[00:06] <evil_tech> ok i installed compiz, compiz --replace doesnt work and i have no window manager
[00:06] <evil_tech> %^$@%^#$%
[00:07] <evil_tech> knew there was a reason i didnt mess around with compiz anymore
[00:12] <evil_tech> blarg
[00:14] <evil_tech> so i get the following message when trying to start compiz via compiz --replace
[00:17] <evil_tech> any ideas?
[00:36] <miles> What video card do you have?
[00:36] <evil_tech> radeon x800 gt
[00:37] <miles> and what was the error message?
[00:37] <evil_tech> dont remember
[00:37] <evil_tech> i got rid of compiz
[00:39] <evil_tech> you have any luck?
[00:40] <miles> No... gotta fix the direct rendering problem first I guess
[00:40] <miles> btw I don't even have glxgears for testing, know in which pakage it is?
[00:41] <miles> (/ is 91% full so far)
[00:41] <evil_tech> i dont even know what that is
[00:42] <evil_tech> well that is nifty
[00:43] <evil_tech> 8945 frames a second
[00:43] <evil_tech> :)
[00:49] <miles> How much place does Xubuntu take on install?
[00:50] <miles> … 1.5Gb
[00:50] <miles> darn
[00:50] <evil_tech> well mine is pretty much stock with the exception of wine. and its eating 3.1gb
[00:50] <evil_tech> oops wrong drive
[00:50] <evil_tech> 1.6gb
[00:52] <evil_tech> i should get rid of my swap
[00:52] <evil_tech> i never touch it
[00:56] <miles> Maybe I should try a full Fluxbuntu install… I'm wondering if Compiz works on it
[00:58] <miles> or grab a decent SD card
[00:58] <evil_tech> dunno
[01:33] <slimjimflim> does anyone know if there's a way to resize a windows from the top?
[01:38] <slimjimflim> what's up barbecue
[01:39] <slimjimflim> why are you trying to send me mirc.ini?
[01:39] <slimjimflim> do you think i'm stupid?
[01:39] <slimjimflim> are you questioning my authoritaa
[01:40] <slimjimflim> ?
[01:41] <somerville32> lol
[01:41] <somerville32> No barbecue here.
[02:15] <Grav3Mind> hey guys
[02:16] <Grav3Mind> is installing and configuring compiz the same for Xubuntu as it is ubuntu
[02:16] <Grav3Mind> or enabling rather
[02:20] <Grav3Mind> hey guys
[02:20] <Grav3Mind> lost connection
[02:20] <Grav3Mind> i had asked about enabling compiz
[02:20] <Grav3Mind> is it the same as on ubuntu
[02:20] <Grav3Mind> cause i know with kubuntu its different
[02:22] <somerville32> Grav3Mind, Pretty much the same
[02:34] <Grav3Mind> http://svn.xgl-coffee.org/xgl-coffee/trunk/startxgl
[02:34] <Grav3Mind> can anyone see anything on that page
[02:35] <Grav3Mind> i need the  xgl-startup-script for Xfce session
[02:35] <Grav3Mind> but everytime i click the link its blank
[02:38] <Grav3Mind> please someone help!
[02:38] <Grav3Mind> im stuf here and i need help!
[02:38] <Grav3Mind> *stuck
[02:38]  * somerville32 has no idea.
[02:40] <Grav3Mind> crap
[02:43] <crimsun> that site looks like ad^Wspamware.
[02:43] <crimsun> at least that's what NoScript leads me to believe.
[02:45] <Grav3Mind> can anyone help me find this then
[02:45] <Grav3Mind>  xgl-startup-script for Xfce session
[02:45] <Grav3Mind> cause i need it to use compiz with my xubuntu-desktop install
[02:47] <crimsun> you could probably do it by han.
[02:47] <crimsun> hand*
[02:47] <Grav3Mind> i have no idea what im doing though
[02:47] <Grav3Mind> im totally new to all of this
[02:48] <Grav3Mind> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203877
[02:48] <Grav3Mind> im using this tutorial
[02:48] <crimsun> UF is blocked locally.
[02:48] <Grav3Mind> about 8 posts down
[02:48] <Grav3Mind> ?
[02:49] <Grav3Mind> im so  close to bein done with this install....but i dont know what to do
[02:49] <Grav3Mind> @_@
[02:50] <Grav3Mind> and why are the forums blocked?
[02:59] <crimsun> Grav3Mind: ask my employer, not me.
[03:00] <crimsun> (VPNs are fun.)
[03:36] <Sleepwalk> hey you guys. I need to start Pidgin when this thing boots. (its my friends box and he won't open pidgin)  I'm using 7.10 xubuntu
[03:36] <Sleepwalk> Any ideas?
[03:37] <somerville32> Don't close it before you log out and save your session
[03:37] <somerville32> Will start automatically next time
[03:37] <Sleepwalk> yea he won't do that
[03:37] <Sleepwalk> trust. I've tried teaching
[03:37] <Sleepwalk> I know bash
[03:37] <Sleepwalk> but
[03:37] <Sleepwalk> I don't know what file to edit
[03:37] <somerville32> Applications > Settings > Autostart
[03:37] <Sleepwalk> but I know a lot fo shell scripting
[03:38] <Sleepwalk> oh sweet!
[03:38] <Sleepwalk> thanks!
[03:39] <somerville32> Sleepwalk, np
[03:39] <Sleepwalk> should I type bash /usr/bin/pidgin for command?
[03:39] <somerville32> no
[03:39] <somerville32> just /usr/bin/pidgin
[03:39] <Sleepwalk> or just "pidgin"
[03:39] <somerville32> or maybe just pidgin
[03:39] <Sleepwalk> k
[03:39] <somerville32> Sleepwalk, Feel free to hang around btw :]
[03:39] <Sleepwalk> well I did which pidgin
[03:39] <Sleepwalk> and it said /usr/binpidgin
[03:39] <Sleepwalk> so I'll go with that./ thanks
[04:05] <marist1> !gtk
[04:05] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:05] <marist1> !gtk-devel
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk-devel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <marist1> !gtk+-devel
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk+-devel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <marist1> uh
[04:05] <somerville32> !investigate
[04:05] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:06] <marist1> good
[04:36] <marist1> I whant to code with GTK, what pakacje I have to install to do it (I need gtk-headers, etc)
[04:36] <marist1> package*
[05:06] <marist1> sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev - the right answer :)
[05:09] <annihilus> can someone tell me how to add programs to startup in xubuntu
[05:09] <annihilus> such as pidgin in my case
[05:10] <marist1> Save session with started pidgin
[05:10] <marist1> After strartup is will strats automatically... it's easiest way
[05:10] <annihilus> are you referring to when you log out and it has the checkbox to save session
[05:11] <marist1> yes
[05:11] <annihilus> sry im familiar with gnome, this is a first run in xfce
[05:11] <annihilus> okay ill give that a try, thanks
[06:05] <Kahurangi> when i try to install something via the add/remove programs menu, it says "the list of applications is not available", and still doesn't work when i refresh. I'm pretty sure the update manager isnt working either.
[06:07] <Kahurangi> when i click 'check' in update manager, it says downloading file 6/6 then says checking for updates, then says my system is up to date but it's not
[06:59] <slimjimflim> anyone know how to resize a window from the top?
[07:01] <slimjimflim> nm, got it
[08:14] <emdash> i just want to say this: ubuntu's sleep scripts take way too long to sleep my thinkpad
[08:39] <gerro> emdash: hmm might want to download laptop tools and have a go and some custom settings
[09:39] <CyberMad> this is my 1st time use nano (text editor), how to delete all lines.. instead do backspace ?? because there is no gedit.. and there is problem with sources.list
[11:28] <whyking> hi
[11:29] <whyking> I'm using compiz and 7.10. My problem is that all openoffice tools start without window "decoration", as if they were in full screen (which they are not).. just those apps, all others run fine.. what could be the cause?
[11:38] <CyberMad> what is the best text editor for xubuntu ?
[11:39] <whyking> CyberMad, vim ;-)
[11:39] <totalwormage> mousepad
[11:39] <whyking> or gvim if you like
[11:39] <totalwormage> or nano
[11:39] <totalwormage> :P
[11:40] <totalwormage> mousepad is a graphical text editor, vim or nano or the like are textbased editors
[11:41] <whyking> gvim is graphical too
[11:41] <whyking> CyberMad, if you want sth easy to use sth like mousepad is fine and gets you going fast.. if you plan on doing lots of editing (e.g. coding) consider learning to use (g)vim or (x)emacs
[11:42] <CyberMad> i see.. i thought mouse pad is not text editor at 1st time..
[11:42] <CyberMad> because i just know gedit hehe
[11:42] <CyberMad> thanks a lot
[15:29] <chimp> hey is there a comand to check if all the system files and so forth are intact?
[15:29] <TheSheep> chimp: no
[15:29] <chimp> k
[15:29] <totalwormage> don't panic!
[15:29] <TheSheep> chimp: there are various solutions for monitoring such thingsd
[15:30] <TheSheep> chimp: but I'm not sure if any is recommended for ubuntu
[15:30] <chimp> I have problems at the minute from a fresh install and i cant really explain them
[15:31] <chimp> Erm, well first signs were when it is starting up, the load screen was for a while stopping about 5/6ths of the way through, then showing the services starting, and when it got to unix printing service cupsd it would get stuck
[15:31] <chimp> ahh it just did it again there now
[15:31] <chimp> that exact error, sometimes it happens sometimes it doesnt
[15:31] <chimp> not even an error really, just it stops at that point
[16:33] <gerro> I tried doing some bittorrent file with deluge and after turning it off because it wasn't working, I am now getting dosed all over port 6881 udp, internet connection is crawling.... like slower than dial up crawl
[16:34] <gerro> edited firewall to turn it off but things keep coming... can I disable udp completely?
[16:51] <PowerJC> how much space does an xubuntu install take up?
[16:57] <somerville32> You should have atleast 4GB
[16:57] <somerville32> It might work with less but you'll have literally no room
[16:57] <PowerJC> i want to dual boot it with windows 98, with a 4gb hard disc, so can it fit into 2gb?
[16:58] <somerville32> No, I don't think so
[16:58] <somerville32> You will not have a very enjoyable experience with only 2GB
[16:58] <PowerJC> what takes up all the space?
[17:04] <darrend> I have a cron job in /etc/cron.hourly that fails when cron executes it ("Exec Bad Format" or similar message).  If I execute it manually, it runs fine.  Any ideas?
[17:08] <somerville32> darrend, Please pastebin the cron file :]
[17:10] <darrend> somerville32: http://pastebin.com/d13dc62ab
[17:13] <somerville32> darrend, There must be some sort of format that they must adhere to. Try asking in #ubuntu-server
[17:14] <darrend> ok, thx
[18:30] <PowerJC> xubuntu in 2gb of space, is it possible?
[18:32] <scrapbunny> i am thinking of switching to xubuntu to help with speed on thin clients. anyone here using xubuntu with ltsp?
[18:35] <somerville32> scrapbunny, No but I know of people
[19:44] <darrend> somerville32: still around?
[19:49] <zoredache> darrend: ? are you still having problems with your cron script?
[19:57] <darrend> no, I fixed it.  Did you see the stupid error?
[19:58] <zoredache> soemthing about cannot exec
[19:58] <darrend> no, I mean my stupid error in the script
[20:28] <dmound> greetings...  I was hoping someone here might be able to help me get the "terminal" working in the accessories menu in 7.10
[20:29] <dmound> I've installed xubuntu 7.10 on 3 machines now, and on each one, when I click the "terminal" program in the accessories menu I get logged out of my xfce session.
[20:30] <somerville32> dmound, Known bug :)
[20:31] <dmound> oh...  didn't find it it list.  good to know its being worked on though.
[20:32]  * somerville32 nods.
[21:39] <Ahmuck> does xubuntu suppport terminal on widescreens?  xubuntu keeps logging me off when i try to use the terminal
[21:39] <zoredache> apparently that is a common bug Ahmuck
[21:39] <evil_tech> yeah
[21:40] <evil_tech> its not because of the widescreen
[21:40] <evil_tech> probably^
[22:49] <Ahmuck> why does moving a window cause the cpu to go through the roof in xubuntu?
[22:49] <Ahmuck> at 100%
[22:51] <Ahmuck> what is gam_server?
[22:54] <zoredache> Ahmuck: that would probably indicate you don't have correct video driver and vesa server got selected
[22:55] <Ahmuck> gam server or the 100% from a moving window?
[22:55] <zoredache> 100% from moving the window
[22:56] <zoredache> as for gam_server 'apt-cache show gamin' for details
[22:58] <Ahmuck> gamin ... hrm
[22:58] <Ahmuck> ok, well, so correct video driver, i assume is the video card
[22:58] <Ahmuck> does xubuntu have a hardware selection tool?  similar to add/remove hardware, etc.
[23:04] <somerville32> Hey Everyone! Is there anyone here who would be interested in help testing out the latest Alpha for Xubuntu 8.04? :)
[23:04] <evil_tech> how would i do that?
[23:04] <evil_tech> just install run and find whats broke?
[23:05] <somerville32> evil_tech, https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/All
[23:05] <somerville32> https://iso.qa.stgraber.org/qatracker/build/Xubuntu <-- For Xubuntu only
[23:08] <evil_tech> downloading
[23:08] <HeadLong87632> at last, im here
[23:09] <evil_tech> was it a long tortuous process?
[23:09] <HeadLong87632> indeed it was
[23:09] <HeadLong87632> im letting my blood pressure normalize
[23:09] <HeadLong87632> and thinking of my quiet place.
[23:09] <evil_tech> :)
[23:10] <evil_tech> dont forget your power animal
[23:10] <HeadLong87632> is this the xubuntu for new ppl help channel?
[23:10] <HeadLong87632> its a penguin.  Whats yours?
[23:10] <evil_tech> this is indeed the help channel
[23:11] <Ahmuck> yes
[23:11] <evil_tech> super mario 1up mushroom
[23:11] <HeadLong87632> heh
[23:11] <Ahmuck> mad bull for me
[23:11] <HeadLong87632> well this is my first linux install.  Im trying to put xubuntu on a laptop that has XP Pro on it.
[23:11] <Ahmuck> is there a way to probe lspci without a terminal?
[23:12] <HeadLong87632> I was thinking there would be some option somewhere to format and install the distro but I didnt see one.
[23:12] <HeadLong87632> and its running from CD.
[23:12] <evil_tech> Ahmuck: not that I am aware of
[23:12] <Ahmuck> terminal keeps crashing on me
[23:12] <evil_tech> what about F2 and run xterm
[23:13] <evil_tech> ALT + F2
[23:14] <somerville32> HeadLong87632, Click "install" on the desktop if you're running the live cd
[23:14] <HeadLong87632> ok.
[23:14] <HeadLong87632> gotta wait for it to stop accessing.  clicked on File System just a second ago.
[23:16] <HeadLong87632> hmmm the CD just keeps going and going
[23:16] <somerville32> evil_tech, No one else has done tests yet. IT would be super cool if Xubuntu was the first time to report in on their disks <g>
[23:17] <HeadLong87632> wait.  I did that earlier.  Brought up a program with vertical windows.  The cursor stopped responding.
[23:17] <evil_tech> 24:29 to go
[23:17] <evil_tech> :)
[23:17] <Ahmuck> heh, i could test.  piii 533mhz 256mb ram, and mysterious video card
[23:17] <somerville32> Ahmuck, Awesome. Welcome aboard! :)
[23:17] <Ahmuck> btw, i have a wide screen monitor, is this part of my problem with my video resolution?
[23:18] <evil_tech> whats your resolution?
[23:19] <HeadLong87632> pIII 750 mhz,  128mb RAM.
[23:19] <HeadLong87632> : /
[23:20] <evil_tech> Headlong87632:ive installed xubuntu on less than half that processor and had a perfectly functional environment
[23:20] <Ahmuck> hrm, i forget, its something like 1580x1200
[23:21] <Ahmuck> evil_tech: really?  128mb a ram is really pushing it.
[23:21] <Ahmuck> for me it was
[23:21] <evil_tech> the ram was the same or more
[23:21] <evil_tech> processor was a 366 PII
[23:21] <somerville32> 192mb is the pushing it :P
[23:21] <Ahmuck> i've got it running on 533mhz celeaon with 256
[23:22] <HeadLong87632> will this distro function with 128?
[23:22] <Ahmuck> mb ram
[23:22] <evil_tech> yes but not exactly speedy
[23:22] <Ahmuck> HeadLong87632: yes, i've used it at that
[23:22] <HeadLong87632> mmm.  what distro could give me web browsing with 128?
[23:22] <evil_tech> Ahmuck: sure the resolution isnt supposed to be 1920x1600
[23:22] <somerville32> HeadLong87632, Damn Small Linux
[23:23] <evil_tech> Fluxbuntu
[23:23] <HeadLong87632> DS Linux was my 2nd choice.  I'll give it a shot.
[23:23] <HeadLong87632> Fluxbuntu?
[23:23] <Ahmuck> evil_tech: nope, but the thing is, i'm running at 1024x768 because no other resolution was listed
[23:23] <Ahmuck> HeadLong87632: i tried fluxbuntu, but with both systems, fluxbuntu failed to boot from cdrom
[23:24] <evil_tech> well its still an RC
[23:24] <Ahmuck> i've tried it it virtual, and it's very basic
[23:24] <evil_tech> did you inform JoeJaxx in #fluxbuntu
[23:24] <Ahmuck> er, in virtual
[23:24] <evil_tech> or anyone in #fluxbuntu for that matter
[23:24] <Ahmuck> heh, i'm banned from fluxubuntu
[23:24] <evil_tech> lol
[23:24] <totalwormage> lol
[23:24] <evil_tech> Ahmuck: have you tried reconfiguring X
[23:24] <HeadLong87632> #join fluxbuntu
[23:25] <HeadLong87632> woa.  Noob stealth deactivated!
[23:25] <Ahmuck>  /join fluxbuntu
[23:25] <HeadLong87632> ah thanks.
[23:25] <Ahmuck> evil_tech: nope
[23:25] <evil_tech> try that from either xterm or from a tty
[23:26] <evil_tech> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:27] <evil_tech> or you could just look at xorg.conf see if it lists you resolution there then you could do sudo xrandr -s "res x res"
[23:27] <Ahmuck> ok, i'v got yakuake installed now, so i ought to be good to go
[23:32] <Ahmuck> evil_tech: xserver-xorg?
[23:32] <evil_tech> 10:50
[23:32] <Ahmuck> does xubuntu have something similar to yakuake?
[23:32] <evil_tech> have no clue what yakuake is
[23:36] <nantax> hello, how can I map the win key so that it will behave like the windows start menu key?
[23:37] <nantax> I have tried making a short cut from the keyboard preferences and setting xfce4-popup-menu and pressed the win key
[23:37] <nantax> but the shortcut that appears is SUPER+SUPER_L
[23:43] <kirika> im brainfarting right now and i need to change the swap partition to 512 instead of 1000. i mistakenly made it 1000 and i believe it may be slowing me down
[23:44] <kirika> if i run cfdisk i not quite sure what to input for my swap partition
[23:45] <nantax> i think this channel is dead
[23:45] <nantax> lol
[23:45] <kirika> yea mee too it seems to be dead whenever i come here
[23:46] <nantax> btw do you know how to reconfigure the keyboard
[23:46] <nantax> so that you can select another layout
[23:46] <kirika> have you tried the ubuntu dapper page i believe it has a section devoted to it
[23:46] <nantax> the one like when you are still installing xubuntu fresh
[23:47] <kirika> do you need another language setup
[23:47] <nantax> no
[23:47] <nantax> just another layout
[23:48] <nantax> because when i press win key to setup the keyboard, it shows as super+super+L
[23:49] <HeadLong87632> installing fluxbuntu
[23:50] <kirika> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper this has a small guide to remapping keys
[23:50] <kirika> it may help if its what yo need
[23:50] <nantax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_keys
[23:50] <nantax> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaneInstallerKeyboard
[23:50] <nantax> im heading here at the moment
[23:51] <HeadLong87632> the #fluxbuntu channel is dead quiet.
[23:51] <kirika> HeadLong87632, what do you need
[23:51] <kirika> i havent used fluxbox in a long time
[23:51] <HeadLong87632> nothing yet.  the installation is going ok.
[23:51] <nantax> kirika how do you setup the screen saver in xubuntu
[23:51] <kirika> ok cool i hope it is sucessful
[23:51] <HeadLong87632> thank you for offering.
[23:52] <nantax> i have enabled the restricted driver and the screensaver animation is now smooth
[23:52] <nantax> but it never shows up, because the monitor sleeps when the pc is idle
[23:52] <kirika> mine sleeps as well ive never used screensavers
[23:52] <somerville32> I use screensaver
[23:52] <somerville32> Mine locks on idle
[23:53] <HeadLong87632> in regards to partitioning,  what is LVM?
[23:53] <kirika> nantax, have you looked in applications -> screensaver settings
[23:54] <somerville32> kirika, Applications -> Settings -> Screensaver settings
[23:54] <kirika> logical volume management???
[23:54] <zoredache> HeadLong87632: lvm is a dismanagement tool that lets you partition the drives in different ways
[23:54] <kirika> somerville32, yea
[23:54] <zoredache> it also lets you do snapshots and many other things
[23:55] <zoredache> somerville32: there seems to be a bug related screensavers on clean installs
[23:55] <HeadLong87632> ah. advanced stuff.
[23:55] <zoredache> It seems the gnome-screensaver package isn't installed by default
[23:56] <zoredache> HeadLong87632: yes advanced stuff, lets see it is also frequently used if you want to encrypt your drives and lots of other neat things that you might not care about unless you are running a server
[23:57] <nantax> so how do we fix our default-buggy-screensaver????
[23:57] <nantax> i mean, how do we showcase our xubuntu goodness at the office when we cant even see the cool screensaver?
[23:57] <zoredache> Install gnome-screensaver
[23:58] <nantax> i mean previewing it and leaving the pc would work heheh, but its not safe since your not logged out
[23:58] <nantax> when i go to synaptic, i get errors
[23:58] <nantax> let me check again
[23:58] <nantax> Could not download all repository indexes
[23:58] <nantax> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[23:59] <nantax> http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[23:59] <nantax> http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[23:59] <nantax> http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release: Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[23:59] <nantax> i was trying to install icewm yesterday but i cannot see it in synaptic
[23:59] <zoredache> after gnome-screensaver is installed create an auto-start setting for 'gnome-screensaver'