[00:00] <Phantom_> I'll return when I'm in windows.  I want to ask more questions while I clear some files out.
[00:00] <tacone> the_giver:  I have a dell xps
[00:00]  * Pelo changes his nick to hide from phantom 
[00:01] <macele> What is the advantage to building your drivers from source rather than just using the restricted drivers system already implemented in ubuntu?
[00:01] <macele> Vid drivers that is...
[00:01] <Gskellig> not all drivers are in the restricted drivers system?
[00:02] <Evanlec> macele, mostly you do that if you need to use a custom kernel
[00:02] <Pelo> macele,  no actual advantage, not every card is supported by the restricted driver
[00:02] <the_giver> tacone, well i wanted to know if the anti-glare made whites look sort of "dusty"
[00:02] <unperson> I've been watching Heroes on the NBC website via their flashplayer.  Tonight I went to watch the latest episode and now none of the on-screen controls work.  Has anyone else experienced a similar change recently (on NBC's site or elsewhere)?
[00:02] <Gskellig> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop. <--- any ideas?
[00:02] <Pelo> unperson, it happens on some site
[00:02] <unperson> I should say I'm using firefox and adobe's flash player, both from the repositories.
[00:02] <macele> IC, thx
[00:02] <unperson> Pelo, What puzzles me is that it worked just fine like last week.
[00:03] <Pelo> unperson, I recommend getting the eps in torrent and downlaoding it , much easier
[00:03] <macele> just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on a few frames by not building from source
[00:03] <Evanlec> macele, i havent heard anything to suggest that compiling your video drivers would improve performance over restricted drivers
[00:03] <unperson> Pelo, Sure.  But I was content watching it on the site when it worked.
[00:03] <macele> cool
[00:04] <Pelo> unperson, just a suggestion
[00:04] <unperson> Pelo, Having no ability to pause, skip ahead, etc., sucks.
[00:04] <Bonste1> !emulator
[00:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:04] <Evanlec> macele, however, there are performance improvements to be had (for games esp) by using a realtime kernel
[00:04] <unperson> Pelo, Understood and appreciated.
[00:04] <Pelo> unperson, I only skip ahead when I watch lost, the eps tend to drag on
[00:04] <Evanlec> macele, which is what i did, compiled custom kernel, then had to use the nvidia.com drivers
[00:04] <Bonste1> hey anyone got PCSX emulator to work?
[00:05] <macele> Evanlec, I dont know what a realtime kernel is. Can you expand on that a bit?
[00:05] <^Phantom^> :D
[00:05] <unperson> Pelo, Well, in this case I couldn't pause, so I closed the window, thinking I'd be able to start up where I left off.
[00:05]  * ^Phantom^ in windows now
[00:05] <Pelo> phantom if you want my help in anyway you'll remvoe non alpha caracters from your nick
[00:05] <macele> Is that just compiling a custom kernel?
[00:05] <Evanlec> macele, the realtime kernel is basically just the linux kernel with more aggressive timing, its scheduler or clock can be set to run faster
[00:05] <^Phantom^> Alright.
[00:05] <unperson> Pelo, As it turns out I seem to only be able to watch it all the way through without stopping.
[00:05] <Pelo> unperson, flash doesn't work like that unfortunately
[00:06] <Phantom_> oh, this name is owned, lemme choose one that isn't
[00:06] <Evanlec> macele, a good example is when i installed the ET:QW demo, it mentioned in its readme that a realtime kernel with 1000hz clock setting was recommended
[00:06] <Twilight> brb
[00:06] <unperson> Pelo, Their site had in player controls that would let you...until this week.
[00:06] <macele> Evanlec, cool... I had no idea. Are there plenty of links to be found by google-ing "realtime kernel"?
[00:06] <Pelo> unperson, downloading it will let you watch it at leasure and it's probably the same amout of data
[00:06] <Evanlec> macele, oh ya tons, and if u dont wanna compile your own there is also ubuntu's linux-kernel-rt package in the repo
[00:07] <unperson> Pelo, Yes, I agree.  No argument that the torrent would be technically superior in every way.
[00:07] <Phantombun> Alright, characters removed
[00:07] <Pelo> unperson, donT' panick about that , it might e caused by a number of things, the way the coded this particualr ep, a small change in the flash they used,  whatever, might be ok next week
[00:07] <Evanlec> macele, dont get to choose your options with that package but you get a realtime kernel without having to recompile (which takes a little learning)
[00:07] <Pelo> Phantombun, much better
[00:07] <Phantombun> :)
[00:07] <Xeon06> Hey guys, Im new to ubuntu and I have a few questions:
[00:07] <Xeon06> 1)How can I make Pilgin start automatically when I log in Ubuntu?
[00:07] <Xeon06> 2)I have a shortcut to a windows drive on my "desktop" that I want to remove, however the only option is to unmount it. How may I remove it?
[00:07] <Xeon06> Finally, how can I create the equivalent of a windows "shortcut"?
[00:07] <Xeon06> Thanks
[00:07] <Phantombun> I can't find that file.
[00:07] <peepsalot> argh, for some reason aptitude keeps getting stuck during package installs
[00:07] <Phantombun> And the free space is still the same...
[00:08] <firebird619> Could anyone suggest a program to reduce the size of a PDF file? I created a PDF using OpenOffice to be e-mailed, however the size is to large.
[00:08] <Pelo> Phantombun,  defraging might clesn the space properly
[00:08] <unperson> Pelo, Yeah.  I'll have to check it out next week to see if it's a consistent thing I guess.
[00:08] <Phantombun> Ah, okay.
[00:08] <peepsalot> is there anything I can do about that?
[00:08] <Evanlec> macele, tho if oyu're serious about getting "under the hood" with your linux system, this guide makes recompiling your kernel relatively easy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[00:08] <Phantombun> After I delete these old redundant files, too :D
[00:08] <soundray> Xeon06: ask one question at a time. To start a program on login, add it in System-Preferences-Session-Startup programs
[00:08] <Evanlec> peepsalot, try apt-get?
[00:08] <Phantombun> I will be back momentarily :D
[00:08] <macele> Evanlec, I like to learn. I've been thinking about rolling my own kernel for some time now. I think it's time I learned. Any tips before I plunge into google search madness?
[00:09]  * Pelo read  after I delete these old repugnant files too 
[00:09] <unperson> Pelo, Well, thanks.  Later.
[00:09] <Phantombun> lol
[00:09] <Xeon06> Thanks soundray
[00:09] <Phantombun> I'm gonna gro grab some blank dvds to back up some important data
[00:09] <Vad1> What library do I need to install when I get a 'checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!' error on ./configure?
[00:09]  * Pelo is watching pirates of the cara.....  not paing much attention to the channel 
[00:10] <Evanlec> macele, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[00:10] <soundray> Xeon06: similar, but not the same thing as a shortcut in Windows is a link in Unix. There are symbolic links and hardlinks. man ln for more info
[00:10] <Pelo> Vad1, just   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:10] <Vad1> Pelo: Um are you sure?
[00:10] <Vad1> Pelo: That's for a ./configure
[00:10] <macele> Evanlec, thx man... i'm reading now.
[00:10] <Gskellig> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s'.  Stop. <--- any ideas?
[00:10] <scguy318> Pelo: he wants the X server headers and such
[00:10] <Pelo> Vad1, try it first if anything is missing it will probably ask for it
[00:10] <Evanlec> macele, doing it with ubuntu makes it relatively painless, the part you'll spend most time on is configuring your kernel (choosing what options to use, or what drivers to compile into the kernel)
[00:10] <scguy318> Pelo: not reconfigure the X server
[00:11] <scguy318> Vad1: I think libx11-6?
[00:11] <Rukus> every time that i run x-chat it requires me to reinstall my Fish plugin. This is kind of annoying, because then i need to load, the scipt, then retrive my proper fish key and enter it everytime i run xchat.  any suggestions to make x-chat load my fish script and remember the key?
[00:11] <scguy318> Vad1: you could do apt-cache search x11
[00:11] <scguy318> Vad1: and grep
[00:11] <Bonste1> !epsxe
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epsxe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:11] <Vad1> scguy318: hm, I have that already. I'll try the search
[00:11] <Pelo> Rukus,  what is the fish pluiggin ?
[00:11] <Vad1> scguy318: oh that's a ton of packages.
[00:11] <macele> Evanlec, which is better... to compile into the kernel or to add as module? Is it faster to build it into the kernel?
[00:12] <Xeon06> What would be the default location path of installed applications?
[00:12] <Pelo> Xeon06, /bin /sbin /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[00:12] <Xeon06> Thanks.
[00:12] <Pelo> Xeon06,  you don't need a path just typing hte name of the app will do
[00:12] <Evanlec> macele, well, back in the day (5 years ago) it was beneficial to compile into the kernel (the resulting kernel after compiling will be smaller)...but these days with systems having lots of ram and cpu power, u can use modules without any real performance impact
[00:13] <soundray> Xeon06: there is no such thing. Different files go to different locations, depending on their contents. To see the list of files belonging to a package, type 'dpkg -L packagename'
[00:13] <peepsalot> ah man, gcvs is kinda ugly lookin using this old gtk.  is there some better alternative?
[00:13] <Pelo> Xeon06, might also be a /usr/share/bin but not sure
[00:13] <kex> hello, can anybody help me with my screen resolution problem? i am running ubuntu 7.10
[00:13] <soundray> !fixres | kex
[00:13] <ubotu> kex: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:13] <Evanlec> macele, i went ahead and compiled in some specific drivers for my hardware tho, just because sometimes modules can be tricky, and in one case i needed a driver compiled in (snd-hda-intel) to work properly
[00:13] <kex> soundray, thx
[00:14] <nick__> argh
[00:14] <Xeon06> I found it in usr/bin, thx.
[00:14] <nick__> does ubuntu come with a command line configuration tool
[00:14] <nick__> for x.org
[00:14] <nick__> or what
[00:14] <scguy318> Vad1: grep the search results
[00:14] <soundray> nick__: yes
[00:14] <scguy318> Vad1: or more it
[00:14] <scguy318> Vad1: theres some other x11 libraries besides the client
[00:14] <_Rukus> Pelo:  its blowfish encryption for x-chat.   FiSH v0.98 - encryption plugin for XChat loaded! URL: http://fish.sekure.us
[00:14] <Pelo> nick__,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:15] <macele> Evanlec, only thing that kinda scares me is the fact that I have software (fake) raid... I sure don't want to hose that. But I suppose I can just use grub to load the old kernel if I get it wrong and try again.
[00:15] <Pelo> _Rukus, remove it from your ~/.xchat folder
[00:15] <Pelo> I guess
[00:16] <nick__> urgh
[00:16] <Evanlec> macele, actually its a good thing to compile a kernel with raid support (and filesystems) built-in, that way u wont have boot problems (RAID root partition cannot be mounted at boot time without kernel support)
[00:16] <JJtech> what to use to capture onscreen video in desktop..?? ( i want to upload eyecandies for youtube)
[00:16] <nick__> does anyone know what the first PCI express slot defaults to
[00:16] <Evanlec> macele, im running a software raid too
[00:16] <nick__> PCI:1:0:0?
[00:17] <Pelo> nick__,  when in doudt , leave the defaults provided
[00:17] <soundray> nick__: don't make a setting at all, or find out the ID with lspci
[00:17] <D4rkB34n> hi there
[00:17] <hacked_kernel> I got Ubuntu Gutsy and I heard that I have to recompile the kernel for P4, is it right?
[00:18] <D4rkB34n> any one can help?
[00:18] <Pelo> hi where ?
[00:18] <Agent> Pelo:thankx 4info but for a noobie is going 2 take time 2 learn what the hak is saying
[00:18] <Xeon06> This might sound dumb but every once in a while my speaker plays a little song with 3 ascending notes, then 3 quickly descending notes, is that a notification or something?
[00:18] <Pelo> D4rkB34n, we need questions
[00:18] <_Rukus> remove what?
[00:18] <_Rukus> i dont get what you man
[00:18] <_Rukus> mean
[00:18] <swmiller> !bash
[00:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[00:18] <Pelo> !1337 | Agent
[00:18] <ubotu> Agent: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[00:18] <D4rkB34n> Pelo: i printed to the default pdf printer from OOO Impress, where is my printed pdf file?
[00:19] <K_Dallas> Good evening folks! I am told but people from the ubuntu-marketing that there are no offical data and graph available for public but I was wondering if any of you guys has actually done some partial analysis about Ubuntu success compared to other distros and how it has positioned itself in the market since 2004? I would appreciate any help, link, etc thanks
[00:19] <Atlantiz> Hacked, I have pentium 4 i ran the regular gutsy
[00:19] <ari_stress> morning
[00:19] <Pelo> D4rkB34n, I would guess in /home/user
[00:19] <Gskellig> linux? market?
[00:19] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, no recompiling is necessary
[00:19] <Gskellig> people pay for linux distros huh?
[00:19] <Phantombun> Pelo, if it's okay with you...
[00:19] <D4rkB34n> Pelo: no, there isn't
[00:20] <keen101> D4rkB34n, in your home directory. there is a folder named "PDF"
[00:20] <Pelo> Rukus,  I mean remove the pluggin , and stop changing you damn nick
[00:20] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: I know that its not necessary to do it but to get the P4 optimization for more speed
[00:20] <swmiller> is there a better place for a bash related question then here?
[00:20] <Phantombun> I'm gonna come back a little bit later, after I finish backing up this stuff, clearing out some space, and dragmenting.
[00:20] <Phantombun> You okay with that?
[00:20] <Pelo> Phantombun,  I might not be around but other will be
[00:20] <Gskellig> ugh
[00:20] <Phantombun> Oi
[00:20] <Pelo> D4rkB34n,  did you give the file a name ?
[00:20] <Phantombun> Actually, would I be better off defragging through windows?
[00:21] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, well, u could do that, what generation pentium 4 is it? HT?
[00:21] <D4rkB34n> Pelo: it didn't ske one for
[00:21] <Pelo> Phantombun,  you can'T defragfrom ubuntu, defrag from windows , defrag a couple of times it will make the resizing go farster
[00:21] <Phantombun> Okay
[00:21]  * Phantombun begins burning set one of data
[00:21] <K_Dallas> Gskellig, well marketing for ubuntu is more like attracting windows users or even other distro users to use ubuntu
[00:21] <Pelo> D4rkB34n,  do you know the extension of the file ?
[00:22] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: Its pentium M "centrino", HT
[00:22] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: sorry i mean no HT
[00:22] <soundray> D4rkB34n: in a terminal, type 'ls -rt $HOME/*pdf' The last line should show the name of the generated file
[00:22] <keen101> D4rkB34n, it should give it the name of the webpage, and put it in a folder in your home directory called "PDF"
[00:22] <Xeon06> This might sound dumb but every once in a while my speaker plays a little song with 3 ascending notes, then 3 quickly descending notes, is that a notification or something?
[00:22] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, mkay...well there is some flags in the 2.6.23 kernel for that processor, but unless ur up for a bit of learning, u might forget about it
[00:22] <Phantombun> Pelo
[00:22]  * Pelo is realy starting to think soundray is out for his job 
[00:22] <allenc> I keep getting sound server fatal error, can someone help?
[00:23] <Phantombun> I'm worried
[00:23] <Pelo> Phantombun, ?
[00:23] <Pelo> about what ?
[00:23] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, if you're interested in compiling your own kernel tho i recommend this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[00:23] <Phantombun> Did I corrupt part of my hard drive when I deleted that file?
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> K_Dallas: Any of that type of discussion belongs in a different room.. See #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:23] <ari_stress> !vlan
[00:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vlan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:23] <Pelo> Phantombun, it is a remote possibility  but not all that likely
[00:23] <K_Dallas> Jack_Sparrow, thank, i will do so
[00:23] <soundray> keen101: he or she said OOo Impress
[00:23] <ari_stress> anyone can help me how to setup vlan in ubuntu?
[00:23] <Phantombun> :S
[00:23] <Pelo> Phantombun,  are you having difficulties ?
[00:23] <Phantombun> Nope.
[00:24] <Pelo> Phantombun,  then why are you worried ?
[00:24] <Phantombun> Just burning some important data to dvds
[00:24] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: do you think the result worse it?
[00:24] <Phantombun> Well, the free space didn't show up
[00:24] <Pelo> Phantombun, run a scandisk
[00:24] <xxx> hi! why when i click "Quit" the shutdown button not there?
[00:24] <Phantombun> ok
[00:24] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, ?
[00:24] <swmiller> I have a script that get a directory path and stores it ina var but the script works untin you pass a directory path that has spaces in them like /home/<usernmame>/Art Work. How can I use sed to replace the spaces wirth "\ " to change the path from /home/<username>/Art Work to /home/<username>/Art\ Work
[00:24] <r3n0c> anybody know how to get ubuntu 7.10 to load to terminal, stead of the default login screen?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> K_Dallas: thanks.. with so many users we need to try and heep this for help with Ubuntu specific issues
[00:24] <D4rkB34n> keen101: thanks, i didn't note that file
[00:24] <keen101> soundray, do you mean he didn't use cupspdf?
[00:24]  * Pelo thinks that Phantombun  is gonna be one of those that will ask questions for an hour before hitting a single key
[00:24] <r3n0c> if i wanted ubuntu to load to terminal instead of the gui login, how od i do that
[00:25]  * Phantombun knows that Pelo is wrong
[00:25] <xxx> only hibernate,logout,switch user, log0out, lock screen
[00:25] <K_Dallas> Jack_Sparrow, i know, i always come here to ask about those kind of questions and i understand you
[00:25] <Evanlec> swmiller, are u using the pwd command in ur script?
[00:25] <soundray> r3n0c: to disable gdm, do 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[00:25] <swmiller> no
[00:25] <kirika> swmiller, you should never use spaces with name try using "_"
[00:25] <keen101> D4rkB34n, so you found it?
[00:25] <D4rkB34n> Pelo: thanxs
[00:25] <Pelo> r3n0c,  I tink you hadd nogui or nogdm in grub
[00:25] <Phantombun> hey what do you know
[00:25] <swmiller> so there is no way to do what I am after
[00:25] <Phantombun> oh, wait
[00:25] <r3n0c> soundray: i just want it to load to terminal, then type gnome or startx to get into visual
[00:25] <Phantombun> my mistake
[00:25]  * Pelo grabs the gratitude and runs away with it 
[00:25] <jsoftw> phht.
[00:26] <r3n0c> not remove it all together
[00:26] <xxx> hi! why when i click "Quit" the shutdown button not there?... only hibernate,logout,switch user, log0out, lock screen
[00:26] <r3n0c> to shutdown just do, sudo shutdown -h now
[00:26] <_Rukus> ok Pelo sorry got disconnected
[00:26] <kirika> xxx, use the terminal
[00:26] <_Rukus> what were you telling me?
[00:26] <D4rkB34n> keen101: yes thanks,
[00:26] <D4rkB34n> Pelo: thanks
[00:26] <soundray> r3n0c: the command doesn't remove the gdm login, it just removes the links that autostart it on boot
[00:26] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: do you think that this operation will result in much more noticeable speed?
[00:26] <Pelo> xxx,  check the permission make sure the user is allowed to shutdown
[00:26] <keen101> D4rkB34n, sure :)
[00:27] <jay_> How can I get java to work in firefox?  I'm trying to play those games on yahoo
[00:27] <Pelo> _Rukus,  you might want to ask in #xchat on how to disable a pluggin
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[00:27] <r3n0c> get the plugin
[00:27] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[00:27] <soundray> r3n0c: that way you can login on the virtual console and run startx
[00:27] <Pelo> jay_,  you need to install the -pluggin pacakge
[00:27] <_Rukus> i want to enable a plugin actually
[00:27] <_Rukus> you misunderstood me, but thats ok
[00:27] <r3n0c> yea thats what i wanted to do
[00:27] <Pelo> _Rukus,  still in #xchat is your best bet
[00:28] <luser> me says hello
[00:28] <jay_> Pelo, what, firefox-pluggin? apt-get install?
[00:28] <_Rukus> so i have notied
[00:28] <_Rukus> thans
[00:28] <_Rukus> thans
[00:28] <_Rukus> er u get it
[00:28] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, to be honest, from what i've read, the difference wil probably be less than noticeable, however there are other options when compling your kernel to boost performance
[00:28]  * luser says hello
[00:28] <Pelo> jay_,   use synaptic,  search for java , install the sun-java...... -plugin package that will be listed that matches your version of java
[00:28] <luser> ahh worked...
[00:28] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: thanks a lot
[00:28] <xxx_> Pelo, i'm the only user.its my machine... :)
[00:28]  * Pelo thinks luser needs an ego boost 
[00:29] <luser> heh
[00:29]  * luser is pretty impressed with Xchat
[00:29] <kirika> xxx_, is it trouble to use the terminal
[00:29] <r3n0c> xxx just do sudo shutdown -h now
[00:29] <Pelo> xxx_, that means nothing,  check in menu > system > admin> user, make sure your username has permission as a user to shutdown the comp
[00:29] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, yea, if ur interested, read up on kernel scheduler settings and the 'realtime' kernel
[00:29] <Xeon06> I have a drive stuck on my desktop, any way to remove it?
[00:29] <r3n0c> just do sudo
[00:29] <DivideZer> someone know about open source irc client for windows ?
[00:29] <xxx_> kirika,  its not... but its not usual like that
[00:29] <Pelo> DivideZer,  xchat
[00:29] <kirika> do what pelo said then
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Xeon06: yes you can edit the menu.. one sec..
[00:29] <DivideZer> Pelo its not free
[00:30] <luser> I've used mirc for years and the last time I gave xchat a look it was like using a terminal to chat
[00:30] <xxx_> okay.. thanks
[00:30] <macele> Evanlec, in the tutorial you linked for building a custom kernel, nothing is said about x86 vs x64 systems... Do I need to download a special kernel for 64 bit systems?
[00:30] <Pelo> DivideZer,  check on google, it is open source, some versions are
[00:30] <luser> it's come a long way
[00:30]  * Superman hi
[00:30] <DivideZer> Pelo , i know it is open source but for windows is not free , i have searched but i didnt found
[00:30] <soundray> macele: you configure 64 vs 32 bit at the make config stage
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Xeon06: To Remove Icons from Desktop after running Diskmounter Use Terminal and type gconf-editor browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck volumes_visable
[00:31] <xxx_> my user can administer the system :)
[00:31] <macele> rgr, thx
[00:31] <luser> and I'm really enjoying Xubuntu, much more responsive than gnome or kde
[00:31] <Xeon06> Will that unmount the volume?
[00:31] <luser> at least on this older laptop
[00:31] <krammer> is it ok to update Ubuntu even though there is a message stating not authenticated
[00:31] <kex> i still have problems with my monitor, can anybody please help me? :(
[00:31] <soundray> Xeon06: no
[00:31] <Pelo> DivideZer,  read carefully, the official is not free, but there are some other releases with tweaks that are
[00:31] <Xeon06> Ok thanks to both of you
[00:31] <r3n0c> kex ?
[00:31] <soundray> kex: what's the problem?
[00:32] <xxx_> brb
[00:32] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: do you know about hard disk load cycle?
[00:32] <Mick_xx> stupid
[00:32] <keen101> DivideZer, is pidgin open source?
[00:32] <Pelo> Mick_xx,  be nice
[00:32] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, mm...not sure what u mean
[00:33]  * luser will be back later... looks like a nice friendly place... 
[00:33] <DivideZer> keen101 , i need serios irc client ... pidgin isnt
[00:33] <Mick_xx> ok i know
[00:33] <Pelo> DivideZer, an older one that is nice and easy is xircon
[00:33] <kex> soundray, i was playing WoW with Wine full screen until it hanged and was forced to reset it, then my resolution went from 1440x900 to 1400x1050 and i cant switch it back
[00:33] <krammer> Is it ok to update Ubuntu even though there is a message stating not authenticated?????
[00:33] <USSJoin> I have an NFS share (hosted on Solaris, not that that should matter). When I try to mount it from one particular computer (a local server running Gutsy with all updates), it refuses with a longish error (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46289/). When I mount it from any other computer (including a Vista machine, another Ubuntu Gutsy + updates laptop, an Edgy laptop, etc.,) it works just fine. Ideas?
[00:33] <keen101> DivideZer, i see.
[00:33] <kirika> DivideZer, use xchat
[00:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !best | DivideZer
[00:33] <ubotu> DivideZer: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[00:33] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: hard disk load cycle is parking/un parking the hard disk's head to save power when running on battery
[00:34] <Pelo> krammer,  you get the not authenticated msg from 3rd party repos,  or backport , it is probably ok
[00:34] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: each hard disk manufacturar sets an average for its product
[00:34] <DivideZer> Jack_Sparrow , its not about " best " i need client ...
[00:34] <soundray> kex: if a crashed program leaves your video hardware in limbo, it's best to reboot... have you done that?
[00:34] <Xeon06> Thanks Jack_Sparrow and Soundray, this worked
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:34] <kitche> USSJoin: I would look at the server configuration the Gutsy one since it's configuration is wrong I would double check it with the systems that are working
[00:34] <kex> soundray, yes, ive had this problem for days
[00:34] <krammer> thanks and how do you reply in the red color?
[00:34] <xxx> is anything i can do to see that "shutdown button"
[00:34] <Pelo> DivideZer, for windows stuff why not ask in ##windows this is #ubuntu
[00:34] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: the average is 600,000 load cycle then you should replace your hard disk
[00:34] <USSJoin> kitche: Which configuration?
[00:34] <Mick_xx> pelo?bad name??
[00:34] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, ohh right, well im not too sure about that as i dont use a laptop currently
[00:34] <Phantombun> Well, time to prepare data for dvd #2 :D
[00:35] <hacked_kernel> Evanlec: ubuntu makes a lot of this cycles per minute more than other OS's
[00:35] <soundray> kex: as you went through dpkg-reconfigure, did you enable your desired resolution in the monitor options?
[00:35] <Phantombun> A question about the dual-boot thing.
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[00:35] <usuario> oi
[00:35] <kitche> USSJoin: the server configuration you had to do some configuration didn't you on the other machines to get NFS working correctly?
[00:35] <void^> hacked_kernel: http://lwn.net/Articles/257426/
[00:35] <Phantombun> Will I be able to make it so that I get a menu when I turn the laptop on?  One that lets me choose Windows or Ubuntu?
[00:35] <kex> soundray, what do u mean? how do i do that?
[00:35] <USSJoin> kitche: No. a mount command worked fine. (see the pastie.)
[00:35] <prived> Press Alt+F4 to become channel operator
[00:35] <USSJoin> I use the same command on all systems.
[00:36] <Pelo> Phantombun, it will be done for you automaticaly
[00:36] <soundray> kex: didn't you read the link that ubotu gave you?
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Phantombun: yes, dual boot.. it is easy
[00:36] <Phantombun> Yay. :)
[00:36] <Mick_xx> pelo stupid boy.......just kidding
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Mick_xx: not appreciated
[00:36] <WorkingOnWise> Jack_Sparrow: does Remote Desktop need to have any software installed on the Windows side, if the Linux side will be taking control?
[00:36] <Pelo> Mick_xx,  I am not
[00:36] <Phantombun> Pelo is actually quite intelligent.
[00:37] <Mick_xx> are you sure.....
[00:37] <kitche> USSJoin: umm yeah wrong FS you sorta of need to tell it the filesystem type most likely
[00:37]  * Pelo is actualy mean nasty and impatient 
[00:37] <kex> soundray, how should i read the entire page? i hardly understand anything of it, ive tried one of the solutions which i understood and it didnt go
[00:37] <thor> WorkingOnWise: no...you just need to enable remote access in XP
[00:37] <Phantombun> you don't seem that way to me
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: I thought there was a remote access program as part of windows.. it works well with ubuntu
[00:37] <dtolj_> I am inquiring about a linux command to list files recursively in a tree view.
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: very simple to config...
[00:37] <USSJoin> kitche: So how do I tell it NFS? And why does no other copy of Ubuntu or anything else need it?
[00:37] <caserzshado> does anyone know where i can find a channel regarding overclocking?
[00:37] <thor> WorkingOnWise: but that feature is only available in XP Pro...not XP Home
[00:37] <Evanlec> hacked_kernel, i've heard some about that, but i dont know how to fix it
[00:38] <Pelo> dtolj_, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php this might help but try man ls
[00:38] <kitche> USSJoin: oh they need it just that they can autodetect it
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: why not use a ub machine to log into the other
[00:38] <soundray> kex: okay. Is the resolution that you want available through System-Preferences-Screen Resolution ?
[00:38] <WorkingOnWise> thor: ahh...these are Home boxes...
[00:38] <killer_> coo
[00:38] <dtolj_> Pelo: thanks
[00:38] <thor> WorkingOnWise...sorry...it won't work...I have run into that issue before
[00:38] <USSJoin> kitche: So... how do I say nfs?
[00:38] <DivideZer> someone have heard about this ? http://www.hydrairc.com/ ? is oss ?
[00:38] <kex> soundray, no, its not there anymore, its been replace with 1400x1050
[00:39] <xxx> how to add that "shutdown"  in quit menu.
[00:39] <WorkingOnWise> Jack_Sparrow: ub machine?
[00:39] <kitche> USSJoin: mount -t nfs it seems you need
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> thor: thanks for the info.. never knew it wasnt in home
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: or are they on windows?
[00:39] <Pelo> DivideZer, if it is sit should say so on the site , and I told you , for windows apps ask in ##windows, I will not say it again
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: Family members etc..
[00:39] <Phantombun> Pelo, I already got over my nervousness, I think.
[00:40] <soundray> kex: in a terminal, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. Accept all the defaults, until you get to the monitor section. At some point, there will be a ticklist of resolutions to enable. Select the one you want from that list.
[00:40] <thor> WorkingOnWise: you can run a vncserver on an XP Home machine, but it won't have the performance of remote desktop
[00:40] <kex> soundray, ok ill try that ^
[00:40] <WorkingOnWise> Jack_Sparrow: they r on Windows XP Home, I am on ub...right now I run an XP vm to do remote assist..talk about bloat!
[00:40] <Phantombun> So, I shouldn't be too much of a hassle when it comes to pushing the next button.
[00:40] <caserzshado> anyone know of any channels regarding overclocking
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: ugh.. got it..
[00:40] <Pelo> Phantombun,  wellcome to neverland , where everything is fine and dandy, you'll be in shock about the lack fo things to worry about for about a week
[00:40] <Mick_xx> all people on here is stupid
[00:41] <Pelo> Phantombun,  what next button ?
[00:41] <USSJoin> kitche: Didn't work; same error.
[00:41] <Phantombun> I'm already in shock over how little cpu ubuntu uses
[00:41] <WorkingOnWise> thor: my big problem is these ppl shouldnt be allowed to even have a pc, but they do...big case of PEBKAC
[00:41] <Phantombun> AND how friendly it is on my laptop battery
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: So our rdesktop cant do remote assist with XP..?
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> WorkingOnWise: home that is
[00:41] <xxx> guys..
[00:41] <fortify> Can anyone tell me why when i right click on a program and say open with wine it crashes BUT when i goto a terminal and type wine (SHAMEFILE) it loads fine?
[00:41] <thor> WorkingOnWise:If you are trying to do remote maintenance, configs and such then vnc might be your answer.
[00:41] <Led_Zeppelin1> for 64bit people, should they got for 64bit version of Ubuntu or 32bit. I am a big youtube watcher...
[00:42] <Pelo> Phantombun, that is weird usualy the battery life is of some concern for ppl using linux, I guess thngs got better in gutsy
[00:42] <keen101> according to Mick_xx we all is stupid.   hehe
[00:42] <scguy318> fortify: it might be that the working directory is set incorrectly
[00:42] <WorkingOnWise> Jack_Sparrow: ot without installing on their machine..they will surely screw it up!
[00:42] <thor> Jack_Sparrow: you can do remote assist...but not remote desktop
[00:42] <Pelo> !who | xxx
[00:42] <ubotu> xxx: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[00:42] <thewheat> anybody know how to record from line-in? cant seem to get sound recorder to work :(
[00:42] <Phantombun> Well, Ubuntu is certainly more friendly than windows, that's for sure
[00:42] <gewuerzwiesel81> http://2girls1cup.com/ <- tastyladies
[00:42] <usser> thewheat, use ffmpeg :)
[00:43] <soundray> Led_Zeppelin1: 64bit can be advantageous if you run certain CPU-intensive tasks. Otherwise,32 will give you fewer troubles.
[00:43] <Pelo> thewheat, check in alsamixer make sure that the mic and line in are open and properly set in the capture portion
[00:43] <Phantombun> AND, I noticed that it doesn't use anywhere NEAR as much ram as windows.
[00:43] <Phantombun> That's an up.
[00:43] <Pelo> Phantombun, that is true
[00:43] <xxx> i'm asking same question Re: "Shutdown" button... not in the Quit... anyone knows why?
[00:43] <scguy318> xxx: perhaps your X session wasn't spawned by gdm
[00:44] <Pelo> xxx, did you check your username 's permission settings in the user dialog box ?
[00:44] <keen101> Led_Zeppelin1, 64bit will get better in the future though.
[00:44] <xxx> Pelo,  yes
[00:44] <fortify> RE ask, Can anyone tell me why when i right click on a program and say open with wine it crashes BUT when i goto a terminal and type wine (SHAMEFILE) it loads fine?
[00:44] <xxx> is ok
[00:44] <xxx> its*
[00:44] <usser> thewheat, do sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[00:44] <Pelo> xxx, shut down with sudo from the terminal and see it if is fixed after a reboot
[00:44] <soundray> xxx: it can also happen if you modified your gnome config or gconf while gnome was running
[00:44] <usser> thewheat, then in mixer set the input to line in
[00:44] <xxx> soundray, its newly full installed
[00:44] <usser> thewheat, and in terminal type in  ffmpeg -f audio_device -i /dev/dsp output.wav
[00:45] <usser> thewheat, this will proceed to create a wav file in the directory from which u executed ffmpeg
[00:45] <xxx> i did that shutdown thru terminal... and it the same thing...
[00:45] <Led_Zeppelin1> keen101: now go with 32bit?
[00:45] <Phantombun> oh, i'm still brand new to linux
[00:45] <Juz_moi> what command will tell me what version of ipw3945 driver a person is running?
[00:45] <Phantombun> But, I must say that I already like it
[00:45] <Pelo> xxx, you check for your username or did you check for root ?
[00:45] <Phantombun> plus, i've already got experience with command lines
[00:46] <mEck0> which desktop env. is most efficient to use with dual-core cpu's and 4GB DDR2 memory? gnome is kind of pain because it not get so much faster after I upgraded my pc. not so much it should be. Win Vista is much faster. is kde faster than gnome, or which should I try?
[00:46] <Phantombun> so, i feel like i've got a little bit of a head-start as a n00b
[00:46] <riotz> what the heck.. unbuntu doesnt accept the login details ive entered on the setup
[00:46] <kitche> Juz_moi: there isn't one since the version is always the same usually the firmware is the only thing that might tell you
[00:46] <keen101> Led_Zeppelin1, it's up to you. If it were me I'd probably just take the plunge and go for 64bit. Things can only get better.
[00:46] <riotz> what can i do now
[00:46] <xxx> Pelo, i check it for user.... but it can adminter the system this user...
[00:46] <fortify> gnome is easier on cpu
[00:46] <Pelo> Phantombun,  i installed it to try out when 6.06 came out, life long windows user, I ddinT' reboot windows for 5 days , and only then to go and grab my email settings
[00:46] <jrib> mEck0: everything should be fast on that setup...
[00:46] <Phantombun> lol, serious?
[00:46] <Pelo> xxx, I don'T know then
[00:47] <thewheat> Pelo: do both mic and line in have to be open? i am recording from line in only
[00:47] <jrib> riotz: reboot in recovery mode and reset the password using 'passwd USER_NAME'
[00:47] <xxx> Pelo, okay thanks... i'm gonna try other things :)
[00:47] <xxx> brb
[00:47] <mEck0> jrib, there is a delay when I for example open folders and stuff like that. In vista it's much faster, so fast that a person can't open folders faster than the folder shows up, there kind of no delay. in gnome there is, which is annoying I think
[00:47] <jrib> riotz: if you aren't sure of the user name, do a 'ls /home'
[00:48] <riotz> hmm cool thing let me try
[00:48] <Pelo> Phantombun,  I kid you not , the only time I boot windows anyomre is when I need to use autocad and I don't need to do it much these days,   I clean installed my whole comp a few months ago and i only made a 10 gig part for windows,  I have xp and autocad on it and that is it , ddin't reinastll anything else
[00:48] <Juz_moi> hmm ok kitche , no way to check the driver version?
[00:48] <fortify> meck:
[00:48] <Phantombun> Wow
[00:48] <Phantombun> Well, I'm gonna keep both.
[00:48] <rcahilig> Hi, I have Ubuntu Gutsy installed but audio is not working, my audio device is  "ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)" please help
[00:48] <Pelo> thewheat,  well line in at least , make sure it is not muted and that the cursor is up
[00:48] <crimsun> rcahilig: install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)
[00:48] <riotz> yeh there we go.. i had a typo the first time and went back to change it
[00:48] <crimsun> rcahilig: then reboot.
[00:48] <kex> soundray, i think the autodetection of my monitor failed, its asking me for an identifier and the default is "Generic Monitor"
[00:49] <riotz> seems like it took the username i entered the first time
[00:49] <soundray> kex: that's fine
[00:49] <soundray> kex: just accept
[00:49] <kex> soundray, ok, ill do that
[00:49] <Pelo> Phantombun,  I have both,  xp is occasionnaly usefull,  when I don,t have a choice butthe moment i find a decent acad alternative on linux it is gone
[00:49] <riotz> is it possible to rename accounts?
[00:49] <rcahilig> crimsun:thank you, I will try this right away
[00:49] <Pelo> Phantombun,  well maybe not, it only takes 10 gig after all
[00:49] <thor> Pelo: how heavy a cad program do you need?
[00:49] <Phantombun> I'll probably still use xp a lot
[00:50] <jrib> riotz: read 'man usermod'.  I do not know if the gui (system -> adiministration -> users and groups) lets you do it as well
[00:50] <Phantombun> as i frequently take part in a hacking community that uses a program that runs under windows
[00:50] <kex> soundray, ok, i came so far now, how do i know which resolutions i dont need?
[00:50] <Phantombun> plus, i've been with windows since 3.1
[00:50] <riotz> dont have a gui right now.. installed the server version
[00:50] <saurdo> i run an xp and ubuntu dual boot and the time in ubuntu keeps getting reset and it changes the time in xp
[00:51] <soundray> kex: there's no harm in ticking too many boxes
[00:51] <jrib> !who | riotz
[00:51] <ubotu> riotz: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:51] <Pelo> thor, not pro-eng or solidworks,   acad works for most of what I have to do and then some , I'm basicaly a draftsman,  ( well industrial designer actualy) I only realy put out plans and some rendering,  I don'T do much modelisation , unless I need to work something out on my own end
[00:51] <kex> soundray, ok x)
[00:51] <thewheat> usser: how do i set the input to line in? i can hear the line in input over the speakers if i unmute it from volume controls. when i record from ffmpeg all i get is a humming sound
[00:51] <riotz> ubotu ok sorry
[00:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok sorry - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:51] <soundray> kex: X will automatically eliminate those that your hardware doesn't support
[00:51] <usser> thewheat, open up the mixer
[00:51] <riotkittie> fstab loads swap, eh?
[00:52] <thor> Pelo: Qcad is 2D...was released to the public in 2005...seems to be ok but I admit I don't use it much
[00:52] <keen101> Phantombun, I've been with win since 3.1 too, but after a year or so with ubuntu I really don't need windows anymore.
[00:52] <usser> thewheat, tell me what tabs u see?
[00:52] <Pelo> thor,  there was a nice acad alt I got a while back actualy it was kind of a port to wine , but it was heavy has hell , that would have suited me nice but it was also pay for
[00:52] <kex> soundray, ok
[00:52] <Pelo> thor,  sorry to say , qcad and sagcad suck big times
[00:52] <thor> Pelo: I believe Qcad is available through Yast
[00:52] <Pelo> thor,  qcad is available in the repos
[00:52] <kex> soundray, i think it crashed
[00:52] <thor> Pelo: does it...like I said I don't use it much...but was always fascinated with the possibilitieis
[00:53] <Phantombun> it's talking just a bit longer to burn this dvd as normal
[00:53] <keen101> Phantombun, keep it just in case, but in the long run you will probably learn to live without it.
[00:53] <kex> soundray, xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[00:53] <kex>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071130015224
[00:53] <Phantombun> i've got it set to verify the disc upon completion
[00:53] <kex> sorry for pasting
[00:53] <Phantombun> since it's some important stuff i'm putting on there
[00:53] <Pelo> thor,  I'm waiting for somethign called cadonlinux , it's in beta 1 right now,  Ihave great hopes
[00:53] <saurdo> i run an xp and ubuntu dual boot and the time in ubuntu keeps getting reset and it changes the time in xp
[00:53] <Jordanna> can anyone name off hand a nice nntp proxy server?
[00:53] <thor> Pelo: I used AutoSketch quite a bit (shows my age, doesn't that?)
[00:53] <JavaScript> Jordannanges the time in xp
[00:53] <JavaScript> [02:54] <Jordanna> can anyon
[00:54] <JavaScript> oppps
[00:54] <tman__> is there a way to send text messages to a cell phone from a computer?
[00:54] <soundray> kex: no, I think it finished normally. Close all programs and Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to try the new settings
[00:54] <thor> Pelo: always wanted to find something like ASketch for linux
[00:54] <Jordanna> :S
[00:54] <kex> soundray, ok brb then
[00:54] <Pelo> thor, I remember autosketch but I never realy used it , I learned on acad 9.0 that tells you my age
[00:54] <jrib> !offtopic +
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic + - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54] <thewheat> usser: the mixer is opened from volume control when right clicking the volume icon in the panel right? i see 2 tabs playback and switches. in switches there is line-in capture which i have checked. in playback i have master, pcm, line-in, cd, microphone, pc speaker. each channel in playback has a mute/unmute button below the volume control
[00:54] <arghh2d2> tman__, depends on the cell phones carrier, some support it some dont
[00:54] <jrib> !offtopic | tman__
[00:54] <ubotu> tman__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:54]  * Pelo thinks jrib  is no fun 
[00:55] <lewis> hello ubuntu
[00:55] <usser> thewheat, ok so in switches its line-in right
[00:55] <Xeon06> Anybody knows of a network traffic meter working with gnome?
[00:55] <jrib> Pelo: nope, #ubuntu-offtopic is for fun :)
[00:55] <thewheat> usser: under file > change device. i have 2 options: 0:VIA 8237 (alsa mixer) and 1: realtek alc655re 1 (oss mixer). currently 0 is selected
[00:55] <kex> soundray, it is works! :D
[00:56] <lewis> can you tell me some more details?
[00:56] <usser> thewheat, yes thats fine
[00:56] <usser> thewheat, do sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[00:56] <Pelo> thor,  I tried running my installed xp throught vmware , and using autocad on it , it actualy worked wiht two minor hitch,  1 xp would ask me to reauthorise each time,  I solve it by cracking my very legit version of xp, but acad was a bit worse prety much did the same thing but the autorisation process was a bit more instence
[00:57] <thewheat> i have ffmpeg installed already
[00:57] <akunan> How do I start using a new external usb hd for storage
[00:57] <L0wTeK> hello people :)
[00:57] <thewheat> usser: when i record via ffmpeg using /dev/dsp all i hear is a hum. do i have 2 mute line-in for recording?
[00:57] <jsoftw> Yay, just got a gig stick for my workstation... all nice and smooth now
[00:57] <Jordanna> !proxy server
[00:57] <Pelo> L0wTeK, hello
[00:57] <Jordanna> !proxyserver
[00:57] <Jordanna> :-(
[00:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxyserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:57] <Pelo> Jordanna, what are you ni need of ? tor ?
[00:57] <Some_Person> How do I do DV Capture over USB?
[00:58] <L0wTeK> hi Pelo :)
[00:58] <Pelo> Jordanna, http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[00:58] <Jordanna> tor
[00:58] <Jordanna> ?
[00:58] <ari_stress> guys, why is my /etc/network/interfaces only contains config for lo?
[00:59] <LiMaO> jsoftw: the more of them, the better it feels =D
[00:59] <soundray> !info papercut | Jordanna
[00:59] <ubotu> jordanna: papercut: simple and extensible NNTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.13-4 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 452 kB
[00:59] <Pelo> Jordanna, the onion router,  it's a proxy system
[00:59] <L0wTeK> anyone here who can help me with a xfish installation on xchat?
[00:59] <Jordanna> no, im looking for an nntp
[00:59] <usser> thewheat, hm i dont think u have to
[00:59] <Jordanna> ahh, thanks soundray
[00:59] <soundray> Jordanna: papercut does NNTP proxying
[00:59] <Pelo> Jordanna, isnT' nntp a newsgroup server ?
[00:59] <usser> thewheat, as long as the input source is selected u should be fine
[00:59] <Jordanna> yeah Pelo
[00:59] <L0wTeK> every time I try to start fish on xchat I get-> /usr/lib/xchat-gnome/plugins/xfish.so: symbol __guard, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[01:00] <Pelo> L0wTeK,  try asking in #xchat
[01:00] <Pelo> Jordanna, then you need a newsgroop reader ?
[01:00] <Jordanna> yes
[01:00] <L0wTeK> thanks Pelo will do  that
[01:00] <Jordanna> but im looking for a nntp proxy server for nix
[01:00] <Jordanna> :)
[01:00] <Pelo> Jordanna, try pan
[01:00] <Pelo> Jordanna, don' tknow then
[01:01]  * Pelo is a bit lost now 
[01:01] <Jordanna> lol
[01:02] <Jordanna> theres like 100 nntp proxy servers for windows
[01:02] <Pelo> Jordanna, it's not new, I'm tired and I get confused easily
[01:02] <Jordanna> but hardly any basic ones for nix
[01:02] <Jordanna> ;/
[01:02] <rcahilig> crimsun: I did install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r), still no audio
[01:02] <wers> what's the folder where I can find the archive of debs again? :D
[01:02] <Jordanna> soundray: papercut is a nntp server, im looking for a nntp proxy
[01:02] <soundray> Jordanna: papercut does NNTP proxying
[01:02] <Pelo> wers,  /var/cache/apt/archive or someting linket hat
[01:03] <Jordanna> ok
[01:04] <rcahilig> crimsun: I also installed the latest alsa-driver from source
[01:04] <kiyoshi_wolf> o.o oh hi
[01:04] <juaco> hello need help please, gdm and hal are gone, at least
[01:04] <kiyoshi_wolf> hey does anyone know hot to install beryl on gutsy?
[01:04] <kiyoshi_wolf> im really new to this
[01:04] <Phydoux> Whats a good PDF creator for Ubuntu?
[01:04] <kiyoshi_wolf> how*
[01:05] <usser> kiyoshi_wolf, why beryl?
[01:05] <Some_Person> Can I capture DV Video over USB in Ubuntu?
[01:05] <mkultrax> theres someone asking about beryl every time i come in here..
[01:05] <usser> kiyoshi_wolf, just reminding that beryl is obsolete now
[01:05] <usser> kiyoshi_wolf, use compiz-fusion instead
[01:05] <crimsun> rcahilig: download http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, run it, and tell me the url it generates.
[01:05] <thewheat> usser: hey i got it working via playing around with alsamixer. thanks :) only issue now is there is still the hum when i playback the audio. do you know why is that so?
[01:05] <Pelo> Some_Person,  dv video
[01:05] <Pelo> ?
[01:05] <keen101> Phydoux, i hear scribus is good.
[01:05] <bernhard_> ?
[01:06] <Pelo> mkultrax, stop comming in here maybe they will stop asking
[01:06] <soundray> Phydoux: use cups-pdf -- it installs a virtual printer
[01:06] <Pelo> bernhard_, ?
[01:06] <Phydoux> soundray, Ah, Thats what I want. Thanks!
[01:06] <soundray> Phydoux: alternatively, generate ps files and convert them with ps2pdf
[01:06] <keen101> Phydoux, cups-pdf is nice too.
[01:06] <Some_Person> Pelo: I have a Camcorder which can output video on a miniDV tape via usb or firewire. Is there any way to cature the video using USB on Ubuntu? It works on Windows.
[01:07] <Pelo> Some_Person, try looking up your model in www.ubuntuforums.org or try searching for relavant keywords,  you will probably have more luck then in here
[01:08] <kiyoshi_wolf> hey does anyone know hot to install beryl on gutsy? anyone?
[01:08] <Pelo> Some_Person,  I am sure you can do it , but not how
[01:08] <Some_Person> Pelo: I have searched the forums. Most people end up using firewire.
[01:08] <juaco> please help me out, gdm and hal stopped working
[01:08] <usser> thewheat, it happens to me when the volume of the capture device set high
[01:08] <usser> thewheat, the sound gets all distorted
[01:08] <soundray> juaco: what did you do?
[01:08] <usser> thewheat, try lowering it a bit
[01:08] <juaco> nothing
[01:08] <juaco> just relogged
[01:08] <Pelo> kiyoshi_wolf, you don't need beryl on gutsy , compiz is installed by default,  and beryl merged back with compiz to form compiz-fusion
[01:08] <soundray> juaco: "relogged"?
[01:09] <juaco> sorry, "log out" then "log back in"
[01:09] <soundray> juaco: have you tried rebooting?
[01:09] <juaco> yes, also tried uninstalling and purging apt cache, then reinstalling
[01:10] <thewheat> usser: i still get the huming sound and the audio quality recorded is much lower than the source. is it supposed to be like that?
[01:10] <rcahilig> crimsun: Hi, there is an error when I try tor un your script, error is: Do you want to run this script? [y/n] : read: 195: Illegal option -e
[01:10] <Pelo> juaco,  reinstalling what exactly ?
[01:10] <soundray> juaco: reinstalling ubuntu?
[01:10] <juaco> no
[01:10] <Phydoux> soundray, I used apt-get to install cups-pdf. It looks like it installed OK but I cant see it in any of my apps. Do I need to restart?
[01:10] <juaco> gdm and gdm-themes
[01:10] <followme`> hello
[01:10] <juaco> i don't know what could be, i even cleaned all logs to see an error messages, found nothing
[01:10] <followme`> i can't get my wireless internet to work with ubuntu 7.10
[01:10] <Pelo> juaco,  why did you do that ?
[01:11] <soundray> Phydoux: IIRC, it needs enabling in System-Administration-Printing
[01:11] <juaco> what, reinstalling or cleaning the logs?
[01:11] <crimsun> rcahilig: use bash.
[01:11] <keen101> Phydoux, when you try to print something select the "PDF printer"
[01:11] <followme`> i have a broadcom 43xx wireless card
[01:11] <usser> thewheat, hum... i dont really know what else to suggest try playing with alsamixer. As to the quality how do u figure its lower?
[01:11] <kiyoshi_wolf> i dont see that cube thingy tho...
[01:11] <usser> thewheat, by listening?
[01:11] <rcahilig> crimsun: also this error: [: 195: y: unexpected operator
[01:11] <kiyoshi_wolf> like ive seen on videos
[01:11] <keen101> Phydoux, never mind. i read it wrong.
[01:11] <Pelo> followme`,  you messedit up pretty badly earlier,   I sughgest you back up your /home folder and clean install,   then work on the soud problem whitout removing needed pacakges
[01:11]  * Phantombun begins burning dvd #2 :D
[01:11] <usser> thewheat, ffmpeg by default only records with 1 channel ie mono
[01:12] <usser> thewheat, try setting -ac 2
[01:12] <Pelo> kiyoshi_wolf, you need to ask in #compiz-fusion they will be able to tell you how to do that stuff
[01:12] <Phantombun> This one will have some tv shows i recorded with my HD tv tuner :D
[01:12] <Phantombun> They add up to 3.3 GB
[01:12] <Phantombun> So, it'll be worth the burn :D
[01:13]  * Pelo thnks Phantombun needs a narrower definition of important data 
[01:13] <ztomic> followme`: have you googled it or searched forums?
[01:13] <juaco> Pelo why did i do "what"?
[01:13] <Phydoux> I see it in System-Administration-Printing How do I enable it?
[01:13] <usser> thewheat, ie ffmpeg -f audio_device -ac 2 -i /dev/dsp output.wav
[01:13] <thewheat> usser: thanks of the help so far. i really appreciate it :) yeah on playback it sounds of much lower quality of the input
[01:13] <Pelo> juaco, why did you unsintall gdm and gdm themes
[01:13] <Phantombun> I'm mainly just making some space for my linux partition
[01:13] <Some_Person> I have a Camcorder which can output video on a miniDV tape via USB or Firewire. Is there any way to cature the video using USB on Ubuntu? It works on Windows.
[01:13] <Phantombun> my 3rd dvd will be about 2 gigs of pictures and videos that i have taken
[01:13] <Phantombun> :D
[01:14] <usser> thewheat, try -ac 2 it should improve quality somehow
[01:14] <Pelo> Some_Person, try looking up your model in www.ubuntuforums.org or try searching for relavant keywords,  you will probably have more luck then in here
[01:14] <ouellettesr> does anyone know if "Ultra-fast g speed" wireless notebook adapters work with ubuntu?
[01:14] <Phydoux> Actually, I see it when I click Add Printer
[01:14] <Some_Person> Pelo: I have searched with no luck.
[01:14] <Phantombun> Oh, I did run into one problem with ubuntu
[01:14] <Pelo> ouellettesr, in #hardware maybe
[01:14] <ouellettesr> thanks pelo
[01:14] <Phantombun> I couldn't get it to associate with OUR router
[01:15] <Pelo> Some_Person, with different keywords,  or in more general terms,  or on google, what happens when you plug your camera in the computer ?
[01:15] <xxx> hi! i'm back!
[01:15] <juaco> Pelo, i installed them back, thought that could have been some misconfiguration, though i hadn't touch nothing...maybe reinstalling was the solution
[01:15] <Phantombun> i was able to get it to associate with my neighbors, but not ours.
[01:15] <keen101> kiyoshi_wolf, compizconfig-settings-manager is what you want.
[01:15] <Phantombun> Theirs is unsecure, ours is wep
[01:15] <Pelo> juaco, that still does not tell my why you uninstalled them in the first place
[01:15] <Espionage724> hi
[01:15] <usser> thewheat, i think it also depends on the quality of your cables their length etc
[01:15] <Some_Person> Pelo: absolutely nothing except it mounts the SD Card it uses to take pictures.
[01:16] <Espionage724> I have a question about my Video Card
[01:16] <juaco> Pelo, because it stopped working, that's why
[01:16] <Phantombun> My wireless card:  Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[01:16] <soundray> juaco: is it working now?
[01:16] <rcahilig> crimsun: How do I use bash?
[01:16] <vasilisa> i know this is an ubuntu channel but, Can somebody please explain? In K3b when i try to rip a dvd, it doesn't list tracks anymore. It lists an AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS directory. Why arent there tracks like there were before i reinstalled kubuntu?
[01:16] <Espionage724> How can i tell how much Video RAM i have?
[01:16] <Pelo> Some_Person,  in menu > systme > prefs> removeable media  , 3rd tab , second option , check the box and plug the camera in again
[01:16] <zumbrujm> I'm trying to get compiz to run on my computer using the tutorial on this webpage: http://lug.phire.org/index.php/HOWTO:_Ubuntu_Compiz_Fusion_ATi
[01:17] <xxx_> hi! when i log-in as root... i can't use internet... i think i disables my connection.. and when i go to user/groups it says i dont have permission???
[01:17] <juaco> no, it continued to fail after the reinstall, worst thing is: it doesn't log any error
[01:17] <Pelo> zumbrujm, ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:17] <xxx_> is my box broke?
[01:17] <uKKeMan> maybe the dvd is burned as a svcd/vcd?
[01:17] <Flannel> xxx_: Why are you logging in as root?
[01:17] <Pelo> juaco, clean insatll
[01:17] <juaco> the only error i could get was  calling it from command line
[01:17] <juaco> yes i did Pelo
[01:17] <vasilisa> uKKeMan: no, its any dvd i try
[01:17] <Optyx> Espionage724; what kind of graphics card do you have?
[01:17] <zumbrujm> The error I get is that bash ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run, no such file or directory
[01:17] <juaco> Pelo you mean if is a fresh install? no it isnt
[01:17] <xxx_> Flannel,  i try something... like to see if my problem is the same as root.
[01:17] <Pelo> juaco, clean instal the whole ubuntu os from scratch
[01:18] <xxx_> Flannel, i cant see the shutdown button
[01:18] <zumbrujm> Pelo: thanks.
[01:18] <Espionage724> Intel 945GM
[01:18] <vasilisa> There's even an error message but it flashes too quickly
[01:18] <thewheat> usser: but if it is the cable, the playback (unmute line-in via alsamixer) would be of low quality as well right?
[01:18] <NemesisD> how can i tell what version of ubuntu is installed from the command line?
[01:18] <Flannel> NemesisD: lsb_release -a
[01:18] <soundray> juaco: I concur with Pelo. Do a reinstall -- it's probably quicker than tracking down the problem
[01:18] <Pelo> I'm off, g'night folks , Phantombun best of luck
[01:18] <juaco> i'm having a cardiac arrest
[01:18] <NemesisD> Flannel, cool, thanks
[01:18] <Phantombun> Thank you, Pelo
[01:18] <Phantombun> :)
[01:18] <usser> thewheat, yes u're right
[01:18] <xxx_> juaco,  911 :)
[01:19] <usser> thewheat, ehm... i dunno sorry
[01:19] <juaco> :'( it
[01:19] <soundray> juaco: try a precordial thump.
[01:19] <ztomic> followme`: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625680&highlight=43xx .
[01:19] <Optyx> Espionage724; you can try the command glxinfo in the terminal see what that tells you
[01:19] <juaco> lol
[01:19] <juaco> ok
[01:19] <soundray> juaco: for further medical support, /join #er
[01:19] <crimsun> rcahilig: bash /path/to/alsa-info.sh
[01:19] <pablin> hi
[01:19] <juaco> well thanks folks i'm trying a bit more then clean install
[01:20] <juaco> bye :'(
[01:20] <xxx_> is someone can answer my problem... the "shutdown" button is missing when i click "quit"
[01:20] <soundray> juaco: good luck
[01:20] <pablin> i have acer aspire 5100
[01:20] <Espionage724> glxinfo Doesn;t tell me how much Video RAM i have
[01:20] <pablin> ene card reader how to
[01:20] <AboSamoor> i can't access "/usr/local", it's status "unreadable" , how i can change that ?!!!
[01:20] <Reno> Anyone able to help me install ubuntu over xp? I'm up to the resizing poiint but i don't know how to do anymore
[01:21] <ztomic> eww thats ugly. I'm glad I have Atheros.
[01:21] <soundray> Espionage724: grep RAM /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:21] <rcahilig> crimsun: here it is http://pastebin.ca/802289
[01:22] <xxx_> Reno,  back-up your windows file then insert ubuntu installer  and follow the rest :)
[01:22] <Espionage724> i ran grep RAM and my termal just hung there lol
[01:22] <Reno> xxx_: I'm not that stupid, but i'm trying to do this as a dual boot and i'm at a weird point
[01:22] <rcahilig> crimsun: nice script
[01:22] <soundray> Espionage724: give it the name of the log file
[01:22] <Espionage724> ok
[01:22] <soundray> Espionage724: grep RAM /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:23] <crimsun> rcahilig: err, your PCM levels are set to zero...
[01:23] <kiyoshi_wolf> z-fusion
[01:23] <xxx_> Reno,  im in triple boot with xp,ubuntu,pcoslinux so i have a little knows  what to do :)
[01:23] <kiyoshi_wolf> dammit
[01:23] <Optyx> Espionage724;  in the terminal try the command sudo lshw |grep video you might get an error that lshw is not installed but if it is should give you all the info on your graphics card
[01:23] <keen101> kiyoshi_wolf, compizconfig-settings-manager will get you the cube
[01:23] <rcahilig> crimsun: how do i fix this? please help
[01:23] <Espionage724> ok i copy/pasted the thing you said and it said (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[01:24] <crimsun> rcahilig: raise the level using the mixer applet in the upper right corner of the top panel
[01:24] <soundray> Espionage724: nothing else? Listen to Optyx then
[01:25] <crimsun> rcahilig: you may need to add the mixer element via Open> Edit> Preferences>
[01:25] <rcahilig> crimsun: the volume is full
[01:25] <crimsun> rcahilig: note that I'm referring to the specific label 'PCM', not 'Master'
[01:25] <Optyx> Espionage724 if lshw isn't installed use sudo apt-get install lshw it's a useful command line tool
[01:25] <rcahilig> crimsun: I'm using ALSA
[01:25] <graelin> If I install software from source, does Synaptic get updated or will I have problems getting .deb packages/upgrades later?
[01:25] <Reno> xxx_ okay, which one do i choose? Guided - resize scs14(0 or 1 or 0) or partition #1 (sda) and use freed space
[01:25] <Espionage724> ok ill try that
[01:26] <Flannel> graelin: No, synaptic only knwos about deb files.  When you install from source, you should install into /usr/local
[01:26] <rarito> anybody knows how can i recover ubuntu before Fedora puts its 'boots' directory in 'boot' Ubuntu's directory?
[01:26] <Flannel> graelin: then you can just yank it out later
[01:26] <Grav3Mind> whats on the ubuntu cd versus the dvd?
[01:26] <kitche> Grav3Mind: dvd has more packages that can be installed after installing ubuntu
[01:26] <xxx_> Reno,  you have 2 hd?
[01:26] <Flannel> Grav3Mind: DVD is Live + Alternate + More packages.
[01:27] <Grav3Mind> ah
[01:27] <Reno> xxx_ I have 3 but only one is hooked up
[01:27] <Grav3Mind> and theres an adept commit error i have to fix everytime i install kubuntu...will i have to fix that with ubuntu
[01:27] <Grav3Mind> it seems to be quite collon
[01:27] <rcahilig> crimsun: Its already full, I tried to play mp3 but I can't hear anything
[01:27] <Grav3Mind> LOL
[01:27] <xxx_> Reno,  your xp on it?
[01:27] <Grav3Mind> common*
[01:28] <Reno> xxx_ yes
[01:28] <Espionage724> it didnt list my video ram still. It said something about PCI, then SCSI, then Frame, and then it took me back to ****@Unreal-Laptop:~#
[01:28] <crimsun> rcahilig: pastebin the output from `amixer sget 'PCM'`
[01:28] <xxx_> maybe its better to partition first thru gparted... you know how to do that?
[01:28] <sfears> when i tried to butn a cd using k3b it gave me an error about not being able to burn mp3's.. what program can i use to burn mp3s
[01:28] <sfears> ??
[01:28] <Reno> yeah, this is too much effort i'll just forget about it
[01:28] <Grav3Mind> do you guys like ubuntu better than kubuntu?
[01:29] <ztomic> Grav3Mind: Ubuntu here
[01:29] <Grav3Mind> compiz is MUCH better in ubuntu right?
[01:29] <Espionage724> yep
[01:29] <ztomic> screwdrive KDE
[01:29] <Grav3Mind> and ubuntu seems to be more stable to me
[01:29] <rcahilig> crimsun: you mean I will run the script agian?
[01:29] <wers> I have guifications installed but I can't see it in the plugin choices in pidgin
[01:30] <wers> I installed pidgin 2.3.0 from a 3rd part repo
[01:30] <wers> any idea?
[01:30] <rcahilig> crimsun: I'm sorry, I'm too lame on this
[01:30] <Grav3Mind> hey ztomic
[01:30] <ztomic> howdy!
[01:30] <Grav3Mind> i have a compiz question for ya while im at it
[01:30] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[01:30] <Grav3Mind> and by at it i mean downloading ubuntu to get rid of kubuntu
[01:30] <Grav3Mind> lol
[01:31] <Grav3Mind> but im in my "ubuntu-desktop"
[01:31] <IdleOne> Grav3Mind: why not just a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <Espionage724> I also have another Video Card question. Is there a updated video driver for the Intel 945GM?
[01:31] <Anthology> can someone refer me to a method of password protecting applications and text files on my user account?
[01:31] <ztomic> me? I run compiz on radeon 7200 fine. My other ati card cant run glx werth a darn.
[01:31] <Grav3Mind> because the two are screwing with each other idleone
[01:31] <Grav3Mind> i already have that
[01:31] <IdleOne> Grav3Mind: sounds about right
[01:31] <thewheat> usser: it's ok. at least i am now able to record something :)
[01:31] <thewheat> usser: thanks for the help
[01:31] <Grav3Mind> like i enable compiz for ubuntu
[01:32] <Grav3Mind> and it did it for my kubuntu install
[01:32] <Grav3Mind> and messed it up
[01:32] <Grav3Mind> now only my kubuntu desktop works
[01:32] <Grav3Mind> @_@
[01:32] <rcahilig> crimsun: here it is: http://pastebin.ca/802295
[01:32] <sfears> mabey serpentine
[01:32] <Grav3Mind> but i want the cube desktop switch effect but the only one i can seem to get  to work is the fliping one
[01:32] <ztomic> Grav3Mind: if you just want "looks" compiz is fine. if you want to "compute" ditch compiz.
[01:33] <kuribohx> same problem as before: ubuntu 6.06 hangs on boot up from live disk
[01:33] <Grav3Mind> well looks is what i want ATM but later on when i get more serious.....
[01:33] <FrankLakatos> is it possible to install ubuntu on mac w/o a partition
[01:34] <Flannel> FrankLakatos: the mac has no partition? or you want Ubuntu to not have a partition?
[01:34] <Grav3Mind> but ztomic can you help me get the cube desktop switch to work?
[01:34] <jrib> FrankLakatos: virtualized maybe like with virtualbox?
[01:34] <kuribohx> pici: you were helping me before
[01:34] <Grav3Mind> everything like the wobbly windows works so i know its fine
[01:34] <FrankLakatos> I have a powerbook g4 with tiger, that has no partitions on it, and id like to figure out how to get ubuntu server running on it
[01:34] <Grav3Mind> but i just cant get anything other than like..a flipping page to work
[01:34] <ztomic> Grav3Mind: nope. did it once to check it out but it means nothing to me.
[01:34] <Grav3Mind> ah ok
[01:35] <Grav3Mind> got ya
[01:35] <FrankLakatos> as a caviat, i know nothing about linux
[01:35] <FrankLakatos> whats virtual box?
[01:35] <Grav3Mind> anyone in here pretty good with messing with compiz?
[01:35] <Anthology> is there a way to password protect files or applications with ubuntu 7.10? like can someone point me to an application?
[01:35] <Grav3Mind> or should i just go to #compiz
[01:35] <IdleOne> !dualboot | FrankLakatos
[01:35] <ubotu> FrankLakatos: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:36] <raul> Anthology , what about perms?
[01:36] <jrib> FrankLakatos: virtualbox.org it will be like running ubuntu in a window from OSX
[01:36] <crimsun> rcahilig: ah, you need a newer quirk
[01:36] <FrankLakatos> Nice, thanks all- ill keep you posted
[01:37] <ztomic> Anthology: man chown and chmod. are you talking encrypt?
[01:37] <rcahilig> crimsun: what is quirk? Its the first time I heard that
[01:37] <Espionage724> Is it bad if Ubuntu does not detect my Cpu instruction SSE3?
[01:37] <Espionage724> because i know i have it..it just doesnt say it
[01:37] <crimsun> rcahilig: it's a specific configuration for your specific audio codec.
[01:38] <Bayden|newbee> hi
[01:38] <Optyx> Espionage724 do sudo lshw |grep video |less  or try sudo lshw > ~/lshw.txt (which will print the output of lshw to a text document in your home directory)
[01:38] <rcahilig> crimsun: ahhh, how do I acquire that? Do I need to download?
[01:38] <kuribohx> My comp is a dell latitude l400 with 128 mb ram 6gig hdd is my comp too slow or just unable to run ubuntu? The live cd gets to loading nautilus and then just hangs FOREVER
[01:39] <jsoftw> FOREVER! OH NOES!
[01:39] <followme`> does anyone know how to make a broadcom 43xx wireless card work on ubuntu?
[01:39] <kuribohx> lol
[01:39] <jsoftw> NAh sorry im being a dork again.
[01:39] <toplok> ubuntu 7.10 runs great here
[01:39] <jsoftw> kuribohx: that is probably quite a slow box
[01:39] <jsoftw> kuribohx: for ubuntu
[01:39] <xxx_> i dont have the shutdown button :)
[01:39] <jsoftw> kuribohx: gnome is quite heavy
[01:40] <ztomic> Anthology: perhaps being more specific would help
[01:40] <wers> I installed pidgin from a third party repo. now I want to use the one from the official repos again. I uninstalled pidgin and removed the third party repo. I sudo apt-get updated and removed the pidgin from the 3rd party repo from my /var/cache/apt/archives. whenever I reinstall pidgin, the pidgin from the 3rd party repo keeps on being installed
[01:40] <kuribohx> well it can run xp sp2 just fine....*shrugs*
[01:40] <wers> any idea??
[01:40] <jrib> wers: remove the third party repo
[01:40] <wers> done that
[01:40] <jrib> wers: oops, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <Espionage724> Optyx: i get a screen that says (END) but i will now try the 2nd thing now
[01:40] <wers> !pastebin
[01:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:41] <jrib> wers: and output of 'sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy pidgin'
[01:41] <xxx_> i dont have the shutdown button. any idea why? i'm the only user and can administer the system...
[01:41] <crimsun> rcahilig: one doesn't exist yet
[01:41] <kuribohx> is there anyway possible to install from boot up and not from live disk?
[01:41] <Espionage724> ya
[01:41] <Espionage724> do u mean something like a Text install?
[01:42] <jrib> kuribohx: "from boot up"?  what does that mean?
[01:42] <rcahilig> crimsun: so I can't use my audio for now?
[01:42] <jsoftw> kuribohx: you might want to try xfce4 or something.
[01:42] <jsoftw> Or fluxbox
[01:42] <Espionage724> where it does not boot into a live session?
[01:42] <rcahilig> crimsun: sometimes its working on a USB headset
[01:42] <SpeakerMania> I saved a video from YouTube, but instead of the actual FLV I got an FLV that streams the video form YouTube. How can I save it?
[01:42] <crimsun> rcahilig: right, you may be able to use your headset consistently if you configure it as the default device.
[01:43] <wers> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46296/ :D
[01:43] <kuribohx> jsoftw:well the 6.06 disk has a menu
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> SpeakerMania: i believe VLC plays flv's... at least it does for me...
[01:43] <kuribohx> aswell as a
[01:43] <jrib> SpeakerMania: keepvid.com but this isn't really related to ubuntu
[01:43] <kuribohx> text boot
[01:43] <daning>  i want to ask some questions about java. where should i go. thx.
[01:44] <LjL> daning: ##java, most likely
[01:44] <kuribohx> jsoftwcan I install directly from the text boot?
[01:44] <kex> SpeakerMania, try ffmpeg -i fileone.flv fileone.avi
[01:44] <rcahilig> crimsun: I can't use the speaker for now?
[01:44] <kex> SpeakerMania, replacing the file names obviously
[01:45] <jrib> daning: if it is about installing it on ubuntu, then here, otherwise, as LjL said
[01:45] <kex> SpeakerMania, second file name is the new .avi file
[01:45] <allenc> I keep geting sound errors... how do I reinstall sound drivers?
[01:45] <daning> LjL: work. thx
[01:45] <jrib> wers: you don't have the 3rd party one installed.  You have 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1
[01:45] <sb7970593> Is s there a way to play a radio that HAS an index.asp in the URL outside browseR?
[01:46] <ztomic> 128M does not meet the minimum requirements for Ubuntu. please install more RAM.
[01:46] <wers> but when i run pidgin, jrib, version 2.3.0 comes out
[01:46] <jsoftw> kuribohx: huh?
[01:46] <kuribohx> who?
[01:46] <wers> i'm using 2.3.0 now
[01:46] <SpeakerMania> Thanks all of you; kex, jrib, IndyGunFreak
[01:46] <jrib> wers: type 'which pidgin'
[01:46] <crimsun> rcahilig: not by default.  It hasn't been added yet.
[01:46] <wers> jrib, huh?
[01:46] <wers> where?
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> wers: i coudln't get 2.3.0 to compile correctly, kept gettiung an error.
[01:46] <wers> hehe
[01:46] <kuribohx> jsoft: can I install without running live disk?
[01:46] <kex> SpeakerMania, you are very welcome :D
[01:46] <jrib> wers: in a terminal
[01:46] <shah> does anyone know a software tool or plug-in which can give me the memory usage of my linux kernel module?
[01:47] <wers> IndyGunFreak, i installed it using a 3rd party repo :D it's just that, i cant make guifications and libnotify work with it :D
[01:47] <shah> I have plugged one network module similar to wireshark in the system, but I want measure the perfomance of that.
[01:47] <rcahilig> crimsun: I update my ALSA a while ago befor I install linux-backports-modules, is there something wrong with that?
[01:47] <wers> jrib, i never knew that there is such a command. haha
[01:47] <wers> /usr/local/bin/pidgin
[01:47] <Phantombun> Is it okay if I only give ubuntu about 12 or 13 gigs of hard drive on the partition?
[01:48] <rcahilig> crimsun: maybe I will try to reformat and install linux-backports-modules
[01:48] <jrib> wers: you have a version installed to /usr/local/, maybe you compiled it?
[01:48] <kuribohx> jsoft: can I install without running live disk?
[01:48] <crimsun> rcahilig: support's not even in the most recent unreleased source.
[01:49] <allenc> I am getting pop up sound card errors, how do I re-install the sound card drivers?
[01:49] <wers> jrib, i compiled it before installing from the 3rd party repo but the one i compiled didnt work
[01:49] <kex> hello again, i am following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 and i do not find anything at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ so i am wondering if where i can see if there are alsa drivers supported by sound card
[01:49] <wers> is there a way for me to remove this?
[01:49] <jrib> wers: you need to remove it.  How did you install it?  'make install'?
[01:49] <rcahilig> crimsun: This is a ECS Laptop
[01:49] <wers> yep, jrib
[01:49] <Phantombun> Actually, would I be okay to give Ubuntu just 10 gigs on its partition?
[01:49] <jrib> wers: try 'sudo make install' from the same place
[01:49] <wers> but the ver. 2.3.0 that worked is the one i installed using the repo
[01:49] <ztomic> shah: ls -l /boot/vm*
[01:49] <uKKeMan> cat im a kitty cat and i dance dance dance and i dance dance dance
[01:50] <jrib> wers: oops, I meant try 'sudo make uninstall' from the same place
[01:50] <wers> mmm... how do I do that?
[01:50] <wers> cd to the directory?
[01:50] <jrib> wers: yes
[01:50] <rcahilig> CRIMSUN: A cheap one
[01:50] <jrib> wers: the one where you ran 'make install'
[01:50] <xxx_> i dont have the "shutdown" button(missing). any idea why? i'm the only user and can administer the system...
[01:50] <wers> jrib, i deleted that folder already
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> loll
[01:51] <jrib> wers: download it again
[01:51] <kuribohx> can I install ubuntu without running live disk?
[01:51] <jrib> !alternate | kuribohx
[01:51] <ubotu> kuribohx: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[01:51] <ztomic> which is why 128M is not enough to run Ubuntu.
[01:51] <IdleOne> xxx_: ubuntu does not require you to shutdown. leave it running and watch the uptime grow
[01:51] <juano__> kuribohx: there is a alternate disk text mode
[01:51] <Flannel> IdleOne: It requires reboots for kernel patches.
[01:51] <jrib> kuribohx: it's on the download page for ubuntu
[01:51] <kex> xxx_ right click ur panel and do + add to panel
[01:51] <IdleOne> Flannel: true
[01:51] <kuribohx> ok
[01:51] <kuribohx> thanx
[01:51] <Phantombun> What's the MINIMUM amount required to run Ubuntu?
[01:52] <jrib> kuribohx: you probably want to try xubuntu though, it may run smoother
[01:52] <ztomic> 256
[01:52] <Phantombun> ooh, nvm
[01:52] <donkeyofdarkness> I've run it with 256
[01:52] <kuribohx> thx
[01:52] <Flannel> Phantombun: Ubuntu with gnome? or just Ubuntu at all? or what
[01:52] <juano__> 384 recomended
[01:52] <donkeyofdarkness> 128 I mean
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Phantombun: have you looked at xubuntu...?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Gnome will run w/ 128.. its not that bad.
[01:52] <Phantombun> i found more stuff to delete :D
[01:52] <xxx_> IdleOne,  i cant use all the time... this is the ofc computer :)
[01:52] <donkeyofdarkness> I've even run KDE with 128
[01:52] <Nuked> I get some weird results everytime I use dvd::rip.. after encoding a video (any format) I notice that the movie plays at normal speeds, then slows down. This repeats throughout the entire encoded video. Can anyone perhaps suggest a solution?
[01:52] <SpeakerMania> Kino takes forever to import an AVI; I've actually never got a video imported it takes so long. What can be wrong?
[01:52] <juano__> but that depends on desktop effects and such
[01:52] <ztomic> IndyGunFreak: gimme a break
[01:52] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah.. that was back on breezy
[01:52] <xxx_> kex, it have the quit button but no shutdown button on it...
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> ztomic: ?.. a break?... you lost me
[01:53] <Flannel> Absolute minimum is 32mb.  Since installer doesn't like anything lower than that.
[01:53] <wers> jrib, it worked!
[01:53] <kex> xxx_ aha, sorry cant help u there :(
[01:53] <shah> ztomic: it shows me kernel images...
[01:53] <wers> love you!
[01:53] <allenc> can any1 help with soundcard issues?
[01:53] <ztomic> 128 ram? breezy?
[01:53] <wers> thanks, jrib! :D
[01:53] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah
[01:53] <jrib> wers: no problem
[01:53] <jsoftw> Whats a good mp3 playing mechnisim
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> ztomic: no, I've put Ubuntu Feisty on a PC w/ 128mb.
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> jsoftw: i like audacious.
[01:53] <jsoftw> truers.
[01:53] <ztomic> IndyGunFreak: bet it ran GOOD!
[01:53]  * jsoftw trys that.
[01:53] <shah> ztomic: my question is how do I know memory usage at runtime of my module?
[01:53] <jrib> !player | jsoftw
[01:53] <ubotu> jsoftw: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> ztomic: it didnm't run bad... ran better than it did w/ Windows.
[01:54] <donkeyofdarkness> Ok.. Here's my problem. I'm too lazy to go downstairs and use that computer but XDMCP is disabled on it. Anyone know how I can do that from the command line? I have access via ssh.
[01:54] <jrib> jsoftw: try them all and use the one that works best for you
[01:54] <ztomic> shah: it's the size of the file.
[01:54] <donkeyofdarkness> I just dunno which file has the setting for it
[01:55] <shah> ztomic: that means memory consumption at runtime is size of file, is it so?
[01:55] <ztomic> IndyGunFreak: that surprises me... not
[01:55] <Nuked> anyone have any ideas?
[01:55] <ztomic> shah: yup
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ztomic: what surprises you?... you're gonnna have to put together a sentence so i can understand you..
[01:55] <rcahilig> crimsun: thanks man...
[01:55] <allenc> I keep getting soundcard errors, can any1 help?
[01:55] <vile_maxim> donkeyofdarkness: what about x forwarding
[01:55] <ztomic> IndyGunFreak: d00de. get a life
[01:56] <JJtech> !totem
[01:56] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[01:56] <JJtech> !codecs
[01:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> ztomic: i'm not the one who apparently doesn't have a clue about anything, but thanks for the suggestion.
[01:56] <ztomic> welcome
[01:56] <donkeyofdarkness> that could work too
[01:57] <vile_maxim> donkeyofdarkness: it seems the easiest
[01:58] <donkeyofdarkness> I could either do that or go downstairs and just check the box
[01:58] <sipsipclick> i'm running netbeans here on 7.10 and the swing interface is screwed up.  Is there a known issue / fix for this?
[01:58] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm lazy tho
[01:58] <vile_maxim> donkeyofdarkness: I figure go downstairs was off the table
[01:58] <whabo> Linux i love you.... so much with my ex windows experience .... will you marry me? I truely need you
[01:58] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah
[01:59] <Tailsfan> Hi, When is the Ubuntu JeOS coming out
[01:59] <Phantombun> defragging now
[01:59] <Phantombun> :D
[01:59] <slypilot> alright, time to feel like a noob and come running here for help.. i'm trying to change permissions on a drive, but even as root, the permissions wont stick.
[01:59] <jrib> sipsipclick: if it is an ubuntu package, you want to check bugs.ubuntu.com to see if it is known
[01:59] <anthony> wah up dude
[01:59] <jrib> slypilot: what filesystem?
[01:59] <Jay-Oh-En> airtonix
[01:59] <Jay-Oh-En> god he aint here
[01:59] <slypilot> ntfs
[01:59] <slypilot> (other ntfs drives are fine)
[01:59] <jrib> !ntfs > slypilot (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:00] <jrib> slypilot: you need to either use the gui tool or edit your fstab to mount the drive with the proper umask
[02:00] <Wazm> hi
[02:00] <Jay-Oh-En> anybody know of the ati tool to configure fglrx?
[02:00] <sith-lord`> yo
[02:00] <deniz__> Agent, im bak
[02:00] <deniz__> does any1 no of a e-messenger so i can use msn on linux?
[02:00] <slypilot> i already did nautilus as sudo, but it didn't stick, so i'm thinking it's that fstab thing.. which i don't know how to do.
[02:01] <xxx_> i dont have the "shutdown" button(missing). any idea why? i'm the only user and can administer the system...is my system broke?
[02:01] <jrib> slypilot: did you get a message from ubotu?
[02:01] <slypilot> yes, clicking the link now.
[02:01] <jrib> xxx_: not sure, but what's the output of 'groups' in a terminal?
[02:01] <jrib> !who | slypilot
[02:01] <ubotu> slypilot: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:01] <Wazm> private
[02:02] <xxx_> jrib, even when i login as root the shutdown button is missing...
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> !tab
[02:02] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[02:02] <slypilot> jrib: sorry, usually do.
[02:02] <ztomic> private Idaho
[02:02] <kex> hello, i have alsa problems and i am trying to solve them with this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 but i am stuck, does anybody want to help me?
[02:02] <kex> please
[02:02] <DaveQB> anyone used mpeg2video codec in mencoder in Gutsy ?
[02:02] <slypilot> jrib: (just am tired so not thinking fully)
[02:02] <Tailsfan> !JeOS
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jeos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> kex: do you know what sound device youu have?
[02:03] <ztomic> DaveQB: whatcha been readin'?
[02:03] <DaveQB> ztomic  sorry ?
[02:03] <sipsipclick> looks like i need to file a bug report.  Putting "export AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit" allows beryl and java swing apps to work correctly.  however this doesn't work on the 64bit systems (SIGSEV crash)
[02:03] <kex> IndyGunFreak, i am not sure
[02:03] <ztomic> DaveQB: you asked about mpeg2video.
[02:04] <vile_maxim> anyone know how to get crystalspace working
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> kex: open a terminal, and type lspci and then hit enter, its gonna spit out junk about your PC's devices, look and see how it identifies your audio device.
[02:04] <DaveQB> ztomic  yeah, have you had it working when using mencoder ?
[02:04] <ztomic> DaveQB: what are you trying to do?
[02:04] <DaveQB> ztomic m basicly, I have narrowed down my devede problem to mencoder borking at mpeg2video, it can not find it
[02:05] <kex> IndyGunFreak, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:05] <DaveQB> ztomic  so mencoder -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video  .... fails
[02:05] <jrib> xxx_: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' as that seems to have fixed it for some users
[02:05] <allenc> I am getting soundcard errors.  How do I reinstall the soundcard drivers?
[02:05] <xxx_> jrib, thanks,,, gonna try that....
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> kex: ok... you need to download an updated alsa-driver, type this w/o quotes, and i'll talk you through it.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[02:06] <Phantombun> is it highly recommended that I defrag before I install ubuntu?
[02:06] <DaveQB> allenc you cant if they are built into the kernel
[02:06] <DaveQB> allenc  might be a module and you can re-compile that, but why ?
[02:06] <vile_maxim> Phantombun: I never read that, but it seems like a good idea
[02:06] <Phantombun> Okay
[02:07] <vile_maxim> Phantombun: it you are going to resize the drive
[02:07] <vile_maxim> Phantombun: it won't hurt
[02:07] <Phantombun> I just hope this doesn't take all night
[02:07] <bonsaiMonkey> hi
[02:07] <Phantombun> it's only at 3% now
[02:08] <bonsaiMonkey> i want to connect to irc.serenia.net but i can't seem to get it work
[02:08] <bakey> ubuntu server windows client rsync question...who can help?
[02:08] <ztomic> DaveQB: can you #flood the command line?
[02:08] <FoudlaBD> !list
[02:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:08] <Jay-Oh-En> Phantombun: are you going to install on the whole driver or are you going to partion it off
[02:09] <DaveQB> ztomic  ummm, not easily, using VNC to home and its there, hmmmm ok yes, I'll cat it to a file.....
[02:09] <allenc> daveQB: i keep getting soundcard errors.
[02:09] <DaveQB> allenc  what type ?
[02:09] <Phantombun> partition
[02:09] <DaveQB> allenc  card supported by the Linux kernel ?
[02:09] <Phantombun> i'm giving 15 gigs to linux
[02:09] <slypilot> Alright, anyone care to help me with a drive permission problem? even with the drive unmounted, and as root, the permission settings wont stick.
[02:10] <allenc> DaveQB: just says there was a problem with soundcard, doesn't list specifics... I don't know if it supported or not.
[02:10] <jrib> slypilot: did you do what I said?
[02:10] <slypilot> the website ubotu linked to?
[02:10] <jrib> slypilot: yes
[02:11] <slypilot> jrib: or the fstab stuff?
[02:11] <jrib> slypilot: it's the same, the website talks about the fstab stuff
[02:11] <allenc> daveqb: and when I go into sound preferences the tab locks up if I press test on some of the entries.
[02:11] <Jay-Oh-En> Phantombun: oh i never needed to defrag because whatever your going to partion is going to get deleted and turned into a new filesystem so basically i think you should install then defrag to get everything in order
[02:11] <DaveQB> hmm allenc hard to trouble shoot like that, tried running, say mplayer, from the commandline with a sound file as argument, so if that spits more info back at you
[02:11] <bakey> anyone got ideas? cygwin + rsync?
[02:12] <Phantombun> well, i was told by Pelu to defrag before installing linux
[02:12] <Phantombun> so, that's what I'm gonna do
[02:12] <DaveQB> allenc  try alsaconf too
[02:13] <slypilot> jrib: under fstab, the drive has the same values as the other drives which i can edit permissions on..
[02:13] <ztomic> shoot! DaveQB: where'd you get that? Maybe I got myself into a big riggermoro (Texas talk)!
[02:13] <jrib> slypilot: pastebin it
[02:13] <slypilot> jrib: pastebin?
[02:13] <jrib> !paste | slypilot
[02:13] <ubotu> slypilot: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <ztomic> DaveQB: are you gonna burn this?
[02:13] <allenc> daveqb: I am not sure i have mplayer is that the totem movie player?
[02:13] <DaveQB> ztomic  yes
[02:13] <jerdude98> Hello. I am having issues installing Adobe Flash Player 9 on terminal. It said that I need to ask an administrator to remove xpdi.dat file
[02:13] <ztomic> DaveQB: why avi?
[02:13] <SpeakerMania> How do I strip the audio from an AVI movie?
[02:14] <DaveQB> ztomic  shoot ?
[02:14] <b14ck> what is the apt-get command i need so that i can compile stuff with gcc?
[02:14] <jrib> jerdude98: why are you not letting firefox install it for you?
[02:14] <jrib> !compile > b14ck (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:14] <ztomic> DaveQB: you're outputting to avi.
[02:14] <bakey> b14ck: aptitude install build-essential
[02:14] <jerdude98> I have tried to let it install but Adobe doesn't do it. It asks me to do terminal command prompt to install it
[02:15] <slypilot> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46298/
[02:15] <jrib> jerdude98: what version of ubuntu?
[02:15] <jerdude98> 7.10
[02:15] <ztomic> DaveQB: hang on
[02:15] <jerdude98> Just got it two days ago
[02:15] <kalila> how would you tell the IP of the ypserver of the current network?
[02:15] <jsoftw> Im getting rather weird stuff where /smbmountpoint is all fruity and laggy, and its not even mounted according to df -h
[02:15] <jashim>  :'(
[02:15] <jsoftw> and mount
[02:15] <jrib> slypilot: looks fine.  What drive and what permissions are you trying to set?
[02:15] <SpeakerMania> How do I strip the audio from an AVI movie?
[02:16] <jashim>  :'(
[02:16] <jerdude98> I did install other softwares such as java just fine
[02:16] <jerdude98> but adobe asked me to do terminal installation and it didn't work out
[02:16] <slypilot> jrib: trying to give my user ownership of hdb1
[02:16] <jrib> !who | jerdude98
[02:16] <ubotu> jerdude98: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:16] <jrib> slypilot: so do that in fstab with uid=
[02:16] <jashim>  :p
[02:17] <DaveQB> ztomic  no
[02:17] <jashim> hi
[02:17] <jashim> hi
[02:17] <jashim>  :p
[02:17] <jrib> jerdude98: what happens when you do 'sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree' in a terminal?
[02:17] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania I have a script fort hat, just finidng it...
[02:17] <usser> slypilot, alternatively this can be done by doing sudo chown -R username:groupname on the mount point when the drive is mounted
[02:17] <ztomic> DaveQB: are you trying to compress?
[02:17] <jashim> no
[02:17] <kalila> ls
[02:17] <jashim> mo
[02:17] <jrib> usser: are you sure?
[02:17] <progvb> hello guys
[02:17] <jashim> yes no
[02:17] <usser> jrib, yes im pretty sure it works
[02:17] <jashim> ok
[02:18] <jashim> no
[02:18] <jashim> yes
[02:18] <jrib> usser: it will not persist after it is unmounted
[02:18] <jashim> hmmmmmmm
[02:18] <b14ck> I'm trying to do: aptitude install build-essential... but it is telling me to insert the cd. hwo can i force it to install from the web?
[02:18] <joycetick> whats the command to install a deb package that yourve downloaded? sudo dpkg...?
[02:18] <progvb> i wanna configure ubuntu's effects on ATI
[02:18] <jashim> I'm trying to do: aptitude install build-essential... but it is telling me to insert the cd. hwo can i force it to install from the web?
[02:18] <jashim> 	i wanna configure ubuntu's effects on ATI
[02:18] <usser> jrib, hm, i remember thats how i did it on suse
[02:18] <usser> jrib, gotta check again
[02:18] <jrib> jashim: disable the cd-rom repository
[02:18] <jrib> usser: for ntfs?
[02:18] <jashim> jrib, hm, i remember thats how i did it on suse
[02:18] <DaveQB> ztomic  I guess so, I copied it from the devede verbose output
[02:18] <jashim> usser: for ntfs?
[02:18] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, sounds good
[02:18] <jerdude98> jrib - it seemed like it installed something
[02:19] <jrib> jashim: stop
[02:19] <usser> jrib, jashim oh my bad didnt realize u wew talking about ntfs
[02:19] <jashim> OK MADAM
[02:19] <jerdude98> Thanks jrib
[02:19] <DaveQB> ztomic  thought I'd use the devede GUI to make a DVD iso out of a video file.  Done it before, but a while ago, seems Gutsy's mencoder is missing mpeg2video codec,
[02:19] <DaveQB> where do I get it
[02:19] <ztomic> DaveQB: gotta be an easier way. problem is I do most work in windows. And I don't use devede. Lemme look at it a while.
[02:19] <jrib> !guidelines > jashim (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:19] <deniz__> yo i just bought a usb flash drive today and it wrote now it only reads
[02:19] <joycetick> whats the terminal command to install deb packages?
[02:19] <jashim> sorry madam
[02:19] <BlackDiamonds> if I pop a desktop cd into my computer, how do I get it to mount and read/write NTFS partitions ?
[02:20] <jashim> i just need friend to talk
[02:20] <slypilot> jrib: sorry, i'm a bit lost how i would change the ownership using uid
[02:20] <jashim> so where i get friends?
[02:20] <jrib> usser: yeah, your way would work for ext3 and similar
[02:20] <LjL> joycetick: dpkg, but please try to use packages from the official repositories whenever you can
[02:20] <jrib> slypilot: k, do 'id' to figure out you users uid
[02:21] <BlackDiamonds> if I pop a desktop cd into my computer, how do I get it to mount and read/write NTFS partitions ?
[02:21] <joycetick> LjL isnt there some -? thing after it?
[02:21] <LjL> joycetick: sudo dpkg -i <packagename> to install. "man dpkg" also helps ;) or use
[02:21] <LjL> !gdebi > joycetick    (joycetick, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:21] <slypilot> jrib: done, and i put that in where?
[02:21] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, any luck?
[02:21] <allenc> when I go into sound preferences it locks up, how do I fix my sound card / drivers?
[02:21] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > blackdiamonds (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:22] <jrib> slypilot: now that you have the uid, just add ",uid=THE_NUMBER_YOU_GOT_HERE" to your fstab line, right next to "gid=46"
[02:22] <allenc> DaveQB: any ideas for me?
[02:22] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  man I had this nice bash script I created that gave a menu to choose what you wanted to do, encode to X format etc, plus it had the dump to wav or mp3 option.  I have lost it
[02:23] <DaveQB> ARRGGGGG!!!!!!
[02:23] <jrib> slypilot: change the final "1" for your ntfs lines to "0" by the way
[02:23] <DaveQB> i have been working on that over the years, I cant believe this !!
[02:23] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, did you write it? If not, do you remember where you got it?
[02:23] <joycetick> LjL thanks
[02:23] <DaveQB> i wrote it
[02:23] <manero> um good morning to all
[02:23] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, hmm.
[02:23] <deniz__> manero, its night here
[02:24] <xtknight> is it just me or are firefox errors a lot more common these days?  (XUL errors when adding bookmarks, weird yellow windows popping up)
[02:24] <manero> oh sorry
[02:24] <deniz__> manero, lol
[02:24] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania i had copies everywhere, might be on one my laptop, but its off atm and at home
[02:24] <xtknight> it could have been because i tried gran paradiso on same profile though :)
[02:24] <WorkingOnWise> is there an app that will let me see what bandwidth other pcs on the network are using?
[02:24] <DaveQB> xtknight  hmm I nevr had any issues with Firefox, I use Kubuntu though
[02:24] <joycetick> LjL uh, how can i get out of that man dpkg thing? :$
[02:24] <manero> is it ok to ask a question, first time installing ubuntu.
[02:24] <LjL> joycetick: hit Q
[02:24] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, well I am a tad busy. Would you mind e-mailing me when you get it?
[02:24] <deniz__> manero, dont ask to ask...just ask
[02:25] <slypilot> jrib: You are not privileged to mount the volume 'Chrono'.
[02:25] <jrib> slypilot: you need sudo, or add the "users" option to your fstab
[02:25] <quinton> need help installing themes
[02:25] <joycetick> LjL oh thanks, i feel so n00bish :P
[02:25] <manero> when i was installing my ubuntu there was an error at the security packages. is it serious?
[02:25] <deniz__> does any1 no y my flashdrive doesnt write anymore?
[02:26] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania
[02:26] <DaveQB> sure
[02:26] <ztomic> DaveQB: post the error again?
[02:26] <ztomic> .
[02:26] <quinton> Can anyone guide me through installing the darker theme from gnome look
[02:26] <allenc> my sound preferences locks up when I click test, is there any way to fix this or re-install sound drivers?
[02:26] <LjL> joycetick: well, you've learned about man now. it's an extremely useful tool.
[02:27] <DaveQB> ztomic  mencoder -oac lavc -ovc lavc -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd:tsaf -endpos 60.0 -ofps 25 -vf harddup -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:trell:mbd=2:vstrict=0:vrc_maxrate=8500:vrc_buf_size=1835:vbitrate=9000:keyint=15:acodec=mp2:abitrate=224:aspect=16/9 -o /80gig/tmp/movietemp_01_01.mpg /80gig/Wk8-Lions003.dvdone.avi
[02:27] <DaveQB> oops
[02:27] <DaveQB> ztomic  " Could not open codec."
[02:27] <toozler> i'm running on two monitors (1440x900 and a 1280x1024), but gnome-screenshot or other tools will only take a screennshot of the first monitor. how do i fix this? anyone?
[02:28] <joycetick> LjL yeah.. ive also learnt never to buy netgear wireless cards, their a bitch to setup :P
[02:28] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  grab my email addy off my blog www.dward.us
[02:28] <noi> hi
[02:28] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, I sent you my e-mail via a private dialog
[02:29] <slypilot> jrib: thanks! i managed to give myself write access now, lol
[02:29] <fitztrev> toozler: I just noticed i have the same problem :(
[02:29] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  ooh, not sure how to access that herein BitchX
[02:29] <jrib> slypilot: erm, you shouldn't be able to write unless you use ntfs-3g
[02:29] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania do you ?
[02:29] <toozler> fitztrev you get a big wide transparent image with your main monitor on the corner?
[02:30] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB,are you in xchat?
[02:30] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  no BitchX
[02:30] <slypilot> jrib: i've never had to install anything extra with gutsy (unless it didn it automatically) and have been able to write to my nfts drives just fine...
[02:30] <SpeakerMania> oh
[02:30] <SpeakerMania> lol
[02:30] <SpeakerMania> I dunno.
[02:30] <DaveQB> :-)
[02:30] <jrib> slypilot: k, I believe you, good to know
[02:30] <Erick> hola a todos
[02:30] <toozler> slypilot same here.
[02:30] <Lounge> dpkg has been having error 139s all over the place since a few days ago
[02:30] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  just get my addy off my blog and email, thanks
[02:31] <mysqlhelp> can someone please help me with removing a grant statement i did in mysql that messed me up.. i did:  "GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@"192.168.1.%" IDENTIFIED BY "mythtv"; I believe I am looking for a revoke command but dont want to do anything other than undo this command
[02:31] <allenc> Please, I need help, why does ubuntu lock up when I click test in sound preferences?  Better yet, how do I fix that.
[02:31] <Lounge> seems that everytime i dl a package, dpkg can't configure them
[02:31] <Erick> hi all,i need help
[02:31] <slypilot> allenc: what kind of soundcard? if it's an audigy 2 i possible could help you
[02:31] <Lounge> but they do install and wrok
[02:31] <slypilot> allenc: possibly*
[02:31] <Lounge> *work
[02:31] <manero> is there any antivirus for ubuntu?
[02:32] <jrib> manero: no need
[02:32] <DaveQB> manero  clamAV
[02:32] <jrib> !virus | manero
[02:32] <ubotu> manero: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:32] <manero> jrib, oh ic
[02:32] <Lounge> my dpkg is somehow not fully working
[02:33] <manero> am just updating now.
[02:33] <allenc> skypilot: 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller onboard Asus MB controller
[02:33] <allenc> skypilot: intel
[02:33] <ztomic> DaveQB: it's something to do with codecs... hehe.
[02:33] <quinton> how would i install themes ?
[02:33] <quinton> need guidance installing themes please.
[02:33] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania here it is
[02:33] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  http://forum.videohelp.com/topic298760.html#1504641
[02:33] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania lucky I posted it once, I cant believe will all my shell accounts I didnt have a copy around. DAMN!!
[02:33] <toozler> quinton, try drag'n'drop file on themes manager
[02:34] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, oh thanks so much! I was just e-mailing you. :) Your blog looks very helpful, I'll have to bookmark it.
[02:34] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  that would be an older version I might of made some chances since then, but appears to be all lost :-(
[02:34] <quinton> toozler, I dont have theme manager
[02:34] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  thanks
[02:34] <DaveQB> ztomic  yes your right :)
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> quinton: No theme manager? What os are you running
[02:34] <DaveQB> ztomic  i just dont have mpeg2video codec for mencoder to access.  Not sure what package provides it.  maybe apt-file can help be search the reps for it
[02:35] <quinton> jack_sparrow, linux ubuntu
[02:35] <abacka> hi where to get u7fixit.tar for ubuntu 7.04 to install in usb flash?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> quinton: system pref theme... drag and drop
[02:35] <DG19075> quinton, it comes up when you click System, the Preferences, then Appearance
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[02:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:36] <Lounge> is there anyway to restore apt, synaptic and dpkg?
[02:36] <quinton> thanks =D
[02:36] <toozler> quinton,  or type "gnome-appearance-properties" on terminal
[02:36] <DaveQB> Lounge  apt-get install --reinstall apt ?
[02:36] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  work for you ?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: what wee doing that caused them to crash.
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> were
[02:37] <Lounge> i wanna know why i keep getting dpkg 139 erros on must packages
[02:37] <SpeakerMania> DaveQB, I'm trying to find it on my Hard drive, I have no idea where I save dit. lol I'll save it again.
[02:37] <Lounge> mostly
[02:37] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  firefox ? Desktop
[02:37] <allenc> can any1 help with why my sound is locking up & not working please?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: have you changes sources?  added things ffrom outside repos etc
[02:37] <DaveQB> SpeakerMania  its  shell script, need to run from cammand line
[02:37] <DG19075> SpoeakerMania, best is to save to the Desktop.
[02:37] <Lounge> Jack_Sparrow: i have no idea as to why most packages our being only half configured
[02:37] <DaveQB> Lounge out of space ?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: You can post your sources.list to the pastebin.. then a link back in here
[02:38] <DaveQB> allenc  did you run alsaconf to reconfigure sound card ?
[02:38] <Lounge> quaal: no got plenty of free space
[02:38] <DaveQB> allenc  sounds liek cardm ight not be supported, buy a new card for $10 !!
[02:38] <allenc> daveQB: no, how do I do that?
[02:38] <DaveQB> allenc  run it from a virtual terminal
[02:38] <allenc> daveQB: it was working for several weeks
[02:38] <DaveQB> allenc  know how to do that ?
[02:38] <DaveQB> allenc  oh ?
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: Gotta ask a dumb question..  You didnt make the mistake of trying automatix or envy to install anything by chance
[02:38] <DaveQB> allenc  thats odd
[02:39] <paxsboy> What the bloody hell?
[02:39] <Lounge> Jack_Sparrow: no didn't do that
[02:39] <allenc> DaveQB: sudo alsaconf says command not found
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: ok.. you can post your sources or rebuild them with easy source
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[02:39] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: i've got ownership for myself, but i still can't change settings for "others"
[02:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:40] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: (i'm slypilot)
[02:40] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: what exactly do you want to change it to?
[02:40] <Lounge> Jack_Sparrow: where's the source list located? sry for the noob question
[02:40] <ztomic> DaveQB: it looks like you need medibuntu.org.
[02:40] <deniz__> feisty detects my printer and the ubuntu wiki says that it should work with pixma mp150 driver but i dont no how to obtain it
[02:40] <deniz__> help plz
[02:40] <DaveQB> hmmmm i dont have it either any more, gmmmm
[02:40] <nantax> which is better: icewm or enlightenment?
[02:40] <DaveQB> ztomic  hmm I have added a medibuntu rep
[02:41] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: read only (samba sharing)
[02:41] <DaveQB> ztomic  got many a codec from there
[02:41] <DaveQB> ztomic  qwhich package do you think
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:41] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: look at the umask in your fstab-
[02:41] <ztomic> DaveQB: did you download the extra codecs?
[02:41] <DaveQB> ztomic  I thought so, I need to check now though
[02:41] <ztomic> DaveQB: you may also need restricted.
[02:41] <Jay-Oh-En> does anybody know how to set the agp speed to X8 for my fglrx drivers
[02:42] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: umask=007
[02:42] <DaveQB> ztomic  got it ! :)
[02:42] <Lounge> source shows medibuntu repos
[02:42] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: you understand what that does?
[02:42] <Wazm> Hi
[02:42] <DaveQB> ztomic  which package did you find provide it ? apt-file didnt find it
[02:42] <Lounge> included
[02:42] <manero> is there any serious problem encountered by ubuntu?
[02:42] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: that's full read and write access right?
[02:42] <ztomic> DaveQB: I dunno. I gotta go though. sorry i couldn't help
[02:42] <jrib> manero: do you have a specific question?
[02:42] <allenc> DaveQB: How do I run that, it says command not found.
[02:42] <DaveQB> ztomic  thanks
[02:42] <Wazm> ok
[02:43] <DaveQB> allenc  alsaconf ? yeah it seems to be gone now a days, I used to use it heaps over the years
[02:43] <deniz__> im sure sum1 here configured a printer to work and it dint work with the recommended thing the os gives u, whomever experienced this plz tell me briefly wat u did
[02:43] <manero> jrib, in terms of firewall and security
[02:43] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: 0 is for your user 0 is for the group and 7 is for others.  Think of the mask as subtracting from 777
[02:43] <DaveQB> allenc  there must be something comparable to it now a days
[02:43] <corruptionoflulz> i think manero wants to know about security vulnerabilities and such
[02:43] <DaveQB> allenc  google alsaconf ubuntu
[02:43] <manero> corruptionoflulz, yeap
[02:43] <Lounge> Jack_Sparrow: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner is in my list, is that bad?
[02:44] <corruptionoflulz> manero: there really aren't many from my understanding, unless you leave holes open yourself of course.
[02:44] <jrib> manero: you are still not being specific.  Look through bugs.ubuntu.com and subscribe to the -security mailing list at lists.ubuntu.com I suppose
[02:44] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: alright, so what should the umask be at then...?
[02:44] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: you tell me :)
[02:44] <manero> corruptionoflulz, jrib ok thanks
[02:45] <Jay-Oh-En> !ati
[02:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:45] <toozler> anyone else running dualscreens on nvidia cards havin screenshot issues? (only 1 screen is printed, and everyrhing else is transparent)
[02:45] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: i would, if i could figure out how to figure it out xD
[02:45] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: you want it to be 5 (read and execute).  7 - x = 5, solve for x.  You want umask 00x
[02:47] <deniz__> y wont my usb flash drive write files?!
[02:47] <adorablepuppy> I'm logged onto a VPN trying to get some work done on a remote windows 2003 server. When trying to transfer files from the server to my computer, I realized that my computer was not being seen on the network and none of my shares could be accessed. But the shares can be accessed just fine on my home network. What's wrong?
[02:47] <LiMaO> deniz__: is it mounted read/write?
[02:47] <Lorek> does anyone know how to change file associations in X11?
[02:47] <LiMaO> Lorek: right click the file, go to Properties > Open With
[02:48] <Lorek> I mean as a default association
[02:48] <deniz__> LiMaO, on the laptop, first time i used it (i boughgt it today), it wrote, then second time, it only read and on this desktop pc it also only reads
[02:48] <Lorek> so you don't have to click the open with you just double click
[02:48] <adorablepuppy> Hit properties.
[02:48] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: so umask=002.. or 005, you kind of lost me, although i do appreciate that you are explaining it.
[02:48] <adorablepuppy> It's in there
[02:48] <Lorek> ahh ok
[02:48] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: umask=002
[02:48] <abacka> can i install ubuntu to usb flash memorry?
[02:48] <Lorek> i see it now
[02:48] <LiMaO> Lorek: right click the file, go to Properties > Open with.. there you can choose an application for it to open with by default
[02:49] <Lorek> got it thx LiMaO
[02:49] <LiMaO> Lorek: you're welcome
[02:49] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: since 777 - 002 = 775 and that is what you want.  Remember the mask "takes away" permissions
[02:49] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: ok good, i thought right then
[02:49] <deniz__> LiMaO, i fixed problem
[02:49] <LiMaO> deniz__: have you tried formatting the flash disk?
[02:49] <LiMaO> deniz__: how did you do it?
[02:50] <adorablepuppy> Anybody got an idea to why i don't see my smb shares on VPN, but I see them on my local network?
[02:50] <deniz__> LiMaO, its cuz, i accidently switched it to readonly mode, i just bought it today afterr all and am not use to this new feature and the switch gets moved easily
[02:50] <deniz__> LiMaO, stupid reason rely
[02:50] <LiMaO> deniz__: oh ok =)
[02:51] <magic_ninja> any steam players in here
[02:51] <deniz__> LiMaO, :)
[02:51] <deniz__> y doesnt beryl do anything?
[02:52] <deniz__> i did sudo apt-get install beryl
[02:52] <deniz__> and now, no effects
[02:52] <deniz__> im using feisty
[02:52] <LiMaO> deniz__: you have to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:52] <LiMaO> deniz__: then go to System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[02:52] <deniz__> LiMaO, how do i do that?
[02:52] <|TroubleMaker|> deniz__, you have to start beryl by typing beryl at the command line or in a run dialog
[02:52] <LiMaO> deniz__: er.. apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:52] <ddd__> hello all
[02:53] <scottpc> You guys aren't going to believe this, and I'm not even sure what I might have done to fix this.  I was having a problem yesterday where OpenOffice wouldn't print to my Brother Laser Fax4100, but it would print to everything else.  I was printing to PDF, then to the printer - but all the sudden when I checked for updates using Syn Pkg Mgr, the problem is miraculously fixed!!!
[02:53] <LiMaO> deniz__: or use synaptic package manager to search for new stuff to be installed
[02:53] <deniz__> ok so aptget thing then the type beryl then just enable effects?
[02:53] <LiMaO> deniz__: nope you did not understand it
[02:53] <scottpc> I've run for three weeks straight without going back to my windows hdd
[02:53] <scottpc> lol
[02:54] <deniz__> LiMaO, sry :(
[02:54] <ddd__> i need help please. has somebody got a ~100MB - 200MB hard disk which is partitioned with more than 1 partition?
[02:54] <LiMaO> deniz__: to get effects you have to use compiz. and to set up effects you have to use the compiz configuration applications. compiz is already installed by default. to install the configuration application you have to install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'
[02:54] <deniz__> ya but i dont have gutsy
[02:54] <LiMaO> deniz__: what do you run?
[02:54] <deniz__> ubuntu 7.04
[02:54] <CubeXombi> is someone here familiar with setting up an IR remote w/ XMMS, or in particular know the easiest way to get the IR code length from a remote?
[02:54] <LiMaO> deniz__: forget beryl, you need compiz
[02:55] <LiMaO> deniz__: do you know how to use synaptic package manager?
[02:55] <deniz__> so i should uninstall beryl?
[02:55] <LiMaO> deniz__: install compiz, and install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:55] <deniz__> synaptic ya
[02:55] <adorablepuppy> deniz__: My beryl works great.
[02:55] <LiMaO> deniz__: leave beryl there. it won't hurt
[02:55] <CubeXombi> I've tried "cat /dev/ttyS1", but just get dummy characters and cat tell when the code repeats.
[02:56] <thinh> what kind of permission do i need on the host machine when i use scp, i can create a folder on the host machine using ssh but when i try to copy a file into that folder i get a permission issue anyone?
[02:56] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: thanks a lot! i award you an internet! (i can now share the drive over samba like i spent the last few hours trying to figure out
[02:56] <zcat[1]> compiz rocks. It's much more stable now than beryl was for me..
[02:56] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: great
[02:56] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: (even though last install i had, i didn't have to go through this)
[02:56] <zcat[1]> .. and I have it running on an MX440 chipset :)
[02:57] <worthawholebean> my ubuntu is going insane
[02:57] <worthawholebean> i swear
[02:57] <worthawholebean> it randomly displays
[02:57] <worthawholebean> random stuff
[02:57] <LiMaO> lol
[02:57] <worthawholebean> lines on a black background, etc
[02:57] <worthawholebean> in the top left corner
[02:57] <jrib> !enter | worthawholebean
[02:57] <ubotu> worthawholebean: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:57] <corruptionoflulz> quick question, any of you guys ever try to use alltray with compiz?
[02:58] <zcat[1]> I'm still not happy with gutsy's printer dialog and mixer settings. This stuff was better in feisty..
[02:58] <worthawholebean> ah sorry, i do that
[02:58] <scottpc> worth - I just switched a video card the other day - was very hot
[02:58] <deniz__> LiMaO, i install compiz-gnome?
[02:58] <scottpc> not ubuntu's fault though
[02:58] <LiMaO> deniz__: yeah, probably
[02:58]  * LiMaO is gonna install his printer now in gutsy.
[02:59] <zcat[1]> compiz-gnome should already be installed if you use gutsy, right?
[02:59] <Lorek> worthawholebean: what kind of video card are you running atm?
[02:59] <corruptionoflulz> Since this IS an IRC channel, i probably should also mention xchat-gnome, it's a bit slimmer than xchat, i like it.
[02:59]  * LiMaO says: turned it on. it's installed now =D
[02:59] <deniz__> LiMaO,  the box next to it is green that means i have it?
[02:59] <LiMaO> deniz__: yes
[02:59] <dodox20> hi guys
[02:59] <deniz__> LiMaO, gnome compiz manager is not green tho
[02:59] <lemsx1> !upgrade
[02:59] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:59] <Lounge> any1 ever seen an error like this before?....
[03:00] <Lounge> (update-desktop-database:10993): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_get_string_list: assertion `group_name != NULL' failed Segmentation fault (core dumped) dpkg
[03:00] <LiMaO> deniz__: install it. and also install COMPIZCONFIG-SETTINGS-MANAGER
[03:00] <dodox20> a questin 4 you... how to change the icones on my gibbons'
[03:00] <RancidLM> hey all is there a toggle button applet for gnome? like a launcher but with 2 states? i want to make a button for mount and un-mounting as well as a few other scripts
[03:00] <Lorek> worthawholebean: what video card are you using right now with what driver?
[03:00] <RancidLM> ?
[03:00] <zcat[1]> compizconfig-settings-manager is the only thing you need to add afaik.
[03:00] <zcat[1]> everything else should be there already (or it's not something you need)
[03:01] <dodox20> zcat... it's for me?
[03:01] <Lorek> oh btw, are there any experts on ALSA and other problems related to sound configuration, I'm running into a annoying problem but my sound works.
[03:01] <Resofje> DCC SEND lolololololololololololololololololol
[03:01] <corruptionoflulz> Lorek: only thing i could help you is if you had an audigy 2
[03:01] <zcat[1]> dodox20: no, talking about compiz..
[03:02] <dodox20> sorry...lol
[03:02] <Lorek> ahh i'm running off a Creative SB Live 24-bit :(
[03:02] <deniz__> LiMaO, im obtaining all things with compiz in the name xept compiz kde so that should mean ill have wat i need...
[03:03] <corruptionoflulz> Lorek: you could try just stating your problem anyways, someone might be know something
[03:03] <adelie> is there a way to throw stdout and see it in terminal at the same time?
[03:03] <Lorek> ok, you know how when you pipe a sound file into a sound editor and up the volume really high how it sounds scratchy?
[03:04] <worthawholebean> Lorek: sorry, I was afk. I'm using an ATI X1600 with the fglrx driver
[03:04] <Scunizi> Lorek, yes.. continue
[03:04] <Lorek> all my sound sounds like that regardless of volume
[03:04] <LiMaO> deniz__: oh man. please try and read it carefully. all you need now is compizconfig-settings-manager. after it's installed, click on System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings and concentrate on the new window that will open!
[03:04] <adelie> ...or cat a file as it changes to monitor real time log changes / appends?
[03:05] <zcat[1]> adelie: command | tee foo.log  -- sends output to foo.log and terminal ....   tail -f foo.log follows foo.log as it grows.
[03:06] <zcat[1]> adelie: you need one or the other, probably not both at the same time :)
[03:06] <adelie> zcat you are awsome. thank you! each will be useful differently. thanks
[03:07] <Lorek> i guess for whatever reason my sound isn't normalizing volume correctly but its always scratchy which is really annoying
[03:07] <zcat[1]> less foo.log and then press F (or ctrl-F, I forget..) will do a similar thing to tail -f
[03:08] <zcat[1]> so many answers to one question :)
[03:08] <adelie> zcat[1] does tee work with interactive scripts?
[03:08] <zcat[1]> adelie: sometimes.. not always
[03:08] <Lorek> worthawholebean: you might check this out and see if it helps you. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ati-driver-problems-wx1600-pro-pcie-490221/
[03:08] <zcat[1]> adelie: some programs seem to get messed up by it, others are fine.
[03:09] <deniz__> LiMaO, cant i do sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager?
[03:09] <Lorek> the first couple posts aren't related but towards the bottom they discuss artifacting caused by the video driver and possible workarounds
[03:09] <LiMaO> deniz__: oh man, i really thought you had already installed it using synaptic.......
[03:09] <LiMaO> deniz__: install it anyway you want, just install it =P
[03:09] <LiMaO> deniz__: and yes, you can use that command
[03:10] <zcat[1]> deniz__: or aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager  -- or install it in synaptic.
[03:10] <deniz__> LiMaO, k, just so u no i prefer terminal ;)
[03:10] <foso> help! im an idiot and followed these directions:http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/11/compiz-fusion-with-xgl-in-gutsy.html
[03:10] <foso> compiz isnt working and graphics are terrible
[03:11] <zcat[1]> foso: Yes. apt-get install xserver-xorg and it will return to using xorg instead of Xgl. That should fix the problem
[03:12] <LiMaO> i wonder why people follow complex directions while what they want can be done with an ordinary terminal command
[03:12] <worthawholebean> LiMaO
[03:12] <worthawholebean> whoops
[03:12] <LiMaO> worthawholebean: yes?
[03:12] <zcat[1]> LiMaO: terminal command? wtf? NOTHING li ubuntu needs a terminal command. Synaptic. Checkboxes.
[03:12] <Lorek> ok scratch my sound problem, i got it handled
[03:12] <worthawholebean> LiMa0: People are afraid of the little white box with the blinking cursor
[03:13] <jsoftw> me too.
[03:13] <zth> tonet.org
[03:13] <jsoftw> Its quite intimidating
[03:13] <Lorek> i switched my white box to a black box with neon green lettering.
[03:13] <foso> zcat[1] it says its already the latest version
[03:13] <tntCry> i love the white box and im a MS windows user since windows 3.1
[03:13] <LiMaO> zcat[1] and worthawholebean: whatever people use, synaptic, terminal.. i don't think one needs complex instructions to get a rotating cube to work on their systems
[03:13] <Lorek> are there ways to change it from a cube to say a hexagon?
[03:14] <LiMaO> Lorek: yes
[03:14] <deniz__> LiMaO, there is nutn with such a name
[03:14] <tntCry> it took me 4 days to understand all the commands for terminal and how to use them :) and i love it because if your a random computer user you will need it
[03:14] <deniz__> LiMaO, in synaptic
[03:14] <zcat[1]> for some weird reason, people expect linux to be hard. I had a guy the other day wanting me to set up his new USB wireless adaptor.. Plugged it in. Gutsy detected it and all we had to do was pick a wireless network from the list.. too damn easy.
[03:14] <ant-> tntCry, you will never know all the commands
[03:14] <donkeyofdarkness> w00t. x11 forwarding pwns
[03:14] <worthawholebean> zcat[1]: It used to be hard a lot of the time.
[03:15] <LiMaO> Lorek: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings.. then go to General Options > Desktop Size...  set horizontal virtual size to 6 and it'll be an hexagon
[03:15] <zcat[1]> Linux USED to be hard.. back in 1998 perhaps... it's not hard any more, 99% of the time.
[03:15] <Lorek> people expect linux to be hard because there's a long history of when you run into problems you need to have technical knowledge to implement the fixes.
[03:15] <adelie> zcat[1] ooh, as far as scripts doing bad things to log files, I got a script with timers that use \r for displaying progress of the script, but when thrown, \r literally appended to the file filling log files with progress bars. cat foo.log | cat > foo.log cleans them up, but it would be nice to do it a bit more streamlined.
[03:15] <donkeyofdarkness> I get things done way faster on linux than on windows
[03:15] <zcat[1]> Lorek: yeah.. whereas editing the Windows registry is easy? :)
[03:15] <Sandr1x> guys, i can't install ubuntu on my laptop, cuz whichever boot option I use it either stops while installing or just reboots
[03:15] <Lorek> i always found windows registry editing to be a cakewalk
[03:15] <LiMaO> Lorek: people do NOT experiment. they have an application but they do NOT try it. they expect someone to take their hands and show them where to click
[03:15] <bernier> Hi, how do I get the latest 8.42.3 drivers from hardy repos?
[03:15] <goodmami> so anyone know why wacom drivers seem to break with xgl?  does xgl not use xorg.conf?
[03:15] <donkeyofdarkness> Sandr1x, try the alternate install cd
[03:16] <tntCry> i know whats important ( creating a script , copying / or creating multiple files of any kind , moving / and replacing files  , .... the list goes on ant- ..
[03:16] <zcat[1]> Lorek: and I always found editing plaintext config in /etc/ to be easy :)
[03:16] <LiMaO> Lorek: if people would at least browse the applications windows, read what the buttons says they would probably figure out most stuff by themselves
[03:16] <arc3angel> has anyone had a server hang on boot up using 6.06 lts at the boot scripts
[03:16] <Sandr1x> [ donkeyofdarkness ] i've tried it. it suddenly crashes while installing open-office-java
[03:16] <foso> ramphis i dont see it in the screen settings
[03:16] <Phantombun> k
[03:16] <tntCry> lol this room is going to be offtopic soon :P
[03:16] <Phantombun> done defragging
[03:16] <tntCry> !offtopic
[03:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:16] <donkeyofdarkness> arc3angel, I've seen gutsy do that. pressing enter brought up the login prompt
[03:16] <LiMaO> deniz__: have you added the multiverse, universe and the others repositories?
[03:16] <Phantombun> Now, restart into my live cd, right?
[03:17] <worthawholebean> LiMa0: Yeah, my parents always do that...
[03:17] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[03:17] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:17] <deniz__> LiMaO, if its sumtin i have to do manually, likely not
[03:17] <arc3angel> donkey - yes exactly
[03:17] <arc3angel> then i go to tty2 and login in fine run a few commands and it starts to act as if it is hanging again
[03:17] <alvaro4356> HI, friends
[03:17] <donkeyofdarkness> odd
[03:17] <Phantombun> I'll be right back, in linux :D
[03:17] <donkeyofdarkness> I dunno
[03:17] <Lorek> actually i think there's a certain way of thinking when it comes to computers that people that don't program never really achieve. That's why some fixes seem commonly easy to some people and horribly difficult for others. But I digress, this is a support channel not a chat. If anyone wants to continue the discussion i'll be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:18] <arc3angel> i log in ssh and it never skips a beat
[03:18] <zcat[1]> deniz__: system > admin > software sources .. check the checkboxes..
[03:18] <tntCry> ant-, if you want to know commands copy the history terminal list and paste in Notes then by time after using them couple of times you will know it :)
[03:18] <alvaro4356> Oh, very coool
[03:18] <alvaro4356> this chat
[03:18] <MadWilliamFlint> hey does someone have a link to a list of essential downloads for ubuntu?  There's more stuff out there than I can possibly wade through.
[03:18] <foso> anyone know how to switch back to xorg and ditch xgl?
[03:18] <arc3angel> my previous server never hung like this
[03:18] <arc3angel> same distro and version
[03:18] <goodmami> i mean, i'm using an ibm tablet pc, and the stylus still works when running xgl, but lines aren't as smooth and eraser doesn't work
[03:18] <alvaro4356> find it at google
[03:19] <tntCry> their is a great debian wallpaper but i would like to get it without the debian test tag on it
[03:19] <Than_> hey
[03:19] <zcat[1]> foso: apt-get install xserver-xorg, it should altomatically remove Xgl when it reinstalls xorg
[03:19] <ant-> tntCry, my point is - copying, moving, replacing files is only the beginning
[03:19] <worthawholebean> arc3angel: bad hardware?
[03:19] <Than_> i have a quick question i need help with can anyone help?
[03:19] <arc3angel> brand new server
[03:19] <zcat[1]> altomatically? automagically, aotomatogically, whatever
[03:19] <arc3angel> intel based parts
[03:19] <foso> zcat[1] it said it was already the current version
[03:19] <adelie> linux is a world easier than windows for setting up. I have always had to install windows network drivers and do partitioning with a linux live cd before I was every really into linux
[03:19] <foso> judt restart?
[03:19] <zcat[1]> foso: hmm.. weird
[03:19] <arc3angel> nothing in any log file indicates an issue
[03:19] <LiMaO> zcat[1]: altomatically was funny hehe
[03:19] <tntCry> ant-, what about doings scripted tasks :)
[03:20] <jtt> !question > Than_
[03:20] <LiMaO> zcat[1]: isn't english your native language?
[03:20] <ant-> tntCry, depends on the scripts
[03:20] <adelie> even 10 years ago, linux just worked
[03:20] <goodmami> foso: you could try "apt-get remove xserver-xgl" as well
[03:20] <ant-> tntCry, some can be very basic, while others very complex
[03:20] <donkeyofdarkness> It took 45 minutes to install all the soundblaster crap on windows. On ubuntu you just stick the card in and turn on the computer.
[03:20] <LiMaO> foso: and remember, to have a rotating cube you do not need an xgl server
[03:20] <zcat[1]> adelie: well, not really... a lot of stuff has only got real userfriendly in the last year or three
[03:20] <slaytanic> Anyone here using dual head with the ati opensource driver?
[03:21] <c0mp13371331337> slaytanic: Dual head with radeon driver here.
[03:21] <tntCry> ant-, like the compiz script installer which is complex for the noobs ?
[03:21] <arc3angel> everywhere i looked at work today it seems alot of people have this issue but nothing in the threads ever showed a solution just "resolved"
[03:21] <foso> LiMaO i dont know what i need, it crashes when i have more then two desktops
[03:21] <foso> goodmami its says it cant find that package
[03:21] <goodmami> hmm
[03:21] <zcat[1]> foso: perhaps it's not installed? :)
[03:21] <ant-> tntCry, i dunno, i installed compiz without touching a script
[03:21] <deniz__> LiMaO, all checked
[03:21] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: Whenever I try to use it anything but "clone" mode, it crashes X, any ideas?
[03:21] <donkeyofdarkness> ... I've resorted to eating ketchup
[03:22] <LiMaO> deniz__: have you clicked the 'update/refresh' button after checking all of them?
[03:22] <zcat[1]> ant-: I never installed compiz.. it was just there after I installed gutsy and enables the restricted drivers
[03:22] <arc3angel> i can paste bin my logs if someone wants to look them over
[03:22] <LiMaO> deniz__: if so, now just search for compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:22] <goodmami> foso: make sure your effects are off in System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects
[03:22] <foso> zcat[1] sorry im a noob, i think xgl is installed since it said it was and its completly screwed up my graphics
[03:22] <ant-> zcat[1], sounds good
[03:22] <arc3angel> i am at a loss here - i know it has to be a configuration issue somewhere just where i am not sure
[03:23] <goodmami> and maybe restart X with ctrl-alt-bksp  (this will log you out, so save your work)
[03:23] <c0mp13371331337> slaytanic: Could be any number of things.  Can you paste bin your xorg.conf file?
[03:23] <LiMaO> !paste | slaytanic
[03:23] <ubotu> slaytanic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <tntCry> ant-, before 7.10 compiz had to be installed manually and do stimulate tasks on unpacking files ect.. into multiple files , do you mean this is a complex script ? if not can you clarify an example of how complex a script can be ..
[03:23] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: sure.
[03:23] <zcat[1]> tntCry: wasn't it already installed but not enables in feisty?
[03:24] <zcat[1]> *enabled
[03:24] <hartono> #adempiere
[03:24] <tntCry> zcat[1], no in feisty no compiz builtin
[03:25] <goodmami> so nobody knows anything about tablet pcs and wacom drivers?
[03:25] <arc3angel> any idea what cuases this --> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:25] <alvaro4356> VERY COOL
[03:25] <alvaro4356> THIS CHAT
[03:25] <tntCry> guys look at this awesome wallpaper http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/53892-Future%20Debian2.jpg
[03:25] <zcat[1]> compiz has come a LONG way in one year.. it used to be buggy as hell.. and so was beryl. Now it's rock solid. Heaps of effects, openGL games and video works without a hiccup.. it's like a dream!
[03:25] <deniz__> LiMaO, "Compiz Gnome Manager"
[03:26] <goodmami> zcat[1]: running glxgears crashes xgl for me
[03:26] <goodmami> not so stable....
[03:26] <corruptionoflulz> zcat[1]: compiz is still a fair bit away from rock solid
[03:26] <deniz__> LiMaO, is that it?
[03:26] <zcat[1]> goodmami: don't use Xgl.
[03:26] <ant-> tntCry, thats a pretty nice wallpaper, but i like mine more
[03:26] <tntCry> give me a link ant-
[03:26] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: http://pastebin.com/m532612dc
[03:26] <zcat[1]> compiz doesn't need Xgl
[03:26] <slaytanic> c0mp13371331337: I've highlighted the relevant line.
[03:26] <goodmami> zcat[1]: guess i missed something... i thought it did
[03:26] <arc3angel> that message is from my dmesg log
[03:27] <ant-> tntCry, http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/5/11/15/f_Screenshot4m_e85462c.png
[03:27] <goodmami> does compiz still use video hardware?  or does it use the main processor for all the effects?
[03:27] <zcat[1]> compiz here really is ROCK solid.. on three different cards. Compared to just a year ago it's amazing!
[03:27] <foso> goodmami why? they were working before
[03:27] <foso> to refresh: heres the instructions i followed: http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/11/compiz-fusion-with-xgl-in-gutsy.html
[03:27] <LiMaO> deniz__: please please please. read it carefully. open synaptic package manager (yes, i know you prefer the terminal, but try this one). after it's opened, click on the Search button. then type "compizconfig" without the quotes. the first entry is what you need. it's called compizconfig-settings-manager and its description is "compiz configuration settings manager"
[03:28] <LiMaO> deniz__: so no, it's not compiz gnome manager
[03:28] <corruptionoflulz> LiMaO: i think that's in the add/remove programs too, maybe it'd easier?
[03:28] <deniz__> LiMaO, i typed exactly that and nutn..
[03:28] <arc3angel> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:28] <LiMaO> deniz__: then update to 7.10 =P
[03:28] <zcat[1]> LiMaO: ppl expect linux to be hard :( They'll go ahead and install Xgl and a dozen other unnecessary packages, then they'll come back and complain that it was hard and now it's unstable.. :(
[03:28] <arc3angel> ???  6.06 LTS 32bit Server
[03:28] <LiMaO> corruptionoflulz: he can't find it anyway. hehe i'm almost quitting =P
[03:29] <deniz__> LiMaO, i have dial-up
[03:29] <kb3llm> does Ubuntu work fine on tablet PC's yet? anyone have any light to shed on the idea?
[03:29] <ant-> LiMaO, are you looking for gtk-window-decorator?
[03:29] <mactimes> Hi there!
[03:29] <LiMaO> zcat[1]: yeah, i wonder why and WHO writes such unnecessary how-tos
[03:29] <LiMaO> ant-: no
[03:29] <jsoftw> I have put entries into /etc/hosts for www.foo.com, pinging it works fine, but using firefox just goes to the actual domain...
[03:29] <tntCry> ant-, hehe
[03:29] <jsoftw> Any ideas?
[03:29] <jsoftw> I have tried restart firefox...
[03:29] <mactimes> Could someone help me with gpg, please?
[03:29] <tntCry> ant-, do you like that darkness
[03:29] <ant-> tntCry, dark and simple, i like
[03:30] <arc3angel> any reason why this is in my dmesg log --> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failed
[03:30] <kb3llm> anyone?
[03:30] <LiMaO> arc3angel: dead disk?
[03:30] <zcat[1]> deniz__: All you need is ONE small package.. dialup will be quite sifficient, please just follow the instructions you were given?
[03:30] <arc3angel> any reason why this is in my dmesg log --> [42949376.000000] sda: asking for cache data failednope
[03:30] <Phantombun> Okay, I'm ready to install linux now
[03:30] <ant-> tntCry, makes my text easier to see - http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/5/11/15/f_screenshot5m_07676b3.png
[03:30] <LiMaO> arc3angel: have you tried running fsck on that drive?
[03:30] <arc3angel> wtheck
[03:30] <slaytanic> jsoftw: No proxies are enabled in FF, right?
[03:30] <mactimes> I had a key before reinstalling my Ubuntu, could someone help me recovering it?
[03:30] <Phantombun> -Where do I start?
[03:30] <goodmami> kb3llm: i'm running it on thinkpad x61t
[03:30] <arc3angel> can i run fsck from a putty session
[03:30] <deniz__> zcat[1], i swear im not being rebellious or wtv
[03:31] <LiMaO> mactimes: a key for what? your home door? you car? =P
[03:31] <deniz__> zcat[1], im doiung exactly as told
[03:31] <jsoftw> slaytanic: nope..
[03:31] <arc3angel> also it is a brand new install on brand new parts
[03:31] <mactimes> LiMaO: a gpg key
[03:31] <tntCry> ant-,
[03:31] <kb3llm> does ubuntu work with tablet PC's guys?!?!
[03:31] <tntCry> it is not easy to see
[03:31] <mactimes> LiMaO: Exported to keyserver.ubuntu.com
[03:31] <ant-> !tablet
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <goodmami> kb3llm: read what i said 15 lines up
[03:31] <zcat[1]> gtg anyhow.. good luck all
[03:31] <tntCry> too much traffic on 1 page ant-  :/ how do you focus ?> you wearing glasses?
[03:31] <LiMaO> mactimes: sorry, i don't know anything about it =/
[03:31] <thor> arc2angel: yes you can run fsck through putty, but you have to have root access
[03:32] <deniz__> LiMaO, ill google wat ur asking
[03:32] <ant-> tntCry, how can you say that sitting in a channel with 900+ poeple?
[03:32] <slaytanic> jsoftw: Oddness.
[03:32] <Phantombun> Okay, help please...
[03:32] <WorkingOnWise> goodmami: what are u using for handwritting input?
[03:32] <Phantombun> I don't want to use my entire disk for linux
[03:32] <LiMaO> ant-: this channel has exactly 1129 people connected at this moment
[03:32] <arc3angel> i am the admin that is an easy item - although being  a brand new install (2nd fresh install) on brand new parts i dont see it being an software issue per say
[03:32] <LiMaO> ant-: just for accuracy sakes ;)
[03:33] <Scunizi> tntCry, when talking to someone you have to use their nick in the line otherwise you messages will get lost in the noise..
[03:33] <Phantombun> How do I partition only 10-15 gigs?
[03:33] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: I haven't got that far.... I'm using xournal for note taking
[03:33] <ant-> LiMaO, :P
[03:33] <Phantombun> Please, help!
[03:33] <mactimes> Could someone, please, help me recovering my gpg key?
[03:33] <goodmami> i only installed ubuntu yesterday
[03:33] <tntCry> ant-,  :/ mybad
[03:33] <Phantombun> I don't want to totally crap up my laptop and have to reformat
[03:33] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: I'm not sure if it has good handwriting recog software yet....
[03:33] <ant-> tntCry, can i see your desktop?
[03:33] <tntCry> aaaah
[03:33] <thor> Phantombun: are you running windows xp or vista in theother partition?
[03:33] <DG19075> Phantobun, you can use GParted
[03:34] <tntCry> ant-, i must print screen
[03:34] <WorkingOnWise> goodmami: i looked into Ubuntu on a tablet...bought a laptop and am waiting for good hr app before I go to a tablet.
[03:34] <Phantombun> xp home sp2
[03:34] <tntCry> my desktop is cool ;)
[03:34] <ant-> tntCry, oh?
[03:34] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: I'm surprised that setting up stylus input was easy (but not automatic), but pressure sensitivity is still evading me
[03:34] <Phantombun> I defragmented and backed up data like you guys told me to earlier
[03:34] <Phantombun> now i'm ready
[03:34] <ant-> tntCry, show-n-tell
[03:35] <goodmami> WorkingOnWise: and screen rotation when i switch to tablet mode ain't happening
[03:35] <DG19075> Phantombun, you cn have the Wionows partition resized.
[03:35] <Phantombun> I'm only giving linux 10-15 gigs
[03:35] <Phantombun> So, where do I start?
[03:36] <DG19075> Better to have each OS live in its own HDD..which is what I have here.
[03:36] <WorkingOnWise> goodmami: lol...yeah. the tablet pc is i think the last major hurdle for Linux....but it is developing.
[03:36] <tntCry> ant-, i dont have a site to upload :p
[03:36] <tntCry> ant-, im a private man
[03:36] <Phantombun> my friend is telling me that i'm gonna mess everything up installing this on my laptop
[03:36] <ant-> tntCry, picoodle.com
[03:36] <Phantombun> now i'm worried :S
[03:36] <ant-> tntCry, quick and easy
[03:36] <tntCry> ant-, btw tntcry try not to cry
[03:36] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: you COULD backup first...
[03:36] <abc> hi all - i have just installed OpenVPN - but it does not appear on my menu list - where do i find it and run ?
[03:37] <DG19075> hantombun, you'd have to re install Ubuntu and have it resize the partitions in the HDD
[03:37] <arc3angel> this thing seems to hang on running boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)
[03:37] <Phantombun> wait, what?
[03:37] <ant-> tntCry, they have medacine for that kinda stuff
[03:37] <tntCry> ant-, what stuff?
[03:37] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: the ubuntu installer will resize the partitions for you (defrag is recommended)
[03:37] <ant-> tntCry, trying not to cry
[03:38] <Phantombun> I just got done defragging
[03:38] <ant-> tntCry, (depression)
[03:38] <tntCry> ant-, damn? people take medcine so they dont cry
[03:38] <tntCry> you mean anti dpression? ant-
[03:38] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: do you have any important data that would be good to back up? just to make you feel safer..
[03:38] <Phantombun> Well, quite a bit actually
[03:38] <tntCry> ant-, who make these stuff lo
[03:38] <Phantombun> but, i'm not gonna fail on my first try, am I?
[03:38] <arc3angel> i am at a total loss here
[03:39] <arc3angel> cant figure this out for anything
[03:39] <ant-> tntCry, i dunno, i havent cried in a while
[03:39] <LiMaO> tntCry: medicine that prevents depression may be considered medicine not to cry
[03:39] <LiMaO> =P
[03:39] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: not likely, but i backed up before i did it, just for peace of mind.. never used the backup though
[03:39] <tntCry> means your depressed ant- ?
[03:39] <Phantombun> oh?
[03:39] <tntCry> LiMaO, who doesnt want to cry ?
[03:39] <LiMaO> tntCry: i don't. i prefer to smile =D
[03:39] <Phantombun> if things go wrong, i can still recover the hard drive contents, right?
[03:40] <ant-> i dont want to cry
[03:40] <LiMaO> ant-: are you ok? i can be your friend. lol
[03:40] <LiMaO> =D
[03:40] <ant-> how did this get turned on me?
[03:40] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: as long as you don't overwrite things.
[03:40] <Phantombun> it's asking me how I want to partition the disk
[03:41] <LiMaO> ant-: aren't you the one taking the anti-depressive medicine? =P
[03:41] <tntCry> LiMaO, then follow the ancient routines , no caffine no nicotine no alchohol no drugs ( have water during the time you will fast , and fast for 4 to 8 times a week ) , it cured 20,000 people who tried the rest didnt try thats why didnt cure :)
[03:41] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: easiest way is to just let it resize it for you
[03:41] <Phantombun> It has Use entire disk, use largest continuous free space, and manual
[03:41] <DG19075> and it's probably giving you  a percentage of the disk to use for Ubuntu ?
[03:41] <Phantombun> no
[03:42] <corruptionoflulz> there isn't a resize thing with a slider up top?
[03:42] <LiMaO> tntCry: i didn't understand the 'fast for 4 to 8 times a week'.. isn't fast an adjective?
[03:42] <corruptionoflulz> take screen shot.
[03:42] <deniz__> is there such a thing as a defragger for ubuntu or does ubuntu write files in a manner in which things will never fragment themselves?
[03:42] <c0Ld> PhantomBun: Manual
[03:42] <corruptionoflulz> deniz__:  the latter i believe.
[03:42] <tntCry> fast to not eat LiMaO
[03:42] <LiMaO> deniz__: linux doesn't need defragmentation
[03:42] <Phantombun> >_<
[03:42] <ant-> !defrag
[03:42] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[03:42] <Phantombun> Screenshot or Manual?
[03:42] <tntCry> i just found a creat feature request in compiz check this out http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5340
[03:42] <tntCry> great >
[03:43] <LiMaO> tntCry: oh man. i can't stand it. eating is good. =D
[03:43] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: take a screen shot, and put it on www.imageshack.us
[03:43] <emory> howdy all
[03:43] <Phantombun> dangit i got two people ordering me around
[03:43] <corruptionoflulz> Phantombun: there should be a slider thingy for resizing...
[03:43] <tntCry> if that feature is available compiz might not be free lo
[03:43] <deniz__> k, thx for answer :)
[03:43] <deniz__> LiMaO, im stuck with this supposedly easy thing...
[03:43] <c0Ld> corruptionoflulz: I think he has to select manual to get that ;p
[03:43] <tntCry> LiMaO, then you must know that most scientists say its not :)
[03:44] <emory> So i'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with a Radeon 9600 and just found out that the ATI proprietary driver breaks MythTV, so I switched to the OS driver but TV Out now totally doesn't work... I know this is a bit of a n00b question, but maybe someone could point me at a good walkthrough for getting this setup properly?
[03:44] <Phantombun> i did manual
[03:44] <corruptionoflulz> c0Ld: the resize slider should be there up at the top, and then the other options he mentioned, manual is a bit different
[03:44] <LiMaO> deniz__: guess you have to upgrade to 7.10 to have compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:44] <artii> hello
[03:44] <LiMaO> tntCry: eating is fine, eating too much is not
[03:44] <corruptionoflulz> c0Ld: with manual you have to do the resizing and the swap yourself
[03:44] <tntCry> your better then scientists LiMaO  :) or youmean eating is good for you and if some1 poses you a religion you will not like it because it doesnt satisfy you ? i can grasp on the edges of your lightened source.
[03:45] <ant-> LiMaO, i'm running 7.10 and there is no compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:45] <tntCry> ant-, you must download it !ccsm
[03:45] <deniz__> there is on this link
[03:45] <tntCry> !ccsm
[03:45] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:45] <LiMaO> ant-: where there is no compizconfig-settings-manager? it's on synaptic
[03:45] <Phantombun> it's showing me
[03:45] <Phantombun> bleh
[03:45] <Phantombun> i give up
[03:45] <deniz__> compizconfig thing http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:46] <LiMaO> tntCry: actually eating is good as in it gives me satisfaction. i don't mean the clown diet though =P
[03:46] <deniz__> but only for gutsy
[03:46] <emory> So i'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with a Radeon 9600 and just found out that the ATI proprietary driver breaks MythTV, so I switched to the OS driver but TV Out now totally doesn't work... I know this is a bit of a n00b question, but maybe someone could point me at a good walkthrough for getting this setup properly?
[03:46] <tntCry> guys read this amazing post requesting a feature in compiz http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5340
[03:46] <corruptionoflulz> Am i the only one who thinks it's stupid how your pidgin stuff is under a folder named "purple"?
[03:47] <tntCry> LiMaO, maybe if we we're in camp or somethin me and you , we can have a bet and trust me int he end of the bet if you win you will say thanks for revealing this truth while i didnt know its true
[03:47] <burner__> corruptionoflulz, i think it's cool that pidgin uses purple so you can use other frontends like finch and possibly an qt one
[03:48] <corruptionoflulz> burner: *whoosh* over my head.
[03:48] <deniz__> how come things that work on edgy work on feisty but other apps dont work on other versiojns? im talkin bout opera web browser..
[03:48] <LiMaO> tntCry: tell me, what's the thruth?
[03:48] <bernier> Hi, is it possible to compile fglrx on hardy even if hardy is not in the --buildpkg option?
[03:48] <deniz__> anyway, i give up for today
[03:49] <corruptionoflulz> deniz__: wait, what about opera? works fine for me on 7.10
[03:49] <tntCry> LiMaO, let go to !offtopic
[03:49] <deniz__> corruptionoflulz, no i was just saying that there is an opera that works on both edgy and feisty, so y dont gutsy things work in feisty?
[03:50] <corruptionoflulz> deniz__: ah, dunno then.
[03:50] <deniz__> o ya how do i use wine
[03:50] <deniz__> i have it and ive never touched a video game for like over 6 months
[03:50] <deniz__> and that makes me wanna cry
[03:50] <deniz__> lol
[03:51] <ant-> deniz__, type 'wine program_name'
[03:51] <lousygarua> hello, do anyone has this funny issue where the Right Alt is not really an Alt?
[03:51] <thor> deniz__: you need the full path for most programs
[03:51] <ant-> deniz__, but first 'wine program_install'
[03:52] <deniz__> were do i do this?
[03:52] <CubeXombi> is someone in here familiar with ir Remotes? I'm trying to use one with my laptop and xmms, though I'm having difficulty trying to determine the ir code length, "cat /dev/ttyS1" while pressing buttons only shows dummy characters, so i can't determine it that way
[03:52] <CubeXombi> and my google-fu is weak
[03:52] <ant-> deniz__, terminal
[03:53] <deniz__> ant-, do i type that EXACTLY or i replace program with that i want to run?
[03:53] <DG19075> deniz_, you can also run wine by typing 'winefile' in a terminal
[03:53] <crazy6> how do I see what events acpid is catching? the brightness buttons on my laptop aren't working...
[03:53] <ant-> deniz__, the name of the program of course
[03:54] <deniz__> but how will it guess?
[03:54] <deniz__> like i have
[03:54] <ant-> deniz__, basically to use wine you just type 'wine' in front of the command
[03:54] <deniz__> halo.iso on my hdd
[03:54] <DG19075> you can the drag/drop Windows ssetup files to the virtuasl C drive and set em up there
[03:54] <deniz__> ant-, so how would i install halo?
[03:54] <Archon> does anyone use MySQL? my question is whether I need the "debian-sys-maint@localhost" user account
[03:54] <ant-> deniz__, wine name-of-installer
[03:55] <DG19075> terminal command then would be wine halo
[03:55] <jimbo> you meed to mount the iso ifrst if you havn't
[03:55] <ant-> deniz__, you need to write the .iso to a disk of course
[03:55] <deniz__> ant-, sry for being stupid but how do i no the name of the installer?
[03:55] <Clearze1> Archon: You first should set a root password and then make a user account. phpmyadmin is a good tool.
[03:55] <racarter> how do i change my computer name in ubuntu?
[03:55] <jimbo> or mount it via t loopback
[03:55] <jimbo> -t
[03:56] <ant-> deniz__, better to write it to disk if you have one
[03:56] <Archon> Clearze1: well, i've got it working, but i've personally never used that account
[03:56] <Archon> Clearze1: but i don't want to delete it if i don't need it
[03:56] <deniz__> ant-, cant i just mount it?
[03:56] <deniz__> ant-, i have no cd's...
[03:56] <Clearze1> Archon: you log into mysql with that user. You don't want to login as root.
[03:57] <Clearze1> Archon: if that is what you mean
[03:57] <ant-> deniz__, i think you saw what jimbo wrote
[03:57] <Archon> Clearze1: ehh, i've been using root >.>
[03:57] <Archon> but
[03:57] <Archon> only for DDL
[03:57] <thor> racarter: edit the file /etc/hosts
[03:57] <Archon> Clearze1: eventually, i wont use root when the database(s) that i create for my own purposes are done and secure
[03:57] <racarter> thanks thor
[03:58] <Clearze1> Archon: phpmyadmin is a good webbased tool that will help you a lot with mysql. It's helped me a lot. Anyway, I would keep the user.
[03:58] <thor> racarter: you can also use the command hostname
[03:58] <pjeide> Archon: phpMyAdmin is very good
[03:58] <deniz__> ant-, so i mount then i do "wine halo"?
[03:58] <pjeide> easy to set up
[03:58] <crazy6> gah, why doesnt this thing work??
[03:58] <ant-> deniz__, the name of the file used to install halo
[03:59] <ant-> deniz__, it may be halo, but i dunno
[04:00] <corruptionoflulz> a lot of times, it'll show in your wine menu too
[04:00] <DG19075> is using Wine to run Adobe audition 1.5
[04:01] <deniz__> ant-, i think it would be like halo combat evolved
[04:01] <deniz__> ant-, omg im so stupid
[04:01] <deniz__> ant-, is there a specific program i need to mount halo.iso?
[04:02] <ant-> deniz__, you say that like its a good thing
[04:02] <deniz__> ant-, its not
[04:02] <usser> deniz__, no u can just use mount command
[04:02] <DG19075> the only thing i can't get is that the transport keys don't fill the squares as they do in Windows
[04:02] <ant-> deniz__, mount
[04:02] <deniz__> my halo.iso is on the desktop
[04:02] <deniz__> so wat would be the exact command?
[04:02] <ant-> heh
[04:02] <usser> deniz__, something like that mount ~/Desktop/myiso.iso /mnt -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0
[04:03] <DG19075> so it's hard to see the key functions
[04:03] <Clearze1> usser:There isn't a  equal sign
[04:03] <usser> deniz__, put sudo in front and substitute myiso.iso with the actual name
[04:03] <ubuntu_> a
[04:03] <deniz__> usser, k, thx
[04:04] <usser> Clearze1, ?
[04:04] <DG19075> anyone else run into this problem?
[04:04] <usser> Clearze1, well i suppose -o loop would work to
[04:05] <QuasarRichter> LINUX OR WINDOWS!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!
[04:06] <donkeyofdarkness> linux ftw
[04:06] <deniz__> usser, i did that but how do i no if its successful, on computer it doesnt show a halo disc
[04:06] <cps1966> alway LINUX
[04:06] <smultron> if you play games, Windows. otherwise, Linux
[04:06] <donkeyofdarkness> yep
[04:06] <donkeyofdarkness> osx is good for itunes and stuff
[04:07] <deniz__> linux is the best, open source is best, etc, in my opinion
[04:07] <usser> deniz__, now u can go to places->computer->filesystem->/mnt
[04:07] <usser> deniz__, cd is there
[04:07] <donkeyofdarkness> !botsnack
[04:07] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:08] <deniz__> usser, im in computer filesystems mnt and i c halo stuff
[04:08] <deniz__> usser, so that means sucess right?
[04:09] <MagickalHack> Anyone here know about multi-card readers?
[04:09] <usser> deniz__, yes if u see it then its mounted
[04:09] <poogle> anyone able to get sound working on a realtek ide 268 card?
[04:09] <deniz__> usser, so now wat do i do in terminal to get wine to run it?
[04:09] <usser> deniz__, wine setup.exe i guess
[04:09] <usser> deniz__, or wine install.exe
[04:10] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, yes in windows they never seem to have the right drive letter and name lol.
[04:10] <PirateHead> I'm having a problem with OOo's export to PDF function. It's not exporting my quotes (") or dashes (-).
[04:10] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, just ask.
[04:10] <PirateHead> If I print to PostScript and use ps2pdf to convert it to PDF, the quotes and dashes work just fine.
[04:10] <owen1_> i was disconnected, someone helped me with my router/nginx issue....
[04:10] <PirateHead> I only have a problem trying to export directly from OOo.
[04:10] <Wrec> anyone know what "g++.real: argument to '-L' missing" means?
[04:10] <Wrec> I'm compiling version 1.42 of zsnes
[04:11] <deniz__> usser, how can i determine for myself wat the exact name would be?
[04:11] <MagickalHack> I need to find someone who can help me get mine to work. I'm running an acer 5100 with gutsy.
[04:11] <gavin__> hiya all
[04:11] <Wrec> anyone know what "g++.real: argument to '-L' missing" means?
[04:11] <owen1_> how to set my router to expose my desktop with nginx server?
[04:11] <thor> Wrec: I think it means the library referenced in the previous line is missing (-L<library>
[04:12] <deniz__> usser, i see setup.exe
[04:12] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, what doesn't work?
[04:12] <deniz__> usser, so wine setup.exe?
[04:12] <usser> deniz__, yep
[04:12] <MagickalHack> The card reader, it just doesn't see it.
[04:12] <deniz__> it says could not load and module is not found
[04:12] <MagickalHack> I've tried booting with a card in and still nothing.
[04:13] <gavin__> is there a 3gp to avi converter in 7.04 repo
[04:13] <abacka> any one can give me link to  u7fixit.tar for ubuntu 7.04
[04:13] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, does windows see it?
[04:13] <donkeyofdarkness> gavin__, maybe mencoder?
[04:13] <MagickalHack> @Ash: Yeah it did.
[04:13] <Wrec> thor: how do I fix that?
[04:14] <gavin__> Thanks i`ll have a quick look
[04:14] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, is it like intergrated?
[04:14] <donkeyofdarkness> mencoder converts just about everything
[04:14] <MagickalHack> Yeah.
[04:14] <slaytanic> What can I use to capture images from my webcam?
[04:14] <thor> Wrec: you have to first look at the previous line and figure out what is missing, then find the package that offers that library. Google can usually lead you to the right package
[04:14] <Ashfire908> MagickalHack, what is the model (of the reader)
[04:15] <Wrec> "pensive-optimizations -s -march=pentiumpro  -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/lib  -lz -L/usr/lib -lSDL  -lpng -lm -L
[04:15] <Wrec> g++.real: argument to '-L' missing
[04:15] <Wrec> "
[04:15] <uKKeMan> slaytanic: camorama
[04:15] <ant-> deniz__, read the installation suggestion: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2720
[04:15] <MagickalHack> Ash: Sec, gonna have to look it up [my memory sucks.
[04:15] <Wrec> thor: can you tell from that?
[04:15] <deniz__> ant-, k
[04:15] <gavin__> cheers
[04:15] <thor> Wrec: lookslike you are missing a directory...check those three and see if they exist
[04:15] <Wrec> thor: google isn't helping tonight :P
[04:15] <Wrec> thor: which directories?
[04:15] <ant-> usser, i got your back...
[04:16] <travis> anyone know how to get the macosx taskbar in gnome 7.10?
[04:16] <donkeyofdarkness> yes
[04:16] <donkeyofdarkness> install awn
[04:16] <Wrec> thor: /usr/local/lib /usr/lib ?
[04:17] <thor> Wrec: looks like they are both there...I am running 7.10 and they are there by default
[04:17] <travis> can you apt-get awn?
[04:17] <Wrec> thor: I am as well
[04:17] <donkeyofdarkness> no
[04:17] <thor> but that last -L...with nothing after it....might be the problem
[04:17] <Ashfire908> do you happen to see anything that looks like the reader in /dev/disk/by-id/?
[04:17] <donkeyofdarkness> i duuno
[04:17] <slaytanic> uKKeMan: Looks good, thanks.
[04:17] <uKKeMan> slaytanic, no problem
[04:17] <Wrec> thor: yeah, it's very odd
[04:17] <thor> Wrec: I would edit the make file and get rid of that last -L
[04:18] <thor> Wrec: worth a shot
[04:18] <Wrec> thor: k, be right back
[04:18] <ant-> thor, i bet the last directory got cut off in the copy/paste
[04:19] <DG19075> abacka: go here:http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/21/usb-ubuntu-704-persistent-install-for-linux-users/
[04:19] <thor> ant-: possibility...I can only go on what he sends <smile>
[04:20] <thor> ant-: but the error fits
[04:20] <DG19075> this will give you the u7fixit.tar
[04:21] <Wrec> thor: it just sort of stopped O.O
[04:21] <Wrec> thor: usr/lib -lSDL  -lpng -lm
[04:21] <Wrec> rm -f version.o
[04:21] <Wrec> thor: and that's all it does
[04:21] <WorkingOnWise> someting had consumed all the free space on my puter. how can I find out what has done it and here the space is taken what file(s) are using it? The last time I had this problem it was a problem with beagle but that was back with Ubuntu 7.04 herd 3 if I remember. I removed beagle abd the problem was fixed. My immediate problem, at least based on last time, it that if I shut dowm with 0 space on/ I wont be ablt to log in if 
[04:21] <uKKeMan> fuck
[04:21] <thor> well...you are in the right place then <smile>. Now you need to figure out what needs to go after that -L
[04:21] <uKKeMan> its 5.20 in the morning and i need to bring the fucking garbage out
[04:22] <Wrec> thor: how do I do that?
[04:22] <stdin> !language | uKKeMan
[04:22] <ubotu> uKKeMan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:22] <magic_ninja> !apparmor
[04:22] <thor> WorkingOnWise: try baobab
[04:22] <ubotu> For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[04:22] <thor> Wrec: a lot of research...I have never mastered compiling programs...just give it my best shot
[04:22] <thor> Wrec: we are about as deep into it as I have ever gone.
[04:23] <Wrec> thor: *looks around* it's kinda dark in here...and what's that on the ground
[04:23] <Wrec> :P
[04:23] <thor> Wrec: I usually take a different approach now...try to find out from the program's homepage what dependencies there are...and make sure you have them all installed
[04:23] <linux88>  Is anyone here familiar with how the Internet works? and how dsl works?
[04:23] <Wrec> thor: put the -L back in?
[04:24] <avgenera1> [question] I can't upload my pictures in myspace, webshots, facebook, etc.
[04:24] <ant-> Wrec, you might get some help in ##c++
[04:24] <avgenera1> ...how do I upload them?
[04:24] <linux88> MYSPACE sucks
[04:24] <AdioHyperion> lol
[04:24] <Wrec> ant: thanks, I"ll do that
[04:24] <thor> Wrec: I would while you remember where it goes
[04:24] <ant-> Wrec, it might be dark in there as well...
[04:24] <avgenera1> how do you guys upload pictures?
[04:24] <jimbo> linux88
[04:24] <thor> Wrec: you can always take it out again <smile>
[04:24] <linux88> yo jimbo
[04:24] <AdioHyperion> i am trying to setup a second hard drive for storage - but when i boot, it does not always show up under the computer
[04:25] <carbine> Anyone here willing to help me with a slow boot issue?
[04:25] <jimbo> linux88: thats a pretty  broad question
[04:25] <linux88> jimbo lol i know well.... maybe u can help
[04:25] <AdioHyperion> plus when i try to access the hard drive when it does show up... it says cannot mount volume
[04:25] <usser> carbine, turn off the bootsplash screen and see where it stalls the most
[04:25] <jimbo> ok tell us the proplem
[04:26] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is meant by 'bug-sqatting' as in http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/06/0146209?
[04:26] <carbine> Alrighty. I'll do that. Be back in a bit. Thanks!
[04:26] <linux88> jimbo ok when you ifconfig   under bcast: theres an ip, which im assuming is giving me my internet. how do i find out what that ip is?
[04:26] <linux88> jimbo i wana know how im getting my internet
[04:27] <AdioHyperion> that makes no sense
[04:27] <AdioHyperion> can anyone help me with my slave drive?
[04:27] <Wrec> is it asking for a raise?
[04:27] <linux88> adiohyperion has it ever shwon up?
[04:27] <AdioHyperion> yes
[04:28] <Wrec> lol
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> but not every time
[04:28] <linux88> adiohyperion is it 50 /50?
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> yeah about
[04:28] <Wrec> thor: thanks for helping me
[04:28] <Wrec> thor: I have to leave now :(
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> like every other time
[04:28] <linux88> adiohyperion hm is it external?
[04:28] <AdioHyperion> both are internal
[04:28] <thor> Wrec: good luck
[04:28] <heavyd> my hot water tank blew up. Darn.
[04:29] <AdioHyperion> the jumpers on both hard drives are set to cable select
[04:29] <heavyd> woops.. wrong channel
[04:29] <AdioHyperion> i am booting off of the master disk
[04:29] <alecwh> !linux
[04:29] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[04:29] <linux88> adiohyperion why cable? shouldnt one be master and the other slave
[04:30] <AdioHyperion> one disk is master and the other is slave
[04:30] <peepsalot> every time i try to install an app now(via apt-get), it hangs on  "Setting up [package name] ..."
[04:30] <xxx> hi! am back!
[04:30] <WorkingOnWise> thor: things are bad. I cant start a terminal. cant launch synaptic to see if baobab is installed. I see via System Monitor that beagled has a ton of files open. If I kiled that process, would that also remove those files?
[04:30] <linux88> adiohyperion hmm i dont know then. try the livecd a few times and see  how often u see it
[04:30] <linux88> peepsalot use wireshark
[04:31] <AdioHyperion> is there a way to use the terminal and delete the partition off of the hard drive
[04:31] <carbine> Thinking the splash screen may have been the problem...
[04:31] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: sure.  What are you looking to do with it?
[04:31] <peepsalot> linux88 what would I use that for
[04:31] <xxx> is there a repair disk for ubuntu?
[04:31] <AdioHyperion> i just want to use the slave drive for storage
[04:31] <peepsalot> linux88, it doesn't hang during download
[04:32] <xxx> i think my system broke
[04:32] <linux88> peepsalot oh...sorry i dont know then
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> but im sure i screwed up the partition
[04:32] <carbine> Disabled the splash screen and it just blew right on through. =D
[04:32] <Caplain> is there an ubuntu server channel?
[04:32] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: ah.  check out `parted`
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> need to start over but i cant find what im looking for on google
[04:32] <carbine> Thanks much for the help.
[04:32] <Flannel> Caplain: This is the best place to ask
[04:32] <peepsalot> linux88, it's after it unpacks it, then it says it's setting it up
[04:32] <Tixer> I just connected two HDDs to my server, and they're not mounting. How do I mount them?
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> what are you talking about
[04:32] <AdioHyperion> 'parted'
[04:32] <linux88> peepsalot i dont know, but ti hurts when package managers break. try synaptic
[04:33] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: Its a terminal program you can use to do partitioning from the terminal
[04:33] <AdioHyperion> okay
[04:33] <Caplain> well i have 4 ethernet adapters in my box which is acting as a bridge, 1 is wireless and connects to the router for the internet, i can ping it from the box, i can ping my bridge from my client but i cant ping the router from my client
[04:33] <AdioHyperion> http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/download.shtml
[04:33] <AdioHyperion> this?
[04:34] <donkeyofdarkness> orly?
[04:34] <Mr_Awesom1> rly
[04:34] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: Its already installed but yes.
[04:34] <donkeyofdarkness> :o
[04:34] <Tixer> how do I see what HDD's are connected?
[04:34] <Flannel> Tixer: sudo fdisk -l
[04:35] <Flannel> Tixer: thats a lower case L
[04:35] <AdioHyperion> my slave drive shows up when i do that btw
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> slave
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> o_O
[04:35] <ant-> heh
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> That's why I like sata
[04:35] <Tixer> does fdisk -l list USB drives?
[04:35] <donkeyofdarkness> no jumpers needed
[04:36] <donkeyofdarkness> just plug em all in and pick which one to boot from in the bios
[04:36] <donkeyofdarkness> :)
[04:36] <WorkingOnWise> something has consumed all the free space on my coputer. how can I find out what has done it and here the space is taken what file(s) are using it? The last time I had this problem it was a problem with beagle but that was back with Ubuntu 7.04 herd 3 if I remember. I removed beagle and the problem was fixed. My immediate problem, at least based on last time, it that if I shut down with 0 space on/ I wont be able to log in 
[04:36] <Bonste1> any1 no how to compile from source?
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> yeah
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> ./configure
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> make
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> make install
[04:37] <donkeyofdarkness> usually
[04:37] <AdioHyperion> i downloaded the parted thing... no idea how to use it lol
[04:37] <Flannel> Tixer: no, I dont believe so.  Try lsusb and/or check your /dev/sda's (although those will be all your HDDs now)
[04:37] <Flannel> !compile | Bonste1
[04:37] <ubotu> Bonste1: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[04:38] <donkeyofdarkness> hmm
[04:38] <donkeyofdarkness> !ipod
[04:38] <AdioHyperion> ./configure command not found
[04:38] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[04:38] <AdioHyperion> any idea?
[04:38] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: parted is already installed on your system, you dont need to download it
[04:38] <DG19075> !rockbox
[04:38] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[04:39] <AdioHyperion> ....oh
[04:39] <AdioHyperion> can you tell me where it is located
[04:39] <Bonste1> use floola for ipod
[04:39] <brianw_> anyone here use bluetooth pan w/ a ppc phone?
[04:39] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: did you try disk usage analyzer?
[04:39] <ryzomeYO> can someone help a ubuntu newb, please?
[04:39] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: It doesn't matter. It's in your path.  just `sudo parted whatever`
[04:39] <AdioHyperion> ok
[04:40] <AdioHyperion> sry for the stupidity... first time with linux
[04:40] <Flannel> AdioHyperion: No worries.  We all have to learn sooner or later
[04:40] <donkeyofdarkness> I've got a 3rd gen ipod nano. not supported yet
[04:40] <AdioHyperion> so put sudo parted /dev/hdb
[04:40] <AdioHyperion> ?
[04:40] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: will it show who is using what?
[04:40] <trwww> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --syn -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j ACCEPT
[04:41] <trwww> this rule will Accept all traffic from a specific machine with IP x.x.x.x
[04:41] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: it will show what applications/files/folders are using more of the disk than others. just go to applications->accessories->disk usage analyzer, it should be there
[04:41] <trwww> does anyone know if a hostname will work in place of the ip address?
[04:41] <Bonste1> donkeyofdarkness: hey can u help me compile this ps2 emulator http://www.pcsx2.net/downloads.php
[04:41] <brianw_> trwww: no
[04:42] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: and click scan filesystem
[04:42] <brianw_> trwww: although you could make a function...
[04:42] <AdioHyperion> flannel?
[04:42] <AdioHyperion> sudo parted /dev/hdb?
[04:42] <apocn> hello, how can I connect to an ipsec vpn? what vpn client do you recomend?
[04:43] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: with 0 bytes free it wont even start....
[04:44] <ryzomeYO> can anyone help me with screen resolution problems?
[04:44] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: oh.... hm... i'm pretty new to linux, all i can say is try to compress files/folders or delete some stuff then check the DUA again
[04:44] <ryzomeYO> trying to get more than 640x480 and 800x600
[04:44] <WorkingOnWise> and I cant even use man...how do I properly shut down beagled and beagled-helper from the command line? I can still issue commande vie Alt-F2
[04:44] <meeper> Missing trailing-" in remote-shell command. <--- anybody know what this means coming from rsync?
[04:45] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: in terminal type jobs... does it show up there?
[04:45] <AdioHyperion> i am using parted and making a new partition
[04:46] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: the closest I can get to a terminal in this state is Alt-F2. I can see all my running processes with System Monitor...
[04:46] <AdioHyperion> i chose ext2
[04:46] <usser> AdioHyperion, ext3 would be a better choice
[04:46] <Varanger> I recently upgraded my Internet to 1500 kbps!!! I am downloading very fast!!!
[04:46] <usser> AdioHyperion, or reiserfs
[04:46] <AdioHyperion> what is the start and end?
[04:47] <usser> Varanger, Kilobytes?
[04:47] <meeper> anybody, anybody at all?
[04:47] <AdioHyperion> ok i will redo it
[04:47] <AdioHyperion> i still need to know what the start and end is
[04:47] <darkentity> has anybody gotten azureus vuze to function in ubuntu ???
[04:47] <apocn_> hello, how can I connect to an ipsec vpn? what vpn client do you recomend?
[04:47] <usser> apocn, try ipsec-tools
[04:47] <apocn_> Im using ubuntu 7.10
[04:47] <Varanger> usser: kilobauds. I was used to downloading up to 66 kilobytes/sec .... now 154 KB / sec !!!
[04:47] <apocn_> ok
[04:48] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: alt-f2 is only an application launcher, it wont do anything if you can't launch any applications... lol what exactly is happening on your comp?
[04:48] <usser> Varanger, oh lol, i got 1.5Mbps :)
[04:48] <AdioHyperion> i hate to pop you bubble... but 1500kbps is slow
 you could add a journal and turn your ext2 partition into a ext3 one
[04:48] <Leonord> i have 4mbps and it's too damn slow !
[04:48] <cm_> hi, i'm looking to install ubuntu on my new mac mini ... should i download the install for a "standard personal computer" or "64 AMD and Intel computers"? ... it'll probably go without saying, but i'm a total newbie to this ... all i know about my cpu is that it's 1.83 GHx Intel Core 2 Duo
[04:48] <AdioHyperion> have 6mbps and about to get 10mbps
[04:49] <Leonord> *bandwidth envy*
[04:49] <peepsalot> does anyone know any GUI cvs app besides gcvs?
[04:49] <AdioHyperion> anyways... what is the start and end making a partition
[04:49] <DG19075> *extreme bandwidth eny*
[04:49] <Varanger> sorry... I meant 1.5 Mbps = 150 KB / sec for me!!
[04:49] <darkentity> does anyone here use azureus on ubuntu?
[04:50] <WorkingOnWise> spiffman: something has consumed all space on / , and in that state, you cant log into anything, most apps wont launch. I need to find out what is eating drive space.
[04:51] <donkeyofdarkness> azureus is really buggy for me
[04:51] <donkeyofdarkness> so I use ktorrent
[04:51] <peepsalot> Varanger, 1.5Mbps = 187.5 KBps
[04:51] <slaytanic> I use deluge, it's a good bittorrent client.
[04:51] <jimbo> transmission is nice too
[04:51] <AdioHyperion> i download at almost 800 kb/s
[04:51] <ubuntu_> buggy means?
[04:51] <brianw_> anyone here use bluetooth pan w/ a ppc phone?
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> crashing
[04:52] <Varanger> peepsalot: For me, it's just 154 KBps :(
[04:52] <AdioHyperion> could someone please tell me what the start and end is when making a new partition so i can finish
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> I dun remember why
[04:52] <spiffman> WorkingOnWise: I would probably try deleting/compressing what i can just to get disk usage analyzer to work, but someone else might have a better answer :P
[04:52] <peepsalot> i get about 4Mbps or 500KB/s
[04:52] <donkeyofdarkness> ktorrent seems a lot more stable.
[04:53] <AdioHyperion> i use utorrent
[04:53] <AdioHyperion> love it
[04:53] <donkeyofdarkness> I use azureus on mac and windows
[04:53] <spiffman> azureus on ubuntu was really unstable for me too
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> It was ok on feisty
[04:54] <jdt> hi, is there a simple explaination as to why Ubuntu Gutsy would not recognise all 4Gb RAM on a MacPro?   (2 x 2Gb)
[04:54] <AdioHyperion> i still need to know what the start and end is when making a new partition
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> jdt, yes
[04:54] <jdt> It only recognises 2Gb
[04:54] <Varanger> peepsalot: that's a lot... I remembered when I used to download at 1.5 KBps (14400 modem) and when I upgraded to 57.6 modem... 5.7 KBps just 4 years ago
[04:54] <donkeyofdarkness> Are you running a 32bit OS?
[04:55] <donkeyofdarkness> a 32 bit os will not be able to use it all
[04:55] <jdt> donkeyofdarkness: yes, the 32 bit version
[04:55] <peepsalot> Varanger, yeah i once had a 2400 bps too ;-)  good ol Prodigy
[04:55] <weltschmerz> how do i choose a different audio device in pulseaudio?
[04:55] <weltschmerz> it's trying to play on the usb.
[04:55] <donkeyofdarkness> I have a box with 4GBs ram and a 32 bit OS will only use like 3.2GBs
[04:55] <spiffman> is there a limit to ram for 64-bit?
[04:56] <andhi> haiii
[04:56] <donkeyofdarkness> I'm sure there is a limit for 64 bit but it's probably an insanely high number
[04:56] <usser> spiffman, in 64 bit the limit is 2^64 power
[04:56] <darkentity> does anyone use azureus on ubuntu?
[04:56] <timsandtoms> Hey guys, quick question. I have the Maya CD, which of these do I use to install it? http://i2.tinypic.com/6ljonxz.png
[04:57] <Dr_willis> 64bit i think is like 16 petabytes or somthing like that
[04:57] <AdioHyperion> would someone explain to me what the start and end mean when making a new partition
[04:57] <peepsalot> darkentity, i tried a while ago, but the package was constantly broken
[04:57] <peepsalot> did they ever fix it?
[04:57] <donkeyofdarkness> = O
[04:57] <donkeyofdarkness> my board only supports 8 GBs :(
[04:57] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: the blocks
[04:58] <AdioHyperion> how do i know what i need to set mine to
[04:58] <trwww> brianw_: thanks!
[04:58] <darkentity> peepsalot: it works but the vuze interface is not there...i want it the way u would get as windows where u could download all there videos
[04:58] <usser> AdioHyperion, its precisely what it is start is the address at which the partition starts ends where it ends
[04:58] <jdt> donkeyofdarkness: Thanks for the quick answer...  I will give the 64bit download version a go. Out of curiosity, what is the reason for the limit?
[04:58] <DG19075> 2^64= 18446744073709551616
[04:58] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  you can have more then 1 parittion. they can start at different locations on the hard drive. and thus end at different spots.  if you want ot use the whole drive use the start of the hd. and the end of the hd. you get a single partition then
[04:58] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: use cfdisk
[04:58] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: and just set the MB or you want it to be...
[04:58] <darkentity> does anyone know how to get that vuze interface on azureus ...does it even exist for ubuntu?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  you may also want to check out gparted, with fdisk you can select the start of the partion then use +100gb to make the end be 100gb later.
[04:59] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[04:59] <jimbo> timsandtoms: you can use alien to install rpms, find out about it by typing "apt-cache show alien"
[04:59] <Varanger> I am leaving bye!
[04:59] <timsandtoms> jimbo: type that here in IRC, or in Terminal? I'm new to IRC, sorry
[05:00] <Tixer> I have a HUGE linux issue: I just added 2 external USB drives, and Ubuntu isn't detecting them
[05:00] <AdioHyperion> omg i was using all that parted stuff and all i had to do is type cfdisk /dev/hdb
[05:00] <AdioHyperion> ....
[05:00] <MagickalHack> timsandtoms that would be in terminal
[05:00] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: :)
[05:00] <spiffman> timsandtoms: .rpm is for redhat linux, like fedora. ubuntu uses .deb package files, that's why you have to use alien to convert the .rpm to .deb
[05:00] <AdioHyperion> tixer... are they showing up using sudo fdisk -l
[05:01] <usser> Tixer, how do u figure?
 a terminal, if that yeild nothing, you could try "apt-cace search alien"
[05:01] <AdioHyperion> -l mean lower case L
[05:01] <timsandtoms> MagickalHack: Ah, ok, thanks :)
[05:01] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[05:01] <timsandtoms> spiffman: Oh, ok, thanks
[05:01] <Tixer> No, they don't appear there.. they're USB sata drives.
[05:01] <AdioHyperion> btw tx brian
[05:01] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: no worries mate
[05:01] <timsandtoms> jimbo: yeh, it worked. How do i install it?
[05:02] <brianw_> AdioHyperion: now help me get bluetooth PAN working w/ my htc ppc6800 phone :)
[05:02] <darkentity> nevermind i got vuze to work
[05:02] <jimbo> apt-get install alien
[05:03] <timsandtoms> jimbo: Ok, awesome, thanks
[05:03] <spiffman> so i'm on a dell vostro 200, 64 bit gutsy... it seems my cd-dvd drive does everything except for write files and can't even recognize blank cd-r's.. how do i start toubleshooting?
[05:03] <Tixer> so does anyone have any idea why my drives won't mount?
[05:03] <spiffman> ....by troubleshooting... i mean.. "where to begin?"
[05:04] <jimbo>  <timsandtoms>i'd try the redhat rpm first, if i were you
[05:04] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[05:04] <timsandtoms> jimbo: Ok. Out of curiosity, why that particular one?
[05:04] <Creationist> How do I adjust the resolution used by GDM?  It's completely different from my normal resolution and distorted.
 I think the tool was intended to install that distrobution's software
[05:05] <usser> Creationist, in xorg
[05:06] <matt5> Hi, I'm giving my friend my laptop -- I'd like to do a rough clean-up, to sort of erase my private files and all. Any tips on how I could do it easily/fast, please?
[05:06] <Creationist> usser: Where in xorg?
[05:06] <spiffman> timsandtoms: "maya on ubuntu" in google gives you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66859
[05:06] <timsandtoms> jimbo: Oh, ok, makes sense :) Redhats stuff will work fine on ubuntu 7.10 probably?
[05:06] <usser> Creationist, find the section with resolutions and find the line that starts with 24 and put whatever resolution u use first
[05:06] <timsandtoms> spiffman: Ok, thanks, ill go read that
[05:07] <usser> Creationist, gdm picks up the first resolution it sees
[05:07] <Creationist> usser: Gotcha.. thank you.
[05:08] <spiffman> just curious, i'm not hip to all the jargon yet, gdm = gnome desktop manager?
[05:08] <riotkittie> no. Gnome Display Manager, spiffman
[05:08] <spiffman> ah, close :P
[05:08] <riotkittie> no wait.
[05:08] <riotkittie> maybe i'm wrong. :shuts up and goes away:
[05:08] <spiffman> haha
[05:08] <Tixer> I have two files in /dev, USBdev1.1_epXX, what are they.
[05:08] <FireHazard17> !flash | FireHazard17
[05:08] <riotkittie> no i'm right. ;>
[05:09] <spiffman> cool, mentally noted
[05:09] <riotkittie> it's like, the login screen.
[05:09] <Helmi> hey all - my startup procedure with gnome is a mess. i'd like to tidy this a bit. what are the places where changes could be made for "gnome autostart" except the sessions in the system menu?
[05:09] <riotkittie> and everything else, i guess.
[05:09] <Evilsss> Hi
[05:09] <WorkingOnWise> does apt save to /var/cache/apt/archives every deb I have installed?
[05:10] <spiffman> gotcha
[05:10] <riotkittie> WorkingOnWise: ls it and find out? :P
[05:10] <FireHazard17> WorkingOnWise: I am almost certain
[05:10] <riotkittie> but i'd say yes. it does.
[05:11] <AdioHyperion> linux is TICKING ME OFF
[05:11] <command0-182> For some reason synaptic can't connect to the web, but I know I'm online
[05:11] <Creationist> usser: That didn't do it.  There's a line just above the resolution modes though that says "virtual"   Is that the one I need to change?
[05:11] <AdioHyperion> i del a partition and make a new one and none of the file are gone!!!!
[05:11] <spiffman> can anyone help me figure out why my cd-dvd doesn't recognize blank disks? and henceforth k3b "cannot find a cd-dvd writer"?
[05:12] <timsandtoms> comman0-182: Open up Add/Remove and go to properties and make sure the boxes are checked to let ya download
[05:12] <command0-182> When I connect to the web, I can browse 'n stuff but when I go to update my repositories it says that the connection was refused
[05:12] <AdioHyperion> brian are you still there?
[05:12] <Palintheus> AdioHyperion: what did you use to delete the partition?
[05:12] <AdioHyperion> cfdisk
[05:12] <WorkingOnWise> riotkittie: I am looking as Disk Usage Analyzer and it shows  /var/cache/apt/archives has 2205 files in it consuming 2.6GB! how can I purge that? I have already installed all them! I sure don't need them burning disk space!
[05:12] <AnYoNeSNM> hello
[05:12] <CyberMad> i would like to install virtual machine at ubuntu, but i confuse to choose between VMware-server or VirtualBox, which one do you recommend ?
[05:12]  * Creationist has never heard of cfdisk
[05:12] <Palintheus> me either
[05:13] <command0-182> I can see the repository ftp in my browser, but why can't synaptic or update-manter see it
[05:13] <spiffman> command0-182: did you try updating/upgrading synaptic?
[05:13] <AnYoNeSNM> animore used asterisk ?
[05:13] <Creationist> CyberMad: VirtualBox is the easiest to configure and use.  VMWare is more robust.
[05:13] <Creationist> CyberMad: What are you trying to do?
[05:13] <command0-182> how do u upgrade synaptic
[05:13] <Shadow147> CyberMad I have never used virutalbox but vmware is good but I would go with virtualbox
[05:14] <MagickalHack> Do xD cards work with Ubuntu?
[05:14] <Creationist> command0-182: Run sudo apt-get update
[05:14] <Palintheus> command0-182: what error are you getting? can you use apt-get?
[05:14] <Palintheus> MagickalHack: if the card reader is supported
[05:14] <spiffman> Creationist: that's aptitude, not synaptic
[05:14] <CyberMad> Creationist i want to set up some virtual machine with Windows XP OS (genuine), then i enable the Remote Desktop feature
[05:14] <Shadow147> MagickalHack they should
[05:14] <MagickalHack> ENE 5-in-1
[05:14] <Creationist> spiffman: Uhm, it will still update the repositories for Synaptic.
[05:14] <command0-182> no I can't use apt-get it says it couldn't connect to the repositories
[05:14] <Palintheus> google is your friend MagickalHack i have no idea if its supported ;)
[05:14] <timsandtoms> For Maya, the guide you gave me says I need to copy the RPMs and then convert them. When I copy them, it says cannot be copied because I dont have the permissions to read it
[05:14] <mengzihan> Hello
[05:15] <WorkingOnWise> Shadow147: y do u recomend VB over VMware?
[05:15] <Creationist> CyberMad: Then VirtualBox is definitely the way to go.
[05:15] <CyberMad> so, in office almost of computers use Ubuntu as desktop OS, then sometime we need to access software at windows
[05:15] <spiffman> Creationist: ok... gotcha :S, i'm learning!
[05:15] <Palintheus> command0-182: what error specifically, have you tried using a different mirror?
[05:15] <command0-182> It just gives my a long list of all the repositories and says 111 connection refused
[05:15] <CyberMad> example: we need to do AutoCAD, Microsoft Office 2007
[05:15] <pgan> Is it possible to resize a FAT32 partition without losing the data that is on it?
[05:15] <Creationist> spiffman: Synaptic is just a GUI that uses apt-get.
[05:15] <command0-182> I've tried the main mirror and the US mirror
[05:16] <Shadow147> CyberMad I have used Vmware it's configuration process is a pain in the ass
[05:16] <Les_Caesars> pgan: as much as I know, there shouldn't be any problem at all
[05:16] <CyberMad> Does VirtualBox, support auto start? i mean auto start the virtual box, and all defined guest OS (XP)
[05:16] <Palintheus> pgan: if it was a windows partition defrag several times prior to resizing
[05:16] <Shadow147> I might try virtualbox myself
[05:16] <CyberMad> so no need to start it manually
[05:16] <usser> Shadow147, not really its not that hard
[05:16] <spiffman> Creationist: oh! that makes sense, i thought there were two different package managers
[05:16] <Creationist> CyberMad: It can be done, but I've never tried it.
[05:16] <CyberMad> actually i want install it on ubuntu-server, so there is no XWindow or graphical interface
[05:16] <pgan> Can it be done with parted or fdisk?
[05:16] <Creationist> spiffman: Nope.  Even in KDE (Kubuntu) you use Adept for the GUI package manager.  But that too actually uses apt-get ;)
[05:17] <WorkingOnWise> CyberMad: I use VB...love it, but it is No Good At All for any kind of 3d work.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> pgan,  not with fdisk. parted, or gparted can.
[05:17] <Palintheus> pgan: can what be done defragging or resizing the partition?
[05:17] <spiffman> Creationist: so what does add-remove programs do differently from synaptic, other than look nicer?
[05:17] <CyberMad> btw, how to configure / install the guest os? on vmware use vmware console,... hmmm how about virtualbox ?
[05:17] <Shadow147> CyberMad which VMware may work with
[05:17] <command0-182> This is what it says what I use "Update Manger" ; "Could not download all repository indexes
[05:17] <AdioHyperion> would some one help me!!! i have spent two freakin days trying to format this dam hard drive to ext
[05:17] <command0-182> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences."
[05:17] <dion> greetings, how can i get my virtualbox to allow online games, it lets me use internet fine for browsing
[05:17] <Creationist> spiffman: Add/Remove just is a simpler interface... nothing more.  It, too, uses apt-get underneath ;)
[05:17] <timsandtoms> For Maya, the guide someone gave me to install it says I need to copy the RPMs and then convert them. When I copy them, it says cannot be copied because I dont have the permissions to read it. what do i do?
[05:17] <Les_Caesars> Even though I have wine installed, when I double click on .exe's, I get this popup telling me to rename the file to *.exe and/or use "open with"
[05:17] <Shadow147> !vmware
[05:17] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:18] <spiffman> Creationist: thanks!
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  with wine. i find it often better to use the terminal 'wine /path/to/whatever.exe'  In case any error messages are generated.
[05:18] <Shadow147> CyberMad | !vmware
[05:18] <pgan> Palintheus: both, I guess. What can I use in Linux to defrag?
[05:18] <Palintheus> AdioHyperion: I have never used cfdisk, you can try a different partition manager, qparted or similar
[05:18] <Palintheus> pgan: not sure never had to do it in linux
[05:18] <CyberMad> Shadow147 well, i already successfull setup vmware-server with 1 XP as guest os and it can autostart, but after do some google looks like many people recommend VirtualBox than VMware, that's why i need second opinion from #ubuntu
[05:18] <WorkingOnWise> CyberMad: I use Ubuntu 7.10 as host, WinXP Home as guest for Offive 2007 enterprise. I give the vm 512MB of ram and 64mb of video ram. I do this on a turion x2 1.6 and 1GB ram....it is reasonably useful but I would rather do it with 4GB
[05:18] <brad016> how do I unpack .nrg files
[05:18] <riotkittie> pgan: what are you wanting to defrag?
[05:18] <Creationist> CyberMad: If you install Virtual Box, trust me.... the setup is incredibly simple.  It walks you through the entire process of setting up your guest OSes
[05:19] <AdioHyperion> i tried to use parted but no one would tell me how to figure out the start and end
[05:19] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 on one laptop computer (5 s after the first) INIT process a second one but not on my second laptop computer?
[05:19] <dion> thanx
[05:19] <AdioHyperion> people get me started on something then never respond!
[05:19] <AnYoNeSNM> hello
[05:19] <spiffman> lol
[05:19] <anggarda> Good Day, #ubuntu. Could anyone recommend me a method to back up whole disk drives to tape.
[05:19] <AnYoNeSNM> somebody used asterisk ?
[05:19] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: well, I'm willing to turn a deaf ear for the convenience of having the computer do what I expected when I double-click a file
[05:20] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  it all depends on what you want to do. the start is the cylinder # you want to begin at.. and end is where you want to stop.  Gpartd is a nice gui front end to  ease your partitioning tasks.
[05:20] <CyberMad> Creationist ok, the important question.. anyway i don't really care about the difficulty about installation. How about the performance? stability? does VirtualBox is the winner?
[05:20] <Creationist> anggarda: They still make tape drives? ll
[05:20] <webpirate> hello all...
[05:20] <pgan> riotkittie: a  formatted in FAT32, which has valuable data on it
[05:20] <Les_Caesars> how do I go about getting rid of the error?
[05:20] <CyberMad> if yes, then i'll go to VirtualBox and remove the vmware
[05:20] <webpirate> does anyone have any Ideas to to lower CPU usage for DVD playback on nvidia 420 go
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  problem i find with double clicking on .exe's is that often wine will crash or report some error and peopel end up just sitting there  staring at the screen. :)
[05:20] <DG19075> I'm running Adobe Audition 1.5 under Wine, and notice th transport buttons don't fill their squares as they do under Windows.  I have Wine mimicking XP. Anyone have this problem?
[05:20] <CyberMad> because it will run 24/7
[05:20] <AnYoNeSNM> win95 its some thing :)
[05:20] <AnYoNeSNM> the bets ting.
[05:20] <Creationist> CyberMad: I never was able to get vmware going so I gave up and went to VirtualBox.  I never had ANY performance issues with WinXP.... however, I've had a LOT of trouble running Linux as a guest OS.
[05:20] <AnYoNeSNM> life win95
[05:21] <webpirate> I used to use about 10% cpu before formating now ubuntu wants 40
[05:21] <AnYoNeSNM> format c: ? ;)
[05:21] <WorkingOnWise> CyberMad: for me, xp is able...just slow.hurt for ram when runnung any Office app, but is still st
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  i normally test out a program in wine from the terminal, then if it works i make a script that launches it.  then i can always click on the script. or run the script from a terminal.
[05:21] <CyberMad> Creationist well, i use the XP too..
[05:21] <Agent> i have a warzone2100 game when i load a game is crashs, how do i fix it ?
[05:21] <Shadow147> I had no problem running linux under vmwaree
[05:21] <command0-182> For some reason I haven't been able to access any of my repositories "http://archive.ubuntu.com/" & "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/"
[05:21] <anggarda> Creationist, yes tape drives are very much alive and well in any organisations which are sarbanes-oxley compliant
[05:21] <infinitycircuit> does anyone know if a kernel being compiled to optimize battery life on a laptop should use a kernel with preemption enabled or with preemption disabled?
[05:21] <Creationist> Shadow147: I can't even load the Ubuntu Live CD ISO in VirtualBox...
[05:22] <CyberMad> ok, thanks a lot for discussion.. i will test it right now
[05:22] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: well fortunately, that's not a problem I care about. The popups shouldn't be coming up anyway. They basically say "this doesn't have .exe at the end, so I won't run it" even though the files do.
[05:22] <command0-182> Any reason why Synaptic can't connect to the web
[05:22] <Dr_willis> ive had lots of issues testing out live cd's in virtualbox.
[05:22] <webpirate> what is the average CPU usage on 420 go?
[05:22] <command0-182> Any reason why Synaptic can't connect to the web?
[05:22] <DM|> Creationist how much ram do u have dedicated to the Vbox?
[05:22] <CyberMad> just download the http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.2/virtualbox_1.5.2-25433_Ubuntu_gutsy_i386.deb  right?  then dpkg -i virtualbox_1.5.2-25433_Ubuntu_gutsy_i386.deb   ??
[05:22] <Creationist> DM|: I've tried 256 and 512
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  is the .exe in LOWER case? never noticed  if thats an issue or not. but linux is case senestive.
[05:22] <DM|> Creationist tried a different disk?
[05:22] <AdioHyperion> i am assuming start would be 1 right?
[05:22] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first a second INIT process but not on my second laptop computer?
[05:22] <riotkittie> command0-182: have you tried different repos? your preferred repo may be down ... or ...
[05:23] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: it is lower cased. Let me try other cases to see if that changes anything.
[05:23] <Creationist> DM|: I've tried several different distros.... none will load
[05:23] <AdioHyperion> what is the end point?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  or 0 normally you just hit enter and it selects the end
[05:23] <Palintheus> command0-182: can you run 'sudo apt-get update' and pastebin the output?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  at least thats how fdisk normally works.
[05:23] <webpirate> can different versions of libdvdcss use more CPU?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  assuming you want the whole disk.
[05:23] <DM|> Creationist , i dedicated 256 ram to a Vbox for live CD and it runs great for me, so .. im thinking u have bad CDs,
[05:23] <Creationist> CyberMad: VirtualBox is in the Ubuntu repos.  sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[05:23] <DM|> or a REALLY slow pc
[05:23] <CyberMad> wow.. the VirtualBox is very small.. compare to vmware > 100MB
[05:23] <Agent> who here can tell me why warzone2100 game crashs when loading a game ?
[05:24] <Creationist> DM|: I use the ISOs, not actual CDs
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> i put 0 for start and when i leave end blank
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> it just goes to the next line
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> end?
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> end?
[05:24] <Palintheus> Agent: depends on what error its giving you
[05:24] <CyberMad> Creationist ahh.. ok, better use apt-get install ;) easy to remove
[05:24] <DM|> creationist replace CD with ISO and could still have the same problem
[05:24] <CyberMad> if something problem come
[05:24] <matthewpoer> I'm attempting to connect my Etch system to my blackberry, but it seems impossible to pair the devices together. I have set the passkey in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf as well as /etc/bluetooth/pin. Still they cannot connect.
[05:24] <idiosync> how to run as root
[05:24] <DM|> Creationist what specs are u running
[05:24] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  you using cfdisk? or fdis? or what exactly?
[05:24] <Creationist> !sudo | idiosync
[05:24] <ubotu> idiosync: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: aha! that was indeed the problem. Ok. now I want to associate every possible combination of .ExE to wine by hand. Where do I go to associate file suffixes with programs?
[05:24] <DM|> idiosync I will tell you, but what for?
[05:24] <AdioHyperion> i am using parted
[05:24] <anggarda> anyone, with experience of backing up whole partitions to tape?
[05:24] <Agent> Palintheus:is doesn't give a error it just showdown the game.
[05:25] <Creationist> DM|: Oh crap, yeah... I should have asked him that first.
[05:25] <Palintheus> Agent: you can run it from a terminal to see if it will spit out an error there
[05:25] <AdioHyperion> unless you can walk me step by step through something else
[05:25] <DM|> Creationist :)
[05:25] <Agent> Palintheus:remind me how to do that.
[05:25] <CyberMad> do you know what is file manager, but i can do management file (backup, restore, etc) as root ?
[05:26] <DM|> bbl
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  No idea on that. :) i tend to just lowercase my files.. of course i onlyu have  a few .exe's i ever use.
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Les_Caesars,  at least you found the main issue.
[05:26] <matt5> Hi, I'd like to do a rough clean-up, to sort of erase my private files and all (as I'm "donating" the laptop). Any tips on how I could do it easily/fast via command-line, please?
[05:26] <Palintheus> Agent: find out what command the launcher runs, then open a terminal and run the command
[05:26] <WorkingOnWise> how can I purge the apt cache?
[05:26] <command0-182> Okay I ran "sudo apt-get update" and this is what it says; http://pastebin.com/m7b572f1c
[05:26] <Les_Caesars> Dr_willis: Yup, and thanks for that
[05:26] <AdioHyperion> please help!
[05:26] <usser> WorkingOnWise, just sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archive
[05:27] <Creationist> command0-182: Man, you screwed something up bad.
[05:27] <timsandtoms> command0-182: Go into Add/Remove or Synaptic or w/e, and check all the boxes to let you download from all the different sources
[05:27] <usser> WorkingOnWise, just sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archive/*
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[05:27] <Palintheus> command0-182: it looks like its trying to connect to a port on your own computer vs an outside url
[05:27] <usser> WorkingOnWise, sorry the last one
[05:27] <Palintheus> not sure though
[05:27] <timsandtoms> command0-182: I had the same problem, same results, yesterday
[05:27] <usser> WorkingOnWise, theres a dir in archive called partial that will get deleted
[05:28] <usser> WorkingOnWise, so u need to do sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archive/partial
[05:28] <ridge-meister> is there any software on linux that can take a movie file and produce thumbnails from it?
[05:28] <WorkingOnWise> usser: apt will not freak if I do that? I need the disk space back.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> AdioHyperion,  if you are just making new parittions. on a new hd. fdisk, or cfdisk will do that task easy.. Parted has a lot of extra/power user features you proberly dont need. In fact ive never used parted from the command line. Just with gparted.
[05:28] <weltschmerz> how do i change the sound device in pulse audio?  it's trying to use the usb instead of the default pci device.
[05:28] <command0-182> "command0-182: Go into Add/Remove or Synaptic or w/e, and check all the boxes to let you download from all the different sources" - I have the boxes for different sources checked
[05:28] <Creationist> ridge-meister: As in, jpg thumbnails?  Or in your file browser?
[05:28] <usser> WorkingOnWise, yes it will, it'll complain that partial is missing
[05:28] <spiffman> can anyone point me to a solution for a cd-dvd drive that won't let me write to cd's, nor recognize blank disks? i know i asked already... if not i'll check back later
[05:29] <usser> WorkingOnWise, but after u mkdir it back all should be fine
[05:29] <ridge-meister> Creationist: not sure what you meant by "in your file browser".  but, yeah, jpg's would be great
[05:29] <timsandtoms> command0-182: ah, ok then. that fixed it for me, so i dunno
[05:29] <zandos> hey all.. how goes it
[05:29] <whatshisname> using ubuntu studio.. was wondering about a quick way to restore the default gnome panel layout..
[05:29] <punsad> curious as to what irc client people are using in ubuntu
[05:29] <WorkingOnWise> usser: ty. Y is all the debs I have already installed still there? Seems a waste of space?
[05:29] <Palintheus> punsad: irssi
[05:30] <Creationist> ridge-meister: Only thing I can think of is to run the movie, take a screenshot, and resize it.  I'm not sure if there's an automated application.
[05:30] <usser> WorkingOnWise, actually hang on a sec dont do it
[05:30] <zandos> pidgin/xchat
[05:30] <spiffman> whatshisname: delete your configuration file... maybe ~/.gconf/desktop
[05:30] <usser> WorkingOnWise, ah no go ahead it works i just tried it
[05:30] <whatshisname> thanks, spiffman, i'll try that..
[05:31] <weltschmerz> how do i choose my audio device with pulseaudio?
[05:31] <zandos> anyone here have a synaptics touchpad on their ubuntu (gutsy) laptop?
[05:31] <WorkingOnWise> usser: doin it now...  :)
[05:31] <punsad> Palintheus: is irssi curses based?
[05:31] <Palintheus> punsad: curses ::shrug:: irssi.org
[05:31] <Dr_willis> irssi has a cli/ncurses interface i beliuve.
[05:32] <usser> WorkingOnWise, i donnu its probably done so that u wont have to download heavy stuff over the net all over again if later u decided to do reisntall
[05:32] <pgan> I have an external hard disk for backing up data from ext3 partitions and sometimes accessing it on Windows.  What file system would you recommend?
[05:32] <zandos> i'll take that as a no
[05:32] <peepsalot> does anyone know what this means during an apt-get package install: "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" ?
[05:32] <punsad> pgan: what's the processor/speed/ram?
[05:32] <usser> pgan, its pretty safe to go with ntfs now
[05:32] <Dr_willis> pgan,  windows can read/write ext2/3 with a add on tool.. but it all depends on what OS is going to be accessing it the most and what sort of data.
[05:33] <ridge-meister> Creationist, i'm no developer, but that would be a GREAT application for someone to create
[05:33] <Palintheus> peepsalot: no, but I have noticed its new since gutsy(iirc)
[05:33] <WorkingOnWise> usser: I guess that makes sense...but I have not neede to reinstall anything on Ubuntu, except to update, ever  :)
[05:33] <Creationist> ridge-meister: I only see a use for such a thing in the porn industry..
[05:33] <Creationist> ridge-meister: But good luck with that lol
[05:33] <command0-182> Under Choose a Download Server I selected the Select Best Server and it told me that it could not find the internet
[05:33] <usser> WorkingOnWise, :)
[05:33] <punsad> pgan: I'm using a 10 year old linux server with backuppc and have had less problems for some reason with ext2 than ext3 (it's a 400MHz system with 256MB ram)
[05:33] <peepsalot> Palintheus, apt-get often hangs after displaying this line
[05:34] <Palintheus> yeah briefly but haven't really looked into it
[05:34] <punsad> I've *never* had apt-get hang on me.
[05:35] <WorkingOnWise> usser: but in Windows, there have been times that the setup cd stayed in the drive for weeks  :D
[05:35] <soldats> crazy since apt-get is insanely fast
[05:35] <command0-182> Dose anyone know how I can fix this; http://pastebin.com/m7b572f1c
[05:35] <punsad> does anyone remember dselect?
[05:35] <bruenig> apt-get is not insanely fast
[05:35] <punsad> I loved that program
[05:35] <usser> WorkingOnWise, hah i forgot already what its like to use windows
[05:35] <peepsalot> Palintheus, it doesn't hang briefly for me.  it hangs indefinitely
[05:35] <pgan> Dr_willis: it will be mostly accessed on Linux, but I would want to be able to give it to someone who uses Windows to access the data. It would be better to go without installing a program on the Windows machine
[05:35] <Agent> Palintheus:first i type command warzone2100 it launches the game. then i get this error "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46310/plain/"
[05:36] <weltschmerz> how do i choose the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:36] <peepsalot> bruenig, IME it is comapred to yum
[05:36] <Palintheus> Agent: can you pastebin the dump file?
[05:36] <punsad> dselect was great.  it was my first introduction to the power of debian
[05:36] <bruenig> everything is faster than yum
[05:36] <peepsalot> hehe
[05:36] <Dr_willis> pgan,  then use ntfs.. but accessing ntfs can have little issues here and there. Like  not very easy to set up different permissions, and ownership. But if its just a mp3 shared disk or simieler. shouldent matter much.
[05:37] <usser> command0-182, wow weird stuff
[05:37] <WorkingOnWise> usser: I must still run it for some things, but now as a virtual machine, in it's own sandbox so if it doesn't play nice, I stil have a workstation!
[05:37] <Silmeria> so anyway, i still cant get my screen to go full screen :(
[05:37] <usser> command0-182, do host host us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:37] <pgan> usser: are soft links, hard links and file permissions supported under NTFS?
[05:37] <usser> pgan, probably not
[05:37] <usser> pgan, :(
[05:37] <Silmeria> my display isnt using my entire moniter, theres black all around the edges. how do i fix this :(?
[05:37] <soldats> bruenig, its a lot faster than anything else ive ever used
[05:38] <usser> command0-182, just one host there sorry
[05:38] <command0-182> Can anyone help with this problem? My Synaptic and Update Manager can't connect to the web ;http://pastebin.com/m7b572f1c
[05:38] <WorkingOnWise> any ideas y System Monitor shows 3.2GB free but only 2.6 available?  I thought free was available!!
[05:38] <bruenig> soldats, try pacman on arch
[05:38] <soldats> Silmeria, can you adjust your monitor with the buttons on the case
[05:38] <command0-182> k
[05:38] <usser> command0-182, do host us.archive.ubuntu.com pastebin the output
[05:38] <Silmeria> soldats: i dont think so....
[05:38] <bruenig> or even netpkg on zenwalk which is bash for crying out loud
[05:38] <Agent> Palintheus:i can, "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46311/plain/"
[05:38] <Silmeria> soldats:  no there arent any buttons for moniter on teh case
[05:39] <soldats> Silmeria, hmm most monitors let you do that you should have some buttons on the front or the side
[05:39] <usser> WorkingOnWise, memory?
[05:39] <Silmeria> soldats: it works fine in 7.10 but i installed 7.04
[05:39] <Csaba> anyone using brasero here?
[05:39] <weltschmerz> how do i set the device for pulseaudio to use?
[05:39] <Silmeria> soldats: in screen resolution i only get two options as well
[05:39] <Silmeria> 800x600 and some other low option
[05:39] <peepsalot> is there a way to make firefox ask the download location for each file download?
[05:40] <soldats> bruenig, ahh i never used arch yet so i would be unsure of it sorry i was just merely making a statement because apt-get is a lot faster than using synaptic
[05:40] <Palintheus> sorry Agent can't help with that you may post to the forums and upload both of the pastebins then hope someone can help
[05:40] <command0-182> Here's what I got; http://pastebin.com/m12dd8e3c
[05:40] <usser> peepsalot, in edit-preferences main tab tick ask where to save downloaded files
[05:40] <WorkingOnWise> usser: isn't that what the swap partition is for?
[05:40] <Palintheus> peepsalot: yes its edit > prefs > main
[05:41] <soldats> Silmeria, you may need to run the command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and configure it there
[05:41] <Agent> Palintheus:thank you for trying but am not going to that much.:-*
[05:41] <soldats> Silmeria, you can  choose other resolutions
[05:41] <bruenig> soldats, oh faster than synaptic you say, I thought you were saying objectively that it was a really fast package manager. Of course it would be faster than synaptic seeing as synaptic is just a front end for apt-get and all but yeah, no harm.
[05:41] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first INIT process a second one but none on my second laptop computer?
[05:41] <usser> WorkingOnWise, yes but swap partition is slow so if theres available memory programs swap into physical memory
[05:41] <Silmeria> soldats: you mean with that command?
[05:42] <usser> WorkingOnWise, or so i've been lead to beieve
[05:42] <soldats> bruenig, ha its just a misunderstanding i didnt properly state my whole claim
[05:42] <soldats> Silmeria, yea
[05:42] <command0-182> I did the "host us.archive.ubuntu.com" in a terminal here's what I got; http://pastebin.com/m12dd8e3c
[05:42] <usser> command0-182, im sorry its not what i thought it was, i dont know what happens there
[05:42] <soldats> Silmeria, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in terminal
[05:43] <weltschmerz>  how do you set the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:43] <Silmeria> woa
[05:43] <Silmeria> i am
[05:43] <Silmeria> but its asking for x server driver
[05:43] <WorkingOnWise> usser: well, my system has breathing room again so I'm not gonna fret ovet it. Thanks 4 the help.
[05:43] <usser> WorkingOnWise, np glad to help
[05:43] <soldats> Silmeria, most options should just be default until you get to the resolution part then hit spacebar on the selections you want
[05:44] <Silmeria> i am doing it in terminal
[05:44] <soldats> Silmeria, yea
[05:44] <Silmeria> tehre is no default, it was blank
[05:44] <soldats> press enter on blank
[05:44] <Silmeria> it brought the line back up again
[05:44] <soldats> it should default itself
[05:44] <Silmeria> asking for it again
[05:45] <soldats> Silmeria, hmm this is how i fixed my problem which was similar to your but have you tried google "no offense"
[05:45] <Silmeria> i have.
[05:46] <Silmeria> im not exactly sure what to type in the seach though
[05:46] <Silmeria> search*
[05:46] <soldats> Silmeria, what brand monitor do you have
[05:46] <Silmeria> oh its a laptop
[05:46] <Silmeria> guess i should have said that >
[05:46] <Silmeria> ><*
[05:46] <soldats> Silmeria, ooh than i am really unsure of what to do
[05:46] <Silmeria> alirght thanks, sorry i cant believe i forgot to say that
[05:47] <soldats> Silmeria, i rarely use laptops because i am broke and cant afford one
[05:47] <command0-182> Where's the sources list located?
[05:47] <soldats> Silmeria, from what ive used i think most screens on laptops have a black border around them
[05:47] <IanLiu> Why my Ubuntu stucks when I press the On/Off button (at top, right corner)?
[05:48] <soldats> i didnt know ubuntu had an on/off button
[05:48] <IanLiu> it freezes everything, so I must CTRL + ALT + Backspace to re-login to shut down ubuntu...
[05:48] <Palintheus> command0-182: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <soldats> IanLiu, sometimes on slow machines when you "click" shotdown it stalls
[05:49] <Csaba> if im installing a theme from a temp directory, are the files in use getting copied elsewere?
[05:49] <soldats> IanLiu, at least thats how i experienced it
[05:49] <Csaba> can i delete the temp dir when im done is what im asking
[05:49] <IanLiu> That is annoying... every time I press the shut down button, Ubuntu freezes..
[05:49] <Boogedy> G'daay
[05:49] <underwatercow> Can someone please tell me how to print out the sound card id's on the command line? (like, my revolution should is "ice1724"
[05:50] <underwatercow> be*
[05:50] <soldats> IanLiu, maybe try doing it in the terminal
[05:50] <fitztrev> underwatercow: lspci
[05:50] <IanLiu> what should I do in terminal?
[05:50] <soldats> shutdown -h now
[05:50] <weltschmerz>  how do you set the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:50] <IanLiu> hmm
[05:50] <underwatercow> fitztrev: How do I find it from the list?
[05:51] <fitztrev> underwatercow: try this one.. it'll give you more info: "sudo lspci -v"
[05:52] <underwatercow> fitztrev: it's still not finding "ice1724"
[05:52] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first INIT process a second one but none on my second laptop computer?
[05:54] <ToddEDM> hey guys, is there a program like limewire that i can get , just to get a few single songs?
[05:54] <underwatercow> what about limewire?
[05:54] <underwatercow> lol
[05:54] <Boogedy> ToddEDM, you can get limewire
[05:54] <ToddEDM> something easy, as i just get a few songs a month
[05:54] <ToddEDM> Boogedy:  whats the command
[05:54] <Boogedy> Todd, you will need java first
[05:55] <Flannel> !frostwire | ToddEDM
[05:55] <ubotu> ToddEDM: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:55] <CyberMad> where is website that have log of this conversation?
[05:55] <weltschmerz>  how do you set the audio device in pulseaudio?
[05:55] <Palintheus> CyberMad: Im not sure #ubuntu is logged to a website
[05:55] <fitztrev> CyberMad: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:55] <ere4si> !log
[05:55] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[05:56] <cafuego> Is there ayone running php5 on feisty who has been getting segfaults in PHP since the security update this morning?
[05:56] <CyberMad> thanks.. i ask a question few minutes ago, but my PC crash.. so i need to see the answer
[05:57] <ToddEDM> !java
[05:57] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:57] <neil_d> I have a back & white logo jpeg I would like to convert it to postscript is there an easy way to do this ?
[05:58] <Shadow147> !jpeg to ps
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jpeg to ps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <Shadow147> neil_d just get a picture editor that can make .ps files
[05:59] <Dr_willis> gimp can do that cant it?
[05:59] <Shadow147> ok go ahead and try gimp
[06:00] <Shadow147> you can even you xpaint
[06:00] <Shadow147> use*
[06:01] <CyberMad> looks like the ubuntu irc log not up-to-date..
[06:01] <CyberMad> well i decide.. to re-ask my question:
[06:02] <CyberMad> what is the best file manager on ubuntu, so i can move files from user's directory to other.. i need file manager that can sudo or login as root
[06:02] <CyberMad> or su
[06:02] <soldats> why not use the default
[06:02] <Dr_willis> CyberMad,  i tend to use 'mc' for my rooty stuff. :) since its also useable from the shell and over ssh. easially
[06:03] <Palintheus> CyberMad: alt-f2 > gksudo nautilus
[06:03] <CyberMad> Dr_willis does mc graphical user interface or need terminal ?
[06:03] <psycore> kiba dock does not dock on my taskbar instead in stay on-top of it. how to solve?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> CyberMad,  sudo mc, do what needs to be done.. and close it out. :) using the gui file maager.. can.. cause issues.. if you forget which file manager window was started with root access.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> CyberMad,  mc is a text based/ncurses interface.
[06:03] <CyberMad> thanks all.. i'll test thema all
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[06:03] <sahil> where can i get the alpha 1 for hardy heron
[06:03] <Dr_willis> mc is darn handy at times. :P
[06:04] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2058 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[06:04] <kakoonia> psycore: use avant-window-navigator , its better! using less memory also..
[06:05] <psycore> kakoonia: where do I get it? can u give me the code? (noob here, just switch to linux 2 days ago)
[06:06] <Palintheus> Dr_willis: the icons are different on the root file manager you open, you can also set a different background color so that it will look drastically different, at least thats what I do
[06:07] <harushimo> some how my update manager how would be able to fix it
[06:07] <harushimo> I know its sudo apt-get install: but the last part I'm not able to get
[06:08] <soldats> Palintheus, doesnt it usually say root at the top anyways
[06:08] <Palintheus> never paid attention
[06:08] <Palintheus> just set a different theme to make absolutely sure
[06:08] <soldats> ahh mine says that
[06:08] <Palintheus> ::shrug::
[06:08] <kakoonia> psycore : try http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=A_Visual_Install_Guide#Ubuntu
[06:08] <soldats> im not in the same situation but thats how i usually tell its root
[06:08] <psycore> kakoonia: thanks
[06:09] <Palintheus> yes, for the record mine says root
[06:09] <kakoonia> np
[06:09] <Dr_willis> Palintheus,  i see people in here all the time that want root's stuff to have the same theme as their user.:)   i normally set root to have a BRIGHT RED theme.
[06:09] <Palintheus> HA! me too!!
[06:09] <Palintheus> kind says "WARNING"
[06:09] <Palintheus> *kind of
[06:09] <harushimo> fix it
[06:10] <soldats> harushimo, what exactly do you need
[06:11] <harushimo> soldats: how do you uninstall a package
[06:11] <soldats> harushimo, apt-get remove "app"
[06:11] <soldats> apt-get autoremove "app" *******
[06:11] <Boogedy> or use add/remove in the app menu
[06:11] <bryand> can anybody help me with backupPC? I need to redirect /var/lib/backuppc to an external drive.
[06:11] <alejandro> Hello, how do i install tar.gz2 files?
[06:11] <harushimo> soldats: what if it wasn't done through apt-get
[06:11] <soldats> alejandro, you need to compile it manually
[06:12] <soldats> harushimo, doesnt matter
[06:12] <alejandro> soldats: how do i do that?
[06:12] <CyberMad> what is kernel headers?
[06:12] <harushimo> soldats: thanks
[06:12] <soldats> alejandro, unzip the file then untar it and read the README.txt
[06:12] <CyberMad> google said.. i need to install t
[06:13] <sir_Real> I have an external hard drive that I want to run the DOD short wipe on, it is a large HD and will take a few hours, can I do this without logging out of my computer and booting into DBAN or the like?
[06:13] <Grav3Mind> are ubuntu forums blocked here?
[06:13] <Grav3Mind> like..links to the forums
[06:13] <Csaba> whats GTK Splash for?
[06:14] <soldats> dont believe so why?
[06:14] <Grav3Mind> cause they are in #compiz
[06:14] <jayde_drag0n> can someone help me? i spent hours organizing my contacts in pidgin the way i wanted them, but it keeps forgetting them and i have to redo everything over and over again.. how do i make it stay?
[06:14] <Csaba> is it just the boot screems?
[06:14] <nickrud> Grav3Mind no, lots of people link to forum stuff. But read them with care
[06:14] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, it may be a bug
[06:14] <soldats> i have no problem with pidgin so i have no clue sorry
[06:15] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: thanks
[06:15] <jayde_drag0n> Csaba: the splash screen is what appears after you login before your desktop appears, where it loads the stuff
[06:16] <Grav3Mind> well can someone tell me if this is how i should enable compiz
[06:16] <Grav3Mind> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:16] <Csaba> ahh so on gutsy a brown screen, cheerz
[06:16] <jayde_drag0n> Csaba: well the background of it can be any color.. and splash screens you can install from gnome-look
[06:17] <Grav3Mind> is that the appropriate way to go about enableing it?
[06:17] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: if you are on gusty.. compiz is installed by default and you can enable it by going to system>prefrences>appearance
[06:17] <nickrud> Grav3Mind, for a machine that has aiglx enabled, yes.
[06:18] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  and under the last tab select normal or anyother option other than off
[06:18] <osxdude> How do I install a cursor theme???
[06:18] <soldats> mouse properties
[06:18] <soldats> ?
[06:18] <Grav3Mind> i want to be able to configure it
[06:18] <Grav3Mind> like the ccsm command doesnt work right now
[06:18] <osxdude> hmmm
[06:18] <nickrud> osxdude, untar it into /usr/share/themes I believe
[06:18] <osxdude> ah
[06:18] <osxdude> ok
[06:19] <Grav3Mind> i have "extra" selected on visual right now
[06:19] <nickrud> osxdude, or ~/.themes if you prefere
[06:19] <osxdude> ok
[06:19] <nickrud> hm, I need to be on ubuntu, brb
[06:19] <Grav3Mind> but i want to be able to use all the extra stuff other than wobbly windows
[06:19] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: you have to make sure that "advanced desktop effects" is installed.. i'm not sure of the package name at this second.. but you can google it
[06:19] <astro76> !ccsm | Grav3Mind
[06:19] <ubotu> Grav3Mind: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[06:20] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: thats the one
[06:20] <Grav3Mind> can i do that in add/remove or synap
[06:20] <Grav3Mind> ?
[06:20] <soldats> Grav3Mind, try it it wont hurt
[06:20] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  you can or just open terminal and type   sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:20] <soldats> Grav3Mind, it may work
[06:21] <Grav3Mind> thanks man
[06:21] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: girl but yw
[06:21] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, what exactly happens in pidgin
[06:21] <psycore> how to un-ignore a person in xchat?
[06:22] <soldats> psycore, no clue never ignored anyone
[06:22] <Grav3Mind> lol oh sorry thanks my lady friend XD
[06:22] <jayde_drag0n> soldats:  well it defaulty has like 15 groups.. and i only want 2... so i dragged them all into the appropriate groups .... then when i restart it... it ungroups them where i had them and readds the old deleted groups
[06:22] <Invert314> how what's the command to launch the gnome theme changer app?
[06:22] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  you are very welcome
[06:22] <Grav3Mind> yay! it works perfectly ^_^
[06:22] <psycore> omg. i accidentally ignored a fren
[06:23] <astro76> psycore, Window > Ignore List...
[06:23] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: you mean the emerald theme manager or system>prefrences> appearance?
[06:23] <Grav3Mind> oh crap...the cube effect isnt working
[06:23] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, no
[06:23] <Grav3Mind> any idea why?
[06:23] <Invert314> to change the GTK theme
[06:23] <Grav3Mind> thats th main thing i wanted lol
[06:23] <Invert314> you know the themes for the sidebars in xhcat for example
[06:23] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, mine did that once and i moved them again and it hasnt messed up lately
[06:23] <psycore> astro76: im on xchat. there's no window to click
[06:23] <astro76> psycore, the menu named Window
[06:24] <soldats> window is a drop down menu
[06:24] <Tixer_> Question: I have 2 identical drives. How can I make sure they're both mounted to the same place as previously on bootup?
[06:24] <psycore> none
[06:24] <astro76> psycore, and if you are using xchat-gnome instead of real xchat, I have no idea
[06:24] <nishiishii> alt+w
[06:24] <psycore> astro76: gnome
[06:24] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  i don't know about the themes for individual applications.. but to change the entire skin of your computer i can walk you thru both ways
[06:24] <Grav3Mind> what is the "super" key
[06:24] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: like the menu bars, the windows , the controls etc
[06:24] <Boogedy> the windows or mac key
[06:24] <soldats> windows key i think
[06:24] <Invert314> yes
[06:24] <Grav3Mind> k lol
[06:25] <psycore> Grav3Mind: window key
[06:25] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, what's the commandline command for that?
[06:25] <Grav3Mind> btw...you guys all rock
[06:25] <avtt> I found themes to make dapper look like OSX hahaha
[06:25] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:25] <Gudmunn> I am running out of this room :) I was put here by the program... yøøæææ
[06:25] <Grav3Mind> xD
[06:25] <Tixer_> how can I make sure that two completely identical drives mount at different locations?
[06:25] <psycore> astro76: im on xchat-gnome.
[06:25] <avtt> see :P http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/09/ultimate-ubuntu-dapper-look-like-osx
[06:25] <osxdude> nickrud it seems like it's not registering...do I go to the metacity theme prefs, or the mouse prefs
[06:26] <Agent> when am loading a game useing warzone2100 the game crashes, how can i fix it ?
[06:26] <robert__> hi there i am running gusty and have X running but was wondering how to get the snowy effect on the compiz???
[06:26] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  those changes are done with only 2 applications that i am aware of... the emerald theme manager .. which uses compiz and puts up a whole theme wit a click.. OR you have to use appearance... and on the first tab select the window look that is close to what you want and click customize..... THERE is where you will skin individual components for the system.. the menu bars, the window bars and the controls
[06:26] <_6StringKng_> yeah, and what happened to the aquarium effect
[06:26] <_6StringKng_> or maybe I'm missing something, I dunno
[06:27] <soldats> mmm eyecandy
[06:27] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: and you download components from places like gnome-look and untar them into the .themes folder andf .icons
[06:27] <robert__> yeah i'm missing the snowy effect from the compiz
[06:27] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: the closest i found to something like "windowblinds" for ubuntu is the emerald theme manager
[06:28] <robert__> hi there can i ask you a question?
[06:28] <_6StringKng_> just ask man
[06:28] <CoasterMaster> go ahead and ask
[06:28] <_6StringKng_> dont ask if you can
[06:28] <sir_Real> as to my earlier question about wiping an external drive... apt-get install wipe; man wipe; and wipe -kq /dev/sdb or whichever disk
[06:28] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, yes, i know how to change my emerald theme. what i need  is the command which opens the customization themer for menus, and sidebars
[06:28]  * CoasterMaster is glad he contributed at least once today
[06:28]  * _6StringKng_ I tired as well
[06:28] <Grav3Mind> jayde how can i install the emerald theme manager?
[06:28] <Invert314> emerald theme manger doesn't allow you to change the menus and sidebars
[06:28] <_6StringKng_> tried*
[06:29]  * nickrud has been away for a while, and is feeling the itch
[06:29] <imbecile> how do i determine my mac address?
[06:29] <Grav3Mind> is there a command just like for compiz?
[06:29] <osxdude> nickrud it seems like it's not registering...do I go to the metacity theme prefs, or the mouse prefs
[06:29] <Agent> yeah one more thing i thought 710 was going to be better then 704, but is the same problem i get so why the upgrade ? "be honest"
[06:29] <CoasterMaster> imbecile, type 'ifconfig' (no quotes) in a terminal
[06:29] <astro76> imbecile, ifconfig, it is the HWaddr
[06:29] <imbecile> CoasterMaster:  thanks
[06:29] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  ooooohhhh  i am stil new within ubuntu... but i really think that might be under appearance... under "customize... if its not there .. then i am at a loss
[06:29] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  hold on and i'll get that answer for you
[06:29] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, i know its there under appearance
[06:29] <Invert314> duh
[06:30] <Invert314> i need the commandline command
[06:30] <Grav3Mind> take your time jayde
[06:30] <Invert314> do you know what a commandline is?
[06:30] <CoasterMaster> imbecile, you can also do 'ifconfig | grep HWaddr' (again no quotes) to strip out all the information that isn't a MAC address
[06:30] <Tixer_> guys
[06:30] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  that i don't know... i only know how to use it within the gui
[06:30] <imbecile> CoasterMaster:  cool thanks
[06:30] <nickrud> osxdude: I was right, I needed to boot ubuntu :) It goes in /usr/share/icons , sorry
[06:30] <Tixer_> how can I have a drive always mount to a specific point
[06:30] <_6StringKng_> ntfs-config?
[06:30] <sysdrum> imbecile, "ifconfig -a" to view all network cards info
[06:30] <osxdude> ah
[06:30] <osxdude> thanks
[06:30] <Invert314> then jayde_drag0n you are wasting my time
[06:30] <Invert314> sorry
[06:31] <imbecile> thanks all :)
[06:31] <Csaba> whats a better dock, avant or simdock
[06:31] <Agent> avant
[06:31] <Csaba> thx
[06:31] <soldats> sysdrum, you need to edit fstab
[06:31] <psycore> Agent: can I install avant for gutsy on my feisty?
[06:32] <soldats> i think
[06:32] <soldats> oops wrong person sorry
[06:32] <nickrud> Tixer_: you mean so it always has the same name on your desktop?
[06:32] <Tixer_> nickrud:
[06:32] <soldats> Tixer_, edit fstab if your confortable with it
[06:33] <Tixer_> I have 2 exactly identical drives
[06:33] <robert__> ok i installed emerald on gusty but now the title of my windows is missing....i have tried changing things on emerald but there is no change
[06:33] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: try sudo apt-get install emerald-themes  (bear in mind it took em a couple of trys the first time to get the right command digging thru google)
[06:33] <Tixer_> same type, same enclosure, same stuff
[06:33] <sysdrum> ? fstab?
[06:33] <Tixer_> I need to make sure one always mounts in the same place
[06:33] <robert__> if anybody could help me that would be great
[06:33] <RobNyc> Evolution > Thunderbird yes?
[06:33] <_6StringKng_> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:33] <Tixer_> and another mounts in the other
[06:33] <soldats> sysdrum, sorry i sent it to you by mistake
[06:33] <Invert314> Does anyone know which command to launches the gnome theme manager from a Terminal?
[06:33] <Tixer_> how do I identify the drives though
[06:33] <nickrud> Tixer_: and these are usb drives?
[06:34] <sysdrum> I I was confused I haven't asked anything yet..
[06:34] <_6StringKng_> they ntfs?
[06:34] <sysdrum> it is cool..
[06:34] <Tixer_> they can be anything, I have no data on them yet and they're Linux only
[06:34] <Shadow147> usually usb drives are sdb
[06:34] <soldats> sysdrum, yea sorry i looked up and saw your name and quickly typed it without thinking
[06:34] <Tixer_> yes
[06:34] <Grav3Mind> sorry for everyone including me bugging you jade ^_^
[06:34] <Tixer_> except one is sdb, and one is sdc
[06:35] <soldats> Grav3Mind, thats what were here for
[06:35] <Tixer_> but they'll change, depending on which is mounted first
[06:35] <soldats> Tixer_, you need to give them mount points in fstab
[06:35] <CyberMad> how to search file vboxdrv.ko on / and it's subfolder
[06:35] <Tixer_> I told you, I can't, because they're identical
[06:36] <Tixer_> I need a script that runs, that creates like an alias or something
[06:36] <nickrud> Tixer_: try right clicking the desktop icon, and giving them a specific mount point each. Like 'ThisDrive' and 'ThatDrive'
[06:36] <Tixer_> hmm
[06:36] <Boogedy> w00t, just installed compiz with emerald
[06:36] <nickrud> Tixer_: you could put them into fstab if they are never unplugged
[06:36] <Tixer_> they're never going to be unplugge
[06:36] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: people are here to help... even newbies when we learn something.. i'm just trying to help out
[06:36] <Tixer_> however
[06:36] <CyberMad> i mean, how to search entire linux directory for that file?
[06:36] <n2diy> how do I clear my terminal window? Clear only clears what I'm viewing, not the whole screen?
[06:36] <Tixer_> They have to go on AFTER the OS is loaded.
[06:36] <Tixer_> not before
[06:37] <soldats> CyberMad, try in terminal "find 'name your looking for'"
[06:37] <soldats> n2diy, clear
[06:37] <Tixer_> so I need to manually turn them on
[06:37] <soldats> n2diy, click reset on the menubar
[06:37] <n2diy> soldats: try again: how do I clear my terminal window? Clear only clears what I'm viewing, not the whole screen?
[06:37] <Grav3Mind> well thanks for letting me ask you a bunch of questions none the less lol. and im still not done XD
[06:38] <n2diy> soldats: reset, where's that?
[06:38] <CyberMad> do you mean "find / vboxdrv.ko"  ?
[06:38] <soldats> click terminal and click clear and reset
[06:38] <nickrud> Tixer_: this should work, but I don't have a spare pluggable to test: unmount both, plug in one, right click the icon, select volume, and give it a distinct name. Then repeat with the next
[06:38] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: i may have an answer for you but i need to know if the theme manager IS the same exact program as "appearance"
[06:38] <astro76> n2diy, Terminal > Reset and Clear
[06:39] <soldats> CyberMad, find xvo....
[06:39] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: otherwise i've wasted your reading time again... cuz i just alunched it from terminal
[06:39] <soldats> CyberMad, not so sure though
[06:39] <Grav3Mind> hmm i ran sudo apt-get install emerald
[06:39] <Grav3Mind> then
[06:39] <Grav3Mind> sudo apt-get install emerald-themes
[06:39] <CyberMad> ok
[06:39] <sir_Real> Tixer_, google for luks setup, go through some of the articles looking for how they solve the similar problem.  Each device has a unique hardware signature, even in your situation.  You can then mount the device based on hardware signatures.  you will have to lsusb (if they are usb) or dmesg after connecting each one and record that information
[06:39] <CyberMad> thanks
[06:39] <_6StringKng_> you need emerald theme manger as well
[06:39] <n2diy> soldats: I'm in the terminal, no reset menu, I'm running Dapper.
[06:39] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, the terminal command is: gnome-appearance-properties
[06:40] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  neither of the commands worked?? i will keep looking
[06:40] <soldats> in the terminal the menu is called terminal
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> no the one did
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> sudo apt-get install emerald
[06:40] <n2diy> soldats: Found it, thanks.
[06:40] <soldats> its next to view
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> i got emerald theme manager
[06:40] <_6StringKng_> ah
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> just...no themes
[06:40] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314:  i'm just trying to help.. i'm googling like mad to find the command you are asking for for terminal... trying to be helpful
[06:40] <Tixer> is there any way to have a mount script on each drive?
[06:40] <Grav3Mind> and it wont "fetch" any
[06:40] <sir_Real> Tixer_, google for luks setup, go through some of the articles looking for how they solve the similar problem.  Each device has a unique hardware signature, even in your situation.  You can then mount the device based on hardware signatures.  you will have to lsusb (if they are usb) or dmesg after connecting each one and record that information
[06:40] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: you have to install them hold on a sec and i'll walk you thru how to get them
[06:41] <Tixer> saying "mount me on say, /media/disk-1/
[06:41] <Invert314> thanks for your help jayde_drag0n
[06:41] <sir_Real> sorry to repost, but i think Tixer dropped out for a sec
[06:41] <Tixer> no
[06:41] <Tixer> added a clone
[06:41] <nickrud> sir_Real: looking through the gconf registry, under system/storage, it seems it tracks with uuid's; that's why I suggest he try
[06:41] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: hey i'm a newb and i know it..  but trying to help in here helps me learn
[06:41] <Agent> psycore:am checking, your talking about Avant Window Navigator am i correct ?
[06:41] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, if your googling you can also just post the link here
[06:41] <psycore> Agent: yes. thanks :)
[06:42] <Shadix> agent> backup-source
[06:42] <Tixer> is there a simple bash script I can put on each drive?
[06:42] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: well i'm finding forum posts so instead of having him or her read thru the whole thing i was just gunna post the command
[06:42] <psycore> Agent: somebody gave me this link earlier http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=A_Visual_Install_Guide#Ubuntu
[06:42] <Tixer> so Ubuntu doesn't mount it, but the drive says "mount me in /media/.....
[06:42] <psycore> Agent: i wonder if it will work on feisty
[06:42] <_6StringKng_> sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:42] <_6StringKng_> svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[06:42] <_6StringKng_> then try fetching the themes again
[06:43] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: okay first we have to install subversion.. let me get the command for you i think its just svn but lemme check to be sure
[06:43] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, yes thats a really nice thing to do
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> i just got that
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> jayde
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:43] <Co> hai
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> i think i figured it out all on my own
[06:43] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:43] <jayde_drag0n> _6StringKng_: HA i just saw that too
[06:44] <jayde_drag0n> _6StringKng_: thanks
[06:44] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, but instead of rushing from page to page to get info may not be the best route for others sometimes they need to read it themselfes
[06:44] <Grav3Mind> i typed https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[06:44] <jayde_drag0n> soldats:  okee dokee
[06:44] <Grav3Mind> and it said i needed to run sudo apt-get install subversion first
[06:44] <Grav3Mind> so i did
[06:44] <n2diy> Where does firestarter hide after a download? I have it running here, but want to move it to my test box. I can't find a .deb, or a .tar, or .gz for it? Where did it go?
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> hey jade...lol i have one more thing XD
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> *jayde
[06:45] <nickrud> n2diy: /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> the cube effect isnt working in compiz and i have no idea why
[06:45] <Grav3Mind> the cube desktop switch that is
[06:46] <SuperQ> random question
[06:46] <n2diy> nickrud: no, nothing show up there!?
[06:46] <nickrud> n2diy: if you have it installed, but there's no deb there, you've run afoul of the ubuntu cache policy
[06:46] <SuperQ> has anyone setup unicode domain names with bind9?
[06:47] <DM|> Has anyone heard anything good about UbuntuTweak?
[06:47] <nickrud> n2diy: ubuntu doesn't let the cache get bigger than 500mb, or older than 30 days, iirc. The rules are in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archve
[06:47] <nickrud> s/20archve/20archive/
[06:47] <n2diy> nickrud: damn! Could it be I installed it after a download, and then deleted the .deb, and fouled things up?
[06:47] <nickrud> n2diy: not your fault
[06:48] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, i didnt mean to be a jerk but i like to enforce the lurk more method because learning how things work rather than just commands is a lot more helpful in the long run
[06:48] <bthornton> I'm trying to edit "Users and Groups" as an administrative user in Gutsy, but I get a window that says "The configuration could not be loaded: You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[06:48] <[chr0n0s]> hi can anyone help me with this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46313/ (the problem is about setting up timeout's at NAT)
[06:48] <jayde_drag0n> Invert314: hey i'm not finding a thing other than typing "gnome-theme-manager" but i'm fairly sure thats not right because it doesn't launch anything on my computer... unless i don't have it installed... soo i'm sorry i couldn't find it for yu but i'll keep looking
[06:48] <bthornton> any ideas?  the current user is a member of the "admin" group
[06:48] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: explain further??
[06:48] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, i already found the command i was looking for
[06:48] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: gnome-appearance-properties
[06:49] <Invert314> jayde_drag0n, i said: the terminal command i'm looking for is: gnome-appearance-properties
[06:49] <Invert314> you don't know what a command line is, do you?
[06:49] <jayde_drag0n> oh... it was what i found earlier
[06:49] <jayde_drag0n> i misunderstood you saying it to me that i got it wrong
[06:49] <jayde_drag0n> yeay me!!
[06:49] <Grav3Mind> lol
[06:49] <nickrud> :)
[06:49] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, a lot of times on forums people give good hints as to why certain commands act the way tey do and learning about a certain distro and its install methods will help in the future if problems arise
[06:50] <n2diy> nickrud: Of course not! But, how do I get the firestarter package to my test box, which can't access the internet. Once I have the firestarter package here, I can get it to the test box via the LAN, or USB drive, but I can't locate the package!?
[06:50] <echosystm> guys, i get acpi errors when my computer is booting up. everything works fine, i can shut down and suspend, but the errors are still there.
[06:50] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, as in knowing how apt-get works and where the downloads come from
[06:50] <echosystm> does anyone have any ideas how i can stop the errors?
[06:50] <nickrud> n2diy: sudo aptitude reinstall firestarter will redownload it
[06:51] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: allrighty!  yah i've only sorta figured those out
[06:51] <echosystm> the BIOS of my motherboard doesnt seem to allow me to turn acpi off (no option)
[06:51] <Grav3Mind> well i have 2 problems left guys. 1. Emerald is installed and what not and themes are there but none of them are spplying and 2. the desktop cube switch thing wont work
[06:51] <Grav3Mind> *applying
[06:51] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: but i forget everytime i go to put in a new repository.. and have to look it up again.. one day i will memorize it LOL
[06:51] <n2diy> nickrud: Did that, no package showing, but.... let me try an updatedb, and see if I can find it then, thanks.
[06:52] <nickrud> n2diy: hm, it goes into /var/cache/apt/archive , if it actually got downloaded (you'd see that) that's where it'll be
[06:52] <Grav3Mind> can anyone help me with these last 2 problems?
[06:52] <nickrud> n2diy: erm, archives at the end of that path, that is
[06:52] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  okay when i installed and got everything working it was done out of order... and somewhere you have to tell it to stop using metacity for themeing and use compiz.. but for the life of me i don't remember where it was
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> ah i know how to do that ^_^
[06:53] <n2diy> nickrud: running updatedb now, hopefully this will solve it.
[06:53]  * nickrud thinks compiz is a waste of cycles (he has an ati)
[06:53] <soldats> yes
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[06:53] <DM|> nickrud ATI is a waste of cycles
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> its there
[06:53] <nickrud> DM|: lol
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> alt F2 compiz --replace
[06:53] <Grav3Mind> ta da ^_^
[06:54] <nickrud> Grav3Mind: I used alt-f2 compiz --replace && emerald --replace
[06:54] <barata> hallo list, when beryl runs, how to kill the mouse from turning to the next desktop anytime it touches the edge?
[06:54] <n2diy> nickrud: got it, updatedb did the trick.
[06:54] <WEL> shit
[06:54]  * nickrud wonders when this became #compiz
[06:54] <soldats> barata, there should be a setting for it did you search for it
[06:54] <WEL> what do you think
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> compiz --replace is all you need i believe cause as soon as i did that
[06:55] <WEL> no!
[06:55] <barata> for sure there is a switch for it and where is it?
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> emerald is now working
[06:55] <nickrud> !language | WEL
[06:55] <ubotu> WEL: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:55] <jayde_drag0n> yeay for pretty computers!!!
[06:55] <WEL> i don't know
[06:55] <Grav3Mind> woooo!
[06:55] <nickrud> Grav3Mind: I used it last before the final release, must be doing a better job now
[06:56]  * Grav3Mind agrees with jayde
[06:56] <psycore> how to uninstall kiba dock?
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> and yeah im guessin so lol nick
[06:56] <Shadix> help
[06:56] <soldats> apt-get autoremove kiba
[06:56] <Shadix> I can't install ET
[06:56] <Grav3Mind> i love this 7.10
[06:56] <Shadix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46314/
[06:56] <nickrud> psycore: if you compiled it, hoping you kept the working dir and sudo make uninstall is well written
[06:56] <barata> you are all just useless newbies ... answering question with "there is a manual for that"
[06:56] <barata> here is the answer! barata, disable edge flip pointer in rotate cube plugin
[06:56] <barata> bye all
[06:57] <Shadix> !noob
[06:57] <ubotu> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> ^_^
[06:57] <Grav3Mind> so neither is he
[06:57] <soldats> barnie, why because most answers to questions are easily answered if you read how the programs work
[06:57] <jayde_drag0n> that was awesome
[06:57] <Shadix> can anyone help with this install?
[06:58] <bthornton> is it possible to get the "Users and Groups" utility to display all users and groups?
[06:58] <bthornton> I think it only displays UIDs/GIDs above a certain number
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> is it possible to make the top and bottom bars on the ubuntu desktop look different? i suppose like... a theme?
[06:58] <Shadix> yep
[06:58] <Shadix> sec
[06:58] <Grav3Mind> cause i really want a different look
[06:58] <Shadix> http://gnome-look.org/
[06:59] <Grav3Mind> oh wow
[06:59] <nickrud> Grav3Mind: no, a panel is a panel
[06:59] <Shadix> nickrud, lol shutup lol
[06:59] <nickrud> Shadix: heck, that's why all those people are using the docks now :)
[06:59] <gandhii> try rightgrav: try right clicking on it and selecting "properties" for starters
[06:59] <Shadix> heh
[06:59] <gandhii> umm.. let me try that again...
[07:00] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  the individual controls for the bars are in appearance .. and then choosing customize  and you can also control the colors like tranparency by yah what ganhdii said
[07:00] <gandhii> grav: try right clicking on it and selecting "properties" for starters
[07:00] <bthornton> how do I add a user to a group?  I know how to use "usermod" generally, but I don't want to find all of the groups the user is in, then create a new list with all of the previous groups + the new group...
[07:00] <WEL> what is next?
[07:00] <tritium> bthornton: adduser <user> <group>, or use gui tools
[07:01] <WEL> What is ubuntu?
[07:01] <astro76> !ubuntu | WEL
[07:01] <ubotu> WEL: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <soldats> WEL, i loled
[07:01] <bthornton> tritium: sweeeet.  thanks :)
[07:01] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  with gnome look.. find the gtk2.0 theme you like.. (i've yet to figure out which ones are for the bars and not the windows... i still randomly install things lol) but then untar them into .themes i believe and when you open apparance and goto customize it is the ...controls tab that themes the bars   and your emerald manager will theme the window borders
[07:01] <Ayabara> I run compiz on gutsy and the title bars of my application windows are black. No matter what theme I choose in 'Appearance', it stays black. Help...
[07:01] <WEL> next,how is sex?
[07:02] <astro76> !ot | WEL
[07:02] <ubotu> WEL: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:02] <bthornton> and yet... I'm still getting "Permission denied" from TVTime?  yet my current user is a member of "video"
[07:02] <Grav3Mind> ok ill try that jayde
[07:02] <nickrud> bthornton: you have to log out and back in for a new group membership to be recognized
[07:02] <bthornton> ahh
[07:02] <bthornton> thanks
[07:03] <JimTheC> alright any alsa experts out there?
[07:04] <soldats> maybe
[07:04] <soldats> but probly not
[07:04] <JimTheC> I have a USB sound card
[07:04]  * nickrud gets popcorn, hoping for a new red man
[07:04] <sysdrum> sorta why?
[07:04] <JimTheC> I plug it in and can identify it fine
[07:04] <JimTheC> if I set it as default under my sound prefs it works
[07:05] <FluxD> !ccsm
[07:05] <JimTheC> but I tried to adjust the volume using the hot keys on my keyboard
[07:05] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[07:05] <JimTheC> and the volume level dropped real loq
[07:05] <JimTheC> low*
[07:05] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: with the limited knowledge i have i managed to do this http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/jayde_dragon/Screenshot-2.png    not fantastic but it amuses me.... i used a gtk theme for the application bar and then used the colors tab to set the font colors etc to make thigns readable and pretty
[07:05] <JimTheC> pressing the volume up button causes the volume to jump up AND down
[07:06] <JimTheC> but never above 20% or so
[07:06] <sysdrum> where you in an adio app at the time?
[07:06] <Grav3Mind> i like the bars ^_^
[07:06] <JimTheC> yeah totem
[07:07] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, its a nice look congrats
[07:07] <Grav3Mind> how hard is it to use compiz fuzion
[07:07] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: well i fully used tranparency under the individual properties for the bars... and i used "moomex" and colored it to get the slick black look
[07:07] <JimTheC> anyone help on my alsa issues?
[07:07] <sysdrum> hmm... JimTheC' have you tried installing another app like vlc? and seen if it does the same activity?
[07:08] <JimTheC> yup
[07:08] <JimTheC> its the same across apps
[07:08] <JimTheC> the on screen volume display (the pop up hotkey one) shows really low volume
[07:08] <sysdrum> okay what is the model of the keyboard?
[07:08] <soldats> JimTheC, most likely it has to do with the key setup you have you may need to do "a lot" of work to fix it
[07:08] <JimTheC> but wont increase
[07:08] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: thanks it took me FOREVER to find the icons i wanted but i'm really happy with it... i can't fully do it up the way i want unless i learn to make them myself.. but i'm happy with my current result
[07:08] <soldats> JimTheC, id suggest do it with the mouse
[07:08] <JimTheC> volume keys work great using onboard sound
[07:09] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, you can make your own icons using "the gimp"
[07:09] <Grav3Mind> does anyone know anything about using or installing compiz fuzion
[07:09] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: or inkscape, you can do some really nice svg icons with that. Scales perfectly
[07:10] <sysdrum> JimTheC, what model is the usb sound card?
[07:10] <JimTheC> Trends UD-10
[07:10] <jayde_drag0n> soldats: i like my icons.. but i wanna make the mouse pointers.. but me and gimp will be about as effective as me with a paper and pencil... 4 yr old adhd child on crack with a broken crayon
[07:10] <Agent> psycore:i was looking and looking, i found a error when download from there website that is why the file is missing
[07:10] <soldats> nickrud, inkscape is amazing but people fray away unless they know about vectors
[07:10] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, lol
[07:10] <psycore> Agent: its ok :)
[07:10] <nickrud> soldats: it's gotta be simple, I can use it :)
[07:11] <jayde_drag0n> aka.. i can't draw :-P
[07:11] <JimTheC> hmm
[07:11] <soldats> nickrud, yea i guess but its an incredibly powerful program
[07:12] <sysdrum> JimTheC, are you using an external dac?
[07:12] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: thats why I used inkscape, as soldats says it's incredibly powerful, but you can use it to make simple shapes and layer them to get your effect
[07:12] <milestone> are there any sources to install kde4 with gutsy?
[07:12] <Agent> psycore:is your luckying day i found it and am trying it right now
[07:13] <soldats> nickrud, its just the fact that most people dont know about vectors and the gimp ca do layers as well and is easier for most people to learn
[07:13] <psycore> Agent: great!
[07:13] <JimTheC> yup external dac
[07:13] <jayde_drag0n> nickrud: lol you have no idea how badly i can draw with a computer... i tried to make the icon i wanted so that only the character was there and not a white block around it... but i made aparantly 15 layers.. and it still wouldn't be "clear" i kept cutting.. and going to transparancy.. and the pieces wouldn't go away LOL
[07:13] <Grav3Mind> incase anyone wants to try and install compiz fusion i found an awesome tut http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Compiz-Fusion-on-Ubuntu-58113.shtml
[07:14] <Grav3Mind> im going to try it
[07:14] <tritium> Grav3Mind: it's already installed in 7.10
[07:14] <nickrud> soldats: true that, I guess. I'm not a graphics artist, it was easier to just make squares and circles and triangles with inkscape, then stretch them to make stuff
[07:14] <JimTheC> I just tried it again and it is behaving so weird
[07:14] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: oh, yes, I can relate :)
[07:15] <JimTheC> I changed the sound vol tasktray thing over to the USB Dac
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> compiz fuzion?
[07:15] <tritium> Grav3Mind: yes
[07:15] <nickrud> jayde_drag0n: the trick to that is to add an alpha channel to the layers, that's what makes it transparent
[07:15] <JimTheC> and when I adjust the volume via mouse the panel icon immediately says its muted
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> really!!!???
[07:15] <soldats> nickrud, i do a lot of graphic editing
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> holy crap
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> lol
[07:15] <JimTheC> even tho it isnt
[07:15] <jayde_drag0n> nickrud: lmao yeay someone can relate! i get an a for effort... i kept trying... 15 layers worth... but i tried :-)
[07:15] <Grav3Mind> i guess i just dont know what im doing
[07:16] <Agent> pstcore:it works
[07:16] <nickrud> soldats: do you do gratis for non-profits ;)
[07:16] <sysdrum> JimTheC, can you use oss with it?
[07:16] <soldats> nickrud, yea as well for my own feeling of satisfaction
[07:16] <Agent> psycore:is works
[07:16] <JimTheC> havent tried
[07:16] <JimTheC> sysdrum: how would I go about that?
[07:17] <JimTheC> the killer is it worked fine - I was using it without issues
[07:17] <Agent> this round i won!
[07:17] <sysdrum> JimTheC : are you using stardad ubuntu? or a flavor?
[07:17] <JimTheC> jsut adjusting voulme either per app or using the mouse on the tray icon
[07:17] <JimTheC> just straight up 7.10
[07:18] <psycore> Agent: u sure? lemme try then, but i don't know how to uninstall my kiba dock :P
[07:18] <sysdrum> right click the tray icon>click prefences> slect device and track
[07:19] <sysdrum> JimTheC: you should have 4 choices
[07:19] <JimTheC> yeah thats what I was doing
[07:20] <JimTheC> and not 4 choices
[07:20] <Invert314> Where do I go to make a feature request?
[07:20] <JimTheC> jsut PCM
[07:20] <allenc> Hi, my sound was working fine in Ubuntu and now it doesn't.  How do I re-install sound drivers?
[07:20] <JimTheC> unless you mena for mixers
[07:20] <omar_> guys, in the page where users report bugs, where is the solution for them?
[07:20] <astro76> !bugs | Invert314
[07:20] <ubotu> Invert314: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:20] <daya> any alternative to ipscan in linux
[07:20] <sysdrum> JimTheC: okay... let me see... what I can find be right back
[07:21] <Invert314> ty astro76
[07:21] <JimTheC> I have USB Audio Dac (Alsa Mixer), HDA Nvidia(ALsa), also Realtek...etc(OSS)
[07:21] <soldats> allenc, when and how did this happen
[07:21] <Invert314> ty ubotu
[07:21] <JimTheC> another hint: if I reboot and leave it alone it seems fine
[07:21] <allenc> soldats: tonight.  I don't know if it was related to the update that ubuntu installed or not.
[07:21] <omar_> Invert314: No, ubotu is a bot, not a human :)
[07:22] <darkblueB> ? ssh
[07:22] <Invert314> ah ty omar_
[07:22] <JimTheC> soon as I touch volume control the volume on the left channel drops immensely and the right channel is somewhat controllable
[07:22] <omar_> Invert314: :D
[07:22] <JimTheC> vol control says they are still linked tho
[07:22] <Invert314> =D
[07:22] <soldats> allenc, have you restarted alsa
[07:22] <jayde_drag0n> omar_: we must say ty to bots too... i've seen one too many movies (note: matrix) where robots rebelled cuz we weren't nice :-P
[07:22] <Textboo1> anybody ever had video codec problems so bad that if you tried playing an xvid/x264 it not only just did not work, but it also kills the media player (it just disappears) ?
[07:23] <jmazaredo_> when i use apt-get i get a line says The following packages have been kept back:
[07:23] <jmazaredo_>   initramfs-tools initscripts
[07:23] <astro76> darkblueB, what's your question?
[07:23] <darkblueB> I wanted to make the bot speak ;-)
[07:23] <JimTheC> Textboo1: I have that issue with VLC from time to time
[07:23] <omar_> jayde_drag0n: oh yeah, that sure is true, thanks to Ubotu then :D
[07:23] <gtr>  Hi I am trying to get wvdial to work but its not happening, it keeps telling me I failed to authenticate, but the username and password are correct
[07:23] <allenc> soldats: I have rebooted but know nothing about alsa
[07:24] <astro76> darkblueB, /msg ubotu ssh
[07:24] <ere4si> !ssh | darkblue
[07:24] <ubotu> darkblue: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:24] <Textboo1> JimTheC: I installed all the GStreamer plugins from add/remove too, I think that's all I did on my laptop .. but this it won't work
[07:24] <sysdrum> JimTheC: it is a bug in gutsy
[07:24] <Agent> psycore:use this command sudo apt-get remove (package name)
[07:24] <Textboo1> I should let you know that the computer I'm having codec problems with is a tri-core PPC , more specifically, an Xbox 360 :P
[07:24] <JimTheC> sysdrum1: the usb dac stuff?
[07:25] <soldats> allenc, try typing "/etc/init.d/alsamixer restart" in a terminal
[07:25] <psycore> darn I forgot kida-dock's package name
[07:25] <psycore> Agent:
[07:25] <sysdrum> JimTheC: you have to disable the on-board audio
[07:25] <Evanlec> Textboo1, ur running ubuntu on a xbox 360?
[07:25] <sysdrum> JimTheC: yes
[07:25] <jayde_drag0n> psycore: i thinkg you uninstalled it with only the word kiba
[07:25] <Textboo1> Evanlec: yes
[07:25] <JimTheC> ah
[07:25] <JimTheC> cool
[07:25] <JimTheC> just in bios?
[07:25] <soldats> allenc, or just alsamixer restart
[07:26] <Evanlec> Textboo1, coolness, did u hafta hack anything to get that working? modchip?
[07:26] <JimTheC> and where did you find the bug?
[07:26] <psycore> jayde_drag0n: letme try
[07:26] <allenc> soldats: bash: /etc/init.d/alsamixer: No such file or directory
[07:26] <JimTheC> Ive googled and forummed the hell out of this
[07:26] <jayde_drag0n> psycore: so if my assumptions are correct that is the package name
[07:26] <Textboo1> Evanlec: yes, it's not very easy for a normal end user, you have to have an old kernel, Microsoft fixed it a long time ago
[07:26] <omar_> guys, in the page where users report bugs, where is the solution for them?
[07:26] <psycore> jayde_drag0n: E: Couldn't find package kiba.
[07:26] <soldats> allenc, type cd then type alsamixer restart
[07:26] <Agent> psycore:i didn't get your last message.
[07:27] <Textboo1> anyways, I would love to put the Xbox 360 to good use, would be nice to use all that power for encoding videos, but this codec problem is kicking my a**
[07:27] <jayde_drag0n> psycore: if agent doesn't find it before i do i'll google it
[07:27] <gtr>  Hi I am trying to get wvdial to work but its not happening, it keeps telling me I failed to authenticate, but the username and password are correct
[07:27] <psycore> Agent: I forgot kida-dock's package name
[07:27] <Evanlec> Textboo1, ah, u have to have a first-gen 360 u mean?
[07:27] <psycore> jayde_drag0n: thanks in advance :)
[07:27] <allenc> soldats: it brings up a screen with level bars on it
[07:27] <sysdrum> JimTheC: yes... but do to the fact there is a bug (that has to do with that device) I am not sure if just disabling the on-board will fix the issue
[07:27] <Textboo1> Evanlec: go to www.free60.org if you're interested in it, can read about it there
[07:27] <Evanlec> Textboo1, cool
[07:27] <Agent> psycore:sudo apt-get remove kiba-dock
[07:28] <omar_> guys, in the page where users report bugs, where are the solutions?
[07:28] <soldats> allenc, yes it should have restarted it now turn all the levels up and see if it worked
[07:28] <JimTheC> sysdrum: with which device? Onboard or DAC? And can you link me to the bug?
[07:28] <jayde_drag0n> lol you already knew it.. kiba-dock
[07:28] <allenc> soldats: how do I move from one to the other?
[07:28] <jmazaredo_> can anyone help me on this http://pastebin.com/f5f5107f8
[07:29] <omar_> Guys, I still find a problem in mounting my DVD. The systems still gives me an error
[07:29] <Abu-Aadam> omar_: what command are you using
[07:29] <psycore> Agent: nope. failed. sudo apt-get remove kiba-dock
[07:30] <omar_> Abu-Aadam: I'm not using any commands.
[07:30] <psycore> Agent: I tried sudo apt-get remove kiba also
[07:30] <allenc> soldats: ok turned all up.  sound pref tab is still open and is locked up.
[07:30] <Abu-Aadam> omar_: try mount -t cd9660 /dev/<cdrom> /cdrom
[07:31] <soldats> allenc, try this "/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound stop" then do this "/etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound start"
[07:31] <Csaba> im having trouble installing avant, why cant i find it in synaptic?
[07:31] <Abu-Aadam> omar_: I'm not sure what the cd rom device is at though
[07:31] <Csaba> i downloaded a .deb, but what do i do with it, im not good with sudo apt stuff
[07:31] <bullgard4> lsmod output includes 'video'. modinfo says: "ACPI Video Driver." Is 'video' my active video driver?
[07:31] <Textboo1> Csaba: just double-click it
[07:32] <Textboo1> it's like the Windows equivalent to an .exe
[07:32] <sysdrum> JimTheC: I run a search under bugs.launchpad.net for your issue and hardware..
[07:32] <Csaba> ok i see files in a folder
[07:32] <allenc> soldats: no such command or directory
[07:32] <Csaba> theres a install icon, but thats just a text file
[07:33] <soldats> allenc, hmm i have no clue why that command isnt working
[07:33] <allenc> soldats: I don't seem to have that directory, are you sure it's the correct one?
[07:33] <jayde_drag0n> hey really dumb question for those who make icons and pictures and stuff... is the splash screen.. its a .png... does it contain any other information other than a picture... ie can i take any png and use it as the splash screen .. or do they have to be specially made?
[07:34] <soldats> it should be
[07:34] <_6StringKng_> any should work Iw oudl think
[07:34] <soldats> jayde_drag0n, you should be able to use any .png
[07:34] <Agent> psycore:did you use the terminal to install kiba-dock ?
[07:34] <sysdrum> JimTheC: disable the on-board, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/34947
[07:34] <jayde_drag0n> YEAY i can complete the domination of invader zim on my compy
[07:35] <JimTheC> sysdrum: I dont think this is related to HDA Nvidia. I've never had a problem with onboard audio. Only my USB DAC is flakey
[07:35] <zetheroo> I just installed Gutsy fresh on my system.... but when I try to enable compiz-fusion effects I get an error message saying the composite extension is not available..... do i need to install xserver-xgl?
[07:35] <psycore> Agent: yep.
[07:35] <Csaba> so what do i do with my avant.deb file, file manager just opens it up, nothing installs
[07:35] <bullgard4> Launchpad > Bugs includes at the beginning of each page a status line "Affects, Status, Importance, Assigned to." What values may take the varible 'Status'? How to interpret them?
[07:35] <_6StringKng_> did you click install package?
[07:35] <zetheroo> anyone?
[07:35] <quickie> Hey! There are actually people here! Sweet...
[07:36] <quickie> <-- is a ubuntu noob. :)
[07:36] <Csaba> there is no install package
[07:36] <allenc> soldats: should I just re-install ubuntu?
[07:36] <Csaba> under the readme is
[07:36] <Csaba> ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make && make install
[07:36] <Abu-Aadam> quickie: cool, call urself newb not noob, noobs never learn :)
[07:36] <sysdrum> JimTheC: this is not with the hardware per say more so the alsa conflict between the cards and GNOME snd applet
[07:36] <quickie> LOL. Yeah.. Thanks for the heads up. ;)
[07:36] <Csaba> theres install-sh ?
[07:37] <JimTheC> sysdrum: hmm, just reading thru the comments on that bug
[07:37] <Agent> psycore:if you installed it you must use this code "sudo apt-get install kiba-dock" am i correct ?
[07:37] <soldats> allenc, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+question/6717
[07:38] <psycore> Agent: I think I remember doing so. but i get confused since I strive so much to get it installed :P
[07:38] <quickie> Well then... I suppose I should start by asking if this is the right place to come for help when I cant find what I need in the forums.....
[07:38] <quickie> So.. uh.. Is it? :D
[07:38] <soldats> yes
[07:38] <_6StringKng_> yes
[07:38] <zetheroo> anone?
[07:38] <zetheroo> I just installed Gutsy fresh on my system.... but when I try to enable compiz-fusion effects I get an error message saying the composite extension is not available..... do i need to install xserver-xgl?
[07:38] <_6StringKng_> what type of video do you have?
[07:39] <zetheroo> ATI Mob Rad X1400
[07:39] <_6StringKng_> that might be why
[07:39] <sysdrum> JimTheC: did it help or you still back where you started?
[07:39] <zetheroo> it was working yesterday just fine
[07:39] <JimTheC> havent tried yet
[07:39] <JimTheC> sysdrum: Id need to reboot to attempt to disable the onboard in bios...
[07:39] <zetheroo> I thought that XGL is installed with Gutsy automatically
[07:40] <Textboo1> zetheroo: have you installed the restricted drivers?
[07:40] <Textboo1> you shouldn't have to use XGL I don't think, FGLRX should work
[07:40] <sysdrum> it is but the X1400 is a banned card
[07:40] <zetheroo> Textboo1: for my ATI carg?
[07:40] <Textboo1> yes
[07:40] <zetheroo> yes
[07:40] <Textboo1> you can un-blacklist cards/chipsets
[07:40] <JimTheC> sysdrum: unless you think the alsa changes will be enough? I a little inexperienced in actually directly editing module type files
[07:41] <quickie> Sweet... Well then.... I just installed 7.10, and have 3 hard drives... I was stupid and rushed through the install and didnt configure my hard drives manually.... And now cant see 2/3 of them.... I see them in the device manger as /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc... And sdc has a volume set as linux_raid_member (which is good I guess)... but I cant actually see it in "Computer" along with sdb (which has no volume)... How do I get to see/use them?
[07:41] <zetheroo> it was working before without me having to do anything hectic
[07:41] <Textboo1> ok, I think it's in your xorg.conf
[07:41] <Agent> psycore:well the all you ahve to is "sudo apt-get remove kiba-dock" then tell me what message you get
[07:41] <kraut> moin
[07:41] <Textboo1> there should be a section at the bottom "Extensions" and Composite=False (you'll want to change that to true and save)
[07:41] <sysdrum> JimTheC: don't play with the code till you have no other option
[07:42] <soldats> quickie, youd have to edit the fstab file and make a mount point for them
[07:42] <Textboo1> lemme double check if that's the right file zetheroo
[07:42] <quickie> The fstab file you say?
[07:42] <psycore> Agent: I get this message "E: Couldn't find package kiba-dock"
[07:42] <quickie> Hmm, I suppose thats a good start on my googleing. :)
[07:42] <soldats> yes it is
[07:42] <quickie> Thanks! I hope I wont be a bother if I come back if I cant figure it out from there.
[07:43] <alimoe> hey all
[07:43] <quickie> So far Im loving Ubuntu btw.... Other than the flash/firefox issue.
[07:43] <soldats> quickie, basically you need to create some folders where you want them to mount and then you need to edit your fstab file to mount at the folders you made
[07:43] <Textboo1> yeah, that's a huge pain
[07:43] <Agent> psycore:are you sure you sill have it installed ?
[07:43] <Textboo1> to have your browser lock up 20 times in one day is not fun
[07:43] <quickie> How do I create folders if I cant see the drive?
[07:43] <whitemetalfly> everyone hello
[07:43] <Sound> hello
[07:44] <psycore> Agent: yes, and it's working, but the thing is I couldnt get it to dock on top of my taskbar
[07:44] <sysdrum> the folders are symbolic links to the drive
[07:44] <Textboo1> zetheroo: yep, I was right, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , look for Section "Extensions"
[07:44] <psycore> Agent: instead, it goes 'on' my taskbar shadowing it
[07:45] <Sound> which best mediaplyer in liux
[07:45] <_6StringKng_> I use amarok, hehe
[07:45] <JimTheC> sysdrum: Man what search term did you use in launchpad to get that hit? I still can't get it to come up on my own
[07:45] <soldats> quickie, this may help http://aplawrence.com/Linux/adddrive.html
[07:45] <Textboo1> zetheroo: you can remove that section or just change the 0 to a 1
[07:45] <mavi-> Sound: amarok for KDE, i like exaile for Gnome
[07:45] <psycore> _6StringKng_: is amarok similar to winamp?
[07:45] <bullgard4> lsmod output includes 'video'. modinfo says: "ACPI Video Driver." Is 'video' my active video driver?
[07:45] <quickie> soldats, Thanks a ton! Ill be back in a bit after trying some of this out. :)
[07:45] <mavi-> psycore: more like itunes in the layout
[07:45] <_6StringKng_> yeah
[07:46] <zetheroo> Textboo1: thanks, but I just needed to install xserver-xgl
[07:46] <psycore> mavi-: oh good
[07:46] <Sound> thank you !!
[07:46] <Textboo1> oh
[07:46] <_6StringKng_> I mean, amarok and winamp are my fav media players, but I like amarok better, hehe
[07:46] <Textboo1> lol
[07:46] <Agent> psycore:right click on kiba-dock and select kiba setting then click on dock then were is say edge click and change it to top edge
[07:46] <soldats> quickie, cool its 1 am here so i gotts sleep but ill be on tomorrow for a bit
[07:46] <sysdrum> JimTheC: trends ud-10 with alsa
[07:46] <soldats> bye everyone
[07:46] <mavi-> my plan is to like BMPx most, when its stable enough to play mp3s =P
[07:46] <quickie> Gotcha... HAve a good one
[07:47] <Sound> 88
[07:47] <MI_5> hey guys, does anybody know how to combine unallocated space?
[07:47] <_6StringKng_> delete the partitions, format them to whatever ytou like
[07:47] <_6StringKng_> have one big one
[07:47] <MI_5> yeah, but they have data on them
[07:47] <Textboo1> wait, if it's unallocated .. ?
[07:48] <_6StringKng_> i know right
[07:48] <Textboo1> I am confused
[07:48] <_6StringKng_> thats what I was thinking
[07:48] <JimTheC> sysdrum: I must be doing soemthing wrong: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=Trends+UD-10&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_pack
[07:48] <JimTheC> age=
[07:48] <MI_5> is there any way to combine the unallocated space when i resized some of the partitions?
[07:48] <Textboo1> unallocated means it's not partitoned or formatted
[07:48] <Textboo1> there can't be anything on them
[07:48] <lamartpm> if anyone ones, complete noob to ubuntu and completely messed up my OS by switching the drivers up, really would appreciate some guidance if someone gets the chance
[07:48] <clusco> helloooooooo
[07:48] <clusco> damn newbies here!!!
[07:48] <MI_5> ok, when i format them, can i combine it into another partition?
[07:48] <bullgard4> MI_5: yes. Use GParted.
[07:49] <hairulfr> lamartpm: What happened? Ie. what is the problem?
[07:49] <_6StringKng_> sudo apt-get install gparter
[07:49] <Textboo1> in Administration > Partition Editor I belive
[07:49] <psycore> Agent: nope. couldnt find any of those egde click thingy
[07:49] <lamartpm> i switched my graphics card over
[07:49] <_6StringKng_> sudo apt-get install gparteg
[07:49] <_6StringKng_> sudo apt-get install gparted
[07:49] <_6StringKng_> OMFG
[07:49] <Textboo1> gparted*
[07:49] <Textboo1> lol
[07:49] <lamartpm> sorry, the driver for my graphics card
[07:49] <_6StringKng_> damn laptop keyboard
[07:49] <hairulfr> lamartpm: How do you mean?
[07:49] <quickie> clusco, Ey... Dont be so hard on us noobs, making the switch aint easy. :P
[07:49] <Agent> psycore:did you click on kiba settings
[07:49] <Textboo1> ok.. going to repeat myself
[07:49] <Textboo1> (2:22:54 AM) Textboo1: anybody ever had video codec problems so bad that if you tried playing an xvid/x264 it not only just did not work, but it also kills the media player (it just disappears) ?
[07:49] <MI_5> ok will do
[07:49] <_6StringKng_> I know, but so many noobs
[07:49] <MI_5> thanks
[07:50] <lamartpm> basically, i was playing around cause i saw something neat, and i changed it from one set of intel drivers to another, now i have to run off a live cd because it won't let me into the gui and sends me to a command prompt
[07:50] <psycore> Agent: when i click on the dock all i see is "kiba utils>gset-kiba"
[07:50] <JimTheC> sysdrum: Ah! google indexes better than launchpad search :-)
[07:50] <_6StringKng_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:50] <_6StringKng_> at the terminal
[07:50] <Textboo1> lamartpm: did you try sudo dpk --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:50] <_6StringKng_> I think thats the command
[07:50] <hairulfr> lamartpm: Do you have a console when you boot form the HD?
[07:50] <JimTheC> sysdrum: thanks for the push in the right direction
[07:50] <lamartpm> yes
[07:50] <JimTheC> Im out for the night
[07:50] <lamartpm> and no i haven't tried that
[07:50] <hairulfr> lamartpm: Do what Textboo1 said
[07:50] <Textboo1> isn't there a -phigh in there somewhere too?
[07:51] <Textboo1> so he doesn't have to do all the options
[07:51] <Textboo1> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[07:51] <Textboo1> try that
[07:51] <hairulfr> Textboo1: lamartpm: That should do the trick :)
[07:51] <lamartpm> thanks guys!!!
[07:51] <sysdrum> JimTheC:so are you good?
[07:51] <bullgard4> _6StringKng_: Instead of denouncing others here in the channel try: i.) to use the Enter key less often, ii.) to key less often typos.
[07:51] <JimTheC> I dunno
[07:51] <Textboo1> I am awesome :P
[07:51] <JimTheC> Ill reboot later and try disabling
[07:51] <Agent> psycore:did you right click ?
[07:52] <Textboo1> if I could just get this system to play codecs now..
[07:52] <psycore> Agent: yes.
[07:52] <JimTheC> I have enough to go on that I can chase down the rest of it
[07:52] <Agent> psycore:did you see the kiba settings ?
[07:52] <sysdrum> did you book mark the launchpad page?
[07:52] <sysdrum> JimTheC: did you book mark the launchpad page?
[07:53] <psycore> Agent: nope. all I get is Kiba-Utils, and sub menu is >gset kiba, icon editor and systray
[07:53] <JimTheC> sysdrum: yup of course
[07:53] <hairulfr> Textboo1: What with the codecs ?
[07:53] <hairulfr> *al min trafik
[07:54] <Agent> psycore:this should work press alt-f2 then copy&paste this "kiba-settings"
[07:54] <sysdrum> JimTheC: well peace I am out I have a desktop project to finish for work...
[07:54] <_6StringKng_> ctrl+shit+insert to paste something interminal
[07:54] <Textboo1> hairulfr: If I try playing xvid/x264 the media player dies, and I have gone in through add/remove and installed all the gstreamer plugins
[07:54] <sysdrum> JimTheC:hopefully you get fixed and all is well
[07:54] <_6StringKng_> whoops
[07:55] <Textboo1> that's all I did on my laptop and it works fine .. on this system , nada
[07:55] <psycore> Agent: I get this> Could not open location 'file:///kiba-settings'
[07:55] <hairulfr> Textboo1: Weird, what palyer do you use?
[07:55] <Textboo1> hairulfr: does it with totem, mplayer, and vlc
[07:55] <hairulfr> Textboo1: Sounds hardware ish, don't it?
[07:55] <JimTheC> sysdrum: Yeah eventually. Then I can move onto my ACPI issue ;-)
[07:55] <Textboo1> hairulfr: thta's possible, considering it's running on an Xbox 360
[07:55] <JimTheC> sysdrum: thanks for the help. Later
[07:55] <sysdrum> JimTheC: that I have no clue about...
[07:56] <hairulfr> Textboo1: hahah, yeah, that might be :) What hardware is in that?
[07:56] <Agent> psycore:go into your terminal and type "sudo apt-get install kiba-dock
[07:56] <Textboo1> where would I get a log of why a media player would crash like that?  mpeg2 works fine, and I've check the Admin > System Logs viewer, none of them come up with anything when it crashes
[07:57] <_6StringKng_> codec problem maybe?
[07:57] <Textboo1> hairulfr: a tri-core ppc cpu, each core running 2 threads at 3.2 ghz
[07:57] <Textboo1> would love to put those to use encoding videos, it would be a beast
[07:57] <_6StringKng_> I bet
[07:57] <psycore> Agent: i get this > E: Couldn't find package kiba-dock. how to get the package again? download again?
[07:57] <Textboo1> but alas, I am stifled by the almighty gods
[07:58] <psycore> Agent: I might have deleted the package, since it was on my desktop
[07:58] <hairulfr> Textboo1: Yeah, ppc, in MS, who would have thunk it
[07:58] <Textboo1> heh, I know
[07:58] <Textboo1> what's funny was their dev kits were Apple G5's .. ok...
[07:58] <Textboo1> doesn't make sense
[07:59] <Textboo1> going off topic now though, but really though, anywhere I could troubleshoot the cause, even if it is a hardware issue?
[08:00] <Polysics> hi all
[08:00] <Polysics> how would you go abotu getting LOTS of spam on purpose to test a filter?
[08:00] <Polysics> it's almost OT, but asking won't hurt :-)
[08:01] <hairulfr> Polysics: Just post your mail on every open board you can find :P
[08:01] <MI_5> hey again, i formated the unallocated space with GParted, now how do i combine the formated partitions with my other existing partitions?
[08:02] <Agent> psycore:everything you need to make kiba work for you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46315/plain/
[08:02] <Polysics> hairulfr, could you pls point me to some?
[08:02] <Textboo1> MI_5: you could have just extended your current partitions (I think)
[08:03] <Shadix> um I have a black box on my screen that won't go away
[08:03] <MI_5> Textboo1: it wouldn't allow me to go any further
[08:03] <Shadix> it is where the you tube vid plays nomaly
[08:03] <Textboo1> MI_5: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[08:03] <psycore> Agent: thanks for your time dude :)
[08:03] <hairulfr> Polysics: Uhmm... Well, not really, find something about porn i guess, post it on youtube, any where with lots of users i guess
[08:03] <Shadix> is there a screen refresh hotkey
[08:04] <Polysics> ok, i get the gist :-)
[08:04] <Agent> psycore:your welcome, i told you now you can have kiba-dock or avant
[08:04] <Polysics> also those "crack and warez" sites
[08:04] <Polysics> i jsut wish i knew a nigerian guy :-)
[08:04] <Textboo1> Polysics: just google spam filter testing
[08:05] <Agent> psycore:later
[08:05] <Polysics> i think those tests using specially crafted emails have been done
[08:05] <psycore> Agent: yeah later :)
[08:06] <CyberMad> i install http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.2/VirtualBox_1.5.2_Linux_x86.run   how to do clean uninstallation ?
[08:07] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anyone tell me the name of the program that asses disk space in a graphical interface?
[08:08] <surgy>  how do i make gaim automaticly sign me into a certain account?
[08:08] <Textboo1> Gparted
[08:08] <ere4si> disk usage analyzer
[08:08] <Textboo1> oh, yeah, ere4si is probably right
[08:08] <Textboo1> space does not equal partitions, lol
[08:09] <MI_5> Textboo1: How do i convert a primary partition into an extended?
[08:09] <Textboo1> missed that
[08:09] <Wifi-Phreak> Where do I find disk usage analyzer?
[08:09] <MI_5> *logical i mean
[08:09] <Textboo1> surgy: just add an account
[08:09] <surgy> Textboo1: but what if i have three accounts? how do i tell it to auto log into a certain account?
[08:10] <Textboo1> just set it to enable, and if it has a password, save password
[08:10] <Textboo1> it will log in automatically for you
[08:11] <ere4si> Wifi-Phreak: in the application menu under accessories on mine
[08:12] <surgy> what is the defualt path to the gaim executable?
[08:13] <surgy> is it in /usr/local/bin ? i installed it using apt-get
[08:13] <Textboo1> surgy: you know that gaim is old, right?
[08:13] <surgy> Textboo1: yeah but i like it
[08:13] <Textboo1> it's been updated and renamed to pidgin, and they even have their own irc channel
[08:13] <Textboo1> if you like gaim you like pidgin
[08:14] <segagman> this is freedom i likw...
[08:14] <surgy> yeah pidgin is what im using i just call it gaim out of habbit
[08:14] <segagman> like
[08:14] <segagman> gaim here
[08:14] <segagman> fawn 2
[08:14] <segagman> it works good
[08:15] <segagman> i know this going to sound strange
[08:15] <segagman> but
[08:15] <Textboo1> ok, you're already in #pidgin, so why are you asking in here?
[08:15] <segagman> my ? pretain to ubuntu
[08:15] <surgy> Textboo1: i just joined, thnx for letting me know there was a channel for it
[08:15] <segagman> ?
[08:15] <segagman> ok
[08:15] <Textboo1> oh, ok, lol, but yeah, they would know better
[08:16] <Textboo1> segagman: I wasn't talking to you, sorry for the confusion
[08:16] <segagman> im trying to boot ubuntu xp vista lite
[08:16] <segagman> next step
[08:16] <segagman> ubuntu
[08:16] <segagman> any linkz
[08:16] <segagman> please help
[08:16] <segagman> 4braging rightz
[08:16] <segagman> lol
[08:16] <segagman> tri bot
[08:16] <hairulf1> segagman: What, what is the problem?
[08:17] <segagman> can i install...ubuntu unde in xp or vis
[08:17] <ferronica> how to protect folders in ubuntu 7.10
[08:17] <kanet> :D
[08:17] <segagman> it took me long time
[08:17] <segagman> to grt this
[08:17] <segagman> far
[08:17] <mmkassem> ferronica: from what?
[08:18] <segagman> ok i got xp an vis dual booting
[08:18] <segagman> but is it safe to add ubuntu
[08:18] <kanet> how
[08:18] <timsandtom1> hey guys, how do i install a program? .tar.bz2 file
[08:18] <segagman> give me a break
[08:18] <ferronica> mmkassem: from others
[08:18] <kanet> u have to extract
[08:19] <ferronica> mmkassem: my brother using it too
[08:19] <hairulf1> segagman: Yes, it is :) It will triple boot without problem,s
[08:19] <segagman> is ther a grub  prob
[08:19] <ferronica> mmkassem: i wanna encrypt it
[08:19] <segagman> ?
[08:19] <ferronica> mmkassem: so that he cant open or access it
[08:19] <timsandtom1> kanet:Were you talking to me? How do I extract? I've been using linux for all of 3 days now, dunno much about it
[08:19] <segagman> <segagman cent yahoo was popular
[08:20] <segagman> lol
[08:20] <kanet> extract
[08:20] <kanet> ..
[08:21] <segagman> well thank you sir
[08:21] <kanet> gg
[08:21] <mmkassem> timsandtom1: tar -xf FILENAME
[08:21] <segagman> i have been troble shooting this my own and goog the linux way
[08:22] <segagman> so much time lol
[08:22] <hairulf1> segagman: Pretty hard to understand what you want, do you want to triple boot vista/xp/ubuntu - if yes - no problems, do you have some other problems...?
[08:22] <segagman> my right foot is a sleep
[08:22] <timsandtom1> mmkassem:Ok, thanks. Whats the command to change directory to the desktop?
[08:23] <segagman> >hair yes thats what i want... to begin with
[08:23] <mmkassem> timsandtom1: that's the command to extract .tar.* files
[08:23] <mmkassem> ferronica: you will have to read about using truecrypt or (dmcrypt and LUKS)
[08:23] <hairulf1> segagman: sudo apg-get --purge remove rightfoot
[08:23] <hairulf1> *apt
[08:23] <segagman> :-)
[08:24] <pio_> hej
[08:24] <segagman> 4real i fill prickleeez
[08:24] <ere4si> timsandtom1: cd /home/desktop
[08:24] <mmkassem> timsandtom1: to go to your desktop: cd ~/Desktop
[08:24] <segagman> i will do it
[08:24] <mmkassem> ere4si : its cd ~/Desktop
[08:24] <timsandtom1> mmkassem and ere4si: thanks :D
[08:25] <Abu-Aadam> can somebody help me with hardware problems I'm having, http://rafb.net/p/TzUY9V79.html please look at lines 124-130
[08:26] <segagman> so is grub working or microsux in tri boot
[08:26] <Abu-Aadam> My computer also crashes using ctrl alt backspace
[08:26] <segagman> im not there yet
[08:26] <segagman> bot a
[08:26] <segagman> few clicks away
[08:26] <segagman> a
[08:26] <segagman> ?
[08:27] <segagman> next prob
[08:27] <segagman> alsa
[08:27] <hairulf1> segagman: GRUB is working
[08:27] <segagman> on dual screen wont acept usb stero sound device
[08:27] <segagman> WTF
[08:27] <hairulf1> what? !
[08:28] <segagman> is there a manual?
[08:28] <hairulf1> segagman: What is your "sound device"?
[08:28] <segagman> alsa sound ..sorry
[08:28] <segagman> i think
[08:28] <segagman> a usb
[08:28] <segagman> panasonic stero with usb
[08:29] <hairulf1> segagman: An external?
[08:29] <segagman> "gammer"
[08:29] <segagman> gamer*
[08:29] <hairulf1> segagman: ?? What is it called?
[08:29] <segagman> i found ubuntu drivers for  head set
[08:29] <segagman> no
[08:29] <segagman> drivers for stero
[08:29] <balachmar> Hi, a friend here at work tried to update to gutsy gibbon straight from dapper, which failed because of some dependancies
[08:29] <Parsi> how can i configure desktop settings?
[08:30] <Parsi> changing icon set
[08:30] <segagman> fill you BALACH
[08:30] <segagman> stay fawn
[08:30] <segagman> soild
[08:30] <hairulf1> Parsi: System, preferences, apperance, - customize, icons
[08:30] <balachmar> He just replaced dapper by gutsy in the sources.list
[08:31] <timsandtom1> :D Awesome, thanks guys(mmkassem and ere4si), blenders working. Side note, anyone have a second life account they could use to grab something off the forums for me? Theres a coupla addons for Blender
[08:31] <Parsi> hairulf1: thankx
[08:31] <segagman> ubuntu4n00bz iz what ubuntu is
[08:31] <hairulf1> segagman: ?
[08:31] <Parsi> it shows all mounted drives in desktop! i don't like it
[08:31] <segagman> i love it
[08:31] <segagman> dont get me wrong
[08:31] <_slacker__> hi guys, anyone knows why i can't set the visual appearance as "Custom" with Compiz? it's always on 'Extra' :s
[08:32] <segagman> yet the deas top is being lernt all over
[08:32] <segagman> linus or stallman?
[08:32] <segagman> im  auser
[08:32] <segagman> i want it to work
[08:33] <segagman> so far so good
[08:33] <segagman> but....
[08:33] <hairulf1> Parsi:  Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor > apps > nautilus i think
[08:33] <segagman> gibbion drivers for usb stero missing
[08:33] <segagman> <need
[08:33] <Abu-Aadam> second time can somebody help me with hardware problems I'm having, http://rafb.net/p/TzUY9V79.html please look at lines 124-130
[08:34] <hairulf1> segagman: Since you don't even know what your usb whatever it is stereo is called, i doubt you'll get it to work, othersie use the onboard, if you have
[08:34] <segagman> ok
[08:34] <segagman> brb
[08:34] <segagman> tell
[08:34] <segagman> u
[08:35] <yellow> hi, i want to be abel to write eclipse in my terminal and then the program will start, what should i do? normally i type ./eclipse in the program folder
[08:36] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: eclipse should work
[08:36] <yellow> the thing is i have downloaded the program from a website and extracted it
[08:36] <hairulf1> Parsi: or you could try this: gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible false
[08:37] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: ok then you need to go to the binary and type ./eclipse
[08:37] <segagman> dose free as in beer meen open sorse? or dose it mee free cause i fix my friend  puters for beer
[08:37] <segagman> ok
[08:37] <segagman> her
[08:37] <segagman>  it
[08:37] <segagman> is
[08:37] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: I am just installing that program myself with synaptic package manager
[08:38] <yellow> i know that is possible as well
[08:38] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: it's easier. I did it in 5 minutes
[08:38] <segagman> philips9fw-c777) game port>usb pc link
[08:38] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: I recommend you try geany also
[08:38] <neur2> hello, I'm trying to edit a file using sudo but still get = Error: no write permission what command is missing?
[08:38] <segagman> >these steros r not sold no mor for $$$$ reasons<<<
[08:39] <ere4si> !enter | segaman
[08:39] <ubotu> segaman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:39] <yellow> Abu-Aadam: ok thanks
[08:39] <segagman> sorry
[08:39] <hairulf1> segagman: I'm still no sure what you are talking about, stereos? What are "stereos"? an external USB soundcard? An pair of headphones? What?
[08:40] <hairulf1> *a
[08:40] <segagman> ill try bout my phillips> fwc777>usb pc link wont work with gib
[08:40] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: it's a very small IDE for c/java/php I like it for just educational purposes
[08:40] <segagman> yes household stero sold at walmart with usb link
[08:41] <hairulf1> segagman: Stereo headphones?
[08:41] <segagman> no
[08:41] <yellow> Abu-Aadam: we use eclipse at school, so i will stay with it for now
[08:41] <segagman> stero with subs  vid svid
[08:42] <segagman> google> philips fw-c777
[08:42] <segagman> works only winbolwz
[08:42] <Gnuget> hello
[08:42] <Gnuget> world!
[08:42] <Gnuget> :)
[08:42] <Gnuget> hello Jannita
[08:42] <segagman> geeez
[08:42] <SuperQ> hello Gnuget
[08:42] <Gnuget> :p
[08:42] <Gnuget> :p
[08:42] <Gnuget> hello SuperQ  :)
[08:43]  * SuperQ &
[08:43] <Jannita> Gnuget, hello
[08:43] <Gnuget> ohh 1102 users online :0
[08:43] <Abu-Aadam> yellow: eclipse is gold it's just not so nice with memory, takes up 100mb but these days it doesn't matter that much
[08:43] <Gnuget> is amazing
[08:43] <Jannita> that's a lot of users :P
[08:43] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know why gparted will not format a drive to ntfs?
[08:43] <Gnuget> Jannita,  eip
[08:44] <Gnuget> Jannita,  in this placer you will better  in short time
[08:44] <Gnuget> :)
[08:44] <Gnuget> place*
[08:44] <segagman> dual boot..tri boot is no prob but soud drive is?
[08:44] <hairulf1> Gnuget: isin't it around 1300 - 1400 after new release?
[08:44] <segagman> the fawn
[08:44] <balachmar> Hi, a friend here at work tried to update to gutsy gibbon straight from dapper, which failed because of some dependancies
[08:44] <balachmar> He just replaced dapper by gutsy in the sources.list
[08:44] <Gnuget> hairulf1,  :O
[08:45] <Gnuget> wow
[08:45] <segagman> :-0
[08:45] <Jannita> Gnuget, yes, but I'm reading that document to improve my english :D
[08:45] <Gnuget> :D
[08:45] <balachmar> He now tried to get back to dapper and then to edgy, replacing gutsy and doing a update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[08:45] <balachmar> But it breaks on some dependancies
[08:45] <segagman> kool what doc can i read to understand your?
[08:45] <yellow> currently i use dapper... like it better than the newer versions, but what happens when the long time service runs out?
[08:45] <balachmar> like: apt, aptitude and gnome-terminal-data
[08:46] <segagman> i got a gibbion in the mail with stickers and all
[08:46] <hairulf1> segagman: Alsa is problematic to setup with these usb things. You should google around.
[08:46] <segagman> still like  the fawn
[08:46] <segagman> i know i tryed
[08:46] <balachmar> So apparrently you can't upgrade from dapper to gutsy... but how to fix it?
[08:46] <segagman> not suported
[08:47] <segagman> shite
[08:47] <hairulf1> segagman: No, but maybe it will work with something else, a device doesn't have to be supported to work.
[08:47] <segagman> frank is segagman
[08:47] <mkquist> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[08:47] <mkquist> sorry for that, cat got to keyboard... lol
[08:47] <segagman> it has  headset drivers
[08:48] <segagman> no stero
[08:48] <jmazaredo_> anyone help me on this http://pastebin.com/m7f5efa9d
[08:48] <segagman> c it is for "gamers"
[08:48] <balachmar> Does no one know what to do with the failed upgrade from dapper to gutsy? I reinstall is not really an option...
[08:49] <segagman> search comand line
[08:49] <mkquist> balachmar - why is reinstall not an option?
[08:50] <hairulf1> balachmar: what mkquist said
[08:50] <segagman> is sudo  a refence to linjitsu?
[08:50] <segagman> cause i like bash
[08:50] <segagman> :-)
[08:50] <dgjones> balachmar, not sure what to suggest to correct the problem, but you could well find that backing up /home might be the only way, its not recommended to upgrade from dapper to gutsy, you need to upgrade from dapper to Edgy, then to Feisty and then to gutsy
[08:50] <hairulf1> segagman: ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <segagman> opps geeez sorry man
[08:51] <balachmar> dgjones: We now know why it is not recommended to upgrade from dapper to gutsy in one step :)
[08:51] <segagman> ok back to my  grub wooos
[08:51] <balachmar> That is why we now tried to get back to dapper, and upgrade to edgy from there
[08:51] <segagman> so i got vis/xp
[08:52] <balachmar> but now it has some trouble fixing dependancies
[08:52] <ere4si> jmazaredo_: isn't it aptitude get install program?
[08:52] <neur2> thanks
[08:52] <VSpike> How can I make network connected files which behave ... dare I say it ... more like windows?  By which I mean - doesn't hang processes/system when disconnected/unavailable... transparently reconnects when disconnected if possible... automatically restored on boot/wakeup/resume
[08:52] <Agent_bob> balachmar i missed that.  why is it not recommended ?
[08:52] <segagman> runing is it cool to "install"  untu
[08:52] <mkquist> balachmar - i still think you should just b/u home and install gibbon fresh
[08:52] <Parsi> why there isn't a link to download ububtu DVD on the site?
[08:52] <hairulf1> balachmar: I'd do that too
[08:53] <mkquist> segagman - ru asking if you can install ubuntu with xp/vista? if so, then yes it works fine
[08:53] <segagman> how?
[08:53] <segagman> sorry but i like many sourses
[08:53] <hairulf1> Parsi: http://isohunt.com/download/28289948/ubuntu
[08:53] <balachmar> To problem with that is that we are not the administrators of the computer, we do have the sudo rights, but there is also a admin account on the machine, so we can't really reinstall the machine...
[08:54] <Parsi> hairulf1, ok
[08:54] <balachmar> (I know the admin should have upgraded the system then, but hey... :) )
[08:54] <mkquist> segagman - it should just install and grub should 'see' the other o/s install
[08:54] <balachmar> Agent_bob: because of dependancy problems...
[08:54] <segagman> all thes ubuntu links im going 2 crash beryl lol
[08:55] <VSpike> Windows used to suffer from these problems too .. i remember in the days of netware/win3.1 where our financial director used to yank the 10-base2 coax with his foot and craash every machine in the office
[08:55] <Parsi> where can i find trash folder?
[08:55] <Agent_bob> balachmar i think you just told me the real problem   you are second admin   too many cooks in the kitchen
[08:55] <VSpike> But I can't believe Linux is really less capable in this respect, so it must just be a matter of configuring things right
[08:56] <segagman> wouldnt that b kool <eXPerince<VISlite<FAWN
[08:56] <segagman> LIVE
[08:56] <Agent_bob> Parsi find / -iname '*trash*' -type d
[08:56] <balachmar> Agent_bob: that is true :)
[08:57] <pbn> Hello, what should I do when smartctl says this: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED! - Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
[08:57] <segagman> th part and mbr and grob would b the prob
[08:57] <balachmar> We just decided to reinstall and let the admin come down to create the admin account again
[08:58] <clusco> how to check what wifi chipset being used?????
[08:58] <Parsi> is there linux version of Matlab?
[08:58] <clusco> my wifi card didnt detect...
[08:58] <VSpike> clusco: lspci
[08:59] <dgjones> balachmar, just wondering, is your /home on a seperate partition? if it is, you could possibly do a fresh install and mount /home to the same partition but tell the installer not to format the partition, that at least should save everything and all the users info in /home
[08:59] <clusco> thanks VSpike
[08:59] <balachmar> Parsi: yes
[08:59] <VSpike> clusco: or lshw
[08:59] <segagman> ok ok i got to go u all 2 do sum...thing luv freedom luv ubuntu luv u guy 4 beingHERe segagman at yahoo dot fuct lucky if i check it on my friendz homeXP
[08:59] <VSpike> clusco: lsusb
[08:59] <Parsi> how?
[08:59] <segagman> love ya
[08:59] <Parsi> balachmar: how?
[09:00] <balachmar> dgjones: nope, they didn't do that
[09:00] <brobostigon> hi
[09:00] <blackfox_> how to install game online at ubuntu?
[09:00] <balachmar> Parsi: there just is a linux version of matlab
[09:00] <Parsi> wow!
[09:00] <balachmar> Parsi: I use it here as well
[09:01] <Parsi> how can i find it?
[09:01] <balachmar> parsi: buy it
[09:01] <dgjones> balachmar, thats a pain )-:
[09:01] <balachmar> dgjones: tell me about it :)
[09:01] <clusco> thanks VSpike!!!
[09:01] <Parsi> !
[09:02] <balachmar> Parsi: Matlab is proprietary software you should have to buy it to use it, or you might want to try octave which is an open source implementation of various matlab functions
[09:02] <balachmar> octave you can install from apt-get
[09:02] <tarelerulz> How would I get a newer kernel such as 2.6.26  ?
[09:02] <balachmar> Parsi: http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
[09:04] <balachmar> dgjones: but it really is a pitty that you can't upgrade from dapper to some other version besides edgy. It makes upgrade take a while...
[09:05] <dgjones> balachmar, it does, as you'd noticed, its probably down to dependencies to things installed in the intermediate versions
[09:07] <Parsi> balachmar: is Octave linux version of matlab?
[09:07] <brobostigon> good morning
[09:07] <balachmar> Parsi: no, but in some things it is compatible
[09:08] <clusco> i just install ubuntu server... now installing x window
[09:08] <clusco> is that good using ubuntu for openvpn ????
[09:08] <Parsi> same as matlab?
[09:08] <clusco> i need to do openvpn
[09:08] <Parsi> same commands?
[09:08] <balachmar> dgjones: yupz, I know why, but still it should be great it it somehow knew how to solve the dependancy problems when upgrading from older versions.
[09:09] <balachmar> Parsi: soemtimes it does, so what you could to is try it it will execute the m-files you have
[09:09] <balachmar> if it does, be happy, if it doesn't buy matlab for linux, or rewrite the m-files to work with octave
[09:09] <Parsi> balachmar: thanks
[09:11] <balachmar> Parsi: you're welcome, but are you a student, or not, and if you work at a university, they just maight already have a matlab linux version for you
[09:11] <Parsi> i'm student
[09:12] <UbuntuLover> Having an issue with a script. This is a shorter version of the theory: test1="echo -e \"hello\nworld\"" && test2="sed -n '`expr $RANDOM '*' 2 '/' 32767` s/./p'" && $test1 | $test2            This SHOULD randomly output "hello" or "world", but evidently 'sed' doesn't seem to care for backticks. Anyone know how to output a line from a file at random?
[09:12] <balachmar> Parsi: Well then still your university might have student versions available, our university has
[09:13] <Parsi> balachmar: no, all the computers run MS Windows
[09:14] <brobostigon> wehere i work, some machine have solaris, some linux, and some still have beos/zeta.
[09:14] <Parsi> Balachmar: http://help.nceas.ucsb.edu/index.php/Matlab_on_Ubuntu_5.04
[09:14] <UbuntuLover> Windows is to linux as 4chan is to slashdot
[09:14] <Parsi> are they talk about windows version?!
[09:14] <balachmar> Parsi: Well if they supply students with licenses, it doesn't matter, because you can use the same license in the linux version
[09:14] <brobostigon> around half are linux.
[09:14] <UbuntuLover> is there a way to output a line from a file at random?
[09:15] <balachmar> Parsi: this is a howto from your institution? then you know how to get it.
[09:16] <brobostigon> ubuntulover: n o idea, no clue.
[09:16] <zetheroo> now when installing Ubuntu for an office load of computers (about 20) there is one thing that comes to mind..... the need to update every one of those installations! It would be really great if there were update ISO's available for download.... this way you would not have to chew up your downloads and valuable bandwidth for 10's of machines....
[09:16] <perpetual> Can someone help me with moving an ubuntu system from one harddisk (old, noisy) to a new one?
[09:17] <scguy318> zetheroo: for that situation you would do a PXE install
[09:17] <balachmar> Parsi: http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/FAQ.html#MATLAB-compatibility
[09:17] <balachmar> Parsi: just some extra info in case you can't get your hands on matlab for linux
[09:18] <Parsi> balachmar: i think there is linux version
[09:18] <Parsi> i'm looking for it
[09:19] <Parsi> MATLAB is complex
[09:19] <yellow> Parsi: there is a linux version for matlab, I have it
[09:20] <Parsi> http://www.mathworks.com/support/sysreq/current_release/linux.html
[09:20] <zetheroo> scguy318: PXE install?
[09:20] <perpetual> Can someone help me with moving an ubuntu system from one harddisk (old, noisy) to a new one?
[09:20] <balachmar> yellow: he knows that, but he is trying to figure out how to get it at his university :)
[09:20] <dgjones> !backup | perpetual
[09:20] <ubotu> perpetual: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:21] <dgjones> !cloning | perpetual
[09:21] <ubotu> perpetual: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[09:21] <yellow> balachmar: well, good luck to him. have to leave, bye
[09:21] <Parsi> yellow: student version is free?
[09:21] <brobostigon> perpetual: you could makea backup of everything,then do a fresh installation, and then copy importent things from backup, thats what i did, and it semmed the easiest to me.
[09:22] <balachmar> Parsi: no
[09:22] <perpetual> dgjones; because of the UUID ways ubuntu uses these days, the initrd does not find the root device anymore. How do I fix that. The backup is already long done. I not a newbie
[09:22] <Parsi> errr!
[09:22] <yellow> Parsi: i have a free student verison
[09:22] <balachmar> Parsi: your university normally pays for it
[09:22] <Parsi> yellow: how can i download it?
[09:22] <Parsi> balachmar: i wanna use it at home
[09:23] <gugu> Ciao
[09:23] <brobostigon> gugu: by
[09:23] <spin> ciao a tutti
[09:23] <yellow> Parsi: personally i downloaded it from the university homepage, but to get it i had to use my account
[09:23] <dgjones> perpetual, i would think you should be able to find out the new uuid's and just replace them in the fstab file, give me a sec, there's a link for checking the uuid's
[09:23] <dgjones> !uuid
[09:23] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:24] <balachmar> Parsi: then you are still allowed to use a student license from your university if you use it for your education
[09:24] <gtr> Hi I am trying to get wvdial to work but its not happening, it keeps telling me I failed to authenticate, but the username and password are correct
[09:24] <dgjones> perpetual, i "think" you can use a live cd to boot up and then the sudo blkid command from that to find out the uuid's of the partitions on the drive
[09:24] <balachmar> If you don't use it for educational purposes you should have to buy it, steal it (download illegaly) or use octave :)
[09:24] <perpetual> dgjones, I already replaced those with the proper device files. It is the initrd where still the old UUID's are used
[09:25] <perpetual> dgjones, naturally, before booting from the new drive, I already fixed the fstab.
[09:25] <dgjones> perpetual, i'm not sure about that, i've never had to change anything like that
[09:25] <spiffman> hi all, i have cd/dvd driver issues, someone wanna take a stab?
[09:26] <yellow> bye, have to go
[09:26] <dgjones> perpetual, i was going for the simple solution, i don't think i'm going to have anything more helpful to suggest
[09:27] <perpetual> dgjones, thanks. I already tried to remake the initrd file in /boot, with mkinitramfs. But it did not work yet for me.
[09:27] <alexbobp> Are there any Linux programs for recovering files deleted from an NTFS partition?
[09:28] <dgjones> perpetual, good luck anyway
[09:28] <spiffman> ok, well lemme rephrase: where can i mess with my cd/dvd driver, maybe an update driver option or something?
[09:29] <scguy318> alexbobp: testdisk comes to mind
[09:31] <UbuntuLover> brobostigon: and to anyoneelse who cares, I actually figured out a solution to my problem! Whoohoo!    test1="Hello\nWorld" && test2=`echo -e $test1 | wc -l` && echo -e $test1 | grep -n "" | grep ^`expr $RANDOM '*' $test2 '/' 32767 '+' 1`: | sed -e 's/^..\(.*$\)/\1/'
[09:31] <UbuntuLover> yay for me
[09:31] <spiffman> i haven't been able to write to any cd's, not even cd-r's, someone can tell me what my options are? (besides getting a new cd-rom :P)
[09:31] <brobostigon> thats great ubuntulover: we are very happy for you.
[09:32] <alexbobp> scguy318: thanks, I'll try that
[09:32] <zetheroo> why won't my volume control add itself to my panle?
[09:32] <zetheroo> panel
[09:32] <UbuntuLover> geez that one was bothering me. I knew it had to be *cough* simple
[09:32] <nsh> UbuntuLover, a hack that solves a problem is probably still a hack, rather than a solution
[09:32] <BaseJam> do anyone know a german linux channel ?!
[09:32] <Mortice> !de
[09:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:33] <BaseJam> thanks ;-)
[09:33] <Mortice> kein Problem :)
[09:35] <blackfox_> i install wine .. but i dont know how to use..?
[09:35] <iarwain1> blackfox_: "wine path/to/file.exe"
[09:35] <alexbobp> scguy318: I just deleted some files.  It looks like testdisk is for recovering partitions.
[09:35] <iarwain1> Does anyone here know of a good GUI for editing CSS ? With good i mean something that shows the commands as i type.
[09:36] <scguy318> alexbobp: it can also perform file recovery too I believe
[09:36] <neur2> hello, is running gnome-openbox faster than plain gnome or is it about the same?
[09:36] <scguy318> alexbobp: hold a sec
[09:36] <iarwain1> neur2: would be faster i presume.
[09:37] <neur2> thanks
[09:38] <blackfox_> after wine path/to/file.exe what need to do?
[09:38] <spiffman> iarwain1, http://tips.webdesign10.com/good-css-editor-for-linux-ubuntu
[09:38] <iarwain1> blackfox_: just press enter :)
[09:38] <iarwain1> spiffman: cheers
[09:38] <neur2> why doesn't conky run in gnome-openbox?
[09:38] <blackfox_> yup i enter
[09:38] <scguy318> alexbobp: Photorec perhaps
[09:39] <Csaba> ive installed avant, but the dock is empty, how do i add applications
[09:39] <scguy318> alexbobp: or something in Ubuntu Rescue Remix
[09:39] <perpetual> Does anyone know how to set the root device when you re-make the /boot/initrd.img file ?
[09:40] <din_> Hi, why xvidtune in new ubuntu doesnt work ?
[09:40] <din_> I need to
[09:40] <din_> change my screen
[09:40] <perpetual> If you do it wrong you get a kernel panic during boot
[09:40] <iarwain1> blackfox_: do you get any output or errors?
[09:40] <nalpha_> guys.. I try to installed CalemEam, and until I run the bin/database/loadInitData.sh script it's showing error like this " 'PDOException' with message 'There is no active transaction' " Can anyone help me please..
[09:40] <din_> cause it is too small , and i need to turn it a bit right
[09:41] <alexbobp> scguy318: I'm trying photorec now.  It looks like it's what I'm looking for,
[09:41] <blackfox_> dont
[09:41] <din_> and cannot cause new ubuntu doesnt 'hear' modeline  in Monitor section :/
[09:41] <alexbobp> Thanks!
[09:41] <din_> in xorg.conf
[09:41] <nalpha_> I Using ubuntu 7.10 and installthe apache mysql from apt-get
[09:41] <perpetual> Does anyone know how to set the root device when you re-make the /boot/initrd.img file ?
[09:41] <perpetual> If you do it wrong you get a kernel panic during boot
[09:41] <iarwain1> blackfox_: so you don't get anything? Do you have wine installed? What program are you trying to run, and where is it?
[09:42] <spiffman> where can i  find driver properties, options, etc, for cd/dvd drive?
[09:42] <din_> I mean my monitor looks like   <[screenn| * ]   * -black area :>
[09:43] <iarwain1> spiffman: lspci ?
[09:43] <brobostigon> spiffman: try system/prefs/hardware info
[09:43] <blackfox_> wine path/to/file.exe <-- type at terminal?
[09:43] <din_> I need to pull it a bit right, i used xvidtune in ubuntu 7.04 and it worked well , but now xvidtune doesnt work. So anybody can help me ? :>
[09:44] <brobostigon> yes blackfox
[09:44] <iarwain1> blackfox_: no no, you type in "wine " and replace the "path/to/file.exe" with the path of your file
[09:44] <Csaba> any avant users?
[09:44] <spiffman> thanks, hardware info might help, i'll see what it does
[09:44] <blackfox_> oo
[09:45] <brobostigon> welcome spiffman
[09:45] <Csaba> basically i lost my garbage bin and screenmenu icons and i dont know how to get them back
[09:45] <blackfox_> i arady install .. but dont know where can fine that wine software
[09:45] <Csaba> and the dock loads up empty all the time
[09:45] <djalil> hi how can you make a fail over internet in ubuntu, suppost you have an ADSL line, and wireless card in your computer, and you want if the ADSL line is down, the wireless internet start automaic
[09:46] <iarwain1> blackfox_: you don't "find" it, you just use it by typing in "wine file.exe" in the terminal, if you are in the same folder as the file.exe
[09:46] <brobostigon> blackfox_: !wine
[09:46] <scguy318> !wine | blackfox_
[09:46] <ubotu> blackfox_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:48] <perpetual> Does anyone know how to set the root device when you re-make the /boot/initrd.img file ?
[09:48] <perpetual> If you do it wrong you get a kernel panic during boot
[09:48] <brobostigon> perpetual: no idea.
[09:49] <gtr> perpetual: lilo o grub?
[09:49] <Taggard> Does anyone know how to get the Apple Keyboard buttons (volume, etc) to work in Ubuntu
[09:50] <perpetual> gtr, I use grub.
[09:50] <brobostigon> taggard, on my mac, those special buttons work auto, but i think the package is pbuttonsd, or something like that.
[09:51] <gtr> perpetual: your root device should be something like hd(0,0)
[09:52] <cyberdog> join #pptp
[09:52] <perpetual> gtr, grub starts, but booting stops with a kernel panic. I thing the problem is the initrd.
[09:52] <Taggard> brobostigon: Ill try
[09:53] <din_> My monitor looks like   <[screenn| * ]   * -black area :>  I need to pull screen a bit right, i used xvidtune in ubuntu 7.04 and it worked well (it moved screen to right, and it gived me modeline, which i put in xorg.conf) , but now xvidtune doesnt work. So anybody can help me ? :>
[09:53] <gtr> perpetual: kernel panic is not that, what is the error message excactly?
[09:53] <cyberdog> connect irc.freenode.net
[09:53] <blackfox_> i install use terminal
[09:53] <administrator> hi!
[09:54] <neur2> thanks again
[09:54] <administrator>  I need some help about installing maven in ubuntu...
[09:54] <administrator> any help?
[09:54] <perpetual> gtr, Two possible causes in the initrd: it is an ide disk, which ubuntu calls /dev/sda, because it uses libata with some kind of compatibility layer. That module may not be loaded. Second: in the initrd root may still be refered to with its UUID which is not correct for the new harddisk
[09:54] <Taggard> brobostigon: sudo sed -i~ 's/    <LSGT> =  94;/    <LSGT> =  49;\n    <TLDE> =  94;/' /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86
[09:55] <Taggard> brobostigon: Wrong paste.. hold on
[09:55] <Taggard> brobostigon: Package pbbuttonsd is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:55] <perpetual> gtr, exact error I don't know, but kernel panic because it cannot find root device on (0,0) (major, minor device numbers)
[09:55] <bullgard4> lsmod output includes 'video'. modinfo says: "ACPI Video Driver." Is 'video' my active video driver?
[09:56] <aniac> I already tried it but when I'm tryin to run it i get errmsg like wrong java path..
[09:56] <brobostigon> when i installed gutsy taggard, it installed that package automagiclly,
[09:56] <brobostigon> so i a mm not sure what to advise: taggard
[09:57] <brobostigon> try ubuntu-powerpc irc room.and ask there, the might have a better idea.
[09:57] <perpetual> gtr, I moved a system from an old, almost broken disk to a new one. I changed the fstab to use /dev/sda* device files, and also changed the root=UUID=blabla to root=/dev/sda6 in the kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:58] <OIM> hi to everyone
[09:58] <OIM> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[09:58] <OIM> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[09:58] <OIM> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[09:58] <OIM> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[09:58] <OIM> checking for -p flag to install... yes
[09:58] <OIM> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[09:59] <OIM> checking for gawk... no
[09:59] <OIM> checking for mawk... mawk
[09:59] <OIM> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[09:59] <gtr> perpetual: what drive is sda6 on the second or third?
[09:59] <OIM> checking for kde-config... /usr/bin/kde-config
[09:59] <OIM> checking where to install... /usr (as returned by kde-config)
[10:00] <CyberMad> i want to create file server use samba.. do i correct, it need smbfs and samba ?
[10:00] <CyberMad> so apt-get install smbfs and apt-get install samba ??
[10:01] <_ruben> smbfs is client stuff
[10:01] <CyberMad> ohh..
[10:01] <CyberMad> so it just need samba ?
[10:01] <CyberMad> i will deploy it for office.. it's like enterprise file server ;)
[10:02] <CyberMad> i want to migrate from windows 2003 server to samba file server
[10:02] <din__> hi, My monitor looks like   <[screenn| * ]   * -black area :>  I need to pull screen a bit right, i used xvidtune in ubuntu 7.04 and it worked well (it moved screen to right, and it gived me modeline, which i put in xorg.conf) , but now xvidtune doesnt work. So anybody can help me ? :>
[10:02] <CyberMad> is there GUI to do easy and fast management of samba ?
[10:02] <brobostigon> cybermad: swat
[10:03] <din__> new ubuntu 7.10 ignore modeline i get in xvid in 7.04  :/
[10:03] <aniac> guys any idea about installing maven?
[10:03] <CyberMad> thanks
[10:03] <CyberMad> brobostigon do i need install apache then swat ?
[10:03] <brobostigon> i dont know, cybermad. iam not sure.
[10:04] <din__> Any ideas what to do to get normal screen ? (except buying new monitro :>)
[10:04] <CyberMad> brobostigon oh, ok..
[10:04] <CyberMad> thanks it's ok
[10:04] <brobostigon> !swat
[10:04] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:05] <Abu-Aadam> My computer has crashed twice in one hour, I can move mouse, things on the screen move but I can't click, do anything with the keyboard
[10:05] <Abu-Aadam> and have to kill power to get back to my work
[10:06] <CyberMad> thanks
[10:06] <ubuntujens> hallo
[10:06] <scguy318> Abu-Aadam: have you checked syslog?
[10:06] <din_> I had the same Abu when i used mplayer after upgrade 7.04 to 7.10. I did format disk, and installed form cd new ubuntu and it is ok now :>
[10:07] <pbn> Hello, NetworkManager set my default network interface as eth2 I would like it to be eth0 how can I do that ?
[10:07] <Abu-Aadam> scguy318: nope i don't know where that is
[10:08] <scguy318> Abu-Aadam: /var/log/syslog
[10:08] <scguy318> Abu-Aadam: consider possibly running memtest if you suspect hardware issues
[10:08] <Csaba> ok in avant i got my apps in dock, how do i get the trash bin on it
[10:09] <ubuntujens> hallo spricht hier jemand meine sprache ^^ ?
[10:09] <Mortice> !de | ubuntujens
[10:09] <ubotu> ubuntujens: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:09] <delta> r
[10:09] <Abu-Aadam> scguy318: heres the file contents http://rafb.net/p/WCKsB094.html
[10:10] <basxo> haii.. this is my first run ubuntu 7.10 since I received this stuff yesterday..
[10:10] <delta> g
[10:10] <delta> cucuu,
[10:10] <delta> cuucu
[10:10] <delta> titi
[10:10] <delta> fuf
[10:10] <delta> ]fufdd
[10:11] <basxo> can i ask something.. how to uninstall gnash?? and can I install flash player? I am using ubuntu 7.10
[10:11] <jrib> delta: stop
[10:11] <jrib> basxo: visit a page that requires flash in firefox and click "install" on the yellow bar that pops up
[10:11] <basxo> I was ex suse user lol
[10:11] <genjix> if I have upgraded my ubuntu from cd to gutsy, and will apt-get upgrade make my computer recent fully?
[10:12] <jrib> genjix: if you have enabled the online repos, yes
[10:12] <scguy318> basxo: just remove it
[10:12] <scguy318> basxo: sudo aptitude remove gnash
[10:12] <genjix> ok
[10:12] <basxo> I use gnash, no pop up bar anymore :(
[10:12] <scguy318> basxo: for Flash player just do sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:12] <basxo> run in terminal?
[10:12] <Abu-Aadam> scguy318: i'm running memtest all now
[10:12] <scguy318> basxo: yeah
[10:13] <bullgard4> Why does /etc/X11/xorg.conf list "Driver 'vesa'" but lsmod lists only 'video'?
[10:13] <basxo> ok.. wait
[10:13] <scguy318> basxo: you could alternatively use a GUI like Synaptic but whatever suits :)
[10:13] <basxo> synaptic?? I never heard this word.. lol
[10:13] <jrib> !software > basxo (read the private message from ubotu)
[10:13] <scguy318> basxo: System -> Admin -> Synaptic Package Manager
[10:14] <basxo> I migrate from opensuse 10.2 to ubuntu 7.10
[10:14] <basxo> thanks.. Iĺl try
[10:14] <abhi> hey how do i get apxs installed?
[10:14] <jrib> basxo: you should probably remove gnash if you want to use adobe's flash
[10:16] <basxo> how to uninstall gnash? I don know, this is my first time. Do you believe me? I always communicated with YaST (opensuse, and suse linux) and I got to many trouble with this ubuntu yesterday lol
[10:16] <jrib> basxo: search for "gnash" in synaptic and remove it
[10:16] <genjix> Does anyone have any idea why my new kernel does
[10:16] <genjix> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[10:16] <genjix> and then falls into BusyBOX with
[10:16] <genjix> Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline
[10:16] <genjix> or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev
[10:16] <genjix> ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[10:16] <genjix> ?
[10:17] <basxo> synaptic? where can I find?
[10:17] <jrib> !paste | genjix
[10:17] <ubotu> genjix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:17] <basxo> lol
[10:17] <jrib> basxo: scguy318 and ubotu told you
[10:17] <jrib> !who | basxo
[10:17] <ubotu> basxo: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[10:18] <vox> genjix: i know why it's doing it, im just not sure how to fix it.
[10:18] <vox> genjix: did you just upgrade from edgy?
[10:18] <genjix> yes
[10:18] <basxo> mustakim@mustakim:~$ sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:18] <basxo> [sudo] password for mustakim:
[10:18] <basxo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:18] <basxo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:18] <basxo> Reading package lists... Done
[10:18] <genjix> to gutsy
[10:18] <basxo> Building dependency tree
[10:18] <basxo> Reading state information... Done
[10:18] <basxo> Initializing package states... Done
[10:18] <basxo> Building tag database... Done
[10:18] <basxo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:18] <basxo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:18] <jrib> !paste | basxo
[10:18] <ubotu> basxo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:18] <basxo> mustakim@mustakim:~$
[10:19] <genjix> basxo, you have another process
[10:19] <jrib> basxo: either use synaptic or aptitude, not both
[10:19] <genjix> vox, you get the same?
[10:19] <basxo> yes.. I install ubuntu yesterday.. hmm 20 hours ago
[10:19] <vox> genjix: it's a problem with the new Upstart process. just install gutsy from scratch
[10:20] <genjix> fuck!
[10:20] <jrib> !ohmy | genjix
[10:20] <ubotu> genjix: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:20] <genjix> But i cannot, i am in a difficult place
[10:20] <genjix> and I need to work
[10:20] <grody> is there any software that can morph images other than gimp?
[10:20] <genjix> just great...
[10:20] <grody> gimp*
[10:21] <jxxt> !gimp
[10:21] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[10:21] <scguy318> basxo: close open package managers before running another
[10:21] <jrib> grody: what do you mean by "morph" exactly?  Would imagemagick count?
[10:21] <vox> genjix: im not sure of how to correct the issue. maybe wait around for a bit for someone with more knowledge than myself to come on
[10:21] <basxo> lol..
[10:21] <grody> hmm, maybe not tried it
[10:22] <grody> i'm trying to morph a number of facial shots to extrapolate what they would look like in a number of years
[10:22] <basxo> see you soon.. I have another process on my ubuntu.. so long
[10:23] <bullgard4> Why does /etc/X11/xorg.conf list "Driver 'vesa'" but lsmod lists only 'video'?
[10:23] <perpetual> Is there an ubuntu developer or maintainer I can as a question to. please ?
[10:23] <perpetual> s/as/ask/
[10:23] <jrib> !ask | perpetual
[10:23] <ubotu> perpetual: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:23] <scguy318> perpetual: the Ubuntu devs/maintainers don't usually hang out here, but what's the question?
[10:24] <CyberMad> i got problem with printing document from ubuntu 7.04 to windows xp pro sp2 (shared printer), the case is sometime can not print.. even i already did /etc/init.d/cupsys restart  the print still stuck.. is there any way to fix it?
[10:24] <jrib> bullgard4: because lsmod lists kernel modules and vesa is an Xorg module?
[10:24] <perpetual> Does anyone know how to set the root device when you re-make the /boot/initrd.img file ?
[10:25] <perpetual> I moved a system from one hdd to another, changed UUID's to /dev/sda* in fstab _and_ in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but still I get kernel panic
[10:26] <bullgard4> jrib: Why do you diffeentiate between kernel modules and Xorg modules? I believe the kernel has to do the calculating/processing anyway.
[10:26] <OIM> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:26] <OIM> what is the problem?
[10:26] <scguy318> OIM: is build-essential installed?
[10:26] <jrib> bullgard4: /I/ had no input in the matter
[10:27] <OIM> ?
[10:27] <jrib> !compile > oim (read the private message from ubotu)
[10:27] <jrib> OIM: what are you compiling?
[10:27] <bullgard4> jrib: hm
[10:27] <ikonia> bullgard4: differentiate between kernel and xorg modules ?
[10:28] <co^ganteng> hai
[10:28] <OIM> ı am looking
[10:28] <bullgard4> ikonia: I do not understand your question. There is a subject missing in it.
[10:28] <perpetual> scguy318, I moved a system from one hdd to another, changed UUID's to /dev/sda* in fstab _and_ in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but still I get kernel panic
[10:29] <ikonia> bullgard4: you asked why differentiate between xorg and kernel modules, I'm asking you what you mean
[10:29] <adminus> hello, i'm new in here, so i don't know where to start, but i have a problem with my laptop (shuting down or rebooting leads to freezing), and i think it's connected with the ati driver (i have a mobility radeon 9600). thank for help in advance
[10:29] <porkpie> guy's I am having problems setting JAVA_HOME  can anyone help please run.sh: Missing file: /lib/tools.jar
[10:29] <porkpie> run.sh: Unexpected results may occur.  Make sure JAVA_HOME points to a JDK and not a JRE.
[10:29] <ikonia> perpetual what is the kernel panic error
[10:29] <perpetual> scguy318, I think I need to adapt the initrd.img file too
[10:29] <tuet> helllo
[10:29] <porkpie> I am not sure how to set JAVA_HOME
[10:29] <ikonia> porkpie: its complining the a jar in /lib is missing
[10:29] <bullgard4> ikonia: I was referring to jrib's message.
[10:29] <perpetual> ikonia, cannot find block (0,0) on root device
[10:29] <porkpie> ikonia:it's there
[10:29] <ikonia> porkpie: JAVA_HOME=$PATH/TO/SOMEWHERE
[10:29] <scguy318> adminus: known issue, disable DRI
[10:30] <adminus> how?
[10:30] <jrib> ikonia: bullgard4 wants to know why the "vesa" driver he is using in Xorg is not listed with 'lsmod'
[10:30] <porkpie> iknoia:how do i set the path
[10:30] <ikonia> perpetual: is the disk in the new machine actualld (h0) ?
[10:30] <cyph3x> hi everyone i have a pc running gutsy server... in case of power outage i need to enable autologin for my default user
[10:30] <scguy318> adminus: moment
[10:30] <cyph3x> how would i do this?
[10:30] <ikonia> jrib: because its nothing to do with the kernel ?
[10:30] <ikonia> porkpie: I've just shown you "JAVA_HOME=$PATH-you-WANT"
[10:30] <jrib> ikonia: right
[10:30] <scguy318> adminus: open up your xorg.conf by doing gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:31] <ikonia> jrib: ok, topic dropped. Pointless
[10:31] <perpetual> ikonia, it is now, it is on the primary ide. Although gutsy calls it /dev/sda, because of libata which is standard now
[10:31] <scguy318> adminus: if theres a section called "Module", then add the line Disable "dri" to the section
[10:31] <scguy318> adminus: if not, then make a new section, then add that line
[10:31] <scguy318> jrib: three lines ok in here?
[10:31] <ikonia> perpetual: no - grub references disks different. /dev/sda does not mean grub will see it as (hd0)
[10:31] <CyberMad> i want to ask some trick... when i did cp /etc/path1/subpath2/subpath3/subpath4/subpath5/file.conf file.conf.bak <- how to make file.conf.bak easily in /etc/path1/subpath2/subpath3/subpath4/subpath5/file.conf without typing those path again?
[10:31] <genjix> vox, a friend told me the problem!
[10:31] <jrib> scguy318: pastebin is nicer, but I won't kick you for three lines
[10:32] <genjix> change hda to sda
[10:32] <genjix> it works now!
[10:32] <greencoo1ie> hello
[10:32] <CyberMad> usually i did: cp /etc/path1/subpath2/subpath3/subpath4/subpath5/file.conf /etc/path1/subpath2/subpath3/subpath4/subpath5/file.conf.bak
[10:32] <scguy318> jrib: alright, I'll paste
[10:32]  * jrib notes others might though
[10:32] <lenscape_> each time I reboot, It designates my network adapter as either eth1 or eth2 - apparently at random. It really screws up my vmware config
[10:32] <ikonia> CyberMad: be in the dir and just co cp file.conf file.conf.bak
[10:32] <CyberMad> is there short way to do that?
[10:32] <greencoo1ie> Is there a standalone address book for ubuntu?
[10:32] <perpetual> ikonia, grub runs, it loads the kernel. The error occurs in the initramfs stage.
[10:32] <CyberMad> ikonia without do dir 1st ?
[10:32] <ikonia> CyberMad: yes
[10:32] <scguy318> adminus: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46322/
[10:32] <ikonia> CyberMad: be in that dir as a working dir
[10:32] <lenscape_> how do I force it to use one only?
[10:32] <scguy318> adminus: only concern yourself with the Section "Module" portion
[10:32] <ikonia> perpetual: ahh so the kernel is booting to the point of checking for a FS
[10:33] <scguy318> adminus: the rest is probably not applicable to your configuratin
[10:33] <CyberMad> i think that just the solution, eh.. ok thanks
[10:33] <OIM> ı thınk you solved problem
[10:33] <adminus> thanks m8, i think i've managed ;)
[10:33] <ikonia> perpetual: is /dev/sda1 your root file system ?
[10:33] <perpetual> ikonia, right. I had an old disk, wanted to move system to new disk.
[10:33] <tntCry> ikonia, is dreamwaver available for ubuntu?
[10:33] <ikonia> tntCry: no
[10:33] <greencoo1ie> Does Ubuntu come shipped with a built in Address Book?
[10:33] <tntCry> any similar app  ikonia ?
[10:33] <tntCry> or better..
[10:33] <adminus> will it apply only after reboot?
[10:33] <tuet> I am trying to get ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop. getting "exception Emask" errors
[10:33] <perpetual> ikonia, no, /dev/sda6. kernel command line in grub says root=/dev/sda6
[10:34] <tuet> any ideas how to install ubuntu?
[10:34] <ikonia> tntCry: thats personal opinion, check through synatpic for web editors,
[10:34] <ikonia> tuet: put the cd in, boot from it, click install
[10:34] <tntCry> scguy318, do you build sites?
[10:34] <tuet> tried live cd and upgrade from 7.04
[10:34] <ikonia> perpetual: as a test, on the livecd and you boot from the live cd and mount it ok ?
[10:34] <tuet> thanks ikonia
[10:34] <bullgard4> tuet: Yes. Get an Ubuntu CD.
[10:34] <tuet> have
[10:34] <tuet> fails
[10:34] <greencoo1ie> tuet: didnt the upgrade from Fiesty go smoothly?
[10:34] <greencoo1ie> I did it that way.
[10:34] <tntCry> scguy318, when i tried ssh nothing happened my terminal just frooze on the line its like non responding after trying to connect , i think my server settings is wrong?
[10:34] <tuet> nope
[10:34] <tuet> same errors
[10:35] <scguy318> tntCry: not really
[10:35] <perpetual> ikonia, I put both disks in, recreated partitions on new disk; bind-mounted the old partitions and carefully rsynced each old partition over to its new counterpart
[10:35] <scguy318> tntCry: you are connecting on the correct port right?
[10:35] <tuet> exception Emask x SAct x SErr x
[10:35] <tuet> ata1.00: cmd blah blah balh
[10:35] <tntCry> any app you recommend for building sites somehting similar or better then dreamwaver ? scguy318
[10:35] <scguy318> tntCry: and are you behind some sort of proxy that's obstructing access to the Internet?
[10:35] <perpetual> ikonia, yes, I already used the live CD. I can mount all partitions, old and new fine.
[10:35] <scguy318> tntCry: not really, I'm clueless in the area :P
[10:35] <larsemil> is Open office novell edition available for ubuntu somewhere?
[10:35] <tntCry> scguy318, yes im behind someport that is obstructing access to the internet
[10:36] <porkpie> iknoia:so from a prompt I just type JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00
[10:36] <ikonia> perpetual what is the difference between the machines ? I'm wondering if something is in modules.conf that conflicts with your disk controller making the disk non-accessable by the kernel /
[10:36] <OIM> huh
[10:36] <ikonia> porkpie: if thats your path, yes
[10:36] <greencoo1ie> Does anyone have a standalone address book or do you use evolution?
[10:36] <porkpie> OK
[10:36] <OIM> ı cant do ıt
[10:36] <porkpie> thansk
[10:36] <genjix> vox, i mean in grub btw
[10:36] <ikonia> porkpie: that looks an unusual path
[10:36] <tntCry> scguy318,  a port which connects to a server and server which does the job and says which am i allowed or not
[10:36] <jrib> OIM: can't do what exactly?
[10:36] <perpetual> ikonia, it is the same machine. I just wanted to move the system to a bigger, quieter disk.
[10:36] <bef> touch me
[10:36] <ikonia> perpetual: thats even more unusual
[10:36] <CyberMad> anyone here know well with VNC ? how to run VNC as silent mode.. so the user will not know if there is incoming VNC connection?
[10:37] <OIM> ı want to know that how can ı ınstall beryl
[10:37] <tntCry> CyberMad, who you hacking :p
[10:37] <jrib> !beryl | OIM
[10:37] <ubotu> OIM: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[10:37] <CyberMad> i want to do this not for fun or bad attitude
[10:37] <brobostigon> greencoo1ie: have a look at packages.ubuntu.com, thats shws all software for ubuntu, search thre.
[10:37] <ikonia> perpetual: are you still using the grub boot sector off the initial disk, or did you copy the boot sector across too
[10:37] <perpetual> ikonia, why? I had a small harddrive, and did not want to reinstall?
[10:37] <CyberMad> tntCry ah.. you're wrong... this is my boss ask me about spy
[10:37] <scguy318> tntCry: so theres a machine that acts as a filtering proxy?
[10:37] <porkpie> iknoia:I still get the same error :S
[10:37] <ikonia> perpetual: I meant it was unusual it was failing
[10:38] <CyberMad> i already use tightvnc on every windows
[10:38] <ikonia> porkpie: thats because yout path is not right
[10:38] <greencoo1ie> brobostigon: thnx pal
[10:38] <ikonia> perpetual: are you still using the grub boot sector off the initial disk, or did you copy the boot sector across too
[10:38] <OIM> but ı download all packages for beryl 2.00
[10:38] <scguy318> tntCry: if thats the case use PuTTY and specify the proxy
[10:38] <ikonia> OIM: beryl is dead
[10:38] <perpetual> ikonia, when I had copied everything over to the new disk (with rsync), I installed grub on that disk.
[10:38] <CyberMad> i tried the built-in remote desktop on ubuntu, but it display a popup about someone connect to it
[10:38] <ikonia> perpetual: out of interest (you may have done this) can you dissconnect the old disk and make sure its booting from grub on the new disk
[10:39] <OIM> so what will you offer for effects
[10:39] <tntCry> ok :)
[10:39] <tntCry> i will try
[10:39] <ikonia> OIM: compiz-fusion as jrib has said a few times to you
[10:39] <perpetual> ikonia, by means of chrooting in the right partition, mounting the other filesystems, and /proc, /dev, /sys. Then ran grub, said root=(hd1,0), setup (hd1)
[10:39] <tntCry> is theyr a putty server aswell ?
[10:39] <tntCry> scguy318,
[10:39]  * porkpie is struggling to workout why ubuntu is having problems with setting JAVA_HOME
[10:39] <scguy318> tntCry: no
[10:39] <scguy318> tntCry: PuTTY and related apps are just clients
[10:40] <ikonia> perpetual: ahhhh that can be a problem. not %100 but it can be. Disconnect the old disk to make sure grub is booting ok from the new disk.
[10:40] <OIM> alright thank
[10:40] <perpetual> ikonia, the problem is in the initrd file
[10:40] <ikonia> porkpie: its not - you are. You're setting the wrong path
[10:40] <ikonia> perpetual: are you %100 ?
[10:40] <porkpie> ikonia:I don't see how
[10:40] <bododo> hi folks :)
[10:41] <bododo> I'm having troubles with wifi on my GG with an ibook G4 ppc
[10:41] <porkpie> ikonia:the jvm is locate  at /usr/lib/jvm/
[10:41] <ikonia> porkpie: your setting the wrong path
[10:41] <jrib> porkpie: why are you setting it at all?
[10:41] <bododo> is anyone here using an ibook?
[10:41] <perpetual> ikonia, I already did that. Only new disk connected: grub boots fine. Loads kernel, loads initrd, but cannot find root device
[10:41] <ikonia> porkpie: thats not what java_home is for
[10:41] <ikonia> perpetual: ok, I'm just checking.
[10:41] <brobostigon> bododo: i have ibook g3
[10:41] <porkpie> ikonia:so what do I need to set
[10:41] <bododo> brobostigon: you have wifi working?
[10:41] <OIM> ı love thıs program
[10:41] <brobostigon> i do
[10:42] <bododo> brobostigon: with a broadcom?
[10:42] <perpetual> ikonia, I think the reason is that system-specific stuff is in that initrd. Like libata module, or UUID numbers for _old_ harddisk partitions or whatever.
[10:42] <porkpie> jrib:oot@devel:/var/www/siteinvoice/jbilling/bin# ./run.sh
[10:42] <porkpie> run.sh: Missing file: /lib/tools.jar
[10:42] <porkpie> run.sh: Unexpected results may occur.  Make sure JAVA_HOME points to a JDK and not a JRE.
[10:42] <brobostigon> i have a zd1211rw: bododo
[10:42] <bododo> I have ibook G4 with a bcm 4318 and i'm having troubles with it. The signal is null when I'm at 2 meters away from the router
[10:43] <scguy318> bododo: try ndiswrapper
[10:43] <scguy318> bododo: the restricted drivers for Broadcom kinda suck
[10:43] <bododo> brobostigon: I see :)
[10:43] <bododo> scguy318: impossible, i'm on ppc
[10:43] <porkpie> jrib:did you see the post
[10:43] <OIM> ı want to ask 1 more questıon
[10:43] <bododo> scguy318: yes, but i used the airportextreme driver shipped with OS X
[10:43] <scguy318> bododo: ah
[10:43] <OIM> every day prog makes update
[10:43] <jrib> porkpie: yes, is that script just looking directly for /lib/tools.jar?
[10:44] <bododo> yes, better than fwcutter bcm one
[10:44] <OIM> my hdd will be full so on
[10:44] <scguy318> bododo: mm, I'm not knowledgeable with Ubuntu on PPC unfortunately :(
[10:44] <Taggard> Anyone know how to get my Apple Keyboard buttons working in Ubuntu Gusty?
[10:44] <bododo> but man! when near (2 meters) from the router it works, farer, it doesn't :(
[10:44] <bododo> scguy318: thanks anyway :)
[10:44] <sjoerd> bododo: heh, you can't use the OS X driver under linux.. It's even not really advisible as the OS X firmware might not be fully compatible with the driver
[10:44] <porkpie> jrid:/var/www/siteinvoice/jbilling/bin# locate tools.jar
[10:45] <melz> hi everyone!!
[10:45] <bododo> sjoerd: I used that firmware and it works when i'm near the router
[10:45] <melz> i have just installed gusty!!
[10:45] <bododo> sjoerd: the open one (fwcutter bcm) doesn't simply work
[10:45] <porkpie> jrid:"/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/lib/tools.jar
[10:45] <perpetual> ikonia, I know how to open a initrd.img file by hand, but how can I fix this root device problem?
[10:45] <jrib> porkpie: and my question?
[10:45] <melz> and in firefox, sound in flash objects, and also other opbjects, ie embedded mp3s, works for a while, then stops, liek, no sound in youtube
[10:45] <bododo> anyone else using a ppc? :(
[10:45] <brobostigon> i am
[10:46] <melz> anyone know how I can fix this?
[10:46] <porkpie> jrib:I must have missed the question ?
[10:46] <brobostigon> bododo: try ubuntu-powerpc
[10:46] <sjoerd> bododo: I've got a powerbook myself, running debian though.. But that works fine with the standard kernel driver and the fwcutter firmware
[10:46] <bododo> brobostigon: I'm there, but how silent is it :(
[10:46] <jrib> porkpie: yes, is that script just looking directly for /lib/tools.jar ie an absolute path?
[10:47] <jxxt> perpetual, My two bobs worth.. Kernel is panic over /0,0 grub is offering /1,0
[10:47] <porkpie> jrib:I have know  idea .....   can I pastebin the script
[10:47] <bododo> sjoerd: I tried it :( but you know the support depends on the wifi card actually, here I got a bcm4318 and it's not well supported
[10:47] <bododo> sjoerd: the fwcutter even says that
[10:47] <jrib> porkpie: sure
[10:47] <blackfox_> how can i install file .exe at wine?
[10:47] <sjoerd> bododo: right, mine is a BCM4306, that might help
[10:48] <jrib> !wine > blackfox_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[10:48] <bododo> sjoerd: yes, this one is well supported... look at the bcm fwcutter website, they have a list
[10:48] <bododo> sjoerd: that's why i'm using the apple firmware
[10:48] <porkpie> jrib:http://pastebin.ca/802517
[10:49] <jrib> porkpie: you did not set JAVA_HOME then
[10:49] <bododo> see you guys :)
[10:49] <brobostigon> by
[10:49] <caki> zdr
[10:49] <nalpha> guys how to manage services running automatically like in windows " msconfig "
[10:50] <jrib> porkpie: I suspect you are not exporting the variable
[10:50] <porkpie> jrib:shall I set it in the script
[10:50] <brobostigon> nalpha: system/prefs/sessions
[10:50] <nalpha> brobostigon: exact url
[10:50] <jrib> porkpie: no, just do 'export JAVA_HOME=foo' in your shell
[10:51] <zetheroo> is it true that CMYK is not featured in the GIMP?
[10:51] <gaten> nalpha: or System->Administration->Services might be what you're looking for
[10:51] <brobostigon> nalpha: system/administration/services
[10:51] <nalpha> gaten: sry.. but i'm looling for CLI , cause I'm remote my server using ssh...
[10:51] <jhaig> zetheroo: Yes.  I believe that there are legal reasons behind it.
[10:52] <gaten> nalpha: ahh. well, sounds like you'll have to start/stop em from /etc/init.d/
[10:52] <zetheroo> jhaig: but there are plugins right?
[10:52] <perpetual> zetheroo, yes. but it is present in cinepaint, a gimp version for film
[10:52] <nalpha> brobostigon: I'm looking for the CLI, do you know that..
[10:52] <nalpha> gaten: it's just stop for a while, or it will stop forever?
[10:52] <brobostigon> nalpha, i didnt know that.
[10:52] <zetheroo> perpetual: can you use cinepaint for the same stuff you would use the GIMP for?
[10:52] <nalpha> brobostigon: thanx..
[10:53] <melz> and in firefox, sound in flash objects, and also other opbjects, ie embedded mp3s, works for a while, then stops, liek, no sound in youtube
[10:53] <brobostigon> nalpha, can you run progs with x over ssh??
[10:53] <porkpie> jrib:I did try that earlier and it didn't work?   Not is working  ....thanks for your help
[10:53] <gaten> nalpha: no, that will stop for a while. i believe you could remove the executable bit from the script in the init.d/ directory to stop it perm, but i could be wrong. i take it you don't want to just uninstall it?
[10:54] <perpetual> zetheroo, ehh define stuff. It looks the same to me, but I hardly use either. There is no legal reason that cmyk could not be supported. But it will be a major redesign, not just a simple plugin.
[10:54] <scguy318> brobostigon: yes
[10:54] <Csaba> im still stuck getting trash bin and show desktop icons onto avant dock, what am i doing wrong
[10:54] <scguy318> brobostigon: ssh -X ...
[10:54] <gaten> nalpha: see /etc/init.d/README
[10:54] <nalpha> brobostigon: no.. i cant... its CLI...
[10:54] <nalpha> gaten: i try
[10:55] <brobostigon> nalpha: have a look at packages.ubuntu.com, see if you can find a cli prog rthere to do it>
[10:55] <perpetual> zetheroo, color management, color spaces and bit-depth per channel are not simply add-ons for a program like gimp. It defines the core.
[10:55] <zetheroo> perpetual: this is what the GIMP wiki says : GIMP also has a palette with RGB, HSV, color wheel, CMYK, and mixing modes, plus tools to pick colors from the image with various averaging options.
[10:57] <abhi> i want to buy a new NOKIA phone. which model integrates best with Ubuntu? I would be interested in PIM features.
[10:57] <nalpha> gaten:  brobostigon : I found it, It's just remove the link in /etc/rcx.d/ so the system will not be startup spesific items again
[10:57] <brobostigon> ok
[10:58] <gaten> nalpha: you can rename the link to have a 'K' in front of it. that's what the readme says to do
[10:58] <nalpha> gaten: but I'm confuse there is much of rcx , what should i choose
[10:59] <magnaram> wenas
[10:59] <magnaram> cual es el comando para hacer particiones?
[10:59] <abhi> anyone answer my question?
[10:59] <magnaram> a
[11:00] <gaten> nalpha: thats the different run levels. you'll want the name of the service, obviously.
[11:00] <nalpha> abhi: I never imagine that NOKIA can integrated with ubuntu
[11:00] <kondrix> can i transform .jpg or .bmp file to .svg (icon image file) somehow?
[11:00] <jrib> !es | magnaram
[11:00] <ubotu> magnaram: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[11:00] <pubo> Hi all
[11:00] <nalpha> gaten: in each folder there is same name,link,...
[11:01] <gaten> nalpha: they all point to the same script in init.d/?
[11:01] <jrib> kondrix: I'm sure inkscape can probably import
[11:02] <kondrix> jrib: inkscape is an application?
[11:02] <nalpha> gaten: i think yes
[11:02] <jrib> kondrix: yep
[11:02] <jrib> !info inkscape | kondrix
[11:02] <ubotu> kondrix: inkscape: vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45.1-1ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 10495 kB, installed size 45936 kB
[11:03] <abhi> nalpha: i want to sync my nokia with evolution
[11:03] <gaten> nalpha: then i would try removing the executable bit from that script and see if that works
[11:03] <abhi> nalpha: and i just found that it is indeed possible to do so
[11:04] <nalpha> abhi: as i Am, I don't know... maybe others knows, but if you not receive any answer, it's maybe others don't know or is busy.. :)
[11:04] <kondrix> jrib thank you
[11:06] <pubo> I have a problem mounting devices... I have an USB HDD, and when I plug it, xubuntu recognices it and mount it, but if I do a reboot, I have to unplug and plug in again to have an automatic mounting, or I have to do an "mount -a"
[11:06] <ikonia> pubo: probably a udev trigger not being picked up on boot
[11:07] <pubo> ikonia, I can I solve it?
[11:07] <pubo> I'm under xubuntu
[11:07] <ikonia> pubo: not sure to be honest, not sure how hal interacts and auto mounts under xubuntu, only really understand gnome
[11:08] <ikonia> pubo: someone in #xubuntu may have a better understanding of hal -> xfce intergration
[11:09] <pubo> ikonia, oki.. thanks :D
[11:09] <melz> well, seeing as you mention it...
[11:10] <melz> i'm using gutsy, i have a usb drive with 1 ntfs partition and a fat32 partition
[11:10] <melz> when I plug it in it only auto mounts the fat32, says error cannot mount blahblah (the htfs drive)
[11:10] <melz> anyone know how to fix??
[11:10] <ikonia> melz: blah blah blah is usless
[11:10] <ikonia> melz: need info
[11:10] <melz> or even manually mount it, coz im stupid and idk how
[11:10] <ikonia> not random jibbersish
[11:10] <melz> um
[11:11] <melz> blahblah=- drive name
[11:11] <melz> like
[11:11] <ikonia> melz: and do you mean ntfs
[11:11] <jxxt> melz, ntfs3g i think
[11:11] <melz> 240gntfs
[11:11] <ikonia> jxxt: thats not a drive name
[11:11] <ikonia> melz: can you please confirm
[11:11] <melz> the name i set set for the volume
[11:11] <melz> 1x set
[11:11] <melz> blerk sorry
[11:11] <ikonia> melz: can you please confirm the exact error
[11:11] <jxxt> ikonia, sorry my bad
[11:12] <CyberMad> does anyone here know about NoMachine NX ? does it use VNC protocol ?
[11:12] <ikonia> CyberMad: no
[11:12] <melz> Cannot mount volume
[11:12] <ikonia> CyberMad: it doesn't
[11:12] <CyberMad> i see.. thanks
[11:12] <ikonia> melz: thats the full error ?
[11:13] <IdleOne> CyberMad: #nx
[11:13] <melz> ikonia, Unable to mount the volume '260GNTFS'.
[11:13] <ikonia> melz: thats all you get ?
[11:13] <melz> ikonia, yes, all im doing is pluggin it in
[11:13] <McMenace> hi
[11:13] <ikonia> melz: and thats all the error message you get
[11:13] <Brazilian_Joe> What's the best way to do a one-way folder sync automagically (periodically, without user intervention) to a windows file server?
[11:13] <melz> ikonia, plz excuse my noobish, bred from windowz ignorance
[11:13] <ikonia> Brazilian_Joe: rsync
[11:13] <McMenace> iam trying to install ubuntu 7.10 on a software raid1
[11:13] <melz> yes ikonia
[11:14] <ikonia> melz: there is nothing noobish about telling me an error
[11:14] <Brazilian_Joe> ikonia: What if rsync is fscking up non-ASCII characters?
[11:14] <ikonia> melz: can you please put the output of "mount" into a pastebin please.
[11:14] <melz> ikonia, that is the error i get when i oplug it in, the fat32 partition mounts fine
[11:14] <ikonia> Brazilian_Joe: why would it ?
[11:14] <McMenace> tryed to set up the raid1 during installation (partitioning) by partitioning the two sata drives the same way and than seting up a raid1
[11:14] <tuet> right I have found my error on the internet. But noone seems to know the solution. Heres a link to the error I get. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588153  This happens when I try to install from gutsy CD and when I distupgrade from a clean fiesty install...hence its not a CD error....Any ideas??
[11:14] <Brazilian_Joe> dunno, mismatched codepages maybe
[11:15] <ikonia> Brazilian_Joe: it shouldn't bork,
[11:15] <McMenace> but while setting up software raid i get the error 'nu unused partitons of the type "linux raid autodetected" ..."
[11:15] <melz> ikonia, i am not sure of the output of "mount" as I am trying to "mount" it by simply plugging the drive in, it used to work like that. can u plz tell me how to mount maually
[11:15] <ikonia> melz open a terminal, type "mount" and put the output in a pastebin
[11:16] <IdleOne> melz: open a terminal and type mount
[11:16] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[11:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:17] <melz> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/f3c6f1404
[11:18] <ikonia> melz: "sudo mkdir /media/ntfs; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/ntfs"
[11:20] <melz> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/f55b1e670
[11:20] <melz> should i do that :-S
[11:20] <melz> it used to work by itself!! blerk :(
[11:20] <nicholas_> well
[11:20] <ikonia> melz: thats interesting it thinks its already mounted
[11:20] <tuet> anyone got any ideas on the Emask error I posted? I am totally at a loss...
[11:21] <melz> ikonia, i did plug and unplug a few times, trying to get it to work
[11:21] <nanbudh> how can i change my pythonpath to point to django bin folder?
[11:22] <jxxt> ikonia, melz, it say to try the "force" option
[11:22] <ikonia> jxxt: why force it
[11:22] <melz> yes ok jxxt, any ideas why it would suddenly stop automounting as it usually would tho?
[11:22] <ikonia> jxxt: that could cause corruption
[11:23]  * brobostigon just had a very nice bath, and had an interesting idea whilest he was there.
[11:23] <jxxt> ikonia, melz, it say to try the "force" option
[11:23] <ikonia> melz: can you please show me the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" please.
[11:23] <OIM> how can ı gıve cube desktop effect
[11:23] <ikonia> jxxt: why would you do that, it has a risk of corruption
[11:23] <jxxt> ikonia, melz, Hmnn OK. but it says it will not mount without..
[11:23] <ikonia> jxxt: thats not what it says, re-read it
[11:24] <melz> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/d28a877be
[11:24] <jxxt> ikonia, melz, going now
[11:24] <mosno> sorry to ask in here but can you revert Kubuntu's KDE to a regular 3.5 (not quasi-4.0 with Dolphin as default filemanager)?
[11:24] <saimon> hi all, anyone know if you can customize the bash keyboard shortcuts?
[11:24] <melz> hmm cya jxxt
[11:24] <open_lad> WOW , FOSS NEPAL COmmunity WON BEST SFD2007 event competition. GUD LUCK, CONGtatulation
[11:24] <brobostigon> by melz
[11:25] <melz> brobostigon, i aingt goin nowhere :P
[11:25] <ikonia> open_lad: this is a support channel for the ubuntu OS only
[11:25] <brobostigon> sorry
[11:25] <Crayzaight> Hello, I need some help here. I am using VMware and had Ubuntu 5.1 installed, everything worked fine. Now I updated to 7.10 and it doesn't find my usb pci card. I have been looking everywhere and haven't found a solution yet
[11:25] <tuet> lol
[11:25] <melz> ikonia, the icon thingy for the drive shows in the side panel in nautilus, but nothing happens when i click it
[11:25] <jxxt> ikonia, melz, i meant going to read. I still see denied and two choices
[11:26] <ikonia> jxxt: if you don't understand, don't say anything
[11:27] <jxxt> ikonia, I think that is unfair......
[11:27] <ikonia> melz: what appears to be happening is that the volume is marked as dirty for what ever reason (maybe pulled in and out a lot). You can either mount using the ntfs-3g driver rather than the NTFS driver, and remove the file that marks is as dirty (I'll investigate that for you) or b.) boot into windows and defrag/scan disk it to try to mark it as "clean"
[11:27] <melz> jxxt thanks for ur help
[11:27] <ikonia> jxxt: its not - your suggesting someone do something potentially dangerous
[11:27] <melz> ikonia, ughhhh boot windows... heh DO I HAVE TO ??:p
[11:28] <ikonia> melz: what is the problem with booting windows ?
[11:28] <melz> ikonia, that drive isn't a windows boot drive
[11:28] <melz> hrmmm
[11:28] <ps3noob> Hi everyone. is there a channel for ubuntu on ps3?
[11:28] <ikonia> melz: I didn't say it was a boot drive. It is an NTFS drive which windows has native support for as a file system
[11:28] <melz> ikonia it worked fine yesterday
[11:28] <ikonia> ps3noob: its an unofficial distro
[11:28] <jxxt> ikonia, Not true I was simply reading back from his report. There is no way I would maliciously damage some ones system
[11:28] <ikonia> melz: did you read what I've just put "it's marked as dirty" it may not have been marked as dirty yesterday
[11:28] <Crayzaight> Anyone have time to help me with my problem?
[11:28] <yassine> good morning everyone
[11:29] <ikonia> jxxt: I didn't say it was maliciously but as I said, if you don't understand, don't say anything
[11:29] <Crayzaight> good morning yassine
[11:29] <melz> ikonia what do u mean "dirty" like it has a corrupt file or something??
[11:29] <ikonia> melz: yes, not corrupt, but not unmounted cleanly
[11:29] <melz> hrmmmm ok ikonia
[11:29] <yassine> any idea how i can upgrade a package to a new version which is not flaged as a stable ubuntu release yet?(in my case i want moinmoin 1.6 since it solves some bugs im having here)
[11:29] <jxxt> ikonia, OK. zipped! :(
[11:29] <Parsi> Hardy Heron is in development?
[11:30] <ikonia> Parsi: yes it is
[11:30] <melz> thanks ikonia
[11:30] <ikonia> yassine: is it in the development repos ?
[11:30] <pubo> melz, in NTFS volumes, you have to do a clean unmounting because if not, in next try to mount, it would'nt mount it
[11:30] <Parsi> ikonia: is it stable?
[11:30] <IdleOne> Parsi: and not ready for prime time
[11:30] <vavincavent_> hi all
[11:30] <ikonia> Parsi: not if its in the development repo, no
[11:30] <Mithshark> how would I bind iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to 2080 to a single ip ?
[11:30] <yassine> ikonia: tbh i dont really know how can i find that out?
[11:30] <ps3noob> ikonia: thanks. Is there a equivalency between videomode (720i) and display resolution (1680x1050)?
[11:30] <melz> pubo, even after rebooting?
[11:30] <ikonia> Mithshark: use either source argument or -i $interface
[11:30] <erUSUL> yassine: installing from source or maybe there are updated packages in backports or/and proposed
[11:30] <Mithshark> i tried
[11:31] <goban_> what opens .daa files besides poweriso? their site is down so i cant download it
[11:31] <Parsi> ikonia: when it will be READY?
[11:31] <askand> The musicplayer Banshee is autostarting on login! Cant understand whats wrong? How do I fix?
[11:31] <ikonia> Parsi I don't know.
[11:31] <IdleOne> !hardy | Parsi
[11:31] <Mithshark> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --source ip --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to 2080
[11:31] <ubotu> Parsi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:31] <Mithshark> would that not be correct?
[11:31] <pubo> melz, yes
[11:31] <erUSUL> askand: maybe you added it to your session... System>Prefs>Sessions
[11:31] <melz> ok thanks pubo, and ikonia, sorry for my stupidity :D
[11:31] <Crayzaight> I need help with ubuntu 7.10 recognizing my pci-usb card
[11:32] <[Ramy]> Firefox 3 beta 1 replaces firefox 2 , how can i run them at the same time :) ?
[11:32] <pubo> melz, now, the best choice is to plug the HD into a Windows, mount it, and unmount it cleanly
[11:32] <jsoft> Heh, I fell asleep
[11:32] <askand> erUSUL:  No I havent..thats what is so strange..
[11:32] <ikonia> [Ramy]: thats not advisable
[11:32] <melz> ok!! pubo, brb :D
[11:32] <jsoft> Erm, the nz mirror for ubuntu is down.. connection refused...
[11:32] <pubo> melz, under linux, you can force to mount the drive, but it's dangerous
[11:32] <pubo> melz, dangerous for the data, not for the HD
[11:32] <[Ramy]> ikonia , but i don't want to loose the stability of FF 2 and the speed of 3 ?
[11:32] <ikonia> jxxt: are you reading what pubo is saying, hence why I asked you to not speak or advise someone if you didn't understand
[11:32] <Mithshark> ikonia would that not be the correct place for it?
[11:33] <ikonia> Mithshark: for what ?
[11:33] <Mithshark> the source
[11:33] <Mithshark> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --source ip --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to 2080
[11:33] <ps3noob>  Is there a equivalency between videomode (720i) and display resolution (1680x1050)?
[11:33] <ikonia> [Ramy]: they conflict
[11:33] <jsoft> pubo: rumour has it, that it can possibly melt the HDD! ;)
[11:33] <jxxt> ikonia, I am and I aplogise..
[11:33] <ikonia> Mithshark: looks reasonable, I don't have the syntax off the top of my head
[11:33] <Chousuke> ps3noob: yes
[11:33] <Parsi> what is "jeos"?
[11:33] <Mithshark> hmm having difficulties, nt that it matters but its not even Ubuntu :P
[11:33] <ikonia> jxxt: no need to be apologietic, I just wanted you to be aware that be advising people without understand could have wrecked his drive. I wasn't being harsh
[11:34] <[Ramy]> ikonia,  but in FF 3 alpha8 is in ubuntu repository what about FF 3 beta 1 ?
[11:34] <Chousuke> ps3noob: 720i means 1280x720 interlaced (alternates between every other line) resolution
[11:34] <ikonia> [Ramy]: what about it ?
[11:34] <ps3noob> Chousuke. Where can i get some more info? tried wikipedia but efortless.
[11:34] <Crayzaight> my pci-usb card got recognized under v5.10 and shows there too with lspci but under 7.10 it doesn't show up anymore
[11:34] <ikonia> ps3noob: there is a link of ubuntu.com for info on the ps3 distro
[11:34] <Chousuke> ps3noob: progressive resolutions are better than interlaced, so use those if possible.
[11:34] <[Ramy]> ikonia , FF 3 alpha 8 does not conflict !!! , does the beta version will be in the repository ?
[11:35] <Chousuke> even though 1080i looks bigger than 720p, it's really not better ;(
[11:35] <ikonia> [Ramy]: what do you mean, does not conflict ?
[11:35] <Chousuke> I went through a lot of trouble to explain that to my friend, who insisted on using 1080i despite having a TV with a native resolution of 720p :|
[11:35] <[Ramy]> ikonia , they don't conflict
[11:36] <lex> but why bother with 720p when there's 1080p?
[11:36] <ikonia> [Ramy]: do what you want. the bottom line is the package replaces the old one
[11:36] <Chousuke> lex: well, if you can use 1080p, then go ahead
[11:36] <ps3noob> Chousuke. So for my 1680x1050@60Hz native resolution, DVI conneted (w HDCP) monitor, the videomode should be...
[11:36] <Chousuke> I don't think there's a name for that resolution :/
[11:37] <[Ramy]> ikonia , i want to run them simultaneously  :)
[11:37] <Chousuke> try 720p or 1080p and see how it scales.
[11:37] <lex> Chousuke, that was the joking point ;-p
[11:37] <ps3noob> Chousuke: LOL. Thanks. Great help :)
[11:37] <ikonia> [Ramy]: you can't
[11:38] <Crayzaight> Is my question too noobish or just too difficult to understand :(
[11:38] <jsoft> Damn I love ubuntu.
[11:38] <[Ramy]> ikonia , thanks :)
[11:38] <jsoft> Why did I not try this ages ago.
[11:39] <esperegu> anyone knows how to implement phone links?
[11:39] <Crayzaight> Can anyone help me please?
[11:40] <_6StringKng_> ask
[11:40] <segagman> lease directme to linux music free # if you know
[11:40] <_6StringKng_> the question
[11:40] <segagman> please*
[11:40] <pubo> jsoft, I hate it, but I love it too xDD
[11:40] <erUSUL> Crayzaight: that's very weird can you spot anything wrong in dmesg ??
[11:40] <jsoft> pubo: hate it?
[11:40] <Crayzaight> I had ubuntu 5.1 and now I installed 7.10 and it doesn't recognize my pci-usb host thingy
[11:40] <segagman> linux muse?
[11:41] <erUSUL> Crayzaight: maybe some irq .... whatever... nobody cared
[11:41] <Crayzaight> one sec i'll check it out erusul
[11:41] <segagman> gibbion sux
[11:41] <segagman> for now
[11:41] <_6StringKng_> no, it doesnt
[11:41] <_6StringKng_> lol
[11:41] <pubo> jsoft, everytime I upgrade, I have lot of unvelible problems... unveilible?
[11:41] <segagman> on my box(s)
[11:41] <segagman> fawn ran fine
[11:41] <jsoft> Hmm ok
[11:41] <segagman> on many
[11:42] <_6StringKng_> everytime I upgrade it gets better
[11:42] <segagman> read the statemet
[11:42] <segagman> free-share
[11:42] <_6StringKng_> I know
[11:42] <segagman> lol
[11:42] <IdleOne> segagman: do you have a ubuntu support related question ?
[11:42] <segagman> yes
[11:43] <segagman> how do i tri boot
[11:43] <_6StringKng_> edit the grub boot menu
[11:43] <_6StringKng_> add the os in question
[11:43] <Crayzaight> it says twice pci interrupt link disabled can I show you the dmesg in private?
[11:43] <IdleOne> you dont. there is no point get another pc dualboot on one and run third OS on the other
[11:43] <segagman> thats is not the only awanswer and yu know it
[11:44] <segagman> cross plat
[11:44] <melz> thanks to ikonia d00de it werkz now yay
[11:44] <_6StringKng_> I used to tri boot with Ubuntu, XP Pro, an dVista
[11:44] <_6StringKng_> and*
[11:44] <ikonia> melz: no problem
[11:44] <lex> you realized vista was worthless?
[11:45] <segagman> im dual boot vis and x
[11:45] <segagman> but it took me awle
[11:45] <IdleOne> vis and x?
[11:45] <segagman> sorry im internaional
[11:45] <segagman> not
[11:45] <IdleOne> probably because you tend to not complete your words when you type
[11:45] <_6StringKng_> lol
[11:46] <melz> nautilus seems to have trouble handling a folder with 10000+ files, is there anything that works a little better with alot of files?
[11:46] <ikonia> melz: in what way has trouble ?
[11:46] <lex> takes forever to load the thumbnail views? assuming they're pictures
[11:46] <ikonia> lex: yup, disable preview is where I was going
[11:46] <genjix> what do I need for opengl dev libraries?
[11:47] <genjix> libgl-dev does nothing
[11:47] <ikonia> genjix: why do you need opengl libraries
[11:47] <melz> ikonia, sloooooow, goes greyish color like it's frozen
[11:47] <melz> ikonia, lex they are mp3s
[11:47] <genjix> I work with 3d graphics
[11:47] <ikonia> melz: its downloading thumbnails, go into preferences in it and turn off preview
[11:47] <ikonia> melz: it still caches
[11:47] <perpetual> ikonia, do you have any pointers for my boot problem?
[11:47] <segagman> o ok im buzzed but in my buzzed stae i managed to  dual boot xp/vis edit mbr  and if i  do gnu.linux<ubuntu >grub  dise any1! have kboalge of descreptincez
[11:47] <segagman> ?
[11:47] <ikonia> perpetual: not, yours is very odd
[11:47] <ikonia> perpetual: I'm pondering your issue
[11:48] <ikonia> segagman: I don't understand your question. What language do you speak ?
[11:48] <IdleOne> segagman: go to sleep and come back in 6 hours when your not so buzzed
[11:48] <melz> ikonia, it "caches" mp3s?
[11:48] <perpetual> ikonia, do you think I'm incorrect thinking I need to adapt the initrd ?
[11:48] <genjix> what is up with ubuntu? how can I install the development package for OpenGL?
[11:48] <soundray> melz: yes, it does
[11:48] <ikonia> melz: yes for preview
[11:48] <IdleOne> ikonia: that is drunk type
[11:48] <ikonia> perpetual: personal opinion, yes, but thats only from what you've said. You could very well be right
[11:49] <Crayzaight> can someone help me analyze my dmsg for the problem with my pci card?
[11:49] <ikonia> Crayzaight: your using vmware arn't you ?
[11:49] <mmkassem> melz: did you try mounting readonly (ro) ?
[11:49] <perpetual> genjix, try search with apt-cache search <something>. Development (header files, libs) package end in dev
[11:49] <Crayzaight> ikonia: yeah but as i said it worked fine with 5.1
[11:49] <ikonia> why would mounting read onlny change anytrhing
[11:49] <genjix> yes i did
[11:49] <soundray> perpetual: can you describe your problem again for me?
[11:50] <ikonia> Crayzaight: join #vmware for vmware support
[11:50] <pubo> Oh, damn it!!! The problem with the USB mount devices ins not with mount, udev, or else... Just with all USB devices!!!. I've connected an USB mouse... If I reboot, I have to unplug and plug it again to xubuntu recognices it.... How could I solve it???
[11:50] <segagman> ok f it ill do it my self u all ail no help as use all popas assez mind u my friend waht we coukd of shared could have beter the would it self
[11:50] <ikonia> soundray: its a good one
[11:50] <genjix> there is many thousands of packages with gl and dev
[11:50] <segagman> the year of linux
[11:50] <melz> mmkassem, no, not sure how, noob here
[11:50] <Crayzaight> thx
[11:50] <soundray> ikonia: it must be, if it has you pondering :)
[11:50] <ikonia> pubo: I've alread told you the issue
[11:50] <genjix> even one called libgl-dev but it doesn#t create /usr/include/GL
[11:50] <segagman> bash
[11:50] <genjix> it does nothing
[11:50] <ikonia> pubo: yes you still keep asking
[11:50] <perpetual> soundray, sure. I have one machine, with a old noisy disk. I wanted to move it to a new disk in the same machine.
[11:50] <ikonia> genjix: is there an include package
[11:50] <wild_oscar> hi
[11:51] <ikonia> hi
[11:51] <genjix> include package? I don't know.
[11:51] <Abu-Aadam> where is the port setting for evolution
[11:51] <Abu-Aadam> I want to change the port for my imap and smtp servers
[11:51] <wild_oscar> is anyone else having problems with evolution crashing?
[11:51] <ikonia> Gnea: libgl-include or something like that, as the "lib" package is normally just the packagfe
[11:51] <wild_oscar> since the latest evolution update, yesterday
[11:51] <ikonia> genjix: sorry, that was for you
[11:51] <perpetual> soundray, this is what I did: put in new disk as secondary. Made same partitions as on old disk, created filesystems.
[11:51] <ikonia> genjix: opengl-dev ?
[11:51] <Abu-Aadam> wild_oscar: perhaps u can tell me how to change the port setting for my mail server in evolution
[11:51] <pubo> ikonia, I asked in #xubuntu, but I think it's a problem from ubuntu in general... not only for xubuntu, as is something relationated with USB ports :S
[11:51] <genjix> ikonia, no such package
[11:52] <ikonia> pubo: no, its to do with hal and udev
[11:52] <soundray> perpetual: transferred any data yet?
[11:52] <pubo> ikonia, hal and udev? thats sounds bad :S
[11:52] <perpetual> soundray, then I made a bind mount for each old filesystem (partition), and from those bind mounts, rsynced all data to each corresponding new filesystem.
[11:52] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What is meant by 'bug-sqatting' as in http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/06/0146209?
[11:52] <ikonia> pubo: the fact that the device CAN work means usb is working fine, its detection and how to deal with that dection and how it intergrates with the desktop thats the problem, as I said I don't understand hal with xubuntu, so I suggest you ask in there. If it was gnome I could help
[11:53] <Alloos1> hi, I keep loosing connection,
[11:53] <perpetual> soundray, then, in the new disk, changed UUID's in the fstab to /dev/ files, and also in the grub config.
[11:53] <ikonia> bullgard4: this is ubuntu support only. Please ask only ubuntu support related questions
[11:53] <perpetual> soundray, get it so far?
[11:53] <bullgard4> ikonia: This is Ubuntu related.
[11:53] <lex> genjix: you looking for opengl dev packages?
[11:53] <ikonia> bullgard4: no its not, this is ubuntu operating system support
[11:53] <genjix> yes
[11:53] <soundray> perpetual: yes. Please keep as much as possible on one line.
[11:53] <genjix> which one is it?
[11:54] <wild_oscar> Abu-Aadam: on your smtp server address, write smtp.address:port
[11:54] <genjix> lex, do you happen to know?
[11:54] <Crayzaight> ikonia: they tell me it's ubuntu related too they said if the card was recognized under 5.01 it should be under 7.10 too
[11:54] <ikonia> Crayzaight: its vmware related, not ubuntu related. Please ask in #vmware
[11:54] <IdleOne> bullgard4: I believe it means to decide if a bug is a true bug or not and the fixing the bug
[11:54] <wild_oscar> Abu-Aadam: (relevant part is adding : x, where x is the port number)
[11:55] <lex> genjix: there is: freeglut3, glutg3
[11:55] <Abu-Aadam> wild_oscar: for my imap server also?
[11:55] <genjix> glut is not opengl
[11:55] <Abu-Aadam> wild_oscar: doesn't seem to be working u sure that's official way to do it
[11:55] <genjix> glut is a layer on top of glu on top of gl
[11:55] <perpetual> soundray, sure. OK, so I installed grub in the new disks mbr: grub, root (hd1,0), setup (hd1). Then switched off machine, and physically put the new disk as primary ide. Rebooted, and grub boots, kernel loads, but the a kernel panic, cannot load block (0,0) from root device or somesuch.
[11:55] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 start on one laptop computer 5 s after the first INIT process a second one but none on my second laptop computer?
[11:56] <ikonia> bullgard4: different hardware
[11:56] <perpetual> soundray, so, I get beyond grub, system is there, but in the initrd, I run into problems.
[11:56] <bullgard4> ikonia: Your message is not helpful.
[11:56] <ikonia> bullgard4: it's the answer
[11:57] <ikonia> bullgard4: they are different hardware so will require different dection and boot options
[11:57] <bullgard4> IdleOne: Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
[11:58] <soundray> perpetual: did you put the old disk as secondary IDE?
[11:58] <wild_oscar> Abu-Aadam: I believe so
[11:58] <soundray> perpetual: or primary slave?
[11:58] <simplechat> hey. quick question. what function would i use to map a password into a /etc/passwd password?
[11:58] <ikonia> simplechat: passwd
[11:59] <simplechat> ikonia is it a 1-1 mapping?, and where would i find passwd
[11:59] <ikonia> simplechat: what do you want to do exectly
[11:59] <perpetual> soundray, no, not connected at all. But the ide disks are recognized as /dev/sd*, not /dev/hd* because of the new libata compatibility layer.
[12:00] <simplechat> basically i need to remotely auth clients using their username/password combo. I need a shared secret, so i was thinking of using the users password hash as a componant (as thats all i can get from /etc/shadow)
[12:00] <soundray> perpetual: so the new disk is now the only one in your system?
[12:00] <perpetual> soundray, exactly
[12:00] <soundray> perpetual: and it's connected as primary master?
[12:00] <ikonia> simplechat you can't auth against /etc/passwd without pam modules
[12:00] <perpetual> soundray, yes
[12:01] <simplechat> ikonia: pam lets me test a username/password hash
[12:01] <simplechat> *username/password for a login
[12:01] <simplechat> what i need is something that given a username, gives me back some token which i can generate on the client side.
[12:01] <abhi> how do i remove sudo privileges from a user?
[12:01] <simplechat> visudo
[12:01] <FaeLLe> in ubuntu livecd i can move the analog wheel up and down to adjust volume and push in to mute/unmute and it displays the same on the screen........ but no such luck in gentoo! anyone know what is it that allows this to be done?
[12:01] <soundray> perpetual: so grub finds the kernel and all, but the kernel fails to find the root partition?
[12:01] <bullgard4> Launchpad > Bugs includes at the beginning of each page a status line "Affects, Status, Importance, Assigned to." What values may take the varible 'Status'? How to interpret them?
[12:01] <perpetual> soundray, do you know if the initrd.img keeps any info about what the root device is?
[12:01] <FaeLLe> i have a laptop btw
[12:02] <perpetual> soundray, as you say.
[12:02] <Oli``> anyone know a simple CLI IMAP client?
[12:02] <perpetual> soundray, kernel panic
[12:02] <mmkassem> abhi: remove him/her from the admin group
[12:02] <soundray> perpetual: no, it doesn't, but grub normally passes a root=/dev/sdX parameter on the kernel lince
[12:02] <soundray> *line
[12:03] <perpetual> soundray, right now I'm trying to make sense of all those scripts in the initrd.img
[12:03] <soundray> perpetual: forget the initrd for now, it's not likely where your problem sits.
[12:03] <soundray> perpetual: how are you accessing the system at the moment?
[12:03] <Totiyo> salut
[12:03] <perpetual> soundray, I put root=/dev/sda6 on the kernel command line
[12:04] <perpetual> soundray, not, I'm at work now
[12:04] <simplechat> ikonia, so would pam let me do that? or what?
[12:04] <perpetual> soundray, but I have similar problems here, when trying to do imaging for a lot of desktops.
[12:04] <perpetual> soundray, but this is about my home system
[12:05] <soundray> perpetual: I would need to know the exact error message
[12:05] <rabidpoobear> hey guys, I have a hard drive problem.  My external is auto-mounting as /media/IOMEGA\ HD  and it's not giving group/world permissions, just user perms.  any idea what's causing that? (it's not NTFS)
[12:05] <perpetual> soundray, right. Well, I can do that tonight when I get home. It is 13:05 where I live.
[12:05] <devilsadvocate> rabidpoobear, i believe that is the default behaviour
[12:05] <brobostigon> hi
[12:06] <rabidpoobear> devilsadvocate: right, but I can't change the permissions once it's mounted
[12:06] <rabidpoobear> devilsadvocate: and I need it to be world-readable
[12:06] <soundray> perpetual: you're one hour ahead then :) -- one thing you could try is to pass root=UUID=yourrootuuid instead of root=/dev/sda6
[12:07] <devilsadvocate> rabidpoobear, i'm not entirely certain, but i think if you add it to the fstab it may mount correctly
[12:08] <perpetual> soundray, ok, but how do I get the UUID of the new disk?
[12:08] <soundray> perpetual: with the blkid command
[12:08] <rabidpoobear> devilsadvocate: okay, thanks, I'll try that :)
[12:09] <CyberMad> how to turn off popup that show "Another user is viewing your desktop" on remote desktop ?
[12:10] <perpetual> CyberMad, that is absolutely evil! That way you can spy on people without them knowing it !
[12:11] <soundray> perpetual: I guess that's the point
[12:11] <CyberMad> perpetual yes, that's the point..
[12:11] <CyberMad> perpetual my boss want to see all employee doing
[12:11] <perpetual> CyberMad, oh, allright then.
[12:12] <CyberMad> my boss already use VNC Manager on windows, it will show all computers.. but problem with ubuntu
[12:12] <CyberMad> any idea to hide the popup ?
[12:12] <perpetual> CyberMad, of course, without the popup you can still detect it, of course.
[12:13] <CyberMad> perpetual yes, i know.. if the employee is smart or know about computer
[12:13] <soundray> CyberMad: I think I would fix this problem via social engineering
[12:13] <CyberMad> perpetual it's same like tightvnc on wndows
[12:13] <brobostigon> look in the remote desktop dialog, and you should be able to disable that.
[12:13] <soundray> brobostigon: there isn't an option to remove the notification
[12:13] <CyberMad> brobostigon hmm... looks like can not
[12:14] <brobostigon> i thought there was, thats why i said that.
[12:14] <soundray> brobostigon: well, there isn't
[12:14] <brobostigon> ohwell
[12:14] <CyberMad> is there something system modification?
[12:15] <CyberMad> or should i use NoMachine NX
[12:15] <soundray> CyberMad: convince your boss that it's bad to spy on employees without them knowing
[12:15] <boris_> hi
[12:15] <perpetual> soundray, possibly illegal too.
[12:15] <CyberMad> soundray well, that's not my business.. i just doing what he told me
[12:16] <perpetual> CyberMad, well, why don't you tell him it is not possible?
[12:16] <soundray> CyberMad: that's wrong. Like perpetual says, this could even be illegal, and then you'd be guilty as much as your boss.
[12:16] <boris_> ive installed fglrx driver in ubuntu's repos and now when i try to play tremulous, screen is very dark and unnormal and i cant read textures. in true combat : elite i can read textures but screen is weird too
[12:17] <bazzieb> hey there, when i use swat and i click on any of the options to change the config, i get "404 File not found". Any suggestions??
[12:18] <atlfalcons866> should i run fsck after install windoze vista
[12:19] <soundray> atlfalcons866: no
[12:19] <perpetual> soundray, this whole initramfs, why is it needed anyway? Why not just recompile a kernel with everything in it for booting
[12:19] <atlfalcons866> but dosent windows modifiy stuff
[12:19] <soundray> atlfalcons866: no
[12:20] <perpetual> soundray, it seems just horribly complicated. Would the nice graphical boot progress bar be all that I lose?
[12:20] <genjix> soundray, how is it illegal when it is the companies resources?
[12:21] <h1st0> CyberMad: just use remote desktop in ubuntu.
[12:21] <h1st0> CyberMad: you can change it so that it doesn't notify them
[12:21] <bazzieb> hey there, when i use swat and i click on any of the options to change the config, i get "404 File not found". Any suggestions??
[12:22] <perpetual> genjix, because in some countries at least, there are laws to protect employees.
[12:22] <boris_> ive installed fglrx driver in ubuntu's repos and now when i try to play tremulous, screen is very dark and unnormal and i cant read textures. in true combat : elite i can read textures but screen is weird too
[12:22] <crazy-tictac> server irc.german-freakz.net
[12:22] <crazy-tictac> g
[12:22] <soundray> genjix: I am not a lawyer. I just happen to know that employees are entitled to some level of privacy, no matter what resources they are using, at least in some legislations.
[12:22] <SpeCon> hello
[12:23] <SpeCon> root@mieke-desktop:/home/mieke# mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.dash ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[12:23] <SpeCon> mv: ongeldige optie -- s
[12:23] <h1st0> soundray: not necessarily true.
[12:23] <SpeCon> this doesn't work :(
[12:23] <h1st0> !paste > SpeCon (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[12:23] <jrib> SpeCon: why do you want to do that?
[12:23] <perpetual> genjix, maybe an employee uses drugs. How far may the company go to find out? urine tests? ok. Bloodtests? probably not.
[12:23] <SpeCon> i want to install ISPconfig to test that software.
[12:23] <SpeCon> jrib, because off this http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9582&
[12:23] <soundray> genjix: by extension of your argument, a company could install webcams in the bathrooms and monitor employees in there.
[12:23] <SpeCon> ispconfig setup blocks on ubuntu
[12:23] <SpeCon> because of that dir
[12:24] <genjix> well in the school i went to they used to monitor your computers
[12:24] <soundray> h1st0: yes it is true. Note that I said "at least in some legislations"
[12:24] <bazzieb> hey there, when i use swat and i click on any of the options to change the config, i get "404 File not found". Any suggestions??
[12:24] <h1st0> You have no expectation of privacy on someone elses computer
[12:24] <h1st0> soundray: read the above
[12:24] <jrib> SpeCon: that's an issue with the script.  If it needs bash then it needs to specify that in the shebang line at the top.
[12:24] <SpeCon> ubuntu developers have replaced bash with DASH so the regular /bin/sh that is used to be linked to /bin/bash is now pointing to /bin/dash
[12:24] <SpeCon> thats why
[12:24] <genjix> it is sort of standard practice in business
[12:24] <SpeCon> jrib,  ?
[12:25] <SpeCon> so how do i fix this?
[12:25] <soundray> genjix: that doesn't mean that it is either legal or morally defensible
[12:25] <genjix> yes it is legal, come on.
[12:25] <idiosync> having trouble with flash everything is in slow motion sound video etc
[12:26] <h1st0> soundray: How can you possibly have an expectation of privacy on someone elses computer.
[12:26] <soundray> genjix: whether it is legal or not depends on the legislation. Where I am it is not legal.
[12:26] <jrib> SpeCon: no, the script uses bash-specific features, that is the problem.  The right way to fix it is to change "#!/bin/sh" to "#!/bin/bash" in the script.  Undo what you did above.  If you really want sh to be bash again, the proper (yet unnecessary) way to do it would be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[12:26] <h1st0> soundray: were are you?
[12:26] <genjix> UK?
[12:26] <soundray> h1st0: UK
[12:26] <h1st0> ahh
[12:26] <genjix> I am from the UK
[12:26] <SpeCon> oh i c :s
[12:26] <AutoMatriX> genjix, never mind, nobody's perfect
[12:27] <idefix> hi, I get 404 Not Found [IP: 213.136.29.196 80] when trying to upgrade.. how do I solve this?
[12:27] <genjix> Where in the law does it say it is illegal to monitor the computer of your employee?
[12:27] <genjix> AutoMatriX, :P
[12:27] <scguy318> idefix: remove the repo that's causing the 404
[12:27] <scguy318> idefix: in sources.list
[12:27] <boris_> how do i blacklist module Radeon ?
[12:27] <h1st0> idefix: you probably have a third party repo
[12:27] <boris_> if it's in use ?
[12:27] <h1st0> boris_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:28] <AutoMatriX> genjix, privacy protrection, I think
[12:28] <perpetual> genjix, there must be online lawbooks you can check. But this is now not very ubuntu related anymore.
[12:28] <genjix> its illegal in schools also?
[12:28] <SpeCon> jrib, : i did this mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.dash
[12:28] <SpeCon> and now i'm having problems :(
[12:28]  * jrib notes that law is offtopic, please move the discussion elsewhere
[12:28] <SpeCon> how to fix this again
[12:28] <jrib> SpeCon: move it back
[12:28] <boris_> h1st0 : and then ?
[12:28] <h1st0> SpeCon: why would you do a move why not just create a symlink
[12:28] <SpeCon> how
[12:28] <SpeCon> tell me
[12:28] <h1st0> boris_: add the module to that file.
[12:28] <jrib> SpeCon: mv /bin/sh.dash /bin/sh
[12:29] <SpeCon> ok
[12:29] <h1st0> boris_: edit the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file and add what ever module you want blacklisted.
[12:29] <h1st0> boris_: what are you trying to accomplish though?  Are you experiencing a problem?
[12:29] <boris_> h1st0 : yes. it seems like radeon module is only partially loaded and tremulous doesnt work
[12:30] <h1st0> boris_: what is tremulous?
[12:30] <SpeCon> jrib,  okay so how to fix the problem for ispconfig?
[12:30] <boris_> h1st0 : a game
[12:30] <jrib> SpeCon: no, the script uses bash-specific features, that is the problem.  The right way to fix it is to change "#!/bin/sh" to "#!/bin/bash" in the script.  Undo what you did above.  If you really want sh to be bash again, the proper (yet unnecessary) way to do it would be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash
[12:30] <h1st0> !ati > boris_ (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[12:30] <SpeCon> i c
[12:31] <SpeCon> so if i do sudo dpkg .... nothing will be destroyed?
[12:31] <punzada> I've fallen in love with bash scripting
[12:31] <punzada>  /swoon
[12:31] <jrib> SpeCon: no
[12:31] <SpeCon> k
[12:31] <SpeCon> maybe that will resolve the problem
[12:31] <h1st0> ughh
[12:32] <FaeLLe> can anyone pastebin me the keyboard map that ubuntu uses?
[12:34] <h1st0> !anyone > FaeLLe (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[12:35] <FaeLLe> but it was merged with the question already :p
[12:35] <soundray> FaeLLe: what's the problem you're trying to solve?
[12:36] <bullgard4> Launchpad > Bugs includes at the beginning of each page a status line "Affects, Status, Importance, Assigned to." What values may take the varible 'Status'? How to interpret them?
[12:36] <FaeLLe> soundray, my laptop has a analog wheel to raise/lower volume and mute if you push it in ........ in ubuntu livecd it works but not in gnome in gentoo so i guess its a matter of using the same keyboard map that the livecd uses
[12:36] <h1st0> bullgard4: you may want to ask the launchpad peeps
[12:37] <FaeLLe> soundray, i just want to figure out if that is what would give me the functionality
[12:37] <bullgard4> h1st0: Where can I approach launchpad peeps?
[12:37] <punzada> do you have acpi packages installed in gentoo FaeLLe ?
[12:38] <h1st0> bullgard4: i dunno maybe they have contact link on their page or something.
[12:38] <FaeLLe> punzada, yes sir
[12:38] <soundray> FaeLLe: open System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts and see if you can configure it there.
[12:38] <FaeLLe> soundray, yep i have configured them there
[12:38] <soundray> FaeLLe: and it's still not working?
[12:38] <FaeLLe> soundray, sadly :p
[12:38] <boris_> h1st0 : it doesnt help
[12:38] <boris_> boris@boris-desktop:~$ rmmod radeon
[12:38] <boris_> ERROR: Module radeon is in use
[12:39] <boris_> and it shouldnt be in use in the first place
[12:39] <soundray> FaeLLe: maybe you need to install keytouch, or maybe punzada has the answer for you
[12:40] <bullgard1> ^^
[12:40] <punzada> nope, I had a similar problem (extra keyboard keys not being recognized) and it was because I didn't have acpi installed
[12:40] <punzada> that was my only shot :P
[12:40] <FaeLLe> let me try the keytouch program
[12:41] <h1st0> boris_: did you read the message from ubotu about installing proper drivers?
[12:41] <boris_> h1st0 : i ignored it because i installed fglrx already and radeon driver seemed to delete it
[12:41] <boris_> so i tought that i gotta delete radeon driver first
[12:42] <boris_> ok ill try to install fglrx again
[12:42] <boris_> grrr
[12:42] <boris_> now it says that xorg.conf isnt valid or doesnt exist
[12:43] <idiosync> having trouble with flash everything is in slow motion sound video etc any ideas..?
[12:44] <OIM> what is happing
[12:44] <FaeLLe> netsplit
[12:44] <jrib> !netsplit
[12:44] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:45] <OIM> clever bot
[12:45] <althetuxman> oh what fun
[12:45] <boris_> please help me
[12:45] <h1st0> drhous1: do you get an error message as a normal user?
[12:45] <jurgentje> hehe... yeah, probably :s
[12:45] <jrib> !please > boris_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:46] <blackfox_> o.O?
[12:46] <h1st0> drhous1: looks like a permissions problem with /var/tmp/kdecache-vattam
[12:46] <dgjones> !netsplit > corruptionoflulz
[12:46] <boris_> look, is there any way to restore everything graphics related things like drivers and xorg to its default state ?
[12:46] <h1st0> drhous1: ty sudo mv /var/tmp/kdecache-vattam /var/tmp/kdecache-vattam.old  then try to launch it.
[12:46] <drhous1> h1st0:should i paste that error too?
[12:46] <x_zeuss> hi, i have a noob question: how do i copy folders with spaces "  " in terminal?
[12:47] <scguy318> boris_: generate a stock default xorg.conf? sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:47] <h1st0> x_zeuss: use tab to auto complete
[12:47] <scguy318> x_zeuss: escape with \
[12:47] <Daverocks> x_zeuss: either put quotes around the whole path, or a backslash ("\") before each space
[12:47] <althetuxman> cp /folder\ name /destination
[12:47] <x_zeuss> 10x :)
[12:47] <blackfox_> wine only have noteped?
[12:47] <scguy318> blackfox_: no, Wine is a compatibility layer
[12:48] <scguy318> blackfox_: notepad and winefile and the like are extra fun tools to further that compatibility
[12:48] <althetuxman> No. I thought it was a drink.
[12:48] <althetuxman> lol
[12:48] <blackfox_> oo
[12:48] <blackfox_> i dont know how to run
[12:48] <CyberMad> how to restore deleted file or folder on ubuntu?
[12:48] <blackfox_> very hard to understand
[12:48] <cool> how turn of internet on guest os in virtualbox?, both guest & host os are gutsy gibbon
[12:49] <nucco> can somebody tell me what gmcs is?
[12:49] <soundray> CyberMad: if it's deleted, it's deleted.
[12:49] <CyberMad> like example, i accidentally delete a username, i need to get my email (thunderbird) back
[12:49] <scguy318> cool: edit your VM settings
[12:49] <CyberMad> soundray ahh.. ;(
[12:49] <bullgard4> CyberMad: Generally not possible. You may try to find it in the Trash.
[12:49] <cool> scguy318, how & which settings?
[12:50] <scguy318> cool: like edit VM, network, something like that
[12:50] <althetuxman> hang on he said he deleted the user not the files
[12:50] <scguy318> cool: I don't have the VirtualBox UI in front of me
[12:50] <scguy318> cool: you probably want to switch networking from bridge to NAT or w/e
[12:50] <scguy318> cool: well, not NAT, private network
[12:50] <scguy318> cool: or the like
[12:50] <althetuxman> Cyberman: did u do a deluser or a rm -r of the users home files
[12:51] <blackfox_> my network cant use
[12:51] <cool> scguy318, wouldn't that disable networking between host & guest too?
[12:51] <sultam> есть хоть кто то на русском говорящий?
[12:51] <soundray> !ru | sultam
[12:51] <ubotu> sultam: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:51] <scguy318> cool: if you set private network no
[12:51] <man2> hi all.. :) greeting from a new_bee. or rather an old affiliate...
[12:51] <man2> let me thank the person in advance who is gonna be kind enough in addressing my issue..
[12:51] <man2> i have a realtek 5.1 sound system and ubntu did a great job in detected it.. my problem is the the sound is too LOW... i hav to put in full volume to be audible. plz help me in configuring it well..
[12:52] <scguy318> cool: I don't believe it will preclude communication with the host
[12:52] <cool> soundray, you did know which language it is?
[12:52] <nucco> man2: check your mixer settings
[12:52] <scguy318> man2: check your speaker cable? if its loose it will be loow
[12:52] <soundray> cool: the word русском gave it away
[12:52] <cool> scguy318, ok will try that now
[12:52] <bucimaci> hi all
[12:52] <man2> hi nucco.. i checked it and it's in full volumn
[12:52] <cool> soundray, what does that mean?
[12:53] <nucco> man2: there's also a 'PCM' slider
[12:53] <man2> yea... that too
[12:53] <soundray> cool: russkom (russian)
[12:53] <scguy318> man2: check your speaker cable? if its loose it will be loow
[12:53] <bucimaci> could someon help me with a wlan card and slow adsl internet in ubuntu 7.10?
[12:53] <scguy318> !ask | bucimaci
[12:53] <ubotu> bucimaci: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:53] <man2> nop! in windows everything is fine with the sound
[12:53] <bucimaci> okay:)
[12:54] <florian_> hi all. i got some big problems with madwifi since Kernel 2.6.22-14 :(
[12:54] <nucco> man2: check 'edit > preferences' make sure you have all the channels enabled, and volume slid up... I've never used a 5.1 card before :)
[12:54] <althetuxman> man2: have you gone in the preferences in the mixer an ticked all the checkboxes and then turned each volume up for each thing?
[12:54] <man2> well. i did that also... all volumns are high only
[12:55] <bucimaci> the problem is: I have a netgear wireless router and a ralink wireless network card
[12:55] <althetuxman> even wav?
[12:55] <man2> oops!!... i think some of them were low...:) thanx for the help
[12:55] <bucimaci> i have internet but it's very slow, about 80 kbps instead of 512
[12:55] <althetuxman> np
[12:55] <cool> when installing gutsy, i have noticed when my pc is connected to Internet is says scanning the repository or something similar and i see some activity in my network. whats that?
[12:55] <althetuxman> bucimaci: too much pron?
[12:56] <man2> thanx guys... my sounf issue seems to be solved now.. :) great going...
[12:56] <OIM> ı have install amorak then movie player cant run
[12:56] <boris_> this is terminal output when i start tremulous : http://pastebin.com/d386d75cf        but fglrx is installed
[12:56] <althetuxman> man2: good to hear
[12:56] <soundray> cool: probably update-notifier checking whether updates are available for any of your installed packages
[12:56] <boris_> just a second i gotta restart graphics
[12:57] <bucimaci> althetuxman what do you mean exactly?(my english is not the best:/)
[12:57] <cool> soundray, if they are then?, does is also installs them?
[12:57] <cool> bucimaci, XXX :p
[12:57] <bucimaci> lolz:D
[12:57] <boris_> so whats the problem ?
[12:57] <soundray> cool: no, it displays a orange icon with a white asterisk and possibly an info bubble saying that there are updates
[12:57] <bucimaci> any other ideas?:P
[12:58] <cool> soundray, are you sure it does not installed them automactically without the user being informed ?
[12:58] <bucimaci> oh and i forgot that everything works perfectly on 7.04
[12:58] <soundray> cool: clicking the panel icon then starts update-manager. You can configure fully automatic updates
[12:58] <scguy318> cool: unless you've set it that way I think not
[12:59] <blackfox_> how to add file exe at wine?
[12:59] <perpetual> soundray, I need to install a test system anyway, so I'm going to recreate the problem here at work. Understanding the boot process in ubuntu is essential when trying to do imaging
[12:59] <althetuxman> bucimaci: anyone using the network aprt from u?
[12:59] <althetuxman> ^apart
[12:59] <bucimaci> althetuxman no i don't think
[12:59] <soundray> perpetual: I do imaging, too...
[12:59] <cool> soundray, scguy318 it was a live cd :)
[12:59] <perpetual> soundray, with what tool?
[13:00] <soundray> perpetual: MRI scanners :)
[13:00] <althetuxman> bucimaci: what os you using atm?
[13:00] <perpetual> soundray, I see.
[13:00] <bucimaci> ubuntu 7.10
[13:00] <RicMar> hello! I have a problem, my system doesn't power off or reboot properlly. I had a way to solve it that is adding a line "acpi=force" on the menu.lst system file, but I don't like to force the computer doing something I don't know why, someone could help me?
[13:00] <perpetual> soundray, always curious, how heavy is that computationally?
[13:01] <soundray> RicMar: is that an older system?
[13:01] <RicMar> ubuntu 7.10 on a ACER Traelmate 291LMi
[13:01] <RicMar> the problem is that the 7.4 worked fine
[13:01] <RicMar> I never had problems with ubuntu since now
[13:02] <bucimaci> althetuxman any ideas?
[13:02] <althetuxman> bucimaci: any updates happening?
[13:02] <cool> Good! i forget password of my newly installed gutsy install, booting in recovery mode, but i exactly i have to do ?
[13:02] <soundray> perpetual: image analysis is very heavy. I run jobs on a cluster of 500 PCs, some taking 48 hours. But that's research. Join me in #ubuntu-offtopic if you need to know more
[13:02] <bucimaci> althetuxman no
[13:03] <boris_> http://pastebin.com/d386d75cf
[13:03] <man2> hi, could u guide me in setting up my TV tuner card working in ubuntu
[13:03] <perpetual> soundray, just curious, but joined anyway
[13:03] <soundray> RicMar: when you don't use the force option, does dmesg tell you what Linux thinks is wrong with your ACPI?
[13:03] <althetuxman> bucimaci: netstat -ta
[13:03] <boris_> this is what i get when i start tremulous
[13:03] <boris_> whats wrong and how can i fix it
[13:03] <blackfox_> how to install mu online game at ubuntu?
[13:03] <CyberMad> althetuxman i do rm -rf username
[13:04] <RicMar> soundray: I did not understand
[13:04] <CyberMad> althetuxman that's the problem
[13:04] <bucimaci> althetuxman http://pastebin.com/d40b01be5
[13:04] <CyberMad> i delete the email
[13:04] <cool> anyone? recovery of lost user password?
[13:04] <cool> i can't login
[13:05] <echosystm> guys, i am worried there is something wrong with my computer
[13:05] <soundray> RicMar: open a terminal and type dmesg. If you scroll to the top of the output, it'll tell you something about ACPI in your laptop and how Linux handles it.
[13:05] <echosystm> windows xp/2000 works fine
[13:05] <perpetual> cool, that was your admin-user? (the one with sudo rights?)
[13:05] <althetuxman> bucimaci: hmm reboot?
[13:05] <bucimaci> althetuxman already did some of them^^
[13:05] <CyberMad> althetuxman i do rm -rf username
[13:05] <cool> perpetual, yes
[13:05] <echosystm> no problems whatsoever, but all linux oses spew out acpi errors at me on bootup. also the dsl live cd wont even run.
[13:05] <echosystm> i dont know what to do
[13:05] <althetuxman> bucimaci: why you do rm -r username?
[13:05] <perpetual> cool, and you did not set a root password?
[13:06] <echosystm> if anyone has any advice, that would be good
[13:06] <bucimaci> althetuxman ?
[13:06] <echosystm> also, using ubuntu, my computer runs horribly
[13:06] <althetuxman> bucimaci: reboot router?
[13:06] <echosystm> far slower than windows xp
[13:06] <cool> perpetual, right now i have root powers in recovery mode, please guide what i have to do?
[13:06] <soundray> echosystm: is it a laptop?
[13:06] <RicMar> soundtray: which line do you need to understand the problem
[13:06] <echosystm> firefox can max out my cpu after a few tabs
[13:07] <bucimaci> althetuxman i've already tried it
[13:07] <althetuxman> bucimaci: re-install
[13:07] <MasterShrek> echosystm, boot with the noacpi kernel option?
[13:07] <alumno03> wsb nghkjnm
[13:07] <alumno03> kmogkrtg
[13:07] <echosystm> no, it is a desktop, 1.8ghz p4, 1gb ram, asus p4pe motherboad, asus geforce 4 ti4400
[13:07] <alumno03> nf
[13:07] <alumno03> jnfghkgb
[13:07] <alumno03> kghlghñbn
[13:07] <echosystm> it boots fine MasterShrek
[13:07] <perpetual> cool, make a dir somewhere
[13:07] <alumno03> fzgyn m, j
[13:07] <MasterShrek> alumno03, please dont spam the channel
[13:07] <echosystm> acpi works even lol
[13:07] <bucimaci> althetuxman i've already tried that too^^
[13:07] <alumno03> jilipollas
[13:07] <bucimaci> althetuxman and it also go wrong if i update feisty
[13:10] <echosystm> im just worried about these errors
[13:10] <alumno03> majkklr
[13:10] <alumno03> igh9g
[13:10] <echosystm> and if they can explain the hideous performance of linux in general
[13:10] <echosystm> or is that just how linux is? :/
[13:10] <althetuxman> bucimaci: shit well
[13:10] <alumno03> camnjfvm
[13:10] <cool> perpetual, for what?
[13:10] <cool> alumno03, its not the time to clean the keyboard :p
[13:10] <alumno03> capul lkgko
[13:10] <alumno03> çj
[13:10] <cool> !op | alumno03
[13:10] <alumno03> pppghpphbppbnpnnojjn
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <alumno03> k
[13:10] <alumno03> k
[13:10] <alumno03> ik
[13:10] <alumno03> kjh
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <alumno03> kj
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <althetuxman> bucimaci: thinking ... (world could stop spinning in any tick now)
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <alumno03> jkkjjkjkj
[13:10] <alumno03> ju
[13:10] <mwti> !ops | alumno03
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <cool> !ops | alumno03
[13:10] <alumno03> t
[13:10] <alumno03> t
[13:10] <alumno03> t
[13:10] <alumno03> k,
[13:10] <alumno03> mamjihh
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <alumno03> j
[13:10] <jrib> ubotu: test
[13:10] <echosystm> so...
[13:10] <echosystm> about my computer. any ideas?
[13:10] <brobostigon> !pastebin | alimno03
[13:10] <Regarok> hi
[13:10] <ubotu> alumno03: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[13:10] <cool> !ubotu
[13:10] <ubotu> Failed.
[13:10] <ubotu> alimno03: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:10] <Odd-rationale> Does anyone know of any online backup that has good support for linux OS? particularly  use with sbackup? Thanks!
[13:10] <cool> wow so much lag!
[13:10] <bucimaci> althetuxman okay:)
[13:11] <echosystm> in xubuntu/ubuntu/fluxbuntu, i can load up like 1-2 tabs of (dont laugh) myspace pages before things start to slow down hard. in windows 2000, i can have a million tabs open and its all ok.
[13:11] <brobostigon> lots of lag at the moment
[13:11] <echosystm> i just find the performance of linux in general to be very very poor
[13:11] <echosystm> im convinced something is wrong with my setup
[13:11] <althetuxman> bucimaci: something in gutsy doing weird shit with your pc
[13:11] <cool> brobostigon, there is another netsplit !!!!
[13:11] <scguy318> echosystm: might be the Flash
[13:11] <scguy318> echosystm: or w/e embedded stuff is in MySpace pages
[13:11] <echosystm> there is flash
[13:11] <brobostigon> whats netsplit??
[13:11] <cool> perpetual
[13:11] <echosystm> whoa nelly
[13:12] <echosystm> that was a netsplit and a half :/
[13:12] <althetuxman> here we go agin
[13:12] <bucimaci> althetuxman and not just me:D
[13:12] <cool> !netsplit | brobostigon
[13:12] <althetuxman> whoa enjoy the ride man.
[13:12] <echosystm> so is it possible these acpi errors are just indicators of some underlying problem?
[13:12] <clc> ff
[13:12] <clc> f
[13:12] <clc> f
[13:12] <clc> f
[13:12] <ubotu> brobostigon: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[13:13] <clc> ff
[13:13] <clc> f
[13:13] <clc> f
[13:13] <clc> f
[13:13] <ggg> hola
[13:13] <clc> ff
[13:13] <clc> feas
[13:13] <clc> guarrillas
[13:13] <ggg> jilipollas
[13:13] <cool> lol
[13:13] <clc> aaaaaaaaaaaa
[13:13] <ggg> guarra tu madre
[13:13] <ggg>  
[13:13] <ggg>   
[13:13] <ggg>  
[13:13] <dgjones> clc, please don't
[13:13] <bucimaci> althetuxman nobody could help at any ubuntu forums but the forums are full of theese kind of topics
[13:13] <jrib> !es | ggg
[13:13] <ubotu> ggg: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[13:13] <cool> jrib, some hard work for you today:p
[13:14] <jrib> !es > clc
[13:14] <echosystm> would you guys expect xubuntu or ubuntu to perform better than xp?
[13:14] <MasterShrek> yes
[13:14] <cool> echosystm, yes
[13:14] <MasterShrek> xubuntu more so that ubuntu
[13:14] <scguy318> ecosystm: yes
[13:14] <jrib> echosystm: xubuntu is lighter
[13:14] <soundray> RicMar: have you booted with or without the acpi=force option this time?
[13:14] <echosystm> i'm not seeing it :(
[13:14] <scguy318> ecosystm: how much mem do you have?
[13:14] <echosystm> 1gb
[13:14] <althetuxman> bucimaci: I am sorry mate, btu I think you will have to go back to fiesty for now. Stupid how it does it only in gutsy
[13:14] <cool> anyone can help with forgot passoword problem
[13:14] <althetuxman> ^but
[13:15] <MasterShrek> cool, not really, do yuo have root access?
[13:15] <bucimaci> althetuxman yeah i thought that this will happen:)
[13:15] <jrib> !password > cool (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:15] <soundray> echosystm: on a system with ACPI problems, it's unreasonable to expect anything
[13:15] <bucimaci> althetuxman thanks for your help
[13:15] <echosystm> should i try turning off pnp?
[13:15] <kerberosWrk> hello
[13:15] <althetuxman> bucimaci: np Thanks for listening. lol
[13:15] <bucimaci> :)
[13:15] <cool> MasterShrek, yes
[13:16] <bucimaci> byez
[13:16] <MasterShrek> cool, passwd <user>
[13:16] <echosystm> also, why is acpi not supported? this motherboard is reasonably old so it should be fine?
[13:16] <MasterShrek> replace <user> with your username
[13:16] <cool> jrib, it only says Boot into recovery mode nothing else :(
[13:16] <cool> what after that?
[13:16] <NineTeen67Comet> I know this prolly isn't Ubuntu's fault, but I've got about 5 boxes on my network running Ubuntu. Some web sites haven't been working .. places like Yahoo.com for the wife's e-mail and wordpress.org for me .. they just don't work .. Help?
[13:16] <scguy318> echosystm: your ACPI tables might be fubared, or your BIOS may have not-cool issues
[13:16] <Odd-rationale> Sorry, I got disconnected. did someone answer my question? Thanks!
[13:16] <MasterShrek> cool, then it will ask you for a password
[13:16] <MasterShrek> make a new password for the user
[13:16] <brobostigon> soory there, for some reason pidgin froze and i had to forcefully kill it, we were talking about netsplit?? what is it.
[13:16] <althetuxman> echosystm: manufacture not providing drivers or something like that
[13:16] <soundray> echosystm: ACPI is supported, but Linux has higher expectations than Windows regarding the consistency of the DSDT.
[13:17] <echosystm> ok
[13:17] <MasterShrek> !netsplit | brobostigon
[13:17] <ubotu> brobostigon: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[13:17] <echosystm> well, im running the latest bios
[13:17] <adrianS> hello, can ne1 tell me the package name, what provides mktemps on Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[13:17] <soundray> echosystm: you can try and fix the DSDT problems by recompiling, but it's involved.
[13:17] <brobostigon> ok, thanks
[13:17] <echosystm> so i guess this is as good as it gets lol
[13:17] <scguy318> echosystm: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems might be of interest
[13:17] <jrib> adrianS: packages.ubuntu.com or !apt-file can
[13:17] <scguy318> echosystm: yeah I know Gentoo but the information is also relevant to Ubuntu
[13:17] <echosystm> are there any wacky linux distros that might work better than ubuntu?
[13:18] <cool> MasterShrek, its says "passwd unknown user
[13:18] <echosystm> or are they all the same
[13:18] <scguy318> echosystm: if you're looking for serious lightness
[13:18] <echosystm> i mean i know the kernel is fundementally the same in all of them
[13:18] <scguy318> echosystm: DSL, Fluxbuntu, etc.
[13:18] <adrianS> jrib: that does not find it but other packages from 7.10 do need it during installation
[13:18] <echosystm> dsl wont boot for me scguy318
[13:18] <MasterShrek> cool, then the user doesnt exist, you arent putting the <>'s in there are you?
[13:18] <echosystm> fluxbuntu has the same acpi errors as ubuntu/xubuntu
[13:18] <MasterShrek> cuz u shouldnt
[13:19] <jrib> adrianS: pastebin the command and error
[13:19] <perpetual> cool, mount your root filesystem under that dir.
[13:19] <perpetual> chroot into that dir, and do passwd <username>
[13:19] <perpetual> cool, understand?
[13:19] <MasterShrek> echosystm, fluxbuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc all have the same kernel afaik, the hardware shold be supported the same, no matter what desktop environment you are using
[13:19] <cool> MasterShrek, nopes any ways i added a new user, now how to give him root powers?
[13:19] <MasterShrek> !sudo
[13:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[13:20] <echosystm> ok, MasterShrek, is there any chance say... mandriva would not have this acpi problem?
[13:20] <bungle37> hi all
[13:20] <Andycasss> Does anyone know how to enable virtual users automatically on pure ftpd?
[13:20] <Smaran> Hey. WPA isn't working for me in 7.10. I can't connect to my WPA network.
[13:20] <Smaran> I can see it, but I cannot connect to it.
[13:20] <soundray> cool: 'sudo adduser newuser admin' will enable sudo for a user named newuser
[13:20] <adrianS> jrib: thanks, a second ....
[13:20] <echosystm> or will all current linux distros be effectively the same?
[13:20] <bungle37> does anybody know how  I can get beryl
[13:20] <scguy318> echosystm: possibly, depends on what ACPI patches or static tables they have
[13:20] <MasterShrek> echosystm, it depends, but i would just disable acpi
[13:20] <jrib> !beryl | bungle37
[13:20] <ubotu> bungle37: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:20] <althetuxman> Andycasss: let me see if I can remember
[13:20] <echosystm> ok
[13:20] <scguy318> echosystm: your syslog is helpful in determining the ACPI situation
[13:20] <bungle37> !compiz
[13:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[13:21] <cool> soundray, i added a new user my adduser newuser, now can i give him root powers?
[13:21] <echosystm> i tried disabling acpi, but it wont go back to apm
[13:21] <Smaran> !wpa
[13:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:21] <echosystm> so im left without any power management at all
[13:21] <Andycasss> althetuxman: I would appriciate your help very much
[13:21] <soundray> echosystm: I guess all Debian-based systems will be the same. Try fedora or Suse
[13:21] <MasterShrek> cool, edit /etc/sudoers, and copy the entry for root, except put your username in there
[13:21] <echosystm> i cant help but feel like these are all symptoms of some underlying problem
[13:21] <echosystm> is it stupid to be thinking like this?
[13:21] <cool> MasterShrek, cool
[13:21] <soundray> cool: 'sudo adduser newuser admin' will enable sudo for a user named newuser
[13:21] <scguy318> echosystm: what does your syslog say about ACPI?
[13:22] <soundray> MasterShrek: that won't work (cool)
[13:22] <echosystm> i dont even know what "my syslog" is
[13:22] <echosystm> lol
[13:22] <scguy318> echosystm: /var/log/syslog
[13:22] <MasterShrek> soundray, thats how ive always done it and it works fine
[13:22] <echosystm> i'll have to look into it tomorrow, im not at home atm
[13:22] <scguy318> echosystm: or the kernel ring buffer from dmesg
[13:22] <scguy318> echosystm: ok
[13:22] <MasterShrek> echosystm, /var/log/syslog
[13:22] <echosystm> let me write that down
[13:23] <cool> soundray, ok done you method now, rebooting
[13:23] <MasterShrek> cool, shouldnt require a reboot
[13:23] <echosystm> then i guess the other thing is...
[13:23] <cool> MasterShrek, why so?
[13:23] <echosystm> maybe windows DOES give me acpi errors
[13:23] <soundray> MasterShrek: please don't recommend editing /etc/sudoers without further explanation
[13:23] <MasterShrek> why would it?
[13:23] <echosystm> but you know... being windows, it doesnt show them
[13:23] <soundray> cool: logging out and in again will be enough
[13:23] <scguy318> echosystm: Windows tends to hide ACPI issues, more "tolerant"
[13:23] <MasterShrek> soundray, i told him to copy the entry for root, what more explanation woudl you suggest/
[13:24] <cool> soundray, no X so i rebooted :)
[13:24] <echosystm> like i said before, acpi seems to work fine in windows and ubuntu
[13:24] <echosystm> suspend, shutdown, restart etc. all work
[13:24] <soundray> MasterShrek: mentioning visudo, for example?
[13:24] <echosystm> these errors are just worrying me
[13:24] <scguy318> echosystm: you'll probably want to do something liek cat /var/log/syslog | grep -i acpi
[13:24] <scguy318> echosystm: or dmesg | grep -i acpi
[13:24] <MasterShrek> soundray, but i dont like to tell newer users to use vi
[13:25] <scguy318> echosystm: really just the latter honestly, the ACPI relevant stuff is in the kernel messages
[13:25] <MasterShrek> they tend to get angry at vi =P
[13:25] <soundray> MasterShrek: you have no idea what I'm talking about. Please familiarize yourself with the way Ubuntu uses and configures sudo, before you dish out advice.
[13:25] <echosystm> thanks heaps guys
[13:25] <althetuxman> Andycass: vi /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous
[13:25] <echosystm> i really appreciate it
[13:25] <soundray> MasterShrek: mucking about with /etc/sudoers can leave people badly stranded.
[13:25] <althetuxman> change to no
[13:25] <echosystm> i'll have a look into this stuff tomorrow and come back :)
[13:26] <echosystm> cya
[13:26] <cool> soundray, MasterShrek perpetual & all others thanks for your kind help! really appreciated :-)
[13:26] <MasterShrek> soundray, ok, just going by what ive always done, i guess it prolly wasnt the smartest advice to give
[13:26] <MasterShrek> ubuntu is too automated... =P
[13:26] <althetuxman> opps that should: sudo be vi /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous
[13:26] <Andycasss> althetuxman: So, any idea how to autostart pureftpd with virtual users enabled?
[13:26] <althetuxman> ^sudo vi /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/NoAnonymous
[13:27] <Andycasss> althetuxman: oh
[13:27] <althetuxman> Andycasss: sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd restart
[13:28] <althetuxman> users will have to log back in.
[13:28] <bungle37> !looking glass
[13:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about looking glass - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:28] <Andycasss> althetuxman: Hmm, i had that on no already :(
[13:28] <bungle37> how can i improve my fussy fonts?
[13:29] <althetuxman> Andycasss: did you restart?
[13:29] <Andycasss> althetuxman: currently, i have to do this command after ive killed the pureftpd process manually: "usr/local/sbin/pure-ftpd-mysql -j -lpuredb:/etc/pureftpd.pdb &"
[13:29] <soundray> MasterShrek: 'sudo visudo' is the way to open sudoers in the default editor (nano by default). Only changes made in this way are accepted. If you have experienced something different, you must have disabled some of the security measures.
[13:29] <Andycasss> althetuxman: yes, ive restarted it
[13:29] <erratic> ./whois me
[13:29] <althetuxman> Andycasss: that should work
[13:29] <Andycasss> althetuxman: and ive checked, i cant access the server with anon
[13:30] <madrazr> hiii alll
[13:30] <MasterShrek> soundray, interesting, i was not aware that visudo opened in nano, its always used vi for me, but i dont think ive ever disabled any other security measures, but ive obvoiusly used root or sudo to edit the file. would those security measures pertain only to ubuntu? i do use slackware so that could by why it works for me... :)
[13:31] <Andycasss> althetuxman: It says "530 Sorry, but I can't trust you" when i try logging in with my virtual user
[13:31] <Andycasss> When i enter the "usr/local/sbin/pure-ftpd-mysql -j -lpuredb:/etc/pureftpd.pdb &" command manually, it works
[13:31] <soundray> MasterShrek: yes, I think this is Ubuntu-specific, or it might be inherited from Debian, not sure.
[13:31] <MasterShrek> ic
[13:32] <Andycasss> Thing is, i want this to be an automatic procedure...
[13:32] <madrazr> how to download a package and all its Dependencies so that I can install that package on a different machine not connected to Net???
[13:32] <madrazr> Plz Help this is urgently needed
[13:32] <soundray> madrazr: you need the howto on using apt offline. Hold on, I'll look it up...
[13:32] <ikonia> madrazr: you can download them direct from the repo.
[13:33] <scguy318> !aptoncd
[13:33] <RCOMALTA> Hello i am ferst time user ubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> e
[13:33] <dgjones> madrazr, do a search on http://packages.ubuntu.com/, you sould be able to save the package and install from that
[13:33] <RCOMALTA> the server ver is GUI ?
[13:33] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: please ask your question
[13:33] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[13:33] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: no
[13:33] <mike32> hello
[13:33] <scguy318> RCOMALTA: no, unless you install the packages for a GUI
[13:33] <ikonia> hello
[13:33] <RCOMALTA> can i do the packages
[13:33] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: yes
[13:33] <RCOMALTA> ok thanks
[13:33] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: but that defaults the object
[13:34] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: just use the desktop version
[13:34] <RCOMALTA> but i need for server
[13:34] <soundray> madrazr: http://batmat.net/apt-offline/
[13:34] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: the desktop version is fine for a server
[13:34] <RCOMALTA> a rely
[13:34] <mike32> i have ubuntu 7.04 and i have downloaded all the updates notification in the taskbar...can i roll off it back to the default?
[13:34] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: the fact that you think you need the server version suggests you should use the desktop
[13:34] <ikonia> mike32: to a clean ubuntu install ?
[13:34] <madrazr> ikonia: dgjones: Do you mean I have to search for each dependencies and download??
[13:34] <RCOMALTA> ok
[13:35] <madrazr> Don't you think its foolish to do so?
[13:35] <ikonia> madrazr: that is one option, but soundray is looking for the proper technique
[13:35] <ikonia> madrazr: not really no
[13:35] <RCOMALTA> is complicated to make server ver with GUI
[13:35] <ikonia> madrazr: I think thats resonable
[13:35] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: use the destkop version
[13:35] <althetuxman> Andycasss: what ftp proram you using?
[13:35] <RCOMALTA> ok
[13:35] <dgjones> madrazr, there's normally a complete package shown at the bottom of the search page
[13:35] <erratic> I hate linux
[13:35] <kondrix> did anyone manage to use Inkscape to make a .svg image and use it as an application icon?
[13:35] <kelsin> RCOMALTA: more complicated then installing whatever softaware you need on the desktop version
[13:35] <madrazr> ikonia: How??
[13:35] <ikonia> erratic: ok, thanks.
[13:35] <ikonia> madrazr: how what ?
[13:35] <kelsin> erratic: then you choose your channel in an odd fashion
[13:35] <soundray> madrazr: scguy318's suggestion might work, too, but you'd have to do the installation on a connected machine first.
[13:35] <madrazr> dgjones: those packages again have dependencies
[13:35] <RCOMALTA> any one know where can i dawnload ubuut desck top ver fast
[13:36] <madrazr> soundray: I did that
[13:36] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: http://www.ubuntu.com - select a mirror close to you
[13:36] <soundray> erratic: oh, no! What happened?
[13:36] <dgjones> madrazr, which package are you looking for, give an example, normally it includes the dependancie
[13:36] <mike32> ikonia-well i wish i could get back to the 2.6.20-15 kernel
[13:36] <madrazr> soundray: I was bugged out today
[13:36] <madrazr> dgjones: I wanted graphviz
[13:36] <soundray> !aptoncd | madrazr
[13:36] <ubotu> madrazr: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[13:36] <ikonia> mike32: you can potentially, but it will be a reasonable ammount of effort
[13:36] <madrazr> soundray: I tried that
[13:36] <madrazr> soundray: I was totally disappointed today with aptoncd
[13:37] <soundray> madrazr: did you get the batmat link?
[13:37] <madrazr> soundray: there is no doubt that its one the most beautiful tool that Ubuntu has still
[13:37] <mike32> ikonia - i noticed that mozilla had change in a way that other flash windows cannot be displayed correctly
[13:37] <madrazr> soundray: Yeah I got the link
[13:37] <dgjones> madrazr, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/graphviz at the bottom of the page is a downloadable file which should have all the required dependencies
[13:37] <ikonia> mike32: thats nothing to do with the kernel
[13:37] <mike32> ikonia-specially related with java
[13:37] <soundray> madrazr: that's the "proper" way
[13:38] <mike32> ah ok
[13:38] <ikonia> mike32: again, thats a java/mozilla issue, rather than anything to do with the kernel
[13:38] <fhv> hello
[13:38] <mike32> ikonia -is it ok to unistall mozilla
[13:38] <mike32> and reinstall
[13:38] <ikonia> mike32: uninstall it ? not the best move
[13:38] <ikonia> mike32: why do you want to re-install it ? that won't fix a problem
[13:38] <Andycasss> althetuxman: smartftpd, and fireftp
[13:38] <mike32> ikonia- yep i learned that it is linked to many programs though
[13:38] <Andycasss> althetuxman: both have same problem
[13:39] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, for a server? i always used proftpd
[13:39] <madrazr> soundray: ok thanks will try
[13:39] <ikonia> mike32 yes, thats true, so why would uninstalling and re-install it change anything ?
[13:39] <RCOMALTA> Any one here have mail server on ubututu
[13:39] <Andycasss> althetuxman: if i launch that command in terminal it works for both
[13:39] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: yes
[13:39] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: many
[13:39] <Andycasss> no, as a client
[13:39] <althetuxman> Andycasss: yet it works fine on the server
[13:39] <mike32> ikonia -mozilla wont display the java link window in the page i often visit
[13:39] <x_zeuss> another question: how can i make gnome act faster, i mean when clicking buttons, opening menus, i noticed that in kde it responds faster to this commands but in gnome is slower, anyway do improve speed?
[13:39] <RCOMALTA> thanks
[13:39] <ikonia> mike32: again, thats going to be a java issue, not mozzilla most probably
[13:39] <scguy318> x_zeuss: if desktop effects are enabled turn it off
[13:39] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, gftp?
[13:39] <mike32> ikonia-after updating mozilla thru the updates notificatioin
[13:40] <x_zeuss> scguy318: no, no desktop effects
[13:40] <ikonia> mike32: ......java updates too
[13:40] <x_zeuss> scguy318: i evend disabled reduced_resources
[13:40] <mike32> ikonia- yeah it happend so that i reinstalled java again...
[13:40] <Andycasss> MasterShrek: no, i wanna use pureftpd
[13:40] <ikonia> mike32: why would you re-install ?
[13:40] <ikonia> mike32: what do you expect a re-install to do ? its the same package
[13:40] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, gftp as a client
[13:40] <mike32> but still mozilla wont open it so i used opera web browser instead
[13:40] <ikonia> mike32: use opera then
[13:41] <ikonia> mike32: your attempts to debug and fix are random. Use opera
[13:41] <soundray> ikonia: it's the magic wand waving of the 21st century
[13:41] <Andycasss> MasterShrek: Well, it doesnt quite matter which client im using, as im planning to give access to other users and they might use smartftp
[13:41] <Andycasss> or any other ftp client...
[13:41] <x_zeuss> any ideea?
[13:41] <RCOMALTA> what is this
[13:41] <RCOMALTA>  you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer.
[13:41] <mike32> then again it only shows the java window with a broken image though
[13:41] <scguy318> RCOMALTA: its asking if you want the alternate CD or not
[13:41] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: thats the alternative CD - you want the desktop CD
[13:41] <Andycasss> I just need to find out where does the pureftpd get the startup arguments
[13:41] <Agent_bob> anybody know how to mark a file system as clean ?
[13:41] <ikonia> mike32: because you have a JAVA issue !
[13:42] <reel> Hi,  I have a sony camera that I wish to automount in PTP mode (assume no other mode available). Right now I can do that by hand  "gphotofs /mnt/camera". Is there a udev rule to automount in PTP mode already ? Or any other way to auto mount ?
[13:42] <mike32> ikonia- hey stop ! ok
[13:42] <mike32> just asking here
[13:42] <ikonia> reel: udev doesn't mount, hal does
[13:42] <mike32> you are so rude-ikonia
[13:42] <ikonia> mike32: your not asking, your not listening and just keep repeating the same thing
[13:42] <x_zeuss> how can i make gnome act faster, i mean when clicking buttons, opening menus, i noticed that in kde it responds faster to this commands but in gnome is slower, anyway do improve speed? no desktop effects enabled
[13:42] <ikonia> mike32: no, you don't listen
[13:42] <ikonia> reel: actually hal informs gnome to mount to be more exact
[13:43] <reel> ikonia, okay. I see... so, is there a way to ask hal to automount ?
[13:43] <MasterShrek> x_zeuss, do the problems persist with a new user? create one and try :)
[13:43] <mike32> ikonia-maybe you should be the one who shoud be listening in the 1st place , its your fukin job
[13:43] <Pici> !attitude | mike32
[13:43] <reel> ikonia, oh okay
[13:43] <ubotu> mike32: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:43] <IdleOne> mike32: relax and no it is not his job
[13:43] <ikonia> mike32: 1.) no need for bad language 2.) its not my job 3.) I listened and told you the problem 3 times
[13:43] <IdleOne> we are not paid for this
[13:43] <mike32> ikonia-well just quit the fukin job ok
[13:43] <Agent_bob> mike32 who's job to listen/help/serve you ?
[13:43] <ikonia> mike32: bye
[13:43] <MenZa> !ops | mike__
[13:43] <ubotu> mike__: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[13:43]  * MasterShrek gets a fat paycheck every week from #ubuntu =P
[13:43] <MenZa> MasterShrek, if only...
[13:44] <MasterShrek> heh
[13:44] <MenZa> hmm
[13:44] <IdleOne> shame
[13:44] <MenZa> Mez: wrong person, actually
[13:44] <MenZa> ._.
[13:44] <MasterShrek> =P
[13:44] <MenZa> Mez, xchat's highlight is an evil, evil thing. :(
[13:44] <x_zeuss> it's not a user problem, i tried with other users created, it's the way gnome in general acts, it opens drop down menus slow, they lag, in kde it acts like in windows, click-and-go :), i want that for gnome too
[13:44] <reel> ikonia, but I could use the RUN to do the mounting can't I ?
[13:44] <althetuxman> Andycasss: can you pastebin some of the log files from /var/log/pure-ftp
[13:44] <IdleOne> Mez: Mike__ did not do anything
[13:44] <ikonia> reel: run ? sorry, I don't follow. I'm just checking ou the hal interaction process now
[13:45] <Mez> IdleOne, I know, made the same mistake as MenZa
[13:45] <Andycasss> althetuxman: okay, ill examine them myself quickly and then post them up on my server
[13:45] <IdleOne> hehe
[13:45] <Pici> Mez: I sent an invite, dunno if he'll come back /me shrugs
[13:45] <reel> ikonia, I could say KERNEL="usb" RUN+="mount script"
[13:45] <reel> ikonia, right?
[13:45] <ikonia> reel: from within hal ?
[13:45] <scguy318> Pici: might be afk
[13:45]  * Mez sent him an apology too
[13:46] <Andycasss> althetuxman: I have just transfer.log in there...
[13:46] <reel> ikonia, no, in a udev rules file
[13:46] <Agent_bob> so anybody know how to mark a file system as clean ?
[13:46] <scguy318> Agent_bob: is this related to NTFS-3G?
[13:46] <MasterShrek> e2fsck possibly?
[13:46] <ikonia> reel: I've never used "run" before in udev so wouldn't like to guess, but thats not really udev's job. Try it though if you like
[13:46] <MasterShrek> oh yea, i spose its prolly ntfs...
[13:46] <Agent_bob> scguy318 nope   ext2
[13:46] <MasterShrek> Agent_bob, e2fsck
[13:46] <scguy318> Agent_bob: you probably should fsck it I guess?
[13:47] <reel> ikonia, okay.
[13:47] <althetuxman> Andycasss: link?
[13:47] <Agent_bob> MasterShrek is that the only way    cause i dont want to start that and go on vacation...
[13:47] <dab> ciao
[13:47] <MasterShrek> Agent_bob, i dunno, but its prolly the best way...vacation?
[13:47] <dab> hello
[13:47] <scguy318> Agent_bob: yeah, if your file system isn't clean, it's not exactly consistant
[13:47] <reel> ikonia, What will be the proper way then ?
[13:47] <Agent_bob> scguy318 there is nothing wrong with it,  but it's marked unclean.   i just want to mark it clean.
[13:47] <MasterShrek> hello dab
[13:48] <ikonia> reel: to set a hal trigger on a udev event
[13:48] <dab> !list
[13:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:48] <Andycasss> althetuxman: Im sorry, but this is the only line in my transfer.log - "xxx.xxx.xx.xx dsl.est.estpak.ee - ftp [28/Nov/2007:10:22:53 -0000] "GET /home/ftp/welcome.msg" 200 166"
[13:48] <Agent_bob> MasterShrek yean it will take for ever to check
[13:48] <MasterShrek> dab, this isnt a file serving channel
[13:48] <reel> ikonia, okay... how do I do that?
[13:48] <dab> ok
[13:48] <MasterShrek> Agent_bob, i dont think it takes THAT long
[13:48] <ikonia> Agent_bob: fsck -y $disk_device
[13:48] <dab> bye
[13:48] <ikonia> reel: I'm just reading up now. Feel free to read up on hal and beat me to it
[13:48] <reel> ikonia, :) sure
[13:49] <Agent_bob> MasterShrek 200g ext2  it takes LONG!
[13:49] <ikonia> Agent_bob: should take 10 minutes
[13:49] <ikonia> 200g is nothing
[13:49] <slimg00dy> Yo, is anyone there?
[13:49] <ikonia> slimg00dy: over a 1000 people
[13:49] <MasterShrek> slimg00dy, theres lots of people here
[13:49] <aro> 1177 people are here
[13:49] <MasterShrek> 1176*
[13:49] <Agent_bob> ikonia no not ext3   ext2   think about it.
[13:49] <MasterShrek> =P
[13:49] <man1> hello. thanx in advance..:)
[13:49] <man1> plz advice me how to setup a PVR in ubuntu... i have a working TV tuner card and i enjoy god TV viewing in windows... now that i no more want to go back to windows, i want to setup PVR in ubuntu....
[13:49] <man1> PLz help... :)
[13:49] <ikonia> Agent_bob: think about what ?
[13:49] <slimg00dy> Hehe, um........... I have a suggestion or maybe it's a fix (new to linux)
[13:50] <cool> whats wrong :http://pastebin.com/m6b5ced92???
[13:50] <cool> adding a new shared folder
[13:50] <cool> os = gutsy
[13:50] <slimg00dy> Yes 7.10 Gutsy.
[13:50] <MasterShrek> os = linux actually, distro = ubuntu, version = gutsy
[13:50] <MasterShrek> =P
[13:50] <ikonia> MasterShrek: don't feed them
[13:50] <Agent_bob> never mind.     well if no one knows a way to just "mark a filesyste as clean"  i'll disapear into the real world now.
[13:51] <slimg00dy> There's the calendar program that comes with Ubuntu, which has an alarm function, I tried setting the alarm to play a certain song and it didn't work.
[13:51] <ikonia> Agent_bob: you can touch a specific file in the root of the file system
[13:51] <cool> MasterShrek, yes it has to be but i am in #ubuntu so its gotta be ubuntu only
[13:51] <cool> so os - gutsy:p
[13:51] <cool> common sense !
[13:51] <Agent_bob> ikonia ?
[13:51] <MasterShrek> slimg00dy, what command are you using to play the song?
[13:52] <linuxmonger> Actually, os = gnu, kernel = linux, distro = ubuntu, version = gutsy
[13:52] <slimg00dy> Well it's not a command, it's in the GUI to locate that file.
[13:52] <linuxmonger> Sorry, I had to.
[13:52] <soundray> Agent_bob: just mounting and unmounting it should mark it as clean
[13:52] <slimg00dy> But when the alarm is suppose to go off, it doesn't play.
[13:52] <man1> hello!! plz help this poor TV viewer!!
[13:52] <MasterShrek> slimg00dy, have the alarm run the command: mpg123 file.mp3  (also check to make sure you have the program mpg123)
[13:52] <slimg00dy> However it does give me a message, which I also set it to.
[13:52] <Agent_bob> linuxmonger doesn't seem to    i tried that already.  can test again i guess.
[13:53]  * MenZa pokes linuxmonger's eyes out.
[13:53] <MenZa> Pedant :P
[13:53] <x_zeuss> anyone?
[13:53] <slimg00dy> Okay, I have rythmbox, I didn't set that to activate the program, how do I do that?
[13:53] <Agent_bob> linuxmonger doesn't work.
[13:53] <MasterShrek> x_zeuss, why not just use kde?
[13:53] <MenZa> linuxmonger works just fine. :(
[13:54] <x_zeuss> MasterShrek:  gnome is more stable
[13:54] <kelsin> Agent_bob: what is telling you that the filesystem is not clean? fsck won't do anything if the filesystem is clean and check it otherwise
[13:54] <slimg00dy> I'm on Gnome.
[13:54] <MasterShrek> x_zeuss, how so?
[13:54] <MasterShrek> ive had less problems in kde than in gnome
[13:54] <Agent_bob> kelsin yeap
[13:54] <slimg00dy> How do I set the calendar to run a certain program?
[13:55] <soundray> MasterShrek: fewer
[13:55] <soundray> MasterShrek: scnr :)
[13:55] <MasterShrek> =P
[13:55] <kelsin> Agent_bob: if you just ran fsk in the first place, it would probably be done checking by now
[13:55]  * MasterShrek takes elementary school english again
[13:55] <x_zeuss> MasterShrek: i have tried kde too, sometimes it just freezes, programs crash for no reason
[13:56] <Agent_bob> kelsin tune2fs -l <device> | grep "Filesystem state"
[13:56] <slimg00dy> How do I set the calendar to run a certain program?
[13:56] <rohan> i've connected an external CRT to my laptop - i am able to get display on it using xrandr --output VGA --auto, but because resolution is not same for monitor, it looks like crap.. how do i work around that ?
[13:57] <MasterShrek> rohan, -s
[13:57] <kelsin> Agent_bob: so if it's telling you it's dirty, why do you believe that it's clean?
[13:57] <rohan> MasterShrek: err what ?
[13:57] <MasterShrek> rohan, xrandr --help to see how to use -s
[13:57] <rohan> MasterShrek: aha, thanks
[13:57] <ikonia> Agent_bob: fsck -y (or -a) /dev/$device
[13:57] <ikonia> Agent_bob: just get it done
[13:58]  * MasterShrek hands Agent_bob a scrubber and a bucket of soapy water
[13:58] <MasterShrek> =P
[13:58] <Agent_bob> kelsin cause e2fsck set the dirty flag on it because there was no /lost+found
[13:58] <ikonia> Agent_bob: that doesn't make it set dirty
[13:58] <AATW> Can someone please help me. I can't get WPA working in Ubuntu 7.10.
[13:58] <man1> k. can someone plz advice me where to get help to setup by PVR
[13:58] <x_zeuss> MasterShrek: and kubuntu i hear is very buggy
[13:58] <MasterShrek> !wpa | AATW
[13:58] <ubotu> AATW: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: e2fsck is just fsck, so fsck must be run to makr it as clean
[13:59] <Agent_bob> ikonia yes it does    it either creates the dir or sets teh unclean flag
[13:59] <MasterShrek> x_zeuss, i dunno about that
[13:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: not nessasarrly
[13:59] <AATW> MasterShrek: I've already been there. I've followed the procedure for WPA, but it just won't connect to my WPA network. It sees it, but won't join!
[13:59] <althetuxman> Andycass: u here still?
[13:59] <Agent_bob> ikonia no   you are backwards   fsck is just a script that calls e2fsck
[13:59] <rohan> MasterShrek: rohan@ubuntu:~$ xrandr --output VGA -s 800x600 --auto didn't work
[13:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob exactly
[13:59] <turbocueca> Is there any bot here?
[13:59] <althetuxman> Andycass: I found the solution
[13:59] <ikonia> Agent_bob: so fsck must be run to clean it
[14:00] <ikonia> turbocueca: yes ubotu
[14:00] <MasterShrek> hmm, sorry rohan, ive never used xrandr before, figured that was worth a shot...
[14:00] <richo> is it wise to open virustool like this: sudo avscan its an graphical one. I wanna scan all discs so open it like sudo makes it alot easier instead of just going into sudo for certain folders.
[14:00] <MasterShrek> rohan, there should be a flag or something to fix whatever is wrong with it
[14:00] <ikonia> rohan: to get a dual head, you'll need to use xinerma I think
[14:00] <MasterShrek> richo, what do u need to scan for virii for?
[14:00] <ikonia> rohan: not sure if xrandr is capable
[14:00] <scguy318> MasterShrek: viruses :P
[14:00] <MasterShrek> =P
[14:00] <Agent_bob> ikonia e2fsck will either creates the lost+found dir or sets the unclean flag,  if the dir is not there.  and that's how it was marked unclean
[14:00] <rohan> ikonia: ah yes, i had heard something like that
[14:00] <AATW> MasterShrek: I've already been there. I've followed the procedure for WPA, but it just won't connect to my WPA network. It sees it, but won't join!
[14:01]  * MasterShrek fails elementary english, and retakes it
[14:01] <richo> MasterShrek: as scguy318 said. viruses :D
[14:01] <rohan> MasterShrek: err.. wrong is that the monitor doesn't support 1280x800 that laptop is using :)
[14:01] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I have 3 mounted file systems with no lost+found and they have just pased fsck
[14:01]  * N3bunel saluta
[14:01] <MasterShrek> AATW, did you manually edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?
[14:01] <Agent_bob> and i'm not wasting the hours waiting on fsck to make dirs that i'm only going to rm anyway.
[14:01] <AATW> MasterShrek: Nope.
[14:01] <ikonia> Agent_bob: then don't do it, and stop complaining
[14:01] <ikonia> Agent_bob: it shouldn't take hours
[14:02] <turbocueca> !slackware
[14:02] <Agent_bob> ikonia heh yeah right   like you ran fsck on mounted file systems.      please stop helping me.
[14:02] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[14:02] <ikonia> Agent_bob: it should take less time if its "clean" as you say
[14:02] <MasterShrek> rohan, well if the monitor is not widescreen then you are probably going to have errors no matter what way you do it, btw what kinda gfx card do u have?
[14:02] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I didn't run fsck on a mounted file system
[14:02] <MasterShrek> turbocueca, #slackware
[14:02] <AATW> MasterShrek: I've got a fresh install of Ubuntu 7.10, just completed. The only thing I'm going to edit is /boot/grub/menu.lst, and I haven't yet.
[14:02] <turbocueca> yeah, but I was testing..
[14:02] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I said I have 3 mounted file systems that passed fsck with no lost+found
[14:02] <larsemil> is Open office novell edition available for ubuntu somewhere?
[14:02] <MasterShrek> AATW, i always add my wpa rules in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:02] <turbocueca> !openoffice
[14:02] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[14:02] <soundray> turbocueca: don't fish with the bot please
[14:02] <MasterShrek> turbocueca, test ubotu in a pm
[14:02] <AATW> MasterShrek: How would I go about doing that?
[14:03] <rohan> MasterShrek: intel 945
[14:03] <Agent_bob> ikonia they werent checked.
[14:03] <soundray> !msgthebot > turbocueca
[14:03] <turbocueca> okay
[14:03] <MasterShrek> AATW, gksu gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:03] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I ran them while we where chatting
[14:03] <AATW> Thanks, MasterShrek, I'll give it a shot.
[14:03] <turbocueca> hey
[14:03] <Agent_bob> ikonia if they had of been you would either have the same situation i have or e2fsck would have made the dirs.
[14:03] <turbocueca> what's your problem?
[14:03] <adac2> is there a tool that checks my pc components against problems?
[14:03] <Agent_bob> ikonia they werent checked.
[14:03] <kelsin> Agent_bob: e2 doesn't make the dir if there are no lost inodes
[14:04] <ikonia> kelsin thank you
[14:04] <Agent_bob> kelsin yes it does.
[14:04] <AATW> I'm getting a blank file here, MasterShrek. How exactly would I enter my WPA details?
[14:04] <MasterShrek> AATW, hang on ill get you a link
[14:04] <AATW> Thanks.
[14:04] <richo> So is it quite safe runni'n virustool with sudo? and also since it's an graphical one is it correct to: "sudo avscan"    Believe in an older ubuntu you should run something lite  gtksudo or so?!  runni'n 7,1 now
[14:05] <Agent_bob> kelsin dd if=/dev/zero of=testfilesystem.img  count=2000000 ;mke2fs testfilesystem.img ;e2fsck -f testfilesystem.img   and see what it does.
[14:06] <MasterShrek> AATW, http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[14:06] <graelin> quick question. How would I get xmodmap to execute on login?
[14:06] <ikonia> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46331/
[14:06] <ikonia> kelsin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46331/ you are correct
[14:06] <MasterShrek> graelin, system > preferences > session
[14:06] <ikonia> kelsin: as I've told Agent_bob
[14:06] <ikonia> kelsin: I hate that people have to go to this level to prove to people
[14:06] <AATW> Thanks, MasterShrek.
[14:07] <jrib> graelin: gnome should automatically find and ask you about ~/.Xmodmap.  Just drop your commands there
[14:07] <ikonia> Agent_bob: and to prove it didn't re-create it
[14:07] <ikonia> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46332/#
[14:07] <ikonia> Agent_bob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46332/
[14:07] <ikonia> kelsin: fyi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46332/
[14:08] <Agent_bob> ikonia like i told you it wasn't checked.   all it did was looked at the clean bit and said OK it's good.   if you force a check on it you might learn something you dumb jackass
[14:08] <Crosswing> Hello
[14:08] <Gin> hi
[14:08] <shan> rar p[password] test.rar    error , why  ?
[14:08] <AATW> MasterShrek, the example file is huuuge. What part of it do I look at and remodel? http://hostap.epitest.fi/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=hostap.git;a=blob_plain;f=wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:08] <kerberosWrk> a mne dysky pryslaly )))
[14:08] <ikonia> Agent_bob: thats what I'm telling you to do - run a check on it it will set the clean bit !
[14:08] <Gin> how do I know if Ihave USB 1.0 or 2.0 on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <ikonia> Agent_bob: and if you call me names again, I'll request you lave
[14:08] <ikonia> leave
[14:08] <Crosswing> I've got a HP LaserJet printer and it prints raw data... how would I change its personality? I don't seem to find that setting.
[14:09] <Agent_bob> ikonia only mentioned what you are acting like.
[14:09] <Agent_bob> a dumb jackass
[14:09] <ikonia> Agent_bob: I'm not, I'm giving you the answer
[14:09] <kelsin> Agent_bob: if you honestly refuse to run the program that's made to clean a ext2 filesystem then you're only other option is to learn how tune2fs checks for the clean bit and set it yourself
[14:10] <ikonia> kelsin: I really don't get it, I've just removes lost+found, ran a check and it passed, no dirty bit
[14:10] <ikonia> kelsin: which is exactly what he wanted
[14:10] <althetuxman> Andycasss: hope i helped.
[14:10] <kelsin> ikonia: whether it does ot not, really doesn't matter in the long run, I've run fsck on some pretty huge filesystems recently and it does finish in like 5-10 minutes, esp on "clean" ones :)
[14:10] <MasterShrek> AATW, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=130227p=423584  scroll down a bit
[14:10] <kelsin> ikonia: anyway off to work :)
[14:10] <ikonia> kelsin totally agree 200gb was nothing
[14:11] <Gin> how do I know if Ihave USB 1.0 or 2.0 on Ubuntu?
[14:11] <MasterShrek> AATW, about half way or so, youll see the:  network {    line
[14:11] <martint> Hi , My MySQL admin user seem to have loos its rights also debian-sys-maint. Any way to restore it?
[14:11] <MasterShrek> Gin, 2.0 if your hardware supports it
[14:11] <Gin> master, but how do I know if my hardware support it or not?
[14:11] <Gin> MasterShrek: ^
[14:11] <AATW> Thanks, MasterkShrek.
[14:12] <void^> ikonia: you didn't really run fsck on it - without -f it just looked at the filesystem, saw the clean flag, and went back to sleep.
[14:12] <ikonia> void^: it sets it as clean though
[14:12] <void^> ikonia: in your paste it was clean to begin with
[14:12] <MasterShrek> Gin, i dont know, if your hardware is newer, within the last 3-5 yrs its prolly 2.0 (i cant say for sure, i dont know how long 2.0 has been aroud)
[14:12] <ikonia> void it shouldn't have been as I "removed" lost+found
[14:12] <MasterShrek> s/aroud/around
[14:13] <ikonia> void^: according to AATW
[14:13] <ikonia> void^: according to agent_bob sorry
[14:13] <ikonia> void^: the bottom line he didn't want to work it through
[14:13] <AATW> MasterShrek, I've saved the conf file. Now what?
[14:13] <MasterShrek> AATW, what have you been using to connect?
[14:13] <AATW> I'm on Ethernet atm.
[14:13] <MasterShrek> AATW, ive always just used straight command line
[14:13] <MasterShrek> AATW, i mean as a program
[14:13] <AATW> Oh, Terminal.
[14:14] <richo> Should i ask again or is just waiting? ;)
[14:14] <void^> ikonia: i think his problem is that he thinks the creation of lost+found wastes time (which it doesn't), but regarding e2fsck creating lost+found if actually run he was right
[14:14] <AATW> Is how I edited the file, MasterShrek.
[14:14] <AATW> But NetworkManager to connect, I guess, MasterShrek.
[14:14] <scguy318> ikonia: I just tried what he suggested, void^ is right
[14:14] <MasterShrek> AATW, i dont know for sure, but i think network manager should see that file
[14:14] <ikonia> void^: I didn't see he was wrong on the creation, but he just wanted the clean bit marking
[14:14] <ikonia> scguy318: yes, I know what he's saying is right, but not what agent_bob was saying
[14:15] <void^> ikonia: again, your filesystem was clean to begin with - if it starts out unclean lost+found will be created before it is marked clean
[14:15] <ikonia> void I realise that, but thats 30 seconds, he was saying thats hours
[14:15] <AATW> How would I know if it sees it, MasterShrek? And is there any other way to connect to the network
[14:15] <scguy318> ikonia: if you do e2fsck -y on the partition and it lacks lost+found, and you say no to its request, then the filesystem will be marked dirty I believe
[14:16] <Technoid_India> Hi everyone....
[14:16] <ikonia> scguy318: yes, thats correct, but thats not what agent_bob was asking for
[14:16] <MrJeep> hi
[14:16] <void^> ikonia: if he has a full 200gb unjournalled ext2 partition it may very well take hours - that's why nobody uses filesystems without a journal anymore
[14:16] <scguy318> ikonia: ah ok
[14:16] <MasterShrek> AATW, use the wpa_supplicant command from the command line
[14:16] <ikonia> void^: to just mark the clean but shouldn't take hours
[14:16] <MrJeep> I'm wondering where (in gnome) I can set the power setting to "maximum performances". I didn't find in the the power management panel
[14:17] <void^> ikonia: well, that's just asking for data loss :-)
[14:17] <richo> Between when making a "launcher" is it anyway good to "&" after application? :D
[14:17] <ikonia> void^: I agree with that, which is why I told him not to do it and do the full check
[14:17] <MasterShrek> AATW, iwconfig <interface> essid <network name>     then     wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d wext -i <interface>     then    dhclient3 <interface>
[14:17] <MasterShrek> AATW, it may not be -i wext though, depends on your card
[14:18] <AATW> You've lost me, MasterShrek.
[14:18] <MasterShrek> AATW, and all should be run as root or with sudo
[14:18] <scguy318> richo: in a Launcher exec field, theres no point in doing &
[14:18] <ikonia> oops
[14:18] <ikonia> sorry
[14:18] <MasterShrek> AATW, sorry, i just always do all this from the command line
[14:18] <soundray> MrJeep: ubuntu scales the frequency according to the CPU load. No need to fiddle.
[14:18] <richo> scguy318: ok
[14:18] <AATW> Ah, okay, MasterShrek. Problem is: I'm not too savvy with the command line.
[14:18] <MasterShrek> does anyone know if network manager will see /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?
[14:18] <richo> when starting gksudo avscan i get "GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 186 (g_strconcat): assertion `string1 != NULL' failed" any ideas where to look?
[14:18] <MasterShrek> AATW, awiating a response =P
[14:19] <scguy318> richo: did a nice GUI pop up?
[14:19] <MasterShrek> AATW, also that last link i gave you should help you to get it working
[14:19] <scguy318> richo: cuz I get stuff liek that all the time
[14:19] <richo> scguy318: correct
[14:19] <scguy318> richo: so there's no problem
[14:19] <MrJeep> soundray: Well, I have a problem with it... I havea 8600m GT card and as soon as I stop doing extensive tasks, it goes to low power mode (even when I'm plugged in). Then, all effect (even scrolling) are very sluggish until the cards go to normal mode..
[14:20] <richo> scguy318: ok sounds "good" never pleasent to get errors but ok ;)
[14:20] <AATW> MasterShrek, I'm really not too good with the command line.
[14:20] <MrJeep> soundray: I had the same problem in Vista :S
[14:21] <MasterShrek> AATW, and im not very good with the gui =P im not using ubuntu, much less gnome right now, and definately not network manager, do i cant really help you set it up i guess
[14:21] <richo> Well ok ill run avscan as sudo then i guess. saves so much time and ppl here doesn't make ti much fuss about it... ;)
[14:21] <simmerz> i've had to recompile ffmpeg from source to get it to convert video with sound properly. but how can i pin the version of ffmpeg to the compiled version and not the one in the repository?
[14:21] <AATW> Ah, okay. No problem. Thanks for trying, MasterShrek. I appreciate it.
[14:22] <AATW> There needs to an #ubuntu-n00bs channel.
[14:22] <chazco> Hi... anyone using a Nova-T USB dvb stick?
[14:22] <soundray> MrJeep: try setting the frequency governor to "performance" in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf
[14:23] <toresn> do any of you use ncftp?  if so, how do i clear the screen?
[14:23] <dgjones> !pin | simmerz
[14:23] <ubotu> simmerz: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[14:23] <stefg> !pinning | simmerz
[14:23] <pike_> simmerz: medibuntu repo has a correct version of ffmpeg i believe
[14:23] <vasya> hello to all
[14:23] <simmerz> pike_: thanks
[14:23] <vasya> how many people!!! exelent!
[14:24] <simmerz> dgjones: thanks
[14:24] <stefg> !anyone | chazco
[14:24] <ubotu> chazco: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:24] <richo> AATW: i know the answer suck but there are plenty instructions and howto's how to use commandline/terminal
[14:24] <mdmkolbe|work> I'm not sure where to start asking the problem so feel free to redirect me.  I created a deb with checkinstall, but that deb wont install.  "pkg --install foo.deb" gives me "unable to create `./etc/vmware/not_configured': No such file or directory"
[14:25] <mkultrax> there is a dot before your /etc
[14:25] <chazco> How do i get my remote control to work?
[14:25] <AATW> richo, I'm not an experienced Linux user. I just want WPA to work through NetworkManager on Ubuntu 7.10.
[14:25] <mkultrax> so its relative to the current directory maybe
[14:25] <stefg> chazco: lirc
[14:25] <stefg> !info lirc | chazco
[14:25] <ubotu> chazco: lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu8 (gutsy), package size 353 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[14:26] <MrGreencastl1> How can I make a folder hidden? I want to clean up my home directory of some things.
[14:26] <HackerGene> hi all
[14:26] <chazco> hmm... is that likely to work then? The remote is IR, but the sensor is built into the USB TV stick
[14:26] <richo> AATW: im i noob myself but since one of ypur issues was that u wasnt to good at using terminal/command line i suggest u use google and learn some. its really the best in the long term.
[14:26] <cliebow_> lo...anyone else having wireless issues in gutsy?
[14:26] <richo> sux but :P
[14:26] <stefg> chazco: some keys will work, some wont
[14:26] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1 , you rename it so the file starts with a period
[14:26] <chazco> I'd take anything for now :D
[14:26] <chazco> For preference, the numberss and arrows
[14:27] <MrGreencastl1> mkultrax: will that mess up anything? I want to hide the folders that compiz has, plugins etc
[14:27] <stefg> chazco: just read about how lirc works. open a termnal and press some buttons on the remote. you'll get keycodes, but you will have to map them yourself
[14:28] <AATW> richo, let me be honest: I don't want to learn the command line. If I can't get this working, I'll just have to revert back to Windows.
[14:28] <AATW> I don't see why WPA is an issue.
[14:28] <chazco> Thats not too bad then... wasnt expecting anything to work at all
[14:28] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1, it might break things that link to the file because it has a new name
[14:28] <AATW> It works on Mac OS 10.2 and on Windows 98.
[14:29] <mdmkolbe|work> mkultrax: I'm not sure that is the problem.  Running the install from / (which should eliminate the effect of the ".") still gives the same error.
[14:29] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1 most settings in your home folder are kept in folders that start with a period so they dont show, like .ssh for example
[14:29] <Lr5> Anyone knows where accessX settings for users are stored?
[14:29] <MrGreencastl1> mkultrax: So there is no way I can just 'mark' it hidden, as one could do in explorer? Oh well, I think that should be a feature in the future.
[14:29] <chazco> stefg: is there a command to start lirc?
[14:30] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1, not that i'm aware of..
[14:30] <stefg> chazco: installing lirc installs lircd (the daemon) and makes it an autostart service imho
[14:30] <soundray> chazco: lirc has a bit of a learning curve. Look at linuxtv.org to see if they have info about your specific adapter and its remote.
[14:30] <chazco> hmm ok... just wondering why I cant get anything to show up
[14:31] <MrGreencastl1> mkultrax: Darn, its really cluttered up my home directory, like 10 folders for compiz... Oh well
[14:31] <AATW> Can anyone help me with WPA / NetworkManager on Ubuntu 7.10? I see my network but cannot connect to it.
[14:31] <sb3365867> alguem sabe se tem como pega um url de radio que tem ASP e toca fora do wmp?
[14:31] <stefg> !wifi | aatw
[14:31] <ubotu> aatw: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:31] <toresn> do any of you use ncftp?  if so, how do i clear the screen? (yes, i have read the manual... :)
[14:32] <soundray> toresn: Ctrl-L not working?
[14:32]  * AATW sighs
[14:32] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1, i would make a folder called .compiz and put them in that subfolder..
[14:32] <AATW> stefg: I've gone over those. The solution isn't there.
[14:32] <owain> Anyone mind dealing with a total n00b query?
[14:32] <devilsadvocate> owain, ?
[14:32] <owain> specifically how to choose a proper resolution for my dell 24" FP
[14:32] <ikonia> owain: ask your question
[14:32] <owain> the drivers are installed right for my gfx card
[14:33] <ikonia> owain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set the correct settings
[14:33] <toresn> soundray: it would if i didn't use vi mode in bash
[14:33] <MrGreencastl1> mkultrax: Is that safe to do? I just don't want my compiz install going ape on me later.
[14:33] <soundray> owain: n00bs shouldn't have screens that big
[14:33] <owain> :P
[14:33] <soundray> owain: sorry, just kidding
[14:33] <owain> well I'm an oldskool computer nerd
[14:33] <owain> I just never did linux
[14:33] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1, well i'm not sure about that, but you can always just cd .compiz; mv * ../ to fix it
[14:33] <soundray> owain: it's okay then :)
[14:33] <owain> steep learning curve!
[14:33] <cliebow_> owain:cant you try some things wth dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[14:34] <MrGreencastl1> alright, I guess I'll try it
[14:34] <devilsadvocate> owain, what graphics card do you have?
[14:34] <stefg> AATW: i can't help with your problem, but i could probably help you to pick the right strategy to tackle it. http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html would be a good read to start, then enter make and model of your wifi adapter followed by 'ubuntu' into google, propably some howto will show up
[14:34] <chazco> According to a webpage it should show up the IR reciever inside the USB stick (dmesg)... it doesnt appear to
[14:35] <AATW> Thanks, stefg.
[14:35] <r3r3> sorry noob question but how you remove the join and quits
[14:35] <ubstud> hello I installed wine via package manager in ubuntu. But whenever I run something like wine "app" it says "creating directory" and it just jams up
[14:35] <ubstud> I can't move my cursor or anything so I have to force restart.
[14:35] <MrGreencastl1> mkultrax: yeah, there is already a .compiz folder, don't think this will work. Thanks for the suggestions though. I hope something to that effect gets implemented sometime in the future.
[14:35] <soundray> toresn: no idea then, sorry
[14:36] <Sham> Hey
[14:36] <mkultrax> MrGreencastl1, ya maybe in the next filesystem created we will have bits for hidden and whatnot, maybe shop for a different filesystem besides ext3 that does have that feature
[14:36] <Sham> Anyone there known with Wireless RT2500 problems
[14:36] <Mortice> sham: what problems are you having with it, exactly?
[14:37] <Sham> :( First, I have to mention that I m trying to configure my connection over 15 days
[14:37] <Sham> recently I installed ubuntu 7.10
[14:37] <Sham> and I tried to make my RT2500 work
[14:37] <Sham> but I can't open any sites
[14:37] <MrGreencastl1> mkultrax: Ugh, too time consuming - It would take me less time to sift through the extra folders, than that.
[14:37] <Sham> I can see the signal strength
[14:37] <Sham> and everything
[14:37] <Sham> but when I ping my router
[14:37] <chazco> It doesnt appear that the remote will work with Ubuntu :(
[14:37] <stefg> !ipv6 | sham
[14:37] <ubotu> sham: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[14:37] <Sham> its not reachable
[14:38] <dgjones> Sham, I use a pcmcia card based on RT2500 and i've found it works straight off with no configuration needed in Feisty and Gutsy
[14:38] <Mortice> sham: so you're associated to an AP but you don't have an ip address?
[14:38] <soundray> Looking for instructions on how to calibrate a scanner -- can you help? Web searches so far turn out only rubbish
[14:38] <chazco> Not without recompiling the kernel or somethign :(
[14:38] <jrib> MrGreencastl1: .compiz *is* hidden.  Am I missing something?
[14:38] <Mortice> Sham: that shouldn't have anything to do with the wireless card
[14:38] <LjL> soundray, unless you mean something weird with "calibrate"... you'll need a calibration card
[14:38] <Mortice> sham: *shouldn't*
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[14:38] <Sham> Yes, I m connected
[14:38] <Sham> it's showing all the points
[14:38] <toresn> soundray: i managed to use 'ctrl l' to clear the screen in the terminal... but ctrl-l obviously won't work in ncftp since the clear command itself doesn't work :)
[14:38] <stefg> Sham: that looks like a misconfigured dns server, so the prob looks more like the router
[14:38] <Sham> but I cant open a thing
[14:38] <soundray> LjL: that sounds like a piece of hardware :)
[14:39] <Sham> Well
[14:39] <Sham> I m using the same card now
[14:39] <Sham> just on windows partition
[14:39] <Mortice> Sham: what happens when you do 'sudo ipconfig' on a terminal? do you show as having a valid ip address for your network?
[14:39] <Sham> so I m sure its working
[14:39] <Sham> I think it does
[14:39] <LjL> soundray, no, it's a piece of paper with colors printed on it. the catch is that the color must be *accurate*
[14:39] <Mortice> Sham: you need to be sure of the answer before we can make any guesses as to the cause of the problem :)
[14:40] <Sham> Yeps
[14:40] <soundray> LjL: so essentially I'd scan that and compare it visually with the screen image.
[14:40] <RicMar> soundray: I'm sorry, but I had a meet...
[14:40] <stefg> Sham: disble ipv6 and read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=625695
[14:40] <LjL> soundray: no, you'd scan it and use some kewl software to make the measurements. now, i don't know of any such free software :) VueScan does it. but anyway, aren't we perhaps straying off from what you intended to ask? what exactly did you mean with calibrate?
[14:41] <MrGreencastl1> jrib: I just wanted to know if I could hide all the folders I had to git that are now cluttering my home folder. I have a knack for neatness.
[14:41] <RicMar> Soundray: Do you remember my problem?
[14:41] <soundray> LjL: the default settings I get in sane give me weird scan results, and all I've tried so far made them weirder...
[14:41] <soundray> RicMar: yes, I do
[14:42] <stefg> MrGreencastl1: all files/folders beginning with a . (dot) are hidden on linux/unix
[14:42] <Mortice> stefg: why are you linking to a thread that suggests ndiswrapper drivers for the rt2500 when there is full native support?
[14:42] <soundray> RicMar: have you booted with or without the acpi=force option this time?
[14:42] <simmerz> i have gutsy installed. when i installed it the first time, I got compiz running and i had fancy desktop stuff. this time (I had to reinstall from scratch) it refuses to start up, leaving me with a basic desktop. any ideas? nvidia graphics, with the nvidia driver running
[14:42] <Sham> I tried
[14:42] <Regarok> hi guys, could someone recommend a good divx plugin for mozilla please?
[14:42] <Sham> with ndsiwrapper drivers
[14:42] <Sham> before
[14:42] <Mortice> stefg: there is absolutely no need to mess with the rt2500 drivers in gutsy. Sham's problem is almost certainly not a driver issue.
[14:42] <Regarok> firefox*
[14:42] <Sham> but eventually I found out that I dont need them
[14:42] <LjL> soundray, define "weird"... complete calibration could be nice, but if you just want a scanner that works with acceptable colors, it's overkill. do you know if it works correctly on Windows, or something?
[14:42] <meetoo> MrGreencastl1: use onfiguration editor to change nautilus not to show on desktop
[14:42] <LjL> soundray, if "weird" means too light or too dark, it might be the gamma
[14:43] <soundray> LjL: yes, gamma: could you explain to me what it means, in rough terms?
[14:43] <RicMar> soundray: without
[14:43] <jrib> MrGreencastl1: you can hide things that don't start with a . by adding their names to ".hidden"
[14:43] <LjL> soundray, offtopic, join -classroom please
[14:43] <Regarok> hi guys, could someone recommend a good divx plugin for firefox please?
[14:44] <jrib> Regarok: mplayer
[14:44] <Regarok> thank man
[14:44] <soundray> RicMar: I think it's safe to boot your computer with the acpi=force option.
[14:46] <gaurish__> !codecs
[14:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:47] <RicMar> soundray, but why?
[14:47] <RicMar> why does the "force" option mean?
[14:47] <mimoly> Hello ..
[14:47] <ceppa> ciao
[14:47] <gaurish__> !repo
[14:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[14:48] <ceppa> c'è qualche italiano?
[14:48] <MasterShrek> !it
[14:48] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:48] <stefg> !it
[14:48]  * MasterShrek wins
[14:48] <MasterShrek> =P
[14:48] <gaurish__> lol
[14:48] <ceppa> ok thx
[14:48] <mimoly> :)
[14:48] <soundray> RicMar: in your case it forces the lapic to work and enables your ACPI in spite of what the BIOS says
[14:48] <aussieman__> since i upgraded to gutsy googleearth wont find my graphics card - any suggestions?
[14:48] <gaurish__> !mediaubuntu
[14:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediaubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <Mortice> !medibuntu | gaurish
[14:49] <ubotu> gaurish: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:49] <gaurish__> Mortice, thanks
[14:49] <Mortice> gaurish__: no problem :)
[14:49] <aussieman__> since i upgraded to gutsy googleearth wont find my graphics card - any suggestions?
[14:49] <mimoly> Hello
[14:49] <mimoly> :)
[14:49] <supersonic_soad> does anyone know why ubunut doesn't shutdow the computer completely?
[14:49] <Terrasque> aussieman__: what card you got?
[14:50] <MrGreencastl1> jrib: excellent
[14:50] <MrGreencastl1> thanks
[14:50] <Profanephobia> im not sure where else to ask for help with this issue but can someone tell me what they think is going wrong here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46333/
[14:50] <MasterShrek> aussieman__, how did you install google earth?
[14:50] <aussieman__> Terrasque, not sure its a hp laptop
[14:50] <aussieman__> from synaptic
[14:50] <ikonia> lol
[14:50] <ikonia> oops
[14:50] <aussieman__> it  worked fine in fiesty
[14:50] <ikonia> stupid cut and paste line went wrong
[14:50] <ikonia> apologies
[14:50] <Terrasque> aussieman__: ati, intel, nvidia? any idea?
[14:50] <MasterShrek> aussieman__, lspci | grep VGA     will give you waht kinda graphics card it is
[14:50] <aussieman__> intel i think
[14:51] <aussieman__> hang on ill check
[14:51] <Mortice> Profanephobia: not that I know anything about the protocol, but the remote host is sending a TermReq (termination request) after you send a packet (ll. 57-8). The packet which causes it doesn't seem to have valid ip addresses in it. My bet is that that's the cause.
[14:51] <gherk> join #xxxpass
[14:51] <aussieman__> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:52] <Plat4m> Hello.. does anyone has a good idea why amarok (the mp3 player) freezes when ever i try to playback mp3 files? the screen turns back and the program suddently won't respond.. :S
[14:52] <RCOMALTA> how have mail server on ubutu msg me
[14:52] <MasterShrek> !lamp | RCOMALTA
[14:52] <ubotu> RCOMALTA: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[14:52] <MasterShrek> nvm, m is mysql
[14:52] <MasterShrek> =P
[14:53] <Profanephobia> Mortice, so maybe if i set a static IP in the script, you think that might work? (thanks btw)
[14:53] <Crosswing> !mail
[14:53] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <Crosswing> !mailserver
[14:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mailserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <Crosswing> Hm.
[14:53] <Crosswing> !postfix
[14:53] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[14:53] <Mortice> Profanephobia: no idea. worth a go.
[14:53] <Hammer89> do the desktop effects not work when you're running Ubuntu from a LiveCD?
[14:54] <aussieman__> MasterShrek, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[14:54] <avtt> when I move a window in dapper it seems sluggisdh; how to fix this?
[14:54] <MasterShrek> aussieman__, i dont know much about intel gfx cards, if it was nvidia id be ale to help you
[14:54] <MasterShrek> Hammer89, chances are you need a proprietary driver, which the liveCD doesnt come with
[14:54] <aussieman__> ok thanks anyway
[14:54] <Sors> i'm having issues with grub installer on nUbuntu
[14:54] <MasterShrek> Hammer89, after an install you should be able to get it running
[14:55] <Hammer89> MasterShrek: is there a way to get it working while using the LiveCD? (sorry if that's a n00b question ;)
[14:55] <MasterShrek> im out
[14:55] <meetoo> aussieman__: intel cards are always supported by the latest kernel, try a newer version.
[14:55] <avtt> shrek I have E Gforce 8800 GTS 640mb :D on my gasming pc. this pc got radion saphire x800 gto
[14:55] <MasterShrek> Hammer89, yes, but its pointless cuz it wont stay after an install/reboot
[14:55] <dgjones> !grub | Sors, This may help as a starter for fixing your grub problems
[14:55] <ubotu> Sors, This may help as a starter for fixing your grub problems: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:56] <aussieman__> meetoo, apt-get upgrade?
[14:56] <Fethman> does anyone knows if I can use an animated gif for a wallpaper
[14:56] <RicMar> soundray: thank you, but why this didn't happen on 7.4 version of ubuntu?
[14:56] <mhiku> how to make activex
[14:56] <meetoo> aussieman__: haha not that easy maan, its kernel compiling madness
[14:56] <aussieman__> oh ok
[14:57] <ikonia> meetoo: why are you telling him to compile his own kernel
[14:57] <Sors> I'll read them thanks
[14:57] <avtt> who knows how to fix a sluggish dapper system? I mean when I move a window it keeps stopping on its own
[14:57] <ciacon> hi folks - how can I change my IP address from commandline... if I change it with ipconfig the settings are gone after a reboot....
[14:57] <ikonia> aussieman__: what is the problem.
[14:57] <ikonia> ciacon: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:57] <aussieman__> ikonia, because google earth wont find my intel graphics card
[14:57] <ikonia> aussieman__: won't find it ?
[14:57] <meetoo> aussieman__: wait wait, so ur card works, but tis google earth that does not?
[14:57] <Sham> ok me again
[14:57] <aussieman__> thats right - since going to gutsy  get a message saying gearth cant find it
[14:57] <aussieman__> yes
[14:57] <Sham> I will reinstall Ubuntu again
[14:58] <Sham> so please provide me
[14:58] <Sham> the right guide
[14:58] <Sham> to configure my RT2500
[14:58] <ikonia> meetoo: even if it didn't x drivers are nothing to do with the kenrnel, unless its nvidia
[14:58] <aussieman__> meetoo, yes thats right the prob is gearth
[14:58] <SpoZen> quick q about nfs, what do they mean by this: server.mydomain.com? if i want to connect to my server can i use my local lan adress eg 192.168.1.3?
[14:58] <ciacon> ikonia: thanks
[14:58] <aussieman__> sorry ikonia that was for you
[14:58] <Terrasque> aussieman__: in a terminal, run "glxinfo | grep direct"
[14:58] <ikonia> aussieman__: can you explain the error please
[14:58] <pubo> Why, if my computer only has an IDE HD, ubuntu mount it as /dev/sdax?
[14:58] <drew> Hey whats a good site for GDM Themes?
[14:58] <aussieman__> since i upgraded to gutsy googleearth wont find my graphics card - any suggestions?
[14:59] <ikonia> pubo: libata now shows all disks as "sdX"
[14:59] <meetoo> aussieman__: wat's the specific error you get when u launch google earth from a terminal
[14:59] <soundray> RicMar: I don't know. 7.10 introduced a few problems for me, too, so I guess your experience is not unusual
[14:59] <ikonia> aussieman__: what do you mean "won't find"
[14:59] <Sham> Can anyone please provide RT2500 wireless card installation guide. THanks
[14:59] <pubo> ikonia, and what happens with hdparm?? is there a substitute?
[14:59] <ikonia> pubo: hdparm should still work
[14:59] <ShortShorts> -dc
[14:59] <dgjones> Sham, from my own experience, my rt2500 card works just by installing ubuntu, i just had to click on the network manager in the top right of the screen and tell it which access point to connect to
[14:59] <pubo> ikonia, oh, thanks
[14:59] <aussieman__> ib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[14:59] <aussieman__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[14:59] <aussieman__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[14:59] <richo> avscan / clamav keeps saying i got a trojan.  Fresh installed ubuntu 7.1 with firestarter. How is this possible and how can i get rid of it? i cant really just remove kcore ;) //proc/kcore - trojan.vb-204
 I can connect
[15:00] <ikonia> aussieman__: ok - so the problem is the 3d settings on the nvidia card not being enabled
[15:00] <Sham> but I cant open any sites
[15:00] <aussieman__> glxinfo | grep direct
[15:00] <aussieman__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[15:00] <aussieman__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[15:00] <aussieman__> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[15:00] <aussieman__> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[15:00] <Sham> it's showing signal strength
[15:00] <Sham> but I cant open a thing
[15:00] <ikonia> aussieman__: please use a pastebin in future
[15:00] <genii> !pase | aussieman__
[15:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pase - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:00] <genii> !paste | aussieman__
[15:00] <ubotu> aussieman__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[15:00] <aussieman__> ok
[15:00] <meetoo> ikonia: its an intel card
[15:00] <ikonia> meetoo: yes ?
[15:01] <drew> Does anyone know of a good GDM Themes site?
[15:01] <ikonia> drew: gnome-look.org
[15:01] <drew> thanks
[15:01] <IndyGunFreak> drew, gnome-look.org?..lol
[15:01] <idiosync> ubuntu uses rpm doesn't it..?
[15:01] <owain> thanks for the help btw
[15:01] <ikonia> idiosync: no
[15:01] <Sham> Anyone to help me out
[15:01] <aussieman__> ikonia, yes intel like i said above
[15:01] <owain> I'm up to 1280/800 which is an improvement at lest ;)
[15:01] <genii> idiosync: No. deb
[15:01] <dgjones> Sham, i'm not sure what to suggest, do you have an ip address?
[15:01] <jurgentje> Hey... I've got a problem with Amarok. When trying to install the MP3-extensions (Adept Batch), it fails (not found or conflicting with other packets) ... is there a way for me to figure out where the conflict is?
[15:01] <IndyGunFreak> !rpm
[15:01] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:02] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, are you trying to install the plugin using amarok?
 I m using DHCP
[15:02] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: yeps, I am
[15:02] <idiosync> so what do you call you automated binaries
[15:02] <Sham> It automaticly add dns servers
[15:02] <Sham> and everything
[15:02] <aussieman__> meetoo ikonia ??
[15:02] <Sham> but I can't open a thing
[15:02] <IndyGunFreak> idiosync, those would be .deb files, i guess tats what you're asking about.... what are you trying to install?
[15:03] <meetoo> aussieman__: output of glxgears
[15:03] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, do you have the universe repos enabled?
[15:03] <idiosync> vmware-tools
[15:03] <aussieman__> ?
[15:03] <idiosync> n
[15:03] <IndyGunFreak> idiosync, thats in the repos,
[15:03] <IndyGunFreak> !vmware | idiosync
[15:03] <ubotu> idiosync: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[15:03] <richo> avscan / clamav keeps saying i got a trojan.  Fresh installed ubuntu 7.1 with firestarter. How is this possible and how can i get rid of it? i cant really just remove kcore ;) //proc/kcore - trojan.vb-204    o i also wanna add that i have searched entire disc thats mounted and no virus there.
[15:03] <meetoo> aussieman__: #glxgears post the average FPS if no errors
[15:04] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, if so do: sudo apt install gstreamer0.8-mad
[15:04] <dgjones> Sham, can you connect to your internal network? eg can you get to the router configuration page and is it just the internet you can't get to
[15:04] <aussieman__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46339/
[15:04] <IndyGunFreak> why not just use the medibuntu repo?
[15:04] <stefg> richo: that's most probably a false positive. That's *windows* malware that won't even run on a linux system
[15:04] <pipegeek> Ugh
[15:04]  * IndyGunFreak wonders why you're running AV software on your Linux box
[15:04] <richo> stefg: hmm ok. seems quite fun
[15:04] <Sham> Anyone had any RT2500 issues
[15:05] <linux_> do we need security when we have ubuntu?
[15:05] <aussieman__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46339/ meetoo
[15:05] <stefg> !antivirus | richo
[15:05] <ubotu> richo: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[15:05] <linux_> ?
[15:05] <mkultrax> chkrootkit is my antivirus
[15:05] <pipegeek> In the last two days, compiz has eaten up all of my memory twice (once necessitating a hard reboot).  All I can think that's changed (unless a new version got pushed out and I forgot about it) is that I've been running opera.  Is there some strange interaction between opera and compiz fusion?  Gutsy, btw.
[15:05] <linux_> what if soemone trys to hack you
[15:05] <IndyGunFreak> linux_, of course we need security, but i think AV is pushing it, a hardware firewall w/ SPI(which i consider bare minimum), should suffice just fine
[15:05] <linux_> can they
[15:05] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: (I'm running KDE btw... if it would be relevant) ...
[15:06] <mkultrax> linux_, sure they can , keep ur system up to date
[15:06] <richo> stefg: Thats depends on who u ask. ofcourse there ar vir. but very unlikely yes.
[15:06] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, ok... have you tried to install that package yet?
[15:06] <meetoo> aussieman__: how did u install GFX drivers ?
[15:06] <idiosync> thanks just playing around tryin to find the best vm for my 933mhz pc qemu had my cpu at 99% but vmware sits at 40%
[15:06] <linux_> it is up to date but what security would you consider
[15:06] <Crosswing> !linuxvirus
[15:06] <pike_> linux_: the biggest security hole in linux is the end user and that is difficult to control
[15:06] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[15:06] <Sham> Anyone there to help me out with RT2500 please ...
[15:06] <IndyGunFreak> pike_, exactly
[15:07] <IndyGunFreak> linux_, do you have a hardware firewall/router?
[15:07] <linux_> ok
[15:07] <aussieman__> meetoo i didnt install hem to the best of my knowledge
[15:07] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: I'm trying to find (in KDE) what repo's are active...
[15:07] <linux_> yea
[15:07] <meetoo> aussieman__: thats ur problem right there
[15:07] <IndyGunFreak> linux_, then i probably wouldn't concern myself to much with CLAM, firestarter, etc.
[15:07] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, ok
[15:07] <meetoo> aussieman__: download the latest drivers from intel website
[15:07] <linux_> kk ill get clam
[15:07] <linux_> thanks
[15:08] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, should still be in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[15:08] <IndyGunFreak> linux_, no, i'm saying i wouldn't bother getting them
[15:08] <IndyGunFreak> you can if you want, but i think its unecessary
[15:08] <linux_> o
[15:08] <linux_> lol
[15:08] <linux_> ok
[15:08] <aussieman__> ok
[15:08] <linux_> well anyways thanks man
[15:08] <IndyGunFreak> np
[15:08] <linux_> going to go see u
[15:08] <pike_> linux_: you can play with the rootkit checkers if you want
[15:09] <aussieman__> meetoo will that do it?
[15:09] <meetoo> that will make ur gfx work properly, then u should not get any errors wioth glxgears etc etc
[15:09] <Sham> Rt200 lf help
[15:09] <cobra18> ciao
[15:09] <aussieman__> ok
[15:09] <meetoo> aussieman__: that will make ur gfx work properly, then u should not get any errors wioth glxgears etc etc
[15:09] <richo> stefg: also i actaully do serve ms thingys so yes i really really do need av.
[15:09] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: as I thought... (I had it under Gnome) ... it's there...both universe and multiverse
[15:10] <mikebeecham> what is the mac-like taskbar on the bottom of some people's screens
[15:10] <aussieman__> meeper, thanks mate ill try that
[15:10] <meetoo> aussieman__: http://yogharp.wordpress.com/2006/12/19/ubuntu-edgy-on-intel-945gm-graphics-wide-screen-lcd-notebooks/
[15:10] <IndyGunFreak> !avant | mikebeecham
[15:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:10] <bonsaiMonkey> how can i change from s-video to composit on nvidia couse when i clone my screen to my tv its black and white
[15:10] <Abu-Aadam> Hi my emerald theme manager doesn't let me install new themes, it has none listed in themes either
[15:10] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, ok then try doing sudo apt install gstreamer0.8-mad
[15:10] <Abu-Aadam> Am I missing something?
[15:10] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, then restart amarok
[15:11] <richo> Abu-Aadam: yeah ur brain
[15:11] <devilsadvocate> can someone tell me how to use a joystick as a mouse on ubuntu?
[15:11] <richo> i just had to ;) sorri
[15:11] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak : thanks mate
[15:11] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: doing it as we're speaking...
[15:12] <mikebeecham> I saw a tilted one the other day (A bit like leopard) and I fell in love
[15:12] <mikebeecham> lol
[15:12] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, np, i was thinking ubotu had an avant query, but i guess it doesn't.. but google avant window manager, thats what you want
[15:12] <richo> Abu-Aadam: ill leave now before imake ppl made! ciao and have a nice weekend
[15:12] <richo> mad
[15:12] <Sham> Anyone know any RT2500 wireless card instalation guide
[15:13] <IndyGunFreak> Sham, have you tried just following the normal wireless guides, and using ndiswrapper?
[15:13] <o_> @@
[15:13] <Sham> Yes
[15:13] <Sham> I did, but
[15:13] <Sham> It didn't work
[15:13] <Sham> I m connected
[15:13] <Sham> it shows signal strength
[15:13] <IndyGunFreak> !enter
[15:13] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:13] <PhenomX4> o_; you seem to be missing an eye. shall I call a doctor?
[15:14] <martint> I have lost granting permissions for MySQL. My root has someway lost the permissions and I dont now how to restore it....
[15:14] <martint> I have lost granting permissions for MySQL. My root has someway lost the permissions and I dont now how to restore it....
[15:14] <Sham> It's pretty wierd since I m connected, but it won't open any sites
[15:14] <PhenomX4> FREAK OUT!!! use mysqld_safe
[15:14] <Luke> I'm running gutsy and I still get prompted for a keyring password to use networkmanager after login. It does not provide the checkbox to disable this. Any suggestions?
[15:14] <ikonia> PhenomX4: please calm down
[15:14] <PhenomX4> you'll have to look for a guide via google (which there are PLENTY of)
[15:14] <IndyGunFreak> Sham, i really don't know...
[15:14] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | Sham
[15:14] <ubotu> Sham: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:14] <PhenomX4> ikonia; I'm fine..?
[15:15] <ikonia> < PhenomX4> FREAK OUT!!! use mysqld_safe
[15:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[15:15] <PhenomX4> he was spamming...
[15:15] <idiosync> Sham http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/rt2x00-wireless-lan-chipset
[15:15] <IndyGunFreak> didn't even have to scrll up for thatone
[15:15] <ikonia> idiosync: thats for fedora !
[15:15] <idiosync> lol i know
[15:15] <Silmeria> i kinda got my screen working... its still not full screen now there is only black edges on the right and left sides
[15:15] <Sham> Thanks Idios, hopefully It will help since I m trying more than 10 days
[15:15] <ikonia> idiosync: so why give it to an ubuntu user
[15:16] <perpetual> ikonia, soundray at work I just tried to recreate the problem with booting after copying a system over to another harddisk with my rsync method
[15:16] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: done it... but on launch, Amarok still seems to download a bunch of other stuff, but I don't get to see what it all downloads... so I can't manually install all those :s
[15:16] <ikonia> Sham: I advise you not to follow that guide
[15:16] <ikonia> perpetual: oh yes
[15:16] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[15:16] <idiosync> i been using fedora for years trying ubuntu
[15:16] <jurgentje> still can't play my podcasts... :p
[15:16] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak: looks great
[15:16] <PhenomX4> there's nothing harmful about doing it...
[15:16] <ikonia> idiosync so ? you've just given an ubuntu user a fedora guided method
[15:16] <perpetual> ikonia, soundray well the problem did not recur.
[15:16] <idiosync> not really much difference
[15:16] <ikonia> perpetual: really, now that is interesting to know
[15:16] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, if thats your thing i refer the normal Gnome.
[15:16] <atlfalcons866> is there a dvd with kubuntu ubuntu and xubuntu on the same disc?
[15:16] <jurgentje> Profanephobia: can I PM you (it's easier to talk)
[15:17] <Profanephobia> jurgentje, thats fine
[15:17] <ikonia> idiosync: have you tried it on an ubuntu machine, with ubuntu paths and package versions ?
[15:17] <PhenomX4> it's a kernel driver/module. that's in *EVERY* Linux distro.
[15:17] <bonsaiMonkey> can someone help me? how can i change from s-video to composit on nvidia couse when i clone my screen to my tv its black and white
[15:17] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak:  I'm a new linux user, so I'm experiencing all I can until I settle down
[15:17] <idiosync> sorry i will refrain from blurting
[15:17] <mikebeecham> I had a mac in the past, ergo...
[15:17] <IndyGunFreak> atlfalcons866, i don't know bout the same disk, but i know they sell all 3 disks
[15:17] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, understood.
[15:17] <atlfalcons866> then whats on the ubuntu dvd
[15:17] <rpj8> How do I remove orphaned dependences with apt-get?
[15:18] <IndyGunFreak> atlfalcons866, its really useful for folks on dial up, as a BUNCH of packages are on the disk, thus not requiring access to the internet
[15:18] <PhenomX4> rpj8; apt-get autoremove
[15:18] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak: ...I do like gnome...and I'm trying to replace the ubuntu logo with a foot logo, but it's proving more difficult than it should!!!
[15:18] <rpj8> PhenomX4: Appreciated. thanks
[15:18] <PhenomX4> no prob.
[15:18] <RCOMALTA> there is any way to setup mail server icons not text ??
[15:18] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, you mean on boot up?
[15:18]  * PhenomX4 pokes ikonia
[15:18] <ikonia> RCOMALTA: no
[15:18] <IndyGunFreak> or in the taskbar?
[15:18] <mikebeecham> on the panel
[15:18] <mikebeecham> menu
[15:18] <ikonia> PhenomX4: sorry I was away from screen, what's up
[15:19] <PhenomX4> are you an opper by chance?
[15:19] <Abu-Aadam> can somebody tell me how to get emerald themes working
[15:19] <ikonia> PhenomX4: nein
[15:19] <IndyGunFreak> ya, i'm not sure how to do that.... i'm sure it can be done though, mine looks like the Mac Square head, but its part of my theme.
[15:19] <ikonia> PhenomX4: well, not in this channel.
[15:19] <Abu-Aadam> i'v installed new themes they don't show up in the manager though
[15:19] <mikebeecham> what theme do you have?
[15:19] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, why not just try Gnome Debian..lol, it has the foot there.
[15:19] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, hang on.
[15:19] <PhenomX4> ikonia; ah, n/m. I was just going to make a simple point. irrelevant now.
[15:19] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak : because I'm struggling with ubuntu at the moment....got to walk before I can run!!!
[15:19] <PhenomX4> food time.
[15:19] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, understood.
[15:20] <ikonia> PhenomX4 no problem
[15:21] <sereno> irc.animenfo.com
[15:21] <Abu-Aadam> Anybody know why the emerald theme managers not working at all?
[15:21] <hums> Hi folks. need help here. I v just installed Ubuntu 7.10 at work computer. It is now dual boot. I usually print in XP via Standard TCP/IP printer. I dont know the server name but to setup the printer in XP, I just put IP address and port and select printer type. How do I set this in Gutsy? Thx
[15:21] <alakx> Hello, in ubuntu 7.10, where can i change the startup command for pure-ftpd ?
[15:22] <Luke> I'm running gutsy and I still get prompted for a keyring password to use networkmanager after login. It does not provide the checkbox to disable this. Any suggestions?
[15:22] <corruptionoflulz> Abu-Aadam: you could try posting on the forums, then people can look over it and not have to reply instantly
[15:23] <Andycasss> Is there something equivalent to xinetd in ubuntu?
[15:23] <alakx> I mean, where can i modify the start command for pure-ftp ?
[15:23] <alakx> In which file are they located
[15:23] <Andycasss> alakx: im looking for the same thing
[15:23] <perpetual> ikonia, so it may actually be a jumper problem on the harddisk.
[15:23] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, i can't find it unfortunately, it was on GNome-look.org really though its just the icon set, etc.
[15:23] <ikonia> perpetual: thats a reasonable call, but at the same time it does start to boot, so I'd be surprised. perpetual very interesting issue
[15:23] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak : will look at that one
[15:24] <monfreex> join #codeigniter
[15:24] <perpetual> ikonia, the test I just did was on a machine with sata disks, so not exactly the same. libata issues would not be tested with respect to the backwards compatibility for pata.
[15:25] <mathen> I've recently installed Ubuntu 7.10. And when I try to turn on visual effects, I get an error message saying Desktop Effects could not be enabled. What should I do?
[15:25] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham, gimme a second, i'll brb... i think i have it in my bookmarks onmy laptop
[15:26] <brandon> i have a problem.... ubuntu will not read alll files on a data dvd
[15:26] <perpetual> ikonia, I think that with the absence of other disks, grub will call the only disk (hd0) even when it is in fact secondary on the ide chain.
[15:26] <Hammer89> Mathen: I'm guessing go to system-administration-restricted drivers management
[15:26] <ikonia> perpetual: I would agree with that as grub is dynamic so (hd1) would become (hd0)
[15:27] <codesnik> looks like my system is broken totally. can I reinstall ubuntu from scratch, but have my /home persist reinstallation?
[15:27] <mikebeecham> ok
[15:27] <brandon> why cant i read all files on a dvd?
[15:27] <dgjones> codesnik, is your /home a seperate partition?
[15:27] <rpj8> codesnik: Yes, if you move it to a separate partition
[15:27] <perpetual> ikonia, but I don't know what the kernel will do now. Normally it would call it /dev/hdb, but with the new libata code I assume the only disk would still be called /dev/sda.
[15:27] <codesnik> no, it's on the same partition, unfortunatelly
[15:27] <ikonia> perpetual: it should still reference /dev/sd
[15:28] <rpj8> codesnik: Create a new partition, move your /home directory to it, and then reinstall
[15:28] <mathen> Hammer89 , it said another Synapic running in inte....." and then quit
[15:28] <codesnik> and it just not enough space to create one more
[15:28] <codesnik> damn, looks like i have to buy another 500gb
[15:28] <rpj8> codesnik: Then delete some stuff.
[15:28] <PhenomX4> I just bought 2
[15:28] <Hammer89> Mathen: Hmm... I'm not sure what to say then... I haven't gotten past using a LiveCD :)
[15:28] <dgjones> codesnik, how big is your /home?
[15:29] <codesnik> 300gb
[15:29] <brandon> his home is what he doesnt want to delete
[15:29] <codesnik> music, videos and stuff
[15:29] <rpj8> codesnik: GOod lord.
[15:29] <PhenomX4> word
[15:29] <codesnik> why not, dammit
[15:29] <PhenomX4> my 1TB is like 60some percent filled...
[15:29] <mathen> Anyone know why I can not activate Visual Effects?
[15:29] <brandon> code.. how big is your hardrive?
[15:29] <mathen> I'm using a HP Compaq nx9420
[15:29] <hums> ikonia, perpetual, I experienced that I installed in computer with two harddisk. During install I disable the first HD (cause it is faulty). But menu.lst lists my system on 2nd HD while it should become 1st HD. So I just edit menu.lst to make it work
[15:29] <PhenomX4> mathen; the terminal does :D
[15:30] <mathen> What should I write there, PhenomX4?
[15:30] <perpetual> ikonia, yes, but would /dev/hdb -> /dev/sda or /dev/hdb -> /dev/sdb ?
[15:30] <PhenomX4> mathen; try: glxinfo | grep direct
[15:30] <ikonia> hums: you've missed a bit of a long story, so your way off, but thanks for the input
[15:30] <PhenomX4> does it say "yes"?
[15:30] <ikonia> perpetual: I'd expect it to be sda - not b
[15:30] <hums> ikonia, sorry
[15:30] <dgjones> codesnik, right, ouch, i keep things like that in a seperate /media partition to avoid problems like that, maybe something to remember for a reinstall, create a seperate /home and a seperate media or data partition to keep them seperate
[15:30] <brandon> anyone ever hear of a problem where dvd will not read?
[15:30] <mathen> visual... gave me alot of text
[15:30] <ikonia> hums: no need for that, just pointing out you're on the wrong track, its a long story
[15:30] <mathen> grep didn't do anything gor me
[15:31] <PhenomX4> hmm?
[15:31] <codesnik> ok, this is the obvious way
[15:31] <Ximal> Does anyone here have the answer to this question ? because until my books get here.. I won't be able to find out on my own.. I'm trying to configure my apache server to ask for username and pwds .. like login pwd etc..
[15:31] <brandon> there are more files on the dvd than what ubuntu will show
[15:31] <PhenomX4> just copy and paste that as one command: glxinfo | grep direct
[15:31] <mathen> I'm guessing I need to update my drivers for my graphic card.
[15:31] <Ximal> can someone please show me a reference file to go to ?
[15:31] <MicrosoftSUX> what program should i use to view every cpu on my lan and their ip,mac ect... any ideas anyone?
[15:31] <ikonia> Ximal: ask in #apache
[15:31] <ikonia> Ximal: this is ubuntu support
[15:31] <PhenomX4> | is pipe... not a separator for commands
[15:31] <Ximal> they don't answer..
[15:31] <ikonia> Ximal: if your patient they will.
[15:31] <codesnik> but maybe there's a way to do reainstall and still not have to move thoose 300gb around?
[15:31] <mummia71> ciao
[15:31] <mummia71> !list
[15:31] <Ximal> nah.. they just joking around in there..
[15:31] <ikonia> Ximal: there are many authentication methods, and they can probably advise the best setup
[15:32] <mathen> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[15:32] <PhenomX4> mathen; ...just scroll up... do you see "direct rendering: Yes"?
[15:32] <PhenomX4> ah right
[15:32] <mathen> OPENGL render string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[15:32] <PhenomX4> do you have an ATi card?
[15:32] <Ximal> thanks future ... errr ... * silences mouth * peace out m8's
[15:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:32] <mathen> I do, Phenomx4
[15:32] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham: wel, i can't find it anywhere, but here's a screenshot of my laptop, to give you an idea...  http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/screenlaptop.jpg
[15:32] <Andycasss> can i sudo with pass already given to it, like this: sudo (pass) cmd?
[15:32] <PhenomX4> mathen; which one? :)
[15:32] <MicrosoftSUX> what program should i use to view every cpu on my lan and their ip,mac ect... any ideas anyone?
[15:32] <Andycasss> I dont want to get the prompt for pass
[15:33] <brandon> system monitor
[15:33] <ikonia> MicrosoftSUX: you don't
[15:33] <brandon> oh
[15:33] <brandon> nvm
[15:33] <ikonia> Bastian: l(
[15:33] <MicrosoftSUX> ikonia, why not?
[15:33] <AATW> I cannot connect to my WPA network from 7.10 Gusty. Anyone know why this might be?
[15:33] <ikonia> brandon: ;)
[15:33] <brandon> lol
[15:33] <ikonia> MicrosoftSUX: because you'd have to roll out enterprise monitoring clients
[15:33] <PhenomX4> Andycasss; sudo su - (then log in) export EDITOR=nano;visudo
[15:33] <MicrosoftSUX> what about Lan View?
[15:34] <PhenomX4> Andycasss; go to the bottom, uncomment the "wheel without password" line (well, the one right below that.. you'll see it)
[15:34] <ikonia> PhenomX4: we don't recommend that at all
[15:34] <mathen> Ati Mobility Radeon x1600
[15:34] <ikonia> PhenomX4: sudo su
[15:34] <PhenomX4> ikonia; the man wants it.
[15:34] <Bastian> @ brandon ?
[15:34] <ikonia> PhenomX4: thats not the point, don't give out that advice
[15:34] <PhenomX4> it's perfectly safe to sudo su -
[15:34] <mathen> PhenomX4, did you see what I wrote? (Ati Mobility Radeon x1600)
[15:34] <PhenomX4> ikonia; how long have you been using Linux for?
[15:34] <ikonia> PhenomX4: its not the ubuntu supported method
[15:34] <MicrosoftSUX> does anyone know the URL of the ubuntu guide, the guide for setting up apache ect.. ?
[15:34] <ikonia> PhenomX4: a long time
[15:34] <PhenomX4> non-steop, daily
[15:34] <PhenomX4> stop*
[15:34] <AATW> Gutsy*
[15:34] <PhenomX4> so have I, it's dumb to say not to do that.
[15:34] <Luke> I'm running gutsy and I still get prompted for a keyring password to use networkmanager after login. It does not provide the checkbox to disable this. Any suggestions?
[15:34] <dgjones> !lamp | MicrosoftSUX
[15:34] <ubotu> MicrosoftSUX: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:35] <PhenomX4> there's nothing wrong with temporarily logging in as root.
[15:35] <ikonia> PhenomX4: thats not the point, the point is to povide ubuntu supported methods, if you don't like it discuss it in #ubuntu-ops
[15:35] <brandon> can anyone connect to my computer and show me how to find a file on a dvd rom... it is not showing up... like my dvd reader just wont read a select few of the files
[15:35] <PhenomX4> I couldn't care less.
[15:35] <brandon> or maybe it is trying to read it like a dvd?
[15:35] <brandon> and not data
[15:35] <brandon> i dont know.. but i wanna play WoW
[15:35] <ikonia> PhenomX4: then offer ubuntu support then
[15:35] <chazco> Anyone know if there is an alternative to Kaffeine for DVB in gnome?
[15:35] <PhenomX4> s/offer/don\'t offer/
[15:36] <mathen> PhenomX4, could you please help me again? :)
[15:36] <ikonia> PhenomX4: I mean offer ubuntu supported solutions
[15:36] <PhenomX4> mathen; you probably will want to wait for December's new ATi driver... or use the "radeon" driver.
[15:37] <mathen> How can I use the Radeon driver then?
[15:37] <brandon> anyone plz
[15:37] <ikonia> brandon: what's up
[15:37] <PhenomX4> mathen; open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf as root, edit the "Driver" line for "Device" (you'll see it)
[15:37] <brandon> my dvd reader wont read all files
[15:38] <PhenomX4> you could hit alt+f2: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:38]  * IndyGunFreak laughs because brandon's dvd reader is dyslexic
[15:38] <LjL> PhenomX4, what is wrong with not using a kind of stupid-looking redundant combination of user-switching utilities like "sudo" and "su" together, and instead using "sudo -i" if one really desires to have a root session?
[15:38] <brandon> it reads only some
[15:38] <PhenomX4> I don't give a crap if it's stupid or not. it's fine for a quick job.
[15:38] <IndyGunFreak> brandon: what files does it read?
[15:39] <PhenomX4> there is no security concern to using that for a few minutes.
[15:39] <mathen> PhenomX4, it says Vesa
[15:39] <mathen> Driver "vesa"
[15:39] <brandon> ok here is the deal
[15:39] <PhenomX4> mathen; change it to "radeon" (lowercase) and you should be good.
[15:39] <brandon> on cdrom it reads everything
[15:39] <PhenomX4> I bet your videos look like crap right now, too :S vesa sucks
[15:39] <LjL> PhenomX4, but then again, why not "sudo -i"? it's even shorter by two characters.
[15:40] <brandon> but on dvd it only reads folders .icn and .mpg
[15:40]  * PhenomX4 shoots the dead horse
[15:40] <brandon> .mpq
[15:40]  * PhenomX4 shoots it again
[15:40] <brandon> sorry.. not mpg
[15:40] <wizofoz> hello
[15:40] <brandon> it is the WoW trial install disk
[15:40] <MicrosoftSUX> how do i remote into my ubuntu box from xp, can i install vnc on ubuntu?
[15:40] <brandon> it all on dvd and it says installer.exe is not found
[15:40] <IndyGunFreak> brandon: no clue
[15:40] <PhenomX4> brandon; what type of disc is it? UDF? (use `mount` to check)
[15:40] <brandon> udf is correct
[15:41]  * genii watches the horse to make sure it isn't still twitching
[15:41] <PhenomX4> was it auto-mounted?
[15:41] <PhenomX4> genii; thank you :)
[15:41] <brandon> yes
[15:41] <wizofoz> anyone who can help me with some configuration of GRUB if possible?
[15:41] <LjL> Andycasss, the big (huge) issue with putting the password in the command line itself is that it will not only be shown in plaintext, but also be *logged*. you really don't want a password to be logged.
[15:41] <dgjones> !grub | wizofoz , This may help as a starter for fixing your grub problems
[15:41] <ubotu> wizofoz , This may help as a starter for fixing your grub problems: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:42] <PhenomX4> erm... are there any strange args that it was mounted with? (can you paste me the ONE line from 'mount' which mentions the disc?)
[15:43] <brandon> like the mount options?
[15:43] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak: ...ahh I see now
[15:43] <wizofoz> the thing is that i have a raid 0 with my xp on and i have installed ubuntu on another disk i have under FAT32 so when the pc starts i cannot get an option to go to linux. it just takes me to xp
[15:43] <brandon> ro nosuid nodev
[15:43] <IndyGunFreak> mikebeecham: but if you want the taskbar change, etc, you have to use avant, but it is a bit of a resource hog(avant is)
[15:43] <wizofoz> is there any way to ask grub to look in both the Raid 0 and the Fat32 disk ?
[15:43] <PhenomX4> wizofoz; I have a solution for that :D
[15:44] <mikebeecham> IndyGunFreak: ...thats good info
[15:44] <USERNAME> hi!
[15:44] <ikonia> wizofoz: because your boot loader won't go on the fakeraid partition
[15:44] <USERNAME> can u help me plaes?
[15:44] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | USERNAME
[15:44] <ubotu> USERNAME: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[15:44] <USERNAME> please
[15:44] <USERNAME> ok
[15:44] <USERNAME> can u give me a cd key???
[15:44] <ikonia> USERNAME: no
[15:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[15:44] <musashi1>  i have ssh listening at home on port 443 (actually on my router with dd-wrt) but i can't get putty to remote connect to it. is there something i need to set up with proxies in putty? this works fine if i listen on port 22 but i want to use 443. i can ssh to the router locally on port 443.
[15:44] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[15:44] <ikonia> USERNAME: ubuntu needs no cd key
[15:44] <PriceChild> !piracy | USERNAME
[15:44] <ubotu> USERNAME: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[15:44] <m4n> can anyone tell me how to configure for printing on both sides of paper
[15:45] <wizofoz> is there any way to make it go ? or should i just switch from bios from raid to fat whenver i want to log on ubuntu?
[15:45] <PhenomX4> aaaah where'd the link go?!
[15:45] <USERNAME> :D
[15:45] <USERNAME> ok
[15:45] <ikonia> wizofoz drop fake raid, you'll find it better in the long run
[15:45] <dgjones> USERNAME, you don't need a cd key for Ubuntu, it installs with the need for one
[15:45] <brandon> any ideas?
[15:45] <IndyGunFreak> why do people go to Linux chatrooms when they are trying to learn tobe l33t?
[15:45] <USERNAME> thx
[15:46] <USERNAME> bitches...
[15:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[15:46] <PriceChild> He's behind a yahoo nat...
[15:46] <mathen> PhenomX4, are you sure it's supposed to radeon?
[15:46] <PhenomX4> mathen; yes.
[15:46] <rayb0t> a lot of people dont believe me when i say Linux is free
[15:46] <PhenomX4> did it die on you?
[15:46] <IndyGunFreak> PriceChild: yahoo nat?
[15:46] <rayb0t> its funny
[15:46] <mathen> It did, so I had to go into recovery mode and restore it to vesa
[15:46] <PriceChild> whoops
[15:46] <mathen> But the computer froze as I wrote ctrl+alt+backslash
[15:46] <mathen> To restart X
[15:47] <mathen> Maybe I did something stupid ;)
[15:47] <brandon> the only files it wont show are autostart and installer.exe
[15:47] <PhenomX4> then you're best bet is to install the driver via the restricted drivers manager and install xserver-xgl
[15:47] <PhenomX4> if you want the eye candy
[15:47] <mathen> Yeah I do
[15:47] <PhenomX4> then there ya go
[15:47] <mathen> I've installed apt-get install xserver-xgl
[15:48] <RCOMALTA> to make ubuntu as data server trasfer data from windows to ubutus can be do this
[15:48] <CrashOverride> why does ubuntu need updates constantly -.-
[15:48] <mathen> Or was that wrong of me, PhenomX4?
[15:48] <shanky> hi
[15:48] <PhenomX4> no, it's just not needed with the "radeon" driver, which failed for some odd reason
[15:48] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, because security risks are found.
[15:48] <mathen> but I did it before we started talking... When I had the driver as "vesa"
[15:48] <shanky> I'm trying to compile a module for a tv card
[15:48] <mathen> So xserver-xgl should be install, let me doublecheck
[15:49] <shanky> and when I do the "make" I get this error:
[15:49] <RCOMALTA> phenomx4 does your self have mail server
[15:49] <RCOMALTA> on ubutu
[15:49] <mathen> It says I already has the latest xserver-xgl version
[15:49] <shanky> File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/.config
[15:49] <PhenomX4> CrashOverride; feel free to read what they fix and decide for yourself. also, uninstall what you don't use (carefully!) so you don't get the updates for those + then they aren't running or whatever... so no security/updates hassle.
[15:49] <mathen> Is that correct?
[15:49] <PhenomX4> CrashOverride; or just deal with it ;)
[15:49] <mathen> Any idea PhenomX4
[15:49] <brandon> can someone get on my pc remote and try to figure out why my dvd will not work
[15:50] <CrashOverride> and I'm sick of not being able to use the files in my C:\ drive because it thinks I didn't turn off Windows right.
[15:50] <PhenomX4> mathen; have you tried using the driver from the AMD website because that's a big, big, big, big no-no.
[15:50] <mathen> No I haven't.
[15:50] <PhenomX4> oh good
[15:50] <mathen> I've not changed any driver, except for when you told me to :P
[15:50]  * genii thinks of c:\ and shudders
[15:50] <PhenomX4> which didn't work -_-
[15:50] <mathen> ;(
[15:50] <mathen> I can try again tho
[15:50] <PhenomX4> hit alt+f2: restricted-manager
[15:50] <PhenomX4> that's not necessary.
[15:51] <mathen> What should I write in Run application, phenomX4?
[15:51] <PhenomX4> yeah
[15:51] <brandon> restricted-manager
[15:51] <alduin> So, I've got a weird one.  Sudo has stopped working.  Doing sudo -i (or sudo <any command> prompts for my password and then just hangs indefinitely.  Anyone seen this before?
[15:51] <PriceChild> PhenomX4, also availiable at system > admin > restricted drivers manager
[15:51] <mathen> Ok, then what?
[15:51] <PriceChild> alduin, What did you do before it broke?
[15:52]  * PhenomX4 points to the years trailing him in Linux
[15:52] <mathen> ATI accelerated graphics driver [] * Not in use
[15:52] <PhenomX4> yeah.. I know where it is PriceChild :) thanks tho
[15:52] <PriceChild> PhenomX4, easier directions
[15:52] <PhenomX4> mathen; enable it.
[15:52] <shanky> any idea?
[15:52] <PhenomX4> PriceChild; define "user-friendly"
[15:52] <PhenomX4> I like the terminal.
[15:52] <mathen> seems to work now
[15:52] <alduin> PriceChild: Installed the updates from this morning, but I don't recall any of them being related to sudo.
[15:52] <PriceChild> !offtopic > PhenomX4 (see msg from ubotu)
[15:52] <PriceChild> !worksforme > PhenomX4 (see msg from ubotu)
[15:52] <PhenomX4> PriceChild; I didn't ask for your help. you're off topic.
[15:52] <mathen> Ok it's installed
[15:52] <mathen> I'll restart computer
[15:52] <mathen> Be back inawhile!
[15:52] <PhenomX4> good deal
[15:53] <brandon> this is retarted
[15:53] <PriceChild> alduin, nope they weren't. does gksudo work for you? Can you still open up say... synaptic?
[15:53] <CrashOverride> what's the address to the desktop
[15:53] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, ~/Desktop
[15:53] <Pici> CrashOverride: ~/Desktop/
[15:53] <brandon> hold on
[15:54] <alduin> PriceChild: No, gksudo doesn't work either.  Well, gksudo works, but it just hands of to sudo which then hangs.
[15:54] <alduin> off, even.
[15:54] <PhenomX4> brandon; try copying the stuff as root.. -_-
[15:54] <PriceChild> alduin, what do you mean doesn't work?
[15:54] <Andycasss> When i want to use xinet.d, what should i do?
[15:54] <PhenomX4> I never got to see that line, did you paste it?
[15:54] <Andycasss> Ive installed it, how to convert init.d to xinetd
[15:54] <brandon> 65.26.75.36:0
[15:54] <CrashOverride> kurt@ubuntu:~$ ./Desktop/jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[15:54] <CrashOverride> bash: ./Desktop/jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin: Permission denied
[15:54] <brandon> vncviewer
[15:54] <CrashOverride> wtf?
[15:55] <alduin> PriceChild: Running things via gksudo doesn't work.  gksudo itself works, in that it reads my password and then hands it off to a sudo process.  The sudo process, however, fails.
[15:55] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, you need to either....
[15:55] <PhenomX4> brandon; don't offer remote access dude...
[15:55] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, bash Desktop/jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[15:55] <brandon> ok
[15:55] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, or chmod +x Desktop/jre-6u3-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[15:55] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, then execute it
[15:55] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, HOWEVER
[15:55] <Pici> CrashOverride: the java jre is in the Ubuntu repositories, you shouldnt have to install from a .bin
[15:55] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, i would suggest you isntalled java from the repositories.
[15:55] <CrashOverride> ...
[15:55] <CrashOverride> why doesn;t it say that on the site
[15:55] <Brazilian_Joe> I am having trouble doing a 1 way sync to upload a folder to our remote server. I am trying to mount the remote share with smb on a folder, and use rsync to sync those 2 folders. But I am getting corrupted filenames, accented characters are gettoing garbled.
[15:55] <Pici> CrashOverride: What site?
[15:56] <CrashOverride> the java site
[15:56] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, Please *always* go to ubuntu first when trying to install software.
[15:56] <Pici> CrashOverride: java.sun.com?
[15:56] <Pici> CrashOverride: Because they can't keep track of every operating system.
[15:56] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, you are in a "windows mentality" thinking that it is safe to go galavanting around google, downloading things and installing them.
[15:56] <MystaMax> lol
[15:56] <CrashOverride> lol
[15:56] <CrashOverride> lol Ubuntu can;t get virus's though
[15:57] <Pici> CrashOverride: We're not talking about viruses.  You can still install things that break your setup.
[15:57] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, no... but someone can put "sudo rm -rf /" into the postinst
[15:57] <Brazilian_Joe> there are no iocharset or codepage options on the mounted share on /etc/fstab. copying through 2 file managers preserve the special characters, but rsync breaks them
[15:57] <Pici> CrashOverride: which would delete your entire computer, so don't do it.
[15:58] <PriceChild> CrashOverride, plus, the ubuntu packages are built to work with ubuntu, tweaked slightly that you won't get from random sites.
[15:58] <brandon> phenomx4 when i --- su ls -a still nothing new apears
[15:58] <Andycasss> how do i replace init.d with xinetd?
[15:58] <brandon> i mean sudo
[15:58] <brandon> sudo ls -a
[15:58] <PhenomX4> O_o
[15:58] <CrashOverride> and I had java already installed in firefox, but when I try opening yahoo pagebuilder from geocities to make my website it says I don't have java
[15:58] <trumpetmic> is there a ubuntu utility for administerting samba share permissions?  When I attempt to access my linux shared folder from my windows computer, it asks for a username and password, but I don't see where I can set this in ubuntu
[15:59] <MystaMax> !samba | trumpetmic
[15:59] <ubotu> trumpetmic: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[16:00] <brandon> !dvd
[16:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:00] <brandon> !data-dvd
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about data-dvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <brandon> !dvd-data
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd-data - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <Pici> !msgthebot | brandon
[16:00] <ubotu> brandon: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:01] <MasterShrek> !k3b | brandon
[16:01] <ubotu> brandon: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[16:01] <brandon> i dont want to copy or burn a dvd
[16:01] <brandon> i just wanna read it
[16:01] <brandon> it wont read exe files
[16:01] <Pici> brandon: if you navigate to the cd on the command line and type `ls -l` do the files you expect to be there exist?
[16:02] <MasterShrek> brandon, because exe are windows executables
[16:02] <mathen> It works, many thanks!
[16:02] <CrashOverride> isn't exe for Windows
[16:02] <MasterShrek> yes
[16:02] <brandon> no
[16:02] <MystaMax> uh yea
[16:02] <MasterShrek> yes they are
[16:02] <Pici> brandon: No what? Please address who you are talking to.
[16:02] <brandon> omg
[16:02] <brandon> pici no
[16:02] <brandon> pici the files are not there
[16:03] <MasterShrek> brandon, is the dvd mounted?
[16:03] <shanky> how can I create/get the /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/ dir
[16:03] <brandon> mastershrek yes it is mounted
[16:03] <Pici> brandon: what about from the dvd directory: find . -iname "*.exe"
[16:03] <luckybamboo> does somebody use virtual box as virtualizer?
[16:03] <MasterShrek> shanky, you need to install the kernel modules package, not sure of the name but you could search it in synaptic
[16:03] <MasterShrek> luckybamboo, yes
[16:04] <brandon> pici nothing
[16:04] <brandon> pici i know its on there because it works on my moms win machine
[16:04] <Pici> brandon: Does this work in any other computers properly?
[16:04] <luckybamboo> MasterShrek, is it possible to reset the memory of a started machine?
[16:04] <pio_> o czym gadacie
[16:04] <brandon> pice yes work on win machine
[16:04] <MasterShrek> luckybamboo, what do u mean by "reset the memory"?
[16:05] <foso> hey, i followed these instructions http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2007/11/compiz-fusion-with-xgl-in-gutsy.html and it messed me up really bad, got it working but cant enable compiz,think i may be using the wrong ati driver
[16:05] <brandon> pici its the installation disk for WoW
[16:05] <I_G0dzzzz_I> server illusion.de.eu.swiftirc.net
[16:05] <MasterShrek> brandon, do any files show up where its mounted?
[16:05] <PhenomX4> mathen; back
[16:05] <PhenomX4> did you talk?
[16:05] <MasterShrek> or none at all?
[16:05] <Pici> brandon: can you navigate to other folders on the DVD? do you have problems with any other data dvds?
[16:05] <Andycasss> How do i configure passive ports for my pureftpd?
[16:06] <brandon> mastershrek all but exe
[16:06]  * PhenomX4 can't be assed to scroll up through the chaos :D
[16:06] <luckybamboo> MasterShrek, my created virtual machine got 300 mb ram. but i want dto downset to 256.
[16:06] <kamalan> i have install pci sound card intex but sound is not detected what to do
[16:06] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, probably in the .conf file for it, i konw proftpd is that way
[16:06] <Andycasss> When i set -p range1:range2 argument it doesnt seem to have any effect, it still uses random ports.
[16:06] <kamalan>  i have install pci sound card intex but sound is not detected what to do
[16:06] <brandon> piki i can navigate other folders, and this is the only data dvd i have
[16:06] <MasterShrek> luckybamboo, i dont think so while its running, you would have to shut it down first afaik
[16:06] <oasisfai> hi, all.
[16:06] <Andycasss> MasterShrek: Couldnt find any .conf file, are you sure youre not confusing it with proftpd?
[16:07] <pike_> !sound | kamalan try this
[16:07] <ubotu> kamalan try this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:07] <luckybamboo> MasterShrek, o.k. and after shutting dow the machine? i don't see an option to reset the ram.
[16:07] <luckybamboo> down
[16:07] <MasterShrek> Andycasss, well im just going off of what i know from proftpd, i would assume theres a pureftpd config file somewhere
[16:07] <oasisfai> my compiz enabled correctly but without decorator.
[16:07] <kamalan> i have installed additinal sound card
[16:07] <Andycasss> for debian, there is in /etc/config.d/pure-ftpd.conf... but couldnt find it in ubuntu
[16:08] <dolphin_noel> Hello :)
[16:08] <MasterShrek> luckybamboo, there should be somewhere in there to change how much ram you are giving it, if all else fails, create a new virtual machine using that same virtual disk and allot less memory to it
[16:08] <oasisfai> anyone know how to start the decorator?
[16:08] <MasterShrek> luckybamboo, i dont have vbox on this machine here, so i cant really go an look where to change it
[16:08] <trumpetmic> thanks MystaMax
[16:08] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, emerald-replace
[16:08] <musashi1>  i have ssh listening at home on port 443 (actually on my router with dd-wrt) but i can't get putty to remote connect to it. is there something i need to set up with proxies in putty? this works fine if i listen on port 22 but i want to use 443. i can ssh to the router locally on port 443.  i don't think it likes ssh on port 443. there must be something else i need to configure. i keep reading about setting up http proxy but can't figure o
[16:08] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, emerald --replace
[16:08] <MasterShrek> ignore the first command
[16:08] <luckybamboo> MasterShrek, o.k. i thought i can prevent creating a new one
[16:08] <MystaMax> np
[16:09] <oasisfai> oasisfai, emerald-replace
[16:09] <brandon> i guess this is a problem no one has heard of
[16:09] <sipior> musashi1: 443 is reserved for https, yes?
[16:09] <MasterShrek> musashi1, is your router forwarding port 443 to your ssh server?
[16:09] <luckybamboo> ah found it...
[16:09] <oasisfai> I tried before, but failed ->MasterShrek
[16:09] <brandon> does anyone have the trial dvd install of WoW?
[16:09] <musashi1> yes, but it supposed to work. i've read lots of how tos on this
[16:09] <foso> i switched to xgl and it messed up my graphics, how do i revert to whatever i had before?
[16:09] <ubuntulover12345> is there a log that tracks when passwords are changed and by which usid?
[16:10] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, the fact that it failed helps me in no way when trying to address the problem
[16:10] <musashi1> sipior:  yes, but it supposed to work. i've read lots of how tos on this
[16:10] <MasterShrek> musashi1, use a different port, i always use 22987 cuz my isp blocks 22
[16:10] <oasisfai> I was using xubuntu. the decorator can't enable with emerald or gnome-decorator.
[16:10] <musashi1> MasterShrek: my router is my ssh server (dd-wrt) but yes 443 is the port it's listening on
[16:10] <oasisfai> what's the problem.
[16:10] <oasisfai> ?
[16:10] <Optyx> foso: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl shouold help you
[16:11] <shanky> I have already installed linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[16:11] <musashi1> MasterShrek: i'd like to use 443 to hide the traffic. most other ports are blocked anyway at work
[16:11] <shanky> but I stil don't have  /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/ dir
[16:11] <ubuntulover12345> is there a log of when people change their passwords? Had a security compromise recently, and want to narrow the time
[16:11] <MasterShrek> shanky, what do u need that dir for?
[16:11] <foso> Optyx: i did that last night, it says its not installed, a smarter friend said he thinks im using the wrong drivers now
[16:12] <MasterShrek> ubuntulover12345, somewhere in /var/log i would assume, no idea which log to look at though
[16:12] <foso> it says its not installed anymore, i think it took it out last night
[16:12] <shanky> MasterShrek: is needed by a tv card driver, to compile a new module
[16:12] <kamalan> does i need to install any driver software for pci sound card
[16:12] <Optyx> foso: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:12] <kamalan>  does i need to install any driver software for pci sound card
[16:12] <sipior> musashi1: if you're just trying to get around the ssh spam, an aggressive hosts.deny/hosts.allow will allow you a great deal of flexibility without troubling with non-standard ports
[16:12] <MasterShrek> shanky, install your kernel headers
[16:12] <shanky> MasterShrek: thanks
[16:12] <oasisfai> all effect is working correctly, just no decorator.
[16:13] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, are you getting an error when you try to run emerald --replace  ?
[16:13] <jurgentje> Hi all... when trying to install the libxine1-ffmpeg file, I get a conflict saying "libxine1 < 1.1.5" ... but it's version 1.1.7 ... does this mean I can't play MP3-files? (since I'd need those plugins)
[16:13] <dopplerdeffect> Does anybody know which package contains the gd header files?
[16:14] <oasisfai> when I use emerald -replace, the console prompt something like gdk error.
[16:14] <musashi1> sipior: not the ssh spam, just wanting to get the router running dd-wrt to be the ssh sever. very low power system. i am currently useing ssh on my ubuntu box with denyhosts but not as low power (or as cool) as doing it on the router
[16:14] <foso> Optyx: do i want to use framebuffer device interface?
[16:14] <sipior> oasisfai: i had a problem where, upon upgrade to gutsy, compiz forgot about my choice of window theme; perhaps you can simply re-select the theme?
[16:14] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, --replace  (with two hyphens?)
[16:14] <oasisfai> how to re-select the theme?
[16:14] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, also, pastebin the error, it will make debugging it much easier
[16:15] <Optyx> foso: it might not hurt to enable it
[16:15] <oasisfai> actually, I was ugraded gusty from feisty.
[16:15] <musashi1> sipior: here is the short how to --> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tunnel_all_traffic_over_ssh_using_remote_windows_machine_and_Putty but it isn't working.
[16:15] <Optyx> foso: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[16:15] <oasisfai> ok.
[16:15] <oasisfai> wait a minute.
[16:15] <ralth> When I installed 7.10, sda2 was mounted correctly automatically.  Now, however, it has stopped working.  sda1 still mounts fine.  fstab is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46343/  Any ideas?
[16:15] <MasterShrek> no waiting, i need it now
[16:15] <MasterShrek> !
[16:15] <ts_> Using DD, how would I go about taking an image from one USB stick, and then output it to another concurrently, as in, as it's taking the image from one usb stick - the data then goes onto the other usb stick. Instead of having to read the whole image to dump it on the disk, then having to put it onto the next one after it completes? Thanks
[16:15] <foso> optyx: ati radeon mobility 9000igp
[16:15] <MasterShrek> =P
[16:16] <sipior> musashi1: fair enough. and you say that you can't connect to the router from the general internet, but it works at home?
[16:16] <lostblur> Hi guys. hopefully a common and quick fix here: all of a sudden my Samba is unable to display contents of NAS or any other pc on network. i am able to access them by their individual IPs, but when i try to double click a workgroup it says contents cannot be displayed. i did a reinstall of samba-common and restarted to no avail.. little help?
[16:16] <MasterShrek> ts_, dd if=/dev/xxxx of=/dev/xxxx  (replacing xxxx with your device names, if is input and of is output)
[16:16] <tulio> hello. how can i reset evolution?
[16:16] <Optyx> foso: you have to use the xorg drivers the ati binaries suck they don't support the 9000igp I have that card in my laptop
[16:16] <musashi1> sipior: right. i can locally ssh to the router so i know it's working but can remotely ssh
[16:16] <Optyx> foso: it sucks
[16:17] <sipior> musashi1: does your isp block inbound 443?
[16:17] <ts_> MasterShrek:  *****y brilliant. thanks
[16:17] <foso> that sounds like what my buddy said last night
[16:17] <musashi1> sipior: crap, didn't think of that. how would i know?
[16:17] <ChrisMir> Hi, I'm installing ubuntu-server 7.10 on my old debian box, with IDE drives. For some reason the installer is mapping the drives to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb (instead of hda/hdb). This eventually causes Grub install to fail. Any pointers?
[16:17] <foso> optyx: what can i do to make it work? i was running compiz with all sorts of things working great
[16:17] <PhenomX4> tulio; delete ~/.evolution
[16:17] <mathen> How do I change language setup for my keyboard_ :P
[16:17] <foso> optyx: should i close the xserver configuration program?
[16:18] <tulio> PhenomX4: is done. no effect.
[16:18] <mathen> It's went into english insted of swedish
[16:18] <sipior> musashi1: try it on another port. if it works, it means someone is probably dropping the traffic :) you can try calling them as well, but they be more or less helpful, depending on your isp
[16:18] <lostblur> System > Administration > Language support
[16:18] <mathen> I tried that, but it said Swedish
[16:18] <MasterShrek> Chris7mas, use sd0, sd1 etc instead of hd0, hd1 etc
[16:18] <PhenomX4> tulio; check in ~/.gnome2 for related settings, then.
[16:18] <Optyx> Foso: no finish it and use the fbdev driver
[16:18] <ChrisMir> MasterShrek: Even for IDE drives (no sata-drives here)
[16:18] <ChrisMir> ?
[16:18] <MasterShrek> ChrisMir, i believe so
[16:19] <foso> optyx: do i want the framebuffer thing?
[16:19] <MasterShrek> sorry about the nick mixup
[16:19] <MasterShrek> =P
[16:19] <Optyx> foso: Its mainly a fluke when you get compiz to work on the 9000igp
[16:19] <Optyx> foso: yes
[16:19] <magic_ninja> has anyone gotten the new steam error with the update
[16:19] <musashi1> sipior: i only have a few open ports at work. port 80 would be similar right? inbound blocking and all. is there a standard port that probably wouldn't be blocked inbound?
[16:19] <oasisfai> the console prompt with: compiz(core) warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[16:19] <ChrisMir> I believed sda was for scsi and sata drives. IDE used hda mapping
[16:19] <MasterShrek> musashi1, 21 maybe (its ftp)
[16:19] <mathen> Does anyone know how to change language settings for my keyboard? System Admin language Support doesn't help me
[16:19] <ralth> When I installed 7.10, sda2 was mounted correctly automatically.  Now, however, it has stopped working.  sda1 still mounts fine.  fstab is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46343/  Any ideas?
[16:20] <oasisfai> compiz(core): Couldn't bind redirected window 0x3200017 to texture.
[16:20] <musashi1> MasterShrek: okay, let me set that up and try. thanks
[16:20] <tulio> PhenomX4: ok. no effect, a part of them still present
[16:20] <oasisfai> there are two warning message when I start compiz --replace.
[16:20] <ralth> mathen: have you tried system>>preferences>>keyboard?
[16:20] <MasterShrek> oasisfai, do you have emerald installed? also install compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:20] <mathen> Foudn it
[16:20] <PhenomX4> tulio; I don't know. I don't use Evolution but those are the obvious places to check :(
[16:20] <mathen> Thanks!
[16:21] <sipior> musashi1: or 23, since you shouldn't be running telnet anyway :-)
[16:21] <tulio> damn
[16:21] <MasterShrek> ralth, try using /dev/sda2 instead of the uuid
[16:21] <foso> optyx, got through that, how do i use the other thing you were talking about?
[16:22] <musashi1> MasterShrek, sipior ooh, just a though. i'm remotely managing the router at the moment via an ssh connection to the ubuntu box. i bet changing anything will reboot the router and i'll lose my connections. hopefully it will come back up but i'll lose this irc connection too.
[16:22] <Kanashimi> Hello there. I'm running the latest Ubuntu Server edition, recently I did a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and apt installed a replacement for php5-cli, php5-mysql, libapache2-mod-php5, php5-common, php5    5.2.3-1ubuntu6 versions -> 5.2.3-1ubuntu6.1     Now php_mod doesn't work on the server at all where as before it was working fine. Is this a common problem?
[16:22] <foso> optyx, the latest message is the composite extension is not available when i try to enable effects
[16:23] <MasterShrek> musashi1, well good luck, hopefully see u on the other side ;)
[16:23] <musashi1> MasterShrek: yeah :) thanks
[16:23] <oasisfai> I installed emerald before, now I was removed emerald and installed compiz-gnome.
[16:23] <Optyx> foso:you mean fbdev just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the device section driver to fbdev
[16:23] <musashi1> MasterShrek: for the help that is
[16:23] <MasterShrek> :)
[16:23] <lostblur> suddenly my Samba is unable to display contents of my workgroup. i am able to access them by their individual IPs, but when i try to double click a workgroup it says contents cannot be displayed. i did a reinstall of samba-common and restarted to no avail.. please advise
[16:24] <oasisfai> because I enable compiz with emerald was failed.
[16:24] <oasisfai> is it gnome-decorator can instead emerald in xubuntu (gusty)?
[16:24] <ralth> MasterShrek: can I remount using fstab without restarting?
[16:24] <cyrano> Hi. I've used VMWare Worksation 6.0 to with an XP guest in an Ubuntu Gutsy Host. Purpose is syncing my Windows Mobile. First time i booted i got a message vmware had to disconnect usb from the host (something like that, don't remeber exactly) to be able to connect my windows mobile to the guest. Now neither my host nor guest can find the device. Basically i think I have to remount USB in the...
[16:24] <cyrano> ...host (Ubuntu) in some way, but don't really know this. My USB mouse still works in these ports. Please help
[16:25] <MasterShrek> ralth, yes, as long as it isnt your root partition or your swap (even swap might work)
[16:25] <ralth> MasterShrek: what's the command for that?
[16:25] <Kanashimi> That is, instead of interpreting the php files it's just trying to send the php files as plaintext.
[16:25] <MasterShrek> ralth, sudo mount /dev/sda2
[16:25] <oasisfai> in gusty, there was no theme in emerald.
[16:25] <foso> optyx, sorry im a noob, i learned how to sudo and change stuff in there but i cant recall how
[16:26] <oasisfai> I remember there are 10 more theme selection in feisy.
[16:26] <magnetron> !enter > oasisfai
[16:27] <pike_> cyrano: you need to umount /dev/sda1 or whatever it sounds like ubuntu automounted the device
[16:27] <jurgentje> Hi all... when trying to install the libxine1-ffmpeg file, I get a conflict saying "libxine1 < 1.1.5" ... but it's version 1.1.7 ... does this mean I can't play MP3-files? (since I'd need those plugins)
[16:27] <Huhn23> I was about to try some data recovery when I thought, hey let's do that with ubuntu, sure will work better. now I still run 6.06 and I was wondering which programm I could use to recover lost data. the synaptic packet manager offered alot, which included mando
[16:28] <Huhn23> anyone know how good this is
[16:28] <pike_> !recover | Huhn23
[16:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:28] <pike_> man, i just put that in as a request yesterday
[16:28] <Huhn23> pike_:  thanks
[16:28] <ralth> MasterShrek: it seems that the problem might have been that windows was not shut down correctly ... let me try booting into windows and doing a clean shutdown.  brb.  Thanks for your help!
[16:28] <pike_> Huhn23: one sec
[16:28] <MasterShrek> yup
[16:28] <MasterShrek> Jurgeni, try reinstalling libxine1 maybe?
[16:28] <pike_> Huhn23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[16:29] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | Huhn23
[16:29] <cyrano> pike_: Could you please give me a command to run? How do i do that?
[16:29] <ubotu> huhn23: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB
[16:29] <Huhn23> pike_:  thanks I'll give it a try. hope this works with external hdd
[16:30] <pike_> cyrano: type 'mount' in your terminal and tell me if you see anything under /media
[16:30] <pike_> Huhn23: should
[16:30] <FrederickAU> How can I mount my dvd
[16:30] <jurgentje> mastershrek: well... how do I do that without uninstalling it? (unstalling it actually removes the whole kubuntu-desktop here
[16:30] <Huhn23> erUSUL:  Version 6.6-1  gutsy...well I run dapper drake 6.06, thanks
[16:30] <FrederickAU> when I put in cd drive it just idles
[16:31] <MasterShrek> jurgentje, kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package anyways, no problems removing it, just remove it and then reinstall kubuntu-desktop (it wont be as big of a task as you think) :)
[16:31] <erUSUL> !info testdisk dapper | Huhn23
[16:31] <ubotu> huhn23: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.1-1 (dapper), package size 386 kB, installed size 1124 kB
[16:31] <soundray> FrederickAU: you need a DVD drive to mount a DVD
[16:31] <MasterShrek> jurgentje, remove libxine1 that is, not kubuntu-desktop explicitly
[16:31] <MasterShrek> lol soundray
[16:31] <CrashOverride> lol
[16:31] <FrederickAU> soundray: yeah of course,
[16:31] <Huhn23> lol
[16:31] <CrashOverride> lol
[16:31] <cyrano> Pike_: mount *enter* and find media in the list or moun /*tab* and see if something appears
[16:32] <soundray> MasterShrek: what, he said CD drive!
[16:32] <MasterShrek> FrederickAU, do you konw the device name of your drive? probable /dev/hdc
[16:32] <MasterShrek> =P
[16:32] <FrederickAU> what type do i use cd9660?
[16:32] <devilsadvocate> jurgentje, you dont need the kubuntu-desktop package
[16:32] <soundray> FrederickAU: have you enabled automounting in System-Preferences-Removable drives?
[16:32] <MasterShrek> FrederickAU, shouldnt need a type
[16:32] <magnetron> FrederickAU: DVD drives conveyor belts easily wears out
[16:32] <attickid> anyone knows how to get a device name in order to use "xinput" command?
[16:33] <jurgentje> devilsadvocate: well... that's how I have all the apt-update stuff etc... in KDE :p
[16:33] <FrederickAU> hey it should automount
[16:33] <FrederickAU> it muonts normal cd's
[16:33] <FrederickAU> not dvd's though
[16:33] <MasterShrek> !dvd
[16:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:33] <soundray> FrederickAU: have you enabled automounting in System-Preferences-Removable drives?
[16:33] <MasterShrek> if its a video dvd
[16:33] <attickid> anyone knows how to get a device name in order to use "xinput" command?
[16:33] <FrederickAU> it's not a video just data
[16:33] <magic_ninja> man since this steam update steam crashes on startup
[16:33] <herbo> hello folks
[16:33] <magic_ninja> i think it might be the community feature but i can't get that far
[16:34] <MasterShrek> magic_ninja, update wine maybe?
[16:34] <devilsadvocate> jurgentje, not really. its needed only when first installing. an aptitude uprade will upgrade all install packages, not just kubunut-desktop
[16:34] <herbo> fglrxinfo using MESA GLX indirect
[16:34] <magic_ninja> MasterShrek: wine is the latest
[16:34] <Whitor> How can I read the messages that scroll by starting up after logging in?
[16:34] <herbo> Any idea for HOWTO recognize my ATI X1600 ?
[16:34] <MasterShrek> devilsadvocate, but if something else becomes included with kubuntu-desktop (i dont know how often or if this ever happens) it wont be auto-installed
[16:34] <magnetron> !wine | MasterShrek
[16:34] <ubotu> MasterShrek: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[16:35] <MasterShrek> magnetron, i know about wine
[16:35] <cyrano> pike_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46344/
[16:35] <brandon> magic_ninja you wouldnt happen to have WoW would you?
[16:35] <soundray> Whitor: some of them go to /var/log/syslog, some you can see with the dmesg. Not all of them are logged, though.
[16:35] <Whitor> soundray: ok, thanks
[16:35] <jurgentje> okay... did it... keeps installing version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 ... causing libxine1-ffmpeg to break. :p
[16:35] <FrederickAU> any reason why dvd's don't work but cd's do
[16:35] <soundray> Whitor: *the command dmesg
[16:35] <FrederickAU> It used to work on dapper fine
[16:35] <devilsadvocate> MasterShrek, such changes probably will not take place in the same release. Major changes such as that are usually reserved for the next version
[16:35] <herbo> Any idea ?
[16:35] <MasterShrek> i spose devilsadvocate
[16:35] <brandon> im having dvd probs aswell
[16:35] <jurgentje> okay... did it... keeps installing version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 ... causing libxine1-ffmpeg to break. Can't install the ffmpeg lib...
[16:36] <soundray> FrederickAU: run tail -f /var/log/syslog , then insert the DVD and see if any errors are logged?
[16:36] <magnetron> MasterShrek: are you using the winehq repo? instructions on the link i gave you
[16:36] <carnelain> can anyone help me install the drivers for my nvidia geforce go 7300 on ubuntu 7.10
[16:36] <MasterShrek> magnetron, no, im not even using ubuntu, i didnt need help btw
[16:36] <magic_ninja> brandon: no sorry man
[16:36] <MasterShrek> carnelain, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:36] <Whitor> I'm trying to get HDAPS working... anyone else have this working ?
[16:37] <MasterShrek> carnelain, ubuntu-restricted-drivers   i mean
[16:37] <brandon> carnelain: system/admin/restricketed drivers ---> enable
[16:37] <carnelain> yeah i tried that but i didn work
[16:37] <attickid> anyone knows how to get a device name in order to use "xinput" command?
[16:37] <brandon> what did it say?
[16:37] <MasterShrek> attickid, what kind of device?
[16:37] <magic_ninja> the error is a main exception with attempted to read from virtual address 68 without appropriate access rights
[16:37] <jurgentje> Anyone understand this? Conflict: libxine-extracodecs < 1.1.3-1 ... and I don't have libxine-extracodecs installed :p
[16:38] <Gatestone> I removed Compiz and lost my WM in the process. I can get "metacity --replace" but where do I make that permanent? Now id I restart I am again without a WM?
[16:38] <MasterShrek> jurgentje, well install it
[16:38] <ptn107> proftpd question: Starting/stopping proftpd is fine but I still get the error "IPv6 getaddrinfo 'phil-desktop' error: No address associated with hostname"  I think its related to /etc/hosts but no matter what I tinker with I can't get the error to go away on ftp restarts
[16:38] <MasterShrek> Gatestone, system > preferences > session
[16:38] <jurgentje> I can't... because it says: required: libxine < 1.1.5 (and it's 1.1.7)
[16:38] <cyrano> pike_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46344/
[16:39] <MasterShrek> ptn107, ive seen that error before, google it for a quick fix
[16:39] <MasterShrek> (thats what i did_
[16:39] <CrashOverride> when I boot Ubuntu it says 'cannot allocate recource region' of something, what's this supposed to mean
[16:39] <carnelain> I need to reboot to give you the exact error
[16:39] <carnelain> be right back
[16:39] <attickid> MasterShrek: An usb tablet
[16:39] <ptn107> MasterShrek: ive followed several tutorials on google each suggests to change something in /etc/hosts but no fixes are working for me
[16:40] <jurgentje> MasterShrek: could I pm you with my question?
[16:40] <soundray> CrashOverride: if everything is working, you can ignore that message.
[16:40] <MasterShrek> attickid, plug it in and type dmesg, if that doesnt give you the answer lsusb might
[16:40] <pike_> cyrano: hmm not sure why it is saying that then. it isnt mounted that i can see unless its a wierd node name
[16:40] <CrashOverride> well what does it mean
[16:40] <brandon> carnelain ok
[16:40] <MasterShrek> jurgentje, sure, if ur nick is registered, else i wont get the message
[16:40] <attickid> MasterShrek: ok,thank u
[16:40] <MasterShrek> CrashOverride, do you have a swap partition?
[16:40] <soundray> CrashOverride: it's got something to do with setting up PCI devices.
[16:41] <CrashOverride> I'm dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu
[16:41] <paulc> hello all
[16:41] <MasterShrek> hi paulc
[16:41] <bazhang> hi paulc
[16:41] <MasterShrek> paulc...sounds like policy, clever!
[16:41] <erUSUL> CrashOverride: it usually means something about the RAM memory mappings (io regions for pci dma etc)
[16:41] <MasterShrek> =P
[16:41] <cyrano> pike_: hm... is there a way to scan my usb ports for devices then...?
[16:41] <paulc> hehe
[16:41] <cleaton> i would need some help to set up gimmie to work with my gmail account and friendster/facebook
[16:41] <CrashOverride> If I get a 2 way USB cable and plug it into my computer and the other end into my playstation 2 usb port, can I look at the files inside it
[16:41] <erUSUL> cyrano: lsusb
[16:42] <paulc> damn me for having a surname beginning with c
[16:42] <soundray> CrashOverride: I guess the best way to get a definite answer is to find the part of the kernel source that generates the message and read it.
[16:42] <brandon> CrashOverride: try it
[16:42] <CrashOverride> k lol
[16:42] <FrederickAU> soundray: no nothing is added to the log. You know the led that flashes on and off it just stays on when i put a dvd disc in
[16:42] <MasterShrek> !medibuntu | jurgentje
[16:42] <ubotu> jurgentje: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:43] <paulc> cyrano: you could try 'dmesg' and look for recently connected devices
[16:43] <kane77> is there any channel for dia (the diagram editor)?
[16:43] <soundray> CrashOverride: no, a USB port acts either as host or as gadget
[16:43] <CrashOverride> ...
[16:43] <genii> CrashOverride: sudo modprobe usbnet
[16:43] <carnelain> well it works now, thanks for you patients
[16:43] <soundray> CrashOverride: to connect to USB host ports, you need a USB network cable
[16:44] <carnelain> Can't figure out what I did different though
[16:44] <CrashOverride> a playstation 2 has 2 USB plugs on it
[16:44] <brandon> Carnelain: i think i had the same prob.. simple reboot did the trick
[16:44] <MasterShrek> carnelain, happens to me all the time =P
[16:44] <CrashOverride> that you can plug ubn plugs into
[16:44] <soundray> FrederickAU: how are you getting on?
[16:44] <CrashOverride> * usb
[16:44] <RCOMALTA> hi
[16:44] <carnelain> yeah I did the reboot the first time and it gave an error
[16:44] <RCOMALTA> my linux not find network cards
[16:44] <RCOMALTA> can some help
[16:44] <carnelain> so I uninstalled it and went googling
[16:45] <ptn107> MasterShrek: oh i think i got it, i can't just add to the /etc/hosts file, i need to use ipv6 format or something
[16:45] <genii> CrashOverride: I use a Belkin "Easy Transfer Cable", works fine from the linux side. as for what to do on your PS2, beats me
[16:45] <MasterShrek> RCOMALTA, ifconfig -a doesnt give you anything except lo ?
[16:45] <soundray> CrashOverride: are they A or B connectors?
[16:45] <CrashOverride> O.o
[16:45] <carnelain> installed it just now and it worked
[16:45] <FrederickAU> soundray: yeah it's mystery problem. theres no hdc in my /dev file either I dunno what the cdrom was being mounted as, but yeah cd rom works fine but dvd nope
[16:45] <CrashOverride> I'll get a picture on google
[16:45] <RCOMALTA> where i need to do ifconfig
[16:45] <paulc> ROOMALTA: in a terminal
[16:45] <RCOMALTA> ok
[16:45] <CrashOverride> type A
[16:46] <soundray> FrederickAU: insert a CD-ROM, wait for it to mount, then enter the "mount" command to see the device name. For DVDs it should be the same.
[16:46] <cyrano> Here is my output of lsusb and dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46346/
[16:46] <cyrano> This is all done while my windows mobile device is connected... Why doesnt it show up?
[16:46] <cyrano> thanks for helping out
[16:47] <RCOMALTA> yes
[16:47] <RCOMALTA> but not my
[16:47] <CrashOverride> I wonder if someone could get linux installed on a digital alarm clock
[16:47] <RCOMALTA> cards
[16:48] <linux_> whois ampex
[16:48] <soundray> CrashOverride: don't try to connect USB-A sockets with each other. You need a special host-to-host cable for that. I don't think PS will support that.
[16:48] <MasterShrek> CrashOverride, ever seen the truenuff mac spoof ads? they poke fun at windows, mac and linux its quite humorous
[16:48] <brandon> crash... you want to connect to your ps2 correct?
[16:48] <CrashOverride> ya
[16:48] <joris_> Can somebody help me with a quick question?
[16:48] <MasterShrek> !ask
[16:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:48] <brandon> read this maybe it will help http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/lookup+1/DAA9512ECA7A4C6FCA256D9B005D61AE
[16:48] <drew_chicago> hi anyone know how I can set new windows to open in the center of the screen? now they open in top left
[16:48] <CrashOverride> I have this cable that's type A on one end and B on the other
[16:49] <CrashOverride> B is the more square one right
[16:49] <joris_> I have a pop up window and it is off screen how do i resize?
[16:49] <ampex_> CrashOverride: correct
[16:49] <cyrano> Here is my output of lsusb and dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46346/
[16:49] <cyrano> This is all done while my windows mobile device is connected... Why doesnt it show up?
[16:49] <soundray> CrashOverride: yes
[16:49] <cyrano> thanks for helping out
[16:49] <MasterShrek> CrashOverride, its not actuall a square, it has 2 slanted corners =P
[16:49] <ampex_> "more square" :)
[16:49] <brandon> it seams you cannot connect via usb through my reasearch
[16:50] <ampex_> brandon: connect what via usb?
[16:50] <CrashOverride> Well what if I put it on my modem with this usb cable
[16:50] <ampex_> CrashOverride: what is "it" and what type of modem?
[16:50] <soundray> cyrano: it's a timing problem. Try connecting the device repeatedly until you don't get the read/64 error.
[16:50] <brandon> CrashOverride: usb port is for PS2 peripherals only.... try ethernet connect
[16:50] <MasterShrek> cyrano, i dont know how well windows mobile interacts with linux
[16:50] <magic_ninja> is there a way to tell what updates the last auto-update installed?
[16:51] <gradin> ha ha CrashOverride nice
[16:51] <CrashOverride> It's a westell 6100
[16:51] <ampex_> CrashOverride: why do you want to plug a DSL modem into a PS2? and how does this relate to ubunty?
[16:51] <soundray> MasterShrek: it's a USB hardware problem. cyrano doesn't even get to the stage where this becomes an issue
[16:51] <ampex_> ubuntu rather
[16:51] <CrashOverride> idk
[16:51] <CrashOverride> I could put the modem on my ubuntu at the same time
[16:51] <cleaton> how to set up gimmie to work with friendster and facebook?
[16:52] <CrashOverride> I have an extra ethernat cable if that helps
[16:52] <FrederickAU> soundray: i tried mounting it it doesn't start spinning and just says no medium found
[16:52] <ampex_> CrashOverride: get a router
[16:53] <ampex_> CrashOverride: or if your PC has two network interfaces you can use it as a router
[16:53] <linux_> CrashOverrid are you trying to play your playstation online?
[16:53] <soundray> FrederickAU: with a CD-ROM?
[16:53] <CrashOverride> no there's only one ethernet plug -.-
[16:53] <linux_> ok
[16:53] <FrederickAU> soundray: dvd, i got the drive /dev/scd0 from the mount with cd
[16:53] <brandon> CrashOverride: http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/lookup+1/DAA9512ECA7A4C6FCA256D9B005D61AE
[16:53] <ampex_> CrashOverride: then your only choice is to A. get a router or B. buy another network card for your PC and learn how to setup ubuntu as a router
[16:53] <ampex_> CrashOverride: in most cases A. is simpler
[16:54] <soundray> FrederickAU: did you try the tail command that I suggested?
[16:54] <FrederickAU> soundray: yes tried that too, didn't produce any output when iput cd in
[16:54] <soundray> FrederickAU: DVD!
[16:54] <CrashOverride> a router would just give the ps2 internet
[16:54] <FrederickAU> soundray: lol
[16:54] <CrashOverride> lol
[16:54] <FrederickAU> soundray: yeh dvd
[16:54] <cyrano> soundray: how shall i see if i get a read error? with dmesg? And just connect/unconnect a lot of times? I've allready done that. And it all started with VMWare interfaring with my USB device... is there anyway to undo what VMWare may have done?
[16:54] <FrederickAU> soundray: they look the same :(
[16:55] <yakov> hello
[16:55] <ampex_> CrashOverride: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:55] <brandon> CrashOverride did you read that?
[16:55] <linux_> CrashOverrid what are you trying to do?
[16:55] <RCOMALTA> i need to dawnload adobe flash player tar.gz is ok
[16:55] <CrashOverride> I'm trying to hack my ps2
[16:55] <CrashOverride> -.-
[16:55] <CrashOverride> and look at the files on it
[16:55] <linux_> whats that have to do with ubuntu?
[16:55] <LjL> RCOMALTA: no
[16:55] <soundray> cyrano: the read/64 errors are in dmesg output, but should be logged to /var/log/syslog as well
[16:55] <LjL> !flash > RCOMALTA    (RCOMALTA, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:56] <ampex_> CrashOverride: I don't believe that is possible via the USB port and it also has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:56] <bazhang> CrashOverride: not really appropriate for here then
[16:56] <Pici> CrashOverride: Is it running Ubuntu currently?
[16:56] <zero-9376> can grub boot an xp install on a software raid 0?
[16:56] <Andycasss> whats the command to rename?
[16:56] <cyrano> soundray: and you are right its a hardware problem. I allways used to see the windows mobile device as a wired network in nm-applet
[16:56] <CrashOverride> my computer is running ubuntu right ya
[16:56] <Pici> Andycasss: mv
[16:56] <LjL> !cli > Andycasss    (Andycasss, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:56] <linux_> CrashOverrid look it up on google or something not ubuntu
[16:56] <brandon> CrashOverride: did you read the link i gave you.  it should help you considerably
[16:56] <Pici> !offtopic | CrashOverride
[16:56] <ubotu> CrashOverride: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:56] <CrashOverride> I'm reading it
[16:56] <ampex_> zero-9376: it may be possible with dm-raid, what type of software RAID is Windows using?
[16:56] <magic_ninja> !pastebin
[16:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:56] <Andycasss> Pici: thank you
[16:56] <linux_> CrashOverrid but its not a question relating to ubuntu
[16:56] <robert_> where is demangle(1) ?
[16:57] <soundray> cyrano: I doubt that vmware has done it to your device. Do try a reset on it, though
[16:57] <Pici> robert_: what is demangle?
[16:57] <zero-9376> ampex_: im not really sure im trying to help this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3866522#post3866522
[16:57] <LjL> robert_: kmtrace
[16:57] <LjL> !find demangle > robert_
[16:57] <Pici> LjL: thanks :)
[16:57] <robert_> Pici, it demangles c++ symbols ?
[16:57] <Pici> robert_: see LjL's response
[16:58] <magic_ninja> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46347/
[16:58] <CrashOverride> well maybe I could do it with my Wii instead
[16:58] <brandon> does anyone have WoW?
[16:58] <cyrano> soundray: I'm guessing vmware did this to my USB port...? I've tried a reset and reconnecting doent help. I still get read errors.
[16:58] <LjL> robert_, possibly. it's certainly part of a package that aids debugging, and as it's a KDE package, what you said is likely. no manpage?
[16:59] <ampex_> zero-9376: we would need to know more about his hardware
[16:59] <soundray> cyrano: are you running Ubuntu as a vmware guest?
[16:59] <ampex_> zero-9376: what type of chipset he is using for his RAID
[16:59] <robert_> LjL, http://h30097.www3.hp.com/cplus/demangle_1.htm
[16:59] <cyrano> no. host
[16:59] <ampex_> zero-9376: if the ubuntu installer doesn't see the software RAID array or sees it as two disks, it probably wouldn't have installed grub to it. He may just have to change his boot order to get the second drive to boot before the RAID array.
[17:00] <zero-9376> ampex_: yeah i thought as much i will post again and ask him/her to provide more information
[17:00] <FrederickAU> soundray: I didn't even know I had a scsi device. On freeBSD I usr burncd rather than cdrecord meaning it's not scsi :S
[17:00] <cyrano> soundray: Ubuntu is host. XP is guest. But right now it won't even connect to host
[17:00] <yakov> how can i check that my swap partition was recognized on boot?
[17:00] <LjL> yakov, type "free", if there's any swap being used...
[17:00] <soundray> FrederickAU: I think SATA optical drives appear as /dev/scdX
[17:00] <sipior> robert_: is c++filt what you're looking for?
[17:00] <robert_> probably
[17:01] <mathen> How do you get out of the X, it's crashed. The entire screen is black
[17:01] <yakov> LjL, thx! i see a Swap entry
[17:01] <FrederickAU> soundray: could it be a driver issue
[17:01] <mumbles_> ctl alt backspace
[17:01] <zero-9376> ampex_: that is what i suspected, he has not clarified whether ubuntu would boot once he changed the order in the bios but i wanted to know whether grub would have seen the windows install (assuming its software only)
[17:01] <FrederickAU> soundray: should I see if It start spinning in bios?
[17:01] <soundray> FrederickAU: no, the driver doesn't even get a chance
[17:01] <n2diy_> I'm setting up a LAN here at home, with the purpose of using the second box as a backup to this one. We'll call the to boxes lr and br. Both boxes can ping each other, and VNC into each other. Br can ssh into lr, but lr can't ssh into br. When lr tries to ssh into br, it gets a permission denied, port 22 error. Firestarter is running on both boxes, and configured to allow connections on port 22. What am I missing here?
[17:01] <soundray>  FrederickAU: how do you mean "start spinning"?
[17:02] <cool> i can't delete the file
[17:02] <FrederickAU> soundray: u can tell when it's working by the sound of it sinning
[17:02] <FrederickAU> soundray: I use it as a signal for whether it's working, because sometimes it doesn't work
[17:02] <Luke> I'm running gutsy and I still get prompted for a keyring password to use networkmanager after login. It does not provide the checkbox to disable this. Any suggestions?
[17:02] <sipior> n2diy_: is there an ssh daemon listening on both machines?
[17:02] <zero-9376> ampex_: i dont know how windows handles the MBR/boot when its in raid, does it still install to the MBR of the disk like normal?
[17:02] <zero-9376> i guess that depends on the hardware
[17:03] <mathen> How do I change, "Write you password to make Administrator ...."
[17:03] <mathen> How do I remove that?
[17:03] <n2diy_> sipior: not sure, how would I check that?
[17:03] <Niculittu> hello someone can help me with gdesklet
[17:03] <Niculittu> ?
[17:03] <sipior> n2diy_: ps aux | grep sshd
[17:03] <FrederickAU> soundray: any physical reason why dvd doesn't work but the cd does
[17:03] <neko_> hi
[17:04] <mathen> Are there any configuration for X in terminal?
[17:04] <paulc> hi neko
[17:04] <Niculittu> can someone help me with gdesklet?
[17:04] <KNYlaptop> How do I associate certain applications with URIs? For example, I want VLC (not Totem) to handle rtsp://
[17:04] <Niculittu> it doesn't work
[17:04] <cool> i can't delete a file
[17:04] <cool> $ sudo rm -rf 6.in1.Mib,badboy.species
[17:04] <cool> rm: cannot lstat `6.in1.Mib,badboy.species': Input/output error
[17:04] <neko_> is there a way to set the inkscape icons  inside apps to 16 px ?
[17:04] <paulc> mathen: the configuration file for X?
[17:04] <neko_> i have near no place to work
[17:04] <cyrano> soundray: Ubuntu is host. XP is guest. But right now it won't even connect to host through usb port
[17:04] <neko_> :(
[17:04] <soundray> FrederickAU: I think a different lens is used for reading DVDs, so in principle, your DVD drive could be broken even though it still reads CDs
[17:05] <mathen> paulc, So it does automatic. I don't know how to do it manual... Or I can't
[17:05] <neko_> what happen in dev mind with this UI issue ??
[17:05] <ampex_> zero-9376: I assume it depends on the hardware
[17:05] <FrederickAU> soundray: alright
[17:05] <cool> anyone can help with file delete error?
[17:05] <ikonia> cool: in what way
[17:05] <ampex_> FrederickAU: I've seen a drive that would read/write DVDs but not CDs because of a bad laser
[17:05] <soundray> cyrano: does Windows see any of it when you connect the ppc while Windows has focus?
[17:05] <cool> ikonia, i can't delete a file
 $ sudo rm -rf 6.in1.Mib,badboy.species
 rm: cannot lstat `6.in1.Mib,badboy.species': Input/output error
[17:05] <sipior> cool: what does ls -l <filename> show?
[17:06] <paulc> mathen: i don't really understand what you need, do you want to manually configure x or automatically?
[17:06] <ikonia> cool run "file" against it
[17:06] <mathen> automatically
[17:06] <n2diy_> sipior: that command returns a line that ends in sshd, so it appears to be running?
[17:06] <cool> Sipingal, ikonia ?--------- ? ?    ?            ?                ? 6.in1.Mib,badboy.species
[17:06] <cyrano> soundray: no. and the usb device option in VM menu shows no device to connect
[17:06] <sipior> n2diy_: if the command is /usr/bin/sshd, and not grep sshd, then yes :-) is it on both machines?
[17:07] <cool> $ file 6.in1.Mib,badboy.species
[17:07] <cool> 6.in1.Mib,badboy.species: ERROR: cannot open `6.in1.Mib,badboy.species' (Input/output error)
[17:07] <cool> :(
[17:07] <sipior> cool: try ls -li <filename> see what it thinks the inode is
[17:07] <ikonia> cool: looks like your disk is borked
[17:07] <ikonia> cool: this isn't on a cdrom is it ?
[17:07] <cyrano> soundray: I have tried using virtualbox to. It shows my logitech mouse when connected but no ppc
[17:07] <Niculittu> gdesklet doesn't work: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2383/
[17:07] <CrashOverride> why does ubuntu go extremely slow if I'm playing a youtube video and do anything else at the same time
[17:07] <cool> ikonia, nopes
[17:07] <Niculittu> help me please!
[17:07] <CrashOverride> Windows does it fine
[17:07] <Gringo_> any way to turn off upsampling to 48000 (alsa does this)?
[17:07] <ikonia> CrashOverride: your not using windows
[17:08] <CrashOverride> durr
[17:08] <cool> sipior, ls: 6.in1.Mib,badboy.species: Input/output error
[17:08] <cool> Damm WTH!
[17:08] <sipior> Niculittu: try posting the actual logfile, as the error says
[17:08] <ikonia> cool: can you touch a file in that directory
[17:08] <Marcusklaas> Okay guys I got everything working, customized and ready to go. What do I do now?
[17:09] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: use it ?
[17:09] <Niculittu> how can i do it?
[17:09] <Marcusklaas> Use it for what?!
[17:09] <soundray> cyrano: I don't know what to suggest, other than trying to connect it to a Windows host
[17:09] <Marcusklaas> What can I do?
[17:09] <cool> ikonia, sipior touch: cannot touch `6.in1.Mib,badboy.species': Input/output error
[17:09] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: what are you trying to do
[17:09] <n2diy_> sipior: ok, this box shows the /usr/bin/sshd, and the other box, only returns sshd. So it looks like I have to enable sshd?
[17:09] <LjL> Marcusklaas: remove it all and reinstall from scratch. then do it again.
[17:09] <Niculittu> I'm not expert with linux?
[17:09] <ikonia> cool: I said can you touch another file in that dir
[17:09] <Marcusklaas> LOL LjL
[17:09] <VSpike> I know with generic "Skype phone" handsets they seem to work as a sound device no problem, which is great.  I'm wondering if there is any generic way to catch button presses for them?  I'm wondering if I can hand-roll my own simple drive using DBUS or whatever
[17:09] <sipior> cool: might try running fsck on the filesystem. be sure to unmount the filesystem first...
[17:09] <sipior> n2diy_: yes
[17:10] <Marcusklaas> no but i mean ive been told that getting linux to work is the most interesting part .. i didnt expect it to be over so soon :(
[17:10] <cool> sipior, its a NTFS
[17:10] <sipior> n2diy_: /etc/init.d/sshd start, will start the daemon until a reboot
[17:10] <cool> ikonia, how to do that?
[17:10] <LjL> Marcusklaas, you should have picked a tougher distribution then :P
[17:10] <yakov> do i need to execute additional steps to enable suspend on machine with newly added swap partition.
[17:10] <Marcusklaas> I guess
[17:10] <ikonia> cool touch a_file_name
[17:10] <paulc> mathen: try xorg --configure
[17:10] <ikonia> paulc: no
[17:10] <yakov> i've aded entry fstab...
[17:10] <LjL> Marcusklaas, but i'm pretty confident that, as you start actually using it, you'll find that plenty of things are not quite right, and will be annoying to fix.
[17:10] <cool> ikonia, then what will happen will my data go?
[17:10] <sipior> cool: hmm...file is accessible under windows?
[17:10] <Marcusklaas> Like w0t?!
[17:10] <ikonia> cool: no
[17:10] <Marcusklaas> Getting realaudio n realvideo?
[17:11] <cyrano> soundray: ok. but its my ubuntu usb device which has problems now... well. thanks anyway for your help
[17:11] <LjL> Marcusklaas: nah even just printing when the moon is bad
[17:11] <Marcusklaas> lol
[17:11] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:11] <cool> sipior, no, but other files in same dir are
[17:11] <ikonia> cool: touch a file in that dir
[17:11] <soundray> cyrano: you mean you have trouble with other USB devices as well?
[17:11] <paulc> mathen: be sure to back up your existing file using 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup30112007'
[17:12] <cool> ikonia, done
[17:12] <ikonia> cool: it worked ?
[17:12] <cool> ikonia, yes no errors = worked
[17:12] <paulc> that should be cp instead of mv
[17:12] <narothepharoh> how do i install visualizations on amarok?
[17:12] <sipior> cool: either filesystem corruption, or file corruption. might try running whatever defrag/disk utility windows ships with. linux write support for ntfs is still experimental, iirc
[17:12] <Marcusklaas> hey LjL, i can remember it used to b a real pain to get linux network going with windows computers .. but like it now works instantly :(
[17:13] <ikonia> cool: ok - so try touching the problem file again
[17:13] <ikonia> cool: is this on an ntfs partition
[17:13] <cyrano> soundray: not that i know of yet
[17:13] <cool> ikonia, touch: cannot touch `6.in1.Mib,badboy.species': Input/output error
[17:13] <LjL> Marcusklaas: try some files that have Unicode filenames.
[17:13] <VSpike> narothepharoh: you need to install libvisual and libvisual-plugins
[17:13] <soundray> cyrano: what do you mean by "Ubuntu USB device" then?
[17:13] <Marcusklaas> LjL: what's that? unicode filenames?
[17:14] <cool> sipior, fs is not corrupt for sure, file for sure is
[17:14] <n2diy_> sipior: that command returns unknown command on both boxes, I'm running Dapper on them.
[17:14] <LjL> Marcusklaas: filenames with accented letters.
[17:14] <VSpike> narothepharoh: or libvisual-0.4-0 and libvisual-0.4-plugins to be precise
[17:14] <narothepharoh> Vspike: how do i do this?
[17:14] <JuJuBee> I followd a how-to on the forums on setting up dns.  I double checked everything, but it does not seem to be working.  Can someone give me a hand?
[17:14] <cyrano> soundray: I thought so... but its maybe just my ppc... My wrong :)
[17:14] <Marcusklaas> LjL: linux can't handle those, or windows?
[17:14] <VSpike> narothepharoh: sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0 libvisual-0.4-plugins
[17:14] <JuJuBee> When I set my workstation to use my DNS, and dig something, I get no answer.
[17:14] <sipior> n2diy_: be sure that openssh-server is installed, not just openssh
[17:14] <LjL> Marcusklaas: they can both handle them, they just use different encodings :)
[17:14] <Marcusklaas> LjL: ah alright
[17:15] <Marcusklaas> LjL: why didn't Linux just use the windows encoding then?
[17:15] <Marcusklaas> LjL: it's not liek it's patented or anything
[17:15] <LjL> Marcusklaas: uhm, why didn't Windows just use the Linux encoding?
[17:15] <n2diy_> sipior: ok.
[17:15] <fr500> hi
[17:15] <fr500> does anyone use sdlmame?
[17:15] <chazco> I just got my USB TV sticks remote to work... sort of (compiled v4l-dvb and some of the buttons started working)... any ideas how to get the others to do stuff?
[17:15] <magnetron> JuJuBee: does it work if you use the "host" command instead?
[17:15] <Marcusklaas> LjL: lol cuz windows was there b4 linux? dun get me wrong i dont wanna argue about this :P
[17:15] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:16] <soundray> chazco: wow, well done
[17:16] <JuJuBee> you mean " host mydomain.com" ?
[17:16] <chazco> heh :)
[17:16] <chazco> At least now most of my hardware works with Ubuntu, just a few bits left
[17:16] <LjL> Marcusklaas, Windows was there before Linux, but it definitely didn't have any sort of Unicode support for quite a while. and the encoding that Ubuntu uses is UTF-8, a perfectly standard Unicode encoding defined by the guys who define Unicode encodings
[17:16] <narothepharoh> Vspike: thank you
[17:17] <JuJuBee> magentron: I guess I was too impatient, now I am getting an answer when I dig mydomain.com
[17:17] <LjL> Marcusklaas: not to mention that Windows *as an operating system*, rather than an add-on to DOS, was *not* there before Linux :)
[17:17] <JuJuBee> Must be it took some time to progpogate?
[17:17] <Marcusklaas> LjL: windows refuse to go compatible with linux?
[17:17] <magnetron> Marcusklaas: yep
[17:17] <Marcusklaas> Assholes
[17:18] <holzmodem> hi, after simple restart i can't do a right click on kicker, a normal left click works, what's wrong?
[17:18] <chazco> A side question - any idea how i can get Kaffeine to change channels with the arrow keys (which, incidentally, work on the remote as the same as arrow keys on the keyboard)?
[17:18] <VSpike> narothepharoh: no problem.  The best visualisations are from projectm but I think you have to compile it
[17:18] <LjL> Marcusklaas, Windows just made a different choice of encodings. and, language please
[17:18] <JuJuBee> although it seems that it did not use my dns server to resolve it.
[17:18] <Marcusklaas> sorry
[17:18] <rgnr> hello all
[17:18] <rgnr> need hlp
[17:18] <rgnr> (
[17:18] <VSpike> narothepharoh: There was an article in the latest Linux Format about it as it happens
[17:18] <LjL> !ask
[17:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:18] <rgnr> noob
[17:19] <gordonjcp> Marcusklaas: lol, Windows has only been out for a few years
[17:19] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:19] <LjL> rgnr: try a sentence ending with a question mark
[17:19] <sipior> JuJuBee: is your /etc/resolv.conf setup properly?
[17:19] <narothepharoh> Vspike how do i do that?
[17:19] <warriorforgod> I read an article about 7.04 killing laptop hard drives.  Does anybody know if that bug was fixed in 7.10?
[17:19] <Marcusklaas> hey what i really came here for is i got one of those fancy mouses with back and forward buttons but linux can't recognize them .. any way to configure those buttons?
[17:19] <LjL> gordonjcp, 23 i think
[17:19] <rgnr> can anyone help me ?
[17:19] <digdug> you won't know until you ask
[17:19] <gordonjcp> LjL: so it's fairly new then
[17:19] <JuJuBee> sipior on the server or my workstation?
[17:19] <LjL> gordonjcp: older than Linux for sure
[17:19] <gordonjcp> LjL: not older than Unix, by a long shot
[17:19] <Marcusklaas> gordonjcp: lol yea ... windows 3.1 is liek 10+ years old
[17:20] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:20] <sipior> JuJuBee: workstation, else you won't contact your server by default
[17:20] <LjL> gordonjcp: nope, but moot point since this is about Unicode anyway
[17:20] <VSpike> narothepharoh: there's a howto at http://cwraig.id.au/?p=17
[17:20] <gordonjcp> Marcusklaas: hm, 3.1 was about the last version of Windows I used
[17:20] <VSpike> narothepharoh: I haven't verified it
[17:20] <astro76> !mouse | Marcusklaas
[17:20] <aaron_S> how do I allow my x.org file to be edited via sysinfo with the Nvidia tab?
[17:20] <ubotu> Marcusklaas: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[17:20] <riddareralf> Tjenare alla
[17:20] <LjL> !se | riddareralf
[17:20] <ubotu> riddareralf: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[17:20] <sipior> JuJuBee: you might also try the dig @<server> notation to specify a given dns server
[17:20] <Marcusklaas> thanks ubotu
[17:20] <VSpike> narothepharoh: projectm is a clone of milkdrop from winamp, if you know it
[17:20] <palbuddy> help a newbie!! (me!) I just formated my external hard drive to ext3 and I get a message in gparted that says 'Unable to find mount point, unable to read contents of this system, Because of this some operations are unavailable)
[17:20] <riddareralf> ops
[17:20] <palbuddy> what can I do to fix this?
[17:21] <clever[rev]> how would i use debootstrap to make a partial ubuntu install(from an existing one)
[17:21] <paulc> palbuddy: what is the mount point?
[17:21] <K4k-laptop> Does anyone know of a program similar to PDF-redirect for Ubuntu?
[17:21] <Marcusklaas> LjL: I haven't tested .. but does one still need samba if you want windows users to be able to browse your pc?
[17:21] <JuJuBee> sipior I just modified it.  It now has "search mydomain.com" and "nameserver ip.address.of.dnsserver"
[17:21] <n2diy_> sipior: ok. that is the problem. Any idea how I could load the server via the lan connection?
[17:21] <K4k-laptop> I need a way to print pages, but when I print it makes a PDF file
[17:21] <sipior> n2diy_: not sure what you mean
[17:21] <palbuddy> paulc uhhhhh I don't know it just popps up when I hook it up.  I just formatted it 30 min ago
[17:22] <Hammer89> is there any way to get MS Office working on Ubuntu? (I tried wine... but it's not even starting)
[17:22] <sipior> JuJuBee: and it reaches your dns server properly?
[17:22] <mikone> hi, i just updated from feisty 32bit server to gutsy 32bit server (via aptitude dist-upgrade) and now my machine does not boot up properly anymore. when it should mount my partitions while booting it tells me "you need to be root to do that" (as it would when trying to manually mount a partition) and hence it is not possible to start the system... did anyone experience the same problem?
[17:22] <LjL> Marcusklaas, yes, Samba is exactly that, a CIFS server (CIFS is the file sharing stuff in Windows)
[17:22] <Marcusklaas> Hammer89: I haven't got it working either .. but i feel openoffice is just as good really
[17:23] <Hammer89> Eh... I've used both... there's just something about MS Office 07
[17:23] <Marcusklaas> LjL: so windows user can't browse your pc by default?
[17:23] <n2diy_> sipior: the box that needs the ssh server, isn't connect to the net, it is connect via the lan to this box, which is running ssh server, and also has an internet connection via a dial up modem.
[17:23] <rgnr> i'm trying to install gfx driver
[17:23] <JuJuBee> When I dig mydomain.com, I got no answer when it was trying my dns server.  I dig google.com, it uses my upstream dns server and gets an answer.  Then I dig mydomain.com again and it got an answer, but it did not use my dns server.
[17:23] <LjL> Marcusklaas: no, they can't (fortunately... no security holes by default for me, thanks ;)
[17:23] <rgnr> it fails (
[17:23] <LjL> !samba > Marcusklaas    (Marcusklaas, see the private message from Ubotu)
[17:23] <palbuddy> paulc: any way you could help me out?
[17:24] <magic_ninja> anyone know how to manually install mozilla-gecko
[17:24] <magic_ninja> !mozilla-gecko
[17:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla-gecko - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:24] <sipior> n2diy_: so, log onto this box at the console, install sshd and start it up
[17:24] <Juan> hi all
[17:24] <JuJuBee> sipior : When I dig mydomain.com, I got no answer when it was trying my dns server.  I dig google.com, it uses my upstream dns server and gets an answer.  Then I dig mydomain.com again and it got an answer, but it did not use my dns server.
[17:24] <szundi> hi.It seems that my recently installed new ubuntu7.10 won't recognize my video card.:( What can I do?
[17:25] <chazco> If i use showkey and then press a button on the remote i get a series of codes (which seems to suggest they are being recognised)... how can i map these to functions (e.g. make the "Pictures" button open GIMP or similar)
[17:25] <szundi> I can't see a thing on the monitor
[17:25] <Marcusklaas> szundi: open the add/ remove program and search for either nvidia or ati
[17:25] <sipior> JuJuBee: you don't have a firewall blocking inbound port 53?
[17:25] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, that might be, brb
[17:25]  * Juan : stendhal.game-host.org visit^^
[17:25] <n2diy_> sipior: this box is already running the server, the other box, with out the internet connection is the one that needs the server installed.
[17:26] <rgnr> who wil help me please ?
[17:26] <Juan> what do you want
[17:26] <trumpetmic> anyone using torrentflux?  what's the url for accessing its interface?
[17:26] <rockprincess> rgnr: whats your problem?
[17:26] <szundi> Marcusklaas: how should i open add/remove program if I don't see anything  on my monitor ?
[17:27] <Marcusklaas> szundi: how the hell can you read what i'm typing when you can't see anything is what i'm thinking ..
[17:27] <sipior> n2diy_: can you forward a connection from this box through the one that does have the internet connection? another possibility is to download the package, burn a cd, run it over
[17:27] <szundi> I'm on windows now.
[17:27] <Marcusklaas> szundi: aahh ... okay
[17:27] <szundi> ...:)
[17:27] <Marcusklaas> then it might be a little harder
[17:28] <Marcusklaas> szundi: are you dualbooting?
[17:28] <palbuddy> okay I think the mount point is in /dev/sdb
[17:28] <n2diy_> sipior: I'd like to forward a connection to the other box, how do I do that?
[17:28] <sipior> n2diy_: the package might even still be in your package cache: look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:28] <ociugi> i need instant messenger with webcam capable, what can you suggest?
[17:28] <mathen> How do you disable so I don't have to write my password each time I'm going to do some administrator assignments/tools/upgrades whatever
[17:28] <szundi> mm..yes I have the grub
[17:28] <JuJuBee> sipior : I did, but I opened it up.
[17:28] <erUSUL> ociugi: amsn ?
[17:28] <IgorSobreira> how can i install my ATI 3D graphics in ubuntu 7.10, i cant see it i Restrited drivers manager
[17:28] <ikonia> mathen you only have to put your password in the first time you use sudo
[17:28] <JuJuBee> sipior : still same no answer
[17:28] <n2diy_> sipior: checked the local archive, and it isn't there. I moved the archives over last night with a USB drive.
[17:29] <mathen> I'm not talking about the terminal, out in graphic mode so to say :P
[17:29] <Marcusklaas> szundi: hmmm .. usually it works in 800*640 .. dunno what to do if you can't see anything at all :/
[17:29] <mathen> Each time I open something, I have to write in the password
[17:29] <sipior> n2diy_: slightly complicated to describe, not too hard to do. try googling for ip masquerading / iptables and see what tutorials pop up
[17:29] <ikonia> mathen: same thing
[17:29] <mathen> also, with sudo su -
[17:29] <mathen> hmm....
[17:29] <ikonia> mathen: you should NOT use sudo su -
[17:29] <mathen> Oh
[17:29] <n2diy_> sipior: ok, thanks.
[17:29] <Marcusklaas> you'll get j0r ass hacked lol
[17:29] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:29] <CrashOverride> how do I see how much space of my HD is being used
[17:29] <sipior> JuJuBee: can you connect to the dns server using telnet? "telnet mydns.com 53"
 yahoo, msn, etc
[17:29] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: no he won't. Please don't talk nonsense
[17:29] <mathen> How should I then install it?
[17:29] <Marcusklaas> crashoverride: there's this program
[17:29] <VSpike> does anyone else find that usbview does not work in gutsy?
[17:29] <mathen> Or make it go away
[17:30] <sipior> n2diy_: good luck, have fun :)
[17:30] <ikonia> mathen install what ?
[17:30] <CrashOverride> isn't there just a bash command
[17:30] <mathen> well, make it stop asking me
[17:30] <szundi> I have a S3 ProSavageDDR btw..
[17:30] <palbuddy> I'm sorry guys, how do I set up a mountpoint for my external HD
[17:30] <jf> Why is it that my window decoration is totally transparent when I enable emerald?
[17:30] <ikonia> mathen: it should only ask you the first time
[17:30] <genii> Hammer89: google for "code weavers"
[17:30] <K4k-laptop> Does anyone know of a way so that when I print a document it prints the doc to a pdf file rather then sending it to a printer? Is there an app that will make a virtual printer or something?
[17:30] <ikonia> jf: many people have that problem. It's a bug
[17:30] <mathen> what should I write in terminal to make it ask me?
[17:30] <ikonia> mathen: what ?
[17:30] <JuJuBee> sipior : yes
[17:30] <ikonia> mathen: any sudo command
[17:30] <Marcusklaas> palbuddy: in terminal use mount command
[17:31] <shanky> is any chance to get a kernel 2.6.19 or less in an ubuntu gutsy?
[17:31] <sipior> K4k-laptop: most apps have a print to file checkbox somewhere
[17:31] <mathen> say something, I'm newbie :p
[17:31] <mathen> sudo what? :P
[17:31] <shanky> s/is/is there
[17:31] <Dev_noob> Question : How do I add stuff, such as my AIM and GPG to my Ubuntu Wiki?
[17:31] <sipior> JuJuBee: hmm...does your machine have any entries in its /etc/hosts.deny?
[17:31] <ikonia> mathen: ANY sudo command
[17:31] <sipior> JuJuBee: or /etc/hosts.allow, for that matter
[17:31] <JuJuBee> sipior : server or client?
[17:31] <mathen> I don't know any sudo commands :P
[17:31] <szundi> Nobody has experiencing the same problem...?Can I bee sure that my video card is the problem?
[17:31] <sipior> JuJuBee: server
[17:31] <ikonia> mathen: sudo "anything"
[17:31] <K4k-laptop> sipior: this is using a print icon that is on a web page, I will check file > print in firefox to see if there is similar
[17:32] <sipior> JuJuBee: ah no, nevermind, it would have rejected the telnet :)
[17:32] <mathen> Ok I did
[17:32] <mathen> And it asked for my password
[17:32] <JuJuBee> sipior : no such file.
[17:32] <ikonia> mathen: thats right
[17:32] <mathen> Went to the packet... where you install
[17:32] <mathen> And it asked for my password
[17:32] <ikonia> mathen: whast ?
[17:32] <sipior> JuJuBee: can you access dns from the server itself?
[17:32] <mathen> synapic
[17:32] <mluser-work> Anyone know why everytime I go into the 'Appearance Preferences' utility I get 100% cpu usage?
[17:32] <mathen> Where you can choose from a huge list what to install
[17:32] <K4k-laptop> sipior: the only option I get since it is a window with no file menu bar is the "print page" button located on the web page
[17:32] <ikonia> mathen: thats gksudo - thats a different auth
[17:32] <JuJuBee> sipior : what do you mean?  Im new to dns
[17:32] <K4k-laptop> I will try and add printer, maybe there is something installed by default
[17:33] <mathen> Ok how do I make that remember my password then?
[17:33] <ikonia> mathen: just live with typing in the password, it's too hard to discuss with you
[17:33] <mathen> Try ;P
[17:33]  * K4k-laptop smacks head
[17:33] <ikonia> mathen: just type the password
[17:33] <K4k-laptop> there was a print to file icon right below the properties button
[17:33] <sipior> JuJuBee: well, if you're logged into the dns box, can it see the dns server it is running?
[17:33] <amonkey> how can i select which networks nm-applet will autoconnect to?
[17:34] <HalphaZ> Hi. I've a problem with usb devices (usb memorie, usb HD, usb bluetooth): when I insert a usb device with gutsy started, the devices doesn'ty work. If I restart the system, they works. But if I unplug and after I plug again the devices, they doesn't works... help!!! sorry for my poor english
[17:34] <JuJuBee> sipior : bind     21388  0.0  0.1  39996  3300 ?        Ssl  12:06   0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind
[17:34] <mathen> Could anyone please help me understand how I can make Ubuntu not asking for password when I try to open programs which requires being root or administrator?
[17:34] <Dev_noob> Question : How do I add stuff, such as my AIM and GPG to my Ubuntu Wiki?
[17:34] <ikonia> Dev_noob: edit the wiki page
[17:34] <MONODA> hi would like to learn a programming language that can create drivers for ubuntu can anyone help me?
[17:34] <sipior> JuJuBee: yes, but can you query it? dig @localhost mydomain.com
[17:34] <K4k-laptop> mathen: I don't believe that is possible, it defeats the purpose of not letting root login to the GUI
[17:34] <ikonia> MONODA: no, learn C
[17:35] <erUSUL> HalphaZ: maybe hal is daiying for some reason? check if it's running 'ps ax | grep hal'
[17:35] <JuJuBee> sipior : no answer
[17:35] <Dev_noob> ikonia: I am not sure how to add it in such a way as to have the ubuntu icon
[17:35] <ikonia> K4k-laptop: it is possible, sudo just needs to authenticate the first time
[17:35] <erUSUL> MONODA: C is the only one
[17:35] <mathen> Ok, it's just that I don't remember having to write in my password before.. when I used ubuntu
[17:35] <thor> mathen: you can put the NOPASSWORD option in the sudo users file
[17:35] <sipior> MONODA: have a look for "Linux Device Drivers, 3rd edition" from O'Reilly. And yes, learn C first :-)
[17:35] <ikonia> K4k-laptop: but he's been messing around with "sudo su - " etc etc
[17:35] <K4k-laptop> ikonia: ah, didn't know that, thank you
[17:35] <ikonia> K4k-laptop: hence why I have given up
[17:35] <mathen> ikonia, could you please help me. So it doesn't ask for gksudo then?
[17:36] <K4k-laptop> mathen: why were you messing with sudo su -?
[17:36] <reya276> Is anyone else having an issue with OS load time on laptops with gutsy?
[17:36]  * K4k-laptop releaves ikonia
[17:36] <mathen> To become root, and then install via apt-get
[17:36] <MONODA> ok thanks how can i get a good tutorial(I am a beginner)?
[17:36] <Dev_noob> reya276: I am, but my lappy only has 256MB DDR2
[17:36] <ikonia> reya276: the most common issue is network cards waiting on dhcp
[17:36] <sipior> JuJuBee: looks like you need to debug the dns server config.
[17:36] <reya276> for some strange reason the OS takes for ever to load
[17:36] <K4k-laptop> Dev_noob, they make DDR2 that small?
[17:36] <K4k-laptop> lol
[17:36] <mathen> I'm new, someone told me to use it. And I listen to them, just as I am listening to you right now K4k-laptop and ikonia
[17:36] <Dev_noob> K4k-laptop: Yep
[17:37] <Dev_noob> K4k-laptop: I can get 1GB modules for $24.00US, however.  There is an upgrade in my future
[17:37] <reya276> it's weird because with feisty it was fast on the same laptop
[17:37] <neko_> if i create a gtk2 theme , would i have control of the icons size in toolbars off application ?
[17:37] <ikonia> neko_: sure
[17:37] <sipior> JuJuBee: you might consider pastebinning it, i could take a quick look. i admit it's been a while...
[17:37] <K4k-laptop> Dev_noob, I found on newegg.com a 2GB kit of DDR2-800 for $50, I'm getting 2 kits for my C2D machine soon
[17:37] <ikonia> !offtopic
[17:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:38] <JuJuBee> sipior : thanks, let me check the config first...
[17:38] <HalphaZ> erUSUL, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2388/
[17:38] <K4k-laptop> ikonia: sorry
[17:38] <n2diy_> What port should i forward to enable sharing an internet connection over a lan?
[17:38] <ikonia> K4k-laptop: no biggy
[17:38] <Dev_noob> ikonia: sorry
[17:38] <HalphaZ> it's my ps ax | grep hal
[17:38] <neko_> is there some ressource to proceed
[17:38] <neko_> ?
[17:38] <ikonia> n2diy_: none
[17:38] <juaco> neko_ you may find gnome-color-chooser  useful too
[17:38] <brandon> there is no way to recover files from a formated drive is there?
[17:39] <neko_> i need to remove all the wasted space
[17:39] <neko_> that's insane
[17:39] <ikonia> brandon: not very easy
[17:39] <neko_> too much dev have 2048 x 4092 resolution
[17:39] <K4k-laptop> mathen, PM me
[17:39] <brandon> but it is possible?
[17:40] <ikonia> brandon: yes
[17:40] <ikonia> brandon: in some cases
[17:40] <mathen> You got it? K4k-laptop ?
[17:40] <neko_> i just want to reset
[17:40] <K4k-laptop> mathen: no, we just have to talk here I guess
[17:40] <neko_> the icons to 16 pixel
[17:41] <neko_> and remove  the padding
[17:41] <mathen> Wierd
[17:41] <K4k-laptop> mathen, please join #mathen
[17:41] <n2diy_> ikonia: ok, maybe I asked the wrong question? I want to share my internet connection over a lan. This box is connected to the internet with a dial up modem, it is also connected to a router, the second box is also connected to the router. How can I get internet access to the second box?
[17:41] <erUSUL> HalphaZ: so it seems that hal is not the problem...
[17:41] <juaco> neko_,  try gnome-color-chooser, it lets you finetune your gtk theme
[17:41] <ikonia> n2diy_ share using the router
[17:41] <neko_> i have a look at it
[17:41] <brandon> does anyone know of any ubuntu software to recover data from a previous install
[17:41] <usser> ikonia: he cant can he, dial up.
[17:42] <ikonia> usser he said a modem and a router
[17:42] <JuJuBee> sipior : still no luck, what files should I pastebin?
[17:42] <sipior> n2diy_: have a look here, to get started: http://www.linuxexposed.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=107
[17:42] <ikonia> brandon: no
[17:42] <usser> ikonia: yes but he has a dial up modem so
[17:42] <ikonia> usser: so don't use the modem, use the router
[17:42] <neko_> juaco: where i can find this ?
[17:42] <HalphaZ> just no solution... bad bad os
[17:42] <n2diy_> sipior: ok thanks.
[17:42] <sipior> JuJuBee: named.conf, named.conf.options
[17:42] <usser> ikonia: what if he doesnt have a broadband just router that is used a a hub
[17:43] <ikonia> usser: then he should tell me that
[17:43] <gradin> n2diy_: why would you want to share a 56k connection?
[17:43] <soundray> brandon: you can engage a data rescue service for hundreds of euros with no guarantee of success.
[17:43] <panfist> hey i have very little experience with ubuntu on my desktop and i had a server question....how hard would it be for me to create a virtual machine running ubuntu to serve network installs for me? could i set this up on my desktop? is it possible to serve windows installs through ubuntu?
[17:43] <sipior> JuJuBee: also, try reaching port 53 via telnet, from the server: telnet localhost 53
[17:43] <ikonia> panfist: thats quite tricky
[17:43] <n2diy_> gradin: so I can use the second box as a backup to this one.
[17:43] <juaco> neko_ it is in the repositories, you can install it via package managers
[17:43] <usser> n2diy_: but yea seriously get a dsl or something :0
[17:43] <brandon> soundray: i think ill pass on that
[17:43] <neko_> i think i get it
[17:43] <neko_> it is called gcolor2
[17:43] <gradin> n2diy_: your probably better of installing another phone line and modem on the other computer...
[17:44] <neko_> ah nope
[17:44] <neko_> it permit just to set colors
[17:44] <magic_ninja> is there a channel i get get help with for mozilla-gecko
[17:44] <juaco> the package is called "gnome-color-chooser" and lets you change color and icon sizes too
[17:45] <soundray> brandon: if you have masses of ascii text, it may be worth to examine the disk with lde, the Linux Disk Editor
[17:45] <juaco> almost everything is tunable
[17:45] <JuJuBee> sipior : I can telnet - get message telling me escapte char is '^]' , I am pasting the named.conf.local file since I did not change named.conf as well as the named.conf.options section I added.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46353/
[17:45] <panfist> ikonia which part is quite tricky? the reason i would like to set this up is I had my windows server machine set up to serve network installs at one point but i didnt want to leave it that way for fear of opening a security hole. i guess i could try setting up a windows server virtual machine, but that would slow down my slow migration to ubuntu
[17:45] <neko_> ???
[17:46] <ikonia> panfist: setting up installs to netbook, then use a local apt archive, keeping the mirror in sync etc.
[17:46] <neko_> i don't have any gnome-color-chooser in the repository
[17:46] <bad_influence> !seen cheebuu
[17:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen cheebuu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:46] <panfist> ikonia i dont think i would need to keep a local mirror i just need the server to initiate the install
[17:46] <panfist> just netboot the clients
[17:46] <sipior> JuJuBee: looks okay...what sort of errors do you get? does it silently fail? is anything dumped in the logs when you try to query it?
[17:47] <ikonia> panfist: sort of defeats the object of having a boot server to have to go and download 700 meg for each install
[17:47] <juaco> neko_ ups forgot to mention you have to add a new repo
[17:47] <neko_> ah okey
[17:47] <neko_> i will check
[17:47] <panfist> ikonia well the purpose is to install on a couple machines i have with no optical drives. i would be installing on them very infrequently so i can just grab the updated isos as i need them
[17:48] <JuJuBee> sipior : i get the same output as I get when diging google, except there is no ANSWER SECTION
[17:48] <sipior> JuJuBee: but there's no servfail?
[17:48] <bazhang> brandon: you might try gddrescue
[17:48] <JuJuBee> I do not think so
[17:48] <HalphaZ> Hi. I've a problem with usb devices (usb memorie, usb HD, usb bluetooth): when I insert a usb device with gutsy started, the devices doesn'ty work. If I restart the system, they works. But if I unplug and after I plug again the devices, they doesn't works... help!!! sorry for my poor english
[17:48] <sipior> JuJuBee: pastebin the dig response as well, if you could
[17:48] <panfist> ikonia unless there is an easier way to install an OS on a computer with no optical drive. is booting from USB possible/appropriate?
[17:48] <ikonia> panfist: totally possible, perhaps less effort to make a one off boot usb
[17:49] <ikonia> panfist: or buy a usb cdrom ?
[17:49] <JuJuBee> sipior : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46354/
[17:49] <panfist> ikonia usb CD-rom drives are exorbitantly expensive. especially considering i can netboot for free. if i can pick up a 1gig flash drive for $5-$10 and put an ISO on it that is a different story altogether
[17:49] <JuJuBee> this dig from workstation
[17:50] <ikonia> panfist: your call
[17:50] <toresn> how do i make the gnome-terminal brighter when transparent?
[17:50] <panfist> ikonia how hard is it to install ubuntu from USB i've never done that
[17:50] <brandon> it is hard
[17:50] <brandon> lol
[17:50] <bazhang> panfist: you might check out pendrivelinux dot com
[17:50] <ikonia> panfist bit tricky, straight forward if your ok with linux
[17:50] <brandon> its a pain
[17:50] <panfist> ikonia and brandon, im not OK with linux but my roommate is. im learning
[17:50] <ikonia> panfist: your confident netbooting ?
[17:50] <sipior> JuJuBee: yeah, status:SERVFAIL :)  hmm...this is good news in a way. you know that the server is there and responding
[17:50] <panfist> from windows yes
[17:51] <bazhang> not so bad if you follow the walkthrough on that site though
[17:51] <ikonia> panfist: ahh
[17:51] <brandon> panfist: you dont have cdrom drive?
[17:51] <JuJuBee> sipior : sorry, I missed that in the output before...
[17:51] <sipior> JuJuBee: just need to double-check your local zone file
[17:51] <toresn> how do i make the gnome-terminal brighter when transparent?  the only option i can find is to shaden the terminal
[17:51] <panfist> i do have one i just dont feel like moving it, i could also whip up a windows VM to serve installs in about 1 hour but I'd rather do it in ubuntu if possible
[17:52] <whabo> help.... how do you defrag your harddrive??? and clean it up thx..... anyone can help?
[17:52] <Dr_willis> whabo,  you dont need to defrag ext2/3 filesystems
[17:52] <erUSUL> whabo: no defrag in linux
[17:52] <JuJuBee> sipior : what is it called?  is it /etc/bind/zones/q3ait.org.db ?
[17:52] <KinkyBlackGoat> whabo: you don't
[17:52] <whabo> oww thx
[17:52] <Dr_willis> as for cleaning it..  emty out your users trash cans. :)
[17:52] <brandon> panfist: moving the drive would be easiest... trust me
[17:52] <whabo> thx alot
[17:52] <whabo> :D
[17:52] <K4k-laptop> there is a great article on the forums about cleaning out ubuntu
[17:52] <moh> Is there a way to add an NFS mount to an Ubuntu desktop without manually editing /etc/fstab?  There's mention of there being a "Unix Network (NFS)" item in the Places->Network area.  (This is a 7.10 desktop install)
[17:52] <K4k-laptop> using deborphan and such if your interested
[17:53] <neko_> juaco
[17:53] <mrball> I built a deb from the dsc without changing the name.  Can I pin that local version to stop it from wanting to update from the gutsy source (as it wants to do now)?
[17:53] <juaco> yup
[17:53] <sipior> JuJuBee: that should be the compiled database. but it should be formed from a q3ait.org file that you reference in the configs.
[17:53] <KinkyBlackGoat> whabo: well, you do if you're using some other filesystem in addition to ext that windows is getting it's hands all over
[17:53] <neko_> is it the trevino repository ?
[17:53] <panfist> brandon i have 147 days uptime on the only machine with an optical drive that i can go into...i'd really rather not move it
[17:53] <juaco> lemme check
[17:53] <whabo> kinkyBlackGoat: nope been windows free for 2 months now.
[17:53] <sipior> JuJuBee: unfortunately, i have to be on my way. best of luck getting it sorted, i think you're pretty close. just doublecheck yuor configs against any examples you can find
[17:54] <brandon> panfist ok... hold on.. ill get you the instructions for a usb install
[17:54] <JuJuBee> sipior : thanks for the help
[17:54] <KinkyBlackGoat> I would be too if vmware could handle dx9
[17:54] <XBehave> is there a way to list whats using a module?
[17:54] <K4k-laptop> ikonia: fixed it for him
[17:54] <KinkyBlackGoat> well, no, I wouldn't be
[17:54] <juaco> the repo is "deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/upure64/ gutsy-upure64 main-amd64" it looks like its for x86_64 tho
[17:54] <panfist> i'm on pendrivelinux right now but i dont know if i can install another os from within that environment
[17:55] <whabo> is there a great program you would recommend for videa and/or audio editing i tries out several but i didnt like them... THX
[17:55]  * KinkyBlackGoat ponders installing linux on vmware and using that as his primary despite it being all.. vm-ish
[17:55] <whabo> video
[17:55] <KinkyBlackGoat> it would probably help if you listed the ones you've tried
[17:55] <usser> whabo: did u try kino?
[17:55] <neko_> damn
[17:55] <XBehave> KinkyBlackGoat: why not try wubi
[17:55] <brandon> panfist: there is an official howto from ubuntu.com.. ill get you the link.
[17:55] <neko_> i will try the trevino one
[17:55] <neko_> it is for edgy
[17:55] <whabo> usser: nope is it professional?
[17:56] <neko_> but maybe it will work
[17:56] <Hanyou> I'm having a problem getting the Internet up on a Acer Laptop running. I have it running over a supported wireless card. I'm pulling and IP address and can contact my wireless AP and my Router, but nothing beyond that point. I tried checking to see if it was DNS and wasn't even able to ping beyond my local network. Any suggestions (I'm very new to Linux any help would be appreciated). Also the laptop works fine on any other network, but
[17:56] <mathen> I have a folder my homefolder to be exact, which I want visible on my desktop.. How is that possible?
[17:56] <KinkyBlackGoat> XBehave: because I have no idea what it is, but let me investigate
[17:56] <usser> whabo: hard to say im not a professional to judge :)
[17:56] <juaco> maybe try to compile it, it should'nt be a difficult piece
[17:56] <neko_> not a bad idea
[17:57] <whabo> usser: ill give it a try thx
[17:58] <XBehave> KinkyBlackGoat: it installs ubuntu without changing you windows partiton but ive never tried it myself, its not vm as it installs it on a virtual drive or something
[17:58] <neko_> well it smell like pain in the *ss
[17:58] <usser> whabo: just googled for other options did u try cinelerrra?
[17:58] <KinkyBlackGoat> XBehave: yes I already learned all of that :(
[17:58] <brandon> panstick
[17:58] <erUSUL> mathen: you enabled it.... there's an option to do exactly that
[17:58] <brandon> panfist
[17:58] <panfist> i found this link for installing from a USB drive. it says its for 5.04 but i dont see how it wouldnt still be valid
[17:58] <panfist> http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive
[17:58] <panfist> yes?
[17:58] <brandon> panfist https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[17:59] <KinkyBlackGoat> XBehave: however, i already have vmware installed, so I may as well use it given it allows me to dedicate specific resources to the OS in question
[17:59] <panfist> thank you so much brandon
[17:59] <brandon> panfist thats for 6.06
[17:59] <KinkyBlackGoat> XBehave: thanks, though
[17:59] <brandon> panfist  there may be diffferences... i was unsuccessful
[17:59] <Cherubael> !webcam
[17:59] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[17:59] <mathen> Where can I find that option erUSUL?
[17:59] <mathen> K4k-laptop, do you mind joining #mathen again?
[18:00] <panfist> well i can at least try and see if i can figure it out, i need some experience poking around. thanks again
[18:01] <brandon> panfist
[18:01] <brandon> this is for 7.04
[18:01] <erUSUL> mathen: with the gconf-editor go to apps>nautilus>desktop (iirc)
[18:01] <brandon> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[18:01] <panfist> i just clicked through there
[18:01] <brandon> lol
[18:01] <brandon> ok
[18:02] <brandon> does the bot have info on that?
[18:02] <ttt-> whats a good mp3 radio player?
[18:02] <palbuddy> I would appreciate any help I can get....looking for a webpage that says 'how to hook up an external hard drive in linux for dummies?'
[18:02] <ankur> if my ubuntu os being crashed what i do?
[18:02] <brandon> -usb-install
[18:03] <brandon> how do you inquire the bot?
[18:03] <ankur> can i back up my tital os?
[18:03] <ankur> is it possible in ubuntu?
[18:03] <sudobash> what?
[18:03] <ankur> how i do that?
[18:03] <ankur> pls any one tell me
[18:03] <sudobash> what?
[18:03] <brandon> ankur: what is it you are trying to do
[18:04] <brandon> ankur: backup your harddrive?
[18:04] <ankur> yes
[18:04] <brandon> ankur: to where... dvd, cd, usb, partition?
[18:04] <ankur> how i do that?
[18:04] <Hanyou_> Does anyone in here know much about extremely technical networking involving point to point T1's? I have a Ubuntu 7.10 install that I cannot get on the Interent with.
[18:05] <ankur> partition
[18:05] <BrowneR> ankur: try installing the "partimage" package
[18:05] <sudobash> hanyou_ try #networking
[18:05] <ankur> bradon: how i do that?
[18:05] <Hanyou_> Ty
[18:05] <sudobash> but hey
[18:06] <kane77> how can I change the behavior of gnome save dialog? if start typing the name it just start the quick search and I need to click into the field for name to edit the actual name...
[18:06] <sudobash> what does it say when you do ifconfig
[18:06] <ankur> then
[18:06] <Cherubael> When i installed Ubuntu GRUB overwrote the boot sector, but didn't include the bootable NTFS partition. Any way to manuallt add it?
[18:06] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a problem with Gutsy, a lot of times after a power up the laptop, I find the clock lagging by several ours
[18:06] <Hanyou_> It pulls the IP and the local gateway
[18:06] <Hanyou_> It evens gets DNS
[18:06] <Hanyou_> just can't ping beyond the local net
[18:06] <carnelain> can I change the location of folders like Documents and Music (7,10)
[18:06] <insllvn> hey guys
[18:06] <brandon> panfist: you having any luck
[18:06] <Hanyou_> really wierd
[18:07] <Cherubael> restart your router, Hanyou_?
[18:07] <sudobash> maybe your gateway/dns isnt correct?
[18:07] <toresn> how do i make the gnome-terminal brighter when transparent?  the only option i can find is to shaden the terminal
[18:07] <Hanyou_> Tried not getting it sitll
[18:07] <sudobash> or yeah restart might fix it
[18:07] <BrowneR> Cherubael: i can help u with grub i think.
[18:07] <Hanyou_> It's a corperate net if that helps I'm sysadmin
[18:07] <sudobash> are you sure the dns and gateway are correct
[18:08] <BrowneR> Cherubael: run gparted to find out the partition layout of your disk
[18:08] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Ok
[18:08] <Hanyou_> Yeah confirmed on my Windows box and set DNS manually to make sure
[18:08] <whabo> hellloo is openmovieeditor a good program for editing movies? i need a edit a project that ive been working on for a week. i need some1 to help me find a good video editor and an audio editor. any help would be appreciated.  THANK YOUUU.
[18:08] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Is their a keyboard shortcut to opening Terminal? I'm fed up with hitting the menus
[18:09] <insllvn> I have a friend who wants to format a hard drive we tried using gparted, but it only wants to create a disk label, and when I select a label, gparted crashes, according to the error report in the terminal, it is unable to be opened because the disk has an unrecognized disk label
[18:09] <panfist> brandon i'll find out later i'm still downloading install sources
[18:09] <BrowneR> Cherubael: yup, go to System-->Prefrences-->Keyboard
[18:09] <BrowneR> Cherubael: yup, go to System-->Prefrences-->Keyboard Shortcuts even
[18:09] <BrowneR> Cherubael: u can define it in there :p
[18:09] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Awesome, i'll set it up when i've done this :)
[18:09] <insllvn> the disk was formated with a backup utitlity called cronus/chronus, and is NOT NTFS it was used as a dumping point for backup data
[18:10] <insllvn> can I use ubuntu to format this drive?
[18:10] <BrowneR> Cherubael: i presume you just have one harddrive with ubuntu and windows on it?
[18:10] <insllvn> if so how?
[18:10] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Ok, got the partition info up, and yeah both on one drive
[18:10] <jogui> ahhhh
[18:10] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a problem with Gutsy, a lot of times after I power up the laptop, I find the clock lagging by several hours, can anyone help me with this ?
[18:10] <jogui> yo
[18:10] <Goong> hello i was wondering
[18:10] <power788> How can I make it so Avant Window Manager does not hide when I click "Show Desktop"?
[18:10] <Goong> hey i was wondering does anyone know how to set up your broadband internet connection to switch automatically to a dial up if it goes down?
[18:11] <carnelain> can I change the location of folders like Documents and Music (7,10)?
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[18:11] <bazhang> carnelain: to where?
[18:11] <BrowneR> Cherubael: ok, find your ntfs partition in the diagram. we need to know what number it is. if you count from the left making the first partition 0
[18:12] <carnelain> I different partition containing those same folders
[18:12] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Aye, np
[18:12] <power788> how can i get the title for a running program that doesnt have window borders?
[18:12] <carnelain> So windows and ubuntu use the same folders
[18:12] <Weiss> Goong: don't know for sure, but "diald" might be useful in setting that up
[18:12] <Goong> thanx weis
[18:13] <bazhang> carnelain: why would you want to do that?
[18:13] <BrowneR> Cherubael: right now lets open grubs config file so we can add the lines we need.
[18:13] <magnetron> !enter > carnelain
[18:13] <BrowneR> Cherubael: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:13] <carnelain> sorry magnetron
[18:14] <carnelain> bazhang I want windows and ubuntu to use the same folder
[18:14] <Hanyou_> I have a dual boot using 7.10 with widnows on the other partion. Problem is it boots up very slowly because of the drive check on the windows partion. How can I get Ubuntu to skip that drive check?
[18:14] <bazhang> carnelain: dual boot of vista and gutsy? and want to share a partition?
[18:15] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Yeah done that... Why does gedit propagate through desktops? That's irritating...
[18:15] <yell0w> hey guys, where can i find the log of vino ?
[18:15] <BrowneR> Cherubael: hehe
[18:16] <BrowneR> Cherubael: right now we need to add some lines to the very end of the file. after the ###END AUTOMATIC KERNELS line
[18:16] <BrowneR> Cherubael: add the following and place the partition number from earlier where i put an X
[18:16] <brandon> can anyone tell me the usage for hexdump to dump to a file?
[18:16] <BrowneR> title Windows
[18:16] <BrowneR> root (hd0,0)
[18:16] <BrowneR> makeactive
[18:16] <BrowneR> chainloader +1
[18:16] <BrowneR> boot
[18:16] <ankur> BRowner: u there?
[18:17] <BrowneR> Cherubael: u get that?
[18:17] <carnelain> vista and gutsy on seperate partition and one partition with data files (music pictures movies documents etc)
[18:17] <BrowneR> ankur: ye, whats up?
[18:17] <FallenHi1okiri> is there no kernel with vserver patch in gutsy available?
[18:17] <ankur> i install partimage
[18:18] <eFfeM> hi, did something stupid, installed compiz, didn't like it, removed it and now I do not have a window manager any more; what is the "normal" ubuntu window manager and how can i auto activate it ?
[18:18] <ankur> but when i run it it say inode missing
[18:18] <FallenHi1okiri> eFfeM: metacity
[18:18] <BrowneR> Cherubael: change the line "root (hd0,0)" so it is "root (hd0,X)" where X is your ntfs partition number
[18:18] <selene> hi..noob here, i wanted to change my username, it was mentioned on the forums to use "sudo usermod -l login-name old-name" and also to move /home/oldname to /home/newname .. well err.. now X wont start up and i m stuck with  command line :S
[18:18] <eFfeM> FallenHi1okiri, thanks
[18:18] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Yup, done
[18:18] <crashlab> I hope you are interested on it: http://www.smokinglinux.com/home/linux-contest-win-free-hosting
[18:18] <Whitor> eFfeM: metacity .... from a terminal metacity --replace
[18:19] <ankur> BrowneR u hair
[18:19] <eFfeM> cool whitor, thanks!
[18:19] <BrowneR> ankur: run "sudo partimage" from a terminal
[18:19] <allquixotic> someone named crashlab is spamming
[18:19] <Pici> !ot | crashlab
[18:19] <ubotu> crashlab: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:19] <crashlab> no spam
[18:19] <crashlab> I'm only chatting here
[18:19] <filloy> If Unison (a synchronization program) deletes some files...is there any way to recover them??...i think i just deleted all my db's
[18:19] <neko_> hey juaco
[18:19] <Pici> crashlab: This is a support channel, take general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[18:19] <neko_> thanks
[18:20] <crashlab> ok
[18:20] <crashlab> ty
[18:20] <neko_> i succeed install one version
[18:20] <Whitor> Anyone have hdaps working on their thinkpad ?
[18:20] <allquixotic> Whitor: what exactly do you expect it to do?
[18:20] <selene> hi..noob here, i wanted to change my username, it was mentioned on the forums to use "sudo usermod -l login-name old-name" and also to move /home/oldname to /home/newname .. well err.. now X wont start up and i m stuck with  command line :S
[18:20] <neko_> iit give some reaaly fresh air
[18:20] <BrowneR> Cherubael: ok good that should be you. you may want to check just for consistency that the similar line for ubuntu reads root hd(0,... as well and not hd(1,...
[18:20] <Whitor> allquixotic: work :)
[18:20] <brandon> pici: is there a way to output cat to a file?
[18:20] <Cherubael> BrowneR: The partition is labelled /dev/hda5 Is that the number I need? Or do I just count in the diagram?
[18:20] <juac1> neko_ i installed the new version too
[18:20] <Whitor> allquixotic: its not loading ... doesn't see the device... I suspect the kernal doesn't know that my hdaps hardware exists
[18:20] <juac1> worked for you?
[18:21] <allquixotic> Whitor: I was under the impression that hdaps just creates a readable device for sensor data from the thwack sensor or whatever that device is. it doesn't stop your disk
[18:21] <BrowneR> Cherubael: just count starting at ZERO! not the /dev/sda number
[18:21] <ere4si> selene; as a test type   startx
[18:21] <x_or> Can anyone tell me if I can safely turn off acpid?  I have a box that appears to "sleep" or "freeze" without warning and I want to stop that.  Could that be acpid?
[18:21] <genii> selene: sudo chown newname -R /home/newname
[18:21] <allquixotic> Whitor: sudo modprobe hdaps  ----> ?
[18:21] <neko_> that's the old one
[18:21] <Pici> brandon: cat stuff > outfile
[18:21] <neko_> i have found
[18:21] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Ok awesome that's done
[18:21] <brandon> Pici: ty :)
[18:21] <neko_> some stuff look like a little broken
[18:21] <Whitor> allquixotic: correct, though the device file does not exist ... I'll get you that output, hold on
[18:21] <BrowneR> Cherubael: save that an your away :p
[18:21] <neko_> but it keep better than no place
[18:22] <Pici> brandon: output redirection is one of the main features of bash, > will output any command to a file (if it goes to standard out)
[18:22] <Whitor> allquixotic: sudo modprobe hdaps -> FATAL: Error inserting hdaps (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-rt/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hdaps.ko): No such device
[18:22] <selene> k genii..just a sec..
[18:22] <juac1> neko_ the app looks very cool to me, only thing thats cracks me up is why in heaven in doesn't let you save the settings as gtkrc files
[18:22] <Whitor> Yep, I'm using the rt kernal... is that the issue ?
[18:22] <genii> selene: after that one, sudo usermod -d /home/newname newname
[18:22] <neko_> ???
[18:22] <neko_> what ?
[18:23] <neko_> oh no
[18:23] <allquixotic> Whitor: that doesn't sound right. you should be able to load the module whether you have the device or not
[18:23] <insllvn> ok best i can figure this HDD is not formated, or is formated to some obscure BS proprietary format so is there a way to format an unlabeled disk?
[18:23] <alduin> crashlab: If you're not spamming, why did I get your same message via PM?
[18:23] <neko_> please tell me it's not true
[18:23] <insllvn> possibly a command line option?
[18:23] <allquixotic> Whitor: try rebuilding the module from source, make sure you have the source tree set up
[18:23] <juac1> try if you can i'll be glad to hear it can do that
[18:23] <Whitor> allquixotic: so, what do I do ?
[18:23] <Whitor> allquixotic: ok, thanks.... it wsa origanlally installed via synaptic
[18:24] <neko_> well
[18:24] <neko_> i have deconnect
[18:24] <neko_> and reconnect
[18:24] <genii> selene: After that second command,   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:24] <neko_> and the settings keep here
[18:24] <juac1> k
[18:24] <selene> k hold
[18:24] <selene> pls
[18:25] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a problem with Gutsy, a lot of times after I power up the laptop, I find the clock lagging by several hours, can anyone help me with this ?
[18:25] <insllvn> i can't find any info on the format command, does anyone know the syntax, and if/how i can point it at a specific directory/disk?
[18:25] <Cherubael> BrowneR: Awesome, thanks bud :D
[18:25] <rothchild> hi, is it possible to get nautilus to show previews of picture files on a samba share? (I just get normal icons at the moment)
[18:25] <Whitor> allquixotic: should I uninstall the synapic installed version first?
[18:25] <filloy> please help me, ive just deleted a folder with all my databases!! is there anything i can do?
[18:25] <Pici> insllvn: the command is mkfs, read the manpage.  Or use gparted/parted if you need more guidance
[18:26] <insllvn> Pici thank you
[18:26] <genii> selene: next time use usermod thusly:   sudo usermod -l newname -m -d /new/homedir oldname
[18:26] <allquixotic> Whitor: you'll need the official Ubuntu source tree, which is in synaptic or generally apt, yes. after that, I would recommend you try building hdaps from the official site distributing it. although -- if you build hdaps from the Ubuntu sources, it might work too... of course, the problem could be _in_ the Ubuntu sources
[18:27] <allquixotic> Whitor: it's equally likely that you are trying to load a module not built for the current version of the kernel you're running; if that is the case, a simple rebuild from Ubuntu sources should do the trick
[18:27] <stuart> hi guys, how'd i know if i have 3d acceleration enabled?
[18:27] <x_or> Can I safely remove powernowd?  Is this required?
[18:27] <Taggard> Does anyone know how to open a .img file?
[18:27] <allquixotic> stuart: in a console: glxinfo | grep direct should return "Direct rendering: Yes"
[18:28] <stuart> allquixotic, thanks!
[18:28] <juac1> neko_ i see now, it saves its gtkrc as ~/.gtkrc-2.0-gnome-color-chooser and puts an include in the main ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[18:28] <tEsIs> Hola!!! tengo un pequeño problema! ayer kubuntu me informo de que exitía una nueva versión y tal... yo la baje y la instale y despues me aperecio una ventana que me decia algo de los drivers de la tarjeta de video ATI y ponía que si los bajaba podria darme problemas o algo así y yo los baje = y efectivamente... cuando quiero ver una peli me va a saltitos y en la anterior version esto no pasaba, a ver si me podeis ayudar.
[18:28] <tEsIs> Gracias!!!
[18:28] <Pici> !es | tEsIs
[18:28] <ubotu> tEsIs: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[18:28] <stuart> btw, has anyone gotten wmv 8 files to run smoothly? every other format seems to be okay
[18:28] <tEsIs> !es
[18:28] <tEsIs> ah!
[18:28] <tEsIs> ok
[18:28] <Whitor> allquixotic: great info, I'll get to work.
[18:28] <ignus> hi, what do i need to add to my fstab to give mu user account access to my new hard drive?
[18:28] <neko_> cool
[18:28] <tEsIs> the channel is inglish
[18:28] <tEsIs> xd
[18:28] <neko_> well now
[18:29] <filloy> tEsIs: si, hay uno en español, #ubuntu-es
[18:29] <tEsIs> ok filloy thanks
[18:29] <rothchild> hi, is it possible to get nautilus to show previews of picture files on a samba share? (I just get normal icons at the moment)
[18:29] <selene> genii sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart cmmd not found :s
[18:30] <Marcusklaas> Could anyone help me out with xorg.conf file? I'm trying to configure my mouse so that the Back/ Forward buttons work.
[18:30] <Pici> rothchild: In the nautilus preferences, you can pick whether you want it to generate thumbnails on network drives
[18:31] <rothchild> thanks pici
[18:31] <genii> selene:  Are you sure you are using ubuntu and not instead kubuntu?
[18:31] <selene> oops hehe it shuld be kdm
[18:31] <selene> srry
[18:31] <genii> selene: Yes, if kubuntu
[18:32] <NovusProleator> Hello everyone
[18:32] <dmckee> hey all. quick question. I deleted the bottom Panel on the default desktop (Ubuntu7.10) How would I get the running tasks and the multi-desktop things back if I create a new panel??
[18:32] <Marcusklaas> hi
[18:32] <selene> yeah
[18:32] <neko_> juac1
[18:32] <r3r3> ello i uninstalled bittorrentgui via synaptic and it asked to also uninstall gnome-desktop.. i did it is it bad? won t have gnome at the reboot or sth?!?
[18:32] <MrPink_> Does anyone know of a good Java Help IRC channel ?
[18:32] <selene> yay!!
[18:32] <neko_> on the last version you have more parameter ?
[18:32] <selene> tx alooot genii :D
[18:32] <Pici> MrPink_: ##java
[18:32] <Marcusklaas> mrpink_: you mean developer hel?
[18:32] <Marcusklaas> help*
[18:32] <neko_> because it cannot handle the inkscape icons
[18:32] <Marcusklaas> Could anyone help me out with xorg.conf file? I'm trying to configure my mouse so that the Back/ Forward buttons work.
[18:32] <ignus> hi, can someone help me with an fstab question?
[18:33] <dmckee> nusy in here... lol
[18:33] <genii> selene: you're welcome. remember the way I said after to use the usermod command if you require this another time. it will do those steps we manually did.
[18:33] <insllvn> Pici I get "file too large while trying to determine filesystem size" the drive is 160GB
[18:33] <Pici> insllvn: with which tool?
[18:33] <ignus> anyone?
[18:33] <selene> ok will do :D
[18:33] <insllvn> "mkfs"
[18:34] <Pici> insllvn: Do you have a gui on that computer, gparted is much easier to use
[18:34] <insllvn> i do, but it crashes trying to label the disk
[18:34] <azerty> bone sera
[18:35] <sudobash> gparted and Super Grub Disk ROCK!
[18:35] <shanky> is there any way to get a kernel 2.6.19 or less in an ubuntu gutsy?
[18:35] <czorny> hello:)
[18:35] <Marcusklaas> hi
[18:35] <czorny> where are u from ?
[18:36] <Marcusklaas> Ubuntu 7.1
[18:36] <Marcusklaas> j00?
[18:36] <Pici> !offtopic | czorny
[18:36] <ubotu> czorny: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:36] <arnout_> hi all, just installed ubuntu, but totem says that I need more codecs... where can I can get divx-codec for totem (avi)
[18:36] <czorny> :)
[18:36] <Marcusklaas> ARNOUT_: I KNOW THAT ONE!
[18:36] <Marcusklaas> w00t!
[18:36] <dmckee> hey all. quick question. I deleted the bottom Panel on the default desktop (Ubuntu7.10) How would I get the running tasks and the multi-desktop things on another panel??
[18:36] <erUSUL> shanky: try installing the edgy *.17 kernel... but things may break
[18:36] <arnout_> marculaas: please tell me!
[18:37] <erUSUL> dmckee: add to the pannel a list of windows
[18:37] <whabo> hello there. is there a program that i can get to MIX music. for mixing... thx alot .. any help would be appreciated.
[18:37] <arnout_> i installed ubuntu 5.04...
[18:37] <Pici> dmckee: right click on the panel, go to 'add to panel' add window list and 'pager'
[18:37] <erUSUL> whabo: mixxx
[18:37] <scguy318> arnout_: that's seriously old
[18:37] <Shadow147> ok I need the packages for compiling in ubuntu
[18:37] <whabo> erUSUL: thx
[18:37] <Pici> arnout_: 5.04 is no longer supported as of October 31, 2006.
[18:37] <dmckee> Thank you arnout!
[18:37] <Marcusklaas> dude arnout_ wtf .. get 7.1 fast
[18:37] <arnout_> i am downloading 7.04 right now, will that solve the codec problem?
[18:37] <Pici> Shadow147: they are in the build-essential package.
[18:38] <arnout_> 7.1 yeah
[18:38] <Shadow147> Pici ok
[18:38] <Pici> !codecs > arnout_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:38] <vermel> lol
[18:38] <Pici> insllvn: I believe there is a 'capabilities' (or similar) option somewhere in gparted, does it list labelling for your filesystem type?
[18:38] <Marcusklaas> arnout_: okay, here's what you do: IN TOP LEFT corner of your screen click applications (the drop down menu) then pick add/remove .. then when the window opens go to the top right corner of that window and pick "ALL AVAILABLE" from the drop down menu .. then search for codec... sort to popularity and pick the codex package
[18:38] <czorny> man help me ;/ me monitor in lapotop out for 5min ;/ why/
[18:39] <_FusioN_> oi
[18:39] <czorny> oi:)
[18:39] <czorny> jest ktos z polski:D
[18:39] <czorny> ^^:D
[18:39] <Pici> !pl | czorny
[18:39] <czorny> sorry :D
[18:39] <czorny> :)
[18:39] <Marcusklaas> !pl
[18:39] <ubotu> czorny: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[18:39] <Pici> czorny: the bot has information.. but isnt responding...
[18:39] <Pici> There we go.
[18:39] <czorny> !pl
[18:40] <Pici> czorny: read ubotu's response above.
[18:41] <Marcusklaas> Anyone know any useful/ cool programs for Ubuntu 7.1?
[18:41] <paoniametap3> Marcusklaas = all of them
[18:41] <Marcusklaas> -_-
[18:41] <Hippotamus>  :) what do you need?
[18:41] <paoniametap3> What are you looking to do
[18:41] <Shadow147> I had to reinstall gutsy fatal error
[18:42] <Marcusklaas> Hmmm nothing really just chilling on Linux ..
[18:42] <Pici> Marcusklaas: check out http://debaday.debian.net/ most of these packages are in the repos.
[18:42] <Marcusklaas> thanks pici
[18:42] <insllvn> Pici, Show Features perhaps? the whole thing is unallocated at the current time
[18:42] <Shadow147> I was all set up I was compiling and installing using python
[18:43] <mathen> http://tuxx-home.at/archives/2007/04/10/T15_55_43/
[18:43] <mathen> oops, sorry
[18:43] <Pici> insllvn: ah, okay. Why dont you go ahead and make the filesystem, format it and worry about the label afterwards?
[18:43] <Shadow147> now I have to start from scratch
[18:44] <insllvn> Pici, i only have the option to set the label, it grays out practically everything else
[18:44] <godzirra> Can anyone please help me?  I've got gutsy and a snd_hda_intel card.  I followed method E at this url: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller ... My card shows up if I cat /proc/asound/cards, and dmesg shows no errors.  Alsamixer shows the device as turned up all the way, but I get no sound.
[18:44] <Marcusklaas> One thing that sucks about Linux is that too much application are environment dependent (Gnome/KDE/XFCE) etc
[18:44] <roadkill> if i set up a proxy server, wouldnt my ip change when i go to a site like whatsmyip.***
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Marcusklaas,  i run gnome apps under kde and kde aps under gnome with very little issues at all.
[18:44] <Marcusklaas> What kind of issues?
[18:44] <Marcusklaas> like, graphical?
[18:45] <usser> Marcusklaas: yes whats the problem with that?
[18:45] <Shadow147> roadkill I would beleive so
[18:45] <Shadow147> !prox server
[18:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prox server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:45] <Shadow147> !proxy server
[18:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:45] <usser> Marcusklaas: not like u cant run gnome apps in kde. u can
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Marcusklaas,  so few that i cant even think of any.. AGES ago there were some issues.. but i honestly havent seen any lately. You can even drag/drop from Konqueror to Nautilus i belive
[18:45] <r3r3> re ello i uninstalled bittorrentgui via synaptic and it asked to also uninstall gnome-desktop.. i did it is it bad? won t have gnome at the reboot or sth?!?
[18:45] <czorny> who help me ?:D
[18:45] <Marcusklaas> usser: well it'd be way better if you could use any linux program in any situation .. it'd be best if you could use any program on any platform
[18:46] <roadkill> czorny: that guy -->
[18:46] <chester_martins_> anyone knows an howto about create a own gtk theme?? I REALLY NEED HELP PLEASE
[18:46] <Dr_willis> Marcusklaas,  the main issue i can think of some times is not all the apps use the 'system tray for the icons' correctly. and thats normaly only an issue with non-gnome-or-kde window managers.
[18:46] <marcus_> hello i am trying to resize my desktop to 1440x900 with nvidia 7300 card. how would i do this?
[18:46] <rattts> im having a problem with my router or modem....the dsl dies like after one day and then the internet stops working....disconnecting the router and plugging the comp into the modem doesnt seem to help. can someone help me figure out the problem please
[18:46] <Pici> !caps | chester_martins_
[18:46] <ubotu> chester_martins_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[18:46] <czorny> w8 i think :P:D
[18:46] <warriorforgod> r3r3: Well, if you told it to uninstall gnome you probably won't have a gui after reboot
[18:46] <Dr_willis> Yes.. creating a theme is soo critucal it needs to be yelled about. :)
[18:46] <usser> Marcusklaas: well i'd say gnome's GTK should be a standard but i'll get beat up right away
[18:46] <Pici> rattts: Thats not really an Ubuntu issue, you might try asking in #networking or #hardware
[18:46] <Marcusklaas> lol usser
[18:46] <Dr_willis> gnome-look.org dosent have any tutorials?
[18:46] <rattts> ok]
[18:47] <chester_martins_> i will see dr. willis
[18:47] <r3r3> well that s what i thought
[18:47] <r3r3> but it was just gnome-desktop
[18:47] <Dr_willis> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes
[18:47] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: Hello, I got a problem with Gutsy, a lot of times after I power up the laptop, I find the clock lagging by several hours, you got any idea what the problem can be ?
[18:47] <r3r3> and i can t find it in the synaptic
[18:47] <Pici> insllvn: Have you created a parition yeT?
[18:47] <Dr_willis> comes up as a decent google hit on gtk themeing.
[18:47] <Lifeisfunny> what's the open chat channel for ubuntu?
[18:48] <Sean|> your mom is a google
[18:48] <warriorforgod> !gnome-desktop | r3r3
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  if its the exact same amount of time each time. It may be the Timezone is wrong.
[18:48] <Pici> Lifeisfunny: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:48] <Marcusklaas> Hey question: if I was to download the xubuntu desktop .. can I get rid of it as a whole too? or do have to trace down every component itself and delete those?
[18:48] <scguy318> Lifeisfunny: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:48] <warriorforgod> !gnome | r3r3
[18:48] <ubotu> r3r3: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[18:48] <erUSUL> Marcusklaas: the later
[18:48] <Marcusklaas> DAMN
[18:48] <r3r3> !gnome-desktop
[18:48] <usser> Marcusklaas: yep thats how it is
[18:48] <insllvn> Pici almost all my options are grayed out in gparted. there are currently no partitions, and no way i can see to make one
[18:48] <chester_martins_> thanks Dr_willis
[18:48] <Pici> insllvn: How did you run gparted?
[18:48] <Dr_willis> Marcusklaas,  but why bother.:) its not like its taking up a lot of space.
[18:48] <Pici> Sean|: Do you have anything constructive to say?
[18:48] <erUSUL> insllvn: you need to add a partition table to the disk first
[18:48] <Sean|> haha, not yet
[18:49] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: anything else ?
[18:49] <r3r3> warriorforgod, i know what gnome is
[18:49] <Marcusklaas> dr_willis: no i know but i don't want all those programs eating away CPU n memory when there are gnome apps running doing the exact same thing
[18:49] <erUSUL> insllvn: in Tools menu (herramientas in my spanish version)
[18:49] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: zdump /etc/localtime gives the correct time zone
[18:49] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  ages ago my laptop had a bios bug that made its clock run at 20 times normal speed.. i could litteraly watch the seconds fly past.. :)
[18:49] <Pici> erUSUL: I'm thinking that hes running it without sudo/gksudo
[18:49] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  but if your clock is only changing at boot up.. well thats odd.
[18:49] <Therion> Hello there
[18:50] <erUSUL> AnAnt: do you dual boot with windows?
[18:50] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: yeah, and doesn't always happen
[18:50] <r3r3> warriorforgod is it safe to install gnome-desktop-environement from synaptic packet manager?
[18:50] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  its a decently new laptop? Check the bios time see what it says? it may some how be getting reset
[18:50] <AnAnt> erUSUL: nope !
[18:50] <Marcusklaas> r3r3: yea lol
[18:50] <Sean|> any idea why my internal laptop speakers won't mute when i plug in headphones?
[18:50] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: yes, new laptop
[18:50] <r3r3> :D
[18:50] <warriorforgod> r3r3: I don't see why not.
[18:50] <r3r3> it is unthicked
[18:50] <Sean|> thats literally the *last* broken feature on my system with gutsy
[18:50] <Marcusklaas> r3r3: that just means you don't have it yet lol, it's safe alright
[18:51] <r3r3> haha
[18:51] <Sean|> i got my internal webcam to work - which was totally shocking
[18:51] <Therion> Someone can explain me (if possible) how to disable gl extensions in xorg?
[18:51] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: you mean I get into the bios before booting linux ?
[18:51] <Marcusklaas> no rly
[18:51] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  yea. check the clock in there.
[18:51] <scguy318> AnAnt: its the first thing that loads when you press the power button on the computer, so yes
[18:51] <erUSUL> Therion: comment out the glx module in Modules section ??
[18:52] <insllvn> Pici, I don't see a tools menu... I have GParted, Edit, View, Device, Partition, Help
[18:52] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  ive had pc's with a dead cmos battery (like a little watch battery) their clocks always got reset.
[18:52] <Pici> insllvn: How did you start gparted?
[18:52] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: well, if I find it lagging (not reset), what should I do ?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  if you are always networked you could enable that ntp server/client to sync the time with the internet.
[18:52] <Therion> erUSUL: i try, thanks
[18:52] <godzirra> Can anyone please help me?  I've got gutsy and a snd_hda_intel card.  I followed method E at this url: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller ... My card shows up if I cat /proc/asound/cards, and dmesg shows no errors.  Alsamixer shows the device as turned up all the way, but I get no sound.
[18:52] <usser> Therion: in xorg.conf find section "Extensions" and add Option composite  "disable"
[18:52] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: I mean, I find the clock lagging by few hours, not days & months !
[18:53] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: so I don't think that the clock is reset
[18:53] <Shadow147> I am getting all of my development packages and other things so I can compile and other thins
[18:53] <Therion> usser: ok :)
[18:53] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: I am using ntp indeed
[18:53] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  i would be taking carefull notes on when/where this happens and see if its repeatable I guess. it ONLY changes while you are powered down/and reboot?
[18:53] <r3r3> i have the feeling i won t have a gui after rebooting
[18:53] <Marcusklaas> LOL r3r3
[18:53] <Marcusklaas> What is it with you?
[18:53] <r3r3> :/
[18:54] <Marcusklaas> There's nothing to dechill
[18:54] <insllvn> Pici, I started it from System>Administration i thought you meant a tools menu in GParted
[18:54] <usser> Therion: here take a look at how its supposed to look http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2004-August/002123.html
[18:54] <Marcusklaas> It'll work alright
[18:54] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  if its losing time while running.. would lead us to  look at  the software thats running or the bios clock/settings.
[18:54] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: yes, when powered down, then reboot
[18:54] <Pici> insllvn: Nope, Did it prompt you for the root password when you started it?
[18:54] <Therion> usser: perfect, it works also for xorg 7.0.2?
[18:55] <usser> Therion: yes
[18:55] <insllvn> yes
[18:55] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: also when I find it lagging, I do /etc/init.d/ntp restart
[18:55] <Therion> usser: thanks again, you save my life :D
[18:55] <roadkill> can someone help me setup an annonomys proxy?
[18:55] <usser> Therion: np
[18:55] <Pici> insllvn: You could try doing it from the LiveCD or from a Gparted LiveCD, I've never had issues with either of those.
[18:55] <Lifeisfunny> roadkill, there's a how to on the Tor website
[18:56] <roadkill> tor.com ?
[18:56] <scguy318> roadkill: tor.eff.org
[18:56] <Lifeisfunny> hey, something like that
[18:56] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: and after it corrects the clocks (takes several minutes to do so), I run /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh, if I don't do this, I would find the clock lagging again after gutsy crashes (crashing is another story, anyways, if I don't do this hwclock.sh reload, I find the time lagging by the same amount of hours when I booted up the first time)
[18:57] <adelie> I appear to be missing man pages for some commands, such as 'read', though there are man pages listed online. How do I install such missing man pages. (apt-get install bash-doc installed something, but not the 'read' man page)
[18:57] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  you are actually powering down? not doing a suspend or hibernate?
[18:57] <erUSUL> AnAnt: what timezone do you use?
[18:57] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: yes , powering down
[18:57] <AnAnt> erUSUL: EET
[18:58] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  well i am out of ideas. :()
[18:58] <erUSUL> AnAnt: and what is the error in hours you get? is it allways the same?
[18:58] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  i wonder.. leave it off for like exactly 1 hr. and see how much time it loses.. :)
[18:58] <AnAnt> erUSUL: once it was 10 hours
[18:59] <CarlFK> how do I tell vncviewer what port to connect to if the server is not listening on the default 5900?
[18:59] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  the time lost is like random?
[18:59] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: not sure about that, but it is not the amount of hours that it was left shut
[18:59] <Dr_willis> CarlFK,  vncviewer --help -->    vncviewer [parameters] -listen [port] [parameters]
[18:59] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: for example today i shut it at about 11:30 AM
[19:00] <CarlFK> Dr_willis: no help.  connect <> listen
[19:00] <Dr_willis> AnAnt,  just never shut it off.. :)
[19:00] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: when I rebooted it after about 7 hours, it was 12:30 AM
[19:00] <AnAnt> Dr_willis: rebooted = power it on
[19:00] <insllvn> Pici thanks for the help I will try from the live CD
[19:01] <Pici> insllvn: good luck
[19:01] <Dr_willis> CarlFK,  huh? the vncvlient connects to the port the server is listening to... unless someone is confusing terms on me again. :)
[19:01] <CarlFK> Dr_willis: how will it know which port the server is listening on?
[19:02] <netrat> 5900 is the default port for VNC
[19:02] <Pici> CarlFK: use `vncveiwer host:screennum` or `vncviewer host portnum`
[19:02] <Dr_willis> CarlFK,  you tell the client what port the server is using. , of course it starts at 5900 and goes up by one for each instance/desktop normally.
[19:02] <Pici> clarezoe: check the vncviwer manpage
[19:02] <neko_> oops
[19:02] <neko_> i must have made some mistake
[19:02] <neko_> now
[19:03] <Pici> !enter | neko_
[19:03] <ubotu> neko_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:03] <CarlFK> Pici: unable to connect to host: Invalid argument (22)
[19:03] <Marcusklaas> hey pici where can i check out a list of bot commands?
[19:03] <neko_> Pici: OK - when i move things on my desktop, it duplicate files instead of just move them
[19:04] <CarlFK> Dr_willis: how do I "tell the client"? (5987 is the port the server is on)
[19:04] <erUSUL> !help
[19:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:04] <clarezoe> Pici, what's that,why
[19:04] <Dr_willis> CarlFK,   `vncviewer host 5987`
[19:04] <Dr_willis> work time for me. byeee
[19:04] <godzirra> Can anyone please help me?  I've got gutsy (ubuntu) and a snd_hda_intel card.  I followed method E at this url: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller ... My card shows up if I cat /proc/asound/cards, and dmesg shows no errors.  Alsamixer shows the device as turned up all the way, but I get no sound.
[19:05] <slash_linux> azz
[19:05] <aeonix> hello I have a Question about a game called Ragnarok
[19:05] <slash_linux> io bestia
[19:05] <Pici> clarezoe: er, sorry, I mistyped a dname
[19:05] <vnese> !lamp
[19:05] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:05] <Lifeisfunny> my mouse is acting funny.  erratic behavior when trying to highlight,  when I adjust the sound level on the volume control I can't grab the slide knob  (yeah yeah, I know I can 'wheel it')
[19:05] <Pici> CarlFK: oops, I misread the manpage.  Try doing host::22 (or whatever port)
[19:05] <xne> !fuck you
[19:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuck you - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:05] <turbocueca> respect
[19:06] <ankur> is there any restore command in ubuntu?
[19:06] <Marcusklaas> What's happening!?
[19:06] <clarezoe> godzirra, try add "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=6" in your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file and then reboot
[19:06] <erUSUL> ankur: restore?
[19:06] <verb3k> !language | xne
[19:06] <Pici> verb3k: hes gone
[19:06] <RHLinuxGUY> Is anything ever solved on this channel?
[19:06] <tacone> anyone with a dell xps ?
[19:06] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, like Windows "restore points"???  hahhaha
[19:06] <h1st0_> Ugh looking for ideas anytime I exit X or try switching to a tty while within X the system locks.
[19:06] <ankur> restor
[19:07] <ankur> yes
[19:07] <tacone> I can't configure my tv card
[19:07] <ubotu> xne: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:07] <h1st0_> There are no logs that point to anything at all.
[19:07] <aeonix> how do i run a game called Ragnarok in Wine?
[19:07] <Lifeisfunny> fat chance
[19:07] <erUSUL> !appdb | aeonix
[19:07] <ubotu> aeonix: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[19:07] <Pici> aeonix: please ask in #winehq, if you have trouble getting wine installed, ask here.
[19:07] <Pici> Lifeisfunny: Please be constructive.
[19:07] <CarlFK> pici where to you see :: ?
[19:07] <Pici> RHLinuxGUY: Yes, questions get answered here all the time.
[19:07] <Marcusklaas> !foo
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <Pici> CarlFK: I dont, I remember it from another vnc client.
 how i restore
[19:07] <ompaul> !botabuse
[19:07] <neko_> noone have ever experienced this bug ? when i move something on the desktop it copy file instead of moving , and have to hold shift to make it act normal
[19:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:08] <nomojob> Can someone tell me how to remove my printer from "gnome-cups-manager"?  I found a bug report that should fix my problem but I dont even know what the "gnome-cups-manager" is.
[19:08] <aeonix> Wine does support Ragnarok but i dont know how to run it LOL
[19:08] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, all I've heard is through a backup
[19:08] <h1st0_> aeonix: people have answered you
[19:09] <ompaul> !wine | aeonix
[19:09] <ubotu> aeonix: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[19:09] <erUSUL> nomojob: System>Admin>Printers
[19:09] <nomojob> erUSUL: thank you
 u ever use putty?
[19:10] <Lifeisfunny> nope
[19:10] <nomojob> erUSUL: what does "cups" mean?
[19:10] <impact> lol
[19:10] <n00b> ok..when I try and change my visual effects I get this message
[19:10] <erUSUL> nomojob: common unix printer system
[19:10] <nomojob> erUSUL: aahhhh.  thanks again
 how u back up ubuntu
[19:10] <ankur> ?
[19:11] <ompaul> !backup | ankur
[19:11] <ubotu> ankur: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[19:11] <n00b> the software source package nvidia-glx is not enabled
[19:11] <n00b> how can I enable it
[19:11] <jimjam> Is there any way to have an account that does not use a password?
[19:11] <jimjam> Or have it auto-login?
[19:11] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, with some scripts
[19:11] <Pici> n00b: Open up System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager
[19:12] <ompaul> jimjam, system administration login window
[19:12] <n00b> and check the box..right?
[19:12] <santor_> hello
[19:12] <ankur> ohh ubuntu is very hard
[19:12] <nishiishii> n00b: Correct.
[19:12] <n00b> but I get the same message
[19:12] <ompaul> ankur, no it is not - you are just not used to it
[19:12] <kml> hello
[19:13] <Pici> n00b: You need to restart after you check the box and have it install
[19:13] <n00b> The software source for the package
[19:13] <n00b>    nvidia-glx
[19:13] <n00b>  is not enabled.
[19:13] <adelie> how do I get man pages for bash commands?
[19:13] <ankur> yap i think so
[19:13] <nishiishii> Oh
[19:13] <jimjam> Thanks ompaul.
[19:13] <n00b> but..what I mean is that it wont check
[19:13] <n00b> for me
[19:13] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, it's easy really, it does take some time to understand and get use to
[19:13] <ompaul> n00b, just pretend we are not here - click the box and follow instructions
[19:13] <erUSUL> adelie: man bash
[19:13] <{127> since the kernel update to version 2.6.22-14, kubuntu insists on trying to mount ntfs file systems with the fuse driver.
[19:13] <ZeroA4> adelie, man command ex man ls
[19:13] <ankur> thanks
[19:13] <n00b> ok
[19:14] <n00b> I will check it and restart
[19:14] <{127> is there any way to force it to use the old, readonly ntfs.ko driver instead?
[19:14] <alex__> hello. what's a good tool for ubuntu to sync with an online svn repository?
[19:14] <n00b> thanks for the help
[19:14] <Pici> adelie: help commandname
[19:14] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, hang in there, there's always someone around that would be happy to help
[19:14] <ankur> ok
[19:15] <jals> is there any way to limit the width of maximized windows?
[19:15] <erUSUL> ompaul: maybe n00b needs the deb-src repo?... (for some extrange reason i can't phanthom)
[19:15] <soundray> adelie: the best documentation is in the bash-doc package. Install it and read 'info bash'
[19:15] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, and if not, try some wikis.  they can be helpful
 i need help in using putty?
[19:15] <javaJake> ankur, the best way to create "restore" points would be packups
[19:15] <Profanephobia> Can Someone here help me connect my Sony Ericsson GC83 to AT&T's EDGE network?
[19:16] <Lifeisfunny> ankur, you might want to ask someone else, I've never had the need to learn putty
[19:16] <erUSUL> {127: edit fstab and put ntfs instead of ntfs-3g
[19:16] <javaJake> ankur, I've also used PuTTY. :)
[19:16] <ompaul> ankur, putty is a windows program - please ask in ##windows or search the net it is not core to ubuntu so we really can't support it
[19:16] <soundray> ompaul: putty is available for Linux
[19:16] <erUSUL> !info putty
[19:16] <soundray> !info putty
[19:16] <noelferreira> how can i synchronize my pda with gutsy?
[19:16] <ubotu> putty: Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.60-1 (gutsy), package size 302 kB, installed size 744 kB
[19:16] <adelie> soundray: I installed it, but it still doesn't give me the man page for 'read'
[19:16] <ompaul> wow - why - we have ssh
 i cant connect another server from lan
[19:16] <Pici> ompaul: there is a ubuntu client (but its really not needed)
[19:16] <{127> i have ntfs there. still, it tries to use the fuse stuff. and fails
[19:16]  * ompaul head desks
i m under a proxy server
[19:17] <Pici> ompaul: Host management I guess /me shrugs
[19:17] <soundray> adelie: 'info bash', then hit / and enter 'read'
[19:17]  * ompaul goes to do work on a car
[19:17] <ompaul> back in a bit
[19:17] <Twey> Or man bash
[19:17] <javaJake> ankur, OK, are you on the same local network as your server?
[19:17] <Pici> adelie: use the syntax `help read`
[19:17] <Profanephobia> Can Someone here help me connect my Sony Ericsson GC83 to AT&T's EDGE network?
i need to explain my network
pls listen
[19:18] <noelferreira> how can i synchronize my pda with gutsy?
[19:19] <soundray> noelferreira: what kind of PDA?
[19:19] <noelferreira> soundray: qtek 9100
[19:19] <afpac> Hello, after rebooting into a newly installed ubuntu gutsy gibbon i get sync out of range on my monitor. I set up the correct sync rates after running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in rescue mode but the problem is back after a reboot :(
[19:19] <soundray> noelferreira: more generally
[19:20] <javaJake> ankur, will do
[19:20] <soundray> noelferreira: what OS does it run?
[19:20] <javaJake> ankur, join me in #ankur-javaJake if you want. It'll be quieter there. :)
[19:20] <noelferreira> wm5 soundray.
[19:21] <soundray> noelferreira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[19:21] <noelferreira> thanks soundray
[19:21] <{127> mount -o ro -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 complains about fuse. i do not see why the non--3g-version of the ntfs driver would need fuse
 i use internet from lan. my lan connection is connected through a proxy server .that is also in local network and that proxy server connected the main server from where i get internet facility. i cant use putty from my lan
[19:21] <soundray> {127: what's the complaint?
[19:22] <excitatory> so i'm attempting to setup dual displays..  on a fresh gutsy install, xrandr reports both of my monitors with accurate details.  after i install the restricted ati driver, xrandr only reports one screen.. is this normal?  should i use the free driver?  is there a good guide for this?
 what is the main peoblem?
 u understand my network?
[19:22] <javaJake> ankur, OK, so are you trying to get to another computer elsewhere on the internet, or to a computer in the same LAN as you?
[19:22] <javaJake> ankur, kind of
[19:23] <CarlFK> pici  ::  worked.  turns out the server wasn't on the port I thought it was.    thanks
[19:23] <musashi1>  is there anyway to know if qwest blocks incoming traffic on specific ports - namely port 443 - other than just asking them (i wonder if they will even answer that)
i m trying to get to another computer elsewhere on the internet,
[19:24] <pat69a> :-(
but from lan i cant do that?
[19:25] <adelie> ok, after trying the various suggestions, man bash followed by '/' and using `read' for the search paramater. the word read otherwise showed up several MANY times in the document. help gave information about read command, but not arguments to. Thanks for help all
 what kind of problem is it?
[19:25] <soundray> adelie: not man bash -- info bash
[19:25] <musashi1> ankur: i didn't catch the whole story but putty can use a local proxy.
[19:25] <soundray> adelie: lookup builtins rather than read
[19:25] <javaJake> ankur, OK, so it isn't your network
[19:25] <akang> how can I tell the ppp connection uptime ?
[19:26] <soundray> adelie: http://www.ss64.com/bash/read.html might help, too
 no
[19:26] <javaJake> ankur, instead you need to configure PuTTY for your proxy.
[19:26] <{127> isoundray: t works when i have loaded the fuse module, but it does not give me the intendet driver.
[19:26] <mjbrooks> my laptop seems to randomly die and reboot itself :/ There doesn't seem to be anything in the logs... does that mean it's some sort of kernel panic that's going on?
[19:26] <{127> mount shows the system as "type fuseblk"
[19:26] <{127> and lsmod | grep ntfs
[19:27] <{127> returns ntfs                  108096  0
[19:27] <firefight96> hello
 i configure proxy in putty but not even work
[19:27] <{127> so noone is using the ntfs.ko driver
 can i give u pm?
[19:27] <javaJake> ankur, yes please
[19:28] <adelie> soundray: ss64 was how I knew there had to be a man page  :)
[19:29] <adelie> oh, is there a way to check to see if an enviromental variable has a null value? expr length $foo returns a syntax error and never 0
[19:29] <adelie> I think that about covers all my hair pulling frustrations today  :)
[19:29] <Gate> anyone have a fix for the sound on a new macbook using an Intel 82801H?
[19:29] <elvelind> hi. Have anybody here managed to get Muine working on Gutsy?
[19:30] <soundray> !intelhda | Gate
[19:30] <ubotu> Gate: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:30] <clever[rev]> adelie: one way to check that $foo is null is to test if x$foo matches x
[19:30] <Gate> thanks soundray!
[19:30] <clever[rev]> adelie: ive seen bits like that in alot of scripts
[19:31] <Zaehlas> Hello, I had an error with the 64 bit version upgrade of 7.10.  The update manager package failed, and now there's no way for me to upgrade my system.  It says everything is up to date, even though it isn't.  Is there any way to force the upgrade to run again, or look through the logs to fix the failed package?
[19:32] <wallsp> hello friends
[19:32] <javaJake> !pm | ankur
[19:32] <ubotu> ankur: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[19:32] <javaJake> ankur, nvm
[19:32] <javaJake> :D
[19:32] <wallsp> I know ubuntu is quite funny, but perhaps is it after all usable nowdays for serious business?
[19:32] <javaJake> ankur, PMs won't work if you are registered, btw
[19:32] <slaytanic> Any suggestions for TextMate-like apps?
[19:32] <Pici> !register | ankur
[19:32] <ubotu> ankur: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[19:32] <adelie> clever[rev] thanks
[19:32] <javaJake> wallsp, just about.
[19:32] <Dynalon> Zaehlas: try the console version: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[19:33] <Profanephobia> how can i tell pppd to go into debug mode?
[19:33] <{127> okay, i have solved my problem :-)
[19:33] <alex__> hello is there a tool for gnome that allows remote svn browsing on ubuntu?
[19:34] <soundray> Profanephobia: edit /etc/ppp/options and remove the # from the line #debug
[19:34] <{127> /sbin/mount.ntfs points to /bin/ntfs-3g
[19:34] <Profanephobia> soundray, beautiful, thank you
[19:34] <soundray> {127: how?
[19:34] <javaJake> alex__, try opening a file window, and type svn:///<address> in the location bar
[19:34] <Zaehlas> Dynalon OK, I'll try that real quick, and see what happens.
[19:34] <soundray> {127: oh
[19:34] <javaJake> alex__, not sure if that'll work
[19:34] <soundray> {127: good to know, well done & thanks
[19:34] <jals> is there any way to limit the width of maximized windows?
[19:34] <{127> after removing it, everything works fine :-)
[19:34] <wallsp> C, C++, Java ; PHP Python ; new LCDs and Radeons and NVidia GFX with 3d ; 3d games (gfx drivers) ; printers and misc drivers ; <-- can Ubuntu handle all this?  which version stabl/test/unstabl, and which extra ripos?
[19:34] <soundray> Profanephobia: note there is also a kdebug option
[19:35] <Profanephobia> k
[19:35] <punzada> http://xkcd.com/149/ lawl
 u dont ans my question
[19:35] <alex__> javaJake, thanks
[19:35] <{127> personally, i think it is not a good idea to force the fuse ntfs driver on people in such a way
[19:35] <{127> but then again
[19:35] <javaJake> ankur, I'm not receiving your questions.
[19:35] <Zaehlas> Dynalon, Thanks, it may be proceeding.  I have to watch for errors, but I'll stay in the room.
[19:35] <javaJake> !register | ankur
[19:35] <ubotu> ankur: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
 ok say in channel
[19:36] <{127> i should have checked for a /sbin/mount.ntfs long ago...
[19:36] <javaJake> ankur, join #ankur-javaJake
[19:36] <{127> bye
[19:36] <javaJake> ankur, it'll eb the same as PMing
[19:37] <Profanephobia> soundray, does that output to syslog?
[19:37] <soundray> Profanephobia: I think so. I haven't touch these for a long time. If it's not in syslog, check /var/log/daemon.log
[19:37] <soundray> *touched
[19:37] <Profanephobia> k
[19:38] <Profanephobia> shoot debugging didnt help
[19:38] <Profanephobia> gave me no extra info
[19:38] <soundray> Zaehlas: Dynalon's suggestion is somewhat risky. Better to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades and use the command line method for servers
[19:38] <soundray> Profanephobia: did you restart ppp?
[19:38] <jf> How do I check ubuntu install is 32 or 64 bit? Should uname tell me that?
[19:39] <Pici> jf: uname -a should tell you
[19:39] <soundray> jf: yes, uname -a
[19:39] <Profanephobia> soundray, oh :D might want to do that huh.. is it in init.d you think?
[19:39] <soundray> Profanephobia: not sure. If not, do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:39] <jf> Ok, i686 is the only thing I see. That means 32, right?
[19:39] <VSpike> does anyone else find that usbview does not work in gutsy?
[19:39] <soundray> jf: yes
[19:39] <mengzihan> hello
[19:39] <jf> Great.
[19:39] <mjbrooks> my laptop seems to randomly die and reboot itself :/ There doesn't seem to be anything in the logs... does that mean it's some sort of kernel panic that's going on?
[19:40] <jf> Preinstalled ubuntu on this new laptop :P
[19:40] <jf> direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set) :(
[19:40] <soundray> VSpike: yes. See if you can use lsusb and lshw instead
[19:40] <HashBox> mjbrooks: are you sure it isn't overheating?
[19:40] <jf> It's a x3100 (gm965).
[19:41] <soundray> VSpike: or System-Preferences-Hardware information
[19:41] <sanguisdex> I just install apachee using the package manager, when files are edited or created by apachee the files are own and in the group "www-data" how ever when I went to add my self to that group it did not exist.  how can I make it so my user can access these files w/o the SU access?
[19:41] <mjbrooks> HashBox, I don't believe it is
[19:41] <VSpike> soundray: yeah lsusb does the job, I agree
[19:41] <soundray> mjbrooks: prime candidate for such problems is bad RAM. Run memtest86 until it throws errors; if it doesn't, run it overnight.
[19:42] <mjbrooks> soundray, I'll do that thanks
[19:42] <soundray> VSpike: but it's clearly a bug. You might consider reporting it on launchpad.
[19:42] <Shadow147> I am compiling the Apple IIgs Emulator Kegs the xdriver.c file is giving me errors
[19:43] <Lecterts> how do i mount a cdrom drive from the shell
[19:43] <HellMind> Lecterts: google knows that better than anyone
[19:44] <soundray> Shadow147: xmess no use to you?
[19:44] <HellMind> How is called the purple-plugin-pack (for pidgin) on gutsy?
[19:44] <soundray> !info xmess-x | Shadow147
[19:44] <ubotu> shadow147: xmess-x: X binaries for the Multi Emulator Super System. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.106-2 (gutsy), package size 3940 kB, installed size 13788 kB
[19:44] <genii> Lecterts: Have a directory in mind to mount it to, or make a new one. then (sudo) mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mount/place
[19:45] <soundray> Shadow147: multiverse, oh well
[19:45] <macele> when trying to apply the quake 3 patch I get this error: The setup program seems to have failed on unknown/glibc-2.0... Any ideas?
[19:46] <macele> also this line: This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[19:46] <macele> (tried to run setup)
[19:46] <soundray> Lecterts: in a standard ubuntu install, sudo 'mount /media/cdrom0' should suffice
[19:46] <Shadow147> soundray I like kegs I have compiled it before
[19:46] <Zaehlas> soundray, saw your message, looking into that too.   Hopefully nothing blows up on me.   That would be bad.  =D
[19:47] <RoyK> hi
[19:47] <soundray> Zaehlas: it can probably  be fixed. If it's still at the downloading stage, it's safe to interrupt it now and follow the recommended approach
[19:47] <RoyK> how can I enable 3d effects?
[19:47] <shanky> I have just compile and install my own kernel because I need it to use a tv/sat card
[19:47] <shanky> how can I linux-restricted-modules?
[19:48] <Shadow147> soundray it's just xdrive.c is giving me problems
[19:48] <shanky> how can I get linux-restricted-modules?
[19:48] <h1st0_> Looking for ideas system is hard locking anytime I'm in X and I switch to a tty.  Or if I log out of my session it won't return to TTY just hangs.  I've checked logs but nothing is showing since the system just hangs.
[19:48] <Shadow147> xdriver.c
[19:48] <Zaehlas> soundray actually, I just went over that, and that is the method I used to start with (my 64 bit system is a server, with gnome added).  That is what failed, most of the way through the upgrade
[19:48] <RoyK> !3d
[19:48] <Zaehlas> soundray, using the apt-get is finishing the upgrade the tool started, at least it seems to be.  I'll try rerunning the tool to see if it cleans up the upgrade.
[19:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:49] <ompaul> ankur, why not write out your network description on paste.ubuntu-nl.org in some detail
[19:49] <xkalibur> new post: Looking to see how I can setup a compact flash bootable with ubuntu to install on a small device with a 2gb embedded 2gb drive... any advice?
[19:49] <soundray> Shadow147: I'm not the compilation wizard. It's not a dependency problem by any chance?
[19:49] <Shadow147> soundray it might be
[19:50] <soundray> Zaehlas: I wouldn't do that. Do some damage assessment first. If something doesn't work, the first thing to try is 'sudo apt-get dist-ugprade'
[19:50] <Pici> !install > xkalibur (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:50] <aeonix> ok no one in #wine was helpful
[19:50] <soundray> Zaehlas: sorry type
[19:50] <soundray> *typo
[19:50] <soundray> Zaehlas: I wouldn't do that. Do some damage assessment first. If something doesn't work, the first thing to try is 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[19:50] <Shadow147> I have pointed it to perl
[19:50] <cypher123> hi there, i have a strange problem: all file associations are gone. i can't open any files, because gnome forgot with which progam it should be opened. is there a way to recover those associations?
[19:50] <Shadow147> /etc/perl/
[19:51] <Sempron3800> ubuntu is pile of fresh monkey poop
[19:51] <Chuckles> how's that Sempron?
[19:51] <aro> Sempron3800: that's productive.
[19:51] <Zaehlas> soundray, last time I tried that, after the fail it said I was upgraded, that's why I came here for help, hehe
[19:51] <soundray> Sempron3800: too bad that's your conclusion. Can we help in any way?
[19:51] <Sempron3800> it sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksvv
[19:51] <Sempron3800> it sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksv
[19:51] <Sempron3800> it sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksit sucksv
[19:52] <kn4rF> lol
[19:52] <aro> Sempron3800: leave.
[19:52] <Zaehlas> soundray, not sure if the console upgrade method will fix what's wrong.  I really need to get into the logs at some point.
[19:52] <vnese> hi can any one show me the path/to/PEAR/package ? I m finding it
[19:52] <vnese> !pear
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <vnese> !PEAR
[19:52] <Zaehlas> soundray, havn't rebooted either since this happens.   Totally scared the system won't come back up
[19:52] <kn4rF> hello there.. does anyone know how to modify gconf-editor parameters directly from terminal?
[19:52] <Chuckles> How do I view a list of people in the room with XChat-gnome?
[19:52] <adelie> is it possible to throw to an enviromental variable?
[19:52] <Pici> Chuckles: you dont.
[19:52] <Shadow147> !kegs
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kegs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <soundray> Chuckles: click on "1237 users" in the lower left corner
[19:53] <Pici> soundray: oh.. I misunderstood the question.  I thought he wanted to ctcp version everyone.
[19:53] <Pici> adelie: you might want to try asking in #bash :)
[19:53] <Shadow147> soundray I just like simplicity ok kegs
[19:53] <h1st0_> Looking for ideas system is hard locking anytime I'm in X and I switch to a tty.  Or if I log out of my session it won't return to TTY just hangs.  I've checked logs but nothing is showing since the system just hangs.  Anyone know how I can troule shoot this.  I know its not hardware as the system worked fine with feisty.
[19:53] <adelie> thanks
[19:53] <Azrael24> hi guys...quick question, what version of LInux does 7.10/GG run off?
[19:53] <jac0b-work> can anyone recommend a linux compatible print server
[19:54] <Pici> Azrael24: if you mean the kernel, its 2.6.22-14
[19:54] <soundray> h1st0_: annoying. fglrx by any chance?
[19:54] <genii> Azrael24: what Pici said
[19:54] <jodie> can somebody help me set up stunnel please?
[19:54] <h1st0_> soundray: no its a sis card s3 savage
[19:54] <zippytech> what does the UUID=XXXXXXX.... mean in the fstab
[19:54] <Pici> !uuid | zippytech
[19:54] <ubotu> zippytech: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[19:54] <Azrael24> 2.6....great, thanks, trying to create a virutal drive for it on VirutalBox...I love it!
[19:54] <cypher123> hi there, i have a strange problem: all file associations are gone. i can't open any files, because gnome forgot with which progam it should be opened. is there a way to recover those associations?
[19:55] <soundray> h1st0_: oh, since when is sis=s3?
[19:55] <LiMaO> Azrael24: virutal? don't you mean virtual??
[19:55] <soundray> h1st0_: does it happen when you use the vesa driver?
[19:55] <h1st0_> soundray: my bad I thought they were the same.
[19:55] <kn4rF> does anyone know how to modify gconf-editor parameters directly from terminal?
[19:55] <zippytech> cool thanks
[19:55] <dinop007> hi all... how do i add smile to pidgin?
[19:55] <h1st0_> soundray: I haven't tried that. Let me check the xorg.conf and see if that will work.
[19:56] <soundray> h1sto_: it's possible that they are, I might have missed the news.
[19:56] <h1st0_> soundray: actually it is using the vesa driver now.
[19:56] <dinop007> how do i add smile to pidgin
[19:56] <jodie> can somebody help me set up stunnel please?
[19:56] <h1st0_> soundray: should I try a specific savage driver?
[19:56] <soundray> h1st0_: sec
[19:57] <Azrael24> virtualbox.org
[19:57] <Zaehlas> soundray, one last question, I think the upgrade may have completed, when I now run apt-get dist-upgrade it says no new releases.  When I run the do-release-upgrade it says no new releases.  And when I run apt-get update/upgrade it reads all the package lists properly, and says no new packages.  Is there any way to have it reverify my existing packages, to check all of them for possible errors?
[19:57] <h1st0_> soundray: I know i'm using the savagefb driver for tty but that doesn't make a difference if I turn it on or off.
[19:57] <Azrael24> tried vmware, bleh
[19:57] <Azrael24> wanted to run Ubuntu within XP, and run XP within Ubuntu (work and home)
[19:57] <Chuckles> where is init.d?
[19:57] <h1st0_> Chuckles: /etc
[19:58] <cypher123> hi there, i have a strange problem: all file associations are gone. i can't open any files, because gnome forgot with which progam it should be opened. is there a way to recover those associations?
[19:58] <h1st0_> Azrael24: check out virtualbox
[19:58] <Chuckles> is it hidden i dont see it :/
[19:58] <dinop007> how do i add smile to pidgin
[19:58] <Azrael24> I typed that, h1st0...I suggested it  ;]
[19:58] <Azrael24> oh I see..it's your response to wmware
[19:58] <Azrael24> vmware...totally agree, virtualbox is the way to go
[19:59] <zippytech> i rebooted my machine and now it want maintence mode, i tryr to run fsck and it says device or resource busy
[19:59] <zippytech> any ideas
[19:59] <h1st0_> Chuckles: its there.
[19:59] <soundray> h1st0_: man savage may help (from the package xserver-xorg-video-savage)
[19:59] <h1st0_> /etc/init.d
[19:59] <Shadow147> it would help if I pointed the vars file to the right perl location
[19:59] <Zaehlas> Chuckles, if you're using the graphical file browser, start from "File System" on the left, etc should be there, shouldn't be hidden.
[19:59] <boris_> how do i blacklist modules ?
[19:59] <h1st0_> soundray: I'll give it a try and see don't have much to lose at this point.
[19:59] <Chuckles> ls -l init.d in terminal shows nothing
[19:59] <h1st0_> boris_: add them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:59] <dinop007> how do i add smile to pidgin
[19:59] <dinop007> how do i add smile to pidgin
[19:59] <zippytech> filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program
[20:00] <h1st0_> Chuckles: ls -l /etc/init.d
[20:00] <h1st0_> Chuckles: or locate init.d
[20:00] <Chuckles> ls -l init.d
[20:00] <Chuckles> oops :)
[20:00] <Shadow147> damn it
[20:00] <Shadow147> I have compiled it before
[20:01] <Pici> !patience | dinop007
[20:01] <shbla99> whats a good binary newsreader that supports SSL NNTP servers?
[20:01] <ubotu> dinop007: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:01] <Pici> dinop007: also ask in #pidgin
[20:01] <wallsp> damn
[20:02] <wallsp> ubuntu sucks totally
[20:02] <dinop007> Pici: k =/ my friend got so cute smile! and i need it!!!!!!!!! it is so cute!!!!!!%%!@#$%$%^$%^%
[20:02] <shbla99> ^^ sucks if u don't know how to use it
[20:02] <wallsp> booted 7.04 totally fails to use my LCD
[20:02] <soundray> h1st0_: if you're using the framebuffer kernel driver, it's also worth trying out the fbdev xorg driver
[20:02] <shbla99> wallsp: learn
[20:02] <wallsp> live cd of ubuntu booted to some shitty 800x600 mode, that is totally unusable for my LCD
[20:02]  * genii curls up and dies from the uber-cuteness
[20:02] <wallsp> and do not offer other modes
[20:02] <Pici> wallsp: Not every piece of hardware is supported by the LiveCD.
[20:02] <vnese> Hi, how can i get kool fonts suitable for programming like Consolas in Ubuntu ?
[20:03] <Chuckles> is it ok to use apt-get or should i always use add/remove apps?
[20:03] <wallsp> Pici: its an LCD, not NASA rocket
[20:03] <soundray> Chuckles: they are totally exchangeable
[20:03] <shbla99> wallsp: live distro suck. install it
[20:03] <wallsp> how to make ubuntu to show something usable in liecd?
[20:03] <wallsp> shbla99: can't - the LCD do not work
[20:03] <Pici> wallsp: There is only limited space on the LiveCD, not every driver can exist there.
[20:03] <shbla99> wallsp: live distro = linux recovery
[20:03] <Pici> !fonts | vnese
[20:03] <ubotu> vnese: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[20:03] <wallsp> Pici: LCDs auto detect
[20:03] <Chuckles> is openssh-server the ssh daemon?
[20:04] <shbla99> wallsp: do the alt. install cd
[20:04] <soundray> Chuckles: yes
[20:04] <Chuckles> ty!
[20:04] <Pici> wallsp: Its most likely the video card thats causing issues.
[20:04] <genii> Chuckles: You should be able to use either way, as you like. but on occasion the apt-get way does a better job
[20:04] <wallsp> sigh this sucks
[20:04] <Pici> wallsp: Do you know what model you have?
[20:04] <wallsp> well I will try
[20:05] <Chuckles> thanks.  1st thing i want on my new ubuntu install is to be able to ssh from work so i can practice in console :)
[20:05] <h1st0_> soundray: That seemed to work now.  Using the savage drive.  I also noticed there is an option in there to usefbdev true in the video card section of the Xorg.conf
[20:05] <shbla99> wallsp: try the text mode installer
[20:05] <fuller_> ciao
[20:05] <shbla99> unless u wanna edit xorg.conf
[20:05] <wallsp> Pici: yes, WD 240 D
[20:05] <Pici> wallsp: Thats your video card?
[20:06] <zippytech> fsck.ext3: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdb1
[20:06] <zippytech> Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?
[20:06] <wallsp> shbla99: ok I will try
[20:06] <wallsp> Pici: geforce
[20:06] <wallsp> hm ok I will try later
[20:06] <shbla99> wats a wd
[20:06] <bjames> I've installed something (don't ask me what) and now I have loads of KDE crap in my "Applications | Other" menu (I'm on ubuntu 7.10) - how do I find out where all this crap came from and remove it?
[20:06] <dinop007> Pici: pidgin channel is dead! btw in this day i made 2 people install ubuntu
[20:06] <wallsp> cu will try later then
[20:06] <RoyK> hi. I've enabled cube effects, but I want the cube to rotate like in the demo. how can I do that?
[20:06] <Pici> !ccsm | RoyK
[20:06] <ubotu> RoyK: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[20:06] <genii> zippytech: what does: mount|grep sdb1     report?
[20:07] <Chuckles> how do i make it so when i ssh to myself it doesnt ask for root password but instead a username?
[20:07] <bjames> RoyK Ctrl + Alt + left/right
[20:07] <shbla99> whats a good binary newsreader that supports SSL?
[20:07] <RoyK> Pici: I have, but I don't get the cubic view
[20:07] <bjames> RoyK: or Ctrl + Alt + drag mouse
[20:07] <Shadow147> hmm I wonder why kegs is not compiling now it did before
[20:07] <Pici> RoyK: you installed compizconfig-settings-manager?
[20:07] <genii> Chuckles: ssh -l name ip/place
[20:07] <the-killer> Hello all there are any Web pages builder under ubuntu ? like front page on windows ??
[20:07] <bjames> RoyK: (default key bindings)
[20:07] <zippytech> mothing
[20:07] <RoyK> Pici: I have that, but I want the cube to become more distant
[20:08] <zippytech> i took it out of fstab so i could boot
[20:08] <shbla99> the-killer: open-office
[20:08] <Pici> RoyK: you need to modify your settings then, thats what that tool does.
[20:08] <zippytech> it's a second drive i use for files
[20:08] <Chuckles> genii: can i make it so if someone ssh to my ip it doesnt ask for root and should only expect a username?
[20:08] <RoyK> Pici: I was just wondering which ones
[20:08] <Chuckles> this forum is going to make me so lazy
[20:08] <bjames> is there a log somewhere of what applications I have installed and when?
[20:08] <genii> Chuckles: It asks for whatever name they tried
[20:09] <h1st0_> soundray: Its doing some wierd things when seting the resolution in the Xorg.log
[20:09] <Chuckles> but just "ssh ip" asks for root pw
[20:09] <Pici> RoyK: I dont know off the top of my head, the folks in #compiz-fusion should know.
[20:09] <h1st0_> soundray: but it gets in to X faster with the fbdev gone
[20:09] <mathen> Can I force my desktop to higher resolution then what rightclicking will give me, somehow? :P
[20:09] <vile_maxim> the-killer: a wysiwyg editor?
[20:09] <Chuckles> can i disable root login?
[20:09] <genii> Chuckles: if right now it is asking you for root, that means the system you are sshing from is logged in as username root
[20:09] <Pici> Chuckles: it asks for the password for the username that you are currently using.
[20:09] <Chuckles> oh cuz i'm root in the console... i see
[20:10] <Pici> Chuckles: Whether or not that username exists or not.
[20:10] <genii> Chuckles: Exactly
[20:10] <the-killer> vile_maxim: i want to build a web pages .html .php ...
[20:10] <soundray> bjames: there are logs in /var/log/installer -- you have to 'sudo -i' to change into the directory and read the files.
[20:10] <r3r3> huhu
[20:10] <Shadow147> has anyone compiled kegs in the past?
[20:10] <Pici> !komposer | the-killer
[20:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about komposer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:10] <rxdeath> ok so we are trying to get sound working on a toshiba a110 laptop
[20:10] <Pici> !nvu | the-killer
[20:10] <ubotu> the-killer: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[20:10] <rxdeath> i've seen a number of help guides and none seem to work
[20:10] <Chuckles> so if i putty to my computer from a windows computer what will the ssh ask for then?
[20:10] <Creed> I have a question about BIND if anyone knows...dow do I add Authority records to my zone file? I have SOA set already, but network-tools.com reports no Authority records for my domain.
[20:10] <vile_maxim> the-killer: yeah, but there are difference approaches.
[20:10] <rxdeath> i'm on the latest ubuntu
[20:11] <bjames> soundray: cheers
[20:11] <genii> zippytech: So then the automount is not mounting it either, hopefully?
[20:11] <Creed> heh 1234 users in here
[20:11] <vile_maxim> the-killer: I think bluefish is a popular one
[20:11] <genii> zippytech: eg: the command mount|grep sdb1 does not report it mounted someplace like /media
[20:12] <zippytech> i can force it to mound
[20:12] <zippytech> t but there looks to be nothing on it
[20:12] <rxdeath> anyone have an ideas on things i forgot, i have emerged al lthe lastest alsa drivers and everything, but no sound
[20:12] <aeonix> im trying to install wireshark-0.99.6.u3p how do i do that?
[20:12] <rxdeath> emerge -uDNav wireshark
[20:12] <rxdeath> ah crap this is ubuntu
[20:12] <rxdeath> sorry
[20:12] <krammer> I am tryi to connect to google but i get a message stating firefox is already running  but it isnt how can i solve this matter?
[20:12] <Pici> aeonix: sudo apt-get install wireshark
[20:12] <vile_maxim> the-killer: there is one that the mozilla project put out then are taken over by the linode guy
[20:13] <genii> zippytech: Well, you can force fsck if you are sure its not actually mounted
[20:13] <aeonix> thanks
[20:13] <rxdeath> sysetm manager and find the process and kill it
[20:13] <krammer> tried that
[20:13] <Marcusklaas> Is any program multi platform until compiled?
[20:13] <rxdeath> thanks Pici i don't use ubuntu
[20:13] <Chuckles> ty ubuntu for making ubuntu!
[20:13] <kane77> krammer, kill all instances of firefox... wait a second and try again...
[20:13] <vile_maxim> the-killer: it's simular to front page
[20:13] <zippytech> how
[20:13] <rxdeath> yeah there must be another pid open for it
[20:13] <vile_maxim> the-killer: trying to dig up the name
[20:13] <krammer> how did you reply in red text?
[20:14] <Chuckles> ^6 a
[20:14] <bobo79> how can i setup a personal smtp server in ubuntu?/
[20:14] <zippytech> can i force fsck
[20:14] <rxdeath> lol
[20:14] <kane77> krammer, just type in the other persons nick ;)
[20:14] <krammer> lol
[20:14] <Chuckles> Chuckles red text
[20:14] <krammer> ok never new that after 6 months of being here
[20:14] <krammer> ty
[20:14]  * Marcusklaas roflz.
[20:14] <vile_maxim> the-killer: nvu
[20:14] <mandani> I installed LAMP ubuntu 7.10 and I installed the gnome desktop after the fact now when I try to open an application the title bar is showing up offscreen.  I can see the menu bar but the bar to move the window.
[20:14] <bobo79> how can i setup a personal smtp server in ubuntu?
[20:14] <piko> slm
[20:14] <the-killer> vile_maxim: thanks
[20:15] <piko> orda msiin
[20:15] <mandani> is out of sight
[20:15] <Tuplanolla> !hardy > Tuplanolla
[20:15] <cdizzle> is there an easy way (shell script?) to generate a HTML file that just links to every other file in the directory?
[20:15] <Chuckles> if i dont want ssh to listen on port 22 whats a good port to substitute?
[20:15] <genii> zippytech: Wow, checking manpage of fsck does not show --force option. I was certain there was one
[20:15] <deal_> How can I find my ip ? Wich I'm assigned from my DHCP server on local network ??
[20:15] <krammer> deal ipchicken
[20:15] <Chuckles> ifconfig
[20:15] <deal_> thanks krammer
[20:15] <boris_> after a reboot i always have to type 'sudo rmmod fglrx' and then restart X for newest driver to start functioning
[20:15] <vile_maxim> the-killer: it doesn't seem like ubuntu is packaging it
[20:15] <boris_> how can i automate it ?
[20:15] <kane77> mandani, use alt+dragging to move widow around...
[20:16] <vile_maxim> the-killer: let me see if I can find a package
[20:16] <deal_> Either ipconfig or ipchicken works
[20:16] <nomojob> My screensaver just came on and when I moved my mouse to bring back my desktop, EVERYTHING is running VERY slow and choppy.  What is the cause of that?
[20:16] <piko> orda miasin
[20:16] <deal_> trond@trond:~$ ipconfig
[20:16] <deal_> bash: ipconfig: command not found
[20:16] <piko> hadis seralla
[20:16] <daxroc> Does the divx codecs work with gutsy anyone know ?
[20:17] <Pici> deal_: ifconfig
[20:17] <offipso> nomojob: try seeing if xscreensaver is still running and killing it--perhaps something's busted with it
[20:17] <deal_> ahhhhh
[20:17] <deal_>  /shoooooot deal
[20:17] <Pici> !codec > daxroc (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:17] <zippytech> wonder how i can see if there is data on it
[20:17] <mandani> kane77, this does not seem to grab the window
[20:17] <Kakama5> Hey
[20:17] <Kakama5> I got a problem with my windows thingy
[20:17] <zippytech> i have never had this happen before with linux
[20:17] <nomojob> offipso: how do I check that?
[20:17] <Kakama5> there is an error that says "Windows cannot process the memory at 347qhaeuzfsdt34262"
[20:17] <Chuckles> windows thingy?  hah
[20:17] <kane77> boris_, if it's only the rmmod you can just blacklist the module.. (put the name of the module into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:17] <Kakama5> How does I fix?
[20:18] <kane77> mandani, it should if it's gnome...
[20:18] <offipso> nomojob: From a terminal you can type "killall screensaver". In a GUI look at, hm
[20:18] <Pici> !windows | Kakama5
[20:18] <ubotu> Kakama5: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[20:18] <offipso> nomojob: system/administration/system monitor
[20:18] <offipso> nomojob: sorry, I meant "killall xscreensaver"
[20:18] <vile_maxim> the-killer: looks like they changed the name again
[20:18] <Kakama5> well no one in the windows chat room knows anything
[20:18] <vile_maxim> the-killer: kompozer
[20:18]  * daxroc regrets installing crap-buntu yite 
[20:18] <Pici> Kakama5: And you thought that the Ubuntu channel was better suited?
[20:18] <Kakama5> yes
[20:18] <vile_maxim> the-killer: I haven't used this program is years... so good luck
[20:19] <shanky> after installing a custom kernel my hd is really slow
[20:19] <the-killer> vile_maxim: thanks downloading
[20:19] <shanky>  Timing buffered disk reads:    6 MB in  3.90 seconds =   1.54 MB/sec
[20:19] <Kakama5> you are all computer geeks, right?
[20:19] <piko> orda mkisin
[20:19] <mandani>  kane77, at some point I had a message say windows manager was not running.
[20:19] <eddy> Intel never made a driver for my shared memory 3d card, does that mean no one ever will?
[20:19] <mandani> would this have been part of the gnome install?
[20:19] <Pici> Kakama5: Its offtopic for this channel.
[20:19] <shanky> is just a question of hdparm settings or could be something wrong in the kernel config?
[20:19] <Odd-rationale> Kakama5: LOL I'll have to quotu you on that. :)
[20:20] <bobo79> can someone tell me about ubuntu vs. debian?
[20:20] <Kakama5> lol I bet you will.
[20:20] <Kakama5> Oh fuck it, forget it
[20:20] <Pici> !debian | Odd-rationale
[20:20] <ubotu> Odd-rationale: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[20:20] <eddy> debian is like 20 cds big
[20:20] <Kakama5> trolling here is boring
[20:20] <Kakama5> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[20:20] <astevens> Kakama5: sad to see people like yourself thinking were here to help anyone anytime for the hell of it. the channel is #ubuntu at least try to keep it to linux. If you can afford a several hundred dollar Operating System, you can likely buy support
[20:20] <astevens> ahh dang i missed him, hehe
[20:20] <The_Machine> what's the point of facebook?
[20:20] <jac0b-work> does anyone use the usbb2k skype device
[20:20] <The_Machine> anyone?
[20:20] <Odd-rationale> Pici: It wasn't me!!
[20:20] <piko> slm
[20:20] <piko> wat
[20:20]  * daxroc moving back to gentoo :) 
[20:20] <semba> I've just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, and my boot hangs with messages saying "hdb: lost interrupt".  I've tried the assorted kernel parameters: noacpi/nolacpi/irqpoll, but none make any difference
[20:20] <daxroc> thanks for those who helped
[20:21] <Odd-rationale> !debian | bobo79
[20:21] <ubotu> bobo79: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[20:21] <astevens> The_Machine: it was to make the guy who founded it feel cooler than the guy who founded myspace.
[20:21] <offipso> the_machine: facebook's usefulness is directly proportional to the number of friends you have
[20:21] <The_Machine> offipso, that makes sense
[20:21] <astevens> windows people need something to do since all their systems are good for is surfing the web ;)
[20:21] <semba> This seems like a repetition of Bug #78288, but the newer kernel versions suggested don't change anything. :-(
[20:21] <The_Machine> i just signed up on it because my cousin is on there
[20:21] <offipso> the_machine: aka it's not useful at all
[20:21] <The_Machine> and i thought he would update his life, etc. on some msg board
[20:21] <offipso> I have no friends.
[20:21] <The_Machine> aka myspace
[20:22] <The_Machine> and i'm like..  WTF is the purpose of this?
[20:22] <The_Machine> sure, "social networking"
[20:22] <astevens> linkedin.com is simular and i think is more useful for business
[20:22] <offipso> well, that would be a good reason to ask
[20:22] <The_Machine> but it feels retarded.
[20:22] <R3B3LX> newb question for u guys... i think... ummm my printer is not working.. i try to print something but after like 5minutes it says stopped
[20:22] <Pici> !offtopic | The_Machine
[20:22] <ubotu> The_Machine: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:22] <The_Machine> oh, sorry
[20:22] <The_Machine> heh
[20:22] <daxroc> what has myspace got to do with ubuntu
[20:22] <mandani> kane77, is there a way to add or restart the windows manager
[20:22] <kane77> that's OT for at least two screens :/
[20:22] <piko> yayayaya
[20:22] <astevens> thanks for the reminder Pici ;)
[20:22] <Pici> :)
[20:23] <daxroc> IMHO ubuntu is a bad introduction to linux
[20:23] <krammer> why do u say that
[20:23] <jac0b-work> daxroc: why do you think that
[20:23] <R3B3LX> any ideas? i mean its all plugged it but it just doesnt print.. ive installed it
[20:23] <Odd-rationale> daxroc: What would you reccomend?
[20:23] <daxroc> well its has its good points but its very lazy way to introduce people to linux
[20:24] <Chuckles> why daxroc?
[20:24] <kane77> astevens, I don't know if that was only trying to cause flame, but I'd have to disagree.. I'm ubuntu person, I love it, enjoy it, and use it as much as I can. however I'm not able to do video editing the way I can with Adobe Premiere/After Effects/Photoshop.
[20:24] <R3B3LX> !print
[20:24] <kazol> Is the default Ubuntu account administrator? (that has a lower level than root)?
[20:24] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[20:24] <Chuckles> Ubuntu has the easy install ever...
[20:24] <astevens> daxroc: you could learn more from installing gentoo or something, thats true, but if you want linux that just works and has a lot going for it, I would say you would be hard pressed to beat ubuntu
[20:24] <Chuckles> *easiest
[20:24] <Pici> kazol: The default account has sudo access.
[20:24] <krammer> daxroc this may help there are 6 to 12 million users now using ubuntu
[20:24] <Pici> !sudo | kazol
[20:24] <ubotu> kazol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[20:24] <kazol> Pici: I know that, but what's the default account type? administrator?
[20:25] <Goong> hello, does anyone know how to make ubuntu automatically switch to a dial up connection if your broadband internet connections fails?
[20:25] <daxroc> Its not easy to trac source its alot more comlicated and the package naming scheme could follow the actual software name a little closer no ?
[20:25] <jac0b-work> I disagree I think ubuntu is a good intro to linux
[20:25] <offipso> kazol: There's no 'administrator' user, but there is a superuser called root
[20:25] <Pici> kazol: It has no more user rights without using sudo than any other account does.
[20:25] <Chuckles> i'm using someone's nick :o
[20:25] <astevens> ubuntu will give any commerical GUI OS a run for the money. Im adeveloper at www.caoslinux.com and while we have a lightweight hpc (no gui) distro, for a gui, ubuntu is top choice.
[20:25] <kane77> kazol, it is user account with sudo permissions...
[20:25] <Odd-rationale> daxroc: What do you reccommend? Just curious...
[20:25] <krammer> Goong u have to manual configur
[20:25] <kazol> kane77: Is there a specific name for that?
[20:26] <Goong> Krammer do you think a script could do it?
[20:26] <daxroc> Odd-rationale: in what regard ?
[20:26] <Odd-rationale> daxroc: A good introduction to linux?
[20:26] <krammer> yes
[20:27] <kazol> Pici, offipso: Why is it necessary to switch to superuser each time? Is it 1. to prevent accidental sys file deletion and 2. prevent malware?
[20:27] <astevens> daxroc: does the aids quilt style of patching a kernel red had does better? or does suse and their yeasty yast make sense to you? remember apples and oranges.
[20:27] <jac0b-work> kazol: 1
[20:27] <kane77> kazol, don't know.. what about "sudoer" ?
[20:27] <Marcusklaas> su = r00t
[20:27] <Pici> kazol: read this link it makes a good argument:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[20:27] <kazol> jac0b-work: Just because of that??
[20:27] <jac0b-work> kazol: yeah basiclly
[20:27] <eclipse__> is there anything out there like fs-driver for vista?
[20:28] <kazol> That's kind of pointless.
[20:28] <kazol> I'd rather have it on permanently.
[20:28] <Pici> kazol: Did you read that link? Its not only for accidental usage, its for security.
[20:28] <jac0b-work> kazol: that is frowned upon
[20:28] <offipso> kazol: perhaps sudo -s will help. It puts you in a root shell
[20:28] <kazol> Pici: Oh, ok.
[20:28] <jimcooncat> I'm so used to sudo it just rolls off the fingers
[20:28] <dd> every nick is owned by someone else :(
[20:29] <daxroc> Odd-rationale: Scratch that , It is a great introduction, but would be nice once things are setup to use a source repo or something ?
[20:29] <kane77> jimcooncat, true :) although I'm using sudo -s more often now...
[20:29] <J_P> hi all
[20:29] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anyone tell me of a good program I could install to make my audio LOUDER
[20:30] <J_P> people, I did run "apt-get -f install" and show this :   libxdmcp6: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed
[20:30] <J_P>   xserver-xorg-core: Depends: x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0) but 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 is installed
[20:30] <jimcooncat> It won't help me from the old rm -rf /; I'd type the sudo automatically
[20:30] <J_P> How I solve that ?
[20:30] <Pici> daxroc: Not everyone wants to compile things just to get them to work.  and the source is available
[20:30] <jac0b-work> my first intro to linus was mandrake
[20:30] <jac0b-work> linux*
[20:30] <offipso> kazol: Did you see that? If you need to execute a ton of commands as root, just use sudo -s so you don't have to prepend 'sudo' every time you type a command
[20:30] <dd> did u turn up the sound in alsamixer?
[20:30] <Odd-rationale> daxroc: Perhaps for some. I like the ease of installing software though.
[20:30] <Wifi-Phreak> Yes I did and its still not loud enough dd
[20:31] <owain> what do you think about sudo su?
[20:31] <kazol> offipso: Ok, thanks, I was looking for the equivelent of "su" before.
[20:31] <owain> to open a root shell
[20:31] <daxroc> Pici: "Option" & there are minor speed enhancements not worth ranting about
[20:31] <eclipse__> is there anything out there like fs-driver for vista?
[20:31] <owain> is that bad practise?
[20:31] <jimcooncat> daxroc: that's why I switched from gentoo, just for the install speed of binaries
[20:31] <eth01> practice *
[20:31] <owain> thanks eth :P
[20:31] <Powaqqatsi> Does anyone know what directory FLTK gets installed in on ubuntu?  can't seem to find it via search
[20:31] <offipso> kazol: sudo -s is equivalent
[20:31] <attickid> anyone has ever installed a Tablet on ubuntu? ..
[20:31] <owain> not really an answer though...
[20:32] <eth01> owain: should be su - ?
[20:32] <owain> yeah
[20:32] <owain> sorry
[20:32] <owain> but sudo su -
[20:32] <daxroc> * speed enhancements of source compiled software
[20:32] <Odd-rationale> attickid: You mean get the tablet features to work? I have - in fiesty.
[20:32] <Wifi-Phreak> dd you know of any program I can use to make my audio louder?
[20:32] <owain> is there another way I should be doing that?
[20:32] <sake> jak włączyć firefoxa gdy nie mam X
[20:32] <eth01> owain: i'm a debian user :P
[20:32] <owain> hehe
[20:32] <kane77> !pl | sake
[20:32] <ubotu> sake: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[20:32] <owain> and I just saw someone said sudo -s anyways
[20:32] <offipso> attickid: I have a wacom pen tablet I've used in ubuntu. Not on the latest versions, but maybe a year before.
[20:33] <dd> whats a nice dark gnome theme?
[20:33] <attickid> Odd-rationale: yeah..It's actually working ..it moves around
[20:33] <owain> so I guess it makes little difference apart from saving a few key strokes...
[20:33] <attickid> Odd-rationale: but..when I pressure
[20:33] <J_P> anyone can help me ?
[20:33] <attickid> Odd-rationale: it just pastes anything I've written using the keyboard
[20:33] <kurnia> #jakarta
[20:33] <Powaqqatsi> anyone know how I can search my hard disk in ubuntu?  I've used the tracker search, and it says it finds things but I cant see any on the list.   also, the search method from the file browser doesnt find anything
[20:33] <eddy> my Intel i810 3d card isn't working although it has a driver, what do I do?
[20:33] <jimcooncat> J_P: yes
[20:33] <Odd-rationale> dd: Ubuntustudio
[20:34] <attickid> offipso:when I pressure it just pastes anything I've written using the keyboard..
[20:34] <daxroc> Powaqqatsi: open a terminal: sudo updatedb | locate file
[20:34] <nomojob> offipso: lol, I ended the process x-session-manager and it restart my comp.  hehe.
[20:34] <Powaqqatsi> thanks dax, will try
[20:34] <krammer> I am tired of entering my username and password for yahoo what is available ?
[20:34] <eclipse_> is there anything like fs driver for vista?
[20:34] <eclipse_> i want to open my linux files on vista
[20:34] <Marcusklaas> Hey could someone help me out? I mounted this external harddisk of mine to several folders. How do unmount it from the folders, but not the thing itself?
[20:34] <Odd-rationale> attickid: I haven't a clue.
[20:35] <Anubis> nubis: and it has to be under his name
[20:35] <Anubis> 12:31… TeknoJuce: okay i was gunna say i would have been nicer to you
[20:35] <Anubis> 12:32… TeknoJuce: i usually shaft him
[20:35] <offipso> attickid: I saw that, hm.. You might have to find some tutorials on getting the wacom pen tablet to work. When I did it it wa sa mess of editing the /etc/xorg/xorg.conf file, which configures the x window manager
[20:35] <Anubis> 12:32… Anubis: lol why?
[20:35] <Anubis> 12:33… TeknoJuce: cuz im gay like that so how does this get dcc to you then
[20:35] <Anubis> shit
[20:35] <Anubis> 12:33… Anubis: b
[20:35] <daxroc> eclipse_: use a smb share ?
[20:35] <offipso> nomojob: haha oops, now you see you don't want to kill that. X is the window manager
[20:35] <Anubis> my bad
[20:35] <Marcusklaas> Hey could someone help me out? I mounted this external harddisk of mine to several folders. How do unmount it from the folders, but not the thing itself?
[20:35] <kadakas> how can i edit the contents of a PDF file with Ubuntu ?
[20:35] <Anubis> buffer i/o err on device fdo, logical block 0, why does it say this when i finish booting the cd
[20:36] <attickid> offipso: I did it..mine is not wacom tho..but I did all that messy stuff..cause at begginning it didnt even move..
[20:36] <Anubis> ive installed before and never had this problem
[20:36] <jimcooncat> J_P: have you tried reinstalling libxdmcp6?
[20:36] <daxroc> sudo unmount /path/to/folder
[20:36] <pike_> Marcusklaas: sudo umount /media/mahardisk/  does that umount all mountpoints? i wouldnt expect that
[20:36] <daxroc> *umount
[20:36] <offipso> anubis: fd0 is your floppy drive.. Does the install hang here? It might be a warning you can ignore, saying it cannot use your floppy drive
[20:36] <Powaqqatsi> hmm still cant find it... does anyone know where libfltk1.1 is installed in ubuntu (got it via apt-get)?  need to put the path in my makefile but i cant find it for the life of me
[20:36] <Anubis> how do i ignore?
[20:36] <pike_> Anubis: maybe ctrl-c?
[20:36] <Marcusklaas> pike_ & daxroc: I'll try
[20:36] <dmckee> Anyone: Hard drive mounting error says that in line 8 of fstab is bad "can't find /mdeia/Basic in fstab or mtab .... what do I do?
[20:37] <offipso> attickid: Hmm. And you're sure you have the settings correct for the button presses? It sounds like it's interpreting what should be sensitivity as the middle mouse button
[20:37] <zippytech> hey
[20:37] <Anubis> i will try to turn it off in the bios
[20:37] <stefg> !fstab | dmckee
[20:37] <ubotu> dmckee: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:37] <DM|> is there a way to have the bootup not start a graphical display manager and go right to a console for login?
[20:37] <zippytech> i can boot the the ubuntu 7.10 cd and my files drive is readable
[20:37] <offipso> DM| : You'll want to edit the inittab file to set runlevel to 3, no t5
[20:37] <stefg> DM|: remove gdm as a startup service
[20:37] <DM|> thanks
[20:37] <dmckee> thank you ubotu
[20:37] <dinop007> how can i see the .haccess  files on my server?
[20:38] <zippytech> what would make it not usable in ubuntu
[20:38] <kelsin> Powaqqatsi: if it's from the libfltk1.1-dev package you can "dpkg -L libfltk1.1-dev" to find what files that package installed
[20:38] <daxroc> dinop007: what do you mean , edit
[20:38] <bamsamba> if i am connected to the internet through windows ICS how do I configure bittorrent clients to get through?
[20:38] <dinop007> daxroc: yes
[20:38] <stefg> offipso: look for your  /etc/inittab .... happy hunting :-)
[20:38] <jimcooncat> dinop007: ssh in?
[20:38] <Marcusklaas> pike_ & daxroc: You were right. It worked :) Thanks
[20:38] <bamsamba> i've tried everything including rtorrent, bittornado/curses and bittorrent nothing seems to have worked
[20:38] <attickid> affipso: xinput set-button-map "WizardPen Tablet" 1 2 0 <- yeah I've been testing changing that numbers randomly...it seems "1"=left click and first position to pressure
[20:38] <daxroc> dinop007: ls -la will display all files
[20:38] <bamsamba> :(
[20:38] <offipso> stefg: I wasn't the one who needed to set that file though..Heh
[20:39] <dinop007> jimcooncat: it is on remote server
[20:39] <ianm_> does pulseaudio work well in 7.10 ?
[20:39] <genii> back
[20:39]  * genii sips a coffee
[20:39] <daxroc> dinop007: nano /path/to/.htaccess
[20:39] <stefg> !upstart | offipso
[20:39] <ubotu> offipso: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[20:39] <J_P> jimcooncat: I try with apt-get install libxdmcp6 reinstall. But it show message: ... "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[20:39] <dinop007> k
[20:39] <genii> zippytech: Did you get the fsck thing sorted out yet?
[20:39] <Odd-rationale> If I encrypt my entire hard drive with the Gutsy alt install cd, does that mean I will not be able to access the files in my hard drive from a LiveCD?
[20:39] <offipso> attickid: I don't think I can help.. Perhaps there's a message board?
[20:40] <dd> how do you get the menu bar to show on a window you disabled the menu bar?
[20:40] <offipso> stefg: Ah. That's what your comment meant. There IS no inittab. I feel like I've lost something
[20:40] <cabroni_> any know a simple program to edit PDFs? (I think that Openoffice do it)
[20:40] <zippytech> no
[20:41] <attickid> offipso: ok:) thanks anyway..I might wait for them to answer then :) thank u anyway
[20:41] <genii> Odd-rationale: If you know the key you can still moun it
[20:41] <musashi1> does anyone know how to set up the ssh username and password in the dd-wrt firmware? i only see an option for auth keys and i haven't been able to get that to work either. in the sort term, user/pass would be nice.
[20:41] <holzmodem> hi, I compiled and installed compiz screensaver plugin successfull, but it dont want start, why? (kubuntu)
[20:41] <zippytech> everything i try it just say device busy
[20:41] <offipso> attickid: Good luck. I might not be a reliable source anyway as I b ought a Vista tablet PC, having found linux extremely lacking in graphical applications and pen tablet support
[20:41] <zippytech> i took the drive out of fstab and still same thing
[20:41] <Marcusklaas> Question: when install a program through apt-get install .. do you install it in your /home/username/ folder?
[20:41] <Odd-rationale> genii: How will that work? Just right-click -> mount and it will prompt me for the key?
[20:41] <zippytech> but drive works on cd boot
[20:41] <wressle> Anyone here with some dmraid knowledge? Running dmraid seems to work just fine, it reports my two disks as /dev/dm-0 500.1GB.. but I can't mount it (already mounted or /mnt/ busy although it is not.) Does anyone have a clue?
[20:42] <genii> zippytech: boot to Recovery, then try from there
[20:42] <genii> Odd-rationale: Did you use truecrypt or some other?
[20:42] <dinop007> how can i open rar file?
[20:43] <stefg> !rar | dinop007
[20:43] <zippytech> i can boot the system, it's the second data drive u cannot mount
[20:43] <ubotu> dinop007: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:43] <Marcusklaas> dinop007: you will have to download that first
[20:43] <dd> how do i get the file,edit,etc bar back on a window i disabled it on?
[20:44] <genii> zippytech: What i mean is, boot to Recovery, then try to run from there the fsck
[20:44] <offipso> dd: How did you disable it?
[20:44] <zippytech> ok
[20:44] <dd> under the profile editor, it's a console window, but i cant get there because the bar is gone :)
[20:45] <kelsin> dd right click
[20:45] <pike_> dinop007: use nonfree not free
[20:45] <offipso> dd: Ah, right click and click show menubar
[20:45] <dd> ah rightclick IN the window not on the title bar
[20:45] <krammer> I am tired of entering my username and password for yahoo what is available ?
[20:45] <offipso> dd: I thought you did something with "devilspie," or something trickier
[20:45] <offipso> krammer: all the solutions would probably tire you out more than typing in your username and password in yahoo
[20:46] <mathen> Anyone know if I can find a program called "Jdeveloper" for Ubuntu 7.10?
[20:46] <dd> this place is so helpful
[20:46] <offipso> krammer: can't firefox remember the password?
[20:46] <krammer> offipso i know there is a kde wallet
[20:46] <Marcusklaas> DD: DID YOU MEAN THAT!?
[20:46] <dd> i tried slackware and there forum was way too cool to help me
[20:46] <dd> *their
[20:46] <Marcusklaas> we're trying
[20:46] <ianm_> anyone using pulseaudio?
[20:46] <dmckee> Is there a shortcut for switching workspaces? (aka desktops)
[20:46] <krammer> offipso: no
[20:47] <dmckee> I thought there used to be alt+F1 ,F2, F3... but not anymore?
[20:47] <offipso> dd: slackware is all about making you suffer
[20:47] <offipso> dmckee: you can see what is bound to those keys in system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[20:47] <kelsin> mathen: looks like you can download it on the oracle website, just needs a java jdk, so "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jdk" then download and follow their instructions
[20:48] <ianm_> dmckee: ctrl-alt-left/right don't work?  you can set it in key binding preferences
[20:48] <genii> Odd-rationale: If you used stock encrypt from the install, then from livecd do: sudo apt-get install cryptsetup  then try to mount it, wherein it will ask for the passphrase
[20:48] <mgtd> Hallo
[20:48] <dd> offipso: i sure did, it took a day just to get a GUI
[20:48] <dmckee> oh, very good offipso! thank you
[20:48] <offipso> dmckee: No problem
[20:48] <mathen> Thanks kelsin, I'll give it a try
[20:48] <offipso> dd: it'd take longer than a day to get someone in the IRC forum to help you install a GUI... They just sit around, mostly silent, and insult you when they muster the energy
[20:49] <dd> lol yup
[20:50] <Marcusklaas> what shell command lets me see my in-network Ip adress?
[20:50] <offipso> dmckee: If you're really enterprising, you can use gconf-editor to bind custom commands to custom keypresses.. e.g., I have ctrl ~ open up a console, and ctrl 1 open up an editor on a sort of scratchpad file for taking notes
[20:50] <Anubis> buffer i/o err on device fdo, logical block 0, i have no floppy driver how can i bypass this
[20:50] <kelsin> Marcusklaas: ifconfig
[20:50] <Marcusklaas> if?
[20:50] <Marcusklaas> not ip?
[20:50] <offipso> if for interface
[20:50] <Marcusklaas> ah jup
[20:50] <Marcusklaas> thanks
[20:50] <gnychis> is the commercial repository up yet?
[20:50] <offipso> Microsoft had to be different
[20:51] <eroticon> hi folks
[20:51] <eroticon> which driver should i choose for a nVidia Corporation C51 video card_
[20:51] <reportingsjr> Is there any reason why I would get reduced screen resolutions after restarting?
[20:51] <eroticon> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[20:51] <stefg> Anubis: check your /etc/fstab and delete the line relating to /dev/fd0, if there is any
[20:51] <xilvr> hi
[20:51] <reportingsjr> I used to be able to use 1024x768 max (I know)
[20:51] <mathen> kelsin, I wrote as you said
[20:51] <fve> hello
[20:51] <reportingsjr> but now it's down to 800x600, which is painful for me
[20:51] <mathen> and Now I'm in some kind of manual. And it says <ok> but I can't press anything
[20:51] <mathen> any suggestions?
[20:51] <fve> help
[20:52] <kelsin> mathen: should be able to tab to ok and hit enter, probably the java license accept screen?
[20:52] <Anubis> stefg im booting the cd so i can install
[20:52] <xilvr> i'm german and ubuntu is well translated, but openoffice is in english - do anyone know where i can find language packs?
[20:52] <offipso> reportingsjr: does it not go any higher in the system/preferences/screen resolution?
[20:52] <dmckee> anyone have a minute to PM me about hard drive permissions/access? I'm sure what I need to correct in fstab...
[20:52] <reportingsjr> mathen: In terminal? Try the left or right buttons.
[20:52] <mathen> cool thanks, works now
[20:52] <mathen> tab did it reportingsjr
[20:52] <reportingsjr> offipso: Yeah, thats what I'm working from
[20:52] <stefg> !fixres | reportingsjr
[20:52] <ubotu> reportingsjr: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:52] <reportingsjr> stefg: Thanks! I'll try that :)
[20:52] <fve> he people i ask for help !!
[20:53] <zstars> Hey ppl, is there an apt-get command in ubuntu?
[20:53] <Anubis> sudo apt-get
[20:53] <dd> yup
[20:53] <xilvr> yeah
[20:53] <offipso> reportingsjr: I had the same problem when I first installed ubuntu; it wasn't giving me anything higher than 1024x768. I had to edit the /etc/xorg/xorg.conf file and list some extra modes in my monitor and graphic device sections.. You'll probably want info open in a window or saved to a file if you try that route
[20:53] <stefg> xilvr: sudo apt-get install language-support-de
[20:53] <offipso> bah
[20:53] <xilvr> is that for open office, stefg?
[20:54] <mathen> kelsin, I've installed now. What should I now do to get Jdev?
[20:54] <wressle> Anyone here with some dmraid knowledge? Running dmraid seems to work just fine, it reports my two disks as /dev/dm-0 500.1GB.. but I can't mount it (already mounted or /mnt/ busy although it is not.) Does anyone have a clue?
[20:54] <stefg> xilvr: that's a meta-package that will install language support for all default apps
[20:54] <andrej6> hi
[20:54] <kelsin> mathen: go to oracle's site and follow their instructions, I don't have the time to walk you through step by step
[20:54] <EdwardXP> someone wants to know my computers specs graphics cardwise and ram space everything how do i get that information from ubuntu
[20:54] <kadakas> lshw
[20:54] <xilvr> thank you, stefg
[20:55] <tech_> et
[20:55] <mathen> What's their page atleast, kelsin  :P
[20:55] <xilvr> it just download some files right now
[20:55] <offipso> edwardxp: try system/preferences/hardware information
[20:55] <dmckee> fstab --under # /dev/sdc2 -- line 8 reads "UUID=4248BA1848BA0AA5 /media/Basic" but Basic can not be found. how can I correct line 8 so I can access the drive?
[20:55] <tdoggette> The sound on my computer is much quieter on my Gutsy install than WinXP SP2. On Ubuntu, maximum volume is about normal listening volume, and the same volume can be acheived under windows at 20 or 30 percent of max. My sound card is integrated ICH9 "HD Audio." How can I make it louder?
[20:55] <zkjellberg> Question: How do I install mp3 support for Rythymbox?
[20:55] <kelsin> mathen: I think google can help you fast thean I can to find the jdeveloper home page
[20:55] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! What is the most efficient way of running Office2007 under Ubuntu 7.10? Thanks
[20:55] <xilvr> wtf it seems to work, stefg, love you ^^
[20:55] <stefg> !uuid | dmckee
[20:55] <ubotu> dmckee: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[20:56] <pike_> K_Dallas: crossover office which is pretty much wine
[20:56] <pike_> or just wine
[20:56] <offipso> K_Dallas: Run vmware and have windows running at the same time, is my guess
[20:56] <offipso> does wine really run office 2007?
[20:56] <K_Dallas> pike_, does it run office2007 as well?
[20:56] <syngin001> crossover is the way to go
[20:56] <xilvr> cause i just googled for language packs, but in the boards they posted there aren't languagepacks and "you've to install the local version completely new"
[20:57] <xilvr> anyway, thank you stefg
[20:57] <stefg> !intelhda | tdoggette
[20:57] <ubotu> tdoggette: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:57] <zkjellberg> Question: How do I install mp3 support for Rythymbox?
[20:57] <reportingsjr> stefg: Thank you so much!!
[20:57] <K_Dallas> syngin001, i havent tcheked them latelty so i thought it run only office2003
[20:57] <offipso> Office 2007 is pretty impressive...I haven't tried crossover, but if it's anything like openoffice, it can't stand up to it
[20:57] <darrend> anyone using intel X3100 graphics? There's a lot of stuff online about compiz not working properly with it, but some info seems contradictory
[20:57] <tdoggette> ubotu, thanks.
[20:57] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[20:57] <offipso> unless it actually runs 2007?
[20:57] <Brucevdk> I just bought a new hard disk for my laptop, it's a Seagate Momentus (ATA) and after a few hours of house it's already up to 160 load cycles. I can hear the hard disk make a grinding noise once every minute and this increases the load cycle count. My previous disk only seemed to increase load cycles when restarting (or similliar). What could be the problem?
[20:58] <EdwardXP> how do i find out how many mega bytes does my graphics card have?
[20:58] <kelsin> xilvr: looks like you need the "language-support-<country code>" package
[20:58] <xilvr> lol ubotu
[20:58] <pike_> K_Dallas: maybe not i guess you might consider looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization  for just one app vmware has some overhead
[20:58] <K_Dallas> pike_, appreciate it, i will look into it
[20:58] <xilvr> thx and good bye
[20:58] <dd> i changed the ssh port but when i ssh myip it still asks for password, why?  shouldnt i have to specify a port since it isnt on 22
[20:58] <Hanyou_> Hello can anyone help me with a load time question in Gutsy?
[20:58] <SuperFart> what's tst
[20:59] <EdwardXP> darrend, how can i find out how much space i have
[20:59] <EdwardXP> in my graphics card
[20:59] <Brucevdk> Think I might have found a new bug discussing this issue, jeez this is a scary problem. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[20:59] <stefg> Brucevdk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[20:59] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: how much space you have in your graphics card?
[21:00] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: do you mean, how much memory it has?
[21:00] <emosamurai> Hi. I found a .rvmb file. VLC and MPlayer can not open it. I looked on the wiki and downloaded the associated Dirac plugin, which is supposed to be a universal codec, but VLC and Mplayer will still not play my file.
[21:00] <EdwardXP> foldingstock, yah, and RAM memory
[21:00] <Hanyou_> My problem is I have a super looong boot time due to it checking my windowz partion on the drive. Any help on turning this off?
[21:00] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: is english your first language?
[21:00] <deal_> Is FTP open in local network by standard in linux ? or is that a function I have to enable ?
[21:00] <EdwardXP> no
[21:00] <Brucevdk> stefg: yup that's the new report, the previous one (as described) dismissed it as a LAPTOP_MODE problem.
[21:00] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: ok
[21:00] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: what kind of video card is it?
[21:01] <narothepharoh> how to open a .daa file
[21:01] <EdwardXP> foldingstock, video card is a onboard video card>> its a laptop P m730
[21:01] <pike_> deal_: no server apps like vsftpd are installed in default desktop install you can install em though
[21:01] <zkjellberg> Does anyone know how to add mp3 support for Rhythmbox?
[21:01] <EdwardXP> foldingstock, its' intel
[21:01] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: then it has shared memory, which you configure in the bios
[21:01] <deal_> pike_: thanks m8! I look in to vsftpd =)
[21:01] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: probably 16 or 32MB
[21:01] <EdwardXP> foldingstock, is there anyway i can find out how much is in use right now?
[21:02] <offipso> zkjellberg: There should be a good amount about getting mp3s to work that you can find on google. I can't tell you specifically, as I use xmms and vlc, but you shoudl only hvae to apt-get a few codecs
[21:02] <narothepharoh> how to open a .daa file?
[21:02] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: reboot the laptop, and go into the bios, you will find an option for "shared memory" (probably under an "advanced" menu)
[21:02] <stefg> Hanyou_: edit the <pass> parameter for that drive from 2 to 0 . see !fstab to get a complete expalanation
[21:02] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: that will tell you how much it uses
[21:02] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: another way would be to see how much memory you have on your system, and compare that with how much you actually have
[21:02] <zkjellberg> offipso: Thankyou, How is xmms? I'm just looking for a simple media player for ubuntu.
[21:02] <mneisen> Hi, when i want to transform a PS to PDF using ps2pdf, the resulting PDF has letter format instead of A4 format. Any hints?! Thanks in advance!
[21:02] <EdwardXP> :( i wanted to do everything remotely
[21:03] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: if you're using 32MB shared memory for your video card, and you have 512MB in your system, your system will only show 480MB
[21:03] <narothepharoh> how to open a .daa file?
[21:03] <offipso> zkjellberg: xmms is great, reminds me of winamp
[21:03] <void^> narothepharoh: poweriso has a linux utility to convert their .daa to something useful
[21:03] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: so just check /proc/meminfo and see how much memory the system days it has
[21:03] <zkjellberg> offipso: No need to install audio codecs?
[21:03] <offipso> zkjellberg: It should be easy to get mp3s working it in, as well. try apt-get install xmms
[21:03] <Hanyou_> stefg: This may sound like a stupid question, but where do I find !fstab?
[21:03] <zkjellberg> offipso: Thankyou. :) Going to check that out now.
[21:03] <Anubis> what would be the boot code to disable fdo detection
[21:04] <offipso> zkjellberg: You may very well have to.. Try xmms, if it won't play mp3s it will be fixable by installing another package, though I can't say I know which
[21:04] <stefg> !fstab | Hanyou_
[21:04] <ubotu> Hanyou_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[21:04] <narothepharoh> void: how do i get power iso?
[21:04] <yaaar> is the nonfree flash player plugin up to date on the LTS desktop ubuntu? I have a friend who's having trouble using snapfish.com ...site tells her to upgrade her flash player, but i'm logged in via ssh and apt-get tells me flashplugin-nonfree is at the latest version...
[21:04] <EdwardXP> foldingstock,  thanks, i figure everything out myself i should burn this information in my head but i know what you want me to do
[21:04] <Hanyou_> Thanks a bunch!
[21:04] <peeps[work]> where does the money come from for shipping free Ubuntu CDs?
[21:04] <void^> narothepharoh: "poweriso", a company. they have a website.
[21:04] <yaaar> i guess my larger question is whether there is some more capable/newer flash plugin she's supposed to be using
[21:04] <eth01> why does the installation process take so long? :/
[21:05] <narothepharoh> void is it free?
[21:05] <offipso> eth01 How long is it taking?
[21:05] <EdwardXP> foldingstock, /proc and vital system information i should remember so i can navigate my way around
[21:05] <eth01> offipso: its on 15% for the past 10 or so minutes.
[21:05] <EdwardXP> just learning
[21:05] <void^> narothepharoh: only as in free beer
[21:05] <pike_> yaaar: you can grab the plugin from adobe
[21:05] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: yes
[21:05] <stefg> eth01: because you only have 256 MB of RAM
[21:05] <offipso> eth01: Could be worse
[21:05] <deal_> How do I configure users with vsftpd ?
[21:05] <foldingstock> EdwardXP: also, "dmesg" is a good command to use when troubleshooting
[21:05] <offipso> eth01: Plus, you can use the system as it installs, though if you have low RAM as stefg suggests, that will slow it down too
[21:05] <CoasterMaster> Is there a website that says what all the Unix directories in / are (i.e. what is in /etc, /bin, /var, etc)
[21:06] <stefg> !fhs
[21:06] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[21:06] <narothepharoh> is there any other way?
[21:06] <zkjellberg> offipso: Works right away with mp3s, thanx. :)
[21:06] <SuperFart> how do I make netstat only show internet connections
[21:06] <eth01> offipso: it will always be slow, no matter what.
[21:06] <MinusSeven> Is there a way to change the date format in the taskbar without changing the language settings?
[21:06] <void^> narothepharoh: it's a proprietary file format, so probably not.
[21:07] <eth01> i installed ubuntu onto a server with 16gb ram, and it was still sluggish.
[21:07] <offipso> zkjellberg: Woot. If you want a similarly pleasant experience for videos, try vlc. Enabling extra repositories in the synaptic package manager mmight helpy ou find fun thigns too (like libdvdread)
[21:07] <offipso> eth01: That's not my experience. I can't say what caused it to be slow on a system like that
[21:07] <core64> eth01: ubuntu install takes 25 mins on this computer
[21:07] <m11> eth01 , dont set network at install process, configure it l8r
[21:08] <zkjellberg> offipso: I am currently using mplayer which is treating me well. Installs codecs and such manually, but may install VLC because it seems to be able to play everything if my primary video player is uncapable of doing it.
[21:08] <eth01> m11, you haven't installed from the latest ubuntu then have you? ;)
[21:08] <offipso> zkjellberg: Ah, mplayer is pretty good too. Experiment, I'd say, as it sounds like you're doing
[21:08] <eth01> m11, it doesn't ask for network config in the installation process *yet* ..
[21:09] <peeps[work]> Does canonical actually make money?
[21:09] <offipso> eth01: what version are you installing? Are you using the live-cd?
[21:09] <stefg> !install | eth01
[21:09] <ubotu> eth01: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[21:09] <JWl> Hi i cant find a  guide how i install Xgl and Beryl to Ubuntu 7.10 ...i have use google ...but i only found to Edgy.  Can somone help me to find a guide ??
[21:09] <yaaar> pike_: ok, she downloaded the .tar.gz version from adobe (the website prompts you to d/l that or an .rpm) and it unpacks/runs and installs libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla ...but then when we close/reopen the browser and try again she's getting the same thing.
[21:09] <core64> eth01: maybe its the CD you're using, try downloading again, and burning at a slower speed
[21:09] <dgjones> !beryl | JWl
[21:09] <ubotu> JWl: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[21:09] <stefg> !beryl | JWl
[21:09] <dgjones> !compiz | JWl
[21:09] <ubotu> JWl: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:09] <core64> JWl: what type of card do you have?
[21:09] <deal_> How do I configure add/remove users with vsftpd ?
[21:10] <yaaar> pike_: could the libflashplayer.so in one of the other plugins directories be taking precedence?
[21:10] <Powaqqatsi> anyone have any idea why i cant run some apps via console?   I'm new to ubuntu.  On debian after making a new app i could just type the name to run it, now i have to go to the file browser and double click it, anyone have any idea?
[21:10] <zkjellberg> Question: Whenever I toy with my network settings, all programs seem to do "Program is starting..." and never boot. This only seems to happen when I switch my profile in the network program. Anyone know what causes this? The only thing I can do is reboot to resolve the issue.
[21:10] <JWl> ATI Readon 1950x PRO 512
[21:10] <lex> yaaar if you upgrade firefox to the newest version, they have it implimented to install acrobat, flash ect
[21:10] <offipso> zkjellberg: Perhaps you've changed your hostname? If you do, I think that Xorg freaks out and needs to be restarted. btw, a qcuik way to restart xorg (the x windows GUI) is ctrl+alt+backsapce, which doesn't reboot the computer
[21:11] <svschwartz> hi all
[21:11] <stefg> Powaqqatsi: maybe the files are not in your path. and ubuntu uses sudo for the stuff in sbin
[21:11] <stefg> !sudo | Powaqqatsi
[21:11] <ubotu> Powaqqatsi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[21:11] <core64> JWl: see if this gets you started, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[21:11] <yaaar> lex: upgrade to the latest package in the LTS repo? or upgrade manually past that?
[21:11] <diafic> sudo empty your wallet into this sack.
[21:11] <zstars> Noob question, how do you get sudo apt-get to download a package from the net, and not try to install from a CD?
[21:11] <Powaqqatsi> thanks, but the file is in my path and i tried sudo
[21:11] <Powaqqatsi> still doesnt run it
[21:11] <core64> zstars: you have to disable the CD as a repository
[21:12] <stefg> !apt | zstars
[21:12] <ubotu> zstars: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[21:12] <yaaar> the updates have been faithfully done on the box, but very little is installed outside of the repos
[21:12] <zkjellberg> offipso: The only thing that is being changed with the different profiles is the preferred wireless signal. I'll remember that key combination and see if that resolves future issues.
[21:12] <lex> yaaar I upgraded firefox manually by downloading the tar.bz
[21:12] <offipso> powaqqatsi: By in your path, do you mean the file is in the local directory you're in?
[21:12] <svschwartz> can anybody help with little c++ program
[21:12] <svschwartz> just 3 strings
[21:12] <Powaqqatsi> yep, same directory as the console shows that i am in
[21:12] <offipso> zkjellberg: Ah, I'm thinking of a different profile, then. Not sure why it does that
[21:12] <K_Dallas> is there anyother way around to use office2007 files under ubuntu besides virtualization?
[21:12] <JWl> but do i need beryl ??
[21:12] <zstars> oh ty
[21:13] <offipso> powaqqatsi: have you tried ./program_name ?
[21:13] <jamiejackson> sometimes when i resume, i can't do anything with gnome. i can't interact with the menu bars. i'm having such a situation right now. what's the trick for giving gnome a kick (not as hard a kick as ctrl-alt-backspace)
[21:13] <svschwartz> 	string str;
[21:13] <svschwartz> 	cin >> str;
[21:13] <svschwartz> 	cout << str << endl;
[21:13] <Powaqqatsi> lemme try that offipso
[21:13] <stefg> JWl: beryl is no more... it's now compiz-fusion
[21:13] <yaaar> lex: i'd rather not have them do that. this is a friend of mine who lives far away; the box has run for years stable as a rock and they never have to mess with it other than clicking the update icon now and again
[21:13] <narothepharoh> how to open a.tar.gz file?
[21:13] <offipso> k_dallas: Perhaps you can convert them to regular .doc files, which openoffice can open?
[21:13] <SuperFart> how do I make netstat only show internet connections
[21:13] <Powaqqatsi> ahh that does it :) ty offipso
[21:13] <Powaqqatsi> never had to do that with debian
[21:13] <zkjellberg> offipso: thanx for all the help, i'm gonna head off
[21:13] <JWl> yea but how do i get cube and like tha on compiz?
[21:13] <narothepharoh> it keeps telling me run with?
[21:13] <K_Dallas> also, I have just installed Ubuntu7.10 on my laptop and when I try to activate visual effects, it says it cannot. should i install any particular package for that? (the installation is the default)
[21:13] <offipso> powaqqatsi: no problem. ./ basically means run this program. You can type a program name withotu ./ if it's in your path, meaning in a system variable called $PATH or something similar
[21:14] <K_Dallas> offipso, i could always do it but
[21:14] <lex> yaaar: ok, just a suggestion since it sounded like they were trying to manually install adobe anyways
[21:14] <zstars> svsc: ##c++ :)
[21:14] <carnelain> can I apply view as list on all folders? (7.10)
[21:14] <offipso> zkjellberg: np
[21:14] <offipso> k_dallas: TFE is an awesome movie
[21:14] <Powaqqatsi> yeh, familiar with the notation, just didnt think about it because it never came up in the other distros i was used to
[21:14] <stefg> K_Dallas: you need a 3D accelerated driver for your video. what card is that ?
[21:14] <alex__> i was if anyone knows how i can reload grub? i installed ubuntu alongside a vista install and grub doesn't display vista?
[21:14] <K_Dallas> stefg, i have no idea
[21:14] <stefg> K_Dallas: lspci | grep VGA
[21:14] <K_Dallas> ok
[21:15] <svschwartz> zstars: u see when I input "test1 test2 test3" it prints out just "test1"
[21:15] <offipso> alex__: The way to configure grub, as far as I know, is to check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:15] <lex> alex__: which did you install first, linus or vista?
[21:15] <alex__> vista
[21:15] <loopo`> i am having some problems playing back dvd's i popped in the futurama dvd and i tried xine and it crashed i tried mplayer and it told me it tottaly screwwed the pooch i tried ogle and it crashed telling me FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps]: dvdreadblocks failed
[21:15] <quangle> hey guys. what's a good programming font in ubuntu? my matlab is using some stupid unreadable font... i don't know which one to use instead...
[21:15] <chazco> hi... I have an IR remote control... after compiling v4l-dvb most of the buttons work... How can i get the others? They generate codes in showkey...
[21:15] <alex__> i tried that, i added the lines for the vista install
[21:15] <K_Dallas> stefg, it lists nothing
[21:15] <stefg> K_Dallas: you typoed
[21:15] <alex__> i think i just can't get the rootnoverify line right
[21:16] <offipso> loopo`: interestingly enough I have the same sort of problems, but only with futurama dvds! VLC will play them for a few minutes then crash. Other dvds work fine all the wya through
[21:16] <stefg> K_Dallas: linux is case sensitive
[21:16] <mrball> quangle: I installed the Terminus font on a recommendation of a coworker.  Works ok for Gnome apps.
[21:16] <K_Dallas> stefg, yes i had  forgot ;)
[21:16] <yaaar> lex: well, yes. but only because apparently the libflashplugin-nonfree package is out of date and won't run this site she wants to use.
[21:16] <quangle> mrball, thanks. is there a good default font though?
[21:16] <offipso> loop`: Are you able to play other dvds?
[21:16] <offipso> loopo`, that is
[21:16] <K_Dallas> stefg,  intel mobile GM965 GL960 integrated graphic rev 8c
[21:16] <loopo`> let me check
[21:17] <EdwardXP> cat ./cpuinfo
[21:17] <EdwardXP> the best command line :D
[21:17] <mrball> quangle: In the end, I ended up sticking with Monospace (because in terminus the difference between () and {} was very difficult to see) and disabling bold.  Then my mutt looks right.
[21:17] <jamiejackson> how do i give gnome a bump when the menus become unresponsive?
[21:17] <offipso> !dvd | offipso
[21:17] <jalvarado_> Why a lot of people say that ubuntu is a shit
[21:17] <jalvarado_> ???
[21:17] <dd> how do i close unused ports?
[21:17] <K_Dallas> stefg, i have to go out for 10 min could you plz pm me your messages, thanks
[21:17] <Nuked> I just tried to run a program called warzone 2100 and It states that "error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but I have it installed
[21:17] <carnelain> can I apply view as list on all folders? (7.10)
[21:17] <offipso> jalvarado_: like any computer system, it can be difficult
[21:18] <offipso> dd: iptables is the linux software firewall, that can close ports and do other security things
[21:18] <slaytanic> dd: If they are unused... they're already closed.
[21:18] <mrball> Nuked: depends _where_ you have it installed and if the dynamic loader knows where to find it.
[21:18] <zstars> Does anyone know how to get apt-get to download from the net only, and not to use CDs? I've not been able to find how to on the link
[21:18] <offipso> dd: You can find examples online or in man iptables
[21:18] <zippytech> is there a way to list files using a hard drive
[21:18] <mediahunter> can anyone here help me with my wifi issue
[21:18] <loopo`> i just popped in my copy of saved and it works perfectly well
[21:18] <lex> yaaar: stupid question, i may have missed you saying this, but have they/you tried following the install guide on the flashplayer website?
[21:18] <EdwardXP> whats the command to find out how much space is in a directory?
[21:18] <dd> well theyre closed but not blocked
[21:18] <stefg> K_Dallas: it's disabled because videp playback has issues with compiz on that card
[21:18] <zippytech> du -sh
[21:18] <void^> zstars: remove/commend the cdrom lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:18] <offipso> zstars: have you tried editing the options in the synaptic package manager? You should be able to seleect internet repositories in there, and then hit the update button to download available package info
[21:19] <svschwartz> zstars: vim /etc/apt/source.list comment deb-cd
[21:19] <offipso> edwardXP: du -h /some/directory
[21:19] <core64> zstars: go to System -> Administration -> software sources, and uncheck the CD
[21:19] <zstars> oh ty
[21:19] <svschwartz> guys need help with simple c++ program
[21:19] <core64> svschwartz: this isn't programming support
[21:19] <svschwartz> where is it ????
[21:20] <stefg> !freenode
[21:20] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[21:20] <yaaar> er, adobe's website? nope.....really i just did what seemed obvious. it told me to dl a tar from adobe, i unpacked and it had an executable which ran and told me it installed
[21:20] <EdwardXP> edward@Laptopxp:~/s07-7$ du -h
[21:20] <EdwardXP> 4.8M    ./w-plsk01
[21:20] <EdwardXP> 3.0G    .
[21:20] <yaaar> lex
[21:20] <EdwardXP> does that 3.0GB .  "mean its a parent directory"
[21:20] <loopo`> so yes other dvds work well if that was unclear
[21:20] <corruptionoflulz> I have to admit, i am incredibly impressed by how good the ubuntu community is, and how helpful everyone in it is to new people.
[21:20] <svschwartz> core64: what chanel provide programming support ?
[21:20] <void^> EdwardXP: no, current directory.
[21:20] <EdwardXP> yah
[21:21] <EdwardXP> its a current dir
[21:21] <core64> svschwartz: look through the freenode channel listing for some type of C++ channel, i know nothing about c++
[21:21] <Nuked> mrball, I have the original ubuntu package installed, and it installed to /usr/local but im not sure how to point the loader in that direction
[21:21] <Nuked> mrball, usr/lib sorry
[21:21] <zippytech> where would i look to find out whats using a drive
[21:21] <svschwartz> !freenode
[21:21] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[21:21] <zippytech> any idea's
[21:21] <kelsin> zippytech: youmean
[21:22] <yaaar> lex: ok now i've read their instructions...but it's just the same process i did
[21:22] <kelsin> zippytech: you can't umount it?
[21:22] <Luciel> Hi everyone, im new to linux, and my ubuntu resolution is all over the place (to big for screen) could someone point me to where might i change the screen resolution?
[21:22] <mrball> Nuked: where is the exact file?
[21:22] <zippytech> unmount nor mount
[21:22] <offipso> luciel: first try system/preferences/screen resolution in the menu bar up top
[21:22] <zippytech> says is busy
[21:22] <zippytech> rebooted and everyting
[21:22] <jalvarado_> offipso, I ask because  I know some people that does not like as ubuntu has changed a lot of thing of the system
[21:22] <Luciel> thats the thing cant see the menu bar up top offipso : (
[21:22] <zippytech> i can boot to live cd and drive works fine
[21:22] <lex> yaaar: which version of flash and which of firefox?
[21:22] <t4m1n0>  /msg nickserv identify putkap
[21:23] <offipso> luciel: phew, that is zoomed in. And the screen doesn't scroll when you use the mouse? try ctrl alt numpad+ or numpad-
[21:23] <kelsin> zippytech: sudo lsof | grep sdx (where sdx is the device)
[21:23] <stefg> t4m1n0: time for a password cahnge :-)
[21:23] <t4m1n0> lol
[21:23] <Nuked> mrball, the libal or the game? If the game is what you are talking about its in my home folder.
[21:23] <core64> svschwartz: go to ##c++
[21:23] <t4m1n0> don't force me register a new nick :D
[21:23] <t4m1n0> stefg,
[21:23] <yaaar> lex: but i think i may have it fixed; i did md5sums on all the libflashplayer.so files on my system, and the ones in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins matched the one in /usr/lib/libflashplayer-nonfree/plugins whereas the only one to differ was the one in ~/.mozilla/ ...so i copied that one over to the other two directories
[21:23] <t4m1n0> :D
[21:23] <offipso> jalvarado_ I guess ubuntu's policy is to try and pick sane defaults for average or beginner linux users, so that could irritate some people who are used to other setups
[21:23] <core64> svschwartz: 508 ppl in there to help ya :)
[21:23] <t4m1n0> one q
[21:23] <mrball> Nuked: the libal.  Something like /usr/lib/libal/libal.so.6   or whatever.  I'm looking to see the exact path of it.
[21:23] <t4m1n0> btw about the nicks...
[21:23] <yaaar> unfortunately they aren't home so i can't test whether it works
[21:23] <zippytech> nothing
[21:23] <t4m1n0> I own nick frojnd..
[21:24] <Luciel> offipso: in deed, and the keys you mentioned have no effect : (
[21:24] <Nuked> mrball,  /usr/lib/libopenal.so.0
[21:24] <t4m1n0> but this nick is up even though I went off computer any ideas?
[21:24] <zippytech> it's not mounted eithere
[21:24] <offipso> luciel: the only other way I can think of is to manually edit the /etc/xorg/xorg.conf file, which contains screen resolution information.
[21:24] <mrball> Nuked: which game did you install?  Where is it installed?
[21:24] <aitor> is xubuntu like ubuntu?
[21:24] <yaaar> firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0ubuntu3
[21:24] <offipso> lucie: Sorry, wrong directory
[21:24] <yaaar> les
[21:24] <zippytech> have tried running fsck but that don't work either
[21:24] <jalvarado_> offipso, I understand it, but my friends do not
[21:25] <offipso> luciel: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the file
[21:25] <Luciel> XII right?
[21:25] <stefg> t4m1n0: see the freenode help... /msg nickserv ghost frojnd <password>
[21:25] <Luciel> there, cheers offipso : )
[21:25] <core64> aitor: its ubuntu but with XFCE, go to www.xfce.org for more info
[21:25] <EdwardXP> 209.131.36.158  can someone connect to my computer testing r_desktop
[21:25] <EdwardXP> opps wrong window
[21:25] <Nuked> mrball, warzone 2100 to my home directory
[21:25] <aitor> thankx core64
[21:25] <aitor> thanks
[21:25] <riddareralf> How can I find gnome-art-manager in ubuntu? It's not in synaptic
[21:25] <core64> np
[21:25] <riddareralf> gnome-theme-manager***
[21:26] <offipso> Luciel: Hmm, on second thought, my own xorg.conf file lacks screen mode information, but I'm certain it can be in there.. google might be best for an example file
[21:26] <Nuked> mrball, if it makes a difference I am using 64 bit gutsy
[21:26] <JEFFmasterFLEX> riddareralf:  system/preferences/appearance
[21:27] <mrball> Nuked: and what do you run to attempt to start the game?  Is it a binary or a script?  (ldd against the binary and it will tell you where it's looking for the libs)
[21:27] <deal_> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot open config file:start
[21:27] <corruptionoflulz> offipso: my xorg.conf has resolution settings.
[21:27] <deal_> is there any easyer apps that can setup an ftpserver exept vsftp ?
[21:27] <offipso> corrputionoflulz: I'd think all of them would, but mine doesn't seem to..
[21:27] <stefg> !ftpd | deal_
[21:27] <ubotu> deal_: FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[21:27] <riddareralf> JEFFmasterFLEX, I'm using gnome-art and trying to change theme but they use gnome-theme-manager to change theme, and it doesn't exist.
[21:27] <offipso> luciel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=454217 is a howto regarding that topic
[21:27] <Nuked> mrball, a binary
[21:27] <attickid> anyone knows how to install Postgress apache and Php automatically?
[21:27] <core64> vsftpd is pretty easy, IMO
[21:27] <riddareralf> When I try gnome-theme-manager in console it says that it doesn't exist
[21:28] <toresn> what application is being used (to the right) in the following screenshot:
[21:28] <toresn> http://www.stampersite.com/images/after.png
[21:28] <mrball> Nuked: run ldd against it and see if it can find all the libs it's looking for.
[21:28] <JEFFmasterFLEX> riddareralf:  i think gnome-theme-manager has been deprecated in gnome 2.20
[21:28] <riddareralf> JEFFmasterFLEX, it's possible
[21:28] <stefg> !info conky | toresn
[21:28] <ubotu> toresn: conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[21:29] <offipso> damn, that conky program looks cool
[21:29] <Nuked> hmm mrball it would seem its linking to 32 bit libs
[21:29] <t4m1n0> how can I get informations about what wifi router i have ?
[21:30] <offipso> t4m1n0: get the model number off the physical router and look it up, or log into the router's html intreface and look there
[21:30] <core64> t4m1n0: walk over to router and take a look ;)
[21:30] <pike_> toresn: conky is pretty cool i think dsl uses an older version but that is what you want
[21:30] <toresn> is conky the best system monitoring application, or do you have any other recommendations?
[21:30] <stefg> !best
[21:30] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[21:30] <offipso> torsen: gkrellm is pretty cool, as are some gdesklets
[21:30] <t4m1n0> offipso, core64 there has to be a way to get info from chair,..
[21:30] <keanu> might sound weird, but I accidentally managed to remove myself from all groups except me and 'adm' and no longer have sudo access.  Seeing that I forget my root password, is there anyway to reset it without going into single user mode?
[21:30] <core64> t4m1n0: are you serious?
[21:31] <offipso> t4m1n0: what is your internal ip? e.g., log into 192.168.1.1
[21:31] <t4m1n0> core64, 100% room where is router is locked..
[21:31] <offipso> t4m1n0: Then check out www.goldsgym.com
[21:31] <core64> lol
[21:31] <t4m1n0> offipso, ok..
[21:31] <offipso> haha, ah, locked
[21:31] <joakim> how do we change windows on compiz ??
[21:31] <stefg> keanu: you slammed the door and left the key inside.... no way, you're locked out
[21:31] <usser> keanu, nope u'll have to boot into recovery
[21:31] <bkar> !sound|bkar
[21:31] <googl1> hi @ all
[21:31] <googl1> does sb know about gnu assembler, and can help me with a question i have about it ?
[21:31] <core64> t4m1n0: ok, if its locked, whats your gateway IP address?
[21:32] <keanu> usser, stefg: sigh - so much for decent uptime
[21:32] <shanky> how can I kwno if my kernel have udma support?
[21:32] <t4m1n0> core64, offipso I'm in there is smth: Firmware Version: Satori-4.0 v2.07.1.7sv
[21:32] <arajabat> hi! I'm trying to access my ubuntu desktop by a computer with windows. But when I try I need type a password. The password is different of my linux user. How can I configure that password?
[21:32] <t4m1n0> is this the number
[21:32] <zippytech> when ubuntu boots how can you see what it's doing
[21:32] <zippytech> no splash screen
[21:32] <zippytech> i guess
[21:33] <pike_> zippytech: remove the splash in grub kernel line gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:33] <corruptionoflulz> Anyone here have their background set to change every certain amount of time or whatever?
[21:33] <pike_> zippytech: or you can do it at boot by hitting e to edit
[21:33] <core64> t4m1n0: that makes me think you have a linksys router, probably a WRT54g
[21:33] <jimcooncat> my dhcpd server isn't starting up on reboot, only when I invoke it. How to fix so it starts on boot?
[21:33] <t4m1n0> core64, yes it is linksys
[21:33] <stefg> !bum
[21:33] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:33] <zippytech> thanks
[21:33] <offipso> what programmer set ctrl-x to kill xchat?
[21:33] <joakim> anyone now how we change windows on  compiz like beryl berfor _
[21:33] <googl1> does sb know about gnu assembler, and can help me with a question i have about it ?
[21:33] <core64> t4m1n0: well there ya go
[21:34] <rhpot1992> got a question guys, with the amd64 gutsy installer cd I am seeing a black screen after it loads the kernel and no activity on the cdrom or hard drive
[21:34] <rhpot1992> happens with the graphics safe mode too
[21:34] <rhpot1992> monitors are going idle as if there is no longer any connection
[21:34] <stefg> !boot | rhpot1992
[21:34] <ubotu> rhpot1992: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:35] <elafrit> salut
[21:35] <Lunar_Lamp> Where in gconf-edit can I configure the hiding properties of my gnome-panel? I know that previously I had to edit there to make it unhide faster and to completely disappear when hidden.
[21:35] <jimcooncat> thanks stefg I was looking for that
[21:35] <rhpot1992> thanks stefg
[21:36] <DM|> question.. how do i add a user to the sudoers file properly?>
[21:36] <Nuked> mrball, thanks anyway
[21:36] <stefg> DM|: you just make the user member of 'admin' group
[21:37] <DM|> stefg no GUI , need to do it in command line
[21:37] <core64> DM|: or take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[21:37] <stefg> dm| adduser <user> admin .... so what ?
[21:37] <googl1> if i want to catch a input in gnu asm:
[21:37] <googl1> mov $3, %eax
[21:37] <googl1> mov $0, %ebx
[21:37] <googl1> mov $value, %ecx
[21:37] <googl1> mov $2, %edx
[21:37] <googl1> the var "value" has the value ( with input 5) 2613! why ?
[21:38] <core64> !flood | googl1
[21:38] <ubotu> googl1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:38] <stefg> !offtopic | googl1
[21:38] <ubotu> googl1: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:38] <jimcooncat> "update-rc.d dhcp3-server" what?
[21:38] <DM|> stefg "the group 'admin' does not exist, (this is ubuntu-server)
[21:38] <googl1> ok sry
[21:39] <ikonia> DM|: adm
[21:39] <DM|> adm?
[21:39] <ikonia> DM|: the grou is adm
[21:39] <DM|> oh , "adduser dmserver adm"?
[21:39] <ikonia> DM|: I don't use add user
[21:39] <DM|> what do u use?
[21:39] <stefg> DM| : huh? that sounds strange to me... don't know too much about gutsy server defaults, but this smells fishy
[21:40] <alex__> what path do u save .py scripts in?
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> What hardware do you need to play games like SuperTux? I have an old laptop and it is painfully slow. Would more swap space help?
[21:40] <DM|> ><))'>
[21:40] <adaminla> Can I use wine to open an .exe file?
[21:40] <DM|> adaminla: yes
[21:40] <offipso> adaminla: in theory, yes
[21:40] <DM|> adaminla: will it work? questionable.
[21:40] <eth01> depends, DM|.
[21:41] <offipso> odd-rationale: the only real requirement of a modern computer with supertux would be a decent video card, I'd imagine. more swap space is unlikley toh elp, as that game doesn't need a ton fo memory
[21:41] <phiqtion> !kernel
[21:41] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[21:41] <adaminla> thanx
[21:41] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Thanks! How can i find out if I have a good enough video card?
[21:42] <DM|> ikonia you know alot about ubuntu-server?
[21:42] <offipso> odd-rationale: hmm... sudo apt-get install supertux; supertux ?
[21:42] <meeper> ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 2048 -f /home/ocean/ <-- this produces 'DSA Keys must be 1024 bits' which I'm pretty sure is not true since the same command works on older ubuntu machines
[21:42] <offipso> odd-rationale: in other words, see if you can play it!
[21:42] <DM|> ikonia im askinghere cus the guys in #ubuntu-server arent answering
[21:42] <core64> DM|: did you take a look the link i sent you?
[21:42] <DM|> core64 aye, added, and hes in the admin group
[21:42] <phiqtion> i have a Pentium 4, which kenel suits me best?
[21:43] <stefg> !generic | phiqtion
[21:43] <ubotu> phiqtion: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[21:43] <ebirtaid> kenel?
[21:43] <DM|> core64 getting an error when i run a sudo command on ubuntu-server, and it wont run the command im telling it to
[21:43] <meeper> any ideas?
[21:43] <core64> DM|: as the new user?
[21:43] <DM|> existing user
[21:43] <mikeoo> how do i get sound working?
[21:43] <googl1> the gnu asm problem :
[21:43] <googl1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46371/
[21:43] <googl1> i hope you can help me! THX!!!
[21:43] <mikeoo> intel hda
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Well, it is *painfully* SLOW. I guess that tells me. But what kind video card should I look for If I intend to get a new (old) computer?
[21:43] <DM|> there is only one user core64
[21:43] <Seeker`> googl1: This isn't a coding support channel
[21:44] <stefg> !intelhda | mikeoo
[21:44] <ubotu> mikeoo: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:44] <kakoonia> hey, how do i activate applets in awn? cause i tried to add applets to the active applets list, and it asks me for a path to the applet, though i have no idea what path it should be, neither if i have it already installed. i installed already the awn-core-applets-bzr pkg.
[21:44] <core64> DM|: only one user and you can't sudo? Is this the user you setup the server w/
[21:44] <EdwardXP> you know whats really cool about ubuntu ???  type in the terminal " CAL "
[21:44] <EdwardXP> you can see the calendar
[21:44] <DM|> core64 yep
[21:44] <ebirtaid> WOWZERS
[21:44] <DM|> core64 heres the error.
[21:44] <joakim> do i neeed to install beryl to change window_
[21:44] <phiqtion> stefg: that website is broken
[21:44] <corruptionoflulz> EdwardXP: i like the command "fortune" better
[21:44] <googl1> -help
[21:45] <offipso> odd-rationale: Ah, hmm.. It's possible you don't have propritary drivers installed. Y ou can check system/administration/restricted drivers manager. If there's a video driver in there you can enable, that will probably help, as it will be faster. I'd imagine any computer with a recent ATI or nVidia card should be able to play it fine
[21:45] <core64> googl1: this isn't a programming forum
[21:45] <DM|> core64 sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf" no such file or dir
[21:45] <randy> Hello...I'm using xchat-gnome 0.18 and just about all I see is "xxxx has quit" and "xxx has joined" messages.  How the heck do I turn those OFF!?!!?
[21:45] <stefg> phiqtion: works for me
[21:45] <EdwardXP> :( fortune doesn't work
[21:45] <offipso> odd-rationale: also, check the command line switches for the program, you  might be able to turn off some video options
[21:45] <googl1> can sb tell me a coding cannel ?
[21:45] <googl1> please
[21:45] <corruptionoflulz> randy: i don't think you can with xchat-gnome, atleast i haven't figured it out, i know you can with xchat though.
[21:45] <core64> googl1: what language is that?
[21:45] <core64> i can't tell
[21:45] <ebirtaid> asm
[21:45] <core64> oh
[21:45] <corruptionoflulz> EdwardXP: fortune doesn't work??
[21:45] <EdwardXP> i had to type in /usr/game/fortune Argghhh
[21:45] <stefg> googl1: see the freenode cahnnel listing, my guess would be #gcc
[21:46] <core64> not familiar w/ it
[21:46] <corruptionoflulz> $ fortune
[21:46] <deal_> Anyone can tell me how I start up wine (with wow), in Full screen? Only get a small window :(
[21:46] <corruptionoflulz> You have Egyptian flu: you're going to be a mummy.
[21:46] <Odd-rationale> offipso: OK The restricted manager tells me that I I don't need any restricted drivers. What's the terminal commands you're talking about?
[21:46] <stefg> deal_: wine support is in #winehq
[21:46] <googl1> #gcc
[21:46] <mrball> googl1: There is a ##asm channel.  The description starts with "Understanding Assembly".  You can look at the list of channels in every graphical IRC client.
[21:47] <EdwardXP> root@Laptopxp:~/s07-7# /usr/games/fortune
[21:47] <EdwardXP> You will be advanced socially, without any special effort on your part.
[21:47] <offipso> odd-rationale: try, in a terminal, supertux --help, or perhaps man supertux. It might show you some options you can run it with
[21:47] <EdwardXP> woohooo
[21:47] <core64> DM|: so are you having problems w/ postfix or running sudo? what happens if you type sudo aptitude?
[21:47] <ebirtaid> whats with all the xp in your stuff edwardxp
[21:47] <iarwain1> ebirtaid: ain't good enough for vista
[21:47] <ebirtaid> I see
[21:48] <EdwardXP> It means im a' professional Xpert
[21:48] <ebirtaid> must've beenj too hard
[21:48] <EdwardXP> :D
[21:48] <DM|> core64 nothing just displays "sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf"
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Also is there a way to find out what type of video card am using. The System -> Administration -> System Monitor does not tell me. Maybe a command line?
[21:48] <ebirtaid> welp
[21:48] <zippytech> what and is kpartx the default in ubuntu
[21:48] <ebirtaid> xpert at fail
[21:48] <EdwardXP> ebirtaid,  I'm A HAYBRID!!!
[21:48] <iarwain1> XP => Proffesional eXpert... Someone has his letters mixed up
[21:48] <stefg> Odd-rationale: lspci | grep VGA
[21:48] <DM|> core64 this is a new server install, i HAVE NO EMAIL server set up yet
[21:48] <offipso> odd-rationale: Hm, try system/preferences/hardware information instead
[21:48] <offipso> ah, or that
[21:48] <core64> DM|: so whatever sudo command  you run, you get that error?
[21:48] <core64> thats odd
[21:48] <iarwain1> EdwardXP: i'm a gaybird :)
[21:48] <DM|> core64 yep
[21:48] <EdwardXP> lol
[21:49] <EdwardXP> why don't you ./ get the hell out of here :)
[21:49] <Odd-rationale> offipso: OK Thanks a lot!
[21:49] <offipso> np
[21:49] <iarwain1> damnit, too tired to try to be funny :'(
[21:49] <DM|> !offtopic | EdwardXP
[21:49] <ubotu> EdwardXP: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:49] <ebirtaid> yea :(
[21:49] <K_Dallas> Would this graphic card work with Ubuntu normal visual effect?  intel mobile GM965 GL960 integrated graphic rev 8c (if not, i have to say that i am so disappointed)
[21:50] <core64> K_Dallas: should work
[21:50] <EdwardXP> i reallly want to learn the bash commands, so i can talk even more geekie and take over yahoo one of these days
[21:50] <bastien> HI !
[21:50] <core64> DM|: im sorry, im not sure
[21:50] <ebirtaid> heh
[21:50] <K_Dallas> core64, that was my impression but why it says it cannot activate it
[21:50] <core64> K_Dallas: are you running 64bit?
[21:50] <DM|> K_Dallas you can always try, but dont be disappointed at the software, be disappointed at intel's attempt to cheap you out of a 3d card
[21:50] <K_Dallas> nope 32
[21:51] <keanu> question - i think i found my root password (i had it saved in an encrypted file with a few others) but on the RootSudo page, it says su is disabled by default - is there any way I can re-enable it without going into recovery mode?
[21:51] <stefg> K_Dallas: teh ubuntu-devs choose to disbale effects for that card, because you would loose the capability to watch video then. compiz is a new kind of software which has still some problems
[21:51] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Still there?
[21:51] <croddy> is there a way to override restricted-manager's erroneous judgement that i don't actually need fglrx? or perhaps a way to install fglrx that does an end-run around restricted-manager?
[21:51] <jrattner1> Question: Some how my installation grew largely over night?  Now my system is running terribly and says that diskspace is at 100%...so what do I do?
[21:51] <DM|> jrattner1 7.10?
[21:51] <jrattner1> correct
[21:52] <K_Dallas> stefg, so can i downgrade from compiz to something more compatible?
[21:52] <corruptionoflulz> From what i understood, they really just included compiz for fun, they know it's not stable yet, and people really shouldn't expect so.
[21:52] <jrattner1> DM|, correct
[21:52] <core64> K_Dallas: yea, i just realize we have the same card
[21:52] <DM|> jrattner1:  press ALT f2, and then type in "gksudo baobab"
[21:52] <K_Dallas> core64, :) so what do you do
[21:52] <core64> K_Dallas: it doesn't work :)
[21:52] <core64> lol
[21:52] <DM|> jrattner1 then... tell it to scan your filesystem, look at how big the files are
[21:52] <K_Dallas> oh lol
[21:52] <offipso> odd-rationale: whoops, yeah
[21:53] <stefg> K_Dallas: your only choice (although just theoretical) would be to change the video adapter. Your card isn't effects compatible, so forget about them
[21:53] <core64> K_Dallas: and stefg just said why, which sucks, cuz it work for me on gutsy beta
[21:53] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Where would I find my video card in the device manager?
[21:53] <core64> which would mean changing the motherboard
[21:53] <deal_> I'm new to linux. And everything here is new. I recall only some from my Slackware 4.0 period (wich lasted a few months). But where would you guys start to get a good understanding of Linux Kernel and all that comes with, let us say ubuntu :-D
[21:53] <core64> deal_: anything in particular you want to do?
[21:53] <iarwain1> deal_: prolly find a newbie guide
[21:54] <K_Dallas> stefg core64 so does it mean if i wait 6 month, it might actually work and right now, except for the visual eye candy, what other important features am i missing?
[21:54] <joakim> common gays help me !!! how do you hell changle windows tema in compix i now how you change animation but not the windows ..
[21:54] <jrattner1> DM|, alright and what should i be able to determine from this procedure
[21:54] <zippytech> does any one know if kpartx should be installed on a standard ubuntu install
[21:54] <offipso> odd-rationale, ah stefg had a better suggestions, which was "lspci | grep VGA" in hte terminal
[21:54] <iceman_> hello core 64
[21:54] <deal_> I'm new to linux. And everything here is new. I recall only some from my Slackware 4.0 period (wich lasted a few months). But where would you guys start to get a good understanding of Linux Kernel and all that comes with, let us say ubuntu :-D
[21:54] <DM|> jrattner1: where all the space is being used
[21:54] <core64> deal_: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[21:54] <DM|> jrattner1 should be able to tell what files/folders are using what space
[21:54] <iarwain1> ebirtaid: you stink O.o
[21:54] <core64> K_Dallas: hardy heron will be out by then
[21:54] <core64> hopefully its fixed
[21:55] <deal_> core64: Hehe =) Been there, but thanks. Start there and work my way to a Linux genius!
[21:55] <ebirtaid> your mom sucks iarwain
[21:55] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Yes, that works (thanks, stefg). But I was looking for a gui - i might forget the command next time I need it.
[21:55] <croddy> so is restricted-manager basically an unsupported beta or something? perhaps there is a PCI ID list somewhere i can hack to whip its ass into shape?
[21:55] <K_Dallas> core64, i can bear that but again what am i missing right now?
[21:55] <jrattner1> DM|, alright..it shows 78% in /media where all my music is....This makes sense but I have my music on another partition
[21:55] <iarwain1> ebirtaid: that's not nice
[21:55] <core64> K_Dallas: what do  you mean missing?
[21:55] <K_Dallas> and what this compiz is anyways, what is the old equivalent of it
[21:55] <iarwain1> ebirtaid: i hate you
[21:56] <ebirtaid> :( sorry
[21:56] <benjammin4> hi guys i need help
[21:56] <core64> benjammin4: ask away...
[21:56] <iarwain1> ebirtaid: apologies accepted
[21:56] <stefg> K_Dallas: might happen... but my feeling is that it's more a hardware problem. So get a new graphics adapter (read: a new notebook) to have compiz fusion running.
[21:56] <jrattner1> DM|, it also shows / as 100%
[21:56] <ebirtaid> kk
[21:56] <core64> could be a desktop
[21:56] <DM|> jrattner1 how big is your main partition
[21:56] <benjammin4> ok so i just installed ubuntu over vista and now i cant get back into vista thru the grub
[21:56] <K_Dallas> stefg, i just bought the darn thing
[21:56] <core64> lol
[21:56] <offipso> odd-rationale: Ah, in the device manager, then, you might have to look around.. I know a bit about my card, so I was able to find it quickly.. It was under "nForce 2 AGP" (the AGP bus of my motherboard) and "GeForce 7800 GS"
[21:56] <offipso> odd-rationale: Unfrotuantely I don't know any good way to find that..
[21:57] <DM|> Jrattner1 actually, post a screenshot of your BOABAB screen maximized, can use image shack for the SS
[21:57] <core64> stefg: do you have a link to the bug report regarding the Intel card?
[21:57] <stefg> K_Dallas: bad luck, but as a linux user you learn quickly to check your hardware for compatibility *first*
[21:57] <Odd-rationale> offipso: Thanks!
[21:57] <jrattner1> DM|, sure one momeny
[21:57] <offipso> np
[21:57] <benjammin4> the partition is still on my computer i just need to find a way to make grub realize its there
[21:57] <ebirtaid> so anyone use arch in here
[21:57] <stefg> core64: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/120834
[21:57] <core64> u rock...
[21:58] <ToHellWithGA> can i allow network manager to automatically access my keyring at login?
[21:58] <olegfink> hi, we were talking about user interfaces and such, and considered that everything in linux needs to have a frontend to be useful on desktop. Hence this http://rafb.net/p/O0oWHT88.html is proposed to all newbies instead of an old-style rm -rf / in console
[21:58] <erUSUL> benjammin4: in the comments on /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an example on how to boot a windows install
[21:58] <benjammin4> thanks
[21:58] <benjammin4> ill take a look
[21:58] <super-6-1> hello everyone, i have a  Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2-trayicon-perl error can anyone help?
[21:58] <PhinnFort> olegfink: nice, I'll take a look and recommend it to all my friends
[21:59] <ebirtaid> olegfink it worked wonders for me
[21:59] <iarwain1> Holy Cow, IT IS " rm -rf /" !!
[21:59] <erUSUL> !ops | olegfink Dangerous commands
[21:59] <ubotu> olegfink Dangerous commands: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[21:59] <jrattner1> DM|, I can't save the image to upload LOL, it ays theres no enough space
[21:59] <offipso> iarwain1: who are you responding to?
[21:59] <PhinnFort> erUSUL: please don't misuse the !ops
[22:00] <PriceChild> OleMoudi, iarwain1 please never type commands like that in this channel.
[22:00] <Amaranth> PhinnFort: err
[22:00] <ompaul> LjL, ?
[22:00] <PhinnFort> erUSUL: rather join #ubuntu-dev and notify
[22:00] <ompaul> LjL, pm
[22:00] <sake> hmm
[22:00]  * eth01 *sighs*
[22:00] <erUSUL> PhinnFort: fair enough
[22:01] <sake> jaki był polski kanał ??
[22:01] <ompaul> iarwain1, never repeat that in this channel thanks
[22:01] <DM|> jrattner1 save it on your other HDD
[22:01] <LjL> ompaul, PhinnFort, is it me or you who are stoned? i think that guy just gave a front-end to rm rf... "proposed to all newbies"...
[22:01] <PhinnFort> erUSUL: it makes all kind of bells and whistles start in all the operators clients
[22:01] <eth01> i'm booting my 7.10 machine, and it locks on a black screen, goes no further..
[22:01] <ompaul> LjL, got it
[22:01] <PriceChild> PhinnFort, erUSUL pardon?
[22:01] <ompaul> LjL, I saw a second version
[22:01] <ebirtaid> ljl I didnt see anything like that
[22:01] <PriceChild> PhinnFort, erUSUL !ops is the best way to get our attention.
[22:01] <corruptionoflulz> LjL I also saw that.
[22:01] <ompaul> erUSUL, what you did was right
[22:01] <LjL> [22:58:07] <olegfink> hi, we were talking about user interfaces and such, and considered that everything in linux needs to have a frontend to be useful on desktop. Hence this http://rafb.net/p/O0oWHT88.html is proposed to all newbies instead of an old-style rm -rf / in console (PLEASE don't run that script)
[22:02] <sake> #ubuntu_pl
[22:02] <LjL> err?
[22:02] <riotkittie> errr.
[22:02] <PhinnFort> LjL: can you change the ban to olegfink@ip instead?
[22:02] <eth01> why does my ubuntu 7.10 boot into a black screen, once past grub loading?
[22:02] <benjammin4> how do i know which root my windows vista is in?
[22:02] <PhinnFort> LjL: he is on a public server
[22:02] <erUSUL> ompaul: thanks, glad to be helpfull
[22:02] <wizofoz> is there some special reason i cannot type "_" on firefox logins or pidgin?
[22:02] <Andycasss> Is there any way to make my user equivalent to root? So i wouldnt have to type sudo everytime?
[22:03] <jrattner1> DM|, it wont let me save it anywhere
[22:03] <slowbmw> ubuntu vs centos? is this a good idea for learning the certs?
[22:03] <usser> Andycasss, this is not a good idea
[22:03] <corruptionoflulz> Andycasss: it's possible, but it's highly unrecommended.
[22:03] <ompaul> !root | Andycasss (what you suggest is a bad idea this might help you)
[22:03] <ubotu> Andycasss (what you suggest is a bad idea this might help you): Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:03] <LjL> PhinnFort: he's the only user connect to that IP as far as i can see
[22:03] <stefg> Andycasss: no...
[22:03] <Andycasss> Thing is, I want my server to turn off when it reaches over 70C', but I cant use shutdown without sudo
[22:03] <ebirtaid> slowbmw what are you even asking
[22:03] <PhinnFort> LjL: ok
[22:03] <PhinnFort> LjL: I'm just forwarding what he asked me
[22:03] <core64> Andycasss: is it a script?
[22:03] <PriceChild> PhinnFort, -ops please.
[22:04] <PhinnFort> PriceChild: am there
[22:04] <DM|> jrattner1 well you have bigger problems than i thought, look at your "computer" under Places>Computer
[22:04] <PriceChild> Andycasss, your bios will shut the machine down when things get dangerous.
[22:04] <DM|> jrattner1 tell me how many HDDs you have their
[22:04] <benjammin4> How do I know which root my Windows Vista is under is it (hd0,0) or (hd0,1)
[22:04] <narothepharoh> how do i become root in a terminal?
[22:04] <PriceChild> !root | narothepharoh
[22:04] <ubotu> narothepharoh: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:04] <Andycasss> Im a bit scared that my cpu/psu might fail when noone is at home...
[22:04] <offipso> haha
[22:04] <jrattner1> DM|, I see CD-RW/DVD+RW then 12.1 GB Volume: Music and then Filesystem
[22:04] <PriceChild> Andycasss, your bios will shut the machine down when things get dangerous.
[22:04] <offipso> @ the !root listing
[22:04] <JimboDeLimbo> when I mount an external usb hdd, it is always write protected because it says the owner is root
[22:05] <DM|> benjammin4 you can check your /boot/grub/menu.lst to see what HDD it boots up
[22:05] <core64> Andycasss: did you attempt to write a script to automate shutdown?
[22:05] <DM|> jrattner1 save the pic to Music volume
[22:05] <PriceChild> JimboDeLimbo, that's not standard behaviour.
[22:05] <Andycasss> core64: no, im not that skilled
[22:05] <jrattner1> DM|, ok I'll try brb
[22:05] <Marcusklaas> I have a question concerning Remote Desktop. I just tested my system in a local network and it works just fine. How can I login to it from the internet?
[22:05] <super-6-1> jimvoDeLimdo, restart your pc and plug it in that how mine works
[22:05] <ru_Val> hi everybody! Has anybody ubuntu installed  on AMD Turion 64 X2?
[22:05] <K_Dallas> stefg, i was googling and learning about compiz and stuff. it seems that gm965 is blacklisted but in which config file and what happens if i just uncomment it, could i recover from possible problems?
[22:05] <slowbmw> ebi: i don't even know... i'm at work, and in big trouble... even after resetting the jumpers i can't even get into bios
[22:06] <zstars> I never chose a root password when installing ubuntu, what's the default root password?
[22:06] <erUSUL> benjammin4: if it's the first partition it's (hd0,0) (on the first drive that's it)
[22:06] <Odd-rationale> Is there a log of this channel?
[22:06] <ebirtaid> zstars there isnt one
[22:06] <JimboDeLimbo> my external works, but I just tried to hook up my friends, and it did that. super-6-1 I tried that too
[22:06] <erUSUL> !root > zstars
[22:06] <core64> Marcusklaas: are you behind NAT router? like linksys?
[22:06] <zstars> oh
[22:06] <Marcusklaas> Core64: Yup.
[22:06] <ebirtaid> sudo su
[22:06] <erUSUL> zstars: see the ubotu p msg
[22:06] <zstars> ty :)
[22:06] <benjammin4> erUSUL: Ok thanks I'll try switching Ubuntu to (hd0,1) and Vista to (hd0,0)
[22:06] <JimboDeLimbo> ah that's the command I couldnt remember
[22:07] <core64> Marcusklaas: you'll need to use port forwarding
[22:07] <Marcusklaas> I know.
[22:07] <Marcusklaas> Isn't there any other way?
[22:07] <JimboDeLimbo> ebirtaid: sudo su makes me root, right?
[22:07] <Marcusklaas> Using IPv6?
[22:07] <PriceChild> JimboDeLimbo, no
[22:07] <erUSUL> benjammin4: if ubuntu is booting fine you do not have to change anything
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> !log
[22:07] <JimboDeLimbo> oh
[22:07] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[22:07] <narothepharoh> i am trying to install acetone iso i have it extracted and im running a terminal in the folder but i still cant do it any suggestions?
[22:07] <silverblade> i recently installed Kubuntu on my laptop and im able to browse my desktop's samba shares within Dolphin fine, but if i try mount -t smbfs on it, and then ls the mountpoint, whatever im using hangs
[22:07] <PriceChild> JimboDeLimbo, why do you want root?
[22:07] <super-6-1> can any one help with a libgtk2-trayicon problem?
[22:07] <ebirtaid> yes
[22:07] <ebirtaid> what do you mean no pricechild
[22:07] <Amaranth> benjammin4: you can just make grub pretend hd0,1 is hd0,0 for vista
[22:07] <Andycasss> But would it be possible to use something like "sudo -p (pass) (command)"?
[22:07] <LjL> olegfink|ubuntu, ban evading is NOT acceptable
[22:07] <JimboDeLimbo> PriceChild, only to move files from one usb external to the other
[22:07] <core64> Marcusklaas: i dont' know anything about ipv6. you could try hamachi
[22:07] <PriceChild> JimboDeLimbo, either muont it properly, or use sudo
[22:07] <chewy_> has anyone tried the alpha 1? Buggy? I wanna try it :p
[22:08] <JimboDeLimbo> kk
[22:08] <zstars> Stupid question, how do I convert    su -c "something" to   sudo?
[22:08] <PriceChild> ebirtaid, whoops it does work, though still not reccomended at all.
[22:08] <core64> chewy_: i'll try it right now, u got a link?
[22:08] <PriceChild> zstars, why on earth?
[22:08] <jrattner1> DM|, http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testtc0.jpg
[22:08] <zstars> I don't have much idea of what I am doin
[22:08] <chewy_> core64: no, but i remembered alpha1 released yesterday.
[22:08] <zstars> I wanna run some haskell install script
[22:08] <DM|> jrattner1 you done alot of upgrading ? or is this a straght install?
[22:08] <core64> chewy_: im going to get it
[22:08] <zstars> If I just try to run it it says I've no priviledges or something
[22:08] <jrattner1> DM|, straight install
[22:09] <chewy_> ok
[22:09] <nomojob> For some reason Totem wont play .wmv files from the web OR from my desktop.  It just sits there with a black screen.  Any help?
[22:09] <core64> chewy_: in case you wondering, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[22:09] <PriceChild> zstars, what are you trying to do?
[22:09] <jrattner1> DM|, I don't understand this, I didnt think I was anywhere near capacity...this just started happening when I booted my laptop today
[22:09] <erUSUL> zstars: what are you installing? ghc is the repos
[22:09] <DM|> jrattner1 gimme  a sec thinking
[22:09] <ebirtaid> jrattner do du /
[22:09] <chewy_> thx core64
[22:09] <jrattner1> DM|, k :)
[22:09] <erUSUL> zstars: and hugs
[22:09] <ebirtaid> or install ncdu it will make it easier
[22:10] <DM|> jrattner1 can you unmount your /media/disk for me
[22:10] <K_Dallas> Q: Where is the compiz config file located under ubuntu? Couldnt find it in ~/.config/compiz
[22:10] <richo> how can i make a link from var/www/apache to var/ftp/www     i wanna change stuff into my webbpage via ftp.
[22:10] <zstars> I'm installing some haskell package
[22:10] <jrattner1> DM|, ok now what
[22:10] <zstars> Not haskell itself, but a specific haskell package :(
[22:10] <ebirtaid> which one
[22:10] <DM|> jrattner1 once its unmounted, have baobab scan your filesystem again
[22:10] <Andycasss> would it be possible to use something like "sudo -p (pass) (command)" so i could enter the pass with the command?
[22:10] <jrattner1> DM|, wait...it says its not mounted
[22:10] <jrattner1> should I just turn it off?
[22:11] <erUSUL> zstars: i see.... do "sudo -i" and you will get a kind of "root shell"
[22:11] <DM|> is it USB?
[22:11] <zstars> utf8-string
[22:11] <nomojob> For some reason Totem wont play .wmv files from the web OR from my desktop.  It just sits there with a black screen.  Any help?
[22:11] <zstars> oh ok ty I'll try that
[22:11] <erUSUL> !w32codecs | nomojob
[22:11] <ubotu> nomojob: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[22:11] <DM|> jrattner1: is this music "" folder on a USB HDD?
[22:11] <erUSUL> zstars: when you are done type exit
[22:11] <neur2> why are there so many updates lately
[22:11] <K_Dallas> !w32codecs | K_Dallas
[22:11] <nomojob> erUSUL: thanks
[22:11] <DM|> !botabuse K_Dallas
[22:12] <erUSUL> nomojob: no problem
[22:12] <K_Dallas> sorry
[22:12] <Chuckles> chuckles
[22:12] <jrattner1> DM|, Music is a partition on my laptops internal hardrive.  I'm assuming that disk is my external hardrive..but I could be wrong
[22:12] <erUSUL> nomojob: for gstreamer tu use w32codecs you also need gstreamer***pitfdll
[22:12] <core64> he typed it once?
[22:12] <nomojob> erUSUL: how do I install them?
[22:12] <DM|> jrattner1 disconnect any USB HDD flash card or w/e
[22:12] <erUSUL> !codecs > nomojob
[22:12] <narothepharoh> i am trying to install acetone iso i have it extracted and im running a terminal in the folder but i still cant do it any suggestions?
[22:12] <K_Dallas> DM|  i was just about to see which packages i needed for playing music and movies and swa that line
[22:12] <DM|> jrattner1 since i dont know your setup , it looks like everything is fine to me
[22:13] <DM|> K_Dallas aye, but someone just asked the bot for that link
[22:13] <erUSUL> nomojob: dl the deb package from medibuntu or add medibuntu to your sources
[22:13] <core64> narothepharoh: isn't there a deb package for acetone?
[22:13] <seekay> i'm looking for something that's probably a one-liner... is there a way to list all of the packages installed on my system and which license each one uses? i would settle for just a way to query a package for which license it uses and i can script out the other junk myself
[22:13] <erUSUL> !codecs > K_Dallas
[22:13] <jrattner1> DM|, ok everything is disconnected
[22:13] <pbn> Hello, NetworkManager set my default network interface as eth2 I would like it to be eth0 how can I do that ?
[22:13] <DM|> jrattner1 have baobab rescan
[22:13] <core64> seekay: dpkg -l
[22:13] <jrattner1> k
[22:14] <Andycasss> Where does the awstats put its /cgi-bin/ dir? Couldnt find it under ~/www
[22:14] <grayscale> hi, do you guys by chance have a link to an FAQ on how to set up Samba?
[22:14] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, thanks but would they be available on the DVD or i have to ge tthem directly from the internet
[22:14] <DM|> jrattner1 make sure u select "scan filesystem"
[22:14] <core64> seekay: from the command line
[22:14] <seekay> core64: that just lists all packages installed
[22:14] <seekay> i need license info
[22:14] <DM|> jrattner1 you installed from a live CD aye?
[22:14] <jrattner1> DM|, yes from the DVD
[22:14] <justin420> can anybody tell me how to start zoneminder? i already installed the package, just want to start and configure zoneminder.
[22:14] <core64> seekay: like if its open source or something?
[22:14] <PsyDeViL> hi every1
[22:14] <seekay> doesn't each .deb have the license in there as a property?
[22:14] <nomojob> erUSUL: if I add medibuntu to my sources, can I then dl from Synaptic?  How do I add to my sources?
[22:14] <wizofoz> anyone knows why i cant type "_" aka underscore on my pidgin?
[22:14] <seekay> yeah like GPL, LGPL, BSD, etc
[22:14] <core64> oh
[22:14] <core64> nvm
[22:15] <PhenomX4> what's with all the people saying "my <app here>"?
[22:15] <PriceChild> seekay, each deb contains a "copyright" file.
[22:15] <erUSUL> !medibuntu > nomojob
[22:15] <PhenomX4> "my beryl" "my pidgin" "my firefox" :P
[22:15] <Satanz> There are microsoft morons on freenode called "Armand", "spot" and stuff... I, Magnus-swe want to remove those and hope most think like me.
[22:15] <seekay> yeah i know those are in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
[22:15] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Satanz
[22:15] <ubotu> Satanz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:15] <seekay> but i just need the license name, not the contents
[22:15] <PsyDeViL> can any1 help me out
[22:15] <PriceChild> seekay, it isn't that simple
[22:15] <Satanz> offtopic | PriceChild You are talking to a coder
[22:15] <PhenomX4> wizofoz; what happens exactly?
[22:15] <jimcooncat> !resolution
[22:15] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:16] <nomojob> !medibuntu
[22:16] <DM|> jrattner1: again post your SS
[22:16] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:16] <PhenomX4> Satanz; :D
[22:16] <Satanz> :=)
[22:16] <PriceChild> seekay, I'm currently working on a package which contains apache2 and gpl licensed software, as well as custom stuff
[22:16] <PhenomX4> Satanz; the people who spam the bot are off topic IMHO :)
[22:16] <PsyDeViL> im having trouble with booting of edgy/eft live CD
[22:16] <Satanz> Ok, sink that fucker in fedora and ill code even more
[22:16] <seekay> but when you create the deb isn't one of the properties "License" ?
[22:16] <PriceChild> !guidelines > PhenomX4
[22:16] <PhenomX4> PriceChild; just stop.
[22:16] <PriceChild> grrrrr
[22:16] <super-6-1> hello everyone, i have a  Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2-trayicon-perl error can anyone help
[22:17] <Satanz> I have 16 mbit pipe on the idiot and he wont die
[22:17] <PsyDeViL> feisty and gutsy dont boot of aswell on normal install But in safe mode graphics they can boot
[22:17] <Andycasss> So noone knows where awstats keeps its cgi-bin dir?
[22:17] <LjL> PhenomX4, stop what?
[22:18] <jrattner1> DM|, here is new the new scan: http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blahg1.png
[22:18]  * PhenomX4 waits for helpful feedback from wizofoz
[22:18] <core64> I just realized that gParted wont let me create NTFS on this 64-bit, whys that?
[22:18] <PriceChild> seekay, So yes... one package may have several different licenses in.
[22:18] <PriceChild> seekay, its complicated and requires reading each and every copyright file.
[22:18] <DM|> jrattner1: thats the same thing
[22:18] <PhenomX4> LjL; /ignore has solved my botspamming problems. don't worry about it.
[22:18] <DM|> jrattner whats the size of this hard drive?
[22:18] <PhenomX4> yes, I put the bot on /ignore.
[22:19] <jrattner1> DM|, one moment
[22:19] <nomojob> is there a way to refresh my screen?  I logged in to Synaptic and now there is a permanent gray border where the login screen was.  It stays on top of all windows and wont disappear.
[22:19] <jrattner1> DM|, thats the new scan
[22:19] <corruptionoflulz> nomojob: all i can think of would be restarting x
[22:19] <LjL> PhenomX4, ok, but then please don't complain if an operator gives some important advice through the bot and you don't get to see it...
[22:19] <DM|> jrattner1 ah, none of the drives are unmounted thats why i ask, how big is the HDD though?
[22:20] <miko3k> nomojob: maybe something is still running ... xkill could help :-)
[22:20] <nomojob> miko3k: check processes mayber?
[22:20] <axz> hi there
[22:20] <seekay> PriceChild: ok yeah looking back at the sample control file for creating .deb's i realize now that "license" is not a field...
[22:20] <jrattner1> DM|, that weird, cause its not even connected...bother the internal and external are 80gb
[22:20] <nomojob> maybe
[22:20] <PhenomX4> LjL; taken into consideration upon ending the command :) thank you for the look-out, though.
[22:20] <PhenomX4> s/ending/entering/
[22:20] <axz> Anyone any idea whwere to find nvidia drivers?
[22:21] <axz> !nvidia
[22:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:21] <miko3k> nomojob : maybe ... :-) have no idea ... but you re saying it on top of all windows so i'm almost sure it's still running ...
[22:21] <PsyDeViL> !boot options
[22:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot options - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:21] <miko3k> nomojob maybe simple killall -9 synaptic could help
[22:21] <PsyDeViL> !livecd
[22:21] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[22:21] <nomojob> miko3k: is there a shortcut to open the proccesses manager?
[22:22] <DM|> jrattner1 unless you have your partition mounted as /media/Music im not sure, unless you didnt allocate enough disk space for your /home/user FS
[22:22] <PsyDeViL> !safe graphics
[22:22] <DM|> jrattner1 which i think that may be the case
[22:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about safe graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:22] <miko3k> nomojob have no idea, i always open console and use ps :-D
[22:22] <erUSUL> !botabuse > PsyDeViL
[22:22] <jrattner1> DM|, where did all the space go?
[22:23] <jrattner1> DM|, it wasn't like this a the last time i booted up
[22:23] <DM|> jrattner1 if you dont put enough space available in your primary partition, it will say 100% used. because everything in your profile goes to /home/usr
[22:23] <PsyDeViL> hmm
[22:23] <PsyDeViL> what was there to bot abuse.
[22:23] <DM|> jrattner1 you isntalled stuff aye? you changed things, ..... How big is your primary partition?
[22:23] <PsyDeViL> i was just tryng to get some help
[22:23] <justin420> is anybody at all using zoneminder on ubuntu gutsy? i want to configure/setup my zoneminder but cant figure out how
[22:23] <narothepharoh> i am trying to install acetone iso i have it extracted and im running a terminal in the folder but i still cant do it any suggestions?
[22:23] <jeezmos> I'm trying to get a dual monitor system up in Ubuntu Gusty,but under System > Screens and Monitors it only gives me the option to choose "Default" or "Disabled" (the "Secondary Monitor" is greyed out).  Can any make any suggestions on what I should look at to resolve this?
[22:24] <miko3k> hi ... anyone knows how to install ruby headers ? i can't find libruby-dev or ruby-dev or something ...
[22:24] <erUSUL> PsyDeViL: see the p msg from ubotu.... basically if you want to ask the bot /msg ubotu factoid so you do not flood the channel
[22:24] <pike_> !dualhead | jeezmos
[22:24] <PsyDeViL> ok thanks
[22:24] <ZaNGaMaN> hy there
[22:24] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, what command are you trying to run?
[22:24] <jrattner1> DM|, according to gparted, the size of my primary is 29.29GB
[22:24] <ubotu> jeezmos: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[22:24] <ZaNGaMaN> i need some help
[22:24] <jeezmos> thanks
[22:24] <jrattner1> and /dev/sda4 (my MUSIC) is 12.10
[22:25] <ZaNGaMaN> i am starting from scratch with ubuntu can enyone tell me from where to start and learn
[22:25] <erUSUL> PsyDeViL: it is better for you (you do not miss the answer for scrolling) and for us
[22:25] <narothepharoh> mastershrek: im not sure ive tried numerous commands
[22:25] <DM|> jrattner1 and what is /media/disk?
[22:25] <corruptionoflulz> !ask | ZaNGaMaN
[22:25] <ubotu> ZaNGaMaN: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:25] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, hang on, let me get the source tarball
[22:25] <LjL> gah, was registered
[22:25] <MasterShrek> ty PriceChild
[22:25] <seyl> Thanks..Filesender was annoying
[22:26] <YeTr2_> ahh! stop the fedora!
[22:26] <CoasterMaster> oh, so I wasn't the only one :)
[22:26] <Slashx> are there consumer motherboards that can run multiple processors besides the one used in the mac pro
[22:26] <PriceChild> !traffic
[22:26] <jernster> what the eff
[22:26] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[22:26] <seyl> me too
[22:26] <chewy_> :|
[22:26] <mjbrooks> !ops   Filesender is flooding me with Fedora.iso sends
[22:26] <corruptionoflulz> ZaNGaMaN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/Guide
[22:26] <grayscale> does anyone know why after samba is installed and "configured", that i can see the WINS listing for the ubuntu box, but I cannot access any of the resources?
[22:26] <super-6-1> bot?
[22:26] <meuserj> wow, that was annoying
[22:26] <pbn> DCC SEND from FileSender [123.34.34.12 port 40000]: Fedora-8-i386-DVD.iso  [855197579048MB bytes] requested in channel #ubuntu
[22:26] <chewy_> lame
[22:26] <PsyDeViL> the ones with that worked with ati propri. 28.8.8 driver
[22:26] <calc> Slashx: there aren't consumer chips that can run multiprocessor
[22:26] <musashi1> jrattner1: space gets a bit off too becuse by default 5% is reserved on any partition.
[22:26] <calc> Slashx: so probably not
[22:26] <Marcusklaas> I'm getting spammed by fedora
[22:26] <mkquist> so this is a bot attack thingy?
[22:26] <jrattner1> DM|, when I start gparted it warnts that Error: File system was not cleanly unmounted!  You should run e2fsck
[22:26] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[22:26] <DM|> LJL whats going on , why so many bans
[22:26] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[22:26] <Marcusklaas> !traffic
[22:26] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[22:26] <Slashx> Oh
[22:26] <Slashx> ijay
[22:26] <Slashx> OKay
[22:27] <jrattner1> So how I remedy this situation?
[22:27] <calc> Slashx: you can get workstation boards that are probably what you are looking for
 I'm getting spammed by fedora <== it was a user, calling themselves FileSender, who was spamming users in this channel
[22:27] <narothepharoh> mastershrek: did you send me that?
[22:27] <justin420> wtf filesender? seems to me that there is anothe bot in the chatroom. seems to me like the ops need to do their job better. :)
[22:27] <Slashx> No it is the Mac Pro
[22:27] <deadcandance> hmmm
[22:27] <rob3r> what was up with the Fedora spam? Thought I was running Windows for a second....
[22:27] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, no
[22:27] <seyl> It's gone now
[22:27] <super-6-1> any one that knows something about ubuntu bored and can help me?
[22:27] <calc> Slashx: mac pro doesn't use desktop chips to begin with...
[22:27] <Marcusklaas> Is there a virtual machine server for linux?
[22:27] <PriceChild> !ask | super-6-1
[22:27] <ubotu> super-6-1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:27] <Slashx> Which by using multiple processors can reach Oct Core
[22:27] <super-6-1> i did
[22:27] <narothepharoh> someone sent me a fedora dvdiso?
[22:27] <calc> Slashx: which is partially why it is so expensive compared to regular pc's
[22:27] <Anthology> whats your question super-6-1
[22:28] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, did you get the tarball for gnome or the regular one?
[22:28] <LjL> justin420, willing to help by starting not to flood the channel with irrelevant comments after attacks? thank you.
[22:28] <super-6-1> i have a  Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2-trayicon-perl error
[22:28] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, apparently theres a different one for gnome
[22:28] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, yes it was a spammer, hes gone now
[22:28] <justin420> LjL; shut up
[22:28] <John_R> justin420: /ignore *!*@* DCC
[22:28] <super-6-1> Anthology, iv tried everything
[22:28] <John_R> some people just haev to do it the hard way :(
[22:28] <jrattner1> DM|, what is /media/disk??????/ I don't have my external HDD hooked up and I get still cd into it
[22:29] <narothepharoh> mastershrek: i got nothing
[22:29] <corruptionoflulz> Oh man it's funny when people try to go against ops in irc.
[22:29] <Marcusklaas> Is there a virtual machine server for linux?
[22:29] <John_R> marcus: vmware
[22:29] <seyl> Virtualbox
[22:29] <Marcusklaas> Isn't that for windows?
[22:29] <John_R> nope
[22:29] <seyl> it runs on linux,too
[22:29] <John_R> vmware is multiplatform
[22:29] <Lattyware> WTF was the Fedora ISO spam?
[22:29] <Marcusklaas> Why do I need Wine then?
[22:29] <Anthology> super-6-1: do you have a question?
[22:29] <narothepharoh> mastershrek how do i open a file of tar.gz?
[22:29] <keanu> Lattyware, a bot
[22:29] <seyl> wine is an api layer
[22:29] <MasterShrek> Marcusklaas, its for both, vmware-server is also available, but virtualbox is better imho
[22:29] <Lattyware> fun stuff
[22:29] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, double click it
[22:30] <John_R> right now i have windows xp, debian 4, openbsd, and solaris 10 all running in vm's on an ubuntu box using vmware
[22:30] <super-6-1> Anthology, here iv said it when you asked i dont mean to sound mad    i have a  Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2-trayicon-perl error
[22:30] <Marcusklaas> Will I need Wine for virtualbox?
[22:30] <seyl> no
[22:30] <seyl> they are independent
[22:30] <excitatory> so i'm attempting to setup dual displays..  on a fresh gutsy install, xrandr reports both of my monitors with accurate details.  after i install the restricted ati driver, xrandr only reports one screen.. is this normal?  should i use the free driver?  is there a good guide for this?
[22:30] <Marcusklaas> Awesome, I'm going for that one then :)
[22:30] <chazco> Hi... i have an IR remote control which has buttons such as "Home", "Music" etc... they generate codes in showkeys when pressed. Any idea how to use them to perform actions (e.g. home launch nautilus)..? Some of them already work (e.g. power, mute)
[22:30] <jrattner1> DM|, do you know what I think?  I have my backup software writing to /media/disk assuming that its my HDD...but I think  its just wrting to that directory instead of the device
[22:30] <MasterShrek> !virtualbox | Marcusklaas
[22:30] <ubotu> Marcusklaas: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[22:30] <ZaNGaMaN> corruptionoflulz
[22:30] <CoasterMaster> Is there anyway to restart gnome-panel?
[22:31] <tdoggette> I'm trying to improve my sound using the tutorial located at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto and it just killed my sound entirely. How can I get my sound back and, ideally autodetected, like it was when I first installed 7.10?
[22:31] <MasterShrek> narothepharoh, whats the filename of the acetone program u downloaded?
[22:31] <excitatory> CoasterMaster: killall -9 gnome-panel && gnome-panel  ?
[22:31] <corruptionoflulz> ZaNGaMaN: ??
[22:31] <pg> When upgrading to a new Ubuntu release, how can I install all the same packages as my old installation?
[22:31] <CoasterMaster> excitatory, i guess that will work, lol thanks
[22:31] <Anthology> super-6-1: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=521260
[22:31] <MasterShrek> i think if u kill it it will come back automatically
[22:32] <PriceChild> !clone | pg
[22:32] <ubotu> pg: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[22:32] <T1m0thy> How do you corrupt lulz? >.>
[22:32] <aricz> Hi, anyone know how to format a SD card in linux? I want to format it to FAT16.. :]
[22:32] <ZaNGaMaN> i am an xp advanced bat i am an linux newbie ,where can i get more information about using ubuntu ?? or where to start reading about linux?
[22:32] <excitatory> MasterShrek: could be.. i'm a kde guy myself.. so i wouldn't know.
[22:32] <corruptionoflulz> ZaNGaMaN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/Guide
[22:32] <pg> thanks, PriceChild!
[22:32] <MasterShrek> as am i excitatory
[22:32] <ZaNGaMaN> corruptionoflulz that to small and is not teaching me much
[22:33] <Pelo> ZaNGaMaN,  depends on what you had in  mind , you can start with those they will give you some basics about lin in general  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[22:33] <DanThirst> any one think they'd be able to help me get my radeon 9800 working with gusty, that and i have a wide screen monitor too.  every time i try i screw up and have to format and reinstall
[22:33] <DM|> jrattner1: why do you have backup software already on a new install ?
[22:33] <Pelo> DanThirst,  you don't need to re-install each time you screw up, you just need to reconfigure x ,  did you try the restricted driver first ?
[22:34] <jrattner1> DM|, because I would rather not loose my school work for some random reason
[22:34] <marvins>  /server ir.cl
[22:34] <DM|> anyway to ignore those messages LjL?
[22:34] <marvins> exit
[22:34] <DanThirst> i know that Pelo but my screen will not draw so i can't edit anything
[22:34] <tdoggette> Is there any way to make Ubuntu re-install sound just as it is after a fresh install?
[22:34] <super-6-1> Anthology, uninstall pidgin?
[22:34] <pg> !automate
[22:34] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[22:35] <Gun_Smoke> Is there a way to see what are the biggest files/folders on my system?
[22:35] <corruptionoflulz> Anyone else using xchat-gnome here? manage to find a way to hide join and part mssgs?
[22:35] <pike_> DanThirst: typically you can 1. alt-ctrl-f2  2. login  3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  4. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:35] <LjL> DM|: attacks? hardly. you can ignore some of them, the dangerous ones... for instance, mode +C makes you ignore all CTCPs, and you should also connect to port 8001 to avoid some exploits
[22:35] <LjL> !modes > DM|    (DM|, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:35] <Pelo> DanThirst,  you just need to boot the recovery mode from the boot menu ( grub) ,  if you don'T get the boot menu just hit the esc key right after the bios stuff is done wnhen you boot
[22:35] <pg> !cloning
[22:35] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[22:35] <LjL> !exploit > DM|    (DM|, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:35] <excitatory> Gun_Smoke: install filelight  you'll love it..
[22:35] <corruptionoflulz> +
[22:35] <jrattner1> DM|, I guess I'm going to just delete /media/disk and see if that frees things up
[22:35] <Pelo> DanThirst, did you try the restricted driver before trying the binairy ?  menu > system > admin > restricted driver
[22:35] <kazol> Does anyone know how to fix rendering issues (the screen flashing) due to compiz while using google earth or playing games?
[22:35] <DanThirst> blarg this channel moves to fast
[22:35] <DM|> LjL I have fixed that already, but its all the "chanserv and ubuntu +R"
[22:36] <DanThirst> yeah
[22:36] <zetheroo> how do you edit the dictionary which spell-checks in Firefox?
[22:36] <PriceChild> DM|, you probably want to keep that...
[22:36] <DanThirst> and where i would have gnome starting up a login screen i have a black screen
[22:36] <LjL> DM|, why would you ignore those?
[22:36] <chazco> Does anyone know if where i can specify keycodes for the "System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts" applet manually? e.g. a config file or similar
[22:36] <DanThirst> no signal actually
[22:36] <jannen> hi I installaed wicd but when I clic on it, it appaer 1/2 sec then its gone.
[22:36] <corruptionoflulz> kazol: seeing as compiz is still pretty unstable, it's probably not doable right now.
[22:36] <Pelo> DanThirst,  did you try the binairy driver ?
[22:36] <carnelain> can somebody help me to get the wireless and bluetooth buttons on an acer aspire 9420 to work?
[22:36] <jrattner1> DM|, that must be the problem! /media/disk is 20 gigs!
[22:36] <DanThirst> na don't know where to look
[22:36] <warriorforgod> jannen: Start wicd from a prompt and see if it gives any errors.
[22:36] <Pelo> carnelain, check you rmodel in the forum see if there is any advice  www.ubuntuforums.org
[22:36] <DM|> jrattner1 without having my hands on it i couldnt tell you, you more than likely did not allocate enough room to your primary partition.
[22:37] <zetheroo> I accidentally added a misspelled word to the Firefox dictionary... how do I remove it?
[22:37] <Pelo> !ati | DanThirst
[22:37] <ubotu> DanThirst: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:37] <DanThirst> heck im afraid to do that >_> don't know if i'll even beable to get to a console :-(
[22:37] <Gun_Smoke> excitatory: That looks nice.. I was wondering if there was something I could do in a terminal?
[22:37] <phiqtion> !amarokfs
[22:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarokfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:37] <DanThirst> Thanks Pelo
[22:37] <phiqtion> what is amarokfs
[22:37] <jannen> warriorforgod:ok
[22:37] <jrattner1> DM|, alright I appreciate the help
[22:37] <DM|> PriceChild LjL well its spam in this channel as it is, hard to read, and its just more stuff, trying to catch peoples messages and I'm blind as it is, plus im not a Moderator or Admin so..
[22:37] <[HUN]Zuburu> can sbdy help to connect my linux based comp to my windows network?
[22:37] <Pelo> DanThirst,  stay in this channel while you do the insatling of the binary driver so you can ask for help when you get to a command you donT' know / understant
[22:37] <DM|> jrattner1 np, sorry i couldnt help further
[22:38] <phiqtion> what is amarokfs
[22:38] <Pelo> [HUN]Zuburu,  you need to install and run samba to do this
[22:38] <corruptionoflulz> [HUN]Zuburu: connect it in what way? access samba shares? host samba shares? both?
[22:38] <PsyDeViL> hmm. can anyone suggest me what ubuntu version i should stick with.  i have tried gutsy , feisty , on my desktop and they install by using safe graphics mode.  However when i try to use edgy eft i can not boot into install.  The system crashes and i hear a beep and screen goes black. (if any1 could shed some light on boot options to use with f6).  The reason i am doing this is because my ati AGP card is not supported in fesity and gutsy.  
[22:38] <tranqui69> hi
[22:38] <zetheroo> anyone?
[22:38] <LjL> DM|, but mode +R for isntance means that only registered users can speak. you probably want to know about it, if for instance you're helping someone who's not registered
[22:38] <Pelo> phiqtion, amarok it's a music player
[22:38] <super-6-1> i have a  Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2-trayicon-perl error can anyone help?
[22:38] <jrattner1> DM|, its all good, I'm gonna take a risk and delete /media/disk
[22:38] <Pelo> zetheroo, anyone what ?
[22:38] <[HUN]Zuburu> install samba like a package?
[22:38] <Fekall> Hey I am using the latest build of Ubuntu under Gnome and I cant find the compiz configuration app.
[22:38] <Pelo> PsyDeViL,   gutsy is the latest, stick with that
[22:39] <zetheroo> Pelo:  I accidentally added a misspelled word to the Firefox dictionary... how do I remove it?
[22:39] <DM|> LjL ah, i see, didnt know. I dont know IRC all that well, even though ive been using it for 4 years
[22:39] <corruptionoflulz> Fekall: you have to dl it.
[22:39] <Fekall> oh
[22:39] <DM|> jrattner1 i dont endorse that but ok :_)
[22:39] <Pici> !ccsm | Fekall
[22:39] <Pelo> zetheroo,  ask in #firefox they probably know
[22:39] <Fekall> shoot
[22:39] <ubotu> Fekall: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[22:39] <tranqui69> can anyone help me with packman repositories?
[22:39] <excitatory> Gun_Smoke: run "df -h" from within whatever directory you want to examine
[22:39] <Fekall> is there a command that I can use in term that would do that
[22:39] <t4m1n0> does aynone here uses deluge ? I don't know where went tool bar :S How can I get back info for a files and peers... ? http://shrani.si/f/2z/LL/1OK7pghY/screenshotdeluge.jpg  anyone ?
[22:39] <timboy> hey i am sharing files on one machine with smb and can open the share fine on this laptop running gutsy however the other laptop can not see the share but can ping the box sharing. can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[22:39] <PsyDeViL> pelo - gutsy doesnt support the older ati driver which i need to get 3d acceleration
[22:39] <Pelo> Fekall, in system > prefs > appearance , last tab
[22:39] <gros> Hi. Is there a way to deactivate the Xinerama extension under X.org 1.4 ?
[22:39] <corruptionoflulz> [HUN]Zuburu: sudo apt-get install samba
[22:39] <Pelo> PsyDeViL,  install the binairy driver
[22:39] <[HUN]Zuburu> thank you
[22:40] <DM|> weird " FileSender has offered Fedora-8-i386-DVD.iso (-1 bytes"
[22:40] <jrattner1> DM|, too late its done...but now for some odd reason the disk analyser shows /media/Music being at 100%
[22:40] <carnelain> no entry in the forum found this: http://www.gratisweb.com/linuxaspire9424/ but it is in spanish
[22:40] <Gun_Smoke> excitatory: I'm like to have it start with / and work out from there.. And looking farther into filelight looks to only support KDE
[22:40] <jrattner1> DM|, it shows / at 100% even though I just deleted 20 gigs
[22:40] <DM|> jrattner1 empty trash
[22:40] <Pelo> timboy, in #samba maybe they know
[22:40] <jrattner1> DM|, I rm -fr it
[22:40]  * Pelo finds the channel realy hopping tonight , and might not be able to keep up 
[22:40] <corruptionoflulz> [HUN]Zuburu: that should let you access shares fine, hosting shares can get a bit complicated.
[22:40] <DM|> jrattner1 your "deleted items" go into ."username"-trash folder
[22:40] <samo> hi, i would need some help setting up my video card on my asus laptop (ati x700 - gutsy), can someone help me out ?
[22:40] <jrattner1> DM|, oh
[22:41] <Pelo> samo,  did you try the restricted driver first ?
[22:41] <erUSUL> !ati | samo
[22:41] <ubotu> samo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:41] <PsyDeViL> let me see if the binary driver suport my card -  i dont think it does.
[22:41] <jannen> warriorforgod :a alot of errors
[22:41] <DanThirst> its telling me to " sudo atp-get install restricted-manager-kde" is it going to matter if im using gnome .. or what is the "restricted-manager-kde" pack?
[22:41] <[HUN]Zuburu> unfortunately i haveto share my complete drive
[22:41] <DM|> jrattner1 its -rf far as i know. And i wont dare post the full command in here, so theres no problems, are you a regged user on irc?
[22:41] <[HUN]Zuburu> not the system but the secondary drive
[22:41] <Pelo> DanThirst, not realy, go ahead
[22:41] <DanThirst> alright thanks just wanted to make sure
[22:42] <Pelo> DanThirst,  actualy , that's for the restricted drivcer, skip to the bit abotu the binairy
[22:42] <jrattner1> DM|, yeh why?
[22:42] <DanThirst> whats the key strokes to get to consle login by the way
[22:42] <pike_> !ati| samo might help
[22:42] <ubotu> samo might help: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:42] <karl> what is the name for the ati driver package? not fglrx, but ati itself. I want to upgrade my driver.
[22:42] <corruptionoflulz> [HUN]Zuburu: search around the forums a bit for samba sharing guides, there are some good ones.
[22:42] <DM|> jrattner1 commands as powerful as those should be used with caution
[22:42] <Pelo> DanThirst,  in the guide when you are told someting with -kde in it you can probabaly replace that bit with -gnome
[22:42] <samo> !ati
[22:42] <samo> !ati|
[22:42] <ubotu> : To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:42] <[HUN]Zuburu> thank you i will do it
[22:42] <Pelo> !ati | samo
[22:42] <ubotu> samoplease see above
[22:43] <offipso> I just realized that a program on my computer (squid) is trying to send mail to the root user via sendmail, but it's being sent to "root" through gmail!
[22:43] <samo> thanks, i ll try with this guide u linked to
[22:43] <offipso> what's going on?
[22:43] <jake> hi guys, how to stop iptables firewall in ubuntu?
[22:43] <pike_> offipso: perfectly normal
[22:43] <warriorforgod> jake /etc/init.d/iptables stop
[22:43] <Pelo> offipso,  usualy those are just status reports or error msg
[22:43] <nomojob> Question:  A friend sent me a link that I think is supposed to be a flash video, but when I go there, it is just a white screen.  Any idea why?
[22:43] <jrattner1> DM|, i know...i destroyed an old slackware system that way :)  But my question is, why if I just deleted  20 gigs, is my HD still full...(I understand your trash argument, but I don't believe that rm -rf anything puts it into the trash"
[22:43] <pike_> nomojob: you have flash9 installed?
[22:43] <offipso> pike_, Pelo, but it's actually going out through my gmail account, which I use for email via fetchmail and mutt
[22:44] <DM|> jake its not a good idea to stop "iptables"
[22:44] <pike_> nomojob: in firefox goto   about:plugins  in the url field
[22:44] <nomojob> pike_: not sure.  let me check
[22:44] <Pelo> offipso, weird
[22:44] <jake> thanks warriorforgod.
[22:44] <DM|> jrattner1 it shouldnt no. try umount'ing the drive and remounting it
[22:44]  * Pelo gotta go , later folks
[22:44] <warriorforgod> jake see DM| response
[22:44] <PsyDeViL> pelo - 9250 is not going to work with binary driver for me. you need 9500 + cards :(  guess i have to stay with xp or i can try some other distro which will install legacy ati
[22:44] <jrattner1> DM|, ok
[22:44] <jrattner1> DM|, let me try a reboot
[22:44] <jrattner1> brb
[22:44] <rev0> can anyone help me with DNS A zones ?
[22:44] <excitatory> Gun_Smoke: well yes, it's a kde app, which if you don't mind installing a few libs, can run with no problem.. second df -h gives you root info.. and du -sh gives you directory specific info.. sorry
[22:44] <jake> i know,but i just want to debug.to see if it's firewall's problem.
[22:45] <offipso> pelo, for example, an email from my gmail to "root" saying, "/etc/cron.daily/logrotate: squid: ERROR: could not send signal 10 to process..."
[22:45] <rev0> can anyone help me with DNS A zones ? concerning making irc.domainname.com
[22:45] <DM|> jake "sudo apt-get install firestarter" then "gksudo firestarter" and press stop firewall
[22:45] <nomojob> pike_: Shockwave Flash 8.0 r99
[22:45] <Metal03> Hey there, I need to open ports on my comp to be able to play a game with a friend but I have no idea where I can do this in Ubuntu, can someone guide me pls?
[22:45] <rev0> Metal03 pm me
[22:46] <erUSUL> jake: 'sudo iptables -F' should clear all fw rules
[22:46] <corruptionoflulz> Metal03: it's very possible that you have to open them on your router instead of on the computer.
[22:46] <rev0> Metal03 ... You need to open them via your router
[22:46] <erUSUL> Metal03: if you didin't install any firewall the ports should be open
[22:46] <jake> sudo: /etc/init.d/iptables: command not found
[22:46] <rev0> Ubuntu by default
[22:46] <pike_> nomojob: get rid o' that old flash!
[22:46] <rev0> doenst have a firewall
[22:46] <zbou> join cbc
[22:46] <pike_> !flash9 | nomojob
[22:46] <ubotu> nomojob: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:46] <nomojob> pike_: hehe.  how
[22:46] <warriorforgod> jake sounds like iptables may not be the issue.
[22:46] <nomojob> ok
[22:46] <zbou> \join cbc
[22:47] <nomojob> pike_: thank!
[22:47] <mindslant_> Howdy.  I'm a computer teacher and I'm trying to get advice for buying a webcam for a music video we're shooting.  we're variably running edubuntu 6.06 - 7.10.  Any happy "it worked right out of the box" stories...or close?
[22:47] <nomojob> s
[22:47] <pike_> nomojob: np good luck
[22:47] <m1r> hello
[22:47] <erUSUL> jake: 'sudo iptables -L' will show the rules in use
[22:47] <m1r> whats with the 20 fedora core dvd downloads ?
[22:47] <PriceChild> m1r, spammer, fixed.
[22:47] <mkquist> m1r - bot
[22:48] <jake> you see, i can ping the server,but it refuse ssh,http,ftp connections.
[22:48] <Metal03> I set myself in the DMZ on the router...  but both computers are on the same LAN so it shouldn't be a problem...  Apparently Warcraft 3 needs ports opened even on a LAN to work (that what ppl on a forum said)
[22:48] <m1r> ok
[22:48] <warriorforgod> jake: do you have a router?
[22:49] <salah> what do you use for watching TV with your tv card in Linux?
[22:49] <PriceChild> salah, mythtv, tvtime
[22:49] <Fekall> ok..in what area would my compizconfig settings manager be?
[22:49] <knoppix> ewrrwerw
[22:50] <knoppix> test
[22:50] <jrattner1> DM|, much better :) Now I need to figure out why simple back up is causing this problem
[22:50] <PriceChild> Fekall, system > preferences
[22:50] <salah> PriceChild, what is recommended if I only want a simple application to watch TV?
[22:50] <patrickneville> hey has anyone had a problem/fixed compiz-fusion not letting you show desktop with a screen corner?
[22:50] <Fekall> thanks
[22:50] <PriceChild> salah, tvtime
[22:50] <salah> PriceChild, thanks :)
[22:50] <Dev_noob> Question:  How do I grep a fat32 volume named Leon?
[22:50] <pike_> salah: also for internet tv miro is ok kinda bloated and a few bugs still but ok
[22:50] <jake> i don't know! how can i check if i have a router or not?
[22:51] <bkar> !sound|bkar
[22:51] <miljnor> hello I am looking for info: installed efs on gutsy and am looking for different ways to input my pass phrase to decrypt the hd
[22:51] <ripdisk> can somone help me? my 3d desktop won't work no matter what I do
[22:52] <DM|> jrattner1 :)
[22:52] <mkquist> metal03 - try setting up both as 'virtual servers' with the same internal ports but different external ports?
[22:54] <zstars> Anyone knows how to install haskell libraries? Specifically Network.Socket?
[22:54] <timboy> hey i am sharing files on one machine with smb and can open the share fine on this laptop running gutsy however the other laptop can not see the share but can ping the box sharing. can someone help me troubleshoot this? asked in #samba they don't know.
[22:54] <Triskaidekaphobi> i have a forcedeth gigabit nic that seems to be running at 100mb, is this all that's available with the current module or is there a setting that i have missed.
[22:54] <Jefo> how can i store my wlan password, so it wont ask everytime i boot?
[22:54] <ikonia> Triskaidekaphobi: what nforce chip
[22:55] <gros> Hi. Is there a way to deactivate the Xinerama extension under X.org 1.4 ?
[22:55] <thor> timboy: do you have the same user/passwd on each machine?
[22:55] <timboy> yes
[22:55] <thor> timboy: how are you mounting the samba shares....smbmount or fusesmb?
[22:55] <carnelain> is there someone around who can read french and tell me what to do: http://www.mumblyworld.info/ubuntu/
[22:56] <miljnor> any one have experience with efs?
[22:56] <ikonia> miljnor: efs ?
[22:56] <MasterShrek> translate it at babelfish carnelain
[22:56] <samo> hi again, still having a hard time installing the ati driver, i followed he instructions but when doing fglrxinfo, i get the Xlib: conection to 0.0 refused by server
[22:56] <miljnor> encrypted file system
[22:56] <samo> google didnt help on it so far
[22:56] <timboy> thor, just browsing to smb://192.168.11.11/share
[22:56] <Metal03> Anyone know when the new wine is gonna be available for Ubuntu?
[22:56] <thor> timboy: I assume you have checked firewall settings on the blocked computer
[22:57] <cafuego> carnelain: Update sources.list for either gutsy or feisty (as indicated) and then install the gpg key (as shown)
[22:57] <J-_> why is it when I've installed a x11 cursor theme the cursor isn't themed on the desktop, but it is when I'm inside a program, or for example nautilus or firefox is loading something?
[22:57] <ikonia> miljnor: what is the question
[22:57] <timboy> thor, yes and it's clean
[22:57] <nomojob> pike_: still nothing.  Any other ideas?
[22:57] <ripdisk> oh ok they're at the doctor's
[22:57] <ripdisk> oops wrong channel
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> Metal03: Usually, it does not take very long for the latest version of wine to be available in the repoos.
[22:57] <timboy> thor, i can ping the box fine
[22:58] <thor> timboy: gnome on both computers?
[22:58] <nomojob> pike_: here is the site, can you see if it will play for you?  http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1117263390
[22:58] <timboy> thor, yes and gutsy on both computers
[22:58] <J-_> !cursor
[22:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cursor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:58] <miljnor> Yes I am trying to setup encyption on my hd i got it running but now I am looking at streamlining the startup
[22:58] <timboy> thor, and on the third computer that connects fine same
[22:58] <thor> timboy: are both computers on the same network?
[22:58] <samo> what is the solution to a Xlib: connection to 0.0 refused by server message ?
[22:58] <timboy> thor, yes
[22:58] <pike_> nomojob: omg that is disturbing
[22:59] <root_> hi guys.. i have a problem with configuring my NAT i want my LAN to be accessible from the outside internet and i dunno which ip adresses shall i use... my external ip is 78.98.135.222 and internal 192.168.1.110 and I want to make SSH work so port 22. I just wanna ask wether configuring my router for this NAT is ok. thanx in advance
[22:59] <nomojob> pike_: lol, i figured it was, but i dont know what it is
[22:59] <nomojob> haha
[22:59] <thor> timboy: do you have smbmount or fusesmb installed?
[22:59] <usser> root, u just have to forward port 22 to 192.168.1.110
[22:59] <usser> root, its gotta be in the router settings somewhere
[23:00] <timboy> thor, couldn't find smbmount but i have fusesmb now
[23:00] <nomojob> pike_: in Synaptic it says that Flash 9 is installed
[23:00] <pike_> nomojob: cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[23:00] <J-_> do cursor themes need to be in .themes too?
[23:00] <pike_> nomojob: then ls
[23:00] <thor> timboy: have you checked /var/log/messages to see if there is any info in the log?
[23:00] <root_> so I should forward ext.ip:22 to internal.ip:22 ???
[23:00] <pike_> nomojob: what is there?
[23:00] <kane_> does that happen to you too that somebody (I assume it's bot) tries to repeatedly send files through irc?
[23:00] <nomojob> k...
[23:00] <Metal03> Odd-rationale: I know it's usually not long but...  what is "lot long"...  hehehe!
[23:01] <miljnor> ikonia: you know of any way to input the rsa key other than by typing in the pass key
[23:01] <Fekall> hey I used to be able to move my windows by draggin the title bar on them but now I cant do it...is there a setting that I am missing
[23:01] <ikonia> miljnor: script
[23:01] <ZaNGaMaN> root_ the terminal is the root prompter?
[23:01] <edward_> is there  a faster way of shuting down the computer?
[23:01] <edward_> than HALT.. or shutdown -h now ???
[23:01] <kane_> edward_, suspending it?
[23:01] <Fekall> pull the plug?
[23:01] <root_> ZaNGaMaN > what?
[23:01] <StoneNote> electromagnet
[23:01] <timboy> thor, yes nothing
[23:01] <edward_> i mean i type this command it just goes ZIP>  off ... and its dead
[23:01] <nomojob> pike_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46373/
[23:02] <J-_> Fekall: lol
[23:02] <edward_> i wonder what kind of command it is?
[23:02] <Fekall> ;)
[23:02] <miljnor> ikonia: you have any samples?
[23:02] <ZaNGaMaN> root_ the terminal is the root cmd (prompter) or how i go too the root prompter?
[23:02] <Fekall> hey I used to be able to move my windows by draggin the title bar on them but now I cant do it...is there a setting that I am missing
[23:02] <kane_> edward_, suspend is prety fast...
[23:02] <edward_> no
[23:02] <thor> timboy: I would set up the config file for fusesmb (it is easy to do) and try to force a network mount.. By using a command you can issue in a terminal you can see some indication of what is going wrong. To be honest...I would be tempted to install smbmount just for testing and use it since it requires no (as I recall) configuration
[23:03] <kane_> edward_, other than that - just pull out the plug...
[23:03] <edward_> I have to shutdown like i press a key and its down for the count :D' that would be nice to have
[23:03] <root_> ZaNGaMaN > sorry but i just dunnowhat U wamt from me... i am a linux newb
[23:03] <edward_> even that takes time kane :D
[23:03] <root_> ok guys.. wish me luck with NAT... bye
[23:03] <ZaNGaMaN> can enyone tell me
[23:03] <nomojob> pike_: u get that?
[23:03] <ZaNGaMaN> the terminal is the root cmd (prompter) or how i go too the root prompter?
[23:03] <gary_inNYC> anyone here know how to set up XLink Kai in Gutsy?
[23:03] <n215> hi
[23:04] <n215> where do i specify default gateway for pppoe adsl connection?
[23:04] <n215> im using USB modem
[23:04] <kane77> how do I rename interface?
[23:04] <ZaNGaMaN> n215 in suno... somthing in terminal
[23:04] <thor> ZaNGaMaN: the terminal will open in whatever account you are logged into. To get to the root prompt you need to type 'su -' and then enter the root password when prompted
[23:04] <edward_> :(
[23:05] <ZaNGaMaN> thor su -
[23:05] <ZaNGaMaN> like that?
[23:05] <edward_> i think i need to modify the kill cmd line for the computer, and play with it to make it just Snap
[23:05] <thor> ZaNGaMaN su(space)-
[23:05] <pike_> nomojob: yeah. id remove that current flash one and sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[23:05] <ZaNGaMaN> tks thor
[23:05] <romulo> hi, how can I know a partition's UUID?
[23:05] <flush> yo question..
[23:06] <nomojob> pike_: remove through syaptic?
[23:06] <kane77> !uuid | romulo
[23:06] <ubotu> romulo: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[23:06] <flush> for an incredible unknown reason, my wifi says its connected to my access point, but access point doesnt show that my network card mac address is connected
[23:06] <flush> whats the matter
[23:06] <pike_> nomojob: if you want
[23:06] <ZaNGaMaN> Thor another questrion ,i wanted to instal xchat and it says to me that cannot instal cose there is another program like that what do i do??
[23:06] <pike_> nomojob: just make sure its not in that dir
[23:06] <nomojob> pike_: ok...
[23:06] <pike_> nomojob: mine compared to yours: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46374/
[23:06] <ndube> romulo - sudo vol_id -u device
[23:06] <n215> where do i specify default gateway for pppoe adsl connection? USB adsl modem
[23:07] <thor> ZaNGaMaN: you probably have xchat-gnome installed
[23:07] <miljnor> ikonia: can you give me an example of the script?
[23:07] <jacob> i'm getting really bad video quality in totem video player, can somebody help?
[23:07] <ZaNGaMaN> Thor and where do i fiind that program?
[23:07] <corruptionoflulz> jacob: is compiz on?
[23:07] <Sharpie> how can i see how long my internet connection's been up? (pppoe connection)
[23:07] <thor> ZaNGaMaN: issue that at  a terminal prompt....xchat-gnome'
[23:07] <thor> ZaNGaMaN: it should be in /usr/bin
[23:08] <zibrah3ed> walkover: Compiz and beryl rejoined
[23:08] <thor> ZaNGaMaN: you should see it if you type 'which xchat-gnome' in a terminal
[23:08] <jacob> corruptionoflulz: how do i do that?
[23:08] <ZaNGaMaN> ok thow i go now on linux if it work i come back here with xchat :D
[23:09] <corruptionoflulz> jacob: compiz, the window animations and such? is it on? go to system ->appearence then desktop effects
[23:09] <carnelain> can somebody help me installing this http://www.mumblyworld.info/ubuntu/ on gutsy (no clue what to do)
[23:10] <Tarantulafudge_> Can someone with an ATI 9200 with working compiz-fusion please pastebin their xorg.conf for me?
[23:10] <pike_> carnelain: do a google search like 'site:http://www.mumblyworld.info/ubuntu/' then click translate
[23:10] <pike_> carnelain: er it wont translate the urls right though so copy em from original page
[23:10] <carnelain> did that still have no clue
[23:11] <timboy> thor, can't find smbmount package...
[23:11] <nomojob> pike_: here is mine now, and it still doesnt work    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46375/
[23:11] <jayde_drag0n> does anyone in here know a lot about pidgin? i have a problem, i'm not sure if its a known bug or if someone has a fix.. and i can't find anything on google
[23:11] <nomojob> pike_: grrr...
[23:11] <jacob> corruptionoflulz: that has nothing to do with it
[23:11] <thor> timboy: give me a sec
[23:11] <corruptionoflulz> jacob: i often get my totem player slowed down when compiz is running.
[23:11] <pike_> nomojob: dont growl at me!
[23:12] <nomojob> pike_: lol
[23:12] <jacob> corruptionoflulz: no, it's not my case. i just turned off the effects and the quality is still bad
[23:12] <nomojob> pike_: i want to punch my comp
[23:12] <corruptionoflulz> jacob: well that rules out compiz then.
[23:12] <pike_> nomojob: heh try pkill firefox;mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[23:13] <jacob> corruptionoflulz: compiz?
[23:13] <nomojob> pike_: tehn re-open?
[23:13] <n215> how do i set the default gateway for pppoe connection?
[23:13] <nomojob> then
[23:13] <pike_> nomojob: yeah
[23:13] <thor> timboy: sorry ...it's been along time since I worked with that...fusesmb makes it SO easy <smile>. I think you can use 'mount -t smbfs ...' I am looking up the complete line for you
[23:13] <samo> hi again, i tried to follow a tutorial to install fglrx fr my ati x700 card, when i reboot i had a blank screen and i am stuck with recoverymode now
[23:13] <nomojob> pike_: blank.  and it just says "Done" at the bottom
[23:14] <corruptionoflulz> !compiz | jacob
[23:14] <ubotu> jacob: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:14] <DanThirst> yeah the same thing that i said happened, happened again
[23:14] <DanThirst> Gnome starts up and all i get is a black screen
[23:14] <shadow1> ciao a tutti;)
[23:14] <timboy> thor, thanks
[23:14] <kane77> how do I rename network interfaces?
[23:14] <pike_> nomojob: now try
[23:14] <DanThirst> but... least i figured out how to get to a console
[23:14] <pike_> nomojob: if this doesnt work you are just cursed
[23:14] <Fekall> tried to find some info on what setting to select when I am trying to move my windows
[23:15] <pike_> cursed!
[23:15] <nomojob> pike_: oh great
[23:15] <Fekall> anyone gimme a hint on that
[23:15] <Fekall> with my mouse
[23:15] <Fekall> they seem to be stuck in one spot
[23:15] <thor> timboy: sorry...the new mount says it doesn't know anything about smbfs...it is all in the package smbfs (had to do a remote login to my ubuntu box <smile>)
[23:15] <Fekall> is it a theme setting
[23:15] <DanThirst> so is Pelo around?
[23:16] <jorgenpt> Any way to get NetworkManager running with ion2/3?
[23:16] <jorgenpt> I switched from Gnome to Ion, and I've configured all sorts of networks under networkmanager
[23:17] <Sharpie> how can i see how long my internet connection's been up? (pppoe connection)
[23:17] <nomojob> pike_: no more ideas then?
[23:17] <DM|_> jorgenpt ion? is that gtk
[23:17] <pike_> nomojob: be sure to rm ~/.mozilla;mv ~/.mozilla.bak ~/.mozilla
[23:18] <pike_> nomojob: no sorry
[23:18] <ndube> quit
[23:19] <zigarth> hey gentlemen, could anyone tell me how to set up window scaling?
[23:19] <zigarth> :)
[23:20] <nomojob> pike_: thanks anyways!
[23:21] <nomojob> pike_: btw, when I :  rm ~/.mozilla;mv ~/.mozilla.bak ~/.mozilla  it says: rm: cannot remove `/home/diamondsteve/.mozilla': Is a directory
[23:21] <nomojob> mv: cannot stat `/home/diamondsteve/.mozilla.bak': No such file or directory
[23:22] <timboy> thor, you still with me? TIA
[23:22] <DanThirst> Hmm any one know much about graphic card setups and config files
[23:22] <thor> timboy: what's up?
[23:22] <DanThirst> because when my gnome starts up i just get a black screen
[23:23] <DanThirst> i don't know how to reset default settings for xorg config file
[23:23] <digitaldevoter> hi I am new to Ubuntu
[23:23] <nomojob> Can anyone help me with getting Flash to work in Firefox?
[23:23] <digitaldevoter> I need to install Creative Soundblaster AWE 64 Gold
[23:23] <soldats> nomojob, whats the problem
[23:23] <thor> timboy: did you get smbfs installed and try smbmount?
[23:24] <nomojob> soldats: this site wont play:  http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1117263390
[23:24] <nomojob> soldats: just gives me a big white screen
[23:24] <soldats> nomojob, did you install flash already
[23:25] <pike_> nomojob: sorry rm -fr
[23:25] <kulaS> join #chojnice
[23:25] <nomojob> soldats: yes
[23:26] <soldats> DanThirst, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg run this in a terminal it may help to try to set it to defaults
[23:26] <soldats> DanThirst,  "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[23:26] <rawb> anyone know why apache2 processes continue to stay alive even after running /etc/init.d/apache2 stop and saying it shut down correctly?
[23:27] <soldats> nomojob, open a new tab in your browser and do "about:plugins" and see if it is setup properly
[23:27] <nomojob> !pastebin
[23:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:28] <nomojob> soldats: here is the whole page:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46376/
[23:28] <timboy> thor, works
[23:28] <timboy> thor, so why does that work and the other way not?
[23:29] <thor> timboy: now you know why I use xfce and not gnome
[23:29] <thor> timboy: I could tell you why fusesmb doesn't work in xfce...but all that is hidden in gnome <smile>
[23:29] <timboy> lol thx thor
[23:30] <nomojob> soldats: did you get that?
[23:30] <soldats> nomojob, yes it looks as though it doesnt say flv is enabled
[23:30] <nomojob> soldats: how do I fix that?
[23:30] <thor> timboy: lots of neat stuff can be done in a limited wm that can't be done in gnome...my network is automatically mounted to ~/network, iso files can be one-clicked to ~/iso
[23:30] <soldats> nomojob, do other flash sites work ie. youtube
[23:31] <mikebeecham> hi there, is there a channel for help with installing X11 cursor themes?
[23:31] <DanThirst> soldats: thats exactly what i was looking for, i think
[23:31] <timboy> thor, that's sweet!
[23:32] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: what seems to be the problem installing them?
[23:32] <thor> timboy: 'course...my first linux install was Slackware 1.0 on a dos 386...<smile>
[23:33] <mikebeecham> hey jayde_drag0n....I install gcursor after reading the ubuntu forums...the instruction on there seems to be to drag the bz2 file onto gcursor....but nothing happens
[23:33] <mikebeecham> jayde_drag0n: also, when I click the "go to theme folder" nothing happens
[23:33] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: what you have to do is un-tar them into the .icons folder
[23:33] <soldats> nomojob, hmm i just realized it does say flash is enabled do you have some kind of ad blocker or flash blocker installed
[23:34] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: then they will be available to you in mouse properties
[23:34] <timboy> thor, yeah if i were even aware of computers back then i might be in the same boat ;) i was probably 6 then
[23:34] <thor> timboy: thanks...I needed that <smile>
[23:35] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: you will find that foler under home/yourname/ then view hidden files.. and you will see them... .icons for mouse pointers and .themes for gtk themes usually
[23:35] <mikebeecham> going there now mate
[23:35] <timboy> thor, lol sry do you know how to make that command a shortcut for my aunt?
[23:35] <thor> timboy: consider installing xfce just to play with...you will learn a lot. As for the command...
[23:35] <mikebeecham> do I need to select, then reboot X jayde_drag0n
[23:35] <timboy> thor, or mount when she is connected to a specific wireless?
[23:35] <timboy> thor, i will
[23:35] <dolphin_noel> someone knows some good tuturial to enable the public_html in ubuntu 7.10 ?!
[23:36] <thor> timboy: as I recall, you can install a program launcher in the panel with that command...you might want to run it in a terminal but it shouldn't be necessary
[23:36] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham:  no just extract them to the folder (make sure they are in a folder of their own name... and goto pouse rpoperties .. or somewhere under appearance
[23:36] <timboy> thor, thx!
[23:36] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: and the new mouse theme will be there
[23:37] <mikebeecham> jayde_drag0n: I did that and could seem them within the 'pointer' section of custom....however, when I select the mouse theme...nothing changes
[23:37] <simplechat> hey
[23:37] <thor> timboy: wish I could be more specific...but I run xfce on both computers so would have to log out and back in to check the gnome specifics
[23:37] <simplechat> has anyone here got gmailfs working on ubuntu?
[23:37] <nomojob> soldats: i tried youtube and it wouldnt play, and then it locked up my computer and i restarted
[23:38] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: what pointer did you choose.. give me the url and i will install it on my end and see if i have the same result.. if not then compare results to figure out the problem
[23:38] <southafrikanse> Hello my dear friends. I get: "Error 21: There doesn't exist any device" when I edit the grub menu to add Windows
[23:38] <mikebeecham> ahhhh...it's changed :D
[23:38] <timboy> thor, don't bother i think i've got it. thanks a bunch for the knowledge
[23:39] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: glad to help
[23:39] <thor> timboy: yw
[23:39] <zstars> How do you add something to PATH?
[23:39] <soldats> nomojob, i believ you may be missing application.futuresplash future splash player
[23:39] <mikebeecham> but it only seems to change on open windows jayde_drag0n...not on the desktop also?
[23:39] <_DT> southafrikanse: make sure you're adding the correct device / partition etc...
[23:39] <nomojob> soldats: how do I get that?  Synaptic?
[23:39] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: well thats odd i'v nnot run into that problem
[23:40] <logan> I am having problems with my boot settings, can anyone help me?
[23:40] <soldats> you need to upgrade your flash player to 9 instead of 8
[23:40] <southafrikanse> _DT: that's the problem. I don't know which partition Windows is in. I know it is tells me "sda6"
[23:40]  * emgent heya
[23:40] <thor> logan: what is the erro?
[23:40] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: let me see if i can find anything on that
[23:40] <soldats> nomojob, ininstall flash and reinstall new version
[23:40] <thor> oops...an error in error
[23:40] <timboy> logan, no one can help you without knowing the problem...
[23:40] <mikebeecham> thanks jayde_drag0n
[23:40] <_DT> southafrinkanse: e.g root (sda6,1) = sda6, first partition
[23:41] <_DT> e.g root (sda6,2) = sda6, second partition etc..
[23:41] <southafrikanse> _DT: then how come Linux partition is hd0,4?
[23:41] <logan> I have my IDE hard drive set to default boot, which has grub installed on it, which gives me the option of booting into linux(ide) or windows(sata). I can boot into windows fine with grub, but if I set my sata drive to my default drive, it doesn't work
[23:41] <southafrikanse> Why not sda4?
[23:42] <timboy> logan, how are you setting the sata drive to default?
[23:42] <logan> in my biod
[23:42] <logan> bios
[23:42] <thor> logan: are you sure you are using the correct default...remember they start at 0 not 1. ( I just made that mistake this afternoon)
[23:42] <_DT> southafrikanse: maybe it's (hd0,1) ; (hd0,2) or (hd0,3) ?
[23:42] <logan> I press f12 while my computer boots and select the hard drive from a list, and it doesn't work
[23:43] <eth01> hrm. my wireless isn't working.
[23:43] <thor> logan: if you are getting the grub menu then you don't set the default drive in the bios...you change it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:43] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: to clarify any potential simple problems... in your .icons folder you now have a folder with the name of the cursor theme you installed... not just the files in there right... like mine i have 2 folders default and silver and under silver is a folder named cursors and there is all the files.. correct?
[23:43] <_DT> southafrikanse: you can probably see the partition name from a tool like qparted
[23:43] <logan> I don't want the grub menu any more, I don't want to boot to my IDE drive, I want to boot to my SATA drive
[23:43] <nomojob> soldats: is it Gnash SWF Viewer that I should uninstall?
[23:43] <southafrikanse> _DT:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[23:43] <southafrikanse> /dev/sda1   *           1         130     1044193+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[23:43] <southafrikanse> /dev/sda2             131        9728    77095935    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[23:43] <southafrikanse> /dev/sda5             131        3890    30202168+  83  Linux
[23:43] <southafrikanse> /dev/sda6            3891        9728    46893703+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[23:43] <southafrikanse> SOrry guys
[23:43] <logan> I'm not getting rid of linux I just cant use my IDE drive anymore
[23:44] <logan> new mobo, only one IDE slot
[23:44] <thor> logan: have you tried reinstalling the mbr on the sata drive?
[23:44] <logan> mbr?
[23:44] <soldats> nomojob, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48
[23:44] <logan> master boot record? no and I don't know how
[23:45] <thor> logan: set the sata drive as default in the bios, then boot from the winxp cd and choose 'repair'. At the dos prompt type 'fixmbr'
[23:45] <Lounge> got a question about sensors-applet with nvidia
[23:45] <mikebeecham> jayde_drag0n: ...I have my folder, JaguarX....within there are two other folders, Cursors and Source...there is also an index.theme file
[23:45] <logan> I tried that and when I went to repair it couldnt find a drive
[23:45] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: okay i'll be back in a minute
[23:45] <mikebeecham> kk
[23:46] <Lounge> i compiled sensors-applet with nvidia into a package and installed it
[23:46] <eBryon> I have a question about adding an IDE controller to an Ubuntu 7.10 server. I added a Promise IDE controller, moved the CD-ROM onto it, and now can't tell if it detected it, as it's not seeing the CDROM
[23:46] <thor> logan: have you ever been able to boot to the sata? Maybe your bios won't support it
[23:46] <logan> I just installed this mobo, so no. But it is a brand new mobo and it's pretty good
[23:47] <Lounge> but synaptic and the auto updateer wnats to install the package from the repos without the nvidia, how do i work around this?
[23:47] <thor> logan: how did you install xp on the sata? on that computer?
[23:48] <logan> it was installed previously, I had xp on the sata at first, then later on I added the IDE drive and installed linux and grub on it
[23:48] <mkquist> hey all, is it possible to unmount your filesystem while the comp is running ubuntu? and if you do what does it do?
[23:48] <sobersabre> hi. I have tried to upgrade a system.
[23:48] <sobersabre> And I got it broken abit.
[23:49] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: within th jaguarx folder you have source... in the source folder is there another folder labled cursors again as well?
[23:49] <thor> ok...so you could boot to it earlier. And the jumpers and cables are the same as originally? You know there is a pair flipped in the ribbon cable if I remember correctly
[23:49] <DanThirst> wow this is getting really frustrating, i think the refresh rate my video card is spitting out is to fast for my LCD monitor
[23:49] <sobersabre> need advice.
[23:49] <rondonson> is this the ubuntu help channel
[23:49] <logan> ribbon cable? this is SATA
[23:49] <PirateHead> Is there a way to upgrade to the latest version of Wine without breaking anything?
[23:50] <riddareralf> Hey all, I need a good ftp client, recently I've used gFTP but I don't really like it so much and it's not that stable
[23:50] <riddareralf> What do you use?
[23:50] <DanThirst> filezilla
[23:50] <DanThirst> riddareralf: filezilla
[23:50] <PirateHead> riddareralf: ftp
[23:50] <rondonson> ok, ive just install the newest 7.10 version of Ubuntu, partitioned my space to have dual boot alongside windows, installation went well, but when i try to load Ubuntu from grub i get nothing but a black screen
[23:50] <tdoggette> riddareralf, FireFTP -- it's a Firefox extension
[23:50] <riddareralf> DanThirst, I'll look into it
[23:50] <riddareralf> tdoggette, I like FIrefox extensions...
[23:50] <tyronepolleri> hi i started to use Kiba today and it was working ok but when i activate the physics option I only see white squares instead of icons can someone help me?
[23:51] <PirateHead> riddareralf: How about using FTP at the command line?
[23:51] <PirateHead> riddareralf: It's quick and easy.
[23:51] <tdoggette> riddareralf, and FTP clients. It's a perfect match.
[23:51] <JJtech> rondonson: which did you install first? ubuntu?
[23:51] <logan> I can boot to my SATA drive fine from grub(running on an IDE drive) but I can't boot to my SATA drive if I set it to the first boot in my bios
[23:51] <rondonson> jj, no windows was already installed, i installed ubuntu alongside it
[23:51] <riddareralf> PirateHead, Well I'm not sure
[23:51] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham: you can also try deleting it... then making sure that appeapance is closed re-extract the tar file to .icons and then try again... i installed the same mousepointer and did not get the same results as you and i know you did as i directed
[23:51] <riddareralf> PirateHead, I rather use a GUI one to start with, it's easier when I work
[23:52] <mikebeecham> jayde_drag0n: thanks...will try
[23:52] <PirateHead> riddareralf: Or, you can use the built-in "Connect to Server..." that lets you access FTP shares as part of the Gnome virtual file system.
[23:52] <thor> logan: sorry I can't be more help...I always use laptops...have for years...so almost all my knowledge is pre-sata
[23:52] <PirateHead> riddareralf: Places -> Connect to Server...
[23:52] <virtuososteve> hey when i start the computer the splash screen doesn't come up whats the command to fix it?
[23:52] <logan> can any one recommend me to a place where my hard drive troubles might recieve better support?
[23:52] <riddareralf> Oooh nice
[23:52] <PirateHead> riddareralf: choose Public FTP, put in your login, and it should come right up.
[23:52] <JJtech> rondonson: well, try moving your mouse, or pressing a key.. cos sometime ubuntu will fall asleep during and after grub... i don't know why
[23:52] <moh> PirateHead: in a related question.  ANy idea how to use Connect to Server.. or some other built-in tool to access NFS mounts?
[23:53] <PirateHead> riddareralf: My point is that, while I'm sure you can find some neat FTP programs out there, Ubuntu has a lot of FTP functionality built in.
[23:53] <DanThirst> yeah i can't get a boot menu any more this is just wonderful im going to have to format again >_>
[23:53] <PirateHead> moh: I use Connect to Server to mount NFS shares myself.
[23:53] <rondonson> JJtech, i tried that as well, i dont even see all the stuff loading like i usually do, it just says Starting up, loading, then go's black
[23:53] <jayde_drag0n> mikebeecham:  the folder should look like this   jaguarx>cursors, source, index.theme... within cursors are the xii files.. within source are jpgs and another cursor folder with the same contents as the first cursor folder
[23:53] <riddareralf> PirateHead, I understand, I'll try that out, right away
[23:54] <PirateHead> moh: Wait, no I don't. I use Browse Network.
[23:54] <Pupeno> Anyone using Mono's installer on latest Ubuntu?
[23:54] <JJtech> rondonson: hmmm..
[23:54] <PirateHead> moh: NFS shares should be displayed by default on your Network tab.
[23:54] <soldats> DanThirst, try botting in command line and running the command i told you about and try to set it to the defaults
[23:54] <soldats> booting
[23:55] <DanThirst> soldats: i'v done it about 4 times now
[23:55] <rondonson> JJtech, yes  i know it is very weird, im not new to ubuntu ive ran other versions as wll and ive never seen this problem
[23:55] <JJtech> rondonson: hmmm.. in that case, try to look at where you install ubuntu again.. make sure it is not using the C:/ drive that windows is using
[23:55] <DanThirst> no matter i can't get gnome running screen goes black, no signal like i knew would happen
[23:55] <shiheping> What can I do do!!?
[23:55] <soldats> DanThirst, what happened when after you configured it
[23:55] <rondonson> jjtech, i will check that out
[23:55] <DanThirst> nothing changed
[23:55] <DanThirst> same thing
[23:56] <moh> PirateHead: Strage, because all I see in the Network window is "Windows Network"
[23:56] <soldats> DanThirst, did it always do that or just a recent problem
[23:56] <moh> PirateHead: did you setup stuff in /etc/fstab?  I have various NFS mounts defined as "user" in there and I still only see Windows Network
[23:56] <PirateHead> moh: If I set up an NFS mount, it just shows up separate from the Windows network.
[23:57] <DanThirst> its a recent problem when i start using restricted drivers for my radeon 9800, whenever i install the proper drivers for it i can't start up gnome any more
[23:57] <Rumpsteak> ; /me waves!
[23:57] <PirateHead> moh: I see a bunch of them presently.
[23:57] <DanThirst> and i think it has something to do with the refresh rat
[23:57] <DanThirst> rate*
[23:57] <moh> PirateHead: let me try that out again...
[23:57] <PirateHead> moh: I never edited my /etc/fstab, but you would want to do so if you wanted to auto-mount an NFS share upon booting up.
[23:57] <soldats> DanThirst, do you have the latest firware for it
[23:57] <logan> I can boot to my SATA drive fine from grub(running on an IDE drive) but I can't boot to my SATA drive if I set it to the first boot in my bios. Can anyone help me?
[23:57] <Triskaidekaphobi> i have a forcedeth gigabit nic that seems to be running at 100mb, is this all that's available with the current module or is there a setting that i have missed.
[23:57] <riddareralf> PirateHead, They ask me for a keyring?
[23:57] <DanThirst> firmware for ?
[23:58] <PirateHead> riddareralf: If it says to give a default password for a keyring, then just put in something memorable.
[23:58] <riddareralf> nevermind ^^
[23:58] <moh> PirateHead: so you're saying that it went and discovered other NFS servers on the network magically?
[23:58] <soldats> DanThirst, the video card
[23:58] <PirateHead> moh: Any of them that are set to be public and discoverable, yes.
[23:58] <zstars> What do you do when you break the PATH variable?
[23:58] <zstars> I mean, when you erase it
[23:58] <zstars> PATH = ""
[23:58] <moh> PirateHead: ah.  Perhaps that's what I don't know how to do.
[23:58] <PirateHead> moh: If you create an NFS share in Ubuntu, it is set to be public by default.
[23:59] <carnelain> can somebody help me to get my keys fully functional
[23:59] <DanThirst> Ok i'm sorry i'v never heard any one refer to firmware with any reference in video cards? could you explain more?
[23:59] <soldats> DanThirst, i dont know a whole lot about fancy video cards but i heard from someone you may need additional firmware for it
[23:59] <rondonson> JJtech, would me using a guided install have caused this problem? usually i manually edit the partition table but i noticed this new feature and thought i'd try it out
[23:59] <DanThirst> na just drivers
[23:59] <PirateHead> moh: I think I know a possible problem - have you installed UNIX filesharing?