| ctjctj | How do I install one apt from hardy into gutsy? | 02:29 |
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| hydrogen | undoable | 02:31 |
| hydrogen | probablyh | 02:31 |
| DanaG | Odd: I've never had apport offer to file reports on app crashes, either during Gutsy beta, after Gutsy release, or even now during Hardy pre-alpha. | 02:58 |
| IdleOne | DanaG: neither have I | 02:59 |
| IdleOne | that is what apprt is supposed to do right | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | they need to turn it on for alpha 1 | 03:00 |
| DanaG | I've only had it work in Gutsy fresh installs. | 03:00 |
| DanaG | But I've done so much on this system that I don't want to have to remember everything I've installed and customized. | 03:01 |
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| davidrawson | hello | 04:43 |
| DanaG | WTF? I just hotplugged my sound card and had the login sound play. | 04:53 |
| DanaG | WTF? | 04:53 |
| davidrawson | why | 04:54 |
| davidrawson | is that bad? | 04:55 |
| DanaG | For a moment it made me think I had somehow logged out and then in again. | 04:55 |
| DanaG | It should use a shorter sound. | 04:55 |
| davidrawson | I'm running programs on wine | 04:56 |
| davidrawson | it works except for sound | 04:57 |
| DanaG | Try setting Wine to use esound, if you're using PulseAudio. | 04:57 |
| DanaG | And install the esd-compat thingy. | 04:57 |
| davidrawson | nvm, the entire system has no sound now | 04:57 |
| davidrawson | there's something wrong with kubuntu | 04:58 |
| davidrawson | which one's better, kubuntu or ubuntu? | 04:58 |
| DanaG | They're essentially the same distro with a different desktop environment. | 04:59 |
| DanaG | It comes down to personal preference between KDE and Gnome. | 04:59 |
| davidrawson | Is it just the style of the desktop then? | 05:00 |
| DanaG | You can install ubuntu-desktop on kubuntu, and vice versa, if you want to try both desktop environments. | 05:00 |
| DanaG | KDE and Gnome also have some differences in philosophy, I believe. | 05:00 |
| davidrawson | How can I format to ntfs? | 05:01 |
| DanaG | Gparted can do it, I believe. | 05:01 |
| DanaG | Formatting is one of those things to make sure you're sure you want to do, before you do it. | 05:01 |
| davidrawson | not QTparted | 05:01 |
| davidrawson | I can't find Gparted | 05:02 |
| DanaG | It's a package that might not be installed by default. | 05:02 |
| davidrawson | NTFS doesn't work, im just going to use ext3 on my external hard disk.... | 05:06 |
| DanaG | It's easier to write to, for sure. | 05:06 |
| davidrawson | It is? | 05:06 |
| DanaG | With NTFS, you have to be sure to cleanly unmount, or you must chkdsk. | 05:06 |
| DanaG | And to do that, you have to reboot to Windows. | 05:06 |
| davidrawson | Mine doesn't do that..... | 05:07 |
| davidrawson | My computer's vista though | 05:07 |
| DanaG | I mean for writing NTFS in Linux. | 05:08 |
| davidrawson | you could also force it to mount | 05:08 |
| davidrawson | mount "dev/sdb1" "media/sdb1" -o force | 05:09 |
| DanaG | Naah, that can cause some file loss of newly written files, I believe. | 05:09 |
| davidrawson | but ext3 cant be read by windows | 05:09 |
| DanaG | It can if you use http://fs-driver.org | 05:10 |
| DanaG | but the control panel doesn't work under Vista. You'd have to re-run the installer to change drive letters. | 05:10 |
| DanaG | NTFS is still better if you intend to use the drive with other computers, and if you intend to unmount it safely most of the time. | 05:10 |
| davidrawson | Nah, I always shut down windows the bad way....it shuts down too slowly | 05:11 |
| DanaG | Well, you can do "safely remove" in Windows, and "Unmount Volume" in Linux. | 05:13 |
| DanaG | Oh, and don't use NTFS compression -- it renders NTFS (even 3g) not writeable on files that have been created in Windows with compression on. | 05:14 |
| davidrawson | I think it's cool that you can use command line to mount disk images | 05:16 |
| DanaG | You can even make an ntfs file system on a non-block device. | 05:19 |
| DanaG | Same with any other file system. | 05:19 |
| davidrawson | what do you mean by that? | 05:26 |
| DanaG | You can create an empty file with a specific size, then make it into a file system, and then loop mount it. | 05:29 |
| DanaG | It's one way of testing filesystem drivers, for example. | 05:29 |
| davidrawson | oh, like making an image file | 05:30 |
| davidrawson | could you use it as an image? | 05:31 |
| davidrawson | how do you make an empty file? | 05:33 |
| davidrawson | using the terminal | 05:34 |
| DanaG | dd if=/dev/zero of=filename bs=1M count=X where X is number of megabytes. Or use bs (blocksize) = larger and count = smaller. | 05:34 |
| davidrawson | linux uses the full power of the PC i guess | 05:36 |
| davidrawson | it has built in support for image files | 05:37 |
| DanaG | Well, since many devices can be accessed as files, you can do interesting things. | 05:38 |
| DanaG | For example, try doing cat filename > /dev/dsp | 05:38 |
| DanaG | where filename is any random thing you feel like trying. | 05:38 |
| DanaG | Turn down volume first, though. | 05:38 |
| davidrawson | my sound doesn't work | 05:39 |
| davidrawson | what does that do? | 05:39 |
| davidrawson | make noises that's in the file? | 05:39 |
| DanaG | Makes random (sometimes horrid) noises, depending on the type and content of the file. | 05:39 |
| davidrawson | what if we used a wave file? | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Hopefully it'd play properly. | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Every file system sounds different, so you can sudo cat /dev/sda1 > /dev/dsp | 05:40 |
| davidrawson | what's the most raw sound file, without any compression? | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Note that the sudo is on cat, which only reads from the device. | 05:41 |
| DanaG | Be wary of anything telling you to do a command that writes to a file on a partition. | 05:41 |
| davidrawson | what can you do with the display? | 05:41 |
| davidrawson | have you heard of rockbox? | 05:41 |
| DanaG | That's harder -- you have to have framebuffer enabled, and you have to be on a console. | 05:41 |
| hydrogen | its also stretching the topic of this channel! | 05:42 |
| davidrawson | Into TAFFY! | 05:43 |
| davidrawson | is solaris a linux distro? | 05:46 |
| Tm_T | no | 05:47 |
| davidrawson | linux is better? | 05:47 |
| Tm_T | depends | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | ...i think you want ##linux | 05:47 |
| Tm_T | Hobbsee: bah, was just about to say that | 05:47 |
| * DanaG changes mode from 'off-topic' to 'lurk'. | 05:48 | |
| davidrawson | I also like how if the drive is preventing you from copying files to it, you can force it to using the terminal | 05:53 |
| DanaG | One reeeeally nice thing that I severely miss when in windows: dmesg. | 05:53 |
| davidrawson | dmesg? | 05:54 |
| davidrawson | what's that? | 05:54 |
| davidrawson | i wonder if myspace IM works in linux (not that I use it anymore) | 05:54 |
| DanaG | Sometimes in Windows, I'll have a driver mysteriously break, but in Linux, you can often find out at least partly why. | 05:55 |
| davidrawson | linux usually fixes it | 05:55 |
| davidrawson | for me | 05:55 |
| davidrawson | what's dmesg? | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | again, that's a #ubuntu question, or a ##linux one | 05:57 |
| DanaG | Here's why I like using +1: I find it oddly fun fixing things when they break. | 05:58 |
| FunnyLookinHat | DanaG, join the club : ) | 05:59 |
| davidrawson | linux doesn't seem to slow down while copying files.... | 05:59 |
| DanaG | I joined the club back in Edgy, actually. | 05:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Hahaha | 05:59 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I've been there a while too.. sadly because I used to have poor distros to use | 06:00 |
| hydrogen | I've graduated from that club | 06:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | LoL | 06:00 |
| hydrogen | now I just want my os to work | 06:00 |
| hydrogen | theres plenty of other things I can spend my time breaking and fixing | 06:00 |
| pwnguin | i just use ubuntu+1 because if i dont things dont work when release rolls around =( | 06:00 |
| FunnyLookinHat | true that, if I had more time to bug report and troubleshoot (stupid school takes up all my time) then I'd do it too | 06:01 |
| DanaG | I'm also not afraid to do things such as hacking at my DSDT (to fix brightness control). | 06:02 |
| DanaG | One thing I don't do so well at is coming up with creative hostnames. | 06:04 |
| DanaG | For a while, my laptop (Gateway M685) had the really lame hostname of: "m685". | 06:05 |
| DanaG | Finally a friend suggested I change it to GLaDOS, so I did. | 06:05 |
| hydrogen | hydrogen@Yes | 06:06 |
| hydrogen | mines better :) | 06:06 |
| DanaG | http://trac.phidev.info/trac/wiki/AptZeroconf | 06:07 |
| DanaG | cool idea. | 06:07 |
| davidrawson | i'm not using pure-ftpd without the gui :/ | 06:08 |
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| * Hobbsee wonders if anyone has found a solution to totem video playing yet | 12:37 | |
| MartinW | How many megabytes of updates per day for hardy? | 13:43 |
| Hobbsee | lots | 13:43 |
| mrsno | mm i love how gb.archive.ubuntu.com peaks out my 20meg connection | 13:59 |
| mrsno | makes updating so quick | 14:00 |
| mrsno | wee just killed my hardy virtual machine, gdm frozen | 14:26 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 14:30 |
| Hobbsee | that sounds like my normal hardy | 14:31 |
| mrsno | i was about to say yay for snapshots :) but now virtualbox has keeled over | 14:31 |
| mrsno | hmm VERR_SSM_LOAD_CPUID_MISMATCH | 14:32 |
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| hashbrowncipher | does anyone here know why i would not have a /proc/slabinfo file? | 23:12 |
| crimsun | probably because we no longer use slab. | 23:24 |
| crimsun | i.e., | 23:24 |
| crimsun | CONFIG_SLUB=y | 23:24 |
| crimsun | CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y | 23:24 |
| crimsun | and, of course, | 23:25 |
| crimsun | # CONFIG_SLAB is not set | 23:25 |
| hashbrowncipher | what replaces it? | 23:25 |
| crdlb | s/A/U/ | 23:26 |
| hashbrowncipher | as in, where can i get similar diagnostic info | 23:27 |
| crimsun | /sys/slab/* | 23:29 |
| hashbrowncipher | crimsun: thanks for the help | 23:31 |
| crimsun | np. | 23:31 |
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