[00:21] <sebas> mhb: It's the peeing in the pool problem.
[00:21] <Riddell> eww
[00:21] <sebas> If 1 person does it, it makes up for 1000 not doing it.
[00:23] <sebas> Another problem is that some people don't think about the effect of their words.
[00:23] <sebas> If anyone posting on blog or dot would think 3 seconds if a) he would say the same if it were a personal / physical dialogue, and b) what he himself would feel if he got such feedback, the world would be a better place.
[00:26] <nixternal> sebas: I would say the same on my blog if it was mean and rude, except to you...you look like a big dude...I might have to hire Riddell and a few people to help out :p
[00:26] <nixternal> s/same on my blog/same in person
[00:28] <nixternal> I have the good water treatment in my pool...whoever pees in it will get noticed right away, as they will have a greenish area around them :)
[00:28] <Jucato> (you're all big dudes...)
[00:28] <Jucato> (morning!!)
[00:28] <nixternal> and I am trying to get bigger...it just isn't working
[00:28] <nixternal> mornin'
[00:31] <sebas> nixternal: HEhe
[00:33] <Riddell> nixternal: alpha 1 page looks great.  I removed some bits about LTS since that might not apply.  I think alpha 1 will be released shortly so I'll remove the disclaimer at the top then
[00:35] <nixternal> Riddell: groovy
[00:39] <claydoh> congrats apachelogger!
[00:42] <Riddell> let apachelogger be an inspiration to everyone, you can all be MOTU
[00:43] <coreymon77> huh?
[00:45] <nixternal> heck, I should be an inspiration for future MOTUs...I am a MOTU and still have no idea what I am doing :p
[00:46] <claydoh> lol then I could fit right in then :)
[00:46] <coreymon77> i dont even know that that is
[00:46] <coreymon77> so, i beat all of you
[00:46] <claydoh> I used to whip up some rather simple rpm packages for Lycoris
[00:46]  * Riddell pokes claydoh into doing some merges
[00:47] <claydoh> then I saw 'real' rpm files and was boggled
[00:47] <claydoh> I don't hinkI remember s single bit about rpms, good thin I an not using that type of sysrwnm :)
[00:47] <claydoh> I don't think rather
[00:48] <nixternal> rpms sucked to package a while back...I think SUSE helped out making it easier with their build system
[00:48] <claydoh> gimme a how to or something and i can try :)
[00:48] <nixternal> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU
[00:48] <nixternal> there are a bunch of them there :)
[00:49] <claydoh> well the ones I did were rather simple, even wine's wasn't to difficult, but I tink they were all rmp v2, v3 seemed way more complex
[00:49] <claydoh> at least many and suses had more scripting involved
[00:49] <claydoh> errr mandy and suse
[00:52] <claydoh> ok no more typing for me till I get a light over here, sorry
[00:58] <nixternal> ls
[00:58] <nixternal> hahaha
[00:58] <nixternal> what a moron...forgot I was in irssi
[00:59]  * coreymon77 agrees
[01:13] <Riddell> so, who's going to merge kdiff3?
[01:14] <nixternal> I can do that
[01:15] <nixternal> looks like an easy enough merge
[04:56] <nixternal> way to quiet in here
[04:58] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:58] <Hobbsee> everyone's preparing for the meeting
[05:01] <nixternal> 6 hours from now :)
[05:01]  * nixternal will be fast asleep
[05:03] <nixternal> and tomorrow I am giving 3 talks: KDE 4 (30 min), Developing Kubuntu (30 min), and Open Education (30 min)
[05:03] <nixternal> and we are expecting a huge ice/snow storm, looking forward to it :(
[05:07] <nixternal> Riddell: kdiff3 merge uploaded!
[05:07] <Hobbsee> nixternal: you have to come anyway :P
[05:08] <nixternal> at 5am? I will be there in spirit :)
[05:09] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:11] <nixternal> it is tough to make class at 10am let alone 5am
[10:32]  * Hobbsee waves
[10:41] <Hobbsee> Kubuntu meeting in 20 minute
[10:41] <Hobbsee> s
[10:41] <Jucato> oh...
[10:41] <Jucato> that's tonight?
[10:42]  * Jucato is really out of it
[10:42] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:42] <Jucato> good thing we finished dinner early :/
[10:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:42]  * Hobbsee has dinner here
[10:43] <Jucato> :)
[10:50] <marseillai> Riddell: i don't know if this error is known but logwatch tell me this every days :
[10:50] <marseillai> /etc/cron.daily/logrotate:
[10:50] <marseillai> error: kdm-kde4:1 duplicate log entry for /var/log/kdm.log
[10:50] <marseillai> run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1
[10:50] <marseillai> just to report it
[10:52] <Riddell> marseillai: ok, should be fixable easily enough
[10:52] <Riddell> I need to fix the postinst script for that too
[10:52] <marseillai> Riddell: it's not really annoying ... just logwatch report me that so i report to you...
[10:57] <Riddell> allee: do you have plans for the libgphoto2 merge?
[11:00] <allee> Riddell: not yet, top item is currently fai.  Is there a new libgphoto release?
[11:01] <Tonio_> hi !!
[11:01] <Jucato> meeting time
[11:01] <Tonio_> meeting now ?
[11:01] <Hobbsee> yes
[11:01] <allee> Tonio_: YES!
[11:01] <Jucato> yep
[11:02] <Tonio_> oki ;)
[11:02] <Jucato> stdin: ping
[11:02] <stdin> Jucato: pong
[11:02] <Tonio_> let's go
[11:02] <Jucato> ok just checking :)
[11:02] <stdin> yep, I'm alive :)
[11:02] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: already started ?
[11:03] <stdin> just starting/started
[11:03] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: just starting
[11:03] <Tonio_> oki
[11:10] <mhb> ooh
[11:11] <Riddell> morning mhb
[11:11] <mhb> sorry I am late
[11:33] <Riddell> kwwii: don't forget your family!
[11:33] <kwwii> Riddell: they are going to take the bus, I called :-)
[11:35] <sebastian^> good morning everybody
[11:35] <Hobbsee> hi
[11:37] <sebastian^> hmm one really stupid question ...
[11:37] <sebastian^> the kubuntu booting screen only appears on 64bit systems ...?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> ...no?
[11:38] <mhb> sebastian^: no, it appears on both
[11:38] <sebastian^> great, the i have a bug on two different systems where i386 is running
[11:38] <Jucato> it appears in my dreams sometimes too :/
[11:39]  * Jucato wonders if nixternal is awake now :)
[11:39] <sebastian^> one 64bit laptop and one 32bit desktop system, both with i386. then i will take a look these days why ... :)
[11:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: he wasn't planning to be
[11:39] <Jucato> ah ok :)
[11:40]  * Jucato was planning to call him as prosecution's witness :)
[11:42] <Jucato> oh we really will end up maintaining/developing D3lphin ourselves from now on. https://marrat.homelinux.org/D3lphin
[11:42] <Jucato> (unless we could get marcel into Kubuntu to help us)
[11:43]  * Hobbsee headdseks
[11:43] <Jucato> :)
[11:43]  * Jucato just read that now... should have tried looking for it earlier
[11:43] <Hobbsee> why oh why are forums people not skilled enough to realise what is an email address, and waht is a http(s) link?
[11:44] <Jucato> O.o
[11:44] <Hobbsee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627717#post3870983
[11:44] <Jucato> oh ubuntuforums...
[11:44]  * Jucato closes
[11:44] <Jucato> hehe j/k :P
[11:45] <Jucato> lol
[11:52] <mhb> heh, being away from the computer is the way I was late :o)
[11:52] <mhb> err, is the reason
[11:53]  * Jucato was almost away from the computer....and in front of the dinner table :)
[11:53]  * mhb went seeking, but didnt find it
[11:54]  * jpatrick goes to find some food
[11:54]  * Jucato eats jpatrick...
[12:05] <Jucato> dthacker: I suggest KubuntuTeamReport as the name. much closer to  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TeamReports :D
[12:05] <stdin> Jucato: how about Kubuntu/TeamReport ?
[12:06] <Jucato> sure :) then you can add it to the "Table of Contents" in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ :D
[12:06] <stdin> I have one good idea a month, and I used it on the 1st :p
[12:06] <ardchoille> lol
[12:07] <Jucato> lol
[12:11] <imbrandon> Riddell / Tonio_ : ok i have the dolphin kde3 + ark issues totaly fixed localy, ok to upload dolphin now or are we still in alpha-1 freeze ?
[12:12] <dthacker> hey, it's the first and we already have good news!
[12:12] <imbrandon> Tonio_: folders OR files compressable now, and with zip/gzip/bzip2 :)
[12:12] <ardchoille> Nice!
[12:13] <jpatrick> mhb: ^^ :)
[12:13] <Tonio_> imbrandon: I can upload
[12:13] <Tonio_> imbrandon: also can you ;)
[12:13] <imbrandon> yea i CAN upload, more i was asking if we was still in the freeze or if someone else had more to add
[12:13] <imbrandon> mhb: ^^
[12:13] <Jucato> how about the image manipulation context menus? not sure if they;re from imagemagick or graphicsmagick
[12:14] <imbrandon> Jucato: give me a list and i'll work on it, i guess i'm the new dolphin context menu person :)
[12:14] <Jucato> heh :)
[12:14] <Jucato> imbrandon: basically the problem is those non-servicemenu context menus installed by other apps. :(
[12:15] <imbrandon> so Riddell / Tonio_ / Hobbsee / mhb : safe for me to upload at this time ?
[12:15] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yep for me
[12:15] <imbrandon> Jucato: i can still look at those
[12:15] <imbrandon> Jucato: just send a list to my email imbrandon@kubuntu.org
[12:15] <Jucato> ok
[12:15] <imbrandon> of TODO's , or better yet file bugs and point me to them
[12:15] <imbrandon> :)
[12:16] <Jucato> will do :)
[12:16]  * Jucato hasn't gotten around to his adept bug hunting spree yet :(
[12:16] <Jucato> real life sucks!
[12:17] <mhb> hmm...
[12:17] <mhb> what would you as a developers want? Better D3lphin or more marketing?
[12:17] <waylandbill> ok. it's been a while. how do I get the latest d3lphin sources? it's in a bazaar repository is it not?
[12:18] <jpatrick> mhb: better dolphin to market later
[12:18] <Jucato> apt-get source dolphin
[12:19] <Jucato> mhb: better d3lphin... we can have more people to do marketing than people to do developing :)
[12:19] <stdin> it's easier to market a working product
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> ^.^
[12:19] <waylandbill> Jucato: I know that, but is that the one to examine for possible changes? I'd think a head version would be wanted right?
[12:20] <Jucato> ah. that I don't know :P
[12:22] <dthacker> I'm a bSo based on the discussions at UDS, which I've only heard third and fourth hand, what have we lost from Canonical and what do we need to replace?
[12:22] <dthacker> in the marketing department.
[12:22] <mhb> dthacker: they dont promote us at all, basically
[12:23] <mhb> we are sometimes in their press releases in the end
[12:23] <mhb> but nothing else
[12:24] <Jucato> (but considering what Xubuntu's position is right now... we're lucky...)
[12:25] <dthacker> sounds like we need a marketing spec, and then start to recruit.
[12:25] <Jucato> (recruitment is one of my agenda topics I guess...)
[12:26] <jpatrick> dthacker: that's https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuMarketing from last year basically
[12:26]  * dthacker reads
[12:28] <dthacker> yes, we want to fill out that page.  Is this appropriate to discuss on the current marketing ML?
[12:29]  * dthacker notes that the meeting has reached 90 minutes and is losing momentum.
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> wait....it started an over hour ago I was late?aaa!
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> #$%^ UTC
[12:30] <stdin>  11:00 UTC
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> which is 7 EST?
[12:31] <Jucato> dthacker: considering our last meeting was quite a long time ago...
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> or.... was that with.. DST
[12:31] <stdin> UTC doesn't have DST
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> but EST does
[12:32] <dthacker> mhb: how much of a parallel universe do we need to build?
[12:34] <waylandbill> 11:00 UTC was 6:00 EST (EDT has expired)
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> yea....I got kinda mixed up :(
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> oh well, I couldn't have been there at 6 anyway :D
[12:38] <mhb> dthacker: the goal is to promote the idea that Kubuntu and Ubuntu are equals
[12:39] <mhb> dthacker: if you like KDE, and you want Ubuntu quality, go for Kubuntu
[12:39] <mhb> dthacker: not "we have a community branch for KDE called Kubuntu, but Ubuntu is way polished and better for you
[12:39] <mhb> "
[12:39] <Jucato> (but in reality...we are not.. and trying to leave up to that "promotion" is one thing's that killing us)
[12:39] <imbrandon> mhb: just uploaded the ark fix, i'll ping you tomarrow about the other issues
[12:39] <imbrandon> dolphin (0.9.2-0ubuntu3) hardy; urgency=low
[12:39] <imbrandon>   * added kubuntu_07_ark_contextmenu.diff
[12:39] <imbrandon>     fixes file compression for files and folders
[12:39] <imbrandon>     also adds .zip file support
[12:40] <mhb> imbrandon: okay, thanks!
[12:40] <mhb> Jucato: they are not equals, but we are doing the most to bring Ubuntu philosophy with KDE, and we are quite good at it
[12:40] <mhb> Jucato: I dont see a reason why we should market it in a different way
[12:41] <imbrandon> Tonio_: try out that fix at first chance you get , to see if that is exactly what you ment, but i have a feeling it was
[12:41] <imbrandon> gnight all
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> Lure: what do you want me to do with my power-manager patch? should I introduce a check?
[12:43] <Lure> nosrednaekim: I think we should either: 1) check that only one unit is actually used by HAL, 2) introduce check and act accordingly
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> 2) is probably the best, since the DOCs seem to hint that more than one measurment can be given. I already wrote up a patch to check, needs two lines in powermanager.py though.
[12:45] <mhb> I am sorry, but I have to go
[12:45] <mhb> see you folks
[12:45] <Lure> nosrednaekim: that is better
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> see ya mhb
[12:46] <sebastian^> ciao mhb
[12:54]  * claydoh suffered from the Blunt Fist of Spouse
[12:54] <jpatrick> claydoh: ouch
[12:54] <claydoh> who'd think that 6am wakeups were bad :)
[12:55] <jpatrick> I woke up exactly 11UTC
[12:55] <claydoh> she did not appreciate my keyboard clickety clicks at that hour
[12:55] <claydoh> and I suffered the consequences
[12:56] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:56] <Hobbsee> poor claydoh
[12:56] <claydoh> luckily the fist is purely figurative, else I would need some pin killers
[12:56] <claydoh> pain killers
[12:56] <claydoh> nah, not poor, just didn't ask or communicate
[13:17] <Riddell> Hobbsee: what are you up to with stdin's membership?
[13:18] <Riddell> txwikinger: how long do you recon you can do an irc talk about bug triage for?
[13:18] <txwikinger> Hmm.. .let me have a look at the material that is already there
[13:19] <Jucato> whew
[13:19] <Hobbsee> Riddell: done it
[13:19] <txwikinger> I think it should be more or less the same as the general bug triage
[13:19] <txwikinger> And it probably depends on the questions ask
[13:19] <txwikinger> ed
[13:20] <txwikinger> what about 0.5h Riddell?
[13:22] <Riddell> txwikinger: great, I'll put you down, thanks
[13:22] <txwikinger> np Riddell
[13:28] <Tonio__> re
[13:28] <Tonio__> is knetworkmanager working for yo ?
[13:28] <Tonio__> it stoped detecting my network cards since yesterday
[13:28] <Tonio_> I didn't see any specific update causing the trouble.......
[13:30] <Tonio_> ** (nm-applet:6840): WARNING **: <WARN>  nma_dbus_init(): could not acquire its service.  dbus_bus_acquire_service() says: 'Connection ":1.24" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file'
[13:30] <Tonio_> ouch........
[13:38] <Riddell> txwikinger: works for me
[13:58] <Riddell> Tonio_ rather
[14:02] <txwikinger> :)
[14:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: knetworkmanager has the same issue
[14:03] <Tonio_> Riddell: even changing the "default" to "allow".....
[14:03] <Tonio__> Riddell: what do you mean by "rather" ?
[14:03] <Tonio__> Riddell: I'm unsure that means positive or negative in that case :)
[14:05] <Jucato> hm. ardochille's gone... dthacker, I made https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/TeamReport already, so you can start adding and editing or whatever :)
[14:06] <Riddell> Tonio_: works for me
[14:06] <dthacker> Jucato: Ok,  I added myself as a reporter on the Ubuntu teams page as well.
[14:07] <Tonio_> Riddell: I suspect I broke something yesterday......
[14:07] <Tonio_> Riddell: Opportunity to test alpha I'd say ;)
[14:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: just as an evidence kubuntu isn't the same status than ubuntu :
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (Ubuntu)
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (Kubuntu)
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (Edubuntu)
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (Ubuntu JeOS)
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (Xubuntu)
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (Gobuntu)
[14:09] <Tonio_>   http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/hardy/alpha-1/ (UbuntuStudio)
[14:09] <Tonio_> look at the urls
[14:09] <Tonio_> standard ubuntu -> separate from the others
[14:10] <Tonio_> that may not mean a lot, but the all this is making kubuntu a de facto derivative, although I don't agree it is....
[14:10] <Tonio_> everything is typically done as if it was
[14:11] <Tonio_> sorry for the copy paste....
[14:12] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll test the alternate cd today
[14:13] <Riddell> that's always annoyed me
[14:13] <Riddell> although not sufficiently enough to complain
[14:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: of course, but it's a lot of little things like this that make people considering kubuntu a derivative
[14:15] <Tonio_> hard to fight against this without a deep change in the way canonical communicates....
[14:16] <Tonio_> each point is not enough to complain, but group them, we have reasons to...
[16:21] <nixternal> YES! finally Kubuntu Marketing! I would kill to work on that one, even turn it into a final project for my business/marketing degree
[16:21] <nixternal> Riddell: if you want to start working on something, let me know and I can whip up some ideas
[16:29] <Jucato> nixternal: do you already have some ideas in mind? :)
[16:32] <nixternal> always have ideas in mind
[16:36] <Jucato> :)
[16:37] <alleeHol> Riddell: about system-config-printer:  Anything beyond the wireframe images done?   So a) one has to learn qtdesigner and get used with s-c-p backend code
[16:38] <alleeHol> b) implement it ;)
[17:10] <alleeHol> seele: ^^ ?
[18:10] <seele> alleeHol: mmm?
[18:38] <buz> jpatrick: i tried the latest luks update
[18:38] <buz> i now get to see encrypted devices in media:/ but can't open them
[20:19] <mhb> I am so sorry I am late
[20:23] <nixternal> ARGH! who broke my sound? send them to me, they must pay! :p
[20:24] <txwikinger> hehe.. have you shotgun ready? :)
[20:25] <nixternal> oh ya
[20:26] <mhb> sound better than heart
[20:27] <ScottK> How was the meeting today.
[20:27] <mhb> ScottK: hmm, not really groundbreaking
[20:28] <ScottK> OK.
[20:28] <mhb> ScottK: not even soundbreaking or heartbreaking
[20:28] <ScottK> Glad I didn't get up early then (it was at 7AM here).
[20:28] <davmor2> hey guys.  I'm having an issue with kdesudo in system setting in hardy.
[20:33] <mhb> davmor2: bug submitted?
[20:34] <davmor2> I'll double check I think I did but things were a little hectic
[20:36] <nixternal> ScottK: 6am for you :)
[20:36] <nixternal> 5am for me :(
[20:36]  * ScottK thought is was Noon UTC?
[20:36] <ScottK> nixternal: ^^
[20:37] <nixternal> 11:00 UTC
[20:37] <ScottK> Ah.  Even more glad I didn't get up at 7AM to find I'd missed the meeting then.
[20:40] <imbrandon> moins all
[20:40] <davmor2> mhb I have now bug 173319
[20:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173319 in kdesudo "kdesudo seems to be broken in system setting in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173319
[20:40] <imbrandon> mhb: do we have a current working list of prioritizd dolphin bugs ( other than tralling LP ofcourse ) , if not thats fine just wanted to know where we stand
[20:41] <mhb> imbrandon: we dont have anything that isnt on LP
[20:41] <imbrandon> cool cool okies
[20:41] <ScottK> imbrandon: Please kill the fish.
[20:41] <mhb> imbrandon: I did some triage there ages ago, but not much... feel free to prioritize yourself.
[20:41] <imbrandon> k
[20:42] <imbrandon> ScottK: ?
[20:42] <ScottK> kdelibs (IIRC) drives Dolph3n and Konqueror to default to the Fish protocol for an 'ssh' connection.  I think it's a bad idea.
[20:42] <mhb> ScottK: it is not a fish, btw
[20:43] <ScottK> imbrandon: Should use SFTP by default.
[20:43] <imbrandon> mhb: i'm gonna check how the ubuntu3 build went while i slept, most of these important but small fixes can be -backports canidates ( but i'd like to get as many done as possible as to not be backporting every two days )
[20:43] <mhb> ScottK: oh, you mean "the" fish, not the fish.. :o)
[20:43] <ScottK> mhb: Agreed, but it was funnier the way I said it.
[20:43] <imbrandon> ScottK: ahh ok, yea i'll look into that
[20:43] <ScottK> imbrandon: Thanks.  There is a bug on it in LP.  Marked invalid against Dolph3n and active against kdelibs.
[20:44] <imbrandon> k
[20:47] <imbrandon> mhb: also we should probably get stdin to grab those desktop files i fixed for dolphin3 and port/copy them to dolphin4
[20:48] <nixternal> is there a way to get sftp to use your ~/.ssh/config file? I hate having to type in everything when using sftp
[20:48] <nixternal> with fish, I just do fish://svr1
[20:53] <imbrandon> ScottK: after a bit of searching i dont see the bug, can you give me a bug # when you get a moment
[20:53]  * ScottK looks
[20:54] <ScottK> imbrandon: Bug 133957
[20:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133957 in kdelibs "Dolphin uses fish: instead of sftp: for "SSH" connections" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133957
[20:54] <imbrandon> killer thanks
[20:55] <ScottK> No problem.  Thanks for looking into it.
[21:04] <imbrandon> ScottK: where did you comeup with x-wizard_service.desktop ?
[21:04] <ScottK> imbrandon: I don't remember.  It was a while ago.
[21:05] <imbrandon> ahh, i see that no where in the distro ( via packages.u.c )
[21:05]  * imbrandon digs some more
[21:05] <imbrandon> this might need to wait untill this evening when i can get at my kubuntu install ( on ubuntu atm )
[21:05] <ScottK> Ah.
[21:06]  * ScottK exhausted his limited knowledge of KDE stuff to get as far as he did.
[21:09]  * mhb 
[21:09] <mhb> is exhausted, too :o)
[21:11] <ryanakca> imbrandon: x-wizard_service.desktop is in the source package for a 3.x kdebase or kdenetwork, iirc... I had found it a while back...
[21:12]  * ryanakca hunts too
[21:22] <imbrandon> ryanakca: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=x-wizard_service.desktop&searchmode=filelist&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[21:57] <coreymon_> hi everyone
[21:57] <coreymon_> so, what happened at the meeting/
[21:57] <coreymon_> ?
[22:01] <jpatrick> coreymon77: nothing too eventful
[22:10] <ryanakca> imbrandon: *shrugs*
[22:14] <imbrandon> ryanakca: :) np i'll dig more here in a few hours
[22:15] <imbrandon> Riddell: ping
[22:32] <ryanakca> imbrandon: Found it!
[22:32] <imbrandon> ryanakca: cool, where ?
[22:32] <ryanakca> imbrandon: it's an alias to knetattach.desktop
[22:32] <imbrandon> ahh makes sense, sweet ok
[22:32] <ryanakca> imbrandon: umm... dunno where it originates from... I just right clicked the item in remote:/ and copied to home folder.
[22:33] <imbrandon> ryanakca: got it :)
[22:34] <imbrandon> imbrandon@hood:~$ apt-file search knetattach.desktop
[22:34] <imbrandon> app-install-data: usr/share/app-install/desktop/knetattach.desktop
[22:34] <imbrandon> kde4base-data: usr/lib/kde4/share/applications/kde4/knetattach.desktop
[22:34] <imbrandon> kdebase-bin: usr/share/applications/kde/knetattach.desktop
[22:34] <imbrandon> imbrandon@hood:~$
[22:34] <imbrandon> :)
[23:39] <mhb> kde4 delayed, who would have known? :o)
[23:40] <mhb> I hereby thank our Riddle & Gossip Department!