[02:33] <Amaranth> cbx33 is following me :P
[02:33] <LaserJock> he is?
[02:34] <Amaranth> Either he was in the wrong place or he is learning vala too
[02:34] <LaserJock> interesting
[03:54] <yotux> can I use a usb scanner on a thin client?
[03:56] <Burgundavia> yotux: yes
[03:56] <yotux> where can I a find out how to do this
[04:50] <gNoLa> ogra
[06:36] <yotux> how would I enable my scanner on a thin cleint
[14:27] <joe_> How do I add users on a network install globally instead of just one machine?
[16:20] <bddebian> Heya
[19:47] <LaserJock> ogra: is the LiveCD oversized as well?
[19:47] <ogra> no idea, amd64 isnt ...
[19:47] <ogra> i386 is nonexistent
[19:53] <LaserJock> bdoin: hi
[19:54] <bdoin> hi
[19:55] <LaserJock> bdoin: I think I've got translations fixed up and we have the new gstreamer in Hardy
[19:55] <bdoin> I got another complaint on the broken Ubuntu French translation :/
[19:55] <bdoin> great
[19:56] <LaserJock> bdoin: I think it might take a while to get the translations all the way through to users
[19:56] <LaserJock> but I did everything I can on my end
[19:56] <LaserJock> we're just waiting for the lang pack system to pick everything up
[19:58] <bdoin> does your fix means you will take upstream translations instead of rosetta ?
[19:58] <LaserJock> that I'm not really sure of
[20:02] <LaserJock> bdoin: are the translations not there or just incomplete for Gutsy?
[20:03] <ogra> gcompris-sound-fr is in the archive
[20:04] <bdoin> LaserJock: very very incomplete
[20:04] <bdoin> ogra: it's not a sound file issue, it's a po file issue
[20:05] <LaserJock> bdoin: hmm, well I don't quite get how there would be *any* translation
[20:05] <LaserJock> or wait
[20:06] <LaserJock> bdoin: is it using the translation from Feisty maybe?
[20:07] <bdoin> well perhaps but I think I double checked that. hum no, I really checked
[20:09] <bdoin> I think the translation gcompris.mo file is part of the gnome language pack
[20:11] <bdoin> apt-file search /usr/share/locale-langpack/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gcompris.mo
[20:11] <bdoin> language-pack-gnome-fr-base: usr/share/locale-langpack/fr/LC_MESSAGES/gcompris.mo
[20:12] <LaserJock> hmm, well then I don't understand that problem
[20:12] <LaserJock> I know I fixed one problem
[20:12] <LaserJock> but I wonder if your incomplete translations are a different problem
[20:12] <bdoin> so that's it. would it be possible to update the translation from the upstream po file and provide an updated language-pack-gnome-fr-base
[20:13] <ogra> well, do the right .po files end up in rosetta^WLP translations
[20:13] <LaserJock> ogra: I believe not because a .pot wasn't shipped
[20:13] <LaserJock> I sent carlos the Gutsy .pot
[20:13] <ogra> thats where the langpacks get generated from
[20:13] <LaserJock> right
[20:14] <LaserJock> but as far as I understand it I would think that Gutsy should have Feisty's translations then
[20:14] <ogra> right
[20:19] <LaserJock> but on launchpad both feisty and gutsy are fully translated in French
[20:20] <bdoin> I have another question, there are 2 GCompris projects on launchpad:
[20:20] <bdoin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcompris
[20:20] <bdoin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcompris
[20:21] <bdoin> that's confusing, there are bugs under both
[20:22] <bdoin> brb
[20:23] <ogra> one is a project (should actually be owned by you as upstream) the other is a ubuntu source package
[20:23] <johnny> moquist, hi, are you about?
[20:23] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/gcompris is the actual upstream project page
[20:24] <ogra> not sure who registered the project page though
[20:25] <bdoin> ok I see
[20:27] <stgraber> ogra: I have Edubuntu running quite well on 128MB of ram :) even OpenOffice takes less than a minute to open, so the minimum ram thing is really only a problem of LiveCD
[20:27] <ogra> bdoin, seems it was registered by Lutin (he's in #ubuntu-devel it seems)
[20:27] <ogra> stgraber, well, i wouldnt dare to pull out 128M off the classmate :)
[20:27] <ogra> so yes, the suqashfs needs a lt extra space
[20:28] <stgraber> my main problem with that computer is the HDD speed (crappy 6GB hdd), everything is fast even KDE apps :)
[20:28] <ogra> thats a problem ?
[20:29] <ogra> "damned my computer is to fast i need slower hardware"
[20:29] <stgraber> oh, and I installed iTalc in the school I have my test classroom, I'll let them use for some days so I can fix details I forgot about and have the package ready
[20:30] <stgraber> well, I would have thought KDE libs would have taken the remaining megs of RAM but that wasn't the case, was quite surprising
[20:30] <LaserJock> ogra: hehe
[20:30] <stgraber> I didn't try to install the school specifc tools (running on wine) though, I don't think those would work correctly and I hate swapping especially with such a crappy hdd :)
[20:31] <ogra> LaserJock, crappy HW ... btw ... did you try the gutsy classmate image ?
[20:31] <stgraber> I'm currently installing on a same computer but with a 15GB 7200RPM hdd and will check how long takes OpenOffice to open (1min on the other)
[20:32] <ogra> on the classmate it took 2.5
[20:32] <LaserJock> ogra: not yet, getting there
[20:32] <LaserJock> ogra: perhaps this weekend
[20:32] <LaserJock> I've been sick, on holiday, busy with work, and forget my crossover cable
[20:32] <stgraber> ogra: I have L2 cache here :), CPU is good
[20:33] <ogra> heh
[20:33] <LaserJock> so I've been having a heck of a time getting everything together for it :-)
[20:56] <LaserJock> bdoin: ok, got it figured out I think
[20:57] <LaserJock> bdoin: turns out we've been using the Dapper translations
[20:58] <bdoin> ouch, reeaaally deprecated then
[20:58] <LaserJock> yep :(
[20:59] <LaserJock> bdoin: have only people running Gutsy complained?
[21:01] <LaserJock> bdoin: I'm told that the upstream translations get priority over what is in Launchpad now, so I think we are in good shape for Gutsy and Hardy
[21:01] <bdoin> yes but perhaps it was not so bad before
[21:01] <LaserJock> dapper was 7.2 and Feisty 8.2.2
[21:02] <LaserJock> Gutsy is 8.3.2 and now Hardy is 8.4.2
[21:02] <LaserJock> well
[21:03] <bdoin> at some point we had a large review of the english. well my english has been translated in official english and thus broke many strings
[21:03] <bdoin> but translators worked fine after that
[21:05] <LaserJock> ok
[21:05] <LaserJock> well, I'll talk to the Launchpad guys about Feisty and see if it's practical to update that too
[21:06] <LaserJock> we've got Gutsy and Hardy covered at least
[21:06] <LaserJock> bdoin: really sorry for all this :(
[21:14] <bdoin> does that mean we will see an update soon for gutsy ?
[21:19] <LaserJock> bdoin: as soon as new lang packs are sent out
[21:20] <bdoin> I'll open a bottle of champagne that day
[21:21] <LaserJock> they are supposed to go out monthly
[21:21] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure when the next one is scheduled
[21:21] <LaserJock> I'll try to track that down
[23:21] <ogra> !ogra
[23:21] <ubotu> ogra looks like a pirate!
[23:27] <johnny> ogra is a pirate
[23:29] <ogra> heh