[00:00] <perrako> Like, I just tried to load www.ubuntuforums.org and it loaded en.google.com
[00:00] <bobfarley> Dr_willis you hit a dvd+- boot problem with old dvd drives
[00:00] <Minataku> bobfarley: I've had plenty of working OSes fail to boot on some machines
[00:00] <dga> so then it's eyecandy(gnome&compiz-fusion) vs. solid desktop environment (kde)
[00:00] <perrako> and I can load the firefox extension pages but it won't let me install any of them (clicking the install does nothing)
[00:00] <Minataku> Oooh, cool, another episode of How It's Made
[00:00] <perrako> videos won't load from any site.... it's so bizarre
[00:00] <Dr_willis> bobfarley,  these were all decemntly new machines..  I wonder if the one it did boot on was the old machine.. i forget which one it was now. :)
[00:00] <Minataku> dga: Don't forget that both GNOME and Compiz are poorly written, lousy and ugly
[00:00] <bobfarley> and gOS image now fits on a cdr
[00:01] <bobfarley> http://www.thinkgos.com/
[00:01] <Dr_willis> bobfarley,  i was on a cd when i tried it.
[00:01] <stdin> bobfarley: read the topic, then take it to -offtopic
[00:01] <Minataku> Ew
[00:01] <dga> Minataku ugly? compiz looks so cool
[00:01] <Minataku> It looks like frickin' OSX
[00:01] <Minataku> gOS, that is
[00:01] <Minataku> I hate all this eyecandy garbage
[00:02] <dga> Minataku can i see your desktop?
[00:02] <Minataku> All the time and computational power wasted on stupid window animations
[00:02] <crimsun> that's such a balogney argument.
[00:02] <perrako> Humans like aesthetic :)
[00:02] <Grav3Mind> Hey guys
[00:02] <Minataku> Let me make another screenshot of it
[00:02] <bobfarley> i run kde-core, then add the stuff I need/want
[00:03] <Grav3Mind> does anyone know if theres a multi desktop effect like the one for OSX that when you swtich desktops it gives you cool effects like turning a cube or the desktop slides off to the left or right
[00:04] <Dragnslcr> !compiz | Grav3Mind
[00:04] <ubotu> Grav3Mind: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:05] <Grav3Mind> also
[00:05] <Grav3Mind> one last thing
[00:05] <Minataku> Processing image
[00:05] <dga> Minataku thanks
[00:05] <corinth> I want to webcam with my friends over the MSN client. What program do you suggest I use?
[00:05] <Grav3Mind> i know there is stuff for ubuntu and gnome for making linux look like osx
[00:05] <Grav3Mind> but is there one for Kubuntu?
[00:05] <stdin> I wonder if someone is going to post an image here, when it should clearly go in -offtopic...
[00:06] <stdin> corinth: kopete can do that I think
[00:06] <Minataku> Uploading
[00:06] <stdin> Grav3Mind: compiz works on both, despite it's buggyness
[00:07] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/desktop.png << Here ya go. My desktop.
[00:07] <Minataku> I was not warned of any such specific thing
[00:07] <stdin> I did say "I wonder if someone is going to post an image here, when it should clearly go in -offtopic..."
[00:07] <Grav3Mind> basically i wanna do this but with kde
[00:07] <Grav3Mind> http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
[00:07] <stdin> I also said to take offtopic to -offtopic
[00:07] <Minataku> That is not a warning, that is speculation
[00:07] <stdin> several times
[00:08] <stdin> and you should know it's offtopic regardless
[00:08] <charlesg3> does anyone know where 'startkde' is supposed to be called from after logging in?
[00:08] <Dr_willis> I would post my desktop. but its just 4 Terminal windows tiled. :P
[00:08] <Minataku> Heh
[00:09] <Minataku> Look at mine, it's just the Fluxbox slit
[00:09] <Minataku> And a sexy wallpaper, of course
[00:09] <Minataku> Set just for the screenshot occasion
[00:09] <Minataku> But head to the OT channel so stdin can stop throwing his weight around
[00:10] <stdin> stop being off topic and I won't have to
[00:10] <Grav3Mind> so did anyone read my on topic question
[00:10] <Grav3Mind> thats not about compiz
[00:11] <Grav3Mind> i posted  link that shows you how to change your ubuntu/gnome install of linux to look like OSX
[00:11] <Grav3Mind> but i wanna do it with kubuntu
[00:12] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: Something like this? http://ardchoille42.googlepages.com/kde-osx1.jpg
[00:12] <ubuntu> browser cannot find host, but IRC works...any suggestions?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  oddly enough ive seen others in here asking that.. and i never have seen/herard how/Why thats even possible.
[00:13] <Grav3Mind> looks good to me ardchoille
[00:13] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  this is with all web sites? how about their ip address? can you ping google.com ?
[00:13] <Grav3Mind> thats what i wat
[00:13] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: There's a tutorial for it, look at the last three links here:
[00:13] <ubuntu> pings OK
[00:14] <Grav3Mind> what links?
[00:14] <Dr_willis> so  ' ping google.com '    and  'ping  72.14.207.99 ' both work ubuntu ?
[00:14] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: http://ardchoille42.googlepages.com/
[00:14] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: In that tutorial install "kwin-baghira" and start at step 2, since you don't need to compile baghira.
[00:15] <Grav3Mind> hmmmm
[00:15] <Grav3Mind> guys i have another question
[00:15] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira, then contiue with the tutorial, no need to compile baghira
[00:15] <Minataku> That would be KDE's idiocy
[00:15] <Grav3Mind> how hard would it be to install ubuntu
[00:15] <Grav3Mind> ON the same HDD
[00:15] <Grav3Mind> with kubuntu
[00:15] <ubuntu> pinged with the url and with the ip just fine
[00:15] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:15] <Minataku> KDE requires KDE apps to connect to the internet through it's stupid network manager
[00:16] <Grav3Mind> from konsole?
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  you can easially have 2+ desktops on the same machine.. no need to 'install' 2 whole os's
[00:16] <Grav3Mind> and that works?
[00:16] <Minataku> If it's useless network manager doesn't see the network, neither does any crappy KDE application
[00:16] <ardchoille> Grav3Mind: yes, that will get you the ubuntu desktop
[00:16] <Grav3Mind> cause i want gnome
[00:16] <Minataku> You know, because useless abstraction layers are all the rage
[00:16] <Dr_willis> then the login screen has a menu to pick what desktop.  No haxoring needed like in windows - to change desktps here
[00:16] <ubuntu> works
[00:16] <ardchoille> yes, ubuntu-desktop is the gnome desktop
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  then install 'ubuntu-desktop' set it to use GDM when it asks if you want to use gdm.
[00:16] <corinth> Anyone know how I can set my desktop folder launchers to open in dolphin instead of konqurer?
[00:17] <Grav3Mind> awesome!!! so just run that command and let it go?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[00:17] <Grav3Mind> i love linux ^_^
[00:17] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:17] <ubuntu> thanks
[00:17] <Dr_willis> corinth,  follow those directions (only in reverse) :)
[00:17] <Dr_willis> What ever is on top is the default.
[00:18] <Grav3Mind> heres hoping nothing screws up when i run this command! lol
[00:19] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  you are thinking in 'windows terms' again. :)
[00:19] <vit_> lamorena_89_42@hotmail.com
[00:19] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  on a clean kubuntu install one of the first things i install is Ubuntu-desktop. and even xubuntu-desktop
[00:19] <Minataku> Ew
[00:19] <Dr_willis> and mc, and 100 other packages. :) i got a script
[00:19] <Grav3Mind> so would it be sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[00:19]  * Dr_willis installs Vice for Minataku 
[00:20] <Minataku> ?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  if you wanted the Xfce desktop yes. thats xubuntu
[00:20] <corinth> Dr_willis: I have a link to my external drive on my desktop, and I can't get it to auto open with dolphin instead of konq
[00:20] <Grav3Mind> i friggin love linux
[00:20] <vit_> lamorena_89_42@hotmail.com
[00:20] <Grav3Mind> lol
[00:20] <Grav3Mind> im a long time linux user
[00:20] <Minataku> If you want what you saw in my desktop screenshot, that's Fluxbox
[00:20] <Dr_willis> corinth,   i never touch dolphin. so cant help ya there.
[00:20] <Grav3Mind> theres only one reason i still have to use windows
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> actually two
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> some games and itunes
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> thats ALL
[00:21] <Krickey> ew, itunes
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> i like itunes for one reason
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> because when i burn a cd
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> once a year lol
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> it lets me do volume normalizing so that ALL the songs are the same volume
[00:21] <Grav3Mind> thats ALL
[00:22] <Dr_willis> i make it a point to have as little to do with APPLE as possible. :)
[00:22] <Grav3Mind> and the other game that doesnt work is called Hero online and maple story
[00:22] <Krickey> oh lord
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  im pretty sure ive seen that feature in other tools as well.
[00:22]  * Krickey leaves the crazy mapple story person
[00:22] <Minataku> Apple is ten times as evil as Microsoft
[00:22] <bobfarley> so its not all closed source that's hated.
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Then again. i never notice the problem with my Kenny G. Mix's :P
[00:22] <Grav3Mind> lol hush krickey
[00:22] <Minataku> Apple's "open source" is a flaming joke
[00:23] <Krickey> mapple story is possible worse than runescape
[00:23] <moofoo> !info mp3gain | Grav3Mind
[00:23] <Krickey> it's more colorful, but sooooo repetitive
[00:23] <moofoo> :)
[00:23] <Minataku> Krickey: "Maple" has only one "P"
[00:23] <ubotu> grav3mind: mp3gain: Lossless mp3 normalizer with statistical analysis. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.6-5 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 160 kB
[00:23] <Grav3Mind> ummm no it it sint
[00:23] <Grav3Mind> awesome ill get it right now
[00:23] <Grav3Mind> can i get it in adept?
[00:24] <moofoo> yes
[00:24] <Krickey> mapple has as many p's as i feel like typing :P
[00:24] <Tarin> does anyone know how to repair apt-get
[00:24] <Grav3Mind> ok ubuntu desktop finished
[00:24] <hydrogen> apple and microsoft are off topic here.
[00:24] <bobfarley> maplestory has alot of users
[00:24] <Krickey> and yes it is :)
[00:24] <Grav3Mind> its asking me to configure it
[00:24] <Grav3Mind> is there anything i should do imparticular
[00:24] <Tarin> i added a bad repos and now i cant use apt or adept
[00:24] <Grav3Mind> its the blue and grey screen inside console
[00:25] <Krickey> i tried it before, it was completely full of fail, but whatever floats short-attentioned span peoples boats
[00:26] <Grav3Mind> its not in the adept installer
[00:26] <Grav3Mind> *googling*
[00:26] <Dr_willis> maplestory was an amuseing little diversion a week ago..:) played it for about 2 hrs..  befor the kids took it away from me
[00:26] <stdin> Grav3Mind: use adept manager, not adept installer
[00:28] <khumba_yo> Tarin - did you repair your / etc / apt / sources.list ? just let all inofficial repos out of it (put comment marks like ## at the beginning )
[00:30] <Tarin> khumba_yo: how do i do that i am pretty new to this sorry
[00:31] <K`zan_800> Hi folks, got a problem with mounting an NFS directory, it mounts fine everywhere else here (deb, gentoo, fedora) but keeps telling me "wrong fs type, bad option..." any thoughts?  Portmap is installed.  TIA.  I can ssh into that box   wiith no prroblemsm, FWIW.
[00:31] <K`zan_800> Yes, this box is in /etc/exports there and it has been exported.
[00:32] <t4m1n0> how would I find dec numbers with regular expression? for example, this is dec number: 1234  What would regular expression looked like for dec number ?
[00:32] <Grav3Mind> if im on the kde or gnome desktop will something i install affect the other one?
[00:32] <Grav3Mind> or are they seperaate
[00:32] <Grav3Mind> *seperate
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  you pick what one to loging to from the Login screen
[00:34] <Dr_willis> You can easially run kde and gnome apps on each others desktop
[00:34] <Dr_willis> Ive seen no hassles with mixxing the2
[00:34] <Grav3Mind> yeah but im saying if i install compiz on kde will it install on gnome
[00:34] <hydrogen> however
[00:34] <Dr_willis> It used to be ages ago. there were some issues.
[00:34] <hydrogen> using gnome has been proven to halve your IQ
[00:34] <hydrogen> so I'd suggest doing it only has a last resort
[00:35] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  you dont install compiz on kde or gnome. :) you ENABLE it for gnome or kde. its installed to the OS.
[00:35] <Dr_willis> Gnome is a bit easier to enable compiz with.
[00:35] <Grav3Mind> ahh ok
[00:35] <hydrogen> half*... as you can see, I used gnome once
[00:35] <khumba_yo> Tarin - this site might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/add-applications/C/index.html
[00:35] <Dr_willis> one issue with using compiz on KDE, and gnome both.. is that the compiz settings get shared btween both desktops. So wiggly windows off under gnome..will also turn them off when you log into KDE and enable compiz
[00:36] <khumba_yo> .. or have you ever used an editor to edit a text file?
[00:36] <Minataku> The wallpaper from that screenshot is on my webspace now
[00:37] <Minataku> It's the first link, avoid the second one unless you're 18 or older >.>
[00:37] <Minataku> Or maybe I'll just take that one down instead
[00:37] <Minataku> Okay, done
[00:38] <Minataku> It wasn't that bad, just a little bit of cheesecake-style hentai
[00:38] <Minataku> lol
[00:38] <Grav3Mind> well its done
[00:38] <Grav3Mind> should i logout and see if everything went fine
[00:39] <Minataku> Very light stuff it was... :3
[00:41]  * Minataku meows
[00:41] <Minataku> See what happens when you complain about offtopic? The channel goes quiet.
[00:41] <Minataku> :P
[00:42]  * khumba_yo barks
[00:46] <Gargoyle76> can anyone help me w/ toshiba laptop pwr Fn key controls and the like...or at least point me in the right dir
[00:46] <Minataku> !fnfxd
[00:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fnfxd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:46] <Minataku> !info fnfxd
[00:46] <ubotu> fnfxd: ACPI and hotkey daemon for Toshiba laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-12ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386)
[00:47] <Minataku> There ya go
[00:47] <Minataku> Enjoy, fellow Toshiba user
[00:47] <Minataku> :D
[00:48] <Gargoyle76> ummm...still learning(but LOVING!)....how do I implement it?
[00:48] <Minataku> Install it, then look up the documentation
[00:48] <Gargoyle76> is it in adept?
[00:48] <Gargoyle76> oh...ok
[00:49] <khumba_yo> Gargoyle76 - which toshiba model is it?
[00:49] <Tarin> khumba_yo: i have used text editors in windows
[00:50] <Minataku> Fnfxd will handle any model of Toshiba laptop
[00:50] <Minataku> Though I've got four Toshibas
[00:50] <Gargoyle76> i've been having trouble...it says it's installed...but i can't tell
[00:50] <Minataku> T1200, Satellite 100CS, Satellite 305CDS and Satellite A25-S207
[00:50] <khumba_yo> maybe you can find help there: http://tuxmobil.org/toshiba.html
[00:51] <Gargoyle76> Satellite M45-S169
[00:52] <Minataku> My main system is the Satellite A25-S207 :D
[00:53] <Gargoyle76> how do I manipulate it?
[00:53] <Minataku> With the Fn key
[00:53] <Minataku> lol
[00:53] <Gargoyle76> man I am a nube
[00:53] <vit__> HOLA
[00:53] <Gargoyle76> ha ha ha....
[00:53] <Gargoyle76> thpppppppppppttttttttttt
[00:53] <vit_> fabiola82_68@hotmail.com
[00:54] <Gargoyle76> ho can I tell if it's working
[00:54] <Minataku> Well, certain combinations do different things
[00:54] <Minataku> Like change the video output
[00:55] <Minataku> Or lock the fan on
[00:55] <Gargoyle76> I got nuthin'
[00:55] <Minataku> Is it actually running?
[00:55] <khumba_yo> Tarin - you have to start an editor like kate with the root-privilege - i mean "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:55] <Minataku> It's a daemon, it has to be running to work
[00:55] <Gargoyle76> ok...how do I start it?
[00:56] <Minataku> Look up the documentation
[00:56] <Minataku> I can't tell you how to enable services in Kubuntu
[00:56] <Minataku> I don't use Kubuntu
[00:56] <Minataku> lol
[00:56] <Minataku> !init
[00:56] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[00:56] <Minataku> That "bum" package or update-rc.d
[00:56] <Grav3Mind> woot!!! i installed the ubuntu desktop on my kubuntu install ^_^
[00:56] <Minataku> This way fnfxd will start on boot
[00:57] <Grav3Mind> anyone know where i can configure workspace switcher
[00:57] <stansmith> ls
[00:57] <Gargoyle76> oh...k
[00:57] <stansmith> omg woops!!!!!!!! LOLOL
[00:58] <Grav3Mind> and why are there all sorts of special effects in gnome ...i havnt enabled compiz
[00:58] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  normally you an right click on the little desktop pager to set settings..
[00:58] <Grav3Mind> does it come that way?
[00:58] <Dr_willis> IF using compiz however. you Must use the ccsm tool and its general->dektops tab
[00:58] <Grav3Mind> wel theres only how many desktops i want
[00:59] <Grav3Mind> i wanna change the effect
[00:59] <Grav3Mind> its just sliding back and fourth
[00:59] <Grav3Mind> i want like a cube effect
[00:59] <Grav3Mind> or something else
[01:00] <Dr_willis> The ccsm tool sets all sorts of the advanced settings
[01:00] <Dr_willis> !find ccsm
[01:01] <angasule> !forwarding
[01:01] <ubotu> File ccsm found in compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forwarding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[01:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:01] <angasule> !forward
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forward - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <Dr_willis> install  compizconfig-settings-manager  and check out the   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion  site
[01:01] <angasule> grr, can anyone tell me how to forward all traffic going through a kubuntu machine, to a gateway?
[01:03] <Grav3Mind> so compiz is enable and install by dafult on ubuntu
[01:03] <khumba_yo> Tarin - this page should be worth reading if youre an absolute beginner : http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/index/C/index.html
[01:04] <Dr_willis> Grav3Mind,  when you intall ubuntu from the cd's yes.
[01:05] <Grav3Mind> what about thru the konsole command
[01:05] <Dr_willis> what console command
[01:05] <khumba_yo> bye @ll - gn8
[01:06] <Dr_willis> Ive never noticed if compiz is enabled as part of the ubuntu-desktop package or not.
[01:06] <Dr_willis> if its not you can install it.
[01:06] <Dr_willis>  compizconfig-settings-manager  is NOT installed by default in any case.
[01:07] <william_> how can i enable vnc in k?
[01:08]  * bobesponja_ is back.
[01:08] <william_>  /nice nonewmsgs
[01:08] <william_> nick nonewmsgs
[01:09] <Dr_willis> There is the desktop shareing feature under.. Hmm.. the settings menus somewhere.. heh...
[01:09] <nonewmsgs> i enabled it in gnome and it works fine there but if im in kde then conection refused and i cant find it.  i tried to find something to add/remove as a frontend but they're all gnome (surprisingly?)
[01:10] <Dr_willis> kcontrol->Internet -> desktop shareing.
[01:10]  * nonewmsgs thanks the good doctor
[01:10] <Dr_willis> I rarely share the current desktop. I normally run vncserver manually and have a seperate desktop for whatever i want to share. :)
[01:11] <Dr_willis> i find that gnome and kde both are a bit sluggish when used under vnc. I tend to use vncserver set to run fluxbox, or jwm, or icewm
[01:11] <nonewmsgs> well i like to pretend to be social with my family so i watch tv while using my laptop to conect to one of my "main computers"
[01:15] <bmk789> moofoo: got my remote working, thanks for the help
[01:16] <Gargoyle76> Minataku - U still there?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  You can also use xming and the xdmcp stuff. or freenx - dependong on your  OS and needs. :)
[01:17] <Gargoyle76> dang
[01:17] <nonewmsgs> i dont even know those ones yet :o
[01:18] <Minataku> Yes
[01:18] <Dr_willis> with 2 linux machines (or other ways) you can have X have an app run on one machine. but appear on a different machines display. :)
[01:18]  * jessy_james buona notte a tutti
[01:19] <lockd> Dr_willis: that can be hellishly slow though
[01:19] <Dr_willis> lockd,  yep it can. ;)
[01:19] <Dr_willis> when i copy files to files - its noticeable. Im using xchat now over xdmcp with xming.
[01:19] <Gargoyle76> I can't get the service to start
[01:19] <moofoo> bmk789: sweet.. what was it? (for reference?)
[01:21] <bmk789> moofoo: nvidia RF remote, works now as mouse and controls amarok, kaffeine, etc
[01:21] <bmk789> wait
[01:21] <Gargoyle76> *gone*
[01:21] <moofoo> bmk789: i meant how did you fix it ;
[01:21] <moofoo> ;)
[01:21] <bmk789> i realized that once i sent the message
[01:22] <bmk789> shoulda taken a second glace
[01:22] <nonewmsgs> you know what i would really, really like to do?  i remember back when i was in college i used to map a network drive between 2 NT machines and use napster to download straight to a remote drive, and i could play them from that drive the same way.  i want to know if i can set up a machine to basically just handle the 2nd part of that to both windows and 'nix
[01:22] <nonewmsgs> like a magic remote folder that pretends to be local.
[01:22] <Minataku> !samba
[01:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:22] <Tarin> why wont Kate let me save
[01:22] <bmk789> um, i just had to purge lirc then reinstall and use the default config, and use the right remote in irkick
[01:23] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  thers dozens of tools/ways to do that. :)
[01:23] <Minataku> If you're editing a file that you don't have permission to write to, you can't save it
[01:23] <Minataku> Same if you're trying to save a file to a directory that you don't have write access to
[01:23] <moofoo> bmk789: i see .. so the "it could have worked in the first place approach" ;-)
[01:23] <Tarin> but i am the only user
[01:23] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  check out  the samba fuse tool. for samba. :) thers a ssh fuse tool that dioes it for ssh connections, and a ftp fuse for ftp servers...
[01:24] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  all of them make  a remote machine/service appear as a local dir.
[01:24] <BluesKaj> Tarin, did you open kate with your password or kdesu
[01:24] <Minataku> There are always two users on a Unix machine (or at least should be)
[01:24] <Minataku> root, and a non-privliged user
[01:24] <Minataku> root is ONLY FOR SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION
[01:24] <Dr_willis> and bgates  :)
[01:24]  * Dr_willis ducks.
[01:24] <bmk789> moofoo: yep, i didnt expect the config to be the same as the remote listed so i kept trying other configs only to have the right one under my nose the whole time
[01:24] <Minataku> The non-privliged user is what you always use for everything else
[01:25] <nonewmsgs> is it still real hard?  the last time i messed with samba i was having man-sized issues
[01:25] <Tarin> ok so how do i get access to save in files
[01:25] <brad12345> is there a way to manage/force antialiasing and anisotropic filtering?  i'm not able to find a setting for it
[01:25] <BluesKaj> Tarin, how did you open the file ?
[01:25] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  i never found it real hard.. but i did read the 'using samba' book. :)
[01:26] <Tarin> went to user folders then to the root folder
[01:26] <Dr_willis> brad12345,  i thought there was sone nvidia-* tool that could do that.. (but ive never messed with those settings)
[01:26] <Tarin> in konqueror
[01:27] <nonewmsgs> is using samba a free ebook or one of those expensive things like i sell all day at work
[01:27] <brad12345> hmm, yah and i have an ati card... you think that tool would work maybe?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> Tarin,  what are you tryign to do exactly?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[01:27] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 6816 kB, installed size 14752 kB
[01:27] <Dr_willis> nonewmsgs,  is in the samba-doc package.. and some other books also are in there. :)
[01:27] <nonewmsgs> sweetness
[01:27] <Tarin> i added an svn to my apt repo not thinking about it
[01:28] <Tarin> now i need to delete it or comment it out
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Tarin,  'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and change it.
[01:28] <Dr_willis> thats the easy way
[01:28] <BluesKaj> Tarin, copy the file path , beginning with the first / and open the k-menu , choose run command and type kdesu kate /pathtofilename
[01:28] <Dr_willis> or like BluesKaj  says use kdesu and a graphical editor.
[01:30] <Tarin> i used the konsole
[01:30] <Tarin> i want to get as used to using the command line as much as possible
[01:30] <BluesKaj> then do Dr_willis' suggestion
[01:30]  * Dr_willis gives Tarin  a Gold Star
[01:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:32] <BluesKaj> it makes no diff it's still going open kate no matter what , i see no advantage to the cli for opening and editing files,but this is an old windows dude talking :)
[01:32] <brad12345> I'm a super linux noob and i must say: linux is pretty awesome
[01:33] <Dr_willis> If he ever has a case where X is dead.. now he knows how to use nano. :)
[01:33] <brad12345> what is the best way / program to compile source code??
[01:33] <Dr_willis> brad12345,  with a text editor? and  a C compiler?
[01:33] <BluesKaj> yeah , ok
[01:34] <NickPresta> brad12345, we need more information to help you better
[01:34] <nonewmsgs> i like anjuta
[01:34] <Dr_willis> brad12345,  you might watn to clarify the question a bit. :)
[01:34] <brad12345> i've been trying though the konsole with ./configure
[01:34] <brad12345> hmm
[01:34] <Dr_willis> ./confogure is normally used as part of source code packages.. yes...
[01:34] <Dr_willis> it then makes a config file after checking a lot of things , for make to use.
[01:34] <Minataku> I used to use Windows, but I do everything from the CLI
[01:34] <brad12345> okay
[01:35] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: Actually, the configure script makes the makefile itself
[01:35] <Minataku> The downside is that the guy who made the program has to make the configure script
[01:35] <Minataku> If it doesn't come with one, you have to hope it's all in place
[01:35] <Minataku> My luck compiling things without configure scripts is about 40%
[01:35] <Dr_willis> Yep :) saw a configyure script once that required tcsh (i think) which confused the heck out of me for a bit...
[01:36] <brad12345> okay...i;ve had pretty poor goings so far.  but from what i've read it can be a tricky process
[01:36] <Dr_willis> brad12345,  what can be tricky? gettibng  basic C stuff compiling, and written?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> Minataku, I've encountered quite a few tarballs that don't come with a configure script or make or even make install scripts ...they have 'install' scripts
[01:37] <brad12345> well, for instance, downloading a tar.gz file from sourceforge and then trying to get it into a working app
[01:38] <Dr_willis> brad12345,  rather straight forward.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> gee.. a dcc offer.. how nice of you Barbecue
[01:38] <NickPresta> Dr_willis, I was thinking the same thing. I don't need 8 copies of "mirc.ini"
[01:38] <Minataku> Heh
[01:38] <Dr_willis> NickPresta,  i only got offered 3!
[01:38] <Dr_willis> :P
[01:39] <Minataku> Barbecue: Send it here, I want to pick it apart and see what you're spreading
[01:39] <Minataku> You know, for the report to the police
[01:57] <eproletariat> hello
[02:00] <BluDog_Anchorite> hello world
[02:00] <eproletariat> hi
[02:00] <BluDog_Anchorite> testing rhapsody.  ncurses based irc client
[02:06] <Grav3Mind> hey guys what was the command line to install Xubuntu from console?
[02:08] <BluDog_Anchorite> Grav3Mind, dont you need to boot to a cd to install it ?
[02:08] <Grav3Mind> nope
[02:08] <Grav3Mind> just the desktop environment
[02:08] <Grav3Mind> does anyone know
[02:08] <bazhang> Grav3Mind: you mean xubuntu-desktop?
[02:08] <Grav3Mind> yes
[02:09] <Grav3Mind> i got it
[02:09] <Grav3Mind> nvm
[02:09] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install
[02:10] <BluDog_Anchorite> what WM does xubuntu use ?
[02:10] <Grav3Mind> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <scooter_> ok i need a major hand from someone who knows what they're doing
[02:10] <Grav3Mind> its that actually
[02:10] <NickPresta> scooter_, ask your question. Those who know will try to help :)
[02:11] <scooter_> i got an install package for flashplayer, and its not installing
[02:11] <scooter_> well, it is but its not installing completely
[02:11] <scooter_> parts of it are left out
[02:12] <bazhang> BluDog_Anchorite: xfce
[02:12] <BluDog_Anchorite> like the plugin you have to copy by hand to the ./.mozilla dir ?
[02:12] <scooter_> but i dont have mozilla
[02:12] <scooter_> i just use konqueror
[02:12] <scooter_> and i dont know how to donwload anything for kubuntu
[02:13] <BluDog_Anchorite> well, if lynx would ever time out, i could check the package name
[02:13] <NickPresta> !flash | scooter_
[02:13] <ubotu> scooter_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:13] <NickPresta> have you tried that, scooter_
[02:14] <BluDog_Anchorite> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[02:14] <BluDog_Anchorite> er flashplugin-nonfree . my bad
[02:16] <scooter_> i dont even know what distribution i have
[02:17] <scooter_> im really pathetic when it comes to linux
[02:17] <NickPresta> scooter_, did you install your distribution?
[02:19] <scooter_> yea, but i dont have the cd on me anymore and i forgot what i installed
[02:19] <scooter_> but i think its 6.06
[02:20] <Grav3Mind> i just downloaded the Xubuntu desktop on my kubuntu installation
[02:21] <scooter_> ok yes kubuntu 6.06
[02:21] <Greythane> checkout   http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[02:21] <Greythane> download the .gz, extract it and install it
[02:24] <scooter_> ok i extracted it, but all i get is a shared library, and unknown and a shell script file
[02:26] <BluDog_Anchorite> this irc client feels like nano
[02:26] <mneptok> uh ...
[02:26] <BluDog_Anchorite> rhapsody
[02:27] <BluDog_Anchorite> i think i like irssi better
[02:27] <Greythane> run the shell script
[02:28] <scooter_> with what
[02:28] <scooter_> konsole?
[02:30] <Greythane> yes.. sorry.. run konsole, cd to the extract directory and then ./flashplayer-installer
[02:31] <scooter_> how do i cd to the extract directory
[02:31] <scooter_> i feel like an idiot im sorry
[02:32] <Greythane> if you downloaded to your home directory/desktop then
[02:32] <scooter_> i saved it on desktop
[02:32] <Greythane> cd /home/(myusername)/desktop/(flashdir)
[02:33] <Greythane> you might need 'Desktop' if it barfs.. case sensitive
[02:34] <Greythane> cd /home/scooter/Desktop/flash-install or similar
[02:35] <scooter_> ok
[02:35] <Grav3Mind> can anyone see the links here
[02:35] <scooter_> im in the dir
[02:36] <Grav3Mind> http://svn.xgl-coffee.org/xgl-coffee/trunk/startxgl
[02:36] <Greythane> type in ./flash-installer (enter) and you shoud see things happen
[02:36] <angelv> hi
[02:36] <Grav3Mind> i need the   xgl-startup-script for Xfce session
[02:37] <Grav3Mind> but its all blank
[02:37] <angelv> I try to install the nvidia drivers on 7.10, I intall all correct, but I reboot my systems I no start X, I need re-install drivers
[02:37] <angelv> any problem report?
[02:37] <scooter_> i dont have mozilla installed
[02:37] <scooter_> where can i get it
[02:38] <scooter_> and who can talk me through installing it
[02:38] <ryan-c> any way i can figure out why my screensaver won't start?
[02:38] <Tarin> any one here use compiz and emerald theme manager
[02:38] <NickPresta> scooter_, use Adept to install applications
[02:38] <scooter_> ok
[02:38] <NickPresta> Tarin, I use Compiz-Fusion and Emerald
[02:38] <Tarin> i was looking at the themes in emerald but how do i actually apply them
[02:39] <Greythane> scooter - xubuntu? correct?
[02:39] <NickPresta> Tarin, you should just click on them. The changes should be instant
[02:39] <scooter_> kubuntu
[02:39] <Greythane> KMenu > system > Adept then filter for firefox
[02:40] <BluDog_Anchorite> so, is e17 in a repo yet, or do i still need to build it by hand ?
[02:40] <scooter_> it says its installed
[02:40] <scooter_> but i cant find it anywhere on the system
[02:41] <Greythane> KMenu > Internet > ??
[02:42] <scooter_> no just konqueror
[02:42] <scooter_> thats all that i have
[02:42] <Greythane> adept says firefox is installed?
[02:42] <scooter_> yea
[02:42] <BluDog_Anchorite> try typing firefox in a terminal
[02:43] <Greythane> .. or KMenu > run
[02:43] <BluDog_Anchorite> asuming he is using K
[02:43] <scooter_> i tried run
[02:43] <scooter_> it doesnt work
[02:43] <Greythane> kubuntu :)
[02:43] <tyan> how can you get a terminal to automatically be logged in as a certain user... and in a certain directory.....  `getty -n -l /bin/bash 38400 tty9` works but its in the /dev directory, not home
[02:44] <Tarin> does it say installed or install?
[02:44] <scooter_> installed
[02:44] <scooter_> under status right?
[02:44] <scooter_> like im looking in the right place?
[02:44] <Tarin> have you applied at the top of the screen?
[02:45] <scooter_> apply isnt available
[02:45] <scooter_> i didnt change n e thing
[02:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> what does   sudo apt-get install firefox   say
[02:46] <NickPresta> scooter_, open up a Konsole (alt + F2 and type in konsole). Then type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:46] <Grav3Mind> anyone know where i can get  xgl-startup-script for Xfce session
[02:47] <scooter_> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:47] <NickPresta> scooter_, you have to close Adept
[02:47] <scooter_> my bad
[02:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> killall adept && sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:48] <scooter_> it says that it couldnt' be found
[02:48] <scooter_> ?
[02:48] <scooter_> refered to by another package
[02:49] <BluDog_Anchorite> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[02:49] <scooter_> following packages replace it: libnss3
[02:49] <scooter_> same thing
[02:50] <scooter_> i cant just get a package and install it?
[02:50] <Grav3Mind> can anyone help me? no one in Xubuntu will help at all
[02:50] <Grav3Mind> #xubuntu that is
[02:50] <NickPresta> scooter_, most GNU+Linux distributions don't work that way. You use your package manager.
[02:50] <Grav3Mind> i just need one file
[02:50] <NickPresta> Grav3Mind, ask in #compiz-fusion
[02:50] <Grav3Mind> or lines of code rather
[02:51] <Grav3Mind> ah ok thanks !!!
[02:51] <scooter_> yea thas what i was affraid of
[02:51] <scooter_> it says its installed though
[02:51] <NickPresta> scooter_, is there any reason you're using Kubuntu 6.06?
[02:51] <scooter_> yea, it was the only version i had
[02:51] <NickPresta> scooter, why don't you upgrade?
[02:51] <scooter_> idk how
[02:51] <scooter_> i feel like a nooooob
[02:51] <NickPresta> !upgrade > NickPresta
[02:52] <scooter_> how do i upgrade
[02:52] <NickPresta> scooter_, are you sure you have Kubuntu 6.06? Open up Konsole and run "lsb_release -a"
[02:52] <Dragnslcr> Upgrading from 6.06 could take a while
[02:52] <BluDog_Anchorite> im using 6.06 just cause i want ot wait till end of life for the LTS
[02:52] <scooter_> acutally i found the disk
[02:53] <scooter_> its kubuntu 6.06
[02:53] <scooter_> 6.06.1
[02:53] <Dragnslcr> It would probably be faster to download a 7.10 CD and do a clean install
[02:53] <scooter_> ok, can you talk me through that?
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> !download
[02:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[02:54] <Greythane> use adept > fetch updates > then should be able to > Full Upgrade, as well
[02:54] <BluDog_Anchorite> what is the next version up with the longest projected life cycle
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> Greythane- I don't think that works in 6.06
[02:54] <NickPresta> BluDog_Anchorite, hardy+1, I believe
[02:54] <BluDog_Anchorite> is there going to be another LTS distro ?
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> BluDog_Anchorite- 8.04 will be an LTS release
[02:55] <Greythane> oh, ok.. have not used for yonks :)
[02:55] <Greythane> scooter.. beware - a full reinstall will wipe you home directory so backup
[02:55] <NickPresta> BluDog_Anchorite, ah. Listen to Dragnslcr. Hardy is going to be an LTS
[02:55] <scooter_> im not seeing >full upgrade
[02:56] <lockd> Dragnslcr: hmm, when will that be out?
[02:56] <NickPresta> !hardy | lockd
[02:56] <ubotu> lockd: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:56] <NickPresta> lockd, the 8 corresponds to the year, 04 to the month.
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> lockd- Wild guess, but 8.04 should be released in April 2008
[02:56] <lockd> oh, right
[02:57] <BluDog_Anchorite> im trying to get away from the bleeding edge distro, just based on the fact all my hardware is old, and i dont have time to rebuild sysems every 6 months
[02:57] <scooter_> so how do i get the update from adept?
[02:58] <BluDog_Anchorite> scooter. go online, google kubuntu 7.10. download it.  burn it with k3b
[02:58] <scooter_> ok thanks
[02:58] <BluDog_Anchorite> always best to have a hard copy on hand
[02:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> net installs are convenient, but extra discs come in handy
[02:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> imho
[02:59] <lockd> yes, especially when you lose connectino
[02:59] <lockd> *ion
[02:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> yep
[02:59] <BluDog_Anchorite> or a mirror is down, and you need a package
[03:00] <lockd> are packages in ISOs updated?
[03:01] <lockd> it's annoying when I get lots from CD to save bandwidth, then I need updates immediately
[03:02] <BluDog_Anchorite> lockd.  iso is not updated
[03:08] <BluesKaj> it's amazing in this day and age that ppl still have download caps
[03:09] <Tarin> how well does upgrading to a new version work when done from inside kubuntu
[03:10] <Greythane> I have had no real problems (yet)
[03:10] <Tarin> cool does compiz work better in gutsy than feisty?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> my last network upgrade failed 3 times , unfortunately , but the fault was mine for not waiting for a few days for the internet traffic to my sources to let up
[03:12] <Greythane> currently using compiz-fusion. took a bit of fiddling but works great on my compaq notebook
[03:13] <Tarin> cool cause in feisty i cant seem to apply the themes from emerald
[03:13] <Tarin> unless i am a total noob and not doing it right lol
[03:15] <Greythane> no idea.. just make sure xgl & compiz are running then select emerald them for settings.
[03:15] <Tarin> how can i tell if they are running
[03:17] <scooter_> ok thanks for your help everyone
[03:17] <Greythane> in konsole > ps ax | grep xgl
[03:18] <Greythane> hope you sort it out scooter. You'll like once you get things running
[03:18] <Tarin> it didnt do anything just went to another line
[03:19] <Tarin> do i need to do the same for compiz?/
[03:19] <Greythane> if compiz is not running in xgl your desktop redraw will be slow (is in my install)
[03:19] <Greythane> if you did not see any details then you are not running xgl.. then emerald will not run etc
[03:20] <Tarin> ok well i did it a second time and got 7746 pts/6 R+ : grep xgl
[03:21] <Greythane> ok.. that's the grep process looking for the xgl info..
[03:22] <Tarin> should i be using a certain engine?
[03:22] <Greythane> should see something like > 5161 ?        S      0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/xserver-xgl/Xgl-lockfile-wrapper
[03:23] <Tarin> can i get xgl from adept
[03:23] <VulcanRidr> Couple of Kubuntu questions.
[03:24] <Greythane> yes..  replaces xserver as the windows server  (open gl server)
[03:24] <NickPresta> VulcanRidr, how can we help you?
[03:24] <VulcanRidr> First, I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy, and I can't install any kdm themes. I also installed kbfx, but I can't install any themes.
[03:25] <NickPresta> VulcanRidr, where are you installing the themes from? Could you install themes in Feisty?
[03:26] <VulcanRidr> Yes I could, and the ones I had installed work, but I can't install new ones. I am downloading to my desktop and installing from the system settings menu. (appearance).
[03:26] <Tarin> can i stop the upgrade without breaking my feisty?/
[03:26]  * genii sips
[03:27] <NickPresta> VulcanRidr, are you downloading the themes from kde-look.org or something? Can I download the theme and test it on my system?
[03:27] <Greythane> VulcanRidr - I had to install the kdetheme manager - not included in the gutsy defaults (that I could find)
[03:28] <VulcanRidr> Yes I am. The kdm theme I downloaded this evening was 69034-kdmflower.tar.gz, and I untarred that and tried to install 3dkdmflower.tar.gz
[03:30] <Greythane> you will have to extract the gz and end up with a directory & ca .kth file which is the theme configuration
[03:30] <NickPresta> VulcanRidr, are you talking about: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/3dKdmflower?content=69034 ?
[03:30] <VulcanRidr> Greythane: I have kdmtheme installed. A holdover from Feisty.
[03:31] <VulcanRidr> Yes, that is the theme, NickPresta.
[03:33] <NickPresta> VulcanRidr, what error do you get?
[03:35] <VulcanRidr> No error, just the theme does not show up in the list after I click "install theme" and select the theme.
[03:36] <NickPresta> Do you get a message box about override file warning?
[03:37] <VulcanRidr> I did...I just noticed that because it popped under the main window. Whats do I need to change?
[03:38] <NickPresta> Well, apparently, the kdm theme manager isn't updating a file in /etc/default/kdm.d/ which controls the kdm settings, meaning that any change you make in the kdm theme manager section won't work. This (appears) to be a bug
[03:39] <VulcanRidr> And does that apply to kbfx? (I installed kbfx-Silk)
[03:39] <VulcanRidr> And it works on my Debian box.
[03:39] <NickPresta> I don't know about your kbfx issue. That is probably something totally unrelated to the kdm theme issue.
[03:40] <VulcanRidr> Okay. Thats what I was checking, because it behaves the same way.
[03:45] <VulcanRidr> Guys, thanks for the help.
[03:48] <scooter_> does anyone know how to install step mania
[04:03] <scooter_> does anyone know how to install stepmania?
[04:17] <deank> !pastebin | deank
[04:19] <genii> scooter_: What is stepmania?
[04:21] <genii> nvm, http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?search_distro_id=5&keywords=gamepads
[04:21] <genii> stepmania deb there
[04:24] <scooter_> thanks
[04:26] <vbgunz_> anyone know what could keep my screensaver from coming up on it's own? I have it set for 1 minute and do not have any media players running. I don't see anything that can interfere with it. anyone know whats up?
[04:28] <vbgunz_> I don't have compiz or anything else either...
[04:35] <Rukus> does anyone know how to enable your TV out, with an ATI xpress 200m card, without making my laptop screen 640x480. its rather frustrating, i have restored my xorg.conf several times already!
[04:36] <lockd> vbgunz_: does the screen turn off before the screensaver has time to kick in?
[04:36] <ubuntu> k
[04:38] <Tarin> where do i get xgl?
[04:39] <Tarin> its not  listed in my adept?
[04:39] <hydrogen> why do you want xgl?
[04:39] <vbgunz_> lockd: nothing. I just installed some xscreensaver stuff, see if that works
[04:42] <vbgunz_> nope, nothing comes on in a minute
[04:42] <vbgunz_> heh, going to try something else
[04:48] <vbgunz_> lockd: something I did fixed it. found 2 possible solutions at this thread http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087392.0
[04:50] <vbgunz_> removing the xscreensaver packages, hopefully the tweak in kdesktoprc fixed it. testing it now
[04:51] <lockd> screensaver has really one purpose, autolocking the session
[04:51] <vbgunz_> lockd: yeah, the tweak to the file did the trick
[04:56] <posingaspopular> !paste
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[04:59] <posingaspopular> can anyone help me mount this ipod I have. error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46197/ release, gutsy.
[05:03] <vbgunz_> anyone know how I can run a sudo command during startup *without* having to enter any passwords? I just wa
[05:03] <awag> hello everyone
[05:03] <Dr_willis> vbgunz_,  which startup? the rc.local can run commands at boot up. they get ran as root.
[05:03] <vbgunz_> sorry, I just need to run something but I need to run it with sudo permission. I just don't want to have to enter my password every boot up :(
[05:04] <posingaspopular> vbgunz_: it's possible
[05:04] <posingaspopular> let me google up the answer
[05:04] <awag> anyone know why open office suddenly stopped getting decorated by my kde-window-decorator ?
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> sudo visodu
[05:04] <vbgunz_> well, X has to be loaded... I guess it is during the loading X process
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> can set no password in there
[05:04] <Dr_willis> vbgunz_,  what are you trying to load exactly?
[05:04] <sub[t]rnl> though, i'm sure no one here would recommend it
[05:05] <sub[t]rnl> sudo visudo rather
[05:05] <vbgunz_> I have a problem. storage mediums attached to the system do not show up on the desktop *unless* I mount something. so, if I mount the cdrom then unmount it, they all show up just fine... it's just a workaround
[05:06] <Dr_willis> You can set up sudo. where a user can run commands and not need to enter the root password. Or if you want to be more secure. Youc an set where a user can run SPECIFIC commands with sudo with no password. , or if you want to be INSECURE. you chould set the 'suid' bit on the program and it will get ran as root without need for sudo. (which is a bad idea)
[05:06] <vbgunz_> well, I guess it would be nice if I could run mount and umount without ever having to enter a password
[05:07] <awag> i'm using kde-window-decorator with compiz and the other day open office randomly stopped having window borders attached to it, xchat was doing it for a few days too, then it randomly fixed itself
[05:07] <Dr_willis> vbgunz_,  you can set devices in fstab with the user option where the users can mount/unmount them.
[05:07] <vbgunz_> editing the sudoers file or something like that makes it work?
[05:07] <lockd> isn't that what pmount is for?
[05:07] <awag> anyone know what i can do to fix the problem with openoffice?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> vbgunz_,  then theres the pmount command also.
[05:07] <lockd> awag: is it only openoffice that doesn't get window border? strange
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Of course i always disable all that clutter on the desktop. :)
[05:08] <vbgunz_> Dr_willis: I am not messing with fstab. no matter what I do I can never get it working the way I need it too. honest. I've been through the man, google and everything else. I remember messing with fstab for hours without results. I rather avoid it
[05:08] <awag> lockd, right, just a few days ago i came back to my computer and open office and xchat didn't have borders, now xchat is fixed, it fixed itself, but office is not
[05:09] <vbgunz_> I don't have pmount, I'll look for it
[05:09] <awag> lockd, even if i run kde-window-decorator --replace -a while open office is running, it has no effect
[05:09] <Dr_willis> !info pmount
[05:09] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.16-4 (gutsy), package size 84 kB, installed size 656 kB
[05:09] <vbgunz_> am downloadfing and installing now
[05:10] <vbgunz_> ok checked the help, seems simple, will try
[05:10] <Dr_willis> of course manually mounting things may be goofing up the automounting fetures of kde.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> do the icons apear in media:/ like they are supposed to?
[05:12] <[GhOsT]> hello
[05:13] <[GhOsT]> is there anyone >
[05:13] <[GhOsT]> ?
[05:13] <vbgunz_> lockd: thank you very much for the pmount suggestion. works perfectly!
[05:13] <lockd> Nobody seems to have gotten automount right. Even GRUB chokes on my USB external disk
[05:13] <_gtt_> how do i configure the minimize/maximize sound events?
[05:13] <lockd> and that's not even automount - it just refuses to load
[05:14] <lockd> if lilo had ability to edit bootup commands, I would use that (which does boot regardless of attached media)
[05:15] <vbgunz_> my only issue is getting attached media to show up on the desktop
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Ive seen windows have issues with some usb disks plugged in as well.
[05:16] <sub[t]rnl> _gtt_: kmenu -> System settings -> System Notifications ->  Then change "Event Source" to Kde Window Manager
[05:16] <vbgunz_> I have to this for all accounts. is there a universal Autostart folder that'll affect all users?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> of course   i have some machines that grub does not like their usb keyboards. :P
[05:16] <Dr_willis> vbgunz_,  not that i am aware of.
[05:16] <vbgunz_> Dr_willis: I'll ask in #kde, those guys are real helpful
[05:16] <Dr_willis> vbgunz_,  if you are going to be making new users you may want to alter the /etc/skel/ dir to have the changes in it.
[05:17] <[GhOsT]> I have got a simple question guys
[05:17] <Dr_willis> [GhOsT],  ok...
[05:18] <vbgunz_> Dr_willis: I admit I have plenty to learn in regards to linux.. I just spend too much time learning programming, etc and not my own OS :(
[05:18] <[GhOsT]> I have download 64 bit Gutsy DVD , unfortunately I am not able to run installation with graphics mode
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Dosent the DVD also have the 'text mode' installer?  I thouht it did.
[05:19] <[GhOsT]> text mode installation worked fine but then it is same as installation with graphics mode , black blank screen
[05:19] <Dr_willis> [GhOsT],  and whats your video card?
[05:19] <[GhOsT]> Geforce 8600M GS
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Thats weird. that  card should work fine.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> You will need to install the proper nvidia drivers to get itworking at full speed.
[05:20] <[GhOsT]> did i download wrong edition ?
[05:20] <[GhOsT]> I have got Core2 Duo cpu
[05:20] <dxdt> I tried to install the KDE 4 on Ubuntu 7.10, but it is really messed up.  I know that it is just a RC, so it will have bugs, but is it supposed to be totally messed up and ususable, or just buggy?  Anyone here using it?  Is there something else I need to do besides what Kubuntu's site instructed?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> well theres proberly no need for you to be using the 64bit version.. and the dvd was proberly overkill as well.
[05:21] <[GhOsT]> tried to install 64 bit one , that says amd64 ?
[05:21] <lockd> dxdt: I was unable to install it, something to do with package conflicts
[05:21] <Dr_willis> You may want to download the normal 32bit live cd. and see how well it works. Of course if it also has the issue. You may have to isntall with the 32bit alternative install cd.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> OR you could just try to get this install going
[05:21] <[GhOsT]> I need 64 bit one because I have Core2 Duo 2.2 GHz with 4 GB of RAM
[05:22] <Dr_willis> [GhOsT],   i think 64bit is needed if you have MORE then 4gb of ram.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> that cpu can handle 32bit just fine.
[05:22] <[GhOsT]> under microsoft vista 32 bit , it recognizes only 3 gb
[05:22] <Dr_willis> I may be wrong on that ram part.. but im pretty sure  its over 4gb for linux..
[05:23] <[GhOsT]> when u turn to 64 bit vista , there u get 4 gb support
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Well there may be a catch also with the video ram being part of that 4gb.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> if you insist on 64bit then i guess ya manually intall the nvida drivers and reconfigure X.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> You proberly should install the     nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org drive    package
[05:24] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx '
[05:24] <Dr_willis> then i think ya need to 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' to get the xorg.conf set up right.
[05:25] <[GhOsT]> it sounds like an issue with VEGA driver compability
[05:25] <lockd> Is there any possibility of a graphics card with a real open source driver?
[05:25] <posingaspopular> how do i fix this error in amarok: audio output unavailable: xine parameters unavaialbe
[05:26] <lockd> nvidia works - most of the time
[05:26] <[GhOsT]> it is supposed to
[05:26] <Dr_willis> lockd,  matrox was big on that at one time.. but you dont hear much about them any more.
[05:26] <[GhOsT]> i have a kubuntu 6.10 32 bit CD here too
[05:26] <[GhOsT]> let me try this one also
[05:26] <[GhOsT]> I will be right back
[05:26] <lockd> Dr_willis: I mean reassembly is all fine and good
[05:27] <Dr_willis> ive used several nvidia cards under the different releases and have had no issues.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> But all it takes is for YOU to have an issue..and it can be a real bother. :P
[05:27] <[GhOsT]> Thank you in advance , I wanna try 32 bit one now
[05:27] <[GhOsT]> will be right back
[05:27] <Dr_willis> right back? boy ya got a fast connection to download it that fast. :P
[05:28] <Dr_willis> oh ya allready got the cd.. heh heh..
[05:28] <lockd> I thought 3gb was some sort of limit for 32 bit, not sure if it is universal
[05:28] <[GhOsT]> nope i have it already
[05:28] <[GhOsT]> :-D
[05:28] <[GhOsT]> brb
[05:28] <lockd> there's also the "2012" limit for 32 bit dates, but that is a different story
[05:28] <lockd> (that one I understand)
[05:28] <Dr_willis> lockd,  my gateway machine only came with 3gb. :)
[05:29] <Dr_willis> but i was still thinking id heard it was only an issue for over 4gb.  (at least under linux) it may be 3gb for windows
[05:29] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/11/26/32bit-vs-64bit-ubuntu-that-is-the-question/
[05:33] <Dr_willis> that site has some comments abouyt 64bits i never thought of either..
[05:33] <Dr_willis> not sure how accurate the claims are however. :) reduced battery life, 64bit apps needing more ram. (not sure why that would be) and again the mention of 4gb ram (not 3)
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Well after doing more research on the 4gb ram limit... i found out that.......... its very confusing.. :)
[05:42]  * genii sips a coffee
[05:57] <hydrogen> 4gb of ram is an x86 limit
[05:58] <hydrogen> as for 64bit apps needing more ram.. one possible reason I can think of is that some of the base data sizes are different on a 64bit system from a 32bit, so more memory gets allocated for the same types (I think?)
[06:06] <vbgunz_> man, every bootup, icons ruffle around... the only way to fix it is to disable "align to grid"... aligning to grid again could shuffle them and will definitely shift them all up 1 icon space... frustrating :/
[06:35] <dga> as i keep updating and installing things with adept, i keep getting "Could not commit changes - Adept Batch - There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages." is it normal to see this everytime?
[06:37] <abacka> i have internet connection but cannot access the web with konqueror,can use apt-get and messengers?
[06:38] <sub[t]rnl> dga: try running sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:39] <Rukus> OK, so GOD only knows how i did it, but i enabled Clone mode on my secondary screen! Only problem is, it scrolls the edges, screen is larger than what the TV can output. Running 1280x800 desktop, on a 1024x768 output.  Ok simple? set the default desktop to 1024x768 and the TV out will follow? CORRECT. until i reboot, and find out that it set my xorg.conf to a DEFAULT of 640x480 for BOTH screens! not a fun resolution to work with. Does an
[06:39] <Rukus> anyone know a way to fix this?
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> Rukus: you could edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand and remove any resolutions you don't want
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> be sure to backup a working copy
[06:43] <Crell> Hi all.  I'm having what I think is a repository issue.  I'm trying to install something through PECL (PHP's binary repository), but the pecl binary doesn't seem to be available.  When I aptitude search for pecl, I don't even see a package for it.  Any idea why that might be?  (Kubuntu Gutsy)
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> if you've added a repository you'll need to update apt*
[06:47] <sub[t]rnl> sudo apt-get update
[06:48] <Crell> I haven't added a repository; it should be available along with PHP.  I've also updated apt many a time.
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> what are you trying to install?
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> php-pear?
[06:48] <sub[t]rnl> could be your just looking for the wrong package
[06:49] <Crell> hm.
[06:49] <Crell> OK, that's weird.  I just dpkg -L php-pear, and apparently the pecl binary is there.
[06:49] <Crell> What idjit came up with that idea? :-)
[06:49] <sub[t]rnl> apt-cache search pecl
[06:49] <pjeide> Does anyone know about using AWN under KDE?  I've followed the guides to install all of the various parts, but awn-manager throws Gnome errors under Kubuntu Gutsy http://rafb.net/p/bVlMtL57.html
[06:53] <sub[t]rnl> awn is a launch bar?
[06:53] <Crell> Fascinating.  apt-cache finds things aptitude search does not.
[06:53] <pjeide> yes
[06:53] <pjeide> I can launch avant-window-manager, but it launches in the middle of screen 1 of 2, and an attempt to select preferences from the menu shows "ImportError: could not import gnomevfs" in the console that I launched it from.. how do I switch AWN to look for KDE?
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> i don't have any experience with it personally
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> :/
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> are you running compiz-fusion?
[06:54] <sub[t]rnl> i know you need a compositing window manager
[06:55] <pjeide> I am running compiz-fusion, yes
[06:56] <pjeide> with no issues regarding compiz
[06:56] <pjeide> strangely enough the dock bar is functional, just misplaced and inconfigurable through gui or command line
[06:57] <pjeide> there is a configuration line that gets flagged, file not found on line "import gnomedesktop"
[06:57] <pjeide> what might the corresponding kde reference be?
[06:58] <pjeide> kdm?
[06:58] <pjeide> gtk-window-manager?
[06:58] <pjeide> emerald for compiz?
[06:59] <sub[t]rnl> no idea
[07:01] <sub[t]rnl> i run pure kde, so I don't have the directory that error is pointing too
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> -> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py
[07:03] <sub[t]rnl> if that helps anything
[07:04] <sub[t]rnl> i would guess that awn was written from gnome :/
[07:18] <serrucho> somebody knows how to break a password on windows xp pro.?
[07:21] <serrucho> somebody knows how to break a password on windows xp pro.?
[07:22] <Agent_bob> anything going on in here today ?
[07:23] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i register my nickname
[07:23] <Agent_bob> /msg nickserv help
[07:23] <Jay-Oh-En> thanks
[07:24] <Agent_bob> np
[07:24] <Agent_bob> i have found a pc that linux can't boot.
[07:24] <serrucho> why?
[07:24] <Agent_bob> well actually a combonation of hardware that linux can't handle togather.
[07:25] <serrucho> or how?
[07:25] <ciacon> hi all - I have a Q - I just installed mp3blaster - I tried to play somthing and is only says "Failed to open sound device.".... can anyone give me some advice?
[07:26] <Agent_bob> scsi card 'aic7xxx' plus ati radion something...   haven't found a linux yet that can boot on it.
[07:26] <serrucho> agent bob I have a question
[07:26] <Agent_bob> shoot.
[07:26] <serrucho> can you help me?
[07:26] <serrucho> ok
[07:26] <Agent_bob> ask and we'll see
[07:26] <serrucho> I have a laptop
[07:26] <serrucho> but I want to open
[07:27] <serrucho> since i dont have the password
[07:27] <serrucho> do you have an idea how to do it
[07:27] <serrucho> is a windows xp pro
[07:28] <Jay-Oh-En> serrucho: wow asking a windows question here
[07:28] <Agent_bob> ciacon in the applications menu configure it to use arts or alsa as the output device
[07:28] <ciacon> Agent_bob: I can't really find a menu... lemme see
[07:28] <Agent_bob> serrucho sure drop a linux install cd in the tray and power on....  :)
[07:28] <serrucho> I love linux
[07:28] <serrucho> but this is my friend laptop
[07:29] <serrucho> I tried already
[07:29] <serrucho> but dont let me to boot
[07:29] <Jay-Oh-En> serrucho: oh ok
[07:30] <Agent_bob> well if you mean "crack" windows,  i don't do windows.   so maybe ask someone else about it... maybe in  ##windows even.
[07:30] <Jay-Oh-En> serrucho: its in the bios
[07:30] <serrucho> I did that too
[07:30] <Jay-Oh-En> hes talking about it not booting the cd
[07:30] <serrucho> yes
[07:30] <serrucho> that
[07:30] <Jay-Oh-En> serrucho: r you made it boot from cd
[07:30] <Agent_bob> yeah that's in the bios settings
[07:30] <ciacon> Agent_bob: I have the feeling, that my sound is not quite what it should be... I have one of theese superb -.- Intel HD audio-thingies
[07:31] <Agent_bob> power on and hold down the f1  or  right shift  or something  depending on the hardware
[07:32] <serrucho> I tried the safe mode but is lock too
[07:32] <Jay-Oh-En> serrucho: your doing it all wrong
[07:32] <Agent_bob> ciacon ok.  but if sound works in other apps you should be able to pipe it through the same device that they use,   it's a simple matter of configuring the app.
[07:32] <ciacon> Agent_bob: is there an alternative?? I love to listen to music while I play tremulous - only problem - mp3blaster is the only reasonable mp3 player I know for the command-line...
[07:33] <declan> Ola, anyone know how to turn off wine in kubuntu gutsy?
[07:33] <Jay-Oh-En> declan: do you wanna uninstall it
[07:33] <Agent_bob> serrucho you'll have to get into the BIOS  not the boot manager.
[07:33] <serrucho> and then ?
[07:33] <Jay-Oh-En> serrucho: set it to boot from cd
[07:34] <declan> Jay-Oh-En: No. I just want to switch if off when I'm not using it. To avoid any possible win viruses.
[07:34] <serrucho> I did that already
[07:34] <Agent_bob> ciacon cli   sure   sox    but vlc can handle that too.  ummm an mplayer i think
[07:35] <Jay-Oh-En> declan: i dont think you have to worry about any of that
[07:35] <Agent_bob> declan can you define "turn off wine" please ?
[07:35] <serrucho> I went to sequence of the boot and put the cd-rom on number 1
[07:35] <serrucho> to boot from the cd-rom
[07:36] <serrucho> but still same thing
[07:36] <ciacon> Agent_bob: i'd hoped there is an similarly simple player out there... checkin through the man-pages for mp3blaste
[07:36] <declan> Jay-Oh-En: Well, I was just reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[07:36] <declan> Jay-Oh-En: Got me thinking.
[07:36] <Jay-Oh-En> could anybody help me out why does this do this http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/pronege/snapshot6.png
[07:37] <declan> Agent_bob: Well, I was thinking maybe it ran as a service so that I could just stop the service and not have wine running.
[07:38] <Agent_bob> wine is wine is not an emulator,  wine is an application layer that is used to support windows based application in linux.    wine is normally called something like this    "wine /media/win_c:/my\ program.exe "    when "my program.exe" exits so does wine.
[07:39] <serrucho> agent bob you are a pro on this
[07:39] <serrucho> you know a lot
[07:39] <declan> Agent_bob: Ok, thanks. Maybe I'll just uninstall it then.
[07:39] <_dac_> when you email - forward,what is "inline text" and "an attachment" ? Yea, I'm not too smart...
[07:39] <Agent_bob> think of it in the same way as the shell us used for a script.    sh my_script.sh      sh runs to provide a shell for "my_script.sh" to run in.   when  my_script.sh  exits so does sh
[07:41] <Agent_bob> perl script might be an even better example    perl my_script.perl        idk.
[07:42] <Agent_bob> any way you see the point i'm sure.    wine is not "always running"  it's just there if you need it.
[07:42] <Agent_bob> !virus
[07:42] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:42] <Agent_bob> see the link              ^
[07:43] <Agent_bob> serrucho thanks.    i think.  ;/
[07:45] <declan> There we go. Wine no more. I'm feeling safer already.
[07:45] <Agent_bob> ok   but do read the link   ^
[07:45] <Agent_bob> http://librenix.com/?inode=21 <<<
[07:47]  * Agent_bob feels that sudo is more of a virus/mal_ware portal than wine...    (personal openion)
[07:48] <ciacon> Agent_bob: I managed to find out that I have the choice between "oss, esd, nas and sdl
[07:48] <Jay-Oh-En> Agent_bob: can you help me with this http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s272/pronege/snapshot6.png look to the right with the blue and white selections it gets on my nerves do you think theres a way to turn that off for every program?
[07:48] <ciacon> Agent_bob: I suppose that I can best start off with oss, right?
[07:48] <declan> Agent_bob: Just read the link. Cheers. Some interesting points raised. I just uninstalled sudo out of paranoia too :)
[07:49] <Jay-Oh-En> declan: why?
[07:49] <Agent_bob> ciacon well  if you must...   but alsa is what you want...
[07:50] <ciacon> Agent_bob: thoose 4 are the ones mentioned in the man-pages... I would not know what else I could try
[07:50] <Agent_bob> lol.    declan i hope you set a good root password first.
[07:50] <declan> Agent_bob: uh oh...
[07:50] <declan> :)
[07:51] <Agent_bob> ciacon might look at     apt-cache search <packagename>    to see if it has modules for other output devices
[07:51] <serrucho> agent bob are you a teacher?
[07:51] <ciacon> Agent_bob: mp3blaster is the only with that or equiv. name in repository
[07:52] <Agent_bob> serrucho i've been called that.   but actually i'm a highschool drop out.
[07:52] <declan> Jay-Oh-En: Only joking. I wouldn't even know if you can uninstall sudo. I did get rid of wine though. Just because I don't really use it anyway.
[07:52] <Agent_bob> declan you can.
[07:52] <serrucho> then how old are you?
[07:52] <Agent_bob> serrucho fourty something ?
[07:53] <Agent_bob> why ?
[07:53] <serrucho> wao
[07:53] <declan> Agent_bob: Well, you learn something new every day.
[07:53] <serrucho> just curios
[07:53] <serrucho> you are right
[07:53] <Agent_bob> declan maybe so.  i have learned one thing,   you forget twice as much as you learn.
[07:53] <serrucho> I would like to know a lot about computers
[07:54] <Agent_bob> settle for knowing a little about everything.   rather than knowing every thing about a little.
[07:54] <ciacon> Agent_bob: I did it... solution: configfile in home-dir (~/.mp3blasterrc) with 2 lines: "AudioDriver = oss" "SoundDevice = /dev/dsp"... that did the trick
[07:54] <serrucho> I always use windows but I tried linux ubuntu and I thing I like it more than windows now
[07:54] <Agent_bob> ciacon good on ya mate.
[07:55] <Agent_bob> serrucho i only knew M$ until about the turn of the century.   i haven't used it sense.
[07:55] <ciacon> Agent_bob: thanks ;-)
[07:55] <Jakobsen> Is there a Evolution-like application for KDE, that supports MS Exchange sync?
[07:56] <declan> Kmail rocks! Not sure about the syncing.
[07:56] <Jay-Oh-En> how do i veiw my xorg
[07:56] <Jay-Oh-En> so i can pastebin it
[07:56] <Jakobsen> declan, I didn't ask if the mail app rocks, I asked for Exchange sync ;)
[07:56] <Agent_bob> Jakobsen i don't think so.   but you can use evo if you want...   it works in kde as well as in gnome
[07:57] <declan> Jakobsen: Sorry couldn't help myself :)
[07:57] <Jakobsen> Agent_bob, I just want to use Qt apps in KDE and GTK in Gnome.. imho the mix will become a mess..
[07:57] <Agent_bob> jucato would know if he was here..
[07:57] <Agent_bob> Jakobsen a mess ?    </shrugs>
[07:58] <Agent_bob> you want no mess remove xorg    the console is not messy
[07:58] <Agent_bob> clean and sain   imo
[07:58] <serrucho> agent bob what do you thing about compiz?
[07:59] <Agent_bob> eyecandy is not appealing to a cli user.
[07:59] <Jakobsen> Agent_bob, that's exactly what I mean.. I'm a console guy.. Now that I need a GUI on my linuxbox, I don't want to mix Gnome and KDE.. I tried it before, and the Gnome apps looked weird in KDE..
[07:59] <Agent_bob> i think it wastes horse power and sells new hardware.
[08:00] <serrucho> ok
[08:00] <Agent_bob> Jakobsen k.  you know what you want/like and i'll leave it at that.
[08:01] <serrucho> I want to used but couldn`t
[08:01] <Jakobsen> Agent_bob, I like Gnome, but I want KDE :D I guess it'll change the other way around, when I switch to KDE............
[08:02] <declan> Jakobsen: Not sure if this helps but I came across this recently when I was looking at something similar - never tried it out though http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-user&m=98600724802550&w=2
[08:02] <Agent_bob> serrucho i'm presently talking to you on a 1ghz p3 box  but normally run a p1 100mhz box   and wonder why people complain about their computer being slow when they have 2g processer and 2g ram...    ya know.
[08:03] <Agent_bob> Jakobsen here's the man to ask about that.    Jucato !
[08:04] <Jucato> please, not about networking...
[08:04] <Agent_bob> no
[08:04] <Agent_bob> kde alternative to evolution
[08:04] <Agent_bob> or should i say qt alternative
[08:04] <Jucato> kontact (kmail, korganizer, kaddressbook, knotes, etc)
[08:05] <Jakobsen> I just want to know, if it would lead to any problems if I run GTK apps in KDE..
[08:05] <Jucato> there shouldn't be any problems
[08:05] <Agent_bob> that wasn't the question.  :|
[08:06] <Jakobsen> Agent_bob, be quiet - and let the question evolve :P
 Is there a Evolution-like application for KDE, that supports MS Exchange sync?  <<<< that was the question.
[08:07] <Jucato> er... dunno about Exchange support
[08:07] <Agent_bob> i said NO.   if i was wrong Jucato can streighten me out...
[08:08] <Jucato> unlike GNOME, KDE's PIM apps aren't just part of one single big app. they're separate apps, just hundled together under a convenience wrapper (Kontact)
[08:08] <Agent_bob> see it wasn't netowrking   :)
[08:08] <Jucato> semi-related.. Exchange..
[08:08] <Jucato> anyway gotta go for a while...
[08:08] <Agent_bob> :
[08:09] <Jakobsen> Thank you, Jucato and Agent_bob .. I will setup a machine in VMware, and try it out..
[08:09]  * Agent_bob <grumbles> prolly running that from windows...
[08:10] <Jakobsen> Agent_bob, no - ubuntu ;)
[08:10] <Agent_bob> .)
[08:10] <Agent_bob> where's my other eye ???
[08:10] <Jakobsen> here - have three ...
[08:11] <Agent_bob> lol
[08:11] <seezer> Jakobsen: kontact/kmail works/worked fine with exchange (for me..). calendar, invitations.. used active directory via ldap and mail via imap (worked fine two years ago)
[08:11] <kraut> moin
[08:11] <Agent_bob> ah seezer comes to the rescue.
[08:12] <seezer> i used exchange 2003 and 2000
[08:12] <Agent_bob> kraut
[08:12] <seezer> but better just turn off that messy boxes of evil ;)
[08:12] <kraut> hi Agent_bob
[08:12] <Agent_bob> how is U
[08:14] <seezer> Agent_bob: i have to.. he suffers from the same problems i had.. ;)
[08:14] <Agent_bob> :)
[08:16] <Agent_bob> just noticed "TameLion"'s join/part   and remembered a joke.        Q. "how do you catch a unique rabbit?"
[08:16] <Agent_bob> A. "you 'neek up on it."
[08:16] <Agent_bob> Q. "how do you catch a tame rabbit?"
[08:16] <Agent_bob> A. "tame way."
[08:17] <seezer> whaha :)
[08:18] <Agent_bob> (:
[08:19] <ardchoille> !ot
[08:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:19] <Agent_bob> yeah i guess so.   there is just so much going on in here that there is no room for such, eeh ardchoille ...
[08:20] <ardchoille> Agent_bob: Well, the channel rules don't really have a time limit ;)
[08:22] <seezer> so where is the loan for the supporters?
[08:22] <seezer> my contract says:
[08:22] <Jakobsen> "Go away bird teacher, I have had enough.."
[08:22] <seezer> :)
[08:23] <Jakobsen> That's a fine contract, mate :)
[08:23] <seezer> ok let's stay on topic!
[08:24] <seezer> we need problems..
[08:26] <Jakobsen> I can generate a lot of random problems.. 2 sec, I'm going to unload a module on one of our servers
[08:31] <ScorpKing> how can i list all the packages installed on my box. cache/... has been cleaned.
[08:35] <ScorpKing> nvm, got it. dpkg --get-selections for those who don't know. ;)
[08:36] <ScorpKing> cheers
[08:52] <Jakobsen> going to install kubuntu on my laptop.. cheers!
[09:14] <himar> hi all
[09:15] <himar> where I can find the app to activate the restricted drivers ?
[09:16] <emilsedgh> himar: systemSettings
[09:17] <himar> emilsedgh: thanks
[09:43] <himar> hi all .. I'm back :)))
[09:43] <himar> just some problems with the ati driver
[09:43] <himar> ok .. I have direct rendering
[09:43] <himar> how to active fusion-compiz
[09:43] <himar> ?
[09:53] <Zombocom> hwo do I go back to the kdm theme manager?
[09:53] <Zombocom> I changed the login settings by accident
[09:53] <Zombocom> and I want to go back to the kdm theme manager
[10:00] <Zombocom> hello?
[10:01] <Lynoure> Zombocom: what did you change to?
[10:01] <Zombocom> I changed it to a custom image
[10:01] <Zombocom> then like
[10:01] <Zombocom> I tried to change it back
[10:01] <Lynoure> Zombocom: usually removing that, and reconfiguring kdm would do the trick
[10:01] <Zombocom> how do I reconfigure kdm?
[10:01] <Lynoure> and there is some kdm theme manager package too
[10:02] <Lynoure> Zombocom: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm   might do that
[10:03] <Zombocom> kk
[10:03] <Zombocom> thakns
[10:05] <m00foo> is this actually a (known?) bug in kde 3.5.8 or only a gutsy problem? i can't change the settings for a (kicker) panel but the "main panel". neither right click "configure panel" let me choose another one nor "systemsettings". The only way to change it is to run kcontrol.  [first one could be a kde bug, second one is definitely a gutsy bug ;-)]
[10:06] <Lynoure> moofoo: tried searching on Launchpad?
[10:06] <Jucato> moofoo: bug in KDE since 3.5.6 I think.
[10:06] <Jucato> (I'm sure it's a KDE bug, just not sure how far it goes back)
[10:07] <moofoo> Jucato: hm oh since 3.5.6 alrady? :O .. well the missing option in systemsettings is a gutsy thing i suppose ;)
[10:07] <Jucato> nope
[10:07] <moofoo> why not? i can change it with kcontrol..
[10:08] <Jucato> panel options in system settings have been gone since edgy or dapper
[10:08] <Jucato> it's not a bug either. an intended behavior of system settings
[10:09] <Jucato> anyway, the easier way to solve that (other than launching kcontrol) is to run this command: dcop kicker kicker restart
[10:09] <Jucato> as the name suggests, it restarts kicker, refreshing it's brain and telling it that it has a new arm or leg
[10:12] <moofoo> Jucato: hm yeah thanks that seems to work...
[10:40] <magical_trevsky> hi, does anyone know how to stop kdewallet from asking for a password and just allow everything?
[10:41] <magical_trevsky> nvm
[10:45] <se7en__> how can i find out the folder size (including subfolders) on the terminal
[10:45] <SSJ_GZ> se7en__: du -hs
[10:47] <se7en__> thanks i was missing the s option SSJ_GZ
[10:47] <SSJ_GZ> se7en__: np :)
[11:04] <Zombocom> hey
[11:04] <Zombocom> that kdm command didn't work
[11:04] <Lynoure> what did you get as output from it?
[11:06] <corinth> Early morning, all.
[11:07] <ere4si> late evening all :)
[11:07] <corinth> Heh.
[11:08] <ere4si> greetings from a moonlit aus
[11:09] <corinth> So, my issues for this session:
[11:09] <corinth> Heh.
[11:10] <corinth> I have a desktop launcher that I can't get to open in dolphin by default. Suggestions? Kubuntu Gutsy
[11:11] <Tm_T> corinth: desktop launcher containing what?
[11:12] <ere4si> launcher probs are mostly syntax - done the obvious and run the command in konsole and selected run in konsole?
[11:12] <corinth> Tm_T: Eh, sorry. It's a link to my external hard drive
[11:12] <Tm_T> corinth: be more precise
[11:13] <ere4si> mounted?
[11:13] <corinth> Tm_T: Hmm. Not sure I can be, really. It's a shortcut to my external hard drive. Sorry, Im getting the hang of Linux, but I'd still call myself a noob.
[11:14] <Tm_T> corinth: if you try to edit it, what strings you have there?
[11:15] <corinth> Tm_T: Sorry, you'll have to be a bit more specific ;-)
[11:15] <Tm_T> hahaha
[11:15] <ere4si> the command you gave the launcher?
[11:16] <corinth> I dragged it from the mounted media folder in dolphin, and chose the "create a shortcut" option
[11:16] <Tm_T> ahah
[11:18] <corinth> Alright, I'll spit out information that I find in it.
[11:18] <corinth> The URL tab says system:/media/sdb1
[11:18] <corinth> general says desktop config file, location /home/mitch/Desktop
[11:19] <corinth> That's all the info I see, really.
[11:19] <Tm_T> corinth: change url, remove system: bit
[11:20] <corinth> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///media/sdb1 does not exist.
[11:21] <corinth> Tm_T: The url is now /media/sdb1 , btw
[11:22] <corinth> Figured it out, nm
[11:22] <corinth> It isn't mounted there, fixed it, works good now.
[11:22] <Tm_T> good
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[11:23]  * ActionParsnip waves
[11:23] <corinth> Alright, noobish question disclaimer:
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> ask away corinth
[11:23] <corinth> How do you do that, the actions.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> corinth: type / m e (no spaces) then a firstperson action
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> corinth: like /me waves
[11:24]  * corinth thinks he's got it now.
[11:24]  * ActionParsnip believes so too
[11:24] <corinth> Psh, thanks!
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> corinth: np
[11:24] <corinth> Alright, my next issue of the night.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> corinth: you can use Tab to complete names inroom as well
[11:25] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Ah, nice. Thanks.
[11:25] <ardchoille> I have a question. I usually clear the cookies, cache and history from my web browser frequently due to fear that some ,alicious website could still this information somehow. How likely is that to happen?
[11:25] <corinth> Tried this last night, no one could help.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> corinth: the recipients client will flash too
[11:25]  * corinth crosses fingers.
[11:25] <corinth> Heh.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> corinth: tried what?
[11:26] <corinth> Alright, I installed Ubuntu Gutsy, but I'm addicted to KDE, so I installed Kubuntu Gutsy via apt-get install kubuntu_desktop
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> corinth: ok
[11:26] <corinth> In ubuntu, my volume + and - media keys work fine, but not in kubuntu
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> corinth: are those on your keyboard
[11:27] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Yep
[11:28] <corinth> ActionParsnip: volume up or down only toggles between 0 and 11 % in the OSD, without actually changing my volume.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> corinth: ok what has happened is you configured the key capture in gnome
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> corinth: you have to config it in kde now
[11:29] <corinth> ActionParsnip: The keys worked in gnome without haing to configuer it manually. If I try to set them as volume + and - in Kmix, the problem is still the same.
[11:29] <corinth> ActionParsnip: However, if I set other keysets to volume + and -, it works fine, but without the OSD.
[11:29] <corinth> :-/
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> corinth: if you press them,what happens?
[11:30] <corinth> ActionParsnip: The actual volume + and - keys, or the alternates I binded?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> corinth: the actual keys
[11:31] <corinth> ActionParsnip: The OSD will go to either 0% or 11%, but the volume won't actually change.
[11:31] <corinth> And it won't display anything besides 0 or 11
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> corinth: try running xev in a shell to get keymappings
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> corinth: this may help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/35824
[11:33] <corinth> ActionParsnip: You're going to have to walk me through that a bit. I have Konsole open, and I can enter the command, what after that?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> corinth: and this looks helpful http://www.mepis.org/node/6195
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> corinth: as you press keys the numbers representing the keys will show
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> corinth: this is kinda what you are experiencing and looks super useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304784
[11:36] <corinth> Alright, I pushed the keys while in that tool. What do you want to see?
[11:36] <corinth> ActionParsnip: .
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> it'll say keypress detected or similar
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> corinth: check the lowest link i sent you. its what you need
[11:37] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Checking it out right now. Be back soon.
[11:37]  * corinth hopes.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> corinth: have a wade. i got a report to write in 20 mins
[11:38]  * ActionParsnip is afk
[11:55] <corinth> If I'm creating a script, is there a file extension for it, or is there none?
[12:03] <Lynoure> corinth: you can use any, it does not matter as long as the file is correct otherwise
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> corinth: any good man?
[12:10] <fulat2k> !kde4broken
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde4broken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> fulat2k: you ok dude?
[12:12] <pag> !brokenkde4 | fulat2k
[12:12] <ubotu> fulat2k: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> pag: isnt that out as an offical update on 12th dec?
[12:15] <pag> ActionParsnip, huh? Estimated release date for KDE4 is 11. dec, if that's what you mean..
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> pag: yeah. Just seems weird people installing KDE4 now rather than wait
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Why does KUbuntuinstall KWrite AND Kate? Surely just 1 is ok
[12:21] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: because in KDE3, both are in kdebase by default
[12:21] <Jucato> (unfortunately, kate was moved to kdesdk in kde4...)
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: very weird defaut but it's not hard to apt out
[12:23]  * Jucato shrugs
[12:28]  * corinth is tired and frustrated with trying to bind his media keys -_-
[12:30] <corinth> External hard drive doesn't mount each time I boot until I navigate to the folder and open it. How can I fix this?
[12:33] <Lynoure> How do you navigate to the folder if it has not been mounted?
[12:35] <corinth> Lynoure: I'm probably using bad terminology, noob here.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> corinth: when you attach it it is mounted for you
[12:36] <corinth> If I double click my desktop launcher for the drive after starting my system, it will tell me it's not mounted, until I navigat to /media/mydrive
[12:37] <jessy_james> ciao
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> corinth: if its in /media/mydrive then it is mounted. If it was unmounted it would only be /dev/sdx
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> corinth: and unusable
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> corinth: now it is in /media it is accessible
[12:38] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Actually, I guess it is only in /dev/sdb1 before I try to open it and it mounts it. How can I get it to mount it automatically on start?
[12:39] <corinth> ActionParsnip: I have the box labeled mount automatically ticked, to no avail.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> corinth: /sbin/fdisk -i
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> corinth: is the drive connected a lot?
[12:40] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Sorry, what do I do with that?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> corinth: run it in console
[12:40] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Yes, it has all of my media on it. K.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> corinth: ok so is it on sdb1?
[12:41] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Yep.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> corinth: ok cool
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> corinth: what format is the drive in (ntfs / fat16 / fat32)?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> corinth: ext2 / ext3 yada
[12:43] <corinth> ActionParsnip: ntfs, I believe
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> corinth: add this to your /etc/fstab (backup the old one first)
[12:44] <corinth> ActionParsnip: I'm only guessing, it says Filesystem: ntfs-3g
[12:44] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Aaaah scary. Alright.
[12:44] <bentob0x> I'm having a strange problem.  I have done a dpkg-reconfigure etc, reinstalled my NVidia drivers (the ones from the website), but when I restart kdm, it seems to take the right config (xorg.conf) for the splash screen but once logging in, it seems that X switches to another xorg.conf config.  Also in my xorg.conf, the driver used is "nvidia" but when I look in the "Monitor & Display" info in KDE, its writting "nv" as driver
[12:47] <corinth> ActionParsnip: Alright, backed up. Opened in Kate.
[12:48] <bavid> il coso in italiano?
[12:49] <bavid> in italiano??
[12:49] <Jucato> it | bavid
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> corinth: /dev/sdb1 /media/mydrive ntfs ro
[12:49] <Jucato> hm... bot is slow...
[12:49] <Jucato> bavid: #ubuntu-it or #kubuntu-it
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> corinth: that should be ok
[12:49] <bavid> graciaz
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> corinth: you'll need to save and then i'd reboot just to test
[12:58] <ThuLex> why is it when i run ubutnu off of my disc, when i plug my usb key in and try to unmount it, this comes up: error writing: /etc/mtab.tmp: no space left on device... what do I do to fix this? I have tried it all day yesterday (unmounting) and it works fine, but today it doesnt...
[13:03] <ciacon> hi guys - I have some problem with mp3blaster - I can't get it to play somthing.... "Failed to open sound device."... I was hoping to get it working with the "alsa-oss"-package... anyone got any hints?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: can you play audio from other apps?
[13:09] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: yes and no - things recomended on the Alsa-site don't work (eg "speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav") don't.... but simpller progs like "aplay" and "mpg123-alsa" work+
[13:10] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: I seem to have loads of OSS still on Kubuntu 7.10....
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: have yu configured the app you are having issues with?
[13:11] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: I am trying to configure mp3blaster (I need a simple mp3 player, that one can really use)
[13:11] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: i used mp3blaster extreamly sucessfully on my old box, but now that I have a new box and a new rev of Kubuntu, things are not quite as smooth...
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: amarok is prettysweet :)
[13:14] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: mp3blaster mentions in it's manpages, that ~/.mp3blasterrc is the file containing the config... I can choose between "sdl", "oss", "nas" and "esd"... I thought "alsa-oss" is the closest shot I have, though setting it to OSS doesn't move me one inch further
[13:14] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: Amarok is a superb player, but sadly not to compatible with the command line
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: mplayer at command line?
[13:16] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: I suppose "apt-get install mplayer" might suffice...
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: yeah give it a shot
[13:16] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: em... can I nav through the songs I play on the commandlíne??
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: i'd emailthe mp3blaster guys to see what they can suggest
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: not sure as i always use a gui :(
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ciacon: sorry
[13:17] <ciacon> ActionParsnip: np
[13:27] <sebastian^> hey folks :)
[13:29] <donsdw> Hi, I
[13:30] <donsdw> Hi, I'm trying to set up auto login on Kubuntu.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46218/  Any help would be appreciated.
[13:34] <apparle_> what should I use for GUI programming. I am a newbee to linux and programming
[13:34] <apparle> dh
[13:36] <apparle> how to change password for my nickname on the NickServ
[13:37] <ThuLex>  why is it when i try to unmount my usb key, it says /dev/sdd2 is mouted; will not make a filesyste here!
 its not even mounted...
[13:39] <ThuLex> ?
[13:40] <chx> II have thin horizontal lines across my screen....  quite disturbing... it's clearly software. I have Intel 945 graphics and 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9 from xserver-xorg-video-intel
[13:40] <home_> hi all i got a major prolem when installing/running the live D
[13:40] <home_> CD of kubuntu
[13:41] <Tm_T> chx: what kind of screen
[13:41] <home_> i cannot use it i only get a blue backgound with my mouse on it and then it changes to some command lines
[13:41] <Tm_T> chx: and what kind of lines?
[13:42] <home_> and then i have to restart:(
[13:42] <chx> Tm_T: LCD but it goes by reboot and when Opera scrolls it multiplies the the lines. very strange :( it's like trashing the videomemory?
[13:42] <chx> Tm_T: and a reboot usually cures it. It's usually much worse after hibernatin and restore.
[13:43] <Tm_T> meh
[13:43] <Tm_T> sounds funny
[13:43] <chx> very.
[13:43] <apparle> how to change the the password for nickserv
[13:48] <Wolfy667> i got a problem when i try to run the live cd from kubuntu 7.10 it loads until i get a blue background and a mouse pointer with nothing else after 20 sec it switvhes to a command line background and its frozen can only shut it down with the on/off boutton anyone an idea what i could be ?
[13:50] <apparle> Wolfy667: I had this problem with ubuntu and I changed the CD. Change the cd or redownload the iso image and the try. I ma not 100% sure about it
[13:51] <Wolfy667> wll i tried it with 3 different cd but same server will try it with another server or with ubuntu then :) ty
[13:57] <donsdw> Hi, I'm trying to set up auto login on Kubuntu.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46218/  Any help would be appreciated.
[13:58] <ciacon> can anyone give me a hint on how I can use mplayer to play some mp3s out of a Folder+Subdirs???
[13:59] <apparle> donsdw: when you click on admin mode do you get a window asking for root password
[13:59] <corinth> donsdw: After you enter Administrative mode, it should let you click 'Convenience' again, and tick Enable Auto-Login
[14:00] <apparle> ciacon: could you explain in detail what you want in more detail
[14:01] <ciacon> I have an ubuntu-box which is my media-storage
[14:01] <donsdw> apparle: No, I don't.  But I click on Administative Mode and enter password.
[14:02] <ciacon> apparle: I thoought having a bigger-radio in the citchen might be cool... I found out, that most players I came up with either don't work OR can only play single files... I was rather hoping, that it starts and stays playing ;-)
[14:02] <donsdw> corinth: It doesn't for me.
[14:02] <ciacon> apparle: mplayer wsa till now the best solution (withough gui)
[14:02] <apparle> donsdw: you better close the system settings block and then again start it and see if it works
[14:03] <apparle> ciacon: what about amarok
[14:04] <ciacon> amarok uses X
[14:04] <ciacon> was hoping to avoid that
[14:04] <apparle> ciacon: you wanna avoid xine?? I think it is the best
[14:05] <ciacon> nope - X11
[14:05] <ciacon> or the X-server
[14:05] <apparle> ciacon: why you wanna avoid that
[14:05] <donsdw> apparle: I just did as you suggested (again), no workee.
[14:06] <ciacon> apparle: old box, low ram --> is a apache & samba server (and hopefully soon plays some music)
[14:07] <apparle> donsdw: you don't get any window prompting to enter root password when you click administrator mode
[14:08]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:08] <apparle> ciacon: try ffmpeg CLI player
[14:09] <donsdw> apparle: Yes, I get that window, enter password, and then am returned to the Login Manager.
[14:09] <Tm_T> !away | [WarMage]
[14:09] <ubotu> [WarMage]: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[14:09] <apparle> donsdw: try restart
[14:09] <donsdw> apparle: Sorry, I misread the first time you asked.
[14:10] <donsdw> apparle: Okay, I will
[14:11] <apparle> ciacon: I used ffmpeg package when i had ubuntu and was unable to get gstreamer plugin
[14:12] <ciacon> apparle: what I really would like, is to get mp3blaster up and running... I just have no idea how I can get it to work... I tried to configure it to OSS, but that doesn't really do anything but fail =(
[14:13] <apparle> ciacon: what is mp3blaster > A software to play mp3??
[14:13] <ciacon> apparle: a super cool command line mp3-player
[14:14] <donsdw> apparle: I shut down and relogged in, but it still does not work.
[14:15] <apparle> donsdw: I am sorry
[14:15] <apparle> ciacon: you have installed OSS or ALSA drivers??????????
[14:16] <donsdw> Has anyone here set the autologin with Kubuntu Gutsy?
[14:16] <ciacon> apparle: I have a brand-new ubuntu 7.10 (which as far as I know runs alsa)
[14:16] <ciacon> donsdw: I tried - didn't like that security-hole;-)
[14:17] <emilsedgh> donsdw: sure, go to system settings->advanced
[14:17] <ciacon> apparle: that's why I thought the package "alsa-oss" would do the trick
[14:17] <emilsedgh> donsdw: login manager
[14:17] <funcrush> I just finished insatll apache2 but I can't find default page
[14:17] <funcrush> how can I get the page?
[14:17] <ciacon> funcrush: /etc/www/
[14:18] <funcrush> ciacon :hm.. thank you
[14:18] <funcrush> ciacon : But how can I configure apache2?
[14:18] <apparle> ciacon: I don't have any experience with either ALSA or mp3blaster but you give ffmpeg a try
[14:18] <golwen> Hi....can someone help me withe the Jack audio server?
[14:18] <donsdw> emilsedgh:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46218/
[14:19] <matttis2> hi
[14:19] <golwen> hi
[14:19] <ciacon> funcrush: the config is in "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[14:19] <funcrush> ciacon : thank you:)
[14:19] <matttis2> is dolphin part of the kde suit or is it a feature of kubuntu that it substitutes konqueror as file browser
[14:20] <ciacon> apparle: I tried a simple "ffmpeg blabla.wav" and it tried to transcode it... at least "mplayer blabla.wav" plays it
[14:20] <apparle> ciacon: you want to play mp3 or wav??
[14:21] <ciacon> matttis2: as far as I have understood, dolphin is suposed to suppliment konqueror in KDE4
[14:21] <ciacon> apparle: anything that sounds good ;-)
[14:22] <emilsedgh> donsdw: did you try it from kcontrol?
[14:23] <apparle> ciacon: what error do you get when you run mp3blaster
[14:23] <matttis2> ciacon: I already have it here in the taskbar (or how it is called) at the place where konqueror was. Does that mean I should arrange myself with dolphin because it will get better ?
[14:23] <emilsedgh> donsdw: but when you enter password everything should be enabled
[14:23] <donsdw> emilsedgh:  If kcontrol is the Big "K" icon, then yes.
[14:24] <emilsedgh> donsdw: i dont think that it helps, but no, run kcontrol from run commands dialog
[14:24] <ciacon> matttis2: I still use the normal konqueror - surposedly a lot of functionality is still to be added...
[14:24] <donsdw> emilsedgh:  I would think so, but it's all grayed out.
[14:24] <matttis2> Are there other alternatives to konqueror (which are better than dolphin) ?
[14:24] <matttis2> ciacon: yes, konqueror is a lot better
[14:24] <donsdw> emilsedgh:  Thanks, I'm trying kcontrol now.
[14:24] <emilsedgh> Dolphin helps konqueror...
[14:24] <golwen> maybe Firefox for internet
[14:25] <matttis2> emilsedgh: in which way ?
[14:25] <apparle> how to make a menu in the taskbar like storage menu. I want a menu of the contents of /media
[14:25] <emilsedgh> matttis2: provides dolphinpart for konqueror's file browsing view :)
[14:25] <funcrush> well, I can't configure default page of apache2, How can i configure that? help me plx
[14:25] <emilsedgh> matttis2: im talking about kde4 versions, not *3* stuff
[14:26] <matttis2> ahh, ok
[14:26] <ciacon> matttis2: I grew up using norton-commander - I like the bsc (but that one really is a matter of taste)
[14:26] <emilsedgh> funcrush: what do you exaclty want to do?
[14:26] <donsdw> emilsedgh:  Any idea where in kcontrol?
[14:26] <matttis2> ciacon: ok, the same applies to my youth, I'll try it
[14:27] <ciacon> funcrush: I think what you are looking for is the infamous "/etc/www/index.html"
[14:27] <Nightwarrior> Hello, why wont Kubuntu let me use; "dpkg --configure -a" It says it has to be done by the administartor but the user I am on is the onlyone created... how can I make myself administator?
[14:27] <Jucato> !sudo | Nightwarrior
[14:27] <ubotu> Nightwarrior: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[14:27] <donsdw> found it
[14:27] <ciacon> Nightwarrior: did you run that with a sudo ahead??
[14:27] <funcrush> emilsedgh : when I type localhost on my web broswer, want to my broser show my page in other directory
[14:27] <apparle> donsdw: what did you do??
[14:27] <Nightwarrior> lets try sudo infront..
[14:28] <Nightwarrior> thx :P
[14:28] <apparle> ciacon: mp3blaster error??
[14:28] <matttis2> emilsedgh: i already feared deinstalling dolphin is a mistake :)
[14:28] <ciacon> apparle: I just don't get it - now it seams to work...
[14:28] <ciacon> apparle: let's see, what I did
[14:29] <donsdw> emilsedgh: kcommander has same screen (and same problem).
[14:29] <donsdw> apparle: I tried kcommander, but no luck.
[14:30] <apparle> ciacon: now mp3blaster is working?? '<
[14:30] <ciacon> apparle: weird - kde seems to block the audio-device.. I am testing on my box for the mo and will move the solution to server
[14:31] <apparle> ciacon: what do you mean by saying kde blocks the audio device
[14:31] <ciacon> apparle: as far as it seams to me, there is either an app inside kde, that operates the device, or (after some timing out) anything else
[14:31] <ciacon> funcrush: have you found what you were looking for?
[14:32] <apparle> ciacon: kmix might be using the device. try stopping it
[14:33] <blackflag> !udma
[14:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:33] <apparle> anybody here knows a substitute for kmix
[14:33] <donsdw> Thanks for trying, guys.  Bye for now.
[14:33] <ciacon> apparle: I think what happens is that 60sec long the device is occupied by kde, after that the kde-sound sys suspends - leaving other progs to use it
[14:34] <apparle> donsdw: I will see if anything can be done
[14:34] <apparle> ciacon: goto Kmenu > System settings > soyund
[14:37] <matttis2> How can I give amarok (or other sound playing programs) higher priority so that I don't hear noise during the playback ?
[14:37] <ciacon> apparle: now I have mp3blaster playing somthing - I opend the kde sound settings - tapped on "test sound" - no reaction - no sound from kde
[14:38] <apparle> ciacon: you see a slider above the test sound??
[14:38] <ciacon> apparle: as soon, as I stoped the playback in mp3blaster, the kde-jingle appeared (the test, that I just started playing - 45 secs later -.-)
[14:38] <ciacon> apparle: none
[14:39] <apparle> ciacon: could you send me a print screen .jpg with system settings> sound open
[14:39] <ciacon> apparle: well, which slider are you looking for?? a vol slider?? no... I can adjust the Skip-Prevention and the Auto-Suspend
[14:40] <ciacon> apparle: sure - one sec
[14:41] <ciacon> apparle: http://ciacon.dyndns.org:8002/sound-prob1.png
[14:42] <fulat2k> !brokenkde4
[14:42] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[14:43] <matttis2> How can I get my old passwords from the firefox configuration file ? I didn't want to overwrite the current file, so I tried to remember each password, but it doesn't work :-) Or is it no problem to overwrite the password file with an older one ?
[14:44] <ciacon> matttis2: if the old and new ff are the same version, that shouldn't be a prob
[14:44] <matttis2> ok
[14:45] <apparle> ciacon: Adjust the auto-suspend to min possible
[14:45] <ciacon> apparle: I have another Q - what does Network-sound in this case mean??
[14:46] <apparle> ciacon: I could have seen the window on my pc but I am sitting on a public pc as i don't have net at home
[14:46] <genii> Bah. Any way to prevent "Firefox closed unexpectedly ...new session...recover session" etc after shutting down wm normally but with ff open?
[14:46] <ciacon> apparle: np
[14:47] <apparle> ciacon: the speakers are connected to the same box as you are running ?? what is np
[14:47] <ciacon> apparle: is it really true, that kde exclusively reserves the sound-card??
[14:47] <ciacon> apparle: np = no prob.
[14:48] <apparle> ciacon: yes it does.that's why I said you reduce the time to min <<<60sec
[14:48] <ciacon> apparle: yup
[14:48] <matttis2> ciacon: do you think i can just add the missing parts into the current password file ?
[14:49] <apparle> ciacon: did reducing the auto suspend to min reduce the problem
[14:49] <ciacon> matttis2: id take either the old or the new - it's a boolian-answer - I'd avoid mashing up thoose files
[14:50] <apparle> anybody got any substitute for Kmix
[14:51] <funcrush> a window of gedit is on 2 screen both, how can i make disappear one?
[14:51] <apparle> funcrush: what? please explain
[14:51] <funcrush> well, I'll capture it.. plz wait
[14:51] <ciacon> apparle: I have basicly heard what I need - kde can not cope with more than 1 sound running @ a time... =S
[14:52] <genii> apparle: apt-cache search mixer     produces quite a lot of candidates :)
[14:54] <apparle> ciacon: No . It takes control of the card only for system sounds like logon etc. I played three mp3 files on my pc(amarok,kaffiene,mplayer) simultaneously just for fun. And that also in case of an old box
[14:55] <apparle> genii: i want a mixer which can be controlled by the volume keys of a multimedia keyboard
[14:55] <ciacon> I have the feeling, that the sound in KDE is managed by arts - which mixes all the sounds played in KDE and then feeds it to alsa which then again links to the card...
[14:56] <genii> apparle: Then you don't neccesarily want a different mixer but rather to configure the keyboard
[14:56] <genii> Because for instance kmix on my laptop uses the builtin volume keys,mute etc perfectly
[14:56] <matttis2> apparle: alsamixer in console
[14:56] <apparle> ciacon: I don't know that much. I am using linux for only a month. I use OSS
[14:57] <apparle> genii: kmix has configured my KBD but It itself does not start
[14:57] <ciacon> apparle: I have been up and about with linux for nearly 5 years - just have no time to really learn the stuff ;-)
[14:57] <funcrush> ciacon : I captured... I can read your message but maybe you can read my messge.
[14:57] <funcrush> ciacon : http://cfs6.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzU3NzA1QGZzNi50aXN0b3J5LmNvbTovYXR0YWNoLzAvMDEwMDAwMDAwMDExLmpwZw==
[14:57] <apparle> matttis2: I use OSS drivers. ALSA does not work for me whatever I do
[14:58] <funcrush> ciacon : a window of gedit is on 2 screen both.
[14:59] <matttis2> apparle: well, just try it, maybe it also works
[14:59] <genii> apparle: I've had where it does not autostart. Start it manually then by alt-f2 type in kmix    then leave it open in tray when shutdown, should load next time
[14:59] <ciacon> funcrush: I get what you mean - right click on the gedit on the taskbar --> To Desktop --> Desktop 1 (you should have "All Desktops" selected)
[14:59] <genii> Or does it refuse to start, etc?
[14:59] <apparle> ciacon: where did you upload the .jpg file
[15:00] <ciacon> apparle: my file I sent you?? k-pub-fileserver
[15:00] <apparle> genii: when i run kmix in CLI I get some error related to libasound.so.2.0.0
[15:00] <funcrush> ciacon : thank you very much!!!!!!
[15:00] <apparle> ciacon: how to do that
[15:02] <apparle> genii:any suggestions
[15:02] <ciacon> apparle: I right click on the task-bar --> add applet to pannel --> Public File Server
[15:02] <ciacon> funcrush: no prob
[15:03] <ciacon> apparle: any success??
[15:03] <funcrush> ciacon : :)
[15:03] <apparle> ciacon: anything which can be done on any platform(Windows, MAC, linux)
[15:04] <ciacon> apparle: under win and mac I'm lost, but that's the "cheap and nasty" "all-singing-all-dancing" linux solution
[15:04] <blizzzek> bye
[15:04] <apparle> bye
[15:05] <apparle> ciacon: any fileserver website which does the same
[15:05] <apparle> genii: are ou there
[15:06] <ciacon> apparle: none, that I know of - I just add a folder (eg ~/pub_files/8001/) and go - under windows I'd say apache2 or PAMP should do
[15:07] <genii> apparle: Yes, just returned to my computer... it would seem there is then some underlying issue nothing to do with kmix but rather either some sound libs or your driver for the soundcard or so on. no immediate idea springs to mind as a fast fix
[15:08] <apparle> ciacon: well forget it. Do you know what to use for software GUI development ( new to linux and programming)
[15:08] <ciacon> apparle: have you had a look @ kdevelop??
[15:09] <ciacon> apparle: I am rather into web-dev
[15:09] <apparle> genii: I use OSS drivers. Also the problem gets resolved if i compile and install ALSA-lib, but returns again after reboot
[15:11] <apparle> ciacon: I want good GUI results with minimum code and ofcourse and offline software
[15:12] <genii> apparle: Perhaps to try install or reinstall of packages libasound2 libasound2-plugins (ALSA)
[15:12] <ciacon> apparle: I haven't done much dev under linux... just some small mucking about... I am told - the place to start (if you are looking for a gui) is with kdevelop (which aparently offers somthing like VBasic to design a ui)
[15:13] <apparle> genii: But i use OSS not ALSA
[15:13] <apparle> ciacon: how to get it
[15:14] <ciacon> apparle: apt-get kdevelop
[15:15] <apparle> ciacon: any offline method?? I will try to download kdevelop .deb
[15:15] <ciacon> omg - a mate just got a bluescreen on windumb - IRC-logs managed to lock him down to 64k free on hdd  -.-
[15:16] <apparle> ciacon	: explain
[15:16] <ciacon> apparle: I am lost, when it goes to offline - I used to 18000down/1481up - no offline here ;-)... sorry =S
[15:16] <genii> apparle: Yes, I understood your post that you use OSS. But the error you described is reporting some libasound-related thing, which is ALSA related.
[15:17] <ciacon> apparle: is genii working on my prob??
[15:17] <apparle> ciacon: On my problem
[15:17] <ciacon> apparle: *g*
[15:17] <genii> ciacon: What is your problem again? :)
[15:17] <ciacon> apparle: not, that I'm glad to have more ;-)
[15:17] <apparle> ciacon: your problem solved or not??
[15:20] <apparle> genii: that's why I am trying to get a substitute for Kmix
[15:20] <ciacon> I have 2 uses for a comand-line based mp3-player (an ancient server in my citchen with speakers) and I love to be able to operate a player during gaming... only mp3blaster offers that - but for some reason it only can deal with OSS, ESD and 2 others - no alsa... I am slightly lost on how to get it to work... I tried setting OSS-output, but that fails, when kde is running (my old 7.04 managed this task like a doddle...
[15:21] <apparle> ciacon: do you have any problem if you install OSS drivers
[15:21] <ciacon> apparle: which are?
[15:22] <michael_> ciacon: what doesn't mpg123 work?
[15:22] <michael_> *why
[15:23] <apparle> ciacon: a replacement for ALSA drivers
[15:23] <ciacon> michael_: mpg123-alsa works fine - but I can't realisticly use it, to play my music-collection
[15:24] <apparle> ciacon: what did you do with alsa-oss
[15:25] <apparle> genii: are you there
[15:26] <ciacon> apparle: as far as I can understand, alsa-oss is there, that I can use a fake OSS-enviroment, that ALSA sets up
[15:26] <genii> apparle: Perhaps install package alsa-oss
[15:26] <ciacon> genii: installed that, rebootet, same prob....
[15:26] <genii> ciacon: I was just looking into this LOL
[15:26] <ciacon> genii: =) sry...
[15:27]  * ciacon thinks he really should head back to gentoo ;-)
[15:28] <apparle> ciacon: I am not experienced with linux. but what ever may happen I am not leaving ubuntu> FREE>Ships CD>open source
[15:29] <genii> apt-cache search alsa|grep oss   produces some stuff to try.   alsa-oss alsaplayer-oss oss-compat       for instance
[15:29] <Radi01> What are the best drivers for Amarok.
[15:29] <apparle> ciacon: what all do you do on your pc
[15:29] <genii> Searching the oss main site shows kmix is supposed to be fully oss compliant so i doubt it is the actual issue
[15:30] <ciacon> apparle: game, prog, surf, chat, and of course _loads_ of media (especially mp3 ;-)  )
[15:30] <apparle> radi01: what do you mean by best drivers
[15:30] <Radi01> Which libs make Amarok sound the best with mp3.
[15:30] <apparle> genii: what should I do??
[15:31] <apparle> Radi01:  libxine1-fmpeg
[15:31] <genii> apparle: Is there some reason you need to use OSS as the main sound system?
[15:31] <apparle> ciacon: which gutsy
[15:31] <Radi01> k...t/y.
[15:31] <apparle> ??
[15:31] <ciacon> apparle: 7.10 now
[15:32] <apparle> ciacon: Is your sound card difficult to configure
[15:32] <Eduardiyo> hi, i need help to install someones packages
[15:33] <ciacon> apparle: I suppose - it's one of theese "superb" (overbreed if you ask me) Intel HD audio cards
[15:33] <davide> hi think i've a problem with my graphic card can anyone help me?
[15:33] <apparle> Eduardiyo: what help
[15:33] <Eduardiyo> im using Kubuntu 7.10
[15:33] <davide> it's an intel 945GM
[15:33] <Eduardiyo> when i try to get a new public key...
[15:33] <ciacon> Eduardiyo: which packages??
[15:33] <Eduardiyo> gpg: No se han encontrados datos OpenPGP válidos
[15:34] <Eduardiyo> ciacon all's haha
[15:34] <Eduardiyo> i haven't got idea what happend, and i can't install drivers from nvidia
[15:34] <Eduardiyo> well.., if anyones speaks spanish should to be more easy to speak about my problema
[15:34] <Eduardiyo> sorry :(
[15:34] <ciacon> Eduardiyo: did you use the Kubuntu-tool to install them??
[15:35] <apparle> ciacon: very good.Me too. I was unable to start my card with aLSA but worked fine with OSS
[15:35] <ciacon> !es
[15:35] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:35] <Eduardiyo> thanks ubotu !
[15:35] <Eduardiyo> thanks ciacon :P
[15:35] <ciacon> Eduardiyo: np
[15:35] <Eduardiyo> well, bye and care :)
[15:35] <BanisterKelly> !vmware
[15:35] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[15:36] <apparle> genii: Yes a bloody damn reson. no sound with ALSA
[15:36] <ciacon> apparle: lspci --> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[15:37] <apparle> ciacon: ALSA does not seem to find a mixer for my card
[15:37] <apparle> alsamixer: Unable to open the sound card.
[15:38] <apparle> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[15:39] <JackWinter> hiya.  I'm trying to install the printer drivers for my canon printer.  i found a newer version on the canon site, but one file is in source and not compiled: sudo alien cnijfilter-common-2.60-4.src.rpm
[15:40] <JackWinter> so then i did sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[15:40] <JackWinter> where do i find the source to compile it?
[15:41] <genii> apparle: So then try the install/reinstall of libasound2 libasound2-plugins ... then switch the system to alsa and try to start kmix again, see if it's giving you those "libasound" errors" etc etc
[15:41] <apparle> genii: anything else you can do
[15:42] <apparle> genii: dont you understand, the sound stops if I switch to alsa
[15:42] <apparle> genii: what is the use of kmix if there is no sound
[15:43]  * genii tries to see if he is giving obfuscated instructions of some sort or if the average person could undertand them
[15:44] <Radi01> Looks good to me.
[15:45] <apparle> genii: I have told you if I reinstall alsa-lib then kmix starts but again same error after reboot
[15:45] <genii> apparle: Ok i will explain the logic of my instructions more clearl: If alsa is not working and you say kmix gives you this libasound error... then obviously since libasound is an alsa library and there is some issue with it, reinstalling or installing it then trying to use alsa with kmix again to see now if the same libasound error repeats may be a useful debugging tool
[15:45] <blendtux> where can i edit how many getty are started at boot time
[15:45] <apparle> Radi01: what looks good
[15:45] <Radi01> Amarok.
[15:45] <blendtux> i thought it was in innittab in the etc direcotry but cant find it
[15:46] <genii> apparle: Compare then the result of lsmod when it works and then when it does not work. if some difference in that some module is there when it works, put that into /etc/modules
[15:46] <JackWinter> where do i go to ask about installing/compiling filters?
[15:47] <Eduardiyo> well, thanks a lot for all, i need to go, bye !
[15:48] <apparle> Radi01:amarok is the reason why i switched from windows to linux
[15:48] <Radi01> I like it..works pretty good.
[15:49] <Radi01> I like vlc too..but it does not load alphabetically..like amarok does.
[15:50] <apparle> genii: I will give it a try when I am home!!!
[15:51] <apparle> caicon: got any solution
[15:52] <Narada> hi how do i enable compiz for kde
[15:53] <Radi01> I switched to linux for allot of reasons/ Mainly due to Microsoft's inability to build an secure system and their dishonesty.
[15:53] <genii> !compiz | narada
[15:53] <ubotu> narada: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:54] <apparle> Radi01: I switched rather due to my dishonesty towards them( I use pirated XP as I am a student and can't afford)
[15:55] <Narada> genii: thanks
[15:55] <genii> Narada: np
[15:55] <apparle> genii: Can you tell me a mixer for my requirement other than kmix
[15:56] <genii> apparle: Your mixer is not the problem
[15:56] <Radi01> I don't blame you: They stink anyway their system is so full of holes and you have to constantly purchase outside programs for security leaving you with more security icons than system icons.
[15:56] <genii> apparle: So the answer in this case to your question would be no
[15:57] <apparle> genii: Kmix calls the alsamixer because i get the same error if I type alsamixer in CLI
[15:58] <genii> apparle: Since the mixer works at some point after this alsa-libs thing you are doing it's not the mixer thats the problem
[15:58] <BluesKaj> greetings from the great white north !
[15:58]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee
[15:58] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[15:59]  * genii hands BluesKaj a warm toque as well with Leafs logo on it
[15:59] <apparle> Radi01: I know and I am a champion at getting other security software illegally
[15:59]  * BluesKaj hides the logo :)
[15:59] <Radi01> Lol..i used Ccleaner and Zone alarm pro.
[15:59] <corinth> How can I watch TV through my tv tuner care in Kubuntu Gutsy?
[16:00] <genii> BluesKaj: Bah!
[16:00] <apparle> genii: i know. I just want the system to decrease the volume when I press the specific button
[16:00] <BluesKaj> corinth, on your monitor or tvout to a tvset?
[16:00] <apparle> Do I need to install an antivirus on kubuntu
[16:01] <BluesKaj> !antivirus | apparle
[16:01] <ubotu> apparle: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[16:01] <Radi01> only if you have windows on it..clam is the one for it
[16:01] <genii> apparle: What is the make of your keyboard?
[16:01] <apparle> genii: M$
[16:02] <Radi01> I wouldn't give gates the satisfaction of sharing my linux with windoze.
[16:02] <apparle> I will return after lunch bye
[16:02] <Radi01> k
[16:03] <genii> apparle: Please look under the keyboard at the sticker there and read off what it says after Model:
[16:03] <corinth> BluesKaj: Monitor
[16:04] <BluesKaj> corinth, for tv capture cards TvTime is a great app...I use it with an ATI TV Wonder Pro capture card
[16:09] <BluesKaj> corinth, my setup is a bit unique , my tv feed is a satellite receiver so i use the video input on the card and audio line in on the pc.
[16:09] <kub^> hi, is it possible to get the cube working in kde (gutsy, compiz etc installed and working with wobbly windows etc) i get a 2D desktop switcher when i ctrl + alt + Lclick?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> ok BBL... time to clear the driveway
[16:10] <ciacon> !xgl
[16:10] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:10] <corinth> BluesKaj: I have the same setup, actually :-)
[16:10] <corinth> BluesKaj: I can't figure out how to get it to start playing the video feed, though.
[16:11] <kub^> thats the exact setup i followed, i'll ask in compiz thanks :)
[16:12] <genii> kub^: in ccsm add more screens besides 2
[16:13] <corinth> Anyone know how to set up TvTime?
[16:13] <apparle> genii:the keyboard s configured . when i click on volume key. box tries to start kmix
[16:13] <BluesKaj> !tvtime | corinth
[16:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:14] <corinth> BluesKaj: How do you have your's set up, we have the same.
[16:14] <BluesKaj> corinth, if you have all you repositories enabled , it's available in apt or adept
[16:15] <corinth> BluesKaj: No, it's installed. ALl I see is a blue screen, though.
[16:15] <genii> apparle: After you have done the twiddling with alsa-libs or such that afterwards you said kmix worked fine until next reboot. Did the keyboard volume work properly at that point
[16:15] <BluesKaj> corinth, i use the video input on the card and audio line in on the pc, from the sat receiver
[16:15] <corinth> So do I.
[16:16]  * genii looks for his advil
[16:16] <corinth> BluesKaj: I can't see any picture, though :-/
[16:16] <apparle> genii: worked perfectly
[16:17] <ubuntu_> hola
[16:20] <apparle> genii: When I install ALSA-lib. kmix starts. I don't even switch to ALSA. But no use after reboot
[16:20] <BluesKaj> ok corinth , in the k-menu open the run command and enter :kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ... then add these lines under: Section "Device" just above End Section , : Option          "VideoOverlay" "on"  and under that :Option          "OpenGLOverlay" "off" .. then save the file and relogin
[16:22] <BluesKaj> err Option          "VideoOverlay" "on"
[16:22] <BluesKaj> err Option          "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
[16:22] <BluesKaj> ok, gotta go ...BBL
[16:24] <apparle> genii: tell me some dictionaries
[16:24] <risto> anyone know the apache restart command ?
[16:26] <apparle> anybody here know a dictionary
[16:29] <harry_> Hello all and are there any Real Estate professionals using linux?
[16:29] <harry_> Can someone advise me as a  newly minted agent what programs are useful to the Real estate market agent?
[16:29] <apparle> harry_:what are real estate
[16:30] <harry_> Buying and Sekking Homes
[16:30] <harry_> selling
[16:30] <apparle> nope
[16:31] <harry_> nope no agents using linux or nope cannot help me find programs that may be useful
[16:33] <harry_> I'm looking for a program that is similar to the windows program "top agent" that helps keep track of the buy sell transactions as well as the client information... Is there an alternative in KDE ubuntu that may be sufficient... Thanks for all the advance advice,,,, New Agent
[16:33] <t1n0m3n> I am having issues with knetworkmanager not displaying the wireless connection options.  iwlist scanning shows nearby access points, iwconfig shows that eth1 is the wireless card.  7.10, intel 3945
[16:35] <t1n0m3n> I have restarted the knetworkmanager tray icon, both NetworkManager processes, and the entire laptop...  Wireless never shows up in knetworkmanager
[16:35] <harry_> Or, can someone guide me as to where to find the information I seek... Such as a relevant chat room?
[16:36] <t1n0m3n> harry_ can you repost your ?
[16:36] <harry_> scroll up a bit
[16:37] <michael_> heya, kde is crashing on me before I can get the error (starting with a startkde from failsafe) how do I pipe all the errors to a log?
[16:37] <michael_> this is "nosrednaekim" BTW
[16:38] <harry_> I am looking for a program that is similar to the windows program "top agent" that helps keep track of the buy sell transactions as well as the client information. Is there an alternative in Kde ubuntu that that may be sufficient... Thanks for any help
[16:38] <apparle> bye everyone
[16:39] <harry_> bye appare;l
[16:39] <michael_> harry_: is this for eBay?
[16:40] <eckmaster> I need our help. it is very important. I'm searching for a tool to make a bruteforce attack to get the password of a linux system. I'm not hacking, really, it is the pc of my brother and he died last week in a car accident. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!
[16:41] <harry_> Michael.... NO it is for my own use... I am looking into the real estate business and I need all the edge I can get without feeding the Bill Gates revenge..
[16:43] <kub^> ty for help genii that fixed it :)
[16:44] <genii> kub^: You're welcome
[16:45] <matttis2> How can I give amarok (or other sound playing programs) higher priority so that I don't hear noise during the playback ? Or is it another problem ? (I didn't have this problem before upgrading from opensuse 10.1¹/2 to (k)ubuntu)
[16:48] <t1n0m3n> eckmaster: open adept and search on crack
[16:51] <genii> eckmaster: There is a simpler way
[16:51] <eckmaster> genii: i'm hearing
[16:53] <genii> eckmaster: Boot to livecd. Mount the old hd which used to be the root directory of linux. Open from there the file which is called /etc/shadow normally. depending on where mounted may be something like /mnt/somedrive/etc/shadow   then find the username in that file you wish to reset password of. There is a part which has a colon : then the hashed result of password. then another : remove everything between the two : and save it. Now
[16:53] <genii> is no passowrd
[16:56] <eckmaster> genii: the problem is that he has used RAID5 in combination with LVM. I tried to mount the drives with a live-cd, but it didn't work cause of the raid
[16:58] <genii> eckmaster: Yes that could be somewhat problemmatic then
[16:58] <eckmaster> genii: I can only mount the root directory as you said it but it only has 1,8GB. this is surely not the whole root-directory of a gentoo-system.
[16:58] <genii> eckmaster: His / was a RAID5 ?
[17:00] <genii> eckmaster: Well, you are in #kubuntu support not #gentoo :) But if you can mount the old root you can reset the password as i just described. although on gentoo I am not sure if then /etc/shadow is correct (on debian/ubuntu it is correct)
[17:01] <genii> eckmaster: If you reset the password from an accessible old / then when you boot the computer normally you should be able to login without password and acces the data RAID5 part
[17:02] <eckmaster> genii: I will try. thank you very much.
[17:03] <genii> eckmaster: You're welcome
[17:04]  * genii wonders what apparle meant by dictionaries
[17:13] <ubuntu> canonical is not paying so much attention to the superior KDE desktop ,giving all the credit to ubuntu instead ...
[17:14] <Tetrapus> hi there
[17:14] <ubuntu> so the question is ,why all you supreme KDE developers don't move to a more KDE friendly distro? sorry if offending anybody
[17:15] <Tetrapus> hi there. wanted to know how to remove all private data from kde, including cookies
[17:15] <genii> drsys: why not ask in #kubuntu-devel
[17:16] <jpatrick> genii: blah, trol
[17:16] <jpatrick> -l*
[17:17] <genii> Tetrapus: Do you mean more how do you purge internet private data?
[17:17] <genii> Seeing as cookies are a product of your web browwser for instance
[17:18] <Tetrapus> yes, genii, think so
[17:18] <BluesKaj> ahhh, half done ...heavy wet snow here , but it's turning colder
[17:21] <newb> hello everybody!
[17:24] <udi> Stupidly, I installed the ATI proprietary driver, and now my GUI KDE Desktop is gone.  How do I revert to the generic ati driver drom the command line?
[17:26] <blendtux> how can i edit program paths for kdeinit
[17:27] <BluesKaj> udi , the KDE GUI isn't gone , you just can't open X , the Xwindow system , due to the changes to your xorg file
[17:27] <BluesKaj> !Xserver
[17:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:28] <BluesKaj> !Xorg
[17:28] <udi> that is what I feared...
[17:28] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:28] <BluesKaj> ok udi ..are you on the TTY prompt ?
[17:28] <udi> yes
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ok , try the above command
[17:29] <BluesKaj> in your case it is : sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[17:29] <genii> Tetrapus: for that, you need to set inside of whichever web browser you are normally using the specifics. In firefox for instance you can set it to purge all personal data every time it closes, etc
[17:30] <udi> bluesKa, which command?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> udi, in your case it is : sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[17:30] <Tetrapus> why did i write KDE? i meant nautilus ~.~ genii
[17:31] <genii> Tetrapus: For nautilus perhaps ask in regular #ubuntu channel and not #kubuntu :)
[17:31]  * genii doesn't use nautilus much
[17:31] <udi> well, the terminal stuff disappeaared, but kdm did not appear
[17:32] <udi> the cursor is flickering on the upper right corner of my screen
[17:32] <waylandbill> so I am thinking I want to write a man page type document. Where would I look to get started doing that?
[17:33] <genii> udi: try alt-f7 to see if console 7 has the kdm on it
[17:34] <genii> udi: sorry, forget that, i just scrolled up to see history of your issue LOL
[17:34] <udi> I hit Cntrl-alt-delete and it is now stuck with kubuntu wheel and progress bar 1/3 done
[17:35] <genii> udi: Instead, do ctrl-alt-f1 to enter console 1 then login, and reconfigure xorg again etc
[17:35] <udi> I do have a copy of the old xorg.conf on a flash USB drive
[17:35] <genii> udi: then even better, just copy it back to /etc/X11
[17:36] <udi> I shall have to discover how to address the USB drive, but hold on
[17:36] <Tetrapus> genii: ii'm killing myself. i menat konqueror
[17:36] <Tetrapus> i always swap the names -.-
[17:38] <genii> Tetrapus: in konqueror. Settings...Configure Konqueror    then set options for cookies,cache etc etc there
[17:39] <udi> how do I find out the name of the flash drive?
[17:39] <udi> it does not appear in media
[17:39] <Tetrapus> got it, thanks genii
[17:41] <genii> udi: have it unplugged then do: dmesg|tail               then plug it in and do: dmesg|tail        and note what drive it says
[17:41] <deepfreez> hi, i running kubuntu, how i can install java for mozilla firefox?
[17:42] <udi> Damn-- it now claims I cannot cp xorg.conf to /etc/X11/ because it is a read-only file system!!!
[17:42] <genii> deepfreez: j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[17:43] <genii> udi: sudo mount -a -o rw
[17:44] <genii> udi: Wait... you on livecd?
[17:44] <udi> no, on another machine
[17:44] <deepfreez> genii, tnx
[17:44] <genii> deepfreez: np
[17:44] <udi> well, that failed
[17:45] <genii> udi: Then to remount all with option read/write should suffice
[17:45] <udi> FUSE mount point creation failed
[17:45] <genii> udi: eg: sudo mount -a -o rw
[17:45] <udi> I tried that, but got the FUSE response above
[17:46] <udi> fuse: failed to create temporary directory
[17:46] <udi> I have learned my lesson-- EACH time I mess around with video stuff, I have to reinstall... ;-(
[17:47] <udi> I tried the ATI drivers because Gutsy was very sluggish
[17:47] <udi> anyway, what can I do now?
[17:48] <udi> I won't let me copy the original (now defective) xorg.conf to another file
[17:49] <deepfreez> gene_, i install apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin , and don't work
[17:49] <deepfreez> Setting up gsfonts-x11 (0.20build1) ...
[17:49] <deepfreez> warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist or is not a directory
[17:50] <deepfreez> Setting up j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin (1:0ubuntu6) ...
[17:50] <deepfreez> deepfreez@homelinux:~$
[17:51] <genii> deepfreez: Looks like you have some other issue which needs resolving first.
[17:51] <deepfreez> gene_, who?
[17:51] <jhutchins> udi: How are you trying to copy it?
[17:51] <genii> !aptfix
[17:51] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:52] <genii> deepfreez: Do the sudo dpkg --configure -a               thing there
[17:52] <udi> cp xorg.conf xorg.nov-29-2007
[17:52] <genii> udi you have arguments reversed
[17:52] <udi> cp source destination... is that wrong?
[17:53] <genii> udi: firstly use full paths in this case
[17:53] <udi> I think it is right
[17:53] <udi> I am in the /etc/X11 directory
[17:54] <Kohlrabi> sudo cp ...
[17:54] <udi> sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.nov-29-2007
[17:54] <genii> udi: If you are trying to put xorg.conf from the local working directory into another file as backup then correct syntax. Excdpt as Kohlrabi points out may need sudo pre-pend
[17:55] <deepfreez> genii, don't work
[17:55] <udi> I did, and I still get Cannot create regular file 'xorg.nov-29-2007': read-only file system
[17:56] <genii> deepfreez: Same error? (about fonts etc)
[17:57] <genii> udi: sudo mount / -s -o rw
[17:58] <udi> I tried it, but still get the same result
[17:59] <udi> I guess I shall reboot and try again
[17:59] <deepfreez> genii, yes!
[17:59] <udi> (My WINDOWS reflexes)
[17:59] <genii> udi: Boot then to livecd and fsck the drive
[18:00] <genii> udi: or fsck it from where you are at commandprompt
[18:00] <udi> I am sure the drive is fine-- it was working perfectly until I install the ATI driver
[18:00] <genii> (since already ro mounted)
[18:00] <genii> udi: Yes but you have likely sloppy restart due to forcibly neding to turn off box, etc etc so fsck needs to scan
[18:01] <eckmaster> genii: i tried it out but it didnt work, in /etc/shadow there is the username like "username:845jnfgi89554kf:::"
[18:02] <genii> deepfreez: The package gsfonts-x11 has some issue
[18:02] <genii> eckmaster: Yes. I will give brief example
[18:02] <udi> now it seems to behave better
[18:03] <udi> can I simply replace the driver name with ati and restart?
[18:03] <udi> (in xorg.conf)
[18:03] <genii> eckmaster: If you see this    user:$1$gUXPPjbl$cf5UuicH48Wq7BOKXxC1g1:13724:0:99999:7:::        then make it this    user::13724:0:99999:7:::
[18:03] <hcbox> someody ran winxp trough kvm with compiz cube flip ? I'm looking for how to flip the the cibe using bind keys when qemu is full screen
[18:04] <eckmaster> genii: okay, thanx, i will try
[18:04] <udi> currently it says: driver "fglrx"
[18:04] <genii> udi: Yes you can
[18:04] <udi> ok-- here goes
[18:05] <BluesKaj> sorry gents ...was called away
[18:05] <udi> it looks as if this worked
[18:06] <udi> YES
[18:06] <deepfreez> Sun Java 5.0 Runtime
[18:06] <deepfreez> Rank:
[18:06] <deepfreez> Package: sun-java5-bin
[18:06] <deepfreez> Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture dependent files)
[18:06] <deepfreez> genii, ;) automatic i used Adept Installer
[18:06] <udi> so the fix for my sluggish Gutsy is not in a different ATI driver, which I cannot use...
[18:08] <shtoom> Hi everybody, How do I disable Xgl on kubuntu ? after installing Xgl I m not getting any thing on desktop except a black screen and a cursor
[18:08] <udi> thanks, guys-- great help
[18:08] <shtoom> I am using 7.10
[18:09] <BluesKaj> udi, sorry i was called away, but I'm sure genii and the very knowledgeable ppl helped you out ok
[18:13] <BluesKaj> bummer, missed him
[18:13] <BluesKaj> or her
[18:14] <eckmaster> genii: IT WORKED!!! I THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:16] <genii> eckmaster: LOL  you are welcome
[18:16] <joschwa2> guten abend
[18:16] <genii> !de | joschwa2
[18:16] <ubotu> joschwa2: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:17] <joschwa2> oh sorry
[18:17] <genii> BluesKaj: they were assisted :)
[18:18] <genii> deepfreez: Is your box still groaning about the fonts directory when you try to install something?
[18:18]  * genii hands Dr_willis a coffee
[18:19] <Dr_willis> put puts in 100 cugers in the coffee...
[18:19] <Dr_willis> oops Sugers.
[18:19] <Dr_willis> :P
[18:19] <Barbarello> Hi! How to install *.bin??
[18:19] <genii> Dr_willis: I can tell you need caffeine more than sugar!
[18:19] <Dr_willis> !bin
[18:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:19] <Dr_willis> chmod +x whatever.bin   ./whatever.bin
[18:20] <Dr_willis> what is this .bin anyway?
[18:20] <Barbarello> jre
[18:20] <bazhang> executable?
[18:20] <Barbarello> via shell (dolphin) its not (
[18:20] <Dr_willis> jre? you do know Java stuff is in the repositories. and installable with adept or other tools
[18:21] <ciacon> !tor
[18:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu and related channels prohibit access from proxy servers due to a high level of abuse. Project cloaks allowed: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[18:21] <Barbarello> i know. But i already have .bin )
[18:21] <Dr_willis> that can break things on down the line. Its best to use the repos
[18:21] <Barbarello> i know )
[18:22] <Barbarello> ok, ill try chmod
[18:22] <Dr_willis> last time i saw java stuff in .bin format. ya ran it.. it asked you to answer Y to the EULA. then it extracted a RPM :P
[18:22] <genii> Dr_willis: Yes, thats so annoying
[18:24] <Barbarello> nothing happend (
[18:24] <Dr_willis> of course .bin is annoying. :) what a silly extension to use
[18:25] <Dr_willis> You did chmod it.. then ran it?
[18:25] <Barbarello> i did chmod +x jre.bin
[18:25] <Barbarello> ...and silence
[18:26] <genii> Barbarello: sudo chmod +x <filename.bin>;sudo ./<filename.bin>    or sudo bash ./<filename.bin>
[18:26] <genii> note placement os "sudos"
[18:26] <genii> os->of
[18:27] <Barbarello> ya... i forgot, sorry )
[18:27] <Barbarello> all done! Thank you!
[18:29] <ciacon>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[18:30] <Zombocom> hey guys
[18:30] <Zombocom> are the package repositories down?
[18:30]  * genii does apt-get update to see
[18:31] <genii> Zombocom: Not the one in canada, or security one
[18:31] <Dr_willis> heh.. just chmoding it ..of course did nothing. :)
[18:31] <Zombocom> ...
[18:31] <Zombocom> I can't connect to it or something
[18:32] <genii> Zombocom: try pinging
[18:32] <Zombocom> what's the ip?
[18:32] <sybux> hi all
[18:33] <genii> Zombocom: Try ping by name first
[18:33] <sybux> can someone help me with installing kdm-kde4 ?
[18:33] <genii> Zombocom: security.ubuntu.com           ip is  91.189.88.37
[18:33] <magna__> hola
[18:34] <sybux> I've run the apt-get install kdm-kde4 command but after the install I got an error in dpkg : error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure)
[18:34] <sybux> error exist status 1
[18:34] <ThusLex> can someone help me with connecting my gusty to the internet via wireless??? (it runs off of my usb key)
[18:35] <Zombocom> it responds to the ping well
[18:35] <Dr_willis>  security.ubuntu.com  is working here with pings :)
[18:35] <Dr_willis> it became  auckland.canonical.com  however
[18:36] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[18:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:36] <Zombocom> aw crap
[18:36] <Zombocom> somethings wrong with adept
[18:36] <genii> Zombocom: Could be your local one, whatever it is usually <countrycode>.archive.ubuntu.com    or such
[18:37] <ThusLex> can anyone help me with the internet on ubuntu????
[18:37] <BluesKaj> genii, why do a chmod +x before compiling a .bin file ?
[18:37] <genii> BluesKaj: Because when you d/l it the executable bit is not preserved
[18:37] <ciacon> de.archive.ubuntu.com is answering.....
[18:37] <Berto> I'm having major problems with amarok.  If I uninstall it, aptitude wants to take kubuntu-desktop away too!  How do I just reinstall amarok?
[18:38] <genii> sudo apt-get install --reinstall amarok
[18:39] <BluesKaj> Berto, what's wrong with amarok ?
[18:39] <Berto> BluesKaj, it is freezing at startup
[18:39] <Berto> BluesKaj, i have an empty playlist come up, and then an hourglass and that's it.  not sure why...  i used to have a playlist but i got rid of that
[18:39] <ciacon> Berto: what kind of DB engine do you use?
[18:40] <Berto> ciacon, no clue.  I have MySQL on my LAMP setup
[18:40] <Berto> reintsalling amarok didn't work.  It's just totally frozen.  the KDE dependency on it seems ridiculous too
[18:41] <BluesKaj> Berto, do you have audio with other media players?
[18:41] <ciacon> Berto: have you got a big music-collection?? I went to #amarok the other day and they recomended me to migrate to a MySQL DB... (and as an added bonus you get a speedier ipod-db-update ;-) )
[18:41] <Berto> renaming ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok somewhat helped the problem... but it's not playing
[18:42] <ciacon> Berto: has it played before?
[18:42] <Berto> good idea BluesKaj
[18:42] <Berto> ciacon, yes, i do have a big music collection
[18:42] <pierreth> hello, do you know how I can add to open to my console like in Mac OS?
[18:42] <Berto> brb boss is callin
[18:42] <ciacon> Berto: they said 100ß+ is already a reason to change over to mysql
[18:43] <pierreth> I mean 'how to add the open command'?
[18:44] <matttis2> pierreth: what does open do ?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> pierreth,  a little more details. :) perhaps.. add it where?  You mean a "open a shell in this dir" type command to the context menu?
[18:44] <bazhang> ciacon: ipods work with amarok?
[18:44] <pierreth> I want to be able to open a file from the terminal the way it would be open from the desktop with a double click
[18:45] <pierreth> I know that there are tools for that but I don't remember the name
[18:45] <Dr_willis> You mean launch it with whatever default fileviewer/whatever is set for the program...
[18:45] <ciacon> bazhang: slowly but surely - mine freezez up for like 3 seconds (2,93ghz, 2gbram etcetc....) when I add one or many new song(-s)
[18:45] <pierreth> Dr_willis: yes
[18:45] <bazhang> ciacon: did not know that--thanks!
[18:46] <blendtux> stdin: you here
[18:46] <ciacon> bazhang: open amarok - plug in external media - choose media type (Apple Ipod in this case) and you are set to go....
[18:46] <ardchoille> pierreth: kfmclient exec filename  ?
[18:47] <bazhang> ciacon: cheers! will do :}
[18:47] <genii> Berto: rename ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc   then cp /etc/kde3/amarokrc ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc
[18:47] <pierreth> ardchoille: is kfmclient install by default?
[18:47] <ardchoille> pierreth: iirc, it's part of kde
[18:48] <pierreth> ardchoille: I don't want to execute the file
[18:48] <ardchoille> genii: Doesn't that happen automatically when you run amarok with no *rc file?
[18:48] <pierreth> ardchoille: I want to do 'open file.txt' and the file will open in kate
[18:48] <ardchoille> pierreth: You just said you did
[18:48] <genii> ardchoille: Yes, should. But he may have settings to keep
[18:49] <ardchoille> < pierreth> I want to be able to open a file from the terminal the way it would be open from the desktop with a double click
[18:49] <ardchoille> genii: Ah, right
[18:49] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes, this is what I want to do
[18:49] <ardchoille> pierreth: kfmclient exec filename
[18:49] <pierreth> ok I will try it now
[18:50] <ardchoille> That opens the file in the app that iassociated with that file association
[18:50] <pierreth> ardchoille: cool!
[18:51] <ardchoille> pierreth: That might be exactly what konqueror does in the bg when you double click a file
[18:51] <pierreth> ardchoille: now, I just need to make an alias to use 'open' instead?
[18:52] <ardchoille> pierreth: That might conflict with /usr/bin/open
[18:52] <pierreth> ardchoille: so 'Open' instead
[18:53] <ardchoille> How about "launch" ?
[18:53] <pierreth> I see that 'xdg-open' do the same
[18:53] <ardchoille> alias launch='kfmclient exec'
[18:53] <ardchoille> ?
[18:53] <pierreth> ardchoille: I prefer Open because it is 'open' in MacOS
[18:54] <ardchoille> alias Open='kfmclient exec'
[18:56] <Dr_willis> alias macossucks='kfmclient exec'
[18:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:56] <pierreth> ardchoille: It is working well!!
[18:56] <pierreth> Dr_willis: No, I think it is Apple that sucks :)
[18:57] <Dr_willis> pierreth,  i think its d) all of the above
[18:57] <ardchoille> pierreth: :)
[18:57] <pierreth> Dr_willis: I made a switch to linux to be free!
[18:58] <pierreth> thank you guys
[18:58] <Dr_willis> Darn.. I should of bought that Wii in the summer and kept it boxed up. :) i could make some profit now on it..
[18:58] <waylandbill> pierreth: free at last! :)
[18:59] <pierreth> waylandbill: yes but I still need software from Apple and M$ :-(
[18:59] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: I have a wal-mart about 50 miles away that keeps all the electronic goodies in stock (read as more than people buy up in 2 seconds time)
[19:00] <Dr_willis> I just walked into a BestBuyys and they had a wii on the shelf i grabbed on impulse.. next day i was there and someone was returning one.. I should of grabbed it also. :)
[19:00] <waylandbill> pierreth: that takes time. Apple and M$ had you under vendor lock-in for so long, it takes time to fully switch. Can't blame them even if I don't agree with it.
[19:00] <BluesKaj> hehe waylandbill, free at last, free at last , thank god almighty , free at last ... and no thanks to bill gates :)
[19:00] <Dr_willis> Guys at the return desk were.. "gee ya could sell it on ebay and make a profit" :)
[19:01] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. dont like ebay is selling them for that much of a mark up. Guess i will just keepmy Wii for Mii :)
[19:01] <pierreth> waylandbill: No I need to test my web pages with Safari and Explorer, otherwise I am OK
[19:01] <waylandbill> Dr_willis: it's a nice console. I've hit the dog in the head once and daughter almost put her hand in a ceiling fan. loads of fun. :-D
[19:02] <Dr_willis> Wife likes the Bowling game..  After she tossed the remote across the room...
[19:03] <waylandbill> pierreth: there are websites that will do that for you. You pick the browser and it gives you a screen capture of how it looked. Seriously though, if you stick to the standards, any browser on any platform should perform just fine.
[19:05] <pierreth> waylandbill: but you have to pay that service and theory and pratice is different, M$ does not like the standards
[19:05] <waylandbill> I know it's simpler to toss some javascript on the client end to validate a form, but that could be done on the server side and the client would just think it was standard html if it was done right. Of course, that doesn't take into consideration rollovers and such... must stay on topic though. :)
[19:06] <pierreth> waylandbill: back to Kubuntu :)
[19:08] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[19:08] <waylandbill> pierreth: if you really need to find the mac or windows roots without leaving kubuntu, there's always virtualbox. It's open source and works rather well.
[19:09] <pierreth> waylandbill: yes but I want to play games with Windows
[19:09] <pierreth> waylandbill: so I will need to install and two copies of Windows
[19:10] <pierreth> waylandbill: one native to play and another one virtual
[19:10] <waylandbill> pierreth: I hear that alot. It's a very valid argument. I personally abandoned the pc gaming and do it all on a console now.
[19:11] <pierreth> waylandbill: This is not fare to have to pay twice
[19:11] <waylandbill> pierreth: I think you can use the same copy in the VM. You have to activate it again. I'm not a lawyer, so that's not legal advice. :)
[19:11] <Berto> hey guys, i'm back with my amarok issue.  Business came up.
[19:11] <Berto> anyway, genii - thanks so much for fixing the problem!!  renaming amarokrc helped
[19:11] <waylandbill> pierreth: it was a shame to pay the first time. It's your hardware, but you have to pay to use it.
[19:12] <pierreth> waylandbill: I will to do that each time I am switching, this is a lot of trouble
[19:12] <Berto> ciacon, how do i change to MySQL i amarok?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's what i keep telling ppl...wanna game?  buy an Xbox, PS or whatever , they're designed for games
[19:12] <pierreth> waylandbill: yes almost all PC comes with Windows, it is not even a choice
[19:13] <Berto> BAH.  Playing a song in amarok froze it again
[19:13] <ardchoille> pierreth: You can also make a new, empty launcher on kicker and give it a command of "kfmclient exec" (without quotes), then drag and drop any file on that launcher and it will open in the appropriate app.
[19:14] <waylandbill> there are small companies that don't put any operating system on by default. you can get good deals through them if you already have a livecd.
[19:14] <genii> Berto: Glad to help
[19:14] <Berto> genii, not so fast... i'm still not able to play music
[19:15] <pierreth> ardchoille: that's cool but the solution you gave me was just what I wanted
[19:15] <genii> Heh :)
[19:15] <genii> Berto: unfortunately I'm fairly occupied now in #ubuntu giving others support. Perhaps another can assist you more in here than me right now
[19:16] <ciacon> Berto: I have some slight recomendations for that - first you have to open a new catalogue in mysql - then I added a new user which may only acess that catalogue, and then you are down to amarok... settings --> configure amarok --> collection (right tab) --> collection DB --> mysql - the rest should be self-explanitory ;-)
[19:16] <Berto> ciacon, ok cool, i'll try that, but i don't think it's the root cause of my issue right now
[19:18] <blendtux> could somebody tell me where in kubuntu are the scripts so i could disable tty2-tty6 from beeing loaded at boot
[19:18] <BluesKaj> Berto, have you set up a default soundcard on your machine ? try this : cat /proc/asound/cards  .. then : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard
[19:19] <Berto> BluesKaj, i only have one card, HDA-Intel.  Is the name "0" or is it HDA-Intel ??
[19:19] <Berto> BluesKaj, line 1 = 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel    and line 2 = HDA Intel at 0x8a300000 irq 22
[19:19] <pierreth> I am not able to use my mouse well to shade my windows
[19:19] <Berto> this has been working for a year
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Berto, definitely HDA-Intel
[19:19] <pierreth> do you have a idea why it does not work?
[19:22] <Berto> BluesKaj, ciacon, now amarok freezes after i try playing a song.  VLC and mplayer play it just fine
[19:23] <pierreth> Could the problem be the emulation of the tird mouse button?
[19:24]  * ScorpKing greets the pros and not-so-pros..
[19:25] <BluesKaj> Berto, ok, amarok is broken ...if you upgraded the OS lately sometimes the new codecs aren't installed properly or at all on amarok ... install libxine1-ffmpeg ..see if that helps
[19:26] <Berto> BluesKaj, i have no clue how, but it's working now. I think MySQL settings kicked in.  I started a song from the player window
[19:26] <BluesKaj> Berto, good!
[19:27] <Berto> BluesKaj, lost my 2007 playlist (gearing up for my article on best albums of the year), but i can recreate that slowly
[19:27] <ciacon> Berto: mysql working?
[19:27] <agruman> my "logitech dinovo edge" usb keyboard doesnt work in the setup screen, though it works in "live kde". And kde / X hangs every time i enter it on my system (using a ati hd 2600 xt graphics card, which i think is the cause). Is this something i can report somewhere?
[19:27] <Berto> ciacon, yes, the tables look great
[19:27] <Berto> ciacon, i love that, big MySQL guy here, wish i woulda known about that earlier
[19:27] <ciacon> Berto: *g*
[19:28] <ciacon> Berto: glad 'tis work'in again =)
[19:28] <ciacon> so folks - I'm off... bb all
[19:29] <anto> Can somone help me install swedish language package for open office?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> !se | anto you may have more luck here :
[19:30] <ubotu> anto you may have more luck here :: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:33] <declan> Hello folks, just read the *buntu bug 'High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime' athttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[19:33] <declan> ... and was trying to implement the best solution.
[19:33] <declan> I've gone with http://vale.homelinux.net/wordpress/?p=199
[19:34] <declan> Has anyone had any experience with this? Or could recommend or unrecommend the solution I've gone for.
[19:35] <ScorpKing> declan: is that the one written by tumbleweed?
[19:36] <ScorpKing> nvm. it's not
[19:42]  * genii returns for a minute to sip a coffee
[19:43] <ScorpKing> greetings genii
[19:43]  * genii slides ScorpKing a cup as well
[19:43] <genii> Berto: Glad to see you got some assistance :)
[19:44] <Berto> genii, yes thanks.  Your help might have done it, I have no clue what got this fixed.... :)
[19:45] <ScorpKing> declan: one way of fixing it is to run hdparm -B 254 /dev/foo after every resume/startup
[19:45]  * ScorpKing sips some coffee..
[19:45] <ScorpKing> ty genii ;)
[19:46] <genii> anytime ScorpKing :)
[19:46] <genii> uhoh
[19:47] <genii> Netsplit ?
[19:47]  * BluesKaj chomps on an english muffin with cheeseyep
[19:47] <ScorpKing> yep
[19:48] <BluesKaj> this server is stable most of the time
[19:49] <scooter_> when i open up adept, it says "arts" is broken
[19:49] <scooter_> why
[19:50] <ScorpKing> coz it's broken. fix it from cli
[19:50] <declan> ScorpKing: Thanks. Do you mean manually run it after each resume/startup?
[19:50] <ScorpKing> declan: yes
[19:51] <declan> I was hoping to do it more automagically
[19:51] <pierreth> How can I add an applet to have the weather in my application bar?
[19:51] <ScorpKing> declan: you can add it to the ACPI resume scripts
[19:51] <oliver3> pierreth, why not just look out of the window?
[19:51] <pierreth> oliver3: lol
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> pierreth: you may want to install "kweather"
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> !info kweather
[19:51] <ubotu> kweather: weather display applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1225 kB, installed size 2304 kB
[19:51] <ScorpKing> declan: that is if you suspend or resume your computer.
[19:52] <declan> ScorpKing: Cheers. Do you know is there any truth to the rumour that this setting will toast the laptop's HD?
[19:52] <ScorpKing> declan: if you don't use suspend just add it to /etc/rc.local
[19:53] <ScorpKing> declan: it makes sense and i just talk to one of the guys that reported it at first. maybe it sill be fixed soon.
[19:53] <ScorpKing> will*
[19:53] <pierreth> nosrednaekim: OK, done. Thank you.
[19:54] <declan> ScorpKing: 'it makes sense' - are you saying that it would be likely to toast the HD?
[19:55] <ScorpKing> in due time yes, from what i understand.
[19:55] <declan> ScorpKing: So what do you think the best thing to do is?
[19:56] <declan> toasted HD or worn HD???
[19:56] <ScorpKing> i still haven't fixed it on my laptop so i'm not too sure. worn HD i suppose
[19:58] <Jack111> hi
[19:59] <Jack111> how could i use the shell to create radnom numbers?
[20:01] <Jack111> i got it sorry, its echo $Random
[20:01] <declan> ScorpKing: Thanks for the help.
[20:01] <ScorpKing> yw
[20:06]  * chalcedony smiles
[20:09] <chalcedony> my husband is trying to reboot his computer (kubuntu) it says he has the capslock key on, won't take his pass .. what to do?
[20:09] <joseph> uh, turn off caps lock?
[20:10] <Alonea> why is it now that to install some apps you need the gusty cd? this is quite an inconvenience and I never saw anything like that before gusty
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> Alonea: remove the CD from the respository list
[20:13] <chalcedony> joseph: he dosen't have the capslock key on .. it seems to be turning it on by itself.
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> chalcedony: can he turn the caps lock Off?
[20:15] <chalcedony> he woke me up, when he couldn't get it to boot.. what in the kubuntu boot sequence might be wrong and how to fix it?
[20:16] <Radi01> Disk id utility?
[20:16] <BluesKaj> scooter_,w34=opopiouuyttrtradghk[;hgs//.././,m,m,nmnmhbnbvbvbxccx
[20:16] <ScorpKing> Radi01: looking for ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ ?
[20:16] <Alonea> nosrednaekim, thanks. Where is the repo file again?
[20:17] <Radi01> Remove that one?
[20:17] <ScorpKing> Radi01: that will give you the disk uuid
[20:17] <ScorpKing> don't remove it
[20:18] <Radi01> Oh I was looking for what alonea had described.
[20:18] <ScorpKing> oh. i'm lost, nvm
[20:19] <Alonea> nm...I found the option in adept. blind indeed
[20:19] <Radi01> k
[20:19] <Radi01> Wich one was it Alonea,
[20:19] <Alonea> Radi01: what do you mean? I unchecked the box for cdrom under manage repos.
[20:20] <Alonea> Radi01: if you want to actual file it: /etc/apt/source.list
[20:20] <Radi01> Removing the (cd) where YOU don't have to put the cd in every time.
[20:22] <Alonea> Radi01: yes. goto adept. goto manage repos. goto third-party software tab. uncheck cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.10_Gusty...
[20:22] <Radi01> ah : t/why.
[20:22] <Radi01> thanks
[20:23] <Alonea> np
[20:23] <Alonea> now why does adept lock almost every time I use it in gusty?
[20:23] <Radi01> After that?
[20:24] <Alonea> Radi01: thats it. It will want to redownload some list stuff, but thats ok.
[20:24] <Radi01> ok
[20:24] <xcasex> easy way to get the kde4 rc onto stock vanilla ubuntu?
[20:27] <Alonea> but seriously. every time I use adept it locks and I have to unlock it. wonder what change from fiesty and gusty is making it to misbehave so bad.
[20:28] <Alonea> or what I did to make it so bad....
[20:28] <ScorpKing> Alonea: use aptitude or apt-get from konsole and see what's the problem
[20:29] <ScorpKing> is there a way to remove all the <TAB> spaces in a textfile?
[20:29] <Alonea> ScorpKing: not sure. there was a java thing that was making it mad, but I removed it. Still seems to do it though. I will check again after I get all these installs on.
[20:30] <Alonea> ScorpKing: could always write a program to do it. I did something similar for my java class the other day. removed all extra spaces over one space
[20:30] <ScorpKing> ok. jou can also start adept from konsole and it will display the errors
[20:30] <ScorpKing> Alonea: i was looking for the easy way. :P
[20:31] <Alonea> ScorpKing: ah. well, if you have something like eclipse to compile and run I could give you code, but then again I have no idea if you have any programming experience.
[20:32] <ScorpKing> i'll manage with making a program. thanks anyway. ;)
[20:35] <Alonea> ScorpKing: okies! good luck
[20:35] <ScorpKing> :)
[20:36] <ubuntu_> yo
[20:36] <ubuntu_> i from latvia
[20:36] <ScorpKing> greetings ubuntu_
[20:37] <Alonea> ah, I knew a girl once from latvia
[20:38] <Radi01> Where is latvia.
[20:39] <Alonea> ScorpKing: kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11 , does that mean anything? (that is when adept is run through the terminal)
[20:39] <Alonea> Radi01: Europe. You can google where it is on a map.
[20:40] <Radi01> Thought so t/y
[20:40] <ScorpKing> Alonea: that won't be the problem. you'll see something after it crashed
[20:40] <BluesKaj> latvia is known as one of the baltic states , across the baltic from sweden and finland and between poland and russia
[20:41] <Radi01> cool.
[20:41] <Alonea> ScorpKing: ok, will try that again when methinks it will crash, if it does at all...*glares at adept*
[20:41] <Radi01> I would like to vivit norway some time..I hear the people are decent.
[20:43] <Radi01> lol (glares at adept).
[20:44] <Alonea> ScorpKing: dcop something rather...uuwa?
[20:45] <ScorpKing> hmm.. nope, don't thinks so
[20:45] <ScorpKing> it will most likely be something about dpkg
[20:46] <Alonea> ScorpKing: now it really is wigging out. came up with an error box saying to make sure some dcop was running and then things went real slow
[20:46] <Alonea> I didn't catch the whole message.
[20:47] <Radi01> dpkg-reconfigure?
[20:47] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[20:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:47] <ScorpKing> give that a try
[20:48] <Radi01> that's the one scorpking I couldn't remember.
[20:49] <Alonea> when my terminal eventually loads I will try....wow I am good at pissing off my computer
[20:49] <Zombocom> yo
[20:50] <Radi01> When that comes up hit (why) and it will re-do some things...its what I (had) to do.
[20:50] <Radi01> y
[20:50] <Zombocom> none of the adept programs are actually getting any programs
[20:50] <ScorpKing> !wtf | Alonea
[20:50] <ubotu> Alonea: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:50] <Radi01> goofy script
[20:50] <ScorpKing> :P
[20:50] <Zombocom> I mean, none of the adept package managers are able to acess the internet
[20:50] <Cyberfly> hello!
[20:50] <Cyberfly> can anyone assist me with raid 5 ?
[20:50] <Zombocom> !kdm
[20:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <ScorpKing> !raid
[20:51] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:51] <Cyberfly> tnx
[20:51] <ScorpKing> yw
[20:51] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: how are you connected to the internet?
[20:52] <Alonea> ScorpKing: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a did not report anything
[20:52] <Zombocom> ScorpKing it happened with both an ethernet connection and wireless
[20:52] <ScorpKing> Alonea: what are you trying to install?
[20:53] <Cyberfly> is there a url for nvidia driver installation too ? :D
[20:53] <Radi01> sudo touch /forcefsck            would that reload any missing scripts?
[20:54] <ScorpKing> !nvidia
[20:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:54] <Alonea> ScorpKing: Its doing ok right now, but before it would lock no matter what I would install. It might have just taken it a while to see that the problem (sun-java-doc) was gone and is now fixed. won't know until it happens again
[20:54] <Cyberfly> :D
[20:54] <Cyberfly> !coffee
[20:54] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[20:54] <Cyberfly> brilliant
[20:54] <Radi01> lol
[20:54] <ScorpKing> :)
[20:54] <tekteen> !botsnack
[20:54] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[20:55] <ScorpKing> Alonea: nice.
[20:55] <Cyberfly> this thing has answers for everything
[20:55] <Zombocom> !god
[20:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:55] <tekteen> Cyberfly: yep
[20:55] <ScorpKing> !botabuse
[20:55] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:55] <Zombocom> lol
[20:55] <ScorpKing> even for that. :P
[20:55] <Cyberfly> damn
[20:55]  * Alonea laughs
[20:56] <Alonea> its fun messing with the bot on occasion. gotta have a laugh sometimes
[20:56] <tekteen> yep
[20:56] <Zombocom> right
[20:56] <Zombocom> so anyone
[20:56] <Zombocom> can you help me?
[20:56] <Zombocom> aptitude isn't connecting to the internet
[20:56] <Radi01> threaten it.
[20:56] <Zombocom> lol, what?
[20:56] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: can you ping the servers?
[20:56] <Zombocom> yes
[20:57] <cybrhuman> Maybe I just screwed up my pc. I formatted my windows partition, which was marked "boot" or "active". have screwed up?
[20:57] <Zombocom> scorpking: yes I've done it
[20:57] <ScorpKing> hmm.. weird
[20:57] <Zombocom> scorpking: I really need it because I accidentally uninstalled kdm
[20:57] <ScorpKing> cybrhuman: hehe. maybe.
[20:58] <Zombocom> none of the adept programs are working
[20:58] <ScorpKing> !grub | cybrhuman
[20:58] <ubotu> cybrhuman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:58] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: does it just time out?
[20:58] <Cyberfly> how long does a 900gb raid5 array normally take to sync ?
[20:59] <Cyberfly> cant seem to find anything about this
[20:59] <BluesKaj> Zombocom, maybe your repos are down...mine were down for 4hrs last week
[20:59] <Cyberfly> I've gotten pretty far on this but this is the first linux raid setup I've done ;/
[20:59] <Cyberfly> does 370minutes sound right?
[21:00] <ScorpKing> no idea
[21:00] <Cyberfly> mmh
[21:00] <Zombocom> ScorpKing: I've pinged the repos
[21:00] <Zombocom> Scorpking:they seem alright
[21:00] <Cyberfly> guess its an overnighter then
[21:00] <Zombocom> ScorpKing: I think I'll wait though, they might be doing maintanance
[21:01] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: or try another server
[21:01] <cybrhuman> ScorpKing: grub's living in boot folder on my root partition, but I dont know what is making grub start, did the pointer live on to "active partition
[21:01] <cybrhuman> ?
[21:02] <ScorpKing> cybrhuman: grub will install the mbr on the active partition which will then load all the files from /boot
[21:02] <Zombocom> ScorpKing: I did, I tried canada's it didn't work either
[21:02] <Zombocom> ScorpKing: I'm just going to wait
[21:02] <ScorpKing> ok
[21:03] <genii> Zombocom: For Canadian repo i have a non-standard mirror, debian.yorku.ca
[21:03] <genii> Zombocom: The ca.archive.ubuntu.com or so is tooooooo slow even when you are here near it
[21:04]  * ScorpKing pass genii a fresh coffee..
[21:04] <Alonea> now on installing the rc1 of kde4 after I get everything on, do I just log out, choose kde4 and hope it works or what?
[21:04] <Zombocom> I'm in california gengii
[21:04] <Zombocom> my adept package management programs aren't functioning correctly
[21:04] <cybrhuman> ScorpKing: will a reinstall of GRUB do?
[21:04] <ScorpKing> cybrhuman: as far as i know
[21:05]  * genii sips
[21:05] <Alonea> Zombocom: you could always beat them with a hammer...^^;;;
[21:05] <Radi01> gulps.
[21:05] <Zombocom> Alonea: I wish
[21:05] <Radi01> hiccup.
[21:05] <genii> ScorpKing: Thanks :)
[21:05] <Alonea> Zombocom: *sigh* why can't things always be fixed with the russian method....
[21:05] <ScorpKing> Zombocom: try to download the package and install in manually
[21:06] <ScorpKing> genii: yw ;)
[21:06] <Alonea> gonna see what happens now with kde4 rc1...
[21:06] <cybrhuman> ScorpKing: will that be a reinstall through adept manager or is it some command lines? where do I find the commands?
[21:07] <Radi01> What's that suppose to do Aloena.
[21:07] <ScorpKing> cybrhuman: i've never had to install grub again so i'm not sure.
[21:08] <ScorpKing> try that link from ubotu
[21:08] <Radi01> What's the advantage of kde4 rc1
[21:08] <ScorpKing> Radi01: you can report bugs so it can be fixed
[21:08] <cybrhuman> !grub
[21:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:09] <Radi01> ah ok
[21:12] <xoqa> trying to install off-the-record plugin for kopete...
[21:12] <xoqa> is there a package for it in a repository?
[21:13] <xoqa> or do i have to compile it from source?
[21:13] <xoqa> because i tried compiling from source but received the message: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executablesSee `config.log' for more details.
[21:13] <trappist> xoqa: kopete-otr
[21:13] <trappist> xoqa: hint: apt-cache search kopete record
[21:13] <trappist> also, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:14] <xoqa> trappist, i've tried that but it doesn't give me anything
[21:14] <trappist> what doesn't?
[21:14] <trappist> oh maybe you don't have the same repositories as me
[21:14] <squarebottle> I love Dolphin, but is there a way to add "Delete" to the context menu in addition to having "Move to Trash"?
[21:14] <xoqa> apt-cache search otr
[21:14] <xoqa> apt-cache search record
[21:15] <xoqa> apt-cache search kopete record
[21:15] <trappist> it's in universe, so you'll have to enable that in your sources.list
[21:15] <trappist> !universe
[21:15] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[21:15] <xoqa> trappist: ah
[21:15]  * xoqa hasn't used ubuntu in a long time
[21:15] <trappist> heh.
[21:16] <joseph> trappist: are you a member of the OCSO?
[21:16] <trappist> joseph: never heard of it
[21:17] <Oax> is there a proper place to get a kubuntu/feisty install .iso?  I can't find a link on the official pages
[21:17] <trappist> joseph: oh the trappist thing :) no
[21:17] <joseph> heh
[21:17] <trappist> Oax: why not grab gutsy?
[21:17] <joseph> order of cistercians of the strict observance
[21:17] <Oax> trappist i did.  gutsy has been a disaster on my t60
[21:18] <trappist> Oax: I have a t60, I can help
[21:18] <cybrhuman> do anyone here know a easy command for fixing mbr?
[21:18] <trappist> cybrhuman: depends what's broke
[21:19] <trappist> cybrhuman: you could try update-grub
[21:19] <Oax> trappist trappist cool.   what did you do to fix the suspend troubles with fglrx?  I installed an older kenel 2.6.20-16 as per advice on some blog, but it did not help.  it still won't resume
[21:19] <trappist> or grub-install
[21:19] <Cyberfly> !networking
[21:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:19] <Cyberfly> mmh
[21:19] <trappist> Oax: I don't suspend, so I haven't run into that one
[21:20] <Cyberfly> how would I search for advanced network setups?
[21:20] <Oax> trappist ah.  I suspend routinely.   where do I find a feisty .so ?
[21:20] <xoqa> guess i'll have to restart kopete to use the plugin
[21:20] <Cyberfly> !network
[21:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:20] <Cyberfly> :/
[21:20] <Cyberfly> !lan
[21:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:20] <Cyberfly> grr
[21:20] <cybrhuman> trappist: windows partition was active; I thought I was smart and formatted it to free space and somebody tells me that now I ereased mbr... which I think is a bad move...
[21:21] <trappist> Oax: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/feisty/
[21:21] <trappist> cybrhuman: if you haven't installed ubuntu yet, the installer will take care of that
[21:21] <Oax> trappist yeah I found that one through some searches, but I wasn't sure if it was official / preferred / whatever
[21:22] <trappist> Oax: also, have you filed a bug report, or looked for this bug on launchpad?
[21:22] <cybrhuman> trappist: I have ubuntu installed
[21:22] <Oax> trappist yeah it's all over.
[21:22] <trappist> Oax: kubuntu.org only shows the latest release and the latest lts release, but most of the mirrors keep older releases.  they should all be the same iso.
[21:23] <Cyberfly> u know cybrhuman I checked a lot of info on that with my search for raid tutorials
[21:23] <Oax> cool thanks.   I'll give feisty a whirl
[21:23] <Alonea> has anyone installed the latest kde? I seem to be lost on the how of it.
[21:23] <Alonea> attempting to follow this page: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[21:23] <Radi01> 7.10?
[21:24] <cybrhuman> Cyberfly: I am a newbie, I find lots of info but I can't decipher it, will a update-grub or grub-install fix it? the /boot folder is instact
[21:26] <Alonea> Radi01: oh, I didn't get a chance to answer your question. KDE4 is a new desktop environment, though it is technically still at a final release stage
[21:27] <Radi01> ok thanks.
[21:28] <ubuntu_> hello all of you
[21:28] <Alonea> Radi01: *still not at a final..
[21:28] <Cyberfly> yeah cyb it prolly will considering it needs the mbr
[21:28] <_Shade_> hi
[21:28] <Radi01> I'll waith then..
[21:29] <Alonea> Radi01: however, the final should hopefully be out sometime in December.
[21:29] <_Shade_> i would like to rip some wma stream... the point is i dont know how
[21:29] <_Shade_> i dont even know the exact url
[21:29] <cybrhuman> Cyberfly: grub-install seems to be able to fix it but I am unsure on the parameters
[21:30] <Cyberfly> cybrhuman: youre not dualbooting ?
[21:30] <cybrhuman> removing the dualboot
[21:30] <Radi01> cool..I used ubuntu 4 six months/I like it/Just got the kubuntu
[21:30] <Cyberfly> o ok
[21:30] <Kohlrabi> not anymore *cough*
[21:30] <Radi01> works nice.
[21:30] <cybrhuman> Cyberfly: must I set a new active partition?
[21:30] <Cyberfly> is it a sep drive or partition ?
[21:30] <Alonea> Radi01: KDE4 is scheduled to release Dec. 11 if things go well
[21:31] <Radi01> nice.
[21:31] <Radi01> Makes out christmas list.
[21:32] <cybrhuman> Cyberfly: sep? sda2 was windows part, set to "boot" or "active" (sd1 recovery) sda3 linux root
[21:32] <Cyberfly> sorry
[21:32] <Cyberfly> my bad
[21:32] <Cyberfly> sep=separate
[21:32] <Cyberfly> ok
[21:33] <Cyberfly> grr
[21:33] <Cyberfly> need to register
[21:33] <Cyberfly> so you have 1 drive and 2 partitions
[21:34] <Cyberfly> sda1 is linux and sda2 is windows
[21:34] <breny> anyone know how to run crossover//ubuntu-gusty
[21:35] <cybrhuman> Cyberfly: sda1 recovery disk sda2 windows (active) and sda3 linux (sda4 swap)
[21:35] <cybrhuman> Cyberfly: 4
[21:37] <psyfly> cybrhuman: check the pvt msg
[21:38] <Alonea> oh, I think I might of figured out what I did wrong...gah...
[21:38] <Radi01> ?
[21:38] <Radi01> come clean/lol
[21:38] <cybrhuman> psyfly: i cant answer in /msg, it is Gutsy
[21:38] <psyfly> ooh
[21:39] <cybrhuman> is nickserv down?
[21:39] <psyfly> no
[21:39] <psyfly> I just registered now
[21:39] <cybrhuman> funny cause I thought i was registered
[21:40] <psyfly> cybrhuman: have you tired something like gparted?
[21:40] <psyfly> gnome partition editor.
[21:40] <psyfly> seems to be an easy alternative to the console
[21:41] <roro_> salut
[21:42] <mikeo> is there a wireless guide
[21:43] <mikeo> it worked from the live cd, but when i boot it now it doesn't detect any netwoorks
[21:43] <psyfly> !networking
[21:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:43] <psyfly> !network
[21:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:43] <psyfly> thats it :D
[21:43] <mikeo> thanks
[21:44] <roro_> do someone know how can I use the VIVO connection of my graphic card?
[21:44] <mikeo> its intel pro/wireless 3945ABG
[21:47] <mikeo> hmmm everything says it is included and should work by default
[21:47] <mikeo> is there a way to troubleshoot it?
[21:47] <mikeo> it doesn't detect any networks, but shows up in the network cards
[21:47] <mikeo> and i can set static settings
[21:47] <mikeo> but want to list wireless networks and connect to them
[21:50] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[21:51] <roro_> nobody know how use a VIVO conexion with ubuntu???
[21:51] <psyfly> nvidia?
[21:54] <blendtux> stdin: you here
[21:56] <blackwaltz> i've got a quick question -- Does dpkg/apt look inside of folders when looking at /var/cache/apt/archives for cached packages? (I'm thinking of trying to unify my desktops and laptops caches ... if possible of course)
[21:57] <tekteen> blackwaltz: prob not
[21:58] <blackwaltz> tekteen:darn
[21:59] <dwidmann> Hmm, perhaps I could do it some other way then ... guess I could probably set a cron job to do it.
[22:00] <tekteen> dwidmann: why not use rsync
[22:00] <tekteen> ?
[22:00] <dwidmann> tekteen: mind giving me the particulars on how to use it ... I've never really used rsync before.
[22:01] <tekteen> !rsync
[22:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:01] <ciacon> hi all
[22:01] <tekteen> I do not really know
[22:01] <tekteen> I worked with is a few months ago
[22:01] <tekteen> if u want I will TRY to help
[22:01] <ciacon> I have a Q - has anyone installed Tor?? I am someway failing to find a propper man or tutorial on the net for 7.10... can someone help me pls?
[22:02] <tekteen> dwidmann: first open a konsole and install it (sudo apt-get install rsync)
[22:02] <dwidmann> done
[22:03] <tekteen> try this site for how to use it: http://everythinglinux.org/rsync/
[22:04] <tekteen> g2g
[22:09] <sMonk> I am having trouble booting my Kubuntu 7.10 system.. I'm getting a Grub Error 2 ... any ideas?
[22:09] <scooter_> How do i fix the "arts" file if adept says its "broken"
[22:11] <Alonea> about to give up on trying to install kde...I can't seem to find instructions!
[22:12] <_Shade_> !ntfs
[22:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[22:12] <_Shade_> !NTFS-3g
[22:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[22:13] <scooter_> so i need help fixing my "arts" file
[22:16] <sMonk> Anyone available for a Grub problem?
[22:17] <scooter_> can someone help me fix my "arts" problem?
[22:17] <scooter_> i cant apt-get
[22:18] <sMonk> scooter_ somethings up, I've never seen it this "dead" in here before
[22:18] <scooter_> yea neither have i.....
[22:18] <scooter_> but when i open adept, its says my art file is "broken"
[22:19] <scooter_> and konsole says without that i cant apt-get
[22:19] <sMonk> Hmm.. what's the error you get?
[22:19] <_Shade_> how can i mount ntfs partitions using r/w mode?
[22:19] <scooter_> its in the update list, it says "borken-installed"
[22:19] <_Shade_> i have installed ntfs-config but i cannot start it
[22:20] <sMonk> Well scooter_ I don't know, that's a new one to me
[22:21] <sMonk> _Shade_: sorry to tell you, but scooter_ and I have noticed that this channel seems "dead"
[22:21] <sMonk> it's like the lights are on, no one home
[22:21] <scooter_> yea i c that
[22:22] <scooter_> ok i have a question
[22:22] <scooter_> i have a sd card slot
[22:22] <scooter_> can i get kubuntu to read that somehow?
[22:23] <sMonk> nomally you can.. I have one too, and I found that when I insert it, Dolphin brings it up for me
[22:24] <Eduardiyo> tengo un problema...
[22:24] <scooter_> yea i put it in and nothing's happening for me
[22:24] <scooter_> que?
[22:24] <Eduardiyo> W: GPG error: http://debian.meebey.net ./ Release: Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY 7127E5ABEEF946C8
[22:24] <Eduardiyo> cómo hago para conseguir una llave pública? :S
[22:24] <sMonk> Hmmm.. can't say..
[22:25] <Eduardiyo> sorry
[22:25] <Eduardiyo> :S
[22:25] <sMonk> Yo no puedo hacer español bien arrepentido.
[22:25] <scooter_> esta bien
[22:26] <sMonk> Arrepentido
[22:26] <sMonk> Sé muy poco.
[22:27] <xoqa> koffice2 ... that's not koffice?
[22:27] <yann_> hello... I have a problem, I don't find my /etc/iftab file...
[22:27] <xoqa> is there a non-dev koffice package available?
[22:27] <ardchoille> yann_: You mean /etc/sftab?
[22:28] <xoqa> what i meant to say earlier is that "is it the main koffice package?" i'm looking for the non-dev.
[22:28] <xoqa> if there is one..
[22:28] <yann_> ardchoille: mhh.. no /etc/iftab.. it is to change my eth0 to wlan0
[22:29] <yann_> apparantly I have to do this in /etc/iftab (don't have a sftab either btw)
[22:29] <ardchoille> yann_: Ah, ok. I aksed because I don't have an /etc/iftab either
[22:30] <ardchoille> Sorry, menat /etc/fstab
[22:31] <Alonea> anyone know where I could get some help installing kde4 rc1?
[22:31] <ardchoille> !kde4
[22:32] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[22:32] <sMonk> Strange, I've gone through the Kubuntu forums, and can't find anything about a "Grub Error 2"
[22:32] <Alonea> ardchoille: found packages, but I don't know how to install them. I have only done stuff like make, make install, and ./file . Unless that wiki page has something on it.
[22:33] <ardchoille> Alonea: kde4 is in the repos, no need to compile
[22:33] <Alonea> ardchoille: it is? where? I never saw anything at all about it being in the repos. the kde site just opensuse had repos...
[22:34] <ardchoille> Alonea: apt-cache search kde4  ?
[22:35] <Alonea> ardchoille: now, I know the old beta was in the repos a while back, but those were too buggy for me to run.
[22:36] <ardchoille> Alonea: Well, kde4 is still beta (regardless of giving it a name of "rc1), IMHO, so expect problems
[22:37] <Alonea> ardchoille: I just don't see any of the packages they list to download on the repos.
[22:37] <xoqa> how stable is koffice2?
[22:41] <orlandoj> hi, someone had install an scanner Genius Vivid 3XE ?
[22:41] <orlandoj> what is necessary to install this scanner ? what packages ?
[22:49] <xoqa> where would the koffice1 package be?
[22:49] <xoqa> i'm only seeing koffice2
[23:00] <corinth> How do I get Kubuntu to recognize my forward / back buttons on my mouse?
[23:04] <Vermux> does SBM useful?
[23:05] <sdlnxgk> ok I can't remember where sessions are at in kubuntu so I can add firestarter to the startup command
[23:05] <scrash08> hi.  i'm migrating from tbird->kmail.
[23:05] <scrash08> i've setup an imap account. i see it in kmail's 'folder list', with INBOX and all other folders listed.
[23:05] <scrash08> BUT, i *also* see a folder named "~", with contents that mirror a 2nd copy of all my imap folders.
[23:05] <scrash08> clearly a config issue ... but what to tweak?  thanks.
[23:05] <sdlnxgk> can anyone help me??
[23:05] <george_> o q começa com ku na frente e tem tu atras ???
[23:05] <george_> é o kubuntu
[23:16] <Tarin> any one know how to fix a broken apt?
[23:17] <ardchoille> !aptfix
[23:17] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:17] <TopAgent> how can I see what is in my computer as in MYcomputer in a windows invironment?
[23:17] <ardchoille> TopAgent: system:/  <-- type that into konqueror
[23:17] <TopAgent> thx
[23:25] <eg5> hi
[23:26] <eg5> is it possible to see the applications which use a module
[23:26] <eg5> kernel module
[23:26] <yann_> hello
[23:26] <eg5> i want to use the parport_pc in parallels but it is used by another program and i dont know which application uses it
[23:26] <NickPresta> hi, yann_
[23:27] <yann_> zed but I'm unable to see/join any network :((  (it is a broadcom 4311) I already triec ndiswrapper etc.. but now I don't know what to do anymore :(
[23:27] <yann_> oops
[23:27] <yann_> lost my text
[23:27] <TopAgent> how can I change settings to open xchat and come directly to #kuuntu instead of going to #ubuntu first?
[23:27] <yann_> using the proprietary drivers manager, my wireless card is recognized but I'm unable to see/join any network
[23:28] <NickPresta> TopAgent, XChat (The menu) > Network List > find Freenode > click on Edit > add #kubuntu to "Channels to join"
[23:29] <Narissa> I am running kubuntu 7.10.  I install kdmtheme just fine, then when I try to go into administrator mode it complains of override files.  Any advice or solution would be appreciated 8)
[23:30] <harry__> thx
[23:30] <NickPresta> Narissa, as far as I know, this is a bug. The kdm theme module doesn't take into consideration a file in /etc/default/kdm.d/
[23:30] <Narissa> Nick: so I am to assume that any theme's I install or use will be done manually then?
[23:31] <kub^> hi, i have a logitech g5 mouse and want to use the side buttons for forward and back in firefox, any clues on where to start ? (gutsy)
[23:32] <NickPresta> Narissa, AFAIK, the kdm module is useless right now. Any themes downloaded from kde-look.org or something similar have to be added manually by editing the file in /etc/default/kdm.d/. Let me see if I can find anything on Launchpad
[23:32] <Narissa> Nick: kk 8) tyvm for the assist btw
[23:32] <Narissa> kub: you have the buttons working in general yes?
[23:32] <kub^> yeah scroll and the +/- mouse speed buttons work
[23:34] <Narissa> kub: give this a shot http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3810042
[23:35] <Narissa> Apparently a guy got them to work by adjusting his xorg off a fresh install, maybe that could give you a start.  8)
[23:35] <kub^> ok will give it a blast thanks :)
[23:35] <Narissa> kub: there are multiple tips in there for you to try 8)
[23:36] <NickPresta> Narissa, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/148706  So apparently you need to edit the file manually or wait for a fix.
[23:36] <Narissa> Nick: LOL I am almost tempted to just wait on KDE4 which comes stock
[23:37] <NickPresta> Narissa, heh.
[23:37] <Narissa> isn't the rc up already
[23:37] <NickPresta> !kde4
[23:37] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[23:37] <Narissa> yeah rc1 is released will check the repos
[23:38] <Narissa> yeah the rc is up with it's appropriate language of may kill yoru computer in teh head with cat5 cable
[23:39] <patrik> tjena
[23:39] <Narissa> has anyone on here given kde4 rc1 a shot?
[23:40] <patrik> anybody knows why messenger won't work?
[23:40] <Narissa> patrik: which messenger?
[23:40] <patrik> msn
[23:41] <ardchoille> patrik: kopete?
[23:41] <patrik> yes
[23:41] <ardchoille> patrik: Does it crash when connecting to msn?
[23:41] <patrik> exactly
[23:41] <Hirvinen> Gaah.
[23:41] <Hirvinen> patrik: Damn your nick. Causes me extra highlights.
[23:41] <ardchoille> patrik: It's a known bug, you need to: sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:42] <patrik> sorry hirvinen :(
[23:42] <TopAgent> I seem to have a problem,, The add remove is saying that 7zip is on my computer but the find files cannot find it anywhere.. I was searching in home and /
[23:42] <TopAgent> where could it be hiding]\
[23:43] <patrik> thanks guy's, i'll try to do the upgrade
[23:43] <NickPresta> TopAgent, in a Konsole, type "which 7zip" and "locate 7zip"
[23:43] <TopAgent> thx ill try
[23:43] <Narissa> beat me to it 8)
[23:43] <Hirvinen> patrik: Well, it's not your fault that the namespace is so limited. Collisions are common.
[23:44] <NickPresta> Hirvinen, how does "patrick" cause highlighting for you?
[23:44] <ardchoille> NickPresta: It's his first name and he set a hilight?
[23:44] <Hirvinen> NickPresta: "patrik", without 'c'. And it's my first name, which some people use to address me.
[23:45] <NickPresta> Hirvinen, ah, well. That would seem to be your fault then =P
[23:45] <Hirvinen> Megget: No need to change nicks.
[23:45] <NickPresta> It's okay. I used to highlight "Nick" and quickly realized that was not a good idea.
[23:45] <Megget> Haha, I was going to anyway :)
[23:46] <ardchoille> NickPresta: lol
[23:47] <Hirvinen> Hmm, Irssi doesn't have capability to exclude sources for highlight matching, only to include only given sources.
[23:50] <isaac_> hola
[23:51] <bmk789> is there a way to rename my eth2 to eth1?
[23:51] <Narissa> isaac_: howdy
[23:53] <TopAgent> how can I open a .zip  file that I downloaded for ubuntu
[23:53] <isaac_> ??
[23:53] <isaac_> with Ark
[23:53] <Narissa> TopAgent: first install unzip, synaptic or apt-get will do
[23:54] <TopAgent> thx ill try that now
[23:54] <nick__> how do i start the bullet proof x server in ubuntu?
[23:54] <Narissa> TopAgent: I normally just open konsole and go to the file then unzip (filename)
[23:54] <Narissa> AFK
[23:54] <TopAgent> how do I " GOTO" a file?
[23:55] <TopAgent> in console\
[23:55] <TopAgent> what would I type for  a goto command
[23:56] <isaac_> Hi
[23:56] <isaac_> voyez
[23:57] <voyez> osti kina pua
[23:57] <voyez> no et puc enviar privats
[23:57] <isaac_> escolta
[23:57] <voyez> digus
[23:57] <voyez> digues
[23:57] <isaac_> connectat al canal
[23:57] <voyez> a quin
[23:57] <isaac_> programant
[23:57] <xoqa> 'ello, i've installed the 'ubuntu-resricted-extras' package but still konqueror doesn't play youtube videos. help?
[23:57] <voyez> com ho fas?
[23:58] <isaac_> join
[23:58] <isaac_> #canal
[23:58] <voyez> join #programant
[23:58] <voyez> així?
[23:58] <isaac_> exacte
[23:58] <voyez> doncs això és el que em surt..
[23:58] <voyez> no fa res
[23:58] <voyez> ah
[23:58] <voyez> ara
[23:58] <isaac_> o archivo
[23:58] <isaac_> unirse a canal
[23:58] <voyez> ah si