[00:02] <tormod> good night
[02:29] <desertc> Greetings -- quick question -- what is happening when I change the gstreamer video plugin settings from Autodetect to "X Window System (No Xv)" ?
[02:30] <desertc> The Autodetect is problematic for me, and I am wondering what is going on behind the scenes when I select that option, instead of X Window System.
[02:31] <desertc> Perhaps it is using Xv ?
[02:47] <pwnguin> highly likely
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #165326 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[Gutsy][kubuntu][ati] horizontally fuzzy screen with a ATI Technologies Inc RS200/RS200M AGP Bridge [IGP 340M] (rev 02)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165326
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #149710 in displayconfig-gtk (main) "You need to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22.13-generic" but no available on update-manager (dup-of: 149661)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149710
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #145279 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (universe) "[gutsy] Unmet dependencies while installing xserver-xorg-video-openchrome" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145279
[15:37] <ScislaC> morningall
[15:37] <ScislaC> with a space even ;)
[17:22] <ScislaC> okay, so I'm going to try building that AtomBios branch of -ati per tormod's request yesterday... are ./configure errors when running autogen to be expected?
[17:24] <ScislaC> it looks like it's taking issue when doing the Checks for extensions (line 20282 is where it dies)
[17:44] <bryce> I don't know much about that branch, but in general there should not be configure errors
[17:44] <ScislaC> hmmm
[17:45] <ScislaC> bryce: is it possible that it relates to what my xserver is currently running (in terms of extensions it has or doesn't have enabled based on what the driver is capable of)? It seems like radeonhd can't do much, so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
[17:45] <ScislaC> it's basically just barfing on the xinerama stuff
[17:51] <bryce> yes, configure does depend on what things you have installed
[17:51] <bryce> generally when making ubuntu packages we build them in a pbuilder or chroot environment 
[18:00] <ScislaC> bryce: I think I should learn more about chroot... I've only ever used it when rescuing a system. But it makes sense for me to try and build in the same fashion that you guys do.
[18:16] <bryce> there's a link with paint-by-numbers directions... lemme dig it up for you
[18:18] <bryce> yeah here we go:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[18:18] <bryce> basically just the "First Steps" and "Rebuilding a package" should be sufficient
[18:19] <bryce> everything after those two sections is advanced tips and tricks
[19:41] <ubotu> New bug: #149924 in mesa (main) "xgl crash" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149924
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #145482 in mesa (main) "[savage] X crashed when running Mathematica 6.0 remotely" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145482
[21:01] <Scisla1> guess who's rockin -ati with a mobility X1400 :D
[21:01] <Scisla1> bryce: woohoo!
[21:02] <Scisla1> doh, evil nick... brb
[21:02] <ScislaC> better...
[21:03] <bryce> \o/  -ati goodness
[21:04] <ScislaC> oh yeah!
[21:07] <tjaalton> nice :)
[21:08] <ScislaC> so, is there a need for me to fill in a modules section in my xorg.conf? or is that all autodetected and used if applicable now?
[21:10] <ScislaC> brb
[21:11] <tjaalton> bryce: btw, we discussed hal/input-hotplug configuration earlier today
[21:12] <bryce> ah great, I'll review backlog
[21:12] <tjaalton> and he had an idea how to make hal configuration; in a runtime script that gathers the needed information from console-setup on ubuntu and "something else" on debian
[21:12] <tjaalton> it was on #ubuntu-installer
[21:13] <tjaalton> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/11/27/%23ubuntu-installer.html
[21:13] <tjaalton> so, there's no need to generate an fdi file
[21:14] <tjaalton> just let hal do it on the fly
[21:14] <bryce> ah thanks for the link
[21:14] <tjaalton> not the file but configuration
[21:15] <bryce> yeah I've got a blueprint task to work on console-setup a bit
[21:18] <ScislaC> well... I guess I was a little too optimistic about getting my blingy desktop back ;)
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #172427 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Uses external DVI port as main screen on iMac G5 rev C - ATI X600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172427
[22:25] <ScislaC> tormod: per your request from yesterday, I tried out the AtomBios -ati driver... works fine on my Mobility X1400
[22:55] <tormod> ScislaC: cool, if you have any issues I am sure they would appreciate your feedback on #radeon
[22:56] <ScislaC> tormod: other than lacking 3d & compositing support (at least for the r500s)... it's shaping up nicely :)
[22:57] <tormod> ScislaC: I think they said 3D for r500 should be doable soon
[22:58] <tormod> cause it has the same 3d core as r300 IIRC
[22:58] <ScislaC> tormod: ahhhh very nice :)
[22:58] <ScislaC> my desktop with an r300 will be happy then too ;)
[23:00] <tormod> it's already happy now, right?
[23:00] <ScislaC> tormod: the 3d support for my r300?
[23:01] <tormod> yes
[23:01] <ScislaC> yeah, my r300 is pretty happy (I'm just looking forward to any minor improvements)
[23:56] <ScislaC> I had to go back to Gutsy's xorg for the time being. :(  I'll try hardy's again when I can get better support for my card.