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TopAgentI have dnlded unzip and it is not in the same place as the zip file... I click on the zip file and it asks what program to open with... unzip is not in the list00:01
NarissaTopAgent: when you open konsole you will be in yoru home directory, you will then use cd (directory name) of rcd .. to navigate between folders00:01
NarissaTopAgent: it's a terminal program00:02
NarissaTopAgent: rcd = cd sorry for the mistype00:02
TopAgenti understand that but when i am in the term     cd to the zip file or to the unzip file00:02
NarissaTopAgent: the file you want to unzip00:03
NarissaTopAgent: then you will type unzip (file name)00:03
TopAgentand I thought ubuntu was fully automatic00:04
TopAgentthx00:04
TopAgentbrb00:04
NarissaTopAgent: ark I believe supports it as well, which has a gui00:04
NarissaTopAgent: I apologize I am more of a konsole user than a gui user when it comes to extracting files00:05
xoqakonqueror goes full screen in then presents a very small screen which looks like there should be some video there00:06
xoqatrying to get flash player to work00:06
xoqait's always been straightforward, don't understand what the problem is00:07
Narissaxoqa: what version distro are you running?00:07
xoqanot sure00:08
Narissagutsy, feisty, dapper?00:08
xoqagutsy i think00:08
xoqahow do you find out for sure?00:09
xoqagutsy gibbon00:10
Narissaxoqa: in konsole uname -a00:10
Narissaalright searching00:10
xoqauname -a: Linux 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux00:11
Narissaxoqa: yeah gutsy00:12
xoqaoh00:12
Narissaxoqa: one sec checking out some info for ya00:12
kub^Narissa: got the moose working now thanks for the linky :)00:12
xoqaNarissa:  thanks :)00:12
Narissakub: no worries happy scrolling 8)00:12
Narissaxoqa: do you have konqueror-nsplugins installed.  you can check this by searching in synaptic00:15
xoqadon't think so00:15
xoqayes i do00:16
xoqaNarissa ^00:16
Narissaxoqa: install it and see if that fix's it.  that is what a lot of pages are saying00:16
Narissaxoqa: hrmmm00:16
newguys1Hi, my computer keeps disconnecting from the internet, plus its not playing actors voice in many movies00:18
newguys1the funny part is that when I play the movie I hear everything except the actors voice00:19
Narissaxoqa: sorry abtout hat lost net connection00:19
xoqano prob00:19
xoqaNarissa ^00:19
Narissaxoqa: do you have vlc installed?00:21
xoqano00:21
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TopAgentok now that everything looks to be inflated and created and extracted,,,,,,where can I find the program?00:22
xoqa*grabs vlc*00:22
Narissaxoqa: yeah see if vlc works for ya00:22
NarissaTopAgent: I checked to make sure, you CAN use ark which is a basic part of the install now to extract teh file.00:23
NarissaTopAgent: just right click teh file you want to extract from, and open with ark00:23
NarissaTopAgent: should work from there00:23
TopAgentwell I extracted it and am looking for the program but cant find anything00:24
TopAgentwith unzip00:24
NarissaTopAgent: should be in the same directory, or if teh zip file had a directory structure it will be there00:24
xoqaNarissa: where would the vlc plugins folder be located?00:25
Narissaxoqa: just use synaptic to get them00:25
Narissaxoqa: search vlc and you'll see a nice happy list all starting with vlc00:25
xoqai've already installed it00:26
Narissaxoqa: I was refering to the plugins which can be installed after vlc00:26
TopAgentthe name of this file is realestate-management-tool-code.zip and it extracted like 100 files and I cant begin to know where to go to execute the program00:28
Narissaxoqa: the mozilla-plugin-vlc one I would advise as well for ya, since konqueror is gecko as well if memory serves00:28
xoqakonqueror has switched to gecko?00:29
Greeneryeh Konqueror is using khtml00:29
TopAgentthere is a lot of .xml files00:30
NarissaTopAgent: that's teh program files right there, I don't know anything about the program you are trying to run however, but it did extract00:30
Narissaxoqa: sorry I stand corrected, been a long day and I have lots of work to do 8) LOL.  try doing youtube now00:31
TopAgentyes it did extract but how to use it or activate it..  are .xml files linux or windows based file ext?00:31
fsckrin a default install is there a place to enable compiz-fusion in kubuntu?00:32
mox69is there any easy method for updating my kubuntu dapper install to the latest version of kubuntu?00:32
NarissaTopAgent: xml is fairly universal00:32
xoqaNarissa: it isn't working. i'm waiting on konqueror to scan all of /usr/share and /usr/lib right now for new plugins00:32
blackwaltz_mox69: probably easier to do a clean install ... but the recommended method is to first upgrade to edgy, then to00:32
blackwaltz_feisty, then to gutsy00:33
Narissaxoqa: it should find something, or at least the presence of the program00:33
mox69hmm i figured clean install was the best way00:33
TopAgentthis is supposed to be a realestate client tracking and sales program similar to the windows based programs00:34
TopAgentI dont see it of any use as it is... Dont know if I did something wrong or what00:34
NarissaTopAgent: again I am unfamiliar what's the name of teh program?00:34
TopAgent realestate-management-tool-code.zip00:34
mox69how about this, which of the latest version supports laptops (wpa, usb2, bluetooth, battery usage, etc) better kubuntu or regular ubuntu?00:35
blackwaltz_mox69: should be the same00:35
NarissaTopAgent: is there a file somewhere in there called INSTALL ?00:35
TopAgenthttp://linux.softpedia.com/get/Information-Management/Real-Estate-Management-Software-2900.shtml00:36
TopAgentill check00:36
mox69ok good, i prefer kde anyway. I was just really impressed with the gutsy ubuntu install I did on my desktop the other day00:36
Narissamox69: I agree with blackwaltz, the difference in ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu etc. is mostly the initial desktop gnome, kde, etc..00:36
mox69alright thats kinda what i figured00:37
blackwaltz_mox69: the only minus I can see is knetworkmanager doesn't impress me much ....00:37
TopAgentno00:37
TopAgentnone there00:37
xoqa*sigh* nothing00:37
takpecom esteu?00:38
mox69yea that was my main problem with dapper kubuntu, i spent about 10 hours getting WPA working on my wifi00:38
mox69i use knetmanager now, it works alright I guess00:38
blackwaltz_mox69: shouldn't be a problem ... the only beefs I've got with it are that sometimes it doesn't behave if you have it in manual mode ... it often seems to mis things if I were to ifdown the connection or flip the wireless switch it doesn't always notice, and the other, nastiest thing is that it still doesn't have a solid way other that modfiying the /etc/network/interfaces file by hand to switch back to roaming mode00:40
TopAgentI understand know,,,,  THis is software to be run from a SERVER   there is a readme file that came with the extraction...  I guess Ill have to give it up as I dont have a server and I wouldn't know how to set one up....  BUT THANK YOU for trying so hard to help me...00:40
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NarissaTopAgent: no worries and for future record now ark can just unzip things for you 8)00:40
TopAgentgotta download it00:41
mox69yes ive ran into issues a few times when I needed a static ip addres, but I have learned to deal with the issues that have come up00:41
Narissahey black xoqa is trying to get youtube to work right in konq and I've walked him through vlc, you got any ideas00:41
NarissaTopAgent: should be there already, if not it's not a bad thing to have gui wise00:41
mox69I have found mplayer works the best for embedded stuff...for me anyway00:41
Narissathink you guys can help with this one?00:42
mox69xoqa: have you tried mplayer yet?00:42
xoqanot yet00:42
mox69ok give me a sec i will get the names of what i have installed00:42
josephso, yeah.  suddenly, when i hold down the down arrow to scroll through a web document, it doesn't scroll; it just moves one line, every time i press the button.  am i missing something?00:43
mox69xoqa: download and install "kmplayer-base" and "kmplayer-konq-plugins"00:43
blackwaltz_youtube in konqeror eh Narissa? Probably need to "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree"00:45
mox69ahh yes just gonna say that00:45
mox69you need flashplayer mainly00:45
xoqamox69: kmplayer-base is already install. kmplayer-konq-plugins wasn't found. blackwaltz_: i've already installed that00:46
mox69hmm00:46
Narissa8)00:46
blackwaltz_kmplayer is of course great for everything else (particulary when using the xine engine, in my experience .... seems to play things smooother)00:46
Narissamox69: he's runnign gutsy00:46
mox69go here http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/00:46
mox69does it ask you to install a plugin, or does flash work?00:46
blackwaltz_xoqa: go to konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> plugins and see if it's listed00:46
Narissaxoqa: left you with more help than you can shake a stick at, I gotta log for a bit.  Being at work sucks 8)00:47
Narissathanks guys for helping out black and mox00:47
blackwaltz_no prob00:48
josephso where would i go to mess with the repeat rate of the keyboard?00:48
josephuh, n/m00:48
joseph<-- stupid00:48
blackwaltz_joseph: I don't know where you'd go, but I'd go into bios to change it00:49
josephnah, for some reason, the repeat switch was disabled in the keyboard properties in kcontrol00:49
josephgod forbid it be a BIOS issue!00:49
xoqapics:00:51
xoqahttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4122/74156301se5.png00:51
blackwaltz_joseph: heh, no kidding ..... BIOS bugs can be nothing short of nightmares.00:51
xoqathat shows the plugins identified00:51
xoqahttp://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9788/a2fu7.png - the next two show what i'm seeing00:52
mox69xoqa: what exactly happens .. ok00:52
xoqahttp://img523.imageshack.us/img523/716/a3ju9.png00:52
mox69well it looks like flash is loading or that screen wouldn't show up00:52
chopinhow do i tell kubuntu not to look at cdrom0 for sources when apt-getting?00:52
xoqawhen i go to a video on you tube... the browser goes to full screen then back to normal00:52
xoqathen it doesn't display anything until i wiggle the mouse around the deformed volume button00:52
xoqathen what is in the picture displays00:53
xoqathe stuff in the middle is flashing00:53
mox69ok next question00:53
mox69right click on the youtube player00:53
mox69click "about flash"00:53
xoqait took me about 20 attempts to capture the white box forming, and even then i only got half of the white box00:53
blackwaltz_xoqa .... weird, very weird00:53
mox69tell us ethe version00:53
xoqathe white box is in the second youtube pic00:53
xoqakonqueror 3.5.800:54
xoqajust installed the system today00:54
vasilisaCan anyone tell me why k3b won't rip dvds for me?00:54
xoqakubuntu gutsy gibbon00:54
vsingh165im trying to get kubuntu working properly on my hp zv600000:54
greythanechopin:  adept > manage repositories > third party . uncheck cd00:54
vasilisaIt did before i reinstalled the OS....00:54
mox69xoqa: no the flash version installed00:54
xoqaoh00:54
xoqanot sure how to tell00:54
mox69xoqa: if you right click on the messed up youtube window00:54
vsingh165when i boot up, after the grub menu, all i see is a blank screen00:54
mox69you should get a menu00:54
vsingh165nothing happens after that00:55
chopingreythane: awesome, i was just about to click that one but wasn't sure :-)00:55
chopinthanks00:55
vsingh165and this is after installing fglrx00:55
mox69xoqa: then an "about flash player" option should show up after you right click00:55
xoqamox69: when i right click on the messed up flash box, nothing happens00:55
mox69hmm00:55
ScottyWhat would be the cause of me not being able to resize my primary partition in Kubuntu? The option just isn't there. It's either use entire disk, use largest available, or manually edit. When I manually edit I can't resize it there either.00:55
mox69xoqa: goto this website : http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_1550700:56
blackwaltz_The flash version shouldn't be an issue, it should be the same as the one in the repository, which seems to be working fine for me.00:56
mox69hmm00:56
mox69but when he right clicks...the flash menu should show up ..00:56
blackwaltz_mox69: it would if it were working ...00:57
mox69...hmm true00:58
xoqamox69: not sure if that website was telling me what version i have... so here's a screenshot of what i saw:00:58
xoqahttp://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5103/versionrv6.png00:58
nerv203Hey. I'm having trouble installing the Java Runtime Environment for Firefox on my Kubuntu machine.00:58
nerv203I can't find the plugin in the package handler, and the self extractor I downloaded doesn't seem to do anything.00:59
xoqawhat's odd is that the flash on imageshack.us is working00:59
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xoqathink that's flash01:00
blackwaltz_nerv203: one question first, what's your uname -m output01:00
ScottyWhat would be the cause of me not being able to resize my primary partition in Kubuntu? The option just isn't there. It's either use entire disk, use largest available, or manually edit. When I manually edit I can't resize it there either.01:00
xoqanothing shows up when i rightclick the ad and nothing happens when i left click it01:00
nerv203Oh, actually, I think I've just figured something out.01:00
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blackwaltz_Do tell01:02
vsingh165ok why does kubuntu take like 2 minutes to boot01:04
vsingh165and on top of that i dont get a bootscreen like i did with ubuntu01:04
vsingh165its just blank01:04
nerv203Well, i actually found a tutorial on how to install from a self extractor, and found out Iw as doing something wrong ^^01:05
BluesKajnerv203, usually it's best to extract to a new folder01:06
nerv203Missing a step entirely in fact.01:06
vsingh165is the long boot time normal for Kubuntu?01:07
greythanevsingh165: known config prob with gutsy. incorrect screen resolution set.01:07
vsingh165greythane: any fixes for that01:07
greythanesearch ubuntu forms for 'long boot time'01:07
vsingh165k01:07
nerv203My Kubuntu takes a loooong time to boot, largely because my computer is extremely low spec01:07
nerv203It's old, and it was low spec when it was new.01:08
vsingh165mine isn't exactly low spec01:08
vsingh165its a laptop01:08
vsingh165with a 2ghz athlon 6401:08
vsingh1651gb ddr40001:08
vsingh16580gb hard drive01:08
Radi01That should scream.01:08
vsingh165and a 128MB ati card01:09
vsingh165i know but it takes forever to boot!01:09
vsingh165otherwise its not slow01:09
vsingh165but boot time is a killer01:09
Radi01Mifgr be a bios issue.01:09
Radi01might01:09
vsingh165yeah this is an hp...01:09
vsingh165lol01:09
Grav3Mindhey guys if i enable compiz on my kubuntu install and i have the ubuntu desktop do i need to enable it there?01:09
Grav3Mindor no01:09
zerby_ive a question for a friend of mine first time kubuntu user gg: is there an issue with restricted driver after fresh install and update?01:09
zerby_(ati)01:10
zerby_i need advice01:10
zerby_ive a question for a friend of mine first time kubuntu user gg: is there an issue with restricted driver after fresh install and update?01:10
zerby_(ati)01:10
BluesKajzerby_, what's the issue?01:10
greythanevsingh165: sounds like my laptop. correcting the screen res in /etc/uspalsh.conf fixed it01:10
zerby_BluesKaj : errors01:11
vsingh165greythane: ok so i just set it to my lcd panel's default res of 1280x800?01:11
BluesKajzerby, more specific pls01:11
zerby_BluesKaj : There was an error commiting changes. Possible there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages01:11
zerby_btw with every update01:11
vsingh165greythane: how does your /etc/usplash.conf look?01:12
Radi01Does it stop @ 50%01:12
greythanevsingh165: 800 or 768?  mine is 1280x768 :)  xres=1280; yres=76801:13
Radi01zerby01:13
zerby_Radi0101:13
vsingh165ok so u set it to ur lcd panel's default res01:13
vsingh165lets see if this works brb01:13
zerby_apt-get -f install ??01:13
Radi01does it stop at 50% all of the time.01:13
BluesKajzerby, what ati card ?01:13
zerby_Radi01 just error with updaten01:14
Radi01oh ok01:14
zerby_i am no ubuntu -user so i dont know01:14
Radi01On any package?01:14
zerby_i am asking now BluesKaj01:14
zerby_seems to be the case Radi0101:14
nerv203What's the terminal command to create a new folder?01:15
Radi01is it a fresh install?01:15
zerby_yes Radi0101:15
Radi01dpkg --configure -a01:15
zerby_mmmm could be yes Radi0101:15
Aloneahow do you rm a dir that is is not empty?01:15
vasilisaCan somebody please explain? In K3b when i try to rip a dvd, it doesn't list tracks anymore. It lists an AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS directory. Why arent there tracks like there were before i reinstalled kubuntu?01:15
zerby_Alonea  rm -r01:16
Aloneazerby_: ty01:16
Radi01put that in termonal and answer (Y) and letter rip\01:16
Radi01dpkg --configure -a01:16
zerby_Alonea if that gets too slow and you are sure: rm -rf (f=force)01:17
Aloneazerby_: was just going to ask that. tons of files in there01:17
zerby_:) Alonea01:17
zerby_but it s beyond repair01:17
Aloneazerby_: er, how do I get it to cancel? or is that not possible01:17
zerby_ctrl + c01:18
zerby_but you dont undo then Alonea01:18
zerby_you just interrupt01:18
vsingh165greythane: didn't solve the problem.01:18
Aloneazerby_: that fine. I messed up the files and needed to redo what I was doing.01:18
vsingh165took the same amount of time to boot01:18
zerby_BluesKaj : ati radeon... 960001:19
vasilisaCan somebody please explain? In K3b when i try to rip a dvd, it doesn't list tracks anymore. It lists an AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS directory. Why arent there tracks like there were before i reinstalled kubuntu? There's an error too, but it flashes too quicly on the screen for me to read it.01:19
Aloneavasilisa: hmm...well, audiots and video ts is what I am used to when I rip a dvd. the audio folder is generally empty and the video has all of you vob, ifo, etc.01:20
Aloneavasilisa: are you trying to copy a dvd or make the dvd into another format?01:21
vasilisaAlonea: Usually i get a list of tracks with their run times, and i pick one. I did it all the time01:21
vasilisaim trying to rip it to my computer as an mpeg....01:21
greythanevsingh165: you will probably need to enter in konsole/terminal :   sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash01:21
vsingh165i'll try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3676658&postcount=11501:21
vsingh165greythane: k01:21
vsingh165greythane: anything else?01:22
BluesKajzerby, the old driver has to be uninstalled , then sudo depkg-reconfigure server-xorg in the terminal , when you get to graphics driver list choose ati , then go to the system settings/advanced/restricted driver/admin mode /enable01:22
zerby_k tx BluesKaj01:22
BluesKaj dpkg01:22
BluesKajnot depkg01:22
funcrushCan I connect remote host with kubuntu desktop?01:22
Aloneavasilisa: hmm. probably settings somewhere. those folders are a direct rip of the dvd. I guess you could take your vobs of the movie and convert those into one mpeg. not sure. don't care for k3b much01:23
vasilisaAlonea: *sigh* okay, thanks...01:23
BluesKajRemoving Files not installed Package Managers01:23
BluesKaj'sudo rm -rf /folder/where/file/was/installed '01:23
vasilisanothing else i use works...01:23
zerby_ys got that BluesKaj  i am a bit familiar with debian01:24
zerby_tx again01:24
BluesKajnp zerby , good luck01:25
zerby_tx BluesKaj i hope it will work for him01:26
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Radi01Never happen.01:30
ardchoilleInformatica: Please take that to another channel.01:30
Informaticaany reccomendations?01:31
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* ardchoille drags out his ignore list *sigh*01:31
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ardchoille!ops01:31
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!01:31
sdlnxgkanyone here??01:36
mot_what's the quickest way to setup samba in kubuntu?01:36
mot_is there a gui config?01:36
sdlnxgksudo passwd doesn't work01:36
ardchoillesdlnxgk: What are you trying to do?01:37
basculemot_: kdenetwork01:37
mot_mkay thanks01:37
sdlnxgkardchoille, I was trying to add firestarter to visudo and now my sudo passwd doesn't work anymore01:38
ardchoillesdlnxgk: There's no need to add firestarter to visudo. Sounds like you may have messed up in visudo and removed yourself.01:38
mot_bascule, i installed the package, how do i start the samba config??01:38
basculeit should show in kcontrol01:39
mot_kcontrol?01:39
pjeideYour control panel01:39
mot_awesome01:39
basculemot_: system settings, network section, sharing01:40
mot_once i have samba setup i can access it by //IP right?01:44
mot_IE is redirecting me to websearch and not taking me to the share.01:44
basculemot_: smb://01:44
mot_then the ip?01:44
basculeah from ie, well my network placs is where to look01:44
mot_damnit, nothing there01:45
basculehave you set a host name for samba01:45
mot_no01:45
basculeor whatever win network calls them ...01:46
piperhi there, whats the command to work on your static ip from the terminal?01:56
piperits like netconf or ipconf01:56
piperor something along those lines01:56
basculepiper: ifconfig01:57
Jay-Oh-Enis there a ati tool to configure fglrx driver?02:01
vbgunzI really hate how sometimes flash just skips to death :(02:01
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aziegleri need help, need the command for setting the display parameters02:03
azieglerdoes anyone know it?02:03
ardchoilleaziegler: xorg?02:04
ardchoilleaziegler: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?02:04
azieglerhow does i switch between 600*800 and 1024*768 px02:04
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Jay-Oh-Enhow come my sound sucks?02:06
Jay-Oh-Enit doesnt sound horrible but it doesnt play loud02:06
Jay-Oh-Eni almost have to turn my speakers up all the way to hear just a little sound02:07
Jay-Oh-Enfor quiet music02:07
xoqahmm.. guess i'll come back later. my head is hurting from trying so many possible solutions :P02:07
xoqathanks for everyone's help02:08
MinatakuJay-Oh-En: Check that the sound card's volume is set high02:10
MinatakuThe volume on the speakers is dependant on the strength of the signal coming from the card02:11
Minataku100% of 25% is 25%02:11
Jay-Oh-EnMinataku: how do i do that?02:11
MinatakuI believe kmix can do that02:12
MinatakuI use a different program for it, myself, but kmix comes with KDE02:12
Jay-Oh-Enwhats pcm02:12
MinatakuPulse Code Modulation02:12
Jay-Oh-Enshould that be set to high02:12
MinatakuLikely two channels will be of interest02:12
MinatakuMain and PCM02:12
MinatakuSet one of these to 100%, and configure other applications to manipulate only one of these02:13
sdlnxgkardchoille, how can I add myself back to visudo ??02:13
Jay-Oh-EnMinataku: ok i got it02:13
MinatakuJay-Oh-En: Cool. :D02:14
Jay-Oh-En=D thanks02:14
Minatakunp02:14
piper!ifconfig02:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:16
piper!info ifconfig02:16
ubotuPackage ifconfig does not exist in gutsy02:16
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piperhow do you edit your static ip from console02:16
RaT-TuBhi everyone02:16
RaT-TuBhopefully someone here will be able to help me02:16
RaT-TuBI just downloaded kubuntu 7.10 64bit ...the cd booted fine when I restarted, but when I chose "start or install", the screen just went blank02:17
RaT-TuBmy monitor actually turn itself off..02:18
RaT-TuBwithout any message or anything..02:18
RaT-TuBany suggestions?02:18
piperRaT-TuB: you could install from text mode02:18
Jay-Oh-Enpiper: i know how02:18
Jay-Oh-Enpiper: ill get you the code02:18
gibDoes kexi 2.0 (from KOffice2) work for anyone?  It crashes at start for me.02:19
piperRaT-TuB: or use the little monitor help thing at the bottom02:19
piperfor resolution/ other config aspects02:19
piperJay-Oh-En: thanks02:19
RaT-TuBpiper, yeah the resolution thing didn't help either..02:19
RaT-TuBI also tried "vga = 771" ...something it mentionned in the installer help02:20
Jay-Oh-Enpiper: sudo kate /etc/resolv.conf is for the dns servers02:20
Jay-Oh-Enpiper: this is for the ip addresses sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces02:21
Jay-Oh-Enpiper: sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces restart      is to restart your server02:21
gibIs anyone testing any of the kde4 apps?  The of the office suite runs for me, but no luck with kexi.02:23
piperJay-Oh-En: thanks02:23
Jay-Oh-Enpiper: your welcome =]02:23
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MinatakuYeah, the monitor "turning off" (it's actually transitioning to a protection state) is indicative of the computer sending it a signal it can't use02:27
MinatakuThough he's gone now :P02:27
MinatakuMissed before he left02:27
Jay-Oh-EnMinataku: can you help me with my fglrx driver02:28
MinatakuI don't use fglrx, so no, sorry02:28
Jay-Oh-Enok02:28
Jay-Oh-En:[02:28
Jay-Oh-Eni just wanted to set the agp speed02:29
Jay-Oh-Ento X802:29
Jay-Oh-Enand other stuff02:29
MinatakuHm02:29
Minataku!fglrx02:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:29
Minataku<.<02:29
MinatakuThat MIGHT help02:29
MinatakuIf not, complain to the management02:29
Tarindoes anyone know how to get xgl for gutsy?02:30
Jay-Oh-EnTarin: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl02:31
Tarinahhhhhhh cool thanks02:32
Jay-Oh-En:]02:32
Jay-Oh-EnTarin: are you trying to install compiz?02:32
greythanejay-Oh-En: try glxinfo from a konsole/terminal window02:32
Jay-Oh-Enpastbin it? greythane?02:33
Tarinyes i am trying to02:33
Jay-Oh-EnTarin: you should look at this02:34
Jay-Oh-En!compiz02:34
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:34
Tarini have emerald and i thinnk compiz but when i try to choose a theme it doesnt do anything02:34
greythanejay-Oh-En: pastbin??  type it in...?02:35
Jay-Oh-Engreythane: should i pastebin my output?02:35
greythaneno.. thought you wanted to find info.. :)02:36
Jay-Oh-Enoh02:36
Jay-Oh-Enno i didnt02:36
greythanesrry02:36
Tarinhas anyone ever seen this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:37
NickPrestaTarin, that happens. Try a "sudo apt-get -f install"02:38
sdlnxgkhow can I add myself back to visudo to get sudo passwd back ..02:39
ardchoillesdlnxgk: What exactly do you need "sudo passwd" for?02:44
sdlnxgkardchoille, hmmm to run firestarter02:44
sdlnxgkadmin stuff02:44
sdlnxgkneed sudo passwd for lots of things02:45
ardchoillesdlnxgk: You don't need "sudo passwd" to run firestarter. You use kdesu firestarter02:45
sdlnxgkcan't even do that02:45
ardchoillesdlnxgk: If it's to enable the root ccount, then I would recommend you don't do that. Use sudo, it's best, there is no need to ever enable the root account02:45
sdlnxgkI don't have a passwd anymore02:45
sdlnxgkardchoille, what I was trying to do was have firestarter run when kde starts up02:46
ardchoillesdlnxgk: firestarter scripts run when the system boots. The firestarter ui doesn't need to be running at all for your firewall to be up and running.02:47
sdlnxgkahhhh ok02:47
ardchoillesdlnxgk: I have never seen a need for sudo passwd02:47
sdlnxgkardchoille, so how can I fix this and get to edit the visudo back the way it was02:47
Jay-Oh-Enwhat will this do for me sudo apt-get install fglrx-control02:47
sdlnxgkardchoille, maybe i'm calling it the wrong thing02:48
ardchoillesdlnxgk: Can u you use sudo right now?02:48
sdlnxgkardchoille, when I need to do something in admin I type sudo -i or sudo nano then type a passwd02:48
sdlnxgkno sudo is broke02:48
sdlnxgkthat is why i'm freaking out02:48
sdlnxgkI can change my passwd  that is about it02:49
ardchoillesdlnxgk: You have broken sudo.. but I would recommend you never use "sudo passwd", since you don't seem to understand sudo.02:49
Jay-Oh-Engarsh he screwed his box up02:49
soldierhey i need some quick help, im not sure which kubuntu version i have, i want to upgrade to 7.1002:50
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Yes, man who play in root eventually kill tree.02:50
MinatakuHow did you break sudo? O.o02:50
sdlnxgkardchoille, why do you say I don't understand sudo?? it's only used for admin stuff so you don't have to use root correct02:50
basculeeasy changed with recovery mode and add a root pass to /etc/shadow02:50
ardchoillesdlnxgk: Yes, but do you know what "sudo passwd" actually does?02:51
sdlnxgkMinataku, I added a line in visudo and removed myself  from access02:51
greythaneyou are using your own password for sudo I asume (ubuntu/kubuntu default mode) ? :)02:51
Jay-Oh-Ensdlnxgk: you breaking sudo shows you dont UNDERSTAND sudo correct?02:51
MinatakuAh02:51
jttsoldier,  cat  /etc/lsb-release  to see release you are using02:51
sdlnxgksudo passwd grants temp access for reg user to have root priv02:51
ardchoillesoldier: lsb_release -a02:51
ardchoillesdlnxgk: wrong.02:52
sdlnxgkJay-Oh-En,  that doesn't mean anything02:52
Jay-Oh-Enwhatever02:52
Jay-Oh-Enim out bye guys02:52
ardchoillesdlnxgk: "sudo passwd" allows you to augment an accont.. for admin tasks, it's just "sudo"02:52
ardchoilleMore accurately, "sudo <command>"02:53
ardchoille"sudo passwd" runs the passwd command as root.. which can quickly b0rk things if you're not careful.02:54
sdlnxgkardchoille, ok so how can I add myself back to visudo so I can use kdesu firestarter02:54
soldiersorry im so late02:55
sdlnxgknot really firestarter but anything kdesu kate02:55
soldieri have 5.10 breezy02:55
sdlnxgkkdesu whateverprogramIwant02:55
ardchoillesdlnxgk: What I would do is boot into the live cd, mount your / partition somewhere and manually edit /etc/sudoers02:56
sdlnxgkcan't even use kdesu now02:56
soldierhow do i upgrade though the terminal?02:56
soldierfrom 5.10 to 7.10?02:56
ardchoillesdlnxgk: Right, because of your misunderstanding sudo, you have broken your admin privs02:56
jttsoldier, cant help ther i never upgrade02:56
soldierk02:56
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stdinsoldier: easier to get a gutsy CD, else you'd have to go  breezy > dapper > edgy > feisty > gutsy02:57
sdlnxgkardchoille,  I just followed what was on ubuntu.com about running firestarter on boot with no passwd and now it's borked02:57
ardchoillesoldier: You can't go from 5.10 to 7.10. you have to go from 5.10 to 6.04, then from 6.04 to 6.10, and so on, one release at a time02:57
sdlnxgksounded easy enough02:57
sdlnxgkardchoille, thanks for your help I guess I need a sudo class or how to use admin in kubuntu period02:57
ardchoillesdlnxgk: firestarter is installed in such a way that the scripts autostart on boot, there's nothing for the user to change. You either misread or the info was wrong.02:58
sdlnxgkI read it right, so the info was wrong... or might have been for a older version02:58
Jay-Oh-Enso he did that for no reason02:58
sdlnxgkJay-Oh-En,  yes seems that way02:59
sdlnxgkall because firestarter was stopping and quiting the gui and I thought it was stopping the firewall02:59
ardchoillesdlnxgk: In the future, it's not a bad idea to make a backup of a system file before editing it. Can save you a lot of hassle later02:59
sdlnxgklesson learned the hard way02:59
sdlnxgkI have a back up of the file03:00
Jay-Oh-Enso what now he has to reinstall?03:00
sdlnxgkbut don't have permission to replace the file :(03:00
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ardchoillesdlnxgk: fwiw, firestarter isn't your firewall, iptables is your firewall. Firestarter is just a gui to assit in editing iptables rules. The firewall itself comes with Kubuntu.03:00
sdlnxgkJay-Oh-En,  live cdrom and edit the file then reboot if all  goes well03:00
naelrsdinxgk: when you boot your computer does it automaticly log in?03:01
sdlnxgkyes I know firestarter is a gui to iptables03:01
naelror do you type your username and password03:01
ardchoillesdlnxgk: No, but you have the ioriginal file? Then you can run the livecd and restore the file instead of trying to figure out what the syntax was to begin with.03:01
sdlnxgknaelr, yes it auto logs in or I wouldn't be able to be here right now03:01
naelrwell sudo passwd all you did was change your users password03:02
sdlnxgkardchoille, got ya ;)03:02
naelrexactly so lets say I typed sudo passwd03:02
naelrit then prompts me for my password03:02
naelrthen it promsts again to what I wanna change it to03:02
naelrand again to confirm03:02
sdlnxgknaelr, actually changed one like on default at the end to ,rootpw and it borked it all to hell03:02
naelrso your password is what ever you typed twice03:03
ardchoillenaelr: He seems to have b0rked sudoers03:03
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: can you tell me why the command su doesnt work03:03
naelrok so what happens when you do something stupid like (from a termainal) sudo konqueror03:03
sdlnxgknaelr, I can change my passwd but I don't have access to sudo03:03
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Because it's not needed03:03
Jay-Oh-Enthe password i put in doesnt work03:03
Jay-Oh-Enok03:03
naelrsudo is your passwrd03:03
Minatakusu doesn't require the sudoers file, AFAIK03:03
MinatakuThis is why there should always be a root password03:04
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Use sudo for all admin tasks, su isn't needed at all03:04
sdlnxgkok brb gonna live cd and change the file03:04
naelrI make a root passord03:04
MinatakuSo errors like this can easily be remedied03:04
sdlnxgkthanks for your help everyone  !!!03:04
MinatakuAnd yes, ardchoille, there ARE some things that sudo is insufficient for03:04
naelrI agree03:04
Jay-Oh-Enkdesu03:04
MinatakuChanging the maximum user RTC frequency, for example03:04
naelrdoes he get an error when he uses sudo I didn't see any thing like that looking back03:04
MinatakuThis operation MUST be performed by root03:04
MinatakuThere is no way to do it through sudo, you will get "Permission Denied"03:05
stdinMinataku: why? sudo is root. what doesn't work exactly?03:05
stdinlet me know and I'll tell you the way it can work03:05
MinatakuI don't know why, but it doesn't.03:05
naelrno sudo is run command as root03:05
MinatakuEven with full sudo privliges03:05
stdinMinataku: what command do you run that fails?03:05
MinatakuThis action cannot be done through sudo03:05
naelrsu do as root... super user do this command03:05
MinatakuOne sec03:05
ardchoilleMinataku: Well, in 4 years, I have never had a problem with sudo.. never found it to be inefficient for anything. Besides, the sudo model is the recommended way of doing things and all other advice that circumvents that model should be taken to another channel. When in rome..03:05
MinatakuI do use sudo myself03:06
MinatakuBut I also use root for extended periods of administration03:06
MinatakuAnd aforementioned insufficiencies03:06
naelrreading back though I don't think he broke his sudo command... unless I missed something03:06
ardchoillenaelr: He used visudo to edit sudoers and apparently broke his admin privs03:07
naelrah...03:07
Minatakustdin: This command: 'echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq'03:07
stdinMinataku: that's not being run as root ;)03:07
stdinthe ">" is done in the shell03:07
stdinthe shell you are running, not a root shell03:07
naelrI see I musta missed that line ardchoile sorry03:08
ardchoillesudo doesn't handle redirection like that anyway, you need to pipe it thru tee03:08
stdinMinataku: 'echo 1024 |sudo tee /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq' < done :)03:08
ardchoilleRight03:08
stdinsudo can do *anything* su/root can03:08
ardchoilleExactly03:08
ardchoilleThe user just needs to know what they're doing ;)03:09
stdinyou could also just do "sudo -i" then run the original command too03:09
stdin"sudo -i" starts a shell as root03:09
stdinit's almost never needed though03:09
ardchoilleI've been using ubuntu since 2004 and never needed anything other than sudo03:10
BluesKajsu su sudio ...wonder if Phil Collins uses debian or kubuntu :)03:11
ardchoillehahaha03:11
Radi01lol03:11
Radi01gksudio03:11
jttBluesKaj, touche!!!03:11
MinatakuHm03:12
Minatakustdin: Well damn.03:12
flaccidkdesudo is cool..03:12
MinatakuNever would have figured that one out.03:12
stdinheh, it's a bit difficult to understand why commands like that fail unless you know how shell redirection's done03:13
ardchoilleThis is why it always pains me to see people enabling the root account.03:14
* Minataku nods03:14
ardchoillestdin: Yeah03:14
flaccidsometimes you need root03:14
MinatakuI just find, myself, the ability to log in as root as more convienent at times03:14
MinatakuI prefer having an actual root shell once in a while or for when I'm doing certain things03:14
flaccidMinataku: do sudo -i03:15
MinatakuActually, I use Gentoo03:15
stdinMinataku: that's also the danger, it's so convenient you'll end up doing it when you don't _need_ to ;)03:15
MinatakuSo I set all my policies myself03:15
* flaccid looks at the channel name03:15
Minatakustdin: I don't do that, though03:15
MinatakuI know what requires what03:15
MinatakuTypically I only log in as root to use Portage03:15
MinatakuSince I'll usually emerge a load of things and do per-line environment manipulation (for USE flags)03:16
MinatakuWhich makes a root shell better03:16
draikHello all03:16
MinatakuHiya03:17
draikWho left Murphy out of his cage?03:17
draikHey Minataku03:17
MinatakuHis laws bite you in the ass?03:17
draikMinataku: I lost a promotion at work. My car's transmission is gone; not even operational. I got my Cable connection canceled for DSL. Yeah, I would think so.03:20
MinatakuAck :(03:20
ardchoilledraik: Whoa, and I thought *I* had a monoploy on Murphy's laws03:21
jttdraik, yeah but that was a great leadin you used03:21
MinatakuAnd I got to use the word "ass"03:21
MinatakuI like that word.03:22
Minatakulol03:22
draikardchoille: Yeah. I am hunting down the person that let Murphy out.03:22
ardchoilledraik: hehe03:22
draikjtt: ...?03:22
draiko.O03:22
jttdraik  yeah03:22
jttgreat leadin03:23
draikYou mean "Who left Murphy out of his cage?"03:23
jttdraik, yeah03:23
draikAh, gotcha03:23
Radi01sudo murphy -uninstall.03:24
ardchoilleRadi01: hahaha03:24
jttsome times these irc channels crack me up03:24
draikRadi01: sudo apt-get remove --purge murphy03:24
Radi01lol03:24
draikWait... forgot something...03:24
ardchoilleThee's probably even a law for that too03:24
draiksudo apt-get remove --purge murphy && sudo apt-get autoremove03:25
jtti am actually chuckling so much i have to dry me eyes to see the screen03:25
ardchoilledraik: You can combine those03:25
ardchoilledraik: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove package03:25
draikardchoille: Oohhh. How so?03:25
draikAh, very good.03:25
ardchoilledraik: The "--auto-remove" option was added to apt-get in Edgy03:26
stdinardchoille: easier still "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove <package>"03:26
draikardchoille: Then that's what I'm going to use on Murphy and it's owner03:26
ardchoillestdin: Nice03:26
stdinor just use aptitude ;)03:26
ardchoilleYeah03:26
draikCLI03:26
ardchoillealias purgeme='sudo aptitude purge'  :)03:27
ardchoilleThank $DIETY for /bash_aliases03:27
ardchoilles|/|.|03:28
draikalias die='sudo apt-get remove'03:28
ardchoilleOoh, I like "die" better03:28
draikIt was named after an ex at one point, but I cut back a few letters and decided on "die"03:29
jttPS1="login:"03:29
ardchoilledraik: lol03:29
draikI think we have a pretty good bash thing going on here...03:30
draikI introduced a co-worker to bash.org today03:30
draikHe was fairly entertained03:30
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josephthe bash.org moderators stink :)03:34
MinatakuHeh03:35
MinatakuThey have for years now03:35
MinatakuWhich is why there's qdb.us03:35
MinatakuI believe that's it03:35
josephis that an alternative to bash?03:37
draiktechcomedy.com03:39
draikI love the EUPotD03:39
Minatakujoseph: It is03:40
josephit looks the same almost03:40
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stansmithguys, who has more packages, ubuntu or debian?03:43
flaccidlook it up03:43
INIT_6Sorry, I have been trying to find my answer all day. I got all my kde4 packages installed. and got it to work with  xephyr. I want to run a full session to do so. it seems i need kdm-kde4. however it seems that packages isn't there to download or install. am I missing something?03:43
stansmith...03:43
flaccidubuntu inherits debian so..03:44
stdinINIT_6: where did you get the idea you need kdm-kde4 ?03:44
flaccidand it depends what repos you are talking about. what is the UoD ?03:44
INIT_6http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php03:44
stansmithyea but i heard ian murdock saying how some ubuntu packages arent backwards compatible with debian03:44
stdinINIT_6: you should only actually need kdebase-workspace-data03:46
INIT_6stdin, let me try that, and thank you. you are always helping everyone.03:47
stdin:)03:47
stansmithstdin, do you program C?03:47
stdineww, no :P03:47
INIT_6he programs in binary03:47
stansmithoh...I always thought thats where you got your name from03:47
flaccidstdin is shell03:48
stdinthat, and "cin" was taken03:48
flaccidhehe03:48
* stdin dabbles in C++03:48
flaccidc++ and qt rule for gui app dev03:49
stansmithflaccid: http://irc.essex.ac.uk/www.iota-six.co.uk/c/c1_standard_input_and_output.asp03:49
flaccidstansmith: technically it doesn't have to be done in C (which is what most unix is made from)03:49
stdinflaccid: http://stdin.me.uk/code/ < my 1st Qt app :)03:49
stansmithstdin: you are in jolly UK?03:50
stdinstansmith: not sure how jolly it is, but yeah03:50
flaccidstdin: nice man. did you use c++ ?03:50
stdinflaccid: yeah, all totally written in C++ (didn't even use Qt designer)03:51
flaccidah03:51
flaccidi think i will be picking your brain soon then :)03:51
stdinthere's always ##qt03:52
stansmithhaha03:52
stansmithand the library03:52
flaccidyeah i've just made something basic in the past and need to re-visit when i get round to it03:52
stdinflaccid: read the docs, they are no end of use to me. install the package "qt4-doc"  or just use the online version http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/index.html03:55
INIT_6stdin, after I install kdebase-workspace-data. do I need to edit anything. or just restart?03:55
stdinINIT_6: just follow on through the instructions, "copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."03:56
flaccidstdin: thanks muchly br003:56
INIT_6oh ok, thanks,03:56
stansmithok well i think debian has more packages03:58
CadaverPimpHow do I get draik to logoff?04:00
stdin!ghost04:00
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>04:00
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draikAhhhhh04:00
draikBack into my old skin04:01
draikThank you stdin04:01
stdin:)04:01
naelrif I do rmmod on a module then I blacklist it if I wanna bring it back can I just unblacklist it or do I need to reinstall it?04:01
stansmithnaelr: unblacklist it and insmod04:01
stdinnaelr: just remove it from the blacklist file04:01
stdinyou can just modprobe it manually too04:01
naelrdamnit that was what I forgot ... insmod hahah04:01
naelrwell I would have to modprobe it every boot04:02
naelri was lsmoding it t oo.. I just forgot insmod04:02
draikWhen a nick is being ghosted, what is it doing? Does it just sit there doing nothing?04:02
naelrthanks stansmith04:02
stdindraik: it's a dead connection, after a while freenode will realise that it doesn't respond and close the connection itself04:03
xoqaanyone mind taking another stab at why konqueror isn't rendering flash correctly? not sure what reinstalling konqueror would do..04:03
stansmithok, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions , debian has about 3000 more packages then ubuntu04:04
naelrok here it goes ndiswrapper04:05
naelrdoes anyone know if you can put ndiswrapper drivers into promiscuis mode?04:07
stdindon't think you can do that with ndiswrapper04:08
INIT_6trying to copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop However /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4 doesn't have a folder called apps only services and servicetypes04:08
INIT_6n/m04:09
INIT_6what it's in /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ now04:09
naelrman I have never rebooted linux so much as I have in the last 3 days04:11
naelrI wonder if  i have rebooted windows as much haha04:12
david__hola04:15
david__hello04:15
oli712l04:23
crackhead_25question: i need help mounting my lacie external firewire hd. it had been mounting fine a week ago. now it won't mount. it just seems to be an empty folder (not recognizing as an external/flash drive/thumb drive), and i know it has many gb's of data on it.04:25
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rocketsHow do I enable tabs in kopete?04:32
setuid_w00tIs there a way to set startup programs when kde starts?04:36
setuid_w00tSay I always want to open konsole, kontact, kopete, etc04:37
myk_somehow I managed to break KDM and now have the regular login manager. How can I restore the default Kubuntu gutsy KDM?04:37
setuid_w00tmyk_: I'm not sure what you mean by regular login manager04:40
setuid_w00tgdm?04:40
setuid_w00tmyk_: you could try removing xdm and gdm from your system if you don't want them04:40
INIT_6oh, man that was scary. I got traped in kde404:41
myk_is there a config file somewhere where i can specify that I want to use kdm as the default login manager?04:41
stdinmyk_: /etc/X11/default-display-manager04:42
myk_seems correct.. this file has one line, /usr/bin/kdm04:43
stdinsetuid_w00t: you can either leave the apps open when you logout and they should autostart, or put links to the files in ~/.kde/Autostart04:43
stdinerm, applications not files04:43
setuid_w00tstdin: cool, thanks04:43
INIT_6Maybe someone can help me out. I got kde4 setup. so I can log into it now from kdm. However there is no menu, it's all blue, I have to open everything by running  commands.04:44
stdinINIT_6: try moving your old ~/.kde4 out of the way04:45
myk_i just purged kdm and kubuntu-dekstop. I will reinstall them and see if that helps04:45
stdinmyk_: try reinstalling kubuntu-default-settings too04:46
myk_will give it a try, thanks. This all started after trying to install some kdm themes like i did in previous kubuntu distros.. Apparently the new one doesnt like that04:46
myk_be right back.04:46
setuid_w00tmyk_: Instead of purge and reinstall, you can often do "dpkg --reconfigure <package>"04:46
INIT_6I am sorry, you might have lost me on that one.  when you say move it out of the way, what do you mean?04:47
stdinrename it to something else04:48
stdinlike ~/.kde4.backup04:48
INIT_6ok, thanks.  so I guess everything in there gets auto-populated.04:48
stdinyeah04:49
cal_I'm having a problem connecting to my msn account in both pidgin and amsn. both clients tell me "disconnected, you have logged in from another location" any ideas?04:53
stdintry kopete instead04:54
cal_..mkay04:54
xoqait woorrks!04:54
xoqawhooo!!!04:54
naelrwould ndiswrapper installed in gutsy have problem with this kernel http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=zen+kernel04:55
naelrmight this be why I can't get my wireless driver running?04:55
cal_that worked stdin, ta04:55
lizililihello !how to player rmvb,rm vedios in kubuntu6.06 ?04:57
lizililii am a new in kubuntu ,please !04:57
stdinlizilili: see this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats04:57
cal_lizlili, try vlcplayer04:58
Dr_willisI wonder where people are getting this realplayer stuff. i havent stumbled upon a web site with realplayer   audio in ages.04:59
naelrguess no one knows about ndiswrapper huh?05:00
cal_I'm new to irc, anyone recommend a list of chat rooms/servers etc?05:00
stdintry bbc.co.uk, it's either realplayer or wmv...05:00
stdincal_: for general chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic05:00
cal_stdin, thanks again!05:01
Dr_willisI was thinking the bbc played for me with mplayer plugin .. Not on the linux box right now so cant double check05:01
INIT_6I moved my ~/.kde4 folder out of the way. still same thing. menu bar isn't there just blue. wondering if I messed it up. by doing something stupid. like I first used the steps from this page: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php     Then, I did steps here for kubuntu: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Kubuntu_and_Debian So I am thinking I got packages mixed.05:03
INIT_6should I just scrape it all and start over?05:03
Dr_willisi aint even touching kde4 other then on live cd's :) untill its actually ready for primetime. :P05:04
stdinINIT_6: that kde page is for building kde4, not installing it05:05
lizililiis there firefox in kubuntu6.06 dafult ? i just installed kubuntu6.06.05:06
Dr_willisIts not installed by default05:06
stdinINIT_6: you could just add the application launcher plasmoid to the desktop05:06
INIT_6I have that i think, plasmoid, it is what lets me right click and run commands. and can add apps but they end up as black boxs05:07
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lizililiwhat is the meaning of 'cannot connect to X server' when i typed 'kate /ect/X11/xorg.cong' in terminal ?05:08
naelrwow this this is driving me crazy05:08
__nihilI've been struggling with this for a while.  I installed the fglrx drivers for my video card, and they seem to be working properly on display :0, but for some reason KDE is running on display :1 ...  Both displays are on the same screen.  I only want :0.05:09
stdinlizilili: make sure you run it as your user (not root). if you want to run it as root use "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"05:09
naelrlaptops shouldn't be allowed to put crazy hardware in them what ever happen to IBM clones of the good old days05:09
lizililii can do nothing in05:09
lizilililizilili@kubuntu:~$ sudo -i05:09
lizililiPassword:05:09
lizililiroot@kubuntu:~# kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:09
lizililikdesu: cannot connect to X server05:09
lizililiroot@kubuntu:~#05:09
Dr_willisthat ones that followed non standard standards05:09
Dr_willislizilili,  use kdesu, not sudo  perhaps.05:10
naelrI have 3 kernels on this laptop05:10
Dr_willisor is it kdesudo  i alwyas forget05:10
naelr1 will alow me to use everything but wireless05:10
stdinlizilili: like i said, run as your user, not root05:10
naelr1 willnot boot at all05:10
naelrand 1 will allow everything but sound05:10
lizililii see05:10
ubuntuis there a telnet client packaged w/ the fiesty distro?05:11
naelrtelnet05:11
Dr_willisthe defacto client. :) heh05:11
Dr_willisegads - who uses telnet these days?05:11
ubuntuim in the console, but I dont know how to specify sever and port05:11
ubuntuI should probably read...05:12
__nihilAny idea why I have more than one display?05:12
ubuntuim having problems getting http traffic, but this irc works ok05:12
stdin__nihil: maybe you installed XGL05:12
ubuntusome dude suggested I telnet to a server and 'get /''05:12
__nihilMy ServerCmd in kdmrc is using X05:13
ubuntuto see if my 80 was blocked05:13
Dr_willisubuntu,  telnet to what server to get '/' what the heck  do ya even mean by get / :)05:13
Dr_willisYou can telnet to port 80 on a web browser as a test.05:13
ubuntuyeah, that's what I'm going for05:13
rgreeningtelnet://ipaddress:8005:14
Dr_willis telnet --help05:14
ubuntuthanks all05:14
Dr_willis telnet localhost 8005:14
rgreeningor telnet from command line (telnet ip port)05:14
__nihilMany websites require a Host header and HTTP1.105:15
stdin'HTTP/1.0 GET /'  should work for most05:15
__nihilSo if I have Xgl installed, even if it's not in my kdmrc, it could be causing this multiple display issue?05:16
carlos_how i close compiz?05:17
ubuntudoes ctrl c do the same thing as in dos?05:17
stdinnot sure, but I remember something about XGL starting on :1 for some systems by default. see if you have "xserver-xgl" installed05:18
stdin__nihil: ^05:18
__nihilIt's worth a shot...05:18
stdincarlos_: Alt-F2 and put in "kwin --replace"05:18
Dr_willisctrl-c sends a break to a running program and normally stops it - under bash.05:18
carlos_tanks, i gonna try this05:19
epimethhi guys... I installed xorg on a brand new gutsy install... it didn't actually work until I did a dpkg reconfigure, but that doesn't pertain to my question.05:25
naelranyone wanna tackle this one about the wireless and ndiswrapper05:26
epimethI want to do some x11 forwarding tests... the wiki tells me to xinit -e ssh -XCT user@server fluxbox -- :105:26
epimethI haven't installed *any* window managers.  what is the default one that comes out of the box?05:26
epimethanybody know?05:26
naelrfor which distro05:27
epimethnaelr: I've done ndis... whats the problem?05:27
naelrkubuntu is kde , ubuntu is gnome and xubuntu is xfce05:27
epimethnaelr: kubuntu cli only install05:27
stdinepimeth: then none05:27
epimethstdin: so how do I test the full desktop forwarding?05:28
stdinepimeth: install a window manager maybe?05:28
epimethI did a "remote login" from the login screen and indeed got *something*, but I think it tried running kde.  I had a black screen with the "x" mouse pointer05:28
epimethstdin: some sort of minimal window manager is installed, tho.  startx opens runs the server and I get a mouse pointer and everything :-)  there's some default window manager installed05:29
naelrok I have 3 kernels on this laptop ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=zen+kernel - which will boot (gives me all but wireless)... 2.6.20-12 which will boot (gives me all but sound)  and 2.6.22-14 which won't boot at all05:29
epimethI think....05:29
stdinepimeth: no, there is no window manager, that's just X05:29
epimethstdin: ohhh... can I forward that?05:29
naelrwould the nidswrapper that works in 2.6.20-12 need recomplied for the other kernel?05:30
naelror might something from the zen kernel be getting in the way05:30
stdinepimeth: the command after "ssh -XCT user@server " is the command to run on the remote system. so use a window manager that's installed on the remote system05:31
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naelrok I gonna give up for the night05:32
naelrthis laptop is giving me the pain in the head05:32
epimethstdin: so again, no window manager is installed.  I *have* to install one?05:33
stdinif you want to forward a full desktop, then yeah05:33
Dr_willisim using xming to get xchat on the upstairs vista machine at this moment. :)  In this case i dont need a full desktop.05:35
Dr_willisI just have the apps getting forwarded to xming.05:36
epimethstdin: but I don't... this is a dev server box.  I want to have x forwarding on it just so the windows guys don't throw a hissy fit about being limited to the cli over ssh.  Whats a good minimalistic window manager?05:36
epimethI don't want to waste resources on kde or gnome.  granted, it isn't much but we will be doing lots of data mining and every little bit counts05:36
stdinepimeth: I tend to go with enlightenment myself, but generally the lighter the window manager the higher it's learning curve :p05:37
Dr_willisjwm, and icewm are both very light.05:37
Dr_willisand look sort of like win95  so they will figure it out.05:37
Dr_willisjwm is about as basic a window manager as ya can get that has a simple start button.05:37
epimethI'll google them... cheers guys :-)05:38
epimethno enlightenment screencaps?05:38
Dr_willisenlightment has a lot of themes and extras and can look all sorts of ways05:39
Dr_willisits also the default window manager (highly tweaked) by that gOS ubuntuspinoff.05:39
Dr_willisIts scary that these days enlightment is considered 'light' it used to be a BIG-Heavy boy! :)05:40
stdinnow twm, that's light :p05:40
josephlite, even05:40
adamonline45Hi...  Is it normal for the screen to go black after confirming and starting the install of 7.10? Last time, I shook my mouse, it came back to life, and halted...  Should I just leave it? For how long?05:42
epimethhah! twm!  *exactly* what I was looking for :-)  I remember this one!05:42
Dr_willistwm is so annoying in ways its scary. :)05:42
Dr_willisof course i rember using wmx and wm2 for ages..05:42
epimethits in the repos?05:42
Dr_willis!find twm05:42
ubotuFound: ctwm, twm, vtwm05:42
Dr_willisI wonder how you would even compare 'lightness' of things like twm/jwm/vtwm and so forth..05:43
epimethyou know... .wm2 doesn't look too bad05:43
Dr_willisGuess just plain memory used? since the cpu used by any of them would be.. rather minimal05:43
Dr_williswm2 and wmx  - had issues last i tried to compile them..  Wonder if they have been updated recently05:43
Dr_willis!find wmx05:44
ubotuFound: wmx10, wmxres05:44
Dr_willis!find wm205:44
ubotuFound: wm205:44
Dr_willis!info wm205:44
ubotuwm2: small, unconfigurable window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4-9 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 136 kB05:44
epimethunconfigurable?05:44
epimethdamn05:44
Dr_willisyou recompile it to change whatever.05:44
epimethef it.  twm is good enough05:44
Dr_willisit gets its menu from a .wm2 dir I belive05:44
epimethahhh... recompile. right :-)05:44
Dr_williswhat do you expect for 136K05:44
Dr_willisit took me like 20 sec to compile ages ago..  on my old old machines.05:45
sMonkAnyone know how to solve a Grub Error 2?05:45
Dr_willis!info jwm05:45
ubotujwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (gutsy), package size 82 kB, installed size 268 kB05:45
epimethhmmm... twm suggests kdebase-bin ?05:45
stdinerm, no05:46
Dr_willisgood old wm2! just like i rember! :)05:47
epimethstdin: that was a statement of fact, not a question.  the question mark was for confusedness emphasis :-)05:47
epimeth!info sux05:47
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB05:47
stdinepimeth: yeah, I checked: "apt-cache show twm" it suggests nothing05:47
Dr_willisi use sux all the time.05:48
sMonkAnyone know how to solve a Grub Error 2? I can't boot my system, I'm running off a live CD05:48
epimethstdin: sudo apt-get install twm....    Suggested packages: gksu kdebase-bin sux05:48
BertoIs it possible to have the Amarok volume bar control my ALSA's PCM (or Front) rather than its own volume control??05:49
Dr_willis!info dwm05:49
ubotudwm: dynamic window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3-1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 184 kB05:49
stdinepimeth: it's menu that suggests them05:49
epimethstdin: ahh... right.  but only menu and twm will be installed, yes?05:50
stdinyeah05:50
epimethalthough... jwm does look all right as well... hmmm05:50
epimethcome to think of it... twm will hurt the windows folks a bit too much, no?  I think maybe jwm might be the best choice here05:51
epimethwhelp... jwm is installed.  now how do I configure x to load it automatically?05:52
Dr_williswhich is why i suggested it. :)05:52
Dr_willisdepeneds on how you are starting X05:53
epimethstartx05:53
Dr_willismake a .xinitrc for it is the best way then05:53
Dr_willisexample. (2 lines)   xterm &  jwm05:53
Dr_willisYou may want to start a few other little apps.  and tweak the menus.05:53
Dr_willisset the background perhaps.05:53
epimethDr_willis: actually... startx loaded it automagically05:54
Dr_willisit must of set up itself as a default since its the only one05:54
epimethcould be05:54
Dr_willisYou still may want to tweak it a little05:54
epimethif I run xinit on this box It'll quit this session, yes?05:55
epimethI will, i will... I just want to test the forwarding first05:55
epimethcheers amigos.  I'll try and brb :-)05:56
crazy_busI have a .mov file.  But it's only playing in kaffeine as audio.  Previous .mov's have worked with video.  Is their anything I can do?05:57
flaccid!codecs05:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:58
flaccidfirst link05:58
epimethlol05:58
epimethI didn't know I had two virtual consoles05:58
flaccid!quicktime05:58
epimethI opened the instructions in lynx and everything :-)05:58
flaccidyeah has to be first link05:58
epimethsoooo. I ran xinit -e ssh -XCT 192.168.4.12 jwm -- :105:59
epimethjwm did *not* load05:59
Dr_willisepimeth,  so what did load?06:00
epimethoh... right... it was just asking for a password06:00
epimethit works!06:00
epimetheureeka!06:00
Dr_williswowsers! :006:01
* Dr_willis has no idea what epimeth was doing with that xinit -e ssh -XCT 192.168.4.12 jwm -- :1 command.. :)06:01
crazy_busflaccid: that article says to install a package which also pulls in flash, and java.  I already installed the ffmpeg package for kaffeine which enabled me to view all previous wmv's and .mov's.  Is it possible that this new .mov is different and need something else?06:01
flaccidi guess its possible06:02
flaccidd/l a sample .mov from the net to test it06:02
epimethDr_willis: forwarding an entire desktop06:02
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Dr_willisthat just seems odd.. :) but i guess xdmcp is not always useable.06:04
epimethxdmcp?06:04
flaccidthin client protocol06:04
Dr_willisI ssh to one  linux machine  and run  a app.. it appears here. :) (using xming on vista)06:05
Dr_willisactually i dont have tossh   - i can start up xming and have it query the network and show me the gdm screen06:05
Dr_willisbut under linux thres always a dozen ways to do somthing.06:06
Dr_willisgotta love that.06:06
stdin"X Display Manager Control Protocol"  lets you login to a remote display manager06:06
flaccidits good that its not closed up06:06
Dr_willisi guess xdmcp is rather omd skool.06:06
epimethcan't I do tat through kdm?06:06
flaccidi dunno i don't see a replacement for xdmcp06:06
flaccidyeah use kdm..06:06
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Dr_willisif you look at the kdm/gdm sessions menu. often they have a 'xdmcp query' item.06:06
stdinany X display manager should have xdmcp available06:06
flaccid!thinclient06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thinclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:06
flaccidits on the wiki somewhere..06:07
Dr_willisyea. im a little vague on how 'ssh -Y whtever ' then running an app. differs from xming connecting/forwarding an app..06:07
epimeththing is, I don't know if there's a display manager running... I start x11 with startx06:07
stdinDr_willis: simple, xming starts a X server first06:08
Dr_willisstdin,  yea guess so. :)06:08
Dr_willisxming may even be defaulting to tunnling the xdmcp stuff thorugh ssh.06:08
stdindon't think you can tunnel xdmcp through ssh06:09
stdinyou can forward the port through shh though06:09
Dr_williswell if i start the xming wizaard. it asks if i want to 'start a program' or 'open session via xdmcp' - Guess the latter is not using ssh.06:10
Dr_willislets see.. xdmcp broadcasting..  and Nothing.. I must not have kdm/gdm configured right  on that machine06:11
Dr_willisthere we go. :) kdm in a window all nice and neat06:12
epimethright... silly me... I *do* need a window manager if I want it to work in windows, right?06:12
epimethxming won't get the whole desktop?06:12
Dr_willisepimeth,  depends on what you are doing06:12
Dr_willisxming gives me a option. :)06:13
epimethyea?06:13
Dr_willisi can have X apps appear in their own windows. as if they were windows apps.06:13
mcvanenany french channel for help ?06:13
stdinon windows it'll use the windows window manager06:13
epimeth!fr | mcvanen06:13
ubotumcvanen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:13
mcvanen!fr06:13
flaccidhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto06:13
Dr_willisor appear on theior own desktop.  OR i could use the xdmcp way and get the kdm/gdm login as if i was connecting directly.06:13
mcvanenthx a lot06:13
epimethno worries06:13
flaccidi think that guides the full scalable one06:14
Dr_willisThen ya got the 'vnc' method of doing some of this. :P06:14
flaccidah thats the real thin client with pxe boot on network06:14
Dr_willisand 'freenx'06:14
epimethI was thinking of vnc, actually... but isn't that overkill?06:14
Dr_willisdepends on what you want to do.06:14
epimethX11 forwarding is enough06:14
Dr_willisvnc can let you have X login sessions that stay alive when you close the window.06:14
epimethgood point....06:15
Dr_willisI use vnc and jwm to run ktorrent for me in the background for weeks on end. :)06:15
epimethright06:15
Dr_willistrue theres better ways to controll ktorrent.. but it was just a neat way to do it.06:15
epimethand this is a dev server, so keeping sessions alive is a good thing06:15
epimethso vnc howto it is!06:15
flaccid!vnc06:15
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:15
Dr_willisi find the vnc4server rather easy06:16
flaccid!freenx06:16
ubotuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX06:16
Dr_willisnot sure if freenx has  sessions that stay alive in the background.06:16
Dr_williswith vnc. you really wan tto use a light desktop also. it can get a bit laggy.06:16
flaccidthis might help depending on your version: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:jUFsrI35pL4J:klomdark.servebeer.com:8081/MessageBase2/ReadMessage.aspx%3FMsgNum%3D1967+xdmcp+kdm+kubuntu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=opera06:16
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Dr_willisthign to rember with vnc is that  if you goof up the options to the 'vncserver' command. it may spawn a new vncserver :)06:18
Dr_willisvncserver -kill :1 (or other #) to kill the sessions06:18
Zombocomyo06:18
ZombocomI'm trying to install linux on my friend's computer06:18
Dr_willisif ya goof up and use vncserver --kill :2  it wont get the arguments right and starts another one. :P06:18
epimethflaccid: that wasn't very useful actually... kdm isn't installed :-p06:19
flaccidkdm is installed by default with kubuntu06:19
Dr_willisI dont think xdmcp can be used with out gdm/xdm/kdm06:19
flaccidnot my fault if you removed it :)06:19
epimethflaccid: nope.  not the command line only install :-)06:19
flaccidyou mean server install?06:20
flaccidif you didn't install a desktop, you want be able to get um err remote desktop..06:20
Zombocomit's a Toshiba laptop with an AMD turion 64X2 processor and an ATI radion graphics card06:20
vbgunzcan anybody play warsow just fine? it looks really, runs really great but every server I try to join gives me a pure check failed...06:20
Zombocomhow do I install it because the boot disk freezes06:20
epimethflaccid: installed X11 after the install... this is a server, not a desktop. I don't want dke or gnome sucking up the resources06:21
flaccidyou need it06:21
flaccidyou need a login manager that supports xdmcp...06:21
ZombocomCAN ANYONE HELP ME?06:21
ZombocomI'm trying to install linux on my friend's computer06:21
Zombocomit's a Toshiba laptop with an AMD turion 64X2 processor and an ATI radion graphics card06:21
ZombocomI'm trying to install linux on my friend's computer06:21
flacciddon't shout06:21
Zombocomok ok06:21
flaccidwhats the specific problem Zombocom06:21
Zombocomthe installer freezes06:22
Zombocomafter it installs everything06:22
flaccidtry the alternate cd06:22
ZombocomI mean06:22
Zombocomwhat?06:22
flaccid!alternate | Zombocom06:22
ubotuZombocom: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal06:22
Zombocomalternate cd...06:22
epimethdid I mention how good it feels to have US internet again?  1,700 kBps after years of no more than 200kBps (if I was *lucky*) is really an amazing feeling06:23
Zombocomhis computer in no way matches the description of a pc that would require the alternate install cd06:24
flaccidwell if both cds don't work then unfortunately there is not much you can do as a normal user..06:24
flaccidbesides making a live usb key from the live cd06:24
Zombocomwhatever flaccid06:25
Zombocomthanks for helping06:25
Dr_willisI have had much better luck with installs from the Alternative Installer cd06:25
flaccidthanks for the attitiude06:25
Dr_willisthe live cd  - just has issues at times06:25
Dr_willisalso checking the md5 of the cd/images is a good idea to do06:26
epimethZombocom: have you checked the md5 of the iso?  maybe something fudged up on the download?06:26
ZombocomI used it in my computer and it worked06:26
epimethso maybe the disk was scratched?  try burning it again...06:26
Dr_willisIve installed ubuntu on 5 different machines.. and for some odd reason the live cd would just not work proplely on one of them. Alt Install cd worked right off. Never did figure out why.06:27
flaccidZombocom: have a think about why they made the alternate cd. the live cd is a full live desktop that uses generic drivers to try to be generic, buts its not going to work on everything...06:27
Zombocomflaccid I am offended by your name06:27
flaccidZombocom: why is that06:27
Dr_willisi have heard of the installer having issues with grub. which is the last thing it instlalls i belive.06:28
Zombocomflaccid makes me think of dicks, everywher06:29
Zombocomie. flaccid penis06:29
bazhango4o Zombocom06:29
Zombocomjust that's the only thing I've heard it used in refrence to06:29
Dr_willisAnd here i was thinking that flaccid  was Greek! :)06:29
Zombocomreally?06:30
Zombocomoh06:30
epimethaccording to the Miriam Webster dictionary, flaccid means: lacking vigor or force06:30
epimethor, when talking about plants:06:31
Zombocomyes, but in commonplace usage06:31
Zombocomwhen someone says flaccid06:31
flaccidthats not my fault..06:31
epimethdeficient in turgor06:31
Zombocomwhat are they making a refrence to06:31
Zombocomok ok06:31
ZombocomI give up06:31
flaccidits an adjective, not a noun..06:31
Zombocomit's not really offencive06:31
flaccidwell it can be both actually06:31
epimeth"a flaccid" ?06:31
epimeth"can I get some flaccid here?"06:32
flaccidyeah proper noun in my case06:32
epimeth"Oi! You! Get your flaccid out of here!"06:32
ZombocomI'll take that flaccid over there please06:32
flaccidyeah06:32
epimethnope... just doesn't sound right06:32
flaccidim dj flaccid and i play hard trance06:32
epimethlololololol06:32
Zombocomlol06:32
epimethefing classic06:32
Zombocomomg lol06:33
vbgunzwarsow looks pretty good. too bad its not outright easy to just play :/06:33
Dr_willisvbgunz,  yep. :) check out 'world of padman' also06:33
vbgunzis it in the reps?06:34
Dr_willisvbgunz,  and tremulus, and.. some more mondern shooter.06:34
Dr_willistrembulus (sp?) i never can spell it right06:34
bazhangwarzone 2100 "}06:34
Dr_willisNot sure about padman.06:34
vbgunzI don't feel like building anything. if it is in the repos I'll check it out :)06:34
vbgunzI saw screens on padman, it looks good, sort of like warsow06:34
Dr_willispadman last i tried it was just download the tar.gz unpack to games.. cd padman ./padman :)06:34
epimethwarzone! nice!  I played that like *years* ago06:34
Dr_willispadman has some neat maps. Like Smurfs with guns. :)06:35
Zombocomyou guys need to talk tech support06:35
Zombocomnot videogame06:35
Zombocomgeez06:35
Zombocomnewfags06:35
vbgunzwarsow plays great by itself. I cannot join any servers though and setting one up puts me in an empty server... I tried adding bots but I don't see none.. heh, trying to get a feel for it06:35
bazhang:{06:35
epimethI didn't have the heart to tell him that the first definition was "not firm or stiff; also : lacking normal or youthful firmness"06:36
Dr_willishow turgor of you...06:36
Dr_willis:P06:36
epimethturgorful! please!  we speaka da correct eeenglich here06:37
vbgunzdamn, padman is 550 MB ... heh06:37
epimeth:-)06:37
vbgunztremulous is in the repos, I'll check it out06:37
epimethanybody set up vnc on gutsy?06:37
vbgunzreminds of natural selection for steam06:38
vbgunzactually half-life mod06:38
Dr_willisepimeth,  i use vnc4server all the time06:38
Dr_willisepimeth,  'sudo apt-get install vnc4server' :)06:38
Dr_willis then as the user use vncpasswd to set up their password.06:39
Dr_willisfirst time ya run vncserver, it will make a .vnc dir.  (stop the vncserver with vncserver -kill :1)  edit the .vnc/xstartup to run what ever desktop you want06:39
epimethwhat about tightvncserver?06:40
epimeth!vnc06:40
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:40
Dr_willisepimeth,  what about it. :006:41
epimeththat suggested tightvncserver06:41
epimethnot vnc4server06:41
Dr_willisheh. I just have had better luck with vnc4server inthe past.06:41
epimethah06:41
epimethall right06:41
Dr_willisi doubt if thers going to be much diff.06:41
epimethwell there's something here about font paths?06:41
Dr_willisages ago some of the vncservers had issues with fonts.. but not noticed that lately. (they had some buggy scripts)06:41
epimethlol06:42
epimeththere it is06:42
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epimethmeh06:42
Dr_willisnot sure its even a problem any more. with vnc4server - i did NOT have to mess with anything. :)06:42
crazypoultryi'm trying to install kdm-kde4 and got this error "dpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" any help would be appreciated06:42
Dr_willisother then editing the xstartup how i wanted06:42
epimethbut I want it over ssh06:42
Dr_willisyou could tunnle vnc over ssh if you wanted.06:42
epimethI don't want users to need *another* password06:42
Dr_willisdont ya know! more passwords make it more secure! :006:43
Dr_willisheh heh.06:43
Dr_willisi cheat and always use the same password.  for my login as my vncserver sessions06:44
johnny_bhehe06:44
Dr_williswell good luck. Night all..06:45
epimethgnight doc!06:45
johnny_bgod morning.06:45
johnny_bwhat about driver for my scanner? Any help?06:46
johnny_bxane does nok work.06:46
johnny_bCanon scanner06:47
johnny_bUSB- scanner06:47
johnny_bwell, forget it06:48
johnny_bbye06:48
Greeneryanyone here uses canon pixma printer? i don't know what driver to use for itcos i cant find it on the printer settings06:54
adamonline45Greenery: I searched long and hard for that!  Never found it; ended up getting a free HP with my macbook... But I heard that there was a Mac driver available that could be modified to work with *nix.  Never found it... I miss my pixma :(  In retrospect, I think I had it working on my first Ubuntu install.  It was a pixma 5000, and I had to use the 4000 or 4100 or 4900... I don't remember...  :/  Hope that somewhat helps.  There's a s07:00
Greeneryadamonline45: o well thanks, i tried the driver for iP4000 available in kubuntu, test print prints 1/4 size of the A4 page07:09
adamonline45Greenery: No problem!  I had that same issue, I remember...07:13
adamonline45If Adept Updater says a new distribution version is available, does that mean an upgrade from my current feisty version, or an upgrade of Adept Updater?07:14
epimeth!firewall07:17
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:17
Greeneryadamonline45: i think its an upgrade to kubuntu gutsy, not adept07:18
david__Holaa!07:20
david__ay alguien?07:20
ardchoille!es | david__07:21
ubotudavid__: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.07:21
ere4si!pt07:21
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.07:21
adamonline45On a macbook, does anyone know what the motion sensor thing is about? Do I need to enable my iSight camera?07:32
krautmoin07:41
surgyhow do i make a program start automaticly when i log in?08:04
ardchoille!autostart08:05
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.08:05
surgyardchoille: thnx, now how do i make gaim automaticly sign me into a certain account?08:07
surgyand also how do i make a "link" ?08:07
ardchoillesurgy: I;ve never used gaim, perhaps ask in #ubuntu since gaim is a gnome app08:07
ardchoille!link08:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about link - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:07
surgy?08:08
adamonline45surgy: I just installed pidgin, works great... It's the new version of GAIM...08:09
ardchoillesurgy: To make a link:  ln -s /path/target /path/name-of-link08:09
emilsedghgaim has nothing againts kopete...i cannot understand why people are still using it08:09
adamonline45does kopete use the AIM protocol too?08:10
ardchoilleYes08:10
surgyardchoille: where /path/target is the path to the executable and /path/name-of-link is where you want the link to be ?08:10
ardchoillesurgy: Right08:10
adamonline45ardchoille: What makes it superior, if you don't mind my asking?08:10
ardchoilleadamonline45: What makes what superior?08:10
adamonline45ardchoille: Oh sorry, I meant to ask emilsedgh.  In reference to kopete08:11
ardchoilleadamonline45: Ah, ok08:11
emilsedghadamonline45: sorry my english isnt very well, i didnt get what did you mean :)08:12
adamonline45emilsedgh: does it provide dependable AIM protocol video chat and file transfers?08:12
emilsedghadamonline45: it has aim, but i dont use it.it has video support for yahoo and msn, i dont know about aim.also file transferin is there but for yahoo it doesnt work very well (because of protocol changes in yahoo i think)08:13
adamonline45emilsedgh: Oh cool, I'll check it out!08:13
adamonline45I'm new to KDE, so I'm looking forward to all the new software to try :)  Does anyone know a gedit-like editor?  I can only seem to find openoffice08:14
emilsedghadamonline45: but its really full-featured and comfortable and customizable.do not forget to customize, default settings sucks!08:14
emilsedghadamonline45: Kate Rocks!08:14
emilsedghadamonline45: gedit is crap againt Kate.Kate is 'K'DE's 'A'Dvanced 'T'ext 'E'ditor08:15
emilsedghs/againt/againts08:15
adamonline45emilsedgh: In that case, I'll check kopete out now!  And kate, I'm on it 8)  ty!08:15
adamonline45emilsedgh: Nice!  I'm gettin' started now :)  Is there a way to save a document as root if you open it as a plain user?  That peeves me when I make a lot of edits and can't save them, haha08:16
emilsedghadamonline45: i dont think so, but you could open them as root by right clicking and going to actions menu, there is a 'Edit As Root' option08:17
adamonline45cool, thank you08:18
surgyardchoille:08:20
surgysurgy@derek:~$ ln -s /usr/bin/pidgin /.kde/Autostart/pidgin08:20
surgyln: creating symbolic link `/.kde/Autostart/pidgin' to `/usr/bin/pidgin': No such file or directory08:20
surgydoes that command need to be ran in sudo?08:20
vbgunzI really dislike that, having to open a file as root to edit it... you should be prompted for the password when you try to save it08:21
ardchoilleno08:21
ardchoillesurgy: Are you in $HOME?08:21
surgyyeah08:21
ardchoillesurgy: ln -s /usr/bin/pidgin .kde/Autostart/pidgin08:21
surgykewl08:21
surgythnx seamed to work08:22
adamonline45vbgunz: I know! :O  It's almost a bug... It discourages proper use of sudo if you inherently always open files as root just in case...08:22
vbgunzwhats the best way to map something out in hopes it'll get implemented in Hardy?08:23
vbgunzis there a Kubuntu Hardy channel?08:23
gruli dunno, but maybe08:23
grul!hardy08:23
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu08:23
ardchoillevbgunz: #ubuntu+108:23
vbgunzthanks!08:23
ardchoillevbgunz: #ubuntu+1 is always the development channel08:24
ardchoilleSo, what's next? Itchy Iguana ?08:24
Dragonathpff why not #ubuntu++ ?08:24
vbgunzI really thought that but never go there. I thought I ask :)08:24
ardchoilleDragonath: You have a good point there08:25
adamonline45speaking of ++, is there a good C++ development environment for kubuntu?  I used to use dev-c++ on my Win box, anything like that?08:28
ardchoille!info ksystraycmd08:28
ubotuPackage ksystraycmd does not exist in gutsy08:29
ardchoille!ksystraycmd08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksystraycmd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:29
tigeradamonline45: Have you tried KDevelop ?08:30
sdlnxgkardchoille,  I tried to use the live cdrom to change the sudoers file but for some odd reason it wasn't the same one I had changed08:36
Kris_KI'm in linux08:36
Kris_Khow can I install ATI Radion drivers from recovery mode?08:37
sdlnxgkard when I try to use sudo or even kdesu commands I get this error mesage  sudo: pam_authenticate: Conversation error08:37
sdlnxgk!sudo08:37
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:37
ardchoillesdlnxgk: I'm afraid I won't be able to help you with that sudo problem :(08:37
sdlnxgkardchoille,  cool so what you saying is a borked it pretty good08:38
Kris_Kardchoille: can you help me?08:38
Kris_Kwait brb08:39
adamonline45tiger: No, but I shall... ty!08:41
sebastiangood morning everybody08:43
corinthMorning :-)08:43
Kris_KI installed kubuntu on my computer using the alternate install cd08:44
Kris_Kand when I run the os08:44
Kris_Kwhen the xserver is supposed to initialize08:44
Kris_Kit goes back to the splash loading screen08:44
Kris_Kand then just comes up with a flashing _08:45
Kris_KI'm using a toshiba laptop with an ATI Radion Graphics card08:45
ardchoilleKris_K: See if there is anything important in xorg logs: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:46
Kris_Kok08:46
Kris_KI'm doing it right now btw08:46
Kris_Kok what am I looking for08:47
adamonline45I need to use ndiswrapper to get my wireless working.  The tutorial I'm reading wants me to put the driver in my home folder, but if I do that, will other users still be able to use wireless okay?08:48
Kris_Kardchoille: what am I looking for?08:50
ardchoilleKris_K: Anything about incompatible hardware, errors, the word "fail", etc08:50
ardchoilleKris_K: Did you install from the alternate cd because the desktop cd wouldn't run?08:51
Kris_Kardchoille: yes, actually my friend came by asking about that earlyer08:53
ardchoilleThought so08:54
Kris_Kardchoille: do i need to install video card drivers? what do i need to do08:55
corinthThe OSD for volume changing doesn't come up with my volume binds. Any suggestion?08:56
WaltzingAlongmilo08:56
ardchoilleKris_K: I don't really have any idea about that kind of issue.09:00
Kris_KI'll look for it online and such09:00
Kris_Kardchoille: do u know how to install drivers if my friend got them on his flash drive09:01
adamonline45can I eject a cd-rom using software?09:01
ere4siadomonline45: type eject in konsole09:02
intelikeyadamonline45  or   sudo eject <device>     even.09:02
intelikeyif you want to use force on it.09:03
ere4sieject -t to shut it09:03
* intelikey is very forceful09:03
* Jucato forces intelikey to.. um.. to...09:03
* Jucato leaves09:03
adamonline45sweet, thank you!  Dang macbook eject button doesn't seem to work...09:03
intelikeyeject -x 1 Jucato09:03
intelikeydon't that just nail your shoe to the floor    :)09:04
ere4siadamonline45: you can make a launcher on the panel for that09:06
intelikeyor the desktop  for that matter.    a launcher can run any command09:06
ere4siyep09:07
Kris_Kardchoille: im out going to try and find the driver09:07
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intelikeyi made my system unbootable by replacing the nvidia card with an ati card !09:08
intelikeyand yes, i know that doesn't make sense.      but,09:08
ardchoillelol09:08
intelikeythe ati and the scsi cards don't play nice.09:08
intelikeyand when linux loads aic7xxx the system hangs and the vidio goes bonkers09:09
intelikeywell hang isn't accurate.   falls into an infinite loop of loading the module09:10
intelikeyif i kill the loop the kernel panics09:10
intelikeyso hang is close.09:10
intelikey(only way i found to kill the loop is the magic sysRQ E)09:11
adamonline45ere4si: Good idea with the launcher :)09:19
ere4sisaves me getting up :)09:19
adamonline45One last question before I can get to bed... I've installed ndiswrapper and my wireless card driver from Windows.  According to a couple tutorials it should work now, but I don't seem to have an ath0 or wlan0.  Is there something I'm missing?09:20
ere4siI use one to open and one to close09:20
ere4siI don't do wireless - sorry09:21
adamonline45hehheh, right on!  There's no state checker, where you could just toggle it?09:21
adamonline45ere4si: It's okay, I was asking anyone who might know 8)09:21
ere4sion some drives eject -t will toggle - only way to know is try :)09:22
spykedtomatoHey all - I just noticed that my /tmp directory has 17GB worth of files in it - can I delete all that without problems?09:22
adamonline45ere4si: Not so on the macbook, apparently :)09:23
ere4sik09:23
ere4sisame here09:24
intelikeyi was just testing with    eject -t || eject    but it seems that the exit code is always 0 for eject   and  eject -t09:25
intelikeyso i don't know off hand a way to check the drive state09:25
oakxxi just plugged a sata drive into my kumputer, can I make it appear at /dev/sda1 without rebooting?09:25
tigerspykedtomato:  check whats occupying all this space ? " cd /tmp " then "du -h "09:25
intelikeyoakxx  dmesg  where did it recognize it ?09:26
seezerintelikey: what are you trying to do?09:26
spykedtomatotiger: umm - got a bunch of info but don't know what it all means...09:27
seezerthere is a "-T" switch - perhaps that's what you're looking for?09:27
intelikeyand no.  you can't make a "drive" appear at "sda1"   that would be the first partition on the drive.09:27
alexbobpAre there any Linux programs for recovering files deleted from an NTFS partition?09:27
_Shade_!compiz09:27
intelikeyseezer a -T switch for what ?09:28
seezerintelikey:09:28
seezer       -T   With this option the drive is given a CD-ROM tray close command if it’s opened, and a CD-ROM tray  eject  command  if  it’s09:28
seezer            closed. Not all devices support this command, because it uses the above CD-ROM tray close command.09:28
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:28
oakxxwhat should I grep for in the dmesg output?09:28
intelikeyseezer not my eject09:28
intelikeytty24 [root@dell:~] eject -T09:28
intelikeyeject: invalid option -- T09:28
seezereject version 2.1.5 by Jeff Tranter (tranter@pobox.com)09:28
seezerdefault kubuntu gutsy09:28
intelikeynice,  it needed that improvement.09:29
intelikeyeject version 2.0.13 by Jeff Tranter (tranter@pobox.com)09:29
seezerstill on feisty?09:29
intelikeyno dapper09:29
seezerah :)09:29
intelikeyLTS09:29
tigerspykedtomato: Those are the subdirectories, and how much space they occupy09:29
seezerperhaps it got backportet?09:29
intelikeyseezer </shrugs>  was just working on a launcher idea for others   and you have answered it.      eject -T09:30
seezeror if you really "need" it - compile it manually.09:30
seezersorry.. :)09:31
intelikey:)09:31
intelikeyere4si    eject -T   ^09:31
adamonline45I have a slot drive... I'll have to try the T09:31
Miha1I'm currently using Ubuntu and I want to switch to Kubuntu. How can I do it without losing my files?09:31
seezeradamonline45: :P09:31
adamonline45Miha1: I believe you can just install KDE09:32
seezerMiha1: install the "kubuntu-desktop" package09:32
intelikeyMiha1 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:32
ere4siI've found case doesn't matter for that09:32
spykedtomatotiger: then maybe I should leave it alone - ./kde/spykedtomato is occupying most of the space - but... I've cleaned up the drive best I can and I'm still lacking space (7,1 GB free out of 46) - any ideas on what could be taking up that space?09:32
intelikeyMiha1 sudo apt-get install kde    if you don't want to change all the defaults also09:32
Miha1I'd like to completely change the system09:33
tigerspykedtomato: It can be aptitude, try "sudo apt-get clean"09:33
intelikeyere4si well the -t switch is supported in version 2.0.13  but it doesn't function like -T at all.09:34
intelikeyit only closes an open drive09:34
_Shade_is the compiz howto for feisty users only (the reoios provided are for feisty)09:34
Brazilian_Joehow do I get apt-get to autocomplete the package names?09:34
posingaspopularBrazilian_Joe: tab i think09:34
spykedtomatotiger: it apparently wasn't aptitude09:35
seezer_Shade_: you mean repositories?09:35
ere4siintelikey: the docs say not all drives support all functions - on my drive t and T did the same09:35
Brazilian_Joeyeah, thx :) the point is that it does not seem to be enabled by default09:35
_Shade_seezer: yes09:35
foiblesoh my enlightenment is nice once you figure it out09:35
intelikeyBrazilian_Joe   . /etc/bash_completion09:35
intelikeyif it's not already active.09:35
Brazilian_Joeposingaspopular: do you know where to enable it?09:35
seezer_Shade_: gutsy has compiz in its repos09:36
seezerno need for a external one09:36
intelikeyi don't think bash_completion is enabled by default,  at least not on dapper or before09:36
posingaspopularah yea i see....09:36
_Shade_seezer: but i thought it would be a bit newer09:36
seezer_Shade_: ah ok. that's your call then. :)09:37
posingaspopularBrazilian_Joe: when you tab twice, it shows all the possible ranges of packages which can be installed. until it reaches a point where no other packages are possibles, then tab autcompletes09:37
seezerBrazilian_Joe: using gutsy?09:37
Brazilian_Joeseezer: Yes, gutsy09:38
ardchoille_Shade_: If you install something outside the package manager, you'll have to manually update it for bug fixes, security updates, etc.09:38
_Shade_ardchoille: i know09:38
tigerspykedtomato: try to find where the space occupied is, is it system wide (/etc, /var, /tmp, /opt)? or is in your home directory ( /home)?09:38
intelikeyprobably trash   ^09:39
seezerspykedtomato: try a 'sudo du -hs /*'09:39
tigerspykedtomato: try first this " cd ~" then " du -h | grep ^[0-9]*G"09:39
seezerBrazilian_Joe: it works for me without any manual fiddling09:40
intelikeyyep this box is unbootable !   crap.09:40
Brazilian_Joeseezer: I tried it some time ago, and it didn't work. now it works :)09:40
spykedtomatotiger: oh wow - seems to be one of my firefox plugins (?!)09:41
seezerBrazilian_Joe: ah ok ;)09:42
spykedtomatodu: `./.mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof': Permission denied  15G09:42
seezerspykedtomato: so we have another konqi user? :)09:42
spykedtomatoyup09:43
spykedtomatoI actually made the switch a couple weeks ago ;)09:43
spykedtomatojust haven't gotten around to dumping ff09:43
kriswhat is the default name for a flash drive09:43
seezerhehe. i'm still missing good adblock handling. but i guess kde4 will be my friend..09:43
krisso i can mount it09:43
tigerspykedtomato: wow, 15G. This is quite surprising,  glad you found it09:43
seezerkris: sd[a-z]09:44
seezerkris: try `dmesg | tail`09:44
spykedtomatotiger: me too - i couldn't figure out where all my space went09:44
intelikeykris the usb bus is normally found as an scsi device.   sd*09:44
intelikeya 15g file....   rediculess   ff should know better.09:45
intelikeyoh that's a dir not a file  ?09:46
spykedtomatoummmm09:46
seezerintelikey: if it's a addon you can't really blame ff09:46
spykedtomatoaccess is denied to that directory to both user and root??09:46
tigerspykedtomato: what, try "ls -l"09:47
intelikeyaccess is not denied to root if it's a dir.   if it's a socket maybe..09:47
intelikeyroot could care less about permissions09:47
spykedtomato... ls -l says I own it09:48
seezerspykedtomato: `ls -l ./.mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/ | grep refspo`09:48
tigerspykedtomato: do you have the write permissions on it ? "chmod 755 "09:48
seezeryou don't need write permission - but execute09:49
seezer(if it's a directory)09:49
intelikeyread+exec is preferable09:49
intelikeybut again root doesn't need permission.09:50
spykedtomatonow I'm getting confused09:51
tigerspykedtomato: can't be mounted on read-only partition ( ntfs ) or something like that?09:51
spykedtomatowait09:51
seezerspykedtomato: try lsattr /path/to/file09:51
spykedtomatoi'm just gonna try and get rid of that firefox plugin and see what happens09:52
intelikeyexample.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d72f3087409:52
seezerand tell us if its a file or not ;)09:52
tigerspykedtomato: just out of curiosity which plugin is that ?09:54
spykedtomatorefspoof09:54
spykedtomatodon't ask ;)09:54
spykedtomatolsattr .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof/09:54
spykedtomato.mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof/.: Permission denied09:54
seezerlsattr .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof09:55
seezerwithout the slash09:55
intelikeyand sudo it09:55
seezererr. hm09:55
spykedtomatoumm09:55
spykedtomatothat gave me no output09:55
seezerlsattr -d .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof09:56
spykedtomatolol09:56
spykedtomato------------------ .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof09:56
seezerls -l .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/ | grep refspoof09:57
intelikeywell it's not that.    but i'm thinking it's probably exec perms on the basedir but no read perms.09:57
spykedtomatodrw-r--r--  2 spyke spyke    4096 2006-11-12 14:46 refspoof09:57
squarebottleI'm getting some kind of apt error. Can anybody help me out? http://pastebin.com/d713c76d009:57
spykedtomato4096??09:57
seezerchmod u+x .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof09:57
intelikeyread no exec   so i was backwards09:57
spykedtomatoseezer: done09:58
intelikeybut sudo ls .mozilla/firefox/n5lnvcnu.default/refspoof     should still work.09:58
seezerspykedtomato: then try your du again09:58
seezerit's probably worth it to follow complete instructions.. :)09:59
spykedtomato15G     .09:59
spykedtomatowhat's that?09:59
intelikeydot . is the present working directory09:59
spykedtomatok10:00
intelikeytwo dots  ..  the parent to the present.10:00
spykedtomatothe total of everything in my home folder then10:00
intelikeyyep10:00
stdinsquarebottle: looks like you have to remove gwenrename and gwenview, then install gwenrename after10:00
spykedtomato*sigh*10:01
spykedtomatoThere's still something eating a lot of space then10:01
spykedtomatosomewhere10:01
spykedtomato7GB free out of 46...10:01
intelikeydoesn't kde have that graphic disk usage thingy ?10:02
intelikeypie are []10:02
spykedtomatowould be great10:03
tigerthere is filelight, have you tried it ?10:03
spykedtomatoi can see that there are a LOT of dirs for things I've uninstalled ages ago10:03
spykedtomato.songbird for example10:03
intelikeysomething default in the kde   don't recall the name10:03
greythanetry gdmap10:03
spykedtomatoog crap10:03
spykedtomatooh*10:03
intelikeyksysguard maybe.10:03
intelikeyidk.10:04
spykedtomato*sigh* - before I switched from gnome to kubuntu I installed a newer version of f-spot - it's still here10:04
spykedtomatocan I just delete the f-spot dir??10:04
tigerspykedtomato: you are the one who can decide :D ? check the contents10:05
intelikeyyou can delete anything in the home dir without breaking the system.     general rule 48310:05
spykedtomatotiger: i had installed it from source - can't uninstall it with adept or apt-get...10:05
spykedtomatoand I don't have the source anymore...10:05
spykedtomatointelikey: so I can just delete the hidden dirs for programs I've uninstalled?10:06
tigerspykedtomato: I've not used f-spot, maybe it stores your pictures or something like that. Otherwise, you can delete its directory safely10:06
spykedtomatotiger: thanks10:06
farekocan anyone help me? if i just copy all contains of install CD on flash drive, will i be able to use it ti install kubuntu?10:06
tigerspykedtomato: u r welcome10:07
intelikeyyes.    you can rm -r ~/.*   if you want.   it won't break the system.   but it will undo all your user configs   and gui type changes you have made.10:07
intelikeynot to mention free up 15g of space and loose all data in the home10:08
spykedtomato?10:08
tigerintelikey: such command will remove all your settings !10:08
spykedtomatohow sweet of you10:09
intelikeytiger yes all of that users personal configs   that's what i said.10:09
tigerintelikey: I just wanted to warn him ;=)10:09
farekoppl can you help me pls?10:10
intelikeyfareko if it will boot,  yes.10:10
farekook10:10
farekoi hope it will10:10
spykedtomatotiger: one more question?10:10
farekothx10:10
intelikeywelcome10:11
tigerspykedtomato: yep, ask !10:11
spykedtomatotiger: looking at f-spot, did a locate to see where the files were, and came up with this: http://pastebin.com/d4769b1f810:11
spykedtomatoso... how the heck do I get rid of it?? lol10:11
farekow8 i mean are the files located on CD is what makes the CD bootable?10:11
farekonot some specific "boot sector"?10:12
intelikeyfareko yes there has to be a boot sector on any bootable disk10:12
farekoso how do i make my flash drive10:12
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farekobootable10:12
tigerspykedtomato: an easy way would be, to download the f-spot package that you installed, and try to configure it then install it, finally uninstall it10:12
intelikeyfareko ummm grub maybe ?10:13
intelikeyor lilo   or syslinux10:13
farekooh10:13
intelikey!boot10:13
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:13
farekoi dont have a floppy drive in my pc10:14
spykedtomatotiger: if only  I could remember which one it was... ;)10:14
intelikeythe last two links might help   ^10:14
intelikeythings that work on a floppy should also work on a flash drive10:14
spykedtomatotiger: it was when feisty first came out with f-spot - there was a bug in the version that didn't allow uploading to flickr10:14
farekoi guess i'll go experiment then......10:14
tigerspykedtomato: I think the version won't matter that much, try to download any f-spot and do the rest10:15
spykedtomatotiger: ok - i'll try10:15
spykedtomatotiger: do I need to install from source or could i just install with apt?10:16
SatManUKj kubuntu-offtopic#10:16
SatManUKj kubuntu-offtopic10:16
intelikey/j10:16
tigerspykedtomato: apt will install it under /usr, while from source will do it under /usr/local .. so you need to use the source10:16
intelikeycipotffo-utnubuk# j\10:17
spykedtomatook10:17
spykedtomatothanks10:17
Jucatotiger, spykedtomato: installing from source will still install in /usr by default, unless specifically told not to10:18
spykedtomatoeww10:18
Jucatorev intelikey10:18
spykedtomatoJucato: so - any idea how I can get rid of f-spot now that I'm using kubuntu?? ;)10:19
tigerit depends on the package it self10:19
spykedtomatojust to be funny, f-spot.org is dead lol10:19
spykedtomatoso - no source ;)10:19
Jucatotiger: hence the "unless specifically told not to"10:19
Jucatospykedtomato: unfortunately, the only idea I have was tiger's10:19
tigerthen to be sure, use --prefix=/usr/local10:19
intelikeyah spykedtomato excuse me.   that package can be removed via apt.10:20
posingaspopularhey Jucato10:20
spykedtomatointelikey: nope - i tried10:20
Jucatoey posingaspopular10:20
intelikeyyour pastebin says it can     /var/lib/dpkg/info/f-spot.list10:20
Jucatointelikey: if installed using plain make install?10:20
spykedtomato??10:20
tigerintelikey: no, it can't be .. it is located under /usr/local10:20
posingaspopularJucato: i sent you a pm. ;p10:20
intelikeytiger his pastebin says that a deb package is install10:21
Jucatoposingaspopular: yeah hold on.. I just got back :P10:21
tigerspykedtomato, intelikey: then try dpkg -L f-spot10:21
Jucatoit could also be a residue of a previous f-spot .deb10:22
Jucatobut dpkg -l should tell10:22
SatManUKi still want to know how to load the additional levels into pingus - #pingus is quiet at the moment (these are the official levels like halloween etc)10:22
intelikeyJucato true.  at any rate if a full removal is desired why not use the output of that "locate"  as an rm list ?10:22
SatManUKi completed tutorial island so many times its not fare..10:22
SatManUKWindows version loads them ok..10:23
spykedtomato~$ dpkg -l f-spot10:23
spykedtomatoDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold10:23
spykedtomato| Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend10:23
spykedtomato|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)10:23
spykedtomatorc  f-spot         0.3.5-0ubuntu2 personal photo management application10:23
intelikeylooks like a flood comming10:23
Jucatointelikey: it can. just not really comfortable10:23
spykedtomatonope - alll finished :)10:24
spykedtomatoso... what does that output tell me?10:24
intelikeyremoved but still configured.10:24
tigerspykedtomato: try it with -L instead, which lists the files installed10:24
Jucatospykedtomato: "dpkg -l | grep spot"10:24
Jucato(please don't paste the output in here if it's too long)10:24
spykedtomatotiger: Package `f-spot' does not contain any files (!)10:24
tigerspykedtomato: omg !10:24
intelikey<spykedtomato> rc  f-spot      <<< ^10:24
intelikeyremoved but still configured.10:25
Jucatotiger: btw, it's not because things are installed in /usr/local/ that apt can't remove it.10:25
spykedtomatotiger: omg?10:25
Jucatointelikey: yep. residue :)10:25
tigerJucato: yes, I know that but it often apt installs under /usr10:25
tigerspykedtomato: look, the easier way is to unpack your f-spot-3.0.tar.gz, configure --prefix=/usr/local, install , then uninstall10:26
Jucatoapt does, but dpkg can install anywhere the .deb tells it to and still be able to remove it :)10:26
tigerJucato: I am aware of that, but thanks anyway10:27
intelikeyspykedtomato i'm going to mention a command: assuming that your pastebin was a compete list: that you could use to remove all those files,     sudo rm `locate f-spot`10:27
spykedtomatook...10:27
Jucatoyou are, but maybe the others aren't :)10:27
intelikeyspykedtomato use at your own risk.  ^10:27
spykedtomatointelikey: is that enough?10:27
spykedtomatomy pastebin was complete...10:27
intelikeyyep.10:27
Jucatoemphasis on "use at your own risk"10:28
* corinth 's brain just exploded due to an overload of text at ridiculously high speeds.10:28
spykedtomatoand the risk is...?10:28
* corinth vows to never again grab the channel list.10:28
intelikeyJucato if the list is complete that i'm looking at   there is no danger10:28
intelikey http://pastebin.com/d4769b1f810:28
Jucato:)10:28
spykedtomatoit is complete10:28
* Jucato has been staring at the list already :)10:29
spykedtomatolol10:29
intelikeycorinth lol  yeah    /list is not wise here.10:30
spykedtomatoumm10:31
spykedtomatodid the sudo rm `locate f-spot`10:31
spykedtomatonow a bunch of messages that the dirs couen't be removed10:31
spykedtomatohow do I remove them?10:31
intelikeyand let me guess    several  err can't rm dir     and then locate still lists the same thing10:31
spykedtomato;)10:32
intelikeylocate doesn't read the fs it reads a database that has to be updated.10:32
corinthintelikey: Would've been nice to know that before hand.10:32
* corinth sticks out tongue.10:32
intelikeycorinth you had but to ask  :)10:32
corinth:-P10:33
spykedtomatoso.. how do I get rid of the dirs?10:33
spykedtomatoor are they gone?10:33
* spykedtomato does an updatedb10:33
intelikeyspykedtomato you add -r   but that one i do not reccomend.   an empty dir costs extreemly little.10:34
spykedtomatok10:34
spykedtomatobut it removes the stuff IN the dir, right?10:34
intelikeya broken system costs the time of a reload   and lost data could cost millions depending on what it is...10:34
intelikeyright.10:34
spykedtomatothx10:35
intelikeyspykedtomato i'll go ahead and list you a command that "should" get rid of the empty dirs also  and leave any full ones.         sudo rmdir `locate f-spot`10:35
* tiger 'watching scrubs'10:36
intelikeysafer than   sudo rm -r `locate f-spot`     which Jucato would have really freeked on.10:36
spykedtomatok - three dirs not removed10:36
spykedtomatoi'll leave them10:36
intelikeyyeah you should.10:36
intelikeyspykedtomato now if you want to manually update the database for the locate command      sudo updatedb10:37
spykedtomatoalready did that ;)10:37
intelikeywell then you don't need me..10:37
intelikey:)10:38
spykedtomatohehe10:38
server_hello10:38
intelikeyserver_10:39
server_hello10:41
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server_help me on installing kubuntu10:42
corinthserver_: What are you running right now?10:43
server_windows xp sp2, and i got a "bluefantasy" virus.10:44
corinthserver_: Alright. Do you have the Kubuntu iso downloaded?10:45
server_but now i've already have kubuntu just came form canonical. Also with Ubuntu.10:45
corinthserver_: That's good to hear. Are you going to use partitions to keep Windows XP and dual boot, or are you going to install Kubuntu over your entire machine?10:46
waylandbillserver_: sounds about as exciting as a "blue screen of death" virus. Oh that's windows itself. ;-)10:47
corinthLol.10:47
corinthserver_: The real question is this - is there any part of Windows that you don't want to live without?10:47
server_OK, i've just did. Fully I used my entire disk with Kubuntu. Now my system is running after rebooting from windows. and entering Grub...10:47
corinthserver_: I'm sorry, I'm about confused by your phrasing. Are you saying that you've already installed Kubuntu on your machine, over Windows?10:48
waylandbillcouldn't of paritioned the entire disk and installed kubuntu that fast. It takes about 15 minutes. was it already done previously?10:49
spykedtomatohmm - i see that synaptic is still installed after my switch to kde - can i uninstall that without problems?10:49
server_Oh ... no, i used another computer, beside me is running kde, and i try to remove this one.10:50
Jucatospykedtomato: sure10:50
spykedtomatoJucato: thanks10:50
intelikeyanyone ever try to setup ssh to allow passwordless login ?10:51
intelikeyusing key files ?10:51
waylandbillintelikey: I have. on multiple machines.10:52
spykedtomato??10:52
spykedtomatooh crap10:52
intelikeywell at any rate here's a script that might help with that.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=dca9a35c10:52
spykedtomatoi'm running swiftfox - i want to uninstall it - adept tells me it's not installed :-/10:52
intelikeywaylandbill me too.10:52
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spykedtomato*sigh*10:52
waylandbillintelikey: I don't see you changing the permissions of authorized_keys to 440.10:53
intelikeyspykedtomato you added kubuntu-desktop to your system ?10:53
spykedtomatointelikey: yes - and uninstalled gnome10:54
spykedtomatointelikey: i MAY have installed swiftfox when I was still using automatix10:54
* spykedtomato hides10:54
Agent_bobwaylandbill um   heh umask is 027 here   what is your  022 ?10:55
server_corinth:no I have 2 Computer side by side, aready running on windows with virus and the other is running live cd10:55
Agent_bobwaylandbill if so i'll ammend the script.10:55
corinthserver_: Alright. What exactly are you trying to do now, install Kubuntu on the infected Windows machine?10:55
waylandbillAgent_bob: with 027 umask, you'll have 640. authorized_keys needs to be 440.10:56
corinthEh, sorry. Infected Windows machine; didn't mean to be redundant.10:56
corinth:-P10:56
server_corinth> yes and destroy all of the partitions inside,10:57
Agent_bob640 works10:57
corinthserver_: Alright, that's easy then. Just run the live cd from the Windows machine, and follow the instructions in the setup. That'll do it.10:58
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server_<corinth>:OK now i'm already in the process of installing from live cd. I'm just waiting ?10:58
corinthserver_: Sounds like it.10:58
* corinth gives a thumbs-up.10:58
waylandbillAgent_bob: it's not supposed to. Perhaps I'm thinking a BSD box and their ssh configuration is more strict. For security reasons, 440 would be the logical choice anyway. 640 to edit it, but 440 for everyday use.10:59
Agent_bobin fact mine are all 600     i dont' remember changing them.10:59
server_<corinth>: Thank you Corinth10:59
Agent_boblet me look into this.   i have used that script on a few boxes here.10:59
corinthserver_: No problem :-)10:59
Agent_bobwaylandbill 400 or 600 or even 640 all work.11:00
Agent_bobi think i will set the default to 400 in the script.   good call on that.11:01
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7d682b2211:01
Agent_bobthere    ammended.11:01
waylandbillAgent_bob: it must be a BSD thing then. No harm in setting to 400 though.11:01
Agent_bobcorrect.11:02
Agent_bobwaylandbill glad you mentioned that.  i didn't (still dont) recall changing the perms on anything in .ssh/  but they are all  600   maybe   ssh-keygen   sets the perms ?11:03
waylandbillAgent_bob: not sure.11:04
waylandbillAgent_bob: now you also need to ammend the script to give write permission before trying to concat the key to authorized_keys.11:05
Agent_bobwaylandbill heh    yeah 600 it is. then.11:06
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Agent_bobthat settels all the issues at one time.11:06
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d70a14df711:06
Agent_bobnow stop fixing what isn't broken    lol11:07
waylandbillAgent_bob: it seemed unbroken because it wasn't tested on all forms of servers. ;-)11:08
waylandbillAgent_bob: try this instead: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=m4b611a2311:09
Agent_bobi only posted it in this channel   not like it was expected to be portable really11:09
spykedtomatoI installed a program awhile ago using automatix. I have since removed automatix, the program (swiftfox) is still there. How can I remove swiftfox?11:09
spykedtomatop,s, I tried using apt-get - no go11:10
corinthspykedtomato: You'll have to reinstall automatix, uninstall swiftfox through automatix, then remove automatix again.11:10
waylandbillAgent_bob: if you're gonna do it, might as well go all the way. :)11:11
spykedtomatocorinth: ok - but bleah ;)11:11
Agent_bobyeah but that requires a second entering of the password without the user being told why.   they will think something failed.11:11
corinthspykedtomato: ;-)11:11
waylandbillspykedtomato: http://getswiftfox.com/builds/installer/uninstall-swiftfox.sh11:12
corinthHey, that'll work too. Lol.11:13
spykedtomatowaylandbill: tried that - no go11:13
waylandbillAgent_bob: combine all three commands into a single set of ssh arguments.11:13
spykedtomatowaylandbill - rm: cannot remove `/usr/bin/swiftfox': No such file or directory11:14
waylandbillspykedtomato: any idea how automatix installs swiftfox?11:14
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waylandbillthat's one reason I don't like those type of installation helpers. Later on, they end up not helping. :)11:15
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spykedtomatowaylandbill: nope - but I'll go with corinth's idea - yucky but necessary11:16
mosnoDolphin by _default_?11:16
waylandbillspykedtomato: I would get the script and just look at it to see what it did to install swiftfox.11:16
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mosnoCan I revert to a plain 3.5.x in Gutsy??11:17
mosnoOr is 3.5.8 somehow melded with KDE 4.0 tech?11:17
Agent_bobwaylandbill or do this   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d39ad13711:18
Agent_bobi'm finished with it.   do as you like.   delete it maybe.11:18
waylandbilllol. :)11:19
waylandbillAgent_bob: you took care of learning something new today. now you don't have to worry if you don't learn anything the rest of the day. :)11:20
corinthI'd like to learn something new today, lol.11:21
blizzzekbye11:21
Agent_bobit was really only an offer to simplify the proccess for those that either didn't know how (hoping they would look at the script, not blindly use it) or give and ide to someone that had already done that but didn't script the process themselves.11:21
corinthI'd like to learn how to get the multimedia controls on my microsoft wireless entertainment keyboard 7000 to work in Kubuntu.11:22
Agent_bob!multimedia11:22
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications11:22
corinthEh, don't think that's it ;-)11:22
Agent_bob!keyboard11:23
ubotuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts11:23
Agent_bob!Shortcuts11:23
ubotukeyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts11:23
Agent_bobthat may help.11:23
waylandbillcorinth: it's likely the kernel recognizes the key presses, you simply have to tell kde what to do with them. I know there's a topic onthe wiki.11:23
corinthI've tried all of that :-/11:23
corinthThe most painful thing is that it works perfectly with no manual configuration in Ubuntu, not Kubuntu though.11:24
waylandbillcorinth: to start with, do you know if the kernel recognizes the key presses?11:24
corinthYep11:24
Agent_bobhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys <-- didn't help ?11:24
waylandbillcorinth: the KDEMultimediaKeys page Stage 2 should be were to go from there then11:25
corinthTried it :-/11:25
waylandbillusing DCOP messages?11:25
corinthyep11:25
corinthI've written more scripts than I can count to try to get it to work, to no avail.11:26
Agent_bobcolour me ignorant,  but what is the cresent moon key on a compaq keyboard supposed to do ?    is it like another meta key ?11:27
waylandbillcorinth: and you are sure the scripts are getting called? did you try putting something in the script to put something in the syslog to be sure.?11:27
waylandbillAgent_bob: sleep key.11:27
Agent_bobthrough bios ?11:27
waylandbillAgent_bob: maybe acpi.11:28
Agent_bobodd it does nothing in windows and in linux11:28
waylandbillAgent_bob: maybe it requires software from compaq to do anything.11:28
Agent_boband the led in it is always lit    i checked it with showkeys and it doesnt register by it's self but with any other key that key is changed....    idk.11:29
Agent_bobprobably did11:29
waylandbillAgent_bob: I always found myself accidently hitting it when I used a compaq keyboard. not that is irritating. :)11:29
Agent_bobi would say does   but aren't they history now ?11:29
waylandbillAgent_bob: no. they were bought by hp. They still support compaq models on their website.11:30
* Agent_bob wonders how one accidently hist that key far upper right corner...11:30
waylandbillI think it was in the upper left on the keyboard I had.11:31
Agent_boboh really.    hmmm i might give a look11:31
Agent_bobcould have been.11:31
waylandbillI still see compaq's sold in all the stores, so someone's running their place. :)11:31
waylandbillheck. I'm on a presario right now that's less than a year old. hehe11:32
* Agent_bob doesn't shop for computers much, never have bought one.11:32
Agent_bobi don't like to pay more for the hardware than i do for the os    or vice versa11:33
Agent_bob:)11:33
waylandbillI only bought this one cause it was on a one day sale at wal-mart. :)11:34
Agent_bobohh sams villa11:34
Agent_bobwas a good store (chain) while the man lived,  went to the dogs after that11:35
Agent_bobthey have wal-mart in rochester now ?11:36
waylandbillI think they have 5 or 6. I haven't been to rochester for a long time.11:37
Agent_bobyou in the city or upstate ?11:37
Agent_bober that may be to personal.  disreguard.11:38
waylandbillAgent_bob: I'm upstate but near the PA border.11:38
Agent_bobah that's why.  ok.11:38
Agent_bobwell before i make the ircops mad again.   i think i'll take my OT to another network11:40
Agent_bobshalom waylandbill   and anyone that happened to be lurking.11:40
waylandbilltake it easy.11:41
lena#kubuntu-es11:44
leileilolARGH11:57
leileiloli'm not seeing my ntfs partitions anymore :((11:57
MinnozzHi, I have a problem with screen. `screen -x user/sessionname` gives the error known from the 'suid sudo'-bug, which is fixed according to a support site. Is it correct that this fix isn't included in the repositories yet?11:58
leileiloland /media/hda1 is all blank ":(11:58
waylandbillleileilol: how do you usually 'see' it? is it in your /etc/fstab ?11:58
leileilolfile managers12:00
leileilolshells12:00
leileilol:(12:00
waylandbillleileilol: ok. you can 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda' to see if the partition is there. you can use 'mount' to see if the partition is mounted on say /windows or some other location.12:04
leileilolhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2377/ my fstab12:05
waylandbillok. what does mount say?12:06
leileilolMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action12:06
leileiloli do have windows, am unsure about using Force12:07
waylandbillno. I mean in a konsole, enter the mount command12:07
leileilolhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2378/12:07
bumphiya is anyone able to help me with a printer problem?12:07
waylandbillleileilol: mount doesn't show any of them as being currently mounted. You can try to mount one manually from the command line.12:08
bumpsince upgrading to gusty my printers not been working in the print manager on the jobs list it prossesses then the state goes to "held"12:09
leileiloli'll try rebooting into windows and 'safely remove'12:09
waylandbillbump: have you tried adding a new (second) copy of the printer?12:10
Minnozzwhat happens if I install screen from a .deb file (it is preinstalled, ofcourse)?12:10
bumpover the past 2 weeks ive taken the whole cups system apart and put it back together again and i still get the same problem12:10
bumphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3865770#post386577012:11
bumpany idea waylandbill?12:12
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waylandbillbump: my guess is there is an error logged somewhere. maybe in the cups logs in /var/log12:17
bazziebhey there, when i use swat and i click on any of the options to change the config, i get "404 File not found". Any suggestions??12:18
bumpwaylandbill: what log should i post12:18
kaankee#adempiere12:18
kaankeeany installation guide for adempiere in kubuntu on net??12:20
ere4sikaankee: try /j #adempiere12:21
bumpwaylandbill: ive posted the cups error log on this link - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3865850#post386585012:22
bazziebhey there, when i use swat and i click on any of the options to change the config, i get "404 File not found". Any suggestions??12:23
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waylandbillbump: cups is getting permission denied when opening the parallel port device.12:25
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d-aloneпривет12:26
bumpwaylandbill: the printers on a usb port12:26
d-aloneCould anybody help me ?12:27
ere4si!ask12:27
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:27
Minnozzwhat happens if I install screen from a .deb file (it is preinstalled, ofcourse)?12:27
waylandbillbump: that's what your log is showing though. I don't know if it has been configured incorrectly or what. you may need to enable more debugging in the log.12:27
waylandbillMinnozz: how does your deb version differ from the ubuntu version?12:28
* corinth is afk.12:28
Linux_Galorebazzieb: I suspect you have swat but not samba either installed or running12:29
Minnozzwaylandbill: hmm I don't know exactly, but I found on a support site that there is a bug that is fixed now, but in my version it's not fixed yet12:29
d-aloneso I have Asus P5K-vm mother bord + integrated intel g33\g11 grafic card12:30
waylandbillMinnozz: so yours is a newer version than the repositories. You should be able to install it if the required prerequisites can be installed. when the official one goes to a higher version, it should replace the dpkg installed one IIRC.12:31
d-aloneand i have a problem with screen resolution12:31
d-alone1280*1024 is unvailable12:31
waylandbill!fixres12:31
Minnozzwaylandbill: okay, thanks a lot ^^12:32
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:32
d-alonei have read this article12:32
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waylandbillMinnozz: just don't try to force install it if you do not have the dependencies.12:32
d-aloneand tryied all variants12:33
Minnozzwaylandbill: well, screen works just fine, but there is a bug when I try to reattach a screen from a different user, because there is a / in the command12:33
waylandbillMinnozz: did you try using \/ to escape the / in the command?12:34
Minnozzwaylandbill: err, not the command, I mean `screen -x user/session`12:34
bumpwaylandbill: thats the debug log of my /var/log/error_log12:34
leileilolcool, ntfs are mounted12:35
d-alonei tried to fix xorg.conf12:35
d-alonei tried 915resolution utility12:35
waylandbillbump: you need to find out why it wants to open a parallel port. I can't say how to do that, but it's closer than you were before. :)12:36
d-alonei think that i have problems with diriver12:36
bumpok thanx for ur help waylandbill12:36
ere4sid-alone: try reading this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=494943&highlight=G3312:36
waylandbillMinnozz: yeah. escape the slash with a backslash first if that's a command that's being given to the shell.12:37
Minnozzokay12:37
d-alone<ere4si> thanks i will try12:39
ere4sik12:39
d-alonei  have amd64 7.10 edition12:40
ere4sid-alone: have you done  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and chosen the intel driver - i810 or similar?12:42
dexterkehello all12:43
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jurgentjeHi... I've switched from Gnome to KDE a few weeks ago... and now I discovered that the Update-manager doesn't auto-start... is there an easy way to make sure my system gets checked for required updates using KDE?12:46
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seezerjurgentje: adept-notifier should handle that12:46
seezerjurgentje: installed the "kubuntu-desktop" package?12:47
jurgentjeseezer: and how do I get that running?12:47
seezerjurgentje: alt+f2 > adept_notifier12:49
jurgentjeseezer: wait, I'm looking into that... moment12:50
jurgentjeseezer: ... the kubuntu-desktop wasn't installed... thanks :s12:56
seezeryou're welcome12:58
waylandbilljurgentje: install that and then we'll say, 'welcome to kubuntu'  ;-)13:00
jurgentjehehe :)13:00
jurgentjethanks13:00
* Jucato would probably add "and remove GNOME", but that's probably too much :)13:01
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cybrhumanIs it possible to mount a folder from a device on a mountpoint?13:09
d-alone<ere4si> i am trying13:09
BobDHCan Kubuntu be booted from a usb drive?13:10
firecrotchBobDH: yes it can, though it takes a bit of work13:10
kappa`I just installed Kubuntu and Konqueror is acting strange.. It just stops loading pages and then works again13:10
kappa`Is that a known problem with Konqueror?13:11
firecrotchBobDH:  Do you want to have it basically work like a LiveCD, or do you want to be able to store your settings and stuff?13:11
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BobDHI want to store everything on the drive. I want to use this as my linux distro drive on a laptop.13:12
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testareI am new to kubuntu. Is it possible to dont have a logon or a autologin?13:15
testareI am the only user on the computer13:15
ubuntuhmm, isn't there a text mode installer for gutsy?13:17
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emilsedghtestare: sure13:17
emilsedghtestare: systemSettings->Advanced->Login Manager13:17
Jucatovoicu: yes. the Alternate Install CD13:18
voicuoh13:18
voicudamn13:18
emilsedghJucato: hey, how are you?13:18
voicuok, bye then13:18
Jucatoemilsedgh: seems to be ok :)13:18
emilsedghgood13:18
Jucato(emphasis on "seems")13:19
emilsedghoh13:19
emilsedgh:)13:19
emilsedghJucato: so i hope that things will go better for you :)13:19
cybrhumancan mount mount only one directory from a file system, i.e. mounting a directory and not the root of a partition to a directory inside my home folder?13:22
Norgurhi13:23
waylandbillcybrhuman: you can symbolically link it.13:23
testareis it possible to have the swap at the same partion as kubuntu?13:23
Norgurno13:24
cybrhumanwaylandbill: what is it the command?13:24
NorgurSwap needs another FS13:24
waylandbillln -s /source/directory /destination/link13:24
Norgur(logically called Swap)13:24
waylandbill(obviously replace the arguments with valid ones)13:25
Norgurwaylandbill, that would be too easy13:25
emilsedghwhy no? i think yes.. mount /dev/sda1 /home/myUser/dir should work i think13:25
waylandbillemilsedgh: he wants a certain directory in the parition, not the root.13:26
d-alone<ere4si>  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/    i found driver13:27
cybrhumanwaylandbill: thats correct, looking at the man page now :-)13:27
testareI didnt make a swap partition on the installation. Can I do this after or do I have to put in the CD again?13:27
d-alonehow can i install it13:27
ere4sid_alone: it is working ok?13:28
waylandbillcybrhuman: you'll still need to mount it somewhere keep in mind.13:28
ere4sik13:28
PhinnForttestare: yes13:28
waylandbilltestare: did you leave space for the swap partition to be created later?13:28
PhinnForttestare: you can have a swapfile13:28
cybrhumanwaylandbill: good you told me :-)13:28
firecrotchtestare:  you can use qtparted to shrink your partition to make room for swap13:28
PhinnForttestare: run "sudo mkswap [filename]"13:28
PhinnForttestare: then run "sudo swapon [filename]"13:29
ere4sid_alone: are you using gutsy?13:29
d-alone <ere4si>  yes13:29
ere4sik brb13:29
d-aloneamd 64 version13:29
d-alone7.1013:29
waylandbillPhinnFort is correct. mkswap normally expects device to be a partition, but it can be a file if one wants.13:29
PhinnFortof course I'm correct;)13:30
PhinnForttestare: oh, and you should create that filename first13:30
PhinnFortfrom mkswaps manpage: dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=6553613:30
PhinnFortfirecrotch: does QTparted use resize2fs?13:31
ere4sid_alone: at that site click the one for gutsy - then the first one under download "766.4mb"13:31
firecrotchPhinnFort:  I dunno13:32
cybrhumanwaylandbill: sudo ln -st /home/USER/Shared /mnt/sda2/directory ?13:32
PhinnFortfirecrotch: otherwise it could ruin the partition13:32
firecrotchPhinnFort:  I don't see why it wouldn't13:32
ere4sid-alone: then download to desktop13:32
PhinnFortfirecrotch: because it's (afaik) unmaintained?13:32
d-alonei am not advanced user in linux, but i have solve 2 problems with my haeware, but problem with screen resolution is most inportant to me13:32
d-alonei tried all i could by i stiil cant change resolution on 1280*102413:33
ere4sid-alone: what is the monitor size?13:33
d-alonethis intel video card bugging me much13:33
d-alonemonitor 19' Samsung syncMaster 940N13:34
bazhangwhich card d-alone?13:34
d-alonemotherboard asus p5k-vm with Intel g33/g3113:35
waylandbillcybrhuman: sudo ln -s /mnt/sda2/dir /home/user/shared13:35
ere4sid-alone: go to that site and click the gutsy one13:35
bazhangd-alone: is that an integrated video card?13:35
d-aloneyes13:35
bazhangdo you have the intel driver from the repos?13:36
d-aloneyes13:36
d-alonethe latest i suppose13:37
bazhangd-alone: what is the current resolution?13:37
d-alone1024*76813:37
cybrhumanwaylandbill: thanks I'll try that13:37
bazhang!resfix | d-alone13:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:37
d-alonemaximum resolution 1280/80013:37
PhinnFort!resolution | d-alone13:38
ubotud-alone: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto13:38
d-alonei tried all recepts13:39
d-alonei install 915resolution13:39
PhinnFortd-alone: can you paste the output of "lspci" in a pastebin?13:40
PhinnFort!pastebin | d-alone13:40
ubotud-alone: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:40
ere4siPhinnFort: d-alone found a driver at launchpad and needed help installing it13:42
d-alonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46328/plain/13:42
PhinnFortere4si: there should be no need to download drivers from launchpad...13:42
eljefe_vmware-server is now available but i get a broken package warning when i try to install it:  Depends: libssl0.9.7 but it is not installable13:42
ere4siPhinnFort: I'll leave you with it then13:43
ere4si:)13:43
PhinnFort:D13:44
PhinnFortd-alone: can you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow"?13:45
PhinnFort...if you have already done "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh", to no avail13:47
d-alonei tried13:49
d-alonei have 8 different copies of xorg.conf13:49
d-alone^)13:49
d-alone:)13:49
PhinnFort;)13:49
PhinnFortd-alone: do you have an autogenerated one?13:50
PhinnFortd-alone: paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log too, will you?13:50
d-alone10sec13:51
Shoiabhello i need help about kubuntu behind ISA server13:53
d-alonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46329/plain/13:54
mihai_What is the command to launch Mozilla Firefox in Kubuntu?13:57
d-alone5sec13:57
NorgurFirefox13:57
mihai_yes13:58
ere4sifirefox   is the command13:58
d-alonecould you please give me the adress of pastein service13:59
mihai_oh13:59
mihai_ok13:59
mihai_thanks13:59
mihai_:))13:59
PhinnFortd-alone: how about /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:59
PhinnFort?13:59
ere4si!pastebin13:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)13:59
d-alone5 sec14:00
mihai_ere4si : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found14:00
mihai_i'm getting this message14:00
PhinnFortyou can also type "/topic" to get the topic any time14:00
d-alonehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46330/plain/14:00
ere4simihai_: it might not be in /opt - try /usr/bin or /bin14:01
PhinnFortd-alone: try moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf away: "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~"14:01
PhinnFortd-alone: then hit ctrl+alt+backspace14:01
PhinnFortd-alone: your modelines aren't working14:02
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ere4simihai_: /usr/bin for my sys14:02
testareHow can I install ATI graphic gard driver on kubuntu the simplest way?14:03
PhinnFort!ati | testare14:03
ubotutestare: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto14:03
d-alone10 sec14:03
mihai_ere4si what command should i type in?14:03
mihai_sorry, i'm new to linux14:04
ere4simihai_: /usr/bin/firefox14:04
mihai_i'm getting teh same message14:04
mihai_.. /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found14:05
administradorHi folks! I've heard that sometimes the "apt-get dist-upgrade" can be insecure. When i started the kubuntu a message was showed telling that there is a new version of kubuntu (7.10 , mine is 7.04) and asking me if i want to upgrade (or update) my version to the newest? Should I ?14:05
PhinnFortadministrador: yes, you should14:05
d-aloneXconf was deleted14:06
martintHi , My MySQL admin user seem to have loos its rights also debian-sys-maint. Any way to restore it?14:06
d-aloneand i think that in logonmenu was 1280*1024 resolution14:06
mihai_Is there anyone else having a hard time with Konqueror?14:07
martint(RIghts for MySQl of course)14:07
d-alonenow monitor system settings are not available14:07
administradorPhinnFort: will i face some problem. I'm asking abou this because this is the PC that i use in my work place.14:07
martint<mihai_> descrive "hard time"14:07
mihai_pages will suddenly stop loading for a while14:08
mihai_then it works again14:08
martintNo konqueror is very relaivle AFAIK14:08
d-alonewhat to do now ?14:09
martintHi , My MySQL admin user seem to have lost its rights for the MySql also debian-sys-maint. Any way to restore it?14:09
d-alonePhinnFort:what to do now ?14:09
PhinnFortd-alone: create a basic xorg.conf with as little information as possible14:10
d-alonehow can i do that ?14:10
martintHi , My MySQL admin user seem to have loos its rights also debian-sys-maint. Any way to restore it?14:11
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PhinnFortd-alone: go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1), login, type "sudo -i", run "X -configure", and then move the file it generates to /etc/X1114:11
vzduch!repeat | martint14:12
ubotumartint: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience14:12
firecrotchmartint: could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql"14:12
TheFuzzball!patience14:12
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines14:12
TheFuzzball:)14:13
martintFirecrotch: won't it remove all my data from DBs?14:13
martint(AND THANKS :) )14:13
TheFuzzballdoes anyone know what is required ot build Amarok from SVN?14:13
vzduchshould be stated on the Amarok homepage14:14
firecrotchmartint:  Um... I don't see why it would, but if you can back them up, I would14:14
voicuhow do i load the xgl module? isn't it in the xorg.conf file?14:14
vzduch!build-essential | TheFuzzball14:14
ubotuTheFuzzball: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)14:14
martintFirecrotch: I have them backed up, lets try it :)14:15
voicusection "module"14:15
voicuload "glx"14:15
voicuendsection14:15
voicuisn't that ok ^^?14:15
d-alone"X -configure" - is it command14:15
d-alone?14:16
vzduchd-alone: for what?14:16
Jucato!xconfig14:16
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes14:16
firecrotchmartint:  otherwise, there are instructions to reset the password here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html14:17
vzduchwhy didn't someone yet remove the '-phigh' from that factoid.. it's not new that this can mess up locales14:17
martintFirecrotch: Grate!14:17
d-alone!xconfig14:20
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes14:20
d-aloneconfig.dat is locked14:21
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carlos_hei14:26
d-alonePhinnFort: i suppose that i need to use new mod line14:26
carlos_why vmware player is not in ubuntu multiverse in gutsy?14:26
PhinnFortd-alone: just remove all modlines14:26
Jucato!info vmware-player14:26
ubotuPackage vmware-player does not exist in gutsy14:26
Jucatohm..14:26
PhinnFortd-alone: have you erased the xorg.conf?14:27
carlos_that's interesting14:27
PhinnFortd-alone: run krandrtray14:27
Jucato!info vmware14:27
ubotuPackage vmware does not exist in gutsy14:27
Jucatoreally weird14:27
firecrotchwhats up with that?14:27
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spawn57vmware player?14:27
Jucatono vmware at all...14:27
* Jucato double checks14:27
vzduchit's in the partners repo14:28
vzduchnot in multiverse14:28
d-alonePhinnFort: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46334/plain/14:28
Jucatooh they moved it14:28
Jucato!vmware14:28
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers14:28
d-alonethis is new14:28
el__hi all14:28
PhinnFortd-alone: ok, it looks good, but have you tried running without a xorg.conf?14:29
el__I wonder what does mean 'proud sponsor'14:29
d-aloneyed14:29
brunesJucato: One other question :) Do you know the module I would try to configure to change the menu from using the "friendly names" to the actual app names... (instead of IRC Client to just say "Konversation"). Finding it very hard to find my apps14:29
PhinnFortd-alone: and when you run it, run krandrtray, and select proper resolution14:29
spawn57wow even vmware's site doesn't have a deb for vmware-player14:30
Jucatobrunes: kde4? I don't think it's available yet14:30
d-alonerandr: ERROR: Communication problem with randr, it probably crashed.14:30
PhinnForthmm14:30
Jucatospawn57: it never did, iirc. just rpm or .tar.gz14:30
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spawn57dang14:30
vzduchbrunes: module?14:30
brunesvzduch: KCM14:30
brunesvzduch: Since not all the KCMs are in the control panel I have found I can manually launch some of them..14:31
brunesusing kcmshell14:31
vzduchbrunes: that setting is in the control panel, under 'Menu'14:31
brunesvzduch: Not in kde414:32
JucatoI think he's referring to kde4, which is a whole different matter14:32
PhinnFortkcontrol14:32
JucatoPhinnFort: ^^^^14:32
brunesvzduch: Oh sorry just realized I changed channels :P14:32
Jucatoyes :)14:32
brunesI was in #kde talking to Jucato about kde414:32
* vzduch will watch KDE4 develop, probably not using it until 4.1 comes out14:32
Jucatotsk tsk14:32
d-alonePhinnFort: What to do14:32
PhinnFortd-alone: use the new xorg.conf14:33
joseHi All!  Been using ubuntu no prob. decided to try kubuntu.  After login screen is all messed up. I can login ubuntu just fine, but not kubuntu.  any ideas?14:33
d-alonei now use xorg that i sand you14:33
PhinnFortd-alone: does it work?14:34
d-alonehave i use the command krandtray only when xorg.conf is away &14:34
d-alone?14:34
d-aloneNo i look14:34
d-alonelog and 1280*1024 resolution is out if range14:35
PhinnFortd-alone: krandrtray uses only "XRandr" to change resolution and rotation, while the kcontrol module changes also the xorg.conf, afaik14:35
d-alonedo i need to delete xorg.conf for usinf Xrandr14:36
d-alone?14:36
mihai_Does anyone know why I'm not able to install VLC on Kubuntu?14:36
PhinnFortd-alone: try just moving the xorg.conf14:36
LjLmihai_, hardly, unless you tell us what you've tried and what happens14:36
mihai_It's not listed on my Adept Manager list , not even after updating it14:36
LjL!info vlc14:36
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB14:36
LjLmihai_, is universe enabled? check14:37
d-aloneok14:37
mihai_LjL how can I enable it?14:37
LjLmihai_, i know the terminal way, i don't know the way from Adept. if you want the latter, see14:37
LjL!repositories > mihai_    (mihai_, see the private message from Ubotu)14:37
LjLmihai_: otherwise, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and see if anything's commented out (you can paste it on the pastebin and i'll check)14:37
mihai_Error: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/sources.list"14:38
mihai_LjL14:38
josethanks for the no help!14:39
LjLmihai_, indeed, you can't modify it unless you use sudo. for now, just open it for reading though, « kate /etc/apt/sources.list ». you can later do « kdesudo /etc/apt/sources.list » if you need to change it14:39
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d-alonePhinnFort: xorg.conf now away14:40
d-alonebut krandrtray not working14:41
PhinnFortd-alone: have you restarted X (ctrl+alt+backspace)?14:41
d-aloneyes14:41
vzduchLjL: no, you can't.. you can, however, do 'kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list' ;)14:41
mihai_LjL : I found this14:41
mihai_# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:14:41
mihai_# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe14:41
LjLvzduch: err yes, of course. thanks14:41
LjLmihai_: uncomment it14:41
PhinnFortd-alone: what does krandrtray say?14:41
LjLi.e. remove the # before "deb" :)14:41
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* genii sips a coffee14:42
d-alonerandr: ERROR: Communication problem with randr, it probably crashed14:42
vzduchgenii: why don't you get coffee I.V. yet? :D14:43
mihai_LjL : How do I do that in terminal?14:43
PhinnFortd-alone: can you run xrandr in a console?14:43
d-alonesudo xrandr ?14:44
geniivzduch: The caffeine IV is for emergency use only ;)14:44
LjLmihai_: don't. just close Kate now, and run instead « kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list ». change that line, and save14:44
mihai_LjL : done14:45
mihai_LjL: Now it works14:45
mihai_LjL: It's updating14:45
mihai_great14:45
mihai_thanks for the info14:45
d-alonePhinnFort: krandrtray was runing in console14:46
PhinnFortd-alone: what does xrandr say?14:46
d-alonePhinnFort: error message that i postes14:46
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PhinnFortthe same?14:47
d-alonePhinnFort: I tried to run it only in console14:47
SpoZenquick question about nfs, what do they mean by this: server.mydomain.com? if i want to connect to my server can i use 192.168.1.9?14:49
ciaconhi all - I have a Q - how can I permanently change my ip address??14:49
d-alonePhinnFort:I dont know what to do... :(14:50
SpoZenciacon you mean internet or lan adress?14:50
PhinnFortd-alone: doesn't it work with that slim xorg.conf?14:51
d-alonei dont now i will tried14:51
mihai_LjL : I was able to update Adept's Manager list but I'm still not able to install VLC.14:52
mihai_LjL: I'm getting the message E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)14:52
mihai_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?14:52
firecrotch!adeptfix14:52
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:52
vzduchciacon: German Internet providers usually assign to you a variable IP address, i.e. you get a new IP every time you disconnect and reconnect14:52
d-alonePhinnFort: i now without xorg.conf14:52
ciaconSpoZen: I had tried ipconfig before, but the address was gone after the reboot and the settings tool from kubuntu fails to change my ip... to be exact i have no ip, till i do this "sudo ipconfig eth0 192.168.0.100 up" - sadly this setting doesn't stay though14:52
ciaconvzduch: I know that part - that's what I use "ddclient" for14:53
carlos_jucato14:53
carlos_about your comment about vmplayer repo, it isn't in gutsy multiverse.. at least here14:53
SpoZenciacon: add that line to auto start up14:54
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vzduchcarlos_: [15:28:15] < vzduch> it's in the partners repo14:54
chopinfolks ... how can i reinstall gcc?  removing it via Adept hoses my vmware image, and apt-get upgrade gcc does nothign.14:55
vzduchchopin: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gcc14:55
chopinvzduch: ah hah! thanks.14:56
chopinonce my machine stops upgrading itself, i'll try it :-)14:56
* genii makes sure vzduch gets his coffee in an Ubuntu mug14:56
ciaconSpoZen: is that the normal way of dealing with this?? when I open the ip-configuration tool from kubuntu - i can set the ip (leave gw empty) and click apply --> "The Default GW is invalid."  and the settings are not applyed14:56
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geniiciacon: For dhcp the gw obviously cannot be known ahead of time14:57
trappistgenii: where'd you get an ubuntu mug?14:57
vzduchgenii: hehe.. you better look for a Fedora mug, as I haven't been on *buntu for half a year or so ;)14:57
geniitrappist: the ubuntu store :)14:57
* trappist googles14:57
SpoZenciacon: i guess not lol14:57
d-alonePhinnFort: with small xorg.conf the same situation14:58
ciacongenii: I don't use dhcp - I have my computer directly connected to an adsl-modem and somthing like a lan-hub14:58
d-alonePhinnFort: krandrtray dont want to start14:58
PhinnFortd-alone: can you use the system settings tool to change resolution?14:58
geniiciacon: Then put the ip of the computer14:58
carlos_vzduch, what is the partners repository?14:58
carlos_vzduch, actually i don't know what he meant about "partners"14:58
ciacongenii: I asked in #ubuntu --> they say mod "/etc/network/interfaces"14:59
d-alonePhinnFort:yes resolutions after 1280*800 are not available14:59
PhinnFortd-alone: I've run out of ideas14:59
geniiciacon: It can be done there, yes.14:59
PhinnFortsorry14:59
LjLmihai_: close adept14:59
jurgentjeHey... I've got a problem with Amarok. When trying to install the MP3-extensions (Adept Batch), it fails (not found or conflicting with other packets) ... is there a way for me to figure out where the conflict is?14:59
vzduchcarlos_: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner15:00
vzduchthe successor of feisty-commercial15:00
mihai_LjL : I did15:01
LjLmihai_: then use the !adeptfix, then run "sudo apt-get update"15:01
mihai_LjL: How can I run !adeptfix?15:02
LjL!adeptfix | mihai_15:02
ubotumihai_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:02
ciacongenii: I have now commented out the old eth0 entrys "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet manual" and added the following "iface eth0 inet static" "address 192.168.0.100" "netmask 255.255.255.0" "network 192.168.0.0" "broadcast 192.168.0.255".... that should do, right?? how can I enforce theese settings without a reboot?? "sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 up" ??15:04
firecciacon:  /etc/init.d/networking restart15:04
firecciacon:  probably need sudo in front of that, actually15:05
ciaconfirec: thanks ;-)15:05
mihai_Ljl : bash: !adeptfix: event not found15:05
LjLjee15:05
LjLmihai_, look at what the BOT said15:05
LjL!adeptfix15:05
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:05
LjL^^^^15:05
mihai_LjL i tried but nothing15:06
LjLmihai_, type the following15:06
LjLsudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get update15:06
geniiciacon: you might want to put the defaultrouter to 192.168.0.115:06
ciacon_genii: I don't have a router - only a modem...15:07
geniiciacon: as firec had, use  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart              to re-init the networking without some reboot or other drastic measure15:07
ciacon_genii: except, that I lost my conection to the inet it worked fine fine ;-)15:08
vzduchciacon_: what exactly do you need the 192. ip for?15:09
mihai_LjL : I did but i'm still getting the message BREAK (install) when i try to install VLC or any other application through Adept Manager15:09
vzduchbecause if you don't have a router it doesn't make sense to assign a private space IP15:10
LjLmihai_, close adept and try just « sudo apt-get install vlc »15:10
ciacon_vzduch: I wanted one, that is easely memorizable - and I have 3 computers in my lan - 8 are registered to my wlan - I thought keeping their old ip-addresses might be a good idea ;-)15:10
vzduchciacon_: either you're confusing stuff or you don't give us the whole picture..15:11
mihai_LjL : tells me that is uninstallable... Is there any other way to install VLC? Just download it from somewhere?15:12
geniiciacon_: If you are using this 192.168.x.x scenario almost always the ip which is routing the 192.168.x.<some number higher than1> to 192.168.x.<some number lower than 255>   is 192.168.x.1 when the netmask is 255.255.255.015:13
vzduchmihai_: what exactly does it say?15:13
LjLmihai_: no. i have VLC installed fine on my Gutsy, and i assume you that it *is* installable. please open /etc/apt/sources.list again, and paste it all on the pastebin,15:14
martintI have lost granting permissions for MySQL. My root has someway lost the permissions and I dont now how to restore it....15:14
vzduch!pastebin | mihai_, paste the output of 'sudo apt-get install vlc' here15:14
ubotumihai_, paste the output of 'sudo apt-get install vlc' here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:14
firecmartint: didnt I help you with that once before already?15:14
martintFirec:yep, but turns out the problem wasn't the PWD , but the fact that root lost all its priviledges and I have no other user with "Grant"15:16
mihai_!pastebin15:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)15:16
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vzduchhi BluesKaj15:17
firecmartint:  http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html  follow the directions there, but instead of "SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('MyNewPassword');" in the text file, just use a query that will grant root all permissions15:17
BluesKajhiyas folks15:17
BluesKajhi vzduch15:17
martintfirec: grate idea! (how didn't I think of that...)15:18
ciacon__vzduch: I'll happly tell you all bout my pcs in my flat, but I have the feeling, that it irrelevant..15:18
firecmartint:  Hehe, I didn't think of it either until I read that page again15:19
vzduchleileilol: are you done anytime soon?15:20
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leileilolvzduch, i just finally handled my fglrx issues15:20
leileiloli should be good for now :)15:21
vzduch:)15:21
ciacon__vzduch: I only wanted to preserv my old ip address this box used to have, before I reinstalled kubuntu on it...15:23
carbon_monoxidegreetings all15:24
BluesKajciacon_ runnibg a ftp or server of some kind?15:24
leileilolsorry, kdetv gave me a nice hard freeze15:24
leileiloloddly15:24
leileiloltvtime works great though15:25
carbon_monoxideI'm looking for a GUI subversion client which similar to TortoiseSVN on Windo$15:25
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martintfirc: worked smood like silk! thanks15:25
vzduchI somewhat doubt that North American TV programs are worth watching anyway.. ;)15:25
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emilsedghcarbon_monoxide: did you try kdesvn ?15:26
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carbon_monoxideemilsedgh: I haven't heard of this ware. Thanks for the suggestion! I will take a look on it15:27
lovrehi all15:28
lovrei have a BIG BIG problem15:28
emilsedghcarbon_monoxide: take a look.it could be loaded as an external application, but you when you install it you could use it from konqueror.go to your repository by konqueror and go to View->View Mode->SVN Client View15:28
emilsedgh!ask | lovre15:28
ubotulovre: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)15:28
lovrei just installed windows XP (kill me please), cuz i wanted to play unrealTournament3, anyway, i installed it on a NTFS partition that allready existed. Now when i turn on my computer i dont get an OS prompt, it just loads windows XP automatically. I cant load kubuntu anymore. How to fix it, its really important, please help....!15:29
lovre:( stupid me for installing M$ rubbish, i could of known something would go wrong15:30
seezerlovre: boot from a linux live cd (i.e. kubuntu installation) and come back here ;)15:30
vzduch!grub | lovre15:31
ubotulovre: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto15:31
carbon_monoxideemilsedgh: thanks! I'm grabbing it with aptitude now15:32
ciacongenii: if you have a song that you might know/like... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba015:32
carbon_monoxideemilsedgh: but I'm using Dolphin as file manager now15:33
emilsedghcarbon_monoxide: so use kdesvn externally15:33
lovrecan EasyBCD be used on XP?15:34
vzduchwhat's EasyBCD?15:34
lovrei guess not.15:34
lovreeditor for boot loader on vista i guess15:34
_Angelus_anyone expiriencing crashes from firefox?15:35
lovreyes, lost of ppl15:37
lovrei spose15:37
lovreand sometimes it wont even start15:37
lovrebrb, gna try this boot loader stuff15:37
BluesKajtoo bad I missed lovre, EasyBCD can be used on XP , to help restore the mbr, after restoring grub15:39
geniiciacon:HNeh, today because of the weather here I am thinking of the song  "California Dreamin'" - The Mommas and Poppas15:39
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* genii sips a coffee15:40
ciacongenii: like the song?15:40
ciacongenii: weather is miserable here - and it's about to snow :-P15:40
geniiciacon: Yes, exactly15:40
ciacongenii: do you use tor?15:41
carbon_monoxideemilsedgh: thanks! I'm trying it now. quite good tho15:41
geniiciacon: I don't use proxy servers15:42
emilsedghcarbon_monoxide: thanks to its author, but try the commandLine svn client, thats really easy :)15:42
voicucan i stop kde from changeing the screen resolution? it's set for 1600x1200 in xorg.conf but kdm works in 1024. and it changes the refresh rate too15:42
ciacongenii: pure interest... i am trying to learn bout it... complex stuff^^15:42
jhutchinsvoicu: there's a kdmrc that sets that.15:43
ciaconvoicu: can you pastebin us the xorg.conf??15:43
voicuciacon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46342/15:44
voicugutsy has a different xorg.conf than previous versions... i'm used to just tweaking the one i get by default15:45
BluesKajvoicu, have you tried setting your monitor drivers as well as the graphics card in system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/configure15:46
voicublueskaj: but i don't want to use the kde tool because it messes up everything. kdm dies, i can't get to the text consoles...15:46
voicui had to boot in recovery mode and delete a lot of garbage from xorg.conf15:47
ciaconvoicu: then make a copy of that xorg.conf and run a reconfigure... then you can try and tweak it - in case you do fail you are still left with a copy (I keep on forgetting to make a copy first ;-) )15:47
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BluesKajvoicu, perhaps you could reset the the optional resolutions in the xorg-xserver file15:47
MinifigHowdy too all.  Can anyone help me?  I would like to know how to start the .15:47
Minifigstart the 3D cube.15:48
voicublueskaj: you mean xorg.conf? because that's the problem. i usually make all the resolution changes in it but now kde seems to know better than me15:48
voicuminifig: you need compiz instaleld15:48
voicu*installed15:49
MinifigI is installed.15:49
MinifigIt is15:49
MinifigWell, its listed anyways in the menu.15:49
ciacon!compiz | minifig15:49
ubotuminifig: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion15:49
jhutchinsvoicu: kde or kdm?15:50
MinifigThank you15:50
BluesKajyeah voicu , do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , and choose the monitor res ranges there15:50
voicuhow will that help if kde bypasses the settings?15:50
BluesKaj??15:51
ciaconvoicu: I used to have the same problem - what I did was backup the xorg.conf and then ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" - that normally streightened things out for me ;-)15:51
BluesKajthen you have to make sure the Monitor is chosen in system settings15:51
jhutchinsvoicu: Are you running krandrtray?15:51
voicujhutchins: no, it's a fresh install15:52
voicuthe second one i might add... the first was unrecovarable (for me at least)15:52
jhutchinsvoicu: K, sometimes that installs by default is all.15:52
voicunope, no randr present15:53
voicuhmm, brb15:54
voicuwell i did a dpkg-reconfigure and it's still on 1024x76815:55
voicushouldn't restarting X be enough?15:56
BluesKajok, go to system settings look for your monitor and configure it15:56
lovrehi all15:56
BluesKajlovre, I saw you rquestion earlier and EasyBCD can be used on XP , to help restore the mbr, after restoring grub15:57
lovrei booted linux, but now i have another problem, i dont see ntfs partitions anymore. I have ntfs-3g installed.15:57
lovreBluesKaj: i enabled grub and now i can boot linux, but i dont see ntfs partitions anymore. When linux was starting it reported errors on those partitions. Before installing windows i could see them15:58
lovrewhen  i do "sudo ntfs-config" it says "timespamp too far ni future"15:59
BluesKajlovre, from system settings or storage media ?15:59
lovrewhat does it mean15:59
lovrestorage media15:59
lovreBluesKaj: storage media15:59
BluesKajcheck in system settings/ advanced/disk&filesystems16:00
lovrekcontrol?16:00
BluesKajyeah, either that or k-menu16:00
draikWhat do I need so that I can get firefox to play streaming video? Konqueror is doing is with Xine Player16:01
lovreBluesKaj: it shows the partitions, but there is no "Enabled" on them, as it is on ext3 partitions16:01
lovreBluesKaj: should i set "Enable at startup"?16:02
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BluesKajlovre, dunno if this will help but you may want to install ntfs-config with adept..after installing gutsy , i din't find it necessary but in your case i'd give it a try since you just reinstalled16:04
Jucatodraik: you can choose among mozilla-mplayer (uses mplayer),  kaffeine-mozilla (I think uses xine), and some others I think (like vlc)16:04
draikkaffeine-mozilla already installed16:05
* genii pops in to sip a coffee and catch up on scroll16:06
lovrenow i cant see anything in Media folder16:07
lovre:(16:07
lovre:SSSSS16:07
lovreim so frustrated. Shit like this allways happens to me, specially when messing with windows shit16:08
BluesKajdraik, make sure if it's youtube you trying to watch that you have flashplugin-nonfree installed16:12
draikhttp://www.kroq-data.com/index.asp#16:13
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BluesKajdraik, what about it, don't see any video streams there16:16
draikHmmm16:16
Jucatoemilsedgh: ping16:16
emilsedghJucato: pong16:16
draikhttp://www.kroq-data.com/videos/kb/wm-ddwebcast.html#16:16
emilsedghJucato: how could i help :)16:16
Jucatoemilsedgh: "no option for 'select on hover' (emilsedgh)" (krush)16:16
Jucatothere's an option in System Settings (it has always been in the mouse kcm). I think the bug is that Dolphin doesn't follow it?16:17
emilsedghJucato: i talked on #kde4-krush about this, they said that there should be a option for this and currently there isnt, so thats better that i fill a bug report.whats the matter?16:17
Jucatoah ok :)16:18
Jucatojust asking/clarifying. going through the wiki trying to see stuff I can confirm ;)16:18
emilsedghJucato: exaclty, dev's said that there should be an option for it on dolphin.but np, feel free to remove it16:18
Jucatoemilsedgh: no. not proposing to remove it. just trying to clarify what it is you meant :)16:19
BluesKajdraik, FF or Konq or... ?16:19
Jucatoer.. "tyring to clarify what you meant"16:19
emilsedghJucato: i think it should be removed too :P16:19
emilsedghJucato: you get kde4?16:19
JucatoI''ll reask tomorrow16:19
Jucatoer.. later... it's caturday here :)16:20
leileilolis there a TV screensaver?16:20
leileiloli.e. screensaver that renders the TV device overlay, optionally with sound16:20
ScorpKinghiya Jucato! :D16:20
Jucatohi ScorpKing16:20
BluesKajhey ScorpKing , Jucato, emilsedgh, genii...sorry if I missed any regulars :)16:22
Jucatohehe16:22
Jucatoemilsedgh: what do you mean "you get kde4"?16:22
ScorpKinghi BluesKaj. ;)16:22
Jucatoey BluesKaj!16:22
emilsedghhey BluesKaj :P16:22
Jucatogenii: could you please pass the koffee mug (the large one to your left)16:23
emilsedgh'howdy a;;' :P16:23
Jucatoa;;!! who's a;;?16:23
ternak_wedhusre: info softwarez for kubuntu16:23
emilsedghJucato: you said you are confirming bugs, so you switched to kde4 session?16:23
* genii drags the uber-mug full of coffee to Jucato16:23
Jucatothanks!16:23
draik_!ghost16:24
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>16:24
geniiJucato: Yer welcome :)16:24
Jucatoemilsedgh: yeah. 2 days now. although my uptime won'tshow it :)16:24
patricioWhat package do I need when getting this LaTeX error: /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty:100:Font T1/cmr/m/n/10=ecrm1000 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found. \fontencoding\encodingdefault\selectfont16:24
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Jack111hi16:24
emilsedghJucato: how does it feels? plasma is ok for me but konqueror seems so so so unstable :(16:24
draikWhat is a good desktop recorder? I want to record myself playing a game; Uplink16:25
Jack111i sometimes get on gutsy high cpu loads for xorg, which block all working or slow it down..any help??thanks16:25
emilsedghdraik: xvidcap ?16:25
Jucato!info krecordmydesktop | draik16:25
ubotudraik: krecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB16:25
Jucatoemilsedgh: plasma's doing fine.yeah konqueror's a bit... um... :)16:25
emilsedghhaha16:25
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draikJucato: It didn't record correctly. It was like an image and it only refreshed the areas over which my mouse passed.16:26
Jucatohm...16:26
draik!info xvidcap16:26
ubotuPackage xvidcap does not exist in gutsy16:26
Jucato!find screenkast16:26
ubotuFound: screenkast16:26
Jucato!info screenkast16:26
ubotuscreenkast: Record your activities on the screen. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.4-2.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 180 kB, installed size 632 kB16:26
draikThank you Jucato. I hope it works16:27
Jucatogood luck :)16:28
patriciohow do I get xy.sty for kubuntu / latex16:31
draikJucato: screenkast CLI?16:32
Jack111apparently superkaramba causes my xorg going throught the roof, sad, was nice feature, when i switch it off all is fine16:33
StiloHi16:33
Jucatodraik: it shouldn't be. it's a KDE app16:33
StiloDoes anybody know how to repair a demaged pdf-file?16:33
draikHow do I get Katapult to load it?16:33
draikCan I get Katapult to launch Katapult16:34
goodhabitdraik: Just click on kmeno on it ) Then push alt+space or super+space16:34
draikgoodhabit: It's not in my Kmenu...16:36
emilsedghdraik: KMenu->Utilities->KDE Launcher...16:37
emilsedghdraik: or run it from Run Command Doalog (alt+f2 or KMenu->Run)16:37
Jucatodraik: it might not have been added to the menu yet. try running from the command line if it runs in a GUI16:39
invite_Since my upgrade to gusty i'm having a lot of "little" problems16:42
invite_One advice : Avoid upgrading !!!16:42
emilsedghinvite_: ..16:44
invite_??16:45
Jucatoemilsedgh: your bug seems to be fixed today :)16:46
bazhangdo you have a question invite?16:46
emilsedghJucato: eh? so remove it :)16:46
Jucatowill wait for others to confirm :)16:47
emilsedghJucato: hm, so you will be there tommorrow? 'yay' :)16:47
draikI ran screenkast already, but for some strange reason it's asking for my password to the VNCviewer16:47
invite_Kbabel is crashing with this message :couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:  klauncher said: Unknown protocol ''.16:48
Stilodoes nobody here know a program which can help me to repair a pdf-file16:49
invite_having also a problem with network-manager that has been reported on launchpad16:50
invite_And so on...16:50
bazhangI'm the opposite--had to leave because of Feisty :}16:52
draikWhy would screenkast ask for the password to my VNCviewer?16:53
emilsedghdraik: try screencast from commanline16:54
draikemilsedgh: Same thing16:55
babeckDoes anyone know how to import the CSV file generated by KAddressbook into Gmail?  When I imported it only a few contacts were imported, and they were imported improperly.16:55
emilsedghdraik: dunno then, try xvidcap16:56
draikxvidcap doesn't exist16:56
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MeggetHey guys, i'm new to this whole linux thing, so i will need some help16:58
Meggetcan't seem to install firefox16:59
bazhangMegget: how are you trying to install it?16:59
Meggetbazhag: i've downloaded the program and unzipped it but then i'm stuck17:04
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emilsedghMegget: try to install it from adept17:04
emilsedghMegget: Menu->system->Adept Manager17:04
emilsedghMegget: you should install programs using adept17:05
clau85hello. i got a problem after upgrading from feisty to gutsy. i got a dell inspiron 1501 laptop17:05
clau85problem is that Xorg acts very funny, I managed to get it started, but it's very slow and stuff17:06
bazhangpossible to add tracks to iPod in amarok? if so, how? Thanks.17:06
clau85I think that I have to reinstall the ati driver, but restricted-manager also brings some funny (not funny) errors17:06
Meggetemilsedgh: Adept keep crashing for me17:06
onyxcan someone help me i just installed kubuntu 7.04 alternate and when i tried running it the hardware devices will not load...what do i do? thankx17:07
clau85also at first, Xorg would just stay in a black-screen-mode..17:08
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bazhangMegget: you can install it from the repositories you know?17:09
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onyxafter installing Kubuntu, when i start my computer up the hardware devices will not load. what should i do? thank you17:11
patriciohow can I get the xypic latex package? in what package is that in the kubuntu gutsy repo?17:11
Dr_willisHmm.17:11
Dr_willis!find xypic17:11
ubotuFile xypic found in texmacs17:11
Dr_willispatricio,  it may be in texmacs package it seems.. :)17:12
patricioDr_willis: how did you find that out?17:12
patriciocould be helpful if I search a package that way another time17:12
clau85anyone an idea, or point me to some wiki or forum or whatever? :)17:12
Meggetbazhang: I'm really a newbie, so how do i do it from repositories?17:13
Dr_willispatricio,  the bot has a !find command.17:13
Dr_willisyou could of used 'apt-cache search THINGTOSEARCHFOR' also17:13
Dr_willisalso theres 'apt:/' in a konqueror window to search the pacakges17:13
bazhangMegget: you can do it via the graphical installer, or via the command line; both are equally easy17:14
patricioDr_willis: I tried with adept manager, but nothing came up there17:14
bazhangMegget: the graphical installer is adept, and the command line is Konsole17:14
bazhangMegget: in the graphical installer, you search for the package you want then install, in the command line you use this: sudo apt-get install firefox followed by your password17:15
onyxif i installed kubuntu and when i startup the computer the hardware devices will not load, what should i do?17:17
ubuntuhellow17:17
bazhangMegget: is that sufficiently clear? Let me know if there is anything you need help with17:18
Meggetbazhang: thank's, but do i need to put the files in a certain directory to run install from the command line?17:20
geniiMegget: The package manager handles which files it needs to goget and install17:21
nshyo17:23
nshwhat do i need to listen to .asx streams?17:23
Meggettried form the console but it says i "dpkg was interrupted"17:23
bazhangMegget: well, this way makes it unnecessary to download stuff from outside sites--they are from the kubuntu/ubuntu software repositories (also known as repos) and thus well integrated into the overall software (mostly).17:27
bazhangMegget: so that file you downloaded can be thrown away.17:27
jhutchinsonyx: Which hardware?17:27
onyxit says hardware devices17:27
jhutchinsThen what?17:28
Meggetbazhang: Have to go, but thanks for your help, i'm sure i will be back for more :P17:28
bazhangMegget: no worries :}17:29
onyxbazhang: as it boots up i go to the recovery mode boot and then when the diagnostics starts to go through, then it says checking hardware devices...and freezes up17:30
onyxbazhang: well not freezes but it just never completes it17:31
bazhangonyx: could you tell me a bit more? what was the initial problem? is this a new install? jhutchins was asking about that, and he knows waaayy more than me :}17:32
nshHAZ QUEZSHUN: is there a good linux sound equaliser program?17:32
BluesKajnsh for audio input or existing files?17:33
onyxbazhang: i installed kubuntu 7.04 and the setup went through with a partitioned hard drive so i still have vista17:33
bazhangnsh: no need for the caps; for asx files or something else17:33
coreymon77nsh: okay, a few things, no need for the lolspeak, english works fine, two, no need for caps either17:33
nshmake relax! for audio. just something graphical to change the frequency levels17:33
bazhangonyx: you just installed feisty? so it is a fresh install, correct?17:34
onyxbazhang: correct17:35
BluesKajnsh, what player cuz amarok has a nice eq built in17:35
bazhangonyx: any reason for Feisty instead of the latest?17:35
nshwell, i was kinda thinking there might be something that sits between the audio player and the sound system (alsa or whatever)17:35
nshbecause that would be a logical seperation of functions17:35
nshbut whaddoiknow. i'm just some newb who doesn't know how the rules about irc pidgin usage17:36
onyxbazhang: it had problems with trying to install 7.10, it had a "disk error" i tried it several times as well17:36
bazhangonyx: this was from the livecd or the alternate cd? Gutsy is really a superior product to Feisty in nearly every department17:37
onyxbazhang: it was the alternate, i also had problems with the livecd17:40
clau85ok, new sympthom: after installing ati fglrx drivers, and using the xorg.conf file that worked on feisty, I now only get a black screen when starting X17:42
onyxbazhang: any ideas or do i need to recalect more?17:43
bazhangonyx: is there a safe mode in Feisty you can try to start up in? There is in gutsy, been awhile since I used Feisty17:43
onyxbazhang: its a recovery mode and it goes through the diffent verifications of that and when it comes up to checking hardware divices it just continues attempting to check them but doesn't finish17:46
DreadKnight666test17:47
bazhangonyx: I'm probably not the best person to ask for this as I had tons of problems with Feisty as well--thus my questions about not using Gutsy17:47
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Dr_willisgutsy added that 'bullet proof X' thing. (but that never worked very well for me.17:52
onxybazhang: sorry had a little mishap... did you get my last insert?17:52
clau85no one?17:53
XBehavehow do i killall sound stuff? do i need to kill all programs or can i just kill artsd17:53
bazhangonyx: about recovery mode? then yes--was wondering if Feisty has a safe mode ala Gutsy17:53
bazhangclau85: missed your question what is it?17:53
clau85after upgrading to gutsy and after installing ati fglrx drivers, and using the xorg.conf file that worked on feisty, I now only get a black screen when starting X17:54
XBehaveis there a way to list whats using a module?17:54
clau85don't knwow where to search for further info17:54
bazhangclau85: dist-upgrade?17:55
clau85bazhang: yep17:55
onxybazhang: yes it does, and either if i try running it in safe mode or normanlly it will not load all the way, it just stops and stays at that point17:55
Dr_willisclau85,  to get X back working   you could edit the /etc/X11/xorg.xconf and chaange the driver back to 'ati' from 'fglrx'  But thats not going to give you full speed on X.17:55
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clau85I did that and not only it's slow, it's awful, some parts black, some not displayed proerbly17:56
clau85*properly17:56
bazhangonyx: what computer, wired or wireless17:56
onxybazhang: laptop hp pavilion dv6000, amd turion64x2 processor, nvidia intergated graphics card, and an intergrated broadcom. wireless card17:58
bazhangonyx: are you connected via ethernet or wireless as you startup17:59
onxybazhang: you mean when i installed the os?18:00
bazhangonyx: when you startup now, in kubuntu, are you connected via ethernet or wireless18:01
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onxybazhang: no im in vista i cannot get kubuntu to finish the start up18:02
bazhangonyx:  it has never booted up after the install? did the livecd show any problems? were you able to connect to the internet while in livecd mode?18:03
onxybazhang: no i am a first time user of linux.18:04
bazhangonyx: do you have a livecd around? of either Feisty or Gutsy (preferably the second)18:05
onxyi believe i have the gusty livecd, but whenever i tried loading that one it would come up and have the kubuntu menu of install, install in safe graphics mode, etc. and once i pushed enter an error popped up and said disk error18:07
bazhangonyx: if it is the livecd, it allows you to try it without installing--the first option should be that--are you certain that it's not the alternate cd? In any event, with either livecd have you tried without installing? and and been able to connect to the internet for example18:09
bazhang-and18:09
onxybazhang: no i have not had that experience upon my computer, neither trying it or connecting to the internet in linux, from my computer18:11
* bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.18:12
bazhangonyx: I suspect that the problem is that you have the alternate cd--did you download the cd and burn it yourself or other?18:12
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surgy!beryl18:12
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz18:12
surgy!compiz18:12
onxybazhang: yes i did burn it myself18:12
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:13
onxy?18:13
bazhangonxy: there may be an issue with the cd, or oh he left18:13
onxyim here18:14
onxybazhang: so do you want me to try and get gusty livecd and then install over the partition of 7.0418:15
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bazhangonxy: no, just run it in live mode and see if you can connect to the internet via it18:16
onxyok18:16
bazhangonxy: do you have another connection you can log in on, so that I can help walk you through this, or is this it?18:17
onxyi have my desktop i will have to sign out for a min and get the stuff ready so i can talk to you from there18:18
DreadKnight666is there any way to have konversation in the systray so i can minimize it there?18:21
DreadKnight666oh.. i found the settings.. thanks anywya :)18:22
jpatrickDreadKnight666: oh, beat me to it... :)18:22
* bobesponja_ is back.18:23
onxybazhang: i have to install mirc on the desktop real quick18:23
jhutchinsnsh: You still there?18:23
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* bobesponja is away: Gone away for now.18:23
DreadKnight666xD18:24
Dr_willismIRC - Ick. :)18:24
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jpatrick!away > bobesponja18:24
* bobesponja_ is back.18:24
jpatrick!away > bobesponja_18:24
jpatrick(in case the other nick didn't get it)18:24
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Dr_willis:)18:24
onxybazhang: what is the difference in the livecd and the alternate?18:25
jhutchinsonxy: Alternate allows more options for dealing with unsupported hardware; text-based install rather than GUI.18:26
* nsh all kinds of here18:26
suppamanhi18:26
onxyjhutchins: what is GUI?18:27
suppamanwhen trying to connect via ssh using a  newly created account I get a :18:27
suppamanYour account has expired; please contact your system administrator18:27
jhutchinsnsh: For some reason it seems most players in linux have their own EQ, and I don't think I've seen a separate one that goes "between" the player and the mixer.18:27
suppamanonxy: Graphic User Interface18:27
suppamanonxy: so the right answer is "an acronym"18:27
bazhangonxy: a couple of differences--the main one being that the livecd can show you a desktop without installing18:27
nshjhutchins, yeah, i guessed as much. might be a good project for someone18:27
* nsh would do it but has 1/aleph0 skills in the code18:28
jhutchinsnsh: The mixer usually is a direct interface to the controls in the card and driver themselves, and they don't usually have an EQ.18:28
* nsh nods18:28
nshi suppose it depends on how the sound architecture works internally18:29
M1thhi all!18:29
nshi mean, it's reasonably trivial to split a sound stream into frequency bands and then apply volume reduction to each individually18:29
onxybazhang: how big should the live cd be?18:30
nshbut it's where in the process you do it without causing delays or requiring access to the realtime clock-mejiggie18:30
bazhangonxy: in terms of MB? close to 700 iirc18:30
onxyok good so let me switch computers and i will be ready.18:31
jhutchinsnsh: Which is probably why it's either built in to most players or is a plugin.18:31
nshaye18:32
nshah well18:32
nshs'no biggie18:32
nshi suppose the real audiophiles have hardware eq's in their superdolla mixer desks18:32
jhutchinsnsh: What player do you use?18:34
onyxbazhang: ok im ready when you are18:34
nshmplayer at the moment. xmms if i want some gooey18:34
Webbmasterdolphin is behaving strangely18:34
jhutchinsnsh: Both have eq's.18:34
bazhangonyx: have you started up the livecd?18:34
Webbmasterin the status bar, when no file is selected, it always names this same file18:34
onyxbazhang: no do i reboot?18:35
onyxbazhang: and start from disk?18:35
nshjhutchins, yeah. found it after i asked. thanks though man18:35
bazhangonyx: put the disk in the disk drive and start from the disk--you may need to adjust the bios to choose the cd/dvd drive first18:35
onyxthe bios is setup to run cd/dvd as priority boot18:36
bazhangkay, then go to it onyx18:36
bitbytecan anyone point me to a document somewhere for setting up php5 under apache2 in Gutsy Gibbon please?18:39
onyxbazhang: when the the gusty menu appears what option do i choose to test gutsy?18:39
bazhangonyx: the top one is run or install (can't remember precise wording)18:40
onyxbazhang: ok "start or install Kubuntu"18:41
bazhangonyx: that is the one18:41
onyxbazhang: it already messed up a small box popped up saying: I/O error  error reading boot cd18:42
onyxbazhang: so that would be the cd i made correct?18:43
Dr_willisThats not a good sign.18:43
Dr_willisSounds like a bad cd to me.18:43
bazhangonyx: then it is likely either faulty media (quality issue), the burn speed you burned the iso at, or some problem with the iso--which can be verified by checking the md5 sum18:43
onyxbazhang: md5 sum can be checked where?18:45
surgyin comp-fusion it seams like adept is minimised and wont close18:45
Webbmastercan anyone help me with dolphin acting wierd?18:45
bazhangonyx: where did you get the cd from? the official website, a torrent or other18:45
onyxbazhang: i aquired the cd from the official website so that leaves user error in creating the cd18:46
BluesKajnsh, have looked into the possibilty of linux software for your soundcard , especially if you have a pci card that comes with software for windows ..some of these have optional eqs ...maybe an equivalent is available in linux18:47
nshBluesKaj, ah, that's a good idea18:47
bazhangonyx: that seems likely--probably cd quality or burn speed, which should be fairly low iirc18:47
jhutchinsah! New fon arrived yesterday.18:48
onyxbazhang: so i shall reburn it then.18:49
* nsh will wait til he updates his distroteque, which is long overdubious but predicated on laptop and its pretty little dvd-writher aquiescing from the unfortunate incident of the upended water glass18:49
nsh(in layman's terms)18:49
nshwait, convalescing? probably that one18:50
BluesKajnsh, uhoh :)18:50
bazhangonyx: I have to run out for a while--work related--I shall be back, but there are many other people here who can help while I am gone. Hope to hear from you later :}18:50
nshyah18:50
nshannoying thing is had just come back from the manufacturer's from being repaired18:51
nshbut i don't think the warranty covers acts of clod18:51
onyxbazhang: thankyou for that help very much18:51
jhutchinsonyx: Before you reburn, make sure of the md5sum of the downloaded iso.  They can get corrupted in transfer or (more often) cut off a bit before the end, which throws them off badly.18:51
jhutchinsonyx: the site where you downloaded it will have the md5sum to compare.18:52
onyxi got it from the kubuntu download mirror18:52
jhutchinsonyx: No guarantee that it's correct, check it.18:53
DreadKnight666how do i block people in kopete?18:53
DreadKnight666:(18:53
onyxjhutchins: where do i check the md5sum?18:53
jhutchinsonyx: The other thing you can do is check the md5sum of the actual CD once it's burned, but usually it's easier to tell your burner software to verify it.18:53
jhutchinsonyx: md5sum <filename>.iso, and download the md5sum.txt from the web site.18:53
jhutchinsOr to verify the CD, md5sum /dev/<cd>18:54
jhutchinsThe CD should have the same md5sum as the iso.18:54
onyxjhutchins: so right now...as of last night i installed fiesty, and the os installed, but when i tried booting it, it will freeze up18:59
onyxjhutchins: what do you think?19:03
onyxwhat does it mean when in the bootup safemode, says drivers are unmounted19:05
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Radi01Personally: I would download gutsy and burn it at a slow speed and then install it.19:10
onyxperfect i am in the process of do that19:10
Radi01You will thank yourself.19:11
onyxyeah fiesty wouldn't unmout the drivers after the os was installed19:12
Tm_Thi kids19:14
TimSWhat kde kicker applets monitor cpu and memory usage?19:14
TimSI used to have one, but I have forgotten it19:14
Radi01performance monitor.19:15
TimSAny in the reppos?19:16
TimSI used to have it but I cant remeber its name19:16
Remorzarhmm... in my applet list it called System Monitor... i think it was in packat kicker-applets19:16
Remorzars/packat/package19:16
Radi01Menu>system>performance monitor.19:17
lombrahi all.19:17
lombraanybody use pykota?19:17
TimSIll take a look Remorzar, thanks.19:17
TimSRadi01: I would like an alternative to that one19:18
Radi01k19:18
RemorzarMenu>system>performance monitor. != kickek applet19:18
TimSI had a completly text based one, no graphs, just temperatures and percentages19:18
Remorzars/kickek/kicker :)19:18
TimS!kima19:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kima - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:19
TimS!info kima19:19
ubotukima: kicker monitoring applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 114 kB, installed size 448 kB19:19
TimSThaats the one19:20
Remorzarnice applet...19:20
bucatoamanohello how can i do to create a widget resible with kommander ?19:21
remotechief_311is konserve a good backup program?19:25
cloakableno19:25
cloakable:P19:26
cloakablewell, depends on what you want to do19:26
DreadKnight666what's the best restore program out there?  a hdd of mine failed...19:26
cloakableOw19:26
excitatoryremotechief_311: kbackup might be more powerful..19:26
remotechief_311excitatory: ok...19:27
remotechief_311is there any program to create a full partition-copy?19:27
ScorpKingdd19:29
ScorpKingremotechief_311: dd if=/dev/<partition> of=mydiskimage.img19:29
onyxi downloaded  gutsy, and when ran it, but then it came up saying there is no buffering space avalible...waht does this mean?19:30
remotechief_311ScorpKing: thanks19:30
ScorpKingyw19:31
onyxi just got the black screen ...noo19:34
popdog123hello all19:35
popdog123i've just installed kubuntu 7.10 and i tried to play a song with amarok and it said that i don't have a codec(the song was mp3)19:35
r0y4lhi guys! does anyone know why i don't have "xmms" support in my media control applet?19:36
Radi01libxzine-1-ffmpeg19:36
ardchoillepopdog123: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg19:36
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popdog123thanks19:36
puppetmasterhi everyone19:37
popdog123by the way19:37
popdog123has anyone tested kde 4 rc1?19:37
puppetmasterMy boot screen doesn't work19:37
Kohlrabipuppetmaster: you mean kdm/gdm?19:37
puppetmasterand it give me a messege when I choose kubuntu from the grub menu19:37
puppetmasterand then after that19:37
puppetmasterit comes this messege: Sunc. out of range19:38
jpatrickpopdog123: there should be an install codec button or something19:38
jpatrickr0y4l: because kde doesn't support xmms19:38
puppetmasterSync. out of range19:38
r0y4ljpatrick: hm no way to get it working?19:39
ScorpKing!usplash19:39
ubotuTo select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork19:39
r0y4ljpatrick: some weeks ago it worked...19:39
jpatrickr0y4l: not that I know of..19:39
r0y4lhm19:39
puppetmasterSo anyone19:39
ScorpKing!find kde-xmms19:39
geniiI'm tempted to tell you to get a better monitor. But failing that, edit xorg.conf and put in the proper horizontal and vertical rates your monitor supports.19:39
ubotuPackage/file kde-xmms does not exist in gutsy19:40
vzduch!find xmms-kde19:40
ubotuFound: xmms-kde19:40
vzduch!info xmms-kde19:40
ubotuxmms-kde: MP3 player integrated into the KDE panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2-2 (gutsy), package size 599 kB, installed size 1556 kB19:40
r0y4lScorpKing: kde-xmms is no solution for me, to big19:40
ScorpKingoh ok19:40
r0y4lthere's no suitable theme19:40
r0y4lmy panel is very small19:40
r0y4lno theme fits to my panel :(19:41
ScorpKingit's easy to make themes19:41
r0y4lhm y?19:41
ScorpKingi made one. ;)19:41
r0y4lhm19:41
geniipuppetmaster: I'm tempted to tell you to get a better monitor. But failing that, edit xorg.conf and put in the proper horizontal and vertical rates your monitor supports.19:41
ardchoiller0y4l: There's an xmms applet for kicker. Do this: apt-cache search xmms | grep kde19:41
geniiLook up the specs from the manufacturer or so on19:42
ScorpKingr0y4l: the themes are in /usr/share/apps/xmms-kde/19:42
jhutchinsr0y4l: Why not just make your panel bigger?19:42
ardchoiller0y4l: nvm, you seem to have found it while I was searching19:42
r0y4ljhutchins: hm no place for makeing it bigger ;-)19:43
DM|wow... KDE is not at all VNC friendly19:43
r0y4lScorpKing: i'll try that19:43
puppetmasterok19:43
ScorpKingr0y4l: there's a .rc (settings) file and a .tgz (graphics) file for every theme19:43
r0y4lok19:43
ScorpKingDM|: why? it works for me :P19:44
DM|ScorpKing tried on two diff machines, gives me Xerrors, feisty and gutsy19:44
DM|bad errors, freezes up for a sec too19:44
ScorpKingwhat are the errors?19:44
davidbunnyhey people .. i got some problems with my wireless card in my notebook ... it is a broadcom ...can anybody help me??19:44
ScorpKing!bcm19:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs19:44
ScorpKingsilly bot.19:45
davidbunnyok .. i ll take a look .. thanx19:45
genii!ndiswrapper19:45
geniiHmm19:45
remotechief_311Is it possible to install Adobe Photoshop Elements (DVD) with wine?19:45
DM|ScorpKing although.. its has no problems with ssh19:45
Kohlrabidavidbunny: I "fixed" my wifi-problems by upgrading to 7.10, but your mileage may vary :\19:45
ScorpKingdavidbunny: if you don't find anything come back here. a few guys, including myself, has a broadcom card19:46
ubuntu__hi there19:46
* ScorpKing gives ubotu a tripple vodka and hopes it will help..19:47
davidbunnyok .... thanks guys !!! I will try to configure it19:47
ubuntu__I am having a problem to install kubuntu 7.1019:47
ScorpKingwhich is?19:47
ubuntu__It seems that I have a problem with the installer19:47
ubuntu__when I click on the installer, It does not open19:48
ScorpKinghow much ram do you have?19:48
ubuntu__51219:48
ScorpKingah. thats enough19:49
ScorpKingtry to start it from konsole19:49
ubuntu__I am running it on a P4 2Ghz19:49
Radi01Did it boot from the cd or did you boot then click on icon.19:52
ubuntu__nobody to help me?19:52
ubuntu__I am using the livecd now19:53
jhutchinsubuntu__: There is an alternative install CD which you may need, but it should work.  Did you burn the CD yourself?19:53
ubuntu__yes19:53
ScorpKingi'm not sure what the cli command is for the installer19:54
DM|FFS19:54
rohana strange and weird problem is occurring .. in kde system settings i can't get into the administrator mode of any module19:54
rohandate and time, user manager, login manager etc19:54
DM|installing kubuntu-desktop borked ALL of my VNC19:54
ardchoilleubuntu__: Open a terminal and run the installer to see if there is any error output: ubiquity19:54
ubuntu__I burnt it at speed 819:54
rohanneither from kcontrol19:54
jhutchinsubuntu__: Did you verify the burn, and did you verify the md5sum of the iso you downloaded?19:54
ubuntu__yes19:54
rohanno error message is shown, just i get back to the same page non-admin privs one19:54
ubuntu__the live cd is working fine19:54
ubuntu__I am just using it now19:54
jhutchinsubuntu__: Not entirely true, as the installer is part of the live CD.19:54
remotechief_311I must have a driver for a PCMCIA to USB 2.0 - Card (Kubuntu Gutsy)19:55
geniirohan: Are you trying to access it from the default first user that was made when you installed ? eg: does that user have sudo rights19:55
Radi01rohan:  is it a new install?19:55
rohanalso can someone please show me the output of cat /etc/timezone ?19:55
ScorpKingi tried  to install 7.10 on a box today but the installer wouldn't start. so same problem here19:55
rohangenii: yes, the user has sudo privs and i've edited sudoers to add nopasswd for myself19:55
rohanRadi01: fresh install, been using it from a month or so19:55
rohanproblem occurred recently only19:56
Radi01k19:56
ubuntu__what should i write to run the installer from terminal?19:56
jhutchinsrohan: Have you rebooted?19:56
rohanjhutchins: should i ? :o19:56
Radi01lol yes19:56
jhutchinsrohan: Sometimes timestamps get out of sync.19:56
ardchoilleubuntu__: ubiquity19:56
rohanalso, can somone please show me their /etc/timezone file ? here it is - $ cat /etc/timezone19:56
rohanUser defined19:56
rohani think it should be Asia/Calcutta for me ..19:56
ubuntu__I wrote but nothing19:57
DM|Whats the command to uninstall KDE? its  borked everything19:57
rohanwhat could've changed it to "User Defined"19:57
DM|!removekde19:57
ubotuWant to remove gnome/kde/xfce completely? Look at debfoster, it's a great help19:57
ScorpKingrohan: Africa/Johannesburg on this box19:57
rohanDM|: do you mean the menus etc ?19:57
ubuntu__it try to run and then nothing19:57
ubuntu__no eror output19:57
rohanScorpKing: omfg .. something _really_ weird is happening19:57
DM|rohan i mean all of KDE19:57
jac0b-workcan anyone recommend a linux compatible print server19:57
rohanDM|: no, i mean what did it bork ? the menus ?19:58
DM|rohan it borked my vnc19:58
remotechief_311Isn't there a PCMCIA - USB 2 - Card driver?19:58
ScorpKing!cups | jac0b-work19:58
ubotujac0b-work: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows19:58
DM|rohan i had it running perfectly fine and decided to install KDE for fun, wel not it just resets my connection to the vncserver when i connect, even to GNOME19:58
remotechief_311^^19:58
jhutchinsjac0b-work: You mean something to plug directly into the printer, as opposed to putting a linux PC next to it?19:58
ScorpKingDM|: what connection do you have?19:59
DM|ScorpKing ?, lan19:59
ubuntu__oh when I typed sudo ubiquity , the output is " BUS ERROR (core dumped)19:59
ScorpKingDM|: oh ok. nvm19:59
ubuntu__nvm? what does it mean?20:00
ScorpKingnevermind20:00
Kohlrabinevermind20:00
ardchoilleubuntu__: First of all you don't use sudo for gui apps. Secondly, you don't need sudo for ubiquity20:00
jhutchinsubuntu__: I still recommend verifying the md5sum of the CD.20:00
ubuntu__ok I will  reboot to see20:01
Kohlrabi?20:01
jac0b-workjhutchins: yeah basically a usb to rj4520:02
jac0b-workI was looking at the DLink DP-301u20:04
KomiaPoikadoes gusty allow to set up dual display easily?20:04
jhutchinsjac0b-work: Well, if it says it works with Windows & Mac, it's probably ok, but it should say unix/linux too somewhere.20:05
jhutchinsjac0b-work: Actually, if it's windows-only, you should be able to use samba to print to it, so no issues.20:05
jac0b-workI have googled it and people have siad they got it to work with fedora (I think) but I was just wanting to see if anyone on here has one20:06
KomiaPoikadoes gusty allow to encrypt filesystem at install like debian does?20:06
JiZZ0how can i change resolution in kubuntu 7.1020:07
jhutchinsJiZZ0: I use krandrtray20:07
jhutchinsCtrl-Alt-<keypad+/-> works too.20:08
ardchoillejhutchins: Which package is krandtray in?20:09
Radi01I put kima on my sys: Where did it load too.20:09
ardchoillejhutchins: nvm, found it20:10
MarcCis it possible to set Konqueror as the default file manager rather than dolphin?20:11
Kohlrabi!dolphin20:11
ubotuDolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.20:11
rohanit didn't work .. i still can't access kcontrol things to work as admin20:11
rohanwtf do i do now :-/20:12
rohanthis just appeared .. never seen this problem before20:12
MarcCbeautiful, thanks Kohlrabi20:12
KohlrabiMarcC: np, bot did the work ;)20:13
KomiaPoikadoes gutsy allow to set up dual display easily?20:13
Radi01Where did (kima) load itself to.20:13
h1st0_Is there not a way to change the resolution in KDE?20:14
h1st0_I can't find it.20:15
ScorpKingrohan: try kdesu kcontrol20:15
Radi01yes system setings20:15
h1st0_Radi01: where in system settings20:15
Radi01there is an icon monitor and display20:15
rohanScorpKing: yes that works20:16
ScorpKing:D20:16
h1st0_Radi01: There is no resolution change setting in mine though.  I have kde-core installed not kubuntu20:16
ScorpKingrohan: that's running as root so don't change things you can change as normal user20:17
Radi01ah then i cant help sry.20:17
ScorpKing!xorg20:17
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto20:17
jac0b-workdoes anyone use skype?20:18
bjamesI'm running Ubuntu 7.10 and have installed something that has added loads of needless kde control module applications to "Applications | Other" - how do I get rid of this stuff?20:18
rohanScorpKing: i think there are loads of bugs already reported ..20:18
rohanScorpKing: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/1500120:18
ScorpKingoh ok20:19
Kohlrabijac0b-work: I did, once, on 7.0420:19
jac0b-workmore specifically does anyone use the usbb2k skype device20:19
rohanRiddell: are you around ?20:23
Meggethey, why don't i get any sound when i play songs in amarok?20:26
Meggetanyone?20:26
rohan!sound20:27
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP320:27
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remotechief_311driver for a PCMCIA to USB 2 Card ?!?!20:37
nosrednaekim!hardware | remotechief_31120:37
uboturemotechief_311: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport20:37
jhutchinsremotechief_311: google the actual chipset for the card, available by doing sudo lspci in a konsole.20:38
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jhutchins!patience | remotechief_31120:38
uboturemotechief_311: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines20:38
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remotechief_311ubotu: thanks for the answers20:43
Radi01 ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ20:48
vasilisaCan someone help? I used envy to install drivers for my ATI and now everything is ridiculously slow.....even slower if i dont have compiz on.20:49
Assiderr.. does compiz work better with ubuntu thn it does with kubuntu?20:49
* genii flips Radi01's screen 180 degrees20:49
vasilisaim in kubuntu....20:50
Radi01ah: Much better/thanks.20:50
geniiRadi01: :)20:50
geniiAssid: Generally, yes20:50
Assidany particular reason ?20:50
genii!envy20:50
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »20:50
geniiHmm. i see the factoid is now different for Envy20:51
geniiAssid: The gnome window manager works differently than the kde window manager20:51
vasilisai also tried the restricted one earlier and it did the same thing, which is why i changed it20:51
geniivasilisa ... bleh, they left. So impatient20:53
Assidgenii: so would make more sense to use that ?20:53
geniiAssid: Much depends on your hardware, how tolerable lag in compiz you are willing to have, etc etc etc.20:54
Assiderr.. i wanna avoid as much lag as possible20:54
Assidthe better it performs.. the better i feel20:54
geniiAssid: what kind of video you have?20:55
geniiATI,NVidia,S3, Intel etc etc20:55
Assidgenii: multiple installations.. my dell lappy has a ati radeon .. my sisters.. frankly i dont know..20:55
Assidi would like to use it as my desktop... but i do toomany other things on it20:55
Assidand i cant get the latest dreamweaver (too used to this) to work on wine20:56
geniiAssid: Generally speaking ATI are the hardest to get working with compiz20:56
Assidgenii: and this desktop is a nvidia 8600gts20:57
geniiAssid: My laptop has an intel 945g it works out of the box with 7.10 kubuntu and compiz. Yet my other 2 boxes, an ati x1650 won't do composite for compiz, the nvidia 7600gt works with compiz but has strange screen remnant etc in kubuntu yet works well in gnome. so the mileage varies greatly20:58
ScorpKing!botabuse > ScorpKing20:59
ScorpKing:)20:59
genii!scorpabuse > ubotu20:59
genii;)20:59
ScorpKinghaha21:00
Assidgenii: hrmm ok21:00
Assidi do prefer kde, mainly cause the codebase ive heard is much quicker21:00
Assidbut at the same time. i do want it to work right21:00
Assidmy kubuntu installation (final release) keeps acting super strange.. like it wants to update to final.. and im like wtf21:01
mneisenHi, when i want to transform a PS to PDF using ps2pdf, the resulting PDF has letter format instead of A4 format. Any hints?! Thanks in advance!21:01
ScorpKingmneisen: man ps2pdf . maybe that will help21:02
mneisenScorpKing: Thanks for the pointer, but i already Read The Fine Manual ... :-D21:03
ScorpKinghmm.. google? ;)21:03
mneisenwill try21:03
ScorpKingand try ##linux as well21:04
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bjamesI'm running ubuntu and for some reason a kde application called "CGI Scripts" has been installed in my "Applications | Other" menu21:08
bjameswhat is it?21:08
josephbrandon james?21:11
jhutchinsbjames: Well, you could try it and see, or you could ask in #ubuntu, since this is #kubuntu.21:11
bjamesyes, this is kubuntu21:11
bjamesit's a KDE program!21:11
bjamesargh21:11
bjames:S21:11
josephheh21:11
josephtry #kde?21:11
bjamestried there21:11
bjames<silence>21:12
josephyeah, sometimes you just have to hang around and be patient21:12
joseph!volunteers21:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about volunteers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:12
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jhutchinsbjames: actually, it's not a kde program.21:12
josephok, i forgot the ubotu thing for that.21:12
jhutchins!info cgiscripts21:12
ubotuPackage cgiscripts does not exist in gutsy21:12
bjamesreally?21:12
jhutchins!find cgi21:12
ubotuFound: apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-mpm-worker, cgilib, perl-modules (and 81 others)21:12
bjamesas it says "KDE control module" on the title bar21:13
vasilisaokay im using the restricted ATI driver now. 3D graphics work... but the textures are COMPLETELY miffed21:13
adyye careva roman pe aici??21:13
bjwebbhi, dolphins being strange21:13
vasilisain fact it looks like noise21:13
bjamesand there were lots of other programs like it that I removed by removing kde stuff that I don't want21:13
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: what version of the ATI drivers?21:13
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vasilisanosredna_ekim: um i dunno, hold on.... its whatever is undeer system settings / restricted drigvers21:14
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: ok...8.3421:15
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: what graphics card?21:15
bjwebbwhen im not hovering over a file, the status bar in dolphin says "BROKEN TRANSLATION", why, any ideas?21:15
vasilisanosredna_ekim: before i go looking hard, is there a command to tell me?21:15
psyflyhas anyone ever tried this? -- >http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html21:15
psyflyvasilisa: check this page out21:15
nosredna_ekim!info fglrx21:16
ubotuPackage fglrx does not exist in gutsy21:16
vasilisapsyfly: That is nvidia21:16
vasilisaim ATI21:16
nosredna_ekim!info xorg-driver-fglrx21:16
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB21:16
psyflyworks for ati21:16
psyflycheck the writup21:16
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: ah... 8.3721:16
vasilisanosredna_ekim: I already have that21:16
vasilisaEnvy is ~BAD~21:17
Linux_GaloreYeah, I run "envy" when I have problems with ati/nvidia21:17
vasilisai just tried it and it totally screwed up my system21:17
MaTiAz:|21:17
psyflyoooh21:17
vasilisaeven my desktop icons were wierd21:17
psyflylol21:17
psyflyok I havnt tried it yet21:17
adyyDC++ send me plzzz21:17
psyflywas busy downloading21:17
Linux_GaloreIve used envy a few times now always works for me21:17
bjwebbanyone able to help me?21:17
psyfly!nvidia21:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:17
nosredna_ekim!worksforme21:18
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/21:18
adyysend me DC++ for kubuntu pplzzZ????21:18
nosredna_ekimktorrent?21:18
adyyDC++21:18
adyylive21:18
nosredna_ekim!torrent21:18
ubotuTorrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P21:18
adyyno21:18
adyytorrent21:18
adyyDC++21:18
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nosredna_ekimI don't think there is a port for linux21:18
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: so which graphics card do you have?21:19
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: "lspci"21:19
Linux_Galorenosredna_ekim: ktorrent is installed by default and allows you to do p2p21:19
nosredna_ekimLinux_Galore: I know.21:19
vasilisanosredna_ekim: DiabloTek Radeon X700 Super / 512MB DDR2 / PCI Express / DVI / VGA / TV-Out / Video Card21:19
vasilisafound it21:19
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: hmm ok. search google for the "x700 linux fglrx"21:22
nosredna_ekimthere might be known problems with it21:22
Linux_Galorecant wait for the new official ATI FOSS drivers to become mature21:23
nosredna_ekimyeah, and that goes for nouveau too21:23
vasilisanot having much luck21:23
Linux_Galorenosredna_ekim: accept nouveau wont ever be official21:24
vasilisacould me having a 64 bit processor and a 32 bit installation of linux be a problem?21:24
nosredna_ekimno.21:24
nosredna_ekimso what exactly happens?21:24
Linux_Galorevasilisa: shouldnt matter21:25
adyyiours have DC++????????????????????21:25
vasilisanosredna_ekim: Well the start menu takes a few milliseconds longer to load up o you can actually see it drawing, the net's a bit slower and 3d graphics are completyely screwed up. Without the proprietary driver i cant even load up nexuiz, but WITH it, the levels all look like cucuit boards21:25
adyyDC++ its 1 prg dl films and other21:25
vasilisasame with every other 3d program by the way21:25
Linux_Galorevasilisa: Ive been running the 32 bit variants of linux on my core 2 machines for a while now21:26
vasilisaok21:26
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: you wouldn't happen to have XGL installed would you?21:26
nosredna_ekim!DC++21:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dc++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:26
vasilisanosredna_ekim: i dunno, i dont see why i would have21:26
adyyjoin  # tabaci21:26
vasilisanosredna_ekim: >.>21:26
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: "apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"21:27
vasilisaInstalled: 1:1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu321:27
vasilisac.c21:27
adyyhoo send me appz for linux kubuntu ...other???21:27
psyflyer21:27
nosredna_ekimvasilisa: "sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl"21:27
psyflyanyone know where the repositories thing is in kubunto?21:28
vasilisanosredna_ekim: ill have to restart x, brb21:28
nosredna_ekimpsyfly: Adept->adept->manage repositories21:28
vasilisaok.... that worked c.c21:29
vasilisaXD21:29
adyysend me appz for torrents21:29
adyyplzzz21:29
vasilisaYOU IS MY HEROZ21:29
vasilisa:321:29
vasilisaadyy use ktorrent21:29
adyyyes21:29
adyybut not startd torrents21:30
XenThraLhi, having trouble getting amarok to see my MTP device (zen micro)21:31
Aloneaok, so I made a new user and tried to use adept, but it won't accept my root password. I tried the new user's password and mine. neither work.21:31
XenThraLtried the forums but it seems all posts there refer to older versions of amarok (1.4.4 and such)21:31
adyyhoo have new music??21:32
nosredna_ekimAlonea: add the new user to the sudo and admin groups21:33
Aloneanosredna_ekim: alrighty. thanks21:33
nosredna_ekimXenThraL: go to #amarok they may be able to help you better21:33
george_hey which is the best torrent client ?21:34
george_at least the fastest one21:34
george_is there a way to improve the speed ??? anyone21:35
Aloneageorge_: ktorrent is what I usually use in linux. windows I use utorrent. speed isn't program related.21:35
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dPixhi21:35
george_i am using ktorrent too alonea21:36
Aloneageorge_: note that torrent download and upload speeds depend on your router settings, how many seeds and peers are also uploading/downloading, and how many things you are downloading uploading. You might want to cap your upload speed while downloading.21:36
george_but i wish i could dl faster21:36
trappistreal men use btdownloadcurses21:36
dPixwow, can anyone help me?21:36
geniigeorge_: Run 2 different clients and point them at the same torrent, works well for me21:36
Aloneatrappist: good thing I am not a man.21:36
dPixpartitions are driving me crazy :-(21:36
trappistAlonea: indeed!21:36
trappistdPix: do you have a question?21:37
george_wow is it possible genil ?21:37
dPixtrappist: yes21:37
dPixtrappist: I've got SDA and SDB21:37
dPixtrappist: Where should I mount the SWAP?21:38
Aloneageorge_: and of course it also depends on you internet speeds and what port you are using. I prefer a port in the 50,000 range.21:38
trappistdPix: I would mount it as the first partition on the least-used drive21:38
Aloneabrb21:38
geniigeorge_: I often run from two machines inside the network, 1 using ktorrent and one using utorrent and the d/l is significantly fstaer for both since they inter-share. but you can also on same box do the same thing, run two clients and feed them the same torrent21:38
dPixtrappist: I'm working with the partitions from this LiveCD of Kubuntu I'm using right now21:39
dPixtrappist: with QTParted21:39
george_but how i know that i am not dl the same file twice?21:39
dPixtrappist: I had formatted SDB but in media it does not appear as a EXT3 but it should21:39
trappistdPix: I would say, /var and /home (if they're separate partitions) should be on one drive, and swap should be on the other, as the first partition21:40
trappistdPix: sdb is a drive, not a partition21:40
geniigeorge_: point them at the same dir to save in21:40
dPixtrappist: yes, but it doesnt seem to recognized it as formatted EXT321:40
george_hmmm interesting21:40
george_thinks genil21:40
george_thanks*21:40
george_thanks alonea21:40
trappistdPix: it won't commit your changes (write the partition table, format the partitions) until you're done and you say do it21:41
geniigeorge_: But what i do is not let them share the same file but rather just whichever one finishes first i use that file then halt the other and wipe the partial there21:42
dPixI did commint already21:42
trappistI see.21:42
trappistwhat partition is supposed to be ext3?21:42
wwZ|Commio.O21:43
wwZ|Commi*narf*21:43
george_genil: now i get lost =/21:43
george_genii*21:43
dPixSDB has SDB1 that is EXT321:43
dPixformatted already21:43
trappistdPix: but sdb1 isn't showing as ext3?21:43
dPixtrappist: only in QTParted and when preaparing partitions for installing kubuntu21:44
dPixtrappist: but not in Konqueror or Dolphin21:44
trappistdPix: konqeror and dolphin show it correctly and qtparted doesn't, or the other way around?21:45
dPixtrappist: way round21:45
dPixKonqueror and Dolphin will not say SDB1 is EXT321:45
trappistwell that's not really their purpose21:46
dPixtrappist: then?21:46
trappistdPix: what are you trying to accomplish?21:47
onyxim having problems with running gutsy after i just installed the os, it begins the kernel, then kubuntu, run the loadings and preping, scrolls down the window and i get black screen21:47
trappistonyx: a guy in my office here had that problem.  He has to hit ctrl-alt-f1 then ctrl-alt-f7 iirc21:49
schnuppelhi! i installed "ubuntu-desktop" on kubuntu and now want to get rid of it.. if i try to remove/purge it does not get all the packages it pulled in.. how can i get rid of those packages?21:50
dPixtrappist: I've got now: SDA -> SDA1: Fat32 (Kind of backup that came with PC), SDA2: NTFS (Windows XP that I want to eliminate, but not eliminate the backup) .   SDB -> SDB1: EXT3   (/HOME) 10 gigabtes21:50
dPixtrappist: SDA = 250 GB   HDD SDB = 250 GB HDD21:50
jhutchins!purekde21:50
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »21:50
dPixtrappist: want to install Kubuntu taking off WINDOWS XP and everything but NOT the backup21:51
schnuppeljhutchins: thank you, i'll have a look21:51
jhutchinsdPix: format sda2 as ext3 and install there.21:51
jhutchinsdPix: I believe you'll need the alt install CD to do that.21:52
trappistdPix: ok, you wouldn't use konqueror/dolphin for that.  just boot to the live cd, tell it you want to handle the partitioning yourself, and don't wipe out the backup partition.21:52
dPixjhutchins: I've got the Live cd21:52
jhutchinsdPix: I believe you'll need the alt install CD to do that.21:52
dPixtrapist: I was doing that right now21:53
schnuppeljhutchins: do you know why "aptitude remove/purge ubuntu-desktop" does not "show a large list of package to remove"?21:53
dPixtrappist: but I'm stucked in step 421:53
dPixtrappist: where partitions21:53
schnuppelthe last thing i did was "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" and logged into gnome and played around a bit but i don't like it..21:53
jhutchinsschnuppel: because ubuntu-desktop is just a sort of wrapper for the packages that are installed.21:53
Meggethey guys, what program should I get so I can view movies in firefox?21:53
schnuppel..anyway i will use the manual remove now :)21:53
dPixjhutchins: I think I can do it with MANUALLY PARTITIONING before installing and QTPart.21:54
schnuppeljhutchins: then the "PureKDE" page is wrong ;-)21:54
jhutchinsschnuppel: It's a null package that "depends" on the list of default gnome packages for ubuntu, so when you install it it pulls them all in, but removing it just removes the empty wrapper.21:54
schnuppel(as for "Automated Removal")21:54
* jhutchins takes a moment to actually read the page...21:54
jhutchinsschnuppel: Yep.21:55
schnuppel(and i thought aptitude tracks the dependecies for later removal?!)21:55
jhutchinsschnuppel: But it does say what to do if that doesn't work.21:55
schnuppelanyway yes.. i'll do manual21:55
schnuppelthanks again21:55
jhutchinsschnuppel: They may have changed the way they do meta-packages.21:56
schnuppelhm possibly.. but it would be bad imho.. as install -> remove should work21:56
onyxin Memtest86 what is ECC mode?21:56
dPixtrappist?21:57
schnuppelit's an evil plan to force you to gnome j/k ;-)))21:58
jhutchinsschnuppel: Yeah, they're not symetrical though.21:58
Aloneahmm..anyone know about root privileges on gusty with the upcoming kde4?21:58
Aloneaseems to be an issue for me at the moment.21:59
jhutchinsHm.  Something appears to have killed my sound.21:59
jhutchinsah, that's what that noise was, kicked the wallwart.21:59
Aloneathere isn't an issue with using sudo in the terminal, but with kdesu, which I heard is now kdesudo in gusty?22:01
trappistdPix: sorry I gave up trying to get you to tell me what the problem is22:02
onyxim trying to load gutsy but it keeps freezing on me at the preparing screen22:02
giacomohi people22:03
trappistoh freezing22:03
schnuppelhm this pure page seems to be incomplete.. i count 288 packages installed but the "PureKDE" page lists only 126 ?!22:03
jhutchinsonyx: If you have ecc ram it will test that.22:03
trappistoh wayt onyx != dPix22:03
dPixtrappist: What?22:03
giacomosorry i'm a linux newbe, may someone help me please?22:04
dPixtrappist: my problem is easy to solve if you know how, I'm a newbie at this 222:04
Aloneagiacomo: ask a question.22:04
dPixbut I learn easily22:04
giacomothanks alonea22:04
trappistdPix: I just need to know what your actual problem is.22:04
dPixtrappist: ok22:04
Aloneagiacomo: well, no one can help you if you don't state what's wrong.22:04
dPixtrappist: I'm going to write it carefully so you can understand me22:04
giacomothis is the problem: I have installed linux kubuntu in one hd, later I plug another hd with win pro, how can I re-edit the dual boot for them?22:05
giacomowin xp pro*22:05
Aloneagiacomo: ok, quick question. is xp the first or second hdd?22:06
dPixtrappist: I've got SDA (SDA1 that I want to keep, SDA2 which can be deleted and format-gived) and SDB (250 GB's of free space)22:06
mm_workanyone know the cmd to reset a console terminal back to default settings?22:06
giacomothe second22:06
giacomoit's slave22:06
Aloneagiacomo: Xp wont work if its not first and the workaround isn't easy (and I never tried it)22:06
giacomo:(22:06
giacomoso you tell me: i've to reinstall everything?22:07
giacomoor plug hdd's in different way?22:07
Aloneagiacomo: no. jsut switch your hard drives. I made the same mistake once.22:07
TachyonI'm dual-booting Vista and Kubuntu.  I just tried to install Kubuntu 7.10 over my old Kubuntu install, but it halts at 63% of copying the files and gives me Errno 5.  Now, this isn't a big concern--but now if I restart my computer, GRUB gives me error 15.  How do I fix my boot record?22:07
giacomook22:07
giacomoand then?22:07
Aloneagiacomo: as for fixing your dual boot, its pretty easy. Lemme get the instructions. You will need your kubuntu cd to do it.22:08
giacomoi have it22:08
giacomosorry what is lammy?22:09
giacomolemme*22:09
giacomo(I'm not so good in english :P)22:09
trprits slang for let me22:10
giacomoa ok thanks :D22:10
Aloneagiacomo: oh, sorry Lemme - Let me22:10
giacomo;)22:11
Aloneagiacomo: ok, go to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and the "Quick Start" section22:11
giacomoI've to learn some slang22:11
giacomothank you so much alonea22:11
* schnuppel waves goodbye to all the gnome packages22:11
* dPix waiting for answer from trappist22:12
onyxwhen im loading gusty i cannot get past that section it either black screens, and i cannot exicute any commands, or the computer with not proceed any futher, is this a bad copy of linux?22:12
Aloneagiacomo: actually, do the Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader section. Its what I did.22:12
dPixonyx: that happened to me before twice, I think is normal22:13
* trappist waiting for question from dPix 22:13
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trappistdPix: I understand those facts.  I still don't know what your problem is.22:13
dPixtrappist: can you join #dpix?22:13
dPixtrappist: I need to pass this partitioning step22:14
Aloneagiacomo: you also use these instructions if you ever need to retrieve your grub after you reinstalled windows due to it messing up or whatever.22:14
dPixtrappist: but don't know what to do22:14
trappistdPix: I really don't mean to be rude, but there's really only so much effort I'm willing to put into discovering what your problem is, when I may not even have the solution.  If you can tell me exactly what you want to know, maybe I can answer you.22:14
giacomoalonea: ok thanks :)22:14
dPixtrappist: ok22:15
mm_workanyone know the cmd to reset a console terminal back to default settings?22:15
tubamanmm_work: reset22:15
mm_worklol, wow, okay, thank you, tubaman.22:16
Aloneagiacomo: no problem.22:16
tubamanmm_work: that's what I'm here for22:16
george_does anyone knows how to set 2 different clients of torrent to work and donwload at the same time ?22:16
dPixtrappist: now that you know the facts, I want to install Kubuntu in SDB that is free 250 gb's with no format, do I need for know SDA for something or it can wait till I format and start to use it for data?22:16
george_the same torrent ...22:16
trappistdPix: if you want to leave sda untouched, you don't have to use it at all.  or you can make use of it later, after you've installed, if you like.22:17
schnuppelwhom should one ask to fix the incomplete https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE page? open a bug in launchpad?!22:18
giacomoalonea: I try now... hope well! thank you again ;) bye22:19
dPixtrappist: ok, then I should chose the option "Guided installation, use the hole disk SDB", right?22:19
puppetmasterhi everyone22:20
trappistdPix: if you don't have specific ideas about how you want partitioning handled, and if you want to leave sda alone, yes22:20
puppetmasterI have a problem that my boot (kubuntu boot loading screen) doesn't appear22:20
puppetmasterthere is a messege Sunc. out of range22:21
dPixtrappist: before doing that, should I give EXT3 format to SDB or just let it as FREE22:21
Aloneasee you guys later.22:21
puppetmasterSyunc. out of range22:22
trappistdPix: sdb can't be ext3 - it's a drive, not a partition22:22
trappistdPix: but, you shouldn't have to mess with it if you choose guided22:22
tubamanI have gutsy on a thinkpad t42p, and suspend/hibernate work sporadically when closing the lid.  ideas?22:22
puppetmasterso22:22
onyxwhich would you prefer to load the livecd or the alternate?22:23
dPixtrappist: great, so if I choose the guided option I think Kubuntu will give the best divisions of space for SWAP/HOME/... right?22:23
dPixtrappist: 2GB RAM should be 1GB SWAP for example22:24
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trappistdPix: I don't know what it'll pick for swap.  the "best" size of swap depends on stuff it doesn't know, so if you know how much swap you want, how big you want /home and /var etc., don't use guided.22:25
dPixtrappist: I don't know /var /srv22:25
excitatorydPix: with 2gb of ram, there is no need for 1gb of swap.. with that much ram, swap won't even be used..22:26
TachyonI'm dual-booting Vista and Kubuntu.  I just tried to install Kubuntu 7.10 over my old Kubuntu install, but it halts at 63% of copying the files and gives me Errno 5.  Now, this isn't a big concern--but now if I restart my computer, GRUB gives me error 15.  How do I fix my boot record?22:27
tubamanexcitatory, it depends on how many users/processes will be running concurrently22:27
corinthTachyon: Have you tried to install it a second time?22:27
trappistexcitatory: not exactly true.  depends on usage.22:27
tubamantrappist, exactly!22:28
dPixexcitatory: I understand...22:28
excitatorytubaman: true, but if someone would be setting up a system like that, they would probably not be considering the guided mode..22:28
Tachyoncorinth: Yes, same error during the installation.  I'm downloading the ISO again, but I don't know if I have another CD-R lying around...  I'd much rather just fix GRUB so I can boot into Windows and leave this for another day.22:28
dPixbut I'm going to use compiz-fusion22:28
excitatory..but maybe i'm wrong..22:28
dPixI'm going to give this a good use22:28
dPixI've chosen guiden22:29
tubamanexcitatory, what if this is grandpa setting up a workstation for his 6 grandkids who are visiting during the holidays.22:29
dPixhahaha22:29
excitatoryok, ok..22:29
puppetmasterhey any body please22:29
puppetmasterI have a problem that my boot (kubuntu boot loading screen) doesn't appear22:29
tubamanpuppetmaster, is your monitor on?22:30
puppetmasteryes22:30
zibrah3edThe logo doesn't appear and it boots/22:30
puppetmasterI'm talking from inside kubuntu22:30
puppetmasterthe system is up and running22:30
zibrah3edSo you want the logo?22:30
puppetmasterbut the kubuntu boot loading screan doesnat appear22:31
puppetmasterinstead this messege appear: Sync.out of range22:31
zibrah3edThe os selection screen of grub?22:31
applecutterHi, has anybody experience with devede for creating DVD-ISOs ???22:31
puppetmasterI edited the resolution in xorg.conf22:32
puppetmasterand now the commands appear22:32
puppetmasterhow do I repair the boot loading screen22:32
corinthTachyon: Downloading it again sounds like the best idea. Your system might be damaged beyong Grub, anyway.22:32
puppetmaster?22:32
Sempron3800kubuntu is a pile of monkey poo22:32
zibrah3edpuppetmaster: xorg.conf should have a backup unless you edited it by hand22:32
zibrah3edpuppetmaster: look in /etc/X1122:33
tubamanpuppetmaster: revert the xorg.conf back the the orig and adjust the resolution using the graphical tool inside KDE22:33
Sempron3800kubuntu is a pile of monkey pooo22:33
zibrah3edThen leave22:33
puppetmasterno22:33
Sempron3800ok22:33
puppetmasterI tried this and the same problem22:33
Radi01Then we like monkey poo/Leave us monkey poos alone.22:34
puppetmasterSo22:34
excitatoryso i'm attempting to setup dual displays..  on a fresh gutsy install, xrandr reports both of my monitors with accurate details.  after i install the restricted ati driver, xrandr only reports one screen.. is this normal?  should i use the free driver?  is there a good guide for this?22:36
zibrah3edexcitatory: Unless you are gaming I have found no real reason to use the proprietary ati driver22:37
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t4m1n0does aynone here uses deluge ? I don't know where went tool bar :S How can I get back info for a files and peers... ? http://shrani.si/f/2z/LL/1OK7pghY/screenshotdeluge.jpg  anyone ?22:39
karlwhat is the name for the ati driver package? not fglrx, but ati itself. I want to upgrade my driver.22:41
excitatoryzibrah3ed: you know.. i was sort of coming to that conclusion.. but wasn't quite sure if the ati driver was good enough..22:41
sMonkHello, I have been using Kubuntu 7.10 for about a month now, yesterday for some reason GRUB decided to give me an Error 2, can some one please help me? I'm running off the live CD of 7.4 (can't find the 7.10)22:42
excitatorykarl: well, just use the restricted driver manager, since there are multiple packages.. or type apt-cache search fglrx22:42
karlhow do i get to the restricted driver manager?22:44
sense_I'm having bit of trouble with Adept. Anything I try to install, it just complains it'd conlfict with previous packages, or alternatively just plain crashes. Running Kubuntu 7.10, just installed earlier this evening.22:44
karliḿ used to going through the command line22:44
zibrah3edsystem settings -> advanced -> restricted driver manager22:45
sMonkkarl: Use the "K" button, goto "system settings" then goto the "advanced" tab22:45
karlthx22:45
karlwhat if iḿ not using the driver at the time?22:45
karlIḿ trying to do dual head between an ati pci card and a agp nvidia card22:46
karlusing nv and ati22:46
karlbut i think my ati driver isnt good for it, so i want to upgrade it22:46
sMonkHello, I have been using Kubuntu 7.10 for about a month now, yesterday for some reason GRUB decided to give me an Error 2, can some one please help me? I'm running off the live CD of 7.4 (can't find the 7.10)22:47
zibrah3edsMonk: it's a problem with the partition, bad blocks or whatever- a reformat using live CD of choice should work- if you can afford to lose the data.22:48
tubamansMonk: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/ubuntu-6.10-grub-error-2-help-534566/22:49
schnuppelis there actually a koffice4 snapshot build for gutsy somewhere?22:49
jhutchinsschnuppel: S'posed to be.22:52
schnuppeljhutchins: as in "probably released in the next few days/weeks" or as in "i want it too"? ;)22:54
jhutchinsAs in supposedly included in the gutsy release, so you can have it now, though it's a couple of months old probably.22:54
jhutchinsschnuppel: So nice of you to volunteer to help with the testing!22:55
jhutchinsHarumph.   kde.org is only listing the Novell packages.22:56
schnuppelhm ..well testing someting that is a couple of month old will not be so productive... but i'm willing to test a newer version! :-)22:56
jhutchinsschnuppel: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php22:57
schnuppeljhutchins: this is only kde4 not koffice 2 for kde4?! ..22:57
tubamanI have gutsy on a thinkpad t42p, and suspend/hibernate work sporadically when closing the lid.  ideas?22:59
zibrah3edschnuppel; This seems to point to a koffice 2 package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/koffice2/1.9.95-0ubuntu222:59
walkoverHey everybody! Im running kubuntu gutsy and i want that fancy 3d desktop. I just can't seem to find it in the repositories. I search for beryl, compiz and emerald and i found nothing! Is it called something else or do i need another mirror? In that case - Which?.23:00
schnuppelzibrah3ed:  thanks!23:00
walkoveranyone?23:01
zibrah3edwalkover: Make sure you have the universe and multiverse repos enabled23:02
walkoverI hope i have, or else i will be embaressed ;D ill check..23:02
walkovergot both!23:03
zibrah3edwalkover: I checked it is in the universe repo try refreshing the repos23:03
corinthHere's an interesting question.23:04
walkoverapt-cache search beryl = nothing23:05
walkoverafter update23:05
zibrah3edwalkover: apt-get install compiz23:05
corinthAnyone recommend some packages that they think are essential to their Kubuntu that don't come installed by default?23:05
walkoverfor kde?23:05
walkoverIs that not for gnome?23:05
zibrah3edwalkover: both can use it23:06
zibrah3edI would install emerald as well23:06
walkoverOk ill try!23:06
walkoverthanks23:06
zibrah3edIt will require an x server restsart23:06
walkoverwhat happened to beryl?23:06
walkoveri used to use beryl with emerald23:07
onyxi am installing gutsy right now with a daul boot, i have three partitions, i set up my linux drive, but it wont let me mount the recovery partition or windows partition...why is this?23:07
zibrah3edwalkover: Beryl and compiz have rejoind23:08
walkoveraah that explains it all23:09
zibrah3edonyx: are they NTFS partitions23:09
Nukedanyone in here fairly well versed in video encoding?23:09
onyxzirrah3ed: thank you for your help23:10
walkoverfingers crossed - restarting X23:11
zibrah3edonyx: ntfs-config is a gui for ntfs3g that is rather easy, in konsole type: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config23:13
zibrah3edonyx: then to start type : sudo ntfs-config23:14
onyxzibrah3ed: thank you23:16
Radi01sudo apt-get uninstall bill gates23:20
zibrah3edI think the anti-competition missiles would launch if you typed that command23:21
Radi01We have anti missles for the anti missles competition....made in china.23:22
zibrah3edWith high amounts of lead?23:22
Radi01And nutritious mercury.23:23
nosrednaekimPERFECT for toothpaste23:23
zibrah3edBotchelism anyone?23:23
nosrednaekimthere is probably a CHuck Norris joke in here somewhere..23:23
zibrah3edNah too easy23:24
Radi01Mcguyver.23:24
Radi01I just purchased another fine product made in china: its a new monitor  brb let me hook it up.23:25
Radi01 ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ23:26
zibrah3edStand on your head until It can make it to your cube23:26
zibrah3edIT23:26
nosrednaekimRadi01: use the compiz freewins plugin23:26
Radi01lol23:26
nosrednaekimand how the heck dod you write that?23:26
Radi01My cube is only 3ft square.23:27
zibrah3edMine is 2 ft cubed23:27
zibrah3edhave to lay down23:27
Nukednosrednaekim, that was pretty weird.. the upside down stuff23:27
draikCan someone please take a look into why I cannot record something on my desktop... http://www.draikunderlord.com/uplink.ogg23:31
zibrah3eddraik: did you get the progear reader working23:33
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draikzibrah3ed: Nope. Everything on it died shortly thereafter.23:34
sMonkI'm still having problems with GRUB, I keep getting Error 2, I'd like to avoid formatting and re-installing if I could.23:35
sMonkCan anyone give me some suggestions23:35
draiksMonk: Have you tried SGD; Super Grub Disk23:35
sMonkno23:35
sMonkat this point I'll try flinging poo at my monitor if it will be promising23:35
sMonkRight now I'm on a 7.4 Live CD23:36
draiksMonk: If you're booting any version of Win, then yes, flinging poo at your monitor will have the same results23:36
draiksMonk: Try 7.1023:36
sMonkLOL no, I'm not dual booting, (although I have a vista setup on here that grub erased the bootmgr for and I could never get running)23:37
draikWin first, then Linux. That's how win won't mess with your GRUB23:37
draik!grub | sMonk23:37
ubotusMonk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto23:37
sMonkI was/am running 7.10.. but the only CD I could find is 7.4... I must have lost my 7.10 cd23:37
cirioThere is someone who speaks Italian?23:38
draik!it | cirio23:38
ubotucirio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!23:38
ciriook thanks23:38
sMonkI never tried to setup windows.. Kubuntu locked up on my wife, then it froze, so she hit the reset switch now grub goes to "Error 2"23:38
nosrednaekimsMonk: did you google what Error 2 is?23:39
sMonkyeah.. something about lost files or something to that nature23:40
draiknosrednaekim: Hey there. How are you? Beat me to it.23:40
draiksMonk: Did you google Error 2 for a resolution?23:40
sMonkthere really isn't a whole lot on it.. I crawled the Kubuntu/Ubuntu forums.. but couldn't find a whole lot. Normally people just give the response "re-install" as they do with almost everything :)23:41
sMonkand a lot of the info I have found (about checking your boot settings etc) are all as if you are RUNNING your system, not booting off a live CD23:42
sMonkso I don't have a /boot/grub/*23:42
draikHas anyone taken a look at my video link for the issue? I am trying to record Uplink and that is what I get.23:43
draiksMonk: If you have Kubuntu, I bet you do23:43
draikLook for /boot/grub/menu.lst23:43
sMonksorry.. I don't have /boot/grub folder23:44
sMonkI have a /boot folder.. but no grub23:44
draiksMonk: Did you "sudo rm -f /boot/"?23:45
sMonkno23:45
draikNothing similar to it either, right?23:45
sMonkno, I don't delete system files23:45
draikOpen Konsole23:46
sMonkdone23:46
draik"cd /23:46
draiksorry..23:46
draik"cd /boot/"23:46
sMonkyup23:46
draikls23:47
draik"ls"23:47
sMonkyup23:47
draikWhat do you have?23:47
sMonkabi-2.6.20-8-generic             memtest86+.bin23:47
sMonkconfig-2.6.20-8-generic          System.map-2.6.20-8-generic23:47
sMonkinitrd.img-2.6.20-8-generic.bak  vmlinuz-2.6.20-8-generic23:47
draiksMonk: You can also /msg me23:48
PupenoAnyone using Mono's installer on latest Kubuntu?23:53
Nurburgringhi all, first time with kubuntu distro and i love it23:59

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