[12:52] <festor> hi
[12:53] <festor> there are any for here? sorry but my english is bad
[13:00] <man-di> sure
[13:00] <man-di> but we cant help when you dont ask a real question
[13:09] <festor> ok
[13:10] <festor> I am a user of Ubuntu interested in the process of creating packages
[13:10] <festor> Until now I know create packages using dh-make and debhelper
[13:11] <festor> But cdbs not what I understand
[13:11] <festor> And believe it is the only one capable of packaging programs java
[13:11] <festor> First question
[13:12] <festor> cdbs is the only for java?
[13:12] <festor> Second question
[13:12] <festor> If yes
[13:13] <festor> 	
[13:13] <festor> I would like to know if there is any quick guide for packaging with cdbs a program java
[13:14] <festor> 	
[13:14] <festor> Or if someone can explain to me how simple the process simpler for packaging eg this program
[13:14] <festor> http://www.ted.nu/
[13:15] <festor> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ted/tedv091.zip?download
[13:16] <man-di> 1.) no, but the easiest
[13:17] <man-di> 2) the best guides are other packages
[13:18] <man-di> and I admit that cdbs docs are not really good so you sometimes need to take a look at its sources
[13:19] <festor> sorry, but... Do you mean to study the file diff deb a package of a java program?
[13:19] <man-di> yes
[13:20] <man-di> well, not the diff but the whole package building sources
[13:20] <man-di> I know this is some kind of big starter hurdle
[13:21] <festor> Do you not I could write a quick demonstration of how to control the cdbs?
[13:21] <festor> With for example the ted program
[13:22] <festor> I learn much better with a base model
[13:22] <man-di> any existing package shoudld be a good base model
[13:23] <man-di> and nobody wrote a java packaginng tutorial yet
[13:23] <festor> Well, :( Thanks for the information, I will see that I can do
[13:23] <man-di> feel free to ask more here
[13:24] <man-di> and read the debian java policy
[13:24] <man-di> it contains useful information
[13:24] <festor> i will try :D