[00:00] <Tone> What's that, and where is that?
[00:00] <Chewy954> in BMPx
[00:00] <Chewy954> not sure what it is
[00:00] <Chewy954> a error when i attempt to play a song
[00:00] <Mark761966> What's "hot babe"?
[00:00] <corinth> How do I set up my printer (connected to my ubuntu box) to receive prints from a windows machine on my home network?
[00:01] <stefg> !cups | corinth
[00:01] <ubotu> corinth: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[00:01] <stefg> !samba | corinth
[00:01] <ubotu> corinth: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[00:01] <andril> hello all again :)
[00:01] <stefg> corinth: the samba factoid is the right one,
[00:01] <corinth> Thanks
[00:02] <Bruno_> i need help with scp
[00:02] <andril> does anyone know why some GTK themes do not cover the Synaptics app
[00:02] <genii> clay__: Perhaps look at http://www.pulseaudio.org/browser/trunk/src/pulse/client.conf.in
[00:02] <corinth> Also, I installed kubuntu using apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. How do I remove it and all the packages it brought?
[00:02] <Condoulo> I need some help with xorg on 7.04. I can't change my refresh rate.
[00:02] <stefg> corinth: although if you just need printing (not filesharing) you can as well look at cps and use IPP printing from windows
[00:03] <clay__> genii actually it  works just having an empty file.  it was just complaining that it wasn't there.  it's fine to have everything commented out. :)
[00:03] <LambeD> andril: I think its because synaptic is always a root app so you need to enable the theme in root also
[00:03] <Bruno_> can someone help me with scp?
[00:03] <genii>  clay__:as the link indicates the default is pretty sparse
[00:04] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : what's up
[00:04] <Orion1357> Quick question.  Can the latest (Gutsy) version of Unbuntu read _and_ write to and from NTFS partitions, or do I need to create a FAT32 partition to share files?
[00:04] <Chewy954> yay
[00:04] <LambeD> andril, so copy the theme files in your home folder to the root theme folder
[00:04] <Chewy954> got BMPx working
[00:04] <andril> Lambel: sos I need to add the permission to the themes? only few work properly - thanks
[00:04] <Condoulo> I need some help with xorg on 7.04. I can't change my refresh rate. at all, and its really annoying me.
[00:05] <sFEARs> hello
[00:05] <Jimdb> condoulo:  the refresh rate is specific to the monitor.  check the display properties and select the correct monitor for your display.
[00:05] <genii> Orion1357: Yes, write support builtin. Although if it wasn't a fat32 partition still would be inelegant compared to ext3 partition and windows ext3 driver as a solution
[00:05] <Tone> My printer is acting strange, also. I tell it to print, it says that it is, but I'm looking right at it, and it's not.
[00:05] <TiJay> Hi
[00:05] <Bruno_> georgy_28: when i try to copy from the remote computer to my computer y get asked my password, i type it, and it doesnt work
[00:05] <stefg> Orion1357: gutsy has r/w support for ntfs, but you're better off using a  ext3 driver for windows. ntfs is slow in Linux and there's no filechecker
[00:05] <Condoulo> Jimdb- That option is not available in 7.04.
[00:05] <genii> stefg: Good point btw
[00:06] <LambeD> andril, just copy the files in your home theme folder to the root theme folder.. that should work
[00:06] <TiJay> I need help please. After reboot my fonts got all crooked up
[00:06] <TiJay> I don't know what exactly happened
[00:06] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : do you do scp -r file user@IP_machine:/file/destination ?
[00:07] <TiJay> before reboot - http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1668/screenshot1copyyb5.png
[00:07] <Orion1357> Is that the Ext2 or Ext3?
[00:07] <TiJay> after reboot  - http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9871/screenshotzz1.png
[00:07] <Bruno_> georgy_28: i do scp remote-file localuser@ip:local-path
[00:07] <Aledon6> I have a question about terminal commands
[00:07] <Aledon6> What does this do?
[00:07] <Aledon6> sudo apt-get install ms-sys
[00:07] <Aledon6> sudo ms-sys -m /dev/sda
[00:08] <Aledon6> Does it remove the GRUB entry in MBR and replace it with Vista's NTLDR?
[00:08] <Borked|Raider> Anyone that can help me make a little #!/bin/sh script.  It need to create a folder at a given path if it not exist. then move/rename a file and put it in the folder.
[00:08] <Bruno_> Aledon6: that will install the package ms-sys
[00:08] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : localuser is a user of the remote machine ?
[00:08] <genii> Orion1357: technically the windows ext driver is ext2, but it will also access ext3
[00:08] <Orion1357> Well, lets put it this way.  Windows will start out as my primary operating system, but I'll let ubuntu go as far as it will take me.  So where is the best place to put files that are going to be shared between the two operating systems?
[00:08] <stefg> !info ms.sys
[00:08] <ubotu> Package ms.sys does not exist in gutsy
[00:08] <stefg> !info ms-sys
[00:08] <ubotu> ms-sys: Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[00:08] <Bruno_> georgy_28: no, it is my user account in my computer
[00:08] <Aledon6> thanks
[00:09] <Aledon6> But is that what it would do? Would it possibly do any damage to windows?
[00:09] <Jimdb> condoulo:  you must choose the correct driver for your display or choose a generic display of a set resolution/colordepth/refresh.  and yes it has been in ubuntu for a long long time.
[00:09] <georgy_28> Bruno_,  you need to connect with a user from the remote machine
[00:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Orion1357: a separate fat32 partition would be best (if you don't plan on having any files larger than 4gb)
[00:09] <pike_> Orion1357: really linux is able to read/write ntfs so you may just use your windows partition. otherwise the classic thing to to was to create a shared partition as fat32
[00:09] <youaredoome0> I have a problem on Ubuntu server
[00:10] <youaredoome0> i can't type into the password field on ubuntu server
[00:10] <Bruno_> so, in an ssh session on the reomote machine i would type: scp remote-file remoteuser@remote-ip:path-on-lacal-machine ?
[00:10] <stefg> Aledon6: it tries to restore a windows mbr (in case you want to get rid of grub's mbr). it might damage Vista (DRM issue)
[00:10] <airtonix> hi need help getting ati9600 rv350 in bigdesktop mode with gutsy
[00:10] <Aledon6> DRM issue?
[00:10] <Chewy954> guys
[00:10] <Orion1357> Okay.  Thanks.  I'll have to give it some thought.  Don't think I have any 4GB files, but I guess I should check.
[00:10] <georgy_28> Bruneso_, : y
[00:10] <kitche> youaredoome0 are you sure it doesn't echo back to you
[00:10] <Chewy954> is there a way to keybind in xchat?
[00:10] <Chewy954> so say F3 does
[00:10]  * Chewy954 is now playing ::[ Soundtrack | Don Omar Feat. Tego Calderon - The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift - Bandaleros | 05:07 | 165kbps | 44.1KHz ]::
[00:10] <youaredoome0> echo what?
[00:10] <Chewy954> /bmp
[00:10] <Chewy954> ?
[00:10] <Bruno_> georgy_28:so, in an ssh session on the reomote machine i would type: scp remote-file remoteuser@remote-ip:path-on-lacal-machine ?
[00:11] <kitche> youaredoome0: it doesn't show any **** or anything it just looks like Password:
[00:11] <Aledon6> stefg: DRM issue?
[00:11] <Borked|Raider> Anyone that can help me make a little #!/bin/sh script.  It need to create a folder at a given path if it not exist. then move/rename a file and put it in the folder.  Its the if not exist thing i dont know how to do
[00:12] <airtonix> hi need help getting ati9600 rv350 in bigdesktop mode with gutsy
[00:12] <l00st> u know what to do if Ubuntu goes to command promp at start?
[00:12] <Aledon6> What is a DRM issue?
[00:13] <stefg> Aledon6: vista is pretty anal about which code it accepts as a valid bootcode.... but i don't know much about that, just that vistas mbr has changed for some cases, and i don't know if ms-sys reflects that change
[00:13] <youaredoome0> kitche: yes, when i press keys nothing happens
[00:13] <georgy_28> Bruno_, :scp remote-file localuser@local-ip:path-on-lacal-machine ?
[00:13] <Bruno_> georgy_28: but local user is a diferent user than the one on remote machine
[00:13] <Aledon6> stefg: is there a command like what i posted earlier, except it would work for vista?
[00:14] <kitche> youaredoome0: just press enter when you get done entering your password and you should log on to a prompt
[00:14] <pyrak> how do i get drivers for my laptop's card reader?
[00:14] <youaredoome0> ok
[00:14] <youaredoome0> i will try
[00:14] <l00st> u know what to do if Ubuntu goes to command promp at start?
[00:14] <stefg> Aledon6: I don't know about vista (and couldn't care less)
[00:14] <Hilikus> is there a way to use ms messenger as a server notification mean? using like a text-based daemon or something
[00:14] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : what you wanna do ?
[00:14] <Aledon6> Well vista is what i have
[00:15] <airtonix> Hilikus: use jabber
[00:15] <Bruno_> georgy_28: copy a file from a remote computer tu my own
[00:15] <airtonix> Hilikus: using msn for the like of server to server communications is laughable
[00:15] <Hilikus> airtonix server to server? pff
[00:16] <airtonix> Hilikus: especially since all msn traffice is routed first to central msn servers
[00:16] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : are you connected on the remote machine ?
[00:16] <B1gT1me> Hmm,weird (#Obama)
[00:16] <Bruno_> georgy_28: yeah, on an ssh session
[00:16] <airtonix> using msn is plain laughable
[00:16] <Jimdb> i think he wants to send alerts to workstations from the server
[00:16] <godzirra> My wife is so great.  I suggested she try out Macromedia Fireworks for easy photo editing.  Her response was "Don't get me confused.  I like GIMP."
[00:17] <stefg> lol
[00:17] <l00st> ?
[00:17] <airtonix> yeah jabber is a eXentisble Messaging & Presence Protocol
[00:17] <georgy_28> Bruno : then: scp -r remote-file localuser@local_ip:/path/to/localdestination
[00:17] <airtonix> it has load balancing, ie can cluster with other jabber servers
[00:17] <Bruno_> georgy_28: ok thanks
[00:17] <airtonix> ie ones you make or ones others  have made
[00:18] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : np
[00:18] <Aledon6> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624118
[00:18] <Borked|Raider> what is a file with #!/bin/sh called etc if i want to look some info up at google, not sure what to search for. a shell script?
[00:19] <shaun_> hey
[00:19] <shaun_> how can i get man pages for ubuntu
[00:19] <pike_> Borked|Raider: yes that first line is a shebang
[00:19] <Condoulo> I still can't change my Refresh Rate!
[00:19] <shaun_> the full set of man pages
[00:19] <airtonix> Borked|Raider: they are called bash scripts
[00:19] <Condoulo> And FYI, I am on 7.04, NOT 7.10
[00:19] <youaredoome0> i booted ubuntu server and i got just bash, is there a gui?
[00:19] <airtonix> youaredoome: no
[00:19] <airtonix> youaredoome: its CLI only
[00:19] <georgy_28> youaredoome0, : server = nogui
[00:19] <kitche> youaredoome): yes do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome
[00:20] <Condoulo> Can somebody please help me with my refresh rate problem?
[00:20] <Bruno_> georgy_28: ok the problem now is that i doesnt let me. When it asks for local-user's passwd, i give it and it comes back with permission denied
[00:20] <pyrak> anyone know where i can get support for my laptop's card reader?
[00:20] <Hagg1> Hello, can anyone help me with a locale-problem? I have a bunch of files with swedish letters (åäö) that is shown as questionarks instead of the correct character. I tryed to make a conversion but I ended up with wrong result
[00:20] <stefg> Aledon6: i didn't say it can destroy vista, i just said it has not 100% sucess guaranteed
[00:20] <airtonix> LOL running a UI for a server.....and then running GNOME at that
[00:20] <Hilikus> airtonix jabber doesnt work with msn messenger
[00:20] <mrtubby> Does anyone know if there is a package/method out there that allows you to automatically push a change to a config file out to other similar boxes on the network
[00:20] <airtonix> you want a gui for a server, you should be running xfce at the most
[00:20] <Ashfire908> youaredoome0, if you are going to install gui, use xubuntu-desktop.
[00:20] <airtonix> blackbox at the least
[00:20] <Aledon6> uh oh
[00:20] <Hilikus> airtonix and its not CLI
[00:20] <kitche> airtonix: you do know that a lot of servers run gui's
[00:20] <Aledon6> stefg: please read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=624118&page=2
[00:21] <airtonix> Hilikus: that's the point
[00:21] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : localuser is the username  on your localmachine, same login
[00:21] <airtonix> kitche: only for monkeys so they can click point
[00:21] <Bruno_> georgy_28: doesnt work
[00:21] <Ashfire908> you can install sshd and xbase-clients to get x11 forwarding.
[00:21] <alyxander> hey guys anyone know how to auto start the gnome-screen saver in e17
[00:21] <airtonix> Hilikus: yes it is
[00:21] <Bruno_> georgy_28: permission denied
[00:21] <Condoulo> Can somebody please help me with my refresh rate problem? I tried editing xorg many times, but no success.
[00:21] <youaredoome0> is there a gui package i can install or do i have to install a different version of ubuntu?
[00:21] <airtonix> Hilikus: jabber is a protocol
[00:21] <choudesh> what is the application that lets you run a X session inside of another X session?
[00:21] <ctp> hi folks. anyone here running marvell network chipset on a gusty box?
[00:21] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : with wich name you are logged to your machine
[00:21] <Ashfire908> youaredoome0, install xubuntu-desktop
[00:21] <airtonix> Hilikus: where as msn is a protocol and a program
[00:22] <kitche> aortpmox" hmm I run a gui even though I do a lot of work on the command line
[00:22] <matt___> what can i format my hard disk (data disk) with in kubuntu?
[00:22] <Hilikus> airtonix i just want a CLI msn client
[00:22] <kitche> airtonix*
[00:22] <alyxander> matt_ qtparted
[00:22] <matt___> alyxander: installable via apt-get ?
[00:22] <Bruno_> georgy_28: my username is bruno, the remote username (the one in the ssh session) is compartido
[00:22] <airtonix> Hilikus: sudo apt-cache search chat | grep msn
[00:22] <Hilikus> airtonix that lets me do somethil like msn-message user@hotmail.com hello
[00:22] <Aledon6> Help!!
[00:22] <Aledon6> E: Couldn't find package ms-sys
[00:22] <airtonix> you gonna have to write a script for that
[00:22] <Ashfire908> youaredoome0, that gets you xubuntu, which is very light on resourses comparted to other guis
[00:22] <stefg> matt___: real men use 'sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/<yourpartition>
[00:22] <kitche> Hilikus: tmsnc or connect to bitlbee from your irc client and use that if you wish
[00:22] <Borked|Raider> thx airtonix
[00:23] <alyxander> matt_ http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/ and im not sure
[00:23] <Condoulo> bah
[00:23] <Hilikus> airtonix i dont mind writing the script
[00:23] <matt___> stefg: alrighty, i was hoping that there was a terminal command!
[00:23] <ctp> have many trouble with a marvell nic. any suggestions which pci-e gigabit nic to buy? which chipsets run fine under gutsy?
[00:23] <georgy_28> Bruno_,  : scp remote-file bruno@ip_localmachine:/destination
[00:23] <pike_> matt___: real men also make really sure of which partition they are formatting
[00:23] <matt___> alyxander: mkfs=make filesystem? -t.... what does -t do?
[00:23] <airtonix> well then its going to involve the use of apache, curl, php and possibly running your own jabber server
[00:23] <Aledon6> How do i get ms-sys ??
[00:23] <stefg> !info ms-sys | Aledon6
[00:23] <ubotu> aledon6: ms-sys: Write a Microsoft compatible boot record. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1 (gutsy), package size 19 kB, installed size 128 kB
[00:23] <matt___> pike_: ahhh, i already know its /dev/sdb1
[00:23] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, uh that doesn't help. you have to give us the error and the context in which the error happened. Short version: what happened?
[00:23] <matt___> pike_: but good thought nevertheless
[00:24] <alyxander> matt_ dunno but qtparted is avaliable via apt get
[00:24] <airtonix> hi need help getting ati9600 rv350 in bigdesktop mode with gutsy
[00:24] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: ...
[00:24] <matt___> stefg: what does the -t do
[00:24] <Aledon6> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install ms-sys
[00:24] <stefg> Aledon6: it's in universe. i don't know if universe is enabled on the Live session
[00:24] <airtonix> all I get is clone mode
[00:24] <Aledon6> Reading package lists... Done
[00:24] <Aledon6> Building dependency tree
[00:24] <matt___> alyxander: sorry, wrong name ;)
[00:24] <Aledon6> Reading state information... Done
[00:24] <Aledon6> E: Couldn't find package ms-sys
[00:24] <Aledon6> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[00:24] <kitche> shaun_: sudo apt-get install manpages should do what you want
[00:24] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, stop pasting
[00:24] <Bruno_> georgy_28: passwords coma back with incorect passwd, permission denied
[00:24] <choudesh> !pastebin | Aledon6
[00:24] <ubotu> Aledon6: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:25] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, run sudo apt-get update
[00:25] <stefg> matt___: specify the filesystem type ... -t ext3 or -t reiserfs or -t xfs .... whatever you want to use
[00:25] <matt___> stefg: sounds good, thanks!
[00:25] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, and make sure the universe repositrys are installed.
[00:25] <Condoulo> Can somebody please help me with my refresh rate problem? I tried editing xorg many times, but no success.
[00:25] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: What are those?
[00:25] <Hagg1> Can anyone point me in the right direction? I have uploaded some files via SFTP from Windows and when I look at the files in Ubuntu the swedish characters are shown as black questionmarks.
[00:26] <Aledon6> Where can I get universe repositrys ?
[00:26] <stefg> !fixres | Condoulo
[00:26] <ubotu> Condoulo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:26] <Condoulo> thank you! Finally.
[00:26] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : sorry, this must work, I do it every day
[00:26] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, do yuo understand how apt gets stuff?
[00:26] <Aledon6> Nope
[00:26] <Aledon6> I'm a newb
[00:26] <stefg> Aledon6: how about turning to ##windows and ask the win-wizzards how to simply restore a vista mbr ?
[00:27] <Aledon6> stefg: unhelpful
[00:27] <airtonix> Hilikus: centericq - A text-mode multi-protocol instant messenger client
[00:27] <imbecile> im having a convo with a friend right now. can anyone tell me the diff between root in ubuntu and other *nix systems?
[00:27] <Aledon6> Where is synaptics?
[00:27] <mrtubby> Does anyone know if there is a package/method out there that allows you to automatically push a change to a config file out to other similar boxes on the network
[00:27] <airtonix> Aledon6: in your main menu
[00:28] <stefg> !repos | Aledon6
[00:28] <ubotu> Aledon6: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[00:28] <Bruno_> georgy_28: has it got something to do with user account permissions? i tryied both the remote password and my password and it doesnt work
[00:28] <Hilikus> kitche tmsnc doesnt let you send a message directly from the console, you have to use a tex-based interace
[00:28] <Hilikus> airtonix ill try that one
[00:28] <airtonix> system _> admin -> synaptics package manager
[00:28] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, it accesses a remote server (which the palces are set by a comfig file) and downloads a list of available programs. then it stores that list. when you ask of a package, it looks for it in it's list, then download it from the reposiory.
[00:28] <Aledon6> How do I enable all the repositiories?
[00:28] <astro76> !sudo | imbecile
[00:28] <ubotu> imbecile: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:28] <mrtubby> imbecile: Ubuntu has root disabled by default, everything is done via sudo
[00:28] <kitche> imbecile: easy root is locked in ubuntu but it's the same thing really
[00:28] <youaredoome0> /name your mom
[00:28] <georgy_28> Brto stay when uno_, : don't know, it's hard
[00:28] <kitche> Hilikus: so your saying like a FIFO msn client never heard of one
[00:29] <Aledon6> youaredoome0: It's /nick
[00:29] <detlou> mrtubby: rsync is a start, it syncs files across the network
[00:29] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, should be a program in system -> admin > manage sources?
[00:29] <imbecile> thanks guys
[00:29] <airtonix> kitche: Hilikus: you are describing the jabber protocol
[00:29] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: ?
[00:29] <georgy_28> Bruno_, : it's hard to say, when you are miles away from a machine ;)
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[00:29] <Hilikus> kitche just a script or something where in a script i can tell it to send a message to me, you see how programs use "mail" to notify you of stuff, i want to use msn
[00:29] <Aledon6> Augh... spambots
[00:29] <shaun_> i have man pages
[00:30] <Bruno_> georgy_28: well, this is rather silly, but im testing it on my own coputer from two diferent user sccounts
[00:30] <Ashfire908> LjL: too slowwww... :P
[00:30] <shaun_> :/
[00:30] <airtonix> hi need help getting ati9600 rv350 in bigdesktop mode with gutsy
[00:30] <Ashfire908> aledon6: just first run sudo apt-get update
[00:30] <Hilikus> airtonix am i? but that protocol doesnt seem compatible with msn, and msn is the only IM client i have everywhere
[00:31] <georgy_28> Bruno_: stupid question, but do you have a ssh server installed on you machine ?
[00:31] <airtonix> Hilikus: you don't know what jabber is then
[00:31] <airtonix> !jabber | Hilikus
[00:31] <ubotu> Hilikus: jabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Gaim (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org
[00:31] <Bruno_> georgy_28: yes
[00:31] <civiXier> hi all. is there a linux distro without the gui that is still user friendly to install?
[00:31] <Ashfire908> aledon6: then that command you did before
[00:31] <airtonix> !gaim | Hilikus
[00:31] <ubotu> Hilikus: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[00:31] <Hilikus> airtonix from what i read is an open source protocol
[00:31] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:31] <Aledon6> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[00:31] <Leonord> hey. how cand i get the mouse in the console ?
[00:32] <Aledon6> Not working
[00:32] <kitche> airtonix" MSn doesn't work with jabber really but anyways it's not even called jabber anymore
[00:32] <airtonix> a jabber server can actually communicate with a msn server
[00:32] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, close synaptic
[00:32] <Leonord> the pointer that is
[00:32] <mrtubby> detlou: thanks, but more to the point I am looking for a way to centrally manage a lab of ubuntu boxes, i suppose rsync to sync up a script and a cron job on that script to perform whatever maintenance i wanted?
[00:32] <Aledon6> hehe oops :P
[00:32] <civiXier> without any gui i mean
[00:32] <georgy_28> Bruno : so it was a stupid question. Sorry, I don't know how to help you further. Maybe somebody else in this chan
[00:32] <airtonix> kitche: jabber is still called jabber...i don't know what your referring to
[00:32] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, btw please don't post multi-line errors/mesages in here.
[00:32] <kitche> aortonix: it's called XMPP look it up
[00:32] <airtonix> its always been called both
[00:33] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: Still getting E: Couldn't find package ms-sys
[00:33] <Smaroo> hello
[00:33] <Smaroo> hello
[00:33] <airtonix> that didn't have right info
[00:33] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, btw please don't post multi-line errors/mesages in here.
[00:33] <Ashfire908> oops
[00:33] <Ashfire908> Smaroo, yes?
[00:33] <Ashfire908> Smaroo, yes?
[00:33] <Hilikus> airtonix so what i need is a jabber server? so my script talks to the server and the server translates it and sends it to an msn server?
[00:33] <airtonix> a jabber server is a multi-protocol protocol
[00:33] <airtonix> server
[00:33] <airtonix> ...
[00:33] <airtonix> get it?
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908: !enter
[00:33] <airtonix> yep
[00:34] <Smaroo> myah
[00:34] <Smaroo> myah
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[00:34] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:34] <airtonix> it will "middle man' it all for you
[00:34] <Smaroo> myah=root.php/lol
[00:34] <Hilikus> airtonix cool
[00:34] <zloog420> Does amule crash for anyone else?
[00:34] <airtonix> and not just for msn either
[00:34] <Jimdb> civiXier:  the alternative installer iso from ubuntu is what you need.
[00:34] <Ashfire908> Jack_Sparrow, you have no sense of humor
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Ashfire908: NOne at all actually
[00:34] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, hm..
[00:34] <airtonix> hi need help getting ati9600 rv350 in bigdesktop mode with gutsy
[00:35] <kitche> airtonix: hmm my jabber can't talk to my msn at all maybe you can show me how it's done but anyways I m gonan call it XMPP since the foundation isn't even called Jabber Software Foundation anymore
[00:35] <civiXier> jimdb thanx m8 :D
[00:35] <Hilikus> sendxmpp - commandline XMPP (jabber) utility
[00:35] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: "Open synaptics and enable all the repositories" how do i do that?
[00:35] <Hilikus> that sounds good
[00:35] <pyrak> how do i get support for my compy's card reader?
[00:36] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, sorry i'm not on ubuntu atm
[00:36] <airtonix> kitche: your 'jabber' refine please,... you mean gaim or ejabberd?
[00:36] <caligarn1037> does anybody know how to get nokia pc suite working on wine?
[00:36] <Jimdb> civiXier:  it is ubuntu but it is a text based installer.  it is used with the wubi project to install ubuntu.
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> pyrak: many of those built in card readers have no linux support.
[00:36] <pike_> pyrak: i think best step first would be to search ubuntuforums like a google search of 'site:ubuntuforums.org laptomodel card reader'
[00:36] <[I> can any help a newbie here?  what's the command to install msi?
[00:36] <kitche> airtonix: hmm I mean jabber if it's a protocol it shouldn't matter what client I use
[00:36] <Jimdb> civiXier:  or rather used by them.
[00:36] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, should be under system -> administration and called something like "manage package sources"
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> What is MSI?
[00:36] <ari_stress> morning2 :D
[00:36] <[I> windows install app
[00:37] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: There's no such thing as that in the menu
[00:37] <stefg> pyrak: first you need to figure out what controller  you have (lspci), then look up the hardware list and/or google if that controller is supported at all
[00:37] <airtonix> kitche: http://www.jabber.org/ (Copyright © 1999 - 2005 by the Jabber Software Foundation)
[00:37] <kitche> Jack_Sparrow depends it's a company and means microsoft software installer or something like that
[00:37] <Hilikus> airtonix i found to server pacakes "jabber" and "ejabberd"
[00:37] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, i meant look for something simmalr to that
[00:37] <Hilikus> two*
[00:37] <airtonix> nur nur nur
[00:37] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: "software sources"?
[00:37] <Fasty> how do you install .msi in wine?
[00:38] <airtonix> kitche: it does matter
[00:38] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, yes
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> kitche: that is why I asked.. people use acronyms and many like microstar int have the same..
[00:38] <detlou> Aledon6: its under the 'Settings' menu pick
[00:38] <civiXier> jimdb okay, but will the graphical part still be installed?
[00:38] <stefg> !server
[00:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[00:38] <kitche> airtonix: your point? xmpp.org is pretty much the same thing
[00:38] <Fasty> now that you've detemined what an msi is.. does anyone konw the command to install it?
[00:39] <Ashfire908> detlou, Aledon6 already found it
[00:39] <Borked|Raider> if [ -f "$chatlog" ] then mv $chatlog $dir`date +%m%d%Y-%H%M`.txt  anyone that can correct this line. if file then mv file to $dir\chat_datetime.txt
[00:39] <Eyal^> ..
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Fasty: Sorry, I dont use or help people with wine or to run IWndows apps under ubuntu
[00:39] <Jimdb> civiXier:  yes.  are you really looking for the server install?
[00:39] <stefg> Borked|Raider: #bash
[00:39] <Fasty> i just to play counter-strike
[00:39] <Aledon6> detlou: where's settings?
[00:39] <Fasty> and load up steam
[00:39] <Borked|Raider> stefg, oki
[00:39] <robdig> Fasty: you might get more help in #winehq
[00:39] <UstasW> Hi
[00:39] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, in one of the tabs there should be a checkbox for the universe repository
[00:39] <Fasty> awe shat, sorry thought that's what i was in
[00:40] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, make sure the box is checked.
[00:41] <Aledon6> Ashfire908: I can't find it
[00:41] <tripppy> can anyone recommend a HD tv tuner working in ubuntu?
[00:42] <pike_> tripppy: the hauppauge are hard to beat
[00:42] <airtonix> jabber: http://www.jabber.org/about/overview.shtml
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tripppy: have you checked our supported hardware list?
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[00:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[00:42] <airtonix> jabber wraps around all other protocols
[00:42] <tripppy> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[00:42] <detlou> Aledon6: the Ubuntu Software tab has a checkbox labelled: Community maintained Open Source Software, check that
[00:42] <Hilikus> airtonix can i use an extenral jabber server or i need to host my own?
[00:42] <airtonix> both
[00:42] <airtonix> or either
[00:43] <tripppy> people like pike_, can help narrow down a brand.
[00:43] <Aledon6> detlou, thanks, it's checked :D
[00:43] <airtonix> wildfire was the quickest and easiest to setup
[00:43] <airtonix> but diriest as required java
[00:43] <pike_> tripppy: if i were building a myth box or MS mediapc id go with hauppauge
[00:43] <Hilikus> airtonix so i dont need access to the server to "patch" it or something ?
[00:43] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone ever use LVE on ubuntu?
[00:43] <airtonix> might
[00:43] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, click save (if there is no save click "ok")
[00:43] <Aledon6> It was just "OK"
[00:43] <Ashfire908> k
[00:44] <airtonix> Hilikus: you may do, bee along time since I did it....and I was surrournded by msn alcoytes
[00:44] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, run sudo apt-get update
[00:44] <Aledon6> Just about to ask that :p
[00:44] <Undead_Zeu1> what is a good C++ IDE for Ubuntu?
[00:44] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, then try getting that program again
[00:44] <airtonix> Hilikus: my only interaction with jabber latley has been using googletalk
[00:44] <pavs> I am looking for an IDS named snare according to the snare website it should be in the repo, but when i type 'snare' on the console it doesnt suggest me any alternate name. How can i look it up in the repo?
[00:44] <airtonix> Hilikus: which is just jabber
[00:44] <usser> Undead_Zeu1, Kdevelop is pretty cool
[00:44] <pike_> Undead_Zeu1: kdevelop is popular or just vim
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !snare
[00:44] <Undead_Zeu1> usser,pike_:Thanks, I'll check it out =)
[00:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snare - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:45] <bazhang> pavs: apt-cache search packagename
[00:45] <Aledon6> IT WORKED! :d
[00:45] <airtonix> the jabber protocol hasn't been utilised to its maximum potential...you could for example have many drupal websites autoamting each other
[00:45] <Aledon6> * :D
[00:45] <Ashfire908> Aledon6, good :)
[00:46] <pavs> bazhang thanks I just looked it up i guess they dont have it
[00:46] <Hilikus> airtonix are there public servers that would fwd messages to the msn network? i dont want to host a server just for my ocassional use
[00:46] <airtonix> Hilikus: http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/index.jsp
[00:46] <Aledon6> Well wish me luck, here I go!
[00:46] <airtonix> yes there is
[00:47] <airtonix> http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml
[00:47] <airtonix> woops
[00:47] <airtonix> Hilikus: http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml
[00:48] <airtonix> Hilikus: that cmd prog you found seems a sweet idea
[00:48] <airtonix> you could use that to have your server msg you about load time or what ever
[00:48] <Hilikus> excellent, ill try that
[00:48] <Hilikus> tahnks a lot
[00:48] <airtonix> and since you can use the OTR or other some such encryption routine....
[00:50] <Aledon6> Hurrah!
[00:50] <Aledon6> I'm back in windows!
[00:51] <Aledon6> Thanks all for your help :)
[00:51] <Radi01> Now go back to ubuntu.
[00:51] <Aledon6> hehe
[00:51] <Radi01> j/k.
[00:51] <Aledon6> Actually I'm gonna try out gentoo next
[00:51] <airtonix> msn : no load balancing, min $5k price.....not so good network peformance.
[00:51] <airtonix> jabber: load balancing(and more), free, excellent peformance...
[00:51] <Aledon6> cya
[00:52] <Syncoder> Тут есть руские
[00:52] <airtonix> ironic
[00:52] <tyler_3> how do I browse the web from terminal?
[00:52] <airtonix> lynx
[00:52] <igor47> syncoder: yes, but not ones with russian fonts :)
[00:52] <crimsun> tyler_3: use links, w3m, lynx, etc.
[00:52] <airtonix> tyler_3: or curl
[00:53] <airtonix> has anyone else got bigdesktop going?
[00:53] <draygon> Hello.
[00:53] <draygon> How do I add multiple desktops on Ubuntu? I do not see the option anywhere in the menu.
[00:54] <airtonix> join my question dragon
[00:54] <wayne_> some times you feel like a nut,some times you don't
[00:54] <BaD-Laptop> is there a way to control which devices can/can't go into power saving mode?
[00:54] <draygon> airtonix:  What do you mean?
[00:54] <airtonix> you want bigdesktop
[00:54] <airtonix> what video card do you have?
[00:54] <Zapper2k3_80114> hello
[00:54] <Zapper2k3_80114> good evening
[00:54] <karcus> push alt + ctrl + arrow
[00:55] <airtonix> Draygon: or are you talking about mulitple workspaces?
[00:55] <proqesi> I can no longer pass vga=795 as a grub boot parameter in gutsy to get a higher resolution. what do I do instead?
[00:55] <airtonix> draygon: if you want workspacs(virtualDestktops) then the ctrl+alt+arrows will move you around
[00:56] <Syncoder> помогите установить doom
[00:56] <naelr> Genii:
[00:56] <tyler_3> ok, now using curl to download a file off the interweb would be curl "the location.html"
[00:56] <airtonix> darygon: but if you want to extend your desktop space to another monitor....then
[00:56] <tyler_3> ?
[00:56] <airtonix> tyler_3: no use wget for that
[00:56] <Radi01>  ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ
[00:56] <naelr> genii: I am gonna throw this laptop out the window!!!!!!!
[00:57] <tyler_3> airtonix: ty
[00:57] <airtonix> draygon: open terminal and type this : lspci
[00:57] <draygon> Sorry, I got disconnected
[00:57] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Radi01
[00:57] <ubotu> Radi01: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:57] <Radi01> ok.
[00:57] <draygon> Can someone please tell me how to add multiple desktops, I do not see the option anywhere here.
[00:57] <airtonix> draygon: open terminal and type this : lspci
[00:57] <PriceChild> draygon, see the desktop switcher bottom right?
[00:57] <proqesi> naelr: ok, but first tell me your address so I can catch it
[00:57] <PriceChild> draygon, right click it
[00:58] <draygon> PriceChild, I actually deleted that :(
[00:58] <PriceChild> draygon, oh wait... clarify "desktops"... do you mean workspaces?
[00:58] <draygon> I figured it might have been there
[00:58] <draygon> Yes, workspaces
[00:58] <naelr> proqesi: it won't help I cannot get linux to boot.. i have now tried 3 differnt distros
[00:58] <airtonix> PriceChild: why doesn't my 9600 allow me bigdesktop in gutsy?
[00:58] <igor47> lower management has pretty much broken on this laptop since 7.10 - anyone else have acpi problems in the new version?
[00:58] <PriceChild> draygon, right click an empty space on the panel and choose add to panel
[00:58] <PriceChild> draygon, i'm sure you can figure the rest out without instructions? :)
[00:58] <naelr> Fedora 8, Opensuse 3.whatever and Kubuntu/Ubuntu 32 bit and 64 bit
[00:58] <proqesi> naelr: I couldn't either and then I tried ubuntu server
[00:58] <PriceChild> airtonix, I don't know. I've never owned an ati card.
[00:59] <genii> back
[00:59] <naelr> proqesi: what laptop
[00:59] <airtonix> PriceChild: your not the howto poster on the forums?
[00:59] <proqesi> naelr: thinkpad A21m and an amd 4000xp desktop
[00:59] <genii> naelr: Sorry to hear about throwing it out the window, etc
[00:59] <naelr> I am getting desperate I will try antything...
[00:59] <PriceChild> airtonix, I've never owned an ati card. If I know the answer to a question someone asks in this channel and have the time, I will try to help.
[00:59] <naelr> genii: it is really driving me nuts...
[01:00] <naelr> proqesi: mine is acer 5520
[01:00] <airtonix> PriceChild: ahhh that's right you're the UI person
[01:00] <airtonix> PriceChild: designer....type thing
[01:00] <kahrytan> Does anyone know why Ubuntu keeps printing 'classified' cover pages"
[01:00] <naelr> genii: any other suggestions?
[01:00] <genii> naelr: I forget just exactly what your problem was
[01:00] <PriceChild> airtonix, the only bit of development I've ever done is packaging "gizmod", and one or two bugfixes... nothing else. I have done some documentation, and general helping.
[01:01] <kahrytan> Does anyone know why Ubuntu keeps printing 'classified' cover pages?
[01:01] <genii> usb modem?
[01:01] <naelr> genii: sorry I wasn't thinking how stuipd of me, Acer laptop will install just fine but on reboot end up in busybox
[01:01] <genii> Ah yes that one
[01:01] <naelr> genii: we were trying different things in the modules...
[01:02] <genii> naelr: Sadly I have no new insight on the problem
[01:02] <draygon> Got it PriceChild, thanks :)
[01:02] <kahrytan> Does anyone know why Ubuntu keeps printing 'classified' cover pages?
[01:02] <draygon> Works like a charm now, heh
[01:02] <Traveler8> hey i need some serious help
[01:02] <naelr> genii: I have tried the daily.. same problem.. fedora 8 same problem but no busybox.. and opensuse.. it  will not even let me install it can't find the mouse of the keyboard
[01:02] <Traveler8> will anyone help me
[01:02] <kahrytan> knock knock people
[01:03] <PriceChild> Traveler8, sorry we can't help you.
[01:03] <proqesi> kahrytan: I could tell you, but it's classified
[01:03] <genii> naelr: Well interestingly then ubuntu is still getting the furthest it seems
[01:03] <PriceChild> Traveler8, however if you ask your question... maybe someone could help?
[01:03] <Traveler8> i am duel booting with windows vista, and when i try to start ubuntu it gives me an errror message that says tty job can't start
[01:03] <robdig> kahrytan: look in system->administration->printers
[01:03] <KI4IKL|Laptop> What is the command to disable xserver-xgl?
[01:03] <Traveler8> and something else about busy box
[01:03] <Ry-Fi> hey guys, does anyone have a chance to answer a quick question about tovid...its mostly about the mount point of my external dvd burner
[01:03] <robdig> kahrytan: on the policy tab, you can select the cover sheet
[01:03] <naelr> genii: yea no doubt... stock debian.. couldn't find any networks cards so I couldn't install that from the net... what is the difference that the cd will boot but not the hard drive...
[01:04] <kahrytan> rob,  Printers isnt in Admin
[01:04] <olsn> hey
[01:04] <Heygab1> Anybody know how to force a user to logout from the command line.
[01:04] <robdig> kahrytan: ok, it says Printing
[01:04] <Heygab1> ?
[01:04] <airtonix> KI4IKL|Laptop: have you tried disabling via appearnce gui first?
[01:04] <kahrytan> rodserling,  and there isnt a policy tab and anything related in to cover sheets there
[01:04] <Ry-Fi> right now tovid is set to burn to /dev/dvdrw, but i dont believe that is the external burner, how do i find out the location of the external burner to i can add that location instead of "/dev/dvdrw"
[01:04] <igor47> Heygab1: if you're root, you can kill his shell
[01:05] <sfears> Ry-Fi lspci?
[01:05] <Traveler8> i am new to this linux stuff and when i start ubuntu from my duel booting pc that has vista as primary i get a error message about busybox and something about how tty can't start
[01:05] <KI4IKL|Laptop> airtonix: no there is a file you create that disables it i'm not talking about compiz and special effects, i'm talking about xserver-xgl
[01:05] <Heygab1> Igor: I'm not root. Can I do that with sudo?
[01:05] <kahrytan> robdig, ,  and there isnt a policy tab and anything related in to cover sheets there
[01:05] <igor47> Heygab1: yeah - same thing for all intents and purposes
[01:05] <robdig> kahrytan: what version of ubuntu are you using
[01:05] <kahrytan> robdig,  gutsy
[01:05] <Traveler8> 7.4
[01:05] <airtonix> KI4IKL|Laptop: another xserver session?
[01:05] <Heygab1> Igor, how?
[01:06] <airtonix> Heygab1: doesn't sound like you should be allowed to do that
[01:06] <robdig> kahrytan: that's what i have, and that's where it is
[01:06] <Ry-Fi> lspci gave me nothing about disk drives
[01:06] <sfears> just an idea
[01:06] <Traveler8> does anyone have the answer or williness to help me?
[01:06] <Taggard> Does anyone know a good tutorial to run 7.10 on a Mac?
[01:06] <kahrytan> robdig, Policies has banners set to NONE
[01:06] <Heygab1> I want to kill a bunch of other me's. One on tty7. One on Pts/1
[01:06] <sfears> the answer Traveler8 is 42
[01:06] <dannybuntu_> hello all! can anyone walk me through installing my epson c90 printer?
[01:06] <sfears> at least so i've been told
[01:06] <kahrytan> robdig, and it still prints cover page
[01:06] <Taggard> !KAC
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <Taggard> !mac
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Traveler8> please i'm new to this and i want to learn
[01:07] <airtonix> Traveler8: you have to find someone who knows about busybox
[01:07] <sfears> learn what?
[01:07] <Traveler8> ok u know anything about busybox anyone?
[01:07] <kahrytan> robdig, i am using hplip
[01:07] <sfears> i do not
[01:07] <Traveler8> pm with info
[01:07] <airtonix> Traveler8: have you googled it ?
[01:07] <robdig> kahrytan: hmm, try changing it to something else, save it, and then change it back to none...if that doesn't work, then it is probably a bug somewhere
[01:07] <Traveler8> yeah won't tell me a thing
[01:08] <Templer> hi there - how come with xubuntu i cannot look at shared folders on the network
[01:08] <l00st> hey i am geting this error
[01:08] <l00st> [17179570.252000] PCI: Can't allocate resource region 7 of brige 0000:00:1c.0
[01:08] <airtonix> Traveler8: sorry I don't know, don't use vista
[01:08] <theunixgeek> Is GNUStep in the repositories?
[01:08] <airtonix> Templer: because you need to instal samba or smbfs
[01:08] <igor47> Heygab1: look at this guide: http://tinyurl.com/3dlkwc
[01:08] <kahrytan> robdig, stil doing it
[01:08] <Templer> ah right
[01:08] <Hoperator> hi
[01:09] <igor47> Heygab1: when you're using 'grep' in step 1, look for pts/7 or whathaveyou
[01:09] <Templer> is that standard with gnome then
[01:09] <kahrytan> robdig,  so it's not policies prefs
[01:09] <airtonix> templar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide?highlight=%28samba%29
[01:09] <robdig> kahrytan: weird. must be a bug somewhere, since mine works, maybe it is in your driver. I'm using a cannon printer
[01:10] <meoblast001> hi
[01:10] <kahrytan> robdig,  and i use hp
[01:10] <airtonix> Templer: I actually recommend using the smbfs way, (might not be called smbfs) which gives you smb access with thunar
[01:10] <meoblast001> i was messing with GNOME themes and now my fonts on my desktop are huge
[01:10] <airtonix> Templer: its very good
[01:10] <meoblast001> how do i fix this
[01:10] <l00st> hey i am geting an error messange
[01:10] <robdig> kahrytan: hp usually works very well
[01:10] <Templer> cheers
[01:10] <airtonix> meoblast001: open the theme manager, and goto fonts
[01:10] <kahrytan> robdig,  so its cups or hplip
[01:11] <Thecks> I wonder if anybody will actually fall for that O.o
[01:11] <sfears> meoblast001: appearance preferences
[01:11] <meoblast001> airtonix: they look right
[01:11] <airtonix> meoblast001: then look for the font dpi setting and change it
[01:11] <meoblast001> but the desktop fonts are too big
[01:11] <htown> how can i format my hd with gparted livecd? when the disc boots it has a lot of options, what's the easiest route
[01:11] <meoblast001> only the desktop
[01:11] <Hoperator> LOL
[01:11] <robdig> kahrytan: that would be my guess
[01:11] <sparky> hello all
[01:11] <htown> i want to totally format everything all my partitions and then install vista and then ubuntu
[01:11] <meoblast001> oh ok
[01:11] <meoblast001> all fixed
[01:11] <meoblast001> thanx
[01:12] <sfears> if that's thanks to me.. yup
[01:12] <sparky> brand new ubuntu user here
[01:12] <LjL> do NOT type the command that that idiot suggested, thank you.
[01:12] <sfears> welcome to frustration sparky
[01:12] <vanchu> Hello
[01:12] <sfears> hi vanchu
[01:12] <draygon> How can I make my workspace spin kind of effect when switching?
[01:13] <vanchu> I'm trying to install mame but I'm having no luck
[01:13] <kahrytan> robdig,  It ignores banners prefs all together. I set it to standard and tried to print
[01:13] <sparky> installed the system last week and just got the net hooked up tonight
[01:13] <peabody> draygon: you mean the cube?
[01:13] <draygon> Yes
[01:13] <peabody> vanchu: how are you trying to install it?
[01:13] <Squalish> Can anyone point me in the direction of a utility that can limit the bandwidth that the ubuntu box is using locally? I'm not looking to do any fancy cross-network gateway/shaping/QoS work, I'm looking to be able to tell applications "Okay, bittorrent client that refuses to implement bandwidth controls, you only get 100Kb/s"i
[01:13] <vanchu> any ideas ?
[01:13] <Silmeria> cant believe i did that
[01:13] <airtonix> draygon: like the compiz expo effect?
[01:13] <kahrytan> Does anyone know why Ubuntu keeps printing 'classified' cover pages?
[01:13] <draygon> I guess so
[01:13] <Heygab1> Igon, Thankee. Worke great.
[01:13] <draygon> How would I do that?
[01:14] <robdig> kahrytan: yup, sounds like a bug...
[01:14] <airtonix> draygon: I think you first need to install the compiz configurator
[01:14] <sparky> does anyone know about the cube effect in ubuntu?
[01:14] <holzmodem> hi, i searching for an simple code editor with project manager and class/function browser?
[01:14] <airtonix> yes
[01:14] <peabody> draygon: Do you have desktop effects working?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> #ubuntu-effects
[01:14] <peabody> vanchu: how are you trying to install mame?
[01:14] <sparky> i do
[01:14] <sfears> not a bug kahrytan.. proally have a preference set in there somewhere
[01:14] <sfears> what program are you printing from?
[01:14] <kahrytan> sfears,   there is no other reference to a cover page
[01:15] <airtonix>  sudo apt-cache search compiz | grep config
[01:15] <dduong> Draygon:  And do you have 7.04 or 7.10 installed?
[01:15] <peabody> holzmodem: Eclipse if you don't mind your dev environment eating your ram for breakfast
[01:15] <draygon> I have the latest
[01:15] <draygon> What do I need to install?
[01:15] <peabody> holzmodem: If you work in C++ I hear KDevelop is nice
[01:15] <airtonix> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:15] <FabioBR> Hi, I 'm having a problem with my new computer. I have a pinnacle pctv 110i and there is no sound of this card. Anyone can help me?
[01:15] <godzirra> How do I get my trackball to let me use the scroll wheel to scroll again?  I r econfigured X and now it doesnt scroll.
[01:15] <joshritger> I am looking for an app to play and find streaming video, basically i don't have tv and I want to find an app that I can use to watch video sorta like joost, but for linux
[01:16] <airtonix> draygon: but don't do that straight awaya
[01:16] <holzmodem> peabody: i need an code edito for php, eclipse, spacialy (pdt) ist to slow on my pc
[01:16] <detlou> josh: miro!
[01:16] <peabody> draygon: desktop effects are part of the default install with gutsy, and feisty (but need to be eneabled in feisty).  What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:16] <airtonix> draygon: first like the guy says....you need to work out if you have it running first...do you have shadows?
[01:16] <sfears> have you checked the sound setting preferences? made sure nothing is on and the correct sound driver is being used.. mabey try OSS if ALSA is selected or vise-versa
[01:16] <sparky> gusty
[01:16] <linxeh> holzmodem: what spec pc ?
[01:16] <joshritger> detlou: I have tried miro in the past and it was very unstable, has it gotten any better?
[01:16] <sfears> correction.. made sure nothing is on mute*
[01:16] <airtonix> ok should be deafult
[01:17] <draygon> I don't know where to start
[01:17] <clay3482> having trouble using ssh in ubuntu 7.10
[01:17] <draygon> What is shadows
[01:17] <airtonix> draygon: it was for me anyway
[01:17] <peabody> holzmodem: don't know about a class browser, most people I know either use vim or emacs for php work.
[01:17] <l00st> hey i am geting ths message [17179570.252000] PCI: Can't allocate resource region 7 of brige 0000:00:1c.0
[01:17] <airtonix>  clay3482: tell us more
[01:17] <dduong> draygon:  to make it easier, what kind of video card do you have
[01:17] <FabioBR> sfears: Nothing is mute!
[01:17] <holzmodem> linxeh:  celeron M 1.4ghz
[01:17] <airtonix> draygon: like drop shadows under the windows
[01:17] <draygon> I am not too sure
[01:17] <linxeh> holzmodem: hmm, how much ram ?
[01:17] <draygon> How do I find out?
[01:17] <sfears> FabioBR: do you have the correct sound driver selected?
[01:17] <sfears> OSS, ALSA, etc...
[01:18] <airtonix> draygon: you should be able to see them .try this :
[01:18] <holzmodem> linxeh: 512
[01:18] <FabioBR> sfears: Yes, the sound problem is only with tv card, the sounds for other applications are fine
[01:18] <detlou> Josh: miro & democracy before that has always been stable on my ubuntu laptop
[01:18] <airtonix> draygon: system - > prefs -> appearance
[01:18] <Squalish> joshritger: it's still clunky, but it's worked out most of its specific bugs. Just don't ask it to process 1megabit/second bittorrent transfers and expect it to play videos at the same time. I use it all the time, most conveniant way to watch videos
[01:18] <clay3482> I Type ssh -Y -l dad 192.168.1.5 from my laptop and I can not connect to my Desktop - I need to run Nautilus remotely on it (actually about 5 feet away in my living room)
[01:18] <vanchu> anyone know anything about installing mame on ubuntu?? or some where other than google where I might find help ?
[01:18] <linxeh> holzmodem: hmm, probably not enough :( eclipse is a bit of a RAM hog. I use it with 2GB and still have issues sometimes (but then I'm doing fairly big stuff with it)
[01:18] <airtonix> draygon: you got a visual effects tab?
[01:18] <kahrytan>  Ubuntu can't print to a Officejet 5510. darn bugs
[01:18] <draygon> yep
[01:19] <mark2> vanchu search SDLMAME for Ubuntu in Google
[01:19] <sfears> you proally don't have the correct drivers for the TV card.
[01:19] <joshritger> ok, thanks, I will give the newest version a try
[01:19] <holzmodem> peabody: the classbrowser is just a wish, the one thing i really need is a project management
[01:19] <linxeh> clay3482: did you install openssh-server on the Desktop?
[01:19] <airtonix> draygon: how many options in that tab>?
[01:19] <draygon> 3
[01:19] <vanchu> mark2, thanks
[01:19] <MasterWitt> I have a question. How do I change the default web player thats in Firefox? The Totem player is not working for my Firefox and I wanna know if there is alternative that works?
[01:19] <bazhang> joshritger: miro is the one
[01:19] <clay3482> I had the ssh working 3 days ago so I assume I did
[01:19] <mark2> vanchu np
[01:19] <peabody> holzmodem: What do you mean by "project management?"
[01:19] <joshritger> ok
[01:19] <draygon> airtonix, I have three options
[01:19] <peabody> MasterWitt: mplayerplugin
[01:19] <airtonix> clay3482:  what happens when you try to use ssh in terminal?
[01:20] <l00st> hey i am geting ths message [17179570.252000] PCI: Can't allocate resource region 7 of brige 0000:00:1c.0
[01:20] <Squalish> Can anyone point me in the direction of a utility that can limit the bandwidth that the ubuntu box is using locally? I'm not looking to do any fancy cross-network gateway/shaping/QoS work, I'm looking to be able to tell applications "Okay, Miro bittorrent backend that refuses to implement bandwidth controls, you only get 100Kb/s." I'm in a multiuser network, and looking to play nice with others instead of saturating my connection
[01:20] <airtonix> draygon: ok you need to install the congiuratoir
[01:20] <MasterWitt> peobody: Ahh ok, lemme look into that real quick
[01:20] <sfears> when do you get that error l00st?
[01:20] <clay3482> I did this exact smae thing and created a little script so that i could run it from my laptop but now no matter what i do it does not connect - i have try a reboot
[01:20] <peabody> holzmodem: project management is a catch all phrase, what are you looking for specifically?
[01:20] <l00st> at start up
[01:20] <holzmodem> peabody: just like eclipse, you create a project to group all fiels you need
[01:20] <airtonix> Squalish: trickle for specific progs, you prefix the command with trickle....wondershaper for the whole machine...or squid for a subnet
[01:20] <draygon> airtonix,  What do I type?
[01:20] <clay3482> using ssh in terminal i never connect
[01:20] <airtonix> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:20] <Squalish> thx airtonix
[01:21] <Squalish> will investigate
[01:21] <airtonix> Squalish: I use squid
[01:21] <airtonix> Squalish: is the roxors
[01:21] <vanchu> klol how do I find out wich version of ubuntu I have
[01:21] <vanchu> lol
[01:21] <peabody> holzmodem: I'm no expert.  Most people use tags files when using vim or emacs.  Tags files informally group a set of source files and allow quick and easy navigation for symbol definitions
[01:21] <sfears> l00st.. type "sudo lspci" at a prompt and see what is using the address 0000:00:1c.0
[01:21] <clay3482> do i need to do something on the desktop so that it is looking for a ssh connection?
[01:21] <jrib> !version > vanchu (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:21] <draygon> OK, thanks.
[01:21] <bazhang> vanchu: lsb_release -a in a terminal
[01:21] <airtonix> uname -a
[01:21] <vanchu> thanks
[01:21] <draygon> When that is done what do I do next?
[01:22] <jrib> clay3482: "looking"? as in trying to ssh to another computer?
[01:22] <draygon> It's done now
[01:22] <MasterWitt> peabody: Alright I found that and now installing it. Then will that automatically become my new default player?
[01:22] <olsn> hi , got a problem when i instaled ubuntu .. got error Wrong loading Operating System or something
[01:22] <kahrytan> Does anyone know why Ubuntu keeps printing 'classified' cover pages?
[01:22] <sfears> olsn.. you need to be more specific
[01:22] <MasterWitt> peabody: or do I manually have to set it up to be Mplayer as the default, and if so, how do i do that?
[01:22] <m1k3> Ok, I need help, when I try to burn files onto a disk, it says insert a blank cd and I have on in the burner and also it shows the name of my burner drive
[01:22] <peabody> MasterWitt: good question :), might be on the safe side and uninstall the totem one
[01:23] <Syncoder> Да как тут общаться
[01:23] <draygon> airtonix, I have installed it
[01:23] <draygon> Whats next?
[01:23] <MasterWitt> peabody: Alright, I'll do jus that
[01:23] <naelr> genii: can u suggest maybe another room I can try to get some help in?
[01:23] <clay3482> yes I am trying to ssh from my laptop to my desktop - they are only 5 feet away - the desktop is connected to the wireless router that serves my laptop
[01:23] <Squalish> airtonix - how much do pings go down with squid processing? I don't think I'm gonna be using anything to do with caching for multiuser delivery
[01:23] <sfears> have you tried a different burning program m1k3?
[01:23] <Squalish> *go up
[01:23] <airtonix> draygon: ok there shoul dbe fourth option in that visual effects tab
[01:23] <m1k3> sfears:I don't know anymore for linux any suggestions?
[01:23] <MasterWitt> peabody: Yeah I just recently dual booted XP with Ubuntu. I'v been using Ubuntu and seeing if I could make a full switch. So far, its going good :D
[01:23] <airtonix> or for the more options
[01:23] <sfears> what are you using?
[01:23] <jrib> !who | clay3482
[01:23] <ubotu> clay3482: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:23] <Syncoder> Меня что все игнорят
[01:23] <draygon> airtonix, yes, custom?
[01:24] <vanchu> lsb_release -a
[01:24] <vanchu> ?
[01:24] <jrib> clay3482: you need to install openssh-server if you have not yet
[01:24] <airtonix> draygon: goto system -> prefs -> advanced yada yada
[01:24] <draygon> I am therer
[01:24] <draygon> there*
[01:24] <jrib> !ssh > clay3482 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:24] <vanchu> why does that not work>?
[01:24] <bazhang> !ru | Syncoder
[01:24] <ubotu> Syncoder: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:24] <airtonix> adavanced desktops effects settings
[01:24] <peabody> MasterWitt: Good stuff!  The grass is greener here :D.  It's a bit more prickly as well, but you get used to it.
[01:24] <airtonix> draygon: now ..you wanted the spinning cube?
[01:24] <jrib> vanchu: in a terminal, not here
[01:25] <vanchu> lmao
[01:25] <draygon> I dont see advanced desktop
[01:25]  * abcent is back
[01:25] <vanchu> <--- fool
[01:25] <sfears> you need to have compiz-settings-manager installed to have advanced
[01:25] <clay3482> jrib - thanks - I think I already have openssh installed
[01:25] <MasterWitt> peabody: Well Iv had hell with other versions of Ubuntu. Feisty Fawn was already but kept giving me problems. But Gutsy, OMG talk about easy. I'm drooling with that I see. Everything is so easy. I swear I am almost using Windows at times :P
[01:25] <draygon> I have Custom, extra normal and none
[01:25] <jrib> clay3482: check
[01:25] <tarelerulz> any of you install ubuntu 7.10 on a HP pavillion  dv6500?
[01:26] <airtonix> draygon: no entry like : system -> preferences -> advanced desktop effect settings ?
[01:26] <clay3482> jrib - what is the easiest way to check
[01:26] <draygon> Got it
[01:26] <m1k3> what's the apt-get install for compiz-settings-manager?
[01:26] <draygon> yes
[01:26] <draygon> now what?
[01:26] <airtonix> MasterWitt: maybe you can help me with a windows problem...i get half the networks speeds in windows than I get in ubuntu
[01:26] <sfears> draygon.. search for "compiz" in synaptic and install the one "compiz-settings-manager" and you will then have the advanced
[01:26] <jrib> clay3482: apt-cache policy openssh-server
[01:26] <dduong> m1k3:  Not sure off hand but do a apt-cache search compiz
[01:26] <airtonix> MasterWitt: every program launch is meet with a 30sec delay
[01:27] <sfears> i think it's apt-get install compiz-settings-manager
[01:27] <airtonix> sfears: already done
[01:27] <bazhang> draygon: compizconfig-settings-manager is the full name if you are doing it with gutsy
[01:27] <sfears> ohh...
[01:27] <ari_stress> hi guys, good history reading http://kerneltrap.org/node/14002
[01:27] <sfears> doesn't sound like it is
[01:27] <KonjikiNoyami> hi I have trouble upgrading from Ubuntu 7.04 to 7.10, can I just download version 7.10, burn it to CD then use it as bootable CD to install instead?
[01:27] <MasterWitt> airtonix: lol you jus lot me. So your saying you get slow connection in Windows but fast connection in Ubuntu or is it that other way around?
[01:27] <airtonix> draygon: ok so now...let me fire mine up
[01:27] <sfears> yes KonjikiNoyami
[01:27] <jrib> KonjikiNoyami: sure, but you lose your settings
[01:27] <draygon> ok
[01:28] <KonjikiNoyami> sfears, do I have to remove/uninstall 7.04?
[01:28] <airtonix> MasterWitt: in both xp and 2k if I leave touching the wquickbar for 30secs I get a 15sec lag reponse on the 'up; aniamtion of the button
[01:28] <KonjikiNoyami> jrib, I just installed 7.04, so there's nothing to lose :p
[01:28] <clay3482> jrib - the desktop computer returned this in terminal                    Installed: 1:4.6pl-5build1
[01:28] <genii> naelr: Sorry for lag, was researchng another odd situation for #kubuntu channel. No alternate channel comes to mind in which you might find suitable help :(
[01:28] <sfears> nope.. you can keep the partition & dual boot or format the hard drive and do a fresh install.. but like jrib said you will lose all your saved info
[01:28] <airtonix> MasterWitt: and as windows does not support nfs properly....i only get 4-5mb/s at best through samba...whereas in nfs on ubuntu 10mb/s no problem
[01:29] <naelr> genii: thanks ... anyway
[01:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> anyone ever seen this "JACK tmpdir identified as "
[01:29] <jrib> clay3482: on the desktop, try 'ssh localhost'
[01:29] <clay3482> jrib - yes open ssh is installed
[01:29] <sfears> i've had an error similar to that UBUNTUISLOVED but it was that exactally
[01:29] <MasterWitt> airtonix: I have no idea on how to explain it nor do I understand what your asking. I'm sorry :(
[01:29] <airtonix> draygon: ok so now. looks like you might need to install some extras too
[01:29] <sfears> correction.. wasn't* that exactally
[01:29] <airtonix> MasterWitt: just demonstratin that windows isn't perfect either
[01:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> im trying to install lives here and seem to get a repeating error http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=lives
[01:30] <sfears> lives?
[01:30] <genii> naelr: Maybe some acer forum?
[01:30] <KonjikiNoyami> sfears, jrib, I guess it will be ok as I don't have much settings at the moment, thanks
[01:30] <UBUNTUISLOVED> linux video editer
[01:30] <sfears> no prob.. but why are you having trouble upgrading KonjikiNoyami
[01:30] <naelr> genii: it would hafta be not acer run.. they won't offer me any support because I removed vista
[01:31] <clay3482> jrib - it says "The authenticity of host 'localhost 127.0.0.1 cant be established.   Rsa key fingerprint is cifgvguisagfu BJFKCYF are you sure you want to continue connecting?"
[01:31] <jrib> clay3482: yes
[01:31] <MasterWitt> airtonix: Yeah I know, Windows has many many many flaws. But with the linux community, Microsofts downfall is Linux gain. I have seen that since I heard about linux which honestly was not that far ago, I say about 4 yrs ago. but still, I have seen more progress in linux than I have in Microsoft. Apple on the other hand is pretty interesting. Many people are going Linux or Apple
[01:31] <KonjikiNoyami> a window pops-up saying that 'the system is unable to get the prequisites..."
[01:31] <KonjikiNoyami> sorry, I was talking to sfears
[01:31] <clay3482> jrib - it is asking for password?
[01:31] <draygon> airtonix,  what do I need to install
[01:31] <sfears> make sure you do all the upgrades first.. you can't always just jump into the distro upgrade
[01:32] <clay3482> jrib - do i type in my root password for the desktop
[01:32] <airtonix> draygon: ok im not sure which one you should put in now...someone can help which is the right pakage for draygon to put in for extras on compiz?
[01:32] <UBUNTUISLOVED> any idea on my issue?
[01:32] <MasterWitt> peabody: Ummm the Mplayer is just as bad. Its sitting here showing this connecting to server thing and shows a ip address with the last numbers going up. The thing is not playing. Kinda weird
[01:32] <draygon> airtonix, repeat your last sentence please
[01:32] <draygon> I cleared the screen by accident
[01:32] <sfears> i would say apple is superior to linux if you have the loot
[01:32] <genii> naelr: I has same situation with Gateway
[01:32] <genii> *have
[01:32] <jrib> clay3482: sure, enter it, then type 'exit'.  It's your user's password.  This means ssh is working, it is port issue.  How are you trying to ssh on the laptop (what are you typing)?
[01:32] <sfears> because EVERYTHING is propietary and configured correctally with apple
[01:32] <KonjikiNoyami> sfears, thanks
[01:32] <airtonix> draygon: im not sure which package you need ...but look at the results of this command
[01:33] <sfears> YW KonjikiNoyami
[01:33] <airtonix>  sudo apt-cache search compiz | grep plugin
[01:33] <naelr> genii: well if you figure it out I will be all ears...
[01:33] <naelr> genii: someone suggested either recompiling a kernel for it from my dekstop or trying gentoo
[01:33] <airtonix> draygon: hangon first
[01:33] <peabody> MasterWitt: Eh, that's about as good as it gets.  Sorry man.
[01:33] <godzirra> How do I get my trackball to let me use the scroll wheel to scroll again?  I r econfigured X and now it doesnt scroll.
[01:33] <airtonix> draygon: lets see what you do have already
[01:34] <sfears> UBUNTUISLOVED: you said you got that error with linux video editor?
[01:34] <genii> naelr: A gentoo install is nasty but in the end of it you end up with a system optiised for the hw you have.
[01:34] <clay3482> jrib on my laptop I use this                      "#!/bin/bash
[01:34] <clay3482> #ssh_connect.sh
[01:34] <clay3482> ssh -Y -l dad 192.168.1.103"
[01:34] <genii> darn typos
[01:34] <draygon> airtonix, ?
[01:34] <MasterWitt> peabody: Hmmmm this is crazy. Do I gotta install the Gs Streamer packages from the Add/Remove Program as well?
[01:34] <airtonix> MasterWitt: except that half of apples stuff is closed source
[01:34] <airtonix> draygon: in your effect settings gui
[01:34] <sfears> that's what makes apple work so good though
[01:34] <MasterWitt> airtonix: Yeah, like the iPhone & iPod Touch
[01:34] <naelr> genii: yea I left gentoo about 2 years ago and went pure debian... then in the last year found ubuntu started with edgy
[01:34] <m1k3> What are the system requirements to enable "Normal" on Appearance Preferences > Visual Effects?
[01:34] <sfears> you don't have two programs going for the same interrupt at the same time
[01:35] <Chewy954> does the Zune software run in wine?
[01:35] <airtonix> draygon: do you have, for example ..... a section called utility? and under that an item called 'cube caps'
[01:35] <jrib> clay3482: what does 'ifconfig' on the desktop return for your ip.  Please use pastebin for pastes like that in the future
[01:35] <MasterWitt> chewy954: Search the Wine Database
[01:35] <sfears> i think most everything runs in wine assuming it doesn't use directX or similar plugins
[01:35] <Chewy954> I didn't know there was one.
[01:35] <Chewy954> lol
[01:35] <peabody> MasterWitt: If neither mplayer or totem will look at it, it's probably an obscure issue with how the plugin is being instructed on how to connect to the resource.  In fact, with totem, if it had been a codec issue, I think you would have been informed
[01:35] <airtonix> everyone: there is a pastebin widget for the gnome panel...
[01:36] <airtonix> everyone : there is even a cli cmd for pastebin when  used with zenity you can gui'fy it
[01:36] <draygon> airtonix, where?
[01:36] <keegan> u guys know how i can get this  ID 05ca:1837 Ricoh Co., Ltd  webcam working with ubuntu 7.10
[01:36] <clay3482> for eth0 the inet addr ::192.168.1.103
[01:36] <clay3482> sorry jrib
[01:37] <MasterWitt> peabody: Well I'm at WWE.com trying to watch some previews, which I think the movie formats are WMV. I'll install the extra codecs & see what happens.
[01:37] <clay3482> sorry jrib - for the dektop - ifconfig returns inet addr : 192.168.1.103
[01:37] <alyxander> hey whats the application for screensshots?
[01:37] <airtonix> draygon: the advanced desktops effects settings gui.
[01:37] <ari_stress> alyxander: ksnapshot
[01:37] <airtonix> alyxander: in your gnome menu there is one
[01:38] <alyxander> im not using gnome or kde
[01:38] <airtonix> gnome-screenshot
[01:38] <alyxander> xfce
[01:38] <airtonix> ok
[01:38] <jrib> clay3482: what happens on the laptop when you do 'ssh your_remote_username_here@192.168.1.103' ?
[01:38] <airtonix> maybe try fer
[01:38] <clay3482> jrib - the Bcast right nest to it says 192.168.1.255
[01:38] <airtonix> alyxander: sorry 'feh'
[01:38] <bazhang> keegan: built in webcam?
[01:38] <draygon> I'm confused
[01:38] <keegan> bezhang yes
[01:38] <draygon> airtonix,  may I message you
[01:39] <MasterWitt> peabody: Well I'm installing the extra codecs, hopefully this helps.
[01:39] <vanchu> mark2, would you happen to know of a good front end for sdlmame?
[01:39] <airtonix> draygon: ok, but I got to go soon.
[01:39] <keegan> bazhang:  yes
[01:39] <alyxander> airtonix but it will work i bet
[01:39] <naelr> genii: what do you think about recomplining a new kernel on my desktop think that might get it up and running?
[01:39] <alyxander> i know evolition does
[01:39] <sfears> i've uninstalled xchat "sudo dpkg -P xchat" but when i reinstall all the settings are still there.. how do i completly remove an installed application?
[01:39] <peabody> MasterWitt: if it's a wmv, you may need the w32codecs package as well.
[01:39] <clay3482> jrib - it says connect to host dad port 22 refused
[01:39] <alyxander> brb
[01:40] <peabody> I think you can only get that through the mediabuntu repo
[01:40] <draygon> I msg'd you
[01:40] <jrib> clay3482: and 'sudo iptables -L' on the desktop return anything?
[01:40] <MasterWitt> peabody: Yeah, I think it is WMV. So I just search Synaptics Package Manager for w32codecs?
[01:40] <vanchu> does anyone happen to know of a good front end for SDLMAME?
[01:41] <clay3482> jrib - yes a whole bunch of stuff
[01:41] <SeAofSaRo> anyone know where i can find working drivers for logitech orbit webcam?
[01:41] <airtonix> MasterWitt: pitty he can't put rockbox on the zune....ipods however...
[01:41] <robdig> sfears: your settings for xchat are in your home directory, under ~/.xchat2...i don't think any of the uninstalls remove personal settings
[01:41] <bazhang> keegan: sony vaio eyemotion webcam? there's a thread at ubuntuforums about a patch for it
[01:41] <keegan> bazhang:  do you know ?
[01:42] <sfears> alright
[01:42] <jrib> clay3482: you need to open port 22
[01:42] <peabody> MasterWitt: yeah, but I think you'll need to add a repo for that package, it's...not...strictly...legal...in...certain...countries...
[01:42] <m1k3> Doesn anyone know a cd/dvd burning software other than nautilus's for ubuntu?
[01:42] <MasterWitt> peabody: crap. Know where I can get it?
[01:42] <jrib> m1k3: k3b, gnomebaker
[01:42] <keegan> bazhang:  well in that thread , if u see the link to the download file dosnt exist any more :(
[01:42] <tp_> hmm, maybe cdrecord
[01:42] <airtonix> MasterWitt: funny cartoon on newgrounds about that....a policeman with a  silenced pistol at a very users head
[01:42] <tp_> nero for linux ;)
[01:42] <Templer> installed that smbfs program but cant find the network anywhere usin thunar
[01:43] <airtonix> MasterWitt: is dowloading illegal music killing america?
[01:43] <bazhang> keegan: plus the patch had limited functionality apparently--seems like a fix will happen shortly though
[01:43] <clay3482> jrib - thanks - I just figured it out - firestarter was no letting me in - is there anyway I can set it to allways let me in?
[01:43] <airtonix> MasterWitt: is the name of the cartoon I think
[01:43] <draygon> Can someone help me install a driver for VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video
[01:43] <genii> naelr: Compiling a new kernel won't help much unless you know what module to compile into it which is the currently elusive one
[01:43] <draygon> please
[01:43] <tp_> where to get nice fonts for ubuntu?
[01:43] <tp_> like in windows
[01:43] <jrib> clay3482: open up port 22 in firestarter
[01:43] <jrib> clay3482: policy tab I believe
[01:43] <airtonix> clay3482: set your machine to have a static ip and then create rule to allow that ip access to server
[01:43] <MasterWitt> airtonix: Yeah, downloading illegal music is killing the Recording Industry here in America
[01:44] <peabody> MasterWitt: lookup mediabuntu on the wiki
[01:44] <tp_> need fonts
[01:44] <keegan> :) yes bazhang i hope in the next version it will. they have richo drivers in the repos . but they are not for 1837 and the generic dosnt work :(
[01:44] <airtonix> MasterWitt: lulz
[01:44] <tp_> need nice fonts
[01:44] <naelr> genii: I thought I might just complie them all in and make a big fat one and if it boots work backwards from there heheheh not very techincial but wtf right?
[01:44] <pteague> i'm needing a work computer for a new job... anybody know anything about system76?
[01:44] <redheat3r> I need ALGOS database plss
[01:44] <MasterWitt> peabody: Thanks
[01:44] <redheat3r>  I need ALGOS database plss
[01:44] <l00st> ti says 139.764000 buffer I/o error device sr0 logical block1
[01:45] <airtonix> tp_: um...nice try...windows doesn't even have native png support for wallpapers...and everytime I put windows fonts on my ubuntu...the desktop turns ugly
[01:45] <redheat3r>  I need ALGOS database plss
[01:45] <airtonix> pteague: itwarehouse is selling ubuntu machines
[01:45] <keegan> bazhang:  also in my sound theres no sound from the ear phone jack. so i cant connect it to external speakers :(
[01:45] <airtonix> pteague: in austrlalia
[01:45] <vanchu> #join #mame
[01:45] <redheat3r>  I need ALGOS database plss
[01:45] <vanchu> crap
[01:45] <jrib> redheat3r: 1) please don't repeat 2) I don't see how this is related to the topic of ubuntu support
[01:45] <Cyberai> I'm having a strange problem. I upgraded to 7.10 and now certain network and external device related tasks are so slow they crash gnome. The things I've noticed are super slow ssh authentication (but terminal is fine once connected), browsing a samba share is so slow it hangs gnome, browsing my USB MP3 player is very slow as well.  Has anyone seen anything like this before?
[01:46] <airtonix> tp_: to get more fonts : use synaptics and search for 'fonts;
[01:46] <Cyberai> All of these things were very fast before the upgrade.
[01:46] <terrorxs> Hey all. I already know I am a ubuntu noob, but I need help getting grub to work, trying to set it up on a dual boot with vista, using a usb drive to boot it.
[01:46] <terrorxs> Anybody able to lend a hand?
[01:46] <airtonix> Cyberai: don't dist-upgrade....put home folders on sepearate partition and system on another then fresh install over sysmte partition
[01:47] <e-Hernick> terrorxs: what kind of USB drive?
[01:47] <tp_> ok, is there any manual how to setup windows fonts in ubuntu?
[01:47] <Cyberai> airtonix, hindsight is 20/20, but I'm upgraded now,
[01:47] <airtonix> Cyberai: upgrades are always dubious regardless of OS
[01:47] <terrorxs> umm, 2.0, 64mb flash drive
[01:47] <jrib> !fonts > tp_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:47] <terrorxs> the problem I have is in menu.lst
[01:47] <Condoulo> I have a question about e17
[01:47] <ari_stress> hello, do you know which distros use reiserfs by default beside suse?
[01:48] <airtonix> tp_:got here before you ask anything https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[01:48] <terrorxs> the locations for the partitions isnt right, ive tried messing with it, but all I know is dos, etc.
[01:48] <e-Hernick> terrorxs: so you're using GRUB... and have some trouble with GRUB?
[01:48] <tp_> ok
[01:48] <tp_> thx
[01:48] <tp_> i know
[01:48] <tp_> anyway
[01:48] <sfears_> google reiserfs distrobutions
[01:48] <l00st> ti says 139.764000 buffer I/o error device sr0 logical block1
[01:48] <ATE675309> re: system, if you buy a dell 531 from dell outlet for around 250, it runs gutsy straight out of the gate. I bought and extra 2GB RAM for $54 and a nvidia 8400gs from zipzoomfly for $30 after rebate. My system runs completely flawlessly for $under $350 for the box.
[01:48] <terrorxs> ya. I have two drives, a 40gb ide, and a 300gb sata, 1st partition of sata is my windows boot, and the linux boot is on sd7
[01:49] <airtonix> tp_: yeah anyway...till you read that place for the simplest of problems you probably won't get answers of any other kind
[01:49] <pteague> airtonix> shipping on that might be a bit much... i'm in usa
[01:49] <Vad> Hello. Does the "network-admin" tool depend on network manager in any way?
[01:49] <e-Hernick> sd7?
[01:49] <e-Hernick> you mean sdb7 maybe?
[01:49] <terrorxs> So ya, I got the usb drive to boot to the menu. but it cant find the partitions.
[01:49] <airtonix> pteague: dell then?
[01:49] <terrorxs> ya, sdb7
[01:50] <e-Hernick> so you got the grub menu, ok
[01:50] <e-Hernick> can you get a grub command line?
[01:50] <Vad> Because I -finally- connected to a wep-proctected network with network-admin, but I'd like to put wicd back on. Which wants network-manager out.
[01:50] <Condoulo> How can I get my GTK apps to integrate with e17?
[01:50] <pteague> eww - i've about had my fill of dell...  honestly i'd rather build it myself, but not sure they'll allow me the time
[01:50] <terrorxs> I can, im actually booted into a livecd right now.
[01:50] <e-Hernick> does grub see your drives?
[01:50] <airtonix> pteague: do you want tech's to do setup stuff for devices too?
[01:50] <terrorxs> hernick, what do u mean?
[01:51] <tp_> airtronix: dont teach me life
[01:51] <tarelerulz>  lspci says I have this " Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)" lspci -n says I have this "02:00.0 0280: 14e4:4311 (rev 02)" I get the 14e4:4311 to match , but not the other part and windows calls it Broadcom 802.11b/g wlan  and device manager say it use bcmwl6.sys file . lost
[01:51] <airtonix> tp_: don't fail it then
[01:51] <e-Hernick> terrorxs: well, if you get a GRUB command line, you can type root (hd<TAB> and it'll show you what drives it sees
[01:51] <pteague> airtonix> if the hardware is already linux friendly i really don't care (granted nvidia & ati are special cases)...
[01:52] <e-Hernick> then you use autocompletion to figure out the drive order GRUB is using
[01:52] <DIL> i want to install an application from the repositories, but it wont install unless i am connected to the net. I there another way to do this w/o being on the net
[01:52] <tp_> airtronix: are you op or i can tell you fcuk off?
[01:52] <e-Hernick> root (hd1,6) would be second drive, seventh partition
[01:52] <sfears_> is there a linux friendly equivilant to nvidia?
[01:52] <airtonix> pteague: my ati9600 is giving me a hell of a time doing bigdesktop
[01:52] <e-Hernick> sfears_: intel if you don't need fast 3d
[01:52] <Vad> DIL: Yes, you need to be connected - because repositories are just special servers with programs. So when you install from them, the program is downloaded and then installed.
[01:52] <mark2> what does NI mean in top\htop?
[01:52] <airtonix> tp_: kek
[01:53] <e-Hernick> mark2: idle
[01:53] <pteague> hehe... yeah, my dell laptop has an ati vid card in it... i think i'd rather go with nvidia
[01:53] <DIL> thanks!!
[01:53] <naelr> genii: I know this is an old post but read this one http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/24609792/m/379004998731 and tell me if it sounds like your problem too
[01:53] <Sajes> I need help. When trying to watch Super Troopers in the Totem video player, "An error occurred. Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file." even if I start it with gksudo totem.
[01:53] <airtonix> pteague: well my old man has a nvidia and he on xubuntu, I can't get teht svideo going either
[01:53] <Vad> Sajes: Where did you save the video to?
[01:53] <l00st> ti says 139.764000 buffer I/o error device sr0 logical block1
[01:53] <e-Hernick> Sajes: can you play other files with totem? have you tried to use another player to play this file?
[01:53] <Sajes> Vad: It's on a dvd.
[01:53] <mark2> thanks e-Hernick, is it normal for some processes to be -5 - 19?
[01:53] <sfears_> littering annnnd... littering annnnd... littering annnndddd......
[01:53] <e-Hernick> makr2 yes
[01:54] <terrorxs> Hernick, all I get is hd0,0, which is the ide, it doesnt see the sata drive i presume
[01:54] <MasterWitt> peabody: I think I might have found a bug. The WWE has advertisements before the video, so maybe the plugins don't recognize the transition from the ads to the actual video
[01:54] <Sajes> e-Hernick: I don't have another player; Any suggestions?
[01:54] <Vad> Sajes: Oh. I don't know then, never used my dvd drive yet.
[01:54] <airtonix> e-Hernick: that's a goo number right?
[01:54] <airtonix> e-Hernick: good*
[01:54] <Vad> Sajes: Try VLC
[01:54] <airtonix> Sajes: vlc!
[01:54] <atlfalcons866> doe the ubuntu dvd have kubuntu xubuntu on it
[01:54] <Condoulo> who here can help me with a problem with VLC?
[01:54] <Poindextra> I'm not fond of VLC, personally.
[01:54] <Condoulo> *Enlightenment
[01:54] <Sajes> Vad: Will do. Thanks.
[01:54] <sfears_> i'm not even sure what VLC is
[01:54] <pteague> anybody know of any video cards that are dual-monitor friendly with ubuntu ?
[01:54] <Poindextra> It's a media player.
[01:54] <airtonix> Poindextra: apart from totem it does the best job on 'majority' of platforms
[01:55] <MasterWitt> peabody: It showed the beginning part of the video that says "so and so about watching our sponsor" then it goes into showing you a video ad, then it goes into the actual video play back. I think there might be a bug transitioning from the ad video the actual video
[01:55] <Sajes> Heh. 15MB. That'll take a while on good ol' dial up. ;)
[01:55] <Poindextra> I'm having an issue viewing videos online.
[01:55] <Condoulo> but yeah, who here can help me with a problem I have with Enlightenment?
[01:55] <Poindextra> And Totem's not giving me visuals.
[01:55] <snkmad> anyone knows a place i can find ppl to talk in english using skype?
[01:55] <e-Hernick> terrorxs: could be. GRUB usually sees SATA drives though
[01:55] <Poindextra> I can get audio, but no video.
[01:55] <atlfalcons866> doe the ubuntu dvd have kubuntu xubuntu on it
[01:55] <e-Hernick> terrorxs: might be something in your BIOS
[01:55] <sfears_> have you tried #skype e-Hernick
[01:55] <airtonix> Poindextra: are you watching via stream in totem?>
[01:55] <Poindextra> Yeah.
[01:55] <terrorxs> hmm, it boots off the sata drive normally
[01:56] <airtonix> Poindextra: where is the stream from?
[01:56] <xp_prg> how can I transfer to root user permanently?
[01:56] <airtonix> can you pm url
[01:56] <peabody> MasterWitt: well, worth looking into on launchpad
[01:56] <xp_prg> sudo su - ?
[01:56] <Poindextra> pbs.org, I think.
[01:56] <Poindextra> Mk.
[01:56] <airtonix> xp_prg: that's for current sesssion
[01:56] <atlfalcons866> !gnewsense
[01:56] <ubotu> gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org  -  Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu
[01:56] <MasterWitt> peabody: To be honest with you, I don't understand how you read the launchpad stuff :P
[01:56] <terrorxs> hernick, if I take the usb drive, it boots into vista no probs. i did root (hd0,0), found it, when I do root (hd1,0) , nothing
[01:56] <vanchu> anyone knwo of a good simple frontend for SDLMAME?
[01:56] <atlfalcons866> !gusty
[01:56] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[01:56] <airtonix> Poindextra: do you know what format it is?
[01:56] <peabody> MasterWitt: it takes getting used to, here, maybe I can find the pages for you...
[01:57] <Poindextra> QuickTime.
[01:57] <airtonix> ahhh
[01:57] <Poindextra> Or Real, whichever.
[01:57] <airtonix> Poindextra: hate that format....but here goes
[01:57] <sfears_> how do i figure out what dvd rom i have installed so i can try to find drivers for it?
[01:57] <keegan> hey do i know if my processors are 64 bit or 32.
[01:57] <zman0900> quick question about tcp window scaling: is there any downside to disabling it?  (I am running ubuntu 7.10 on a university network with an ethernet connection)
[01:57] <sparky> got the cube working
[01:57] <Sajes> sfears_: you don't need drivers for a dvd drive..
[01:57] <sfears_> sweet
[01:58] <Shadix> what's a good IM app for linux
[01:58] <Poindextra> Gaim.
[01:58] <zman0900> gaim is great
[01:58] <MasterWitt> peabody: Maybe you can help me verify if this might indeed be a bug. Lemme get you the page to view the video on. http://www.wwe.com//content/media/video/vms/raw/2007/november15-21/5881416 - see if you can watch it all the way to the end.
[01:58] <airtonix> Poindextra: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ first
[01:58] <Shadix> Gaim can do Gmail and MSn?
[01:58] <atlfalcons866> why is my edgy install have only firefox 1.5.14 but not firefox 2.0.9
[01:58] <Poindextra> Will do.
[01:58] <jrib> Shadix: gaim is now called pidgin (it's in your Internet menu)
[01:58] <airtonix> Shadix: what do you want it to do?
[01:58] <DG19075> Shadix: try Pidgin
[01:58] <keegan> Shadix : yes
[01:58] <Poindextra> And dear lord, this channel moves fast.
[01:58] <MasterWitt> peabody: It plays the "Gretting about watch our sponsor" then its suppose to go into a little video ad, then its suppose to show you the actual video. In this case, it does not work out that way
[01:59] <airtonix> gaim! | Shadix
[01:59] <MasterWitt> peabody: So this could indeed be a bug.
[01:59] <zman0900> anyone catch that tcp_window_scaling question?
[01:59] <DG19075> !Pidgin| Shadix
[01:59] <ubotu> Shadix: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0
[01:59] <SirML> connect irc.gnome.org
[01:59] <airtonix> the naming transtion of gaim is still in process
[02:00] <airtonix> some things that you install for pidgn are still called gaim-blah-blah
[02:00] <peabody> MasterWitt: definitely more than likely, gamespot videos give me trouble all the time with those plugins, I've just been too lazy to look into it...let's see...
[02:00] <Shadix> well the only issue I have is that my theme is dark and so black text is lost
[02:00] <airtonix> ie: trying to get the title of you musicplayer into the status of your IM prog
[02:00] <MasterWitt> peabody: Well i'll look into this later. Right now, wwe is on. I wanna thank you for helping me out with my problems
[02:01] <MasterWitt> peabody: I'll see you around here sometime. Laters
[02:01] <MasterWitt> Good night everyone. Signing out
[02:02] <sparky> i got a question
[02:02] <bazhang> shoot sparky
[02:02] <antler> awwww, it's sparky!
[02:02] <sparky> what is the default app that opens exe files in ubuntu?
[02:02] <keegan> wine
[02:02] <Poindextra> I don't think there is one.
[02:02] <zman0900> quick question about tcp window scaling: is there any downside to disabling it?  (I am running ubuntu 7.10 on a university network with an ethernet connection)
[02:02] <Syncoder> Hello
[02:03] <bazhang> no default sparky
[02:03] <sparky> ok
[02:03] <Poindextra> Wine is love.
[02:03] <bazhang> sparky: you can install wine though
[02:03] <sparky> are you able to open exe files?
[02:03] <bazhang> !wine | sparky
[02:03] <ubotu> sparky: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:03] <sparky> ok
[02:04] <airtonix> sparky: also remember that any virus in the file probably won't execute
[02:04] <Syncoder> Тут есть руские мать вашу
[02:04] <sparky> right
[02:04] <Poindextra> The terminal hates me.
[02:04] <airtonix> sparky: like trying to infect a robot with aids
[02:04] <keegan> bazhang:  my sound does not come from the ear phone jack
[02:04] <bazhang> !ru | Syncoder
[02:04] <ubotu> Syncoder: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:05] <l00st> any one know what this means ( 139.764000 buffer I/o error device sr0 logical block1) ?
[02:05] <Poindextra> Why do I keep getting "No such file/directory" in the terminal?
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[02:05] <Poindextra> I know I have that file...
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[02:06] <Hilikus> airtonix i think that other guy was right, every server that supports the msn protocol, when i add my msn contact to it doesnt deliver the request (or a msg) maybe msn is blocking messages from jabber servers??
[02:06] <ST47> yaywar
[02:07] <airtonix> Hilikus: they want to make sure your msgs go through them only monopolised wiretapping
[02:08] <atlfalcons866> what jus happened
[02:08] <Hilikus> so theres no way to msg msn using jabber?
[02:08] <airtonix> yes
[02:08] <kahrytan> Can someone help me setup Officejet 5510 in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <Wifi-Phreak> !aircrack
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <airtonix> Hilikus: you just have to find a server that has the msn plugin available
[02:08] <Wifi-Phreak> !kismet
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kismet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <Poindextra> 'Kay.  I keep getting 'no suck file or directory' in the terminal, when I have the file in question staring me in the face.
[02:09] <Poindextra> What am I supposed to do?
[02:09] <airtonix> Hilikus: I konow its poss coz I was doing a while ago
[02:09] <bazhang> Hilikus: yahoo messenger supports msn network
[02:09] <Hilikus> airtonix i did that, most of them tell me the protocol is not available, but some of them dont, so those i assume have the plugin installed
[02:09] <atlfalcons866> why isnt it recommned to use the wine resportory
[02:09] <axsuul_> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[02:09] <airtonix> Hilikus: you also have to register at the server
[02:10] <Hilikus> bazhang is there a way to send yahoo msgs from a command shell?
[02:10] <airtonix> Hilikus: which is ofternt he case to use that msn relay
[02:10] <axsuul_> when opening a video file on a windows machine, i went to properties for the file and set it to open with VLC media player.  But it still opens with Movie Player when i click on the file, any ideas?
[02:10] <Hilikus> airtonix i registered
[02:10] <bazhang> Hilikus: no idea there
[02:10] <robdig> Poindextra: does the filename have a space in it?
[02:10] <atlfalcons866> we have to register now
[02:10] <airtonix> Hilikus: then you need to set your own server up
[02:10] <Poindextra> Not that I recall...
[02:10] <axsuul_> this is also through samba share
[02:10] <Hilikus> airtonix do you have a jabber account i can add to try?
[02:10] <Poindextra> No, it doesn't.
[02:10] <bazhang> axsuul_: not really a ubuntu question is it?
[02:11] <ATE675309> kahrytan: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/
[02:11] <jadams> hey so weird-ish question.  When I connect via wifi, I can't get out to the internet.  When I wire up I can.  This is only on one machine I own, my 2 year old laptop.
[02:11] <jadams> I can hit the gateway
[02:11] <airtonix> axsuul_: can't store pref on remote files
[02:11] <jadams> I just can't hit anything more internet-wards
[02:11] <robdig> Poindextra: are you using the same case? linux is case sensitive
[02:11] <kahrytan> ATE675309, hplip doesnt work
[02:11] <Poindextra> Yup.
[02:11] <keegan> my ear phone jack does not work any one have any ideas,
[02:11] <sfears_> keegan, the volume in the sounds prefs is turned down
[02:12] <nickzeke> Where is chanserv?
[02:12] <keegan> sFEARs:  my inbuilt speakers work, but when i plug in the ear phone in the jack . the speakers keep on but the ear phones dont work ,
[02:12] <robdig> Poindextra: can you do an ls, copy it and then paste it where you need it in the terminal?
[02:13] <Poindextra> Do a what?
[02:13] <kahrytan> Can someone help me setup Officejet 5510 in Ubuntu? It keeps printing darn cover pages when policy specifically says NOT TO
[02:13] <robdig> Poindextra: ls is like dir on dos
[02:13] <axsuul_> bazhang: well im trying to access a shared file on a windows machine
[02:13] <tyler_3> anyone know a bit about joomla?
[02:13] <Poindextra> I'm lost.
[02:14] <kahrytan> Can someone help me setup Officejet 5510 in Ubuntu? It keeps printing darn 'classifed' cover pages when policy specifically says NOT TO or will continue to print classified when banner page is set to unclassified
[02:14] <sFEARs> umm.. almost sounds like a hardware problem
[02:14] <sFEARs> sounds like a bad ground in your earphone jack
[02:14] <bazhang> axsuul_: not sure there; have you asked in ##windows?
[02:14] <robdig> Poindextra: maybe i misunderstood...i thought that you needed to enter a file name in terminal, but it said it couldn't find it
[02:14] <axsuul_> bazhang: but im trying to access the file from ubuntu
[02:14] <Poindextra> I'm trying to install a .bin file.
[02:14] <bazhang> keegan: I think sFEARs is right, sounds like faulty jack
[02:14] <Lore1> how would one go about setting up a right click drag + options menu in ubuntu?
[02:14] <axsuul_> bazhang: and from ubuntu, i want to open a video file with VLC by default
[02:15] <axsuul_> bazhang: but its opening with Movie Player
[02:15] <DG19075> Poidextra: ls ..think of it as LiSting fles and directories much like you do with the dir command under DOS
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: what program is it?
[02:15] <airtonix> tyler_3: joomla is no where as good or extensible as drupal
[02:15] <bazhang> axsuul_: can you right click open with?
[02:15] <atlfalcons866> why do we have to register now
[02:15] <Poindextra> It's a RealPlayer plugin for Firefox.
[02:15] <kahrytan> Can someone help me setup Officejet 5510 in Ubuntu? It keeps printing darn 'classifed' cover pages when policy specifically says NOT TO or will continue to print classified when banner page is set to unclassified. Im using hpijs drive. hplip doesnt work
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: they give you the instructions right on their site.
[02:15] <Poindextra> I follow them, and I still have the same problem.
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: and what problem is that?
[02:16] <Poindextra> The terminal says "no such file or directory"
[02:16] <sFEARs> kahrytan, i don't think this has anything to do with your printer.. it's proally a setting with whatever program your printing from.. have you tried printing from a different program?
[02:16] <airtonix> Poindextra: have yo utriedh e one in the repos
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: you're in the wrong directory
[02:16] <Poindextra> Gah.
[02:16] <zman0900> quick question about tcp window scaling: is there any downside to disabling it?  (I am running ubuntu 7.10 on a university network with an ethernet connection)
[02:16] <airtonix> Poindextra: woops...have you tried the ones in the repos?
[02:16] <Poindextra> Where?
[02:16] <kahrytan> sFEARs,  Im using  .. firefox. Openoffice crashes when trying to print
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: i think realplayer is in the medibuntu repository, but i could be wrong.
[02:17] <sFEARs> what about printing from nautalis or konqueror
[02:17] <Condoulo> ok, I have a question about GRUB. I have Windows XP installed on my 40GB hard drive, right. And then I install Ubuntu on my 80GB hard drive. But GRUB won't show the XP install. Why is that? Can I fix that?
[02:17] <Poindextra> Forgive my stupidity, but I'm new at all this.
[02:17] <sFEARs> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:17] <airtonix> Condoulo: I think you need to investigate the manipulation of grub
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> Condoulo: you should have installed Grub on the master drive, and it would have detcted it all just fine.
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> sFEARs: you need root access to edit menu.lst
[02:17] <Lore1> Condoulo: You can see which listings you have in your /boot/grub/menu.lst , you may need to chmod if you wish to edit it.
[02:17] <airtonix> Poindextra: s'ok... ther is a website for mediubuntu
[02:17] <Condoulo> IndyGunFreak- My 80GB hard drive is my master drive. =/
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: not a problem... what are you trying to do?
[02:18] <ATE675309> kahrytan what doesn't it work? it says supported here: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/combined.html (search 5510)
[02:18] <keegan> sFEARs:  bazhang its not a faulty earphone jack cause it works fine on vista
[02:18] <sFEARs> sorry.. gksu gedit boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> Condoulo: you're point?.. you can put grub on any drive you want.
[02:18] <bazhang> keegan: ok, not sure then
[02:18] <sFEARs> interesting keegan
[02:18] <zman0900> quick question about tcp window scaling: is there any downside to disabling it?  (I am running ubuntu 7.10 on a university network with an ethernet connection)
[02:18] <thornomad> hello - i have a folder set with group file permissions "stickied" to read/write for the group ... this way if users create a file in the folder, the whole group can access it read/write ... which is what I want ... this works fine, however if I move a file from a user's folder into the group folder the original permissions stay with the file ... what I want is them to be "converted" to the group stickied permissions ... is this
[02:18] <terrorxs> anybody help me with a grub problem. It doesnt see my sata drive. :(
[02:18] <antler> just reinstall grub on the mbr
[02:18] <kahrytan> ATE675309,  then it's lying. It puts print job in que then says completed. however, printer doesnt print anything.
[02:18] <Poindextra> Reader's Digest - I'm trying to view a video online for an assignment I have to do, but when I open it, I either need to install the plugin or all I get is audio (depending on which option I click.)
[02:18] <airtonix> Poindextra: did you know that in forefox you can use the location field like this : (type) imdb the fountain
[02:19] <airtonix> Poindextra: firefox*
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> Poindextra: type this,.... "/join #indygunfreak"
[02:19] <sparky> ok all im out
[02:19] <Condoulo> Lorel- I used sudo gedit to access the menu.lst file. What do I edit? =/
[02:19] <sFEARs> is your headphone jack both a standard audio or spdif mini jack?.. (digital audio) lights up red?
[02:19] <sparky> later everyone
[02:19] <kahrytan> It's funny how Windows can print to this printer and Ubuntu can't
[02:19] <Bitruder> I installed 7.04 and I just upgraded to 7.10 using the Software Upgrade tool in Ubuntu.  Now when it boots, I can't log in!
[02:19] <ATE675309> kahrytan parallel or USB?
[02:19] <sFEARs> kahrytan, you may have incorrect drivers loaded for that printer
[02:20] <kahrytan> ATE675309,  USB
[02:20] <kahrytan> sFEARs,  hpijs driver. only one that works
[02:20] <genii> thornomad: Instead make some temporary dropoff and put files from user dirs into there. Then a cronjob which runs every few minutes or such sees if anything in that dir. If so, chown/group stickies it then mv to the endpoint dir
[02:20] <Outlander> hi all :)
[02:20] <ATE675309> Try using deskjet 3600
[02:20] <sFEARs> hi Outlander
[02:20] <Condoulo> I am confused, and have no idea what I am doing. And I can't even access my windows install for games.
[02:20] <sFEARs> and you've tried printing from multiple programs?
[02:20] <txoof> In fiesty I had /dev/usb/lp0 - in gutsy there doesn't appear to be /dev/usb/ do I need a kernel module for this?
[02:20] <kahrytan> ATE675309,  it's a multifunction printer .. aka fax, scan, copier
[02:21] <tarelerulz> do any of you run ubuntu 7.10 on hp panvillion dv6500 models close to that ?
[02:21] <Bitruder> Is this a common problem?
[02:21] <magic_ninja> for some reason cs keeps crashing in wine, is this a wine specific problem or a hardware problem
[02:21] <thornomad> genii: oh ... good idea ... could i also have the cronjob just check the shared directory (via sudo) and automatically change the group and permissions on everything that is in there ?
[02:21] <kahrytan> ATE675309, and I bet its hpijs that is buggy
[02:21] <sFEARs> Condoulo, you need to figure out what hard drive your windows partition is (hd0,0 or hd0,1) and edit your menu.lst file to point to it
[02:21] <genii> thornomad: Actually that might even be a better way. Just write a small script to do it, then call it from the cron etc etc
[02:22] <tarelerulz> The sound did not work fix that and the lan seem to work well, and the wireless don't work all the way I use ndiswrapper and bcml5 and it gets irc and synaptic ,but web pages time out?
[02:22] <ATE675309> I use hplip flawlessly wih a C3180 All in one, but I know that doesn't help you.
[02:22] <airtonix> thornomad: if you seet the perms properly on the parent dir you shouldn't need to so that
[02:23] <airtonix> thornomad: shoundt need do that*
[02:23] <sanzanric> is it possible to have Ubuntu load into ram when it is installed
[02:23] <thornomad> genii: i don't know a lot about linux ... would a simple: sudo chgrp -R /shared-dir && sudo chmod g+w -R /shared-dir do it ?
[02:23] <kahrytan> ATE675309,  I have officejet 5510
[02:23] <airtonix> thornomad: gah....
[02:23] <ATE675309> duh
[02:23] <thornomad> airtonix: i have them set as: drwxrwsr-x ... and it works when i create a file in the directory to start with ... but not when something is moved
[02:23] <airtonix> thornomad: I pretty sure that when your in the desired directory a : sudo chown user:group ./ -are will do it
[02:24] <rabidweezle> anyone here play unreal tournament?
[02:24] <airtonix> thornomad: replace the last 'are' with letter /are
[02:24] <kahrytan> ATE675309,  the funny thing is that it will print test pages w/o cover page
[02:24] <l00st> faps faps faps faps faps faps faps faps faps
[02:24] <ATE675309> Sounds like maybe a CUPS problem maybe remove/reinstall?
[02:24] <genii> thornomad: Looks syntactically OK to me, though I am a bit without caffeine right now :)
[02:24] <Outlander> hi team :) im having issues booting from an ata dvd drive to install ubuntu 7.10 64bit on my new core2duo system (q6600 quadcore)
[02:24] <DG19075> kahrytan, look here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338496
[02:24] <kahrytan> ATE675309,  oh wait im wrong. it still does
[02:25] <Outlander> any tricks to it i need to look out for? im getting an ata3.0 error
[02:25] <thornomad> genii: okay, let me run some tests on dummy files before i hit up the real directory
[02:25] <Bitruder> I just upgraded form 7.04 to 7.10.  I can log in from when I'm not in the GUI, but in the GUI, I can't log in.  Any ideas?
[02:25] <sFEARs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28gru%29    <~~~ grub how to
[02:25] <ma2> why is my 3D for my  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express not working ?
[02:25] <thornomad> thanks to genii and airtonix ... i will give that a try
[02:25] <kahrytan> DG19075,  there isnt a solution to that problem
[02:25] <sanzanric> i have 2gb of ram and i'm hardly ever using more than 300mb, is it possible to have something like preload but not a daemon
[02:26] <DG19075> that is interesting.... but think it may be a bad driver...
[02:26] <keith-> okay so i installed gutsy on my desktop earlier... i had had arch linux on it for some time now... but due to boredom i felt like switching back
[02:26] <keith-> but upon boot it couldn't find the kernel
[02:26] <keith-> anyone else seen this problem?
[02:26] <Outlander> i may have found my issue http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/faqView.do?b2b_bbs_msg_id=124&orderNum=4
[02:27] <dapimp532> how do I list apps installed via apt-get
[02:27] <btard> my desktop someone got placed in my trash
[02:27] <LjL> dapimp532: dpkg -l
[02:28] <sFEARs> keith- is your boot/grub/menu.lst file pointing to an available kernel?
[02:28] <rabidweezle> synaptic lists em
[02:28] <btard> it's screwed my filesystem all up
[02:28] <ATE675309> dpkg -l
[02:28] <kahrytan> DG19075,  or printer prefs dont set hpijs prefs
[02:28] <btard> how do I fix that?
[02:28] <keith-> sFEARs: umm well it's a fresh install why shouldn't it be?  that's what i'm wondering...
[02:28] <txoof> In Fiesty I had /dev/usb/lp0 that I used for my hp1018.  It apears to be missing in my new install of Gutsy.  What do I need to do to set up /dev/usb/lp0?
[02:28] <zman0900> why do I need to disable tcp_window_scaling to access some websites with 7.10?
[02:28] <sFEARs> sometimes things mess up
[02:29] <IdleOne> zman0900: what site?
[02:29] <sFEARs> check your /lib/modules folder and make sure grub matches one of the kernels listed there
[02:30] <foso> hey, where do i get the codecs for avi?
[02:30] <btard> please someone it's driving me insane
[02:30] <kahrytan> stupid ubuntu
[02:30] <IdleOne> !avi | foso
[02:30] <ubotu> foso: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:30] <sFEARs> i'm getting an error source can't be read for a DVD i'm trying to play.. and i've installed the plugins totem auto installed.. any idea what to try next?
[02:30] <zman0900> IdleOne:  http://career.eng.ohio-state.edu/      and     http://www.ureg.ohio-state.edu/
[02:30] <btard> the hotlinked desktop will not move out of trash
[02:30] <dapimp532> I also just recently switched to ubuntu and I understand that the su root has been disabled. If I enabled that account but locked the ssh login, wouldnt it be the same?
[02:31] <Lore1> sudo works
[02:31] <sFEARs> error reading nav packets.. is this a DRM kinda thing?
[02:31] <foso> idleone thanks
[02:31] <LjL> dapimp532, why would you need to do that?
[02:31] <kahrytan> dapimp532,  sudo works though. dont need root
[02:31] <ma2> how i restart the system ?
[02:31] <shenron> y
[02:31] <dapimp532> Lorel1: it gets kind of old typing sudo before all the commands
[02:31] <ATE675309> shutdown -r now
[02:31] <sFEARs> ma2, sudo reboot
[02:31] <IdleOne> zman0900: try asking in #ubuntu-mozillateam I am not sure why that happens
[02:32] <ATE675309> oops sudo shutdown -r now
[02:32] <Lore1> you could try setting an alias up
[02:32] <btard> can someone help me
[02:32] <btard> please
[02:32] <terrorxs> Anybody know of a reason why Grub wouldnt recognize my sata drive in which ubuntu is installed? I have an evga nf41 motherboard...
[02:32] <btard> i need to know how to move my desktop out of my trash
[02:32] <zman0900> IdleOne:  I have the problem using Opera as well...
[02:32] <sFEARs> not sure btard
[02:32] <phrantik> how'd you do that btard
[02:32] <sFEARs> how did it get there in the first place
[02:32] <IdleOne> zman0900: #opera might be able to help you also
[02:33] <zman0900> I'll give them a try
[02:33] <btard> it has the home folder desktop placed inside the trash
[02:33] <dapimp532> ok with an older version of ubuntu I could start and stop almost all applications with /etc/init.d/apache2 start. I have been trying /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and it is telling me that the application is not running. When I type ps -ax it is running
[02:34] <btard> so it links everything I download straight into my recycle bin
[02:34]  * genii wonders if #opera is a musical channel or about the web browser
[02:34] <phrantik> have you tried just dragging it out?
[02:34] <Lore1> Would anyone know how to add functionality so I can drag and drop with a right click event and add a new menu?
[02:34] <IdleOne> genii: the browser
[02:35] <genii> /join #opera
[02:35] <btard> I have
[02:35] <genii> bleh
[02:35] <MadWilliamFlint> ah, it's nice to be back in linux land.
[02:35] <btard> i need admin privileges tho
[02:35] <sFEARs> gksu nautilus and move it out of the trash
[02:35] <Lore1> Any one know of an easy way to do that without programming it.
[02:36] <sFEARs> not sure LordC
[02:36] <sFEARs> woops.. Lorel
[02:36]  * MadWilliamFlint shrugs.  sorry, no.
[02:36]  * sFEARs testing
[02:36] <SeAofSaRo> how does the new ubuntu compare to the new fedora?
[02:36] <IdleOne> SeAofSaRo: two seperate and distinct distros
[02:36] <btard> i know my admin pass
[02:37] <btard> it just wont let me move it
[02:37] <SeAofSaRo> i know, but why use ubuntu?
[02:37] <SeAofSaRo> like what are the advantages?
[02:37] <phrantik> did you try using sudo command first?
[02:37] <SeAofSaRo> i have the new one installed and it just seems buggy so far
[02:37] <sFEARs> btard <alt+f2> gksu nautilus.. when nautilus opens navigate to your trash and move it out
[02:37] <kahrytan> sFEARs, i went back top using hplip. I start print in firefox, I look at print que. It processes, then says completed. However, nothing prints.
[02:38] <sFEARs> kahrytan.. have you sucsessfully printed from a program other than firefox?
[02:38] <Lore1> ubuntu's relatively  easy to set up and there's a wealth of support information available on their forums for new users to *nix systems.
[02:38] <kahrytan> sFEARs, Oo crashes
[02:38] <sFEARs> alright... i'll ask again
[02:39] <sFEARs> kahrytan.. have you sucsessfully printed from a program other than firefox?
[02:39] <kahrytan> sFEARs, Oo crashes
[02:39] <Condoulo> hey, is there any command that will list the different hard drive roots?
[02:39] <SeAofSaRo> so its just the ease of use?
[02:39] <IdleOne> sFEARs: guess the answer would be no he has not
[02:39] <dexter_> hello
[02:39] <sFEARs> i'll go with that one
[02:39] <Bucketface> urm, hi. sorry to trouble you with such a problem but I'm having trouble getting zsnes to work. it opens then closes immediately after. when I open it from terminal, I get these errors; Starting Mouse detection.Unable to poll /dev/input/event6. Make sure you have read permissions to it etc. and ;can't create mcop directory
[02:39] <btard> sFEARs: I love you :]
[02:40] <sFEARs> Condoulo, sudo fdisk -l will give you some idea.. but i think you looking for the (hd0,0) and fdisk doesn't do that
[02:40] <kahrytan> sFEARs, Oo crashes, gedit sends a print request and it cups says completed. but nothing printed
[02:40]  * sFEARs feels the love
[02:40] <phrantik> lol
[02:40] <Condoulo> sFEARs- yeah, sadly, I am looking for (hd0,0)
[02:40] <sFEARs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28gru%29
[02:40] <sFEARs> try looking thru that Condoulo
[02:41] <btard> fuck
[02:41] <kahrytan> Anyone else feel like tackling my printer challnge?
[02:41] <IdleOne> !ohmy | btard
[02:41] <ubotu> btard: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <btard> sorry!
[02:42] <brunner> what file contains the default printer setting?
[02:42] <btard> now it thinks my desktop that is always visible is trash
[02:42] <btard> and says
[02:42] <btard> when i try to copy a folder
[02:42] <btard> cannot copy to trash
[02:42] <btard> !!
[02:42] <brunner> I'm trying to figure out a way to set my default printer based on what wifi network I'm on.
[02:42] <LjL> !enter | btard
[02:42] <ubotu> btard: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:42] <kahrytan> Anyone else feel like tackling my printer challnge?
[02:42] <sFEARs> sounds like you'd need a script brunner
[02:42] <sFEARs> i'm not sure where to go next kahrytan
[02:43] <kahrytan> Anyone else feel like tackling my printer challenge? HPLIP/Cups doesnt print but marks job as completed
[02:43] <brunner> sFEARs: indeed. and in order to write one, I need to figure out where the default printer setting is stored. any ideas where to go for that?
[02:43] <sFEARs> not yet
[02:44] <Eno_> does anyone know why my wine takes a few minutes to start? even winecfg does
[02:44] <Eno_> in gutsy
[02:44] <sFEARs> most prefs are stored in /home/user folder.. mabey there's a printer folder in there somewhere
[02:44] <sFEARs> sorry.. /home/user_name
[02:44] <sFEARs> make sure view hidden files is selected
[02:45] <Eno_> i also upgraded to the one in winehq.org, but its also slow
[02:45] <Lore1> Anyone know if you can setup right click to drag + drop files?
[02:46] <Lore1> or how to turn off image thumbnails for icons on the desktop.
[02:46] <bazhang> Lore1: as in kde?
[02:46] <prappl93> I need some help
[02:46] <Lore1> i'm using gnome 2.2 atm
[02:46] <sFEARs> don't we all prappl93
[02:46] <no0tic> Lore1, setup the mouse for lefties
[02:47] <Bucketface> uh, is anyone able to help, or confirm their inability to help?
[02:47] <Lore1> I like being able to right click files and dragging them and on drop having a option menu pop up for copy item / move item + other scripts
[02:47] <sFEARs> i was thinking that no0tic
[02:47] <prappl93> I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.10, it gets to about 52%, and then crashes because 1 file is corrupted... and I cannot boot to my other OS that I had on, help!
[02:47] <prappl93> I am using a LiveCD
[02:47] <psykidellic> Hi. "find directory/ -name *.xml | xargs cat | grep text" to look for files containing some text. Any simpler version?
[02:47] <mks> ubuntu is for winners
[02:47] <bazhang> that is available in kde/kubuntu Lore1 not sure how to do that in gnome however
[02:48] <Bucketface> prappl93, I think your partitions got messed up
[02:48] <sFEARs> you could open your mouse and solder a jumper wire from the left to right mouse button...
[02:48] <Lore1> true
[02:48] <no0tic> psykidellic, it searches for xml files that contain the word "text"
[02:48] <prappl93> Bucketface, I was trying to over-write all partitions, and it messed up the Grub loader for Kubuntu
[02:48] <psykidellic> no0tic, yeah i know. I was thinking there would be a more easy way instead of 2 pipes!
[02:49] <sFEARs> prappl93, sudo fdisk -l will list your current partitions
[02:49] <no0tic> psykidellic, try grep text *.xml in directory/
[02:49] <airtonix> who has : gutsy, an ati 9600 rv350 card and bigdesktop
[02:49] <prappl93> sFEARS, now what
[02:50] <sFEARs> what are you trying to do?
[02:50] <no0tic> psykidellic, only if they are in that dir (even subdirs I think)
[02:50] <prappl93> I am installing Ubuntu, and it gets about half done and it crashes because a file on the disc is messed up, and it is too late to go back to my other version of Linux because it overwrote too much of it and will not load
[02:51] <airtonix> prappl93: then you need to burn it again
[02:51] <sFEARs> yeah
[02:51] <sFEARs> not much you can do at this point
[02:51] <prappl93> airtonix: it is impossible seeing as I am using a LiveCD right now and cannot boot to the main
[02:51] <Lore1> actually you know the LiveCD creates a ramdisk and runs from that.
[02:52] <sFEARs> you can burn off the liveCD can't you?
[02:52] <airtonix> prappl93: use another computer, and in future use the test disc upon boot before proceeding with install
[02:52] <airtonix> no
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> prappl93: dont mean to interrupt..
[02:52] <sFEARs> ohh.. crappy
[02:52] <airtonix> not without a whole lot of stuffing around
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> !cups
[02:52] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:52] <Lore1> i think it'd be possible to download a new iso to the ramdisk and burn it onto the live cd wouldn't it?
[02:52] <airtonix> yes
[02:53] <sFEARs> i thought liveCD had full functionality
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> prappl93: did your formatting include deleting partitions that were on the drive ahead of ubuntu.. and the drive letter designation changed.. you may have only lost grub
[02:53] <chuckf> Lore1, with lots of ram, yes
[02:53] <airtonix> you thought wrong
[02:53] <sFEARs> it happens
[02:53] <airtonix> its how we learn..all good
[02:53] <jack`> how do i change the active window in knoppix default irc
[02:54] <Lore1> I've done it once but then my machine also sports 4gb of ram.
[02:54] <Lore1> you get it all running condoulo?
[02:54] <prappl93> Who's idea was it to try the iso thing?
[02:54] <Condoulo> Lore1- Nope. Not yet.
[02:54] <jack`> > I've done it once but then my machine also sports 4gb of ram.
[02:54] <jack`> 21:54 -!- Condoulo [n=Condoulo@74-138-42-17.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu
[02:55] <jack`> woops
[02:55] <sFEARs> Condoulo, try creating another user and logging in and try to print.. you can see if the issue is local to your user
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> prappl93: did you do the self test on the cd before trying to install it to your hard drive?
[02:55] <airtonix> if you had a second cd drive that burns then you could apt-get isntall brasero or sumfing
[02:55] <prappl93> Jack_Sparrow... obviously not
[02:55] <Condoulo> sFEARs- Wha. o-O
[02:55] <Silmeria> you can test it before you install o.O
[02:55] <sFEARs> log in as a different user
[02:55] <sFEARs> and try to print.. see if you get the same error
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> prappl93: No so obvious. it could be a different problem
[02:56] <atlfalcons866> !hardy
[02:56] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:56] <Condoulo> I'm trying to fix GRUB, not print. o-O
[02:56] <Lore1> condoulo was working on getting his grub working, think it was someone else that had the print problem
[02:56] <airtonix> prappl93: can you put a burner in the machine your live botting on?
[02:56] <prappl93> Airtonix: laptop
[02:56] <sFEARs> ohhh yeah.. my bad
[02:56] <prappl93> Could I read the iso file without it being on a disc?
[02:57] <sFEARs> did that grub how to list how to figure out the physical location of the hard drive??
[02:57] <jack`> my grub is broken too, because my old master drive died and the grub config needs edited i think?
[02:57] <airtonix> prappl93: got any usb drives? thunb drive? mayube download a small linux live and boot from usb then use laptop burner there?
[02:57] <prappl93> Can you read the iso file to install it without it on a CD?
[02:57] <Silmeria> you can test it before you install o.O?
[02:57] <Silmeria> whoops
[02:58] <jack`> how do i edit grub to not care about the old 40gb being there
[02:58] <sFEARs> Automagic Kernels List check out that part... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto?highlight=%28gru%29
[02:58] <Silmeria> all i need is a '/' partition and a '/home' partition for ubuntu manual install, right?
[02:58] <eliasz> hey guys, just wondering why my spell checking in OOffice on 7.10 isn't working out of the box?
[02:58] <eliasz> do i need a lib?
[02:58] <sFEARs> Silmeria.. you also need a /swap
[02:59] <airtonix> Silmeria: when isntalling I put my system on / to a 8gb-10gb partition the n I put my /home to a partition of the rest of the drive space
[02:59] <airtonix> yeah and I usually put the sawp partition as the first partition
[02:59] <airtonix> eliasz: sudo apt-cache search open-office
[02:59] <Condoulo> I made an Entry in grub for windows XP, put in the hard drive root, and partition. o-o Still XP won't boot, and GRUB won't show a list.
[02:59] <Silmeria> so
[02:59] <Silmeria> i need
[02:59] <airtonix> eliasz: or other some such package name
[03:00] <Silmeria> three partitions?
[03:00] <Silmeria> or does '/home' count as '/'?
[03:00] <airtonix> Silmeria: ideally
[03:00] <Silmeria> @_@
[03:00] <Silmeria> i used to know this stuff ><
[03:00] <airtonix> Silmeria: then you can fresh install over / partition with nerw veriosn and keep all your home files
[03:00] <Silmeria> ah ok... isnt there a max size u need to make swap?
[03:00] <Silmeria> like any bigger would be stupid?
[03:00] <airtonix> Silmeria: which prevent you from having to setup everything again
[03:01] <eliasz> airtonix, that give tones of results....any suggestions to narrow the search
[03:01] <airtonix> Silmeria: yes there is a limit for diminshing returns
[03:01] <airtonix> eliasz: it was a suggestion
[03:01] <Silmeria> what was that limit again...
[03:01] <airtonix> eliasz: I suggest you search through it
[03:01] <Silmeria> >.>
[03:01] <Silmeria> isnt it like... over 2 gb is useless
[03:01] <Silmeria> or something..
[03:01] <Silmeria> or maybe thats '/'.... GAH
[03:01] <airtonix> Silmeria: my assumption is that anything mor than double your real ram is too much
[03:01] <eliasz> ok, airtonix thanks :D
[03:02] <Silmeria> ah ok so 2gb it is
[03:02] <Silmeria> 2g swap and how much would be logical for '/'? i know to just put whatevers left in /home?
[03:02] <airtonix> eliasz: the https://help.ubuntu.community site is good
[03:02] <sFEARs> more than 2 gigs of swap proally doesn't do much.. large swap helps mostly with recovering from hibernation
[03:02] <Silmeria> aaahhhh...
[03:02] <airtonix> yeah I only have mine set at around 1gb....im not even sure if that s good
[03:02] <jack`> FloodBot1, that doesnt sound like a good name
[03:02] <airtonix> and I have 1gb of ram
[03:03] <Silmeria> airtonix, your swap or '/'?
[03:03] <airtonix> swap
[03:03] <Silmeria> i also have 1g ram
[03:03] <Silmeria> for now
[03:03] <regeya> by all means, jack`, carry on a conversation with the bot ;->
[03:03] <eliasz> hmmm, the myspell package for en-gb is already there...bah, ill run it through google docs after i finish. No time now to fix. Ill take a sollutions if anyone has one :)
[03:03] <Silmeria> Lol
[03:03] <regeya> anyone here have an everex laptop?  just curious to see what y'all think of 'em.
[03:04] <Silmeria> airtonix, how big is your '/' and '/home', or is asking that redundant?
[03:04] <airtonix>  No group of professionals meets except to conspire against the public at large. 		-- Mark Twain
[03:04] <sFEARs> cheers to that airtonix
[03:04] <jack`> i would like to carry on a conversation with someone who knows how to fix my grub, since my old master drive died
[03:04] <Silmeria> brb
[03:05] <jack`> when i boot it just says "Error detecting operating system"
[03:05] <phrantik> uh oh
[03:05] <Sajes> !grub | jack`
[03:05] <ubotu> jack`: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:05] <airtonix> my partitions are as follows : /swap 1gb,  / 10gb, /home 40gb
[03:05] <T70K5> I'd like to finish the conversation I started yesterday with someone in here about enabling desktop effects with an ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 series
[03:05] <change> Is there a good site out there or anyone have a good site to where I can learn how to better my skills in souce compiling?
[03:05] <change> source*\
[03:06] <Lore1> has anyone noticed any problems with the gutsy installer and sata drives?
[03:06] <jack`> i didn't install windows, i lost a hard drive
[03:06] <airtonix> lol I got my website setup with fortune feeding it qoutes into the siteheader
[03:06] <airtonix> Lore1: pata controller?
[03:06] <airtonix> Lore1: sorry ph6 or something? bugged since long time it is
[03:06] <craine> hi all can anyone tell me one best program to test your Internet connection speed
[03:07] <T70K5> www.dslreports.com
[03:07] <airtonix> craine: wget a remote file and monitor it with jnettop
[03:07] <destiney> change: there's a gcc - the complete reference, check amazon or where ever
[03:07] <Lore1> I was just noticing last night that i had to disconnect all but the sata drive to prevent the installer from formatting all devices at the end of setup regardless of manual override.
[03:07] <change> destiney, thanks
[03:07] <airtonix> Lore1: sorry no idea
[03:08] <hal9k2010> hello all
[03:08] <phrantik> hi'
[03:08] <craine> airtonix: jnettop
[03:08] <Silmeria> this prolly isnt the place but how can i install XP when the install tells me "setup cant detect any hard disks on your system"
[03:08] <airtonix> !jnettop | craine
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jnettop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <kidbuntu> help please.. i'm getting anoyed with this eog error in my terminal.. couldnt fix it with -f install and dpkg --config
[03:08] <sFEARs> i would say you can't Silmeria
[03:09] <kidbuntu> E: eog: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:09] <airtonix> jnettop - View hosts/ports taking up the most network traffic
[03:09] <Lore1> if your bios isn't detecting the hard disk devices you can't silmeria
[03:09] <sFEARs> i wonder why it can't detect a hard drive
[03:09] <Silmeria> i google`d and it said
[03:09] <Silmeria> something about SATA drivers
[03:09] <Silmeria> so i tried tinyXP
[03:09] <Silmeria> rev 05
[03:09] <airtonix> craine: its bascially top for netowork instead of cpu
[03:09] <Silmeria> wiht the sata drivers
[03:10] <airtonix> craine: or try ntop
[03:10] <Silmeria> nvm, about ubuntu, is 7.10 much differnet than 7.04?
[03:10] <craine> airtonix: thanks so i'll just go apt-get install ntop
[03:10] <Silmeria> i dont want to change since i KNOW 7.04 works...
[03:10] <airtonix> craine: or there is a bandwidthd for usage over time
[03:10] <airtonix> craine: you might need multiverse repos
[03:11] <Lore1> the upgrade tool doesn't seem to work properly for migration from 7.04 to 7.10. I'm getting a fetch error
[03:11] <airtonix> http://jnettop.kubs.info/wiki/
[03:11] <jarrod_> whats the cmd for making a symlink?
[03:11] <Silmeria> im scared of 7.10 from all the people in here :< i think ill just go with 7.04
[03:11] <sFEARs> Lorel.. have you done all the upgrade first.. you can't always just jump into distro upgrade
[03:12] <airtonix> Silmeria: you have better luck getting bigdesktop going at least
[03:12] <Silmeria> airtonix,  have no clue what that means
[03:12] <robdig> jarrod_: ln -s name-of-symlink path-to-target
[03:12] <destiney> Silmeria: I got a newer dell at my work, and tons of stuff got "fixed" when I upgraded to 7.10.. missing drivers, got compiz working with my ati, sound is stereo not mono anymore.  got one little gdm bug to resolve still but that's worth it to me
[03:12] <kidbuntu> E: eog: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:12] <kidbuntu> E: eog: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:12] <kidbuntu> help please.. i'm getting anoyed with this eog error in my terminal.. couldnt fix it with -f install and dpkg --config
[03:12] <craine> airtonix: what is a multiverse repos
[03:13] <robdig> kidbuntu: what are you installing?
[03:13] <Silmeria> 7.04 worked with my crappy HP
[03:13] <Silmeria> so im pretty sure it will work with this VAIO
[03:13] <Silmeria> someone said there is a test thing you can do before install?
[03:13] <Silmeria> is this to check combatibility?
[03:13] <sFEARs> there're proally not much hardware wise you can buy in the U.S.A. that won't work with major distros of linux
[03:13] <kidbuntu> robdig: actually i forgot already.. i can still install other application and other updates.. but after the installation there is always a last message that just i posted
[03:13] <Silmeria> heh i agree they are good at that
[03:14] <Silmeria> so what about this '/' '/home' thing
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> TEH INTERNETS! OMF!
[03:14] <robdig> kidbuntu: so this is the last thing you see after apt-get?
[03:14] <Silmeria> how big should each be :<
[03:15] <robdig> kidbuntu: sb apt-get install
[03:15] <kidbuntu> robdig: yes. whether i use the terminal or the gui itself
[03:15] <asdf> hi, got a problem when i start the computer .. got error message; Failed starting the Operating System
[03:15] <kidbuntu> robdig: whats the "sb"?
[03:15] <sFEARs> what did you do diffferent that caused that error asdf?
[03:15] <Lore1> /home is where the user profiles are stored similar to the Documents and Settings/Administrator/Desktop on windows xp silmeria
[03:15] <robdig> kidbuntu: should be
[03:16] <kidbuntu> ok
[03:16] <kidbuntu> robdig: yes.. even with apt get install
[03:16] <Silmeria> yay thank you :> so /home doesnt need to be THAT big
[03:16] <kidbuntu> even with sudo apt-get -f install
[03:16] <Silmeria> / needs to be bigger
[03:16] <asdf> nothing , just when i started the computer the message came
[03:16] <kidbuntu> robdig: the error message keeps on popping up
[03:16] <saurdo> how come I can't figure out my root password?
[03:16] <Silmeria> so / is like the C drive then... duh...
[03:16]  * Silmeria fail
[03:17] <jacob> anybody here uses BMP player?
[03:17] <Lore1> Silmeria: well linux is a bit different from windows in that all hard drives follow a directory structure tree starting from /
[03:17] <Silmeria> yea i remember some of it i just wasnt making the connection, thanks
[03:17] <saurdo> is there a default ubuntu root password?
[03:17] <robdig> kidbuntu: hmm, don't know if it will help, but let me look at something
[03:17] <kidbuntu> robdig: and i frequently get the message failed to initialize HAL i have to restart the computer 1 or twice and get a luck to run the ubuntu correctly and connect to the internet
[03:17] <jacob> i'm having problems importing all my music in a folder with BMP
[03:17] <phrantik> same as user password
[03:17] <kidbuntu> !pastebin
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:17] <airtonix> craine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories?action=show&redirect=Multiverse
[03:17] <CochiseIRL> saurdo, your root password is you user pasword
[03:18] <mrpockets> I've got my sound working, but it doesnt play from an Internet site
[03:18] <kidbuntu> robdig: i'll paste the whole thing
[03:18] <saurdo> That doesn't seem to be working
[03:18] <Lore1> mrpockets: what kind of plugin are you trying to use to play the song?
[03:18] <Silmeria> Lore1, so i can set aside like 3gig for /home or would that be rediculously huge?
[03:18] <naelr> silmeria my home is 100 gigs
[03:18] <Silmeria> o.O
[03:18] <Silmeria> nice lol
[03:18] <Silmeria> thats about my whole hd >>
[03:18] <kahrytan> all it does it print same classified page over and over and over again
[03:19] <mrpockets> Youtube.
[03:19] <kidbuntu> robdig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45965/
[03:19] <sFEARs> kahrytan.. have you tried logging in as a different user?
[03:19] <Silmeria> so /home gets more use than /?
[03:19] <naelr> home is where you store all your files... root can be like 10-20 gigs that should be more then enough if that is what your looking for
[03:19] <fortify> hey all i went to places connect to network then ftp. now everytime i reboot my comptuer it mounts itsself on my desktop. how do i remove this?
[03:19] <CochiseIRL> Silmeria, if /home is a different partition remember all your music etc will be stored in the home partiton, so 3gigs wouldnt be much for it then.
[03:19] <airtonix> saurdo: you only have aroot password (which is your user password) if you are the first uesr ....otehr sie you have to be added to the sudo list
[03:19] <Lore1> the way i've got mine setup is 10gb for root and then I mount a data partition in /media
[03:19] <Silmeria> ill just be doing stuff like mysql, php more web stuff blah blah
[03:19] <naelr> Silmeria yea your files will probably take up more room then the installed software
[03:19] <CochiseIRL> Silmeria, use around 10gigs for / and the rest for /home
[03:19] <mrpockets> lorel Im using Youtube
[03:19] <T70K5> Can I ask a question? What does a swap partition do exactly? Is it similar to the Page File in Windows?
[03:19] <naelr> Silmeria: go for 20 gigs
[03:19] <nightdragon> TITTIES! I LOVE EM! WOOT!
[03:20] <CochiseIRL> T70K5, yup
[03:20] <Nwallins|home> what multi-head gfx card have the best ubuntu support?
[03:20]  * Silmeria confused
[03:20] <airtonix> Silmeria: home is the same as windows document & settings folder
[03:20] <Lore1> so the sound won't play when you use your flash player?
[03:20] <regeya> !offtopic
[03:20] <kidbuntu> nightdragon: yeah yeah.. everyone does
[03:20] <T70K5> and the maximum you should allocate is 2x the MB/GB of ram you have, correct?
[03:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:20] <MrPockets> right
[03:20] <robdig> kidbuntu: yuck, HAL is the hardware abstraction layer...i know it exists but i don't know anything about it
[03:20] <MrPockets> lorel correct
[03:20] <Silmeria> wut this is about ubuntu :(
[03:20] <T70K5> and it is mount point / ?
[03:20] <sethk> T70K5, there is no longer any relationship between swap and physical memory
[03:20] <regeya> HAL, open the pod bay doors.
[03:20] <airtonix> Silmeria: so if you put the /home folder on a antoher physical drive or partition....all the user accounts you make will go under that folder...protected of course
[03:21] <T70K5> explain it to me plz
[03:21] <sethk> T70K5, in many cases you don't need any swap at all.
[03:21] <Lore1> mrpockets: how do you have your sound setup atm, are you using OSS or ALSA?
[03:21] <robdig> kidbuntu: on the other hand eog is eye of gnome, you might try uninstalling eog...sudo apt-get remove eog or something
[03:21] <kidbuntu> robdig: ok... then how about with the eog error thing
[03:21] <MrPockets> alsa
[03:21] <Silmeria> ok then ill do 15g for both. that work?
[03:21] <regeya> eye of gnome...way more intuitive a name than anything the kompetition can throw at it
[03:21] <kidbuntu> robdig: ok.. didnt know it was eye of gnome
[03:21] <airtonix> Silmeria: I wouldn't
[03:21] <sethk> T70K5, and the idea that swap is somehow limited by a ratio to main memory is 30 years old and 15 years outdated
[03:21] <Silmeria> airtonix, =o
[03:21] <airtonix> Silmeria: like I said before
[03:21] <kidbuntu> robdig: let me try to uninstall
[03:21] <airtonix> Silmeria: 10g for '/' , 1g for swap, rest of space for /home
[03:21] <T70K5> ok, I misinterpreted what I read earlier and was thinking something else
[03:22] <sethk> T70K5, today, memory is cheap and disk is cheap.  Make enough swap so you never need to worry about running out of memory
[03:22] <joules> hey
[03:22] <joules> im  trying to use my bluetooth dongle
[03:22] <joules> so i connect it and the bluetooth icon comes up it finds cellphone and all the stuff but when i try to connect it gives me that---> "obex://[00:13:17:87:22:c8]" is not a valid location
[03:22] <fortify> anyone got time to answer my question plz?
[03:22] <sethk> T70K5, perhaps not, people still quote that "twice as much as memory" idea.
[03:22] <sFEARs> fortify?
[03:22] <Lore1> mrpockets: you might try checking this thread out --http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=516706
[03:22] <airtonix> sethk: show me a cheap motherboard that supports 10gb of ram
[03:22] <T70K5> ok
[03:22] <regeya> !ask | fortify
[03:22] <Silmeria> airtonix, thanks. i think ill do that.
[03:22] <ubotu> fortify: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:22] <UstasW> Hi
[03:22] <UstasW> tell me
[03:22] <sethk> airtonix, I don't need to.  What I'm saying is that the limitation of main memory size does _not_ limit swap
[03:23] <sethk> airtonix, there is a new technique called switched memory
[03:23] <airtonix> sethk:L stupid challnege I know but you need to explain why we don't need a swap
[03:23] <regeya> what the heck is up with these floodbots
[03:23] <sethk> airtonix, I didn't say that.  I said that in many cases you may not need swap
[03:23] <kidbuntu> robdig: why is it there is also a message somewhat written in latin?
[03:23] <airtonix> sethk: like server?
[03:23] <threeseas> Does installing a localhost (for dev and experimentation) on a desktop slow down connecting to the internet as you would on the desktop without the LAMP?
[03:23] <joules> .... anyone familiar with bluetooth?
[03:23] <fortify> i did already
[03:23] <Nwallins|home> what multihead gfx card has the best linux support?
[03:23] <sethk> airtonix, sure, that's one.  Generally depends on what you run, how many people are typically logged in, processes running, etc., etc.
[03:24] <airtonix> threeseas: you question doesn't make sencse. since your mahine is alrady localhost being anetowrk device
[03:24] <CochiseIRL> joules, whats up?
[03:24] <regeya> fortify: since I'm far too lazy to check on that, then no, I don't have time to help.
[03:24] <airtonix> Nwallins|home: not ati
[03:24] <sethk> airtonix, there is a new technology called switched memory which will eliminate the memory on motherboard limitation
[03:24] <axisys> !restrict
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrict - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <axisys> !restricted
[03:24] <linux88> Ok. So I am trying to install xchat form source and it is asking for glib 2.3.0 but gutsy comes with 2.0-0. why such a later version and how do i install the latests version. sence glib is a dependency for many things.
[03:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:24] <robdig> kidbuntu: i think that is spanish, looks like it might be related to eog...but then again...
[03:24] <sethk> airtonix, right now, though, it's only used in the high end server market and it's very expensive.
[03:24] <Lore1> Nwallins|home i'm not sure what you mean by multihead, but i believe Nvidia has better driver support atm in linux than ati. I could be wrong though.
[03:25] <Silmeria> i was only asking cause im going to make a new volume for it in xp and install it on that
[03:25] <sethk> airtonix, it's essence is that it talks to memory over an expandable bus.
[03:25] <airtonix> sethk: as per usual
[03:25] <fortify> i opened up a ftp connection VIA (places, connect to service,) and now eveytime i reboot it auto mounts a link to that connection on my desktop.. how do i stop that?
[03:25] <joules> CochiseIRL: ok so i plug the bluetooth dongle in and see my cellphone but when i hit connect it says something like
[03:25] <Silmeria> well, make it unallocated but w/e
[03:25] <airtonix> sethk: oooo nice...dedicated channel
[03:25] <sethk> airtonix, right, but the technology comes down in cost and will eventually make it to the desktop
[03:25] <kidbuntu> robdig: sorry.. yes it was spanish
[03:25] <sFEARs> edit your /etc/fstab file fortify
[03:25] <fortify> ty
[03:25] <regeya> wheee!  apparently dma is enabled on this box, but dang if this isn't running dog slow
[03:25] <kidbuntu> robdig: got it fixed..
[03:25] <sFEARs> yup
[03:25] <jack`> i can't save my changes to devices.map in /grub because i dont have access to the filesystem, even though i'm running pico as root
[03:25] <sFEARs> make sure you use root access
[03:25] <airtonix> sethk: so this would speed up the stuff that used to happen over the intterupt lines?
[03:25] <sethk> airtonix, yes.  the one I studied created a bus similar to PCI express in concept, but much higher in performance.
[03:26] <Ma1> what is the command to check the rendering
[03:26] <sethk> airtonix, yes, exactly.
[03:26] <joules> CochiseIRL: "obex://[00:1a:db:09:54:d1]" is not a valid location.
[03:26] <robdig> kidbuntu: great...hope someone can help you with hal...
[03:26] <airtonix> very nice
[03:26] <regeya> fortify:  I think all you have to do is toss the item into the trash that's on your desktop.
[03:26] <abcent> Hi Guys/Ladies, I've installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my sons (winXP machine), i let ubuntu create partition... Problem is i don't appear to have rights to install anything .... saying something about i386 bla bla ... is there a fix for this.... i'm also a linux newbee
[03:26] <jack`> what do i have to chmod or whatever to get access to devices.map
[03:26] <kidbuntu> robdig: could it be a hardware defect?
[03:26] <threeseas> airtonix: I don't know, its just that my system seems a bit slower with internet flow than it did before I set up a localhost LAMP
[03:26] <sFEARs> if it's in fstab it will remount when he reboots
[03:26] <airtonix> threeseas: what did you sintall exactly
[03:26] <sethk> abcent, start the package manager this way:    sudo synaptic
[03:26] <robdig> kidbuntu: i really don't know...suppose it is possible
[03:26] <Silmeria> sigh... i wish i could have XP and ubuntu, not vista and ubuntu -_-
[03:26] <sethk> abcent, that will give the package manager admin privileges
[03:27] <fortify> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:27] <fortify> #
[03:27] <fortify> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:27] <fortify> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:27] <fortify> # /dev/hda1
[03:27] <fortify> UUID=cab138c3-dd72-4797-a4cf-2b5b754d6353 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:27] <fortify> # /dev/hda2
[03:27] <kidbuntu> robdig: and sometimes when turning on my computer... i couldnt connect to the internet using ubuntu.. after restarting and booting to windows.. my net works fine
[03:27]  * regeya is using a hand-me-down...should check to see what the bus speed is on the builtin controller...
[03:27] <Lore1> abcent: to install stuff in ubuntu you often need to use a command called sudo which gives you superuser permissions temporarily, the password is typically set during installation.
[03:27] <fortify> UUID=1fc32d23-7349-4bfe-a2f8-ade04f1e534f none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:27] <fortify> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[03:27] <fortify> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec 0       0
[03:27] <bazhang> pastebin fortify
[03:27] <sethk> abcent, same with apt-get, or any of the various package management CLI and GUI utilities
[03:27] <fortify> tmpfs     /dev/shm     tmpfs     defaults,ro     0     0
[03:27] <Lore1> !pastebin
[03:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:27] <Silmeria> uhhh... lol..
[03:27] <abcent> thank you
[03:27] <joules> CochiseIRL: ?
[03:27] <fortify> i take it the 2 UUID entries have to go?
[03:27] <sFEARs> fortify use pastebin
[03:27] <airtonix> fortify: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:27] <regeya> !
[03:27] <Ma1> pike_:how to i check the rendering ?
[03:27] <regeya> fortify!
[03:27] <CochiseIRL> joules, i think it looks like your phone or pc dont support obex probably your pc so open synaptic and search for obex and there should be an obex bluetooth utility in there i've seen it before
[03:27] <robdig> kidbuntu: on the network, it works sometimes and not others?
[03:27] <regeya> fortify: why do you want to do away with the entries for root and swap partitions???
[03:28] <Silmeria> time to go. thanks for the help airtonix
[03:28] <airtonix> Silmeria: np
[03:28] <threeseas> airtonix: apache, mysql and php along with apps like phpmyadmin, but set up for localhost only
[03:28] <Lore1> Anyone know how to disable file thumbnails on the desktop?
[03:28] <sFEARs> not sure Lorel
[03:28] <airtonix> and whatsites  feel slower
[03:28] <robdig> kidbuntu: wired or wireless?
[03:28] <kidbuntu> robdig: wireless
[03:28] <airtonix> threeseas: al sites or some?
[03:29] <Ma1> sFEARs:how do i check the rendering ?
[03:29] <kidbuntu> robdig: i mean wired network connection
[03:29] <tony1> I've got an ITE 8212 RAID adapter as additional storage - anyone know how I might use it in 7.10 (x86, for now [vs 64])?
[03:29] <fortify> i dont i just want the damn ftp sit to stop adding its self to my desktop
[03:29] <fortify> lol
[03:29] <airtonix> threeseas: have you loaded any CMS's or dbases or are you running cronjobs that retireve rss feeds?>
[03:30] <airtonix> fortify: open gconf
[03:30] <sFEARs> not sure mal.. i'm don't quite understand what you mean by rendering
[03:30] <pteague> tony1> software raid?
[03:30] <command0-182> I'm need to convert a .rpm file to a .deb file
[03:30] <airtonix> fortify: hangon..it involves messing with gconf
[03:30] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, do you mean 3d rendering?
[03:30] <axisys> !realplayer
[03:30] <robdig> kidbuntu: i haven't heard of intermittent wired connection...
[03:30] <threeseas> airtonix: in general, and I do have a dbase for wordpress on local host
[03:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <Ma1> sFEARs:to check to see if the 3D is working now
[03:30] <DShepherd> !alien | command0-182
[03:30] <ubotu> command0-182: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:30] <MrPockets> lorel that did nothing :0-\
[03:30] <linux88> Does anyone have an answer to why Ubuntu 7.10 comes with the version of glib2.0-0 and not a newer version?
[03:30] <Ma1> CochiseIRL:yes
[03:30] <sFEARs> CochiseIRL, mabey you can help
[03:30] <tony1> pteague: it's HW RAID, as far as I know
[03:30] <airtonix> fortify: press alt+f2
[03:30] <CochiseIRL> glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:30] <airtonix> fortify: type gconf-editor
[03:30] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:30] <tony1> pteague: it's a plug-in adapter
[03:31] <genii> !info glib gutsy
[03:31] <ubotu> Package glib does not exist in gutsy
[03:31] <regeya> aaaaaaaaah!
[03:31] <axisys> hmm.. I installed `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[03:31] <Lore1> hmm
[03:31] <genii> !info glib2 gutsy
[03:31] <ubotu> Package glib2 does not exist in gutsy
[03:31] <axisys> but ff still says u need realplayer
[03:31] <pteague> tony1> pci?
[03:31] <airtonix> got to : apps -> nautilus
[03:31]  * genii ruminates
[03:31] <tony1> pteague: yup
[03:31] <Lore1> mrpockets: are you using firefox for your browser atm?
[03:31] <airtonix> fortify: the ndesktop
[03:31] <MrPockets> yessah
[03:31] <joules> CochiseIRL: i have connected both these on windows and they worked
[03:31] <Ma1> ahahahahahah finally the 3d work yesyes yes
[03:31] <pteague> tony1> how much is it new?
[03:31] <sFEARs> haha
[03:31] <airtonix> fortify: then untick volumes visible
[03:31] <command0-182> I have the alien package, but I have one problem. When I convert a .rpm file I don't know where the .deb is. Where does Alien put your .deb files
[03:31] <airtonix> done
[03:31] <Ma1> CochiseIRL:thank you
[03:31] <airtonix> seeyas
[03:32] <CochiseIRL> joules, you have to install obex on ubuntu
[03:32] <robdig> !botsnack
[03:32] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:32] <Lore1> mrpockets: what version of the flash player are you running right now?
[03:32] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, your welcome.
[03:32] <MrPockets> newest i believe.
[03:32] <MrPockets> Just downloaded and pdated it
[03:32] <Ma1> CochiseIRL:but 1 more thing my system crash how to i default it ?
[03:32] <command0-182> I have the alien package, but I have one problem. When I convert a .rpm file I don't know where the .deb is. Where does Alien put your .deb files?
[03:32] <joules> CochiseIRL: there are a few applications that come up under obex.. do you know which one?
[03:32] <taron> !universe
[03:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:32] <CochiseIRL> joules, i'll check one sec
[03:32] <IdleOne> command0-182: do a locate filename.deb
[03:33] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, what do you mean?
[03:33] <saurdo> I am having a problem altering my grub menu.lst
[03:33] <Lore1> are you using 7.10 or 7.04 ubuntu?
[03:33] <MrPockets> 7.10
[03:33] <tony1> pteague - it was cheap, but it's PATA - replaced one that was on dead MB, have SATA controller on this one, but I'd like to see the data in Ubuntu, and not just the XP side ...
[03:33] <gino> hi!!!!!
[03:33] <Ma1> CochiseIRL:when i restart the pc is does not bring back to logon screen it just restart by it self
[03:33] <saurdo> does anyone know how I can gain the permissions to edit my grub menu.lst?
[03:33] <Lore1> ok gimme a couple minutes i'll see if i can't find something
[03:33] <Pars2> i installed JCal is a UNIX-cal-like tool to display Jalali (Persian) calendar from Synaptic, but i use it, i don't know how to!
[03:33] <gavin__> hi
[03:34] <usser> saurdo, use gksu
[03:34] <blackfox> ubuntu can use yahoo masanger?
[03:34] <command0-182> How do I locate a file?
[03:34] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, what gpu have you?
[03:34] <saurdo> usser, eh?
[03:34] <gino> mydsl provider give me 160kb, but im under 110kb someone knows how to fix it!
[03:34] <usser> saurdo, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:34] <jacob> i need help installing bmpx, (got it from the original website, not from the add/remove)
[03:34] <sethk> blackfox, yes
[03:34] <Ma1> cochiseIRL:what is gpu ?
[03:34] <tony1> pteague: was a CompUSA buy, less than $50, I think
[03:34] <abcent> Hi Guys/Ladies, Is there anyway to change desktop icon sizes?
[03:34] <sethk> blackfox, gaim supports it.  probably others also
[03:34] <elvys_> hi!, somebody knows how can I install Autopackages?
[03:34] <jacob> i get this error...
[03:34] <usser> Mal, graphic proccessing unit
[03:34] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, graphics card
[03:34] <usser> Mal, video card
[03:34] <IdleOne> command0-182: in terminal type: locate filename.deb replace filename with the actual file name
[03:34] <DShepherd> elvys, double click on them ?
[03:34] <pteague> tony1> yeah, probably software raid then :(  it may say it's hardware, but most rely on the OS handling some software
[03:34] <abcent> Sorry, i'm using Ubuntu 7.10
[03:34] <jacob> configure: error: X11 headers/libraries were not found
[03:34] <CochiseIRL> joules, search for gnome bluetooth utilites and try that
[03:35] <fortify> ty all for help
[03:35] <Ma1> CochiseIRL:intel
[03:35] <DShepherd> elvys, what program are you trying to install?
[03:35] <command0-182> ok
[03:35] <saurdo> thanks, usser, it worked
[03:35] <Pars2> can i change the calendar?
[03:35] <gino> mydsl provider give me 160kb, but im under 110kb someone knows how to fix it!
[03:35] <Ma1> cochiseIRL:am just going to reinstall unbuntu
[03:35] <usser> saurdo, np just make sure to back it up first
[03:35] <qah661> Hello
[03:35] <elvys_> Autopackages
[03:35] <jacob> how do i install the x11 libraries?
[03:35] <qah661> Hello
[03:36] <CochiseIRL> Ma1, unfortunitly i've only used ATi cards under linux, try booting in recovery mode and reconfigure xorg
[03:36] <tony1> pteague: there's driver source and binary on their site, but I haven't been able to install nor built it, yet - rmraid says it cannot see it ...
[03:36] <qah661> I have a question about Ubuntu. Can someone help me with it?
[03:36] <elvys_> I downloaded a lot prgrams for this, but I don't know to use it
[03:36] <CochiseIRL> qah661, whats your question
[03:36] <bazhang> ask away qah661
[03:36] <tony1> pteague: meant dmraid ...
[03:36] <joules> CochiseIRL: thats what im trying to tell you i already have that package
[03:37] <taron> how do i universe unbuntu?
[03:37] <CochiseIRL> joules, what phone?
[03:37] <joules> slvr
[03:37] <DShepherd> !repos | taron
[03:37] <ubotu> taron: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:37] <bazhang> taron: you mean the universe repo?
[03:37] <qah661> I have Windows XP on my notebook right now, and I want to keep it. I was wondering though, can I install Ubuntu on another External hard drive and still run it without Overwriting XP?
[03:37] <bazhang> qah661: yes, or you could dual boot
[03:38] <chuckf> qah661, if your laptop boots from usb, yes
[03:38] <joules> joules: motorola slvr
[03:38] <joules> and a jabra headphone
[03:38] <genii> !ask
[03:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:38] <usser> qah661,  yes in fact there are guides on the net that allow u to run ubuntu from usb dongle
[03:38] <chuckf> qah661, however data read/writes will be slower
[03:38] <qah661> Yes my laptop can boot from USB within the BIOS.
[03:38] <CochiseIRL> joules, have you tried moto4lin
[03:38] <CochiseIRL> qah661, yes you can
[03:38] <command0-182> Is there a way I can control where alien puts converted .deb files.
[03:38] <qah661> Okay, thats cool. This is my first time ever using Linux!
[03:39] <abcent> bazhang: will GRUB appear if external drive is disconnected? .... asking because i was also considering this option
[03:39] <bazhang> qah661: welcome! :}
[03:39] <sFEARs> there's proally a setting in the prefs comand0-182
[03:39] <bazhang> abcent: depends where you install it
[03:39] <elvys_> I've downloaded several packages for Autopackages, but I don't know how can use it
[03:39] <DShepherd> !dualboot | qah661
[03:39] <ubotu> qah661: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:39] <abcent> bazhang: relating to qah661 question
[03:39] <qah661> Can you install Microsoft Internet Explorer on Linux by any chance?
[03:39] <offipso> I'm trying to configure dhcpd.conf but I get an error that one of my subnets isn't declared. I don't want to run a DHCP server on this subnet, however. How can I satisfy dhcpd so that it runs on one subnet but not both?
[03:40] <pteague> tony1> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[03:40] <chuckf> abcent, if you install grub to your main drive, you may have a problem booting if the external drive is not attached
[03:40] <command0-182> Is there a way I can control where alien puts converted .deb files?
[03:40] <elvys_> somebody could help me
[03:40] <SudoKing> heh, qah661, yes, but why would you want to?
[03:40] <DShepherd> elvys, what's that name of the autopackage your trying to install?
[03:40] <Taggard> Hey, I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm trying to play a film and it is always tinted blue
[03:40] <SudoKing> hi taggard
[03:40] <abcent> chuckf: that clear it's up for me
[03:40] <Taggard> Does anyone know why?
[03:40] <Taggard> SudoKing: Hey
[03:40] <Taggard> SudoKing: I ditched OS X
[03:40] <abcent> chuckf: thank you
[03:40] <qah661> Well, I don't like Firefox like I do IE. So this is possible?
[03:40] <Lore1> mrpockets: you might try http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?forumid=44&catid=184&threadid=1175007&highlight_key=y&keyword1=no%20sound#4209759
[03:41] <offipso> Taggard: If you use VLC, you can go to "options / extended gui" and try hitting "reset." That might fix some tint problem, or you can change the tint there. Probably a more serious solution though
[03:41] <sethk> qah661, no
[03:41] <offipso> qah661: it is possible, but with many many headaches
[03:41] <sethk> qah661, if you really like internet explorer, you'll have to surf from windows
[03:41] <offipso> qah661: you have to emulate it using a program such as wine
[03:41] <sethk> qah661, unless you want to run it under an emulator
[03:41] <Lore1> mrpockets: there appears to be a sound problem in 7.10 with flash with some sound cards. Downgrading to flashplayer 7 may fix sound but version 7 has a synchronization problem with audio.
[03:41] <Taggard> offipso: I'm using the default media player
[03:42] <qah661> Also, what programming languages can you use to delvelop software using Linux?
[03:42] <offipso> taggard: I don't think you can change options in the player then, it's probably called Totem, which I think is the default. There is probably a way to change video settings with some tool, but I don't know
[03:42] <MrPockets> hmm
[03:42] <MrPockets> blast!
[03:42] <qah661> I mean, for linux
[03:42] <SudoKing> qah661, any
[03:42] <Taggard> offipso: What player do you recommend?
[03:42] <Taggard> offipso: VLC?
[03:42] <DShepherd> qah661, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page -- that might help
[03:42] <offipso> Taggard: VLC, definitely
[03:42] <sethk> qah661, all of them
[03:42] <SudoKing> :P
[03:42] <Taggard> offipso: In the repos?
[03:43] <sethk> qah661, c++, java, perl, python, ruby, haskell, ocaml, to name a few
[03:43] <offipso> Taggard: IT is, though I also enabled all repositories in synaptic
[03:43] <Lore1> mrpockets: you can check out the above link, that's the problem thread on adobe's website about no sound in flashplayer 9.
[03:43] <offipso> Taggard: Also you'll have a bit of trouble getting dvds to play, but it is done with a few steps
[03:43] <qah661> How about C#
[03:43] <sethk> qah661, lisp, scheme
[03:43] <tomd> Taggard, you get blue tint on other media players/platform with the same video, or is this for all videos
[03:43] <sethk> qah661, yes, you can use C#.  See the "mono" package
[03:43] <Lore1> LISP is fun to learn, all those parenthesis :)
[03:43] <Taggard> tomd: All videos with one media player, i'm trying VLC now though
[03:43] <sethk> qah661, it implements C# libraries and infrastructure for linux
[03:43] <offipso> again, anyone have experience with dhcpd? I'm trying to not have it run on all subnets like it wants to
 Dolda Connect :: 1.0
[03:44] <qah661> Okay, thanks guys. Bye
[03:44] <joules> CochiseIRL: oh that was better
[03:44] <elvys__> DShepherd Dolda Connect :: 1.0
[03:44] <joules> CochiseIRL: it still cant connect but at least it made my cell blink
[03:44] <sethk> offipso, you can limit it using the dhcpd configuration in /etc
[03:44] <elvys__> Dshepherd: Dolda Connect 1.0
[03:45] <Lore1> i was talking with someone earlier about the migration tool having fetch errors, seems the problems the same after downloading all updates and attempting to upgrade.
[03:45] <offipso> sethk, that's what I'm editing now, but can't find any help on this problem. I have to decalre the subnet, but it's a subnet on the interface connected to the internet
[03:45] <DShepherd> elvys_, stop spamming me
[03:45] <CochiseIRL> joules, there is also an app called gnome phone manager, im still trying to get my own se k610i working in ubuntu properly, bluetooth support is a joke in
[03:45] <DShepherd> elvys_, i read what said
[03:45] <djcabz> how should I fix this? Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0" ?  ATI x300 video...
[03:45] <sethk> offipso, let me look at the doc.  I've done it, but it was a while ago...
[03:45] <joules> yah
[03:45] <offipso> sethk k, thanks.. I'm still trying too
[03:45] <elvys__> OK, I'm sorry
[03:45] <tony1> pteague: thanks - y, it says it's HW, but the driver is broken in 2.6.10 and later ...
[03:46] <SudoKing> Where can I find a list of bug reports?
[03:46] <tomd> Taggard, totem->edit->preferences->display->hue .. just change the hue
[03:46] <Taggard> tomd: It works fine with VLC
[03:46] <jrib> SudoKing: bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:46] <Taggard> tomd: but its really laggy
[03:46] <tomd> Taggard, but you're bloating your system
[03:46] <Taggard> tomd: Like the framerate is low
[03:46] <DShepherd> elvys_, have you download the file doldaconnect.package?
[03:46] <SudoKing> thanks jrib
[03:46] <DShepherd> downloaed*
[03:46] <tomd> Taggard, try changing the hue in totem
[03:46] <sethk> offipso, you have already included a subnet declaration for the part you want it to serve?
[03:46] <Taggard> tomd: Okay
[03:46] <tomd> Taggard, is the frame rate slow in totem
[03:46]  * Evanlec likes to bloat his system
[03:47] <offipso> vlc isn't bloat
[03:47] <tomd> Taggard, that could be a video driver issue
[03:47] <pteague> tony1> good to hear - i might have to look it up then
[03:47] <elvys__> DShepherd: Yes, I have
[03:47] <sethk> offipso, because the way it is supposed to work, it _only_ serves the subnets you declare.
[03:47] <offipso> sethk I am, and trying to find some options that make some sort of sense.. so something like subnet (external interface IP)
[03:47] <offipso> sethk Hm, it says though that for each interface I need to decalre a subnet
[03:47] <sethk> offipso, I can paste a working example if that will help you
[03:47] <offipso> e.g., one sec, Il'l find the message
[03:47] <sethk> offipso, only if you want that interface served by dhcpd
[03:47] <DShepherd> elvys_, ok, right-click the file, choose properties. Go to the permissions tab and select Execute...
[03:47] <sethk> offipso, if you don't want it served, leave it out.
[03:48] <SudoKing> jrib: Is there one for *Kubuntu*?
[03:48] <offipso> sethk I think you're mistaken, as I don't declare it, and it says in syslog "No subnet declaration for eth0 (someip). Please write a subnet declaration for the network segment to which eth0 is attached"
[03:48] <jrib> SudoKing: same
[03:48] <offipso> sethk eth0 or anything it's connected to is not mentioned at all
[03:48] <sethk> offipso, that's a harmless message
[03:48] <jrib> SudoKing: kubuntu is ubuntu
[03:48] <Taggard> tomd: No
[03:48] <sethk> offipso, it is assuming that you may have done that by accident
[03:48] <Taggard> tomd: Well, I got the hue right for some things but then its wrong for others
[03:48] <richdy> I am running on Gutsy.  Is there any way I can get an older mysql package?  I need to run off of 4.1, but I only see 5.0 in synaptic
[03:48] <offipso> sethk So how do I explicitly tell it not to use eth0?
[03:49] <DShepherd> elvys_, now double click on doldaconnect.package and select run. you should be ok from there
[03:49] <tomd> Taggard, thats lousy
[03:49] <offipso> sethk Also, old redhat docs online say, "You must include a subnet declaration for every subnet in your network. If you do not, the DHCP server will fail to start."
[03:49] <sethk> offipso, you don't.  You simply leave that subnet out of the configuration file.
[03:49] <mociyl> offipso: look at /etc/default/dhcp ... INTERFACES="eth1"
[03:49] <tomd> Taggard, as far as slow frame rate with vlc goes, what video driver are you using in vlc
[03:49] <DShepherd> elvys_, let me know if that works for you
[03:49] <sethk> offipso, I know that's not true, I have it running here on a machine with multiple interfaces.
[03:49] <Rian-Davide> Hey can anyone point me to where I can download the broadcom drivers I need to use with ndiswrapper?
[03:49] <tomd> Taggard, output plugin, that is
[03:49] <sethk> offipso, I suppose you can add a subnet declaration that tells it to use no addresses.
[03:49] <offipso> sethk Ok, I'll look at that file, hang on..
[03:49] <Taggard> tomd: In preferences?
[03:49] <elvys__> but I don't have Autopackage Aplication
[03:50] <tomd> Taggard, you'll have to find it yourself.. id assume its in preferences
[03:50] <offipso> sethk Did try that too, though that said the IP range wasn't in the subnet..got all confused
[03:50] <DShepherd> elvys_, have you downloaded doldaconnect.package?
[03:50] <Rian-Davide> anyone know where to find broadcom drivers for ndiswrapper?
[03:50] <underdawg> what's a dummy url to phpmyadmin www.lala.com/phpmyadmin?
[03:50] <tomd> Taggard, and what video driver are you using for X, are you using hardware accel, what video card are you using etc information and I can probably help
[03:50] <Taggard> tomd: Video card ATI X1600
[03:50] <elvys__> DShepherd: I don'r have autopackage aplicattion
[03:51] <Taggard> tomd: Video driver for X is [I think] ATI
[03:51] <DShepherd> elvys_,ok but have you downloaded the doldaconnect.package file?
[03:51] <Taggard> tomd: I don't know if I'm using accel
[03:51] <tomd> Taggard, most important info is the output plugn in vlc
[03:51] <Taggard> tomd: flgrx
[03:51] <Taggard> tomd: For X
[03:51] <elvys__> Yes, I've downloaded that
[03:52] <joules> CochiseIRL: aight thanks for your help dude
[03:52] <offipso> sethk You know, I think that /etc/defaults/dhcp interfaces= helped.. Let's see if it serves me an IP
[03:52] <Taggard> tomd: I'm in VLC > Prefs > Video > Output Modules > Video Output Module and it is just "default"
[03:52] <DShepherd> elvys_, that;s all you need
[03:52] <elvys__> DShepherd: Yes, I have
[03:52] <DShepherd> elvys_, now follow my instructions and you should be fine
[03:52] <sethk> offipso, that makes sense.
[03:52] <offipso> sethk Was that in the docs and I just missed it?
[03:52] <Taggard> tomd: I changed VLC to "X Video Output" and it works great
[03:52] <elvys__> ok, I'll do it
[03:52] <sethk> offipso, I'm trying to remember.
[03:52] <mociyl> offipso: i found a webpage that mentioned it in reference to something else
[03:53] <tomd> woo hoo
[03:53] <DShepherd> elvys_, its called autopackage because it does magic!
[03:53] <offipso> mociyl: O yea? I didn't know anything about /etc/defaults/*
[03:53] <DShepherd> http://autopackage.org/faq.html?PHPSESSID=e76e5f14761b10026c4e2d628e9a2a34#1_1 -- for more info read that link elvys_
[03:53] <DShepherd> elvys_, by the way, aren't you supposed to be dead?
[03:53] <mociyl> offipso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EasyWirelessToWiredConnectionSharing here's the somewhat relevant page, if you are interested
[03:53] <sethk> offipso, the docs appear to be wrong.  it doesn't appear in the FILES section, and it most certainly should
[03:54] <elvys__> ok, I found Autopackage software installer to do it
[03:54] <Taggard> tomd: The only thing is videos see to get really pixelated when they are larger or smaller than the regular size which didnt happen in OS X
[03:54] <offipso> mociyl Definitely, thanks. I'm still tryign to get it to send me DNS info, but it serves a good IP and a good gateway ip!!
[03:54] <offipso> thanks for the help, sethk
[03:54] <mikebot> I'm trying to format a flash drive (vfat), how can I do this?
[03:54] <gavin__> Anybody: how do i speed up my downloads over gprs
[03:54] <DShepherd> elvys_, ok, suit yourself
[03:54] <tomd> Taggard, try using the open gl driver
[03:54] <Adriana> out of curiosity can you enable the backspace button to work as the back button in your web browser and if so how o.o
[03:54] <Taggard> tomd: For X?
[03:54] <tomd> Taggard, for vlc
[03:54] <Taggard> tomd: Ah, yes
[03:55] <elvys__> DShepherd: Thank you anyway
[03:55] <tomd> Taggard, I know mplayer better.. i am just applying my knowledge from that
[03:55] <DShepherd> elvys_, sure.
[03:55] <Taggard> tomd: This also happens in totem btw
[03:55] <tomd> Taggard, you might need to tweak the soundcard up and stuff..
[03:55] <djcabz> where would I modify     'DISPLAY=:0 glxinfo'    What config file is that in?
[03:55] <tomd> Taggard, look up ubuntu <your vid card> on google to see ift heres a tutorial for tweaking it or something
[03:55] <tomd> s/sound/vid/
[03:55] <Adriana> pleas for the love of all things good is there a way to make the backspace button the back button for web browsers?
[03:56] <Taggard> tomd: I'm using an iMac too (random info)
[03:56] <tomd> Taggard, crazy
[03:56] <Evanlec> an imac, oh my
[03:56]  * tomd had gentoo on an ibook, but it got jacked
[03:56] <mikebot> I'm trying to format a flash drive (vfat), how can I do this? (In GParted the device is locked...)
[03:56] <gnutron> Adriana - not that i know of, alt-left-arrow works.
[03:56] <sethk> offipso, actually, the docs aren't exactly wrong.  It uses /etc/default/interfaces because the startup script reads it, not dhcpd itself
[03:56] <sethk> offipso, see /etc/init.d/dhcp
[03:56] <Taggard> tomd: OpenGL worked, thanks
[03:56] <tomd> np
[03:56] <Taggard> I forgot why I liked Ubuntu
[03:56] <Taggard> Everyone is so friendly
[03:57] <bazhang> so true
[03:57] <Taggard> In ##mac your lucky if you get a response in an hour
[03:57] <Adriana> bah backspace would be so much easier o.o
[03:57] <sethk> Taggard, I hate everybody
[03:57] <offipso> Taggard, Wait until we become old and burned out linux users, when we criticize new users to the OS and claim that we were never like that when we started
[03:57] <offipso> IN MY DAY, We had to compile our kernel OURSELVES and we were HAPPY about it
[03:57] <Taggard> I used to be quite good at this lunix stuff
[03:57] <Taggard> Until I got a Mac :(
[03:57] <DShepherd> Adriana, i used <Alt>+left key for back and <Alt>+right arrow key for forward. that doesnt solve you problem though
[03:58] <sethk> offipso, I used to walk 20 miles in a blizzard to compile my kernel.
[03:58] <Evanlec> lol
[03:58] <bazhang> both ways
[03:58] <Palomides> uphill
[03:58] <offipso> sethk Damn. That's hxc
[03:58] <DG19075> ...and we did it all command line...NO GUI :)
[03:58] <Taggard> tomd: So, how do I change my default video player to VLC?
[03:58] <tomd> sethk: i used to compile my kernel on a turing machine
[03:58] <sethk> got frostbite all the time    :)
[03:58] <sethk> tomd, now, that's torture  :)
[03:59] <Palomides> you had to watch out for the ravenous ice-wolves too
[03:59] <offipso> HOORAY! DHCP is serving
[03:59] <offipso> thanks again, sethk
[03:59] <DShepherd> Adriana, ah.. read this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264754
[03:59] <tomd> Taggard, look in the gconf-editor under application preferences or something
[03:59] <scguy318> Taggard: I think System -> Prefs -> Preferred Apps
[03:59] <tomd> alt+f2 gconf-editor
[03:59] <bazhang> !love
[03:59] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[03:59] <Taggard> Thanks
[03:59] <offipso> now I can continue my plan, which is working
[03:59] <tomd> np
[03:59] <phrantik> lmao
[03:59] <sethk> offipso, actually, you found the answer without me, but np  :)
[03:59] <offipso> serve up free wifi and change every image to a kitten with a perl script in squid and apache to serve it
[03:59] <offipso> based on this amazing
[03:59] <offipso> article
[04:00] <Adriana> thankies o.o guess that will have to do lol
[04:00] <offipso> http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[04:00]  * genii fends off the ice-weasels by stabbing them with icicles
[04:00] <MrPockets> How do you get the Object Dock looking utility that you often see on Linux screenshots?
[04:00] <flipout> anyone every served an intranet using drupal via AD authentication?
[04:00] <sethk> genii, no, no, you have to use a blow torch
[04:00] <DShepherd> Adriana, i prefer the alt+arrow keys though but to each his own
[04:00] <Adriana> oh another issue I'm having is my laptop speakers don't cut out when I plug my headphones in
[04:00] <phrantik> icicles don't werk on ice weaslels
[04:00] <bazhang> MrPockets: you mean avant window manager?
[04:00] <Taggard> scguy318: Do I have to restart X or something to get that to work
[04:00] <offipso> Hooray, I'm so happy
[04:00] <genii> sethk , phrantik You may have a point
[04:01] <phrantik> lol
[04:01] <Evanlec> man Xserver ftw
[04:01] <MrPockets> bazhang: http://www.alazanto.org/wrvisuals/screenshots/070811.png
[04:01] <Evanlec> ;p
[04:01] <Adriana> dunno why but for some stupid reason the speakers just don't cut out when I plug my headphones in
[04:01] <MrPockets> the thing hes using on the bottom
[04:01] <offipso> While I'm here with all these good people, does anyone know how to setup squid to tell the browser how to automatically do proxy configuration?
[04:02] <bazhang> MrPockets: the 3d looking dock thing? that is in the repos iirc
[04:02] <phrantik> goodnight all
[04:02] <fuh-zz> <-----ubuntu noob
[04:02] <MrPockets> repos?
[04:02] <Adriana> my laptop is a Toshiba Satelite A200 Ah6
[04:02] <fuh-zz> it just works!
[04:03] <scguy318> MrPockets: kiba? random name I pulled
[04:03] <bazhang> MrPockets: my mistake it's not there
[04:03] <flipout> anyone every served an intranet using drupal via AD authentication?
[04:03] <DShepherd> MrPockets, avant window manager is not in the gutsy repos. http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=Main_Page you can read more about installing it here though
[04:03] <MrPockets> thanks
[04:03] <offipso> Ah,I have an easier question. How do I add a custom entry into the handy gui "services" tool?
[04:03] <offipso> oh, say for example for dhcpd
[04:03] <fous> I have a question about ubuntu.....the windows wireless drivers pkg how to i have that run at start
[04:04] <Adriana> anyone else having issues with their laptop speakers not cutting out while headphones are plugged in?
[04:04] <DShepherd> Adriana, have you tried searching the ubuntuforums?
[04:05] <MrPockets> DShepherd: can you PM me?
[04:05] <DShepherd> MrPockets, yes i can, but i wont
[04:05] <MrPockets> Will you assist me with this?
[04:05] <Adriana> nopese not yet, I just find it really odd cause it only does that with this machine not my desktop
[04:05] <DShepherd> http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=Main_Page MrPockets read here if you are interested in installing  avant window manager
[04:06] <Adriana> tmy laptop and desktop are using virtually the same audio hardware
[04:06] <mikebot> I'm trying to format a flash drive (vfat), how can I do this? (In GParted the device is locked...)
[04:06] <levander> Is it possible to make my virtual screen bigger while GNOME is running?
[04:06] <levander> I want my virtual screen bigger than my monitor.
[04:06] <scguy318> mikebot: you need to unmount the partition first :)
[04:06] <scguy318> mikebot: then you can use GPartEd or CLI mkfs
[04:07] <mikebot> scguy318: Is vfat the same as fat16?
[04:07] <levander> mikebot: no, it's the same as fat32
[04:07] <MrPockets> why cant i save to my sources.list
[04:07] <zkn> Greetings, anyone knows how to get normal looking fonts in opera in ubuntu? QT fonts look ok in general (in kcontrol) for example, but while running opera in gnome, fonts look choppy and ugly
[04:08] <levander> mikebot: fat32 added long filenames (and a few other things) to fat16
[04:08] <mikebot> Hrm...when it's mounted and I right click > properties, it says vfat, but in Gparted it says fat16..
[04:08] <levander> mikebot: maybe, i'm wrong, lemme check wikipedia
[04:08] <Leonord> hey, i'm using ubunty 7.10 server in vmware and i have the problem with the framebuffer as reported here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3826742 . I did the sugested things but it worked just one time, after a reboot the problem is back and i can't do anything to fix it. any ideas what might had gone wrong?
[04:08] <linux88> WOW Ubuntu REALLY needs to upgrade some packages. Cant compile one da** thing!
[04:09] <IdleOne> linux88: install build-essential
[04:09] <IdleOne> linux88: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:09] <IdleOne> then try your compile but look for packages first using synaptic or apt-cache search
[04:10] <linux88> idleone what is build essential contain?
[04:10] <levander> mikebot: I know fat32 was designed to be "backwards-compatible" with fat16, so I don't think it's a big deal.  There's a lot to the wikipedia page if you wanna check it yourself: Disable
[04:10] <IdleOne> linux88: everything you need to compile
[04:10] <mikebot> levander: Which do I want to format it to then?
[04:10] <scguy318> MrPockets: you need to edit it as root
[04:10] <levander> mikebot: I can't use copy and paste right now, just search "vfat" on wikipedia if you wanna see it.
[04:10] <linux88> idleone ok thanks
[04:10] <linux88> idleone i already have build-essential
[04:11] <IdleOne> linux88: what error tyou getting?
[04:11] <levander> mikebot: why not format it ext3?
[04:11] <elvys__> does Ubuntu come with Samba pre-configured, I mean, is It necessary?
[04:11] <Cazz> hey
[04:11] <Cazz> how do i enable the user list for xchat
[04:11] <mikebot> levander: I wasn't sure if I could...would it work on a windows machine too?
[04:11] <linux88> idleone for GTK+ and glib i need a newer version for both, and ubuntu dont got them
[04:12] <levander> elvys__: Ubuntu does not come with samba preconfigured.  You have to tell samba what you want to make available via the network with it.
[04:12] <linux88> and whats is fakeroot?
[04:12] <IdleOne> Cazz: you need to click and drag it open it is on the right side
[04:12] <levander> mikebot: I think I heard the ext3 driver for Windows has gotten pretty good.  I'd check that out.
[04:12] <Cazz> hm
[04:12] <MrPockets> woot
[04:12] <Cazz> there is a scroll bar
[04:12] <MrPockets> i got it!
[04:12] <Cazz> but no nicklist
[04:12] <Taggard> Does anyone know how to get the New Apple wired keyboard's volume and music control/brightness keysto work
[04:13] <mikebot> levander: The thing is, I'm trying to put OperaTor on it so that I can use it on windows machines at school... so I want something that doesn't require any drivers or whatnot
[04:13] <Peddy> is anybody here running gutsy and compiz?
[04:13] <Cazz> anyone know how to enable nicklist in xchat??
[04:13] <Cazz> hmm
[04:13] <IdleOne> Cazz: just to the immediate left of the scroll bar there is a separator bar that should change to a two ended arrow
[04:14] <IdleOne> click it
[04:14] <levander> mikebot: Isn't the Linux NTFS driver supposed to have gotten better with the Gutsy release?  I thought I saw that in the Gutsy release notes.
[04:14] <Peddy> is anybody here running gutsy and compiz?
[04:14] <mikebot> levander: Heh, no idea.
[04:14] <levander> mikebot: Or, just look and see if there's a fat32 or vfat option in gparted.
[04:14] <Cazz> nope
[04:14] <Cazz> nothing
[04:14] <DShepherd> Peddy, I am sure people here are
[04:14] <linux88> peddy i am
[04:14] <Cazz> when i installed xchat
[04:14] <BenjyStone> Cazz: Ctrl-F7
[04:14] <levander> mikebot: fat16 will work, but i think you lose long filenames that way
[04:14] <MarkP> Hi I need some help with installing, I want to have a windows and ubuntu. I got the partition made with partion magic but it says there is not base defined could somebody help in private
[04:14] <levander> mikebot: I think fat16 will work.
[04:14] <Cazz> i didnt install xchat-systray
[04:14] <elvys__> Levander: Ok, I did say it because Simply mepis allows me to see another computer with MS Windows, and this it's not necessary
[04:14] <cubedsi> peddy: i am
[04:14] <IdleOne> BenjyStone: nice trick
[04:14] <Cazz> maybe that?
[04:15] <linux88> markp install windows then ubuntu
[04:15] <Peddy> linux88: when you click on the exit button (in gnome) is the transition smooth or not?
[04:15] <linux88> markp ubuntu takes care of everyhting
[04:15] <BenjyStone> IdleOne - Thanks!
[04:15] <Peddy> linux88: to black
[04:15] <genii> bleh, partition "magic"
[04:15] <mikebot> levander: There is both, but it came as 16... would it matter which I do?
[04:15] <levander> elvys__: I don't know what Simply mepis is.
[04:15] <IdleOne> Cazz: nope has nothing to do with it but like BenjyStone said ctrl-F7 works
[04:15] <MarkP> I got windows installed and am now in installing ubuntu
[04:15] <linux88> peddy im not sure what u mean
[04:15] <Cazz> not for me
[04:15] <MarkP> made 2 partition as required
[04:15] <pacman> hey idleone...can you help me?
[04:15] <Nutubuntu> levander, it's another distro
[04:15] <Cazz> i think xchat might be messed up
[04:15] <Cazz> is there a reinstall?
[04:15] <linux88> markp ubuntu will make the partiton for you
[04:15] <IdleOne> Cazz: you installed xchat-gnome?
[04:15] <linux88> markp with gparted
[04:15] <elvys__> Levander: It is a linux distribution
[04:15] <Cazz> yes
[04:16] <IdleOne> ahhhh
[04:16] <BenjyStone> Cazz: from the view menu, can you click on User List?
[04:16] <IdleOne> Cazz: remove that and install xchat-common
[04:16] <MarkP> linux88 do you have a site for that
[04:16] <Peddy> linux88: like my screen flickers when the brightness fades (when I click on the shutdown button), instead of going smoothly.
[04:16] <Cazz> kk
[04:16] <pacman> I downloaded a game, and burned it to disk...the instructions with the game say it requires Linux kernel version 2.2.X
[04:16] <linux88> Markp, first step is to install Windows. THen put ubuntu in.im sure there is but i dont got one this second
[04:16] <pacman> but when I try and install per the instructions it says: This installation doesn't support glibc-2.1 on Linux / x86
[04:16] <IdleOne> Cazz: also try what BenjyStone is saying
[04:16] <levander> elvys__: seeing another Windows computer just requires the samba client, which don't have to be configured.  Windows computers seeing the linux box, that requires the samba server, which does have to be configured.
[04:17] <sainzeo> does anyone know how, through a bash script, one could check whether or not a certain package is installed?
[04:17] <lgc> j /#ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <linux88> peddy hmm, never heard of that, i know on my power management i had to change a few things becuase when i discnnected power to my laptop the screen would go blank
[04:17] <levander> sainzeo: dunno through a bash script, but you know about 'dpkg -l'?
[04:17] <Peddy> ahh
[04:17] <IdleOne> sainzeo: apt-cache policy package.name
[04:17] <linux88> peddy but the comp was still on
[04:17] <Peddy> linux88: so it goes smoothly for you? rather than flickering?
[04:17] <genii> pacman: kernel 2.2 is very old. We are at now kernel 2.6 series
[04:17] <linux88> peddy ya
[04:17] <sainzeo> IdleOne: do you know the returned codes if it is found or isn't?
[04:18] <Peddy> linux88: ok thanks
[04:18] <pacman> I'm using Kubuntu 7.04
[04:18] <dapimp532> What is the netstat command to see what programs are running with open ports and what port they are on
[04:18] <IdleOne> sainzeo: it will say Installed : version number
[04:18] <sainzeo> IdleOne: thanks dude - one other question, how do you check if a user is running the script as root?
[04:18] <ant-> dapimp532, netstat -pl will tell you what apps are listening
[04:19] <pacman> or am I doing something wrong?
[04:19] <dapimp532> thanks
[04:19] <MarkP> what does mountpoint mean
[04:19] <genii> pacman: It is unlikely anything writen for a kernel of the 2.2.X series will work when you try to make/compile it for kernel 2.6.X series
[04:20] <psykidellic> Hi. All are my files are created with group id 501 which i see no mention in /etc/group. Whats going on?
[04:20] <pacman> so what do you suggest I do?
[04:20] <genii> pacman: Find a later edition which works with 2.6 series of kernels
[04:20] <Nutubuntu> MarkP, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_(computing)
[04:20] <MarkP> hmmz
[04:21] <Peddy> does anyone here know how to stop the screen brightness from darkening when I press the quit button?
[04:22] <bazhang> Peddy: is that an issue?
[04:23] <Peddy> bazhang: what do you mean?
[04:23] <blackfox> ubuntu can use nero ?
[04:23] <andresj> hello everybody. which is the most lightweight window manager/session available for (K)Ubuntu (aptget-able)? I am currentyl using KDE but sometimes I need to use as little resources as I can in order to play some games...
[04:24] <bazhang> Peddy: I believe that is the default--why would you want to change it when you are quitting?
[04:24] <pteague> blackfox> should be able to... wine or virtualize windows...  but why?
[04:24] <Nutubuntu> andresj, try waimea
[04:24] <scguy318> pteague: in fact there's a version of Nero for Linux, but bleh
[04:24] <blackfox> becouse i wan burn cd sometime
[04:24] <Peddy> bazhang: because my screen fades very jerkily when I click on it
[04:24] <scguy318> blackfox: k3b
[04:24] <delete> andresj, also try enlightenment
[04:24] <scguy318> blackfox: lots of free burning software
[04:24] <Peddy> blackfox: its not very good (nero linux)
[04:25] <Some_Person> How can I broadcast an MMS server?
[04:25] <blackfox> ok thank you
[04:25] <bazhang> Peddy: not sure how to help that.
[04:25] <Peddy> OK bazhang
[04:25] <Silmeria> i just ran ubuntu off the live CD and my wireless card wasnt working. does that mean it wont work in ubntu @__@?
[04:25] <MarkP> No root file system is defined.Please correct this from the partitioning menu.    how can I fix this
[04:25] <andresj> thanks Nutubuntu and delete. I have used enlightenment before and I like how it is usable and lightweight at the same time. I haven't used waimea or blackbox before, I'll try that. :)
[04:26] <delete> andresj, blackbox is ok but fluxbox is better in my opinion
[04:26] <ScottyTucson> Hi guys, I am a total newb to Linux/Unbuntu
[04:26] <delete> andresj, hope it helped
[04:26] <ScottyTucson> Hope someone can help me
[04:26] <ScottyTucson> Anyone good with wireless drivers?
[04:26] <Nutubuntu> andresj, I haven't used enlightenment - but why not stay with that if you know it and like it ?
[04:27]  * Silmeria is in need of wireless driver help, too
[04:27] <Maverick> can someone help me with this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/#post2971788
[04:27] <billenium> how do i find my Graphics card, CPU, motherboard ect with Linux (terminal?)
[04:27] <ScottyTucson> Anyone good with wireless drivers?
[04:27] <MarkP> linux88 can I msg you in pvt
[04:27] <andresj> Nutubuntu, just to see if there is another, more lightweight window manager, as I will only use it for gaming (which is fullscreen anyways)
[04:27] <RoAkSoAx> billenium: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:27] <BenjyStone> billenium: also lspci
[04:27] <billenium> k
[04:27] <delete> ScottyTucson, are youfrom tucson az, by any chance
[04:27] <Seak> hello i need help with ubuntu with wifi connect i have a laptop with 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[04:28] <ScottyTucson> I am from Tucson DELETE
[04:28] <Seak> i cannot get the drivers to work
[04:28] <Maverick> can some one help me with this please????? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/#post2971788
[04:28] <ScottyTucson> I cannot get my wireless card on my laptop to work either
[04:28] <delete> ScottyTucson, cool i was just wondering since i live here as well, but what sort of problem do you have
[04:28] <superman> jkhll;
[04:28] <superman> 'j
[04:28] <superman> ghj
[04:28] <Jeffimix> I can, but it's gimped because Ubuntu has 2 orinoco drivers and it uses the wrong one
[04:28] <superman> l
[04:28] <superman> j
[04:28] <superman> j
[04:29] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here able to give me some help?
[04:29] <superman> with what
[04:29] <linux88> markp sure whats up
[04:29] <Some_Person> How can I broadcast an MMS server with Ubuntu?
[04:29] <Clay_The_Arc> setting up my ppp connection in ubuntu 7.10
[04:29] <Clay_The_Arc> ive got the restricted drivers enabled
[04:29] <ScottyTucson> Delete, is private window ok?
[04:29] <superman> Clay_The_Arc,  right click the the panel and click add to panel
[04:30] <Clay_The_Arc> what do u mean?
[04:30] <Clay_The_Arc> :|
[04:30] <superman> the start bar
[04:30] <delete> ScottyTucson, yea but im not registered so im not sure if it will work
[04:30] <Clay_The_Arc> im on windows atm
[04:30] <delete> you can try though
[04:30] <Clay_The_Arc> ill have to boot into linux to do this if its multi step
[04:30] <superman> Clay_The_Arc, this is a linux support chat
[04:30] <Clay_The_Arc> i know
[04:30] <ScottyTucson> Delete, I have an HP laptop with builtin wireless adapter (Broadcom) and when I run Unbuntu, the wireless adapter doesnt even come on....
[04:30] <Clay_The_Arc> i have ubuntu dual booted
[04:30] <Silmeria> me too
[04:30] <Silmeria> or i will
[04:31] <Silmeria> if i can figure out this wireless
[04:31] <superman> Clay_The_Arc, go to network connections in control panel
[04:31] <Silmeria> :<
[04:31] <Peddy> anybody here know how to stop the gnome shutdown dialogue from blacking out the screen?
[04:31] <superman> Clay_The_Arc, create new connection
[04:31] <Clay_The_Arc> k
[04:31] <Silmeria> ScottyTucson, i have the same thing.
[04:31] <groggory> anyone use exaile with DAAP? the folks over at #exaile aren't talking atm
[04:31] <Silmeria> ScottyTucson, my other laptop is HP with broadcom 802.11g
[04:31] <Clay_The_Arc> what now  superman?
[04:31] <delete> ScottyTucson, when you installed did it recognize the card
[04:31] <Maverick> hellp polease...http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/#post2971788
[04:31] <pacman> hey genii, are you still there?
[04:31] <superman> Clay_The_Arc,  one sec
[04:31] <kill_u> hi all
[04:32] <Jeffimix> Silmeria: you will probably want to look into Ndiswrapper
[04:32] <linux88> Maverick
[04:32] <Silmeria> ScottyTucson, you have to do quite a bit of stuff with ndiswrapper, thats all i remember. i got it to work, but the HP has a motherboard issue and eventually the wireless card disappears
[04:32] <Maverick> yes
[04:32] <superman> Clay_The_Arc,  please click http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283070
[04:32] <Silmeria> has an issue*
[04:32] <Peddy> anybody here know how to stop the gnome shutdown dialogue from blacking out the screen?
[04:32] <Jeffimix> Silmeria: there is a Linux broadcom driver, I could never get it to work with mine, but Ndiswrapper... worked somewhat, it uses the windows driver
[04:32] <linux88> Maverick what is it that you are wanting to do. In short version
[04:32] <ScottyTucson> Delete, I have no idea
[04:32] <Silmeria> Jeffimix, i got mine working, but im using a new laptop now. its .... actually one sec im not even sure >>
[04:32] <ScottyTucson> this is the first time I have ever installed anything other than windows
[04:33] <Clay_The_Arc> superman mind if  i PM u?
[04:33] <zoya> hi i installed kernel headers for a custom kenel and now i'm trying to compile a module bu i keep getting  scripts/genksyms/genksyms missing
[04:33] <superman> sure
[04:33] <delete> ScottyTucson, well you might want to look through this manualhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:33] <Clay_The_Arc> to lose the "noise" of this chan
[04:33] <delete> ScottyTucson, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:33] <richdy> can anyone tell me if there is an Ubuntu package for MySql 4.1?
[04:33] <zoya> i don have genkyms but i have genksyms.c and .h
[04:33] <Maverick> linux88, please look through this pleaseeee.....http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/#post2971788
[04:34] <Jeffimix> mm
[04:34] <Silmeria> Jeffimix, i started ubuntu in live cd mode and it didnt see my card. im using a LAN-Express AS IEEE 802.11g PCI-E Adapter. does that mean it wont work iwth ubuntu, if live CD doesnt see it?
[04:34] <delete> ScottyTucson, first you need to know if it recognizes it then you need the formware for it
[04:34] <delete> firmware*
[04:34] <NIMBY> Hi I just used Gparted to copy the 12gb partition I had on a drive to a seperate 300gb drive, I left 8gb free at the end and formatted it as linux swap, I am trying to edit grub to boot from the 300gb now instead of the previous drive, how do I find out which drive is hd0,0 etc ?
[04:34] <Peddy> anybody here know how to stop the gnome shutdown dialogue from blacking out the screen? I will buy someone who can help me a nice cold beer :)
[04:35] <Jeffimix> Silmeria: it might work, but it will take some fudging around with, it won't be painless to say the least, and it indeed might not work at all
[04:35] <gavin__> Maverrick : I am using Feisty Fawn. Is Gutsy Gibbon better ?
[04:35] <ScottyTucson> Delete, ok...let me take a look at this
[04:35] <NIMBY> btw the 12gb is where linux is running from now
[04:35] <ScottyTucson> Delete, Thanks for your assistance
[04:35] <delete> ScottyTucson, no problem
[04:35] <ScottyTucson> Delete, do you work in the computer field here in Tucson?
[04:35] <Jeffimix> Linux has lackluster driver support for wireless, it's its biggest weakness...
[04:36] <delete> ScottyTucson, no but my secret passion is computers.
[04:36] <Silmeria> Jeffimix, i think my actual card is named something else though
[04:36] <Silmeria> Jeffimix, like atheros or something else
[04:36] <bazhang> Jeffimix: I beg to differ
[04:36] <Clay_The_Arc> superman
[04:36] <Clay_The_Arc> you see PMs?
[04:36] <ScottyTucson> Delete, I would be interested in talking computers with you offline sometime. I find this public forum here difficult to have good discussion - and I am always interested in meeting like minded people in my home town
[04:37] <NIMBY> sorry pressed wrong button
[04:37] <linux88> Maverick when you say you are pinging and they are up, are you talking about the apps running on a port?
[04:37] <delete> NIMBY, try to run the command fdisk and see what drive its on
[04:37] <zbo> How do I find out the number of times I've logged in (lately or as far back as the computer can remember)?  Is there a command for this?
[04:37] <Maverick> linux88: I mean that i can see the IPs alive while pinging them through nmap
[04:37] <Jeffimix> bazhang: well I suppose there are arguments either way, lets not fight though...
[04:38] <linux88> Maverick The problem I have, is that ubuntu (gusty) configures all my LAN applications (Games, Messengers, etc.) to use my ppp0 address, and not my eth0 address?
[04:38] <NIMBY> delete fdisk ? is that that a windows option ?
[04:38] <delete> ScottyTucson, cool, i should let you know that i have always been self taught and im still in a huge learning process but lack of money also hinders that as well
[04:38] <Silmeria> is there a list of wireless cards that work with ubuntu anywhere?
[04:38] <bazhang> Jeffimix: not wanting to fight :} do you an issue with wireless?
[04:38] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here help me on a PPP problem with ubuntu 7.10?
[04:38] <ScottyTucson> Delete, is there a way I can contact you (different medium?)
[04:38] <delete> NIMBY, in the terminal on your linux box run fdisk and it should show you what drives are there and which one is hdd0
[04:39] <Maverick> linux88: yes it does, http://www.file-post.com/view_image.php?id=570
[04:39] <NIMBY> delete , now I see same as fdisk older windows :)
[04:39] <delete> ScottyTucson, tehgimmick@hotmail.com
[04:39] <khaled_> Is there a way to use the internal mic of Dell D830 using 7.10?
[04:39] <Jeffimix> Silmeria: this is a not entirely comprehensive, but okay, list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers
[04:40] <ScottyTucson> Delete, awsome - I am emailing you soon
[04:40] <Clay_The_Arc> any1 here help me on a PPP problem with ubuntu 7.10?
[04:40] <delete> ScottyTucson, cool
[04:40] <eylisian> random question for the ether, anyone know if/when Ubuntu might port Cobbler for apt use?
[04:40] <linux88> Maverick give me a sec, im wathcing the Long Beach State vs. Washington right now
[04:40] <NIMBY> delete it gives me a usage prompt, Im very new to linux so might need a bit of extra guidance
[04:40] <delete> khaled_, does it recognize the mic or is it the kind inside of the monitor
[04:40] <Maverick> linux88: ok
[04:41] <delete> NIMBY, open terminal, type "fdisk" and it will show you the HDD's that are being used
[04:41] <NIMBY> delete used sudo fdisk -l and that listed all the drive info
[04:41] <IdleOne> Clay_The_Arc: try asking a more specific question
[04:41] <NIMBY> delete had to be in sudo otherwise it didnt do anything :)
[04:41] <delete> NIMBY, sorry yea i was brain farting
[04:41] <Clay_The_Arc> does any1 know how to tell if my ppp0 connection is connecting
[04:41] <khaled_> There is a bug in 7.10 is that it does not recognize the sound on Dell Latitude D830. There were a few solutions to that bug .. but none of them solves the issue with the internal built-in mic. I was wondering if anyone here was able to solve that issue
[04:42] <Clay_The_Arc> or know of any GUIs to handle it for me, (I.E. to show connecting, verifiying, no dial tone, etc)
[04:42] <delete> NIMBY, dev/hda1/ should be your main disk
[04:43] <Clay_The_Arc> or know of any GUIs to handle it for me, (I.E. to show connecting, verifiying, no dial tone, etc)
[04:43] <Clay_The_Arc> does any1 know how to tell if my ppp0 connection is connecting
[04:43] <eylisian> khaled_, if you cannot find an answer here try the Dell Ubuntu forum pages thingie. It was helpful w/ some Vostro desktop issues I was having. Pretty current too.
[04:43] <NIMBY> delete sata drives so come up as sda --- /dev/sda1   *           2       75098    46559232    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:43] <NIMBY> /dev/sda2           94043      433541   210488320    7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:43] <khaled_> eylisian, do you have a link for that?
[04:44] <Clay_The_Arc> i have enabled all frame work
[04:44] <NIMBY> delete /dev/sda2 is where it's booting from now
[04:44] <eylisian> khaled_, one sec...
[04:44] <Clay_The_Arc> and etc
[04:44] <arghh2d2> Can anyone tell me if i'd be wasting my time trying to write a script that does the following:   logs me out of gnome,  killall gdm, startx -- -depth 8, and then wine windowprog.exe?  i figure it's possibl, i just want to know how difficult an undertaking.
[04:45] <NIMBY> delete and I want it to boot from /dev/sdb1
[04:45] <nonewmsgs> is there a way to integrate freeloader or another download manager into ff?
[04:45] <eylisian> khaled_, http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:45] <genii> Clay_The_Arc: gnome-ppp
[04:45] <Clay_The_Arc> genii
[04:45] <delete> NIMBY, you might have to edit the fstab file
[04:45] <Clay_The_Arc> link to it?
[04:46] <delete> NIMBY, dont quote me though ive never had to do it
[04:46] <arghh2d2> or does anyone know a good channell that deals with scripting?
[04:46] <genii> Clay_The_Arc:use the package manager to install it
[04:46] <Clay_The_Arc> i dont have an online connection
[04:46] <Clay_The_Arc> to apt-get
[04:46] <khaled_> eylisian, thanks
[04:46] <Maverick> linux88: you there?
[04:46] <Clay_The_Arc> or isit on the CD?
[04:46] <arghh2d2> !script
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about script - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <eylisian> khaled_, np. hope it's some help.
[04:47] <arghh2d2> !scripting
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <nonewmsgs> is it possible to integrate freeloader into iceweasal or anthoer browser?
[04:47] <Clay_The_Arc> genii, is gnome-ppp included in the live CD?
[04:47] <NIMBY> delete it's a dual boot with vista so I think I need to edit the  menu.lst  file
[04:47] <dml1> Hey, does anyone have any experience configuring external widescreen monitors?
[04:47] <Seak> hello i need help with ubuntu with wifi connect i have a laptop with 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[04:47] <genii> arghh2d2: Doesn't ctrl-alt keypad - or keypad +    cycle thru all available resolutions and depths?
[04:47] <Clay_The_Arc> brb
[04:48] <delete> NIMBY, yea most likely i dont dual boot so im not quite sure but im looking into it
[04:48] <NIMBY> delete problem is that refers to drives as hd0,0 etc
[04:48] <genii> !info gnome-ppp
[04:48] <ubotu> gnome-ppp: modem internet connection tool for the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.23-1 (gutsy), package size 82 kB, installed size 600 kB
[04:48] <Maverick> please help me with this........ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/
[04:49] <arghh2d2> genii yeah,  i guess it does, neat, however i need to adjust the color depth for a wine game, not resolution.
[04:49] <Peddy> anybody know how to access the compiz support channel?
[04:49] <cerealkiller> guys
[04:50] <genii> arghh2d2: Not I said resolutions AND depths read: color can be set to 8 bit
[04:50] <genii> *Note
[04:50] <Maverick> please...http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/
[04:50] <cerealkiller> i have problem regarding ubuntu, before when i click the shutdown button, theres a fading effect, but now ni fading effect
[04:51] <arghh2d2> ok, genii how do i  cycle thru the color then?
[04:51] <arghh2d2> genii all  it does is adjust the resolution once then back but not color
[04:51] <NIMBY> delete thing is I have sda1-4 and it is booting from 2nd partition so I guess thats sda2, but the menu.lst file refers to hd0,3 for linux and hd0,0 for vista, Im also guessing I need to change it to hd1,0 to get it to boot from the 2nd drive
[04:52] <Seak> can anyone help me install a wifi driver for my laptop i have gusty and its a athero wifi
[04:52] <Nyle> how do i find out my version of fglrx driver
[04:52] <nonewmsgs> seak yeah
[04:52] <Nyle> hi
[04:52] <delete> NIMBY, basically (hd0,0) means boot so whatever it is will boot
[04:52] <Nyle> nimby - not in my back yard?
[04:52] <delete> NIMBY, so in your case is vista
[04:53] <Seak> nonewmsgs thnx
[04:53] <nonewmsgs> seak give me one minute and i'll start the intructios
[04:53] <arghh2d2> anyways,  if anyone can recommend a freenode channel that is helpful with scripting, i'd be obliged.
[04:53] <Seak> nonemsgs: thank you
[04:53] <NIMBY> Nyle, well spotted most people dont get it :)
[04:53] <nonewmsgs> seak do you have wep enabled?
[04:53] <[chr0n0s]> arghh2d2, try #bash
[04:53] <Seak> nonewmsgs wpa i think
[04:53] <NIMBY> delete yes thats correct, vista was there before I installed linux
[04:54] <Maverick> help me pleaseeeeeeee....http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/
[04:54] <nonewmsgs> seak wpa is tough.  i dont know if it supports it yet, but wep is easy
[04:54] <Seak> nonewmsgs: maby wep let me checj
[04:54] <arghh2d2> thanks chr0n0s
[04:54] <savi0r666> hey i cant use firfox for shit .... it automatically keeps popping up the search and i cant get rid of it? what do i do to fix this i re-installed it with no solve
[04:54] <MarkP> how can you set up a duel boot
[04:55] <bazhang> language please savi0r666
[04:55] <IdleOne> !dualboot | MarkP
[04:55] <ubotu> MarkP: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:55] <savi0r666> and when i try to type it automatically puts my curser there in search so i cant type in wb addrsses?
[04:55] <Nyle> NIMBY: Carlin is the man.
[04:55] <MarkP> thanks
[04:55] <delete> NIMBY, ok so you now need to edit the grub.conf
[04:55] <acu> I have a windows driver 64 (sncamd.sys)  for Chicony webcam (used in HP laptops) - how can I install it in Linux ?
[04:55] <MarkP> !dualboot
[04:55] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[04:55] <delete> NIMBY, it should be located in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[04:56] <savi0r666> an suggestions on the firefox issue?
[04:56] <Seak> nonewmsgs: can we go to a diffent channel?
[04:56] <nonewmsgs> seak whatever channel you want mate
[04:57] <NIMBY> delete there is no grub.conf file only a menu.lst file
[04:57] <[chr0n0s]> NIMBY, same
[04:57] <patrickneville> hey i have a wireless computer that the internet keeps shuting down, and i was wondering if there is a command or something to restart the network manager instead of restarting the computer
[04:57] <delete> NIMBY, sorry yea that is the one its grub.conf in fedora sorry for the mix up
[04:58] <Rian-Davide> hey all where can I find broadcom drivers for ndiswrapper?
[04:58] <NIMBY> delete so if I set linux to hd1,0 that (in theory) should make it boot from the 2nd drive and partition 1
[05:00] <Jeffimix> /connect irc.amigaworld.net
[05:00] <delete> NIMBY, hd1 should still be the first disk but normally hdb1 is the second disk
[05:00] <Rian-Davide> anyone there?
[05:00] <delete> NIMBY, look carefully at the fdisk
[05:01] <sethk> (hd1,0) is grub syntax.  grub is 0 based, so (hd1) is typically  /dev/hdb
[05:01] <Rian-Davide> no one there eh
[05:01] <Maverick> help plz..http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/
[05:01] <sethk> however, there is a file in /boot/grub called device.map that is used to translate hd0, 1, 2, etc. to hda, hbd, sda, whatever
[05:01] <delete> yea i know i need to know what is booting
[05:02] <NIMBY> delete the menu.lst file has hd0,0 for vista and hd0,3 for linux, and they are all on the same physical drive, I have clone it to a 2nd physical drive which I assume will be treated as hd1
[05:02] <sethk> NIMBY, only if the second drive is mapped to hd1 in /boot/grub/device.map
[05:03] <sethk> NIMBY, if that drive was not in the machine at install time, you'll have to add the drive to device.map
[05:03] <Rian-Davide> where do you find broadcom drivers anyone know?
[05:03] <[chr0n0s]> Rian-Davide, google for ndiswrapper
[05:03] <NIMBY> sda2 is where linux currently is and sdb1 is where I want to boot from (sata so sd not hd)
[05:04] <delete> Rian-Davide, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[05:04] <sethk> NIMBY, ok, youll find a line in device.map:   (hd0)   /dev/sda                  if it's not already there, add a line:     (hd1)   /dev/sdb
[05:05] <terrorxs> so is it bad to force a hard reboot with linux? aka, I logged out of a new installation(graphics drivers), and now I am just staring at black.
[05:05] <patrickneville> hey i have a wireless computer that the internet keeps shuting down, and i was wondering if there is a command or something to restart the network manager instead of restarting the computer
[05:05] <sethk> NIMBY, the partitions are simply 0, 1, 2, 3 for 1, 2, 3, 4, respectively
[05:05] <NIMBY> sethk the drive was in place when I installed but I have since used gparted to remove the 2 ntfs partitions that were on it and replace them with ext3 ones
[05:05] <zhopoyeb> Hello all, I'm trying to connect remotely to a Windows box, What exactly can i do to log on to it? what needs to be install on the windows box or disabled so i can shh or something into it?
[05:06] <sethk> NIMBY, that doesn't usually matter.  If the drive was there, the required line is probably already in device.map.  You should look at it anyway, to make sure the it thinks (hd1) is what you want it to think (hd1) is
[05:06] <delete> zhopoyeb, you need vncviewer
[05:06] <sethk> NIMBY, awkward syntax, but I think you know what I mean
[05:06] <xargon> hey anyone know how i can get java stuff working in firefox?
[05:06] <delete> xargon, look for the plugin you may need to install manually
[05:06] <sethk> NIMBY, I hope you know what I mean, anyway  :)
[05:07] <NIMBY> sethk well thats answered my question --- (hd0)	/dev/sda
[05:07] <NIMBY> (hd1)	/dev/sdb :)
[05:07] <xargon> delete, kk
[05:07] <sethk> NIMBY, good.  It never hurts to check, if it's wrong you get weird behavior and almost nobody knows about device.map so they won't tell you to check it.
[05:07] <NIMBY> I'm going to try setting it to hd1,0 and cross my fingers
[05:08] <xargon> delete, would installing java-common in the synaptic package manager do it?
[05:08] <patrickneville> when i try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up i get this error : SIOCSIFFLAGS : input/output error
[05:08] <NIMBY> thanks sethk and delete for your help hopefully I will be back very soon, if it doesnt work straight off I will edit it on boot up
[05:08] <patrickneville> any ideas?
[05:08] <zhopoyeb> delete thanks for the tip
[05:08] <delete> xargon, maybe usually when java doesnt work firefox will tell you to install missing plusing
[05:08] <pacman> damn, I'm hella lost
[05:09] <xargon> delete, it tells me but then it says gotta manual install, thats where i haev no clue what to do heh
[05:09] <NIMBY> brb
[05:09] <mrpockets> is the use of my PCI TV tuner going to be pretty much abandoned with Ubuntu?
[05:09] <delete> xargon, youll have to download a tar.gz and install it yourself
[05:09] <theflyingfool> what do i need to get a virtual machine running
[05:10] <prappl93> I need help
[05:10] <xargon> delete, alright
[05:10] <prappl93> I cannot install any programs from the add/remove list!
[05:10] <tators> how do I change users in bash
[05:11] <DG19075> xargon, you could also try sudo apt-get install java
[05:11] <patrickneville> any ideas on why my logout screen does not show?
[05:11] <NIMBY> well its seems to have worked, is there any way to check?
[05:11] <delete> xargon, you should have to click a link to the download page to downlad it, it will have instructions on how to do it but you "NEED" to follow it closely
[05:11] <MTecknology> does mail-notification require evolution to be running?
[05:11] <Maverick> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/....help plz
[05:11] <delete> xargon, make sure everything you type in is correct
[05:11] <Maverick> help please............ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wired-network-problem-in-ubuntu-gusty-602611/
[05:11] <tators> how do I change users in bash
[05:12] <xargon> delete, kk
[05:12] <sethk> walking the dogs, back later, probably
[05:12] <sethk> tators, su (set user) is used to change users
[05:12] <regeya> wait, dude, whut?
[05:12] <theflyingfool> what do i need to run virtual machines
[05:12] <regeya> is it the weekend already?
[05:13] <terrorxs> with my new setup, I messed up the x windows config...how do I redo the config for xwin?
[05:13] <Jeffimix> no
[05:13] <Jeffimix> it's monday
[05:13] <Jeffimix> tuesday
[05:13] <_nix_> regeya: nope.. not yet
[05:13] <regeya> !google
[05:13] <delete> theflyingfool, wine?
[05:13] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[05:13] <regeya> theflyingfool: vmware?  qemu?
[05:13] <delete> theflyingfool, or maybe vmware but i dont really mess with that stuff so im not sure
[05:13] <regeya> !qemu
[05:13] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:13] <_nix_> tuesday
[05:14] <Sisco> I need a ubuntu that will fit on a 2GB flash drive, any suggestions?
[05:14] <Jeffimix> !xen
[05:14] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[05:14] <regeya> qemu will run xp fairly fast if you have the kqemu extension...see ubotu's link there
[05:14] <_nix_> Sisco: fluxbuntu should do
[05:14] <regeya> damn, not quite tuesday yet here.  give it 45min.
[05:14] <theflyingfool> is xen or qemu better?
[05:14] <Sisco> _nix_ link?
[05:14] <_nix_> Sisco: www.fluxbuntu.org
[05:15] <_nix_> Sisco: FYI its rather minimal.. don't hate me afterwords
[05:15] <regeya> theflyingfool: I don't mean to sound condescending, but I think you'd be the better judge of that.  You know your requirements...not us.
[05:15] <Coosh> When I go to install Ubuntu using normal or safe graphics, I see the splash loading screen then when it normally would load x its black.. any ideas what it might be? (im using a nvidia 6600gt if that helps?)
[05:15] <Sisco> can I install/run it from the usb 2.0 flash drive?
[05:15] <theflyingfool> regeya, i guess the question i should be asking then is what are the major differnences
[05:15] <regeya> I mean, if I came barging in wanting to know what the best sound card is...
[05:15] <regeya> theflyingfool: what's the best sound card?
[05:15] <theflyingfool> its one of the xfis
[05:16] <delete> Sisco, if your motherboard supports it
[05:16] <_nix_> Sisco: yes.. for installation from the drive itself, you'll need the alternate install disc
[05:16] <arghh2d2> #bash is a bunch of high holy showboats that stroke their ego on knowing something no one else knows, why have a channel on the subject if you're just going to sit around flaunting your hoarde of knowledge.
[05:16] <regeya> lol
[05:16] <NIMBY> how can I enable the swap disk feature now ?
[05:16] <_nix_> Sisco: delete is right, your mb should support booting from the usb drive
[05:16] <mrpockets_> so I'm desperatly trying to get my TV tuner to work..
[05:17] <_nix_> NIMBY: you made a swap partition when installing ubuntu?
[05:17] <regeya> theflyingfool:  http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/  http://www.vmware.com/  http://www.xensource.com/  that ought to be a good start.
[05:17]  * regeya grumbles something about people who just won't read
[05:17] <arghh2d2> #bash is a bunch of high holy showboats that stroke their ego on knowing something no one else knows, why have a channel on the subject if you're just going to sit around flaunting your hoarde of knowledge.
[05:17] <_nix_> !mythtv | mrpockets_
[05:17] <ubotu> mrpockets_: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:17] <theflyingfool> regeya, it has nothing to do with not being willing to read its about not know where to find the info
[05:17] <NIMBY> _nix_ I have just used gparted to move my original install to another drive and I made and 8gb linuxswap on the end of it
[05:17] <somerville32> arghh2d2, Some of  them helped me
[05:18] <arghh2d2> kudos to #ubuntu ops for being so helpful, glad you got a life.
[05:18] <Coosh> Any have any idea's what the ubuntu installer might just come up blank after the splash screen where an X desktop would be expected?
[05:18] <regeya> maybe we lost something when it became easier to install linux than windows...there was a barrier of entry a decade ago, which stopped all management types and included only the techs.
[05:18] <weltschmerz> i can only use compwiz for one user at a time.  anyone know why that might be?
[05:18] <arghh2d2> somerville32 i'm sure they are extremely helpful if they wanna be
[05:18] <_nix_> NIMBY: whoa.. an 8GB swap!! well you'll have to issue the following command to enable it this session: sudo mkswap -v1 /dev/<device> && sudo swapon /dev/<device>
[05:18]  * regeya is ranting, please forgive
[05:19]  * regeya will go away now until the rant subsides
[05:19] <_nix_> NIMBY: you may have to edit your /etc/fstab enable that at boot time
[05:19]  * theflyingfool is a tech who is just starting out on nix, and is working on dial up at his parents house
[05:19] <NIMBY> _nix_ I have 4gb of ram, I have no idea what it would normally be :)
[05:20]  * Coosh feels like a moron, he can install slackware faster then I can ubuntu.. GRR
[05:20] <Jeffimix> mm I miss slackware sometimes
[05:20] <Jeffimix> ... not really
[05:21] <_nix_> NIMBY: with that much RAM at your disposle I don't think you'll ever need a swap partition under normal usage. but an equal swap should do equally well. 8GB IMHO is an overkill
[05:21] <airtonix> 8gb is wayyy too much
[05:21] <Coosh> heh 1GB would be more then enuf.. ;p
[05:21] <airtonix> you might actually see a reduction peformnace by using that much
[05:21] <airtonix> 8gb I mean
[05:22] <Seak> need help setting up wireless connection with my laptop im on gusty
[05:22] <airtonix> for systems that require it I thinkn there is a sweetspot in reltion to your real ram amount
[05:22] <NIMBY> _nix_ Im very new to linux and am used to windows needed huge amounts of virtual memory space
[05:22] <airtonix> windows and linux use virtual memory in different ways
[05:23] <_nix_> NIMBY: I guess you were Windows Vista or probably XP that grew a tad old.
[05:23] <airtonix> windows makes a file that increase fragmentation
[05:23] <_nix_> *using
[05:23] <airtonix> whereas linux will dedicate a partition to virtual memory, with a special filesystem
[05:23] <owen1> I am connected with a cable to my router, does it mean that I get a static ip?
[05:23] <IdleOne> omg 8GB of ram is more than my HD on my first ubuntu box lol
[05:23] <airtonix> owen1:  with a lan cable?
[05:24] <NIMBY> _nix_  I have used various flavours of ms for years but vista has made me want to change, it is such utter crap
[05:24] <Coosh> owen1, generally yes but since its still dhcp your isp can still change it on you..
[05:24] <Dr_willis> owen1,  the router may or may not be getting a static ip. Most likely its not static.
[05:24] <owen1> airtonix: yes. RJ45 i think
[05:24] <Dr_willis> owen1,  the PC may be getting the same ip from the routers dhcp service.   but its proberly not static either. You could set up a static ip for the pc.
[05:24] <_nix_> NIMBY: want to know more crap? google for "Windows Vista - A Cost Analysis". Nice document..
[05:24] <NIMBY> _nix_ I have the fastest computer I ever had with the most ram and fastest drives and yet with vista it was slower than xp
[05:24] <cretep> how come the automatic update thing doesn't offer Firefox 2?
[05:25] <owen1> Dr_willis: do i set it up in the router?
[05:25] <Maveric1> I am on a wired network using a PPPoE connection. The problem I have, is that ubuntu (gusty) configures all my LAN applications (Games, Messengers, etc.) to use my ppp0 address, and not my eth0 address. Hence, the other LAN boxes take a lot of time to show up. If I try doing a ping sweep with nmap, I can see them up.
[05:25] <_nix_> NIMBY: welcome to ubuntu XD
[05:25] <owen1> Dr_willis: is it the 'port forwarding' option?
[05:25] <_nix_> NIMBY: and linux
[05:25] <Coosh> anyone know why when running the installer of ubuntu I see the splash screen as normal but when I get to the X desktop it never appears its just a black screen?
[05:25] <NIMBY> _nix_ $400 for vista ultimate, and then we do the debugging for ms for nothing :-(
[05:25] <Dr_willis> owen1,  some routers have that feature. some dont. or you just set up the router to give out ips in one range, then set up any static ip pc's in a differnt range.
[05:26] <IdleOne> NIMBY: ubuntu is free and canonical pays for the shipping also :)
[05:26] <NIMBY> _nix_ vista networking was the thing that broke the camels back for me
[05:26] <owen1> Dr_willis: my router is netgear. i saw a section for port forwarding. is that what i need?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> owen1,  i have my router set where 192.168.1.100 and higher are dynamic. anything below that i can use for static ips  on my machines.
[05:26] <magic_ninja> how do you print fps on glx gears
[05:26] <magic_ninja> its like glxgears --printfps right
[05:26] <Dr_willis> owen1,  port forwarding is not related to the ip the pc's get.
[05:26] <NIMBY> _nix_ was quicker to burn data to dvd and run downstairs than transfer it
[05:27] <Dr_willis> magic_ninja,  some times it is.. and some times thats the default. :)
[05:27] <magic_ninja> ?
[05:27] <magic_ninja> how i do it
[05:27] <_nix_> NIMBY: I guess you left vista for good now. try not to think about it... eases the pain.
[05:27] <terrorxs> is there a way to redo the graphic options for x windows, i kinda broke it.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> magic_ninja,  try it without the options. I think its the default onubuntu
[05:27] <loop2012> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_avwGFsv60U (google android, crazy)
[05:27] <Coosh> so I assume no one has any advice for my problem? lol
[05:28] <owen1> Dr_willis: got it. what feature should i look for in my router to set it for static ip?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> owen1,  'dhcp'
[05:28] <delete> Coosh, did you search the ubuntu forums
[05:28] <NIMBY> _nix_ I will have to have dual boot for awhile, Bioshock wont work on linux I believe but I am going to have xp insted of vista
[05:28] <Dr_willis> owen1,  some routers can map a specific ip to mac address.. No idea if yous can or not. check its manual i guess. :0
[05:28] <delete> NIMBY, wine should support bioshock but im not sure
[05:29] <delete> NIMBY, try looking into it
[05:29] <Coosh> delete, oh yeah I found a few good tidbits for example trying xmodule=vesa on boot (as i suspect its a problem the video driver its loading).. but found nothing..
[05:29] <NIMBY> _nix_ and if I can get WoW to work here I should be on here 90% of the time anyway
[05:29] <Coosh> delete, well nothing that worked..
[05:29] <_nix_> NIMBY: what's WoW??
[05:29] <owen1> Dr_willis: Dr_willis i found this section - Wireless Card Access Setup
[05:30] <delete> Coosh, sorry i dont know too much about graphics cards
[05:30] <owen1> Dr_willis: it has 2 texboxes - device name and MAC address.
[05:30] <delete> _nix_, he probably mean world of warcraft
[05:30] <Maveric1> I am on a wired network using a PPPoE connection. The problem I have, is that ubuntu (gusty) configures all my LAN applications (Games, Messengers, etc.) to use my ppp0 address, and not my eth0 address. Hence, the other LAN boxes take a lot of time to show up. If I try doing a ping sweep with nmap, I can see them up. Can you help me please?
[05:30] <magic_ninja> !glxgears
[05:30] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[05:31] <magic_ninja> it doesn't work >.<
[05:31] <Coosh> delete, do you know if its possible to do a text based install of ubuntu?
[05:31] <owen1> Dr_willis: i found another section - Address Reservation
[05:31] <_nix_> delete: oh.. k NIMBY: if it's games that you want on linux, shelling out some buck to http://www.transgaming.com/ should get you going
[05:31] <delete> Coosh, yea you should have the option when you insert the disk to do command line install
[05:32] <mrpockets_> If i want to use TV time for a TV program, how to i configure it to use my PCI TV tuner?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> owen1,  it would be better if you checked your routers manual :)   it may even have online help in html format.
[05:32] <Coosh> delete, im using 7.10 I see Start or install, start or install in safe graphics, install with driver update cd, oem install, thats it for installs (theres check cd, memory test and boot from hd)
[05:33] <NIMBY> _nix_ I refuse to pay $5 extra just to play a few games, I have already purchased xp so will suffer dual boot until I no longer need to , but thanks for the info :)
[05:33] <NIMBY> _nix_ $ per month *
[05:33] <ID_EGO_> Im am having trouble with rsync preserving permissions
[05:33] <Coosh> NIMBY, Theres been some major improvments to directx 9 with wine so it might be worth it to check out that for your games..
[05:34] <skyline> like all of us.. some time ago.. ;]
[05:34] <Dr_willis> i saw some artical on installing directx9 with wine  today.
[05:34] <delete> Coosh, hmm i do recall it saying "CLI Install"
[05:34] <ID_EGO_> let me rephrase
[05:34] <delete> Coosh, if it says CLI thats command line
[05:34] <Dr_willis> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2334 Some info on Wine and directx
[05:34] <Coosh> delete, heh nopers don't see that..
[05:34] <simion314> Hi, i have an error  when i compile a program monodevelop,  :/bin/sh: -o: not found, i do not know what i am missing, , more detailed output message here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45968/
[05:34] <delete> Coosh, im running Xubuntu so it may be different
[05:35] <ID_EGO_> i can not get rsync over ssh to preserve file and folder permissions, all the files and folders get the administrator account as the group and owner
[05:35] <phoenix__> hey all
[05:35] <ID_EGO_> i have read that you need to use root to preserve, but root login is disabled
[05:36] <EvilSHAME> anyone know how to watch videos via mplayer in cli?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> EvilSHAME,  odly enough. i can use 'mc' and it will do that automaticially when i select a video.. i have NO idea what keys controll the player however.
[05:36] <multidex> can i use the 'locate' command with a switch that will only give me executible files?
[05:36] <delete> ID_EGO_, you can login as root but it is almost frowned upon
[05:36] <IdleOne> Dr_willis: http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/11/directx-90c-on-linux-with-wine.html posted couple minutes ago in -offtopic
[05:36] <ID_EGO_> i know
[05:36] <Jimd1> I'm having some issues with sound on a new install of 7.10 on a laptop.  i just deleted an install of fedora 8 that had mp3 and movies/divx playing fine.  I had winxp on it for some time and it played sound fine.  What happens is that the computer starts and I hear the start up sound but 1/2 way through the start up sound the audio playback stops.  From that point on I get no sound.  I then installed amarok and the mp3 codes and when I p
[05:37] <ID_EGO_> delete_ is there a way around it?
[05:37] <pteague> xinerama or twinview using an nvidia card?
[05:37] <owen1_> Dr_willis: thanks, i think i have static ip now!
[05:37] <Coosh> EvilSHAME, mplayer videoname.avi   most of your features are 1-0 on your keyboard fast forward and reweind are up and down and left and right (one goes faster then the other)
[05:37] <pteague> also thinking of using xvmc
[05:37] <delete> ID_EGO_, what do you mean to disable the login of root?
[05:37] <NIMBY> Thanks everyone for your help, I will sort wine and WoW out later on, off to play with compwiz etc :)
[05:37] <ID_EGO_> like root is disabled and i am not going to enable it
[05:37] <terrorxs> i cant get into xwindows, i messed up the displays, i have two...how do I reset it to get back in?
[05:37] <ID_EGO_> our ssh server gets attacked 24/7
[05:38] <EvilSHAME> umm
[05:38] <EvilSHAME> it doesn't work
[05:38] <EvilSHAME> I get a shit load of errors
[05:39] <greylurk> g
[05:39] <Coosh> EvilSHAME, depends on what the errors are to tell ya further..
[05:39] <EvilSHAME> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-VO) device.
[05:39] <Coosh> EvilSHAME, my best recommendation would be to start pluggin those errors your getting into google and see what the general consus is
[05:40] <EvilSHAME> haha dang, cause I'm kinda in cli
[05:40] <kkathman> windows pisses me off
[05:40] <EvilSHAME> so I hate using web browsers as I can't c/p
[05:40] <EvilSHAME> :)
[05:40] <multidex> how do i find where the executible file 'firefox' is?
[05:40] <ID_EGO_> basically i am typing: sudo rsync -e ssh -avz "file" administrator@host:/"folder"
[05:40] <Jimd1> anyone have any ideas on my sound problem?
[05:40] <Coosh> EvilSHAME, are you trying to play videos completely in command line as in you want to watch it on the console ?
[05:40] <harushimo> hey everyone
[05:40] <kkathman> why cant windows pick up a printer on my linux box!!!!
[05:40] <harushimo> I have a question for you
[05:41] <ID_EGO_> when it copys over all the folders and files are owned by administrator
[05:41] <harushimo> does anyone have a problem going to full screen mode when streaming video
[05:41] <multidex> Jimd1: you have alsa modules, all of them?
[05:41] <simion314> Hi, i have an error  when i compile a program monodevelop,  :/bin/sh: -o: not found, i do not know what i am missing, , more detailed output message here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45968/
[05:41] <multidex> i mean packages
[05:41] <delete> multidex, mostlikely its in /usr/share
[05:41] <ID_EGO_> its going to be a pain if i have to restore them because we have many users
[05:41] <harushimo> I'm having that problem
[05:42] <harushimo> anyone
[05:42] <EvilSHAME> meh
[05:42] <multidex> delete: thanks, i wish i could use locate or find to track down the executibles
[05:42] <EvilSHAME> thanks anyways
[05:42] <Jimd1> multidex:  no idea.  i just installed.  i have several other linux installs on desktops that didn't require that I install any extra also stuff.   what modules are you referring to?
[05:42] <Coosh> EvilSHAME, you need to add options to rsync
[05:42] <Jimd1> multidex:  alsa* stuff
[05:42] <multidex> Jimd1: use synaptic and search for 'ALSA'
[05:42] <harushimo> just curious, why streaming video doesn't work properly on linux
[05:43] <weltschmerz> anyone know why compiz only works for one user for me?
[05:43] <Seak> need help with drivers for my wireless insternet on my vaio i have gusty  on it with a atheros built in
[05:43] <Coosh> ID_EGO_,you need to add options to rsync, there is a swithc to perserve owner/perms what not.. do a man sync it will tell you in there
[05:43] <harushimo> why does that happen
[05:43] <Jimd1> that alone will result in a ton of hits in synaptic.  i doubt installing everything would be wise.
[05:43] <multidex> harushimo: do you have mplayer with gstreamer packages?
[05:43] <ID_EGO_> If I do: sudo rsync -e ssh -avz it should work
[05:43] <bullgard4> udevd is the 'event managing daemon'. What do the letters 'udevd' stand for?
[05:43] <harushimo> yeah but I can't full screen on some sites
[05:43] <harushimo> why is that
[05:44] <multidex> Jimd1: it will get you in the right direction I believe
[05:44] <ID_EGO_> -a contains all switched to preserve the permissions
[05:44] <mwilliam13> hello?  Anyone know of a decent place to find some very appealing and artistic backgrounds that are ubuntu centric?
[05:44] <Coosh> ID_EGO_, try doing it without tunnelling thru ssh to see if thats whats stopping it?
[05:44] <IdleOne> !eyecccandy | mwilliam13
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eyecccandy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <IdleOne> !eyecandy | mwilliam13
[05:45] <ubotu> mwilliam13: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:45] <robert__> hey can anybody help me get some snow effect on my desktop...i don't know how to do it i have googled it and everything
[05:46] <Jimd1> multidex:  remember tho, it works under fedora 8 and the sound starts to play upon initialization of the gui and gnome.  it just terminates 1/2 way through the playback and never recovers.
[05:46] <ID_EGO_> Cooch, I have a local rsync script that works fine via snapshot backups
[05:46] <mwilliam13> thank you...  :)
[05:46] <ID_EGO_> i think it must be ssh
[05:46] <multidex> the executible file 'firefox' is not in /usr/share ...  why does it taunt me so?
[05:46] <ID_EGO_> btw, i am going from 1 machine to another
[05:47] <Jimd1> multidex:  is there a way to tell it to restart alsa at the command line?
[05:47] <ID_EGO_> i am working on a remote backup server
[05:47] <multidex> Jimd1: sounds like my ex ... just kidding
[05:47] <ID_EGO_> 1 question, do I need to have all the users on the destination machine for it to preserve?
[05:48] <harushimo> i'm about download amd64 version of ubuntu, this should work with my intel dual core duo right?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> harushimo,  yes.. but you may want to ask yourself. do you really need the 64bit?
[05:49] <harushimo> I would like to utlize my processor since I have it
[05:49] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/11/26/32bit-vs-64bit-ubuntu-that-is-the-question/
[05:49] <multidex> Jimd1: what do you have set under System->Preferences->sound?
[05:49] <robert__> what's so bad about the 64 bit?
[05:49] <jacob_> someone please tell me what i'm doing wrong if anything is ok with these outputs let me know. http://pastebin.com/m42dba65c
[05:49] <harushimo> I agree I might not need it
[05:49] <zetheroo> I want to setup Ubuntu Server on a Thinkpad ... is there some good documentation and How-To's for this?
[05:49] <ID_EGO_> has anyone ever successfully created a remote backup server using ssh and rsync here?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> harushimo,   may want to check the url i just posted. :) personally ive never gained from 64bit.  the  Numbercrunching tasks i do. never seem to gain from it.
[05:50] <ID_EGO_> this seems more of a GUI disto based channel
[05:50] <jacob_> never mind i got it
[05:50] <zetheroo> I want to setup Ubuntu Server on a Thinkpad ... is there some good documentation and How-To's for this?
[05:50] <delete> Jimd1, if you need to restart alsa you need to navigate to the folder where it is installed and type alsa restart
[05:51] <calc> or just run /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[05:51] <calc> running commands in the directory without ./foo won't work unless . is in your path anyway
[05:52] <harushimo> Dr_willis: I just check it
[05:53] <delete> calc, yea i forgot about that
[05:53] <terrorxs> where do I find the xfree display settings, if I cannot get into xfree?
[05:54] <harushimo> Dr_willis: which version should I get
[05:54] <harushimo> of ubuntu now
[05:55] <Dr_willis> harushimo,  depends on what youa re going to do.. If just genreal desktop/websurfing/games/emulation - id say stick with 32 bit.
[05:55] <eylisian> ID_EGO_, BackupPC rawks it for rsync and ssh backups. Set up passwdless SSH for it.
[05:55] <delete> 64 bit seem pointless
[05:56] <sainzeo> hey everyone, i'm unable to enter a password into the authentication dialog using Terminal Server Client while running Compiz - any suggestions?
[05:56] <harushimo> Dr_willis: I do some scripting, I want to fool around with blender and other open source software
[05:56] <Rubin> is there a way to add other folders to the list on the left in the file browser?
[05:56] <zetheroo> is there a room for Ubuntu Server Edition?
[05:56] <Rubin> next to Documents, Music, Videos, etc
[05:56] <harushimo> if the 32 bit is good enough, I'll get it
[05:57] <Dr_willis> harushimo,  i doubt if you will gain much from 64 bits then.. blender MIGHT gain a little boost.
[05:57] <razorbuzz> Good morning all.  I've recently installed the Frontpage Extensions to my Apache2 configuration.  Is there a way to test whether or not they were installed correctly from my linux box?  I don't use, nor have access to, FrontPage, and the person using it to upload his site is less than tech-suavy so I need to verify before giving the connection info
[05:58] <bmwerks> is there a command i can use to delete something tht wont let me delete it? its not an essential file
[05:59] <harushimo> Dr_willis: ok
[05:59] <sn00zer> bmwerks: sudo rm <file>
[05:59] <Coosh> OMG FRIGIN RETARTED
[05:59] <bmwerks> thanks
[06:00] <ID_EGO_> eylisian, I can not use backup pc because it is GUI based
[06:00] <sabaccatus> Is anyone here well versed in compiling the 80211 subsystem?
[06:00] <Coosh> I pull out my vc and use hte onboard it works, however, with the vc in there it does not output to any display both are the same FRIGIN chipset.. both nvidia 6x series
[06:00] <stuart-> what's the package name for flash player again if i wanna install it thru apt?
[06:00] <ID_EGO_> I think i figured it out
[06:00] <ID_EGO_> Adding –rsync-path=’sudo /usr/local/bin/rsync’ after the -avz options fixes this and ownerships are transferred.
[06:01] <ID_EGO_> need to test it out, i hope i dont break something
[06:01] <Dr_willis> Coosh,  does your video card have 2 Monitor connectors? The other day i had a nvidia based machine that defaulted to one port..  Another machine defaulted to the other port.. :)
[06:01] <sn00zer> stuart: either flashplugin or flashplugin-nonfree, i forget which or if it matters
[06:02] <stuart-> sn00zer, alright. thanks
[06:02] <sn00zer> stuart: there's also a flashplayer-mozilla
[06:02] <ID_EGO_> does anyone know of a good program for ubuntu server that will help out with SSH script kiddies
[06:02] <marek`> anyone have a link to interfaces file that ships with ubuntu?
[06:02] <ID_EGO_> my server is attacked 24/7
[06:02] <marek`> mine seems to have been deleted
[06:03] <marek`> or not deleted
[06:03] <bmwerks> sn00zer: it says no such file or directory but i know its there i see it in the folder
[06:03] <sabaccatus> does anyone know anything about compiling the ieee80211 subsystem?
[06:03] <marek`> but it only contains audo lo
[06:04] <StoneNote> ID_EGO_, apt-get install denyhosts
[06:05] <sn00zer> bmwerks: if you try cd to it in a terminal and it doesn't show up with $ ls then its probably already gone, maybe it will go away in the gui if you restart x (ctrl+alt+backspace)?
[06:05] <wayne_> so dose any one know about sound
[06:06] <Dr_willis> !alsa | wayne_
[06:06] <ubotu> wayne_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:07] <wayne_> tried that and my sound dose work some times
[06:08] <razorbuzz> Is there a way to test whether or not Frontpage Extensions were installed correctly?
[06:08] <boss> Hi to all
[06:08] <sainzeo> hey everyone, i'm unable to enter a password into the authentication dialog using Terminal Server Client while running Compiz - any suggestions?
[06:08] <terrorxs> Hey guys, can someone PLEASE help me fix my ubuntu install. I was configuring multiple displays, and when I logged out to apply them, it crashed xwin, now it gives me a display error. how do I go back? ive been racking my brain for the last hour trying to get this fixed to no avail.
[06:09] <boss> How to edit orca screen reader for my local language
[06:09] <wayne_> just when i try to ajust my system volume it stops
[06:09] <pteague> razorbuzz> pay the $$ for frontpage & test it or say it is & wait to see if you get any clients calling & complaining about it?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> sainzeo,  ive seen that issue with other  programs.. i THINK ive seen where shift-click may do it.. I always disable compiz :)
[06:09] <sainzeo> Dr_willis: hmm, let me try that
[06:10] <Dr_willis> sainzeo,  some one in here mentioned a  key combo that worked - i think.. :P
[06:10] <sainzeo> Dr_willis: you were right! thanks for the easy fix!!!
[06:10] <razorbuzz> pteague: I have a license for it, just no machine to install it on and it doesn't work under WINE nor CrossOver.  I know there is a way to test it from the Linux side, as I did it last time I ran through the server setup...but after a crash & rebuild, I need to test again
[06:10] <cognivore_1> tamil fonts are not working in ubuntu firefox
[06:10] <Dr_willis> sainzeo,  now dont ask me WHY it works.
[06:10] <cognivore_1> tamil fonts are not working in ubuntu firefox
[06:10] <sainzeo> Dr_willis: oh i wasn't even thinking about doing that
[06:11] <stuart-> ugh, line is too slow atm to watch how-to vids. is there any site that shows me how to install nvidia in 7.10 in text format?
[06:11] <terrorxs> can someone please freakin help me, ive asked my question like 6 times now.
[06:11] <pteague> razorbuzz> you could install virtualbox on your desktop & install windows on that... then use frontpage
[06:11] <amason__> stuart-: links ?
[06:11] <IdleOne> !patience | terrorxs
[06:11] <ubotu> terrorxs: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:12] <amason__> terrorxs: maybe people don't know
[06:12] <stuart-> amason__, ?
[06:12] <BHSPitMonkey> I have a UPS connected via USB;  when the power is disconnected, Ubuntu adds a battery icon to the panel and reports what has happened.  The problem is, my Power Preferences don't have a tab for my UPS, for me to set Low Power behavior.  Help?
[06:12] <amason__> stuart-:  have you tried using links to get it
[06:12] <terrorxs> if nobody knows this, then this distro is definately sol.
[06:12] <IdleOne> !nvidia  | stuart-
[06:12] <ubotu> stuart-: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:12] <terrorxs> all I did was mess up the config of xwindows. how do I revert it back to the defaults?
[06:12] <stuart-> IdleOne, thanks.
[06:12] <terrorxs> thats all I have been asking.
[06:13] <harushimo> alright everyone, I will be running ubuntu gutsy by tommorow. is their any tips
[06:13] <sainzeo> terrorxs: did you create a backup of xorg.conf before you started putzing with it?
[06:13] <IdleOne> terrorxs: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:13] <edman007> !xconfig | terrorxs
[06:13] <ubotu> terrorxs: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[06:13] <razorbuzz> Terror, logs of what you did to FUBAR your system would be helpful to get it corrected.  If you just want to restore to default, run a simple Google query and you'll get a howto showing up.  The UbuntuWIKI has it in it, also
[06:13] <terrorxs> well, I didnt know where xorg.conf was until it was messed up. nor did I think xwin would crash on a simple thing like extending my desktop to a second monitor
[06:13] <edman007> terrorxs, see, i told you its in their bot ;)
[06:14] <sainzeo> terrorxs: if you don't have patience, you aren't going to get anywhere
[06:14] <IdleOne> alright folks he gets the point now get off it
[06:14] <IdleOne> :)
[06:14] <choudesh> can someone go to newegg.com and tell me if they get a bad hostname (invalid hostname)
[06:14] <troubled> anyone have a url for 7.10 cd artwork?
[06:15] <BHSPitMonkey> terrorxs, you're out of luck when you go messing with system files as root without making backups or knowing what you're doing.
[06:15] <terrorxs> I have patience, but I would thing after asking my question for the past hour someone would help. :(
[06:15] <BHSPitMonkey> (Drama on IRC doesn't help, either)
[06:15] <cow_gokil> hi
[06:15] <terrorxs> BHSPitMonkey, did you read my problem. I wasnt messing with system files, i was in the display setting on xwin.
[06:15] <terrorxs> ugh.
[06:16] <tux_> Hey everybody got a simple question. On my top panel I got a couple of icon's sitting on it and they are pretty large is there anyway to resize them?
[06:16] <razorbuzz> choudesh: Works fine here.
[06:16] <IdleOne> terrorxs: sometimes it is not the question or even the tone it is asked in but the way it is formulated. your question did not make sense to me at first until I thought about it for a while and tried to figure out what you wanted
[06:16] <xargon> thanks <3
[06:16] <terrorxs> !FixRes
[06:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:16] <BHSPitMonkey> terrorxs, no, I just joined a couple minutes ago.  Ubuntu doesn't ship with a settings applet by that name.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> It pays to have ESP in here.. :)
[06:16] <IdleOne> Dr_willis: indeed
[06:16] <Dr_willis> IdleOne,  i KNEW you were going to say that.... :P
[06:17] <razorbuzz> Extra Special Psychosis?
[06:17] <IdleOne> Dr_willis: so did I :P
[06:17] <terrorxs> If you dont understand my question, or anybodies for the matter, it would be helpful to me, to ask me to rephrase it. :( instead of feeling ignored.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Oh wait that wasent esp.. that was.. err..  precognition.
[06:17] <boss> Hey everybody :anyone know how to edit orcascreen reader for my local language in tamil
[06:17] <Dr_willis> The moral of the story is  -  BACK UP your configs. :)
[06:17] <razorbuzz> terrorxs: If you don't get an answer you're looking for, it would be helpful to use Google as 90% of the questions asked in here (yours included) are found within the first 5 results of a Google search
[06:18] <bullgard4> What does the 'u' stand for in 'udev'?
[06:18] <IdleOne> terrorxs: you got your answer. fix your issue and get off this because you are starting to sound like a troll . welcome to Ubuntu. need more help ask and we will try our best to serve you but dont expect me to jump because I am not paid for this :)
[06:18] <BHSPitMonkey> terrorxs, do note that the people in here who answer questions are volunteering their spare time to do so.  Please consider that while choosing how to approach getting help in here.
[06:18] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: Universal
[06:18] <bullgard4> razorbuzz: hm
[06:18] <terrorxs> that answer didnt fix it. But I figure I'll give it another hour on my own. if not, back to windows for me.
[06:19] <amason__> terrorxs: have you tried the mailing list ?
[06:19] <IdleOne> have a nice trip and enjoy the Vista ( view )
[06:19] <amason__> terrorxs: this is just the irc forum, there are few developers here or any of the motu team
[06:19] <amason__> terrorxs:  just users
[06:20] <Dr_willis> terrorxs,  if  you are so impatient and dont want to learn.. well.. good luck.  with linux it pays to learn the FUNdaMENTALS. :)
[06:20] <amason__> so don't be too shocked if you have a problem and people don't know the answer
[06:20] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: udev is for Universal Devices so only devises actually connected are shown in /dev.  Think of UPNP and the logic follows
[06:20] <terrorxs> amason, I do thank you for your help. I just get frustrated when I get ignored for an hour, then it takes me to show im a bit peeved to get a response from people.
[06:20] <BHSPitMonkey> Again, being a drama queen doesn't help.  Most of us really don't care what you choose to use, so threatening to leave is neither reputable nor effective.
[06:21] <arghh2d2> anybody know how /quit
[06:21] <amason__> terrorxs: you don't need to show your peeved. You aren't ignored. If someone knows they will help
[06:21] <Dr_willis> There is also a lot of good wiki pages/docs out on setting up Twinview and dual head monitors.
[06:21] <IdleOne> terrorxs: we responded only because we didnt want you to go ahead and start cursing or something and get yourself banned and then go tell all your friends how much ubuntu sucks because you couldnt wait long enough to get the problem fixed :)
[06:21] <delete____> terrorxs, this happens alot seeing as people are constantly searching around for infor on people problems
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Of course with 1000+ people in here..  not all questions get seen by everyone.
[06:21] <bullgard4> razorbuzz: The term 'UPNP' is of relatively old age compared to 'udev'. So other aspects may have been taken into account when coining the name 'udev'.
[06:21] <amason__> terrorxs: it's a friendly environement but few of us are experts
[06:22] <razorbuzz> terrorxs: Sometimes that's the way it is.  I asked my question twice, felt as if pteague's response was overly sarcastic, but got over it and went on trying to find an answer elsewhere and here.  Between the 4 exchanged messages w/ pteague, my solution was found.
[06:22] <amason__> terrorxs: the best resources are the documentation wiki and the mailling list
[06:22] <BHSPitMonkey> terrorxs, there are 1118 nicks in this channel as of writing.  Very few of them are advanced, long-time linux users.  What exactly is your threshold for being "ignored"?
[06:22] <mrpockets_> should I be able to listen to radio stations with all 4 speakers with Movie Player?
[06:23] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: The "universal" is the point I was making. UPNP is for Plug and Pray technologies, UDEV is similar in that it recognizes devices that are connected, as opposed to listing all possible devices...but still has that 'universal' pool to pull from
[06:23] <BHSPitMonkey> mrpockets_, have you set it so in the settings?
[06:23] <mrpockets_> in the Movie player settings i have
[06:23] <mrpockets_> and in Volume controll i have everything up that looks like its in refferance ot the rear speakers
[06:23] <mrpockets_> but i've got no sound outta the rears
[06:24] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev
[06:24] <simion314> hi, i have a question, what is tracked process? it start running and it takes  me more then 80% of CPU?
[06:25] <BHSPitMonkey> mrpockets_, hmm.  Back in the Volume Control, do you have anything on the Switches tab set for the rear speakers?
[06:25] <powder> simion314, that is the tracker daemon
[06:25] <usser> simion314, trackerd is a desktop search daemon
[06:25] <IdleOne> simion314: /usr/bin/trackerd
[06:26] <usser> simion314, if u dont use desktop search it is safe to just turn it off
[06:26] <Semidios> Hi.  My Desktop folder got moved out of my home directory and deleted by accident.  I created a new folder in my home directory called Desktop and put my stuff back in it, but nothing shows up on my Desktop.  Any ideas?
[06:26] <IdleOne> usser: how so?
[06:26] <IdleOne> usser: I mean how do you turn it off?
[06:27] <simion314> thx, can i remove it with apt then? i remove the search from the panel
[06:27] <bullgard4> razorbuzz: The article which you hinted at does not mention 'universal' but 'user space'.
[06:27] <usser> IdleOne, i dunno just kill it
[06:27] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: User Space is where udev is executed, as opposed to devFS (now deprecated) being run in Kernel Space
[06:28] <usser> IdleOne, or better yet go to tracker preferences and disable indexing
[06:28] <bullgard4> razorbuzz: Yes. *thumb up*
[06:28] <troubled> Does anyone here know of any good 7.10 cd artwork?
[06:28] <usser> IdleOne, that way trackerd will be running but not doing cpu consuming indexing operations\
[06:28] <mrpockets_> BHSPitMonkey: no
[06:28] <mrpockets_> nothing "rear:
[06:29] <dion> is any1 familiar with easycam? it has a problem with the makefile
[06:29] <dd> hello, i have tons of processors by user nobody running - i forget how to kill all processors by a specific user - anybody?
[06:29] <mrpockets_> just "surround"
[06:29] <simion314> i can't kill this tracked
[06:29] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: Was there a point to that "exercise"?
[06:30] <troubled> dd: man killall
[06:30] <usser> simion314, why? do u use sudo kill?
[06:30] <powder> dd, killall -u USER PROCESS
[06:30] <BHSPitMonkey> mrpockets_, I know the options vary from card to card, but I have one called "Channel Mode".  I'm just going out on limbs here;  it sounds like it could be a bug.
[06:30] <dd> troubled: or you could have just replied in that line with the right command, so much easier.
[06:30] <mrpockets_> hmm
[06:30] <mrpockets_> i dont know
[06:30] <bullgard4> razorbuzz: Yes. I did not know, and I wanted to know.
[06:30] <powder> dd, see killall --help
[06:30] <dd> powder: doing that does appear to kill all by user nobody
[06:31] <mrpockets_> IT also wont give me sounds in Flashplayer online
[06:31] <dd> powder: doesnt* rather
[06:31] <troubled> dd: so, you would prefer I just do the learning for you?
[06:31] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: Ok. Just came off as argumentative more so than questioning, so I was just wondering. But it may be my lack of sleep...about time for me to head that way anyway
[06:31] <dd> troubled: no, but when i have the time i will read the manual again, for now, i just need to do that one specific thing.
[06:31] <simion314> user: i succed to stop it then kill it, i do not know why it start and what it was doing there?
[06:31] <troubled> dd: then do killall --help
[06:32] <usser> simion314, go to system-preferences-indexing preferences and disable indexing
[06:32] <bullgard4> razorbuzz: Please do not take it that I wanted to try anybody or to police anybody. I did not know and I was curious where the name comes from.
[06:33] <razorbuzz> bullgard4: No worries. =)
[06:33] <powder> dd, have you tried adding -v to see the output?
[06:33] <CoasterMaster> What's the best way to send a large file from one computer to another?
[06:33] <CoasterMaster> across the Internet
[06:34] <mrpockets_> BHSPitMonkey: it seems as though none of the volume controll is working
[06:34] <mrpockets_> under any of the devices, if i turn Master all the way down the sound is uneffected.
[06:34] <simion314> <usser: i hated this feature in XP, now they put it in Ubuntu, i completly romved tracker, hope it will not breake something :-)
[06:35] <mrpockets_> do i need some kind of restricted drivers for my sound cars?
[06:35] <mrpockets_> card
[06:35] <usser> simion314, heh yea completely useless if u ask me u gotta know where stuff is located on YOUR computer and not use some lame search
[06:36] <IdleOne> simion314: you could of just disabled in System>Prefs>Indexing Prefs
[06:37] <BHSPitMonkey> mrpockets_, try this in a terminal:       sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:38] <mrpockets_> nothing
[06:38] <timob> does the trackerd / tracker-search-tool work correctly ..... im thinking of going back to beagle
[06:38] <rapid> i borked the sudoers file, and can't sudo anymore from my main account should I boot the cd and mount the partition and fix the conf maybe?
[06:39] <simion314> if someone here is good with networking i have a problem , a strange problem on m ubuntu , more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3843076 , it is a conflict betwen a modem and a network card
[06:39] <timob> rapid cant u boot into single user mode?
[06:39] <riotkittie> rapid: why not boot into recovery mode from GRUB? assuming you didnt remove the entry from menu list
[06:39] <riotkittie> menu.lst, rather.
[06:40] <krim> Is there any way to see information about updates in aptitude? Like a descripton.
[06:40] <rapid> timob / riotkittie: oh that sounds better. i'll give that a shot.
[06:40] <CoasterMaster> krim: there's a little down arrow in the update manager that will give additional details on the ubdate
[06:40] <asathoor> I cannot use a usb webcam on a amd64 system, video0 is used by a tvcard - any suggestions how to solve this?
[06:40] <dion> is any1 familiar with easycam? it has a problem with the makefile
[06:41] <asathoor> dion >> why not get it via apt-get?
[06:41] <krim> CoasterMaster: Yeah I know, I'm looking for the same in aptitude.
[06:41] <mrpockets_> hmm
[06:41] <oneeyedelf1> I installed on an amd64 bit system and for some reason the cpu scheduler never seems to adjust the speed, cat /proc/cpuinf always states that the cpu speed ins 1000
[06:41] <mrpockets_> i just plugged the speakers into the onboard sound and its working fine
[06:41] <mrpockets_> :-\ poor SB
[06:41] <usser> oneeyedelf1, im sure it does when u do something heavy
[06:42] <asathoor> brb
[06:42] <usser> oneeyedelf1, i was thinking the same
[06:42] <dion> asathoor, i have the app installed but IT has a problem and the error message sez makefile (the rest is in french)
[06:42] <CoasterMaster> krim, oh lol I didn't see that, sorry
[06:42] <usser> oneeyedelf1, until launched quake wars :)
[06:42] <BHSPitMonkey> mrpockets_, I would search ubuntuforums with your sound card's model name/number, if you haven't already.  Aside from that, I'm out of ideas :/
[06:43] <MasterShrek> oneeyedelf1, as usser said, your cpu'
[06:43] <MasterShrek> s clock speed will change when not in use
[06:43] <asathoor> back
[06:43] <mrpockets_> BHSPitMonkey:  'eh, so long as its working fine with the onboard shit, I'm not too worried about it
[06:43] <IdleOne> dion: show me the error if it isnt more then one line
[06:43] <BHSPitMonkey> mrpockets_, language...
[06:44] <dion> hang plz
[06:44] <CoasterMaster> Is there a good commandline nzb processor?
[06:44] <usser> whats up with intel 965 graphics is it supported?
[06:45] <oneeyedelf1> MasterShrek:  usser I was doing something cpu intensive and it never adjusted
[06:45] <dion> error sez 'erreur lors de la commande Make Install
[06:46] <IdleOne> dion: error during make Install
[06:46] <dion> yup, is wot i thought, i tried to run manually, but the error message is Much bigger
[06:46] <IdleOne> !webcams
[06:46] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:47] <timob> !tracker
[06:47] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[06:47] <dion> duznt help
[06:47] <dion> it points me to the easycam app
[06:48] <asathoor> !mythtv
[06:48] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[06:48] <IdleOne> dion: what does easycam do?
[06:49] <dion> is supposd to install and setup ur webcam, detects it fine, just wont install it, and is in french -bugga-
[06:51] <DP> nm-applet sees my wireless card, but networkmanager thinks it's wired. help.
[06:51] <IdleOne> dion: use !pastebin to paste that longer error you got and try asking in #ubuntu-fr for help in english or in here for someone who can read french. good luck buddy I'm off to bed
[06:51] <dion> thanx idleone
[06:51] <asathoor> DP >> try to configure it via iwconfig
[06:51] <krim> Earlier someone asked how to check if you're using 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu, someone said 'uname -r' and the person got '2.6.22-14-generic' and was told it was 32-bit, however that's what I get too and I run 64bit. How would you actually check that?
[06:51] <asathoor> !iwconfig
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:52] <Semidios> Hi.  My Desktop folder got moved out of my home directory and deleted by accident.  I created a new folder in my home directory called Desktop and put my stuff back in it, but nothing shows up on my Desktop.  Any ideas?
[06:52] <Limbonic_Art> What can I use for setting up a virtual webcam using video files?
[06:52] <usser> krim, do uname -a somewhere along the lines it has to have x86_64 if u 64bit
[06:53] <dion> DP- do u have both wired and wireless?
[06:53] <krim> usser: Yeah that was it! Thanks, good to know.
[06:53] <IdleOne> Limbonic_Art: webcam-server
[06:53] <IdleOne> try it out
[06:53] <IdleOne> good night
[06:53] <ghvg> hola
[06:54] <DP> dion, it shows the wireless as wired
[06:54] <MasterShrek> oneeyedelf1, try downloading an archive of a kernel or soemthign and untarring it, then check your cpu frequency while its doing that
[06:54] <DP> yet with nm-applet I can set the ssid & wep key
[06:54] <dion> yea, it did that to mine as well, but i do have both, i had to install the wireless usein ndiswrapper
[06:55] <Limbonic_Art> IdleOne: How do I choose a file for webcam-server? I don't see an option for it
[06:55] <NIMBY> Hi, just to let you know that following on from when I edited my grub menu.lst file earlier, all was well until I deleted the partition that linux used to be on, then I started getting grub error 22, so as I'm dual booting vista I booted from vista disc then chose repair and at cli typed bootrec.exe /fixmbr then bootrec.exe /fixboot that allowed me to boot back into vista
[06:56] <gaten> i want to start tightvnc sever on display :0. i don't like vino server, so that's not an option ;) the error i get is: "A VNC server is already running as :0". i assume this is because the x server is using display 0, but there has to be a way to share it (like vino does). any ideas?
[06:56] <NIMBY> I then used supergrub cd from ---> http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/ and rebuilt the grub file and now my dual boot is all sorted
[06:56] <corevette> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Firefox_2_0_0_10_Released_2
[06:56] <timob> sweet
[06:57] <NIMBY> I hope you find this info useful, Im off to bed so wish you all farewell for now :)
[06:57] <Limbonic_Art> What can I use for setting up a virtual webcam using video files?
[06:59]  * ghvg hello
[06:59] <ghvg> hello
[06:59] <SD__> ]]]]]]]]]
[06:59] <_nix_> Limbonic_Art: I guess dumping raw video data to your cam device should do the trick.. dd if=<file> of=/dev/<device>
[06:59] <MrPockets> quickely
[06:59] <MrPockets> is there like a CTRL_ALT_DELETE of Linux?
[07:00] <pteague> anybody know what i need in the way of hardware for dual-monitors?  i'm wanting to go with nvidia
[07:00] <Amaranth> MrPockets: gnome-system-monitor
[07:00] <MrPockets> how do i trigger it?
[07:00] <timob> guess
[07:00] <Amaranth> you open it with alt-f2 or a terminal
[07:00] <Limbonic_Art> _nix_: Using webcam-server?
[07:00] <CoasterMaster> MrPockets, do you want the system window or immediately kill all running programs?
[07:01] <_nix_> Limbonic_Art: raw idea.. I don't have a webcam myself
[07:01] <MrPockets> my desktops acting real funky
[07:01] <Limbonic_Art> _nix_: Neither do I.
[07:01] <Limbonic_Art> So what app do I use?
[07:01] <Amaranth> MrPockets: In that case logout
[07:01] <MrPockets> CoasterMaster:  i want something that, when the system locks up or is acting funky, i can pop up in emergency
[07:01] <MrPockets> and be like,  HEY, STOP!
[07:02] <Amaranth> MrPockets: When the system is locked up it's locked up, you can't open anything
[07:02] <MrPockets> lol
[07:02] <MrPockets> I'm aware of that
[07:02] <CoasterMaster> MrPockets, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE immediately kills all running programs, logs you out and brings you back to the login window (if your system is still responding)
[07:02] <Amaranth> MrPockets: When something is acting funky you click the X and a force quit dialog comes up
[07:02] <MrPockets> k
[07:02] <MrPockets> thanks guys
[07:02] <MrPockets> night.
[07:02] <CoasterMaster> MrPockets, and that too, usually the X button will still work
[07:02] <_nix_> Limbonic_Art: I'm not sure about which app.. sorry
[07:02] <MrPockets> CoasterMaster:  well in this case my mouse disapeared.
[07:02] <Limbonic_Art> :[
[07:03] <CoasterMaster> oh :(
[07:03] <sauvin> Lockups in linux happen for me so rarely I forget how to react when it DOES happen.
[07:03] <timob> MrPockets: ctrl-alt-backspace ... will restart your X server
[07:03] <boss> HI amol
[07:03] <boss> amol:how to edit orca screen reader
[07:05] <patbam> hi, this package seems to have been available in edgy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/python/python-syck but i'm on gutsy now & it doesn't seem to show up (i am using the universe repos)
[07:06] <CoasterMaster> Does Ubuntu have Magic Sysrq enanbled?
[07:06] <JJtech> patbam: what r you trying to do?
[07:07] <_nix_> CoasterMaster: yes
[07:07] <pteague> i'm guessing if i go with twinview i should probably go with 2 square monitors instead of 2 wide screens?  or any idea if i could go with 1 square & 1 widescreen?
[07:07] <patbam> JJtech: i want to do apt-get install python-syck
[07:07] <jsoft> Ok, is ubuntu in any way clean, and lean, and tidy, as in like bsd or slackware.
[07:07] <jsoft> I just want a distro that is _clean_ but has up to date packages.
[07:07] <pjeide> pt
[07:08] <pjeide> pteague: I have a 22" 1680x1050 LCD and a 15" 1024x768 side by side running off a Geforce 6200
[07:08] <pjeide> and using nvidia-settings I was able to configure the setup within minutes
[07:08] <n2diy> jsoft: Ubuntu can be as clean and mean as you want it to be, with the minimal install.
[07:08] <_nix_> jsoft: what's a _clean_ distro? looks? no-bloat??
[07:09] <jsoft> no bloat, as in not a gig install, I want it minimal.
[07:09] <pteague> pjeide> cool, is that using xinerama, twinview, or something nvidia specific?
[07:09] <jsoft> < 200mb install by default
[07:09] <pjeide> hmmm
[07:09] <jsoft> then I install _only_ the things I want.
[07:09] <_nix_> oh boy.. go with ubuntu minimal
[07:09] <pjeide> pteague: honestly I just apt-get nvidia-glx-nwe and nvidia-settings
[07:09] <n2diy> jsoft: down load the minimal install disk.
[07:09] <amidaniel> jsoft: That's one of the things I really like about ubuntu. It pretty much just gives you the essentials.
[07:09] <pjeide> and in one of the tabs I setup the resolution for each screen
[07:09] <amidaniel> Except for that Evolution mail crap
[07:09] <amidaniel> Which I uninstall everytime I do a new ubuntu install
[07:09] <pjeide> pteague: guessing since I used nvidia-settings and the nvidia drivers, it must be twinview..?
[07:10] <pjeide> i did not configure it manually in xorg.conf
[07:10] <patbam> is there some way to know whether a particular package is officially no lnoger supported in gutsy besides doing apt-cache search <packagename>
[07:10] <pjeide> pteague: therefore kde ubuntu thinks I have a 2704x1050 desktop
[07:11] <_nix_> patbam: you can check out packages.ubuntu.com
[07:11] <timob> or !find to uboto
[07:11] <pteague> pjeide> ah ok cool...  wasn't sure...  all my current stuff is ati :( ...  trying to put together some stuff for a workstation for my new job
[07:11] <timob> or maybe just !package name
[07:11] <_nix_> !bastille
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bastille - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <pjeide> pteague: from my experience with this 6200 and a 7600 on a different box, it is not a big hassle
[07:12] <patbam> _nix_: thanks
[07:12] <_nix_> !find bastille
[07:12] <ubotu> Found: bastille
[07:12] <pjeide> but as I said, I didn't configure it manually through xorg.conf
[07:12] <pteague> pjeide> what video cards are you using?  or is there a dual monitor nvidia card?
[07:12] <_nix_> lol
[07:12] <pjeide> pteague: many nvidia cards are dual monitor
[07:12] <pjeide> both this 6200 and my other 7600 are dual monitor
[07:13] <pjeide> geforce 6200 and 7600
[07:14] <patbam> _nix_: how would you interpret the fact that a package (python-syck) is available in edgy and hardy, but not gutsy (which i'm using)?
[07:15] <_nix_> patbam: in the website packages.ubuntu.com ; there's a drop down box to show packages from a particular version
[07:15] <n2diy> ! backports | patbam
[07:15] <ubotu> patbam: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[07:15] <jsoft> So this ubuntu minimal thing has minmal stuff (obviously) but still uses the same... erm... package repositorys that um, the.. erm.. normal ubuntu uses?
[07:15] <_nix_> jsoft: yes
[07:16] <EruditeHermit> hi, is there a backport of the xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.2 driver for gutsy?
[07:16] <jsoft> Ok.
[07:17] <pjeide> jsoft: that um the erm, eh?
[07:18] <_nix_> lol
[07:18] <h1st0> EruditeHermit: did you check int he backports?
[07:19] <_nix_> peace
[07:19] <jsoft> pjeide: repositorys.
[07:19] <jsoft> erm.
[07:19] <h1st0> pjeide: just use System > admin > restricted driver manager to install the drivers
[07:19] <jacob_> can somebody explain to me why this error shows up? or is normal and continue? http://pastebin.com/m157d99f3
[07:19] <champen> join #ubuntu-dk
[07:19] <pjeide> h1st0: ok?
[07:20] <pteague> pjeide> hmm...  going through a couple sites... looks like there's a bunch of different brands...  you have a preference?
[07:20] <h1st0> pjeide: err sry meant to say that to someone else
[07:20] <pjeide> :)
[07:20] <pjeide> pteague: I've had great success with EVGA cards thus far
[07:20] <KinGBaKeRo> hi
[07:20] <pjeide> pteague: my last few have been evga along with a couple friends
[07:21] <pjeide> pteague: I've also had a good diamondtek card..
[07:21] <champen> ? question how can i join a Dk channel
[07:21] <jacob_> the error includes "configure: error: cdparanoia headers not found""
[07:21] <pjeide> pteague: I would stay away from BFG-Tech though.. overpriced identicals
[07:21] <h1st0> pjeide: running evga here
[07:21] <ere4si> champen it is /j #ubuntu-dk
[07:21] <champen> ty
[07:21] <ere4si> k
[07:22] <Varka> jacob_, sudo apt-get install libcdio-paranoia-dev libcdparanoia0-dev
[07:22] <mattgyver83> My laptop has a touchpad mouse, is there a way to disable the "tap click" i dont know what else to call it ';|
[07:22] <jacob_> i have a question, the recorded conversations in konversation stays in the hard drive for ever or do they expire?
[07:22] <CoasterMaster> mattgyver83, System -> Preferences -> Mouse, then touchpad tab
[07:22] <patbam> ok, so if the package i want isn't in gutsy backports, am i more or less out of luck as far as installing from apt goes? (i guess i can just install the tarball and be done with it)
[07:23] <mattgyver83> CoasterMaster, i dont see anything like that.
[07:23] <pjeide>  pteague: i cannot recommend www.newegg.com enough for hardware purchases
[07:24] <pjeide> pteague: And if you are interested in reading customer reviews, newegg has the largest community for an online hardware retailer
[07:24] <n2diy> patbam: in some cases the tarball is more up to date than a package is, especially with CVS.
[07:24] <pjeide> pteague: I have been doing business with them for numerous years and they have treated me right every step of the way
[07:24] <pteague> pjeide> hehe... that's where i was looking =)
[07:24] <CoasterMaster> mattgyver83, what kind of touchpad do you have?
[07:24] <pteague> got my last mini-itx from newegg
[07:24] <pjeide> pteague: Ah.. good :0 you said were checking numerous sites.. i was worried
[07:25] <MurielGodoi> How to get my pcmcia tv tuner working, That is listed in lsusb, but not added in /dev/video. The board is "ID 1164:0601 YUAN High-Tech Development Co., Ltd"
[07:25] <mattgyver83> CoasterMaster, gosh i have no idea.
[07:26] <pteague> pjeide> was also looking at tigerdirect ... got a couple of items from there as well ...  sometimes i check microcenter as well, but they usually don't have a good selection
[07:26] <pjeide> pteague: I shop microcenter locally when I'm in a pinch, but you'll end up overspending most of the time
[07:26] <patbam> n2diy: okay, i'm going to do the tarball
[07:26] <jsoft> Man, ubuntu has some _fast_ mirrors
[07:27] <pjeide> pteague: I got a new 22" widescreen for $180+$30 mailin rebate on black friday standing in line at the local Microcenter :)
[07:27]  * jsoft hopes ubuntu is not going to be another linux I just get pissed off with :/
[07:27] <n2diy> patbam: GL
[07:27] <pjeide> jsoft: I have enjoyed the ups and the downs of ubuntu
[07:27] <pteague> pjeide> hehe... i visit the store locally as well... i found it's cheaper to order off the website than from the store - no taxes =)
[07:27] <pjeide> jsoft: But now that I have it configured properly it seems pretty solid
[07:27] <pteague> any idea what the diff is between gddr2 & ddr2?
[07:27] <jsoft> configured?
[07:27] <jsoft> Ok heres a question, can I run fluxbox easy on ubutnu?
[07:28] <jsoft> Or is it some gnome only or something based distro
[07:28] <pjeide> jsoft: nvidia card dual monitor + sound drivers & compiz together made for an interesting weekend
[07:28] <pteague> jsoft> aptitude search fluxbox
[07:28] <jsoft> ok.
[07:28] <jsoft> Whats kubuntu for then
[07:29] <pjeide> ubuntu + kde instead of ubuntu + gnome
[07:29] <Varka> jsoft, http://fluxbuntu.org/js.html
[07:29] <jsoft> whaaat
[07:29] <MurielGodoi> Hi all,  Any idea about how to get my pcmcia tv tuner working? That is listed in lsusb, but not added in /dev/video. The board is "ID 1164:0601 YUAN High-Tech Development Co., Ltd"
[07:29] <pteague> ubuntu defaults to gnome, kubuntu defaults to kde, & xubuntu defaults to Xfce ...  but if you install any of them you can then install any of the others via aptitude
[07:29] <pjeide> jsoft: it is just the KDE WM instead of gnome..
[07:29] <champen_> now i can't join ubuntu dk again can anyone tell me how ?
[07:30] <pjeide> champen_: /join #ubuntu-dk
[07:30] <arooni> folks....... i want to use the quicksearch thing in gutsy........ but it doesn't seem to be indexing *anything* in /home/  .... what gives?
[07:30] <champen_> i cant
[07:30] <pteague> at work i installed ubuntu & then downloaded the kubuntu desktop...  i'm using kde on top of gdm... bad, but apparently the recovery on certain things is better on gdm
[07:31] <jsoft> pjeide: but I can essentially set up the same thing using the normal ubuntu stuff, yes?
[07:31] <pjeide> yes
[07:31] <jsoft> Schweet.
[07:31] <pjeide> it is just a different default window manager
[07:32] <Varka> jsoft, if you already decided to use fluxbox i would prefer to install http://fluxbuntu.org/js.html
[07:32] <jsoft> Well the ubuntu iso is already 60% done
[07:32] <jsoft> Might as well use that I guess
[07:32] <Varka> jsoft, its just because you are installing a lot of stuff you may not need
[07:33] <jsoft> There is no way to install only waht I want in the normal ubuntu install?
[07:33] <timob> arooni: ive the same problem....seems to be indexing but any search comes up empty
[07:33] <jacob_> varka, you think you can help me out with this? i'm trying to install BMP player, look at my output http://pastebin.com/m77f1a6f9
[07:33] <djangelo> hey everybody
[07:33] <Varka> jsoft, sure, but you have to uninstall the gnomestuff manually after installing fluxbox
[07:33] <jsoft> Ok :
[07:34] <djangelo> hey%C4hey
[07:34] <Varka> jacob_, sudo apt-get install libcdio-paranoia-dev libcdparanoia0-dev
[07:34]  * jsoft ponders
[07:34] <pteague> jsoft> you could download the ubuntu server edition & then install stuff from bash using aptitude
[07:34] <jsoft> Meh:
[07:34] <jacob_> Varka, if it's already installed (i'm a new linux user) what do i do to run it?
[07:34] <djangelo> hey everybody..
[07:35] <jacob_> Varka, is that what you told me the last time?
[07:35] <SoulChild> hey does anyone know where i can find the kernel support for "Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8039 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller" in kernel config ???
[07:36] <jacob_> Varka, i already carried out that command
[07:36] <Tabina> anyone else having trouble installing and uninstalling apps?
[07:36] <Varka> jacob_, i dont really realize why you installed it manually, its in universe repository already
[07:36] <djangelo> does anybody know why im having trouble with the menus on 7.04 feisty ???
[07:37] <jacob_> Varka, I'm having problems with it in the repository cause not all my music didn't want to be imported
[07:37] <djangelo> im running compiz and kiba dock
[07:38] <Varka> jacob_, did you install beep-media-player or bmpx?
[07:38] <jacob_> Varka, both
[07:38] <djangelo> but when u open the normal APPLICATIONS menu.. and try to browse trough sometimes when it opens a new submenu and hover the mouse over, i dont see the selection thing... like where im at right at that moment.
[07:38] <jacob_> but bmpx doesn't want to import all my music from a folder
[07:38] <jacob_> Varka: but bmpx doesn't want to import all my music froma  folder
[07:40] <jacob_> Varka, any suggestions?
[07:40] <jacob_> ...please
[07:40] <Varka> jacob_, no, sry, i dont use bmp
[07:40] <jacob_> i had bmpx installed from the repository but i removed it to install it manually
[07:42] <vanchu> anyone know of a good frontend for sdlmame
[07:42] <vanchu> ?
[07:43] <simplechat> hello
[07:43] <djangelo> hey simplechat
[07:43] <djangelo> newbie?
[07:43] <AverageJoe> hi guys i need some help with my installation
[07:44] <simplechat> i'm getting an error while rsynching, some files cannot be synched rsync: recv_generator: failed to stat "file": Permission denied (13)
[07:44] <MasterShrek> whats your problem AverageJoe ?
[07:44] <simplechat> its running as root, what would cause permission to be denied?
[07:44] <SoulChild> Does PCI-E stand for PCI-Express and could it be, that my ethernet device is on that controller ????
[07:45] <MasterShrek> SoulChild, yes pci-e is pci-express, and your ethernet device could very well be on it
[07:45] <jacob_> Varka: http://pastebin.com/m4475a16c, please help me, i'm almost there, i just don't know what to do with the remaing part of the installation
[07:45] <yapyccky> Hello, can somehome please help me? I'm getting crazt
[07:45] <simplechat> ?
[07:45] <MasterShrek> !someone
[07:45] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:45] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, the thing is when i run the installation ( alt xubuntu 7.10) it gets stuck at 21 % of copying data files and the cd rom stops working...i mean like it wont even come out anymore
[07:45] <jacob_> Varka, all libs are installed
[07:45] <pteague> hmm...  sempron, athlon 64, fx, or x2?
[07:45] <AverageJoe> but i tried runnning the same cd on my own box it works fine
[07:45] <simplechat> what would cause permissions to be denied to root?
[07:45] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, have you tested it for defects (an option on the inital boot)
[07:45] <MasterShrek> oh
[07:45] <MasterShrek> hmm
[07:45] <n2diy> simplechat: the file(s) could be open, and in use?
[07:46] <simplechat> ok.
[07:46] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, yeah i have :(
[07:46] <pteague> simplechat> the fs was mounted read-only ?
[07:46] <simplechat> so if i restart into single user mode, they shouldn't be in use?
[07:46] <MasterShrek> simplechat, whatever you are syncing to is possible mounted read-only, not sure what you are syncing to
[07:46] <simplechat> i'm currently using the drive
[07:46] <jscinoz> Whenever i open any video any videoplayer (tried totem, mplayer and vlc) the player is freezing a few moments after opening the video, and when the player is next opened it freezes before even opening a video, how can i fix this?
[07:46] <yapyccky> you're right MasterShrek :-) I'll ask. I've a DELL D820 with a Nvidia Ge force 7400 512mb vram. I dunno why my video card is really slow. i've tryied everything but it still doenst work well
[07:46] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, not really sure then, very strange because the alt installer should work
[07:46] <AverageJoe> wen i run the defect check on that box (the one i m trying to install on) it doesnt work but on my own box it works
[07:46] <MasterShrek> yapyccky, tried installing the restricted drivers for it?
[07:47] <simplechat> MasterShrek, the fs i'm synching to is fine. its just a couple files like that
[07:47] <Varka> jacob_, whats left to do? .configure, make, checkinstall?
[07:47] <pjeide> yapyccky: 7400 should be fast, I have a 6200 in this box
[07:47] <simplechat> n2diy, that might be it, do i need to restart with a boot disk?
[07:47] <yapyccky> MasterShrek, i've installed last driver from Nvidia site
[07:47] <jacob_> yes
[07:47] <jacob_> i get an error when i do make
[07:47] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, so there is nothing much to do about it now is it?
[07:47] <pjeide> AverageJoe: Bad CD drive connection? bad drive?
[07:47] <MasterShrek> yapyccky, then it should work just fine, assuming you are using nvidia in your xorg.conf
[07:47] <n2diy> simplechat: sorry, I don't know, haven't played with rsync.
[07:47] <yapyccky> pjeide, did u do smt to make it work good?
[07:47] <jacob_> Varka, i get an error when i send the command make
[07:47] <pjeide> yapyccky: I just apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[07:48] <pjeide> and nvidia-settings
[07:48] <yapyccky> MasterShrek, yes I'm doind that
[07:48] <MasterShrek> i dunno for sure AverageJoe
[07:48] <Varka> jacob_, then you should paste the error
[07:48] <AverageJoe> pjeide, the drive is allright, i tried changing the drives even
[07:48] <Thor_> oh snap....i think my getty is broke
[07:48] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[07:48] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, install it on one machine and swap the drive into it =P
[07:48] <yapyccky> MasterShrek, just to tell u what is problem. For istance, i've a file of 3,5mb in inkscape..well..when i move a object it moves after 5 seconds..and really slow
[07:48] <pjeide> MasterShrek: prolly get bad drivers that way
[07:49] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, thats a awesome idea
[07:49] <Varka> pjeide, nvidia-glx-new includes nvidia-settings, you musnt install it additionally
[07:49] <Thor_> how would i reinstall getty? I cant seem to find it in synaptic
[07:49] <ere4si> interceptor: try /j #ubuntu-ru
[07:49] <jacob_> Varka http://pastebin.com/m501e0a92
[07:49] <pjeide> Varka: yes, i said apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and then nvidia-settings
[07:49] <MasterShrek> i dunno about that, the kerenl auto loads drivers
[07:49] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, will it work...i mean the bios and all is totally different
[07:49] <pjeide> did not say apt-get install nvidia-settings :)
[07:49] <yapyccky> pjeide, i had both but now i'm using latest nvidia drivers from nvidia site
[07:49] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, i dont see why not, ive done it plenty of times
[07:49] <AverageJoe> the mother board and everything else about the system
[07:49] <AverageJoe> ok thanks MasterShrek
[07:50] <pjeide> Varka: perhaps my grammer was flawed which may have led to a misinterpretation of my logic :)
[07:50] <jacob_> Varka, maybe the space character in the directory is causing the problem
[07:50] <pjeide> yapyccky: Have a good xorg.conf?
[07:50] <yapyccky> pjeide, i guess so...but im not 100% sure
[07:50] <JJtech> hi to all...  ^_^
[07:51] <yapyccky> pjeide, yesterday 've also tried to put NvAGP to 0
[07:51] <yapyccky> to disable it
[07:51] <Varka> jacob_, i dont know for sure what has happened, but it looks like you dont have a makefile already. configure ran perfectly?
[07:51] <JJtech> are you guys both using gutsy?
[07:52] <jacob_> Varka, i had to install some libs from the repository and some i had to get online
[07:52] <jacob_> Varka: from the sympnotic package manager
[07:52] <jscinoz> Whenever i open any video any videoplayer (tried totem, mplayer and vlc) the player is freezing a few moments after opening the video, and when the player is next opened it freezes before even opening a video, how can i fix this?
[07:53] <djangelo> hi jjtech
[07:53] <yapyccky> so..none can help me?
[07:53] <JJtech> djangelo: hello
[07:53] <djangelo> yapyccky u know what i did to fix my video problem_
[07:53] <yapyccky> tell me djangelo
[07:54] <pjeide> lol
[07:54] <JJtech> yapyccky: what suppose to be the problem?
[07:54] <simplechat> hey, would root in single user mode touch /home ?
[07:54] <djangelo> i found some kind of wiki online.. that said how to reconfigure the video.. because i messed up the ati video driver..
[07:54] <yapyccky> JJtech, my ge force 7400 doesnt work good. everything works really slow
[07:54] <djangelo> so i had to start on safemode.. and input some commands to reconfigure the whole thing. and then it actually detected automatically
[07:54] <jscinoz> *officially ready to throw laptop at the wall*
[07:54] <Varka> jacob_, assuming you meant synaptic with "sympnotic" - whats the difference between installing from synaptic or from repository? synaptic is just a gui for installing from repository
[07:54] <yapyccky> djangelo, i've tryied everything and read everything i found..but nothing
[07:55] <Frogzoo> simplechat: not likely
[07:55] <yapyccky> that's why im here
[07:55] <Frogzoo> djangelo: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:55] <djangelo> let me see if i find the actual webpage i used..
[07:55] <JJtech> i presume you have fresh installed system..right?? ubuntu??
[07:55] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, i m gonna try installing is from this box now
[07:55] <JJtech> yapyccky: i presume you have fresh installed system..right?? ubuntu??
[07:55] <simplechat> Frogzoo, not likely it would touch /home or likely that it would touch /home?
[07:55] <djangelo> frogzoo yeah i tried that..
[07:55] <yapyccky> JJtech, yes . its a fresh one
[07:55] <Frogzoo> simplechat: not likely to touch /home
[07:55] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, i ll come back and ask u if anything goes wrong wight
[07:55] <djangelo> but at that time, i was unable to run my xserver
[07:55] <AverageJoe> thanks guys
[07:55] <AverageJoe> adios
[07:55] <simplechat> thanks
[07:55] <djangelo> so i had to do it on safemode..   command lines only
[07:55] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:56] <ubuntu_> is there anyone who can give me some help
[07:56] <JJtech> yapyccky: did you enabled the restricted drivers?
[07:56] <Varka> !anyone | ubuntu_
[07:56] <ubotu> ubuntu_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:56] <yapyccky> JJtech, as i already said i've installed latest NVIDIA drivers from site
[07:56] <jacob_> Varka, what i'm trying to say is that i installed some libs from the synaptic manager and some from the web sites
[07:56] <djangelo> i dont even have a restricted driver.. and im using an ATI 9200 SE
[07:56] <jscinoz> fuck you all...
[07:56] <pjeide> yapyccky: dont take an attitude
[07:57] <Varka> jacob_, and you are sure those libs are suitable fpr your ubuntu installation?
[07:57] <pjeide> you're being helped by people in their spare time
[07:57] <yapyccky> pjeide, what do u mean?
[07:57] <jacob_> Varka, i'm closing the gaps in the directory, i think that's what causing the problem
[07:57] <n2diy> yapyccky: we are volunteers.
[07:58] <yapyccky> n2diy, i know..did i say smt wrong? guys..english is not my own language...sorry if i say smt not polite
[07:58] <ubuntu_> Ok I have just gotten Ubuntu 6.06 LTS I have 2 partitions one empty 84Gig and one 24Gig with important data my first partiotion is empty and i am running off live cd is there anyway to access files in 2nd partition
[07:58] <pjeide> yapyccky: JJtech was asking a question for clarification.  rather than inform him that you've previously answered his question and he is an idiot, you could simply answer the question, as he has entered the conversation late trying to help
[07:58] <n2diy> yapyccky: you're ok.
[07:58] <yapyccky> sorry guys..i didnt want to be rude. it was not my intention
[07:58] <yapyccky> JJtech, sorry
[07:59] <pjeide> yapyccky: np
[07:59] <JJtech> yapyccky: it's okey..
[07:59] <djangelo> haahaha
[07:59] <pjeide> yapyccky: i think im just sick of rude people today :)
[07:59] <pjeide> i should go to sleep
[07:59] <jacob_> Varka, i guess not
[07:59] <pjeide> yapyccky: good luck with your issue
[07:59] <yapyccky> pjeide, uknow...italians are rude... ;-)
[07:59] <JJtech> yapyccky: what glx driver did you use?
[07:59] <djangelo> pjeide yeah, maybe its time for a good nap
[07:59] <yapyccky> pjeide, thx
[07:59] <djangelo> :D
[07:59] <yapyccky> JJtech, i think i dunno how to answer your question. how to check it?
[08:00] <ahddm>  Ok I have just gotten Ubuntu 6.06 LTS I have 2 partitions one empty 84Gig and one 24Gig with important data my first partiotion is empty and i am running off live cd is there anyway to access files in 2nd partition
[08:00] <n2diy> if you're feeling cranky, take a nap!
[08:00] <djangelo> hey yapyccky i found the thing to run the autodetect script again...
[08:00] <yapyccky> djangelo, what do u mean? about what script are u talking about?
[08:00] <jscinoz> alright...
[08:01] <djangelo> the website is....   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:01] <JJtech> yapyccky: go to add/remove programs... in search bar type 'nvidia"
[08:01] <jscinoz> When any program at all uses alsa, the program in question freezes, every program i have tested this with has returned nothing related to alsa in the terminal, what can i do?
[08:01] <djangelo> there could be a solution for you there..
[08:01] <djangelo> it helped me with my problem.. give it a try
[08:01] <yapyccky> JJtech, i've just rectricted drivres installed
[08:01] <jacob_> Karva, when i did the ./configure command, i receieved some outputs like "
[08:02] <JJtech> yapyccky: see if NVidia binary X.org driver ('new' driver) is there
[08:02] <yapyccky> djangelo, thx. i'll have a look
[08:02] <ere4si> !sound | jscinoz
[08:02] <ubotu> jscinoz: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:02] <jacob_> Varka checking for extern in libsoup headers ...no
[08:02] <JJtech> yapyccky: see if NVidia binary X.org driver ('new' driver) is marked checked..
[08:02] <yapyccky> JJtech, yes its there but not installed
[08:02] <jscinoz> ere4si, i'm not an idiot, it was working earlier and now it has stopped
[08:02] <ahddm> how can i access hard drive if i running off live cd?
[08:03] <yapyccky> JJtech, are u sure i can install it even if i've latest nvidia drivers installed from site?
[08:03] <ere4si> jscinoz: apologies for trying to help - won't happen again
[08:03] <djangelo> ahddm just click on PLACES on top of your screen
[08:03] <JJtech> yapyccky: i see.. so it has no check mark in the left box.. it means you haven't installed it yet..
[08:03] <eylisian> jscinoz, you install anything that might hose permissions?
[08:03] <djangelo> and then select... COMPUTER..
[08:03] <ahddm> i go there
[08:03] <shadghost> morning
[08:04] <JJtech> yapyccky: you don't want to install it from site...
[08:04] <yapyccky> JJtech, it ways that the application conflicts with other instalkled software ( i think its as i said...it conflicts with nvidia drivers)
[08:04] <ahddm> but once i click on 25gb volume it says cannot be ounted
[08:04] <jscinoz> eylisian, all i've done today is reinstall iwl4965 from source and then remove it (btw i need a way to get the one that comes with ubuntu back)
[08:04] <ahddm> error: device /dev/sda5 is not removable
[08:04] <ahddm> error: could not execute pmount
[08:04] <yapyccky> JJtech, so should i remove it and install nvidia-glx-new from ubuntu?
[08:04] <jscinoz> eylisian, what files should i be looking at for screwy permissions?
[08:04] <JJtech> yapyccky: hmmm.. i see, it's because you have installed a driver that conflicts the proper driver..
[08:05] <JJtech> yapyccky: yes
[08:05] <JJtech> yapyccky: yes, install from ubuntu..not from site..
[08:05] <eylisian> jscinoz, oi. all you've done you say? you mean the intel veesion, w/ the new ieee802 stack?
[08:05] <Chers_79> ha
[08:05] <Frogzoo> jscinoz: you won't have screwy permissions unless you changed them
[08:05] <ahddm> dkangelo, I go there once I click on 25.3 GB Volume it give me this error error: device /dev/sda5 is not removable
[08:05] <ahddm> error: could not execute pmount
[08:05] <shadghost> any one have expirance uesing ubuntu on a x86 mac?
[08:05] <yapyccky> JJtech, ok. i'll try. i go, i'll be back later . thx for now
[08:05] <jscinoz> just tested, the same thing happens if i run totem as root ( i know its a bad idea) so permissions probably arent it
[08:06] <yapyccky> see u later guys
[08:06] <djangelo> you should be able just to open it double clicking on it
[08:06] <JJtech> yapyccky: kk...
[08:06] <jscinoz> eylisian, i'd get you an address for the guide i followed on the fourms but firefox just died from this bug.
[08:06] <ahddm> djangelo, is it maybe because I am running off live cd in safe graphics mode?
[08:07] <eylisian> jscinoz, I think I know what you are speaking of, I had to do it for a debian laptop last week.
[08:07] <ahddm> djangelo, or that it is NTFS file system
[08:07] <djangelo> well, i did that once.. running off the live cd..
[08:07] <djangelo> and i actually was able to browse my old windows files in ntfs
[08:07] <jscinoz> eylisian, anyways since then, my wifi is borked and i have this problem where if something tries to output via alsa = program freeze
[08:07] <eylisian> jscinoz, and I just first thought permissions as when something is working just fine and then quits...
[08:08] <eylisian> well it's that or hardware right.
[08:08] <djangelo> whats the "label" of the hd u are trying to open?
[08:09] <ahddm> what do you mean by label?
[08:09] <eylisian> jscinoz, well, I would say your adventure in rebuilding core kernel modules from source borked your machine.
[08:09] <jscinoz> eylsian what do you suggest i do....
[08:09] <jscinoz> reinstall kernel?
[08:09] <ahddm> brand?
[08:09] <djangelo> yeah.. the "name"
[08:09] <djangelo> nope
[08:09] <djangelo> like for example on windows it says....  c:
[08:09] <ahddm> o ok it is 25.3 GB Volume
[08:10] <eylisian> jscinoz, back up yer data...
[08:10] <ahddm> in windows it was D:
[08:10] <jscinoz> >_<
[08:10] <jscinoz> i'll try some more before clean install
[08:10] <JJtech> *_*
[08:10] <eylisian> jscinoz, right.
[08:10] <eylisian> jscinoz, I don't blame you.
[08:10] <djangelo> well do you see any folder called Filesystem ??
[08:10] <ahddm> ya
[08:11] <djangelo> ok open that one
[08:11] <jscinoz> eylisian i'll reinstall the kernel image and the modules packages in synaptic and see if that does any good
[08:11] <eylisian> jscinoz, some heavy lifting with that intel wireless... good luck. I did have it work from scratch on a Dell Precision w/ 7.10 tho.
[08:11] <djangelo> and see if u find ur files
[08:11] <ahddm> ok
[08:11] <djangelo> like the program files folder... or the docs and settings..
[08:11] <eylisian> jscinoz, the wireless that is... your plan sounds sane.
[08:12] <djangelo> thats where i remember i found mine...
[08:12] <jscinoz> eylisian, thats the strange thing, it worked by default for me, and worked fine for a month ago and yesterday it lost connection and since then can't connect to any wpa networks, and all the other pc's in my house can just fine.
[08:12] <Awe_Schitt>  are there any Ubuntu Masters in here?
[08:12] <jscinoz> eylisian, i'll reinstall linux-ubuntu-modules-22.blahkernelversion.
[08:12] <Frogzoo> Awe_Schitt: only 1120 nubs
[08:12] <eylisian> jscinoz, and you tried all the standard modprobing etc... no dice and then decided to rebuild the intel way ;)
[08:13] <Awe_Schitt> haha
[08:13] <ahddm> all the files are files
[08:13] <jscinoz> yeah i tried reloading the module
[08:13] <ahddm> on the cd
[08:13] <jscinoz> and rebooting changed nothing either >_<
[08:13] <ahddm> none are mine
[08:13] <eylisian> jscinoz, heh. good luck man.
[08:13] <Rautamiekka> I got a problem with Dazuko
[08:14] <jscinoz> eylisian, reboot time, heres hoping...
[08:14] <djangelo> mm...
[08:14] <MasterShrek> what is dazuko?
[08:14] <Rautamiekka> Dazuko is a kernel module which allows you to use antivirus softwares with realtime scanning
[08:14] <JJtech> at first i had a hard time understanding ubuntu.. i had 11 clean installs before i did what i wanted it to be...now im looking for some more eyecandies... thanks to this support channel...
[08:14] <Rautamiekka> I installed it from its source which failed. Now I try to install it the right way using this http://allyourtech.com/content/articles/15_01_2006_installing_antivir_with_on_access_scanning_in_ubuntu_linux.php
[08:14] <KenSentMe> Is anyone here experienced with running Ruby on Rails on Ubuntu Gutsy? What is the best way to get it installed? I checked the Ubuntu wiki, but the method mentioned there doesn't work for me
[08:14] <Rautamiekka> and the building doesn't complete
[08:14] <MasterShrek> why do you need antivirus?
[08:15] <shimete> hey guys, i need some help setting up songbird on the latest distribution
[08:15] <GLaDOS> I'm installing XP and Ubuntu on one hard drive, I should install XP first, right?
[08:15] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, I want to be sure my Ubu stays clean of malware ;)
[08:15] <GLaDOS> And what filesystem format should I use
[08:15] <Frogzoo> GLaDOS: yes
[08:15] <MasterShrek> KenSentMe, there are a few guides out there for it, ive done it once, but i dont really remember how
[08:15] <GLaDOS> FAT32, NTFS or something else?
[08:15] <MasterShrek> Rautamiekka, you wont get any
[08:15] <Sopor> Hi there.
[08:15] <djangelo> ahddm: have u tried searching the web?
[08:15] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, I don't be that sure (well, I'm a windows user ...)
[08:15] <JJtech> Rautamiekka: in linux you won't need anti virus..
[08:15] <MasterShrek> GLaDOS, ntfs for xp, ext3 for ubuntu
[08:15] <ahddm> djangelo, I couldnt find anything specific
[08:15] <MasterShrek> Rautamiekka, you wont, trust me
[08:16] <GLaDOS> I only have one hard drive
[08:16] <eylisian> Rautamiekka, use chkrootkit and rkhunter. install via aptitude/synaptic etc...
[08:16] <MasterShrek> no need for antivirus in linux
[08:16] <GLaDOS> Can I have both?
[08:16] <MasterShrek> !virus | Rautamiekka
[08:16] <ubotu> Rautamiekka: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:16] <Sopor> Hum, do you know if is it normal that, when i go in my cryptlooped file /mnt/private, i must go in with gksudo ?
[08:16] <KenSentMe> MasterShrek, yeah. I've seen different guides. I was hoping to find someone who was experienced in running rails on gutsy
[08:16] <ahddm> i was thinking on reinstalling windows
[08:16] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, How to remove Dazuko from kernel modules ?
[08:16] <Rautamiekka> , then
[08:16] <ahddm> getting my files off hard drive and then installing linux
[08:17] <GLaDOS> Can I have different filesystems for different partitions?
[08:17] <MasterShrek> im not sure, how did you install it?
[08:17] <MasterShrek> GLaDOS, yes
[08:17] <djangelo> thats what i did...
[08:17] <shimete> can anyone help me with automatix 2 on gutsy?
[08:17] <djangelo> but it may take a while...
[08:17] <Frogzoo> shimete: no
[08:17] <MasterShrek> !automatix
[08:17] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[08:17] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, I went to dazuko.org and DLed the current tarball
[08:17] <Frogzoo> shimete: -> #automatix
[08:17] <MasterShrek> Rautamiekka, sudo make uninstall
[08:18] <ahddm> ill see what happens because the reason i am going to linux is because of trouble installing xp
[08:18] <shimete> frogzoo: it doesn't work at all on gutsy or what?
[08:18] <GLaDOS> How?
[08:18] <ahddm> random error during installation
[08:18] <GLaDOS> >.>
[08:18] <GLaDOS> Oh wait
[08:18] <Awe_Schitt> "NdisWrapper -l"   notice my Orinoco usb wireless but my Ubuntu Edgy (ifconfig, iwconfig) say there are no Wireless devices.... How can i get my system to connection to my wireless device?
[08:18] <ahddm> Thank you for help
[08:18] <riotkittie> you don't need to use automatix; you should not be using automatix.
[08:18] <MasterShrek> everythign automatix does is pretty easy to do manually
[08:19] <MasterShrek> in fact its probably better to do manually, so you know how to do it if you were to ever use a different distro
[08:19] <xcasex> so AD authentication, is there a clickity preference for that?
[08:19] <Tellmemore> hi people
[08:19] <djangelo> im having troubles with my window manager... whenever i run the compiz window manager...
[08:20] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, "make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop."
[08:20] <djangelo> can anybody help me with that?
[08:20] <weltschmerz> if pulseaudio is running system-wide, how can i use it?
[08:20] <eylisian> xcasex, krb5/Samba. No clickie.
[08:20] <MasterShrek> Rautamiekka, what commands did you run to install it?
[08:20] <xcasex> eylisian: ;_;
[08:20] <Tellmemore> i have a question for inspiron E1705 X1400 on XGL Set up ..
[08:20] <Frogzoo> shimete: this chan doesn't support automatix
[08:20] <xcasex> i was afraid you'd say that eylisian
[08:20] <Tellmemore> i've 2time failed XGL
[08:20] <shimete> frogzoo: thanks i'll goto the automatix one
[08:20] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, ./configure, make, sudo make uninstall
[08:21] <eylisian> xcasex, heh. It's not too bad. Waikato (sp?) LUG has a good howto on it.
[08:21] <MasterShrek> Rautamiekka, did u sudo make install ever?
[08:21] <Tellmemore> my video card is mobilty X1400 how can install XGL??
[08:21] <Rautamiekka> MasterShrek, Yes I did to install it
[08:21] <ketrox> Tellmemore, why XGL ?
[08:21] <inversekinetix> what program do i use to boot my windows xp installation in ubuntu
[08:21] <xcasex> eylisian: so has novell ironically
[08:21] <paradigm9x> just curious what window managers everyone is running
[08:21] <tbf> hmm.... question of the day: where is my core-dump?
[08:21] <Tellmemore> 2times failed ..
[08:21] <MasterShrek> Rautamiekka, but it wont make uninstall...hmm
[08:22] <tbf> calling "ulimit -c unlimited" doesn't seem to activate them
[08:22] <djangelo> paradigm9x: im using compiz  but im having troubles with it
[08:22] <Tellmemore> how can i best way install for XGL
[08:22] <Awe_Schitt> Proxim Orinoco Wireless Device  i need your help if you can help
[08:22] <ketrox> Tellmemore, use the  latest ati drivers with aiglx
[08:22] <eylisian> xcasex, there is a good web tool for Samba called SWAT.
[08:22] <Tellmemore> aiglx?
[08:22] <Tellmemore> what's mean?
[08:22] <xcasex> eylisian: just found sadms gonna try it
[08:23] <inversekinetix> what program do i use to boot my windows xp installation in ubuntu
[08:23] <eylisian> xcasex, nice. there are tools. you just have to kinda mix and match.
[08:23] <Tellmemore> laptop computer donest installed XGL
[08:23] <Rautamiekka> Inversekinetix, GRUB Boot Loader boots up xp if you have it in its list
[08:23] <Tellmemore> my video card type are mobilty X1400
[08:23] <cubedsi> !offtopic
[08:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:24] <Tellmemore> i have a 2time reinstall ubun2 i was failed ..
[08:24] <ketrox> Tellmemore, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[08:24] <inversekinetix> Rautamiekka: no i dont mean like that, I mean while i am in ubuntu I want to boot the windows I have installed, in some kind of virtual machine
[08:24] <Tellmemore> i've go now
[08:24] <shadghost> dsl++
[08:24] <yapyccky> guys im back...well..i've deleted nvidia driver...and installed nvidia-glx-new but still have problems
[08:24] <Awe_Schitt> How did i config my wireless usb from scratch? i dont want to use NdisWrapper 'cause it does not work for me.
[08:24] <Rautamiekka> inversekinetix, By my understand that's not possible
[08:24] <simion314> if someone here is good with networking i have a problem , a strange problem on m ubuntu , more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3843076 , it is a conflict betwen a modem and a network card
[08:25] <yapyccky> i've another questoin, should i install just nvidia-glx-new or smt else?
[08:25] <arooni> folks....... i want to use the quicksearch thing in gutsy........ but it doesn't seem to be indexing *anything* in /home/  .... what gives?
[08:25] <inversekinetix> Rautamiekka: there is some virtualization software that will do it, i dont know much about it though
[08:25] <Rautamiekka> inversekinetix, Can I see it too +
[08:25] <Rautamiekka> ?*
[08:26] <Awe_Schitt> i am using Ubuntu Edgy on a Compaq DeskPRO
[08:26] <weltschmerz> i've got the pulseaudio daemon running. how do i make apps produce sound now?
[08:26] <inversekinetix> Rautamiekka: what do you mean?
[08:26] <Rautamiekka> inversekinetix, I'd want to test it also
[08:28] <Rautamiekka> I go to play some games ...
[08:28] <Creationist> I'm trying to add avant-window-navigator to my session startup programs, but each time I login, I still need to manually launch it.  Also, the entry in the Sessions config tool is removed each time as well... what gives?
[08:29] <weltschmerz> Creationist that's a heck of a nick you got there.
[08:30] <Creationist> weltschmerz: Well, it gets the less intelligent talking ;)
[08:31] <Awe_Schitt> what's the scoop?
[08:32] <Tyroazard> ...
[08:33] <eylisian> inversekinetix,  if you have a machine that has an svm or vmx enabled chipset you can virtualize with kvm.
[08:33] <Creationist> I suppose he thinks he's clever and no one will question his nick....
[08:33] <Tyroazard> Ubuntu really does have issues with my graphics card >.>
[08:33] <n2diy> Creationist: I suppose?
[08:34] <inversekinetix> eylisian: how do i find if my machine has that chip?
[08:34] <n2diy> inversekinetix: lshw?
[08:34] <eylisian> grep svm /proc/cpuinfo
[08:34] <eylisian> grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo
[08:34] <Tyroazard> Running partioneditor
[08:34] <eylisian> inversekinetix, catch that?
[08:35] <eylisian> inversekinetix, grep svm /proc/cpuinfo
[08:35] <inversekinetix> yep
[08:35] <eylisian> inversekinetix, grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo ... ok, I suck sometimes.
[08:35] <inversekinetix> eylisian: it has vmx
[08:35] <eylisian> sweet.
[08:35] <weltschmerz> Creationist what do you mean it gets the less intelligent talking?
[08:35] <eylisian> there is a good ubuntu guide for it.
[08:36] <weltschmerz> Creationist you mean you get real creationists praising you or something?
[08:36] <eylisian> google ubuntu vmx kvm
[08:36] <inversekinetix> so i can boot my windows partition under linux?
[08:36] <Tyroazard> Should I give both Ubuntu and XP half?
[08:36] <weltschmerz> how do i use pulseaudio now that i have the daemon running and i'm in the proper groups?
[08:36] <Tyroazard> I wonder which I'll use more.. 113GB sounds more than enough for a OS, right?
[08:36] <eylisian> inversekinetix, not your partition, a virtual machine.
[08:36] <weltschmerz> inversekinetix if you're booting your windows partition, you're not in linux, you're in windows.
[08:37] <weltschmerz> Tyroazard vastly more than enough.
[08:37] <Creationist> weltschmerz: No, I mean it gets the closed-minded such as die-hard evolutionists and others of a non-scientific persuasion to attack me :)
[08:37] <Tyroazard> I wonder which one I'll need more though..
[08:37] <Tyroazard> I suppose I can resize later, wish me luck
[08:37] <Tyroazard> *starts resizing process*
[08:38] <weltschmerz> Creationist evolution is a patent fact.
[08:38] <weltschmerz> Creationist your own genes monumentally profess evolution.
[08:38] <eylisian> inversekinetix, you could run winblows virtualized and the samba share your game$ winblows partion to the virtual instance ;)
[08:38] <eko_hermiyanto> I burn dvd movie with K3B in ubuntu? is it can be played on TV with dvd player?
[08:38] <eylisian> s/the/then
[08:38] <Creationist> weltschmerz: There hasn't been a single scientist in history that has claimed MACRO evolution to be a fact.   But this belongs in -offtopic, not here.
[08:39] <Tyroazard> It gives me e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1
[08:39] <titusg> Hi, I just upgraded to gutsy with apt and everything seems fine, except one niggle -- when I use a different wm (xmonad) fonts in gnome apps (eg evolution) are massive.
[08:39] <n2diy> weltschmerz: fact?
[08:39] <titusg> fonts in gnome look fine...
[08:39] <Tyroazard> e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-NOV-2006)
[08:39] <weltschmerz> Creationist primates get scurvy if we don't get vitamin C, because one of the genes involved in making it broke in an ancestor of primates.
[08:39] <Creationist> I need a smoke ... brb ;)
[08:39] <inversekinetix> eylisian: i dont know what that means
[08:39] <weltschmerz> n2diy yes. fact.
[08:39] <titusg> do I need to add some hook to my xinit script?
[08:39] <Tyroazard> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[08:39] <weltschmerz> evolution is as much a fact as anything else you commonly call a fact.
[08:39] <inversekinetix> whats samba
[08:39] <eylisian> inversekinetix, file sharing network application.
[08:39] <Tyroazard> Oh and /dev/sda1 is mounted
[08:40] <Creationist> weltschmerz: And that proves you're as closed-minded as I expected :P  Seeya
[08:40] <Tyroazard> I already unmounted it
[08:40] <weltschmerz> the evidence for evolution is as sound as the evidence that earth goes round the sun.
[08:40] <eylisian> inversekinetix, uses CIFS for winders sharing.
[08:40] <weltschmerz> Creationist i'm not closed minded, the evidence supports this position.
[08:40] <n2diy> weltschmerz: fact? we scientist can't prove that zero exsists! How can we prove anything else?
[08:40] <weltschmerz> Creationist you could only call me closed-minded if you could refute the overwhelming evidence supporting what i'm saying.  but you absolutely cannot.  if you refuse to accept the patent truth of evolution, then it is you who are closed-minded.
[08:41] <inversekinetix> eylisian: i think this while require some looking into
[08:41] <eylisian> inversekinetix, always does. it'll be worth it.
[08:41] <weltschmerz> Creationist you have a broken ascorbic acid gene.  it is broken in primates, and the amount of genetic difference between the respective ascorbic acid genes in any two primates is in line with the amount of time since they diverged from a recent common ancestor.  that fits evolution to a T. a T.
[08:41] <Schalken> does anyone know where my cup of cordial went?
[08:42] <Schalken> i poured myself a cup of cordial and now its just disappeared :(
[08:42] <weltschmerz> Creationist humans have less chromosomes than other primates because two of our chromosomes fused together in our evolutionary past.  there are telomeres sitting right in the middle of those strands of DNA which profess this reality.
[08:43] <weltschmerz> Creationist if you doubt evolution, you are an ostrich with your head in the sand.  you are  driven by some kind of deep-seated emotional need to believe.  there is ZERO evidence refuting it.
[08:43]  * eylisian looks for an op... somewhere there has to be an op...
[08:43] <inversekinetix> weltschmerz: Im a scientologist and chromosones are irrevelevant
[08:43] <Macrend> what's up with weltschmerz?
[08:43] <n2diy> weltschmerz: You use the term ZERO. What does it mean, how do you know it exsists?
[08:44] <eylisian> inversekinetix, don't feed trolls.
[08:44] <J-_> !support > weltschmerz
[08:44] <Macrend> mmm
[08:44] <weltschmerz> inversekinetix scientology is even more wacko than abrahmic religions.
[08:44] <weltschmerz> you literally believe in the whole xenu spaceship myth.  just nuts.
[08:44] <mrbister> lol
[08:45] <weltschmerz> you believe in a religion that was founded as a business by a total lunatic crackpot.  you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
[08:45]  * eylisian wals waaaay away from what he thought was ubuntu related banter...
[08:45] <eylisian> s/wals/walks
[08:45] <Creationist> !offtopic | weltschmerz
[08:45] <ubotu> weltschmerz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:45] <weltschmerz> scientology brainwashes people, and turns them on their families, and drains them of money, and wrecks people's lives.  that's reality.
[08:46] <yapyccky> ok. i wanna cry :)
[08:46] <yapyccky> anyone wants a dell d820 for free? i give it :)
[08:46] <arooni> folks....... i want to use the quicksearch thing in gutsy........ but it doesn't seem to be indexing *anything* in /home/  .... what gives?
[08:47] <bullgard4> What does the 'c' stand for in /etc/rc0.d, rc1.d, ...?
[08:47] <eylisian> yapyccky, you try booting while passing grub any options? like noapic acpi=off ... things of this nature?
[08:47] <badraa> help me, how to extract winar file's?
[08:48] <yapyccky> if someones will help me to solve this problem with my videocard, i'll pay him a pizza :)
[08:48] <badraa> help me, how to extract winar file's?
[08:48]  * inversekinetix is off to virtualize a new scientology recruit.  thanks
[08:48] <eylisian> yapyccky, do not take those grub sniplets as true... look them up first. I always get things backwards...
[08:49] <yapyccky> eylisian, no. i've nothing in my grub
[08:49] <gordonjcp> !repeat | badraa
[08:49] <ubotu> badraa: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:49] <mattgyver83> !patience
[08:49] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:49] <yapyccky> eylisian, just normal  ro quiet splash
[08:49] <blackfox> how to setting network ip at ubuntu 7.10?
[08:49] <badraa> ok, sorry
[08:49] <gordonjcp> badraa: unrar, possibly?
[08:50] <mattgyver83> blackfox, like set a static IP address?
[08:50] <yapyccky> eylisian, should i try passing noapic acpi=off?
[08:50] <eylisian> yapyccky, you might try noapic or acpi=off or both on boot.
[08:50] <blackfox> yup
[08:50] <badraa> i can't extarct rar file
[08:50] <eylisian> yapyccky, worth a shot right?
[08:50] <J-_> when acpi is off on an old machine, does it make a difference?
[08:50] <yapyccky> eylisian, 1st of all could u help me to check if all files on system are ok? i mean..if i've installed everything right
[08:51] <eylisian> J-_ depends on the older machine. ;)
[08:51] <gordonjcp> badraa: have you installed unrar?
[08:51] <mattgyver83> System - Settings - Networking - select your interface and click properties, select static IP from the configuration dropdown and set it.
[08:51] <eylisian> yapyccky, if you are looking at an x session something is working.
[08:51] <badraa> no. i hav't
[08:51] <eylisian> yapyccky, just not well.
[08:52] <gordonjcp> badraa: well that's your problem then, go and install it
[08:52] <badraa> no. i have not
[08:52] <yapyccky> eylisian, ok, lets try to pass those things to grub. i'll be back. thx for patient :)
[08:52] <badraa> ok
[08:52] <J-_> eylisian: well.. I get the acpi warming on a 600 MHz machine.
[08:52] <badraa> this is unrar?
[08:52] <yapyccky> brb
[08:52] <badraa> ok ok, tnx
[08:52] <shimete> ok guys i'm back with another question, what's the command in terminal to set the password for the root user?
[08:52] <n2diy> badraa: the unzip version of rar
[08:52] <J-_> warning too
[08:53] <gordonjcp> !sudo | shinao1
[08:53] <ubotu> shinao1: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:53] <gordonjcp> oops
[08:53] <gordonjcp> !sudo | shimete
[08:53] <ubotu> shimete: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:53] <eylisian> J-_ I am not familiar with that warning. deals w/ power tho.
[08:54] <J-_> eylisian: cool, thanks anyway =)
[08:54] <Smegzor> On several youtube vids that show off Compiz, they have an extra bar full of large icons for firefox etc. Its very similar to something on the Mac.  Does anyone know what it is and where I can find it?  I can paste up a youtube vid if necessary.
[08:54] <mattgyver83> I think thats avant window decorator
[08:54] <Smegzor> that sounds familiar.  i'll have a look
[08:55] <eylisian> J-_  np. good luck.
[08:55] <yapyccky> eylisian, help! with noacpi im on 800x600!
[08:55] <shinao1> hey!
[08:55] <gordonjcp> shimete: basically, you don't set a root password
[08:55] <shinao1> who woke me??
[08:55] <shinao1> :D
[08:55] <gordonjcp> shinao1: pis
[08:55] <yapyccky> eylisian, almost nothing works now..
[08:55] <gordonjcp> shinao1: mistab
[08:55] <xTheGoat121x> Hey all, I'm looking for a way to update my current version of Compiz-Fusion to the latest version.... all while not running Gutsy
[08:56] <eylisian> yapyccky, then reboot w/ out passing any options.
[08:56] <gordonjcp> this mac keyboard is really hard to type on ;-)
[08:56] <yapyccky> ok
[08:56] <yapyccky> brb
[08:56] <pawan> hi
[08:56] <shinao1> hey how do you config compiz fusion to run emerald?
[08:56] <badraa> oh, yes, now i can extract rar files, tnx for help
[08:56] <pawan> fsck died
[08:56] <gordonjcp> badraa: np
[08:56] <shinao1> i see no option for window managers
[08:56] <shimete> gordonjcp: ok thanks
[08:56] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, i made a mistake and installed grub on my box
[08:57] <n2diy> I'm running Dapper, everything is working, why should I upgrade?
[08:57] <_DT_> shinao1: if you have emerald installed, try fusion-icon. It puts a icon in your sys tray to switch compiz fusion on and off
[08:57] <AverageJoe> while i was installing ubuntu for the other box
[08:57] <soundray> n2diy: you shouldn't
[08:57] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, what os is on your box?
[08:57] <shinao1> fusion-icon? ok then
[08:57] <AverageJoe> windows xp
[08:57] <shinao1> willdo thanks
[08:57] <gordonjcp> n2diy: because you like living on the edge?
[08:57] <_DT_> and you can set it to use emerald for window decorations
[08:57] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, do you have your windows disc handy?
[08:57] <ari_stress> oh man.... i'm burned out
[08:57] <n2diy> soundray: thanks, I won't. :)
[08:58] <xTheGoat121x> Any ideas out there/
[08:58] <djangelo> anybody with a little time for a quick question?
[08:58] <n2diy> gordonjcp: nope, I gave that up with DOS 6.0., thanks anyway.
[08:58] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, nope
[08:58] <_DT_> shinao1: more info here: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/08/26/compiz-fusion-tray-icon/
[08:58] <drewbs> .
[08:58] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, now it wont boot into xp?
[08:58] <soundray> n2diy: when the next LTS (long term support) release comes out, you should consider upgrading, since you won't receive security updates for dapper forever.
[08:59] <yapyccky> eylisian, no changes..it seems to me smt went wrong..
[08:59] <Smegzor> Is the Avant window decorator very buggy?  I'm only interested in pimping out my new pc (first go at life without Windows: 100% Ubuntu).  If Avant is really buggy I might wait a bit before trying it.
[08:59] <yapyccky> eylisian, im still on 800x600
[08:59] <gordonjcp> n2diy: just a thought ...
[08:59] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, no it wont :( it say error 21 and does nothing
[08:59] <MasterShrek> ugh
[08:59] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, you need your windows disc to do a fixmbr
[08:59] <airtonix> hi everyon, i got bigdesktop going in fiesty
[08:59] <MasterShrek> in a recovery console
[08:59] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, hey how are ya
[08:59] <MasterShrek> im not really sure how else to do it...
[08:59] <eylisian> yapyccky, how did you pass grub said nopic option?
[08:59] <yapyccky> eylisian, my xorg is in Failsafe device
[08:59] <MasterShrek> hey xTheGoat121x good, yourself?
[08:59] <n2diy> soundray: roger, I suppose I'll have to upgrade my hardware then? PII dual 333 mhz are slow know.
[09:00] <MasterShrek> n2diy, no way, thats top of the line hardware =P
[09:00] <soundray> n2diy: I think your hardware will still be supported.
[09:00] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, is there anyway i can remove it using the ubuntu cd
[09:00] <airtonix> im using ati radeon9600 rv350 with two screen, only thing is the 'main area' of the desktop is on the second screen.
[09:00] <yapyccky> eylisian, i've added in kernel line
[09:00] <MasterShrek> of course it will be, linux supports almost all old hardware afaik
[09:00] <n2diy> gordonjcp: roger.
[09:00] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, actually not bad... just tryin to nail down something in my Feisty install
[09:01] <eylisian> yapyccky, did you pass grub noapic or acpi=off or directly add it to grubs menu.ist ?
[09:01] <n2diy> MasterShrek: OOKKK! ;)
[09:01] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, im not sure, probably something to ask google, ill search too to try to help u
[09:01] <yapyccky> eylisian, i've added directly to menu.lst, but now i've deleted
[09:01] <soundray> MasterShrek: no, it doesn't. Ubuntu is unusable on anything below a Pentium. Anyway, this was a forward-looking statement concerning the next LTS release
[09:01] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, whats that?
[09:01] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, ok thanks
[09:02] <shinao1> thanks _DT_
[09:02] <n2diy> soundray: roger, I'm crossing my fingers.
[09:02] <MasterShrek> soundray, speaking of lts, was there going to be some kind of updater to update lts to lts? like dapper to hardy?
[09:02] <_DT_> shinao1: you're welcome :-)
[09:02] <eylisian> yapyccky, then it's most likely in you Desktop > Prefs > Screen Res...?
[09:02] <soundray> MasterShrek: I've heard that there will be, but I don't have any details.
[09:02] <MasterShrek> ic
[09:02] <yapyccky> eylisian, im reconfeguring my xserver-xorg..wait..
[09:02] <jmspeex> Am I the only one having problems with window placement when using compiz?
[09:02] <eylisian> I thnk thats the path. am on a Debian Etch machine right now....
[09:03] <eylisian> yapyccky, er...
[09:03] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, well... apparently the repo I'm using for my CF only goes up to version 0.5.2.... and to install the screensaver plugin, you apparently need 0.6.something
[09:03] <eylisian> yapyccky, thats kinda extreme right out the gate right?...
[09:03] <airtonix> anyone who cares how to get radeon9600(rv350) working  with one big desktop across two screens, heres my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45975/
[09:03] <AverageJoe> is there anyway to remove grub once i log into ubuntu
[09:03] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, you may have to get a "backup" copy of xp and use it to fixmbr on that machine
[09:03] <ere4si> jmspeex: have you asked on #compiz-fusion?
[09:03] <yapyccky> eylisian, i'll reboot xorg..brb
[09:03] <Assassyn> hi
[09:03] <Jordan_U> why does uawsusp not have s2ram in Gutsy? It's even referenced in the man page for s2disk
[09:04] <weltschmerz> can anyone offer some help getting pulseaudio working?  i have the daemon running and all that jazz.
[09:04] <jmspeex> ere4si: Not yet in case it's ubuntu-specific. The strange window placement is even more obvious with evince BTW
[09:04] <Assassyn> how can i make my taskbar to look like this one: http://cutecomputer.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/screenshot.png
[09:04] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, what if i log into ubunutu then can i get it work
[09:04] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, install from source maybe?
[09:04] <soundray> AverageJoe: removing grub won't help. You need something sensible to replace it with.
[09:04] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, i dont think so, but i dont know for sure, ive never done it
[09:04] <MasterShrek> never tried....
[09:04] <badraa> tell me ubuntu's virtual cd drive?
[09:04] <airtonix> Assassyn: i think that s awn
[09:05] <AverageJoe> soundray, is that file not available on the net?
[09:05] <pawan> hi
[09:05] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, It'd be nice... I'd rather not lose the auto-update though.
[09:05] <jscinoz> whee
[09:05] <AverageJoe> ie the one to replace grub with
[09:05] <jscinoz> its mostly fixed
[09:05] <ere4si> !awn
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Assassyn> awn?
[09:05] <airtonix> Assassyn: as in 'advanced window navigator'
[09:05] <dellph> hello how do i path a source. i have a patch file?
[09:05] <soundray> AverageJoe: no, it's specific to your setup.
[09:05] <airtonix> Assassyn: its a google code project
[09:05] <Assassyn> i want to get rid of old classic taskbar
[09:05] <pawan> whats up
[09:05] <jscinoz> elysian_, reinstalling those packages *mostly* fixed it
[09:05] <Assassyn> i want to use a modern one
[09:05] <soundray> AverageJoe: so the issue is a grub error 21 when you try to boot Windows?
[09:05] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, you can use checkinstall to make a deb package of it and then install it so apt knows the version
[09:05] <MasterShrek> !checkinstall | xTheGoat121x
[09:05] <ubotu> xTheGoat121x: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[09:06] <airtonix> Assassyn: there is also  a thread on ubuntuforums....you will need compiz and you will want the widget plugin for compiz
[09:06] <AverageJoe> soundray, yeah ...what happened is i tried to install ubuntu on another hard disk using my box, but then i accidently installed grub...:(
[09:06] <pawan> hello
[09:07] <MasterShrek> soundray, he was installing ubuntu on his machine and then planning on moving the drive to a different machine, in the process f-ing up his mbr, and no xp cd to run a fixmbr
[09:07] <airtonix> Assassyn: your talking about the bit down the bottom? if your talking bout the top part then its just a texture
[09:07] <soundray> AverageJoe: do you have Ubuntu on the master hard disk of that system?
[09:07] <Smegzor> sweet!  I bought a UPS recently and there were two power brown-outs just now.  The UPS did its thing and I'm still up :D
[09:07] <dellph> how do i patch a code im a newbie i have a .patch file?
[09:07] <Assassyn> bottom
[09:07] <AverageJoe> soundray, yeah i can do that
[09:07] <Assassyn> one sec i`m gonna show you another screen shot
[09:07] <airtonix> Assassyn: it could also just be nicely arranged icons
[09:07] <MasterShrek> dellph, what are you trying to patch?
[09:07] <djangelo> the bottom one its called KIBA-DOCK
[09:07] <soundray> AverageJoe: so it's not installed right now?
[09:07] <Smegzor> even better, I got the company to pay for the UPS :D
[09:07] <airtonix> kiba-dock it is not
[09:07] <dellph> MasterShrek: java code
[09:08] <djangelo> NO?
[09:08] <badraa> PLZ tell me ubuntu's virtual cd drive?
[09:08] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, awesome... I'll figure all that out.  HAHA
[09:08] <soundray> !mountiso | badraa
[09:08] <ubotu> badraa: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:08] <AverageJoe> soundray, no i installed it on a secondary master, it installed grub on my windows hard disk
[09:08] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, have you compiled things in the past? ./configure   make    make install   ?
[09:09] <jscinoz> Hey everyone, if i open any video file with VLC or totem the program freezes upon reading the file, running these programs from terminal yields no output whatsoever, what can i do?
[09:09] <badraa> ok, just now do it. tnx
[09:09] <soundray> AverageJoe: I have an idea
[09:09] <MasterShrek> jscinoz, do you have codecs and such installed?
[09:09] <AverageJoe> yeah
[09:09] <jscinoz> MasterShrek, yes it was all working previously, it stopped today for unknown reasons
[09:09] <MasterShrek> hrm...
[09:09] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, yeah, thankfully.... plus, usually, the readme files help
[09:09] <soundray> AverageJoe: you can use a FreeDOS rescue CD to fix your MBR.
[09:10] <MasterShrek> jscinoz, no vidoes work? or just certain ones?
[09:10] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, well instead of: make install   do: checkinstall
[09:10] <AverageJoe> soundray, i dont have that disk...can i download it/
[09:10] <jscinoz> MasterShrek, no videos, and audio files also freeze the program, so it appears to crash when it outputs audio
[09:10] <soundray> AverageJoe: it's essentially the same as fixing it with a Windows disk, but you can download it for free.
[09:10] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, make sure you have apt-get'd it
[09:10] <AverageJoe> ALLRIGht
[09:10] <dellph> MasterShrek: its a java code. any thoughts? :)
[09:10] <Assassyn> ok check this one http://art.gnome.org/images/screenshots/gnome218/BluePenguin.png
[09:10] <AverageJoe> soundray, can u give me a link
[09:10] <MasterShrek> dellph, patch -p1 < file.patch  ?
[09:11] <Assassyn> airtonix:
[09:11] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, make sure I've apt-get'd the checkinstall, you mean?
[09:11] <Assassyn> nice taskbar in the bottom near the penguin
[09:11] <jscinoz> MasterShrek, just strung together a screencap with no audio. it played finein both totem and vlc, so these programs are crashing when they try output audio.
[09:11] <soundray> AverageJoe: have a look at this forums discussion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391387
[09:11] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, yes: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[09:12] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, as well as: sudo apt-get install build-essential   (required compilers)
[09:12] <AverageJoe> soundray, ok thanks mate :D              :********************************* :P
[09:12] <yapyccky> eylisian, i'm starting from very beginning...i need to ask u a question
[09:12] <MasterShrek> jscinoz, interesting, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[09:13] <shadghost> any one have ubuntu on a intel based mac
[09:13] <eylisian> yapyccky,  whats up?
[09:13] <MasterShrek> jscinoz, also do the same for alsa-utils
[09:13] <soundray> AverageJoe: http://freedos.sourceforge.net/
[09:13] <timob> is it me or does trackerd not work very well
[09:13] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, I'm glad to say, I have build-essential already... :)
[09:13] <soundray> shadghost: yes
[09:13] <jscinoz> MasterShrek, no change.
[09:13] <MasterShrek> jscinoz, hmm
[09:13] <shadghost> soundray: does it work easily?
[09:13] <yapyccky> i opened synaptic and checed for nvidia : so i've installed : linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic nvidia-kernel-common and xserver-xorg-video-nv
[09:14] <shadghost> i am not sure if it is hardware or ubuntu
[09:14] <yapyccky> eylisian, i've deleted nvidia-glx-new and i want to reboot with nv driver on xorg.conf
[09:14] <soundray> shadghost: I prepared it with Boot Camp, then it was easy.
[09:14] <eylisian> yapyccky,  I would use the restricted driver manager.
[09:14] <xTheGoat121x> Well I'll be .....
[09:14] <soundray> shadghost: what's the problem?
[09:14] <Assassyn> how can i see last installed pacakages?
[09:15] <yapyccky> eylisian, problem is that i cant reboot in my own resolution but just in 800x600 ...so i want to start from very beginning
[09:15] <eylisian> yapyccky,  you can call dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:15] <timob> Assassyn: /var/log/dpkg.log or something similar
[09:15] <a-arschi> 10000 chatter on '<
[09:15] <shadghost> soundray: on a macbookpro on booting mac, it stops at the apple, on xp stops at loading screen and blue bar wont go across, and on ubuntu it stops at kernal
[09:15] <Assassyn> thanks
[09:15] <J-_> what about reconfiguring X? Not sure if that'll help yapyccky
[09:15] <yapyccky> eylisian, i'll do later..now i want to reboot from nv...do u agree with me?
[09:15] <soundray> Assassyn: sudo tail -n 100 /var/log/installer/syslog
[09:15] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, ok, apparently I don't have C-F, I only have Compiz
[09:15] <eylisian> yapyccky,  when it gets to choosing debconf, choose simple.
[09:16] <ere4si> I'm trying to make a pent2 400mhz with 64mb ram into a nfs server - is there a linux distro that will work on this?
[09:16] <airtoni1> yeah so as i was saying....kibadock is less than awn
[09:16] <jscinoz> MasterShrek, any ideas?
[09:16] <eylisian> yapyccky,  you are not booting from an nv kernel. no such thing.
[09:16] <soundray> shadghost: does it still boot from a CD?
[09:16] <yapyccky> eylisian, may i post my xorg.conf?
[09:16] <J-_> ere4si: possiby dsl, not sure though. google damn small linux and look for the requirements.
[09:16] <MasterShrek> jscinoz, not really...sorry
[09:17] <jscinoz> >_<
[09:17] <eylisian> yapyccky,  paste it somewhere and put the link up.
[09:17] <soundray> ere4si: try DSL or Puppy Linux
[09:17] <shadghost> soundray: yes, he does not have any linux installed, and memtest86+ is at 98% with no errors
[09:17] <yapyccky> ok
[09:17] <J-_> !pastebin
[09:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:17] <Assassyn> brb
[09:17] <airtoni1> Assassyn: kiba dock doesnt have a file browser mod like awn, it does nt have drag n drop support like awn.
[09:17] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, have you considered updating to gutsy? much better cf support? or at least have you enabled the backports repo?
[09:17] <MasterShrek> !backports
[09:17] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[09:17] <shadghost> soundray: memtest86+ 100%
[09:17] <yapyccky> http://pastebin.com/m34a3369a
[09:17] <yapyccky> here it is
[09:17] <Assassyn> airtoni1:
[09:17] <Assassyn> i should install awn?
[09:17] <ere4si> soundray: puppy doesn't do nfs yet - will explore dsl
[09:18] <pawan> hi
[09:18] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, yeah, I was just about to ask about backports.... Though I'll have to take this up in the morning... it's 4:15 am here, and I think I should head off to bed.
[09:18] <airtoni1> Assassyn: if your after a dockbar mac clone yes
[09:18] <ere4si> thnx soundrayJ-_
[09:18] <eylisian> yapyccky, looking....
[09:18] <Assassyn> sudo apt-get install awn?
[09:18] <Assassyn> :P
[09:18] <MasterShrek> i hear you xTheGoat121x its 3:15 here and im about getting there =P
[09:18] <airtoni1> Assassyn: they are both similiar cept kibdock is more eyecanddy than function
[09:18] <yapyccky> eylisian, thx
[09:18] <airtoni1> Assassyn: and i found kibadock unrealiable it would suddenly quit on me
[09:19] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, yeah... I'm tryin to move up cuz Compiz has given me all sorts of problems with gnome-screensaver.....
[09:19] <Assassyn> awww
[09:19] <soundray> shadghost: go to http://www.tuxmobil.org and look up installation reports for your model. There are bound to be some.
[09:19] <airtoni1> Assassyn: and if the whole point of running that kind of menu system is to provide 'quicker' acces to info and apps...then stick with gnome menu panel
[09:19] <shadghost> yay now i need to find the modle... god i hate mac's
[09:19] <MasterShrek> xTheGoat121x, i can only imagine...i use kde, no compiz right now...slamd64 actualyl, thinking about going for cf again...but im kinda lazy to lol
[09:20] <airtoni1> Assassyn: its by far the most stable and memory friendly
[09:20] <eylisian> yapyccky, http://pastebin.com/m5ca6ca13
[09:20] <Assassyn> you mean the standard gnome taskbar?
[09:20] <Thor_> im having problems with my 'getty' it seems that whenever i push ctrl+alt+F1 i just get a black screen...
[09:20] <airtoni1> yup
[09:20] <airtoni1> seriously
[09:20] <Assassyn> hmm
[09:20] <Assassyn> maybe youre right
[09:20] <airtoni1> i know those others are sexy and all
[09:20] <blackfox> how to install beryl at ubuntu 7.10
[09:20] <yapyccky> eylisian, ok..i'll make a change and reboot
[09:20] <eylisian> yapyccky, that will grab your nv driver while not having to reboot. just log out and restart x or hit ctrl - alt - backspace.
[09:21] <MasterShrek> blackfox, you dont
[09:21] <airtoni1> but if you want a mac deskbar...then you gonna have to step over to close-sourde hell and buy a mac
[09:21] <yapyccky> brb
[09:21] <MasterShrek> blackfox, compiz-fusion is what u want, and its already installed
[09:21] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, haha, I follow ya.  And regarding the suggestion of upgrading to 7.10... I'm waiting for 8.04LTS before I upgrade my Ubuntu... simply b/c if I'm going to do a fresh install (which is what i plan on doing), I'm going to do it for a really good reason.
[09:21] <airtoni1> Assassyn: or help out with teh dev and get a monster machine and put up with crashes
[09:21] <Assassyn> btw i have beryl... but i don`t see any raindrops on desktop :P
[09:21] <blackfox> ubuntu 7.10 have 3d desktop ?
[09:21] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: compiz with fusion addons
[09:21] <MasterShrek> thats prolyl a good idea xTheGoat121x, although i tend to do fresh installs quite often cuz i test and destroy alot of software =P
[09:22] <airtoni1> Assassyn: im really just being pessimistic....it can be bad but if you reeeeally want it...go for it.. try awn and kiba
[09:22] <Amaranth> blackfox: In Ubuntu 7.10 we enable visual effects by default, yes
[09:22] <airtoni1> Assassyn: you need to install the extras package
[09:22] <xTheGoat121x> MasterShrek, I used to do that... a LOT... but lately I've been to busy to toy with my software.
[09:22] <ere4si> soundray: dsl only has the nfs client... - thnx anyway - must be a solution
[09:22] <Assassyn> http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu+Feisty+Repository?t=anon
[09:22] <Assassyn> awn install
[09:22] <Assassyn> :D
[09:23] <airtoni1> Assassyn: do you have beryl? are you running gutsy or fiesty or kek even breezy?
[09:23] <Thor_> im having problems with my 'getty' it seems that whenever i push ctrl+alt+F1 i just get a black screen...
[09:23] <Assassyn> feisty fawn
[09:23] <airtoni1> Assassyn: hangon
[09:23] <airtoni1> ahh
[09:23] <Assassyn> what?
[09:23] <airtoni1> yep follow that repo method
[09:23] <pawan> hi
[09:23] <Assassyn> btw ubuntu 7.10 server is better than 7.04server?
[09:24] <ere4si> !ask | pawan
[09:24] <ubotu> pawan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:24] <Assassyn> i want to make a file server but dunno if i should use 7.10 server
[09:24] <airtoni1> Assassyn: i havent got 3d desktop going as i want to have my desktop across two screens. so icant really help you with practical info here
[09:24] <airtoni1> Assassyn: dont
[09:24] <Assassyn> hmm... why?
[09:24] <airtoni1> Assassyn: meh its up to you
[09:24] <airtoni1> Assassyn: as a form though i usualy dont
[09:24] <Assassyn> i don`t know if it`s stabloe x)
[09:25] <Ziroday> Assassyn: what program were you planning to run as the file server
[09:25] <airtoni1> Assassyn: thats where i lean with the whole idea of file servers...keep it real stable
[09:25] <Ziroday> Assassyn: FTP, Samba?
[09:25] <Assassyn> samba
[09:25] <Assassyn> and use webmin to administrate
[09:25] <airtoni1> im also having problems with samba...not sure if its he server r my windows clients
[09:25] <Ziroday> Assassyn: well im running Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop with samba just fine
[09:25] <airtoni1> Assassyn; why not just use a ssh term?
[09:26] <Assassyn> i`m using ssh also
[09:26] <Assassyn> but whne i`m lazy webmin  :P
[09:26] <sowmya> hi all
[09:26] <airtoni1> i dont use the samba side of the server when my client workstation is oin ubuntu mode
[09:26] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, can i install another bootloader like grub and fix the mbr
[09:26] <Assassyn> why?
[09:26] <airtoni1> coz nfs is twice as fast
[09:26] <Assassyn> what problems you got?
[09:27] <airtoni1> well, in windows the quick bar creates lag of 15-30secs
[09:27] <Thor_> AverageJoe you could try Lilo
[09:27] <sowmya> while i'm trying to install desktop-effects in ubuntu 7.10, i'm getting E: Package desktop-effects has no installation candidate
[09:27] <eylisian> AverageJoe, check out systemrescuecd, it might be your only hope. that and skillz.
[09:27] <airtoni1> and the transfer rate of samba from windows is around 4-5mbs
[09:27] <sowmya> can any one help me to fix it?
[09:27] <Assassyn> i have a linux file server and windows clients.. so samba?
[09:27] <airtoni1> yeah
[09:27] <airtoni1> unfortunalty windows doesnt have native nfs support
[09:27] <Thor_> samba + swat
[09:28] <airtoni1> or ssh
[09:28] <pawan> whats up
[09:28] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, not on a windows hard drive i dont think
[09:28] <airtoni1> there is a guide on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ about samba
[09:29] <sauvin> A few years ago, I downloaded (I think it was) Unix Services for Windows from some damn place, and it included an NFS client, I thought.
[09:29] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, i bet that idea of using freedos might work though, probably worth using a blank cd on it
[09:29] <Assassyn> btw
[09:29] <airtoni1> sauvin: i dtried that the other day
[09:29] <Assassyn> i see there are isos for amd64
[09:29] <ere4si> sauvin: still does
[09:29] <AverageJoe> ok MasterShrek, i m gonna try the freedos
[09:29] <airtoni1> sauvin: its soooooo buggy , its put this in perspective...unix vers ion of ntfs is better than ms version of nfs
[09:29] <socketErr> how can i see differences between installed files and the deb-package contents?
[09:30] <Assassyn> are the isos good to use? i mean 64bit instead of 32bit
[09:30] <shinygiftson> hi, anyone help me to fix desktop-effects installation problem
[09:30] <shinygiftson> ?
[09:30] <shinygiftson> in ubuntu 7.10
[09:30] <ere4si> sauvin: I ended up using a flash drive to transfer files from linux to windows
[09:30] <jscinoz> Hey everyone, if i open any video file with VLC or totem the program freezes upon reading the file, running these programs from terminal yields no output whatsoever, what can i do?
[09:30] <airtoni1> i have samba, but its not any where as good as nfs
[09:31] <yapyccky> i'm back..but it still use wrong resolution
[09:31] <airtoni1> like my housmate will watch movie over nfs and me too, no interruptions between us ....but if we use smaba....the movies we watch glitch alll over the place
[09:31] <ere4si> airtoni1: and so much simpler...
[09:31] <Assassyn> awww
[09:31] <airtoni1> so for me NFS is the king
[09:31] <Assassyn> that is bad
[09:32] <sauvin> Well, between unices, I'd have recommended nfs.
[09:32] <JJtech> anyone here knows how to start cebu atlantis effect??? what to press??
[09:32] <buttercups> shinygiftson, you have it already installed, system>preferences>appearance
[09:32] <UstasW> hi
[09:32] <Assassyn> how do you burn dvds in linuxz.. never burned a dvd on ubuntu.. i see you create an iso image and then burn it?
[09:32] <UstasW> private
[09:32] <airtoni1> using aprogram like you do in windows or mac
[09:32] <ere4si> sauvin: I nfs from my server to the household comps - it's just the tv box that runs windows
[09:32] <airtoni1> usually you put the blank dvd/cd in the drive and wait
[09:33] <airtoni1> nautlus will pop up a folder of the dynamic kind
[09:33] <Assassyn> but windows can read the dvd?
[09:33] <airtoni1> providng you aplace to drag drop desired files to burn to medium
[09:33] <airtoni1> yep
[09:33] <shinygiftson> thx buttercups :)
[09:33] <sauvin> I can't speak for dvd (not tried it yet) but it seems to me linux does a better job with CD than Windows does.
[09:33] <airtoni1> you can useseveral progs but there a few that a good....like : (wait a sec)
[09:34] <pawan> how to browse bluetooth devices
[09:34] <JJtech> anyone here knows how to start cebu atlantis effect??? what to press??
[09:34] <airtoni1> yeah dvd is tricky grounds, cd no probs....infact most of the software used on windows for cds comes from linux
[09:34] <Assassyn> yes but first you create an iso image and then burn it??
[09:34] <airtoni1> well most of the stuff at doom9
[09:34] <airtoni1> no
[09:34] <airtoni1> well
[09:34] <airtoni1> yes
[09:35] <JJtech> anyone here knows how to start cebu atlantis effect??? what to press??
[09:35] <airtoni1> but to you its transparent...if your using a gui to do it
[09:35] <sauvin> DVD is tricky stuff, maybe; I'd heard somewhere that different drives use different low-level formats, or something to such effect.
[09:35] <airtoni1> JJtech: would be nice to even know wht your talking about
[09:35] <chimpo> The login screen works absolutely great for this new install on a laptop, however once i enter it, i cannot get the resolution to work properly, is there anyway to work out what the settings are for the login screen?
[09:35] <erUSUL> !fixres
[09:35] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:35] <airtoni1> chimpo: my first laptop install back in breezy days required a line in the very first screen upon boot
[09:36] <airtoni1> chimpo: but you may not have to reinstall
[09:36] <Thor_> im having problems with my 'getty' it seems that whenever i push ctrl+alt+F1 i just get a black screen...
[09:36] <boguh> hi, im searching a small wiki, i need it for mathematical things. any suggestions?
[09:36] <pawan> bluetooth
[09:36] <chimpo> may not?
[09:37] <erUSUL> chimpo: i'm sure you checked System>Admin>Screen $ Graphics
[09:37] <airtoni1> an app ive been using to bakup my divx is CD/DVD Writer GnomeBaker...works pretty much like nero does
[09:37] <chimpo> yes
[09:37] <Assassyn> kewl
[09:37] <AverageJoe> MasterShrek, can u take a look here and tell me which one to download http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/
[09:37] <chimpo> And even though i have it set in xorg.conf to run at its  native resolution of 1024x768
[09:37] <chimpo> it refuses and boots in like 600x480
[09:37] <blackfox> where can download theme for ubuntu 7.10?
[09:37] <airtoni1> another is k3b but you will be required to download extra libraries which wil ltake up lts of space and only be used for this prog
[09:37] <airtoni1> or other kde proggs
[09:38] <airtoni1> blackfox: gnome-look.org
[09:38] <chimpo> doing dpkg-reconfigure gives the same very low res screen even though it detects that it runs at 1024
[09:38] <MasterShrek> AverageJoe, fdfullcd.iso
[09:39] <Assassyn1> xchat rulez :P
[09:39] <airtoni1> another app many of you will want for burning is one called aptoncd...it backsup your installed programs as the deb files ...
[09:39] <Ziroday> chimpo: what gfx card?
[09:39] <chimpo> its on a laptop so its a weird one
[09:39] <airtoni1> it backs it up as an iso
[09:39] <Assassyn> btw
[09:39] <Assassyn> ghost for linux?
[09:39] <Assassyn> did u tried it?
[09:39] <airtoni1> Assassyn: yep but naot called ghost
[09:39] <airtoni1> Assassyn: i used ghost religously on windows
[09:40] <Assassyn> true
[09:40] <Assassyn> me too
[09:40] <chimpo> Silicon Motion SM720 Lynx3DM
[09:40] <airtoni1> saved like 3hrs of install time
[09:40] <Assassyn> but other alternative to restore the full system?
[09:40] <airtoni1> theyare not soo elegant
[09:40] <Assassyn> for linux
[09:40] <Tenordiamond> is there a command that show what verison of Ubuntu you are running?
[09:40] <maverick> how can i set the default gateway in route for eth0
[09:40] <maverick> using the terminal
[09:40] <airtoni1> but they are there and a far more extensbile...you wont need to run around 50 boxes witha  northons ghost booot disk
[09:41] <airtoni1> Tenordiamond: yes
[09:41] <pawan> how to use bluetooth devices
[09:41] <airtoni1> Tenordiamond: its lsbrelease or something
[09:41] <airtoni1> Tenordiamond: try googling for that
[09:41] <Tenordiamond> airtoni1: ok ill try and see
[09:41] <airtoni1> maverick: it involves editing the /etc/network/interfaces file
[09:42] <maverick> i did that, and rebooted, but the settings do not show up in ifconfig
[09:42] <airtoni1> no need to reboot
[09:42] <maverick> airtoni1: ifup/ifdown did not work :(
[09:42] <airtoni1> maverick: only need to do this : sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[09:43] <airtoni1> maverick: oh...not good
[09:43] <pawan> bluetooth
[09:43] <airtoni1> maverick: i think sysntax has changed maybe?
[09:43] <airtoni1> maverick: syntax of ifup etc
[09:43] <maverick> airtoni1: i just want the default gateway in the routing tables...
[09:43] <maverick> airtoni1: maybe
[09:44] <airtoni1> try my command it works for me , but im in feisty
[09:44] <Assassyn> airtoni1:
[09:44] <GodEater> my / filesystem has become mounted ro, and trying to remount it rw results in a "block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only" message. Any clues ?
[09:44] <Assassyn> how would you partition your linux file server?
[09:44] <sowmya> My linux version is grab version 0.93 red hat Enterprise linux ws (2.4.21-4.el). my son was adjusted the screen display in gui mode. later i found that the adjustment was gone out of range. Now the system will boot at the  end following  message will apper on the screen "NOT OPTIMUM MODE RECOMENDED MODE 1280* 1024.60Hz.  Kindly advice me how i can correct this problem
[09:45] <maverick> airtoni1: is there no way to do it using the route command?
[09:45] <Assassyn> how many MB for /, root/ , /home erc?
[09:45] <pawan> hi
[09:45] <airtoni1> Assassyn: i do that isntall time...for me the typical format is this : 1st: swap(1g), 2nd main(10gb), 3rd user files(rest of storage space)
[09:45] <Ziroday> sowmya: wrong place this is ubuntu NOT red hat
[09:45] <NixPanther> I set the default gateway on mine by setting it to static IP, putting one ine and the gateway, then changing it to DHCP again. It saved the gateway for some reason.
[09:45] <airtoni1> Ziroday: lol
[09:46] <maverick> NixPanther: will try
[09:46] <IanLiu> !fixgrub
[09:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:46] <airtoni1> maverick: are you using command line or gui?
[09:46] <maverick> airtoni1: command line
[09:47] <airtoni1> maverick: if ifup and ifdown aint working something else is wrong,,,further up the chain..most proly not your fault
[09:47] <NixPanther> maverick,  Though if your router and Desktop are both set to DHCP it should detect it automatically
[09:47] <I_G0dzzzz_I> ti.rcnet
[09:47] <airtoni1> maverick: i will admit i have no idea about how routes work...only a light idea so that i can understand network security
[09:48] <maverick> NixPanther: i am on a wired adsl network without a router...i need a static ip for my LAN
[09:48] <erUSUL> GodEater: this is done when a (seruius?) error is encountered on the filesystem. Boot with a livCD and check the filesystem with fsck
[09:48] <airtoni1> maverick: i have same setup
[09:48] <GodEater> erUSUL: easier said than done - the box is 2 miles from my current location =/
[09:49] <maverick> airtoni1: it shows the gateway in the gui, but for some reason, i cannot see it in route/ifconfig
[09:49] <NixPanther> maverick, Then why do you need a gateway?
[09:49] <airtoni1> ahh
[09:49] <airtoni1> maverick: do you have that stupid avahi ticked?
[09:49] <airtoni1> maverick: and do you see a third ethernet deivce in ifconfig?
[09:49] <maverick> NixPanther: because without a gateway it takes a hell of a time to see the other Pcs on LQAN
[09:50] <maverick> airtoni: ppp0, lo and eth0
[09:50] <NixPanther> maverick, Ok so if its not a router that is the gateway, what is?
[09:50] <airtoni1> maverick: mmmm.....sometimes for me the avahi was interferring....wa it ever set?
[09:50] <maverick> NixPanther: its my own ip
[09:50] <airtoni1> maverick: was*
[09:50] <cubedsi> how could i take a set of numbers and make all possible odds
[09:50] <maverick> airtoni1: i have no idea about the avahi thing
[09:50] <blackfox> can change effact ubuntu?
[09:50] <cubedsi> i mean combinations of the set of numbers
[09:51] <airtoni1> maverick: my internally all my puters have static ips
[09:51] <airtoni1> maverick: my lan *
[09:51] <maverick> NixPanther: the thing is if i set a gateway, i can see other PCs, and if i dont, i takes a hell of a time
[09:51] <airtoni1> maverick: your in feisty or gutsy?
[09:51] <maverick> airtoni1: me in gusty
[09:51] <airtoni1> ok under the genreal tab in the netowrk admin gui
[09:51] <NixPanther> maverick, Gotcha.
[09:51] <bXi> hi
[09:51] <erUSUL> GodEater: you can not remount it rw? 'sudo mount -o remount /' ??
[09:52] <bXi> are there repos where i can get fusion-icon from?
[09:52] <airtoni1> maverick: is your router also one of  your dns servers?
[09:52] <GodEater> erUSUL: tried that, that's when I get the "block device is marked read-only" message
[09:52] <a-arschi> xPanther: the thing is if i set a gateway, i can see other PCs, and if i dont, i takes a hell of a time
[09:53] <airtoni1> maverick: and does the gui reflect wahts in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[09:53] <maverick> airtoni1: no it isnt, its my own static IP....for some reason, i can see users only if i put it
[09:53] <erUSUL> GodEater: and this? 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /' ??
[09:53] <NixPanther> airtoni1, He is using his PC/ip as gateway, not a router
[09:53] <maverick> airtoni1: yes it does
[09:53] <airtoni1> maverick: ok my router (192.168.0.1) is one of my dns servers and my gateway...
[09:54] <airtoni1> my router is my gateway is my router
[09:54] <nucc1> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu on a hp proliant dl 380, the livecd edition, can i get all the server stuff in afterwards?
[09:54] <airtoni1> and you would be using your internal IP not he one exposed to internet
[09:54] <maverick> airtoni1: my dns is 203.xx.xx.xx, and my LAN is starting from 10.xx.xx.xx
[09:54] <airtoni1> maverick: im talking lan not internet IP
[09:54] <a-arschi>  :)
[09:54] <a-arschi>  :D
[09:54] <a-arschi>  ;)  :D  8-)
[09:55] <maverick> airtoni: so, if i set default as 10.xx.xx.xx i cannot acess the internet, but use the lan...
[09:55] <airtoni1> a-
[09:55] <airtoni1> maverick: your router should have sharing to teh internet?
[09:55] <a-arschi> rtoni: so, if i set default as 10.xx.xx.xx i cannot acess the internet, but use the lan... '<
[09:55] <Tidus> maverick: my default gateway is 192.168.2.1, which is a non-routable IP
[09:55] <nucc1> is there a difference between ubuntu server edition and desktop edition?
[09:56] <Tidus> nucc1: it's the difference between X/Gnome or a pre-configured LAMP
[09:56] <airtoni1> maverick: is it another computer or a switch only or a router only or arouter/modem
[09:56] <maverick> airtoni1: i DO NOT have a router, only a pppoe connection and a cable goes to my network card...nothing else
[09:56] <erUSUL> nucc1: yes, no GUI different kernel to name a few
[09:56] <beasty_> morning
[09:56] <nucc1> erUSUL: i've only got the desktop edition, and i'm trying to install on a server, its not detecting most of my RAM and HDDs,
[09:57] <airtoni1> goodbye
[09:57] <beasty_> anyone inhere uses pam_ccreds ?
[09:57] <Andycasss> Where can i find the httpd conf in ubuntu??
[09:57] <nucc1> erUSUL: I wonder if i'd be able to get all the other stuff working after the install
[09:57] <Andycasss> (for apache)
[09:57] <beasty_> Andycasss: /etc/apache2/
[09:57] <NixPanther> maverick, Try setting your DNS to your gateway address (System > Administration > Netwoork Settings)
[09:57] <maverick> NixPanther, ok just a second
[09:57] <a-arschi>  stuff working after the install
[09:57] <a-arschi> 	Andycasss	(for apache) :)
[09:58] <erUSUL> nucc1: the RAM is due to the kernel (not sure about hdd's) you can install the server kernel on a desktop ubuntu afaik
[09:58] <Andycasss> Uhh, heh
[09:58] <Andycasss> But the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty
[09:58] <beasty_> Andycasss: apache2.conf
[09:58] <nucc1> erUSUL: btw, xeon is 64-bit, right?
[09:59] <maverick> NixPanther: the ifup/down is not working, so i need to reboot?
[09:59] <Andycasss> beasy_: Okay, but i cant find directoryindex in there
[09:59] <Andycasss> beasty_: Im trying to make htm work as an index
[09:59] <NixPanther> maverick, make sure the netork is enabled, look to the top taskbat for the blue screens and right click it
[10:00] <beasty_> Andycasss: take a look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[10:00] <beasty_> no wait
[10:00] <a-arschi>  :|
[10:00]  * NixPanther goes back to typing school
[10:00] <maverick> NixPanther, yes it is enabled
[10:00] <erUSUL> nucc1: depends on the generation there are many Xeons out there
[10:00] <NixPanther> maverick, Ok now reboot
[10:00] <maverick> ok
[10:00] <nucc1> erUSUL: i'll install anyway, if i can't get stuff to work, i'd grab the server edition then
[10:00] <Assassyn> there was a top with servers uptime.. anyone has any link... i can`t find the website
[10:01] <a-arschi> i=tom freenode/staff/tomaw irc.freenode.net t G 0 Tom Wesley <tom@tomaw.net>
[10:01] <a-arschi> 		#ubuntu i=tom freenode/staff/tomaw irc.freenode.net tomaw G 0 Tom Wesley <tom@tomaw.net>
[10:01] <a-arschi> 		##linux i=swhitton freenode/staff/wikimedia.sean-whitton irc.freenode.net seanw G 0 Sean Whitton <sean@silentflame.com>
[10:01] <a-arschi> #linux i=james freenode/staff/njan irc.freenode.net njan H 0 james
[10:01] <a-arschi> 		#ubuntu i=PhilKC freenode/staff/philkc irc.freenode.net PhilKC H 0 Philip King-Cherne
[10:01] <a-arschi> 		#ubuntu i=essy freenode/staff/sportchick irc.freenode.net SportChick G 0 SC
[10:01] <a-arschi> 		#ubuntu i=dave freenode/staff/dave2 irc.freenode.net Dave2 G 0 Dave Wickham
[10:01] <erUSUL> !paste
[10:01] <nucc1> ciao
[10:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:01] <erUSUL> nucc1: good luck
[10:01] <Cutter> salu*
[10:02] <Andycasss> beasty_: "no wait" - me?
[10:02] <makroune> ta le SEUMMMMMMMMMM
[10:02] <a-arschi> good luck :)
[10:02] <Cutter> :) what is the best linux ?
[10:02] <Cutter> Debian , ubuntu or mandriva
[10:02] <a-arschi> good luck
[10:02] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> under my umbrella ella ella ella ella.....
[10:02] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> under my umbrella ella ella ella ella.....
[10:02] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> under my umbrella ella ella ella ella.....
[10:02] <erUSUL> !best | Cutter
[10:02] <ubotu> Cutter: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:02] <Slart> !best | Cutter
[10:02] <Slart> bah..
[10:02] <NixPanther> maverick, Welcome back
[10:03] <a-arschi> under my umbrella ella ella ella ella.....
[10:03] <savvas> How do I find the pid of a dialog window ?
[10:03] <maverick> NixPanther: no change in ifconfig, but it shows the new gateway in the GUI
[10:03] <a-arschi> 11111chatter on ???[10:04] <maverick> NixPanther, is there a way to change the gateway w/o the interfaces or the GUI
[10:04] <beasty_> Andycasss: DirectoryIndex index.html, index.htm, index.php
[10:04] <beasty_> try adding this
[10:04] <Andycasss> to?
[10:04] <a-arschi> here a way to change the gateway w/o the interfaces or the GUI
[10:04] <a-arschi> 	beasty_	Andycasss: DirectoryIndex index.html, index.htm, index.php
[10:04] <a-arschi> 		-> sandgroper hat den Raum ubuntu betreten.
[10:04] <a-arschi> 	beasty_	try adding this
[10:04] <Andycasss> sites enabled or apache.conf
[10:04] <NixPanther> maverick, Did you paste the command from earlier into terminal to ifdown/up? As you mentioned you thought the syntax might have changed?
[10:04] <ata4ix> how i can mount ntfs partition in ubuntu to have this rights rwxrwxrwx for files and folders?
[10:05] <gordonjcp> a-arschi: ssh, big people talking
[10:05] <a-arschi> maverick, Did you paste the command from earlier into terminal to ifdown/up? As you mentioned you thought the
[10:05] <beasty_> Andycasss: apache.conf
[10:05] <nephlim> hey guys
[10:05] <erUSUL> !ntfs | ata4ix
[10:05] <ubotu> ata4ix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[10:05] <maverick> maverick@maverick-desktop:~$ sudo ifdown eth0
[10:05] <maverick> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[10:05] <a-arschi> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured 8-)  8-)
[10:05] <nephlim> does anyone know if a wikipedia dockapp/widget exists for gnome?
[10:05] <ata4ix> i try but always have this  drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 4,0K 2007-11-16 11:13 crysis
[10:05] <gordonjcp> !ops | a-arschi
[10:05] <ubotu> a-arschi: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[10:06] <NixPanther> a-arschi, thats getting annoying
[10:06] <a-arschi> i try but always have this drwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 4,0K 2007-11-16 11:13 crysis '<  '<
[10:06] <maverick> NixPanther: what can i do now?
[10:07] <a-arschi> a-arschi	i try but always have this drwxrwx
[10:07] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into mu ubuntu gutsy
[10:07] <NixPanther> maverick, Give me a moment to poke mine a bit more. I've been sorting our networks for years, but I've only been playing with Linux for one :P
[10:07] <CppIsWeird> oopse
[10:07] <maverick> i just need to add a gateway in this line of the routing table
[10:07] <maverick> 10.0.0.0        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
[10:08] <gordonjcp> maverick: have you looked in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:08] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine.
[10:09] <maverick> gordonjcp: yes, it shows a gateway there, but not in ifconfig or eoute
[10:09] <maverick> *route
[10:09] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: that's a bit odd
[10:09] <gordonjcp> maverick: hm, have you tried restarting networking?
[10:09] <CppIsWeird> yep, i'll have to agree. :P
[10:09] <maverick> gordonjcp: i rebooted
[10:09] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: have you looked in /etc/fstab to see if there's anything odd?
[10:10] <CppIsWeird> i'll give it a shot
[10:10] <beasty_> Andycasss: got it working ?
[10:10] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: the "G_DIR_SEPARATOR" thing is odd, because you *can* mount a filesystem on a subdirectory
[10:10] <gordonjcp> maverick: and then what happened?
[10:11] <maverick> gordonjcp: i tried changing the gateway frm the GUI as well as the interfaces file...still it does not show up in ifconfig/route
[10:11] <maverick> *from
[10:12] <gordonjcp> maverick: the gateway wouldn't show up in ifconfig
[10:12] <NixPanther> maverick, does it work even though it doesn't show up?
[10:12] <CppIsWeird> nothing that i can see looks weird. this is very recent, i was using this hard drive in this computer last night, and ive used this machine with this install of linux for months now.
[10:12] <gordonjcp> maverick: pastebin the output of "route"?
[10:12] <maverick> Nixpanter: no...
[10:12] <CppIsWeird> ive not installed any new softare, and the usb port works, and ive tried multiple usb ports.
[10:12] <CppIsWeird> so... i really dont know what it could be
[10:12] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: that's pretty odd
[10:12] <mikebeecham9023> wow..wierd
[10:13] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: did you unmount it properly before disconnecting it?
[10:13] <CppIsWeird> probably not, i forget often.
[10:13] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: aha
[10:13] <gordonjcp> that's not good
[10:13] <CppIsWeird> yeah, i know. i try to remember
[10:13] <CppIsWeird> but usually the cord in in my hand and disconnected when i go "Oh yeah!"
[10:13] <maverick> gordonjcp: http://www.file-post.com/view_code.php?id=627
[10:13] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: bear in mind that until you unmount, the data might not be written out to disk
[10:14] <CppIsWeird> yeah, im aware of that.
[10:14] <gordonjcp> maverick: you have a default rout
[10:14] <gordonjcp> e
[10:14] <CppIsWeird> so what do i need to do to resolve the issue with my computer not being able to mount it?
[10:14] <maverick> gordonjcp: thats a ppp0 one, so i cannot use my LAN properly
[10:14] <gordonjcp> maverick: try deleting it
[10:15] <maverick> gordonjcp: ok
[10:15] <gordonjcp> route del <something>
[10:15] <gordonjcp> can't remember the specifics, RTFM
[10:15] <CppIsWeird> would a usb drive come up as sda?
[10:15] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: see if it thinks it's mounted
[10:15] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: yes
[10:15] <gordonjcp> if you can't unmount it, try plugging it in and unmounting it
[10:15] <gordonjcp> if that fails, reboot it
[10:15] <jscinoz> Whenever totem/vlc/mplayer try to play back audio via ALSA the application in questions hangs, and none of these give any alsa related output in terminal, i can verify that alsa causes this because if i run mplayer with "aoss mplayer -ao oss" it works. This only started happening today, how can i fix it?
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> ok, there is an entry in my fstab for an sda drive thats not my system partition, comment that out and?
[10:16] <gordonjcp> nono
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> no no no no. ok.
[10:16] <janerik> Dual boot question.. I have a computer with ubuntu installed. I want to partition the harddrive and install xp on it. But I want to keep ubuntu
[10:16] <gordonjcp> type "mount" and see what you can see
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> ok
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> mount
[10:16] <gordonjcp> anything sda is probably your internal drive
[10:16] <CppIsWeird> oopse, wrong keyboard
[10:16] <gordonjcp> lol
[10:17] <jscinoz> I have been using windows XP in qemu saved in a 20gb raw image, is it possible for grub to boot this image and run it natively (kind of like wubi but reverse)?
[10:17] <CppIsWeird> yeah,, i think i see it, just umount /its/directory ?
[10:17] <Joshooa> What's the easiest way to install Windows XP onto my computer after I already have Linux on?
[10:18] <Joshooa> !partition
[10:18] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:18] <maveric1> gordonjcp: i got disconnected when i deleted it
[10:18] <jscinoz> Joshooa, if its possible,  you might be able to install it under qemu into a raw image and then have grub boot it...
[10:19] <Joshooa> I just want it to play WoW cause I'm sick of it freezing on me, but I don't want to have to do a whole reformat just to install Windows first
[10:19] <jscinoz> Joshooa, isn't it working in wow?
[10:19] <ankur> is there any conmmand or software that open a echo port in my ubuntu box?
[10:19] <CppIsWeird> ok, well i umount'ed its mount point, and tried again, same error.
[10:19] <ankur> any one tell me pls
[10:20] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I can get WoW to play, but it's not very great
[10:20] <maveric1> gordonjcp, NixPanther, you there?
[10:20] <CppIsWeird> ankur, IPTABLES, or perhaps easier (or sometimes a pain in the bum) firestarter
[10:20] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I have 2Gigs of ram, an nVidia 7600GS, and a 1.8 Gig Processor, and it's always skipping and the sound skips and I only get like 15-17 FPS
[10:20] <NixPanther> maveric1, yup
[10:20] <jscinoz> Joshooa, hmm i have it working perfectly, what graphic settings do you have it on?
[10:21] <maveric1> NixPanther: i got disconnected when i tried deleting the default route
[10:21] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Well, up all the way, but even if I turn them all down all the way, i get the same performance
[10:21] <jscinoz> Joshooa, i've got 2.2ghz cpu, nvidia 8400M, 4gb ram, and well over 200 uimods and i get 30-40fps
[10:21] <staykovmarin> hi, every time after i start my machine, about 10 mins after running, i am not sure why, it starts a process named "gzip" and it causes my cpu to go to 100%. i dont think i do anything i particular, it just seems to happen on its own. any ideas?
[10:21] <Joshooa> jscinoz: And my Sound Blaster Audigy doesn't seem to work right under Linux
 dont understand
[10:21] <jscinoz> are you using alsa or oss?
[10:21] <janerik> #kubuntu
[10:21] <NixPanther> maveric1, the default being the one that says 25,1,1,1?
[10:22] <maveric1> default         *               0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[10:22] <ata4ix> #ubuntu is the best!
[10:22] <maveric1> NixPanther: this one
[10:22] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I've tried all different settings, mods, no mods, lowest graphics, highest graphics, lowest sound quality, ALSA, OSS, it's always the same
[10:22] <savvas> Joshooa: sudo modprobe snd-sb-common
[10:22] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Plus, today if I had AddOns on, it wouldn't load into the world
[10:23] <jscinoz> Jooshooa, if its possible... can you wipe your ~/.wine and recreate it by running winecfg, then reinstall wow, it might just need a clean install
[10:23] <Andycasss> beasty_: Nope, didnt work
[10:23] <Joshooa> savvas: It didn't do anything
[10:23] <savvas> Joshooa: then run: alsamix and press the Escape key
[10:23] <maveric1> NixPanther, cant i set the gateway only for the eth0 line in route
[10:23] <savvas> Joshooa: after that run a program to play an mp3 file (if you have one running, restart it)
[10:23] <Joshooa> savvas: What for?
[10:24] <savvas> Joshooa: maybe this will fix your sound blaster
[10:24] <Joshooa> jscinoz: But installing WoW again takes FOREVER
[10:24] <Joshooa> savvas: Well I followed up until Amarok wouldn't openm
[10:24] <jscinoz> joshooa, are you installing from the cd's?
[10:24] <Joshooa> savvas: And it works good and has surround sound, but in WoW only, it's all skippy
[10:24] <Joshooa> jscinoz: yes
[10:24] <savvas> Joshooa: ah dunno, sorry :)
[10:24] <jscinoz> Joshooa, copy the entire contents of the CD's to disc first
[10:24] <Joshooa> jscinoz: And then that last patch, 700MB
[10:25] <jscinoz> joshooa, make sure all the *.mpq's end up in the same folder
[10:25] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Yes, done it before, just a pain
[10:25] <jscinoz> joshooa, the patch should still be somewhere in your ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft
[10:25] <maverick1> NixPanther: can i set the gateway only for the eth0 line using the terminal....
[10:25] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I have it on my desktop
[10:25] <jscinoz> Joshooa, oh i thought you meant you'd have to redownload it
[10:25] <CppIsWeird> gordonjcp: i was mistaken on the drive i was thinking it was, it does not appear to have a mount entry, how do i list hard drives on my system?
[10:26] <Joshooa> jscinoz: When I install windows I would have to
[10:26] <NixPanther> maverick, I am not sure how to do it through the terminal.
[10:26] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I really don't want windows, but I'm sick of not being able to trust if WoW will work or not, or having my sound skip all the time
[10:26] <Joshooa> jscinoz: And I use Auctioneer, and whenever it scans something, WoW hangs for a few seconds, after the full scan, before it says it's done, it might hang for half a minute
[10:26] <jscinoz> Joshooa, I'd highyl recommend the clean wow install
[10:27] <Joshooa> jscinoz: But that's what I have now, I don't know how that'd help, but I guess it's worth a shot.
[10:27] <jscinoz> Joshooa, also, in config.wtf did you set GlxApi to OPenGL?
[10:27] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Since it might keep microsoft off my comptuer
[10:27] <jscinoz> joshooa, if you dont it defaults to directX which is much slower
[10:27] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Yes
[10:27] <jscinoz> hmm
[10:27] <NixPanther> maverick, but if your route is default it won't work. Make sure that the same settings in your modem settings are in Eth0 (the ones that apply ofc)
[10:27] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine.
[10:27] <Joshooa> jscinoz: OpenGL, did the soundbuffer to 150 thing, turned off full screen glow and death effects
[10:27] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: including unmounted ones?  I don't know, it's not something I've ever really done
[10:28] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: dmesg might hold a few clues
[10:28] <jscinoz> Joshooa, hmm it runs just fine for me with those effects...
[10:28] <Happosade> How to conf ssh to ready for use?
[10:28] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I know, that's why I can't figure out what's wrong, it SHOULD work great
[10:28] <Happosade> Whit what cmd
[10:28] <CppIsWeird> dmesg
[10:28] <CppIsWeird> crap. >_<
[10:28] <gordonjcp> maverick1: ah hang on, are you on dialup?
[10:28] <jscinoz> Joshooa, meh go for clean reinstall, make sure you sudo apt-get remove --purge wine also
[10:28] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I've read of people with much worse computers making it run better, I hate it.
[10:28] <bullgard4> English help wanted. man 2 stat writes: " stat() stats the file pointed to by path and fills in buf." Is this a typo and should read: " stat() states the file pointed to by path and fills in buf."? Or is there an English verb 'to stat'? What does it mean?
[10:28] <jscinoz> joshooa, before you wipe out ~/.wine and reinstall wine and wow :P
[10:29] <Happosade> How to conf ssh to ready for use?
[10:29] <Joshooa> jscinoz: K
[10:29] <maverick1> gordonjcp: PPPoE connection....
[10:29] <Joshooa> jscinoz: What's that do?
[10:29] <gordonjcp> maverick1: ah
[10:29] <NixPanther> gordonjcp, He is on ADSL, modem >his desktop. He is trying to use a LAN to give inthernet and networking to other PC's
[10:29] <carbanm> anyone know of a good way to set up a background picture slideshow?
[10:29] <jscinoz> Joshooa :) the command uninstalls wine and removes all configuration
[10:29] <Joshooa> jscinoz: And, if I save that one huge patch, will I still need all the little ones?
[10:29] <gordonjcp> maverick1: aha, then you don't want to set the route on that PC
[10:29] <maverick1> gordonjcp: i require a username and password...but its not dialup
[10:29] <jscinoz> Joshooa, you'll need to reinstall wine with "sudo apt-get install wine"
[10:29] <Andycasss> Why isnt there a "directoryindex" in apache2.conf???
[10:30] <gordonjcp> maverick1: you want to set up forwarding on that PC, and set the route on the others
[10:30]  * NixPanther thought he was working on the other PC ><
[10:30] <jscinoz> Joshooa, you may need some intermediate ones, i started from 1.0 cd's, i needed 1.10 1.40 2.0 and 2.30
[10:30] <Andycasss> Although, the server seems to know to index "index.html" but not "index.htm"
[10:30] <gordonjcp> maverick1: or alternatively, get a crappy low-end pentium and throw a firewall distro on it
[10:30] <patrice> y a t'il des français ici?
[10:30] <maverick1> gordonjcp: i want ubuntu to use the gateway for only the local 10.xx.xx.xx addresses and not for the ppp0 ones
[10:30] <gordonjcp> maverick1: something like monowall or smoothwall
[10:30] <gordonjcp> maverick1: wait, what?
[10:30] <carbanm> anyone know of a good way to set up a background picture slideshow?
[10:30] <gordonjcp> maverick1: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:31] <maverick1> gordonjcp: it had worked fine when i had put my static ip as gateway
[10:31] <maverick1> gordonjcp: that was a long time ago....
[10:31] <NixPanther> maverick, Thats how it usually works...
[10:31] <Joshooa> jscinoz: So after the purge, I will still need to delete the folder? Should I worry about saving any wow settings or anything or just redo all my addons and such?
[10:32] <maverick1> NixPanther, it was my own IP
[10:32] <Joshooa> jscinoz: And, should I bother uninstalling wow, or uninstalling Wine will do that for me?
[10:32] <maverick1> NixPanther, but now i am unable to set the gateway
[10:32] <jscinoz> Joshooa you will lose all wine and wow configuration, but that is intended, we need to have everything default
[10:32] <NixPanther> maverick,  yes... thats how its supposed to be...
[10:32] <jscinoz> joshooa, i'd go with uninstalling and reinstalling wow, just to be sure
[10:32] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Man I hate having to edit my Config.wtf file.
[10:32] <jscinoz> joshooa, although if it work's you'll only need to do it once.
[10:32] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Anything to not have Windows though right?
[10:33] <nivis> why would i get a forbidden message in apache, when it's not forbidden?
[10:33] <jscinoz> Joshooa, before you do all the things i say, try removing all the changes you made to config.wtf
[10:33] <jscinoz> joshooa except the openGL one
[10:33] <NixPanther> maverick,  if he internet is on your pc via a modem the default gateway would be your own IP
[10:33] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Well if this doesn't, I'm formatting Linux, reinstalling Windows, WoW, and Ubuntu 7.10
[10:33] <jscinoz> joshooa just in case :P
[10:33] <jscinoz> joshooa :(
[10:33] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Do  you have WoW under 7.10 working?
[10:33] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I couldn't, I had to revert to 7.04
[10:33] <jscinoz> Yes perfectly with Max settings and all effects turned on
[10:33] <ata4ix> how to set chmod in xxxx format for rwxr-xr-x and rw-r--r-- ?
[10:33] <ata4ix> not xxx
[10:34] <jscinoz> and with compiz running at the same time :D
[10:34] <ata4ix> 0133 0022?
[10:34] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Under 7.10, it says I don't have Direct rendering
[10:34] <CppIsWeird> gordonjcp: ive identified what device it is, and ive tried to mount it, however i get that i dont have permissions to see it, when i chmod 777 it, i get "chmod: changing permissions of `drive location`: read-only file system
[10:34] <maverick1> gordonjcp: in windows i only set my IP for my LAN card, and i automatically get a dynamic IP for the internet, I set no gateway in windows...
[10:34] <Joshooa> jscinoz: But boot to 7.04, and I do
[10:34] <jscinoz> Joshooa, hmm they recently fixed the nvidia driver packages so you should now
[10:34] <blackfox> how can install new effact ubuntu like fire ??
[10:34] <Joshooa> jscinoz: So now I have 2 versions of 7.04 and 1 of 7.10, and I hate that boot screen
[10:34] <jscinoz> Joshooa, you should be able to use nvidia-glx-new from in synaptic under 7.10
[10:34] <maverick1> gordonjcp: i am able to use both the internet and LAN simultaneously
[10:35] <Joshooa> jscinoz: How long ago was this?
[10:35] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: if it's ntfs, it might be mounted read-only
[10:35] <jscinoz> Joshooa, Gutsy Tribe 6 beta :P
[10:35] <CppIsWeird> fine, but i still cant see anything in it
[10:35] <jscinoz> Joshooa nvidia-glx-new version 100.14.11 onwards work
[10:35] <gordonjcp> maverick1: I don't understand what you're trying to do
[10:35] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Just a little bit ago I did sudo apt-get install nvidia and tabbed to see what there was and didn't see it
[10:35] <jscinoz> joshooa, try synaptic, its a graphical frontend for apt-get
[10:36] <maverick1> gordonjcp: i want to set a default gateway for eth0...thats it...but i cannot do it using interfaces/GUI....
[10:36] <jscinoz> Joshooa, try nvidia-glx-new first, and if it doesnt work (your GPU may be too old) then use nvidia-glx
[10:36] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Either way, even if I do get this to work, I want to reformat and ONLY have ubuntu 7.10, but I can't even boot into that without it messing up on me
[10:36] <jscinoz> Define messing up
[10:36] <Joshooa> jscinoz: But it's a 7600GS, it's not old
[10:36]  * NixPanther nips to get a drink
[10:37] <jscinoz> Joshooa i know, but i cant remember if nvidia-glx-new was 8 series only or 7 and 8
[10:37] <gordonjcp> maverick: you've already got a default gateway
[10:37] <Andycasss> Why isnt there a "directoryindex" in apache2.conf??? Although, the server seems to know to index "index.html" but not "index.htm"
[10:37] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Oh
[10:38] <maverick> 10.0.0.0        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 eth0
[10:38] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I wonder how if I could get it working under 7.10, I don't like running 7.04 anymore
[10:38] <blackfox> how can i gat effacts fire at ubuntu ??
[10:38] <maverick> gordonjcp: :(...the * is default gateway
[10:38] <pawan> how to use bluetooth
[10:38] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I also don't like not having Pidgin
[10:38] <brobostigon> hi
[10:38] <jscinoz> Joshooa, i can't think of any reason why 7.10 wont work, for me graphical perfromance is much better
[10:39] <jscinoz> Joshooa, pidgin works just fine in 7.10
[10:39] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I know, but it's not in 7.04, I'm on Gaim
[10:39] <jscinoz> oh
[10:39] <jscinoz> give 7.10 a try again :)
[10:39] <Joshooa> jscinoz: 7.10 used to work, but now I boot up and it's on 800x600 and looks all crappy, and I can't change it
[10:39] <gordonjcp> maverick: do you know how a default gateway works?
[10:39] <Slart> Andycasss: "know to index index.html" ??? you have some kind of local search going?
[10:39] <jscinoz> Joshooa thats because you installed the driver wrong and it starts in failsafe mode
[10:39] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I never installed a driver
[10:40] <pawan> how to use bluetooth
[10:40] <jscinoz> joshooa, boot up 7.10 and get to console, run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"
[10:40] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine.
[10:40] <maverick> gordonjcp: a bit...
[10:40] <jscinoz> joshooa, and hopefully its all good
[10:40] <Joshooa> jscinoz: That's what I am going to try now
[10:40] <Joshooa> jscinoz: And, anyway I am th inking of trying to find my 7.10 DVD or burn a CD of it, and redo my computer with just that and hope for the best
[10:40] <jscinoz> Joshooa get back to me if it works or not, if i'm not on irc my email is jscinoz@gmail.com
[10:40] <jscinoz> Joshooa, yeah everything clean installed would be best
[10:40] <Joshooa> jscinoz: That's what i want
[10:41] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I just want to do Windows first, so that if 7.10 wont do WoW, I can go to that
[10:41] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Cause I can't go without my wow
[10:41] <Joshooa> jscinoz: I did that for about 3 weeks when 7.10 came out before I had enough and reinstalled 7.04 as a dual boot, but since I play WoW, i never used 7.10
[10:41] <Andycasss> Slart:  sorry?
[10:41] <pawan> how to use bluetooth
[10:42] <beasty_> anyone inhere is using ccreds ?
[10:42] <Joshooa> jscinoz: K here I go
[10:42] <Andycasss> Slart: Im just trying to make index.htm work as an index... Right now it just lists the files when i access the web
[10:42] <Slart> Andycasss: you talk about indexing "index.html" but not "index.htm"..
[10:42] <jscinoz> Joshooa, good luck, email me on jscinoz@gmail.com if you need more help and im not here
[10:43] <Slart> Andycasss: ahh.. you want to set which page is shows when you don't specify one?
[10:43] <gordonjcp> maverick: it handles what happens if you don't know where a packet is destined for
[10:43] <Andycasss> Slart: YEs
[10:43] <gordonjcp> maverick: why are you trying to set two default routes?
[10:43] <Slart> Andycasss: so when you go to www.myhost.com/Andy/ it shows you www.myhost.com/Andy/index.html
[10:44] <Slart> Andycasss: that's a setting somewhere in the apache configuration...hang on.. I'll see if I can find it
[10:44] <Andycasss> I want it to show www.myhost.com/Andy/index.htm (not html)
[10:44] <Andycasss> html works fine
[10:44] <GMW> hi there
[10:44] <NixPanther> Hi GMW
[10:44] <GMW> how are u today?
[10:44] <Slart> Andycasss: the index.htm is just a legacy from windows inability to have more than 3 characters after the dot... sure you want to limit yourself to that?
[10:45] <Andycasss> I want both htm and html work
[10:45] <Andycasss> Slart: I didnt have the "directoryindex" value in my apache2.conf, thats the thing, i tried applying the value myself, but it still didnt work...
[10:45] <GMW> hey dudes what we are call the liunx father??
[10:45] <Slart> Andycasss: soo.. you want the browser to show both pages at once?
[10:46] <NixPanther> Good ty, but this is for support :-) If you need help come stratght out with it so people can read it :-)
[10:46] <Andycasss> Slart: No... I want this page to work with htm index file: http://andycas.pri.ee/files/
[10:46] <Andycasss> Currently it lists the files
[10:46] <GMW> my ssh get ready .. ummmmmmm
[10:46] <Slart> Andycasss: can't you just change the name of the index file? or you have lots of them?
[10:46] <Fredy_BackSlash> /leave
[10:47] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Hey
[10:47] <Andycasss> Slart: I could, but other users might not want to...
[10:47] <Joshooa> jscinoz: On 7.10 now, installed that, still no direct rendering
[10:47] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it, and when i try to chmod or chown it, it complains that i cant do that because the device
[10:47] <Slart> Andycasss: ok.. I'm not sure you can have both.. but I'll look.. hang on
[10:47] <GMW> hey there how can i remove on beef sounds ?
[10:47] <CppIsWeird> where did that get cut off?
[10:47] <Andycasss> but index.php works too, so i should be able...
[10:47] <gordonjcp> Andycasss: have a look in mods-enabled/dir.conf
[10:48] <Joshooa> jscinoz: Now I get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". when I try glxinfo | grep rendering
[10:48] <maverick> gordonjcp: you there?
[10:48] <gordonjcp> Andycasss: btw .html is correct, .htm isn't really - it's a hangover from broken old Windows servers
[10:48] <gordonjcp> maverick: yup
[10:48] <gordonjcp> CppIsWeird: have you rebooted?
[10:48] <blackfox> how can i gat effacts fire at ubuntu 7.10?
[10:49] <GMW> hey there plz introduce of me the shell programming or basic things
[10:49] <elena__> milano
[10:49] <elena__> ciao
[10:49] <maverick> gordonjcp: right now i set the default gateway, i could use my LAN, but i got disconnected from the net :(
[10:49] <NixPanther> GMW, Have you read the ubuntu forums?
[10:49] <Andycasss> gordonjcp: Thank you so much, this is exacly what i was looking for!
[10:49] <maverick> gordonjcp: i removed the gateway, i was able to connect, but i cannot use my lan now
[10:49] <GMW> not yet
[10:49] <jscinoz> joshooa, can you do lsmod and confirm nvidia-glx-new is loaded?
[10:50] <GMW> would u tell me ubun2 forums web site?
[10:50] <brobostigon> !forums
[10:50] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[10:50] <Slart> GMW: forums.ubun2.com I guess
[10:50] <gordonjcp> maverick: is your lan connected to your desktop PC through a router?
[10:50] <GMW> thxs slart
[10:51] <maverick> gordonjcp: no, it is not...i just set the gateway as my own IP....
[10:51] <Rautamiekka> How to empty TrashBin when there is files/folders which require sudo to remove them ?
[10:51] <gordonjcp> maverick: why, ffs?
[10:51] <gordonjcp> maverick: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:51] <NixPanther> brobostigon, awww I went and got the link and everything :P
[10:51] <Slart> Rautamiekka: there are .Trash folders in many places.. one is in your home dir.. just cd there and du a sudo rm * or something
[10:52] <Rautamiekka> Slart, I try that
[10:52] <Slart> Rautamiekka: that's a capital T in .Trash.. I always forget that
[10:52] <GMW> how to downloads like of wolfenstein enemy terrortory type 3d game??
[10:52] <dgjones> bye
[10:52] <Rautamiekka> Slart, Heh I would had noticed it anyway
[10:52] <maverick> gordonjcp: if i do not add a gateway, i am unable to use my LAN, but can connect to the internet, whereas, if add  a gateway, its vice-versa
[10:52] <netcrash> Hello, Is there any app out there that get's feeds and functions has a "gadget" ?
[10:53] <NixPanther> GMW, Take a look at the forums, They are very helpful
[10:53] <Slart> GMW: it's available from many places.. try googling for "enemy territory linux"
[10:53] <gordonjcp> maverick: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:53] <savi0r666> hey there in my desktop effects i cant make them 3d or anything it says composite extention not avalible
[10:53] <savi0r666> what does that mean exactly?
[10:53] <maverick> gordonjcp: i am trying to make ubuntu use the gateway for eth0 and not use the gateway for ppp0
[10:53] <Slart> netcrash: check out screenlets.. i think there's a rss reader there
[10:53] <gordonjcp> maverick: stop, just stop
[10:53] <Rautamiekka> Slart, Thanks it worked but TrashBin still shows it has files inside altho it doesn't
[10:53] <GMW> i've find to this et-linux-2.55.x86.run lol
[10:53] <netcrash> Slart: going to check
[10:53] <gordonjcp> maverick: forget entirely about gateways, eth0 and ppp0
[10:54] <CppIsWeird> gordonjcp: yes, rebooted, same thing
[10:54] <gordonjcp> maverick: just forget the whole lot for a minute
[10:54] <Rautamiekka> Slart, I actually removed entire .Trash from ~ lol
[10:54] <maverick> gordonjcp: sure
[10:54] <savi0r666> any ideas on the composite extentions?
[10:54] <gordonjcp> maverick: what exactly are you trying to get to happen here?
[10:54] <gordonjcp> maverick: are you trying to share your connection?
[10:54] <jscinoz> GMW, if you're interested i actually made a deb of ET 2.60b with an alsa patch built in.
[10:54] <gordonjcp> excuse me, phone
[10:54] <Slart> Rautamiekka: try deleting somethnig.. it might recreate it for you
[10:54] <maverick> gordonjcp: i am trying to get my LAN as well as my internet working at the same time, as it does in windows
[10:54] <savi0r666> any idea?
[10:55] <GMW> sure jscinoz
[10:55] <Rautamiekka> Slart, Thank you, all is now fine with it :)
[10:55] <GMW> i dont know ear to ear transfor lol
[10:55] <Slart> savi0r666: composite should be enabled for compiz to work.. are you using nvidia or ati?
[10:55] <Slart> Rautamiekka: nice =)
[10:55] <jscinoz> GMW, give me a minute i'll make a torrent of it
[10:55] <savi0r666> ati readeon
[10:56] <savi0r666> and i can run 3d games no problem
[10:56] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it and when i try to chmod or chown it.
[10:56] <aan> huh
[10:56] <Slart> savi0r666: can't help you then.. don't know much about the ati drivers
[10:56] <GMW> oh god u've gonna make a pure server?
[10:56] <Slart> !ati | savi0r666
[10:56] <ubotu> savi0r666: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <Slart> perhaps there is something there
[10:56] <GMW> oh my jesus u doesn't
[10:56] <savi0r666> there already installed
[10:56] <jscinoz> GMW, you know how to use DHT for bitorrrent right?
[10:56] <NixPanther> gordonjcp, As far as I can see he is trying to share his internet connection with his home network. He has an ADSL modem plugged into his desktop and wants to share it via LAN (I hope that helps)
[10:56] <savi0r666> they are already installed
[10:57] <jscinoz> GMW, hang on i'll add it to torrentbox
[10:57] <GMW> sorry i dont know about torrentbox
[10:58] <rindolf> Hi all!
[10:58] <Slart> NixPanther: I'm not sure that is what he wants.. at least that wasn't the goal yesterday... the goal was to get a program run under wine to use his LAN connection instead of the ppp connection.. the program is a LAN messenger thingy.. LAN chat kind of program
[10:58] <jscinoz> GMW, its a tracker,
[10:58] <jscinoz> gmw, you know how to use bittorrent right?
[10:58] <GMW> umm
[10:58] <GMW> sorry i cant
[10:58] <jscinoz> ahh screwit ill put it on rapidshare or soemthing
[10:58] <rindolf> Just for the record - how do I edit mount points GUI-ically (i.e: not by editing /etc/fstab) in Ubuntu 7.10?
[10:58] <GMW> i known only use dhcp server
[10:59] <NixPanther> Slart, Oh my.
[10:59] <Slart> rindolf: I'm not sure you can.. there is one utility for setting permissions and stuff.. disk mount management or something
[10:59] <jscinoz> rindolf, afaik you dont
[10:59] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it and when i try to chmod or chown it.
[10:59] <maverick> Slart: I understand now that, if I put a gateway, it starts working....
[10:59] <ere4si> CppIsWierd: did you format the drive at all?
[11:00] <CppIsWeird> no, ive used it for months with absolutely no filesystem, hell yeah!
[11:00] <GMW> my powerful router ubun2 linux it's almost filltering stranged packet
[11:00] <maverick> Slart: but my internet dosent, if i put a gateway
[11:00] <GMW> i love it
[11:00] <NixPanther> maverick, ok see... now we're getting a fuller picture of what you need...
[11:00] <rindolf> jscinoz: hmmm...
[11:00] <CppIsWeird> not to mention feisty is soo awesome, it doesnt even require the drive to have a fs to use it
[11:00] <CppIsWeird> stupid gutsy.
[11:00] <GMW> XGL ... it my wishs
[11:00] <Slart> maverick: I tried yesterday.. I still don't understand why IPmessenger choses the ppp-connection over the eth connection.. it just doesn't make sense in my little world..
[11:00] <GMW> XGL when im use that XGL
[11:00] <jscinoz> GMW, have you got an email, it'll take an hour or two to upload, i'll have yousendit email you the link when its done
[11:01] <maverick> Slart: it shows me my local ip when i put a gateway today....
[11:01] <ere4si> CppIsWeird: they come with fat16 on I thought?
[11:01] <GMW> i have a ftp ..
[11:01] <GMW> do u have a ftp server?
[11:01] <Slart> maverick: yes.. I guess when you put eth as default gateway it can't use the internet.. so it has to use the eth connection.. but it should be able to do that anyway.
[11:02] <GMW> if u got the ftp server ill connect ur server
[11:02] <jscinoz> GMW, yeah hang on
[11:02] <CppIsWeird> im pretty sure its fat32 they come with, and yes it is using vfat
[11:02] <GMW> oh ya ill wait it some ..
[11:02] <NixPanther> Slart, some of the newer ones often do >< Oh for the simple days of net send
[11:02] <GMW> 41% complty .. umm common ET
[11:02] <jscinoz> GMW infact i might already have it on my webserver...
[11:03] <Slart> NixPanther: net send.. or even ipxsend .. those were the days.. *sigh*
[11:03] <gordonjcp> maverick: are you trying to share your internet connection with other PCs on your LAN?
[11:03] <Ernst> how do i get verbose feedback of nm-applet
[11:03] <maverick> gordonjcp: NO!
[11:03] <GMW> can u tell me more?
[11:03] <toresn> hi, after last reboot all the directories and files in my home location appeared on my desktop
[11:03] <GMW> ill test for u
[11:03] <gordonjcp> maverick: ok, what *are* you trying to do?
[11:03] <froglet> i'm using ubuntu gutsy, with cups and an hp color laserjet 2605dtn. I want the printer to choose the paper source automatically, but it looks like I have to specify a particular tray, which is not what i'm used to (i didn't have to in feisty, iirc). can i get automatic paper tray selection?
[11:03] <Slart> Ernst: try running it in a terminal.. perhaps there are some switches to add.. -v is a common one
[11:03] <NixPanther> Slart, Even winpopup was nice compared to whats available now ><
[11:03] <toresn> how can i remove them, without removing the actual files?
[11:04] <maverick> gordonjcp: OK, Ill give you a clear picture
[11:04] <toresn> hi, after last reboot all the directories and files in my home location appeared on my desktop
[11:04] <toresn> how can i remove them, without removing the actual files?
[11:04] <NixPanther> Why do I always imagine a glass of water when someone says that?
[11:04] <GMW> need website? plz install APM that's so difficultly to me
[11:04] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. I've used this drive between the computers and others for months. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it and when i try to chmod
[11:05] <Slart> toresn: I've had this happen too.. something about gnome not realising that the Desktop files should be in ~/Desktop not in ~/
[11:05] <GMW> 54% done how much more wait ..
[11:05] <maverick> gordonjcp: Ubuntu uses my ppp0 IP address for all my LAN applications, so they get screwed and i cannot use them properly. i want it to use the eth0 address for LAN
[11:05] <jscinoz> GMW its uploading going to take about an hour
[11:05] <jscinoz> GMW, i'd recommened waiting for it, as it eases installation by being a debian pacakge
[11:05] <jscinoz> GMW, just double click it and its installed :D
[11:05] <gordonjcp> maverick: have you set an IP address for etho0?
[11:05] <gordonjcp> eth0, even
[11:05] <GMW> oh my god
[11:06] <GMW> what's gonna do man?
[11:06] <maverick> gordonjcp: yes i have
[11:06] <GMW> oh my god ..
[11:06] <Rautamiekka> toresn: install ubuntutweak, with it you can set Desktop files to be in ~/Desktop
[11:06] <GMW> my hard dick is only1
[11:06] <GMW> i dont have a hdb
[11:06] <GMW> i have a hda
[11:06] <CppIsWeird> GMW, keep it G rated homie.
[11:06] <gordonjcp> maverick: and what exactly isn't working?
[11:07] <jscinoz> >_<
[11:07] <jscinoz> so very wrong.
[11:07] <maverick> gordonjcp: check this out, http://www.file-post.com/view_image.php?id=570
[11:07]  * NixPanther spits coffee at the screen and chokes
[11:07] <NixPanther> I should hope it is only 1
[11:07] <CppIsWeird> we shold hope you only have one... more would just be weird.
[11:07]  * Slart has the same problem as GMW.. only got one.. ;)
[11:07] <maverick> gordonjcp: it took a long while to load these...
[11:08] <GMW> what are u talking about homie?
[11:08] <CppIsWeird> GMW: my hard dick is only1
[11:08] <gordonjcp> maverick: <shrug>
[11:08] <Slart> GMW: take a look at what you wrote
[11:08] <NixPanther> Slart, I would call that natural, I'd call it a problem if there were more
[11:08] <CppIsWeird> GMW: my hard >>>dick<<< is only1
[11:08] <GMW> oh yeah my words so wrong
[11:08] <Slart> NixPanther: =)
[11:08] <Rautamiekka> LOL CppIsWeird
[11:08] <maverick> gordonjcp: so, i want it to use the eth0 IP...
[11:09] <GMW> so u guys first stringer?
[11:09] <toresn> Rautamiekka: ok, can i install it with the synaptic package manager?
[11:09] <[cd]> anyone know the name of the program that ubuntu uses to make it boot fast?
[11:09] <Rautamiekka> toresn, type SUDO APTITUDE INSTALL UBUNTUTWEAK to Terminal (noncapital)
[11:09] <GMW> oh look out my tux is sleeping now Wow
[11:10] <ikonia> [cd]: do you mean init ?
[11:10] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it and when i try to chmod or chown it.
[11:10] <GMW> get up tux u gonna work job now
[11:10] <[cd]> yeah , i know ubuntu using its own alternative what its callled?
[11:10] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: what is the label on th disk
[11:10] <CppIsWeird> ...
[11:10] <NixPanther> Do you guys have a chat channel too? Or do you just hang out in here helping out the soon to be jedi of the Linux world?
[11:10] <CppIsWeird> sabel?
[11:10] <CppIsWeird> * label?
[11:10] <ikonia> [cd]: its not its own alternative, its called upstart and is publicly available
[11:10] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: yes the drive "name"
[11:11] <[cd]> i know its opensource thats why i was looking for its name ;)
[11:11] <GMW> tux step by step when were hard to hard job
[11:11] <CppIsWeird> ikonia, i have no idea, what is the pertinence?
[11:11] <movela> hello fellow nixers, need help w/DEVEDE?
[11:11] <ikonia> CppIsWeird the pertienence is the name of the disk is normally used as the mount point, hence the question on "special" characters
[11:11] <ikonia> !offtopic >GMW
[11:11] <ikonia> movela ask the question
[11:12] <GMW> yes? ikonia
[11:12] <ikonia> GMW read the message from ubotu
[11:12] <GMW> where is it message?
[11:13] <Slart> movela: help with DEVEDE? as in DVD?
[11:13] <ikonia> GMW look for a private message from the user "ubotu"
[11:13] <GMW> i look up that
[11:13]  * NixPanther should probably get round to asking her question
[11:14] <GMW> are u this chnnel head master? ikonia
[11:14] <toresn> Rautamiekka: hmm, it says it couldn't find the package... but surely there must be an easier way to do this?  it has been the way should be up until now
[11:14] <ahagen> question : when connecting a fakesink (with sync) to my decodebin I am unable to query the pipeline for duration/position. How am I supposed to handle this?
[11:14] <toresn> +it
[11:14] <ikonia> GMW not at all no
[11:14] <ahagen> Needless to say it works fine for real audio sinks
[11:14] <GMW> excuse me sir?
[11:15] <ahagen> argh, wrong channel
[11:15] <Rautamiekka> toresn, Sorry my mistake, the package is ubuntu-tweak with a line between the ubuntu and tweak :)
[11:15] <ikonia> GMW no, I'm not the head master
[11:15] <NixPanther> hehe ahagen
[11:15] <Slart> !info ubuntu-tweak
[11:15] <ubotu> Package ubuntu-tweak does not exist in gutsy
[11:15] <GMW> we know u must gonnabe head master
[11:15] <Rautamiekka> Ah crap
[11:15] <GMW> u get hide something
[11:15] <Rautamiekka> What the
[11:15] <ikonia> !offtopic | GMW
[11:15] <ubotu> GMW: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:15] <timob> anyone tried enlightenment, or any other WMs lately .... any recomendations?
[11:15] <movela> thanks ikonia: well, does it matter on the advaced settings if i choose interlace, FFMPEG deinterlacing, linear blend, etc. for my DVD to be playable on a DVD player
[11:15] <Rautamiekka> How ubotu can say it doesn't exist when I've installed it
[11:16] <toresn> Rautamiekka: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ubuntu-tweak"
[11:16] <Rautamiekka> grrrr
[11:16] <ikonia> timob stick with the ubuntu supported versions unless you have a real desire to change
[11:16] <timob> i do
[11:16] <CppIsWeird> ikonia: i have no idea what the label is, but feisty functions with the drive just fine, and the gutsy box has worked with the drive for months without ever a problem.
[11:16] <Rautamiekka> toresn, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-tweak-ubuntu.html
[11:16] <ikonia> timob go for it then, trial and error is the only method
[11:16] <ikonia> CppIsWeird ahh so this has worked with gutsy before
[11:17] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: thats a good start, can you please show me the error message again
[11:17] <hyput>  /server irc.ii.net
[11:17] <hyput>  /server irc.ii.net
[11:17] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: I assume you/nothing has changed the disk label
[11:17] <maverick> gordonjcp, NixPanther, Slart, thanks a lot for your help :)...will be going now
[11:17] <GMW> wellcome to area well come well come to the area
[11:17] <Slart> maverick: you're welcome.. good luck
[11:17] <CppIsWeird> not that im aware of
[11:17] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it and when i try to chmod or chown it.
[11:17] <NixPanther> tc maverick
[11:17] <ikonia> !offtopic | GMW
[11:17] <ubotu> GMW: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:17] <maverick> you too
[11:18] <ikonia> CppIsWeird what file system is on the disk ?
[11:18] <CppIsWeird> ntfs
[11:18] <GMW> ikonia what's wrong with u?
[11:18] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: ok, so I assume your mounting it with ntfs-3g not the ntfs driver
[11:18] <CppIsWeird> no idea
[11:18] <ikonia> GMW: nothing, please keep the offtopic chatter out of this channel
[11:18] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: ok, I think I have a clue on the problem
[11:18] <GMW> umm okay
[11:18] <CppIsWeird> good. :) thats what i want to hear
[11:19] <ikonia> CppIsWeird I "assume" what is happening is one of a few things which we should be able to narrorw down.
[11:19] <ikonia> CppIsWeird few questions first. 1.) Where did the drive used to get mounted in gutsy
[11:19] <CppIsWeird> /mdeia/disk
[11:19] <CppIsWeird> *media
[11:20] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: ok, cracking so thats a straight forward name
[11:20] <froglet> how can I get alt-shift-tab to do the "right thing" (reverse alt-tab window switching) with compiz under gnome? ccsm won't change that shortcut
[11:20] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: is it mounted now ?
[11:20] <CppIsWeird> its not, its in my feisty computer
[11:21] <GMW> feisty ... what is that?
[11:21] <ikonia> CppIsWeird ok, do you have time to mount it now with me ?
[11:21] <CppIsWeird> sure
[11:21] <Rautamiekka> GMW, a Ubuntu release
[11:21] <ikonia> GMW: a slightly older release of ubuntu, 7.04
[11:21] <Niculittu> good morning everyone
[11:21] <GMW> that's utilty
[11:21] <GMW> oh sounds good thxs
[11:21] <CppIsWeird> er
[11:21] <CppIsWeird> i should use versions then i think i got the names mixed up
[11:21] <CppIsWeird> 7.10 is feisty?
[11:21] <Rautamiekka> 7.10 Is Gutsy
[11:21] <Slart> 7.10 is gutsy
[11:21] <CppIsWeird> right
[11:22] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: no 7.04 is fesity
[11:22] <Slart> !feisty
[11:22] <GMW> that's really good
[11:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu.  Upgrading to Fesity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[11:22] <GMW> im on the 7.10 gutsy
[11:22] <Niculittu> i need a tool to launch program like as MacOs...does exist in linux?
[11:22] <CppIsWeird> well then the feisty box is being bad and the gutsy box is being good
[11:22] <CppIsWeird> that change your course of action?
[11:22] <Slart> Niculittu: you mean like the thing with icons at the bottom of the screen?
[11:22] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: being bad and good ?
[11:23] <CppIsWeird> not working/working with the drive
[11:23] <GMW> my case i have a twice installed to ubun2 7.10 server
[11:23] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: you just told me fesity worked
[11:23] <GMW> but didnt lookup x-server
[11:24] <eth01> how would i change foofoo.conf into foofoofoo.conf?
[11:24] <GMW> wow remove at all just reinstall
[11:24] <ikonia> first bit of live in here
[11:24] <CppIsWeird> and i just said i got them mixed up
[11:24] <ikonia> eth01: mv foofoo.conf foofoofoo.conf
[11:24] <eth01> ikonia: thank you very much.
[11:24] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: the problem is probably then fesity not using the ntfs-3g driver
[11:24] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: most probably as fesity didn't ship with it
[11:25] <GMW> i guess so difficult for me setting ip masq ..
[11:25] <toresn> hmm
[11:25] <Niculittu> slart: yes...
[11:25] <CppIsWeird> how is that a problem? i mean, drive worked in this computer for months, then all the sudden i need to upgrade to the newest ntfs driver? False.
[11:25] <GMW> okay homie ip masq that's my problem
[11:25] <toresn> Rautamiekka: i installed it, but it didn't help much
[11:25] <Slart> Niculittu: I don't think there's anything that is easy to install.. there is the kxdocker or gdesktlets... or kooldock .. or Kiba dock..I think they all require you to compile it yourself
[11:25] <Rautamiekka> toresn You can't find the option there ?
[11:25] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: updates happen
[11:25] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: at a guess/assumption
[11:26] <jaym> what file needs to be edited for ndiswrapper to be inserted at the end of a bootup?
[11:26] <Rautamiekka> toresn, It's under Desktop in lefthand list and untick Use Home Directory as Desktop
[11:26] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: the non-autmount is an unusual issue which will take time to debug, the chown issue is more likley down to it either being mounted read only or without the ntfs-3g driver
[11:26] <Rautamiekka> Desktop-Desktop Icon Settings*
[11:26] <Niculittu> allright...i won't install it...
[11:26] <Slart> CppIsWeird: I think ntfs4g became the default ntfs driver in 7.10.. before that you had something else.. with only read support..
[11:26] <GMW> does any1 tell me ver very useful for ubun2 tip?
[11:26] <ikonia> GMW: ask specific questions
[11:27] <ikonia> Slart: are you being serious ?
[11:27] <CppIsWeird> how do i determine which one the computer is using? im pretty sure ive written things to the drive in the past on that computer
[11:27] <Slart> yes.. am I wrong?
[11:27] <ikonia> Slart I thought fesity didn't ship with 3g but had a repo available but gutsy shipped wtih 3g
[11:28] <Slart> ikonia: I didn't get ntfs3g installed until I upgraded to gutsy.. before that I had only read support..
[11:28] <GMW> okay homie how to make a public dns server?
[11:28] <CppIsWeird> look, ive got school in one more hour, i need the drive to function, already spent 2 hours in here, how complex can this issue be? worked last night, not tonight, what could have gone wrong from potentially two causes, either me shutting down the computer improperly, or just pulling out the USB cable without unmounting it.
[11:28] <GMW> my case is shared ip forwarding KT company
[11:28] <ikonia> Slart yes thats correct
[11:28] <Slart> ikonia: that was what I meant..
[11:29] <ikonia> GMW: running a public dns service is a long and professional task to setup
[11:29] <ikonia> Slart: just checking as NTFS4g had me thrown. NTFS3g is the "read/write" driver
[11:29] <GMW> u know it head master
[11:29] <ikonia> !attitude | | CppIsWeird
[11:29] <ubotu> | CppIsWeird: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:29] <Slart> ikonia: bah.. sorry.. I meant ntfs3g.. typo
[11:29] <GMW> we're called u head master
[11:29] <CppIsWeird> attitude?
[11:29] <ikonia> Slart: just checking
[11:29] <simo> hiiii
[11:30] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: "look I need this working" don't take that approach, this is a public support channel
[11:30] <toresn> Rautamiekka: i found it, but nothing's happening... hold on, i'll put up a screenshot
[11:30] <Rautamiekka> toresn, Ok
[11:31] <CppIsWeird> i plug in an external usb drive into my ubuntu gutsy computer and i get the following error message: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)  plugging the drive into my feisty computer it works fine. When i try to mount the device manually, it complains that i dont have permission to see it and when i try to chmod or chown it.
[11:31] <toresn> Rautamiekka: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6048/screenshotxe1.png
[11:31] <ikonia> CppIsWeird is it mounted in fesity at all at the moment ?
[11:32] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: also please alter your question. Your question STILL says "it works fine in fesity" which you've told me it doesn't you told me you had it back to front and it worked in gutsy not fesity
[11:32] <Rautamiekka> toresn, Is the option ticked ?
[11:33] <Rautamiekka> toresn, I mean, tick it, hit OK and Quit, reboot, tick it either off or on, hit OK and Quit and reboot
[11:33] <blackfox> how to gat beryl ?
[11:33] <toresn> Rautamiekka: the options for 'show desktop icons' and 'show mounted volumes on desktop' is ticked
[11:33] <ikonia> blackfox beryl is dead. Compiz-fusion is the new version and its already shipped with gutsy
[11:33] <lapisdecor> i need to use postfix or sendmail to send php emails because moodle needs it, but my mail server is on another computer, should i installpostfix, or is there a way to confgure php to send mails using an external MX record ?
[11:33] <blackfox> ooo
[11:33] <ikonia> 11:32 < lapisdecor> i need to use postfix or sendmail to send php emails
[11:33] <ikonia> oops
[11:33] <ikonia> sorry
[11:33] <toresn> Rautamiekka: these were the settings the first time i started 'ubuntu-tweaks'
[11:33] <gaoyang> hat?
[11:33] <J-_> what's a good capture program?
[11:34] <ikonia> lapisdecor you have many ways of doing it, use a local sendmail/postfix/$mail to relay to your external server, or just set the "mail server" option in the php code
[11:34] <ikonia> lapisdecor: its nothing to do with an MX record, so don't get it confused
[11:34] <toresn> Rautamiekka: the settings looks correct in ubuntu-tweak, but not on the actual desktop... if you know what i mean?
[11:34] <Rautamiekka> toresn Yes I do
[11:34] <blackfox> how to gat Compiz-fusion?
[11:35] <ikonia> blackfox: its already installed in ubuntu 7.10, are you using 7.10/gutsy gibbon?
[11:35] <Rautamiekka> toresn,  tick it, hit OK and Quit, reboot, tick it either off, hit OK and Quit and reboot
[11:35] <NixPanther> Okies... Here is the issue I'm having with Ubuntu. I was using Fiesty, but after some problems and a HDD death (old hdd) I replaced the hdd with another and installed Gutsy. I clean installed from CD (Not upgraded from feisty) and I immediately had sound issues. CD's would play with sound mixer, but Flash was working only sporadically and video's in firefox wouldn't work (IE youtube). I have done all the gutsy upgrades since but I still have int
[11:35] <NixPanther> ermittent sound issues. The more major issues I am having though are Crashes. My PC worked well under Dapper, ok under feisty and gutsy its terrible. It will crash at least 7 times in a day, If I'm Lucky. A lot of the times its when I am being graphics intensive with it, but sometimes it happens when I'm not doing anything at all. I have: AMD 2200+ nVidia 6800 and an NForce Soundcard. I have 1024 RAM.
[11:35] <toresn> Rautamiekka: ok
[11:35] <blackfox> i jusk know ubuntu 7.10
[11:35] <ikonia> NixPanther 1.) are you using ubuntu 7.10 64bit version 2.) what version of the flash plugin are you using
[11:36] <CppIsWeird> External USB Drive plugged into Feisty i get the following error: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) When i plug the drive into my gutsy computer, it functions perfectly. I was using the usb drive with my feisty computer last night just fine and have been using it for months. I probably pulled it out without properly unmounting it. How do i resolve this issue?
[11:36] <ikonia> blackfox: its already in 7.10
[11:36] <blackfox> ooo
[11:36] <ikonia> CppIsWeird is it currently mounted in fesity ?
[11:36] <lapisdecor> ikonia the trouble has to do with php configuration, because moodle conects to mail default ports and my mail server is gmail for domains
[11:37] <ikonia> lapisdecor don't worry about domains, you want your smtp server, in the config file for moodle there should be an option to set your smtpp server
[11:37] <blackfox> in ubuntu 7.10 can change effact ?
[11:37] <ikonia> blackfox: totally, in systems->preferences use the "desktop-effects" button
[11:37] <Slart> yes.. system , preferences, advanced desktop effects
[11:37] <lapisdecor> yes there is but i get an error when trying to send mail
[11:37] <ata4ix> http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0EofQr9dr4 - that's really scary for all peoples who don't afraid V.V.Putin -  russian president...
[11:37] <toresn> Rautamiekka: no changes
[11:38] <ikonia> lapisdecor ok, thats fair enough, what is the error
[11:38] <ikonia> !offtopic | ata4ix
[11:38] <ubotu> ata4ix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:38] <NixPanther> ikonia, afaik Its 64 bit. Flash plugin ... *goes to check ff*
[11:38] <Rautamiekka> toresn, Then I am out of ideas, sorry
[11:38] <boubbin> how to join mp3s in one mp3 file, any app for it ?
[11:38] <toresn> Rautamiekka: ok, thanks anyway
[11:38] <ikonia> NixPanther flash isn't availabe in 64bit, only a free version called "gnash" which is in early development and not very "stable" sites like youtube may have problems
[11:38] <lapisdecor> i think its an autentication problem, because moodle uses default mail ports and gmail for domains use secure ones
[11:39] <Slart> ata4ix: an url to a russian youtube video.. in russian.. with russian text.. in an international channel with english as default language.. nice thinking there
[11:39] <ikonia> lapisdecor forget gmail - your not interested in your domains, your interested in an smtp server
[11:39] <NixPanther> ikonia, about:plugind tells me - Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48
[11:39] <ikonia> NixPanther: can you show me "uname -a"
[11:39] <blackfox> i cant find desktop effact
[11:39] <ata4ix> Slart, you dont need to know russian
[11:39] <ata4ix> look and understand
[11:39] <ikonia> ata4ix: its not appropriate for this channel
[11:39] <ata4ix> Putin - is antichirst :)
[11:39] <ikonia> ata4ix: please don't post again
[11:39] <ata4ix> ok ok
[11:40] <ata4ix> sorry
[11:40] <NixPanther> ikonia, Linux Silver 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:40] <TheMafia> how can I restrict local users access to printers on a multiuser machine?
[11:40] <oyvindra>  I'm having problems with cpufreq. I'm running Ubuntu 7.10, and when I restart, scaling_min_frequency equals scaling_max_frequency for cpufreq, naturally, the cpu is then locked at maximum speed. I can change the minimum by using cpufreq-set, but I don't want to do this after each restart...
[11:40] <lapisdecor> ikonia can you explain?
[11:40] <ikonia> NixPanther ok, good so i's 32bit
[11:40] <ikonia> lapisdecor: pop into ubuntu-offtopic and I'll explain as its not really anything to do with ubuntu
[11:40] <CppIsWeird> External USB Drive plugged into Feisty i get the following error: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) When i plug the drive into my gutsy computer, it functions perfectly. I was using the usb drive with my feisty computer last night just fine and have been using it for months. I probably pulled it out without properly unmounting it. How do i resolve this issue?
[11:41] <NixPanther> Ok hehe I can never remember which is the newer one
[11:41] <toresn> anyone else know why my directories and files in the home location suddenly appeared on my desktop?
[11:41] <ikonia> CppIsWeird is it currently mounted in fesity ?
[11:41] <blackfox> i cant find desktop effact.what need to do?
[11:41] <ikonia> NixPanther are you having sound problems in general or just through ubuntu
[11:41] <lapisdecor> already there
[11:41] <ikonia> sorry
[11:41] <ikonia> NixPanther: or just through flash
[11:42] <ikonia> lapisdecor: ok
[11:42] <CppIsWeird> ikonia, i dunno, you tell me, is it mounted after getting an error message like that?
[11:42] <ikonia> CppIsWeird have a look
[11:43] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: let me know
[11:43] <mikkael> is is possible to include minimized windows in the compiz "scale" effect ?
[11:43] <blackfox> ikonia: i cant find desktop-effects botton.
[11:43] <NixPanther> ikonia, Its mainly in Firefox, Sound Juicer works ok, but The mic also works sporadically. I play a game where I can use voice and sometimes the sound cuts out or goes really shakey in that too, and the mice doesn't work at all, but it works in skype.
[11:43] <ubuntufreak> I get this error after every automatic updates http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7649/errorpx5.png
[11:44] <ikonia> NixPanther I suspect thats not flash, its either 1.) a problem with your sound card/driver 2.) problems with sound when your machienn is under load
[11:45] <CppIsWeird> ikonia, i dont want your assistance, please stop acknowledging my query, put me on ignore.
[11:45] <ikonia> CppIsWeird do you have a problem ?
[11:46] <CppIsWeird> not anymore. :)
[11:46] <ikonia> CppIsWeird  ahh good, you've fixed it
[11:46] <ikonia> CppIsWeird what was the resolution ?
[11:46] <CppIsWeird> External USB Drive plugged into Feisty i get the following error: mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) When i plug the drive into my gutsy computer, it functions perfectly. I was using the usb drive with my feisty computer last night just fine and have been using it for months. I probably pulled it out without properly unmounting it. How do i resolve this issue?
[11:47] <Slart> ubuntufreak: looks like you have some old updates that didn't finish properly.. go into a terminal and run this "sudo apt-get install"..
[11:47] <ikonia> CppIsWeird your still having the same problem. Is the drive currently mounted in fesity ?
[11:49] <BaD-Laptop> CppIsWeird: if the drive isn't mounted, fsck it. for instance, i would
[11:49] <NixPanther> ikonia, Thanks. I can root around the forums to try and sort out the sound issues. Do you have any Idea's on the crashes? (I'm not holding out a lot of hope on that one as I have read over 100 pages of forums where others are having the same issues)
[11:49] <BaD-Laptop> CppIsWeird: if the drive isn't mounted, fsck it. for instance, i would 'sudo umount /dev/sdf1' then 'sudo fsck /dev/sdf1' then remount it.
[11:50] <BaD-Laptop> pardon my big fingers
[11:50] <MinusSeven> if I change a config file, for example pidentd, and have to reload it, is there a way without rebooting?
[11:50] <ikonia> NixPanther what sound card are you using ?
[11:50] <NixPanther> ikonia, Nforce2
[11:50] <casio1374633> hello guys~
[11:50] <blackfox> my ubuntu dont have desktop effects.what need to do?
[11:50] <ikonia> NixPanther: no idea on that one, I know a few people complained about the driver on some intels
[11:50] <ikonia> 11:49 < blackfox> my ubuntu dont have desktop effects.what need to do?
[11:50] <ikonia> ooops
[11:51] <ikonia> blackfox system --> preferences --> advanced desktop effects
[11:51] <blackfox> o.o
[11:51] <tz80211> CppIsWeird: if the usb device has a filesystem with some kind of label, remove the "/" char from its label
[11:51] <neumind> wher i can find filezilla for ubuntu?
[11:51] <ikonia> NixPanther is your machine powerful ?
[11:51] <ikonia> tz80211: apparantly its not labled
[11:51] <BaD-Laptop> MinusSeven: sudo /etc/init.d/pidentd restart
[11:51] <NixPanther> ikonia, Yeah I have 2 options for that, either find the drivers again or take it our and use the on board sound.
[11:52] <tz80211> ikonia: so blkid /dev/... showed nothing?
[11:52] <ikonia> NixPanther I think the drivers in the kernel are mature enough
[11:52] <ikonia> tz80211 he won't check.
[11:52] <MinusSeven> ok, thanks
[11:52] <ikonia> tz80211 so I can only take his word,  its mounting on /dev/disk so I assume not
[11:52] <CppIsWeird> tz80211: it doesnt have one that im aware of, and would not 7.10 have also the same issue when mounting it?
[11:52] <NixPanther> Its an AMD athalon 2200, 1024 RAM
[11:53] <casio1374633> hello , i have a question on rc2.d
[11:53] <dion> i'm havein trouble installing my web-cam with 'easycam' it finds the cam ok but has an error while installing it (error in 'make install')
[11:53] <CppIsWeird> BaD-Laptop: attempting your solution
[11:53] <tz80211> CppIsWeird: maybe 7.10 translates "/" to some other char
[11:53] <casio1374633> last time , i let some section close , that's : mv S** K**
[11:54] <CppIsWeird> how do i figure out what label it has, when i right click on its entity in the "Computer" icon, i get that its label is "10 GB Volume: Disk"
[11:54] <ikonia> tz80211 the problem initially appears that he's not using the ntfs-3g driver on fesity which stops him read/writing to ntfs, the second one appears to be volume consistancy
[11:54] <NixPanther> ikonia,  Its an AMD athalon 2200, 1024 RAM
[11:54] <BaD-Laptop> CppIsWeird: it should work. that how i do it if one of my external drives acts up. usually it's just wasn't cleanly unmounted.
[11:54] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: that has spaces in it
[11:54] <bonkers-matt> does anyone know the root password on the Dreamlinux Cd? (yes i know this is the ubuntu forum, but this is my last hope after hours of googling)
[11:55] <ikonia> bonkers-matt: sorry, not here
[11:55] <tz80211> CppIsWeird: blkid /dev/the_device
[11:55] <casio1374633> when i restarted, i find when i type startx, my screen is locked at beginning of the color
[11:55] <tz80211> CppIsWeird: where you have to change the_device into the actual device
[11:56] <a_> sadf
[11:56] <BaD-Laptop> ugh, alarm in 5 minutes
[11:57] <CppIsWeird> BaD-Laptop: cant fsck it, the drive is ntfs
[11:57] <CppIsWeird> tz80211: i got nothing from the blockid other then "/dev/sdb type="ntfs""
[11:57] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: the device label has spaces in by the looks of it
[11:57] <tz80211> CppIsWeird: uhhh, i have no experience with ntfs at all. no windows here.
[11:57] <ikonia> and your using the wrong driver
[11:57] <faraday> hello
[11:58] <CppIsWeird> well ikonia, then for the forth time, how do i determine which driver im using.
[11:58] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: for the 10th time is you asnwer my question I'd have explained there
[11:58] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: is the drive currently mounted, I believe not but can you check please.
[11:58] <CppIsWeird> its not mountied
[11:58] <CppIsWeird> (mounted
[11:59] <BaD-Laptop> CppIsWeird: sudo aptitude install ntfs-tools
[11:59] <archdruid> hello everyone
[11:59] <faraday> hello
[11:59] <ikonia> right so try mounting it manually at a sane mount point with the ntfs-3g driver - lets see if that is the actual problem
[11:59] <CppIsWeird> ...
[11:59] <blackfox> dont have advanced desktop effects
[11:59] <CppIsWeird> i aint going through all this again
[11:59] <ubuntufreak> Slart: when i try it i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45986
[11:59] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: going through what ?
[12:00] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: you have to do this so to understand the problem
[12:00] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: then it can be fixed
[12:00] <a_> asdfㅁㄴㅇㄹ
[12:00] <Slart> ubuntufreak: ok.. seems like it's cupsys that's being naughty.. try this.. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys"
[12:01] <J-_> What's a good program to use to edit video?
[12:01] <archdruid> i need some information about that gnupgp how can i export an import my greated key in another gpa installation... i tried to import sec_bak.pgp (the backupfile was named so) but gpa can´t import that damned key
[12:01] <BaD-Laptop> J-_: kinodv
[12:01] <Slart> a_: try joining an empty channel if you just want to test things.. #a_ should be empty
[12:01] <ubuntufreak> Slart: I would try that now
[12:01] <J-_> BaD-Laptop: thanks man =)
[12:02] <dion> i'm havein trouble installing my web-cam with 'easycam' it finds the cam ok but has an error while installing it (error in 'make install')
[12:02] <CppIsWeird> i mounsted it, i immidately get a message saying i cant see the contents because i dont have permissions, i try to chmod and chown the mountpoint to which i get i cannot do that to a read-only filesystem
[12:02] <ikonia> dion: make install ? are you compiling it from source
[12:02] <ubuntufreak> Slart: this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45987/
[12:02] <CppIsWeird> i cant even see the files on the drive
[12:02] <ikonia> CppIsWeird ok - so that fine, now that its mounted what drive is it using to mount
[12:03] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: one step at a time, its mounted read only, so the question is why, wrong driver or a problem
[12:03] <CppIsWeird> /dev/sdb
[12:03] <ikonia> CppIsWeird sorry, thats not a driver, use the command "mount" on its own to see what it used
[12:03] <CppIsWeird> not wrong driver because ive used the drive with the computer unmerous times
[12:03] <BaD-Laptop> ikonia: probably mounted as 'ntfs' instead of 'ntfs-3g'
[12:03] <dion> ikonia: no the app is already install'd Thats the error it givs me. I have run it in the terminal to try and figure it out myself but no go, the Entire output is in the paste
[12:04] <ikonia> BaD-Laptop exactly
[12:04] <ikonia> CppIsWeird why do you keep telling me you know itsthe right driver when you don't even know what drive its using
[12:04] <blackfox> i use Ubuntu 7.10 desktop .i cant find advanced desktop effects too
[12:04] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: do the commands I tell you and give me the answer to the questions if you want it fixed
[12:04] <Slart> ubuntufreak: ok.. we'll try removing it and installing it again then.. "sudo apt-get install --reinstall cupsys" , see if that works
[12:06] <CppIsWeird> mount doesnt say anything
[12:06] <ikonia> CppIsWeird put the output of mount in a pastebvin please.
[12:06] <ikonia> pastebin
[12:06] <Slart> blackfox: try installing compizconfig-settings-manager.. (sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager)
[12:06] <bernard__> Using Ubuntu 7.10. Is there a suitable driver for the Dell 946 All-in-One printer?
[12:06] <jkp> hmmm, so i ran the upgrade to gutsy, from feisty, but it seems to have failed
[12:06] <Slart> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:06] <ubotu> compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB
[12:06] <jkp> now it wont let me rerun to finish it
[12:06] <Alloos1> hi guys, any recommended VPS with ubuntu server?
[12:06] <CppIsWeird> what about mount doesnt say anything didnt you understand?
[12:06] <CppIsWeird> it said: ""
[12:06] <ubuntufreak> Slart: still i get an error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45988/
[12:06] <jkp> what is the correct procedure to recover from a bad upgrade?
[12:06] <CppIsWeird> nothing nada len(output) == 0
[12:06] <ikonia> CppIsWeird mount gave you no output what so ever, nothing at all
[12:07] <dion> jkp- i did the same thing, had to reinstall, but i b new to linux
[12:07] <blackfox> where can find compizconfig-settings-manager?
[12:07] <CppIsWeird> i could have babelfish translate for you
[12:07] <jkp> dion: no way :(
[12:07] <Slart> ubuntufreak: last try then.. we add a --purge "sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge cupsys"
[12:07] <NixPanther> jkp, Go to the Ubuntu site and burn an ISO of Gutsy to a CD and install it from that.
[12:07] <jkp> man, a reinstall is going to be utter pain here
[12:07] <dion> tell me about it
[12:07] <jkp> NixPanther: surely not
[12:07] <CppIsWeird> i say mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBDrive
[12:07] <CppIsWeird> it say nothing
[12:07] <Slart> blackfox: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:07] <jkp> man, i dont even have a monitor, its a headless server box
[12:08] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: no problem, hre is your senario if mount is giving zero legnth output 1.) you are unable to type / read commands 2.) your machine is broken beyond repair 3.) you are telling me a lie
[12:08] <dion> i got them to send me a disk for gutsy
[12:08] <ubuntufreak> Slart: No way, still i get the same error
[12:08] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: LISTEN to what is being said, I told you to use "mount on its own"
[12:08] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: I didn't tell you to do mount /;dev/sdba1 /media
[12:08] <jkp> why is there no way to rerun an upgrade? it showed me what failed, i removed the package
[12:08] <jkp> so it should run ok now
[12:08] <dion> for free, but it took 3weeks to australia
[12:08] <NixPanther> jkp,  yes. Its the safest way to do it. Its plastered all over the forums that you should upgrade that way :-)
[12:08] <blackfox> ok i go try
[12:08] <jkp> dion: i can download in 5 mins, thats not the problem
[12:08] <Slart> ubuntufreak: ok.. let's check some logs.. see if they will tell us someting.. "tail /var/log/syslog".. anything there about cupsys?
[12:08] <jkp> NixPanther: all the guides say its fine from feisty
[12:09] <jkp> and that is not cool, is that an "upgrade" or a reinstall
[12:09] <dion> lol, ok
[12:09] <CppIsWeird> mount returns /dev/sdb1 on /media/USBDrive type ntfs (rw)
[12:09] <jkp> you cant expect people to blow away everything every time a new release comes out, thats just undoable
[12:09] <jkp> s/you/they/
[12:09] <ikonia> CppIsWeird thank you, so you ARE using the wrong driver
[12:09] <NixPanther> jkp, Its a reinstall, so make sure you have backups.
[12:09] <jkp> man
[12:09] <jkp> thats a joke
[12:10] <ikonia> CppIsWeird you need to unmount it first of all
[12:10] <Lumpy^> hey... how can i fix this error? Fatal error: Call to undefined function pcntl_signal()  .... i need to install that somehow?
[12:10] <jkp> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be stiving to make these things easy
[12:10] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: sudo umount /mediaUSBdrive
[12:10] <jkp> and the recommendation is "blow away old system, install new"
[12:10] <ubuntufreak> Slart: Here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45989/
[12:10] <CppIsWeird> done, next
[12:10] <dion> u can upgrade usein the cd but i didnt trust it
[12:10] <NixPanther> jkp, It is, and its free, do you expect perfection? Because not even microshaft has that
[12:10] <J-_> BaD-Laptop: In kino what should I choose NTSC or PAL? It's a video screen capture.
[12:10] <ikonia> CppIsWeird sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb /media/USBDrive
[12:11] <jkp> NixPanther: i dont, but that is about as far from perfection as you can get
[12:11] <Slart> ubuntufreak: nothing there about cupsys... hang on.. I'll see if we can't make apt-get tell us a little more about what is going wrong
[12:11] <BaD-Laptop> CppIsWeird: simple soultion> 'sudo umount -v /dev/sdb1; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/USBDrive'
[12:11] <jkp> surely there is a way to just rerrun the upgrade?
[12:11] <jkp> i acn see what failed, i have removed it, it should work if i can rerun
[12:11] <BaD-Laptop> J-_: what is the screen capture from? where are you?
[12:12] <J-_> BaD-Laptop: my destop, and canada
[12:12] <BaD-Laptop> J-_: NTSC
[12:12] <J-_> k
[12:12] <ubuntufreak> Slart: ok
[12:12] <J-_> thanks
[12:13] <CppIsWeird> i get an invalid filesystem type
[12:13] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: ok thats because you don't have ntfs-3g installed on fesity
[12:13] <ikonia> CppIsWeird as Slart said, it didn't come pre-installed in fesity at the very start
[12:13] <CppIsWeird> i know i used this drive on this computer before
[12:13] <ikonia> CppIsWeird IU'm sure you did, but not to write or not with ntfs
[12:13] <jmafc> last time I tried Ubuntu I gave up because I couldn't find a way to remove OpenOffice.  I'm about to try 7.10.  I know I can install Abiword and gnumeric but I want to know if I can get rid of OO, or not install it in the first place
[12:14] <CppIsWeird> whatever, fine, my bad. how do i resolve this?
[12:14] <ikonia> !ntfs-3g | CppIsWeird
[12:14] <ubotu> CppIsWeird: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:14] <brobostigon> jmasc:: sudo apt-get autoremove openoffice
[12:15] <san|> jmafc: well goto "Applications->Add/Remove ..." and deselect the open office apps you don't want?!
[12:15] <BaD-Laptop> CppIsWeird: 'sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/UBSDisk' should do it then
[12:15] <CppIsWeird> ty bad laptop
[12:16] <J-_> BaD-Laptop: it says there's no .dv file.. =S
[12:16] <ray_> question, i just installed compiz and i cant get any desktop effects other than none
[12:16] <CppIsWeird> will it automatically mount it using that in the future?
[12:16] <ikonia> CppIsWeird: no
[12:16] <froglet> in ubuntu feisty, how can I get alt-shift-tab to do the "right thing" (reverse alt-tab window switching) with compiz under gnome? ccsm won't change that shortcut.
[12:16] <BaD-Laptop> J-_: errr, ummm, because you have to create it? ;]
[12:16] <CppIsWeird> any way to resolve that?
[12:17] <ikonia> CppIsWeird get this working first, then we can deal with that
[12:17] <jmafc> san: I recall that I tried deselecting the OO apps and it told me I couldn't do it iirc because they were essential or part of the "profile" of something like that
[12:17] <CppIsWeird> it is working
[12:17] <Slart> ubuntufreak: nope.. didn't find anything.. what happened is this... something went wrong with the update of cupsys (handles printing in linux), apt-get get's the error message and then assumes that cupsys isn't installed properly so every time you install something it will try to isntall cupsys again.. since it's still in the to-do-queue
[12:18] <tarelerulz> I have been having wireless problems. I removed the ndiswrapper that I install use synaptic ,but when I do ethtool -i it still shows 1.45 and I have downloaded 1.47.  I thought I removed the old one ,but I keep seeing it.  any one know how to tell which one I am really useing?
[12:18] <Slart> ubuntufreak: you could try removing cupsys altogether.. using the --purge switch.. and then reinstall it. but I'm not sure that would work either
[12:18] <jmafc> brobostigon:  I don't mind using apt-get autoremove but will that not create problems elsewhere?
[12:19] <brobostigon> it shuldnt as long as you remove the right thing and are sure about it.
[12:19] <jmafc> brobostigon: like if other parts of Ubuntu expect OO to be there
[12:19] <ubuntufreak> Slart: Anyway im not using any printing media with my system, would it be a problem if i remove it completely and how to do that
[12:19] <blackfox> how to do ?(sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager)
[12:19] <brobostigon> well thats the consequence
[12:19] <Slart> ubuntufreak: nope.. no problem.. to remove it you run "sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsys"
[12:20] <monkey_> ~dvd codec
[12:20] <monkey_> !dvd codec
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd codec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Taggard> !multimedia
[12:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:20] <Pici> !dvd
[12:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:20] <jmafc> brobostigon:  that doesn't sound like "software freedom" to me
[12:20] <Odd-rationale> !ccsm | blackfox
[12:20] <froglet> how can i install a screensaver for one user only? I have a .desktop file for it.
[12:20] <ubotu> blackfox: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[12:21] <brobostigon> other packages might depend on openoffice.
[12:21] <ubuntufreak> Slart: I get a warning " dpkg - warning: while removing cupsys, directory `/etc/cups/ssl' not empty so not removed."
[12:21] <Slart> ubuntufreak: that's alright.. cupsys probably installed some files there.. it's no big deal
[12:22] <soundray> brobostigon: what a stupid git that was. I admire your patience.
[12:22] <brobostigon> if ou remove openoffice ther packages may stop working
[12:22] <ubuntufreak> Slart: Thanks for your kind help :)
[12:22] <Sharpie> is there a chess game in which you can line up your tools and then start the game? (and maybe to go back a move and try another move)?
[12:22] <Slart> ubuntufreak: you're welcome
[12:22] <monkey_> helllo, there is no libdvdcss2 on synaptic, how to play dvd>
[12:22] <monkey_> ?
[12:23] <soundray> !dvd | monkey_
[12:23] <ubotu> monkey_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:23] <weyer> !canonical
[12:23] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[12:24] <weyer> hmm, anybody experience with canonical (friendly, response time, etc etc)
[12:24] <drarem> is there a way to search available #irc channels and # of users in them
[12:24] <SpeCon> can somebody help me with apache ?
[12:25] <SpeCon> since this is the only active channel lol :p
[12:25] <SpeCon> i did apt-get install apache2
[12:25] <SpeCon> and i got this error
[12:25] <SpeCon> tadpole:/etc/apache2# sudo apache2ctl start
[12:25] <SpeCon> apache2: Syntax error on line 189 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: No such file or directory
[12:25] <ata4ix> in kubuntu 7.10 desktop dvd is present sshd or its need to install?
[12:25] <drarem> SpecCon - I do   sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:25] <Sharpie> ata4ix: #kubuntu
[12:26] <ata4ix> or in ubuntu?
[12:26] <jrib> SpeCon: apache is started automatically when you start it.  Check if it is running
[12:26] <SpeCon> drarem i did this command
[12:26] <SpeCon> checking ps aux
[12:26] <Sharpie> is there a chess game in which you can line up your tools and then start the game? (and maybe to go back a move and try another move)?
[12:27] <SpeCon> i don't see httpd running
[12:27] <SpeCon> :s
[12:27] <ata4ix> what the distrib is the best kubuntu or ubuntu? or they just the same?
[12:27] <d1p> !hardy
[12:27] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:27] <SpeCon> tadpole:/etc/apache2# sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:27] <SpeCon> tadpole:/etc/apache2#
[12:27] <jrib> ata4ix: they are the same with a different set of default packages
[12:27] <KonjikiNoyami> can somebody help me with Opera browser?
[12:27] <Slart> ata4ix: kubuntu uses KDE, ubuntu uses gnome.. they are the same apart from that
[12:27] <Sharpie> ata4ix: ubuntu is GNOME, kubuntu is KDE. diff desktop environments
[12:27] <ray_> question, i just installed compiz and i cant get any desktop effects other than none
[12:27] <Sharpie> ray_: why?
[12:28] <ray_> Sharpie: i dont know i was wondering if any of you guys knew
[12:28] <Sharpie> ray_: i mean, do you get an error?
[12:28] <ray_> yes i will copy it for you
[12:29] <Sharpie> ray_: if it's a couple lines long: www.pastebin.com
[12:29] <Slart> Sharpie: tried gnu chess? or gnome chess?
[12:29] <Sharpie> Slart: that's the default chess bundled with ubuntu, you can't set up the pieces there
[12:29] <SpeCon> hello APACHE help please!
[12:29] <SpeCon> pfff
[12:30] <Slart> Sharpie: ok
[12:30] <Sharpie> SpeCon: #apache
[12:30] <soundray> SpeCon: getting help here is a privilege, not an entitlement
[12:30] <SpeCon> Sharpie sleeping in that channel
[12:30] <ray_> the error i get is: The Composite extension is not available
[12:30] <monkey_> !dvd
[12:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:30] <Sharpie> ray_: go to a terminal and type "sudo apt-get compiz compizconfig-settings-manager"
[12:30] <ray_> alright
[12:30] <toresn> hmm, some white text is being displayed as pink here... not much really, but the character 'w" has pink in it and also the frame in my 'moc (music on console'-player is pink (although it's set to be white)
[12:30] <Sharpie> ray_: it probably won't solve it but it's a start
[12:30] <Sharpie> ray_: cause you need it anyway
[12:31] <avi_me> Hi , how do I add a user that can access all the other users directories without adding him to their groups or adding o=+r to their directories  (something like a root user)  ?
[12:31] <ivs> народ куда прописать можно что бы комада при загрузке грузилась
[12:31] <jkp> well, it all *seems* to be running ok.  i rebooted, ran various apt-get invocations but it doesnt want to update anything
[12:31] <Sharpie> avi_me: just a guess, go to "users and groups" and add your user to the "root" group. haven't ever tried it though
[12:31] <soundray> avi_me: add the new user to the admin group. Then they can do everything to every directory, provided they use sudo.
[12:31] <KonjikiNoyami> I downloaded the version 9.50 beta Opera (in .deb file), double click to install it but it doesn't run stably so I remove it and installed the stable version 9.24. Now I want to execute Opera 9.24 but a message says that "another Opera has its lock file active" and didn't let me run Opera even I chose to "start Opera anyway", somebody help?
[12:31] <scguy318> !ru | ivs
[12:31] <ubotu> ivs: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:31] <avi_me> tried that  , not working (with usermod)
[12:32] <Sharpie> KonjikiNoyami: opera is crap :P
[12:32] <soundray> !who | avi_me
[12:32] <ubotu> avi_me: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:32] <ray_> i already have it
[12:32] <avi_me> soundray, i cannot use sudo , i need it for rsync
[12:32] <KonjikiNoyami> Sharpie, then which browser is good? :P
[12:32] <Sharpie> ray_: ok, now, did you install your GPU drivers?
[12:32] <Sharpie> KonjikiNoyami: firefox
[12:33] <avi_me> !tab
[12:33] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:33] <soundray> avi_me: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:33] <ray_> yes i have my fglrx installed for ati drivers
[12:33] <ata4ix> 10x
[12:33] <toresn> hmm, some white text is being displayed as pink here... not much really, but the character 'w" has pink in it and also the frame in my 'moc (music on console'-player is pink (although it's set to be white)
[12:33] <avi_me> soundray, i'm trying to rsync the home directory to another server
[12:33] <Sharpie> ray_: and did you enable your driver in the restricted drivers prog?
[12:33] <ray_> yes i did
[12:33] <KonjikiNoyami> Sharpie: FF crashes sometimes, especially when I load sites that consist Flash, is there any way to avoid this?
[12:33] <soundray> avi_me: okay, and what's the problem?
[12:33] <NixPanther> basically put you type part of their nickname and hit tab until the right name comes up
[12:34] <Slart> toresn: using a LCD screen? sub pixel rendering?
[12:34] <Sharpie> KonjikiNoyami: happens to me too, just pray it gets fixed :P
[12:34] <KonjikiNoyami> except this flash's problem, FF is perfect
[12:34] <Sharpie> !who > ray_
[12:34] <avi_me> soundray, I get permittion denied when trying to rsync folders that are not owned by the rsync user, with root i dont have the problem
[12:34] <Sharpie> ray_: and anyway, i really don't know how to help you =[
[12:34] <KonjikiNoyami> ah, ok, gotta stick with FF for now then, thanks Sharpie
[12:34] <Frogzoo> KonjikiNoyami: increase flash's cache to 10meg/infinite
[12:34] <Sharpie> avi_me: how about "sudo rsync"? lol
[12:34] <toresn> Slart: yes to both
[12:34] <Frogzoo> KonjikiNoyami: seems to help
[12:34] <KonjikiNoyami> Frogzoo: how do I do that?
[12:34] <ray_> alright no biggie
[12:34] <soundray> avi_me: so why not use sudo rsync?
[12:35] <Frogzoo> KonjikiNoyami: right click inside the flash box
[12:35] <Slart> toresn: try changing the order of the colour pixels
[12:35] <ata4ix> in ubuntu openssh-client. but for server wich distrib i must use?  openssh-server? right?
[12:35] <SpeCon> when i do apt-get remove --purge apache2  it will remove my apache2  but when i check /etc/apache2 its still there
[12:35] <Slart> toresn: system, preferences, appearance
[12:35] <Sharpie> Frogzoo: where is the flash cache stored?
[12:35] <SpeCon> also i did updatedb
[12:35] <Frogzoo> Sharpie: good question /tmp?
[12:35] <toresn> Slart: i did, thank you! everything's back to normal now
[12:35] <jrib> SpeCon: dpkg -S /etc/apache2   will tell you why
[12:35] <rarez-> Hi all, i've got a problem installing apache this is the error that is coming up on ubuntu 7.04 - Setting up apache (1.3.34-4.1) ...
[12:35] <rarez-> dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
[12:35] <rarez->  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[12:35] <rarez-> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:35] <rarez->  apache
[12:35] <rarez-> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:35] <soundray> ata4ix: yes
[12:35] <Slart> toresn: you're welcome
[12:35] <Sharpie> !paste | rarez-
[12:35] <ubotu> rarez-: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:35] <Pici> !paste | rarez-
[12:35] <ata4ix> 10x
[12:36] <ata4ix> :)
[12:36] <Sharpie> Frogzoo: hm, dunno, i'll google it up
[12:36] <ata4ix> and what best ssh/telnet glient gui for x? putty or not?
[12:36] <avi_me> soundray, if I use sudo rsync by root on machineA , with user ssh avi@machineB does it run the read the files on machineB with permitions of super user ?
[12:37] <Sharpie> Frogzoo: hm yeah i think it's in /tmp, there's a youtube video in there
[12:37] <jrib> ata4ix: why do you need a gui to ssh?  Just use 'ssh user@host' on the command line
[12:37] <ata4ix> ok
[12:37] <ata4ix> :)
[12:38] <avi_me> soundray, I'm running this command "rsync -e ssh -avz  aviel@192.168.1.249:/home ./" (logged as root ) and get permition denied , would i get it if i ran it with sudo ?
[12:39] <soundray> avi_me: if Machine A is the source of the files, and Machine B the destination, and you use the '-users' flag, rsync will preserve the file ownership.
[12:40] <soundray> avi_me: sorry, I mean '-owner'
[12:40] <rarez-> can anyone help me with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45990/ ?
[12:40] <avi_me> soundray, sec , testing...
[12:40] <soundray> avi_me: oh, you're not running rsyncd on the destination machine?
[12:40] <avi_me> soundray, no
[12:41] <omar> Guys, I need some help please
[12:41] <rarez-> Anyone look at my pastebin ?
[12:41] <soundray> avi_me: I'm not sure it's possible to preserve the permissions then.
[12:41] <Sharpie> rarez-: is the synaptic package manager open while you do it?
[12:41] <ArabEyes> omar , ask your question
[12:41] <Sharpie> rarez-: or any similar app, like the update program?
[12:41] <rarez-> Nope
[12:41] <rarez-> nothing is open
[12:41] <omar> Ubuntu refuses to read my DVD's
[12:41] <rarez-> im not even logged into X
[12:41] <soundray> avi_me: but I suspect the problem is something else. You should give the full path to ssh, ie. /usr/bin/ssh
[12:41] <Slart> Sharpie: eboard lets you setup the board as you like.. looks ok too
[12:41] <rasputnik_> rarez-, is that all it says
[12:42] <dion> could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection............ how???
[12:42] <rarez-> Yes thats all it says rasputnik_
[12:42] <jarryd> YOUR MOM KNOWS how
[12:42] <avi_me> soundray, so I go back to the initial question - i add a user on machineB and i want it to have full access to all directories , how can i do that ?
[12:42] <soundray> jarryd: don't do this please
[12:42] <jarryd> Ok i wont
[12:42] <zejosh> i
[12:42] <zejosh> Hi*
[12:43] <omar> and I downloaded the C++ compiler KDevelop, it worked but I it doesn't build my programs at all
[12:43] <zejosh> I'm currentely attempting to install Divx codec onto my linux. I'm in the directory and have the files showing to me. WHat command should I run to install it?
[12:43] <Pici> !dvd | omar
[12:43] <ubotu> omar: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:43] <soundray> avi_me: it doesn't work that way. You should run rsyncd on the destination machine, and do away with the -e option.
[12:44] <avi_me> soundray, I think the problem is before that , when i do su aviel on machineB and try to access to folder as /home/yoyo i get permition denied so the problem maybe with file permitions
[12:44] <zejosh> I'm currentely attempting to install Divx codec onto my linux. I'm in the directory and have the files showing to me. WHat command should I run to install it
[12:44] <Sharpie> Slart: downloading it, thx =o
[12:44] <soundray> avi_me: it's permissions
[12:45] <soundray> avi_me: and it won't happen when you run sudo rsync
[12:45] <rasputnik> soundray, avi_me : sudo will make no difference. it's the remote user that has the problem
[12:45]  * aldair is Away, Reason: ( '' ) | Since: ( Tuesday, November 27, 2007. 13:40:15 ) Xlack v2.1
[12:46] <rasputnik> s/it's/if it's/
[12:46] <soundray> rasputnik: it will make a difference, if the user who runs rsync hasn't got read permissions in /home/yoyo
[12:46] <soundray> rasputnik: to the extent that the remote user is a problem, running rsyncd at the destination will solve it.
[12:46] <zejosh> I'm currentely attempting to install Divx codec onto my linux. I'm in the directory and have the files showing to me. WHat command should I run to install it
[12:46] <omar> I already installed Libdvdread3, but it still does not work at all.
[12:46] <cool> zejosh,  Open a terminal window, then type (or cut and paste) the following:
[12:46] <cool> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:47] <rasputnik> soundray, why not just login as a user with sufficient privileges?
[12:47] <jrib> omar: you need to do more.  Did you read the next steps in the wiki?
[12:47] <omar> oh ok
[12:47] <avi_me> soundray,  wait trying to as sudo
[12:48] <avi_me> rasputnik, that was my original intention..
[12:48] <szonek> hi
[12:49] <soundray> rasputnik: because no "normal" user is guaranteed to have read permissions in all user directories.
[12:49] <slackern> !hi
[12:49] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:49] <szonek> is there any way to copy from console by only selecting text?
[12:49] <szonek> copying like in putty
[12:49] <jrib> szonek: yes, it does that.  Use middle click to paste
[12:49] <rasputnik> szonek: in a terminal or the actual console?
[12:50] <szonek> terminal
[12:50] <jrib> szonek: (actually it does that everywhere in X)
[12:50] <meezfoghi> !.hlp
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hlp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <rasputnik> szonek, then what jrib said
[12:50] <meezfoghi> hi all
[12:50] <szonek> jrib: ha!
[12:50] <szonek> thanks ;s
[12:50] <meezfoghi> how to open file format .hlp
[12:50] <szonek> didn't know about it
[12:50] <cool> !ask | meezfoghi,
[12:50] <avi_me> soundray, running with sudo did not work , still getting permition denied... I believe the problem is located where user aviel cannot access the folders normally..
[12:50] <ubotu> meezfoghi,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:50] <jrib> szonek: shift-insert should paste to if you want the keyboard way
[12:50] <meezfoghi> how to open file format .hlp
[12:50] <omar> jrib: yes, they told my to type a command in the terminal prompt, but it didn't work
[12:51] <jrib> omar: pastebin the error you got
[12:51] <soundray> avi_me: are you doing this for backup purposes?
[12:51] <szonek> jrib: what about normal console? (not terminal)
[12:51] <klos> anyone knows if the python interpreter is included in a fresh ubuntu installation ??
[12:51] <soundray> klos: it is.
[12:51] <cool> meezfoghi, you want to view help files ?
[12:51] <klos> thx
[12:51] <jrib> szonek: you can use the copy paste system in screen I guess
[12:51] <avi_me> soundray, just one time to duplicate the contents of the home dir
[12:52] <omar> jrib: << sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found >>
[12:52] <slackern> szonek, you can do it in consoles too if you install gpm
[12:52] <jrib> omar: what version of ubuntu?
[12:52] <omar> 7.10
[12:52] <jrib> !medibuntu | omar
[12:52] <ubotu> omar: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:52] <jrib> omar: install dvdcss from medibuntu, it will be easier
[12:53] <meezfoghi> cool:yes..how to open?
[12:54] <soundray> avi_me: give me a minute
[12:54] <meezfoghi> cool:what software i need to open file .hlp on ubuntu
[12:54] <cool> meezfoghi, i use xchm and it works well enough.
[12:54] <cool> sudo apt-get install xchm
[12:55] <cuna> i was recently trying to encrypt my linux partition, following the steps here:http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_dm_crypt_luks. after  this step: 'sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/HARDDISK' my linux started giving input outout errors and when i restarted i get error 17 at grub, if anyone can help that would be awesome
[12:55] <meezfoghi> cool:thank.....u totally cooll!!!!
[12:56] <omar> jrib: do you mean libdvdcss2 ?
[12:56] <jrib> omar: yes
[12:56] <cool> meezfoghi, :)
[12:56] <omar> jrib: It's already there too.
[12:56] <jrib> omar: what are you trying to do?
[12:56] <avi_me> soundray, though about adding uid 0 to user aviel , but I think it's not a good solution , security wise
[12:57] <omar> I'm trying to get my Ubuntu to read my DVD's
[12:57] <soundray> avi_me: definitely not. I think there is a secure way, just testing...
[12:57] <jrib> omar: what does 'apt-cache policy libdvdcss2' return?
[12:57] <Drag> how is a dual-boot with Ubuntu / Vista ? are there any known problems with vista dual-booting ?!?!
[12:57] <Drag> .-*
[12:59]  * Cabbage waves.
[12:59] <omar> jrib: << libdvdcss2:
[12:59] <omar>   Installed: 1.2.5-1
[12:59] <omar>   Candidate: 1.2.5-1
[12:59] <omar>   Version table:
[12:59] <omar>  *** 1.2.5-1 0
[12:59] <omar>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[12:59] <omar>  >>
[12:59] <jrib> omar: use pastebin next time please.  what happens when you insert a dvd?
[12:59] <meezfoghi> cool:xchm cannot open file .hlp....only for file format .chm
[13:00] <omar> It says: "Unable to mount DVD"
[13:00] <Cabbage> During install step 4 (Prepare Partitions), if I choose an ext3-formatted partition that already has data on it as "/", and Format? is unchecked... Will the data on the disk be preserved and just have the new install smooshed in beside it?
[13:00] <jrib> omar: note that medibuntu's version differs from yours
[13:00] <Cabbage> (Sounds stupid, just, uhm, double-checking.)
[13:01] <jrib> omar: install the medibuntu dvdcss2 so we get that out of the way
[13:01] <omar> jrib: ok, where do I find it?
[13:01] <omar> jrib: isn't it the same one I got?
[13:02] <jrib> omar: no
[13:02] <jrib> !medibuntu > omar (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:03] <simmerz> I'm using a dummy interface to route through to some Xen domU's behind it, but i don't know what route I'd need to add to make the eth0 interface see the dummy0 one and vice versa
[13:03] <omar> jrib: ok then when I search for it, what do I write in the search prompt?
[13:03] <jrib> omar: sudo aptitude install NAME_OF_PACKAGE
[13:05] <omar> jrib: I did that now
[13:05] <jrib> omar: now what version is installed
[13:06] <omar> jrib: midibuntu libdvdcss2
[13:06] <harryv> hello. i downloaded the alternate cd and put it on a partition, and booted from there - this box doesn't have cdrom, neither floppy - using the kernel in 'install/'. when the installer starts it will not go further if it can't find a cd-drive. shouldn't i be able to install without!?
[13:06] <cool> meezfoghi, you there?
[13:06] <soundray> avi_me: sorry, still trying...
[13:06] <cool> meezfoghi, i was away
[13:06] <jrib> omar: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2  | grep -i Installed
[13:06] <avi_me> soundray, thanks , I'm waiting ...spent a lot of time on this.. :)
[13:06] <meezfoghi> cool:yeah
[13:06] <demco> I added the "slab" menu, although how can I remove "Computer" text beside the icon for this menu, and change the icon picture?
[13:07] <cool> meezfoghi, then try this: http://board.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?t=702218
[13:07] <omar>  jrib: Installed: 1.2.5-1
[13:07] <meezfoghi> cool:ok
[13:08] <harryv> i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[13:08] <cool> meezfoghi, wait, this will not work
[13:08] <jrib> omar: did you enable the medibuntu repo?
[13:08] <harryv> the desktop-version did some fuckup, though, so i replaced it with the alternate and used the vmlinuz/initrd located in 'install/'
[13:08] <Pici> !language | harryv
[13:08] <ubotu> harryv: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:08] <omar> jrib: how do I do that?
[13:08] <harryv> ..
[13:09] <jrib> omar: read the message ubotu sent you about medibuntu
[13:09] <Xdange1> whenever i try to play a audio file Amarok just freezes
[13:09] <cool> meezfoghi, lemme find something else
[13:09] <Xdange1> i'm using Gutsy
[13:09] <meezfoghi> cool:true
[13:09] <omar> jrib: ok
[13:10] <meezfoghi> cool:thank..:)
[13:10] <Xdange1> HELP whenever i try to play a audio file Amarok just freezes. What could cause that???????
[13:10] <GMW> hi there
[13:10] <cool> meezfoghi, btw i am not sure i would be much help :p, still i will try to find something
[13:10] <Sharpie> Xdange1: are you on GNOME?
[13:10] <GMW> hi all how are u all?
[13:11] <Xdange1> Sharpie: yes
[13:11] <Sharpie> Xdange1: then don't use amarok, it's for KDE. use Exaile (it's kind of an amarok clone for gnome)
[13:11] <GMW> today is pretty good my feel so hot ..
[13:11] <Pici> Sharpie: Amarok should work fine in Gnome.
[13:11] <Xdange1> i kno Exaile
[13:11] <Sharpie> Pici: yes, should, but it doesn't for him
[13:11] <GMW> i've listen to old pop song bohemian rhapsody
[13:11] <Pici> !ot | GMW
[13:11] <ubotu> GMW: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:11] <Sharpie> Xdange1: personally though, i prefer the light-weight and simple banshee over exaile and amarok
[13:12] <Xdange1> but I have friends using Amarok on GNOME
[13:12] <Radi01> I used Amarok with gnome/worked fine.
[13:12] <Xdange1> perfectly
[13:12] <Sharpie> Xdange1: i did too, but it does have some incompatibilities (like multimedia keys)
[13:12] <meezfoghi> cool:thank..its ok..no pressure
[13:12] <Sharpie> Xdange1: so in any case, Exaile should be better for you.
[13:12] <Radi01> YOU just have to have the right codec for mp3/libxzine-1-ffmpeg.
[13:13] <Sharpie> Xdange1: and anyway, i think Exaile is much better looking than the puffy amarok :X
[13:13] <Pici> Sharpie: My multimedia keys work fine in Amarok.
[13:13] <Xdange1> Sharpie: lol ok
[13:13] <Pici> Xdange1: Did you install any of the needed codecs for mp3s?
[13:13] <Sharpie> Pici: they didn't for me, and i had to manually configure keys in xbindkeys
[13:13] <Xdange1> Pici: yes all codecs installed
[13:14] <Sharpie> Xdange1: my personal recommendation - use banshee.
[13:14] <Pici> Sharpie: Theres an amarok plugin/script that enables the use of gnome multimedia keys
[13:14] <Xdange1> Pici: well it actually worked before
[13:14] <Pici> Xdange1: And does it freeze on ayn file? or just on specific ones?
[13:15] <Xdange1> Pici : well when it freezed i was playing mp3
[13:15] <cool> meezfoghi, ok first to need to convert hlp to chm & then you than read it in the reader i made you install
[13:15] <Xdange1> Pici : i'm gonna try a another audio file format
[13:16] <meezfoghi> cool:how to convert
[13:16] <cool> meezfoghi, read this http://www.herdsoft.com/linux/themen/hlp_to_chm.html
[13:16] <soundray> avi_me: sorry, I can't find a way without enabling the root account on the destination. If you do that, and lock it again after you're done, it won't be a security risk. Shall I tell you how?
[13:17] <Pici> Xdange1: Try running amarok from a terminal as well, perhaps it will print some messages to stdout
[13:17] <Xdange1> Pici: good idea
[13:17] <avi_me> soundray, you mean enable the ssh allow_root_login ?
[13:18] <soundray> avi_me: yes. You'd have to enable a root password as well.
[13:18] <soundray> avi_me: hold on, here's another idea.
[13:18] <meezfoghi> cool:thank..so much..huhuhuu
[13:18] <soundray> avi_me: you could do it in two steps
[13:19] <cool> meezfoghi, first try & then say :p
[13:19] <avi_me> soundray, how ?
[13:20] <omar> jrib: I did what was written there, but still nothing new
[13:20] <soundray> avi_me: ' ( cd /home && sudo tar zcf - . ) | ( ssh user@machineB cat - >home.tar.gz ) '
[13:21] <kraut> moin
[13:21] <soundray> avi_me: when you've done that, you'll have home.tar.gz in the target user's home. All you do then is 'ssh user@machineB' and 'cd /home ; sudo tar zxvf ~/home.tar.gz'
[13:21] <jrib> omar: pastebin output of: sudo aptitude update && apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[13:21] <soundray> avi_me: does that make sense?
[13:22] <Pici> !paste | omar
[13:22] <ubotu> omar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:22] <Varka> what could be the reason that if i browse my recordings in mythfrontend every automatically recorded file is visible but every manually timed recording isnt?
[13:22] <meezfoghi> how play video using divocodec on linux
[13:22] <meezfoghi> how to play video using divocodec on linux
[13:22] <villind> I have a weird problem, openvpn connection does not start from nm-applet after upgrade to 7.10
[13:22] <jrib> !restricted > meezfoghi (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:22] <chew> hi, i've been using the 'unrar p -inul $1 | mplayer -' trick for a while, never on ubuntu but other systems, but now it starts playing the video, for about 3sec then it say End of file, why is that?
[13:22] <villind> it starts though if i restart dbus daemon
[13:23] <meezfoghi> !restricted
[13:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:23] <avi_me> soundray, :) thanks but the problem is I don't have enough space on machineB to copy the tar and then unpack it inside the machine, and nfs is not possible..
[13:24] <soundray> avi_me: okay, then instead of cat'ing the pipe to the file home.tar.gz, you have to unpack it on the target machine straight away. I'm sure there's a way, I just haven't found it yet...
[13:24] <pawan> how to scan for bluetooth devices
[13:25] <NIMBY> Hi again folks, I resized my linux partition to 300gb yesterday but is the linux installation meant to be on its own partition ? as all the system folders are there and I do not get the option to make a new folder etc
[13:25] <avi_me> soundray, thanks , in the meantime i enabled to root to ssh and im now rsyncing using it, when it finished i'll put back the restriction...
[13:26] <soundray> avi_me: okay, it's a bit of a hack of course
[13:26] <caligarn> does anybody have a solution to this pidgin 2.3.0 problem yet?
[13:26] <caligarn> where it doesn't load...
[13:26] <soundray> avi_me: I still think you could do it by running rsyncd (as root) on the destination.
[13:26] <Radi01> 2.3?
[13:27] <ikonia> caligarn loads fine here, can you expand
[13:27] <chew> caligarn: tried to start it frome commandline?
[13:27] <chew> from
[13:27] <caligarn> well i installed from source and then it won't load...
[13:27] <caligarn> did the whole configure, make, make install
[13:27] <ikonia> caligarn: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:27] <caligarn> here's my exact error from the command line
[13:27] <ikonia> caligarn: thats not a problem.
[13:27] <caligarn>  pidgin
[13:27] <caligarn> pidgin: symbol lookup error: pidgin: undefined symbol: purple_account_get_current_error
[13:27] <soundray> NIMBY: can you rephrase the problem?
[13:28] <omar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45994/
[13:28] <NIMBY> could you recommend a reasonable size for the system partition for linux
[13:28] <caligarn> what is the problem?
[13:28] <chew> caligarn: nothing to do with ubuntu like ikonia said, why don't you use a ubuntu-package?
[13:28] <livingdaylight> !ubuntu-me
[13:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:28] <ikonia> caligarn thays you not knowning what your doing
[13:28] <soundray> NIMBY: 12GB if you're not short of space
[13:28] <caligarn> ah hah...
[13:28] <caligarn> what am i doing wrong?
[13:28] <ikonia> caligarn: your not using the ubuntu package
[13:28] <jrib> omar: ok, now what kind of dvd is this?
[13:28] <GMW> dhcp server how to configuring?
[13:28] <caligarn> where's the ubuntu package?
[13:28] <ImP0steR> Hola
[13:28] <ikonia> caligarn: are you using gutsy
[13:28] <chew> caligarn: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[13:28] <caligarn> yup
[13:29] <caligarn> okay
[13:29] <ikonia> GMW: info on https://help.uubntu.com
[13:29] <caligarn> oh..didnt know it was in the repositories..
[13:29] <ikonia> caligarn: next time look before doing something you don't understand
[13:29] <pawan> how to browse bluetooth device
[13:29] <caligarn> okay
[13:29] <ikonia> caligarn: ubuntu has a massive repo for packages
[13:29] <GMW> ikonia can't read web site ..
[13:29] <caligarn> but they didn't have 2.2.1 in the repos...so wasnt sure.
[13:29] <teckfatt_> GMW, http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch08_:_Configuring_the_DHCP_Server
[13:29] <chew> caligarn: first do a make uninstall in the pidgin source directory
[13:29] <omar> jrib: it's normal one I burned and put some mp3's and images and videos and other stuff in it
[13:29] <NIMBY> soundray I was running out of space when it was 12gb, and its currently using 17gb, if Im using wine and copy stuff to it's drive C: where would they be stored ?
[13:29] <ikonia> GMW who can't ?
[13:29] <GMW> thxs
[13:29] <ikonia> chew excellent call
[13:29] <GMW> find it
[13:30] <omar> jrib: it's not the only one that does not work
[13:30] <Lumpy^> hey. is there  a way to configure firefox proxy server by a file? instad of going each time to tools-> etc....
[13:30] <soundray> NIMBY: in your $HOME under .wine/drive_c
[13:30] <jrib> omar: ok, dvdcss is for watching encrypted videos so it's not related.  Did you pastebin the full error?
[13:30] <livingdaylight> !ubuntu-me
[13:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:30] <caligarn> ikonia: what was i doing wrong exactly?
[13:30] <ikonia> Lumpy^: once you'ce done it once it should save your settings
[13:30] <ikonia> caligarn: too much efort to explain
[13:30] <caligarn> ikonia: jumping ahead?
[13:30] <omar> jrib: ???
[13:30] <caligarn> ikonia: okay....thanks though
[13:30] <ikonia> caligarn: no, nothing to do with jumping ahead
[13:31] <jrib> omar: the full error you get when you insert the dvd
[13:31] <NIMBY> soundray so that would be on the linux partition, if I install WoW thats going to be about 12gb, do I just make new folders in the /home dir ?
[13:31] <omar> jrib: oh ok, one minute
[13:31] <soundray> NIMBY: how are your partitions laid out on the disk?
[13:31] <meezfoghi> jrib:i have install ubuntu-restricted-extras..but cannot play divocodec
[13:31] <chew> caligarn: if you want to use your compiled version you need to install libpurple0
[13:32] <Lumpy^> im looking a way to do it via config file
[13:32] <jrib> meezfoghi: what exactly do you mean by 'divocodec'?
[13:32] <caligarn> chew: and since i didn't have hat my compiling was all for naught,...
[13:32] <caligarn> that* my compiling
[13:32] <NIMBY> soundray I have one main partition and one 8gb at the end which I was going to use for linux_swap
[13:32] <chew> caligarn: better if you leave it and install a supported ubuntu package from the official repository ;)
[13:33] <jrib> meezfoghi: maybe you should read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3wPlayer#DivoCodec
[13:33] <chew> imo
[13:33] <caligarn> chew: heheh...thanks guys
[13:33] <NIMBY> divocodec is spyware if its anything like the ones I saw on windows and the file that asks for it is probably a fake
[13:33] <meezfoghi> jrib: ok thank
[13:33] <GMW> help me for beginner shell study web site
[13:33] <jrib> meezfoghi: try mplayer though, it may be able to play it
[13:33] <ImP0steR> What is the "Ubuntu" you humons speak of?
[13:33] <soundray> NIMBY: so you have everything in the 300GB partition, with "everything" currently occupying 17GB?
[13:33] <ubuntu_>  /nick nanushka
[13:33] <jrib> !ubuntu | ImP0steR
[13:33] <ubotu> ImP0steR: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:33] <ikonia> GMW: this is ubuntu support. Use https://help.uubntu.com or http:/www.tldp.org
[13:34] <NIMBY> soundray yes thats correct
[13:34] <ImP0steR> Damn.
[13:34] <omar> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45995/
[13:34] <meezfoghi> jrib: so my video infected virus right??
[13:34] <soundray> NIMBY: so you should have 283GB free. If you install anything, it will just eat into that free space. Nothing to worry about there.
[13:35] <jrib> meezfoghi: well according to wikipedia it's probably just malware and not actually a video
[13:35] <jrib> omar: there is a bug, please search bugs.ubuntu.com and let me know if you cannot find it
[13:35] <NIMBY> soundray the problem is I want to make a folder on the drive but when I right click I get no such option so I assume that I need to make the folder in a specific place
[13:35] <avi_me> soundray, on the destination is a possibility i did not think about , it's probably what i'll try next time .. thanks alot  :)
[13:36] <pawan> hi
[13:36] <soundray> NIMBY: what would that folder be for?
[13:36] <NIMBY> the divocodec is what would give you the spyware/keylogger as long as you do not use it you will be ok, just delete the avi and get the real one
[13:36] <omar> jrib: Some people told me to do something with the fstab file, but I don't know what was that exactly
[13:36] <jrib> omar: it's in the bug's comments
[13:36] <NIMBY> soundray files that I want to share on my network
[13:37] <omar> jrib: oh ok
[13:37] <him> hello
[13:38] <caligarn> ikonia: hey man...i did sudo apt-get install pidgin...but it didn't give me 2.3....i still have 2.2.1
[13:38] <caligarn> ikonia: what am i doing wrong?
[13:38] <ikonia> caligarn: 2.2.1 is in the repo, 2.3 is not
[13:38] <ikonia> caligarn: why do you want 2.3 ?
[13:38] <caligarn> ikonia:
[13:38] <meezfoghi> jrib: ok thank so much..i redownload that video again
[13:38] <NIMBY> soundray should I maybe resize my main partition to a smaller size and create a new one in the remaining space ?
[13:38] <caligarn> ikonia: well...guess i just want to check it out...2.2.1 gives me problems
[13:38] <soundray> NIMBY: I suggest you use the terminal to create a folder 'sudo mkdir /var/local/share' and make it writable for your user with 'sudo chown $USER:$USER /var/local/share'
[13:39] <ikonia> caligarn in what way  ?
[13:39] <chew> caligarn: i'm sure they'll update it to 2.3 soon enough
[13:39] <caligarn> ikonia: when im in the irc channels it tells me im still online (as is the case with yahoo and AOL) when im actually not...
[13:39] <soundray> NIMBY: then you can use the nautilus file browser to copy stuff to /var/local/share and share the directory with samba etc.
[13:39] <ikonia> caligarn: you proably are online
[13:39] <him> hi
[13:39] <caligarn> ikonia: no i checked with my buddies...
[13:39] <pejo__-_-> ils
[13:39] <pejo__-_-> drwxr-xr-x   3 pete-joh suh04   4096 2007-09-10 18:03 tmp
[13:40] <pejo__-_-> oops
[13:40] <ikonia> caligarn: thats not really the endof the world is it
[13:40] <caligarn> ikonia: it might be just because im behind a weird firewall...cause im in asia.
[13:40] <caligarn> ikonia: no...but it can be a bit frustrating
[13:40] <ikonia> caligarn: possible, irc waits for discconnect
[13:40] <caligarn> ikonia: especially if im asking somboedy questions on irc and then i don't get a response and i dont know why
[13:40] <caligarn> ikonia: im patient though...
[13:41] <soundray> !test
[13:41] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:41] <soundray> Dang, I'm offline
[13:41] <soundray> SCNR :)
[13:42]  * aldair is back ( Away 56 mins 32 secs )
[13:42] <soundray> !away | aldair
[13:42] <ubotu> aldair: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[13:43] <caligarn> ikonia: i guess ill just wait for the 2.3 to get on the repos.
[13:43] <caligarn> thanks again
[13:43] <caligarn> ciao
[13:44] <nicolah> how do I configure OSS ? (recording volume etc)
[13:44] <gordonjcp> lol OSS
[13:44] <gordonjcp> does anyone still use thaT?
[13:44] <gordonjcp> nicolah: sorry
[13:44] <nicolah> just old hardware
[13:45] <gordonjcp> nicolah: more seriously, is there a good reason why you're using OSS, and not something that's been supported in the last decade?
[13:45] <`Peter> I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu-xen-server on gutsy but it doesn't regenerate /boot/config-2.6.22-14-xen. Is there a way to do this?
[13:45] <nicolah> ok, I'll try alsa then
[13:45] <gordonjcp> OSS is dead and has been dead for ten years
[13:45] <nicolah> uhm ok
[13:45] <gordonjcp> really seriously ALSA is the way to go
[13:45] <soundray> gordonjcp: it just hasn't stopped moving yet
[13:45] <gordonjcp> unless you're using something like original Quake
[13:46] <gordonjcp> soundray: still smells just as bad as ever though
[13:47] <soundray> gordonjcp: in true dinosaur fashion ;)
[13:48] <him_> I have a question about openoffice 2.3 on Ubuntu 7.10...
[13:50] <soundray> him_: go on then
[13:50] <NIMBY> soundray thanks for your help :)
[13:50] <him_> okay..
[13:50] <soundray> NIMBY: did it help, though?
[13:51] <NIMBY> soundray sort-of :) but I think I would be happier if I resize the partition and then make a new one for my shared files
[13:52] <nicolah> should I use "alsamixer" or "sudo alsamixer" ?
[13:52] <Pici> nicolah: just alsamixer
[13:52] <nicolah> k
[13:53] <nicolah> is it normal that after raising up a volume, closing and reopening alsamixer it's raised down ?
[13:53] <harryv> hello. i downloaded the alternate cd and put it on a partition, and booted from there - this box doesn't have cdrom, neither floppy - using the kernel in 'install/'. when the installer starts it will not go further if it can't find a cd-drive. shouldn't i be able to install without!? i followed the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[13:53] <ikonia> nicolah: make sure you save it, not close it
[13:53] <soundray> NIMBY: well, you've got plenty of space for it. While you're at it, consider creating a separate /home as well. I suggest you still mount the new partition to /var/local/share. BTW, your swap is too big.
[13:53] <ikonia> harryv: yes, you should be able to
[13:53] <ikonia> harryv: thats a reasonably advanced technique
[13:53] <him_> thank you.  When I load in documents that I typed in word (Office XP) every works perfectly except when I try to modify the documents.  If I type after a note (the number for the footnote) the text remains small
[13:53] <tomcat-tc> hi
[13:53] <tomcat-tc> can anyone here help with a small problem?
[13:54] <tomcat-tc> i am unable to install cursor themes
[13:54] <tomcat-tc> i installed gcursor but when i click install cursor nothing happens
[13:54] <nicolah> ikonia: how do I save before quitting ?
[13:54] <NIMBY> soundray, I have not yet set the swap up, Im a linux noob and have been brainwashed by ms into needing huge amounts of swap space, I have 4gb ram so what would be the optimum swap size ?
[13:54] <ikonia> nicolah: it normally says on start up, it's crtl+x or something like that
[13:55] <soundray> NIMBY: 2GB would be plenty
[13:55] <ikonia> NIMBY 4gb ram
[13:55] <tomcat-tc> also i copied the theme in .icons but still no cursor
[13:55] <harryv> ikonia: well. it seems easy enough .. but, after i've choosen language it requires me to find and mount a cd drive ..
[13:55] <ikonia> NIMBY:if you want to suspect 4gb
[13:55] <ikonia> harryv: yes, thats correct.
[13:55] <harryv> ikonia: but the box do not have a cd drive ..
[13:55] <ikonia> harryv: so you can't mount one, you need to mount one remotly
[13:55] <NIMBY> ikonia suspect 4gb of what ?
[13:56] <nicolah> ikonia: should I press ctrl+x after editing stuff in alsamixer ?
[13:56] <ikonia> NIMBY suspend sorry
[13:56] <ubuntu_> italiabni ci siete?
[13:56] <soundray> NIMBY: ikonia is right -- if you want to be able to suspeND, you need a little more swap than you have in RAM.
[13:56] <ikonia> nicolah it may not be crtl+x
[13:56] <nicolah> ok
[13:56] <NIMBY> lol
[13:56] <omar> jrib: I did not find it
[13:56] <jrib> omar: ok, let me see
[13:57] <omar> jrib: Thanx
[13:57] <NIMBY> soundray I usually put my pc to sleep rather than shutting down, so does that affect how much swap space ?
[13:57] <ikonia> NIMBY: thats suspend
[13:57] <soundray> him_: little things like that can be annoying in OOo. I work around this issue by modifying the text after the footnote link
[13:58] <jfbramson> how do I register my nickname
[13:58] <soundray> NIMBY: yes. You need RAM times one plus a bit
[13:58] <ikonia> jfbramson: join #freenode for irc support
[13:58] <jfbramson> thanks ikonia
[13:58] <harryv> ikonia: mount remotly? i've got the alternate cd on /dev/sda2 .. but i can't bypass the cd-detection part.
[13:58] <jfbramson> is that a website
[13:58] <NIMBY> soundray so 8gb isnt that much too big then ?
[13:59] <ikonia> harryv how have you got a cdrom on /dev/sda without having a cdrom drive ?
[13:59] <ikonia> jfbramson: no a channel on irc
[13:59] <ikonia> jfbramson: typ2 "/join #freenode"
[13:59] <soundray> him_: for example if I have 'see footnote^123 and so on', I would click between the a and the n, to make the modification.
[13:59] <ikonia> jfbramson: type "/join #freenode"
[13:59] <BockBilbo> hello... im trying to remove the elements found on my lost+found folder of an ext3 partition, and when deleting them as root.. i get:  Operation not permitted ... anyone knows how to remove them?
[13:59] <w2_> hi
[13:59] <ciacon> hi all - I have some questions towards the restricted drivers - not about compiz or beryl though.... who can give me some advice??
[13:59] <harryv> ikonia: as i said, i simply followed this guide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux - and moved the content of the alternate cd to that partition. so i'm booting up from that one.
[13:59] <NIMBY> soundray so resize that to 6gb ?
[13:59] <soundray> NIMBY: no. Maybe it's best to leave it as it is, since you're not short of space.
[14:00] <ikonia> harryv you'll need to mount it as a loop back drive then
[14:00] <MenZa> ciacon, state your question.
[14:00] <NIMBY> soundray I would have put linux on the 500gb but vista is hogging that until I can give it the elbow :)
[14:00] <ImP0steR> What's a friendly linux os for starters?
[14:01] <NIMBY> soundray I have yet to set the swap up, can you help me do that ?
[14:01] <ikonia> ImP0steR: ubuntu
[14:01] <ImP0steR> The regular one from the main site?
[14:01] <ikonia> NIMBY: if you have installed ubuntu you must have setup swap
[14:01] <ikonia> ImP0steR: yes
[14:01]  * aldair is Away, Reason: ( abs ) | Since: ( Tuesday, November 27, 2007. 13:40:15 ) Xlack v2.1
[14:01] <NIMBY> ikonia I chose not to at the time because I only had 12gb free on the vista drive, I have since moved linux to a 300gb
[14:01] <jrib> omar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/106910
[14:01] <daning> Does ubuntu 7.10 defaultly support boardcom network card?
[14:02] <ciacon> MenZa: I have in the last few days had a bit of a hectic time with this box... anyways - before my probs started (which are not really related) I used to game tremulous (fps-game) @ 90fps... now it seems limited to 60... I thought that is a bit odd and is in fact limited in the game.. the interesting thing is, that glxgears gives me the exact same result... where can that problem hang??
[14:02] <ImP0steR> I see, thanks
[14:02] <ikonia> NIMBY I didn't think you could continue without swap in the installer
[14:02] <soundray> NIMBY: it should be set up, if you installed in the usual way.
[14:02] <him_> Hmmm,  since I am writing a book length manuscript that contains no-less than 150 notes per chapter that would be a killer.
[14:02] <soundray> him_: what would be a killer?
[14:02] <daning> ImP0steR:  ubuntu
[14:03] <harryv> ikonia: well. kinda tried to, but doing 'mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/installer -t ext3 -o loop' i get: "mount: Mounting /dev/sda2 on /mnt/installer/ failed: No such device". kinda rare,,
[14:03] <soundray> NIMBY: do a 'grep swap /etc/fstab', if that spits out a line, it's all set up.
[14:03] <ikonia> harryv: not really very rare, you can't mount a loop back file system like that
[14:03] <NIMBY> soundray I chose no swap during setup and because I moved it from the smaller partition there is no swap config'd yet, but when I was resizing (using gparted) I made the 8gb and formatted as linux_swap
[14:03] <soundray> him_: btw, for that kind of project, I would prefer LaTeX any time.
[14:04] <daning> broadcom network card.
[14:04] <ikonia> NIMBY: then swap is setup
[14:04] <harryv> ikonia: it does the same tryin to mount normalle. mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/installer -t ext3.
[14:04] <harryv> *normally
[14:04] <ciacon> MenZa: any clue??
[14:04] <oj> hey how do i list the mounted drives in cli ?
[14:04] <ikonia> harryv: thats not the right command
[14:04] <ikonia> oj: mount
[14:04] <harryv> oj: 'mount'
[14:04] <harryv> ikonia: what would the right command be? reading from the manual, it is..
[14:04] <soundray> NIMBY: okay. Have you got the device name of the swap partition? Find out with sudo fdisk -l
[14:04] <daning> Does ubuntu 7.10 have the drive for broadcom network card default.
[14:04] <ikonia> harryv: to mount it normally mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/installer
[14:05] <MenZa> ciacon, none whatsoever, sorry. It was more, you might have a better chance of getting an answer if you state your question :)
[14:05] <harryv> ikonia: doesn't matter - same error.
[14:05] <ikonia> harryv: ls -la /dev/sda2
[14:05] <NIMBY> soundray /dev/sdb2
[14:05] <harryv> brw-rw----   1 root    rooot
[14:06] <ikonia> harryv: so when you do "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/install" you get exactly what error
[14:06] <uKKeMan> anyone here is a little bit familiar with amule? cause after forwarding every port i got a high id but kad is firewalled... the website tells me something about "preventing the port from being remapped" what does that mean and how can i achieve this with iptables?
[14:06] <ciacon> MenZa: basicly I was only wondering where that limit all of a sudden comes from... same box - same hardware... X6800EE @ 2,93ghz, 2gb ram, radeon x850xt
[14:06] <gallifante> hi, i have a little problem, i use ubuntu gutsy with spanish language, when i open a terminal some characteres like accent vocals or the ñ don't visualize correctly, why? :S
[14:06] <him_> Perhaps it is just my ignorance.. but I can only seem to get the text to look correct when i manually change the font...   My project is a Japanese History work.  I was surprised that the Japanese worked perfectly.
[14:06] <soundray> NIMBY: to make it usable, type 'sudo mkswap /dev/sdb2'. To add it automatically at boot, edit /etc/fstab and add a line like "/dev/sda2       none            swap    sw              0       0"
[14:06] <harryv> ikonia: mount: Mounting /dev/sda2 on /mnt/installer failed: Invalid argument
[14:06] <ikonia> harryv: and exactly what command did you use
[14:07] <harryv> ikonia: 'mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/installer'
[14:07] <soundray> NIMBY: alternatively, use blkid to find out the UUID of your swap and use that instead of /dev/sdb2 in fstab (more robust)
[14:07] <ikonia> harryv: your using ubuntu ?
[14:07] <harryv> yeah.
[14:07] <soundray> NIMBY: I meant, instead of /dev/sda2
[14:07] <harryv> or, well,
[14:07] <demco> does anyone have a copy of the most recent screenlets "Orb" control?  The screenlets.org server has been down for days
[14:08] <ikonia> harryv: what do you mean "or well"
[14:08] <harryv> ikonia: booting up from vmlinuz / initrd located in install/ at /dev/sda2, which is, in turn, populated by the content of the alternate cd.
[14:08]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:08] <zgmf-x20a> hey anyone on here using terminatorX?  installed it via synaptic, but where is it?  i.e, icon to launch??
[14:08] <NIMBY> soundray so I get --- /dev/sdb2: TYPE="swap" UUID="79871966-c9d7-4d8c-9b6f-24819932096e"
[14:08]  * soundray holds up his empty coffee mug
[14:08] <harryv> ikonia: i tried to do the same, using the desktop version. it got kinda stuck. starting up a X session, with nothin but a mouse pointer, and everything - including the terminal - being incredible slow. so tried this way round.
[14:08] <CyberMad> how to force my ubuntu to use 1024x768 resolution? because on windows xp the computer can use that screen resolution
[14:09] <soundray> NIMBY: is that after you ran mkswap?
[14:09] <soundray> !fixres | cybermad
[14:09] <ubotu> cybermad: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:09] <NIMBY> soundray yes I ran mkswap 1st
[14:09] <ikonia> harryv: I'll be honest, what your saying doesn't make sense
[14:09] <CyberMad> thanks
[14:09] <zgmf-x20a> #terminatorx
[14:10] <AuraithX> Hello - Does anyone know how to reduce the file of a ISO file (turn into cue?) on ubuntu
[14:10] <soundray> NIMBY: to make it usable, type 'sudo mkswap /dev/sdb2'. "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add "UUID=79871966-c9d7-4d8c-9b6f-24819932096e      none            swap    sw              0       0"
[14:10] <AuraithX> *reduce the size
[14:10] <harryv> ikonia: ok. i did exactly what this guide says to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux - using the Alternate iso instead of the Desktop-iso, and booting up using vmlinuz/initrd located in the 'install' directory of the alternate cd.
[14:10] <ikonia> harryv the fact that mount isn't working suggests something else is very wwrong
[14:11] <unique311> any reason why flash doesn't pick up my built in camera while running linux.
[14:11] <unique311> but in windows it does
[14:11] <soundray> NIMBY: oops, what have I done
[14:11] <unique311> is it a flash for linux limitation
[14:11] <soundray> NIMBY: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add "UUID=79871966-c9d7-4d8c-9b6f-24819932096e      none            swap    sw              0       0"
[14:11] <frosgate> Hi everyone.  I'm running into an interesting problem.  I made a few changes to fstab this morning, and it didn't do what I wanted it to do.  So I reverted to a backup of the original fstab.  Now, when I boot up my computer, fsck is erroring.  It is reporting that it is unable to check /dev/sda1 because it is already mounted (an error 8), and dropping me to a root shell.  What do I need to do to fix this?
[14:11] <harryv> supposedly .. oh well, i'll revamp my debian-installation .. that'd at least install. :/
[14:12] <zombie_monkey> when I switch to tty1 I get http://pastebin.com/m1253ca37 - that's normal, I guess, but what can I do about it?
[14:12] <NIMBY> soundray is it correct that the fstab comes up blank ?
[14:12] <soundray> NIMBY: no
[14:13] <gordonjcp> NIMBY: a blank fstab is generally not a good thing
[14:13] <NIMBY> soundray is ok now I was in the wrong dir
[14:13] <soundray> NIMBY: make sure you give the full path '/etc/fstab'
[14:13] <AuraithX> anyone know how to reduce the filesize of a iso file on ubuntu? :(
[14:13] <soundray> AuraithX: gzip it
[14:13] <him_> thankyou
[14:13] <hellhouse> hey guys, do you know what am I going to do now?
[14:13] <AuraithX> soundray: then my psp wont be able to read ity
[14:13] <hellhouse> I am going to DANCE
[14:14] <scottpc> Good morning everyone!
[14:14]  * hellhouse dances :D-/<
[14:14]  * hellhouse dances :D-|<
[14:14]  * hellhouse dances :D-\<
[14:14] <ikonia> !offtopic | hellhouse#
[14:14] <ubotu> hellhouse#: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:14] <ikonia> !offtopic | hellhouse
[14:14] <ubotu> hellhouse: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:14] <hellhouse> :(
[14:14] <dwxreaper> what is the url where i can grab a single file from an ubuntu package
[14:15] <SoulChild> what is env-update for and what does source /etc/profile do ?
[14:15] <ikonia> SoulChild: it sources environment cariables for the profile file
[14:15] <soundray> SoulChild: ask one question at a time to improve response
[14:15] <ikonia> SoulChild: that should read variables
[14:15] <dwmyers> Soulchild: source runs commands in a file as if you typed them in.
[14:16] <ikonia> dwmyers: no it doesn';t
[14:16] <scottpc> Does anyone here have any experience with printing through OpenOffice?  I have a wierd one...  My HP OfficeJet 6210 prints just fine, but for some reason - only with OpenOffice, my Brother Fax4100 doesn't print.  It prints from Firefox and everything else just fine - and I've tried the google search results for resolving the problem - but still no resolution.
[14:16] <ikonia> scottpc brother printers lack open printing support
[14:16] <dwmyers> Ikonia: odd, because it sure does in the shells I've run. source is equivalent to #include in the 'c' language.
[14:16] <dwxreaper> what is the url where i can grab a single file from an ubuntu package
[14:16] <scottpc> I got the driver from the Brother website...
[14:17] <NIMBY> soundray it has # Entry for /dev/sdb2 :
[14:17] <NIMBY> UUID=72B424DDB424A597 /media/sdb2 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 1 there at the moment shoudl I just add that line you link below that ?
[14:17] <ikonia> dwmyers including a file is not the running of commands
[14:17] <dwxreaper> i'm looking for the README that came with a package, but i can't find it. searching for "fine / -name README" or find / -name packagename
[14:17] <soundray> NIMBY: no, something is wrong
[14:17] <scottpc> So I might as well just write my documents in HTML then, right?  lol
[14:17] <ikonia> scottpc errr what ?
[14:18] <soundray> NIMBY: can you run 'sudo fdisk -l', copy the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give me the URL pls
[14:18] <dwmyers> Ikonia: I jkust tested. You're wrong. Make a file with the single line 'echo "Hello!' and source it.
[14:18] <soundray> NIMBY: paste the fstab as well while you're at it ;)
[14:18] <ikonia> dwmyers: yes of course as thats sourcing a command
[14:18] <SoulChild> how do i change the wirless network with iwconfig ,.... ??? after typing iwconfig eth0 essid NetworkName ,.... and than calling dhclient eth0 i don't get a IP from DHC-Server,... macbe because it uses net-mask 255.255.255.255 instead of 255.255.255.0 ????
[14:18] <scottpc> lol - ikonia - I'm trying to do envelopes on my laser printer because if the inkjet gets wet, it'll smudge in transit.
[14:18] <ikonia> dwmyers: but source is not the "running of command" its the sourcing of a files contents be it environment variables, commands etc etc
[14:19] <scottpc> So if openoffice won't print to my laser printer, I might as well just write letters using HTML - something my laser can print...
[14:19] <scottpc> lol
[14:19] <ikonia> scottpc why not tell open office to use the laser?
[14:19] <soundray> scottpc: are you on Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:19] <scottpc> ikonia - great idea - um... how?
[14:19] <scottpc> I'm using 7.10 - but I'm a 20 year windows convert
[14:19] <scottpc> noob
[14:20] <ikonia> scottpc: if you have the printer setup in cups y ou should just be able to select it, I'm no OO guru though
[14:20] <scottpc> so far very few problems, I must admit!
[14:20] <scottpc> I do select it - the printer warms up, and does nothing.
[14:20] <scottpc> only in OO
[14:20] <dwmyers> Ikonia: you're just contradicting yourself. If you source a command in a file, you will run the da..rned command.
[14:21] <scottpc> been reading about this issue - tried to add "kprinter" to line 83 - still no change
[14:21] <ikonia> dwmyers correct, but source is not the "running of commands"
[14:21] <NIMBY> soundray Im getting please enable javascript error
[14:21] <soundray> scottpc: I've seen this kind of behaviour in older versions. Let me try and remember what I did...
[14:21] <soundray> NIMBY: perhaps pastebin.com will work?
[14:21] <uKKeMan> quick question i now wanna play with iptables
[14:21] <uKKeMan> so what is the command to delete all rules?!
[14:22] <_nix_> uKKeMan: go ahead..
[14:22] <dwmyers> Ikonia: play semantic games with someone else, becuase all you're doing right now is misquoting me and claiming you'
[14:22] <jrib> !iptables > ukkeman (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:22] <scottpc> thank you soundray
[14:22] <jrib> uKKeMan: iptables -F
[14:22] <_nix_> uKKeMan: iptables -F should do
[14:22] <scottpc> I know it's an OO issue - that's the killer
[14:22] <ikonia> dwmyers sorry, that wasn't my intention, I just wanted to makes the districntion that source isn't actually running commands, its sourcing the contents of a file into your current working shell
[14:22] <FireH4zrd> I am running ubuntu 7.10 as a desktop and connecting to a windows xp pro machine for shared files. When I try to connect to windows xp share it takes a really long time to open the folder or browse. Does anyone know how to make it faster?
[14:22] <uKKeMan> thank you (both of you ;) )
[14:23] <soundray> scottpc: in the Print dialog, click on Properties, go to the Device tab and change the Postscript level. Worked for me, ymmv.
[14:23] <scottpc> OO uses its own print settings - but the typical "fix" doesn't fix mine...
[14:23] <NIMBY> soundray http://pastebin.com/mb9c8daa is that what you want ?
[14:23] <scottpc> fire - c:\del windows
[14:23] <scottpc> don't do it
[14:23] <_nix_> uKKeMan: play's over?
[14:23] <scottpc> lol
[14:23] <scottpc> sorry
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> hey my laptop just totally locked up a couple of times in a row there forcing me to have to do alt+sysrq r,e,i,s,u,b in order to restart it.... seems to be while I was playing an rem album in firstly banshee then again in amarok
[14:23] <ciacon> can somone help me with some Q's I have towarsd XOrg, FPS-Games and ATI??
[14:23] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | ciacon
[14:23] <ubotu> ciacon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:23] <scottpc> soundray - brb
[14:24] <_nix_> not me.. thanks
[14:24] <uKKeMan> _nix: what you mean, dont get it ;) ?!
[14:24] <NIMBY> soundray http://pastebin.com/d7650dfdc
[14:24] <_nix_> uKKeMan: I thought we about to set up some nasty rules there..
[14:24] <NIMBY> brb
[14:24] <FireH4zrd> Is there no way to make it load the folders faster?
[14:24] <dwmyers> Ok, let me ask the Q I wanted to ask: usb + firewire cards. Do they "just work" in Ubuntu these days, or do you have to 'fiddle' with them?
[14:24] <_nix_> uKKeMan: nevermind :D
[14:24] <uKKeMan> i_nix: i just try to prevent remapping
[14:25] <ciacon> I used to run Tremulous on this box @ 90fps min - low I seem to be locked down to 60fps (also tested on glxgears -info)... where does this limit come from?
[14:25] <soundray> NIMBY: please pastebin blkid output as well
[14:25] <uKKeMan> _nix_: of a udp port so that amule isnt firewalled in kad anymore. i found some commaNDS for iptables, but dont know what they do and if i get disconnect in anyway, so just wanted to make shure that i easily can delete them, if something went terribly wrong
[14:26] <John_R> uKKeMan: check out lokkit
[14:26] <_nix_> uKKeMan: oh.. k, nice.. I was getting sick of the gui-frontends to iptables.
[14:26] <NIMBY> soundray http://pastebin.com/d4825220
[14:27] <FireH4zrd> I am running ubuntu 7.10 as a desktop and connecting to a windows xp pro machine for shared files. When I try to connect to windows xp share it takes a really long time to open the folder or browse. Does anyone know how to make it faster?
[14:27] <uKKeMan> i tried it first with firestarter but i hate to change the settings everytime i change my internet connection from eth0 to eth1
[14:28] <ciacon> uKKeMan: my firestarter kept on crashing
[14:29] <_nix_> uKKeMan: there's an options to give you mac address as source in iptables
[14:29] <scottpc> still nothing, soundray
[14:29] <uKKeMan> but i got two mac adresses :)
[14:29] <Silmeria> does ndiswrapper only work with XP drivers?
[14:29] <scottpc> for openoffice, I don't mind printing to PDF first - usually - but I need to do envelopes!
[14:30] <uKKeMan> cant try it now cat is sitting on me/laptop and is purring
[14:30] <karsten_> ist hier ein deutscher?
[14:30] <uKKeMan> jopp
[14:30] <Sharpie> !english | karsten_
[14:30] <ubotu> karsten_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:30] <NIMBY> LOL uKKeMan , you big softy :)
[14:31] <_nix_> uKKeMan: the one with ur internet connection
[14:31] <uKKeMan> otherwise karsten try: #ubuntu-de
[14:31] <xeer> hi everyone
[14:31] <Begasus> if I change/re-initialise a partition prior to the boot partition for ubuntu will I be able to boot it afterwards?
[14:31] <karsten_> komst der deutsche in ubuntu_de
[14:31] <uKKeMan> _nix_ thats the problem _nix_ its changing... sometimes i surf through wlan othertime i surf through lan cable
[14:31] <Sharpie> !english | karsten_
[14:31] <ubotu> karsten_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:31] <Pici> !de | karsten_
[14:31] <ubotu> karsten_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:32] <xeer> so i have my windows and ubunut on two different disks. which happen to be raptors. i made 5gb for each OS partition, the rest i intend to use as a software raid1 (mirror). how can i keep the raid integrity inside of windows?
[14:32] <_nix_> uKKeMan: no problem.. you can set up a script in the respective /etc/network/if-up.. places.
[14:32] <FireH4zrd> :(
[14:33] <tawooh> what is the best program with which to decompress .rar files??
[14:33] <wk> ?
[14:33] <uKKeMan> tawooh: unrar
[14:33] <Sharpie> tawooh: unrar
[14:33] <wk> anybody there?
[14:33] <tawooh> thankee
[14:33] <bazhang> yes
[14:33] <_nix_> tawooh: unrar x <archive>
[14:33] <_nix_> ;-)
[14:33] <uKKeMan> _nix_: next problem is both of them are connected but just one has inet connection: so when im @home i got wlan and lan connction but surf though lan when im at work i got wlan and lan and surf through lan
[14:34] <uKKeMan> _nix_: thats wrong isnt it "urnar  r <file>"
[14:34] <uKKeMan> damn
[14:34] <_nix_> undauntedspirit: decompress
[14:34] <uKKeMan> "urnar e <file>"
[14:34] <_nix_> undauntedspirit: extract whatever
[14:34] <soundray> NIMBY: sorry, I'll be with you in a few minutes
[14:34] <undauntedspirit> _nix_: Eh??
[14:34] <ankur> is there any software for ubuntu that can help me to protect my desktop item ?
[14:34] <xeer> anyone know how i can do it?
[14:35] <_nix_> oh boy.. sorry wrong nick completion
[14:35] <undauntedspirit> _nix_: lol
[14:35] <syyh> desktop item? what do you mean?
[14:35] <NIMBY> soundray thanks
[14:35] <bazhang> ankur: what do you mean?
[14:35] <_nix_> :)
[14:35] <jburd> Can one have multiple Software Sources profiles?  When I'm using my laptop and I'm in my corporate network, I'd like to use the apt-cache repository instead of using the Network connection.
[14:36] <jburd> s/Network/Internet/
[14:36] <ankur> hello anyone alive here?
[14:36] <_nix_> you kidding?
[14:36] <bazhang> yes ankur
[14:36] <Pici> ankur: Yes, can you clarify your question.
[14:36] <uKKeMan> cant move cats head on my wrist
[14:36] <FireH4zrd> Does anyone know how to fix slow browsing for network shares?
[14:37] <_nix_> uKKeMan: pat the cat for me.. I love pets
[14:37] <jburd> Or if I can add mirrors to the Ubuntu mirrors list?
[14:37] <jburd> I'd like to add the local cache as a mirror.
[14:37] <wk> how can i  download  on the inter-net
[14:37] <uKKeMan> damn she fell asleep
[14:37] <wk> use which tool?
[14:37] <uKKeMan> lovely little whiskas cat
[14:37] <Pici> jburd: The local cache only holds file that you have already downloaded.  Its not really a mirror.
[14:37] <Pici> wk: wget?
[14:37] <jburd> Pici: The local network mirror of cached Ubuntu packages.
[14:38] <_nix_> uKKeMan: ain't that gonna scratch ur notebook? anyways.. you might want to set up device independant rules there
[14:38] <jburd> Pici: I'd like to switch to the local mirror when I'm in the network.
[14:38] <Pici> jburd: Oh... I thought you meant the apt cache in /var/cache/apt/
[14:38] <uKKeMan> _nix_: can you have a look @: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/Firewall#IPTables_Configuration and tell me what the iptable command is doing?
[14:38] <_nix_> uKKeMan: just a min..
[14:39] <jburd> Pici: We already have an apt-cacher cached repository on our storage server.
[14:39] <jburd> Pici: So multiple computers simply point to that computer for their packages and pull them locally.
[14:39] <uKKeMan> _Nix_ i think i dont need a firewall cause the only thing i got i amule and a local webserver as services .. so i dont think i need a firewall
[14:39] <xcasex> anyone played with ubuntu on a acer aspire m5100?
[14:39] <ikonia> xcasex just ask the question
[14:40] <_nix_> uKKeMan: In an ideal world.. nobody would need nothing.. ;-)
[14:40] <xcasex> ikonia: heh. that was the question :)
[14:40] <jburd> Hmm.   /usr/share/update-manager/mirrors.cfg seems like a good place to add mine eh?
[14:40] <ikonia> xcasex do you ahve a problem with it ?
[14:40] <tubular> can anyone help me with a networking issue? DNS is broken, but all other networking works. It only happens after I have both wireless and wired up at the same time, and I have to bring the wired interface down and up again to fix it
[14:40] <xcasex> ikonia: sort of but not yet a problem.
[14:41] <ikonia> tubular I suspect your routing the dns servers is getting messed up with oth interfaces up
[14:41] <xcasex> its just that the sky2 module works, everything works, but it isnt getting a dhcp lease from the servers
[14:41] <_nix_> uKKeMan: the first three rules allow tcp/udp traffic from outside to destination-ports (on your computer) xx, xx+3, and yy
[14:41] <uKKeMan> yeah i got them
[14:41] <ikonia> xcasex if the network is up and working, then it must be the dhcp server. Try assinging it a static address to test
[14:41] <tubular> ikonia The problem continues after one of them is brought down though
[14:42] <_nix_> uKKeMan: the established related traffic allows incoming traffic that were initiated by you..
[14:42] <Agiofws> got debian working with an ubuntu kernel still though it does not see the apls so its not the config file ... it must be the  tainted sources it was compiled from ...  how do i find a tainted ubuntu 7.10 kernel   ?
[14:42] <ikonia> tubular yes, your routing has probably been altered
[14:42] <ikonia> Agiofws that conifgurtion is not supported
[14:42] <xcasex> ikonia: tried everything already.
[14:42] <xcasex> which is why i asked about the hw, and not the network :)
[14:42] <_nix_> uKKeMan: the next iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT sets the default policy for the OUTPUT chain to ACCEPT.
[14:42] <ikonia> xcasex and what was the results of a static ip
[14:42] <tubular> ikonis how do i fix that without interrupting the connection? I have to SSH to this computer, os bringing the interfacedown isn't an option.
[14:42] <soundray> NIMBY: here's what I think it should look like: http://pastebin.com/d7ccd26f6
[14:42] <ikonia> xcasex: the hardware is not relevant as its done over a unified tcp statck
[14:43] <Lumpy^> hey. is there  a way to configure firefox proxy server by a file? instad of going each time to tools-> etc....can i edit&change prefs.js and apply changes without restarting the broswer
[14:43] <Agiofws> ikonia,  it is and it see my touchpad  ...as  debian does not
[14:43] <xcasex> ikonia: no worky since i have this subnet locked down on mac adresses assigned via dhcp lease.
[14:43] <ikonia> tubular look at your routing pad
[14:43] <ikonia> Agiofws that config is not supported, your notusing ubuntu
[14:43] <_nix_> uKKeMan: everyting beyond that set up NAT or specifically Destination-Network-Address-Translation
[14:43] <ikonia> xcasex put it on a ddifferent network to test it
[14:43] <uKKeMan> hmm
[14:43] <uKKeMan> then there is nothing i need
[14:43] <juano__> tubular: wires and wireless to the same router ?
[14:43] <tubular> ikonia no idea what that is
[14:43] <madsporkmurderer> I am trying to set up a media computer, and have the resolution set to 640x480@57Hz in order to get a tv-out signal. How do I change the refresh rate of the login screen so that it will also display on the tv-out?
[14:43] <uKKeMan> cause im behind a router and set up the ports
[14:43] <_nix_> uKKeMan: also known as port-forwarding
[14:43] <ikonia> tubular routing table I should say, sorry
[14:44] <xcasex> ikonia: did that.
[14:44] <xcasex> didnt work.
[14:44] <xcasex> even plopped in a new eth card
[14:44] <xcasex> still no-go
[14:44] <Agiofws> ikonia,  t it to work
[14:44] <_nix_> uKKeMan: if you don't have a router between you and the net.. probably not
[14:44] <Agiofws> though
[14:44] <Agiofws> it still does not see the touchpad
[14:44] <xcasex> everything points to the network being at fault
[14:44] <ikonia> xcasex: ok, so the card/device isn't working with ubuntu then
[14:44] <ikonia> Agiofws your configurtion is not supported - your not using ubuntu
[14:44] <uKKeMan> i got one
[14:44] <tubular> juano__ as far as i know it's different systems controlling them
[14:44] <uKKeMan> but i set the ports up
[14:44] <xcasex> But, the macbook pro has the same ethernet, and that works
[14:44] <uKKeMan> but kad is still saying firewalled#
[14:44] <ikonia> xcasex is that running ubuntu ?
[14:44] <_nix_> uKKeMan: still not if the router is doing full SNAT/DNAT translation
[14:44] <xcasex> ikonia: yah.
[14:44] <tubular> ikonia anything specific i'm looking for?
[14:45] <NIMBY> soundray I have edited it to match what you just sent
[14:45] <ikonia> xcasex as in the macbook is running ubuntu
[14:45] <xcasex> ikonia: yes.
[14:45] <ikonia> tubular default route and the route for the subnet of both cards
[14:45] <juano__> tubular: dns issue, check /etc/resolv.conf
[14:45] <xcasex> ikonia: stop talking down to me btw :p
[14:45] <NIMBY> soundray do I need to reboot to get it working ?
[14:45] <ikonia> xcasex: is it 100 the same card or just the same driver
[14:45] <ikonia> xcasex I'm not talking down to you, I'm asking questions to find out the situation
[14:45] <xcasex> its the same integrated ethernet card
[14:45] <ikonia> xcasex: so lspci/lshw shows the same hardware and revision ?
[14:45] <uKKeMan> but: http://www.amule.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ_eD2k-Kademlia#Why_does_Kademlia_still_say_it_is_.22firewalled.3F.22  says that i need to prevent port remapping whatever that is
[14:46] <_nix_> uKKeMan: then you'll have to do what's called port forwarding. by the way.. if you mention my nick while replying would make it easiar for me to spot you
[14:46] <juano__> tubular: if your behind a router nameserver should be your router
[14:46] <xcasex> ikonia: same hw not same rev.
[14:46] <ikonia> xcasex: ok, so there is a valid difference
[14:46] <soundray> NIMBY: yes. Do you have a way to get help if it doesn't boot?
[14:46] <Agiofws> ikonia,   i used  ubuntus live cd config file compiled a vanila kernel made an initrd image and booted debian
[14:46] <xcasex> ikonia: i think this box is too new :(
[14:46] <ikonia> Agiofws: your not using ubuntu
[14:46] <uKKeMan> _nix_: sorry keep forgetting :) ... yeah i did the port forwarding thing. ed2k net: high id! kademlia net: firewalled
[14:46] <soundray> NIMBY: live CD?
[14:46] <zgmf-x20a> anyone here use terminator x?
[14:47] <ikonia> xcasex: that is possibvle, or it could be the board the card sits on needs kernela parameters (irq for example) to enable the card properly with ubuntu, as I'd bet the board is not the same one as the macbook ?
[14:47] <NIMBY> soundray I have my vista build and I could more than likely use grub to get it to boot
[14:47] <tubular> ikonia there's a default there for eth0 and the route for the eth0 local network.
[14:47] <_nix_> uKKeMan: oh.. boy.. what kind of net setup do you have? you->router->internet? or just you->internet?
[14:47] <ikonia> tubular: thats reasonable
[14:47] <uKKeMan> _nix_: me -> router -> internet :)
[14:48] <NIMBY> soundray I am just going to copy the ubuntu irc settings into a file so I can connect on irc on the vista build if need be
[14:48] <Agiofws> no
[14:48] <soundray> NIMBY: I hope it works. I have to log off now. I'm sure someone else will help if it doesn't work
[14:48] <Agiofws> but only ubuntus live cd detecs the touch pad
[14:48] <tubular> ikonia but the table takes foreve to finish loading, i'm assuming because it's trying to get the host name of the gateway bu can;t, so eventually it gives up and puts an IP there
[14:48] <_nix_> uKKeMan: oh.. k, does your amule client as well as you router support upnp? check the specs.. makes life a lot easier
[14:48] <juano__> tubular: man route
[14:48] <ikonia> tubular a reasonable guess
[14:49] <uKKeMan> _nix_: router = yes ... amule = (in some specs = yes) but i cant find it.. i searched for and it would of course make it easier
[14:49] <tubular> juano__ there are five nameservers in resolv.conf, all of which are supposed to be
[14:49] <NIMBY> soundray thanks for all your help :) I really do appreciate it !
[14:49] <tubular> ikonia so if the routing table is set up correctly, what then?
[14:50] <soundray> NIMBY: np, good luck
[14:50] <ikonia> tubular who said the routing table is setup correctly?
[14:50] <_nix_> uKKeMan: in that case.. we'll need to get inside your router. most router have a telnet interface to control them.
[14:50] <uKKeMan> _nix_: one moment i have to allow my host to connect via telnet
[14:51] <_nix_> uKKeMan: sure.. take your (reasonable) time
[14:51] <juano__> !mp3
[14:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:52] <BlackF1re> Hello! Can anyone tell me how to install the php5-dbase package on Ubuntu 7.04, or where to look for this information? It seems this is no longer available
[14:53] <tubular> ikonia actually, i have two default routes, but i can't delete the one for wireless
[14:53] <ikonia> tubular you can't have 2 default routes
[14:54] <NIMBY> Hi again, soundray just helped me setting up swap etc, could someone tell me how I verify it's working , tia
[14:54] <tubular> ikonia i figured that, but i can't figure out how to specify the second one to delete
[14:54] <mavi-> !kernel
[14:54] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[14:54] <ikonia> tubular route del
[14:55] <fulhack> Heya. Can I host an FTP server and ONLY open port 21? I don't want random high ports open for transfers.
[14:55] <ikonia> fulhack yup, but you'll have no transmission channel
[14:56] <Debbo_98767> moin
[14:56] <fulhack> ikonia, :\ Thing is.. I'm setting up an FTP server on ubuntu. The last admin claims that he had a working FTP (I witnessed this) with transfer capabilities, but the only available port is 21..
[14:57] <d4rk3lf> exit
[14:57] <uKKeMan_> _nix_: back
[14:57] <Debbo_98767> hello gilrs
[14:57] <Debbo_98767> girls
[14:57] <fulhack> And the clients can not open high ports on their machines.
[14:57] <sproingie> fulhack: most firewalls can be made smart about ftp
[14:57] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: ok.. you know how to log into ur router via telnet?
[14:57] <ikonia> fulhack I don't see how that can works
[14:57] <fulhack> ikonia, Me neither..
[14:58] <fulhack> sproingie, This FW is dumb as a brick..and I don't have access to it :\
[14:58] <ikonia> fulhack: I suspect he had 21 and 22 open only
[14:58] <fulhack> ikonia, Right.
[14:58] <sproingie> 22 is ssh.  20 is ftp data
[14:58] <sproingie> fulhack: i'd say you're stuck with something else like scp or http
[14:58] <uKKeMan_> _nix_: normally just telnet ip normal port will be used
[14:58] <uKKeMan_> _nix_ but i get disconnected
[14:58] <fulhack> I can't. I need FTP :P Can I transfer multiple files at the same time over say.. port 20?
[14:59] <wk> how can i  connect to QQ?
[14:59] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: oh.. k any other way to control that thing? hey wanna scan ur router for open ports? ;-)
[14:59] <uKKeMan_> yeah webinterface is the normal way isnt it?
[14:59] <ikonia> fulhack you can have multiple connections
[15:00] <tubular> ikonia i deleted both route to do with the wireless interface, but the problem is still occurring
[15:00] <fulhack> As it is now I'm running a passive server w/ 6697 (don't ask) as my transfer port.. but I can only send one file at a time? Perhaps that's something else?
[15:00] <ikonia> tubular: where are your dns servers
[15:00] <sproingie> fulhack: active ftp originates everything from 20.  passive ftp doesn't use 20 at all afaik but does require random ports to get opened
[15:00] <ikonia> fulhack one account can only send 1 file at a time
[15:00] <ikonia> fulhack: you can login a second time as the same persona and send another file
[15:00] <fulhack> On one port? (the same port)
[15:00] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: it sure is.. but do you get to set arbitary firewall rules from there? iptables specifically?
[15:01] <ikonia> fulhack no, each connection wil use ports 21 and 22,
[15:01] <fulhack> ikonia, Darn :\
[15:01] <uKKeMan_> _nix_: ohhh... its not a machine. its just a small router device a netgear
[15:01] <ikonia> tubular: where are your dns servers
[15:02] <sproingie> fulhack: basically your firewall must allow high ports if you use passive, or ports 20 *to* any high port if active
[15:02] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: sure.. I've got a Broadcom6338v1 based router myself.. It allows control via web, ftp and telnet.
[15:03] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: the telnet interface give me shell to play around with
[15:03] <sproingie> fulhack: that netgear box probably does handle ftp both ways though
[15:03] <fulhack> sproingie, Yeah.. The server has port 21 available.. Therefore it can not create high ports.. The clients can not create any port at all. Therefore they can not create high ports :\
[15:03] <sproingie> fulhack: you can't use ftp then
[15:03] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: issuing nc -nrzv <router ip address> 20-80 should give you a list of open ports in there..
[15:04] <tubular> ikonia a second identical computer is having no problems with dns before bringing both interfaces up, so i know the servers are up
[15:04] <sproingie> ftp needs to die anyway.  its whole design predates tcp/ip itself
[15:04] <josue_m> hi, ubuntu 7.10: manually set the ip info to the lan eht0 but ubuntu says the wired connection still in roaming mode,  any idea how to fix ??
[15:04] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: in the range 20-80
[15:04] <fulhack> Yeah, it's stupid.. I know. :)
[15:04] <fulhack> Been fighting it all day. :P
[15:04] <fulhack> I guess I'll try to get the clients firewalls a bit loosened.
[15:05] <uKKeMan_> _nix_ *cough* command not found
[15:05] <fulhack> Can the client specify a local port (local to the client) for listening, or does the server select a port?
[15:05] <wastrel> hi ubuntys
[15:05] <fulhack> When in active mode, I mean.
[15:06] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: boy what distro you're using? that was netcat.. been with ubuntu since the beginning.. great tool to troubleshoot networking stuff
[15:06] <croftyboy> hi i am trying to get bluetooth usb dongle working on xubuntu
[15:06] <uKKeMan_> ubuntu gutsy
[15:07] <sproingie> fulhack: active, the server uses port 20 and shoves it to an arbitrary port on the client box.  presumably that port gets communicated over port 21 first
[15:07] <sproingie> fulhack: http://www.slacksite.com/other/ftp.html
[15:07] <fulhack> sproingie, Thanks :)
[15:07] <croftyboy> i do sudo hid -connect , the mobile comes up with password i put 1234 but not workin
[15:07] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: oh.. k but what command did you give?
[15:07] <kimguru87> hey guys i've wcdma modem. i want to use it with feisty.detailed settings for xp are listed here http://www.ptcl.com.pk/contentp.php?NID=120. plz could give me idea how to make it work on feisty.i m a noob
[15:07] <sproingie> in a weird way ftp's design is kind of elegant, but it causes way more problems than it solves
[15:08] <sproingie> i think i've done third party ftp exactly once, and i dont think any servers support it these days
[15:08] <kane77> croftyboy, did you set the pin in the config file?
[15:08] <croftyboy> yes , i will check where i did it
[15:09] <paradizelost> hey all. i've installed Ubuntu text mode on several PC's. Loaded xorg and rdesktop, and have them functioning as thin client equivalent. However, after ~10 minutes of inactivity, the screen blanks and will not wake up without hard powering the machine. any ideas?
[15:09] <croftyboy> it trying to use the mobile fone as a remote mouse , what i am trying to do is get pictures off it and backup everything up from it
[15:09] <croftyboy> gedit /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[15:09] <_nix_> uKKeMan_: alright lets get an overview now.. you are connected to the internet via a router.. i.e. you connect to the router and the router connects to the internet and forwards your connection to the internet.. right?
[15:10] <The_Hammer> hola hol
[15:11] <_nix_> The_Hammer: hello
[15:11] <croftyboy> yes i set passkey in the cfg file  /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[15:11] <_nix_> The_Hammer: if that's what you meant.. ;-(
[15:11] <_nix_> The_Hammer: ;-) i mean..
[15:12] <kimguru87> hey guys i've wcdma modem. i want to use it with feisty.detailed settings for xp are listed here http://www.ptcl.com.pk/contentp.php?NID=120. plz could give me idea how to make it work on feisty.i m a noob
[15:13] <zgmf-x20a> can anyone explain how i can instal ubuntu studio on my pc please?
[15:13] <_nix_> !studio | zgmf-x20a
[15:13] <ubotu> zgmf-x20a: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[15:13] <bazhang> zgmf-x20a: dual boot?
[15:15] <twoshadetod> how can i change my startup programs?
[15:16] <timetravel0> system[15:16] <paradizelost> hey all. i've installed Ubuntu text mode on several PC's. Loaded xorg and rdesktop, and have them functioning as thin client equivalent. However, after ~10 minutes of inactivity, the screen blanks and will not wake up without hard powering the machine. any ideas?
[15:16] <Adriana-F> I need some help with a laptop audio issue I'm having, my laptops speakers don't cut out when I plug my headphones in and albeit I found a solution to the problem I keep getting make errors http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1dbb43dc
[15:17] <kimguru87> hey guys i've wcdma modem. i want to use it with feisty.detailed settings for xp are listed here http://www.ptcl.com.pk/contentp.php?NID=120. plz could give me idea how to make it work on feisty.i m a noob
[15:18] <zgmf-x20a> bazhang: yah but im already dual booting with vista
[15:18] <bazhang> zgmf-x20a: you want to replace ubuntu with studio?
[15:19] <zgmf-x20a> i just cant get this dang terminator x working.  i installed via synaptic, but, no gui.... no icon is available to launch it
[15:19] <_ukkemann> _nix_: port 23 and port 80 are open
[15:19] <Adriana-F> I need some help with a laptop audio issue I'm having, my laptops speakers don't cut out when I plug my headphones in and albeit I found a solution to the problem I keep getting make errors http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1dbb43dc
[15:19] <zgmf-x20a> what im looking for is basically a REALLLY good audio mixing app, similar to fruity loops
[15:19] <_ukkemann> zgmf-x20a, i found mix very cool is cheap and based on java
[15:20] <zgmf-x20a> _ukkemann: cheap??  im sorta looking for something to install via synaptic
[15:21] <bazhang> audacity zgmf-x20a
[15:21] <_ukkemann> its a semi professional dj mix tool.. :)
[15:21] <stillWithFiesty> if i don't want a partition to load when a limited user logs in, how do i do it?
[15:21] <zgmf-x20a> bazhang: yup i have audacity already, but it doesnt have a gui for turntables, etc
[15:22] <zgmf-x20a> its only for splitting audio and adding effects
[15:22] <naomi_> hi, does someone knows a way to use my ubuntu computer as an autocue?
[15:22] <croftyboy> sorry phone went again
[15:22] <bazhang> zgmf-x20a: that was my *best* suggestion sorry not to help more
[15:22] <B-rabbit> hi..i am trying to use "record my desktop" but when i press the record the window disappear's...but the process still running...does anyone know how to get the window back?...thanks in advance :)
[15:23] <B-rabbit> any short cuts
[15:23] <brobostigon> hi, i just used cat /proc/uptime and it says 144781.82 144665.54, what format is this and what timeformat is it in.
[15:23] <Adriana-F> I need some help with a laptop audio issue I'm having, my laptops speakers don't cut out when I plug my headphones in and albeit I found a solution to the problem I keep getting make errors http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1dbb43dc
[15:24] <aravind> hi all
[15:24] <stillWithFiesty> hey... how can i stop a partition from mounting when limited users log in, but still allow it to mount when admins log in
[15:24] <sint> hey, is there a tool for linux to read windows registry?
[15:24] <aravind> i am having trouble with enabling visual effects .... can anybody help
[15:25] <hwdyki> is gksu usually installed suid/sgid?
[15:25] <brobostigon> hi, i just used cat /proc/uptime and it says 144781.82 144665.54, what format is this and what timeformat is it in??
[15:25] <brobostigon> is it the uptime in seconds??
[15:26] <B-rabbit> anyone :(
[15:26] <dgjones> brobostigon, what does "uptime" show?
[15:28] <Pici> brobostigon: man proc says that its first the number of seconds since boot, and then the time spent in idle processes.
[15:28] <brobostigon>  15:21:22 up  5:55,  2 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.21, 0.71, but myh router does not have uptime command, i can only run cat /proc/uptime. i wanted to know the uptime on my router??
[15:28] <hwdyki_> anyone replied to my qn?
[15:28] <}btorch{> anyone here knows if a dump of MySQL 5 can be imported into a MySQL 4 engine ?
[15:29] <dwxreaper> if i am running an ntp server, how do i sync the system to itself
[15:29] <hwdyki> is gksu usually installed suid/sgid?
[15:30] <hwdyki_> wtf
[15:30] <hwdyki> why do i keep getting disconnected.
[15:32] <Pici> brobostigon: man proc
[15:33] <dahitokiri> so i've followed the instructions online with starting a samba and all that and it doesn't seem to work still
[15:33] <paradizelost> hey all. i've installed Ubuntu text mode on several PC's. Loaded xorg and rdesktop, and have them functioning as thin client equivalent. However, after ~10 minutes of inactivity, the screen blanks and will not wake up without hard powering the machine. any ideas?
[15:33] <dahitokiri> i right click on a folder, do share folder
[15:34] <dahitokiri> and pick SMB
[15:34] <ikonia> paradizelost njot really very thin
[15:34] <dahitokiri> but nothing
[15:34] <ikonia> paradizelost: infact ther is nothing thin about those desktops at all.
[15:34] <ikonia> paradizelost: the problem is potentially power managment
[15:35] <therion_> How can increase the performance of an Ati radeon 9100 IGP (rs300m)?
[15:35] <madsporkmurderer> for some reason ctrl alt F1 (or any other f key) wont get me to a shell, any ideas how to fix it?
[15:36] <ikonia> therion_ ues the best drivers you can
[15:36] <hwdyki> is gksu usually installed suid/sgid?
[15:36] <ikonia> hwdyki: yes
[15:36] <ibanez> anyways to tell if your install on an ATi card was successful ?
[15:36] <therion_> ikonia: I cannot using it, ati doesn't support this chipset :(
[15:36] <ikonia> ibanez if you use it ?
[15:36] <hwdyki> ok thx
[15:37] <ikonia> therion_ screwed then
[15:37] <therion_> ikonia: I'm using open drivers..
[15:37] <ibanez> i just did the general driver in add/remove under applications
[15:37] <ikonia> therion_ nothing you can do
[15:37] <dahitokiri> ikonia, glxgears and glxinfo
[15:37] <dahitokiri> err
[15:37] <dahitokiri> that was for ibanes
[15:37] <Learning-Ubuntu> glxgears would be a reliable way of testing it
[15:37] <ikonia> dahitokiri: no problem.
[15:37] <Learning-Ubuntu> wouldnt*
[15:38] <dahitokiri> it's a quick way to see if you're on the right path
[15:38] <luiz> just installed ubuntu in my aspire 3050, but when it finishes installing, it wont boot
[15:38] <dahitokiri> if you get 10 fps, you know you've screwed up somewhere
[15:38] <hp> hi
[15:38] <c0kit0_2oo7> hi
[15:38] <c0kit0_2oo7> hola
[15:38] <hp> how u doing?
[15:38] <dahitokiri> can anyone answer my question regard samba shares
[15:38] <Learning-Ubuntu> dahitokiri, lol I guess that would definitely be true. But if you got 10fps in glxgears that would be a hige disaster :x
[15:38] <luiz> what should I do when my ubuntu isn`t loading? i`m on a acer 3050!
[15:38] <therion_> ikonia: 	
[15:38] <therion_> I used driconf, they work ... But another option that can enter into xorg.conf?
[15:39] <c0kit0_2oo7> hi hp
[15:39] <ibanez> lol it restarted x
[15:39] <paradizelost> hey all. i've installed Ubuntu text mode on several PC's. Loaded xorg and rdesktop, and have them functioning as thin client equivalent. However, after ~10 minutes of inactivity, the screen blanks and will not wake up without hard powering the machine. any ideas?
[15:39] <c0kit0_2oo7> fine
[15:39] <hp> hi cokito!
[15:39] <ibanez> i get about 25k frames in 5.0 seconds
[15:39] <dahitokiri> i followed the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/networking-shares.html but it doesn't seem to work still. is there any way of getting an error message to see what could possibly be wrong?
[15:39] <hp> i wanna be a member of ur channel!
[15:39] <c0kit0_2oo7> what's this? :-p
[15:39] <new_coe> what is the difference between Ubunto 7.10 and Ubunto 6.06 LTS ?
[15:39] <tino> paradizelost, go to system>power management
[15:39] <Patchak_> hello, is there anything special I need to do to mount a hd onmy computer, it takes an eternity for ubuntu to actually detect it and I was wondering how I could speed things up??
[15:40] <Pici> hp: What do you mean?
[15:40] <fabricio> is there anyone ho can help me with the VIA CHrome9 driver in Kubuntu ?
[15:40] <hp> Pici : i'm new in this channel
[15:40] <bazhang> hp: this is a support channel
[15:40] <zgmf-x20a> bazhang: its cool man, thanks though
[15:40] <new_coe> what is the difference between Ubunto 7.10 and Ubunto 6.06 LTS ?
[15:41] <hp> Okey, i wanna instal ubuntu in my pc!
[15:41] <ibanez> Linux avenged 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:41] <c0kit0_2oo7> the difference between the 6.06 and the 7.10... is the version :p... so you'll get some kind of programs with one and other programs with the last
[15:41] <dahitokiri> ibanez, nice name for the comp.
[15:41] <bazhang> hp: you have any questions?
[15:41] <Pici> new_coe: 6.06 is the LTS edition, supported for 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server.  7.10 does not have that same support length.
[15:41] <ibanez> thanks dahitokiri ;p
[15:41] <c0kit0_2oo7> the you have the time support for each one
[15:41] <ibanez> i believe my ati card is installed
[15:42] <mikebeecham> Pici...which is a shame because it's so sweet straight out of the box
[15:42] <ibanez> 25k frames per 5.0 seconds
[15:42] <Pici> new_coe: The version numbers are the release date, i.e: 2006/6th month and 2007/10th month
[15:42] <luiz> my ubuntu wont load, just installed it, what should i do
[15:42] <ibanez> i really just want it for more compiz options
[15:42] <hp> Yes, how can i get Linux Ubuntu?
[15:42] <c0kit0_2oo7> hp
[15:42] <ibanez> download it.
[15:42] <c0kit0_2oo7> visit www.ubuntu.com
[15:42] <Learning-Ubuntu> ibanez, What do you get when you type glxinfo | grep direct
[15:42] <hp> thx Cokito!
[15:42] <dahitokiri> ibanez, "glxinfo | grep direct" if you see yes, everything is fine
[15:42] <c0kit0_2oo7> you can download it from there..
[15:42] <Pici> !download | hp
[15:42] <ubotu> hp: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[15:42] <ibanez> lemme look
[15:43] <hp> yes, cokito!
[15:43] <ibanez>  damn
[15:43] <ibanez> i get No
[15:43] <dahitokiri> ibanez, enjoy :) lol
[15:43] <ibanez> :P
[15:43] <mikebeecham> hp: : you wont regret going over to Linux...I did it about 2 weeks ago and there's no reason to back to windows
[15:43] <ibanez> it's ok
[15:43] <dahitokiri> ibanez, what's your card?
[15:43] <c0kit0_2oo7> you can also request for a free cd with ubuntu 7.10
[15:43] <ibanez> urm x900
[15:43] <ibanez> i think
[15:43] <ibanez> it's on the laptop
[15:43] <arash> Hi, I have a file, '/dev/vboxdrv' to be precise, which I want to be under my ownership, not root's,. Fixing that is not big dael for me. But sometimes it changes without me touching it, any ideas to make a permanent change?
[15:43] <ibanez> it's not a big deal
[15:43] <ibanez> the windows still wobble ;p
[15:44] <dahitokiri> ibanez, lspci
[15:44] <ibanez> well, they did lol..
[15:44] <hp> mmm, nice cokito!
[15:44] <c0kit0_2oo7> :-p
[15:44] <ibanez> RV250 FireGl 9000
[15:44] <c0kit0_2oo7> who knows about a chat in spanish?:P
[15:44] <ibanez> rev. 02
[15:44] <new_coe> I have Acer laptop travelMate 291LCi, the dirver (INTEL) works fine on Ubunto 6.06 but it doesn't work on 7.10
[15:44] <new_coe> any idea ?
[15:44] <hp> mikebeecham : yes, i already installed madrake 10.0 in my pc
[15:44] <brobostigon> !ubuntu-es
[15:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-es - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:45] <geirha_> !es | c0kit0_2oo7
[15:45] <bazhang> new_coe: what card the wireless?
[15:45] <ubotu> c0kit0_2oo7: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:45] <Ax-Ax> how can i use find to search the whole system after a folder?
[15:45] <fixl> hi guzs
[15:45] <dahitokiri> ibanez, have you checked on ati's site whether they have a linux driver for that card?
[15:45] <fixl> ups
[15:45] <fixl> ups
[15:45] <new_coe> bazhang: sorry, the graphics card
[15:45] <ibanez> sure haven't, best i do that now :P
[15:45] <c0kit0_2oo7> brobos i don't want a forum :-p i mean a chat inside Xchat :p
[15:45] <geirha_> Ax-Ax: find / -type d -name "name_of_dir"
[15:45] <new_coe> intel 852GM
[15:46] <fixl> i have trouble installing mz ati drivers
[15:46] <fixl> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[15:46] <kirtan> hi
[15:46] <Ax-Ax> geirha_, thx
[15:46] <ibanez> i think everyone has treouble with ATI drivers lol
[15:46] <bazhang> new_coe: what is the issue--black screen low res etc
[15:46] <fixl> i did as it was said in the manual
[15:46] <timetravel0> i have a solution for ati drivers
[15:46] <fixl> 2nd time now that it doesnt work
[15:46] <dahitokiri> ibanez, yeah, vid card issues are probably the biggest trouble area for linux right now
[15:46] <kirtan> can any bodu help me i have problem in my Sound Compaq presario 3070TU
[15:46] <new_coe> (bazhang: low res
[15:46] <kirtan> plz plz
[15:46] <kirtan> hel p me
[15:46] <c0kit0_2oo7> the ati driver always give problems....
[15:46] <timetravel0> in my blog i wrote an article to resolve the problems with compiz
[15:47] <Patchak_> when I plug in a HD usb 2.0 the computer takes reallu a long time to detect it and mount it.. Is there any way to forc detection and to mount it by hand??
[15:47] <new_coe> bazhang: low res
[15:47] <ikonia> c0kit0_2oo7 if you believe in amd/ati - patience will pay off when they open things up
[15:47] <dahitokiri> timetravel0, what problems? the problems with session saving?
[15:47] <fixl> well
[15:47] <bazhang> new_coe: is that a newer card?
[15:47] <timetravel0> the problems with compiz, mainly
[15:47] <fixl> i'll be back later to bug u with my problem
[15:47] <dahitokiri> timetravel0, what problems with compiz? lol
[15:47] <oneadvent> wow. I actually figured out how to join this thing
[15:47] <oneadvent> humph. first time
[15:47] <new_coe> bazhang: it is an old one Intel 852GM
[15:47] <timetravel0> compiz, ati, and ubuntu
[15:48] <bazhang> welcome
[15:48] <dahitokiri> timetravel0, link?
[15:48] <grgg> hola
[15:48] <linuxuser> no sound on a realtek audio device, device not detected, now what?
[15:48] <bazhang> new_coe: ok then is it a desktop or laptop
[15:48] <dahitokiri> realtek sucks
[15:48] <c0kit0_2oo7> goodbye people
[15:48] <c0kit0_2oo7> i'll be back
[15:48] <linuxuser> apparently, ubuntu does, as it works on other distros fine
[15:48] <new_coe> bazhang: laptop
[15:48] <geirha_> !ask | kirtan
[15:48] <ubotu> kirtan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:49] <brobostigon> realtek make good nic chipssets
[15:49] <bazhang> new_coe: have you installed gutsy or just the livecd mode
[15:49] <Learning-Ubuntu> linuxuser, Thats a problem. First check if your channels are muted. Then at the end if it doesnt work use this thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[15:49] <burnerx> my gnome-terminal doesn't show color anymore...
[15:49] <kirtan> No sound in Compaq presario 3070TU  how to solve that problem?
[15:49] <dahitokiri> i followed the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/networking-shares.html but it doesn't seem to work still. is there any way of getting an error message to see what could possibly be wrong?
[15:49] <Learning-Ubuntu> linuxuser , this a toshiba laptop or desktop?
[15:50] <ibanez> hrm
[15:50] <new_coe> bazhang: installed gusty
[15:50] <ibanez> i cannot find a driver
[15:50] <burnerx> Directory should be green...
[15:50] <ibanez> seems like RV250 is not right lol
[15:50] <burnerx> easier for me to identify
[15:50] <linuxuser> bullshit
[15:50] <bazhang> new_coe: does it need the restricted drivers?
[15:50] <Learning-Ubuntu> kirtan First check if channels are muted. Then Check out he thread https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[15:50] <wers> is banshee lighter than amarok?
[15:50] <thrope> Hi - on 64bit ubuntu I have a trouble with an app where when I resize the window, the widgets + other window contents don't resize to take up the space. Has anyone seen something like this before?
[15:50] <thrope> it is a matlab type application (comsol)
[15:50] <neosimago> what's the cmd prompt command to show all services in term?
[15:50] <new_coe> bazhang: I don't think so
[15:51] <hYp3rCub3> o/
[15:51] <timetravel0> danyelle.it
[15:51] <brobostigon> cat /proc/services
[15:51] <brobostigon> i think??
[15:51] <ibanez> and no FireGL 9000
[15:51] <kirtan> when i Started ubuntu with live cd at that time the sound was working correctly but
[15:51] <neosimago> i well, i should say everything running in runlevel default and see if they are up and running
[15:51] <kirtan> after install its not working
[15:51] <brobostigon> ignore that, its wrong
[15:51] <pike_> neosimago: there are a few ps -A, ps aux, top is a handy command for proc cpu usage
[15:52] <geirha_> thrope: I've encountered things like that too (on a 32-bit system), though I haven't bothered finding a fix for it yet
[15:52] <Saiffen> hello , bonjour
[15:52] <thrope> geirha_: hmm... the support from the company are blaming opengl, but we're using the latest nvidia drivers and everyhting else is working
[15:52] <arash> kirtan, have you tried messing aroound a bit in volume control?
[15:52] <Saiffen> for alls
[15:52] <kirtan> yes i tried all that things
[15:53] <kirtan> like
[15:53] <fabricio> is there somebody who knows how to install the Motorola SM56 modem ?
[15:53] <geirha_> thrope: does it work properly if you disable compiz?
[15:53] <kirtan> in commandline
[15:53] <kirtan> alsamixer also
[15:53] <kirtan> but it not working
[15:53] <thrope> geirha-: just trying that
[15:53] <ibanez> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 02)
[15:53] <thrope> just thought of it now
[15:53] <brobostigon> schbirid, do you come from hamburg??
[15:53] <Pici> kirtan: What does it do?
[15:53] <Learning-Ubuntu> kirtan, By any chance do you have realtek on board or Intel HD Audio on this computer?
[15:54] <schbirid> brobostigon: yes
[15:54] <kirtan> i dont know what driver it has but I have Compaq Presario V3070TU
[15:54] <yereth> did you guys ever have problems with doing "apt-get install ubuntustudio*" and not having your system boot again?
[15:55] <ibanez> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[15:55] <brobostigon> i though s, because /whois you, says hansenet.de, and i have used that t before, wwhen i lived there,
[15:55] <thrope> geirha_: yeah, actually without compiz it seems to work fine - thanks a lot
[15:55] <ikonia> yereth no, but I find installing ubuntu studio as a product better than installing ubuntu and trying to mix it in
[15:55] <arash> Hi, I have a file, '/dev/vboxdrv' to be precise, which I want to be under my ownership, not root's,. Fixing that is not big deal for me. But sometimes it changes back without me touching it, any ideas to make a permanent change?
[15:55] <schbirid> question: that "shiny blingbling" new gui monitor settings tool does not work for me. can i configure the xorg.conf just like usual or is it somewhat different?
[15:55] <yereth> ikonia: of course, but I didn't really feel for a reinstall
[15:56] <bazhang> new_coe: there are some threads at ubuntuforums.org on this card and 3d effects--seems like compiz is not easy to get going. what is the possible max res on that computer?
[15:56] <yereth> ikonia: perhaps he messed up my nvidia drivers..?
[15:56] <schbirid> arash: try chown (i don't know the syntax offhand)
[15:56] <geirha> thrope: I'm guessing a bugreport for compiz at launchpad.net will fix the problem eventually
[15:56] <ikonia> yereth apologies, I thought i was you who where asking
[15:56] <arash> schbirid: hmm, I know how to change the ownership, but do you know why it automatically changes back?
[15:57] <yereth> ikonia: I guess you have no experience with this.. or?
[15:57] <brobostigon> wie gehts, schbirid?? mir gehts gut.
[15:57] <ikonia> yereth: I've never seen it no, but I have used ubuntu studio a good few times
[15:57] <yereth> ikonia: never installed it this way, did you?
[15:57] <geirha> arash: the nodes in /dev are created each time you boot, so you have to change the ownership in some configuration file. Not sure where though
[15:58] <ikonia> yes
[15:58] <schbirid> brobostigon: sorry, i am not here for chatting. my eyes would be melted by the 640x480x60hz too soon
[15:58] <brobostigon> i help sometimes in ubuntu-de
[15:58] <ikonia> geirha udev rules
[15:58] <arash> geirha: thanks
[15:58] <brobostigon> thats not good i hope it gets solved.
[16:00] <coldboot> In metacity, I'm having a problem where my single-clicks randomly become double-clicks. My xorg.conf is fine, the double-click delay is fine, and it happens in ALL applications. Anyone have any ideas?
[16:01] <B-rabbit> i need help pls...does anyone know the official website for "recordmydesktop" software, which records the activity on the desktop....i have been googlin it for the past five min , but was unfortunate..thnks
[16:01] <ikonia> B-rabbit sorry no
[16:02] <B-rabbit> ikonia, do u use it?
[16:02] <B-rabbit> you might be able to help
[16:02] <ikonia> B-rabbit: no, sorry
[16:02] <ikonia> B-rabbit: for your information, this is an ubuntu support channel only
[16:02] <Pici> B-rabbit: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net
[16:02] <genii> Pici: Yeah thats what I found
[16:03] <Pici> genii: I just looked in the package in aptitude
[16:03] <B-rabbit> ikonia: i know, i am using recordmydesktop on my ubuntu
[16:04] <genii> also http://recordmydesktop.iovar.org/about.php
[16:04] <ikonia> B-rabbit: its use is nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:04] <B-rabbit> Pici: thnks
[16:04] <geirha> coldboot: do you have a different os to test the mouse on? In order to rule out hardware fault ...
[16:04] <coldboot> geirha: No, but I can test another mouse.
[16:04] <Pici> B-rabbit: fyi, there is a package in the repos if you just want to install it.
[16:04] <andy_js> why does my restricted drivers manager say fglrx is enabled but not in use?
[16:06] <Parsi> when i click a workspace thumbnail all the desktop disappears!
[16:06] <B-rabbit> Pici: i installed it, but i am having trouble using it....thats why i asked for the "recordmydesktop" official web sit so i could read the manual..:)
[16:06] <burnerx> how do i get gnome-terminal to color-code my directory and files
[16:06] <burnerx> so it is easier for me to identify them
[16:07] <ibanez> how do i reset my xorg.conf
[16:07] <PC> Hello everybody! Got a problem wit wifi internet connection using belkin USB device with Ra2500 chipset and a Netgear gateway; I use network manager wich often doesn't see my network, and using static IP doesn't get me connected (can't ping the router), but the card works. Syslog messages: no STA entry for own AP and no proberesp from current AP. Everything works under winxp. Could anybody help please?
[16:07] <ikonia> ibanez reset it ?
[16:07] <ibanez> back to default
[16:07] <ikonia> ibanez: you can't
[16:08] <Adriana-F> actually if theres a backup you can
[16:08] <ibanez> well man
[16:08] <Pici> B-rabbit: I figured.
[16:08] <ibanez> oh well
[16:08] <ibanez> thanks anwyways
[16:08] <ikonia> Adriana-F $1000 says he's not backed up
[16:09] <geirha> ibanez: you can reconfigure it with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:09] <Adriana-F> should be done auto now if I remember correct, atleast it usualy does for me
[16:09] <s3v3n8SiX> MasterShrek, u there mate?
[16:09] <burnerx> how do i get gnome-terminal to color-code my directory and files??
[16:09] <B-rabbit> burnerx: i don't think you can...but you can change the icons though
[16:09] <s3v3n8SiX> MasterShrek, u there mate?
[16:09] <ikonia> s3v3n8SiX he's not logged in
[16:09] <MystaMax> PC, is your SSID broadcasted?
[16:09] <PC> MystaMax: no
[16:09] <MystaMax> PC, it needs to be on ubuntu
[16:10] <AverageJoe> Does anyone know how to use freedos
[16:10] <puppetmaster> hi everyone
[16:10] <AverageJoe> i need to recover my mbr without my windows cd
[16:10] <B-rabbit> hi
[16:10] <puppetmaster> I have a big problem and I need any help
[16:10] <PC> MystaMax: what do you mean?
[16:11] <puppetmaster> i have an asus mother board and it's graphical card doesn't operate properly
[16:11] <puppetmaster> it's model P4V8X-MX
[16:11] <MystaMax> PC, open your wireless router admin pages, and make sure your SSID is being broadcasted, otherwise network manager will not see it
[16:11] <coldboot> You're right, it was a hardware fault, my mouse was broken.
[16:11] <SLaPoet> MystaMax: essid doesn't have to be broadcasted on ubuntu. the essid can be manually defined in the network manager applet.
[16:12] <MystaMax> Didn't work for me
[16:12] <MystaMax> so i suggested what did
[16:12] <gordonjcp> SLaPoet: it's an extremely bad idea to turn off broadcasting ESSID though
[16:12] <PC> Yes I tried to define it manually
[16:12] <PC> but it doesn't work
[16:12] <puppetmaster> any suggestion would help me please
[16:12] <geirha> coldboot: well, it could be the mouse-driver doesn't work properly with that model, but the probability of hardware failure is a bit higher I think
[16:12] <Pici> puppetmaster: What video card?
[16:13] <puppetmaster> it's built in the mother board
[16:13] <gordonjcp> SLaPoet: it doesn't really give you any added security, and about half the wifi cards out there simply won't work with it turned off
[16:13] <AverageJoe> anyone, i need to remove grub from my primary windows drive,i was told to use freedos anyone who can help me out with that PLEASE
[16:13] <SLaPoet> i'm running wep2 silently at home no issues no worries, my notebook automatically connects on boot.
[16:13] <puppetmaster> motherboard: ASUS P4V8X-MX
[16:13] <Majkball> Is it possible to remotely edit a file through ssh or similair?
[16:13] <ikonia> AverageJoe use a windows install cd and use the fixboot option
[16:13] <keith-> how do i make compiz start gtk-window-decorator by default?  it always starts up emerald now...
[16:13] <MystaMax> PC, try broadcasting your SSID, and lets see if it works
[16:13] <keith-> is there a config somewhere i am not finding?
[16:13] <Lumpy^> where in ubuntu the prefs.js is located? there is nothing there in the file... (firefox)
[16:14] <Pici> !pm | puppetmaster
[16:14] <ubotu> puppetmaster: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[16:14] <coldboot> geirha: It's the standard issue 3-button wheel logitech mouse. I have 4 of them, it's not the driver. =)
[16:14] <puppetmaster> OK SORRY
[16:14] <puppetmaster>  i have an asus mother board and it's graphical card doesn't operate properly... it's model P4V8X-MX
[16:14] <PC> MystaMax: ok, how do I do that?
[16:14] <Learning-Ubuntu> puppetmaster, Sis graphics?
[16:14] <MystaMax> PC, I'm not sure what router you have
[16:14] <MystaMax> PC, who manages your wifi network
[16:14] <puppetmaster> YES i GUESS
[16:15] <puppetmaster> S3 SOMETHING
[16:15] <MystaMax> Lumpy^, ~/.mozilla/firefox/y6kj51ms.default is where my pref.js is
[16:15] <Learning-Ubuntu> puppetmaster, Do you mean low resolution or no graphics period?
[16:15] <nomojob> I just unpackeged Sunbird Calendar, but I cant figure out how to run it.  Can someone help?
[16:16] <puppetmaster> THERE IS TOW PROBLEMS: 1- THE MONITOR SWITHED OFF IN THE BOOTING SCREEN
[16:16] <Pici> !caps | puppetmaster
[16:16] <ubotu> puppetmaster: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[16:16] <puppetmaster> 2- LOW RESOLUTION SO THAT I CAN'T OPERATE DISK EFFECTS
[16:16] <Learning-Ubuntu> puppetmaster, You mean you dont have the splash screen. I have a 8600 gt and I cant for the life of me figure whats nto making it come :( so Im clueless there
[16:16] <geirha> coldboot: in that case, better check if the guaranty is still valid ;)
[16:17] <AverageJoe> ikonia, i dont have the windows cd...i ve downloaded and burnt the freedos
[16:18] <ikonia> AverageJoe got to bootdisk.com and use a win98 boot disk and use "fdisk /mbr"
[16:18] <nomojob> I just unpackeged Sunbird Calendar, but I cant figure out how to run it.  Can someone help?
[16:18] <ikonia> nomojob did you get a binary or source release
[16:18] <puppetmaster> I'm with you
[16:18] <MystaMax> nomojob, where'd you get the sunbird package from?
[16:19] <nomojob> downloaded from the mozilla website
[16:19] <puppetmaster> when this problem is over I'll say to window goodbye
[16:19] <keith-> okay so no one knows how to make compiz start gtk-window-decorator instead of emerald?
[16:19] <geirha> nomojob: there's sunbird in the ubuntu repositories (at least for gutsy), any reason why you don't use that one?
[16:20] <nomojob> geirha: someone on the ubuntu forums just told me to google it and download
[16:20] <puppetmaster> Where are you guys?
[16:20] <arghh2d2> I'm looking for some script help, basically i want to run a command that logs out of X and then logs back in with a different color depth, such as: killall xinit ; xinit -- -depth 8   the problem is that the second command (xinit -- -depth 8 doesnt start after logging out of x, any ideas?
[16:20] <Pici> keith-: I believe theres a field somewhere in compizconfig-settings-manager for the window decorator, but the people in #compiz-fusion could probabl help you better.
[16:20] <puppetmaster> The ASUS problem?
[16:20] <nomojob> geirha: do i go through Synaptic then?
[16:21] <FunnyLookinHat> nomojob, there should be a version of sunbird in the repositories if you are running gutsy gibbon I believe
[16:21] <FunnyLookinHat> nomojob, sudo aptitude install sunbird
[16:21] <nomojob> FunnyLookinHat: ok, thanks!
[16:22] <puppetmaster> anyone I have an ASUS motherboard which it's graphical card doesn't operate properly
[16:22] <puppetmaster> I'm running ubuntu 7.10
[16:22] <Lunks> How to read package's description through apt-get? (supposing I know the package name)
[16:22] <Pici> puppetmaster: Have you installed yet?
[16:22] <AverageJoe> ikonia, can i use freedos to r3ecover it?
[16:23] <eyyYo> Hi.. Need some help with direct rendering on Ubuntu. When doing 'glxinfo' it says 'Direct rendering: No (try .......)', but still the desktop effects (3d cube, animations etc) works like a charm. One thing thats not working is wine, when it needs directX. Anyone got a clue? Thanks :)
[16:23] <ikonia> AverageJoe its easier not to
[16:23] <Pici> Lunks: apt-cache show packagename
[16:23] <ikonia> AverageJoe: use the win 98 boot disk
[16:23] <puppetmaster> yes my friend I installed ubuntu 7.10
[16:23] <Lunks> Pici: k, thank you very much. :)
[16:23] <puppetmaster> and i have two problems
[16:23] <AverageJoe> ikonia, i dont have any boot disk other than ubuntu and freedos (which i downloaded and burnt just now)
[16:23] <mnoptre> heya..have any of u tried settin up beryl...
[16:23] <JiminyJones> i'm looking for a chess game that supports undoing moves
[16:23] <mnoptre> on feisty
[16:24] <Pici> puppetmaster: Are there any available drivers in System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager?
[16:24] <YeTr2_> nomojob: apt-get; aptitude; and synaptic all basically do the same thing, they install packages from package repos onto your system.
[16:24] <Pici> !beryl | mnoptre
[16:24] <ubotu> mnoptre: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[16:25] <puppetmaster> your hardware doesn't need restricted driver
[16:25] <puppetmaster> ?
[16:25] <YeTr2_> eyyYo: direct X in wine isn't quite perfect yet.
[16:26] <puppetmaster> So what should I do?
[16:26] <Pici> puppetmaster: And can you change your screen settings in System>Administration>Screens & Graphics (I think, I dont have a gui in front of me)
[16:26] <puppetmaster> yes
[16:27] <alimoe> hey all
[16:27] <eyyYo> YeTr2_, i know. The thing is, it worked before, but then i (as stupid as i am) updated the nvidia drivers, from the nvidia site. I've reinstalled back to the old drivers, but it doesnt work now.
[16:27] <Pici> puppetmaster: and?
[16:27] <puppetmaster> but I can't determine which driver i should choose for asus p4v8x-mx?
[16:27] <alimoe> what is ip config in ubuntu?
[16:27] <jrib> alimoe: ifconfig
[16:27] <Pici> puppetmaster: can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw please?
[16:27] <Pici> !paste | puppetmaster
[16:27] <ubotu> puppetmaster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:27] <alimoe> thnx jrib
[16:28] <mnoptre> woah didnt know bout that!!!
[16:28] <Pici> mnoptre: hm?
[16:28] <puppetmaster> ok
[16:28] <mnoptre> was thinkin of writin a shell script for apt-get and give parameters to it
[16:28] <whileimhere> !w32codecs
[16:28] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[16:29] <mnoptre> whats hm??
[16:30] <puppetmaster> I copied it how do i past it without flooding the channel
[16:30] <Pici> !paste | puppetmaster read this
[16:30] <ubotu> puppetmaster read this: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:30] <puppetmaster> puppetmaster-desktop
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     description: Desktop Computer
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     product: P4V8X-MX
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     vendor: System manufacturer
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     version: 1.00
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     serial: 00000000
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     width: 32 bits
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3
[16:30] <puppetmaster>     configuration: chassis=desktop uuid=00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
[16:30] <JiminyJones> jesus :\
[16:30] <geirha> mnoptre: in the context Pici wrote it, "hm?" means "what are you talking about?"
[16:30] <Pici> mnoptre: dont mind me, I thought you were responding to me.
[16:31] <JiminyJones> i'm looking for a chess game that supports undoing moves
[16:31] <mnoptre> np..man..
[16:31] <Pici> JiminyJones: Have you tried asking in ##linux?
[16:31] <puppetmaster>      *-cpu
[16:31] <puppetmaster>           description: CPU
[16:31] <puppetmaster>           product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz
[16:31] <puppetmaster>           vendor: Intel Corp.
[16:31] <puppetmaster>           physical id: 4
[16:31] <puppetmaster>           bus info: cpu@0
[16:31] <puppetmaster>           version: 15.2.7
[16:31] <misanthrop> hi i have a bcm943xx wlan card in my hp nx6310. ubuntu installed the firmware, but device dont work. i get no scan results.
[16:32] <JiminyJones> Pici: well, i'm looking for one for ubuntu
[16:32]  * AverageJoe says fuck i dont know wat to do now... errrrr
[16:32] <Pici> !language | AverageJoe
[16:32] <ubotu> AverageJoe: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:32] <mnoptre> i have installd beryl for a while now..but i cant seem to configure it..does my ATI radeon have somethin to do?
[16:32] <JiminyJones> Pici: i mean, that preferably has a .deb cause i hate compiling
[16:32] <Pici> JiminyJones: I know, but maybe they'll be able to suggest something that perhaps has an Ubuntu package.
[16:32] <JiminyJones> Pici: i'll try going there
[16:32] <misanthrop> how do i get it work?
[16:33] <Lunks> Is obexpushd the right package to download for receive files on gutsy?
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 product: UniChrome Pro IGP
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 physical id: 0
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 version: 01
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 width: 32 bits
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 clock: 66MHz
[16:33] <puppetmaster>                 capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga bus_master cap_list
[16:33]  * Pici sighs
[16:34] <misanthrop> my wlan dont work. maybe gutsy installed the wrong firmware.
[16:34] <geirha> he sure is persistant
[16:34] <dgjones> how long is that paste?
[16:34]  * dev_n00b passes out nachos
[16:34] <Pici> !paste > puppetmaster (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:34] <Pici> dgjones: its lshw, its probably pretty long
[16:34] <YeTr2_> that would be what pastebin is for.
[16:35] <h1st0> didn't ubuntu have a smaller iso somewhere on the mirrors?
[16:35] <niux> problem: $ su
[16:35] <niux> Segmentation fault
[16:35] <niux>  - anyone know how to fix that?
[16:35] <Pici> !minimal | h1st0
[16:35] <ubotu> h1st0: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:35] <h1st0> They used to have a netinstall image on there somewhere I just can't remember were it was.
[16:35] <dgjones> Pici, I thought thats what it looked like, probably still be going in half an hour
[16:35] <YeTr2_> niux: ldconfig maybe
[16:35] <niux> YeTr2_: what am i looking for in ldconfig
[16:36] <YeTr2_> niux: I mean just run it.,
[16:36] <niux> doh:P
[16:36] <h1st0> ty Pici
[16:36] <h1st0> Now I just have to get past my orinoco woes
[16:36] <_Roman> I am running 7.10 using an Nvidia Geforce 4 mx440 with 64mb ram.  I am getting the nvidia black window bug when using compiz.  Is it possible to get compiz working correctly using this video card?
[16:36] <Syncoder> #ubuntu-ru
[16:36] <YeTr2_> niux: if not, maybe a reboot, and if not still, try to get your system updated. then lastly that doesn't involve much of any technical skill, reinstall ubuntu
[16:36] <Lunks> _Roman: try to run the nvidia-xconfig with --enable-argb-visuals
[16:37] <Lunks> let me check if it's correct
[16:37] <niux> YeTr2_: i have only update left to try then.. and was really hoping to avoid the last option. but thanks
[16:37] <Lunks> _Roman: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[16:37] <_Roman> Lunks: thanks, I will try that
[16:37] <YeTr2_> Lunks: what version of nvidia binary is ubuntu up to now?
[16:38] <Lunks> YeTr2_: I believe they're still on 96.31
[16:38] <YeTr2_> Lunks: because geforce4 doesn't work with 97xx
[16:38] <h1st0> Is there some bug with the installer and orinoco cards or something?
[16:38] <Lunks> didn't know it
[16:38] <Lunks> I'm on the same video card
[16:38] <Lunks> And I'm running gutsy, so it must work. :P
[16:38] <YeTr2_> Lunks: geforce 3 & 4 series cards are dropped in the 97.xx drivers and beyond.
[16:39] <Lunks> sad to hear it, YeTr2_
[16:39] <YeTr2_> just like geforce 1 & 2 back in the 74.xx
[16:39] <Lunks> I have an FX 5200 which works much better on 169.04
[16:40] <ray_> my advanced desktop effects wont enable, it says they cant. i have my FGLRX drivers enabled for ATi video card, and i have compiz installed where might my issue be?
[16:41] <Pici> sorry for the spam
[16:41] <YeTr2_> it's the musical operator game!
[16:42] <rajiv_nair> hi:)
[16:42] <ray_> my advanced desktop effects wont enable, it says they cant. i have my FGLRX drivers enabled for ATi video card, and i have compiz installed where might my issue be? anyone?
[16:42] <Pici> ray_: What video card?
[16:42] <lgc> Hi! My gutsy refuses to mount my home. It says the resource is busy oro something like that. Ideas?
[16:42] <ray_> ati radion 9800 m10
[16:42] <rajiv_nair> ray_: u need to install XGL
[16:43] <rajiv_nair> ray_: install the package xserver-xgl and try again
[16:44] <Skrat> Guys!
[16:44] <Skrat> How do i remap my keyboard?
[16:44] <Skrat> Where be the file to edits...
[16:44] <JiminyJones> Skrat: remap...as in what?
[16:44] <mnoptre> hey rajiv!!!
[16:44] <ray_> rajiv_nair: i restartx after install correct?
[16:44] <Skrat> As in,
[16:44] <rajiv_nair> ray_:yes
[16:45] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre:hey :)
[16:45] <Skrat> Uhm, i use an apple laptop, and i switch, and i want to use the same keys
[16:45] <ray_> back in a few to let you know the out come thank you
[16:45] <Skrat> make apple key the control key.. nad stuff
[16:45] <rajiv_nair> ray_:alrightey. good luck:D
[16:45] <mnoptre> i was thinkin of writin a shll script for apt-get and 2 parameters ar sent to it..
[16:45] <Skrat> Like, this: ~   Isn't where it is when i run OSX. And i wanna change that... for example. :)
[16:46] <mnoptre> how do i go bout it
[16:46] <Dr_willis> mneptok,  i would suggest a read of the 'advanced bash scripting guide'
[16:46] <Dr_willis> !abs
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:46] <Dr_willis> !find abs
[16:46] <ubotu> Found: abuse-frabs, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl, libdbix-abstract-perl, libemail-abstract-perl (and 3 others)
[16:46] <mnoptre> oki..thx willis
[16:46] <Dr_willis> Darn it - what is the package name.. abs-guide or somthing.
[16:46] <Dr_willis> or get it at tldp.org :)
[16:47] <Peaker> Hey, I had accidentally set some files on /usr to be owned by me instead of root (not even sure when), so I used: chown root:root -R /usr ->
[16:47] <Peaker> this made sudo lose its "suid" bit
[16:47] <LordLimeca1> good morning everyone :)
[16:47] <Peaker> any way to fix this, except booting from a rescue CD?
[16:48] <Pici> Peaker: No, I suggest a backup and reinstall.
[16:48] <Peaker> Pici: Why?
[16:48] <Dr_willis> Peaker,  using -R that way.. was not a good idea... it  just messed with everything in /usr some of which might of been owned by various serivces...
[16:48] <Peaker> I guess I can use "init=/bin/bash" to grub
[16:48] <Peaker> Dr_willis: can you find /usr -not -user root ?
[16:48] <LordLimeca1> I have a client who needs some kiosks set up, and i was curious as to what my best options would be (ie, should i use an ubuntu live CD? can it be customized?  Is there another distro which would be better for this?)  If anyone has any thoughts, i would appreciate it greatly
[16:49] <rajiv_nair> ray_: did it work?
[16:49] <Dr_willis> Peaker,  if you think its ONLY sudo thats messed up. then using the live cd and chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo  - Good luck.
[16:49] <Radi01> lol
[16:49] <mnoptre> can i put in a Bot extension to Gaim..
[16:49] <Radi01> time 4 an install.
[16:50] <Peaker> Dr_willis: Anything that is missing suid bit I can fix later
[16:50] <Dr_willis> drwxrwsr-x   6 root src   4096 2007-10-12 01:24 src     but thats the group. :)  so that may not matter. :)
[16:50] <Peaker> Dr_willis: I don't want to reinstall :-(
[16:50] <pussfeller> i was upgrading to gutsy and the update manager crashed almost the whole way thru, how do i make all the packages keep installing?
[16:50] <Dr_willis> i have learned to be very very very very carefull with using the -R stuff :)
[16:50] <alimoe> anyone who knows a video converter?
[16:50] <pike_> LordLimeca1: what should they be able to do?
[16:50] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[16:50] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[16:50] <lgc> Dr_willis, hi. Perhaps you can help me with problem...
[16:50] <ray_> rajiv_nair: no it didnt and i got an update info bubble hat says xgl will likly fail, and still it wont enable my advanced desktop effects
[16:50] <Dr_willis> alimoe,  avidemux
[16:50] <mridkash> hi ya, I want to make a live pen drive to install ubuntu, please guide
[16:51] <tiagosab> Hi! I am trying to set up an ubuntu pbuilder in a debian box but it can't find needed packages from universe (kbd). Any idea?
[16:51] <Pici> !install | mridkash
[16:51] <ubotu> mridkash: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[16:51] <Radi01> avidmux is great.
[16:51] <alimoe> thnx Dr_willis
[16:51] <Boglizk> Can anyone help me upgrade XMMS?
[16:51] <rajiv_nair> ray_: maybe u could try AIGLX with the open source radeon driver
[16:51] <Radi01> alimoe
[16:51] <LordLimeca1> pike_: they will need office software, openoffice should be sufficient, they will need internet, and printing.  They will be on their own subnet with only 1 printer available, and we would like to restrict access to harddrive, or at the very least have a no-hassle system (hence live cd)
[16:51] <Peaker> Dr_willis: Can you please tell me if you have anything under /usr that does not belong to root? so I know how borked I am?
[16:51] <Dr_willis> Boglizk,  you may want to try some of the other media players out.
[16:51] <rajiv_nair> ray_: uninstall the fglrx driver and chek whether destop fx work
[16:51] <alimoe> Radi01: thnx
[16:51] <Dr_willis> Peaker,  just a fast scan shows that src dir. but thats not the owner..
[16:51] <ray_> i know what i did i went to ATI and go the driver from there
[16:51] <Learning-Ubuntu> mridkash, You could further check out pendrivelinux.com I think
[16:52] <LordLimeca1> only real possible snag is the printer is a canon imagerunner which requires a password to be input @ print, and i am unsure if ubuntu supports it....
[16:52] <Radi01> hey alimoe want the ubuntu link?
[16:52] <Peaker> Dr_willis: who owns src?
[16:52] <pike_> LordLimeca1: you could use a chroot env and setup something that created a temp user for each session then archived their activiy if you need that
[16:52] <Boglizk> uhm.. well.. i saw that XMMS recently had an update for the first time in a while... I wanted to see it
[16:52] <Dr_willis> Peaker,  -rwsr-sr-x  1 daemon daemon    38464 2007-02-20 08:41 at
[16:52] <Dr_willis> drwxrwsr-x   6 root src   4096 2007-10-12 01:24 src     but thats the group. :)  so that may not matter. :)
[16:52] <rajiv_nair> ray_: whats ur radeon model again?
[16:52] <alimoe> yeah sure, Radi01
[16:52] <Peaker> Dr_willis: damn. I hate Unix :P
[16:52] <LordLimeca1> pike_: is a live CD not a do-able option then?
[16:52] <Radi01> k
[16:52] <ray_> radion 9800 mobile 10
[16:52] <Peaker> Dr_willis: Software is in such a a sad state these days :-(
[16:52] <LordLimeca1> ideally i could present this idea without having to touch harddrive at all
[16:52] <lgc> Dr_willis, ??
[16:53] <mridkash> thanks
[16:53] <Radi01> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[16:53] <Radi01> it is there
[16:53] <pike_> LordLimeca1: i wouldnt trust it out of the box i mean all they would need to do is reset power or something right to get full rights?
[16:53] <rajiv_nair> ray_: u dont need tthe fglrx driver
[16:53] <Dr_willis> lgc,  its best to just ask... and see who all can help
[16:54] <LordLimeca1> pike_: true, but OTOH a live cd is attractive because theres no real way to muck up the system short of taking the disk out and hiding it...
[16:54] <rajiv_nair> ray_: the open source radeon driver(the one thats installed by default) in ubuntu will do
[16:54] <Dr_willis> well peaker left befor i could anseer him.. oh well.
[16:54] <ray_> rajiv_nair: but then i dont get 3d accelleration
[16:54] <rajiv_nair> ray_: the community page says u do
[16:54] <Bikerbob> oh is this a talk about the restricted ati radon driver?
[16:54] <rajiv_nair> ray_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%28radeon%29
[16:54] <alimoe> Radi01: thnx
[16:54] <Radi01> k
[16:54] <lgc> Dr_willis, I did: My gutsy refuses to mount my home. It says it's busy or something like that. It all screwed up after a hibernation.
[16:54] <LordLimeca1> if i were to go the chroot route, how exactly would i begin/what is this process called?
[16:55] <pike_> !chroot | LordLimeca1 might be a good starting spot
[16:55] <ubotu> LordLimeca1 might be a good starting spot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[16:55] <Dr_willis> lgc,  i neever use hibernation. Did you try doing a normal reboot? if /home is on its own partition you may need to fsck it to verify the filesystem is good.
[16:55] <pike_> LordLimeca1: nm hold on
[16:55] <Boglizk> ./configure tells me glib-config doesn't exist. How do i fix that?
[16:56] <JiminyJones> i can't run xboard, it crashes with an error message when i start it
[16:56] <ikonia> Boglizk: does it exist
[16:56] <Bikerbob> good like rajiv_nair thanks
[16:56] <Bikerbob> link
[16:56] <rajiv_nair> bikerbob: no problem :)
[16:56] <Boglizk> ikonia: No idea... GLIB sure does.. i even compiled a minute ago to make sure
[16:56] <Bikerbob> I just came on looking for the same thing.
[16:56] <mnoptre> rajiv u using beryl...
[16:56] <ikonia> Boglizk why the heck are you compiling glib !
[16:56] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: no compiz fusion
[16:56] <pike_> LordLimeca1: maybe consider kiosktool also and kubuntu though i havent used it myself
[16:57] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: why ?
[16:57] <ikonia> Boglizk: do you realise what that does to your system  ?
[16:57] <mnoptre> :O
[16:57] <Boglizk> ikonia: Nope
[16:57] <Pici> !beryl | please read this mnoptre
[16:57] <ubotu> please read this mnoptre: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[16:57] <ikonia> Boglizk: you've made a horrid mistake
[16:57] <FalandA> guys, i m trying to install samba,
[16:57] <mnoptre> ihave installed it..but cant seem to configure it on my dell with ATI
[16:57] <Peaker> Ok, I set suid to ug+s via "init=/bin/bash" in grub, and now I seem to be fine :)
[16:57] <ikonia> Boglizk: Iwould re-install ubuntu now if I was you
[16:57] <FalandA> but how can i know my netbios name of the win machine?
[16:57] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: u using feisty?
[16:57] <Peaker> ofcourse my users/groups on /usr are b0rked, but nothing serious so far :)
[16:57] <mnoptre> yup
[16:58] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: install beryl-manager from synaptic
[16:58] <misanthrop> if i use ndiswrapper, do i need the card-firmware? do the module be loaded?
[16:58] <Bikerbob> my ubuntu install does not find my monitor or my ati 9600 card.
[16:58] <mnoptre> oki
[16:58] <lgc> Dr_willis, after a normal reboot it still doesn't want to mount it. But during the startup after the hibernation I got a "[....] device-mapper:table:254:3: linear:dm-linear:Device lookup failure" which kept flooding my screen...
[16:58] <Pici> Peaker: I'm not sure I want to know what your definition of serious is then ;)
[16:59] <pike_> FalandA: nmblookup -A IP i believe
[16:59] <Radi01> I tried the chown rrot thing..it will mess ya up good.
[16:59] <FalandA> pike_:  ok i ll try
[16:59] <mnoptre> nwhat are these emerald themes.... for compiz-fusion
[16:59] <Peaker> Pici: well, everything *seems* to work so far :)
[16:59] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: emerald u can use it with beryl/compiz-fusion
[16:59] <Peaker> Pici: I thought I might b0rk ping/traceroute who need suid root too, but they are not in /usr :)
[17:00] <Radi01> Thank god for sudo.
[17:00] <mnoptre> thx Rajiv... will give it a try
[17:00] <LordLimeca1> pike_: thanks, i was looking @ kiosktool :)  in yer opinion, is ubuntu the distro i wanna be using for this?  or would something like knoppix be more suited
[17:00] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: ok :)
[17:01] <freak124> I know it's a stupid question, but what directory am I in when I open the terminal?
[17:01] <ikonia> freak124 your home
[17:01] <kane77> freak124, /home/<your username>
[17:02] <pike_> LordLimeca1: i do like ubuntu or debian just for managability but im sure other distro users would argue that
[17:02] <Dr_willis> freak124,  of course it may matter how you opened the terminal.
[17:02] <Dr_willis> freak124,  'pwd' shows the current dir
[17:02] <freak124> ok
[17:02] <rajiv_nair> Dr_willis: didnt knw that..thnx :)
[17:03] <Dr_willis> rajiv_nair,  bash FUNdaMENTALs :)
[17:03] <hackeron> quick question, will the amd64 version of ubuntu work on a core 2 duo (E6300) cpu?
[17:03] <rajiv_nair> Dr_willis: me quite a newbie when it comes to bash ;)
[17:03] <freak124> and when I want to change to another directory, that's inside this directory, do I type cd Music?
[17:03] <FalandA> sudo chmod 0777 /media/samba/
[17:03] <FalandA> this command doesnt work guys
[17:03] <Boglizk> ikonia: Sorry, my shell lagged up. Could you explain exactly what could happen?
[17:03] <FalandA> someone can help me?
[17:04] <rajiv_nair> !help | FalandA
[17:04] <ubotu> FalandA: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:04] <lgc> Dr_willis, fsck comes up with 'Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda6. Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?'
[17:04] <freak124> ok ty
[17:04] <arash> Hi, it seems the ownership for files in /dev/ (/dev/vboxsrv is  the issue in my case) are automatically turned back to root if you change them (eventually). How can I change the permission for one of those files permanently?
[17:04] <FalandA> rajiv_nair: i need help installation of samba, one command doesnt work :S
[17:05] <rajiv_nair> Falanda: commands....Dr_Willis is the man :D
[17:05] <chrisg> hmm
[17:05] <Dr_willis> lgc,  i would suggest trying to fsck it from a live cd.
[17:05] <doseryder> Hi guys
[17:05] <FalandA> :D
[17:05] <FalandA> how can i make a folder on Media folder ?
[17:05] <Radi01> sudo touch /forcefsck                        then reboot.
[17:05] <lgc> Radi01, you talking to me?
[17:05] <Dr_willis> FalandA,  i would suggest reading the 'using samba' book thats in the repos.  -  It has a lot of options that may make your chmod command not needed.
[17:06] <kane77> how do I pass parameters to kernel?
[17:06] <Radi01> if fsck is what you are looking 4  yes
[17:06]  * Dr_willis will bbl - wife has me moving furniture
[17:06]  * dev_n00b mourns for Dr_willis
[17:06] <lgc> Radi01, what is that supposed to do?
[17:06] <FalandA> Dr_willis: i read it but i have a problem with the commands on the book
[17:06] <Radi01> c  fsck at boot
[17:06] <doseryder> I'm trying to install dmraid.   I'm trying to follow this howto http://www.dersoldat.org/?page_id=358 mostly b/c its Gutsy specific
[17:07] <doseryder> BUT it seems like dmraid is NOT in the repo
[17:07] <lgc> Radi01, let me try that. Thanks.
[17:07] <Radi01> k
[17:07] <Radi01> it works
[17:07]  * slackern hears screams of pain and agony, almost like someone is moving around furniture...
[17:07] <doseryder> I did apt-get update already but still it couldn't find the package
[17:07] <lgc> Dr_willis, thanks. I'll do what you suggest.
[17:07] <Lunks> How can I download amr codec for ubuntu?
[17:07] <doseryder> I FIND IT ODD, b/c it should be in there as this suggest http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/dmraid
[17:07] <Boglizk> After upgrading to 7.10, special effect removes the 'bar' thats above all windows (all of it, including _ [] and X)
[17:07] <rajiv_nair> Dr_willis is a bit busy screaming with pain and agony ;)
[17:08] <slackern> ^^
[17:08] <petroviciva2> hi
[17:08] <doseryder> Help me out my fellow Ubuntu friends
[17:08] <Lunks> How can I download amr codec for ubuntu?
[17:08] <Radi01> amarok?
[17:09] <rajiv_nair> whats amr?
[17:09] <Boglizk> AMR is an audio codec..mainly used for like.. cellphone movies
[17:09] <Lunks> rajiv_nair: codec used on most cellphones
[17:09] <slackern> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Multi-Rate
[17:09] <petroviciva2> i need an advice
[17:09] <petroviciva2>  i am split between 2 HP laptops to buy, both are HP 6710b,
[17:09] <petroviciva2>  first with intel and second with broadcom WLAN, which to choose?
[17:09] <rajiv_nair> ohh,,thanx didnt know :)
[17:10] <pike_> petroviciva2: asus
[17:10] <bruenig> petroviciva2, intel
[17:10] <pike_> petroviciva2: do you know the exact intel chipset? some of the new ones are pretty decent
[17:10] <pike_> petroviciva2: and open source driver
[17:11] <petroviciva2> it's Mobile Intel 965GM Express
[17:11] <pike_> petroviciva2: id go with that myself
[17:11] <freak124> does anyone know a linux equivalent for AoA audio extractor? It's a program to rip the sound of movie files.
[17:11] <rajiv_nair> petroviciva2: i think a recent intel chipset has been blacklisted by compiz-fusion
[17:11] <petroviciva2> pike: with hp6710b?
[17:12] <mnoptre> do i have drivers for cordless mouse and keyboard for ubuntu
[17:12] <slackern> Lunks, http://www.penguin.cz/~utx/amr the codecs seems to be protected by licenses and stuff but most is on that webpage
[17:12] <pike_> petroviciva2: well i personally dont care for hp lappys but thats just personal prejudice
[17:12] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: doesent work out of the box?
[17:12] <pike_> petroviciva2: broadcom bad intel good
[17:12] <petroviciva2> thank you
[17:12] <kane77> petroviciva2, I have HP with broadcom wifi and it's not working 100% I managed to get it working, but not under all circumstances...
[17:13] <Majkball> Where do I find the "program-folders"?
[17:13] <arash> Hi, it seems the ownership for files in /dev/ (/dev/vboxsrv is  the issue in my case) are automatically turned back to root if you change them (eventually). How can I change the permission for one of those files permanently?
[17:13] <mnoptre> nope...not even detected..got a cheap chinese kit..some how doesnt have linux support
[17:13] <Majkball> I need to locate /eclipse/plugins... but don't find anything in /usr/bin
[17:13] <doseryder> Arash, yo
[17:13] <rajiv_nair> mnoptre: oh
[17:13] <arash> doseryder: Hi!
[17:13] <pike_> Majkball: in linux this is a little dif than windows. you have bin dirs and lib dirs that all programs use
[17:13] <petroviciva2> kane77: that warries me
[17:13] <kane77> Majkball, I don't use eclipse but I'd try ~/.eclipse
[17:13] <pike_> Majkball: oh sorry nevermind :)
[17:14] <sanguisdex> how can I restart my alsa service?
[17:14] <doseryder> arash, you know who dis is right?
[17:14] <sanguisdex> all sound is dead
[17:14] <arash> doseryder: no :(
[17:14] <pike_> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart   i think
[17:14] <rajiv_nair> sanguisdex: system->administration->services
[17:14] <doseryder> arash, U of T arash?
[17:14] <alimoe> cant i change my theme?
[17:14] <petroviciva2> what laptop's manufacturer you can sugest me
[17:14] <Majkball> thnx
[17:15] <pike_> petroviciva2: /join #ubuntu-offtopic real quick i wouldnt mind chatting about this
[17:15] <kane77> petroviciva2, but the intel graphics is good enough for me.. I use compiz fusion extensively ;)
[17:15] <arash> doseryder: eh, what?
[17:15] <Dr_willis> petroviciva2,  those dell laptops  i hear are decent. :) just gotta watch for the sales.
[17:15] <Radi01> appearance/alamoe
[17:15] <santor> now i need to add asterisk in for pstn termination!
[17:15] <santor> oops wrong window
[17:15] <alimoe> thnx Radi01
[17:15] <Radi01> k
[17:15] <gordonjcp> santor: asterisk ftw
[17:16] <santor> wrong chat
[17:16] <santor> asterisk is a opensource pbx
[17:16] <Ximal> Anyone able to help with lamp ? please ? I'm having an issue with apache..
[17:16] <santor> but i typed in the wrong chat
[17:16] <santor> srry
[17:17] <santor> Ximal, whats your issue
[17:17] <Ximal> I'm having trouble adjusting my apache index file ..
[17:17] <Ximal> I dunno how to make it so people don't see the directory listing..
[17:18] <hwilde> Ximal, turn off read permissions on the directory
[17:18] <doseryder> I'm trying to install dmraid.   I'm trying to follow this howto http://www.dersoldat.org/?page_id=358 mostly b/c its Gutsy specific
[17:18] <Ximal> Yep,,, I'm brand new... at this administration thing..
[17:18] <Ximal> how ?
[17:18] <doseryder> BUT it seems like dmraid is NOT in the repo
[17:18] <Ximal> I dunno how to configure it hwilde ?
[17:18] <doseryder>  I did apt-get update already but still it couldn't find the package
[17:18] <doseryder>  I FIND IT ODD, b/c it should be in there as this suggest http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/dmraid
[17:18] <csmanx> hey there
[17:18] <csmanx> =)
[17:19] <rajiv_nair> csmanx: hi
[17:19] <csmanx> is jumping from 2gb to 4gb in a laptop worth the 100 extra bucks?
[17:19] <mridkash> while listening music in Amarok I open a webpage containing flash content and Amarok hangs, says device busy, how to solve this please
[17:19] <hwilde> Ximal, cd ..    then chmod a-r <directory>
[17:19] <rajiv_nair> csmanx: they say extra memory never hurts
[17:19] <sanguisdex> ok so I reset alsa, what else do I need to fix if sound in flash has crashed, and banshee siply won't play
[17:19] <Ximal> i dunno what directory it's coming from
[17:19] <hwilde> !find dmraid gutsy
[17:19] <ubotu> Found: dmraid
[17:19] <pike_> csmanx: im never hurting with 512MB so im going to say no
[17:19] <Ximal> This is the first time i've run apache..
[17:20] <Ximal> ever
[17:20] <santor> dang
[17:20] <Slart> csmanx: as long as you run an operating system that use it
[17:20] <santor> well
[17:20] <hwilde> Ximal, look in your httpd.conf file and fine the working directory of apache.
[17:20] <pike_> csmanx: id spend the money on a really really nice lcd display to dock to
[17:20] <Ximal> AHH
[17:20] <hwilde> !package provides dmraid
[17:20] <Ximal> thanks... brb
[17:20] <FalandA> nobody understand from samba?
[17:20] <Dr_willis> csmanx,  depends on your needs.. and what your long term plans are. :) think of it this way.. if in 6 mo you decide you DO need the more ram.   and have 2, 1gb chips.. they will be useless. If you an get a single 2gb chip. and have an open slot you could put another 2gb in..  well.. :) its all debateable.
[17:20] <hilltop> how can i start gDesklet?
[17:20] <santor> get an apache book from  oreilly books
[17:20] <Slart> csmanx: consider that all that memory will have to be written to the hard drive when/if you hibernate
[17:21] <Ximal> hwilde ... my httpd.conf is blank ?
[17:21] <Slart> Ximal: it's in apache.conf instead
[17:21] <doseryder> hwilde hello, thx for attending to my question :) I'm currently on the gutsy livecd but i can't seem to find dmraid
[17:21] <rajiv_nair> csmanx: unless you own an ATI and hibernate doesnt work that often;)
[17:21] <santor> did you install apache from source?
[17:21] <Dr_willis> I would almost suggest getting the ram now.. since with some laptops adding more can be such a pain.
[17:21] <csmanx> Dr_willis: my needs include permanently using a vmware process while trying to save battery life. Also watch HD clips smoothly while I have my other apps open
[17:21] <santor> or with apt-get
[17:21] <sipior> there's also the consideration of dual-channel memory, two modules are usually better than one
[17:21] <pike_> csmanx: check that the lappy is intel or nvidia and check the wireless chipset  those are the big ones
[17:21] <Dr_willis> If you think you will need the ram.
[17:21] <hwilde> doseryder, what makes you think it is on the livecd
[17:21] <jugimaster> hi there..    - has anyone heard of any problems with Ubuntu detecting a Samsung 226BW (22" wide) display ?
[17:21] <hilltop> how can i run  gDesklets?
[17:21] <Dr_willis> csmanx,  using vmware? get the ram... :)
[17:22] <Slart> I would almost pay $20 extra to get a single memory stick instead of 2 smaller
[17:22] <csmanx> Slart: good poing
[17:22] <csmanx> point
[17:22] <Ximal> hwilde ... umm.. what part of apache2.conf is it under ? what keyword do i look for ?
[17:22] <santor> slart: get the 2 smaller for dualchannel
[17:22] <doseryder> hwilde: what should i do sir?
[17:22] <hwilde> Slart, by the memory stick straight from PNY website,  8G for $80,  16G for $160
[17:22] <csmanx> Dr_willis: 2gigs for my OS and 2gigs for the vm?
[17:22] <Slart> santor: but I lose upgradability (if that is even a word)
[17:22] <hwilde> doseryder, why do you need dmraid?  just go with the livecd setup
[17:22] <Dr_willis> csmanx,  depends on what you are doing.. vmware loves ram. :)
[17:23] <csmanx> pike_: my lappy is intel, and I have geforce go dedicated video
[17:23] <santor> Slart: if you need that much ram performance must be a focus
[17:23] <Dr_willis> csmanx,  i toy with vmware and only 2gb ram on my laptop. but thats all it can handle.
[17:23] <hwilde> Ximal, you need to read some tutorials on how to configure apache.
[17:23] <Ximal> ahh
[17:23] <csmanx> hmmm
[17:23] <Ximal> got a link ?
[17:23] <Slart> santor: It's not for me.. it's for cdmsnx's laptop =)
[17:23] <Ximal> please
[17:23] <hwilde> !apache | Ximal
[17:23] <ubotu> Ximal: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:23] <csmanx> and since this is my desktop replacement, I guess I should go for 4gigs =P
[17:24] <santor> Slart, the 8 or 16 gigs!
[17:24] <santor> for a laptop
[17:24] <Dr_willis> csmanx,  yep. You may save some $$ by waiting and adding it later.. but 1 - it may be  pain to add.. and 2. it may not be that much cheaper in 6 mo.
[17:24] <Radi01> I thought that was allot of ram for a lappy.
[17:24] <TMH_> hi. I need to use php4, but php5 is only available in the ubuntu apt repositories. Is there a php4 deb package i can install?
[17:24] <doseryder> hwilde: I was following  howto http://www.dersoldat.org/?page_id=358  I NEED DMRAID (trust me).  Its in the Ubuntu repo but how come after apt-get update it's still sayin it could not find the package ???
[17:24] <csmanx> Dr_willis: is this a good moment to buy ram?
[17:24] <FalandA> samba doesnt accept my username and password on the Windows , what should i do ?
[17:24] <santor> why does anyone need that much ram in a laptop???
[17:25] <Dr_willis> csmanx,  no idea.  - plus laptops are a bit differnt :)  i maxed my old laptop out 5 months ago..
[17:25] <santor> i have 2 gigs  and that seems a little  overkill for Kubuntu
[17:25] <csmanx> santor: when the laptop is a desktop replacement, and when you use vmware often
[17:25] <Dr_willis> santor,  hes planing on using vmware a lot it seems.
[17:25] <santor> al vmware
[17:25] <santor> ah
[17:25] <santor> ic
[17:25]  * Slart thinks that since he isn't about to buy RAM this would be a good time to do it.. when I'm about to buy more RAM the 2 RAM factories in the world usually explode.. or just vanish
[17:25] <arash> Hi, it seems the ownership for files in /dev/ (/dev/vboxsrv is  the issue in my case) are automatically turned back to root if you change them (eventually). How can I change the permission for one of those files permanently?
[17:25] <csmanx> and I don't usually hibernate it =P
[17:25] <dev_n00b> lol @ Slart
[17:26] <santor> well, i have not had good experience wiht PNY i'd go with kingston or corsair
[17:26] <Dr_willis> given all the issues i heear in here with people and hibernation.. i dont hibernate either.
[17:26] <santor> and newegg has good prices
[17:26] <dev_n00b> I can hibernate fine under 7.10, thankfully
[17:26] <hilltop> where is the icon of gDesklets located?
[17:26] <Slart> I bought 3 pairs of corsair memory last time.. all broken
[17:26] <csmanx> santor: I'm going for Crucial
[17:26] <Radi01> I never liked pny..kensingson is pretty good.
[17:26] <santor> but maby all the pny hardware i've used was just bad by chance
[17:27] <Radi01> pny always locked up.
[17:27] <santor> pny is cheap hardware
[17:27] <santor> i've had there ram and vid cards
[17:27] <kidem_> question: my ubuntu is crashing alot, how do i trouble shoot this
[17:27] <Slart> whatever brand you chose there will always be someone who hates'em
[17:27] <csmanx> ha
[17:27] <Learning-Ubuntu> hilltop, Aplications > Accessories > gdesklets?
[17:27] <santor> and had more unstability with there hardware
[17:27] <eth01> santor: not really, i've used them for years and years *had no probs*
[17:27] <santor> wel
[17:27] <Slart> kidem_: check the logs.. syslog at /var/log/syslog or kernel log /var/log/kernel.log
[17:27] <kidem_> thx
[17:27] <santor> i'm just telling my experiences
[17:28] <sipior> kidem_: are you able to log into the system remotely? perhaps only X has died
[17:28] <Slart> kidem_: if you find anything that seems to be weird.. try googling for the error.. or asking here
[17:28] <santor> a desktop i used to have was quite unstable, it had pny memory and videocard, cause they where cheap
[17:28] <Radi01> Pay the xtra few bucks and get good ram..or pat 2wice ;ater.
[17:28] <kidem_> not really error it just stops responding
[17:28] <santor> i upgraded to kingston ram and an evga video card and the instability went away
[17:28] <Dr_willis> Like the reviews done on products  100 people give it a 10.. and one guy gives it a 1. because his item was DOA. :) so he never actually used the device anyway...
[17:28] <Dr_willis> heh.
[17:28] <kidem_> screen goes blank and little hour glass thing spins
[17:28] <Slart> kidem_: just to get it out of the way before you go any further.. overheating?
[17:28] <kidem_> nope vista runs fine
[17:29] <Radi01> My keyboard is dyslexic today.
[17:29] <kidem_> dula boot
[17:29] <doseryder> hwilde: can you teach me how i could get dmraid with apt-get?
[17:29] <Slart> kidem_: it's happening at random? or when you do something special?
[17:29] <sanguisdex> is there a way to restart jackd
[17:30] <kidem_> random
[17:30] <gvsa123> can anyone tell me how to specify a partition to mount only when certain accounts login and not the rest
[17:30] <Slart> sanguisdex: you can't do "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" or something similar?
[17:30] <kidem_> i was thinking driver issue but i dont know
[17:30] <Slart> sorry.. /etc/init.d/jackd restart
[17:30] <hwilde> doseryder, apt-get install dmraid
[17:31] <Slart> kidem_: might be..  try to see if you can make it crash.. by running some special software or something.. makes it easier to diagnose
[17:32] <kidem_> k
[17:32] <doseryder> hwilde: it keep saying "Couldn't find package dmraid"
[17:32] <Slart> !info dmraid
[17:32] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc13-2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 181 kB, installed size 612 kB
[17:32] <Slart> doseryder: have you enabled universe?
[17:32] <Slart> !universe
[17:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[17:33] <sipior> gvsa123: you'd have to write a pam handler to do that, i think. simpler might be to modify /etc/fstab and add a user=<foo> option, so that only that user can mount the volume
[17:33] <gvsa123> sipior: great... could you tell me the format for a user named: xyz
[17:34] <getPancakes> pulseaudio won't start, and complains:  pulseaudio[7387]: main.c: Root priviliges required.
[17:34] <getPancakes> this seems to address my problem. http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/97
[17:34] <gvsa123> sipior: syntax i mean... also can i specify it by group and not by user?
[17:34] <sipior> gvsa123: under the options column, simply add user=xyz to the list.
[17:35] <gvsa123> sipior: the options column is where "defaults" is right? or nouser or noauto
[17:35] <sipior> gvsa123: yes, group is possible, but i believe the group has to own the device in question
[17:35] <scoyng> .fm
[17:36] <sipior> gvsa123: do a "man mount" for all the gory details
[17:36] <gvsa123> sipior: ah yes... i just saw in the man pages
[17:36] <Timpani> Hi everyone.  My 7.10 livecd installation stalls with a white cursor on a black screen. In safe graphics mode, I get "Running local boot scripts" as 'ok' and then just a blinking cursor. Any ideas?
[17:36] <gvsa123> sipior: yeah... problem is a lot of the contents in the man pages i do not understand outright... :)
[17:36] <gvsa123> sipior: thanks alot
[17:36] <sipior> gvsa123: man fstab will give you the syntax of the file as well
[17:36] <okeefenokee> Hi folks. I'm fooling around with my latest installation of Gutsy Ubuntu. Tell me, why does "sudo echo Test > /var/www/index.html" give me an error, stating that I don't have permissions. I thought that 'sudo' can do everything.
[17:36] <gvsa123> sipior: great
[17:37] <sipior> gvsa123: yeah, man pages take some getting used to, but are well worth the trouble to read. have fun :)
[17:37] <Slart> okeefenokee: I think www might be owned by the user www
[17:37] <okeefenokee> Slart: But am I not working as root when I do a sudo-command?
[17:37] <gvsa123> sipior: oh wait... but with adding user=xyz, will the partition automount when xyz logs in, but not when abc does?
[17:38] <sipior> gvsa123: it won't automount...simply allow user xyz to mount, whilst abc cannot
[17:38] <gvsa123> sipior: and then it unmounts when xyz logs out
[17:38] <gvsa123> sipior: oh... i see...
[17:38] <gvsa123> sipior: and it has to be unmounted when i edit fstab?
[17:39] <Slart> okeefenokee: yes.. but I think being doesn't mean you can do anything.. if you wanted to you could change owner on the www folder and do what you want to it.. but when it's owned by someone else you might not have any rights straight away
[17:39] <sipior> gvsa123: you could write a pam plugin which will do this, but that's some subtle arcanery there
[17:39] <aci215> hi all
[17:39] <aci215> need help
[17:39] <sipior> gvsa123: not necessarily unmounted. just specify the remount option
[17:39] <gvsa123> sipior: probably can't do that.. as i don't know what pam is in the first place lol
[17:39] <sipior> gvsa123: probably safest just to unmount beforehand though
[17:39] <aci215> sipior can helpme
[17:39] <gvsa123> sipior: i see. thanks. i'll try it out first...
[17:40] <hollow87> howdy, im having problems setting up dual monitors with my geforce fx 5200 and 2 CRT montiors when it trys to go to gui it just a blank screen and cant even get a virtual terminal after that have to hard reboot
[17:41] <sipior> aci215: what's yer trouble?
[17:41] <Slart> okeefenokee: hmm.. I just tested my little theory and I might be wrong.. in that case I have no idea why you can't write files in the www-folder
[17:42] <aci215> need help me
[17:42] <arghh2d2> ?
[17:42] <okeefenokee> Slart: Yeah, I know that not every user can do sudo-commands (you have to be an administrative user) but this shouldn't be the case now...
[17:43] <aci215> i dont have
[17:43] <aci215> instaler a program
[17:43] <aci215> sombory speking spanich
[17:43] <aci215> plases
[17:43] <arghh2d2> aci215 have you tried typing: sudo synaptic
[17:44] <arghh2d2> !se
[17:44] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[17:44] <Slart> okeefenokee: I just tried the same thing on my box and could create a test file in the www-folder
[17:44] <arghh2d2> oops
[17:44] <arghh2d2> !es
[17:44] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[17:44] <doseryder> Slart: yea, i should have checked the sources.list first. :>
[17:44] <aci215> thaks
[17:44] <arghh2d2> welcome
[17:44] <aci215> all
[17:44] <okeefenokee> slart: Yup...does gutsy implement some kind of security levels?
[17:45] <Slart> okeefenokee: not that I know of
[17:45] <hollow87> im having problems setting up dual monitors with my geforce fx 5200 and 2 CRT montiors on 7.10. when it trys to go to gui it just a blank screen and cant even get a virtual terminal after that have to hard reboot
[17:45] <okeefenokee> slart: OK...oh, well, i'll poke around some more...
[17:46] <demco> I have logitec 350 usb headphones, and no sound is playing from a youtube/flash video. although it plays from an mp3.. any ideas?
[17:46] <Slart> okeefenokee: let us know if you find anything
[17:46] <ksz2005> hi
[17:46] <okeefenokee> slart: will so do! Thanks for the interest, anyway!
[17:46] <doseryder> sipoir: hello, what's a pam handler?
[17:47] <boris_> is therea any software smilar to freecall for linux, from which u can call landlines for free ?
[17:47] <boris_> there*
[17:47] <rApCi> ö
[17:48] <sipior> doseryder: have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluggable_Authentication_Modules
[17:48] <boris_>  is there any software smilar to freecall for linux, from which u can call landlines for free ?
[17:48] <Slart> boris_: I don't think so.. not for free anyway
[17:48] <boris_> dam
[17:49] <hagna> this manually modified morse package now works with the sound card it's just a Makefile param.  Who should I give it to so that the hordes of users for that package can have it?
[17:49] <ksz2005> سلام
[17:50] <Slart> hagna: send it to the original author of the package
[17:50] <ksz2005> هل يوجد عرب
[17:50] <sipior> ksz2005: wa aleikum salaam
[17:50] <PriceChild> hagna, or mark it as a bug on launchpad.net
[17:50] <hagna> PriceChild: ok
[17:51] <sipior> hmm...anyone want to take a guess at the arabic language support channel code?
[17:51]  * Slart just loves that those weird letters show up as weird letters and not  \1c52*¤!!"#¤ or such
[17:51] <Slart> !pe
[17:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:51] <Slart> !ar
[17:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:51] <Slart> bah.. two strikes.. I'm out
[17:51] <Profanephobia> !arabic
[17:51] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[17:51] <Profanephobia> there ya go
[17:52] <AndyCR> openoffice just today started crashing whenever i try to print
[17:52] <AndyCR> all other apps print fine
[17:52] <AndyCR> i reinstalled OO.o and deleted the settings, nothing
[17:52] <Profanephobia> AndyCR, do you get any errors
[17:53] <demco> any idea how to check why sounds isn't playing from a youtube/flash video?
[17:53] <demco> it works with an mp3 directly
[17:53] <AndyCR> Profanephobia: I ran it from console and get what looks like a list of libraries
[17:53] <AndyCR> at the time of the crash
[17:53] <AndyCR> b578b000-b578c000 r--p 00000000 08:03 11221      /usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MEASUREMENT
[17:53] <AndyCR> etc
[17:54] <sipior> demco: flash player muted?
[17:54] <AndyCR> b5779000-b577a000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 105534     /usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so
[17:54] <AndyCR> tons of it
[17:54] <AndyCR> too much for the console to remember
[17:54] <demco> sipior, in the browser, there appears to be volume
[17:54] <Profanephobia> AndyCR, use pastebin
[17:54] <demco> is there some flash control settings somewhere?
[17:55] <doseryder> !info dmraid
[17:55] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc13-2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 181 kB, installed size 612 kB
[17:56] <strtok> ps ux
[17:56] <strtok> oops
[17:56] <doseryder> sipior: thx
[17:57] <MTecknology> how am I supposed to put evolution out of my sight? I have mail-notification running perfect but... I need to have evolution running in the background... is there any way around it?
[17:57] <jane_> MTecknology,  install alltray
[17:58] <MTecknology> jane_, alltray doesn
[17:58] <MTecknology> 't work w/ compiz
[17:58] <jane_> hm i use alltray
[17:58] <h1st0_> Alright why don't grub vga codes work in gutsy?  Is there some package i'm missing?
[17:59] <demco> linux alltray
[17:59] <AndyCR> Profanephobia: http://pastebin.ca/799476
[18:00] <MTecknology> jane_, with Compiz?
[18:01] <h1st0_> Hello?
[18:01] <MTecknology> Why hasn't anybody come up w/ a try icon plugin yet? :P
[18:02] <AndyCR> MTecknology: i was just wondering that this morning
[18:03] <Fenix|work> Greetings
[18:03] <linux_noobster> hey all
[18:04] <Fenix|work> I have a problem with my ubuntu box and FTP
[18:04] <jane_> MTecknology, i use thunderbird but should work wit evolution too and all the compiz gimmicks yap
[18:04] <root____> Hi Guys
[18:04] <jane_> just start it with f2 alltray evolution
[18:05] <MTecknology> jane_, Thanks :D
[18:05] <RazzoRz> hey folks
[18:07] <h1st0_> Going to try another workaround.
[18:07] <RazzoRz> so i asked a few days back about innotek virtualbox..   had anyone played with this ??
[18:07] <Dr_willis> RazzoRz,  a lot of people use it.
[18:08] <AndyCR> RazzoRz: i use it
[18:08] <FluxD> RazzoRz: whats ur question?
[18:08] <RazzoRz> ok.. my question is..
[18:08] <eth01> it works best on windows.
[18:08] <AndyCR> use it to run xp for the one app that wine wont run
[18:08] <AndyCR> that i use
[18:08] <AndyCR> works fine
[18:09] <RazzoRz> #1 my mic will not work.. is there something i need to add to the vmx file for it to work?
[18:09] <AndyCR> does sound output work?
[18:09] <Noble> so i'm messing around with my xorg.conf... trying to get the picture to look right on my tv... why does 'screens and graphics' keep defaulting to 1024x768?
[18:09] <RazzoRz> Andy: all other sound works
[18:09] <RazzoRz> yes
[18:09] <AndyCR> Not sure then
[18:10] <AndyCR> I had to tell it to use OSS before sound would work
[18:10] <AndyCR> but i havent tried mic
[18:10] <brontos> anyone know how to add a line break in a cell in openoffice calc? alt-enter and ctl-enter are not working.
[18:10] <RazzoRz> ok my second Q is... Games on the host (xp) threw Vbox..
[18:10] <Pici> brontos: if you dont get an answer here, try asking in #openoffice.org
[18:11] <wastrel> hi
[18:11] <brontos> Pici: Thanks I thought I was in there but I didn't have the .org...
[18:11] <brontos> Pici: I will go back there
[18:11] <RazzoRz> is that possible?
[18:11] <FluxD> RazzoRz: gaming is probably not a good idea any example of game u want to play
[18:12] <Dr_willis> 3d Games on a virtual machine  - not a good idea
[18:12] <RazzoRz> FluxD: care to explain
[18:12] <FluxD> RazzoRz: what Dr_willis said
[18:12] <Dr_willis> Popcap games - can work. :) and other not high-demand games
[18:12] <Dr_willis> of coruse most of those can work with wine also.
[18:12] <FluxD> yup
[18:12] <Whitor> RazzoRz: You might want to try WINE
[18:12] <AndyCR> gaming works well with wine, depending on the game
[18:12] <RazzoRz> I C...
[18:12] <FluxD> steam games work fine
[18:12] <Dr_willis> Peggle! :) Bookworm
[18:12] <AndyCR> most valve games play just fine
[18:12] <AndyCR> half-life, half-life 2, counter-strike...
[18:12] <Whitor> WoW works fine
[18:13] <AndyCR> battlefield series works well except for anti-cheat
[18:13] <AndyCR> which locks you out of most servers
[18:13] <Dr_willis> ive never seen WoW work 'fine' :) even on windows.. heh.. but thats not a topic for here.
[18:13] <AndyCR> max payne 1 and 2 work fine
[18:13] <AndyCR> those are the only ones i've tried
[18:13] <Pici> !appdb
[18:13] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:13] <RazzoRz> i c, so is there a www page that will give me more incite for games that can play on ubuntu
[18:13] <Dr_willis> GTA ran at 10x normal speed for me under wine... made it really really hard.
[18:13] <Dr_willis> !games
[18:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[18:14] <ibanez> me wobbly windows are gone
[18:14] <Whitor> Dr_willis: well, if yu cant get WoW to work fine on Windows, you've got other issues you need to deal with
[18:14] <whileimhere> Hi is there a way to boot right into an X session from the GDM without loading KDE or GNOMe ect?
[18:14] <Dr_willis> Whitor,  i delt with them.. by cancling WoW..
[18:14] <Whitor> Dr_willis: Probably a wise move any way you look at it
[18:14] <Dr_willis> Actually my brother got the account banned. :) but same differance.
[18:15] <Robert1> hello, anyone know about any 3rd party repo that provides the lates pidgin release?
[18:15] <Robert1> *latest
[18:15] <RazzoRz> i have seen some really cool youtube vids of ubuntu and some flight sim games, .. just wondering how easy it would be to set up
[18:16] <drewzf> Is it possible to set up wget with https on ubuntu 7.10
[18:16] <drewzf> Trying to install directadmin, it hits the wget on https and fails
[18:17] <Ramphis> My ethernet is not working
[18:17] <Ramphis> I need help with my ethernet connection, please.
[18:18] <MystaMax> Ramphis, are you having troubles getting an IP address?
[18:18] <Dr_willis> Ramphis,  more details.. this wireless? wired?  whats not working.. can you ping the gateway.other machines,,, ect...
[18:18] <MystaMax> ethernet would assume wired connection
[18:18] <Ramphis> I cannot ping
[18:18] <Ramphis> Okay
[18:18] <MystaMax> so you have an IP address?
[18:18] <dad> hi
[18:18] <Dr_willis> MystaMax,  ive learnd its best to not assume anything in here. :)
[18:19] <insllvn> my gnome-panel is using 9.5MB memory seems high to me is that about average?
[18:19] <MystaMax> Dr_willis, good point
[18:19] <Ramphis> My router when I log into Ubuntu, the yellow light of Ethernet is flicking so it's ok, but Ubuntu is not detecting it at all.
[18:19] <Dr_willis> 'is the cable plugged in' 'is the power on'  :)
[18:19] <sipior> insllvn: sounds about right
[18:19] <insllvn> hmmm ok
[18:19] <Agiofws> wow
[18:19] <Agiofws> hello
[18:19] <insllvn> hello
[18:19] <Ramphis> I have an IP Address that my internet assistants gave me.
[18:20] <Agiofws> i need to download  kernel 7.10 source code
[18:20] <Agiofws> can you help me ?
[18:20] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[18:20] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[18:20] <Dr_willis> !find kernel
[18:20] <ubotu> Found: kernel-package, kernel-wedge, klogd, linux-kernel-devel, linux-libc-dev (and 35 others)
[18:20] <Ramphis> In my terminal I typed lspci or something like that the /etc/resolv.conf etc.. if you wanna see them to see what's the problem is.
[18:20] <Dr_willis> !info kernel-package
[18:20] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 11.001 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[18:21] <MystaMax> Ramphis, do you have a static IP address or is your network running a DHCP server
[18:21] <Ramphis> MystaMax, I wish I would know that :S
[18:21] <luke_> my title bar keeps disappearing sometimes, logging out and logging back in helps any idea why?
[18:21] <Jet_Li> #ubuntu-br
[18:22] <Agiofws> Dr_willis,   i need to download the source not to apt-get it
[18:22] <Ramphis> I have my network IP
[18:22] <Ramphis> at first Ubuntu detect is was DHCP I think
[18:22] <Agiofws> cani have the url ?
[18:22] <AndyCR> luke_: Compiz, no compiz?
[18:22] <CatsceoSSH> luke_: do you have GNOME or KDE?
[18:22] <Ramphis> MystaMax
[18:22] <sipior> Agiofws: kernel.org
[18:22] <Pici> Agiofws: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:22] <Ramphis> I wanna show you the codes if you let me
[18:22] <luke_> i dont think i got compiz, in my appearance in my last tab its set to the second option
[18:22] <Agiofws> sipior,  no i don't want the vanilla kernel
[18:22] <bruno_> hi
[18:22] <luke_> i use gnome
[18:22] <Ramphis> What's the website I can paste the code and later to paste the URL here?
[18:23] <Agiofws> i need a specialized ubuntu 7,10 one
[18:23] <Pici> !paste | Ramphis
[18:23] <ubotu> Ramphis: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:23] <Pici> Agiofws: check out packages.ubuntu.com
[18:23] <Ramphis> thanks
[18:23] <AndyCR> luke_: Does it change if you switch to another window? IE the titlebars come back?
[18:23] <bruno_> anybody has expirience installing wacom bamboo digitalizer table over ubuntu 7.10=
[18:23] <MystaMax> Ramphis, who gave you the IP address? did they give you a subnet and a gateway as well?
[18:23] <bruno_> ?
[18:23] <brobostigon> hi
[18:23] <Ramphis> They gave me
[18:23] <luke_> AndyCR, no it doesnt
[18:23] <Ramphis> a DNS and the IP
[18:23] <bruno_> tablet
[18:23] <AaronMT> Offtopic, but in Pidgin anyone know how to open a second irc server?
[18:24] <Boglizk> After upgrading to 7.10, special effect removes the 'bar' thats above all windows (all of it, including _ [] and X). Any ideas?
[18:24] <AndyCR> luke_: Could you put a screenshot up? I had a similar issue but it stopped when I switched windows
[18:24] <MystaMax> Ramphis, you need a subnet and a gateway
[18:24] <AndyCR> i eventually just switched to emerald
[18:24] <Agiofws> Pici,  ok whats 7.10's name ?
[18:24] <Pici> Agiofws: Gutsy Gibbon
[18:24] <luke_> AndyCR, that is a slight problem but is there any special information that you are looking for
[18:25] <Agiofws> ok
[18:25] <luke_> when you say switched windows, what exactly do you mean?
[18:25] <CatsceoSSH> luke_: gnome_panel must be dieing
[18:25] <AndyCR> luke_: I mean alt-tabbing to a different window
[18:25] <luke_> ah, no that doesnt help
[18:25] <CatsceoSSH> try to kill it then launch it in a terminal
[18:25] <AndyCR> luke_: Nothing special, wanted to see if it looked like my issue
[18:25] <Ramphis> MystaMax, check this out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46017/
[18:25] <luke_> CatsceoSSH, what is the command i should be looking for
[18:26] <luke_> ok
[18:26] <Agiofws> is gutsy enough ? Pici  ? its the only one i can  find ?
[18:26] <CatsceoSSH> type 'gnome_panel'
[18:26] <doseryder> !automatix
[18:26] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:26] <AndyCR> CatsceoSSH: Why would that help? It's with the windeco, not the panel
[18:26] <Pici> Agiofws: Yep, thats the same.
[18:26] <CatsceoSSH> oh O_O
[18:26] <AndyCR> I have my titlebars turn white all the time with compiz on using the default decorator
[18:26] <AndyCR> annoying as anything
[18:27] <AndyCR> i switched to emerald because of it
[18:27] <jimmacdonald> Question: Where does NetworkManager store it's OpenVPN settings?
[18:27] <Boglizk> I have the same problem.. exept they dissapear
[18:27] <luke_> AndyCR, i got my window title from emerald theme
[18:27] <luke_> and the rest is gnome stuff
[18:27] <doseryder> !info automatix
[18:27] <ubotu> Package automatix does not exist in gutsy
[18:27] <Pici> Have you two/three tried asking in #compiz-fusion about the issue?
[18:27] <Pici> doseryder: Did you read what ubotu said?
[18:27] <luke_> sorry i am not very good at this stuff so maybe my description is not accurate
[18:27] <Pici> doseryder: Automatix really not supported,and we strongly dicourage its use.
[18:28] <eth01> !wget
[18:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:28] <eth01> !info wget
[18:28] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 233 kB, installed size 1924 kB
[18:28] <eth01> ... ^
[18:28] <doseryder> Pici ==bot?
[18:28] <drewzf> Where can I find a .deb for libssl0.9.7 under gutsy?
[18:28] <Ramphis> MystaMax, check this out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46017/
[18:28] <Pici> doseryder: ubotu is a bot, I'm not.
[18:29] <Dr_willis> automatix is really not needed much (it never was) with Gutsy release.
[18:29] <eth01> !info libssl
[18:29] <ubotu> Package libssl does not exist in gutsy
[18:29] <doseryder> lol
[18:29] <MystaMax> Ramphis, im already lookin, plz hold...
[18:29] <Ramphis> oki
[18:29] <jimbojw> !info qemu
[18:29] <ubotu> qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0-2ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4013 kB, installed size 10792 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm armeb armel s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[18:29] <sipior> doseryder: actually, Pici is a bot, who's programmed to deny being a bot.
[18:29] <drewzf> !info libssl0.9.8
[18:29] <ubotu> libssl0.9.8: SSL shared libraries. In component main, is important. Version 0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.1 (gutsy), package size 2759 kB, installed size 6408 kB
[18:29] <drewzf> !info libssl0.9.7
[18:29] <ubotu> Package libssl0.9.7 does not exist in gutsy
[18:29] <drewzf> herein lies my problem
[18:29] <ibanez> if i need to revert xorg.conf back to default, how could i do that ?
[18:29] <Pici> !msgthebot
[18:29] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:29] <EdwardXP> 2.6.22-144 ? is there an update?
[18:29] <paceyslack> salve a tutti
[18:30] <drewzf> Pici: I wasn't investigating, I was demonstrating, libssl0.9.8 exists whereas 0.9.7 does not, is there a .deb available anywhere?
[18:30] <EdwardXP> how i downgrade the linux kernel?
[18:30] <doseryder> sipior: you too is a bot.  thx for the link on PAM.  I still gotta read up on it
[18:30] <Pici> drewzf: Is there a reason you need that version?
[18:30] <EdwardXP> or reinstall the kernel
[18:30] <jimmacdonald> anyone able to answer my question?
[18:30] <Pici> EdwardXP: 2.6.22-14 is the latest.
[18:30] <sipior> doseryder: yes, i'm a bot. and i'm sending myself a SIGHOME. later, all
[18:31] <tomasko> why isn't ubuntu up to the 2.6.23 series yet?
[18:31] <Agiofws> ok guys
[18:31] <EdwardXP> Pici,  can i downgrade it or reinstall it?
[18:31] <Pici> tomasko: because .23 is development, and we dont upgrade mid-release
[18:31] <Pici> tomasko: expect 8.04 to be .24
[18:31] <tomasko> hmm, did ubuntu have 2.6.19 ever then?
[18:31] <tomasko> i remember 16 and 18.
[18:32] <MystaMax> Ramphis, the only thing that looks odd to me is your nameserver. doesn't seem right
[18:32] <Pici> tomasko: Probably not, odd versions are development releases
[18:32] <mario_> hi i have a problem with xen, does somebody have experience with it?
[18:32] <Pici> development/testing
[18:32] <herbaliser> hi is it possible my computer will not boot my xp cd because i have an lvm volume?
[18:32] <EdwardXP> !downgrade
[18:32] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[18:32] <Ramphis> :S What should I do?
[18:32] <tomasko> strange, oh well. thanks for the info Pici :)
[18:32] <Pici> EdwardXP: You can install any kernel version you want and it will be shown in grub
[18:33] <MystaMax> Ramphis, who gave you this IP information? are you at a school or something?
[18:33] <EdwardXP> i wanna install windowsxp
[18:33] <EdwardXP> but keep my kernel
[18:33] <MystaMax> lol
[18:33] <EdwardXP> wouldn't xp wipe everything out?
[18:33] <Pici> EdwardXP: What?
[18:33] <Ramphis> MystaMax, my Internet provider
[18:33] <MystaMax> Ramphis, are you running gnome?
[18:33] <pike_> EdwardXP: windows will overwrite the first 512bytes of hd which is the mbr you cant stop it but you can then boot from livecd and reinstall grub to the mbr
[18:33] <Ramphis> Yes, I do.
[18:33] <MystaMax> k
[18:34] <EdwardXP> I want to install Microsoft's Windows Xp by Chief EX, OFF, Bill gates :) lol
[18:34] <Ramphis> Actually, Windows right now... but gnome at Ubuntu.
[18:34] <EdwardXP> pike_,   omg.. thats right!!!
[18:34] <core64> Ramphis: are you using that static IP info now w/ windows?
[18:34] <markybob> Stormx2 still having deluge problems?
[18:35] <EdwardXP> pike_,  i never thought of it like that before, -- i think i'll try out your method...
[18:35] <Ramphis> Yes, I do. Core64. You want me to paste everything ?
[18:35] <pike_> EdwardXP: basically install windows then do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:35] <Ramphis> Cuz I dont know what you mean with subnet and gateway
[18:35] <pike_> EdwardXP: good luck
[18:35] <MystaMax> Ramphis, Core64 is mystamax as well, I'm on two comptuers so you know
[18:35] <herbaliser> EdwardXP: here is a guide http://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp
[18:35] <Ramphis> cuz in Windows for some reason they are called: DNS and IP...
[18:35] <Agiofws> ok i need simple answere ..... its  simple ... i need to download the sources of the kernel og ubuntu 7.10  iam using debian.. now can i do that with apt-get ?  or can i just use a simple URL to download a tar.gz  kernel please ?
[18:36] <EdwardXP> u might never see me again pike_ ; never in a million years
[18:36] <Ramphis> Oh Okay, MystaMax hehehe
[18:36] <herbaliser> edwardxp follow the guide and you will be fine
[18:36] <herbaliser> hi is it possible my computer will not boot my xp cd because i have an lvm volume?
[18:36] <Ramphis> I need a good answer, Ive been looking for help, but I cannot reboot the computer so many times :S
[18:37] <EdwardXP> hope my adhd doesn't kick in i need all the luck i can get
[18:37] <eyyYo> Is "server glx vendor string:" supposed to say "SGI" when the "client glx vendor string:" says "NVIDIA Corporation"? :S Can this be the problem with "Direct rendering: No"?
[18:37] <Agiofws> ok guys ubuntu gurus
[18:38] <Dr_willis> Agiofws,  if ya know what package its in.. you could download the .deb manually from the various repo sites
[18:38] <MystaMax> Ramphis, gotcha, in windows, go to the control panel -> Network connections -> locate your LAN connection and double click it. When you see the status window go to the support tab, and let me know when u are there
[18:38] <Ramphis> Ok
[18:38] <Agiofws> Dr_willis,  can you help me ? pls ?
[18:38] <Dr_willis> !info kernel-package
[18:38] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In component main, is optional. Version 11.001 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[18:38] <Agiofws> i'm like lost here
[18:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm not in there.. i dont think..
[18:38] <Agiofws> i found that
[18:38] <Agiofws> no use though
[18:38] <danfg> how do i update stuff, like running update-manager, but on a ubuntu server?
[18:38] <bsdlogical> hi, I'm a little confused with the files in /etc/modprobe.d - if I make a change to a file in there, do I need to run anything, or will it automatically be picked up by modprobe the next time around?
[18:38] <Fenix|work> I'm having some ftp problems on my ubuntu box.  For this one IP the ubuntu box is dropping the connection, but works fine for the rest.  I have a paste of tcpdump here:http://rafb.net/p/Aeoy6j72.html
[18:39] <Dr_willis> Agiofws,  you might want to go into details as to what/why you are doing this song and dance.
[18:39] <MystaMax> danfg, I'd use aptitude
[18:39] <MystaMax> well thats what I use
[18:39] <Pici> Agiofws: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/devel/linux-source-2.6.22
[18:39] <MystaMax> on my ubuntu servers
[18:39] <Ramphis> Mysta u want to know my TCP/IP properties?
[18:39] <LiquidGhost> So, odd problem, I installed the new fglrx (and the one before that) using Envy (and any other possible means I could track down on ubuntuforums / wiki), but I can't get DRI to work. No failure reported in the XOrg log, just glxinfo reports "Direct Rendering: No". The fglrx kernel module is loaded. When I remove these drivers and install the older fglrx in the Feisty (AMD64) repo, then I get DRI. Anyone had this problem before?
[18:39] <k1dugar> Hello  Jack Sparrow
[18:40] <danfg> MystaMax: oh ok, i've been using aptitude to install stuff, so it's also responsible for installing updates and such?
[18:40] <naelr> genii: are ya here?
[18:40] <danfg> i mean checking for updates, etc
[18:40] <danfg> ok
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Envy is a terrible thig to do to your computer and it is not supported in here
[18:40] <MystaMax> danfg, yes when you launch aptitude, hit the letter u
[18:40] <danfg> MystaMax: thanks :)
[18:40] <LiquidGhost> yes well I tried it later on, so lets forget I used it
[18:40] <MystaMax> Ramphis, I want you to show me the connection status info
[18:40] <LiquidGhost> And just say I built debs from the driver I got on AMD's site
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> k1dugar: Morning to you as well
[18:40] <LiquidGhost> Which is what I did 1st
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Have you reinstalled since you tried it..?
[18:41] <MystaMax> danfg, after you hit u, it'll say something like new packages or updated packages on the main screen
[18:41] <LiquidGhost> reinstalled what?
[18:41] <k1dugar>  Jack_Sparrow: well here is evening now
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: your operating system..
[18:41] <LiquidGhost> I am not really keen on just reinstalling my OS because of this
[18:41] <LiquidGhost> Then I might as well run Windows
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: We cant just forget it... that is where the problem started
[18:41] <timseves> Which channel is best to as questions about packaging?
[18:41] <danfg> MystaMax: let me try that now brb
[18:41] <LiquidGhost> The problem was here even before Envy touched my system
[18:41] <bersace> r
[18:42] <Ramphis> IP Address: 10.0.0.5 ~ Subnet Mask: 255.0.0.0 ~ Gateway: 10.0.0.1
[18:42] <bersace> Hi
[18:42] <pike_> timseves: #debian probably ;p
[18:42] <Mr_Eeh> can i dump a process' memory in xubuntu?
[18:42] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: It has to do with proper video driver and monitor setup.
[18:42] <ormandj> what's a good program to make tree diagrams? specifically, I'm trying to map out all the people in our org. from top to bottom
[18:42] <naelr> ok I can install fiesty on my new laptop but if I do an update to the next kernel revision it will not boot.. no will it with gutsy
[18:42] <timseves> pike: I my issue is ubuntu specific
[18:42] <MystaMax> Ramphis, good, you'll need that so write all that down. Above the IP addy does it say assigned by DHCP or static?
[18:42] <LiquidGhost> well, if DRI init is successful according to the XOrg log
[18:43] <LiquidGhost> why does glxinfo report it being not available
[18:43] <hilltop> in AWN why isnt the firefox icon shown?
[18:43] <Dr_willis> LiquidGhost,  i hear a lot of people in here with issues and ati/fglrx/and dri.  Ivee heard its often a bug/conflict with various mb chipsets and the ati drivers. ( ive given up on ati so cant help more)
[18:43] <LiquidGhost> And xv performance is insanely bad, blocky scaling
[18:43] <LiquidGhost> With lots of tearing
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: ONce you use envy or automatix I cant help until you reinstall.. It is a waste of my time
[18:43] <Ramphis> MystaMax, dunno :S ... I dont know a lot by nets lol XD
[18:43] <k1dugar>  Jack_Sparrow: do you know about any GUI for managing APM / ACPI fo ubuntu 7.10
[18:43] <jonrysh> I need to install the package containing gnome-font-properties.  How can I find out which package this is?
[18:43] <Ramphis> but ... If I go to that LAN TCP/IP propierties
[18:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k1dugar: I have not seen one
[18:43] <naelr> is there an ubuntu kernel irc channel?
[18:43] <danfg> MystaMax: so i press Enter on "Upgradable Packages", right?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> !find gnome-font-properties
[18:44] <bersace> Hi everyone, how to get a root shell access on herdy provided arrow do not work ?
[18:44] <Ramphis> I have also another Ip's
[18:44] <bersace> at boot time
[18:44] <ubotu> Package/file gnome-font-properties does not exist in gutsy
[18:44] <Agiofws> Dr_willis,   linux-source-2.6.22_2.6.22-14.46_all.deb     is this it ?
[18:44] <Seraph> Does anyone know how to get my laptop's ALI 5602 webcam working in Ubuntu?
[18:44] <MystaMax> danfg, hit the plus sign on the keyboard for the packages you want to upgrade
[18:44] <MystaMax> and then hit g to perform the upgrade
[18:44] <LiquidGhost> Jack_Sparrow, or you could just maybe think of what might cause the problem
[18:44] <Ramphis> I have also an DNS Server Ip's
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Agiofws,  that looks about right.
[18:45] <Agiofws> Dr_willis,  its the sources ..... right ?
[18:45] <jonrysh>  Dr_Willis: !find gnome-font-properties -- Is this supposed to be an entry in a shell window?
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: You did not get your video AND monitor setup correctly in the beginning.  Most people forget they need to setup the monitor sync rates and keep messing with video drivers
[18:45] <bersace> ok, let's make use of ssh
[18:45] <riotkittie> bersace: 8.04? #ubuntu+1 will prove more helpful for discussion of that
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Agiofws,  it says linux-source :) so im guessing thats a yet.
[18:45] <Lunks> What would be the drawbacks of getting a kernel from kernel.org and compiling it myself on ubuntu?
[18:45] <danfg> MystaMax: cool, i pressed +, then g and g again, it's updating, thanks :-)
[18:45] <jay> how do I say tar "test" and put it in /somedir
[18:45] <jay> ?
[18:45] <LiquidGhost> what the hell does sync rates have to do with DRI init?
[18:45] <naelr> does anyone know if is there an ubuntu kernel irc channel?
[18:45] <LiquidGhost> Also if I install an old fglrx then DRI works
[18:45] <bersace> ?
[18:45] <Dr_willis> jonrysh,  thats a bot command in the channel. it dident find the pacakge.
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: They get lazy and try scripots that dont work many times...  then they want to find the right way to do it.
[18:46] <riotkittie> Lunks: won't have the ubuntu patches.
[18:46] <Dr_willis> jonrysh,  why are you even looking for that?
[18:46] <MystaMax> danfg, sweet glad its workin'
[18:46] <MystaMax> Ramphis, did you send me something?
[18:46] <LiquidGhost> I have backups of all my XOrg configs anyways
[18:46] <LiquidGhost> I don't see the relevance
[18:46] <Ramphis> yes
[18:46] <Ramphis> I have also an DNS Server Ip's
[18:46] <Lunks> riotkittie: where can I see which patches does ubuntu apply?
[18:46] <ibanez> how do i tell if my ati install was successful ?
[18:46] <jay> how do I say tar "test" and put it in /somedir? tar cvf test.tar test -C /destinationDir does not work
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Once you go outside the repos using the scripts it messes up oter things down thew road..
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[18:46] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:46] <riotkittie> Lunks: love to answer that but i'm clueless. sorry.
[18:47] <jonrysh> Dr_Willis: Firefox and evolution have their fonts controlled in this way, and (as far as I have found) in no other.
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Read that link about some of what those scripts do.
[18:47] <Lunks> riotkittie: ok, thanks =)
[18:47] <k1dugar>  Jack_Sparrow: I'm laptop-mode-tools but its in shell mode and I have configured it to fix Hard Disk "Load_Cycle_Count" but I wanted to know how I can link it with native "Power Management"
[18:47] <Seraph> Does anyone know how to get my laptop's ALI 5602 webcam working in Ubuntu?
[18:47] <LiquidGhost> again
[18:47] <MystaMax> Ramphis, on the LAN status window, above IP address it says "Address type" assigned by DHCP (on my win box it does) what does yours say
[18:47] <Dr_willis> jonrysh,  even the apt serh web site aint finding anything on gnome-font-properties   You may be looking for somthing else. Or some how looking at the wrong stuff.
[18:47] <LiquidGhost> I had exactly the same problem for days before I even tried Envy
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> k1dugar: There were some tools that might help that.  I just dont remember the name at the moment
[18:48] <LiquidGhost> so it's hardly relevant
[18:48] <riotkittie> Lunks: any reason you're thinking about compiling a kernel from .org in particular?
[18:48] <thomas__> how u change rooms ?
[18:48] <LiquidGhost> DRI is reported to init fine, but it didnt
[18:48] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: It is relevant...  no matter what you say...
[18:48] <MystaMax> thomas__, /join #channelNAME
[18:48] <thomas__> thanks mysta
[18:48] <Ramphis> Yes
[18:48] <Lunks> riotkittie: not really =P
[18:48] <Ramphis> it says: Manually Configured
[18:48] <LiquidGhost> It was no relevant till about 3 hours ago
[18:49] <MystaMax> Ramphis, ah ok
[18:49] <riotkittie> hehe
[18:49] <k1dugar> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, please let me know if you find one, Im looking for in but its hard to find.
[18:49] <LiquidGhost> so instead of us going on about how I should not have installed it
[18:49] <LiquidGhost> and then bitch and moan for hours
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> k1dugar: I probably have it in my notes but I am not at my pc
[18:49] <LiquidGhost> How about just giving me a pointer as to why this can happen?
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: I already did...
[18:49] <Lunks> riotkittie: I just want to learn more about how it works, and hopefully not break anything
[18:50] <k1dugar> Jack_Sparrow: Nice ;) it would be great if later I would get know more about iy
[18:50] <k1dugar> *it
[18:50] <LiquidGhost> as in what might be wrong before I touched Envy
[18:50] <LiquidGhost> I mean can I be more clear on this?
[18:50] <Mr_Eeh> Hi. A question: can i dump a proccess' memory for examination somehow? :D
[18:50] <Ramphis> Mystamax, what should I do?
[18:51] <LjL> Mr_Eeh: hexdump /prox/process_id_number/mem
[18:51] <thomas__> i just installed ubuntu for the first time have never used linux before
[18:51] <LjL> Mr_Eeh: hexdump /proc/process_id_number/mem
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Did you ever setup your monitor info in your xorg?
[18:51] <pike_> Mr_Eeh: if you can read a dump file more power to you
[18:51] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Post it to the pastebin
[18:51] <brobostigon> mr_eeh, i dont understand what you mean, please give more info??
[18:51] <thomas__> i like it although i am a total noob
[18:51] <LiquidGhost> no, it's the same as with the default install and worked fine with the fglrx in the feisty repo
[18:51] <core64> Ramphis: so in ubuntu how'd you try and configure your static IP?
[18:51] <LiquidGhost> right, hold on
[18:51] <Mr_Eeh> brobogiston what should i tell more
[18:51] <Mr_Eeh> like i did with winhex on winxp
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: So you dont listen ...
[18:52] <Whitor> Hi, at one point I checked the option to have Gnome remember my current running state. It  worked well, but took a lot longer to login to my personal session. I have uncheccked this option... but Ubuntu is still loading my 'remembered' session environment... How do I reset this?  It literally takes 5+ minutes to bring up my desktop
[18:52] <Ramphis> core64, im not missed in any drivers, right?
[18:52] <jonrysh> Dr_Willis: The Debian package search http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages finds /usr/bin/gnome-font-properties in the package gnome-control-center, but on my own system (Gutsy) it's not there.  I need a method, like www.debian.org/distrib/packages to search the Gutsy database (or whatever).
[18:52] <brobostigon> i think other people  have given you more help than i could have.
[18:52] <Ramphis> the problem is the IP in my case, right?
[18:52] <thomas__> how u access files on a networked mac pc ?
[18:52] <LiquidGhost> if it worked fine with that fglrx
[18:52] <LiquidGhost> why should it be changed?
[18:52] <core64> Ramphis: most likely, it wasn't defined properly. but im not sure unless I was infront of your machine
[18:53] <Ramphis> come lol
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Again, if you seem to know so much and it dosent work why not listen to what we tell you
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: we link res and tell people how to set things up.. yet they dont read...
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[18:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: We link pages about how bad scripts are, yet they wont read..
[18:54] <core64> Ramphis: so did you try and set a static IP? if so how?
[18:54] <LiquidGhost> again
[18:54] <LiquidGhost> how is DRI related to this?
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[18:54] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:54] <LiquidGhost> christ
[18:54] <LiquidGhost> do I have to say again
[18:54] <riotkittie> then they come in for help after using the script and refuse to listen to anything that's said.
[18:54] <riotkittie> it's a vicious cycle.
[18:54] <LiquidGhost> I swear, the only thing you do is "LOL YOU NOOB YOU ARE WRONG!11"
[18:54] <Ramphis> Yes
[18:54] <Ramphis> I tried
[18:54] <Dr_willis> jonrysh,  its possible its a debian only file. The various apt commands and serch sites are not finding a 'file' named gnome-font-properties
[18:54] <Ramphis> How?
[18:55] <Ramphis> bY My Ntework settings
[18:55] <Ramphis> and I clicked on the propierties
[18:55] <Dr_willis> jonrysh,   http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_contents.pl?version=gutsy&arch=i386&case=insensitive&word=gnome-font&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs
[18:55] <riotkittie> LiquidGhost: no. you're needlessly defensive, for lack of a better term, perhaps paranoid. i've not seen anybody laugh at anyone, or call them a noob.
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: Do we need to say AGAIN, that you used Envy.  something that changes your system in ways that are not easy to fix and cause horrible problems..  So please read that to mean   NOT recommended or supported.
[18:55] <Ramphis> it says If i have static or a DHCP or something like that
[18:55] <LiquidGhost> yes
[18:56] <LiquidGhost> and then I said about 2309 times that I had the exact same problem before that
[18:56] <LiquidGhost> when I built the debs myself
[18:56] <LiquidGhost> so I am just asking in general what other logs I could check
[18:56] <LiquidGhost> where failure might be reported
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[18:56] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:56] <Dr_willis> I was thinking that with some ati cards/mb/chipsets - thers are some known bugs that prevent dri from getting enabled.
[18:56] <LiquidGhost> Seeing as XOrg is reporting that it loaded fine
[18:57] <kitche> LiquidGhost: then it's loaded fine what's the problem?
[18:57] <core64> I'm looking for some instructions for u
[18:57] <LiquidGhost> glxinfo report Direct Rendering: No and xv is completely broken. Video is blocky and tears
[18:57] <thrope> anyone know if its possible to get r/w access to ext2/3 partition from win xp 64? ext2 ifs doesn't seem to support it...
[18:57] <h1st0_> thrope: sure
[18:58] <h1st0_> thrope: there are plugin extenions you can dl search google for ext3 windows
[18:58] <jbjbjb> yes, but his question stated they don't work in 64-bit windows though
[18:58] <rambo3> didn't know ms made cp 64-bit
[18:58] <thrope> h1st0_: I couldn't find any for 64 bit windows
[18:58] <rambo3> xp
[18:58] <jbjbjb> I doubt you'll get too lucky
[18:58] <kitche> LiquidGhost: so go to xorg.conf and configure it here is the instructions
[18:58] <kitche> !ati | LiquidGhost
[18:58] <ubotu> LiquidGhost: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:58] <jbjbjb> seeing as drivers are pretty much the only thing in xp-x64 that give troubles, and EXT2-IFS is a driver
[18:58] <h1st0_> thrope: ahh 64bit windows no idea there.
[18:59] <thrope> there is explore2fs which is a program but you can only read
[18:59] <Dr_willis> kitche,  i think hes getting at  that 'x says dri is loading, but its actually failing to load propely'
[18:59] <thrope> i don't need the driver - i just need write access so a program would be fine
[18:59] <Dr_willis> bye all.
[18:59] <LiquidGhost> kitche, already did that, was the 1st installation method I tried.
[19:00] <LiquidGhost> fglrxinfo reports the OpenGL vendor string as "ATi blah blah whatever". Most people get Mesa Indirect if their DRI is not working.
[19:00] <Rodya> can someone tell me the name of the Add/Remove Programs program so that I can start it via the cli?
[19:01] <h1st0_> Okay just installed kde-core but I can't startx?  I get errors.
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> apt-get
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> LiquidGhost: aptitude
[19:01] <Slart> anyone know of an easy to setup ftp server that uses it's own accounts.. nothing fancy needed
[19:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodya: sorry those were for you
[19:02] <Rodya> Jack_Sparrow,  i know those, i want the GUI Add/Remove Programs program specifically
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> synaptic
[19:02] <h1st0_> Looks like kde-core didn't install X
[19:02] <core64> Ramphis: I couldn't find details on how to do it w/ the gnome, but you should have all the info you need to get it going. In ubuntu, System -> Administration -> network. Then uncheck roaming, and input the info you got from WinXP
[19:02] <EdwardXP> how do i access the GRUB editor on ubuntu 7.10?
[19:02] <nownott> how do i make a external mounted usb drive shared on the network
[19:03] <erUSUL> EdwardXP: grub editor? you mean grub conf file? /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:03] <core64> Ramphis: I need to go 2 lunch, I'll be back in about an hour or so... if you are still around I'll check back w/ ya
[19:03] <Rodya> Jack_Sparrow, that doesn't start the one im talking about either, I want the one found in Applications -> Add/Remove...
[19:03] <Borked|Raider> anyone know if svn got a command that dl and overwrite local changes made?
[19:03] <herbaliser> nownot: nfs samba
[19:03] <MasterShrek> h1st0, install kubuntu-desktop
[19:03] <Rodya> I'd start it via the menu, but im in fluxbox and can't
[19:03] <EdwardXP> thanks erUSUL i'm new at this, im learning :)
[19:03] <nimbo> is there a tutorial for creating a .deb package out of source code?
[19:03] <nownott> will this work on ubuntu server?
[19:03] <ouellettesr> hello, anyone know of a away to bulk rename a set of files, or a program that does that?
[19:03] <MystaMax> !samba | nownott
[19:03] <ubotu> nownott: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:03] <MystaMax> nownott, yes it will
[19:03] <getPancakes> i have a problem where i'm able to start pulseaudio as root, but if i try to do it properly with the script /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start, i get pulseaudio[13104]: main.c: Root priviliges required.
[19:03] <nimbo> !deb
[19:03] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[19:04] <nownott> its not ntfs its a hfs parititon, does that matter?
[19:04] <nimbo> !package
[19:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:04] <RazzoRz> hey folks
[19:04] <MystaMax> nownott, isn't HFS for Apple computers?
[19:04] <RazzoRz> how does one find if there Video drivers are the Proper ones install ?
[19:05] <MystaMax> RazzoRz, what type of card do u have?
[19:05] <nownott> yep
[19:05] <MystaMax> nownott, then no it won't work
[19:05] <nownott> i cant mount it and read it just not write
[19:05] <h1st0_> Whats the minimal X meta package?
[19:05] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: are you using the restricted drivers?
[19:05] <RazzoRz> MystaMax: ati X1400
[19:05] <MystaMax> RazzoRz, sorry i've got nVidia
[19:05] <RazzoRz> yeah i know Most do
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodya: I dont know but you can probably figure it out using gconf-editor
[19:05] <nimbo> is there a tutorial for creating a .deb package out of source code?
[19:05] <RazzoRz> and i am running 6.10 still
[19:05] <kambei> Can anybody recommend decent, touchscreen-friendly Point-of-Sale software for Ubuntu?
[19:06] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: are you using the restricted drivers?
[19:06] <pike_> h1st0_: normally i do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and i think the base x fonts are included if not grab those too
[19:06] <hilltop> hod do i get windows in ubuntu to look like vista?
[19:06] <nimbo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[19:06] <Mr_Eeh> i cant apt-get lazarus bacause apt-get does not have a dependency in that version
[19:06] <RazzoRz> No i used the beryl set up to get my ati drivers.. prolly generic drivers
[19:06] <Rodya> Jack_Sparrow, I found it in the Gnome Menu editor... /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> great
[19:06] <herbaliser> nownott don't know about hfs partition
[19:07] <herbaliser> never tried it
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Rodya: Sorry I didnt know it off the top of my head
[19:07] <ouellettesr> kambei: I have searched extensively on pos software and found nothing worth putting into production use
[19:07] <kane77> hi.. my printer doesn't work.. it starts printing and then it just stops and leaves the paper inside...
[19:07] <kambei> ouellettesr: Have you tried Tina?  That is one that was recommended to me.
[19:07] <NIMBY> when I installed vista64 I started to get very slow network transfers, so I installed ubuntu 64 and it doesnt seem any faster, would I be better off with the 32bit version? and would it also be better for getting games to run in wine etc, I've also read that vmware doesnt work in 64bit linux
[19:07] <RazzoRz> but i want to install a game but comes up with a video driver error.. so how does one set up ati drivers on here that will let me do that
[19:07] <kambei> ouellettesr: It's Java-based, unfortunately.
[19:07] <MystaMax> NIMBY, did you disable IPv6
[19:08] <MystaMax> it could help
[19:08] <kambei> ouellettesr: I was hoping for something a little less, well, Java.
[19:08] <Rautamiekka> I got Option GlobeSurfer Icon which I really need to get to work with my Gutsy 32, someone please help me privatly
[19:08] <MystaMax> NIMBY, vmware does work on 64bit, I'm running it on servers and desktops...
[19:08] <ouellettesr> kambei: I have heard banapos is good, but I think the project was abandonned, they advertise a veriosn 2.0, but you can't download it without user name and pasword. And how to get those I have no idea
[19:08] <NIMBY> I havnt disabled IPv6,does it make a big difference ?
[19:09] <kambei> ouellettesr: Okay.  I will look into that one.  You are right, the options seem to be fairly limited.
[19:09] <Rautamiekka> IPv6 slows down only
[19:09] <RazzoRz> i assume most don't use ati here and nor know how to install the Proper drivers
[19:09] <ouellettesr> kambei, I have heard of tina, but for some reason I never installed it. I think I will look into it again
[19:09] <valchers> .lv
[19:10] <kambei> ouellettesr: http://techiqmag.com/2007/11/13/point-of-sale-systems-going-open-source/
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: what game..?
[19:10] <MystaMax> NIMBY, it won't hurt to try
[19:10] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: If I were you I would uninstall the drivers you installed and let the restricted drivers manager handle your video card drivers
[19:11] <NIMBY> mystaMax How do I disable IPv6 ?
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: SOme I found needed a command line to set the res for the game on my widescreen..  sauerbratten was one
[19:11] <RazzoRz> ok but i am not reall in the mood to lose beryl..
[19:11] <RazzoRz> really*
[19:11] <brobostigon> !ipv6
[19:11] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: Syytem>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager
[19:11] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[19:11] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: have you heard fo compiz-fusion, much better than beryl IMHO
[19:11] <ActySofts> how do I install ALSA on gutsy?
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: It installed fine and I could even hear it...
[19:12] <RazzoRz> i am still on 6.10 not 7.04
[19:12] <ouellettesr> ActySofts: I believe its already installed
[19:12] <NIMBY> MystaMax thank you I will try that now
[19:12] <ActySofts> I've tried OSS but the sound was very bad, I ripped it and now I'm left without any sound system
[19:12] <MystaMax> NIMBY, no prob, don't thank me thank brobostigon. he types quicker than me :)
[19:12] <ActySofts> I tried reinstalling alsa-base but it didn't work
[19:12] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: is there a reason you keeping yourself in the stoneage?? :)
[19:12] <ouellettesr> were at 7.10 now
[19:13] <kihon> Any recommendations for a headless, web-based torrent client?  I've been using TorrentFlux for months and just started playing with TorrentVole.  Any others?
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> I still have one pc on 6.06
[19:13] <h1st0_> pike_: thanks i'll give it a try
[19:13] <kambei> ouellettesr: Okay, thanks for the help.  Bye.
[19:13] <RazzoRz> last time i loaded 7.04 i had driver issues with the laptop. so i went back to what i know that works
[19:13] <MystaMax> RazzoRz, what about gutsy 7.10? did you try that/
[19:14] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: 7.10 may have taken care of that problem
[19:14] <MystaMax> gutsy rocks
[19:14] <ouellettesr> yep
[19:14] <Darkstriker> hi
[19:14] <RazzoRz> its the video card issue.. i really hope so ....
[19:14] <Darkstriker> I have a really annoying issue with gusty
[19:14] <alyxander> hey guys i have a strange error i need help with
[19:14] <alyxander> W: GPG error: http://packages.elbuntu.org gutsy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 223020C2A7C6F0DF
[19:14] <RazzoRz> now i assume i will lose everything , such as my virtual box and what have you.. too much stuff on here to start fresh
[19:14] <alyxander> any ideas
[19:14] <Wisteso> anyone know how to disable the top and bottom bars in gnome from showing on top of a full screen app in wine?
[19:15] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: If I were you I would attempt to dual boot your existing install and install 7.10 , then iff you don't have any problems, delete your older installation
[19:15] <crdlb> Wisteso: using compiz?
[19:15] <pike_> Wisteso: run winecfg its in the display settings somewhere
[19:15] <MystaMax> ouellettesr, ah good idea, never thought of that
[19:15] <RazzoRz> yeah i could try that. i guess
[19:15] <pike_> i dont know about compiz though
[19:15] <Darkstriker> When I start the Live CD, my desktop is shifted to the right.... any clues?
[19:16] <nownott> still confused on samba the file  i want to share is ~/mybook/music
[19:16] <RazzoRz> how hard is it to delete the old Os?
[19:16] <RazzoRz> well uninstall that is
[19:16] <Wisteso> pike_ yeah i looked there but didn't see anything that looked helpful. unless it's a window2000 behavior
[19:16] <MystaMax> delete the partiton?
[19:16] <hardware-Rks> Question regarding bluetooth and high quality audo.. .I'm using 7.10 with a compaq 8510p laptop.   The headset connects, I switch the mixer to the bluetooth.   I play media and nothing comes out my headphones ..  Any suggestions
[19:16] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: if you did that then you could migrate everything as well, like your virtualbox installs
[19:16]  * genii sips
[19:16] <Wisteso> crdlb: i'll look into that
[19:16] <RazzoRz> really..
[19:16] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: you will just need to format that partiion that it lies on
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: dual boot both ubuntu's too
[19:16] <hume> anyone knows of how a nokia N 6500 slide mobile phone might work with ubuntu gutsy?
[19:17] <RazzoRz> good to know!>. ok ouellettesr: do i get your email addy when things go arise lol
[19:17] <crdlb> Wisteso: wine's fullscreen behavior is broken, and compiz's fullscreen workaround doesn't work as well as metacity's
[19:17] <ouellettesr> RazzoRz: with gparted
[19:17] <RazzoRz> yeah
[19:17] <MystaMax> RazzoRz, if things break, boot the liveCD and come on back :)
[19:17] <RazzoRz> yeah.. ok guess i am on my way.. .7.10 you say huh
[19:18] <MystaMax> RazzoRz, best OS ever :)
[19:18] <brobostigon> which??
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: If you have room on your drive you can do a full backup and easilly reinstall it from livecd..
[19:18] <ActySofts> anyone able to help with installing alsa?
[19:18] <RazzoRz> i got 64 gigs left i think
[19:18] <Darkstriker> ´hi, has anybody got some time to help me?
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[19:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:18] <MystaMax> RazzoRz, I use partimage to backup my ubuntu partitions. It works great and its fast.
[19:19] <ouellettesr> Razzorz do you have other partitions already or is 6.10 taking up the whole disk?
[19:19] <RazzoRz> yes
[19:19] <Herbo> hello
[19:19] <RazzoRz> the whole thing
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: I use the dd command .. see the link that follows
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[19:19] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[19:19] <Herbo> how do I install beryl in Ubuntu Gutsy using apt-get
[19:19] <decko> Hi people. I've a problem here. My gutsy don't want open any web pages, but I can connect with other apps, like pidgin with gtalk service...
[19:19] <Darkstriker> dont use beryl
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Herbo: no need..
[19:20] <Darkstriker> Herbo use compiz fusion
[19:20] <madera> Are there good enterprise solutions for backup?
[19:20] <Herbo> Jack_Sparrow, why ?
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> compiz fusion
[19:20] <ouellettesr> ok, so when your installing 7.10 you will need to resize your partiion and install it on that
[19:20] <alyxander> captin jack sparrow!
[19:20] <Herbo> I used to use beryl instead :S
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Herbo: and it had changed ..
[19:20] <Darkstriker> compiz is better
[19:20] <preaction> madera, rsync and an offsite RAID5 usually work just fine. the "enterprise" part is probably going to be the hardware
[19:21] <ibanez> compiz is beryl
[19:21] <HellMind> What is console-kit-daemon ?
[19:21] <ibanez> they merged
[19:21] <HellMind> what is for
[19:21] <alberto> hola
[19:21] <alberto> hola
[19:21] <linenoise> I'm using konsole and I want to know what the hotkey is to go to a particular tab.  Under firefox it's alt+tabNumber, so if I wanted the second tab, I'd hit alt-2 and it would get focus.  Does this work in konsole?  google didn't help :(
[19:21] <alberto> como cipote funciona esto
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[19:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:21] <Herbo> Jack_Sparrow, how do i configure it ?
[19:21] <drarem> when i'm playing open arena, i dont know what key i pressed, but i end up with a windowed screen and can't hit any key to return.. running 7.10 gnome & compiz
[19:21] <drarem> have to ctrl-alt-backspace
[19:21] <decko> !br
[19:21] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[19:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:21] <decko> Ahhhh cool!!!
[19:22] <crdlb> !ccsm | Herbo
[19:22] <ubotu> Herbo: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[19:22] <ActySofts> haha, lol, human stupidy is what everyone suffers from...I forgot the speakers off =(
[19:22] <madera> My problem is that I have a process that is peaking every 30 seconds or so... it's very annoying... and I can't seem to find it...
[19:22] <madera> In windows I use sysinternals and I can see a log of peaks along with the process name.
[19:22] <bullgard4> What does 'rc' stand for in http://www.bootchart.org/images/bootchart.debian.mcrae.0.png?
[19:22] <madera> In linux, how do I do that?
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> crdlb: thanks.. that is the one I wanted
[19:22] <madera> KSystemGuard is no help
[19:22] <madera> it only shows peaks, but no responsible process names
[19:23] <Darkstriker> is there some1 who can help me around???
[19:23] <hardware-Rks> Thanks for the bluetooth pointers... one more question,  I'm installing ubuntu 7.10 on an compaq 4800 series laptop.  It has a 100GB harddrive with windows XP already installed.  When the guided partition manager comes up it wants to erase everything on the drive.  It does not see the NTFS partition it see's everything as free space.  When I reboot and remove the CD XP comes up fine... any hints.
[19:23] <ActySofts> anyway, how do I turn the pc speaker off?
[19:23] <Borked|Raider> Anyone that can assist me troubleshooting a ms problem in wow. What command can i use to find the distination of what wow sendt/get information from.  netstat maybe?
[19:24] <don_pucci> hey all
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> hardware-Rks: what does gparted livecd show.. If you happen to have it
[19:24] <hardware-Rks> one partition of all free space.
[19:24] <NIMBY> disabling IPv6 made a very small difference to network speed, I used to be able to transfer a 350Mb file in around 10-15seconds, I never had this problem on 32bit xp
[19:25] <don_pucci> anyone know of a linux alternative to anydvd which is a dvd copy protection remover
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> hardware-Rks: I am talking the stand alone gparted.. not ubuntu live with gparted?
[19:25] <hardware-Rks> dvd9
[19:25] <NIMBY> its taking 45seconds plus with IPv6 disabled, it was nearly 3 mins
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: k9copy
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> dvd95 too
[19:26] <hardware-Rks> So press alt-f2 and run the command gparted.. is that what your refering too?
[19:26] <don_pucci> no...k9copy does not remove protection
[19:26] <madera> I guess in Linux nobody can tell when a process is peaking
[19:26] <don_pucci> just shrinks dvd
[19:26] <hardware-Rks> wine and dvdshink work well
[19:26] <ActySofts> how do I disable the pc speaker? it's getting annoying
[19:26] <don_pucci> those just shrink
[19:26] <don_pucci> they do not remove protection
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: I dont know of any that remove it... just bypass it to make a copy
[19:26] <madera> ActySofts: cut one of the two wires
[19:27] <don_pucci> jack...same thing
[19:27] <hardware-Rks> double click on your mixer and un-check pc speaker.. or open your case and unplug it..
[19:27] <timmbob> Hi, is there an easy way to get a RAID 0 after the install of gutsy?
[19:27] <timmbob> Software RAID
[19:27] <markybob> ActySofts sudo rmmod pcspkr
[19:27] <ActySofts> maedra: I might need it sometimes, you know, but I don't want ubuntu to use it at all...surely there must be a way
[19:27] <hardware-Rks> sorry check mute on PC -SPEAKER
[19:27] <LjL> !info sysprof | madera
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: not worth the errort, or possible loss of data later.
[19:27] <ubotu> madera: sysprof: A system-wide linux profiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 204 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[19:27] <ActySofts> markybob: tried that, sound still works, and the pc speaker IS muted in the mixer
[19:28] <Darkstriker> hello?
[19:28] <Darkstriker> anybody read me?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: drive speed used to be a real bottleneck, no so these days
[19:28] <Darkstriker> HELLOO?
[19:28] <ActySofts> !hello > Darkstriker
[19:28] <ActySofts> hmm?
[19:28] <cyris> hey everyone. i'm trying to remove openoffice.org-writer from my system (apt-get remove openoffice.org-writer) but i get this error :S "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:The following packages have unmet dependencies:" and it lists a few packages. when i go apt-get -f install I get this error message "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal." Any ideas
[19:28] <cyris> ?
[19:28] <Darkstriker> k good
[19:28] <timmbob> Hmm ok. So what would you suggest?
[19:28] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: I took your advice and installed ubunto on two seperate drives instaid of on one raid. Now I need a little piece of advice again :(
[19:28] <Darkstriker> now i need some1 to help me...
[19:29] <Darkstriker> when i start ubuntu my desktop is shifted to the right...
[19:29] <Darkstriker> somehow
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: ok, if I know the answer
[19:29] <LjL> Darkstriker, tweak your monitor's knobs.
[19:29] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: What would be more comfortable to mirror my data?
[19:29] <Darkstriker> no my desktop is shifted but my mouse ISNT
[19:30] <hardware-Rks> Mr Sparrow,  Are you talking about using the ubuntu livecd and pressing alt-f2 then running gparted or booting from a rescue disk like fedora and running the non x partition editor?
[19:30] <Darkstriker> and I can see what is supposed to be on the right is displaying on the left
[19:30] <ompaul> cyris, so do sudo apt-get install openoffice.org ; sudo apt-get remove --purge openoffice.org* ; rm -rf /home/`whoami`/.openoffice*
[19:30] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: I have my /sdb1 mounted to /home . It is the only partition on /sdb, and I want to partition the drive into two partitions, but no tool will let me.....
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[19:30] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> the LIVE cd
[19:30] <Ruud> So I have to start the live cd then do it and return??
[19:31] <don_pucci> maybe this is a better question...what do you guys use to backup your retail dvds
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: It would depend on your needs,  need full mirror or daily mirror..
[19:31] <ShanghaiScott> NetworkManager in 7.10 seems to be broken. After some random interval I love my wireless networking (shows  in the menu but no longer connected). Plugging in a wired network isn't detected. NetworkManager starts using 100% of one of my 2 cores.
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: One sec
[19:31] <cyris> ompaul: another error, http://rafb.net/p/gwLMGm41.html
[19:31] <ShanghaiScott> lose my wireless networking
[19:32] <ShanghaiScott> using atheros/madwifi drivers
[19:32] <hardware-Rks> right so I used gparted it shows no partitions, all free space... when there is an NTFS partition that works fine if rebooted..   I want to dual boot but cannot partition because it does not see the NTFS partition, any suggestions?
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: yes, gparted live is my first choice, ubuntu live second due to minor gparted issues
[19:32] <Darkstriker> HELP!!!
[19:32] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: I just wanted to do RAID 0 to prevent myself for data-loss and not to struggle with a wracked disk
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> hardware-Rks: which gparted live version did you use
[19:32] <ibanez> hey Jack_Sparrow what is the command to see if 3d rendering is enabled ?
[19:33] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks a lot!
[19:33] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: So with RAID0 I hoped to just change one of the disks if broken and use the other one so long
[19:33] <ibanez> i thought it was something | grep direct
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: Personally I use dd command and save the result to spare partition
[19:33] <Darkstriker> WTF?!
[19:34] <don_pucci> how about you just ask instead of using caps
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: I understand the logic of raid...  you can use dd...  you can have sep /home partition...
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[19:34] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:34] <Darkstriker> PPL WHY THE F*** are u just ignoring me?
[19:34] <don_pucci> ask you question nicely or leave
[19:34] <soundray> Darkstriker: because you don't know how to behave here
[19:34] <Darkstriker> I DID
[19:34] <ompaul> Darkstriker, maybe you are not community aware
[19:35] <Darkstriker> rofl
[19:35] <Poul|Raider> Anyone that can assist me troubleshooting a ms problem in wow. What command can i use to find the distination of what wow sendt/get information from.  netstat maybe?
[19:35] <erUSUL> !patience
[19:35] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:35] <sainzeo> anyone know how to get all the nav buttons working on a Dell mouse in ubuntu?
[19:35] <ompaul> Darkstriker, read that line on patience please
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Poul|Raider: try #winehq
[19:35] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: but then i would need to dd a whole 160Gig every time i want to backup
[19:35] <atlas95> sainzeo: try btnx?
[19:35] <don_pucci> ahhh...so k3b can remove css
[19:35] <sainzeo> atlas95: btnx?
[19:35] <Poul|Raider> Jack_Sparrow, its not wine related :) it a common question of making a traceroute
[19:35] <don_pucci> nice
[19:35] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: Can i set up a RAID 0 with a fresh install?
[19:35] <Darkstriker> om....
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: depends on how you are setup
[19:36] <atlas95> sainzeo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3834924
[19:36] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: Read: within the install process
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[19:36] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:36] <sainzeo> atlas95: thanks, i'll try that!
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: Not from within the install process
[19:36] <ompaul> cyris, so do sudo apt-get -f install <-- let it fix itself
[19:37] <atlas95> this is working for my vx nano and vx revolution and i try in few minutes on my mx revolution :D
[19:37] <libnet-problem> how do i install libnet
[19:37] <atlas95> i love logitech :p
[19:37] <don_pucci> here is a really dumb question
[19:37] <don_pucci> can u use kde appz in gnome?
[19:37] <atlas95> don_pucci: yes
[19:37] <don_pucci> k
[19:37] <don_pucci> thx
[19:37] <don_pucci> so...why do they make them for kde then?
[19:37] <libnet-problem> how do i install libnet
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: install from synaptic.. you dont need to do anything elase
[19:38] <cyris> ompaul: another error hah :/ http://rafb.net/p/BLf7wh33.html
[19:38] <Paulc> Hello, I have problems with wifi network using a Netgear router and Belkin usb adapter with ra2500 chipset; Network Manager often doesn't detect my network, same with wicd, and even when they do, they won't connect. I tried to set them up manually with ESSID, IP, subnet mask etc but to no use. When used manual config, syslog says there is "no STA entry for own IP" and "no proberesp fromm current AP". Anyone help, please?
[19:38] <ompaul> don_pucci, even you can - please type the full word english is not everyone's first language -- that is a wrapper issue - you can do it any way you like if you provide the right libs
[19:38] <don_pucci> what
[19:38] <timmbob> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks!
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> timmbob: np
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: go to synaptic... install kate or any kde app from there
[19:38] <don_pucci> thx..i know that
[19:39] <cyris> ompaul: i read an article about a similar issue, they said that clearing /var/cache/apt might fix it, guess not :S
[19:39] <ompaul> don_pucci, use you in place of u etc
[19:39] <don_pucci> i was asking why people make appz for kde
[19:39] <libnet-problem> how do i install libnet
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: For people that use kde...  We pay a small price in overhead for using a kde app in gnome
[19:39] <erUSUL> don_pucci: why not?
[19:39] <don_pucci> i see
[19:39] <don_pucci> thx jack
[19:39] <libnet-problem> how do i install libnet
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: Hope that explains it
[19:39] <don_pucci> yes...
[19:39] <ompaul> cyris, it might if you clear it
[19:40] <don_pucci> perhaps erUSUL could learn
[19:40] <slashzul> anyone know of a program to record to wav or mp3 file on a timed schedule?
[19:40] <slashzul> audacity cant record on a time schedule
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: You will see it include some extra libs to have them work
[19:40] <Paulc> anyone, please?
[19:40] <ompaul> libnet-problem, check with apt-cache search libnet and choose what you want to isntall with sudo apt-get install PackageName
[19:40] <don_pucci> if you dont have a proper answer...then dont provide one at all
[19:40] <cyris> ompaul: didn't work, another ideas?
[19:40] <don_pucci> savy?
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> be nice
[19:40] <slashzul> looking for a cLI for sound recording to set a timer
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: We get very busy in here
[19:40] <don_pucci> i will try k3b...that seems to be able to backup retail dvds
[19:41] <don_pucci> i know jack...
[19:41] <dyerotic> hey
[19:41] <dyerotic> i have a question
[19:41] <ompaul> cyris, try this sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and see what it does
[19:41] <don_pucci> but asnwering: why not?
[19:41] <don_pucci> that is just ignorant
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: k9 and dvd95 work for my dvd backups
[19:41] <don_pucci> it removes css?
[19:41] <soundray> libnet-problem: 'sudo apt-get install libnet0'
[19:41] <dyerotic> my resolution is stuck at 800x600 and i want to change it but i dont hav the options...how can i fix that
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: We all have our moments.. I should know...
[19:42] <ompaul> !resolution > dyerotic (please check out the message from the bot)
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: No.. just makes a working copy
[19:42] <soundray> libnet-problem: if you need to compile software that depends on it, 'sudo apt-get install libnet0-dev'
[19:42] <cyris> ompaul:give me a sec, apt-get -f install might be working
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[19:42] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:42] <don_pucci> u lost me on that jack...sorry
[19:42] <don_pucci> it must bypass or remove protection to backup
[19:42] <sjhiz> just got an error during an update, hope someone can help. error reads as follows "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:42] <sjhiz> E: _cache->open() failed, please report."
[19:43] <libnet-problem> hi thre i did apt-cache searh libnet there are lots of libnets there, i am tryin to install a tool and i get this error which libnet will work for this error checking for libnet... yes
 checking for version 1.1.x of libnet... no
 configure: error: Bad libnet version found in /libnet.h:
[19:43] <Paulc> Hello everybody, I got a problem with my wifi connection
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: It does, but still will not say.. store on my dvr as it still shows as protected
[19:43] <don_pucci> hmmm
[19:43] <don_pucci> k..i will those as well
[19:43] <Paulc> anyone wants details to help, please?
[19:43] <don_pucci> thx again
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> don_pucci: np
[19:43] <bullgard4> What does 'rc' stand for in http://www.bootchart.org/images/bootchart.debian.mcrae.0.png?
[19:43] <soundray> Paulc: which version of Ubuntu?
[19:43] <Paulc> 7.10
[19:43] <winchesterPAT> LOTS OF SPAM
[19:43] <Paulc> do you need other details?
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi
[19:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:44] <cyris> ompaul: what would apt-get install ubuntu-desktop do?
[19:44] <soundray> libnet-problem: did you read my reply?
[19:44] <ompaul> cyris, try to install lots of stuff and then you can endeavour to remove it all when installed
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> cyris: It will install the meta package desktop and lots of apps
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> later people....   wife needs some help
[19:45] <cyris> ompaul: well id rather not do that :D i just want to uninstall openoffice.org
[19:45] <ibanez> any idea what this means ?
[19:45] <ibanez> Xlib:  extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[19:45] <ibanez> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[19:45] <soundray> Paulc: use my nick please. Are you using the driver that comes with the kernel?
[19:45] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: enjoy helping ;)
[19:45] <Paulc> soundray :yes
[19:46] <ompaul> cyris, ehh so when that -f thing sorts itself out then do "sudo apt-get remove -purge openoffice.org*"
[19:46] <libnet-problem> sure now i installed still i get this error when i tyr to ./configure a program i get still this problem
[19:46] <libnet-problem> checking for version 1.1.x of libnet... no
[19:46] <libnet-problem> configure: error: Bad libnet version found in /libnet.h:
[19:47] <RagingBull> how do i restart internet sevices from the terminal
[19:47] <RagingBull>  in slack i just /etc/rc.d
[19:47] <RagingBull> ./rc.inetd restart
[19:47] <cyris> ompaul: it didn't work :S http://rafb.net/p/wpWNoQ25.html
[19:47] <ompaul> libnet-problem, please use pastebin as in the topic for this channel
[19:47] <HorizonXP> hey, i can't get my external monitor to work correctly on my laptop, can someone help?
[19:47] <pike_> RagingBull: you just want to bring device down and backup?
[19:47] <sjhiz> anyone available to help with an error I keep getting when I try to update? I'm using 7.10
[19:47] <ompaul> cyris, have you reinstalled it before you tried to remove it?
[19:48] <HorizonXP> !dualdisplay
[19:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualdisplay - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:48] <HorizonXP> !externallcd
[19:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about externallcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:48] <soundray> Paulc: I suggest you disable network manager. It tends to interfere with this driver.
[19:48] <HorizonXP> !dual
[19:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:48] <Paulc> soundray: do you need other details?
[19:48] <HorizonXP> !display
[19:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:48] <ompaul> !botabuse | HorizonXP
[19:48] <ubotu> HorizonXP: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:48] <pike_> RagingBull: anyway its sudo /etc/init.d/scriptname restart  i forget the name atm
[19:48] <ompaul> cyris, this you must do so as to make the database that holds the info about what is installed so that it is consistent for the removal of stuff
[19:49] <Paulc> soundray: I tried to remove it and install wicd
[19:49] <cyris> ompaul: i have tried reinstalling openoffice.org-writer and this is the error i get when i do that :S http://rafb.net/p/CHZk8K48.html
[19:49] <h1st0_> Ughhh anytime I startx and log out of kde when i'm done system will hang.
[19:49] <soundray> Paulc: the command is 'sudo chmod -x /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager /etc/dbus-1/event.d/26NetworkManagerDispatcher'. You have to reboot after that
[19:49] <soundray> Paulc: what do you mean you have "tried" to remove it?
[19:49] <bullgard4> What does 'rc' stand for in http://www.bootchart.org/images/bootchart.debian.mcrae.0.png?
[19:50] <wressle> Hello, you guys are my last chance. I just installed gutsy on my new computer but I just can't get it to boot using GRUB. The device is /dev/sdc and it is properly formatted by the installeer. I first noticed that it attempted to write the GRUB to (hd0) but I changed it to (hd2) to reflect my device. Anyhow, when I boot it simple says incorrect file partition or something like that. fdisk -ul does not output anything a
[19:50] <wressle> So, right now I have a high-end system which can no even boot :)
[19:50] <Paulc> soundray: sorry, I mispoke, I succeded in removing it and installing wcd using synapsis, but nothing changed
[19:50] <wressle> I have 3 sata drives if that makes any difference.
[19:51] <cyris> ompaul: i have tried reinstalling openoffice.org-writer and this is the error i get when i do that :S http://rafb.net/p/CHZk8K48.html
[19:51] <axel_s> Hi, how do I block a certain domain using the firewall...
[19:51] <RagingBull> pike_: ty
[19:51] <axel_s> Haven't found anything regarding the firewall in the Preferences
[19:52] <drewzf> What's the debian version number of lenny/sid
[19:52] <ompaul> cyris, do this and tell me what happens: apt-get -f install
[19:53] <soundray> Paulc: if that hasn't helped, you should probably try to download the CVS version of the driver and compile it for your kernel.
[19:53] <KNYlaptop> what config file would I need to alter to allow me to vnc in?
[19:53] <sjhiz> anyone able to help with an update manager error? I keep receiving a dpkg failure message and can't seem to get past it
[19:53] <KNYlaptop> I don't have a VGA monitor, but I have SSH access :)
[19:53] <FireH4zrd> Firefox & Thunderbird... wow
[19:53] <soundray> Paulc: what's the name of the module that supports your device?
[19:54] <dyerotic> yo i have ubuntu 7.04 and nVidia graphics drivers....my monitor wont go to 1024 resolution and the one on the website isnt helping...anyone have advice?
[19:54] <Paulc> soundray: I don't know, sorry. How can I get that informatio?
[19:54] <jay> How do I mount an ext3 drive over the network?
[19:54] <soundray> Paulc: when you run 'lsmod | grep rt2500pci', do you get any output?
[19:55] <cyris> ompaul: http://rafb.net/p/aQwzUR27.html
[19:55] <ompaul> cyris, you doing an upgrade at the same time?
[19:55] <kristjans> su
[19:56] <cyris> ompaul: well this all started while attempting an upgrade?
[19:56] <Paulc> soundray: I should try that, but to do it I have to restart my system. Can you please wait a few minutes as I do it?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> FireH4zrd: Install sunfire and go nuts
[19:56] <soundray> Paulc: hold on
[19:57] <soundray> Paulc: you have a USB adapter, correct?
[19:57] <ompaul> cyris, lets try getting you back on the road as for removing things don't do it til the upgrade is done - or you will be not the bunny of happiness:   sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-core openoffice.org-help-en-us openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb
[19:57] <decko> People, i've got a problem here. My ubuntu don't navigate the web. The configuration is correct. I navigate using windows and the same IP configurations, but with ubuntu I can't...
[19:57] <decko> :(
[19:57] <bullgard4> Why does getty start so late? (In  http://www.bootchart.org/images/bootchart.debian.mcrae.0.png 38 seconds after INIT) I thought it only depends on INIT.
[19:57] <dyerotic> pleeeeeease help
[19:57] <dyerotic> i hate this resolution
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !rex
[19:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rex - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[19:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:58] <dyerotic> i read that
[19:58] <pike_> decko: can you open a terminal and type 'ping 64.233.187.99' ?
[19:58] <dyerotic> doesnt help me
[19:58] <soundray> bullgard4: consider asking in #ubuntu-devel
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> dyerotic: that is how you fix the problem
[19:58] <pike_> decko: do you get a response? how about if you plug that ip into the browser?
[19:58] <ompaul> dyerotic, ^^ read that it fixes your problem - if you follow it step by step
[19:58] <bullgard4> soundray: I will consider that. Thank you.
[19:58] <dyerotic> what step? there is like 8 different ones
[19:58] <cyris> ompaul: i get this error message when i try that. http://rafb.net/p/5XzEcj24.html
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> dyerotic: you can post your xorg to the pastebin...  verify you setup your monitor type and not just the video card
[19:59] <decko> pike_, I've got a response even I try ping google.com
[19:59] <ktted> i'm trying to run vlc as a cron job, and it keeps throwing some memory error when cron goes to run vlc, any ideas?
[19:59] <decko> But firefox don't surf..
[19:59] <ompaul> cyris, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer#
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: can you type in an ip into the browser and get a site
[20:00] <ompaul> cyris, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-writer << no hash ;-)
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: it might be dns
[20:00] <decko> Jaac, Not all IPs
[20:00] <ompaul> cyris, try this sudo apt-get update before that
[20:00] <decko> Jaac, Sorry
[20:00] <dalton> http://www.aulavaga.com.br/jogos/humor/soque-seu-pc/
[20:00] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, Not all IP
[20:00] <dalton> pc crash
[20:00] <pike_> decko: so it can resolve dns in terminal but firefox doesnt work..
[20:00] <cyris> ompaul: http://rafb.net/p/OiPYIW39.html
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: but do you get any?
[20:01] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, I've tried with opendns webserver IP and it don't open
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: exactly what I was going fo..  please continue
[20:01] <cyris> ompaul: apt-get is having me go through a loop here hah :S
[20:01] <decko> pike_, Not only in firefox, but with epiphany too
[20:01] <decko> pike_, But I can conect to gtalk service using pidgin
[20:01] <meeper> what permissions do you need on a directory in order to mkdir on it? write is insufficient, do you also need execute?
[20:02] <ompaul> cyris, do this  apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade and if that fails get yourself a CD back up your data and to for a new install - it will cost you less time
[20:02] <cyris> meeper: execute would be to enter the directory
[20:02] <free1> I hope I could ask a question with regard to a scanner...
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: If you type  64.233.161.18 2    what do you get
[20:03] <free1> I went to the sane-project.org site and it appears that the scanner I have is supported on linux
[20:03] <meeper> cyris: really? you need execute to enter a directory and I suppose to also mkdir in it. alright hmm. thanks.
[20:03] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, I know, I got the google page
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> free1: but is it supported in Ubuntu
[20:03] <cyris> ompaul: i don't get it tho, is apt-get fucked or something?
[20:03] <cyris> meeper np
[20:03] <ghostknife> I just did an upgrade of Firefox through the update manager, and now there is an error in one of the XUL xml files. Keeps giving an XML parsing error.
[20:03] <ghostknife> Wtf now? How can I downgrade?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: Looks like it is dns
[20:04] <free1> Jack:  I went to wiki.ubuntu.com and it wasn't listed as supported or unsupported
[20:04] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, But I try to open 207.68.219.60
[20:04] <soundray> ghostknife: do not use this abbreviation here. You need to restart firefox to fix this.
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> free1: fire up xsane and see if it can drive it
[20:04] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, And it dosen't
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: and if you try google.com   you get?
[20:04] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, no
[20:05] <ompaul> cyris, please mind the language, it has broken during the upgrade, answer this, did you use any tools to enhance your ubuntu for codecs or the like?
[20:05] <free1> Jack_Sparrow:  I get 'no devices available'
[20:05] <soundray> free1: does the sane site mention a firmware requirement?
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: so one problem at a time.. and I am a bit busy, someone like pike can better ehlp you.
[20:05] <ghostknife> soundray: sorry about that. didn't even notice
[20:05] <cyris> ompaul: not that i recall, but what would that have to do with openoffice ?
[20:05] <decko> pike_, Don't go away man!!! ;)
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !dns
[20:06] <ubotu> DNS is an acronym for Domain Name System, and is an internet system used to translate names into IP Address.
[20:06] <free1> soundray:  not that I can see
[20:06] <ghostknife> soundray: thats a simple fix. now i feel stupid :/ i didn't even realise I didn't restart in the meantime
[20:06] <soundray> ghostknife: firefox can be resistent to quitting. Repeat 'killall firefox-bin' in a terminal until you get an error if ff still gives you the XUL errors
[20:06] <ompaul> cyris, you never know what libs get borked - or when and that can kill stuff
[20:06] <[BoA]Naufragus[i> hey, for some reason i can't get sound in ubuntu. i'm using a Soundblaster Audigy ZS and i checked the creative website and it says there aren't any drivers
[20:06] <soundray> free1: what's the name of the backend?
[20:06] <pike_> decko: sorry im at work
[20:07] <erUSUL> !sound
[20:07] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:07] <decko> :(
[20:07] <ghostknife> soundray: no. I just assumed it was restarted. When you mentioned it, it occurred that I didn't. Makes sense since the chrome is newer than the chrome running, so restarting fixed it
[20:07] <free1> soundray:  umax1220u
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: If you are behind a router we need to look at port forwarding
[20:07] <pike_> decko: boss walks by i have to be busy ;p
[20:07] <russe11> I'd like to do an automatic periodic backup of a directory, and send the backup over scp. However, the remote computer's ssh server is set up for password-based authentication, and I can't change that. Is there a way to make this work?
[20:07] <arghh2d2> I want to append .ogg to then end of every file in a directory, does anyone know how to easily do that with mv or rename?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: thanks for taking care of this
[20:08] <joebob777as7> I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: same thing here atm
[20:08] <soundray> free1: is it a USB one?
[20:08] <free1> soundray:  backend is umax1220u, while the model # - 2100u
[20:09] <free1> soundray: yes
[20:09] <xp_prg> has anyone here ever increased the size of a partition in ubuntu?
[20:09] <arghh2d2> the then*
[20:09] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, With windows, I've the same IP configurations and it don't happen
[20:09] <free1> soundray: yes, usb
[20:09] <Slart> arghh2d2: you could do something like this.. for i in $(ls); do mv $1 $1.ogg; done  .. but try it first.. it's just a quick hack
[20:09] <arghh2d2> I want to append .ogg to the end of every file in a directory, does anyone know how to easily do that with mv or rename?
[20:09] <decko> On the same machine
[20:09] <ompaul> cyris, I take it you have OOo closed (just guessing)
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: just wanted to check it...  it should not be the prob
[20:09] <joebob777as7> xp_prg, yes gparted boot cd worked fine
[20:09] <baegle> So, this may be a newbie question, but I don't even have search terms for Google so: My machine's name is "metroid" and other people on my network can access it using metroid.local but I have no idea why! What is doing this magic!?
[20:10] <arghh2d2> i'll try that slart
[20:10] <xp_prg> where can I get this bootcd?
[20:10] <erUSUL> !info mmv | arghh2d2
[20:10] <ubotu> arghh2d2: mmv: Move/Copy/Append/Link multiple files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.01b-14 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[20:10] <Slart> baegle: sounds like avahi's doing that
[20:10] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[20:10] <Slart> !avahi
[20:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:10] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, I don't have access to the router here...
[20:10] <robert1> .
[20:10] <decko> Jack_Sparrow, Sorry :(
[20:10] <soundray> free1: read 'man sane-umax1220u' (I'll have a look at it, too)
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:10] <erUSUL> baegle: maybe avahi is doing it's magic??
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> decko: if it works in one it should not be the problem with the other
[20:11] <Slart> baegle: since ubotu is being lazy.. here's a link.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avahi_(software)
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> cya ... play nice
[20:11] <baegle> I'll have to look, but before I do that, I have to get my admins to restart the friggin SOHO firewall again for the 8th time because I can't access anything through http
[20:11] <baegle> again..., I'll bookmark the links
[20:11] <soundray> free1: it seems you need to configure it in /etc/sane.d/umax1220u.conf
[20:11] <xp_prg> thanks
[20:12] <Geee_> Ola !
[20:12] <free1> soundray:  looking at the man page now... configure how?
[20:12] <Geee_> Hey !
[20:12] <cyris> ompaul: i dont have openoffice running
[20:13] <robert1> hm, sure broke ubuntu this time
[20:13] <soundray> free1: edit the file. Enter the correct values in the usb line. Find them out with lsusb
[20:13] <free1> soundray:  I did lsusb
[20:13] <joebob777as7> I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically?
[20:13] <soundray> free1: so you have the USB ID?
[20:13] <ompaul> cyris, your upgrade broke at a bad place - it is beyond me to fix it - and it is a waste of energy on your part - I advocate that you go to the fresh install route
[20:14] <pike_> decko: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[20:14] <free1> soundray: and got Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[20:14] <free1> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[20:14] <free1> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[20:14] <soundray> free1: no pastinG!
[20:14] <ompaul> !paste
[20:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:14] <free1> soundray:  sorry, I thought 3 lines were ok
[20:14] <pike_> decko: see also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225734
[20:14] <soundray> free1: it's not connected or not turned on
[20:15] <free1> soundray:  it is connected, but...
[20:15] <cyris> ompaul: ok thanks
[20:15] <free1> soundray:  I had to buy a power adapter from Radio Shack
[20:15] <ompaul> cyris, pity that :-(
[20:15] <free1> soundray: I hope it was the right one.  the power appears on though
[20:16] <free1> soundray: as opposed to ordering the power adapter from the manufacturer.
[20:16] <decko> thanks pike
[20:16] <cyris> ompaul: no worries, i have backups galore
[20:16] <golem1> wanting to install picasa on 7.10, but wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | apt-key add -  is returning "no valid openPGP data found"
[20:16] <ray__> ok i just loaded the fglrx for my ATI video card, my computer slowed way down, what happened
[20:16] <free1> soundray: power on , an usb connected
[20:16] <soundray> free1: if it doesn't appear in lsusb, there's nothing I can do to help.
[20:17] <free1> soundray: do you think it's the generic power adapter issue?
[20:17] <free1> soundray:  but thanks for your help so far though
[20:17] <soundray> free1: it's hard to tell
[20:17] <cberlo> Hi folks.  got an ATI video card that was working perfectly fine (desktop effects, 3d accel, etc.) with the defualt ATI driver when I installed Gutsy a little while ago.  I did an update last week and it looks like it's disabled DRI/DRM somehow.  Anyone else experiencing this?  I don't want to go back tot he fglrx driver because it didn't support the compositing stuff I like.
[20:18] <pike_> ray__: might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-212074.html
[20:18] <johnny06> ati $ucks
[20:18] <johnny06> nvidia rulez
[20:18] <soundray> johnny06: don't do this here please
[20:19] <johnny06> do what
[20:19] <cberlo> johnny06: I tend to agree.  I wanted to buy ATI because at the time they were Canadian, but I knew nvidia to be the superior product...  :(
[20:19] <joebob777as7> cberlo, compiz-fusion would be a better channel to ask but what is the output it gives you when you try compiz --replace?
[20:19] <johnny06> just cause i said thetruth
[20:19] <atlfalcons866> i reinstalled vista and grub is not there
[20:19] <cberlo> joebob777as7: Dont' have the system in front of me, but it basically says it can't find any screens and exists.  No DRI
[20:19] <soundray> johnny06: this is a support channel, not the "say the truth" channel
[20:20] <cberlo> joebob777as7: It's not a compiz issue, really.  It's an ATI Xorg kinda issue.
[20:20] <johnny06> so
[20:20] <pete83> soundray: that's why I lie when I give support
[20:20] <cberlo> pete83: here, here.  :)
[20:20] <joebob777as7> atlfalcons866, boot a live cd and do sudo grub / root (hd0,0) then you'll have to add an xp section in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:21] <joebob777as7> cberlo, you'll probably have to enable dri in xorg.conf. can't really help without the exact error maybe someone else can
[20:21] <johnny06> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html
[20:21] <cberlo> I can still boot the system with the LiveCD and it enables the desktop effects properly, so I'm pretty sure it's an update that occurred sometime last week.  Freaked me out a bit because I just upgraded my RAM to 1GB...  :)
[20:21] <soundray> pete83: you cannot give support by lying ;)
[20:21] <atlfalcons866> !vista
[20:21] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[20:22] <atlfalcons866> !xp
[20:22] <ubotu> XP, or "eXtreme Programming" is a style of programming, for more information see: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/
[20:22] <joebob777as7> cberlo, look at the xorg in boot cd and compare
[20:22] <atlfalcons866> !2000
[20:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2000 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:22] <atlfalcons866> !windows2000
[20:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows2000 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:22] <cberlo> joebob777as7: thanks.  DRI is enabled in xorg.conf, and it's the same as it's been in a while.
[20:22] <soundray> atlfalcons866: stop
[20:22] <joebob777as7> cberlo, you can always do an xorg rebuild
[20:22] <soundray> !botabuse | atlfalcons866
[20:22] <ubotu> atlfalcons866: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:22] <atlfalcons866> ok
[20:22] <burzum> how can i update ubuntu server 6.0.4 to a certain php5 version? need it for testing
[20:22] <cberlo> xorg rebuild?
[20:23] <pete83> soundray: sure, to fix your wireless card just delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:23] <soundray> burzum: there is no 6.0.4
[20:23] <kdubois> soundray: don't do that
[20:23] <soundray> pete83: aye, see, you're not supporting anyone if you say that.
[20:23] <soundray> kdubois: do what?
[20:23] <joebob777as7> cberlo,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:23] <pete83> kdubois: he knows that, I'm just giving him an example of lying support
[20:24] <johnny06> wanabes
[20:24] <joebob777as7> I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically or do i have to rebuild kernel or something else?
[20:24] <soundray> kdubois: oh, thanks for the heads up :)
[20:24] <cberlo> joebob777as7: ok thanks
[20:24] <soundray> johnny06: is there anything we can do to help you?
[20:25] <johnny06> not really no
[20:25] <pete83> johnny06: you are that far gone?
[20:25] <jorman> hello there
[20:25] <johnny06> if i am botherin you
[20:25] <johnny06> just kick me out
[20:25] <soundray> johnny06: please refrain from making any comments then.
[20:25] <ompaul> !offtopic
[20:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:26] <johnny06> sheep
[20:26] <FireH4zrd> soundray: does firefox not link to thunderbird by default if you install thunderbird?
[20:26] <soundray> Thanks ompaul
[20:27] <soundray> FireH4zrd: no... how do you mean "link"?
[20:27] <bullgard4> soundray: The topic of #ubuntu-devel is: "No support." Apparently there is no intermediate-level Ubuntu support channel. I will dodge to ##linux and hope for better luck.
[20:27] <jorman> I have a pb with Gutsy and a Vitsuba kb-8102c keyboard: when I touch the "Sleep" hotkey... the computer is TURNED OFF completely. When I touch the "Power" hotkey the behaviour is 'expected': it's the same as selecting System -> Quit, any ideas? Where can I configure these hotkeys mapping?
[20:27] <FireH4zrd> soundray: sorry for being vague, i meant a mailto: link
[20:27] <soundray> bullgard4: your question may be most suitable for a mailing list
[20:28] <gfx_> but then how can we automate that?
[20:28] <ta1> I am unable to use .php scripts in firefox.. every time I try it doesn't recognize it and wants to use BlueFish to edit it.... any ideas?
[20:28] <bullgard4> soundray: Yes. I will file a posting to an Ubuntu mailing list.
[20:28] <jorman> ta1, php scripts are meant to be run from a webserver
[20:28] <jorman> ta1, don't expect 'em to work just by opening them in firefox
[20:28] <soundray> FireH4zrd: no, I think it'll link to what you set under System-Preferences-Preferred Applications
[20:29] <gfx_> hello
[20:29] <jorman> I have a pb with Gutsy and a Vitsuba kb-8102c keyboard: when I touch the "Sleep" hotkey... the computer is TURNED OFF completely. When I touch the "Power" hotkey the behaviour is 'expected': it's the same as selecting System -> Quit, any ideas? Where can I configure these hotkeys mapping?
[20:29] <FireH4zrd> soundray: thank you :)
[20:29] <joebob777as7> I put a new motherboard processor ram and video card in my aunt's system and it seems to be acting peculiarly. do i need to reinstall ubuntu or should it have updated itself automatically or do i have to rebuild kernel or something else?
[20:29] <gfx_> profiles for users?
[20:29] <gfx_> any ideas
[20:29] <ferronica>  On Ups Power, I check off Enable Ups Discharge Alarm then I hit close.. when I reopen that same menu the option is not checked.. what's going on? I have restarted the apc service a couple of times.....
[20:29] <cberlo> gfx_: Have you looked into Sabayon?
[20:29] <cberlo> !sabayon
[20:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sabayon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:30] <gfx_> is that a package that works with edubuntu?
[20:30] <FireH4zrd> ta1: you need to install php & apache and maybe even mysql to run your php script on your machine, then you will need to reference the files from localhost
[20:30] <cberlo> Wow.  ubotu doesn't know about sabayon?  gfx:  yes.
[20:30] <LjL> !info sabayon
[20:30] <ubotu> sabayon: system administration tool to manage GNOME desktop settings. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 151 kB, installed size 2784 kB
[20:30] <cberlo> LjL: thanks.  :)
[20:30] <ompaul> bullgard4, give me 5 mins to research that - at first glance it is kinda most sensible for it to occur when it does - I'll poke some resources
[20:30] <ferronica> LjL:  On Ups Power, I check off Enable Ups Discharge Alarm then I hit close.. when I reopen that same menu the option is not checked.. what's going on? I have restarted the apc service a couple of times.....
[20:30] <Karasu_> hi there, can someone help me with my screensaver options?
[20:31] <bullgard4> ompaul: I will patiently stand by.
[20:31] <jorman> Karasu_, don't ask a question, ask your question ;)
[20:31] <jorman> I have a pb with Gutsy and a Vitsuba kb-8102c keyboard: when I touch the "Sleep" hotkey... the computer is TURNED OFF completely. When I touch the "Power" hotkey the behaviour is 'expected': it's the same as selecting System -> Quit, any ideas? Where can I configure these hotkeys mapping?
[20:31] <LjL> ferronica: i think i have no idea, why are you asking me? i don't even have an UPS or ever had one
[20:31] <gfx_> i would like to create users with similar desktops to the one i have configured for minimum access
[20:31] <ferronica> ok
[20:32] <ompaul> bullgard4, yeah it does make most sense: getty - a program which displays the login: prompt when logging into a Unix system.
[20:32] <xp_prg> what is the command to see how many disks I have?
[20:32] <ikonia> gfx_: make their profiles read only
[20:32] <raxip> don't know
[20:32] <ikonia> xp_prg: uuid will show you the uuid for all your disks
[20:32] <ta1> FireH4zrd: Yeah, I know.. I have PHP and Apache running.. CGI scripts work fine but when I try to access PHP it just wants to open it like it's an unrecognized file
[20:32] <ompaul> bullgard4, system is not in a "ready" state until they fire up
[20:32] <Paulc> soundray: I entered the command lsmod | grep rt2500usb, do you need the output?
[20:32] <soundray> ikonia: blkid ?
[20:32] <ikonia> soundray: thank you
[20:32] <ferronica> On Ups Power, I check off Enable Ups Discharge Alarm then I hit close.. when I reopen that same menu the option is not checked.. what's going on? I have restarted the apc service a couple of times.....
[20:32] <ikonia> xp_prg: blkid
[20:32] <gfx_> what config files are used when a new user is created?
[20:32] <ikonia> soundray: my mistake
[20:33] <cberlo> ferronica: On what OS are you doing this?
[20:33] <ikonia> gfx_: well their home directory is the key, everything is controlled from their
[20:33] <Karasu_> jorman..ok..well my screensaver doen load, after the iddle time fades to black then fades back, i used also de xscreensaver, it didn work either went black cycling
[20:33] <gfx_> in other words, what or where does ubuntu go to determine what to include when a user is created?
[20:33] <erisco> Is there any browser for ubuntu that has a 64-bit java plugin?
[20:33] <ikonia> gfx_: what files are created depends on your config
[20:33] <ferronica> cberlo: ubuntu 7.10 gnome
[20:33] <ompaul> ikonia, may I point you at bulgard4's question you may have some good docs on same
[20:33] <ikonia> gfx_: thats /etc/skel
[20:33] <soundray> Paulc: no, you have answered my question (there was output) :)
[20:33] <ikonia> ompaul: you certainly may, however I missed it
[20:33] <ikonia> bullgard4: can you tell me your question please as I missed it
[20:34] <ompaul> ikonia, what getty depends on
[20:34] <erisco> !browsers
[20:34] <ubotu> Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[20:34] <gfx_> ive heard of people duplicating and renaming directory folders, but the settings migrate as well when changes are made, sounds like a lot of work
[20:34] <cberlo> gfx_: I generally set the template directory to be that of a user (template).  Then I change the template user how I want it.  Basically similar to the Sabayon approach.  Of course, my profiles are deleted every time a user logs out due to authenticating with ADS.
[20:34] <Paulc> soundray: good:) what now?
[20:34] <ikonia> ompaul: in terms of technially depends on as an application, or depends on to work
[20:34] <sku> My wifi card works from the live cd but not when ubuntu is installed!  Can anyone help me fix it?
[20:34] <Condoulo> Who here is a GRUB expert?
[20:34] <FireH4zrd> ta1: did you run "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5"
[20:34] <ikonia> Condoulo: ask away
[20:34] <soundray> Paulc: I think if it's still not working after you removed network manager, the only hope is in compiling a more recent driver version.
[20:34] <jorman> ta1, and restart apache after doing what FireH4zrd told you
[20:34] <cberlo> ferronica: And are you using a web browser, the APC software...?  How are you accessing settings?
[20:34] <ompaul> ikonia, depends on as a application - i.e. what must have happened before it can function
[20:34] <Bikerbob> no expert but I have been playing with it for a bit Condoulo
[20:35] <ferronica> cberlo: there is default power manager
[20:35] <Condoulo> ikonia- Ok, my situation is, I installed Ubuntu on my main hard drive, but at the same time, I already had XP installed on my secondary drive. When I installed Ubuntu, GRUB did not include XP in the boot up options
[20:35] <knightwise> hey everyone :)
[20:35] <ferronica> cberlo: Power Manager 2.20.0 in ubuntu 7.10
[20:35] <gfx_> wondering if there is a way to create 3 versions of desktops for users and then automate adding users to one of the three available
[20:35] <Paulc> soundray:I guess I have to remove the previous version first?
[20:35] <bullgard4> ikonia:  Why does getty start so late? (In  http://www.bootchart.org/images/bootchart.debian.mcrae.0.png 38 seconds after INIT) I thought it only depends on INIT.
[20:35] <FireH4zrd> ta1: use "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" to restart
[20:36] <AlvarocK> Can i import a xml file that has a uml diagram with some software ?
[20:36] <Patchak> is there all I need to hava  local test server in ubuntu or there are some stacks I can install ??
[20:36] <LjL> AlvarocK, it would depend on which format it's in i guess.
[20:36] <jorman> AlvarocK, Umbrello may work if its XMI
[20:36] <cberlo> ferronica: Wow.  Didn't know that's built in.  Sorry, only familiar with the APC software and the default "laptop battery" settings.
[20:36] <gfx_> i have to lock down the desktop for grades k thru 6 and then allow internet access for grades 7 thru 12
[20:36] <jorman> its -> it is
[20:36] <Patchak> or I need ton install apache, php mysql all separately and myself?
[20:36] <soundray> Paulc: that's easy, just backup the current one and put the new one in it's place.
[20:36] <AlvarocK> ok, thanks i'll probe it
[20:36] <Flannel> !lamp | Patchak
[20:36] <ubotu> Patchak: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[20:37] <knightwise> does anyone have experience in installing ubuntu on a compaq evo n620c ?
[20:37] <ferronica> cberlo: i am using APC UPS
[20:37] <gfx_> k-6 simply have applications and menu bars removed
[20:37] <ikonia> bullgard4: getty should only need the network stack up, nothing else, I think its started last as its an ancillery application rather than a core service
[20:37] <gfx_> as well as the browser
[20:37] <AlvarocK> my partner made a uml diagram on Windows.. and he exported on a xml file...
[20:37] <ferronica> cberlo: on windows i have APC software installed
[20:37] <Patchak> gotta love that drupal site
[20:37] <AlvarocK> now i'll probe... if umbrello can read it
[20:37] <knightwise>  /join #ubuntu.nl
[20:37] <ikonia> Condoulo: it didn't include xp at boot time because either it couldn't probe the xp disk to detect the os or the disk wasn't there
[20:37] <jorman> I'll ask my question one more time :)
[20:37] <jorman> I have a pb with Gutsy and a Vitsuba kb-8102c keyboard: when I touch the "Sleep" hotkey... the computer is TURNED OFF completely. When I touch the "Power" hotkey the behaviour is 'expected': it's the same as selecting System -> Quit, any ideas? Where can I configure these hotkeys mapping?
[20:37] <Bikerbob> you need to edit the menu.lst and include your XP install
[20:38] <burzum> how can i update ubuntu server to a certain php5 version? need it for testing
[20:38] <ferronica> cberlo: on ubuntu problem occurs when main power supply cuts, no beep alarm from UPS:(
[20:38] <Condoulo> Bikerbob- I tried that last night, but no luck what-so-ever
[20:38] <Patchak> Flannel, is there any prepared stacks like for mac os xampp or like in win ??
[20:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: if you look at that chart you'll see core services are started first so that looks like a selection choice rather than technical dependency as that is only the tcp stack
[20:38] <gfx_> thanks to all who have replied to my questions
[20:38] <cberlo> ferronica: Okay, and you've set the alarm stuff in Windows, and don't see anything when you're in Ubuntu?  I don't see any settings in the Gnome Power Manager for UPS...
[20:38] <Karasu_> does anyone knows how to put the screensaver working either the ubuntu one or the xscreensaver? mine just doesnt start up, fades to black and nothing?
[20:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: ompaul does that make sense to you ?
[20:38] <jorman> burzum, if that certain version is different from the one available on the repositories, by compiling yourself I guess...
[20:38] <ompaul> ikonia, ack
[20:38] <Bikerbob> Condoulo: can you find the ntfs partiton with a partition editor in linux?
[20:38] <Flannel> Patchak: You don't need prepared stacks.  Just install everything individually, and it works together.  That page has the instructions on how to do it, not hard.  Like half a dozen instructions, if that.
[20:38] <burzum> jorman, how can i check which ones are aviliable?
[20:39] <cberlo> gfx_: XFCE is fairly easy to customize and has a kiosk mode you may be interested in.
[20:39] <Condoulo> Bikerbob- yeah
[20:39] <cberlo> (xubuntu)
[20:39] <ferronica> cberlo: add applet to pannel
[20:39] <ta1> Ok, restarting apache fixed it... thanks :)
[20:39] <ferronica> cberlo: right click Add to pannel
[20:39] <Bikerbob> ok.. then when you boot Grub.. you can interupt the load and go to the command line and boot the partition manually
[20:39] <erisco> !browsers
[20:39] <ubotu> Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[20:39] <erisco> Is there any browser for ubuntu that has a 64-bit java plugin?
[20:39] <cberlo> ferronica: What's the applet called?
[20:39] <Condoulo> Bikerbob- how would I do that"/
[20:39] <jorman> burzum, apt-cache search bla_bla will search for bla_bla in all configured packages repositories, IIRC, otherwise the Synaptic app's search will do
[20:39] <bullgard4> ikonia: I need longer time to think about your statement. Thank you very much for commenting.
[20:40] <SteevoLS> Anyone using E17?
[20:40] <Bikerbob> what partition is first? linux or XP?
[20:40] <DigitallyBorn> why isn't sendmail in the main dapper repository?
[20:40] <burzum> jorman, this returns just one package, not the versions that are aviliable and i dont have a xserver running
[20:40] <ferronica> cberlo: sorry check under system -preferences - power manager
[20:40] <Condoulo> Bikerbob- The Linux one should be first because its on the main 80GB hard drive
[20:40] <LjL> DigitallyBorn: because some other mailer was chosen i guess
[20:40] <ikonia> bullgard4: here is other food for thought. getty is launched off init, init is the first thing thats launched so what you "may" be seeing in your image is getty is spawned by init but not actually "started" until you login which is why your chart is showing it last
[20:40] <ikonia> bullgard4: it depends how that chart is made I guess
[20:40] <ikonia> bullgard4: just more food for thought
[20:40] <ferronica> cberlo: sorry check under system -preferences - power management
[20:41] <jorman> burzum, then 1 pkg is available only on ur configured repositories.
[20:41] <cberlo> ferronica: I see only the power management options, as usual.  I'm guessing you see more options when you have a UPS connected?
[20:41] <Bikerbob> ok.. then as far as Grub is concerned linux is (hd0,0) and your XP should be (hd1,0)
[20:41] <jorman> I have a pb with Gutsy and a Vitsuba kb-8102c keyboard: when I touch the "Sleep" hotkey... the computer is TURNED OFF completely. When I touch the "Power" hotkey the behaviour is 'expected': it's the same as selecting System -> Quit, any ideas? Where can I configure these hotkeys mapping?
[20:41] <ferronica> cberlo: in power management there are three options
[20:42] <Bikerbob> so when grub loads.. you hit 'C' to got to command line
[20:42] <Condoulo> Bikerbob- yeah, I figured about that much out.
[20:42] <ferronica> cberlo: in power management there are three tabs
[20:42] <cberlo> jorman: You may want to read up on software suspend.  Some BIOSes don't support the default method and just poweroff.
[20:42] <adac2> can someone with an up to date 32 bit gutsy installation send me the ndiswrapper.ko file? I deleted mine and now it seems that it won't be created anymore even with a reinstall of the deb packages.. (:
[20:42] <polpol> Condoulo#  check grub swap
[20:42] <ikonia> Bikerbob its "e" for edit mode isn't it ?
[20:42] <Bikerbob> then at the command line you can type root (hd1,0)
[20:42] <decko> pike_, Strange. MTU is the problem
[20:42] <ferronica> cberlo: on AC power , On ups power , general
[20:42] <dad> hi all, i would like to know how to update a package in synaptic?
[20:42] <jorman> cberlo, and where can I read about it? do you have an URL handy please?
[20:42] <decko> pike_, I don't know why gutsy set it to 1500
[20:42] <Bikerbob> he does not want to edit the linux boot.. he wants to manually boot the xp
[20:42] <Kilroy> cberlo: ndiswrapper can be installed through the repos
[20:42] <ikonia> dad: click the package and if there is an update available it will auto edit
[20:42] <cberlo> ferronica: That's not UPS power on mine -- it's "Battery" (granted I'm on a laptop here...)
[20:42] <ikonia> Bikerbob: fair enough
[20:42] <decko> pike_, I down it to 1492 and works again
[20:43] <decko> pike_, THanks for the help
[20:43] <ferronica> cberlo: oh
[20:43] <ferronica> cberlo: i am using desktop with APC UPS
[20:43] <dad> ty ikonia
[20:43] <Bikerbob> so then you have set the root (WHERE YOU START LOOKING) at hd1,0
[20:43] <Bikerbob> and you then type on the next line
[20:43] <crashoverride> how do i see the other partitions on my hd? i can see all the ubuntu stuff but for some reason i cant see windows stuff anymore
[20:43] <polpol> Condoulo#  i mean map sorry
[20:43] <pike_> decko: heh np
[20:43] <Bikerbob> chainload +1
[20:43] <sku> My wifi card works from the live cd but not when ubuntu is installed!  Can anyone help me fix it?
[20:43] <Bikerbob> and then boot
[20:43] <ferronica> cberlo: i am searching for help last 1 week :(
[20:43] <Kilroy> sku: what model?
[20:44] <Bikerbob> it should boot the xp partition if the MBR still is intact
[20:44] <ferronica> cberlo: but getting no help :(
[20:44] <sku> kilroy: don't know, how do i find out?
[20:44] <jorman> by reading other answers I've found how to disable the Sleep hotkey alltogether :)
[20:44] <ferronica> cberlo: no one here using UPS strange
[20:44] <jorman> which is what I wanted to do in the end :)
[20:44] <cberlo> jorman: http://blog.paulbetts.org/index.php/2007/02/11/fixing-software-suspend-hibernate-with-uswsusp-in-ubuntu-feisty-and-edgy/ may help
[20:44] <Condoulo> wait, can somebody tell me this in dialog, because this is confusing with all the other messages inbetween
[20:44] <cberlo> jorman: seem to recall using it on this laptop a while back.
[20:44] <jorman> cberlo, will read, thx.
[20:44] <cberlo> ferronica: have you installed the APC software for Ubuntu?
[20:44] <Bikerbob> now you could go in your bios and disable the linux drive.. and see if it will boot the XP.. does that work Condoulo?
[20:45] <ferronica> cberlo: you mean apcupsd ?
[20:45] <cberlo> ferronica: Yep.
[20:46] <jorman> cberlo, system -> prefs -> power mgmt's accions on the General tab did the trick this time. I've completely disabled the Sleep key, which is what I wanted. thx.
[20:46] <jorman> thank you ppl, have a nice one!
[20:46] <jorman> bye
[20:46] <cberlo> jorman: Great!  Glad that worked!
[20:46] <adac2> can someone with an up to date 32 bit gutsy installation send me the ndiswrapper.ko file? I deleted mine and now it seems that it won't be created anymore even with a reinstall of the deb packages.. (:
[20:46] <ferronica> cberlo: i did
[20:46] <cberlo> ferronica: maybe try the web interface option?  Perhaps the GUI isn't 100% yet...?
[20:46] <Paulc> soundray: sorry to bother you, and thanks for the patience. I found instruction to install the new driver, but how do I remove the old one?
[20:47] <eddy_> I'm trying to add a command to a link, for example in windows I'd type: "bla.exe" commandhere  (But how do I do that in ubuntu?)
[20:47] <soundray> adac2: you probably need to reinstall the linux-image package to recover that
[20:47] <portablejim> What is an alternative program to Webmin, for easy computer adminstration?
[20:47] <soundray> Paulc: backup the current one and put the new one in it's place.
[20:47] <soundray> s/it's/its/ (I hate it when that happens)
[20:47] <bulmer> eddy_-> thats called command line option..same in linux
[20:48] <eddy_> bulmer, i dont see it, but ill look again
[20:48] <bullgard4> ikonia: I disagree with that "it depends how that chart is made". My laptop computer shows a similar behaviour. I would like to find out why. This situation is independent of the way a start diagram is drawn. --  I do not think that getty is starting only after my login.
[20:48] <bulmer> eddy_-> which command do you want to run?
[20:48] <Paulc> soundray: how do I do that?
[20:48] <ferronica> cberlo: check PM
[20:48] <ferronica> cberlo: got
[20:48] <ferronica> cberlo: here what get after installing apcupsd
[20:49] <eddy_> when i create a link it doesn't let me add a command line option... ?
[20:49] <Patchak> I started tasksel and selected LAMP server, now that stuff seems to want to uninstall all my installed packets??
[20:49] <arc^^> Anybody know a guide on how to modify an ubuntu package source for your own use?
[20:49] <soundray> Paulc: 'sudo cp /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00/rt2500usb.ko ~/rt2500usb-backup.ko' to backup
[20:49] <cberlo> ferronica: From my experience, that looks about right, actually.
[20:49] <eddy_> bulmer, im using wine, it's this: "eqhost.exe" patchme
[20:49] <pete83> Patchak: like what?
[20:50] <spidermanblack> ola
[20:50] <abe_> hi, everone, i can't delete a virus from my flash memory
[20:50] <spidermanblack> alguem?
[20:50] <paolo_> c'è un italiano??^^""
[20:50] <soundray> Paulc: to put the newly compiled one in it's place, 'sudo cp rt2500usb.ko /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00/'
[20:50] <erUSUL> !it
[20:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:50]  * soundray did it again, arrgh! 
[20:50] <Patchak> pastebin?
[20:50] <ferronica> cberlo: but no ups discharge ups alarm
[20:51] <pete83> Patchak: ok
[20:51] <cberlo> ferronica: I think you should check to see if a bug has been filed for this.  You might find more info.  If no bug, it looks like you've found one.
[20:51] <adac2> soundray: linux-image-generic?
[20:51] <eddy_> bulmer?  you there?
[20:51] <dmb> is there a way to get the uncompress generic linux kernel that ubuntu uses?
[20:51] <bulmer> eddy_-> yeam am here,
[20:51] <soundray> Paulc: if you're running a different kernel, adapt the pathnames. If uname -r says 2.6.24-14-generic' then you're okay
[20:51] <Bikerbob> Condoulo? if your still there you can also  boot into your linux and rewrite your menu.lst.. to include the xp if you know it works
[20:51] <ferronica> cberlo: :(
[20:51] <soundray> adac2: no
[20:51] <dmb> i'm trying to use oprofile
[20:52] <erUSUL> dmb: the source code?
[20:52] <Patchak> pete83, http://drupalbin.com/181
[20:52] <dmb> erUSUL: i mean without building it
[20:52] <Patchak> all those seems to me wtf is going on it seems it'S removing everything
[20:52] <bulmer> dmb-> umm kernel in /boot/grub are compressed noh?
[20:52] <cberlo> ferronica: set in Windows, the alarm works as expected, right?
[20:52] <eddy_> bulmer, when i create a link i dont even have an option to add a command line, what am i doing wrong?
[20:52] <soundray> adac2: that's a metapackage, it won't actually replace anything. Do a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r)'
[20:52] <erUSUL> !info kernel-source
[20:52] <ubotu> Package kernel-source does not exist in gutsy
[20:52] <soundray> instead
[20:52] <ferronica> cberlo: yes alarm works in xp
[20:52] <erisco> how do you remove a package with GDebi?
[20:52] <bulmer> eddy_-> how are you creating the link? what command are you using?
[20:53] <Paulc>  soundray: thank you, I will go and try that out now. Thanks again. See you!
[20:53] <ferronica> cberlo: not in ubuntu :(
[20:53] <ferronica> cberlo: big problem :(
[20:53] <eddy_> Bulmer, I right-click on a file then click "Make link"
[20:53] <Patchak> my god..will I have to reinstall ubuntu?? it just says to lauch te debian installer and to select LAMP. why would it delete al;l packs?
[20:53] <cberlo> ferronica: Okay, you've eliminated the hardware aspect of things, then.  I do recall a command line interface for settings with the apcupsd; you may want to see if you can set the alarm/shutdown settings that way?
[20:53] <abe_> i think i have a virus in wine
[20:53] <bulmer> eddy_-> make link to what?
[20:53] <adac2>  soundray: thx i will try that!
[20:53] <pedro> good afternoon
[20:54] <cberlo> abe_: That's easy:  delete your .wine directory and it's gone.  :)
[20:54] <ferronica> cberlo: ok
[20:54] <erUSUL> !kernel | dmb
[20:54] <ubotu> dmb: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[20:54] <pete83> Patchak: no, WTF. Don't get rid of those packages
[20:54] <eddy_> bulmer, to the file I click on, it makes one - but i have no way to add any commands
[20:54] <pedro> I would like to know the way to change the color of the text that uses aMule
[20:54] <ikonia> pete83 please don't use phrases like WTF
[20:54] <bulmer> eddy_-> look at its properties
[20:54] <pedro> I barely cannot read it
[20:54] <eddy_> bulmer, i am
[20:54] <abe_> now i understand why i can't delete the virus from the flash memory, is in my wine directory
[20:54] <dmb> erUSUL: i'm just wondering if there is a way to decompress it :D
[20:54] <erUSUL> !info kernel-source | dmb
[20:54] <ubotu> dmb: Package kernel-source does not exist in gutsy
[20:54] <dmb> i want to avoid compiling
[20:54] <eddy_> bulmer, i see 5 tabs, nothing to add commands to
[20:54] <Patchak> pete83, well it's just too late!!! I installed LAMPand allthe packages are getting uninstalled
[20:55] <erUSUL> !info linux-source | dmb
[20:55] <ubotu> dmb: linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB
[20:55] <pete83> ikonia: Sorry, I forgot you were an 18th century victorian. Won't happen again
[20:55] <Patchak> does that make any sense... man
[20:55] <dmb> erUSUL: i'm trying to use oprofile
[20:55] <ikonia> pete83 I'm not, but the channels have rules on langauge, so drop the attitude and get with the program
[20:55] <pete83> Patchak: what program did you use to select task anyways?
[20:55] <erUSUL> dmb: do you already have the kernel source?
[20:55] <erUSUL> dmb: where did you get it?
[20:55] <bulmer> eddy_-> what do you want to do with the file? which file is this?
[20:55] <NewUserr> hi guys i ran a program with wine but it didnt work how can i delete these files again?
[20:55] <Patchak> pete83, tasksel
[20:55] <dmb> erUSUL: yes, but i want to debug the default kernel that ubuntu provides
[20:56] <ikonia> dmb debug ?
[20:56] <eddy_> bulmer, its a Wine file - an .exe that needs a command to patch the file
[20:56] <dmb> i mean run oprofile
[20:56] <pete83> Patchak: hmm... I could do it in Synaptic, which might have been better
[20:56] <ikonia> dmb: you want to profile the current running kernel ?
[20:56] <bulmer> eddy_-> you run wine.exe and then an option to it right?
[20:56] <dmb> ikonia: yes
[20:56] <Patchak> pete83, tasksel
[20:56] <ikonia> dmb: what sort of results are you hoping to gain ?
[20:56] <NewUserr> hi guys i ran a program with wine but it didnt work how can i delete these files again?
[20:56] <Patchak> pete83, well ubuntu help pags sent me to that
[20:56] <erUSUL> dmb: ubuntu patches its kernel heavely. i've never used oprofile if you need the sources of you running kernel install the package ubotu said
[20:57] <eddy_> bulmer, no, the new version of wine won't let me. it has no "Wine file" anymore.  (all i can do is click on the exe to run it.)
[20:57] <Patchak> andnow it seems to just be killing the whole system
[20:57] <dmb> well, its for a project, i'm trying to debug something relating
[20:57] <pete83> ikonia: Show me the written rules, or give me a link, or else stop bullying users
[20:57] <ikonia> pete83: the rules and guidlines are in the topic
[20:57] <ikonia> pete83: asking someone to not use offensive language is not bullying
[20:57] <ikonia> pete83: as I said, those are the rules, drop the attitude and get with them
[20:57] <bulmer> eddy_-> look at the properties of that icon and see whats bedhing it, maybe adding the file option
[20:57] <soundray> pete83: stop this discussion please, it's pointless and you're in the wrong.
[20:57] <cberlo> Well folks, gotta run.  Thanks for the suggestion, joebob777as7.  I'll see if a simple reconfigure fixes me up.  Otherwise, I don't mind the reload -- at least it's not Vista (30 min. vs. ???)
[20:57] <pete83> ikonia: there is nothing about it in the topic
[20:57] <ikonia> dmb: I'm trying to assertain what sort of output your looking for  ?
[20:58] <ikonia> pete83: there are links to be read in the topic
[20:58] <erisco>                                                                                how do you uninstall a package installed with a deb?
[20:58] <ikonia> pete83: or you're welcome to join #ubuntu-ops and ask about the rules
[20:58] <Patchak> pete83, is there nayway to just reinstall everything you think?
[20:58] <ikonia> !coc >pete83
[20:58] <pete83> ikonia: and none of them say what you claim. Send me the link
[20:58] <dmb> ikonia: its something someone else is going to be analyzing
[20:58] <dmb> so i don't really know
[20:58] <eddy_> bulmer, ok ill look again for something to modify
[20:58] <ikonia> pete83: you can also read the link from ubotu
[20:58] <bulmer> eddy_-> thats why i dont use gui that much, i select the option i wish to use in the cli
[20:58] <dmb> i just need the compresses version of of the kernel
[20:58] <ikonia> dmb can you get a little bit of info as what your asking doesn't add up
[20:58] <dmb> uncompressed*
[20:59] <ikonia> dmb: thats going to require a rebuild
[20:59] <pete83> Patchak: yes, the package ubuntu-desktop should depend on all those packages that got removed
[20:59] <ikonia> pete83: the link from ubotu will show you the guidelines of the channel
[20:59] <sku> can someone tell me which files ubuntu uses for wifi config?  Wifi is working from the live cd but not the installed version, so i thought maybe i could copy the config files over?
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> dmb: Source
[20:59] <pete83> ikonia: thank you, I am reading it now
[20:59] <dmb> ikonia: :(
[20:59] <ikonia> pete83: super
[20:59] <ikonia> dmb: sorry
[20:59] <eddy_> bulmer, thanks, im trying to run the client
[20:59] <dmb> are you sure theres no way to uncompress vmlinuz?
[20:59] <ikonia> dmb: if you can find out some more info we may be able to offer alternatives
[20:59] <ikonia> dmb: not really no
[20:59] <eddy_> bulmer, you mean run usr/bin/wine ?
[20:59] <dmb> like the boot loader does when we boot
[21:00] <ExalleR> How do you install a Beryl Theme on Ubuntu 7.10?
[21:00] <ikonia> dmb: yes, you can uncompress it totally, just not how you expect it to
[21:00] <bulmer> eddy_-> yes you can run it as /usr/bin/wine -o optionhere args
[21:00] <ikonia> ExalleR: berly is dead so I'm not sure if the themes work
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ExalleR: not nrrdrd
[21:00] <dmb> ikonia: how can i uncompress it totally?
[21:00] <bobgill> what command can I use to list all running processes in terminal, with output sufficient for pastebin to clearly see all processes ?
[21:00] <eddy_> bulmer, will try, thanks!
[21:00] <ExalleR> 2bad..
[21:00] <pete83> ikonia: that's a great Code of Conduct. It is all about attitudes of respect and cooperation. But it says NOTHING about vulgar expressions of surprise, which is what I was using.
[21:01] <ikonia> dmb you can't really
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz-fusion
[21:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:01] <fixl> how can i activate the 3d cube
[21:01] <ikonia> pete83 respect to others is not bad langague
[21:01] <ikonia> pete83: the bottom line is, don't use bad language
[21:01] <kdubois> fixl: increase desktop size from default 2 to 4
[21:01] <pete83> ikonia: no, bad language is often disrespectful, but in my case it was clearly not a personal attack
[21:02] <ikonia> pete83: I didn't say it was a personal attack I asked you not to use it. Either don't use it, or take the issue up in #ubuntu-ops
[21:02] <soundray> pete83: can you PLEASE put it to rest now
[21:02] <bulmer> dmb you know during boot, the kernel gets expanded and loaded, find the program that does that
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic
[21:02] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:02] <fixl> kdubois:  where?
[21:02] <erisco> how do you uninstall deb packages?!?!?!?!?!?!
[21:02] <erisco> this is important!
[21:02] <ikonia> erisco: apt-get remove ?
[21:02] <pete83> ikonia: but it's only disrespectful if its an attack
[21:02]  * gnuskool walks placidly amidst the noise n haste
[21:02] <dmb> bulmer: boot loader does that
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> erisco: where did you get the deb that is a problem?
[21:02] <erUSUL> erisco: with apt or synaptic or dpkg -r package
[21:02] <erisco> ikonia, it was installed by a deb package... particularly swiftweasel
[21:02] <ikonia> pete83: don't use the language, or take it up in ubuntu-ops
[21:02] <pete83> ok
[21:03] <kdubois> erisco: read the contents of 'man dpkg'
[21:03] <sku> can someone tell me which files ubuntu uses for wifi config?  Wifi is working from the live cd but not the installed version, so i thought maybe i could copy the config files over?
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: Drop it..
[21:03] <ikonia> erisco you can still use apt
[21:03] <Dj_remix> ok
[21:03] <bulmer> dmb-> then look at uboot or whatever bootloader has to expand those
[21:03] <erisco> erUSUL, dpkg won't work :(
[21:03] <erisco> ikonia, how?
[21:03] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: no you
[21:03] <ray__> ok i have downloaded the ATI driver from their webstite but icant get it to run through the command line any reason why?
[21:03] <erUSUL> erisco: error msg?
[21:03] <ikonia> erisco: apt-get remove
[21:03] <erUSUL> !paste | erisco
[21:03] <ubotu> erisco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:03] <dmb> (grub)
[21:03] <erisco> erUSUL, I provide the deb file, but it says it wants the package name
[21:03] <dan> erisco: sudo apt-get remove
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: You are being disrespectfull to the entire channel..
[21:03] <bulmer> sku-> look in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:03] <ConstyXIV> Is there some way you can get files from a machine you're SSH'd into?
[21:03] <kakoonia> !msn
[21:03] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[21:03] <munkeyman> i am trying to get a networked hp psc2700 series to work with ubuntu 7.10 and i'm having problems, anyone mind helping me out for a sec?
[21:03] <erUSUL> erisco: use the filename without the extension
[21:03] <dmb> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=568320&highlight=oprofile that person has the same problem ias me
[21:04] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: thank you for your input. I like collaberating with you like this
[21:04] <dan> ConstyXIV: SCP
[21:04] <ray__> where do i run a .run file from?
[21:04] <bwayne> how's the 'gutsy-proposed' repo added to sources.list?  is it its own separate repo or can one simply add 'gutsy-proposed' to the array?
[21:04] <erisco> erUSUL, it says it is not installed
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic | pete83
[21:04] <ubotu> pete83: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:04] <kdubois> fixl: the parts about the -r flag and purge
[21:04] <erisco> erUSUL, it is installed... swiftweasel is running
[21:04] <ConstyXIV> dan:i know how to send files with SCP, but how about the other way around?
[21:04] <erUSUL> erisco: make a search 'apt-cache search filename'
[21:05] <fixl> kdubois: i'm a newbie ...
[21:05] <kdubois> fixl: basically dpkg -r will remove the heart of the program and leave configuration files and dpkg --purge will remove everything
[21:05] <fixl> i read something about "compize"
[21:05] <ConstyXIV> without running a ssh server on the client, that is
[21:05] <angasule> hey, is http://www.ubuntugames.org associated with canonical?
[21:05] <erUSUL> erisco: example 'apt-cache search weasel'
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz-fusion
[21:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:05] <erisco> erUSUL, it says the package is 0 bits
[21:05] <erisco> erUSUL, something is wrong :(
[21:06] <erUSUL> erisco: did you get the package name? with apt-cache search ?
[21:06] <erisco> erUSUL, yes
[21:06] <kilroy4> CondtyXIV: i'm pretty sure that you dont need to run a ssh server on the client to SCP
[21:06] <ikonia> kilroy4: correct
[21:06] <erUSUL> erisco: then use it eith apt-get remove --purge
[21:07] <erUSUL> with*
[21:07] <kilroy4> CondtyXIV: although i haven't done it through the command line i have been able to use Putty from windows to a *nix box running ssh
[21:07] <erisco> erUSUL, it seems to have uninstalled
[21:07] <erUSUL> erisco: :)
[21:08] <kakoonia> !webcam
[21:08] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[21:09] <kakoonia> !ipod
[21:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[21:09] <erisco> erUSUL, I get very nervous with this whole package thing. I don't want my system to break
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> erisco: have you made a full backup yet.. it is very easy...
[21:09] <erisco> Jack_Sparrow, I am interested...
[21:10] <erUSUL> erisco: then install only from official repos through synaptic or Add/remove programs
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> erisco: Just one line in a terminal can take care of everything
[21:10] <ikonia> dmb: you'll need to rebuild
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[21:10] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[21:10] <erUSUL> erisco: do not install random deb packages from some website ;)
[21:10] <dmb> hmm
[21:10] <cayres> what version of libmysqlclient should I install?  theres 10, 12, 14, 15, *-dev versions and 15off
[21:10] <erisco> erUSUL, this is a specific howto for getting 32bit firefox running
[21:10] <erisco> erUSUL, it is on ubuntuforums
[21:10] <erisco> erUSUL, I just misread it is all
[21:10] <kane77> erUSUL, although if you want the bleeding edge.. you have to ;)
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> erisco: I agree that staying in the official repo will make your life easy
[21:11] <dmb> i wonder why oprofile can't just use the compressed copy of the kernel
[21:11] <kane77> erisco, and safe...
[21:11] <ogzy> does giving default policicy as ACCEPT to tables in iptables means disabling it?
[21:11] <erisco> Jack_Sparrow, unfortunately there is no 64-bit java plugin for firefox
[21:11] <soundray> kane77: if you want the bleeding edge, you don't want Ubuntu. You want Debian Sid.
[21:11] <ikonia> dmb: the overhead of uncompressing it would cause false results I guess
[21:11] <erisco> Jack_Sparrow, I had no option
[21:11] <ikonia> dmb: but that is only a guess
[21:11] <ikonia> dmb: plus profiling is normally done in developments
[21:11] <ogzy> i want something /etc/init.d/iptables stop but there is no script under init.d
[21:11] <erUSUL> erisco: there is the icedtea one not sure how well it runs though
[21:12] <ikonia> ogzy: write one, plenty of examples on google
[21:12] <Jack_Sparrow> erisco: not a tremendous diff 64 to 32, I would stick with 32...
[21:12] <erisco> erUSUL, it doesn't work
[21:12] <dmb> ikonia: this is technically for developments
[21:12] <erisco> Jack_Sparrow, nah
[21:12] <kane77> soundray, but I like ubuntu... I've been with it for almost 3 years.. :)
[21:12] <erUSUL> erisco: :( too bad
[21:12] <dmb> i might just have to recompimle
[21:12] <ikonia> dmb: then they should be able to rebuild the kernel from the ubuntu source package
[21:13] <dmb> ikonia: its something specific to my computer
[21:13] <ikonia> dmb: and ?
[21:13] <dmb> the hardware
[21:13] <ikonia> dmb: and ?
[21:13] <dmb> its something relating to kvm, but won't go into that
[21:13] <ikonia> dmb: not sure how thats relevant
[21:14] <bobgill> what command can I use to list all running processes in terminal, with output sufficient for pastebin to clearly see all processes ?
[21:14] <ikonia> bobgill: ps -ef
[21:14] <bruenig> ps -A
[21:14] <kane77> bobgill, ps -A
[21:14] <bruenig> -A dominates -ef
[21:14] <kane77> bobgill, or ps -aux
[21:15] <bruenig> -A dominates aux too
[21:15] <ExalleR> how do you install the ATI driver on ubuntu 7.10?
[21:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[21:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:15] <ikonia> ExalleR: use the restricted driver manager
[21:15] <kilroy4> use nvidia!
[21:15] <sku> bulmer: thanks :)  but /etc/network/interfaces only has "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback", which is the same in both live and installed, so the problem must lie elsewhere.  Have you any idea how I might track down the change?  Might it be something to do with unloaded kernel modules?
[21:15] <bobgill> bruenig: what does it mean to "dominate" the command?
[21:15] <ExalleR> thx
[21:15] <bruenig> bobgill, you know
[21:15] <bobgill> it's the same thing?
[21:15] <kilroy4> sku: did you use those commands that i sent you?
[21:16] <gnuskool> pwn
[21:16] <dmb> ikonia: i'm just going to rebuild it myself
[21:16] <ikonia> dmb: ok
[21:16] <ICQnumber_> how to scroll xterm window with the keyboard?
[21:16] <sku> kilroy4: what commands?  i didn't realize i had received any commands...
[21:16] <bulmer> sku what is this for? and how did you checked that when you were running while on liveCD ?
[21:16] <kane77> ICQnumber_, shift+pageup
[21:16] <kane77> ICQnumber_, I guess..
[21:16] <kilroy4> sku: you can use lspci and lsusb to figure out what hardware you have
[21:17] <kilroy4> sku: once you know that we can help you load the correct modules
[21:17] <Draconicus> Hi there. I've just plugged in a USB mic. I want to adjust the volume with alsamixer or something. What's the device node it would be mapped to?.
[21:17] <Draconicus> -.
[21:17] <sjhiz> anyone available to help with an update manager error?
[21:17] <tardsandwich> howdy
[21:17] <kane77> !any | sjhiz
[21:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about any - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:18] <tardsandwich> I have an NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB Video card and when i installed the NVIDIA latest driver, it went to the proper resolution and everything, then whenever i reboot it goes into UBUNTU SAFE GRAPHICS MODE, its rather annoying, i have been checking forums and google and cant find anyone that can give me a simple fix
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sjhiz: have you changed any sources?
[21:18] <tardsandwich> what do i need to do
[21:18] <sjhiz> no, let me get the exact error verbiage...
[21:18] <sjhiz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[21:18] <sjhiz> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tardsandwich: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:19] <Draconicus> tardsandwich: Make sure you select the nvidia driver when you do that.
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sjhiz: close the other open package manager
[21:19] <kane77> sjhiz, have you tried the suggestion it gave you?
[21:19] <sjhiz> the other package manager? I have more than one?
[21:19] <justin420> can anybody tell me why your 2 panels wouldnt appear to be loaded and some buttons dont show up when you start your x-session with compiz-fusion on gutsy using a nvidia card, im using nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new ( due to dvi problems )?
[21:19] <kilroy4> sku: have you had any luck with those commands?
[21:19] <ICQnumber_> kane77, yes , u r right, ty
[21:19] <sjhiz> I know there's synaptic, but I tdon't see it running
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sjhiz:if you have one open... have you tried that command in a termional like the error asks?
[21:19] <tardsandwich> Draconicus: i have treid that with multiple resolutions and it does the same thing on reboot :-/
[21:19] <sjhiz> I'm pretty new here
[21:20] <tardsandwich> Jack_Sparrow: i will try the dpkg
[21:20] <sjhiz> yes, and it tells me I need superuser privleges?
[21:20] <tardsandwich> Jack_Sparrow: after I do that command do I need to reinstall the nvidia driver or what
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sjhiz: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:20] <Draconicus> tardsandwich: What nvidia drivers are you using? Are you installing from the package manager or from the website?
[21:20] <sjhiz> I'll run that code again and get the error prompt for it
[21:21] <atlfalcons866> is it better to have swap file or swap parititon
[21:21] <tardsandwich> Draconicus: i have to use the ones from the website, because my card is 3 months old and the ubuntu repos dont have a new enough driver
[21:21] <justin420> anybody?
[21:21] <sku> kilroy4: just trying to see which is the right line in lsmod
[21:21] <Malfist> apt-get source or apt-get build-dep doesn't work, it tells me it can't find the package, but apt-get install works and so does aptitude
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> tardsandwich: that will let you try differnet setups, then startx.. if it wont start try again, or set to vesa for basic gui to work
[21:21] <sku> maybe r8169
[21:21] <sku> kilroy4: maybe r8169
[21:21] <Draconicus> tardsandwich: I see. Had you attempted to use the repo's drivers first? If so you should make sure they're completely uninstalled. I'm sorry, but I have to go.
[21:21] <tardsandwich> Jack_Sparrow: the thing is, i had it working, its only on reboot that it goes back to safe graphics
[21:22] <kilroy4> sku: that sounds like it might be it....you have no clue what card you have?
[21:22] <kane77> atlfalcons866, I'd say swap partition... and I try to keep it on different disk than system, although it rarely gets written on...
[21:22] <tardsandwich> Jack_Sparrow: and the vesa drivers only allow for 800x600, which doesnt work on a 24" monitor
[21:22] <kilroy4> sku: lsmod will print out the modules that are running
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> tardsandwich: you need to post your xorg to the pastebin and provide a link so others here can look it over
[21:22] <Malfist> tardsandwich Have you tried Envy?
[21:22] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[21:22] <kilroy4> sku: lets first figure out what card you have and the modules that it needs to run
[21:22] <Malfist> apt-get source or apt-get build-dep doesn't work, it tells me it can't find the package, but apt-get install works and so does aptitude
[21:22] <sku> kilroy4: thing is, it is already setup and already works right now in the live cd, so can't i just copy the settings over?
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: Wash your mouth out with soap]
[21:23] <justin420> hi ubuntu_
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !envy
[21:23] <sku> kilroy4: ok
[21:23] <tardsandwich> Malfist: yeah, and the envy manual install works, but then i reboot and same Safe Mode error
[21:23] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:23] <atlfalcons866> kane77: i am in a position that i need it to be a swap file
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: a horrible thing to suggest
[21:23] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: why? Envy was the _only_ thing that worked for me
[21:23] <kilroy4> sku: i suppose you could but i suspect that there is a module not being loaded
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> tardsandwich: then that is where your problems start...
[21:23] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: X kept kicking the nvidia binary driver and the nvidia driver from nvidia.orgh
[21:23] <tardsandwich> Jack_Sparrow: no, i HATE gui apps like that but it was a last resort, since nothing else has worked
[21:24] <kakoonia> someone can help me out with installing avant-window navigator, i got kiba.. but its too much bullshit in one deal.. and not so stable..
[21:24] <sjhiz> looks like it was an earlier bro9ken package screwed everything up, code worked this try thanks
[21:24] <Malfist> apt-get source or apt-get build-dep doesn't work, it tells me it can't find the package, but apt-get install works and so does aptitude
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tardsandwich: It is a lazy mans way out
[21:24] <Malfist> any one know how to fix that?
[21:24] <mnicholas> why did my wireless connection stop working ?
[21:24] <gaurav_> no
[21:24] <Malfist> mnicholas: that was a helpful message
[21:25] <kane77> kakoonia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2307772
[21:25] <kilroy4> sku: any luck?
[21:25] <mnicholas> Malfist: I'm looking for help
[21:25] <jazon> i am having a problem.... my mate's youngster did a d-u to gutsy from fiesty, and cocked it all up... however, I have recovered most of it, but cant get the wifi to work.  it works with the liveCD, but not with the install...  it works if i boot to the old kernel as well
[21:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: have you looked at your sources.list?
[21:25] <tardsandwich> Jack_Sparrow: I am reading so if you find an answer for me I will gladly attempt it, but ive been through many different configs and still keeps going to safe graphics on reboot --- ive been using linux for 13 years and never had an issue with X
[21:25] <jazon> is there a way i can chroot into it or something and make it work?
[21:25] <tardsandwich> xf86 or xorg
[21:25] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: No, I assume it's valid, aptitude and apt-get work just fine for installing things
[21:25] <sku> kilroy4: ok, r8169 is a network card, and it a loaded module, so it loks like it
[21:25] <tardsandwich> ive never had a 300$ video card either
[21:25] <tardsandwich> til now
[21:25] <tardsandwich> i usually dont use "bleeding edge" hardware
[21:25] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I enabled everything through synaptic and added the wine repository
[21:26] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: nothing looked wrong
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tardsandwich: If you have been with linux that long you should know what going outside of the reops can do and how it is not easy to undo, which is why we dont support or recommend it..
[21:26] <Chewy954> whats the ubuntu equivelant to windows ipconfig?
[21:26] <FroG]|> hi all
[21:26] <erUSUL> tardsandwich: what drivers are you using?
[21:26] <kane77> Chewy954, ifconfig
[21:26] <FroG]|> i've a pb with gdesklets and lm-sensors
[21:26] <mnicholas> Chewy954: ifconfig
[21:26] <erUSUL> Chewy954: ip or ifconfig
[21:26] <tardsandwich> erUSUL: the latest nvidia drivers from their website
[21:26] <FroG]|> can anyone help me ?
[21:26] <kilroy4> sku: does anything show up on ifconfig -a besides the loopback?
[21:26] <Chewy954> thanks
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: put it in the pastebin....
[21:26] <mnicholas> Chewy954: use the "route" command to add a default gateway
[21:26] <jazon> Chewy954: ifconfig
[21:26] <tardsandwich> erUSUL: 100.14.19
[21:27] <chris__> Can anyone help with FireFox not connecting to internet please?
[21:27] <multiverse> Hi, how do I clear up a ban?
[21:27] <kane77> multiverse, a ban on what?
[21:27] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.pastebin.org/9636
[21:27] <sku> kilroy4: yup, eth0, wlan0, wmaster0
[21:27] <multiverse> I was banned, and I'd like to come back and behave (essentially I promise not to promote Automatix2 the apparent reason for my ban.)
[21:28] <ejandi> just installed ubuntu 7.10 but i discovered that my desktop crashes when eva i start up my system
[21:28] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: No, I didn't add the wine repos, that must have been before the reformat
[21:28] <sku> kilroy4: but none have anything identifying it
[21:28] <kilroy4> sku: now run a iwconfig and let me know what it says
[21:28] <Jack_Sparrow> chris__: 64.233.161.18 2          type that in friefox
[21:28] <blubloblu> ejandi: what exactly happens?
[21:28] <kane77> multiverse, you mean on ubuntuforums?
[21:28] <kilroy4> sku: what do you mean that it has nothing identifying it?
[21:28] <multiverse> yes
[21:28] <multiverse> well
[21:28] <erUSUL> tardsandwich: edit /etc/modprobe.d/lrm-video and comment the lines concerning nvidia.
[21:28] <multiverse> on #ubuntu
[21:29] <multiverse> astro76 banned me
[21:29] <Malfist> multiverse: they won't ban you for that, I wouldn't think
[21:29] <multiverse> like 3 days ago
[21:29] <Kartoffelsalat> anyone uses gettext?
[21:29] <ejandi> blublolu: my wall paper does not show and my files and folder in the dsktop does not also show
[21:29] <Malfist> Kartoffelsalat: I have
[21:29] <Centaur5> I'm following the howto on installing smartlink modem drivers and get an error "kernel-ver.c:11 error: UTS_RELEASE undeclared" when I try to run "sudo module-assistant auto-install sl-modem".  Any ideas?
[21:29] <Malfist> Kartoffelsalat: just for building software, not explicitly
[21:29] <kane77> multiverse, but you're here, right?
[21:29] <multiverse> I was banned by astro76 and ops because I was promoting the usage of Automatix2
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: adding insult to injury.. you used automatix....
[21:29] <multiverse> I'm on a different network for the short term
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: Reinstall....  everything
[21:29] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I looked at it, I didn't install anything with it
[21:29] <multiverse> How do I contact the current op?
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: ugh
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: remove that repo
[21:30] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: you're nuts, the only thing automatix did was add that repo
[21:30] <Kartoffelsalat> Malfist: i want to use it in connection with php. maybe you have an idea why this php port thinks that he must add "LC_MESSAGES" to the path to the mo file?
[21:30] <Malfist> Kartoffelsalat: Nope, sorry
[21:31] <sku> kilroy4: ok, wlan0 is connected to the AP.  there are a few hex numbers
[21:31] <sku> kilroy4: but nothing describing the name of the card
[21:31] <toresn> how do i make terminals focus when i hover the mouse over them?
[21:31] <phildard755> hello
[21:31] <kilroy4> sku: then it appears that it is working fine
[21:31] <ejandi> my desktop crashes wen eva i turn on my system..pls is they any other one they
[21:31] <multiverse> How do I get unbanned from #ubuntu?
[21:31] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I removed it and ran apt-update and I get this error: http://www.pastebin.org/9637
[21:31] <kilroy4> sku: eth1      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"SPCPublic"
[21:31] <kilroy4>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:0B:86:A6:8F:F0
[21:31] <kilroy4>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:15 dBm
[21:31] <kilroy4>           Retry limit:15   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[21:31] <kilroy4>           Power Management:off
[21:31] <multiverse> How do I contact the current op?
[21:31] <kilroy4>           Link Quality=71/100  Signal level=-62 dBm  Noise level=-63 dBm
[21:32] <kilroy4>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[21:32] <kilroy4>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:1364   Missed beacon:0
[21:32] <sku> kilroy4: indeed it is.  that's how i am talking to you ;)
[21:32] <kilroy4> sku: that is the output of mine
[21:32] <Malfist> multiverse: you're on ubuntu
[21:32] <kilroy4> sku: there need not be a card name or anything else there
[21:32] <phildard755> i have a problem with ubuntu
[21:32] <kilroy4> sku: if it isnt grabbing a ip address then just do a sudo dhcpcd wlan0
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: If I had a crystal ball I would say you added Wine with Automatix
[21:32] <phildard755> with udev
[21:33] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I used to use automatix to install the JDK and netbeans and flash
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: but you say not.. so ok..
[21:33] <SixFifty> Anybody have any idea how to fix the laptop suspend issue? I have a Geforce 2 go
[21:33] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: It looks like I did
[21:33] <sku> kilroy4: sorry, i'm in the live cd at the moment
[21:33] <multiverse> !ops multiverse help
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: So you were NOT telling the truth a minute ago that you only looked and did NOT install anything
[21:33] <kilroy4> sku: that souldnt matter
[21:33] <stdin> !ops
[21:33] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[21:33] <bruenig> !ops
[21:33] <amidaniel> Wee .. join flood
[21:33] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I said _used_ to as in past tense, previous versions of ubuntu
[21:34] <bruenig> +rR always gets them
[21:34] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: It doesn't have those anymore
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: Your current problem seems to be related.. did you upgrade from an install that DID have automatix run on it?
[21:35] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: No, ubuntu's update to gusty failed, horrible this is a fresh install
[21:35] <SixFifty> register
[21:35] <chris__> jack_sparrow :- hi I have done that in the web address bar - with same problem. I cannot load any web pages and have tried to find the fault in the network tab, but none found? I cahanged from Ubu Fawn to UbuCE edition for security access issues for the kids. Then FF loaded once, I imported my old bookmarks, closed and restarted then it stopped loading pages anymore!
[21:35] <SixFifty> register
[21:36] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: wine's repo isn't in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:36] <kakoonia> kane77 : when i tried to configure the AWN package, it prompted me the follwing line No package 'pycairo' found
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: which is one of the reasons it looked like you used automaitx to install it
[21:36] <phildard755> hello
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[21:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[21:37] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: wine? I downloaded the deb from their website
[21:37] <multiverse> LjL:  are you an op?
[21:37] <Tm_T> multiverse: yes?
[21:37] <LjL> multiverse: i'm kind of opped
[21:37] <SixFifty> Anybody have any idea how to fix the laptop suspend issue? I have a Geforce 2 go
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: Why, because you wanted bleeding edge...  now you are bleeding
[21:37] <Malfist> multiverse he did set some channel ops
[21:37] <multiverse> I was banned from #ubuntu on another IP address.
[21:37] <multiverse> How do I get back?
[21:37] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: No, because wine isn't in ubuntu's repos
[21:37] <phildard755> i have a problem with udev (udev: Dépend: volumeid (= 093-0ubuntu18.0edgy2) but 113-0ubuntu16 ....)
[21:38] <ikonia> Malfist: ban dodging is not a good way to start
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[21:38] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[21:38] <Malfist> ikonia: what?
[21:38] <LjL> multiverse: please leave this channel now, as you don't really want to evade a ban. ask in #ubuntu-ops instead.
[21:38] <multiverse> thanks
[21:38] <Malfist> ikonia: I'm not ban dodging, i've never been banned
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: not you
[21:38] <ikonia> Malfist: wrong person, stupid auto complete, sorry
[21:38] <multiverse> quit
[21:39] <kane77> SixFifty, suspend is very complex issue.. I've read something about suspend and nvidia drivers not going together...
[21:39] <LjL> Malfist, ikonia meant multiverse
[21:39] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: wine is removed from the system
[21:39] <ekim|linux> every package I have ever installed is in /var/cache/apt
[21:39] <ekim|linux> can I delete those
[21:39] <ekim|linux> what purpose do they server
[21:39] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: same error
[21:39] <ekim|linux> *serve
[21:39] <ekim|linux> It is taking up several gigs
[21:39] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I see it hitting wine's server
[21:40] <SixFifty> kane77, I have heard that too, strange thing is that it was working on the previous version
[21:40] <buzzsaw> if i know i need a package like gtktoolkit how do i go about using apt-get to find it?
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: I see wine when I run synaptic...
[21:40] <buzzsaw> because it does not list under that name
[21:40] <SixFifty> maybe it is a kernel thing
[21:40] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I uninstalled wine
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: I wont use it
[21:40] <kane77> SixFifty, anyway.. on my desktop it works (with nvidia geforce2)
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: How did you ininstall it
[21:41] <Jack_Sparrow> uninstall
[21:41] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: aptitude remove wine
[21:41] <SixFifty> kane77, how do you get yourself to show up in red like that?
[21:41] <SixFifty> is it a name thing?
[21:42] <kane77> buzzsaw, you can either start typing "sudo aptitude install gtktoo" and try to tab to see what options you have or you can "aptitude search blah"
[21:42] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: apt-get update fixed, removed wine from synapitic's repos through the gui
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: MAy I suggest you install wine from official repos.. multiverse or universe etc....
[21:42] <kane77> SixFifty, yes
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[21:42] <SixFifty> kane77, how clever thanks anyway, i'll try the forums
[21:42] <phildard755> hello
[21:42] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: done
[21:42] <kane77> buzzsaw, replace the blah with what you want to search for...
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: Sorry, I should have had you do update a long time ago..
[21:43] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[21:43] <ekim|linux> fine...
[21:43] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: that's were apt-get update's error was coming from
[21:43] <buzzsaw> ok now another question i know i have java of some sort installed but how to i find out what package?
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[21:43] <kdubois> what's some alternatives to cron?
[21:43] <ekim|linux> why ?
[21:43] <tsoul> hey guyz need some help please ?
[21:43] <jimmious> help! whenever i try to login i get a digital out of range message! probably did something wrong with the refresh rates or resolution. what can i do?
[21:44] <ekim|linux> there are different versions of cron...
[21:44] <wasabi> Is hoary archived anywhere?
[21:44] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: but I still have the problem of not being able to find sources or packages for apt-get source/build-dep for apt-build
[21:44] <tsoul> Im trying to edit Allow Users in the cups config page but dont know the correct separators to use ?
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: what was your link for your sources again?
[21:44] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I'm going to update it
[21:45] <tsoul> any ideas anyone ?
[21:45] <jakomo> hello all
[21:45] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: http://www.pastebin.org/9638
[21:46] <buzzsaw> kane77, thanks
[21:46] <mEck0> how can I import a csv-file to Evolution's calendar? because I just see that Evolution want to add the file contents to Contacts, which I don't want. Or can Evolution hanlde vcal or another format which I could convert the csv-file to?
[21:46] <jakomo> ok
[21:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: looks like a lot of your deb-src could not verify and were commented out..
[21:46] <bmk789> running 'show databases' in mysql outputs nothing but it should list several databases, how can i get my databases back?
[21:47] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't touched it, aside to remove automatix's
[21:47] <wasabi> Is there any old mirrors that contain hoary and warty releases?
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: uncomment the deb-src lines and see if it finds them
[21:47] <buzzsaw> ok i want to run icedtea rather than the java i have now how would i remove the one i have and put icedtea in its place?
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[21:47] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[21:47] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: okay, give me a few
[21:47] <wasabi> Uh huh. Security updates. Great. Don't care.
[21:47] <wasabi> Looking for original apt archives.
[21:48] <wasabi> ie unsupported blobs of data
[21:48] <jimmious> is there anyone that can help me?
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask
[21:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:48] <jimmious> help! whenever i try to login i get a digital out of range message! probably did something wrong with the refresh rates or resolution. what can i do?
[21:49] <jimmious> i asked a bit back :P
[21:49] <taz_> hi guys.. any one know about dvd movie.. it error.. it cant play movie ??
[21:49] <bmk789> !dvd | taz_
[21:49] <ubotu> taz_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:49] <taz_> yes
[21:49] <drewby> Hello, can anyone recommend a good Ubuntu - friendly RPG for a moderate-end computer?
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmious: boot recovery mode...   then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg      then startx
[21:49] <jimmious> ok
[21:49] <jimmious> thanks
[21:49] <jimmious> let me try that
[21:49] <jimmious> :0
[21:49] <jimmious> :)
[21:49] <buzzsaw> drewby, crossfire is great
[21:49] <drewby> My computer can't handle planeshift
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jimmious: vesa is failsafe
[21:50] <drewby> I'll check out crossfire, buzzsaw, thanks
[21:50] <buzzsaw> once i do an apt-get install do i need to do any cleanup
[21:50] <buzzsaw> drewby, crossfire.real-time.com
[21:50] <Lunks> My friend told me that there are differences between upgrading to Gutsy and installing it clean. Is it possible to make it change itself to how Gutsy looks like when installed clean?
[21:50] <drewby> thanks
[21:50] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: apt-get update looks to be getting data from sources
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Malfist: sorry I took the long way on that one
[21:51] <bmk789> how do i list databases in mysql?
[21:51] <LiENUS> relatively fresh inistall of ubuntu using the amd xorg driver i get graphical glitches (icons just appear as garbage)
[21:51] <kane77> drewby, I kind of like The Mana World...
[21:51] <jovas> alguem pode me der uma ajuda para instalar um driver???
[21:51] <LiENUS> any idea what it could be?
[21:51] <DivideZer> there is ChatZilla for windows ?
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks:  If you install gutsy clean.. it will look like gutsy
[21:52] <drewby> Is there anything set in a 3d environment?
[21:52] <taz_> it said
[21:52] <jovas> driver openchorme.sh
[21:52] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: It's working now, thank you
[21:52] <Jack_Sparrow> glad to hear it
[21:52] <taz_> To activate DVD decryption, type the following line into a terminal promp ,,,,,,,  copy then paste use this sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[21:53] <sn00zer> on my open office whenever i use bullets or numbering the box pops up with the options specific to those things but somehow it switched to fullscreen, how do i get these toolbars back to a manageable size
[21:53] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: no other way? don't want to install it again. :P
[21:53] <taz_> ubotu  .u see this if it correct ??
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: When you set it up this time...  make a partition for /home ....
[21:54] <Malfist> Jack_Sparrow: Now I can build firefox and maybe it will run faster :P
[21:54] <doseryder> I can't remember the name of the package for ssh daemon
[21:54] <jimmious> Jack_Sparrow it crashes when I startx
[21:54] <drewby> alright thanks all
[21:54] <drewby> byeeeeee
[21:54] <Centaur5> Restricted manager shows conexant driver is in use /dev/modem points to /dev/ttySL0 but /dev/ttySL0 doesn't exist.  How do I create that file so the modem can dial?
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: You can theme it to look close, but then there are lots of goodies you would miss
[21:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: You can also do a full backup and try the upgrade thing
[21:54] <jimmious> fatal IO error 104 connection reset by peer on x server ":0.0"
[21:55] <robbiev> hey all, sometime ago I read about potential modifications to apt that would only download the changed files from the repository and not the whole package. Does anybody know where I can about this?
[21:55] <doseryder> i checked http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/allpackages, there's like a bunch of them.  Which one is the most commonly used?
[21:55] <Malfist> robbiev: like deltas?
[21:55] <robbiev> Malfist: yes
[21:55] <abcent> Hi Guys/Ladies, Is there anyway to make desktop icons smaller to save desktop space?
[21:55] <Malfist> robbiev: I knew of one for portage, but not for ubuntu
[21:55] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: it's not that if I had home on a different partition, it'd be ok. I don't want to have to install all over again. If there's no way, ok then.
[21:55] <joevandyk> so, if Notification belongs_to :notification_for, :polymorphic => true, is there a way to easily search for a Notification given a notification_for object?
[21:56] <joevandyk> i could search by notification_for_class and notification_for_id, but that's kinda ugly
[21:56] <joevandyk> i figured there was some helper finder method
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: the upgrade should work..
[21:56] <santor> abcent: in gnome or kde?
[21:56] <kane77> joevandyk, wrong channel I guess... :)
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: You can always dual boot with your current and gutsy...
[21:56] <joevandyk> damn
[21:56] <joevandyk> lol
[21:56] <abcent> santor: kde
[21:56] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i believe I'll try it later. :P
[21:56] <jimmious> jack sparrow thanks a bunch!
[21:56] <jimmious> im in :)
[21:56] <santor> umm, not sure
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[21:57] <kane77> joevandyk, is that ruby?
[21:57] <santor> i higher resolution makes everything smaller, that coudl help
[21:57] <Malfist> robbiev: have you checked ubuntu forums or google?
[21:57] <Malfist> robbiev: that might tell you more, I can't help
[21:57] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: it's kinda odd but I get attached to my computer setup. :P
[21:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: We all do
[21:57] <abcent> santor: max res is 1440 x 900 .... and icons are way to big
[21:57] <joevandyk> kane77: yeah
[21:57] <santor> odd, in kde, hmm, not sure what to do
[21:58] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: as Ubuntu has some packages which will require reinstall/reconfigure, it's very sad to reinstall it all over again. :P
[21:58] <Malfist> Why does my apt-get always say "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" everytime I do something since I updated to gusty?
[21:58] <santor> now that i look at mine there pretty huge too
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: That is why I dual boot... I dont change until there are so many goodies I cant say no
[21:58] <abcent> santor: what desktop is default for Ubuntu 7.10? ... newbee here
[21:58] <santor> gnome
[21:58] <MasterShrek> gnome
[21:59] <MasterShrek> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce
[21:59] <buzzsaw> ok i did   apt-get install crossfire-maps and it said that it is already installed how do i find out where its installed to?
[21:59]  * N3bunel away
[21:59] <santor> kde is default on kubuntu, although you can convert between them
[21:59] <robbiev> Malfist: I have, but I keep getting the wrong information
[21:59] <abcent> santor: ok thats where i need to find a fix to min icons
[21:59] <Flare183> My U3 flash drive is acting weird today, all it shows is the cdrom part of the flash drive and not the flash drive part of it. I worked fine yesterday. Any Ideas?
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> you can have several wm's  and select which one under sessions at login
[21:59] <Malfist> robbiev: Sorry, ask on the forums?
[22:00] <santor> in gnome i think you can rightclick and resize your icons
[22:00] <haruspexed> hi
[22:00] <santor> but i switched to kde a few weeks ago
[22:00] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: But honestly, I don't see a point on not having a way to change everything to 'the gutsy way'. That shouldn't be too hard to create a metapackage which does it.
[22:00] <haruspexed> i have problem with usb tv card
[22:00] <abcent> santor: tried that on firefox etc... no luck
[22:00] <santor> i'm new to ubuntu but familiar with linux
[22:00] <santor> i kno what you mean
[22:01] <santor> when i was using gnome firefox was like a quarter of the whole screen
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Lunks: The upgrade does what most people want it to do
[22:01] <santor> kde is not as bad but the icons are kinda big
[22:01] <Dani_20> hello
[22:01] <abcent> santor: yeah, although not quite quater
[22:02] <santor> i supppose thats an exageration
[22:02] <Lunks> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I believe there aren't much complains about Ubuntu not changing everything on your setup. :P
[22:02] <EdgEy> anyone know of a good usb headset to use with ubuntu?
[22:02] <EdgEy> i can't use a normal microphone
[22:03] <EdgEy> because audigy2 drivers crap it and it's too quiet
[22:03] <parantbellum> hi
[22:03] <oobe> can anyone here provide me with technical support for my 486 pc KDE desktop wont load
[22:03] <Flare183> My U3 flash drive is acting weird today, all it shows is the cdrom part of the flash drive and not the flash drive part of it. I worked fine yesterday. Any Ideas?
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> oobe: how much ram on that 486?  and ouch.. why..
[22:04] <oobe> sorry i was only joking
[22:04] <oobe> lol
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> We have actually seen that here
[22:04] <oobe> really KDE?
[22:04] <oobe> or fluxbox :P
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> oobe: Amazing what people will try..
[22:04] <libnet-problem> hi i am tryin to install and i get this error checking for libnet... yes
[22:04] <libnet-problem> checking for version 1.1.x of libnet... no
[22:04] <libnet-problem> configure: error: Bad libnet version found in /libnet.h:  what to do
[22:04] <adac2> with modprobe ndiswrapper i get:  FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found any ideas?
[22:05] <void^> oobe: you can run kde 1.x just fine on any 486 :)
[22:05] <kane77> I doubt that.. with loads of ram maybe.. but my duron 1400MHz had problems with gnome...
[22:05] <nemo_work> Welp, I just added a "fuser -k /dev/snd/pcm*" as a desktop item under System on my mom's computer - I guess that's the best I can do until the Firefox bug is fixed.
[22:05] <oobe> most old 486 pcs wouldnt recognize a HD big enough to run the latest linux distros with KDE
[22:05] <nemo_work> heh. welp is in this channel too. oops
[22:05] <nemo_work> welp: sorry, I keep pinging you ;)
[22:06] <santor> but a linux distro wiht kde 1 would be small
[22:06] <santor> its old
[22:06] <davina> 504mb used to be the max for a HD on old bios
[22:06] <oobe> yeah true
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic
[22:06] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry....
[22:06] <oobe> i thought you were making a point lol
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> oobe: I am to blame too....  bad me...
[22:06] <pete83> !offtopic | Jack_Sparrow
[22:06] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks pete
[22:07] <oobe> actually you took my question seriously thats all
[22:07] <nemo_work> santor: my current linux laptop has only a little more than 500 megs of space :)
[22:07] <santor> wow
[22:07] <santor> ubuntu?
[22:07] <nemo_work> santor: 96MiB of memory, P1 processor (have a P2 laptop too)
[22:07] <oobe> what processor does it have
[22:07] <nemo_work> santor: naw, gentoo.
[22:08] <jakomo> ok
[22:08] <santor> oh yea
[22:08] <santor> gentoo could do that
[22:08] <nemo_work> santor: well, more tweakable.
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> If anyone has a question please speak up...  and we will shut up...
[22:08] <oobe> so could slackware
[22:08] <asn> Anyone who knows a bit of C and could answer a few questions of me?
[22:08] <Znuff> Hi. Some time ago there was a installer for ubuntu that would add a grub boot entry in windows' boot.ini. It's not WUBI. Anyone has an idea on what it was called?
[22:08] <santor> yup
[22:08] <santor> right
[22:08] <nemo_work> oobe: I used to be a big slackware fan.  gentoo automates the bits I want automated though
[22:09] <oobe> fair enough i loved slackware to
[22:09] <santor> grub in windows boot.ini, thats backwords to what i normally see
[22:09] <santor> really
[22:09] <oobe> now im a ubuntu user for sure
[22:09] <Znuff> santor, to install it.
[22:09] <santor> i've heard alot about gentoo
[22:09] <nemo_work> oobe: ubuntu is growing on me too, obviously, or I wouldn't be here ;)
[22:09] <oobe> its the first easy to use distro that doesnt break all the time
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> I seem to remember a multi bootloader that did something like that
[22:10] <oobe> that i have used
[22:10] <santor> Znuff: that seems odd, i've installed quite a few distros but never seen that, usually boot from cd, dvd, floppy, or network drive
[22:10] <Znuff> santor, I installed ubuntu on a cd-rom-less computer from windows. It was a simple .exe
[22:10] <santor> odd
[22:10] <Flare183> Anybody?
[22:11] <asn> Anyone who knows a bit of C and could answer a few questions of me? Please send me a PM.
[22:11] <santor> was it running simultaniously with windows?
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why
[22:11] <nemo_work> which reminds me.  question.  I need to verify that the evince bug referenced here: http://timesinker.blogspot.com/2007/10/why-does-evince-open-audio-device.html  and encountered on two computers running ubuntu by me is not a misconfiguration by me.   I'm hoping alsa + dmix should avoid locks - is there a nice page folks know of to go through and make sure everything is using alsa?
[22:11] <nemo_work> a checklist
[22:11] <Znuff> santor, no
[22:12] <nemo_work> that is the reason for the gksu fuser -k /dev/snd/pcm*  that I put into people's desktops
[22:12] <nemo_work> obviously killing the applications is not ideal
[22:12] <santor> did it run on a fat32 fromated drive?
[22:12] <santor> not sure how you would do that, i'm sure it could be done tho
[22:12] <nemo_work> Znuff: oh, right, there's that website with the installer
[22:12] <asn> pete83: I can't answer in PMs, because I'm not identified :(
[22:13] <Znuff> nemo_work, not Wubi
[22:13] <Znuff> santor, no dude, it was a simple concept
[22:13] <asn> pete83: but nice idea.
[22:13] <ekim|linux> Is there a ubuntu package for FUSE
[22:13] <ekim|linux> it is not in the default repos
[22:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[22:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:13] <nemo_work> Znuff: well, maybe it was wubi underneat, but that wasn't the name of the website... had some slick little campaign
[22:13] <santor> hmmm search ubuntu install from exe
[22:14] <santor> on google
[22:14] <Znuff> santor, grub can boot .iso's. So basically this thing added a wingrub entry in boot.ini, that wingrub booted a normal iso and you could have installed ubuntu just like a normal cd-rom
[22:14] <oobe> gutsy comes with ntfs-3g pre loaded
[22:14] <Znuff> I googled enough :0
[22:14] <santor> ic
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> nemo_work: sounds like wubi or a clone version of it.. still unsafe to run ubuntu like that
[22:14] <Znuff> you don't RUN IT
[22:14] <Znuff> You just START THE INSTALLER!
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ekim|linux: what version are you running?
[22:15] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: this actually did a dual boot
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa
[22:15] <santor> and it then boots a cd image that does the installation
[22:15] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: although I'd agree I wouldn't want to do that
[22:15] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: would freak me out too much.
[22:15] <RockyR_> Hey kids
[22:15] <santor> why not just boot from a network drive and install it thatway
[22:16] <santor> or boot a floppy that installs from an ftp server
[22:16] <nemo_work> santor: yep, or use an external USB CDROM drive
[22:16] <ekim|linux> nevermind
[22:16] <ekim|linux> I found it
[22:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[22:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:16] <Znuff> http://grub4dos.freespaces.com/
[22:16] <Znuff> it used this, grub4dos
[22:16] <nemo_work> santor: heck, I did that on one ancient server. USB1, 1x CDROM - was slooow, but better than mucking about with net boots :)
[22:17] <santor> its probably not arround anymore because its quite a backwards way to start a linux install
[22:17] <Lunks> Anyone tried to make a BartPE CD on Ubuntu?
[22:18] <doseryder> I'm having trouble with dmraid.  The raid set is visible under /dev/mapper/
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[22:18] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[22:18] <oobe> !offtopic
[22:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:18] <doseryder> but when I try to mount it (its a ntfs) its not recognizing it as a valid ntfs
[22:19] <Znuff> You need to take your head out of your asses. It's a perfectly valid way to start a linux install. You can start a linux install however you want to. Jesus christ... I've been using linux for more than 7 years and I'm not so closed minded like you.
[22:19] <Znuff> bye
[22:20] <nemo_work> sooo, before I run off, anyone have an opinion on the sound issue?
[22:20] <nemo_work> like, I really thought ALSA should avoid any locking problems.  so, a bit puzzled how firefox ends up getting a lock on /dev/snd/pcm*
[22:21] <parantbellum> hi all have a problem installing ubuntu on a (pretty) old machine, anyody fancy helping a noob understanding what's going on? :)
[22:21] <libnet-problem> where can i get libnet version 1.1.x
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> parantbellum: sure, what are the specs on that box
[22:21] <Mark761966> What's the command to find out which sound processes are currently running
[22:21] <pete83> Znuff: so you could use that to kickstart the ubuntu CD install on a system taht can't boot from CD?
[22:21] <nemo_work> Mark761966: fuser -v /dev/snd/pcm*
[22:22] <parantbellum> it's a darn laptop, toshiba satellite 4080
[22:22] <adac2> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found ...i get this when i try to load the ndiswrapper module (xubuntu gutsy) any ideas?
[22:22] <libnet-problem> how can i install libnet version 1.1.x i am on ubuntu
[22:22] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: he dosent care.. he already knows it all
[22:22] <Mark761966> Dear God, Nemo. How the hell would anyone ever remember that!? =-O
[22:22] <nemo_work> Mark761966: well, that's why I made a wrapper for my mom that just kills off naughty processes
[22:23] <Mark761966> I just pasted it in terminal, Nemo, and got no answer
[22:23] <nemo_work> Mark761966: since, as noted in link above, firefox was misbehaving and giving evince a useless lock to sound
[22:23] <nemo_work> Mark761966: nothing has locks on your system then :-p
[22:23] <techqbert> what software can I use to dl streaming video to hd?
[22:23] <Mark761966> Then why isn't my sound working?
[22:23] <nemo_work> Mark761966: some other issue? :-p
[22:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[22:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:23] <libnet-problem> how can i install libnet version 1.1.x i am on ubuntu
[22:23] <javaJake> techqbert, what kind of video?
[22:23] <Mark761966> Well, it's not exactly not working
[22:24] <nemo_work> Mark761966: I see Jack_Sparrow gave you some links...
[22:24] <Mark761966> It just doesn't work in Pidgin
[22:24] <techqbert> javaJake: wmv
[22:24] <Jack_Sparrow> try the troubleshooting link..
[22:24] <javaJake> libnet-problem, sudo apt-get install libnet1
[22:24] <pete83> Jack_Sparrow: yes he seems to be pretty attached to his bootloader. Gosh, aren't we all...
[22:24] <Mark761966> Ah. It's back
[22:24] <javaJake> techqbert, wget :)
[22:24] <Mark761966> Hurrah
[22:24] <pike_> Mark761966: sorry i took it
[22:25] <Mark761966> Grr
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> pete83: :)
[22:25] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: the dmix link is broken.
[22:25] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix <= correct page
[22:25] <javaJake> techqbert, actually, heh, nvm
[22:25] <Mark761966> If you do it again I'll wallop you :p
[22:25] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: anyway, alsa site claims is now default
[22:25] <Jack_Sparrow> noted
[22:25] <javaJake> techqbert, mencoder or mplayer would do it, however it is slightly complex
[22:26] <Mark761966> I've installed Firestarter. Was it worth the effort?
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Mark761966: not unless you want to OPEN a specific port
[22:26] <MasterShrek> what effort? sudo apt-get install firestarter    doesnt really require any effort
[22:26] <oly-> hi, i have generated a gpg key on my laptop for launchpad, is there anyway i can transfer it to my desktop machine ?
[22:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Mark761966: It is not a firewall, just a gui iptable manager
[22:26] <Mark761966> Linux really is that safe?
[22:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[22:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:27] <techqbert> javaJake: to no avail with wget.  doesn't support mmsh
[22:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Mark761966: Go to grc,com if you what to try shields-up test of your ports without it
[22:27] <javaJake> techqbert, no, I know, that's why I said "nvm"
[22:27] <MasterShrek> !virus
[22:27] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[22:27] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: that faq has some useful dmix advice though. thanks
[22:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Mark761966: You stand more of a chance of leaving something open if you manage them yourself
[22:28] <nemo_work> Jack_Sparrow: going to try the ossmix suggestion for example to see if Ogle becomes less annoying
[22:28] <Jack_Sparrow> nemo_work: np
[22:28] <Mark761966> Okay
[22:28] <asymptote> i have a wine question
[22:29] <asymptote> how do you start an application after it has been installed with wine ?
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Mark761966: I know, it goes against the whole windows mentality.. It took me awhile too....  I also installed firestarter etc..
[22:29] <Mark761966> Yeah, it is kind of hard to get used to, Jack
[22:29] <asymptote> I installed Battlefield 1942 seamlessly but I don't know where to go to actually start Battlefield 1942
[22:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Mark761966: You will come to love it
[22:29] <Mark761966> :D
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> .\wine
[22:30] <asymptote> Jack can you clarify a little please
[22:30] <pike_> asymptote: wine stuff is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> asymptote: sorry, I just dont use or suggest wine...
[22:31] <asymptote> see this is strange
[22:31] <asymptote> I don't see anything in drive_c
[22:31] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: thanks
[22:31] <asymptote> other than Program Files
[22:31] <pike_> asymptote: liar!
[22:31] <asymptote> and Windows
[22:31] <asymptote> pike_ lol
[22:31] <asymptote> pike_ there's nothing in Program Files
[22:31] <PrimoTurbo> What umask do I need to use to make a NTFS drive read and write?
[22:31] <asymptote> pike_ even if I type ls -a
[22:31] <pike_> asymptote: run maybe winecfg and check path i dont have alot of exp with wine other than getting a few games working
[22:32] <asymptote> pike_ after you installed a game, how did you get it to start ?
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: Is this right?  from term/cli   wine notepad
[22:32] <Mark761966> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[22:33] <mok0> Is there a way to choose an LVM filesystem when installing ubuntu?
[22:33] <pike_> asymptote: drive_c is pretty much like c:\ i just navigated to program files\Eve\ Online or whatever and ran the executable like wine eve.exe  <-- i dont really play eve but as an example
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> pike_: I cant bvelieve people would run wine knowing it has free access to the internet
[22:33] <buzzsaw> i did an apt-get on something now how do i file its file folders?
[22:33] <asymptote> pike_ i understand that but as I said - there's nothing in there
[22:33] <asymptote> pike_ and I know battlefield 1942 installed because when I re-ran wine with the installer file
[22:33] <PrimoTurbo> guys, what umask can I use to make a folder read, write and executiable
[22:33] <asymptote> pike_ it prompted me to UNinstall 1942
[22:34] <asymptote> pike_ indicating that it was already there
[22:34] <Mark761966> I appear to have failed the common ports test
[22:34] <Ruud> Can anybody assist me editing the fstab file? I am having difficulties with the permissions!
[22:35] <javaJake> !firestarter | Mark761966
[22:35] <ubotu> Mark761966: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:35] <javaJake> Mark761966, use firestarter, and configure it to block ICMP stuff too. That'll do the trick. :)
[22:35] <santor> asymptote: look in the kde or gnome applications menu, which ever applies to you, then click wine, it should have its own sub menu, in it would be programs then bf 1942
[22:35] <Robotchicken1886> does anyone here have any experiance with aircrack
[22:35] <javaJake> Robotchicken1886, yes
[22:35] <Robotchicken1886> ok so here is my problem
[22:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Robotchicken1886: Please dont bring that in here
[22:35] <Robotchicken1886> oh
[22:35] <Robotchicken1886> .....
[22:36] <Robotchicken1886> any suggestions
[22:36] <javaJake> Robotchicken1886, visit #aircrack-ng
[22:36] <javaJake> Robotchicken1886, I'll meet you there
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Robotchicken1886: Pay for your own access
[22:36] <Robotchicken1886> k
[22:37] <Mark761966> Should I allow any ICMP packet types?
[22:37] <Ruud> anybody here who knows how to manualy edit the fstab file?
[22:37] <buttercups> Jack_Sparrow, get yourself straight please, aircrack is available in our repos good buddy
[22:37] <Jack_Sparrow> buttercups: since when
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Let me check.. When was cracking a wireless system included in our repos
[22:38] <javaJake> Robotchicken1886, type "/join #aircrack-ng" without quotes to join the channel
[22:38] <buttercups> Jack_Sparrow, since forever
[22:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !aircrack
[22:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:38] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: The Gparted live cd was unable to read the drives (at least gparted couldn't) I used the ubuntu cd instead.....
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud:  ok...  I had trouble with the latest glive and went back a few to get one that worked
[22:39] <javaJake> !aircrack-ng
[22:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aircrack-ng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:39] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Ok, so it wasn't just me :P
[22:39] <Mark761966> I selected address masking. Is that wise?
[22:40] <StoneNote> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php
[22:40] <Jack_Sparrow> It may be in the repos    but I hate to see it supported in here.
[22:41] <StoneNote> it is in the repos.  aircrack and aircarck-ng
[22:42] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Now I'm trying to get the 2 new partitions mounted, adding them to fstab. But I get the message the I cannot access the drives contents after I've mounted it. I don't understand because the drive itself had no such restrictions ::S
[22:42] <StoneNote> in universe
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: are they ntfs partitions.
[22:42] <Ruud> nope ext3
[22:43] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: I have no windows installed :P Trying linux as only OS
[22:43] <B-rabbit> guyz does anyone know if backtrack needs installing if i use it via virtual box?
[22:44] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: But I am new to linux though and I find all these thinks a little hard to figure out when they don't work the first time because I still think windows style....
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: You might post your fstab so we can see it....to the pastebin please
[22:45] <libnet-problem> how can i find where is libnet path
[22:45] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: what is the pastebin? (new to irc as well)
[22:45] <libnet-problem> how can i find where is libnet path
[22:46] <yakov> hey
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[22:46] <goIdbIade> hey guys, i just got an Asus laptop recently (V1J) and am installing Kubuntu on it... a few things dont work out of the box so i wondered if anyone had any advice - the WLAN+bluetooth button doesn't function (both remain on all the time), and the webcam does not work
[22:46] <goIdbIade> ie, its not detected
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: then you post the link it gives you in here so we can go find it
[22:46] <yakov> have anybody successfully enabled hibernate/sleep on macbook 2007 with Gutsy? :(
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !bluetooth
[22:46] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[22:46] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[22:46] <Jack_Sparrow> gold
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[22:47] <libnet-problem> how can i find where is libnet path
[22:47] <goIdbIade> note: bluetooth works, but the shortcut button is what im having problems with
[22:47] <caleb_> what is the keyboard shortcut for desktop cube?
[22:47] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46051/ (line 15 is the partition I want to mount)
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> libnet-problem: what program are you installing that needs it.. and I assume it is not from our repos
[22:47] <pdm_> is there a way to activate\disactivate rams ????
[22:47] <goIdbIade> why would you want to? :/
[22:47] <yakov> !macbook
[22:47] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[22:47] <pdm_> goIdbIade, to me?
[22:48] <goIdbIade> yeah
[22:48] <CochiseIRL> is there anyway to shutdown a windows pc over a network using ubuntu, preferably from the cli
[22:48] <kdubois> caleb, default is control-alt-left
[22:48] <pdm_> goIdbIade, i can see only 1 ram i dont know why the other is not detcted
[22:48] <libnet-problem> but where is the path to libnet
[22:48] <santor> CochisIRL: can you access the computer in person to set this up before hand
[22:48] <goIdbIade> aha
[22:49] <CochiseIRL> santor, yes
[22:49] <caleb_> kdubois: that just flips the screen for me
[22:49] <santor> because you could install a ssh server on windows
[22:49] <goIdbIade> is this just in ubuntu?
[22:49] <santor> and logon
[22:49] <libnet-problem> how can i find where is libnet path
[22:49] <santor> then use hte shutdown command
[22:49] <pdm_> goIdbIade, also in windows
[22:49] <Lunar_Lamp_> How can I specify a prefered wireless card? I have one built into my laptop, but I want to use my USB one when it is present.  How do I configure this behaviour automatically?
[22:49] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: The "user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 " part came from a how to. This actually doesn't work. If I replace it by defaults, then it does! But I still can't write to the disk :S
[22:49] <goIdbIade> pdm_: bios?
[22:49] <goIdbIade> id try each stick individually and see if one is broken
[22:49] <kdubois> caleb_, you need to increase the desktop size from 2 to 4 in ccsm, if you're using compiz fusion.
[22:50] <pdm_> goIdbIade, in my bios there is not the option to activate\disactivate ram slots, is ther in your??
[22:50] <goIdbIade> no
[22:50] <Iwanowitch> Help with broadcom card requested. I followed various HOWTOs (including compiling ndiswrapper by hand) but it doesn't seem to work. Scanning doesn't work, neither does connecting. I've had it working in a previous install on another co;puter.
[22:50] <goIdbIade> hence my astonishment at the suggestion
[22:50] <caleb_> kdubois: ccsm??
[22:50] <Arinomi> How can I save my audio settings? I hate having to listen to the startup sound :P
[22:50]  * goIdbIade hands Arinomi some earplugs
[22:50] <goIdbIade> you could just disable the sound
[22:51] <YeTr2_> Iwanowitch: have you used module-assistant?
[22:51] <santor> yea
[22:51] <caleb_> kdubois: oh, the settings manager
[22:51] <Iwanowitch> YeTr2_: no... This some new package?
[22:51] <pdm_> goIdbIade, the pc is ok with the ram in one slot, with the ram in the other slot doesnt start
[22:51] <javaJake> Arinomi, Applications -> Preferences -> Sound
[22:51] <santor> pdm_: same stick in diff slots?
[22:51] <goIdbIade> so you have 2 sticks of memory... try one stick in the first slot on its own, then swap it with the other stick... then repeat this with the 2nd slot
[22:51] <pdm_> santor, yes
[22:51] <YeTr2_> Iwanowitch: install build-essentials and module-assistant
[22:51] <javaJake> Arinomi, for the login window sound (you know, when your computer is ready to login) see Applications -> System -> Login Window
[22:52] <YeTr2_> Iwanowitch: you might need to check my spelling
[22:52] <Arinomi> Ok, thanks
[22:52] <goIdbIade> if it fails when you swap the ram, its bad ram or incompatible ram... if it fails only when you swap slots, it could be the mobo.
[22:52] <caleb_> kdubois: how do you set it from 2 to 4 on the ccsm?
[22:52] <pdm_> goIdbIade, what is the mobo?
[22:52] <saurdo> anyone got a link to a good tutorial on installing beryl on ubuntu gutsy?
[22:52] <goIdbIade> motherboard sorry
[22:52] <YeTr2_> Iwanowitch: after you get module-assistant installed, you should just beable to run `sudo m-a a-i ndiswrapper` and it will setup and install ndiswrapper for you.
[22:52] <djangelo> caleb_, you should try adding more desktops using SYTEM --> PREFERENCES --> ADVANCED DESKTOP SETTINGS
[22:52] <santor> either the motherboard is bad or the motherboard is really sensitive to not quite top shape ram
[22:52] <libnet-problem> how can i find where is libnet path
[22:52] <santor> i've seen ram do wierd things
[22:52] <robdig> !beryl | saurdo
[22:52] <ubotu> saurdo: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[22:53] <libnet-problem> i am tryin to install and i need libnet path
[22:53] <libnet-problem> is it whereis libnet to find the path
[22:53] <pdm_> santor, in which way can i know if is the slot or motherboard?
[22:53] <wabiD> dont you need to install the advanced desktop effects before it shows up in settings
[22:53] <caleb_> djangelo: i'm there, now what?
[22:53] <santor> try more than one stick in the slot
[22:53] <Iwanowitch> YeTr2_: I'll be trying, thanks.
[22:53] <djangelo> well..
[22:53] <santor> up to there sticks if you can
[22:53] <saurdo> robdig, but compiz is a toned down version of beryl from what i've seen :(
[22:53] <libnet-problem> i am tryin to install and i need libnet path
[22:53] <libnet-problem> is it whereis libnet to find the path
[22:54] <djangelo> go to the top of all the settings in general options
[22:54] <santor> * three sticks
[22:54] <pdm_> santor, one slot is ok with 2 sticks, and one is not with anything
[22:54] <santor> bad ram slot
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat | libnet-problem
[22:54] <ubotu> libnet-problem: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:54] <djangelo> caleb_, go to the top of all the settings in general options
[22:54] <santor> is there any signs of physical damage?
[22:54] <pdm_> santor, is possible to change only one slot ram?
[22:54] <pdm_> santor, no, no physical damage
[22:54] <santor> no, you have to replace motherboard
[22:54] <djangelo> caleb_,  and then try the 3rd TAB wich is "DESKTOP SIZE"
[22:55] <pdm_> santor, i ve also clean contacts, but noway
[22:55] <caleb_> djangelo: I followed this, got it to work: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/help-with-compiz-fusion-3d-cube-on-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-594073/ ty
[22:55] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Did you see the link sent a few minutes ago?
[22:55] <pdm_> santoro, motherboards whole????????
[22:55] <nemo_home> oh. guys
[22:55] <djangelo> caleb_,  and adjust horizontal virtual size to 4.... and also number of desktops to 4
[22:55] <nemo_home> I just remembered what that dude earlier was probably thinking of
[22:55] <goIdbIade> caleb_: that sure is a long link :p
[22:55] <nemo_home> http://goodbye-microsoft.com/  <- not wubi
[22:55] <nemo_home> not wubi, but also, better not be attached to your windows partition :)
[22:56] <santor> if there are no signs of physical damage or dirty contacts then i'd replace motherboard, cause failures like that usually cascade
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: sorry, was in conversation in #Ubuntu-ops room ...  no didnt see it
[22:56] <santor> motherboard is one piece
[22:56] <djangelo> caleb_, thats great! way to go then
[22:56] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46051/ (line 15 is the partition I want to mount)
[22:56] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: The "user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 " part came from a how to. This actually doesn't work. If I replace it by defaults, then it does! But I still can't write to the disk :S
[22:56] <YeTr2_> Iwanowitch: module-assistant build-essential
[22:56] <libnet-problem> is it whereis libnet to find the path
[22:56] <pdm_> santor, is much expensive a motherboard?
[22:57] <libnet-problem> how can i find path to libnet
[22:57] <libnet-problem> i asked 100000 times
[22:57] <santor> depends on what you want the computer to do
[22:57] <santor> bout 100 to 200 for a modern one
[22:57] <santor> say dual core 64 bit processor
[22:57] <santor> check new egg.com
[22:57] <neverblue> in /lib ?
[22:57] <jc> libnet-problem:  what are you trying to do?
[22:58] <YeTr2_> libnet-problem: `locate -i libnet`
[22:58] <libnet-problem> to install a program it needs
[22:58]  * goIdbIade is dead impressed that Kubuntu worked out of the box for his wireless and audio, even if a few small things dont work
[22:58] <santor> pdm_: how much experience do you have inside a computer
[22:58] <libnet-problem> i am tryin to install a program it needs path like this  --with-libnet=DIR
[22:58] <pdm_> santor, normal
[22:58] <SyncopatedFool> are there any gtk utilities for searching for wireless networks to connect to, similar to wirelessassistant?
[22:58] <goIdbIade> install libnet first then.
[22:59] <jc> libnet-problem:  /usr/lib    more than likely....
[22:59] <pdm_> santor, but this slot ram getting bed with no reason
[22:59] <pdm_> santor, is it possible?
[22:59] <santor> yea
[22:59] <goIdbIade> electronics.
[22:59] <goIdbIade> anything is possible.
[22:59] <santor> electronics breat for no reason
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: sorry, very distracted atm
[22:59] <libnet-problem> --with-libnet=/usr/lib     i just do this
[22:59] <jc> libnet-problem:  Are you trying to install from source?  ...some application?
[22:59] <libnet-problem> yes
[22:59] <goIdbIade> i had a supervisor at work once who was adamant that cpus couldnt stop working as there are no moving parts. rofl.
[22:59] <neverblue> libnet-problem, what app are you attempting to install ?
[22:59] <libnet-problem> its from source
[22:59] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Should I repeat again?
[22:59] <santor> if you don't have much money use it without that ram stick and see if it keeps working
[23:00] <jc> libnet-problem: And what application would that be?
[23:00] <mneptok> libnet-problem: you don't need libnet. you need libnet-devel
[23:00] <nemo_home> goIdbIade: that'll save me a lot of money on fans
[23:00] <nemo_home> goIdbIade: darn things are indestructible
[23:00] <jc> libnet-problem: (Might help us give you better info)
[23:00] <santor> from my experience when things stop working for no reason on the motherboard it usually keeps happening
[23:00] <santor> so if you keep running it i wouldn't be supprised if the other ram slot died within a month or so
[23:00] <neverblue> funny, we ask one question, and he zips up :)
[23:01] <Ruud> Is there anybody here who knows about the fstab file and how I can get the mounted volumes to be writable??
[23:01] <nemo_home> goIdbIade: perhaps he meant less susceptible to mechanical stress failure
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: no one sec
[23:01] <libnet-problem> checking for libnet... configure: error: libnet.h or libnet.a not found in /usr/lib
[23:01] <mneptok> libnet-problem: you don't need libnet. you need libnet-devel
[23:01] <aldur> lo
[23:01] <pdm_> santor, pc is much more slow with one ram, it can damage the other one???
[23:01] <jc> libnet-problem: Be sure and read INSTALL and README for more clues.
[23:01] <neverblue> Ruud, what type of partition is it ?
[23:01] <aldur> !dvd
[23:01]  * goIdbIade 's brain rots
[23:01] <neverblue> libnet-problem, what app are you attempting to install ?
[23:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:01] <jc> libnet-problem: locate libnet.h
[23:01] <ICQnumber_> what is "EOF" sign?
[23:01] <Ruud> neverblue: primary ext3
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdb2
[23:02] <kitche> ICQnumber_: End of File usually
[23:02] <libnet-problem>  locate libnet.h
[23:02] <libnet-problem> @matrix:~$ it goes to promt nothings shows
[23:02] <neverblue> Ruud, sudo nano /etc/fstab, add an entry, then try 'sudo mount -a' to confirm the mount is syntically correct
[23:02] <ICQnumber_> kitche, as sign!
[23:02]  * mneptok stares at libnet-problem 
[23:02] <santor> when things start going bad on a motherboard it usually doesn't stop wiht one thing
[23:02] <kitche> ICQnumber_: what do you mean as sign?
[23:02] <void^> libnet-problem: libnet0-dev or libnet1-dev
[23:02]  * neverblue looks over mneptok's shoulder as well
[23:02] <santor> the parts on a motherboard are all interconnected and communicate with each other
[23:03] <ICQnumber_> kitche, character
[23:03] <goIdbIade> ive had a motherboard take out a psu and even the fuse... and saw another that would eat psus.
[23:03] <libnet-problem> you can assist me jc
[23:03] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdb2
[23:03] <mneptok> libnet-problem: i have now told you the solution twice. and all you have said in response is to paste existing errors.
[23:03] <libnet-problem>  locate libnet.h
[23:03] <ICQnumber_> what is the EOF-character or key combination
[23:03] <kitche> ICQnumber_: umm there isn't one ^D, ^ is ctrl  if that's what you mean
[23:03] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: oops
[23:03] <neverblue> ICQnumber_, in which program/context ?
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: did that give you your uuid to setup that drive
[23:03] <pdm_> santor, thks a lot, i have to do a present x me at christmas
[23:04] <void^> perhaps even libnet6-1.3-dev (what a generic name..)
[23:04] <pdm_> santor, a motherboars
[23:04] <mneptok> void^: that's the one
[23:04] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Yes it did! Should I just copy one of the lines above?
[23:04] <ICQnumber_> neverblue, for example for the "car > test" command
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: that should do it
[23:04] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: in the fstab
[23:04] <jc> libnet-problem: find /usr/ -name "libnet.h"
[23:04] <mneptok> void^: any bets on if he actually listens? ;)
[23:04] <santor> pdm_: no problem
[23:04] <ICQnumber_> cat*
[23:04] <mneptok> jc: that's not the answer
[23:04] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks :) I'll try!
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> good luck
[23:05] <mneptok> jc: please see my previous comments
[23:05] <neverblue> ICQnumber_, EOF ?
[23:05] <libnet-problem> find /usr/ -name "libnet.h"
[23:05] <libnet-problem> /usr/include/libnet.h
[23:05] <keen_> can gimp open cs3 psd files?
[23:05] <[BarteFLAY]> ciao a tutti
[23:05] <santor> then the libnet dir is /usr/include/
[23:05] <jc> libnet-problem: Have you considered what mneptok has said?  (He seems to have information he's tried to share with you.)
[23:05] <mneptok> *sigh*
[23:05] <[BarteFLAY]> !list
[23:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:05] <SyncopatedFool> are there any gtk utilities for searching for wireless networks to connect to, similar to wirelessassistant?
[23:06]  * neverblue pats mneptok on the back, dont take it personally :)
[23:06] <keen_> guess nobody knows
[23:06] <santor> ubotu: what is it that women want?
[23:06] <santor> well
[23:06] <nemo_home> SyncopatedFool: wifi-radar
[23:06] <DorkSide> Hey, on one of my comps, i did switch users, and now the screen is black when i start it up
[23:06] <nemo_home> SyncopatedFool: my fave
[23:06] <santor> i guess he's not all knowing then
[23:06] <ndz> an ld
[23:06] <PriceChild> !offtopic | santor
[23:06] <ubotu> santor: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:06] <DorkSide> please help
[23:06] <nemo_home> SyncopatedFool: use it on my mom's ubuntu laptop
[23:06] <MystaMax> SyncopatedFool, networkmanager doesn't work for you?
[23:06] <ICQnumber_> neverblue, just to type EOF?
[23:07] <jc> libnet-problem: install  libnet-devel
[23:07] <nemo_home> MystaMax: has it gotten better? it used to suck.
[23:07] <kitche> ICQnumber_: EOF should work when using cat or just press ctrl+d
[23:07] <jc> libnet-problem: sudo apt-get install libnet-devel
[23:07] <MystaMax> nemo_home, I can't say, as it has never sucked for me...
[23:07] <neverblue> ICQnumber_, please explain your question more clearly, hopefully stating an example...
[23:07] <mneptok> jc: sudo apt-get install libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:07] <Flare183> kde-look is down?
[23:07] <mneptok> libnet-problem: sudo apt-get install libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:07] <mneptok> libnet-problem: sudo apt-get install libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:07] <mneptok> libnet-problem: sudo apt-get install libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:08] <nemo_home> MystaMax: hm. was never able to get it to properly detect networks, nor sign onto WPA2 secure networks by passphrase as opposed to hex
[23:08] <libnet-problem> it could not find libnet-devel
[23:08] <mneptok> ^^^  SEE THAT ? ^^^^^^
[23:08] <Flare183> !paste | mnetptok
[23:08] <ubotu> mnetptok: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:08] <nemo_home> MystaMax: so. switched to wifi-radar
[23:08] <nemo_home> Flare183: mneptok is just expressing frustration with a fool...
[23:08] <saurdo> where can i set the number of workspaces?
[23:08] <SyncopatedFool> MystaMax: Trying to install at home, at library right now, do not have QT/KDE installed at home, need something GTK based
[23:08] <Flare183> wow
[23:08] <jc> mneptok: Ok:  libnet6-1.3-dev - Network access framework for IPv4/IPv6 - development files
[23:08] <MystaMax> SyncopatedFool, NM isn't QT based
[23:08] <PriceChild> saurdo, right click the workspace display bottom right next to the trash can
[23:08] <jeffimix> saurdo: reight click on that nifty gnome applet that lets you switch and hit properries
[23:08] <jc> libnet-problem: sudo apt-get install libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:08] <Flare183> kde-look is down?
[23:09] <MystaMax> SyncopatedFool, you can also try wicd. http://wicd.sourceforge.net
[23:09] <PriceChild> saurdo, choose preferences then all is simple
[23:09] <kitche> Flare183: also mneptok is a canonical person :) just so you know
[23:09] <jeffimix> oh heck I've been doing windows troubleshooting for too long
[23:09] <SyncopatedFool> MystaMax: Oops, Networkmanager not network assistant :-)
[23:09] <saurdo> thanks pricechild and jeffimix
[23:09] <jeffimix> ^_^
[23:09] <mneptok> kitche: which is why it's *really* frustrating when people don't listen when they ask for help. ;)
[23:09] <ICQnumber_> kitche, control +d do work ty, but how to do it with EOF
[23:10] <aldur> !detect hardware
[23:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about detect hardware - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:10] <kitche> ICQnumber_: just type EOF on a line by itself
[23:10] <Flare183> ohh sorry about that
[23:10] <MystaMax> Network Manager is not QT based, and does search for broadcasted SSIDs very well. Haven't used it w/ WPA2 but works great w/ WPA
[23:10] <libnet-problem> yes i installed
[23:10] <jeffimix> !lspci
[23:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:10] <libnet-problem> i still get that error
[23:10] <nemo_home> MystaMax: hm. you're referring to the gnome network manager?
[23:10] <libnet-problem> checking for libnet... configure: error: libnet.h or libnet.a not found in /usr/libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:10] <mneptok> libnet-problem: what is the source code you're trying to compile.
[23:10] <aldur> anyone know how to get ubuntu (latest release) to detect the dvd drive comes up as cd rom
[23:10] <SyncopatedFool> wicd actually looks perfect, i run xfce
[23:10] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: I got the drive mounted but it is still read only. Could it perhaps be permissions as set on /var or /var/www ???
[23:10] <Flare183> anybody know of any karamba theme sites?
[23:11] <nemo_home> MystaMax: If so, when I tried it last, was 2006-12 - and it just did not work correctly at all.  but, perhaps has improved
[23:11] <ICQnumber_> kitche, and then, does not seems to work
[23:11] <kitche> ICQnumber_: hmm works here just fine
[23:11] <MystaMax> nemo_home, only way to know is to try :)
[23:11] <libnet-problem> checking for libnet... configure: error: libnet.h or libnet.a not found in /usr/libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:11] <jc> aldur: Doesn't matter that it calls it CDROM
[23:11] <kitche> ICQnumber_: hang on a second
[23:11] <aldur> can't get vlc to play a dvd
[23:11] <MystaMax> SyncopatedFool, I've never used wicd, let me know how you like it. People speak highly of it
[23:11] <mneptok> libnet-problem: one last time before i give up on you. what is the source code you're trying to compile?
[23:11] <nemo_home> MystaMax: no wireless card. mom's machine is thousands of kilometres away - but I'll add to things to think about :-p
[23:11] <aldur> doesn;t load a disk icon on desktop
[23:12] <jc> aldur: Try xine
[23:12] <jeffimix> aldur: install the css decryptor if you lvie in a country with a DMCA style law
[23:12] <jeffimix> without
[23:12] <jeffimix> without
[23:12] <MasterShrek> libnet-problem, im not on ubuntu, but is there a packacge called libnet-dev or soemthing?
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: try gksudo nautilus
[23:12]  * mneptok calls the cops on jeffimix 
[23:12] <libnet-problem> its a source which requires libnet-1.1.x
[23:12] <kitche> ICQnumber_: are you doing this cat > file << "EOF" then EOF should work that way
[23:12] <Centaur5> if the /dev/ttyHSF0 file doesn't exist how can I create it?
[23:12] <ICQnumber_> kitche, well, i have a file "test", so i type "cat > test", then i can enter text... and EOF is just recognized as text!
[23:12] <MasterShrek> nvm...
[23:12]  * MasterShrek scrolls up
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: then exit asap.. that can be very dangerous..
[23:13] <kitche> ICQnumber_: do this cat > test << "EOF"
[23:13] <aldur> xine not available
[23:13] <nemo_home> mneptok: have you considered that libnet-problem might not be a fool, but rather a troll?
[23:13] <jc> libnet-problem: Did you install libnet6-1.3-dev   yet?
[23:13] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: I am able to change everything when I do that, tried that myself already :P
[23:13] <libnet-problem> yes done
[23:13] <libnet-problem> i installed libnet6-1.3-de
[23:13] <mneptok> nemo_home: oooo ... a pessimist! ;)
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: so only need to set permissions on that partition?
[23:14] <aldur> found gxine
[23:14] <libnet-problem> you can help me jc never mind the others
[23:14] <MystaMax> aldur, its not necessary to install xine to play dvds
[23:14] <ikonia> libnet-problem: ask the question
[23:14] <jc> libnet-problem: I dono;  Maybe  libconf and / or depmod -a
[23:14] <jeffimix> so there seem to be two orinoco drivers, as my internal orinoco card won't do everything my cardbus orinoco card will, anyone got a good idea?
[23:14] <kitche> ICQnumber_: then EOF will be recongized on a line by itself to close the file for writing
[23:14] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: I think I can write to that partition if it is not mounted on that point the mount point is also read only for me when nothing is mounted in there
[23:14] <ICQnumber_> kitche, well now it do work too
[23:15] <nemo_home> mneptok: did he at any point say what he is compiling? (just a tad curious)
[23:15] <libnet-problem> i am tryin to install from a source, i need libnet 1.1.x  i installed libnet6-1.3-de  still does't work
[23:15] <jc> libnet-problem: did you first do make  ?
[23:15] <ikonia> libnet-problem: can you expand on that, define not work
[23:15] <libnet-problem> nope i do first ./configure
[23:15] <ikonia> libnet-problem: what are you trying to build from source and why
[23:15] <jc> libnet-problem: What are you installing?   (What tarball did you download? From where?)
[23:15] <jeffimix> mayhaps "sh autogen.sh" will help then
[23:16] <kitche> ICQnumber_: you need to use ctrl+d the way you were doing it but with << "EOF" at the end of the cat command it can use EOF to End of File
[23:16] <jaym> is the slab menu available for gutsy?
[23:16] <jc> libnet-problem: Have you first checked to see that the application or package is not in Ubuntu repositories?
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: UUID=1444ff64-a296-4604-a859-dfd31ac2bb11 /media/sdb2           ext3    defaults        0       2  but with your uuid.. is that what you mean
[23:17] <ICQnumber_> kitche, yes, ty, does it work for u by default with adding "<< eof"?
[23:17] <libnet-problem> nevermind this is so compliated with linux
[23:17] <nemo_home> Jack_Sparrow: nifty, you can do that?
[23:17] <jaym> is the slab menu available for gutsy?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ruud: I still dont have a full grip of the uuid thing..
[23:17] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: may I help ?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> please
[23:17] <nemo_home> Jack_Sparrow: I thought you had to use devfs
[23:17] <nemo_home> er udev
[23:17] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: quick summary please.
[23:17] <kitche> ICQnumber_: yes that's whow I use cat if I want to write a file sicne I use cat > file << "EOF" all the time when I built LFS machines
[23:18] <jc> libnet-problem: If you will tell us what you are trying to do, we will be able to help you more effectively.
[23:18] <MasterShrek> libnet-problem, what are you compiling? its probably already avaiable as an ubuntu package
[23:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: wants write access... uuid was wrong   and mount point questionable.. uuid is now right
[23:18] <nemo_home> jc: good luck with that line of inquiry. he's been asked that question about 12 times I think
[23:18] <void^> libnet-problem: why did you make it search in /usr/libnet6-1.3-dev? why aren't you replying to simple questions? ..
[23:18] <MasterShrek> if you would answer some of the questions being asked to you, youd probably already have it installed
[23:18] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so you've got it sorted
[23:18] <Ruud> Jack_Sparrow: Euhm I was checking and the only partitions I can write to is the /home partition. The other partition that I had from install (/dev/sda3 -> /media/data) is also not writable without sudo
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: please double check it
[23:19] <ICQnumber_> kitche, thank you
[23:19] <libnet-problem>  i am tryin to install from source a network program it requres libnet1.1.x
[23:19] <ikonia> Ruud: can you give me a quick summary of what you've done
[23:19] <jc> libnet-problem:  If your primary language is not English, there are other Ubuntu channels for other languages...
[23:19] <ikonia> libnet-problem: what probram is it
[23:19] <MasterShrek> libnet-problem, what netowrk program?!
[23:19] <ikonia> libnet-problem: the only reason your not telling us is because its a cracking program ?
[23:19] <libnet-problem> checking for libnet... configure: error: libnet.h or libnet.a not found in /usr/libnet6-1.3-dev
[23:19] <MystaMax> assumptions...
[23:19] <jeffimix> I've always been a cryptcat fan
[23:20] <nemo_home> ikonia: super leet program called nmap :)
[23:20] <ikonia> libnet-problem: what program are you tryin gto install !
[23:20] <MasterShrek> heh
[23:20] <MystaMax> well thats that
[23:20] <aldur> can not detect dvd or cdrom now no entry in /dev/ directory
[23:20] <jeffimix> actually anyone know any good smurf programs, I kinda need one for a school project (I'm getting a computer networking degree)
[23:20] <libnet-problem> why you even bann me
[23:20] <Ruud> ikonia: I am trying to mount a new partition for my development webserver. I installed apache2.2 and in its wwwroot (/var/www) I mounted the new partition /dev/sdb2
[23:20] <libnet-problem> i am tryin to install a program and you bann me
[23:20] <goIdbIade> oh god
[23:21] <nemo_home> pretty noisy for a banned person
[23:21] <goIdbIade> rofl
[23:21] <libnet-problem> don't give me that attitude
[23:21] <MasterShrek> libnet-problem, tell us what program it is
[23:21] <MystaMax> lol
[23:21] <libnet-problem> you are really crossin a line
[23:21] <Ruud> ikonia: # /dev/sdb2
[23:21] <Ruud> UUID=0673ed49-c661-492d-803c-7916500bf3dd /var/www        ext3    defaults   0   0
[23:21] <LjL> libnet-problem: because you're being a troll and wasting people's time without replying to their very basic questions in order to help you. stop this now.
[23:21] <ikonia> LjL: again please.
[23:21] <ikonia> Ruud: that looks pretty reasonable
[23:21] <jc> libnet-problem:  Just ask your questions.  Don't argue.  Arguments will do no one any good.
[23:21] <Iwanowitch> YeTr2_: Blergh, it gives compile errors.
[23:22] <aldur> !dvd
[23:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[23:22] <Ruud> but I cannot write to the partition, unless I sudo somthing :P
[23:22] <Iwanowitch> YeTr2_: INIT_WORK undeclared or something.
[23:22] <ikonia> Ruud: ok, can we look at the permissions please with "ls -la "
[23:22] <LjL> libnet-problem, *you* are crossing a line. if you want support, please answer people's questions about your problem *thoroughly* and *accurately*, otherwise, get out of here.
[23:22] <MystaMax> Ruud, you just need to change permissions on the drive, right?
[23:22] <aldur> ruud try sudo chown ruud:ruud /var/www
[23:22] <xTheGoat121x> afternon all
[23:22] <syngin001> is anyone familiar with the issue of external usb drives going into read only mode and have a solution or workaround?
[23:23] <ikonia> syngin001: what file system ?
[23:23] <syngin001> ext3
[23:23] <ikonia> aldur: don't tell him to change permissions without understanding whats there
[23:23] <jc> syngin001: You should be able to remount rw
[23:23] <ikonia> syngin001: are you being asked for a consistancy check at all ?
[23:23] <syngin001> when it mounts on boot it's rw
[23:23] <Ruud> ikonia: I'll man chon before using it ;)
[23:23] <Khufu> ciao
[23:24] <ikonia> Ruud: what are the current permissions
[23:24] <syngin001> consistancey check, don't think so
[23:24] <ikonia> Ruud: don't chown anything yet, lets see what you have
[23:24] <xTheGoat121x> It seems that my CPU in Ubuntu runs approximately 10 degrees higher than it does in XP.... what might be the cause of that?
[23:24] <jc> mount -o rw,remount /mount/point/here
[23:24] <aldur> ikonia oops though it was a blank partition
[23:24] <ikonia> syngin001: fsck -n it just to check what state its in
[23:24] <nemo_home> syngin001: other folks are having fun with this, but I'd be cruious to know if there's any output on dmesg and if verbose lsusb has anything unusual in drive ID
[23:24] <jc> syngin001: mount -o rw,remount /mount/point/here
[23:24] <ikonia> aldur: it could be, but chowning it won't allow apache to see it
[23:24]  * LjL has gone away (bbl)
[23:25] <LjL> oops sorry for the away msg
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[23:25] <ExalleR> how do you fet permission to change etc\apt\sources.list?    running ubuntu 7.10
[23:25] <Pod_Man> hey anyone here using thinkfinger?
[23:25] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: http://www.lesswatts.org/ just as a random guess
[23:25] <jc> ExalleR: sudo
[23:25] <syngin001> ok jc, i'll give this a try, btw, what i do when it goes read-only, is umount the drive, then run fsck and remount , this solves the probls but im just getting a pain in my ass doing it
[23:25] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: another thing to consider is just how many different services and fun toys you are using
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ExalleR: gksudo gedit blah
[23:25] <Ruud> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46052/
[23:25] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: like, is there a lot of stuff sucking up CPU.
[23:26] <xTheGoat121x> nemo_home, very true, but I'm talking strictly when the CPU is idle.
[23:26] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: "linux" and "windows" are huge magesteria
[23:26] <ikonia> Ruud: ok, so there is the problem. Ruud we need to change the permissions and the owner
[23:26] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: oh. is this a laptop? laptops do allow downclocking CPU during idle. maybe that isn't enabled
[23:26] <ikonia> Ruud: I suggest you change it to "your user" and "your group" and 775 permissions
[23:26] <DorkSide> hey, how do you fix the switch users problem?
[23:26] <aldur> ikonia I chowned the /var/www driectory and chmod 0777 (home laptop no security) good for dev only
[23:26] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: of course, if it is truly idling, shouldn't be using CPU at all
[23:26] <Ruud> ikonia: Why is the owner not correct from the start?
[23:26] <DorkSide> where the screen turns black, and you can't do anything
[23:26] <ikonia> aldur: that would be silly to recommend that
[23:27] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: remember when win95 used to do NOPs for "idle" ? :)
[23:27] <ikonia> Ruud: the owner is correct, just not correct for your needs
[23:27] <aldur> ikonia me newbie
[23:27] <ckin2001> xTheGoat121x, idle cpu does not reduce power consumption
[23:27] <kitche> DorkSide: that would be due to drivers what video driver are you using?
[23:27] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: heck, that was a decade ago, and linux knew how to idle back then
[23:27] <aldur> ikonia surprise
[23:27] <ikonia> aldur: then don't recommend things you don't understand
[23:27] <ExalleR> I run:  sudo /etc/apt/sources.list    is that right?
[23:27] <ikonia> aldur: wrong advice is bad advice
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: Thanks for looking after that
[23:27] <xTheGoat121x> ckin2001, it's not power that I'm worrying about, it's temperature.
[23:27] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: any time, you had it down anyway
[23:27] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: ooh. CPU fan speed?
[23:27] <aldur> ikonia ok no probs
[23:27] <syngin001> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:27] <DorkSide> i have an ati radeon x1300
[23:27] <ckin2001> xTheGoat121x, power consumption can cause temperature :p
[23:27] <Ruud> ikonia: So which permissions should . get?
[23:28] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: maybe linux is cranking down the fan to save power?
[23:28] <ikonia> Ruud: this is for you to develop yes/not ?
[23:28] <Ruud> Yes
[23:28] <xTheGoat121x> nemo_home, not quite sure.  I can hear it switching on and and off... and regarding throttling, this model processor doesn't support throttling
[23:28] <ikonia> Ruud: ok, so your user account and group is a good start
[23:28] <xTheGoat121x> nemo_home, it DOES seem that the fan comes on and off rather frequently.
[23:28] <jc> ExalleR: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:28] <ckin2001> xTheGoat121x, i had issues with various dells laptops having poor fan modules, had to install i8kutils
[23:28] <ikonia> Ruud: or user user and the apache cgroup
[23:28] <ikonia> Ruud: make sure your permissions are 775
[23:28] <nemo_home> xTheGoat121x: perhaps is set to trigger at a higher temperature. not really hip to such things
[23:28] <ExalleR> now I get the list.. but I want to change it..  it keeps popping up access denied :(
[23:29] <xTheGoat121x> ckin2001, would be nice, but I'm running an Acer.
 nemo_home, not quite sure.  I can hear it switching on and and off... and regarding throttling, this model processor doesn't support throttling
[23:29] <syngin001> * Viper550 (n=Viper550@d57-121-167.home.cgocable.net
[23:29] <jc> ExalleR: Move the cursor to the # you want to delete, hit  x  and then  :wq   to save and exit
[23:29] <jc> ExalleR: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:30] <xTheGoat121x> nemo_home, I've read about re-doing the trip settings but I haven't been able to find what the format is to echo to the file.
[23:30] <reya276> How can I fix this messege "warning: database /etc/postfix/vmaps.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/vmaps"
[23:30] <ExalleR> and to insert?     sry if i'm bothering you :S
[23:30] <jc> ExalleR: After successfully making changes do:   apt-get update
[23:30] <MystaMax> probably should of used nano
[23:30] <nemo_home> reya276: postmap vmaps
[23:30] <DorkSide> where the screen turns black, and you can't do anything, I have an ati radeon x1300
[23:30] <nemo_home> reya276: should ask that in #postfix btw ;)
[23:30] <syngin001> or even for a noob , sudo vim gedit /etc/apt/sources.lisy
[23:30] <syngin001> or even for a noob , sudo vim gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:30] <Ruud> ikonia: I can't follow you here. for as far as I understand the unix permissions the permissions are 777 which are less restrictive
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ExalleR: shift ctrl v      if that is what I think you asked
[23:30] <nemo_home> reya276: might want to reload postfix after that
[23:30] <syngin001> or even for a noob , sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:31] <PriceChild> !gksudo | syngin001
[23:31] <ubotu> syngin001: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[23:31] <jeffimix> nop nop nop nop nop.... oh sorry just being idle
[23:31] <ikonia> Ruud: the permissions are not 777 - and very dangerous
[23:31] <jc> ExalleR: Do you just need to uncomment existing lines?
[23:31] <ikonia> Ruud: so lets do this one step at a time
[23:31] <saurdo> is there a good tutorial on how to set up a OS selection screen with a GUI?
[23:31] <robert__> hey i have a question    i have recently installed compix fusion and i have set it to have fire on windows thing   and i wondered how u do that??
[23:31] <ikonia> Ruud: what is your user account called and what group is it in (check this with the command id"
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> syngin001: gksudo gedit...   gui apps  need gksudo  or kdesu for kde
[23:31] <JoeThomas> Hi, I want to change motd. Do I want to change /etc/motd or /var/run/motd?
[23:31] <syngin001> really ubotu
[23:31] <ikonia> JoeThomas: /etc/motd
[23:32] <JoeThomas> ikonia: okay thanks.
[23:32] <jc> ExalleR: More than likely, all you need to do is just to un-comment existing lines.
[23:32] <nemo_home> jeffimix: :)
[23:32] <Flare183> Does anybody know when the PPA Class is going to start?
[23:32] <Ruud> ikonia: uid=1000(ruud) gid=1000(ruud) groups=4(adm)
[23:33] <jc> ExalleR: e.g delete the   #  at the first of the tartet lines.
[23:33] <ikonia> Ruud: ok, so "sudo chown -R ruud:ruud ." while in /var/www
[23:33] <JarG0n> Can someone tell me if there is any support for SanDisk Sansa MP3 players in Ubuntu?
[23:33] <Pod_Man> anyone have any experience with using thinkfinger for a fingerprint reader?
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> rhythembox perhaps
[23:33] <ikonia> Ruud: thats changed the owners to you, and the members of your groups.
[23:33] <ikonia> Ruud: thats phase one, with me so far ?
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !rythembox
[23:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rythembox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <ExalleR> I want to insert: deb http://archive.ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio feisty main   into the file...
[23:33] <Pod_Man> i have been successful in getting it to work with my login
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I have NO rythem
[23:33] <MystaMax> ha
[23:34] <Pod_Man> but not any other gnome stuff
[23:34] <HankHill> Hey cn some one help me get a wirless device working?
[23:34] <Pod_Man> like synaptic and sudo in the terminal
[23:34] <MystaMax> HankHill, we can try
[23:34] <jc> HankHill: We will try...
[23:34] <jeffimix> I believe the Sandisk Sansa players act like generic mass sotrage devices... one sec
[23:34] <HankHill> The drivers are all there and it works fine. it just won't connect to my network
[23:34] <syngin001> gksudo it is then, i stand corrected, thanks
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Pod_Man: it should be seen as a scanner, but no support for the fingerprint feature
[23:34] <jc> HankHill: Tell us what Wireless NIC you have?
[23:34] <HankHill> It can see the network
[23:34] <alyx_> hey whats a network manager for e17
[23:34] <HankHill> It's a d-link
[23:34] <Ruud> ikonia: Yes, I was checking the command then saw you explained as well :P
[23:34] <Agent_bob> i have a cli/bash question.   why does "openvt -slfc $TTY" not read /etc/profile ?
[23:35] <saurdo> is there a good tutorial on how to set up a OS selection screen with a GUI?
[23:35] <JarG0n> !mp3
[23:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:35] <jc> HankHill: Do you have native drivers for it?
[23:35] <HankHill> Ralink chipset
[23:35] <nemo_home> saurdo: you mean like grub? :)
[23:35] <jeffimix> yes, yes it works as any flash drive would
[23:35] <jc> HankHill: iwconfig
[23:35] <ikonia> Ruud: ok - so now we have done that we need to make it so that only you, and the members of your group can write to that dir, so in the /var/www dir, "sudo chmod -R 775 ."
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> saurdo: you mean setting up grub boot loader
[23:35] <Agent_bob> shouldn't all login shells read /etc/profile ?
[23:35] <saurdo> nemo_home yes, like grub boot loader
[23:35] <Pod_Man> Jack_Sparrow: it is working fine for login, and sudo commands in the ctl-alt-f1 type console
[23:35] <MystaMax> I use a d-link PCI card at home, and it installed drivers automagically
[23:35] <HankHill> yes drivers all all set and the device seems to be working fine. when it tries to connect to he network and times out after a minut
[23:35] <Pod_Man> but not for anything inside of gnome
[23:35] <ikonia> Ruud: thats going to make it read/write for your user account, however the user that runs the apache webserver is not in your group, so we need to give the dir world execute permissions too, (thats the 5 in 775)
[23:36] <MystaMax> HankHill, is your SSID being broadcasted? are you using network manager?
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Pod_Man: soory, never had a chance to play with one
[23:36] <Ruud> ikonia: this one I don't need to check :P ftp-ed enough to recognize ;)
[23:36] <HankHill> it's in roming mode
[23:36] <jc> HankHill: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid linksys   (where eth1 is device name and linksys is router's essid.)
[23:36] <ikonia> Ruud: ok, great, so you understand what I've done and why
[23:36] <Ruud> ikonia: yes
[23:36] <ikonia> Ruud: the important thing to remember is why 5 is on the end, as apache is not the owner or in the ruud group
[23:36] <HankHill> it's a usb device actualy
[23:36] <DorkSide> Hey, I have that switch users problem, where you get the black screen when you turn on the computer, I have an ATI Radeon x1300 video card.
[23:36] <Ruud> ikonia: This leaves one problem though
[23:37] <ikonia> Ruud: which is ?
[23:37] <Pod_Man> Pod
[23:37] <Pod_Man> lol srry
[23:37] <jc> HankHill: Actually, you should have an icon in the upper left of screen that you can click on and tell it to connect to specific essid name.
[23:37] <Pod_Man> another question
[23:37] <Robotchicken1886> does anyone know a good movie editor program
[23:37] <HankHill> I click the icon and tell it to connect to the network
[23:37] <jc> HankHill: The wireless NIC is really a USB device?
[23:37] <HankHill> it's in the list
[23:37] <HankHill> says the signal is fine
[23:37] <Robotchicken1886> like the movie editor on macs
[23:37] <HankHill> but it won't connect to the network
[23:37] <Ruud> ikonia: I write scripts that very often also add files inside the www dir (uploads, installing extentions and so on)
[23:38] <DorkSide> Hey, I have that switch users problem, where you get the black screen when you turn on the computer, I have an ATI Radeon x1300 video card.
[23:38] <jc> HankHill: Yes, then just click the icon and tell it to connect to the network
[23:38] <ikonia> Ruud: thats not a problem, as I assume the scripts are run by you ?
[23:38] <syngin001> jc, about the command, i just want to have the correct synatax, i should have  "mount -o rw,remount /mount/point/here"  the mount point is fine but remount should be /dev/sdb1 if thats where my drive is. is this correct?
[23:38] <DorkSide> there is no icon
[23:38] <Ruud> ikonia: they'll be running as apache, can they write?
[23:38] <HankHill> Bu tthat's the problem
[23:38] <HankHill> it dosn't
[23:38] <Pod_Man> i recently accidentally erased my /etc/networking/interfaces file
[23:38] <ikonia> Ruud: ahh ok, I see
[23:38] <HankHill> it times out
[23:38] <DorkSide> screens all black
[23:38] <ikonia> Ruud: ok, so lets do this different.
[23:38] <mkquist> Hey all, how long should an upgrade take from fawn to gibbon?  Using a CD...
[23:38] <Pod_Man> (on a dell xps m1330 latptop)
[23:38] <Pod_Man> and went onto the forums to get a clean copy
[23:38] <jc> syngin001: No, use the mount point, not the device filename
[23:38] <ikonia> Ruud: what is the users account running the apache process (ps -ef | grep httpd) then look at the user that owns it
[23:38] <Ruud> ikonia: at least I'll assume they'll have the apaches servers rights
[23:38] <Pod_Man> pasted in what looked familiar as the original contents of the file
[23:39] <Pod_Man> but it still does not reconize properly
[23:39] <DorkSide> i don't see anything, i just get black screen
[23:39] <Agent_bob> syngin001 you can remount either the device node or the mountpoint   but using both in the mount command is redundant
[23:39] <jeffimix> mm they keep updating the radeon drivers don't they
[23:39] <DorkSide> as soon as it starts up
[23:39] <Pod_Man> connects just fine to wireless, and connects to wired when plugged in, but never comes up in the manage
[23:39] <jc> syngin001: Where is it mounted?   do: mount |grep sda1
[23:39] <Pod_Man> manager*
[23:39] <dario> i have some problems with amule
[23:39] <Robotchicken1886> what is a good program for ubuntu that is a movie editor
[23:39] <syngin001> so how does this command know what to mount then?
[23:39] <DorkSide> ok
[23:39] <Pod_Man> which is annoying because i cannot choose between the two
[23:39] <DorkSide> i'll try it
[23:40] <jeffimix> Robotchicken1886: Cinelerra
[23:40] <Ruud> ikonia: ruud      6362  6260  0 00:39 pts/1    00:00:00 grep httpd
[23:40] <Robotchicken1886> thanks
[23:40] <Pod_Man> if the wireless switch is on, it automatically uses wireless, no option to used wired port
[23:40] <syngin001> jc, the drive mounts on boot to /media/disk
[23:40] <Ruud> ikonia: no idea what this means though
[23:40] <Agent_bob> jc you can remount either the device node or the mountpoint   but using both in the mount *remount* command is redundant
[23:40] <ikonia> Ruud: is apache running ?
[23:40] <Ruud> dunno
[23:40] <jeffimix> Robotchicken1886: Kino is easier to set up though, it's also fine albeit simpler
[23:40] <Frogzoo> Robotchicken1886: not sure jahshaka works yet..
[23:40] <nemo_home> Robotchicken1886: avidemux is also good
[23:40] <Pod_Man> anyone with an m1330 that can paste in the file contents?
[23:40] <nemo_home> Robotchicken1886: for applying filters, and clipping and such
[23:40] <nemo_home> Robotchicken1886: reencoding...
[23:40] <JJHathoway> does ubuntu keep file trees for mounted drives after they are unmounted?  and is this something other OSs do?
[23:40] <Ruud> ikonia: localhost responds
[23:41] <ikonia> could someone please tell me the user account that ubuntu users as an apache owner, I don't have an ubuntu box to hand
[23:41] <jeffimix> Cinelerra is perhaps Linux's best non-linear editor...
[23:41] <ikonia> Ruud: one moment
[23:41] <jc> syngin001: mount -o rw,remount /media/disk
[23:41] <kitche> JJHathoway: no once a drive is umounted the directory where you mounted the drive will be empty
[23:41] <ikonia> I blieve it's www-data or something along those lines
[23:41] <nemo_home> jeffimix: different focus I think
[23:41] <ikonia> Ruud: "id www-data"
[23:41] <JJHathoway> kitche:  and no log is available to check?
[23:41] <jeffimix> nemo_home: oh, yeah, I wasn't trying to say avidemux isn't good too
[23:41] <DorkSide> nope doesn't work
[23:41] <Ruud> ikonia: uid=33(www-data) gid=33(www-data) groups=33(www-data)
[23:41] <syngin001> how can i stop the OS from automatically mounting and let me specify this in a script
[23:42] <HankHill> it does the little animation like it's connecting but it stops after a minut
[23:42] <kitche> JJHathoway: no you will just see that your system mounted a drive and umounted one that's about it
[23:42] <dario> i mean. after having entered the server amule is still not able tu download files
[23:42] <ikonia> rhavenn: mega, ok
[23:42] <ikonia> oos
[23:42] <HankHill> it does the little animation like it's connecting but it stops after a minut
[23:42] <HankHill> it does the little animation like it's connecting but it stops after a minut
[23:42] <ikonia> Ruud: mega, ok
[23:42] <ikonia> Ruud: so "sudo chown -R ruud:www-data ." while in /var/www
[23:42] <jc> syngin001: What type of drive is it?
[23:42] <nemo_home> jeffimix: then there's cinepaint, also with a different foucs :)
[23:42] <justin420> can anybody tell me why your 2 panels wouldnt appear to be loaded and some buttons dont show up when you start your x-session with compiz-fusion on gutsy using a nvidia card, im using nvidia-glx not nvidia-glx-new ( due to dvi problems )?
[23:42] <syngin001> external USB
[23:42] <MystaMax> HankHill, do you have other computers at your location already on the wifi network?
[23:42] <HankHill> yes
[23:42]  * m7634756_away oops
[23:43] <nemo_home> jeffimix: 'course Glasgow hasn't been developed much faster than GEGL has
[23:43] <jc> syngin001: Is it a flash memory chip?  Or an IDE hard drive or....?
[23:43] <MystaMax> any encryption?
[23:43] <jeffimix> nemo_home: indeed, I use it instead of the Gimp often times too... hehe
[23:43] <Agent_bob> JJHathoway linux does NOT keep dirrectory tree information for unmounted fs's   some application may however until it is refreshed   "nautilus or konqueror for example"
[23:43] <DorkSide> I tried mounting it, and it didn't work
[23:43] <DorkSide> but i have it installed, so it shouldn't have to mount
[23:43] <jeffimix> nemo_home:  yeah Cinelerra goes at a crawl too
[23:43] <Ruud> ikonia: This will change the owner to me and everybody in apaches group?
[23:43] <ikonia> Ruud: do you understand what we've done ?
[23:43] <dario> shall anybody helps me?
[23:44] <aldur> ruud ps -aux | grep apache
[23:44] <ikonia> Ruud: thats right, your the owner, but anyone in the www-data group can now write to it
[23:44] <syngin001> pretty sure it's IDE. 250GB external USB drive
[23:44] <dario> please contact me in private chat
[23:44] <JJHathoway> Agent_bob:  ok thanks, anyone by chance know if windows does?  trying to find the name of a file i erased from my USB thumbdrive
[23:44] <mariusz> hi everybody
[23:44] <ikonia> dario: just ask the question
[23:44] <MystaMax> hello
[23:44] <Ruud> aldur: this is a lot of output
[23:44] <mariusz> how to alt+ctrl+delete in ubuntu?
[23:44] <DorkSide> asdf
[23:44] <dario> ok
[23:44] <DorkSide> oh yeah
[23:44] <kitche> JJHathoway: the drive itself will have the file still on it until you over write where the file was
[23:44] <PriceChild> mariusz, what do you really want to do?
[23:44] <DorkSide> how do you ctrl+alt+delete in ubuntu?
[23:44] <linux88> is there a program thats lets me watch my network and all its traffic to my computers on my LAN, and coming from the internet ?
[23:45] <mariusz> close firefox
[23:45] <MystaMax> mariusz, do you want to see the task manager?
[23:45] <Ruud> ikonia: does that solve the problem?
[23:45] <dario> i have some problems with amule
[23:45] <mariusz> is break
[23:45] <ikonia> Ruud: it most certainly does
[23:45] <JJHathoway> mariusz: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts x
[23:45] <jeffimix> linux88:  Wireshark
[23:45] <DorkSide> ok
[23:45] <jbjbjb> mariusz: hit Alt+F2 and run gnome-system-monitor to get the "task manageR"
[23:45] <jeffimix> linux88: also Snort is a good tool, depending on what you are looking for
[23:45] <JJHathoway> kitche:  do you know a program to dump contents like that?
[23:45] <DorkSide> well, you know with the black screen switch users thing the ctrl+alt+backspace didn't do anything
[23:45] <kitche> JJHathoway: umm no
[23:46] <linux88> jeffimix ya, but isnt that more for the packets. i know thats the way i should look at ie but i wasnt looking for something with a GUI
[23:46] <Agent_bob> mariusz try ctrl+alt+esc    or do it the linux way.  open a terminal and type   killall firefox
[23:46] <Ruud> ikonia: I can write! yeeey. can't check right now if apache can as well
[23:46] <mariusz> i would like to run proces menager and close firefox
[23:46] <ikonia> Ruud: it can, trust me ;)
[23:46] <jc> mariusz: what are you trying to do?  Restart the OS?  If so, do Ctrl-alt-F1 and then Ctrl-Alt-Del
[23:46] <Ruud> aldur: Why did you need the ouput from that command?
[23:46] <jeffimix> linux88: well snort can run as a service to do packet logging
[23:47] <Ruud> ikonai: thanks a lot!
[23:47] <ikonia> Ruud: welcome
[23:47] <jc> mariusz: If you only want to re-start the Xserver,  Ctrl-Alt=Backsapce
[23:47] <ikonia> Ruud: pleasure to help people like you
[23:47] <syngin001> whats the command to run TOP and only see firefox for example
[23:47] <ikonia> syngin001: that command doesn't exist
[23:47] <Ruud> ikonia: which group am I in?
[23:47] <aldur> ruud it was for you to see who was runnig the apache program
[23:47] <ikonia> Ruud: "ruud" group and "adm"
[23:47] <jeffimix> kitche:  in windows you could use the Restoration program to restore files, dunno wht to use in linux
[23:47] <jc> syngin001: man top
[23:47] <syngin001> it must
[23:47] <Chillyboarder> anyone know where I can get an invisionfree clone script? can't find a chan about scripts.
[23:47] <Ruud> ikonia: No I meant "people like me"
[23:47] <linux88> jeffimix is snort better then wireshark
[23:48] <aldur> !symlink
[23:48] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:48] <ikonia> Ruud: helpful, polite people who listen and work a problem through
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Someone that actually listens
[23:48] <jc> syngin001: I know that you can use the pid
[23:48] <jeffimix> linux88: Snort and Wireshark tend to have very different uses, but both are used for packet logging, Snort does not have a GUI, it tends to run in the background, Wireshark is generally used as a graphical program in the foreground
[23:48] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: ruud is your man
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ..
[23:48] <Ruud> ikonia: Oh ok, I figure it is in my best interest
[23:48] <jc> syngin001: To find firefox's pid:  ps aux |grep firefox
[23:49] <syngin001> yes but sometimes you can't see the process to see the PID
[23:49] <ikonia> Ruud: well done, shame more doesn't
[23:49] <Agent_bob> mariusz some very useful commands for killing processes are  "pstree,   ps ax,  top,  kill,  killall,  pgrep,  pidof"   linux provides very precise control over the running processes
[23:49] <DrJim> I'm gettin the following error when compiling: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM   now I figure I'm missing a package, but I'm not sure which package, anyone have an idea?
[23:49] <jeffimix> linux88: furthermore Wireshark is useful for doing things like watching a tcp stream (a conversation basically) whereas Snort is good for sniffing packets for odd content
[23:49] <ikonia> syngin001: ps -ef | grep Firefox shows the pid
[23:49] <jc> syngin001: And then: top -p ####
[23:49] <ikonia> jc: hyou got it
[23:49] <ikonia> you
[23:49] <kitche> jeffimix: umm in windows it doesn't have a restoration program by default
[23:49] <aldur> ikonia how do I set a symlink I can't remember
[23:49] <syngin001> excellent thanks
[23:49] <jc> ikonia: Thanks...
[23:49] <Agent_bob> ikonia pidof firefox
[23:49] <rayray> what is the xorg config file anyone please?
[23:49] <ikonia> aldur: ln -s
[23:49] <ikonia> Agent_bob: nice trick,
[23:49] <Ruud> aldur: I think ikonia got it right as the output says www-data about 10 times
[23:49] <JJHathoway> why is it possible to change the "Places" Menu in the application bar?
[23:50] <kakoonia> hey
[23:50] <aldur> ikonia thanks
[23:50] <jeffimix> kitche: no that's not a default application, I mean there is a downloadable program by the name of "Restoration"
[23:50] <rayray> what is the xorg config file anyone please?
[23:50] <ikonia> rayray: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:50] <rayray> and where is it located anyone know?
[23:50] <kitche> jeffimix: true but in linux it's the same thing
[23:50] <syngin001> its how your display is configured
[23:50] <MystaMax> /etc/X11/xorg
[23:50] <rayray> thank you
[23:50] <MystaMax> .conf
[23:50]  * kitche does file restoring by hand
[23:50] <kakoonia> im trying to install avant-window-navigator.. but nothing ive tried wont make it work... always : "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[23:50] <jeffimix> kitche: eww :-P
[23:50] <kakoonia> any one got any idea?
[23:50] <aldur> ruud each of those is a thread process so your web server can server ten different files
[23:51] <ikonia> kakoonia: you'll need to log a bug, core dump is fatal
[23:51] <JJHathoway> *why is it not possible to change the "Places" menu in the application bar
[23:51] <linux88> jeffimix where is a good link for all that. you sound like you know a thing or two
[23:51] <Agent_bob> so anyone know why bash is not reading my /etc/profile when a new login shell is envoked ?
[23:51] <kakoonia> ikonia : how do i log it?
[23:51] <Ruud> ikonia: Thanks for the help. Unfortunately I have to get some sleep right now and can't finish setting up the rest of the server.
[23:51] <santor_> sup guys
[23:52] <ikonia> Agent_bob: its not set to by default as I recall
[23:52] <ikonia> Ruud: welcome
[23:52] <kitche> jeffimix: well programs are junk usually anyways I have never found a program to restore a file as good as diving into the drive bit by bit and pulling the file out :)
[23:52] <Ruud> aldur: I see. Thanks
[23:52] <mariusz> how to empty trash as root?
[23:52] <Agent_bob> ikonia that doesn't sound sain...   any idea where the setting was made ?    or is it a compile option ?
[23:53] <ikonia> Agent_bob: from memory, .bashrc is the root of it
[23:53] <santor_> i'm having a problem with my display, i tried to use the drivers for my intel 945 graphics card and when i restartx it makes my screen a scrolling resolution with an invisible mouse, had ot resore xorg.conf from a backup to get where i am
[23:53] <santor_> right now the driver is set to intel
[23:53] <iGeek> is there a way to get a list of files a package installed (like rpm -ql)?
[23:53] <ikonia> iGeek: dpkg -l
[23:53] <jc> Agent_bob: Might need to look at a profile in user dir that may be using?
[23:53] <jeffimix> linux88: well wireshark's homepage is here: http://www.wireshark.org/    it's a relatively easy to figure out program, the snort user manual is here http://www.snort.org/docs/snort_htmanuals/htmanual_280/                 as you can see Snort is a bit more complex being as it's rules based
[23:53] <iGeek> ikonia: thx
[23:54] <syngin001> igeek, does synaptic not show this
[23:54] <linux88> jeffimix thanks. Im not used to packets... so is wireshark a good newb site
[23:54] <iGeek> syngin001: using console version
[23:54] <syngin001> ok
[23:54] <Agent_bob> ikonia hmmm then it's not that in this case.    i have a costum ~/.bash* files   so...     i could set a line in  ~/.something to source /etc/profile  but that just sounds backwards.
[23:55] <bulmer> Agent_bob-> http://wooledge.org:8000/DotFiles
[23:55] <Agent_bob> looking
[23:55] <ikonia> Agent_bob: .bash_profile sources .bashrc as I recall in ubuntu
[23:55] <ikonia> Agent_bob: so either set it in .bash_profile direct or .bashrc
[23:55] <jc> iGeek:  man apt-cache
[23:55] <santor_> i tried seting the card to intel 945 and it set the driver to i810 which when i restarted X screwed things up
[23:55] <kakoonia> ikonia : how do i log it?
[23:56] <santor_> so it only works with the driver set to intel
[23:56] <santor_> but d3d doesn't work
[23:56] <iGeek> actually it's dpkg -L <package_name>
[23:56] <ikonia> kakoonia: sorry forgot about you. visit launchpad on http://www.launchpad.net
[23:56] <santor_> can someone offer any ideas
[23:56] <iGeek> jc: apt-cache doesn't provide that feature
[23:56] <iGeek> anyway... thx again
[23:56] <jeffimix> linux88: well they are both good programs, I'm not sure where to go to learn more of the basics though
[23:57] <Agent_bob> ikonia maybe i'm not making clear the issue.    when i login  /etc/profile is read,  but using  su - user -- openvt -slfc some,tty,number   it doesn't retain the environment of the first shell (which it shouldn't) but it also doesn't read the /etc/profile  which it should.
[23:58] <ikonia> Agent_bob ahh ok, .bash_profile is only read in a login shell, su - isn't a login shell
[23:58] <Agent_bob> ikonia su - is supposed to be a login shell   as well as the -l switch in the openvt command
[23:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: sorry, I missed the -l
[23:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: didn't see you put that
[23:59] <Robotchicken1886> sorry i lost the name,  it was a movie editor called like cinnella or something