[00:00] <ThusLex> meh
[00:00] <ThusLex> lucky BanisterKelly
[00:00] <ThusLex> i cant even get mine to come on :D
[00:01] <BanisterKelly> I am off to go fill the belly.  Y'all take care.
[00:01] <BluesKaj> kiso ThusLex
[00:01] <ThusLex> kiso?
[00:01] <ardchoille> !info kiso
[00:01] <ubotu> kiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[00:01] <ThusLex> ah ok
[00:01] <ThusLex> well i think it might work now
[00:01] <ThusLex> i will try it
[00:01] <ThusLex> bbs
[00:02] <davidrawson> hello
[00:03] <Milux>  hi, i see this error when add an pocast: "Podcast returned invalid data". This happen only for 2 feeds. I tried the feed on the same amarok version on virtula machine and work fine. It's a bug?
[00:04] <Milux>  i searched on google but i don't find anything that help me
[00:04] <davidrawson> Does anyone know how to allow other computers to connect to my computer, such as for Ktorrent or servers? All the ports on the router are opened, and the ktorrent says there may be a firewall, but I can't find it....
[00:04] <beefjerky> has anyone successfully set up Tor on Gutsy?
[00:07] <Milux> someone?
[00:07] <jembouge> yep?
[00:07] <Milux> i see this error when add an pocast: "Podcast returned invalid data". This happen only for 2 feeds. I tried the feed on the same amarok version on virtula machine and work fine. It's a bug?
[00:08] <jembouge> Milux : no idea, can't help
[00:08] <Milux> jembouge: thanks
[00:09] <ThusLex> ok theres now another problem
[00:09] <ThusLex> it takes ages to load ubuntu up
[00:09] <ThusLex> then when the page loads
[00:09] <ThusLex> my laptop freezes
[00:10] <ThusLex> NickPresta?
[00:11] <davidrawson> are there any server softwares that I can use without having to compile it myself? Such as HTTP and FTP?
[00:11] <jembouge> davidrawson > I guess you have apache2, am I wrong?
[00:11] <NickPresta> ThusLex, which page?
[00:11] <davidrawson> yea, but it doesn't work publicly
[00:12] <ThusLex> well the Ubuntu loading screen comes up for about 5 mins
[00:12] <jembouge> what do you mean?
[00:12] <ThusLex> then the desktop page comes up
[00:12] <ThusLex> and it just freezes
[00:12] <davidrawson> I can't have incoming connections
[00:12] <NickPresta> ThusLex, are you sure its frozen or does it just take a long time?
[00:12] <ThusLex> i dont know
[00:12] <ThusLex> i waited a few minuts
[00:12] <ThusLex> and the lights on the laptop went all weird
[00:12] <davidrawson> Ktorrent says that there may be a firewall, but I never installed one...
[00:12] <ThusLex> the caps log light kept flashing
[00:13] <ThusLex> the loading light stayed on
[00:13] <jembouge> why? did you change the settings?
[00:13] <davidrawson> OOh
[00:13] <jembouge> oh
[00:13] <jembouge> are you using a router?
[00:13] <jembouge> or a switch?
[00:13] <davidrawson> Opened the ports to the router
[00:13] <davidrawson> Still wont work
[00:13] <jembouge> is apache listening to the correct port?
[00:14] <NickPresta> ThusLex, I would let it go a little while longer this time, until the lights on your CD Drive stop flashing and such
[00:14] <davidrawson> I could configure apache2 if there were some GUI for it
[00:14] <inaety> hello i just installed the Crystal Project icon set, but my Kopete icons are all screwed up and such.  is there anyway i can restore the old icons and use these or just get a new icon set just for kopete
[00:14] <jembouge> and, did you launch it by the way (just in case)
[00:14] <davidrawson> Yea
[00:14] <jembouge> no need of a gui
[00:14] <davidrawson> I looked at my localhost and it works
[00:15] <ThusLex> oh its ok now
[00:15] <ThusLex> hm
[00:15] <davidrawson> Ktorrent doesn't work either
[00:15] <jembouge> ok then, let me install it too (since I'll have to tomorrow anyway)
[00:15] <ThusLex> now to get an IRC client on ubuntu
[00:15] <ThusLex> any ideas?
[00:15] <jembouge> well yeah, true
[00:15] <NickPresta> ThusLex, is this Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[00:15] <jembouge> I guess that's out of my knowledge then
[00:15] <aurelia> is anybody talk in french here ?
[00:15] <NickPresta> !fr | aurelia
[00:15] <ubotu> aurelia: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[00:16] <jembouge> anyone else to help?
[00:16] <davidrawson> Ktorrent doesnt work
[00:16] <jughead> How can I enable the mouse in games?  I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 and the latest flgrx driver installed with Envy.  Whenever I start a 3D game, the mouse pointer disappears
[00:16] <davidrawson> Limewire doesn't work
[00:16] <d03boy> when does the new version of ubuntu come out?
[00:16] <NickPresta> !hardy > d03boy
[00:16] <d03boy> so I can upgrade directly from dapper
[00:16] <d03boy> ah ok
[00:17] <jembouge> davidrawson : well all you can do basicly is reach the outside, but it can't reach you... anyone to help solve this?
[00:17] <ThusLex> ahh of course the internet doesnt work...
[00:18] <NickPresta> ThusLex, if you're using Kubuntu, the LiveCD should have Konversation on it, a very capable IRC client
[00:18] <ThusLex> well im using Ubuntu
[00:18] <ThusLex> and it doesnt even have intgernet
[00:18] <ThusLex> internet
[00:18] <ThusLex> im using a wireless BT Hub for the internet..
[00:18] <davidrawson> How do I find out what computers are connected to my network?
[00:21] <jembouge> well you could use dolphin and the network tab
[00:21] <jembouge> but that's my newbee way to look for windows shares
[00:22] <aurelia> i have a problem with adept
[00:22] <NickPresta> aurelia, what is it?
[00:22] <jembouge> davidrawson : type in your file browser remote:/
[00:22] <davidrawson> Why is it in samba shares?
[00:22] <davidrawson> I found it
[00:22] <jembouge> samba was made to share with the windows platform
[00:23] <davidrawson> ok
[00:23] <aurelia> another processus uses database of package systems
[00:23] <jembouge> you need the samba client to reach files from a windows computer
[00:23] <jembouge> and the samba server to share with windows clients
[00:24] <davidrawson> yea, ports 1 through 10000 are open on the router, and Ktorrent is on port 6670
[00:24] <NickPresta> !aptfix | aurelia
[00:24] <ubotu> aurelia: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:28] <davidrawson_> I install apache with sudo apt-get install apache2, right?
[00:29] <aurelia> nickpresta ubotu | it works
[00:29] <aurelia> thanks
[00:29] <NickPresta> davidrawson_, yep
[00:32] <davidrawson_> are there any FTP servers for linux?
[00:32] <tekteen> !ftpd
[00:32] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[00:33] <tekteen> !ftpd | davidrawson _
[00:33] <ubotu> davidrawson _: please see above
[00:35] <davidrawson_> Since the samba shares has a planet icon, does that mean that it can share things with the world?
[00:35] <tekteen> no
[00:35] <tekteen> only the samba server does that
[00:36] <tekteen> what u were using was for connecting to other shares
[00:36] <tekteen> !samba
[00:36] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[00:39] <davidrawson_> my user management isn't going into admin mode when I click the button
[00:40] <tekteen> ok
[00:40] <ThusLex> someone please read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3851131#post3851131
[00:40] <tekteen> davidrawson_: click alt+f2
[00:40] <tekteen> then type "kdesu systemsettings"
[00:40] <BluesKaj> if one uses the share option in windows and installs samba on kubuntu then konq will auto-find the windows pc on the network by typing in smb:/  in the konq addressbar ...at least that's how it worked in my setup
[00:41] <tekteen> davidrawson_: hope that helps
[00:41] <davidrawson_> there was an error
[00:41] <tekteen> what error
[00:41] <tekteen> ?
[00:41] <davidrawson_> DCOP communications error
[00:42] <jembouge> glad you found it :)
[00:42] <tekteen> I have no idea
[00:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> still having nothing but problems trying to get kde4rc1 working :\
[00:44] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, you have more patience than i do ...i quit trying a long time ago :)
[00:45] <davidrawson_> I'm going to download another kubuntu disk, every reinstall always has a different problem....what's the difference between the DVD iso and the CD iso?
[00:45] <tekteen> dvd iso is bigger
[00:45] <davidrawson_> which means?
[00:45] <tekteen> dvd iso also only fits on a DVD
[00:45] <davidrawson_> Does it have more?
[00:46] <tekteen> yep
[00:46] <Max-P> DVD iso have more packages included
[00:46] <tekteen> but u do not need it
[00:46] <davidrawson_> So just get the CD iso
[00:46] <tekteen> yep
[00:46] <vzduch> davidrawson_: you might want to try burning at a slower speed
[00:46] <stansmith> hello all, I am going to experiment with my cpu and compiling.  I have a core duo, and I want to play with both cores..my question is, does compiling use both cores by default or do i provide "-j3"?
[00:46] <davidrawson_> ok
[00:46] <Max-P> CD iso is enought
[00:47] <davidrawson_> I was using a rewritable, but I'm going to use a normal CD-R
[00:49] <jhutchins> stansmith: Not really a topic that's going to have a lot of knowledgebase here.
[00:49] <stansmith> jhutchins: see, im such a noob i didnt even know that
[00:49] <jhutchins> stansmith: #Gentoo'd probably be able to tell you where to go (they usually do).
[00:49] <stansmith> LOL, true
[00:49] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, yer ever so diplomatic :)
[00:50] <jhutchins> We do have a "building software" faq;
[00:50] <jhutchins> !build
[00:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:50] <stansmith> thanks, but I found a helpful little piece of info at : http://www.emperorlinux.com/hardware/coreduo/ (in case anyone else is interested)
[00:50] <davidrawson_> Does anyone know of the rockbox project?
[00:50] <nibbe> How do I mount the file Q3.ISO to haxx? I tested "sudo mount -o loop Q3. ISO haxx", but I got the error "you must specify the filesystem type.
[00:51] <stansmith> nibbe: i think you want to include "-t [type]"
[00:51] <stansmith> can someone confirm?
[00:51] <nibbe> what do I write instead of [type] ?
[00:51] <stansmith> the type of filesystem you are trying to mount
[00:52] <nibbe> I don't really know what that means
[00:52] <davidrawson_> Whenever I try to format a partition to NTFS in QTparted, it corrupts the HDD every time.
[00:53] <john__> Hey, I've got a bit of a problem.
[00:53] <stansmith> nibbe: not sure..... but try "-t iso9660
[00:53] <stansmith> "
[00:53] <davidrawson_> and the command "rm -rf /" killed my last kubuntu installation
[00:53] <jhutchins> !loop
[00:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:53] <NickPresta> davidrawson_, why would you ever run such a command? =(
[00:54] <stansmith> davidrawson_: you arent supposed to type that command in IRC
[00:54] <john__> I've just installed a fresh installation of kubuntu on a somewhat older dell and kde and kdm are both installed and working fine. So I typed in "startx
[00:54] <john__> "
[00:54] <johnfredy> hola
[00:54] <john__> And I got a FontPath error
[00:54] <davidrawson_> someone told me to, they said it would let me mount My external HDD
[00:54] <jhutchins> davidrawson_: well, yeah.  Make the partition with qtparted, format it with NT.
[00:54] <john__> Any suggestions?
[00:54] <jhutchins> davidrawson_: Or xp.
[00:54] <jhutchins> davidrawson_: You got hit by a newb trap.
[00:54] <stansmith> john__:  check the references of the fonts in your x config file
[00:54] <nibbe> x is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?
[00:55] <NickPresta> john__, in your xorg.conf file, you have a FontPath option that is trying to load something that doesn't exist.
[00:55] <davidrawson_> will macromedia flash work with wine?
[00:55] <nibbe> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 Q3.ISO haxx - "wrong fs type"
[00:55] <jhutchins> !loopback
[00:55] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[00:55] <davidrawson_> !iso
[00:55] <john__> Alright thanks.
[00:56] <NickPresta> john__, if you have a fairly vanilla xorg.conf, you can type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[00:56] <jhutchins> nibbe: -t first, then -o
[00:56] <stansmith> im compiling with the power of 2 cores right now
[00:56] <jhutchins> nibbe: Does it have a valid md5sum?
[00:56] <nibbe> tried that aswell
[00:56] <nibbe> got the same error
[00:56] <nibbe> Md5sum? how do I find that out?
[00:56]  * stansmith is compiling fluxbox
[00:56] <davidrawson_> if I install kubuntu, then windows, will grub recognize the new OS?
[00:57] <jhutchins> nibbe: md5sum <file> in linux.
[00:57] <stansmith> davidrawson_: no windows will erase it
[00:57] <stansmith> davidrawson_: install windows first then ubuntu
[00:57] <NickPresta> davidrawson_, it is usually suggested that Windows be installed first, as it was overwrite Grub
[00:57] <jhutchins> nibbe: You also need the reference md5sum from the source of the file.
[00:58] <nibbe> 3c9b649f5fbc06872e981ff35cc73c04
[00:58] <jhutchins> Windows doesn't actually wipe out linux, but it overwrites the bootloader so it won't boot.  There are ways to fix that, but it's easier to do it first.
[00:58] <jhutchins> nibbe: Now find the md5sum from wherever you downloaded the iso file, and compare.
[00:58] <jhutchins> nibbe: Usualy if the last four digits are good, the whole thing's good.
[00:58] <rei_0000> hi *
[00:58] <jhutchins> o/
[00:59] <NickPresta> rei_0000, hi
[00:59] <rei_0000> I'm looking for the kde admin/ dir template. where is it placed on the filesystem?
[00:59] <davidrawson_> What if I backup the bootsectors and then restore it after windows installs?
[00:59] <rei_0000> this is for KDE 3.5 series
[00:59] <Dragnslcr> Has anyone been able to transfer files to a phone over bluetooth in 7.10? I keep getting a "Forbidden" message when I try to copy files with KBluetooth's Send File
[01:00] <rei_0000> also to note that this is on the LTS
[01:00] <nibbe> I can't browse any websites right now
[01:00] <nibbe> lets assume that it's okay, what then?
[01:00] <jhutchins> davidrawson_: That's one way to do it.
[01:00] <davidrawson_> bluetooth works? windows never said my computer had bluetooth....
[01:00] <tekteen> rei_0000: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/
[01:00] <jhutchins> davidrawson_: Of course, instead of just overwriting the windows bootsector, linux detects windows and adds it to the linux bootloader, so it really is easier to do windows first.
[01:01] <jhutchins> nibbe: well, if you can't mount the iso file via loopback using the correct command, chances are it's a bad iso file.
[01:01] <rei_0000> tekteen: no, that's the configs, I'm looking for the admin folder which is used by the autotools system of KDE for controlling builds
[01:02] <nibbe> could you type the command? I'm not sure that I've done it right
[01:02] <tekteen> ok
[01:02] <davidrawson_> windows vista screws up my partitioning so I cant have a swap file and it leaves little 9000KB unallocated space everywhere.
[01:02] <nibbe> It works to mount it on windows.
[01:02] <jhutchins> rei_0000: sounds like you're messing with something that requires some deeper reading of man pages.
[01:02] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, sometimes the  /boot/grub/menu.lst has to be edited to include the windows mbr
[01:02] <nibbe> "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop Q3.ISO haxx" is what i used.
[01:02] <davidrawson_> master boot record?
[01:03] <BluesKaj> after the kubuntu install
[01:03] <rei_0000> jhutchins: no, I just need the admin dir that gets put in any NEW KDE application source tree
[01:03] <jhutchins> nibbe: Try full path to the mount point.
[01:03] <BluesKaj> davidrawson_, tthe mbr is there i, sometimes it's hidden or has to be listed
[01:03] <jhutchins> rei_0000: maybe ask in #kde
[01:03] <nibbe> okay, but I'm in the folder where the mount point is
[01:04] <rei_0000> ... I was sent here from there.... >:|
[01:04] <jhutchins> you can also try ./Q3...
[01:04] <davidrawson_> Would giving my 500GB external hard drive an OS be a good idea, noting that my bios supports usb booting?
[01:05] <nibbe> cannot execute binary file.
[01:05] <tekteen> davidrawson_: that is your choice
[01:05] <davidrawson_> Would it work with that?
[01:05] <tekteen> why not?
[01:05] <davidrawson_> Becuase it may not be compatable with linux since windows cannot be installed to it
[01:06] <davidrawson_> or is windows just being stupid
[01:06] <tekteen> why can't windows be installed to it?
[01:06] <BluesKaj> one can always format a fs on the drive
[01:06] <nibbe> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[01:06] <tekteen> the stupid part
[01:06] <tekteen> lol :-)
[01:07] <davidrawson_> WIndows vista setup says that I cant, it wouldn't let me. It said that IEEE or usb drives are not supported.
[01:07] <tekteen> ok
[01:07] <tekteen> windows it being windows
[01:08] <BluesKaj> davidrawson_, vista doesn't support usb external drives?
[01:08] <tekteen> linux does not care. A storage system is a storage system
[01:08] <davidrawson_> Might as well have windows for windows programs that don't work with wine though, game devs need to focus on linux too.
[01:09] <Max-P> Does a big download can make K3B not working? It get "Can't connect to host" message
[01:09]  * stansmith is now using fluxbox
[01:09] <loaderr> Anyone know how to share an internet connection from a kubuntu pc to a nokia n800 in ad-hoc mode ?
[01:10] <davidrawson_> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused....oh, I know how ti fix it.....
[01:10] <stansmith> fluxbox is so tight
[01:10] <davidrawson_> why does it do that?
[01:10] <tekteen> loaderr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc?highlight=%28ad-hoc%29
[01:12] <Max-P> Does a big download can make K3B not working? It get "Can't connect to host" message
[01:12] <tekteen> Max-P: I do not understand the question
[01:13] <davidrawson_> how do I login as root
[01:13] <tekteen> davidrawson_: in the konsole?
[01:13] <davidrawson_> is there a password?
[01:13] <Max-P> kdesu ou sudo
[01:14] <nibbe> the same password as your account
[01:14] <jhutchins> !sudo | davidrawson_
[01:14] <ubotu> davidrawson_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:14] <jhutchins> !kdesu | davidrawson_
[01:14] <ubotu> davidrawson_: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[01:15] <Max-P> Can a download affect the CDDB function of K3B?
[01:15] <Max-P> I always get errors
[01:16] <adepthelp> Hello i need some help with adept notifier, can i ask here?
[01:17] <tekteen> yep
[01:17] <tekteen> ask away
[01:17] <adepthelp> alright,
[01:17] <adepthelp> vim 6.4 was installed by default, but it's an old version so i downloaded 7.0, compiled + installed and removed 6.4
[01:17] <adepthelp> Now i want to upgrade, and adept still thinks i have 6.4 installed and not 7.0
[01:18] <adepthelp> what i want to do is simply remove vim from the list of updated software
[01:18] <adepthelp> but i cannot see such option
[01:18] <tekteen> u could just follow what is says.
[01:18] <tekteen> then install the new vim later
[01:18] <adepthelp> but vim 7.0 is already installed
[01:19] <tekteen> I can not help more then that
[01:19] <davidrawson> QTparted won't let me delete an unmounted partition
[01:19] <adepthelp> I cannot remove it from the list of updates?
[01:19] <adepthelp> there's only 'cancel changes', 'request removal' and 'request purging'
[01:19]  * genii sips a coffee
[01:19] <tekteen> adepthelp: cancel changes is what u want
[01:20] <tekteen> that will remove it
[01:20] <adepthelp> Cancel changes cancels the changes i have done
[01:20] <adepthelp> it does not remove it from the list :(
[01:20] <tekteen> yes it does
[01:20] <tekteen> cancel changes it to cancel what it WANTS to do
[01:21] <tekteen> not what is done :-)
[01:21] <adepthelp> but status remains upgradable and requested remains upgrade
[01:21] <davidrawson> XD
[01:21] <tekteen> ok
[01:21] <tekteen> no idea
[01:21] <tekteen> sorry
[01:21] <adepthelp> no problem
[01:22] <davidrawson> I was looking at linux torrents, and I found a nigbuntu.
[01:22] <adepthelp> sounds a bit racist
[01:22] <davidrawson> is that even an official release?
[01:23] <tekteen> no
[01:25] <ses59_> I wanted to install google earth on my unit and downloaded the bin file from google but did not know how to install it
[01:25] <tekteen> ses59_: there is a ubuntu package for it in medibuntu
[01:26] <tekteen> !medibuntu | ses59_
[01:26] <ubotu> ses59_: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:26] <pjeide> ses: in terminal, CD to the folder with the download, and ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:26] <pjeide> ses59_: see above
[01:27] <BlackDiamonds> I'm trying to get a Power User guy to convert to Ubuntu
[01:27] <BlackDiamonds> he really likes to be in control
[01:27] <BlackDiamonds> so what other things are there like Medibuntu ?
[01:27] <ses59_> thank you
[01:28] <tekteen> ?
[01:28] <pjeide> ses59_: Did that do it, or did you use Medibuntu?
[01:28] <davidrawson> omfg http://steve-o.org/files/images/a/Jewbuntu.png
[01:28] <tekteen> BlackDiamonds: I can not think of any
[01:28] <ses59_> i have done anything yet just went to the medibuntu web to read
[01:29] <pjeide> ses59_: Medibuntu provides some good packages, but don't waste your time if you've already downloaded the bin
[01:29] <BlackDiamonds> I remember in the days of Breezy there used to be wiki pages filled with that sorta stuff
[01:29] <pjeide> ses59_: are you comfortable in the terminal?
[01:29] <BlackDiamonds> I guess now Ubuntu has really fixed that stuff up
[01:29] <ses59_> yes
[01:29] <davidrawson> what's medibuntu?
[01:29] <pjeide> ses59_: just cd to directory with the .bin and ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:29] <tekteen> !medibuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:29] <pjeide> ses59_: It will start the install process
[01:29] <ses59_> ok
[01:30] <ses59_> i forget about the ./ command a lot
[01:31] <pjeide> ses59_: and if they didn't do it, then you would chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:31] <pjeide> then ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:31] <davidrawson> so it's mostly codecs that arent legal?
[01:31] <tekteen> yep
[01:31] <tekteen> and dvd decryption
[01:32] <luigi> anyone has the 8800 gts?
[01:32] <davidrawson> Who Cares about dvd decryption, Hollywood?
[01:32] <tekteen> not even them
[01:32] <tekteen> they gave up years ago
[01:32] <davidrawson> IT'S MICROSOFT'S FAULT
[01:32] <tekteen> just dont use th hddvd decryption
[01:32] <tekteen> the*
[01:32] <pjeide> tekteen: ya, now they just charge $5 for a popcorn to make up for it...
[01:32] <tekteen> lol
[01:32] <davidrawson> Why not?
[01:33] <luigi> someone have a 8800 gts? it's compatible with linux?? who know?
[01:33] <davidrawson> test it
[01:33] <davidrawson> use the liveCD
[01:34] <tekteen> Hollywood thinks the NEW HD DVD decryption will be unbreakable
[01:34] <luigi> isn't for me.....
[01:34] <davidrawson> where's your brother, mario
[01:34] <luigi> if someone know...
[01:34] <tekteen> currently there are many ways to break it. LOL
[01:34] <davidrawson> Thinks
[01:34] <ses59_> if someone wrote it someone will find a way to break it
[01:35] <luigi> davidrawson he's in the game,.,.,.,. waiting for me!!!
[01:36] <adepthelp> thanks for the help tekteen, i sorted it out
[01:36] <adepthelp> :D bye
[01:36] <tekteen> bye
[01:36] <davidrawson> COOL! I was copying stuff, then something went wrong, so I clicked continue or something and it resumed! Unlike windows, when it just stops.....
[01:36] <tekteen> :-)
[01:37]  * Tm_T slaps Darth-afk 
[01:37] <BluesKaj> we get so many trekkies in here
[01:38] <Tm_T> luigi: yes it should work
[01:38] <davidrawson> Mac is for People who don't know how to use a computer, Windows is for more experienced users(who don't mind being bombarded by viruses and monopoly), and linux is for people who are free
[01:38] <Tm_T> davidrawson: aha
[01:38] <pjeide> davidrawson: the presumtion that OS X is for computer illiterate people is fallacious
[01:39] <pjeide> s/presumtion/presumption
[01:39] <tekteen> I have to agree
[01:39] <luigi> -Tm_T thanks!!!
[01:39] <davidrawson> It's not as flexible
[01:39] <tekteen> the one u got right was linux
[01:39] <xevil> pjeide: I agree with you... nothing wrong with the MAC
[01:39] <pjeide> xevil: And I think MAC is a still thing, because it isn't an acronym :)
[01:39] <tekteen> mac u got all rong
[01:40] <Tm_T> also that's offtopic here
[01:40]  * pjeide nods and bows out
[01:40] <xevil> pjeide: I know you can't beat it for video editing
[01:40] <Tm_T> so just drop it before it's full flamewar
[01:40] <davidrawson> What video editing is on linux?
[01:41] <davidrawson> GOOD video edition
[01:41] <davidrawson> editing*
[01:41] <pjeide> Tm_T: thanks :-)  The potential for getting inadvertently heated there was high
[01:42] <tekteen> davidrawson: I have heard of "kino"
[01:42] <davidrawson> It's not that great, the video importing from the camera has horizontal tearing
[01:42] <tekteen> no idea
[01:42] <pjeide> Mind if I pm you davidrawson?
[01:43] <lockd> pjeide: MAC is an acronym
[01:43] <pjeide> negative
[01:43] <pjeide> it is an abbreviation.
[01:43] <davidrawson> Machine of Apple Corporation?
[01:43]  * genii ponders digikam
[01:43] <jokojoko> Hello
[01:43] <pjeide> Macintosh..
[01:43] <davidrawson> pm me
[01:43] <davidrawson> MACintosh
[01:44] <tekteen> hello jokojoko
[01:44] <pjeide> WYOming
[01:44] <draik> ardchoille: Hello
[01:44] <scooter_> im gonna sound like a ttl noob but i need help
[01:44] <pjeide> who says I'm going to WYO?
[01:44] <pjeide> !ask | scooter_
[01:44] <ubotu> scooter_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> Media Access Controller
[01:44] <ardchoille> draik: Hi, how goes?
[01:44] <BluesKaj> Apple MACintosh computer
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> e.g. MAC address
[01:44]  * pjeide drops it
[01:44] <draik> ardchoille: Back at it again with the DMA
[01:44] <davidrawson> Windows is dangerous, you could break through and fall to your death.
[01:44] <ardchoille> draik: :(
[01:44] <hellhound> i know this is off topic but does anyone know the server/channel to get help with google calendar?
[01:45] <lockd> Dragnslcr: i remembered what it was for, just not the words that comprised it
[01:45] <tekteen> davidrawson: true words
[01:45] <ardchoille> davidrawson: lol
[01:45] <draik> ardchoille: Yeah, I know. I wish I could find a local 'puter shop that deals with Linux so they can take a look at everything that is inside
[01:45] <NickPresta> Would I remove the "splash" option (in my menu.lst) to get rid of that Kubuntu loading screen on boot? I want to see what's going on at boot...
[01:46] <iceEra> where do i  change kde Themes?=
[01:46] <davidrawson> Do windows(wine) programs work on internet?
[01:46] <iceEra> yes
[01:46] <ardchoille> NickPresta: yes
[01:46] <tekteen> davidrawson: yes
[01:46] <BluesKaj> DMA Direct Memory Access
[01:46] <ardchoille> NickPresta: And you can go even further and remove the "quiet" too, but that may be too much.
[01:46] <davidrawson> Does direct X work with wine, or do I have to install it first?
[01:46] <NickPresta> ardchoille, thanks. I just want to diagnose what is causing the boot to take so long as this one specific point.
[01:47] <lockd> davidrawson: wine comes with some subset of directx 8
[01:47] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Ah, ok
[01:47] <lockd> davidrawson: I'm not exactly sure you -can- install it
[01:47] <pjeide> davidrawson: http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/unix.html .. Since the first beta of OS X, Apple has employed a *NIX kernel behind the scenes.. some sort of Debian or BSD one-off, I am not mistaken
[01:47] <davidrawson> Some programs don't work because they only work on 32bit, 16bit, or high color....
[01:47] <iceEra> davidrawson, you allso has a program called crossover To use windows apps in
[01:47] <lockd> can anyone confirm or deny this?
[01:48] <pjeide> davidrawson: OS X has its own package repositories using apt-get
[01:48] <pjeide> davidrawson: OS X is more *nix than mac
[01:48] <pjeide> it just looks nice :)
[01:48] <lockd> davidrawson: oh, right. 24-bit is the highest actual color depth
[01:48] <ardchoille> pjeide: iirc, OS X is now based on a modified FreeBSD
[01:48]  * pjeide nods
[01:49] <lockd> davidrawson: someone gave me a patch to make it appear as though it was 32 bit to the windows program, while running on 24-bit. but it didn't work out at all
[01:49] <ardchoille> Which didn't take too much doing since it was NeXT anyway
[01:49]  * ardchoille ducks
[01:49] <pjeide> I haven't been up on my reading as I haven't opened an Apple in over 6 years now.. the last OS X I had on a home machine was the beta
[01:49] <davidrawson> what if I just virtualize windows? with virualBox
[01:49] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[01:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:50] <lockd> davidrawson: I believe that should work. I again don't know anything about the hardware support, which is what you probably care about
[01:50] <iceEra> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-345037.html
[01:50] <iceEra> you can look there
[01:50] <hydrogen> I ate an apple.
[01:50] <iceEra> :)
[01:50] <hydrogen> it was good.
[01:50] <hydrogen> the doctor didn't come.
[01:50] <iceEra> Hydro
[01:50] <iceEra> where do i find kdm theme changer:P?
[01:51] <hydrogen> systemsettings
[01:51] <davidrawson> Like doctors are vampires(taking our blood...) and apples are garlic
[01:51] <hydrogen> in advanced
[01:51] <hydrogen> login manager
[01:51] <iceEra> and+
[01:51] <iceEra> ?
[01:52] <hydrogen> there you go
[01:52] <iceEra> Ty honey:D
[01:52] <ardchoille> I need a wiki-like app for KDE. One that doesn't require GTK/gnome and I don't have to install a web server for it.
[01:53] <hydrogen> uhh
[01:53] <davidrawson> I wish there was a way to copy CD's rawly
[01:53] <NickPresta> ardchoille, see #k-ot
[01:53] <hydrogen> whats the point of a wiki if its not on the internets
[01:53] <killer_> any pointers on installing beryl on Geforce 7300 in kubuntu fiesty?
[01:53] <lockd> ardchoille: I believe you have to install a web server regardless. there IS some CGI kioslave
[01:54] <ardchoille> hydrogen: It'll be a local knowledge-base type thing for three users on this machine
[01:54] <lockd> ardchoille: meaning you can run php programs right inside konqueror
[01:54] <lockd> ardchoille: but wiki isn't just PHP, it also requires a database server like MySQL
[01:54] <davidrawson> Can I run windows web servers within kubuntu?
[01:54] <lockd> davidrawson: why?
[01:54] <ardchoille> lockd: wiki-like
[01:54] <davidrawson> apache don't work for me
[01:55] <ardchoille> lockd: The ability to link notes/documents?
[01:55] <NickPresta> ardchoille, http://www.tiddlywiki.com/
[01:55] <NickPresta> ardchoille, you can run it from a browser. it's a single HTML file really
[01:55] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Wow, sounds nice
[01:56] <NickPresta> ardchoille, it is a lightweight wiki that works well for local users
[01:56] <lockd> davidrawson: I think apache would be easier to get working than anything else. do you just need a very simple web server?
[01:56] <ardchoille> NickPresta: That's exactly what I needed, thanks
[01:56] <davidrawson> I need a server that I can administer
[01:56] <davidrawson> how did you make my name come up red?
[01:56] <hydrogen> what do you need this server to do?
[01:56] <hydrogen> just serve filez?
[01:57] <NickPresta> davidrawson, lighttpd works well
[01:57] <davidrawson> I need gui, can't figure out command line.
[01:57] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Was I ot earlier? Sorry if I was.
[01:57] <NickPresta> ardchoille, I meant that we could discuss it further in #kubuntu-offtopic if you wish :)
[01:58] <ardchoille> NickPresta: I'll join there, thanks
[01:58] <pjeide> davidrawson: at that pace you're probably right
[01:58] <davidrawson> how did you make your thing red?
[01:58] <pjeide> Your name was in the string of chat.
[01:59] <lockd> which doesn't always look red, to anyone else
[02:00] <davidrawson> so does pjeide make it red to you?
[02:00] <pjeide> davidrawson: If your name is 'targeted' many clients will highlight the line somehow and even notify you if the application is in the background to notify you that you've been directly addressed.
[02:00] <pjeide> yes
[02:01] <davidrawson> gonna do something now....
[02:02] <scooter_> can someone tell me where to get a program that plays mp3's
[02:03] <scooter_> can someone help the scooter?
[02:04] <lockd> scooter_: you just want a program to play mp3s?
[02:04] <lockd> scooter_: or to handle playlists and all that
[02:04] <scooter_> yea
[02:04] <scooter_> just to play mp3's
[02:04] <scooter_> playlists would be good tho
[02:05] <hydrogen> AMAROK
[02:05] <hydrogen> err
[02:05] <hydrogen> you don't need caps
[02:05] <hydrogen> though it deserves them
[02:05] <dick-richardson> when viewing flash video, it will stop. both in firefox and konqueror. I have to ctrl-alt-bckspce to get it working again temporarily
[02:05] <davidrawson> how would I make my external HDD bootable?
[02:06] <scooter_> i tried amarok
[02:06] <scooter_> but none of my songs playe
[02:06] <scooter_> d
[02:06] <dick-richardson> scooter_: what codec?
[02:06] <lockd> scooter_: does sound work or is it "file corrupts"?
[02:06] <hydrogen> you need to install libxine-ffmpeg
[02:06] <scooter_> file corrupts
[02:06] <hydrogen> err
[02:06] <hydrogen> libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:06] <dick-richardson> libxine-extracodecs
[02:06] <hydrogen> which just provides libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:07] <scooter_> ok the only problem is i have no clue what im doing
[02:07] <lockd> scooter_: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[02:07] <davidrawson> How do I make my external hard disk boot? Do I have to fdisk /mbr?
[02:07] <dick-richardson> open konsole, type sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs (or libxine1-ffmpeg)
[02:07] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Thank you for the recommendation, tiddlywiki is perfect for us.
[02:08] <NickPresta> ardchoille, I'm glad it fits your needs. I found it a little while ago and it's useful for situations like yours. :)
[02:08] <ardchoille> :)
[02:08] <naelr> genii: I got a good one for ya
[02:08] <scooter_> ok i did that
[02:08] <scooter_> so its good to go now?
[02:08] <genii> naelr: You figured out the issue?
[02:08] <lockd> davidrawson: your bios has to support it, then you have to mark it bootable in cfdisk or somesuch
[02:08] <dick-richardson> scooter_: should be, give it a shot
[02:08] <ardchoille> lockd: Thanks for the kioslave hint, found some I like in the repos :)
[02:09] <naelr> genii: well I grabbed the wrong ubuntu CD this morning and installed it again and the damn thing booted...
[02:09] <naelr> genii: it was fiesty
[02:09] <naelr> genii: when I did the updates and it got a newer kernel.. it gave me the same busybox
[02:09] <lockd> ardchoille: (It's off topic, but OS X users vehemently hate things like kioslaves)
[02:09] <ardchoille> hehe
[02:09] <naelr> genii: I rebooted and picked the older kernel and the damn thing booted again!
[02:09] <davidrawson> FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[02:09] <naelr> WTF....
[02:10] <genii> naelr: That is very bizarre and I have no idea why it is like that
[02:10] <lockd> ardchoille: really do come in handy, especially fish, ftp, etc
[02:10] <scooter_> dick-richardson: it says local file does not exist
[02:11] <genii> naelr: Did you try yet the feisty->gutsy upgrade route?
[02:11] <naelr> what could be the difference between 2.6.20-15-generic and 2.6.20-16-generic
[02:11] <ardchoille> lockd: And apt:/ locate:/ man:/ info:/
[02:11] <naelr> genii: no I was just about to do that ...
[02:11] <davidrawson> Do I have to unmount all drives for cfdisk to work?
[02:11] <hydrogen> see the changelog naelr
[02:11] <lockd> ardchoille: oh right, those are handy.
[02:11] <genii> naelr: I did hear some things about the -16 kernel but forget exactly
[02:11] <naelr> hydrogen.. yea I was gonna look into that too... but gutsy woudln't boot eitehr and it is like .22 or something isn't it
[02:12] <davidrawson> is there a boot manager I can use to make a mbr?
[02:13] <dick-richardson> scooter_: that's odd...google isn't helping much either. is the hard drive good?
[02:13] <scooter_> dick-richardson: cant see why it wouldnt be
[02:13] <naelr> but see I installed gentoo last night and complied the damn thing for my machine and it still wouldn't boot so it leads me to believe it might be something that the developers mght now consider "depreciated"
[02:14] <naelr> er *might now consider
[02:14] <davidrawson> how do I use cfdisk?
[02:14] <genii> Tm_T: :(
[02:14] <Tm_T> genii: yes?
[02:15] <lockd> naelr: deprecated generally never breaks compatibility, or causes fatal errors
[02:15] <scooter_> dick-richardson: i just got the computer a few months ago, and vista crashed on me so i figured i'd use kubuntu
[02:15] <genii> Tm_T: [21:14] *** Tm_T takes the permission to talk from you.
[02:15] <davidrawson> Does marking a partition in QTparted the active one make it bootable?
[02:16] <Tm_T> genii: ignore it
[02:16] <davidrawson> unless installing kubuntu to the HDD makes it boot with grub anyway....
[02:17]  * genii sips a coffee
[02:17] <davidrawson> does installing kubuntu create a master boot record?
[02:20] <davidrawson> how do I format a partition to ntfs?
[02:21] <davidrawson> guys?
[02:21] <scooter_> does someone wanna get me to a server that can help me with this?
[02:22] <davidrawson> fine
[02:22] <dennister> hecy channel, i've got a wierd issue on this new installation: half the apps in my k-menu are preceeded by this string that i can't seem to get rid of: _: Entries in ke-menu: <app...
[02:22] <dennister> anyone seen this before and/or know how to get rid of them?
[02:24] <dennister> my, my...some impatient people in here tonight...
[02:26] <naelr> here goes the reboot!!!!
[02:27] <genii> dennister: I've had it before. Never did find the solution or reason, instead did a gnome install then the kubuntu-desktop install
[02:27] <genii> naelr: Good luck!
[02:27] <dennister> genii: awwwwwwwww
[02:27] <naelr> sumbitch is bootin!
[02:28] <naelr> but the mouse and keyboard don't work
[02:28] <dennister> but i don't want gnome <whine, whine, whine>
[02:28] <dennister> heheheh...maybe i'll try kde4 instead
[02:29] <genii> dennister: LOL   well, thats how I got rid of em anyhow. I agree it's extremely annoying
[02:29] <naelr> wtf... mouse and keyboard ... gggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[02:29] <genii> naelr: I suspect for the mouse/keyboard fix you may need the kernel switch of  usb-handoff
[02:30] <dennister> what i downloaded for this install was the kubuntu install disk, hoping to avoid the gnome completely
[02:31] <genii> dennister: Alternate or regular cd?
[02:31] <naelr> using my kvm and a usb to ps2 converter .heheh
[02:31] <naelr> genii: I don't understand... in grub?
[02:32] <genii> naelr: Wait, you had a kvm when it booted?
[02:32] <naelr> genii: no sir .. I plugged it in when the keyboard on the laptop and mouse stopped working
[02:33] <naelr> genii: where do I put this switch?
[02:33] <genii> naelr: Aaah. Well yeas at grub prompt (or editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst default kernel)
[02:33] <dennister> genii: regular
[02:33] <naelr> genii: ok I will put it in there and reboot
[02:33] <genii> naelr: use e to edit at grub prompt, add to end of kernel line
[02:34] <naelr> genii: yea I am in gnome now .. I  just gonna add it to the menu.lst file
[02:34] <genii> naelr: The grub method allows to see if it works, if so then it can be made permanent
[02:34] <genii> naelr: Or editing alla time, whatever you like ;)
[02:34] <dennister> and i like this, without the gnome-desktop at all, cause it doesn't want to use apps like evolution all the time
[02:35] <naelr> genii: true
[02:35] <genii> dennister: Well, maybe try alternate I guess
[02:35] <genii> dennister: Or perhps you could exit kde, then try from console login, for kicks, sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <dennister> there's got to be another solution...i'm trying to find the k-emnu in system settings
[02:37] <naelr> and another thing... why do I get invalid mac address please complain to your hardware vendor
[02:37] <naelr> genii: that worked.... sweet !
[02:37] <dennister> genii...ok, i can do this last suggestion of yours...after having installed almost-all my apps, gotten my kmail contacts all set...
[02:37] <genii> naelr: :)
[02:37] <naelr> so no I gonna try the upgrade path to gutsy!
[02:37] <genii> dennister: I'll be around, keep me posted :)
[02:38] <naelr> er I mean now I gonna try
[02:38] <dennister> k
[02:38] <naelr> afk
[02:42] <ses59_> when move around in google earth the picture is very jumpy is that normal or is just my video card just to old to display good picture ati 256kb with tv card is in the unit
[02:43] <TyFuZ^^> Hi i'm having some problems with kubuntu desktop or mouse not really sure.. can anyone help?
[02:43] <dennister> genii: didn't work i'm afraid...garbage is still here
[02:45] <genii> dennister: Well, if the next step would be where you reinstall or such anyhow... maybe get entirely out of X (kill kdm tc etc) then --purge kubuntu-desktop   and rm ~/.kde  then install it again
[02:46] <TyFuZ^^> i'm having some problems with kubuntu desktop or mouse not really sure.. can anyone help? when i'm in a window like adept manager or something else i cant click on the menu bar and the same way around need to right click to get it working. but sometimes even that doesnt work?
[02:46] <dennister> genii: found it!
[02:47] <dennister> all i did was go into kcontrol-->Desktop-->K-menu and chose "name only"
[02:47] <genii> dennister: Should file that somewhere
[02:47] <dennister> much faster :)
[02:47] <genii> I agree
[02:48] <dennister> well, i'm filing it in my brain's file manager in case others come across the same issue
[02:49] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: i can't help, but perhaps genii can?
[02:49]  * genii returns since his ears are burning
[02:50] <TyFuZ^^> genii?
[02:50] <genii> TyFuZ^^: Actually sorry to disappoint but I'm not familiar with that problem
[02:50] <genii> Or possible fixes, etc
[02:51] <TyFuZ^^> hmm :/
[02:51] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: u may have to wait, then, until some of the other true afficionados come online
[02:52] <dennister> i'm surprised the channel is so quiet, actually
[02:54] <TyFuZ^^> okey
[02:57] <scooter_> can someone help me play mp3's?
[02:57] <master_> so someone explain this to me: i hit alt-f2 and type in "kopete" and run that, it loads the file at /usr/bin/kopete. i go to konsole and type "which kopete" and i get /usr/local/bin/kopete. (this is just an example of a few programs this happens with)
[02:58] <angel_> scooter:sudo aptitude install  aptitude install libxine-xvdr libxinerama1 libxine1-console libxineliboutput-fbfe
[02:58] <Tm_T> !mp3 | scooter_
[02:58] <ubotu> scooter_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <Tm_T> angel_: no
[02:58] <angel_> n_n  Oops
[02:58] <coteyr> ok got a question, can anyone recomment a peice of software that would let me download tv shows as they come out (i.e. ted for hellanzb)
[03:00] <dennister> coteyr: never heard of that, except using rss feeds to alert you to stuff coming out...but i'm not a very good user of aggregator
[03:01] <coteyr> yeah i found tvnzb
[03:01] <coteyr> that looks like it gives you a nzb file
[03:01] <coteyr> queston is how to automaticaly download it with hella
[03:01] <coteyr> just got to get the nzb to the right folder and hella will pick it up
[03:03] <coteyr> Alt.binz supports it but it's windows, they ware it works with wine but I
[03:03] <coteyr> m not doing that
[03:03] <Tm_T> I hope you're not talking about anything illegal
[03:04] <coteyr> nope
[03:04] <flaccid> !illegal
[03:04] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[03:04] <dennister> coteyr: well, the concept sounds interesting...i'm reading up on hellanzb now
[03:04] <flaccid> dang
[03:04] <coteyr> not illigal
[03:04] <dennister> flaccid: not to worry, just discussing automation
[03:05] <hydrogen> dood
[03:05] <hydrogen> own up
[03:05] <coteyr> and even if not it's a service providede by the networks
[03:05] <coteyr> hellanzb is awsome
[03:05] <dennister> heck, getting tv is legal ota
[03:06] <flaccid> dennister: im not worrying about anything, i was seeing if there is an entry. i never worry about that crap
[03:06] <dennister> k
[03:06] <scooter_> can someone help me rele quick?
[03:07] <dennister> scooter_: with what
[03:07] <scooter_> dennister: i need to figure out how to play .mp3 files
[03:07] <TyFuZ^^> i'm having some problems with kubuntu desktop or mouse not really sure.. can anyone help? when i'm in a window like adept manager or something else i cant click on the menu bar and the same way the other way around need to right click to get it working. but sometimes even that doesnt work?
[03:07] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: perhaps flaccid can help u with ur problem...he's real good
[03:08] <coteyr> TyFuZ^^ what kinda mouse and could it be window focus pproblems
[03:08] <dennister> !restricted
[03:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:08] <Beaster144> Finally... back onto the good channels.
[03:08] <flaccid> yeah go to system settings and change the window behaviour perhaps
[03:08] <dennister> scooter_: that should give u everything u need
[03:09] <naelr> does anyone notice that windows or linux uses your laptop batteries better?
[03:09] <BloodyTux> So, anyone need help?
[03:09]  * BloodyTux needs a life...
[03:09] <dennister> lol @ BloodyTux
[03:09] <dennister> so do we all, hon
[03:09] <TyFuZ^^> I have i microsoft optical wheel.. a really standard one.. dont know what windows focus is since i'm really new to linux
[03:10] <BloodyTux> Yep.
[03:11]  * BloodyTux sighs. Slow day huh...
[03:11] <TyFuZ^^> i tried Ubuntu too same problem
[03:12] <coteyr> TyFuZ^^ it sounds like a focus problem or your mouse buttons are set wrong
[03:12] <coteyr> cat /ets/X11/xorg.conf | grep z-axis and send that to a pasie
[03:12] <coteyr> !pastie
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <coteyr> oh
[03:12] <coteyr> don't know how to get you one thoes
[03:12] <scooter_> dennister: it says "cannot find package"
[03:13] <BloodyTux> !paste
[03:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:13] <dennister> scooter_: what is "it"? terminal?
[03:14] <scooter_> yea
[03:14] <TyFuZ^^> i think it's the focus thing. how do i fix that?
[03:14] <scooter_> konsole
[03:14] <dennister> scooter_: have u tried opening acrobat? that often does a batch-adept for mp3 support
[03:15] <dennister> it just did for me, anyway, on this new installation
[03:16] <BloodyTux> Cricket, cricket.
[03:16] <scooter_> dennister: ok i opened up adept but i have no clue what to do with it
[03:17] <scooter_> dennister: i've been using kubuntu for like a week
[03:17] <dennister> scooter_: open up amarok, close adept
[03:17] <scooter_> dennister: ok
[03:17] <dennister> scooter_: then go to settings
[03:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> well then.  i'm pretty much screwed
[03:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have to finish a paper for english...  and my flash drive is MIA
[03:18] <scooter_> dennister:then....
[03:18] <dennister> settings-->configure amarok-->
[03:18] <BloodyTux> Sucks to be you dude. Long time no see.
[03:18] <scooter_> mhmm
[03:19] <dennister> then Collection...tell amarok where ur music files are stored, -->apply
[03:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> it could be in the car.  but my fiancee's got it right now, so i'll have to check when she gets home
[03:19]  * BloodyTux needs to put together a 50 slide powerpoint by 9:00 tomorrow.
[03:20] <dennister> scooter_: after u've told amarok where the mp3 files are, and hit ok to close the dialog box, go to Tools-->Rescan Collection
[03:20] <hydrogen> so why are you here.
[03:20] <hydrogen> well
[03:21] <hydrogen> I take that back
[03:21] <hydrogen> I know why you're here
[03:21] <hydrogen> the same reason i'm here when I need to write four papers in the next two days
[03:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> procrastinaaaaaaaaaaation
[03:21] <BloodyTux> Hydrogen: Because I have no life and my grade sucks so I don't care...
[03:21] <dennister> after that you should have a library or some mp3 files to drag to the big, righthand box...try to play that and u should get a warning box that you can't handle mp3 files yet...do u want to install mp3 support...Click Yes!
[03:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> (imagine that last line sung)
[03:21] <knights> For some reason I have to use the Network tool to connect to the net after every reboot, I think its because for some reason my ethernet internet wasn't detected during install. How do I get it to connect to the internet auto. on boot?
[03:22] <dennister> scooter_: that should start the adept batch install process without you njeeding to do much else but sit back and watch for a minute or so
[03:22]  * BloodyTux sighs and pokes at his empty pile of red bulls, liquid ices, and 5 hour enrgys
[03:22] <BloodyTux> I'm pathetic....
[03:23] <hydrogen> and off topic!
[03:23] <scooter_> ok it scanned the whole computer, all my music is there
[03:23] <scooter_> but none of it is playing
[03:23] <BloodyTux> >.>
[03:23] <scooter_> its skipping all my .mp3 tracks
[03:23] <dennister> scooter_: no, just drag one mp3 file over to the right hand side
[03:24] <dennister> hit play, and u should get a warning box that you can't handle mp3 files yet...do u want to install mp3 support...Click Yes!
[03:24] <TyFuZ^^> I dont know
[03:24] <TyFuZ^^> i tried changing the focus stuff and nothing happend
[03:24]  * BloodyTux points at the list and then counts the number of people actually talking and getting/giving help...,"4"
[03:24] <TyFuZ^^> it's really weird
[03:24] <scooter_> nothing like that is coming up though
[03:24] <BloodyTux> Wait.. 5
[03:25] <dennister> have you dragged an mp3 file into the playlist window?
[03:25] <TyFuZ^^> since sometimes when i try to use one part of a window i cant click on that but i can click on another part..
[03:25] <BloodyTux> Good luck guys. Cya
[03:25] <dennister> bye BloodyTux
[03:25] <TyFuZ^^> it's weird anyone have any ideas?
[03:26] <dennister> scooter_: have you dragged an mp3 file into the playlist window yet?
[03:26] <bmk789> anyone have an ati/nvidia RF remote?
[03:27] <scooter_> do i have to rescan?
[03:27] <scooter_> cuz that put all of them in the playlist window
[03:27] <dennister> no
[03:27] <dennister> scooter_: just drag an mp3 file from the Collection on left to the playlist window on right
[03:27] <dennister> never mind that they're all there in playlist
[03:28] <dennister> just hit the play button below the playlist window
[03:28] <scooter_> it goes through all of my songs
[03:28] <scooter_> but it doesnt play them
[03:28] <flaccid> codecs installed?
[03:29] <scooter_> it wouldnt let me for some random reason
[03:29] <flaccid> does it give a dialog at all
[03:29] <scooter_> no
[03:29] <scooter_> nothing like that
[03:29] <scooter_> it just skips everything
[03:29] <flaccid> but you are saying codecs are not installed?
[03:29] <scooter_> no it wouldnt let me
[03:29] <scooter_> whats the command for it
[03:29] <flaccid> why is the error for that
[03:29] <flaccid> what release are you on?
[03:29] <flaccid> !codecs
[03:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:30] <flaccid> you read the first link about what to install..
[03:31] <dennister> scooter_: flaccid is one of the gurus/channel operators here...i'll leave you to his good care
[03:31] <scooter_> so is this the right command?
[03:31] <scooter_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:32] <flaccid> i'd do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:32] <scooter_> it says "couldnt find package" for both commands
[03:33] <flaccid> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:33] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[03:33] <flaccid> are you on gutsy with the multiverse repos enabled?
[03:33] <TyFuZ^^> can my problems with the desktop have something with my Ati Radeon 9700 Pro graph card?
[03:33] <scooter_> i dont even know
[03:33] <scooter_> i have no idea what im doing
[03:33] <flaccid> what version of ubuntu did you install?
[03:34] <scooter_> im using kubuntu
[03:34] <TyFuZ^^> i've read that many have problems with kubunt while having Ati cards?
[03:35] <flaccid> TyFuZ^^: im not sure your exact problem. im on ati radeon 9600 atm
[03:35] <TyFuZ^^> okey hmm :/
[03:35]  * naelr loves Kubuntu!
[03:37] <dennister> naelr: welcome to the club
[03:38] <dennister> flaccid: perhaps TyFuZ^^ installation hasn't recognized his mouse properly? perhaps a sudo dpkg --configure (from the the xorg file)
[03:38] <flaccid> i guess scooter had a panic attack
[03:38] <flaccid> i dont understand the behaviour..
[03:40] <TyFuZ^^> what is the xorg file?
[03:41] <naelr> well I have loved KDE for 10 years.. but kubuntu has become my distro of choice since edgy
[03:41] <flaccid> naelr: kde runs fastest on kde :)
[03:41] <flaccid> err freebsd i mean
[03:41] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: u say ur mouse is a standard ms optical one?
[03:41] <genii> TyFuZ^^: Basically, video settings file.   man xorg.conf    for more
[03:42] <TyFuZ^^> yeah
[03:42] <naelr> haha
[03:42]  * naelr can't stand freebsd
[03:42]  * flaccid wonders why
[03:42] <naelr> dunno...
[03:42] <TyFuZ^^> standard MS optical
[03:42] <naelr> tried it and just couldn't stand it ... it grated one me.. kinda like vista does
[03:42] <flaccid> does the mouse work at all?
[03:42] <TyFuZ^^> yeah
[03:43] <flaccid> naelr: probably didn't know how to use it
[03:43] <TyFuZ^^> i've used it in windows
[03:43] <naelr> dunno never tried to use the mouse... was making a router with it
[03:43] <flaccid> freebsd are solid routers
[03:43] <naelr> oh haha yea I knew what I was doing .. it just had a weird turn and I didn't like it
[03:43] <naelr> runing pfsense now ...
[03:43]  * flaccid has no idea what a 'weird turn' is
[03:43] <dennister> flaccid: perhaps TyFuZ^^ should use this line to confugre mouse properly? sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:44] <flaccid> dennister: that is assuming that the xorg.conf is incorrect atm. i guess it wouldn't hurt..
[03:44] <naelr> just small things like the name of network devices...
[03:44] <flaccid> TyFuZ^^: what does dmesg say when you plug the mouse in
[03:45] <flaccid> naelr: yeah its better than linux in that respect
[03:45] <naelr> x10....
[03:45] <dennister> try it TyFuZ^^...u'll get a series of dialog boxes, read carefully thru series, esp. about mice
[03:45] <flaccid> linux logical names fail a lot, bios ones don't..
[03:45] <naelr> yea it just bothered me .... I dunno how to explain it ...
[03:45] <dennister> yes! dmesg usually is pretty accurate
[03:46] <flaccid> naelr: lol. so no real problem with freebsd :)
[03:46] <naelr> kinda like you know when you meet someone sometimes they just get on your nerves and they really arn't doing anything wrong... or are even a bad person.. they just rub you the wrong way... freebsd did that to me
[03:46] <naelr> no
[03:46] <naelr> the problem is me hahahaha
[03:46] <flaccid> yes lol!
[03:47] <TyFuZ^^> nothing
[03:47] <naelr> that was a few years ago .. I should prolly give it another chance... my router has never been better since I started using pfsense..
[03:47] <TyFuZ^^> it says nothing
[03:47] <naelr> used to be pure debian
[03:47] <flaccid> pfsense is freebsd...
[03:47] <naelr> yes I know
[03:47] <naelr> that is what I am saying
[03:47] <flaccid> sweet
[03:47] <naelr> it is .. alot sweeter then it used to be with pure debian..
[03:48] <flaccid> m0n0wall is your best appliance solution for router
[03:48] <naelr> isn't that what it uses...
[03:48] <naelr> or a slightly modified version
[03:48] <naelr> based on m0n0wall
[03:48] <flaccid> i didn't even know you could get it on debian
[03:48] <flaccid> its derived from m0n0wall
[03:48] <naelr> oh not on debian.. no I was using .. um shorewall
[03:48] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: u mean 'nothing' from dmesg?
[03:48] <flaccid> its just an extension to the pf packet filter..
[03:49] <flaccid> i use ipfw usually..
[03:49] <naelr> and traffic shaping wow does it work better in freebsd
[03:49] <flaccid> yeah
[03:49] <TyFuZ^^> what's dmesg?
[03:49] <xsacha> help, i installed kde4 packages on kubuntu gutsy and now my package manager is FUBAR: http://pastebin.ca/800128
[03:49] <TyFuZ^^> it says nothing when i insert the mouse
[03:49] <flaccid> TyFuZ^^: it prints the kernel ring buffer
[03:49] <xsacha> no matter what i do (even using -f) it says this
[03:50] <naelr> yea I had that happen once... it sucked...
[03:50] <naelr> ya know what I ended up doing
[03:50] <flaccid> TyFuZ^^: what does dmesg | grep -i mouse return ?
[03:50] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: just type 'dmesg <enter>' into a terminal
[03:50] <xsacha> naelr: reinstalling?
[03:50] <naelr> backing up my /home dir and reinstalling hahahahah
[03:50] <dennister> flaccid's better
[03:50] <xsacha> :(
[03:50] <TyFuZ^^> okey
[03:50] <naelr> yup.. I messed with it for days... they say anything is fixable but that one really got my goat
[03:51] <naelr> flaccid any ideas?
[03:51] <xsacha> well i want them to try and fix this :O looks pretty stuffed
[03:51] <flaccid> ideas on what
[03:51] <xsacha> reproducable every time: try to install kde4 packages
[03:52] <naelr> xsacha's pastbin
[03:52] <TyFuZ^^> i  tried the dmesg command
[03:52] <TyFuZ^^> and a lot of shit showed up
[03:52] <naelr> genii: no go on the update
[03:52] <xsacha> naelr: huh? i did
[03:52] <flaccid> TyFuZ^^: please pastebin
[03:52] <flaccid> and also pastebin lsusb please
[03:52] <xsacha> oh
[03:52] <naelr> no I was telling flaccid about it
[03:53] <TyFuZ^^> well i dont have mirc on that com
[03:53] <TyFuZ^^> comp
[03:53] <genii> naelr: Damn
[03:53] <TyFuZ^^> i'm using 2computers
[03:53] <flaccid> ah well
[03:53] <xsacha> TyFuZ^^: mirc for what?
[03:53] <naelr> genii: yea I was really hoping after fiesty updated and everything
[03:54] <TyFuZ^^> on my kubuntu computer
[03:54] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: do u know what pastebin-ning something is? u don't need mirc for it
[03:54] <xsacha> you dont need mirc, period
[03:54] <dennister> !pastebin
[03:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:54] <genii> naelr: Well, I guess you're on 7.04 then for a bit
[03:54] <naelr> genii: haha now I hafta reload it again ...
[03:54] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: go to that link, and paste what konsole told you after you did the dmesg | grep line
[03:55] <dennister> then come back in here and give us the url for your pastebin
[03:55] <naelr> that hasta be something simple in the kernel... this is crazy
[03:55] <TyFuZ^^> okey i will if i can start the internet explorer thing
[03:55] <xsacha> huh? is this windows?
[03:55] <dennister> just click the link ^^ in here
[03:56] <genii> naelr: Likely some small stupid thing we'll discover the fix for when it's too late
[03:56] <dennister> clicking the link should open up the browser at the correct place
[03:56] <TyFuZ^^> well i dont have kubuntu on this comp
[03:56] <naelr> genii: haha yea like in the next release
[03:56] <TyFuZ^^> it's on my other
[03:56] <TyFuZ^^> comp
[03:56] <xsacha> TyFuZ^^: why arent you on your other comp then?
[03:56] <xsacha> the one with the problem
[03:56] <TyFuZ^^> i cant do anything on it
[03:56] <TyFuZ^^> since i cant use the mouse
[03:57] <xsacha> keyboard? mm
[03:57] <TyFuZ^^> well i cant really tab so good
[03:57] <naelr> genii: update... it will boot on the 20-16 kernel in gutsy !!!!
[03:57] <naelr> but not the 22-whatever
[03:58] <naelr> interesting
[03:58] <genii> hmm
[03:58] <genii> 22-14
[03:58] <naelr> 2.6.22-14.... weird
[03:59] <naelr> yea
[03:59] <naelr> hey my new laptop is in linux ... I couldn't be more happier ...
[03:59] <TyFuZ^^> need to find a network cabel for the other
[03:59] <TyFuZ^^> comp
[03:59] <naelr> I can deal with 20-16 hahahah whooooot MY NEW LAPTOP IS FINALLY IN LINUX!!!!!
[03:59] <naelr> now to the wireless and soudn hahahahahahahaha
[04:00] <xsacha> whats wrong with 2.6.24? mmm
[04:00] <genii> naelr: Might be something related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/152820
[04:00] <naelr> reading
[04:03] <naelr> genii: very simular guess I will just hafta wait...
[04:03] <naelr> now my only problem is that it is ubuntu and not kubuntu hahahahahah gotta install kde
[04:03] <naelr> @#$^#$^
[04:04] <xsacha> :P
[04:05] <kirtan007> How can i start Karamba at Start up ?
[04:05] <genii> naelr: Hmm. I am wondering if your fstab has /dev/   mounts or uuid mounts
[04:05] <naelr> genii: UUID
[04:06] <naelr> geeze I hate gnome
[04:06] <genii> naelr: Ah. Couldn't be the hda vs sda thing then mentioned there then since uuid
[04:06] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: xsacha and others won't be able to help u much unless ur on the comp with kubuntu on it...try to use the keyboard to get into konsole/terminal and this irc channel
[04:07] <naelr> genii: yea I thought the same thing too... I guess UUID is better though..
[04:08] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: most of the graphical apps can be started from terminal
[04:08] <TyFuZ^^> okey
[04:08] <naelr> TyFuZ^^: if you can get to the internet do a sudo apt-get install bitchx
[04:08] <naelr> bitchx is a terminal irc chatter
[04:08] <TyFuZ^^> okey
[04:08] <naelr> !bitchx
[04:08] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:08] <naelr> !scrollz
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrollz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <naelr> scrollz used to be good too
[04:09] <xsacha> naelr: i like irssi best :)
[04:09] <naelr> ooo never heard of that one ... will hafta check it out
[04:09] <xsacha> really?
[04:09] <davidrawson> WOW! FL Studio Has Surprisingly High Compatability With Wine!!!!
[04:10] <naelr> can anyone suggest a package that might get my atheros wireless card
[04:10] <naelr> nope never heard of it
[04:10] <xsacha> davidrawson: wouldnt be surprised. crysis and hellgate: london run on wine even
[04:12] <zhopoyeb> anyone using gutsy around?
[04:12] <maduser> yeah
[04:12] <maduser> why?
[04:12] <TyFuZ^^> it couldnt get bitch x
[04:13] <naelr> sudo apt-get install bitchx
[04:13] <zhopoyeb> how can i change the default media player ( kaffeine ) to something else?
[04:13] <maduser> ummm
[04:13] <naelr> no space
[04:13] <zhopoyeb> i want to change it to kmplayer
[04:13] <davidrawson> Wonder if macromedia flash cs3 will work on wine :/
[04:14] <naelr> zhopoyeb: right click on the media you want to open
[04:14] <naelr> go to properties
[04:14] <naelr> click the little wrench next to the type line
[04:15] <davidrawson> FL Studio's faster on wine than it is on windows itself!
[04:15] <naelr> move the app you want up.. in the application preference order
[04:15] <flaccid> yeah because its not windows lol
[04:15] <maduser> yeah
[04:15] <flaccid> a real OS
[04:15] <naelr> zhopoyeb: did ya get all that?
[04:16] <zhopoyeb> naelr yeah thanks man
[04:16] <naelr> there is a more central place to do it for all application types but I just do one at a time like taht
[04:16] <davidrawson> Linux beat windows at it's own game.
[04:16] <zhopoyeb> naelr kaffeine just isn't what it use to be, =(
[04:17] <maduser> or has it?
[04:17] <naelr> zhopoyeb haha
[04:17] <TyFuZ^^> done
[04:17] <davidrawson> I'm going to take wine up to the next level with Flash CS3....
[04:17] <TyFuZ^^> i've pasted it onto pastebin
[04:17] <dennister> davidrawson: that's because 75% of ur system's memory is wasted by winblows
[04:17] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: what's the url of ur pastebin?
[04:17] <maduser> !pastebin
[04:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:17] <BluesKaj> naelr, I think that may be a global commnd
[04:18] <TyFuZ^^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46064
[04:18] <zhopoyeb> davidrawson I was reading up on some forums today about installing adobe cs3 and all the threads said it didn't install right
[04:18] <davidrawson> I seen that using windows, dennister.....windows sacrafices performance for....nothing
[04:18] <TyFuZ^^> i pasted both lsusb and dmesg
[04:18] <zhopoyeb> davidrawson with wine that is
[04:18] <naelr> BluesKaj: it is global but there used to be somewhere you can pick all your different file type and pick their apps
[04:19] <davidrawson> I could also try VirtualBox if it doesnt work....
[04:19] <davidrawson> I heard of this "crossover" too...
[04:20] <zhopoyeb> crossover will do the job, but its going to cost you
[04:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, konq I think, naelr
[04:20] <davidrawson> money?
[04:20] <TyFuZ^^> found anything?
[04:20] <zhopoyeb> crossover yea it cost money
[04:20] <davidrawson> I didn't think anything for linux would cost money,,,
[04:20] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: well now u know how to pastebin...congrats :)
[04:20] <TyFuZ^^> haha xD
[04:20] <TyFuZ^^> it's hard when i use 2 comps xD
[04:21] <naelr> I dunno maybe it isn't installed by defalut in kubuntu...
[04:21] <TyFuZ^^> i had to memorize the entire url xD
[04:21] <zhopoyeb> http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/
[04:21] <davidrawson> What is JScript?
[04:21] <zhopoyeb> rather pricey
[04:21] <davidrawson> Javascript?
[04:22] <dennister> now we need to do another pastebin with just terminal's results from: dmesg | grep -i mouse...u shouldn't have to memorize anything
[04:22] <Zombocom> sorry to bother everyone
[04:22] <Zombocom> what's the command to reconfigre the X server...
[04:22] <Zombocom> I need it... again...
[04:22] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: u should be able to start firefox from terminal by just typing in 'firefox'
[04:22] <davidrawson> Gonna virtualize Vista in VirtualBox....
[04:23] <Zombocom> davidrawson: tell me how that works out, I'm interested
[04:23] <naelr> ok any suggestions to getting my atheros wireless working
[04:23] <davidrawson> when a driver is installed, do I have to restart the entire system or just log out and log back in
[04:23] <dennister> Zombocom: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:23] <zhopoyeb> davidrawson good luck, Vista is already dead slow, can't imagine it in a virtual mode
[04:23] <Zombocom> thank you dennister!
[04:23] <davidrawson> It **Might** work
[04:24] <davidrawson> Or XP sounds more realistic
[04:24] <zhopoyeb> xp will be fine
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Zombocom, do yourself a favour and make a desktop textfile with commands pasted in it so you can copy and paste them into the required shell or texteditor when needed
[04:24] <dennister> xp's better than vista! some drm but not as much
[04:24] <Zombocom> wait dennister why the -phigh
[04:25] <zhopoyeb> but i dual boot because as much as i hate to admit it, I need windows to game
[04:25] <davidrawson> Vista's okay when it's installed...and nothing else.....
[04:25] <Zombocom> BluesKaj: I do, but I can't open the file in a terminal because it includes spaces
[04:25] <BluesKaj> Zombocom, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <dennister> Zombocom: have no idea...that's just what /etc/X11/xorg.conf file says to do
[04:25]  * naelr reluctently agrees with zhopoyeb
[04:25] <davidrawson> I dualboot too, windows for non-wine compatable programs, linux for everything else....even linux for windows!
[04:26] <dennister> zhopoyeb: i now only need winblows to do my taxes once a year
[04:26]  * zhopoyeb naelr =)
[04:26] <hydrogen> virtualbox++
[04:26] <dennister> and as a backup to watch tv when my linux installations aren't working properly
[04:26] <TyFuZ^^> new one dennister http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46065
[04:26] <dennister> like now :(
[04:27] <Zombocom> why does xorg tell me to write it sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:27] <Zombocom> what is -phigh?
[04:27] <davidrawson> Windows is okay once you......spend hours configuring it.....and after a month....having to reinstall windows due to it's slowing for no reason....stupid system restore takes up so much disk space........windows is BI-POLAR
[04:28] <Zombocom> !virtualbox
[04:28] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[04:28] <davidrawson> !apache
[04:28] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:28] <Zombocom> !fann
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fann - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Zombocom> whaat?
[04:28] <davidrawson> !jew
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: ok, it seems like u don't have the intellieye mouse installed for some reason
[04:28] <Zombocom> !armagetron
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about armagetron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Zombocom> !canorous
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canorous - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <Zombocom> !noteedit
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noteedit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <TyFuZ^^> then what should i do?
[04:28] <davidrawson> !having a real life
[04:28] <zhopoyeb> I strip Windows to the bare minimum, Slap AVG,Pidgin,Steam And firefox and call it a day
[04:28] <Zombocom> !killing david rawson
[04:29] <Silouck> kubuntu uses lzma or bz2 for man files?
[04:29] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: on the kubuntu comp, in terminal, type in: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:29] <BluesKaj> !phigh
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phigh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <Zombocom> !david_rawson's_sexuality
[04:29] <Zombocom> !sexuality_of_david_rawson
[04:29] <davidrawson> Zombocom! Be nice!
[04:29] <Zombocom> blasT!
[04:29] <dennister> you'll get a series of dialog boxes, just read carefully, choose the defaults most of the time, and pay particular attention to the mouse inputs
[04:29] <Zombocom> he won't say
[04:30] <BluesKaj> anyway, time for the sack ...nite folks
[04:30] <Zombocom> I'm doing this because the Xserver won't start
[04:30] <Zombocom> because I set up kubuntu for dual monitors according to the settings
[04:30] <Silouck> kubuntu uses lzma or bz2 for man files?
[04:30] <TyFuZ^^> it says that it has to be runned as root
[04:31] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: did u get that? ^^ what u need is the IntelliEye mouse installed...yes, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:33] <coteyr> flaccid; you aroubd
[04:33] <TyFuZ^^> this is what it says dennister http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46066
[04:34] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: that's fine...it's giving you a backup of the working file u have, cause you'll be creating a new one
[04:34] <TyFuZ^^> okey but there is nothing else :S
[04:35] <TyFuZ^^> that's the only thing that came up :O
[04:35] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: u didn't get the dialog boxes in terminal?
[04:35] <TyFuZ^^> nope :O
[04:36] <Zombocom> is there a way to play music from the kernel?
[04:36] <davidrawson> VirtualBox doesn't want to start up......
[04:36] <Zombocom> !mp4
[04:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:36] <Zombocom> !mp3
[04:36] <TyFuZ^^> after the thing you read there is only two lines with my name on it :S
[04:36] <davidrawson> !mp2
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Zombocom> !god
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <davidrawson> !mp1
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <TyFuZ^^> or my computers name
[04:36] <Zombocom> !mp5k
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp5k - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <davidrawson> !mp0
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <Zombocom> !aug
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <xsacha> does anyone know how to extract one file from a package?
[04:37] <Zombocom> !sda1
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sda1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <davidrawson> .mdk2
[04:37] <davidrawson> !mdk2
[04:37] <Zombocom> !MDK
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdk2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: hmmm...
[04:37] <TyFuZ^^> !stopplayingaround?
[04:37] <Zombocom> you have a lower ping than I do apparently
[04:37] <Zombocom> !why
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <davidrawson> !myself
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Zombocom> ok ok
[04:37] <xsacha> !ops
[04:37] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[04:37] <Zombocom> we need to stop spamming the channel
[04:37] <davidrawson> !murder
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about murder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <TyFuZ^^> hmm..
[04:38] <TyFuZ^^> what should i do :S
[04:38] <Zombocom> where is the channel in which we can mess with the bot without pissing everyone off
[04:38] <Zombocom> !hero
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Zombocom> !kick
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Zombocom> !NBC
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nbc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Zombocom> !fox_news
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fox_news - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <vorian> Zombocom: stop
[04:38] <Zombocom> okok
[04:38] <davidrawson> !niggers
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about niggers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <xsacha> You can send Private Messages to bots!
[04:38] <Zombocom> oh yeah
[04:38] <vorian> arg!
[04:39] <Zombocom> vorian you weren't using proper syntax
[04:39] <Zombocom> it's !arg
[04:39] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: ok, just do this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <dennister> that got the dialog boxes for me
[04:39] <davidrawson> what can I use to mount ISO's?
[04:39] <vorian> !ops (Zombocom & davidrawson)
[04:40] <TyFuZ^^> now something poped-up
[04:40] <Zombocom> 
[04:40] <davidrawson> does that mean we can be ops?
[04:40] <TyFuZ^^> though it's in swedish for me :O
[04:40] <TyFuZ^^> i'll read it
[04:40] <kloeri> Zombocom, davidrawson: please don't abuse the bot
[04:41] <davidrawson> But the bot has no feelings
[04:41] <Zombocom> I've stopped
[04:41] <Zombocom> sorry
[04:41] <kloeri> thanks
[04:41] <nalioth> Zombocom: please don't abuse the bot
[04:41] <TyFuZ^^> hmm.. it's something about the graphics driver
[04:42] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: yes, and it will go through lots of hardware questions b4 getting to the mouse part
[04:42] <TyFuZ^^> like if i want it to find the drivers automaticly or if i want to specify
[04:42] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: what kind of graphics card do u have?
[04:42] <TyFuZ^^> shall i pick the yes button on until i come to the mouse config?
[04:43] <TyFuZ^^> I have a Ati Radeon 9700 Pro 128Mb
[04:43] <TyFuZ^^> or should i choose no?
[04:43] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: ok, open up another terminal window and type in: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:44] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: u will find lots of info on your graphics card there in that file, and use as ur guide for the dialog boxes
[04:45] <TyFuZ^^> okey :P
[04:45] <TyFuZ^^> so i should pick the manual install istead of the automatic search?
[04:46] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: no, u can try the automatic...what does the dialog box give u as the default graphics driver?
[04:47] <dennister> mine gave me 'vesa' but i just used the arrow buttons to scroll up to the nvidia, cause that's what i have...u should get an ati option
[04:48] <xsacha> hey, the kde4 packages for kubuntu do not include the 'startkde' script to actually.. run it
[04:48] <TyFuZ^^> ati
[04:49] <TyFuZ^^> it found ati for me
[04:49] <dennister> see :)
[04:49] <TyFuZ^^> now i'm at the mouse
[04:49] <TyFuZ^^> it asks which port it should use
[04:49] <dennister> keep going...it'll be a little while b4 u get to the Mouse port dialog
[04:49] <TyFuZ^^> I'm at that place
[04:50] <TyFuZ^^> it asks which mouse port i should use
[04:50] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: ok, 'dev/input/mice should be fine
[04:51] <TyFuZ^^> and then?
[04:51] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: ImPs/2
[04:51] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: then Emulate 3 button mouse? choose yes
[04:51] <TyFuZ^^> okey ^^
[04:52] <TyFuZ^^> then it asks Write down standard something to the file or something
[04:52] <dennister> then just keep going to what sounds logical...until ur done, and then restart x by going Ctrl+alt-backspace
[04:53] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: hold on a sec, i'm not there yet
[04:54] <TyFuZ^^> oopse :O
[04:54] <TyFuZ^^> i'm done and did restart
[04:54] <naelr> what is command to move to runlevel 3 and stop X
[04:54] <dennister> ok, restarted x, too with the ctrl-alt-backspace?
[04:55] <naelr> I need to install nvidia drivers.. how do I just stop X
[04:55] <TyFuZ^^> yeah :P
[04:55] <TyFuZ^^> it works now :D
[04:55] <dennister> congrats!
[04:55] <TyFuZ^^> THANK YOU SO FREAKING MUCH dennister :D
[04:56] <TyFuZ^^> i've been waiting to be able to use kubuntu for sometime now :D
[04:56] <dennister> see? it was the pastebin of the dmesg line that told me the wrong mouse had been installed
[04:56] <TyFuZ^^> yeah ;)
[04:57] <TyFuZ^^> Well i'm just a beginner cant blame me for trying xD
[04:57] <dennister> dmesg is very good at diagnosing what the probs are
[04:57] <TyFuZ^^> okey
[04:57] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: no blame at all!
[04:57] <naelr> how does I stop X
[04:57] <TyFuZ^^> Haha :P
[04:57] <dennister> that's what this channel is for: for newbie's to get help
[04:57] <naelr> I cannot remember
[04:57] <dennister> and that's not a common problem either
[04:58] <dennister> now i have to restart x to make sure i haven't screwed up my x :P
[04:58]  * genii ponders /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:59] <naelr> no...
[04:59] <naelr> init 3
[04:59] <Tm_T> !guidelines | Zombocom
[04:59] <ubotu> Zombocom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:59] <naelr> I got it
[04:59] <genii> naelr: Ah right. telinit 2 etc etc
[04:59] <genii> (2-5 same on *buntus)
[05:00] <TyFuZ^^> yeah well tnx anyways :D
[05:00] <dennister> np, and welcome to kubuntu!
[05:00] <naelr> well it isnt working
[05:00] <dennister> bbs
[05:01] <naelr> it keeps restarting
[05:02] <dennister> k, back and all is well :)
[05:02] <sparr> i give out kubuntu CDs for christmas.  last year i had to make my own jewel inserts with explanations and such.  anyone out there doing anything like that this year for people to copy?
[05:03] <epl> Hello
[05:03] <naelr> I gots it
[05:03] <dennister> sparr: yes actually...someone from ubuntutoronto was doing that
[05:04] <dennister> he had a 2-page insert of directions...i believe when i edited it it went to 3 pages, and madpilot from bc was doing some great graphics
[05:04] <sparr> awesome...  link?
[05:04] <dennister> of course, the graphics were canada-specific
[05:05] <sparr> meh
[05:05] <dennister> sparr: that's the rub...i don't have a link itself...hmmm
[05:05] <sparr> latency is killing my web browsing
[05:05] <sparr> i need to get a new ISP
[05:05]  * sparr prays for a paycheck
[05:06] <dennister> sparr: where r u located?
[05:06] <sparr> tennessee, usa
[05:08] <^kaminix> How do I open a .zix file?
[05:08] <dennister> sparr: can't help u with the isp part then, but go to htty://www.ubuntutoronto.org -->Projects --> New to Ubuntu Handbook and you'll find the project leader
[05:09] <dennister> u can email Kim for the jewel case insert
[05:09] <TyFuZ^^> problem nr 2
[05:09] <dennister> heheh...thought u'd be back TyFuZ^^ :)
[05:09] <TyFuZ^^> how do i get my kubuntu computer into the same network as my windows computer?
[05:10] <naelr> geeze I forgot how I hated this part
[05:10] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: with something called samba-server...which version of windows is on the network?
[05:10] <TyFuZ^^> Windows XP
[05:10] <dennister>  pro or home?
[05:10] <naelr> wow Dennister.. your getting a workout tonight :p
[05:11] <TyFuZ^^> pro
[05:11] <dennister> naelr: not me, hon...i'm usually somebody getting help, not giving it
[05:11] <dennister> and is it a home network? or business? how many pc's?
[05:12] <TyFuZ^^> it's a home network with 4-5computers
[05:12] <dennister> ok, good, you probably don't want a high level of security then...a simple share will work
[05:12] <TyFuZ^^> nah :P
[05:13] <TyFuZ^^> yeah :P
[05:13] <TyFuZ^^> just so i can access my Windows Computer and move all my music to the kubuntu one
[05:13] <dennister> k: sudo apt-get install samba-server (i think)
[05:15] <TyFuZ^^> cant find the package samba-server
[05:15] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: no, sorry
[05:15] <dennister> sudo apt-get install samba samba-doc
[05:16] <dennister> they changed the name on me...it's been a little while since i had need for samba
[05:16] <TyFuZ^^> hmm :O
[05:16] <TyFuZ^^> it says there is no Samba-doc but samba-common
[05:17] <dennister> no samba-doc? it's right here in my adept
[05:17] <dennister> yes, u will need samba-common, it'll get pulled in by 'samba' itself
[05:18] <yogich> Just upgraded from Gutsy --> Hardy, and now the sudo will not work. Nor will 'Admin Mode' in Control Ctr. What do I check?
[05:18] <dennister> but because i am very rusty on samba, i should hand u over to a more senior helper...samba-doc isn't absolutely necessary
[05:18] <Dr_willis> samba-doc package/docs are worth reading however. :P
[05:18] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[05:18] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 6816 kB, installed size 14752 kB
[05:18] <TyFuZ^^> haha xD
[05:19] <TyFuZ^^> i kinda solved it xd
[05:19] <Tm_T> yogich: Hardy is not supported, period
[05:19] <dennister> TyFuZ^^: and Dr_willis is just the 'more senior helper' u need :)
[05:19] <yogich> Really!!??
[05:19] <TyFuZ^^> Well i solved it ;)
[05:19] <jughead> how can I change the default application in Dolphin?  I'd like vids to open with VLC not Kaffeine
[05:19] <yogich> That's interesting...
[05:20] <naelr> stupid kernel-devel
[05:20] <dennister> solved what?
[05:20] <dennister> did u capitalize Samba-doc? tsk tsk! linux is case-sensitive...
[05:21] <TyFuZ^^> nah xD
[05:21] <TyFuZ^^> i went into the systemsettings and configured it from there xD
[05:21] <dennister> and you now have access to ur windows network?
[05:21] <TyFuZ^^> Yeap :P
[05:21] <dennister> great!
[05:22] <dennister> like i said, it's been a coupla distributions ago since i've needed samba, and they keep making it easier...samba with xp home is a bi*ch
[05:23] <^kaminix> I get an "unable to register file bla bla" with a wine program, how do I fix it? :(
[05:23] <TyFuZ^^> aha :O
[05:23] <dennister> pretty soon you'll have your linux box all tricked out with everything u need
[05:24] <^kaminix> err:seh:raise_exception Unhandled exception code c0000005 flags 0 addr 0x7e5037b5  <-- Means what?
[05:24] <dennister> it's actually time for me to go to bed...night all
[05:24] <TyFuZ^^> Night ynight dennister and thanx for the help :D
[05:25] <dennister> no probs TyFuZ^^; remember, this is the whole purpose of the channel: for new users (and old hands) to get support
[05:25] <TyFuZ^^> Hehe :P
[05:30] <naelr> well got the graphics driver up and running.. still can't get wifi or my sound...
[05:38] <morphine> So I have a machine that needs restricted drivers installed on it, but can;t be connected to the internet until that gets installed
[05:39] <morphine> What do I need to download and copy over to it?
[05:39] <sparr> i would suggest the restricted modules package, plus all its dependencies
[05:39] <sparr> and maybe all their dependencies too
[05:40] <morphine> gah
[05:40] <morphine> Can I install it from the CD?
[05:40] <morphine> Isn't there a way to use the install CD as a repo?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> restricted drivers are not included on the cd..
[05:41] <Dr_willis> at least i dont think they are.
[05:41] <morphine> I think I need the madwifi drivers, and as I understand it that is part of the restricted drivers
[05:42] <morphine> But until the upgrade to gutsy, wifi always just worked
[05:48] <Dr_willis> theres some apt tools to grab packages  to aloow them to move over.. but i never use them
[05:48] <Dr_willis> I just use a long network cable. :)
[05:53] <crazy_bus> is there a backport to gutsy for the intel X.org 2.2.0 driver?
[05:55] <naelr> well morphine my wifi never worked fiesty or gutsy :(
[05:56] <cayetano1> good morning
[05:57] <cayetano1> how can i repair my graphik-modus on suse 10.2?
[05:59] <bazhang> cayetano1: best ask in #suse
[05:59] <cayetano1> thx, i thought i was there, sry
[06:00] <hydrogen> heh :)
[06:00] <bazhang> no biggie
[06:00] <Pollywog> anyone know why the first snapshot I took in virtualbox has software installed only yesterday?
[06:01] <Pollywog> vmware does not do that
[06:01] <Pollywog> a snapshot in vmware is actually a snapshot
[06:01] <Pollywog> it does not change
[06:01] <bazhang> is there a #vbox?
[06:06] <surgy> hi
[06:06] <surgy> i need a good, but stealthy keylogger preferably native to linux, kubuntu in particular, any ideas?
[06:07] <xsacha> surgy: xev
[06:07] <bazhang> surgy: what for?
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> you're either a) suspicious of your significant other, or b) curious what the kids do on the pc
[06:07] <surgy> bazhang: i have a few friends who like to come over and screw with my pc while im at work, i wanna keep an eye on them
[06:07] <xsacha> xeyes
[06:07] <surgy> xsacha: ? link?
[06:07] <bazhang> surgy: haha--good reason :}
[06:08] <xsacha> surgy: just run it
[06:08] <Daisuke_Ido> either one involves intimate relations with a member of the opposite sex, and you're using linux, so...  THAT can't be it </snarky comment on linux user stereotype>
[06:08] <surgy> lhhhh!xev
[06:08] <bazhang> xeyes is just a pair of eyes on the desktop :}
[06:08] <surgy> !xev
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <xsacha> surgy: just alt+f2 and then run it
[06:08] <xsacha> xeyes
[06:08] <bazhang> !info xeyes
[06:08] <ubotu> xeyes: X client - xeyes. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:09] <surgy> xsacha: su command is ./xeyes?
[06:09] <xsacha> surgy: just "xeyes"
[06:09] <xsacha> nothing else, it's that easy
[06:09] <surgy> xsacha: what is it? im not too keen on running unknown commands
[06:09] <xsacha> you dont need su
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> !xeyes
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xeyes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a pair of eyes
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> literally
[06:09] <surgy> oh
[06:09] <Daisuke_Ido> that follow the mouse movement
[06:09] <bazhang> just a joke surgy
[06:09] <surgy> not quite a keylogger?
[06:10] <surgy> lol
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> not even close
[06:10] <bazhang> !info xev
[06:10] <ubotu> xev: X client - xev. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 68 kB
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> xev is what you're wanting on that
[06:10] <blankboy> how do i downgrade a package with out delete half my packages? i know the old version will work fine
[06:10] <xsacha> xev is a keylogger.. but not quite what he wants... Daisuke_Ido he wants to spy on people who use his comp
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...
[06:11] <surgy> so?
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[06:11] <surgy> whats a good app?
[06:11] <Tm_T> why spying?
[06:11] <Tm_T> can't you just lock it
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> a good one would be "change your password and lock your session"
[06:11] <Tm_T> yup
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> that way they can't touch it
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and you don't have to worry about it
[06:12] <surgy> yeah, but thats besides the point
[06:12] <surgy> i want to see what the apeal of using my computer is by logging what the do
[06:13] <xsacha> Daisuke_Ido: i think he wants them to use the computer but he wants to see what porn they look up
[06:13] <xsacha> what they do on computer yeah
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds about right
[06:13] <surgy> yerp
[06:14] <surgy> exactly what i want
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  ask.
[06:14] <surgy> so any ideas?
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> i smell honeypot
[06:15] <Daisuke_Ido> i actually don't know of any that would do what you're wanting
[06:15] <blankboy> copy his bookmarks ?
[06:15] <surgy> !lkl
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lkl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <xsacha> do you just want web history? cause you can just save all of that you know
[06:15] <surgy> well i saw sometyhing called "lkl" or linux key logger but all the download links are busted, even the ones for rpm packages
[06:16] <surgy> no i want full access key logging
[06:16] <surgy> every event captured should be logged, and saved to a txt file
[06:16] <hydrogen> ehh
[06:16] <hydrogen> have fun writing a kernel driver for that!
[06:17]  * hydrogen isn't touching it
[06:17] <xsacha> if you edited xinput source, im sure you can manage that in an hour or so surgy
[06:17] <surgy> :)
[06:20] <surgy> kewl the lkl link worked :)
[07:23] <row> how do I get compiz to start with kde, at the moment I need to start compize via command line.
[07:23]  * row has installed compiz-kde
[07:23] <row> compiz*
[07:34] <row> got it starting now
[07:34] <momal> Hey i have this strange problem. My dvd burner reads dvd/cds fine and the autoplay thing comes up but when i burn a dvd with it then its finished any dvd i put in the autoplay doesn't come up and it doesn't mount it until i reboot. Then it happens again after i burn another one. any ideas what the problem might be?
[07:37] <goodhabit> Hello. I have not-working manager for proprietary drivers. Maybe someone can advice me?
[07:37] <flaccid> install restricted-manager
[07:37] <jessy_james> buona giornata a tutti
[07:37] <sigma> does anyone have a prebuilt deb package for quasar accounting?
[07:38] <bazhang> !it | jessy_james
[07:38] <ubotu> jessy_james: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:38] <goodhabit> flaccid: Not intalled by default? But I can see the icon.
[07:40] <flaccid> yeah
[07:40] <flaccid> depends on release
[07:40] <flaccid> i gtg sorry
[07:49] <goodhabit> I have installed it, but seems to still doesn't works.
[07:55] <bimbodeoro2001> hi
[07:55] <bimbodeoro2001> ciao
[08:06] <kraut> moin
[08:18] <posingaspopular> how do i exit a man page in terminal?
[08:24] <Perseid> OK. Upgraded to gutsy and now the NVidia drivers don't work. "API mismatch: NVidia driver component has version 100.14.19 but nvidia kernel module version does not match."
[08:24] <posingaspopular> ah 'q' it is
[08:24] <spiroo> Is there any chat to discuss kde?
[08:24] <spiroo> *channel
[08:25] <posingaspopular> #kde of course
[08:25] <posingaspopular> ;p
[08:25] <spiroo> is it okay do discuss about it there, or do you have to have a question?
[08:32] <posingaspopular> ask away spiroo
[08:32] <corinth> I have a couple of questions tonight:
[08:33] <corinth> First, there are two icons for my external drive on my desktop. How can I fix this?
[08:35] <needhelp> Hi! I need your help. Iam collecting points in page listed below. If you be so kind, please click url below. http://www.3dwhite.lt/?click=56a3cdcf22ccc7ab5f0a7f4d2bc900ff
[08:37] <RockHound> good day ...
[08:38] <RockHound> I am struggling with a sudo issue here. I have added a second user to my machine with the same group membership as my installation added user. I can run sudo fine but kdesu just dies without executing or erroring out... is there a known solution for this?
[08:38] <RockHound> machine is gutsy btw
[08:39] <corinth> I installed ubuntu gutsy, and then kubuntu gutsy from apt-get. How can I get the default kubuntu logon screen?
[08:40] <RockHound> apt-get install kubuntu-default-artwork IIRC
[08:40] <corinth> RockHound: Will that enable it automatically? If not, how do I?
[08:41] <RockHound> it should
[08:41] <socketErr> there are any tools to manage the deb packages on a big server farm?
[08:42] <corinth> RockHound: Also, apt-get install kubuntu-default-artwork IIRC returns 'E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-default-artwork'
[08:42] <RockHound> corinth: hang on
[08:43] <RockHound> kubuntu-default-settings
[08:43] <RockHound> and IIRC mean "if I remember correctly"
[08:43] <RockHound> so don't include that in the command
[08:44] <corinth> RockHound: Haha, sorry. Thanks.
[08:44] <corinth> RockHound: It is already installed.
[08:45] <RockHound> hmmm
[08:46] <RockHound> corinth: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and select kdm
[08:48] <corinth> RockHound: Thanks, let me logout to test it.
[08:48] <RockHound> you need to restart the X server
[08:48] <RockHound> reboot would be best
[08:48] <RockHound> or easiest
[08:51] <ardchoille> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:51] <ardchoille> No need for a reboot
[08:59] <meta_> Hey. I need some help please with my wireless card. I installed the broadcom driver for Linux using the instructions on the Ubuntu website... But it seems to be very unreliable and I would like to install using ndiswrapper.
[08:59] <meta_> That isn't the problem.
[09:00] <meta_> I would like to know if I need to uninstall the native driver, and if so, how?
[09:00] <corinth> RockHound: Thanks, that did it.
[09:00] <corinth> Anyone know if there is a .deb for Firefox 3 Beta1 yet?
[09:02] <_4strO> corinth: yes there is one
[09:02] <meta_> Can anyone help me?
[09:02] <corinth> _4strO: WHere can I find it? I searched.
[09:02] <RockHound> corinth: personally, I don't recommend it
[09:02] <RockHound> ff 3b1
[09:02] <ardchoille> corinth: it's in the repos: apt-cache search --names-only firefox
[09:03] <meta_> I tested Firefox in PCLinuxOS. It crashed when loading Java.
[09:03] <meta_> Generally it is faster though.
[09:03] <meta_> Can anyone help me?!
[09:04] <meta_> :(]
[09:04] <_4strO> corinth: firefox-3.0 | 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 | http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[09:04] <corinth> _4strO: I saw that, I'm looking for the beta1, not the alpha8.
[09:05] <meta_> corinth: Manually compile it. It's really easy.
[09:05] <corinth> meta_: Thanks. I'm still a bit unsure about compiling things, but I'll give it a go.
[09:05] <_4strO> ha ok
[09:06] <meta_> http://www.aboutdebian.com/compile.htm
[09:07] <Teapot> Can someone help me now please?
[09:07] <corinth> Teapot: With what?
[09:07] <Teapot> corinth: I sent you a link to help. :D
[09:07] <corinth> Thanks ;-)
[09:07] <Teapot> Hey. I need some help please with my wireless card. I installed the broadcom driver for Linux using the instructions on the Ubuntu website... But it seems to be very unreliable and I would like to install using ndiswrapper.
[09:08] <Teapot> I would like to know if I need to uninstall the native driver, and if so, how?
[09:08] <Teapot> (Quotes of what I said earlier)
[09:09] <Teapot> To be fair, my problem isn't that the native driver doesn't work. It does, but only sometimes for some bizare reason.
[09:09] <Teapot> corinth: If you extract the zip file, open Konsole then type.
[09:10] <Teapot> cd <directory-of-extracted-files>
[09:10] <Teapot> ./configure && make && make install
[09:10] <Teapot> That should work.
[09:11] <corinth> Teapot: It says bashe: ./configure: No such file or directory
[09:11] <ardchoille> You'll need sudo for the make install
[09:11] <corinth> *bash
[09:12] <Teapot> ardchoille: Good point. I always forget that!
[09:12] <Teapot> corinth: If there's no ./configure then forget about configure and just do make && make install
[09:13] <corinth> Teapot: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[09:13] <ardchoille> corinth: What are you sompiling?
[09:13] <corinth> ardchoille: Firefox 3 beta 1
[09:14] <ardchoille> corinth: Are you in the directory of the sources?
[09:14] <corinth> ardchoille: The folder I extracted from the tar.bz2?
[09:14] <ardchoille> yes
[09:14] <Teapot> Yes.
[09:14] <corinth> Yes
[09:15] <Teapot> Better idea.
[09:15] <Teapot> Just to be sure, go to that directory in Konqueror and go Tools > Open Terminal.
[09:16] <ardchoille> corinth: Is it already compiled? ls firefox
[09:16] <corinth> ardchoille: I don't think so. I have firefox 2.0.10 installed.
[09:16] <Teapot> As for my idea, forget it. Lol. It appears that Kubuntu doesn't have that...
[09:16] <ThusLex> anyone know why i cant get internet on my ubuntu 7.04 wireless???
[09:16]  * ruessel is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[09:17] <Teapot> ThusLex: Wireless is the main Linux issue. What's your wireless card?
[09:17] <ThusLex> how do i check?
[09:17] <ardchoille> !away > ruessel[AFK]
[09:18] <Teapot> Hmmm... That I wouldn't know... I always use HardDrake in PCLinuxOS...
[09:18] <ThusLex> brb
[09:18] <Teapot> Are you using a wired connection for your laptop at the moment?
[09:20] <funcrush> what is difference compiz from beryl?
[09:20] <Tm_T> !beryl
[09:20] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[09:20] <Tm_T> !compiz
[09:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:21] <funcrush> thanks all
[09:21] <corinth> Hey, I figured it out.
[09:22] <corinth> No need to compile it, just launch the firefox.ss
[09:22] <Teapot> Really? Neat. It's like LimeWire... Just click runLime.sh
[09:22] <corinth> Teapot: Yep :-)
[09:23] <corinth> Now, on to my next issue.
[09:23] <corinth> Lol.
[09:23] <Teapot> Lmao.
[09:23] <Teapot> What's that?
[09:23] <corinth> Oh, I have issues ;-)
[09:23] <corinth> You see, I love Ubuntu, but I also love KDE.
[09:23] <corinth> Kubuntu seems the obvious choice, right?
[09:23] <Teapot> Indeed.
[09:23] <corinth> Well, it doesn't run as smoothly for me.
[09:24] <Tm_T> yes?
[09:24] <corinth> Let's see how many of my issues we can resolve, lol.
[09:24] <Teapot> Hmmm... Maybe you could try Ubuntu then type kubuntu --desktop into a terminal?
[09:24] <Teapot> Or not.
[09:24] <Teapot> Well, let's hear 'em. Lol.
[09:24] <corinth> Lol.
[09:24] <Tm_T> Teapot: erm, whattaa
[09:25] <Teapot> Tm_T: It's a trick to get Kubuntu from an Ubuntu install.
[09:25] <Teapot> Or, near enough anyway.
[09:25] <Tm_T> not even near
[09:25] <corinth> Yeah, I installed kubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:25] <Tm_T> yes
[09:26] <corinth> In Ubuntu, my volume + and - keys worked without configuration. In Kubuntu, volume + and - only toggles between 0% and 11%, without actually changing the volume.
[09:26] <Teapot> I shall show you.
[09:26] <Tm_T> Teapot: you what?
[09:26] <corinth> I tried to set my + and - volume keys as the shortcuts for volume up and down, but it didn't work.
[09:26] <Tm_T> corinth: it does change volume here
[09:27] <corinth> Tm_T: Hmm?
[09:27] <Teapot> Wait. Lol. This computer is rubbish. Hard drive damage and 256mb RAM leaves this computer nearly dead it's so slow.
[09:27] <funcrush> Can I get the web page for more information about compiz and beryl??
[09:27] <Tm_T> !compiz | funcrush
[09:27] <ubotu> funcrush: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:27] <funcrush> ubotu : thank you!!!
[09:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <Tm_T> corinth: you mean it doesn't affect at all?
[09:29] <corinth> Tm_T: yes
[09:29] <Tm_T> interesting
[09:29] <Tm_T> corinth: check kmix settings
[09:30] <Tm_T> corinth: so it is using a right device etc
[09:30] <corinth> Tm_t: If I set other keys as the volume shortcuts, it works. However, it doesn't show the graphical voule + and - bar.
[09:30] <Tm_T> interesting
[09:30] <Tm_T> volume shortcuts of what?
[09:30] <corinth> Hmm?
[09:30] <corinth> Oh, volume up, down, and mute.
[09:30] <Tm_T> yes, but what app
[09:31] <Teapot> I was wrong. I apologise. Close though. :D Lol.
[09:31] <Tm_T> Teapot: you can usually trust my word
[09:31] <corinth> Tm_T: Global shortcuts.
[09:31] <Tm_T> corinth: of what app
[09:32] <Teapot> I am a (K)ubuntu noob.
[09:32] <corinth> I'm not sure what you mean. KMix, maybe?
[09:32] <Tm_T> corinth: hmm, where did you set these settings?
[09:32] <Teapot> I'm normally a PCLinuxOS user.
[09:32] <Tm_T> Teapot: I'm not ;)
[09:33] <corinth> Tm_T: KMix - Settings - Configure Global Shortcuts
[09:33] <Tm_T> corinth: ah, that's Kmix then
[09:33] <Tm_T> corinth: interesting that it doesn't show OSD then
[09:34] <Teapot> Kde developer.... I'm in awwww....
[09:34] <corinth> Tm_T: Yeah, and that it won't work with my volume + and - keys. I'm figuring that some other volume setting in Kubuntu is using it, whatever uses the OSD. Maybe
[09:34] <Tm_T> corinth: hmmm, it sort of uses Kmix but not directly
[09:34] <Tm_T> corinth: so it should work rightaway, interesting
[09:35] <corinth> Tm_T: Yeah.
[09:36] <corinth> Oh well, on to the next issue.
[09:36] <corinth> KWin is nice, but I prefer compiz-fusion.
[09:36] <corinth> I have it installed and working, save one issue.
[09:36] <corinth> In ubuntu it works fine.
[09:36] <corinth> In Kubuntu, it multiplies the number of desktops I have x2 in the pager applet.
[09:37] <corinth> The second one, respectively, doesn't work when clicked on.
[09:40] <corinth> Nevermind about that, actually.
[09:42] <Teapot> Be back soon! Hopefully...
[09:42] <hangthedj> wow, #ubuntu is overwhealming
[09:46] <corinth> Global question:
[09:46] <corinth> What's your favorite window decoration for kwin?
[09:48] <hangthedj> whats yours
[09:48] <corinth> Out of the defaults, plastik.
[09:48] <corinth> I'm wondering if there is anything much better out there, though, Plastik is getting a bit old for me.
[09:48] <ardchoille> kwin-baghira
[09:52] <corinth> Looked at it, but I'm not really a fan of the os x look.
[09:52] <ardchoille> I seem to be the only one left, lol
[09:52] <corinth> Lol
[09:53] <Tm_T> corinth: B2
[09:54] <Tm_T> corinth: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[09:54] <Tm_T> I know, ugly, that's actually intended
[09:55] <corinth> What a coincidence, I downloaded that SW galaxy map today, lol.
[09:56] <Tm_T> :/
[09:56] <corinth> Lol.
[09:58] <bazhang> corinth: kbfx menu to replace kmenu and superkaramba and tons of addons
[09:59] <ThusLex> teapot u there?
[09:59] <corinth> bazhang: I use the kicker from suse 10.2/3 anyway.
[09:59] <momal> permission denied to scd0, permissions are set and i am in the cdrom usergroup. but still can't access media:/scd0 (running 7.10) after an automount from putting in the dvd.
[09:59] <corinth> bazhang: What is superkaramba, though?
[09:59] <bazhang> corinth: ah a kicker fan :}
[09:59] <momal> !superkaramba
[09:59] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[09:59] <corinth> bazhang: addicted :-)
[10:00] <corinth> Kind of like screenlets?
[10:00] <bazhang> corinth: you can check out at kde-look.org some of the superkaramba plugins/addons--it's available in the repos--err widgets I now recall
[10:01] <bazhang> corinth: and ubotu agrees it's good as well :}
[10:01] <corinth> Hehe
[10:02] <corinth> I searched for superkaramba in adept, nothing.
[10:03]  * Tm_T likes KDE without SK and other bloats
[10:03] <bazhang> corinth: I believe the apt-cache search turns it up
[10:04] <corinth> should apt-get install superkaramba work?
[10:04] <Tm_T> !superkaramba
[10:04] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[10:04] <bazhang> well, it is a bloat, but less troublesome than compiz :}
[10:04] <Tm_T> !info superkaramba
[10:04] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[10:04] <Tm_T> bazhang: I don't use compiz either
[10:04] <bazhang> corinth: that will do it
[10:05] <bazhang> Tm_T: I have to have a tiny bit of eye candy :}
[10:05] <row> What is the "super" button?
[10:05] <hangthedj> i think its just sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[10:05] <bazhang> row: windows
[10:05] <row> ah windows
[10:05] <row> I was right just pressing wrong combo
[10:05] <row> :P
[10:05] <Tm_T> bazhang: erm, I do have a lot actually
[10:05] <bazhang> Tm_T: conky, or other?
[10:06] <Tm_T> conky is one, but that's not the "candy" part
[10:06] <bazhang> ok
[10:07] <Tm_T> KDE itself has abilities to lots of good look, just fiddle about
[10:24] <corinth> How can I get my desktop launchers (home folder, external drive) to open in dolphin when launching them?
[10:26] <poison--> morning guys
[10:28] <corinth> Is it possible to scale superkaramba widgets?
[10:29] <SSJ_GZ> corinth: I don't think so, no, unless the applet was specifically written to allow it.
[10:29] <corinth> Gotcha, thanks.
[10:30] <SSJ_GZ> corinth: np :)
[10:31] <SatManUK> i have installed all the java updates on the computer afaik, and i have installed firefox java plugin 1.4 - but when i try to open a java site it still says the plugin is misiing - any suggestions?
[10:31] <SatManUK> how do i actually get firefox to detect its plug in.
[10:31] <corinth> Where is dolphin located in the file directory?
[10:32] <SatManUK> im removing it and reinstalling it to see if it fixes the problem
[10:33] <hangthedj> i had a huge problem with this, as my time sheet for work is all java, i decided to install ubuntu on my laptop instead of kubuntu (still run kubuntu on the desktop) and it worked fine.
[10:33] <hangthedj> not sure what the difference is
[10:35] <stdin> SatManUK: which java package did you install?
[10:35] <SatManUK> java 5 j
[10:35] <SatManUK> jre
[10:36] <SatManUK> and mozilla java plugin 1.4
[10:36] <SatManUK> java works on konqueror but it doesn't display my java upload script properly
[10:36] <SatManUK> it can't view the contents of a directory
[10:36] <poison--> !compiz
[10:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:36] <stdin> SatManUK: you'll probably have better luck with "sun-java6-plugin"
[10:37] <corinth> I can't get kaffeine to play my dvd movie.
[10:39] <SatManUK> thanks for that.. working now cheers stdin
[10:39] <stdin> SatManUK: no problem :)
[10:40] <poison--> corinth, did u instaled the codecs?
[10:40] <stdin> corinth: have you installed libdvdread3, libdvdnav4 and libdvdcss2 ?
[10:40] <poison--> beated u stdin :D
[10:41] <stdin> poison--: but I gave the package names ;)
[10:41] <poison--> true, true
[10:41] <poison--> eheheh
[10:41] <corinth> stdin: yes, yes, and yes.
[10:41] <stdin> so what does kaffeine say when you try to play it ?
[10:42] <poison--> corinth, try to change the engine of kaffeine to opengl
[10:42] <poison--> i had the same issue, i ended installing kmplayer and mplayer, and all got fixed
[10:42] <corinth> poison: It only has kaffeine-xine
[10:43] <poison--> think kmplayer lets u change to opengl tho
[10:43] <corinth> stdin: It doesn't say anything, it just freezes.
[10:44] <poison--> humm, dats not a codec issue than
[10:44] <poison--> corinth, can u try MPlayer?
[10:45] <corinth> poison: let me try
[10:48] <ThusLex> hello?
[10:49] <hangthedj> !hi
[10:49] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:49] <ThusLex> someone must know how to get my ubuntu 7.04 to work with wireless internet on my laptop????
[10:50] <Tm_T> !wifi | ThusLex
[10:50] <ubotu> ThusLex: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:51] <ThusLex> how do i find out my wireless card?
[10:51] <Tm_T> lspci in konsole
[10:51] <hangthedj> you should be able to do something like lspci|grep wireless
[10:51] <Tm_T> aye
[10:52] <hangthedj> ahh
[10:52] <hangthedj> lspci|grep ethernet
[10:52] <hangthedj> and look for the 802
[10:53] <ThusLex> but in windows how do i do it?
[10:53] <corinth> Sorry, who was I just talking to about Kaffeine crashing with my DVDs?
[10:53] <hangthedj> ipconfig /all
[10:53] <ThusLex> if i culd get internet on ubuntu i would do it  but since i cant i need to sort it out on vista...
[10:54] <ThusLex> how do i find out what my wireless card is in vista?
[10:54] <hangthedj> err Start -> Run -> cmd -> ipconfig /all
[10:54] <hangthedj> its been awhile, but i think that should do it
[10:55] <ThusLex> Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter is my wireless card right?
[10:55] <corinth> ThusLexx: yes
[10:55] <ThusLex> meh
[10:56] <ThusLex> its not on that site :(
[10:56] <ThusLex> my card
[10:56] <hangthedj> ThusLex are you running Gutsy?
[10:56] <ThusLex> no
[10:56] <ThusLex> im on vista at the moment
[10:57] <hangthedj> i mean did it not work on gutsy?
[10:57] <ThusLex> did what not work on gutsy?
[10:57] <ThusLex> the internet?
[10:58] <hangthedj> Your wireless card
[10:58] <ThusLex> well not that im aware of no
[10:58] <ThusLex> i tried it wireless
[10:58] <ThusLex> then it said it wasnt connected
[10:58] <hangthedj> and your running gutsy not fiesty?
[10:58] <ThusLex> and it had  two options: wired connection and manual connection or something like that
[10:58] <ThusLex> wired connection worked fine when i used a cable to the internet
[10:58] <ThusLex> gutsy is ubuntu 7.04 right?
[10:59] <hangthedj> gutsy is 7.10
[10:59] <hangthedj> feisty is 7.04
[10:59] <ThusLex> meh yeah i mean 7.04
[10:59] <ThusLex> wait
[10:59] <ThusLex> ah no i got 7.10
[10:59] <ThusLex> soz
[11:00] <ThusLex> so yeah i got gutsy
[11:00] <ThusLex> :p
[11:00] <hangthedj> my atheros works on gutsy
[11:00] <hangthedj> maybe try getting the sources to madwifi and compiling and installing them.
[11:00] <ThusLex> ook
[11:00] <hangthedj> i wrote a walkthrough for fiesty at www.geocities.com/sikofitt
[11:00] <hangthedj> it might work
[11:01] <hangthedj> maybe you have a newer card than me
[11:01] <ThusLex> http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[11:01] <ThusLex> thats right isnti t?
[11:01] <ThusLex> isnt it
[11:01] <poison--> <ThusLex, try ndiswrapper
[11:01] <poison--> !ndiswrapper
[11:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:01] <poison--> worked perfect for me with that car
[11:01] <poison--> card*
[11:02] <hangthedj> Atheros doesn't need ndiswrapper madwifi supports it
[11:02] <poison--> <hangthedj, madwifi is good, but its not that easy
[11:02] <ThusLex> i went on that help.ubuntu site, doesnt have my card on it...
[11:03] <ThusLex> hm
[11:03] <poison--> <ThusLex, i used ndiswrapper with asus, acer and sony laptops
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: what card do you have?
[11:03] <ThusLex> gonna be kinda hard to download all these programs and things with no internet on linux :p
[11:03] <poison--> worked like a charme
[11:03] <ThusLex> erm
[11:03] <ThusLex> wait
[11:03] <ThusLex>  Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
[11:03] <hangthedj> it is pretty easy, install build-essentals linux-headers-$(uname -r), compile, install
[11:03] <hangthedj> there you go
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: cant you used wired til you get your wireless setup?
[11:04] <ThusLex> the other computer is on the wire
[11:04] <hangthedj> ahh, mine is AR5006EG
[11:04] <ThusLex> and my mum is using it
[11:04] <hangthedj> new computer?
[11:04] <ThusLex> yeah
[11:04] <ThusLex> about 2 or 3 weeks old
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=457852
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: its too new-a-card for madwifi (at present). Ndiswrapper will do you
[11:06] <ThusLex> ok
[11:06] <ThusLex> well brb
[11:06] <ThusLex> let me put mirc on the other computer so i sort this out
[11:06] <hangthedj> could always try the svn or cvs of madwifi .. pfft
[11:06] <hangthedj> i was joking
[11:06] <hangthedj> :p
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: Why not use XChat, its free
[11:08] <Tm_T> why not use all other free IRC clients aswell
[11:08] <hangthedj> bitchx!
[11:08] <Tm_T> irssi <3<3<3
[11:08] <hangthedj> :D
[11:09] <ThusLex> Atheros AR5007EG on Feisty Fawn (with ndiswrapper)
[11:09] <ThusLex> will it work with gutsy as well?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: Should be essentially the same. Just get it on wired and sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[11:09] <hangthedj> ThusLex, its worth a shot right?
[11:09] <ThusLex> yeah
[11:10] <ThusLex> just dont want to mess up the new laptop :p
[11:10] <ThusLex> dont fancing getting killed yet
[11:10] <hangthedj> well the wifi doesn't work now, so ....
[11:10] <ThusLex1> ok im now on the other computer
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: then follow the instructions to install the hardware using the windows inf file
[11:10] <poison--> <ThusLex, i think i have a how 2 here to install dat card
[11:10] <poison--> with ndiswrapper tho
[11:10] <ThusLex> ...
[11:10] <ThusLex> tell me poison--
[11:11] <hangthedj> or go to madwifi.org and see if the svn supports the new card
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: sudo ndiswrapper -i net5211.inf
[11:11] <poison--> that :D
[11:12] <ThusLex> hm wait, let me get linux up
[11:12] <poison--> u need the right driver tho
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: then start from step 7 as apt will install the ndiswrapper for you
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Atheros#AtherosAR5007EG
[11:13] <ThusLex1> k
[11:14] <ThusLex1> ok linux is loading on the laptop now
[11:16] <ThusLex1> so i type sudo ndiswrapper -i net5211.inf in linux right?
[11:16] <dread> 7leave
[11:17] <ThusLex1> ???
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: if that is the name of the inf file you have in your windows driver
[11:17] <ThusLex1> meh this is complicated
[11:17] <ThusLex1> what do i have to do first?
[11:17] <ThusLex1> get this ndiswrapper?
[11:17] <ThusLex1> or what?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: have you installed ndiswrapper?
[11:17] <poison--> <ThusLex1, find the windows driver first
[11:18] <ThusLex1> ok
[11:18] <ThusLex1> any idea how i do that?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: are you on a laptop?
[11:18] <poison--> dont u have the cd?
[11:18] <ThusLex1> im using the normal computer to talk to u
[11:18] <ThusLex1> but im using the laptop for linux and that
[11:18] <ThusLex1> the cd for?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: ok what make / model is the laptop
[11:19]  * ActionParsnip prays not acer
[11:19] <ThusLex1> lol
[11:19] <ThusLex1> Acer Aspire 5310
[11:20] <ThusLex1> so now what?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: this pretty much walks yo uthrough it
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: http://www1.webng.com/leftfieldnz/acer5310.html
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: just replace feisty with gutsy
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: should be ok
[11:22] <ThusLex1> omg
[11:22] <ThusLex1> this is like another language for me :(
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: actually, thats for broadcom
[11:22] <ThusLex1> im so stuffed
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: its not so hard
[11:22] <ThusLex1> on that page
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: I'll get you the driver file link
[11:22] <ThusLex1> i start on the WIFI section which is futher down right?
[11:23] <poison--> ThusLex1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs?highlight=%28%28WifiDocs%7CDevice%7CTRENDnet+TEW-421PC+H%7CW%3AB1+%28ndiswrapper%29%29%29
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> yeah but you need the driver for the atheros
[11:24] <ThusLex1> okk
[11:25] <tsb_> My computer runs utf8, I want konsole to behave correctly on an iso-8859-1 server, how do I fix the encoding?
[11:25] <ThusLex1> any luck wit the drive file link ActionParsnip?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: http://www.atheros.cz/download/drivers/ar5xxx/xp32-5.3.0.56-whql.zip
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: its a hard file to find but got it
[11:26] <ThusLex1> so i have to download that onto ubuntu right?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: yes, then extract it
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: there are 3 files in there
[11:27] <ThusLex1> ok well i will have to get an irc on the laptop
[11:27] <ThusLex1> so i can talk
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: ok
[11:27] <ThusLex1> what is a good irc chat for ubuntu?
[11:27] <ThusLex1> and whats the easiest way t odownload it?
[11:27] <ThusLex1> that "apt-get install .." way?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: xchat is ok
[11:28] <ThusLex1> so i type in apt-get install xchat?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: you need to run sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: that too yes
[11:28] <ThusLex1> ok
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: you'll need sudo apt-get install xchat or it wont work
[11:29] <ThusLex1> well save that driver file link and send it to me when i come back on with linux plz ActionParsnip
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex1: ok np
[11:35] <bingobaer> morgen
[11:36] <bingobaer> hi
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> hey
[11:37] <bingobaer> hat jemand ma ne halbe stunde oder so zeit? ich wollte kubuntu installiern und hätte gern jemand dabei der mir hilft damit ich nix anderes kaputt mache
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> !gr
[11:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[11:37] <pag> !de | bingobaer
[11:37] <ubotu> bingobaer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:38] <bingobaer> ok danke
[11:38] <bingobaer> thank you
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> pag: was close
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> pag: :)
[11:39] <pag> ActionParsnip, yup :)
[11:42] <ThusLex> meh
[11:42] <ThusLex> im on linux
[11:42] <Tm_T> oh noooo
[11:42] <ThusLex> cant get terminal to download anything
[11:42]  * Tm_T hides
[11:43] <ThusLex> i typed in sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:43] <Tm_T> ThusLex: any errors?
[11:43] <ThusLex> but it said the package couldnt be found
[11:43] <ThusLex> it said the same with ndiswrapper
[11:43] <Tm_T> ahah
[11:43] <pag> ThusLex, sudo apt-get update  first
[11:43] <ThusLex> oh ok
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: try sudo apt-get update
[11:43] <ThusLex> ok its done
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: and install xchat and ndiswrapper
[11:44] <ThusLex> hmm
[11:44] <ThusLex> says the same with xchat
[11:44] <pag> ThusLex, make sure you have Universe enabled
[11:44] <ThusLex> ...
[11:45] <ThusLex> how do i enable/disable it?
[11:45] <pag> !universe | ThusLex
[11:45] <ubotu> ThusLex: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:47] <ThusLex> kubuntu is the same as ubuntu then?
[11:47] <pag> ThusLex, the core system is the same
[11:47] <ThusLex> ok
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: you can add these: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:47] <pag> ThusLex, differences come along on default set of applications
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Thus to /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <ThusLex> ok well i think im doing it
[11:50] <ThusLex> adding the repositroies
[11:51] <ThusLex> ahhh
[11:51] <ThusLex> its done it now
[11:51] <ThusLex> its installing xchat :)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: yay, wtg :D
[11:52] <ThusLex> so after i'll do ndiswrapper
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: do the same withndiswrapper
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: see, you are learning :D
[11:52] <ThusLex> hehe
[11:52] <ThusLex> i owe it to all of u :p
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: that's why its called a community
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: wget http://www.atheros.cz/download/drivers/ar5xxx/xp32-5.3.0.56-whql.zip
[11:54] <ThusLex> ahh yes i'll download that
[11:54] <Thus_Lex> ok im now using xchat
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> http://youtube.com/watch?v=XzMvrNxnMD8
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: ok cool
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: do you have ndis?
[11:55] <Thus_Lex> no
[11:55] <Thus_Lex> it says it couldnt find package
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: try ndiswrapper-common
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: and ndiswrapper-utils
[11:58] <hangthedj> 33.6 fax modem
[11:59] <Thus_Lex> ok the -common is working ActionParsnip
[11:59] <Thus_Lex> should i do the utils one?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: yeah and get linux-headers too
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: and ndisgtk
[12:00] <Thus_Lex> Package ndiswrapper-utils is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:00] <Thus_Lex> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:00] <Thus_Lex> is only available from another source
[12:00] <Thus_Lex> However the following packages replace it:
[12:00] <Thus_Lex>   ndiswrapper-common
[12:00] <Thus_Lex> E: Package ndiswrapper-utils has no installation candidate
[12:00] <Thus_Lex> ... ActionParsnip
[12:00] <stdin> Thus_Lex: it's "ndiswrapper-utils-1.9"
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: sup
[12:01] <Thus_Lex> ok doing that now
[12:01] <stdin> no need for linux-headers, just ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (ndisgtk for a GUI)
[12:02] <Thus_Lex> well ive just done headers
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> stdin: just read it on some site
[12:02] <Thus_Lex> ok
[12:02] <stdin> you aren't compiling anything, so no headers needed
[12:02] <Thus_Lex> installed them all
[12:02] <Thus_Lex> downloaded that driver file
[12:02] <Thus_Lex> now what?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: extract the3 files to your home folder some place
[12:03] <stdin> and we do have our own ndiswrapper guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:04] <Thus_Lex> ok ActionParsnip ive  done it...
[12:04] <Thus_Lex> extracted it
[12:04] <Thus_Lex> now what...
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: ok cd into the folder and run sudo ndiswrapper -i <some .inf file>
[12:05] <stdin> if you installed the GUI, use that
[12:05] <Thus_Lex> so i go to the terminal?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: youcan use terminal or the gui, your call
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: terminal imho is easier
[12:06] <Thus_Lex> for people that know how to use it
[12:06] <Thus_Lex> but im going to conquer it! :p
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: you dont use Konqueror to install it
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> you need to run ndisgtk
[12:07] <Thus_Lex> no i mean im going to master the terminal :D
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: ok
[12:07]  * stdin hopes ActionParsnip was making a pun then
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: ok fire up a terminal
[12:07] <Thus_Lex> well ive ran the .inf file with ndiswrapper...
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: you need to do it as a command afaik
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> sudo ndiswrapper -i <inf file name>
[12:08] <Thus_Lex> yes ive done it
[12:08] <im-a-n00b> hey all, looking for a new mobo for a linux box.. but want good linux compatibility.. i usually go asus.. but just wondering peoples thoughts.. hoping for a pciex16 gfx am2 chip and 2-4 gig of ram
[12:08] <Thus_Lex> it came up: forcing parameter MapRegisters from 256 to 64
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: ok does ndiswrapper -l look ok (el not iy)
[12:08] <Thus_Lex> lots of time
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: should give {name of driver} driver present, hardware present
[12:09] <anto> When i try restarting my network "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" it says that eth0 does not exist
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: or similar
[12:09] <Thus_Lex> this comes up
[12:09] <Thus_Lex> net5211 : driver installed
[12:09] <Thus_Lex>         device (168C:001C) present (alternate driver: ath_pci)
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: sweet
[12:09] <stdin> you should blacklist that ath_pci module too
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> stdin: does that look ok to you
[12:10] <stdin> ActionParsnip: yep
[12:10] <Thus_Lex> ok now what?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: sudo depmod -a
[12:11] <stdin> you should do:    echo "ath_pci" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:11] <stdin> to stop the alternate driver loading
[12:11] <tsb_> Is it possible to have kosole set the encoding based on SSL_CONNECTION? (ie which server you are connected to)
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: any errors?
[12:12] <Thus_Lex> i typed in sudo depmod -a and it took about 20 seconds for anythign to happen
[12:12] <Thus_Lex> then i typed the modprobe ndiswrapper and nothing happened
[12:12] <Thus_Lex> just a new ubuntu@ubuntu:
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: this is good
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: just need sudo ifup wlan0
[12:13] <Thus_Lex> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> stdin: will he need to add sudo ndiswrapper -m in his /etc/modules file
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> stdin: so ndiswrapper is loaded at boot
[12:14] <stdin> ActionParsnip: "sudo ndiswrapper -m" adds ndiswrapper to /etc/modules, so just need to do that command once
[12:14] <Thus_Lex> now what ActionParsnip?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> stdin: cheers man
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[12:15] <Thus_Lex> ok now what?
[12:15] <stdin> Thus_Lex: can you post the output of "iwconfig" to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org too, just to make sure everything is working?
[12:15] <im-a-n00b> no one with board recommendations?
[12:16] <stdin> im-a-n00b: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:16] <im-a-n00b> stdin: kk thanks :)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> stdin: how does that paste thing work. Does it just update to everyone accessing when a user pastes?
[12:17] <Thus_Lex> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46077/
[12:17] <Thus_Lex> so what do I do now???
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> stdin: i got it :)
[12:17] <stdin> ActionParsnip: it just creates a page with that text on it, then the user gives back the url :)
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: you should now be able to access your network config and setup the network from there
[12:18] <stdin> Thus_Lex: ok, can you also post "ifconfig" now? (you may have to reboot for everything to work
[12:18] <stdin> ActionParsnip: not quite
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> stdin: bah, I always by netgear wifi. Not overly in love with ndiswrapper
[12:19] <Thus_Lex> stdin: bash: ipconfig: command not found
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> stdin: what else is needed
[12:19] <stdin> Thus_Lex: i said "ifconfig" not "ipconfig" ;)
[12:20] <Thus_Lex> oh :p
[12:20] <stdin> ActionParsnip: it may need a reboot to make sure the ath_pci driver is unloaded and ndiswrapper has control
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Thus_Lex: do the above. stdin cheers man
[12:21] <Thus_Lex> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46078/
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> stdin: dont we have to do some radiostate shenanigans
[12:22] <poison--> lol@ipconfig
[12:22] <stdin> Thus_Lex: ok, now after you reboot, if you see the same in both commands something is wrong. so let's hope it shows different after a reboot
[12:22] <Thus_Lex> ok brb then
[12:22] <brent> hi
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> h ibrent
[12:24] <brent> anyone have trouble installing compiz in kubuntu amd64 7.10?
[12:24] <stdin> did you follow the guide?
[12:24] <stdin> !compiz
[12:24] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:24] <brent> awesome, thanks
[12:24] <brent> !compiz
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> stdin loves the !
[12:25] <stdin> ActionParsnip: saves me typing out the same info over and over and over and over and over....
[12:25] <Armakidon> .j ubuntu-ru
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> heheh stdin, I can see it ;)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> stdin: where are you from?
[12:27] <stdin> UK
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> stdin: me too. LEEDS
[12:28] <stdin> I'm in B'Ham
[12:31] <ThusLex> well i got some really really bad news
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ..
[12:31] <ThusLex> linux is running of a disc
[12:31] <ThusLex> so of course when i restarted it nothing was saved -_-
[12:32] <ThusLex> its a re writeable disc so i thought it would save it all...
[12:32] <stdin> heh, we thought you'd installed it to the HDD
[12:32]  * ActionParsnip looks at stdin :(
[12:32] <ThusLex> erm
[12:32] <ThusLex> is it possible to run it off my usb key?
[12:32] <ThusLex> AND actually save the stuff on it
[12:32] <poison--> lol, instaled compiz-fusion and my process table is gone
[12:32] <poison--> lol
[12:33] <ThusLex> ActionParsnip or stdin?
[12:34] <stdin> ThusLex: not sure if it's working yet. that feature was broken a release or two ago. but even if it's fixed, it'll only save data from /home/ubuntu
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: yes you can install it to a usb key. as it is a writable media, the settings will stay. We assumed you had installed the system and not just running it live
[12:34] <Jucato> poison--: what do you mean by "gone"?
[12:34] <stdin> you'd need to remaster the desktop cd to have it use ndiswrapper
[12:34] <ThusLex> well how do i do it actionparsnip?
[12:35] <ThusLex> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install-for-linux-users/
[12:35] <ThusLex> is that link the right instructions?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: if you do it it will WIPE your hard drive and remove whatever is on there at the moment
[12:35] <ThusLex> it will wipe my harddrive on my laptop?
[12:36] <ThusLex> or on my usb key?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: if you do a normal install, yes. The USB drive install walkthrough looks cool
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: the USB install wont touch your internal drive
[12:37] <ThusLex> ok well i'll follow the instructions now
[12:37] <stdin> not sure that's exactly what you want, I think that will save only user's settings, not system settings
[12:37] <stdin> but you can try and hope :)
[12:38] <poison--> Jucato, doest show any process running
[12:38] <poison--> :D
[12:38] <poison--> cant Kill nothing now :(
[12:38] <Jucato> poison--: are you sure you don't have anything filtered (text in the filter bar)?
[12:39] <poison--> nope
[12:39] <poison--> all ok
[12:39] <poison--> second time compiz messes around with it
[12:39] <Jucato> All Processes is set?
[12:39] <poison--> yes
[12:39] <Jucato> weird...
[12:39] <Jucato> but top is behaving normally?
[12:39] <poison--> "top"?
[12:40] <Jucato> in Konsole :)
[12:40] <poison--> ohh yes
[12:40] <Jucato> bleh compiz-foo
[12:40] <Jucato> :P
[12:40] <ThusLex> i really hope this works
[12:40] <poison--> lmao
[12:40] <poison--> damn virtualbox is eating all my resources
[12:41] <poison--> gonna kill compiz
[12:41] <poison--> !compiz
[12:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:42] <ThusLex> lol
[12:42] <ThusLex> the first stage doesnt work
[12:42] <ThusLex> Type umount /dev/sdx1
[12:42] <ThusLex> bash: unmount: command not found
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: it wont be sdx1
[12:42] <ThusLex> yes ive done it as sdb1
[12:42] <poison--> omg
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: it'll be sd<some letter>
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: try df in konsole
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: this will give you the info you need
[12:43] <ThusLex> /dev/sdb1               995808    719504    276304  73% /media/disk
[12:43] <ThusLex> even when i
[12:43] <ThusLex> oops
[12:43] <ThusLex> yes but when i type @u
[12:44] <ThusLex> unmount
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Thug-life: then its sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[12:44] <ThusLex> oh
[12:44] <ThusLex> so u put sudo infront of every command?
[12:44] <ThusLex> or most
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: users cant unmount stuff
[12:44] <ThusLex> ah ok
[12:44] <ThusLex> soz
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: only when its an admin task and its a command line command
[12:44] <stdin> it should probably be "pumount /dev/sdb1"
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: if you want to run a gui app (like kate) then use kdesu
[12:45] <ThusLex> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# sudo unmount /dev/sdb1
[12:45] <ThusLex> sudo: unmount: command not found
[12:45] <stdin> ThusLex: "umount" not "unmount"
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: umount
[12:45] <ThusLex> meh
[12:45] <ThusLex> i need to start reading
[12:45] <stdin> it's important you do ;)
[12:45] <stdin> the console is powerful, so you need to be careful
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: you can type um and then press tab
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: it finishes stuff for you
[12:46] <ThusLex> ok
[12:47] <stdin> !tab
[12:47] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:47] <stdin> :)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ThusLex: I pretty much keep my pinkie on tab the whole time
[12:49] <ThusLex> ok
[12:49] <stdin> and the backspace key are the two most used keys on my keyboard
[12:50] <Jucato> shift, left control, left win key, left alt, and enter... all rubbed out..
[12:50] <Jucato> (win key, for Amarok...)
[12:50] <stdin> if I could get my media keys to work, I wouldn't need my win key
[12:51]  * Jucato has no such keys... old keyboard...
[12:51] <stdin> it's the only thing I miss, I've created a script to set the brightness for me so I don't miss those keys
[12:52] <ThusLex> If everything has gone as it should, you should now be able to boot Ubuntu 7.04 from the USB flash device and it should save your changes, restoring them on boot.
[12:52] <ThusLex> hmm
[12:54] <ThusLex> hm ok
[12:54] <ThusLex> should work now
[12:54] <ThusLex> let me see..
[12:54] <ThusLex> brb
[13:03] <marciano> ls
[13:03] <marciano> oi
[13:10] <ThusLex> meh
[13:10] <ThusLex> stdin?
[13:10] <ThusLex> no when it tries to boot the usb key
[13:10] <ThusLex> it comesu p
[13:11] <ThusLex> Could not find kerrnel image: vmlinuz
[13:11] <lg188> hello
[13:11] <stdin> ThusLex: that page says you may need to install lilo on the usb drive
[13:12] <ThusLex> lilo?
[13:12] <ThusLex> where can i get that?
[13:12] <stdin> ThusLex: "sudo apt-get install lilo" then do "lilo -M /dev/sdb"
[13:14] <lg188> is everybody ok ?
[13:14] <ThusLex> stdin
[13:14] <ThusLex> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lilo -M /dev/sdb1
[13:14] <ThusLex> Fatal: /dev/sdb1 is not a master device with a primary parition table
[13:14] <stdin> ThusLex: /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb1
[13:15] <ThusLex> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lilo -M /dev/sdb
[13:15] <ThusLex> Fatal: creat /boot/boot.0810: Permission denied
[13:15] <stdin> use sudo then
[13:15] <row> Anyone here use compiz no how to get the desktop count to match if set number of desktops in kde to lets say 2, it shows 4 in the switcher in kde desktop switcher but in fact only has 2?
[13:15] <row> I am using gusty kubuntu amd64
[13:15] <stdin> row: compiz bug, nothing you can do except remove the pager applet
[13:15] <ThusLex> The Master Boot Record of  /dev/sdb  has been updated.
[13:15] <ThusLex> so it should work now?
[13:16] <stdin> ThusLex: try it and see
[13:16] <ThusLex> ok
[13:16] <ThusLex> im gonna try it on my other computer
[13:18] <ThusLex> i g2g
[13:18] <ThusLex> i'll be bak later
[13:18] <osman47> !de
[13:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:21] <ThusLex1> stdin
[13:21] <ThusLex1> it still comes up the same error
[13:21] <ThusLex1> any ideas? ....
[13:21] <stdin> no, I've never tried to boot from usb
[13:21] <remotechief_311> How can I install ".deb-FIles" (I thought it is something with dpkg...)
[13:22] <stdin> !deb
[13:22] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[13:22] <ThusLex1> meh
[13:22] <ThusLex1> i'll try it gain
[13:22] <ThusLex1> again
[13:23] <fredrik> .Hi I filde with uprade to 7.10 (a link opend in the package manager insted of Firefox) now I cant restart de upgrade, thr package manger is in use it says
[13:23] <lg188> some question : (not really related to Kubuntu ):somebody knows alpha thing ,were you can do things by a some sort of machine
[13:23] <fredrik> Failed
[13:24] <remotechief_311> I want to install the file with shell
[13:24] <stdin> remotechief_311: "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[13:24] <stdin> !aptfix | fredrik, try this
[13:24] <ubotu> fredrik, try this: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:25] <JackWinter> hiya, is there a command or program for setting pci latency and to reassign apic assigned irqs?
[13:25] <remotechief_311> stdin: thanks ;)
[13:25] <crashev> when I try to boot kubuntu-7.10-rc-desktop-amd64.iso livecd i get black screen on nvidia 8600GS - any workaround for that?
[13:25] <JackWinter> or who knows maybe config files..
[13:26] <fredrik> ubotu: thanks it worked
[13:26] <stdin> crashev: tried in safe graphics mode?
[13:27] <crashev> stdin: not, but anyway safe graphics mode is for instaltation purposes only not for running livecd distro ?
[13:27] <stdin> crashev: for both
[13:27] <crashev> will try it then
[13:29] <JackWinter> any know if there is an ubuntu or linux hardware groiup?
[13:30] <stdin> JackWinter: try ##linux
[13:45] <ThusLex1> meh someone help :(
[13:45] <ThusLex1> ive tried to do it again but it still wont work..
[13:45] <ThusLex1> comes up it cant find the stupid image
[13:45] <ThusLex1> anyone know???
[13:49] <ThusLex1> :(
[13:50] <remotechief_311> which is the best backup program (konserve?)
[13:54] <ubuntu> lol
[13:59] <sebastian^> hi folks :)
[14:03] <mrsno> spotted a typo on the kubuntuhardy page
[14:03] <mrsno> Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated.
[14:04] <rallisopuli> hello
[14:04] <rallisopuli> HALOOO HOMOT?!??!
[14:07] <lovre> hi all
[14:07] <pag> hey lovre :)
[14:08] <lovre> my open office opens in fullscreen mode and i cant select anything from the menu, it acts weird. Im using compiz on kubuntu gutsy
[14:08] <lovre> its not usable like this, is there anything i can do
[14:09] <pag> lovre, well... I personally use neither, but you could try, if alt+f3 -> resize  or alt+f3 -> advanced -> fullscreen  will help you
[14:10] <lovre> alt+f3 doesnt do anything
[14:11] <pag> hmph... probably compiz has another keybinding for window menu then... :\
[14:12]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:15] <jtmoney> in compiz, what is the name of the feature that shows all the virtual desktops lined up in a line with a reflection on the bottom?
[14:16] <pag> jtmoney, 'Desktop Wall' or something similiar iirc
[14:16] <jtmoney> hmm, desktop plane?
[14:16] <jtmoney> that disables the cube =(
[14:17] <jtmoney> nah, that's not it... let me keep looking
[14:18] <Jucato> desktop wall? maybe desktop grid? maybe #compiz-fusion ?
[14:18] <jtmoney> ahh, i was wondering why #compiz was so dead
[14:18] <jtmoney> whoops
[14:18] <jtmoney> thanks, guys
[14:19] <lovre> is there anywhere an option in openoffice to set it to load as a fullscreen or something else
[14:24] <jtmoney> ahh, i needed compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[14:24] <jtmoney> it's called "expo"
[14:24] <jtmoney> ;)
[14:29] <vlt> Hello. After creating and deleting some files in an NFS mounted directory I got three additional files matching ".nfs0001fed90000000[1-3]" in the directory. Any idea?
[14:30] <vlt> Looking further into the files I can see that these are files I deleted using Konqueror.
[14:32] <flake> is ut3 out yet, is it good, and is there a linux client for it
[14:33] <vlt> I can't remove the files (busy). `fuser` tells me that a Konqueror process is using them.
[14:33] <Daisuke-Ido> google, google, and google
[14:33] <flake> looks like just a beta
[14:34] <flake> please, i have googly eyes
[14:34] <Daisuke-Ido> then there you have your answer :)
[14:34] <Daisuke-Ido> i only recommend that because i don't know for sure
[14:35] <flake> downloading beta right now, always get best speed from Gamers Hell
[14:35] <vlt> I killed the Konqueror process and now the files are gone ... hmmmm funny
[14:37] <flake> should be in stores by now, oh well.. off to try the demo
[14:40] <flake> tried to install UT3 beta under wine, it wants IE5+ installed first before NET 2.0
[14:40] <flake> hmm
[14:41] <jac0b-work> I am having problem with adept it gives a error while it is configuring I think
[14:42] <ThusLex> stdin u there?
[14:42] <jac0b-work> is there any fix for it
[14:43] <stdin> ThusLex: just about
[14:43] <ThusLex> well it is sort of working
[14:43] <ThusLex> it freezes when it asks me to boot ubuntu
[14:44] <ThusLex> so i thought i wil try that lilo thing again
[14:44] <ThusLex> but the problem is when i get and install it with the terminal
[14:44] <ThusLex> it says i have to execute the /sbin/lilo
[14:44] <ThusLex> how do i do that?
[14:44] <ThusLex> oh and i have to open liloconfiguration(8) or something
[14:44] <ThusLex> any ideas stdin?
[14:45] <desman4774> !de
[14:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:45] <stdin> ThusLex: I haven't used lilo in years, but I think you just do "sudo lilo /dev/sdb" or something like that
[14:45] <mrsno> flake http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9433&iTestingId=16393 it doesn't look too good
[14:45] <stdin> jac0b-work: give "sudo dpkg --configure -a" a go in konsole
[14:46] <jac0b-work> thanks stdin
[14:46] <ThusLex> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lilo -M /dev/sdb
[14:46] <ThusLex> Backup copy of /dev/sdb in /boot/boot.0810
[14:46] <ThusLex> The Master Boot Record of  /dev/sdb  has been updated.
[14:46] <ThusLex> well i;; try it again
[14:46] <stdin> hmm, he still need to learn to read ;) I didn't say anything about "-M"
[14:46] <desman4774> whats the name of a very good encrypteR?
[14:47] <jac0b-work> can I use this for getting the correct sources for kubuntu or is this just for ubuntu http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[14:47] <mrsno> !encrypt
[14:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:47] <desman4774> !encrypt
[14:47] <mrsno> desman4774 the ubuntu wiki has a few things mentioned on file encryption, there are a few methods really
[14:48] <pag> jac0b-work, it works for both.
[14:48] <stdin> jac0b-work: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same sources
[14:48] <bcoffiel44> Hi all.  I'm a master noobian with linux....  Question:  i've dealt first hand with the knetwork manager glitch or whatever (had to reformat and reinstall the entire os).  yesterday though, it just wasn't showing up at all, even after multiple restarts.  I'd installed nothing, changed nothing since last it worked.  And then after booting into windows and working there (where the internet is...
[14:48] <bcoffiel44> ...fine) and coming back it worked.  Any idea why this happened, and is there any command to reset the network interface or whatever?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Morning folks
[14:49] <jac0b-work> thanks everyone for the help
[14:49] <Dragonath> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". <-- quake3 startup says this. how do I fix it? :)
[14:49] <mrsno> Dragonath you aren't launching q3 with sudo are you?
[14:49] <Dragonath> no
[14:50] <Dragonath> it worked two days ago, and I don't think I updated anything that mattered
[14:50] <mrsno> ok so have you either enabled the restricted drivers, or installed the binary drivers for your graphics card manually?
[14:50] <mrsno> if you got a kernel update then that could have caused it
[14:50] <Dragonath> I don't think I have messed with drivers at all
[14:51] <bcoffiel44> good mornign
[14:51] <Dragonath> however I might be wrong
[14:51] <mrsno> ok well try sudo /usr/bin/restricted-manager and check the box, if applicable :)
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, which grphx card ?
[14:51] <stdin> erm, use system settings rather than starting it with sudo
[14:51] <Dragonath> ati radeon 9600
[14:51] <Dragonath> pro
[14:51] <mrsno> sorry, that should be gksudo / kd-equivalent
[14:52] <mrsno> using sudo for gui apps can cause problems :)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, using the restricted driver ?
[14:52] <ThusLex> argh
[14:52] <Dragonath> yes, I think so
[14:52] <ThusLex> someone must knwo why it keeps freezing whe
[14:52] <ThusLex> when its loading from my usk key!?
[14:52] <ThusLex> it must be my usb key
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Dragonath,you can check in system settings /advanced
[14:53] <ThusLex> even when i boot linux from the disc and have my usb key plugged in it freezes
[14:53] <ThusLex> without the key its fine
[14:53] <BluesKaj> ThusLex, you're confusing the bootup sequence , maybe
[14:54] <ThusLex> well i have put linux on my usb key
[14:54] <Dragonath> what bit under advanced settings?
[14:54] <ThusLex> following a tutorial on the internet
[14:54] <ThusLex> i take the disc out and plug my usb key in
[14:54] <BluesKaj> restricted driver/enabled
[14:54] <ThusLex> when it comes up the boot up screen to choose what i want to do, it just loads up to 100% then freezes..
[14:55] <mrsno> ThusLex which tutorial did you use? i have used the guide on pendrivelinux.com successfully, i believe the ubuntu wiki has steps for persistant usb bootable too
[14:55] <Dragonath> under system settings' advanced tab there's no mention of any restricted drivers
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, feisty or gutsy?
[14:56] <Dragonath> there's just filesystems, system services, login manager, windows apps, audio encoding, kde resources, service manager and session manager
[14:56] <ThusLex> i used this guide: www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/#more-243
[14:56] <ThusLex> mrsno
[14:56] <Dragonath> was feisty, updated to gutsy a few weeks ago
[14:56] <ThusLex> is that the one u used?
[14:57] <mrsno> ThusLex it might be, you could try fat32 in the partition stage, instead of fat16 (seemed to be quicker for me), but can i ask, are you using a usb2.0 pen ? usb 1 is too slow to be useable really
[14:58] <osman47> where does the things go when i download them with adeptmangaer
[14:58] <ThusLex> why am i using a usb 2.0 pen?
[14:58] <mrsno> pen drives can be usb or usb2.0 ThusLex :)
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[14:59] <ThusLex> what one is best then?
[14:59] <ThusLex> usb or usb2.0
[14:59] <mrsno> usb2.0 is much faster
[14:59] <osman47> HELP PLS where do things go when i download them from adept manager?
[14:59] <ThusLex> mrsno mine is a usb2.0
[15:00] <Dragonath> they install themselves osman47
[15:00] <Dragonath> adept manager downloads them and then installs them exactly where they should be
[15:00] <ThusLex> Interface:  USB 2.0
[15:00] <osman47> i know but how can i start them!?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> osman47, usually in the k-menu
[15:00] <mrsno> alright ThusLex , well try the guide again, maybe try fat32 instead of fat16 and lets see how that goes for you
[15:00] <Dragonath> try typing the program's name in a terminal, too
[15:00] <ThusLex> ok
[15:01] <ThusLex> ill try again
[15:01] <ThusLex> brb
[15:01] <mrsno> me too
[15:01] <Dragonath> BluesKaj: installed the manager, system settings says it is enabled
[15:01] <osman47> how do i start them with terminal?
[15:01] <Dragonath> quake3 fails to start
[15:01] <BluesKaj> AFAIK fat16 isn't supported
[15:01] <Dragonath> osman47: alt+f2 and the command
[15:02] <Dragonath> or just open a terminal window
[15:02] <Dragonath> and type the command in there
[15:02] <osman47> i tried but i dont work
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, reboot
[15:02] <Dragonath> noo, my uptime!
[15:02] <Dragonath> ok, thanks, will do
[15:02] <BluesKaj> relogin then
[15:02] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: what doesn't support fat16?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> reading and writing from ext3 , jhutchins
[15:04] <BluesKaj> <---could be wrong , was sure I read that somewhere :)
[15:04] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: You mean transferring files between the two?
[15:06] <Dragonath> hmm, quake3 still refuses to work
[15:07] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, yes
[15:07] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: k, that's a myth.  All that's required is that the kernel support both filesystems for r/w, and Linux not only supports fat16 it supports fat12.
[15:08] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: A lot of USB sticks are fat 16
[15:08] <Dragonath> same error
[15:08] <jhutchins> Dragonath: Trying to get it to work under wine?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> IC jhutchins, ok , I withdraw my statement !
[15:11] <Dragonath> no
[15:11] <Dragonath> I installed the linux version
[15:11] <BluesKaj> he needs DRI and 3D enabled
[15:11] <Dragonath> and copied the pak files
[15:11] <Dragonath> it actually worked, but then some update flicked a bad switch :)
[15:12] <Dragonath> maybe something in xorg.conf?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> ahh ok, that happened to me too, that damn notifier doesn't tell you when it's about to change your xorg file
[15:13] <Dragonath> what lines should I search for?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, post your xorg file in pastebin so we can have a look-see
[15:15] <jembouge> hi every one?
[15:15] <jembouge> I just installed kubntu and got a problem
[15:15] <Dragonath> mm, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46100/
[15:15] <jembouge> is anyone here?
[15:15] <Dragonath> what problem?
[15:15] <stdin> !ask
[15:16] <agm_> what is username and password for live cd
[15:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:16] <jembouge> well, I boot and everything is okay
[15:16] <stdin> agm_: there isn't a password, username us "ubuntu"
[15:16] <agm_> ok thanks
[15:16] <jembouge> however, the login screen looks awful
[15:16] <jembouge> the text like "login" and "password" are all oversized
[15:17] <jembouge> so I don't know where to click or write the password
[15:17] <youness> sudu -s
[15:17] <youness> sudo -s
[15:17] <jembouge> yeah, actually I can't see what's written
[15:17] <jembouge> so I'm guessing there's something
[15:17] <stdin> youness: ?
[15:18] <jembouge> so anyone knows how to redefine the size of the text at the login screen?
[15:19] <jembouge> so it doesn't appear huge, but normal size say about 16px
[15:20] <jembouge> Dragonath?
[15:21] <Dragonath> ehh I am too new to linux to know that
[15:21] <Dragonath> but try ctrl alt + or -
[15:21] <jembouge> ok I will next reboot
[15:21] <youness> thasnot work on liux
[15:21] <Dragonath> it's for zooming the screen
[15:21] <Dragonath> but I don't know if it will help
[15:22] <jembouge> ok thanks
[15:22] <Dragonath> however
[15:22] <Dragonath> if you just write your password and hit enter you should be okay
[15:22] <Dragonath> since it usually starts there
[15:22] <jembouge> yes, that's what I guessed and did :)
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, ' fglrxinfo ' in the terminal
[15:22] <jembouge> but that still is a problem
[15:23] <jembouge> I can't show that to anyone and advertise linux at the same time, that's not good :D
[15:23] <youness> are you admin in your system
[15:24] <Dragonath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46101/
[15:25] <jembouge> youness, talking to whom?
[15:30] <martalli> I noticed something odd...I had an update today for my personal computer here at the office - upgrading OOo to 2.3.01-1ubuntu5.3, but when I ran apt-get dist upgrade on the other computers, they had no updates, even though they are on 1ubuntu5 still.
[15:31] <martalli> Are big updates like that (lots of downloading) rolled out over a day or so, maybe depending on some character of the system?
[15:31] <martalli> All of the computers have backports enabled in sources.list
[15:32] <martalli> I have been updating with the CLI through ssh, but in any case the other computers aren't showing the adept icon in tyhe panel, as they would if updates were available
[15:33] <youness> you config smb samba
[15:33] <stdin> martalli: the update is in gutsy-proposed
[15:35] <ThusLex1> meh, so now on the boot window it says "initrd.gz" when i choose to start ubuntu in the persistant mode....
[15:35] <ThusLex1> anyone know how to fix it?
[15:36] <matt-x11> How do I get my networking daemon / service (DHCP eth0) to start on boot? Whats the program called witrh an ncurses interface for editing debian daemons?
[15:36] <matt-x11> ie what services get started at boort
[15:38] <matt-x11> at the mo i have to do a '/etc/init.d/networking restart' to get connected
[15:38] <stdin> matt-x11: not sure what that is, haven't used it in a while. but the network config file is /etc/network/interfaces  it should have "auto eth0" if you want it so set that device up at boot
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, you may have to uninstall the old driver , then reconfigure the Xorg file to the generic vesa driver. Then renable the restricted driver after doing so....that's what I had to do to get 3D and DRI . In order to get rid of the old driver:Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the /usr/share/ati folder. Enter the command : sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[15:38] <matt-x11> stdin: it does say that, but still no networking at boot
[15:39] <matt-x11> AS I say, I have to run '/etc/init.d/networking restart' to get connected
[15:40] <Dragonath> and then just reinstall all from adept?
[15:40] <stdin> matt-x11: there is a GUI to configure the services, in system settings > advanced > system services
[15:40] <stdin> matt-x11: as a last resort you could add the command to /etc/rc.local, but that's not a nice workaround
[15:40] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, then in the terminal , sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:42] <BluesKaj> Dragonath, choose the vesa driver and reboot , then enable the restricted driver
[15:44] <matt-x11> stdin: I'm actually running xubuntu here, ands thew GNOME/GTK gui services manager doesn't even list a networking or DHCP service as an option. I wish i could remember the ncurses app i've used in the past for this
[15:44] <matt-x11> i think its on of the debian tools
[15:44] <stdin> matt-x11: I have too, just haven't needed to use it for ages so forgot about it... sure someone in #debian would know
[15:46] <angelo> s
[15:46] <qolo> how come I dont have the 'source' command anymore, how do I reload changes ( say to /etc/enviornment ) w/o rebooting ?
[15:47] <stdin> qolo: source is builtin to bash
[15:47] <stdin> bash and sh
[15:47] <angelo> who have any experience with mobility framework?
[15:48] <stdin> qolo: and a simple logout/in would work too
[15:48] <matt-x11> rcconf!
[15:48] <matt-x11> thats the tool i needed!
[15:48] <stdin> heh
[15:48] <mot_> sooo here's what happens in this video. check it (since it was removed from youtube and i can't find it)
[15:48] <mot_> wtf
[15:49] <mot_> http://phonephailure.ytmnd.com/
[15:49] <jhutchins> stdin: Um, don't we use dash?
[15:49] <stdin> jhutchins: /bin/sh = /bin/dash
[15:50] <matt-x11> hmmm, why doesn'y rcconf list anything like 'network' , 'dhcp' or 'eth0' as an option??
[15:50] <matt-x11> I'm running Feisty on PPC
[15:50] <matt-x11> how do i 'add' sevices to ubuntu?
[15:51] <methods> in gutsy can i use security as well as gutsy-security ?
[15:51] <stdin> matt-x11: do you have /etc/rcS.d/S40networking ?
[15:51] <stdin> methods: there is only gutsy-security
[15:52] <methods> so how do i get libgd2-dev then /
[15:53] <matt-x11> stdin: I do. Its just a link to /etc/init.d/networking
[15:53] <stdin> methods: try libgd-dev
[15:53] <stdin> matt-x11: then it is starting at boot, just before going into runlevel 2
[15:54] <stdin> well, not "just" before...
[15:54] <matt-x11> stdin: but te thing is that it doesn't start at boot which is why i'm here
[15:54] <stdin> matt-x11: does eth0 have an IP before you restart networking?
[15:55] <stdin> any IP
[15:55] <matt-x11> Maybe adding that commands to rc.local is my best bet after all?
[15:55] <stdin> it may be that for some reason it's just not working until too late in the boot process, so the 1st attempt to start networking fails
[15:55] <matt-x11> stdin: I'll have to check but i think it may
[15:56] <osman47> how can one sniff icq passwords is it possible with wireshark?
[15:56] <stdin> matt-x11: if it has an IP (but not the one you expect) that it's not getting a DHCP reply, but it is starting at boot
[15:56] <matt-x11> osman47: bit OT that
[15:56] <stdin> that will not be answered
[15:56] <osman47> OT?
[15:56] <stdin> !ot | osman47
[15:57] <osman47> !ot
[15:57] <ubotu> osman47: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[15:57] <stdin> !piracy
[15:57] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[15:57] <osman47> what is !ot?
[15:57] <stdin> read what ubotu says
[15:57] <matt-x11> ot = off topic
[15:58] <osman47> okay okay
[15:58] <hig> Hey
[15:59] <hig> kak na Rashin pereiti&
[15:59] <matt-x11> stdin: so how would you try to fix this without just adding a networking restart to rc.local?
[15:59] <qolo> stdin I dont have 'source'
[15:59] <hig> mama
[15:59] <stdin> matt-x11: delay the network starting (by renaming the symlink) or put another symlink in /etc/rc2.d I guess
[16:00] <janci> hi
[16:00] <stdin> qolo: what happens when you try?
[16:00] <matt-x11> stdin: What would be a good name iew wherein the boot process is it most likely to work?
[16:01] <stdin> matt-x11: easy way is to just copy the link from /etc/rcS.d/ to /etc/rc2.d/
[16:02] <matt-x11> Thanks stdin! I'll try that now!
[16:02] <ThusLex> stdin?
[16:02] <stdin> yes ThusLex
[16:02] <ThusLex> when i load linux off my usb key, at the boot screen when i choose to boot it in the persistant mode, a popup comes up saying initrd.gz and closes...
[16:03] <ThusLex> how do i fix this?
[16:03] <qolo> it says 'source' not found, nothing in apt repo's
[16:03] <stdin> ThusLex: I've never tried to boot from a usb stick so I don't know
[16:03] <stdin> qolo: and what does "echo $SHELL" say  ?
[16:06] <qolo> ./bin/bash
[16:06] <stdin> qolo: and what command are you trying to run?
[16:07] <qolo> source /etc/aliases
[16:07] <stdin> qolo: try just   ". /etc/aliases"              that is just replace the word "source" with "."
[16:08] <jhutchins> qolo: Are you trying to apply the aliases in /etc/aliases?
[16:09] <jhutchins> qolo: Generally, /etc/aliases is a list of aliases for email delivery on your system.
[16:09] <qolo> doh
[16:09] <qolo> yes, im trying to map cdx to 'cd /my/dir
[16:10] <qolo> where do i put aliases like that
[16:10] <jhutchins> Ok, in bash that would be done by .bashrc
[16:10] <stdin> just add "alias cdx='cd /my/dir'" to your ~/.bashrc
[16:10] <stdin> and type in "alias cdx='cd /my/dir'" to you shell if you don't want to have to resource it
[16:10] <jhutchins> qolo: You can just issue the command alias cdx='cd /my/dir', or as stdin says add it to .bashrc.
[16:11] <jhutchins> you do know that just cd or cd ~ will take you to your home directory, and cd - will take you to the previous directory?
[16:11] <qolo> cool thanks!
[16:11] <qolo> jhutchins: yes thx :)
[16:11] <hydrogen> not to mention pushd and popd
[16:12] <stdin> $CDPATH is good too
[16:12] <TimS> Are there any alternatives to bryce in the 4D graphics area?
[16:15] <osman47> where do the mf programms go when i installed them with adept manager
[16:15] <osman47> i installed a programm to crypt my passwords that they are sure but i cant find it!
[16:16] <bbm4n> guys where can i ask about a network problem in ubuntu?
[16:16] <bbm4n> what channel?
[16:16] <torch> where do the mf programms go when i installed them with adept manager
[16:16] <stdin> torch:  open adept, click on the package, click details and click on the "Installed Files" tab
[16:16] <torch> i installed a programm to crypt my passwords that they are sure but i cant find it!
[16:16] <stdin> !repeat | torch
[16:16] <ubotu> torch: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:16] <docuslap> hola
[16:16] <blendtux> i am looking for a good mindmapping tool any idea's
[16:16] <docuslap> problemas con el mldonkey
[16:16] <stdin> !es
[16:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:17] <torch> theinks
[16:17] <docuslap> ok thanks for the information
[16:19] <bbm4n> anyways i'll just ask here. does ubuntu ships with a firewall or something?
[16:19] <stdin> !firewall
[16:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[16:20] <bbm4n> thanks :D
[16:24] <ThusLex> anyone know about usb keys and ubuntu 7.10?
[16:26] <DaSkreech> bbm4n: Linux ships with a firewall
  ok i read the page but i cannot understand something
[16:27] <mrsno> ThusLex something must have went wrong with the steps
  how for example firefox connects normally if i haven't configured the build in firewall to open port 80?
[16:28] <mandrake> ciao
[16:28] <mandrake> come posso mettere il kde4 su kubuntu 7.10?
[16:28] <DaSkreech> bbm4n: It ships with a firewall. Doesn't mean it's turned on :)
  ohhhhhhh o_O
[16:29] <mrsno> ThusLex you could also check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent , which has a similar method
[16:29] <DaSkreech> bbm4n: it's shipped with a pretty free set of rules. distros don't normally play with it unless of course that's the point of teh Distro
[16:30] <DaSkreech> bbm4n: it's pretty granualr and involved not something you want the average citizen to play with.
[16:30] <ffwithf> buona sera
[16:30] <DaSkreech> very very powerful though
[16:30] <DaSkreech> bbm4n: http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[16:30] <stdin> !es | mandrake
[16:30] <ubotu> mandrake: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:31] <stdin> bah
[16:31] <stdin> !it
[16:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:31] <mandrake> sorry
  hehehheheh XD
[16:31] <ffwithf> good evening
[16:31] <DaSkreech> bbm4n: wonderful tool :)
[16:32] <DaSkreech> !hi | ffwithf
[16:32] <ubotu> ffwithf: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
 but i still dont get why i try to use nc for example, all the ports appear closed
  and i get something like connection refused
  like i do "sudo nc localhost 1111"
  and i get ".... :Connection refused"
[16:36] <jhutchins> what's nc s'posed to be?
[16:36] <stdin> bbm4n: that's probably because you don't have anything listening to port 1111 on your localhost
[16:36] <stdin> nc - TCP/IP swiss army knife
[16:36] <stdin> aka: netcat
[16:37] <DaSkreech> What's running on 1111 ?
[16:37] <jhutchins> Ah.
[16:37] <jhutchins> netcat I know.
[16:37] <bbm4n> nothing !
[16:37] <bbm4n> thats my problem!
[16:37] <stdin> what do you want to run on 1111 ?
[16:37] <jhutchins> bbm4n: Youhave to have something listening on 1111 in order to connect to it.
[16:37] <bbm4n> i want to do a file transfer and i am too bored to install sshd
[16:37] <bbm4n> XD
  i have done on a separate console "nc -l localhost"
[16:38] <stdin> bbm4n: well, for starters. there's a file sharing applet that you can put on kicker. and 2nd) you have to be root to open any port below 1024
[16:39] <jhutchins> stdin: 1111 is above 1024...
[16:39] <jhutchins> bbm4n: Perhaps you need to tell nc what port to listen on.
[16:40] <stdin> jhutchins: I'm pretty sure netcat doesn't listen to 1111, something lower
[16:41] <stdin> nope, I'm wrong  :p
[16:41] <stdin> netcat will listen to a random port
[16:42] <bbm4n> ok ok i fixed it!!!
[16:43] <bbm4n> wait to understand what i changed
[16:44] <bbm4n> looooooooool
[16:44] <bbm4n> i didn;t sudo while opening the port and i thought it was opened - i didn't got any warnings
[16:45] <bbm4n> and i was trying to connect on a port not-open
[16:45] <bbm4n> XD
[16:45] <bbm4n> loool it happens to me all the time
[16:45] <bbm4n> the forget to sudo problem
[16:46] <bbm4n> its like a remnant from my windows days :D
[16:46] <bbm4n> thanks guys :D
[16:50] <auctmore> on my kubuntu 7.10 ltsp 5.x installation only the master user from the kubuntu installation can login from a terminal.
[16:51] <ThusLex> anyone here with usb key and gutsy knowledge?
[16:54] <NickNak> ThusLex: what's the problem?
[16:54] <ThusLex> well i have been looking at this tutorial: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install
[16:55] <ThusLex> but all that happens is one the boot screen, it freezes
[16:55] <ThusLex> then I tried to change the partition thing from FAT16 to FAT32, how when i choose the persistant mode, a popup comes up saying initrd.gz and closes
[16:55] <ThusLex> i dont know what to do...
[16:56] <Dr_willis> im suprised someone hasent made a ububntu to usbpendrive tool yet. Or just made some sort of image you can copy to a usb drive.
[16:56] <Dr_willis> I donteven have a usb pen drive any more.. :( lost it.
[16:56] <genii> Dr_willis: There is
[16:56] <ThusLex> yeah, someone should
[16:56] <ThusLex> cos i can never get it to work :(
[16:56] <ThusLex> there is what genii?
[16:57] <Dr_willis> actually i do have a little 2.2 gb external mini-hd type usb drive. :)
[16:57] <genii> ThusLex: There is a usb sick/pendrive .img file in the repos
[16:57] <Dr_willis> wonder where it went. It has DSL on it
[16:57] <genii> *tick/pen
[16:57] <genii> bah typos
[16:57] <ThusLex> in the repos?
[16:58] <mrsno> ThusLex what happens when you follow the ubuntu documentation , on the link i pasted?
[16:59] <ThusLex> tell me the linik again...
[16:59] <ThusLex> i only followed this one: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install
[17:00] <Vermux> what is /dev/null ?
[17:00] <auctmore> is anyone here using ltsp 5.x on kubuntu 7.10 ?
[17:00] <mrsno> !persistant
[17:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about persistant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <mrsno> !usb
[17:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <Dr_willis> a device that you can copy to and everything that goes to it.. is gone. :)
[17:00] <mrsno> hmm, sec
[17:01] <mrsno> ThusLex https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:01] <ThusLex> wow
[17:01] <ThusLex> that is a lot of reading
[17:01] <Vermux> what is /dev/null ?
[17:02] <mandrake> hi
[17:02] <mandrake> can i have the italy chan again?
[17:02] <DaSkreech> !it
[17:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:02] <DaSkreech> Vermux: a black hole
[17:02] <mandrake> tnx
[17:02] <mrsno> ThusLex you will see most of the information is the same, with some changes near the end
[17:02] <Vermux> DaSkreech: ?
[17:03] <davide> itaiano?
[17:03] <DaSkreech> Vermux: It's a black hole
[17:03] <DaSkreech> !it
[17:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:03] <Vermux> DaSkreech: what do u mean?
[17:03] <DaSkreech> Vermux: You asked waht is /dev/null ?
[17:03] <genii> ThusLex: I previously used this way for 7.04 , should work equally as good with 7.10, just get the 7.10 .img file and so on https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[17:04] <senorpedro> does the new nvidia driver work now?
[17:04] <Vermux> DaSkreech: what do u mean black hole in this context?
[17:05] <jhutchins> !info orts2
[17:05] <ubotu> Package orts2 does not exist in gutsy
[17:05] <DaSkreech> Vermux: It's a black hole. Anythign put into /dev/null is never seen on this side of the event horizon
[17:05] <jhutchins> !find orts
[17:05] <ubotu> Found: linux-backports-modules, linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-server, linux-backports-modules-386 (and 16 others)
[17:05] <DaSkreech> It's just gone
[17:05] <Vermux> DaSkreech: is it a trash file?
[17:05] <jhutchins> you can also copy /dev/nul to various things.
[17:06] <jhutchins> Vermux: in unix systems, everythign can be delt with as a file.  /dev/nul is literally null.  It's nothing.
[17:06] <DaSkreech> Vermux: You can use it as such if you like
[17:06] <jhutchins> Vermux: If you copy something to it, that something is nowhere == gone.
[17:06] <jhutchins> Vermux: If you copy it to something, that something becomes full of nothing.
[17:07] <jhutchins> Vermux: If you pipe it to something, that something will become empty.
[17:07] <Vermux> jhutchins: Thanks. do u have an example why would u use it?
[17:08] <DaSkreech> Vermux: all of the above
[17:08] <jhutchins> dd if=/dev/nul of=/some/file bs=512 count=10 Gives you a ten block file of nulls (00).
[17:08] <auctmore> Vermux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_sink gives a full description
[17:08] <DaSkreech> When you need something to be nothing
[17:09] <Dr_willis> runsomecommandthatspitsoutlotsofoutput > /dev/null
[17:09] <Dr_willis> kills off the output.
[17:09] <jhutchins> I use it in script files when I don't want the output of a command to clutter the system up somewhere <command> > /dev/nul
[17:10] <Dr_willis> dd if=/dev/nul  of=/dev/hda  ------> will whipe out the hard drive also. :)
[17:10] <Dr_willis> dd if=/dev/urandom  of=/dev/hda  ------> will whipe out the hard drive also. :)
[17:10] <jhutchins> Some poor guy - might have been here, yesterday - was told to do "rm -rf /" and did.
[17:11] <medhat> hi
[17:11] <Vermux> jhutchins: who told him to do that?
[17:11] <stdin> try not to post those commands, even in a warning. someone's bound to try it
[17:11] <medhat> i  have problem
[17:12] <Vermux> Dr_willis: why would u have so much output that u wont need?
[17:12] <jhutchins> Vermux: Someone in another channel, apparently impatient with his newbishness.
[17:12] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  with scripting often you dont need the messages/warnings/whatever.
[17:12] <medhat> i see my hard drives in /media but when i get into it i found nothing
[17:12] <medhat> any one can help me with that
[17:12] <Vermux> Dr_willis: Ic
[17:12] <jhutchins> Vermux: If, for instance, you are running commands that have output as a nightly maintenance job, and you don't need to see the standard output.
[17:13] <DaSkreech> medhat: are they mounted?
[17:13] <Vermux> jhutchins: so why at first place u would want such output to be written. Wont u want output only in case something is wrong?
[17:13] <Dr_willis> then ya got /media and then theres media:/ in konqueror that shows different things.. (or is it just media:)
[17:14] <medhat> they were mounted but today i dont know
[17:14] <Dr_willis> Vermux,  could be the program you are using dosent work that way.
[17:14] <medhat> three is sda5 sda10 like usual
[17:14] <medhat> but empty
[17:14] <medhat> i cant see my data
[17:14] <Dr_willis> sounds to me like theya re not mounted.
[17:15] <ThusLex> mrsno can you send me that link again pleases?
[17:15] <jhutchins> Vermux: let's say you want to copy a list of files using a utility that always lists the files as it copies them.  You want to do it as a backup every night, and all you need to know is if it succeeded, not the whole list of files.
[17:15] <ThusLex> im now on linux so i can start
[17:15] <Dr_willis> medhat,   check in  media:/  see if the drives shiow up there.
[17:15] <Vermux> jhutchins: ok
[17:15] <jhutchins> Vermux: If you just do filcopier > /dev/nul, then only error messages will attempt to display.  Since there's no display, they'll go to email to you.
[17:15] <ThusLex> mrsno??
[17:16] <medhat> i dont know but while iam loggin in linux chck my drives and found errors in sda1 which windows system drive it hangs then i press ALt +ctrl +delet
[17:16] <medhat> and it log in
[17:16] <jhutchins> Vermux: Otherwise, you'd get the list of files, pluss any error messages lost in the email.
[17:16] <medhat> there is drives but empty drives
[17:16] <Vermux> jhutchins: ic
[17:16] <jhutchins> Vermux: Most software that is commonly used for maintenance eventually evolves a 'quiet' switch, but until it does, you can do that.
[17:17] <Dr_willis> medhat,  Hmm. these are windows drives that you are truing to access?
[17:17] <Vermux> jhutchins: do u mean that quite switch do the same thing, but it is part of the program?
[17:17] <medhat> all the drives are empty but linux system drive
[17:18] <genii> That didn't answer the q
[17:18] <medhat> yes some of them windows and there was ext3 too and its the same with it
[17:19] <mteren> hello
[17:19] <jhutchins> Vermux: Yes.
[17:19] <jhutchins> Vermux: Here's a three-line program that runs every night on my mail server:
[17:19] <jhutchins> # /usr/bin/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam > /dev/null 2>&1
[17:19] <jhutchins> /usr/bin/sa-learn --mbox --spam ~/mail/spam
[17:19] <jhutchins> cp -f ~/.spamt ~/mail/spam > /dev/null > /dev/null 2>&1
[17:20] <auctmore> is anyone here using ltsp 5.x on kubuntu 7.10 ?
[17:20] <jhutchins> With the first line commented like that, spamassassin learns from any of the messages in ~/mail/spam, then copies an empty mail folder on top of the file.
[17:20] <DaSkreech> !paste | jhutchins
[17:20] <ubotu> jhutchins: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:20] <DaSkreech> :-)
[17:20] <jhutchins> DaSkreech: Three lines, with warning.
[17:21] <medhat> is there any one can tell me how can i stop linux chk drives whil log in
[17:21] <DaSkreech> jhutchins: one warning with tongue in cheek
[17:21] <jhutchins> Vermux: as it stands now, it emails me a report that says something like "spamassassin learned from three messages".
[17:21] <jhutchins> Vermux: If I un-comment the first line, I don't get a report.
[17:21] <medhat> its chk drives every start and it taks so long times though it found many errors in windows system drive
[17:21] <jhutchins> Vermux: (... and comment the second).
[17:22] <mrsno> ThusLex https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent :)
[17:22] <Vermux> jhutchins: what is 2>&1
[17:22] <jhutchins> Vermux: For users who don't want a daily report, everythign goes to /dev/nul, but I want the report to make sure it's running.
[17:23] <jhutchins> Vermux: you have two output channels from a console program: stdout and stderr.  stdout is informational messages, stderr is error messages (these are determined by the programmer).
[17:24] <stdin> 2>&1 = stderr goes to the same channel as stdout
[17:24] <ThusLex> well mrsno i have another problem
[17:24]  * stdin knows about this stuff ;)
[17:24] <ThusLex> it says this
[17:24] <jhutchins> just plain '>' redirects stdout, but not stderr.  2> redirects stderr.  2>&1 says "combine stderr and stdout and redirect it.
[17:24] <ThusLex> make sure (via fdisk -l) you created a w95/fat and not a linux partition,
[17:24] <ThusLex> does tht mean at least 1 partition has to be FAT?
[17:24] <mrsno> ThusLex your question sparked some interest, so im following the ubuntu guide myself now
[17:25] <ThusLex> cos i have partition 1 set as FAT16 and partition 2 set as Linux
[17:25] <ThusLex> is that ok?
[17:25] <jhutchins> Vermux: loads more at http://tldp.org
[17:25] <jhutchins> Vermux: I'm gonna go be a plumber for a day.
[17:25] <Vermux> jhutchins: redirect it into file &1?
[17:25] <mrsno> its the other way around ThusLex , partition 1 being fat32 , partition 2 being fat16
[17:25] <stdin> Vermux: &1 means channel 1, stdout
[17:25] <jhutchins> Vermux: 2>&1 says "combine to same output as 1 (stdout)".
[17:25] <ThusLex> the windows 95 fat 32 right?
[17:25] <jhutchins> Vermux: which is usually already redirected in most uses.
[17:26] <genii> ThusLex: syslinux needs a fat16 or fat12 or such
[17:26] <mrsno> ThusLex the guide isn't really specific, maybe try sudo gparted to do the partitioning stage, after choosing the usb pen
[17:26] <genii> syslinux doesn't like fat32
[17:26] <mrsno> older syslinux doesn't like fat32, but thats why the guide mentions using fat16 for the 2nd partition
[17:27] <ThusLex> gparted?
[17:27] <ThusLex> never tried that
[17:28] <mrsno> gparted is a gui for parted, instead of using fdisk
[17:28] <Dr_willis> Gparted live cd is a must have for a PC toolbox. :)
[17:29] <sdlnxgk> when running firefox after a firefox auto upgrade I get this error message Segmentation fault (core dumped) then firefox quits... HELP !!!
[17:29] <Vermux> jhutchins: thanks
[17:29] <ThusLex> wow
[17:29] <ThusLex> a gui version
[17:29] <ThusLex> thats better :D
[17:29] <Dr_willis> firefox auto upgrade? what ya mean Auto Upgrade?
[17:30] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, I mean I set  firefox to update without asking
[17:30] <ThusLex> erm, which one does the 750MB go into ?
[17:30] <ThusLex> the Free Space Preceding, New Size, Free Space Following?
[17:30] <sdlnxgk> so it just popped up a windows and upgraded then restarted firefox and BAM now I have a problem
[17:30] <Dr_willis> forefox downloaded and upgrade its self? i thought that was disabled for  the ubuntu firefox.
[17:31] <ThusLex> mrsno?
[17:31] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, has been working great for me till now
[17:31] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  makes me wionder what it actually upgraded. since a user dosent have rights to  write to the system files.
[17:31] <Dr_willis> try a different user see if it affexts them also.
[17:31] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm let me try that :)
[17:32] <Dr_willis> unless of course your user some how installed a version of firefox just for theirselfs.
[17:33] <sdlnxgk> I did
[17:33] <sdlnxgk> opps
[17:33] <ThusLex> meh mrsno????
[17:33] <sdlnxgk> I did the 'apt-get install firefox' and after that worked great
[17:35] <sdlnxgk> I thought about just deleting the .mozilla folder and let it make a new one and see if that works and backing up the old one of course ;)
[17:36] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  that was my next suggestion
[17:36] <mrsno> ThusLex for the first partition, type in 750 for "following" , and that will create partition 1 , then leave space for partition 2
[17:36] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, I just clicked on the desktop icon for firefox and it said can't find mozilla-firefox but tried to load it wierd stuff here
[17:37] <mrsno> ThusLex be very careful as partitioning mistakes can cause all sorts of unbootable problems, be 100% sure of what you are doing
[17:37] <Dr_willis> firefox ran as a user should not be 'auto updating' the firefox thats isntalled on the system.   - Im thinking you are doing some weird things.. heh heh..
[17:37] <Dr_willis> sdlnxgk,  i would say move the .firefox dir. and try running firefox from the terminal.
[17:37] <Darkrift411> question: I have a game where alt + right click does something, but linux is overriding it by trying to move the window when i do this. How can i disable the alt + click in linux so that it gets passed to my game?
[17:37] <Dr_willis> or is it .mozilla  i never can rember
[17:37] <ThusLex> anyone know how to use gparted?
[17:38] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis,  doing that as we speak ..
[17:38] <Dr_willis> Darkrift411,  ive seen that asked onece or twice befor.. I always just log into with a different window manager that dosent have that feature. :)
[17:38] <medhat> hi
[17:38] <Darkrift411> ouch
[17:38] <Darkrift411> might be easier to edit the game source to use a diff key :)(
[17:38] <Darkrift411> :( *
[17:40] <Dr_willis> There may be a kde etting to disable it.  but ive never noticed. I cant rember any game that used alt-rightclick
[17:40] <Dr_willis> alt-left click - i thought moved a window.
[17:40] <Dr_willis> I though that got ignored if the window was fullscreened/maxamized also
[17:41] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis,  hmmmmm I renamed .mozilla to .mozilla.bak and it created a new one and seems to be working now
[17:41] <Darkrift411> its world of warcraft
[17:41] <Dr_willis> Darkrift411,  I aint touching this then.. :) lol.
[17:41] <Darkrift411> and when i use alt-right click, it messes up the game sizing badly, and sometimes moves the window
[17:42] <Darkrift411> its ok, im editing the user interface to make it look for ctrl alt (hope this will act diff)
[17:42] <Dr_willis> Its WoW in wine..  :) heh...
[17:42] <Darkrift411> yeah
[17:42] <Dr_willis> there may be a kde setting to disable it.. ibe just never seen it.  #kde may know exactly where its at.
[17:42] <Darkrift411> wine rocks too
[17:42] <Dr_willis> when i last tried big games in wine. i always used a very veyr light widnow manager like icewm, or so forth that had minimal features.
[17:43] <Dr_willis> of course now a days i dont even bother with wine
[17:43] <Dr_willis> :P
[17:43] <Dr_willis> i wonder if Lord Of The Rings Online works with wine
[17:43] <Darkrift411> I added an "and (IsControlKeyDown())" to the code, adn ill test it now :_)
[17:43] <Darkrift411> wine rocks, so probably
[17:44] <Dr_willis> But im playing BioShock and Crysis at the moment.. so... those may push it a little hard.
[17:44] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[17:44] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis,  never played games with just wine I have been using Cedega for about year now with no problelms
[17:44] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis, thanks for the help
[17:45] <sdlnxgk> I'm out too gotta fix that MC now we got the browser all fixed and I can look up parts
[17:48] <ThusLex> lol
[17:48] <ThusLex> ok  i now have another problem
[17:48] <ThusLex> mrsno ????
[17:48] <ThusLex> i kinda need your help now
[17:49] <anto_> guys
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: whats the problem?
[17:50] <anto_> when i try and activate my wireless internet it says the default gateway is not valid
[17:50] <virnik> hi there
[17:50] <virnik> i have installed kubuntu gutsy on my friends computer
[17:50] <virnik> but she got really crappy graphic card
[17:50] <virnik> after last upgrade
[17:50] <virnik> something have installed
[17:50] <anto_> virnik: You got a nvidia card?
[17:51] <virnik> and now, her system is really slow, all 3D effect, blur and so is active
[17:51] <virnik> i have switched all shadows and animations off
[17:51] <genii> anto_: It's because at the time you go to set the gateway as wlan0 or so, it is not yet connected and so gets put as 0.0.0.0
[17:51] <ThusLex> nosrednaekim im on this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:51] <virnik> but it is like this still
[17:51] <ThusLex> two things
[17:51] <ThusLex> Download the Ubuntu image (for example, ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso) or put in the install CD if you have it. If you use the downloaded image you can access it as follows (supposing that the image is in the cuurent directory):
[17:51] <virnik> can somebody tell me, which package shall I uninstall, to switch it off?
[17:51] <anto_> genii: how do i set it then ?
[17:51] <ThusLex> i dont fancy downloading it again
[17:51] <ThusLex> and i have it on a cd but im using the cd to do what it tells me....
[17:52] <Darkrift411> Anyone here know how to change KDE's key combo functions (namely alt+mouse click to move/resize windows) ??
[17:52] <BluesKaj> virnik, which graphics card ?
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: ok...
[17:52] <anto_> virnik: maybe you started compiz?
[17:52] <genii> anto_: If you know the network number eg: something like 192.168.0.X or 192.168.2.x or so on, put there as the gateway the same 3 first numbers as the ip the wireless receives and last number of 1
[17:52] <ThusLex> well are there anyother ways to do it?
[17:53] <anto_> genii: 192.168.0.26 is the number to my router
[17:53] <ThusLex> suppose i could use window for it
[17:53] <ThusLex> nevermind
[17:53] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: you can just cpoy the iso on the CD to your disc.
[17:53] <genii> anto_: Alternately, set another adapter momentarily as the route, enable the wireless, then go back into the configuration and there should be now a viable number for route there (usually)
[17:54] <genii> anto_: If the router IP is known, use that
[17:54] <virnik> BluesKaj: ati radeon 7k
[17:54] <virnik> anto_: no...sure not
[17:55] <ThusLex> nosrednaekim: im using a CD with the contects of the .iso in it
[17:55] <virnik> anto_: I am running compiz or beryl on every my station, even on notebook. but her pc is really weak, so i didnt installed such thing
[17:55] <ThusLex> can i get them off the cd while im using linux from the cd?
[17:55] <anto_> genii: i'm trying to set the router ip to 192.168.0.26 but it keeps saying invalid gate way
[17:55] <anto_> virnik: try and run kpersonlizer and the turn down the effects
[17:56] <ThusLex> ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: you should probably just do it from windows..
[17:56] <BluesKaj> virnik , system settings/advanced/resticted drivers/admin mode/enable..relogin
[17:56] <genii> anto_: x.x.x.26 is not normally a gateway number
[17:56] <ThusLex> ok
[17:56] <ThusLex> brb
[17:56] <anto_> genii: it it possible to override then?
[17:57] <genii> anto_: Almost always it is x.x.x.1    however, you may have manually set the router or such to be x.x.x.26, i do not know. If so then likely the ip numbers it is handing out have an improper range /subnet mask to be using x.x.x.26 as a gateway IP
[17:58] <genii> anto_: In this case I would recommend to go administer your router to be another IP which ends in .1 and a mask of 255.255.255.0
[17:59] <genii> (for the dhcp clients)
[18:01] <anto_> genii: i got it save the configuration runing with 192.168.0.26
[18:01] <anto_> genii: but when i try and access google it still does not work
[18:02] <Barbarello> Hi! Cant get internet access via ppp ( I'd refresh connect configuration via pppoeconf, but nothing changes. The Ifconfig shows that eth0 interface is enabled and i see my own ip-address. But Conqueror and Kopete isnt working ( Ping cant get any url ( What can be wrong?
[18:03] <ThusLex> nosrednaekim: im on window vista now but when i put my usb key in it only shows partition one...
[18:03] <ThusLex> the ubuntu partition
[18:03] <ThusLex> it doesnt show the casper-rw partition
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> Barbarello: try pinging "74.125.19.147"
[18:03] <Darkrift411> Anyone here know how to change KDE's key combo functions (namely alt+mouse click to move/resize windows) ??
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift411: maybe try #kde
[18:04] <Darkrift411> hrmmm, good idea
[18:04] <ThusLex> noserednaekim?
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: erm...
[18:05] <ThusLex> or dont i put anything in the casper-rw?
[18:06] <virnik> anto_: thx. your help worked.
[18:06] <anto_> virnik: No problems mate i did the same thing a while ago
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: I think you copy the whole CD to casper-rw
[18:06] <Barbarello> nosrednaekim: what an address? )) U advised me just to ping ip? Where the difference?
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> ThusLex: i'm sorry, i've never done it..
[18:07] <ThusLex> ok np
[18:07] <Barbarello> nosrednaekim: Hey, thats google )
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> Barbarello: the difference is in the DNS....go try that ip
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> Barbarello: it came back?
[18:07] <Barbarello> nosrednaekim: no.  pinged via XP.
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> Barbarello: try pinging it with linux, if it goes thrigh,it means you need to add a DNS
[18:08] <Barbarello> nosrednaekim: So,  you're think the dns-server not responsing me? How to add a DNS?
[18:09] <mrsno> brb ,testing pen boot :)
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> Barbarello: I think you don't HAVE a dns.
[18:09] <Barbarello> nosrednaekim: How to get it?
[18:10] <genii> anto_: Try to ping som IP number on the internet. If you can ping one, likely now it is a DNS issue and not a route/gateway issue
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> Barbarello: well, i'm sure there is a way in kppp, but you can always add one to your /etc/resolv.conf after connecting.
[18:10] <genii> /back
[18:10]  * genii sips
[18:11] <anto_> genii: pinged google 100% package loss
[18:11] <anto_> but if i connect the cable to the laptop the internet works
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> anto_: ping "74.125.19.147"
[18:11] <TimS> How can I find the IP of a website out?
[18:12] <anto_> nosrednaekim:  100% package loss
[18:12] <Barbarello> TimS: ping url
[18:12] <anto_> but on google it said somthing about "unknown host"
[18:12] <anto_> nosrednaekim: so it must be somthing dns/route wrong then ?
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> anto_: if the IP worked and the url didn't... yes
[18:13] <genii> anto_: Actually, first I would recommend to try:   ping 192.168.0.26            from konsole. It may ping it, or time out, or tell you no route to it, or something informative. If it pings ok and is set as gateway then try after that to ping some ip on the internet at large
[18:14] <anto_> nosrednaekim: when i ping 192.168.0.26/74.125.19.147 i get 100% package loss +1error
[18:14] <anto_> genii: when i ping 192.168.0.26/74.125.19.147 i get 100% package loss +1error
[18:14] <genii> anto_: But I would strongly advise to set the router IP to something other than the odd one it is at now, then there is no oddball messing with netmasks and dhcp ranges etc etc etc
[18:14] <vit____> hola
[18:15] <genii> anto_: See my above comment then
[18:15] <anto_> genii: thats not realy an option
[18:15] <genii> anto_: What ip is the computer getting from the router?
[18:15] <anto_> genii: 169.254.11.13
[18:16] <genii> anto_: If you don't have administrative access to the router it makes me wonder if you are allowed to use it, frankly.
[18:16] <anto_> genii: its school
[18:16] <genii> anto_: any IP which starts 169.254 which comes from dhcp client is fake ip
[18:16] <anto_> they give all studends access to the wireless internet
[18:16] <anto_> maybe i got the wrong wep key?
[18:17] <genii> anto_: Make sure you have correct essid to connect to and of course wep key if it uses that, etc etc
[18:17] <genii> anto_: the man page for iwconfig may be useful to you
[18:17] <StuSel> s
[18:25] <anto_> genii: never under estimate the power of opensource and come cool guys in a irc channel :D:D
[18:26] <Elgerton> Hi all
[18:26]  * Elgerton wves
[18:26]  * Elgerton waves
[18:26] <anto_> -waves back-
[18:27] <genii> anto_: You have it pinging now?
[18:27] <anto_> genii: its working perfectly now
[18:28] <genii> anto_: Great :)
[18:29] <BluesKaj> !cookie | genii
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !helpernack | genii
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helpernack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <BluesKaj> coffee for genii!
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> !helpersnack | genii
[18:29] <ubotu> genii: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[18:29] <anto_> uhm weird now it stoped working
[18:31]  * genii munches his cookie
[18:31] <needles> for anyone who wants to edit icewm or fluxbox menu's easily, aha, there is menumaker
[18:31] <needles> just thought id share
[18:33] <genii> anto_: Can you ping gateway? Maybe signal is a bit weak where you are, cuts in/out etc
[18:39] <genii> !ping
[18:39] <ubotu> pong
[18:39] <ardchoille> How do you get dolphin to "view hidden files" across sessions? I set it up in the config dialog but it loses that setting when I quit dolphin.
[18:39] <genii> Hmm not ghosted then
[18:45] <Martino> hi
[18:46] <Martino> please tell me how to install cedega im really noob
[18:46] <roberto> sono nuovo dell'irc qualcuno mi dà informazioni?
[18:52] <genii> !cedega
[18:52] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[18:53] <pacman> quick question
[18:53] <pacman> I'm trying to create a document on openoffice, and I want to flip the page sideways
[18:54] <pacman> Isn't there an option for "landscape" somewhere on here?
[18:55]  * stdin waits for ooO to open to check
[18:56] <stdin> pacman: Format -> Page -> Landscape
[18:57] <sha384sum> anyone home today?
[18:58] <sha384sum> Not sure if I have kubuntu problem or OOo problem. Upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 today and OOo no longer has icons. Just text in the menus and toolbars.
[19:00] <ubuntu__> hello
[19:01] <ubuntu__> i might need a little help here.
[19:02] <ubuntu__> I've been trying to install kubuntu 7.10 to my computer, and the installer does not find any harddrives, so the installation stops in to partition sektion. any ideas?
[19:09] <savetheWorld> wow
[19:13] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu__ you trying to install this onto a hard disk that has one big ntfs partition?
[19:33] <melkor> I have ffmpeg and I need to add support for m4a, do I need to download the source and rebuild it all?
[19:33] <inteliwasp> Is there a program that can let me see the size of files and directories?
[19:34] <genii> ls
[19:35] <inteliwasp> ... i think i should reword that... i mean sort if like treemap or millionvis
[19:36] <ScorpKing> du -h /dir
[19:36] <emilsedgh> inteliwasp: Konqueror
[19:36] <emilsedgh> inteliwasp: maybe you will like it, take a look
[19:36] <emilsedgh> inteliwasp: go to Konqueror->View Modes->file Size View
[19:38]  * genii hands ScorpKing a coffee
[19:38]  * ScorpKing take a sip..
[19:38] <ScorpKing> ty genii :)
[19:38] <inteliwasp> emilsedgh: thanks, i have been looking for something like this for a long time :)
[19:39] <genii> ScorpKing: anytime
[19:39] <emilsedgh> inteliwasp: Konqueror Rocks! :P
[19:43] <ScorpKing> welcome BluesKaj. ;)
[19:43] <BluesKaj> howdy ScorpKing :)
[19:44] <BluesKaj> gotta work from windows for a bit while decrypting a dvd which doesn't seem to work on K9copy
[19:46] <genii> BluesKaj: I've found generally dvd95 works better
[19:46] <BluesKaj> dvd9? genii
[19:46] <genii> !info dvd95
[19:46] <ubotu> dvd95: DVD9 to DVD5 converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2p0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 253 kB, installed size 564 kB
[19:46] <BluesKaj> thot that was for doublelayered disks
[19:46] <iwizzard> Hi tried to get Nvidia to work in 7.10 using a script i found, i did not. No I only have text input = not good. How do I get GUI back?
[19:47] <ScorpKing> ty genii. i was looking for that.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> thx for the heads up genii..gonna give it a shot
[19:49] <emilsedgh> iwizzard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:51] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[19:52] <Minataku> DVD9 is dual layer DVD
[19:53] <BluesKaj> Minataku, dvd95 seems to be what genii was talking about
[19:55] <carwash^> Hi, my Xorg is eating a lot of cpu on a gutsy install with a nvidiacard and the nvidia-glx-new. Any ideas why?
[20:08] <BluesKaj> carwash^, what app is monitoring the cpu ?
[20:08] <carwash^> using top
[20:08] <carwash^> but i also notive X being slow. Dragging windows lags for example
[20:10] <BluesKaj> carwash^, try htop ..it lists all ongoing processes
[20:10] <carwash^> htop is basically just top with ncurses
[20:14] <BluesKaj> well maybe but it shows more processes and how much memory or cpu is being used
[20:16] <carwash^> X still eats lots and lots of cpu no matter how i try to measure it
[20:17] <carwash^> it's also noticably slow under use
[20:17] <martalli> stdin: Is there a reason not to use gutsy-proposed?  Is it beta-level software?
[20:17] <martalli> It seems like for the office, I will jst stick with the backports
[20:21] <stdin> martalli: it goes in -proposed before it gets in to -updates
[20:21] <stdin> for testing
[20:22] <carwash^> will i have to remove nvidia-glx-new before i do a manual install of the nvidia drivers?
[20:22]  * bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.
[20:23] <tekteen> carwash^: yes
[20:23] <martalli> I guess I will just let the office staff wait for the magic of OOo 2.3.0.1-1ubuntu5.3
[20:26] <kalorin> anyone had much luck going from feisty to gusty and letting it do the upgrade
[20:26] <kalorin> I tried several weeks ago and it blew up my machine
[20:26] <kalorin> thinking about trying on this machine at work now
[20:26] <kalorin> wondering if things have gotten any better?
[20:26] <bobfarley> how did you go about the upgrade ?
[20:29] <kalorin> just clicked the little triangle caution thing that said that there were new things
[20:29] <kalorin> and said go ahead ndad do the dist upgrade
[20:29] <kalorin> had some kind of dependency loop and blew up
[20:29] <kalorin> that machine of course had a new nvidia card in it rather than the olde rati one thttttat I had been usin
[20:30] <kalorin> and it might have been graphics drivers that were tough on it I guss
[20:32] <stevie2k> hi @all
[20:32] <Kloeschen> join #cedega
[20:32] <Kloeschen> sorry
[20:32] <tekteen> hey stevie
[20:33] <stevie2k> anyone here who can help me get an nvidia fx5200 to work with glx?
[20:33] <tekteen> does it need glx?
[20:33] <stevie2k> I want to check the 3d desktop things...
[20:33] <stevie2k> compiz etc
[20:33] <tekteen> Most nvidia use something built into X.Org
[20:34] <tekteen> AIGLX?
[20:34] <stevie2k> the standard "nv" driver works quite well...
[20:34] <tekteen> !aiglx
[20:34] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[20:34] <stevie2k> oh.. i check this ...
[20:35] <stevie2k> the standard "nv" driver does not support GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap
[20:35] <stevie2k> which is neede for AIGLX
[20:35] <tekteen> ok
[20:35] <tekteen> to install xgl ...
[20:35] <stevie2k> (I am quite a noob - just working since one week with kubuntu 7.10)
[20:35] <melkor> Is anybody runnin' kde4?
[20:35] <tekteen> open a konsole
[20:36] <tekteen> then type "sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl"
[20:36] <agruman> If im not mistaken, the hd2xxx cards also supports AIGLX now with the latest drivers
[20:36] <uwo> hi all - question - if i install kde 4 rc, does that replace kde 3 or can i choose which one i log on to?
[20:36] <stevie2k> the newest version is installed...
[20:36] <tekteen> stevie2k: just try running compiz
[20:37] <emilsedgh> uwo: no it will not afect your current kde3 and applications
[20:37] <tekteen> if it does not work... install xgl
[20:37] <uwo> emilsedgh:tnx. will try it :)
[20:37] <stevie2k> the screen gets completely white and nothing else happens...
[20:37] <stevie2k> I just tried it...
[20:37] <stevie2k> I had to restart x...
[20:37] <tekteen> u mean if u run compiz ?
[20:37] <stevie2k> yeah
[20:37] <tekteen> ok
[20:38] <agruman> is there some iso out there which doesnt do a graphical install and that supports usb keyboards?
[20:38] <stevie2k> or - wait a moment - i give it another try... but if it doesn't work I'll be back after X is restarted :-)
[20:38] <tekteen> agruman: does the alternative install cd?
[20:39] <agruman> tekteen, what do you mean?
[20:39] <stevie2k> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[20:39] <stevie2k> No whitelisted driver found
[20:39] <stevie2k> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[20:39] <stevie2k> no compiz with standard nv driver...
[20:40] <stevie2k> I even tried envy but this does not change anything...
[20:40] <ardchoille> agruman: the alternate install cd is a text-based installer and supports usb keyboards and mice.. I've used it on older machines
[20:41] <tekteen> agruman: the non graphical install cd is the "altenative install cd"
[20:41] <agruman> ah thanks alot
[20:42] <bobfarley> agruman  if you haven't tried the alternate install disk, you should.  don't let the word "alternate" throw you off
[20:42] <bobfarley> alternate = better
[20:42] <agruman> i believe my gfx is whats causing my rig to crash
[20:42] <agruman> bobfarley hehe :)
[20:42] <agruman> oh i wont be intimidated by a text mode installation
[20:43] <agruman> thanks for the info guys, i realy appretiate it.
[20:50] <t4m1n0> helo there
[20:51] <tekteen> hello
[20:51] <t4m1n0> I know this isn't kubuntu theme, but how would I in open office found this string: /* bla lbalblablbl something */
[20:52] <tekteen> t4m1n0: I am looking :-)
[20:53] <t4m1n0> tekteen, I found this one: http://ostermiller.org/findcomment.html
[20:53] <t4m1n0> tekteen, but this isn't directly for open office
[20:53] <tekteen> what are u trying to do?
[20:56] <t4m1n0> tekteen, I I am trying to mar from /* to */
[20:56] <t4m1n0> even if there is line break
[20:56] <t4m1n0> for example:
[20:56] <tekteen> mar?
[20:57] <t4m1n0> like this:      /* dfa dsf sf adf af af asdfs
[20:57] <t4m1n0>  dfasef sdf sf asfd af   // sddfs f */
[20:57] <t4m1n0> and when this will be marked I will underline this
[20:57] <tekteen> I do not think I can help u.
[20:58] <jhutchins> t4m1n0: vim will do that automatically.
[20:58] <t4m1n0> jhutchins, I need to record an macro in open office
[20:58] <t4m1n0> and I'm running out of time
[21:08] <carwash^> ok, i just tried installing the binary nvidia drivers (beta) from the nvidia site. The drivers install ok, but on running X i get the error "nvidia device not found". Any help?
[21:18] <MementoMori> does anyone use virtualbox here?
[21:18] <carwash^> MementoMori: sure
[21:20] <MementoMori> carwash^: do you use nat networking or host interface?
[21:20] <carwash^> both actually
[21:20] <carwash^> but host was a pain to set up
[21:21] <genii> !info nvidia-kernel-common | carwash^
[21:21] <ubotu> carwash^: nvidia-kernel-common: NVIDIA binary kernel module common files. In component restricted, is optional. Version 20051028+1ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 5 kB, installed size 112 kB
[21:21] <carwash^> genji: i installed the betadriver from nvidia and it compiled and installed its own kernelmodeule
[21:22] <MementoMori> carwash^: when you use host interface does your guest os have a "public" ip? with public I mean an ip that other lan hosts can connect to
[21:22] <carwash^> MementoMori: as far as i remember, yes
[21:22] <carwash^> you could also do port forwarding in NAT-mode if you want access to your virtual machine
[21:22] <carwash^> its all explained in the wiki on the virtualbox page
[21:23] <MementoMori> carwash^: this is good. Can you help me configuring such a beast?
[21:23] <venik> any experts on Thuderbird here?  I am having trouble reading messages with it
[21:23] <MementoMori> carwash^: in the doc I read they say to create a brigde an tap devices
[21:23] <venik> they appear blank
[21:23] <venik> but they are ok under WINDOWS
[21:23] <carwash^> apt-get install brctl bridge-utils
[21:24] <carwash^> brctrl new br0 or something like that, i think its in the wiki...
[21:24] <MementoMori> carwash^: but when you create a bridge you'll share the brigde ip with the devices (eth0, tapX)
[21:25] <MementoMori> this way my guest os has an ip but no host in my lan can ping it
[21:25] <carwash^> you can have seperate ips on the bridge interface and the real interfaces as far as i can remember
[21:25] <manu_> lst
[21:25] <mib_> need help with kdevelop ? where can i find a debugger/compiler in the app itself, are there any gui features for that (sorry if too noob)
[21:26] <carwash^> mib_: gdb is what's used. I'm not really sure if there's a good frontend
[21:26] <MementoMori> carwash^: I use dhcp in my lan. I'd like to have eth and tap working with dhcp too
[21:26] <carwash^> dhclient br0 should get the bridge an ip, but i really cant remember :/
[21:27] <carwash^> let me see if i have the setup on this pc or the other
[21:27] <nodesert> does anyone know why i can not download wine with apt-get install wine on gusty?
[21:27] <MementoMori> carwash^: thank you
[21:28] <agruman> I have now tried the alternative install cd, however my usb keyboard doesnt work there :( (I dont come any longer then the "menu"). It doesnt work in the "normal" installation cd either, but the timeout there "saves" me, though the installation crashes when X is started. So anyone have any suggestion to what to do?
[21:28] <mib_> @carw, do you kdevelop is a good solution for c development, are there better apps (ecplipe, anjuta?)
[21:28] <MementoMori> nodesert: you need to turn universe repository on
[21:28] <genii> nodesert: What is the error it gives
[21:28] <carwash^> agruman: go into your bios and enable usb legacy support
[21:28] <nodesert> how can i do this?
[21:28] <genii> MementoMori: Ah, right
[21:29] <levon> hey guys how are you? i need some assistance i have a older laptop that lags really bad with my os its mepis 6.5 i was wondering what would run real sweet on this computer? and if i can help out by showing you what hardware i have i would need a grep command to list my cpu info ram info and my wireless card is nice atheros so that should be detected no problems
[21:29] <carwash^> mib_: never really used kdevelop, i hear people like eclipse, but it's HUGE
[21:29] <agruman> carwash^, yeah i would if i had that setting. But i dont (which sucks)
[21:29] <MementoMori> levon: give xubuntu a try
[21:29] <MementoMori> agruman: try searching for a bios update
[21:29] <nodesert> genii: how can i turn universe repository?
[21:30] <levon> sounds good
[21:30] <MementoMori> nodesert: from adept manager
[21:30] <carwash^> MementoMori: can't really remember what i was doing, but here's the script that enables it
[21:30] <carwash^> http://pastebin.com/m78ea40b1
[21:30] <MementoMori> carwash^: thank you
[21:31] <carwash^> np
[21:31] <agruman> MementoMori, yeah i guess that would be the next logical step. Though my mobo is only approx a year old. (and supposed to be a high class mobo too :/)
[21:31] <mib_> carwash: yes, think so too, i'll try kdev, think it would do it
[21:31] <mib_> thx
[21:31] <dim_> elinas re
[21:32] <agruman> carwash^ and MementoMori thanks for the info.
[21:32] <genii> carwash^: Out of curiosity are you running x86_64 or amd64, etc
[21:33] <nodesert> MementoMori: i m newbie.So i can not turn my repository universe
[21:33] <MementoMori> !universe
[21:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:33] <dim_> Κανένας Ελληνας??????/
[21:33] <carwash^> genii: i386
[21:33] <MementoMori> !universe | nodesert
[21:33] <ubotu> nodesert: please see above
[21:33] <stdin> !gr | dim_
[21:33] <ubotu> dim_: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[21:33] <MementoMori> nodesert: would you please follow the link?
[21:34] <nodesert> ok thanks
[21:34] <carwash^> brb
[21:34] <dim_> Efharisto......
[21:34] <genii> carwash^: According to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html all the drivers there are for 64 bit platforms (excepting ia32 and freebsdx86)
[21:35] <kalorin> anyone know a good hex editor?
[21:35] <kalorin> I used to use ultra edit and it was fantastic, I wish that Kate or something else did as well as ultra edit
[21:35] <kalorin> not even sure how to get vi to display in hex
[21:35] <stdin> !info kexedit
[21:35] <ubotu> Package kexedit does not exist in gutsy
[21:36] <stdin> !info khexedit
[21:36] <ubotu> khexedit: KDE hex editor. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 375 kB, installed size 1184 kB
[21:36] <stdin> if I could type...
[21:36] <kalorin> ok thanks
[21:37] <moofoo> hello, is there a ready vmware player deb for gutsy?
[21:37] <stdin> kalorin: "apt-cache search hex | grep edit" turns up a few results too
[21:37] <stdin> moofoo: vmware is a bit broken on gutsy, give virtualbox a go
[21:37] <boubbin> is possible to make firefox use qt engine when operning files from my local harddrive ?
[21:38] <boubbin> opening even
[21:39] <bobfarley> shankargopal should look at updating that
[21:39] <moofoo> stdin: hm ok.. just have to find a way to convert the image i suppose
[21:40] <moofoo> hmm.. while installing virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.22-14-generic i got chown: `:vboxusers': invalid group  .. * Cannot change owner vboxusers for device /dev/vboxdrv
[21:45] <carwash^> just for future reference. if aybody is logging, modprobe options tried to load the nvidia kernel module with a bunch of deprecated options, making the module fail at loadtime. loading the nvidia kernel module without any options at all everything works (kubuntu gutsy 106.49 beta nvidia driver i386)
[21:45] <MementoMori> moofoo: no fear. just add vboxusers to the system groups (if it still doesnt exist)
[21:46] <plisken> hi
[21:46] <carwash^> the black window bug is, however, as frequent as with the older drivers
[21:51] <moofoo> MementoMori: it was actually due to the missing device.. (module not loaded before the operation or what ever)
[21:52] <qolo> plisken:
[21:53] <plisken> hi
[21:53] <TimS> Someone/#kubuntu pang
[21:53] <qolo> you pinged ?
[21:53] <[WarMage]> okay who pinged me
[21:53] <plisken> yes
[21:53] <plisken> my first time in irc
[21:53] <qolo> plisken pinged everyone :S
[21:53] <bmk789> ?
[21:53]  * genii wonders if we're in for another CTCP flood
[21:53] <TimS> plisken: did you ping the entire channel
[21:53] <plisken> sorry
[21:53] <TimS> Never ping a channel
[21:53] <plisken> ok
[21:54] <corinth> Kaffeine crashes when I try to play a DVD. Mplayer does not. Help?
[21:54] <kenplis> hi
[21:55] <MementoMori> he said this is his first irc session ;) he did a very forgivable error :D
[21:57] <kenplis> now i cange my nick name kenplis instead of plisken
[21:57] <bobfarley> kenplis/plisken you have already
[22:05] <bmk789> any lirc experts?
[22:06] <moofoo> bmk789: depends :)
[22:06] <jhutchins> corinth: Use mplayer.
[22:06] <jhutchins> corinth: Why is that a problem?
[22:07] <jhutchins> (Why do people persist in trying to use kaffeine?)
[22:07] <moofoo> i like smplayer ;)
[22:07] <ardchoille> jhutchins: No idea
[22:07] <ardchoille> MPlayer is the best, IMHO.
[22:08] <moofoo> jhutchins: probably because its the default ;)
[22:08] <jhutchins> moofoo: I just use the mplayer gui.  kmplayer is too limited in controls.
[22:08] <jpatrick> jhutchins: tried codeine?
[22:08] <Arsanerit> Hello, I have a file that is, according to 'file', "Macromedia Flash Video". I have the Macromedia Flash plugin for firefox, but this is a seperate file, and when I point firefox to it it asks me what to do with it - it doesn't (attempt to) play it. How do I play this file?
[22:08] <moofoo> codeine is xine based ;)
[22:08] <jhutchins> moofoo: I know, but why do people keep doing things like that?  Setting a non-working player as default is kinda duh.
[22:08] <moofoo> jhutchins: smplayer != kmplayer ;)
[22:08] <jhutchins> k
[22:09] <jhutchins> VLC also mostly just works.
[22:09] <bmk789> moofoo: im having absolutely no luck getting my nvidia rf remote to work
[22:09] <moofoo> jhutchins: yeah well.. it works more or less and supports dvb so you can watch tv with it..
[22:09] <ardchoille> Some of us can't use vlc, sadly.
[22:09] <bmk789> moofoo: when i did a dpkg-reconfigure the kde lirc icon would light up when i hit a button but none of the actions worked
[22:09] <jhutchins> !flash | Arsanerit
[22:09] <ubotu> Arsanerit: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:10] <moofoo> bmk789: lircd is running?
[22:10] <bmk789> moofoo: yes
[22:10] <bmk789> but when i replace the lircd.conf with the correct one, it all stops working
[22:10] <moofoo> well maybe your lircd.conf is not correct then ;)
[22:11] <Arsanerit> jhutchins: I have the flash plugin.
[22:11] <moofoo> mind to pastbin it?
[22:11] <moofoo> Arsanerit: mplayer can play flv
[22:11] <bmk789> moofoo: http://lircconfig.commandir.com/lircd.conf/?viewremote=87 thats the one i found with the exact model of my remote
[22:12] <Arsanerit> moofoo: Thank you.
[22:12] <moofoo> bmk789: mm looks ok as it seems
[22:12] <Arsanerit> Now I only need to figure out how to play the audio track in the seperate file.
[22:13] <jhutchins> Arsanerit: the web site may be misconfigured.
[22:13] <moofoo> Arsanerit:  mplayer can do this :)
[22:13] <Arsanerit> jhutchins: There is no web site.
[22:13] <Arsanerit> moofoo: I know, I am reading the manpage.
[22:13] <moofoo> (-audiofile)
[22:13] <jhutchins> jpatrick: Nope, hadn't heard of it.
[22:14] <moofoo> bmk789: is your hardware.conf correct?
[22:14] <bmk789> its the same as when the icon worked
[22:14] <jpatrick> jhutchins: it's a great little video player
[22:14] <Arsanerit> Thanks
[22:14] <jhutchins> !info codeine
[22:14] <ubotu> codeine: Simple KDE video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.dfsg-2 (gutsy), package size 174 kB, installed size 596 kB
[22:15] <moofoo> bmk789: hmhm... sorry have no further ideas.. i guess the module you use may be wrong (lirc-serial lirc-usb etc) .. maybe check /var/log/messages or dmesg .. but i'm not sure
[22:16] <bmk789> moofoo: im thinking the dpkg's config for the remote had something different but i cant get that config back because it only adds it the first time
[22:16] <CPrgmSwR2> Is Linux a form of Unix?
[22:17] <moofoo> CPrgmSwR2: not really
[22:17] <CPrgmSwR2> Just double checking, ha my book screwed up
[22:17] <jhutchins> jpatrick: codeine looks worthwhile - but mplayer just works for me, so I probably won't mess with it.
[22:17] <moofoo> (some even claim linux mean "Linux Is Not Unix" ;)
[22:18] <ThuLex> i have ubuntu on a usb key and it sort of works
[22:18] <jhutchins> CPrgmSwR2: Yes, Linux is a posix compliant form of unix.
[22:18] <moofoo> !info smplayer
[22:18] <ubotu> smplayer: complete front-end for MPlayer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.5.20-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 816 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[22:18] <ThuLex> the only problem is when i boot from my usb key it comes up about my GNOME Manager being buggy
[22:18] <jhutchins> CPrgmSwR2: It was developed independently though, it's not a derivitive of an institutional unix.
[22:18] <ThuLex> and i cant log in (after it asks me for a username and password) which i dont know what it is
[22:18] <ThuLex> is there a default username and password or how do i fix the rpoblem?
[22:18] <CPrgmSwR2> thats confusing
[22:19] <moofoo> well actually linux is just the kernel..
[22:19] <CPrgmSwR2> jhutchins: are you saying Linux is a form of Unix?
[22:19] <ThuLex> CPrgmSwR2, linux is based on the same structure as unix as far as i know...
[22:19] <ThuLex> but it was made but different people
[22:19] <moofoo> CPrgmSwR2:  GNU (as in "GNU is not Unix") is the "unix like part"
[22:19] <moofoo> CPrgmSwR2: so should call it GNU/Linux if at all
[22:19] <ThuLex> image someone coming along and taking windows' basic structure and making a new everything else...
[22:19] <Arsanerit> Thank you. It was interesting. :)
[22:19] <ThuLex> anyway
[22:20] <ThuLex> anyone can help me with my problem?
[22:20] <CPrgmSwR2> ThuLex: I am very familier with the history of linux, but I just didn't relize it could be considered unix
[22:20] <jhutchins> CPrgmSwR2: Yes.
[22:20] <jhutchins> Linux is a unix according to the posix definition of unix.
[22:20] <ThuLex> well linux isnt unix
[22:20] <ThuLex> meh
[22:20] <ThuLex> erm
[22:21] <ThuLex> jaguar
[22:21] <ThuLex> the makers of the cars of jaguar
[22:21] <jhutchins> gnu isn't Linux either.
[22:21] <ThuLex> for their new car, they use the structure of rover...
[22:21] <jhutchins> Ford.
[22:21] <ThuLex> its a jaguar (named wise and everything else) but its chassi is a rover..
[22:21] <ThuLex> or whatever
[22:21] <ThuLex> it was an example :p
[22:21] <ThuLex> im not a mechanic :p
[22:22] <CPrgmSwR2> jhutchins: said linux is Unix, ThuLex says linux is not unix. Wow
[22:22] <jhutchins> Jaguar is a Ford probe with a Jaguar hood ornament.
[22:22] <ThuLex> well everyone says different things :p
[22:22] <moofoo> CPrgmSwR2: well it depends on how you define "Unix"
[22:22] <ThuLex> anyone
[22:22] <ThuLex> CAN anyone help me????
[22:22] <CPrgmSwR2> ThuLex: sorry I can't
[22:22] <jhutchins> Which is what the posix standard is for, defining what's unix.
[22:23] <CPrgmSwR2> jhutchins: okay thnx
[22:23] <jhutchins> ThuLex: sorry.  Try this:
[22:23] <jhutchins> !sudo | ThuLex
[22:23] <ubotu> ThuLex: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[22:23] <jhutchins> !kdesu | ThuLex
[22:23] <ubotu> ThuLex: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[22:23] <bobfarley> India's Tata Motor's is said to be a bidder for Jaguar and LandRover
[22:24] <ThuLex> well how can i do it when i  cant get it?
[22:24] <jhutchins> Yeah.  Ford doesn't want Rover, and Jaguar fans don't want them to have Jaguar.
[22:24] <ThuLex> when it starts to run it says theres a problem with the users and with the GNOME Manager
[22:24] <signedout> hi
[22:24] <jhutchins> ThuLex: Please read the two links above.
[22:24] <ThuLex> and it goes to a blueish page with a space to type in ur Usernma
[22:24] <ThuLex> then after password
[22:24] <signedout> what can I do when update crashed?
[22:24] <jhutchins> Ah.
[22:24] <signedout> in the middle of updating
[22:25] <jhutchins> ThuLex: You need to pres ctrl-alt-f1 and log in there without the GUI.
[22:25] <MsK`> hi
[22:25] <jhutchins> ThuLex: That or boot to rescue mode.
[22:25] <ThuLex> ok
[22:25] <ThuLex> well do you know how to fix the bug ?
[22:25] <jhutchins> !aptfix | signedout
[22:25] <ubotu> signedout: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:25] <MsK`> after deinstalling fglrx, I get this everytime I run a 3D app : "Xlib;
[22:25] <moofoo> CPrgmSwR2: i suppose the closest term to describe GNU/Linux is "Unix-like"  if you want to have unix in the sentence ;-)  [anyway this is getting OT]
[22:25] <MsK`> after deinstalling fglrx, I get this everytime I run a 3D app : "Xlib: extension "ATIFGLRXDRI" missing on display ":0.0"."
[22:26] <jhutchins> ThuLex: Did you originally install ubuntu, then add kubuntu-desktop, or the other way around?
[22:26] <ThuLex> huh?
[22:26] <ThuLex> wait i;ll explain
[22:26] <ThuLex> i downloaded 7.10 on window
[22:26] <ThuLex> s
[22:26] <ThuLex> burnt it onto a disc
[22:27] <ThuLex> then followed this tutorial to put it on a usb key
[22:27] <ThuLex> let me get it
[22:27] <ThuLex> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[22:28] <jhutchins> Is Linux Unix? Paul Murphy of Linux Insider says yes: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/32719.html
[22:29] <jhutchins> ThuLex: Did you use ubuntu, as the guide says?
[22:29] <moofoo> jhutchins: Unix is a Trademark of Open Group ;-)
[22:29] <stdin> It's quite clear that Linus Is Not UniX
[22:29] <bmk789> moofoo: is there a way to view what command are coming in from the remote?
[22:29] <jhutchins> stdin: see above.
[22:29] <stdin> we do love our reverse acronyms
[22:30] <ThuLex> well yes and no
[22:30] <ThuLex> i used ubuntu to do everything apart from put the ubuntu files on my usb key
[22:30] <ThuLex> i had to go to window, open the disc and copy and paste the files onto the key
[22:30] <moofoo> bmk789: there is lirc-x package with irxevent and xmode2
[22:30] <corinth> jhutchin: I prefer the interface the Kaffeine has, much more to mplayer.
[22:31] <jhutchins> ThuLex: Ok, the reason I ask is because that's a gnome error, and kubuntu doesn't run gnome, it runs kde.  #ubuntu is more likely to be able to help with the error than we are.
[22:31] <moofoo> jhutchins: this is neither a proof nor a proper source ;-) i could claim the contrary :p
[22:31] <jhutchins> corinth: codeine looks good, try it.  Or vlc.
[22:31] <moofoo> but still this getting too much ot i suppose ;-)
[22:31] <jhutchins> Linux Insider is not a proper source?
[22:32] <corinth> jhutchins: I'll try codeine, thanks. Be back soon.
[22:32] <joebob777as7> i'm looking to make all user accounts on a central server. do i have to go and learn ldap or can i do something else?
[22:32] <ThuLex> so whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[22:32] <corinth> ThuLex: Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE
[22:33] <moofoo> jhutchins: i would say it *might* be a bit linux biased ;-)
[22:33] <ThuLex> which is best, kde or gnome?
[22:34] <joebob777as7> ThuLex, personal preference
[22:34] <joebob777as7> gnome is more popular
[22:34] <moofoo> anyway.. legally unix is trademark of the opengroup and hence linux may not be called unix(tm) ..
[22:34] <corinth> ThuLex: It depends on you. Gnome has a simpler, cleaner feeling, while KDE is also nice and is more customizable.
[22:34] <joebob777as7> kde is coming out with it's newest release which a lot of people are skeptical about since the beta's have been so buggy.
[22:35] <jhutchins> Because of the fragmentation of Unix, the posix standard was developed to determine which OS's were considered to effectively be unix from a programming standpoint, ie for the sake of code portability.  Systems that meet the posix standard are generally understood to "be Unix", systems that do not are "something else".
[22:36] <ThuLex> hm, so for a newbie gnome is better
[22:36] <ThuLex> so gnome is like the brain of ubuntu?
[22:36] <jhutchins> ThuLex: No, gnome is like the stage makeup.
[22:36] <jhutchins> ThuLex: As is kde.
[22:36] <corinth> ThuLex: Kind of. I use both, but I started out on KDE and loved it.
[22:36] <jhutchins> ThuLex: They are two different desktop environments.  xfce is a third.
[22:37] <moofoo> jhutchins: "Unix-like" is the term ;) or better "Posix Compliant"
[22:37] <jhutchins> ThuLex: The underlying system, the brain, is GNU Linux.
[22:37] <titi> salut
[22:38] <jhutchins> moofoo: As you say, it's all in your definition.  I like posix, it's a good reference standard for what is or isn't unix.
[22:38] <moofoo> jhutchins: well release a posix compliant product and call it unix .. and see what the opengroup tells you ;-)
[22:38] <jhutchins> moofoo: To me, if I can pretty quickly find my way around the command line for system administration, it's close enough to call it unix, whether it's solaris, HPUX, or whatever IBM call's it's flavor.  Or linux.
[22:39] <moofoo> jhutchins: i would say its more a question of defintion and understanding.. both claims are to a certain degree right.. but neither is unquestionable
[22:39] <jhutchins> moofoo: Just gotta define your terms.
[22:39] <joebob777as7> i'm looking to make all user accounts on a central server. do i have to go and learn ldap or can i do something else?
[22:39] <moofoo> jhutchins: heh.. try "tar xfz " on a non gtar system ;-)
[22:39] <jhutchins> ThuLex: Gnome is supposed to be more user friendly, at the cost of options.
[22:40] <corinth> Good description
[22:40] <jhutchins> ThuLex: Some people say kde looks and acts more like Windows, but lately they've been saying that in a negative way about Gnome.
[22:40] <ThuLex> oh
[22:40] <jhutchins> ThuLex: xfce is a whole new thing, which is what some people want.
[22:41] <ThuLex> cool
[22:41] <jhutchins> Then there's nexstep, which is an evolution of Jobs NEXT desktop.
[22:41] <ThuLex> well when i know more about linux i'll try to get that :p
[22:41] <ThuLex> brb
[22:41] <moofoo> yeah and osx is a unix nowadays ;-)
[22:42] <jhutchins> Yep.
[22:43] <moofoo> but not linux.. it's just unix-like ;-)
[22:43] <jhutchins> By way of Next and BSD I gather.
[22:43] <jhutchins> moofoo: What different unix-like OS's have you used?
[22:44] <moofoo> jhutchins: solaris, hpux, irix, freebsd, netbsd, openbsd, osx, plan9 (;-))
[22:44] <jhutchins> irix, that was the one i was thinking of.
[22:44] <moofoo> and linux ;-)
[22:45] <moofoo> 4dwm ftw ;-)
[22:45] <jhutchins> Pretty good list.
[22:45] <jhutchins> I think I've wandered around an old SysV system once.
[22:47] <aurelia> hi i have a problem
[22:47] <aurelia> with a program in c language
[22:47] <aurelia> when i use gcc for compiling
[22:48] <aurelia> i've the message " not return charriage at the end of the file"
[22:48] <aurelia> something like that
[22:49] <trappist> aurelia: echo "" >> file.c
[22:49] <stdin> that's not an error, that's a warning
[22:49] <trappist> to put a newline at the end
[22:49] <trappist> don't forget to use both >'s
[22:49] <trappist> or you'll be sad
[22:50] <plisken> ie just instaled kubuntu (old one 6.06)
[22:50] <plisken> I wish to program in c
[22:51] <aurelia> thank you very much
[22:51] <aurelia> it works
[22:51] <plisken> but it seems i haven gcc or something similar
[22:52] <stdin> plisken: install "build-essential"
[22:52] <plisken> ok iĺl try....
[22:54] <plisken> i dont find it in adept
[22:57] <plisken> bye (is time to sleep) thank at all
[23:01] <signedout> I have a problem with froswire and java
[23:02] <signedout> I can only start it like this when cd ing into the this folder /usr/lib/frostwire$ java -jar FrostWire.jar
[23:02] <signedout> I copy that command in the menu icon and doesn't work
[23:02] <signedout> why?
[23:03] <signedout> hello?
[23:03] <Dragnslcr> I would guess that /usr/lib/frostwire isn't in your path
[23:03] <signedout> what path?
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> Did youtry java -jar /usr/lib/frostwire/FrostWire.jar
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> Your PATH path
[23:04] <signedout> yes
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> i.e. the directories that the shell looks in when you don't specify a location
[23:04] <signedout> that's what I have in the menu command
[23:05] <signedout> and Frostwire starts with an error message whereas doing that on a terminal frostwire starts just fine
[23:05] <blendtux> stdin: i get updates for the packages for kde4 is that correct
[23:06] <stdin> blendtux: sure
[23:06] <blendtux> who made the new packages for kubuntu
[23:06] <blendtux> you stdin
[23:06] <stdin> they are the same packages, just in gutsy-backports
[23:07] <vsudilov> whats the command to make adept-updater to update all my stuff in the terminal?
[23:07] <signedout> this is the error message frostwire gives "one or more necessary files appear to be invalid. This is generally caused by a corrupted installation. ...."
[23:07] <signedout> why?
[23:10] <Dragnslcr> vsudilov- you mean apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[23:14] <mot__> how do i execute a .jar from commandline?
[23:16] <ardchoille> mot__: gij flename.jar  ?
[23:18] <blendtux> what do you mean the same packages
[23:18] <blendtux> it updated my system stdin, so nothing has changed
[23:19] <ubuntu> my browser won't connect, but irc does; any suggestions?
[23:19] <stdin> ok
[23:20] <moofoo> ubuntu: wrong proxy set?
[23:20] <ubuntu> lemme check
[23:20] <pierreth> hello, I have a problem with my monitor, the image is shifted to the left
[23:21] <pierreth> I cannot see the left corner of the image
[23:22] <pierreth> This is only appenning in 1680x1050
[23:22] <pierreth> I have a LG L222WT
[23:22] <pierreth> any idea?
[23:25] <dga> !compiz
[23:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:26] <pierreth> I don't have compiz
[23:26] <dga> why not?
[23:26] <pierreth> I just made an new installation of Kubuntu
[23:26] <pierreth> I have a new computer
[23:27] <pierreth> Here I see that I am not alone with this problem: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1168655
[23:29] <khumba_yo> hy @ll
[23:29] <mot_> how do i build codeblocks from source?
[23:30] <tim__> fgggg
[23:33] <Tarin> can any one help me install xgl/Compiz
[23:33] <corinth> !compiz
[23:33] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:34] <signedout> hi
[23:34] <Tarin> thanks ubotu
[23:34] <signedout> firefox claim I do'nt have plugins available
[23:34] <blendtux> but stdin those packages i installed from kde4 where no updates from the rc1 i installed before
[23:34] <signedout> I have gnash installed and java, I can't watch youtube :(
[23:35] <stdin> blendtux: yes, they are the same packages, just in gutsy-backports
[23:35] <dga> what are some advantages of kubuntu vs ubuntu? i'm having a hard time deciding which to install on my laptop.
[23:36] <signedout> I tyoe about:plugins and nothing shows up
[23:36] <signedout> how do I make firefox scan for plugins?
[23:36] <stdin> dga: try both, see what you like best. it's all about personal choice
[23:36] <khumba_yo> dga- you can have both, depends on your own preference - ever tried a live-cd?
[23:36] <dga> yes
[23:36] <dga> i've tried both
[23:36] <khumba_yo> so, whats your favourite?
[23:37] <khumba_yo> gnome or kde?
[23:37] <dga> i dislike gnome
[23:37] <dga> but KDE isn't much better
[23:37] <dga> or it might be
[23:38] <khumba_yo> xubuntu comes with xfce... ;)
[23:38] <CPrgmSwR2> dga: Have you seen KDE4
[23:38] <dga> nope
[23:38] <dga> it's still a beta isn't it/
[23:38] <CPrgmSwR2> No, its in RC status now
[23:39] <CPrgmSwR2> it may release this december 12 too
[23:39] <khumba_yo> xfce looks a little like gnome, but is much more "lightweight"
[23:39] <dga> hmm
[23:39] <dga> can i see a screenshot CPrgmSwR2?
[23:39] <khumba_yo> theres also a non-official distro called fluxbuntu - with fluxbox
[23:40] <signedout> plugins anybody?
[23:40] <signedout> how to make firefox recotinaze java and flash?
[23:41] <Dr_willis> it should do that automaticially signedout  once you install them
[23:41] <CPrgmSwR2> dga: trying to find a current one, their are instructions for trying out kde4 but thats already outdated whats in kubuntu
[23:41] <Dr_willis> The 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' package should install those and more
[23:41] <dga> is it easy to make kde look like OS X?
[23:42] <Dr_willis> dga,  look yes. feel no.. then again.. who would want to. :)
[23:42] <dga> excellent
[23:42] <Dr_willis> dga,  theres dozens of OS-X themes out there.
[23:42] <Dr_willis> and then theres the emerald os-x look themes
[23:42] <dga> what's the difference?
[23:42] <Dr_willis> compiz adds a lot of features that mac-addicts seem to like
[23:42] <bobfarley> who's asking which is better ?
[23:42] <Dr_willis> emerald is for compiz.
[23:43] <dga> well, i will be using compiz
[23:43] <signedout> Dr_willis: I type about:plugins in firefox and doesn't show any
[23:43] <Dr_willis> signedout,  you did install java and the flash player with the package manager?
[23:44] <signedout> Dr_willis: yes
[23:44] <bobfarley> using the alternative install cd,  I like to do a commandline install, then add kde-core plus the things I really need/want  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core
[23:44] <CPrgmSwR2> dga: I would prefer you wait to see the screen shots of when kde4 is released
[23:45] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[23:45] <dga> CPrgmSwR2 ok
[23:45] <Minataku> What's the status on the A1200?
[23:45] <khumba_yo> signedout: have a look at http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/index.html
[23:45] <CPrgmSwR2> dga: kubuntu will release a livecd of kde4 when its ready
[23:46] <dga> won't kubuntu automatically update kde when it comes out>
[23:46] <Dr_willis> dga,  that would be a bit of a huge change to force on people that may not want it. :)
[23:46] <bobfarley> kde4 won't appear to be any great change from current kde.  If you don't like it now, nothing will change with kde4
[23:47] <CPrgmSwR2> bobfarley: thats not true
[23:47] <CPrgmSwR2> KDE4 is releasing an awsome new plasma system
[23:47] <stdin> we have a liveCD of kde4 already
[23:48] <bobfarley> CPrgmSwR2  it all looks the same.  I've seen the screenshots and I've got a kde4 livecd
[23:48] <bobfarley> CPrgmSwR2  defaults are hard to tell apart
[23:48] <bobfarley> CPrgmSwR2  so yeah, I'm right.
[23:48] <CPrgmSwR2> bobfarley: different prespective
[23:49] <CPrgmSwR2> bobfarley: did you know kde4 was re-programmed from the ground up around qt4
[23:49] <bobfarley> CPrgmSwR2  no.  its exactly what I said.  YOu read into it.
[23:49] <stdin> can you take KDE4 comments/discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <stdin> it's not on topic here
[23:49] <bobfarley> CPrgmSwR2  reprogrammed to look the same to end users who won't be able to tell the difference.
[23:49] <dga> hmm so should i install kubuntu from the kubuntu cd i already have or with the kde4 livecd?
[23:50] <stdin> dga: kde4 is not ready to be your main desktop, install kubuntu from the normal install disk
[23:50] <khumba_yo> dga - i suppose the kde4 livecd has nothing to do with kubuntu... right?
[23:51] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  right now sitting in the garrag on the pooltable behind a 10ft pile of stuff. :) i cant even get in the garrage..
[23:51] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  darnwife and her xmas shopping..
[23:51] <dga> does compiz fusion run better in kde than it does in gnome
[23:51] <dga> ?
[23:51] <Minataku> Heh
[23:51] <Dr_willis> dga,  well.. ive had issues with it under both..
[23:51] <dga> what issues?
[23:52] <Dr_willis> dga,  so its like saying a root cannal is better then having a toenail removed.. :)
[23:52] <khumba_yo> dga - just install kubuntu from your cd, then you can co-install another window-manager
[23:52] <Dr_willis> some programs just do not like compiz. :)  but compiz is being tweaked on every day.
[23:52] <khumba_yo> .. if you like.
[23:54] <corinth> dga: No, compiz-fusion works better in gnome.
[23:55] <dga> ok
[23:55] <corinth> dba: It works in KDE, but there are drawbacks.
[23:55] <dga> what kind of drawbacks?
[23:56] <Minataku> Drawbacks like... INDIGESTION
[23:56] <Minataku> And DIAREHHA
[23:56] <Minataku> Oh, wait
[23:56] <Minataku> I'm thinking of something else
[23:56] <Minataku> Sorry
[23:56] <khumba_yo> lol
[23:56] <Minataku> XD
[23:56] <dga> ok so compiz-fusion works better in gnome
[23:57] <dga> i'll just stick with gnome then
[23:57] <bobfarley> cept for a few moments of gee whiz, doesn't compiz-fusion get tiring ?
[23:57] <Dr_willis> use it enough and eventually you will find rough spots and quirks. :)  I know theres some issues with java apps and for some reason vncclient (and other apps) have a issue where you cant select the 'password' input filed. The fix is to shift-clik in the input field. (no idea why that works)
[23:57] <Dr_willis> Picking a desktop based on  which one does eyecandy best.... egads.. :)
[23:58] <Minataku> Well, there's no idea why GNOME works
[23:58] <bobfarley> best eyecandy is gOS
[23:58] <Minataku> Theories include that the thousands of errors just work somehow
[23:58] <Minataku> Kinda like how Windows runs
[23:58] <Dr_willis> bobfarley,  i found Gos lacking in some ways.. like.. well the live cd failed to boot up on 4 of the 5 machines i tested it on. :) Still not sure why its having that issue.
[23:59] <Dr_willis> But it all depends on  your needs.
[23:59] <bobfarley> Dr_willis  that wasn't gOS fault
[23:59] <Minataku> gOS?
[23:59] <stdin> do people ever read channel topics?
[23:59] <bobfarley> Dr_willis   if it boots in any drive it should boot in all drives.
[23:59] <Minataku> Quiet you, I want to know what gOS is
[23:59] <Dr_willis> bobfarley,  but all the machines can boot the Ubuntu/Kubuntu cd's fine.. so figure that out
[23:59] <perrako> Why is internet on ubuntu so spotty? My internet's been doing such weird things in ubuntu and never in windows.