| kirika | nantax, icewm is ok but i would suggest enlightenment | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| nantax | well i would if i could | 00:00 |
| kirika | its very fast | 00:00 |
| nantax | but i cant use the synaptic | 00:00 |
| nantax | im geetting that malformed release file | 00:00 |
| kirika | apt-get install enlightenment | 00:00 |
| nantax | same happens when i use the main server instead of the ph one | 00:00 |
| kirika | or apt-gt install icewm | 00:00 |
| nantax | let me try | 00:01 |
| kirika | get* | 00:01 |
| nantax | Reading package lists... Done | 00:02 |
| nantax | Building dependency tree | 00:02 |
| nantax | Reading state information... Done | 00:02 |
| nantax | E: Couldn't find package icewm | 00:02 |
| nantax | nantax@xubuntu:~$ | 00:02 |
| crimsun | 1.2.32-2ubuntu1 0 | 00:03 |
| crimsun | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages | 00:03 |
| crimsun | you seem to have the universe component disabled. | 00:03 |
| kirika | that may be | 00:04 |
| zoredache | !pastebin | 00:04 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 00:04 |
| somerville32 | kirika, That was too small to waste putting in a pastebin :P | 00:05 |
| nantax | okay let me check on that universe thingie | 00:06 |
| kirika | huh | 00:06 |
| kirika | what did i do | 00:06 |
| nantax | damn | 00:07 |
| nantax | when every i try to update the package list, i get those same error | 00:07 |
| evil_tech | if i dont return soon the alpha build killed my comp | 00:07 |
| zoredache | nantax: try using a different set of repositories | 00:07 |
| nantax | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release: Unable to find expected entry web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) | 00:08 |
| nantax | im using the main server now | 00:08 |
| nantax | instead of the philippine one | 00:08 |
| nantax | *must resist temptation to boot windows* | 00:09 |
| HeadLong87632 | don't do it! | 00:09 |
| HeadLong87632 | stay the course man! | 00:09 |
| nantax | well i cant install anything | 00:09 |
| nantax | lol | 00:09 |
| nantax | is there a way to fix synaptic | 00:09 |
| somerville32 | hmm | 00:14 |
| HeadLong87632 | ask the magic eightball? | 00:14 |
| somerville32 | !easysource | nantax | 00:15 |
| ubotu | nantax: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic | 00:15 |
| somerville32 | Or take a visit to applications > system > software sources | 00:15 |
| evil_tech | i have returned!! | 00:55 |
| evil_tech | via 8.04 mwhahahaha | 00:56 |
| * totalwormage hides | 00:56 | |
| evil_tech | sommerville32: so what do i need to do now? | 00:57 |
| evil_tech | sommerville32: and why do i have this ugly AMD logo that says Testing Use only Unsupported Hardware | 00:57 |
| somerville32 | lmao | 01:02 |
| somerville32 | Ok, you need to do the testing | 01:02 |
| evil_tech | is it in the menu somewhere? | 01:03 |
| somerville32 | One sec | 01:03 |
| evil_tech | ok | 01:03 |
| === somerville32 changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Xubuntu 7.10 Released: http://xubuntu.org/get | Please help testing the Alpha 1 images: https://iso.qa.stgraber.org | ||
| somerville32 | See https://iso.qa.stgraber.org evil_tech | 01:05 |
| evil_tech | ok | 01:05 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| evil_tech | hmm my md5sum doesnt match | 01:12 |
| somerville32 | md5sum for what? | 01:14 |
| evil_tech | the cd image | 01:15 |
| somerville32 | Come to #xubuntu-devel | 01:15 |
| evil_tech | ok | 01:15 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| annihilus | Hello, i am having a problem installing tzdata, its telling me subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 | 01:18 |
| annihilus | does anyone have any ideas or experience with this, google has proved unfruitful | 01:19 |
| === tuna-fish is now known as tuna | ||
| evil_tech | well i didnt hose my normal xubuntu partition | 01:54 |
| somerville32 | :) | 02:00 |
| nantax | thanks obuto | 02:38 |
| nantax | your tip on rebuilding the source.lst worked perfectly | 02:38 |
| nantax | it may be kinda late but thanks nonetheless, im here at work and had to go fix some windows pc that is missing the start menu. lol | 02:38 |
| somerville32 | :) | 02:40 |
| nantax | okay im going to try some new window manager | 02:45 |
| nantax | which is better icewm or enlightenment? | 02:45 |
| ere4si | I think icewm | 02:46 |
| nantax | i tried fluxbox but it was kinda weird | 02:46 |
| ere4si | lots of screenshots for icewm on puppylinux website | 02:47 |
| nantax | okay im downloading it now | 02:47 |
| nantax | it just dawned on me | 02:47 |
| nantax | that microsoft is really after the money because of all the blind side that they have with windows, even the facial | 02:48 |
| nantax | why would you have to pay for softwares like tuneup ulitilies or windowblinds just to jazz up your desktop | 02:48 |
| ere4si | need to with macs as well | 02:49 |
| nantax | it should be in the users hand and we should not pay for those stuff | 02:49 |
| nantax | im not familiar with macs | 02:49 |
| ere4si | that's why open source happened :) | 02:49 |
| nantax | lol | 02:51 |
| nantax | i never appreciated buntus before because i just had the installer but no net connection | 02:52 |
| nantax | now its so much easier, specially with the support of the community | 02:52 |
| ere4si | 20000+ apps online for free :) | 02:52 |
| somerville32 | :) | 02:53 |
| nantax | okay going to try out the ice ice thingie | 02:53 |
| nantax | brb | 02:53 |
| nantax | okay using icewm now | 02:56 |
| ere4si | it's ok? | 02:56 |
| nantax | win95 for the win lol | 02:57 |
| soldats | nantax, fluxbox is cool and so is icewm but in my opinion enlightenment is superior only because i think it looks nicer and is easier to use | 02:57 |
| nantax | yup | 02:57 |
| nantax | i think im going to try enlightenment | 02:57 |
| ere4si | lots of themes you can use | 02:57 |
| soldats | yea | 02:57 |
| ere4si | in icewm | 02:57 |
| soldats | there are really cool themes as well you can download | 02:57 |
| soldats | in enlightenment | 02:58 |
| nantax | fluxbox feels so think | 02:58 |
| nantax | thin* | 02:58 |
| nantax | icewm is too boxy | 02:58 |
| soldats | yea its very minimalistic | 02:58 |
| nantax | xfce i like but i want to try some new stuff | 02:58 |
| ere4si | the default isn't always the best - try some themes first | 02:58 |
| nantax | i am trying them now | 02:59 |
| soldats | i usually switch between xfce and e17 a few times a week | 02:59 |
| nantax | i like icewm but i dont like the font, its too big | 02:59 |
| nantax | i want thin fonts, where to i set them? | 02:59 |
| soldats | there should be a font config setting | 02:59 |
| ere4si | global fonts? | 03:00 |
| soldats | i only used ice fror like literally 1 minute | 03:00 |
| nantax | the fonts on the menu | 03:00 |
| nantax | it looks like big fixedsys.fon | 03:00 |
| nantax | in windows | 03:00 |
| soldats | you usually have to configure the settings yourself | 03:00 |
| nantax | so where can i select the fonts? | 03:00 |
| soldats | id suggest the icewm homepage for specific help on the subject | 03:01 |
| nantax | okay | 03:01 |
| nantax | im just going to fool around here | 03:01 |
| soldats | not to be a jerk or anything | 03:01 |
| nantax | no im not a jerk | 03:01 |
| nantax | lol | 03:01 |
| nantax | i dont even post much, i have made some progress in xubuntu and i only made 3 posts in ubuntuforums | 03:02 |
| ere4si | well done :) | 03:02 |
| ere4si | try the icewm homepage - screenshots - themes - configs etc | 03:03 |
| soldats | oops | 03:03 |
| nantax | what is the command for synaptic i cant find synaptic in icewm | 03:03 |
| nantax | so i dont have to go back to xfce | 03:03 |
| nantax | and where are programs stored? | 03:04 |
| soldats | try gksudo synaptic | 03:04 |
| nantax | like firefox and pidgin | 03:04 |
| nantax | so if i want to make a launcher, i can point to the file | 03:04 |
| soldats | there all in the same path directories but the desktop layout is different | 03:04 |
| nantax | yep, but where do you find them? | 03:04 |
| nantax | like in windows, most of the programs are in c:/program files | 03:04 |
| nantax | where to downloaded programs go in *buntus? | 03:05 |
| soldats | its the same as xfce just use the file manager | 03:05 |
| nantax | uhuh, so where do i go from there? | 03:05 |
| nantax | i mean what is the path? | 03:05 |
| soldats | /usr/share | 03:05 |
| nantax | ah gotcha | 03:05 |
| soldats | or .<application> | 03:06 |
| soldats | in icewm you can still open a file manager | 03:06 |
| nantax | and what is that command in xterm that allows you to launch programs and return to the commandline | 03:06 |
| nantax | like if you type firefox or pidgin and you can type another command | 03:06 |
| nantax | lol | 03:07 |
| nantax | i tried ctrl+c in the xterm i ran pidgin from | 03:07 |
| nantax | and the window closed | 03:07 |
| nantax | cant find pidgin in the menu yet so im using the terminal | 03:07 |
| nantax | i think you need to type somethng before a command to run the program and return to the command prompt | 03:08 |
| nantax | but i dont know what it is | 03:08 |
| ere4si | i think it is %u | 03:08 |
| nantax | so its %u pidgin? | 03:08 |
| ere4si | i think | 03:09 |
| nantax | and i go back to the command prompt? | 03:09 |
| nantax | brb | 03:09 |
| nantax | nantax@xubuntu:~$ %pidgin | 03:10 |
| nantax | nantax@xubuntu:~$ %pidgin | 03:10 |
| nantax | nantax@xubuntu:~$ %pidgin | 03:10 |
| nantax | -bash: fg: %pidgin: no such job | 03:10 |
| nantax | lol | 03:10 |
| somerville32 | ctrl+c kills it | 03:11 |
| nantax | yep | 03:11 |
| nantax | i think there something that you can do so it will return to the prompt | 03:11 |
| nantax | ive seen my geeky instructor do it before | 03:11 |
| soldats | just do pidgin & | 03:11 |
| nantax | okay brb again | 03:11 |
| soldats | "pidgin &" | 03:11 |
| nantax | cool, it works | 03:12 |
| nantax | i need to read more on this command line stuff | 03:12 |
| nantax | theres that bg and fg thing and kill something to kill some task | 03:13 |
| ere4si | nantax: know about workspaces? | 03:13 |
| nantax | i forgot all about them | 03:13 |
| nantax | [1][2][3][4] | 03:13 |
| nantax | but i only use 2 | 03:13 |
| ere4si | hehe :) | 03:13 |
| nantax | im still not weaned from windows | 03:14 |
| soldats | to kill preocesses you use the "kill" command | 03:14 |
| nantax | but you need some number id for the process that is running right? | 03:14 |
| ere4si | !kill | 03:14 |
| ubotu | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 03:14 |
| soldats | ok well do "pgrep 'app name' " | 03:15 |
| ere4si | !pid | 03:15 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 03:15 |
| nantax | and he showed us some commands that has grep to limit the list | 03:15 |
| soldats | then that gives you the process number | 03:15 |
| nantax | i never actually paid attention to him | 03:15 |
| nantax | but i am realizing that its very useful now | 03:15 |
| nantax | specially if your installing window managers and it does not have the menus setup yet | 03:16 |
| soldats | in terminal run "top" to do a text system monitor | 03:16 |
| soldats | to get number ids | 03:16 |
| soldats | as well | 03:16 |
| nantax | ah yeah | 03:16 |
| nantax | top is like task manager in windows right? | 03:16 |
| soldats | yea but linux has a graphic system monitor as well but in terminal it is faster | 03:17 |
| nantax | and sorts by cpu usage | 03:17 |
| nantax | and i think i can press ctrl+z to leave that process | 03:17 |
| nantax | if i can recall it correctly lol | 03:17 |
| nantax | [4]+ Stopped top | 03:18 |
| nantax | [4] means 4 running process? | 03:18 |
| nantax | lol | 03:18 |
| nantax | anyway i will learn them in time | 03:18 |
| soldats | be more specific | 03:18 |
| nantax | i pressed top, then ctrl + z | 03:18 |
| nantax | then top again then ctrl+z | 03:18 |
| nantax | [3]+ | 03:19 |
| nantax | [4]+ | 03:19 |
| nantax | i will try elightenement now | 03:19 |
| ere4si | here's an icewm howto - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/icewm | 03:19 |
| somerville32 | fg <process number> | 03:19 |
| nantax | going back to xfce because i cant find synaptic | 03:19 |
| nantax | brb | 03:19 |
| soldats | in terminal do synaptic | 03:20 |
| nantax | ah sweet xfce :) | 03:20 |
| nantax | with bliss.bmp from win xp | 03:21 |
| soldats | if you need synaptic type it in a terminal | 03:21 |
| nantax | background | 03:21 |
| nantax | just sudo synaptic right? | 03:21 |
| soldats | yea | 03:21 |
| nantax | okay will do | 03:21 |
| soldats | also do a google search for "learn linux" and read tutorials | 03:22 |
| soldats | it will help greatly | 03:22 |
| nantax | i will... | 03:22 |
| nantax | yep, i bet it will | 03:22 |
| nantax | thats why im trying out the different window managers | 03:22 |
| nantax | so when i find one, i can start learning more | 03:22 |
| nantax | and that is definitely the first thing i want to learn | 03:22 |
| nantax | the command line | 03:22 |
| nantax | lol, actually the things that my instructor taught us now makes sense | 03:23 |
| nantax | learning linux empowers you, learning windows doesnt because it limits you with your choice | 03:23 |
| somerville32 | :) | 03:24 |
| * somerville32 hugs nantax | 03:24 | |
| soldats | very true | 03:24 |
| nantax | he is a linux preacher... trying to convert the class to try ubuntu, he even gave us cds | 03:24 |
| nantax | but i think only 2 or 3 of us actually tried it | 03:24 |
| soldats | ubuntu is a very good "starter" linux OS | 03:24 |
| nantax | god bless his soul where ever he is now | 03:24 |
| nantax | indeed | 03:25 |
| soldats | it is also good for pros as well | 03:25 |
| nantax | i realized that before when i tried to install it at home | 03:25 |
| nantax | problem is i had no net connection | 03:25 |
| soldats | its just that you need to be a lot more experienced to use different distros like gentoo | 03:25 |
| nantax | so i was not able to experience the free software fully | 03:25 |
| nantax | now what its connected to the net, it totally blows windows | 03:26 |
| nantax | our company spent a fortune buying 86 licensed copy of xp | 03:26 |
| soldats | ha | 03:26 |
| soldats | its a shame | 03:26 |
| nantax | now they are requesting for quotation for office xp 2003/2007 | 03:26 |
| soldats | if only people were aware of how well it is becoming developed | 03:26 |
| nantax | yeah | 03:27 |
| soldats | at least they arent wanting vista | 03:27 |
| nantax | all that money could be used to upgrade the hardware | 03:27 |
| soldats | true | 03:27 |
| nantax | well the pc here is below minimun | 03:27 |
| nantax | below minimum standard so they really cant afford to upgrade | 03:27 |
| nantax | this is a sugar milling industry | 03:28 |
| nantax | so they have old programs (foxpro) | 03:28 |
| soldats | talk about shit i have a 1 gig processor and 256 mb of ram | 03:28 |
| nantax | just like mine | 03:28 |
| soldats | but in linux its still fast | 03:28 |
| nantax | i salvaged this pc from the junk heap | 03:28 |
| soldats | nice thats the best way obtain stuff | 03:28 |
| nantax | its still has the pencil mark defective mmother board, checked 6/25/2007 | 03:29 |
| soldats | lol | 03:29 |
| nantax | managed to make it run, | 03:29 |
| soldats | well good job on that | 03:29 |
| nantax | amazing what pencil eraser can do to clean memory and video card contact | 03:29 |
| soldats | crazy | 03:30 |
| nantax | i am a casual worker in the mis/edp dpt | 03:30 |
| nantax | i format windows pc everyday | 03:30 |
| soldats | sorry i have no clue what that is | 03:30 |
| soldats | oh ok | 03:30 |
| nantax | because of all the junks they managed to put in the pc | 03:30 |
| soldats | haha | 03:30 |
| nantax | usually from the factory and engineering department | 03:30 |
| nantax | they like porn | 03:30 |
| soldats | figures | 03:30 |
| nantax | trojan likes porn too | 03:30 |
| nantax | using linux takes time to get accustomed | 03:31 |
| nantax | im still trying to get the hang of not having to defrag your disk | 03:32 |
| nantax | scan for spywares/virus | 03:32 |
| nantax | scan for junk registry entries | 03:32 |
| nantax | and stuff | 03:32 |
| soldats | yea its alot easier | 03:33 |
| soldats | well im glad youve entered into the linux community and are willing to learn | 03:34 |
| nantax | better than playing games | 03:35 |
| totalwormage | :P | 03:35 |
| nantax | although thats why i have win xp still at home | 03:35 |
| nantax | need for speed most wanted, maple story and guilty gear xx #reloaded | 03:36 |
| soldats | if you have a fast machine you can run a win emulator and still play games | 03:36 |
| nantax | and devil may cry 3 se, but other than that im all xubuntu | 03:36 |
| nantax | linux = peace of mind | 03:37 |
| nantax | okay for some strange reason, my screensaver now works | 03:39 |
| soldats | really??? | 03:40 |
| nantax | i went out for a while and when i came back its working now | 03:40 |
| nantax | yep after installing icewm | 03:40 |
| soldats | mine never worked but i hate screen saver | 03:40 |
| nantax | i was downloading enlightenment and went out for a while | 03:40 |
| soldats | well thats cool it works | 03:40 |
| nantax | when i came back, lo and behold, the 3d accelerated restricted driver screensaver is showing | 03:40 |
| soldats | rad | 03:41 |
| nantax | i need to steal some pci video card here | 03:41 |
| nantax | but its all agp and pciex | 03:41 |
| nantax | brb going to try enlightenment | 03:42 |
| soldats | why steal maybe just ask for it | 03:42 |
| nantax | wow!!!! 1 <3 enlightenment | 03:46 |
| soldats | cool | 03:46 |
| soldats | make sure to middle click and click on the help selection | 03:47 |
| nantax | hahaha | 03:47 |
| nantax | i dont have middle click | 03:47 |
| nantax | my mouse has only 2 buttons | 03:47 |
| soldats | there is a lot of helpful hints there | 03:47 |
| soldats | oh well try right click | 03:47 |
| nantax | ah yeah , just found out | 03:47 |
| nantax | wow this is very nice indeed | 03:47 |
| soldats | it tell you how to do backrounds and such | 03:48 |
| soldats | and a lot of info on the icon box | 03:48 |
| nantax | okay now i need to change the font for pidgin and make it smaller | 03:48 |
| nantax | so it will go well with the enlightenment theme | 03:48 |
| soldats | not to be mean but id suggest sticking with what wm you prefer and playing around with it till you become comfortable with it | 03:49 |
| soldats | most fonts can be configured within the program itself | 03:49 |
| nantax | are you using pidgin? | 03:50 |
| soldats | i use pidgin for my aim account but i use xchat for irc | 03:50 |
| nantax | okay when i minimize applications where does it go? | 03:52 |
| soldats | to an icon box | 03:52 |
| nantax | in enlightenemtn | 03:52 |
| nantax | ah there | 03:53 |
| nantax | nice flipping animation | 03:53 |
| nantax | lol | 03:53 |
| soldats | you can configure it to use the app icons as well | 03:53 |
| nantax | the switching desktop is cool too | 03:53 |
| soldats | make sure to read the help section because it explain a lot of reall cool things you can do | 03:54 |
| nantax | okay im doing that | 03:55 |
| nantax | how do i open it again in case i close it? | 03:56 |
| soldats | open what | 04:01 |
| soldats | if your talking about the help box just minimize it | 04:02 |
| soldats | ? | 04:04 |
| soldats | hello | 04:07 |
| === thomas__ is now known as The-Kernel | ||
| NullName | Hey you guys. I want to buy a Samsung 225bw 22' widescreen LCD MONITOR. I can't find anything anywhere saying if it will work with linux. ANy ideas??? | 07:14 |
| TheSheep | NullName: why wouldn't it work? | 07:15 |
| TheSheep | NullName: you don't need any drivers or anything for a *monitor* | 07:15 |
| NullName | well it comes with a driver CD..which scared me.. I'd never had a problem with monitors in linux...just graphic cards. I have an old nvidia. | 07:27 |
| NullName | I thought maybe LCD monitors were different | 07:27 |
| NullName | its new and I've only dealt with older monitors | 07:27 |
| TheSheep | NullName: the driver cd will only contain LCC color definitions, for when you want to have printer-perfect colors | 07:35 |
| TheSheep | NullName: and maybe monitor parameters for windows | 07:35 |
| pubo | Hi all | 11:00 |
| pubo | I have a problem mounting devices... I have an USB HDD, and when I plug it, xubuntu recognices it and mount it, but if I do a reboot, I have to unplug and plug in again to have an automatic mounting, or I have to do an "mount -a" | 11:03 |
| pubo | can anybody help me? | 11:03 |
| pubo | everybody is sleeping :S | 11:05 |
| totalwormage | hm | 11:06 |
| totalwormage | you could add it to your fstab | 11:06 |
| totalwormage | i don't know if that's the right way, but it will work | 11:07 |
| pubo | totalwormage, I've tried to make a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d, I've add it to fstab, but nothing :S | 11:08 |
| pubo | is very strange, becouse in debian, without X, everything works perfectly | 11:08 |
| ablomen | pubo, you added the auto flag? in fstab | 11:08 |
| totalwormage | ^^ | 11:08 |
| totalwormage | otherwise read up about fstab here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131&highlight=fstab+howto | 11:09 |
| pubo | ablomen, yes, I added it... | 11:09 |
| ablomen | hmm ok | 11:09 |
| pubo | can I paste here my udev rule and fstab line? | 11:10 |
| pubo | pastebin better? | 11:10 |
| ablomen | pastebin :) | 11:10 |
| Marcusklaas | Hey question! | 11:11 |
| ablomen | btw, still dont get why people write those super-detailed howto's and then post it on a forum, thats what wiki's are for | 11:12 |
| Marcusklaas | I'm on ubuntu atm, when I install Xfce, will that put me on Xubuntu? | 11:12 |
| ablomen | Marcusklaas, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :) | 11:12 |
| ablomen | that will put all the default xubuntu stuff on there | 11:12 |
| Marcusklaas | Okay cool | 11:12 |
| pubo | http://pastebin.com/m285c1f44 | 11:12 |
| Marcusklaas | But then i also got the gnome apps .. will that make my pc slower than a clean install of xubuntu? | 11:13 |
| ablomen | well you can shut the services down and remove the apps you dont need | 11:13 |
| Marcusklaas | yea tru but what i hate about ubuntu is that a lot of applications are part of a package so you can't just delete them .. and the package manager is crazy .. liek 1000s of them in there -_- | 11:15 |
| Marcusklaas | but i get it | 11:15 |
| Marcusklaas | thanks ablomen | 11:15 |
| ablomen | np, good luck | 11:15 |
| ablomen | oh and, you can also just apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop afterwards | 11:15 |
| pubo | ablomen, have you seen my configuration? is there any error? | 11:17 |
| ablomen | well for one, i dont think you need a uid and gid in there, or is it needed for ntfs3g? | 11:17 |
| pubo | uhm, don't know... :) | 11:18 |
| ablomen | anyway, cant say anything about the udev rule (never did anything with that) but i think its either because of the weird dev name or something fishy with ntfs-3g, if thats not it, dunno | 11:19 |
| pubo | but If I remove the rule in udev, and the line in fstab... stills don't mounting the drive until I unplug and plug it again :'( | 11:20 |
| pubo | still? (I'm spanish xD) | 11:20 |
| ablomen | hmm well sorry i cant help ya there, try filing a bug :) | 11:22 |
| pubo | oh :(, well... thank you! :) | 11:24 |
| ablomen | hehe np, good luck | 11:24 |
| pubo | ablomen, are you there? | 11:53 |
| ablomen | yep | 11:53 |
| pubo | My problem (USB mounting)... The problem is with every device y plug in the USB ports... Keyboards, Mouse, etc... | 11:54 |
| ablomen | hmm thats weird | 11:54 |
| pubo | I mean... | 11:54 |
| pubo | I've plugged an USB-Mouse... It recognices and works perfectly... but when I reboot... the same... I have to unplug and plug-it again | 11:55 |
| ablomen | thats really not good, i think you messed something up, or have a really bad bug | 11:55 |
| pubo | maybe I uninstalled something important... but hal and udev is here | 11:56 |
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| pubo | anybody here? :) | 12:28 |
| pubo | I have one more problem. This time with xfce volume applet... I don't know what happened... sound works allright, volume mixer too, but when I add a volume manager in the panel, It doesn't show... | 12:30 |
| bgergo94 | hi | 12:50 |
| bgergo94 | i have this computer : 660 Mhz Celeron processor, 128 MB RAM, 100 GB HDD | 12:51 |
| bgergo94 | Does the Xubuntu works on it? | 12:51 |
| XwarlokX82 | bgergo94, it should..xubuntu is ideal for systems like that. | 12:52 |
| ere4si | the livecd will be slow but once installed it will be ok | 12:52 |
| XwarlokX82 | yup | 12:53 |
| ere4si | there is also fluxbuntu | 12:53 |
| bgergo94 | Does Xubuntu have Hungarian version? | 12:55 |
| ere4si | !hu | 13:20 |
| ubotu | Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál | 13:20 |
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| Norgur | hi | 13:23 |
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| bgergo94 | how can i install xubuntu without burn it on cd? | 14:11 |
| bgergo94 | hm? | 14:21 |
| Dieterbe | hi, to enable sending/receiving files/images to/from my sony ericsson cellphone, do i just i just have to install bluez? i | 14:36 |
| Dieterbe | actually already installed the "bluetooth" package which pulled in bluez, but i would like an icon that shows the bluetooth status, that lets me en/disable the bluetooth device, and notifies me of incoming file transfers. how should i do this? i'm guessing gnome-bluetooth is what i want, but i don't know if it will work on xubuntu and/or do what i want | 14:36 |
| jarnos | Hi, in Xubuntu 7.10 I can set autostarted applications at Settings > Autostarted Applications. I can check, uncheck, remove and add applications, but I can not see what the actual command is. By which command do you start e.g Print Queue Applet and would it work with IceWM? | 14:46 |
| jarnos | which is another window manager. | 14:47 |
| aussieman__ | anyone help me with googleerarth? i wont find graphics card since upgrade 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) | 14:54 |
| aussieman__ | ie from fiesty to gutsy | 14:55 |
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| Ahmuck | is it me, or does xubuntu hang sometimes? | 17:11 |
| somerville32 | Ahmuck, I don't have that happen to me | 17:12 |
| Ahmuck | update manager has been hung for about 45 minutes | 17:12 |
| Ahmuck | i get other programs that do the same, i'v been shutting them down via ctl-alt-esc + left mouse button | 17:13 |
| somerville32 | Ahmuck, file bugs with tracebacks :) | 17:14 |
| Ahmuck | eh, somebody else will i suppose | 17:14 |
| Ahmuck | !bugs | 17:15 |
| ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots | 17:15 |
| Ahmuck | so are there instructions telling me how to get a traceback? i normally just do strace, problem is it's so random. /me thinks i should test my memory | 17:16 |
| stone[no] | How do you access samba shares in xubuntu? (smbmount is not present, though the samba packages are installed) | 18:39 |
| stone[no] | There are som guides online, but some report failures... | 18:40 |
| zoredache | install the smbfs package | 18:47 |
| zoredache | you don't need the main 'samba' package | 18:48 |
| stone[no] | zoredache: Thanx, I will try that. | 18:48 |
| Ahmuck | has anybody tried xubuntu ltsp? | 18:50 |
| Ahmuck | i have been unable to get a successful install | 18:51 |
| stone[no] | Hmm, anyone searching for samba, in eg synaptic, will not find smbfs. It's not mentioned in the description.... | 18:53 |
| zoredache | hrm... generally don't use synaptic and do everything from the cli... try an sudo apt-get install smbfs | 18:54 |
| zoredache | sorry I made a typeo that completely changed the meaning.... *I* generally don't use synaptic and do everything from the cli... please use whatever tools you are comfortable with. | 18:57 |
| Ahmuck | er, sudo aptitude install smbfs | 18:58 |
| ere4si | synaptic has a search button - click that and type samba | 18:58 |
| stone[no] | Hehe, I prefer both. GUI for searched and cli for all other. I found it, when searching for "smb", I reckoned all packages regarding samba would | 18:58 |
| stone[no] | I found the package when searching for "smb". I didn't remember that smb is also commonly used to describe samba packages. | 18:59 |
| stone[no] | I searched for "samba" previously. | 19:00 |
| zention | having troubles getting an old soundcard to work on a system (au8810). | 19:04 |
| zention | the modules load for the card - but alsa does not see it | 19:04 |
| zention | /dev/snd seems a little sparsely populated with only seq and timer | 19:05 |
| zention | dmesg gives : au8810: probe of 0000:00:0c.0 failed with error -16 | 19:06 |
| zention | I am thinking it could be a bios thing | 19:07 |
| stone[no] | zention: I'm no expert on these things, but can an onboard sound system conflict with your audio card? | 19:08 |
| zention | the mb is quite old on the system I doubt there is onboard sound | 19:09 |
| zention | it could be an irq thing though | 19:09 |
| zention | the system is an old one of mine I have given to a friend | 19:09 |
| zention | and that soundcard was always a pig to get working - nearly every other alsa or kernel release it would work or not work | 19:10 |
| zention | which makes me think that it is an irq problem | 19:11 |
| zention | in the past I would just change alsa version or kernel version | 19:11 |
| zention | but I don't really want to admin this machine much | 19:11 |
| stone[no] | zention: I think I read somewhere that you could configure/ pass IRQ info to a card on boot (via grub)... | 19:12 |
| zention | yeah that might be an idea | 19:12 |
| zention | ubuntu stores module config in /etc/modprobe.d/? | 19:13 |
| zention | the alsa-base file looks a bit generic unfortunately I have nerfed my custom one | 19:14 |
| zention | I suspect I can get a solution there as well | 19:14 |
| zention | I will dig around the alsa site I think it is all beginning to floodback to me on how to get that card working | 19:15 |
| zention | removing alsaconf I must admit was not a great move | 19:16 |
| stone[no] | no backup? | 19:17 |
| zention | I wiped the system for xubuntu | 19:17 |
| zention | got the user data files | 19:18 |
| stone[no] | ohh, ok. | 19:18 |
| zention | I had that twinge but the system was running gentoo from a few years back | 19:18 |
| zention | so I thought hey I want need any of the conf | 19:19 |
| zention | is there a ubunutu page dealing with alsa? | 19:25 |
| zention | what confuses me a little is that lsmod shows snd-au8810 installed but each rmmod snd-au8810 and modprobe snd-au8810 results in an error -16 | 19:29 |
| zention | and snd_au8810 still sits in lsmod | 19:30 |
| zoredache | you can't rmmod something if some process is using it | 19:32 |
| zention | yeah nothing was using it | 19:32 |
| zention | rmmod works and it will go | 19:32 |
| zention | but modprobe errors and still the module gets loaded | 19:33 |
| stone[no] | zention: Are there no modules using snd-8810? | 19:33 |
| zention | yeah there are lot associated they all go when rmmod snd-au8810 completes | 19:34 |
| zention | and they all come back when modprobe snd-au8810 is run | 19:34 |
| zention | but the modprobe snd-au8810 errors -16 to the kernel | 19:34 |
| zention | and no soundcard is found | 19:35 |
| stone[no] | I don't know if this link will help: http://www.linuxsound.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-au8810 | 19:37 |
| zention | thanks | 19:37 |
| zention | http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-au8810 | 19:37 |
| zention | I was looking at that one, I think they are the same :) | 19:38 |
| zention | I am going to check the BIOS | 19:38 |
| zention | hmm still no joy | 19:50 |
| DM| | why no joy? | 19:53 |
| zention | DMI: still no sound | 20:00 |
| zention | hmm now I am wondering if it is acpi related | 20:07 |
| zention | I added noapci to the kernel line in grub | 20:07 |
| zention | but acpi is still running | 20:07 |
| thingummywut | hi. why does xubuntu log me out when i've been AFK for ~15 minutes? | 20:22 |
| stone[no] | thingummywut: Screen saver crash? Try disable screen saver... | 20:31 |
| thingummywut | that is well possible. any info why it crashes? | 20:32 |
| stone[no] | thingummywut: Just a hunch ;-) | 20:33 |
| thingummywut | care to share? | 20:35 |
| thingummywut | is it fixable maybe? | 20:35 |
| thingummywut | also, the log-in screen is weird. it's too tall for my monitor, width is ok | 20:36 |
| stone[no] | I assume you are logged out after 15 min of inactivity. 15 min seems like a "generic" screen saver timer. | 20:38 |
| stone[no] | First, to check this theory: Disable screensaver and se if that fixes the issue. | 20:38 |
| stone[no] | Second: If it's the screesaver, find out which screensaver is giving you trouble. | 20:38 |
| thingummywut | yes. disabling works | 20:38 |
| stone[no] | try change the screensaver. | 20:39 |
| stone[no] | It could be related to your misconfigured x11 conf file (wrong screen resolution) | 20:39 |
| thingummywut | i've poked it a lot | 20:40 |
| thingummywut | and got it working somehow. before that the things were way worse | 20:40 |
| stone[no] | try to play with "Screens and graphics" on the settings menu. | 20:43 |
| thingummywut | yeah, i did. weird thing is that as i have all my settings right.. | 20:45 |
| thingummywut | the screen is still too "tall" | 20:45 |
| thingummywut | but when i switch from 75 Hz to 60 Hz from Screens and Graphics, it ends up fine | 20:45 |
| thingummywut | and every time i log in, it "re-loads" the 60 Hz setting making things work | 20:45 |
| thingummywut | and even if i set it up to 60 Hz initially, the problem remains. it is solved bu switching to 75 Hz | 20:46 |
| stone[no] | Have you "hand"-edited the x11 conf file? | 20:48 |
| thingummywut | yup | 20:48 |
| thingummywut | it had all resolutions my monitor couldn't handle by default | 20:48 |
| stone[no] | I guess a heavily modified x11 conf file can be difficult for the x11 server to understand. maybe you can start from scratch. Is there a command line x11 conf utility? | 20:49 |
| stone[no] | but take a backup of your working conf file first! :) | 20:50 |
| thingummywut | yup, but it reconfigures it as it was by default | 20:50 |
| thingummywut | as if xubuntu doesn't recognize my screen correctly | 20:51 |
| stone[no] | you can edit the conf file, start with only 800x600. And work your way upward until your happy. Your pc is a desktop? | 20:53 |
| stone[no] | alt+ctrl+Fn: edit x11 conf file. alt+ctrl+F7: ctrl+alt+backspace til restart x server. | 20:54 |
| thingummywut | yeh, i'm familiar with that | 21:11 |
| thingummywut | the settings should be fine now, yet it doesn't work properly | 21:11 |
| stone[no] | try to boot with another live distro, see if it's xubuntu related or hardware related. | 21:19 |
| thingummywut | i might, yeah | 21:23 |
| StevenSeagal | Hi to all | 22:18 |
| StevenSeagal | There is anyone that can help me? | 22:19 |
| StevenSeagal | I've a problem | 22:19 |
| StevenSeagal | with xubuntu installation | 22:20 |
| StevenSeagal | during this installation | 22:20 |
| StevenSeagal | the system ask me password | 22:22 |
| StevenSeagal | but i don't know waht | 22:22 |
| StevenSeagal | ;( | 22:22 |
| StevenSeagal | :P | 22:25 |
| StevenSeagal | :D | 22:25 |
| StevenSeagal | }:-) | 22:25 |
| Nisse | hey | 22:39 |
| Nisse | Nisseus | 22:40 |
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| Nisseus | Hey | 22:42 |
| Nuked | anyone in here well versed in video encoding | 23:10 |
| Nuked | ? | 23:11 |
| soldats | do you mean how to encode files | 23:13 |
| Nuked | kind of.. I am encoding stuff using dvdrip and the likes. I get videos that start to play normally, then slow down then plays normally. This repeats throughout whatever it is that I encode | 23:15 |
| soldats | what program are you using to view videos | 23:16 |
| Nuked | vlc, kaffeine, totem... | 23:16 |
| Nuked | they all show the videos the same | 23:16 |
| soldats | is it slow in vlc?? | 23:16 |
| Nuked | yep | 23:16 |
| soldats | man then im not sure that program is pretty fast in my perspective maybe you should try a new program to encode in | 23:17 |
| Nuked | it plays normal for five or six seconds, then slows down, then speeds up.. its the weirdest thing | 23:17 |
| soldats | have you tried a different encoding program | 23:17 |
| Nuked | soldats same results with other programs | 23:18 |
| Nuked | I thought it was a bum xvid... but I get similar results with other encoders as well | 23:18 |
| soldats | hmm sorry i was just thinking of a simple way since that happened to me a long time ago but im not faminliar with dvdrip | 23:18 |
| Nuked | soldats its everything I tried so far | 23:19 |
| Nuked | acidrip as well | 23:19 |
| Nuked | I have tried from .iso and from actual dvd | 23:19 |
| Nuked | same issue | 23:19 |
| soldats | have you tried looking at the dvdrip homepage for any bug reports and if there isnt any bug reports id suggest you send one | 23:20 |
| soldats | you should also rip them at the slowest speed possible to reduce lag | 23:20 |
| Nuked | I figured that would be a non issue if I did it from an ISO instead' | 23:21 |
| soldats | sorry im not well versed in ripping dvds and i didnt find anything valuable on google either | 23:23 |
| Nuked | soldats your effort is appreciated nonetheless | 23:24 |
| Nuked | thanks | 23:24 |
| soldats | Nuked, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip have you thought about reinstalling dvdrip | 23:29 |
| Nuked | soldats I have indeed, but I doubt that would fix the issue | 23:30 |
| Nuked | matter of fact, I think I have tried that already | 23:30 |
| soldats | damni wish i could help | 23:31 |
| Nuked | soldats man you have done more than enough, trust me | 23:33 |
| Nuked | most times I just get snowed in | 23:33 |
| Nuked | a simple cat .bash_history shows that I have indeed reinstalled dvd rip | 23:34 |
| soldats | if i had a dvd player and dvdrip im sure id be able to help more | 23:34 |
| Nuked | no dvd player?! | 23:35 |
| soldats | nope | 23:35 |
| Nuked | die hard ascii fan? | 23:35 |
| soldats | not really i normally just enjoy listening to music, i watch small videos but my dvd player is external and on my tv | 23:36 |
| soldats | my computer is way too slow to play anything over 25 minutes at high quality | 23:36 |
| Nuked | How old is the box that you are using? | 23:37 |
| zention | truns out the cards just needed mixing up and reseating | 23:37 |
| zention | so I will blame myself for that | 23:38 |
| zention | which mean xubuntu pretty much installed everything without a problem | 23:38 |
| soldats | Nuked, its about 5 or 6 years old its has 1 gig processor and 256mb or ram | 23:41 |
| soldats | its slow but with xubuntu its still runs nice and plays 25 min videos fine | 23:42 |
| Nuked | Its great to know that you can still use that box | 23:42 |
| soldats | yea if i ever can come up with some money ill be getting a new one or building one | 23:43 |
| Nuked | yeah, and you can install pfsense, smoothwall or monowall on that box and use it as a router | 23:44 |
| Nuked | or as an mp3 file server or something | 23:45 |
| soldats | yea it works for that which is cool | 23:45 |
| soldats | but since i do a lot of work with graphics id like to build a faster machine | 23:45 |
| Nuked | hell cluster it for the boost in render time | 23:46 |
| Nuked | now if only I could figure out how to convert the VIDEO_TS to an .ogm xvid 2000 kbps with ac3 copied from the dvd ID be set | 23:50 |
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