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nixternalhttp://www.nixternal.com/tmp/final   <-- anyone feel like playing it a few times...tell me if you have any problems with it04:14
stdinnixternal: works great in konqueror, not in firefox :p04:21
nixternalstdin: ya, doesn't work in the 2 worst browsers in the world04:21
nixternalfirefox and ie04:21
nixternalworks in konqi, opera, and safari04:21
stdinwhat a shame :p04:21
nixternalI don't feel like debugging that crap...I hate web browsers04:22
vorianlol04:22
voriansniper04:22
nixternalya, those are words the professor said we had to have04:22
* Jucato waves04:25
JucatoHobbsee: contentless ping :)04:26
HobbseeYou sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.04:27
Hobbsee:)04:27
Jucatohahah I just love that response :)04:27
JucatoHobbsee: fancy putting https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings in the channel topic? :)04:27
Hobbseetopic's not locked04:27
Jucatoheeh ok :)04:28
=== Jucato changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | 7.10 out, you all rock! | Merge away: http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Meeting Saturday 11UTC, agenda in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
Jucatowoot! I changed the topic! I changed the topic! :D04:28
Hobbsee:D04:29
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Jucato11+8 = 19... 19-12 = 7... right?04:29
Jucatolol I'm doubting my own math :)04:30
Hobbsee...yes04:30
Jucato7pm for me :)04:30
* Jucato hopes family's not having dinner by then...04:30
claydoh6 am for me04:31
claydohno, 7am i think04:31
claydohill be there to this time04:32
Jucato:)04:33
Jucatoclaydoh: good! I can take use as prosecution's witness for some of the stuff I put on the agenda :P04:34
DaSkreechhi all04:34
Jucatoyo DaSkreeeeeeeeeech04:35
claydohcan I plead the 5th?04:35
Jucatonope :)04:35
claydohumm or are we under international law :)04:35
Jucatoyep04:35
DaSkreechnixternal: yay you Lose?04:38
claydohI am havin a knee operation in JAn, and will be off my feet for at leat 2 weeks, maybe 304:38
nixternalya, you killed balmer, releasing the penguin! :p04:38
claydohso i plan to learn enough packaging to whip one up of kmymoney2 cvs04:39
DaSkreechWith megatron no less04:39
* Jucato sighs... planet wars...04:40
DaSkreechI hope Unicron wins04:41
JucatoUnicorns win!!!04:42
DaSkreech:-P04:49
DaSkreechI meant Cybertron04:49
DaSkreechWe all know that Golden ponies win04:49
* Jucato wonders if Cybertron transforms/transformed into a giant robot too... a sort of arch-rivalry between Unicron and Cybertron :)04:52
DaSkreechDidn't Unicron become cybertron?04:52
Jucatounicron? lost his head and went the way of the big bang04:53
DaSkreechAh04:53
Jucatoat least in one of the movies... not sure if they made a remake somewhere04:53
nixternalJucato: did you play HangBallmer yet? :p05:06
nixternalit works in everything but IE7...go figure05:06
Jucatolol05:06
Jucatonot yet05:06
Jucatoflash game?05:06
nixternaljavascript05:06
Jucatooh :)05:06
nixternalhttp://www.nixternal.com/tmp/final05:06
Jucatogoes to try05:07
stdincrashes firefox nicely :)05:09
Jucatonooo! I let him live!05:09
nixternalstdin: how is it crashing firefox?05:10
stdinnixternal: after hanging ballmer, it just hangs and FF eats all my CPU05:11
DaSkreechWorks in FF for me05:11
Jucatolol! this is the only game where you win if you lose :)05:11
nixternalok, that is an issue with the popups it seems05:11
nixternal 5001 nixterna  15   0  144m  63m  20m S  7.6  4.2   0:09.09 firefox-bin05:12
nixternalit doesn't bomb firefox, but it doesn't do anything until you click close05:12
stdin 1371 stdin     25   0  194m  74m  22m R 89.4  7.4   1:28.32 firefox-bin05:13
HobbseeWFM.05:15
Jucatolegally blonde the musical... now that's not something you hear/see everyday...05:19
yuriyevenin05:19
yuriyhey nixternal, how's web browsing in konqueror in kde4 been working for you?05:19
nixternallike crap05:20
Jucato:)05:20
* Jucato keeps on using konqueror305:20
yuriyoh :( i was hoping the konqueror problems were fixed, then i'd get it set up as my main desktop05:20
Jucatonot that I have a choice, since konvi and kdepim are run from my kde3 user :)05:20
Jucatoyuriy: you can,just keep on using konqueror3 :)05:21
DaSkreechJucato: I hope I don't hear it every day!!05:34
DaSkreechnixternal: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/134123905:52
DaSkreechFirst comment05:52
DaSkreechG'night06:36
sebastiangood morning everybody08:43
Jucatos/morning/afternoon/08:43
Jucatogood morning to you too :)08:44
sebastianafternoon, ... are there other times than cet ... ;)08:48
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* Jucato yawns, runs around the room, and goes out the door.10:12
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aplg|moblie_sebas: wtf is cet?10:23
* aplg|moblie_ only knows utc10:23
Riddellaplg|moblie_: european time, UTC+111:04
aplg|moblie_aye ^_^11:10
* Hobbsee wonders why multiple parts of the kdepim merge got bunged up.11:11
Tonio_Riddell: hi ;)11:34
Riddellsalut Tonio_11:34
Tonio_Riddell: I'm just packaging disk manager11:34
RiddellTonio_: what's that?11:34
Tonio_Riddell: we really should consider using this11:34
Tonio_Riddell: kde qtparted11:34
Tonio_Riddell: part of the alice project11:34
Tonio_Riddell: good points is that it is maintained andkde native app11:35
Tonio_Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Disk+Manager?content=7014911:35
Riddellalice project?11:36
Riddelllooks promising11:38
Riddellmhb might be interested in it, he was looking at paritioning apps11:38
Tonio_Riddell: it is :)11:39
Tonio_can someone please take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kpar2 ? ;)11:41
Riddell(preferably not me since then I can't New it)11:58
Nightrosenixternal: haha nice game ;-)12:11
apachelogger_Tonio_: ehm, I already do :P12:22
apachelogger_or rather12:22
apachelogger_did :P12:22
apachelogger_upstream needs to add a copying.lib though12:23
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apacheloggerTonio_: about kpar2 ... Homepage is now an own tag .. current standards is 3.7.2.212:32
apacheloggerRiddell: btw, how long does the processing of a motu application usually take?12:33
Hobbseeoh yes, i should read that mail12:34
* Hobbsee +1's, with comments about licencing.12:37
Hobbseeapachelogger: waiting on crimsun, ajmitch, and soren to respond (or a subset of them, i think)12:39
Hobbseehowever, i suspect they were waiting on people like me to repsond12:39
apacheloggerhehe, k :)12:39
RiddellHobbsee: KDE 4 packages have had licencing problems?12:42
RiddellKDE packages in general have due to not including all the licence texts and other bits, but apachelogger is about the best at spotting that12:43
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Tonio_apachelogger: no copying.lib for kpar2, as there is no lgpl stuff in it12:46
Tonio_apachelogger: will fix the version12:46
Tonio_apachelogger: what do you mean by "own tag" ?12:47
Tonio_apachelogger: have an example ?12:47
aplg|mobileTonio_: Homepage: Blah right below Standards-version12:47
Tonio_aplg|mobile: hum, oki, I missed that new thing ;)12:48
Tonio_apachelogger: fixing12:48
aplg|mobilek12:48
aplg|mobileHobbsee: about the licensing -> diskman's copyright file: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/14700112:48
* aplg|mobile actually thinks he improved on that stuff lately ;-)12:49
aplg|mobileafk, lunch12:49
Hobbseeaplg|mobile:12:49
Hobbsee#12:49
HobbseeLicense:12:49
Hobbseeprobably needs to be filled in, too12:49
Tonio_Riddell: can you drop uploads waiting in NEW ?12:50
Tonio_Riddell: looks like I dputed to ubuntu instead of revu.....12:50
HobbseeTonio_: what did you want dropped?12:50
Tonio_Hobbsee: kpar212:50
Tonio_Hobbsee: should be revued before upload ;)12:51
Hobbseehehe, indeed12:51
Tonio_Hobbsee: can you ?12:51
Hobbseeyes12:51
Tonio_Hobbsee: that's nice ;)12:52
HobbseeTonio_: rejected.12:52
HobbseeTonio_: yeah, it's one of the few thigns i can do :)12:52
Tonio_ho yeah you're archive manager now :)12:52
Hobbseeone of, yes12:52
Tonio_Hobbsee: you can do much more than me now ;)12:52
Tonio_I'll call you "boss" in the future :)12:52
Hobbseehah12:53
* Jucato thought she was boss already...12:53
Jucatohi Tonio_ :)12:53
Hobbseeaplg|mobile: looks better12:53
Hobbseeaplg|mobile: was thinking in terms of the khaki stuff12:53
JucatoTonio_: Disk Manager is just a partition editor? not something like mountconfig?12:54
Tonio_Jucato: qtparted like12:54
Tonio_Jucato: currently working on the package12:54
Jucatoah12:54
Tonio_Jucato: but that's (good point) a real kde application12:55
Tonio_qtparted is unmaintained and not a kde application12:55
Jucatoyep :)12:55
RiddellTonio_: err, it disappeared12:55
JucatoTonio_: hopefully it will stay maintained :)12:56
Tonio_Riddell: what dissapeared ? kpar2 ? I suspect Hobbsee dropped it12:56
Tonio_Jucato: it is part if a very active and interesting project, called alice12:56
Tonio_Jucato: remember that x.org config tool that we discuss a few weeks ago ?12:57
Tonio_Jucato: part of the same project12:57
* Hobbsee killed it.12:57
Jucatoyou killed alice? O.o12:57
Tonio_Hobbsee: merci beaucoup chef !12:57
Tonio_Hobbsee: chef is french for boss, fyi12:57
Jucatodarn!12:58
Jucatoyou just made me delete a whole sentence :)12:58
* Jucato was about to ask that :P12:58
Hobbsee:)12:58
Tonio_Jucato: talking about that, we didn't do any french speaking day for a long time now :)12:58
Tonio_Jucato: Riddell is pretty good at speaking french ;)12:58
Jucatohehe yeah :)12:58
Jucatooooh really? :)12:59
Riddellmoi?12:59
Jucatooui!12:59
Tonio_bien sur toi ! tu parles très bien français !13:00
Tonio_daniel holbach is pretty good too13:00
Tonio_understands very well13:00
aplg|mobileHobbsee: well, khalkhi was around the time you admins decided to drop packages without a lgpl copy in the sources I think :P13:01
Hobbseeaplg|mobile: i wasnt an admin at that time13:02
Jucatoah I know tres bien :)13:02
* Jucato resists the urge to sound stupid and say "three good!"13:02
Jucato:P13:02
aplg|mobileHobbsee: well, I just want to say that I wasn't used to check for the complete copies13:03
Hobbseeaplg|mobile: oh, i see what you mean.  i'm just saying it's not my fault, per se :)13:03
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aplg|mobileHobbsee: hehe, if it is anyones fault, it's upstreams ;-)13:05
Hobbseeyes, they'll do for being blamed13:06
Riddellapachelogger is now a motu?  I only saw one motu council vote13:10
Riddellthe process for this changes so frequently I lose track :)13:10
Riddellcongratulations apachelogger!13:10
Riddelldon't forget to do lots of merges13:10
apacheloggerRiddell: thanks, gotta start with merging asap :)13:11
Jucatohere they come!13:12
jjessehere who come?13:12
jjesse-/13:12
Tonio_Riddell: concerning disk manager, I don't really know what to do with the deps13:13
Jucatoyou! :)13:13
Tonio_Riddell: lots of things are optional, but imho should be installed by default, as this is for example loosing people with qtparted13:13
Tonio_Riddell: for example depends on xfsprogs, instead of recommends....13:13
Tonio_Riddell: what's your opinion about that ?13:13
Tonio_Riddell: imho the maximum things should be supported out of the box13:14
apacheloggerhm13:14
apacheloggerTonio_: you read that I have an almost finished package? :P13:14
apacheloggerbtw, I think out of the box we should support the ubuntu defaults13:16
apacheloggermaybe +ntfs13:16
Tonio_apachelogger: are you packaging this too ?13:16
Tonio_apachelogger: here is the list of optional packages:13:17
Tonio_hfsutils util-linux xfsprogs mount xfsdump e2fsprogs dosfstools reiserfsprogs jfsutils e2fsprogs ntfsprogs reiser4progs dosfstools udev13:17
apacheloggerTonio_: #17301613:17
Tonio_apachelogger: hum okay13:17
Tonio_apachelogger: we also have to patch the sources to remove the top banner13:17
Tonio_apachelogger: useless and doesn't respect kde apps HIG13:17
apacheloggerwell, maybe we can ask upstream to do so13:17
apacheloggerhe needs to add a copying.lib anyway13:18
Tonio_apachelogger: they won't, as they do for all alice apps13:18
Tonio_apachelogger: I don't see any problem in removing this, that respects the gpl13:18
apacheloggersure, but every patch we have to maintain is one patch too much IMO13:18
Tonio_apachelogger: maybe follow what gparted does13:19
Tonio_apachelogger: so depends on everything but suggests xfsprogs, reiserfsprogs, reiser4progs, jfsutils, ntfsprogs13:19
Tonio_apachelogger: I'd say recommends for those13:19
Tonio_Depends: util-linux, mount, e2fsprogs, udev13:20
apacheloggeryeah, that's kinda what I had in mind13:20
Tonio_Recommends: hfsutils, xfsprogs, xfsdump,dosfstools, reiserfsprogs, jfsutils, ntfsprogs, reiser4progs, dosfstools13:20
* apachelogger hacks up a desktop file13:20
Tonio_apachelogger: I greped the all code about that, so the list of tools should be complete13:21
apacheloggerok, thanks13:21
Tonio_apachelogger: that the Darth Vader thing you talked about yesterday hehe :)13:21
Tonio_apachelogger: now I understand13:22
Tonio_apachelogger: ping me once packaging is done, I'll revu that one13:22
Tonio_apachelogger: I tested this and we really need that one in main replacing qtparted13:22
apacheloggeragreed13:22
apacheloggerTonio_: I'll upload it to revu once upstream released a tarball with copying.lib13:22
Tonio_apachelogger: want me to write the no banner patch ?13:22
Tonio_apachelogger: oki13:23
apacheloggerTonio_: if you have time, sure :)13:23
Tonio_apachelogger: you can rebuild the tarball with copying.lib and mention in the changelog that upstream has been pingued about13:23
Tonio_apachelogger: also the locales thing is a bit strange....13:23
apacheloggertotally13:23
Tonio_apachelogger: have you tested this ?13:23
apacheloggernope13:24
Tonio_I'm unsure we get the translations13:24
Tonio_apachelogger: I'll have a look at that13:24
apacheloggerk13:24
Tonio_apachelogger: that's un compatible with rosetta, maybe we should consider patching for standard gmo/po translations.....13:25
apacheloggeragain, maybe we can get upstream to do that?13:25
RiddellTonio_: make it depend on anything in main, recommend others13:27
Tonio_Riddell: ok13:28
Tonio_apachelogger: then depends on everything :)13:28
Tonio_Depends: util-linux, mount, e2fsprogs, udev, hfsutils, xfsprogs, xfsdump,dosfstools, reiserfsprogs, jfsutils, ntfsprogs, reiser4progs, dosfstools13:28
apacheloggerwell13:28
Tonio_apachelogger: I'll give you too patches today : no banner patch and maybe french translation13:29
apacheloggerI see no reason why a normal user (as in non-geek) needs to have 100% support for jfs for example13:29
Tonio_apachelogger: would that make it complicated for them ? I don't think so13:30
Tonio_apachelogger: normal users don't need those tools btw13:30
apacheloggernah, but waste space13:30
Tonio_apachelogger: those tools are very little13:30
Tonio_apachelogger: and this is not meant to be part of the default install btw13:30
apacheloggerfair enough13:30
Tonio_apachelogger: oki seya for the patches :)13:33
Tonio_apachelogger: my concern is really the translation process.....13:40
Tonio_apachelogger: they are mostly empty now, but it should be possible to generate a pot file and get it in rosetta13:41
Tonio_apachelogger: will you patch admin/cvs.sh for rosetta ?13:41
Riddellapachelogger: partitioning tools are not on the whole for normal users13:41
Tonio_apachelogger: that will probably reach main, so we need the patch13:41
Tonio_Riddell: ++13:42
Tonio_Riddell: will rosetta work if there is no .pot in the sources as long as it is patched ?13:42
Tonio_Riddell: I suspect the sources have to be patched to load a .gmo catalog right ?13:42
Tonio_Riddell: translations are .ts files based13:43
Tonio_Riddell: can hardly work with rosetta I suspect.... :)13:43
Riddellrosetta doesn't talk .ts13:43
Riddelldoes this app use kdelibs?13:44
apacheloggerTonio_: how to generate a pot with i18n()? -.-13:44
apacheloggerbah .svn in admin directory13:45
Tonio_apachelogger: sh admin/cvs.sh extract-messages13:45
Tonio_Riddell: it does but not for i18n things13:45
Riddellsilly of it13:46
Riddellno point us changing it to KDE's gettext, just poke upstream that it would be a good idea13:47
apacheloggeragree on that13:48
jjessedid i miss an email or did the alpha1 cd come out?13:50
Riddellnot as far as I know13:50
davmor2Riddell: Alternative still not working it is crashing out because of a Kaffeine conflict.  I'll try it with ovaltene and see if it calms down :)13:52
Riddelldavmor2: I just uploaded a new meta package for that13:53
Riddellso I'll wait for that and make new CDs13:53
davmor2okay cool13:53
Riddellkwwii: did ruphy get those wallpapers?14:19
kwwiiRiddell: yeah, he said he would tell you where to download them14:19
kwwiilet me remind him14:19
Riddell"Accepted: webkitkde" whee14:21
apacheloggerTonio_: package is done14:21
Riddellnixternal: there you go (it's got plenty of problems, but it's a start)14:21
apacheloggerTonio_: are you going to mail upstream about the translation stuff? if so please also mention to remove admin/.svn and add COPYING.LIB14:22
apacheloggerdid that myself for now14:22
RiddellTonio_: "webkit is way better than khtml" is arguable, the difference is that webkit is bug compatible with safari14:22
Riddellhi jpatrick, I got that monster LUKS patch in14:30
jpatrickRiddell: thanks, it has a slight problem with it not including it's new .desktop files, waiting for PPA for testing now14:31
Tonio_Riddell: have tried to play with ajax apps like roundcube ?14:31
jpatrickhopefully we'll have LUKS support by tonight :)14:31
Tonio_NOTHING works in konqueror on that poin t14:31
Tonio_I have seen bugs on yahoo, gmail, all new modern webservices14:32
Tonio_opera and safari works on those14:32
Tonio_Riddell: better doesn't mean better codebase14:32
Tonio_Riddell: I meant "works in the real world"14:32
RiddellTonio_: sure that's my point.  but just saying "better" will make the khtml developers grumpy since in various ways khtml is better14:33
Tonio_Riddell: let's say "adapted to modern web brosing" then ;)14:35
Tonio_Riddell: I just needed to troll a bit, sorry for that :)14:35
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jpatrickRiddell: by the way, can you get tork passed New?14:45
apacheloggerTonio_: typo in karp2 control repairation vs. reparation14:55
jpatrickapachelogger: congrats!14:55
apacheloggerjpatrick: thanks :)14:56
apacheloggerI guess we now can flood universe with KWare :D14:56
apacheloggerTonio_: also have a look at the desktop file http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/147250 ... at least as much that lintian shuts up ;-)14:57
apacheloggerTonio_: + adding the docbook/manpage copyright and license to copyright file might not be too bad14:59
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bddebianHeya15:06
DaSkreechsup?15:08
bddebianNada, you?15:09
Riddellah, modern urban colloquialisms15:11
Jucatoheh :)15:12
davmor2Riddell: any news on the new images?15:36
Riddelldavmor2: still waiting on kubuntu-meta to enter the archive15:37
davmor2okay ta.  Can you give heno or me a shout when it is good to test please :)15:38
Riddellsure15:40
davmor2ta muchly15:41
nixternalapachelogger: congrats! now you can leave jpatrick alone, which in turn leaves me alone :p15:45
nixternalRiddell: rock on with webkit! :)15:45
apacheloggerlol15:45
DaSkreechwebkit supporter?15:45
* nixternal goes to see how much more dirty laundry is being aired on the planets today15:46
apacheloggernixternal: thanks though15:46
nixternalDaSkreech: big time webkit supporter15:46
DaSkreechok :-)15:46
DaSkreechall I want is inserted hotkeys back and i'm ok15:46
apacheloggermeh15:46
Jucatoboo!15:46
* Jucato runs15:46
Jucatoapachelogger: congratulations btw15:46
apacheloggerawful if someone calls you while you're at revuing -.-15:47
* apachelogger forgot where he was15:47
apacheloggerJucato: thanks :)15:47
apacheloggerMez: omg, I think I default to nazi revu mode :S15:48
Mezapachelogger, you became motu ?15:48
DaSkreechI don't know if that's konqui or KHTMl but I want t back15:49
DaSkreechWhich ever combo gives me that I'll use :)15:49
DaSkreechhi Mez15:49
Mezhey DaSkreech15:49
apacheloggerMez: yep15:49
Mezapachelogger, congrats, now I don't get bother either ;)15:50
* Mez whistles15:50
apacheloggerDaSkreech: what's inserted hotkeys?15:50
Mezand Nazi Revu is good ;) I taught you well you padwan15:50
apacheloggerindeed15:50
apacheloggermuhahahahaha15:50
Mezbtw, I am your father15:50
DaSkreechapachelogger: When you are browsing a website if you press ^ then it makes up hotkeys for the links and shows them on the page15:51
DaSkreechapachelogger: Wow good thing you made Solo get the girl huh?15:51
apacheloggerMez: you made sweet love with Tm_T?15:51
* apachelogger imagines awful things15:51
Mezapachelogger,  ?? ?15:51
* Mez is confused15:51
apacheloggerTm_T is my mom!!!15:51
Mezo_O15:52
apacheloggerDaSkreech: oh, ah well, press CTRL15:52
MezI thought Tm_T was male. ...15:52
DaSkreechapachelogger: Yes I just said that15:52
apacheloggerDaSkreech: that's a KHTML feature btw15:52
Mezyeah, accesskeys ftw15:52
apacheloggerwebkitty doesn't do taht15:52
Mezvery useful when I'm feeling lazy15:52
DaSkreechapachelogger: damnit! I wonder if it will be hacked into the fruity HTML15:52
apacheloggerMez: so Tm_T can't be my mom because he's mail? Oo15:52
Mezapachelogger, I got 2 hours sleep last night15:53
apacheloggerhaha!15:53
DaSkreechsh e-mail ?15:53
Mezdont confuse me, my brain'll asplode15:53
apachelogger<-- 415:53
Mez:P15:53
Mez<-- also won £16015:53
apachelogger<-- spent € 10.1215:53
nixternal<-- will work for food15:54
apacheloggerTm_T: once you have time, you might tell Dad that you're my mom15:54
mhbhello folks15:54
nixternalhowdy mhb15:55
* apachelogger gives mhb a beer15:55
mhbhow are you?15:55
apacheloggerahoy!15:55
mhbapachelogger: thanks, that is nice of you, but I dont drink alcohol, actually.15:55
nixternalslowly waking up and working up the energy to get ready for a nice trek to the uni15:55
mhbapachelogger: ahoy to you too15:55
apachelogger-.-15:55
apacheloggerreally, how did the nerds2.0 became non-alcohol drinking15:56
Jucatoola mhb15:56
apacheloggerthis is just not originial :P15:56
apacheloggermhb: maybe I can interest you in a cup of tea?15:57
DaSkreechIs there a webkit channel?15:59
apachelogger#safari maybe :P15:59
DaSkreechThat just has lions and tigers and beers!16:00
DaSkreechand I don't drink16:00
DaSkreech:)16:00
mhbapachelogger: I am sorry, it was a design decision16:01
mhbapachelogger: I like to live my life to the full, without being artificially influenced too much16:02
apacheloggermhb: makes perfect sense... you have to know I also was a teetotaler some time ago16:04
* apachelogger got into bad influence though :|16:04
apacheloggerit's all \sh_away's fault :P16:05
mhbcontinuing my Harry Potter analogies, /me is not among muggles anymore16:05
mhbapachelogger: I am tolerant enough, dont worry16:07
nixternalanyone have any ideas as to why when running apt-get upgrade or what not, it will freeze at certain steps? anyone experienced this before?16:25
Riddellnot I16:26
nixternalI can't figure this one out...it has been happening for a while now16:26
nixternalit leaves a 'dpkg <defunct>' in the processes as well16:26
mhbnixternal: not me16:27
apacheloggernixternal: considering you have to time: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tastymenu16:45
apachelogger+how to upload anyway?16:45
Tonio_apachelogger: manpage is part of the packaging, and the licence of packaging is already in there for kpart216:51
Tonio_I really don't want to override lintian16:52
Tonio_apachelogger: I really consider overriding litian hypopcrit practices16:52
apacheloggeroh16:52
apacheloggerI didn't say you shall override lintian16:52
apacheloggeryou shall fix the desktop file :P16:52
Tonio_hum, oki ;)16:52
Tonio_are there warnings ? I looked yeserday and didn't saw anything..... I was tired :)16:53
Tonio_apachelogger: I'll fixed this then :)16:53
apacheloggerTonio_: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/14725016:53
davmor2Riddell: I'm going to be afk for a while so at this point let heno know when it's safe to test ta :)16:53
Tonio_package will be done tomorrow, as well as patches for diskmanager16:54
Tonio_apachelogger: thanks for the report, that'll be fixed.... true I didn't look carefully enough to the desktop file....16:54
* apachelogger also forgets that all the time16:54
Tonio_well I lintian on the source package, not always on the deb file16:55
Tonio_that's my problem with packaging :)16:55
Tonio_I should include add a lintian hook to pbuilder16:55
apacheloggerhehe, I do it for both, but the problem is ... as we can see from the paste, lintian doesn't detect every desktop file issue ;-)16:55
Tonio_apachelogger: right16:56
Tonio_apachelogger: I have to go, but we'll make a point tomorrow for this, all will be fixed16:57
Tonio_patches for disk manager are partially done16:57
apacheloggerk16:57
apacheloggerTonio_: cya16:57
Tonio_bye ;)16:57
mhbthere is something rotten in the state of FOSS17:33
mhbfirst the GNOME internal wars, now KDE17:33
Riddelltwo grumpy people and some replies doesn't make for a rotten core17:33
coreymon77huh?17:33
coreymon77whats going on17:33
mhbRiddell: I was hinting at autumn mood, not rotten core17:34
coreymon77i should prob take my name off of the agenda for the next meeting huh?17:35
mhbI just like that Hamlet quote17:36
Riddellah, I'm not going to see Hamlet until next August so I didn't get the reference17:36
coreymon77btw17:36
coreymon77id love to come to the meeting tomorrow, but unfortunately i have an important driving lesson (my highway lesson) then17:37
apacheloggermhb: huh? kde? where?17:38
coreymon77and also, 11:00 utc in eastern is?17:38
apacheloggercoreymon77: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html17:39
mhbapachelogger: see dot.kde.org17:40
Riddelldot?17:40
coreymon77holy cow!17:40
coreymon776:00 in the morning!17:40
coreymon77sorry, cant come17:40
Riddellit's not a US friendly time I'm afraid17:41
apacheloggerwell17:41
Riddellnext meeting just make sure US people decide on the time :)17:41
apacheloggernot exactly cet friendly either :P17:41
apacheloggerlunch time17:41
Riddellyou're allowed to bring your lunch to the meeting, we won't mind17:42
apachelogger^_^17:42
apacheloggertalking about that... I think I might be hungry17:42
RiddellI recommend home made hummous17:42
coreymon77well17:43
coreymon77i cant come to this one17:43
coreymon77sorry17:43
coreymon77and theres the bell, back to class for me17:44
coreymon77bye guys17:44
apacheloggerhm17:45
apacheloggerttf-liberation made me stop revuing for today -.-17:46
Riddellapachelogger: why's that?17:47
apacheloggerRiddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ttf-liberation17:47
apacheloggerhave a look at the comment17:47
apacheloggerthat wasn't even a very close look17:47
Lureapachelogger: congrats on MOTU!17:48
* apachelogger heads downstairs to hunt something eatable17:48
apacheloggerLure: hehe, thanks :)17:48
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Lureapachelogger: I am expecting even more kde apps now ;-)17:49
Riddellapachelogger: by the way I find it a good idea to e-mail people after a revu since otherwise they may not see it17:49
apacheloggerRiddell: oh, true, thanks for the hint17:51
apacheloggerLure: well, I expect me and jpatrick to flood universe :D17:51
Lureapachelogger: I have seen that flood already started ;-)17:52
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jpatrickRiddell: .desktop fix for luks: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/kdebase-luks-desktop-install-fix.debdiff18:11
* bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.18:12
Riddelljpatrick: could you add a LUKS entry to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha1/Kubuntu18:12
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jpatrickRiddell: watch out, it has "Thu" in the date line18:13
Riddelljpatrick: fix it :)18:13
jpatrickwill do18:13
jpatrickRiddell: ok, reuploaded18:16
Riddelluploaded?18:17
jpatrickthe debdiff18:17
Riddellgroovy, uploading (to archive)18:19
* bobesponja_ is back.18:23
=== bobesponja_ is now known as bobesponja
* bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.18:23
Riddellbobesponja: gonnae no dae that18:23
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* bobesponja_ is back.18:24
Riddellbobesponja_: likewise18:24
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rouzichi all18:25
jpatrickhi rouzic18:25
rouzichi jpatrick18:26
jpatrickrouzic: reunion mañana!18:30
rouzicjpatrick: I know18:31
jpatrickgood...18:31
rouzicjpatrick: a que hora?18:33
jpatrickrouzic: 12 mediodia tiempo de España18:34
rouzicright :)18:35
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Tm_TMez: me a man? hah19:10
Tm_Tapachelogger: son19:15
apacheloggerTm_T: yes, mom?19:16
apacheloggerRiddell: can you get tastymenu past new now?19:45
apacheloggerupstream put a lgpl and gfdl in19:46
mhbsebas: it may sound silly, but there are people who support you as well as those who have a negative opinion21:53
mhbsebas: just because we stay silent we are happy about what you do21:53
mhberm, bad sentence :o) better one - we sometimes stay silent, but we are happy about what you do21:54
* apachelogger has no clue what mhb is talking about Oo21:54
mhbapachelogger: sebas comment on the dot was a bit depressing21:56
* apachelogger heads over21:57
=== uga|away is now known as uga
Riddelldavmor2: don't suppose you're awake?23:42
davmor2I am indeed :)23:42
Riddelldavmor2: new alternate ready to test if you fancy23:43
Riddelllive CD on its way23:43
davmor2Probably not testing it tonight but will certainly start the dl ready for an early start :023:44
davmor2:) even23:44
Riddellthanks23:44
davmor2np23:46
Riddellnew desktop cd out now23:48
davmor2sound rsyncing and then bedtiming :)23:48
davmor2nn23:49

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