=== Wckt2 is now known as WcktKlwn === WcktKlwn is now known as Wckt === Wckt is now known as WcktKlwn === Tracy_Home_ is now known as Tracy_Home [01:12] is it possible to get the mythbrowser to run flash? I can think of lots of Google videos it would be cool to watch full-screen... === Tracy_Home_ is now known as Tracy_Home [01:35] anyone have experience with the hauppage wintv pvr 150 mce? [01:35] Cygnet, what about it? [01:35] mythbuntu isn't seeing it and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong or if there's something really dumb and obvious I missed or what [01:35] Cygnet, fresh install? [01:36] it should be recognized out of the box [01:36] xubuntu with mythbuntu installed on top [01:36] the box isn't doing anything else except running an irc bot [01:38] hmm [01:39] what happened when you tried to add it via mythtv-setup [01:39] Cygnet, have you checked dmesg? [01:39] if not please post it in pastebin [01:39] I get the screen where you choose the card type [01:39] foxbuntu, I'll do that now [01:41] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2369 [01:42] I tried the MPEG-2 encoder (PVR x50) type because that seemed like the most likely one but it said it couldn't open the card [01:43] Cygnet, do this [01:44] dmesg | grep ivtv [01:44] and pastebin that [01:44] ok [01:44] got nothing [01:44] then your card either isnt install, or more likley not working [01:45] was the card installed when you setup the xbuntu box from the start? [01:45] no [01:45] I just put it in today [01:45] lspci [01:46] Cygnet, yes..do an lspci and post it [01:46] and I was trying to use a different TV tuner thing (a USB box) but that didn't work so I got the wintv card [01:47] Cygnet, I run two of those exact cards..they work pretty well [01:47] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2370 [01:48] i don't see it listed [01:49] the computer had 2 free pci slots but the first one there was no screw for the cover and it didn't seem to actually come off at all, so I put it in the second one [01:50] Cygnet, that should be fine unless there is something wrong with your machine [01:51] it's one of those linspire boxes that they used to sell at fry's === Varka_ is now known as Varka [02:02] I'm going to open the computer again and take another look, I may be back later [02:06] hey [02:06] i'm trying to get mythvideo working [02:07] on playback...I don't get any audio until I hit the left arrow [02:07] any ideas? [02:09] I have used mplayer and xine as the default player [02:25] can someone please help me with removing a grant statement i did in mysql that messed me up.. i did: "GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@"192.168.1.%" IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; I believe I am looking for a revoke command but dont want to do anything other than undo this command [02:28] any guides on creating a diskless frontend w/ mythbuntu? [02:56] mindframe_: you looking to do a pxe boot or something? [02:56] yes [02:56] mindframe_: i'd look at a pxeboot distribution and add in the mythtv parts to it [02:56] can i ask your opinion on something? [02:57] sure [02:58] the box i'm using as a frontend is quite powerful... AMD 6000+ / 2GB memory. should i even worry about making it diskless? [02:58] i can put all my tuners in it [02:59] i personally only have a BE/FE system with dual SD tuners, it is not nearly as powerful as yours [02:59] and it is plenty powerful/has plenty of storage [02:59] i plan on doing a good bit of hd with it [03:00] i was thinking of putting the tuners in my desktop system which has a lot of storage [03:00] in the future I will add in various frontends, but they will not be as beefy as yours [03:00] i guess i can just tell the be/fe to use an nfs share [03:00] i'm just not sure what you would use all that processing power for in a frontend system [03:01] in a BE, it could be put to work doing transcoding and multiple HD streams [03:02] but admittedly I dont have as much experience in building BE, FE, BE/FE systems as some of the others in here === samson-- is now known as LairSpirit === LairSpirit is now known as samson-- [03:03] im gonna go for a be/fe system first. i dont even have my tuners yet but i'd like to play back some HD content and mess around with mytharchive [03:03] ive been using xbmc until now [03:04] ahh [03:04] that been working pretty well? [03:04] yeah it's excellent... just underpowered [03:05] cant play h264 or anything [03:05] the linux xbmc project will be interesting once it comes to fruition [03:06] im gonna move the xbmc to the bedroom now [03:06] do you know of any issues with the amd64 build of mythbuntu? [04:19] im having some trouble getting xbmxmythtv to connect to my backend database keep getting the error "Failed to connect to mysql db Conn". I can connect from my other frontends just fine, just not the xbox. Is it not compatible with mythbuntu 7.10 yet? [04:28] just noticed a typo.. thats xbmc mythtv [04:43] S10LoLo, well I would check to see what protocol that it is trying to work with [04:44] mythbuntu uses mythtv 20.2 unless your running trunk [04:52] xbmcmythtv was defaulting to 30, i hadnt read anything about having to change that [04:54] although it tells me 20.2 - invalid integer supplied [04:59] mindframe_, ping [05:06] how can i check what protocol my mythtv backend is running? [05:29] this protocol thing has me confused here... i am running mythbuntu 7.10 and using xbmcmythtv-0.20.34b on my xbox... which protocol should I set to use in xbmcmythtv? [05:55] xbmcmythtv log if anyone is interested in checking it out.. [05:55] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2373/ [06:20] does anyone know where trhe mythtv logo source files are available? [06:20] oh the wiki from mythtv.org [06:42] how can i fix my resolution? [06:42] i've got a 1080i 16:9 TV and the edges of the screen are cut off [07:40] http://www.woot.com/ [07:40] I wonder what the odds are of using that as a frontend [08:29] rhpot1991, nil [08:50] ya, I searched around for a bit, not good at all [10:34] yo yo yo [10:43] Hi there.. How difficult is it to get a almos Mythbuntu installation on a Mac Mini? (PPC) because it has not more than 20W power consumption and the perfect HTPC becaus of that.. Havent the money for a x00 Watt HTPC.. Germanys power prices are expensive! :) [10:50] I duno if u can get mythbuntu for PPC [10:50] but you can get ubuntu for it [10:50] and apt-get the mythtv bits [10:51] Do you want a front end or backend and what TV receiver will you use? [10:51] Or you could just get a small x86 mini/micro ATX motherboard with a minimal processor and use that, it'd be smiliarly low on power. [10:51] or a laptop [11:48] frink_: I want to use something like the standard requirements.. and the Mac Mini has those.. [11:49] frink_: What does Mythbuntu other than Ubuntu + MythTV packages? [11:49] frink_: I want frontend and backend on it, and I will use a USB DVB-S device [11:50] mpathy, you can install mythbuntu-desktop to get the other items [11:50] they (should) all work on all arch's [11:51] but they have only been tested on i386 and amd64 [11:52] superm1: the metapackage works also on PPC? that would be great [11:52] mpathy, i believe that i added a ppc arch when building it back on gutsy, but i never had hardware to build the live disk or test it [11:53] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mythbuntu-desktop&searchon=names&subword=1&version=gutsy&release=all [11:53] yeah it should work for you [11:53] get me a ppc this cycle and i'll see about mastering and testing a ppc mythbuntu disk :) [11:57] superm1: great, I try it. should I then start from a server install? [11:57] mpathy, that's up to you [11:58] i'd probably say command line system install [11:58] rather than server install [11:58] yes I meant that. ubuntus description of it is very unclear.. I didnt mean ubuntu-server but ubuntu -> server install from the boot menu [12:00] mpathy, hopefully all works well, if so we might be getting you to do some future ppc testing if you would be up for it [12:01] superm1: Sure, you can note me for that.. [13:16] Hey superm1 ? [13:16] hey frink_ [13:26] Hey Daviey ! [13:26] Is the box OK? [13:27] seems it! [13:27] thanks [13:28] Good! [13:29] I have not actually installed the latest 7.10 yet :( Been too busy with college stuff. [13:29] bah, don't worry about that! [13:29] my wife wants features/stability :) [13:30] I installed a 6.06 server the other day [13:30] I eman the 7.10 mythbuntu :) [13:30] awww [13:30] i see. [13:31] Well tbh, i only started running mythbuntu when my backend blew up [13:31] seemed little point migrating from a working ubuntu system.. but the *bang* gave me the excuse [13:31] it blew up? What happened? :( [13:32] psu fan died, got hot - smoked - blew PSU fuse.. [13:32] my 7.10 upgrade went... badly [13:32] how so? [13:33] system froze midway, journal wasn't as transactional as journals are meant to be [13:33] oh [13:33] Well we had an ext3 filesystem die last week. [13:33] some things got corrupted. config files, libc, stuff like that [13:33] I thought it was the disk array, but it all seems fine. [13:40] i've had my myth old_recorded (sp?) table marked as corrupted twice in 2 weeks [13:40] Might have been due to lack of space tho.. === Varka_ is now known as Varka [16:02] anyone have a recommendation for finding a proper modeline for a LG 32FS4D ? I have no idea on technical specifications for this TV and can't find anything anywhere about it. The edges of my screen are cut off. [16:24] mindframe-, lcd? [16:25] I dont really need the tv-capture capabilities at this time (although i may want it later), but what I really want is something that an idiot (such as the people i live with) will be able to browse through my movies/tv stuff and play [16:25] sort of like the dlink media center which i hav enow [16:25] is mythtv the right thing to be looking into for this? [16:25] padan, mythtv would work for that [16:25] you'll still have to setup the backend portion though [16:26] so the fact that i dont care about tv capture is ok? I can just ignore this part during the setup? [16:26] I would just put backend/frontend on the same box [16:26] and nfs mount the media archive [16:26] since you may want it later i'd go with mythtv. Then when you get to the part for capture card and such, you won't need to enter anything [16:27] although the watch tv thing will still show up IIRC [16:27] thats fine... i'll condition the users with a cattle prod [16:28] sounds good [16:33] tgm4883, widescreen HD CRT [16:37] mindframe-, did you check the tv setting for an adjustment there? [16:39] in mcc? [16:39] no on your TV [16:39] mine was the same [16:39] kinda like on an old CRT monitor [16:39] like messing with the aspect? [16:40] no, like horizontal and vertical adjustment [16:40] oh, no [16:40] i don't think it has that [16:40] i looked for settings in it last night and i've been through em 50 times before [16:40] sucks [16:40] k [16:40] i didn't think that my Flat panel LCD had them either [16:41] i'll look around a little bit for some settings on your tv, but it will probably be awhile as I got to go to class [16:41] i might try and contact LG for specifications.. don't think i'll have much luck [16:41] thanks! [16:41] i scoured google last night [16:42] this 32FS4D which was really an AU model was sold as a 30FS4D [16:42] i think it's the same thing [17:16] hi all [17:17] i'm new to mythtv and i'm searching for a few answers [17:18] first of all: mythbuntu is running on a p4 2.4 ghz cpu with 512mb ram. but switching from one to another menupoint lasts about 2 seconds [17:18] why is it so slow? [17:19] 2. i got a Haupauge nova-t pci card. it was running fine on my desktop pc, now i put it into this new mythtvbox and nothing is working. mythtv is telling me, that the card doesnt respont [17:20] someone can help me with this points? [17:21] what country are you in? [17:21] i'm from germany [17:21] ok [17:21] is my english that bad? :/ [17:22] well, thereis no reason I can think of for waiting 2 seconds between menu points [17:22] or for your card not working :) [17:22] Youe english is great! [17:23] hmmm this 2 second thing is pretty annoying [17:25] the_alien, what happens when you browse the web with that same pc? any delays? [17:25] mom, will try [17:26] hmmmm, the gui seems to be pretty fast [17:26] the normal xfce gui [17:26] not the mythtv one [17:27] can you ssh into it and watch top while you browse through the mythtv gui? [17:29] i think i have to throw this goddamn network cable out of the window... [17:44] the resolution was too high i think [17:45] with 1024 its much faster [17:52] i dont get it. i think i am too stupid for mythtv :( [17:57] after 4 hours, i'm pretty much frustrated.thx anyway [18:48] Can anyone help with a samba share and mythmusic ? [19:11] way to go and wait a whopping 2 minutes [19:12] mindframe-, can you send me your tv type again [19:12] mindframe_, ^^ [19:12] the model that is [19:30] tgm4883, 32FS4D-UC or 30FS4D [19:30] tgm4883_laptop, ^^ [19:31] i called LG and they said they'd call me back if they found the information [19:33] i dont know how i got an aussie model [19:33] thats bloody ridiculas [19:33] :) [19:33] a mate [19:38] hah yes [20:27] i just installed mythbuntu and the very first thing I am wondering is if there is a way to speed up the menus? there is a lag time going between no only screens, but just menu items... it can't be the box.. its a dual core amd with 2gb of mem and a nv 8500 [20:29] padan, did you install your restricted drivers? [20:30] no... do the proprietary nv drivers work better than the open source ones? [20:30] i figured the open source ones should work well since nv is fairly good about playing nice with linux kernel developers [20:31] padan: Have you changed the painter to be openGL? [20:31] Qt is generally faster [20:31] ^ Qt default. [20:31] i jus tchanged the painter to opengl... qt was defaulted [20:31] i haven't rebooted yet so i haven't seen the opengl change [20:31] i will try the restricted nv drivers [20:31] and see if that makes a difference [20:34] ok way better! [20:35] thanks again tgm [20:35] now next question is what is the best way, for mythtv, for me to nfs mount my media archive? [20:35] is there a menu option in mythtv or should i just do this on the OS level? [20:37] currently you should do it on the OS level, in the future there should be a gui for that (for music, pictures, and movies) [20:38] k [20:39] padan: I'd avoid NFS mounting your storage on your backend if i were you [20:39] I did it for a while.. sure it works - but IMO it isn't ideal [20:40] what's wrong with that? [20:40] unless ofcourse you have a decent switch etc [20:40] i bought a gigabit switch for it :) [20:40] dell 8 port [20:40] Ah.. i did it with an el cheapo 10/100 [20:43] why? [20:43] i have like 6 tb of storage in my storage server [20:43] I did it over wifi.......ok, no i didn't [20:43] heh [20:43] and gigabit all over [20:44] with tcp offloadable nics [20:44] and jumbo frames [20:44] :P [20:44] i used a telephone cable and a 14.4 modem [20:44] elite. [20:44] word has it that superm1 uses 2 tin cans and some string [20:45] why does mythtv need write permission to the media directories? [20:45] like what is it going to do? [20:46] afaik, it shouldn't [20:46] just the recording dir [20:46] tgm4883_laptop: no, superm1 memorises a file of hex then retypes it on his storage box [20:46] ok... because it explicity says that it needs write when I am adding the directory [20:47] Daviey, i thought it was binary? [20:47] i jus twant to make sure its not going to reorganize everything since there are multiple devices accessing the data [20:54] wait how'd you guys find out my methods? [20:54] i thought my tin can thing was secret.. [20:56] someone must have wiretaped you... [20:56] how? there is only one string in my can! [20:57] the wire going between can be tapped at any point [20:57] superm1: Hi there, finally. [20:57] hi [20:58] Do you read you mail from ubuntu.com? [20:58] yeah, but i'm a little bit behind since i've been busy this week [20:58] i saw one come in from you but i won't get to it until tomorrow [20:58] plus i send him 163 emails a day [21:00] superm1: No worries. In short, I've added ATSC to Me TV. I'll talk to you when you're not so busy sometime. Thanks for your help with everything. [21:00] ah very cool [21:01] yeah i'll get it onto my comp with and atsc card as soon as time frees up :) [21:01] Ta [21:01] michaellamothe, although now you can make tgm4883 test it too [21:02] yep [21:02] when i go home [21:02] but only after he finishes mythstream [21:02] :) [21:02] stupid get-orig-source [21:02] mythstream is overrated [21:02] wait, i take that back [21:03] get-orig-source is overrated [21:04] https://launchpad.net/me-tv/+download ... it's not on REVU yet. I don't even know if it works. [21:04] Thanks for that. [21:20] any of the mirror admins around? [21:22] mckim, whats up? [21:22] besides our rsync issue [21:23] that's what I was going to ask about. :-) [21:23] our rsync server had some hard drives crash [21:23] Daviey, ping [21:23] frink_, ping [21:23] tgm4883_laptop: [21:23] Daviey, whats the status on frinks_ server and such? [21:24] is it back up yet? [21:24] tgm4883_laptop: site src is there.. not loaded into mysql yet [21:24] k [21:24] bendailey, ping [21:24] rsync not set up [21:24] k [21:25] do we have the iso's on there? what would happen if we didn't? I wouldn't want all our mirrors to delete the iso's if they are unavailable [21:25] I don't even know the fs structure for the iso's+rsync [21:25] I think bendailey set that all up [21:25] the iso's aren't there yet, no [21:26] k [21:26] probably best if he does it again then [21:26] i'd like to setup just the new iso's then [21:26] agreed [21:26] cause the old ones were supposed to be deleted awhile ago [21:27] and I think im at or over my limit currently at osuosl. [21:27] tgm4883_laptop: are we talking about rsyncing isos? [21:27] yep [21:27] bendailey, you set that up for us right? [21:27] yes I think so [21:27] k [21:27] so were going to need it setup again [21:28] and i think it can be started anytime. Right Daviey [21:28] I wrote a push script for superm1 for sure is that still around? [21:28] maybe, not sure. I know some mirrors only update via rsync though [21:28] we only do an rsync pull [21:29] yeah I think most do rsync pulls but my mirrors are only available via ftp push [21:30] ok, well were not releasing any iso's for a few weeks, so is it possible to set this up next week bendailey? [21:30] bendailey: I've been doing your FTP pushes IIRC [21:30] and only setup the current release iso [21:30] thanks Daviey do you still have the script? [21:31] i hope so :) [21:31] did I here that we lost the download stats? [21:31] a months worth [21:31] like i said, osuosl was nice enough to host our iso, i don't want to abuse the service, and was told under 2GB [21:31] ok I started using bzr and love it [21:31] :) [21:32] bendailey: if you set up the rsync server, can you again? [21:32] would now be a good time to update & start bzr branch of the download script [21:32] erm [21:32] yeah I can set it up again any backups of /etc/rsyncd.conf by chance? [21:32] nope [21:33] i can check [21:33] sorry mckim, i guess i probably should have stopped by osuosl and let you guys know what was going on [21:33] bendailey: nope not there [21:34] ok can you pm the login info for the server? do you still have the ssh pub keys? [21:34] your ssh pub key? [21:35] yeah [21:35] nope [21:35] I think I gave it to superm1 when I did the original rsync setup [21:35] tgm4883_laptop: Well, I'm not so worried about my failure notices now. :-) [21:35] if you pm me that, i could sort that? [21:37] so you want me to pm you my ssh pub key? Are you ready for rsync setup? [21:39] mckim, ok, so Daviey is bringing the website back up on that box, and bendailey will bring the rsync back up. Once both are setup, we should be able to swing dns back to frink_'s box (which is where everything was originally stored). I don't recall offhand which address the rsync is setup for, so you may have to wait for the dns [21:39] Daviey, bendailey does ^^ sound about right? [21:39] sounds good [21:40] ok then. class ended early, so im heading home. If anyone needs me ping tgm4883 and I should be back in about 30 minutes [21:43] tgm4883_laptop: sounds great. [21:46] rsync will be working by the end of the weekend [21:48] bye [21:50] hmm.. possibly the best mATX mb out there for myth? http://www.inno3d.com/products/motherboard/Sl73um_hdmi.html [21:50] VGA + DVI + HDMI and nVidia [21:53] Daviey, IF, and only if, it does digital audio via hdmi [21:53] directhex: well linux + hdmi audio is crappy atm [21:53] Daviey, well, it shouldn't (in theory) be any worse than linux with spdif [21:54] directhex: take a gander at launchpad [21:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/148097 [21:54] oh, i believe it can suck, it just shouldn't ;) [21:54] alsa's terrible at moving with the times [21:54] it took 3 releases before my office pc had sound [21:54] :( [21:54] and know what? it was a 3-line fix [21:55] 1-line if you do it in a more lazy fashion [21:55] hehe [21:56] I did manage to get some HDMI audio working... but it was the early hours and i don't know even what kernel is was [22:11] hey [22:12] i'm trying to get mythvideo working [22:12] on playback...I don't get any audio until I hit the left arrow [22:12] any ideas [22:12] I have used mplayer and xine as the default player [22:38] is this the 'official' channel for mythbuntu support? [22:39] Triskaidekaphobi, yes [22:42] thank you tgm4883, then on to my quandary: after a power outage (due to heavy snowstorm weather in the northern tundra) i cannot access any of my previously recorded shows, the schedule of shows to be recorded, or even schedule a show to record (via guide or manual). would love some suggestions as i'm about ready to start over from scrap [22:42] tgm4883: don't go too far, please, my daughter is calling me urgently.... brb.... [22:42] Triskaidekaphobi, use MCC to optimize your database, then enter mythtv-setup/exit mythtv-setup so it runs mythfilldatabase [22:43] I had that same problem before [22:43] hey guys [22:45] hey williammanda [22:48] i installed mythdvd & mythvideo..... [22:48] how can I get all the computers to see what each has ripped? [22:49] well you would have to share each dir with the others [22:49] because mythvideo and mythdvd do not get transfered via the mythtv protocol [22:49] i have nfs setup on each computer and share the home dir [22:50] tgm4883_laptop: thanks, will try that now... [22:50] the easiest way to do it IMO, is to share with NFS, then mount each shared computers drive inside a folder (ie, /var/lib/mythtv/videos/comp1, /var/lib/mythtv/videos/comp2, etc) [22:51] then point the frontend to /var/lib/mythtv/videos [22:51] and it should search recursively [22:51] does that make sense? [22:52] yes it does but where do I enter the info for the frontend? [22:54] ok, you will have to mount those on each frontend. Then in the frontend, go to settings > media settings (i think thats what it's called) and set the dir to whereever you mounted it to. I believe the default is /var/lib/mythtv/videos, so if you mount the nfs shares inside of that, then it should work after you mount the shares [22:57] settings > media settings > general settings > directory that holds videos ? [22:58] Utilities/setup > setup > media settings > video settings > general settings > dir that holds videos [23:00] doesn't that field tell myth where to store the ripped videos? [23:01] does anyone know how to move the watch video's to the front below the watch tv option? [23:01] no, that would be under DVD settings > rip settings [23:02] sec [23:03] if you notice, when your at the area that you can change that "Dir that holds videos", you will notice at the bottom that it says it only needs read permission [23:06] hey tgm4883_laptop, if you share the mythtv/video's do I have to enter imdb info on the remote frontend's? [23:07] or does it pull down from the backend [23:07] hmm, thats a good question, let me check [23:12] WcktKlwn, looks like you only need to pull the data once [23:13] cool, thanks [23:49] tgm4883 your suggestion sounds very much like what I already have.... [23:50] I have nfs....example...computer name/home/dvd.... [23:51] I store each video in the "DVD" sud dir [23:51] on each computer [23:52] when I pull up "Watch Videos" it gives me all the videos from all computers [23:52] but I can only view the resident videos on each computer [23:53] ok, lets break this down so I am understanding your right [23:53] on frontend1 [23:53] you can see all the videos that are stored on frontend2, frontend3, etc, but can't play them? [23:53] you can only play videos on frontend1 that are stored on frontend1? [23:54] yes [23:54] I will give you my setup... [23:54] ok, and on encoder2, you have mounted the nfs share from encoder 1? [23:55] computers: C2D & PIV3G [23:56] both computers have videos ripped before myth and after... [23:57] I used RIP|DVD before and myth to record dvds [23:58] on both computers I can see the videos through "watch videos" in myth [23:58] tgm4883_laptop: looks good, thanks [23:58] np [23:58] the icon shows them as a file... [23:58] i select the file... [23:59] I get a tmp and vob file [23:59] i select the vob file [23:59] then I select the vob