[04:14] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/final   <-- anyone feel like playing it a few times...tell me if you have any problems with it
[04:21] <stdin> nixternal: works great in konqueror, not in firefox :p
[04:21] <nixternal> stdin: ya, doesn't work in the 2 worst browsers in the world
[04:21] <nixternal> firefox and ie
[04:21] <nixternal> works in konqi, opera, and safari
[04:21] <stdin> what a shame :p
[04:22] <nixternal> I don't feel like debugging that crap...I hate web browsers
[04:22] <vorian> lol
[04:22] <vorian> sniper
[04:22] <nixternal> ya, those are words the professor said we had to have
[04:25]  * Jucato waves
[04:26] <Jucato> Hobbsee: contentless ping :)
[04:27] <Hobbsee> You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.
[04:27] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:27] <Jucato> hahah I just love that response :)
[04:27] <Jucato> Hobbsee: fancy putting https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings in the channel topic? :)
[04:27] <Hobbsee> topic's not locked
[04:28] <Jucato> heeh ok :)
[04:28] <Jucato> woot! I changed the topic! I changed the topic! :D
[04:29] <Hobbsee> :D
[04:29] <Jucato> 11+8 = 19... 19-12 = 7... right?
[04:30] <Jucato> lol I'm doubting my own math :)
[04:30] <Hobbsee> ...yes
[04:30] <Jucato> 7pm for me :)
[04:30]  * Jucato hopes family's not having dinner by then...
[04:31] <claydoh> 6 am for me
[04:31] <claydoh> no, 7am i think
[04:32] <claydoh> ill be there to this time
[04:33] <Jucato> :)
[04:34] <Jucato> claydoh: good! I can take use as prosecution's witness for some of the stuff I put on the agenda :P
[04:34] <DaSkreech> hi all
[04:35] <Jucato> yo DaSkreeeeeeeeeech
[04:35] <claydoh> can I plead the 5th?
[04:35] <Jucato> nope :)
[04:35] <claydoh> umm or are we under international law :)
[04:35] <Jucato> yep
[04:38] <DaSkreech> nixternal: yay you Lose?
[04:38] <claydoh> I am havin a knee operation in JAn, and will be off my feet for at leat 2 weeks, maybe 3
[04:38] <nixternal> ya, you killed balmer, releasing the penguin! :p
[04:39] <claydoh> so i plan to learn enough packaging to whip one up of kmymoney2 cvs
[04:39] <DaSkreech> With megatron no less
[04:40]  * Jucato sighs... planet wars...
[04:41] <DaSkreech> I hope Unicron wins
[04:42] <Jucato> Unicorns win!!!
[04:49] <DaSkreech> :-P
[04:49] <DaSkreech> I meant Cybertron
[04:49] <DaSkreech> We all know that Golden ponies win
[04:52]  * Jucato wonders if Cybertron transforms/transformed into a giant robot too... a sort of arch-rivalry between Unicron and Cybertron :)
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Didn't Unicron become cybertron?
[04:53] <Jucato> unicron? lost his head and went the way of the big bang
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Ah
[04:53] <Jucato> at least in one of the movies... not sure if they made a remake somewhere
[05:06] <nixternal> Jucato: did you play HangBallmer yet? :p
[05:06] <nixternal> it works in everything but IE7...go figure
[05:06] <Jucato> lol
[05:06] <Jucato> not yet
[05:06] <Jucato> flash game?
[05:06] <nixternal> javascript
[05:06] <Jucato> oh :)
[05:06] <nixternal> http://www.nixternal.com/tmp/final
[05:07] <Jucato> goes to try
[05:09] <stdin> crashes firefox nicely :)
[05:09] <Jucato> nooo! I let him live!
[05:10] <nixternal> stdin: how is it crashing firefox?
[05:11] <stdin> nixternal: after hanging ballmer, it just hangs and FF eats all my CPU
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Works in FF for me
[05:11] <Jucato> lol! this is the only game where you win if you lose :)
[05:11] <nixternal> ok, that is an issue with the popups it seems
[05:12] <nixternal>  5001 nixterna  15   0  144m  63m  20m S  7.6  4.2   0:09.09 firefox-bin
[05:12] <nixternal> it doesn't bomb firefox, but it doesn't do anything until you click close
[05:13] <stdin>  1371 stdin     25   0  194m  74m  22m R 89.4  7.4   1:28.32 firefox-bin
[05:15] <Hobbsee> WFM.
[05:19] <Jucato> legally blonde the musical... now that's not something you hear/see everyday...
[05:19] <yuriy> evenin
[05:19] <yuriy> hey nixternal, how's web browsing in konqueror in kde4 been working for you?
[05:20] <nixternal> like crap
[05:20] <Jucato> :)
[05:20]  * Jucato keeps on using konqueror3
[05:20] <yuriy> oh :( i was hoping the konqueror problems were fixed, then i'd get it set up as my main desktop
[05:20] <Jucato> not that I have a choice, since konvi and kdepim are run from my kde3 user :)
[05:21] <Jucato> yuriy: you can,just keep on using konqueror3 :)
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I hope I don't hear it every day!!
[05:52] <DaSkreech> nixternal: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/26/1341239
[05:52] <DaSkreech> First comment
[06:36] <DaSkreech> G'night
[08:43] <sebastian> good morning everybody
[08:43] <Jucato> s/morning/afternoon/
[08:44] <Jucato> good morning to you too :)
[08:48] <sebastian> afternoon, ... are there other times than cet ... ;)
[10:12]  * Jucato yawns, runs around the room, and goes out the door.
[10:23] <aplg|moblie_> sebas: wtf is cet?
[10:23]  * aplg|moblie_ only knows utc
[11:04] <Riddell> aplg|moblie_: european time, UTC+1
[11:10] <aplg|moblie_> aye ^_^
[11:11]  * Hobbsee wonders why multiple parts of the kdepim merge got bunged up.
[11:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: hi ;)
[11:34] <Riddell> salut Tonio_
[11:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm just packaging disk manager
[11:34] <Riddell> Tonio_: what's that?
[11:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: we really should consider using this
[11:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: kde qtparted
[11:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: part of the alice project
[11:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: good points is that it is maintained andkde native app
[11:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Disk+Manager?content=70149
[11:36] <Riddell> alice project?
[11:38] <Riddell> looks promising
[11:38] <Riddell> mhb might be interested in it, he was looking at paritioning apps
[11:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: it is :)
[11:41] <Tonio_> can someone please take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=kpar2 ? ;)
[11:58] <Riddell> (preferably not me since then I can't New it)
[12:11] <Nightrose> nixternal: haha nice game ;-)
[12:22] <apachelogger_> Tonio_: ehm, I already do :P
[12:22] <apachelogger_> or rather
[12:22] <apachelogger_> did :P
[12:23] <apachelogger_> upstream needs to add a copying.lib though
[12:32] <apachelogger> Tonio_: about kpar2 ... Homepage is now an own tag .. current standards is 3.7.2.2
[12:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, how long does the processing of a motu application usually take?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> oh yes, i should read that mail
[12:37]  * Hobbsee +1's, with comments about licencing.
[12:39] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: waiting on crimsun, ajmitch, and soren to respond (or a subset of them, i think)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> however, i suspect they were waiting on people like me to repsond
[12:39] <apachelogger> hehe, k :)
[12:42] <Riddell> Hobbsee: KDE 4 packages have had licencing problems?
[12:43] <Riddell> KDE packages in general have due to not including all the licence texts and other bits, but apachelogger is about the best at spotting that
[12:46] <Tonio_> apachelogger: no copying.lib for kpar2, as there is no lgpl stuff in it
[12:46] <Tonio_> apachelogger: will fix the version
[12:47] <Tonio_> apachelogger: what do you mean by "own tag" ?
[12:47] <Tonio_> apachelogger: have an example ?
[12:47] <aplg|mobile> Tonio_: Homepage: Blah right below Standards-version
[12:48] <Tonio_> aplg|mobile: hum, oki, I missed that new thing ;)
[12:48] <Tonio_> apachelogger: fixing
[12:48] <aplg|mobile> k
[12:48] <aplg|mobile> Hobbsee: about the licensing -> diskman's copyright file: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/147001
[12:49]  * aplg|mobile actually thinks he improved on that stuff lately ;-)
[12:49] <aplg|mobile> afk, lunch
[12:49] <Hobbsee> aplg|mobile:
[12:49] <Hobbsee> #
[12:49] <Hobbsee> License:
[12:49] <Hobbsee> probably needs to be filled in, too
[12:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: can you drop uploads waiting in NEW ?
[12:50] <Tonio_> Riddell: looks like I dputed to ubuntu instead of revu.....
[12:50] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: what did you want dropped?
[12:50] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: kpar2
[12:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: should be revued before upload ;)
[12:51] <Hobbsee> hehe, indeed
[12:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: can you ?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> yes
[12:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: that's nice ;)
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: rejected.
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: yeah, it's one of the few thigns i can do :)
[12:52] <Tonio_> ho yeah you're archive manager now :)
[12:52] <Hobbsee> one of, yes
[12:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: you can do much more than me now ;)
[12:52] <Tonio_> I'll call you "boss" in the future :)
[12:53] <Hobbsee> hah
[12:53]  * Jucato thought she was boss already...
[12:53] <Jucato> hi Tonio_ :)
[12:53] <Hobbsee> aplg|mobile: looks better
[12:53] <Hobbsee> aplg|mobile: was thinking in terms of the khaki stuff
[12:54] <Jucato> Tonio_: Disk Manager is just a partition editor? not something like mountconfig?
[12:54] <Tonio_> Jucato: qtparted like
[12:54] <Tonio_> Jucato: currently working on the package
[12:54] <Jucato> ah
[12:55] <Tonio_> Jucato: but that's (good point) a real kde application
[12:55] <Tonio_> qtparted is unmaintained and not a kde application
[12:55] <Jucato> yep :)
[12:55] <Riddell> Tonio_: err, it disappeared
[12:56] <Jucato> Tonio_: hopefully it will stay maintained :)
[12:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: what dissapeared ? kpar2 ? I suspect Hobbsee dropped it
[12:56] <Tonio_> Jucato: it is part if a very active and interesting project, called alice
[12:57] <Tonio_> Jucato: remember that x.org config tool that we discuss a few weeks ago ?
[12:57] <Tonio_> Jucato: part of the same project
[12:57]  * Hobbsee killed it.
[12:57] <Jucato> you killed alice? O.o
[12:57] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: merci beaucoup chef !
[12:57] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: chef is french for boss, fyi
[12:58] <Jucato> darn!
[12:58] <Jucato> you just made me delete a whole sentence :)
[12:58]  * Jucato was about to ask that :P
[12:58] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:58] <Tonio_> Jucato: talking about that, we didn't do any french speaking day for a long time now :)
[12:58] <Tonio_> Jucato: Riddell is pretty good at speaking french ;)
[12:58] <Jucato> hehe yeah :)
[12:59] <Jucato> oooh really? :)
[12:59] <Riddell> moi?
[12:59] <Jucato> oui!
[13:00] <Tonio_> bien sur toi ! tu parles très bien français !
[13:00] <Tonio_> daniel holbach is pretty good too
[13:00] <Tonio_> understands very well
[13:01] <aplg|mobile> Hobbsee: well, khalkhi was around the time you admins decided to drop packages without a lgpl copy in the sources I think :P
[13:02] <Hobbsee> aplg|mobile: i wasnt an admin at that time
[13:02] <Jucato> ah I know tres bien :)
[13:02]  * Jucato resists the urge to sound stupid and say "three good!"
[13:02] <Jucato> :P
[13:03] <aplg|mobile> Hobbsee: well, I just want to say that I wasn't used to check for the complete copies
[13:03] <Hobbsee> aplg|mobile: oh, i see what you mean.  i'm just saying it's not my fault, per se :)
[13:05] <aplg|mobile> Hobbsee: hehe, if it is anyones fault, it's upstreams ;-)
[13:06] <Hobbsee> yes, they'll do for being blamed
[13:10] <Riddell> apachelogger is now a motu?  I only saw one motu council vote
[13:10] <Riddell> the process for this changes so frequently I lose track :)
[13:10] <Riddell> congratulations apachelogger!
[13:10] <Riddell> don't forget to do lots of merges
[13:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: thanks, gotta start with merging asap :)
[13:12] <Jucato> here they come!
[13:12] <jjesse> here who come?
[13:12] <jjesse> -/
[13:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning disk manager, I don't really know what to do with the deps
[13:13] <Jucato> you! :)
[13:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: lots of things are optional, but imho should be installed by default, as this is for example loosing people with qtparted
[13:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: for example depends on xfsprogs, instead of recommends....
[13:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: what's your opinion about that ?
[13:14] <Tonio_> Riddell: imho the maximum things should be supported out of the box
[13:14] <apachelogger> hm
[13:14] <apachelogger> Tonio_: you read that I have an almost finished package? :P
[13:16] <apachelogger> btw, I think out of the box we should support the ubuntu defaults
[13:16] <apachelogger> maybe +ntfs
[13:16] <Tonio_> apachelogger: are you packaging this too ?
[13:17] <Tonio_> apachelogger: here is the list of optional packages:
[13:17] <Tonio_> hfsutils util-linux xfsprogs mount xfsdump e2fsprogs dosfstools reiserfsprogs jfsutils e2fsprogs ntfsprogs reiser4progs dosfstools udev
[13:17] <apachelogger> Tonio_: #173016
[13:17] <Tonio_> apachelogger: hum okay
[13:17] <Tonio_> apachelogger: we also have to patch the sources to remove the top banner
[13:17] <Tonio_> apachelogger: useless and doesn't respect kde apps HIG
[13:17] <apachelogger> well, maybe we can ask upstream to do so
[13:18] <apachelogger> he needs to add a copying.lib anyway
[13:18] <Tonio_> apachelogger: they won't, as they do for all alice apps
[13:18] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I don't see any problem in removing this, that respects the gpl
[13:18] <apachelogger> sure, but every patch we have to maintain is one patch too much IMO
[13:19] <Tonio_> apachelogger: maybe follow what gparted does
[13:19] <Tonio_> apachelogger: so depends on everything but suggests xfsprogs, reiserfsprogs, reiser4progs, jfsutils, ntfsprogs
[13:19] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I'd say recommends for those
[13:20] <Tonio_> Depends: util-linux, mount, e2fsprogs, udev
[13:20] <apachelogger> yeah, that's kinda what I had in mind
[13:20] <Tonio_> Recommends: hfsutils, xfsprogs, xfsdump,dosfstools, reiserfsprogs, jfsutils, ntfsprogs, reiser4progs, dosfstools
[13:20]  * apachelogger hacks up a desktop file
[13:21] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I greped the all code about that, so the list of tools should be complete
[13:21] <apachelogger> ok, thanks
[13:21] <Tonio_> apachelogger: that the Darth Vader thing you talked about yesterday hehe :)
[13:22] <Tonio_> apachelogger: now I understand
[13:22] <Tonio_> apachelogger: ping me once packaging is done, I'll revu that one
[13:22] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I tested this and we really need that one in main replacing qtparted
[13:22] <apachelogger> agreed
[13:22] <apachelogger> Tonio_: I'll upload it to revu once upstream released a tarball with copying.lib
[13:22] <Tonio_> apachelogger: want me to write the no banner patch ?
[13:23] <Tonio_> apachelogger: oki
[13:23] <apachelogger> Tonio_: if you have time, sure :)
[13:23] <Tonio_> apachelogger: you can rebuild the tarball with copying.lib and mention in the changelog that upstream has been pingued about
[13:23] <Tonio_> apachelogger: also the locales thing is a bit strange....
[13:23] <apachelogger> totally
[13:23] <Tonio_> apachelogger: have you tested this ?
[13:24] <apachelogger> nope
[13:24] <Tonio_> I'm unsure we get the translations
[13:24] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I'll have a look at that
[13:24] <apachelogger> k
[13:25] <Tonio_> apachelogger: that's un compatible with rosetta, maybe we should consider patching for standard gmo/po translations.....
[13:25] <apachelogger> again, maybe we can get upstream to do that?
[13:27] <Riddell> Tonio_: make it depend on anything in main, recommend others
[13:28] <Tonio_> Riddell: ok
[13:28] <Tonio_> apachelogger: then depends on everything :)
[13:28] <Tonio_> Depends: util-linux, mount, e2fsprogs, udev, hfsutils, xfsprogs, xfsdump,dosfstools, reiserfsprogs, jfsutils, ntfsprogs, reiser4progs, dosfstools
[13:28] <apachelogger> well
[13:29] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I'll give you too patches today : no banner patch and maybe french translation
[13:29] <apachelogger> I see no reason why a normal user (as in non-geek) needs to have 100% support for jfs for example
[13:30] <Tonio_> apachelogger: would that make it complicated for them ? I don't think so
[13:30] <Tonio_> apachelogger: normal users don't need those tools btw
[13:30] <apachelogger> nah, but waste space
[13:30] <Tonio_> apachelogger: those tools are very little
[13:30] <Tonio_> apachelogger: and this is not meant to be part of the default install btw
[13:30] <apachelogger> fair enough
[13:33] <Tonio_> apachelogger: oki seya for the patches :)
[13:40] <Tonio_> apachelogger: my concern is really the translation process.....
[13:41] <Tonio_> apachelogger: they are mostly empty now, but it should be possible to generate a pot file and get it in rosetta
[13:41] <Tonio_> apachelogger: will you patch admin/cvs.sh for rosetta ?
[13:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: partitioning tools are not on the whole for normal users
[13:41] <Tonio_> apachelogger: that will probably reach main, so we need the patch
[13:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: ++
[13:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: will rosetta work if there is no .pot in the sources as long as it is patched ?
[13:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: I suspect the sources have to be patched to load a .gmo catalog right ?
[13:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: translations are .ts files based
[13:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: can hardly work with rosetta I suspect.... :)
[13:43] <Riddell> rosetta doesn't talk .ts
[13:44] <Riddell> does this app use kdelibs?
[13:44] <apachelogger> Tonio_: how to generate a pot with i18n()? -.-
[13:45] <apachelogger> bah .svn in admin directory
[13:45] <Tonio_> apachelogger: sh admin/cvs.sh extract-messages
[13:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: it does but not for i18n things
[13:46] <Riddell> silly of it
[13:47] <Riddell> no point us changing it to KDE's gettext, just poke upstream that it would be a good idea
[13:48] <apachelogger> agree on that
[13:50] <jjesse> did i miss an email or did the alpha1 cd come out?
[13:50] <Riddell> not as far as I know
[13:52] <davmor2> Riddell: Alternative still not working it is crashing out because of a Kaffeine conflict.  I'll try it with ovaltene and see if it calms down :)
[13:53] <Riddell> davmor2: I just uploaded a new meta package for that
[13:53] <Riddell> so I'll wait for that and make new CDs
[13:53] <davmor2> okay cool
[14:19] <Riddell> kwwii: did ruphy get those wallpapers?
[14:19] <kwwii> Riddell: yeah, he said he would tell you where to download them
[14:19] <kwwii> let me remind him
[14:21] <Riddell> "Accepted: webkitkde" whee
[14:21] <apachelogger> Tonio_: package is done
[14:21] <Riddell> nixternal: there you go (it's got plenty of problems, but it's a start)
[14:22] <apachelogger> Tonio_: are you going to mail upstream about the translation stuff? if so please also mention to remove admin/.svn and add COPYING.LIB
[14:22] <apachelogger> did that myself for now
[14:22] <Riddell> Tonio_: "webkit is way better than khtml" is arguable, the difference is that webkit is bug compatible with safari
[14:30] <Riddell> hi jpatrick, I got that monster LUKS patch in
[14:31] <jpatrick> Riddell: thanks, it has a slight problem with it not including it's new .desktop files, waiting for PPA for testing now
[14:31] <Tonio_> Riddell: have tried to play with ajax apps like roundcube ?
[14:31] <jpatrick> hopefully we'll have LUKS support by tonight :)
[14:31] <Tonio_> NOTHING works in konqueror on that poin t
[14:32] <Tonio_> I have seen bugs on yahoo, gmail, all new modern webservices
[14:32] <Tonio_> opera and safari works on those
[14:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: better doesn't mean better codebase
[14:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: I meant "works in the real world"
[14:33] <Riddell> Tonio_: sure that's my point.  but just saying "better" will make the khtml developers grumpy since in various ways khtml is better
[14:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: let's say "adapted to modern web brosing" then ;)
[14:35] <Tonio_> Riddell: I just needed to troll a bit, sorry for that :)
[14:45] <jpatrick> Riddell: by the way, can you get tork passed New?
[14:55] <apachelogger> Tonio_: typo in karp2 control repairation vs. reparation
[14:55] <jpatrick> apachelogger: congrats!
[14:56] <apachelogger> jpatrick: thanks :)
[14:56] <apachelogger> I guess we now can flood universe with KWare :D
[14:57] <apachelogger> Tonio_: also have a look at the desktop file http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/147250 ... at least as much that lintian shuts up ;-)
[14:59] <apachelogger> Tonio_: + adding the docbook/manpage copyright and license to copyright file might not be too bad
[15:06] <bddebian> Heya
[15:08] <DaSkreech> sup?
[15:09] <bddebian> Nada, you?
[15:11] <Riddell> ah, modern urban colloquialisms
[15:12] <Jucato> heh :)
[15:36] <davmor2> Riddell: any news on the new images?
[15:37] <Riddell> davmor2: still waiting on kubuntu-meta to enter the archive
[15:38] <davmor2> okay ta.  Can you give heno or me a shout when it is good to test please :)
[15:40] <Riddell> sure
[15:41] <davmor2> ta muchly
[15:45] <nixternal> apachelogger: congrats! now you can leave jpatrick alone, which in turn leaves me alone :p
[15:45] <nixternal> Riddell: rock on with webkit! :)
[15:45] <apachelogger> lol
[15:45] <DaSkreech> webkit supporter?
[15:46]  * nixternal goes to see how much more dirty laundry is being aired on the planets today
[15:46] <apachelogger> nixternal: thanks though
[15:46] <nixternal> DaSkreech: big time webkit supporter
[15:46] <DaSkreech> ok :-)
[15:46] <DaSkreech> all I want is inserted hotkeys back and i'm ok
[15:46] <apachelogger> meh
[15:46] <Jucato> boo!
[15:46]  * Jucato runs
[15:46] <Jucato> apachelogger: congratulations btw
[15:47] <apachelogger> awful if someone calls you while you're at revuing -.-
[15:47]  * apachelogger forgot where he was
[15:47] <apachelogger> Jucato: thanks :)
[15:48] <apachelogger> Mez: omg, I think I default to nazi revu mode :S
[15:48] <Mez> apachelogger, you became motu ?
[15:49] <DaSkreech> I don't know if that's konqui or KHTMl but I want t back
[15:49] <DaSkreech> Which ever combo gives me that I'll use :)
[15:49] <DaSkreech> hi Mez
[15:49] <Mez> hey DaSkreech
[15:49] <apachelogger> Mez: yep
[15:50] <Mez> apachelogger, congrats, now I don't get bother either ;)
[15:50]  * Mez whistles
[15:50] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: what's inserted hotkeys?
[15:50] <Mez> and Nazi Revu is good ;) I taught you well you padwan
[15:50] <apachelogger> indeed
[15:50] <apachelogger> muhahahahaha
[15:50] <Mez> btw, I am your father
[15:51] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: When you are browsing a website if you press ^ then it makes up hotkeys for the links and shows them on the page
[15:51] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Wow good thing you made Solo get the girl huh?
[15:51] <apachelogger> Mez: you made sweet love with Tm_T?
[15:51]  * apachelogger imagines awful things
[15:51] <Mez> apachelogger,  ?? ?
[15:51]  * Mez is confused
[15:51] <apachelogger> Tm_T is my mom!!!
[15:52] <Mez> o_O
[15:52] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: oh, ah well, press CTRL
[15:52] <Mez> I thought Tm_T was male. ...
[15:52] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: Yes I just said that
[15:52] <apachelogger> DaSkreech: that's a KHTML feature btw
[15:52] <Mez> yeah, accesskeys ftw
[15:52] <apachelogger> webkitty doesn't do taht
[15:52] <Mez> very useful when I'm feeling lazy
[15:52] <DaSkreech> apachelogger: damnit! I wonder if it will be hacked into the fruity HTML
[15:52] <apachelogger> Mez: so Tm_T can't be my mom because he's mail? Oo
[15:53] <Mez> apachelogger, I got 2 hours sleep last night
[15:53] <apachelogger> haha!
[15:53] <DaSkreech> sh e-mail ?
[15:53] <Mez> dont confuse me, my brain'll asplode
[15:53] <apachelogger> <-- 4
[15:53] <Mez> :P
[15:53] <Mez> <-- also won £160
[15:53] <apachelogger> <-- spent € 10.12
[15:54] <nixternal> <-- will work for food
[15:54] <apachelogger> Tm_T: once you have time, you might tell Dad that you're my mom
[15:54] <mhb> hello folks
[15:55] <nixternal> howdy mhb
[15:55]  * apachelogger gives mhb a beer
[15:55] <mhb> how are you?
[15:55] <apachelogger> ahoy!
[15:55] <mhb> apachelogger: thanks, that is nice of you, but I dont drink alcohol, actually.
[15:55] <nixternal> slowly waking up and working up the energy to get ready for a nice trek to the uni
[15:55] <mhb> apachelogger: ahoy to you too
[15:55] <apachelogger> -.-
[15:56] <apachelogger> really, how did the nerds2.0 became non-alcohol drinking
[15:56] <Jucato> ola mhb
[15:56] <apachelogger> this is just not originial :P
[15:57] <apachelogger> mhb: maybe I can interest you in a cup of tea?
[15:59] <DaSkreech> Is there a webkit channel?
[15:59] <apachelogger> #safari maybe :P
[16:00] <DaSkreech> That just has lions and tigers and beers!
[16:00] <DaSkreech> and I don't drink
[16:00] <DaSkreech> :)
[16:01] <mhb> apachelogger: I am sorry, it was a design decision
[16:02] <mhb> apachelogger: I like to live my life to the full, without being artificially influenced too much
[16:04] <apachelogger> mhb: makes perfect sense... you have to know I also was a teetotaler some time ago
[16:04]  * apachelogger got into bad influence though :|
[16:05] <apachelogger> it's all \sh_away's fault :P
[16:05] <mhb> continuing my Harry Potter analogies, /me is not among muggles anymore
[16:07] <mhb> apachelogger: I am tolerant enough, dont worry
[16:25] <nixternal> anyone have any ideas as to why when running apt-get upgrade or what not, it will freeze at certain steps? anyone experienced this before?
[16:26] <Riddell> not I
[16:26] <nixternal> I can't figure this one out...it has been happening for a while now
[16:26] <nixternal> it leaves a 'dpkg <defunct>' in the processes as well
[16:27] <mhb> nixternal: not me
[16:45] <apachelogger> nixternal: considering you have to time: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tastymenu
[16:45] <apachelogger> +how to upload anyway?
[16:51] <Tonio_> apachelogger: manpage is part of the packaging, and the licence of packaging is already in there for kpart2
[16:52] <Tonio_> I really don't want to override lintian
[16:52] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I really consider overriding litian hypopcrit practices
[16:52] <apachelogger> oh
[16:52] <apachelogger> I didn't say you shall override lintian
[16:52] <apachelogger> you shall fix the desktop file :P
[16:52] <Tonio_> hum, oki ;)
[16:53] <Tonio_> are there warnings ? I looked yeserday and didn't saw anything..... I was tired :)
[16:53] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I'll fixed this then :)
[16:53] <apachelogger> Tonio_: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/147250
[16:53] <davmor2> Riddell: I'm going to be afk for a while so at this point let heno know when it's safe to test ta :)
[16:54] <Tonio_> package will be done tomorrow, as well as patches for diskmanager
[16:54] <Tonio_> apachelogger: thanks for the report, that'll be fixed.... true I didn't look carefully enough to the desktop file....
[16:54]  * apachelogger also forgets that all the time
[16:55] <Tonio_> well I lintian on the source package, not always on the deb file
[16:55] <Tonio_> that's my problem with packaging :)
[16:55] <Tonio_> I should include add a lintian hook to pbuilder
[16:55] <apachelogger> hehe, I do it for both, but the problem is ... as we can see from the paste, lintian doesn't detect every desktop file issue ;-)
[16:56] <Tonio_> apachelogger: right
[16:57] <Tonio_> apachelogger: I have to go, but we'll make a point tomorrow for this, all will be fixed
[16:57] <Tonio_> patches for disk manager are partially done
[16:57] <apachelogger> k
[16:57] <apachelogger> Tonio_: cya
[16:57] <Tonio_> bye ;)
[17:33] <mhb> there is something rotten in the state of FOSS
[17:33] <mhb> first the GNOME internal wars, now KDE
[17:33] <Riddell> two grumpy people and some replies doesn't make for a rotten core
[17:33] <coreymon77> huh?
[17:33] <coreymon77> whats going on
[17:34] <mhb> Riddell: I was hinting at autumn mood, not rotten core
[17:35] <coreymon77> i should prob take my name off of the agenda for the next meeting huh?
[17:36] <mhb> I just like that Hamlet quote
[17:36] <Riddell> ah, I'm not going to see Hamlet until next August so I didn't get the reference
[17:36] <coreymon77> btw
[17:37] <coreymon77> id love to come to the meeting tomorrow, but unfortunately i have an important driving lesson (my highway lesson) then
[17:38] <apachelogger> mhb: huh? kde? where?
[17:38] <coreymon77> and also, 11:00 utc in eastern is?
[17:39] <apachelogger> coreymon77: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html
[17:40] <mhb> apachelogger: see dot.kde.org
[17:40] <Riddell> dot?
[17:40] <coreymon77> holy cow!
[17:40] <coreymon77> 6:00 in the morning!
[17:40] <coreymon77> sorry, cant come
[17:41] <Riddell> it's not a US friendly time I'm afraid
[17:41] <apachelogger> well
[17:41] <Riddell> next meeting just make sure US people decide on the time :)
[17:41] <apachelogger> not exactly cet friendly either :P
[17:41] <apachelogger> lunch time
[17:42] <Riddell> you're allowed to bring your lunch to the meeting, we won't mind
[17:42] <apachelogger> ^_^
[17:42] <apachelogger> talking about that... I think I might be hungry
[17:42] <Riddell> I recommend home made hummous
[17:43] <coreymon77> well
[17:43] <coreymon77> i cant come to this one
[17:43] <coreymon77> sorry
[17:44] <coreymon77> and theres the bell, back to class for me
[17:44] <coreymon77> bye guys
[17:45] <apachelogger> hm
[17:46] <apachelogger> ttf-liberation made me stop revuing for today -.-
[17:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: why's that?
[17:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ttf-liberation
[17:47] <apachelogger> have a look at the comment
[17:47] <apachelogger> that wasn't even a very close look
[17:48] <Lure> apachelogger: congrats on MOTU!
[17:48]  * apachelogger heads downstairs to hunt something eatable
[17:48] <apachelogger> Lure: hehe, thanks :)
[17:49] <Lure> apachelogger: I am expecting even more kde apps now ;-)
[17:49] <Riddell> apachelogger: by the way I find it a good idea to e-mail people after a revu since otherwise they may not see it
[17:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: oh, true, thanks for the hint
[17:51] <apachelogger> Lure: well, I expect me and jpatrick to flood universe :D
[17:52] <Lure> apachelogger: I have seen that flood already started ;-)
[18:11] <jpatrick> Riddell: .desktop fix for luks: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/kdebase-luks-desktop-install-fix.debdiff
[18:12]  * bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.
[18:12] <Riddell> jpatrick: could you add a LUKS entry to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha1/Kubuntu
[18:13] <jpatrick> Riddell: watch out, it has "Thu" in the date line
[18:13] <Riddell> jpatrick: fix it :)
[18:13] <jpatrick> will do
[18:16] <jpatrick> Riddell: ok, reuploaded
[18:17] <Riddell> uploaded?
[18:17] <jpatrick> the debdiff
[18:19] <Riddell> groovy, uploading (to archive)
[18:23]  * bobesponja_ is back.
[18:23]  * bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.
[18:23] <Riddell> bobesponja: gonnae no dae that
[18:24]  * bobesponja_ is back.
[18:24] <Riddell> bobesponja_: likewise
[18:25] <rouzic> hi all
[18:25] <jpatrick> hi rouzic
[18:26] <rouzic> hi jpatrick
[18:30] <jpatrick> rouzic: reunion mañana!
[18:31] <rouzic> jpatrick: I know
[18:31] <jpatrick> good...
[18:33] <rouzic> jpatrick: a que hora?
[18:34] <jpatrick> rouzic: 12 mediodia tiempo de España
[18:35] <rouzic> right :)
[19:10] <Tm_T> Mez: me a man? hah
[19:15] <Tm_T> apachelogger: son
[19:16] <apachelogger> Tm_T: yes, mom?
[19:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: can you get tastymenu past new now?
[19:46] <apachelogger> upstream put a lgpl and gfdl in
[21:53] <mhb> sebas: it may sound silly, but there are people who support you as well as those who have a negative opinion
[21:53] <mhb> sebas: just because we stay silent we are happy about what you do
[21:54] <mhb> erm, bad sentence :o) better one - we sometimes stay silent, but we are happy about what you do
[21:54]  * apachelogger has no clue what mhb is talking about Oo
[21:56] <mhb> apachelogger: sebas comment on the dot was a bit depressing
[21:57]  * apachelogger heads over
[23:42] <Riddell> davmor2: don't suppose you're awake?
[23:42] <davmor2> I am indeed :)
[23:43] <Riddell> davmor2: new alternate ready to test if you fancy
[23:43] <Riddell> live CD on its way
[23:44] <davmor2> Probably not testing it tonight but will certainly start the dl ready for an early start :0
[23:44] <davmor2> :) even
[23:44] <Riddell> thanks
[23:46] <davmor2> np
[23:48] <Riddell> new desktop cd out now
[23:48] <davmor2> sound rsyncing and then bedtiming :)
[23:49] <davmor2> nn