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Kanohi, 2.6.24 seems to use pv_cpu_ops as gpl only, that breaks fglrx03:46
Kanoi guess paravirt03:48
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Kanoalso i need a fix for aufs05:12
Kanobest add it to lum05:12
Kanosed -i 's/CONFIG_PARAVIRT=y/# CONFIG_PARAVIRT is not set/;s/CONFIG_PARAVIRT_GUEST=y/# CONFIG_PARAVIRT_GUEST is not set/' debian/config/i386/config debian/config/amd64/config05:15
Kanothats needed when paravirt is not changed05:15
krautmoin07:41
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Kanohi, hardy lum is still on -0, but it should be -113:52
Kanohow about disabling paravirt(guest) to let 3d drivers compile?13:53
rtgKano: bug pkl. He's working on it right now.13:53
Kanopkl?13:54
rtgPhilip Lougher13:54
Kanonickname13:54
rtghmm, I guess he's not on this channel. hold on...13:55
amitkKano: is this a typical fglrx problem?14:00
Kanoa typical GPL only problem14:00
Kanosome functions are exported gpl only14:00
Kanowhen paravirt is enabled14:01
amitkparavirt is important for Ubuntu14:01
amitkcould you list the specific functions that are gpl only?14:02
Kanothen tell linus to remove gpl only ;)14:02
amitksend an email to kernel-team@lists.canonical.com with you proposal so that everybody can track the problem14:03
KanoFATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only symbol 'pv_cpu_ops'14:03
Kanoi am sure you can compile your own kernel...14:03
Kanoyou dont need a ati card to compile the module14:04
amitkand why does fglrx use operations from paravirts?14:04
Kanobecause it is enabled14:04
Kanoa similar problem was with 2.6.2114:05
amitkKano: to me this looks like a problem with fglrx, not Ubuntu. IMHO, you should be talking to ATI.14:05
Kanohttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10265214:05
Kanonot only fglrx, also nvidia14:05
Kanoall non gpl drivers14:05
amitkhave you tried filing bugs with these drivers?14:06
KanoThis problem can not be worked around in the NVIDIA Linux graphics driver.14:06
Kanocan you read this14:06
amitkIt says in that link that Nvidia will fix their driver in future releases14:08
amitkjust ask ATI to do the same14:08
Kanohttp://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg229455.html14:08
Kanomaybe it is already fixed,but not in your git tree14:08
amitkKano: rtg is syncing to the latest 2.6.24 tree 2-3 times a week. So we shouldn't be far behind.14:12
Kanothen he should try to compile one of those modules14:13
amitkKano: We will get to it when we compile LRM. Be patient.14:14
Kanoi dont use that package14:14
Kanoi am sure you can get to it faster14:14
amitkBut we do. And as much as you would like, we don't work to your schedules. Sorry.14:15
Kanofor me lrm is the biggest crap ever introduced14:15
Kanokernel+lum are ok, but not lrm14:16
maks_Kano: you are on a old base14:16
maks_that paravirt problem got resolved since some time irc14:16
Kanomaks_: old base?14:16
Kanoi compiled it this night14:17
maks_linux-2.6 ?14:17
maks_irc that was a trouble of 2.6.22 or 2.6.2114:17
Kanothats a new 2.6.24 regression!14:17
maks_cool14:18
maks_good news then Kano :)14:18
amitkKano: if it is fixed in 2.6.24, we will pick it up. If it isn't  then ATI will eventually fix their stuff just as Nvidia is. But disabling partvirt is NOT an option.14:20
Kanoamitk: until you want to use gpl drivers you can not enable it14:20
amitkThen we will solve it when we get to that problem14:21
amitk*shrug*14:22
Kanoyou are really funny14:25
Kanoyou dont own ati or nv gfx cards=14:25
maks_radeonhd works pretty fine on ati14:31
maks_well nouveau is kind of stalled..14:31
maks_so don't buy nv14:31
Kanoyou have ideas, unbeleaveable14:31
Kanoradeonhd has no xv support14:32
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Kanowhen will be aufs available? there is no aufs or unionfs in lum15:22
Kanoi would prefer aufs...15:22
circuthey all, anyone in?17:20
circutwell i was just curios if the time information that the ubuntu kernel prints is a  special  kernel patch17:29
circutor if its already in the kernel source, just needs to be turned out17:30
circutthere was something about printing timing info in the kernel hacking secrtion17:30
circutbut its more like time elapsed, not current time17:30
circuthrm17:55
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