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corinthPupeno: What does Mono's installer du?00:00
BluesKaj!hi | Nurburgring00:00
ubotuNurburgring: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:00
Pupenocorinth: it installs Mono.00:00
corinthPupeno: Lol, sorry. What is Mono?00:00
Pupenocorinth: a recent nice version, with dev tools.00:00
Pupenocorinth: an free implementation of .Net.00:00
Pupenocorinth: http://mono-project.org00:01
mihai_Does anyone know why i get the message BREAK (install) each time I try to install something in Adept?00:04
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draikmihai_: It means that a package you are trying to install conflicts with something that is installed.00:05
vzduchmihai_: didn't you have that earlier today already? o000:05
Kveldulfhello00:06
draiksMonk: I would suggest that you google "install GRUB"00:06
Pupenomihai_: if you are not afraid, I'd recommend you to open a terminal (konsole) and run aptitude.00:06
draikHello Kveldulf00:06
Nukedcan anyone help me convert a video_ts folder to an .ogm xvid 2000kbps with ac3 ?00:06
draikNuked: Have you tried FFMPEG?00:07
Nukeddraik.. that and transcode scare me more than freddy cruger and oprah winfrey00:08
Kveldulfcould I maybe get some advice?  having some problems with installing K locks up every time i get to formatting the disk.00:08
vzduchNuked: transcode can be used w/ K3b00:08
vzduchNuked: then there's k9copy and dvdrip00:08
vzduchpick one00:08
Nukeddvdrip produces a file that is most undesirable00:08
vzduchhuh?00:09
NukedIm having issues with dvdrip00:09
draikFreddy is friendly and Oprah is tax loophole-abusing, dolphin saving salmon eating hypocrite.00:09
mihai_vzduch : Yes, but i'm still having problems00:09
Nukeddraik, see why im scared!00:09
vzduchwho the hell is Freddy?00:10
Nukedthe output causes the video to slow every couple of seconds00:10
Nukedvzduch, the evil version of edward scissorhands00:10
Nukedkind of00:10
vzduchah, that Freddy..00:10
Nukedyep00:11
vzduchKrueger is his last name00:11
Kveldulfso maybe someone has seen that kind of thing and could advise me?00:11
Nukedthey both pale in comparison next to these video conversion programs00:11
Nukeddraik, do you think you could possibly provide a command that I could use or something?00:12
draikSince we're speaking of video, what can I use to record Uplink (http://www.uplink.co.uk)00:12
draikNuked: Hmmm... DO IT! DO IT NOW!!!00:12
vzduchmihai_: as I said hours ago.. paste the output of apt-get to pastebin where the error occurs - everything from entering the command to the next prompt00:12
draikNuked: That's a pretty direct command :p00:13
Nukeddraik, get out of the chopper00:13
Nuked(who is your daddy and what does he do)00:13
Kveldulfno one?00:13
mihai_vzduch : I did00:13
mihai_under the name mihai00:13
draikNuked: GET DOWN!00:13
NukedRUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPERD00:14
NukedD00:14
Nukeddang00:14
BluesKajnuked there's also an alternative that recommend that you can run in the CLI or GUI , called Tovid ...the app also has a support chat on this server  , #tovid00:14
draikBumper?00:14
Kveldulfthis is a support channel?00:14
draikKveldulf: Define "support"00:14
vzduchwth..00:14
vzduch!paste > vzduch00:15
Nukedd is next to the r and00:15
Kveldulflike some one might try to help00:15
denn_on_livecdhey guys...have a bit of a tough decision to make here cause new installation doesn't want to boot (fsck problem but fsck -r <dev> doesn't help), so i need some help)00:15
_michaelHello I'm having a problem using GCC 4.1.2 on Kubuntu 7.04. I think it has to do with the header file locations but I can't be certain. The gcc -v error output is at http://pastebin.com/m51219228 I'd appreciate any help or suggestions you can offer.00:15
draikKveldulf: You mean help with something they might know and say nothing if they don't?00:15
draik!anyone | Kveldulf00:16
ubotuKveldulf: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?00:16
Kveldulfso no one here has ever heard of k failing to install correctly?00:16
vzduchmihai_: the pastebin doesn't seem to have a search function.. you still have the link?00:16
draikDo you mean KDE?00:16
NukedBluesKaj, that program does the opposite of what I need to have done00:16
Kveldulfdidnt see my first post?00:17
denn_on_livecdhistory: installed kubuntu 7.10, with other partitions for gentoo; installed gentoo ok, but now kubuntu, at boot, says 3 partitions (related to gentoo) have probs,00:17
Kveldulffailure to format the hard disk00:17
Kveldulfkubuntu install disk00:17
Kveldulfnot kde00:17
denn_on_livecdwhat to do?00:18
wwZ|Commimichael: Seems that you're missing libstdc++00:19
xevilKveldulf: give us some background... you have an OS on that drive at all?00:19
denn_on_livecdi'm afraid that if i use the old pre-gentoo mbr-backup the UUID's won't be valid anymore for gentoo partitions00:19
mihai_vzduch: No, i don't have it :(00:20
Kveldulfno00:20
Kveldulfbrand new00:20
Nukeddraik, some help you are (lol)00:20
vzduchmihai_: I just checked my log, you didn't give a link00:20
Kveldulfeven tried disconnecting all the other drives00:20
draikNuked: Huh?00:20
Kveldulfany other info that would be helpful?00:21
Nukeddraik, started off with ffmpeg and got into Arnold Schwarzenegger00:21
_michaelwwZ|Commi: I have the /usr/include/c++/4.1.2 header files there are there any package names that I have to install because libstdc++6 is installed (not the dev though)00:21
* draik has ADD among other things00:21
wwZ|CommiI think you have to install the dev-Package too00:22
denn_on_livecdhow do i fix this fsck problem so kubuntu will boot if 'fsck -r..." doesn't work?00:22
Nukeddraik, it would seem that im destined to stay solutionless00:22
wwZ|Commimichael: should be something like libstdc++6-dev00:23
draikNuked: in Konversation (or any other CLI terminal) "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg && ffmpeg --help"00:23
vzduchmihai_: again.. run the command that results in the 'break' message, then paste all of its output to pastebin and give us the link to the resulting webpage00:24
Nukeddraik, ffmpeg: missing argument for option '--help'00:25
Nukedwhat were the odds of that?00:25
_michaelwwZ|Commi: When installing libstdc++6-dev and it says it will install cpp, g++, and gcc version 3.4 will this affect my current gcc 4.1.2?00:25
draikNuked: man ffmpeg00:25
wwZ|CommiUhm...00:25
_michaelwwZ|Commi: I don't think it should it doesn't say it will remove gcc-4.1.200:26
wwZ|CommiAs far as I know it should't do so00:26
wwZ|Commishouldn't00:26
xevilKveldulf: you're sure the install disk has no errors?00:26
_michaelwwZ|Commi: ok good00:26
wwZ|CommiOn my system theres gcc 3.4, 3.3, 4.1 and 4.2 installed00:27
Kveldulfnot sure, Its downloaded?00:27
Kveldulfhow to be sure?00:27
wwZ|CommiAnd as default it uses 4.100:27
_michaelwwZ|Commi: Do you know how to get extra directories searched for header files? Is there an environment variable?00:27
wwZ|CommiI just know the parameter for gcc00:28
xevilKveldulf: you might also try MEMTEST on the install disk to see if you might have a memory problem00:28
mihai_vzduch : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46378/00:29
wwZ|CommiBut I don't know, how the environment variable is named00:29
Kveldulfill try that now back in a few.00:29
Kveldulfafk00:29
level1hi, I'm trying to make a bootable ubuntu flash drive.  It boots and is able to mount file systems, but it then it drops into some sort of (initramfs) prompt for no reason... there are no error codes to indicate why...00:30
vzduchmihai_: thanks.. as a 2nd thing, a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list would be helpful :)00:31
mihai_vzduch : ok, just a minute00:31
_michaelwwZ|Commi: It didn't work 3.4 gives me this error http://pastebin.com/m3474159900:32
mihai_vzduch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46380/00:32
wwZ|Commihmmm00:32
wwZ|CommiHow do you compile it? Do you type the whole thing in or are you running it within an editor or something?00:33
xevilKveldulf: you can check your CD with one of these utilities... http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/00:34
_michaelwwZ|Commi: I am in an embedded konsole in kdevelop I type in: "gcc ./"Hello World.cpp" (with -v ) for verbose sometimes but nothing special00:35
draikOther than gtk-recordmydesktop, krecordmydesktop and screenkast, what can I use to actually record my desktop? This is what I don't want... http://www.draikunderlord.com/uplink.ogg00:36
vzduchmihai_: comment line 1 out (put a # before it), and uncomment (remove # before the resp. line) lines 6, 8, 13, 15, 63, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, and if you like, 52 and 5900:36
vzduchmihai_: to do that, open /etc/apt/sources.list as root ('sudo') w/ a text editor00:36
vzduchor kdesudo, respectively, if you're going to use a graphical text editor like e.g. KWrite00:37
vzduchuse 'Run Command' in the menu for that00:37
vzduchwhen you're done, run 'sudo apt-get update', then try again00:38
wwZ|Commimichael: What includes are you using? It can also be that you have to give used libraries by hand. I remember a programm I wrote using GMP, I had to use "-l gmp" so gcc realized it had to include the GMP-Libs00:38
_michaelwwZ|Commi: I have "#inlcude <iostream>" as the first line of the file00:40
_michael*"#include <iostream>"00:40
mihai_vzduch : works now, indeed00:40
mihai_thanks!00:40
wwZ|Commihm00:40
vzduchmihai_: you're welcome :)00:41
_michaelwwZ|Commi: Interesting though I just successfully compiled a basic C program and it worked00:43
Nurburgringhow do I get write access in Dolphin to /root/boot/grub so I can copy in the "chain0" file for being able to boot OSX8600:43
wwZ|CommiMhm...00:44
wwZ|CommiI'm trying to figure out what goes wrong :D00:44
wwZ|CommiI think it's a normal "Hello World"-programm?00:44
HeppyCatgood evening channel00:44
_michaelwwZ|Commi: Well these are the source lines http://pastebin.com/m5a408a39 I think everything is ok though00:46
wwZ|Commimichael: I just tried that programm in my own machine, for me it works fine using "g++"00:47
wwZ|Commiinstead of "gcc"00:47
wwZ|CommiI think thats the solution, you have to use g++, not gcc00:47
wwZ|CommiWhen trying gcc it gives me the same error as you had00:48
HeppyCatany ideas how i can burn a .dmg (mac) cd image?00:48
BluesKajNurburgring, alt+F2 kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst00:50
_michaelwwZ|Commi: I can't thank you enough :-) It works now I'm gonna just change my bash alias around to g++ and I'll be running normally. Thanks Again :-)00:50
wwZ|Commimichael: no problem :)00:50
Kveldulfxevil: where is that option to check the memory?00:50
xevilKveldulf: it's on the install disk00:51
xevilKveldulf: you can check your CD with one of these utilities... http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/00:51
maverick_so, is it time now to try kde4 on gutsy00:52
maverick_?00:52
squarebottleHey, can anybody recommend a KDE application that I can use to syncronize two folders?00:52
maverick_i had 2 unsuccessful trials to install it on feisty...00:52
Kveldulfxevil: i did try check cd on the install disk and it locked up about 2/3 done so maybe its a bad disk but bad mem seems a real possibility too00:53
xevilKveldulf: probably a bad disk... can you burn the ISO image again?00:53
Kveldulfxevil: but I did not find an option to check the mem00:54
corinthsquarebottle: Beep me when you get an answer, I'd like to know, too.00:54
Nurburgringblueskaj: l did that and it brought up menu.lst in Kate... i already added "title "OSX86" rootnovereify bla bla bla" but what about putting the chain0 filr in the directory /root/boot/grub?00:54
HeppyCatsquarebottle: rsync?00:54
Nurburgringthanks 4 reply00:54
Kveldulfxevil: not tonight, going to need to buy some more dvds00:55
xevilKveldulf: the program name is memtest... I think an option comes up to run it when the CD first boots00:55
xevilKveldulf: a bad disk or a memory problem is all I can think of that would cause your troubles00:56
squarebottleHeppyCat: rsync is a protocol, not a frontend.00:56
squarebottleHeppyCat: Also, rsync requires a remote server to have rsync installed, so it's not appropriate for portable media devices really.00:57
Kveldulfxevil: Ill look again, but if its the cd there is nothing I can do tonight. Thanks for helping. Ill maybe check back tomorrow.00:57
xevilKveldulf: n/p later dude00:57
wordupsonhalp00:57
wordupsoni need to figure out what model my wifi usb adapter is00:57
wordupsonand what driver ubuntu is using for it00:57
BluesKajNurburgring, i gotta confess that I'm not familiar with root/root/files00:57
wordupsonhow can i figure that out?00:57
Kveldulfxevil: later00:58
BluesKajerr rot/boot00:59
xevillsusb -v01:00
BluesKaj<---getting tired , can't read or type01:00
NurburgringBluesKaj: k, thanks for tryin, i think I just need to have root privlage to copy the chain0 file there but kubuntu is only my second distro ever and Im not sure how to get admin root access. I wish there were a "browse as root" button01:00
Anon6702Bjr je galère avec Kubuntu 7.10 et l'afficahe 3D01:01
BluesKaj!root01:03
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:03
xevilNurburgring: have you tried kdesu konqueror?01:03
Nurburgringxevil: is that a joke?? :)01:04
user1hello01:05
xevilNurburgring: you said you wanted to browse as root... :)01:06
Nurburgringfk :)01:07
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Impietyi've done literally everything i could find to do to try to get mp3s to play with amarok, but for some reason it won't work01:08
Impietywould anyone know why?01:08
ZaNGaMaNi think i will instal kubuntu01:08
BluesKajImpiety, install libxine1-ffmpeg01:09
Impietyi have01:09
Impietyit still isn't working01:09
Impietyi've tried removing xine entirely01:09
Impietyand reinstalling it01:09
BluesKajhave you setup and unmuted alsamixer01:09
Impietyuh yeah, wmas work01:10
Impietyjust not mp301:10
Impietyamarok says it can't play it and asks if i want to let it install whatever it needs01:10
Impietyhowever, what it needs is installed01:10
BluesKajthen go for it01:10
Impietywhich confuses01:10
Impietyme01:10
ImpietyI used juk and with the gstreamer engine it worked01:10
Impietybut not with the xine engine01:11
tuxthepenguin533will kde4 make its way into kubuntu gusty01:11
ubuntuHi, I successfully install ubuntu to a livecd.  apt-cache search firefox returns results but apt-cache search vlc or apt-cache search yakuake don't... are there extra repos I have to add?01:13
Impietyi'm just going ot remove all of the xine and amarok stuff01:14
Impietyand see what happens01:14
xevilImpiety: do you have libxine1 installed?01:15
Impietyyes01:16
Impietythat's why all of this is so confusing01:16
Impietyeverything that it needs to work is installed01:16
Impietybut it's still giving me an error message01:16
Impietyso i'm just going to try it all again01:16
Radi01libxine1_ffmpeg01:16
Radi01-01:17
Impietyyeah01:17
ZaNGaMaNfor a newbie wich is better01:17
ZaNGaMaNkubuntu or mandriva?01:18
Radi01^ is the mp3 driver also libvisual needs installed01:18
Impietylibvisual01:18
Impietyhrm01:18
Impiety1 sec01:18
Radi01let me get the right one brb01:18
Impietyyeah01:19
Impietylibvisual was installed01:19
eeanNetworkManager has gone totally nuts on me01:19
eeanright now its connecting and unconnecting about twice a second or something01:20
Nurburgring2xevil: in konqueror i go to /root and therfe are no items... same with /root01:20
Radi010.4-001:20
eeanhow do you get a 'clean slate' with NetworkManager?01:20
Nurburgring2same with /root/boot/grub of coarse01:20
Impietyyeah, it's that version01:20
Radi01when all else fails re-boot to see if the scripts set..ya never know.01:21
Impietygood idea01:21
Radi01hey01:21
Radi01wait01:21
Radi01sudo touch /forcefsck01:21
Radi01do that to make a good clean boot01:21
Impietycool01:22
Impietyi'll brb01:22
Radi01k01:22
Impietythanks for the help man01:22
Radi01np01:22
markcanyone available to help a new user01:24
xeviljust ask your question... maybe someone can help01:25
Nurburgring2xevil: thanks i got it straitend out01:26
XacarithHas any one in here used openrpg?01:26
xevilNurburgring2: hidden files?01:26
Nurburgring2nope, konqueror somehow wasn't pointed correctly to my root01:27
markcI instatlled Kubuntu on my Dell Opti gx150.  intel 815 graphics are showing vertical lines about every 3cm on screen.  any sugguestions??01:27
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Impietyyeah01:27
Impietythat didn't work01:27
Radi01work01:27
Radi01oh boy01:27
Nurburgring2xevil, any ways, got the chain0 file there now and show have succesful tri boot  (xp,osx,Kubuntu)01:28
Radi01It does not play or what does it not do01:28
Impietyit's weird01:28
xevilImpiety: do you have libxine1-plugins installed?01:28
Impietywell, i did01:28
Impietyand it made no difference01:28
Radi01try installing those libs again since you have a clean boot01:29
markcI instatlled Kubuntu on my Dell Opti gx150.  intel 815 graphics are showing vertical lines about every 3cm on screen.  any sugguestions??01:34
Impietyumm01:36
Impietywhat driver did xorg use01:36
Impietywell, what driver is it using01:36
Radi01If no one here can help try ubuntu markc.01:36
Impietycheck int /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:36
markchold on01:36
Radi01Still nothing on amarok?01:37
Impietynah01:37
Impietyi'm just completely removing all of the xine libs01:37
markcIntel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]01:38
Radi01ok01:38
Impietyand amarok01:38
Impietyand reinstalling them01:38
Impietyumm01:38
Impietywhat driver did it use though01:38
Radi01cool just use the libs necessary for amarok 1rst..c what happens01:38
markcintel01:38
Impietyhrm01:38
Impietyyeah, that's what i'm going to try01:38
Impietyhrm01:38
Impietyit says intel next to driver01:38
Radi01ill get the exact ones 4 ya /stand by01:39
ImpietyI appreciate it01:39
Impietyhrm01:39
markcyes it does.  under the device section01:39
Impietyi've never tried to install with integrated stuff01:39
Impietymy other crappy comptuer has an integrated graphics thingy01:40
Impietyand it's sis01:40
Impietyand it didnt' work01:40
markcis there a intel 815 driver?01:40
markcor just the generic intel01:40
Impietyhow old is that laptop?01:41
markcnot a laptop01:41
markcdesktop01:41
Impietyoh wait01:41
Impietyduh01:41
Impietyyou never said it was01:41
Impietyhaha01:41
Impietywell, either way01:41
markcits cool01:41
Impietyhow old is it01:41
markca few years01:42
Impietyintel has some drivers on their site01:42
markcwhat distro01:42
Impietywell01:42
markcdeb or RPM?01:42
Evil_not sure if I should ask this here or ##c, but, where can I get the C include files (stdio etc etc) it says I don't have them01:42
Impietyjust scroll down, it explains the stuff to you01:43
Impietytell me if that works01:43
Impietythere's quite a few forums talking about that chipset01:43
Impietyand if all else fails, you can always try setting the driver to vesa01:43
Impietyand see if that works01:43
Impietybut that wouldn't support opengl01:44
tom_did u try i81001:44
Radi01libxine1-ffmpeg   and libxine1              those are the (only) ones need for music for amarok. /for visuals  libvisual-0.4-001:44
Impietysweet thanks man01:44
Radi01k01:44
Impietyi'm goign to reinstall those right now01:44
Impietyif this doesn't work, i'm just going to give up and not use amarok01:45
Radi01ok01:45
Impietythe gstreamer engine works in juk01:45
Impietyso i guess i could just use that01:45
Radi01it should work..no reason why it shouldnt01:45
Impietyi know, it's weird, it was working yesterday01:45
Impietyand then I got rid of a bunch of gnome crap01:45
Radi01interesting01:45
Impietyand all of a sudden it didn't work01:45
Radi01ah..somthing came up missing then01:46
Radi01re-install amarok 2 maybe01:46
Impietyi'm doing that01:46
Radi011rst01:46
Impietyright now01:46
Radi01im with ya buddy hope it works01:46
Impietyhopefully with fresh config files things will work01:47
gONIKHi everyone. I just connected a USB device to my computer, and I have a CD with the driver for the device. Now how can I install that driver?01:47
Impietyumm01:47
Impietyis the driver on your computer01:47
Impietyand where modules go?01:47
gONIKno on the CD-ROM01:47
gONIKthat came with my device01:48
Impietyumm01:48
Impietyit has linux drivers on it?01:48
gONIKyes01:48
Impietywhat's the device01:48
gONIKWireless adapter01:48
Impietyoh01:48
Impietyumm01:48
tom_what's the extension on the drivers01:48
Impietyis there a .deb package?01:48
gONIKtar.gz I think01:48
zibrah3edfind the*.inf file for it, then ndiswrapper -i *.inf01:49
tom_do u know how to extract it01:49
gONIKNo, I am a total newb01:49
tom_tar -xf filename.tar.gz01:49
Impietytar xzvf blah.tar.gz01:49
Impietyblah = what it's called01:49
tom_xzvf is probably better01:49
gONIKWhat is the difference between -xf and xzvf?01:50
Impietyhrm01:50
Impietydunno01:50
Impietyi just use xzvf01:50
tom_x is extract f is force01:50
Impietyz =  gz01:50
zibrah3edv = verbose01:50
tom_v is verbose i believe01:50
Impietyyeah01:50
gONIKThat is very helpful01:51
gONIKThanks01:51
Impietyamarok is a no go01:51
Impietyhaha01:51
Impietythis is fantastic01:51
Radi01bummer01:51
Impietyit makes no sense01:51
Radi01it dont01:51
tom_what's wrong with it?01:51
Impietyi twont play mp3s01:51
Impietyi installed everything necessary for it to do so01:51
Impietyand it sitll won't01:51
Impietyit's being difficult01:51
tom_u have liblame?01:52
tom_idk if thats the exact name01:52
Impietyhrm01:52
Impietyi do01:52
Radi01somthing got borked01:52
Radi01what about doing it from terminal 2 c if there are errors01:53
vzduchtom_: not entirely right.. x = extract, z = gzip compression, v = verbose, f = file (takes filename as argument)01:53
gONIKthanks01:53
gONIKok so after I extracted it01:54
tom_vzduch: yeah, sorry about that01:54
gONIKnow what01:54
Impietygo to the directory it made01:54
tom_wat files did it extract01:54
Impietyis there something that says "configure" in that dir01:54
gONIKNope01:55
gONIKthere are two .gz01:55
gONIKand the rest are shell scripts01:56
gONIKand plain text files01:56
tom_what are the names of the scripts01:56
vzduchwth are you doing anyway?01:56
gONIKwlan0up01:56
gONIKOk01:56
gONIKlet me start from the beginning01:56
gONIKI bought a wireless adapter01:56
gONIKNow I connected it to my computer01:57
gONIKI have a CD for it01:57
Impietywhat kidn of wireless adapter01:57
gONIKWith all the drivers, for Windows, Linux, Mac and so on01:57
gONIKAlfa 500mw01:57
vzduchif you're running, or planning to run, Linux, look at hardware compatibility lists beforehand01:57
gONIKI am trying to install it, so that the operating system sees it01:57
tom_he said there are linux drivers on a cd01:58
tom_try ./wlan0up01:58
vzduchI'd prefer to see a directory listing of the .tar.gz file's content01:58
vzduchinstead of wild guessing :>01:59
tom_yeah i guess that's the smart idea01:59
tom_and can u tell us the name of the device01:59
tom_Impiety: are u still there?02:00
vzduchanyway, it's late, so I'll try to get a bit of sleep :)02:02
vzduchgood night folks :)02:02
Radi01have a good one V02:04
gONIKthere is an autorun.inf file on the cd02:06
gONIKwill it help me somehow?02:06
Impietytom_: yeah, sorry, i had to go do something really quickly02:06
Impietylibmad0 is installed02:06
tom_impiety: what engine are you using02:07
Impietyxine02:07
Impietythat's the only engine that I seemlingly can install for amarok02:07
tom_goink: i think that's mostly for windows computers that automatically load the cd02:07
gONIKyea I figured02:07
gONIKwhen I type lsusb it sees my device02:08
tom_what is the name of the device02:08
gONIKAlfa 500mw02:08
Impietyweird02:08
Impietynoatun plays mp3s02:08
tom_and amarok still doesn't?02:09
Radi01weird02:09
tom_goink: http://blog.data-alliance.us/index.php?/archives/34-Alfa-500mW-USB-on-Fedora-7-Linux-Chipset-RealTek-8185.html02:09
tom_thats a page about installing it in fedora02:09
tom_it mentions install wlassistant02:10
mihai_I cannot run Firefox in Kunbutu after installing the browser. After it starts loading, the window closes automatically ?02:10
tom_and adding the line alias wlan0 rtl8187 to /etc/modprobe.conf02:11
tom_mihai_: try running it from the terminal to see the error message02:11
mihai_tom_ : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found02:11
fulat2khi folks, i'm getting dpkg errors when doing a dist-upgrade which includes kde4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46381/02:12
fulat2kany help on how i can fix it?02:12
fulat2krunning sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace doesn't work...02:12
gONIKwhen I try to install wlassistant02:13
tom_mihai: how did u install it02:13
gONIKIt says "couldn't find wlassistant"02:13
tom_goink: did you check you network settings02:14
=== mem is now known as mem2
tom_in system setting02:15
tom_settings*02:15
mem2Passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [127.0.0.1: 6880]02:15
mem2help plz02:15
mem2:P02:15
mihai_tom_ : First i tried installing it unsuccessfully by downloading the archieve and I think that messed it up.. The second time i installed it using Adept02:15
mem2checked all forum threads and nothing02:15
mem2netstat -tp doenst show az02:15
mem2java isnt running02:15
mem2fresh install02:15
tom_mihai_: try sudo apt-get remove firefox02:15
tom_then install02:16
Radi01tom02:17
tom_yes02:17
Radi01where do removed packages go to02:17
mem2hello02:18
mem2any1 have / know of this azurues issue02:18
tom_idk02:18
mem2restarted lo as 1 of the ubuntu threads suggested02:18
Radi01I think there is a trash file/I just havent found it.02:18
tom_radi01: when u say remove do you mean for apt-get or rm02:19
Radi01both02:19
tom_im basically positive rm is permanent02:19
mem2meh02:19
Radi01ok02:19
mem2guess no help on azurues02:19
tom_mem2: could you use another client02:20
mem2tom_: thats the kind of solution I expect from morons tom02:20
mem2I could use gentoo to02:20
mem2distro that works outright with mp3s etc02:21
Radi01whats with the name calling.02:21
dixon2hola a todos02:21
mem2kubuntu bugfix for azureus issue: dont use it02:22
mem2surely not02:22
tom_right but i do not know the solution to your problem02:23
mihai_tom_ : Still doesn't work after removing it and reinstalling02:23
tom_if you need to use it then using a different client would be the quickest solution02:23
dixon2not you espanit02:23
mem2tom_ thanks for pointing out the obvious02:24
mem2I appreciate you trying to help02:24
mem2but if u dont know u dont know02:24
tom_mihai: you said you installed it from source first correct02:24
mihai_tom_ : It appears as the program is loading and then it simply doesn't start and closes02:24
dixon2no hay perosnas que hablen en español02:24
mihai_tom_ : Yes, i tried but it failed because I assume I did something wrong02:24
tom_mihai: do you still have the archive02:25
dixon2not02:25
mihai_tom_ : No02:26
tom_mihai: i believe theres a way to remove all the files it made with the source02:27
mihai_however, i see there still is a folder called "firefox" in /etc/02:27
tom_mihai: after the source installation failed did you do make uninstall(possibly called something else)02:28
mihai_tom_ : No02:28
mihai_I just left it like that02:28
tom_mihai: did it install with a makefile or a script02:29
mihai_i think a makefilef02:29
tom_try downloading and extracting the source again and configure it02:30
tom_then look at the contents of the makefile and there should be a command like uninstall02:30
tom_then just do sudo make uninstall02:30
mihai_ok02:33
tom_mihai: it doesn't use a makefile but i'll look around for a way to uninstall the source02:36
mihai_good02:37
mihai_tom_ : How do I remove a folder with sudo?]02:37
tom_does it have contents02:37
mihai_i see some firefox files that are not supposed there02:37
mihai_i see some firefox files that are not supposed to bethere02:37
tom_rm -r folder02:38
tom_with sudo02:38
corinthI want to download an ISO from opensuse. Would it be faster to use the standard download, or to use bittorrent?02:38
tom_corinth: how big is the file02:39
corinthtom: 4.1 GB02:39
mihai_tom_ : I keep getting all these messages : rm: cannot remove `/etc/firefox//profile/chrome/userContent-example.css': Permission denied02:39
tom_corinth: i would think bittorrent would be faster if you have it set up properly02:40
tom_mihai: did u use sudo02:40
mihai_tom_ : I typed in rm -r /etc/firefox02:41
tom_put sudo in front of it02:41
tom_sudo rm -r /etc/firefox02:41
corinthtom_: What do I need to make sure to do to ensure it is set up properly?02:41
tom_corinth: your ports are forwarded02:41
corinthThrough my router?02:42
tom_and a firewall should not be blocking it02:42
tom_yes02:42
corinthThanks.02:42
tom_you should be able to test it with the client02:42
mihai_mihai@kubuntu:/etc/firefox$ sudo rm -r firefox/ sudo .......  cannot get working directory ....... rm: cannot remove `firefox/': No such file or directory02:42
tom_and normally there are indicators at the bottom02:42
sparHello02:42
sparI am loco lol02:43
tom_mihai: cd .. then type the command02:43
sparis there a room for video capture?02:43
tom_or u could just type sudo rm -r /etc/firefox when your not in the folder02:43
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danny500XD02:44
danny500so ya, is there a room for video capture?02:44
danny500or does anyone here know about recording tv onto the computer?02:45
tom_danny500: do you have a tv tuner card for you computer02:45
danny500yes02:45
danny500When I try to use it it tells me I need an extender02:45
tom_what card is it02:46
danny500no clue02:46
danny500um I'll check02:46
tom_mihai: the firefox website says to remove the folder /usr/lib/firefox-<version>02:47
mihai_tom_: found it, what's the command again?02:49
tom_the command to remove a folder and its contents?02:49
mihai_ok02:50
mihai_i've done it02:50
tom_wat did u remove exactly02:50
mihai_the folder /usr/lib/firefox02:50
tom_try to run firefox02:51
tom_it should say its not found02:51
tom_or unknown command*02:51
tom_command not found**02:51
mihai_tom_ : The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install firefox02:51
mihai_thats correct02:51
tom_yea02:52
tom_type what it says02:52
tom_'sudo apt-get install firefox02:52
danny500I found what it is02:52
tom_'02:52
danny500Asus/ViXS Combo-210E NTSC/ATSC TV Tuner02:52
tom_what is it02:52
tom_danny500: you want to be able to record tv with it correct?02:53
danny500yes02:53
mem2tom_: my error was caused by having the gcj version of azurues installed02:54
danny500I have Windows Vista (Ya I know BOOOOOO!!!!!) I'm on here because I'm setting up an Ubuntu 7.10 computer for my uncle because I'm just cool like that. >_>02:54
tom_danny500: i don't know then idk much about vista02:55
mihai_tom_: Now i'm still getting the same message The program 'firefox' is currently not installed even after installing it02:55
danny500has nothing to do with Vista I can figure that out myself I just need to know what the unit is called02:55
tom_mihai: try installing it with adept02:56
danny500I know there is another unit that connects to the tv tuner and you plug your tv into that I just don't know what it's called02:56
tom_danny500: do you want to hook up the cable or something like svideo or rca02:56
danny500rca02:57
tom_what inputs does the card have02:57
danny500cable-ntsc- cable atsc Audio/Visual RCA in02:58
tom_danny500: i'm not sure i understand your problem   u are unable to phisically hook up your tv to the card?03:00
danny500ya I know thats gay03:00
danny500wait nvm, I figured it out03:00
tom_does the tv have any outputs03:00
danny500this is what I needed03:00
danny500http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=547&sec=103:00
mihai_tom_: still doesnt work03:01
Evil_when I try to sudo apt-get install g++, it wants me to put in the kubuntu disk, anyway to not have to? (sorta lost it lol)03:01
tom_danny500: you know that just lets you access the media center from your tv03:01
mihai_tom_: there was still a firefox directory in /opt/ with a bunch of files03:02
mihai_even after uninstalling the program03:02
tom_mihai: typing firefox in the terminal still says its not installed03:02
mihai_yesd03:02
mihai_and i can't install/remove it either from terminal03:03
mihai_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:03
tom_thats b.c u have adept open03:03
mihai_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:03
mihai_oh03:03
tom_u need to close adept before using it03:03
mihai_lol03:03
flaccid!adeptfix03:04
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:04
mihai_mihai_ : still nothing03:07
tom_does sudo apt-get install firefox return an error03:07
mihai_no03:07
tom_it says its installing it each time you type it03:08
mihai_every time yes03:08
tom_apt-get remove says its not installed?03:09
tom_also try sudo apt-get purge firefox03:10
mihai_ok03:11
mihai_what does that do?03:11
mihai_remove it?03:11
tom_purge removes basically every trace03:11
mihai_i did03:12
mihai_let me reinstall now03:12
mihai_The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:03:12
mihai_sudo apt-get install firefox03:12
mihai_even after purge and installing again03:12
mihai_maybe i should restart03:12
tom_it may help but i dont see how it would03:13
ImpietyRadi01: hey, I figured something else about amarok03:14
Impietyit works if i use root03:15
Impietylike mp3s play only if i use sudo amarok03:15
Impietyotherwise it doesn't03:15
mihai_I might as well switch back to Ubuntu03:16
mihai_from Kubuntu03:16
mihai_i'm having a bunch of problems with it03:16
tom_how long have you had kubuntu for03:17
mihai_~15 hours03:17
Radi01what did U find ut.03:20
Impietymp3s play as root03:20
tom_he can play mp3s when hes root03:20
Impietyin amarok03:20
Impietyso, I dunno what else to do03:20
Radi01no errors03:20
Radi01?03:20
Impietynope03:20
Impietyno errors at all03:21
Impietyworks perfectly03:21
Radi012 weird03:21
Impietyyeah03:21
Impietythere's gotta be a permissions problem somewhere03:21
Impietybut i have no idea where to look03:21
Impietyi'm looking in libs03:21
Impietyerr /usr/lib03:21
Impietybut03:21
tom_see what groups your in03:21
Impietyyeah03:21
Impietyhrm03:21
Impietygood idea03:21
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Impietyumm03:28
Impietymy groups are fine03:28
Impietythis is frickin' weird03:28
Radi01sudo apt-get uninstall ./Bill Gates.03:28
Radi01j/k03:29
tom_yea lol03:29
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cjehi, I am using Kubuntu Gutsy and I would like to set the default view for tree view, as opposed to icon view.03:32
cjeHow do I do this03:32
ViperDamn... is it strange that the #ubuntu channel is so much more talkative then this one?03:32
theverantis there a way to get multiple file selection in dolphin preview mode to select files a, ..., z in a filname based line, instead of a -> z as a physical line, depending on how the view window is opened?  IE the way that Windows Explorer allows multiple selections to happen from icon or preview view modes?03:36
Radi01Most that use ubuntu downloaded it first not knowing about kubuntu.03:36
theverantit's making me crazy that it selects all the files straight down, instead of all the files between two given files03:36
theverantseems like there should be a hot key to enable that functionality... it's making me crazy03:40
Impietyoooooooohhhh03:40
ImpietyRadi01: I figured it out03:42
Impiety!!!!03:42
Radi01what was it03:42
Impietywell03:42
ImpietyI don't really know03:42
Radi01lol03:42
Impietybut instead of using amarok03:42
Impietyi found this thingy03:42
Impietyin /usr/bin03:42
Impietyit said kubuntu-media-amarok03:42
Impietyit's an executable03:42
Impietyso, I tried it03:42
Radi01ah03:42
Impietyand it worked03:42
Impietyso umm03:43
Radi01can U axcess the icon now03:43
Impietywell03:43
ImpietyI changed it03:43
Impietythe way it was in the menu03:43
Impietyso instead of amarok, i used the kubuntu-media-amarok03:43
Impietyand it works03:43
Radi01nice..did U load the libvisuals too03:43
Impietyyeah03:43
Radi01nice job it should work good03:44
ImpietyI just don't understand why that worked and the other thing didn't03:44
Radi01maybe deleting xine it saved the exe for amarok03:44
Impietyit's possible03:44
Impietyohh03:45
Impietyhaha03:45
Impietynevermind,03:45
Impietyi'm retarded that had nothing ot do with it03:45
Radi01c'mon tell me03:45
Radi01lol03:45
Impietyi updated something03:45
Impietywiht synaptic, i added a couple more repositories03:45
Radi01ah ha03:45
Impietyand it upgraded libxine03:45
Impietyso it was libxine being dumb03:46
Radi01I did mine and that didnt happen to me03:46
Impietyyeah03:46
Radi01sudo apt-get update  ?03:46
ImpietyI must have messed up something03:47
Impietysomehow03:47
theverantanyone know of a good eBay watcher for KDE kinda like JBidwatcher?03:47
Impietywell, i used synaptic03:47
Radi01ah03:47
Impietyi'm lazy03:47
mihai_i judst installed Chimera on Kubuntu but don't know how to run it ?03:47
Radi01next time use sudo03:47
Impietyeither way03:47
mihai_does any one know the command to run it?03:47
Impietywell, Radi01thanks for all of the help, i'm relieved now03:47
Radi01any time buddy anytime03:48
Radi01try ubuntu mihai..most of the tech here are sleeping03:49
ViperI've never heard of Chimera...03:49
mihai_ok03:49
ViperDid you install it via apt-get?03:50
mihai_yes03:50
mihai_it's a web browser03:50
flacciddo you have a comand chimera03:50
mihai_since i can't get firefox to work and Konqueror is horrible03:50
mihai_i tried it03:50
flaccidwhere did you d/l it from03:50
Viperhow bout find / -name "chimera"03:51
Viperthat'll look for any file named chimera on your system...03:51
flaccidor wheris chimera03:51
flaccidor which chimera03:51
flaccidbut they are unlikely to work03:51
flaccidwhereis03:51
flaccidisn't chimera like pretty old03:52
Radi01but mihai cant get firefox to work..no one knows how.03:53
flaccidwhats the problem with firefox03:53
mihai_well03:53
mihai_it won't simply not load03:53
flaccidgoto konsole03:53
mihai_i tried installing and reinstalling all over again03:53
flaccidtype firefox03:53
flaccid<enter> and then pastebin output03:53
timberwolf_Hey when is the new package for firefox 2.0.0.11 going to be available.  the current upgrade to 2.0.0.10 won't let me print pages for some odd reason.  Samething happened in Windows.03:54
mihai_The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:03:54
mihai_sudo apt-get install firefox03:54
mihai_this is what i'm getting03:54
mihai_even though it's installed03:54
Viperwhy can't you install it via apt-get mihai?03:54
* flaccid waits03:54
mihai_i can03:54
mihai_and i did already..03:54
mihai_but it won't work either03:54
flaccid!doesntwork03:55
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.03:55
ViperFF did install?03:55
mihai_yes03:55
Radi01lol03:55
Viperwhat output do you get when you type in /usr/bin/firefox in the konsole?03:55
ViperAnd are you using a 64-bit OS... I don't think my FF installed come to think of it either.....03:56
mihai_yes03:56
mihai_i'm using 6403:56
* flaccid still waits03:57
Radi01there it is..U need 32 bit03:57
Radi01ff03:57
mihai_hmmmmmmmmmmmm03:57
flaccidpaste uname -a please03:57
flaccidpaste something at least heh03:57
mihai_Linux kubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:58
flaccidand can you paste the others requested to to pastebin03:58
ViperI think I just ended up downloading the FF binary from their website using konqueror and copying it into /usr/local....03:59
Radi01Most that have 64 bit use flash they need 32 bit ff.04:00
flaccidi'll wait for more output to see the problem04:00
flaccidbut 64bit firefox works04:00
t1n0m3nso I am installing kubuntu on my laptop upgrading from 32 bit to 64 bit 7.10....  The network connection is incredibly slow.  I have tried both wireless and wired and surfing the internet is moving like molasses.  http://www.linuxquestions.org/ takes like 10 to 15 seconds to load.  I am doing the adpet upgrade and it has taken over 2 hours now...  any ideas on where to look?04:00
flaccidand this is a cool project: http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/04:00
t1n0m3nDell Precision M90 - Kubuntu 7.10/Core2Duo T7400/Intel 3945 Wireless/200G 7200rpm HD/2G 667mhz Ram/Quadro FX2500M04:01
ViperFor me, 64-bit FF works, but no add-ons work with it, that's why I ended up downloading the official version from their website.04:01
flaccid!opera04:01
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser04:01
flaccidjust use opera and be done with it if you can't paste output from firefox command..04:02
mihai_i'll just get opera..04:03
t1n0m3nifconfig doesnt show an excessive amount of errors either04:03
flaccidtest ping replies and dns lookups t1n0m3n04:03
flaccidas well as traceroute04:03
t1n0m3n29 to 31 ms to google...04:05
flaccidanyone know of a script or way to echo your current amarok mp3 title and artist in konversation ?04:05
flaccidand no packet loss04:05
flaccidor very little?04:05
t1n0m3n0 packetloss04:05
flaccidand how long are dns lookups taking04:05
flaccidfast?04:05
t1n0m3ncant traceroute yet, package not installed yet... still waiting on adept to do its thing04:06
flaccidhost google.com04:06
t1n0m3ndns lookups seem normal... i.e instant04:06
flaccidok04:06
flacciddo you know how to use wget?04:06
t1n0m3noh, hehe, yep, lemme get it04:06
flaccidtest some small and large files wget in /tmp04:07
flaccidif you see no bottleneck there04:07
flaccidthen i guess its in application layer04:07
flaccidor userspace04:07
t1n0m3nk04:07
flaccidhow many browsers you tested?04:07
t1n0m3nkonquerer04:08
Minifig!samba04:08
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:08
flaccidtry opera and firefox04:08
flaccidif you have same problem then hmm04:08
t1n0m3nThis is just now installed04:08
t1n0m3nkk04:08
flaccidalso start the browsers from konsole to see errors04:08
t1n0m3nahh, cool, that works04:08
mihai_flaccid i installed opera using sudo aptitude install opera04:10
mihai_How do I run it now?04:10
flaccidopera04:11
mihai_yes04:11
flaccidor opera & from konsole to go to background for example04:11
mihai_i tried typing opera04:12
mihai_bash: opera: command not found04:12
flaccidwhat does dpkg -l | grep -i opera return?04:13
mihai_ii  eject                                      2.1.5-2ubuntu204:13
mihai_ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Li04:13
flaccidits not installed ..04:14
flaccidare you sure they are being installed?04:14
t1n0m3ninteresting.  everything I try to download, downloads at 7.2KBps04:14
flaccidright04:15
flaccidwhat is shaping you ?04:15
mihai_flaccid: well after i typed sudo aptitude install opera looks like it got installed04:15
flaccidmihai_: pastebin the output from that command04:15
flaccid!pastebin | mihai_04:15
ubotumihai_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:15
mihai_flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46401/04:16
flaccidyou could be shaped around 64kbps04:16
MinifigCan anyone help me with getting KDE to see my Windows shared folder, please.04:17
MinifigI have samba installed.04:17
t1n0m3nit has to be this machine then, 32 bit kubuntu on the same laptop (I have multiple HDs) downloads at around 600 to 620 KBps04:17
flaccidmihai_: what does the command which opera return?04:17
t1n0m3nor 5Mbps04:17
flaccidthats weird t1n0m3n04:18
mihai_mihai@kubuntu:~$ opera04:18
mihai_bash: opera: command not found04:18
t1n0m3nI think it may be a driver issue and maybe the adept update will fix it04:18
flaccidyour packages don't seem right mihai_ 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 42 not upgraded.04:19
flaccidsome important libs in there i think04:19
mihai_why it that04:19
MinifigI get this error message: 'Could not connect to host for smb://minigroup/'04:19
mihai_ok04:19
t1n0m3nI am 96% into this 2.5 hour update, I think I will see soon04:19
Viperminifig: Are you trying to share your linux folders to win, or access your windows machine from linux?04:19
flaccidmihai_: i would recommend regenerating your sources/making sure they are right then update and upgrade to make sure your system is complete. reinstall the meta pacakges ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop04:20
flaccidsomething is not right04:20
t1n0m3nits smb:/    one slash04:20
MinifigI am trying to have Linux access Windows 98SE.04:20
flaccidpastebin sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ..04:20
ViperLOL, gl.... win98 folder sharing SUCKED!04:20
MinifigI have 98 with sharing enabled and one folder shared.04:20
Radi01haha04:20
t1n0m3nsmb:/minigroup/04:21
ViperIt was bad enough getting XP to even read those shares!04:21
mihai_flaccid : ok04:21
Minifig98<>XP is a b...  lol04:21
ViperTry the IP address instead...04:21
flaccidyou can try #samba . its not that basic and im a bit busy sorry04:21
flaccidtest with smbclient04:21
Radi01My dog ate my 98 disk..he then ran away from home.04:22
Minifiglol04:22
flaccid98 is discontinued by m$ and is a security threat04:22
Radi01I learned on 98   what a nite mare.04:23
Radi01I installed once a week04:23
flaccidhorrible stuff it was04:23
ViperEasiest way to get the 98 HDD shared to a linux box: Buy an IDE-USB adapter... plug HDD into adapter, plug adapter into Linux!04:23
t1n0m3nMinifig : what did using one slash return?  smb:/minigroup/04:23
Radi01dont use (promise)04:24
Radi01junk04:24
Minifigsmb:/minigroup/ turned into smb://minigroup/04:24
t1n0m3nahh04:24
MinifigI like 98, especially since I have an old PC.  lol04:25
MinifigI use it constantly and no problems.04:25
flaccidsmb4k is handy04:25
flaccid!info smb4k04:25
ubotusmb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB04:25
MinifigIf you want a laugh, I had 98SE running 2 weeks before I finally turned off the PC.  166Mhz 128MB PB computer.04:25
Radi01I worked it to death..04:25
t1n0m3nit stays one slash in dolphin for me04:25
ViperAt least 98 is still a better OS then Vista.....04:25
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Radi01ya04:25
flaccidyou can use dif auth settings in the config of smb4k..04:25
flaccidViper: its not04:26
MinifigFriends don't let friends use ME or Vista.04:26
Radi01lo04:26
Minifigbrb04:26
Radi01I use 2k  it inmho is pretty good04:26
Viperflaccid: 98 may not be quite as secure... but it sure is a helluva faster then vista!04:26
Viperand it may not be able to network with anything....04:27
ViperNor can you really use that ancient OS for anything more then Sol.exe... but still ^_^04:27
mihai_Has anyone tried BeOS/Zeta?04:27
flaccidspeed means nothing. 98 has no firewall.04:28
Radi01I used zone labs.04:28
Radi01had t04:28
Radi01to'04:28
MinifigI use Windows 98 with the POwer Pack and Revolutions installed.04:28
Ahmuck 6613 ?        S      0:06 d3lphin -icon d3lphin -miniicon d3lphin -caption Dolphin system:/media04:28
Ahmuckdoes that look right?04:28
ViperYeah, I'd prefer ZA or Linux over M$'s firewall anytime.04:28
Ahmuckd#lphin ?04:28
Radi01dolphin04:29
Ahmuckyes, but look at the process.  it says d#lphin04:29
Ahmucker, d3lphin04:29
EightiesKhey is EDUbuntu kde or gnome?04:29
Radi01thats the old name04:29
Ahmuckah, ok04:29
adamonline46Can anyone help me get to this channel using kopete?  I seem to be lame... 8)04:30
kub^hi have a noob question with amarok, when i install a new style it just stays the same, do i need to restart x or something?04:30
MinifigLoad kopete and add IRC04:31
MinifigChoose Freenode04:31
underdog44can somebody here help me with an stunnel4 probelm?04:31
Minifigthen join channel #kubuntu04:31
ViperThe themes are buggy in amarok... You may need to reboot...04:31
Viperminifig, we're in kubuntu...04:31
MinifigI am using Kopete right now as my main messenger.04:31
Dr_williskub^,  perhaps restart amarok.04:32
MinifigViper someone asked how to get here in Kopete.04:32
kub^tried restarting amarok i'll give restarting x a go or rebooting pc, thanks :)04:32
Minifig Can anyone help me get to this channel using kopete?  I seem to be lame...04:32
flaccidMinifig: use /join #kubuntu04:33
MinifigThat was from adamonline4604:33
Dr_willisMinifig,  you mean to say you cant figre out how to use kopete?04:33
MinifigNo, I was answering the message from adamonline4604:33
ViperOh, not paying attention.... right right04:33
Dr_willisheh04:33
* Dr_willis goes back to sleep/04:33
Dr_willis:)04:33
MinifigI adore Kopete.04:33
Dr_willisill stick with xchat for now04:33
MinifigI am actually adoring Linux also.  lol04:33
ViperKopete is cool, until you connect to Y! on another machine with kopete still connected....04:33
Radi01I like my paper cup.04:34
MinifigI used to badmouth and really put down Linux.04:34
MinifigNot anymore.  lol04:34
Viperheh04:34
ViperOnce you pop.......04:34
Minifiglol04:34
MinifigI have 2 versions installed, if you wanna call it that.04:34
adamonline46Minifig: It works now!  :O04:34
Radi01me 2 both04:34
MinifigKubuntu Linux and LInux Mint KDE04:34
MinifigWonderful adamonline4604:35
adamonline46Minifig: ty04:35
MinifigGlad to help.04:35
Radi01I tried mandrake..what a disaster04:35
MinifigI tried Mandriva, but not Mandrake.04:35
Radi01same04:35
MinifigOh.  lol04:35
Radi01it lasted 3 installs and went to the recycle box out back04:36
MinifigWhen it comes to using Linux, it helps of you're not a gamer, or not a BIG gamer.  lol04:37
Dr_willisMinifig,  You do realize that under Linux Mint - you can just install 'kubuntu-desktop'  :)04:37
flaccidi have to change vid drivers to play games like et04:37
Ahmuckso what's different about linux mint?04:37
Radi01mihai is really having a hard time..poor kid.04:37
Dr_willisAhmuck,  codecs and a few toher things installed by default.04:37
MinifigIts quite interesting.  Seems to come with alot more installed than normal.04:38
Dr_willisAhmuck,  and a few config tools.04:38
jetsaredimanyone know of a way to stack multiple xvid video files into a single dvd?04:38
t1n0m3nok this is getting weird, I can do a samba transfer at 8.5 MBps04:38
MinifigCompiz, java, and other hard to install stuff.04:38
MinifigI still cannot get samba to work.04:38
Ahmuckjessaredim, as in so you can watch in multiples?04:38
Ahmucker, sequence04:39
MinifigI think it does work in Kubuntu, but not sure how it was done.04:39
flaccidbbl04:39
AhmuckMinifig: smb04:39
Minifigsmb is installed.04:39
Dr_willisMinifig,  most of that stuff can be installed rather trivially under Gutsy Now. :)04:39
t1n0m3nflaccid; you think this could be some ipv6 issues?04:39
Dr_willisYou installed the 'samba' package?04:39
MinifigYes04:39
MinifigCould not connect to host for smb://minigroup/04:40
Dr_willisdid you edit the samba config? to enable some shares?04:40
MinifigNo.04:40
Dr_willisdid you givbe the user a samba password?04:40
Dr_willisThere ya go.. :)04:40
MinifigI am still new to this Linux treasure.  lol04:40
Vipersmb://user@minigroup/04:40
MinifigNeed to make notes.04:40
Viperor smb://user:password@minigroup/04:40
ViperBut does that work on win98?.....04:40
Dr_willisinstall the samba-doc package and read the 'using samba book' thats in the package.04:40
Dr_willissmb:// is kde's method of giveing samba type ur;s04:41
Dr_willisurls04:41
MinifigWill do.  I think I did tell it to install the doc.04:41
Dr_willisthe default workgroup will also need 5to be set right.04:41
adamonline45Minifig: Any idea how to get rid of the 'topic' being mashed over all the chat text?04:41
MinifigNo.04:42
MinifigSorry.04:42
MinifigWhere do I find the samba config file?04:42
adamonline45Minifig: That's ok...04:42
adamonline45/etc/samba/smb.conf04:42
Ahmucki have a zip drive i added to my pc.  does kubuntu have some type of autodetect?04:43
Ahmuckah, nm, i recall that i have ide2 switched off in the bios04:43
MinifigThank you.  On the way.04:43
Agent_bobanyone know a way to make blind bios switch to agp card from pci card which i don't have ?04:43
Vipereh?  blind BIOS?  are you just trying to activate an AGP card when you also have an on-board GPU?04:44
Agent_bobViper no onboard04:45
Radi01trying to get compriz to work with onboard chip?..lol04:45
ViperI think I'm lost here... but the bios should switch GPU's automatically.....  if that's what you mean...04:45
Dr_willisViper,  yea.. any decent bios Should.. :)04:46
Agent_bobRadi01 no. trying to get vidio   the bios reset to pci   i dont have a pci vidio card to plug in the thing04:46
Radi01here is compriz with on board chip04:46
Radi01 ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ04:46
Radi01lol04:46
Radi01ok04:46
adamonline45ha04:46
Agent_bobViper one would think so.   but this one is old04:46
ViperLOL, that's awesome...04:47
ViperBob: Reset the BIOS with the jumper?...  That may work....04:47
Radi01i pulled that in #ubuntu/ they didnt like it/ lol04:48
Agent_bobthe ati agp card isn't tripping the switch to make it use it  and i can't get past bios to boot the thing headless       so  "blind bios"04:48
Radi01no bios?04:49
Agent_bobViper i fear that the default is pci rather than agp   and that's how i got blinded04:49
Agent_bobRadi01 please keep up.04:49
Radi01ah ok04:50
ViperHmm.... that's a good one...04:50
Agent_bobheh  i don't "cry wolf"   lol04:50
ViperIs there a GoodWill computer store nearby, or a used computer shop...04:50
Agent_bobViper there is "nothing" nearby.04:50
ViperThat's what I'd try.... just buy a cheapy $5 card.04:50
Agent_bobsand04:50
Radi01there is a hewlet packard used dept close by04:51
Agent_bobplenty of sand04:51
Agent_bobheh how did you know where i was lol04:51
ViperWell, I wouldn't suggest trying that to get PCI to work... silicate may not be friendly to mobo's....04:51
ViperDallas....04:52
Radi01I still have a paqard bell around some where04:52
Agent_bobViper one one think.04:52
ViperOh, you're on the level3 network, cool...04:52
ConfusedCan someone please, please help me?04:53
ViperNot if you don't tell us your problem....04:53
ConfusedHeheh.04:53
ConfusedI just switched to Kubuntu from Winxp.04:53
Agent_bobRadi01 brand on the tower is "zeos-486"  heh  but it's had plenty of transplants and face lifts maybe a tummy tuck04:53
ViperGrats on the upgrade ^_^04:53
ConfusedI feel as if I had been dropped in the middle of China...04:53
Radi01a whole 12 mhz?04:54
ViperThat's the general feeling for the first month of so.04:54
Agent_boboh don't be silly 486's reached 66mhz without over clocking04:54
yurimxpxmanwhat's the best browser ID setting to view gmail in konqueror?04:54
ConfusedI went out a bought a Wireless USB Adapter.04:54
Radi01ya I forgot 66 mhz04:55
ViperYeah bob, I'd try to find a PCI card laying around somewhere, or borrow it from a friend, etc... that's probably your only choice.04:55
Viperconfused: and you can't get wifi working?04:55
ConfusedI tried to install the drivers but Kubuntu doesnt like exe files.04:55
t1n0m3nwell, I am re-installing kubuntu right now and I see the same exact problem, 7.2 KBps to the internet, I guess I will load the 7.10 32 bit install and chalk this up to a bug04:55
ConfusedI'm not sure if it works with Linux.04:55
ViperWhat's the model of the device?04:55
Radi01good luck t04:56
Agent_bobViper looking that way.   unless i can find a way to make bios attempt a boot with out recognizing any vidio     that's what i was hopping for.04:56
ConfusedD-Link WDA-13004:56
ViperWell, first thing..... erm... what's the package manager called in KDE?....04:56
ConfusedDWA***04:56
Confusedeh....04:56
Confused^.^?04:56
t1n0m3nViper: adept04:56
ViperThank you!04:56
* Viper is running Gnome presently.... 04:57
ViperOpen up adept and look for a program called ndiswrapper04:57
ConfusedAdept?04:57
ConfusedOh.04:57
ViperThere should be a search option somewhere....04:57
Radi01@ the top04:57
ConfusedI had to transfer that to my computer.04:57
adamonline45Does anyone here have a core2duo macbook, and perchance be willing to help me out with a couple things?04:57
Agent_bobRadi01 i said the brand on the tower,  the mainboard has been changed ya know.  k6 cpu  still old but  not 486 class04:57
ConfusedAnd it just gave me a bunch of text documents :(04:57
t1n0m3nkmenu > System > Adept Manager04:57
Radi01ya 500 mhz?04:58
Agent_bob604:58
Radi01ah04:58
Confusedone sec04:58
yurimxpxmanwhat's the best browser ID setting to view gmail in konqueror?04:58
Confusedgotta run to the other comp04:58
Agent_bobie-6 yurimxpxman ?04:59
ConfusedIt asked me for a password?04:59
Viperadept did, then enter your password....05:00
yurimxpxmanAgent_bob: haha.. it says it requires activex05:00
ViperLOL05:00
ConfusedWhat password..o_O?05:00
Viperyour user password05:00
Confusedaah05:00
Confusedk05:00
yurimxpxmanAgent_bob: looks like only the old version of gmail will work with konqueror (must be set to FF 1.5*)05:00
ViperAnytime you open an application that is an administrative-type program, you need to type in your password.05:01
ViperIt's a security feature on Linux, much like the "Are you sure you meant to click on this file", "Are you sure you wanted to click yes on the previous confirmation?" thing on Vista....05:01
Agent_bobyurimxpxman i didn't know.   now i do.05:01
ConfusedYay, it opened.05:02
yurimxpxmankonqueror makes me login to everything every time I open it.. is there any way to make it keep those cookies?05:02
ConfusedNow what?05:02
Viperin the search bar, type in     ndiswrapper05:02
Confusedk05:02
Viperyou should see ndisgtk, ndi... common, and utils.05:02
ViperRight-click -> Request Install.05:02
ViperIt may say that it needs some packages, or dependencies.. go ahead and confirm them.05:03
Agent_bobhey hey hey,  i got it to boot the linux cd   but there still hasn't been any activity on the monitor...    does linux have to have bios to access vidio ???05:03
ConfusedNothing showed up.05:03
t1n0m3nyurimxpxman: Make sure tools > HTML settings > Cookies is checked05:03
yurimxpxmant1n0m3n: yeah, it is.. and I don't have the "treat all cookies as session cookies" checked, either..05:04
Radi01I think so bob..i once forgot to have my bat in and it kept looking and would not boot05:04
adamonline45Agent_bob: No, I use efi...05:04
ViperSomewhere he has to enable 'universe' repository...05:04
ConfusedI downloaded ndiswrapper and put the folder to the desktop, but it just gave me a bunch of coding in text documents...05:04
Agent_bobefi ?   electronic fuel injection ?05:04
Vipertin || radio, remember where that is in KDE's Adept?05:04
adamonline45hehheh... no, it's intels new 'bios', used on macbooks05:05
Radi01oh no05:05
ViperConfused: If you can help it, don't download source like that... it's not healthy for your sanity ^_^05:05
adamonline45no me likes it ho05:05
adamonline45er, tho*05:05
ConfusedBut someplace online said I was suppose to get ndiswrapper...05:05
ViperThere's a better way to get it...05:05
Radi01sudo apt-get uninstall ./bill gates05:05
ViperI'm trying to find where the option is...05:06
ConfusedOkay...05:06
Confusedheheh05:06
Agent_boblol05:06
t1n0m3nadept > manage repositories05:06
Agent_bobsudo dpkg -P bill-gates05:06
t1n0m3ncheck the "community maintained" checkbox05:06
Agent_bobooops forgot     --force-all ^05:07
t1n0m3nactually I just check them all05:07
hydrogenbill gates is community maintained?05:07
Radi01ya lol05:07
ViperLOL05:07
t1n0m3nsorry that was for viper05:07
Confused:-\...05:07
adamonline45-purge?05:08
ViperIn the menu Adept, there's an option Manage Reps..  does it do anything for ya?05:08
ConfusedI've been searching google for 3 hours on how to use Linux...05:08
ConfusedUhm...05:08
Confusedlet me check05:08
t1n0m3nit is on the menu along the top, confused, inside of adept05:09
ConfusedIt brought up a list of words that all seem to be faded.05:09
ViperG.D. people on comcast trying to poke at my ports 1026/1027.. stop it, I'm not running winblows already!05:09
ConfusedAt the bottom says "New Resp"05:09
Radi01lol05:09
* Agent_bob needs lessons on how to use a computer... actually no. he doesn't need a teacher, he likes being a self made moron.05:09
Radi01Thats why I use adsl05:10
Radi01screw scamcast05:10
ViperThose idiots are fine.. they're safely behind my firewall.  It's just bothersome.05:10
Radi01me 205:11
ConfusedTo install drivers for my Wireless USB Device I need to use the inf files?05:11
t1n0m3ndisable gatuitus pings and you will see hack attempts go down by about 90% over a month or two05:11
Viperyeah05:11
t1n0m3nlol05:11
t1n0m3n*gratuitus* that is05:11
ViperYou need an INF file and the SYS file, probably named similiarly.05:11
Radi01in firefox?05:11
Confusedyeah05:11
Radi01firestarter05:11
ConfusedI found both of those files... But how?05:11
Viper^_^05:11
ViperSomewhere on that page Adept -> Manage reps., there's an option to enable community, or universe.. something like that05:12
Confusedthen what?05:12
t1n0m3nViper: it is "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)05:13
Agent_bob!repos | Viper this what you want ?05:13
ubotuViper this what you want ?: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:13
Vipersave changes (if any button), and go back to search.... look for ndiswrapper05:13
ViperYeah, I'm running gnome, and adept's acting up... so I'm trying to walk him through blindly.. lol05:13
t1n0m3nit will pop up a reload dialog box too05:13
Agent_bobare we all playing "blind man's bluff" today ?05:14
ViperEvidently so....05:14
t1n0m3nI am running off of the live cd, lol05:14
Confusedheheh thanks alot...05:14
Confusedbut..ehmm..05:14
ConfusedDo I hit the reset button...?05:15
Viperyeah05:15
Vipersure...05:15
Radi01on that k605:15
Viperwhy not?05:15
Confusedk....05:15
Viperlol05:15
t1n0m3nConfused: reload right?05:15
ViperThe reset || reload wtf the is... should get the new list of files you can download.05:15
t1n0m3nyep05:15
ViperThen the prized ndiswrapper should be downloadable.05:16
* Viper whispers to tinomen, 'after this we can tell him about Wine ^_^'05:16
Agent_bobwell looks like that box just became spair parts.   not a pci vidio card within miles of here.05:16
Viperbob, send me your add and $4 for shipping, I'll send ya one ^_^  I've got PCI's o'plenty.05:17
ConfusedI'm not on the internet with that computer....05:17
Agent_bobi'd send you my address.  but then i'd have to kill you...05:17
Radi01lol05:17
t1n0m3nViper: actually the "W" in 7.10 is tons better than it was in 7.0405:17
Agent_boband we dont want that.05:18
ConfusedMy delimma is that I need to find a way that will allow me to install the INF files for the drivers so that my wireless usb will work.05:18
ViperYeah, I know!  I tried 7.10 on another laptop, quite nice!05:19
ConfusedI hit the manage resp button and it didn't do anything but give me these weird faded links.05:19
t1n0m3nOK, install is done, brb with installed 64 bit kubuntu goodness05:19
ViperNDISwrapper allows you to install M$ INF files for wireless devices on linux.05:19
Confusedoh05:20
ConfusedHeheh05:20
ConfusedThen how do I get ndiswrapper?05:20
Confused:-D05:20
ViperNothing comes up when you go back to the main screen?...05:20
ConfusedIn Adept?05:20
Viperyeah05:20
ConfusedUnless I searched in the wrong search bar...05:20
Viperoh wait, does the machine your installing ndiswrapper have internet now?05:21
ConfusedNope05:21
NickPrestaLOL05:21
Viperah, tiss be your problem05:21
Confused:(05:21
ViperI just caught you saying that above....05:21
NickPrestaConfused, if you don't have internet, you can't install packages from the Repos05:21
Radi01oi05:21
ConfusedBut I need to install the inf to get the internet...05:21
ConfusedI seem to be in a paradox..05:21
Vipercan't you plug a cable into it?05:21
NickPrestaConfused, if you like, you can download the deb package and transfer it via USB or floppy/CD and install it locally05:21
ConfusedThat sounds a lot easier.05:22
NickPrestaConfused, give me a minute to get you the Gutsy deb05:22
ConfusedWould you be able to provide me with a juicy link?05:22
Radi01do U have pay pal05:22
ViperAMD 64 or i386?05:22
NickPrestaConfused, I'm downloading it as we speak05:23
Confusedwhats gutsy deb?05:23
Viperit's ubuntu 7.1005:23
Viperthe fancy name for it....05:23
ConfusedI have a 1gb usb, will that work?05:24
ViperWell, Gutsy is the name, a deb is an installation file, much like M$'s MSI file or EXE installer.05:24
ViperYeah, ndis is about 3Mb.05:24
Vipercorrection, 500k05:24
tamgostupid questions: in kde 4, how do I switch virtual desktops? How do I move plasma icons?05:24
ConfusedEr...05:24
ConfusedWait, what am I installing?05:24
ConfusedUBuntu or ndis?05:24
ViperThe other machine you are trying to get wifi running on is running Ubuntu, right?05:25
Viperer, Kubuntu, same diff....05:25
NickPrestaConfused, ndiswrapper-common (http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ndiswrapper-common) ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9). Click on the "architecture" link to donwload the package05:25
t1n0m3ntamgo: Ctrl+F1 ... F2 ... etc05:25
ConfusedViper: Yes.05:25
t1n0m3nConfused: Could you refresh my memory and tell me what WiFi chipset you are using?05:26
ViperD-Link DWA-13005:27
ConfusedProbably one that isn't supported by linux.05:27
Confusedheheh05:27
ConfusedYeah.05:27
t1n0m3nkk thx05:27
ViperWith ndiswrapper, it should work....05:27
ConfusedUhm..05:27
ConfusedWhich one am I downloading?05:27
Viperboth05:27
t1n0m3nbreaking out some google goodness so I can learn while viper is helping05:27
NickPrestaConfused, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-f23c29cc02764d709130d736be45147457c69eab Follow those instructions after you install ndiswrapper and have your windows inf file05:27
NickPrestaConfused, you download both the common and utils file.05:28
Confusedk05:28
ViperI was trying to find the gtk package also...05:29
ConfusedDo I have to dl all of those files?05:29
ConfusedI clicked the first one, and it gave me like 10 more links.05:29
Confusedlol05:29
ConfusedI clicked the list of files...05:29
Confusedvm05:29
Confusednvm05:29
NickPrestaConfused, you click on your Architecture link (i386, or All, if there is no difference) Then it should give you a list of mirrors05:30
Agent_bob    well. i guess some days you eat the bear, and some days the bear eats you...     i guess today i'm Ursus repast   ;/05:30
ConfusedSorry.05:32
ConfusedWron botton...05:32
Agent_boboh by the way.   does anyone know a way "without doing a full e2fsck"  to set the state bit to "clean" ?05:32
Viperdo the full scan and go to sleep......05:33
Agent_bobdoesn't fit within specified parameters ^05:33
Radi01What do U want cleaned05:34
Agent_bobext2 fs05:34
ViperHAH!  finally found that damn ndisgtk....05:34
ConfusedYay05:35
Agent_bobit's not dirty, just marked as such.05:35
ViperThis util will help you also, this way you won't need to mess with the command line.05:35
ConfusedPutting the files on my usb05:35
Radi01kleansweeper?05:35
Confused<305:35
ConfusedSo... Why is linux better than windows?05:35
Viperhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb for x84_6405:35
Viperhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb if it's 32-bit05:35
Agent_bobRadi01 heh no.05:35
ConfusedI want to download those aswell?05:36
ViperYeah05:36
ViperOne or the other...05:36
ViperIf you have a 64-bit instll, then chose that, if you have a regular, chose the 32.05:36
Agent_bobConfused    EULA?    price?      doesn't get virii?        support community?05:36
ViperOr if you have a 64-bit in still....... erm05:36
Agent_bobbusiness practices ?05:36
ConfusedBob... That went in one ear and out the other...05:37
ViperM$ newest OS: $400, Linux newest: $0.0005:37
Confusedohh05:37
Radi01yay05:37
ConfusedHehehe.05:37
ViperM$ releases: 6-years apart: linux: 6-months max05:37
ViperM$: Phone support over in India.....05:37
Radi01M$ spayware linux not05:37
ViperLinux: us ^_^05:37
Agent_bobConfused and did i mention,  that you own your linux os, it's yours.   and you rent the right to use in the way they dictate their os05:38
hydrogenstaying on topic?: priceless05:38
ViperIt's on topic... See linux in the discussion?05:38
Agent_bobhydrogen he asked.  i'm on topic this time.05:38
Agent_bob:)05:38
NickPrestaViper, this is the Kubuntu support channel. General chatter in #kubuntu-offtopic05:38
hydrogenViper: I see ms in the discussion as well as linux05:38
jalbertLinux doesn't get viruses, doesn't need to be rebooted after sofware installation, doesn't need to be defragmented, can read any filesystems of other OSs...05:39
hydrogenat that point its no longer about support05:39
jalbertruns faster05:39
jalberttakes up less space05:39
jalberthas less bullsh*t in general05:39
Agent_bobmore powerfull05:39
hydrogenless polished05:39
jalbertyou can actually have control over your machine05:39
ConfusedWill I still be able to Run Age of Empires, and various video games?05:40
Viperpossibly with Wine05:40
t1n0m3nlol spayware05:40
hydrogen!appdb05:40
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org05:40
jalbertsure05:40
Agent_bobhydrogen there aren't very many of us that actually count that as a plus tho05:40
jalbertWine, WMware05:40
jalbert*VMware*05:40
hydrogenrunning games in vmware is a lot like pulling ones teeth out through ones cornea05:40
* Viper agrees05:41
Agent_bobouch05:41
Viperyour better off with wine.05:41
jalbertyeah05:41
Agent_bobone must needs ask, "why remove the teeth?"05:41
jalbertVMware does have a lot more overhead05:41
t1n0m3nI run WoW under wine and it works great05:41
=== Confused is now known as Trillis
Radi01ram killer05:41
jalbertyeah most Adobe aps do too05:42
ViperConfused || Trillis, get those files alirght?05:42
jalbertso does HalfLife 205:42
Trillisyeah05:42
TrillisSorry.05:42
TrillisI've been reading this conversation and entertaining company.05:42
t1n0m3nyou've been reading this converstion to your company?05:43
t1n0m3nj/k05:43
TrillisHeheh, no.05:43
TrillisI've been being talked at by my company.05:43
Viperah, well, when you get ready to install them on your machine that needs ndis, either double-click (or single-click in KDE), or in the konsole terminal: sudo dpkg -i ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu...deb ndiswraper-common-version.dep ndiswrapper-other-file......deb05:44
TrillisWhilst reading your conversations and gigling inside.05:44
t1n0m3nkk, was wondering about the nerdiness of your company05:44
Radi01talking and typing is rude..lol05:44
Agent_boblinux has traditionally been more for the "hacker" "cracker" "programmer" and "geek"  than for the "point and click, never read the message, just click yes"   type crouds   if you fit any of those you'll love it.05:44
TrillisI've been more the point and click...05:44
t1n0m3nmy company, that would be normal... but you never know05:45
ViperI think we could have guessed.... ^_^05:45
Radi01point and hack05:45
TrillisTranserfering the files now.05:45
TrillisViper I still have to dl the oens you gave me.05:45
Viper"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon flying down the interstate loaded with data tapes"05:45
t1n0m3nlol05:45
Viper**or now-a-days:  flying down loaded with USB-keys....05:46
Radi01my modem is solar powered.05:46
TrillisOkay05:46
TrillisI have three files I need to transfer?05:46
TrillisThe two bob gave me and one of the two Viper gave me, correct?05:47
ViperOMFG.. I need to do an IP-physical address reverse lookup and slap these damn win users who keep trying to access those ports....05:47
ViperYeah05:47
Trillisk05:47
Radi01prolly queers05:47
t1n0m3narin.net?05:47
ViperNo, they're neighbors judging by the IP's.... they're the same subnet as me...05:47
Trillisokay05:48
Trilliswhen I extract them to the comp wth linux, then what?05:48
TrillisShould I put them any where specific?05:48
t1n0m3nlol, my video card is saying it needs to resart the comp... weird  I could probably get away with an X restart...  oh well brb05:48
TrillisOr just drag them on to my desktop?05:48
Viperdesktop05:48
Trillisk05:48
Viperclick // dbl click on them...05:48
Trillisnbrb05:48
Agent_bobheh is that  // right dbl click     or  \\ left dbl click    ?   :)05:49
jalberthey can anyone recommend a good irc fileserver?05:50
Vipererm... ftpd?....05:50
Radi01what uses those ports05:50
Agent_bobwhich ports ?05:50
Radi01the ones that are being banged @ vipers place05:51
ViperWhat?  The ones that these dips keep poking?... it's some micro, erm... other OS.. **looks at H**, program.05:51
Radi01ah05:51
Trilliser...05:51
Viper1026 and 102705:51
Trillis"Utility is not in the path" or some kind of error when I click on them...05:51
ViperI forgot exactly what they do, but a quick online google will retrieve what they do.05:52
ViperOk, then try this:  Open terminal or Konsole (both same)05:52
TrillisIs this when I go to Adept?05:52
ViperIt's in the menu under system or utilities I think...05:52
TrillisGuess not.05:52
Vipertype    cd Desktop05:52
Viperfollowed by    sudo dpkg -i ndis*.deb05:53
Viper**and enter your password when it requests is**05:53
Agent_bobViper grep in /etc/services   nothing is defaulted there05:53
Radi01callander axcess porst05:53
TrillisSo I go to the Konsole05:53
Trillistype in05:53
ViperIt's access radio?  wtf....05:54
Trillissudo dpkg -i ndis* .deb05:54
Radi01i"m not as think as you drunk i am.05:54
ViperYou forgot      cd Desktop05:54
Trillisdamn05:54
=== taras is now known as bulba
t1n0m3nbefore I get deep into the google, can anyone tell me the best way to disable ipv6?05:54
Agent_bobRadi01 sober not me some more ?05:54
Trilliscd Desktop then sudo dpkg -i ndis* .deb?05:54
Viperyup05:54
Radi01hiccup05:54
Trillisk05:55
Trillisbrb05:55
ViperI think that'll work.... lol05:55
stdint1n0m3n: put "blacklist ipv6" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist05:55
t1n0m3nstdin: thx!05:56
ViperIf nothing else, it's good excersize for him....05:56
Trillisk05:57
TrillisIt filled the konsole up with errors.05:57
Trillis:-D05:57
ViperAhhh, port 1026UDP is that annoying messenger thing....05:57
Radi01it said allot of spam on that one 205:58
Agent_bobthe errors are actually encoded clues that linux geeks use to send messages about what really happened to your program.05:58
ViperHmm..05:58
ViperI still think that you should just plug a cable into the box and download the packages that way....05:58
TrillisSomething about dependance issues...05:58
ViperGAH, we forgot about them...05:59
Trilliswhat exactly does the sudo command do?05:59
TrillisWhat?05:59
Agent_bob4205:59
Vipersudo allows you to run an application as the 'root' user.05:59
ViperOr it does 42 according to bob...05:59
Radi01lol06:00
Radi01ya 1006:00
TrillisI thought 42 was the answer to everything?06:00
Trillis:(06:00
Agent_bobTrillis   man <any_command_you_want_to_read_about>06:00
hydrogenand hope that it ships with a man page06:00
hydrogenor use the awesome man kioslave06:00
INIT_6to make kde4 run right do you have to have kde4libs?06:00
Agent_bobhydrogen ubuntu does06:00
jalbert42 is the answer to Life, The Universe and Everything06:00
Radi01when in terminal hit tab 2wice it gives a list06:00
hydrogenand view it at man:/command in konqueror06:00
t1n0m3n!4206:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:00
t1n0m3nlol06:00
hydrogenAgent_bob: right, but all commands availible in ubuntu do not06:00
TrillisEr... Now what am I doing?06:01
stdinINIT_6: yeah, every kde(4) app needs kde(4)libs06:01
t1n0m3nerr...hmm06:01
TrillisAfter the konsole got errors06:02
Viperwell, dependencies are how Linux controls cross-application ... troublefreeness....06:02
ViperIt's late, that's the best terminology I can think of...06:02
Trillisah.06:02
Radi01east coast?06:02
TrillisWhat should I do now?06:02
ViperBut, we can rattle off all the deps that those apps need and you can download them, then try to install all at the same time using the dpkg command....06:02
Agent_bobhydrogen only ones that i know of that don't are bash builtin's and gui crap.    the built-ins     help <blah>   works.      ummmm or there might be a few scripts that ubuntu adds that don't have a manpage    idk about that.  i just  less `which script` on those.06:02
ViperOr just plug a damn cable intot he machine and run the online updater, which will install all of the deps without you hassling over it.06:03
isa268[FAN]get a cable and hook it up directly to the net.  IMO06:03
Trilliswould the command just be dpkg -i ndis* .deb?06:03
INIT_6When i try to install kde4libs and kde4libs-data it breaks. and tried it in command line also.06:03
Viperradio: Yeah, I'm a few timezones east of ya.06:03
TrillisThe computer is upstairs.06:03
INIT_6whines about a broken pipe06:03
Radi01im in the same place06:03
TrillisAnd I don't have a long enough ethernet cord to reach.06:03
stdinINIT_6: just install "kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"06:03
Agent_bobTrillis yes.     sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package-name.deb06:03
ViperUnplug all the cords, and drag the tower downstaris!06:04
ViperAs long as you don't trip over the down stars..... erm....06:04
Radi01lol06:04
Agent_boband it will error out with the missing dependancies   and you can install them the same way06:04
Viperdon't you mean, it won't error out...06:05
Agent_bobno. i mean it will.06:05
Agent_bobbut we'll see.06:05
ViperWEll, it'll just display a notice to intall them too...06:05
Agent_bobyeah and fail to configure the package06:05
Agent_boband thus have to retry to configure it each time dpkg runs06:06
Trilliso_O06:07
Trillisokay06:07
Agent_bobor one might say it will "half install a broken package"   that when you install the last of the deps will become "installed and not broken"06:07
TrillisI'm going to drag it downstairs.06:07
Viperndisgtk requires python >= 2.5, but < 3, ndiswrapper-util, python-gtk, and python-glade2.....06:07
TrillisI'll be ack.06:07
ViperSee why manually installing software is a pain trillis?06:08
Agent_bobtoo late06:08
ViperI guess he didn't..06:08
ViperOh well, he's draggin the machine down anyways.06:08
jalberthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZN1puUwH0c06:09
Vipererm, a random utube vide.. do we even want to?..06:09
ViperOk, that works06:09
Agent_bobshort answer,  no06:10
t1n0m3npasting it to my other machine to watch, this one still cant D/L fast enough to watch it06:10
Viperdon't06:10
Viperit's worthless06:10
Agent_bobi still don't know why the bot doesn't auto ban if youtube.com/  is in the url ...06:11
stdinbecause ubotu can't ban anyone06:12
Viperit can't?....06:12
stdinnope06:12
Agent_bobnot the only bot in the channel06:13
maduserwhats the banning bot?06:13
stdinit's the only "active" bot (or it should be)06:13
t1n0m3nok, I should have listened to viper06:13
ViperLOL06:13
Agent_bobi agree you don't want bot wars06:13
ViperWhy not, that could be fun ^_^06:14
maduserhave you ever seen a bot war?06:14
Agent_bob*!ubotu tell 'otherbot' about help06:14
t1n0m3nis that where you get 2 bots to respond to each other?06:14
Agent_bobor kick eachother if they are oped06:15
t1n0m3nlol06:15
maduseronce on another irc channel i got the banning bot to ban the info bot06:15
josephthat's always fun06:15
Radi01We used to get that to happen in icq  was way funny06:16
Agent_bobwhy ?     you disrupt the normal chatter for that ?06:16
Agent_bob</shrugs>06:16
Viperwow.... an IRC infi-loop situation... like the autoaway message being bounced continuesly....06:16
Agent_bobsome people get their jollies in the strangest ways.06:16
stdinoff-topic chat should be in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)06:16
maduserok06:16
Agent_bobunless you are talking to stdin :)06:17
ViperYeah we know, just making idle chat since no one is requesting help ATM.06:17
madusertrue06:18
stdinViper: yeah, but we have a whole (dead) channel for that :)06:18
t1n0m3nok, I need help06:18
maduserwhats the problem?06:18
t1n0m3nI am having issues installing bonzi buddy06:18
Agent_bobt1n0m3n 4206:18
t1n0m3nlol06:18
maduseryou don't need to ask to ask for jelp06:18
stdinjelp?06:18
stdin:p06:18
Agent_bobyelp06:18
t1n0m3nok, I just always wanted to say that06:18
madusersay waht?06:19
t1n0m3nask for help installing bonzi buddy on a linux irc channel06:19
Radi01hahaha06:19
NickPrestaOut of curiosity, I came across 'hot-babe' when looking at medibuntu a couple days ago. I decided to check it out, purely out of curiosity, and it locked up X so bad I had to restart my machine. Anyone else with the same prolem?06:19
NickPrestas/prolem/problem06:19
maduserhot babe?06:20
NickPrestahttp://dindinx.net/hotbabe/ Might be NSFW but has no nudity06:20
Agent_bobsurely just out of curiosity.  nothing more.06:20
NickPrestaheh. Male curiosity :P06:20
Radi01honest06:20
Agent_bob:)06:20
maduseryeah that what i need06:21
* Agent_bob sheepishly admits to peeking at a magizine cover one time.06:21
maduserjust the cover?06:21
Agent_bobonly once.   and i didn't inhale06:21
Agent_bob:)06:21
t1n0m3nAgent_bob: You missed out06:22
maduseryeah06:22
t1n0m3nYou should always inhale06:22
NickPrestaheh. Well, I'm `cd`ing to /dreamland looking for `more dreams`. Goodnight all.06:22
stdinoff-topic chat should be in #kubuntu-offtopic (and this is definitely off-topic chat)06:22
hydrogenany plans for kubuntu to redo the sound scheme to be as soothing as microsofts? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/26118606:22
Radi01chowv nick06:22
Agent_bobNickPresta shalom06:22
t1n0m3nI usually turn off all sounds in every OS I use06:23
Radi01use vlc06:23
Agent_bobsox06:23
t1n0m3nso I am not too familiar with linux sounds06:24
maduserlet me see06:24
Radi01look06:24
Agent_bobopen thine eye young man!06:25
* Agent_bob now imagines at least nine people attempting to raise the core temp of their machines....06:26
Radi01Mine has auto temp.06:26
Agent_bob"quick, compile a kernel"06:26
ViperAbout sounds, I enjoyed the 'system error' sound of a laptop when the sound system kept defaulting back to MAX volume on each reboot....06:26
ViperAnyone know if KDE kept the shattering glass error sound in KDE4 that comes with gutsy?06:27
yurimxpxmanwhat's the name of the program to install deb files?06:27
Viperdpkg06:28
trillisHahah!06:28
Viperdpkg -i name_of_file.deb06:28
t1n0m3nOK, so here is the scoop so far:  I can download fast from my XP machine, I download slow from my x64 linux, I download fast from my x32 linux (on the same machine), I download fast from my x64 machine over smb06:28
trillisI was chatting here last time using a java applet.06:28
trillisso I was trying to install a java applet and I was lost...06:28
Agent_bobyurimxpxman apt-get install   if it's in the repos   dpkg -i   if it's on disk06:28
ViperAn issue with a lib in 64?....06:28
t1n0m3nViper: I think so, but I have yet to find a similar issue in google.06:29
Vipertrillis: install a java applet?.... you don't install them.. .just make sure that you have java installed and key in java -jar /path/to/java_program.jar06:29
trillisViper: I'm on the Linux comp, now what?06:29
trillisarg..06:29
trillisThatpart confused me.06:29
trillisSomething about this wierd SU command.06:29
trillisApparently I don't know the password.06:29
Vipertrill, what are you trying to do now, run a java command or adept?06:30
trillisWell...06:30
Agent_bobt1n0m3n only a thought,   could be that ipv6 issue   the forums has chatter about.06:30
trillisNow I'm fine.06:30
trillisI just need to get the things you told me.06:30
trillisI hooked this computer up to the internet06:30
Viper**and su works differently then sudo**06:30
ViperThe load up adept_manager from the menu or sudo adept_manager from the terminal...06:31
Agent_bobtrillis ummm   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f          ?06:31
t1n0m3nAgent_bob: I thought that too, I have put ipv6 in the blacklist and rebooted already06:31
ViperAnd Nick, this babe application looks interesting.... you said it broke X?06:31
trillisjust type in sudo adept_manage in konsole?06:31
trillismanager*06:32
stdin"kdesu adept_manager"06:32
ViperYeah, that'll load the GUI for it.06:32
stdindon't use sudo06:32
Agent_bobViper he signed off already.06:32
madusersudo adept_manage06:32
Viperah... well it still look interesting none-the-less....06:32
madusersudo adept_manager06:32
trillisHm...06:32
maduserdoesn't work06:32
trillisadept manager is open06:32
Agent_bobmaduser no.   you should make it a habbit of advising  kdesu for gui apps.06:32
ViperAnd trill, I suppose standard knows KDE a bit more then I do, probably since he's/she's sitting at KDE...06:33
stdindo not use sudo with GUI apps...06:33
trillisStandard?06:33
Viperstandard, what is the issue with sudoing GUI's?06:33
stdin!kdesu06:33
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)06:33
Viperstdin == standard in in C++06:33
Agent_bobmaduser ^ see ubotu06:33
t1n0m3noh wow stdin, you just gave me an idea on some shell scripts06:34
stdinViper: actually "cin" (console in) is the equivalent of stdin in C++06:34
stdinstdin in just generic :p06:34
trillisk06:34
trillisAdept manager open.06:34
Vipererm... close enough06:34
ViperOh, sorry trill... search for ndiswrapper06:34
Agent_bobViper also in shell scripting   linux has device /dev/stdin /devstdout /dev/stderr06:34
maduserkdesudo Adept06:34
trillis:(06:35
trillisBroken?06:35
maduserkdesudo Adept Manager06:35
ViperOk, I get it.. it's nearly 2am, I'm tired!  lol06:35
madusernothing06:35
trillisI found the ndisgtk06:35
stdinmaduser: "Adept" is not a program name and neither is "Adept Manager"06:35
trillisand wrapper06:35
ViperTrill: ndis doesn't bring anything up?06:35
trillisI found them.06:35
ViperCan you install them?...06:35
trillisBut the status says "BROKEN".06:35
trillisIn red.06:35
Viperwhat context menu is there (right-click)06:36
stdinmaduser: it's "adept_manager"06:36
trillisI just requested an install.06:36
trillisBut its not doing anyting..06:36
stdintrillis: you have to click the apply button to get it going06:36
Agent_bobi told you to issue the command     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f         then they all said open the package manager...   if done in that order you wouldn't be looking at a broken package.06:36
trillis"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"....06:37
Viperinstall -f... I'm always hesistant to use force in installing apps...06:37
t1n0m3nyay firefox is installed... hehe06:37
trillisheheh06:37
Agent_bobViper -f is not force.  it's finish.06:37
trillisLet me try bobs way...06:37
ViperOh... for incomplete installs... OK06:38
ViperLike I said, I'm tired....  that's the excuse I'm using!06:38
Agent_bobi'm an idiot,  i don't need an excuse.06:38
Agent_bob:)06:38
trillisUnable to lock...06:39
trillisthe admin directory06:39
Vipersudo06:39
Agent_bobcause you didn't close the adept06:39
stdintrillis: you need to close adept too06:39
trillishahaha06:39
trillisoops06:39
trillisuhm...06:39
trillisa lot of words came up06:39
trillisand said DONE06:39
trillisDONE06:40
trillisDONE06:40
trillisDONE06:40
trillisetc...06:40
Viper@ not running sudo for graphic apps... Yeah, I remember what that does....   it's kind of annoying when that happens..06:40
Viperwell trill, done is a good thing!06:40
trillisDo I want to continue?06:40
Agent_bobyes06:40
ViperI'm going to guess... yeah06:40
trillisreading database...06:40
ViperSince you've only been fighting with this for the past several hours....06:40
trillisI started this quest around 8 or so... heheh.06:41
trillisIt's no 2am.06:41
trillisnow*06:41
madusergoogle your error06:41
maduserit always works06:41
trillisI did.06:41
trillisIWell.06:41
trillisActually.06:41
trillisI didn't have an error to google.06:41
maduserwhat happened?06:41
trillisI accidently found out there was a chat for kubuntu06:41
Agent_bobno error means no error.06:41
trillisI'm retarded.06:41
trillis<< Winxp user.06:41
stdintrillis: try to keep responses on one line, makes it easier to read :)06:41
trillisAh, sorry.06:42
ViperEspecially when you have 50 people posting things at the same time...06:42
maduseri know the fix to your probelm06:42
Agent_bobnow if the packaging cricisus is over i'll let you fellas finish what you started with him.06:42
madusertrills: sudo dpkg --configure -a06:43
maduserrun this as root06:43
Agent_bobmaduser heh. no.06:43
maduserit should work:)06:43
trillisRight now the last things the konsole said was "(Reading database ... 65809 files and directories currently installed.) Removing ndisgtk... Removing ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ...06:43
Agent_bobok you should be ready to install ndiswarper through adept as they said06:43
trillisk06:44
Agent_bobmaduser he doesn't have a problem atm.06:44
Agent_bobmaduser you are just a minute behind.  but keep trying. :)06:45
trillisThe only thing showing up on Adept is ndisgtk06:45
madusertrills do you use a broadcom wireless card?06:45
Vipererm... Ok, I think you have better luck with the terminal...06:45
ViperD-Link DWA-13006:45
Agent_boband it make Agent_bob look silly to answer pm's in the channel....06:45
trillisThis is my entire dilema.06:45
trillisGetting to instal those drivers hehehe.06:46
trillisinstall*06:46
trillisSo do I want to install the ndisgtk?06:46
ViperGAH, You jinxed me stdin!  I have that error caused by sudoing graphical apps....06:46
ViperYeah06:46
stdinViper: so chown your $HOME :)06:47
Agent_boblol06:47
Viperyup...06:47
Viperproblem is that I have well over 500gigs in that dir :(06:47
Agent_bobown your home     own your own home    !06:48
trillisI requested Install... But it's not doing anything...06:48
stdinchown shouldn't take long, takes longer on lots of small files than a few large ones06:48
stdintrillis: again, remember to click apply06:48
ViperTakes even longer when it tries to chown a 500gig NTFS drive :(06:48
Agent_bobstdin even faster if one find ./ first  lol06:48
* flaccid sips tea06:48
trillisThe apply button is fadded so I can't click it.06:49
ViperLOL, just go back to the command line....06:49
trillisMaduser: I'd reply to you PM but something about a spam block...?06:49
stdin!pm > maduser06:49
Agent_bobyou too ?06:50
Dr_willisOnly Registered nicks can PM.06:50
madusertrills: do you use a broadcom wireless card?06:50
* trillis is back in the konsole...06:50
ViperNo, he has a d-link06:50
maduserok06:50
madusernever mind06:50
stdintrillis: the command is "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"06:50
Vipersudo apt-get install whatever you need06:50
flaccidsudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 ...06:51
trillissudo apt-get install ndisgtk06:51
trilliswhoops06:51
Agent_bobpopy and caste06:51
ViperW00t!  hotbabe compiles!  LOL06:51
ViperAnd it REALLY slows down your system!  GAH06:51
trillisWhats pkg1 and pkg2?06:52
Agent_bobthat's what NickPresta said.   drug it down to a reboot.06:52
trillisPackage?06:52
Dr_willisHmm. Hotbabe was in one of the repos. :)06:52
Viperhe's saying that you can install several packages at once.06:52
Dr_willisseveras repo i think.06:52
flaccidtrillis: example names of packages06:52
trillisHm... "Package ndisgtk has no installation canditate".06:52
Dr_willis!find  ndis06:52
ubotuFound: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (and 5 others)06:53
Dr_willis!find  ndisgt06:53
ubotuFound: ndisgtk06:53
stdinuniverse...06:53
Dr_willis!info  ndisgt06:53
ubotuPackage ndisgt does not exist in gutsy06:53
Dr_willis!info  ndisgtk06:53
ubotundisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 172 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)06:53
Agent_bobDr_willis yeah you must have missed the Q.   NickPresta asked if it bogged anyone elses system down to a reboot    so all the "guys" in here jumped on the chance to test it.06:53
Dr_willisThere we go. :P06:53
stdinDr_willis: you trying to kill ubotu?06:53
t1n0m3nhow do I set the DF flag with ping in kubuntu?  The man page does not say06:53
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  hotbabe? it never slowed down my systems much that ive noticed.,06:54
Agent_bobyes hot-babe06:54
ViperI think that app fights with beryl....06:54
Dr_willisme pets ubotu.06:54
trilliserm....06:54
Dr_willisEverything fights with beryl :)06:54
* Viper pet ubotu06:54
t1n0m3nugh, beryl06:54
Agent_bob!botsnack06:54
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:54
t1n0m3nlol06:55
t1n0m3nthat is a good one06:55
stdintrillis: easiest way to enable the repositories you need is to (sigh) go back into adept. from there go to the "Adept" menu and click on "Manage Repositories" and then check all the boxes in the first tab06:55
Viperthat line is so humerous.. if you know what it means06:55
trillis"This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only availbale from another source.06:55
trillis"06:55
trillisAah06:55
ViperWell, I now have a new program to scp onto someone's machine during a LAN party ^_^06:56
flaccidcheck repos/versions06:56
Agent_bobViper hot-babe ?06:56
Viperyup ^_^06:56
Agent_bobfigured.06:56
ViperLast time it was xsnow, now it'll be this06:56
trillisWhat boxes?06:56
ViperActually... xsnow is a good trick to do with your classmates in a linux course!06:57
maduser!xsnow06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xsnow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:57
t1n0m3nin windows ping -f www.google.com means that you are sending a ping with the do not fragment flag set, is there a way to set the DF flag with ping in ubuntu?06:57
Agent_bobViper what does xsnow do ?     or is the name obvous enough ?06:57
trillisI don't see any boxes :(....06:57
stdintrillis: "box" is a shorthand for "computer system"06:57
trillisoh.06:57
trillisheheh06:57
Viperviperbot: xsnow = application for gnome to make snow appear over the desktop, covering windows and the taskbar... also santa flys across randomly06:57
Agent_bobstdin actually that time i think it was "check boxes"06:58
trillisSo what am I looking for?06:58
* leileiloll is away: off to play non-Free 206:58
stdinAgent_bob: yeah, actually just saw that :p06:58
stdintrillis: what do you see?06:58
trilliscomment # Line Commented out by installer becase it failed to verify06:59
ViperI think at this point.. it would just be easier if he initiated a remote assistance connection to one of us... more namingly, stdin.06:59
trillisThere is a few of those, and the some deb http://www.link...blah..06:59
trillis:-o06:59
stdintrillis: if you right-click on the greyed out ones do you see an option to "enable" ?06:59
maduserxsnow = sweet06:59
trillisYeah07:00
stdintrillis: do that for all the ones there that start with "deb http://"07:00
trillisk07:00
jaimehello guys07:00
jaimeanybody running laptops?07:00
trillisWhy though07:00
maduserxsnow looks a liitle laggy07:00
trillis?07:00
ViperI would, but linux hates @ sound drivers && wifi drivers.07:00
t1n0m3njaime: Dell laptop here07:00
stdintrillis: you should see it removing the "#" sigh, that activated the repository. a repository is a site that stores packages you can install with Adept or apt-get07:01
Vipermaduser: I ran xsnow on non-beryl/compiz machines, and it ran fine... they probably just have issues with composite manager.s07:01
stdins/sigh/sign/07:01
jaimet1n03n what vid?07:01
t1n0m3njaime: NVidia Quadro FX250007:01
t1n0m3njaime: NVidia Quadro FX2500m that is07:02
ViperG.Dit.... unblock maduser > Viper plz07:02
t1n0m3njaime: Its a Dell Precision M9007:02
Viperor whatever that command is, as I can't reply to anyone's PM.07:03
jaime:)07:03
jaimei'm getting a sony for christmas07:03
trillisMy adept doesnt want to load...07:03
jaimevery nice indeed07:03
jaimebut07:03
stdinViper: you have to register, or just join your own channel like ##Viper07:03
jaimejust searching around for a good linux os for it07:03
jaimei'll bring the specs07:03
t1n0m3njaime: kk07:04
jaimethe thing is its a intel card :(07:04
Vipererm... ok07:04
Viper##Viper07:04
maduserblocked?07:04
t1n0m3njaime: like an 815 onboard video adapter?07:04
stdin!register07:04
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration07:04
jaimeanybody with something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS640-Notebook-Processor-Centrino/dp/B0008EZBSE07:04
ViperYeah, I suck at IRC... new to this still...07:04
jaimedunno07:04
maduseroh viper is not registered07:05
trillisk... No do I try and get the ndisgtk?07:05
maduserI freaked out for a second07:05
Vipermad, I'm in that channel he just typed, if you click on ##Viper I think you'll go there... maybe07:05
maduserviper just register07:05
stdintrillis: did you click the "apply" button after enabling all of them?07:05
trillisYes.07:05
Agent_bobseems i'm for ever having trubble with the clock on these stupid computers07:05
t1n0m3njaime: what video card does that use?07:05
flaccidntpdate is good07:05
stdintrillis: ok, is adept still open or did you close it?07:06
jaimelook at the link07:06
jaimehttp://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS640-Notebook-Processor-Centrino/dp/B0008EZBSE07:06
trillisI closed it, but then reopened it.07:06
t1n0m3njaime: I am, but I cant find that paticualr spec07:06
jaimeIntel Graphics Media Accelerator 90007:06
stdintrillis: click the "Fetch Updates" button on the top row07:06
jaimeSee more technical details07:07
trillisholy crap07:07
jaimeclick on that07:07
maduseryo stdin would a remote destop connection or desktop sharing help07:07
t1n0m3njaime: ahh, k07:07
jaimecum on07:07
jaime:P07:07
maduserwe could do everything directly07:07
stdinmaduser: possibly, but that's way against policy07:07
trillisDone (100%) is appearing aloottt....07:07
stdintrillis: yeah, it's updating it's package list07:07
trillisk07:07
trillisIt brought me back to the main thing...07:08
Viperin IRC:: How do you change your nick?07:08
trillisWith a bunch of things saying "Not installed"07:08
t1n0m3njaime: what is the issue?07:08
jaimei want to know what hardware would i have trouble07:08
jaimealso does ubuntu support that grahpic card? with full acceleration07:08
jaimewithout doing mods07:09
stdintrillis: in the search box type in "ndisgtk", it'll then filter and you'll see the package in the list. just right click and request install07:09
stdintrillis: then click apply07:09
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intelikeyooops07:09
t1n0m3njaime: have you checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5454407:09
intelikeywhat am i missing here?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d64dde806   if anyone knows...07:09
trillisYay.07:10
trillisIt's installing.07:10
Viperone min. mad, I'm figuring out how to change my nick...07:10
maduserinstalling does not mean it will work07:10
stdinViper: /nick newnick07:10
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Viperoh.. that all?07:11
maduseri have that millions of times07:11
=== Viper is now known as eVipere
eVipereoooooh, I see ^_^07:11
trillisk07:11
trillisit finished installing07:11
trillisNow how can I install the inf file?07:12
stdintrillis: you should now see a new entry in KMenu > System   called "Windows Wireless Drivers"07:12
stdinthat's the tool you use07:12
trillisI saw that awhile ago...07:13
stdinit wasn't installed properly back then, but it is now07:13
trillishm...07:13
jaimewhat other issue i need to look for07:13
trillisWhy isn't it starting up?07:14
jaimeis kubuntu easy to learn?07:14
t1n0m3njaime: I think it is easier than most07:14
eVipereYeah.... for the most part07:14
intelikeyjaime no.  you will spend more than 8 hours trying to learn it all.07:15
madusernot as easy as ubuntu07:15
trillisI clicked the wireless devices but nothing happened... :(07:15
eVipereIsn't it under something else?...07:15
stdintrillis: has it opened?07:15
trillisNo.07:15
stdintrillis: just press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu ndisgtk" then07:15
jaimehm07:15
t1n0m3njaime: any linux is a mindset change from windows.... that is the hardest part07:15
jaimeyea i suck on learning too07:15
maduserruning form the teminal07:15
jaimewindows just work out of the box07:15
jaimeinstalling driver so easy07:16
jaimeis kubuntu meant for me?07:16
maduseris it?07:16
jaimei want one that is easy to config07:16
jaimedunno07:16
intelikeytry it and see,   you are the only one that can deside that.07:16
jaimeman i'm running gentoo right now07:16
trillisyay07:16
trillisIt opened.07:16
jaimesabayon linux07:16
eVipereOh, I guess it is called "Windows Wireless Devices"...07:16
jaimeworks out of the box07:16
jaimeubuntu i cant get acceleration working on nvidia 620007:17
t1n0m3njaime: Not necessarily, there is a lot that even I take for granted about Windows, that is a complete reverse in linux07:17
stdintrillis: click "Install new driver" and locate the .inf file07:17
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jaimedist like window, that works most hardware without needing to update drivers?07:17
intelikeyso   troll here often ?07:18
jaimein windows i'm crazy i love keeping up to date, same to driver and games patches and 3rd party application07:18
trillisIt's not thinking at all...07:18
t1n0m3nintelikey: I think jaime has a valid ?07:18
trillisI selected the inf.07:18
videoeddie_asl07:18
trillisBut it was directly from a CD>07:18
videoeddie_aasl07:19
stdin!ot | videoeddie_07:19
ubotuvideoeddie_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:19
t1n0m3njaime: however, I have spent a lot of time on windows and take for granted the methods used to make things work07:19
trillisI hit the install button and it doesn't do anything.07:19
Lynourejaime: Linspire I think is the one that tries to be most Windows-like, but so far, I have had to update drivers way more often in Windows than Linux. But I did choose hardware with a thought.07:19
stdintrillis: does it show anything in the main window?07:20
jaimewell windows is so easy to update07:20
jaimeand work many things like linux07:20
jaimebut linspire have their issue too07:20
trillisCurrently Installed Windows Drivers: Is blank.07:20
Lynourejaime: apt-get dist-upgrade  is easy to me. :)07:20
jaimehm07:20
mikeoanyone have problems with their whole computer locking up (laptop) with kubuntu?07:20
jaimeis kubuntu debian?07:20
eVipereyeah07:21
intelikeydebian based07:21
Lynourejaime: it's based on Debian.07:21
stdintrillis: did you click ok the inf and click "open"07:21
mikeoseems to be when opening lots of windows with compiz-fusion07:21
eVipereit's Debian + KDE + a commercial company.07:21
mikeofirefox or konqueror07:21
trillisYes, then install.07:21
t1n0m3njaime: yes, it is easy to update windows, but it is just as easy to update ubuntu... once you learn where all the tools are... it would work the same way if you were good in linux and were trying to learn windows07:21
stdintrillis: did you make sure to click the right inf file07:21
trillisAah..07:22
trillishow do I tell which is the right one?07:22
eVipereYou guess....07:22
trillishah07:22
eVipereIt should say hardware present if it's the right onw.07:22
trillisLooks like the autorun was.07:22
trillisYeah07:22
trillisThats what it says07:22
eVipereOk, then I had to run a command to get it to recognize the change.07:22
trillisNow what?07:23
eViperestdin, you'll probably have to correct on this.. but I think it was sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper07:23
t1n0m3njaime: I think the hardest part of linux is trying to unlearn what windows has taught you07:23
stdintrillis: does it show anything in the main window?07:23
trillisYeah07:23
eViperefollowed by sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper07:23
trillis"Autorun: Hardware present"07:23
stdineVipere: the gui should do it for him07:23
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jaimeyea07:24
jaimeis there a channel of07:24
jaimethat talk about different dist07:24
eVipereit doesn't....07:24
eVipereat least it didn't for me.07:24
jaimeand speak everything about linux07:24
intelikeyjaime ##linux maybe ?07:24
jaime?07:24
stdineVipere: it will load it, just won't autoload at boot07:24
t1n0m3njaime: for example, windows teaches that your harddrive is c: but that makes no sense in linux07:24
jaimegood job intelikey07:25
trillisEr.. Now what?07:25
intelikeyt1n0m3n if he's running gentoo i think he's past that stage...07:25
stdintrillis: ok you can close that and just do "sudo ndiswrapper -m" in konsole07:25
t1n0m3njust speaking in generic terms07:25
eVipereDidn't you just tellme that the GUI should handle that?....07:25
trillismodprobe config already contains alias directive?07:26
stdineVipere: I said "it will load it, just won't autoload at boot" < "ndiswrapper -m" makes it autoload at boot07:26
eVipereoh.... my problem was that the kernel didn't see the new INF driver... that's why I had to do -r followed by -i07:27
stdintrillis: ok, try rebooting then, without the network cable in. see if it picks up the wireless net07:27
intelikeyand his return seems to indicate that it's already done...07:27
trillisk07:27
trillisbrb07:27
t1n0m3njaime: one thing I will note though.  linux seems to make you learn more about your system than windows does.  You become more "in tune" with your computer than in windows.  It seems to me that windows makes people a bit too far removed from the goings on of their hardware for my taste.07:29
t1n0m3njaime: and with that comes a tad bit more complexity07:31
intelikeyt1n0m3n yep.  what i call the "think for them cause they are too dumb to do it themselves" syndrom07:31
intelikeyand i hate to see linux moving in that dirrection.07:31
intelikeyand i'm off topic.07:31
mikeolol07:32
intelikey"why doesn't it just do it for me"  </whine>     >:|07:32
mikeois there a good online resource for practical bash scripting07:32
intelikeymikeo #bash07:32
intelikeysee the topic07:32
mikeodo you guys know how to write scripts?07:33
mikeoand did it take you a long time to learn?07:33
intelikeyyes and no07:33
mikeocool07:33
t1n0m3nanyway, that is where I like ubuntu.  not quite easy enough for the casual windows user, but accessible.  and the complexity keeps coming the more you dig into it07:33
stdinif you can type commands in sequentially, you can make basic scripts script07:33
eViperelike ps -ax | grep lagging_program07:34
intelikeyecho -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n# this is a test script. \n\necho "now running the test script"\nls -sh \n' > test_script.sh ;chmod 755 test_script.sh        <<< mikeo07:36
mikeolike cat /dev/urandom07:36
mikeoare the \n's line breaks?07:36
Daisuke_Idointelikey: haven't seen you around lately07:36
intelikeyyep07:36
mikeowhats the s flag for ls?07:37
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido haven't hung out here much lately07:37
mikeoi know h is human, but never used s before07:37
intelikeysize07:37
mikeoand -e for echo?07:37
intelikeyextended   means inturpret the \* chars07:38
t1n0m3nanyone know how to make the ping command set the "do not fragment" flag?07:38
mikeointeresting07:38
Daisuke_Idointelikey: i noticed, but good to see ya again07:38
Daisuke_Idobut for now, gotta sleep07:39
intelikeymikeo that's the most basic of scripting.   stdin is considered a pro.  if you need help     and i'll be glad to answer what questions i can if i'm here.   but for advanced bash questions   #bash  is the best bet.07:39
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido peace bro07:40
Daisuke_Idothe missus is dragging me out of bed in 5 hours to go get cookies07:40
* intelikey looks up code word "get cookie" 07:40
intelikeyheh ok.  have fun.07:40
intelikey:)07:40
trillisarg...07:41
eVipere!cookies07:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cookies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi07:41
eViperesorry intelikey... no help here...07:41
Daisuke_Idono, real cookies.  two of the churches have their annual bake sale on the first saturday in december...  unfortunately that's today07:41
trillisIt didn't work :(07:42
Daisuke_Idoand now, gnight07:42
t1n0m3nhmm, weird "ping -M dont -s 1300 www.google.com"07:42
intelikeyoh   ok.   well i always liked it when the missus would mention cookies and bed in the same sentance  :)07:42
eViperetrillis: windows wireless devices shows that it's present, right?07:43
trillisIf I could open that >.<07:43
trillisIt doesn't like to pop up.07:43
t1n0m3nthe flag "-M dont" is equal to the windows "-f" flag?07:43
stdint1n0m3n: "man ping" and see07:43
trilliswhats the run command?07:44
eViperewhat does kdesu ndisgtk   reveal?07:44
trillissudo ndistkg?07:44
trillisdamn07:44
trillisAutorun: Hardware Present: No.07:44
t1n0m3nstdin: man is rather cryptic in this regard07:45
trillisShould I plug in the usb adapter?07:45
eVipereyeah....07:45
trillisheheh07:45
trillisk07:46
trillisThe adapter should be blinking, but its not07:46
eVipereThat's ok, for right now... does it show hardware presnt?07:46
trillisnope07:47
eViperecan you open the ndisgtk app even?07:47
trillisyeah07:47
trillisThe Wireless networkd driver gui?07:47
eVipereOk... go back to terminal and....        dmesg | grep ndis07:47
t1n0m3nok, my MTU is 1072 using -M dont  what the h3ll!?07:47
trilliswhoah.07:48
t1n0m3ndo I subtract the normal 28 bytes to get true MTU then?07:48
trillisNow what?07:48
eVipereOpen a new PM to me or stdin and paste what you get so you don't flood the channel..07:49
stdin!paste07:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:49
trillisCan't.07:49
trillisSays something about spam.07:49
eVipereah... that issue... lol07:49
eVipereOk, or use pastbin as per stdin...07:49
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php07:50
intelikeytry that one.07:50
trilliscyntax?07:50
asmhi07:50
eViperetrillis: The spam thing is because you didn't do /msg nickserv register command....07:50
stdintrillis: just post the text in and click send07:50
trillisIn here?07:51
asmi ve a question about how to make kubuntu  in 3 d desktop07:51
asmany help07:51
t1n0m3nlol, sorry self inflicted wounds here, I set my mtu to 1100  (1100 - 28 = 1072)07:51
stdintrillis: no, on the pastebin site07:51
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eViperepaste the URL of the pastebin, not the content.07:51
trillisk07:51
trillisposted07:51
stdinnow post the address back07:51
trillishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46408/07:52
eViperestdin:: all up to you on that post... something looks astray with ndis...07:53
stdintrillis: try posting the output of "grep 'loadndisdriver' /var/log/syslog" to pastebin07:53
trillisk07:53
eViperewell, I'm guessing it'll be # 46409 once he gets it posted....07:55
trillishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46409/07:56
trillisheheh07:56
trillisJesus...07:56
trillisI've been at this for 6 hours...07:56
trilliser...07:56
trillis707:56
eVipereas per the config file, I'm guessing that you may need to reinstall windows drivers.....07:57
trillisIt's on a cd though.07:57
eVipereYou had a .INF and the .SYS files there?07:57
trillisYeah07:57
stdinwhat's on a cd?07:57
eViperepreferebly for an XP machine of the same arch.07:57
trillisyeah07:57
eVipereThen try a 2000 driver.07:57
trillisI tried, but the only one that apears in the window of the wireless drivers is the autorun inf file.07:58
eVipereone sec, let me fish around dlink's website for a second...07:58
trillisk07:58
eVipereand just a quickie.. uname -a reveals what on your system?08:00
trillisLinux 2056 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:01
eVipereOk perfect, standard XP drivers should work fine08:01
trillisdamn08:03
trillisI can't find my cdrom directory...08:03
eVipereYour little device is an 802.11N card?....08:03
trillisSounds write.08:04
trillisright*08:04
t1n0m3nok, I have ruled out MTU as being my culprit on my slow internet downloads.  Using the "ping -M dont" I have verified that my laptop is in fact being limited by my DSL to 1492 and I have set me MTU to 1491 and I get the max 7.2MBps download rate.  Weird thing is, that if I set my MTU to 1100 or so, my max download rate drops considerably.  Which makes no sense to me.08:04
t1n0m3nyet another potential issue eliminated08:05
trillisThe inf file that seems to work is the Autorun.08:07
trillishm... I wonder..08:07
eVipereno... whatever your thinking.... no08:08
trillisOh :(08:08
trillisLOL08:08
trillisIt worked.08:09
eViperewhat did?08:09
trillisKinda I suppose.08:09
trillisThere were three inf files there.08:09
trillisone for win 2000, xp, and the autorun.08:09
eVipereand you loaded up the XP one?....08:09
trillisI just copy the inf winxp from the cd to the desktop and it showed up on the wireless driver08:10
trillisyeah08:10
trillisbut it still says no hardware08:10
trillisBut it could be that I'm using my ethernet right now.08:10
eVipereNo, it's not... I'm looking at extracting the required inf from the drivers now......08:10
trillisTheres sime lights on in the back of my computer I didn't see before...08:11
trillisheheh08:11
importhey guys love your system need a hand though i have to get a patch and the url says to do something like this get http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/madwifi-ng-r1679.patch08:11
trillisJust my imagination.08:11
importbut the problem is get isnt a reconised08:11
importfunction08:12
eViperetrillis, do you still have winxp installed that used to use that device?08:12
* trillis is retarded when it comes to linux08:12
trillisNo.08:12
intelikeyimport wget  ?08:12
trillisWinxp never touched that device08:12
importi tried to apt-get install get but it dint work08:13
importoh maybe08:13
importlet me try thanks intelikey let you know if it works08:13
importyour the man08:13
import:)08:13
importor women what ever it may be08:14
eVipereGAH!  I can get a file count of this blasted .cab, but I can't extract the data :(08:14
eViperetrillis, want to try extracting some cab files on *nix, I think since you have a 32-bit OS it may work for ya....08:15
trillisSure, how?08:15
eViperefirst, you need a couple applications...    sudo apt-get install cabextract unshield08:16
intelikeyimport if that's the only problem you ever have with linux,  you are the man.      or woman...   or irc robot or what ever...08:16
intelikey!botsnack | import08:17
ubotuimport: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!08:17
surgyhow do i get and install new splash screens? other than the ones that came with kubuntu?08:18
trillisk08:18
trillisgot it08:18
import:)08:19
trillisCan linux get viruses?08:20
importintelikey no i have had alot of problems but i learned to work with them08:20
importlol08:20
* trillis ez nub08:20
eVipereNo.. that's the driver I downloaded from dlink's site.08:20
importnope08:20
trillishehehe08:20
importtrillis its not worth it08:20
importmaybe a worm08:20
eViperelol08:20
trillisWhat happened?08:21
importbut thats really a blue moon08:21
eVipereDid you get a file send request, or whatever popped up trillis?08:21
trillisI did, and I accepted.08:22
importtrillis no viruses only wincrap has viruses i have seen some but the market is majority windows so people make mostly .exe bs08:22
trillisBut it failed.08:22
eVipereHmm.. ok...08:22
eVipereOh.. lol, my fault08:22
trillisI'm beginning to like linux actually...08:22
mikeowhy use irc when you can use metasploit?08:22
trillisIt's like a puzzle.08:22
eVipereone sec, let me disable the fw for ya for a bit...08:22
importbut on the other hand you can still be hacked if you have your ports open just close them up and kick back an laugh awhile08:22
trilliskk08:22
importtrillis watch out for ssh08:22
trillisssh?08:23
mikeosecure shell08:23
importyep08:23
eVipere^_^08:23
mikeoport 2208:23
import:)08:23
trilliswhy?08:23
eVipereOnce someone gets ssh access, they have unlimited control of your system.08:23
intelikeyif you don't run sshd  you don't have to worry about it.08:23
trillis:(08:23
mikeoif they get root ssh08:23
importtrillis if you had a ssh running on your pc i could connect to it through port 22 default08:23
mikeoif you knew his pw08:23
importthen run some brute force crap to get your root and pass08:24
mikeoand if nat was open08:24
importthen i could play god for a little while08:24
trillisroot?08:24
mikeoshould lock you out after 3 failed attempts08:24
importbut dont worry about it08:24
eVipereand don't worry trill, your're port 22 is safe, I checked ^_^08:24
importmikeo if they set it up like that08:24
trillishehehe08:24
trillisYaay08:24
importdefault on suse is crap :)08:24
mikeoi think its that way by default08:24
mikeothis is kubuntu lol08:24
trillis0kbps... Nice.08:24
intelikey!virus | trillis before they scare you with unbounded facts read this link08:24
mikeoditch the lizard08:24
ubotutrillis before they scare you with unbounded facts read this link: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2108:24
mikeoget a dragon08:24
importmikeo now i could make a script to run a sleep command for the interval that the system kicks me then retry again08:25
importbut thats another story08:25
mikeoi think it would take a very long time08:25
importsure would08:25
importbut very possibl08:25
eVipereHmm trill, I don't think file transfer likes IRC... I'll dig up the URl for ya from dlink.....08:25
import*possible08:25
mikeoimpractical08:25
mikeounless his password was password08:26
mikeoor a word in a word list08:26
importthere is another way but i dont want to discuss it08:26
trillisSounds good08:26
importtrillis you should be fine08:26
mikeorainbow tables?08:26
importkubuntu is secure enough08:26
importif its not have someone tell you about nmap08:26
eViperetrillis: ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwa130/Drivers/dwa130_BETA_drivers_120.zip08:27
mikeolol you know nvidia cuda pw cracking is like 25x faster than a fast cpu08:27
trillisoh08:27
mikeonmap -sX -P0 -sV etc...08:27
import:)08:27
trillisIs there anyway to change my resolution?08:27
mikeolight you up like a christmas tree08:27
importmikeo has been around a block08:27
importor two08:27
eVipereHmm, I'll have to try that one... using the GPU for it.08:27
* mikeo is just a college student08:28
* trillis is too08:28
eVipereAnyone who knows the x-mas command off the top of their head evidently has some experience...08:28
mikeohahaha08:28
mikeotheory but not expierence08:28
importsame08:28
mikeotaken a few security classes08:28
trillissu x-maxjuice2all %$ ?08:28
mikeoever use core impact?08:28
eVipereIn this world, you can't have theory without experience first!08:28
trillisx-mas*08:28
importnope08:28
trillisDamn zip?08:28
trillisOh shit.08:29
mikeoits weak08:29
eVipereoh yeah.. LOL08:29
eViperesudo apt-get installl zip unzip08:29
importmikeo whats core impact?08:29
mikeocosts like 20k or something08:29
importomg08:29
trillisit opened automaticallyl for me.08:29
mikeoa tool released by a savis for pen testing08:29
mikeoour school got a free box with it for testing purposes08:29
importsounds like crap08:29
eViperepen testing...???08:29
mikeohas some nice features but never up to date08:29
mikeoworks great on unpatched win2000 boxes lol08:30
mikeoi mean even metasploit works on default sever 2k3 installs08:30
importevipere :) its were you click a couple of times until you can write with a piece of plastic08:30
importjust need some paper08:30
eVipereYeah... and the 65k ping works on win98 machines too...08:30
trillisNow what do I do?08:30
mikeoever use cisco tourch?08:30
importi dont know i used microsoft for a while and i was very let down <-- not the word for it disappointed08:31
mikeoor the global scanner thing that checks all the default stuff08:31
eViperetrillis: extract those to a directory and cd into that directory with terminal   cd name_of_directory/08:31
* mikeo still needs to learn infrastructure security testing beyond basic theory08:31
importhere i weigh it out linux = free windows = paid for, and worse imo then linux08:31
importlinux has alot more support08:32
mikeolinux has less support in the corporate world08:32
mikeobecause 99% of people grew up using windows and feel comfortable with it08:32
importmikeo where can you go to get help with something?08:32
eVipereOnce you have those extracted into a dir and have cd'd into that dir, run     fx... what was that command?08:32
stdincan you take general chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic08:32
importin windows08:32
intelikeyimport ##windows08:32
intelikey;/08:32
importintelkey okay got me08:33
import:)08:33
trillisextract the files that i downloaded, and the ones on the cd to the same directory? Then go into the terminal and type: cd desktop/ ?08:33
intelikeydon't get me wrong    i dont do windows.   but lets not lie about.08:33
importbut still i rather use a linux system over win08:33
eVipereNo, just the zip you downloaded.08:33
mikeofrom what i have seen lots of upper management is hesitant to use linux because there is no main company to go to for support08:33
trillisIs the command correct?08:34
intelikeylinux does have better support   imo  for the user     and if the report is true  linux supports more hardware than any other os   par none.08:34
surgyhow do i get and install new splash screens? other than the ones that came with kubuntu?08:34
intelikeybar none08:34
stdintake general chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic ...08:34
importmikeo i read about Canada releasing kubuntu on dell systems store bought08:34
importso it seems like linux is trying to make an impact08:35
mikeoknow someone who worked with someone else at ups and i guess the researched switching to linux, cost them 3 mil and the project was a total failure08:35
eVipereIf you saved the file to your desktop and extracted it there, it would be cd ~/Desktop/dwa130_BETA_drivers_12008:35
trilliscd desktop_drivers/08:35
trillis?08:35
mikeoanyone know how to setup active directory with linux?08:35
trillisaah08:35
trilliskk08:35
importone second i need to check something08:36
trillisdamn08:37
trillisstill not working08:37
trillisthe folder with the files are on ym desktop called Drivers.08:37
eVipereOk, then it would be Desktop/Drivers08:37
trillisI typed: cd~/desktop/drivers08:37
eVipereDesktop/Drivers08:37
eVipereLinux is cap sensative, unlike windows.08:37
trilliscase sensitive?08:37
trillisheeh08:37
eVipereDesktop is different then desktop, two different directories.08:37
surgyhow do i get and install new splash screens? other than the ones that came with kubuntu?08:38
trillisgaaha08:38
trillisStill not working08:38
eViperesurgy: check kde-look.org08:38
Dragonathcd ~/Desktop/Drivers08:38
stdinsurgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto08:38
surgythnx stdin08:38
eVipereBetter idea, cd ~/Desktop/Dri {{ and hit the tab key a couple times}}08:38
Dragonathcd ~/Desktop first then do a ls to see what's there first?08:38
trillisooh08:39
trillisspace bewtween cd~08:39
Dragonathyes08:39
Dragonaththere must be a space between a command and it's arguments08:39
trillisthere we go08:39
trillisk08:39
trillisNow what am I typing?08:39
eVipereunshield x data2.cab08:40
trillisAborted.08:40
eViperewhat about cabextract data2.cab  ?08:40
trillisWarning; found install shield header. This is probably an install shield.08:41
weedarI connected a usb-pen drive that got mounted to /media/disk - but how would I know which device is mounted there (in the console) - it's not mentioned in the fstab08:41
trillisAll done, error in processor 1 files.08:41
trillisnow what?08:41
stdinweedar: "mount"08:42
trillisOh wait08:42
trillis"Use UNSHIELD to unpack it".08:42
Dragonathmy restricted drivers module tells me that mý ati radeon 9600 pro is running on restricted drivers, yet fglrxinfo shows this - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46412/08:42
trillisNo do I use the unshile command?08:42
trillisnow*08:42
DragonathI want my card to run restricted drivers, how do I do it?08:43
eVipereI was hoping it wouldn't do the annoying abort thing... What you need to do is figure out a way to extrac the drivers from that cab file... one way is to install it, as the program will extract them itself, but you need to run setup.exe to do so.08:43
Ch1ppyHey, I have two net ports on my box, but whenever I connect using one of them the internet works for a bit then dies.  It has worked properly before and still works in windows.  Can anyone help me out at all?08:43
eVipereIf you want to try that, go ahead and apt-get install wine    After that you can run .exe files.08:43
sigmai have a huge problem, ksysguard says im using 1010mb of memory, whilst crystal monitor on my desktop says 199mb, which one is right? i don't understand because i only have kaffeine open playing a small video. whats the problem?08:44
stdinsigma: ksysgaurd includes the cache in it's calculations, crystal monitor does not08:44
trillisGah08:45
trillisI have to do it tomorrow.08:45
trillisI need sleep.08:45
trillisI've been at this for nearly 8 hours or so.08:45
sigmastdin: whats the cache for?08:45
trillisThanks alot for you all of your help, no doubt I'll be back tomorrow.08:45
stdinsigma: to store often accessed files in memory, speeds up access08:46
intelikeysigma free -m    see the first line of data   should agree with  ksysguard    and the second   -/+ buffer/cache    should agree with crystal monitor     they are both right    but the info you are probably looking for is the  -/+ line   the actual in-use ram08:46
stdin^ the explanation I was too tired to give :p08:46
eVipereIf I end up trying to help him again, I'm just going to ask for an ssh tunnel && account... that may speed his issue up a bit...08:47
sigmaintelikey: so my pc is actually only using the amount of ram that is stated in crystal monitor?08:47
Ch1ppyHey, my net keeps dieing.. can anyone help me out?08:47
intelikeysigma that's what we're saying    you catch on quick for a linux user.08:47
eViperechippy: bad ether in your cable?... try refilling it.08:47
intelikey:)08:47
intelikeyhere's what my system is doing right now.08:48
intelikeyMemory Used/Total Percent: 23/377 MB (6%)08:48
intelikeySwap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)08:48
Ch1ppyeVipere: cable tested + fine, it seems to be related to the one net port, but is not a hardware problem08:48
weedarstdin - an obvious answer, but I needed it, thanks a lot! :)08:49
intelikeyit's pretty idle.  only doing some network intense things, nothing memory intense.08:49
sigmaintelikey: yup ive gotten some free training manuals and am going through the stuff and practising, can you explain to me whats the difference between vmsize and vmrss in ksysguard? im guessing that vmsize is the cache and vmrss is whats actuatually being used?08:50
intelikeysigma  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2a7f24b4  <<< the script i just ran to check my ram usage.  you might be interested.  you might not.08:51
sigmail check it out, thanks08:51
intelikeyand mikeo you like scripts.  ^08:51
eVipereI don't think he got my BOFH reference....08:52
sigma      total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached08:52
sigmaMem:          1010        994         15          0          9        74108:52
sigma-/+ buffers/cache:        243        76608:52
sigmaSwap:         2957         33       292308:52
stdin!paste | sigma08:53
ubotusigma: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:53
sigmathats what i get intelikey08:53
LynoureeVipere: well, maybe actually help him now? :)08:53
sigmasorry!08:53
intelikeyyep you are using 243m08:53
eVipereI would, but I dont't have much of a clue as to what his problem could have been, possibly a bad kernel driver, or simply a loose plug..08:54
sigmathis cache idea is just confusing me, so linux has actually reserved my meory for certain apps?08:54
intelikeyerr plus the 4to6 meg that the kernel eats and doesnt ever mention...08:54
intelikeysigma yes.  but it will relinquish that ram as needed.08:54
eVipereunless your running a Java application, then it just keeps consuming it.08:55
stdinsigma: the cache will be reduced if applications need more memory, it's used to store files that the system accesses often so it doesn't have to keep reading the disk08:55
LynoureeVipere: one can always walk him through some debugging questions, like:08:55
Lynourehmm, seems he left.08:55
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d599a7f50 <<< cpu.info08:55
sigmai see stdin, thanks08:56
sigmaso do you guys think there will be a kde4 install for gutsy as soon as the final version is released?08:56
eVipereIf me and him are online tomorrow and he's still having the issue, I'll try to walk him through... but I'm out for tonight.  g'night ya'll08:56
stdinsigma: it's planned for the same day08:57
intelikeybackported to the LTS too maybe.08:57
eViperesigma: Can't you download kde4 now?...08:57
luca_bstdin: Assuming package quality isn't as bad as the other releases by Kubuntu08:57
sigmastdin: how do they manage that? its the 16th Dec hey?08:57
stdinluca_b: you have a problem with the packages?08:57
luca_bstdin: Well, it's mostly a problem of what's packaged and what not08:58
luca_bstdin: I find easier to build from source since it's evolving way too rapidly08:58
stdinsigma: we'll get notified when the release is made and we'll make packages08:58
intelikeyof the 20k packages   it's still never enough....08:58
sigmaeVipere: you can get the rc version, i got the opensuse live cd because the kubuntu one wasn't out, its still pretty unstable though08:58
stdinluca_b: well that's totally unavoidable isn't it08:58
luca_bsigma: post-RC is quite stable, a few bugs but usable08:58
luca_bstdin: A selection like the openSUSE LIveCD would be optimal IMO08:59
sigmaluca_b: whats post rc?08:59
ben_anyone know of a good webhost, i'm sick of dreamhost08:59
eViperesigma: Opensuse 10.3 has been out for long enough, I think the KDE4 that was on it is pre-rc release.08:59
sigmaben_: which country?08:59
eVipereThe current KDE4 is version 3.9308:59
t1n0m3nthis NIC issue is driving me crazy09:00
ben_eVipere: I live in new zealand, but anywhere will do09:00
luca_bsigma: I mean, KDE (from source, or the recent openSUSE live CD) soon after RC got a few improvements09:00
stdinluca_b: so, you want the small kubuntu dev team to focus on getting KDE SVN builds out rather than working on other KDE releases/tools/apps ?09:00
sigmaall it says was that it was the RC 1 version09:00
ben_sigma: I live in new zealand, but anywhere will do.09:00
intelikeywhat means SVN ?09:00
luca_bstdin: Nope, I'd prefer actually no releases until the final one, so that it will probably get more attention09:00
eViperewell sigma, if you're feeling brave... you can always try apt-get install kde4base....09:01
Lynoureintelikey: subversion (version control)09:01
sigmaben_ i also used to live there, don't you get free i-net access? why not just host your own server?09:01
Lynouresigma: there is a live dvd too...09:01
sigmaLynoure: whats on the live dvd? is it kubuntu?09:01
ben_sigma: I'm planning to run busy websites, I need something with good bandwidth, home upload doesn't cut it09:02
luca_bstdin: Actually, if stuff from debian experimental is backportable, that would be a good idea to strat from there, less work involved09:02
Lynouresigma: kubuntu based, yes. I have not tried it yet, just burning it now.09:02
stdinluca_b: people expect us to have the pre-releases packaged like other distros. seems people complain when we do and complain when we don't...09:02
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intelikeyben_ apache2 ?09:02
sigmaeVipere: i tried that but as i dont have broadband i have to download packages manually, its a bit difficult with so many dependencies!09:03
sigmaLynoure: where did u find it?09:03
luca_bstdin: Forget about the experimental debian part, I forgot that they (I haven't tested them, just reading reports - disclaimer) they aren't made to think about coinstallability09:03
eViperethat's when you do the apt-get and go to bed!  Pray that your connection remains good.09:03
ben_intelikey: Yea, I need a lamp stack host. Bandwidth is a ripoff in my country though09:03
Lynouresigma: wait a bit, I'll check09:03
* intelikey mmm nods09:04
Linux_Galoreluca_b: there are lots of kde apps missing on the repo and you want the kde devs to work on an unstable and complete version of kde 4 lol09:04
Linux_Galores/complete/incomplete/09:04
sigmaim still confused about the whole dvd / cd thing, some people say the dvd has the live + install cd, others say it has a whole lot of repository packages included as well. which one is right?09:05
luca_bLinux_Galore: I'd just like to see packages that would not give KDE 4 a bad name, there are already too many people complaining for no good reason IMO09:05
Lynouresigma: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php09:05
stdinsigma: both09:05
sigmabut its only the main repo hey stdin?09:05
Linux_Galoreluca_b: kde 4 isnt finnished, it wont be finnished really until around 4.2/4.209:05
intelikeysigma yes.09:05
Linux_Galoresorry 4.1/4.209:05
stdinsigma: most of main and some restricted09:05
sigmaLynoure: thats the cd, not dvd - i knew about the cd09:06
Lynouresigma: I probably misremembered. So you already tried the cd?09:06
Linux_Galoreluca_b: if people are cpmplaining about an unstable incomplete version of kde 4.0 they should have read the warnings09:07
Linux_Galoreluca_b: its like getting a test car from Ford that has the doors missing then complaining about the draft09:08
LynoureWill the next kubuntu release come with kde4? (it being a LTS version, and all)09:08
sigmanope i got the opensuse one (kubuntu one hadn't been released), wasn't that great hey, looks alot better but not that usable. but then again it was running off a cd!09:08
intelikeyi'm out.  thanks fellows, for all the time well spent.   and all the time wasted too.09:08
stdinLynoure: no09:08
intelikeystdin shalom.09:08
luca_bLinux_Galore: If something (within resources, priority, etc...) can be done to reduce the stupid whining I read everytime on the dot and elsewhere, it would be nice09:08
Lynourestdin: good :)09:08
sigmaLynoure: nope09:08
Nurburgring2hi i just downloaded the drivers for my ati card and would like to install in Ubuntu. The file extension is .run, how do i do this?09:08
stdin!ati | Nurburgring209:08
ubotuNurburgring2: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:08
sigmaif there are any south africans in this forum does anyone have the repo's on dvd that they can send to me?09:09
Nurburgring2thanx very much sir09:09
Linux_Galoreluca_b: people are idtiots get over it, that your still worrying is na sign you havent matured to the stage that you trully understand that and fighting it is like trying to stop the tide09:09
Nurburgring2oh i c, bot...09:09
sigmail reimburse you for postage+media of course!09:09
Linux_Galore<- 34 years of technical customer support09:10
Linux_GaloreIm not surpirsed by anything anymore09:10
Linux_Galoresurprised*09:10
sigmawell hopefully the kde4 final will be nice and stable:) im looking for a change, already know my way around 3.5.809:11
luca_bLinux_Galore: as far as I read, it's truly demotivating for the developers involved (disclaimer - I'm not one of them, I'm just someone who tests and reports bugs when time permits)09:11
stdinsigma: don't expect "stable" as such until at least 4.109:11
Linux_Galoresigma: Im sticking with 3.5.8 for another 6 months and by that time I will have a better machines and compiz and KDE 4.1 will be working09:11
Lynoureluca_b: I'm not actually even eager for kde4 as some of my fave programs do not work with qt4 yet...09:12
sigmathats the same reason kde4 isnt going in hardy hey09:12
stdinluca_b: trust me, the kde devs don't care what's on /. or the register, and neither do I :)09:12
Lynoureluca_b: So I'll be just happy if it will take 6 months more or so :)09:12
Linux_Galoreyeah I dont want kde4 in the next release it will take at least another 6 months to port a good portion of the kde 3 apps pver09:13
Linux_Galoreover*09:13
luca_bLynoure: I'm way too eager for it, I?m just waiting to learn PyQt4 and get the ball rolling for some KDE4 goodness09:13
luca_b(I mean, PyAt4 +09:13
Cugel2I tried the KDE4 RC1 -- it's not ready.09:13
luca_barghghg sorry,09:13
surgy!c09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:13
surgy!ide09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:13
Linux_Galorestdin: unless your paying them heh09:14
[ifr0g]!kde409:14
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php09:15
luca_bLinux_Galore: A few "important" apps have started porting recently, at least integrators etc can check a page on KDE's techbase to see the porting status09:15
Linux_Galorecompiz is still not working well and consumes way too much resources even when doing nothing09:15
Linux_Galoreluca_b: yes but porting is one thing fixing all the port bugs will take 6 months09:16
[ifr0g]!games09:17
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:17
luca_bLinux_Galore: essential apps like dolphin or konqueror work reasonably well already, *not* that I'd like KDE4 in a LTS release of course09:17
PolitikerNEUjust a question: is an amarok 2 package for kde 4 availible for kubuntu already?09:18
stdinno, for the simple reason that it's broke :p09:19
luca_bPolitikerNEU: It's alpha stage, I don't think it'll be out for a few months *at least*09:19
PolitikerNEUyes, but there are kde 4 packages ... and you can't say plasma is finished as well ... but if there are no packages, i have to accept it ... because i haven't got enough disk space to compile whole kde 4 svn09:21
stdinPolitikerNEU: you could download the svn version of amarok 2, but like I said: there are no packages because it won't build yet09:21
sigmacompiz works perfectly on ubuntu, but looks so out of place on kubuntu09:22
luca_bstdin: even if it builds, it's broken 8P09:22
PolitikerNEUoh ... that could be another problem why i didn't manage to build it ...09:22
PolitikerNEUbecause it said "FILE ERROR" at some (late) point09:22
luca_bPolitikerNEU: amarok depends on libplasma, which is still in a state of flux, therefore when libplasma changes, amarok build breaks09:22
sigmaPolitikerNEU: the porting of kde4 apps has begun, it will prob be ready when the final release comes out09:23
PolitikerNEUok09:23
PolitikerNEUso I'll have to wait a month or so ...09:23
sigmanope its out on +- 16th dec09:23
sigmaso half a month odd09:24
luca_bsigma: may be pushed to Jan 4th (tagging) and Jan 11th (release)09:24
PolitikerNEUPersonally, I doubt that KDE 4.0 will be finished at that time ... at least plasma seems to be really unfinished now09:25
stdinon any day if you expect it to be out, you'll be wrong ;)09:25
sigmaoh well i wont be using it fully till its implemented in kubuntu09:25
PolitikerNEUand a question ... will I be able to use the old kicker (of kde 3) in kde 4?09:25
luca_bPolitikerNEU: Plasma improved *greatly* over a few days past RC, so I believe it's quite possible09:25
PolitikerNEUhmm ... ok09:26
stdinprobably not09:26
luca_bPolitikerNEU: nope, read http://liquidat.wordpresss.com for an explanation why09:26
luca_bit's a great writeup09:26
luca_bon the design decisions09:26
sigmathe target release date on wikipedia is 11-dec, lol09:26
PolitikerNEUHmm ... what should I click on the link luca_b ?09:26
stdinsigma: and you trust wikipedia implicitly?09:27
luca_bPolitikerNEU: it's not a malicious link, check the web page and it's the latest post09:27
luca_bstdin: Wikipedia is somewhat correct, the push back hasn't been decided yet, just discussion among the release team09:27
sigmastdin: lol of course not!09:27
stdinluca_b: was a general statement, not specific09:27
PolitikerNEUthere are only links for hosting wordpress like "Free installation of wordpress ..."09:28
luca_banyway the answer for kicker is "no", since its mantainer is also the plasma project mantainer09:28
luca_bPolitikerNEU: whoops, sorry, let me fire up the right one09:28
sigmais there any way to make kde 3 look like kde4 properly? i like that oxygen theme09:28
luca_bhttp://liquidat.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/kde-4-some-reasons-for-design-decisions/09:28
luca_bsigma: the Oxygen team has kindly asked not to distribute the art in packaged form because it's not ready yet09:29
luca_bsigma: that said, you can get MOST of the icons working with a script on kde-look.org09:29
sigmaoh yes, konqueror is looking great in kde4, but dolphin is still hopeless, at least konq can still be used as the file manager09:29
sigmaluca_b: do you know the name of the theme on kde-look.org?09:30
luca_bsigma: it's a script, hold on I'll get the link09:30
sigmathanks09:30
[ifr0g]and about kde4 when is the relase date ?09:31
luca_bsigma: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6155609:31
stdinwhen it's ready09:31
sigmakde should use firefox for browsing (and make it look more like kde), drop dolphin - that was a mistake from the start and concentrate on konq as the file manager only09:31
luca_bsigma: you need svn (command line util) and inkscape installed09:31
sigmathanks09:31
luca_bit'll create a tar.bz2 file in your $HOME09:32
luca_bthen install it with the theme manager09:32
sigmadam inkscape has this one dep that has like 100 deps attached to it :(09:32
stdinsigma: dolphin in kde4 is a perfectly usable file manager09:32
hangthedjdoes anybody have trouble with VirtualBox and not being able to run usb09:32
hangthedj?09:32
luca_bnotice, you'll see LESS icon than in KDE4, because they have been renamed09:32
luca_band the script does just a quick hack09:32
luca_b(renamed = renamed to fit the freedesktop.org naming specification, used by other themes like GNOME's Tango)09:33
sigmastdin: i tried it, didn't feel so diff to the one in kde3, konq still has way more usability09:34
sigmahopefully over time it will catch up09:35
stdinsigma: there's a huge difference between dolphin and d3lphin. the only reason people are so resistant to dolphin is because it's not konqueror09:35
luca_bstdin: well said09:36
hangthedjdoes dolphin support and do all the things konqueror can?09:36
stdinyes, it supports all the kioslaves09:36
sigmaluca_b: well il have 2find somewhere to download those files, do you know how i can change the font colours of the firefox menu's?09:36
stdin(all the ones that have been ported anyway)09:36
luca_bsigma: to adapt it to KDE?09:36
hangthedjcan i fish:/ with dolphin? :)09:36
sigmastdin: hold on whats d3lphin?09:36
luca_bhangthedj: yes, you can, I've been testing it in KDE 409:37
stdinsigma: it's the name of the kde3 port of dolphin09:37
hangthedjluca_b, cool thats all i really care about09:37
PolitikerNEUoh ... I have read the article but it didn't answer my question exactly .. I know that there will be no "kde 4 kicker" - but will I be able to just load the old kde 3 kicker like I can start the old amarok 1.4 in kde 4 (I have heard about some qt 4 qt 3 compatiblity layer - and btw. - wasn't kicker included in the first alpha of kde 4)?09:37
stdinhangthedj: I'd rather use sftp:/ ;)09:37
sigmaluca_b: yes, i tried the kdeff theme, but the menu borders break and the fonts are too dark when you hover on the menu's09:38
luca_bPolitikerNEU: yes you could, ttechnically - and yes there was kicker as well, but it was just while libplasma was being adjusted09:38
PolitikerNEUok, thanks - that's fine09:38
luca_bsigma: Hmm, I just use that theme, unfortunately09:38
hangthedjstdin, yeah force of habit, my eyes are getting bad in my old age, so fun things like scp from the command line are no longer fun09:39
hangthedjsftp, i always forget about it for some reason09:39
sigmaluca_b: no idean how to modify it?09:39
luca_bsigma: Unsure, it's styled through CSS though, it shouldn't be too hard but I don't know where to look09:39
stdinhangthedj: no "sftp:/" instead of "fish:/", fish:/ is a hack that used ssh and some python code. sftp:/ is the builtin more secure way09:40
sigmaluca_b: same prob here, i found a few but none related to the theme09:40
stdinhangthedj: there are a few possible security risks with fish:/ so using sftp:/ is a good habit to start09:41
stdin(not I said "possible" risks there)09:41
stdin*note:09:41
hangthedjfor some reason i only use sftp when i'm using mac servers09:41
luca_bstdin: good tip, I didn't know about it09:41
hangthedjnot sure why09:41
hangthedji'm gonna blow up vmware09:44
sigmawhy?09:45
hangthedjcause, i tried to load windows after along time, cause i'm testing something, and it said it couldn't so i got a patch, and now its going along slower than i've ever seen windows go. ever.09:46
sigmawhy do u need windows?09:47
hangthedji'm trying to figure out what the login and logout prompt is for the blackberry bluetooth modem.  i've got it 95% working09:48
hangthedjon linux09:48
hangthedjsurprise surprise windows is lost.09:49
hangthedjno more vmware09:49
penguin!beryl09:49
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz09:49
penguin!compiz09:49
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion09:49
hangthedjhaha09:53
hangthedji named my connected dialup, and tried to connect to it, and it crashed, then windows said would you like to report, and i said no, but then it popped up and said cannot report without inet connection, would you like to connect using dialup.09:53
hangthedji could click ok all night09:54
sigmathose modems are always dodgy09:54
Wilde_Sehnsuchthi. i am a newbie in using eclipse for developing c++ applications. i'm using Ubuntu as OS (latest Gutsy 7.10 release). I've downloaded eclipse-cdt-fetched-src-autotools-0_9_5.tar.gz and unpacked it properly. But when I'm trying to open preferences window with autotools it reports an error...09:54
sigmawhy not use a cable connection? thats what i do with my win smartphone09:54
hangthedji'm gonna try that next with the world famous (to blackberry users) tether your blackberry with linux09:56
stdinWilde_Sehnsucht: isn't that the same as the package "eclipse-cdt" ?09:56
hangthedjbut XmBlackberry stopped being developed and is a pain to install and its late09:56
Wilde_Sehnsuchtstdin: as far as i know eclipse-cdt doesn't provide autotools. but i have eclipse-cdt installed09:57
stdinWilde_Sehnsucht: I've never used eclipse, I tend to use kdevelop09:58
stdinWilde_Sehnsucht: try asking in eclipse09:59
stdinWilde_Sehnsucht: try asking in eclipse09:59
stdindamn :p09:59
stdin#eclipse09:59
Wilde_Sehnsuchtstdin: i'm trying :) but there's no answer yet :)09:59
stdingive it a while, you'll get a response eventually :p10:00
Wilde_Sehnsuchti hope :)10:00
lvjiabinchinese10:15
lvjiabinanybody10:15
lvjiabin?10:15
stdin!cn | lvjiabin10:15
ubotulvjiabin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk10:15
lvjiabinThank you !10:16
level1hi, I ran dgen (a sega genesis emulator)... anyway, it locked up sound system and now I don't have any sound from any app, even though I've restarted X... how can I unlock my filesystem?10:22
level1!oss10:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:22
level1!alsa10:22
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:22
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lvjiabinHe,There  is something  wrong  with  firefox10:30
lvjiabinEn,why  update to 2.0.10,It is very  unstable10:31
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anterasia_childrhey is any 1 there?10:46
anterasia_childr_____10:46
anterasia_childrany one there?10:47
k-nabysshello10:47
anterasia_childrwat sorta snakes have u got?10:47
anterasia_childr      ?10:48
anterasia_childrmkquist?10:49
anterasia_childrnabyss!!!!!!!10:50
anterasia_childrgukk10:50
ardchoilleanterasia_childr: This is a support channel for Kubuntu. Do you have a Kubuntu support question?10:50
vzduchobviously not :D10:51
vzduchmornin ardchoille10:51
ardchoilleObviously10:51
ardchoilleMorning vzduch10:51
Riddell** kubuntu meeting in 5 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting10:54
ardchoilleRiddell: Thank you for the reminder10:55
Wilde_Sehnsuchteh..everyone is sleeping on #eclipse...may be here anybody can help... how do i compile a plugin for eclipse in gutsy?10:55
vzduch!b-e | Wilde_Sehnsucht10:57
ubotuWilde_Sehnsucht: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)10:57
vzduchyou have that?10:57
Wilde_Sehnsuchtaha i do10:57
vzduchthen what's the problem?10:58
Wilde_Sehnsuchtbecause it's an eclipse plugin :)10:59
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k-nabyssfuck you11:01
k-nabyssbitbh11:01
adyyplz join #tabaci11:02
Jucatoadyy: no11:03
blekoshi, is it possible to "color" files and emails like Mac?11:03
vzduchblekos: ?11:03
blekosin Mac u have the ability to color the names of the files11:04
blekosred, yellow etc11:05
waylandbillblekos: if you alias ls to:   alias ls="ls --color=auto"   it will do that.11:05
waylandbillif you mean in a terminal11:05
Jucatono, I think he means in the GUI11:05
JucatoOS X is all about GUI :)11:05
waylandbill:)11:05
JucatoI don't think it's possible yet on a per file basis11:06
Jucato(would be nice though... next to tagging files.. which would be possible in KDE 4 I think... I think...)11:06
waylandbillI know many graphic artists that use mac's... but they would even know what a command line is. Of course, they're better than I at graphics, so I guess it all works out. :)11:07
ilorhi, I have compiz working, wobbly windows and all, but emerald themes don't seem to work11:08
blekosnot the terminal11:09
ilorI can laucnch the theme manager, but selecting themes doesn't do anything11:09
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_DTilor: make sure you've installed the emerald package11:12
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ilorI have it installed11:14
blekosanybody using kde4?11:14
Jucatoilor: you might be able to get more help in #compiz-fusion11:14
iloroh, ok11:14
Jucatoblekos: yes. but not rc1.11:14
_DTilor: If it's installed then try reloading your window manager or restarting the computer11:15
_DTworked for me ;-)11:15
Jucato(no need to restart the computer, at most you just need to restart X, or even just log out)11:15
ilorwill try, thanks11:15
_DTfusion-icon is pretty good at managing compiz-fusion + emerald11:15
blekosand how is kde4? have you tried it with compiz-fusion?11:18
waylandbillkde4 and compiz. live life on the wild side. :-D11:19
Jucatoblekos: you wouldn't need compiz-fusion in KDE4. it has its own compositing and effects11:19
Jucato(no cube though. thank goodness...)11:19
blekoshow about flame writing!! lol11:20
waylandbillI thought the cube was interesting for a couple minutes, but couldn't figure out anything I'd use it for. :)11:20
JucatoI think kwin's effect are plugin-based, so it will just be a matter of time before 3rd party effects such as those come out11:20
clau85got a problem here: after logging in in the GUI, it doesn't go any further, i.e. it does not log in11:28
clau85just the kubuntu blues screen11:28
vzduch!info pork11:32
ubotupork: Console-based AOL Instant Messenger & IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.8.1-1 (gutsy), package size 242 kB, installed size 1608 kB11:32
vzduch!info bitchx11:32
ubotubitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 1515 kB, installed size 6524 kB11:32
sebastian^good morning everybody11:35
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level1Hi, I told kde to use dgen to load .bin files and now before every application starts I get a dialog box saying: Could not find mime type application/octet-stream11:42
level1the app still starts, but I get that error message11:42
ardchoillelevel1: You need to add file association application/octet-stream back to the file associations11:44
level1ardchoille: how do I do that?+11:44
ardchoillelevel1: Hold on..11:44
ardchoillelevel1: alt+f2, type in kcontrol11:44
level1ardchoille: can I keep .bin files mapped to dgen, or should I give that up11:45
ardchoillelevel1: You can keep it mapped, the problem is that sometimes when you add a new file assoc, the octet-stream gets removed.11:45
level1okay11:46
level1whats next?11:46
ardchoilleGo to KDE Components > File Associations11:46
ardchoilleAt the bottom, in the middle, there's an "Add" button, click it11:47
ardchoilleGroup: application11:47
level1octet stream?11:47
ardchoilleType: octet-stream11:47
level1okay11:47
ardchoilleClick Ok, the Apply11:48
ardchoille*then11:48
level1okay, seems to work now11:48
ardchoille:)11:48
level1thanks!11:49
clau85my kde does not start after logging in. anyone has an idea what myght be wrong/where to loo further?11:49
clau85I just installed fglrx, but if I use the "ati" driver, it works!11:51
clau85it looks awful and it's slow, but it works11:51
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jjangehello11:57
jjangeis there anybody who can tell me the defaul passowrd for root?11:58
pag!root | jjange11:58
ubotujjange: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:58
jjangethanks11:59
gan|y|medhi11:59
gan|y|medhow can i exclude certain packages from being updated?11:59
Jucato!pinning12:01
ubotupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto12:01
gan|y|medthx12:05
user1 if I have 2 sound cards, how to tell alsa to use one of them as defaut12:05
slow-motionhi12:14
nosrednaekimhi12:14
youaredoome0i need help with ubuntu server12:21
youaredoome0sg12:21
youaredoome0arg12:21
user1we failed to help12:22
WaltzingAlongwhich help, that is the key12:24
foenighi@all12:31
nosrednaekimhi foenig12:31
whiphi12:32
whipcan somebody help me with my printer?12:32
puppetmasterHello everyone12:33
puppetmasterI can't run compiz12:33
nosrednaekimpuppetmaster: whats the problem?12:33
puppetmasterI have a motherboard type: ASUS P4V8X-MX12:33
nosrednaekim!hardware | whip12:33
ubotuwhip: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:33
puppetmasterno 3d desktop effect support12:34
puppetmasterwhatshould I do my friend12:34
foenigim catching a rm stream with mplayer as wav ... without any parameters ... the file is an .wav - only mplayer plays it - how can i work with it outside mplayer? any suggestions12:34
nosrednaekimpuppetmaster: what graphics card.12:34
foeniguups ... i found the mplayer channel12:35
puppetmastermy graphical card is built it : VIA/S3G Unichrome Pro IGP12:35
whiphi yes, i found it in the hardware support12:35
whipit is the hp laserjet 110012:35
whipthe driver is hpijs12:36
whipshould i install it via apt-get ?12:36
puppetmasterSo!!12:37
whipi've installed the driver, and now?12:37
whip;)12:37
nosrednaekimwhip: its already installed12:37
whiphow?12:37
nosrednaekimpuppetmaster: you're out of luck then, you're not getting a 3d desktop out of that12:37
whipit's installed?12:38
nosrednaekimwhip: system-settings-> printer12:38
puppetmasterSo it's a hopless case my friend?12:38
whipok,12:38
whipmom,12:38
nosrednaekimwhip: by default, yes12:38
nosrednaekimpuppetmaster: pretty much.12:38
puppetmasterthank you 4 ur help12:38
nosrednaekimpuppetmaster: go get yourself a cheap Nvidia card.12:38
puppetmasterok12:38
puppetmasterthanks12:38
whip@nosrednaekim i think there is something wrong,12:39
nosrednaekimYW12:39
whipcause it takes really long to open the printer12:39
whipi open settings, and than i open printer, and it takes really really long,12:39
whipis this normal?12:39
nosrednaekimwhip: as long as it opens, yes its normal.12:40
whipok.12:40
whipin this case i wait, a little bit12:41
nosrednaekimwhip: did it open?12:41
whipnot yet12:42
whipbut after i while it opens,12:42
whipi know because i already tried to install the printer, but with no luck12:42
nosrednaekimok12:42
whipso i have to wait about 3min... i think then it opens,12:42
llutzMoin12:42
whipdon't know why it does take so long...12:42
whipok,12:45
whipnow it is here...12:45
whip@nosrednaekim i'm ready12:46
nosrednaekimwhip: delete the printer you added.12:46
whipi didn't add anyone yet,12:46
whipcause i didnt found where to add,12:46
whipi already searched for it12:46
whip;/12:46
nosrednaekimwell, then click the "add" button and add a printer/class12:47
nosrednaekimand that should step you through it12:47
whipthis button is disabled12:47
busfahrerHi, I was wondering, Compiz is now integrated into Ubuntu, but whats the proper way to activate it in Kubuntu?12:47
whipi dont know why?12:47
nosrednaekim!compiz12:48
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:48
nosrednaekimwhip: go into admin mode12:48
whipok,12:48
whipnow a red box is there, but nothing in it12:48
busfahrerthank you!12:48
nosrednaekimerk.... ok....12:48
nosrednaekimclose that then, and run "kprinter" from the command line, and add a printer from there.12:49
whipi also had this once,12:49
whipthan i had to wait,12:49
whipuntil it came there...12:49
nosrednaekimah12:49
whipdo i need cups?12:49
eduardiyoanyone use AWN under kubuntu 7.10?12:49
whipis it installed by default?12:49
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eduardiyoi can't start the application when i click on Awn Manager12:50
eduardiyo:S12:50
nosrednaekim!AWN12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:50
nosrednaekim!avant12:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:50
nosrednaekimwhip: yes, it is12:50
whipnorednaekim?12:50
whipdo i need the port 631?12:51
gabbah79when i try to connect to MSN, Kopete always crashes. icq works fine. anyone know about this?12:51
whipperhaps its blocked, and that is it?12:51
nosrednaekimwhip: thats possible if you have a firewall.12:51
whipok,12:51
nosrednaekimgabbah79: do a complete update.12:51
gabbah79oh true i haven't done that yet...12:51
nosrednaekimgabbah79: it was a problem with the release version of the kdelibs, an update should fix it nicely12:52
gabbah79when i did it before (have reinstalled since then), it always says there was some error to commit the changes, and then it says installation complete... weird12:52
nosrednaekimupdate you package lists first?12:52
gabbah79so on first update i get an error saying some audioport lib is no longer supported, and after that i always get that annoying error msg whenever i install something12:53
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gabbah79yeah, when i get the latest updates of my packages, thats when i get the audioport lib error12:53
gabbah79so basically first thing i update with synaptic screws me12:54
gabbah79FIRST update after clean install.. :(12:54
nosrednaekimgabbah79: just uninstall that audioportlib12:54
busfahrerWhen I do compiz --replace, all my windows lose their decorations (titlebar, border, etc). I'm using Kubuntu 7.10 that I updated from 7.04. Any ideas?12:55
gabbah79nosrednaekim: ok i will try that12:55
nosrednaekimbusfahrer: is this an nvidia cart?12:55
nosrednaekim*card12:55
busfahrernosrednaekim: Yes.12:55
nosrednaekim!addARGBLXVisuals12:55
emilsedghbusfahrer: do you have compiz-kde package ?12:56
busfahreremilsedgh: Yes.12:56
busfahrerbtw, also, when i run ccsm, all the icons are replaced by a "not found" icon.12:56
whipok,12:56
whipit is also disabled12:56
nosrednaekimbusfahrer: normal.12:56
busfahrerOK, but what about the decorations? :-)12:57
Eduardiyoanyone knows a how-to to configure AWN (Dock)12:57
nosrednaekimbusfahrer: check your xorg.conf and see if you have a "addARGBGLXVisuals line.12:57
busfahrernosrednaekim: Nope, what's the correct syntax?12:58
nosrednaekimbusfahrer: I shall check12:58
busfahrergot it, brb12:58
parasithi for all12:59
nosrednaekimwhip: ok, run "kprinter"12:59
ardchoilleEduardiyo: I seem to remember a wiki page about AWN12:59
whipwhere and how?13:01
parasitCan anybody help me?   I can't download firefox from "add / remowe program". on press apply its close imidently13:01
gabbah79nosrednaekim: "there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."  :(   Same as always...13:01
whipok,13:01
whipi have kprinter13:01
parasitkubuntu 7.0413:02
nosrednaekimgabbah79: check which packages depends on that library13:02
gabbah79nosrednaekim: however, it SEEMS everything installed anyway.13:02
gabbah79well it didn't report what lib was the problem13:02
nosrednaekimwhip: clcik the little ad printer button13:02
Eduardiyo!es13:04
whipnothing happens :/13:04
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.13:04
gabbah79nosrednaekim: i don't know what package is causing the problem actually. i just think it was some audioport lib thingy.. but i couldn't find it when i searched13:04
nosrednaekimhrm..ok13:04
whipso you mean, if i get into this "menu" -> add printer,13:04
parasitAnybody hear me&13:04
whipi can normally chose laserjet110013:04
whipand add it normally?13:05
parasiti cant download mozilla what  kind of trouble can be ?/13:05
nosrednaekimwhen you run kprinter, press the little wand.and follow the dialog13:05
nosrednaekimparasit: try "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox" on the command line13:06
whiphey, now its active ;)13:06
whipi'm only trying to open this menu13:06
whip;)13:07
whipbut now i have "printer/class" enabled...13:07
whipperhaps that i started kprinter? and choose there "cups" ?13:07
nosrednaekimoh.... you did that?13:08
nosrednaekim<_<13:08
nosrednaekimcould be13:08
whipyep13:08
nosrednaekimso is it all working now?13:09
parasithow i can change  place of download without updating of header file &13:09
parasitserver wrote error 40413:10
nosrednaekimparasit: adept_manager->adept->manage repositories13:10
whipthe menu is enabled,13:10
whipi clicked on it,13:10
nosrednaekimand...13:10
whipbut it seems to take really long to open13:10
nosrednaekimyeah, it can13:10
whiphey, funny13:11
whip;)13:11
whipi made a13:11
whipcupsys restart13:11
whipand now its open ;) fine13:11
whip;)13:11
nosrednaekimLD13:11
nosrednaekimXD:13:11
whipok,13:11
whipnow i can choose13:11
whiplocal parallel13:11
whipfor what is the "printerclass"?13:11
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nosrednaekimdon't worry about that.13:12
whipyep,13:13
whipbut i'm interested in it, what it is ;)13:13
whipa cluster of printers?13:13
parasitand i need download headers isn13:13
whipor what?13:13
whip;)13:13
nosrednaekimwhip: yeah.... something like that13:13
whipnorednaekim, thank you for help13:13
nosrednaekimparasit: after updating that, yes.13:14
whipgonna reboot, and deactivate iptables, and try the whole thing again ;)13:14
whipthank you ;)13:14
bazhangis kubuntu hardy now topic in #ubuntu +1 the alpha just came out :}13:14
nosrednaekimYW13:14
whipgonna hear us again ;)13:14
parasitI khow about some text file with this files i can change it :)13:15
parasit?13:15
stdinbazhang: hardy has been on-topic in +1 since the tool-chain was uploaded13:15
parasitsorry with setting of server adresses13:15
nosrednaekimparasit: /etc/apt/sources.list13:15
nosrednaekim!source-o-matic13:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic13:16
bazhangstdin: thanks! just didn't want to be #off-topic :}13:16
nosrednaekimstdin: is it possible for you to package up pykde4?13:17
parasitand last question do anybody know any good downloader  and how it works :)13:17
nosrednaekimwget?13:18
nosrednaekimkget..13:18
stdinnosrednaekim: don't know, haven't even looked at it yet13:18
RugerG'day.13:18
RugerWould anyone here mind helping me choose an OS?13:18
ardchoilleparasit: kget is nice for a gui downloader13:18
Rugeror distro rather13:18
nosrednaekimstdin: I think its in svn.... t'would be very helpful for me.13:18
nosrednaekimRuger: sure... what are your needs.13:18
ardchoilleRuger: I recommend kubuntu13:18
ere4si!kubuntu13:18
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE13:18
nosrednaekimduh ;)13:18
RugerNeeds to support the NIC card without finding drivers, and work on a 1.5ghZ with 256mb13:18
ardchoillehehe13:18
stdinnosrednaekim: packaging something from svn, with no dependency information... fun :/13:19
stdin:p13:19
nosrednaekimKDe should work there.13:19
RugerKDe?13:19
nosrednaekimstdin: heh :D, I don't think it has any deps besides KDeibs and python13:19
ardchoilleKde Desktop Environment13:19
Ruger*cough* Where can I find that?13:19
RugerAnd thanks.13:19
nosrednaekimRuger: have you ever used linux before?13:19
RugerYes.13:19
RugerNot much however.13:20
stdinnosrednaekim: I'll put it somewhere on my "look at doing before putting on my todo list"13:20
stdin...list13:20
ardchoilleRuger: Kubuntu uses KDE as the default DE13:20
nosrednaekimstdin: thanks :D13:20
parasitok thanks i'll be back13:20
RugerOkay, so just download the kubuntu iso..13:20
ardchoillestdin: So you have a ToDo list for your ToDo list?  ;)13:20
RugerIs there any specific version I need?13:20
nosrednaekimRuger: get the 7.10 x86 desktop.13:21
stdinardchoille: yeah, needed it because my ToDo list got so long :p13:21
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RugerOkay, will see if I can find it thank you.13:21
ardchoillestdin: lol13:21
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ardchoille!kubuntu | Ruger13:21
ubotuRuger: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE13:21
Ruger... I'm in #kubuntu =_=13:22
RugerSingle CD .iso? Very nice, the last ones I used were 4-5. . . I'll go do this, thank you kind sirs.13:22
whip_are u here again?13:22
nosrednaekimme?13:22
whip_yep13:22
whip_i know what the problem was ;)13:23
whip_if u wanna now13:23
nosrednaekimsure13:23
whip_i had configured my firewall13:23
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whip_and thats why the button was disabled,13:23
nosrednaekimah13:23
whip_cause cups couldn't create a connection13:23
whip_so for configuring the printer13:23
whip_i disabled my firewall,13:23
nosrednaekimwell, you should have just opened port 63113:24
whip_in kprinter i've selected "cups" as printer daemon13:24
whip_dann i normally configured the printer13:24
whip_and restarted with the old firerwall settings13:24
whip_and everything normally works and i can print,13:24
whip_so the old settings of the firewall are ok for printing,13:25
whip_but not for configuring a printer ;)13:25
whip_so you have to disable firewall for configuring a printer and make sure you are using cups13:25
whip_;)13:25
whip_yes i tried to open port 63113:25
whip_in both directions but,13:25
nosrednaekimwell.... good job :D13:25
whip_that where the problem was13:25
whip_i had to restart cupsys a couple of times13:25
whip_and it hung, and troubled ;)13:26
whip_so i think a firewall rule was it ;)13:26
whip_not only 631 ;)13:26
whip_i dont really know what it really was ;)13:26
whip_but the firewall made mistake's ;)13:26
whip_(:13:26
whip_do you know a blutooth sniffer?13:26
whip_in raw mode?13:27
nosrednaekimnope13:27
whip_or can i use every bluetooth stick13:27
nosrednaekimnot every one...13:27
nosrednaekim!hardware13:27
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport13:27
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dmHello. I'm running Kubuntu 7.10 with a very very old video card. Where can I reduce the color depth? (I want to try to increase the screen resolution.)13:47
Jucatohave you tried System Settings -> Monitor & Display?13:50
LynoureJucato: I waded through it just now and could not see it there... Weird.13:50
dmJucato: Yes, there seems to be no color depth option (yes, I'm in kdesu mode)13:50
Jucatoah I was thinking of refresh rate :/13:51
Jucatohm...13:51
LynoureI know xorg.conf has it, so why not in the gui...13:51
dmJucato: I found in xorg.conf htat there's only a "DefaultDepth 24" line ...13:51
* dm is gonna change it to 1613:51
Jucato!xconfig13:52
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes13:52
LynoureNothing wrong with editing the conf manually, if one feel comfy with that (and takes a backup of the old setup)13:53
Cool-Bananaz-29can firefox in kbuntu play ninemsn and msn.com website videos ?13:54
LynoureCool-Bananaz-29: what format are those in?13:55
Cool-Bananaz-29Lynoure: flash videos and win mediaplayer 1113:55
LynoureCool-Bananaz-29: most flash videos play if you have a flash plugin...13:56
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Lynouremediaplayer 11 is not format, though, so hard to say.13:56
dmJucato: Thank you. I changed the "DefaultDepth" line to 16 and now got a 1024x768 res w/ 16 bits; I'll try the dpkg cmd.13:57
Cool-Bananaz-29my x-crashes after i install propriety nvidia driver for my geforce2 64mb 400mx card and restart it and idea whats happening?13:57
Cool-Bananaz-29my x-crashes after i install propriety nvidia driver for my geforce2 64mb 400mx card and restart it and idea whats happening?........i then have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure the generic driver(nv) which comes with kubuntu to use x-server13:59
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WaltzingAlongCool-Bananaz-29: when it does not load, check the x log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log  which will tell you exactly why the screen had not loaded14:08
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nonewmsgsi thought the "activation follows mouse" vs "click to activate window" was under system settings but i cant find it14:25
dick-richardsonIs the canonical repository available for gutsy yet?14:26
nonewmsgsi dont know herr richardson14:28
nonewmsgsi didn't know it was down?14:28
Radi01I am still sleeping/ Dont wake me up.14:35
BluesKajhowdy all :)14:36
Radi01snorz14:36
Radi01Hello.14:37
Radi01sudo apt-get uninstall ./bill gates14:38
WaltzingAlongdick-richardson: yes14:38
WaltzingAlongdick-richardson: deb     http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu     gutsy   partner main14:38
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dick-richardsonWaltzingAlong: Thank you!14:49
Radi01ya thanks that is a great link.14:51
nonewmsgshelp i was adjusting gamma and refresh rates and now i have this failsafe 640x480 rez14:51
nonewmsgsand i cant get to the bottom of any moniter window to hange it14:52
Eduardiyothe awn application it's develop to gnome or kde or is does'nt a problem :S15:01
nonewmsgsme and my old buddy dpkg reconfigure xorg xserver saved me15:02
Gibby69nonewmsgs: Try this from the Terminal window,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg15:03
nonewmsgsyeah i got it15:03
nonewmsgsbut when i did...the weird thing is it had all my default hscync and vrefresh rates filled in with the correct ones and this moniter doesnt pnp the right ones15:04
nonewmsgsand ive always had to manually type them in before and i selected advanced15:04
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nonewmsgswhen it first happend i tried to change my xorg.conf to the last saved one and it didn't help15:05
SatManUKguys if i wanna run kde4 along side kde 3 but don't want to install from the live cd which packages do i need to download from the mirror?15:06
SatManUK!kde415:06
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php15:06
jalberthello everybody!15:08
fortruthi want read out the characters between two word in one sentence. ??15:08
jalbertI have a quick question...15:09
Lynourejalbert: quicker still if you ask right away :)15:10
jalbertwell I want to create a root account15:11
stdinwhy?15:11
jalbertthat I can just log in to to make changesd15:11
stdin"sudo -i"15:11
jalbertso I dont have to keep typing my password15:11
stdinyeah, "sudo -i"15:11
jalbertsudo -i?15:11
BluesKajhow do I get rid of my alter ego in the nicklist the one with underscore ? I've already edited it out of second choice nick.15:11
jalbertok15:11
stdinbit late but...15:12
stdin!ghost15:12
ubotuOn IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>15:12
BluesKajI tried the ghost cmnd but it obviously doesn't apply here15:12
stdinshould work as long as they are both registered15:13
BluesKajyeah stdin , I see what goes ...the _ isn't registered and i took it out of my choice list15:14
jalbertok one mre thing...15:14
guevqualcuno che ha dimestichezza con gcc e freeradius15:15
stdin!it | guev15:15
ubotuguev: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!15:15
jalbertevery time I log in, it resumes my session15:15
BluesKaj!it15:15
jalbertI'd prefer it not do that15:15
guevok15:15
jalbertisn't there a session initialization file I can edit or something?15:16
stdinjalbert: system settings > advanced > session manager,  choose "start with an empty session"15:16
Jucatojalbert: System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Session Manager15:16
Jucatobah... too slow ;(15:16
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stdinno cookie for you :p15:16
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Jucatostdin: get your other IRC cloak soon :)15:17
stdinJucato: heh, yeah. when someone with freenode-foo is about :)15:17
jalbertok thanks15:18
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Norgurhi15:20
CPrgmSwR2My kaudiocreator crashed and I had 5 cd's in queue to be encoded.... now I have to re-read those five cds why doesn't it resume those jobs?15:21
SatManUK!apt15:23
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)15:23
SatManUK!aptrecover15:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aptrecover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:24
sMonkHow do you mount your HD's under the Live CD?15:24
BluesKaj!adeptfix | SatManUK15:24
ubotuSatManUK: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:24
SatManUKthanks15:24
BluesKajyw15:24
ahmad3d acceleration is not working on ati mobility x160015:25
krautmoin15:25
stdinsMonk: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions15:25
ahmadalthogh i istalled ati driver15:26
hcboxi got an user who disapear but still here with a fresh install, how can i remove it ?15:26
ahmadany one help15:26
agn0stichcbox: remove the user? deluser username15:29
agn0stichcbox: in a terminal.15:29
hcboxah thanks ... spend 10 minutes seeking the commande : )15:29
hcboxtried remuser /remusr / removeuser :)15:29
agn0sticit can be hard to find commands sometimes!15:30
age11723d acceleration is not working good on ati mobilty x1600 although driver was instlled15:30
age1172help please15:30
waylandbillit's not hard to find commands. Try apropos sometime.15:31
age1172because i start to change my mind about using kubuntu because of a lot of problems15:32
waylandbillapropos user shows me that there is userdel and deluser.15:32
BluesKajage1172, on gutsy ?15:32
age1172yes15:32
age1172BluesKaj: yes15:33
age1172BluesKaj: also no sound15:33
jhutchinsage1172: Look, we really don't care if you use *ubuntu or Windows or OSX, it says more about you than it says about the systems.15:33
jhutchinsage1172: You should know that until very recently ATI was very bad about cooperating with open source projects, and their 3D performance in Linux is way behind other manufacturers.15:34
jhutchinsage1172: They have recently begun to cooperate more though, so things might be improving.15:34
age1172jhutchins: what about sound15:35
age1172reatek HD is incooperative also15:36
jhutchinsWe're just other people, most of whom use kubuntu, and some of whom may have seen your problem before.15:36
m477how upgrade wine ?15:37
NickPrestam477, which  version do you have? (Type: wine --version)15:38
m4779.33 NickPresta15:38
m477ops 9.4915:38
NickPrestam477, well, 0.9.49 is the latest (stable) version, I believe. They have snapshot 0.9.50 available if you want to compile it yourself. To add the wine repo, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb15:40
m477NickPresta: or maybe do you know how open bat files in wine ?15:40
jhutchinsage1172: Looks like this sound chipset is a problem in Windows as well.  This may be helpful: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/sound-not-working-with-hdaintel-realtek-hd-under-ubuntu-dapper-514492/15:41
NickPrestam477, nope, can't say that I do. You might just want to open up the BAT file in a text editor and try to recreate the program in BASH or something15:41
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Alikusanyone know what is the qt version on kubuntu 7.10?15:44
JackWinterare there instruction for installing the kde enviroment on ubuntu-studio?15:44
m477NickPresta:  i dont know how to do that15:44
stdinAlikus: which one, 3 or 4?15:45
Alikus415:45
stdin4.3.2-0ubuntu3.115:45
stdin(so 4.3.2 base version)15:46
m477how check what version kubuntu i have  ?15:46
stdin!version | m47715:46
ubotum477: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell15:46
JackWinter"apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"?15:47
LynoureJackWinter: I have not used ubuntu-studio, but for ubuntu that would work15:48
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WaltzingAlongJackWinter: that would do it though i would recommend using sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop       instead15:48
agn0sticWaltzingAlong: In your opinion, what's the benefit of aptitude over apt-get?15:50
JackWinteror may synaptic?  so many options ;-)  i tried once to install ubuntu-desktop on my kubuntu, and ended up with a not very well working gnome desktop.  didn't spend uch time on fixing it though ;-)15:50
Alikusstdin: tnx a lot :)15:51
JackWinteryeah, me too interested in benefits of using aptitude!15:51
WaltzingAlong!aptitude | agn0stic15:51
ubotuagn0stic: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide15:51
WaltzingAlongJackWinter: ^^ see above15:52
chxis there a kio slave for svn?15:53
chxi tried to google...15:53
stdinchx: yes15:53
chxstdin: care to elaborate a bit?15:53
stdinchx: it's "svn://" :)15:53
chxhaha15:54
chxis there some docs...?15:54
chxis it readonly, or i can commit somehow?15:54
stdinnot sure, I only ever use it to browse15:54
chxhttp://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/kioslave/15:54
chxI look here15:54
chxand nothing15:54
stdintry #kde15:54
m477NickPresta:  i did it a few times and didnt change version15:55
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smookerhi ppls16:23
smookercani ask questions about ubuntu here ? :)16:23
NickPrestasmooker, join #ubuntu16:24
smooker10z16:24
smooker10x :)16:24
jordinateursalut16:24
jordinateurya du monde ou quoi ??16:24
jordinateurooo trop dla balle16:24
NickPresta!fr | jordinateur16:24
ubotujordinateur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.16:24
jordinateurj'arrive enfin à me connecter à internet !16:24
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smookerhey all, i got problems with installing Kubuntu on my PC, seems it doesnt detect the my SATA hdd16:43
smookeri dont see any hdd on the installation ..16:43
SatManUKsmooker: stupid question but it is seen by the bios ?16:47
smookeryes, it is16:48
smookeri have installed ubuntu16:49
smookeron the pc16:49
DECUSgeekthe driver probably isn't in the initrd image.16:49
smookerbut i cant install kubuntu16:49
DECUSgeekSame versions of Ubuntu and Kubuntu?16:50
smookerno16:50
smookerkubuntu was 7.10 ubuntu was older16:50
smookeri love kubuntu :)16:51
jhutchinssmooker: The difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the desktop/GUI environment.  Hardware handling is pretty much the same.16:51
smookerhmm, i dont know :S i tryed 10 times to lookup the hdd but no hdd detected with kubuntu16:51
SatManUKsmooker: can't you just install ubuntu and then sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop16:51
SatManUKsmooker: can't you just install ubuntu and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop16:51
smookeratm i have problems with Xserver on ubuntu16:52
smookerbut ill try in safe mode16:52
SatManUKthen if necessary i guess you can sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop after if you wanted.16:52
SatManUKstrange..16:52
jordinateurSorry but I need just to know how to open a new tab to kubuntu.fr please16:52
SatManUKit just works on my pc - my pc is only 3 weeks old and has never known anything else :)16:52
NickPrestato get pure KDE, you would do !purekde16:52
matttishi16:53
NickPrestahi16:53
jordinateuryo16:53
matttishow do i create a konquerer link to my home dir ?16:53
NickPrestamatttis, like on your Desktop?16:53
galathalionis xmms2 the new xmms or what+16:53
matttisNickNak: i got no such link16:54
jordinateurokay I've find16:54
jordinateurgood bye16:54
matttisbye16:54
jordinateuro no16:54
jordinateurI don't have find -_-"16:54
jordinateurthere's noone in the channel16:54
jordinateurI don't understand how to open a new tab to speak with frenchs16:55
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jhutchinsjordinateur: /join #kubuntu-fr16:55
NickPrestamatttis, right click on your Desktop, Create New > Link to Application > Fill in the name and change the icon if you want. Then on the Application tab, in the command box, put "konqueror ~"16:55
SatManUKjordinateur: which program are you running usually just type /j channel name works16:55
jhutchinsNickPresta: ~/16:55
SatManUKie /j kubuntu.fr16:56
jembougegood evening everyone16:56
matttisthanks,16:56
jordinateurokay there's a "-" not a point between kubuntu and fr ! thank you bye16:56
SatManUKno problem arreviour16:56
jordinateurarreviour ?16:57
SatManUKmaybe i spelt it wrong16:57
SatManUKgood bye in french16:57
DECUSgeekAu revoire?16:57
matttisaurevori16:57
SatManUKwhatever16:57
matttisAu revoir  i mean16:57
SatManUKi dropped french when i was 13..16:57
SatManUKits been about 18 years since i last learned it so..16:58
jembougeHi there, I have a problem with kdm (I guess) when I want to log in my box.16:58
smookeris there any other good distro as Kubuntu ?16:58
jordinateurokay i understood that but i didn't know if you know the real word ;p16:58
smookerlike kubuntu i mean..16:58
SatManUKsmooker: i like opensuse but its too slow to download from my location.16:59
SatManUKopensuse.org16:59
jembougecan anyone tell my how to change the text size on kde's login screen?16:59
SatManUKthats backed my novell16:59
TheGateKeepersmooker, about 300+ at the last count lol16:59
DECUSgeekgood distro is in the mind of the beholder17:00
jembougeit's all so huge I don't know what I'm doing17:00
TheGateKeeperwhat do you want from your distro?17:00
smookerwhat u recomend ? :P17:01
smookerwhich *17:01
TheGateKeepersmooker, what do you want from your distro?17:01
SatManUKi like installable packages - be it rpm or deb or pcb (pc bsd) i don't like having to make compile and such things..17:01
SatManUKsmooker: i like OpenSuse myself but im using kubuntu because its supported here no other distro is (i guess debian would be as a lot of the deb files i guess will work on both17:02
SatManUK)17:02
DECUSgeekthat cuts out Gentoo and Slackware17:02
smookerwell... emulating some games like CS :) ... cool effects like uberul ..17:03
smookerberyl*17:03
TheGateKeeperquite a few distros are installing compiz-fusion by default17:04
jhutchinssmooker: http://distrowatch.org17:04
smookerbtw, anyone know which OS (except MAC and Winbozz) is the mostly used ? (sry my eng :) )17:06
bazhangsmooker: kubuntu and ubuntu17:07
smookerxD i think so :D17:07
TrillisYay, I'm back.17:07
llutzsmooker: desktop/server/mobile, used where?17:07
* Trillis wonders if stdn or viper is still here...17:08
smookerdesktop&alternate server.17:08
smookerbut now im looking only for desktop17:08
smookerfor now.. coz i have 1 more pc :P17:08
TrillisI have a question, perhaps someone call help me answer. Would it be possible to add a dual processor to my existing Dell?17:08
Trilliscan*17:09
franciscoalgun español aqui?17:09
smookerTrillis if your dell support upgrades.. , look at the web for your model :)17:09
jembougelo hablo solo un poquo si :)17:09
TrillisMi tu :-D17:10
Lynoure!es | francisco17:10
ubotufrancisco: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.17:10
jembougetienes tu respuesta17:10
jembouge:p17:10
TrillisHow do I find out the model of my PC oN Linux?17:10
smookeromg evryone here espanol xD17:10
smookerwhere is Kubuntu created ? :P17:10
Radi01kubuntu town17:11
smookerxD really ?17:11
TrillisI know the model is DHM...17:11
Lynouresmooker: online/everywhere, hard to put a more accurate location tag to it.17:12
smooker:)17:12
smookeri am tierd of Winbozz17:12
smookerand now i can run my server under Linux with more security :))17:13
smookermy ISP uses Linux and recomend for servers  :))17:13
TrillisLinux is confusing :(17:14
smookerwow i dont think so17:14
TrillisHehe, I just switched to it from winx.17:14
Trilliswinxp*17:14
smookerme too but since i was angry last year on Winxp i tryed ~10 Linux OS's17:15
TrillisI tried to install some drivers for a usb wireless device, and I spent all night in this chatroom with people helping me. <3. I had to configure all of this ndiswrapper, etc...17:15
emilsedghTrillis: linux is not confusing.its just differrent in some places17:15
smookerLinux is just not windows :))17:16
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TrillisHeheh, I'm a point-and click moron.17:16
emilsedghTrillis: please remember that this problem is caused by hardware vendors...17:16
TrillisHeheh, true.17:16
LynoureTrillis: it takes some getting used to, I bet, but be patient with the change :)17:16
TrillisThe only step I have remaning is I have to download something called Wine.17:16
smookerTrillis for me configuring is like hobby :P i love to program and go deeep in the *** at my PC heh :P17:17
emilsedghTrillis: why you want wine?17:17
TrillisI was trying to do a unshield x data3.cab or something like that in the console, and I continued to get "Aborted". So the people here told me to get wine and extract it from the exe file.17:18
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TimSTrills you shouldnt need wine to extract them17:20
TimSTrillis: just in ther terminal unzip <driver_archive>.exe17:21
Trillisthe konsole?17:21
TimSYeah17:21
Kr4t05If I'm not mistaken, I can rip audio from a video file using mplayer, right?17:21
tyfonthere is also a program called cabextract17:22
TrillisOh17:22
TrillisI had to use that.17:22
TimSWhat drivers are they Trills?17:22
llutzKr4t05: use -dumpaudio17:22
TrillisDrivers for D-Link DWA-130 Wireless N USB Adapter.17:23
smookeranyone know how do i terminate the X server ? (coz i need to install my nVidia Drivers)17:23
NickPrestaKr4t05, mplayer -dumpaudio something.mpg -dumpfile soemthing.mp317:23
NickPrestaKr4t05, something like that, I suppose17:23
smookerhow to exit from X server..17:23
smooker?17:23
Kr4t05NickPresta: Thanks.17:23
TimSRight, after you have unzip bla.exe, navigate therough the folders till your in a directory with a .inf file, then sudo ndiswrapper -i <your_ralink_driver>.inf17:24
TimSThen launch KnetworkApplet and it should work17:25
TrillisI got the driver to load in W(someword with W in the beginning)Wireless Drivers.17:25
TrillisBut it said "name.inf. Hardware installed: No".17:25
TimSIs ther hardware connected?17:26
smookeranyone ? how do i exit X server ?17:26
llutzsmooker: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop17:26
TrillisYou can't, it eats you alive. Cuz it is t3h ebil! :-o17:26
TimSsmooker: Log out and there should be an option to load a console17:26
TimSTrills run sudo ndiswrapper -I and tell me the output17:27
TrillisIt'll take a minute.17:27
TrillisAnd yes.17:27
TimSOkay17:27
TrillisI had the hardware plugged in.17:27
TimSCool17:27
TimSndiswrapper -l sorry, its a lowercase L17:28
francescoit17:31
francesco!it17:31
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!17:31
Trillisk17:32
TrillisIt gave me a bunch of options.17:32
Trillis-i -d -e -l -m17:32
TrillisTimS?17:34
Trillisoh17:34
Trillislowercase l..17:34
TimSYou want ndiswrapper -l17:34
TimSYeah17:34
TrillisIt said netsmf430 or something like that "invalid driver" or something17:36
TimSHmm odd, seems it diddnt install properly, are you sure you installed the correct driver for your device?17:37
Trillisnope17:38
TrillisI think this was the problem...17:38
Kr4t05Okay, next question.17:39
TrillisOh yeah, then he gave me a link that had the drivers from the site, and I extracted them, then I used cabex something to install one of them, the we tried the unshield x data3.cab and it got the Aborted error, thats when he told me to get Wine.17:39
TimSWell Wine is in the reppos but I dont see how it could help. If hes still arround just carry on with what he said and see where it gets you17:40
Kr4t05I have a directory in my home folder that has a large number of empty folders within it. Rather than go through by hand and remove the empty folders, I want a more efficient (read: lazy) method. I know that it would involve 'fine',17:40
Kr4t05'find'*, 'rmdir', and a loop or two.17:40
Trillishm...k17:41
Kr4t05What's the best/safest way to do this?17:41
TimSIm not really sure what he has in mind as Ive never seen wine used for this before17:41
TimSKr4t05: find * -size 0? See how many that gives you17:43
TimSMake sure your in the right directory obviously17:43
TimSCheck through the list to see if they are all folders17:43
Kr4t05TimS:" find -empty" does what I want it to.17:44
TimSAh17:44
TimS-delete?17:44
Kr4t05TimS: Doesn't seem to work.17:45
TimSHmm17:45
NickPrestaKr4t05, perhaps: find . -type d -empty -print0 | xargs rmdir17:45
TimSKr4t05: Odd it worked for me17:46
Kr4t05rmdir: Missing operand17:46
tyfonfind . -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \;17:46
TimSfind -empty -delete works fine here, Although i cant see why you wouldnt have rmdir17:47
Kr4t05Hrm...17:47
Kr4t05tyfon: Doesn't seem to work.17:47
tyfonthats odd17:47
NickPrestaKr4t05, what doesn't work? it doesn't find the dir? it doesn't delete?17:48
Kr4t05"find -empty -delete' doesn't give any errors, but the empty folders are still there.17:48
Kr4t05Same for tyfon's command.17:48
NickPrestaKr4t05, I just tried `find . -type d -empty -print0 | xargs rmdir` and it worked for me. *shrugs*17:49
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TimSKr4t05: do you have permission to delete?17:49
Kr4t05Maybe I'm using a bad shell?17:49
Kr4t05TimS: Yeah.17:50
TimSrun it with sudo, just to see17:50
Kr4t05Nothing.17:50
ilor_Kr4t05: what does "find -type d -empty" print?17:51
NickPrestaKr4t05, echo $SHELL17:51
Kr4t05Ni17:52
Kr4t05NickPresta: /bin/bash17:52
NickPrestaKr4t05, me too. Strange.17:52
Wilde_SehnsuchtKr4t05: may be this: http://tinyapps.org/weblog/nix/200711070700_delete_empty_directories.html could help?17:52
Kr4t05ilor_: No output.17:52
ilor_Kr4t05: are you positive there *are* empty directories?17:52
ilor_go into one and ls -lA17:53
NickPrestaKr4t05, do what I did: mkdir emptydir && find emptydir/ -type d -empty -print0 | xargs rmdir17:53
NickPrestaKr4t05, if that doesn't work, something's wrong17:53
Kr4t05Well, emptydir is gone.17:54
n215I installed kubuntu couple mins ago. sound card seems installed but i cant hear no voice17:57
nosrednaekimn215: unmute all channels in kmix17:58
nosrednaekimn215: you mean like from a microphone?17:58
eljefe_I want to remote-control a friend's computer with x11vnc.  However, she isn't on a public IP; I am and have my router all set up for it.  How can she reverse her x11vnc (server) to give my IP as a listening (client) address?  From what I've done, the client has to give the server address, and I want to do the opposite.17:58
n215no, when i play song i cant hear it17:58
n215i plugged speakers in green hole17:59
n215thats how it was before17:59
nosrednaekimn215: ok, unmute all channels in kmix and max all of their volumes.17:59
n215ok17:59
n215what Master channel supposed to be17:59
n215?17:59
NickPrestaKr4t05, http://pastebin.com/m474d798417:59
nosrednaekimn215: thats the one that is changed when you scroll over the icon.17:59
Kr4t05I dunno...18:01
Kr4t05I'll just do it by hand.18:01
XBehavesome muppet just hardlinked a file, is there anyway i could undo this fools mistake?18:01
ilor_eljefe_: ssh tunnel18:02
katiaHi18:02
eljefe_ilor_: i know, but I don't kow how...18:02
katiacan someone help me?18:02
nosrednaekimkatia: whats the problem?18:02
n215nosrednaekim,  everything is on18:03
katiaI install kubuntu one minute ago, but I cant use the browser18:03
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nosrednaekimn215: still no sound?18:03
nosrednaekimn215: what are you using for playing music?18:03
ilor_eljefe_: have the friend ssh into your box with ssh -R someport:localhost:vncport18:03
n215what about Select master channel representing  the master volume ?18:03
n215amorak18:04
eljefe_ssh -l 5500:localhost:5500 user@pu.bl.ic.ip "x11vnc -display :0" ?18:04
nosrednaekimkatia: what does it say?18:04
katianosrednaekim: can you help me in privat?18:04
eljefe_ilor_:  ^^ ?18:04
nosrednaekimkatia: its better here.18:04
ilor_for instance18:04
katiaok nosrednaekim18:04
ilor_then you connect your client to loocalhost:someport18:04
nosrednaekimn215: right click on the kmenu main window and click "channels"make sure they are all enabled.18:04
katiathe browser don't surf the web18:05
ilor_eljefe_: thats ssh -R not -l18:05
nosrednaekimn215: is the equalizer animation showing "sound"  in amarok?18:05
n215yes it is18:05
eljefe_ilor_: ok so she would run:  ssh -R 5500:localhost:5500 user@pu.bl.ic.ip "x11vnc -display :0"18:05
n215if i plug thingy in another hole i can hear music18:05
nosrednaekimkatia: are you talking from this same computer?18:06
n215but it sound weird18:06
katianosrednaekim: yes18:06
n215lots of noises18:06
eljefe_will that run the x11vnc program after/as part of the SSH?18:06
ilor_eljefe_: she should star the vnc server18:06
nosrednaekimn215: do you have a 5 channel audio card?18:06
n215yes18:06
ilor_then ssh into your box with the -R stuff18:06
nosrednaekimkatia: you're not using wireless are you?18:06
katianosrednaekim: yes i am using wireless connection18:07
underdog5004I need a remote desktop server that uses rdp...any suggestions?18:07
n215i think its supposed to be plugged in green18:07
n215cuz thingy is green too18:07
nosrednaekimkatia: oh.... hmm.18:07
n215i have 2 speakers lil ones18:07
nosrednaekimn215: yeah, it is....18:07
ptakmenhi guys! kubuntu freezes right after X's loaded, why may it be so?18:07
nosrednaekimkatia: easiest way is probably just to run "sudo apt-get install firefox"  and forget about konqueror.18:08
n215red dot means muted right?18:08
katianosrednaekim: okkkkkkkkk thanks but how can I download it?18:09
weswh-is there any quicktime plugin for firefox?18:09
eljefe_ok, so this would be two seperate terminals running then?18:09
eljefe_ilor_: ok, so this would be two seperate terminals running then?18:09
nosrednaekimn215: I think thats only for input  channels18:09
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dPixhi18:09
katianosrednaekim: wich is the command I have to use?18:09
ilor_eljefe_: taht would do18:09
nosrednaekimkatia: run that command from a terminal. "sudo apt-get install firefox"18:09
Radi01win 32 coedcs have quick time18:09
dPixkubuntu gets freezed when I start COMPIZ-FUSION18:10
dPixit works for 10 seconds and freezes18:10
weswh-radio1 - is there a repo for that you know of?18:10
Radi01Are you using it for browser?18:11
eljefe_ilor_: when I run the server on my own machine, it 'hangs' running until I close it.  How could I make this run, say in a script, and keep running, yet move onto the next command in the script?  use '&' at the end of the first?  or...?18:11
nosrednaekimdPix: any errors in the konsole you run it from?18:11
ilor_eljefe_: & will make it run in the background yes18:12
katianosrednaekim: i should download it but the terminal say me the file is obsolete18:12
dPixnosrednaekim: not really18:12
Do0oDz hello .. I'm on gutsy gibbon .. and having problems with amsn .. a couple of days while installing wine in the output I got that there are some packages that aren't used anymore so I autormoved them .. since then amsn doesnt give me sound alerts whenever a person gets online ....18:12
Radi01weswh18:12
nosrednaekimkatia: ah... just a second.18:13
dPixnosrednaekim: ive got 3d acceleration, i think error comes from emerald, i took off themes but still freazes and have to reboot18:13
katianosrednaekim: ok18:13
n215i dunno wut  to do18:14
n215it was working fine when i had a sub woofer and stuff like 2 yrs ago18:14
quigzanyone know if there is a way to program FPGA board in ubuntu i cant find adept suite for linux18:15
nosrednaekimkatia: run "sudo apt-get update"18:16
nosrednaekimquigz: hey.... my dad was wanting to do that.18:16
lockdquigz: openwince-jtag if it's jtag based18:18
lockdquigz: is it any specific fpga board?18:18
quigzyeah the nexys218:18
quigzi used adept suite in windows and it worked just fine18:19
quigzbut i couldnt assign package pins witht he ise webpack i installed in unbuntu18:19
katianosrednaekim: I do it than I write sudo ... firefox but the answer was the same18:19
nosrednaekim"sudo apt-get get firefox"?18:20
Dr_willisapt-get install firefox18:20
Dr_willis;)18:20
nosrednaekimAHHH! ehy do I ALWAYS mess up those apt commands :D18:21
Dr_willisalias agi='sudo apt-get intall '18:21
Dr_willis:)18:21
nosrednaekim:D18:21
quigzlockd: its a nexys 218:21
katianosrednaekim: i write "sudo apt-get install firefox"18:22
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mm_workAnyone else having problems with firefox locking up with 7.10?18:22
nosrednaekimkatia: and whats the EXACT error?18:22
nosrednaekimcut and paste please.18:22
lockdquigz: i know very little about microcontrollers. I always thought you 'just' compiled for FPGAs18:23
katianosrednaekim:18:25
katiaIl pacchetto firefox non ha versioni disponibili, ma è nominato da un altro18:25
katiapacchetto. Questo significa che il pacchetto manca, è diventato obsoleto18:25
katiao è disponibile solo all'interno di un'altra sorgente18:25
katiaE: Il pacchetto firefox non ha candidati da installare18:25
katianosrednaekim: I am italian18:25
nosrednaekimkatia: :D there is an italian channel18:25
quigzlockd: well what i ahve to do is write the verilog then synthesize (complie) then simulate it to "test" it then you have to assign the pins the board uses. i cant seem to get ise webpack to load the program in linux that  assigns the pins once that is done you create a binary file then use adept suite to load that binary file to the board18:25
katianosrednaekim: really? where?18:25
katianosrednaekim:  hihi sorry...18:25
nosrednaekimkatia: I think you need to enable all of your repositories18:25
nosrednaekim!it18:25
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!18:26
katiaok18:26
lockdnot sure if any sane human uses Verilog these dasy18:26
lockddays18:26
katianosrednaekim: thank you very much for your help18:26
katiabye bye18:26
nosrednaekimkatia: sorry I couldnt help more18:27
ilor_how to make Kaffeine always change volume with mousewheel and not fwd/rew with it?18:27
eljefe_ilor_: when I run the reverse ssh on a local test machine, I get "Connection refused" ssh -R 5900:localhost:5900 user@pu.bl.ic.ip18:27
ilor_check first if you can ssh into your box18:28
eljefe_i can18:29
eljefe_ok, so if I run it with the public IP I am refused, but if I run it with the local 192.168.1.xxx IP i can do it fine18:29
eljefe_but I know that I can do it to the public, since I do it every day from work (but not reverse)...18:29
eljefe_ilor_: i think you can change the Kaffeine volume if you just scroll over the volume slider18:30
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sigma_anyone know where to find some decent 1280*1024 kubuntu wallpaper?18:30
ilor_eljefe_: I know. But I'm used yo windows mplayerclassic behaviour, where the wheel changes the voiume regardless of where the cursor is18:31
eljefe_hmm not sure then18:31
ilor_plus, in minimal mode there's no slider18:31
bazhangsigma_: kde-look.org18:31
sigma_bazhang: tried that, stuff is pretty weak18:32
sigma_does anyone know where i can get a dvd copy of the ubuntu repositories?18:32
bazhangsigma_: what are you looking for?18:32
quigzanyone know if there is a way to program FPGA board in ubuntu i cant find adept suite for linux18:33
sigma_bazhang: just some wallpaper with the kubuntu + kde logo's but it must be 1280*1024 so i dont have to scale it18:33
bazhangsigma_: why not create your own? :}18:34
nosrednaekimsigma_: search on that site for "kubuntu"18:34
bazhangsigma_: gimp can make that boring stuff way cool18:34
sigma_bazhang: too much effort involved!18:34
bazhangsigma_: not really--just two layers and you have some amazing stuff--takes all of two minutes18:35
n215i need to add some script in startup how i do it? i want it to load after modem is recognized and its firmware loaded18:35
Ace2016hey the alpha of ubuntu 8.04 is out18:35
Ace2016called Hardy Heron18:36
nosrednaekim!autostart18:36
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.18:36
n215heroin18:36
Ace2016i swear someone got the idea after me, i called it hardy hardon18:36
nosrednaekimAce2016: yup... its unstable18:36
sigma_Ace2016: where about?18:36
n215Ace2016,  u lying18:36
Ace2016http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/30/ubuntu-8-04-hardy-heron-alpha-1-officially-released18:36
Ace2016not lying18:36
quigzis that the tribe release for hardy?18:37
nosrednaekimquigz: yeah18:37
Ace2016its really released and i did call it that along with sleazy slapper and other fun names which are nsfw18:37
sigma_does anyone know how to make firefox look like kde? kde should dump konq as a browser and just use firefox18:37
Ace2016use qtcurve as your theme18:38
eljefe_is there any way I can embed into a bash script the ability to mouse-click it to open?  Or does that have to be set in KDE?18:38
Jucato!kde firefox18:38
ubotuGo to http://konquefox.free.fr/ for tips and tricks on making Firefox more KDE-friendly.18:38
sigma_Jucato: is there really such a thing?18:39
quigzwhat does the red text in the irc channel mean?18:39
sigma_ubotu: that link doesn't work18:39
Ace2016but i think qtcurve is better than gtk-qt18:39
Jucatosigma_: there is, but looks old..18:39
dPixhey18:39
Ace2016quigz: it means you made a spelling error or i'm addressing you with my message18:39
eljefe_ubotu is a bot, not a preson.  google for it tho, i've used the site and tips.18:39
* Jucato thinks there's a more recentone18:39
dPixhow do I open SAMBA? I have it installed but can't find it18:40
sigma_jucato: where about?18:40
Ace2016 /etc/init.d/samba restart18:40
Jucatosigma_: um.. search for it. I don't know. I don't use Firefox18:40
flaccid!samba18:41
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT18:41
Dr_willisopen? What do ya mean by open. Its a service. you access.18:41
flaccidsmb.conf workgroup likes to get removed in kubuntu for some reason18:41
dPixthanks18:41
eljefe_Can I create a runscript.desktop file which will have an icon etc and when clicked it will call a bash script and run that (in a terminal, I would bet) ?18:42
Dr_willisflaccid,  oh? I never see that issue. Wonder if its one of the gui config tools doing it.18:42
flaccidthats what i thought18:42
Jucatosigma_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntegrateFirefoxWithKD and http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Integrate_Firefox_with_KDE (just apply to Kubuntu because it's for Gentoo)18:42
Dr_williseljefe_,  should be able to.18:42
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flaccidbut it does it by itself18:42
flaccidhad it so many times18:42
Dr_williseljefe_,  just make a normal bash script.18:42
eljefe_I have the script, Dr_willis, but clicking it doesn't run it.18:42
flaccidheya Jucato :)18:42
Dr_willisflaccid,  cant say that ive ever seen it do that. but i normally edit the config by hand.  Ill keep an eye out however.18:42
Jucatohi flaccid18:42
eljefe_I want to make it non-CLI for a friend18:43
Dr_williseljefe_,  checkits properties perhaps? it may have a run in terminal option.18:43
flaccidyeah i always do by hand because i do servers and sometimes corporate networks. its just unfortunate from a client point of view. i should do !bugs18:43
Dr_willisI rarely click on scripts  :)18:43
flaccid!sdl18:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:43
flaccid!sdk18:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sdk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:44
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about develop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:44
flaccidsorry18:44
Jucatoahem?18:44
eljefe_Dr_willis: nope.18:44
flaccidsounds he wants to make qt apps heh18:44
Dr_williseljefe_,  could make a script that runs 'xterm -e yourotherscript' :)18:45
eljefe_Dr_willis: agreed, not a smart thing to be doing (click on scripts)... but it would be nice.18:45
sybuxhi all18:45
eljefe_Thats still a script tho, with CLI use18:45
Dr_willisI imagine theres a neater way.18:45
eljefe_yeah i would like to find it.18:45
Jucatoeljefe_: try taking a look into kdialog18:45
eljefe_what is that?  install it or a part of KDE already?18:46
Dr_willistheres a create launcher  wizard thing. could check it out -  I may be thinking of that18:46
Jucatopart of KDE already18:46
flaccidkdesudo is also cool, i like18:46
sybuxI've just installed compiz-fusion and I'd like to restablish my old parameter. I was looking for having my desktop on a 4 face cube but I only got a rotating desktop of 2 virtual desktop18:46
Jucatoflaccid: amazing. you're one of the few dozen who do :P18:46
flaccidserious18:47
Jucatoyeah. seriously18:47
eljefe_whats bad about kdesudo ?18:47
flaccidwhy do they not like18:47
Jucatohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/15503218:47
* flaccid goes to look18:47
* eljefe_ follows flaccid18:48
Dr_williscreate new -> link to application -> make it run 'xterm -e yourscript' :) worked for me.18:48
Jucatoit brings in a lot more bugs than what it tried to solve.18:48
Dr_willisof course once the script ends the xterm auto closes.18:48
Jucatoif you just need a simple launcher for the bash script? yeah, just Create a link to application, then copy the .desktop file that it produces18:48
flaccidhmm thats pretty detailed18:49
Dr_willisunless he watns to see the output in a terminal18:49
JucatoDr_willis, eljefe_: there's an option to Run in terminal and Do not close when command exits18:49
Dr_willisJucato,  where? im not seeing that.18:49
JucatoApplication tab, Advanced Options button18:50
eljefe_me either, Jucato18:50
sigma_i disabled the openoffice splash screen but forgot how to re-enable it, how do i do this?18:50
Dr_willisIm richg clicking on test.desktop and going to its properties18:50
eljefe_Right-click > Properties (on a script) doesn't have Application tab18:50
Jucatoright-click -> Create New -> Link to Application. Applicaton tab -> Advanced options button at the bottom18:50
sybuxnobody can help my with compiz-fusion ?18:51
Jucatosybux: try asking in #compiz-fuson18:51
Jucatoer..18:51
Jucato#compiz-fusion18:51
sybuxok thx18:51
eljefe_AH! thanks, make a link.  Good thinking... can I somehow email that link in a tar file also, and hav it work on another computer?18:51
Jucatoeljefe_: you could. just make sure that the path to the command/script is correct when you transfer it18:52
Dr_willisheh - I KNEW i saw that somewhere.. :)18:52
Jucato:)18:52
eljefe_both in ./ would work eh?18:52
eljefe_thanks guyts18:52
dPixhow do i configure SAMBA?18:54
dPixwhat CMD?18:54
eljefe_seriously i love these forums/IRCs. Super friendly and addicting.  Thank you ilor_ Jucato and Dr_willis for the help!18:54
Jucato:)18:54
dPixeljefe_, que nivel de gente se encuentra con este SO18:54
eljefe_todos niveles hombre18:55
pierrethHello, I am sorry to ask this again but I had a system trash. What is the command to use in the termial to open files like Konqueror would did?18:55
eljefe_Maybe open .Trash ?18:56
eljefe_in a terminal, cd .Trash/18:56
eljefe_know that KDE has a .Trash but if you delete in a command line / terminal, its gone FOREVER18:56
pierrethxdg-open18:57
pierreththank you18:58
sigma_can someone email me the konquefox file?19:00
sigma_i can't access the website19:00
eljefe_which file?19:01
sigma_no prob i got it19:01
eljefe_ah ok19:01
eljefe_the Up button is the best flippin button, no idea why its not available in Firefox already19:02
eljefe_its kinda ugly tho, doesn't *quite* fit in19:02
eljefe_too thin or soimethiung19:02
Dr_willisdPix,  you may want to isntall the 'samba-doc' package and read the 'using samba' book that it installs. (in /usr/share/doc/) i think. :)19:04
Dr_willisdPix,  Samba is a bit complex. but it  That book is A+ :)19:04
Dr_willisand its free.. gotta love free19:04
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ciperlonehello19:07
dPixDr_willis: ok19:07
dPixDr_willis: thx19:07
sigma_well guys hardy heron sure does sound promising19:07
ciperlonecan somebody help me?19:07
ciperlonei don't know how to make the expose effect in compiz-fusion. can someone help?19:08
sigma_hope the kubuntu version will live up to expections, hopefully there will be a kde4 option as part of the install process19:09
jhutchinsciperlone: There's a #compiz-fusion channel.19:09
smookerkde4 xD nice :)19:10
sigma_has anyone here tried kde4?19:11
sigma_oh yes the million $ question, does anyone know how to use the tv out on the ati radeon mobility 9000? i have a dell d600 laptop and its the one feature i really need to use that doesn't seem to work19:13
sigma_and does anyone know a good php wiki program besides phpwiki? one that can run on a apache server + php + mysql19:13
eljefe_how can I run a reverse-SSH tunnel without giving actually opening a remote shell?19:15
smookersigma_ what do u mean ? u need php mysql & apache pack or ?19:19
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dPixis samba so difficult to configure?19:27
dPixI can't even do a network here19:27
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dPixi give up19:32
dPixfckng SAMBA :(19:32
dPix!samba19:32
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT19:32
dPixany othen application similar to samba but easier to use?19:38
smookerhow do i move to folder in the terminal ?19:39
jalbertdoes anybody here use Kopete?19:40
jembougeI used to use kopete19:40
jembougecan I help? (or try to?)19:40
jalbertok for some reason it won't connect, and I cannot restart it19:40
jalbertwhen I try to close it, nothing hapens19:41
jembougehave you tried to kill its process?19:41
jembougeand then restart it19:41
jalbertone sec19:41
lockddoes anyone know how to get Konqueror to use WebKit instead of KHTML?19:43
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lockdanyone know, or is that just impossible to change Konqueror's renderer19:49
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hydrogenlockd: it is not possible19:50
lockdhydrogen: is it an inherent flaw in Konqueror, or because it's a qt4 library?19:52
hydrogenlockd: its not a flaw, its because webkit-qt is still wayyy early in development and no one has the interest to replace khtml with webkit yet19:53
jalberthow can I kill Kopete?19:54
lockdhydrogen: is webkit-qt actually a webkit frontend, or another port?19:54
denishi19:54
jembougejalbert :19:54
jembougectrl + escape19:55
denischannel Kubuntubr?19:55
jembougefind it in the list and kill button19:55
lockdif it's just another port, konqueror probably does need a way to easily replace the rendering engine. for instance Gecko with pages that require it19:55
hydrogenlockd: http://dot.kde.org/1152645965/19:55
hydrogenlockd: no, that would be silly19:55
deniskde4 on Kubuntu 7.1019:55
smookeranyone know how to obtain write access to /bin dir on my account ?19:55
jembougesmooker: use a chmod or chown19:56
smookerbut how exactly ?19:56
lockdhydrogen: being able to choose what to render what files with would be silly?19:56
jembougeyou know, go to you folder's parent folder19:56
lockdhydrogen: or documents, or pages...19:56
jembougein a konsole19:56
jalbertjembouge: thaks19:57
hydrogenlockd: the renderer is usually tied very closely to the shell19:57
jalbert*thanks*19:57
jembougejalbert: cool :)19:57
hydrogento write a shell that wouldn't would result in an overall decrease in performance19:57
jembougesmooker: say the folder you want to change is "blah"19:57
jembougethen you do a   "  chmod xxxxxxxx  blah"19:58
jembouge(but I don't remember the stuff19:58
jalbertI restarted Kopete, so how do I connect to multiple accounts at once19:58
cybrhumanI got a tricky CD which is both Mac and Windows, it mounts as mac it seems, because I cant find any install.exe only datafiles and some files I think Is for OSX. Do anyone know how I get to the windows files?19:58
jembougejust allow me five minutes, and also look " chmod --help "19:58
Lynouresmooker: Why do you want write access to /bin?19:58
lockdhydrogen: i've always heard make it work, then make it works fast.. but what do I know19:59
Lynouresmooker: if you just want to change something manually there now and then, use sudo for that...19:59
jembougejalbert: you go into the settings/preferences and register your accountS19:59
ksalhi19:59
jembougeif my memory serves, in every account's configuration window, you should have a box "connect automatically"20:00
smookerim trying to add single line to a file that i just created from root acc /bin/file20:00
jembougeif not, another simple way is to change your status to online :)20:00
ksalwhat should i install to compile apps?20:00
jembougewell, then no need to do all this  smooker20:00
smookerthen what i need to do ?20:00
jembougejust " sudo kate my_file "20:01
jembougeyou'll be like root and able to modify your file20:01
ksalwhat should i install to compile apps?20:01
jembougecompilers ;p20:01
ksal...20:02
ksalwhat exactly?20:02
ksalwhat packages20:02
smookerthanks it worked20:02
sybuxI got some problem runing kdmtheme manager in kcontrol.20:02
jembougeyeah, you'll have to ask other people cause I'm good at this20:02
trillisHm... To use wine, do I need install all the wine files from Adept manager?20:02
jembougesmooker : you're welcome ;)20:02
sybuxit says that it can't find the module20:02
sybuxbut I've run the apt-get install kdmtheme . what can I check more ?20:03
ksalWaltzingAlong: what should i install to compile apps?20:03
jembougeksal : probably gcc for C++20:04
jembougemaybe you could have a look for "compilers" in synaptic or adept20:04
jembougea choose the one you need20:04
ksalthx20:05
ksal:)20:05
smookerbtw, is there any good cpp compiler for linux ?20:05
trillisGrr...20:05
WaltzingAlongksal: build-essential20:05
smookerwhich u recomend :P20:05
WaltzingAlong!compiling20:05
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jembougetrillis : give me 5 minutes to have a look20:05
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)20:05
ksalshould i uninstall packages if it's the same app?20:06
WaltzingAlongsmooker: gnu g++20:06
jembougesmooker : I don't write code for linux yet (still discovering)20:06
trillisWell... I click on the Install.exe and the exe loads the installation shield but it closed as soon as it opened...20:06
WaltzingAlong!info build-essential | ksal20:06
ubotuksal: build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB20:06
jembougeso I can't really tell20:06
jalbertjembouge: I already have accounts, and I entered the usernames and passwords in the preferences20:06
ksali want to compile for myself newer version20:07
jembougejalbert : on your status image, click and choose "online"20:07
ksalor maybe someone kind would package it for me? :)20:07
smookerim thinking to move to linux from winx cpp..20:07
jalbertdoesn't eem to be doing anything20:07
jalbertnone of my contacts are appearing20:08
lockdis there a good tutorial for writing kioslaves? I'm trying to 'trick' konqueror to make xslt documents readable, instead of gibberish20:08
lockdbut xsltproc must be run over these20:08
bucatoamanohello a kommander script written in a 32 system can work into a 64 bit system ?20:08
Lynoureksal: a newer version of what?20:08
jembougejalbert: give me 3m to install it20:08
ksalLynoure: kadu20:08
jalbertI clicked "remember password", but it doesn't seem to have done thta20:08
trillisMy linux is acting like windows :(20:08
ksalbucatoamano: 32 bit apps can work on 64 bits, but not different20:09
ksali mean, 64 bit won't work on 3220:09
jembougejalbert: password are remembered.20:09
Lynouretrillis: how is that?20:09
bucatoamanoksal: ok thank very much20:09
jalbertjembouge: OK20:09
jalbertI would expect it to just connect to the proper servers and retrieve my contacts lists20:10
jalbertjembouge: I would expect it to just connect to the proper servers and retrieve my contacts lists20:10
jembougejalbert: setting up my accounts with kopete20:10
jalberthow are you doing that?20:11
jalbertI want to make sure I did it right20:11
jembougeI just installed kopete thanks to apt-get20:12
jembougethen launched it20:12
jembougeit asked me for account information20:12
jembougeI fille it in, and clicked ok20:12
jembougeit connected me alright,20:12
jembougeI've got my contacts20:12
jalberthmmm...20:13
jalbertmaybe I'll uninstall and then reinstall20:13
jembougewell... have a look in the setting menu20:13
trillisHey, whats the equivalent in linux of windows C:\Program Files?20:13
jembougethere a settings/preferences20:14
jembougein the window, choose the tab acounts20:14
jalbertjembouge: ok looking now20:14
jembougeyou probably did that already however20:14
jembougethen button "New"20:15
jalbertjembouge: settings > preferences?20:15
jalbertjembouge: I'm not seeing that.20:15
jembougewell... I'm translating so guessing...20:15
jembougeconfigure?20:15
jembougeset up?20:15
jalbertjembouge: Oh OK20:15
jalbertFrom French?20:15
jembougeyep20:16
jalbertjembouge: Configure, yes I see it20:16
jembougeok, then accounts tab, New button20:16
jalbertjembouge: my girlfriend speaks French20:16
jembougejalbert: did you do that earlier?20:17
jembougelol20:17
Kunukutrillis: There is no such thing in Linux (well not really)20:17
jalbertjembouge: I'll delete the ones that are already there20:17
trillisuhg20:18
trillisI have another problem...20:18
Kunukutrillis: if you want to find out wich programs are installed: use a package manager20:18
trillisI20:18
jalbertjembouge: OK done20:18
jalbertnow 'm re-entering my info, starting with AIM20:18
trillisI just installed the drivers from my CD for my USB wireless adapter.20:18
trillisI had to use Wine though.20:19
trillisNow my computer isn't reading my adapted when I plug it in.20:19
jalbertjembouge: The wizard opened up20:19
Kunukutrillis: no that will not work20:19
jalbertjembouge: I selected AIM20:19
trillis:(20:19
trillisCould you help me?20:19
KunukuThe only way to use windows drivers with Linux is with ndiswrapper20:20
Kunukutrillis: maybe :)20:20
trillisWhich I spent all last night getting.20:20
Kunukutrillis: what is the make and model of the adapter?20:20
jembougejalbert: afk 2min, I cut my thumb while beating my cat which was climbing the curtains, it's all bleeding bad20:20
trillisD-Link DWA-130 Wireless USB Adapter20:20
jalbertjembouge: entered my username, checked "remember password" and entered my password20:20
Kunukutrillis: have you got a console open?20:20
trillisYes.20:21
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jalbertok you know, I'll do this later20:21
Kunukutrillis: tail -f /var/log/messages20:21
jalbertjembouge: the gf wants to get out of the house and I'm here dicking around on the computer20:21
jalbertjembouge: ttyl20:21
Kunukutrillis: unplug your adapter20:22
trillisk20:22
jalbertjembouge: take care of that thumb, you don't want to get toxoplasmosis or anything! :P20:22
trillisI'm using an ethernet cord right now.20:22
jalbertjembouge: thanks for the help, catch you later20:22
Kunukutrillis: if figured :)20:22
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trillisHeheh.20:22
Kunukutrillis: hit return a few times so you get some space in the output20:23
Kunukutrillis: and plug the adapter back in20:23
Kunukutrillis: what does it say?20:23
trillisnew full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 420:23
trillis<320:23
Kunukutrillis: hmmm, that is not much20:24
trillisOh..:(20:24
Kunukutrillis: hit ctlr-c please20:24
trillisk20:24
Kunukutrillis: try20:25
Kunukutrillis: lsusb20:25
trillisCommand not found20:26
Kunukutrillis: are you sure?20:26
Kunukutrillis: I think this is pretty standard (not sure though)20:26
trillisJust type "Isusb"?20:26
Kunukuyup20:27
trillisL or I?20:27
Kunukutrillis: Ah :)20:27
Kunukutrillis:  L20:27
trillisaah20:27
trillisBuss 002 Device 001: id 0000:000020:27
Kunukutrillis: does it show anything that looks like your wireless adapter?20:28
trillisThen the middle one is different20:28
trillisYeah20:28
trillisBus 001 Device 004: ID 07d1:3b11 D-Link System20:28
Kunukutrillis: (Y)20:28
trillis?20:28
trillisWhats that?20:29
Kunukutrillis: I'll probably get killed for this: it's the thumbsup character combination in MSN20:29
Kunukutrillis: not that I ever use it ;)20:29
trillisHeheh, oh20:29
trillisNow what?20:29
trillis<< Linux nub20:30
Kunukutrillis: ask the lazyweb :)20:30
trillisWho?20:30
Kunukutrillis: google google20:30
trillisWhat am I asking it?20:30
Kunukutrillis:20:30
Kunukutrillis: Hang on I'm looking for it...20:30
trillisk20:30
WaltzingAlongKunuku: showed the thumbs up here (konversation with emoticons enabled)20:31
trillisShould I try and enable 'Windows Wireless Adapter"?20:32
trillisDrivers*20:32
WaltzingAlongtrillis: how so? through restricted manager?20:33
Kunukutrillis: Is that possible? :)20:33
senorpedroin which pakage is depmod?20:33
trillisYeah20:33
WaltzingAlongtrillis: sure20:33
WaltzingAlong!find depmod20:33
Kunukutrillis: you need ndsisrwrapper i guess20:33
ubotuFile depmod found in module-init-tools20:33
trillisThats what I have.20:34
WaltzingAlongsenorpedro: module-init-tools20:34
trillisThats how I was trying to install the drivers to make this work20:34
senorpedrothx WaltzingAlong20:34
Kunukutrillis: have you installed the drivers with ndiswrapper20:34
WaltzingAlong!ndiswrapper | trillis20:34
ubotutrillis: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs20:34
trillisNot sure.20:34
KunukuWaltzingAlong: is this adapter supported natively?20:35
trillisI don't think I have the right inf file loaded20:35
Kunukutrillis: ndiswrapper -l20:35
Kunukutrillis: that is a L ;)20:35
Kunukutrillis: or was it -i ? don't remember...20:35
trillishehe20:35
trillisinvalid driver20:36
Pitabred-i installs an inf, -l lists the installed ones20:37
WaltzingAlongKunuku: not that i know of - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported so download the windows xp driver from dlink, install ndiswrapper and ndisgtk if desired, add the windows driver, reboot20:37
trillisI have the D-link driver cd.20:37
trillisAnd I already downloaded the xp drivers.20:37
trillisI just don't know what I'm doing to instal them...20:37
WaltzingAlongtrillis: ok so you would have to use either the GUI with ndisgtk or type in konsole20:38
trillisGUI?20:38
trillis< nub20:38
WaltzingAlonggraphical user interface20:38
WaltzingAlongtrillis: maybe install ndisgtk package in adept manager20:39
trillisIs that the kdesu ndisgtk?20:39
WaltzingAlongotherwise we can walk you through the steps you need to type20:39
trillisI already installed that part.20:39
trillisI hit alt+f220:39
WaltzingAlongtrillis: open konsole20:39
trillisand I type if kdesu ndisgtk20:39
trillisk20:39
trillisT'is open.20:40
smookersomeone can recomend me a good firewall for server ? :)20:40
trillis<320:40
trillisTis a heart for you smooker.20:40
trillisI did something like cabexsomething20:42
smookertrillis i didnt understand u20:42
trillisIt's okay, I don't uinderstand myself sometimes.20:42
WaltzingAlongsmooker: firewall is iptables.20:42
WaltzingAlong!info guarddog | smooker20:42
ubotusmooker: guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB20:42
trillisWaltzingAlong: What should I do?20:43
smookeryeah i installed this20:43
WaltzingAlongtrillis: in konsole, type   ndiswrapper -l           (lower case L)20:43
smookerim trying some of thouse :)20:43
trillisInstalled ndis drivers:20:44
trillisnetmw245        invalid driver!20:44
WaltzingAlongtrillis: ok so that one does not work. by the way are you using 64bit?20:44
trillisDunno...20:45
trillisHow do I tell?20:45
WaltzingAlongin konsole, uname -a        will show probably i686 or x86_64 at the end20:45
WaltzingAlongor just uname -m20:45
trillisi686 GNU/Linux20:46
WaltzingAlongok. trillis are there other drivers on the cd?20:46
trillisYes.20:46
Kunukubye20:46
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WaltzingAlongKunuku: later20:46
trillisThanks for the help kunu.20:46
WaltzingAlongok so you could try another20:46
trillisBut the inf files wont load to Windows Wireless Drivers20:47
trillisOnly one does, and thats the autorun.inf20:47
trillisnetmw245 Hardware present: No20:48
eVipereOh hey trillis, still at it eh?20:48
trillisHahah20:48
trillisYaay.20:48
trillisYour finally here.20:48
eVipereHave any luck extracting those INF and SYS files from the driver or CD?20:49
trillisHardware presnet = no20:49
trillisI got wine20:49
WaltzingAlongtrillis: wine is not needed for this20:49
WaltzingAlongtrillis: the autorun.inf will not do what you want done20:49
eVipereDid you use wine to run through the installer and get the files?20:49
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* trillis points to eVipe20:49
trillisEr....20:49
trillisHow?20:49
trillisheheh20:49
eVipereWaltz: His problem is that he needs an inf file and a sys file, those are both locked behind a windows installer.20:50
trillisEr... I have those two files though.20:50
eVipereRight-click on the setup.exe and there should be an option for wine.20:50
trillisThere on the CD under winxp drivers20:50
eVipereOh, and they're named netmw245, or whatever?20:50
trillisnetmw245.inf and Mrvw245.sys20:51
eVipereUsually they're named the same thing, but ok.... did you just open ndisgtk and point to the inf while it was ON the CD?20:51
trillisyeah20:52
trillisbut it didnt work20:52
smookerwhere i can see the ip of my DHCP server ? (ISP) so i can allow it in the firewall.. ?20:52
trillisSo I copied it to my desktop and it work20:52
dPixanyone nows how to make sound go 5.1 instead of 2.1?20:52
eViperesmooker: You don't wawnt to see your ISP's dhcp?...20:52
eViperetrillis: Hardware Present: No...    is what you get you said?20:52
trillisYeah20:53
smookeri want to see the IP of the DHCP server where am i connected20:53
sigma_does anyone know how to listen to flatcast radio via amarok?20:53
eVipereThen (providing it is actually plugged in...), I'd try the 2000 driver.20:53
smookerso i can allow it in the firewall...20:53
trillisHAH20:53
trillisI got it to say Yes20:53
Lynouresmooker: why not just allow dhcp ports? Or drop your firewall for a bit, and do   dhclient20:53
trillisI had to copy the sys file off the CD20:53
trillisand the .inf20:53
eVipereYour ISP's DHCP shouldn't enter your firewall, and it won't, as it's a different network and dhcp is broadcast....20:54
trillisSo they could talk to eachother methinks...20:54
trillisNow what?20:54
smookerim trying guarddog right now, but when its on i dont have internet :(20:54
LynoureeVipere: Depends on the setup... if he's asdl bridges, yes it does...20:54
eVipereRight trillis, that's why I was saying 2 files.  grats... now try this in command:    sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper    followed by sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper20:55
sigma_does anyone know how to listen to flatcast radio via amarok?20:55
sigma_or any internet radio?20:56
eViperesigma: Nope, can't amarok only play local files?20:56
trilliser...20:56
Lynouresigma_: plenty of last.fm and some others20:56
trillisIt didn't say anything..20:56
eVipereThat's fine20:56
smookerLynoure what u mean dhclient ?20:57
eViperedo dmesg | grep ndis   and see what shows up.  You should see something promising...20:57
Lynouresmooker: command. on the command line20:57
Lynouresmooker: it shows the server it gets the response from...20:57
trillisvdiswrapper version 1.8 loaded20:57
trillisetc...20:57
eVipereDoes it display something about a device being detected, or at least.... does NOT show any errors.20:58
eVipere!backup | eVipere20:58
trillisIt shows my ethernet device20:59
trillisNo errors that I can see.20:59
trillisoh20:59
trillisIt says that the drive netmw245 is loaded20:59
trillisdrivers*20:59
eViperesweet, looks like you may be in business!20:59
trillisNothing about the USB adapter though...20:59
trillis[17182313.844000] wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:1b:11:6e:ab:83 using dri                    ver netmw245, 07D1:3B11.F.conf21:00
eViperePERFECT!  You've got wifi!21:00
trillisHeheh, unfortunately I don't have a wireless router.21:00
trillisBut my neighbor does :-D21:00
mathieujoin #kde4-devel21:00
eViperethrough your menu, go to networks, or wireless networks... NOT windows wireless devices, and look for that device in there.21:00
mathieuoops21:00
trillisTheres nothing that says networks in my menu21:01
trillisWireless assistant?21:01
eVipereprobably...21:01
eVipereAnd if you don't see any app that's promising, open up adept_manager and look for wireless kde21:02
trillisDoesn't want to pop up.21:02
eVipereYou may need to install a few tools to configure your wifi adapter, as by default it's not installed.21:02
trillisAdept is open, what should I get?21:03
eViperesearch for kde wireless    a few that may help are knetworkmanager, kwifimanager, kwirelessmonitor, and wireless-tools (wifitools are NEEDED)21:04
trillisk21:04
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Lynoureknetworkmanager is nice for most people, as it does things pretty automatically.21:05
trilliskde wireless isnt finding any results21:05
eViperethen just wireless21:05
trillisAircrack?21:05
eVipereLOL, no21:05
trillisWhat's that do?21:05
eVipereLynoure, does knetman have support for wifi configuring though?21:06
eVipere!aircrack | trillis21:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aircrack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:06
trillislibiw-dev is installed already21:06
trillissame with21:06
eVipereOk... useless bot, aircrack is a utility to let you crack into WEP encrypted networks.21:06
LynoureeVipere: wifi configuring in which sense?21:06
trillisWireless-tools, wlassistant, are both installed.21:07
eVipereLynoure: Just connecting to a wireless network and monitoring it's strength...21:07
eViperetrillis: What about kwirelessmonitor and kwifimanager ?21:08
LynoureeVipere: the package search is separate command, but I never remember which one.21:08
trillisI opened wireless assistant21:08
LynoureeVipere: it does that, too. But, no, does not give out reports, or maps or :)21:08
trillisThree wireless networks are available.21:09
trillisAnd only two are locked :-D21:09
eVipere^_^  There ya go, nearly 24 hours later after starting your wifi issue....21:09
trillisYAY21:09
trillisThanks alot.21:09
trillisAnyway to get a better rating?21:09
trillis1 - 2 stars.21:10
eViperebetter rating?  you mean signal strength?21:10
trillisYeah.21:10
eVipereOnce you move it back upstairs, you should have a stronger signal.21:10
trillisk21:10
trillisWhats the danger of using aircrack?21:11
LynoureeVipere: I guess when I first had to choose something for kubuntu wifi, it was the only one with WPA smoothly supported :)21:11
jembougepackage search :  apt-cache search mypackage21:11
eVipereAnd note trillis: Just because you CAN crack WEP/WPA encryptions, it's still !legal and no one officially supports using it....21:11
Lynourejembouge: on ubotu?21:11
trillisHeheh.21:11
LynoureeVipere: WPA is not that easy to crack...21:11
trillisOfficially?21:11
trillisAlright.21:12
trillisLet me go carry this computer back upstairs...21:12
trillisSee if it works.21:12
trillisbrb21:12
jembougeLynoure: do you mean Ubuntu, or do you mean there a Linux distro called ubotu?21:12
eVipereLynoure: I'm sure there's still a util to crack the connection....   and why do you keep referring to the bot?21:12
Lynourejembouge: no, I mean on the bot, ubotu21:12
WaltzingAlongtrillis: need to capture lots of data packets first, then try aircrack on the captured data21:13
WaltzingAlong!bot21:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots21:13
eVipere!botsnack21:13
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!21:13
Lynourejembouge: I know it can do it, I just never remember the command21:13
jembougeoh my mistake :p21:13
tarincan any one give me a hand?21:13
iggiс рррросии21:13
jembougetarin: explain, we'll tell after :p21:13
Lynourejembouge: it's ok, it happens :)21:13
iggiс россии есть кто.21:13
iggi?21:13
eVipereTarin: No, you're not getting my hand!   maybe a finger.. wait, nope, not even a finger!21:13
Lynoure!ru | iggi21:14
ubotuiggi: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke21:14
tarini just upgraded to gutsy from feisty now my internet doesnt work21:14
jembougecan't help with that21:14
tarinsays there is no ethernet device21:14
jembougesorry :(21:14
Lynouretarin: what says that?21:15
tarineVipere: how but a knuckle21:15
tarinknetwork manager21:16
Lynouretarin: when you look at /etc/network/interfaces , does it show the interface there?21:16
Lynouretarin: (it's not a problem if it does not, but sometimes updates add things there and knetwork-manager goes blind to those interfaces)21:17
* eVipere tosses tarin a cookie...21:17
tarindidnt check there and i am dual booting so i will need to get another pc to boot this one into gutsy21:18
Lynouretarin: if you have ext2 support on there, you can just read that from your current OS, but yes, for troubleshooting it helps to have it booted into gutsy.21:19
jembouge* waves as to say "farewell, traveller!"21:19
tarinyeah i know21:20
tarinwhat is ext2?21:20
eVipereDoes anyone have a good backup solution for network backups, (besides what !backup) provides....21:20
LynoureeVipere: yes, oh yes, I'm so glad you asked :)21:21
LynoureeVipere: try Dirvish or BackUpPC, depending on how many systems you are backing up21:21
Lynoureformer is faster, latter is much more space efficient when you have a pile of similar systems.21:22
tarinbrb21:22
eVipereOk, I'm currently getting ready to put BackupPC into production, but I was curious if there was a more graceful/easier option I could do.21:23
tarinok back21:24
LynoureThen there is obnam, but I'm kind of associated to it throught R, so I'm biased (I don't know which way, though)21:24
tarinhad to switch to laptop21:24
LynoureeVipere: What are you backing up?21:24
* genii sips a coffee21:24
eVipereLynoure: 5 or 6 network servers, ranging from IIS/LAMP/mail.21:24
Radi01¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʎɐldsıp ʎɯ21:25
ksalis there channel for kubuntu in polish?21:25
eVipereHey Tarin, you from the 'burgh'?21:25
* genii grabds Radi01 and stands him on his head so eveything else looks rightside up21:25
tarinyup21:25
tarinlove it21:25
LynoureeVipere: hmm, I'm not that good with them MS stuff anymore, but for the rest I'd go for Dirvish, not enough systems to take full use of BackUpPC, IMO21:26
Lynoureksal: try #kubuntu-pl ?21:26
ksala-a21:26
ksalit's not that21:26
Radi01˙sʞuɐɥʇ 'ɹǝʇʇǝq ɥɔnɯ 'ɥɐ21:26
geniiHmm21:26
ksalRadi01: :)21:27
trillisYaay.21:27
Radi01Woops21:27
trillisThanks alot eVipe.21:27
geniiRadi01: :)21:27
eViperetrillis: np21:27
eVipereLynoure: What do you mean that not enough systems make use of BackupPC?21:27
LynoureeVipere: If you e.g. have 2 MSWin, 2 Linux and 2 BSD, there is not that much space saving done by BUPC saving same files only once, even across machines and it is much slower and hoggier than dirvish21:29
LynoureeVipere: If you had e.g. 30 of rather similar systems, BUPC would be a clear choice to me.21:30
tarinok where do i look for my net interfaces?21:30
eViperetarin: ifconfig or knetworkmanager21:30
Lynouretarin: /etc/network/interfaces21:30
Lynouretarin: If you want knetworkmanager to see them, it's good idea to comment them out if they are in that file.21:31
tarinthru console?21:31
Lynouretarin: any text editor will do.21:32
Lynoureor less, my fave for this21:32
tarinok in nano now21:32
tarinthere is a whole list of stuff21:32
Lynouretarin: try commenting out everything except the loopback21:33
Lynouretarin: then restart networkmanager21:33
ksalwhen kde 4 packages will be availabe in repository?21:33
Lynoureksal: unofficially they already are.21:34
ksali want officialy :)21:34
sourcemakerksal: there are already available... but for unstable/development only... the RC1 has been released... for testin purpose21:34
Lynoureksal: oh well then, some point after kde4 is released.21:34
sourcemakerksal: http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-rc1.php21:35
tarinrestart knetman or the netman service?21:35
ksalsourcemaker: rc1 is in development repo? how can i enable it?21:36
sourcemakeris somebody using kopete ? or is konversation still better?21:36
sourcemakerksal: here we go : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php :-)21:36
ksalkopete for irc? :|21:36
sourcemakerksal: yes21:36
tarini use kopete i like it21:36
sourcemakertarin: for icq?21:37
Lynouretarin: it's almost midnight, so I would not bet money on it, but start with the knetwork-manager21:37
tarinwell in windows i use trillian21:37
ksalsourcemaker: but, it's the official dev repo?21:37
tarinin kubuntu i use kopete for everything21:37
tarinok i quit and restarted knetman but no good21:38
sourcemakerksal: no... this is the pre-release of kubuntu... i think you should not use this on a produktive environment21:38
smookerhi all again21:39
sourcemakerksal: I am also waiting for the first stable release...21:39
smookermy nvidia driver requires libc how do i get it ?21:39
yakuzihi all21:40
eViperesmooker: sudo apt-get install libc-dev     I think's the command21:40
sourcemakerksal: but why installing a software... which has a lot of bugs and does not work as stable as the current kde 3.5.8 version?21:40
Lynouretarin: Does not hurt to restart all the networkmanager then, but of course it could be something else as well (I have no idea how ndiswrapper things survive an upgrade)21:40
sourcemakerare there any techs guides available... how to setup an advanced kde environment... I have just noticed... that it is possible to assign contacts with photo to kadressbook from icq accounts of kopete and i think... there are much for nice features...21:40
yakuzii've a question: i'm running kubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and i want to use the Logitech MX518 mouse on it (so i can use the forward/backward keys), can i follow the guides how to do it and still use my touchpad-mouse thing on the laptop if i don't have the MX518 connected?21:41
ksalsourcemaker: you know when those packages will be available in official repo?21:43
ksalactual packages are from .92 .93. and .9421:43
sourcemakerksal: i do not know... sorry...21:44
ksalhmm21:44
sourcemakerksal: I think... they will be available to the next major kubuntu version... but i am not sure...21:44
ksalsourcemaker: i added source to sources list. should ido anything else?21:45
sourcemakerksal: you have to update the repository: apt-get update21:45
ksalthx21:46
sourcemakerksal: I have not tested... but i think you just have to follow the instruction of http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php21:46
ksali do21:46
ksalbut they didn't wrote i have to run apt-get update21:47
ksal:]21:47
sourcemakerksal: well... it is basic :-)21:47
ksalim new in kubuntu21:47
Lynoureksal: it's a little test. KDE4 is still a disappointment to most non-devels21:47
ksalaha21:48
sourcemakerksal: you can also dwonload the live-cd for testing kde4 without getting in trouble21:48
ksalsourcemaker: 800mhz duron and 390mb of sdram isn't good idea to do such things ;)21:49
sourcemakerksal: well....  installing kde4 on your system as non developer or linux guru is not much better... :-)21:50
sourcemakerare there any known pitfalls... connecting to windows with vpn ?21:53
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Radi01beam us up scotty.22:00
dmHello. How can I save a KDE session manually?22:01
ardchoilledm: Use dcop..22:03
lovrehi22:04
lovrei notice sometimes that my /media folder appears empty, and it says Loading directory... but nothing happens. I can access the content from /dev/sda1 etc, but why doesnt it show in /media folder?22:04
ardchoilledm: dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession22:05
ardchoilledm: more about dcop, open a terminal and type: kdcop22:05
lovrenot /dev/sda. its just /media, the other not working is system:/media/22:05
ardchoillelovre: Is it mounted?22:06
Kr4t05Are there any programs out there that will automagically tag and organize my music collection?22:06
dmardchoille: Thanks, I'll try.22:06
lovreyes22:06
lovreardchoille: yes22:06
ardchoillelovre: Is /dev/sda1 mounted to /media?22:07
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lovreardchoille: /dev/sda1 is mounted to /media/sda1, yes22:07
lovreardchoille: but it doesnt appear when i click "Storage Media"22:07
lovreardchoille: using d3lphin22:07
ardchoilleOh, d3lphin, I don't kow. Knowing d3lphin, it's probably a bug. What happens when you go to media:/ i konqueror?22:08
coreymon77i hope real d3lphin isnt gonna be this buggy22:09
ardchoillecoreymon77: Me too22:09
coreymon77i like it, its just really buggy22:10
ardchoilleI'm hoping real dolphin has some real features22:10
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coreymon77!!!! 10 more days!22:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 10 more days! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:11
trillisarg22:11
coreymon77whoops22:11
trillisI need help.22:11
ardchoilletrillis: With what?22:12
trillisI tried to load trillian with wine, and it's like bouncing all over my screen.22:12
lovreardchoille: same problem, it doesnt show anything22:12
ardchoilletrillis: I feel that question would is best asked in #wine22:12
trillisWell.. I just need to know how to stop it.22:12
trillisIt's just jumping around me screen and I have no idea how to close it, theres no ctrl+alt+delete thing to make it close...22:13
trillismy*22:13
coreymon77trillis:kill wine?22:13
trillisWhats that?22:13
ardchoilletrillis: That exits wine22:14
trillisI just started isomg :omix for the first time yesterday,22:14
trillisusing linux*22:14
trillisDo I type 'kill wine' in console?22:14
ardchoilletrillis: Yes22:14
trillisarg... I22:15
trillisThat didn't work, I'll just restart my comp.22:15
coreymon77trillis: kill means ctrl+alt+delete end task in windows22:15
trillisIs there a program like Trillian for linux?22:15
ardchoilletrillis: iirc, trillian is an irc client?22:16
lovreardchoille: i found somewhere an solution, to disable HAL backend.. But i cant, its gray like its unaccessible...22:16
trillisTrillian is one of those universal messengers. Consisting of aim,msn, irc, etc..22:16
ardchoilletrillis: Ah, I use kopete for that22:16
Kr4t05trillis: Pidgin/GAIM, Kopete22:16
coreymon77trillis: gaim, kopete22:16
trillisBut it doesn't automatically retrieve me old list of contacts.22:17
ardchoillelovre: I'm not sure it's a good idea to disable HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer)22:17
lovrepidgin is ok. but i cant get icq plugin to show localized signs right22:17
lovreardchoille: ah, ok, ill leave it then22:17
lovreardchoille: thanks for your time, i will deal with this some other time22:17
ardchoillelovre: yw, Sorry I couldn't be more help22:17
trillisbrb22:17
coreymon77trillis: go into conssole22:18
coreymon77and type ksysguard22:18
coreymon77oh well22:18
ardchoillecoreymon77: I do know that, after the meeting yesterday, someone had fixed a couple d3lphin bugs and was uploading the fixes22:18
coreymon77ardchoille: oh, i was talking about the kde4 release22:19
coreymon77ardchoille: december 11th22:19
ardchoilleAh, ok22:19
Lynourecoreymon77: Didn't it get postponed today?22:21
coreymon77it did?22:21
coreymon77still says dec 11th on the kde release schedule22:21
ardchoillecoreymon77: http://dot.kde.org/1196525703/22:21
ardchoilleSeems it was postponed until January22:21
coreymon77oh22:21
coreymon77i guess the release schedule on kdes site hasnt been updated then22:22
* ardchoille hugs his rss feeds22:22
Lynourecoreymon77: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule has22:22
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ardchoille!away > yakuzi22:22
pasaxeholas22:22
coreymon77what the, i just looked at that a second ago22:23
trillis:(22:24
coreymon77trillis: what22:25
trillisKopete doesn't let me export my contacts...22:25
ardchoilletrillis: In Kopete.. File > Export Contacts22:25
trillisYeah, but I don't see anything there.22:25
coreymon77trillis: what do you mean by that?22:26
ardchoilletrillis: You have kopete contacts already and you want to export them?22:26
trillisErr...22:26
ardchoilleI think he's confused something22:26
trillisI don't think I meant to say export.22:26
ardchoilleRight22:26
trillisYeah.... I mean import.22:26
coreymon77trillis: umm, why would you need to import22:26
mjunxis there a kde4 version of gtk-qt-engine yet? ew @ pidgin :(22:26
coreymon77trillis: im contacts go with your account22:27
coreymon77dont they?22:27
coreymon77atleast from my experience22:27
ardchoillecoreymon77: I believe you're right. Once he sets up his accounts, his contacts should be brought over automatically22:27
ardchoillecoreymon77: Isn't that a server-side thing?22:28
coreymon77ardchoille: unless im completely talking out of my arse22:28
coreymon77ardchoille: which, since i use msn, i doubt22:28
coreymon77trillis: just login to your accounts and your contacts should be there22:29
coreymon77contacts are on the server, they go wherever you login from22:30
trillis_Did something just happen?22:30
coreymon77trillis_: depends what you mean by something22:32
trillis_Whats kdewallet?22:32
trillis_205622:32
trillis_Hm.. :-\22:32
ardchoille!info kwallet22:32
ubotuPackage kwallet does not exist in gutsy22:32
coreymon77trillis_: password manager22:32
ardchoille!kwallet22:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kwallet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:33
coreymon77!kdewallet22:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdewallet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:33
coreymon77meh22:33
coreymon77its a place where you can put all your passwords and personal info and have then be protected22:34
coreymon77i dont use it though22:34
trillis_oh22:34
trillis_Now I have to figure out why my sound isn't working.22:35
ardchoilleKWallet saves this sensitive data for you in a strongly encrypted file, accessible by all applications, and protected with a master password that you define.22:35
ardchoille!sound | trillis22:35
ubotutrillis: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:35
trillis_Sound system meaning 'Sound and Multimedia'?22:37
flakedo i have to install kde 4.0 rc1 manually or will it show up in repo and be like an update22:37
ardchoilleflake: afaik, it will update, but I thought rc1 was already there22:37
flakemine still shows 3.5.822:37
flakejust ran synaptic22:38
nosrednaekim!kde422:38
ubotuKDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php22:38
flakealso, is it worth-it, eg. anything noticable change or fix22:38
coreymon77flake: i doubt its in the main repos, prob backports or a special kde4 repo22:38
ardchoilleflake: Ah, you're right22:38
sMonkDue to a big system crash that seems un re-solvable.. I'm going to re-install 7.10 Kubuntu... Any tip/suggestions so I don't screw up ... again?22:39
coreymon77sMonk: what kind of crash22:39
nosrednaekimflake: do NOT attempt to make kde4 your main desktop ..it is very "beta quality22:39
ardchoilleflake: It's an rc, if you're not a dev, tester, Linux guru, it may ot be useful to you yet.22:39
flakethat is cool22:39
ubuntuhi all22:39
trillis_uhg :(22:40
ubuntuhow i can edit the xorg.conf file from the konsole ?22:40
coreymon77sMonk: what kind of crash are we talking?22:40
sMonkGrub Error 2, plus I used to have Windows Vista on here, but Grub over wrote the MBR, and I can't get it back.. so, now I'm just going to format it all and re-install, but I don't want Crapta (Vista) so I'm going to run Kubuntu alone.22:40
trillis_amaroK doesn't like me.22:40
ardchoilleubuntu: in kate or vim or other? In kate: kdesu kate/etc/X11/xorg.conf22:41
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ardchoilletrillis_: You're not alone :)22:41
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coreymon77sMonk: um why not just reinstall grub22:41
ardchoille!grub | sMonk22:41
ubotusMonk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto22:41
trillis_Can I use winamp?22:41
sMonkI was trying to install in earlier, but nothing seemed to work22:41
ubuntuui just got xorg.conf error and cant startx22:41
ardchoilletrillis_: You can use xmms, it's much like winamp, i love it22:42
nosrednaekimtrillis_: no... but try exaile or juK22:42
ubuntuuand i need to edit it from the console but kade didnt worked "sudo kate /etc...conf22:42
trillis_will get-apt xmmx work?22:42
ubuntuu"22:42
trillis_xmms*22:42
ardchoilleubuntuu: If you know how to use vim in tty1: sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf22:42
coreymon77trillis_: its apt-get22:42
ardchoilletrillis_: sudo apt-get install xmms22:42
sMonkI've had people helping me with this for 2 days now, and I can't seem to get my Kubuntu running again22:42
ardchoilletrillis_: And there are lots of goodies for it: apt-cache search --names-only xmms22:43
trillis_Hurray/22:43
ubuntuuok thanks ill try22:43
itch_Hello guys. I`m runing compiz-fusion on a Kubuntu distribution (KDE enviroment), and I`m having troubles with my virtual desktops. I just don`t manage to set the right number of virtual desktops. If I set 2 (from ccsm), in the taskbar 4 are displayed, from which only 2 are active. It seems that every time in the taskbar are diplayed double the number of vitural desk. set by me.22:43
trillis_Like what?22:43
nosrednaekimitch_: you need kicker-compiz22:43
ardchoilletrillis_: Skins for xmms: http://www.xmms.org/skins.php22:44
coreymon77sMonk: oh well, if you want to reinstall, just use the livecd and do it, instalation is very easy now, there isnt much you could screw up22:44
coreymon77sMonk: especially if you want to wipe the entire drive22:44
ardchoilletrillis_: Goodies: apt-cache search --names-only xmms22:44
itch_nosrednaekim: that is that?22:44
itch_*what22:45
SmikyCiao a tutti !22:45
nosrednaekimitch_: its up on kde-apps,its a pager that behaves properly with compiz22:45
vltHello. I have installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS with its default kernel 2.6.15-k7 on an AMD64/X2 machine. Now I try to boot with another mainboard but the same type of CPU. It bgins to boot, recognizes the CPU correctly but then panics with "IO-APIC + TIMER doesn't work". Using another boot hd with 7.10 installed works fine. Any idea how to get it working?22:45
itch_nosrednaekim: ok. thanks! i`ll try it22:45
nosrednaekimsMonk: whe you do reinstall, give yourself a separate /home partition, it makes things a bit easier22:45
ardchoilles/bit/lot/22:46
nosrednaekimitch_: I think trevino even packaged it up... might want to check into that22:46
trillis_o22:46
trillis_m22:46
trillis_g22:46
trillis_My linux just had siezure...22:46
sMonkcoreymon77: I know, but this will be the 3rd time installing Kubuntu :( I keep having major issues with it... I don't know.. when I used to run Linux about 7 yrs ago, it was very stable, now it sometimes seems as bad as the Micro$$$$oft corp22:46
itch_thanks22:46
sMonknosrednaekim: what do you mean?22:46
nosrednaekimvlt: give it a boot option "noapic"22:47
ardchoillesMonk: A lot has changed in 7 years22:47
sMonkcoreymon77: the thing that drives me nuts the most is having things run GREAT, then I re-boot to find a black screen with a blinking cursor22:47
vltnosrednaekim: Thank you. Yes, that's what the kernel panic line says, too. Is something important missing when running "noapic"?22:48
nosrednaekimsMonk: a separate /hom will allow you to keep your settings and files over multiple installations22:48
coreymon77trillis_: what happened this time22:48
sMonkardchoille: Yeah.. lol know what you mean.. and it don't help none when you don't remember the primitive commands so when things go bad and boot you to console you can't remember anything to get you by22:48
nosrednaekimvlt: I'm actually not sure ;) but I think not.... apic has something to do with a CPU BIOS or something like that.22:48
nosrednaekim!apic22:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:48
sMonknosrednaekim: you mean a second user other than root?22:48
ardchoillesMonk: So, stick with Linux this time :P22:48
sMonkardchoille: Believe me, after running vista for a bit.. I'd prefer it22:49
nosrednaekimsMonk: I mean that if you ever have to reinstall (or try out a new distro) you can keep your files.22:49
coreymon77sMonk: no, put your home directory on a seperate partition22:49
sMonkcoreymon77: Oh?22:49
nosrednaekimit makes reinstalling pretty painless.22:49
coreymon77trillis_: what happened?22:50
trillis_coreymond77: I type in the apt-cache command and like a million windows flickered apeared then dissapeared...22:50
sMonknosrednaekim: so during the install proceedure, make a sep, parti. and put my home folder there?22:50
trillis_typed*22:50
nosrednaekimsMonk: correct.22:51
ardchoilletrillis_: You need to tell apt-cache what to do.. like "search" and you can even narrow that by piping to grep22:51
trillis_ah..22:51
coreymon77trillis_: you mean apt-cache searh22:51
sMonknosrednaekim: can I msg you for a sec?22:51
coreymon77trillis_: search*22:51
trillis_hehe Yeah.22:51
ardchoilletrillis_: Example: apt-cache search --names-only xmms22:51
trillis_Aah, okay.22:51
trillis_How about help with Kopete?22:51
coreymon77trillis_: apt-get and apt-cache are only the programs, you then have to give then instructions22:51
nosrednaekimwhats wrong with it?22:51
ardchoilletrillis_: Or apt-cache search xmms | grep kde22:52
coreymon77trillis_: such as apt-get install, or apt-cache search22:52
trillis_Is it possible to get my contact list from my MSN, AIM, and Yahoo messenger, even though the list was on a different computer?22:52
Radi01apt-get uninstall ./ bill gates22:52
coreymon77trillis_: your contact list is not on your computer22:53
coreymon77trillis_: its on msn, aim and yahoos servers22:53
trillis_Then why sin't kopete giving me my list? :'(22:53
coreymon77trillis_: just log in to your accounts and your contacts will be there22:53
trillis_Er...22:53
trillis_I did, and there not.22:53
coreymon77trillis_: eh?22:54
sMonknosrednaekim: can I msg you for a sec?22:54
coreymon77trillis_: thats odd22:54
trillis_Like, it has all my contact lists.22:54
nosrednaekimsMonk: sure22:54
trillis_"Friends, family, etc..."22:54
trillis_But there all 0/022:54
coreymon77trillis_: take a screenshot of your screen and put it up on imageshack or something like that22:54
trillis_Wow.22:55
coreymon77trillis_: what?22:55
trillis_The screenshot button is 100x's better in Linux than windows...22:55
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ubuntuuhow do i save file after editing with VIM ?22:56
coreymon77trillis_: i know22:56
ardchoilletrillis_: You'll find many things are that way :)22:56
trillis_Heheh.22:56
ubuntuujoin #ubuntu22:56
ardchoilleubuntuu: Type a ":" to exit insert mode, then "wq" (without quotes)22:56
ubuntuuops :)22:56
trillis_I wonder how long I can get away with using someone else wireless internet connection... :)22:57
WaltzingAlongor use nano22:57
coreymon77trillis_: why not just use yours?22:57
ardchoilletrillis_: Intil you get caught and charged with theft of service ?22:57
WaltzingAlongbe sure to visit as many unencrypted sites as possible s22:58
ardchoillelol22:58
trillis_hm..22:58
coreymon77trillis_: anyways, did you post the screen somewhere?22:58
trillis_I'd use mine, but I need to get a wireless router.22:58
trillis_Its uploading.22:58
ardchoilleimageshack can be slow at times22:59
trillis_http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6493/snapshot1ek8.png22:59
coreymon77trillis_: huh? do you have internet in your house22:59
trillis_Yes.22:59
coreymon77trillis_: btw, your not logged in22:59
ardchoilleUhm, that's quite a large desktop22:59
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trillis_It is?23:00
ardchoilleBigger than 1280x102423:00
coreymon77trillis_: see the little aim icon in the bottom right of kopete23:00
trillis_Oh yeah, I've been meaning to ask.23:00
trillis_How do I change the reso?23:00
trillis_Yeah?23:00
coreymon77trillis_: if you were logged in, that would be yellow23:01
coreymon77ardchoille: right?23:01
ardchoilletrillis_: Let coreymon77 Help with this issue first, then we'll work on resolution23:01
trillis_Hm... How do I login then?23:01
coreymon77first lets see if im right23:01
ardchoilletrillis_: Right, you're not logged in23:01
coreymon77ardchoille: it would be, wouldnt it23:01
ardchoilleyes23:01
coreymon77give me a sec to boot up my kubuntu box, im on my mac now23:02
trillis_k23:02
ardchoilletrillis_: See that first icon in the toolbar? Click it and select "online"23:02
trillis_My monitor seems a little fuzzy.23:02
trillis_Which toolbar?23:02
ardchoilletrillis_: Once logged in, your contact list should fill up23:02
ardchoilletrillis_: The little yellow man holding a folder next to the star23:03
ardchoilleUnder File23:03
trillis_Yeah23:03
trillis_Er.. It just shows me my away messages...23:04
ardchoilleClick the word "Online"23:04
ardchoilletrillis_: Or, File > Set Status > Online23:05
trillis_I did, and then it brings up another side window: "No Messages. New Messages"23:05
ardchoilletrillis_: Ok, use the File menu23:05
trillis_For me its: File > Set Status > Online > NO Message/ New Message23:05
nosrednaekimtrillis_: right click on the icon... not left click23:05
ardchoilleI may have edited my toolbar23:05
trillis_Oh23:06
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Right clicking a toolbar icon brings up the toolbar config, no?23:06
trillis_Right Click> AIM SN > Online23:06
trillis_That didn't work..23:06
ardchoilletrillis_: File > Set Status > Online   ?23:07
coreymon77ardchoille: what do you mean, didnt work23:07
nosrednaekimardchoille: oh... I thought you meant on the guy on the BOTTOM of the window ;)23:07
coreymon77trillis_: that was aimed at you23:07
ardchoillenosrednaekim: Ah, ok23:07
trillis_Hm..23:07
trillis_I got my msn to work23:08
trillis_Right Click > Configure > Add new connection23:08
ardchoilletrillis_: What happens when you do File > Set Status > Online  ?23:08
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trillis_Nothing happens when I click it for AIM.23:09
trillis_Let me try something.23:09
coreymon77trillis_: try readding the aim connection, like you did msn23:10
coreymon77trillis_: /deleting the current connection23:10
trillis_Just did.23:10
trillis_Still nothing..23:10
trillis_It says my AIM is online.23:11
ardchoilletrillis_: Ok, let's go with nosrednaekim's advice.. what happens when you right click the little man in the bottom right corner?23:11
ardchoilleOk23:11
coreymon77trillis_: try logging out of aim an logging back in23:12
trillis_k23:12
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trillis_Nothing.23:12
trillis_And I get three options23:12
trillis_Offline23:12
trillis_Away and Online.23:12
nosrednaekimclick23:13
nosrednaekimonline23:13
trillis_I did.23:13
trillis_It says I'm online.23:13
trillis_But nothing happens still.23:13
coreymon77trillis_: do offline first23:14
coreymon77trillis_: then try going back online23:14
trillis_Still nothing.23:14
trillis_Should I overide defualt server position..O_O...?23:15
coreymon77trillis_: delete the aim account connection on kopete, then readd it23:16
trillis_Thats odd.23:17
trillis_It doesn't ask me for a password.23:17
WaltzingAlongtrillis_: stored it in kwallet?23:18
trillis_Ah23:18
trillis_Yeah23:18
trillis_Arg, still nothing.23:19
coreymon77erm, i dont know23:19
coreymon77dont use kopete much myself23:19
nosrednaekimtrillis_: do yourself a favor and use pidgin..23:20
nosrednaekim:D23:20
trillis_heh23:21
trillis_I tried to get pidgin.23:22
jobbehey, I want to show a directories size on the command line without actually recursing into the directory using ls -R so that I can see the size of the dir AND all included files/subdirs23:22
jobbeis that possible?23:22
WaltzingAlongdu23:22
nosrednaekimjobbe: check into du..23:22
coreymon77trillis_: from where?23:22
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tekteendu -h23:22
nosrednaekimah... beaten agin :(23:22
jobbedu, thanks :)23:22
ardchoilleHmm.. pidgin supports ore protocols than kopete23:22
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coreymon77trillis_: i dont think pidgin is in apt23:23
trillis_But it just gave me a download link for unix, source and windows.23:23
coreymon77trillis_: oh, www.getdeb.net23:23
nosrednaekimtrillis_: "sudo apt-get install pidgin"23:23
coreymon77or that23:23
WaltzingAlong!info pidgin | trillis_23:23
ubotutrillis_: pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB23:23
nosrednaekimtrillis_: you're on gutsy right?23:23
coreymon77didnt use to be in apt23:23
WaltzingAlongtrue it was called gaim before23:24
trillis_Whats the use of su in konsole?23:24
coreymon77i know that23:24
coreymon77trillis_: root23:24
coreymon77trillis_: but you should be using sudo instead23:24
WaltzingAlong!info pidgin (feisty)23:24
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty23:24
trillis_Kubuntu is gutsy?23:24
nosrednaekim!gutsy23:25
ubotuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents23:25
trillis_Whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?23:25
tekteenthe programs install23:25
tekteeninstalled*23:26
nosrednaekim!kde23:26
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.23:26
crimsunthe former ships with KDE packages installed by default; the latter ships with GNOME.23:26
tekteenalso the user interface23:26
trillis_Will that work vice-versa?23:26
nosrednaekimtrillis_: yep23:26
trillis_sudo apt-get install Ubuntu?23:26
tekteenno23:26
WaltzingAlong!info ubuntu-desktop | trillis_23:26
ubotutrillis_: ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.79 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 48 kB23:26
trillis_So its ubuntu-desktop?23:27
tekteenyep23:27
coreymon77trillis_: but also23:27
coreymon77trillis_: ubuntu using gnome as its default de23:27
ardchoilletrillis_: ubuntu-desktop is the gnome desktop environment, kubuntu uses the kde environment23:27
trillis_Gah, I'm just going to stick with kde until I get the hang of linux.23:28
ardchoilletrillis_: You'll thank yourself later :)23:28
WaltzingAlongtrillis_: ... get the hang of kde ...23:28
trillis_sudo apt-get pidgin didn't work...23:28
coreymon77trillis_: ubuntu and kubuntu are on the same release numbers23:28
nosrednaekimtrillis_: most people who start with kde can never go to gnome.23:28
ardchoilletrillis_: sudo apt-get install pidgin23:28
trillis_oh yeah23:28
trillis_heheh23:28
coreymon77trillis_: if ubuntu is on gutsy, kubuntu is too23:28
ardchoilletrillis_: You have to tell apt-get what to do23:28
trillis_Still didn't work.23:29
nosrednaekimtrillis_: any errors?23:29
ardchoilletrillis_: What was the error?23:29
ardchoilleHad to be an error, no?23:29
nosrednaekimXD23:29
trillis_Reading package lists... Done Building dependancy tree... Done... E: Could not find packae Pidgin23:30
tekteen!info pidgin23:30
ubotupidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB23:30
ardchoilletrillis_: sudo apt-get update23:30
crimsunpackages do not have capitalised letters23:30
crimsunthey are all lowercased.23:30
ardchoillecrimsun: Good catch23:30
trillis_I tried it with lowercase too23:30
ardchoilletrillis_: Are you on Gutsy?23:30
trillis_Yeah.23:31
trillis_Kubuntu gutsy...23:31
ardchoilletrillis_: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?23:31
ardchoille!pastebin23:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:31
ubuntubonjour23:31
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crimsunI'm pretty sure you want the version in gutsy-security.23:31
crimsun    pidgin | 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 | gutsy-security | source, amd64, i386, powerpc23:31
WaltzingAlongor use adept manager to enable disabled repositories23:31
gastuhi23:31
ardchoillehu gastu23:31
ardchoille*hi23:32
tekteenBonjour ubuntu23:32
ardchoilleI need to find libtypewhatImeant23:32
gastucan someone explain me what 3d sigmatel depth and others does?23:32
tekteenardchoille: I believe that comes out in Hardy23:33
crimsungastu: for some codecs, it flips a register bit enabling simulated 3D sound23:33
ardchoilletekteen: haha23:33
gastucrimsun: can u give me a site to configure this right?23:33
gastugoogle losted me in nothing23:33
WaltzingAlonglibknowwhatyoumean is a prereq to libtypewhatimeant23:33
crimsungastu: ...a site?  It's a simple mixer element toggle.  Just mute or unmute it in the mixer.23:34
ardchoilleWaltzingAlong: Ah, thanks23:34
tekteenWaltzingAlong: agreed23:34
vltHello. Seems as if my 6.06's kernel 2.6.15 doesn't support my NIC. Even when I `modprobe forcedeth` it just prints out a status line "... nForce nic driver ... v 0.54". Still no device available ... With kubuntu 7.10 it works fine (if one ignores the randomly assigned MAC address). Any idea what to do?23:34
WaltzingAlong:p23:34
gastucrimsun: so i have to do with myself problem is i don't see enough differences to see what it does exactly lol23:34
coreymon77vlt: use 7.10 :P23:35
vltcoreymon77: hmmm23:35
WaltzingAlonggastu: is it the 3d effect like hall, studio, underwater and so on?23:36
gastunop  2 slide bars for depth and 1 for rear depht23:37
vltcoreymon77: It's a production machine with about 30 user accounts that just got a new mainboard. I didn't want to setup everything new. Is there a way to fix it in the current install? Maybe a mofified foreceth module or kernel?23:37
tekteenvlt: u can upgrade23:37
WaltzingAlongvlt: or you could build the newer kernel. lots of options i suppose23:37
antoIts not very often you find this channel dead !?23:38
gastui know it's not very important to take time for this but ...23:38
tekteenanto: I have seen it dead23:39
tekteenanto: It is very boring23:39
WaltzingAlonggastu: or maybe there is just a better resource than the kubuntu support channel?23:39
gastuyep i'll take the time to see in alsa but not today23:39
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vlttekteen: Does upgrading mean foing the whole way Dapper->Edgy->Feisty->Gutsy or is there a faster way? Will there be an LTS->LTS upgrade for 8.04?23:40
tekteenvlt: no idea23:41
vltWaltzingAlong: Do you know if there's some kind of "backports" available for Dapper where I could find a newer kernel?23:41
ardchoillevlt: It's recommended to go one release at a time23:41
gastui'm switching again to linux i used to be gentoo and i find the way to install kubuntu easy only thing to say is why putting mp3 format in radio stream knowing amarok won't play it...23:41
vlt!mp3 > gastu23:42
Radi01gatsu: does your Amarok play?23:42
gastui tried a couple of links and all of them where mp3 streams23:42
Radi01libxine1-ffmpeg23:43
gastutalking of the live cd to install23:43
Radi01oh ok23:43
gastui wish to all of you a good night23:44
gastugb23:44
WaltzingAlongvlt: not that i know. maybe get a pci nic?23:44
Radi01I'ts funny how many distros are trying to out do Ubuntu.23:44
coreymon77Radi01: you mean *buntu23:45
trillisSorry...23:45
coreymon77trillis: hey, where did you go23:45
ardchoilleRadi01: Shows how popular these distros are23:45
trillisMy internet stopped working, and then my wireless settings wouldn't open.23:45
trillisI had to restart.23:46
vlttrillis: You got your own internet? :P23:46
trillisHeheh.23:46
Radi01Maybe those who saw you use their network cut you off/lol23:46
ardchoilletrillis: Still need to install pidgin?23:46
trillisYeah.23:46
ardchoilletrillis_: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?23:46
trillisAnd no.23:46
ardchoille!pastebin23:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:46
mehrezhi23:47
tekteenho23:47
tekteenhi*23:47
ardchoilleWow, just learned what 'cat > foo' does23:49
ardchoilleThat'll come i handy23:49
Radi01what did it do23:49
trillis_Areg...23:50
ardchoilleIt allows you to make a list or type a letter, then press ctrl+d to save it to foo23:50
trillis_Looks like it's just IRC,..23:50
mehrezi  have a probleme when mounting my ntfs partition23:50
mehrezcan some one help me?23:50
Radi01cool23:50
trillis_Most likely.23:50
ardchoilleRadi01: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/linux/docs/uniqlinuxfeatures/lsst/23:50
vltWaltzingAlong: Yeah, thank you. It's nearly 1 a.m. here and I totally forgot that I cuold just take a pci NIC ...23:50
Radi01k23:50
jobbemehrez, ntfs can only be mounted read only afaik23:51
tekteen anyone know how to make a alt. install cd get some packages from a local apt-cacher (repo) server?23:51
jobbemount refuses service if you try anything else23:51
mehrezyes jobbe23:51
mehrezi know23:51
mehrezbut with kubuntu i can't mount it !!!23:52
ardchoille!ntfs23:52
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE23:52
Radi01nice little hand book/thanks.23:52
ardchoille!ntfs-3g23:52
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions23:52
mehrezi mount the partition23:52
mehrezbut whenn i open it23:52
ardchoilleRadi01: yw :)23:52
jobbeoh, nice driver :) didn't know about that one23:52
ardchoilleRadi01: Also, http://www.tldp.org23:53
mehrezit say that i don't have access to open it23:53
Radi01k23:53
mehrezand in terminal i open the partition with root and i can access it23:53
Radi01Those will sure save allot of headaches/thanks again,23:54
ardchoilleRadi01: I spent two weeks there :)23:54
Radi01I prolly will also..good info.23:54
WaltzingAlongmehrez: so you can mount it, it gets mounted, the issue is setting the permissions you want?23:55
WaltzingAlong!mount | mehrez23:55
Radi01brb23:55
Dr_willissetting the permissions on a ntfs is  done with the options to mount, noteably the umask, and dmask, and perhaps uid/gid options.23:55
ubotumehrez: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter23:55
mehrezyes23:56
mehrezthis is the probleme23:56
mehrezis the permission23:56
naelranyone good with ndiswrapper23:56
coreymon77trillis_: so, whats the deal now23:56
mehrezwhere i found permission setting ubotu23:57
coreymon77naelr: what card are we talking here23:57
naelrit is a newer atheros card23:57
Dr_willis!bot23:57
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots23:57
coreymon77naelr: and why are you using ndis again?23:57
coreymon77naelr: with atheros?23:57
Dr_willismehrez,  if you are using Kubuntu 7.10 you proberly want to be using the ntfs-3g stuff to access the ntfs partitions. it makes it easier.23:58
naelrcoreymon77: here is the problem I am having.. I have a new laptop and it has such new hardware that madwifi doesn't have drivers yet23:58
tekteen anyone know how to make a remastered alt. install cd get some packages from a local apt-cacher server?23:58
naelrhave been all over ubuntu forums and found others having the same problem23:58
coreymon77naelr: atheros chip cards work out of the box dont they?23:58
naelrcoreymon77: not this one23:58
mehrezDr_willis: how i use it the  "ntfs-3g"23:58
mehrez??23:58
coreymon77naelr: which one is this?23:58
naelrcoreymon77: that is part of the reason I bought this laptop.. wifi is a bitch...23:59
vzduch!ntfs-3g | mehrez23:59
ubotumehrez: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions23:59
naelrum.. one sec I will get exact version23:59
WaltzingAlongtekteen: just change the sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?23:59
naelrcoreymon77: Atheros AR5007EG23:59
naelrhere is my issue23:59
coreymon77naelr: not really, i bought an atheros card and it works perfectly23:59
knulfine!de23:59
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