[10:04] <armin76> asac: the patches for ia64 and ppc got commited *g*
[10:06] <asac> armin76: fine !
[10:14] <Ubulette> so only hppa left
[10:14] <asac> yes
[10:33] <asac> @time sydney
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[10:34] <armin76> Ubulette: but hppa is not supported yet
[10:34] <armin76> @time vostok
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[10:34] <asac> by ubuntu?
[10:34] <armin76> by mozilla
[10:35] <asac> no arch except i386 is supported :)
[10:35] <asac> hppa worked on 2.0 for debian and us
[10:35] <armin76> with a patch :P
[10:35] <armin76> because xpcom is missing the config for hppa/linux
[10:35] <armin76> and the asm files
[10:36] <armin76> but with that patch it didn't work on 1.9
[10:37] <armin76> or 3.0 :)
[10:38] <asac> i don't see any patch in firefox 2 debian/patches
[10:39] <armin76> look in the diff
[10:40] <asac> what file?
[10:40] <armin76> grep 'parisc' iceweasel_2.0.0.10-2.diff
[10:41] <asac> yeah ... it obsolete ... in ubuntu there is no parisc patch but hppa still builds
[10:41] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox/2.0.0.10+2nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[10:41] <asac> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox/2.0.0.10+2nobinonly-0ubuntu2
[10:42] <asac> don't ask me why ;)
[10:43] <armin76> make[8]: Entering directory `/build/buildd/firefox-2.0.0.10+2nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix'
[10:43] <armin76> xptcinvoke_unsupported.cpp
[10:43] <armin76> g++-4.2 -o xptcinvoke_unsupported.o -c -fv
[10:43] <armin76> that's rather interesting
[10:44] <armin76> anyway
[10:44] <armin76> 3.0 doesn't build :P
[10:47] <asac> yeah ... but its supported in unsupported :)
[10:47] <asac> and debian has again accumulated cruft ;)
[10:47] <asac> thats good news :)
[10:48] <armin76> then why it fails to build? :P
[10:49] <asac> well ... in 2.0 it doesn't ... which means that debian iceweasel ships cruft patches ... so for 3.0 its most likely the same as for the others ... nobody adapted the parisc backend
[10:50] <armin76> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~b1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1/+build/456922
[10:50] <armin76> fail!
[10:50] <armin76> err, wait
[10:50] <armin76> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9~a8-0ubuntu2/+build/404055
[10:51] <armin76> make[9]: Entering directory `/build/buildd/xulrunner-1.9-1.9~a8/mozilla/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix'
[10:51] <armin76> ../../../../../../config/rules.mk:290: *** XPTCall not implemented on this platform!.  Stop.
[10:51] <armin76> plop!
[10:55] <armin76> asac: okay, let's start again
[10:55] <armin76> debian in 2.0 uses the patch i mention
[10:55] <armin76> http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=iceweasel;ver=2.0.0.10-2;arch=hppa;stamp=1196227375
[10:55] <armin76> make[8]: Entering directory `/build/buildd/iceweasel-2.0.0.10/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix'
[10:55] <armin76> xptcinvoke_pa32.cpp
[10:56] <armin76> but in ubuntu you don't
[10:56] <asac> armin76: why do you care for a patch that isn't needed?
[10:56] <armin76> you sure it works on hppa? :P
[10:57] <asac> armin76: look at how debian develops the package ... eric doesn't have a patch system so its likely that he just missed this patch
[10:57] <asac> armin76: not sure
[10:57] <asac> just know that it builds :)=
[10:57] <armin76> rofl
[10:57]  * armin76 kicks asac 
[10:57] <armin76> that's like when i found that qt-4.3 didn't work on alpha :P
[11:00] <armin76> it didn't work but debian was shipping it, whee
[11:02] <armin76> and believe me that compiling with unsupported it won't work
[11:02] <asac> hehe
[11:02] <armin76> i think...not sure
[11:02] <asac> armin76: please test :)
[11:03] <asac> if you have anyone who can test
[11:03] <armin76> if you want the patch to make hppa build with 3.0, you can have it
[11:05] <armin76> so is there a way to install ubuntu on hppa?
[11:09] <asac> armin76: why not submit the hppa patch upstreaM?
[11:09]  * armin76 shoots asac 
[11:10] <armin76> do you read what i say? :P
[11:10] <asac> i try :)
[11:10] <armin76> mozilla bug  287150
[11:10] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 287150 in XPCOM "parisc-linux support for xpcom" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287150
[11:11] <armin76> read my last comment
[11:11] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287150#c19
[11:11] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 287150 in XPCOM "parisc-linux support for xpcom" [Major,New]
[11:11] <asac> fix that and we can land
[11:11] <armin76> i know
[11:12] <asac> i'll wait for the patch to end up in our builds :)
[11:13] <armin76> isn't GNU_CC, instead of GNU_CXX?
[11:19] <asac> yeah ... most likely
[11:21] <armin76> i'll use GNU_CXX, so i can't be blamed :P
[11:21] <armin76> anyway it's the same...
[11:21] <asac> haha
[11:25] <armin76> # The default is this buildable, but non-functioning code.
[11:25] <armin76> asac: see?
[11:26] <asac> yeah
[11:26] <asac> thats a great invention :)
[11:26] <armin76> unsupported == buildable, not workable
[11:26] <asac> why would that kind of crap make sense?
[11:30] <asac> i mean it should faikl to build if it knows that it will fail to run
[11:30] <asac> otherwise i could use scripting languages :)
[11:31] <armin76> i think i know why firefox-2.0 doesn't work on hppa with gentoo
[11:31] <armin76> probably it's building with unsupported
[11:32] <armin76> since i added the OS_TEST hack
[11:44] <asac> yeah ... might be
[11:45] <armin76> we'll see in an hour and a half
[11:45] <armin76> Wed Nov 14 20:10:38 2007 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.9
[11:45] <armin76>        merge time: 1 hour, 56 minutes and 4 seconds.
[11:45] <armin76> or more
[12:32] <asac> Ubulette: ok i think we should rename the pkgconfig files :)
[13:35] <armin76> still not finished...
[13:43] <armin76> asac: i think it builds because stuff build against it works fine
[13:46] <armin76> >>> Source compiled.
[13:47] <armin76> now it won't work :P
[13:50] <armin76> YAYYY
[14:55] <bluekuja> armin76, did you decide to migrate at the end?
[14:56] <bluekuja> armin76, did you stop following gentoo-p2p?
[14:57] <armin76> migrate to what?
[14:59] <bluekuja> armin76, to ubuntu :)
[14:59] <bluekuja> armin76, and anyway are you working on ff3 for gentoo?
[15:00] <armin76> hahaha
[15:00] <armin76> migrate me? when i said that? :D
[15:00] <bluekuja> ehehhe :)
[15:00] <armin76> and, yes, i'm working on it
[15:00] <bluekuja> it's not a good excuse to say you work only on those archs
[15:00] <bluekuja> so you don't want to migrate
[15:00] <armin76> but it's true
[15:00] <bluekuja> :D
[15:01] <bluekuja> armin76, when Ubuntu will adopt them as well
[15:01] <bluekuja> you'll have to change
[15:01] <bluekuja> :)
[15:02] <armin76> i don't think so, ubuntu and debian are too boring
[15:02] <bluekuja>  /kick armin76
[15:02] <bluekuja> ahaha :)
[15:05] <bluekuja> armin76, anyway why do you think that?
[15:05] <armin76> because everything is automatic
[15:05] <armin76> it builds -> ship it
[15:06] <bluekuja> yes, that's a great thing
[15:06] <armin76> it's not
[15:06] <bluekuja> we have too many packages to lose time publishing them manually
[15:06] <armin76> because that means it's not been tested
[15:06] <bluekuja> ?
[15:07] <bluekuja> a package alwais get tested
[15:07] <bluekuja> before getting uploaded
[15:07] <armin76> yeah, like qt? :D
[15:07] <bluekuja> that's obvious
[15:07] <bluekuja> what happened to qt?
[15:07] <bluekuja> I don't follow that package
[15:07] <armin76> qt 4.3 didn't work on alpha
[15:07] <armin76> and it was on sid
[15:08] <armin76> it compiled but apps didn't work
[15:08] <bluekuja> I guess not everyone got an alpha syste
[15:08] <bluekuja> *system
[15:08] <bluekuja> to test it
[15:09] <armin76> i believe qt is a very important package
[15:09] <asac> ubotu: do you have a stock icon screenshot for me? (publishable)
[15:09] <asac> hmm isn't here :)
[15:09] <bluekuja> asac, lol
[15:10] <bluekuja> asac, would be nice to say
[15:10] <armin76> you asking a bot?
[15:10] <bluekuja> !ubotu find me something
[15:10] <ubotu> Found: abiword-gnome, abiword-plugins-gnome, alacarte, app-install-data-commercial, bluez-gnome (and 1535 others)
[15:10] <bluekuja> and pooof
[15:11] <bluekuja> oh :D
[15:14] <asac> bluekuja: irssi extended ub<TAB> to that :)
[15:14] <bluekuja> lol
[15:14] <bluekuja> really?
[15:14] <asac> yes
[15:14] <asac> wnated to ask the lette
[15:14] <asac> he is not here though ;)
[15:15] <bluekuja> asac, is irssi cool?
[15:16] <asac> i usually don't talk about my productino application like that :) ... i can get my job done ;)
[15:16] <asac> that is: stay online forever running in a screen :)
[15:17] <bluekuja> yeah, but I like xchat more
[15:17] <bluekuja> irssi it's not really user-friendly
[15:18] <asac> user-friendly? in which way?
[15:19] <bluekuja> asac, irssi runs on a terminal right?
[15:19] <bluekuja> asac, it works using commands?
[15:19] <bluekuja> e.g if you need to change to a channel you have to write a certain command to move there
[15:20] <asac> bluekuja: if you want to join you say /join #channel
[15:20] <asac> but then you have multiple windows open
[15:20] <asac> i switch between them using ctrl-n (next) and ctrl-p (previous)
[15:20] <asac> or directly by /window windownumber
[15:20] <bluekuja> yes, that's what I don't like
[15:20] <bluekuja> I prefer moving with my mouse
[15:20] <bluekuja> :)
[15:20] <asac> thats lame :)
[15:20] <bluekuja> ahaha :D
[15:21] <bluekuja> I know, but you know...I'm lazy
[15:21] <bluekuja> :)
[15:22] <bluekuja> or maybe I've used xchat since the beginning
[15:22] <asac> lazy for me is: not moving your hands from mouse to keyboard
[15:22] <asac> and vv
[15:22] <bluekuja> so didnt want to change
[15:22] <bluekuja> asac, lol...a question then: do you have a mouse?
[15:23] <bluekuja> or do you work *only* with your keyboard
[15:23] <asac> i have two mouse :) left + right
[15:23] <bluekuja> lol
[15:23] <asac> but stick to keyboard to prevent pain in back
[15:23] <asac> its really hard for your body switching your hand position a hundred times a day for year
[15:23] <bluekuja> true
[15:23] <bluekuja> :)
[15:25] <bluekuja> asac, any news for your key?
[15:25] <bluekuja> asac, anyway both packages got uploaded
[15:25] <bluekuja> :)
[15:26] <asac> nope ... i have to resign from debian i guess :)
[15:27] <bluekuja> asac, are you sure about that?
[15:27] <bluekuja> asac, introducing a new key won't fix the issue?
[15:27] <asac> hehe ... no idea :)
[15:27] <asac> i won't resign
[15:27] <asac> rather wait till thrown out :-D
[15:27] <bluekuja> :D
[15:27] <bluekuja> after your good performance with the NM
[15:28] <bluekuja> they are angry with you
[15:28] <bluekuja> eheheh
[15:32] <bluekuja> asac, maybe myon got upset and made your key expiring
[15:32] <bluekuja> with a bit of magic powers
[15:32] <bluekuja> ;)
[15:53] <asac> bluekuja: hmm ... i doubt it ;)
[15:53] <bluekuja> :)
[15:53] <bluekuja> asac, a question
[15:54] <bluekuja> asac, does Debian Bug #452453 worth an upload just for that?
[15:54] <ubotu> Debian bug 452453 in gnome-btdownload "gnome-btdownload: name in desktop file looks awkward" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/452453
[15:55] <asac> bluekuja: i would keep these bugs sitting for a while
[15:55] <bluekuja> ok
[15:55] <asac> eventually uploading if nothing else occurs
[15:56] <asac> e.g. no upstream upload, no serious other bug
[15:56] <asac> and of course before release
[15:56] <asac> but i think its still a long time to go
[15:56] <bluekuja> yep
[15:56] <bluekuja> agreed
[15:57] <bluekuja> will set it on pending
[15:57] <asac> yes
[15:57] <bluekuja> a new release is out
[15:57] <bluekuja> need to check it
[16:15] <bluekuja> asac, great
[16:16] <bluekuja> asac, a new release it out (0.0.30)
[16:16] <bluekuja> gonna package that
[16:17] <asac> yep
[16:17] <bluekuja> so we can fix that small bug as well
[16:18] <bluekuja> I'm trying to understand *why*
[16:18] <bluekuja> upstream keeps shipping a debian dir
[16:18] <bluekuja> I mailed him twice
[16:18] <bluekuja> damn
[17:53] <cwong1> asac: ping
[17:56] <asac> be back in 1h  or so
[17:57] <cwong1> asac: ok