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| nealmcb | soren: this should help - I rebooted in recovery mode (and with no silly splash screen), and got this: alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid-ad2c6.......2a3 does not exist, dropping to a shell | 00:14 |
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| * nijaba is going to bed | 00:39 | |
| nealmcb | nijaba: sweet dreams - yet another virtual reality, much cheaper! | 00:42 |
| Innatech | Hello. Can anyone familiar with prevu and backporting have a look at this prevu output for me and help me understand the nature of the failure? http://rafb.net/p/Ns0NLR55.html | 03:42 |
| ScottK | Innatech: It looks like probably a bug in the package with debhelper level setting, but I'd have to review the code to be sure. | 03:56 |
| ScottK | Innatech: Additionally, that's pbuilder running in that part of PREVU, so anyone familiar with pbuilder (which is a lot more than PREVU) could have read that. | 03:56 |
| Innatech | ScottK: what should I read to try and familiarize myself with the tools enough to correct the problem? | 03:59 |
| Innatech | ScottK: debhelper and pbuilder man pages, I'm assuming. | 04:00 |
| ScottK | Innatech: If you look at the source of the package, there should be a file debian/compat that should have a number in it. | 04:00 |
| ScottK | If it does and the number is 5, then you need to whine to jdong to help you with prevu. | 04:01 |
| Innatech | Heh, OK. | 04:01 |
| ScottK | If it's not there or it's higher than 5, then you need to file a bug (and maybe try to fix it). | 04:01 |
| jdong | *popping in at ScottK's request* | 04:02 |
| ScottK | Innatech meet jdong. jdong, meet Innatech | 04:03 |
| jdong | whee! | 04:03 |
| ScottK | jdong: http://rafb.net/p/Ns0NLR55.html is the issue in question. | 04:03 |
| * ScottK doesn't have time to look at it, but it seemed like an odd error to be in the actual package. | 04:04 | |
| Innatech | Hello! | 04:04 |
| jdong | *waits for rafb to load* | 04:04 |
| Innatech | I'm looking through the package for the files ScottK indicated should be present. | 04:04 |
| ScottK | jdong: I told him to check debian/compat just to make sure it didn't say 6 for some odd reason. | 04:05 |
| jdong | I still can't get the pastebin to load... the connection seems to be timing out | 04:05 |
| Innatech | hmm. I'll use a different pastebin. | 04:05 |
| jdong | thanks | 04:05 |
| Innatech | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46395/ | 04:06 |
| jdong | ah yes, that's better | 04:07 |
| jdong | weird error indeed | 04:07 |
| jdong | *reproduces* | 04:07 |
| Innatech | OK, so I'm not crazy. I usually assume the problem is me. | 04:08 |
| jdong | ScottK: debian/compat says 6 for shorewall 3.4.4-1 | 04:08 |
| Innatech | So, it wants a newer debhelper than prevu is using? | 04:10 |
| jdong | Innatech: it wants a newer debhelper than what Feisty has (prevu uses a stock feisty build environment) | 04:10 |
| jdong | Innatech: you can either try to introduce a newer debhelper, or figure out what part of the new shorewall packaging needs the new compat level and try to shave it back down to how it was. | 04:11 |
| Innatech | hrrrm. Well, I need to get a newer shorewall somehow. The version in the Feisty repos is too old to do multiple WAN connections. | 04:11 |
| Innatech | Would it be worth trying to create a new package for Feisty using a tarball of a newer version rather than trying to meddle with the Gutsy package? I'm not well acquainted with altering packages. | 04:12 |
| jdong | Innatech: ok, someone's gonna hurt me for saying this BUT...... | 04:12 |
| jdong | Innatech: just set the debian/compat back down to 5 and see if the build fails | 04:13 |
| jdong | :) | 04:13 |
| Innatech | heh. | 04:13 |
| jdong | it's more sane than totally repackaging from scratch for sure | 04:13 |
| Innatech | OK. I'll see what I can figure out. | 04:14 |
| jdong | Innatech: in case you didn't know, running "prevu" in the source directory builds the modified source directory. It works similarly to pdebuild. | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | jdong: debhelper 6 doesn't exist yet does it? | 04:15 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: *shrug* first time I've heard of it... | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | if it does, it's not in ubuntu | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | looks like a typo | 04:16 |
| Innatech | jdong: yes, I think I saw that on the wiki page. So I just grab the source, make the change and see if it builds. | 04:16 |
| jdong | but yet shorewall synced from debian sid wants it | 04:16 |
| jdong | Innatech: I'll test a build just to see what happens | 04:16 |
| jdong | Hobbsee: could very well be | 04:16 |
| Hobbsee | and we would have expected more packages coming thru and failing for it | 04:16 |
| jdong | Innatech: builds *perfectly* with debian/compat set to 5 | 04:17 |
| Innatech | Cool. I'm still fumbling around, but I should have it in a minute. | 04:18 |
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| jdong | yeah lemme know if you have trouble doing the build | 04:18 |
| Innatech | I'm just having trouble finding the correct file to alter. I grabbed the .dsc with dget, but it appears not to include the source. | 04:23 |
| jdong | Innatech: dgetting the .dsc should grab a .dsc, .diff.gz, and .orig.tar.gz | 04:24 |
| jdong | Innatech: alternatively, apt-get source shorewall | 04:24 |
| Innatech | Yeah, I have the orig.tar.gz, but there's no .debian/ in it. | 04:25 |
| jdong | Innatech: you need to run dpkg-source -x on the .dsc file | 04:25 |
| jdong | that will properly extract the source | 04:25 |
| Innatech | ah. | 04:25 |
| jdong | the debian dir is actually a patch in the .diff.gz file | 04:25 |
| jdong | dpkg-source -x correctly applies it | 04:25 |
| Innatech | gothca. | 04:25 |
| jdong | it's roughly the same as cd'ing into the .orig.tar.gz then running zcat ../*.diff.gz | patch -p1 | 04:25 |
| jdong | but needless to say dpkg-source -x *.dsc is a bit easier :) | 04:26 |
| Innatech | OK, building now.... | 04:28 |
| jdong | cool | 04:28 |
| Innatech | it's going to take a minute, this little box isn't the swiftest. | 04:28 |
| Innatech | still pulling additional packages for the build environment... | 04:32 |
| Innatech | Success! | 04:34 |
| Innatech | :) | 04:35 |
| * Innatech thanks jdong & scottk | 04:35 | |
| Innatech | So, would attaching the generated .deb to a request for an addition to feisty-backports be a reasonable thing to do? | 04:36 |
| jdong | Innatech: well you can but it will likely not be immediately approved without more work | 04:44 |
| jdong | Innatech: first we need to figure out what's up with this DEBCOMPAT=6 ordeal in the package | 04:44 |
| jdong | then we need to evaluate backporting it to Gutsy too | 04:44 |
| jdong | finally, I'd like verification that this release is backwards compatible | 04:45 |
| jdong | i.e. Shorewall rules written in the Feisty version all run on the Hardy one | 04:45 |
| jdong | as long as these simple things can be done, the backport's a go. | 04:45 |
| Innatech | jdong: I grabbed this one from Gutsy, FWIW. I'll be using it on a fairly busy router, so I'll see how it goes. | 04:53 |
| jdong | Innatech ok | 04:53 |
| joycetick | hello? | 06:05 |
| joycetick | anyone know how to autologin on gutsy server? | 06:14 |
| Innatech | Is modprobing xt_connmark.ko not enough to enable connmark target support? xt_connmark.ko appears in my lsmod, but shorewall is telling me that it isn't supported by the kernel. | 06:31 |
| Innatech | I want to make sure this functionality hasn't been made available as a module before I recompile the kernel. | 06:31 |
| Innatech | OK, this seems to say that I do need to recompile: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.shorewall/17661 | 06:40 |
| nealmcb | joycetick: so you want to boot to a console prompt as a particular user (i.e. not some sort of gdm autologin?) | 06:46 |
| joycetick | nealmcb: yeah | 06:47 |
| joycetick | then i was going to run startx | 06:47 |
| nealmcb | joycetick: I haven't seen a request for that before :-) | 06:48 |
| joycetick | theres always a first time :) | 06:48 |
| nealmcb | oh, so you do want a gui? gnome? | 06:48 |
| joycetick | nah, ive got fluxbox atm | 06:49 |
| nealmcb | there might be a way in gnome/gdm or the like | 06:49 |
| joycetick | not enough resources for gnome :P | 06:49 |
| joycetick | otherwise, if its possible to run utorrent under wine without a gui or logged in | 06:50 |
| nealmcb | no specifics, but sounds like someone did it and got stuck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219863 | 06:52 |
| joycetick | :( | 06:55 |
| joycetick | do you if i could run utorrent under wine as a service? so i dont need to login for it to start? | 06:57 |
| nealmcb | damn cntl-w key..... | 06:59 |
| nealmcb | joycetick: ask again about wine? | 06:59 |
| joycetick | do you if i could run utorrent under wine as a service? so i dont need to login for it to start | 07:00 |
| nealmcb | you want to seed something? | 07:00 |
| joycetick | and download freely distributable files of course :) | 07:01 |
| joycetick | i can manage the torrents through the web interface on another computer | 07:01 |
| * nealmcb now has evidence that it is time for bed :-/ | 07:02 | |
| nealmcb | I don't know about utorrent, but I wouldn't see why not - just set up a script in /etc/init.d and link it in to run on startup | 07:03 |
| nealmcb | assuming it can run without a terminal | 07:03 |
| nealmcb | configure it to run automatically with one of these: sysv-rc-conf, bum, rcconf and file-rc | 07:05 |
| joycetick | so, create a file eg /etc/init.d/utorrent, and include the command to run utorrent in there | 07:05 |
| nealmcb | and configure it with one of those tools so it is in /etc/rc2.d IIRC | 07:06 |
| joycetick | sorry, how would i do that? | 07:08 |
| joycetick | bash: sysv-rc-conf: command not found :( | 07:09 |
| nealmcb | joycetick: you'll have to read the man pages for that, or find howtos on the web - but it is pretty straightforward. I'm headed off now - good luck! | 07:10 |
| joycetick | nealmcb: ok thanks for your help | 07:10 |
| nealmcb | :-) | 07:10 |
| Gargoyle | Greetings | 13:14 |
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| kraut | moin | 15:25 |
| spiekey | hi | 15:31 |
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| DM| | can i set up a domain when setting up a web server? im not sure how this works, Is there a way to do it where i dont have to PAY anyone | 16:03 |
| ivoks | you have to buy domain | 16:04 |
| zul | well you can get one of those freedomains as well like dyndns | 16:05 |
| ivoks | true... | 16:05 |
| Nafallo | you could have an internal only domain... | 16:07 |
| ivoks | you don't even need a domain :) | 16:07 |
| DM| | I have a dyndns, but i wanted my own @mydomainname | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | localhost.localdomain is included with the package ;-). a complete FQDN :-) | 16:08 |
| ivoks | Nafallo: for free :) | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | DM|: that. you'll have to pay for. | 16:08 |
| DM| | thatss gay | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | s/\./\,/ | 16:08 |
| zul | DM|: then you have to pay for it | 16:08 |
| Nafallo | DM|: no. makes sense. | 16:08 |
| DM| | Nafallo only to one who knows about it, to the outsiders, it doesnt | 16:09 |
| Nafallo | DM|: you'll have to trust my word on it then. | 16:09 |
| DM| | Not questioning your word :) | 16:09 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 16:09 |
| ivoks | it would be great if i could just say, ok, from now 'cocacola.com' is mine | 16:10 |
| DM| | well i got dyndns working so i gues that will work | 16:10 |
| Nafallo | woha! 15 minutes until I can install my smurf! :-D | 16:10 |
| DM| | Can i set up ubuntu-server to be an FTP ? | 16:10 |
| zul | yes | 16:10 |
| Nafallo | DM|: dyndns has a nice service called mydyndns as well. | 16:10 |
| DM| | Nafallo paid ? | 16:10 |
| Nafallo | DM|: yes | 16:10 |
| DM| | see | 16:10 |
| DM| | im poor | 16:11 |
| DM| | so that doesnt work for me | 16:11 |
| Nafallo | DM|: they provide supreme services :-) | 16:11 |
| ivoks | hm... domains are cheap | 16:11 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: I buy their service to use them as slaves :-) | 16:11 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: so for me, domains scale depending on what service level I want ;-) | 16:12 |
| ivoks | i don't use dyndns | 16:12 |
| ivoks | i have one server with it's domain, and then i use bind to scale down domain1.mydomain.com, computer1.domain1.mydomain.com :) | 16:12 |
| Nafallo | not sure if this is the channel, but does the RaQ 4's need special memory modules? | 16:13 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: well, ns1.magicalforest.se has ns[2-5].mydyndns.org as slaves :-P | 16:13 |
| Nafallo | for the primary zone anyway. | 16:14 |
| DM| | anyone have a good guide for setting up FTP? | 16:16 |
| Nafallo | help.ubuntu.com probably has somewhere. | 16:16 |
| DM| | Yeah just to set up | 16:21 |
| DM| | well, install | 16:21 |
| DM| | but not how to access | 16:21 |
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| Nafallo | ehhrm | 16:26 |
| Nafallo | how do you usually access ftp? | 16:26 |
| Nafallo | <hint> ftp client </hint> | 16:27 |
| DM| | well | 16:31 |
| DM| | from connect to server, or from map network drive if accessing from windows | 16:31 |
| ivoks | DM|: you do know you are asking us how to use computer? | 16:31 |
| DM| | ivoks ..... | 16:31 |
| zylmak | hello | 16:32 |
| DM| | ivoks i seriously doubt ":how to i access the FTP server after i set it up" is a "how do I use a computer, don't be a jerk | 16:32 |
| zylmak | i have a problem when i use ls all file are in white except one who is in red, what does that mean? | 16:33 |
| zylmak | and how do i delete it | 16:34 |
| ivoks | red is broken link, probably | 16:35 |
| zylmak | is there a way to fix it? | 16:37 |
| ivoks | check with ls -dl filename | 16:37 |
| ivoks | it will show a destination file | 16:37 |
| ivoks | if there is no such file, create it, or erase that broken link | 16:38 |
| ivoks | that's called dangling symlink | 16:38 |
| ivoks | and is a big security issue | 16:38 |
| Nafallo | DM|: | 16:38 |
| Nafallo | DM|: http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-188,subcat-BUILDING.html | 16:38 |
| DM| | thanks | 16:38 |
| zylmak | ok how do i delete it and do an other one | 16:38 |
| ivoks | rm filename | 16:38 |
| zylmak | no i mean the link | 16:39 |
| zylmak | rm dosent work | 16:39 |
| ivoks | zylmak: do ls -dl filename | 16:40 |
| zylmak | 001-alboscn -> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default | 16:40 |
| ivoks | rm 001-alboscn | 16:40 |
| zylmak | the file default was renamed to 001-alboscn | 16:41 |
| ivoks | you need sudo if you aren't root | 16:41 |
| Nafallo | zylmak: no it was not. | 16:41 |
| zylmak | thats what i did | 16:41 |
| Nafallo | zylmak: the file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/001-alboscn was linked to /etc/apache2/sites-available/default | 16:41 |
| Nafallo | or do you mean 001-default to 001-alboscn | 16:43 |
| Nafallo | ? | 16:43 |
| zylmak | ok that what i did : 1 rn 000-default 001-alboscn then rn default alboscn | 16:44 |
| ScottK | Do we now have a policy for the server team that suggests assigning bugs to the team is OK? I got a couple yesterday and another just now. | 16:44 |
| DM| | im using gftp right now, is there a better ftp client for GTK? | 16:44 |
| Nafallo | zylmak: yea, so you're link points to the wrong file because fo that... | 16:44 |
| zylmak | but obviously i didnt understand the link, so the first thing witch one have to be the real one? | 16:45 |
| Nafallo | DM|: depends on personal taste. | 16:45 |
| DM| | i like simplicity, any suggestions? | 16:45 |
| ivoks | DM|: this is server channel - we don't use GUI | 16:46 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: speak for yourself ;-) | 16:46 |
| ivoks | :) | 16:46 |
| DM| | ivoks stop commenting please, you arent helping. | 16:46 |
| ivoks | Nafallo: we agreed on parsing questions around here | 16:47 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: GUI is good for having lots of terminals topened ;-) | 16:47 |
| ivoks | so we don't do GUI related questions | 16:47 |
| Nafallo | s/to/o/ | 16:47 |
| ScottK | Really they belong in #ubuntu. | 16:47 |
| Nafallo | lftp fqdn | 16:47 |
| Nafallo | user user | 16:47 |
| Nafallo | ls | 16:47 |
| Nafallo | there ya go ;-) | 16:47 |
| ivoks | lftp is fine :) ncftp too :) | 16:48 |
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| ivoks | conclusion was that we want to add 'support' to this channel, but only for server related stuff | 16:49 |
| ivoks | topic says all | 16:49 |
| Nafallo | yea | 16:49 |
| DM| | If you dont like what the question is, dont respond to it | 16:49 |
| ivoks | DM|: your question is exaplained in topic of the channel | 16:51 |
| ivoks | 'For general (not server specific) support visit #ubuntu' | 16:51 |
| DM| | ivoks i was having a CONVERSATION with Nafallo as a suggestion | 16:52 |
| ivoks | guys, we have to draw a line, otherwise we will have too much noise :/ | 16:52 |
| Nafallo | DM|: no you wasn't. you asked me a question and I googled for you. | 16:52 |
| DM| | ivoks and you waste alot of time to be a DB about it. | 16:52 |
| DM| | Nafallo and i quote "any suggestions?" | 16:52 |
| Nafallo | DM|: anyway. stop it now. #ubuntu is the place. | 16:53 |
| DM| | Thanks for the help anyway | 16:53 |
| ivoks | nealmcb: hi there | 16:55 |
| nealmcb | ivoks: howdy! I'm hanging out with some folks from boulder at the django sprint | 16:57 |
| nealmcb | http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Sprint1Dec2007 | 16:57 |
| soren | nealmcb: Oh, cool! | 16:57 |
| ivoks | nice | 16:57 |
| ivoks | soren: you are here too :) | 16:57 |
| soren | ivoks: Sssh... don't tell anyone. | 16:57 |
| ivoks | Sore...who? | 16:58 |
| nealmcb | jim is working on the final push to get django working on jython | 16:58 |
| ivoks | soren: so, what now? i don't mind doing all mail related stuff by default | 16:59 |
| ivoks | do we have agreement on that, or should we discuss it at the meeting? | 16:59 |
| soren | ivoks: Well, as far as I could see, all the changes you wanted to make to dovecot could be applied on all systems with no downsides. | 17:00 |
| soren | ivoks: (apart from the maildir thing) | 17:00 |
| ivoks | and postfix support | 17:00 |
| soren | ivoks: ? | 17:00 |
| ivoks | some of changes are postfix-only changes | 17:00 |
| ivoks | authorization part is done inside postfix jail | 17:00 |
| ivoks | check out that patch, it requires having postfix installed | 17:01 |
| soren | Right. I was just talking about dovecot. | 17:01 |
| ivoks | soren: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10629598/tasksel.diff | 17:01 |
| soren | Are you changing anything in dovecot's configuration that requires postfix to be around? | 17:01 |
| ivoks | yes | 17:01 |
| ivoks | we have to | 17:01 |
| soren | Aw, crap. | 17:01 |
| ivoks | cause postfix is jailed | 17:01 |
| soren | Right. | 17:02 |
| soren | Erm.. | 17:03 |
| soren | Well, /var/run/dovecot/auth-client is really the proper place for the socket. | 17:03 |
| ivoks | but postfix doesn't see it then | 17:03 |
| soren | ...so some way to get postfix to be able to access it would be optimal, but I don't have any good suggestions for that right now. | 17:03 |
| ivoks | there is exaclty the same problem with all other sasl implementations | 17:04 |
| ivoks | that's why we are doing this trough default mail server install | 17:04 |
| soren | True. | 17:05 |
| ivoks | to provide super mail server without any need to do editing configuration, linking and stuff... | 17:05 |
| ivoks | and, for those that know what they are oding, they could always do it by hand | 17:05 |
| soren | got it. | 17:06 |
| ivoks | we could divide this patch in two pieces | 17:06 |
| ivoks | one would be general dovecot improvments | 17:06 |
| ivoks | and everything else would go in tasksel | 17:06 |
| * soren considers how bind mounts and unix sockets work together | 17:07 | |
| ivoks | that corss my mind too | 17:07 |
| Nafallo | hmmm | 17:07 |
| Nafallo | 5pm...maybe I should get out of bed... | 17:08 |
| soren | That might actually work. | 17:08 |
| soren | google speaks of a few people who did it to access the X unix sockets. | 17:08 |
| soren | It's worth a try. | 17:09 |
| ivoks | we could try yes... | 17:09 |
| soren | Could you do that? | 17:09 |
| ivoks | yes | 17:09 |
| soren | That would be excellent. | 17:09 |
| soren | dovecot | 17:09 |
| soren | 's init script could check if /var/run/postfix exists and if so, bindmount /var/run/dovecot/auth-client into it somewhere. | 17:09 |
| ivoks | other way around | 17:10 |
| ivoks | postfix should check | 17:10 |
| lamont | we can force the ordering of the startup, you know | 17:10 |
| ivoks | of course we can | 17:10 |
| ivoks | dovecot should start first | 17:10 |
| Nafallo | what are you doing? :-) | 17:10 |
| soren | ivoks: Good point. | 17:10 |
| lamont | Nafallo: conspiring, of course. | 17:10 |
| * lamont is about to run out the door for the day | 17:11 | |
| lamont | about 2 hours late, but ... | 17:11 |
| Nafallo | lamont: mails filed into postgresql? ;-) | 17:11 |
| soren | lamont: Have you tried the unix socket bind mount thing? | 17:11 |
| ivoks | umm... | 17:11 |
| lamont | soren: I believe that it works... | 17:11 |
| soren | lamont: Wicked. | 17:11 |
| ivoks | maybe dovecot could listen on localhost? | 17:11 |
| soren | we win. | 17:11 |
| lamont | dunno that I've ever tried. it... | 17:11 |
| ivoks | instead of socket :) | 17:11 |
| lamont | the easy one to check with is the syslog socket, and then syslog restart and see if postfix logging still works.. :) | 17:12 |
| lamont | or something like that | 17:12 |
| ivoks | i could also, really, look at possibility to get dovecot listen on localhost:someport | 17:13 |
| ivoks | i would really like to escape additional mounts in my 'mount' output :) | 17:13 |
| soren | ivoks: That would be good, too :) | 17:13 |
| soren | I've got to run.. | 17:16 |
| * soren vanishes | 17:16 | |
| * ScottK votes no on SQL mail storage and slaps Nafallo with a cold, dead, wet fish. | 17:17 | |
| Nafallo | lol | 17:17 |
| ivoks | looks like listening on ip address doesn't work :/ | 17:37 |
| ivoks | or... :) | 17:37 |
| ScottK | For stuff I've modified to be postfix chroot friendly, I've used TCP sockets. Would that be an option with dovecot? | 17:39 |
| ivoks | that's what i'm looking at | 17:40 |
| ScottK | I did that for clamav-milter and dkim-milter. | 17:41 |
| ivoks | no way to get dovecot listen on tcp port | 17:55 |
| ivoks | ok, then binding during postfix startup is an option... | 17:56 |
| rrittenhouse | Im trying to set up a DNS server with the gutsy server cd and it doesnt seem to be working! I am however getting denied messages in the syslog | 17:58 |
| ivoks | you have to configure it | 17:59 |
| rrittenhouse | im a newbie at dns but i noticed when i install bind9 in a desktop install it just works | 17:59 |
| rrittenhouse | i figured it would be the same way | 17:59 |
| rrittenhouse | I dont need to specify any domains I just need it to look them all up with other dns servers | 18:00 |
| rrittenhouse | I cannot get to a group of clients that were on an old web server box I had | 18:00 |
| rrittenhouse | so I just need it to very basically look up IP's | 18:00 |
| ivoks | you need bind only if other machines are going to use that server for lookups | 18:01 |
| rrittenhouse | ah got it | 18:02 |
| ivoks | if your server is the only one that needs to search for IPs | 18:03 |
| rrittenhouse | the IP's were being denied - its basically an open dns server now | 18:03 |
| ivoks | right | 18:03 |
| rrittenhouse | but this is very temporary | 18:03 |
| rrittenhouse | so, awesome :) | 18:03 |
| ivoks | i don't see why you would need DNS service | 18:03 |
| ivoks | just add '192.168.0.1 my_server_1' to /etc/hosts | 18:04 |
| ivoks | replace 192.168.0.1 with real IP | 18:04 |
| rrittenhouse | no no see | 18:04 |
| rrittenhouse | i took over this IT department and for some reason the old admin had dns on the webserver | 18:05 |
| ivoks | ok | 18:05 |
| rrittenhouse | we switched the webserver to a new ISP last night and dns was on that box | 18:05 |
| ivoks | so you don't have DNS anymore? | 18:05 |
| rrittenhouse | we set up apache to capture the web requests and to throw up a maintenance page | 18:05 |
| rrittenhouse | and the old admin had a group of people set up externally using that DNS | 18:06 |
| rrittenhouse | at another one of our businesses that we support | 18:06 |
| rrittenhouse | They just need DNS monday until we can get up there to change it | 18:06 |
| ivoks | then you need bind | 18:06 |
| ivoks | and you have to configure it | 18:07 |
| rrittenhouse | yeah | 18:07 |
| rrittenhouse | its done now | 18:07 |
| rrittenhouse | at least it appears to work :P | 18:07 |
| rrittenhouse | just had to allow anybody to access it (which is fine) | 18:07 |
| rrittenhouse | actually its cgillogly -- hes the one at work today.. im just trying to help him find answers | 18:07 |
| rrittenhouse | but it appears to work and im using it here from home | 18:08 |
| ivoks | so, you are open dns for all domains now? :) | 18:09 |
| rrittenhouse | is that a problem? | 18:09 |
| ivoks | well, anybody could ask your dns about any domain in the world | 18:11 |
| rrittenhouse | yeah | 18:11 |
| ivoks | if you are ok with that... | 18:11 |
| rrittenhouse | until monday | 18:11 |
| rrittenhouse | i think the old one was like that anyhow :) | 18:11 |
| ivoks | i keep my dns open only for domains it hosts | 18:11 |
| rrittenhouse | ah i see | 18:12 |
| ivoks | there are two 'directions' in DNS | 18:12 |
| ivoks | one is - world asking about your domain | 18:12 |
| ivoks | and the other is - your domain is asking about world domains | 18:12 |
| rrittenhouse | yeah... | 18:12 |
| ivoks | you need to enable whole world to resolv your hostnames | 18:12 |
| ivoks | but not anything else | 18:12 |
| ivoks | and then you have to enable your computers to use your DNS to resolve all domains in the world | 18:13 |
| rrittenhouse | hmm | 18:13 |
| ivoks | look at your clients as your domain | 18:13 |
| rrittenhouse | ok | 18:13 |
| ivoks | allow-query should be any | 18:14 |
| ivoks | and allow-recursion should be only clients you trust | 18:14 |
| ScottK | That one can be important. | 18:14 |
| rrittenhouse | I need to see if i even have the IP's for that business | 18:15 |
| rrittenhouse | hm | 18:15 |
| rrittenhouse | It actually might just be coming from one public IP | 18:15 |
| ivoks | if they are on a dynamic IP, they you are doomed :) | 18:15 |
| rrittenhouse | theres one public and the internals are all dhcp | 18:16 |
| rrittenhouse | usual natted setup i believe | 18:16 |
| ivoks | http://www.ip-plus.net/tools/dns_check_set.en.html | 18:17 |
| ivoks | use this tool to check your DNS | 18:17 |
| ivoks | your dns server should return results only for your domain | 18:17 |
| ivoks | but, if you have client on a dynamic IP, you will have to provide access to all on allow-recursion | 18:18 |
| ivoks | that's a bad thing, but hopefully till monday you won't have problems :D | 18:18 |
| rrittenhouse | lol | 18:18 |
| rrittenhouse | what could it enable someone to do? | 18:19 |
| ivoks | hopefully nothing | 18:19 |
| rrittenhouse | im just trying to see why its so bad | 18:19 |
| rrittenhouse | like i said im a noob at dns :P | 18:19 |
| ivoks | but you are providing usually private service to everybody | 18:19 |
| rrittenhouse | like opendns | 18:19 |
| rrittenhouse | :P | 18:19 |
| ivoks | there are some open dns | 18:20 |
| ivoks | right | 18:20 |
| rrittenhouse | thats fine though really | 18:20 |
| rrittenhouse | if someone really needs dns that bad they can use it lol | 18:20 |
| rrittenhouse | its only 2 t1's | 18:20 |
| atouk | xp box can access server with either server name or ip, but ubuntu box can only access it via ip. any thoughts? | 18:50 |
| Burgundavia | atouk: is it part of an AD tree? | 19:32 |
| atouk | ?? | 19:35 |
| atouk | ubuntu server setup with fixed ip. i can put either ip or servername in address bar in xp and it finds it, but in ubuntu firefox,only ip will find it | 19:37 |
| Haesufin | G'day I have something weird going on, i am logged onto my server(ssh) and can ping my server but it cant ping anything or connect to the net | 19:39 |
| ScottK | atouk: If it's in firefox, it's not a server question. Please ask in #ubuntu. | 19:40 |
| Haesufin | it's a new install (tonight) and have only installed ssh and samba | 19:41 |
| atouk | so it's a ff behaviour then | 19:42 |
| atouk | ok, that makes life easier | 19:42 |
| ScottK | atouk: I don't know what it is, but if you're running Firefox on it, it's not a server and this isn't the place to ask. | 19:51 |
| sommer | atouk: does the ubuntu server have an A record in DNS? | 19:53 |
| atouk | not running ON it, accesing it WITH on 7.10 box accesing it with XP works by name or ip. I was just making sure it wasn't some odd setting on the server box i missed that was causing it | 19:53 |
| atouk | not really an issue, just an annoyance | 19:54 |
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| sommer | atouk: try adding "search your.domain" to /etc/resolv.conf | 19:55 |
| atouk | k | 19:55 |
| sommer | and just so I'm clear you're trying to access server.domain.name from another ubuntu client and it doesn't work by name? but it works from XP? | 19:56 |
| atouk | server box is names 'server1'. if i type server1 in url line in XP, it finds it. if i type same thing from 7.10 (ff) url line, it doesn't | 19:57 |
| atouk | (named) | 19:57 |
| sommer | atouk: add "127.0.0.1 server1 your.domain" to /etc/hosts... or use localhost in the address bar | 19:58 |
| sommer | atouk: samba server? | 19:58 |
| atouk | apache | 19:59 |
| atouk | server is on it's own box | 19:59 |
| sommer | mmmMM... seems like a /etc/hosts issue to me... | 19:59 |
| atouk | 7.10 and xp are seperate boxes | 20:00 |
| sommer | atouk: okay, but the 7.10 you are talking about is the server? and you are typing server1 into ff on the server? | 20:00 |
| sommer | ff running on the server correct? | 20:01 |
| atouk | server1 -> ubuntu-server install | 20:01 |
| atouk | 1.20 --> seperate box with full 7.10 install | 20:01 |
| atouk | oops 7.10 | 20:02 |
| sommer | so you're accessing server1 from the 1.20 box and it can't connect using the name server1? | 20:02 |
| Haesufin | Got it fixed with sudo-v, cheers for your help | 20:02 |
| atouk | gah two conversations at once | 20:02 |
| sommer | atouk: basically for a linux machine to resolve by name you need an entry in /etc/hosts or an dns entry and the search domain.name in /etc/resolv.conf | 20:03 |
| atouk | if i tper server name into xp browser url line it finds it. if i type name into ff url line on a 7.10 install, it doesn't | 20:03 |
| sommer | atouk: did you try adding the entry into /etc/resolv.conf? | 20:04 |
| atouk | not yet. as long as i know it's not a fubar on server, i'm ok with it | 20:05 |
| sommer | atouk: more info on /etc/resolv.conf: http://users.ictp.it/~radionet/ghana1998/INSTALL/NODE214.HTM | 20:06 |
| sommer | atouk: you can use the "search" option or the "domain" option... to get the same results | 20:07 |
| sommer | atouk: you might also read up on /etc/hosts: http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap9sec95.html | 20:07 |
| atouk | server is going into lan at work to feed sp boxes, so if it's not a server side problem, i'm just leaving it alone | 20:08 |
| rodneykk | whats the difference between the kernel.domainname in sysctl.conf and the dnsdomainname command | 20:08 |
| atouk | (xp boxes) | 20:08 |
| sommer | atouk: have you tried the fully qualified domain name in firefox? | 20:11 |
| atouk | yeah, still goes outside looking for page | 20:13 |
| atouk | but xp handles it ok, so not an issue | 20:13 |
| atouk | i'll not bother it anymore. time for some wine | 20:14 |
| atouk | i'll just end up fixing it until it's REALLY broke | 20:15 |
| sommer | atouk: okay, well if you decide to look at it again, look into /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/hosts... my money says that will solve the issue. | 20:16 |
| atouk | since it's doing what it's needed to, i'll just drink moderately and pretend i never noticed it | 20:17 |
| sommer | party! | 20:19 |
| ganton516 | Should a BIOS RAID array be set up when using dmraid, or should it be disabled ? | 22:02 |
| ganton516 | Should a BIOS RAID array be set up when using dmraid, or should it be disabled ? | 22:14 |
| nealmcb | that's the second room ganton516 has entered and left - at least this time he asked the actual question - so the long topic might actually be helping | 22:31 |
| Omnius | anyone know much about bridge-utils?? | 23:07 |
| Omnius | I can set it up alright but cannot assign a gateway address to the psudo interface | 23:11 |
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