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evil_techok i installed compiz, compiz --replace doesnt work and i have no window manager00:06
evil_tech%^$@%^#$%00:06
evil_techknew there was a reason i didnt mess around with compiz anymore00:07
evil_techblarg00:12
evil_techso i get the following message when trying to start compiz via compiz --replace00:14
evil_techany ideas?00:17
milesWhat video card do you have?00:36
evil_techradeon x800 gt00:36
milesand what was the error message?00:37
evil_techdont remember00:37
evil_techi got rid of compiz00:37
evil_techyou have any luck?00:39
milesNo... gotta fix the direct rendering problem first I guess00:40
milesbtw I don't even have glxgears for testing, know in which pakage it is?00:40
miles(/ is 91% full so far)00:41
evil_techi dont even know what that is00:41
evil_techwell that is nifty00:42
evil_tech8945 frames a second00:43
evil_tech:)00:43
milesHow much place does Xubuntu take on install?00:49
miles… 1.5Gb00:50
milesdarn00:50
evil_techwell mine is pretty much stock with the exception of wine. and its eating 3.1gb00:50
evil_techoops wrong drive00:50
evil_tech1.6gb00:50
evil_techi should get rid of my swap00:52
evil_techi never touch it00:52
milesMaybe I should try a full Fluxbuntu install… I'm wondering if Compiz works on it00:56
milesor grab a decent SD card00:58
evil_techdunno00:58
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slimjimflimdoes anyone know if there's a way to resize a windows from the top?01:33
slimjimflimwhat's up barbecue01:38
slimjimflimwhy are you trying to send me mirc.ini?01:39
slimjimflimdo you think i'm stupid?01:39
slimjimflimare you questioning my authoritaa01:39
slimjimflim?01:40
somerville32lol01:41
somerville32No barbecue here.01:41
Grav3Mindhey guys02:15
Grav3Mindis installing and configuring compiz the same for Xubuntu as it is ubuntu02:16
Grav3Mindor enabling rather02:16
Grav3Mindhey guys02:20
Grav3Mindlost connection02:20
Grav3Mindi had asked about enabling compiz02:20
Grav3Mindis it the same as on ubuntu02:20
Grav3Mindcause i know with kubuntu its different02:20
somerville32Grav3Mind, Pretty much the same02:22
Grav3Mindhttp://svn.xgl-coffee.org/xgl-coffee/trunk/startxgl02:34
Grav3Mindcan anyone see anything on that page02:34
Grav3Mindi need the  xgl-startup-script for Xfce session02:35
Grav3Mindbut everytime i click the link its blank02:35
Grav3Mindplease someone help!02:38
Grav3Mindim stuf here and i need help!02:38
Grav3Mind*stuck02:38
* somerville32 has no idea.02:38
Grav3Mindcrap02:40
crimsunthat site looks like ad^Wspamware.02:43
crimsunat least that's what NoScript leads me to believe.02:43
Grav3Mindcan anyone help me find this then02:45
Grav3Mind xgl-startup-script for Xfce session02:45
Grav3Mindcause i need it to use compiz with my xubuntu-desktop install02:45
crimsunyou could probably do it by han.02:47
crimsunhand*02:47
Grav3Mindi have no idea what im doing though02:47
Grav3Mindim totally new to all of this02:47
Grav3Mindhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20387702:48
Grav3Mindim using this tutorial02:48
crimsunUF is blocked locally.02:48
Grav3Mindabout 8 posts down02:48
Grav3Mind?02:48
Grav3Mindim so  close to bein done with this install....but i dont know what to do02:49
Grav3Mind@_@02:49
Grav3Mindand why are the forums blocked?02:50
crimsunGrav3Mind: ask my employer, not me.02:59
crimsun(VPNs are fun.)03:00
Sleepwalkhey you guys. I need to start Pidgin when this thing boots. (its my friends box and he won't open pidgin)  I'm using 7.10 xubuntu03:36
SleepwalkAny ideas?03:36
somerville32Don't close it before you log out and save your session03:37
somerville32Will start automatically next time03:37
Sleepwalkyea he won't do that03:37
Sleepwalktrust. I've tried teaching03:37
SleepwalkI know bash03:37
Sleepwalkbut03:37
SleepwalkI don't know what file to edit03:37
somerville32Applications > Settings > Autostart03:37
Sleepwalkbut I know a lot fo shell scripting03:37
Sleepwalkoh sweet!03:38
Sleepwalkthanks!03:38
somerville32Sleepwalk, np03:39
Sleepwalkshould I type bash /usr/bin/pidgin for command?03:39
somerville32no03:39
somerville32just /usr/bin/pidgin03:39
Sleepwalkor just "pidgin"03:39
somerville32or maybe just pidgin03:39
Sleepwalkk03:39
somerville32Sleepwalk, Feel free to hang around btw :]03:39
Sleepwalkwell I did which pidgin03:39
Sleepwalkand it said /usr/binpidgin03:39
Sleepwalkso I'll go with that./ thanks03:39
marist1!gtk04:05
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI04:05
marist1!gtk-devel04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk-devel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:05
marist1!gtk+-devel04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk+-devel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:05
marist1uh04:05
somerville32!investigate04:05
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.04:05
marist1good04:06
marist1I whant to code with GTK, what pakacje I have to install to do it (I need gtk-headers, etc)04:36
marist1package*04:36
marist1sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev - the right answer :)05:06
annihiluscan someone tell me how to add programs to startup in xubuntu05:09
annihilussuch as pidgin in my case05:09
marist1Save session with started pidgin05:10
marist1After strartup is will strats automatically... it's easiest way05:10
annihilusare you referring to when you log out and it has the checkbox to save session05:10
marist1yes05:11
annihilussry im familiar with gnome, this is a first run in xfce05:11
annihilusokay ill give that a try, thanks05:11
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Kahurangiwhen i try to install something via the add/remove programs menu, it says "the list of applications is not available", and still doesn't work when i refresh. I'm pretty sure the update manager isnt working either.06:05
Kahurangiwhen i click 'check' in update manager, it says downloading file 6/6 then says checking for updates, then says my system is up to date but it's not06:07
slimjimflimanyone know how to resize a window from the top?06:59
slimjimflimnm, got it07:01
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emdashi just want to say this: ubuntu's sleep scripts take way too long to sleep my thinkpad08:14
gerroemdash: hmm might want to download laptop tools and have a go and some custom settings08:39
CyberMadthis is my 1st time use nano (text editor), how to delete all lines.. instead do backspace ?? because there is no gedit.. and there is problem with sources.list09:39
whykinghi11:28
whykingI'm using compiz and 7.10. My problem is that all openoffice tools start without window "decoration", as if they were in full screen (which they are not).. just those apps, all others run fine.. what could be the cause?11:29
CyberMadwhat is the best text editor for xubuntu ?11:38
whykingCyberMad, vim ;-)11:39
totalwormagemousepad11:39
whykingor gvim if you like11:39
totalwormageor nano11:39
totalwormage:P11:39
totalwormagemousepad is a graphical text editor, vim or nano or the like are textbased editors11:40
whykinggvim is graphical too11:41
whykingCyberMad, if you want sth easy to use sth like mousepad is fine and gets you going fast.. if you plan on doing lots of editing (e.g. coding) consider learning to use (g)vim or (x)emacs11:41
CyberMadi see.. i thought mouse pad is not text editor at 1st time..11:42
CyberMadbecause i just know gedit hehe11:42
CyberMadthanks a lot11:42
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chimphey is there a comand to check if all the system files and so forth are intact?15:29
TheSheepchimp: no15:29
chimpk15:29
totalwormagedon't panic!15:29
TheSheepchimp: there are various solutions for monitoring such thingsd15:29
TheSheepchimp: but I'm not sure if any is recommended for ubuntu15:30
chimpI have problems at the minute from a fresh install and i cant really explain them15:30
chimpErm, well first signs were when it is starting up, the load screen was for a while stopping about 5/6ths of the way through, then showing the services starting, and when it got to unix printing service cupsd it would get stuck15:31
chimpahh it just did it again there now15:31
chimpthat exact error, sometimes it happens sometimes it doesnt15:31
chimpnot even an error really, just it stops at that point15:31
gerroI tried doing some bittorrent file with deluge and after turning it off because it wasn't working, I am now getting dosed all over port 6881 udp, internet connection is crawling.... like slower than dial up crawl16:33
gerroedited firewall to turn it off but things keep coming... can I disable udp completely?16:34
PowerJChow much space does an xubuntu install take up?16:51
somerville32You should have atleast 4GB16:57
somerville32It might work with less but you'll have literally no room16:57
PowerJCi want to dual boot it with windows 98, with a 4gb hard disc, so can it fit into 2gb?16:57
somerville32No, I don't think so16:58
somerville32You will not have a very enjoyable experience with only 2GB16:58
PowerJCwhat takes up all the space?16:58
darrendI have a cron job in /etc/cron.hourly that fails when cron executes it ("Exec Bad Format" or similar message).  If I execute it manually, it runs fine.  Any ideas?17:04
somerville32darrend, Please pastebin the cron file :]17:08
darrendsomerville32: http://pastebin.com/d13dc62ab17:10
somerville32darrend, There must be some sort of format that they must adhere to. Try asking in #ubuntu-server17:13
darrendok, thx17:14
PowerJCxubuntu in 2gb of space, is it possible?18:30
scrapbunnyi am thinking of switching to xubuntu to help with speed on thin clients. anyone here using xubuntu with ltsp?18:32
somerville32scrapbunny, No but I know of people18:35
darrendsomerville32: still around?19:44
zoredachedarrend: ? are you still having problems with your cron script?19:49
darrendno, I fixed it.  Did you see the stupid error?19:57
zoredachesoemthing about cannot exec19:58
darrendno, I mean my stupid error in the script19:58
dmoundgreetings...  I was hoping someone here might be able to help me get the "terminal" working in the accessories menu in 7.1020:28
dmoundI've installed xubuntu 7.10 on 3 machines now, and on each one, when I click the "terminal" program in the accessories menu I get logged out of my xfce session.20:29
somerville32dmound, Known bug :)20:30
dmoundoh...  didn't find it it list.  good to know its being worked on though.20:31
* somerville32 nods.20:32
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Ahmuckdoes xubuntu suppport terminal on widescreens?  xubuntu keeps logging me off when i try to use the terminal21:39
zoredacheapparently that is a common bug Ahmuck21:39
evil_techyeah21:39
evil_techits not because of the widescreen21:40
evil_techprobably^21:40
Ahmuckwhy does moving a window cause the cpu to go through the roof in xubuntu?22:49
Ahmuckat 100%22:49
Ahmuckwhat is gam_server?22:51
zoredacheAhmuck: that would probably indicate you don't have correct video driver and vesa server got selected22:54
Ahmuckgam server or the 100% from a moving window?22:55
zoredache100% from moving the window22:55
zoredacheas for gam_server 'apt-cache show gamin' for details22:56
Ahmuckgamin ... hrm22:58
Ahmuckok, well, so correct video driver, i assume is the video card22:58
Ahmuckdoes xubuntu have a hardware selection tool?  similar to add/remove hardware, etc.22:58
somerville32Hey Everyone! Is there anyone here who would be interested in help testing out the latest Alpha for Xubuntu 8.04? :)23:04
evil_techhow would i do that?23:04
evil_techjust install run and find whats broke?23:04
somerville32evil_tech, https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/All23:05
somerville32https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Xubuntu <-- For Xubuntu only23:05
evil_techdownloading23:08
HeadLong87632at last, im here23:08
evil_techwas it a long tortuous process?23:09
HeadLong87632indeed it was23:09
HeadLong87632im letting my blood pressure normalize23:09
HeadLong87632and thinking of my quiet place.23:09
evil_tech:)23:09
evil_techdont forget your power animal23:10
HeadLong87632is this the xubuntu for new ppl help channel?23:10
HeadLong87632its a penguin.  Whats yours?23:10
evil_techthis is indeed the help channel23:10
Ahmuckyes23:11
evil_techsuper mario 1up mushroom23:11
HeadLong87632heh23:11
Ahmuckmad bull for me23:11
HeadLong87632well this is my first linux install.  Im trying to put xubuntu on a laptop that has XP Pro on it.23:11
Ahmuckis there a way to probe lspci without a terminal?23:11
HeadLong87632I was thinking there would be some option somewhere to format and install the distro but I didnt see one.23:12
HeadLong87632and its running from CD.23:12
evil_techAhmuck: not that I am aware of23:12
Ahmuckterminal keeps crashing on me23:12
evil_techwhat about F2 and run xterm23:12
evil_techALT + F223:13
somerville32HeadLong87632, Click "install" on the desktop if you're running the live cd23:14
HeadLong87632ok.23:14
HeadLong87632gotta wait for it to stop accessing.  clicked on File System just a second ago.23:14
HeadLong87632hmmm the CD just keeps going and going23:16
somerville32evil_tech, No one else has done tests yet. IT would be super cool if Xubuntu was the first time to report in on their disks <g>23:16
HeadLong87632wait.  I did that earlier.  Brought up a program with vertical windows.  The cursor stopped responding.23:17
evil_tech24:29 to go23:17
evil_tech:)23:17
Ahmuckheh, i could test.  piii 533mhz 256mb ram, and mysterious video card23:17
somerville32Ahmuck, Awesome. Welcome aboard! :)23:17
Ahmuckbtw, i have a wide screen monitor, is this part of my problem with my video resolution?23:17
evil_techwhats your resolution?23:18
HeadLong87632pIII 750 mhz,  128mb RAM.23:19
HeadLong87632: /23:19
evil_techHeadlong87632:ive installed xubuntu on less than half that processor and had a perfectly functional environment23:20
Ahmuckhrm, i forget, its something like 1580x120023:20
Ahmuckevil_tech: really?  128mb a ram is really pushing it.23:21
Ahmuckfor me it was23:21
evil_techthe ram was the same or more23:21
evil_techprocessor was a 366 PII23:21
somerville32192mb is the pushing it :P23:21
Ahmucki've got it running on 533mhz celeaon with 25623:21
HeadLong87632will this distro function with 128?23:22
Ahmuckmb ram23:22
evil_techyes but not exactly speedy23:22
AhmuckHeadLong87632: yes, i've used it at that23:22
HeadLong87632mmm.  what distro could give me web browsing with 128?23:22
evil_techAhmuck: sure the resolution isnt supposed to be 1920x160023:22
somerville32HeadLong87632, Damn Small Linux23:22
evil_techFluxbuntu23:23
HeadLong87632DS Linux was my 2nd choice.  I'll give it a shot.23:23
HeadLong87632Fluxbuntu?23:23
Ahmuckevil_tech: nope, but the thing is, i'm running at 1024x768 because no other resolution was listed23:23
AhmuckHeadLong87632: i tried fluxbuntu, but with both systems, fluxbuntu failed to boot from cdrom23:23
evil_techwell its still an RC23:24
Ahmucki've tried it it virtual, and it's very basic23:24
evil_techdid you inform JoeJaxx in #fluxbuntu23:24
Ahmucker, in virtual23:24
evil_techor anyone in #fluxbuntu for that matter23:24
Ahmuckheh, i'm banned from fluxubuntu23:24
evil_techlol23:24
totalwormagelol23:24
evil_techAhmuck: have you tried reconfiguring X23:24
HeadLong87632#join fluxbuntu23:24
HeadLong87632woa.  Noob stealth deactivated!23:25
Ahmuck /join fluxbuntu23:25
HeadLong87632ah thanks.23:25
Ahmuckevil_tech: nope23:25
evil_techtry that from either xterm or from a tty23:25
evil_techsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:26
evil_techor you could just look at xorg.conf see if it lists you resolution there then you could do sudo xrandr -s "res x res"23:27
Ahmuckok, i'v got yakuake installed now, so i ought to be good to go23:27
Ahmuckevil_tech: xserver-xorg?23:32
evil_tech10:5023:32
Ahmuckdoes xubuntu have something similar to yakuake?23:32
evil_techhave no clue what yakuake is23:32
nantaxhello, how can I map the win key so that it will behave like the windows start menu key?23:36
nantaxI have tried making a short cut from the keyboard preferences and setting xfce4-popup-menu and pressed the win key23:37
nantaxbut the shortcut that appears is SUPER+SUPER_L23:37
kirikaim brainfarting right now and i need to change the swap partition to 512 instead of 1000. i mistakenly made it 1000 and i believe it may be slowing me down23:43
kirikaif i run cfdisk i not quite sure what to input for my swap partition23:44
nantaxi think this channel is dead23:45
nantaxlol23:45
kirikayea mee too it seems to be dead whenever i come here23:45
nantaxbtw do you know how to reconfigure the keyboard23:46
nantaxso that you can select another layout23:46
kirikahave you tried the ubuntu dapper page i believe it has a section devoted to it23:46
nantaxthe one like when you are still installing xubuntu fresh23:46
kirikado you need another language setup23:47
nantaxno23:47
nantaxjust another layout23:47
nantaxbecause when i press win key to setup the keyboard, it shows as super+super+L23:48
HeadLong87632installing fluxbuntu23:49
kirikahttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper this has a small guide to remapping keys23:50
kirikait may help if its what yo need23:50
nantaxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_keys23:50
nantaxhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaneInstallerKeyboard23:50
nantaxim heading here at the moment23:50
HeadLong87632the #fluxbuntu channel is dead quiet.23:51
kirikaHeadLong87632, what do you need23:51
kirikai havent used fluxbox in a long time23:51
HeadLong87632nothing yet.  the installation is going ok.23:51
nantaxkirika how do you setup the screen saver in xubuntu23:51
kirikaok cool i hope it is sucessful23:51
HeadLong87632thank you for offering.23:51
nantaxi have enabled the restricted driver and the screensaver animation is now smooth23:52
nantaxbut it never shows up, because the monitor sleeps when the pc is idle23:52
kirikamine sleeps as well ive never used screensavers23:52
somerville32I use screensaver23:52
somerville32Mine locks on idle23:52
HeadLong87632in regards to partitioning,  what is LVM?23:53
kirikanantax, have you looked in applications -> screensaver settings23:53
somerville32kirika, Applications -> Settings -> Screensaver settings23:54
kirikalogical volume management???23:54
zoredacheHeadLong87632: lvm is a dismanagement tool that lets you partition the drives in different ways23:54
kirikasomerville32, yea23:54
zoredacheit also lets you do snapshots and many other things23:54
zoredachesomerville32: there seems to be a bug related screensavers on clean installs23:55
HeadLong87632ah. advanced stuff.23:55
zoredacheIt seems the gnome-screensaver package isn't installed by default23:55
zoredacheHeadLong87632: yes advanced stuff, lets see it is also frequently used if you want to encrypt your drives and lots of other neat things that you might not care about unless you are running a server23:56
nantaxso how do we fix our default-buggy-screensaver????23:57
nantaxi mean, how do we showcase our xubuntu goodness at the office when we cant even see the cool screensaver?23:57
zoredacheInstall gnome-screensaver23:57
nantaxi mean previewing it and leaving the pc would work heheh, but its not safe since your not logged out23:58
nantaxwhen i go to synaptic, i get errors23:58
nantaxlet me check again23:58
nantaxCould not download all repository indexes23:58
nantaxThe repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.23:58
nantaxhttp://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)23:59
nantaxhttp://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)23:59
nantaxhttp://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)23:59
nantaxi was trying to install icewm yesterday but i cannot see it in synaptic23:59
zoredacheafter gnome-screensaver is installed create an auto-start setting for 'gnome-screensaver'23:59

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