[00:00] <PirateHead> moh: in System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[00:00] <riaal> TTY=pts is from a local terminal and TTY=tty Is fron an ssh/telnet session?
[00:00] <PirateHead> moh: see if it tells you you need to install file sharing support
[00:00] <riddareralf> PirateHead, Why should I use public ftp? Then it only tries to connect anonymously, so I couldn't enter my usr and pwd
[00:00] <rondonson> JJtech, ah it loaded up , for some reason it just doesnt show me the process of it loading everything , thanks
[00:00] <DanThirst> Any one know more about video driver, and monitor setups >_>
[00:00] <JJtech> rondonson: ^_^     kk.. np :)
[00:01] <PirateHead> riddareralf: If you don't want to connect publicly, use the FTP (with login) option.
[00:01] <riddareralf> PirateHead, I CAN'T connect publicly. But with this virtual drive I can't open a file on the fly and edit
[00:01] <riddareralf> PirateHead, But I suppose that's normal since it's still FTP
[00:02] <zstars> So people, what do you do if you erase your PATH? How can you restore it to default or whatever?
[00:02] <PirateHead> riddareralf: Some programs, ones that have built-in support for Gnome VFS, will be able to edit "on the fly" as you say, without having to download, edit, and upload.
[00:02] <soldats> DanThirst, do you have the graphics drivers enabled as well
[00:02] <smth> dfd
[00:02] <DanThirst> i think how would i find out ?
[00:03] <PirateHead> riddareralf: Other programs don't have that support, but you might be able to find it in a plugin or patch if it's important to your workflow.
[00:03] <riddareralf> PirateHead, Ah okay, thanks
[00:03] <soldats> DanThirst, view this page and see if it helps http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[00:03] <JJtech> !download
[00:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[00:03] <smth> hi it's me
[00:04] <PirateHead> Is there a way in Ubuntu to upgrade to the latest version of Wine without breaking anything?
[00:05] <soldats> PirateHead, what would you break
[00:06] <PirateHead> soldats: My current Wine installation, the one that came with stock Gutsy.
[00:06] <seekay> non-LTS ubuntu releases get security updates for 18 months, right?
[00:06] <soldats> PirateHead, i really dont think upgrading it will hurt your system in any way
[00:07] <Grav3Mind> hey guys how can i install an icon package?
[00:07] <Grav3Mind> i just downloaded an osx one ^_^
[00:07] <PirateHead> soldats: Alrighty then, here goes nothing. :-)
[00:07] <JJtech> !icon
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:07] <JJtech> !package
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:07] <CaptainMorgan> !pixmaps
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pixmaps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:07] <JJtech> !LAN
[00:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:08] <ShaunB> Hello from a serious newb
[00:08] <CaptainMorgan> !google
[00:08] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[00:08] <Grav3Mind> anyone know how i can install the icon packages?
[00:09] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: hi there again... just untar the files into your .icons folder
[00:09] <ShaunB> Anyone here know how to fix apt-get / synaptec ?
[00:09] <CaptainMorgan> Grav3Mind, maybe google does?
[00:09] <Grav3Mind> hey jayde ^_^
[00:09] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, depends on which application he is installing icons for
[00:09] <soldats> ShaunB, what is wrong with it
[00:09] <ShaunB> Spits out this error whenever I attempt an update or install a package.Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[00:09] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind: home/yourname/ hidden files .icons    thoe true
[00:10] <soldats> ShaunB, are the download mirrors correct
[00:10] <ShaunB> They appear to be
[00:10] <ShaunB> I've run apt-get update
[00:10] <Grav3Mind> should there be a index.theme and development and scalable folders?
[00:10] <ShaunB> And run apt-get autoremove
[00:10] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: true... tho i just drag and drop when i'm just changing an icons picture
[00:11] <fungz0r> so what interesting things can i do with ubuntu
[00:11] <fungz0r> i just installed
[00:11] <ShaunB> that shows some packages that can be removed yet it wont uninstall/install anything
[00:11] <soldats> ShaunB, when doing apt-get you need to specify the package name as well
[00:11] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  unless captain knows of another way .. if you want to change the picture of an icon .. like on my desktop.. i just went into properties.. and dragged the picture of what i wanted onto the picture of whats showsn in properties and it changes... i haven't figured out how to make it system wide yet tho
[00:11] <Micheru> hi all, i just set up ssh and i can ssh to localhost fine, but when i ssh from wan i get connected to my router, how would i get to my computer (router is 10.1.1.1 computer is 10.1.1.4 if it helps)
[00:12] <soldats> ShaunB, like apt-get install pidgin or apt-get autoremove pidgin
[00:12] <ShaunB> If I use synaptec, it gives me the same error in the console window
[00:12] <Evanlec> um why did i just get 10 dcc requests to send me Fedora 8 iso ?
[00:12] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: spammer, I should think
[00:12] <virtuososteve> fedora 8 isn't very good
[00:12] <astro76> Micheru, you need to forward port 22 to 10.1.1.4
[00:12] <gordonjcp> Evanlec: some little kiddy undoubtedly found it very funny
[00:12] <soldats> Evanlec, yes it is a spammer you may be redirected if it happens a lot
[00:12] <ShaunB> Funny thing is it references Hotplug yet says its not installed when I try to remove
[00:12] <Micheru> ah, thought it would be something like that thanks
[00:12] <Laney>  /window level -JOINS -PARTS -QUITS -NICKS
[00:12] <PirateHead> fungz0r: There are lots of cool things you can do.
[00:12] <Laney> Err, oops.
[00:13] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: do you know how to change the icon picture for where it shows up on the ... um whats the ubuntu equivalent of taskbar? t
[00:13] <ShaunB> Here is the c/v of the error
[00:13] <Grav3Mind> ah see i wanna make it system
[00:13] <ShaunB> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1685 package `module-init-tools': `Replaces' field, reference to `hotplug': version contains `)'E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[00:13] <Evanlec> soldats, okay, redirected?
[00:13] <PirateHead> fungz0r: If you're new to Desktop Linux in general, you definitely want to check out the awesome selection of free apps you can download. (Applications -> Add/Remove...)
[00:13] <fungz0r> oo kk thanks
[00:13] <soldats> ShaunB, hmm ive never seen that error
[00:14] <ShaunB> Because of that, it seems I can't install anything.
[00:14] <Triskaidekaphobi> what causes this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46195/ when trying to compile in a new module?
[00:14] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, icons tend to fall in: /usr/share/icons/
[00:14] <rondonson> fungz0r, compiz is pretty cool
[00:14] <soldats> Evanlec, if you keep getting dcc requests youll be redirected to #ubuntu-???
[00:14] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, right-click the menu or application and select "Edit Menu"
[00:14] <fungz0r> whats compiz?
[00:14] <ShaunB> fungz0r: 3D desktop + effects
[00:14] <fungz0r> oo
[00:14] <fungz0r> how do i get it?
[00:14] <jayde_drag0n> Grav3Mind:  from what i see under appearance customize... in icons... the things i untarred into .themes seem to show up in there as well
[00:14] <Evanlec> soldats, right but why me? im connected via port 8001 which i thot prevented this issue
[00:14] <PirateHead> fungz0r: Compiz makes the computer look a lot glitzier. 3D effects and so on.
[00:15] <jcsteele> i am having some troubles with the forum, it seems whenever I post a long reply, and then click on "submit" firefox just hangs and does nothing...if I log out and log back in, and then try to reply again with the copied text from my previous post....it still hangs. I can post to any other thread with no problems, and this has occured twice now on 2 different threads...any ideas?
[00:15] <PirateHead> fungz0r: You need a graphics card and driver, first of all.
[00:15] <gilnim> hi
[00:15] <jane_> ShaunB, try  sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[00:15] <fungz0r> haha yeah i got that :P
[00:15] <soldats> Evanlec, not sure its just lame kiddies trying to be funny
[00:15] <PirateHead> fungz0r: assuming you have a graphics card, go to the Restricted Drivers manager and enable a graphics driver.
[00:15] <Micheru> astro76: i am still getting the router on ssh, i have port forwarded as you said
[00:15] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, once things are changed there, it will typically change what's showing for the taskbar icon
[00:15] <Evanlec> soldats, yea i know
[00:15] <soldats> they get random people
[00:15] <PirateHead> fungz0r: You could possibly use an Open Source one, but they are notoriously bad and under-powered compared to the restricted ones.
[00:15] <jcsteele> is there any illegal character combinations that I need be aware of or anything?
[00:15] <gilnim> What's the comment for scanning all devices. I want to know where my hdd are.
[00:16] <diafic> Someone name a web-based torrent client?
[00:16] <ShaunB> jane_: error - dpkg: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)
[00:16] <PirateHead> gilnim: lspci
[00:16] <astro76> Micheru, also you need to connect to the external public IP, not 10.1.1.1 which is the internal IP, and you probably can't do it from behind your router
[00:16] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: i think i've done that... i went to edit menu... then went to the properties of each individual item and changed the picture... but while it shows up as the correct icon in the menu... it doesnt when its launched where it sits on the upper right of my screen
[00:16] <fungz0r> when i go to restricted drivers manager, says that my hardware does not need any drivers
[00:16] <fuma218> hello, have an issue connecting to a windows share
[00:16] <gilnim> PirateHead: thanks
[00:16] <PirateHead> gilnim: no problem.
[00:16] <fuma218> i am able to mount the share with the correct username and password, but i am unable to open anything. I get an Input/output error
[00:16] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, you may need to restart your windowing system
[00:16] <Micheru> astro76: why not, i am connecting to my external ip (using a dyndns url)
[00:17] <PirateHead> fungz0r: Assuming that it's telling the truth, the next thing depends on whether you are on Feisty or Gutsy.
[00:17] <ShaunB> jane_: first console said dpkg: conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)
[00:17] <PirateHead> (or Dapper)
[00:17] <Micheru> as in why wouldn't i be able to do that?
[00:17] <ShaunB> oops...sorry it said dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[00:17] <fungz0r> on using gutsy
[00:17] <jane_> ShaunB sems type    --reconfigure                  2 --
[00:18] <EjChris> alguem me chamo?
[00:18] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: well i believe a reboot will accomplish the same thing.. and i've done that since making the changes.. and it didn't change... or is that a specific command that a reboot doesn't fix?
[00:18] <jane_> ShaunB,  typo
[00:18] <PirateHead> fungz0r: In that case, you can very easily enable Compiz by going to System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[00:18] <astro76> Micheru, only if your router supports nat relfection will that work
[00:18] <tacone> hello, question:
[00:18] <tacone> ctrl+alt+backspace reset the box, not only X
[00:18] <PirateHead> fungz0r: From that point, go to Visual Effects (the last tab), and enable one of the 3D Effects options.
[00:18] <Micheru> astro76: apparantly not then i will try from another bot thanks for the help
[00:18] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, hmmm... I've made icon changes many times...
[00:19] <tacone> can somebody help me resolve that ?
[00:19] <CaptainMorgan> jayde_drag0n, *successfully.. so I'm not sure what's wrong with yours
[00:19] <fungz0r> which effects should i do?
[00:19] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: i'll take a new screenshot with the menu showing so you can see what i see.. i might not be explaining right
[00:19] <mikebeecham> can anyone explain how I get Sonata to work?  It's all a little confusing for me?
[00:19] <PirateHead> fungz0r: I suggest the Extra effects, for the most wow-effect right out of the box.
[00:19] <ShaunB> jane_: Help doesn't show a reconfigure but a configure so I used that instead, and it gave me this output: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1685 package `module-init-tools': `Replaces' field, reference to `hotplug': version contains `)'
[00:19] <PirateHead> fungz0r: However, there is an advanced effects configurator that allows you to customize and totally soup up the effects engine.
[00:20] <fungz0r> oo kk compiz fusion just showed up
[00:20] <fuma218> anyone worked with mounting windows shares with samba?
[00:20] <tamer_> how can i see my ram size on ubuntu???
[00:20] <UBUNTUISLOVED> is there an easy way to restart network manager dameon through command line?
[00:20] <gilnim> i want to mount my ntfs hdd. normal mount doesn't work
[00:20] <ZaNGaMaN> hi there i have a little problem
[00:20] <soldats> tacone, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_disable_Ctrl.2BAlt.2BBackspace_from_restarting_X_in_GNOME
[00:20] <jane_> ShanB   sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[00:21] <ShaunB> k lemme try that
[00:21] <gilnim> PirateHead: lspci doen't list my hdd's
[00:21] <soldats> tamer_, type free in a terminal window
[00:21] <pipo> i was wondering how to find out the name of my network wifi card on my laptop running ubuntu (noob here)
[00:21] <PirateHead> tamer_: For RAM info, you can use the System Monitor (System -> Administration -> System Monitor) which will show you your total ram, vram, and ram usage.l
[00:21] <ZaNGaMaN> i cannot lissten to music and it does not alow me to fownload codecs i am using ubuntu
[00:21] <soldats> gilnim, type fdisk in a terminal
[00:21]  * CaptainMorgan will be back....
[00:21] <jcsteele> gilnim: man mount.ntfs-3g
[00:21] <riotkittie> PirateHead: open a terminal and type lspci
[00:21] <tacone> well
[00:21] <PirateHead> gilnim: lspci lists everything that HAL sees, so if it isn't listing your hdds, there is a problem somewhere down deeper.
[00:21] <tacone> i want it to restart gnome :-)
[00:21] <tacone> it restart everything :-)
[00:21] <tacone> i am reading thx
[00:22] <riotkittie> errr.
[00:22] <mikebeecham> is there a sonata channel, where I can get some info?
[00:22] <ZaNGaMaN> can enyone help me a litle
[00:22] <riotkittie> i suck at tab completion
[00:22] <soldats> tacone, it may be a config error so you may need to remap it
[00:22] <JJtech> !sonata
[00:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonata - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <ShaunB> jane_: still gives me this: dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[00:22] <kelsin> mikebeecham: what's the issue?
[00:22] <pipo> i was wondering how to find out the name of my network wifi card on my laptop running ubuntu (noob here) wow this channel is packed lol
[00:22] <PirateHead> riotkittie: Why should I type lspci?
[00:22] <tacone> soldats: where i find the config for that ?
[00:22] <mikebeecham> kelsin...I've installed sonata via the repos, and put into preferences what I THINK should be in there, but none of my music is showing?
[00:23] <skelter> hey all - having a problem where when i boot with my nvidia drivers enabled, something goes wrong and i have to use "low graphics mode", I think it's having issues detecting my monitor. with the drivers disabled, i don't have to use low graphics mode. can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:23] <riotkittie> PirateHead: if it seems totally nonsensical, the best thing to do is disregard, eh :P
[00:23] <soldats> tacone, if you read that wiki article it should explain how to do it
[00:23] <kelsin> mikebeecham: do you know if mpd is working?
[00:23] <fungz0r> what else can i do with compiz?
[00:23] <tacone> i am reading
[00:23] <riotkittie> pipo: open a terminal and type lspci ... or lshw -C network
[00:23] <mikebeecham> no....I've been using linux for about a week kelsin
[00:23] <tacone> i guess that's not the problem
[00:23] <ZaNGaMaN> Cannot install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse'
[00:23] <ZaNGaMaN> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[00:23] <ZaNGaMaN> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[00:23] <tacone> but i am trying
[00:23] <mikebeecham> kelsin...I mean I dont know
[00:23] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: its gunna take a minute.. little laggy
[00:23] <tamer_> hi every buddy please i need to know how can i check my computer ram on obuntu????
[00:23] <JJtech> !display
[00:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:23] <tigran> Hey. I've asked this question a couple times here, so I apologize if I get repetitive. My wireless connection is less than 20mbps. It should be 54mbps. I have an Atheros card and was using the restricted driver for it. Someone here told me to try ndiswrapper and I did. Though, it did no good. If anyone else has any other ideas I would greatly appreciate it.
[00:23] <ZaNGaMaN> can you tell me why/.?
[00:24] <riotkittie> tamer_: open a terminal and type free -h
[00:24] <riotkittie> tamer_: open a terminal and type free
[00:24] <pipo> riotkittie: thanks, i got a huge list of things how do I know which is my wifi card?
[00:24] <kelsin> mikebeecham: sonata is a frontend for mpd... I would recommend (unless you KNOW you want mpd) you look into banshee, rhythmbox, or listen as a music player
[00:24] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Are you using only G on the wifi to get 54mb
[00:24] <JJtech> tamer_: go to system>>>>administration>>>>system monitor
[00:24] <PirateHead> tamer_: For RAM info, you can use the System Monitor (System -> Administration -> System Monitor) which will show you your total ram, vram, and ram usage.l
[00:24] <tamer_> tnx alot my dera
[00:24] <UBUNTUISLOVED> if you use Wifi B mode it will downgrade to what is most stable
[00:24] <mikebeecham> kelsin....are there any benefits of mpd / sonata over rhythmbox?
[00:24] <riotkittie> pipo: try lspci | grep -i wireless
[00:25] <tamer_> ok tnx alot
[00:25] <tigran> UBUNTUISOLVED: Is that for me?
[00:25] <ZaNGaMaN> PirateHead:  can you help me a little bit i am newbie in linux
[00:25] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Yup
[00:25] <UBUNTUISLOVED> go into your router and check if Wifi b mode is off
[00:25] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: I can certainly try. Are you having any particular problem?
[00:25] <tigran> UBUNTUISOLVED: Let me check. and if I understood correctly, it should be G?
[00:25] <soldats> tacone, run this in a terminal instead of using the keys sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:25] <Evanlec> mikebeecham, lower resource usage, thats about it
[00:25] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Yes wifi G mode is the faster of the too
[00:25] <UBUNTUISLOVED> two
[00:25] <kelsin> mikebeecham: mpd is a daemon that runs in the background behind X, to play music... there are benefits and drawbacks. If you JUST need a iTunes like music player the other three are good. MPD just allows you to restart X without killing the music player (rarely useful unless you work in odd ways) or want to control the music playing from another computer
[00:26] <Kveldulf> Is there a chance I could get help with a problem installing?
[00:26] <mikebeecham> Evanlec: thanks
[00:26] <Evanlec> mikebeecham, i like rhythmbox, and if you're happy with it, you won't be happy with mpd/sonata
[00:26] <ZaNGaMaN> piratehead i cannot listen or play a movie ,and when i am trying to instal codec it gives me that eroor mesage that i post 2 minutes ago
[00:26] <UBUNTUISLOVED> also tigran what is your percent on network manager for strength of signal
[00:26] <mikebeecham> kelsin: Evanlec...I have used rhythmbox and I do like it...I've just trying all of Linux's lovely stuff before settling down, I guess
[00:26] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: I looked up and saw your error. How did you install Ubuntu?
[00:27] <tigran> UBUNTUISOLVED: It was G and B in my router, so I put G only now. Lets see if it makes a difference
[00:27] <pipo> riotkittie: i got this 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) so what is the name lol sorry for the dumb question
[00:27] <UBUNTUISLOVED> yea diid you reboot or save it in the router
[00:27] <mikebeecham> I used Exaile for a while, but it kept crashing, so Rhythmbox works fine
[00:27] <tigran> UBUNTUISOLVED:Saved in the router, its at 41% now, but even if its in the 90's its the same thing
[00:27] <jayde_drag0n> CaptainMorgan: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/jayde_dragon/Screenshot-2.png   okay in the picture you see the main menu and you see pidgin and ktorrent... and they have pretty icons... now i have both of those running and in the upper right they have different icons there.... but they did sucessfully change when i open the menu and look thru
[00:27] <PirateHead> mikebeecham: Rhythmbox just keeps getting better. I wish they would use a slightly slicker UI, though.
[00:27] <ZaNGaMaN> piratehead i downloaded from th einternet latest veriosn
[00:27] <semba> I've got a problem since updating my Feisty box to Gutsy today - it hangs during boot, spewing out tons of "Lost interrupt" messages about my PATA drives
[00:27] <ZaNGaMaN> and after that installed
[00:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> were are you reading this info
[00:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> where
[00:28]  * JJtech be right back..
[00:28] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: How are you trying to install the codecs?
[00:28] <Evanlec> mikebeecham, if u find rhythmbox is laacking in some features, u might try banshee as it has more features (tho none i ever needed)
[00:28] <mikebeecham> PirateHead: the audio codec seems to be a little crisper than itunes imo
[00:28] <ZaNGaMaN> p
[00:28] <skelter> i like amarok as a music player
[00:28] <tigran> UBUNTUISLOVED: The signal strenght?
[00:28] <soldats> mikebeecham, also amarok is really nice and has many features
[00:28] <UBUNTUISLOVED> on network manager?
[00:28] <mikebeecham> Evanlec: never heard of banshee
[00:28] <riotkittie> pipo: Intel 3945ABG -- i'm not personally familiar with that chipset but afaik, intel is easy to get working
[00:28] <skelter> amarok looks slick, searches music fast, and works well with my ipod
[00:28] <tigran> UBUNTUISLOVED: Yes
[00:28] <mikebeecham> soldats: I tried Amarok...it's too 'bubbly'
[00:28] <Evanlec> mikebeecham, its a similar one to itunes/rhytmbox
[00:28] <mikebeecham> I dont like all the glossy buttons
[00:29] <soldats> mikebeecham, to each his own then
[00:29] <ZaNGaMaN> piratehead i try to play a song ,and it now working and the program is loking for codecs he found some codec i pres to instal but it not alowing me
[00:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> what is your network card
[00:29] <pipo> oh ok no it works i just need the name for something else i was just really confused but thanks a lot
[00:29] <PirateHead> Evanlec: banshee is a music player built using Mono and C# by Novell. It's tied to the "Helix" community. It's a pretty nice player in general.
[00:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> brand name and model
[00:29] <semba> Booting the same system with a kernel I still have left over from Feisty works, so it's something different between the two kernel versions that is causing the "Lost interrupt" message.  Has anyone else seen this?
[00:29] <ZaNGaMaN> Cannot install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse'
[00:29] <jane_> ShaunB, very sory its          sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[00:29] <ZaNGaMaN> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[00:29] <ZaNGaMaN> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict.
[00:29] <tigran> UBUNTUISLOVED: Its an atheros. And lspci to check the model?
[00:29] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: I have no clue why that would be. It should just work - it certianly did for me.
[00:29] <ZaNGaMaN> this is my eroor mesage
[00:29] <Evanlec> PirateHead, thanks for the technical info ;p
[00:29] <fungz0r> does anybody have warcraft 3, frozen throne on their ubuntu?
[00:29] <kelsin> mikebeecham: if you def try banshee and listen, both are nice as well. If you really like the look of sonata google for "Mpd" and check out it's main site. That will explain alot, good luck
[00:29] <UBUNTUISLOVED> yes
[00:30] <tigran> UBUNTUISLOVED: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212/AR5213
[00:30] <brian994> WAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[00:30] <brian994> oops
[00:30] <pipo> just wondering how u guys put up with this channel lol, i would go crazy trying to help everyone
[00:30] <UBUNTUISLOVED> one sec
[00:30] <brian994> sorry
[00:30] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: However, perhaps you can get things working using VLC.
[00:30] <soldats> pipo, yea it goes by really fast
[00:30] <mikebeecham> going to look at banshee...see what thats like
[00:30] <soldats> pipo, we do what we can though
[00:30] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: To try that, go to Applications -> Add and Remove, then search for VLC.
[00:30] <ZaNGaMaN> pirate i wil instal kubuntu is more easy
[00:30] <tigran> I love this channel, so helpful and people don't flame :)
[00:30] <fungz0r> anybody have warcraft 3 installed?
[00:30] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: That's a bit drastic, but if you're wanting to give Kubuntu a try, go for it!
[00:31] <kelsin> fungz0r: I do
[00:31] <ZaNGaMaN> piratehead i belive that i instaled a version for amd 64 procesoors
[00:31] <pipo> ;) cudos to you guys then lol keep up the good work!
[00:31] <kelsin> fungz0r: wine is not the easiest thing, be prepared to read and google a lot
[00:31] <ZaNGaMaN> mayby that why it does not work
[00:31] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: Are you not on an AMD 64 processor?
[00:31] <ZaNGaMaN> i am on amd am2 64 bits
[00:31] <soldats> fungz0r, vmware may also work for you
[00:32] <graelin> Can anyone point me in the right direction here? System monitor says that there 17.4G total space on my /home dir. The only subdir there is my home directory that says 95 files totaling 4.4GB. Says there is 696Mb free. Any idea where the rest is?
[00:32] <fungz0r> well my friends want to get wc3, and then i want to dl a program so i can play online
[00:32] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: Ah, that explains some things. Restricted codecs are often broken on 64-bit machines.
[00:32] <jdfoote2> Hi - I'm having some problems with OOo - Writer takes up the whole screen, covering my panels, etc. Does anyone know how that setting can be changed?
[00:32] <ZaNGaMaN> pirate head what veriosn you recomand for newbies like me?
[00:32] <UBUNTUISLOVED> Tigran DO THIS    iwlist wlan0 bitrate
[00:32] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: Version of Ubuntu?
[00:32] <ZaNGaMaN> no linux
[00:33] <graelin> How do I run a check on that partition?
[00:33] <scguy318> ZaNGaMaN: you could try enabling Medibuntu if that helps
[00:33] <ZaNGaMaN> i liked kubuntu i sow on internet somthing
[00:33] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: Ubuntu is great for Newbies. Mandriva also comes highly recommended.
[00:33] <Lounge> i locked a package version down in synaptic but the update manager still wants to update it!!! is this a bug?
[00:33] <ZaNGaMaN> wich is the difference betwin kubuntu and ubuntu?
[00:33] <scguy318> !medibuntu | ZaNGaMaN
[00:33] <ubotu> ZaNGaMaN: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[00:33] <hubuntu> which channel for talk about ububntu as a  trademark*? I'm buying a domian for the LoCo tema so I thought it would be an idea to check it
[00:34] <fungz0r> has anybody tried using a program to play LAN over the internet?
[00:34] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: Kubuntu uses a desktop environment called KDE, which is geared more for computer power-users and hackers.
[00:34] <sotec_prod> Can someone tell me what program or what alternate program I need to convert dvd ifo files to...anything? swf, avi, mpeg, anything? (it's a commercial we shot at work and it needs to go on the website)
[00:34] <scguy318> fungz0r: Hamachi, but on Windows, on Ubuntu it seems to be fubared
[00:34] <mikebeecham> banshee...looks great...but I've had to import my music from rhythmbox, as I could not specifically choose my shared media drive as a source Evanlec
[00:34] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: Gnome, which Ubuntu uses, is widely considered more newbie-friendly since it has fewer options and configuration steps to go through.
[00:34] <scguy318> sotec_prod: I know more about that stuff on Windows :P I prob would check out Afterdawn and 9doom for stuff like that
[00:34] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: However, if you love to tweak your computer, KDE gives you plenty of opportunities.
[00:35] <scguy318> sotec_prod: immediate thought would be oh VLC transcode? im not too wise on this stuff
[00:35] <mw-home> Am experimenting with editing my /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  How do I restart X?
[00:35] <ZaNGaMaN> piratehead so you recomand i get ubuntu for normal 32 bits?
[00:35] <Lounge> i locked a package version down in synaptic but the update manager still wants to update it!!! is this a bug?
[00:35] <scguy318> mw-home: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[00:35] <fungz0r> is there another program that can be used instead of hamachi?
[00:35] <fungz0r> one that works on ubuntu?
[00:35] <logan> I need to clear the MBR on a sata drive, how can I do this without a windows xp cd?
[00:35] <slvmchn> ok i have three partitions, a windows, linux, and storage partition (and linux swap but i don't count that because i don't actually see it)... so my bootloader was on my storage partition, and i used grub to dual boot vista and gutsy.... now i reinstalled XP, formatting the vista partition, but when i boot it skips grub and goes right to XP... how do i re-enable grub?
[00:35] <sotec_prod> argh.
[00:35] <tigran> UBUNTUISOLVED: I think my wifi went out for a sec. Not sure if you said anything.
[00:35] <PirateHead> ZaNGaMaN: If you're using a 64 bit processor, then using it to run a 32 bit operating system means you're giving up some of your potential.
[00:35] <sotec_prod> i need this by Monday.
[00:36] <Evanlec> mikebeecham, well, i'd stick with rhythmbox then, it does everything i need...
[00:36] <riddareralf> I did some settings to edit my mouse, now when I try to start x it gets a bit messy. XGL won't load, can I somehow check in xorg.conf where it starts?
[00:36] <mw-home> thanks for the advice.  control-alt-backspace logged me out also.
[00:36] <PirateHead> Gotta go guys.
[00:36] <ZaNGaMaN> PirateHead: but the 64 bits sistem is not working i barely instalet chatzila nothing works
[00:36] <graelin> Can anyone point me in the right direction here? System monitor says that there 17.4G total space on my /home dir. The only subdir there is my home directory that says 95 files totaling 4.4GB. Says there is 696Mb free. Any idea where the rest is?
[00:36] <kakoonia> hey, if im trying another desktop manager, lets say im switching from gnome on gutsy to kde enviorment.. if i remove gnome packages, will they remain in the same settings if im installing them back?
[00:36] <ZaNGaMaN> xcaht not alowed
[00:36] <wabiD> is there an easy way to mount an ipod as a hard drive, and not a music player
[00:36] <mikebeecham> well I've give it a go first Evanlec
[00:36] <ZaNGaMaN> rmc arhives don`t work
[00:36] <soldats> mw-home, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:36] <mikebeecham> I like a lot of it's features already
[00:36] <wabiD> for some reason samba wont share folders on my ipod
[00:36] <ZaNGaMaN> audiocodec don`t work
[00:36] <Evanlec> ZaNGaMaN, that is unlikely to be a 64bit issue
[00:37] <cafuego> graelin: in dotfiles and hidden directories
[00:37] <Evanlec> ZaNGaMaN, xchat and almost any other app will work on 64bit Gutsy
[00:37] <jane_> graelin, use df and du
[00:37] <sotec_prod> wabiD, mojopac for Windows allows you to boot a windows system from your ipod. Don't know about linux though
[00:37] <ZaNGaMaN> tel me at instalation
[00:37] <wabiD> i just want to be able to share my ipod file to my xbox
[00:37] <tigran> UBUNTUISOLVED: I cant send private messages. Can you tell me how to register the nickname?
[00:37] <ZaNGaMaN> i use main partiition as ext2
[00:37] <ZaNGaMaN> or as ext 3
[00:37] <Evanlec> ZaNGaMaN, ext3
[00:37] <PriceChild> !register | tigran
[00:37] <ubotu> tigran: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[00:37] <UBUNTUISLOVED> one sec
[00:37] <sotec_prod> Does anyone know of video conversion software for linux?
[00:38] <ZaNGaMaN> i had ext2 now cand this be a problem?
[00:38] <deniz_> can sum1 help me with my physical science homework?
[00:38] <sotec_prod> dvd to swf. I'
[00:38] <deniz_> lol
[00:38] <sotec_prod> I've scoured the web and can't find anything
[00:38] <scguy318> sotec_prod: ffmpeg
[00:38] <Evanlec> ZaNGaMaN, no...and u can convert it to ext3
[00:38] <UBUNTUISLOVED> thanks pricechild
[00:38] <scguy318> sotec_prod: but not sure how well it does DVD IFOs
[00:38] <sotec_prod> thanks scguy318, I'll try that
[00:38] <Evanlec> ZaNGaMaN, ext3 just offers better stability if ur system crashes
[00:38] <scguy318> sotec_prod: i really would strongly suggest peeking at Afterdawn or those video sites
[00:38] <scguy318> Evanlec: along with faster mount and fsck :)
[00:38] <ZaNGaMaN> so where is the problem..... then.... cose it not alowing me anithing
[00:38] <sotec_prod> Afterdawn?
[00:38] <jb0nd38372> !register | jb0nd38372
[00:38] <sotec_prod> alright
[00:38] <scguy318> sotec_prod: doom9 also perhaps
[00:39] <Evanlec> scguy318, yea that too i spose
[00:39] <Evanlec> scguy318, but slower performance overall
[00:39] <deniz_> is FeCl3 called Iron Triclorine, Iron Tricloride or neither?
[00:39] <mw-home> is there some command-line way to discover what the current resolution is?
[00:39] <whabo> i know this might be a silly question. but is there any First Person Shooter games for ubuntu? NOT windows based... just FPS games from linux ( multiplayer)..????
[00:39] <slvmchn> whabo: yes
[00:40] <deniz_> whabo, ya
[00:40] <Evanlec> whabo, http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?src=rss&id=1907
[00:40] <Micheru> whabo: lots
[00:40] <TD-Linux> hello
[00:40] <whabo> slvmchn what games are they???
[00:40] <slvmchn> whabo: True Combat: Elite, Tremulous, and Savage: Battle for Newerth are among the best in my opinion
[00:40] <TD-Linux> I'm starting an ubuntu cd on an old computer
[00:40] <TD-Linux> how do I keep it from taking years to start?
[00:40] <deniz_> Micheru, ive never actually seen or played them
[00:40] <whabo> NICE THX .. thank you alllll
[00:40] <TD-Linux> it's been loading for 15 min
[00:40] <whabo> ill try them :P
[00:40] <slvmchn> True: Combat Elite is a mod for Wolfenstein: Enemy territory, but ET is like WW2: quake edition, too fast-paced
[00:40] <TD-Linux> X server is up
[00:40] <deniz_> Micheru, r they good like halo or half-life 2?
[00:40] <slvmchn> but the mod is amazing, it's like counterstrike but 10x better
[00:40] <Micheru> deniz_: same, my computer doesn't have the power
[00:40] <TD-Linux> see brown background and cursor
[00:40] <TD-Linux> it's busy loading off cd
[00:41] <slvmchn> much more balanced and realistcally paced
[00:41] <Evanlec> TD-Linux, there probably is no way...liveCD will always take much longer to load up then a hard drive install
[00:41] <TD-Linux> I know
[00:41] <Evanlec> TD-Linux, and on an old computer that effect will be magnified
[00:41] <TD-Linux> on other computers it takes ~10 min
[00:41] <aricz> get Warsow!
[00:41] <slvmchn> ok i have three partitions, a windows, linux, and storage partition (and linux swap but i don't count that because i don't actually see it)... so my bootloader was on my storage partition, and i used grub to dual boot vista and gutsy.... now i reinstalled XP, formatting the vista partition, but when i boot it skips grub and goes right to XP... how do i re-enable grub?
[00:41] <TD-Linux> this one
[00:41] <TD-Linux> is rediculous
[00:41] <scguy318> TD-Linux: use alternate CD if LiveCD sucks
[00:41] <TD-Linux> the purpose of the livecd is to dd the hard disk
[00:42] <deniz_> Micheru, well mine is not that weak, but this summer im collecting to buy a quad core with 8800 gt gfx which is rely good :D and im 15 ;)
[00:42] <scguy318> TD-Linux: dont use the LiveCD, use safe graphics or a different distro like Linux System Rescue CD
[00:42] <scguy318> TD-Linux: or the alternate
[00:42] <TD-Linux> okay
[00:42] <Micheru> deniz_: hehe i have an onlt pos dell and no job hehe
[00:42] <fungz0r> anybody use lancraft or battlelan? or know if it works in buntu?
[00:42] <riddareralf> If I don't have XGL at /usr/bin, then there is something wrong right?
[00:42] <Micheru> *old
[00:42] <TD-Linux> the other thing
[00:42] <TD-Linux> is there a way to force ubuntu to use dma when loading off the livecd?
[00:42] <TD-Linux> I have a feeling that might be the problem
[00:43] <scguy318> TD-Linux: it should do that automatically I believe, as kernel option dunno
[00:43] <deniz_> Micheru, i have no job yet, im hoping to work for a month and buy a comp
[00:43] <scguy318> TD-Linux: it might be something...Compiz related, dunno
[00:43] <jayde_drag0n> slvmchn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351   that should solve your problem
[00:43] <Micheru> deniz_: then how did you get the card?
[00:43] <scguy318> TD-Linux: screw that use Linux System Rescue CD
[00:43] <Micheru> present ?
[00:43] <deniz_> Micheru, im going to get them this summer
[00:43] <Micheru> ah
[00:43] <kakoonia> how can i switch the current login screen?
[00:43] <scguy318> kakoonia: change appearance?
[00:44] <deniz_> Micheru, its my goal
[00:44] <Micheru> deniz_: i just graduated, applied in a million places and no reply :(
[00:44] <deniz_> Micheru, currently i have a p4 3 ghz with ht and 1 gb ram with ati radeon x600 pro
[00:44] <ArthurArchnix> kakoonia: >system >administration >login window... I beileve it's the second tab
[00:44] <Grav3Mind> guys how do i enable the default theme manager? i dont wanna use emerald
[00:44] <deniz_> Micheru, im in grade 10
[00:45] <scguy318> Grav3Mind: just remove the emerald --replace thing if you did that
[00:45] <scguy318> Grav3Mind: how exactly did you enable Emerald anyway?
[00:45] <kakoonia> ArthurArchnix : hehe.. i was just there... looked for it 2 times.. and couldnt find it :) now i did!
[00:45] <TD-Linux> w00t
[00:45] <kakoonia> ArthurArchnix : thanks.
[00:45] <Micheru> p4 1.6 ghz 384MB SDRAM 32MB ATI RAGE 128 PRO, as i said just completed hs
[00:45] <ArthurArchnix> kakoonia:  np
[00:45] <TD-Linux> looks like it spent the last 5 minutes loading the desktop picture
[00:45] <deniz_> Micheru, is there any chance that u did chemistry or physical science?
[00:45] <jdfoote2> Can anyone help with an OpenOffice problem?
[00:46] <Micheru> deniz_: none
[00:46] <ArthurArchnix> ask! | jdfoote2
[00:46] <ArthurArchnix> oops
[00:46] <ArthurArchnix> !ask | jdfoote2
[00:46] <ubotu> jdfoote2: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:46] <jdfoote2> OpenOffice is taking up my whole screen, covering the panels, etc.
[00:47] <ArthurArchnix> jdfoote2: Sounds like it's in full screen mode.
[00:47] <jdfoote2> And the menu is unresponsive
[00:47] <deniz_> Micheru, i kinda have to do my homework and i came on the ubuntu channel looking for help lol, i thot i would find some but ill google insted
[00:47] <jdfoote2> Do you know where that setting is?
[00:47] <gilnim> howto mount a *.iso
[00:47] <fungz0r> lol
[00:47] <scguy318> gilnim: use fuseiso or do mount -o loop isofile /mnt/point
[00:47] <ArthurArchnix> jdfoote2: Try hitting Ctrl+Shift+J
[00:47] <danbhfive> anyone know about apache configuration? ie how do I add to it?
[00:47] <Micheru> deniz_: haha, hmm maybe we should take this convbo to pm, (i am unfiltered so you can pm, me)
[00:48] <Lounge> i think this is a synaptic bug - wants to update locked packages
[00:48] <jdfoote2> Arthur: No go - that puts it into fullscreen mode
[00:48] <fungz0r> what are some good keyboard or mouse shortcuts?
[00:49] <ArthurArchnix> jdfoote2: You'll have to describe your problem then. I thought you were stuck in full-screen mode, but it sounds like going full screen then undoing has no effect on your problem. So what exactly is the problem?
[00:49] <danbhfive> how do I edit my apache configuration?
[00:51] <ZaNGaMaN> how i unrar an rpm archive i instaled rpm too
[00:51] <tyler_3> ssh password storage on either putty or poderosa? anyone wanna take a stab or refer a program?
[00:51] <nirgle> *ahem*
[00:51] <nirgle> somebody kb me
[00:51] <nirgle> somebody kb me
[00:51] <nirgle> somebody kb me
[00:51] <nirgle> somebody kb me
[00:51] <ZaNGaMaN> !rpm
[00:51] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[00:51] <jdfoote2> Arthur: That makes the icon menu disappear - when out of full screen mode the icons are there, but the program takes up the whole screen, and doesn't show the top bar, and covers my panel at the bottom
[00:52] <jayde_drag0n> hey what is the command to change my name in here?
[00:52] <danbhfive> \name maybe
[00:52] <jdfoote2> Clicking a menu button (File, edit, etc.) brings up the menu for a moment, then the menu disappears
[00:52] <jdfoote2> Arthur: In addition, right-clicking in the program does the same thing - bringing up a menu, which quickly disappears
[00:52] <Jack_Sparrow> nick?
[00:52] <ArthurArchnix> jdfoote2: Oh... I think I understand. When you hit maximize it takes up the whole screen and your panels don't act like the edge of the screen then?
[00:52] <ZaNGaMaN> use /nick ............
[00:53] <jdfoote2> I've heard that it's related to Compiz
[00:53] <magnetron> tyler_3: i got to go now, but you need to generate a private/public key pair. putty has a tool with good instructions.
[00:53] <jdfoote2> Arthur - it's maximized from the start, and that's right - the panels don't act like the edge of the screen
[00:53] <jayde_drag0n_im_> grr
[00:53] <tyler_3> thats not the answer
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[00:53] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:53] <jayde_drag0n_gir> ugh
[00:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[00:53] <jayde_drag0n_gir> i guess theres a character limit
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mine is 12.. how long do you want it.
[00:54] <soldats> !grrr
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grrr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54] <soldats> lol
[00:54] <jaydedrag0n_girl> hehe there it is
[00:54] <soldats> yay
[00:54] <magnetron> tyler_3: password storage is not enabled for SSH sessions, in accordance with the ssh specification. that's why you generate a key pair.
[00:55] <jaydedrag0n_girl> hahah ubotu doesn't know frustration... thats nice
[00:55] <southafrikanse> hello. Does WIndows boot in a Logic partition?
[00:55] <ArthurArchnix> Ok... well, that's quirky behaviour which I presume lasts even after restarting openoffice and rebooting the computer? I'll take a quick look into this.. in the meanwhile, have you tried enabled hardware acceleration in >tools >options >view ? It may help openoffice "play nicer" with compiz.
[00:55] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Installed, updated gutsy on toshiba satellite laptop and mplayer plays nicely the movies except that i  do not have sound! any help? Thanks
[00:55] <soldats> does ubotu know what love is
[00:55] <jaydedrag0n_girl> !love
[00:55] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[00:55] <jdfoote2> Arthur: Is that in OO or Compiz?
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: windows prefers primary partition.. but #windows people will know other options
[00:55] <jaydedrag0n_girl> LMAO
[00:55] <wordupson> how do i get specific details about my wifi card? like the model, etc?
[00:55] <soldats> your mean almost
[00:56] <jaydedrag0n_girl> apparantly uboto had a bad relationship
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lspci or lsusb
[00:56] <dondong> hi,ever1
[00:56] <soldats> K_Dallas, do you have the codecs for audio
[00:56] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: The problem is I am unable to boot Windows in grub menu
[00:56] <magnetron> !msgthebot > jaydedrag0n_girl
[00:56] <wordupson> Jack_Sparrow, just say "belkin components"
[00:56] <jaydedrag0n_girl> !msgthebot
[00:56] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: Was windows installed first or aftewr Ubuntu
[00:57] <K_Dallas> soldats, i thought w32... would install everything
[00:57] <K_Dallas> soldats, what should i install then
[00:57] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: before obviously
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: NOt so obvious..
[00:57] <lightrush> !seen file
[00:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen file - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:57] <soldats> K_Dallas, use 'synaptic' package manager and search for all the codecs you want
[00:57] <danbhfive> !apache
[00:57] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[00:57] <ZaNGaMaN> !soundcodec
[00:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcodec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:57] <ZaNGaMaN> !sound
[00:57] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:58] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: can I or can I not boot Windows?
[00:58] <ArthurArchnix> jdfoote2: Openoffice... though if you're running compiz I think the eventual solution will be found in there. But for an easy try at fixing it you can try and play with those view settings in openoffice, tools, options
[00:58] <Csaba> im having issues with my AWN dock, i still cant sort it out, can any1 help
[00:58] <soldats> !ubotu
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: I dual bot without a problem... Or was that not obvious
[00:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> boot
[00:58] <magnetron> K_Dallas: many users prefer the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, contains most codecs
[00:58] <Csaba> i cant get trash can and showdesktop on there
[00:58] <soldats> lol
[00:58] <K_Dallas> soldats, but before that, how could i check to see if the system sound is working? the volume control looks all right nut i have to see if it works, to hear something
[00:58] <jdfoote2> Arthur: Thanks for your help
[00:59] <K_Dallas> magnetron, thanks i check that out
[00:59] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: then can you help me?
[00:59] <ZaNGaMaN> !MP3
[00:59] <jdfoote2> I will play around with it, and maybe be back later
[00:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:59] <soldats> K_Dallas, type alsamixer in a terminal and turn all the levels up
[00:59] <ArthurArchnix> ok
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: I would suggest you fdisk -l   to see your partition layout..
[00:59] <magnetron> !msgthebot > ZaNGaMaN
[00:59] <soldats> K_Dallas, then try a song if it doesnt work install the codecs via synaptic
[00:59] <K_Dallas> soldats, master and mc... they are both up, 100%
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: then /boot/grub/menu.lst  will show you where grub is looking for windows
[00:59] <Hanyou> Hello, I have a Gutsy install that is not pulling down an IP address from DHCP, but has all the drivers installed and I am posting this from a Gutsy laptop at the same time the desktop is running. So it's not a Linux issue. Please help!
[01:00] <Tornado> hi
[01:00] <soldats> K_Dallas, turn everything up
[01:00] <Tornado> where can i get help with the beryl
[01:00] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: there is nothing in the menu.lst that tells about my Windows Partition
[01:00] <soldats> K_Dallas, if it doesnt work you may need the codecs
[01:00] <danbhfive> !msgthebot > danbhfive
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Hanyou: if you type an ip address into firefox do you get google or whatever..
[01:01] <kyley> !ask
[01:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:01] <Hanyou> No, I can't even execute a ping command.
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: there should be a section on your windows install if one exists
[01:01] <Hanyou> To my Local net*
[01:01] <Hanyou> I.E. 192.168.0.1-254 I get nothing.
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: post your menu.lst to the pastebin and give up the link in channel
[01:02] <Tornado> anyone who know where i can get help with beryl manager
[01:02] <K_Dallas> soldats, i put an audio CD and there is no sound! i shouldnt need a codec for that, should i?
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[01:02] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[01:02] <K_Dallas> soldats, and all the controls are up
[01:02] <magnetron> Tornado: in some cases, here. ask your question to the channel
[01:02] <pipo> im a gigantic noob, i downloaded a package and I want to install it, it says to use configure and make commands in the terminal, but I have no idea how to do that, i appreciate any help here or in pm, thanks
[01:02] <soldats> K_Dallas, yes you should you need them to play music files
[01:03] <K_Dallas> it is audio CD, i thought it was all right ! weird
[01:03] <PriceChild> pipo, what do you want?
[01:03] <magnetron> pipo: which program is it?
[01:03] <Odd-rationale> Tornado: Why not use compiz-fusion instead?
[01:03] <Tornado> o
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> pipo: It is always better to get a program through the repos and not try to compile it yourself...
[01:03] <kelsin> Hanyou: you can try running the dhclient command on the command line (Just "sudo dhclient eth#" where eth# is your network card [ussually eth0]) and see if you get any type of errors
[01:03] <Hanyou> Jack_Sparrow: Right now I'm trying to do static IP if that helps at all
[01:03] <loca|host> i've just installed Ubuntu Gutsy and got a problem with the sound, i get it very very low
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Hanyou: others are better at that..  I hinda have my hands full atm
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kinda
[01:04] <n215> how do i setup default gw for nas0 interface that wasnt created yet?
[01:04] <tuxthepenguin533> i love how i can get desktop effects on ubuntu and vista cant do one
[01:04] <pipo> i dunno i usually use the package manager and i installed it with that and it said when i click n the app that i dont have permisions to run it
[01:04] <Csaba> i need some help getting trash can and showdesktop on avant dock
[01:04] <magnetron> pipo: see if the program is available in applications > add/remove or System> administration> synaptic
[01:04] <soldats> pipo you need to change the permissions for the program then
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> pipo: what program is it and from what repo...?
[01:05] <ToddEDM> hey guys... im trying to print from my printer connected to my Desktop... im on my laptop... can someone gimme a hand for a bit?
[01:05] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: here it is: http://pastebin.com/d7fa98f5e and fdisk -l gives this: http://pastebin.com/d19d6e2df
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !cups
[01:05] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:05] <pipo> whats a repo lol? i instaled it with synaptic and i found the app in usr/bin and it says i dont have permissions
[01:05] <kelsin> pipo what app
[01:05] <user1> hi
[01:05] <ToddEDM> Jack_Sparrow:  i have the printer installed
[01:06] <user1> are ubuntu defaults set up by idiots?
[01:06] <pipo> does it matter what app?
[01:06] <thor> ToddEDM: do you have samba installed?
[01:06] <PriceChild> user1, ask your real questino and think carefully.
[01:06] <user1> there is some horrible noise when I use terminal... wtf
[01:06] <kelsin> pipo yes
[01:06] <magnetron> pipo: yes
[01:06] <PriceChild> user1, that isn't normal.
[01:06] <Micheru> ToddEDM: try echo "test123" | lpr and see if anything happens
[01:06] <ToddEDM> yes thor
[01:06] <user1> PriceChild: when I press backspace for example
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: windows was installed first?  any other windows partitions?
[01:06] <PriceChild> user1, that's the pc speaker
[01:06] <pipo> lol ok, its called kismet something to see info about my network
[01:06] <ToddEDM> echo "test123" | lpr
[01:06] <LjL> PriceChild, i think he means the bell.
[01:06] <ToddEDM> just type that in Terminal?
[01:06] <Micheru> ToddEDM: yes
[01:07] <user1> PriceChild: how to stop that
[01:07] <Micheru> yeah
[01:07] <ToddEDM> cool i will try
[01:07] <kelsin> user1: if you're using the gnome terminal just right click / edit current profile and uncheck terminal bell
[01:07] <kelsin> pipo that program needs root
[01:07] <magnetron> pipo: type "sudo kismet" in a terminal
[01:07] <ArthurArchnix> Do you know, is there a pdf viewer that let's you make notes on it, like foxit reader?
[01:07] <kelsin> pipo: run it as "sudo kismet"
[01:07] <ToddEDM> absolutly nothing happened, it just went to the next line
[01:07] <user1> thanks
[01:07] <n215> how do i setup default gw for nas0 interface that wasnt created yet?
[01:07] <tuxthepenguin533> #kubuntu
[01:07] <Micheru> ToddEDM: how did you install the printer?
[01:07] <ZaNGaMaN> The required software to play this file is not installed. You need to install suitable codecs to play media files. Do you want to search for a codec that supports the selected file?
[01:07] <ZaNGaMaN> The search will also include software which is not officially supported.
[01:08] <kelsin> pipo: non-root users aren't allowed to get that type of info from the network card, so in this situation that program shouldn't be able to be run as a normal user
[01:08] <user1> why is that stupid noise on by default?
[01:08] <PriceChild> user1, because it informs the user of something
[01:08] <LjL> thank you chanserv, sorry chanserv
[01:08] <virtuososteve> hey
[01:08] <PriceChild> user1, its a feature.
[01:08] <pipo> any ideas?
[01:08] <ToddEDM> Micheru:  well i wouldnt say "i" installed it , but it came up in the list of printers to use , in a drop box
[01:08] <virtuososteve> i was wondering if somebody could help me on getting halo to work on linux
[01:08] <soldats> sometimes ubotu gets mad whe you ask the same question more than once
[01:08] <user1> PriceChild: that user it not deaf and is irritated by high pitch sounds?
[01:08] <Impiety> i've done literally everything i could find to do to try to get mp3s to play with amarok, but for some reason it won't work
[01:08] <magnetron> pipo: yes, run it with "sudo kismet" in a terminal
[01:08] <PriceChild> user1, then turn it off. EOD.
[01:09] <Impiety> would anyone know why?
[01:09] <virtuososteve> im reading a website on it but i dont understand on how to do it
[01:09] <soldats> be patient and if anyone knows how to solve your problem they will try to help
[01:09] <Micheru> ok then it should just work :/ it did for me. did you choose the correct driver? (stupid question i suppose)
[01:09] <LjL> !info xournal | ArthurArchnix
[01:09] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: yes. Windows was installed first. There isn't any other Windows partitions
[01:09] <ubotu> arthurarchnix: xournal: GTK+ Application for note taking. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 273 kB, installed size 844 kB
[01:09] <user1> how to use sounds?
[01:09] <Hanyou> kelsin: When I run that command from terminal I get good results and it binds to 192.168.0.42, but still no internet access or ability to ping local IP's.
[01:09] <thor> ToddEDM: did you run CUPS and configure the printer? Cups is reached via a browser...localhost:631
[01:09] <user1> dvd player shows video, but silence
[01:09] <kelsin> Hanyou: run ifconfig and make sure the ip / netmask and other settings look ok
[01:10] <pipo> oh ok so thats what sudo is about thanks
[01:10] <ToddEDM> thor, when i selected the printer, it said it was using CUPS
[01:10] <thor> ToddEDM: you should be able to find the same printer in cups on both computers...your desktop and laptop ...it should show as a network printer on the laptop and a local printer on the desktop
[01:10] <soldats> user1, you need the codecs use synaptic and search for all codecs and install them
[01:10] <pipo> ill be back in a bit
[01:10] <LjL> !restricted > user1    (user1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:10] <ToddEDM> so cups is the driver?
[01:10] <user1>  Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1   and     VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: windows was installed first and installed itself on sda6 ?
[01:10] <user1> how to have alsa using the creative
[01:10] <PsyDeViL> hmm. can anyone suggest me what ubuntu version i should stick with.  i have tried gutsy , feisty , on my desktop and they install by using safe graphics mode.  However when i try to use edgy eft i can not boot into install.  The system crashes and i hear a beep and screen goes black. (if any1 could shed some light on boot options to use with f6).  The reason i am doing this is because my ati AGP card is not supported in fesity and gutsy.  
[01:10] <ToddEDM> !cups
[01:10] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:11] <thor> ToddEDM: it is in cups on the laptop that you will set up the network printer
[01:11] <virtuososteve> so does anyone know who to install halo on linux through wine?
[01:11] <Hanyou> kelsin: Stupid question "What is bcast in Linux's ifconfig?"
[01:11] <soldats> !hate
[01:11] <ubotu> hate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy
[01:11] <soldats> lol i like ubotu
[01:11] <ToddEDM> thor:  ok , i havent did that , that might be the prob
[01:11] <magnetron> !appdb | virtuososteve
[01:11] <ubotu> virtuososteve: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:11] <ArthurArchnix> LjL: Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
[01:11] <kelsin> Hanyou: broadcast, it should normally be 192.168.0.255 on a 255.255.255.0 netmask
[01:11] <virtuososteve> read this: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_PC_(Linux)
[01:12] <user1> wow first 5 minutes in ubuntu and it already crashed!  awesome job ubuntu team
[01:12] <scguy318> or better yet, the AppDb
[01:12] <scguy318> user1: what's the problem?
[01:12] <duhokay> lol
[01:12] <soldats> your doing it wrong
[01:12] <PsyDeViL> user1
[01:12] <kelsin> user1: the ubuntu team is in your house crashing your comps?
[01:12] <Hanyou> kelsin: Then everything looks fine IP of 192.168.0.42 bcast of 192.168.0.255 and standard netmask.
[01:12] <user1> vlc  crashes on each attempt to open dvd
[01:12] <LjL> user1, do you want support, or are you trying to troll? i'm starting to think the latter.
[01:12] <PsyDeViL> :P ur lucky to get it installed
[01:12] <ToddEDM> thor  just add it from add/remove programs?
[01:12] <LjL> !dvd > user1    (user1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:12] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: I had Mandriva installed as well. But I then installed Ubuntu over it. Maybe that's why Windows is sda6
[01:12] <DanThirst> is there a way to turn ssh on from recovery console, or a way to get network working from recovery mode?
[01:12] <scguy318> user1: if you run VLC from the terminal, can you pastebin the error messages at the terminal prompt?
[01:12] <scguy318> user1: or perhaps an excerpt of the messages that VLC produces
[01:12] <thor> cups...yeah..I guess so. To be honest I don't recall if I added it or if it was there by default
[01:13] <user1> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[01:13]  * user1 slaps riaa
[01:13] <LjL> then read the bot factoid
[01:13] <jaydedrag0n_girl> PsyDeViL: those are just different versions of ubuntu... gutsy is the lastest install of the product.. edgy is a couple years old if i am correct
[01:13] <thor> ToddEDM: open your browser on the desktop and for the url type 'localhost:631'
[01:13] <thor> see if it works
[01:13] <danbhfive> PsyDeViL: why isnt your card supported in gutsy?
[01:13] <Hanyou> user1: VLC does not have some codecs for protected DVD's sometimes. Try a different DVD player.
[01:13] <DanThirst> or even boot from grub loader with out the GUI to boot up because something is screwed up i just need networking and a console
[01:13] <scguy318> user1: you need to enable the Medibuntu repo
[01:13] <user1> LjL: still, it is not very pro to just crash instead any msg box is it
[01:13] <virtuososteve> no vlc works you just have to get the right codecs
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: http://pastebin.com/m4649723a           is where I would start  or try super grub repair cd
[01:13] <scguy318> user1: and install libdvdcss2, that cannot be distributed legally in some jurisdictions
[01:13] <DanThirst> but whenever grub loads stuff just stop displaying
[01:13] <scguy318> !medibuntu | user1
[01:13] <ubotu> user1: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:13] <virtuososteve> i had the same problem w/ vlc
[01:14] <soldats> user1, also try gxine
[01:14] <kelsin> Hanyou: so pings to other local addresses that are local do not work?
[01:14] <ToddEDM> ok cool  thor
[01:14] <scguy318> virtuososteve: libdvdcss2 :)
[01:14] <thor> ToddEDM: once you have the desktop configured...do the same in the laptop, but configure a network printer
[01:14] <virtuososteve> yeah thats what i got and it worked
[01:14] <LjL> user1, that's VLC, it's not developed by the ubuntu developers, it's in universe (community supported packages), and it's done for free, so feel free to ask question, but there's no need to be sarcastic
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[01:14] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:14] <user1> scguy318: it is fine besides proud US of A and afair Franch?
[01:14] <virtuososteve> so could someone please help me w/ halo on linux?
[01:14] <scguy318> user1: ?
[01:15] <scguy318> !appdb | virtuososteve
[01:15] <ubotu> virtuososteve: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:15] <magnetron> !appdb > virtuososteve
[01:15] <LjL> user1, not really, the EUCD, which is a copy of the DMCA basically, applies in many countries in Europe.
[01:15] <scguy318> virtuososteve: im too lazy to find the page
[01:15] <user1> scguy318: wonder is it ok here
[01:15] <virtuososteve> i have it
[01:15] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: I've already tried that. It said: "Error 21: No such operation on device" or something like that
[01:15] <virtuososteve> http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_PC_(Linux)
[01:15] <ToddEDM> thor:  im on my laptop, and i selected PRINTERS , and the printer from the desktop is there
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> virtuososteve: If you mean how to get it working under wine... try #winehq
[01:15] <magnetron> LjL: EUCD is a directive and not a law
[01:15] <Hanyou> kelsin: It now pings to 192.168.0.1-254, but not to my net at the other end of a point to point T1 that has the local IP range of 192.168.1.1-254. It needs to ping to that to get out to the net.
[01:15] <virtuososteve> i have wine
[01:15] <scguy318> user1: possibly, ask a lawyer, but I'm sure it'll be fine, I doubt the MAFIAA will be kicking in doors to find copies of libdvdcss2
[01:15] <clay3482> hello people - can anyone help me with a mount point problem
[01:16] <thor> ToddEDM: so....do we need to be MORE successful <smile>
[01:16] <jrib> clay3482: you need to tell us the promlem
[01:16] <magnetron> virtuososteve: did you check appdb?
[01:16] <virtuososteve> i just need to know how to do this:  The installer will not run without mfc42.dll, so download the file from [1] and extract the file to your /home/<yourname>/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32 directory
[01:16] <LjL> magnetron: as a directive, countries must implement it as a law. some might not have done so yet, and others may have interpreted it more liberally, but the fact remains that it applies in a few of them.
[01:16] <soldats> !ask | clay3482
[01:16] <ubotu> clay3482: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:16] <virtuososteve> what is "appdb?"
[01:16] <user1> so UE now also is that stupid america corportations bit^H hostage :( ?
[01:16] <Hanyou> kelsin: I have my laptop running the same config and it is not having any problems so I doubt it's just Linux unfriendly hardware.
[01:16] <scguy318> virtuososteve: the web page that I and some other peoplez linked you to
[01:16] <jrib> virtuososteve: visit the winehq website
[01:16] <user1> hmm anyway... lets see if it works
[01:16] <jpastore> I'm trying to burn a bootable cd. k3b seems to lack the ability to do this. and I don't see an option in gnome baker. can someone make a recommendation?
[01:16] <kelsin> Hanyou: your laptop is also on the 192.168.0 network and can ping the 192.168.1?
[01:16] <ToddEDM> thor:  i want to delete all Jobs, it is asking for a password.. i dont think i made a pass for it
[01:16] <kelsin> Hanyou: check the output of route -n on your laptop and desktop and compare
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> southafrikanse: You might try !diskmounter  and mount your windows partitions and make sure windows files are still there.
[01:17] <ToddEDM> thor:  nm
[01:17] <virtuososteve> look i have wine updated and everything i just need to know how to put this certian file in the wine folder
[01:17] <LjL> user1, this is not a politics channel, i'm simply telling you even if you don't live in the US, there may still be laws against using some DVD decryption... you should check from more reliable sources if you're concerned about it.
[01:17] <Hanyou> kelsin: Yes, just double checked.
[01:17] <ToddEDM> i spoke too soon
[01:17] <scguy318> virtuososteve: use Nautilus or whatever you do when you want to copy files
[01:17] <jrib> virtuososteve: if you want to know what appdb is, visit winehq
[01:17] <thor> ToddEDM: log into the desktop. You view the jobs in a terminal with 'lpq' and cancel them with the 'cancel' command
[01:17] <virtuososteve> can you give me the link again please?
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: k3b will do it..  do you have an iso you are working with
[01:17] <scguy318> !appdb > virtuososteve (see the PM)
[01:17] <K_Dallas__> guys! I installed the restricted-extra and still no sound!
[01:17] <ToddEDM> thor i canceled them with cups , in the browser
[01:17] <thor> ToddEDM: I assume you have sshd running on one or both computers?
[01:17] <danbhfive> virtuososteve, what is the problem that you are having?
[01:18] <ToddEDM> thor:  im not sure what sshd is
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: if so.. right click the iso and select write to disk
[01:18] <scguy318> ToddEDM: sshd = SSH server
[01:18] <clay3482> my problem is I changed the mount point on a external USB HD - I thought I could make it open up to specific directory - anyway now when I try and mount it the system displays moint_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /) so apparently i didnt set it right. how do i reset it back to default?
[01:18] <kelsin> Hanyou: and this is probably a stupid question, but the netmask and broadcast are the same on desktop and laptop?
[01:18] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, yes. I can't find the option and I found an article stating that it lacked the unfunctionality
[01:18] <ToddEDM> how do i check?
[01:18] <LjL> K_Dallas__: does « sudo cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp » give you sound? (warning, might be loud)
[01:18] <Hanyou> kelsin: My laptop was having similar problems earlier today, but it resolved itself mysteriously.
[01:18] <thor> ToddEDM: it is the ssh server...you should install it on the desktop, then you can log into the desktop from the laptop without having to go in the other room
[01:18] <Hanyou> kelsin: I will check.
[01:18] <ZaNGaMaN> for a newbie wich is better mandriva or kubuntu?
[01:18] <virtuososteve> i have to put mfc42.dll in  /home/<yourname>/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32
[01:19] <virtuososteve> UBUNTU
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: Please link the article..
[01:19] <LjL> virtuososteve: the problem being?
[01:19] <jrib> ZaNGaMaN: try both and use what you like
[01:19] <danbhfive> so, whats the problem?  why dont you just do it?
[01:19] <kelsin> ZaNGaMaN: either
[01:19] <thor> ToddEDM: after you install and learn ssh and sshd...look at the -X option for ssh...you can run linux apps on the desktop in a window on the laptop
[01:19] <soldats> clay3482, you most likely need to edit your fstab file
[01:19] <clay3482> ZaNgaMan - UBUNTU 7.10 no doubt
[01:19] <magnetron> LjL: the implementation differs greatly between countries. as an example, the Swedish implementation allows you to circumvent copy protection if it's necessary for legal access to your media. (watching your dvds with libdvdcss2 etc)
[01:19] <virtuososteve> how to get to it and getting the privileges
[01:19] <Hanyou> kelsin: They are the same.
[01:19] <K_Dallas__> LjL, it says device is busy
[01:19] <ArthurArchnix> LjL: xournal loads the pdf as a background image, making reading difficult. Any other suggestions? An adobe acrobat like product perhaps?
[01:19] <clay3482> soldats - where is teh fastab file
[01:19] <virtuososteve> becoming root
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[01:19] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:19] <astro76> clay3482, you changed it through the properties? when you edit it there, it should not be the full path, but just the directory under /media to use
[01:19] <scguy318> virtuososteve: the Wine folder is owned by you...
[01:19] <kelsin> Hanyou: honestly this goes beyond my understanding then :-( good luck with it
[01:19] <danbhfive> virtuososteve: ok, i can help, but you need to be specific with your questions
[01:19] <jrib> virtuososteve: it's in your home, you don't need to be root
[01:19] <scguy318> virtuososteve: Ctrl + H in Nautilus to see
[01:19] <LjL> magnetron, i don't think i've said *all* EU countries make it illegal.
[01:19] <ToddEDM> thor:  im not getting what your saying... it is a linux box too, my desktop
[01:19] <ArthurArchnix> Jack_Sparrow: I'd never seen that root thing before. That's hilarious
[01:19] <soldats> clay3482, sudo gedit fstab
[01:19] <user1> how to tell alsa to use my creative card (i have 2 cards)
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:20] <scguy318> soldats: gksudo gedit
[01:20] <LjL> ArthurArchnix, perhaps acrobat itself?
[01:20] <clay3482> astro76 - I know that now - thanks
[01:20] <ToddEDM> ubuntu
[01:20] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, I just closed it...let me look...I think it was older version...he was referencing...but google didn't turn up much else. you stated that it will do it...can you point me to where the option was?
[01:20] <thor> ToddEDM: right...but you can run everything from both computers on the laptop screen (or the desktop screen if you prefer)
[01:20] <Hanyou> kelsin: Don't worry I bashed my head with my laptop for 2 hours today for it to mysteriously start working tonight.
[01:20] <soldats> scguy318, huh
[01:20] <LjL> virtuososteve, why would you need root, since the folder is in your own user's home?
[01:20] <astro76> clay3482, to fix it you will have to find and delete the entry using gconf-editor
[01:20] <scguy318> soldats: when running GUI apps, use gksudo
[01:20] <soldats> scguy318, i know i was trying to help clay3482
[01:20] <thor> ToddEDM: install sshd on the desktop...it will only take a minute
[01:20] <danbhfive> Hanyou: have you tried the dig command?
[01:20] <scguy318> soldats: not sudo
[01:20] <virtuososteve> ok i get it
[01:20] <virtuososteve> no root
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: what kind of file is it you are starting with?
[01:20] <pikeshouse88> you know what you could do for halo with linux, buy a freaking xbox for 50 bucks, there you go, geez people are we serious about this?
[01:20] <virtuososteve> here's my question
[01:20] <ArthurArchnix> LjL: Under wine, of course... I mean I can just take notes. I'm not about to drop a few hundo's for the privelege of making a few notes. I'll keep my eyes out though for something...
[01:21] <scguy318> pikeshouse88: we dont want to sponsor MS, duh
[01:21] <K_Dallas__> LjL, when i installed and the livecd was loaded, there was sound! now that it is fully installed, no sound
[01:21] <scguy318> pikeshouse88: though I guess the copy of Halo does that in a way :P
[01:21] <pikeshouse88> dont be ridiculous
[01:21] <soldats> scguy318, gedit runs as gui anyways
[01:21] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, article: http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/01/19/the-value-of-k3b-cddvd-burning-software/
[01:21] <scguy318> pikeshouse88: some of us like our PCs
[01:21] <scguy318> soldats: when running a GUI app as root, prefix with gksudo
[01:21] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Didn't know there was one. I'm pretty new to Linux as a whole since the late 90's.
[01:21] <scguy318> soldats: not sudo
[01:21] <thor> ToddEDM: you might also need xinet...not sure if it is installed or not
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> virtuososteve: Questions about getting your windows programs to run under wine are better asked in #winehq
[01:21] <Xacarith> Has any one here ever tried to run something called OpenRPG?
[01:21] <LjL> ArthurArchnix, uh, no, not under WINE. there is a Linux version of Acrobat Reader, and there used to be an official Ubuntu package too. now there's no official package anymore, but i think it's still in some repository
[01:21] <ToddEDM> whats the command to install sshd
[01:21] <kelsin> virtuososteve: honestly wine is going to take work to make work right. If you don't fully understand copying files around your home directory yet you might want to wait a bit and learn some about linux before trying to get wine working
[01:21] <thor> ToddEDM: install it from synaptic
[01:21] <pikeshouse88> the microsoft gaming division is fine to support
[01:21] <duhokay> is it possible to share an ntfs drive from ubuntu?
[01:21] <thor> ToddEDM: and make sure xinet is installed also
[01:21] <virtuososteve> i need to get mfc42 into the wine folder, and ive looked for it but cant find it, i have wine but cant find the file
[01:21] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, it's a windows xp volume license iso I created from the original...which is in the safe at the office and I've burned a ton of cd's from.
[01:22] <jrib> !ssh > toddedm (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:22] <scguy318> pikeshouse88: great i guess
[01:22] <ToddEDM> k thor
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[01:22] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:22] <magnetron> !anyone > Xacarith
[01:22] <scguy318> virtuososteve: Ctrl+H!
[01:22] <scguy318> virtuososteve: just do it
[01:22] <virtuososteve> and i know my way around ubuntu, k? i just cant find the file
[01:22] <virtuososteve> i did
[01:22] <danbhfive> hanyou: lol, I've only been using it for a year, I know random bits, dig tests the dns
[01:22] <thor> ToddEDM: I'll wait here <smile>
[01:22] <kelsin> duhokay: yes, once you get ntfs reading and writing working, you can share it just the same as any other linux fs (nfs, samba etc)
[01:22] <virtuososteve> nothing happens
[01:22] <duhokay> thanks
[01:22] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, I mounted the iso into a folder to test the contents were accessible. I only did a ls but looked fine...
[01:22] <scguy318> virtuososteve: in Nautilus?
[01:22] <scguy318> virtuososteve: should show hidden files in your home
[01:22] <virtuososteve> wats is nautilus?
[01:22] <scguy318> virtuososteve: the file manager
[01:22] <jrib> !who | virtuososteve
[01:22] <ubotu> virtuososteve: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:22] <danbhfive> hanyou: dig yahoo.com to see if you get an ip
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: then do as I said earlier... right click the iso and select write to disk
[01:22] <virtuososteve> k
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: You dont need k3b
[01:22] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, I'm looking to see if gnome baker has an option
[01:22] <LjL> virtuososteve: "I know my way around Ubuntu" - "What is Nautilus?"
[01:22] <southafrikanse> Jack_Sparrow: I have sda6 mounted. I can access my windows files perfectly
[01:22] <LjL> funny...
[01:23] <thor> ToddEDM: it is called xinetd in synaptic
[01:23] <virtuososteve> LJL: wow your funny
[01:23] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, I did that and it's not working. to be fair I didn't try to browse the cd after burning
[01:23] <Xacarith> I'm getting this error along with one other 'socket.gaierror: (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')
[01:23] <Xacarith> '
[01:23] <amicrawler> what is the command to tell what  ubuntu i'm running
[01:24] <scguy318> amicrawler: lsb_release -a
[01:24] <Hanyou> danbhfive: It stops at the other end of my T1 line on my firewall at 192.168.1.254. I don't think it's just my firewall though, because it can't hit any of my server farm on that range either.
[01:24] <K_Dallas> amicrawler, uuname
[01:24] <LjL> virtuososteve, so are you. i think you're not listening to what people actually suggest to you, and rather assuming you know better. perhaps you don't, if you don't even know what nautilus is. open Nautilus in your home directory, hit Ctrl+H, and see if a ".wine" folder appears.
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: that option works fine.. best to select a slower burning speed than normal
[01:24] <thor> ToddEDM: and opensshd
[01:24] <virtuososteve> i did it thank you
[01:24] <magnetron> LjL: keep an eye on FloodBot<1,2,3>
[01:24] <LjL> magnetron, duh, look at the hostmasks
[01:24] <amicrawler> ok thanx
[01:24] <thor> ToddEDM: nope...openssh-server
[01:24] <virtuososteve> LjL: "thanks man your a great help"
[01:24] <Hanyou> danbhfive: the last valid thing it hits is my Cisco Gateway on this range at 192.168.0.1
[01:24] <amicrawler> runing feisty
[01:25] <amicrawler> cool
[01:25] <ToddEDM> ok got em both instsalled
[01:25] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, maybe that's it...trying to mount now...it seems to mount fine
[01:25] <ToddEDM> hey thor, should i be doing this on the desktop too ?
[01:25] <K_Dallas> LjL, any hope that i get my sound back?
[01:25] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, I'm trying to install into a virtual box...and I'm getting invalid bootable media
[01:25] <thor> ok...let's see if it is working. On the laptop open a terminal and type 'ssh desktopip'
[01:26] <danbhfive> hanyou: interesting, so you can't ping outside of that
[01:26] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, I'm wondering if there's a problem with the file because I couldn't mount the iso from virtual box
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: ok.. I dont do anything vm,wine etc...  someone may be able to help
[01:26] <ToddEDM> todd@todd-laptop:~$ ssh desktopip
[01:26] <ToddEDM> ssh: desktopip: Name or service not known
[01:26] <ToddEDM> todd@todd-laptop:~$
[01:26] <thor> ToddEDM: it will ask if you want to accept the key...say yes...it will only ask the first time
[01:26] <LjL> K_Dallas, i'm not very experienced with sound and ALSA to be honest. besides telling you the obvious - i.e. to make sure everything relevant is enabled and set to a medium volume in the system mixer - i'm not sure what to tell you
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: possibley...  you are trying to burn or copy a mounted iso?
[01:26] <scguy318> ToddEDM: well, substitute the IP address for desktopip
[01:26] <Hanyou> Nope I get to 192.168.0.1 and connection stops, just on the desktop though. Not the laptop or the 50 windows boxes sitting in the office.
[01:26] <thor> ToddEDM:no..you need the ip address of the desktop....192.168.0.3 or whatever
[01:26] <ToddEDM> hey thor, gimme a sec, i gotta take a piss
[01:26] <ToddEDM> ok
[01:26] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, well interestingly enough i used a cd burned from this image to install into a vm under virtual box before...I just really trashed it...and deleted it ...so I'm starting over
[01:27] <fungz0r> hey whats the best linux internet browser?
[01:27] <fungz0r> firefox?
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: ok.. good luck..
[01:27] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, nah...it's on my desktop I copied it from my external last time my laptop was on and I just turned it on...it's not mounted anywhere
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[01:27] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[01:27] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Maybe I can restart it into submission like I did with my laptop lol.
[01:27] <jaydedrag0n_girl> LjL: just because someone is new and knows their way around their file structure.. does not automatically infer that they know everything about their system.. it does not make them dumb or stupid just new... i know a few commands my way around my file structure.. pretty good with compiz... but do i know what nautilus is? no not really i'm sure i could read up on it... but that doesn't make me stupid just new
[01:27] <scguy318> fungz0r: depends on your needs
[01:27] <jpastore> !best getting some
[01:27] <n215> how do i setup default gw for nas0 interface that wasnt created yet?
[01:28] <n215> in startup
[01:28] <jpastore> =)
[01:28] <danbhfive> hanyou: lol, thats a windows skill  :p
[01:28] <fungz0r> well better question, what browsers are you guys using?
[01:28] <LjL> jaydedrag0n_girl, it surely doesn't make you stupid. but saying annoyed-sounding things like "i know my way round ubuntu, k?" to people who're trying to help sounds arrogant. not stupid, just arrogant.
[01:28] <LjL> fungz0r: all 1152 of us?
[01:28] <fungz0r> haha
[01:28] <fungz0r> if all 1152 is actually here :P
[01:28] <danbhfive> firefox
[01:28] <LjL> !browsers > fungz0r    (fungz0r, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:28] <Hanyou> danbhfive: I'm a MCP and what works, works lol.
[01:29] <Invert314> how do i get my task bar to group simial apps together?
[01:29] <LjL> Invert314: "similar"? how do you define it?
[01:29] <fungz0r> question, how do i get firefox so that when i click on the address bar it is automatically highlighted?
[01:29] <jaydedrag0n_girl> LjL; i'm sorry i was just trying to give the benefit of the doubt... i know i don't always communicate the best
[01:30] <danbhfive> hanyou: do you know how to restart the networking from the CLI?  I believe its sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:30] <ToddEDM> whew!!!! im back
[01:30] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Do you think it could be b/c I have two network cards that it is confusing the Linux config?
[01:30] <LjL> danbhfive: that works, although « sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart » is better form
[01:30] <danbhfive> fungz0r: ctrl+L
[01:31] <zstars> How can you display the contents of PATH?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: The discussion at the end of the article says k3b does burn bootable cd's...
[01:31] <ToddEDM> ok so i need to find the IP of my desktop.. that would be 192.168.1.*** yes?
[01:31] <tuxthepenguin533> #windows
[01:31] <thor> ToddEDM: right
[01:31] <danbhfive> cool
[01:31] <makzu> net
[01:31] <thor> ToddEDM: I am trusting you got the right numbers...but that's the general idea
[01:31] <Invert314> LjL, i mean how do i group all 10 firefox things into one thing?
[01:32] <Invert314> in the panel
[01:32] <jimjam> Is there any way to see *all* files on a computer that have changed in the last x number of days?
[01:32] <fungz0r> well danbhfive, i know that one, but is there a way so that whenver i just click on it, its already highlighted?
[01:32] <Invert314> i need a better word than thing
[01:32] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, that's annoying I read that it doesn't and stopped there...why contradict yourself...that's just bad writing
[01:32] <thor> ToddEDM: the prompt should change to reflect that you are now at a prompt on the desktop
[01:32] <jrib> jimjam: you can use 'find'
[01:32] <ToddEDM> refused connectinon
[01:32] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, or was that in a comment from a user?
[01:32] <n215> how do i setup default gw in startup for nas0 interface that wasnt created yet??
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: that was a comment from a user.
[01:32] <thor> ToddEDM: no problem..you need to start sshd...the magic incantation....
[01:32] <Ongaku> hmm well rhythmbox and amarok are acting funny...i can play a song, but when i switch to a different song it freezes
[01:32] <gorilla3d> Is there a way todo a commandline package search?
[01:33] <chetnick> hi guys does anybody use Anjuta on ubuntu? I`m missing Build menu ... maybe few more things ..?
[01:33] <thor> ToddEDM: sudo /usr/sbin/xinetd restart
[01:33] <Hanyou> danbhfive: I tried restarting the networking to no effect.
[01:33] <user1> how to tell alsa to use my creative card (i have 2 cards)
[01:33] <ToddEDM> on desktop ?
[01:33] <thor> ToddEDM: right
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jpastore: I also never said k3b wouldnt, just that there was an easier way to burn bootable iso's
[01:33] <jpastore> Jack_Sparrow, ahhh...well let me give it another go maybe I'll try burning directly from my external...maybe the copy was bad
[01:33] <danbhfive> fungz0r: goto about:config and type in urlbar
[01:33] <Ongaku> i tried reinstalling but to no avail...acting so weird, it´s making me mad >.<
[01:34] <jimjam> jrib: Thanks
[01:34] <LjL> Invert314, i think that happens automatically when it gets too crowded, at least that's what it does in KDE. don't know how to force it to always make it happen
[01:34] <jpastore> brb going to try and reboot and see if the installer starts...maybe virtual box is f'd
[01:34] <jrib> jimjam: -mtime is the switch you want probably
[01:34] <Invert314> ty LjL
[01:34] <Ongaku> anyone know what´s going on? i can play one song, i try to switch to the next and it crashes...
[01:34] <PeteOnline> Anyone know of a website with a really good description of static routing on a standard ipv4 network?  I know this isn't exactly the best place to ask this, but it does involve staticly routing my ubuntu server
[01:35] <jimjam> jrib: I was looking at -ctime, but I can't figure out which order my arguments should go in.
[01:35] <Hanyou> Anyone have any other ideas?
[01:35] <robdig> gorilla3d: apt-cache search package-name-or-keyword
[01:35] <jrib> Invert314: right click on the window list and go to properties/preferences
[01:35] <ToddEDM> whats that second thing you had me install thor
[01:35] <jimjam> jrib: i'm trying sudo find -L -ctime 3 /
[01:35] <jrib> jimjam: you understand how mtime, atime, and ctime differ?
[01:35] <thor> ToddEDM: xinetd runs a bunch of network services like apache and ssh
[01:36] <Invert314> jrib, i see it
[01:36] <Invert314> thanks
[01:36] <ToddEDM> thx
[01:36] <Hanyou> How do I disable one of my networking adapters?
[01:36] <thor> ToddEDM: the x is extended network services
[01:36] <tuxthepenguin533> where can i view an arcive of the ubuntu irc room
[01:36] <Pici> !logs | tuxthepenguin533
[01:36] <ubotu> tuxthepenguin533: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[01:36] <jimjam> jrib: ctime is changed n*24 hours ago; that's what i'm looking for
[01:36] <tuxthepenguin533> thanks
[01:36] <jrib> jimjam: no, google "atime ctime mtime"
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxthepenguin533: the logs for the channel?
[01:36] <danbhfive> hanyou: have you thought about the router?
[01:36] <tuxthepenguin533> yes
[01:37] <tuxthepenguin533> PICI gave them to me
[01:37] <ToddEDM> how the hell do you remember all this , with the names of these linux programs so phucked
[01:37] <openmindDJ> I cant seem to remember how to resolve this annoyance.  When I roll my mouse over a music file, it starts playing automatically.  Any ideaS?
[01:37] <ToddEDM> lol
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !logs
[01:37] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[01:37] <Cabbage> Under Gutsy, mplayer only shows green when playing videos. Ideas?
[01:37] <thor> ToddEDM: I lack a life
[01:37] <danbhfive> hanyou: im not the most knowledgable about these things, but I have heard that routers can block individual ports
[01:37] <Pici> openmindDJ: Its in the Nautilus preferences.
[01:37] <ToddEDM> haha
[01:37] <openmindDJ> ohh yea....
[01:37] <thor> ToddEDM: and I was lucky enough to find someone to help when I was sitting there where you are <smile>
[01:37] <Ongaku> hmm well rhythmbox and amarok are acting funny...i can play a song, but when i switch to a different song it freezes
[01:37] <ToddEDM> ok i got all that installed on the desktop.. and restarted xinetd
[01:38] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Went through that with the laptop. All that was left when I was done was me to terminal into my Cisco Gateway and rewrite my routing table.
[01:38] <ToddEDM> yeah i thank you thor
[01:38] <jimjam> jrib; Oh! Thanks!
[01:38] <scguy318> ToddEDM: old age and experience :P
[01:38] <thor> ToddEDM: now try ssh to the desktop from the laptop...
[01:38] <thor> remember when it asks to use the pw you have on the desktop...not the laptop
[01:38] <Csaba> i need some help getting trash can and showdesktop on avant dock
[01:38] <openmindDJ> Thanks Pici, can;t believe I forgot that!
[01:39] <ToddEDM> cool i think that worked
[01:39] <thor> ToddEDM: it gets better...stick with me
[01:39] <PeteOnline> or a good irc channel where I could talk to some networking gurus as my question isn't specific to ubuntu...
[01:39] <kakoonia> hey, is there a way to go back to a previouse state of ubuntu?
[01:39] <ToddEDM> haha right on
[01:39] <duende> hiii
[01:39] <kakoonia> restore...
[01:39] <Ongaku> kakoonia: reinstall old one :P lol
[01:39] <duende> jomknjoip
[01:39] <thor> ToddEDM: if you look around you will see you are now on the desktop...you see the desktop file structure. Every command you enter there will occur on teh desktop...not the laptop
[01:39] <duende> mnklnion
[01:39] <ToddEDM> thor , you realize, now i will be looking for you EVERYTIME i have a problem!
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> kakoonia: dont suppose you made any backups
[01:39] <scguy318> kakoonia: like downgrading version? no
[01:40] <Hanyou> danbhfive: I'm pretty swift when it comes to anything PC or Apple related, but this has me tied upside down on a freeway overpass.
[01:40] <jimjam> jrib: Any way I can copy all of those files?
[01:40] <kakoonia> jack
[01:40] <thor> ToddEDM: and most importantly...everything you do is via ssh...and encrypted channel...so it is about as safe as it can get
[01:40] <scguy318> kakoonia: you could clean install but that's not typical meaning of downgrade in the usual sense
[01:40] <ToddEDM> cool
[01:40] <thor> ToddEDM: we will make it a little safer later...
[01:40] <thor> ToddEDM: now...when you are done....type 'exit' and you should return to the laptop prompt
[01:40] <thor> ToddEDM: take your time
[01:40] <jrib> jimjam: you can use -exec cp (see examples in find's man page) or pipe to  xargs cp
[01:41] <jimjam> jrib: Thanks so much
[01:41] <ztomic> I could swear this is caused by the linux-kernel-rt: "There was an error starting GNOME settings daemon... will try to restart the next time you log in." I have two computers that started doing this after upgrading to the real-time kernel. Anyone know what's going on?
[01:41] <kakoonia> im not meaning downgrade, i tried to fix something with my laptop screen, so i did some bad adjustments.. now.. i got some bad things going on reboot and resolution got bad.. so i was wondering if theres a way to go back to a previouse state of this installation that worked fine...
[01:41] <root_> ghgf
[01:41] <stodge> Just installed Gutsy - I thought this version was supposed to have complete/easier support for configuring xorg? I'm still stuck at a refresh rate of 50Hz.
[01:42] <ztomic> Is anyone using the real-time kernel?
[01:42] <danbhfive> stodge: are you using nvidia?
[01:42] <stodge> yes
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> stodge: use dpkg-reconfigure and enter the refresh rates for your monitor
[01:42] <danbhfive> there is a bug in the nvidia drivers concerning refresh rates
[01:42] <thor> ToddEDM: remember...you can open several terminals so you can compare what you are doing on the desktop to what you have on the laptop (if you are so inclined)
[01:42] <stodge> compiz works a treat though with minimal work, which was nice
[01:42] <stodge> jack_sparrow: I thought that was supposed to be a thing of the past?
[01:43] <thor> ToddEDM: you can even open several ssh sessions to the desktop...although that would be redundant and repetitive
[01:43] <kakoonia> im not meaning downgrade, i tried to fix something with my laptop screen, so i did some bad adjustments.. now.. i got some bad things going on reboot and resolution got bad.. so i was wondering if theres a way to go back to a previouse state of this installation that worked fine...??
[01:43] <Galatea2> i've got a problem with networking.
[01:43] <ztomic> stodge: I have to edit my xorg.conf to get proper refresh rate.
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> stodge: If it dosent setup your hardware you still need to do it manually
[01:43] <ToddEDM> sorry for sounding so newbish, but what am i supposed to do on the desktop?
[01:43] <stodge> :(
[01:43] <thor> ToddEDM: nothing...you do it all from the laptop...that is the point
[01:44] <ToddEDM> yeah thats what i meant
[01:44] <Galatea2> ubuntu is NOT giving itself an ip address, even though i specifically told it to do so
[01:44] <danbhfive> stodge: the nvidia driver scrambles the refresh rate information, so if you are using the driver, the wrong refreshes will get reported
[01:44] <ToddEDM> i just wanan print a doc
[01:44] <stodge> ah ok
[01:44] <danbhfive> stodge: i have the same problem
[01:44] <thor> ToddEDM: for instance, if you type 'mkdir /home/ToddEDM/temp' it will make the directory on the desktop...not on the laptop...even though you are typing on the laptop
[01:44] <scguy318> kakoonia: oh, probably your xorg.conf
[01:44] <PeteOnline> ping
[01:44] <stodge> I have the horiz and vert values set in xorg.conf
[01:44] <Galatea2> pinging doesn't work since it doesnt have an IP
[01:44] <scguy318> kakoonia: you could try doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to possibly regenerate the default config
[01:44] <Galatea2> everything is just lost
[01:44] <ToddEDM> i want print/my/damn/document
[01:44] <Galatea2> no route to host, etc
[01:44] <ToddEDM> lol
[01:45] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Well, regardless I got it to work on one machine today even if it was just luck.
[01:45] <kakoonia> scguy318
[01:45] <kakoonia>  
[01:45] <cyzie> ToddEDM, setup your printer already
[01:45] <cyzie> ?
[01:45] <kakoonia> bahh
[01:45] <thor> ToddEDM: by the end of this evening...you can put your desktop in the closet and let it run there <smile>
[01:45] <ToddEDM> lo
[01:45] <ToddEDM> l
[01:45] <ztomic> danbhfive: I don't think it has anything to do with vid card.... I could be wrong but I don't think so.
[01:45] <tuxthepenguin533> does ubuntu have a registrey
[01:45] <scguy318> tuxthepenguin533: not really
[01:45] <ToddEDM> cyzie:  yes
[01:45] <Galatea2> tuxthepenguin533: no
[01:45] <cyzie> tuxthepenguin533, no
[01:45] <danbhfive> hanyou: yeah, I dont think i can help much more
[01:45] <Marcusklaas> God I love virtualbox
[01:45] <cyzie> ToddEDM, so setup it then, it's easy
[01:45] <scguy318> tuxthepenguin533: GConf is about the closest thing to one, and its hardly a registry
[01:45] <tuxthepenguin533> then where do configs go
[01:45] <ToddEDM> it is
[01:45] <thor> ToddEDM: when you are ready...log out of the desktop
[01:45] <Galatea2> anyone here good with networks?
[01:45] <Pici> scguy318: No. gnome uses a registry-like system called gconf, but its very organized
[01:45] <Pici> tuxthepenguin533: files
[01:45] <scguy318> kakoonia: wut
[01:46] <thor> ToddEDM: and log back in with 'ssh -X ipaddress'
[01:46] <musashi> i want to extract an osx .dmg to get at a graphics file. can i do this in ubuntu?
[01:46] <kakoonia> scguy318 is xserver-xorg a part of the command?
[01:46] <ztomic> Galatea2: just ask.
[01:46] <scguy318> Pici: I meant in the Window sense :)
[01:46] <danbhfive> hanyou: it is interesting, your pings are getting stopped at a certain spot
[01:46] <scguy318> kakoonia: yes
[01:46] <thor> ToddEDM: that is an uppercase X
[01:46] <lukaszz> hi
[01:46] <kakoonia> k
[01:46] <scguy318> kakoonia: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <tuxthepenguin533> whats kde use then like gconf
[01:46] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Don't worry I didn't come in expecting a solution, just a push in the right direction.
[01:46] <lukaszz> Jest tu ktos z polski ? :>
[01:46] <ztomic> So nobody's using real-time?
[01:46] <Pici> !pl | lukaszz
[01:46] <ubotu> lukaszz: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[01:46] <cyzie> thor, what is his problem ?
[01:46] <kakoonia> ill try, thanks\
[01:46] <Pici> tuxthepenguin533: I think it just uses files
[01:46] <Assid> heya
[01:46] <lukaszz> ok
[01:46] <Galatea2> why can't ubuntu just work?
[01:46] <scguy318> kakoonia: after doing that try restarting X
[01:46] <Hanyou> danbhfive: As I said, samn thing with the computer I am typing on right now earlier today. Then, poof, magic it works. Wierd......
[01:46] <musashi> Galatea2, it does for me
[01:47] <thor> cyzie...nothing...we got the printer working and now I am showing him how to control the desktop without having to be in front of it
[01:47] <cyzie> Galatea2, why nto ?
[01:47] <ToddEDM> cyzie:  i want to print a doc. with my desktop... im on my laptop
[01:47] <Assid> is it me,  or does compiz manage to work better with ubuntu/gnome?
[01:47] <PeteOnline> why can't windows just work?
[01:47] <tuxthepenguin533> where do the files get stored
[01:47] <Galatea2> because one moment ago
[01:47] <ToddEDM> no no thor, it hasnt printed yet
[01:47] <ztomic> ...
[01:47] <corruptionoflulz> tuxthepenguin533: everything is in your home dir
[01:47] <cyzie> thor, many ways then, ssh and vnc, rdesktop is a few ways
[01:47] <Galatea2> i was transferring files from this laptop to the computer running ubuntu
[01:47] <Galatea2> through a physical network link
[01:47] <tuxthepenguin533> ok
[01:47] <Galatea2> the next second, i return, and it refuses to connect
[01:47] <cyzie> ToddEDM, easy, 1st ssh to your desktop, do the lp command
[01:47] <thor> ToddEDM: should...you said you found the printer in cups on the laptop...so it should be in the printer menu when you print from a program
[01:47] <PeteOnline> anybody know static routing?
[01:47] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Just wish there was someone in here that knew exactly what my problem was.
[01:48] <Assid> PeteOnline: what about it?
[01:48] <PeteOnline> or a good channel to ask that same question in?
[01:48] <danbhfive> ztomic: i filed a bug report because I couldn't select a valid refresh rate, even though it was in my xorg.cong, and the guy told me it was a bug in the nvidia driver, it sounded like that guy was having the same problem, but for sure, i still cant select a refresh rate  :)
[01:48] <Galatea2> and now using ifconfig -a
[01:48] <Assid> PeteOnline: whats your question on it
[01:48] <Galatea2> my network does not contain an inet entry
[01:48] <Hanyou> PeteOnline: This channel is as good as any go.
[01:48] <PeteOnline> Assid: I've been trying to wrap my head around it basically.  To actually understand it
[01:48] <cyzie> Galatea2, dhcp ?
[01:48] <thor> ToddEDM: the ssh stuff is so you can install and config programs without having to sit in front of the computer...sorry...got ahead of the game
[01:48] <Galatea2> yes
[01:48] <ztomic> danbhfive: hmm... interesting.
[01:48] <Galatea2> "roaming mode"
[01:48] <PeteOnline> I get ip addressing and subnetting and all
[01:48] <Galatea2> and this computer is configured with a static IP
[01:48] <cyzie> Galatea2, do a networking restart
[01:49] <Assid> PeteOnline: very very simple.. think of the destiantion ip address as a destination on a map
[01:49] <ToddEDM> thor:  thats ok... that was good info
[01:49] <Galatea2> how do i do that?
[01:49] <Assid> the route itself as different routes to that location
[01:49] <cyzie> Galatea2, /etc/init.d/networking restart in root
[01:49] <AutoMatriX> just updated GPSD ... gpsdrive don't work no more
[01:49] <thor> ToddEDM: if you open the document on your laptop, when you go to print it, you should find the network printer on the drop down menu
[01:49] <ToddEDM> ok i see the printer when im printing from openoffice
[01:49] <Assid> if you hve a multi homed network, then you basically choose which netwrok you want to use to reach that destination
[01:49] <ToddEDM> yes i see it thor
[01:49] <lukaszz> hi
[01:49] <thor> ToddEDM: ok...does it print?
[01:49] <Galatea2> okay let's see now
[01:49] <lukaszz> i need help
[01:49] <ToddEDM> no, it sits in queue
[01:50] <Galatea2> nope, still not there
[01:50] <PeteOnline> I understand the idea behind static routing, but the way you enter static routes on most consumer grade routers confuses me
[01:50] <lukaszz> how to get more bright  in ubuntu  ?
[01:50] <Hanyou> PeteOnline: Go to https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/networking-enable.html#networking-enable-nm
[01:50] <Assid> if you wanna go to florida from newyork, then you choose a route for the whole state of florida.. and not just cape canaveral
[01:50] <thor> ToddEDM: is it in the queue on the laptop or the desktop?
[01:50] <Laney> Does anyone know why my display still suspends after 10 minutes even though I've turned it off in Screensaver and Power Management? It's quite annoying when watching videos (shouldn't video players disable this anyway?)
[01:50] <ToddEDM> haha it woulda been funny if i said YA IT PRINTS
[01:50] <thor> ToddEDM: use the 'lpq' command on both machines
[01:50] <billy> anybody have some extensive knowledge about windows?
[01:50] <Galatea2> in fact, now i can't even select the radio button in the network menu near the clock thing
[01:50] <Ongaku> rhythmbox keeps on crashing when i manually select a song...anyone know wtf is up with it?
[01:50] <Hanyou> PeteOnline: That is the Ubuntu Documentation on manual config and such.
[01:50] <Assid> PeteOnline: just read up on subnet masks.. that should easily clear it for you
[01:50] <ToddEDM> lpq: error - no default destination available.
[01:50] <AutoMatriX> anybody who uses gpsd ?
[01:50] <cyzie> Galatea2, i have never get any porblem on that
[01:51] <Galatea2> (the radio button which corresponds with my network)
[01:51] <thor> ToddEDM: was that on the desktop or the laptop?
[01:51] <Galatea2> well maybe you're lucky :(
[01:51] <jaydedrag0n_girl> billy: can i ask why you are asking about windows in the ubuntu channel?
[01:51] <ToddEDM> both
[01:51] <billy> just wondering :p
[01:51] <cyzie> Galatea2, not lucky u dumb
[01:51] <thor> ToddEDM: you can print from the desktop, right?
[01:51] <billy> cause my windows isnt booting
[01:51] <PriceChild> !windows | billy
[01:51] <ubotu> billy: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:51] <ToddEDM> yes
[01:51] <cyzie> Galatea2, cehck in network setting in /etc/
[01:51] <scott__> I am brand new to Ubuntu.  I have been running PCLinuxOS for about 9 months.  I'm having some issues with Grub.  Is this the right place to ask for help?
[01:51] <Galatea2> how so?
[01:51] <Assid> okay so, does compiz somehow work better on gnome for some stupid reason? or is that just me
[01:51] <PeteOnline> I have read up on subnet masks, how it bitwise masks the ip address to discern the network portion and the host portion, etc
[01:51] <jaydedrag0n_girl> billy: is it not in your grub menu?
[01:51] <Galatea2> you see, if i was to connect to it wirelessly though the house's router, it connects to my shared folder almost instantly
[01:52] <cyzie> Galatea2, what do YOU mean how ?
[01:52] <billy> well its in the menu
[01:52] <billy> when when i boot it
[01:52] <ToddEDM> yup... im printing a test doc right now thor
[01:52] <Galatea2> well, what do you want me to check, cyzie?
[01:52] <billy> it loads the welcome page, then restarts
[01:52] <ToddEDM> from the Desktop
[01:52] <thor> ToddEDM: from the desktop, right?
[01:52] <ToddEDM> yes
[01:52] <ztomic> no help on GNOME Settings Manager?
[01:52] <Galatea2> it's just weird how it's not the same for when you use a physical connection
[01:52] <Torahteen> Anyone here know how to use rn?
[01:52] <ztomic> I need a guru
[01:52] <thor> ToddEDM: when it is done...try printing the test document from the laptop using cups
[01:52] <jaydedrag0n_girl> billy: when you load into ubuntu and check the file directories.. is everything seemingly in order? or are your folders empty?
[01:53] <cyzie> Galatea2, go to /etc/network check the interfaces entry
[01:53] <PeteOnline> well lemme try this question: I have an ubuntu server behind a router and I want to give it an external static ip through the router
[01:53] <thor> ToddEDM: and you did add the network printer on the laptop using cups, right?
[01:53] <cyzie> Galatea2, dont enable wireless and ethernet at the same time
[01:53] <Torahteen> If I want to start reading usenet posts on a certain server, how would I set up "rn" to do this? I want to connect to news://freenews.netfront.net
[01:53] <billy> everything is still there for my windows files
[01:53]  * ^garfield2^ is away (I am Off Line Now...)
[01:53] <Ongaku> rhythmbox keeps on crashing when i manually select a song...anyone know wtf is up with it?
[01:53] <ztomic> PeteOnline: DMZ
[01:53] <billy> but when i boot into windows, it just restarts at welcome page
[01:53] <ToddEDM> thor the printer was there  already, i didnt manually add it ...and the test page i tried... is just sitting in queue
[01:54] <Galatea2> well i can't exactly disable wireless
[01:54] <scguy318> Ongaku: hmm, sometimes my VLC crashes when I spawn Open File dialog
[01:54] <thor> ToddEDM: from the laptop?
[01:54] <scguy318> Ongaku: coincidence?
[01:54] <Hanyou> Anyone know how to setup a Dell Laserjet to a gutsy install that is networking. I tried the Samba browser and I couldn't find it. Would manually entering it in do the trick?
[01:54] <Ongaku> scguy318: heh
[01:54] <PeteOnline> already being used for another device, and I can't seem to DMZ 2 hosts
[01:54] <Galatea2> because what else can i enable, since i can't select anything apart from wireless
[01:54] <jaydedrag0n_girl> billy: did this just happen when you installed ubuntu... or was this previously working and then stopped suddenly
[01:54] <scguy318> Ongaku: try running from terminal and see what error messages u get
[01:54] <thor> ToddEDM: the test print you sent from the desktop worked OK, right?
[01:54] <billy> it wasnt working before i installed ubuntu
[01:54] <cyzie> Galatea2, why cant u disable wireless?
[01:55] <PeteOnline> i'm using a linksys wrt54g with dd-wrt firmware on it
[01:55] <Ongaku> scguy318: i ran this gdb thing and i got this Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[01:55] <cyzie> Galatea2, u can either disable physically or through the OS
[01:55] <netsrot> what is this "partition has been mounted several times check forced"?
[01:55] <jaydedrag0n_girl> billy: okay windows was already broken before you installed ubuntu i have this correct?
[01:55] <Galatea2> okay i'll do that
[01:55] <ztomic> PeteOnline: nope. you can't do two. but you may forward from other server or set up individual ports from the router.
[01:55] <Hanyou> billy: Then please refer to Microsoft Knowledge Base or call their customer support.
[01:55] <Galatea2> interfaces has
[01:55] <ToddEDM> thor, it ws just an emaikl i had up.. it printed fine
[01:55] <Galatea2> auto lo
[01:55] <Galatea2> iface lo inet loopback
[01:55] <Galatea2> is that normal?
[01:55] <thor> ToddEDM: ok....first let's clear the queue...on both machines type 'cancel -a' in a terminal
[01:55] <AutoMatriX> got a problem with gpsd ... can anyone help ?
[01:55] <PeteOnline> ztomic: you wouldn't happen to know why that is, would you?
[01:56] <thor> ToddEDM: you can use an ssh shell on the laptop if you like instead of going to the desktop
[01:56] <Ongaku> scguy318: segmentation fault....
[01:56] <noobynoob> is it possible to install ubuntu to fat32
[01:56] <cyzie> Galatea2, after that 2 lines, there are no anymore below ?
[01:56] <ztomic> PeteOnline: because DMZ is designed for quick and easy.
[01:56] <Galatea2> by the way, what is eth0-avah?
[01:56] <billy> Jaydedragon yeah it was broken before i installed ubuntu
[01:56] <thor> noobynoob: no
[01:56] <Galatea2> that's all there is in interface
[01:56] <noobynoob> y
[01:56] <noobynoob> y
[01:57] <Ongaku> what can i do? uninstall reinstall  or what...
[01:57] <jaydedrag0n_girl> billy: than yes you will need to find a windows channel or referr to microsoft support.. research it on google.. call a friend .. or call microsoft
[01:57] <cyzie> wrong entry Galatea2
[01:57] <khin> hi, whenever i try to do a sudo command with & it just skips over the password prompt and cancels the command, how do i do this
[01:57] <thor> ToddEDM: once you have both queues cleared...open cups on the laptop and go to the Printers tab
[01:57] <cyzie> that is why your networking fuckup
[01:57] <Galatea2> heh yeah
[01:57] <cyzie> Galatea2, what did u do ?
[01:57] <Galatea2> it's /etc/network/interface, right?
[01:57] <Galatea2> nothing
[01:57] <noobynoob> were allowed to swear
[01:57] <cyzie> Galatea2, no
[01:57] <Galatea2> as i said, i returned and then it wouldn't work
[01:57] <jaydedrag0n_girl> no not really
[01:57] <cyzie> it's /etc/network/interfaces
[01:57] <billy> oh ok
[01:58] <Galatea2> well yes that's what i meant
[01:58] <PeteOnline> ztomic: so would I be able to do the same / similar thing with static routing?
[01:58] <ToddEDM> thor:  its asking for the password on my desktop... it wont take it
[01:58] <Hanyou> khin: Just type sudo, authenicate, and then all your commands should have sudo authority
[01:58] <noobynoob> !mark
[01:58] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[01:58] <danbhfive> hanyou: have you tried packet sniffing?  I cant really offer to help you with that, but i
[01:58] <thor> ToddEDM: give it your password....
[01:58] <Galatea2> would it be possible to rebuild it?
[01:58] <ToddEDM> password for roxanne on localhost..... i type it, and it just keeps asking me
[01:58] <danbhfive> I'm trying it out myself atm
[01:58] <ToddEDM> roxanne = my wife
[01:58] <noobynoob> !ubuntu
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:58] <cyzie> Galatea2, u can do that but that is idiotic move, why dont u just get a working interfaces file and modify from there?
[01:58] <noobynoob> !debian
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[01:58] <thor> ToddEDM: ok...use the command 'sudo cancel -a' and use your password
[01:59] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Are you refering to AirSnort or a derivative there of?
[01:59] <robdig> msgthebot | noobynoob
[01:59] <thor> ToddEDM: your wife is a second account on the computer?
[01:59] <ztomic> PeteOnline: never tried it, but I bet it would be more difficult than setting the router to forward port ranges or specific ports.
[01:59] <Galatea2> where could a location of such file be found?
[01:59] <scott__> I have had a working install of PCLinuxOS on what would be in Windows Terms my Primary Master HD.  I wanted to try some other Linux Distros withour giving up PCLOS until I found something I like better.  When I tried to install Fedora 8 onto a new HD located as secondary slave, the Fedora installer screwed up my GRUB and computer wouldn't boot.  Fedora screws up Grub every time I've tried it.  So I wiped Fedora and i
[01:59] <scott__> nstalled Ubuntu 7.04.  Ubuntu works fine but I can't boot into my PCLOS system.  I get Error 11 Unrecognized device string.  Can anyone help me fix this please?
[01:59] <noobynoob> ! msgthebot | noobynoob
[01:59] <ToddEDM> thor:  ok that worked
[01:59] <cyzie> Galatea2, have u ask google?
[01:59] <danbhfive> Hanyou: well, hehe, I don't know,  I'm a total noob at this, but im using wireshark,     It just seemed like a next step for you
[01:59] <Galatea2> i'll do it now
[01:59] <ToddEDM> thor, yes, but i believe i gave her admin privleges
[01:59] <cyzie> Galatea2, u can type my name, so easier to see here
[02:00] <danbhfive> watch the packets from another computer
[02:00] <thor> ToddEDM: ok...clear the queue on the laptop as well...
[02:00] <ToddEDM> hold on
[02:00] <PeteOnline> ztomic: unfortunatley, the same port is going to be used on 2 different machines behind the router
[02:00] <thor> ToddEDM: then open cups in the browser on the laptop
[02:00] <Hanyou> danbhfive: I will try that, though I doubt it will help me much.
[02:00] <ztomic> PeteOnline: thats a predicament.
[02:00] <ToddEDM> hold on a sec... walmart photo just called , i gotta call my wifey
[02:00] <Galatea2> cyzie: if this interfaces file was so bankrupt of information, why was it able to accomdate my wireless card?
[02:00] <thor> ToddEDM:k
[02:00] <cyzie> Galatea2, /usr/share/doc/ppp/examples/interfaces
[02:00] <johnnybezak> anyone know if these internet problems with gutsy are being fixed - cos mine is stuffed and the ipv6 stuff doesn't help.
[02:00] <ToddEDM> l
[02:00] <ToddEDM> ol
[02:01] <PeteOnline> ztomic: I have a small block of static ip addresses that I can use, I just can't figure out how to use them through a router
[02:01] <Marcusklaas> Nice I emulated Vista with virtualbox
[02:01] <cyzie> Galatea2, i have no idea how is your setup and what u going to do with it. you youself dont know what u are doing and that is dangerous
[02:01] <scguy318> Marcusklaas: no Aero tho :P
[02:01] <thor> Marcusklaas: now...can you emulate a more serious disease <smile>
[02:01] <Marcusklaas> aero = ??
[02:01] <ztomic> PeteOnline: put a switch between the modem and the router. set up the servers on the switch and the other computers on the router.
[02:01] <scguy318> Marcusklaas: the fancy Vista 3D
[02:01] <Marcusklaas> oh lol :(
[02:02] <ToddEDM> thor:  ok cups is open on the laptop
[02:02] <scguy318> Marcusklaas: 3D typically doesn't work on VMs, hard to virtualize
[02:02] <ToddEDM> test page , no working
[02:02] <thor> ToddEDM: ok...on the Printers tab....
[02:02] <scguy318> Marcusklaas: VMware is the only thing that has basically beta support
[02:02] <Csaba> i need some help getting trash can and showdesktop on avant dock, anyone??
[02:02] <Hanyou> This is honestly about to make me cry.
[02:02] <ToddEDM> ok
[02:02] <Marcusklaas> i heard there's a very lean version of ubuntu of vmware integrated .. liek 300 MBs big
[02:02] <thor> set printer options
[02:02] <ToddEDM> ok
[02:02] <thor> ToddEDM: make sure they are ok
[02:03] <cyzie> thor, how do u know if ToddEDM know how to make sure? he is newbie
[02:03] <ToddEDM> controlled by printout mode....
[02:03] <thor> cyzie...they are page length and such...would be specific to his setup
[02:04] <PeteOnline> ztomic: I was thinking of doing that, but I also need to use it locally, inside the router
[02:04] <ToddEDM> it all looks good thor
[02:04] <ToddEDM> error policy is retry-job
[02:04] <tuxthepenguin533> !logs
[02:04] <thor> ToddEDM: on the printers tab also check the line 'Printer State' it should say 'idle, accepting jobs'
[02:04] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[02:04] <cyzie> thor, ok, i hope he know
[02:04] <PeteOnline> I have /etc/network/interfaces set up with a virtual interface for the second ip address
[02:04] <Grav3Mind> can anyone recommend a good screen video capture program for ubuntu?
[02:04] <Marcusklaas> hey scguy318: can i do the glassy window look tho?
[02:04] <ztomic> PeteOnline: that's where you're gonna have to set up static routing and I don't know how.
[02:04] <cyzie> Marcusklaas, yes
[02:04] <thor> cyzie...they aren;t real important right now...would just mess up the format
[02:04] <Marcusklaas> ah cool
[02:04] <Marcusklaas> where can i configure that?
[02:04] <thor> cyzie...I wanted him to know they are there
[02:04] <PeteOnline> in interfaces?
[02:05] <Galatea2> right.
[02:05] <cyzie> thor, hehe. yes, show the kiddie
[02:05] <ToddEDM> yes also it says published thor
[02:05] <robdig> Grav3Mind: applications->accessories->take screen shot
[02:05] <thor> ToddEDM: good...then it should be working. When you click on Print Test Page does it give an error?
[02:05] <Grav3Mind> VIDEO
[02:05] <Grav3Mind> not screen shot
[02:05] <PeteOnline> ztomic: i have that figured out, my question is more on the router's side, which I realise isn't really this channel's purpose
[02:05] <robdig> Grav3Mind: ah...you did say video, my apologies...don't know there
[02:06] <ToddEDM> ok i see something i idnt notice before, which i shoulda, its in big bold type ....Unable to connect to CIFS host, will retry in 60 seconds...
[02:06] <Grav3Mind> lol sorry robdig....
[02:06] <thor> ToddEDM: really...that means it can't get to the desktop...are you running firewalls?
[02:06] <cyzie> Galatea2, good to go now ?
[02:06] <kn4rF> it's possible to run keyboard events from bash terminal?
[02:06] <ztomic> PeteOnline: yeah, i hear you. I'v never done it. probably set your servers up to receive from IP and the router to static route to an ip. I dunno.
[02:06] <thor> ToddEDM:...wait...check this....
[02:07] <ToddEDM> thor, maybe on my router
[02:07] <thor> ToddEDM: on the printers tab...click on Modify Printer
[02:07] <Galatea2> nope
[02:07] <Galatea2> is it possible
[02:07] <cyzie> Galatea2, ?
[02:07] <Galatea2> that i just add my own entry
[02:07] <thor> ToddEDM: no...the router would only be firewalled to the internet
[02:07] <kn4rF> Galatea2, how?
[02:07] <cyzie> Galatea2, yes
[02:07] <ToddEDM> k
[02:07] <ArthurArchnix> I'm looking at an emacs interface for the first time because i want to learn to use 'r' and I'm told ESS (emacs speaks statistics) is the way to go, but I am really displeased with the display. It looks bad, like what gnucash looked like in Feisty. Any ideas on improving font rendering, at the very least?
[02:07] <thor> ToddEDM:click on Modify Printer, then Click on Continue...
[02:07] <PeteOnline> ztomic: yeah, I think we both have the same level of knowledge on this, neither of us know how to do static routing on the router.  blind leading the blind and all
[02:07] <Grav3Mind> anyone know of a good VIDEO screen capture program
[02:08] <Galatea2> like, i'd just write iface eth0 inet static
[02:08] <ztomic> hehe
[02:08] <mark_> whats a good lightweight Mplayer GUI?
[02:08] <Galatea2> this shouldnt be happening though
[02:08] <ToddEDM> thor ok
[02:08] <Galatea2> ubuntu is just meant to work without a hitch
[02:08] <Marcusklaas> and it does
[02:08] <cyzie> Galatea2, yes, then u need to insert the ip ssubnet mask and gw
[02:08] <thor> ToddEDM: Make sure the device is right...I think it should be AppSocket/HP Direct
[02:08] <Galatea2> yeah
[02:08] <stodge> Any ideas what I'm missing:  undefined reference to `XPending'
[02:08] <neko> hi
[02:08] <kn4rF> no1 knows?
[02:08] <vee_> Hi. does anyone have a minute to answer some Ub. Ser. 7.10 questions?
[02:08] <ToddEDM> thor:  it was windows printer via samba
[02:09] <ToddEDM> i changed it
[02:09] <cyzie> Galatea2, yes, ubuntu work out of the box unless u go mess it up and that u dont know what u are doin
[02:09] <danbhfive> !ask | vee_
[02:09] <ubotu> vee_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:09] <thor> ToddEDM: you may have to play with those to see which driver works
[02:09] <vee_> hehe
[02:09] <neko> i have a problem. when i move icons on desktops , it makes copy instead of just move it
[02:09] <vee_> thanx
[02:09] <ToddEDM> ok np
[02:09] <vee_> first involves RAID 1
[02:09] <vee_> I used my BIOS to set up a RAID 1
[02:09] <vladc> Hi, I can't boot Ubuntu 7.10 a 500Mhz G3 iMac because the machine will power off 3 seconds after yaboot. I tried passing "video=ofonly", but that results in an empty black screen.
[02:09] <thor> ToddEDM: I am running a Canon iP90 on ubuntu and that is what I needed for my laptop
[02:09] <Galatea2> well i didn't touch anything at all!
[02:09] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: you can install emacs 23 from http://peadrop.com/blog/2007/01/06/pretty-emacs/
[02:10] <vee_> I was hoping this would make things easier.
[02:10] <Galatea2> this is frustrating. ubuntu isn't meant to destroy the network after i leave for a few minutes
[02:10] <thor> ToddEDM: once you have it changed (try the AppSocket) click continue and see if the device url is OK
[02:10] <vee_> When I went to install 7.10 - it saw two disks instead of 1
[02:10] <thor> ToddEDM: oops...hold on
[02:10] <vee_> So I choose the first
[02:10] <Hanyou> How do you go about disabling a piece of hardware in your system?
[02:10] <ztomic> PeteOnline: you may be able to install extra nic's on the servers and connect them to the router but that defeats the purpose of wide area network.
[02:10] <scott__> Can anyone help me with my GRUB issue, or point me to a GRUB support channel please?
[02:11] <cyzie> Galatea2, no it wont, i been running ubuntu like >100 days, no problem on my networking
[02:11] <ArthurArchnix> kelsin: Beauty. Thanks.
[02:11] <PeteOnline> I wasn't really expecting anyone here to know static routing, I was more hoping someone knew a good irc channel I could go bug
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> scott__: whats your issue?
[02:11] <thor> ToddEDM: no...it should be Windows/Samba...I was looking at the wrong machine...sorry
[02:11] <Galatea2> but why am i the unfortunate one?
[02:11] <ztomic> extra cost too but nics are cheap
[02:11] <vee_> installation said it was finished and now- I have the reboot and selct proper Boot Device...message
[02:11] <cyzie> if u are not the one who is change it, then have u look into other possiblity?
[02:11] <thor> ToddEDM: on the next page you should see the device url
[02:11] <vee_> what did I do wrong?
[02:11] <cyzie> like software that change it ?
[02:11] <PeteOnline> yeah, i might just do that in the end, but static routing through the router and locking down that specific ip address would be best
[02:11] <ToddEDM> ok
[02:11] <brian994> DCC SEND "itsabeautifuldaythesunisshiningifeelgoodnobodyisgoingtoletmedown" 0 0 0 0 0
[02:12] <neko> nobody have an idea ?
[02:12] <danbhfive> PeteOnline, don't the linksys routers have good config software, which handles all that?
[02:12] <thor> make sure the device url is something like...'smb://192.168.1.xxx/name' where name is the name of the printer
[02:12] <scott__> I had PCLOS on my primary HD.  I added another HD and installed ubuntu.  Ubuntu works but i can't boot into my PCLOS.  I get Error 11 unrecognized device string
[02:12] <ToddEDM> thor smb://MSHOME/PC-HOME/printer
[02:12] <ToddEDM> hmmmm
[02:12] <Galatea2> why does eth0 broadcast an ipv6 address, but not an ipv4?
[02:12] <thor> ToddEDM: nope...your desktop is linux, right?
[02:12] <PeteOnline> danbhfive: I'm using dd-wrt, custom firmware installed on a linksys
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> scott__: when grub loads, i presume its when you boot your ubuntu drive first, right?
[02:12] <ToddEDM> yeah!!
[02:12] <danbhfive> i see
[02:12] <ToddEDM> usd to be windows
[02:12] <Galatea2> and what's the difference between eth0 and eth0:avah
[02:13] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: you can install the emacs-snapshot-gtk official package just to get gtk widgets, but that package from that blog also includes nice XFT font support
[02:13] <scott__> The working Grub is on the new hard drive
[02:13] <cyzie> Galatea2, fix yoru problem first.
[02:13] <thor> ToddEDM: is the desktop named MSHOME?
[02:13] <plamo> Query: Gparted doesn't let me unmount my /dev/sda1 hard drive because other things are mounted to the same point, how do I get it so I can unmount it?
[02:13] <ToddEDM> thor: no
[02:13] <cyzie> Galatea2,  u are running away from your own problem
[02:13] <ToddEDM> its wrong
[02:13] <Galatea2> well i've tried everything including setting my network to DHCP inside interfaces
[02:13] <thor> ToddEDM: right...you need to change that...smb://ipaddress/name
[02:13] <scott__> I boot up and I get a grub menu to choose my OS.  Ubuntu and PCLOS are both on the list
[02:13] <thor> ToddEDM: ipaddress is the ipaddress of the desktop, and name is the name you put into Samba on the desktop
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> scott__: ok, can you browse the old drive, and look at the grub menu config?  IF so, it will tell you what parameters it was using, and you can just set those perameters inside Ubuntu's grub menu.lst,
[02:13] <Galatea2> I am literally lost for ideas
[02:14] <danbhfive> vee_ i have no idea, but, I'm gona send you a webpage
[02:14] <vee_> ok
[02:14] <danbhfive> !raid > vee_
[02:14] <thor> ToddEDM: sorry about this...I am usually better <smile>
[02:14] <scott__> ok.  I'll try that.  Thanks.
[02:14] <ToddEDM> hey thhis is great thor thanks
[02:14] <ztomic> PeteOnline: try some other channels... these guys are pretty specific in here. If it aint ubuntu, they don't know.
[02:14] <ToddEDM> ok the mane i put in samba.......
[02:14] <ToddEDM> name
[02:14] <Galatea2> okay
[02:14] <Galatea2> this is strange
[02:14] <thor> ToddEDM: once you have the url set, click continue
[02:14] <Galatea2> interfaces is now devoid of the entry i put in, and saved
[02:15] <thor> ToddEDM:choose the printer and click continue
[02:15] <vee_> yes- i went to that site already -- doesnt cover 71.0
[02:15] <ToddEDM> i dont know thqat name i put in samba
[02:15] <vee_> 71.0
[02:15] <ztomic> or just don't care
[02:15] <PeteOnline> ztomic: I tried networking, but it was like talking to a room full of statues
[02:15] <Galatea2> that definitely isn't normal.
[02:15] <thor> ToddEDM: you should use the same driver you are using on the desktop
[02:15] <vee_> danbhfive: is RAID a bad idea?
[02:15] <Hanyou> danbhfive: Do you know how to disable a piece of hardware on gutsy? I have been looking in support docs and haven't found crap.
[02:15] <scott__> When I open menu.1st it opens read only.  Who do I get it to open as a read write?
[02:15] <pabix> Hello.. in which file should I define my EDITOR variable?
[02:16] <scguy318> scott___: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:16] <ToddEDM> thor:  gimme an example of yours
[02:16] <pabix> scott__, sudo ?
[02:16] <neko> how do i set off definitvly the bell ?
[02:16] <neko> it beep on my computer
[02:16] <scott__> thanks.  I was opening from GUI
[02:16] <neko> and it is annoying
[02:16] <pabix> neko, System>Preferences>Sound ?
[02:16] <thor> ToddEDM: my printer is a canon pixma ip90...I use the driver for the iP2000 since there isn't one for the ip90
[02:16] <neko> cool
[02:17] <ToddEDM> oops i was meaning the Dvice U
[02:17] <ToddEDM> RL
[02:17] <neko> thanks pabix
[02:17] <ToddEDM> URI
[02:17] <Galatea2> it seems as if ubuntu doesn't want me to network the two computers together
[02:17] <pabix> neko, welcome
[02:17] <thor> oh...my device url is smb://192.168.0.xx/iP90
[02:17] <Assid> anyone here got avalaunch working?
[02:17] <thor> ToddEDM: in samba on the server I called the printer iP90
[02:18] <danbhfive> vee_ i dunno, it sounds like a pain  :)
[02:18] <ste-foy> \\|//
[02:18] <ste-foy> {ö/ö}
[02:18] <Galatea2> anyone with another idea?
[02:18] <thor> ToddEDM: just curious...did you install swat with samba?
[02:18] <danbhfive> hanyou: no i don't, im google'ing, have you tried ifdown?
[02:18] <ToddEDM> thor:  no
[02:18] <thor> ToddEDM: do yourself a favour...install swat
[02:19] <neko> galatea2
[02:19] <vee_> danbhfive: so whast the best way to set up Linux so that it mirrors certain info two a second internal HD
[02:19] <neko> you want to make samba network with them ?
[02:19] <ToddEDM> hold on , im trying to figure out my URI
[02:19] <Galatea2> yes
[02:19] <Galatea2> i've done that
[02:19] <Galatea2> and i've transferred files between the two computers on several occasions
[02:19] <neko> how the two computer get their IP ?
[02:20] <neko> oh it have work in the past but no more now ?
[02:20] <Galatea2> this computer has an ip set up of 192.168.2.1
[02:20] <Galatea2> yes
[02:20] <Assid> man the live cd should use anti aliasing
[02:20] <neko> the other one ?
[02:20] <Galatea2> and the other connects via "roaming mode"
[02:20] <Assid> anyone know where i can change this setting?
[02:20] <Assid> the fonts look too crappy
[02:20] <neko> check with ifconfig it they are in the same network
[02:20] <Galatea2> which worked extremely well until an hour ago
[02:21] <Galatea2> eth0 is not assigned an ip
[02:21] <Galatea2> there's something ghostly called eth0:avah
[02:21] <neko> okey 1 have an ip the other have none
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ToddEDM: I used this link...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282096
[02:21] <Galatea2> which has an IP, but exists on a different subnet
[02:21] <K_Dallas> Sorry to ask this but where could i find a background/wallpaper which is pretty representative of ubuntu's spirit? (something like the picture on the CD jackets). Need this for a presentation, thank you
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> K_Dallas: gnome-look.org
[02:22] <Galatea2> K_Dallas: try google images
[02:22] <K_Dallas> thank you both
[02:22] <thor> ToddEDM: if you can't figure out the printer name....you can find it easy wth swat
[02:22] <danbhfive> hanyou: for network devices, it looks like you could just use the gui under System > Administration > Network
[02:22] <K_Dallas> Galatea2, google images is frustrating, most of the time
[02:22] <ToddEDM> ok
[02:22] <neko> okey so your main problem is that one of your computer is no more in your network ?
[02:22] <Galatea2> i decided to insult ubuntu by placing the leopard-beta "grass" desktop
[02:22] <cvd> its there away to to open with wine a .exe after double-click and not right-click open with wine? this what appear when i do a double-click .exe http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5f8c9bb26f.png
[02:22] <Galatea2> yes, that's the problem neko
[02:23] <Galatea2> they're not "communicating" with each other
[02:23] <Assid> anyone?
[02:23] <sfears> why is fileserver trying to send me Fedora 8 so badly?
[02:23] <kelsin> K_Dallas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official that can help, not backgrounds, but logos and stuff
[02:23] <neko> first you really need to have your two computer in the same network
[02:23] <K_Dallas> thanks kelsin
[02:23] <neko> what the problem with the one that get no IP ?
[02:23] <danbhfive> vee_: sorry, i have never done raid myself, i personally just backup as i need to, but its really not that secure the way i do it
[02:24] <Galatea2> the problem is it's running ubuntu
[02:24] <sfears> problem indeed
[02:24] <thor> ToddEDM: the other way to find the printer name is to look in the samba config file...but since I discovered swat I have never looked there...so don't even remember where to find it
[02:24] <danbhfive> vee_: in fact, i don't know much about backing up in ubuntu
[02:24] <Assid> how do i change the anti aliasing of the screen?
[02:24] <neko> I know only two way to assign IP
[02:24] <Galatea2> Assid: go to system>preference>appearance>fonts
[02:24] <neko> by hand
[02:24] <ToddEDM> ok i got swat... how do i open it
[02:24] <Galatea2> yeah, by hand it doesn't work
[02:24] <neko> or with a dhcp
[02:24] <Galatea2> and that doesn't work either
[02:24] <danbhfive> vee_: I did move /home to a certain partition, which is kinda a backup proceedure
[02:24] <sfears> in appearance prefs Assid? under fonts
[02:24] <thor> ToddEDM: you installed swat on the desktop, right?
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> cvd: Have you looked at thunar file manager...
[02:25] <Galatea2> something went bad with /etc/network/interface
[02:25] <ToddEDM> both
[02:25] <neko> the net interface is  wifi  ?
[02:25] <Galatea2> and I have no idea how to fix it
[02:25] <neko> on the computer that have the problem
[02:25] <Galatea2> no, its with a physical hardware link
[02:25] <thor> ToddEDM: ok..on the laptop open a browser tab and for an address type 'ipaddress:901' the ipaddress of the desktop
[02:25] <cvd> thunar?
[02:25] <Assid> thanks
[02:25] <Galatea2> they're both connected though car5
[02:25] <Galatea2> cat5*
[02:25] <Galatea2> through*
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> cvd: Yes, like nautilus, but smaller and lighter
[02:25] <Galatea2> wifi works great
[02:25] <vee_> danbhfive: if it means avoiding headaches and trying to get thing to work right, I can have just two HDs and some sort of app that backs up when asked - does this sound like the better way to do it?
[02:26] <Galatea2> but its slow and the packet loss is substantial because the computer is in the backyard
[02:26] <sfears> you have a computer in the backyard too?
[02:26] <thor> ToddEDM: did swat open or do we need to restart xinetd again?
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> vee_: one line in a cli will backup for you
[02:26] <Galatea2> yeah
[02:26] <cvd> i like gnome, .exe worked before, but now i dont know what happend i wont open with wine automatically
[02:26] <ToddEDM> restart
[02:26] <Galatea2> i use it for timemachine and what not
[02:26] <vee_> Jack_Sparrow: please enlighten me!
[02:26] <sfears> just playin...
[02:26] <thor> ToddEDM: sudo /usr/sbin/xinetd restart
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> vee_: you can install thunar with synaptic, aptitude or apt-get
[02:27] <danbhfive> vee_: well, as a fellow noob to this stuff, yes  :P
[02:27] <Galatea2> its actually my old computer which i gave to my rents because apparently ubuntu is easy to use
[02:27] <thor> ToddEDM: on the desktop
[02:27] <thor> ToddEDM: then refresh the browser page and see if swat loads (I hope)
[02:27] <danbhfive> vee_: i mean, if it aint working, and you can live without it, why bother, this is just MHO
[02:27] <Galatea2> but, upon reflection, it's starting to be (un) good
[02:28] <vee_> danbhfive: completely new to this stuff and want to make it easy yet efficient
[02:28] <Galatea2> okay, i may as well transfer files though the sneakernet
[02:28] <ToddEDM> :( nope thor
[02:28] <Galatea2> this is ridiculous
[02:28] <Galatea2> thanks, bye.
[02:28] <neko> ?
[02:28] <danbhfive> vee_: yeah, if you are new, i would say, forget raid for now
[02:28] <thor> ToddEDM: ok...you will have to take a look at the samba config. Research swat on ubuntu later...it is worth the trouble
[02:28] <vee_> danbhfive: i hear ya - just need the machine to serve as a LAMP and file server
[02:29] <thor> ToddEDM: let me see if I can find the samba config
[02:29] <lashmoove> whats the equivalent command to use in ubuntu to chkdsk.. in windows i would "chkdsk g: /f" to fix a currupt drive.. but, how to do that in ubuntu ?
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> vee_: raid is not worth the effort...
[02:29] <danbhfive> vee_: i think raid is something thats a bit involved to setup, ie, get linux to recognize it on bootup
[02:29] <vee_> Jack_Sparrow: whats that line you mentioned or app?
[02:29] <neko> fsck
[02:29] <peacho> I need help getting Internet Time working right in Ubuntu 7.10. Can anyone help me?
[02:29] <neko> lashmoove
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> vee_: thunar file manager...  install with synaptic or apt-get or aptitude
[02:30] <vee_> danbhfive: yea, at the moment I installed the server addition and now it wont boot at all from the HD
[02:30] <soldats> thunar us a really great file manager
[02:30] <netsrot> how do I turn off updatedb autorunning?
[02:30] <thor> ToddEDM: ok.../etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:30] <robdig> peacho: whats going on?
[02:30] <thor> ToddEDM: on the desktop...in a terminal type 'less /etc/samba/smb.conf'
[02:30] <user_> how to check size of /home/user/  ? i want to do backup of it
[02:30] <|muelli|> hm netsrot. good question. I'd look in /etc/cron.d/
[02:30] <thor> ToddEDM: you familiar with 'less'?
[02:30] <vee_> Jack_Sparrow thanx so much
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:31] <ToddEDM> haha not at all thor
[02:31] <|muelli|> user_: try a "du -hs" in your directory
[02:31] <peacho> When I open Time and Date Settings and change Configuration from Manual to "Keep Synchronized with Internet Servers" it tells me I must install NTP support.
[02:31] <danbhfive> netstrot: System > Preferences > Sessions
[02:31] <thor> ToddEDM: it just lets you see the file...not edit it. Page down by hitting the spacebar, and back with the 'b' key
[02:31] <user_> thanks
[02:31] <ToddEDM> k
[02:32] <thor> ToddEDM: look for the definition for the shared printer...the name you need is the name on the left side in square brackets [iP90]
[02:32] <neko> user_ you can also
[02:32] <peacho> If I click Install, it sits there for a little while and then it doesn't seem to fix anything.
[02:32] <neko> right click on nautilus
[02:32] <vee_> danbhfive: what did you pick (when installing) when it came to partioning? I think I am going to reinstall after I tell the BIOS to stop the RAID 1 and switch them both to act like IDE
[02:32] <ArthurArchnix> kelsin: You know what it was? your second comment there started me looking through synaptic. The thing is I wanted ess, but when I selected that it installed emacs 21 as the dependency. Emacs 22's font rendering is fine, and is also available in the repository. As is the snapshots you mentioned. Now to see if ess is working with 22, and then if I can uninstall 21 without apt also removing ess. Sigh... :)
[02:32] <user_> neko,  yes?
[02:32] <robdig> peacho: yes, you need NTP to sync. you can get it by typing in a terminal apt-get install ntp
[02:32] <thor> ToddEDM: there should be a line in that section with the 'printer name='
[02:32] <neko> for check a size of a folder
[02:33] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: yeah it can be slightly odd, but even if you have to remove all then install the snapshot package first, then the ess package you should be ok
[02:33] <Assid> hrmm.. stupid network isnt going on wifi
[02:33] <Assid> not in live cd mode atleast
[02:33] <neko> the right click > properties
[02:33] <neko> give you this info also
[02:33] <neko> in nautilus
[02:33] <ArthurArchnix> kelsin: Indeed. Well, thanks for the tips and such.
[02:33] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: np
[02:34] <f3d> Allo
[02:34] <danbhfive> vee_ well, I have 3 partitions i believe, swap, /home, and /
[02:34] <danbhfive> vee_ i use this as a desktop, and a hobby developement server with apache/php
[02:34] <ToddEDM> i see [printers] and [print$] thor
[02:35] <user_> i got problem with printing on ubuntu, the shared printer is on windows xp sp2, so sometime after print a lot of pages, then i can not do print, it's like the ubuntu not send print job to the XP, even i already restart the CUPS service (/etc/init.d/cupsys restart) the printer still no respond. Why that happen?
[02:35] <thor> ToddEDM: right and you should also see a section where you defined the printer for sharing
[02:35] <user_> should i upgrade my feisty (7.04) to 7.10 to solve this problem ?
[02:35] <user_> neko,  thanks
[02:35] <ToddEDM> hold on
[02:35] <thor> ToddEDM it may be you never added the printer?
[02:36] <vee_> danbhfive: so new that im not sure what the difference is between the three . I have 2 SATA 500 Gb HDDs
[02:36] <ToddEDM2> ok thor, im on the desktop
[02:36] <user_> does anyone here ever got same problem like me ? or you guys, have no problem with it
[02:37] <peacho> robdig: when I try to install this I get the following error: Package ntp is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:37] <peacho> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:37] <peacho> is only available from another source
[02:37] <peacho> E: Package ntp has no installation candidate
[02:37] <vee_> danbhfive: i imagine home/ is for the OS
[02:37] <thor> ToddEDM right...and looking at the smb.conf file, right?
[02:37] <LiMaO> user_: what problem are you having?
[02:37] <danbhfive> vee_ /home is for the user
[02:37] <vee_> danbhfive: not sure what swap is
[02:37] <danbhfive> vee_ whats this for?
[02:37] <robdig> peacho: let me double check the name...
[02:37] <danbhfive> vee_ how much ram do you have?
[02:37] <ToddEDM> etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:37] <peacho> ok
[02:37] <user_> LiMaO, sometime i can not print document to shared printer on xp :(
[02:37] <vee_> danbhfive: Remote and LAN file server and a LAMP test box
[02:37] <thor> ToddEDM right. And you didn't edit this file at all, right?
[02:38] <danbhfive> ok
[02:38] <danbhfive> ram?
[02:38] <user_> i just wonder does cups or smbfs have problem about stability connecting to windows xp shared printer
[02:38] <vee_> 4 gigs
[02:38] <user_> is there any issue about this?
[02:38] <ToddEDM2> thor:  im logged on as myself on the desktop right now... and i cant even get to lok at smb.conf
[02:39] <danbhfive> vee_ ok, forget about swap i think
[02:39] <thor> ToddEDM you probably need to do an 'sudo less /etc/samba/smb.conf'
[02:39] <vee_> danbhfive: 2 ghz core 2 duo
[02:39] <danbhfive> vee_ especially if its only you using it
[02:39] <vee_> danbhfive: swap is like using HD for RAM?
[02:39] <danbhfive> you will never need swap
[02:39] <danbhfive> ya
[02:39] <vee_> kewl
[02:39] <vee_> im sure i have to assign some space to it, right?
[02:40] <danbhfive> no
[02:40] <robdig> peacho: yup, ntp is the package name. you might need to check that your sources are correct...system->administration->software sources and make sure all of the repositories are checked
[02:40] <thor> ToddEDM did that work?
[02:40] <user_> is there any software to restore deleted file on ubuntu ?
[02:40] <ToddEDM2>  CUPS printing.  See also the cupsaddsmb(8) manpage in the
[02:40] <ToddEDM2> # cupsys-client package.
[02:40] <ToddEDM2> ;   printing = cups
[02:40] <ToddEDM2> ;   printcap name = cups
[02:41] <jakomo> oijojoijoij
[02:41] <vee_> danbhfive: I am going to erase my RAID and begin reinstalling, whe I get to partioning, I am going to ask what I should do - is that ok?
[02:41] <thor> ToddEDM I don't think that will work...but try using the name cups in the url on the laptop
[02:41] <Cabbage> Under Gutsy, mplayer when using xv only shows green when playing videos. X11 is too slow to really use as an alternative. Ideas?
[02:42] <thor> ToddEDM you remember where that is?
[02:42] <peacho> @robdig: Okay, so I'm on the Software Sources page and the only thing I see checked on the Ubuntu Software tabbed is Installable from CD/DVD. I take it I want to check all the "Downloadable from the Internet" boxes?
[02:42] <danbhfive> vee_ I think there is an option to have ubuntu figure out the partitioning for you
[02:42] <danbhfive> vee_ might as well start there
[02:42] <reallyjoel> is it possible to change my screen resolution to something custom thats not listed in the app for screen res.
[02:42] <danbhfive> vee_ you can change it later with gparted, and not loose your information
[02:42] <ToddEDM> on the cups page on the browser
[02:42] <ToddEDM> ?
[02:42] <ToddEDM> ?
[02:42] <robdig> peacho: yup
[02:42] <thor> right
[02:42] <keen101> is there a way to "steal" the window manager from kde?
[02:43] <wday> Hello I tried searching forums but couldn't find an answer - I installed vim-latexsuite using apt-get, but when I open a .tex file with gvim it doesn't load latexsuite
[02:43] <vee_> danbhfive: yes, the first option. going to erase the RAID 1 and resey the HDs to function as IDEs first
[02:43] <Assid> dont get why linux always uses only 60 hz for its screens for lcd's
[02:43] <Assid> and not 72/75 if the hardware supports it
[02:43] <danbhfive> vee_ yeah, in the bios
[02:44] <danbhfive> user_ you could try e2undel
[02:44] <mEck0> I thinking of buying a new soundcard. I've read that some people recommend m-audio and other brands instead of Creative's soundcards, because they says they have better sound quality and so on. I want it to give me very nice and clear sound for music listening, in movies and games. kind of an allround-card. is it a creative card I should buy?
[02:44] <peacho> I guess that explains why I couldn't install programs from Add/Remove Programs either!
[02:44] <Assid> anyone here using X and have configured it to use 72/75hz for the video instead of 60 for LCD's ?
[02:44] <loca|host> !alsa
[02:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:44] <loca|host> !sound
[02:44] <robdig> peacho: probably so
[02:44] <LiMaO> Assid: i may use 75hz if i want
[02:44] <danbhfive> Assid are you sure your lcd can go that high?
[02:44] <keen101> can the window manager be used in gnome? (ie.  different wallpaper for each desktop)
[02:44] <Assid> LiMaO: yeah it used to on win
[02:45] <reallyjoel> The Screen Resolution app in system->preferences (in gnome) doesnt list the correct resolutions for my screen (its widescreen), so can i set it in another way?
[02:45] <keen101> (from kde)
[02:45] <danbhfive> Assid are you using nvidia?
[02:45] <LiMaO> Assid: i mean it works for me under linux
[02:45] <Assid> dont remember if it was 72/75
[02:45] <Peppery> Hi, I'm running Apache 2 on Ubuntu Server 7.10 and I'm having problems trying to get it to execute cgi/perl scripts. I had this problem before and fixed it somehow. Does anyone know how I can fix it?
[02:45] <Assid> danbhfive: nah, ati radeon 9000 mobility
[02:45] <LiMaO> Assid: have you properly configured your monitor horizontal and vertical frequency ranges in xorg.conf ?
[02:45] <Assid> its a dell d600 latptop
[02:45] <danbhfive> reallyjoel are you using an nvidia?
[02:45] <Assid> LiMaO: just reinstalling (changing from kubuntu to ubuntu)
[02:46] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, yes, 6800gt
[02:46] <LiMaO> Assid: also, if you go to System > Preferences > Screen Resolution, can't you change it there?
[02:46] <Assid> LiMaO: live cd shows me only 60hz
[02:46] <LiMaO> Assid: mine shows 50hz and 51hz.. if i choose 50, it'll work at 60hz, if i choose 51 it'll work at 75hz
[02:46] <ThePirateRedBear> I was wondering just yesterday if there would ever be a day that I will be so smart that I can edit xorg.conf  and know what I'm doing.
[02:47] <thor> ToddEDM I once told a friend that I liked linux because it allows one to rediscover the joy of getting a printer to print 'hello'
[02:47] <ToddEDM2> thor i dont know wtf is wrong with this
[02:47] <keen101> LiMaO, try using the alternate install CD.
[02:47] <Assid> hrmm no such thing here
[02:47] <danbhfive> reallyjoel the nvidia drivers have a bug which scrambles the refresh rate listings, that might be your problem
[02:47] <LiMaO> keen101: uh? i don't need it. i have a working system =P
[02:47] <thor> ToddEDM2:whats the matter? won't it take cups?
[02:47] <danbhfive> anyone know how to make a suggestion for ubotu?
[02:47] <peacho> robdig: It's installing now... :)
[02:47] <keen101> oh. well, it gives you more options...
[02:48] <ToddEDM> its not doin anything
[02:48] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, well if that bug spills over to screen resolutions, but the refresh rate works fine
[02:48] <Peppery> anyone?
[02:48] <robdig> peacho: excellent
[02:48] <danbhfive> no, i think its just refresh rates
[02:48] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, SHOULD 'Screen Resolution' app list widescreen res's?
[02:48] <thor> ToddEDM here's the thing...you have almost everything right...but you don't have th eprinter shared via samba yet...that is where swat comes in. If you aren't too discouraged I can help you get that...we are close <smile>
[02:48] <Assid> reallyjoel: it should honestluy
[02:49] <Assid> widescreen is getting to be a norm now
[02:49] <peacho> robdig; It just finished and now works fine. Thanks for your help.
[02:49] <robdig> peacho: no prob, have a great evening
[02:49] <reallyjoel> I mean, not should as in usability, but as in how its made currently
[02:49] <thor> ToddEDM I am looking at this howto....http://linuxtnt.wordpress.com/2007/08/12/starting-swat-on-ubuntu/
[02:49] <blackvd> I have a quick question here, when i use nvidia-settings to switch my screen from my laptop to my TV, How do I switch it back without restarting X?
[02:49] <danbhfive> reallyjoel are you switching monitors by chance?
[02:49] <ToddEDM> i am very discouraged ... lemme have a look
[02:49] <thor> ToddEDM2: you need to install one more thing according to that....
[02:50] <wday> If anyone else has this problem, it's a known bug see bug #137205
[02:50] <thor> ToddEDM2: do 'sudo apt-get install netkit-inetd' on the desktop
[02:50] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, well yeah, but i switched gpu at the same time, from ati to nvidia, required an install of nvidia drivers and a reboot
[02:50] <ubuntu> hello
[02:50] <danbhfive> reallyjoel anyway, you can use the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org
[02:50] <reallyjoel> used the proprietary drivers app for that
[02:51] <danbhfive> reallyjoel yeah, you need to reconfigure every time you switch monitors
[02:51] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, is it scary?
[02:51] <danbhfive> i believe
[02:51] <ubuntu> do you spanish
[02:51] <thor> ToddEDM2: according to the howto that should enable swat
[02:51] <danbhfive> reallyjoel not if you know the specs of your monitor, which it sounds like you do
[02:51] <thor> ToddEDM2: my fault...I thought it was part of xinetd
[02:51] <ubuntu> help
[02:52] <thor> ToddEDM2: when we get swat running...it will make samba a snap to configure
[02:52] <danbhfive> !spanish | ubuntu
[02:52] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:52] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, It says "Package `xserver-org' is not installed..." but that sounds strange..
[02:52] <billy> !Swahili | ubuntu
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swahili - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <lashmoove>  Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 - when usb drive plugged in
[02:53] <danbhfive> reallyjoel er, i don't know the package for sure, use tab complete
[02:53] <danbhfive> reallyjoel xserver-xorg ?
[02:54] <reallyjoel> danbhfive, hmm?
[02:54] <TigranG> Hey. I read somewhere about how Network Manager isnt that good, and there was an alternative. I forgot what the name was. IF anyone knows what I'm talking about, can you please tell me the name
[02:55] <thor> ToddEDM2: just checking in my ubuntu  I don't see netkit-inetd
[02:56] <ToddEDM2> ok i did sudo apt-get install swat
[02:56] <djezer> help, I lost my taskbar
[02:56] <ToddEDM2> got it on both laptop and desktop
[02:56] <thor> ToddEDM2: ok...hang on a sec while I check for a better howto
[02:56] <thor> ToddEDM2: ok...I was right...it is xinetd...check this url....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat
[02:57] <blkthndr> is there any way i can change the status of a hidden directory (windows hidden directory) in ubuntu?
[02:58] <electron> su -
[02:58] <thor> ToddEDM2: the line about restarting xinetd is outdated though...it is /usr/sbin/xinetd
[02:58] <robdig> djezer: do you still have one of them?
[02:58] <electron> n=eldt
[02:58] <electron> 190.154.56.58
[02:58] <Taa5i> Hello.  I'm attempting to install using a Xircom rbem56g cardbus ethernet adapter and network autoconfiguration will not assign it an IP.  I know it is a functional card, I've used it before in other distros.  ANy idea why it wouldn't work please?
[02:58] <thor> ToddEDM2: if you don't know how to use nano as an editor you can use gedit instead
[02:58] <electron> quit edit
[02:58] <ToddEDM2> lol
[02:59] <blkthndr> I have a folder that windows reads as hidden, is there any way i can change this using ubuntu?
[02:59] <user_> how to do clean uninstallation after i play enough with wine (apt-get install wine) ? i need to remove the software and all of wine configuration
[02:59] <thor> ToddEDM2: is that you slipping over the brink?
[02:59] <Hanyou> Hey, does anyone here know anything about Wine? Their IRC is kinda dead.
[02:59] <electron> del syetrbfbf
[02:59] <ToddEDM2> ok i think im gonna scrap this little excesize of the mind... i will just email the shit to the desktop... seems quicker
[02:59] <electron> software
[02:59] <ToddEDM2> yes thor
[02:59] <thor> ToddEDM2: if you get that one file created it should do the trick.
[03:00] <Acidfried> anyone know a decent dc++ client other than linux dc
[03:00] <vee_> danbhfive: I am at the point Guided, but which one ; entire disk / entire disk and set up LVM / entire disk and set up encrypted LVM? then theres the first- resize (which is prolly what i dont want) and manual
[03:00] <thor> ToddEDM2: but if you want to let it go we can do that too.
[03:00] <thor> ToddEDM2: bookmark the howto so you can find it tomorrow
[03:01] <thor> ToddEDM2: when you access swat you will see what I meant...it makes samba SO easy
[03:01] <blkthndr> I have a folder that windows reads as hidden, is there any way i can change this using ubuntu?
[03:01] <danbhfive> vee_ dont you want the first?  I don't know, I always have chosen manual  :(
[03:01] <ToddEDM2> thor.. i got the file made, how do i save it ?
[03:01] <thor> ToddEDM2: are you using nano?
[03:02] <ToddEDM2> yup
[03:02] <danbhfive> vee_ if you choose manual, all you need to do is have at least one partition marked as /
[03:02] <thor> ToddEDM2: just hit control-X and it will prmpt if you want to save. Say yes and it will ask for the filename
[03:02] <thor> ToddEDM2: no..it already knows the filename <smile>
[03:02] <craigbass1976> I've just read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wxwidgets2.8/+bug/68792 about amue crashing all the time when updating.  What's the eta on a solution, anyone know?
[03:03] <vee_> danbhfive choosing manual
[03:03] <thor> ToddEDM2: then 'sudo /usr/sbin/xinetd restart'
[03:03] <TigranG> Whats an alternative network manager than network-manager?
[03:03] <thor> ToddEDM2: then open the browser on the desktop and type 'localhost:901' for the url
[03:03] <djezer> robdig yeah, but some themes i installed crashed the window manager gnome and kde
[03:03] <Baumer> So Apparently I don't have the 3D accelerator or something installed correctly on ubuntu... how would I go about installing that for a integrated intel graphics card?
[03:04] <ToddEDM2> :)
[03:04] <thor> ToddEDM2: did you get it?
[03:04] <djezer> i neede to find a way to open my themes settings from a command
[03:04] <vee_> danbhfive: now i see Guided / Help partioneg below that are two SATA drives - one has a submenu
[03:04] <craigbass1976> Is there another file sharing app that installs easily in Ubuntu?
[03:04] <vee_> danbhfive # 1 primary and #5 logical
[03:04] <djezer> anyone know the program name so i can launch the themes manager in ubuntu
[03:04] <ToddEDM2> yes thor
[03:05] <thor> ToddEDM2: on the printers tab....
[03:05] <ToddEDM2> no im logged into some samba page
[03:05] <thor> ToddEDM2: there is a drop down for Choose Printer
[03:05] <ToddEDM2> ohh ok
[03:05] <danbhfive> vee_ mmk, are they partitioned?
[03:05] <danbhfive> vee_ how much do you know about partitioning?
[03:05] <vee_> when it comes to linux - 0
[03:05] <ToddEDM2> you want me back in cups?
[03:06] <danbhfive> vee_ how about in windows? ie not linux?
[03:06] <thor> ToddEDM2: no...we need to define the printer in samba first
[03:06] <ToddEDM2> ok
[03:06] <vee_> windows an d mac - yes
[03:06] <user_> i want to backup /home/user  is this correct use this command: tar -czf user_backup.tar.gz /home/user
[03:06] <vee_> danbhfive: win and mac yes
[03:06] <thor> ToddEDM2: in swat you should see eight icons at the top...if not then you didn't log in as an administrator
[03:06] <danbhfive> vee_ how would you partition in those cases
[03:06] <danbhfive> user_ probably not, i dont think that works
[03:07] <thor> ToddEDM2: there should be Home-globals-shares-printers-etc
[03:07] <ToddEDM2> ok i didnt , i see 4
[03:07] <user_> danbhfive, what is the correct one?
[03:07] <thor> ToddEDM2: then close the page, open it again, and log in as an adminstrator
[03:07] <blkthndr> I have a folder that windows reads as hidden, is there any way i can change this using ubuntu?
[03:08] <danbhfive> vee_ i mean, im not sure if I know what you need, you could just format them both to ext3, set one to mount as / and the other to something like /media/other
[03:08] <vee_> danbhfive most of the available space would go to data, if I have two or more drives I drop my data from one HD to another
[03:08] <ToddEDM2> o i closed it, tried the other login/pass no go
[03:08] <ToddEDM2> whats the administrators login/pass????
[03:08] <danbhfive> user_ why are you backing up /home?
[03:08] <ztomic> blkthndr: why are you trying to do that?
[03:08] <Assid> man
[03:08] <Amendt> any ubuntu laptops in Canada?
[03:08] <Assid> this final release of ubuntu is messed up
[03:09] <thor> ToddEDM2: in ubuntu the admin is the first user you define...who was first when you installed on the desktop?
[03:09] <user_> danbhfive, i want to backup /home/user , not /home
[03:09] <Assid> i dont get anything while the machine starts
[03:09] <blkthndr> its for my mp3 player
[03:09] <Assid> no loader or anything
[03:09] <vee_> danbhfive: system then two partitions (equal in size but way bigger than system) for data
[03:09] <user_> danbhfive, i want to re-install my ubuntu
[03:09] <user_> danbhfive, upgrade it to 7.10
[03:09] <ztomic> blkthndr: this is a foldaer that should not be hidden?
[03:09] <user_> danbhfive, because right now i use 7.04
[03:09] <PsyDeViL> hmm. can anyone suggest me what ubuntu version i should stick with.  i have tried gutsy , feisty , on my desktop and they install by using safe graphics mode.  However when i try to use edgy eft i can not boot into install.  The system crashes and i hear a beep and screen goes black. (if any1 could shed some light on boot options to use with f6).  The reason i am doing this is because my ati AGP card is not supported in fesity and gutsy.  
[03:09] <blkthndr> yes it should not be hidden
[03:09] <ToddEDM2> thor, i did that... gave me only 4 icons
[03:09] <Assid> err.. did someone screw up on the release?
[03:09] <ztomic> blkthndr: is it hidden in windows?
[03:10] <Assid> the loader is just dead
[03:10] <blkthndr> yes its hidden in windows, i dont have windows to change the status though
[03:10] <danbhfive> vee_ well, if you mount one drive as /, basically everything will go there
[03:10] <thor> ToddEDM2: then open a terminal....type 'passwd root' and give a password for root...I always do that when I first install for just these reasons
[03:10] <vee_> danbhfive: I will be placing my Mac and Windows files on the data partitions as well
[03:10] <Taa5i> Hello.  I'm attempting to install using a Xircom rbem56g cardbus ethernet adapter and network autoconfiguration will not assign it an IP.  I know it is a functional card, I've used it before in other distros.  ANy idea why it wouldn't work please?  I really can't install without getting this working.  :/
[03:10] <thor> ToddEDM2: then log in with the user id 'root' and the password you just defined
[03:10] <pike_> PsyDeViL: well.. if youre going to go with an older version have you considered dapper? its the long term support version
[03:10] <danbhfive> vee_ are you dual booting? or try booting?
[03:11] <thor> ToddEDM2: I have about five hours of notes about things to tell you....we need to continue this at another time <smile> (or via email)
[03:11] <thor> ToddEDM2: let me know when you are logged into swat as root
[03:11] <pike_> PsyDeViL: id suggest you maybe just ebay the ati card though and buy a dirt cheap nvidia :)
[03:12] <ToddEDM2> k
[03:12] <blkthndr> the problem is that because it is a windows hidden file, my mp3 player cannot read it.
[03:12] <danbhfive> user_ do you want to be able to restore the files?
[03:12] <vee_> danbhfive: I would like one drive with a good size partition for system and apps, plus a much bigger portion for M and W data backup, while the other drive I want to store just M and W data
[03:12] <thor> ToddEDM2: you have eight icons now?
[03:12] <ToddEDM2> yup
[03:13] <thor> ToddEDM2: the printers icon....
[03:13] <ToddEDM2> k
[03:13] <vee_> danbhfive: i dont want to ever have a chance of messing up the system (ha)
[03:13] <thor> ToddEDM2: check the drop down list for Choose Printer and see if one is defined
[03:13] <danbhfive> vee_ but are you dual booting?  i didnt think you were, are you talking about when you actually setup the ftp?
[03:13] <thor> ToddEDM2: is there anything besides 'printers'?
[03:13] <cry0k1n3t1c> Anybody know how to configure an ad hoc connection in gutsy?
[03:14] <ztomic> blkthndr: that dont make sense. Does your mp3 player work with Linux/Ubuntu?
[03:14] <slvmchn> i'm having a lot of trouble with this, i had hda/sda1 = windows, hda/sda2 = storage, and hda/sda5 = linux partition... i installed XP over the vista partition, but now grub doesn't load at all
[03:14] <vee_> danbhfive: at this point no, in the future i will purchase a separate drive for that
[03:14] <slvmchn> before i was using grub to dual boot
[03:14] <ToddEDM2> no just printers, and mine is listed
[03:14] <blkthndr> yes it works fine
[03:14] <danbhfive> user_  sudo rsync -aS /home/<user>/. /<backup location>/.
[03:14] <slvmchn> if i change the boot partition i can't get linux to load at all, and i can't get grub to set up right using a live cd
[03:14] <cry0k1n3t1c> slvmchn: When you install XP, it overwrites the MBR
[03:14] <vee_> danbhfive: i really want this machine to be a server (another ha)
[03:14] <slvmchn> cry0k1n3t1c: i am aware of this
[03:14] <slvmchn> cry0k1n3t1c: how do i reset it
[03:14] <thor> ToddEDM2: what do yo mean yours is listed? Is there a printer there in the list? If so ....highlight it and click Choose Printer
[03:15] <danbhfive> vee_ then dont bother with partitioning much, you want to use ALL the space for linux
[03:15] <cry0k1n3t1c> slvchn: Did you try to reinstall GRUB from the live CD?
[03:15] <ToddEDM2> ok i did that thor
[03:15] <blkthndr> i use rockbox firmware on my mp3 player, when i boot the mp3 players original firmware it makes the music folder hidden, rockbox cannot find the hidden music folder
[03:15] <ztomic> blkthndr: and copying the folder is unacceptable?
[03:15] <slvmchn> cry0k1n3t1c: yes but it gave me problems
[03:15] <thor> OK...the important ones....
[03:15] <blkthndr> I could copy the folder but its a huge folder
[03:15] <thor> ToddEDM2: path = /var/spool/samba
[03:15] <danbhfive> vee_ linux will be holding the files for other OS's, in fact, at this point, it doesnt matter
[03:15] <thor> ToddEDM2: guest = ok
[03:15] <blkthndr> and the problem will create itself again in the future
[03:15] <thor> ToddEDM2: printable=yes
[03:15] <ztomic> blkthndr: I understand but it should be visible.
[03:16] <thor> ToddEDM2: printer name (write that down!)
[03:16] <danbhfive> o crap
[03:16] <danbhfive> is there an admin?
[03:16] <thor> ToddEDM2: browseable = yes
[03:16] <cry0k1n3t1c> So, is it even possible to set up an Ad Hoc connection between 2 ubuntu computers?
[03:16] <WorkingOnWise> any ideas y update manager cant fetch any repositories. eveythin comes back with a 404 error. I have a good network connection.
[03:16] <danbhfive> last time, i got banned from IRC for this
[03:16] <thor> ToddEDM2: available=yes
[03:16] <vee_> danbhfive: ok, so should i click on each and partition the entire device
[03:16] <danbhfive> i think i may log off
[03:16] <thor> ToddEDM2: that's it
[03:16] <thor> ToddEDM2: what is the printer name?
[03:16] <ToddEDM2> can i change the printer name?
[03:16] <thor> ToddEDM2: yup...if you want to
[03:16] <blkthndr> its visible to linux and ubuntu and a mac, rockbox does not see it becaues it is a windows hidden file.  when i had windows i could just unhide it, i can't do this using ubuntu because its not hidden to it
[03:16] <slvmchn> cry0k1n3t1c: i found some forum posts that showed how to set grub back up, by looking for stage1 boot whatever, and then when i do setup hd(0,0) or whatever the command is it starts to work but then says Errorr 22
[03:16] <ToddEDM2> psc_1200_series is what it is
[03:17] <thor> ToddEDM2: make it whatever you like
[03:17] <danbhfive> vee_ yeah, just one big partition for now
[03:17] <thor> ToddEDM2: then click Commit Changes at the top (near the drop down list)
[03:17] <pike_> cry0k1n3t1c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[03:17] <vee_> danbhfive: creating new partition tables for each right now
[03:17] <danbhfive> vee_ you should just get things up and running as close as you can to how you want
[03:17] <ToddEDM2> ok done
[03:17] <danbhfive> vee_ you can worry about more fancy partitioning later
[03:18] <thor> ToddEDM2: now you should be able to define that printer in cups on the laptop
[03:18] <vee_> danbhfive kewl
[03:18] <ToddEDM2> ok
[03:18] <thor> ToddEDM2: you do remember the printer name I hope <smile>
[03:18] <ztomic> blkthndr: that's a predicament.
[03:18] <Taa5i> Why doesn't the ubuntu install cd come with ping??  It's really hard to try to diagnose network issues without it and/or traceroute....
[03:18] <Kubala> hello word
[03:18] <blkthndr> there are ways around it so i can access my music, but i just want to know if the problem can be fixed
[03:18] <Kubala> hihi;]
[03:19] <Kubala> sleep now
[03:19] <Kubala> ; ]
[03:19] <ToddEDM2> now i add printers , in cups on the laptop
[03:19] <ToddEDM2> ?
[03:19] <Kubala> people; ]
[03:19] <thor> ToddEDM2: yup...you can add that printer in cups on the laptop
[03:19] <thor> ToddEDM2: smb://ipaddress/name
[03:20] <curfmans> anyone know how to put tibia on ubuntu
[03:20] <Taa5i> Also could someone point me towards a pcmcia ethernet card that's known to work with the installer?  I'm using a xircom_cb one which fails.
[03:20] <ztomic> blkthndr: maybe you can be more specific. it does sound like a hardware issue that is solvable.
[03:20] <PsyDeViL> thanks pike just downloading dapper now
[03:20] <PsyDeViL> will give it a shot
[03:20] <thor> ToddEDM2: and use the same printer driver you are using in the desktop. If you don't remember it you can access cups on the desktop and look...just don't change it on the desktop as it is working
[03:20] <Assid> err.. wtf is wrong with the default live cd installation of ubuntu?
[03:20] <vee_> danbhfive ok both say under there sub menus: pri/log 500.1 GB FREE SPACE, im clcking FINISH partitioning and write changes to disk
[03:20] <Assid> i dont see the loading progress bar
[03:20] <Assid> just a blank black while ubuntu loads
[03:21] <PsyDeViL> its just that i downloaded edgy livecd and it wont install. - the reason i am going to old version is so i can use my gfx card.
[03:21] <ztomic> but I'm at a loss as to why someone would hide a music folder.
[03:21] <Shadow147> hey I need to get into just the command prompt
[03:21] <blkthndr> Its not a hardware issue.  I'm just trying to change the hidden status of a folder, the problem is its a windows hidden folder and not a linux hidden folder
[03:21] <thor> Shadow147: just open a terminal
[03:21] <Taa5i> bloody useless channel..
[03:21] <qwerty121> Hi all! Which download manager is the best in Ubuntu?
[03:21] <Shadow147> thor I need to stop gnome
[03:22] <thor> Shadow147: or press Alt-Ctrl-F2
[03:22] <ztomic> blkthndr: there-in lies the problem
[03:22] <ToddEDM2> lets hope this works.. wifey is home now
[03:22] <thor> Shadow147: A-C-F2 thru F6
[03:22] <user_> why some people suggest me to compress a folder with tar.gz (tar -czvf backup.tar.gz /var/www) insted using gzip /var/www so it return www.gz  ??
[03:22] <thor> ToddEDM2: keep the faith...everything is set...if it doesn't work it is a missing checkmark or some such...a very minor thing
[03:22] <user_> what is the benefit using .tar insted gz ?
[03:22] <ToddEDM2> didnt work ... i will try again later
[03:23] <Viper> I think .tar is just an archive, no compression.
[03:23] <thor> ToddEDM2: truly! I can't imagine why. Sorry
[03:23] <Viper> .tar.gz is compressed... I think that's how it works.
[03:23] <Chronosphear> is missing/broken gnome applets a common issue when dist-upgrading to gutsy?
[03:23] <thor> ToddEDM2: I am looking at mine as we work on this...it is set up just like mine
[03:23] <dude> .
[03:23] <erisco> I have a few .vcd's.. I know I looked up in the past of how to make these into iso's... I forget =\ anyone know?
[03:23] <user_> Viper,  so why not we just use .gz than .tar.gz  ?
[03:23] <blkthndr> so there is no way I can change its hidden status without using windows?
[03:23] <thor> ToddEDM2: and it works...sort of <smile>
[03:23] <ztomic> blkthndr: perhaps linux would be able to read AMIGA floppy disks as well? Nope. aint gonna happen.
[03:24] <thor> ToddEDM2: spnye@yahoo.com if you want to follow up on this and other stuff
[03:24] <danbhfive> user_ gz is just compression, for a single file, tar binds several files together
[03:24] <thor> ToddEDM2: tell wifey you worked REAL hard
[03:24] <erisco> I have a few .vcd's.. I know I looked up in the past of how to make these into iso's... I forget =\ anyone know?
[03:24] <danbhfive> user_ i think you use them both to create an archive
[03:24] <ztomic> slightly different problem but none-the-less... it aint gonna happen.
[03:24] <danbhfive> user_ but you should use the command I have you for /home
[03:24] <user_> danbhfive, so can not to gzip /var/www   is that what you mean?
[03:24] <user_> danbhfive, so i must tar it first
[03:25] <danbhfive> user_ i think thats the case
[03:25] <user_> danbhfive, then compress it, example use gz
[03:25] <qwerty121> hi all! which download manager is best for Ubuntu?
[03:25] <user_> danbhfive, ok thanks
[03:25] <danbhfive> user_ tar can gzip it for you, just add a z directive, i believe
[03:25] <Viper> qwerty: I use firefox's built-in one, or flashget...
[03:25] <qwerty121> Viper: does flashget support resume?
[03:26] <Viper> qwerty: yup, as long as the server does.
[03:26] <Chronosphear> is missing/broken gnome applets a common issue when dist-upgrading to gutsy?
[03:26] <ztomic> blkthndr: try googling it.
[03:26] <Viper> user_: tar -xzf /path/to/directory/to/compress
[03:26] <dude> why hasnt everyone just switched to *bsd yet?
[03:26] <dude> :P
[03:26] <WorkingOnWise> any ideas y update manager cant fetch any repositories. eveything comes back with a 404 error. I have a good network connection.
[03:26] <user_> yes.. thanks
[03:26] <Viper> tar -z tells the tar application to use a foreign compression app.
[03:26] <ztomic> dude: huh?
[03:26] <danbhfive> Chronosphear, i have broken applets for a similar upgrade
[03:27] <user_> Viper, x is for extract
[03:27] <qwerty121> Viper: thanks
[03:27] <Chronosphear> some work, most don't?
[03:27] <Viper> oh... same diff... lol   tar -cz then
[03:27] <user_> Viper, i think it should tar czvf
[03:27] <blkthndr> i've tried googling with no help for a couple days, as well as trying the support forums and irc of rockbox
[03:27] <user_> Viper,  yes.. or the simple one is cz
[03:27] <ztomic> dude: I can think of 12 reasons right now, and I could probably think of more.
[03:27] <Viper> I rarely find myself compressing files, decompressing is much more common for me...
[03:27] <danbhfive> Chronosphear did you use the update manager? or did you use the cli?
[03:28] <Chronosphear> update manager and then the cli because update manager only did half tho job
[03:28] <Chronosphear> the*
[03:28] <danbhfive> heh, that sucks
[03:28] <Viper> Has anyone experience with an add-on PCI SATA raid card in Ubuntu?>
[03:28] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, yeah, i rebooted thinking it was sorted and logged into a bash prompt with no window manager
[03:29] <danbhfive> in the past, cli doesn't fully work, i don't think
[03:29] <CGI074> yes Viper
[03:29] <ztomic> 20 reasons not to switch to BSD:
[03:29] <danbhfive> you have to re-run the upgrade commands several times
[03:29] <ztomic> 1) you like Windows or linux.
[03:29] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, i'll give that a go then
[03:29] <Viper> rwrandomnessb0x: Any luck, and if so, which make/model?
[03:29] <ztomic> 2) you play games that were made for Windows.
[03:30] <ztomic> 3) BSD is hard to install
[03:30] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, ah nah, it's convinced there's nothing to do now
[03:30] <r3wt1nth3b0x> Viper, it was a adaptec i think.
[03:30] <r3wt1nth3b0x> Works great.
[03:30] <danbhfive> Chronosphear i can give you some suggestions, to check it
[03:30] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, sure
[03:30] <danbhfive> sudo apt-get install -f
[03:30] <WorkingOnWise> are the repos down?
[03:30] <Powaqqatsi> does anyone know how to edit the hotkeys for compiz effects?
[03:30] <scguy318> ztomic: there's been some progress in porting Wine to FreeBSD me thinks
[03:31] <scguy318> ztomic: and really it depends on your OS taste
[03:31] <Viper> r3w: And you didn't have any issues with MDADM?
[03:31] <ztomic> 4) Wine is pain in the arse
[03:31] <danbhfive> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[03:31] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:31] <scguy318> ztomic: ditto for Wine on Linux :P
[03:31] <Chronosphear> hrmm
[03:31] <Chronosphear> that is probably it
[03:31] <Viper> @ztomic: wine is about the best linux has for playing win32 games/apps :(
[03:31] <Chronosphear> when i got the bash window and no wm i just installed metacity and gnome
[03:31] <danbhfive> carrot is not a spelling mistake
[03:32] <vee_> danbhfive ok both say under there sub menus: pri/log 500.1 GB FREE SPACE, im clcking FINISH partitioning and write changes to disk, now when I go to finish it says no /root found
[03:32] <r3wt1nth3b0x> No Viper...
[03:32] <Powaqqatsi> does anyone know the hotkey for scale?
[03:32] <Chronosphear> oh, meta package
[03:32] <ztomic> 5) You work with Windows at work and don't care about BSD.
[03:32] <danbhfive> vee_ did you set one of the partitions to /  ?
[03:32] <r3wt1nth3b0x> Viper why would you be using MDADM with hardware RAID?
[03:32] <danbhfive> no, its a directive actually, i think
[03:32] <alimoe> hi
[03:32] <cryptnix> bsd is hard to install?
[03:32] <cryptnix> uhh
[03:32] <alimoe> i think opera is great
[03:33] <erisco> I have a data disk that is in VCD format. How can I change this to an ISO format so I can burn it into a CD?
[03:33] <Chronosphear> The following packages have unmet dependencies.  firefox: Conflicts: libnss3 but 2:1.firefox2.0.0.10+1nobinonly-0ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Broken packages
[03:33] <Viper> None of the other sata cards' RAID has been detected by linux...
[03:33] <Chronosphear> can't see it being that tho
[03:33] <ztomic> 6) You have tried BSD in the past and you don't want to make that mistake again. But you tried OpenBSD just to be sure.
[03:33] <r3wt1nth3b0x> Viper brb
[03:33] <danbhfive> try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <Chronosphear> nothing to do
[03:34] <vee_> danbhfive shoudl one be logical and one be primary?
[03:34] <WorkingOnWise> are the gutsy repos down?
[03:34] <vladc> Ubuntu 7.10 causes my iMac G3 to restart very early in the boot process (3 seconds after yaboot). Passing "video=ofonly" kernel param didn't work, but the latest debian boots with no problem. Any ideas?
[03:34] <danbhfive> vee_ nah
[03:34] <danbhfive> vee_ thats only if you are breaking up the harddrives into several partitions
[03:34] <erisco> I have a data disk that is in VCD format. How can I change this to an ISO format so I can burn it into a CD?
[03:34] <vee_> danbhfive im clearing them again (thanx for baring with me)
[03:35] <alimoe> if its was for microsft i wuld have used NERO burner
[03:35] <ztomic> 7) you heard Unix is different than LInux and you wanted to try a REAL OS but you were not smart enough.
[03:35] <cry0k1n3t1c> Can anybody help me, I am trying to use this computer as a hub to connect my other computers to the internet
[03:35] <r00tintheb0x> okay Viper, what card are you using?
[03:35] <Viper> can K3B handle VCD's?
[03:35] <Impiety> so amarok works as root but doesn't work u sing my normal account
[03:35] <Impiety> what might cause this
[03:35] <danbhfive> Chronosphear how about sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:35] <r00tintheb0x> permissions Impiety
[03:35] <Impiety> hrm
[03:35] <vee_> danbhfive both say FREE SPACE under them, now what
[03:35] <Impiety> all of the libs look good
[03:35] <Impiety> permissionwise
[03:36] <Viper> r00t: I'm not sure off the top of my head, it was a cheapy pseude-raid controller...
[03:36] <danbhfive> vee_  wait, did you informat them?
[03:36] <Cyntek> Should Alsa automatically pickup Realtek onboard sound devices?
[03:36] <Chronosphear> you mean autoclean?
[03:36] <danbhfive> autoremove
[03:36] <Chronosphear> did nothing
[03:36] <vee_> danbhfive i clciked manual under the partitioning menu
[03:36] <ztomic> 8) you heard that windows applications can run on it but when you tried to get help, none was available so you ditched it.
[03:37] <danbhfive> ok, i would use synaptic then, and resolve those broken dependencies
[03:37] <ztomic> 9) never heard of it.
[03:37] <vee_> danbhfive then i hit <enter> with each drive selected
[03:37] <danbhfive> uninstall any package that doesnt have a valid source
[03:37] <r00tintheb0x> Viper i need the model to find the correct module to load.
[03:37] <ztomic> 10) it's great but how do I...?
[03:37] <danbhfive> vee_ are the drives formatted at this point?
[03:37] <vee_> danbhfive it then asked me whether or not to create new empty partition table
[03:38] <gaoxla_> mp3melayu
[03:38] <Chronosphear> how do i get a list of packages that don't have a valid source?
[03:38] <ztomic> 11) I work in Windows.
[03:38] <vee_> danbhfive i said yes to both
[03:38] <Baumer> If i get the error "Could not initialize graphics system.  Make sure that your video card and driver are compatible with direct draw"  Whwat should I be looking at?
[03:38] <vee_> danbhfive dioes that mena they are formatted?
[03:38] <kitche> ztomic: do you like spamming?
[03:38] <Viper> r00t: One sec, I'll get the model#
[03:38] <danbhfive> vee_ i dont know
[03:38] <danbhfive> vee_ its graphical isnt it?  if it says "free space" then its not formated
[03:38] <r00tintheb0x> ok Viper
[03:39] <ztomic> kitche: proving a point... 12) I like to prove my point.
[03:39] <danbhfive> Chronosphear look under Installed (local or obsolete)
[03:39] <danbhfive> get rid of those, unless its something that you personally put there
[03:39] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, ah, thanks
[03:39] <cry0k1n3t1c> is it even possible to connect two computers in ubuntu via ad hoc?
[03:39] <Viper> r00t: Syba SD-SATA-4P    PCI Sata Controller
[03:40] <WorkingOnWise> I do apt-get update and every repo is said to be not available, giving a 404 error, but I can ping the ip address that apt-get is trying to pull from. whats wrong?
[03:40] <burke> hey
[03:40] <Chronosphear> WorkingOnWise, 404 is file not found
[03:40] <danbhfive> vee_ you lost me at some point
[03:40] <mEck0> Hi! when I try to install kdm-kde4, I got this message: "E: kdm-kde4: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1", whats wrong and how do I solve it
[03:40] <Chronosphear> WorkingOnWise, try a different repo
[03:40] <me> danbhfive, no, I'm still here.
[03:40] <danbhfive> vee_ you should format the drive, AND set the mount point
[03:40] <vee_> danbhfive if I select a dirve then hit <enter> I see a menu for Create a new Partition, Auto part. the free space, or Show Cylinder/head/Sector Info
[03:40] <vee_> danbhfive does that sound familiar?
[03:41] <rooly> i'm having a bit of trouble with my sata drive. it decides to shut-off for no reason after i do high amounts of i/o (aka bittorrent) on the drive
[03:41] <danbhfive> is it all freespace right now?
[03:41] <vee_> yes
[03:41] <Viper> r00t, I don't think you'll have any luck finding out why I didn't have any luck with the card, posts on newegg say it doesn't like Ubuntu...
[03:41] <vee_> both drives
[03:41] <danbhfive> vee_ ok, yes, click create a new drive button, where ever that is
[03:41] <WorkingOnWise> Chronosphear: i get that error for every repo..ann 112 of them
[03:41] <danbhfive> vee_ then select ext3, and then look for a place to set the mount point
[03:42] <danbhfive> vee_ set the mount point to /
[03:42] <Chronosphear> WorkingOnWise, are you set to use a proxy?
[03:42] <ztomic> 13) I got my point across and now I'de like to list 20 reasons that DOS is better than Windows.
[03:42] <vee_> danbhfive ok but first i have to select logical or primary to get to that menu
[03:42] <vee_> danbhfive which one?
[03:42] <danbhfive> primary
[03:42] <HalflingRogue> I'm getting a CPU overload and big networking problems. Can anybody help?
[03:42] <HalflingRogue> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3865216#post3865216
[03:43] <ztomic> 14.. 15 16 17 18 19 20... ok
[03:43] <danbhfive> logical is if you are creating more than 4 partitions, and you are only making one
[03:43] <WorkingOnWise> Chronosphear: no. the only change I am aware of is last night I manually deleted the apt cache.
[03:43] <NH|Computer|Geek> wow 1000peeps
[03:44] <Donne_Fashion> ciao a tutti, io ho una scheda video Intel GMA X3100 è ho installato xgl invece di aiglx. Come installo aiglx?
[03:44] <Chronosphear> WorkingOnWise, might have helped to mention that before
[03:44] <danbhfive> !repos > WorkingOnWise maybe you need to check your repositories
[03:45] <danbhfive> vee_ did it work?
[03:45] <Ashfire908> what's the difference between the powerpc kernel and the cell kernel
[03:45] <vee_> danbhfive  ok I have this set for the first drive.... Use as= Ext3 journaling file sys. Mount point=  /home,  Mount options= defaults, Label= None, reserved Blocks= 5%, Typical usage= standard, bootable flag= off
[03:45] <scguy318> !it | Donne_Fashion
[03:45] <ubotu> Donne_Fashion: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:45] <vee_> danbhfive  hows that?
[03:46] <scguy318> Ashfire908: the latter lets you use the Cell processors of the PS3
[03:46] <Viper> well, I'm glad at least the bot speaks Italian...
[03:46] <Ashfire908> nice
[03:46] <danbhfive> vee_ the mount point should be just /
[03:46] <r00tintheb0x> Viper you get that number?
[03:46] <vee_> danbhfive  ok
[03:46] <Ashfire908> scguy318, nice. too bad i have no ps3 lol
[03:46] <WorkingOnWise> Chronosphear: sorry...it just came to mind that it could be related.
[03:46] <Assid> okay someone screwed up on this release
[03:47] <Viper> The card was mady by Syba, model SD-SATA-4P
[03:47] <Assid> my progress/loader bar that suppopsed to indicate ubuntu is loading is all messed up
[03:47] <scguy318> Assid: try sticking vga=xxx boot option, too tired to clarify
[03:47] <r00tintheb0x> ok hold Viper
[03:47] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, the applets are still broken. any other ideas?
[03:47] <Assid> and if i press CTRL ALT F1 - to get a console login.. i get fonts which look messed up
[03:47] <Assid> scguy318: that will fix it ?
[03:48]  * Viper feels sorry for navandres: ....dial.adsl.anteldata...
[03:48] <danbhfive> vee_ Chronospear did you successfully run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ ?
[03:49] <danbhfive> Chronospear did you successfully run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ ?
[03:49] <Assid>  scguy318: shouldnt it fix it on its own
[03:49] <Chronosphear> no, it keeps getting stock on libnss and firefox
[03:49] <scguy318> Assid: it might
[03:49] <Chronosphear> stuck*
[03:49] <scguy318> Assid: its a possible solution
[03:49] <scguy318> Assid: the xxx are values you have to fill in, google for them im too tired
[03:49] <mihai_> I just installed Chimera on kubuntu and don't know how to run it..
[03:49] <mihai_> does anyone know the command?
[03:49] <Chronosphear> hrmm that's weird
[03:50] <r00tintheb0x> Viper so this is just a SATA PCI card... not a hardware raid card?
[03:50] <vee_> danbhfive  what should I set the second drive to  logical or primary? then i can get to the menu to set the other options
[03:50] <vee_> or just leave it as free space
[03:50] <danbhfive> Chronospear well, I dont know about the applets, but you still dont yet have a full ubuntu install
[03:50] <r00tintheb0x> Viper http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=32247698
[03:50] <danbhfive> vee_ do it the same as the first, with a different mount point
[03:50] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, when i do apt-get autoremove it says there is nothing to uninstall BUT when i got to install libnss it says:
[03:50] <Chronosphear> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[03:50] <Chronosphear>   planner ekiga libgsf-gnome-1-114 libpth20 libgoffice-0-common abiword-gnome dia-libs gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly rhythmbox abiword-common
[03:50] <Chronosphear>   seahorse gnumeric-common gnome-themes-extras fast-user-switch-applet dia-gnome gnome-backgrounds libgoffice-0-4 libopal-2.2 libdvdread3
[03:50] <Chronosphear>   libsidplay1 dia-common gnumeric libgpgme11 inkscape libmpeg2-4 liba52-0.7.4
[03:51] <Chronosphear> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[03:51] <Chronosphear> The following packages will be REMOVED
[03:51] <Chronosphear> oops, sorry
[03:51] <Trevor_0017> plop
[03:51] <ztomic> 20 reasons DOS is better than Windows:
[03:51] <IamReck> I am running CompizConfig on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... I am using the Cube option for my wokspaces, how do I make more workspaces?
[03:51] <Trevor_0017> Where is cyntek
[03:51] <danbhfive> vee_ /media/<whatever you want>
[03:51] <Cyntek> Im here, bitch
[03:51] <Trevor_0017> lol, hey
[03:51] <danbhfive> Chronospear just do it, and run the install desktop command before you reboot
[03:51] <Trevor_0017> now, lets get my audio wokring
[03:52] <Viper> r00t: That card had pseudo-raid.... it said it didn't, but you get raid once you boot it up....
[03:52] <Spudster> Has anyone here tried using Openmosix with Gutsy?
[03:52] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, do what? manually uninstall?
[03:52] <danbhfive> install the libnss?
[03:52] <Chronosphear> autoremove does nothing
[03:52] <vee_> danbhfive  /can/this/be/like/this
[03:52] <danbhfive> did you remove all the local packages?
[03:52] <Trevor_0017> cyntek, can't do pm because not registered
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> viper that card does not have raid, its a SATA card...
[03:52] <Chronosphear> oh right ok
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> LINUX is giving you SOFTWARE raid.
[03:52] <vee_> danbhfive  or must i start off /home/something/else
[03:52] <grazz> did anybody try the last ati catalyst driver under ubuntu gutsy?
[03:53] <Viper> No, the card is trying to emulate raid!
[03:53] <grazz> sorry for my english.
[03:53] <danbhfive> vee_ it can, heh, but dont confuse yourself
[03:53] <Viper> It even has a RAID bios installed......
[03:53] <danbhfive> vee_ it should be under /media
[03:53] <r00tintheb0x> Viper on boot, does the card have any kind of menu you can go in?
[03:53] <Chronosphear> ooook
[03:53] <Viper> yup
[03:53] <IamReck> I am running CompizConfig on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... I am using the Cube option for my wokspaces, how do I make more workspaces?
[03:53] <r00tintheb0x> hmm
[03:53] <Chronosphear> it's uninstalling gnome
[03:53] <Pir8> Has anyone been able to get logitech orbit cam working in ubuntu?
[03:53] <ztomic> grazz: I tried the restricted driver on 9550 and it sucked.
[03:53] <vee_> danbhfive ok media/myStuff
[03:53] <Viper> The box doesn't say a bit of thing about raid, nor does the site, nor does anything else... but the damn thing had it... :(
[03:53] <Trevor_0017> Ok, I've got a question, that I need answered. My audio isn't working. I've tried just about everything, me and cyntek has, someone help, please and thanks.
[03:54] <Assid> scguy318: didnt work
[03:54] <r00tintheb0x> okay Viper, what kind of array are you trying to create?
[03:54] <IamReck> Trevor_0017,  double click on the volume item
[03:54] <vee_> danbhfive doesnt give me media in the list so i entered it manually
[03:54] <danbhfive> vee_ /home is good for reinstalling linux, but that can come when you are more familiar with this stuff
[03:54] <Trevor_0017> kk, it's loading
[03:54] <danbhfive> vee_ thats fine
[03:54] <Viper> raid-1
[03:54] <vee_> danbhfive kewl
[03:54] <Viper> Just looking for redundancy on 2 drives.
[03:54] <vee_> danbhfive thanx for the patience
[03:54] <IamReck> it shouldn't have to load... but w.e..... make sure non of those items are muted
[03:54] <r00tintheb0x> RAID1 then.
[03:55] <danbhfive> np
[03:55] <NemesisD> anyone know of the boot option for ubuntu to have it not check floppy drives? i'm setting up a persistent install of ubuntu on a USB drive and it works fine on this computer but i get a bunch of fd0 i/o errors on a computer without a floppy drive
[03:55] <IamReck> and turn the volume all the way up on all of them
[03:55] <r00tintheb0x> So you're building the RAID1 VIA teh BIOS on the card?
[03:55] <Assid> this sucks
[03:55] <grazz> ztomic, yeah, im having a lot of problems too
[03:55] <reportingsjr> How can I use more resolutions with my monitor? I tried changing the type but that ended up screwing it up. I've tried this monitor with a seperate computer and know I can get much larger resolutions, and the g card supports up to 2048 x 1536. Right now the highest is 1024x768 (ugh). Anyone have any clue what's wrong here?
[03:56] <Assid> i cant see the damn screen while it boots.. and it takes longer cause of that
[03:56] <danbhfive> Chronosphear, can I pm you?
[03:56] <ztomic> grazz: I have no problems with xorg driver and I get ogl fine in gutsy.
[03:56] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, sure
[03:56] <IamReck> Trevor_0017, did it work?
[03:56] <Viper> I tried, but Linux wouldn't detect the RAID, it just picked up the two HDD's as seperate devices, so I disabled RAID on the card and it still didn't work.
[03:56] <Assid> the old pre-release betas used to be better
[03:56] <JonathanPM> ok i need help I have an epson stylus cx4400 printer and my computer sees it but I cant get it to actually print
[03:56] <Trevor_0017> my volume controle box isn't even popping up.
[03:56] <IamReck> ....
[03:56] <grazz> ztomic, ugly compiz effects too?
[03:56] <r00tintheb0x> Viper what module is ubuntu loading for the SATA card?
[03:56] <IamReck> what was the last thing you did on your computer?
[03:57] <Trevor_0017> The thing is, I can here computer noises, as in beeps when there is a error, but my music ect. won't work.
[03:57] <Cyntek> IamReck: he says the Volume thing isn't even coming up.
[03:57] <ztomic> grazz: how need compiz?
[03:57] <grazz> Zombie, nah, i don't need it, but it's always nice to have everything working
[03:57] <grazz> i mean
[03:57] <grazz> ztomic
[03:57] <IamReck> I am running CompizConfig on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... I am using the Cube option for my wokspaces, how do I make more workspaces?
[03:57] <r00tintheb0x> Viper looks like that card just sucks on linux http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331190
[03:57] <danbhfive> Chronospear did you get my message?
[03:57] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, nope
[03:58] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, silly question but did you identify?
[03:58] <danbhfive> Chronospear lol, oh well, weird
[03:58] <danbhfive> no
[03:58] <Trevor_0017> you right click, click prefrences and type i nthe number of workspaces you need I think IamReck
[03:58] <Chronosphear> danbhfive, no priv msgs on freenode w/o registered nick
[03:58] <Trevor_0017> That's what I did anyways.
[03:58] <danbhfive> ah, i see
[03:58] <ztomic> grazz: ditch compiz for now. ATI sux on linux.
[03:58] <danbhfive> well, im too lazy to do that right now  : )
[03:59] <Viper> Yeah... that's what I'm seeing too.....
[03:59] <Assid> okay seriously
[03:59] <Viper> So note for future ref... don't by SYBA!
[03:59] <JonathanPM> Trevor the reason you hear beeps is because of your internal speaker probably, try going to system preferences, sound, and set your sound servers to usb sound device at least if your pc has on board sound and not a sound card thats what worked for me
[03:59] <Assid> is there any wayone here who can help me on this
[03:59] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I cna completely remove my apache install and start over?
[03:59] <tcpdumpgod> yup Viper
[03:59] <tcpdumpgod> brb
[03:59] <imperfect-> I can only get 1.3 to work
[03:59] <Assid> ztomic: i got an ati radeon mobility  - works fine here
[03:59] <grazz> ztomic, but it's weird, it was working until i reinstalled
[03:59] <imperfect-> apache2 is constantly complaining about missing files and stuff
[04:00] <JonathanPM> can anyone tryto help me get my printer working
[04:00] <grazz> with the current restricted driver i get a weird error
[04:00] <JonathanPM> im brand new to ubuntu and linux period for that matter
[04:00] <Viper> What type is your printer jon?
[04:00] <JonathanPM> epson stylus cx4400
[04:00] <JonathanPM> all in one
[04:00] <Viper> should be a piece of cake...
[04:00] <Viper> erm... can anyone remember which package that is... lol
[04:00] <JonathanPM> I hope so
[04:00] <ztomic> grazz: #ldconfig is the only suggestion i have.
[04:01] <vee_> danbhfive its giving a message as I proceed saying that i have not giving any room for swap - i should ignore this right?
[04:01] <grazz> ok, thanks ztomic
[04:01] <grazz> Assid, are you using the last driver from ati?
[04:01] <IamReck> Trevor I am trying to get the multi cube thing working.
[04:01] <danbhfive> vee_ can you ignore it?  i don't think you need swap, but I could be wrong
[04:01] <WorkingOnWise> Chronosphear: I switched from "Main Server" to "Server for United States" in "Software Sources", and it is fine now. Any idea how I might have caused that problem?
[04:01] <IamReck> you need to have a swap partition
[04:01] <mohkohn> Which kernel is going into hardy heron?
[04:01] <danbhfive> vee_ heh, in fact, i had a problem where swap wasnt working for me, and i was fine
[04:01] <vee_> you can either repartition or move ahead
[04:01] <danbhfive> i just couldn't hibernate
[04:02] <Assid> grazz: whatever came with the system
[04:02] <danbhfive> i say just move on
[04:02] <JonathanPM> i hook the printer up via the usb cable and the computer shows that it has been connected but I cant get it to print
[04:02] <Assid> grazz: old lappy
[04:02] <mEck0> since I got an error installing kdm-kde4, is it possible to use gdm to log onto kde4?
[04:02] <danbhfive> 4 gigs of ram is plenty
[04:02] <vee_> danbhfive i would think so
[04:02] <grazz> Assid, okok
[04:02] <vee_> danbhfive i guess this is for older systems
[04:03] <grazz> im having some GART crazy allocation errors
[04:03] <Viper> Jonathan: I installed libsane-extras through Synaptic Package Manager to get my scanner to work, I have the CX7800.
[04:03] <reportingsjr> How can I use more resolutions with my monitor? I tried changing the type but that ended up screwing it up. I've tried this monitor with a seperate computer and know I can get much larger resolutions, and the g card supports up to 2048 x 1536. Right now the highest is 1024x768 (ugh). Anyone have any clue what's wrong here?
[04:03] <Assid> grazz: still say someone messed up on this
[04:03] <JonathanPM> your video driver is probably wrong
[04:04] <JonathanPM> i had the same problem
[04:04] <reportingsjr> JonathanPM: Yeah, I think I had an issue with nvidia not putting out a driver for ubuntu.
[04:04] <Viper> reportingsjr: Yeah, it's just that you don't have the extra resolutions entered into your xorg.conf file.
[04:04] <ferret_0567_> I am having a problem where pressing the up arrow in an xterm or rxvt-unicode terminal does nothing
[04:04] <reportingsjr> Viper: where is that file located?
[04:05] <JonathanPM> my monitor runs at 1440x900 and I couldnt get any higher than 800x600 and i just kept trying differnet nvidia drivers untill i found one that let me run at 1440x900
[04:05] <Viper> ferret: If you don't have bash running, you won't.
[04:05] <tuxthepenguin533> ##linux
[04:05] <vee_> danbhfive its :::::::Pratitions formatting....creating ext 3 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI1 (sda)…
[04:05] <newbie> how can I fix totem movie player?. After updating, it does not reproduce any video, and the screen goes black and white. What can I do?
[04:05] <Viper> reportingsjr: /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think....
[04:05] <IamReck> use VLC
[04:05] <JonathanPM> nvidia makes good gpus but they dont support linux
[04:05] <Viper> !xorg.conf
[04:05] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:05] <IamReck> newbie, you should use vlc.
[04:05] <reportingsjr> oh yeah
[04:05] <reportingsjr> I already restarted that
[04:05] <alejandro> Hello, i downloaded nexuiz but i have no idea how to install it, help please.
[04:06] <imperfect-> anyone know how I can completely remove my apache and get it to restinall correctly?
[04:06] <imperfect-> this is pissing me off
[04:06] <newbie> IamReck, I unistalled vlc because it freezes as well
[04:06]  * Viper thinks VLC owns all media players!
[04:06] <Cyntek> On ubuntu what is the best way to get your sound working with Realtek onboard sound?
[04:06] <JonathanPM> oh also I have a question for you guys i have a second sata hdd in my computer but I cant find it on ubuntu
[04:07] <JonathanPM> why not
[04:07] <reportingsjr> Viper: I found this SubSection "Display"
[04:07] <reportingsjr> 		Modes		"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[04:07] <IamReck> JonathanPM, your HDD may not be partitioned correctly
[04:07] <reportingsjr> but 1028x1024 isn't shown..
[04:07] <Cyntek> aw shux.
[04:07] <Viper> **shrugs**
[04:07] <danbhfive> vee_ that sounds good
[04:07] <JonathanPM> can I use a webroot cd to format the drive and fix it that way?
[04:07] <Cyntek> accidently disconnected before i could see the reply's
[04:07] <ferret_0567_> Viper: I do
[04:08] <Cyntek> On ubuntu what is the best way to get your sound working with Realtek onboard sound?
[04:08] <reportingsjr> ok
[04:08] <IamReck> yea. if you have free space on your HDD ubuntu won't see it.
[04:08] <ferret_0567_> I tried "xev" and it seems pressing Ctrl returns NoSymbol
[04:08] <ferret_0567_> End returns Super_L
[04:08] <JonathanPM> onboard sound is ussually a usb sound device
[04:08] <JonathanPM> or so i have found
[04:08] <alejandro> Hello, i downloaded nexuiz but i have no idea how to install it, help please.
[04:09] <ferret_0567_> XkbRules, XkbModel, and XkbLayout seem correct
[04:09] <JonathanPM> cyntek trythis go system, preferences, sound, and then set all your sound servers to usb audio device
[04:09] <Cyntek> but shouldn't the latest release of ubunut detect it as default and automaticall be configured to start?
[04:09] <JonathanPM> see if that works
[04:09] <Viper> @ ferret, then I'm not sure, usually if you don't have bash running (don't have username@host:~$).... you won't have the handy 'up' key or the all-saving 'tab' autocomplete
[04:09] <Leo> he
[04:10] <vee_> danbhfive i checked my manual but it doesnt say whether i have UTC or not
[04:10] <Cyntek> JonathanPM: thanks but's it's only a Q,A
[04:10] <vee_> danbhfive im guessing i do - ASUS
[04:10] <JonathanPM> a what?\
[04:10] <Leo> hi
[04:10] <ferret_0567_> Viper: it's probably because I'm using the "evdev" X module for my Keyboard InputDevice section
[04:10] <khermans> can someone tell me why gcc is installed by default, but not libc-dev?
[04:10] <vee_> hi
[04:10] <danbhfive> vee_ heh, thats just the time, for the life of me, i have never know
[04:10] <vee_> leo
[04:10] <khermans> what is the reasoning behind that?
[04:11] <ferret_0567_> and furthermore, you can change your bash prompt through the PS1 environment variable
[04:11] <Ashfire_Server> ?
[04:11] <JonathanPM> i dont understand what that meant
[04:11] <vee_> me either - for adjuting the OS clock
[04:11] <Wolf23> somebody help me please!!?
[04:11] <Viper> khermans: erm... so you can compile your own programs, but don't necessarilly need the overhead provided by -dev libraries....
[04:11] <mihai_> i installed opera in Kubuntu using sudo aptitude install opera
[04:11] <Viper> what wolf, quite a few are listening...
[04:11] <mihai_> does anyone know how i run it
[04:12] <Baumer> How do install glx for the intel 945GM chipset?
[04:12] <vee_> danbhfive creating the first user account - i take it i can change this at any point
[04:12] <pawan> what is gobuntu
[04:12] <Assid> err.. someone help me fix this stupid loading effects
[04:12] <khermans> Viper, what C programs would you compile that dont include standard C libraries?
[04:12] <Assid> apparently without it .. its slowing down the actual loading
[04:12] <danbhfive> vee_ i dont know actually
[04:12] <Cyntek> it was just a question for I to know if there is some solution to fix my friends realtek problem on his ubuntu box without any sound.
[04:12] <danbhfive> vee_ probably not
[04:12] <Viper> hello_world?.....
[04:12] <Wolf23> helpers can anyone tell me how to open a .wmv file, thanx
[04:13] <Viper> nope... that one uses cout::....
[04:13] <IamReck> I am running CompizConfig on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon... I am using the Cube option for my wokspaces, how do I make more workspaces?
[04:13] <Viper> wolf: try using VLC.
[04:13] <vee_> danbhfive well you can create other one I imagine
[04:13] <ferret_0567_> pawan: it's Ubuntu but using all open source components, no propriatory drivers or artwork or other stuff included
[04:13] <vee_> danbhfive like later on
[04:13] <Viper> wolf: That's the only app I've had success with playing WMV's on *nix.
[04:13] <Cyntek> vlc is a good tool google it
[04:13] <danbhfive> vee_ yeah, but the first one is an important one, its the root user
[04:13] <IamReck> while creating more then on cube
[04:13] <Wolf23> viper, i have vlc but the movie looks like ugly the image
[04:13] <pawan> gobuntu-desktop
[04:13] <danbhfive> !codecs | Wolf23
[04:13] <ubotu> Wolf23: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:13] <Cyntek> mplay
[04:13] <Cyntek> use mplayer
[04:14] <ferret_0567_> I'm not sure exactly what the difference is
[04:14] <pawan> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[04:14] <Wolf23> Viper:  wht is nix?
[04:14] <IamReck> Does Ubuntu have a iTunes equivalent?
[04:14] <Viper> short-hand for linux
[04:14] <Viper> IamReck: KDE does...
[04:15] <Viper> IamReck: lookup amarok
[04:15] <Cyntek> amarock rocks
[04:15] <IamReck> Viper, can i bring it on to 7.10 gutsy gibbon? k thanks
[04:15] <Ashfire_Server> anyone in here getting a stupid /notice and then when you respond you get auto-responce to a stupid site?
[04:15] <Assid> IamReck: you mean gnome instead of kde
[04:15] <grazz> is anybody familiar to the error "[pcie] Failed to gather memory of size..." using fglrx?
[04:15] <Viper> IamReck: Sure, just install amarok through Synaptics and it'll get you everything you need.
[04:15] <Assid> they both are 7.10 gutsy gibbon
[04:15] <vee_> danbhfive it says "A user account will be created for you to use instead of the root account for non-admin. activities." then it says this info will be used for "origin of emails...,as well as any program which displays or uses the users real name"
[04:15] <Ashfire_Server> *with a link to a stupid site
[04:15] <ferret_0567_> no, nix is a shorthand for any kind of Unix or Unix-like OS (like Linux)
[04:15] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of an 'Ubuntu Hug Day'?
[04:16] <Wolf23> Viper:  what is nix friend, let me done with all my .wmv files please?
[04:16] <ferret_0567_> Ubuntu hug day?
[04:16] <ferret_0567_> wtf?
[04:16] <Cyntek> Purpose to be hug and be gay at the same time>
[04:16] <IamReck> awesome thanks
[04:16] <Viper> ferret Ok, if you want to be all "early 80's" ^_^
[04:16] <danbhfive> vee_ did you try to name it root or something?
[04:16] <Byro1> i've just installed a new hard drive on my machine (SATA) but ubuntus not detecting it, i already tried getting the bios to auto detect it, but still doesnt show
[04:17] <vee_> danbhfive nah i didnt
[04:17] <mntnpngn> anyone here ever tried burning double layer dvd+r ?
[04:17] <underdog44> can somebody help me with an stunnel4 problem
[04:17] <danbhfive> vee_ oh, its was just notifying you
[04:17] <Byro1> any one know why why that would happen?
[04:17] <vee_> danbhfive yea
[04:17] <ferret_0567_> Viper: my problem was exactly what I suspected, using the evdev versus the kbd module for my keyboard was a bad choice
[04:17] <Baumer> Anyone know of a guide to installing glx for intel 945GM chipset?
[04:17] <mntnpngn> will growisofs work with double layer dvd+r ?
[04:18] <vee_> danbhfive at the top of the screen it says" Set up users and passwords"
[04:18] <Viper> ferret: Hmm, did evdev not support the 'up' key?...
[04:18] <ferret_0567_> I hear evdev is great for other keyboards and mice with over 9 buttons
[04:18]  * Assid looks around for someone who can help him fix this usplash
[04:18] <Byro1> help?
[04:18] <alejandro> Hello, i downloaded nexuiz but i have no idea how to install it, help please.
[04:18] <ferret_0567_> Viper: no, it returns wrong keycodes
[04:18] <danbhfive> vee_ well, i think you are good to go for the most part
[04:18] <danbhfive> vee_ you should have a working install after you finish setting up
[04:18] <Byro1>  i've just installed a new hard drive on my machine (SATA) but ubuntus not detecting it, i already tried getting the bios to auto detect it, but still doesnt show
[04:18] <vee_> danbhfive ok now its installing the base system
[04:18] <Viper> ferret: Damnit, My keyboard's being a Dvorak!......
[04:18] <danbhfive> vee_ i have to go soon
[04:18] <Viper> lol
[04:19] <IamReck> lol
[04:19] <vee_> danbhfive its kewl
[04:19] <vee_> danbhfive thanx for all your help
[04:19] <underdog44> I'm trying to setup ssl encryption to an nntp server but the local port keeps binding to 0.0.0.0:9119 is that right, I thought it should be 127.0.0.1?
[04:19] <danbhfive> vee_ np, good luck
[04:19] <underdog44> but when I try to put that in manually via 127.0.0.1:9119 the log syas it failde to bind
[04:19] <vee_> danbhfive see you around
[04:20] <underdog44> then it barks about the pid being set correctly in the conf file
[04:20] <mohkohn> apologies if somebody answered before. i got distracted. What kernel is going into hardy heron?
[04:20] <linux88> how can i download .deb packages form apt-get to a file? instead of installing them
[04:21] <Rian-Davide> hey can anyone help me with finding an ndiswrapper driver for my broadcom wireless modem?
[04:21] <Byro1> can somebody please help?
[04:21] <scguy318> Rian-Davide: check your wireless modem manufacturer website perhaps
[04:21] <Rian-Davide> I did
[04:21] <Rian-Davide> nothing
[04:21] <Rian-Davide> nm let me check
[04:22] <Byro1> why doesnt ubuntu detect my new hard drive?
[04:22] <Viper> Byro: because it's not plugged in... ?   lol
[04:22] <codyman> i am running gutsy x64 off an external usb hd, if I go to /media there is a hd1 (my internal drive ntfs windows drive) in there and if I go in there, it tells the correct free space left on the drive, however, it shows no files in there... I have ntfs-3g installed along with the gui utility to use it and its setup... any ideas?
[04:22] <vee_> to access my LAMP server from the web do i need the DNS server installed???
[04:22] <Viper> Byro: Have you formatted it yet?
[04:23] <scguy318> mohkohn: dunno, you may get a better answer in #ubuntu+1, that channel is dedicated to Hardy talk
[04:23] <Baumer> So no one has the 945GM chipset?
[04:23] <vee_> i dont think i need domain name server - anyone know?
[04:23] <mohkohn> thanks scguy318
[04:23] <Byro1> no, u just bought it. but how am i going to format it if ubuntu doesnt even see it?
[04:23] <Byro1> i just bought it*
[04:23] <dns53> vee_: you need some kind of dns server somewhere, when you setup your dns record it needs to know a server somwhere that can resolve you
[04:24] <webpirate> hello all
[04:24] <webpirate> I need help with something..
[04:24] <Byro1> Viper, yes its pluged in
[04:24] <Byro1> my bios detected it
[04:24] <dns53> vee_ it could be on the same server as your web server, you could get someone to host it for you, it does not matter
[04:24] <Assid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/150930
[04:24] <Assid> that bug is a pita
[04:25] <Viper> Byro: Try Gnome Partition Editor.   That's a very useful utility.
[04:25] <webpirate> I formatted my laptop...and before the format Xine with xv would use abour 4 - 7% processor now it uses 35% any ideas?
[04:25] <underdog44> hmmm, nobody has any experience with stunnel
[04:25] <usser> vee_, i do it with dyndns.com
[04:25] <pg> Byro1: can you hear it spinning and does Windows detect it?
[04:25] <dns53> webpirate: you do not need to ask permission to ask a question
[04:25] <Assid> why cant they fix that
[04:25] <Viper> Bryo: That'll let you easilly see if linux can see it.
[04:25] <vee_> dns53 if I Sign up for Dynamic DNS forwarding with one of those free sites will there still be a need for it- or should i just install it just to be sure
[04:25] <vee_> usser thats what i was thinking
[04:25] <alejandro> Printing is too small, what can i do to fix it?
[04:25] <usser> webpirate, do u have restricted graphics drivers installed
[04:25] <IamReck> f
[04:25] <webpirate> yes...drivers are all installes correctly..
[04:26] <webpirate> video shows up perfect just uses lots of CPU power
[04:26] <Alejandr0>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY hadita
[04:26] <dns53> vee_: dynamic dns should be enough, you don't need one yourself as long as there is a server somwhere that knows your ip
[04:26] <Byro1> pg: seems to be spinning, but its hard to say (i've already got another 2 in there)
[04:26] <mohkohn> While I am on the subject what is the kernel in Gutsy. I am 1:45 away from torrenting it now.
[04:26] <usser> vee_, yea its pretty decent and linux has a client script for it, many broadband routers also have built in client for dyndns
[04:26] <benhd2008> hey does anyone know how to get a video edited from kino onto youtube.
[04:26] <vee_> dns53 thanx
[04:26] <Alejandr0> Printing is too small, what can i do to fix it?
[04:27] <webpirate> I was thinking that perhaps libdvdcss is using lots of power...does that happen?
[04:27] <mohkohn> +? [I need to learn to use punctuation and to enunciate my words!]
[04:27] <ferret_0567_> webpirate: it could happen
[04:27] <webpirate> Export the video from Kino in mpeg2 format
[04:27] <usser> webpirate, dvdcss is not supposed to affect your non-dvd playback
[04:27] <benhd2008> how do i convert a .dv file to .mpeg
[04:27] <dns53> libdvdcss can be written in 6 lines, it does not do a lot of processing
[04:27] <usser> benhd2008, kino is capable of exporting to mpeg2
[04:28] <usser> benhd2008, or u can use ffmpeg
[04:28] <webpirate> I will try a non encrypted dvd....brb
[04:28] <usser> benhd2008, or mencoder
[04:28] <benhd2008> well yeah
[04:28] <benhd2008> can that be uploaded to youtube
[04:28] <usser> benhd2008, or dozen of other tools
[04:28] <vee_> usser yea, my Netgear has it
[04:28] <pg> Byro1: try gnome partition manager.  Also try to detect it with Windows.  If Windows detects it but Ubuntu does not, it could be missing the driver.  Read the model number from the hard disk case and search for it on the Web.
[04:28] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of an 'Ubuntu Hug Day'?
[04:28] <pg> How can I copy an Ubuntu installation from one disk to a larger one?
[04:28] <usser> vee_, so its the easiest solution i suppose
[04:28] <Byro1> pg: ok thanks
[04:28] <scguy318> pg: partimage, dd, etc.
[04:29] <vee_> usser yea, why complicate things when you dont have to
[04:29] <usser> vee_, thats my motto :)
[04:29] <vee_> usser  ;)
[04:29] <webpirate> anyone have ubuntu on 1.6ghz sempron 64 and nvidia? whats your CPU during DVD playback?
[04:29] <Ashfire_Server> when i try to use traceroute all i get it some error about no space for the send buffer
[04:29] <underdog44> ok, does anybody know another irc room where they might be able to help me
[04:30] <buggeredfstab> anyone here manage to get Mono installed on Gutsy?
[04:30] <Viper> webpirate: For a sempron.. I wouldn't expect very much performance.... it may take nearly the whole processor just to play a DVD.
[04:30] <webpirate> Non encrpyted DVD uses Still 35% cpu
[04:31] <webpirate> Any xorg tips I can use to lower processor usage?
[04:31] <dns53> webpirate
[04:31] <ogrep> is there any emacs-cvs ubuntu repos?
[04:31] <webpirate> yup
[04:31] <pg> scguy318: I used dd from the original disk to a partition on another disk.  The new disk had another version of Ubuntu installed on another partition, and I can't make it boot copied installation.
[04:31] <Alejandr0> Printing is too small, what can i do to fix it?
[04:32] <dns53> webpirate: do you have the nvidia binary drivers installed, they have some accelerated video rendering extentions
[04:32] <Assid> err.. next thing.. how come gnome/ubuntu doesnt have the backgrounds and stuff (retrieving on the fly) like how kubuntu/kde has?
[04:32] <Byro1> pg: gparted keeps crashing and throws "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[04:32] <webpirate> Yes....Restricted drivers are installed...
[04:32] <Viper> webpirate: or perhaps a different CPU... maybe Athlon?...
[04:32] <webpirate> I have 1.6 ghz laptop with nvidia 420go
[04:32] <pg> Byro1: try parted, it's a command line tool.
[04:33] <webpirate> I used to get 4 - 7% on this laptop with xine...now after format its 35%
[04:33] <webpirate> video plays good..just lots of processor usage
[04:33] <ogrep> can I redefine this, ahem, f***ing Fn key to be Mod4?
[04:33] <Rian-Davide> hey does anyone know a good website to find broadcom drivers?
[04:34] <Assid> webpirate: you changed anything in between? like kubuntu-> ubuntu or the other way around?
[04:34] <webpirate> Rian-Davide...try different internet providers...sometimes that have the drivers
[04:34] <webpirate> No same basic setup
[04:34] <Rian-Davide> for linux?
[04:34] <Rian-Davide> like for the ndiswrapper?
[04:34] <pg> Rian-Davide: is it a wireless driver?
[04:34] <webpirate> would KDE use more Processer than gnome for DVD?
[04:34] <usser> webpirate, did u try to switch around video outputs
[04:34] <jake-the-dummy-o> where is /etc/init.d/iptables? what's the substitute?
[04:35] <usser> webpirate, to like openGL or x11
[04:35] <webpirate> yes.....xv gives best results
[04:35]  * ogrep would spank the *engineer* who designs these stupid laptop keyboard.
[04:35] <usser> webpirate, or xv
[04:35] <jake-the-dummy-o> any one any idea?
[04:35] <webpirate> openGl uses 100%
[04:35] <Viper> webpirate: the sempron is just a lower-end processor.  1.6GHz would be equilivant to a P4 600MHz in performance....
[04:35] <Agent_bob> jake-the-dummy-o google quicktables
[04:35] <spikeb> untrue.
[04:35] <spikeb> semprons measure up well against p4's.
[04:35] <mEck0> I think ipod nano (3rd gen) looks interesting, but wonder how it works in ubuntu? must I use itunes, does the players flashdisk shows up like a usb-dongle?
[04:36] <ogrep> Why do these people think they should relocate keys on a kb randomly?!
[04:36] <webpirate> WHAT...are you crazy....600mhz.....
[04:36] <Agent_bob> jake-the-dummy-o firestarter guarddog shorewall and friends.
[04:36] <soldats> mEck0, ipod dont need itunes to work
[04:36] <Viper> They measure up well against a celeron...because those are each company's lowbie CPU's.
[04:36] <webpirate> Semprons just have less ramon board..
[04:36] <Viper> They were made for budget machines.
[04:36] <mEck0> soldats, ok good
[04:36] <Rian-Davide> yes its a wireless driver
[04:36] <soldats> mEck0, you can use rythmbox, amarok or other to do ipod stuff
[04:37] <Rian-Davide> Im trying to use ndiswrapper
[04:37] <Viper> web: No, run a 1.6GHz sempron against a 1.2GHz Athlon XP, and the sempron will be blown away.
[04:37] <Agent_bob> jake-the-dummy-o every thing i've named are helper applications to help you setup iptables
[04:37] <webpirate> GKpod
[04:37] <mEck0> soldats, aha thats nice :)
[04:37] <soldats> mEck0, good luck
[04:37] <mattgyver83> Hi room, how can i configure ubuntu to recognize my pda when trying to hotsync via usb?
[04:37] <webpirate> Yes...but the guy was saying that a 600mhz intel was faster
[04:37] <Rian-Davide> its supposed to be a BCM4311 driver Im looking for I guess
[04:37] <Agent_bob> jake-the-dummy-o quicktables is a shell script  :)
[04:37] <pg> Rian-Davide: it's best to search the web for your specific card model.  Have you checked the UBuntu forums? There is a networking & wireless page that links to a wiki that shows which cards work.
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[04:38] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[04:38] <webpirate> I realize thst that the sempron 64 is a lower end CPU but its definnatly faster than intel 600mhz
[04:38] <Rian-Davide> thanks
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[04:38] <codyman> i am running gutsy x64 off an external usb hd, if I go to /media there is a hd1 (my internal drive ntfs windows drive) in there and if I go in there, it tells the correct free space left on the drive, however, it shows no files in there... I have ntfs-3g installed along with the gui utility to use it and its setup... any ideas?
[04:38] <Viper> Not after you start multitasking apps on the sempron.... it just chokes and dies!
[04:39] <pg> Byro1: can Windows recognize the drive?
[04:39] <Viper> And I know that P4 doesn't go that low, but if a good CPU was running at low-speed power saving mode...
[04:39] <webpirate> You really have to try sempron....it's not bad at all...
[04:39] <Viper> I have tried them....
[04:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic
[04:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:40] <webpirate> I have been using it for 3 years now and it can run anything I throw at it...including Americas Army with full graphics..
[04:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Enough about processors.. there are plenty of comparisons online
[04:40] <zloog> Hi, what is the ubuntu way to upgrade the c/c++ compiler?
[04:41] <webpirate> well I was asking about playing a dvd and someone started smashing my 1.6ghz sempron 64 saying that it can't play dvd when my amd 333mhz could play them
[04:41] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate... enough.. drop it
[04:41] <webpirate> are you IRC police? sheesh calm down...
[04:41] <danikarX> Hey I can get my mic to work, but when I Test it in my sound settings it gives me this error. "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'"  Is that bad, or doesn't matter?
[04:42] <johnstar> hi customizing a ubuntu cd and I cant remember where the config file is for theme/icons anyone know?
[04:42] <Viper> Jack is right... me and you are verring this channel off topic... ^_^
[04:42] <webpirate> I am just trying to get to the bottom of this CPU usage issue
[04:42] <Viper> webpirate: If you want, we can argue in PM.
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: sure.. azs soon as you drop it or leave for offtopic
[04:42] <webpirate> I know that this computer can do better because it did as of yesterday
[04:43] <simplechat> zloog: sudo apt-get update?
[04:43] <Assid> webpirate: i dont know if its me.. i was just checking my lappy as well, i think kubuntu used to eat less resources
[04:43] <webpirate> so I am hoping that someone else noticed the same thing
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> kde eats more of my system than gnome
[04:43] <webpirate> I might log into gome and see it it uses less to play dvd...
[04:43] <Assid> Jack_Sparrow odd
[04:44] <webpirate> I wil come back and let you know
[04:45] <Assid> Jack_Sparrow: kde has alot of aplications that just make user experience easy too. like for example the simplest of them all.. when you change the background
[04:45] <Runningflame570> How do I add another server with xchat?
[04:45] <Assid> kde has a nice interface that lets you get the backgrounds from online
[04:46] <usser> Assid, yea i agree that is a nice feature
[04:46] <Viper> KDE is much more user-friendly... but he's right, you pay a price for that 'prettiness'
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Assid: this isnt the place for discussion...on gnome or kde... both have good and bad features
[04:46] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me get my quick cam working with ubuntu/skype?
[04:46] <Miranda7856> Opensource kills gobs!
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> gnome vs jde
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[04:46] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:47] <Miranda7856> Ubuntu - это для бедных...
[04:47] <Miranda7856> Для негров...
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ru
[04:47] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:47] <miyako> hello
[04:47] <hajiki> hey im having some problems with the USplash Screen... a while ago i installed some kind of manager for gnome, but i didnt like so I got rid of it. The problem is that the default Splash doesnt start anymore... please help me!!!!
[04:47] <Assid> Jack_Sparrow the only thing so far i noticed is that ubuntu/gnome interfaces pretty well with compiz
[04:48] <Miranda7856> Ого!
[04:48] <mikeo> anyone ever expirement with booting from a flash drive and getting insane battery life on a laptop?
[04:48] <Assid> hajiki: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/150930
[04:48] <mikeo> and disabling the hd and cdrom in bios
[04:48] <Assid> mikeo: good or bad lifwe
[04:48] <mikeo> insanely good
[04:48] <mikeo> like double
[04:48] <pianoboy3333> Jack_Sparrow: yea I've tried all that good stuff I'm wondering if someone here can help me, not point me to the wiki, I can do that myself
[04:49] <Assid> mikeo: sweet.. howd you manage that
[04:49] <Ashfire_Server> is anyone else in here getting a notice for a person who responds to anything you say with website?
[04:49] <mikeo> i didn't, but i read about it somewhere
[04:49] <Viper> There was one driver I seen that was working on webcams... I can't remember the name of it now thoug...
[04:49] <mikeo> and have heard about it from other people
[04:49] <Danikar_X> If my mic is working on sound recorder, but I am still getting error when I test my Mic in the sound settings is that bad?
[04:49] <Ashfire_Server> *with a website url?
[04:49] <Jack_Sparrow> pianoboy3333: If you did everything in the wiki help and it dosent work have you checked the supported hardware page
[04:49] <Assid> Jack_Sparrow: i have a constant cpu usage and im not doing anythign :(
[04:49] <usser> Miranda7856, are u a retard or what?
[04:49] <pianoboy3333> Jack_Sparrow: yea, it seems pretty supported
[04:49] <hajiki> ???
[04:51] <jake-the-dummy-o> hi guys.my http server machine refuse all connection including ssh,ftp,telnet,http.but you can still ping it. why?any idea?
[04:52] <Ashfire_Server> jake-the-dummy-o: maybe all the services are set not to respond from your ip?
[04:52] <Mr_Jones> In some night, an old nun was happy in a bus stop waiting her bus to go back home after working. And suddenly, a drunkman, very high, sees her and kicks her and she falls, and he keeps beating her with hands and kicks. After some minutes, the drunkman notices that there was no reaction from the old nun, and the drunkman says: - “I thought you were stronger, BATMAN!”.
[04:52] <hajiki> hey Assid by Usplash Screen do you i mean the thing a the beginning of a session right?
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Mr_Jones: Please dont do that..
[04:52] <Ashfire_Server> wtc
[04:53] <MagySimpsom> :P
[04:53] <MagySimpsom> In some night, an old nun was happy in a bus stop waiting her bus to go back home after working. And suddenly, a drunkman, very high, sees her and kicks her and she falls, and he keeps beating her with hands and kicks. After some minutes, the drunkman notices that there was no reaction from the old nun, and the drunkman says: - “I thought you were stronger, BATMAN!”.
[04:53] <Assid> hajiki yes.. i just had it 1 boot ago
[04:53] <zloog> Is it safe to try to upgrade my GCC? I think im running into a compiler bug and I want to get the latest  version....
[04:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops | MagySimpsom
[04:53] <ubotu> MagySimpsom: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[04:53] <zloog> !ops
[04:54] <hajiki> Assid: how can that page help me?
[04:54] <Assid> read it
[04:54] <Assid> its got the fix in there
[04:54] <hajiki> mm ok
[04:54] <hajiki> thanks
[04:55] <usser> zloog, compiler bugs dont exist
[04:55] <usser> zloog, :) its a human error
[04:55] <usser> zloog, well compiler bugs are rare
[04:55] <miyako> compiler bugs do exist
[04:56] <linux_user400354> hi ferret_0667 ferret_0667, why do you have so many names?
[04:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essentials
[04:56] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[04:57] <soldats> is there a way i can somehow turn off the power management for my monitor, it turns black when idle after about 10 minutes
[04:58] <kelsin> soldats: System -> Prefs -> Power Managemnet
[04:58] <calton> .net
[04:59] <Dev_noob> Is there a defragging program for Ubuntu, or is that operation irrelevant?
[04:59] <soldats> kelsin, seems i dont have that option
[04:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Dev_noob: not needed.
[04:59] <Dev_noob> danke
[05:00] <webpirate> I am back all.....Gnome actually is useing more CPU to play DVD
[05:00] <soldats> kelsin, oh well im in xubuntu and i dont have that option i guess i will just deal with it
[05:00] <webpirate> I also uninstalled KDM and still same results...
[05:00] <soldats> its the only thing i could never get to stop
[05:00] <webpirate> 35% - 50% CPU to play DVD
[05:00] <webpirate> yesterday it was 5 -7%
[05:00] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: what video card.. or is it onboard video
[05:01] <webpirate> Nvidia 420 go laptop
[05:01] <kelsin> soldats: you can still install gnome-power-manager and run it to set some power settings. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344311
[05:01] <kelsin> soldats: the OP in that thread is asking about something different, but still talks about installing gnome power manager in xubuntu
[05:01] <webpirate> I think I need to add something to my xorg.conf
[05:01] <webpirate> any ideas
[05:01] <webpirate> opengl and 3d work fine
[05:02] <soldats> kelsin, hmm i never thought of that i feel dumb now thanks i figured it should have come on install
[05:02] <qcode> Just upgrade my laptop to 2GB of RAM...love it
[05:02] <qcode> upgraded
[05:03] <kelsin> soldats: since it's not a xfce app, it makes sense it's not installed by default in xubuntu
[05:03] <BLT> Here's something that I find interesting - using the Gutsy live CD I get a higher resolution screen than the one I get after installing to the HD
[05:03] <webpirate> does xfce use lots of CPu?
[05:03] <webpirate> I might try it
[05:03] <soldats> kelsin,  ahh i see now, thats wierd
[05:03] <soldats> thanks
[05:03] <soldats> for the link
[05:03] <qcode> webpirate: Much less then GNOME for sure
[05:04] <miyako> BLT: yeah, I ran into that, Gutsy seems to be really bad with X
[05:04] <kelsin> soldats: but yeah, it doesn't stop you from installing any gnome app you want, for bits and pieces that xfce doesn't provide
[05:04] <corruptionoflulz> webpirate: i believe xfce is good because it's so easy on the resources.
[05:04] <webpirate> I should try it for DVD playback
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> BLT: from cli sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  add your refersh rates for your specific monitor
[05:04] <corruptionoflulz> webpirate: i have problems with any video playback fullscreen when i have compiz running.
[05:04] <Jack_Sparrow> BLT: Someting about nvidia detection....
[05:04] <pianoboy3333> can anyone help me get my logitech quickcam working, I've tried a lot of things but none seem to be working
[05:04] <webpirate> I mean 35% is not bad for DVD playback but I know that it can do better
[05:04] <BLT> miyako - so I tried to copy the xorg.conf that the live CD created and save it to the HD - but it didn't work after the reboot
[05:05] <webpirate> will xine run on xfce?
[05:05] <Learning-Ubuntu> How do I delete the database vnstat created for ppp0?
[05:05] <Jack_Sparrow> BLT: you can always use the command I gave to get back basic functionality
[05:05] <miyako> did anyone else end up just disabling the failsafe X?
[05:06] <corruptionoflulz> webpirate: you should be able to just use aptitude(i think) and dl xfce desktop and try it out
[05:06] <webpirate> Its installing right now..
[05:06] <BLT> miyako - Jack_Sparrow - I get 800x600 OK - but then you have to scroll for most WWW pages
[05:06] <soldats> kelsin, ok cool than i should be set
[05:06] <webpirate> Just wondering if xine will run
[05:06] <corruptionoflulz> from my understanding, everything should run.
[05:06] <corruptionoflulz> just about..
[05:06] <hype_> Hi, any one running player 1rc1 can paste his cat /etc/mplayer/input.conf ?
[05:06] <hype_> Mplayer*
[05:06] <newbie> hello, I need help, I am desperate. I cannot play any video on totem or firefox. Both freeze when I try to play any video. I already reinstalled totem and the gstreamer codecs, but still the same. The screen goes grayscale and it stops responding. What can I do? has anybody here experienced this problem before?
[05:06] <webpirate> can wrong refresh rates affect DVD playback CPU usage?
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> BLT: vesa mode will go to 1024x   but you need to set your monitor rate.  most people only mess with the video driver config.
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[05:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:07] <webpirate> newbie: try automatix to install codecs it always works for me....4 different computer
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: bad bad idea
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[05:07] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[05:07] <webpirate> www.getautomatix.com
[05:07] <BLT> Jack and ubotu and miyako - thanks for the tips... I will try them
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: Please do NOT advise people to use that garbage
[05:08] <webpirate> well I have always had good luck....not promising anything
[05:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[05:08] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[05:08] <webpirate> ok....so than any disscussion is pointless here....because nothing it for sure
[05:09] <pianoboy3333> can anyone help me get my logitech quickcam working with skype, I've tried a lot of things but none seem to be working
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude\
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about attitude\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:09] <webpirate> pianoboy>> I would try to help but it might not work for you so I should not say anything
[05:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[05:09] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:10] <newbie> webpirate, how can I install automatix?
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> newbie: bad idea
 Um... I think I need Guru's help. For some reason the livecd and my installed version (Ubuntu 7.10) cannot list my internal wireless card inside my laptop. lshw or psci will not show anything.Please help
[05:10] <jedusor> re
[05:10] <Learning-Ubuntu> Anyone here who uses vnstat to log their internet usage? I would like to delte the log I created on ppp0 since IM using eth0 now
[05:10] <corruptionoflulz> webpirate: it's pretty well known that many users have serious problems with automatix, and since it's not officially endorsed, and actually recommended that you NOT use it, i can see why it shouldn't be suggested in the #ubuntu channel.
[05:10] <webpirate> www.getautomatix.com
[05:10] <webpirate> I have 4 different computer that it works well on all of them
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> newbie: We wil not be able to help once you use that script.. it does bad things and you should read the link provided telling what it does to your install
[05:10] <Learning-Ubuntu> newbie, Its known to go bad and when it does it really goes bad... As in break things you dont want breaking...
[05:10] <webpirate> 1 laptop and 3 desktops..
[05:12] <chris__> hello all
[05:12] <soldats> i used it many moons ago but it didnt do everything i wanted but anything you need to fix you do without the use of a NOT so good application
[05:12] <Tone> how do i bring up the analog clock page from ubuntu?
[05:12] <webpirate> newbie>> they are right in saying that it might not work for you....but I am just saying that I have had good luck with it....but it does not mean that you will
[05:12] <webpirate> does Sync to Vblank cause high CPU usage?
[05:12] <brandon_> hey can any1 help me? i get no sound on my system what so ever
[05:13] <soldats> brandon_, do you have the necessary codecs for audio
[05:13] <CyberMad> i got problem with installing ubuntu-desktop 7.10 (gutsy), actually i already install this gutsy on many computers, but i got problem with one computer... during installation i got this error: [!!] Load installer components from CD, Failed to load installer component. Loading libdebconfclient0-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting.  and there is option to go back or continue. What problem is this ?
[05:13] <webpirate> I guess I got kicked?
[05:13] <brandon_> idk
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[05:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:13] <ArthurArchnix> So... with the latest version of emacs-snapshot available in ubuntu repos through synaptec, fonts still suck big time. Oh sure, menu and title fonts look ok, but the actual fonts of the window itself are not anti-aliased... was the snapshot version not built with xft?
[05:13] <CyberMad> is this related problem with the CD ? scratch ?
[05:13] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: please do not promote that script in here.
[05:14] <CyberMad> i see my cd there is not much scratch
[05:14] <dsnyders> Hi all.  How can I rename  a bunch of numbered files by prefixing the number on some of them with a zero.  eg file_1 -> file_01
[05:14] <webpirate> ok I won't promote it...sorry..
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: It causes so many people so many problems..
[05:14] <corruptionoflulz> brandon_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 (comprehensive sound solutions guide)
[05:15] <chris__> can any one help me i am having trouble with a program called vent
[05:15] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: no it's not
[05:15] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: why I pointed you to that blog
[05:15] <adamonline45> Does anyone here use a Macbook?  I've gone through countless tutorials on getting my wifi working using ndiswrapper on 7.10, but with no luck...  I'd really appreciate if anyone could just tell me how to make it work 8)
[05:15] <brandon_> ive tryed that
[05:15] <soldats> corruptionoflulz, i liek your name but i think you should change it to lulzisacorruptionoflol
[05:15] <soldats> heh
[05:15] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: emacs does not have xft support until version 23 which is still dev and available on the emacs cvs which is what that guy packaged. Google "Ubuntu Pretty Emacs" to find it again
[05:16] <dsnyders> chris__,  What sort of problem are you having?  What is vent supposed to do?
[05:16] <corruptionoflulz> soldats: but then it's boring. since lol is a corruption of lulz
[05:16] <brandon_> ive tried a bunch of guides to get my sound working im useing Creative SB augidy LS card
[05:16] <soldats> corruptionoflulz, hah i knew it all along
[05:16] <webpirate> it just seems funny to me that Linux.com can promote the script but we can't in here
[05:16] <webpirate> :(
[05:17] <soldats> webpirate, automatix may work for other distros but it does not work well in ubunty
[05:17] <chris__> it is a program for talking to outher people on line im trying to use it fo my games but there is not a linux version yet so im running it through wine but its telling me i have the wrong codex
[05:17] <Jack_Sparrow> webpirate: They dont have to deal with helping people when it trashes their systems
[05:17] <Assid> adamonline45: you using a macbook with ubuntu ?
[05:17] <webpirate> Brandon>> try to run gnome-volume-control and make sure that everything it listed in there...if not you can add them from that program
[05:17] <brandon_> the driver i needed to get was called ca0106 i think or sumthing to that matter
[05:17] <adamonline45> Assid: I sure am :)  Are you?
[05:18] <Assid> adamonline45: nah.. would like a mac as is tho :P
[05:18] <brandon_> Webprivate: i did
[05:18] <adamonline45> assid ahh, cool... Yeah they're secksy 8)
[05:18] <Viper> awww :( I guess he no like the matrix....
[05:18] <ArthurArchnix> kelsin Yeah. Tried that and it made no diff. Never saw any tesitomonials on his site for gutsy, so maybe they're broken? Dunno.
[05:19] <webpirate> I think that the program is for ubuntu only
[05:19] <soldats> hmm i didnt know that i just know is isnt very good
[05:19] <dsnyders> chris__, I see some web pages suggesting teamspeak as an alternative to vent.  Apparently there is a linux version of it.
[05:19] <webpirate> brandon>> are the controls for AC97 and wave in there?
[05:19] <ridge-meister> i'm looking for a website that has a lot of programming exercises
[05:19] <brandon_> webprivate: no
[05:19] <webpirate> you might have to add them
[05:20] <brandon_> how?
[05:20] <soldats> ridge-meister, like what kind of program excercises
[05:20] <ArthurArchnix> kelsin: I remove --purged my emacs. Added his repo. Added his key. Installed. And wammo, same ugly fonts. No errors, obviously used his package because I got the PPA warnings he mentioned...
[05:20] <qcode> FireFox just crashed on me... shit
[05:20] <brandon_> im new to linux as you can probally tell web
[05:20] <webpirate> brandon>> go to Edit then prefferences
[05:20] <chris__> prolbem there is everybody is alredy on vent
[05:20] <brandon_> kk
[05:20] <corruptionoflulz> qcode: it probably wont be the first time.
[05:21] <webpirate> brandon>> make sure that PCM and ac97 and wave are selected
[05:21] <corruptionoflulz> qcode: firefox is way worse on linux than on windows for me.
[05:21] <ridge-meister> soldats: i'm learning Python, should i spend a lot of time becoming really intimate with all the workings of Python, or would it be better to work on projects?
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> chris__: ask in #winehq for help with vent under wine
[05:21] <superm1> Hi folks.  can someone tell me how to mark a file on a fat32 filesystem hidden?
[05:21] <Assid> adamonline45 yeah but outta my budget
[05:21] <brandon_> webprivate: those options arent there
[05:21] <superm1> so that it shows up as "hidden" on a windows machine
[05:21] <mofo> yo....  in need of gutsy x config help here...
[05:21] <adamonline45> Assid: Mine too... I'm still paying for it 8)  hehheh... And don't even have OSX on it anymore...
[05:21] <chris__> ok how im sorry im still new to linux
[05:22] <ridge-meister> soldats: just not sure how to answer your question
[05:22] <webpirate> brandon>> thats as far as I can take you.....I don't know why they would not be there
[05:22] <kex> hello, can anybody help me with rhythmbox? :s
[05:22] <Jack_Sparrow> qcode: I have not had firefox crash.. how did you install flash and java...?
[05:22] <webpirate> brandon>> wait
[05:22] <corruptionoflulz> !ask | kex
[05:22] <ubotu> kex: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:22] <brandon_> webprivate: kk thx for the help tho :)
[05:22] <BLT> help
[05:22] <webpirate> brandon>> go to file...and see if you have more than one device
[05:22] <mofo> running on a dell D620 w/ an external monitor..  had been running 7.04 for quite a while with no problems
[05:22] <soldats> ridge-meister, python is very powerful and will do you good depending on what you want to do in the long run but if you want to get serious with programming id suggest keep with python until you are very comfortable and switch to c++ or c or c#
[05:22] <mofo> just upgraded to 7.10
[05:22] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: did you set the font and load in .Xresources like the page says
[05:22] <dsnyders> Chris__, Is vent short for ventrilo?
[05:23] <Assid> adamonline45 then whyd you go for it.. might as well pickup a cheap dell and do what you need
[05:23] <brandon_> webprivate: i have th alsa misers and oss
[05:23] <mofo> and now I'm totally hosed.   it won't just accept my xorg.conf
[05:23] <chris__> yes sorry
[05:23] <corruptionoflulz> kex: what is your problem with rythmbox?
[05:23] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: or tried starting emacs with "emacs -fn 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono'" or something?
[05:23] <soldats> qcode, use opera instead it is alot better
[05:23] <webpirate> Try to select the Alsa one
[05:23] <mofo> the stupid autoconfiguration panel keeps "correcting me" and resetting things
[05:23] <slowthy> I am having a lot of trouble getting the drivers for my Intel Media Accelerator 950 Graphics card in 7.10.  I am new to linux, and any help would be great
[05:23] <mofo> totally doesn't like my external monitor
[05:23] <mofo> I'm about ready to throw my laptop out the window
[05:23] <brandon_> its already set on alsa
[05:23] <webpirate> brandon>> and see if pcm is in there
[05:23] <webpirate> brandon>> try the other one
[05:23] <kex> corruptionoflulz, rythmbox is not sending my tracks to last.fm any longer
[05:23] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: also make sure that emacs that is running is version 23, it's on the start screen
[05:23] <DivideZer> what i need to write java application under ubuntu ?
[05:23] <chris__> dsnyders, yes sorry
[05:23] <mofo> I guess my question is - should I just downgrade to 7.04 again?  I'm SOOOO wishing I hadn't upgraded
[05:24] <Flannel> slowthy: You don't need to get any drivers, they're already there
[05:24] <mofo> never been so frustrated with ubuntu as I am right now
[05:24] <soldats> kex, i didnt think rythmbox did that you should use amarok instead
[05:24] <ridge-meister> soldats: do you recommend that i stay with Python for the time being, because of its readability?
[05:24] <dsnyders> Chris__, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Ventrilo_Via_Wine has some instructions that may be helpful
[05:24] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: if you do have two emacs installed you can select which one to use with sudo update-alternatives --config emacs
[05:24] <corruptionoflulz> kex: sorry, i've never messed around with last.fm much.. but i will take this as a chance to plug exaile as a music player
[05:24] <chris__> ok ty
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mofo: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:24] <kex> soldats, but i am on gnome, would that make stuff a bit weird? :s
[05:24] <brandon_> webprivate: stii no sound
[05:24] <webpirate> brandon>> also make sure that Digital Out id not selected unless you are using digital
[05:25] <webpirate> id - is
[05:25] <soldats> kex, no i use it frequently
[05:25] <qcode> interfacelift.com has nice wallpapers... cool
[05:25] <slowthy> Flannel:  No, there are drivers for 945 and 965, but no 950.
[05:25] <kex> soldats, ok ill swicth to amaroK :)
[05:25] <brandon_> webprivate: where is that option?
[05:25] <adamonline45> Assid: I was heavy into web developing, and wanted safari in its native environment...  And liked how it integrated so well in my linux network...  And just needed something different, if I was gonna get anyhting...  And then I wanted to get the faster one, and then more ram, and... yeah 8)  It's ok, it paid for itself, but I didn't use that money for it... sigh...
[05:25] <webpirate> brandon>> go to Alsa device...then to options and check for digital out check mark
[05:25] <mofo> no I have not, I can try that - but why won't it just accept my xorg.conf that worked fine in 7.04?  why does it insist on ignoring it?
[05:25] <corruptionoflulz> kex: you can run pretty much every kde app in gnome, although, amarok was a bit buggy for me
[05:25] <webpirate> brandon>> options tab
[05:25] <DivideZer> what i need to write java application under ubuntu ?
[05:25] <corruptionoflulz> kex: and used more resources than i cared for, so now i use exaile.
[05:25] <brandon_> i dont have an options tab
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mofo: I dont think they are interchangeable
[05:26] <adamonline45> DivideZer: I hear you can get eclipse for linux
[05:26] <excoder> Hello, can anyone tell me how to enter ascii characters in ubuntu? like the ALT+0174 in windows returns the (R) sign. It's not letting me here in ubuntu.
[05:26] <kex> corruptionflulz, ok, ill try amarok or exaile, but does exaile have support for last.fm?
[05:26] <webpirate> brandon>> how about a switches tab
[05:26] <DivideZer> adamonline45 , and savve as java run time application the code ?
[05:26] <brandon_> ok i got it now
[05:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Adam_, yes you can adamonline45 its in the repos
[05:27] <soldats> ridge-meister, python is very readable and looks very nice so i would suggest staying with it till you have a full grasp on it. then when you start learning other languages the syntax will be very different but if you have a very very good grasp on it you will pick it up quickly. learning to program takes a lot of motivation so if you have what it takes then you will improve rapidly
[05:27] <brandon_> had to enable some of the thing in prefs
[05:27] <erat123> the bash people told me to ask you guys a question, it has to do w/ repositories, is anyone interested in helping me out?
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> oops I mean adamonline45
[05:27] <mofo> really?  but why would they not be?  same hardware, same setup
[05:27] <ridge-meister> soldats i'm not sure what you mean by "very comfortable".  i have a very basic grasp of object oriented principles, database, filewriting
[05:27] <soldats> !ask | erat123
[05:27] <webpirate> brandon>>ok....so your sound is working now?
[05:27] <ubotu> erat123: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:27] <adamonline45> DivideZer: I'm not sure, I'm in the developer circle so I heard about it; but I'm just a C++ guy so far...
[05:27] <brandon_> no
[05:27] <webpirate> hmm..
[05:27] <ridge-meister> soldats: my problem isn't the motivation, but knowing what to work on next.
[05:27] <corruptionoflulz> kex: i believe exaile has last.fm support..
[05:27] <DivideZer> aa ok
[05:27] <brandon_> ok i got it working now
[05:28] <dsnyders> excoder, I think you can do \174 in certain places
[05:28] <erat123> ubotu: lol, thanks.  ubuntu allows you to find the best server in the software sources, is there a way to do this same thing in bash on my ubuntu server?
[05:28] <brandon_> i had to turn off an options in stiwches
[05:28] <webpirate> brandon>> sweet...what was it
[05:28] <kex> corruptionoflulz soldats, ok thanks ^^
[05:28] <soldats> ridge-meister, do you mean what kind of program you write
[05:28] <brandon_> thx web
[05:28] <corruptionoflulz> erat123:  protip: ubotu is a bot.
[05:28] <webpirate> brandon>> was it digital option?
[05:28] <brandon_> i own you a ton man
[05:28] <brandon_> yea
[05:28] <webpirate> brandon>> cool...glad I would help
[05:28] <erat123> corruptionoflulz: yeah, just figured out that one :-)
[05:28] <brandon_> my ears hurt tho
[05:28] <adamonline45> DivideZer: Paddy_EIRE confirms its available.  It's worth a shot I suppose... What I heard about it, and why I recommend it blindly, is that it works nearly identically across platforms
[05:28] <soldats> corruptionoflulz, protip: ask ubotu about love or hate or maybe loli
[05:29] <brandon_> i had headphones in with max voluume
[05:29] <brandon_> ouch
[05:29] <erat123> corruptionoflulz: do you have any ideas for my question?
[05:29] <webpirate> he he he
[05:29] <webpirate> that will learn ya
[05:29] <brandon_> slayer in full blast is painfull
[05:29] <Paddy_EIRE> adamonline45, yeah its cross-platform..
[05:29] <corruptionoflulz> erat123: i never saw you ask one
[05:29] <excoder> dsnyders: it's not working anywhere..
[05:29] <erat123> ubuntu allows you to find the best server in the software sources, is there a way to do this same thing in bash on my ubuntu server?
[05:29] <Assid> adamonline45: never really thought of os x to be resource hungry
[05:29] <brandon_> ok time to install vent
[05:29] <brandon_> so i can raid again
[05:29] <ridge-meister> soldats: yes, that's why i am looking for "programming exercises".  something that will force me to become intimate with the language.  otherwise i'm just going to read about it.  and of course we know that doesn't accomplish much
[05:30] <adamonline45> Assid: I'm into music production too 8)
[05:30] <soldats> ridge-meister, write a calculator with error handling
[05:30]  * corruptionoflulz knows nothing about ubuntu server
[05:30] <soldats> ridge-meister, with a gui too
[05:30] <dsnyders> excoder, I just tried it here.  No dice.  Not unexpected, since it came from my dim memories of long ago.  I am googling though.
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ridge-meister: search for source code and work with it, save you fav routines, merge them and make your own apps.
[05:31] <webpirate> you know what I figured out the other day...just incase anyone does not know this...if you log into ssh with -X option you can run X programs on your computer but the input comes from the remote computer
[05:31] <adamonline45> Has anyone used madwifi on a gen-2 macbook?
[05:31] <slowthy> I am having a lot of trouble getting the drivers for my Intel Media Accelerator 950 Graphics card in 7.10.  I am new to linux, and any help would be great
[05:31] <^Ocean^> Is the webcam Spca5xx Driver Stalk with ubuntu? Or do i have too install a package too get the kernel driver for it ?
[05:31] <soldats> ridge-meister, write a script that changes your wallpaper each day
[05:31] <webpirate> almost defeats the point of VNC
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[05:31] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:31] <excoder> dsnyders: yeah, i tried googling it and I can't seem to find a solid resolution..
[05:32] <Paddy_EIRE> ridge-meister, yeah... I have also been looking for exercises myself but I found this and think its great to read through http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/
[05:32] <soldats> webpirate, old news is old
[05:32] <corruptionoflulz> soldats: ridge-meister and give that script to me, because i hate the gnome wallpaper manager thing
[05:32] <webpirate> I know...but I just figured it out so I thought I would share it
[05:32] <ridge-meister> soldats: now, wouldn't writing a script to change my wallpaper each day also require me to have some knowledge of BASH :)
[05:32] <ridge-meister> corruptionoflulz: lol :D
[05:32] <webpirate> someone might have learned something......new people here everyday
[05:32] <soldats> corruptionoflulz, yea i kinda wanted it as well cause im too lazy to do it
[05:33] <corruptionoflulz> soldats: desktop drapes works alright, but you have to put everything in the gnome wallpaper manager
[05:33] <soldats> ridge-meister, yes but it would still be simple
[05:33] <Assid> adamonline45: still mate, i always thought it had good system resource management
[05:33] <corruptionoflulz> soldats:  and when you have 1gb of wallpapers, it's crap.
[05:33] <soldats> corruptionoflulz, yea i figured i got lots a dem
[05:33] <ridge-meister> Paddy_EIRE: that's a nice book, but not quite what i'm looking for.....
[05:33] <webpirate> I am gonna to try xfce
[05:33] <ridge-meister> alright, guys, thanks for the help, off to tinker..not tinkle :D
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE>  ridge-meister go to #ubuntu-offtopic for more in-depth help
[05:34] <JJtech> is there any Microsoft windows Compatibilty Program aside from wine?
[05:34] <JJtech> !compatibility
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibility - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !cedega
[05:34] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:34] <brandon_> is there a way to access visual effects without system>prefs>appearence?
[05:34] <Paddy_EIRE> JJtech, what are you looking to run
[05:34] <adamonline45> Assid: Quite possible.  It felt a bit slow at times, though, even plugged in... <shrugs>...  I still love it though, hehheh...
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !crossoveroffice
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossoveroffice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <kelsin> JJtech: crossover office is a commercial version of wine that focuses on Office and other major products, and Cedega is wine with more direct X support, but past that you're looking at some form of emulation
[05:34] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: Counter Strile
[05:34] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: Counter Strike
[05:35] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: strike
[05:35] <kelsin> you're best off with wine or Cedega, past that you won't be able to get good performance
[05:35] <dsnyders> excoder, $'\xhh' returns the character equivalent of the hex number hh.  eg: echo $'\x65' echoes an e.
[05:35] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: ok i will try cedega
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> not free
[05:35] <brandon_> is there a way to access visual effects without the apperacne menu
[05:35] <JJtech> how to obtain cedega?
[05:36] <Paddy_EIRE> JJtech, from the site
[05:36] <JJtech> !cedega
[05:36] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:36] <Assid> adamonline45: om ?
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> see the link above
[05:36] <Assid> err pm?
[05:36] <kelsin> JJtech: if it's like it used to be it's 5 bucks a month to be a member with a 15 minimum or something like that
[05:36] <kelsin> JJtech: don't have to stay a member to keep using it, just to download and then to get support
[05:36] <JJtech> kelsin: OUCH.. i thought everything here is FREE..
[05:36] <kelsin> ubuntu is free
[05:37] <kelsin> cedega is just software that runs on linux, not part of the ubuntu project
[05:37] <adamonline45> Assid: DO you see my replies?  It says I need to register or something.
[05:37] <mofo> ok, I did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, restarted x, and it does the same thing - totally ignores the config.  I always wind up back with the same default settings.  is it the new gutsy autoconfig "helper"?  how the fsck do I turn it off, how do I just make this look at my xorg.conf file
[05:37] <dsnyders> JJtech, It's free as in liberty, not necessarily free as in beer
[05:37] <kelsin> and wine (which cedega is built off of) does work for most games, just have to look at the appdb on wine's website to see if it runs well without cedega
[05:37] <Paddy_EIRE> JJtech, no its not free.. but hey its only 15 quid
[05:37] <soldats> mofo, i wonder why it didnt change
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> dsnyders, you know where I can get free BEER!!!
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[05:38] <excoder> dsnyders: ok it works on some letters. thanks. but i'm not able to echo the (R) symbol. :P
[05:38] <soldats> Paddy_EIRE, if you find out i need some as well
[05:38] <Assid> adamonline45 oh ..
[05:38] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[05:38] <Assid> adamonline45 nah no replies
[05:38] <adamonline45> Assid: Crud... Do you know what I need to do to get to NICKSERV?
[05:38] <corruptionoflulz> alltray is a very nifty app.
[05:38] <mofo> I have no idea.  it's just killing me, I just absolutely won't retain any of my settings.  I mean - would it be easier just to downgrade back to feisty?   so frustrated
[05:39] <dsnyders> Paddy_EIRE, unfortunately, all the beer I've ever run across has a price.  If not today, then the next morning.
[05:39] <Assid> adamonline45: /nickserv help register
[05:39] <brandon_> Can any1 help me? my appearence menu (system>prefs>appearence) is frozen i i wont to enable extra desktop effects instead of normal any1 know a way of doing this?
[05:39] <Paddy_EIRE> JJtech, also this guide is meant for edgy but I'm sure it'll work on feisty and Gutsy as well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304528&highlight=counterstrike
[05:39] <excoder> dsnyders: looks like it only converts the first two digits.
[05:39] <corruptionoflulz> adamonline45:  /msg nickserv help
[05:39] <soldats> mofo, sorry but what exactly were you wanting to do
[05:40] <dsnyders> excoder, It is looking for a two digit hexadecimal number, which represents one byte which in turn represents one character of standard ASCII
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> qcode: You said firefox kept crashing, yet you didnt answer my question about how or where you got flash and java
[05:41] <excoder> dsnyders: so it can't actually work with the 0174 ?
[05:41] <Cyntek> hey you guys. I have a screenshot that my friend sent me and may have found the problem to his problem (no sound) how can we change it....to output to his speakers. http://www.localscoop.us/Screenshot.png
[05:41] <adamonline45> Assid: Dang, it doesn't seem to have a login option; it's all admin-looking commands
[05:42] <adamonline45> I thought it was /register <password>
[05:42] <mofo> soldats: I upgraded a perfectly working 7.04 install on a dell D620 laptop with an external 1280x1024 [primary] monitor.  I want my old xorg config back.  it won't take it, and the stupid "wizard" x config gui new to gutsy won't take the settings.  I fill in everything properly, and it just doesn't work.  I always wind up with VESA/800x600
[05:42] <corruptionoflulz> Cyntek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[05:42] <Assid> adamonline45: yeah its mentioned there
[05:43] <adamonline45> Hmm... I don't see it; I'm using kopete if it matters, which it shouldn't, but... hmm
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[05:43] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:43] <corruptionoflulz> Cyntek: it's pretty possible, that you just have to set the preferred one to default, i had that problem
[05:43] <soldats> mofo, when you ran the reconfigure command try setting the color to 16 bit thats how i fixed it for myself. i had the same problem
[05:43] <Cyntek> how can he do that?
[05:43] <[Ramy]> hi, i can't find the pdf printer when i try to print slides to pdf using open office  ?
[05:43] <corruptionoflulz> Cyntek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[05:43] <mofo> soldats: ok lemme go try that :)
[05:43] <dsnyders> encoder, 0174=hex ae.  Try  echo $'\xae'
[05:44] <Cyntek> im reading it now
[05:44] <Assid> adamonline45: what do you do for dreamweaver ?
[05:44] <soldats> adamonline45, what did you need??
[05:44] <corruptionoflulz> Cyntek: it contains instructions on how to set defaults.
[05:44] <Cyntek> okay.
[05:44] <Cyntek> you had the same problem as well, right
[05:44] <adamonline45> soldats: How do I register my nick?  I AM at irc.freenode.net right?  It says I'm in irc.kde.org... This is my first time in IRC with kopete
[05:45] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: how come i get this message "  Couldn't find package x-window-system-dev " ???
[05:45] <adamonline45> Assid: I don't use dreamweaver, I do it all in notepad
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[05:45] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:45] <corruptionoflulz> Cyntek: i had the same default problems yes, but it's possible it's another problem in that thread
[05:45] <soldats> adamonline45, try /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:45] <corruptionoflulz> !sound | Cyntek
[05:45] <ubotu> Cyntek: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:45] <crdlb> adamonline45: irc.kde.org redirects to freenode, just like irc.ubuntu.com and dozens of others
[05:46] <crdlb> they do this so that they could switch to another network without changing anything
[05:46] <Paddy_EIRE> JJtech, which part of the guide where you on?
[05:47] <soldats> adamonline45, try /msg nickserv REGISTER <password>
[05:47] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I have some files ending in numbers.  How do I rename/renumber them with a leading zero (eg file_1 -> file_01)?
[05:48] <adamonline45> soldats: It gives me no feedback...
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: do you run wine or dual boot your pc?
[05:49] <soldats> thats strange id suggest you take a visit to freenode.net
[05:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, occasionally run wine
[05:49] <soldats> it has help for that sort of thing
[05:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, although dual-booting is better when it comes to gaming
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: I may ask you to test a program in a week or two...  It will run in wine or windows...
[05:49] <Paddy_EIRE> sure :)
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Will let you know when I get it to beta.. It isnt anything special, but should let you fix or tweak ubuntu system files from Windows or Wine.  full gui
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, wow.. very nice :)
[05:51] <lockd> But if it's your program you can compile it in linux as well.. though it takes winelib if you must use windows API
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Paddy_EIRE: Nothing special.. but will have you check it out for me.
[05:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Jack_Sparrow, anytime... :D
[05:51] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: is it your own application?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: but it is in VB6
[05:52] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: oh, so "API" isn't really a question
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: I know realbasic has a version that will cross compile, but is not free
[05:52] <JJtech> i don't know what happen..but my BOX restarted during WINE download..
[05:52] <tntCry> btw guys how come opera cant load websites , it says 404 not found...
[05:53] <_6StringKng_> url correct?
[05:53] <_6StringKng_> opera works fine for me
[05:53] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: PC restarted..
[05:53] <Paddy_EIRE> ah..
[05:53] <lockd> but if it was for tweaking system files don't know why you didn't just use a Kommander or something
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> JJtech: Odd, was it coming from our repo or from Wine
[05:53] <tntCry> it works sometimes and sometimes it doesnt
[05:53] <dsnyders> HI all!  My renumbering file problem is solved.  I just found the bulk file rename tool on the Applications->Accessories menu.  Handy tool.
[05:53] <tntCry> and why the rating of opera is soo bad in linux :(
[05:53] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: i think from wine
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: I wanted to get to them from windows environ... to get back into Ubuntu
[05:54] <Paddy_EIRE> tntCry, because firfox already comes pre-installed :P
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> JJtech: just get it from our repos...  less hassle
[05:54] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: will you walk me through??
[05:54] <soldats> dsnyders, thats good
[05:54] <tntCry> i recommend opera because of the cool side bar
[05:54] <tntCry> and speeddial and many other things ..
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> JJtech: go to synaptic... select wine and install
[05:54] <Paddy_EIRE> JJtech, just let us know where you are at :)
[05:55] <_6StringKng_> only reason I like opera is for the speed dial
[05:55] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: ok.. i'll do that sir..
[05:55] <soldats> opera is far superior
[05:55] <_6StringKng_> otherwise I use FF
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:55] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: ok
[05:55] <corruptionoflulz> tntCry: speed dial really isn't that great, i just opened up a text editor and made my own link list in html in like 1 minute.
[05:55] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: oh, might be interesting how you did that
[05:55] <jiutian> hi
[05:55] <excoder> exit
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: see me in about two weeks..
[05:55] <adamonline45> is there a way to restart x without a backspace key?
[05:56] <_6StringKng_> sudo apt-get install wine after adding the repo's to the sources list
[05:56] <tntCry> lol
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: Current version is not ready for prime time
[05:56] <Dr_willis> adamonline45,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:56] <kitche> adamonline45: /etc/init.d/gdm will restart gdm which is pretty much the same
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> adamonline45: see above
[05:56] <tntCry> corruptionoflulz, yes for the linux world and its people i know what you mean its ok! and the brain is ok with it...
[05:56] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: do you have the functions?
[05:56] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: kitche: What if I'm using KDE?
[05:57] <corruptionoflulz> tntCry: i don't really follow what you are saying...
[05:57] <JJtech> hey, WINE is already GREEN box in synaptic..
[05:57] <Dr_willis> adamonline45,  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: the functions?  I can get to the files I want and edit/save them if that is what you mean
[05:57] <tntCry> corruptionoflulz, but for the 44% of the rest are people who are like me and dont want such things but want eyecandy simple and happy user...
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> JJtech: go to cli  type wine notepad.exe
[05:57] <tntCry> corruptionoflulz, and 12% are the people who are having trouble with all kinds of systems
[05:57] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: I could care less about program now.. I just want to see the algorithm (i.e. what to copy over manually)
[05:57] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: kk
[05:58] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: wait.. hehe, what is " CLI ??
[05:58] <tntCry> 44% of linux lovers and satisfied life style. the other 44% unsatisfied because of the childhood days they havent did what you did..
[05:58] <tntCry> hope you get it now..
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> terminal.. command line interface
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> DOS prompt
[05:58] <mofo> soldats: ok running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and setting the color depth to 16 made it happy with my laptop's display.  but how do I tell it that I have a second monitor?  I tried then using the "screens and displays" wizard, and that just screwed everything up again.  but running dpkg-reconf xserver-conf doesn't let me tell it about a second monitor, does it?
[05:58] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: i see..
[05:59] <corruptionoflulz> tntCry: i hate to break it to you, but opening a text editor (or a web design program) and making an html file with a list of links is really pretty straight forward.
[05:59] <_6StringKng_> you called terminal a dos prompt, lol
[05:59] <soldats> mofo, not sure about that have you searched through the furums
[05:59] <soldats> mofo, im very sorry but im unsure of using 2 monitors
[05:59] <mofo> yep
[05:59] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: uhhmm... notepad windows pop-up.. .... ....
[05:59] <mofo> have looked, can't find it
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: here are a couple lines of a bash script..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46407/
[06:00] <mofo> ok so if there is no way to get my external monitor with gutsy, I'm going to have to downgrade.  I looked for a tutorial - can someone point me to a definitive guide for downgrading from gutsy to feisty?  I'm losing work hours here and just don't have time to sort thruogh this x nonsense
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> JJtech: what did you expect?
[06:01] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks. Yay, no vb!
[06:01] <kitche> mofo: want downgrade instructions just install feisty anew
[06:01] <ankur> is there any command that can help me to add/del ip address with terminal?
[06:01] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: as expected.. window of notepad appears.. ^_^
[06:01] <mofo> can't install it anew - I have tons of things installed and configured specifically - that would set me back days, getting my dev env set up again
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: I thought you would prefer that
[06:02] <ankur> is there any command in ubuntu that can help me to add/del ip address with the help of terminal?
[06:02] <mofo> I need to be where I was two hours ago - either with a working gutsy w/ external monitor, or my old feisty install
[06:02] <Dr_willis> ankur,  what do you mean add/delete ip address?
[06:02] <ankur> yes
[06:02] <ankur> add/deleat
[06:02] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: Oh.. that's not what I expected
[06:02] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: that backs up some important stuff though
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yes it does.. right to your desktop
[06:03] <Dr_willis> ankur,    'WHAT' do you mean by add/delete. :)
[06:03] <Dr_willis> ankur,  add them where?
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: with specific file names
[06:03] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: does the fdisk allow you to reconstruct if you destroy the table by accident?
 like ifcfg command
[06:04] <mofo> anyone?
[06:04] <boss> irc://irc.xdccnet.com/bitchwarez
[06:04] <lockd> Jack_Sparrow: i've done that way too many times
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ankur,  you configure your network cards with the ifconfig command if thats what you are refering to.
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lockd: I think it will... since the switch to uuid I have not had nearly the problems
in fedora core ifcfg command work.Is there in ubuntu ifcfg command have?
[06:05] <Jaszbo> Hi room. I have been working on getting my wireless connection up and running in UbuntuStudio. I have an HP DV6646US laptop and it has a broadcom wireless. I have been on the forums and I have downloaded a bunch of stuff, but it still won't work. I have tried Network Manager, but it doesn't recognize my wireless connection. Any ideas+
[06:05] <Dr_willis> ankur,  ive neer heard of or used ifcfg. try 'ifconfig'   the redhat guys like to make their own little alias's and dumbed down scripts for the standard commands.
[06:05] <stdin> !ops | boss
[06:05] <ubotu> boss: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[06:06] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[06:06] <tim08> Hello all...
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Jaszbo: It would help to know what all you have done to try and get it to work.. as in scripts like automatix or envy (both very bad ideas)
[06:06] <dolphin_noel> why the manuals from ubuntu are roung? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset  /usr/bin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root it says it don`t exist
 ifcfg eth0 del 192.168.1.1
[06:07] <lockd> does anyone know where gnustep apps get installed to?
like that
[06:08] <TheShadowZero> hey there,  im on fedora 8 (#fedora is not optimal for support) and azureus doesnt start. output: http://rafb.net/p/b10eG664.html
[06:09] <Viper> TheShadowZero: Use KTorrent.
[06:09] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: azureus is buggy for me.
[06:09] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: try deleting all the log files
[06:09] <mikeo> so i installed all the alsa stuff from source and i still have no sound...
[06:09] <mikeo> how do i get sound to work on my laptop?
[06:09] <joycetick> is it possible to autologin on ubuntu server 7.10?
[06:09] <TheShadowZero> log files? why would log files break azureus
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[06:09] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:09] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: i had the same problem, and deleted log files, it'll start alright until you do an unclean shutdown
[06:09]  * JJtech be right back..
[06:09] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[06:09] <TheShadowZero> okay
[06:10] <Dr_willis> ankur,  start with 'man ifconfig' and go from there.
[06:11] <TheShadowZero> corruptionoflulz, should i just rm -rf everything in the logs folder?
[06:11] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: also, i've been  using deluge for torrents, and it's been alright (i didn't like it much
[06:11] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: ermm, just delete the logs that it looks like it's created
[06:11] <TheShadowZero> btw, nice nick. fox is stupid
[06:11] <HateX> Hey guys, this might be a little off topic but.... im trying to completly copy a hard drive (with a Vista OS install on it) to an external hard disk using NTFS file system as well
[06:11] <corruptionoflulz> hehe
[06:12] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: this should be easily done using gparted off the live cd.
[06:12] <TheShadowZero> corruptionoflulz, nope, didnt help
[06:12] <HateX> but im running into a lot of errors saying files are locked, i get the same problems when using an XP OS to copy a vista OS
[06:12] <joycetick> is it possible to autologin on ubuntu server 7.10?
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> HateX: there are several clone programs.. look into the dd command or hirenscd or ultimate boot cd
[06:12] <HateX> is there a tool that runs well on Ubuntu allowing me to do this
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[06:12] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:13] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: this should be easily done using gparted (system -> admin partition manager) off the live cd.
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[06:13] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[06:13] <greenman> Hello all.  I have a question.  But first I have to say that I'm using ubuntu on a macbook pro using livecd.  That's pretty  c ool
[06:13] <mikeo> heh heh should have just googled my laptop first
[06:13] <mikeo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3852561
[06:13] <greenman> My  question is I'm having problem installing ubuntu on a dell desktop.
[06:13] <HateX> ok thanx i'll try it corruptionoflulz and jack__Sarrow
[06:13] <Nematocyst> TheShadowZero, Azureus went south on me too.  probably just that i'm on 64 bit and java isn't working right... anyway, i went uTorrent through wine.  lots and lots of decent bittorrent options
[06:13] <greenman> It get's to the part that plays the music and the  monitor doesn't show anything
[06:14] <TheShadowZero> thats all well and good but alternative solutions are not really what i want
[06:14] <greenman> It's like it's not getting a signal
[06:14] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: well, if the log files didn't fix it, i dunno, like i said, i couldn't get azureus to work even close to stable
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: what model of Dell
[06:14] <TheShadowZero> i see
[06:14] <TheShadowZero> worked fine before i upgraded
[06:14] <corruptionoflulz> TheShadowZero: although, if you want the most stable one, use rtorrent
[06:14] <ankur> s for example suppose my ip is 192.168.1.1 and i want to change it to 192.168.1.5 with the help of command
[06:14] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: Not sure offhand, I know it's not horribly old.  It plays Halflife 2 and  such.
[06:14] <kiosk> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: at the start install menu.. try F6 then noapic    , also burning slow helps, or use the alternate-text installer
[06:15] <greenman> noapic, what does that do?
[06:15] <lockd> Ktorrent seems like the most useful torrent app
[06:15] <joycetick> ankur: setup a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: I ask as I have a few around, c610 and c640 d600
[06:15] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean by burning slow?
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: when you burn the *.iso.. burn at slowest speed possible
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: The dell should say on the bottom what model it is
[06:16] <greenman> Ah.  I've never messed with speeds on the MBP, I might  try that if noapic doesn't work.
[06:16] <mihai_> Does anyone know how to update my Synaptic Manager list?
[06:16] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I'm not  there anymore, it's a friends computer.
[06:17] <ankur> joycetick: no i need to change ip address with the help of terminal .Is there an command in ubuntu?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> housekeeping tonight
[06:17] <prakriti> ifconfig
[06:17] <HateX> hey corruptionoflulz , buy using gparted i'd be copying the whole partition right?, In doing this i would need to wipe my usb disk before copying the vista partition over to it right?
[06:17] <prakriti> ankur : man ifconfig
[06:17] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: I want to say it's an optiplex
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: try those suggestions...  so not a lappy...
[06:17] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: you could resize whatever partition you have on your usb disk first.
[06:17] <ankur> i read it but not get any option in man ifconfig
[06:17] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: then copy that partition into the empty space.
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: I also have a gx240 optiplx.. use F6 and noapic
[06:17] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: Nah, desktop.  :)
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> maybe 260
[06:18] <mihai_> How can I update the list in Synaptic Manager?
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> 478 socket p4
[06:18] <corruptionoflulz> mihai_: there is a refresh button
[06:18] <Jaszbo> ! wifi
[06:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:18] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: I'll try  noapic and I'll also Burn a copy  of the text installer if I have to.
[06:18] <corruptionoflulz> mihai_: upper left, "reload"
[06:18] <corruptionoflulz> mihai_: or sudo apt-get update
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: At least you know it will work with the onboard video or the nvidia plug in as well
[06:18] <greenman> The main thing I need is to fix the grub menu, it's trying to load an external hard drive so it gives error 21.
[06:19] <HateX> corruptionoflulz, OK, and once i do that what im planning on doing is upgrading the vista install to a professional version. once that is complete im going to bring back the file from the old vista install to the new. So im going about this right way correct?
[06:19] <mihai_> corruptionoflulz: A lot of programs are still not listed after doing that
[06:19] <prakriti> ankur : you can edit the files in /etc/network by hand and then /etc/init.d/netword restrat
[06:19] <prakriti> restart
[06:19] <greenman> I figured I could use ubuntu livecd to move data around and then just install ubuntu on the main disk
[06:19] <corruptionoflulz> mihai_: then the problem lies not with the updating.
[06:19] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: sorry, i don't really follow exactly what you want to do.
[06:19] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, well I think the MBP uses ATI.
[06:20] <mihai_> corruptionoflulz: Don't I have to set it for the universe or something like that?
 oh i need not do it manually
 i need to do by command
[06:20] <mihai_> corruptionofluz: I remember Kubuntu's Adept Manager having way more programs listed for download
[06:21] <corruptionoflulz> mihai_: if those are the programs you wish to access, then yes
[06:21] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: I thought onboard was intel.. but either way optiplex did work with the option.. You can create a spare partition for data then install to unallocated space.
[06:21] <kristjans> In where does one place the init-script in Ubuntu?
[06:21] <corruptionoflulz> mihai_: an easy way to do this is system -> admin -> software sources
[06:21] <joycetick> ankur: you can edit in command, nano /etc/...
[06:21] <kristjans> I am an Arch Linux user assisting an Ubuntu user, therefore I do not know where to let him place the init script.
[06:22] <CoasterMaster> !init | kristjans
[06:22] <ubotu> kristjans: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:22] <HateX> corruptionoflulz,  im taking a computer with vista home and im upgrading it to vista pro (so i can join it to our domain) but i don't want to lose all of the documents stuff on it. I want to copy everything on the drive before i do my fresh install. This seems like that sane thing to do right? copying the entire partition and all?
[06:22] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: I'm not sure I do know that I ahve the ati drivers in windows.
[06:22] <kristjans> Thank you, CoasterMaster.
[06:22] <Jack_Sparrow> greenman: it will e fine
[06:22] <deefzi> i've installed eclipse, and when i try to compile my .java-files in console, i get error that e.g. Scanner can't be resolved
[06:22] <thani> how to delete history in current shell
[06:22] <deefzi> i have sun-java6-sdk installed though
[06:22] <deefzi> but javac -version gives this:
[06:22] <deefzi> Eclipse Java Compiler v_774_R33x, 3.3.1, Copyright IBM Corp 2000, 2007. All rights reserved.
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[06:23] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> deefzi: how did you install your version
[06:23] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, he has two internal disks and one external, he's going to move data from the intern als to the external and then install linux on the main drive in a new partition.
[06:23] <greenman> I'm assuming he
[06:23] <greenman> has space
[06:23] <greenman> I'll probab
[06:23] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: if you have documents and stuff, it'd be easy to just copy those instead, but the safest way is back up the entire partition, yes.
[06:23] <deefzi> Jack_Sparrow, first i had sun-java6-sdk installed and then i installed eclipse
[06:23] <greenman> ly have to help him
[06:23] <HateX> corruptionoflulz, i tried connecting the vista hardrive as an additional hardrive to an XP machine and copying all the files over after i took ownership of them but i still was getting many errors like "access dennide"
[06:23] <Jack_Sparrow> deefzi: from our repo or from off the web
[06:23] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: for a minute i thought you were talking about trying to integrate the old partition back into the upgraded one
[06:23] <deefzi> Jack_Sparrow, repo
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> deefzi: k.. just checking
[06:24] <thani>  how to delete history in only current shell  ?
[06:24] <HateX> oh no corruptionoflulz
[06:24] <qinjuehang> anyone know about DRM_CMDBUFFER=-22 error with openGL apps?
[06:24] <deefzi> Jack_Sparrow, i can try "javac -1.6 *.java" which should compile with 1.6.0 but still - scanner isn't resolved
[06:24] <deefzi> like wtf
[06:24] <greenman> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for the help, gonna go back into OS X land.  :)
[06:24] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: then yes, the livecd partition editor should be fine, just resize and- wait.. i don't know if it can copy partitions or not actually... it should be able to.
[06:24]  * Psy-Krow is away: afk
[06:24] <greenman> I'll try your ideas.
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np later
[06:25] <qinjuehang> um...anyone know about DRM_CMDBUFFER=-22 error with openGL apps? and how to slove it?
[06:26] <qinjuehang> I get it from Blender
[06:26] <mihai_> How do I download the security updates for Ubuntu ?
[06:26] <HateX> corruptionoflulz, with regard to XP OS's i was always able to connect the hardrive to another XP machine, take ownership of all the files, then copy all the files to a folder on a different disk. But with vista im running into some rights issues. since this is not my data and im doing if for someone else i do not want to take the chance on not copying something.
[06:26] <tarheelcoxn> I've got no sound on a T43 with an intel ICH6 00:1e.2 0401: 8086:266e (rev 03). terminal bell works, 'tail -1 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat' shows '0: Analog Devices AD1981B' ... snd_intel8x0 is loaded ... can anybody help me troubleshoot?
[06:26] <girly2night> goodmorning ... Crossover or Wine to play wow on linux?
[06:27] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: fair enough, i have pretty much no experience with vista yet, so i'd take it the safe way too.
[06:27] <HateX> corruptionoflulz, im running ubuntu gutsy gibbon so i should be able to use the gparted here
[06:27] <kelsin> girly2night: wine, crossover doesn't add anything you need, and it costs
[06:27] <qinjuehang> girly:you should check the wine apps database
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[06:27] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !wow
[06:27] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[06:27] <girly2night> well most guides use wine ... so  i just thought to ask ...
[06:27] <deniz_> quick question, wat is the connection for my us robotics sporster 33.6k called?
[06:27] <qinjuehang> appdb.wine.org I think
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: SLow.. :)
[06:28] <tarheelcoxn> I should mention that I'm running gutsy, 2.6.22-14-generic
[06:28] <HateX> corruptionoflulz, yeah i hate vista, lots of problems joining them to domains and group policies get very messed up when trying to control XP boxs and Vista boxes with the same policies
[06:28] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: Sorry.. I assume it is a hardware modem.
[06:28] <corruptionoflulz> HateX: yes, gparted seems like it should take care of all of your needs. (i think i may have read somewhere that it's safer to run gparted from livecd, but i don't really recall on that one at all, and if you are accessing drives that your linux install isn't on, it should be fine.)
[06:28] <deniz_> no1 knows??
[06:28] <gladier2> hey guys - i keep on having my ubuntu freeze randomly on me - the mouse cursor still moves and its a fresh install
[06:29] <tarheelcoxn> gladier2: is compiz on?
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS
[06:29] <HateX> cool corruptionoflulz , thanx for the help
[06:29] <corruptionoflulz> np
[06:29] <gladier2> tarheelcoxn: it was - since been disabled and still freezing
[06:29] <qinjuehang> m...anyone know about DRM_CMDBUFFER=-22 error with openGL apps? and how to solve it?
[06:29] <tarheelcoxn> gladier2: you've ruled out hardware?
[06:29] <bullgard4> What is the purpose of an 'Ubuntu Hug Day'?
[06:30] <tarheelcoxn> bullgard4: to reduce the number of open bugs
[06:30] <stdin> bullgard4: someone fixes a bug, and you give them a hug :)
[06:30] <tarheelcoxn> bullgard4: or untriaged bugs
[06:30] <gladier2> tarheelcoxn: not entirely yet - i had windows BSOD on my a number of times but it was never the same "reason"
[06:30] <gladier2> ive checked dmesg and /var/log/messages and so far havent seen anything special
[06:30] <ramza3> I want to buy a PC game at the store and have it actually work with wine.  I like all kinds of games; what is a game that you bought recently that is fun and works with wine?
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: It should show up as ttyS0, 1 ,2, 3, 4 or 5  so Test in terminal sudo screen /dev/ttyS0, 1 ,2, 3, 4 or 5
[06:31] <bullgard4> tarheelcoxn, stdin : Thank you for explaining.
[06:31] <gladier2> ramza3: WOW :P
[06:31] <girly2night> anyone has used the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft guide to install wow? cause i really just started with linux... dont have too much experience with it.
[06:31] <kelsin> gladier2: check ~/.xsession-errors as well
[06:31] <ramza3> gladier2: Hmm, I have that one, ok besides WOW
[06:31] <tarheelcoxn> gladier2: I smell bad capacitors, maybe?
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ramza3: if you want a cool fps... look at sauerbraten.. play online too
[06:31] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, i remember u, i was called s3a or s2a b4 basically i need to no wat the port is called so i can make it usb so gnome-ppp detects it thru the usb port
[06:31] <gladier2> probably ...
[06:31] <girly2night> will it be easy or managable for me?
[06:32] <hellonull> anyone familiar with mounting freebsd filesystems from the ubuntu livecd?
[06:32] <Cyntek> my friend is having trouble accessing the command: alsaconf in ubuntu, he is set as root  he keeps getting this msg: bash: alsaconf: command not found
[06:32] <qinjuehang> girly2nite:I guess not a lot of people here tried the guide...cuz WOW costs money.
[06:32] <Cyntek> why?
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: you are running usb usr modem?
[06:32] <LifeNomad> whats an easy sure-fire way of securing ssh logins, I have already moved the port to an arbitray # vs. 22
[06:32] <gladier2> tarheelcoxn: you mean PSU??
[06:32] <LifeNomad> psu? penn state?
[06:33] <tritium> LifeNomad: power supply unit
[06:33] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, no, i am not, but i want to get an adapter to make it usb bcuz apparently my laptops port for the modem is defective
[06:33] <kelsin> girly2night: wow has worked for me with no setup ever since wine 9.28, so it should be pretty easy esp if you have a windows install to copy from
[06:33] <tarheelcoxn> gladier2: could be that, too
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gladier2: If it smells warm... check fans and psu and the thermal grease between cpu and heat sink
[06:33] <kristjans> another question... does ubuntu use ~/.xinitrc file?
[06:33] <ompaul> !sudo | Cyntek (and the command is not found)
[06:33] <ubotu> Cyntek (and the command is not found): sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:33] <corruptionoflulz> LifeNomad: probably either that or portland state
[06:33] <gladier2> tarheelcoxn: pastebin of .xsession errors http://pastebin.com/d7e4d82f1
[06:33] <kelsin> kristjans: if you boot into the console and run "startx" manually it uses .xinitrc
[06:33] <Cyntek> so, sudo alsaconf as root?
[06:33] <LifeNomad> any thoughts on securing ssh?
[06:33] <TheShadowZero> btw, updating java fixed broken azureus
[06:33] <tritium> LifeNomad: it is
[06:33] <kelsin> kristjans: but gdm (the default display manage on default ubuntu) does not
[06:34] <kristjans> thank you kelsin, that what i was aiming for.
[06:34] <ompaul> !sound | Cyntek
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS
[06:34] <soldats> gdm uses menu.lst
[06:34] <ubotu> Cyntek: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:34] <kristjans> thats for SLiM, not GDM :)
[06:34] <tritium> soldats: no, you're thinking of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:34] <kelsin> soldats: grub, the boot manage uses /boot/grub/menu.lst, gdm uses a whole setup of session files
[06:34] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, well the modem is not with me, i just wanted to no the port's name
[06:34] <soldats> yea
[06:35] <Nematocyst> TheShadowZero, good deal.  you don't happen to be on 64-bit, do you?
[06:35] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, i tried detecting it with gnome-ppp thru each ttys?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: cant lnow for sure unless you have it plugged in.
[06:35] <TheShadowZero> Nematocyst, nope
[06:35] <TheShadowZero> 32bit
[06:35] <TheShadowZero> updated from jdk update 1 to update 3
[06:35] <shadeofgrey> anybody here know where to get the first release of the ubuntu liveCD for Hardy Heron?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: if usb   use lsusb   or lspci   etc
[06:35] <girly2night> so kelsin what u suggest is just to copy the wow folder from my windows to linux?
[06:36] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, its not usb but i want to make it...
[06:36] <kelsin> girly2night: into the right place, which is something like ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/ or something like that yeah
[06:36] <qinjuehang> Anyone knows how to get FlashMX 2004 to work in WINE?
[06:36] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, u or sum1 else had told me that b4
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: better off not trying to use a usb adapter for serial port
[06:36] <kelsin> girly2night: wow uses NO registry entries and no fancy anything outside of it's folder
[06:37] <kelsin> qinjuehang: check the appdb at winehq, I don't think people have had much luck with any of the flashes
[06:37] <soldats> qinjuehang, hmm i wish i knew how ive wanted that for a while
[06:37] <shadeofgrey> also does anybody here have extensive xperience with running ubuntu on the firt gen macbookpro and utilizing two displays -- specifically setting my macbookpro to make my 24" dell widescreen the standard rather than the secondary?
[06:37] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, ya but everything seems to point to the fact that my laptops port is defective since it worked on the port of this ~900 mhz old computer
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> deniz_: First choice is.... Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS  verify serial port enabled in bios
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight people...
[06:38] <gladier2> nite captin
[06:38] <deniz_> Jack_Sparrow, well clearly its pointless now but ill come back later since i c u alot
[06:38] <JohnMM> what's the command to reconfigure xorg?
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:38] <JohnMM> thanks
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight..
[06:39] <Learning-Ubuntu> Is there an ACDsee equivalent I can use in Ubuntu ?
[06:39] <JohnMM> goodnight
[06:40] <DivideZer> what in linux is like ADOBE FLASH CS3 PRO ?
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Learning-Ubuntu: I actually.. (gag me) run fastsone  freeware  under wine
[06:40] <gladier2> DivideZer: crap ... CS2 works tho
[06:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp
[06:40] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[06:40] <DivideZer> gladier2 ,ok like cs 2  but with what in linux i can create flash ?
[06:40] <qinjuehang> Divider, try Open-office Impress (or something like that)
[06:41] <kelsin> DivideZer: there aren't any great 2d animation programs yet. KToon and Synfig are promision though :-(
[06:41] <Learning-Ubuntu> Jack_Sparrow, Thank yuo just wanted to know if something like acdsee picases wa sin repos :)
[06:41] <kelsin> DivideZer: there are some programming libraries to create swfs, but nothing like flash
[06:41] <DivideZer> :(((((((((((((((((
[06:41] <RyanT5001> how do i get the mail command to work? i'm trying to send out some emails using scripts, but they just vanish
[06:41] <gladier2> DivideZer: i dont do graphics work so i cant help
[06:41] <Amaranth> DivideZer: you may be able to use it in WINE
[06:41] <RyanT5001> i'm not sure if i'm getting spam filtered or if it's just not sending in the first place
[06:42] <qinjuehang> Divide, OpenLaszlo will work too
[06:42] <DivideZer> yes i will try wine
[06:42] <gladier2> Amaranth: CS3 doesnt work in wine yet, however CS2 does
[06:42] <kelsin> RyanT5001: if you have exim installed (which is default I think) check /var/log/exim4/mainlog
[06:42] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: im back.. WINE seems okay with notepad.. but when i tried other applications, wine window opens up then closes.. howcome?
[06:42] <qinjuehang> I had no success running Flash on wine, maybe you will...
[06:42] <Peddy> is anyone having a problem in the game Sauerbraten where there are only 3 servers avaliable (yet on XP there are many)??
[06:42] <JJtech> !wine
[06:42] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:43] <corruptionoflulz> hey, i want to back up my entire home folder to dvd (all my programs and settings and such), should i just copy everything but /media and then i'll be good?
[06:43] <RyanT5001> kelsin: i don't have any such log directory; maybe I just need to install exim?
[06:43] <qinjuehang> JJtech what applications did you test?
[06:43] <JJtech> Paddy_EIRE: Yahoo messenger.,,
[06:43] <RyanT5001> kelsin: i'm clueless about this stuff; i've never set up any smtp-related anything before
[06:43] <JJtech> qinjuehang: yahoo messenger
[06:43] <kelsin> RyanT5001: try "man sendmail" and see if that reveals what stmp program you have installed
[06:44] <JJtech> qinjuehang: i will try another
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> JJtech: turn off effects
[06:44] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: ??? effects on what??
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> compix desktop effects
[06:44] <Nematocyst> compiz and wine aren't always friendly
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> compiz
[06:45] <RyanT5001> kelsin: no entry for sendmail.  the only mail-related package i've installed manually (over Gutsy) is mailx to get the "mail" command
[06:45] <corruptionoflulz> canonical really shouldn't have turned compiz on by defaults.
[06:45] <AddyK> Um, who was Filesender?
[06:45] <qinjuehang> JJtech: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7401&iTestingId=15981 Yahoo messenger does not work anyway
[06:45] <JJtech> Jack_Sparrow: ok.. i will try going back to metacity.. is this okey?? then i use wine..
[06:45] <kelsin> RyanT5001: you can also check /var/log/mail.log
[06:46] <corruptionoflulz> qinjuehang: can't you just use pidgin instead?
[06:46] <kelsin> RyanT5001: those will at least tell you if the mail is going off your server (or trying to)
[06:46] <RyanT5001> kelsin: i've got /var/log/mail.{err,info,log,warn}, all of which are empty
[06:46] <qinjuehang> corruptionoflulz, I am using pidgin...
[06:46] <RyanT5001> kelsin: oh wait, let me double-check, i think i was on the wrong machine
[06:46] <Nematocyst> JJtech, if it turns out to be desktop effects, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=533257
[06:47] <cyzie> RyanT5001, then enable the log to higher
[06:47] <JJtech> Nematocyst: ok..thanks..
[06:48] <Amaranth> AddyK: that was like 12 hours ago
[06:48] <AddyK> Amaranth  Yes, I've seen the logs just now... I just woke up.
[06:48] <HateX> has anyone used the NTFS configuration tool?
[06:48] <Nergar> hello
[06:49] <AddyK> (I saw)
[06:49] <Peddy> !internet
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <Peddy> !the internet
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the internet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <RyanT5001> kelsin, cyzie: sorry, i was retarded; i was accidentally in the wrong ssh session; although mail is equally broken, there is some log in /var/log/exim4/
[06:49] <gradin> !porn
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <gradin> meh was worth a shot :P
[06:49] <AddyK> :))
[06:49] <Nergar> i need help with dhcp3-server, i have it installed and configured but i can't start it
[06:49] <qinjuehang> ...wow?
[06:50] <RyanT5001> kelsin: ** ryant5000@gmail.com R=nonlocal: Mailing to remote domains not supported
[06:50] <qinjuehang> !FlashMX 2004
[06:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashmx 2004 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <qinjuehang> ...
[06:50] <cyzie> RyanT5001, ok, next time be careful of what u doing, u may think shut down box A then Box B
[06:50] <kelsin> RyanT5001: cool one sec
[06:50] <kelsin> RyanT5001: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and select "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail"
[06:50] <RyanT5001> bah, putting a real email in here was probably a bad idea, given spam spidering these logs
[06:51] <JJtech> guys, i accidentally delete the bottom panel.. how to restore it??
[06:51] <Saelynh> hi
[06:51] <Nematocyst> qinjuehang, the appdb for flashmx 2004 isn't encouraging.  see: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2294&iTestingId=4369
[06:51] <Dr_willis> bgates@microsoft.com ? :)
[06:51] <Jaszbo> !wifi
[06:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:51] <kelsin> RyanT5001: and then go through the rest of the config, there is a lto of explanation in the dpkg program and google for the rest cause I don't know what would be perfect for you
[06:51] <Saelynh> anyone know an app for optimise size picture ?
[06:51] <JJtech> guys, i accidentally delete the bottom panel.. how to restore it??
[06:51] <Saelynh> there is a thing like that in photoshop
[06:51] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh gimp
[06:51] <Saelynh> but gimp does not do that
[06:51] <Saelynh> :(
[06:52] <kelsin> RyanT5001: but then exim should be setup to deliver to whatever smtp server you need it to, or if you want to fully send email from your computer you should select the first option and configure it from there :) but at that point def should start looking at other tutorials on setting up exim for ubuntu
[06:52] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh yes it does
[06:52] <RyanT5001> kelsin: ah, ok, thanks
[06:52] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh ok wait
[06:52] <Saelynh> dolphin_noel: where ?
[06:52] <RyanT5001> kelsin: yeah, now that i know exim is the key, i should be able to find tutorials; thanks a ton
[06:52] <kelsin> RyanT5001: yep, by default it doesn't send email out :)
[06:52] <JJtech> guys, i accidentally delete the bottom panel.. how to restore it??
[06:52] <mohkohn> Hi just put an ubuntu cd into qemu and my world went grey.
[06:53] <Saelynh> I try to set my picture in indexed colors, this kind of thing, but my image is still to heavy
[06:53] <mohkohn> I had to do a hard reboot to get out.
[06:53] <mohkohn> Any idea why that might have happened.
[06:53] <kelsin> JJtech: right click on top panel and select "New Panel"
[06:53] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh open the image and the go to (image) and the click in (scale image)
[06:53] <qinjuehang> mohkohn: Did you try VirtualBox? Maybe something happened to your xorg
[06:54] <Saelynh> I dont want to resize it :o
[06:54] <JJtech> JJtech: thanks.. i see it now.. ^_^
[06:54] <mohkohn> is virtual box in etch?
[06:54] <JJtech> kelsin: thanks
[06:54] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh so what you try to do?
[06:55] <kristjans> once again, a question. should "#!/bin/sh" in a script be replaced with "#!/usr/bin/env bash" for ubuntu?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> kristjans,  ive never heard that suggetion befor
[06:55] <Saelynh> I try to have  with a small weght :d
[06:55] <Saelynh> an image *
[06:55] <Dr_willis> kristjans,  the default 'sh' in ubuntu is 'dash' so if you are using Bash features - then you SHOULD be using #!/bin/bash or similer.
[06:55] <kelsin> kristjans: fully up to you, sh follows posix standards and doesn't allow for extra bash stuff, using /usr/bin/env bash is more likely to run on more systems in case bash is not in /usr/bin
[06:56] <mohkohn> I am burning an ubuntu alternate install cd from a debian etch machine.
[06:56] <Saelynh> from 100ko I would like to have 50ko or less
[06:56] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh ohhh you can resize the image to lower the size and you can allways to when you go to (save ho) you can chose image quality ... and have theere more options
[06:56] <Dr_willis> what if env -> /usr/bin/env is not in /usr/bin  ?  :)
[06:56] <mohkohn> but the last question would be better on #debian so away I go.
[06:57] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh (save as)
[06:57] <kristjans> btw, i've never heard it either ;) found it in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession for the first line
[06:57] <mohkohn> md5sum: ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso: Input/output error
[06:58] <Saelynh> the "image quality" is only avalible for jpg exention
[06:58] <mohkohn> that is on the burned cd. sounds like I need to burn again.
[06:58] <kelsin> kristjans: if you're only using this script on ubuntu systems then it doesn't matter, if you want it to be "more" portable (depending on definition fo portable) /usr/bin/env might help, it probably doesn't make much difference
[06:59] <kelsin> Saelynh: what are you trying to save as?
[06:59] <tritium> Saelynh: that's because it's a lossy format.  You get to choose how much information to throw away.
[06:59] <kristjans> okay, it will be for ubuntu based system. thank you for all the replies! :)
[06:59] <dolphin_noel> Saelynh you go there more options then that like in png the compression
[07:01] <Nergar> nevermind, i got it working
[07:02] <ramza3> I am using record my desktop for video capture; this works and outputs different formats (ogg?) I want to be able to add a ogg music file to this video; anybody know how to do this
[07:02] <ramza3> I tried the jackd server but that didnt do anythign
[07:05] <Cypher100> Hi
[07:05] <Cypher100> :)
[07:05] <munk_> im trying to install ubuntu in my computer but it wont see my partitions already made and i REALLY dont want to delete them cuz i need stuff off them....H?ELPPP
[07:06] <Rumpsteak> ; /me waves!
[07:06] <tritium> munk_: choose the manual partioning option
[07:06] <munk_> tritium i did and it doesnt see my partitions..
[07:07] <munk_> :(
[07:07] <tritium> munk_: that doesn't make sense, unless you didn't create them right
[07:08] <mihai_> What plugin should I use for Firefox in order to have most of the sound formats work?
[07:08] <Jan-Rippl> Hi Ubuntu People
[07:08] <_6StringKng_> hi
[07:08] <Jan-Rippl> :)
[07:08] <Jan-Rippl> I living in Czech Republic
[07:08] <_6StringKng_> get ubuntu restricted extras through add/remove
[07:08] <_6StringKng_> mihai
[07:09] <_6StringKng_> but you have to change "show" to All available applications
[07:09] <mihai_> ok
[07:09]  * JJtech be right back..
[07:09] <Jan-Rippl> You can listen my ubuntu radio http://mokriny.cz:8000/listen.ogg
[07:09] <Smegzor> How do I remove entries from the applications menu.  I have removed Wine (temporarily) but it always leaves all of its menus behind.
[07:10] <labinns1> Has any body found out yet how to print to PDF from any application in Gutsy that can be read by adobe?
[07:10] <dns53> the cups-pdf should be in by default, you can just print
[07:10] <mihai_> _6StringKng_: What exactly is the name of the package?
[07:10] <kelsin> labinns1: "Print to PDF" is an option for my in any print dialog by default
[07:11] <_6StringKng_> ubuntu-restricted-extras I think
[07:11] <_6StringKng_> I'll check
[07:11] <mihai_> ok
[07:11] <_6StringKng_> Ubuntu restricted extras
[07:11] <labinns1> kelsin, dns53,: Yes, It does not produce a document that can be read by Adove
[07:11] <_6StringKng_> you did change it to show all available applications correct?
[07:11] <isi> gibt es nen deutschen ubuntu channel?? wenn ja wie komm ich da hin
[07:12] <kelsin> labinns1: what does the adobe program say? I've never had a problem
[07:12] <mihai_> _6StringKing_ : Yes
[07:13] <labinns1> kelsin, dns53,: it does not recognise the script or some such thing.
[07:13] <kelsin> labinns1: I would double check that you're using fonts that are available on windows. by default it probably doesn't embed fonts (and I don't know how to make it) so make sure you're using Times new Roman or other windows base fonts
[07:13] <_6StringKng_> k, search for the package and install it then
[07:13] <kelsin> labinns1: does it give you that error? or does it just not look right?
[07:13] <munk_> tritium i created them right i have gentoo on them right now and it works properly but i wanna switch to ubuntu and the installer doesnt see the partitions...the reason i dont want to delete them is cuz i have a windows partition too that i need...
[07:13] <mihai_> Ok, I found it
[07:14] <labinns1> kelsin, But I don't determine the font for applications like Firefox
[07:14] <tritium> munk_: you're sure you're using the _manual_ installer?
[07:14] <tritium> partioner, rather?
[07:15] <kelsin> labinns1: like I already asked, does adobe give you an actually error? If so what is it?
[07:15] <munk_> tritium u mean whenever it gets to the partitioning of the hard drive to go on manual..right? ive done it before on my laptop and it worked and now it just sees the hdd but no partitions
[07:16] <tritium> munk_: yes, that
[07:16] <labinns1> kelsin, I am in Ubuntu at the moment and I don't remember the exact error, but it says something like it is unable to open the file because it does not recognise the script.
[07:17] <munk_> tritium and if i click on new parttyition table it uses the space as if the hdd is emp
[07:17] <munk_> *empty
[07:17] <tritium> munk_: strange
[07:18] <munk_> tritium i know but i really hope theres a way to go around it..
[07:18] <tritium> munk_: must be something unique to your setup there
[07:18] <munk_> tritium :(( these things always happen to me...honestly everysingle time..
[07:19] <tritium> sorry, munk_
[07:19] <munk_> tritium its ok thank you tho...
[07:19] <gRnt> Hi everyone I've got a slightly newbish question :)
[07:19] <gRnt> I've installed my first ever linux distro today (ubuntu) vut given I didn't have a machine I am running it through VMWare.
[07:20] <gRnt> All afternoon all ive been able to manage to do is update my sources.list to my local ISP's, I then decided to try out running an ap to see if it worked
[07:20] <gRnt> so I went to install xhat
[07:20] <gRnt> xchat**
[07:20] <dns53> labinns1: ok i have tested the cups-pdf driver, it will output a pdf to your ~/PDF/ directory
[07:21] <gRnt> when I run it I get the error "(xchat:4228): Gtk-warning **: cannot open display:
[07:21] <gRnt> is that a vmware issue because the app is gui based or did I stuff something up?
[07:21] <dns53> it is gui based
[07:22] <astro76> gRnt, xchat runs though?
[07:22] <munk_> im trying to install ubuntu in my computer but it wont see my partitions already made and i REALLY dont want to delete them cuz i need stuff off them....H?ELPPP
[07:22] <gRnt> well I dont know as soon as I type in xchat it throws that error
[07:22] <gRnt> when I typed sudo apt-get install xchat it installed
[07:22] <gRnt> so I assume it would run but I heard you cant run any gui based apps in vmware..
[07:22] <Jan-Rippl> I love icecast2
[07:22] <Jan-Rippl> :-D
[07:22] <althepcman> gRnt: setting in vmware
[07:23] <gRnt> ill have a look now thanks
[07:23] <gRnt> btw as hard as linux is
[07:23] <gRnt> i love it already
[07:23] <dns53> how are you running it, if you run it in a terminal the DISPLAY veriable that tells the application where the screen is can get messed up, run it through the menu or another terminal
[07:23] <labinns1> dns53, The problem is this document cannot be read by adobe. In fact nothing goes to my PDF directory unless I select print to file
[07:24] <kelsin> selecting print to file makes it print the postscript that would be sent to the pdf driver to a file, that's going to be strait postscript and not work in adobe
[07:24] <gRnt> dns53 if by terminal you mean the screen you click on to do everything then yes
[07:24] <kelsin> labinns1: when I selected the CUPS-PDF printer in firefox and hit ok, a file appeared in the PDF directory in my home directory
[07:24] <kelsin> labinns1: and as soon as my gf finishes her wow boss I'll see if it opens on her windows laptop
[07:25] <Weng> Alright. Running Feisty, rebuilt with a custom kernel and, for the life of me, I can't get the nVidia drivers installed.
[07:25] <gRnt> althepcman would you happen to know where said setting is, thats also a good point it wont work without vid drivers will it?
[07:26] <astro76> gRnt, are you running a graphical desktop? what did you install?
[07:26] <dns53> Weng: same kernel version? you should be able to build the restricted package from source if you made a deb of the kernel
[07:26] <labinns1> kelsin:  Nothing goes to my PDF directory unless I use print to file.
[07:26] <kelsin> labinns1: so when you goto print in firefox, select the pdf printer and DON'T check the print to file box, and hit ok that nothing appears in the PDF folder in your homd directory?
[07:26] <Weng> dns: Newer kernel.
[07:26] <Weng> dns53: Newer kernel
[07:26] <gRnt> I am running ubuntu Gusty Gibbon in VMWare Workstation 5.5.4 (the ubuntu release is server and 32bit)
[07:26] <labinns1> kelsin: That is correct
[07:27] <kelsin> labinns1: just to be totally clear, after you do that and hit ok, then go to "Places" then "Home Folder" then double click on "PDF" you don't have any pdfs there?
[07:27] <JonathanPM> Hey Hey Hey
[07:27] <Weng> Envy bombs out while building the driver, too.
[07:27] <Weng> And I *think* I know why.
[07:27] <JonathanPM> evil whit death
[07:27] <dns53> weng: ok things get harder, you will need to download the restricted modules source, mess with the dependnecy of those packages so they depend on your new version. possible but a bit harder
[07:27] <astro76> gRnt, you of course need to be running X to run gui programs, otherwise there is no display, yes
[07:28] <xzased> hiya all
[07:28] <labinns1> kelsin: Only files that were created prior to my upgrade to Gutsy
[07:28] <astro76> gRnt, not sure why you used server instead of desktop then, but you can install ubuntu-desktop package if you want
[07:28] <xzased> how can I see the source of a program?
[07:28] <dns53> dns53: perhaps you could try module-assistant or the nvidia shell script
[07:28] <JonathanPM> I hate snow
[07:28] <gRnt> astro76 was just recommened by friends to run server so I did. what do you mean I will need to be running X to run gui programs?
[07:29] <kelsin> labinns1: then yeah, something is messed up with your cups-pdf driver and that's definitely above my leve of understanding. But adobe shouldn't be able to read "print-to-file" output, that makes sense cause it's not a pdf, it's the postscript fed to the cups-pdf driver.
[07:29] <Jan-Rippl> for your xmms: http://mokriny.cz:8000/listen.ogg
[07:29] <munk_> why doesnt ubuntu see my partitions? i tried to scan with gparted and it says that all the space is unallocated but i know i have partitions on it?
[07:29] <Weng> dns53: Now that I really think about it, the best course is probably going to be to go build the drivers by hand and hack the makefile's "check to make sure this goon actually has an nVidia card" to recognize my one-off video chip's dev id
[07:30] <labinns1> kelsin: Thanks for trying
[07:30] <Flannel> munk_: What sort of partitions are they?
[07:30] <JonathanPM> I have the same problem I cant get ubuntu to see my secondary hdd
[07:30] <dns53> munk_: you must have installed them under lvm the logical volume manager
[07:30] <munk_> dns53 i believe so if i remember correctly and is there anyway to go around that?
[07:30] <munk_> Flannel, ext3 and ntfs
[07:31] <kelsin> labinns1: when you print a systray icon should have appeared, when you click on it are any jobs sitting there "stuck"?
[07:31] <munk_> dns53, but the one that is important is an ntfs...
[07:31] <Weng> (Why HP couldn't just give me a GeForce 4 MX 440 that said GeForce 4 MX 440 on it instead of giving me a GeForce4 MX 440 that says GeForce4 Go 440 on it and has a different device ID is absolutely beyond me)
[07:31] <dns53> gparted does not recognise a lvm partition, there is a tool for fedora not sure about how to do it under ubuntu
[07:32] <xzased> hey, while you are in the driver stuff. Any recommendations on documentation to build a driver?
[07:32]  * JonathanPM looks outside at the 6 degree weather and the falling snow and shivers
[07:32] <Flannel> munk_: And if you boot to windows you see your partitions?
[07:32] <gRnt> althepcman are you able to show me where that vmware option is
[07:32] <xzased> woops. I mean, about how to build a driver
[07:32] <labinns1> kelsin: There status is held. When I try to release them the status temporarily changes to Processing and then reverts to Held but the job disappears after my 4th attempt
[07:33] <munk_> Flannel, yes i do...
[07:34] <z9999> We have ubuntu 6.06 installed on a notebook, and would like to give 7.04 a try. As we have spent over a year getting most things to work, we would like to keep 6.06 and make a dual boot install using 7.04, but we would like to be able to access the existing home directories when booting to either version. Has anyone done this previously and is able to give some details as to the procedure?
[07:34] <Flannel> munk_: Try another linux liveCD, another version of ubuntu, knoppix, whatever.
[07:34] <kelsin> any messages anywhere, or in properties for the jobs to say why they are held? Any errors in ~/.xsession-errors dealing with cups or pdf?
[07:34] <rgnr> hello every1!
[07:34] <munk_> Flannel but how can i put ubuntu after that?
[07:35] <rgnr> ubuntu rulezzz!
[07:35] <Flannel> z9999: You'll need to make /home/ its own partition (not difficult), and then just share that.  You could run into configuration version issues though (versions for stuff in dapper vs gutsy have different config options/fomratms whatever)
[07:35] <Flannel> munk_: Just trying to see what other things can see those partitions.
[07:35] <astro76> z9999, just make new partitions for 7.04 (you can use the same swap partition) and install, during the partitioning section of the install, you can specify the mount points of the other systems partitions (e.g. /media/dapper or whatever)
[07:35] <munk_> Flannel ok ill try thanks
[07:35] <OldakQuill> OK, very stupid question - where is the best place to install programs to?
[07:36] <ramza3> what are you guys using to convert ogg to mp3.  I was thinking about ffmpeg, but cant seem to find a command to do it
[07:36] <astro76> z9999, and from your rational for keeping the other system, you definitely do NOT want to share /home to be safe
[07:36] <Nematocyst> munk_, does 'fdisk' see them?  (fdisk <device>, then 'p' to display the partition table)
[07:36] <kelsin> OldakQuill: you mean programs that you can't install with synaptic/aptitude/apt-get?
[07:36] <MatthewV> z9999, if you just wanted to try 7.04 / 7.10, you could just use the live cd :)
[07:36] <Flannel> z9999: Or you can have a separate install entirely, and you just mount the old home to access stuff, yeah.  like astro76 said.
[07:36] <OldakQuill> kelsin: Yes
[07:36] <OldakQuill> And just a convenient common place for things like jar
[07:37] <kelsin> most times java apps (and other apps that have everything theyh need in one folder) get placed in /opt
[07:37] <gRnt> Does anyone know why I am getting the error (xchat:7933): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: when I try and run xchat (an IRC client). I have already installed the nvidia drivers using sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic. I am using vmware though...
[07:37] <kelsin> and normal autotools apps and other unix programs that follow filesystem guidelines are good to put in /usr/local to keep them separate from ubuntu packages
[07:37] <OldakQuill> Thank you very much
[07:37] <OldakQuill> Where does wget download to?
[07:37] <astro76> gRnt, because you are running ubuntu server with no x installed
[07:37] <astro76> gRnt, install ubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <Flannel> OldakQuill: working directory
[07:37] <kelsin> ramza3: just as a note, you're not going to get good quality going from ogg -> mp3
[07:37] <dns53> gRnt logout/login
[07:38] <labinns1> kelsin: Trying to have a look at the properties now, but I have not received any error messages
[07:38] <OldakQuill> Ok, thanks
[07:38] <gRnt> dns53 I havent had to do that yet how do I log out heh. save restarting the os ofcourse
[07:38] <simplechat> OldakQuill, current directory (.)
[07:38] <gRnt> astro76 what do you mean I have no x installed?
[07:38] <astro76> !xorg
[07:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:38] <OldakQuill> Ok, that was a dumb question, but thanks for answering
[07:39] <Nematocyst> gRnt, or perhaps you have installed X (probably as a dependency for xchat), but you aren't running X
[07:39] <Omlette> Hey, dumb questions are good too.
[07:39] <newbdude> my comp teacher told us that there are patches 'out there' to boost the recieving strength of usb wifi adapters. i think this is mumbo-gumbo, but is he right, i googled and yahooed but found nothing. can anyone point me to some good reading
[07:39] <h1st0> gRnt: Do you have a GUI or is your vmware system just console based?
[07:39] <simplechat> OldakQuill, thats what were here for :)
[07:39] <ramza3> kelsin, i have an input program that only supports mp3
[07:39] <dns53> gRnt: the problem is you do not have all the shell environment variables setup, a logout/login or running bash to create a sub shell may work
[07:39] <kelsin> labinns1: I would start poking around at http://localhost:631 and trying to figure out why the pdf driver is "broken"
[07:40] <h1st0> newbdude: maybe firmware upgrades or something.  I've even seen firmware that lets some cards run in AP mode.
[07:40] <labinns1> kelsin: Nothing in properties, printer status is ready
[07:40] <astro76> dns53, he has installed ubuntu server, there is no x.org
[07:40] <kelsin> ramza3: I'm not saying you shouldn't be trying to get mp3's as an end result, but if you can encode the mp3s from flacs, or original data that's the better option
[07:40] <h1st0> dns53: xchat will only run in X
[07:40] <gRnt> wow okay to everyone that replied this is my first install so most of this is going over my head from what I understand I need to download and isntall a gui in order to run xchat as I currently only have a console..
[07:40] <[cd]> Hi
[07:40] <h1st0> gRnt: yes or you can use a console based irc client such as irssi
[07:41] <kelsin> gRnt run "sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop" then reboot the vm
[07:41] <h1st0> [cd]: hi
[07:41] <gRnt> sudo apt-get install irssi?
[07:41] <Flannel> gRnt: yes
[07:41] <[cd]> Could anyone tell me what the pkg/program that is used in Gutsy for wireless (wifi)?
[07:41] <h1st0> gRnt: yeap
[07:41] <gRnt> YAY im learning..
[07:41] <astro76> gRnt, do you want a command-line only server, or a desktop system? if the latter, you might want to install regular Ubuntu in the first place, or as I said now you could install the ubuntu-desktop package from the server install
[07:41] <labinns1> kelsin: Thanks for that link, I will have a look.
[07:41] <gRnt> its taken me all arvo to set up my sources.list for my isp
[07:41] <kelsin> labinns1: that's the localhost link to the cups admin panel on your computer
[07:41] <dns53> come to think of it, there is a no-gui option for xchat, irssi
[07:41] <gRnt> linux is a steep learning curb lol
[07:41] <newbdude> h1st0: my comp teacher told us that there are patches 'out there' to boost the recieving strength of usb wifi adapters. i think this is mumbo-gumbo, but is he right, i googled and yahooed but found nothing. can anyone point me to some good reading
[07:41] <h1st0> gRnt: well console is yes.
[07:42] <h1st0> newbdude: they would be patched drivers or firmware upgrades.
[07:42] <kelsin> gRnt: if you were handed a windows install cd, a blank computer and had no prior windows knowledge it would be a pretty steep curve as well
[07:42] <[cd]> anyone here is using gutsy?
[07:42] <gRnt> true kelsin...I only went with server because everyone I know with linux said using a gui defeats the purpose of using linux..
[07:42] <gRnt> :(
[07:42] <h1st0> newbdude: search for patched drivers or have a look at the aircrack-ng.org site they have some documentation on altered drviers for packet injection etc...  That may be a good start.
[07:42] <zetheroo> how do you install VMware player from source?.... I downloaded the .tar.gz file and extracted it to my Desktop.... what now?
[07:43] <kelsin> gRnt: I would just install the full ubuntu desktop, esp if you want to learn
[07:43] <h1st0> newbdude: I don't know how exactly you'd boost a physical limitation unless the manufacturer is turning it down though.
[07:43] <rgnr> so.. who's the main helping hand around?
[07:43] <[cd]> Zeth usually ./configure | make | make install
[07:43] <astro76> gRnt, hehe, well defeats the purpose of running it as a server... but if it's intended as a desktop...
[07:43] <dns53> you can get a long way with screen and irssi
[07:43] <rgnr> where do i have to install java ?
[07:43] <h1st0> gRnt: well thats not necessarily true.
[07:43] <h1st0> gRnt: Once you get more experienced you will see what they mean.
[07:43] <[cd]> Anyone here is using gutsy?
[07:43] <astro76> gRnt, they said that because graphical desktop introduces security risks unnecessary in a server
[07:44] <[cd]> or gusty*
[07:44] <h1st0> [cd]: yes
[07:44] <[cd]> could the one who is using it , tell me what is the program used in it for wifi/wireless as i really need it ;)
[07:44] <gRnt> okay so irssi works mine
[07:44] <gRnt> except one thing
[07:44] <gRnt> how do you exit it
[07:44] <gRnt> hah
[07:44] <h1st0> gRnt: On my laptop I boot to cli and only use X when I need it.  I have a core gui set up.
[07:44] <newbdude> h1st0: thanks, i will look where you suggested, i know it prob not put out by the manuf. cause teach said that he couldnt telll us where to obtain them
[07:44] <munk_> Nematocyst, no im on the live cd it doesnt see it...i just tried with feisty too and same thing..
[07:44] <h1st0> gRnt: /exit
[07:44] <gRnt> pfft
[07:44] <gRnt> thats too easy!
[07:45] <dns53> install sun-java6-jre or icedtea-java7-jre
[07:45] <gRnt> I was expect ctrl + weird key combo or something
[07:45] <h1st0> gRnt: you can also /help  in there will give you a whole bunch of inof.  Or /help server   etc....
[07:45] <zetheroo> [cd]: yeah I know that is the usual way.. but all that is in here is a file called vmware-install.pl
[07:45] <rgnr> help pls!
[07:45] <h1st0> [cd]: what do you mean exactly?  What are you trying to do?
[07:46] <[cd]> try ./vmware-install.p1 or somethings
[07:46] <[cd]> i cant update to gutsy (bandwidth limited) , so i decided to install wireless stuff into this ubuntu without needing to update it
[07:47] <dns53> rgnr like i said, you can install sun's vm sun-java5-jre sun-java6-jre or the open source icedtea-java7-jre
[07:47] <[cd]> i tried ubuntu gutsy on my bro laptop which works perfect but i dont know where he put the cd
[07:47] <h1st0> [cd]: What wireless stuff are you looking for?
[07:47] <movaxes> sorry about this: Me and a friend found a illegal dvd, etc pre-teen por web site but since I don't live in USA probably won't help to call the goverment here, any help? (sorry for the off topic but sometimes one have to do what one have to do)
[07:47] <_6StringKng_> any suggestions on getting my internal modem in my laptop to work with ubuntu 7.10?
[07:47] <Nematocyst> munk_, well then i would try 'fdisk -l' to see that you are looking at the correct device
[07:47] <h1st0> movaxes: contact the FBI if for the US
[07:48] <[cd]> GUI wireless configure (usually some kind of restreicted driver and program that lets you scan all wireless and you pick the one you like to connected too (without using shell)
[07:48] <astro76> movaxes, that's a local law enforcement issue
[07:48] <movaxes> I don't live in the USA
[07:48] <movaxes> a web site?
[07:48] <movaxes> ok
[07:48] <kelsin> labinns1: you could also try "sudo aptitude install cups-pdf" again or "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cups-pdf" to see if that helsp
[07:48] <h1st0> movaxes: Well then you'd have to contact your local law enforcement
[07:48] <rgnr> any1 help please
[07:48] <_6StringKng_> whats happening?
[07:49] <h1st0> [cd]: ahh I believe thats just the new network-manager applet
[07:49] <dmb> hey, can anyone help me figure out why video in totem is blue for me?
[07:49] <zetheroo> does anyone know how to install VMware player from source?
[07:49] <dmb> any ogg/avi/mpeg all has a tint of blue
[07:49] <[cd]> i guess , could you tell me its  name please? :D (i really really need it)
[07:49] <[cd]> Zeth , the one you told us isnt from source
[07:49] <h1st0> zetheroo: I dont' really play with vmware I use virtualbox  but anyhoot there is good documentation on installing from source at help.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <h1st0> [cd]: network-manager
[07:50] <Slackwise> I have a program that is linking to the wrong set of libraries... anyone know a way to change a single applications linking?
[07:50] <movaxes> ok I'll try, sorry
[07:50] <[cd]> ok , i hope there is .deb or source code for it
[07:50] <rgnr> any1 sees me ?
[07:50] <[cd]> Zeth use this to install it ./vmware-install.pl
[07:50] <kelsin> dmb: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+question/7373 that might help
[07:50] <h1st0> [cd]: Its already installed in feisty you'd have to upgrade the package to the gutsy version.  I wouldn't really recomend that.
[07:50] <h1st0> rgnr: no
[07:50] <dns53> Slackwise: you could always try using system links to point to the correct location
[07:51] <[cd]> h1st0 the problem i am on 56k (modem) thats why i cant
[07:51] <Slackwise> dns53: You mean soft/hard links?
[07:51] <dns53> Slackwise: yes, soft links should work
[07:51] <h1st0> [cd]: No I'm saying you would have to upgrade that package and a few others to the gutsy version is that what you are trying to accomplish?
[07:51] <munk_> Nematocyst, it doesnt show me anything:(
[07:52] <h1st0> [cd]: also you can order ubuntu cds for free on their site.  The Ship it program.
[07:52] <[cd]> Well no , but i am trying to makes me wireless working with me
[07:52] <Slackwise> dns53: I'm fairly sure they wont... when a binary is executed, it checks the dynamic library cache for the location of a symbol for functions it needs...
[07:52] <[cd]> i know about that and i also know how long it will takes to arive ;)
[07:52] <h1st0> [cd]: So you need an app that will scan for APs and allow connetion easier.  hold up.
[07:52] <[cd]> yeah :D
[07:52] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've discovered theres a problem with my wireless driver, but i'm not sure what it is. how do i find out about what my wireless hardware/driver is
[07:52] <h1st0> [cd]: wifi radar?
[07:53] <[cd]> i would test it , thanks for your help
[07:53] <h1st0> [cd]: http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/
[07:53] <dns53> Slackwise: worth a try, if the problem is a newer version is installed it will work, if you have an older version than you need it will break
[07:53] <gaYloVerZ> wot?
[07:53] <[cd]> the link is ever better (thx again) :)
[07:53] <agenthex> anyone managed to get Xen working with an Intel C2D?
[07:53] <h1st0> [cd]: sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:53] <kelsin> johnnybezak: "lspci" in a term should list a bunch of hardware, should be able to find your wireless card there
[07:53] <h1st0> [cd]: it should be int he repos
[07:53] <[cd]> no need - emerge wifi-rader xD
[07:54] <Slackwise> dns53: I'm fairly certain I will break my entire system by linking to a different version of glibc :P
[07:54] <dmb> kelsin: that worked, again, another problem with proprietary only drivers :(
[07:54] <h1st0> [cd]: well maybe you should ask the gentoo people.
[07:54] <dmb> thanks though
[07:54] <[cd]> No , i am trying to install deb/gentoo/fedora  app mangers into one distro
[07:54] <[cd]> many people saying its a bad idea ,but i will see :)
[07:55] <h1st0> It is a bad idea because they aren't aware of each other
[07:55] <kelsin> [cd]: and files will clobber each other constantly, and you will just end up with a ton of incompatible binaries
[07:55] <[cd]> i would have to edit few thing , to makes this works with me but till that i am sure everythings would move smooth
[07:55] <kelsin> [cd]: not when all three try to install their own version of glibc on top of each other
[07:56] <rgnr> ыва
[07:56] <[cd]> no need , i will take care off it (by install it from source)
[07:56] <[cd]> so gentoo emerge will comes here , and other pkgs i will get it from other mangers
[07:57] <xTheGoat121x> evening
[07:57] <ankur> how i use proxychains in ubuntu?
[07:57] <LoneShadow> !livecd
[07:57] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[07:57] <h1st0> [cd]: its in the repos I don't know why you'd even bother messing with it.  Or why you'd even bother with allthe differenct package mangers.
[07:57] <evfan42> I need help installing with a dual boot
[07:57] <LoneShadow> !customlivecd
[07:57] <ubotu> Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[07:57] <h1st0> [cd]: since you aren't really gaining anything from it.
[07:57] <kelsin> then you break dependecies, so then to install a deb you have to tell dpkg to ignore the fact that it can't find glibc, then you run into two problems 1) you're losing the main beneifit of the whole apt system and 2) the binary debian packages will be built on other glibc versions -> hence broken system
[07:57] <h1st0> !botabuse > LoneShadow (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[07:58] <nitrix> im looking for a method to setup an easy\light HTTPD on ubuntu.
[07:58] <LoneShadow> h1st0: thanks :)
[07:58] <[cd]> Eww , i never though about it
[07:58] <ankur> any one have idea
[07:58] <ankur> ?
[07:59] <evfan42> I get a root error when trying to install 7.10 into a different partition
[07:59]  * [cd] is officaly ended his project
[07:59] <h1st0> nitrix: there are tones of light httpd out there.
[07:59] <usser> moving files to trash works very slow, and theres bunch of errors in dmesg regarding cifs
[07:59] <Weng> Well. I found why the nVidia driver wasn't building.
[07:59] <xTheGoat121x> There seems to be something going on with my ACPI that is causing my fan to run alot...
[07:59] <Weng> I accidentally turned off the System V memory sharing module when I rebuilt the damned kernel.
[07:59] <ankur> how i use proxychains in ubuntu?
[07:59] <Weng> Which, apparently, it needs.
[07:59] <ankur> any one have idea?
[08:00] <z9999> Flannel - astro76: OK, you've presented me with some additional questions.
[08:00] <kelsin> [cd]: you're better off learning how to package things (ebuilds or debs) for whichever system you like better and just making packages for the few things either ubuntu or gentoo don't have that you want
[08:00] <z9999> We would like to keep 6.06 installed as is until we can confirm that a newer version either eliminates previous hardware problems, wireless which now works fine, and audio which we still are having problems with.
[08:00] <z9999> We also wish to keep our personal files intact and safe, allowing them to be accessed from either OS boot.
[08:00] <z9999> I hadn't thought about differences in config files, but we have some very important files that need to be available for access while testing a new OS version.
[08:00] <z9999> Currently we are trying to figure out how to make a new partition without losing any important files. We've never used parted and leery of doing anything without first understanding how it works.
[08:00]  * Weng <3 ancient mainframe memory models in his modern GPU drivers
[08:00] <kelsin> z9999: if you do need to resize / make new partitions I recommend downloading the gparted live cd and using that
[08:01] <[cd]> well , i will on the leecher side then (the main goal to use all mangers) xD
[08:01] <kelsin> z9999: it's a gui, pretty easy to understand and in my experience works really well. Of course backup any important data before you do this
[08:01] <evfan42> can someone help me? I cant get 7.10 to install, I get a root error when I try to use the partition I set up for it
[08:02] <h1st0> nitrix: there is lighttpd and a sleu of others
[08:03] <h1st0> evfan42: how are you creating the partition that you want to use for it?
[08:03] <WGGMk> whats the command to format a HD completely
[08:03] <evfan42> gnome partition editor
[08:04] <h1st0> z9999: gparted may be the way to go.  or cfdisk something more graphical.
[08:04] <WGGMk> evfan42: no GUI command plz
[08:04] <z9999> MatthewV: Would the live CD boot allow us to determine if the wireless is installed and works, and the audio also? These are the two pieces of hardware we have had the most problems getting to work.
[08:04] <dns53> WGGMk: what do you want to format and what file type?
[08:04] <h1st0> evfan42: What is the error you are getting?
[08:05] <evfan42> h1st0: No root file system is defined
[08:05] <evfan42> thats the error I get
[08:05] <MatthewV> z9999, they would tell you if it worked out of the box... ie if it works out of the box then it will do the same once installed, however, if you need a lot of tweaking, you may not be able to try all that from the live cd
[08:05] <WGGMk> dns53: I want to format an external 500GB USB External HD... standby for file system type
[08:05] <MatthewV> z9999, since this is  a much newer version though , there's a good chance that even what you had trouble with before will now work without issue
[08:06] <z9999> kelsin: I believe we have parted and gparted installed from the package manager. Is the live cd you mention something different?
[08:06] <evfan42> H1st0 do you mind if I im'ed you
[08:07] <kelsin> z9999: yes, it's a bootable live cd that you can download from the gparted website and boot with. Just allows you to play with all partitions on the system
[08:07] <h1st0> evfan42: you have to mark the partition as /
[08:07] <avis> will gparted non-destructively resize a ext3 partition ?
[08:07] <robo> net
[08:07] <h1st0> evfan42: no I don't care if you msg me
[08:07] <kelsin> avis: yes
[08:07] <gruntLINUX> YAY For all those who helped me woot
[08:07] <gruntLINUX> im learning!
[08:07] <zetheroo> is it possible to run a virtual machine from a plugged in USB device?
[08:07] <gruntLINUX> anyway just wanted to say thanks im off to try and install apache
[08:07] <WGGMk> dns53: sorry i seem to forget the command to list the current filesystem type
[08:07] <kelsin> avis: (but obviously backup any important data, stuff can always go wrong) but I've had great experience with it resizing (grow and shrink) ntfs and ext3 partitions
[08:07] <h1st0> avis: any time you resize you have to possibility of losing data.
[08:08] <avis> thank you
[08:08] <astro76> z9999, the livecd we are talking about is the ubuntu install cd
[08:08] <h1st0> avis: I've never lost anything but its possible.
[08:08] <WGGMk> dns53: id like to keep it the same as my root filing system unless there is beniefts of others for strictly storage that will be accessed frequently and updating frequently
[08:08] <kelsin> z9999: the live cd I'm talking about is the gparted cd, I was just pointing it out as a good solution to resize and make new partitions, I'm NOT talking about configuring the new ubuntu install after
[08:08] <h1st0> evfan42: Once you create teh partition you also need to select the mount point for it in the installer.  Like /  which would be the root partition.
[08:09] <WGGMk> dns53: so my root file system is ext3
[08:09] <dns53> well the easy way is use gparted. you need to create a partition if you have not. there is usually a tool for each file system
[08:10] <Saelynh> thanks dolphin_noel
[08:10] <evfan42> h1st0: thanks, for some reason I couldn't get it but it works now
[08:10] <astro76> WGGMk, the command is mkfs.ext3
[08:11] <h1st0> evfan42: Yeah thats all you just need to specify the mount point.  Make sure you also create a partition for /swap as well.
[08:11] <dns53> thanks, i could not remember it myself either
[08:11] <evfan42> yeah I have a swap from the last one
[08:11] <h1st0> evfan42: Just FYI you could let he installer set up the partitions for you.
[08:11] <weyer> hi, i'm having trouble to mount an external usb drive as regular user
[08:11] <z9999> kelsin + astro76: Currently we have sda1 32 kb to 99 Gb ext3, and sda2 99 Gb to 100 Gb, which I believe is used as sda5 which shows to be a 1.3 Gb swap.
[08:11] <WGGMk> astro76: and that will format the existing partitions and make and ext3 partition after format? is this similar to fdisk?
[08:11] <weyer> mounting as root works fine, but i can't mount from inside gnome
[08:11] <h1st0> evfan42: and if you insist on doing it manually I would make a seperate /home partition.  That way if you reinstall or switch distros all your data and settings are saved.
[08:11] <weyer> any ideas where to start?
[08:12] <evfan42> h1st0:I already had a partition for windows that I didn't wont to lose
[08:12] <h1st0> weyer: what are you trying to mount.
[08:12] <kelsin> WGGMk: the mkfs commands only deal with the filesystems. I edit the partitions on the disk you need to use fdisk / cfdisk or a gui program like gparted
[08:12] <kelsin> WGGMk: *to edit I meant
[08:12] <h1st0> evfan42: Yeah if you jgust leave free space the installer does its job and won't touch windows with out telling you.
[08:12] <weyer> h1st0: external "enclosure" usb disk, with a maxtor inside
[08:12] <h1st0> weyer: should just plug it in.
[08:12] <WGGMk> kelsin: so to properly format and lay down a filing system use mkfs,ext3?
[08:12] <evfan42> h1st0: alright, thx
[08:12] <Indiadev_Techie> Hi every body...
[08:13] <astro76> WGGMk, Yes it will create the filesystem, therefore formatting it. fdisk creates partitions but you already have a partition
[08:13] <Indiadev_Techie> can i setup ubuntu as a server n windows machines as clients....
[08:13] <kelsin> WGGMk: once you have a partition that you want to have formatted ext3, that command will do it
[08:13] <kelsin> Indiadev_Techie: a server for what?
[08:13] <WGGMk> astro76, dns53, kelsin: thanks for the help guys
[08:13] <h1st0> WGGMk: partitions are containers that tell the data where the start and end are.  If that makes more sense
[08:13] <Indiadev_Techie> file sharing & communication....
[08:13] <weyer> h1st0: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume.
[08:13] <bidioule_> hi channel
[08:13] <WGGMk> h1st0: thanks for the helpful analogy
[08:13] <astro76> Indiadev_Techie, you could run a virtual machine
[08:14] <weyer> h1st0: that's what i get when i plug it in
[08:14] <astro76> !vm | Indiadev_Techie
[08:14] <kelsin> Indiadev_Techie: you can have a ubuntu server share files via the windows file sharing mechanisms
[08:14] <ubotu> Indiadev_Techie: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[08:14] <astro76> Indiadev_Techie, misread your question... ignore me
[08:14] <kelsin> Indiadev_Techie: as far as communications, I don't know what you mean by that
[08:14] <Wayn2> hey all
[08:14] <h1st0> WGGMk: then when you format you are just formating inside of that partition.
[08:15] <Indiadev_Techie> i want to setup ubuntu as a surver since windows 2003 server license in very costly.... n it limits u to number of pcs.....
[08:15] <Indiadev_Techie> kelsin: i mean ircd for communication...
[08:15] <bidioule_> here is my problem : i have recently bought an ASUS Z99N, installed ubuntu, and it appears that during the booting, it sometimes freezes. i have found out that launching a memtest before booting reduces the likelyhood of a freezing, and i'm lost about what to do next to fix it
[08:15] <Indiadev_Techie> we have hp workstaion in our campus/academy
[08:16] <kelsin> IRC is OS independent, you can definitely get an ubuntu server to share files via samba and run an irc server
[08:16] <Wayn2> i got a question for anyone of you
[08:16] <kelsin> bidioule_: I would try disabling acpi, it's a boot parameter, and see if that helps
[08:17] <rgnr> where do i install java
[08:17] <themoebius> hey do you guys know what the deal is with the official ati drivers? do i need to install it from their .run file or is the version in the ubuntu repositories best?
[08:17] <nitrix> whats a simple httpd for ubuntu? lighttpd doesnt work...
[08:17] <kelsin> rgnr: to install java you just type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" there is no "where" unless you're doing something very tricky
[08:17] <bidioule_> kelsin : it seems to freeze almost always at the same point, i can see that during a recovery-session boot
[08:17] <Indiadev_Techie> nitrix : apache...
[08:17] <kelsin> bidioule_: what point?
[08:18] <nitrix> apache is not simple
[08:18] <kelsin> nitrix: people have gotten lighhttpd to work, what was the issue?
[08:18] <Indiadev_Techie> nitrix: it just luk to be not simple...
[08:18] <bidioule_> kelsin : would you know what is the file logging the output of the booting process ? i'll post my problem on a forum, it seems kind of crowded in here...
[08:18] <kelsin> /var/log/messages I think... I could be wrong
[08:19] <bidioule_> ok i'll check out, thanks for the help
[08:19] <dns53> rgnr sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre there is also 5 and icetea
[08:20] <Indiadev_Techie> astro76 : i dont wanna run VM instead i wanna setup a server for windows client o that we can share files, communicate thro ircd & browse internet.....
[08:21] <nitrix> i downloaded lighthttpd, ./configure then make and im lost...
[08:21] <kelsin> Indiadev_Techie: you can definitely do that on ubuntu, depending on exact requirements it will require some learning / google
[08:21] <kelsin> nitrix: install it with the ubuntu packages
[08:21] <nitrix> ?
[08:21] <nitrix> how
[08:21] <kelsin> sudo apt-get install lighttpd
[08:22] <nitrix> doesnt work
[08:22] <nitrix> tried b4
[08:22] <usser> nitrix, doesnt install?
[08:22] <kelsin> nitrix: and when you're at it it would be a good idea to browse ubuntu documentation, you should never be installing from source unless you have a specific reason to be
[08:22] <nitrix> packet lighthttpd is not avail.
[08:22] <Indiadev_Techie> n one morr question.... does ubuntu v7.10 have ntfs read/write feature ???
[08:22] <kelsin> you probably have to enable the universe and multiverse repos
[08:22] <usser> Indiadev_Techie, yes
[08:22] <nitrix> gay
[08:23] <Indiadev_Techie> usser: gr888888888888888888
[08:23] <kelsin> !universe
[08:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[08:23] <Indiadev_Techie> i luv ubuntu
[08:23] <astro76> nitrix, it would help if you spelled it right, lighttpd, also you could drop the offensive language in here thanks
[08:25] <romulo> hi, can you tell me if teh tracker tool can index NTFS partitions?
[08:25] <nitrix> rofl thats why, what a dumb program name
[08:26] <kcrzedmon> hello channel
[08:26] <FreeFall> yaay
[08:26] <FreeFall> ubunntu
[08:27] <Kanashimi> Hello there. Anyone else having PHP trouble after the latest security update for it? -- Specifically PHP not interpreting the files but the files being sent as-is instead. I think it also overwrote portions of my config.
[08:27] <Chobotron> I installed MediaWiki1.10, but http://localhost/wiki doesn't do anthing... what else do i need to set up???
[08:28] <Gnea> Kanashimi: that's an apache config problem, not a php problem
[08:28] <astro76> nitrix, it's clever :p
[08:28] <amp> I have a problem with the program “Gyach” to run in yahoo but now when I click to get sound/voice in the yahoo chat room I get this message saying
[08:28] <amp> “Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files:
[08:28] <amp>       tsd32.dll and  tssoft.acm ...Not in the following directories:
[08:28] <amp>       /usr/lib/win32/
[08:28] <amp>       /usr/local/lib/win32/ ?? how can I fix this problem ??
[08:28] <amp>    
[08:28] <amp> I installed ..  gyachi_1.1.0-1_i386_gusty.deb
[08:28] <Kanashimi> Gnea: Well, the thing is that mod_php got updated and after that it stopped working without me having touched the before working Apache configs.
[08:28] <Gnea> Chobotron: did you look at /usr/share/doc/mediawiki/ ?
[08:29] <astro76> Chobotron, IIRC mediawiki install defaults to w/
[08:29] <Gnea> Kanashimi: so did you check the apache configs for anything php-related?
[08:29] <Chobotron> not yet brb thanx doods
[08:29] <Gnea> !paste | amp
[08:29] <ubotu> amp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:30] <Chobotron> gnea theres nothin there just changelog..ARG,brb
[08:30] <nitrix> how can i find where a program is?
[08:30] <P5YCH0> please somebody help.i have a toshiba nootbook whit ati radeon xpress 200m. and i need something like beryl
[08:30] <Gnea> nitrix: which
[08:30] <nitrix> which?
[08:30] <kelsin> nitrix: meaning where lighttpd got installed?
[08:30] <Gnea> yes, which
[08:30] <nitrix> yes
[08:30] <Gnea> it's a command
[08:30] <nitrix> ok
[08:30] <Gnea> which ls
[08:30] <Chobotron> astro76   http://localhost/w/ ? nothin there
[08:30] <Kanashimi> Gnea: php5.conf and php5.load are linked in mods-enabled as they should be.
[08:30] <kelsin> since it's a server it probably has a command in /etc/init.d/ that starts and stops it
[08:31] <kelsin> you can see what files got installed with "dpkg -L lighttpd"
[08:31] <P5YCH0> somebody can help?
[08:31] <nitrix> how do i get inetd?
[08:31] <Gnea> Kanashimi: please read: look at the config files themselves, search for anything php, see if any of it is commented out...
[08:31] <ari_stress> !ask | P5YCH0
[08:31] <ubotu> P5YCH0: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:31] <Chobotron> how exactly does the apache base directory work? it uses /var/www but it also has other paths ?
[08:31] <ari_stress> !mp3
[08:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <nitrix> ati and berly is easy theres like a billion tuts on google
[08:31] <astro76> !compiz | P5YCH0
[08:31] <ubotu> P5YCH0: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[08:31] <nitrix> ati is crap tho
[08:31] <P5YCH0> i need somthing like beryl but my graphic card dont suport
[08:32] <nitrix> you dont get then
[08:32] <Gnea> nitrix: please, leave your opinion at the door.
[08:32] <mathen> how do I know what key is my Super? And can I change it?
[08:32] <ari_stress> mathen: key super is the one with windows logo on it
[08:32] <r0b> mathen: super = windows key
[08:32] <Gnea> mathen: <Super> is the windows key between ctrl and alt
[08:33] <Gnea> on the left-side
[08:33] <r0b> mathen: are you trying to change the key in compiz fusion?
[08:33] <mathen> Cool! thanks people, I saw a video how one could arrange all windows (internet, folders, terminal, xchat, etc) Almost like Super+E, but just not all "screens" :P
[08:33] <Gnea> i like the thing that lets you write in fire all over the screen
[08:34] <mathen> No r0b I'm satisfied with having it as my windows key :)
[08:34] <Gnea> mathen: yeah, the grouping is pretty spiffy :)
[08:34] <pg> I want to create a dual boot disk, with a new Gutsy installation and a Feisty installation copied from another disk (but created on the same machine).  I partitioned the disk, installed Gutsy on one partition, dd'ed the Feisty installation onto the other partition, and added stanzas for the Feisty partition to /boot/grub/menu.lst.  But booting does not work.  First it couldn't boot the Feisty installation, now it boots it but without
[08:34] <mathen> What do you press to arrange all open windows side by side so to say.
[08:34] <mathen> Not screens, but windows (xchat, internet, terminal, msn, etc)
[08:35] <pg> mathen: which window manager are you using?
[08:35] <mathen> Compiz
[08:35] <Gnea> side-by-side?
[08:35] <Gnea> i usually use alt-tab or Super-tab
[08:35] <r0b> mathen: i think if you click in the top right corner it gives you that look
[08:35] <Kanashimi> Gnea: Well, I just rechecked and Apache config-wise everything looks to be the same way it was working with before.
[08:35] <mathen> There I got the turn off button :)
[08:36] <mathen> http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php
[08:36] <Gnea> Kanashimi: well something's obviously not right
[08:36] <mathen> Around 3:33
[08:36] <mathen> In that video, he does it
[08:36] <mathen> It's a feature I've seen in newest Mac OX Leopard aswell
[08:36] <mathen> video is at the bottom of the page*
[08:37] <P5YCH0> the compiz will work whit my graphic card (ati radeon xpress 200m)
[08:37] <mathen> Any idea r0b
[08:37] <Kanashimi> Gnea: You're telling me :) I've even tried adding handlers in specific under the virtualhost, 'php_value engine on' and so on to try and force it to life.
[08:40] <pg> mathen, I can't see a side-by-side pic in that web page
[08:40] <nitrix> lighttpd gives me a 404 error wtf why?
[08:40] <r0b> mathen: shift+alt+up arrow
[08:40] <mathen> Woo!
[08:40] <mathen> Thanks r0b
[08:41] <r0b> mathen: np
[08:42] <pg> I want to create a dual boot disk, with a new Gutsy installation and a Feisty installation copied from another disk (but created on the same machine).  I partitioned the disk, installed Gutsy on one partition, dd'ed the Feisty installation onto the other partition, and added stanzas for the Feisty partition to /boot/grub/menu.lst.  But booting does not work.  First it couldn't boot the Feisty installation, now it boots it but without
[08:42] <mathen> Are there any better MSN-client then Pidgin? (gaim)
[08:42] <Max-a> hello
[08:42] <r0b> mathen: have you tried kopete or amsn
[08:43] <pg> mathen: Better in what way?
[08:43] <mathen> Like, more settings and such. To arrange contacts like in Win MSN.
[08:44] <delano> Yo, got a question 'bout partioning
[08:44] <delano> Anyone here?
[08:44] <pg> delano: just ask
[08:44] <MatthewV> delano, there are 1089 people here, just asik ;)
[08:44] <MatthewV> *ask
[08:44] <delano> Sorry, bad habit :)
[08:45] <mathen> brb
[08:45] <delano> When I run setup and it asks me to resize an existing partition... is it showing the size of the NEW partition, or the size the old partition will be afterwards?
[08:47] <ompaul> delano, tell us more about the machine - when you do that what is in your machine already some other operating system that is not gnu/linux?
[08:47] <H264_laptop> anybody have a favorite front end local dictionary?
[08:48] <ompaul> H264_laptop, in a console I use ispell
[08:48] <pg> I want to create a dual boot disk, with a new Gutsy installation and a Feisty installation copied from another disk (but created on the same machine).  I partitioned the disk, installed Gutsy on one partition, dd'ed the Feisty installation onto the other partition, and added stanzas for the Feisty partition to /boot/grub/menu.lst.  But booting does not work.  First it couldn't boot the Feisty installation, now it boots it but without
[08:48] <MatthewV> delano, you mean when you see a screen like this: http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistydual06rw5.png
[08:49] <adamadam20074> hi all, i just had a quick question
[08:49] <ompaul> !ask
[08:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:49] <mathen> I probably turned something off in Compiz, now I can't move my windows. Any idea? :P
[08:49] <ompaul> pg, you might want to continue that
[08:49] <ompaul> !compiz
[08:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[08:49] <mathen> Thanks.
[08:50] <adamadam20074> sorry, does anyone know how to get direct rendering to work? i have an ati radeon 9800 pro and have installed the newest driver with envy but cant get the direct rendering to turn on
[08:50] <delano> I have a 160gig drive with windows xp already installed
[08:50] <ompaul> mathen, your welcome
[08:50] <delano> MatthewV: yes
[08:50] <delano> That screem
[08:50] <delano> Screen, even
[08:51] <ompaul> delano, so then what it is showing you is how the disk will end up if you take its suggestion -- remember to defrag windows before you do it
[08:51] <rattts> I need a very lightweight linux OS for like a 10 year old comp with a 6 Gb HD...its to be used for word processing....anyone know any good OS for this purpose...it must have a word processor
[08:51] <ompaul> rattts, how much ram
[08:51] <MatthewV> delano, i think that's the size of the NEW partition, where the percentage is hte percentage of the old partition the new partition will take up.. you could always go 50% and you couldn't be wrong :P
[08:51] <H264_laptop> adamadam20074: I was told that the open source drivers for ATI work better with anything lower than the ATI X1300
[08:51] <rattts> i think 128 mb
[08:51] <rattts> or 56 mb
[08:51] <delano> ompaul: thanks
[08:51] <MatthewV> would abiword on xubuntu be too heavy? /me thinks it would...
[08:52] <delano> ompaul: so, say I slide it to 95% (139.5 in my case)
[08:52] <ompaul> rattts, ehh maybe 56mb - check out DSL not a great UI but in terms of a box that small it rocks
[08:52] <adamadam20074> ok how do i install the open source driver?
[08:52] <rattts> wat about an old version of ubuntu?
[08:52] <delano> ompaul: the 139g will be the size of my current ntds partition, right?
[08:52] <delano> ntfs
[08:52] <rattts> Does tiny Os have a word proccessor??????????
[08:52] <crdlb> rattts: if anything, ubuntu is lighter than it used to be :)
[08:52] <H264_laptop> adamadam20074: not exactly sure... just a sec
[08:53] <h1st0> rattts: ubuntu would be fine for that.
[08:53] <rattts> the newest version?
[08:53] <ompaul> delano, correct, however you should give the ubuntu O/S a chance and give it 15/20Gigs so you can keep installing stuff without pain
[08:53] <h1st0> rattts: or puppy linux or damn small linux there are tons of variants
[08:53] <h1st0> rattts: of small os's out there.
[08:53] <crdlb> h1st0: ubuntu is fine on 56MB of ram? O_o
[08:53] <rattts> lol
[08:53] <h1st0> crdlb: rattts sure running in console mode
[08:53] <ompaul> rattts, check out distrowatch.com cos ubuntu is too heavy
[08:53] <rattts> lol
[08:54] <rattts> ok thanx
[08:54] <delano> ompaul: well, it's a 160g drive, so 139 would still leave behind 19g
[08:54] <h1st0> rattts: do you need a gui?  then install ubuntu comand line and install flux or some lighter weight wb
[08:54] <crdlb> h1st0: I don't think that's how he would interpret that :)
[08:54] <h1st0> rattts: wm
[08:54] <rattts> windows xp ran fine on this comp by the way
[08:54] <rattts> so now wat do u think
[08:54] <h1st0> ompaul: no its not if you stay away from ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop packages.
[08:54] <mathen> Ok, I can't move my windows or make them smaller or bigger ( I reseted the settings in Compiz to standard, so I don't think the error belongs there anymore )
[08:54] <h1st0> rattts: how much ram does it have?
[08:54] <rattts> im not sure. it has no os atm
[08:55] <rattts> so i forgot
[08:55] <rattts> either 128 or 56
[08:55] <rattts> i think 128 mb
[08:55] <h1st0> rattts:probably 128
[08:55] <h1st0> try xubuntu out
[08:55] <rattts> ok thanx
[08:55] <rattts> xubuntu is lightweight?
[08:55] <h1st0> yes
[08:55] <H264_laptop> adamadam20074: this looks like a good place to start.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:55] <rattts> thanx. that will do
[08:55] <Sir_Fawnpug> Never operate a computer when drinking
[08:55] <rattts> cya im off to download xubuntu
[08:55] <h1st0> and if thats not light enough you can install a command line systme and install an even lighter weight window manager
[08:56] <ompaul> delano, I will say this however the more you give ubuntu the more you can do with it - I share with with windows by giving windows 0% of every hard drive in my house ;-)
[08:56] <delano> k I'm off
[08:56] <h1st0> rattts: but xubuntu will be fine with those specs
[08:56] <delano> Haha
[08:56] <pg> I want to create a dual boot disk, with a new Gutsy installation and a Feisty installation copied from another disk (but created on the same machine).  I partitioned the disk, installed Gutsy on one partition, dd'ed the Feisty installation onto the other partition, and added stanzas for the Feisty partition to /boot/grub/menu.lst.  But booting does not work.  First it couldn't boot the Feisty installation, now it boots it but without
[08:56] <delano> ompaul: I run a program called ext2fs
[08:56] <delano> ompaul: it allows windows to read/write to linux partitions
[08:56] <ompaul> pg, you never finished that line first time
[08:56] <ompaul> delano, that is horrible
[08:57] <delano> Nah, it's really useful
[08:57] <delano> Now xp and ubuntu can play nice :S
[08:57] <pg> sorry - what should I finish?
[08:57] <kritzstapf> delano: there a filesystem-drivers for ext2 for windows
[08:57] <ompaul> pg you finish at the point: First it couldn't boot the Feisty installation, now it boots it but withou
[08:57] <delano> Anyway, toodles
[08:58] <adamonline> 'ndiswrapper.ko' could not be found, has anyone dealt with this before when doing 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[08:58] <pg> ompaul: first it wouldn't boot the Feisty installation, now it boots it without drivers, and now it doesn't boot the Gutsy installation anymore
[08:58] <timsandtoms> Heeeey... What do I type to use a tar.bz2?
[08:59] <pg> ompaul: I think it was reading different menu.lst files these two times.
[08:59] <H264_laptop> adamadam20074: how is the process going?
[08:59] <stefano> i've wrote a paper on how to create an encrypted nas with ubuntu, but i'm not a native english speaker. could someone take a look at it and correct the mistakes i made?
[09:00] <pg> impaul: it's booting the Feisty installation but with the Gutsy kernel, so the kernel modules don't get loaded correctly
[09:00] <ompaul> pg, sounds more like a broken upgrade than a new install - the description does not match what you are suggesting happened :-( however I will have the bot message you something that may help
[09:00] <FreeFall> hi I am a linux n00b.  I had had enough of ms shit and I thought ubuntu would be the most user friendly for me.  I was wondering if there is a codec pack similar to k-lite or nimo for linux
[09:00] <FreeFall> totem is not working
[09:00] <ompaul> pg, now I am sure of what I suggested
[09:00] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: video or sound codec?
[09:01] <FreeFall> video
[09:01] <pg> impaul: OK...
[09:01] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: there is ffmpeg for the command line...
[09:01] <H264_laptop> for converting anyway
[09:01] <FreeFall> ok
[09:01] <ompaul> pg try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -- however I think you should back up any data you have and start again
[09:01] <pg> ompaul: I can try copying the installation, then installing if that will help
[09:01] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: what do you want to do?
[09:02] <FreeFall> play .avi files
[09:02] <FreeFall> I torrent alot
[09:02] <FreeFall> legaly
[09:02] <FreeFall> ...yes
[09:02] <pg> ompaul: I mean I can copy the Feisty installation, then install Gutsy on another partition
[09:02] <usser> FreeFall, u can install vlc player
[09:02] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: ah... then download the VLC media player... the best there is
[09:02] <FreeFall> I know
[09:02] <FreeFall> I hates vlc
[09:02] <nikosapi_> hello, I'm doing an alternate install on a machine that has no possibility of connecting to the internet, I selected a different language (French) and it said it could download some additional dictionaries, etc. How would I go about finishing the language installation?
[09:02] <FreeFall> oh well
[09:02] <FreeFall> if I got to I got to
[09:02] <h1st0> !codec > FreeFall (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[09:02] <stefano> it is five pages, could somebody please take a look at it? i'd be glad
[09:02] <FreeFall> what about kaffine?
[09:02] <ompaul> pg do this, using a live CD examine your machine and move your home directory to somewhere safe or that you are sure of and then start your processes again
[09:03] <usser> FreeFall, or mplayer or xine
[09:03] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: hehe... I love it myself ;)
[09:03] <usser> FreeFall, kaffeine is pretty cool
[09:03] <usser> FreeFall, i loved it
[09:03] <ompaul> pg I have to go later and enjoy the learning ;-)
[09:03] <bullgard4> When havong Freenode, how can one put to good use OFTC in addition?
[09:03] <usser> FreeFall, u'd have to tinker with the codecs a bit to make it work properly
[09:03] <t1n0m3n> I have been to several channels in search of a problem resolution, I have yet to find a fix to my issue.  I am running kubuntu 7.10 x64 and I am getting internet slowness (7.2 KBps) across the internet only.  I have an XP machine that D/L files at 600+ KBps on the same lan, and I have another HD with kubuntu 7.10 32 bit that downloads the same as my XP machine.  A weird piece is that samba downloads from my XP machine to my 7
[09:03] <t1n0m3n> nered, but no one seems to be able to give me further help.  If anyone thinks they can shed light on what is happening, I welcome some direction.
[09:03] <FreeFall> is there anything else that I should be doing to my ubuntu that might not of been in   the 7.10 pack?
[09:04] <pg> ompaul: thanks: just one question: does it matter what is put on teh disk first: the old installation or the new one?
[09:04] <usser> FreeFall, what do u mean?
[09:04] <ompaul> pg no
[09:04] <FreeFall> sorry to rattle off questions
[09:04] <FreeFall> I just want so bad to be done with microsoft
[09:04] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: DVD::Rip
[09:04] <astro76> FreeFall, since you are interested in media... start with ubuntu-restricted-extras, and libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[09:05] <astro76> !medibuntu | FreeFall
[09:05] <ubotu> FreeFall: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:05] <FreeFall> cool
[09:05] <FreeFall> thanks
[09:05] <FreeFall> sorry for being such a newbie
[09:05] <FreeFall> I found this site
[09:06] <FreeFall> and I figured the irc probaably better than trolling around the net all night
[09:06] <FreeFall> figuring out what to get
[09:06] <astro76> FreeFall, that will set you up with all the codecs and encrypted dvd support
[09:06] <FreeFall> awesome
[09:06] <FreeFall> thank you guys so much
[09:06] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: that is what this channel is here for :)
[09:06] <astro76> FreeFall, and flash, java, and ms fonts ;)
[09:06] <FreeFall> also I am using bitchx is that the best irc for linux it was the only one I know from when I made eggdrops
[09:07] <astro76> FreeFall, popular ones are irssi, xchat, and bitchx
[09:07] <gRnt> Is anyone able to help me out with my dyndns issue I know its not directly ubuntu related but im sure someone here uses it
[09:07] <FreeFall> fuck xchat
[09:07] <astro76> !ohmy
[09:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:07] <r0b> irssi ftw
[09:07] <FreeFall> oh crap
[09:07] <FreeFall> sorry
[09:08] <H264_laptop> astro76: assuming he is using 32bit Ubuntu... in my case I can not (really) use flash on my computers because this laptop is PowerPC and desktop is 64bit..
[09:09] <t1n0m3n> gRnt: I just joined, what is your dyndns issue?
[09:09] <timsandtoms> hey guys, what do I put into terminal to open a .tar.bz2 after i get to the right directory
[09:09] <gRnt> t1n0m3n other can access the server but any of the servers on my home network only get the option to log into my router. I know you can change your hosts file on windows but that didnt fix it
[09:10] <astro76> H264_laptop, good point, FreeFall you might also consider sticking with 32bit ubuntu, even if 64bit is an option for you
[09:10] <gRnt> for example if I gave you the URL it'd work for you but not here locally
[09:10] <stefano> timsandtoms, tat -jvf yourarchive.tar.bz2
[09:10] <timsandtoms> :D awesome, thanks
[09:10] <stefano> sorry timsandtoms no
[09:10] <stefano> thats xjf
[09:10] <astro76> timsandtoms, tar xjvf
[09:10] <stefano> either way :-)
[09:10] <timsandtoms> ah, thanks guys :)
[09:11] <ttt-> hi, what does ./ do exactly? im trying to add a shortcut to thunderbird to my panel
[09:11] <astro76> yeah v is verbose
[09:11] <t1n0m3n> gRnt: what is in your hosts file?
[09:11] <FreeFall> what is amak engine?
[09:11] <gRnt> windows or nix?
[09:11] <astro76> ttt-, ./ is current directory, ../ is one directory up
[09:11] <FreeFall> amarok-engine
[09:11] <ttt-> astro76:  but you need it to execute a program? ./thunderbird works.. but thunderbird doesnt
[09:11] <ttt-> in the terminal
[09:11] <gRnt> for windows its 192.168.1.100 http://dyndns account
[09:12] <gRnt> so thats obviously the servers static and the dyndns it should link to
[09:12] <gRnt> actually its
[09:12] <gRnt> for windows its 192.168.1.100 http://dyndns account/torrentflux/
[09:12] <astro76> ttt-, in the terminal you need to specify the full path to execute a program, unless that program is in your path, and ./ is the shortest way of specifying the full path ;)
[09:12] <stefano> i hate to ask again but could somebody please take a quick look over my paper and check for mistakes?
[09:12] <H264_laptop> FreeFall: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is your friend... you can look up any packages and descriptions there :)
[09:13] <t1n0m3n> gRnt: That doesnt look right, it should be whatever you set the account to update, not the actual url to the account
[09:13] <ttt-> astro76:  thanks for the help
[09:13] <gRnt> come again
[09:14] <gRnt> 192.168.1.100 is the ip of the server, which is what its updating?
[09:14] <astro76> ttt-, for the shortcut.. you will want to specify full path if it's not in $PATH, without using ./
[09:14] <ttt-> yeah, it worked like you said
[09:18] <eth01> can somebody give me their sources.list?
[09:19] <eth01> for 7.10
[09:19] <eth01> thx in advance
[09:19] <timsandtoms> Hey, quick unrelated question(But I can't very well ask it IN efnet)... What do I put in as the server when I set up an IRC profile for Efnet in Pidgin?
[09:20] <bardun>  Hm, how can i get white text on my panel? I want a black background with white text on top
[09:20] <eth01> timsandtoms: irc.domain.com
[09:20] <eth01> replace 'domain' with efnet
[09:20] <Abu-Aadam> timsandtoms: easy just find out a server on google
[09:20] <eth01> and .com with net =p
[09:21] <timsandtoms> ah, thanks :P i tried google, got a buncha IRC FAQS.
[09:21] <t1n0m3n> holy crap, this x64 bug is driving me nuts
[09:23] <digitaldevoter> Hi I cant install Nvidia drivers for Geforce 3 Ti 200
[09:23] <H264_laptop> eth01: http://pastebin.com/d7cf31c5a - on my PowerPC install...
[09:25] <digitaldevoter> after running the installation it says "Error - Nvidia-installer must be run as root
[09:25] <SiegeX> seems pretty self explanitory to me
[09:25] <digitaldevoter> how can I run s.t. as " ROOT"
[09:25] <r0b> sudo
[09:25] <SiegeX> heh assuming what you didnt know
[09:25] <digitaldevoter> yes I am new to Linux
[09:26] <H264_laptop> digitaldevoter: that is easy fix... though you need to be doing it from the command line
[09:26] <digitaldevoter> keep it going
[09:26] <H264_laptop> digitaldevoter: sudo ./NVIDIA_Driver_version.run
[09:27] <H264_laptop> assuming you are in the same directory
[09:27] <digitaldevoter> is ./ the way to the location ?
[09:27] <digitaldevoter> aha
[09:27] <H264_laptop> digitaldevoter: figure it out?
[09:30] <hangthedj> does anybody have trouble with VirtualBox not being able to run USB?
[09:33] <adamadam20074> ok ive managed to reconfigure the .xorg file with vimm, how do i save and exit the file?
[09:33] <digitaldevoter> H264 well now it gives me an other error Unable to find the system ultiity "ld" . Pleasy make shure you have the package "binutils" installed. If you do not then check that "ld" is in your path."
[09:33] <nko>  i can't upgrade my ubuntustudio from feisty to gutsy
[09:34] <nko> i have a problem with partial upgrade
[09:34] <opopanax> hai
[09:34] <opopanax> back
[09:34] <delano> Guys, major PROBLEM here! I tried installing Ubuntu but now when I boot it says "error: can not load operating system" - how do I restore my windows bootloader?!
[09:35] <delano> anyone?!
[09:36] <usser> delano, do u have windows installed?
[09:36] <delano> Yes
[09:36] <usser> delano, right
[09:36] <delano> I tried installing ubuntu but it failed
[09:37] <usser> delano, do u have windows cd?
[09:37] <delano> Now everything is !@#$%ed up
[09:37] <delano> Yes
[09:37] <r0b> delano: boot to your windows disk,choose repair, fixmbr
[09:37] <usser> delano, right so pop it in go to repair console and do fixmbr
[09:37] <usser> aww
[09:37] <delano> But Windows repair is useless?
[09:37] <usser> delano, well turns out it isnt :)
[09:37] <delano> Everytime in the past I tried Windows repair and it does zilch
[09:38] <digitaldevoter> how can you get rid of the boot OS chouser
[09:38] <usser> delano, windows recovery console
[09:38] <delano> Isn't there a way I can fix it from ubuntu liveboot?
[09:38] <doktoreas> delano, i fixed it with mandriva livecd
[09:38] <doktoreas> it has got an otpion to auto fix mbr
[09:38] <delano> does ubuntu have that option somewhere?
[09:38] <usser> delano, ubuntu doesnt have windows boot loader
[09:38] <usser> delano, or u just want any bootloader?
[09:39] <j__>  hola como puedo cargar los modulos de una targeta tv por favor
[09:39] <delano> Lemme try repair
[09:39] <astro76> !es | j__
[09:39] <ubotu> j__: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[09:39] <eth01> !nvu
[09:39] <ubotu> kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> I am suffering from sound loss after suspend/hibernate with an Audigy SE (module snd_ca0106)... Which modules do I need to put in MODULES= in the /etc/default/acpi-support? Only the very first one or all sound related modules?
[09:51] <H264_laptop> talking about sound loss.... for some reason my iBook does not have sound :(
[09:51] <soldats> hey i usually boot into cli when bored and play music and such but can i run multiple apps if i boot in cli instead of X
[09:52] <SuSe1> hi  there all
[09:52] <astro76> soldats, sure, there's 6 virtual consoles, you have bash job control, and there's screen
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> soldats: "$COMMAND &" will get you back to she shell while command is executed IIRC
[09:52] <soldats> astro76, thats what i though using F1 and such correct
[09:53] <soldats> MilhousePunkRock, i know that command in terminal but it only was working while i was in an X session
[09:53] <astro76> soldats, yes alt+F1 through F6, and as MilhousePunkRock said you can background a task right away with &, search for bash job control for more info
[09:54] <soldats> astro76, thanks i thought so i was just making sure
[09:54] <astro76> !screen
[09:54] <soldats> MilhousePunkRock, thanks as well
[09:54] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> soldats: yw
[09:54] <soldats> astro76, i rarely use screen hah
[09:54] <astro76> soldats, screen really shines when loggin in remotely
[09:55] <soldats> astro76, yea thats what i hear but i dont do that often
[09:56] <i0ht> hi
[09:56] <i0ht> any russian?
[09:57] <soldats> im glad this place is slow rignt now because 4 hours ago i was trying to help someone and text kept flying by and it was hard to concentrate plus my question was answered quickly
[09:57] <astro76> !ru | i0ht
[09:57] <ubotu> i0ht: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:57] <imbecile> hey guys. what do i use to make a video of my screen like in the compiz-fusion videos?
[09:57] <astro76> !screencast | imbecile
[09:57] <ubotu> imbecile: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[09:57] <i0ht> ty then
[09:57] <imbecile> astro76:  THANKS
[09:58] <imbecile> astro76:  which one do you recommend for starters?
[09:58] <kakoonia> !automatix
[09:58] <astro76> imbecile, haven't tried any, but I've heard good things about Istanbul
[09:58] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[09:58] <soldats> xvidcap i hear is good
[09:58] <imbecile> cool deal ill get both
[10:00] <fx|RabBi1> hi! i got massive crashing trouble with azureus bittorrent clinet on 64bit gutsy does anone have an idea hot to resolve this?
[10:01] <soldats> its azureus
[10:01] <kakoonia> hey
[10:01] <kakoonia> how do i uninstall kiba-dock?
[10:01] <soldats> fx|RabBi1, id suggest using ktorrent
[10:01] <fx|RabBi1> soldats: great
[10:01] <sake> #ubuntu-pl
[10:01] <imbecile> ive always had trouble with azureus
[10:01] <fx|RabBi1> kakoonia: forget it its instabel like hell take avant window navigator instead
[10:02] <imbecile> kakoonia:  sudo apt-get remove kibadock
[10:02] <fx|RabBi1> ok any alternatives to azureus?
[10:02] <bazhang> transmission
[10:02] <imbecile> fx|RabBi1 ktorrent is good
[10:02] <soldats> fx|RabBi1, ktorrent for gui or rtorrent for cli
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> what about deluge?
[10:02] <fx|RabBi1> wonderful, thx!:]
[10:02] <soldats> MilhousePunkRock, i herd it was slow
[10:03] <imbecile> im not that into deluge either
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> soldats: I never used it... My main system is Kubuntu so KTorrent is an obvious choice
[10:03] <soldats> since oink is down i dont torrent anymore
[10:03] <fx|RabBi1> and what about transmission?
[10:03] <bazhang> no port forwarding with transmission
[10:03] <aricz> rtorrent ftw!
[10:03] <bazhang> quite fast imo
[10:04] <fx|RabBi1> rtorrent?
[10:04] <soldats> MilhousePunkRock, ahh i just read somewhere the deluge is slow
[10:04] <dinop007> hi all is tge
[10:04] <bazhang> rtorrent is nice but no gui
[10:04] <fx|RabBi1> oh ic
[10:04] <soldats> rtorrent is faster as well
[10:04] <fx|RabBi1> well n1 priority: it ought to work
[10:04] <kakoonia> imbecile : would it remove it completely, cause i dont want any trace of it
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Doesn't rtorrent have a webui though?
[10:04] <fx|RabBi1> n2 priority fast pls gg
[10:04] <soldats> MilhousePunkRock, yea so does ktorrent
[10:05] <dinop007> hi all is there is a program similar to adobe after effects?
[10:05] <fx|RabBi1> uh webui?
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> soldats: I know, I use it on my laptop when I am too lazy to walk up to the desktop... It still requires X though
[10:05] <fx|RabBi1> does that need apache and php n stuff installed?
[10:05] <soldats> web user interface
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: php for KTorrent
[10:05] <soldats> haha
[10:05] <imbecile> kakoonia:  i believe so. you might want to ask someone else more experienced
[10:06] <kakoonia> :)
[10:06] <fx|RabBi1> hmm php needs to run on something
[10:06] <fx|RabBi1> which would be apache then...
[10:06] <soldats> kakoonia, sudo apt-get autoremove kiba-dock
[10:06] <fx|RabBi1> so i need a webserver to use a torrent client XD
[10:06] <soldats> no
[10:06] <fx|RabBi1> if it needs php?
[10:07] <fx|RabBi1> no?
[10:07] <fx|RabBi1> k ill try anyway gg
[10:07] <soldats> just ude ktorrent
[10:07] <soldats> use*
[10:07] <fx|RabBi1> yeah i will thx dudz
[10:07] <soldats> you shouldnt have a problem
[10:07] <kakoonia> soldats: ye, i tried it... and from some reason, it says, no kiba-dock package found... :S
[10:08] <soldats> then try it with "kiba" or "kibadock"
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> kakoonia: Maybe the package is called differently.. How did you install it?
[10:08] <fx|RabBi1> you cant apt-get install/remove that
[10:08] <soldats> or in synaptic and search for installed packages called kiba
[10:08] <fx|RabBi1> google: howto instal kiba-dock
[10:08] <dinop007> is there is a program similar to adobe after effects??
[10:08] <kakoonia> MilhousePunkRock : ye.. thats what im trying to remember, i installed it long ago.
[10:09] <ad80adi1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:09] <ad80adi1>   wine: Depends: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) but it is not installable
[10:09] <ad80adi1>         Depends: libaudio2 but it is not installable
[10:09] <ad80adi1> any sugestions?
[10:10] <usser> ad80adi1, what version u run  x64?
[10:10] <ad80adi1> nope 32
[10:11] <fx|RabBi1> gosh!
[10:11] <usser> ad80adi1, where u trying to install from official repo or winehq.com one?
[10:11] <fx|RabBi1> apt-get install ktorrent
[10:11] <fx|RabBi1> load a torrent an bamm it work
[10:11] <fx|RabBi1> cant it always be so?
[10:11] <kakoonia> would 'make uninstall' will do for uninstalling kiba-dock?
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: For best performance you would want to set up max connections and such plus port forwarding
[10:12] <fx|RabBi1> should;)
[10:12] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: what prot forwarding?
[10:12] <fx|RabBi1> aw ok i see
[10:12] <kakoonia> :)
[10:12] <ad80adi1> anyone down to help a super nube one on one?
[10:12] <fx|RabBi1> well i just set up nothing and i gotr 40k right away from the start
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Assuming you have a router/firewall, open the ports you want to use to the machine you run KTorrent on and set them in KTorrent too
[10:13] <fx|RabBi1> yeah just doing so
[10:14] <idiosync> au.archive.ubuntu.com aptget keeps timing out..?
[10:14] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: err which just fdroped my dl speed down from 40 to 12 k???
[10:14] <ad80adi1> usser winhq
[10:15] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> hello
[10:15] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> can someone help me to install skype :?
[10:15] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> or to intall my nvidia drivers :?
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Does it say "possible firewalled"?
[10:15] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: where should it say that?
[10:15] <dakochan> hi, my download speed from also less than 15KB/sec
[10:15] <Ayabara> what's a good way/application to test my webcam?
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> !nvidia | Po3aB-TpAkToP
[10:16] <ubotu> Po3aB-TpAkToP: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:16] <soldats> i think ktorrent uses port 6771
[10:16] <h1st0> !webcam > Ayabara (Please see the private message from ubotu)
[10:16] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> excuse me
[10:16] <idiosync> is there anything i can do if apt-get keeps timing out
[10:16] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> thanks for the link
[10:16] <fx|RabBi1> Po3aB-TpAkToP: nvidia: go to system/administration/restricted Drivers and check the enable chheckbox
[10:16] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> but i have reached
[10:16] <soldats> or use the plugin to do it automatcally
[10:16] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> i go in runlevel 1
[10:16] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> start drivers
[10:16] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> and it says
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> soldats: It uses what you tell it to use... Default ports are sometimes blocked by either ISPs and/or trackers... Best choice is something random above 49000something
[10:17] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> unabel to dind the kernel source tree...
[10:17] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> ?
[10:17] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> what does it mean :?
[10:17] <dakochan> idiosync, do you use synaptics ?
[10:17] <astro76> !enter | Po3aB-TpAkToP
[10:17] <ubotu> Po3aB-TpAkToP: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:17] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: where should i see that possibly firewalled statement?
[10:17] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> okay i will
[10:18] <idiosync> under system administration ..? noob
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: In the status bar to the left, there is a small yellow triangle with an ! that say possibly firewalled when you mouse over it
[10:18] <idiosync> first time with ubuntu
[10:18] <astro76> idiosync, you could change from au. to the main server, in System > Administration > Software Sources there is a drop down list, select main server
[10:19] <rik_> What would be the maximum partition size needed to install Ubuntu ?
[10:19] <fx|RabBi1> that is exactly what it says...
[10:19] <fx|RabBi1> which i dont understand cos i forwarded it
[10:19] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> I downloaded nvidia driver than i type in terminal sh /home/user/drivername.run and it says that i must turn off the X server - and i did that i went in runlevel 1 and than type again sh /home/user/driver.run and thank it says : ERROR: Unable to find the Kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure...
[10:20] <astro76> rik_, you mean minimum?
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Did you restart KTorrent in the meantime?
[10:20] <fx|RabBi1> nope?
[10:20] <fx|RabBi1> mom
[10:20] <astro76> rik_, 4 GB minimum
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: It will probably there for a moment after the restart too, but it will go away and your speeds should be ok
[10:21] <soldats> Po3aB-TpAkToP, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch
[10:21] <gruntLOL> Hey all whats that command based IRC program?
[10:21] <soldats> Po3aB-TpAkToP, oops i meant http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:21] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> thanks
[10:21] <soldats> gruntLOL, irscii
[10:21] <Po3aB-TpAkToP> i will take a look at it
[10:21] <gruntLOL> nah its not that
[10:21] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: damned still sying no incoming connects
[10:21] <gruntLOL> Ive installed it but forgot the name
[10:21] <soldats> Po3aB-TpAkToP, it may help to see if you instaeed correctly
[10:21] <gruntLOL> its close to that
[10:22] <imbecile> kk guys. im trying to make a romantic compiz-fusion video for my girl and post it on youtube. i need a way to write her name on something in some sort of text editor i need the letters to be big though so its decipherable. any suggestions?
[10:22] <soldats> gruntLOL, sirc
[10:22] <gruntLOL> starts with an I im sure
[10:22] <astro76> gruntLOL, type: apropos irc
[10:22] <imbecile> well not romantic just cute
[10:22] <soldats> imbecile, use gedit or such
[10:22] <imbecile> soldats:  thanks
[10:22] <gruntLOL> irssi
[10:22] <gruntLOL> no c
[10:22] <gruntLOL> ty
[10:22] <gruntLOL> ty had it installed but forgot the name of it....still getting used tio not having exes :)
[10:22] <idiosync> astro76: selected main server then close it says couldnt find package build-essential
[10:23] <idiosync> running in terminal
[10:23] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: still saying firealled and i dont get it i am also uploading
[10:23] <soldats> fx|RabBi1, the torrent just may be uploading slow
[10:23] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: It might take a while... Are you sure you forwarded all ports needed correctly? You might as well try UPnP if your router supports that
[10:24] <fx|RabBi1> i did forwar them
[10:24] <fx|RabBi1> my rouzter is also ubuntu
[10:24] <fx|RabBi1> with firestartetr gui for iotables
[10:24] <fx|RabBi1> not so hard to do actually...
[10:24] <fx|RabBi1> veeeryx strange
[10:25] <idiosync> lol its now remove upgrading repostiorues..?
[10:25] <idiosync> think i need to do some reading any links for newbies
[10:25] <veni> hi all
[10:25] <veni>  could some one please tell me, what is the difference between the updates installed through update manager and manually executing apt-get dist upgrade
[10:26] <soldats> veni, not much as far as i could tell
[10:26] <Symmetria> heh Im switching one of my servers to ubuntu linux because of hardware support
[10:26] <Symmetria> 10gig network cards ftw <3
[10:26] <veni> conside, for example, i have ubuntu fiesty and i want to upgrade my system to gutsy
[10:27] <astro76> !upgrade | veni
[10:27] <ubotu> veni: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:27] <veni> then i execute the apt-get dist upgrade, by connecting to gutsy
[10:27] <veni> but, will this install packages which are newly added in the gutsy CD and not in fiesty ?
[10:27] <kane77> what can I use to find out "fitness" of a harddisk? (something other than fsck)
[10:28] <soldats> kane77, df
[10:28] <idiosync> astro76: thanks its running now..
[10:28] <astro76> veni, as long as you still have ubuntu-desktop package installed, yes you would get new stuff on the cd, basically
[10:28] <soldats> in terminal
[10:28] <veni> astro76, could u tell me a bit clearer
[10:28] <kane77> soldats, not actually free space.. I mean it failed to mount...
[10:29] <astro76> veni, I'm not quite sure what is the question
[10:29] <soldats> oh sorry i misread what exactly happened
[10:30] <astro76> veni, the entire system will be upgraded to gutsy
[10:30] <bullgard4> When having Freenode, how can one put to good use OFTC in addition?
[10:30] <kane77> soldats, it failed to mount and even bios didn't see the harddrive.. so I'm kind of worried about it's health and want to find more about it...
[10:31] <idiosync> would you know how much it has too download to gutsy Gb..?
[10:31] <astro76> veni, and ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage which refers to the base desktop install, so you would also get any new programs which are added to the base install, which is what the livecd is
[10:31] <soldats> kane77, is it plugged in correctly
[10:31] <rosen> i cant install that driver
[10:31] <kane77> soldats, well I turned off the computer and pluged it out and back in and now it mounted ok...
[10:31] <rosen> please help me
[10:32] <soldats> kane77, so it works now?
[10:32] <kane77> soldats, yes
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> bullgard4: As in adding another server to your IRC client?
[10:32] <soldats> kane77, awesome im glad
[10:32] <kane77> soldats, me too :)
[10:33] <kane77> and that teaches me a point - BACKUP :P
[10:33] <rosen> Please help me install Nvidia drivers i just cant do it and i have a headache from this resolution ... aaa
[10:34] <bullgard4> MilhousePunkRock: OFTC is no server. OFTC is a network.
[10:34] <carlesoriol> does anybody know if hardy alfa is available?
[10:35] <astro76> carlesoriol, looking at the topic of #ubuntu+1 ... no
[10:35] <soldats> rosen, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:35] <Ranpha1> Can somebody help me with fireholl i want to redirect a port 99 to internal ipadres XX.XX.XX.XX , which commandline do i need to put into firehol.conf?
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> bullgard4: Well, I have it here, but I use Konversation...
[10:36] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: IF i am uploading i basically ought to have incoming connections dont i?
[10:36] <carlesoriol> astro76: ok. Thanks
[10:36] <DestroyerTZ> Hey guys, I'm trying to run Ubuntu 7.10 from a CD I just burned.  When I pop it into my computer, I get the start screen and I select "Start or Install from Disk".  After the loading screen, I'm greeted with a Username/Password screen...but I don't know or ever gave it a Name or Password.
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Yes, the peers send requests
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Double check your port forwarding, it was a hair-pulling process on my crappy router...
[10:36] <fx|RabBi1> then i dont get why that triangle in the left lower corner wont disappear-.-
[10:37] <bullgard4> carlesoriol: You can ask this question in #ubuntu+1 and will get a more competent answer there than here.
[10:37] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock:  i done that 50000 times no chance to do something wrong there...
[10:37] <fx|RabBi1> GOSH! ccant it just work????
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: What port do you use? Maybe it's blocked by your ISP if it's a default port (like 6881 or so)
[10:38] <astro76> fx|RabBi1, fyi, just because you are uploading doesn't mean ports are forwarded
[10:38] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: originally 6472
[10:38] <fx|RabBi1> now on 6881 again
[10:38] <umop> DOes anyone know a good torrent client that can shcedule downlaods?
[10:38] <fx|RabBi1> astro76: so how can one connect to me if not so?
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Pick someting unassigned above 50000
[10:39] <astro76> fx|RabBi1, you can establish the connection first, e.g. downloading
[10:39] <fx|RabBi1> astro76: i see
[10:39] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: my provider dont shape it works on windows...
[10:39] <Parsi> how to remove "hidden" attrib of file in terminal?
[10:39] <astro76> Parsi, a file is hidden if the name starts with .
[10:40] <umop> Parsi, it's just hidden because of the '.' in front
[10:40] <astro76> Parsi, what file?
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Do you have static IPs? Make sure the port is forwarded to the correct machine
[10:40] <umop> lol
[10:40] <soldats> Parsi, rename without a "."
[10:40] <umop> soldat lawl
[10:40] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: i got 70K downstream 2k upstream
[10:40] <umop> Parsi, it's just hidden because of the '.' in front
[10:40] <umop> oops
[10:40] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: yep static
[10:40] <umop> DOes anyone know a good torrent client that can shcedule downlaods?
[10:40] <stefg> !torrent
[10:40] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[10:40] <Parsi> it is superhiddein in windows
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Check if it's open here: http://www.canyouseeme.org/
[10:41] <Parsi> and i can't make it visible!
[10:41] <gRntLINUX> Hey all I was wondering if anyone here used the RSS Feed feature in torrentflux
[10:41] <astro76> Parsi, I could understand that if I knew what "superhiddein" meant
[10:41] <Parsi> it's a type of hidden
[10:42] <soldats> Parsi, use a gui file manager and view hidden files and rename the folder without the "."
[10:43] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: freaky shit! its NOT!
[10:43] <fx|RabBi1> how can that be???
[10:43] <kane77> how can I backup my /home onto a dvd?
[10:43] <anterasia_childr> any body online?
[10:43] <stefg> !backup | kane77
[10:43] <ubotu> kane77: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:43] <umop> thanks you sir
[10:43] <anterasia_childr> hey people
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: I told you it's tedious... On my router I have a setting for firewall and for NAT, so basically I to forward ports I have to edit both of them accordingly
[10:44] <umop> Can someone who uses deluge please tell me why it would ccrash when i added the scheduler addon?
[10:44] <fx|RabBi1> ya well i did so
[10:44] <fx|RabBi1> i dunno what esle to do
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: If your router has it, start with UPnP and see if that works...
[10:44] <fx|RabBi1> port is forwarded
[10:44] <fx|RabBi1> log says its blocked
[10:44] <fx|RabBi1> wtf???
[10:45] <Smegzor> What is the linux equivalent of the Windows sysinfo program?
[10:45] <stefg> umop: BTW using the 'at' command or crontab you can schedule any action on a linux box if you know console commands. so you can use any torrent client that can autostart transfers and start it at a given time via crontab
[10:45] <soldats> umop, use ktorrent instead
[10:45] <Smegzor> I want to confirm that I am running Ubuntu 64
[10:46] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: i dont know if my router has it as i said its a ubunut gutsy router with firestarte as gui to iptables...
[10:46] <stefg> !version | Smegzor
[10:46] <ubotu> Smegzor: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[10:47] <umop> stefg, yeah i am using cron atm, but it's kinda annoying, the whole system of adding the torrents etc
[10:47] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: and i get tons of connects to 27096 what would that be??
[10:47] <umop> soldats, i'll give ktorrent a god..
[10:47] <umop> *go
[10:47] <rosen> How can i install Nvidia Drivers for Ubuntu 5.04 ?? I get an error - Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel
[10:47] <Smegzor> that doesn't tell me if its the 32 or the 64 bit version
[10:47] <soldats> rosen, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[10:47] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: 27096 and thats udp??
[10:48] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Hmm...
[10:48] <Smegzor> Its supposed to be 64 bit but I installed 4 gigs (the mobo is an Intel) and the system is reporting only ~3.5 gigs total.
[10:49] <stefg> umop: a lot of clients can scan a defined dir for new torrents on a regular basis and add them to the queue. so you can fill up that dir when you stumble upon an interesting torrent, and just have a cron job to start the client at night (which will then read the accumulated torrents and enqueue them)
[10:49] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: i forwarded 27096 too and now it works-.-
[10:49] <fx|RabBi1> didnt see that one anywhere in options...
[10:49] <umop> stefg, that sounds perfect, what I want.
[10:50] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: That's for DHT I think...
[10:50] <Abu-Aadam> Is there a way to encrypy my hard drive so data can't be retrieved by copying the disk?
[10:50] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: whats that?
[10:50] <umop> stefg, what client will do that? (one you use?)
[10:50] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: yes use dm-crypt
[10:50] <Smegzor> Is it normal for Intel to not use all 4 gigs even with a 64 bit OS?
[10:50] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Distributed hash table (?) To get more peers from other peers, not from the tracker
[10:50] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: i see
[10:50] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi, will forensic people be able to get data from it
[10:50] <fx|RabBi1> phunny though...
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Look into the general settings, is the port you mentioned there?
[10:51] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: depends on the cypher u use basically its a 2048 bit encryption so the answer is maybe in a hundred years
[10:51] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: nope deffinitely NOT its 4444 in there
[10:52] <stefg> umop: i use azureus. that's a heavy bastard, but i have a dedicated box for torrent/ftp/file transfer, so it doesn't matter. check the feature list of the clients mentioned earlier by ubotu, it's a pretty widespread feature
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: And the UDP tracker port in "Downloads"?
[10:52] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi, thats good
[10:52] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: umm sry that one would be 4444
[10:53] <umop> stefg, ok fair enough, i was avoiding azerus for that reason even though i have a similar setup to you, thanks
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Basically KTorrent needs three ports, all of which have to be forwarded
[10:53] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: DHT was disabled
[10:53] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: k, im starting to get it , yust opened dht on 6882
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: I'd say, stay away from the default ports, some trackers block them... Those are 688* IIRC
[10:54] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: anyways my download is floating between 60 and 100K now...
[10:55] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: OOOHHHHH i see!
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Not too bad, depending on your line speed and the torrent itself, I guess... Yellow triangle still there?
[10:55] <fx|RabBi1> aaaw yeah that makews perfectly sense
[10:55] <fx|RabBi1> nope traingle gone
[10:55] <fx|RabBi1> line speed 192KB up/ 3200KB down
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Mission accomplished...
[10:55] <fx|RabBi1> meaning 1536kb up / 25600kb down
[10:56] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: yeah thx alot dude!
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: In return, you could help me make my sound survive hibernate/suspend ;)
[10:56] <fx|RabBi1> yet still speed sucks gg
[10:56] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: hahaha im afraid i am very weak on that, see i dont manage to get my headset's mic working atm...
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Grab the torrent for the windows version of Open Office, that should max out your speed...
[10:57] <fx|RabBi1> hmmm
[10:57] <fx|RabBi1> nice idea...
[10:57] <fx|RabBi1> ill report back, jiust a  mom
[10:57] <bullgard4> What is the function of the loaded module 'video'?  modinfo: "ACPI Video Driver."
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: It's probably the fastest torrent out there... Any *ubuntu torrent should be fast too
[10:59] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: atm going down with some 50k -.-
[10:59] <Traveler> hi all. can anyone help a newbie setup his wireless card? been tryin all mirning...
[10:59] <fx|RabBi1> veeeery strange...
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: Depends on the torrent a lot
[11:00] <aricz> fx|rabbi1.. speedtest.net
[11:00] <Traveler> *morning
[11:00] <fx|RabBi1> as you recommended: oo.exe
[11:00] <aricz> see if you get what your isp is supposed to give you :)
[11:00] <stefg> !wifi | Traveler
[11:00] <ubotu> Traveler: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: And did you set up max connections and such according to your line? The wiki of azureus has pretty good info on that
[11:00] <fx|RabBi1> aricz: tha wont work if its on the other side of the planet;)
[11:00] <aricz> testservers everywhere
[11:00] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: yes i did!
[11:01] <Traveler> i tried everything but cant get this to work. its a wusb54gs 2.1
[11:01] <aricz> you get a map with servers near you.. and you just click on the one nearest.. tada
[11:01] <aricz> :]
[11:01] <Traveler> followed ubuntu forum
[11:01] <Traveler> it didnt work
[11:01] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: i deffinitely got some 100k limit in there somewhere...
[11:02] <Katari> I'm about running out of options here trying to install GG on a brand new rig: installer dies at formatting, tried several ubuntu versions, alternative says "failed to create file system", others freeze. Hard drive is new and clean
[11:02] <aricz> get your ass to speedtest.net and check if it's your line or not.. if you're getting 3Mbit then you'll doing something wrong with the torrentclient.. ports.. something.. or the torrent is just slow.. :)
[11:02] <Traveler> anyone? i mean i didnt expect goin to ubuntu to be easy but i could do with some help
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> fx|RabBi1: There probably are speedtest sites in Austria too... ;)
[11:03] <MilhousePunkRock> aricz: He is right, it won't give accurate results across the pond
[11:03] <aricz> speedtest.net has servers all over..
[11:03] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: hahahan1;)
[11:03] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: my provider offers one but i dunno if i should trust it XD
[11:03] <Traveler> lol guess is back to windows for me
[11:03] <Katari> Does anyone have ideas on how to get ubuntu to install when formatting dies? Is there a way for me to preformat it (gparted) and install on top of that? Or on the top of another distro?
[11:03] <Traveler> :(
[11:04] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: do you think encrypting hard drive would be enough protection from forensics or should I do other security measures
[11:04] <umop> Ok, Cya
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Katari: Yes, you can use partitions that are already there, IIRC, the GPartEd LiveCD is my method of choice
[11:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Abu-Aadam: Are you seeking assistance for something possibly illegal?
[11:04] <jxxt> Traveler, I cannot really help you but wifi can be a real pia with linux. The forums are a bit slower but usually your best option. Alt keep asking here every few hours as the population changes
[11:05] <Abu-Aadam> MilhousePunkRock: no I am just doing it for fun, feels like james bond ^_^
[11:05] <Traveler> the forums do work but i followed instructions and cant get it to work
[11:05] <Traveler> i mean if only i could get online
[11:05] <Katari> MilhousePunkRock: that's probably what I will have to do, or do you have any other ideas on what could cause the install formatting to freeze/abort?
[11:06] <Traveler> im using someone elses pc now
[11:06] <Traveler> its catch 22
[11:06] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: you should lock your screen when you leave the computer;9
[11:06] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: what criminal activity are you into??
[11:06] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: I had my laptop seized because I sent my ex mother in law an email calling her something
[11:07] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: that was a while ago
[11:07] <jxxt> Traveler, Maybe joining a local lug will help you
[11:07] <stefg> Traveler: your device is somewhat tricky to set up on linux. you might consider just buying a more compatible adapter
[11:07] <Gatestone> How can make the desktop session to end Firefox so that it does not complain?
[11:08] <Gatestone> I mean every time restarting Firefox says it did not finish properly.
[11:08] <Katari> And alternatively, is there any way I can get more data about what goes wrong and file a proper bug report? I get absolutely no helpful messages at all from any ubuntu version when it dies during formatting
[11:09] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: hahahahaha i see
[11:09] <fx|RabBi1> n1
[11:09] <stefg> Traveler: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=225206&highlight=wusb54gs+2.1
[11:09] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: I didn't see my son for a year because she took him away
[11:09] <Kragnerac> wii
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Katari: You're on the safe side doing the partitioning before the installation...
[11:10] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: biaatch
[11:10] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: so keep on calling ehr
[11:10] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: why does she do that? did you slap her arround or what?
[11:11] <stefg> !offtopic
[11:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:11] <brobostigon> hi, good morning
[11:11] <fx|RabBi1> ou someone takes it veeery seriously here...
[11:11] <Paddy_EIRE> fx|RabBi1, keep offtopic things in the offtopic channel
[11:12] <fx|RabBi1> omfg two sentences and channel police triggers can it be???
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> !coc | fx|RabBi1
[11:12] <ubotu> fx|RabBi1: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:12] <fx|RabBi1> gosh calm down m8!!!!
[11:13] <stefg> fx|RabBi1: in a channel with 1128 users theres some discipline needed to keep up any usefulness. So be a good citizen and and behave grown up, k ?
[11:14] <fx|RabBi1> stefg:  i have been continuing the chat in a query for some minutes now so if channel police would stop bothering we would be through with tha by now
[11:15] <chrissss> when i login to ubuntu i hear the login sound and after that i have no sound at all, and when i try to play anything from any player the player hangs, but when i boot in recovery mode>startx the sound works fine, can anyone help me?
[11:15] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: I am running this command sudo dd of=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
[11:15] <Abu-Aadam>  should the Hard drive LED be flashing?
[11:15] <stefg> chrissss: what does 'aplay -l' tell ?
[11:16] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: i am not familiar with that command what precisely are you trying to do?
[11:16] <chrissss> i havent tried aplay -l , but aplay "sound.wav" also hangs(i run windows now)
[11:16] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: it fills hard drive with random data
[11:16] <fx|RabBi1> lol
[11:16] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: it was supposed to be if for the first of
[11:16] <fx|RabBi1> dont that answer you question already?
[11:17] <stefg> Abu-Aadam: you are nuking your disk ATM, so yes, the LED flashes b/c your disk gets overwritten with random numbers
[11:17] <fx|RabBi1> nuking XD
[11:17] <Abu-Aadam> Yes I thought so, I was wondering why not working but resolved
[11:18] <fx|RabBi1> MilhousePunkRock: that hint of yours concerning ports was wonderful now i am at 140K straight
[11:20] <mikebeecham> does anyone know anything about virtualbox? I have tried posting in the vbox channel, but no-one is responding
[11:21] <brobostigon> mikebeecham: sorry i dont know anything about vbox, i have a mac and cant run vbox.
[11:21] <mikebeecham> brobostigon: thanks for responding though :(
[11:21] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: you have trouble running it?
[11:22] <mikebeecham> firebirdy: I'm having problems installing it
[11:22] <rap1d> mikebeecham: whats the problem?
[11:22] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: have you nuked you os already?
[11:22] <stefg> !virtualbox
[11:22] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[11:22] <mikebeecham> firebirdy: I installed it from synaptics, and when I start my VM it gives me a kernal erro rap1d
[11:22] <brobostigon> mikebeecham, can it be installed using apt-get install??
[11:23] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: it may take a while
[11:23] <firebirdy> brobostigon: yes it can
[11:23] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: does it say something about permissions?
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Abu-Aadam, if its in the repos it can be apt'd
[11:24] <Abu-Aadam> Paddy_EIRE: what's this
[11:24] <mikebeecham> firebirdy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46423/
[11:24] <mikebeecham> rap1d: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46423/
[11:25] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: it's a well-known error :) just run this: 'sudo gpasswd -a my_username vboxusers' where my_username is your username
[11:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Abu-Aadam, if you can see the application in synaptic then you can apt-get it :)
[11:25] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: you'll have to login again after that
[11:25] <Paddy_EIRE> basically
[11:26] <mikebeecham> firebirdy: log into nix?
[11:26] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: sda0 isnt that the hdd where you got your linux installed? if so you are killing your operating system!
[11:26] <mikebeecham> ok...brb
[11:26] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: after you used that command, log out and log in again in ubuntu
[11:26] <stefg> mikebeecham: run 'sudo adduser <your username>  vboxusers' log out, log in again and try again
[11:27] <firebirdy> he left :)
[11:27] <firebirdy> it was all nicely in the wiki anyway...
[11:27] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: when I run the command on that drive i did the incorrect command, I redid the correct one so it's alright
[11:27] <fx|RabBi1> oh i see :]
[11:28] <Laney> Is there a list of confirmed working hardware (on amd64) anywhere? Specifically printers...
[11:28] <stefg> !printers
[11:28] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:28] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: I don't mind nuking my os though theres nothing mission critical here
[11:28] <joycetick> what would the debian version of /sbin/chckconfig --add <service> be?
[11:28] <astro76> joycetick, update-rc.d
[11:28] <Laney> Thanks, stefg
[11:29] <stefg> !upstart, joycetick , kkep in mind ubuntu uses
[11:29] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: ok, but its work to set it up again:)
[11:29] <stefg> !upstart | joycetick , kkep in mind ubuntu uses
[11:29] <ubotu> joycetick , kkep in mind ubuntu uses: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:30] <fx|RabBi1> Abu-Aadam: query?
[11:30] <Abu-Aadam> fx|RabBi1: well it's not gentoo atleast ^_^
[11:30] <fx|RabBi1> hehe
[11:30] <joycetick> astro76: whats the syntax for it, update-rc.d add <service> or something?
[11:30] <fx|RabBi1> stefg: that virtualbox puel version does that have a date of exiry?
[11:30] <mikebeecham> firebirdy: I'm getting a new error message now: The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[11:30] <fx|RabBi1> expiry even
[11:31] <astro76> joycetick, you should just check man update-rc.d, there's a bunch of examples in there too
[11:31] <stefg> fx|RabBi1: i don't use vbox, but an OSS app never expires
[11:31] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: did you run the command in a terminal and log in again? that error should've been solved...
[11:31] <joycetick> astro76: ok il check that out, thanks
[11:32] <mikebeecham> what command  firebirdy?
[11:32] <fx|RabBi1> stefg: thats the point there is an open source version but that one doesnt support usb
[11:32] <fx|RabBi1> and a personlause /ecvluation version
[11:32] <mikebeecham> I restarted Ubuntu, thats all
[11:32] <fx|RabBi1> so im planning to use it peronally...
[11:32] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: you missed a message then :) -- it's a well-known error :) just run this: 'sudo gpasswd -a my_username vboxusers' where my_username is your username
[11:33] <whabo> hi can any1 recomend a good free to use firewall??? PLZ
[11:33] <stefg> fx|RabBi1: i'm pretty much dependant on vmware (usb, networking, server console), so i don't know much about vbox in particular
[11:33] <astro76> !firestarter | whabo
[11:33] <ubotu> whabo: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:33] <fx|RabBi1> whabo: firestarter
[11:33] <mikebeecham> brb
[11:33] <chuxxsss> I all I had a crash while using the update manager to update to 7.10 now it will not update at all...
[11:33] <encryptz> anyone have any luck getting dapper installed on a sparc? at the live cd boot prompt, i hit enter to install, it load the kernel then ramdisk, then "Illegal Instruction"
[11:34] <fx|RabBi1> stefg: thanx though
[11:34] <melz> Hi I am trying to install pidgin from getdeb.net, and I get an error "Dependency is not satisfiable: libpangol.0-0"  but I already have it installed, any ideas how to fix?
[11:34] <encryptz> then i'm left at an "ok" prompt. not sure what's going on
[11:34] <astro76> encryptz, IIRC only ubuntu server is available for sparc, and that is not a livecd
[11:35] <chazco> Anyone know how i can get the buttons on my Hauppage remote control (Nova-T USB stick) to work? Atm only the numbers, volume, arrows and power buttons work...
[11:35] <encryptz> astro76: yes. you're right. that's what i'm installing.
[11:35] <encryptz> i'm booting from cd
[11:35] <mikebeecham> firebirdy
[11:35] <mikebeecham> nice one
[11:35] <firebirdy> mikebeecham: glad that worked
[11:35] <astro76> encryptz, ok just making sure ;)
[11:35] <encryptz> astro76: any ideas why i'm seeing "Illegal Instruction"?
[11:36] <astro76> encryptz, no idea about linux on sparc, sorry
[11:36] <stefg> chazco: if lirc can't read other keys then it might be a firmware issue (so this means you're out of luck)
[11:36] <encryptz> ahh. so you just wanted to correct me about the live cd lexicon then. :)
[11:37] <mikebeecham> firebirdy: all this so that I can run Photoshop CS3 :(
[11:37] <astro76> encryptz, I wanted to ensure you didn't have the x86 livecd, actually
[11:37] <encryptz> anyone else install dapper on a sparc box before?
[11:38] <axz> Guys whats best solution to get 32bit firefox on my 64bit system
[11:38] <stefg> encryptz: i don't know about sparc, but an illegal instruction error looks pretty final ...:-(
[11:38] <encryptz> stefg: you would think. however, with the kernel and the ramdisk loading, then failing, that tells me that it's probably init
[11:39] <firebirdy> melz: are you running ubuntu 7.04 or higher? if so, you can install it using synaptic. I know, it's not the most up-to-date version...
[11:39] <encryptz> trying to think of the boot process here
[11:39] <todoM> hi which dc client is best tu use?? is anyone with segment downloading?? plz
[11:39] <stefg> encryptz: some bad module in initrd ?
[11:40] <chazco> stefg - showkeys shows codes when i press the buttons... but i have no idea where to go from there.... everything i've tried with lirc seems to fail (i've read it has issues in Gusty)
[11:40] <melz> firebirdy, ubuntu 7.10, yeah I just uninstalled the one from synaptic to install a newer version
[11:41] <encryptz> stefg: not sure
[11:41] <stefg> chazco: ah, ok, you already get the keys? good,  so you just need to assign them to some action...
[11:41] <encryptz> hard to tell without a decent terminal...
[11:41] <stefg> !sparc
[11:41] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[11:41] <encryptz> i'd like to see what's in dmesg
[11:41] <chazco> How? Tried to use the gnome keyboard shortcuts (and via gconf) with no look :(
[11:41] <stefg> ahhh!
[11:42] <stefg> !keytouch | chazco
[11:42] <ubotu> chazco: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[11:43] <chazco> Tried that as well i think... will have another look
[11:43] <chazco> When i push a button on the remote it generates 2-5 codes...
[11:44] <LastLemming> hi
[11:44] <LastLemming> anyone use freenx?
[11:45] <rap1d> anyone just left
[11:45] <LastLemming> there is no freenx repository fors gusty?
[11:45] <LastLemming> I can find it
[11:45] <LastLemming> there is only for fesity
[11:45] <brobostigon> lastlemming: havve you looked at packages.ubuntu.com??
[11:45] <pcdog> LastLemming
[11:45] <pcdog> there is a thread on ubuntuforums.org
[11:45] <pcdog> where  a guy has linked deb packages
[11:46] <pcdog> for x86 and x64
[11:46] <LastLemming> deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas all
[11:46] <LastLemming> there is for feisty too
[11:46] <estefa> ola
[11:46] <LastLemming> but no gusty
[11:47] <estefa> ola?
[11:47] <estefa> eeee
[11:47] <estefa> en español
[11:47] <estefa> please
[11:47] <LastLemming> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:47] <brobostigon> LastLemming: packages.ubuntu.com.
[11:47] <astro76> !es | estefa
[11:47] <ubotu> estefa: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[11:47] <estefa> gracias
[11:48] <LastLemming> brobostigon, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is only ubuntu ones?
[11:48] <brobostigon> yyep
[11:48] <tchmnkyz> hey all, looking for some way to increase the number of file descriptors i set fs.file-max but it dont seem to help... i dont know why either... dovecot is still telling me that there is too many open files. anyone got a suggestion?
[11:48] <LastLemming> for old ones they need other repossitory for freenx
[11:49] <LastLemming> all how to for freenx is for feisty repository
[11:49] <LastLemming> all howto I found from google
[11:50] <tchmnkyz> anyone?
[11:50] <narayan> how to upload videos on ipod
[11:50] <narayan> i tried up with gtkpod-aac
[11:50] <narayan> but it is not uploading what to do
[11:51] <volk> I have a problem - when I try to run gtick, it complains that it cannot access /dev/dsp (device or resource busy). I'm thinking that maybe this is due to the fact that it is trying to access the device directly and not through alsa. Does any one know how to make it work?
[11:51] <jimcooncat_> I need some python help but /join #python doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?
[11:52] <BaroneRosso> !list
[11:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:52] <narayan> plz anyone help to finish my task
[11:54] <gRntLINUX> Hey all if I have a file on this ubuntu server how do I then move the file from there onto a windows machine via the internet
[11:54] <gRntLINUX> or similarly how can I search to it on windows and move it accordingly
[11:54] <volk> gRntLINUX, start ssh server on your ubuntu box and then use winscp to copy the file
[11:54] <Howto> I am using ubuntu 7.1 pls suggest me one audio and video player
[11:54] <ce_cute> hi
[11:55] <encryptz> hardware issue. i guess it doesn't like my firewire card
[11:55] <brobostigon> howto: vlc
[11:55] <narayan> how to upload videos on ipod please suggest some ideas
[11:55] <Howto> brobo: pls tell me how to install vlc
[11:55] <gRntLINUX> volk I am currently logged in via putty so I have ssh enabled, to use winscp do I just go sudo apt-get install winscp and go from there?
[11:55] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:55] <Howto> thank u bro
[11:55] <tchmnkyz> please someone
[11:56] <volk> gRntLINUX, no you download winscp on your windows machine and then connect to your server and copy over the file to your windows machine. I guess that is what you are trying to do
[11:56] <narayan> how to play videos on ipod
[11:56] <Howto> bro; E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:56] <Howto> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:56] <Howto>  error is showing like above
[11:56] <gRntLINUX> volk: yes that would be the easiest thankyou, I'll see how that goes for me
[11:57] <brobostigon> sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:57] <brobostigon> it will ask for your password
[11:57] <astro76> Howto, close synaptic or add/remove or update manager
[11:57] <Howto> s, i am given
[11:57] <gRntLINUX> volk: that just appears to be an FTP?
[11:57] <chuxxsss> How do I fix a update manager when it crashes when asked to update to gutsy
[11:57] <Jefo> hey, how can i get amarok to play mp3s?
[11:58] <Howto> okay thank u bro
[11:58] <Jefo> it works in all other apps
[11:58] <volk> gRntLINUX, yes it's like ftp.. except secure :)
[11:58] <volk> gRntLINUX, scp transfers files over ssh protocol
[11:58] <gRntLINUX> Ahh
[11:59] <narayan> how to play videos on ipod please
[11:59] <LLed> Jefo maybe reinstall the mp3 codecs? had the same problem once
[11:59] <gRntLINUX> Since I installed torrentflux on this machine the torrents I have seem to be going slow I hope its just the torrent and not the software
[11:59] <LLed> should have already worked though
[12:01] <Howto> bro:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:01] <Howto>   vlc: Depends: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed
[12:01] <Howto>        Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.5) but it is not installable
[12:01] <Howto>        Depends: ttf-dejavu but it is not installable
[12:01] <Howto> E: Broken packages
[12:01] <adnarim> hi
[12:01] <Jefo> LLed: how can i reinstall them?
[12:03] <adnarim> Does someone know if it's possible to start a single app which shall ignore the choosen gtk-theme?
[12:04] <thani> hey any one know that how to delete command history only in current shell  ?
[12:05] <gRntLINUX> Thanks volk that seems to be working fine.
[12:05] <user1> if I have 2 sound cards, how to tell alsa to use one of them as defaut
[12:06] <volk> gRntLINUX, you're wellcome
[12:06] <_Dbug_> Hi. I have a question about GRUB: Is it possible to configure it so by default it will run the last selected option ? If i'm doing some Linux stuff I want to restart on Linux, but if I'm rebooting Windows after installing a driver or something, i'd like to reboot by default on Windows. Is this possible ?
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> _Dbug_: i don't think so..., is it that difficult to select one of the menu options?
[12:07] <gRntLINUX> Actually while I'm here (god I hate being new to all of this) Whats the best method of getting RSS feeds for ubuntu torrentflux
[12:07] <IndyGunFreak> !rss | gRntLINUX
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <_Dbug_> IndyGunFreak, just that it means you have to stay on the computer during all the shut-down, bios init, drive detection, boot detection process. Sounds suboptimal no ?
[12:07] <IndyGunFreak> i thought that was a bot signal, guess not.
[12:08] <IndyGunFreak> _Dbug_: huh?... if yu're installing drivers, updating, etc, and it causes you to restart, aren't you going to at least let the system boot up to make sure its working?
[12:08] <Kr0ntab> thani, history -c
[12:09] <_Dbug_> IndyGunFreak, of course I do test, but during the 2 minutes break I assume I can go fetch something in the fridge, do a phone call, go to the toilets, read the news paper, instead of having to stay in front of the computer being attentive not missing the few seconds for selecting the option.
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> _Dbug_: well, if you only have a few seconds, perhaps you could change your menu.lst to give you more time or something, i really don't know.
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> i've got mine set for 30sec and it works fine.
[12:10] <_Dbug_> Ok
[12:11] <IndyGunFreak> _Dbug_: is that the issue, having to hit esc in like 3sec to get the grub menu, or you go right back to windows?
[12:11] <gRntLINUX> volk:  I used the move function in winscp to move a file from the linux server to windows. It copied it but couldnt delete it and it threw an error, are files copy protected by default?
[12:12] <gauteh> gRntLINUX: it is probably opened by some program
[12:12] <gauteh> gRntLINUX: try killing/closing all programs that could use the file, including explorer some times and restart
[12:12] <_Dbug_> IndyGunFreak, no, the issue is just that it always starts Linux by default. Even my Atari MegaSTE using XBoot remembers the last used configuration by default, instead of booting on the first one. I'm just surprised that it was not available. I guess I can still patch GRUB at some point to get that to work :)
[12:12] <gauteh> gRntLINUX: if not then the file might be damaged and you might need to run chkdsk or something
[12:13] <Micheru> hello all, i just installed ubuntu, but grub isn't picking up my windows install, i used the live cd, used manual to wipe out a 20 gb partition and make a 15.5 gig root partition and a 500mb swap. the windows install is still intact. how would i get windows (media center) in the boot list?
[12:13] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: explain your partition set up
[12:14] <Smegzor> When I boot into failsafe mode, I see lots of messages during bootup followed by the login screen, but if I boot normally, I get no video signal immediately after grub right until the login screen appears.  Why is this and how do I make it show me the boot up messages?  I just had my first 30 mount forced check and my screen was blank for 30 minutes! :|
[12:14] <Micheru> ok on 1 hard drive i have a ~50 windows partition and a 15.5 linux and a 500mb swap, is there anything else you need?
[12:15] <IndyGunFreak> well, sorta, but try this.., hold on.
[12:15] <Micheru> ok
[12:15] <Micheru> the device is hdc, dunno the partition numbers
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok, is it windows XP?
[12:16] <Micheru> media center
[12:16] <Patchak> hi I would like to install a full web server onmy ubuntu install,  any application that does it all for me or I need to install each pieces separate;y??
[12:16] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: XP media center, or Vista?
[12:16] <Micheru> xp
[12:17] <IdleOne> !lamp | Patchak
[12:17] <ubotu> Patchak: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok, open a terminal
[12:17] <Micheru> done
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: now type this..   sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> then enter your password
[12:18] <Micheru> command not found gksudo gedit?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: sorry, that command is wrong.... sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:18] <Ballena> How do I share files between a Mac and a Linux system in a local network?
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> got a little overszealous there.
[12:18] <Micheru> no problem
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> is your grub menu.lst open?
[12:18] <Micheru> ok i am in
[12:18] <Micheru> yes
[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> scroll to the bottom
[12:19] <Smegzor> So is there a way to get a verbose bootup instead of the current blank screen of DOOM bootup?
[12:19] <Micheru> yeah
[12:19] <symtab> hello
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: go to this link, and add those 5 lines to the bottom.   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46427/
[12:19] <symtab> anyone that knows how to exclude some packages when running apt-get upgrade, but i want to exclude from a configuration file not every time i run apt-get upgrade
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: not including the numbers of course.
[12:19] <user1> I installed ubuntu 7.04  how to upgrade to 7.10
[12:19] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: ok doing
[12:19] <Abu-Aadam> I am running this  sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
[12:19] <Abu-Aadam>  is it going to nuke my OS?
[12:20] <Tuplanolla> Smegzor: the key word is "usplash". google for "how to remove usplash ubuntu"
[12:20] <Abu-Aadam> because things aren't working
[12:20] <user1> Abu-Aadam: are you crazy?
[12:20] <Smegzor> thanks
[12:20] <digitori> Ballena: on your task bar you will see a little computer icon on the left click it and then click remote places
[12:20] <IdleOne> !upgrade | user1
[12:20] <ubotu> user1: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:20] <Patchak> IdleOne, I tries to install LAMP like in the instructions on the ubuntu help page, and the debian package instaler actually erased more than 400 packages, I had t reformat...
[12:20] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: done
[12:20] <Abu-Aadam> user1: that answers my question thankyou
[12:20] <Micheru> reboot?
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: save the file, restart, and select XP from your grub list, and see if it works
[12:21] <Micheru> ok i will see you soon either way
[12:21] <Ballena> digitori: in Ubuntu you mean?
[12:21] <digitori> yes?
[12:21] <Abu-Aadam> user1: should I reinstall it now?
[12:21] <Ballena> ok
[12:21] <user1> Abu-Aadam: no need to nuke before reinstdall usually
[12:22] <Abu-Aadam> user1: I'v already been running it for 40 minutes. Will it be done yet? And will all my files be messed up?
[12:22] <user1> Abu-Aadam: it is very slow
[12:22] <user1> Abu-Aadam: /dev/zero is faster
[12:22] <digitori> Ballena: Sorry I should have asked if you use ubuntu or kubuntu
[12:23] <Abu-Aadam> user1: I'm trying to fill it with random data
[12:23] <Smegzor> I'm not sure usplash is going to cure my total loss of video signal between grub and login.
[12:23] <Micheru> no luck
[12:23] <user1> Abu-Aadam: what for
[12:24] <Abu-Aadam> user1: to make it impossible to determine how much data i'm actually trying to hide
[12:24] <Micheru> invalid or inexecutable  something
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: was it not in the list or it didn't boot windows?
[12:24] <Ballena> digitori: ok. But where do i find that "computer icon" Do you mean I should ope Nautuilius?
[12:24] <Nalleman> Hi, i Would like to set up a secondary screen, eg. use my TV with ubuntu. It works great on Windows but I don't seem to be able to enable "secondary screen" in ubuntu. Help someone?
[12:24] <Micheru> didn't boot
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[12:24] <digitori> Bellena you are using Ubuntu yes?
[12:24] <Ballena> yes
[12:24] <user1> Abu-Aadam:  you have child pron there do you
[12:24] <user1> Abu-Aadam:   shred  -n 1  /dev/something  will be fater then dd urandom
[12:24] <digitori> Ballena: no hang I will reboot into Ubuntu, help you from there ok?
[12:24] <Ballena> digitori: ok :)
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: any errors?
[12:25] <friendlysys> does dovecot use Maildir ?
[12:25] <digitori> ballena 1 minute.
[12:25] <Micheru> yeah
[12:25] <friendlysys> by default?
[12:25] <Micheru> "invalid or inexecutable  "
[12:25] <Micheru> was in it
[12:25] <Smegzor> yay!  I installed the startup manager (or I think I did).  It has a tick box to show text during bootup :D
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: strange, it sounds like we have a similar setup, adding those 5 lines to grub made XP boot fine for me.
[12:26] <Micheru> is it possible that the partitiion was made unbootable by thr partition editor??
[12:26] <Abu-Aadam> user1: what I was initially asking is if  sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
[12:26] <Abu-Aadam>  will destroy my files or not?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: pretty unlikely
[12:27] <Ballena> digitori: on Ubuntu now?
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | Micheru go here and paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:27] <ubotu> Micheru go here and paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:27] <digitori> yeah one sec
[12:27] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: will do
[12:27] <Ballena> ok
[12:27] <franz__> [installation]  im trying to install (k)ubuntu in my friend's machine, and it's hanging in the 'Configuring Network" part
[12:27] <franz__> & i don't even know how to debug it
[12:27] <user1> Abu-Aadam: yes it will destroy all files etc on /dev/sda, that is on first SATA driver connected
[12:28] <Micheru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46428/
[12:28] <Abu-Aadam> user1: ok
[12:28] <digitori> Ballena: on your taskbar you see Places?
[12:28] <Ballena> digitori: yes
[12:28] <digitori> Ballena: click this then click network
[12:28] <user1> why ubuntu distro names are so ghay?
[12:29] <user1> *releases
[12:29] <Ballena> digitori:  i may answer after a while. typing this on the mac but my PC is in the same room
[12:29] <IdleOne> !ohmy | user1
[12:29] <ubotu> user1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:29] <Ballena> digitori:  ok
[12:29] <digitori> Ballena ok
[12:29] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: did you see it?
[12:29] <Ballena> digitori: there is a "Windows Network" icon in there
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: looking now.
[12:29] <digitori> ok click it
[12:30] <Abu-Aadam> user1: will most of my programs stay in memory before It finishes
[12:30] <digitori> Ballena: Click it
[12:30] <Ballena> digitori:  ok
[12:30] <digitori> Ballena: do you also have a windows machine on your network?
[12:30] <user1> Abu-Aadam: this is your only drive?
[12:31] <user1> Abu-Aadam: then you should use a livecd probably, otherwise system will stop working before finishing cleaning
[12:31] <Micheru> the partition for the windows install appears to be hdc5
[12:31] <Ballena> digitori: there I found a icon called "mshome" and it contained a icon with the same name as my Ubuntu syste,. Yes there a re several Windows computer in this network too.
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok...
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: hdc, is how linux sees the drive,
[12:31] <Abu-Aadam> user1: alright do I encrypt it from the live cd also>
[12:31] <digitori> Ballen: ah one sec
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: Grub sees drives as hd0, hd1, hd2, etc..
[12:31] <Ballena> digitori:  maybe I have to do somthing on my MAC to get Ubuntu to work with it?
[12:32] <Micheru> what about the partitions?
[12:32] <user1> Abu-Aadam: you have to have proper livecd, that supports used encryption mechanisms, usually it is easier to just encrypt 1 parition - for work documents etc
[12:32] <digitori> Ballena: This should help you http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2312p180id122932.htm
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: partitions same way, in your grub list, where it says (hd0,0).. the second number is the partition.. you can try changing it to 5
[12:32] <Abu-Aadam> user1: does the ubuntu cd support that
[12:32] <Ballena> digitori: ok thans :)
[12:32] <Micheru> ok will do
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: not sure how effective that will be though
[12:32] <Nalleman> please, can someone help me set up dualscreen? I dont have a clue.
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> !twinview | Nalleman
[12:33] <ubotu> Nalleman: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:33] <Micheru> rebooting
[12:33] <gRntLINUX> Does anyone know how to set up file permissions in torrentflux. I need to set chmod 777 to a folder but I have been told any files added after the chmod dont take the same permissions.
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok.
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: what tye of video card?
[12:33] <digitori> Ballena: your welcome
[12:34] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, intel 945"something"
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: good luck.
[12:34] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, ok?
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: i don't believe there's intel drivers for dual screen.. is this a dualhead card,
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> or two video cards, 1 onboard, one card, etc?
[12:35] <gRntLINUX> Does anyone know how to set up file permissions in torrentflux. I need to set chmod 777 to a folder but I have been told any files added after the chmod dont take the same permissions.
[12:35] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, i guess its one card. its in my laptop. it works great in Windows
[12:35] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: invalis device requested
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: because there's windows drivers
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok.
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: if there wasn't a windows driver, it wouldn't work in Windows either
[12:36] <Nalleman> IndyGunFreak, ok, but to be honest. You dont have a clue if it works in ubuntu.
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> gRntLINUX: setting 777 I thought that was a no no
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: well, i've got dual screens setup on my PC, and I've had intel graphics before,
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> Nalleman: and i know there's no drivers for it.
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> they run on the default vga drivers.
[12:37] <m13> hello
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> vesa
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning IndyGunFreak
[12:37] <Nalleman> Ok. Better hold on to windows then...
[12:37] <sioux> hi can you try if linuxtv.org is up?  here seema died
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: morning it is.
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: here anyhow.. :)
[12:37] <gRntLINUX> Jack_Sparrow: Mate told me that gave me read and write access to it
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> :)..
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: Sun is not up yet
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: here neither.
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> West coast here..
[12:38] <bullgard4> What is the function of the loaded module 'video'?  modinfo: "ACPI Video Driver."
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry for the offtopic people.
[12:38] <Micheru> i really need this fixed, do you have any more ideas?
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: i've not forgot you, still trying to figure this out.
[12:38] <Micheru> ok
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: any good with grub?
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Sometimes...  whats up
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: when you partitioned, did you put linux on the front side of the drive, or the backside?
[12:39] <mikebeecham> Someone with virtualbox experience....how come my resolution will only go as far as 1024 x 768?
[12:39] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: front, thats where the blank partition was
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: he installed Gutsy, didn't pick up his XP install, i added a pretty garden variety entry to grub, and its still not booting.
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ah.. thats prolly gonna be the issue.
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mikebeecham: that is the limit of vesa video driver.. start there.. no virt box experience here..
[12:40] <Micheru> the swap is between the linux and windows partition
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: no.. windows pisses and moans when its not first, IIRC.
[12:40] <sioux> who of you can check if linuxtv.oeg web site is up? here from it is unreacble
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: who...   start with fdisk -l  to see where it is
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> ya,
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> now see, fdisk -l does nothing for me.
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> ah, you need sudo.
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: try this, sudo fdisk -l   (note, thats a lowercase L)
[12:41] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: is there any way to move the windows partition, cause i don't have the install disks (it was a friends computer i have it while he is outta town and he accidentially packed the install disks)
[12:41] <Micheru> ok
[12:41] <sioux>  who of you can check if linuxtv.org web site is up? here from it is unreacble
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: did he post it yet?   sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt  will get it to his desktop
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: i just told him to.
[12:42] <Micheru> i will pastebin the output
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok.
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: I like this command line for maiking copy to the desktop with the date in the filename
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: never saw that one before, but its a good idea.
[12:43] <digitori> anyone know why this is in my network folder: dnssd-local-SFTP File Transfer on pc-00249._sftp-ssh._tcp.local
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> might as well do   cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/Desktop/menu.lst.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)   at the same time
[12:43] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46430/
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow:   here's his menu.lst   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46428/
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: ugh, he is mixing ide and sata drives too
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: lol
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: and hdc, you're sure thats the drive that has the Windows OS on it, right?..
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> fea, fat 32 on sda is probably storage as I see it
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i think so, but i just wanted to make sure.
[12:45] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: the only other drive is an external drive
[12:45] <digitori> anyone know why this is seen in my ubuntu network folder:   dnssd-local-SFTP File Transfer on pc-00249._sftp-ssh._tcp.local
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: oh ok, thats why its sda
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: i set his grub to look at hd0,5  seems to me it shoud work.
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> line    rootnoverify	(hd2,4)
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> remember they start at 0
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> 0 = 1
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> or first
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> right, but its the only drive int he system, the sda is external.
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, still not entirely awakre
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: did you see what Jack_Sparrowjust said?
[12:47] <Micheru> yeah i will give it a go
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok...
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> He cal also make a bunch of window entry combinations in that file and keep trying them
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> try hd2,4..
[12:48] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: done
[12:48] <jack> salve a tutti
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok, give it a whirl.
[12:48] <Micheru> rebooting again hehe
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, but i was thinking for sure it had to be hd0(first drive)
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: HIs drive is not setup correctly to begin with... it should be hda
[12:48] <IdleOne> if 0=1 ( first ) then 0+0=1 ( first & second )
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: ya, i know...
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> was just trying to get windows booted.
[12:49] <kondrix> How do i check if i have GTK 2.2.x installed ?
[12:49] <digitori> anyone know why this is seen in my ubuntu network folder:   dnssd-local-SFTP File Transfer on pc-00249._sftp-ssh._tcp.local
[12:49] <kondrix> GKT+ 2.2.x
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> i see what you;'re saying
[12:50] <Cibercrank> asdf
[12:50] <digitori> kondrix: open synaptic package manager and search...dont know a quicker way
[12:50] <bef> Goodnight Ubuntu
[12:50] <kondrix> digitori: if i happen to find it and it will be in older version, can i update some how?
[12:50] <tapas> ls
[12:50] <tapas> oops
[12:50] <tapas> hi
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> must not have worked
[12:51] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: nope
[12:51] <tapas> i once reverted my fstab to ordinary devcice names..
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[12:51] <Micheru> invalid device
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46432/
[12:51] <tapas> now i'd like to go back to using UUIDs bcause it is a superiour scheme i guess
[12:51] <Micheru> or whatever the wording is
[12:51] <tapas> being able to move HDs around etc..
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> tapas: easy enough
[12:51] <Winball> You cant run a 32bit app on a x64_version of ubuntu unless you create a chroot? Hopefully this will work on later releases
[12:51] <digitori> kondrix: if its older and installed try using update manager see if you get an update for it. if not you could search for a newer deb package on the net
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: lol,
[12:51] <tapas> is all that's required replacing the device strings with the UUID vol_id reports?
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> pretty much
[12:52] <sandro__> ciao prova
[12:52] <kondrix> digitori: thanks. By saying "try using update manager" you mean the update manager inside synaptic?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: i guess you could do what jack suggested, and remember which one works, then delete the others.
[12:52] <tapas> Jack_Sparrow: do i have to take special care of grub?
[12:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Dont trust me too much until I have my first cup of coffee
[12:52] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: what did jack suggest? i missed it
[12:52] <tapas> which atm works find atm although my boot hd moved from hda to hdb ;)
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46432/
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> tapas: you shouldnt no
[12:53] <tapas> and i still have to use (hd0,0) as root
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: go tot he very bottom.
[12:53] <fibbs> Hi folks
[12:53] <tapas> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[12:53] <fibbs> a question: how to configure the boot process that /etc/init.d/cryptdisks will be started?
[12:53] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: ok i will stick er in
[12:53] <tapas> hmm, the fstab manpage doesn't mention uuid's
[12:53] <tapas> i wonder what's the right format
[12:53] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: did you see the edit I made on that to test the XP drive
[12:53] <fibbs> is there some config where to activate it? Or how can i add it to the runlevel?
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: see how he added all those entries, just keep rebooting, till you get one that works, remember which one it is, then remove the ones tha tdon't work.
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: yeah.
[12:54] <digitori> kondrix: System > Administration > Update Manager
[12:54] <kartook> Question : i need to customize my ubuntu desktop to like MAC
[12:54] <kartook> hai jack
[12:54] <Micheru> ok here we go again
[12:54] <kondrix> digitori; oh, i have everything up to date there, still think my GTK+, whatever that is, is older version
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> tapas: sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda7                use your drive letter
[12:54] <chester_martins> Hi! anybody knows a tutorial that explain how define restrictions to a user in my pc?? sorry my bad english, i'm portuguese
[12:54] <chester_martins> :p
[12:54] <IdleOne> !themes | kartook
[12:54] <ubotu> kartook: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:54] <kondrix> digitori: older then i need, older then 2.2.x
[12:55] <Winball> Anybody know of reviews of gutsy on ps3?
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> kartook: look at gnome-look.org
[12:55] <digitori> kondrix: why do you need 2.2
[12:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[12:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[12:56] <tapas> now i just have to remember that the comand is called vol_id next time i migrate my root fs from one hd to another ;)
[12:56] <_wretched> beer belly!!!
[12:56] <kartook> Question : I am not able to view youtube videos in my Ubuntu
[12:56] <kartook> i am windows user
[12:57] <kartook> now i using ubuntu i love this
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> kartook: what versionof Ubuntu are you using?
[12:57] <IdleOne> !flash | kartook
[12:57] <ubotu> kartook: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:57] <tapas> can grub's device map handle UUID's too?
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> IdleOne: i bet he's using 64bit.
[12:57] <Jack_Sparrow> tapas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46433/ is example fstab
[12:57] <IdleOne> IndyGunFreak: if he is then !flash64 I believe
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> IdleOne: i know,
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> tapas: I dont know, but I dont think so
[12:58] <tapas> Jack_Sparrow: ok, UUID=... simple enough
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> i was just saying, i bet thats his issue.
[12:58] <IdleOne> yeah probably
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> kartook: are you using 32bit Ubuntu, or 64bit?
[12:58] <tapas> and cryptdisk?
[12:58] <digitori> kondrix: GTK+ is for creating graphical user interfaces
[12:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted | kartook
[12:58] <ubotu> kartook: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <Micheru> they all got an error
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> well that blows.
[12:59] <sioux> ! linuxtv
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxtv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: and you said you dont have an XP disk, correct?
[12:59] <OIM> hello to everyone
[12:59] <kartook> thanks dude
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> !hi
[12:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:59] <kartook> good respounce from all
[12:59] <michaellamothe> Hi everyone.
[12:59] <yakumo> hello pls help. i have to hd one is ide and the other is sata, install my windows vista in sata and i instal ubuntu in my ide, how do i set up grub to boot on my my vista
[12:59] <Micheru> 1. invalid or unsupported executable format 2,3,5 invalid device requested 4 selected disk does not exist
[12:59] <kartook> what a great mans and minds
[12:59] <kartook> hats off
[12:59] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: xp media center yes
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: so you have an xp media center CD?
[12:59] <OIM> ı have question
[12:59] <digitori> kondrix: if you are running ubuntu 7.10 you should already have the gtk2 engines
[13:00] <OIM> ubuntu-tr is offline
[13:00] <Micheru> no, my friend packed it by mistake when he left this computer with me
[13:00] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[13:00] <OIM> who must ı tell it to
[13:00] <IdleOne> !ask | OIM
[13:00] <IndyGunFreak> !ask
[13:00] <ubotu> OIM: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:00]  * IndyGunFreak stares at IdleOne
[13:01]  * IdleOne points at IndyGunFreak 
[13:01] <tapas> Jack_Sparrow: ah i can always use /dev/disk/by-uuid instead of the nromal device name
[13:01] <tapas> so i guess this fixes everythinjg:)
[13:01] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: part of the problem, is your partitions are a mess.
[13:01] <kondrix> digitori : i am instaling emifreq-applet and it requires GTK+ 2.2.x
[13:01] <kane77> OIM, ask in #ubuntu-irc
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> I hate to see people mixing ide and sata.. it seems to slow my machines way down
[13:02] <Micheru> well the ubuntu partition editor didn't leave me much choice
[13:02] <digitori> kondrix: what version ubuntu are you using
[13:02] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: i know.... its a Windows issue, not Ubuntu.
[13:02] <OIM> no not ırc
[13:02] <kondrix> digitori: gutsy, so its 7.10 i guess
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> OIM: Seems to work for me here
[13:02] <OIM> ubuntu-tr.com is offline
[13:02] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: hold on, i'll show you my df -l output
[13:02] <CZi_> where to get help on a pvr 1300 and mythtv?
[13:03] <digitori> kondrix: if you install emifreq_applet via synaptic it will take care of the dependancy for you
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> CZi_: mythtv has their own room
[13:03] <kondrix> digitori: i didnt know i can do it via synaptics
[13:03] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46434/
[13:03] <CZi_> Jack_Sparrow, thx
[13:04] <digitori> kondrix: open synaptic and search for emifreq
[13:04] <Micheru> looks much better than mine :/
[13:04] <Jack_Sparrow> np.. note it make take awhile to get answers, be patient
[13:04] <jack> salve
[13:04] <jack> avrei un problemino
[13:04] <digitori> kondrix: its there...and just tick box and click apply
[13:04] <jack> chi mi potrebbe aiutare?
[13:04] <IdleOne> .!it
[13:04] <IdleOne> !it
[13:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:04] <kondrix> digitori: crap, its in the synaptics to be found, but it was not in the "add/remove app"
[13:04] <Micheru> so basically all i can do is get him to mail me the xpmc cd and reinstall?
[13:04] <jack> tnx
[13:04] <digitori> kondrix: thats why i always use synaptic
[13:04] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: well, you could do that, but that would suck.
[13:05] <IdleOne> preggo
[13:05] <Micheru> IndyGunFreak: majorly
[13:05] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: hang on a sec....
[13:05] <Micheru> ok
[13:05] <digitori> kondrix: its not in add remove as its not part of the main install repos
[13:05] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: if he were to use a Gparted live Disk, and format all those partitions(except the main windows partition), could he then use Gparted to organize that drive properly?
[13:05] <digitori> kondrix: er i think
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: my fdiak -l        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46435/
[13:05] <IdleOne> Micheru: what you should do is reinstall ubuntu and have it format the entire disk removing windows and enjoy the freedom
[13:06] <digitori> kondrix: dont blow your CPU
[13:06] <kondrix> digitori; kinda strange there are 2 groups of programs to be installed, one in "start" menu and the other in syaptic. Kinda confusing
[13:06] <Micheru> IdleOne: not possible
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: do you think that would work?
[13:06] <Micheru> i have way to many things i do i nwindows i can't in linux
[13:07] <kondrix> digitori i want to keep it slow, working on laptop, and dont like the noise
[13:07] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: I would fdisk /mbr   fixmbr to get back to basic windows... then boot live and delete/clean up partitions.. add spare ext3 for his /home
[13:07] <Micheru> i gotta go to bed :/ i will come back in the morning
[13:07] <digitori> kondrix: why confusing? just use synaptic it wont do any harm with apps installed by add remove...they all show up in synaptic anyhow
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: ok, so we're on the same page.
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: lol, we were just figuring it out.
[13:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: You will learn other ways in here
[13:07] <kondrix> digitori thanks for help, i installed . Gtg, will check later if it worked. Do you use any instant messenger ?
[13:07] <loca|host> where's the Ubuntu bugreporting site ?
[13:07] <Laney> Is there any voodoo to getting rhythmbox notifications working? The checkbox is ticked...
[13:08] <digitori> kondrix: usually kopete for msn
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: just leave unallocated space for ubuntu and let the installer set it up for you.. better to not do it manually
[13:08] <Micheru> ok i can stay a little longer
[13:08] <kondrix> digitori give me your number or whatever, so i dont loose touch with you
[13:08] <digitori> kondrix: your welcome.....maybe not best but for messenger but my choice
[13:08] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: fdisk /mbr  that has to be ran from the terminal, correct?\
[13:08] <TimeTraveller> I am trying to compile gtk and having some problems... can anyone have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46436/
[13:08] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: well, this will take a while.
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: actually windows boot floppy
[13:08] <digitori> oneonezero10@hotmail.com
[13:09] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: thats what i thought
[13:09] <IdleOne> Micheru: funny you shouyld say that because I have way to many things I do in linux that I cant do in windows.
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: or xp cd
[13:09] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: do you have a windows boot floppy by chance?
[13:09] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: no xp cd.
[13:09] <Micheru> no...
[13:09] <digitori> kondrix: Im gonna be in here a lot anyhow
[13:09] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: I have an image of one if needed.. you can create it with linux to fix xp
[13:09] <kondrix> digitori: all right, double thanks to you then
[13:09] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: an image of a boot floppy?
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yep...
[13:10] <digitori> kondrix: your welcome
[13:10] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: there you go.
[13:10] <IndyGunFreak> you'd have to put it on a blank cd or something, but it should work.
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bootdisk.com has some too
[13:10] <digitori> Right maybe my turn anyomne help me out her...not my expertise  anyone know why this is seen in my ubuntu network folder:   dnssd-local-SFTP File Transfer on pc-00249._sftp-ssh._tcp.local
[13:10] <Micheru> i have never used a windows boot floppy, or any boot floppy for that mater
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: all you ahve tod o is when you get the DOS prompt, run fixboot and fixmbr
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: it will boot to DOS prompt and type that one line...  see restoring windows...
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[13:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> that will clear the master boot record, and boot you straight to windows.
[13:11] <Micheru> thats it?
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: right, i've done it before.
[13:11] <Micheru> then what? will grub be working corectly or is there more?
[13:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: makes it not even see that ubunt was there
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: no, there will be no grub.
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> it will boot like linux wasn't ever installed.
[13:12] <digitori> Ok guys will try again later, see ya, have a nice day!!
[13:12] <Micheru> so basically i reinstall linux?
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: that flushed ubuntu/grub from boot sector
[13:12] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: yes, but before you reinstall, you need to make some sense of those partitions.
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> and pull the sata out during the install
[13:12] <Micheru> i have no idea how to move a partition
[13:13] <Micheru> i only know the kill it all and start new approach
[13:13] <Micheru> probably why this failed
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: you won't have to move it.. becuawe you're going delete all those partitions that arent in use.
[13:13] <gRntLINUX> Is there a way to set a chmod lvl in a folder so any future files that go into it adopt the same chmod?
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> format them as ntfs, it will see your drive as one big drive.
[13:13] <Micheru> ??
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: what do you not understand?
[13:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: what was the link to your partition table again?
[13:14] <Micheru> why wouldn't  have several ntfs partitions?
[13:14] <Micheru> ill check my logs, if i turned them on
[13:14] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: that kinda confused me too
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[13:14] <Micheru> nope hmm
[13:14] <Micheru> i forget
[13:14] <Micheru> what was the command again?
[13:14] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: my point is, get it down to 1 partition, NTFS.
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: sudo fdisk -l
[13:15] <gordonjcp> meh
[13:15] <gordonjcp> why bother repartitioning drives anyway?
[13:15] <gordonjcp> disks are cheap
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> gordonjcp: well, he doens't have an XP disk.
[13:15] <gordonjcp> 50 quid for a 320G SATA
[13:15] <IndyGunFreak> but yes, hard drives are cheap.
[13:15] <Micheru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46438/
[13:15] <gordonjcp> seriously, my time is worth more
[13:16] <ubuntu__> anybody there?
[13:16] <Micheru> gordonjcp: answer i have no job
[13:16] <gordonjcp> if it takes half an hour to organise repartitioning a disk, it would be cheaper to just go and buy another
[13:16] <Micheru> i only just graduated
[13:16] <Micheru> i have exactly 4 aud
[13:16] <gordonjcp> Micheru: find another disk
[13:16] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: lol.
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: I found his info..
[13:16] <Micheru> i don't have another disk
[13:16] <gordonjcp> Micheru: what day do the bins get picked up?
[13:17] <ubuntu__> who can tell me how to use msn in ubuntu?
[13:17] <gordonjcp> go out and look for PCs left on the kerb for the bin men to pickup
[13:17] <brobostigon> pidgin:
[13:17]  * gordonjcp has got a couple of PIIIs that way
[13:17] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: ok, any suggestions?
[13:17] <brobostigon> ubuntu_: pidgin
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Booting his windows on external sata and trying to have linux on internal ide (as hdc no less) will be problematic
[13:17] <gordonjcp> Micheru: you only need a few gig of disk to install Ubuntu
[13:17] <Micheru> gordonjcp: we don't do that here
[13:17] <IndyGunFreak> !msn
[13:17] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete
[13:18] <Micheru> they get dropped off at a recycling center or at the dump bin guys won't pick anything but a bin up
[13:19] <Marcusklaas> Hey can I add a new session option to my login screen so that I can can start my system with a different xorg.conf file?
[13:19] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: i think he's suggesting you go, what we in the US call, dumpster diving.
[13:19] <Micheru> ok so what exactly do i need to do? and where can i get the image?
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: I would first fix the internal ide to show up as hda the first drive on the primary controller not primary drive on the secondary controller
[13:19] <IndyGunFreak> right.
[13:19] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: http://www.bootdisk.com
[13:19] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: download and burn an XP bootdisk
[13:20] <Micheru> no burner...
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: Then install XP on primary C drive/partition.  leaving at least 10 gigs for ubuntu at the end of the drive
[13:20] <IndyGunFreak> Micheru: ok, no burner.
[13:20] <kbrooks> Micheru, i wish i could help you in the situation you are in right now.
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: floppy drive?
[13:20] <Marcusklaas> Can I add a different session to the login screen that uses a different xorg.conf file?
[13:20]  * N3bunel saluta
[13:20] <Micheru> YEAH
[13:20] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, yes
[13:20] <Micheru> oops
[13:20] <loca|host> Launchpad is down ? it doesnt accept new bug reporting
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: Let me see if I can find the floppy you need
[13:21] <loca|host> or maybe there's no more bugs in Ubuntu :D
[13:21] <Marcusklaas> kbrooks: Could you please tell me how?
[13:21] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, i'll look around, give me a second please.
[13:21] <Marcusklaas> kbrooks: Cool thanks
[13:22] <loca|host> anyway, here's the bug: http://www.pastethat.com/?rKefS
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: I found the image for the floppy, just looking for the instructions to dd it into a windows boot floppy
[13:22] <emanuelez> hello
[13:22] <Micheru> ok
[13:23] <IndyGunFreak> is it an image?
[13:23] <emanuelez> i screwed up my laptop resolution after setting it up for dual screen. i tried to get the 1280x800 back but i cannot find a solution yet. any hint?
[13:23] <Micheru> ok so what exactly would i do with the boot floppy, knowing that the xp partition cannot be removed, and i cannot reinstall windows
[13:23] <emanuelez> setting my monitor as 1280x800 tft widescreen does not help
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Micheru: dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=16k                 is the command...   see me in #Voyager to give me your email addy..
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: do you want a copy as well
[13:24] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: be handy to have.
[13:27] <kartook> hai
[13:27] <kartook> all
[13:27] <kartook> need help
[13:27] <kartook> i need to play DVD in my ubuntu
[13:27] <mattycoze> hey guys - i've got a problem, my aptitude program doesn't have a very big library to search to install stuff
[13:27] <kartook> i am very new provide me a link step by step
[13:27] <kartook> please
[13:28] <mattycoze> i just installed ubuntu 7.10 btw
[13:28] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, i found it - i think. but i'll cross check to be sure, give me a minute again :-)
[13:28] <Marcusklaas> k :)
[13:28] <IdleOne> !dvd | kartook
[13:28] <ubotu> kartook: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:28] <IdleOne> !repos | mattycoze
[13:28] <ubotu> mattycoze: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[13:29] <emanuelez> kartook, look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd
[13:30] <mattycoze> IdleOne thx for the reference
[13:30] <IdleOne> np
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: Please dont give out my email addy.. thanks
[13:31] <mattycoze> what are the consequences of turning on or off muiltiverse/universe ?
[13:31] <Marcusklaas> none
[13:31] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: man, i was just signing up for a bunch of porn..lol
[13:31] <Marcusklaas> just gives you a lot more available software
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> IndyGunFreak: np
[13:31] <Marcusklaas> i'd turn them on
[13:31] <mattycoze> okay
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> mattycoze: they are safe to turn on
[13:31] <IdleOne> mattycoze: turning on will give you access to thousands of apps that your are probably going to want to install. leaving them off gives you nothing
[13:31] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, alllll right. i was on the wrong page - a old page - so now the right thing is to look in /usr/share/xsessions and copy the example
[13:32] <Marcusklaas> hmmm
[13:32] <IdleOne> mattycoze: btw everybody enables them. they are safe to use
[13:32] <Marcusklaas> but those sessios will be on the same user, right?
[13:32] <mattycoze> IdleOne, lol kk, i remember doing something like this last time i installed Ubuntu
[13:32] <mattycoze> but i didn't remember why
[13:32] <IdleOne> mattycoze: yup :)
[13:32] <mattycoze> and was just cautious :p
[13:32] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, they're global
[13:33] <Marcusklaas> Okay cool
[13:33] <Marcusklaas> :)
[13:33] <IdleOne> mattycoze: better safe then sorry. when in doubt ask first
[13:33] <Marcusklaas> let me try for a sec kbrooks
[13:33] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, wait ...
[13:33] <Marcusklaas> ?
[13:33] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, ok, i was misdirected, you said different X config, well this won't help :-)
[13:34] <IdleOne> !nickspam | bullgard8
[13:34] <ubotu> bullgard8: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[13:34] <Marcusklaas> Kbrooks: can't i login with different x config?!
[13:35] <kbrooks> Marcusklaas, yes, but this is in the gdm configuration file, not in sessions. i'll go back and read it, give me a minute
[13:35] <Marcusklaas> okay :)
[13:36] <naturesss> help sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop why can no inistall ?
[13:37] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to emulate the "Enter" button from a shell script (to be ran from keytouch)?
[13:37] <KenSentMe> I lost the Xubuntu upper and lower panel and menu. I only see the desktop, no other panels. Any idea on how to retrieve them?
[13:38] <n215> how do i add little script in startup ?
[13:38] <n215> to run after detecting usb modem
[13:39] <eth01> cron?
[13:40] <dn4> Does anyone here have some software that calculates trajectories and allows one model the earth
[13:40] <dn4> rocket science software
[13:40] <valleyman> hey, is anyone in aus having trouble connecting to the au.archive sources?
[13:42] <valleyman> hello?
[13:42] <valleyman> where is everyone?
[13:42] <omgoose> ???
[13:43] <naturesss> help sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop why can no inistall ?
[13:43] <IndyGunFreak> did you use aptitude to install it, or apt-get?
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> naturesss: that makes no sense, repeating it dosent help
[13:43] <dn4> naturesss, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:43] <naturesss> inistall ?
[13:44] <omgoose> can someone possibly send me their sources.list file, mine seems to be f***ed
[13:44] <naturesss> how
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> do you want to install or remove
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[13:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> omgoose: why is it screwed up
[13:44] <omgoose> indygunfreak: automatix
[13:44] <dn4> naturesss, did you want a desktop or not?
[13:44] <IndyGunFreak> omgoose: lol, way to go.
[13:44] <Jack_Sparrow> omgoose: the problem goes deeper, that will not fix it
[13:45] <IndyGunFreak> omgoose: probably better off reinstalling
[13:45] <naturesss> default ubuntu ... no kubuntu how ? dn4
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> omgoose: I agree with indy.. surprise
[13:45] <Jack_Sparrow> naturesss: we probably have a hannel in your native language.. but he gave you the right command to install the kubuntu-desktop
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:46] <Jack_Sparrow> naturesss: then when you login you will see sessions... pick kde session
[13:46] <Marcusklaas> kbrooks: any luck?
[13:47] <naturesss> Jack_Sparrow, yes see kde-desktop
[13:47] <omgoose> hrm, its not automatix that is the problem
[13:47] <omgoose> is anyone else here from australia?
[13:48] <naturesss> Jack_Sparrow,  how reapir ubuntu ?
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> omgoose: I thought you were using Austrailias only internet connection
[13:48] <Arelis> Does anybody know how i could get Adobe Flash CS3 to work on my Ubuntu PC and how i could get my Bamboo Fun tablet to work (which is unsupported in the old kernel Gutsy uses, but is supported in 2.22 or so)? I'd like to replace windows completely (which doesn't mean remove windows, but make ubuntu ready for doing that, as in everything "Just Works"(tm). But i need Adobe Flash, and some other windows programs. One problem is that Adobe Flash CS
[13:48] <omgoose> 99% [Connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (211.29.132.173)]<<<< it hangs on that
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> naturesss: You would need to clearly tell us what does not work...
[13:49] <omgoose> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg
[13:49] <omgoose>   Could not connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (211.29.132.173), connection timed out
[13:49] <omgoose> ?? help
[13:49] <the-killer> hello all how we can run a VCD video .
[13:49] <brobostigon> omgoose: it does that  when it cannot connect to the reps.
[13:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[13:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:49] <Jefo> howcan i install a languagepack for amarok?
[13:50] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know why the 64bit version of Ubuntu 7.10 won't install properly on this Intel Centrino Duo laptop?
[13:50] <[SpigiBoy]> hy
[13:50] <[SpigiBoy]> i know litle englis...
[13:50] <[SpigiBoy]> how to register my nick?
[13:50] <ere4si> I'm getting lockups in different apps - rhythmbox, vlc and user switcher - what log do I read to find out why?
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[13:50] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[13:50] <[SpigiBoy]> thx :D
[13:51] <naturesss> Jack_Sparrow,  now  remove kubuntu  my love ubuntu-desktop how ?
[13:51] <[SpigiBoy]> adn my chanel?
[13:51] <javier_> HOLA
[13:51] <Tim__> Hi, I can't login to gnome, the X server keeps on restarting, it doesn't seem to be a graphics driver issue however
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> naturesss: I cant understand your english...  sorry.
[13:51] <Marcusklaas> kbrooks: any luck?
[13:51] <netAdmin> !register
[13:51] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> [SpigiBoy]: what is your language/country
[13:52] <netAdmin> hungary/romania
[13:52] <naturesss> Jack_Sparrow,  ok :)
[13:52] <javier_> alguien sabe como entrar en irc hispano
[13:52] <omgoose> appears the australian servers down or summin
[13:52] <Marcusklaas> How can I add login sessions?
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   reduce the screen res
[13:52] <bazhang> !es | javier_
[13:52] <ubotu> javier_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[13:52] <omgoose> cause i just used a New Zealand sources list it it works fine
[13:52] <brobostigon> i did say that omgoose.
[13:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[13:53] <naturesss> Jack_Sparrow,  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[13:53] <naturesss> Jack_Sparrow,  sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop no work ? why
[13:53] <Marcusklaas> How can I add new X login sessions?
[13:53] <netAdmin> nickser and chanser is avaible?
[13:53] <JJtech> how can i install without using Live CD??
[13:53] <omgoose> brobostigon: but me not being able to connect doesnt mean they are down, could have been a problem on my end, ANY other australian users in here?
[13:53] <jramsey> trying to get adobe reader installed/associated with firefox; when i load the rpm, firefox whines there isn't an associated application and i don't see how i can just load the rpm and install it by hand; any ideas?
[13:53] <netAdmin> or how to register my nick and my chanel
[13:54] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, but it worked fine until recently, and I don't want to use a lower resolution
[13:54] <the-killer> i have problemes when i want to runa VCD i have this error (the playback of this movie need a VCD protocol ....)
[13:54] <Marcusklaas> How can I add new X login sessions?
[13:54] <atlef> !install | JJtech
[13:54] <ubotu> JJtech: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:54] <netAdmin> plz help me #netportal
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: back it down and see if that is the problem.. you dont need to stick to the lower res, just find out of that is the prob
[13:54] <Jack_Sparrow> if
[13:55] <netAdmin> join #netportal and help me
[13:55] <netAdmin> plz
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> netAdmin: please stop
[13:55] <jramsey> trying to get adobe reader installed/associated with firefox; when i load the rpm, firefox whines there isn't an associated application and i don't see how i can just load the rpm and install it by hand; any ideas?
[13:55] <atlef> !ask | netAdmin
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[13:55] <ubotu> netAdmin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:55] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[13:55] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, wo when I lower the resolution and I can log in where should I look for the problem?
[13:55] <netAdmin> !ask
[13:55] <ompaul> !register > netAdmin  (see the message from ubotu)
[13:56] <netAdmin> !register
[13:56] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[13:56] <ompaul> !botabuse | netAdmin
[13:56] <ubotu> netAdmin: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: post your xorg to the pastebin so someone can look at it
[13:56] <jramsey> i'll ask it differently; what's the easiest way to get adobe reader installed/associated with firefox?
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> morning ompaul
[13:56] <JJtech> exit
[13:56]  * JJtech be right back..
[13:56] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, afternoon
[13:56] <omgoose> how do i find out what version of gtk i have?
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[13:57] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, I pretty sure it's not a configuration issue of the X server, it worked fine for months and i didn't change anything, it's a gnome problem or something
[13:57] <ttt-> hi
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: People always say they didnt change or do anything, but the truth is something had to change...
[13:57] <ttt-> whats a nice cd writer prog i can get for ubuntu?
[13:58] <^LadyVaMpIrKa^> g
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ttt-: k3b
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !k3b
[13:58] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[13:58] <atlef> ttt-: gnomebaker
[13:58] <the-killer> i have problemes when i want to runa VCD i have this error (the playback of this movie need a VCD protocol ....)
[13:58] <the-killer> i have problemes when i want to runa VCD i have this error (the playback of this movie need a VCD protocol ....) help pliz
[13:58] <labinns1> Testing pastebin  E [01/Dec/2007:11:38:02 +0000] [Job 180] Canceling job since it could not be sent after 5 tries. E [01/Dec/2007:11:38:26 +0000] PID 16471 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf) stopped with status 252!
[13:58] <ttt-> gnomebaker or k3b?
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> the-killer: please dont repeat.. and agin.. see the restricted formats link
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[13:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:59] <atlef> ttt-: your choice
[13:59] <ttt-> :)
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ttt-: K3B seems to be the standard
[13:59] <berent> which is the best java jsp server on ubuntu ( is tomcat available on ubuntu?)
[13:59] <omgoose> how do i tell what version of gtk i have?
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ttt-: but feel free to try both.. the price is right..
[14:00] <ttt-> ok thanks
[14:00] <jramsey> apparently medibuntu has acrobat, but following the instructions here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-adobe-pdf-reader-with-plug-in-for-mozilla-firefox-in-feisty-fawn.html gives me an error
[14:00] <romme> where can i download freetype packages with full bci support enabled?
[14:00] <Davo_Dinkum> is there a pdf viewer that has the hand grab cursor??
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jramsey: trying to use feisty repos on gutsy
[14:00] <siccness> Hey Davo_Dinkum :)
[14:00] <Davo_Dinkum> yo siicy
[14:00] <jramsey> Jack_Sparrow, where is gutsy?
[14:00] <Davo_Dinkum> siccy
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> jramsey: are you running gutsy or feisty..
[14:01] <ankur> is there any good text based web browser  in ubuntu?
[14:01] <siccness> What you up to mate?
[14:01] <jramsey> Jack_Sparrow, cmd again to tell which version?
[14:01] <berent> ankur: lynx
[14:01] <siccness> ankur: elinks
[14:01] <Davo_Dinkum> trying to look at a scanned in PDF about learning russian
[14:01] <ankur> another?
[14:01] <Davo_Dinkum> you?
[14:01] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/d3955f9a2
[14:01] <siccness> trying to install freeradius
[14:01] <omgoose> how do i find out what version of gtk i have????????
[14:01] <Davo_Dinkum> wifi app?
[14:01] <siccness> tryna setup 802.1X yeah
[14:02] <corruptionoflulz> ankur: lynx
[14:02] <CarpeDiem> there is a official support channel?=O
[14:02] <ankur> ok thanks
[14:02] <CarpeDiem> very good :D
[14:02] <omgoose> how do i find out what version of gtk i have????????
[14:02] <Lounge> i've got a compiling question
[14:02] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: i'm limited to how much I get done by whatever the hell apt-get update is doing
[14:02] <siccness> Seems to be sitting there shifting it's thumbs back and forth
[14:02] <Davo_Dinkum> oh are you doing WPA2 enterprise level encryption ?
[14:02] <siccness> yeah
[14:03] <Davo_Dinkum> cool
[14:03] <Davo_Dinkum> i wanna do that
[14:03] <Davo_Dinkum> my router supports it
[14:03] <siccness> i built the wireless access point with a netgear wpn311
[14:03] <siccness> (madwifi/hostapd)
[14:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: you have it locked down to one res, what resa are you getting
[14:03] <Lounge> i've compiled sensor-applet with nvidia, got it to work, but synapitc wants to replace it with the one from the repos
[14:03] <siccness> that all works, just need to setup EAP-TLS now
[14:04] <labinns1> I have a problem printing to PDF. a portion of my log file is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46444/. Can anyone help?
[14:04] <Lounge> and since locking it down in synaptc doess't seemm to work
[14:04] <omgoose> HOW DO I FIND OUT WHAT VERSION OF GTK+ I HAVE ON GUTSY ?
[14:04] <siccness> omgoose: by losing the caps would be a good start
[14:04] <Davo_Dinkum> rangemax? as in wireless n?
[14:04] <Lounge> how do i change the version number in the source to a newer version?
[14:05] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: I got absolutely no idea what the hell that crack is. It's 802.11g
[14:05] <Davo_Dinkum> oh no it's not
[14:05] <Davo_Dinkum> lol crack
[14:05] <Davo_Dinkum> fair enough
[14:05] <siccness> I noticed that "RangeMax" thing on the box
[14:05] <omgoose> siccness: scroll up, i havn't used caps and no one answers >_<
[14:05] <siccness> just seemed like rubbish to me
[14:05] <Davo_Dinkum> could be
[14:05] <siccness> omgoose: perhaps no one knows the answer
[14:05] <sammyF> is there any way to tell ubuntu that the proprietary nvidia drivers are installed without ubuntu actually reinstalling them (using the beta ones, as the official ones crash randomly)
[14:05] <Davo_Dinkum> why not get an a/b/g card?
[14:05] <CarpeDiem> omgoose, use google
[14:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Lounge: If you are trying to do what I think you are tring to do.. you cant
[14:05] <CarpeDiem> you'll find it
[14:05] <jramsey> Jack_Sparrow,  sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins
[14:05] <jramsey>  did the trick ty
[14:05] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: It is an a/b/g card
[14:05] <Lounge> huh?
[14:05] <Davo_Dinkum> oh right. cool
[14:05] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, that's the native resolution of my display (1280x1024) and it used to work with that, it also works in windows
[14:06] <Davo_Dinkum> i thought netgear cards had no support in ubuntu
[14:06] <Lounge> i got the source to sensors-applet i just wann know if changing it to a newer version number will make the autoupdate goaway
[14:06] <Wooksta> does anyone know of a good tutorial on how to setup ubuntu server as a svn server?
[14:06] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: no idea what thats about. I'm using Debian Etch for the router/access point
[14:07] <siccness> using madwifi
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: add another lower res so you can at least get back in..  say 1024x768  and your monitor refresh rates look a bit odd, did you double check those
[14:07] <siccness> (set it in mastermode) and voila.
[14:07] <Lounge> locking down the version number in synaptic fails
[14:07] <olskolirc> how can I sort my home directory by file type please?
[14:07] <Davo_Dinkum> oh ok
[14:07] <Davo_Dinkum> i need to learn a lot more about wireless before i set anything up
[14:07] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Nah, I didn't know anything wireless when I set mine up.
[14:08] <Davo_Dinkum> lol
[14:08] <Davo_Dinkum> i dunno much about enterprise wpa2 encryption though
[14:08] <sammyF> is there any way to tell ubuntu that the proprietary nvidia drivers are installed without ubuntu actually reinstalling them (using the beta ones, as the official ones crash randomly)
[14:08] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: Neither do I :)
[14:08] <siccness> That's why you just do it
[14:08] <siccness> Learn :)
[14:08] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, refresh rate is right,  also don't see how changeing the resolution could solve the problem, but I'll reboot and try it out and the come here again to report
[14:08] <Davo_Dinkum> lol
[14:09] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: you learn more by doing something then reading about it
[14:09] <Davo_Dinkum> probably
[14:09] <siccness> s/then/than/
[14:09] <Jack_Sparrow> siccness: better to read first then try it
[14:09] <Davo_Dinkum> so why do people tell you to read the manual? :p
[14:09] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: cuz people are idiots
[14:09] <Davo_Dinkum> i think that's just another way of saying piss off.
[14:09] <siccness> yup
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> we dont use the term rtfm in here.. simply not acceptable...
[14:10] <desertc> QUESTION: My existing [7.10] installation is not booting.  It gets to GRUB 1.5 and says, Loading... (with the countdown timer stopping at either 2 or 1).  Sometimes it does boot correctly, but mostly not.  FSCK returns no errors.
[14:10] <neil_d> is edubuntu a liveCD ?
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !edubuntu
[14:11] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[14:11] <Davo_Dinkum> hmm we should have a bot in #gnewsense
[14:11] <siccness> apt is trying to hit a repo that appears to be down, is it possible to skip it
[14:11] <Davo_Dinkum> # it out i guess
[14:12] <siccness> bah the effort
[14:12] <Davo_Dinkum> lol
[14:12] <Jack_Sparrow> siccness: you can remove it from sources list.. rem it out # actually, but which one is a prob
[14:12] <siccness> au.archive
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> siccness: you are tying up the only line they have.. use nz
[14:13] <Lounge> i have created a sensors-applet_1.7.12+dfsg.deb with nividia support for the i386, can i upload it somewhere?
[14:13] <_ImAliVe> hi
[14:14] <Lounge> *nvidia
[14:14] <Davo_Dinkum> does dapper have any problems installing on SATA drives?
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Davo_Dinkum: sata used to be some issues. have not seen any lately.. other than when setup as raid
[14:14] <_ImAliVe> Davo_Dinkum what soory what is a SATA drive ??
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> serial ata
[14:15] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, changing the resolution didn't solve the prpblem
[14:15] <desertc> !grub
[14:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:16]  * siccness kicks krb
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: what was the last update, where did you get the video drivers you are using, inside ubuntu or from the web
[14:16] <ntoxin> Ever since I installed the latest update I seem to be having trouble accessing my NTFS hard drives, anyone know why?
[14:16] <_ImAliVe> looh what i foun
[14:16] <Davo_Dinkum> Jack_Sparrow: i meant dapper in particular
[14:16] <_ImAliVe> cool
[14:17] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos, but the nv and vesa driver don't work either
[14:17] <siccness> ntoxin: more information..?
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Davo_Dinkum: that kind of info is helpful up front
[14:17] <Davo_Dinkum> 01:14 < Davo_Dinkum> does dapper have any problems installing on SATA drives?
[14:17] <Davo_Dinkum> And I gave it to you
[14:17] <_ImAliVe> how do i install de ubuntu
[14:18] <_ImAliVe> *the
[14:18] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, I mean i get a cursor and the background has the color I set, but then gnome doesn't start and X restarts after 15 seconds or so
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: have you used root or sudo lately?
[14:18] <ntoxin> siccness: They do'nt appear on my desktop like they used to I can't acces them through Places and i even tried Konqueror/media with no luck it's like they are'nt there!!!
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Davo_Dinkum: I did have a couple probs with dapper and sata
[14:19] <siccness> ntoxin: are they mounted?
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Davo_Dinkum: that would be #ubuntu-3   ?
[14:19] <_ImAliVe> i'm sorry to persist but how do i install the ubuntu
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Davo_Dinkum: Not sure people are even in there these days
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> _ImAliVe: put in the disk and turn on your pc is how you start
[14:20] <Davo_Dinkum> oh ok
[14:20] <robdig> _ImAliVe: if you've downloaded the cd image, burn it to disk, and boot off of it. when you first boot, suggest that you run the cd check, then run the live cd. you can play with ubuntu without touching your hard drive. when you're ready, double click the installation icon on the desktop
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[14:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[14:20] <ntoxin> they used to be there automatically so i never bothered with that, how do you check?
[14:20] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, yes to change xorg.con just now, apart from that no
[14:20] <siccness> _ImAliVe: Download the appropriate ubuntu .iso file, burn it using a burner and place the media into an optical drive that can read the written disc
[14:20] <_ImAliVe> thank you guys :))
[14:20] <siccness> then double click an icon that says "Install"
[14:20] <siccness> or something o'rather.
[14:21] <Davo_Dinkum> then put on a chicken suit and run around a lot.
[14:21] <Tim__> has anybody here downgraded from guts to feisty? are there any problems I may run into?
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: I cant keep guessing at what was changed or installed...  something happened..  how much free space is on the drive?
[14:22] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, about 5 gb
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: May I assume you never even tried automatix or envy scripts.. both very bad ideas..
[14:23] <ntoxin> siccness: How do I check if my drives are mounted??
[14:23] <siccness> using the 'mount' command.
[14:23] <Davo_Dinkum>  mount your horse
[14:24] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, no I just used the ubuntu generated xorg.conf and replaced nv with nvidia, that xorg.conf was set up before restricted-drivers-manager even existed
[14:24] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: I came up with a cool naming scheme for my network, BBQ related. "frothies", "eyefillet", "kebabs", "snags" :)
[14:24] <neil_d> if I wanted to setup an edubuntu like ltsp on ubuntu what packages would I install ? ltsp-server, ltsp-server-standalone or something else ?
[14:24] <Davo_Dinkum> err ok
[14:25] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: I'm bored, I need to talk about something :)
[14:25] <Davo_Dinkum> maybe you could go to bed
[14:25] <siccness> cant
[14:25] <siccness> gotta get EAP happenin
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> siccness: then feel free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <Davo_Dinkum> ?
[14:25] <Davo_Dinkum> sif EAP
[14:25] <Davo_Dinkum> leave it
[14:25] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, don#t you think it's a gnome problem, I remember there was some .ICEAuthoirty file or something that could lead to trouble
[14:25] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: I am scared RADIUS is a little over the top though
[14:25] <siccness> Jack_Sparrow: shall do, sorry.
[14:25] <Davo_Dinkum> apart from being cool, are hostnames/whatever naming schemes actually useful?
[14:26] <siccness> Davo_Dinkum: yeah
[14:26] <Davo_Dinkum> what?
[14:26] <siccness> Helps determine what devices actually belong.
[14:26] <Davo_Dinkum> you can never be OTT with security
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: too many possibilities and downgrading wont work,, restore from your backup to do that
[14:26] <kbrooks> Dave123, "OTT"?
[14:26] <siccness> Over the top
[14:26] <Davo_Dinkum> over the top
[14:26] <kbrooks> Dave123, oh, over the top
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> over the top
[14:26] <ompaul> !xen | Arelis
[14:26] <ubotu> Arelis: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[14:26] <kbrooks> Dave123, yes, i got it ;-)
[14:27] <siccness> kbrooks: your tab-completion skills need help.
[14:27] <kbrooks> siccness, i'll fix it
[14:27] <siccness> :-)
[14:28] <kbrooks> siccness, works now
[14:28] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, well quite frankly, guts is the worst ubuntu version to date, I already spent hours fixing problems and now I can't even get to my desktop anymore, also I don't have a backup of my complete / with feisty
[14:29] <Tim__> Jack_Sparrow, what if I just wipe out / and install feisty
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: then you will have clean feisty
[14:29] <neil_d> Tim__, it works fine for me
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Tim__: I felt that way about edgy.. never did use it
[14:29] <ntoxin> siccness: when i try to mount it through the mount command it says it can't find it in /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab but when I do cat /etc/fstab/ there it they are!
[14:30] <Tim__> neil_d, that's great for you, but it doesn't help me at all
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ntoxin: are you trying to mount ntfs drive?
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[14:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !mount
[14:30] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[14:31] <punzada> screen is the best thing ever made. that is all. :)
[14:31] <ntoxin> Jack_Sparrow: yes indeed i amthey have disapeared since the lateset ubuntu update!
[14:31] <siccness> punzada: im pretty sure mpd tops it.
[14:31] <tz80122> punzada: screen ftw
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ntoxin: You can pastebin your fstab.. someone will help.. I was about to leave.. got to get some work done
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> people... please play nice and be respectful
[14:32] <ntoxin> k thanks Jack Sparrow
[14:32] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, "play nice"?/
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: You know what I mean....  especially you
[14:33] <Tim__> ok I decided to downgrade to gutsy, even if I got my desktop to work again I'm also experiencing another ebug that causes my system to freeze randomly, maybe that will also be fixed with feisty
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[14:33] <punzada> screen is amazing, and screen in an ssh with remote x wants to make me whisper sweet nothings into the developers ears ;x
[14:33] <punzada> lol
[14:33] <kbrooks> Jack_Sparrow, how dont i "play nice"?
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> kbrooks: You are fine...
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> later people
[14:34] <kbrooks> punzada, the way that all the individual programs are integrated.. they just fall in together
[14:34] <OIM> ı am having trouble with printer
[14:34] <kbrooks> punzada, is that what you mean?
[14:34] <punzada> indeed
[14:34] <punzada> so much usability
[14:35] <OIM> is there any one wanna help me
[14:35] <punzada> and being able to use process intensive software on remote systems visually and securely on a per-application basis .... yum lol
[14:35] <nT4_> helo guys
[14:35] <kbrooks> punzada, "securely on a per-application basis"?
[14:36] <punzada> well, like i said above, being ssh'd into a machine and through x fowarding load up apps as necessary and then as many as you could even want
[14:36] <punzada> is very nice :)
[14:36]  * punzada is just overly enjoying his new setup for his home machines lol
[14:37] <OIM> ubuntu sending progress to printer, it get warming that is all
[14:37] <OIM> no out put
[14:38] <BullButch> I need help!
[14:38] <kbrooks> BullButch, go on, ask.
[14:38] <Winball> BullButch We know
[14:38] <ntoxin> siccnesss: you still here??
[14:38] <siccness> Yeah mate
[14:38] <kbrooks> BullButch, that might be an inappropriate nickname to some in here
[14:39] <BullButch> kbrooks: I have a ATI RADEON X1600. I want to use "dual-head", how is that possible?
[14:39] <osxdude> ?
[14:39] <BullButch> kbrooks why is it inappropriate?
[14:40] <osxdude> uberodd
[14:40] <ntoxin> siccness my ntfs drive do not seem to be mounted and i do not know how to mount them, could you please help me!
[14:40] <bonsaiMonkey> hi does any one know a good working multiple torrent client?
[14:40] <siccness> Sure.
[14:40] <siccness> You need to find out what partition you want to mount
[14:40] <kbrooks> BullButch, i said "might be". and it might be inappropriate because of a bad word
[14:41] <siccness> use: sudo fdisk -l
[14:41] <ntoxin> siccness: sda1 and sdb1
[14:41] <siccness> ok
[14:41] <siccness> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/mountmehere
[14:41] <siccness> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/mountmehere2
[14:41] <BullButch> kbrooks hmm, okej.
[14:41] <siccness> although dont actually mount itthere ;P
[14:41] <siccness> put em in your home directory
[14:42] <siccness> or under /mnt/
[14:42] <siccness> i dunno what ubuntu's default area is
[14:43] <aurora> ciao
[14:43] <Bjorne> Anyone? I have ATI Radeon x1600. I want to be able to watch movies on my LCD-Tv. But i can't get the system to work with 2 screens..
[14:43] <aurora> !list
[14:43] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:44] <ntoxin> it sent me a readout of a logfile talking about an unclean shutdown!
[14:44] <rambo3> it's uncleeeeeeeeeeean
[14:45] <rambo3> i thought i was in offtopic
[14:45] <ant-> you are rambo3
[14:45] <hotchip> Hey guys, I'm having some problems installing fuppes. It fails during make with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46448/ error. Someone helped me some time ago by making a .deb file for me. But I did a fresh install of Gutsy today and now it fails again.
[14:46] <rambo3> !info fuppes
[14:46] <ubotu> Package fuppes does not exist in gutsy
[14:46] <ntoxin> siccness i IM'ed you the readout!
[14:46] <Bjorne> Can anyone help me with my Radeon-card?
[14:46] <hotchip> ubotu: Uh, yeah I know.
[14:46] <siccness> ntoxin: sorry?
[14:47] <hotchip> oh
[14:47] <LiMaO> hey everyone! good afternoon =)
[14:47] <hotchip> Hey
[14:47] <ntoxin> you didnt recieve it?
[14:47] <siccness> ntoxin: im not registered i dont think
[14:47] <siccness> yes i am
[14:47] <siccness> didnt receive it
[14:47] <siccness> pastebin it
[14:48] <siccness> ntoxin: you may need to simply run a chkdisk
[14:48] <siccness> or whatever its called
[14:48] <ntoxin> siccness well anyway it says something about an unclean shutdown and that the NTFS disks are marked to be in use!
[14:49] <ant-> fsck
[14:49] <hotchip> ntoxin: Startup Windows, and shut down again. ^^
[14:49] <ntoxin> ok thanks guys i'll tri that
[14:49] <ntoxin> **try
[14:50] <hotchip> now, anyone fancies helping me?
[14:50] <Python1320> Hmm. Whats wrong with my linux? Sometimes when I kill X/gdm the whole screen "freezes" (keys and other stuff works but you see random stuff in the screen (sometimes the stuff changes sometimes it doesnt) - I can still start X but i lose DRI and closing x does the "freeze" again. How can i solve this without a reboot? (currently freezed | gutsy | dri works if "freeze" hasn't appeared) glxinfo with libgl debug shows stuff like th
[14:51] <ant-> hotchip, you might as well just ask your question
[14:51] <hotchip> Hey guys, I'm having some problems installing fuppes. It fails during make with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46448/ error. Someone helped me some time ago by making a .deb file for me. But I did a fresh install of Gutsy today and now it fails again.
[14:52] <ubuntu__> who use hp 6515b ?
[14:52] <Python1320> i also get stuff like this when starting X -> ISPATCH ERROR! glSecondaryColor3dv -> 585 != 564
[14:52] <ubuntu__>  who use hp 6515b
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> Hi, I've been trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 for a while now. I have tried 3 different versions, 64bit, 32 bit, and 32 bit alternate(text installer).
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> My problem is, that when I select start or install ubuntu, it loads, gets to the orange colored screen, plays the login sound and then my computer abruptly shuts off. So I tried installing it with the text installer, worked fine and then when I went to login to ubuntu, computer just shuts off.
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> I should probably note that this is not only an ubuntu issue, I had the same exact problem when trying to install vista from a boot cd. It would get to the graphical loading bar, and then shut off. I DID actually get it part way installed, then it restarted to finish the installation, but of course it would just shut off when I tried getting past the loading screen. For some reason I can install windows XP perfectly fine. I just ref
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> thanks in advance for any help
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> Specs: everything is about 2 months old
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> Memory: 2046MB RAM
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> Card name: Radeon X1950 Pro 512.0 MB 256mb interface
[14:53] <bAcArDeE> Hard Drive: WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 250 GB
[14:54] <bAcArDeE> By the way temps are fine, so its not a heating issue, cpu is at a constant 35-40 celsius
[14:54] <bAcArDeE> any ideas
[14:55] <hotchip> hmm, I had the same problem when installing both windows and ubuntu on a computer that I recieved from a friend.
[14:55] <hotchip> I gave up. :(
[14:55] <orochi_> Hello :> I do a lot of work with blender, and in 7.10 i have the compiz desktop effects enabled...but when I click render in the blender ui, fullscreen or not, compiz causes the rendered window to appear -behind- the blender window :< Is there any way I could fix this, or (easily) report it as a bug somewhere?
[14:57] <grody> disable compiz when running blender?
[14:57] <erUSUL> !bugs | orochi_
[14:57] <ubotu> orochi_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:57] <ericvw> !wayttd
[14:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wayttd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:57] <bachstudies>  is anyone finding that firefox is causing random resets of the computer? I'm experiencing it a lot...nothing wrong with my processor temp or anything. Just buggy???
[14:58] <ant-> hotchip, did you download the latest sources?
[14:58] <hotchip> yes
[14:58] <hotchip> 549
[14:58] <hotchip> And I followed the guide how to build it on their wiki.
[14:59] <ant-> and did you do this exactly? http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/documentation/installation/linux/
[14:59] <hotchip> yes
[14:59] <ant-> hmm
[15:00] <hotchip> or wait.
[15:00] <siccness> i think i screwed up my dhcp range
[15:00] <hotchip> ant-: sorry, I followed this: http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/wiki/index.php/Compiling_on_Linux
[15:00] <bAcArDeE> I've been trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 for a while now. I have tried 3 different versions, 64bit, 32 bit, and 32 bit alternate(text installer).
[15:00] <bAcArDeE> My problem is, that when I select start or install ubuntu, it loads, gets to the orange colored screen, plays the login sound and then my computer abruptly shuts off. So I tried installing it with the text installer, worked fine and then when I went to login to ubuntu, computer just shuts off.
[15:00] <bAcArDeE> I should probably note that this is not only an ubuntu issue, I had the same exact problem when trying to install vista from a boot cd. It would get to the graphical loading bar, and then shut off. I DID actually get it part way installed, then it restarted to finish the installation, but of course it would just shut off when I tried getting past the loading screen. For some reason I can install windows XP perfectly fine. I just ref
[15:01] <siccness> bAcArDeE: hardware issue by the sounds of things mate
[15:01] <bAcArDeE> but what part, everything works fine in xp
[15:01] <bAcArDeE> is there a way to find out what is causing it
[15:01] <siccness> You can do some tests to help narrow it down
[15:01] <bAcArDeE> all my parts are less than 2 months old
[15:01] <bAcArDeE> custom built pc
[15:01] <siccness> I'd start with memory
[15:02] <bAcArDeE> memtest?
[15:02] <Xdange1> hey guys all of a sudden i notice that when i plug in my laptop charger my cpu usage is high
[15:02] <siccness> yeah
[15:02] <Xdange1> someting like 90%
[15:02] <Xdange1> and when i unplug it, its back to normal
[15:02] <bAcArDeE> the only reason I can think of for a comp shutting off like that would be overheating
[15:02] <bAcArDeE> but thats not possible the temps are fine
[15:02] <Xdange1> what could cause that?
[15:03] <siccness> computers randomly shutting down can be caused by just about anything
[15:03] <siccness> PSU, RAM, VGA, Motherboard
[15:03] <siccness> HDD
[15:03] <siccness> pick your device
[15:03] <siccness> and trouble-shoot.
[15:03] <ant-> hotchip, the svn is beta, get the latest stable release
[15:04] <imc_> Hi, just installed from CD and window element and message fonts are all ABSOLUTELY HUGE, can anyone help?
[15:04] <imc_> 7/10
[15:04] <romme> how do i mark a package as "fixed" so the update manager ignores it?
[15:05] <hotchip> ant-: I just tried downloading it through the net, the 549 release. And doing ./configure with the settings for gnome integration and video transcoding. It still errors out in make. :(
[15:07] <ant-> hotchip, are the errors the same?
[15:08] <srSantiago> any br?
[15:08] <sreenivasan> hi
[15:09] <hotchip> roughly, but not really.
[15:09] <hotchip> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46452/
[15:12] <hotchip> there's an update for ffmpeg, should I get it?
[15:13] <bullgard4> On one Ubuntu 7.10 computer ls lists the output in one column, on another it lists it in several columns. What is the reason for that?
[15:14] <jrib> bullgard4: length of list
[15:14] <ant-> hotchip, its good to update whenever possible
[15:14] <bewst> Do any plugins actually exist for the Zeroconf Service Discovery Applet?
[15:15] <bullgard4> jrib: Can you elaborate.
[15:15] <hotchip> ok ok :D
[15:15] <romme> how do i stop the update manager to notify me about updates to pinned packages?
[15:15] <romme> s/to notify/from notifying/
[15:15] <jrib> bullgard4: if there are a lot of files it will be in a single column
[15:15] <bullgard4> jrib: Ah! I will check that.
[15:16] <jrib> romme: does apt-get respect your pin?
[15:17] <romme> jrib: yes, but the update manager icon still keeps reminding me
[15:17] <berent> !keyring
[15:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyring - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:17] <berent> !keyrings
[15:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keyrings - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:17] <berent> what is a keyring?
[15:19] <stdin> berent: a list of trusted keys
[15:19] <jrib> romme: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude upgrade' differs from update manager?
[15:19] <berent> stdin: what does that mean and where is it used
[15:20] <stdin> jrib: if you mean upgrading to another ubuntu version, then yes
[15:20] <BlackDiamonds> what application is running here ? -> http://wubi.sourceforge.net/images/ubuntu-listen.jpg
[15:20] <stdin> berent: it's a list of GPG keys that are used to sign the list of packages from Ubuntu, for apt
[15:20] <romme> jrib: thanks, it does not
[15:20] <stdin> !gpg
[15:20] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:21] <jrib> romme: so the pin isn't working then?
[15:21] <n2diy_> BlackDiamonds: are you in coal country?
[15:21] <BlackDiamonds> I run Kubuntu on most of my machines
[15:21] <berent> stdin: if i create a newone what does that mean.
[15:21] <jrib> BlackDiamonds: /me takes a wild guess at "Listen" :)
[15:21] <romme> jrib: yeah, it offers me to upgrate that package
[15:21] <bullgard4> jrib: Thank you very much for explaining.
[15:21] <jrib> romme: pastebin how you setup your pin if you want
[15:22] <BlackDiamonds> Rhythmbox ?
[15:22] <jrib> BlackDiamonds: no, "Listen"
[15:22] <BlackDiamonds> oh
[15:22] <romme> jrib: nothing to pastebin: i've pinned it using synaptic. i'll try some other way now
[15:22] <jrib> romme: oh
[15:22] <stdin> berent: a personal ketring is a list of keys that you have stored locally, so you can verify that signed files are from who they claim to be from
[15:22] <berent> !listen
[15:22] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[15:22] <jrib> !pinning > romme (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:23] <J-_> !info seamonkey
[15:23] <ubotu> Package seamonkey does not exist in gutsy
[15:23] <J-_> hmm, why isn't seamonkey in the repos?
[15:23] <riotkittie> mozilla-seamonkey perhaps?
[15:23] <berent> stdin: how will it verify somebody else's signed files?
[15:23] <riotkittie> but i could be wrong.
[15:23] <riotkittie> !find seamonkey
[15:23] <mosno> J-_: try iceape
[15:24] <ubotu> Package/file seamonkey does not exist in gutsy
[15:24] <corruptionoflulz> would an easy way to backup all my programs and settings be just to copy my home folder? (minus /media)
[15:24] <J-_> k
[15:24] <BlackDiamonds> !find icemonkey
[15:24] <J-_> thanks riotkittie, mosno
[15:24] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: settings yes, programs no
[15:24] <ubotu> Package/file icemonkey does not exist in gutsy
[15:24] <mosno> !find iceape
[15:24] <ubotu> Found: iceape-locale-pl, iceape, iceape-browser, iceape-chatzilla, iceape-dbg (and 4 others)
[15:24] <jrib> !cloning | corruptionoflulz
[15:24] <ubotu> corruptionoflulz: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[15:24] <stdin> berent: you get their public key from a keyserver (like keyserver.ubuntu.com) and then use gpg to see if the file has a correct signature
[15:25] <kraut> moin
[15:25] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: Now that i have everything all clean and customized on this reinstall, i basically just want to copy it to a dvd so i can mess around and if i make a mess of things, just go back to that
[15:25] <ubuntu> g
[15:25] <berent> stdin: so you mean whoever creates a keyring will get an ancryption at some server which is retrieved at the time of verification of respective sources,
[15:26] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: yep backup /home and doing what ubotu said will work
[15:26] <kane77> is there some man viewer program? (nicer than the terminal man)
[15:27] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: thanks ^^   i think i mostly understand ubotu's instructions.
[15:27] <stdin> berent: a keyring is just a list of public keys which you can use to check a files origin. they create the keypair (public and private) on their system an upload the public key to a server so you can check that a file has a good signature from them
[15:27] <void^> kane77: there's xman ;)
[15:27] <jrib> kane77: gman for example
[15:29] <kane77> jrib, void^ thanx
[15:29] <berent> stdin: does that mean someone can check for my public keyring value and verify it on all files i upload and download.
[15:29] <Nilbus> amd64 linux runs on Intel Duo, right?
[15:30] <berent> Nilbus: yes
[15:30] <Nilbus> thank you
[15:31] <stdin> berent: close, if you create a key an upload the public key to s keyserver, someone else can download that key to check that a file you have signed is really from you. it's also used in emails to make sure the email is really from the sender it says
[15:31] <CrashOverride> lol this channel has the most users of nay channel on the server
[15:31] <axz> Why cant i use Helix player on ubuntu?
[15:31] <CrashOverride> * any
[15:31] <jrib> axz: you should say what happens when you try to use it so that you can get help.  But why not just use mplayer with w32codecs?
[15:32] <derkles> anyone else find it annoying when a drive is automounted the icon sits on top of existing icons on the desktop?
[15:32] <axz> jrib, because Helix is much easier to use and much better overview
[15:32] <axz> jrib, can it be installed on ubuntu?
[15:32] <berent> stdin: how do you sign a document with a keyring?
[15:33] <berent> stdin: i never sign anything when using email
[15:33] <jrib> !restricted > axz (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:34] <derkles> Can I autoarrange desktop icons to the right instead of left?
[15:34] <axz> uhmm the page tells me how to use codecs
[15:34] <stdin> berent: this is a good guide on how to do that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[15:35] <axz> all i wants to use is helix player it worked fine on Opensuse
[15:35] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: sorry, i'm still a little lost on how to backup the packages.
[15:35] <gamag> !fiesty
[15:35] <ubotu> It is spelt "FEIsty" :)
[15:35] <riotkittie> derkles: as far as i can see, no
[15:35] <seanhodges> axz: yes, its in universe repo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/helix-player
[15:36] <axz> seanhodges, thanks mate i have it in my add/remove list
[15:36] <axz> but cant select it to be installed
[15:36] <axz> any idea whats going one?
[15:37] <MepT_Bblu> пидары ёбаные хуля вы бляди хуесосы суки тут дрочите мудаки долбаёбы
[15:37] <jrib> axz: the page also links to Helix Player instructions, but now I see it is outdated anyway
[15:37] <jrib> !ru | MepT_Bblu
[15:37] <ubotu> MepT_Bblu: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[15:37] <seanhodges> axz - not sure why you cant select it, do you get a message popup?
[15:37] <axz> nope nothing
[15:37] <kane77> can I use something like that in tar options --exclude=abc|def to exclude abc and def?
[15:37] <jrib> axz: what happens when you do 'sudo aptitude install helix-player'
[15:38] <axz> just cant slect the helix to be installed
[15:38] <axz> let me try dind try that one
[15:38] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: you run the command and get a file
[15:38] <berent> stdin: thanks
[15:38] <axz> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "helix-player"
[15:38] <Nilbus> I'm not quite sure how to download the ubuntu livecd.  There's a checkbox that reads, "Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer."  But I don't understand what this means.
[15:38] <Nilbus> could anyone clarify?
[15:38] <seanhodges> axz, also bear in mind that Helix is not available for amd64
[15:39] <seanhodges> the project wont compile for that architecture
[15:39] <axz> ah
[15:39] <jrib> Nilbus: the Desktop cd is both the install and live.  The alternate is *not* live, only text-based install
[15:39] <seanhodges> i know this because i have amd64 ;)
[15:39] <axz> well it was on Opensuse seanhodges
[15:39] <Nilbus> jrib, ah, thanks
[15:39] <axz> whats yopu suggest me to use on ubuntu mate?
[15:39] <mosno> Alternate CD rocks (it lets me do LVM)!
[15:40] <seanhodges> OpenSuSE wraps the 32bit libs in a certain way to make Helix work - Ubuntu doesn't do this yet
[15:40] <axz> seanhodges, you should be the best person to ask you how to make firefox 32 work on 64bit
[15:41] <mosno> seanhodges: aww you still use a lowercase u
[15:41] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: i type that into the terminal and nothing happens?
[15:41] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: paste here what you typed
[15:41] <corruptionoflulz> dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[15:42] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: now you have ~/my-packages
[15:42] <seanhodges> mosno, haha it was SuSE back when I used it ;) I still call Snickers bars "Marathon" as well
[15:42] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: and i'd copy that elsewhere how?
[15:42] <H264_laptop> Marathon was a fun game
[15:43] <mosno> seanhodges: oldschool
[15:43] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: right click, copy?
[15:43] <mosno> seanhodges: but was it S.u.S.E or SuSE? ;)
[15:43] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: ~ means HOME
[15:43] <corruptionoflulz> ohhhhh
[15:43] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: (it was sitting in front of my face the whole time)
[15:43] <seanhodges> axz, i haven't tried to wrap 32bit Firefox in Ubuntu before, tho i've seen the instructions before will try and dig them out
[15:44] <axz> yeah
[15:44] <SoundChaser> Hi guys - trying to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, and am getting an error message about not being able to retrieve the "...feisty-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz", it appears the file on the server isn't compressed, but the update manager thinks it should be....
[15:44] <axz> i m searhing for those instructions for a long time
[15:44] <ankur> is there any antivirous software for ubuntu?
[15:44] <SoundChaser> (And I am surprised, I would think .gz would be a gzipped file..."
[15:44] <seanhodges> ankur, ClamAV
[15:45] <H264_laptop> SoundChaser: I got an error like that before... the fix was to comment off everything in sources.list then uncomment them
[15:45] <H264_laptop> and check for updates
[15:45] <jrib> !flash32 | seanhodges, axz
[15:45] <jrib> !flash64 | seanhodges, axz
[15:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:45] <ubotu> seanhodges, axz: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[15:45] <SoundChaser> okay, I take it that sources.list is somehwere under /etc?
[15:46] <jrib> SoundChaser: /etc/apt
[15:46] <Nobl1> the X11VNC package is different than gutsy remote desktop, right?
[15:46] <kbrooks> question
[15:46] <seanhodges> nice one jrib, i was looking for that page
[15:46] <H264_laptop> SoundChaser: yeah... sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:47] <SoundChaser> And comment out *everything*?
[15:47] <Learning-Ubuntu> Is there a mini mode in Amarok?
[15:48] <axz> thanks jrib i try that.. sorry guys i just come from opensuse to ubuntu kinda weird stepp :P
[15:48] <H264_laptop> SoundChaser: yes, the comment is #
[15:48] <SoundChaser> yeah...
[15:48] <H264_laptop> then check for updates
[15:48] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: now if i just copy my home drive that's every setting and every program right? (already copied my-packages)
[15:48] <jrib> axz: 64bit isn't really worth the hassle imo
[15:48] <H264_laptop> then undo the comments you did and check again
[15:49] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: yes and you have to remember the command you need to /use/ the my-packages file
[15:49] <CrashOverride> LOL
[15:49] <ankur> is there any software in ubuntu which can give me total list of software those are installed in my pc?
[15:49] <CrashOverride> ya he better quit his client
[15:49] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: yeah, i pasted ubotu's instructions into a text file in that folder.. thanks!
[15:49] <jrib> ankur: aptitude search '~i'
[15:50] <seanhodges> axz, personally i dont have a problem with 64bit - but it is still a bit rough around the edges in places. If you find it holding you back it's best to switch to 32bit for now
[15:50] <alzamabar> HI guys
[15:50] <SoundChaser> okay - it's going - going to let it run -- thanks guys...
[15:50] <SoundChaser> (and gals...)
[15:50] <alzamabar> and gals
[15:50] <H264_laptop> SoundChaser: so that fixed it?
[15:51] <H264_laptop> ah, nm
[15:51] <H264_laptop> I guess it did... lol
[15:51] <CrashOverride> lol
[15:51] <seanhodges> axz, also, bookmark this while you still working your way around Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromLinux. It has tips like the environment variables set for Ubuntu, etc
[15:51] <axz> thanks alot
[15:51] <alzamabar> This evening I'll get a new PC. I bought it to install Ubuntu. May I ask few questions here?
[15:52] <linxeh> is there anywhere to download a dump of the ubuntu wiki?
[15:52] <H264_laptop> ankur: also the program Synaptic will let you do that easily
[15:52] <axz> jrib, i getting this error on 3th stepp
[15:52] <sethk> alzamabar, sure.  Can't promise whether you'll get the correct answers, though   :)
[15:52] <axz> Could not save the file /etc/pango32/pangorc.
[15:52] <alzamabar> Thanx :)
[15:52] <alzamabar> My new PC will have a P4 dual core. Is that supported by Ubuntu?
[15:53] <alzamabar> Also, it'll have 2 GB RAM
[15:53] <sethk> alzamabar, yes
[15:53] <travis> hey guys
[15:53] <auzzy> hey all
[15:53] <alzamabar> and a 256 MB graphic card
[15:53] <ankur> thanks
[15:53] <jrib> axz: you used 'gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc' ?
[15:53] <JEFFmasterFLEX> linxeh:  there is a firefox extension that lets you save an entire webpage as a PDF
[15:53] <riddareralf> Hello. I've just recompiled my kernel so now I have 2.6.22.14-custom. When I'm trying to install linux-restricted-modules (for my ATI card) it won't load since it want version 2.6.22.14-custom and not 2.5.22.14
[15:53] <sethk> alzamabar, 2 gig ram is more than enough (unless you intend to dual boot vista on the same box)
[15:53] <travis> anyone here struggle with a ATI Radion Mobility with Compiz?
[15:53] <axz> yes jrib
[15:53] <corruptionoflulz> travis: YES
[15:54] <jrib> axz: close it, does '/etc/pango32' exist?
[15:54] <corruptionoflulz> travis: i can't even get my radeon mobility to work with restricted drivers on my laptop
[15:54] <sethk> alzamabar, so far, nothing out of the ordinary and nothing you need to worry about
[15:54] <travis> any idea for a solution? I've reinstalled 7.10 15+ times
[15:54] <travis> and tried like 20 different solluitions
[15:54] <travis> what kind of laptop?
[15:54] <axz> let me check
[15:54] <alzamabar> sethk, I just want to run it as a server machine (for instance I want to put my DB there) but I also want to try my email server there
[15:54] <travis> I have a Dell Inspiron E1505
[15:54] <linxeh> JEFFmasterFLEX: that's not what I want. I'd like to make a mirror of the entire wiki for use on a network without internet access
[15:54] <sethk> alzamabar, I run those on linux, not a problem
[15:55] <corruptionoflulz> travis: have you tried ati's linux drivers they released not too long ago?
[15:55] <alzamabar> Fantastic
[15:55] <axz> jrib, nope
[15:55] <axz> no pango32
[15:55] <travis> yeah
[15:55] <auzzy> I have an issue with sound on ubuntu, anyone able to help?
[15:55] <travis> no luck
[15:55] <sethk> alzamabar, you should do a server install, if you aren't going to use the box as a workstation
[15:55] <thinh> what ext should i format my external hd ext2 or ext3?
[15:55] <H264_laptop> travis: Yes. the only solution I have had was the recent ATI drivers for my X1600
[15:55] <linxeh> JEFFmasterFLEX: a db copy would be less of a hit on bandwidth and CPU than doing a page by page crawl of the site
[15:55] <travis> it worked for you?
[15:55] <H264_laptop> the 8.42.3 drivers
[15:55] <sethk> alzamabar, there's no real difference in the o/s, but it prevents you from giving up disk space for things you'll never use
[15:55] <sethk> alzamabar, and installs quicker.
[15:55] <alzamabar> sethk, I've got a wireless router which receives ADSL, but I'm thinking of attaching my new PC to it through Ethernet cable.
[15:56] <sethk> alzamabar, if you should change your mind later, you can always add the workstation packages.
[15:56] <sethk> alzamabar, if they are next to each other, I use wires.
[15:56] <travis> H264: ok ill give those a shot
[15:56] <sethk> alzamabar, simpler to set up, more reliable
[15:56] <thinh> anyone know what the difference between ext2 or ext3?
[15:56] <alzamabar> sethk, will I have to configure the network or it will pick it up automatically?
[15:56] <corruptionoflulz> travis: it hasn't worked for me
[15:56] <travis> let me double check to see if thats what i tried earlier
[15:56] <sethk> alzamabar, it will auto configure by default using DHCP
[15:56] <H264_laptop> travis: yes, but only the latest build of the 8.42.3 driver, it is called something else version 7.11
[15:57] <sethk> alzamabar, you can of course change any of the default settings, but if you are happy with the auto config it will just work.
[15:57] <H264_laptop> travis: I could get a link for you if you want
[15:57] <alzamabar> sethk, so as long as I attach the Ethernet cable to the wireless router, it will configure itself?
[15:57] <travis> 7.11 is the correct one?
[15:57] <travis> or the 8.42.3 driver
[15:57] <sethk> alzamabar, yes.  I'm assuming the router is set up to supply the configuration.  They typically are so set up.
[15:57] <travis> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run
[15:57] <H264_laptop> travis: yeah, the 7.11 is a slightly newer build of the 8.42.3
[15:57] <travis> is that the one?
[15:57] <jrib> axz: k, refresh the page
[15:57] <travis> oh
[15:57] <travis> ok
[15:57] <travis> i have both downloaded then
[15:57] <auzzy> any ideas for some sound issues?
[15:58] <H264_laptop> travis: err, let me check
[15:58] <alzamabar> sethk, yes, the router assigns IP addresses to local clients. How to I see the hw address of my machine?
[15:58] <corruptionoflulz> travis: honestly, i just gave up and decided to wait for hardy
[15:58] <axz> lool nice job :p
[15:58] <alzamabar> ifconfig?
[15:58] <sethk> alzamabar, ifconfig -a
[15:58] <axz> thanks
[15:58] <sethk> alzamabar, the -a will give more info, including the hardware address
[15:58] <alzamabar> sethk, ok, thanks
[15:58] <axz> btw update firefox version
[15:58] <corruptionoflulz> travis: my laptop just doesn't get along with any drivers, even the latest windows drivers from ATI
[15:58] <axz> its .11 atm
[15:58] <axz> :p
[15:58] <jrib> axz: it's a wiki if you want :)
[15:59] <axz> oke
[15:59] <travis> what kind of laptop is it?
[15:59] <alzamabar> sethk, because I want my DHCP server to assign always the same IP to each box, and that must be configured with the hw address
[15:59] <travis> all im having problems with are my ATI driveres and my wireless, if it wasn't for those i would be golden
[15:59] <corruptionoflulz> travis: sager 3790, radeon mobility 9700
[15:59] <sethk> alzamabar, yes, that's true, and you can easily find the address.
[16:00] <sethk> alzamabar, you can also simply assign a static IP to each box.  Whichever you find easier.
[16:00] <auzzy> can someone help me with some sound problems
[16:00] <alzamabar> sethk, what about internet? Will it work straight away?
[16:00] <sethk> alzamabar, yes.  The auto configuration will set up the gateway and DNS parameters, which is all you need to be able to get to the net.
[16:00] <robdig> auzzy: maybe, what's your problem
[16:00] <corruptionoflulz> travis: please remember to mention someone's name when talking to them, because this is a busy channel and it's hard to keep track of.
[16:00] <travis> To avoid all the clutter can we meet in #UbuntuATI ?
[16:00] <sethk> alzamabar, assuming again that the router is configured to do that.  If a windows box talks to the router and can then see the 'net, so will the linux box.
[16:01] <corruptionoflulz> travis: you can do autocompletes on the name by pressing tab after typing a few letters
[16:01] <alzamabar> sethk, thanx. Also, a question I had was: is Ubuntu just another version of Linux (i.e. all Linux commands will work on Ubuntu as well), or are the commands different? (E.g. ls, cd /home/usr/local, etc)
[16:01] <auzzy> robdig: I cant get any sound at all with ubuntu... but it works fine in suse
[16:01] <sethk> alzamabar, those commands are a function of the shell that you are running.  So they are exactly the same on all the linux flavors
[16:02] <corruptionoflulz> !sound | auzzy
[16:02] <ubotu> auzzy: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:02] <alzamabar> sethk, yeah my Windows box (the one I'm currently using) can access the internet through the router
[16:02] <sethk> alzamabar, I run zsh, by the way, instead of bash.  You mmay want to try it.
[16:02] <mrmuehle> I can't login anymore, a box asked me to connect to a XDMCP. Can I get rid of this?
[16:02] <sethk> alzamabar, I even run zsh on my windows boxes, when my clients insist on using windows.
[16:02] <auzzy> nice one, i'll check those
[16:02] <sethk> alzamabar, so I have all the same commands there as well
[16:02] <corruptionoflulz> auzzy: this is also a good thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[16:02] <CrashOverride> I can access my windows files from ubuntu so is there a way to access my ubuntu files from windows
[16:03] <HansMK> probably the Nth person to stroll in asking, but does anyone know of any resources for resolving Gutsy Gibbon system freezes (presumably associated with Nvidia cards, Compiz-Fusion, Flash, etc.)?
[16:03] <auzzy> cheers guys, i'll take a look at those
[16:03] <alzamabar> sethk, I'm actually am a newbie in the Linux world. So far I have always kept far from Linux because  I couldn't find the wireless drivers that I needed. But since now I can connect both wireless and through Ethernet cable, I want to get started with it
[16:03] <alzamabar> sethk, are you a developer?
[16:04] <sethk> alzamabar, yes
[16:04] <alzamabar> sethk, me too :) Nice to meet you
[16:04] <sethk> alzamabar, you'll find linux has major advantages for development, when compared to windows.
[16:04] <alzamabar> sethk. the main reason because I bought this PC for Ubuntu is that I want to use it for my MSc project.
[16:05] <sethk> alzamabar, sounds like a reasonable thing to use it for.  :)
[16:05] <alzamabar> I'm going to write an email server in Java
[16:05] <sethk> alzamabar, why Java?
[16:05] <kbrooks> i need to list alll non-free software on my system
[16:05] <gamag> what is the file system for cdrom: mount -t ??? /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[16:05] <kbrooks> how?
[16:05] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: 80mb sound about right for a full backup?
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> kbrooks, use virtual-rms
[16:05] <friend> erver irc.supernut.de 7000
[16:05] <sethk> alzamabar, we will momentarily get yelled at for using time on the support channel, so move either to #ubuntu-offtopic or pm me
[16:05] <playya> geirha_, iso9660
[16:05] <Paddy_EIRE> kbrooks, vrms rather
[16:05] <alzamabar> sethk, because I'm an expert with it, and I love the language, it's clean OO
[16:06] <alzamabar> How do I pm you?
[16:06] <CrashOverride> firefox is loading pages really slow for some reason
[16:06] <Paddy_EIRE> alzamabar, errr... since when is java clean :/
[16:07] <sethk> alzamabar, depends on the IRC program you use.  I created a temporary channel, so do   /join #temporary1
[16:07] <travis> quick question: is there an easy way to log into a super user without having ti switch users?
[16:08] <travis> to*
[16:08] <ankur> why firwfox is very slow in ubuntu?
[16:08] <ankur> firefox
[16:08] <CrashOverride> #wikipedia
[16:08] <CrashOverride> wtf
[16:08] <CrashOverride> sry
[16:08] <ravigehlot> I created a new user on ubuntu for my wife but whenever we try to log in with her newly created account the GUI interface hangs with a black screen and goes nowhere from that point on. Also, I cant access the terminal to reset the X session neither can I use the keystroke combination to restart the GUI interface.
[16:08] <corruptionoflulz> ankur: i've heard many people complain that firefox is slower in linux than window for them, myself included.
[16:09] <corruptionoflulz> ankur: i suggest trying the firefox 3 beta, and also giving opera a shot.
[16:09] <mrmuehle> @CrashOverride: if your files are on a fat32 or NTFS partition, W2K and higher can read this
[16:10] <chilli_> #ecere
[16:11] <corruptionoflulz> i believe the name for firefox 3 in synaptics is gran paradiso
 from where i wll get firefox 3 beta?
[16:12] <malakar> folks, how do i have different entries in grub to boot into different run level
[16:12] <malakar> i am on gutsy
by synaptic search?
[16:12] <kbrooks> vrms says for 7 pkgs "(...) (dei) (...)" what does dei mean? i removed those 7 packages
[16:14] <esox> hello, possible d'avoir de l'aide pour configurer amule ?
[16:15] <n2diy> ! fr | esox
[16:15] <ubotu> esox: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:16] <tinker> @malakar: Just add the run-level number at the end of the kernel line:
[16:16] <woelle> #Stuttgart
[16:18] <malakar> @tinker i tried that, i want to go to runlevel 3, but it is still showing gdm and all
[16:18] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu 7.10 create the directory /initrd?
[16:20] <tinker> @malakar, that's because in /etc/rc3.d the link to gdm begins with 'S'
[16:21] <malakar> @tinker, i want to boot into text mode as i don't have a monitor attached
[16:21] <malakar> @tinker what is the best way to disable X11
[16:22] <tz80122> malakar: on debian based systems, there is no difference between runlevels 2-5 by default. none of that runlevels have a special meaning, so it's up to you to remove the S-symlink for gdm from /etc/rc3.d
[16:22] <malakar> okay
[16:22] <kane77> is gzip faster than bzip2?
[16:22] <tinker> @malakar remove the link /etc/rcX.d/S30gdm where X is the runlevel you wish to ruin
[16:23] <tinker> run
[16:23] <malakar> @tikner let me try
[16:23] <malakar> @tinker**
[16:24] <smooker> hi all
[16:25] <smooker> can i ask questions about ubuntu ?
[16:25] <corruptionoflulz> smooker, that's what this channel is for
[16:25] <smooker> xD ok
[16:25] <corruptionoflulz> !ask | smooker
[16:25] <ubotu> smooker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:25] <smooker> i have installed ubuntu
[16:26] <smooker> on my other PC but i dont know how to config my internet access [LAN DHCP Auto]
[16:26] <hotchip> ant-: If you're still here. Updating ffmpeg solved it all. Now it works fine.
[16:27] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: really matters on your HOME
[16:27] <smooker> anyone ?
[16:27] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: no media was in it, so i think that was about right
[16:27] <corruptionoflulz> smooker: sorry, not really sure what you need..
[16:27] <smooker> i need to configure my internet
[16:28] <tinker> smooker, in /etc/network/interfaces write something like "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[16:28] <jrib> corruptionoflulz: the my-packages just records what you have installed (package names and their status), so it's a few kb at most
[16:28] <smooker> k ill try right now
[16:28] <corruptionoflulz> jrib: yeah, i noticed.
[16:28] <tinker> then dhclient
[16:29] <ravigehlot> I created a new user on ubuntu for my wife but whenever we try to log in with her newly created account the GUI interface hangs with a black screen and goes nowhere from that point on. Also, I cant access the terminal to reset the X session neither can I use the keystroke combination to restart the GUI interface.
[16:29] <dutchie86> ravigehlot which version of Ubuntu you using
[16:29] <dutchie86> ?
[16:29] <ravigehlot> I am using the latest stable one
[16:30] <dutchie86> if you create another user such as test or user123 do you get the same problem?
[16:30] <Biohazard> Does anyone knows how I can change the default positions for new windows? large windows overlap ~5 pixels to the right virtual desktop and the title bar of the window is completly hidden by the GNOME panel. That sucks.
[16:31] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: didnt test those users
[16:31] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: why would those make a difference
[16:31] <ankur> clamav antivirous software does not work in my ubuntu
[16:31] <ankur> is the another antivirous software for ubuntu?
[16:32] <dutchie86> stranger things have happended that for some reason one user name your OS just doesnt like, also elminiates any special characters or anything like that could maybe cause issues
[16:32] <Veinor> I can't get the latest version of xnee to work properly
[16:33] <Veinor> at least, gnee doesn't.
[16:33] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: That would be weird that it wouldnt like a certain name over another
[16:33] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: no especial character being used
[16:33] <smooker> oh, after i installed the nvidia drivers auto i got now error Failed to start X Server :(
[16:33] <Veinor> whenever I try, it gives me an error like: "gnee: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0xpointer"
[16:33] <dutchie86> ravigehlot: it could be the user id
[16:34] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: what about it? userIds are Unique
[16:34] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: as far as I know those user Ids start at a 1000 and auto-increments as more users are added
[16:35] <dutchie86> ravigehlot: yes but if you previously created a user account and deleted a user and some file is left on the system from the old user i have seen that an old user ID is used and the system has a bit of a freeze, not common though
[16:35] <smooker> x server failed to start "no screens found" and i cant boot the system :S
[16:35] <dutchie86> ravigehlot: you installed any extra software or drivers?
[16:35] <caytchen> hello, when i'm in the login prompt, screen resolution and v/hsync etc. are just right - but when logging in, he seems to switch xorg configs - just where do i find that one? :)
[16:36] <ravigehlot> dutchie86: ok. Let me create a new user
[16:36] <Livestong> I am having problems with my Radeon X1550
[16:36] <erUSUL> !fixres | caytchen
[16:36] <ubotu> caytchen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:36] <thinh> how do i format my external hd with ext3 so i can use it on every machine?
[16:37] <Veinor> can anyone recommend a good program for recording keyboard macros?
[16:37] <CrashOverride> is gentoo and gutsy the same thing
[16:37] <Livestong> My Radeon X1550 is running in low graphic mode, and i also need duo monitor support
[16:38] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: no.
[16:38] <CrashOverride> why in linux when you want to download a program theres a list of 20 different versions and in windows theres just one .exe installer.
[16:38] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: gentoo is an entirely different linux distribution
[16:38] <CrashOverride> how do i know wich one i have -.-
[16:38] <thinh> i cant do anything with the hd when i format it ext3?
[16:38] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: easiest way is to use synaptics package manager
[16:38] <thinh> do i have to take ownership or anything?
[16:39] <dutchie86> CrashOverride: Gentoo is a distribution gutsy is a version of Ubuntu
[16:39] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: gutsy is the release of the latest version of ubuntu
[16:39] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: go to system -> admin -> synaptics package manager
[16:39] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: and search for the app you are looking for there
[16:39] <Livestong> Can anyone help with a Radeon X1550
[16:39] <sethk> CrashOverride, the package manager can tell you which version is installed
[16:39] <Veinor> CrashOverride: it's like... a linux distribution is a particular model of cars, and gutsy is the 09 ford explorer or whatever. Gentoo is some other kind of Ford car.
[16:40] <CrashOverride> and windows is a normal car that works without messing around with it for a week, then
[16:40] <CrashOverride> -.-
[16:40] <corruptionoflulz> except that i'd rather not think of linux as fords, let's pick a different make
[16:40] <Livestong> Honda
[16:40] <graulich> I can't get my new creative webcam working. I'm on gutsy. what do I do?
[16:40] <Veinor> CrashOverride: works, but not necessarily as well. :P
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam | graulich
[16:41] <ubotu> graulich: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[16:41] <Livestong> they dont seem to be doing driver suppot today
[16:41] <corruptionoflulz> CrashOverride: plus, it's not like you didn't have to go through learning linux too
[16:41] <corruptionoflulz> i mean windows**
[16:41] <Jack_Sparrow> graulich: or get a webcam that is supported from our supported hardware list
[16:42] <smooker> im stil having error with the XServer after i restarted.. no displays found"
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[16:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[16:42] <CrashOverride> using bash to do stuff if fun
[16:42] <graulich> I just spent twenty euro on this cam ><
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> graulich: But it seems you didnt look to see if it worked with your OS before you bought it.
[16:42] <tz80122> graulich: you should have checked if the webcams runs before buying it
[16:43] <Veinor> CrashOverride: you can run an entire linux session without using the mouse, and you can run an entire windows session without using the keyboard. (paraphrased from unknown)
[16:43] <DECUSgeek> Look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the X startup log and why it's bombing
[16:43] <Walking_In_the_r> hello
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> graulich: No different that buying a product that says for Mac....
[16:43] <CrashOverride> lol true
[16:43] <Walking_In_the_r> does anyone here knows how can i split a very large picture into A4 paper sheets?
[16:43] <Walking_In_the_r> does anyone here knows how can i split a very large picture into A4 paper sheets??
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat
[16:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[16:44] <graulich> I looked around earlier and the first result I got was the wiki page about webcams which starts with "some webcams autodetect" so I mistakenly assumed if I get a mainstream brandname it'l just work
[16:44] <Veinor> So... can anyone help me with my question re: keyboard macro programs (specifically xnee/gnee/cnee/pnee)?
[16:44] <Livestong> Guys, Radeon X1550 Is running in low graphics, give me a reason to not go back to XP please!!!
[16:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !res | Livestong
[16:44] <ubotu> Livestong: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:44] <Walking_In_the_r> !repeat > Jack_Sparrow
[16:45] <dutchie86> Livestrong: Because Ubuntu is much more powerful
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Walking_In_the_r: get a clue
[16:45] <tz80122> graulich: no. creative, just like any other manufacturer use all kind of chipsets in their webcams. and they keep changing those chipsets very fast.
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[16:45] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:45] <Walking_In_the_r> lol
[16:45] <CrashOverride> lol
[16:45] <corruptionoflulz> Livestong: i suggest doing a few searches around the forums too, it's possible that someone had the same problem and documented their fix
[16:45] <dutchie86> Livestrong: Do you have the latest drivers?
[16:45] <graulich> great. I'll have to see what the return policy is over there.
[16:46] <Livestong> No X server known for your video hardware
[16:46] <CrashOverride> I wish I wasn't the only one in my school that knows anything about computers -.-
[16:46] <x-Dieu> clear
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Livestong: be sure to set your monitor config, not just your video card
[16:47] <tz80122> graulich: before returning it, google for the usb-id you get from lsusb
[16:47] <Nematocyst> i guess it's possible to do an entire xchat session using just bots
[16:47] <graulich> tz80122, did already before
[16:47] <tz80122> graulich: alright
[16:47] <CrashOverride> I should get a green monochrome monitor
[16:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Livestong: You can set it to vesa mode with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:47] <tz80122> graulich: i guess then you are out of luck with this one
[16:48] <graulich> tz80122, looks like it. =\
[16:48] <tinker> smooker, still there?
[16:48] <smooker> yes
[16:48] <smooker> i dont have permissions to access the x server log
[16:49] <tz80122> graulich: just a suggestion. before buying a new one, try to download the windows driver for that new model and look at the usb-id in the driver's .inf file.
[16:49] <tinker> look for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:49] <tz80122> graulich: so you get an idea of the chipset in there
[16:49] <jingo811> testing 123
[16:49] <graulich> I'm just gonna stick to the lists of supported webcams
[16:50] <tz80122> graulich: note that there are revisions
[16:50] <graulich> oh
[16:50] <smooker> i try to look but it says i dont have permissions and the the x server is terminated..
[16:50] <tz80122> graulich: even if the product name is the same, a newer revision can have a totally different chipset
[16:50] <piko> g
[16:51] <dutchie86> smooker do you get anything if u use dmesg
[16:51] <tz80122> graulich: that's why i suggest taking a look at the usb-id in the recent windows driver
[16:52] <tz80122> graulich: some manufacturers print the revision number on the package. for example d-link does that for their wlan products.
[16:53] <travis> anyone here familliar with running Compiz on an ATI Radeon Mobility?
[16:53] <Legendario> i have a problem with my sound card. can anyone help me?
[16:53] <dutchie86> Legendario: what problem are you having?
[16:53] <ghostknife> When I ran apt-get install [x], and it failed fetching some packages it tells me to try "apt-get update" or run with "--fix-missing", what should I do if I want to do nothing but continue with the installation of those packages that failed?
[16:53] <smooker> what is dmesg ?
[16:53] <kbrooks> how do i put a package on hold?
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostknife: have you changed any repos
[16:54] <tinker> is a command
[16:54] <Legendario>  i was having problems with my onboard sound card, so i changed to a pci one
[16:54] <ghostknife> smooker: it's the messages that show (printed by the kernel
[16:54] <ghostknife> smooker: it's the messages that show (printed by the kernel) when the system boots
[16:54] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: no
[16:54] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: it just failed (the download).
[16:54] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: just as in a minute ago
[16:54] <Livestong> There seems to be no working driver for the Radon x1550
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostknife: the au repos were down earlier.. please post your xorg to the pastebin.  see channel topic for link
[16:55] <ghostknife> smooker: dmesg also lists any messages after boot that the kernel printed. like modules that loaded, or device changes/updates, etc...
[16:55] <meezfoghi> hello all
[16:55] <Legendario> dutchie86, i want ubuntu to recognize it
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Livestong: It should still run in Vesa mode
[16:55] <kael_> hi all
[16:55] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: I was installing alien and some other software. I just want to continue the installation
[16:55] <dutchie86> Legendario: Do you know the make and model of the card?
[16:55] <meezfoghi> my usb drive not detect on vmware server
[16:56] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: in fact, it was from the cdrom
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostknife: Need to find the problem before you can just continue
[16:56] <axod> Hi which package do I need to get sun java sdk? can't find it :(
[16:56] <kael_> i'l looking for an utility to manage my hdd, this is a toshiba hdd that seems to have a schock detection, i would like to get this detection to work
[16:56] <meezfoghi> what i need to do
[16:56] <Livestong>  SAPPHIRE 100173L Radeon X1550 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16
[16:56] <dutchie86> meezfoghi does it work in ubuntu?
[16:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[16:56] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[16:56] <bulmer> !java |axod
[16:56] <ubotu> axod: please see above
[16:56] <axod> ah yes I remember now thanks
[16:56] <Legendario> dutchie86, it is a generic 64 bits board with a creative chip
[16:57] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: there is no problem, the cdrom just got unplugged. it's got a sloppy broken cable
[16:57] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: I just want to instruct it to continue
[16:57] <meezfoghi> dutchie86, yes it work on ubuntu but not vmware
[16:57] <Livestong> its 1 128 bit board
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostknife: did you do what the error told you to do?
[16:57] <Livestong> its a 128 bit board
[16:57] <dutchie86> Legendario, did it get picked up when you booted it from the livecd for the install?
[16:58] <Livestong> As a restricted driver, but the driver is not working corectly
[16:58] <meezfoghi> anybody please
[16:58] <chaosrl> would anyone know how to get controls for the vlc-mozilla plugin? i only have a black screen that shows (no video) in white until the video fires up, and then it just plays all the way through with no way of pausing or stopping it.
[16:58] <Legendario> the problem is that i was using an on-board version when i installed it. i changed my sound card
[16:58] <meezfoghi> what i need to do
[16:58] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: it told me to run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing, but want to know if I can continue, without having to download the new repo files
[16:58] <Livestong> Its enables but no in use
[16:58] <chaosrl> wait. i can pause it by hitting space, but that's all
[16:59] <dutchie86> meezofghi it sounds mode like a vmware problem, i suggest have a look on google and on the vmware support site
[16:59] <dutchie86> *meezfoghi
[16:59] <Legendario> dutchie86, i disabled the onboard card and installed the pci one
[16:59] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: never mind, just running the install command again works fine
[16:59] <meezfoghi> dutchie86, ok.. thank
[17:00] <ghostknife> Jack_Sparrow: it ignores the already installed packages without failing with a "fatal error".
[17:00] <dutchie86> Legendario after the install?
[17:00] <Livestong> ATI accelrated graphics driver, (Enabled), (Not in Use)
[17:00] <Legendario> dutchie86, it didn't work
[17:01] <dutchie86> Legendario, did you swap the card after you had ubuntu installed?
[17:01] <Livestong> how do i tell it to use the driver?
[17:01] <Legendario> dutchie86, yes
[17:01] <dutchie86> Legendario, so you are trying to get that card to work?
[17:01] <ghostknife> I just used "alien" to convert a RPM to DEB, how do I install it now?
[17:01] <Legendario> dutchie86, yes
[17:02] <game> how do i get rid of spywheir and root kits ??????????????????????????????/
[17:02] <KenSentMe> I can read data-cd's from my xubuntu install, but when i insert an audio cd, I get errors that it can't read the track count and cant mount the drive. This is the output of dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46470/ . Does anyone have an idea how to solve this?
[17:03] <KenSentMe> game, do you have spyware in Ubuntu?
[17:03] <Legendario> dutchie86, yes. that's it
[17:03] <dutchie86> Legendario, excuse the silly questions, 2am here in Australia :), did you go through the proccess of installing it
[17:03] <game> kensentme i think i do
[17:03] <bazhang> game: on your windows machine?
[17:04] <KenSentMe> game, what makes you think that?
[17:04] <bazhang> game: no spyware in Ubuntu.
[17:04] <Legendario> dutchie86, installing what? the new card? sure thing! (don't worry cause i am in brazil)
[17:04] <kael_> anyone knows some utility to manage hard drive schock detection on ubuntu?
[17:04] <tomd123> bazhang: isn't spyware possible on ubuntu?
[17:05] <game> well i herd of root kits and then my firewall and router cept on crashing
[17:05] <bazhang> tomd123: technically perhaps
[17:05] <Veinor> tomd123: technically possible, but it doesn't exist.
[17:05]  * tomd123 off to make spyware for ubuntu and make millions :P
[17:05] <dutchie86> Legendario: did you assign to it be your primary mixer if not here is a guide to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-67146.html that might help
[17:05] <Veinor> game: I really can't imagine that the two are related. I think the firewall and router issues are unrelated to your computer
[17:05] <bazhang> !ot | tomd123
[17:05] <ubotu> tomd123: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:06] <game> and there is spyware  for linux  there are ROOT KITS AND KERNAL KITS
[17:06] <graulich> if a windows driver for a webcam is an exe file and I want to get to the inf file to check the usb id for it, how do I get it?
[17:06] <bazhang> game: do you have an actual problem?
[17:06] <Veinor> such as, game?
[17:07] <kael_> looking for a solution to reset an hard disk drive smart settings and advanced power management...
[17:07] <tomd123> bazhang: sorry about that, I was being very peurile
[17:07] <game> YES I would like to know how to get rid if root kits
[17:07] <dutchie86> graulich: run the exe and hunt for the inf file, puts it somewhere in the system root folder, not too sure where sorry
[17:07] <Legendario> dutchie86, i didn't do a thing. i was expecting ubuntu to recognize it like on a live-cd session
[17:07] <bulmer> whose got ldap server used as authentication server? what you need to change on Linux to use ldap for authentication instead of /etc/passwd?
[17:07] <Veinor> game: how do you know you have one?
[17:08] <game> KAEL GO IN TH THE BIOS AND ITS IN THERE UNDER HARDDRIVE
[17:08] <astro76> !caps | game
[17:08] <ubotu> game: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:09] <Javid> I have a laptop with an s-video out, how do I enable this as another monitor?
[17:09] <kane77> is there any media player that can play multi-part rar archives?
[17:09] <dutchie86> game: Chkrootkit or Rkhunter are 2 packages you can install and run to see if you have any root kits
[17:09] <game> VEINOR  it is being very slow and there is rely no way to rely knowing if your system is compromised
[17:09] <rrittenhouse> I need a basic DNS server (no specifically defined zones) i just need it to look up all of its IP's (this is a temp setup)
[17:09] <kael_> game : i do not understand what you mean, i'm looking for solution to reset the smart advanced instructions, for exemple the advanced power management that is a value between 0 and 254... that can be set by hdparm
[17:09] <astro76> kane77, you need to extract the rar, and play the enclosed file
[17:10] <astro76> !rar | kane77
[17:10] <ubotu> kane77: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[17:10] <bazhang> game: if you want to know about spyware, please visit ##windows
[17:10] <Veinor> game: yeah, but slow systems are not necessarily compromised. And there's no way of knowing that there isn't a teapot somewhere in orbit around jupiter, but that doesn't mean there is one.
[17:10] <CarlFK> is there a command line player for .flv Macromedia Flash files ?
[17:10] <jp> Wat zat
[17:10] <Legendario> dutchie86, forgive me if i am wrong, but the link you sent me is for old card and this is a brand new one...
[17:11] <kane77> astro76, argh.. sure.. but for windows there is rar player.. that plays files directly from rar file... and that's neat as i have most movies on dvd's in rar archives..
[17:11] <bazhang> CarlFK: not sure about cli, but vlc will do gui
[17:11] <dutchie86> Legendario: yes but the proccess is the same
[17:11] <Velcro_MM> I am running Breezy Badger, which is Ubuntu 5 I think. I can't seem to update it using Synaptic (doesn't find the servers or something). Can I update with an installation CD for a more recent Ubuntu?
[17:11] <soberon>  Hi... excuse me but: It is possible to install xubuntu and change xfce for icewm?... How?... Exists a a guide or how-to?
[17:11] <bazhang> kane77: ark does the same for ubuntu
[17:11] <Javid> Velcro_MM, yeah, get the new version :p
[17:11] <astro76> kane77, ahh, don't think there is one, many programs transparently support .gz compression, but not rar which is a proprietary protocol, really only used in windows world
[17:11] <Nematocyst> kane77, why would you store movies in archives?
[17:11] <jp> ubuntu Rock !
[17:11] <tomd123> soberon: I think you just install icewm from synaptic package manager and choose icewm session at login
[17:12] <Legendario> dutchie86, ok. i will take a look at it... thanks..
[17:12] <kane77> Nematocyst, i like to keep the release packaging...
[17:12] <hilltop> hhi, how to install Java RE?
[17:12] <soberon> So easy? Thanks!!!
[17:12] <KenSentMe> !java | hilltop
[17:12] <ubotu> hilltop: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[17:12] <dutchie86> no problems Legendario
[17:12] <bazhang> kane77: you can do so without hassle
[17:12] <Javid> I have a laptop with an s-video out, how do I enable this as another monitor in Feisty?
[17:13] <CarlFK> kane77: you need to tell the people raring it to stop
[17:13] <CarlFK> Javid: post to the forum
[17:13] <Javid> kane77, the people who release movies in 874 little rar-bits are faggots, just unrar it and watch it
[17:13] <Velcro_MM> Javid, I won't have to reinstall from scratch and lose my settings etc.?
[17:14] <dutchie86> Javid: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9106.html
[17:14] <bazhang> Javid: there should be a setting in monitor/display that will allow this
[17:14] <Velcro_MM> like my Internet settings?
[17:14] <dutchie86> not sure if that will help Javid, but good place to start
[17:14] <astro76> !ohmy | Javid
[17:14] <ubotu> Javid: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:14] <Javid> Velcro_MM, try update-manager -d
[17:14] <Javid> !icaresomuch | astro76
[17:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icaresomuch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:14] <Velcro_MM> on the new install CD?
[17:14] <astro76> !botabuse | Javid
[17:14] <ubotu> Javid: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:14] <kane77> Javid, it's not that useless.. if download fails you don't have to start downloading the whole 700MB movie again, instead you only download the archive..
[17:15] <bazhang> cmon Javid
[17:15] <Javid> kane77, have you heard of torrents
[17:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:15] <Javid> !lol | IndyGunFreak
[17:15] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[17:15] <dutchie86> i think we should keep on topic Javid and Kane77
[17:15] <kane77> Javid, sure...
[17:15] <bazhang> Javid: cut it out
[17:15] <kane77> dutchie86, sorry...
[17:15] <dn4> how do I only get files from this using wget
[17:15] <dn4>  wget http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/daily_mpg/1996_01/
[17:16] <IndyGunFreak> Javid: worry about yourself, i'll worry about me, if you have a prob w/ me, call an op
[17:16] <dutchie86> no worries kane77 :)
[17:16] <dn4> I only want files for  wget http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/daily_mpg/1996*
[17:16] <dutchie86> dn4 try man wget
[17:16] <CarlFK> dn4 something like wget -r ...
[17:16] <dutchie86> that will let you know what switched to use dn4
[17:17] <Velcro_MM> thx Javid
[17:17] <bullgard1> I added to the Ubuntu 7.10 Grub kernel line the boot parameter "vga=791" and rebootet. Now (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19063/) all consoles are black. What went wrong?
[17:17] <Ongaku> rhythmbox, totem, any of those...i can play one song, but once it wants to switch to another song it freezes...anyone else having this problem?
[17:17] <CarlFK> dn4:  there is no wild card stuff though.  you may want to create a text file of URLs or filenames, and figure out how to feed that to wget
[17:17] <IndyGunFreak> bullgard1: why did you add that line
[17:18] <astro76> bullgard1, not sure, but after gutsy upgrade here I had to remove the "vga=791" to get my consoles back, so it's not just you
[17:18] <astro76> bullgard1, haven't had a chance to troubleshoot it yet
[17:18] <dutchie86> no i havent Ongaku, does it freeze with all songs when it goes to the next one or just ones of a certian file type?
[17:18] <astro76> IndyGunFreak, for a decent text console resolutionm ;)
[17:18] <Ongaku> dutchie86: i only have .mp3 files
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[17:18] <Velcro_MM> my laptop is 400 MHz Dell Latitude, running Ubuntu 5 Breezy Badger. Will installing a late Ubuntu slow it down a lot?
[17:18] <Velcro_MM> later
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: i'd go w/ xubuntu 7.10
[17:18] <dutchie86> Velcro_MM if your worried about speed try xubuntu
[17:18] <Velcro_MM> hmmm, maybe I will.
[17:19] <Ongaku> dutchie86: it´s odd, i can´t switch manually, it won´t switch on it´s own...it´s so odd
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: how much RAM?
[17:19] <bullgard1> astro76: Interesting! Thank you for your comment.
[17:19] <Velcro_MM> I forget, it may be 128.
[17:19] <bazhang> Velcro_MM: there is also fluxbuntu
[17:19] <dutchie86> Ongaku when the software crashes does it ask u to file a bug report?
[17:19] <Velcro_MM> I will check... hang on.
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: hm, you may need to go Flux..
[17:19] <Ongaku> dutchie86: no
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> thats gonna be bare minimum for xfce
[17:19] <Ongaku> dutchie86: it just freezes and won´t do anything....i have to force quit it
[17:19] <dn4> ok big is all the data in http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/daily_mpg/1996_01/
[17:20] <dutchie86> Ongaku run it from terminal and see what errors you get
[17:20] <usuario> http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=XuH_YN_-I1M
[17:20] <Ongaku> dutchie86: tried uninstalling and re-installing
[17:20] <Ongaku> dutchie86: how would i do that? i´m kinda new
[17:20] <olivier> hi :
[17:20] <oj> how do i change what appears inside my cube? default is gears... is there a way to have something else?
[17:20] <olivier> !
[17:20] <usuario> sorry
[17:20] <bazhang> usuario: do you have a question?
[17:20] <usuario> xDD
[17:20] <dutchie86> Ongaku, thats ok, which program you trying to run? usually just type in the program name and hit enter
[17:21] <Ongaku> dutchie86: rhythmbox...i tried to use amarok and it does the same thing
[17:21] <dutchie86> you can open terminal by going to Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[17:21] <Ongaku> dutchie86: ok it´s running in terminal...what should i do? try to switch a song?
[17:21] <dutchie86> Ongaku: yep
[17:22] <Ongaku> dutchie86: ok it´s playing the song fine
[17:22] <Ongaku> dutchie86: it´s just when it wants to switch to another it freezes up
[17:22] <dutchie86> Ongaku, well let it play the song and switch and see what happens
[17:23] <kael_> someone could tell if hdparm sets definitive parmaters or if i should launch hdparm at everyboot to set hdd parameters?
[17:23] <Ongaku> dutchie86: ok it switched song, it doesn´t change and freezes...it doesn´t say anything in the terminal
[17:23] <bung> hey all, what do i have to install to get the http_proxy command
[17:23] <dutchie86> Ongaku in the terminal press Ctrl and C together to end it
[17:23] <bung> or is it a config variable somewhere
[17:23] <astro76> kael_, there is an hdparm daemon and configuration file
[17:23] <Ongaku> dutchie86: i did that...it doesn´t say anything
[17:24] <dutchie86> bung you can set the proxy under the administrative settings
[17:24] <bung> dutchie86: thanks
[17:24] <kael_> thank you astro76, maybe i could ask you something?
[17:24] <dutchie86> no worries bung
[17:24] <astro76> kael_, /etc/hdparm.conf ...sure I'll try to answer ;)
[17:24] <dutchie86> Ongaku, thats a strange one, i would suggest post in the forums
[17:24] <Ongaku> dutchie86: could it be possibly something with .mp3 files?
[17:24] <game> all: how do i install a    tar.gz file that i just downloaded ???????????????????/
[17:24] <dutchie86> Ongaku, do they play fine on another pc?
[17:24] <bazhang> game: what file?
[17:25] <Ongaku> dutchie86: yeah on a windows one lol
[17:25] <dutchie86> game you cant install a tar.gz
[17:25] <game> the root kit hunters
[17:25] <Ongaku> game: you have to compile those no?
[17:25] <dutchie86> lol, then it probably isn't the files Ongaku
[17:25] <bazhang> game: you install that from the repos
[17:25] <kael_> astro76 : i've just set a value for the advanced power management but dont know if i need tos et it at every boot... ever tried?
[17:25] <Ongaku> dutchie86: yeah i figured it wasn´t the files...lol it´s something to do with gstreamer possibly...odd
[17:25] <kael_> astro76 : command is hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda
[17:26] <Ongaku> dutchie86: I´ve seen a few posts on launchpad of weirdo bugs happening in gusty with gstreamer programs
[17:26] <dutchie86> yeah possibly, too tired to think fully Ongaku, :), is the a verbose switch for rythmbox?
[17:26] <game> bazhang: so i just unpack it then what do i do
[17:26] <smooker> anyone know how to exit from X Server ?
[17:26] <CrashOverride> any good N64 emulators for ubuntu?
[17:26] <Ongaku> dutchie86: verbose?
[17:26] <bazhang> game: throw it out--this is not like windows--you don't install stuff you download from sites like that
[17:26] <dutchie86> game i would suggest using synaptic to install the apps
[17:26] <dutchie86> Ongaku, yeah something like -v usually
[17:27] <dutchie86> that will hopefully provide more output
[17:27] <jrgp> how do I set up 5.1 surround sound? my motherboard has the jacks and they work fine under windows xp without and configuration. with ubuntu, I can only here the front two speakers
[17:27] <Ongaku> dutchie86: how i do that? type in terminal rhythmbox -v?
[17:28] <game> i serched for add remove programs and there are no root kit hunters
[17:28] <CrashOverride> any good N64 emulators for ubuntu? -.-
[17:28] <dutchie86> Ongaku, try that or type man rythmbox or rhythmbox -?
[17:28] <GRocket> try rkhunter
[17:28] <astro76> kael_, you would add that in /etc/hdparm.conf and then enable the hdparm daemon (e.g. in system > admin > services)
[17:28] <dutchie86> jgrp: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=971
[17:28] <Velcro_MM> IndyGunFreak, I have 256 megs RAm on that Dell Latitude at 400 MHz.
[17:28] <jrgp> anyone know how to setup surround sound>
[17:28] <jrgp> tr
[17:28] <jrgp> ty*
[17:28] <dutchie86> jrgp google is ur friend :)
[17:28] <n2diy_> game: try tripwire
[17:28] <GRocket> game--search for RKHunter, rootkit hunter
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: ok, that should be enough.... you may end up using the alternate install CD, but i think it should be ok w/ the Live CD
[17:29] <kael_> astro76, ok, and is there an hdparm command to reset the smart and power management default value on a hard drive?
[17:29] <bazhang> game: open a terminal and type the following: sudo apt-get install rkhunter chkrootkit
[17:29] <Velcro_MM> Indy, enough for Xubuntu?
[17:29] <dutchie86> Ongaku any luck?
[17:29] <Ongaku> dutchie86: no verbose
[17:29] <minerale> I have installed gutsy on a computer that has the sky2 marvell driver for ethernet, and it's causing kernel panics, can I use ndiswrapper for a wired connection?
[17:29] <bluesign> anyone know netboot image for ubuntu on ps3?
[17:29] <CrashOverride> are there any nitnendo 64 emulators for ubuntu or not >:(
[17:29] <CrashOverride> becuase I can't get project 64 to run in wine
[17:29] <Ongaku> crashoverride: google it
[17:29] <dutchie86> CrashOverride have u used google for a good look?
[17:30] <CrashOverride> yes all I found was this one that freezes if I load anything
[17:30] <bazhang> CrashOverride: not sure, check ubuntuforums.org gaming section
[17:30] <astro76> kael_, not sure
[17:30] <Ongaku> dutchie86: should i debug it?
[17:30] <dutchie86> Ongaku yeah that is prob the path from here
[17:30] <Velcro_MM> I am into responsive slim operating systems, but I also like to get some stuff out-of-the-box like Firefox and a mediaplayer that actually plays some media
[17:30] <bazhang> bluesign: yes
[17:30] <kael_> astro76,  if i reboot without to launch hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda on boot,the value should be the default manufacturer one?
[17:30] <dutchie86> i would also suggest posting in the forum Ongaku, maybe someone else has had the issue and resolved it
[17:30] <malakar> hi, i am specifying the run level in grub, still ubuntu is going to runlevel 2, (grub has 3 as the runlevel)
[17:31] <astro76> minerale, I believe so yes
[17:31] <bazhang> Velcro_MM: you'll need to up the ram for firefox then
[17:31] <Ongaku> dutchie86: yeah i should...hmm the debug says this [rb_threads_init] rb-util.c:460: GMutex isn't recursive
[17:31] <genesis> in ubuntu 7.04 is the reading of a bios bug found normal?
[17:31] <bluesign> bazhang: i am googling for an hour, can you point me to a clue?
[17:31] <dutchie86> Ongaku which debug command did you use?
[17:31] <astro76> kael_, not sure, there should be an option to list the current settings
[17:31] <genesis> I dont get it on any other startups, xp...mandriva etc
[17:31] <Velcro_MM> bazhang, Firefox used to be known as a responsive browser. What is faster than it now?
[17:31] <Ongaku> dutchie86: rhythmbox -d
[17:32] <game>                  K  I NEED TO LOG OFF AND GET SOME POWER  ILL BE BACK :
[17:32] <bazhang> bluesign: for the minimal install or the net install or what
[17:32] <dutchie86> aah cool, thanks Ongaku
[17:32] <kael_> ok i'll try with ubcd and will see after reboot the current settings
[17:32] <dutchie86> bye game
[17:32] <bazhang> Velcro_MM: with 128meg of ram?
[17:32] <bluesign> bazhang: net install for ps3
[17:32] <kael_> astro76 thanks ;o)
[17:32] <Velcro_MM> bazhang, nah, 256
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: yes, you should be able to run Xubuntu fine, like i said, you may need to use the alternate install CD, and as for playing media files, etc, provided you have the proper codecs, you should have no prob.
[17:32] <Ongaku> dutchie86: i did a gdb no idea what that is but alot of ppl on forum posts use that command
[17:33] <dutchie86> that show up anything Ongaku
[17:33] <Arelis> Guys, what personalized homepage (igoogle, live.com, netvibes, pageflakes, symbaloo, that kind of stuff) do you use?
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: have you ever used Xfce Desktop, or Linux?
[17:33] <Velcro_MM> IndyGunfreak, bazhang, okay thanks
[17:33] <Ongaku> dutchie86: i did it last night and it said JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm/]
[17:33] <Velcro_MM> I have messed around for 15 minutes w. Xfce
[17:33] <bazhang> bluesign: http://www.louiscandell.com/ps3/
[17:33] <dutchie86> from my 3/4th as sleep brain Ongaku that is gnome debuger so probably wont help you too much
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: lol, well you'll probably needa bit more than that.
[17:33] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:34] <Ongaku> dutchie86: lol
[17:34] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:34] <bazhang> Arelis: google
[17:34] <Ongaku> dutchie86: know how you feel i was up til 3am figuring this crap out...at first it said sh: jackd: not found
[17:34] <astro76> gdb = GNU debugger ;)
[17:34] <dutchie86> lol, Ongaku, i am 20 minutes of 3am on the moment :)
[17:34] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:34] <bluesign> bazhang: thanks a lot, checking
[17:34] <Velcro_MM> IndyGunFreak, I have had Ubuntu with whatever it is, KDE, on this laptop for a year or so, but I don't use it except now and then and while traveling for browsing (via Firefox)
[17:35] <bazhang> bluesign: no worries
[17:35] <Ongaku> dutchie86: hehe time differences :P its 11.34am here...lol
[17:35] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:35] <JoeThomas> Hi, I've asked here multiple times, and get the answer to edit /etc/motd to change motd. But it gets replaced every reboot..
[17:35] <anonamoose> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Dell_FREEDOM_Box_A_Fully_Open_System_for_Home_Users_by_2010
[17:35] <Ongaku> dutchie86: what is jackd?
[17:35] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: ok, s you likely have a basic understanding.... but KDE will bog that old machine down.
[17:35] <Dr_willis> JoeThomas,  its gerneated by a service dynamically on the fly every boot up.
[17:35] <jacob> what is gnome?
[17:35] <bazhang> anonamoose: do you have a question?
[17:35] <dutchie86> i would strongly suggest having a crack at the forums and launchpad, seems like you will need some help from someone who is 1. more awake than me and b. knows a bit more about the audio drivers etc than me
[17:35] <Velcro_MM> IndyGunFreak, it's been just a bit sluggish, but acceptable
[17:35] <JoeThomas> Dr_willis: so is there any way to add my own to the motd?
[17:36] <dutchie86> Ongaku honestly i have no idea
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> !gnome
[17:36] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[17:36] <JoeThomas> Dr_willis: Or not even show that services and just my own?
[17:36] <Ongaku> dutchie86: haha yeah...i put a bug up on launchpad..maybe ill try the forums
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: yes, but if youu intend to upgrade, Feisty or Gutsy will cripple it.
[17:36] <anonym_> hello
[17:36] <Ongaku> dutchie86: thanks for your help though, out i go to fix it lol
[17:36] <CrashOverride> lol
[17:36] <Dr_willis> JoeThomas,  of course there is. :) But i dont rember the service name or config files off hand. i messed with it ages ago.
[17:36] <dutchie86> Ongaku, when you do put in the forums just make sure you put in the bug number :)
[17:36] <Ongaku> dutchie86: okies :) thanks alot
[17:36] <dutchie86> good luck with it Ongaku, no worries
[17:36] <JoeThomas> Dr_willis: Alright, well thanks for your help. I figured it was something replacing it every startup, but wasn't sure.
[17:37] <mjancaitis> Hey everybody
[17:37] <dutchie86> cya everyone, dutchie is off to get much needed zzzzz
[17:37] <dutchie86> s
[17:37] <ViP3R> hi
[17:37] <anonym_> i want to install urbanterror
[17:37] <IndyGunFreak> urban terror?
[17:37] <Dr_willis> !find urban
[17:37] <Dr_willis> thats in the repos now isent it?
[17:37] <anonym_> i have 2 files .i386
[17:37] <ubotu> File urban found in fortunes-pl
[17:38] <mjancaitis> Last two days, when I get up, my network is disconnected, which is fine, I can deal with that, but when I go to reconnect, my keyboard becomes completely nonresponsive, while the mouse still works... any ideas?
[17:39] <Velcro_MM> Fluxbuntu is even lighte weight and more responsive than Xubuntu, eh?
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: if it is, i can't find it.
[17:39] <Velcro_MM> lighter
[17:39] <Decepticon> somebody needs to update http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq "The current stable release is 7.04, sometimes referred to by its development name of Feisty Fawn."
[17:39] <rolf_> Hallo vom Hegau
[17:39] <sanguisdex> hi there I am running ubuntu and just installed phpmyadmin using the package manager.  does any one know where I go to access that?
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: yes, but not as user friendly if you ask me.
[17:40] <kelsin> Velcro_MM: to learn more about the main differences you should check out the fluxbox and xfce main websites.
[17:40] <bazhang> Velcro_MM: that little ram will be better with something light as flux
[17:40] <Pelo> sanguisdex, did you check in the admin menu ?
[17:40] <Velcro_MM> IndyGunFreak, well user-friendliness is important to me, so maybe I'll go with Xubuntu
[17:40] <IndyGunFreak> Velcro_MM: thats obvioiusly open to opinion, i like Flux, but i don't find it as user friendly as xfce/gnome
[17:41] <sanguisdex> I did now
[17:41]  * Pelo wonders how his totaly computer noob aunt is doing with xubuntu 
[17:41] <Pelo> sanguisdex,  and ?
[17:41] <sanguisdex> phpMyadmin is an in brower operated program
[17:41] <bazhang> hehe
[17:41]  * IndyGunFreak thinks Pelo's aunt is a genius!
[17:41] <Velcro_MM> okay, I will check out the websites for Fluxbuntu and Xubuntu
[17:41] <sanguisdex> so its not there
[17:41] <kelsin> Velcro_MM: fluxbox is just a windows manager and doesn't provide many of the features that KDE/Gnome/XFCE provide, I would describe as minimalist, and therefore probably less user-friendly
[17:41] <game> bazhang: thank you !!!!!!!!
[17:41] <bazhang> game: no worries
[17:42] <game> GRocket: thank you !!!!!!!!!!
[17:42] <bazhang> game: to run it just open the terminal and type the name for example rkhunter
[17:42] <ViP3R> ive been a windows user my whole life and now im thinking of going 2 linux, would the switch b hard?
[17:42] <game> you guys where such a big help
[17:42] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, not sure , it was her first comp ( given to her by a cousin) with an english win2k on it,  she wanted a french os, so I installed xubu,  she was a bit low on the mem , it wasn't great, and I didn'T hear back from here,  I hope it all went well after taht
[17:42] <LadyNikon> ViP3R: what kind of programs do you like to run?
[17:42] <IndyGunFreak> ViP3R: yes
[17:43] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  i may be thinking of some alternative repos. :) Warzone is now in the repos  at least.
[17:43] <kelsin> Velcro_MM: and if those websites don't explain enough, check out the main sites for Fluxbox and Xfce the programs the *buntu distros are based on
[17:43] <LadyNikon> ViP3R: it really depends on what you use.. and how much you use them
[17:43] <bazhang> ViP3R: not if you aren't afraid of some reading :}
[17:43] <Pelo> sanguisdex, maybe you need to start it from command line or from within the browser
[17:43] <IndyGunFreak> Dr_willis: probably, i couldn't find it in any of mine
[17:43] <ViP3R> i usally run music programs and firefox
[17:43] <sanguisdex> Pelo:  yeah that is what I was asking
[17:43] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  of course last i tried it. i just downloaded it. untared it to a dir in the users home dir.. and ran it from there
[17:43] <IndyGunFreak> ViP3R: you shoudln't have to many probs..
[17:43] <sanguisdex> as to where it was installed
[17:43]  * Pelo wants a myst like game for linux that he can get from free
[17:43] <Arct> Hi, I just accidentally deleted some mp3s - they're not appearing in my deleted items folder - how can I recover them!?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  then i died and died and died and died some more.. so gave up on it. :)
[17:43] <LadyNikon> ViP3R: yeah you are good
[17:43] <sanguisdex> its not in the local host dir
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:44] <kelsin> Arct: deleted them with rm in the shell?
[17:44] <ViP3R> is there any way to keep all my current media files when i switch to linux?
[17:44] <Pelo> sanguisdex, executables can usualy be found in  /bin /sbin /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[17:44] <Dr_willis> ViP3R,  depends on what you mean exatly.
[17:44] <bazhang> ViP3R: when dual booting?
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> ViP3R: back them up to a Cd/DVD/external drive, put them on a partition that you do't touch when you install Linux.
[17:44] <LadyNikon> ViP3R: back them up onto something else?
[17:44] <Arct> kelsin - er, had them highlighted, I must have knocked 'delete' on my keyboard =(
[17:45] <minerale> I'm trying to get networking on a ubuntu machine, the ipw2200 wireless driver gives me  errors: ipw2200: Failed to send TX)POWER: command timed out
[17:45] <bazhang> minerale: on gutsy or feisty
[17:45] <Dr_willis> delete key - in the file manager. normally moves them to the trashcan. SHIFT-Delete i think delete them idmeiatly.
[17:45] <Pelo> minerale, try looking up the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org or you can also try in #networking
[17:46] <kelsin> Then they should be in the trash (which is the .Trash folder in your home directory as well). If you permantly deleted them liek Dr_willis says you're outta luck without a lot of low level filesystem work that's above my head at least
[17:46] <mariocesar_bo> Hi, I need this file ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to use bazaar on launchpad, but i don't have this file? how do I get it?
[17:46] <kelsin> mariocesar_bo: "cd .ssh; ssh-keygen"
[17:46] <Pelo> mariocesar_bo,  are you aware that  .ssh is a hidden folder ?
[17:46] <mariocesar_bo> Pelo: of course
[17:46] <kelsin> mariocesar_bo: will create id_rsa and id_rsa.pub if you truly need id_dsa you need to read about the options to ssh-keygen
[17:46] <Pelo> mariocesar_bo,  just checking
[17:47] <kelsin> mariocesar_bo: by default it uses rsa
[17:47] <tiss_me_here> howdy all
[17:47] <mariocesar_bo> Pelo: kelsin: thanks, :D
[17:47] <bazhang> hi
[17:47]  * Pelo thinks he identified a texan
[17:48] <Pelo> !hi | bazhang tiss_me_here
[17:48] <ubotu> bazhang tiss_me_here: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:48] <tiss_me_here> <<<not texan :)
[17:48] <kelsin> mariocesar_bo: (also, make sure you find the option for dsa if you need it and not just name the rsa file dsa, that won't quite work if launchpad truly needs a dsa key)
[17:48] <bazhang> I was saying hi to tiss haha
[17:48] <mariocesar_bo> kelsin: thanks, I am getting an error of Invalid Key
[17:49] <kelsin> mariocesar_bo: with the ssh-keygen command?
[17:49] <mariocesar_bo> kelsin: I would read the man, to figure it out
[17:49] <mariocesar_bo> kelsin: no, with the launchpad registration
[17:49] <kelsin> make sure you have a dsa key if you need that, and make sure you're uploading the .pub file, not the one without the extension
[17:50] <ompaul> !launchpad
[17:50] <ubotu> Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[17:50] <kelsin> past that I don't know launchpad so good luck :)
[17:50] <Dr_willis> actually dosetn gnome put deleted things in .local/Trash or somthing like that? or is that kde?
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> .Trash
[17:51] <bazhang> thought it was .trash
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> cap T
[17:51] <Pelo> Dr_willis, in gnome it's in ~/.Trash , unless you are running root
[17:51] <jacob> there's a new update for gnome
[17:51] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  i some how lost 15gb of hd spacve the other day. :) had stuff in .Trash and .local/share/Trash Wonderd why the 2 dirs where not linked.. actually wondered why there was 2 dirs...
[17:52] <Jack_Sparrow> one root one user
[17:52] <Dr_willis> shouldent the root's trash be in /root/.Trash?
[17:52] <Pelo> Dr_willis, .local/share/Trash might have been created by a specific app, I had some strange stuff happen with wine like that
[17:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm wonder if i got cruft in there...
[17:53] <Dr_willis> So.. in summery  KDE and GNOME both should be using .Trash  then?
[17:53] <kelsin> depends, if you are in a whole root's gnome session yes, but if you just ran a command with sudo "command" it might still have $HOME set to your users home and then use that users .Trash folder
[17:53] <lockd> there is a ~/.local/share/Trash
[17:53] <ena27> haj
[17:53] <Dr_willis> lockd,  yea - and in that dir. thers some extra trash info .. not sure where its comming from.
[17:54] <Csaba> how do i launch trashbin or showdesktop from Avant Dock i deleted my bottom panel and made shortcuts on top panel but i can get them on dock
[17:54] <Pelo> Dr_willis, I just checked,  that ~/.local/share/Trash is where utorrent on wine deletes to on my comp,  I changed the /Trash part to a symlink to ~/.Trash on mine to take care of the problem
[17:54] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  ok. It may been wine/Picassa doing the dirty work then. :)
[17:55] <Pelo> Dr_willis, I don'T think ~/.Trash is  interface dependent,  it's a linux default as far as I know
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  yea thats what i did onmy other machines.. Linked all the trash's together. We need a Trash RFC Standard!
[17:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:55] <lockd> everything of mine is in ~/.local/share/Trash
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow> check also /root/.Trash
[17:55] <ena27> jhkuyu
[17:55] <Dr_willis> I know that  Freedesktop.org site has a bit of info on how things should handle trash.
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Im constantly gettting memory sticks/usb thumb drives with extra .Trash taking up space.
[17:56] <riotkittie> arrgh. hate that.
[17:56] <lockd> what there needs to be is a trash command, and you can configure for all programs
[17:56] <Pelo> Dr_willis, that I normal I beleive ,  each "device" get's it's own trash
[17:57] <ena27> lllll
[17:57]  * Pelo needs to check his grammar before hitting henter
[17:57] <Pelo> enter
[17:57] <riotkittie> henter.
[17:57] <lockd> and if device is like 5gb or less, you can set to trash it to hdd or something
[17:57]  * Pelo wonders what is going on , he can'T be drunk , it's barely 1 pm 
[17:57] <tiss_me_here> grins with pelo
[17:58] <game> n2diy: i installed them but i cant find then
[17:58] <riotkittie> i spiked your coffee while you werent looking
[17:58] <bazhang> game: run them from the terminal
[17:59] <game> bazhang: can you tell me how to ? and do i need to do it like that all the time?
[17:59] <bazhang> need sudo for rkhunter?
[17:59] <Sopor> Swar'
[18:00] <Sopor> Hum.. 'Night
[18:00] <Sopor> wrong window
[18:00] <Sopor> ( :
[18:00] <Pelo> bazhang, yes
[18:00] <bazhang> game: no need to run them all the time
[18:00] <bazhang> game: sudo rkhunter
[18:00] <wsv123457> hello
[18:00] <bazhang> Pelo: thanks!
[18:00] <Pelo> I beleive that rkhunter is installed and in cron by default in gutsy now
[18:01] <game> bazhang: ok now it gave me a list
[18:01] <bullgard1> I added to the Ubuntu 7.10 Grub kernel line the boot parameter "vga=791" and rebootet. Now (http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/19067/) all consoles are black. Ubuntu resolved (in line 47) a "colour dummy device 80x25" and (line #201) a "device ptyrd". What went wrong?
[18:01] <bazhang> Pelo: not default here-though I'm using Kubuntu
[18:01] <riotkittie> bullgard1: do you have an ati?
[18:01] <bazhang> game: there may be a warning, but that is normal
[18:01] <bullgard1> riotkittie: yes.
[18:02] <Pelo> bazhang,  I'm fairly certain I didn't crontab it and it runs everyday at around 8 am on my comp
[18:02] <Livestong> I have two Monitor 1
[18:02] <Livestong> I need a Mon 2
[18:02] <bazhang> Pelo: thanks for that!
[18:02] <psycoheroe> hi
[18:02] <Livestong> Any ideas?
[18:03] <sam__> Hi iam trying to get Firestarter and DHCPd to work at the same time.
[18:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !cinerella
[18:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cinerella - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:03] <wsv123457> totem?
[18:03] <riotkittie> bullgard1: i do not have an answer but have heard of similar problems amongst ati users, especially those with older cards
[18:03] <bazhang> sam__: you can't connect to the internet?
[18:03] <jacob> what is win32?
[18:03] <Jack_Sparrow> sam__: You understand that firestarter is an iptable manager and not a firewall right
[18:04] <ompaul> jacob, nothing to ask here about ask in ##windows
[18:04] <jrgp> Surroundsound in gutsy seems like it is impossible to work. I've got the .asoundrc file with the same fix that worked in feisty for surround, but in gutsy I get some error that it doesn't understand the pcm module surround51. anyone know of a solution? google didn't help for me.
[18:04] <Livestong> I have a screen problem
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !win32codecs
[18:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:04] <Livestong> I have 2 Screen 1's
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[18:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:04] <sam__> Yes.  I am using a machine to be a firewall, one nic connected to cable modem and one for internal network
[18:04] <wsv123457> cant seem to get totem to play DVD
[18:04] <sam__> I can run firewall and have it work between the two networks.
[18:04] <wsv123457> naybody/
[18:04] <Csaba> how do i launch trashbin or showdesktop from Avant Dock i deleted my bottom panel and made shortcuts on top panel but i can get them on dock
[18:04] <wsv123457> anybody/
[18:05] <Pelo> later folks , gotta go
[18:05] <bazhang> wsv123457: see link above
[18:05] <wsv123457> anybody?
[18:05] <sam__> However if I enable DHCPd to run on my local network, then firestarter fails to start, no error message given
[18:05] <Csaba> do i need to learn about gnome launching or what?
[18:05] <bazhang> bye pelo
[18:05] <ompaul> !enter | wsv123457
[18:05] <ubotu> wsv123457: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:05] <Do0oDz> hello .. I'm on gutsy gibbon .. and having problems with amsn .. a couple of days while installing wine in the output I got that there are some packages that aren't used anymore so I autormoved them .. since then amsn doesnt give me sound alerts whenever a person gets online .....
[18:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[18:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[18:05] <ompaul> !restricted | wsv123457
[18:05] <ubotu> wsv123457: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:05] <XBehave> is there a way to soften a link?
[18:06] <bazhang> XBehave: not sure what you mean
[18:06] <Smiky> Ciao a tutti !
[18:06] <XBehave> i made a link without the -s tag and want to cahnge it to a soft link
[18:06] <bazhang> !it | Smiky
[18:06] <ubotu> Smiky: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sam__: firestarter is NOT like Zone alarm where it runs every time you boot...
[18:07] <DECUSgeek> XBehave: unlink
[18:07] <sam__> Can someone tell me where the error log for firestarter is stored?
[18:07] <Dr_willis> XBehave,  just delete it and remake it. IF theres any other hard links to the file that is.. :)
[18:07] <DM|> Which one is closer to MS words formatting, Abiword or OOO?
[18:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sam__: Good luck with that..  later people
[18:07] <Dr_willis> DM|,  i woudl say OOO - abiword is rather simple.
[18:08] <bazhang> bye Jack_Sparrow
[18:08] <XBehave> i thought deleting a hard link deleted the data?
[18:08] <underdog5004> I need a remote desktop server that uses rdp...any suggestions?
[18:08] <DM|> Dr_Willis ok, cus they both open up with different formatting
[18:08] <XBehave> thx DECUSgeek didnt realise it was that simple
[18:08] <Dr_willis> XBehave,  a hard linkis another name for a file. Its identical to the origiaal file/name. If you have 2 hard links to the same data. they ARe the same file :)
[18:09] <exarkun> Do python-tz and python-matplotlib conflict horribly in Dapper, or is it just me?
[18:09] <Dr_willis> XBehave,  unlinking all the names to a file - delets the file. (or so my kernel book taught me ages ago)
[18:09] <John_R> w00t, hairy hardon is out. think i'll wait for the 8.04 version though. might stick the alpha in a vm or something
[18:09] <ptakmen>  hi guys! ubuntu freezes right after X's loaded, why may it be so?
[18:09] <kurnia_chan> #jakarta
[18:09] <bazhang> John_R: do you have a question?
[18:09] <quigz> anyone know if there is a way to program
[18:09] <DM|> John_R i hope you didnt do that on purpose
[18:10] <Livestong> ATI Raidon, Drivers are working, but i now have Two Screen1's and only the left screen on VGA works, my DVI one is not working
[18:10] <quigz> anyone know if there is a way to program FPGA board in ubuntu i cant find adpet suite for linux
[18:10] <Do0oDz>  hello .. I'm on gutsy gibbon .. and having problems with amsn .. a couple of days while installing wine in the output I got that there are some packages that aren't used anymore so I autormoved them .. since then amsn doesnt give me sound alerts whenever a person gets online ....
[18:10] <Livestong> The card is a RADION X1550
[18:11] <sam__> Can someone tell me where the firestarter error log is stored?
[18:11] <Livestong> Also Using Ubuntu 7.10
[18:11] <Dr_willis> sam__,  look in /var/log
[18:11] <sam__> dr_willis, does firestarter have its own separte log file?
[18:12] <DM|> sam__ only for events
[18:12] <Dr_willis> sam__,  no idea..  I dont use it.  since its a front end to the iptables. you may need to check the kernel logs and other iptables logs
[18:13] <sam__> dr_willis, thanks.
[18:13] <quigz> anyone know if there is a way to program FPGA board in ubuntu i cant find adept suite for linux
[18:14] <macro182> hi, do you know an app to split an iso file into 2 .zip or .rar? ;)
[18:14] <DM|> quigz there might be a KDE app , IDK, check with the guys in #kubuntu
[18:15] <quigz> kk thanks
[18:15] <eeeandrew> hi anyone able to help get my sound card working? I posted full details here
[18:16] <eeeandrew> sorry that was meant to be a link...
[18:17] <caravel> hi again - how to use alacarte revert function without to mess all the menus ??
[18:17] <robdig> eeeandrew: maybe, what's your problem
[18:17] <eeeandrew> ok heres the link with all the information for my problem any help would be appreciated
[18:17] <eeeandrew> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=628448
[18:17] <caravel> and how to cancel the revert menu, once it has messed it up ?
[18:18] <caravel> in other words, is there a way to rebuild the menus from scratch, restoring deleted elements ?
[18:19] <minerale> when I boot into gutsy the font is huge -- the font is 200 pixels wide
[18:19] <minerale> the minimize, mazimise and close buttons are 200 pixels wide too
[18:19] <Dr_willis> minerale,  is the font huge..or is just the res real low?
[18:19] <Csaba> how do i launch trashbin or showdesktop from Avant Dock i deleted my bottom panel and made shortcuts on top panel but i can get them on dock do i have to add them in launcher if so do i need to learn the command for this?
[18:19] <wi1> hi. i wanna set up a user account for my girlfriend. i want her to have all the usual user privileges like my account has. how do i do that?
[18:19] <robdig> eeeandrew: that's the same chip i have. are you using alsa driver? quick check is to double click on volume control, file, and see what is selected...
[18:19] <minerale> dr_willis: the rest seems normal, just the font (when typing username) and the menu bar
[18:20] <eeeandrew> robdig:I have no driver I@m not sure how to install them
[18:20] <robdig> eeeandrew: it should have installed itself...
[18:20] <stuart> uh, i clicked properties on a desktop file, and accidentally cancelled. now my desktop hung. how do i reset the desktop?
[18:20] <skel> robdig: do an lsmod and see what its name is
[18:20] <stefano> if i have a raid0 with two drives on an onboard controller and i hoop up a third drive, does this drive get recognized normally?
[18:20] <skel> robdig: then he can try doing a modprobe on it
[18:21] <eeeandrew> robdig there is a volume control option but its doesn't work...no sound even at full volume and I get rare bursts of static and whistling
[18:21] <stuart> is there anyway to reset the desktop without having to kill already running processes?
[18:22] <hotchip> Hey guys, is there anyone who can help me setup fuppes? It errors out on me during make. :(
[18:22] <robdig> skel: thx
[18:23] <eeeandrew> robdig/skel: whats a modprobe?
[18:23] <John_R> stuart: you can switch users and then switch back
[18:23] <skel> robdig: I think it'll be like snd_intel or something similar
[18:23] <stuart> John_R, thanks!
[18:23] <skel> eeeandrew: modprobe allows you to load kernel modules (drivers) for hardware support
[18:24] <robdig> eeeandrew: as skel suggested, it looks like my system is using modules snd and snd_page_alloc
[18:24] <skel> eeeandrew: though most of the time ubuntu properly detects your hardware and loads them for you, sometimes not the case
[18:24] <eeeandrew> ok I@m still not great with the terminal or anything could you talk me thru it?
[18:24] <adamonline45> Good morning!  I'm trying to get ndiswrapper working.  My driver installed ok, but when I got to modprobe ndiswrapper, I get the error "Fatal: Could not open '/lib/mdoules/2.6.22-14-generic/misc/ndiswrapper.ko".  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I've searched tirelessly but nothing's worked so far... :(
[18:24] <d03boy> I have dapper. Can I upgrade to heron easily?
[18:25] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  you may want to wait a few months for  Heron to actually get relesed. :0
[18:25] <skel> eeeandrew: well we have to figure out what module needs to be loaded or if its already loaded first
[18:25] <ompaul> d03boy, no - you must go one step at a time, and it is good idea to upgrade one release at a time
[18:25] <skel> eeeandrew: at the terminal type: lsmod | grep snd
[18:25] <skel> eeeandrew: then use pastebin to paste your results
[18:25] <minerale> when I boot into gutsy the font is huge -- the font is 200 pixels wide
[18:25] <minerale> the login username font that is
[18:25] <d03boy> guess i'll just reinstall then
[18:26] <skel> eeeandrew: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[18:26] <adamonline45> do I need to use the alternate install cd to use ndiswrapper?
[18:26] <loris> Bsr à tous Qel est le programme pour telecharger des musiques ?
[18:27] <bjames> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 and find it really hard to actually grab window edges to resize windows - is there a way to increase the window bored grab region?
[18:27] <ompaul> !fr | loris
[18:27] <ubotu> loris: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:27] <loris> ompaul : ok merci j'ai pas fait attention ..
[18:28] <cavemaned> I am new to ubuntu I have tried it a few times. this time I trashed my MS machine, so no turning back
[18:28] <tmba> hi, I'm writing a shell script, but I would like to pipe the output through the system logger to /var/log/messages. How would I go about to do that?
[18:28] <bjames> cavemaned: brave guy
[18:28] <hotchip> anyone who can do me a favor and install fuppes, do a deb package and send it to me?
[18:28] <bazhang> welcome cavemaned
[18:28] <skel> bjames: you can hit alt-f8 if the window has focus
[18:28] <skel> bjames: and resize that way
[18:28] <tmba> I tried 'command | logger' but it did not work
[18:28] <Dimension128> bjames: if you hold alt and MiddleMouse drag anywhere in the window, you will resize it.
[18:28] <adamonline45> bjames: I'm using kubuntu, same problem...
[18:28] <tomd123> cavemanned: good for you
[18:28] <bjames> cavemaned: I run linux on the laptop and server, but I keep a windows machine handy
[18:28] <cavemaned> I was hoping to find some help setting up samba
[18:28] <heeven> cavemaned: nice :)
[18:29] <adamonline45> skel: You may want to try echo hello >> file.txt
[18:29] <eeeandrew> skel/robdig: pasted into the paste thing...did that help?
[18:29] <bjames> cheers for the tips
[18:29] <skel> eeeandrew: paste the link to the paste :)
[18:29] <skel> bjames: no worries :)
[18:29] <robdig> eeeandrew: you need to paste the link for us
[18:30] <eeeandrew> *feels like an idiot* here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46482/
[18:30] <bazhang> hehe
[18:30] <skel> eeeandrew: ok it looks like it loaded the driver.. try this, type: alsamixer
[18:31] <quigz> anyone know if there is a way to program FPGA board in ubuntu i cant find adept suite for linux
[18:31] <skel> eeeandrew: then check if anything is muted
[18:31] <playya> ah
[18:31] <skel> eeeandrew: you may have to scroll back and forth
[18:32] <robdig> eeeandrew: that looks just like mine except that you've got one additional module, snd_hda_codec, but that shouldn't cause a problem...
[18:32] <adamonline45> Is anyone here using a macbook?  I need some assistance from my brethren 8)
[18:32] <eeeandrew> skel: how do u tell if its muted?
[18:33] <skel> eeeandrew: it'll say mm
[18:33] <skel> eeeandrew: it might be easier to right-click on the sound control
[18:33] <bigfuzzyjesus_> !netsplit
[18:33] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[18:33] <skel> eeeandrew: and "open volume control"
[18:33] <bazhang> adamonline45: ubuntu-tutorials.com has some nice stuff on that
[18:34] <eeeandrew> skel:did it with the volume control and unmuted everythin
[18:34] <Jaszbo> ! broadcom
[18:34] <fizzl1> quick question: in the terminal, what's the best way to remove all files in a directory while leaving the folder itself intact?
[18:34] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[18:34] <robdig> eeeandrew:  can you go to system->preferences->sound
[18:34] <Gwildor> im trying to play a wmv (ubuntu 7.10), totem gstreamer complained of missing codec for audio/video(unkown), totem-xine complains of "Windows Screen Video" not being handled...... any idea?
[18:35] <adamonline45> bazhang: Thank you.  I've been there, they're pretty good, but this ndiswrapper stuff is killin' me... :O  They dont' tackle what I need, specifically
[18:35] <skel> eeeandrew: ok if that doesn't change anything, then go to "file -> change device ->" and see if theres another option not selected?
[18:35] <skel> eeeandrew: you could be looking at OSS options when you're actually using ALSO
[18:35] <skel> eeeandrew: *ALSA
[18:35] <corruptionoflulz> !codecs | Gwildor
[18:35] <ubotu> Gwildor: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:35] <skel> eeeandrew: or vice-versa
[18:35] <bazhang> adamonline45: for the wireless? what is the card?
[18:35] <zpertee> does anyone know how to get verizon usb720 to work with ubuntu?
[18:35] <eeeandrew> skel: the volumes working now....but the left speaker is making a high ptiched squeak instead of the sound
[18:36] <adamonline45> bazhang: It's an Atheros.  I get the driver loaded, but I get an error when i try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[18:36] <eeeandrew> skel: now its stopped working again
[18:37] <skel> eeeandrew: you may need to mute somethings and not others.. or balance levels
[18:37] <skel> eeeandrew: do you have a mic enabled?
[18:37] <bazhang> adamonline45: which atheros? not in madwifi?
[18:38] <fizzl1> in the terminal, what's the best way to remove all files in a directory while leaving the folder itself intact?
[18:38] <paulinio> pa
[18:38] <NKD-> hi all
[18:38] <quigz> what does the red text mean?
[18:38] <paulinio> klnhask;fh'he
[18:38] <paulinio> 'wehr
[18:38] <whta> just did a fresh install and my sound is pretty faint compared to my last install. I remember having to fix this before but i don't remember what I did. all volume is maxed out. where can i fix this?
[18:38] <aronc71> zas
[18:39] <eeeandrew> skel:microphone is on
[18:39] <adamonline45> bazhang: It's an AR5418, 802.11a/b/g/n PCIE rev 1.  Madwifi recognized it, but I was unable to connect to my access point...
[18:40] <bazhang> adamonline45: via gui or cli?
[18:40] <adamonline45> cli
[18:40] <adamonline45> is there a gui?
[18:40] <adamonline45> :O
[18:40] <robdig> fizzl1: cd into the directory, then use rm
[18:40] <NKD-> Anyone familiar with iptables? I found a basic "cut n paste" to getting basic filtering going buti want to make sure i understand what its doing, so i actually learn somethin
[18:41] <adamonline45> bazhang: I'musing CLI.  Is there a GUI? :O
[18:41] <fizzl1> robdig: well, i'm wanting to put this into a script and not have to cd really... would it just be "rm /path/to/dir/*" ?
[18:41] <bazhang> adamonline45: does it recognize your access point?
[18:42] <tomd123> fizzl1: yes
[18:42] <adamonline45> bazhang: I can see it in the scan, if that's what you mean...
[18:42] <robdig> fizzl1: yes
[18:42] <tomd123> fizzl1: cd into a directory and type 'rm *'
[18:42] <bazhang> adamonline45: what command do you give it to connect via cli?
[18:42] <tomd123> that will remove everything in that directory w/o deleting the actual directory
[18:42] <Nobl1> can I run two vnc servers?
[18:42] <fizzl1> robdig & tomd123 thanks!
[18:43] <Nobl1> or have it listen on two ports?
[18:43] <eeeandrew> skel: I muted the mic and tried again. The sound is now completely gone. I unmuted the mic again and still no sound.
[18:43] <playya_> hi
[18:43] <skel> eeeandrew: check your rca jack?
[18:43] <adamonline45> bazhang: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo <-- I was following this.  iwconfig ath0 ap XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Nobl1,  you could run 'vncserver' several dozen or hundred times if you had the machine to take the load. :)
[18:44] <legacyhat> # Appears as XENO
[18:44] <playya_> is it possible to iterate over everything i got from apt_pkg.GetCache() ?
[18:44] <bazhang> adamonline45: so to connect you give the command sudo dhclient ath0?
[18:44] <eeeandrew> skel: they are internal speakers
[18:44] <skel> hmm
[18:45] <adamonline45> bazhang: Yes, and it doesn't resolve...
[18:45] <bazhang> adamonline45: no dhcpoffers?
[18:45] <adamonline45> bazhang: Nope.
[18:45] <bazhang> adamonline45: is this an encrypted network?
[18:45] <eeeandrew> skel:I think the technical is "completely dead"
[18:46] <skel> eeeandrew: is this an older system?
[18:46] <legacyhat> hey I need help , I was installing several programs using apt-get and my laptop battery died and now my apt seems to be corrupted.
[18:46] <malakar> mac mini + ubuntu + without monitor has anybody tried, it just refuses to boot
[18:46] <Jaszbo> Hi room. How do I add a wireless access point manually via terminal?
[18:46] <bazhang> adamonline45: what about via network-manager the gui?
[18:46] <eeeandrew> nope Toshiba Equim L40-10X just out this summer. its a laptop and the sound function fine from my Vista partition altho I'm trying to avoid using that
[18:46] <adamonline45> bazhang: I don't think it's encrypted, but it's got a password... Not the password that asks for either 13 or 20 digits; or whatever it is; just a regular password.  I belive that's WEP, and that's what I was trying to do...
[18:47] <malakar> there is a bug, but the kernel option mentioned is only for radeon chipset https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/51519
[18:47] <skel> eeeandrew: so between the time sound started working and stopped did you change anything?
[18:47] <skel> eeeandrew: or it just died?
[18:47] <bazhang> adamonline45: this your home network--can you try without encryption first?
[18:47] <eeeandrew> skel:I started a song, it whistled so I stopped the song and then when I tried to play the song again it had died
[18:47] <adamonline45> bazhang: I could see it in the network manager, but every time I clicked on 'administrator mode' and entered my password in order to be able to configure it, it would just revert to normal user
[18:48] <spiffman> anyone know what the differences between vncviewer, vnc4viewer, xvnc4viewer, etc, are?
[18:48] <skel> eeeandrew: what did you use to play the song?
[18:48] <adamonline45> bazhang: I suppose I could give it a shot!  I'm using Kubuntu though; I hear there's a bug with using the default network manager with madwifi.
[18:48] <MrPink_> /join #eclipse
[18:48] <MrPink_> /join #eclipse
[18:49] <MrPink_> argh ^^
[18:49] <Python1320> MrPink_...
[18:49] <legacyhat> anyone have any suggestions?
[18:49] <Dr_willis> what if i dont want to MrPink_  :)
[18:49] <eeeandrew> movie player first, then tried rythmnbox music player and when it didn't work I tried movie player again and no sound there either
[18:49] <bazhang> adamonline45: I use kubuntu as well--though not a macbook, I've got a powerbook that connects well
[18:49] <Python1320> nah..ill check
[18:49] <Python1320> :D
[18:49] <skel> eeeandrew: is it still open?
[18:49] <Antioch> How can I use echo with sudo?
[18:49] <tomd123> sudo echo? lol
[18:49] <Python1320> :D
[18:49] <Antioch> it doesnt work, lol?
[18:49] <eeeandrew> closed them after the sound stopped working
[18:49] <MrPink_> Dr_willis: Python1320: sry I didn't mean to, I was holding down shift while pressing enter ^^
[18:49] <legacyhat> :( must be a tough issue uh oh
[18:50] <malakar> mac mini and ubuntu help needed
[18:50] <Python1320> MrPink_, lol ok :D
[18:50] <skel> eeeandrew: hmm I wonder if something is locking the sound device
[18:50] <Antioch> sudo echo 3 > power_level, permission denied
[18:50] <bazhang> malakar: a server or a desktop
[18:50] <tomd123> antioch, if you have to have root permissions for echo, you better reinstall linux
[18:50] <ssd> hi all how can I automatically reconfigure the video settings like at the install of the os ?
[18:50] <adamonline45> bazhang: Oh cool.  Alright.  Well, I got rid of all but the tar for madwifi.  Do you think I should give it another go?  Will you be here for a while? <:D  Oh, I'm using gutsy gibbon... What do you use?
[18:50] <tomd123> antioch, type 'cd' enter
[18:51] <tomd123> then try it
[18:51] <malakar> @bazhang i installed ubuntu on the mac mini, intend to use it as a server, but the problem is it doesn't boot without a  monitor
[18:51] <Antioch> tomd123, No. I'm trying to set the power level for my wireless device manually. To change things in the /sys/bus/ directory you need root permissions
[18:51] <tomd123> antioch, your probably trying to create a file in a folder you don't have permissions in
[18:51] <skel> Amaranth: is the file immutable?
[18:51]  * legacyhat waves
[18:51] <Jaszbo> ssd: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:51] <legacyhat> any out there can help?
[18:51] <dustin> need help getting my laptop to work a wireless network
[18:51] <ssd> jaszbo: yeah but I never had to do that when I installed ubuntu
[18:52] <bazhang> adamonline45: I've got to go out for a while :{ I would like to help, but work calls--defiinitely stick with it though
[18:52] <Metal03> Hi there, how can we know if the new wine that got released yesterday is available for Ubuntu?
[18:52] <ssd> jaszbo: i don't know the answers to all those questions
[18:52] <bazhang> malakar: why not install the ubuntu server?
[18:52] <tomd123> antioch, type "sudo nano power_level_file" and change the value
[18:52] <virtuososteve> hey
[18:52] <skel> eeeandrew: go to system -> preferences -> sound
[18:52] <Smesharik> Привет
[18:52] <Jaszbo> ssd: what are you trying to do?
[18:52] <malakar> @bazhang there is a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/51519, but the kernel option mentioned is only for radeon chipset, mine has a intel chipset
[18:52] <spiffman> how do i vnc into a computer and actually see the desktop, not just gray with a terminal?
[18:52] <Antioch> tomd123, ok, thanks
[18:52] <eeeandrew> skel:ok did that
[18:53] <Dr_willis> MetaBot,  theres a unsupoported 'latest wine' repo you can use.  I think i found out about it at the !easysource site
[18:53] <jimjam> Ooh, I'm having trouble configuring X server on an Intel GMA x3100. Has anyone seen this configured properly?
[18:53] <Dr_willis> !easysource | MetaBot
[18:53] <ubotu> MetaBot: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[18:53] <skel> eeeandrew: in the sounds tab, is "enable software sound mixing" checked?
[18:53] <dustin> need help getting my laptop to work a wireless network
[18:53] <legacyhat> Setting up briquolo (0.5.6-1ubuntu1) ...rndpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format errorrndpkg: error processing briquolo (--configure):rn subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2rnErrors were encountered while processing:rndpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
[18:53] <virtuososteve> how do i fix the splash when the cpu starts, it doesn't come up
[18:53] <ssd> jaszbo: well after reinstalling a new video card, I only have a command prompt
[18:53] <adamonline45> bazhang: Alright, I'll give it a shot.  I'll see if any of my neighbor's unsecured networks work 8)  I don't know how to get into my router to change it around... I think I need a windows client...  Have fun at work, thanks for the help 8)  It's impossible to get help for the tired ol' topic of wifi 8)
[18:53] <dustin> need help getting my laptop to work a wireless network
[18:53] <eeeandrew> skel:yes
[18:53] <Jaszbo> ssd:What kind of video card?
[18:53] <stodge> Are there any binaries for codeblocks for Gutsy?
[18:53] <ssd> jaszbo: can't it do some sort of autodetect to configure the xorg ?
[18:53] <malakar> @bazhang the problem i am facing is it gonna work with ubuntu-server?
[18:54] <dustin> need help getting my laptop to work a wireless network
[18:54] <bazhang> got to step out for a while see yall soon
[18:54] <eses> ?
[18:54] <adamonline45> bazhang: Take it easy!
[18:54] <Xdange1> which channel is for gaming??
[18:54] <ssd> jaszbo: nvidia somthing,.
[18:54] <dustin> can anyone help
[18:54] <tomd123> dustin, what are you trying to do
[18:54] <Dogfishguzzler> emc
[18:55] <Munk333_> if I wanted to directly access my webcam for dev reasons what would I use? I tried using cutecom at /dev/video0 but it fails to open
[18:55] <Xdange1> which ubuntu IRC channel is for gaming??
[18:55] <skel> eeeandrew: can you paste the contents of "ps -auxww" into pastebin and give me the link?
[18:55] <tomd123> dustin, connect to a wireless network?
[18:55] <Jaszbo> ssd:OK. do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose the vesa driver.
[18:55] <skel> eeeandrew: err output not contents
[18:56] <Xdange1> which ubuntu IRC channel is for gaming??
[18:56] <TigranG> Is there anyway to restore everything back to original without re-installing?
[18:56] <dustin> trying to
[18:56] <skel> Xdange1: try #cedega
[18:56] <dustin> cant get it to work
[18:56] <tomd123> ok
[18:56] <adamonline45> Does anyone know if I can/should use amd64 version of gutsy for an intel core 2 duo?  The tut I'm reading says I can, but it just seems... Odd!
[18:56] <Xdange1> skel: Thanks
[18:56] <tomd123> is the wireless button on your laptop turned on?
[18:57] <skel> Xdange1: np
 yes you can
[18:57] <malakar> ubuntu + mac mini help needed
[18:57] <doxid> hi.. anyone have a good rar package manager?
[18:57] <skel> Xdange1: if you mean like, gaming in general, there won't be much on this network, might want to try irc.enterthegame.com
 running it and it works perfect
[18:57] <dustin> doesnt have one i cansee
[18:57] <Munk333_> adamonline45: yea, me 2
[18:58] <adamonline45> bernier: Thank you.  Does that processor run 64-bit? :O I mean, I know it runs the software, but does it utilize it?
[18:58] <eeeandrew> skel: heres the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46486/
[18:58] <adamonline45> Munk333_: TY for the added confidence 8)
 yes it does all new intel processor can run in 64 bit
[18:58] <dustin> tomd123: can you help
[18:58] <doxid> i'm using 7-zip atm but it seams to fail from time to time unpacking rar files... so i'm asking if anyone know a good rar-application for linux/ubuntu  (console or not i don't care) :P
[18:59] <[BlackOrc]> somebody knows why my external hard drive is always shown at the beginning when i started but disappears than?
[18:59] <bernier> doxid: sudo apt-get install rar
[18:59] <tomd123> dustin, ok, click the network icon on your task bar, should be top right
[18:59] <bernier> doxid: with this you can extract rar win the default ubuntu unpacker
[18:59] <psycho-j> hello everyone
[18:59] <tomd123> dustin, it should look like two computers
[18:59] <adamonline45> bernier: Pardon if this is getting ot, but how does it do it?  Does it do some sort of logical halving of the processor to get twice the bits, does it run faster, is there an advantage?
[19:00] <dustin> im familar with ubuntu
[19:00] <dustin> i just cant get to work
[19:00] <Undead_Zeus> is there a packet sniffer for ubuntu? i am also curious about a partition manager
 I can't tell you exactly, you can read on it but it's certainly not slower than 32 bit
[19:00] <Smesharik> Здесь по русски говарят
[19:00] <tomd123> dustin, do you have madwifi installed for your wireless card then
[19:01] <dustin> no what is it
[19:01] <fx|RabBi1> can i integrate an existing windows installation inton virtualbox?
[19:01] <adamonline45> bernier: Alright, nice!  I'm going for it then 8)  Thank you.  Oh, one more thing... I can still use all the same software as before, right?  I don't need special 64-bit versions?
[19:01] <spiffman> how do i use vnc to see a remote desktop, including gnome (instead of a gray screen with a terminal)?
[19:01] <tomd123> dustin, wifi support for linux :P
[19:02] <poeloq> does the amount of installed software influence system performance?
[19:02] <dustin> k
[19:02] <tomd123> dustin, wait
[19:02] <dustin> i thank you
[19:02] <hotchip> Hey can anyone help me get Fuppes running?
[19:02] <eeeandrew> undead_Zeus: click applications>add or remove and do a search theres loads of packet sniffers
[19:02] <dustin> im not leaving
[19:02] <tomd123> dustin, go to system
[19:02] <skel> eeeandrew: looking now
[19:02] <tomd123> administration, restricted drivers
[19:02] <dustin> i know how to get
[19:03] <dgjones> !ru | Smesharik
[19:03] <ubotu> Smesharik: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[19:03] <dustin> o
[19:03] <Undead_Zeus> thanks eeeandrew
[19:03] <[BlackOrc]> somebody knows why my external hard drive is always shown at the beginning when i started but disappears than?
[19:03] <tomd123> dustin, do you have restricted drivers on, if not, enable
[19:03] <dustin> why restricked drivers
[19:03] <eeeandrew> skel:take as long as you need I appreciate all the help
[19:03] <dustin> yes
[19:03] <spiffman> how do i vnc into a computer and actually see the desktop, not just gray with a terminal?
[19:03] <psycho-j> is there anywhere i can get a complete video codec pack???
[19:04] <adamonline45> !codecs
[19:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:04] <skel> eeeandrew: no problem, I've been there :-P
[19:04] <Jaszbo> ! madwifi
[19:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:04] <daniss> HI all. I've an Atheros Wireles card.. the drivers  is active in restricted drivers dialog, but i can see it at networkmanager or anything.. pleas help :)
[19:04] <psycho-j> thanx
[19:04] <skel> eeeandrew: try: kill -1 5416    and if that doesn't work try logging out and back in
[19:05] <tomd123> dustin, dunno, i would look your card up and see if there are any issues for it then
[19:05] <adamonline45> daniss: I'm having the same problem right now
[19:05] <daniss> adamonline45, :)
[19:06] <adamonline45> daniss: I'm getting errors trying to modprobe ndiswrapper.  Are you using ndiswrapper or madwifi?
 sorry for the late answer, yes you can use all the same software, except for certain things
[19:06] <IrishDave> hey
[19:06] <eeeandrew> skel:doesn't seem to work it says:
[19:06] <eeeandrew> bash: kill: 5416: invalid signal specification
[19:06] <adamonline45> bernier: No problem, thanks!
[19:06] <Smesharik> Вы по русски говарите???
 like java for firefox, you need to install the 32 bit of firefox to be able to install java for it. but that's about only it
[19:07] <robdig> !ru ! Smesharik
[19:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru ! smesharik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <skel> eeeandrew: hmm ok try logging out and back in real quick
[19:07] <bernier> t<adamonline45> the 32 bit *version*
[19:07] <robdig> !ru | Smesharik
[19:07] <daniss> adamonline45, i'm trying tu use madwifi, but i need WEP so, i think i've to use ndwis too
[19:07] <ubotu> Smesharik: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[19:07] <eeeandrew> back shortly then
[19:07] <IrishDave> does anyone know why or how to get vga=834 in the grub bootline? i'm trying to get framebuffer resolution of 1400x1050
[19:07] <adamonline45> bernier: I'll remember that, thanks, I'm not too happy using Konqueror 8)
[19:07] <dustin> thank you all
[19:08] <riaal> where can I change a users umask?
[19:08] <robdig> IrishDave: think you just add it to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:08] <shun7> does any body have the ATI Radeon X700 mobility on a notebook, the fglxrc drivers dont do direct rendering, and the ati drivers are even worse
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> IrishDave: doubt you will get above 1024x768
[19:09] <[-Newbie-]> How to compile linux kernel 2.6.23.9 with patch?
[19:09] <Smesharik> А как?
[19:09] <adamonline45> daniss: this might be helpful... http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/18/how-to-configure-wireless-on-a-macbook-using-ndiswrapper/ I'm using a macbook, but you can get the general idea.   Crud I shouldn't have responded, I need to go afk for a bit... But anyway, ndiswrapper seems so simple compared to madwifi, but I can't get either working! gl!
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> IrishDave: HAve you looked over your xorg.conf
[19:09] <shun7> riaal, /etc/login.defs
[19:09] <[-Newbie-]> thx
[19:10] <smooker> hi again i forgot how im going to add my lan card dhcp to ubuntu ?
[19:10] <smooker> coz i dont see any...
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[19:10] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:10] <shayan> hello, does anyone know a free movie to be shown in public to introduce Linux and ubuntu
[19:11] <spiffman> how do i remote login to a computer and see the desktop?
[19:11] <skel> shayan: elephant dream
[19:11] <adrenergic> hello i need help regarding how-to connect to internet via dialup modem
[19:11] <daniss> adamonline45, thanks :) but, if i've the restricted driver enabled, i need the ndiswreapper or madwifi too?
[19:11] <skel> shayan: http://www.elephantsdream.org/
[19:12] <adrenergic> i think my ubuntu 7.04 doesn't detect my modem :(
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> shayan: check out youtube some good stuff on there
[19:12] <riaal> anyone know how to set a 077 as default umask on a new user?
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> adrenergic: Find the modem by going to a terminal and typing dmesg | grep ttyS         if it is a true hardware modem
[19:13] <shayan> Jack_Sparrow:  youtube does not have movies with good resolutions
[19:13] <Shearer> hello
[19:13] <Tom123> what's the procedure to find the exact kernel version where a certain bug started to appear?  Is there a repository of kernel images for all the different kernel versions somewhere?  I don't want to compile like 10 different kernels.
[19:13] <whta> how can i get emerald working properly in gutsy?
[19:13] <daniss> adrenergic, i was using wvdial a few time ago for dialup
[19:13] <eeeandrew> skel: thats me back the sound cards on again but the whistling sound during the login screen
[19:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !compiz
[19:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:13] <Shearer> which are the differences between desktop and alternate?
[19:13] <jshriver> greetings
[19:13] <jshriver> anyone here use the wis-go7007 driver?
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Shearer: desktop is gui install alt is text
[19:14] <adrenergic> does it need any driver installation?
[19:14] <jshriver> wondering if it's a v4l2 based driver or if it can only be used by gorecord
[19:14] <Smesharik> А вы можите все по РУССКИ ПИСАТЬ.
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ru
[19:14] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[19:14] <Shearer> Only the installer Jack_Sparrow ?
[19:14] <jshriver> The device works great, and the gorecord program is awesome.. but I can't watch it in realtime... if it was a v4l2 driver I could use mplayer and mencoder to better tune recording
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Shearer: pretty much..
[19:15] <skel> eeeandrew: thats really weird.. I've had issues when the mic is on and it gets feedback, but thats it
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Shearer: The alt seems to work for more people
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Shearer: The gui is good...  just some people have res problems
[19:16] <eeeandrew> skel:I've never heard it happen either and I'm a sound engineer!
[19:16] <Shearer> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:16] <smooker> anyone know how to add my lancard to ubuntu ? its dhcp .. but it doesnt show me my lan..
[19:16] <skel> eeeandrew: I'm trying to think of what else you could possibly try.. I would maybe mute one thing at a time to see if it stops
[19:16] <skel> eeeandrew: besides the main sound
[19:16] <skel> eeeandrew: is it surround sound card?
[19:17] <Stingy1> hi leute
[19:17] <southafrikanse> hello. I have no sound. In alsa mixer everything is unmuted but I still can't hear anything
[19:17] <Stingy1> sagt mal gibt es ne möglichkeit pgp komplett über die komandozeile zu bedienen?
[19:17] <eeeandrew> I don't know...it says HD audio
[19:17] <Stingy1> arr english chan sry
[19:18] <eeeandrew> southfrikanse:I@m having some sound anomalies as well do you know what card your using?
[19:18] <southafrikanse> eeeandrew, it says High Definition Audio
[19:18] <smultron> how is VLC legal to use, but installing the "ugly" codecs isn't? does VLC do something special?
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> smultron: Legal depends on where in the world you live
[19:19] <smultron> Jack_Sparrow: so is VLC illegal in the USA, too?
[19:19] <Vadi> How can I tell what type of ram do I have, and the max limit of how much can I have it?
[19:19] <hypa7ia> smultron: the "ugly" codecs are ugly because they violate various patents
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[19:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:20] <southafrikanse> eeeandrew, when I was with Ubuntu 7.04 I used this command: echo options snd-hda-intel model=lg | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobed/alsa-base but in Ubuntu 7.10 apparently this does't work
[19:21] <eeeandrew> southafrikanse: go into terminal and run "sudo lspci" and looks for the entry that says audio...that'll tell you what card...not sure if am the best person to help since I haven't managed to fix mine yet
[19:21] <Vadi> How can I tell what type of ram do I have, and the max limit of how much can I have it?
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: when you boot up it should show how much and after that what type
[19:22] <hypa7ia> Vadi: figure out what motherboard you have and look that up on the intertubes
[19:22] <southafrikanse> eeeandrew, "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[19:22] <hypa7ia> or that :)
[19:22] <Vadi> Jack_Sparrow: Hm it doesn't. And this is a laptop too.
[19:22] <Vadi> ThinkPad T40
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: cmos or bios should show something
[19:22] <eeeandrew> southafrikanse:unlucky its the same card as mine and we've just spent the last hour trying everything we can think of
[19:22] <hypa7ia> Vadi: google for thinkpad t40 specifications
[19:23] <robdig> Vadi: less /proc/meminfo may help
[19:23] <Vadi> Jack_Sparrow: No I just get an IBM logo and grub. Ok
[19:23] <southafrikanse> eeeandrew, :/
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: livecd has a memtest.. not sure if it tells you total ram or not
[19:23] <mellowjoy420> how can i rip my cds to mp3 (using lame) in 7.10?
[19:23] <southafrikanse> eeeandrew, but if the command I typed in Feisty worked why doens't it work in Gibbon?
[19:24] <eeeandrew> no idea...am pretty new at this
[19:24] <n215> is there any gui openvpn client for ubuntu ?
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> eeeandrew: soundjuicer?
[19:24] <|_James_Bond_|> HI PPL
[19:24] <eeeandrew> jack_sparrow:what about it?
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> eeeandrew: That is what I use on audio cd's
[19:25] <Rautamiekka_> Who the f is using my nick ?
[19:25] <wsv123457> tried installing codecs per link still doing something wrong
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Rautamiekka_: if it is registered you can kill them off
[19:25] <Rautamiekka_> Hm, it appears that I'm logged in tho I'm not
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Rautamiekka_: look at ghost...
[19:26] <eeeandrew> jack_sparrow: thanks but my files are already on here from my vista partition
[19:26] <RazzoRz> Hey folks,
[19:26] <robdig> n215: haven't tried them but looks like there is grml-vpn and openvpn
[19:26] <wsv123457> totem still not working any ideas
[19:27] <robdig> n215: those are in the repos
[19:27] <RazzoRz> I am running 7.10 with innoteck vbox,   Can someone tell me how to get my mic working in Innotek Vbox?
[19:27] <IrishDave> robdig, you still there? i tried that and it complains that it isn't an acceptable mode
[19:27] <IrishDave> does anyone know why or how to get vga=834 in the grub bootline? i'm trying to get framebuffer resolution of 1400x1050
[19:27] <n215> robdig,  thank you
[19:27] <darkarcon2015> hello
[19:27] <robdig> IrishDave: still here, but don't know how to help further...
[19:28] <darkarcon2015> i am working on setting up an ldap server
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> IrishDave: Do yo have that res working in your gui desktop session?
[19:28] <darkarcon2015> and have run into this error: ldap_bind: Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
[19:28] <RazzoRz> I am running 7.10 with innoteck vbox,   Can someone tell me how to get my mic working in Innotek Vbox?
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: repeating every 10 lines wont get you an answer any faster
[19:29] <IrishDave> Jack_Sparrow, I use 1680x1050 within x using the nvidia driver, but i'm trying to get 1400x1050 working from framebuffer so that if i press ctrl+F3 etc it gives me a decent resolution
[19:29] <darkarcon2015> for the record, ldap is started and i see it is listening on port 389 using netstat (i also dont have iptables installed)
[19:29] <RazzoRz> You jack... ( Thanks man ) wow ... no are you here to give me Advice or to help me with my issue?
[19:30] <RazzoRz> Its ok if you don't know...
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: I am here to help people with problems... and help moderate the channel
[19:30] <eeeandrew> skel/afrikanse: tried muting and individual options and changing the panning to shut off the whistling speaker. no luck. I think this ones got us beat:(
[19:30] <RazzoRz> Nice .. great.. right on even... ok So i have a Problem?.. are you goin to help me ? or can you
[19:30] <sladjan> hi
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> RazzoRz: With vbox problems.. no...  they have their own help
[19:31] <sladjan> can someone help me with ubuntu 7,10
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[19:31] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[19:31] <RazzoRz> Ok.. chance of you Pointing me in the rright Direction?
[19:31] <RazzoRz> is there a channel ?
[19:31] <kane77> sladjan, not unless you ask a question...
[19:31] <sladjan> ok
[19:32] <brandon_> hey im trying to run world of warcraft, but i have compiz running with xgl and it wont let me use DRI, is there a way to use compiz without xgl or s script to temp. disable/enable xgl
[19:32] <IrishDave> RazzoRz, have a check on google and then the forums
[19:32] <skel> eeeandrew: I'm sorry, if I had any more ideas I'd pass em on, I'm just stumped
[19:32] <mellowjoy420> well, how do i select mp3 as my output format in sound juicer?
[19:32] <RazzoRz> WOW.. done that for weeks
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> IrishDave:   I doubt you will get above 1024 that way
[19:32] <sladjan> im having problem with sound and video
[19:32] <RazzoRz> thanks anyways !!!
[19:32] <kane77> brandon_, doesn't something like that work: metacity --replace; your_command
[19:32]  * ^garfield2^ is away (I am Off Line Now...)
[19:33] <eeeandrew> skel: no worries I appreciate all the help
[19:33] <IrishDave> Jack_Sparrow, see I know it should be possible because with Sabayon and OpenSUSE when I run those I have the ability to run a 1400x1050 framebuffer so I know theoretically it's possible, i just wanted to know how to do it in ubuntu
[19:33] <brandon_> kane77: srry ima linux nub atm what?
[19:33] <krim> Which keys should I press to get a window where I can type which program I want to start? My mouse is charging it's batteries :)
[19:33] <karim> is it possible to run a X application from inside a chroot  ?
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> IrishDave: No idea...  never seen it higher than 1024...
[19:33] <jimjam> Is anyone running on an Intel GMA x3100 graphics chipset?
[19:34] <kane77> brandon_, you can run the game like this "metacity --replace; your_app"
[19:34] <IrishDave> ok, thanks Jack_Sparrow I'll keep checking google
[19:34] <thor> krim: you can just open a terminal
[19:34] <sladjan> i have music but not sound
[19:34] <Ashfire908> brandon_, #ubuntu-effects (now #compiz-fusion) is dedicated to compiz. you might be able to get better help there.
[19:35] <brandon_> kane77, would i add that to the run of a run command?
[19:35]  * Ashfire908 typs too slowly
[19:35] <krim> thor: But there should be an equivalent to "Run..." in Windows.
[19:35] <kane77> krim, alt+f2
[19:35] <krim> kane77: Thanks
[19:35] <Nobl1> i'm trying to use X11VNC... it always locks right up... anyone have any ideas?
[19:36] <kane77> brandon_, you can run the metacity --replace first and then run whatever program you want...
[19:36] <brandon_> kane:77 ok lemme try that
[19:37] <thor> Nobl1: are you trying to run the vncserver or client?
[19:37] <sladjan> help please
[19:37] <Arelis> Hey does anybody know how i could set a website as background?
[19:37] <eeeandrew> skel: I've had an idea...is it possible to get other drivers instead of the autoloaded ones and try them?
[19:38] <robdig> sladjan: what is your question
[19:38] <malakar> mac mini without monitor has anybody tried?
[19:38] <brobostigon> hi, is there a prog i can use to monitor and record from a webcam, like a security camera does.??
[19:38] <sladjan> rodbig i can play sound but i dint hear music
[19:39] <thor> brobostigon: check the program 'webcam' I have it running on 7.10
[19:39] <sladjan> and video is not reproducing
[19:39] <kane77> sladjan, do you have codecs installed?
[19:39] <sladjan> yes
[19:39] <brandon_> kane77, i added that command to the end of my WoW desktop icon but i still get unable to start up 3d acceleration because of xgl
[19:39] <kane77> brandon_, you should run that first...
[19:39] <malakar> my mac mini is refusing to boot ubuntu without the monitor attached
[19:40] <brandon_> kane77, im lost :)
[19:40] <sladjan> also i have problems with setting the appereance
[19:40] <kane77> brandon_, does the game run if you disable compiz?
[19:40] <skel> eeeandrew: yeah you can remove current drivers with rmmod
[19:40] <skel> eeeandrew: remove / unload
[19:40] <smooker> hi, how do i move to folder from the terminal ?
[19:40] <brobostigon> thor: is that prog listed in packages.ubuntu.com, i never heard of it??
[19:40] <brandon_> kane77, i forgot how to disable compiz
[19:41] <kane77> smooker, cd folder
[19:41] <skel> eeeandrew: and load the ones you want (provided they're built and included in your modules dir)
[19:41] <thor> brobostigon: just a sec..;.let me check
[19:41] <kane77> smooker, or cd /path/to/folder
[19:41] <smooker> ah i forgot :)
[19:41] <smooker> like in cmd :P
[19:41] <tuxthepenguin533> is ext2 better than ext3
[19:41] <skel> eeeandrew: brb
[19:41] <robdig> !audio | sladjan have you tried this?
[19:41] <ubotu> sladjan have you tried this?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:41] <kane77> tuxthepenguin533, why?
[19:41] <thor> brobostigon: it looks like i compiled it myself...it is webcam-server-0.50...should be able to find it on google
[19:41] <Shadow147> brandon_ what type of card
[19:41] <brobostigon> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/webcam
[19:42] <tuxthepenguin533> i find ext2 faster
[19:42] <brandon_> shadow147, ati radeon x1600
[19:42] <thor> brobostigon: must have compiled easily...there are no libs or such on my ubuntu machine
[19:42] <Shadow147> brandon_ how new is it?
[19:42] <Condoulo> What is a good PCI-E card that works good in Linux? Because I am looking into upgrading my machine.
[19:42] <Pada`> tuxthepenguin533 : ext3 is journalised, it's the main difference with ext2
[19:42] <kane77> tuxthepenguin533, the only difference between ext2 and ext3 is journal, which I like better...
[19:42] <brandon_> shadow147, about 10months old
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[19:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[19:42] <brobostigon> thannks thor.
[19:43] <Pada`> it means you won't have the equivalent of "scandisk" after a savage shutdown or reboot
[19:43] <troopperi_> Does nvidia gf 7600gs working fine with ubuntu?
[19:43] <sladjan> pls anyone can help me
[19:43] <xdcdx_> I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 via the official upgrader and now all I get when I boot is a blinking cursor, what can I do?
[19:43] <Shadow147> brandon_ ok then you should have no problems with 3D and OpenGL
[19:43] <thor> sladjan: we won't know til you tell us the problem
[19:43] <brandon_> shadow147, its xgl that messin me up
[19:44] <Shadow147> brandon_ ah then it might be for me
[19:44] <sladjan> im having problems with voice and video
[19:44] <tuxthepenguin533> dosent journaling take a performance hit
[19:44] <brandon_> how do i disable xgl?
[19:44] <thor> sladjan: the only voice and video I have had working successfully in linux is the latest skype...and I haven't really had a chance to test it yet
[19:45] <bluesky9> hi
[19:45] <sladjan> i mean i cant hear sound in video clips neither to see the video clip
[19:45] <brandon_> i need to disbale xgl/compiz any1 know how?
[19:45] <tuxthepenguin533> dosent journaling take a performance hit
[19:45] <Haesufin> how do I fix 'timestamp too far into the future:'  ?
[19:46] <thor> Haesufin: try 'touch <filename>'
[19:46] <krim> brandon_: system -> preferences -> appearance -> desktop effects -> none (something like that I think)
[19:46] <jacob> i need an somebody who knows how to install libraries
[19:46] <skel> eeeandrew: back
[19:46] <jacob> i'm having problems
[19:46] <brandon_> krim: my appearence menu freezes
[19:47] <sladjan> ok
[19:47] <sladjan> leave it
[19:47] <Duc_Fold> Hi everyone.
[19:47] <jacob> i'm trying to install the "gnome-python-desktop-2.17.1" library
[19:47] <sladjan> Desktop effects could not be enabled\ how to fix this
[19:48] <skel> sladjan: ATI card?
[19:48] <sladjan> yes
[19:48] <brandon_> anyway to turn off xgl/compiz without useing the appearence menu?
[19:48] <Haesufin> thor: i think it only happens when i sudo
[19:48] <skel> sladjan: apt-get aixgl I think
[19:48] <jacob> i'm trying to install gnome-python-desktop
[19:48] <jacob> can somebody help?
[19:48] <kane77> brandon_, metacity --replace
[19:48] <sladjan> ill give a try
[19:49] <brandon_> kane77: i still dont understand where to use that
[19:49] <skel> jacob: whats the issue?
[19:49] <kane77> brandon_, type it into terminal and press enter...
[19:49] <Smesharik> Пока
[19:49] <brandon_> kane77: kk
[19:50] <brandon_> kane77: sweet thx :)
[19:50] <kane77> brandon_, np ;)
[19:50] <brandon_> kane77: what do i use to put it back up?
[19:50] <Haesufin> I tried ntpdate but says permission denied
[19:50] <kane77> brandon_, if it is compiz then compiz --replace
[19:50] <aclark> if i have xchat-gnome installed do i need to install xchat too?
[19:50] <brandon_> ok cool
[19:50] <sladjan> Invalid operation aixgl
[19:51] <sladjan> doesnt work\
[19:51] <_6StringKng_> uh, my video ont his site dl.tv has been laggy on this pc but not laptop, would there be a reason for that, vid drivers maybe, considering this one had an nvidia card and the laptop i sati?
[19:51] <_6StringKng_> on this*
[19:51] <thor> Haesufin: what is the file?
[19:51] <kitche> sladjan: aiglx is installed by default since it's part of X unless your on dapper of course
[19:51] <kane77> aclark, xchat and xchat-gnome are not the same programs.. so the answer is no.
[19:51] <sladjan> so what should i do
[19:51] <krim> lynx vs links, what do you think?
[19:51] <brandon_> kane77, xgl is still up tho >>
[19:51] <aclark> ok i didnt know if xchat-gnome was an addon or seperate
[19:52] <skel> sladjan: hang on
[19:52] <sladjan> ok
[19:52] <thor> Haesufin ntpdate needs to be run as root
[19:52] <Haesufin> thor: no file, i just cant sudo, says timestamp too far into future: Dec 2 14:24:57 2007
[19:52] <skel> sladjan: is this gibbon? 7.10
[19:52] <sladjan> yes
[19:52] <skel> sladjan: ok, one moment, had the same error on my laptop
[19:52] <thor> Haesufin: Check the timestamp on the sudoers file...it might be wrong
[19:52] <sladjan> ok
[19:53] <kane77> Haesufin, what system date do you have?
[19:53] <thor> Haesufin I think it is /etc/sudoers
[19:53] <sladjan> i use toshiba satelite laptop
[19:53] <_6StringKng_> video lag
[19:53] <_6StringKng_> someone help?
[19:53] <Haesufin> kane777: dont know, i'm in command lie
[19:53] <Haesufin> *line
[19:53] <brandon_> how do i trun xgl offafter compiz is off?
[19:53] <thor> kane77: the error indicates the timestamp on whatever file is Dec2...today is Dec1
[19:54] <thor> Haesufin you can view the date from the command line with the command 'date'
[19:54] <arpegius> i've heard that wireless is a bit more broken in gutsy than in feisty. true?
[19:54] <Haesufin> not here in australia its dec 2
[19:54] <Haesufin> but 05:24
[19:54] <teslacoil> I've got a question actually about xwindows in general
[19:54] <aclark> arpegius i found it easier to set up in gutsy, however i still needed wired to get it working
[19:54] <thor> Haesufin really....I have got to become more international <smile>
[19:54] <robdig> Haesufin: man page indicates that sudo -k will invalidate your timestamp and prompt for password with next use...maybe that willhelp you?
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Haesufin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173505
[19:54] <arpegius> aclark: okay. thanks.
[19:54] <brandon_> any1 lknow how to turn xgl off?
[19:55] <aclark> although i do have a pesty broadcom
[19:55] <brandon_> so i can use DRI?
[19:55] <skel> sladjan: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl
[19:55] <lfs> hello
[19:55] <skel> sladjan: then restart x
[19:55] <sladjan> ok
[19:55] <darkarcon2015> when setting up ldap, i get this error: ldap_bind: Can't contact LDAP server (-1).  i have ldap started and see it is listening on port 389 thanks to netstat (i am using ubuntu 7.10 and used apt-get to install ldap), any help?
[19:55] <teslacoil> I'm trying to add language support, with the simple-looking program fbxkb
[19:55] <Haesufin> robdig: i get same thing
[19:56] <brandon_> is there a command to turn xgl off?
[19:56] <lfs> woah busy room!
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> lfs: Quiet compared to most days
[19:56] <teslacoil> and setxkbmap
[19:56] <lfs> :)
[19:56] <teslacoil> but I'm not having any luck
[19:56] <robdig> Haesufin: the link Jack_Sparrow posted shows some other things that might work
[19:56] <tomd123> lfs, you running linux from scratch?
[19:56] <Haesufin> Can i set the time manually?
[19:56] <teslacoil> used synaptic to install the language things that looked relevant
[19:57] <TigranG> Anyone know a lot about wireless connections/driver that can help me via private chat
[19:57] <sladjan> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[19:57] <sladjan> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[19:57] <sladjan> sladjan@sladjan-laptop:~$
[19:57] <brandon_> is there a way to turn xgl off so i can run WoW
[19:57] <sladjan> what now
[19:57] <lfs> have built LFS , but right now i'm running ubuntu
[19:57] <tomd123> lfs, same story here
[19:57] <skel> sladjan: restart
[19:57] <chazco> hi... i have an IR remote control... it generates codes in showkeys when i use it... Some buttons work already (e.g. volume), and some i have working through keytouch. However, i'm trying to figure out how to make the "OK" button act as an "enter/return" key (it shows in showkey, but cant be used in keytouch)... Any ideas?
[19:57] <NKD-> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 71.193.173.171    then i put echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[19:57] <sladjan> ok thx
[19:58] <skel> sladjan: np
[19:58] <whta> hey. i have to crank my speaker volume way up just to have sound at a listenable level. wasn't like this before i reinstalled.. all volumes are at max. how can i fix this?
[19:58] <NKD-> Is that correct for getting a basic SNAT going?
[19:58] <NKD-> it doesnt seem to be working
[19:58] <brandon_> how do i disable xgl?
[19:58] <mattgyver83> whta, have you checked your alsamixer settings?
[19:58] <lfs> @whta  why dont you use a preamp
[19:58] <brandon_> there has to be a way of disbaleing xgl
[19:59] <tuxthepenguin533> is 256mb ram enough my for ubuntu
[19:59] <lfs> whta, maybe PCM is low
[19:59] <tuxthepenguin533> for ubuntu
[19:59] <tomd123> brandon_: "touch $HOME/.config/xserver-xgl/disable"
[19:59] <Hoxzer> How can I setup default interface. I have two intefaces in my computer setup and a bridge between them. How can I tell programs to use br0 instead of eth0 or etho 1
[19:59] <square[]> how do you change the alsa buffer size? i keep on getting skips in my music.
[19:59] <lfs> tuxthepenguin533,  why not!
[19:59] <tomd123> brandon_: then logout and login
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tuxthepenguin533: yes, but watch out for sharing too much of it with your video card..if it is onboard
[19:59] <eeeandrew> skel: after looking around a bit I found this page....do you think this guide will help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:59] <whta> lfs: I just turned up PCM and that helped a little bit, but it's still softer than it was before. what else might i need to adjust?
[19:59] <hansb> blender
[20:00] <tuxthepenguin533> then why wont the live cd work
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[20:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:00] <kane77> tuxthepenguin533, it's on the edge... but I've run ubuntu on 128 (and 16Mb of it was shared with graphics) and it worked ok... (I used xfce)
[20:00] <thor> Hoxzer: I'm curious..where do you plug in the bridge on your computer?
[20:00] <brandon_> tomd123, it says no such file or directory was found
[20:00] <kane77> tuxthepenguin533, you can install it only with alternate cd...
[20:00] <Smesharik> Суки вы все. Пока
[20:00] <beerfa1> what owns ~/.config ?
[20:00] <tomd123> you
[20:00] <kane77> tuxthepenguin533, livecd needs 384MB RAM
[20:00] <astro76> !ru | Smesharik
[20:00] <ubotu> Smesharik: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[20:01] <NKD-> Have this system acting as a gateway for two others. Tried a simple SNAT like this: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 71.193.173.171    then i put echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward   . It doesn't appear to be working. What am I doing wrong?
[20:01] <tomd123> beerfa1: everything in your home directory is yours
[20:01] <skel> eeeandrew: you could try but thats over a year old, the kernel you've got with 7.10 is past the revision that it wants you to patch it to
[20:01] <beerfa1> what app requires ~/.config  then?
[20:01] <lfs> whta, you ca try using an equalizer with a amplifier .. any good music player would provide that
[20:01] <Hoxzer> thor: I have two interfaces in my mobo by default so I put my laptop's connection through my PC. That way if there is wireless connection available I can have wired connection for both laptop and desktop
[20:01] <TigranG> Anyone know a lot about wireless connections/driver that can help me via private chat
[20:02] <eeeandrew> skel: oh well thanks for saving me doing all that
[20:02] <tomd123> brandon_: try making directorys and then type the command in
[20:02] <whta> lfs: i don't think i should have to, though, since on my previous installation i had volume working just fine
[20:02] <mattgyver83> Has anyone here setup a palm to sync via usb with jpilot?
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi
[20:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:02] <riaal> anyone know if i can change the default group for a users created files?
[20:02] <lfs> TigranG, what adapter do u have?
[20:02] <tomd123> 456123-
[20:02] <kane77> TigranG, depends on the chipset...
[20:02] <tomd123> +.0
[20:02] <tomd123> sry
[20:02] <whta> in alsamixer both master and pcm are at 100
[20:02] <TigranG> lfs: Atheros AR5212
[20:03] <brandon_> any1 have an idea to disbale xgl?
[20:03] <skel> eeeandrew: I had some problems with my onboard soundcard and messed around with it a bit at first, but I happened to have an old pci soundblaster card so I just plugged that in and disabled onboard and it works like a champ
[20:03] <thor> Hoxzer: then on the laptop you will still use the ethx of the laptop...the desktop computer doesn't do any work ... it is just an ethernet bridge right?
[20:03] <lfs> whta, hmm... maybe you should check if you are using the right driver.. what kind of card do you have?
[20:03] <Haesufin>  Got it fixed with sudo-v, cheers for your help
[20:03] <imbecile> hey guys. just curious what kind of video compression istanbul uses. when i go to save it has no file extension and i want to know what to give it to upload to youtube
[20:03] <TigranG> kane77: Atheros AR5212
[20:03] <sladjan> i still recive the same message Desktop effects could not be enabled
[20:03] <skel> brandon_: just disable desktop effects?
[20:03] <whta> lfs: audigy 2 zs. it detects the card properly and everything so i'm assuming it's using the correct driver. i never had to install anything separate before.
[20:03] <kitche> imbecile: well youtube I think is .avi but doesn't matter since it uses a flash overlay anyways
[20:03] <brandon_> skel, tryied it
[20:03] <lfs> TigranG, is it detected ? .. i think the Atheros chipset is supported well in ubuntu
[20:04] <TigranG> lfs: It is detetced. But I get slow bitrates.
[20:04] <imbecile> kitche:  so i make the file a .avi?
[20:04] <tomd123> brandon_: the way i told you is the way you disable xgl!!
[20:04] <skel> sladjan: hmm that fixed the issue on my HP laptop, sorry I'm not sure what to try from there
[20:04] <TigranG> lfs: Like down to 2mbps.
[20:04] <brandon_> tomd123, i dont have an xserver-xgl folder tho
[20:04] <TigranG> lfs: The card is capable of 54mbps and I get that amount unders WindowsXP.
[20:04] <lfs> whta, run sudo lsmod , u'll see a list of loaded modules which can give you an indication of the driver used .. also check dmesg
[20:04] <NKD-> Have this system acting as a gateway for two others. Tried a simple SNAT like this: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 71.193.173.171    then i put echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward   . It doesn't appear to be working. What am I doing wrong?
[20:04] <tomd123> brandon, create one
[20:04] <brandon_> ok
[20:05] <sladjan> i can see now the video clip
[20:05] <kitche> imbecile: maybe look at YouTube's upload policy I don't bother with it much
[20:05] <iLLeqaL> Hiii
[20:05] <sladjan> but the appereance dont work
[20:05] <lfs> TigranG, .. hmm
[20:05] <sladjan> Xgl server setup changed
[20:05] <sladjan> The Xgl server will now be started automatically next time you login.  It is no longer necessary to use any special X session to start Xgl, and such sessions will likely fail to work properly.  Please select a regular session from your session manager next time you log in.  To disable Xgl autostart for this user, create a file named ~/.config/xserver-xgl/disable
[20:05] <beerfa1> what framework/platform/whatever owns ~/.config? It's filled with prefs for apps like banshee, compiz, deluge, glade, gtk2. Is this a gnome dir?
[20:05] <tuxthepenguin533> !swap
[20:05] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[20:05] <hiredgoon> is there a ubuntu-studio channel?
[20:06] <kitche> hiredgoon: yes
[20:06] <imbecile> kitche:  well what i need to know is what format of video does istanbul save as?
[20:06] <ipx> How do I formulate an input in /etc/sudoers that makes my user have sudoers right to firestarter?
[20:06] <thor> beerfa1: .config contains a lot of config options for various desktop items...I believe it is part of the FreeDesktop stuff
[20:06] <kitche> imbecile: probably .avi find out by saving a file
[20:06] <RadiantFire> lol, if you use your swap it always seems like the system gets slower
[20:06] <brandon_> tomd123, what is the disbale part a folder or text file?
[20:06] <imbecile> kitche:  i tried saving & it had no file extension
[20:06] <kitche> imbecile: then it's probably .avi just give it an extenstion then
[20:07] <tomd123> brandon, its just an empty file called disable
[20:07] <beerfa1> thor: I wonder why it isn't stored in .gnome2
[20:07] <TigranG> lfs: Do you think I should try ndiswrapper?
[20:07] <brandon_> text?
[20:07] <imbecile> kitche:  thanks
[20:07] <thor> beerfa1: my .config contains folders for gnome's menus, xfce's menus, the text editor config. It is not stored in .gnome2 because not everyone runs gnome...
[20:07] <slimjimflim> is it possible to set up a 'virtual router' in order to give applications the illusion of having a static ip?
[20:07] <brandon_> kk
[20:07] <RadiantFire> ipx: I'm not quite sure about the syntax, but be sure to use the visudo program, which will check for syntax errors that could leave sudo unusable
[20:07] <lfs> TigranG, AFAIK, ndiswrappers perform lesser than native drivers , but you can give it a try!
[20:07] <kane77> NKD-, and what are you trying to achieve?
[20:08] <ipx> RadiantFire: thanks!
[20:08] <astro76> slimjimflim, what are you trying to do?
[20:08] <kane77> NKD-, eh.. I misread.. sorry
[20:08] <NKD-> heheh
[20:08] <NKD-> its ok
[20:08] <beerfa1> thor: oh, I'm not really familiar with freedesktop. I guess that's a platform independent thing.
[20:08] <lfs> TigranG,  Looks more like a settings problem though ,... if you are getting better speeds using the same access point under windoze XP
[20:09] <TigranG> lfs: Like what?
[20:09] <NKD-> i swear i used that same syntax years ago last time i had a linux box working as a gateway
[20:09] <riaal> can someone type my name please? (configuring colors)
[20:09] <NKD-> though maybe i used masquerade instead of snat
[20:09] <dav1> hello there
[20:09] <thor> beerfa1: right....it is a relatively recent project
[20:09] <dav1> i dont understand why ubuntu is so great?
[20:09] <lfs> TigranG, Cant say , can you post the output of iwconfig?
[20:10] <beerfa1> dav1: then you haven't been using it ;-)
[20:10] <thor> beerfa1: don't feed the trolls <smile>
[20:10] <astro76> riaal, that would be best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic ... but here you go :p
[20:10] <dav1> beerfa1 i have been using it and i think its great, but i dont just understand why :)
[20:10] <lfs> beerfa1,  hehehe
[20:10] <riaal> astro76: cheers
[20:10] <TigranG> lfs: http://rafb.net/p/K2ZWnt69.html
[20:10] <slimjimflim> astro76, well, i'm setting up postfix and for some of the settings i need to put in the ip address, but i lost the power cord to my router.  i was thinking, i could run something to get the address and translate it into something static
[20:10] <osiris___> Hi all does anyone know how to fix the big font size in the GDM text box with a fresh install of gutsy? also it's installed on a laptop, when the sounds muted it still plays sound?
[20:10] <kane77> NKD-, isn't it supposed to be --to-source?
[20:11] <astro76> slimjimflim, what is assigning your IP now?
[20:11] <slimjimflim> astro76, it's the static ip i get from my isp whenever my modem gets rebooted
[20:12] <slimjimflim> which isn't very often
[20:12] <slimjimflim> but it still happens
[20:12] <lfs> TigranG,  do you get a good signal from the accespoint?
[20:13] <max`> is there any chance to view XPS files with ubuntu?
[20:13] <thor> slimjimflim: the IP from your isp is the one you need...you will need to use the same one once you get your router fixed unless you intend to just use postfix internally
[20:13] <slimjimflim> i guess i could write a script to update those files whenever a new ethernet connection is made
[20:13] <TigranG> lfs: 30-40%, but its at the same place when I'm running Windows. I get 54 so I dont think its because of that
[20:13] <NKD-> hm maybe kane.. i dunno.
[20:13] <NKD-> lemme try
[20:13] <thor> slimjimflim if you want to use postfix externally look at www.no-ip.com to solve that problem
[20:13] <dav1> hey guys, everytime i start ubuntu, i have to type  "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper " in order to start my WLAN, can anyone tell me how i do that automatically without typing at every start?
[20:13] <slimjimflim> thanks thor
[20:13] <benhd2008> can anyone tell me why when i try to play something full screen its all distorted
[20:14] <TigranG> behnd2008: running beryl or compiz?
[20:14] <slimjimflim> thor is that free?
[20:14] <erUSUL> dav1: put ndiswraper on /etc/modules
[20:14] <benhd2008> no
[20:14] <lfs> TigranG,  hmm .. just wondering , if you are primarily using the access point fron browsing , then it should not really affect you unless your internet pipe is bigger than 2mbps
[20:14] <TigranG> dunno
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> TigranG: What network card..  you might have one with marginal support/drivers  It may have great windows drivers but not give out enough info for open source to properly drive it
[20:14] <beerfa1> benhd2008: widescreen display?
[20:14] <benhd2008> no
[20:14] <osiris___> Hi all does anyone know how to fix the big font size in the GDM text box with a fresh install of gutsy? also it's installed on a laptop, when the sounds muted it still plays sound?
[20:15] <Ax-Ax> how can i check how much diskspace i have left?
[20:15] <brobostigon> dav1: add ndiswrapper into /etc/modules
[20:15] <sladjan> anyone can help me to fix the problem with visual effects'
[20:15] <erUSUL> Ax-Ax: df -h
[20:15] <dav1> okay i try
[20:15] <benhd2008> there is like lines all down the screen
[20:15] <dav1> thx
[20:15] <NKD-> didnt seem to help
[20:15] <astro76> Ax-Ax, df -h, or apps > accessories > disk usage analyzer
[20:15] <erUSUL> Ax-Ax: or System>Admin>System Monitor
[20:15] <brobostigon> dav1: you will then need to reboot.
[20:15] <slimjimflim> thor actually, i already have a domain with custom dns from dyndns
[20:15] <thor> Ax-Ax: do you have baobab installed?
[20:15] <beerfa1> benhd2008: windows game?
[20:15] <TigranG> Jack_Sparrow: its an Atheros  AR5212
[20:16] <erUSUL> !wifi | TigranG
[20:16] <ubotu> TigranG: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> TigranG: Did you look it up in the supported hardware section
[20:16] <Ax-Ax> thor: no
[20:16] <tuxthepenguin533> !logfile
[20:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logfile - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:16] <tuxthepenguin533> !jorunal
[20:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jorunal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:16] <TigranG> Jack_Sparrow: I know this card has lots of problems.
[20:16] <thor> slimjimflim: I looked high and low for a script that would just email me when the ip address changes, no luck. I finally went with a dynamic dns and used that
[20:16] <sladjan> anyone can help me to fix the problem with visual effects' pls
[20:16] <iLLeqaL> >>>>>TURKEY  TURKEY  TURKEY  TURKEY  TURKEY````````````
[20:16] <erUSUL> !effects
[20:16] <ubotu> Desktop Effects are supported on graphics cards that use the default Intel and ATI drivers and the restricted !NVIDIA drivers, except for the following, which are blacklisted due to stability/compatibility issues: Intel 965, ATI Rs480 and Rv350, ATI Mobility x300, x600 and x700 - Join #compiz-fusion for anything not officially supported by Ubuntu
[20:16] <recon> QV
[20:16] <DM|> anyone know a good cpu governor for the GTK panel
[20:17] <thor> Ax-Ax: baobab will show you a dir tree and how much space is used. 'df' from teh command line will just show you free space totals for the different mounts
[20:17] <slimjimflim> thor, so can i just put in my domain name where it asks for ips? or mail.mydomain?
[20:17] <tamgo> kde 4.0 rc1 rocks.
[20:17] <lfs> TigranG, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972 this may help
[20:17] <TigranG> erUSUL: I was already there :)
[20:17] <iLLeqaL> >>>>>TURKEY  TURKEY  TURKEY  TURKEY  TURKEY````````````
[20:17] <jacob> how do i install mediaprofiles dev?
[20:17] <Ax-Ax> thor: i just want mount space :)
[20:17] <minerale> i have ubun tu on a` laptop ald an  external display, how can i set the extewrnal `display as default?
[20:17] <erUSUL> !caps | iLLeqaL
[20:17] <ubotu> iLLeqaL: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:17] <gamag> I have just installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my new acer 4520 laptop. no sound is coming on music or video. I installed the drivers that totem player recommended. but still not working
[20:18] <thor> slimjimflim I believe so...but I have never used postfix or even run my own mailserver (pending project)
[20:18] <gamag> video pictures are coming, but no sound from it
[20:18] <gamag> help
[20:18] <romme> how do i unmount a partition if it continues to insist that it's busy?
[20:18] <thor> Ax-Ax: just run 'df' in a terminal
[20:18] <slimjimflim> ok, thanks
[20:18] <sethk> gamag, sound is overrated anyway
[20:18] <tomd123> gamag: they're called videos
[20:18] <Ax-Ax> thor: already done that :)
[20:18] <Ax-Ax> 46 GB free
[20:18] <sladjan> anyone can help me to fix the problem with visual effects' PLS
[20:18] <gamag> tomd123: what do you mean?
[20:18] <lfs> gamag,  is your soundcard detected?
[20:18] <kane77> sethk, lol
[20:18] <gamag> lfs: how do I find that out?
[20:19] <tomd123> gamag: video pictures are just videos
[20:19] <thor> Ax-Ax: all in /  ????
[20:19] <jacob> how do i install mediaprofiles dev anyone?
[20:19] <gamag> tomd123: the video has sound also in that.
[20:19] <gamag> tomd123: it is a movie
[20:19] <Ax-Ax> thor: yes?
[20:19] <tomd123> ...
[20:19] <thor> Ax-Ax: next time give yourself 20G for / and the rest for /home
[20:19] <lfs> gamag, many ways , you can use gnome-control-center i guess , will show you the card details and the driver used
[20:20] <benhd2008> i think it has to do with my resolution because i tried changing it and it messed my screen adn i had to restart
[20:20] <TigranG> lfs: I'm already using madwifi with ath_hal module
[20:20] <thor> Ax-Ax:  it will help in case of a crash
[20:20] <sethk> Ax-Ax, you are much better off with just one partition.  The problem disappears entirely
[20:21] <Unknown> Hey can somebody chat with me on how to install ubuntu again, i will discuss the problem i have once we get in chat
[20:21] <gamag> lfs: all sections are showing autodetect
[20:21] <benhd2008> anyone know why i cant run things in full screen it distorts my screen
[20:21] <Ashfire908> if someone connected to a ssh server and ran screen irssi, and the person had a bad connection and the connection was reset, would screen shutdown.
[20:21] <Ashfire908> *?
[20:21] <thor> sethx:  I lost my suse install last week to a bad update...I reinstalled / without formatting and only lost two or three minor config files....
[20:21] <Unknown> Hey can somebody chat with me on how to install ubuntu again, i will discuss the problem i have once we get in chat
[20:21] <gamag> like Sound Playback: autodetect lfs
[20:21] <gamag> lfs: sound capture: ALsA
[20:21] <sethk>  Ashfire908 no
[20:21] <gamag> lfs: default mixer tracks: HDA Nvidia
[20:22] <erUSUL> !repeat | Unknown
[20:22] <ubotu> Unknown: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:22] <Ashfire908> sethk, if the ssh server gets a connection reset by peer error, does it logout the user?
[20:22] <gamag> lfs: and when I press the "Test" buttons nothing happens.
[20:22] <gamag> no sound
[20:23] <Ax-Ax> thor: it's my fathers setup, next time i'll make a /home partition :(
[20:23] <Unknown> Right when i push enter on the cd to go into ubuntu live cd to install it gives me internal memory error or something like that and doesnt boot into live cd just makes my pc speaker go crazy
[20:23] <lfs> gamag, what sound card do you have again?
[20:23] <sethk> Ashfire908, well, the connection is gone, so it's somewhat academic.  It depends on whether screen was started with nohup
[20:24] <sladjan> why r my windows moving now to slow
[20:24] <kane77> thor, isn't 20GB for / a bit too much?
[20:24] <gamag> lfs: realtek
[20:24] <tomd123> sladjan: either you don't have drivers for your card or your system can't handle high settings
[20:25] <sladjan> so how shold i fix the problem
[20:25] <thor> kane77: I have 15G now, but am using better than half. Course...I install more than the average bear
[20:25] <tomd123> sladjan, go to system, administration, restricted drivers
[20:25] <tomd123> check the checkbox in the enable column and press ok
[20:26] <Unknown> Right when i push enter on the cd to go into ubuntu live cd to install it gives me internal memory error or something like that and doesnt boot into live cd just makes my pc speaker go crazy any one got any ideas
[20:26] <sladjan> i have there one in use and one not in use
[20:26] <erUSUL> Unknown: have you ested your memeory with memetest (aviable on the livecd iirc)
[20:26] <brandon__> how do i upgrade to newer versions of ubuntu
[20:27] <astro76> !upgrade | brandon__
[20:27] <ubotu> brandon__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:27] <Anio> hello
[20:27] <Unknown> well where is the mem test it doesnt even boot into the live cd
[20:27] <Unknown> my pc has good specs
[20:27] <vector> hai 2 u k4k
[20:27] <Vadi> How can I reset my X settings completely?
[20:27] <Anio> new to linux...if I format a computer and install Ubuntu, but also want to use XP as a dual installation...will that work? I heard you should always install Windows first (because their boot manager sucks), but this was a few years ago
[20:28] <Anio> I can't install Windows first, it'll be in a few months
[20:28] <Vadi> Anio: that's still the case.
[20:28] <lfs> gamag, have you tried running alsamixer?
[20:28] <Unknown> oh and if this helps i had linux installed before, and i got a new case so i put my pc in that new case and kept one of the cd drives i had in my old case out and i installed a new gfx card
[20:28] <Vadi> Anio: well, you could try and get around then if it's such a long wait..
[20:28] <aladinsano> i just installed Firestarter and then my Torrentclient
[20:28] <aladinsano> ops
[20:28] <erUSUL> Unknown: it is in the first menu you see when you can choose to boot ; boot into safe graphics; test memory; etc
[20:28] <sethk> Unknown, if windows is already there, the install will automatically set up dual boot for you, so it's a bit easier.
[20:28] <tomd123> anio, basically windows will overwrite the MBR without your consent so basically you would have to install grub again to see the linux partition
[20:28] <lfs> gamag,  and checking if anything is muted?
[20:28] <gamag> lfs: it runs, i increase decrease sound but nothing happens
[20:28] <thor> Vadi: I think it is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[20:28] <gamag> lfs: nothing is muted
[20:29] <sethk> Unknown, sorry, wrong nick
[20:29] <Anio> tom: how hard would it be to install grub again?
[20:29] <Vadi> thor: that one asks me questions
[20:29] <sethk> Anio, not hard
[20:29] <Vadi> thor: do you know for the one that doesn't, and picks itself?
[20:29] <Anio> allright...I'll give that a try
[20:29] <sethk> Anio, even easier, back up the MBR before the windows install, then restore it
[20:29] <thor> Vadi: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh'
[20:29] <tomd123> anio, i agree with sethk
[20:30] <tomd123> but then you would have to add the windows partition manually into the grub config file
[20:30] <lfs> gamag, do an lsmod and see what modules are loaded , may give you a clue
[20:30] <Anio> one more question...this is a rather old PC, a P3 1GHz with 256mb of RAM. Is this enough to run the latest Ubuntu comfortably, or should I try to get a previous release?
[20:30] <Vadi> thor: thanks man
[20:30] <tomd123> anio, its fine
[20:30] <geonerd> speaking of dual-booting, how much space should one allocate for the ubuntu partition
[20:30] <nnoeonn> Hiya guys ^
[20:31] <Anio> allright then, thanks
[20:31] <tomd123> anio, just don't enable xgl or visual effects :P
[20:31] <nnoeonn> I need help :S it seems like my grapich is a bit slow
[20:31] <beerfa1> geonerd: depends totally on how much you need. ~4GB at a minimum I'd say
[20:31] <lfs> Anio,  it can confortably run ubuntu , try using a smaller window manager like icewm or blackbox rather than gnome
[20:31] <RichW> I have ubuntu 7.10 amd64 with nvidia 8600. when I start up my pc, the spash screen does not show up and my screen turns off until its finished booting up.
[20:31] <gamag> gamag: snd_mixer_oss, snd_hda_intel, snd_hda_codec, snd_pcm_oss, snd_pcm, snd_seq_dummy, .. snd_seq
[20:31] <aladinsano> i just installed Firestarter and then my Torrentclient stoped getting a connection, as far as i can see it must only be to choose "Allow Service" under "Policy" in firestarter and to add the torrent clients port, but that does NOT do the trick, anybody know why?
[20:31] <aladinsano> Im connected directy to the net via my Dsl modem.
[20:31] <RichW> This is annoying, any ideas?
[20:31] <tomd123> geonerd, you can easily have 10 gigs for an ubuntu partition if your just a casual user, if a programmer/ has lots of "stuff" then anything bigger than 15 gigs would do
[20:32] <Anio> thanks for all the info guys
[20:32] <gamag> lfs: snd_mixer_oss, snd_hda_intel, snd_hda_codec, snd_pcm_oss, snd_pcm, snd_seq_dummy, .. snd_seq
[20:32] <warlock_handler> hi guys
[20:32] <nnoeonn> RichW: Got the same problem, press alt+f1 and you'll see what it's doing, not pretty to look at, but it works ^^
[20:33] <geonerd> thanks guys...i'll probably go with the 15 :)
[20:33] <RichW> nnoeonn: thanks but if you find real soloution, i would be intested
[20:33] <thinh> how do i format an external hd to work with all systems? i can format but i cant add or delete file on it
[20:33] <lfs> good night fellas .. its 2:00 AM already!
[20:33] <lfs> ~yawn
[20:33] <nnoeonn> RichW: I'll look around a bit ;)
[20:33] <geonerd> also, are there any graphics programs comparable to illustrator that i will be able to use in ubuntu? sorry, i'm a noob :P
[20:33] <brobostigon> here its only 8:33pm
[20:33] <beerfa1> geonerd: check out inkscape
[20:34] <RichW> anyone else here got amd64 ubuntu and a nvidia 8 series card running nvidia binary drivers?
[20:34] <tomd123> geonerd: gimp, blender, what kind of graphics are we talking about
[20:34] <tomd123> geonerd: 3d or 2d
[20:34] <thor> thinh: you need to mount it with the right options to get it writeable
[20:34] <tomd123> or 1d :P
[20:34] <beerfa1> tomd123: illustrator is a vector art program
[20:34] <geonerd> just 2d vector graphics...i use it primarily for mapping and schematics
[20:35] <tomd123> geonerd:inkscape will do
[20:35] <RichW> inkscape is awsome
[20:35] <tomd123> beerfa1: sry i didn't see his last post that he used illustrator
[20:35] <thinh> what format should i use ext3 or ext2 and the right permission you are talking about is read write in fstab or mtab?
[20:35] <geonerd> (she)
[20:35] <nnoeonn> RichW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410102, Seems like that's our solution ;)
[20:36] <RichW> you have to be skillful to get very good at inkscape but people have made amazing things with it
[20:36] <kane77> geonerd, inkscape
[20:36] <tomd123> thinh: ext3
[20:36] <RichW> nnoeonn: Thanks il look
[20:36] <nnoeonn> RichW: :)
[20:36] <thor> thinh: are you trying to read and write it only in linux or in windows also?
[20:36] <RichW> nnoeonn: just a note.. any solutions that say to add vga=xxx to grub do not work :)
[20:36] <beerfa1> geonerd: also read http://www.bittbox.com/feed/ for illustrator => inkscape tips
[20:36] <tomd123> RichW: I agree, you have to get used to inkscape but it shouldn't take really long
[20:36] <RichW> ive tried em
[20:36] <nnoeonn> So, any1 interested in helping me? :3 Can't get my Ati drivers to work properly, lags like hell :(
[20:36] <thinh> linux
[20:37] <thor> thinh: then I would use ext3
[20:37] <Vadi> How can I check to make sure that X is using the xorg.conf file and not some other?
[20:37] <nnoeonn> RichW: You sure? xD Because that's what the link says xD
[20:37] <thor> thinh: I am not sure where the mount options are derived for a removeable drive
[20:37] <thinh> what the right options and where should i put it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab?
[20:37] <geonerd> beerfa1 - will do...thanks everyone for your opinions on this...can't wait to get started with linux!
[20:38] <Parsi> the latest version of linux kernel is 2.4.35.4, does ubuntu updates to the latest automatically?
[20:38] <thor> thinh: if it was a fixed drive you would put them in fstab...but for a removeable I don;t know....but I know it isn't in fstab
[20:38] <javaJake> !antivirus
[20:38] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[20:38] <beerfa1> Parsi: updates are generally only for security or stability fixes, but not newer versions
[20:38] <thinh> i c
[20:39] <javaJake> !linuxvirus
[20:39] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[20:39] <AgtFr> Hello, anyone knows which Debian package includes utility "alsaconf" ? Running Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS on x86
[20:39] <thinh> there is a mtab that looks very similiar to fstab
[20:39] <Parsi> how can i update the kernel? is it neccesary?
[20:39] <thinh> where is the entry for the removable external drivers located at? /etc/mtab?
[20:39] <RichW> nnoeonn: I could try but im doubtful of any decent results.
[20:39] <thor> thinh: the options are stored somewhere for all the possible plugin devices...and retrieved by hald and used to mount when the device is plugged in
[20:40] <thor> thinh: I am not sure
[20:40] <Vadi> How can I check to make sure that X is using the xorg.conf file and not some other?
[20:40] <nnoeonn> RichW: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3839225 ; walkere, Read his post, i don't know if it works, but you could always try ;)
[20:40] <beerfa1> Vadi: try asking another question
[20:41] <Vadi> I reset my X configuration, but I suspect that X isn't using my new xorg.conf file.
[20:41] <skel> Vadi: try fuser xorg.conf
[20:41] <skel> Vadi: though I doubt it keeps the file locked, probably just reads on startup
[20:41] <nnoeonn> And some1 please help me, my Ati drivers doesn't seem to work properly, got a x300 card, and i've tried most of the basic stuff, but it's still slow
[20:41] <AgtFr> skel: I fear this won't work, xorg.conf is only read at startup
[20:42] <Vadi> skel: i did that, gave me a blank prompt. What now?
[20:42] <thor> thinh: been checking google...several have asked the question...but I find no answer
[20:42] <AgtFr> Vadi: introduce a syntax error in xorg.conf then attempt to restart X ;)
[20:43] <Vadi> argfr: but it doesn't complain anymore now though :(
[20:43] <thinh> i ran into this problem before, i got it to work on my other external drive dont remember what i did
[20:43] <thinh> my other drive
[20:43] <Vadi> argft: it silently gets it to work. But, I'll give it a try anyho
[20:43] <Vadi> w
[20:43] <Jaszbo> ! netbc564
[20:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netbc564 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:43] <thinh> i got external for my laptop, trying to set it up
[20:44] <beerfa1> Vadi: gutsy? are you running xorg with "BulletproofX'/
[20:44] <AgtFr> I have found something odd: lspci returns "VGA compatible unclassified device: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04)". It used to be recognized as as sound card. Note: running Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[20:44] <g-e> hey, im trying to play .3gp files on ubuntu. anyone ever did this?
[20:44] <Vadi> beerfa1: Yeah, 7.10
[20:44] <g-e> (its the video-file from a nokia phone).
[20:44] <beerfa1> that's why
[20:45] <Orakio> I'm trying to get the TNT2 to work with ubuntu, it works with X11 in that it works with the nvidia driver selected. I installed legacy. I have enabled it with the n-g-c e command but when trying to run something like critical mass it reports cannot find glx visual, anyone know why? anything special that needs to be done for glx to work?
[20:45] <Scunizi> g-e, check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/stream-3gp-files-for-mobile-devices-308452/ it might help
[20:46] <beerfa1> Orakio: TNT2 is super old and glx won't be supported
[20:47] <beerfa1> at least not completely. directx 9.0c doesn't support TNT2 for example
[20:47] <kane77> !smb
[20:47] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[20:47] <naturesss> now unistall kubuntu  and  default Ubuntu ...?
[20:47] <elliotjhug> hi - anyone in here managed to get SimCity 3000 demo from Loki running under ubuntu? Throwing loads of errors - and the forum posts are all out of date
[20:48] <Orakio> tnt2 maybe old but I fail to see how it lacks the hardware to play something like critical mass or scorched3d
[20:48] <Jaszbo> Hi room. I have an HP dv6646us laptop, and I can't get the wireless up and running on Ubuntu Studio to save my life. I have been on the forums, I have been on the wiki and I have download umpteen different things, including Driverloader and ndiswrapper. Can anyone help?
[20:48] <beerfa1> Orakio: does it run those on windows? TNT2 doesn't support pixel shading used by modern games
[20:48] <Orakio> If I switch to debian will it have better support for things like tnt2?
[20:49] <beerfa1> Orakio: no. Ubuntu is debian+
[20:49] <Orakio> those two games aren#'t exactly modern
[20:49] <crdlb> Orakio: most likely, you just need to disable composite
[20:49] <juano__> Jaszbo: at instalation it prompted for a driver in the restricted drivers ?
[20:49] <beerfa1> oops, probably going to offend people with that last comment ;-)
[20:49] <FunkyBoy> Hi. Can any body help me.... Why i can't type my password in the konsole?
[20:49] <Orakio> how do I do that?
[20:49] <Jaszbo> no, not that I recall
[20:49] <elliotjhug> beerfa1: nah - you're in #ubuntu - not #debian
[20:50] <beerfa1> try "metacity --replace" if you're running gnome
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> FunkyBoy: you probably are typing it.... it doesn;t put *';s or anything as you enter it.. just enter the password and hit enter, see what happens
[20:50] <Jaszbo> Ubuntu Studio "Gutsy" doesn't recognize my card
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> FunkyBoy: you aren't the first one to think they weren't typing it when nothing appeared next to password
[20:50] <crdlb> Orakio: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46495/
[20:50] <juano__> Jaszbo: try going to System Administration then restricted drivers manager
[20:51] <beerfa1> crdlb: unlikely he has composite running with no glx
[20:51] <Orakio> ah ha
[20:51] <juano__> Jaszbo: check to see if your card is listed there
[20:51] <Jaszbo> It doesn't show anything for my wireless card there.
[20:51] <crdlb> beerfa1: on nvidia-glx-legacy, enabling composite disables GLX
[20:51] <juano__> Jaszbo: ahh ok
[20:51] <g-e> Scunizi: thet link points to installing vlc.
[20:51] <crdlb> beerfa1: and on ubuntu, composite is enabled unless you explicitely disable it
[20:51] <g-e> maybe i will try it.
[20:51] <Jaszbo> It doesn't show anything for my woreless card there
[20:51] <richo> i wanna mount some drives via fstab. but i dont recognize " UUID=955c661c-a9da-4005-b0c6-ad48b0110243 / "  So how should i write  if i wanna have hdd mounted to /home/john/blabla
[20:51] <beerfa1> crdlb: if defer to you then
[20:51] <juano__> Jaszbo: try typing lscpi
[20:52] <TD-Linux> richo, see the two halves?
[20:52] <RichW> Can I use 32bit windows drivers with 64bit gutsy ndiswrapper?
[20:52] <TD-Linux> the first half identifies the drive
[20:52] <kane77> how do I set up samba?
[20:52] <TD-Linux> the / is where it is mounted
[20:52] <TD-Linux> so that drive is mounted to /
[20:52] <kitche> RichW: nope
[20:52] <juano__> kane77: sharing ubuntu with windows ?
[20:52] <Jaszbo> OK juano, now what?
[20:52] <kane77> juano__,
[20:52] <TD-Linux> so, you would somehow identifiy the drive, then do /home/john/blabla where the / was
[20:52] <ozzloy> is there a way to switch keyboard layout across the entire desktop instead of per-app?
[20:52] <kane77> juano__, yes
[20:52] <juano__> Jaszbo: what output does it show ?
[20:52] <TD-Linux> using UUID or other
[20:52] <RichW> kitche: Thanks! Il give it some 64bit windows drivers then
[20:53] <richo> TD-Linux:  so i can still write oldstyle?
[20:53] <RichW> kitche: you speak from experience?
[20:53] <juano__> kane77: System ----> Administration ----> shared folders , there it will prompt for samba installation, installed samba already ?
[20:53] <apocalypt1> how do i end a process in ubuntu?
[20:53] <juano__> Jaszbo: plz use pastebin
[20:53] <kitche> RichW: it will complain about the drivers not being x86_64
[20:53] <maybeway36> i use Alt+F2 then xkill
[20:53] <vanberge> anyone using 8.04 alpha?
[20:53] <Jaszbo> juano_:03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[20:54] <maybeway36> how buggy is it :P
[20:54] <kane77> juano__, yes.. I can see my workgroup, my computer, but not the folders I marked for sharing...
[20:54] <elliotjhug> apocalypt1: System -> Administration -> System Monitor
[20:54] <kane77> juano__, (in windows)
[20:54] <beerfa1> apocalypt1: run gnome-system-monitor
[20:54] <juano__> !bcm4xx
[20:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm4xx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:54] <richo> TD-Linux: so i can still write in fstab like: /dev/hdg1 	/home/ftp ext3 defaults 1 2
[20:54] <plamo> Hey all, quick question regarding partitioning.
[20:55] <maybeway36> plamo: what is it?
[20:55] <juano__> Jaszbo: you need that driver bcm4xx
[20:55] <kane77> !bcm43xx
[20:55] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[20:55] <ilreds> hi
[20:55] <Ashfire908> what is mono exactly?
[20:55] <Ashfire908> *what is mono
[20:55] <juano__> thanks kane77
[20:55] <elliotjhug> !hi | ilreds
[20:55] <ubotu> ilreds: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:55] <vanberge> can anyone tell me what special things i have to do to use WPA2 vs. WEP ??  i hate wep
[20:55] <plamo> When I try to unmount my hard drive in order to make a partition, gparted says that I can't unmount it because other devices are set to that mount point. Or something to that effect.
[20:55] <beerfa1> Ashfire908: mono is open-source .net
[20:55] <kane77> Ashfire908, implementation of .net (c#)
[20:55] <maybeway36> Are you running from a live CD?
[20:55] <juano__> kane77: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:56] <plamo> I'm not running liveCD, I have Ubuntu 7.1 installed, and I'm looking to make a windows partition.
[20:56] <maybeway36> You need to use a Live CD like Ubuntu CD or Knoppix
[20:56] <richo> /dev/hdg1 	/home/ftp ext3 defaults 1 2  can i write like that in ubuntu 7.1 even though other object using "UUID=955c661c-a9da-4005-b0c6-ad48b011024"
[20:56] <g-e> plamo: when you type "mount" what is the output?
[20:56] <maybeway36> Otherwise it can't resize your pat\rtitions
[20:56] <RichW> kitche: Ahhh! quote from log.. "Kernel is 64bit but windows driver is not 64bit"
[20:56] <sladjan> can anyone help me to install properly driver for ati toshiba laptop
[20:56] <plamo> Okay, I'll try that
[20:56] <juano__> kane77: in that file enter your windows workgroup in the line workgroup, you must have enabled wins support = yes
[20:57] <ilreds> inserting headphone jack i hear sound from headphone and internal speakers of my laptop, i use utsy, which setting must i change?
[20:57] <g-e> plamo: you cannot "unmount your harddrive". drives are not mounted. partitions are.
[20:57] <juano__> kane77: also add a user to smb, using:  smbpasswd *sambauser*
[20:57] <plamo> G-e: ah, Isee.
[20:57] <vanberge> has anyone ever used ubuntu to connect to a WPA 2 wireless network
[20:57] <playerzen> Hey guys, having a problem here - I can't connect to a server once I'm VPN'd in - but if I ssh to one of our other servers on that network, I can bounce my ssh connection to the server in question.  Why would that be.  Would it be something that needs configuring in openvpn or some obscure networking issue ?
[20:57] <kane77> juano__, what is wins?
[20:57] <aguitel> sladen: use envy
[20:57] <juano__> kane77: that user must be part of local passwd, it will be used to enter the linux shares from windows
[20:58] <juano__> kane77: that will enable wins server in your box
[20:58] <plamo> g-e; can I do it from the live CD, as maybeway suggests?
[20:58] <sladjan> please people need help
[20:58] <juano__> kane77: Windows Internet Naming Service
[20:58] <beerfa1> vanberge: if your access point is using WPA network manager will (usually) detect that
[20:58] <gamag> hi. my networking is working fine. but I want to know which drivers are responsible for its working and what package .deb files contain them. how can I know?
[20:58] <g-e> plamo: depends on what you want to do.
[20:59] <vanberge> beerfa1, and if it is not?  :-/
[20:59] <bullgard4> There is no GUI available for aspell?
[20:59] <beerfa1> then your card/driver may not support it...lots of variables
[20:59] <plamo> g-e: Simply make a partition, and make ubuntu's part of the computer smaller.
[20:59] <elliotjhug> gamag: Presumably you'd lookup your card on google to find out which drivers are used for it, then you'd search synaptic for it
[20:59] <juano__> kane77: WINS is a service run on Windows NT  servers to provide Windows clients a way to find other Windows computers
[20:59] <g-e> plamo: type "fdisk /dev/hda" and then press "p". then show me the output.
[21:00] <vanberge> beerfa1, i know my card does, because i was using wpa2 when i was using 7.10
[21:00] <g-e> plamo: or do the same with parted.
[21:00] <kane77> juano__, thanx.. i'll try to set it...
[21:00] <vanberge> i installed 8.04 this morning and only have wep
[21:00] <marina> hi
[21:00] <crdlb> vanberge: #ubuntu+1
[21:00] <juano__> kane77: yea, just put  wins support = yes   in smb.conf
[21:00] <marina> can someone help me
[21:00] <beerfa1> vanberge: ask in ubuntu+1 then
[21:00] <TBotNik_u> Where is the LAMP install HOWTO for U Desktop?
[21:00] <g-e> plamo: just type "parted" and then press "p"
[21:00] <varsendagger> hey i need to write out some math formulas what is the best way to do this?
[21:01] <varsendagger> ie easiest
[21:01] <plamo> ikay
[21:01] <juano__> marina: ask
[21:01] <ed15003> hi
[21:01] <aguitel> varsendagger: pencil
[21:01] <crdlb> varsendagger: openoffice.org has a simple formula editor
[21:01] <TBotNik_u> hey & howdy
[21:01] <crdlb> using latex is better if you want to put the effort into learning it
[21:01] <varsendagger> crdlb: thanks
[21:01] <plamo> g-e: Error: unable to open /dev/scd0 -unrecognised disk label
[21:02] <marina> i cant turn on visual effects
[21:02] <juano__> !lamp
[21:02] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:02] <g-e> plamo: when you type parted?
[21:02] <crdlb> marina: video card?
[21:02] <slimjimflim> does anyone know where the $myhostname variable is stored? ie. that contains the value of the '<username>-desktop' part of the bash prompt
[21:02] <plamo> when I type parted followed by p
[21:02] <marina> its ati
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> thats probably why, need to install ati drivers
[21:03] <richo> how do i restart fstab?  isnt it something like sudo fstab -a ?
[21:03] <elliotjhug> slimjimflim: I'd imagine its in your bashrc
[21:03] <juano__> marina: installed restricted drivers?
[21:03] <marina> how to do that
[21:03] <crdlb> slimjimflim: the "hostname" command
[21:03] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | marina
[21:03] <ubotu> marina: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:03] <kitche> richo: umm no mount -a
[21:03] <plamo> g-e: when I type parted followed by p
[21:03] <richo> kitche: thx
[21:03] <kitche> richo: don't forget the sudo :)
[21:03] <marina> ok thanks guys
[21:03] <g-e> plamo: and thats the only line it shows?
[21:03] <heavenquake> how do I make intel HDA (realtek) sound work?
[21:03] <slimjimflim> ty
[21:04] <g-e> plamo: because thats about your CD. it should also say something about your HDs...
[21:04] <juano__> slimjimflim: man hostname
[21:04] <crdlb> marina: what ATI card?
[21:04] <elliotjhug> heavenquake: Worked by default on mine, is this a fresh install?
[21:04] <kane77> juano__, now it shows up in windows.. but my username/password doesn't work...
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> !intelhda | heavenquake its not that hard after you do it 1x
[21:04] <ubotu> heavenquake its not that hard after you do it 1x: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:04] <marina> i dont know
[21:04] <slimjimflim> i am juano__, ty
[21:04] <heavenquake> elliotjhug: quite fresh.
[21:04] <marina> how can i c that
[21:04] <crdlb> marina: run "lspci|grep VGA"
[21:04] <crdlb> in a terminal
[21:04] <juano__> kane77: form you linux box, smbpasswd
[21:04] <elliotjhug> heavenquake: Listen to ubotu then - it knows best
[21:04] <marina> ok
[21:05] <juano__> kane77: smbpasswd username
[21:05] <juano__> kane77: that username needs to be a local linux user
[21:05] <IndyGunFreak> heavenquake: you'll need to compilea  new alsa driver, install it, then tell it which configuration to use, its all in those instructions
[21:05] <juano__> kane77: it needs to be in local passwd file
[21:05] <heavenquake> IndyGunFreak: I'll have a look, thank you
[21:05] <plamo> nope.
[21:05] <IndyGunFreak> heavenquake: np...
[21:05] <marina>  ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[21:05] <IndyGunFreak> heavenquake: if you need help, letm e know, i'll try to help, but those instructions are pretty clear
[21:05] <juano__> kane77: after giving user and pass , try entering from your windows box
[21:05] <juano__> kane77: with that user and pass
[21:06] <aladinsano> Is there a way of opening up TCP and UDP ports independeantly in Firestarter?
[21:06] <plamo> g-e: just that I'm not superuser, watch out for permission, unable to open /dev/scd0 read write
[21:06] <crdlb> marina: did you enable the restricted driver?
[21:06] <marina> where shoul i do that
[21:06] <g-e> plamo: try "sudo parted"
[21:07] <crdlb> marina: system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[21:07] <kane77> juano__, wow.. it works.. thanx a lot!
[21:07] <plamo> kk
[21:07] <juano__> kane77: great your welcome
[21:07] <lacostej> Hei,
[21:07] <marina> i have 2 drivers here
[21:07] <plamo> g-e; whats pastebin again? I'll throw it in there.
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | plamo
[21:08] <ubotu> plamo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:08] <juano__> kane77: there is a good guide at the samba homepage for a more detailed config, etc.
[21:08] <jacob> i want to install gnomeapplet module, how do i do that?
[21:08] <heavenquake> IndyGunFreak: It fails when I try to "make" the alsa-driver
[21:08] <jacob> gnomeapplet python module that is
[21:08] <juano__> kane77: www.samba.org/
[21:08] <lacostej> I am trying to debug suspend/resume issues. I have a Lenovo 3000 N100, and if I enable suspend, and close my lid, the machine goes into suspend mode, but then nothing happens if I reopen. Is there any way to debug the issue ?
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> heavenquake: then you're doing something wrong... type this w/o quotes... /join #indygunfreak
[21:08] <plamo> g-e: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46497/
[21:08] <juano__> kane77: the best is to keep it simple though, not to much inside smb.conf
[21:09] <marina> which one should i enable
[21:09] <marina> the one in use or not in use
[21:10] <marina> crdlb pls
[21:10] <g-e> plamo: ok, and you want to shrink that partition number 1, right?
[21:10] <richo> kitche i didnt. it worked ;) thx alot. ciao
[21:10] <plamo> g-e Correct
[21:11] <crdlb> marina: the ATI proprietary driver
[21:11] <marina> and now
[21:11] <crdlb> marina: was it enabled?
[21:11] <g-e> plamo: have you already tried to do it with parted?
[21:11] <Floid> Is anyone able to mount floppies in 7.10, or is the kernel driver just completely broken?
[21:11] <marina> yes but it wasnt in use
[21:12] <crdlb> marina: is it now?
[21:12] <plamo> Yeah, it said that I couldn't unmount the first one, because of other devices, g-e.
[21:12] <marina> its still not in use
[21:12] <crdlb> then you need to fix that
[21:12] <g-e> plamo: then use a live-cd.
[21:12] <marina> atheros is in use
[21:12] <otherman> hi, there is an italian channel?
[21:12] <LjL> !it | otherman
[21:12] <ubotu> otherman: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:12] <plamo> g-e: Just throw it in there, boot from it and done?
[21:13] <otherman> thanks ubotu
[21:13] <macogw> after doing today's updates, firefox-3.0 no longer works.  it says "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9a8 and 1.9a8."
[21:13] <txoof> I'd like to install gnome (and X and all that comes with it), but I don't want to run the whole X login frontend.  I just need gnome for some vnc stuff that will be running off this box.  Is it possible to either avoid installing the login stuff (if so, what's it called?), and if not, can it be disabled?
[21:13] <g-e> plamo: yes. throw in the cd, ubuntu comes up, start a shell, type "parted" and then resize the partition.
[21:13] <macogw> txoof: it's called gdm
[21:13] <marina> ill restart my pc
[21:14] <macogw> plamo: or use the partitioner in system > admin > gnome partitioner on the live cd
[21:14] <txoof> macogw: I bet a billion things are dependent on it, eh?
[21:14] <macogw> txoof: no idea
[21:14] <g-e> macogw: is the partitioner cooler then parted?
[21:15] <CoasterMaster> txoof, you can probably do a command-line only install (use the alternate CD) and just install gnome separately
[21:15] <eNons3nse> can someone please help me.  i'm getting an input/output error when i try to copy files from my external mp3 player.
[21:15] <xyber411> hi...  I'm having some trouble with the fglrx 7.11 driver.  Everything works in it, but it seems to be using the cpu instead of the gpu for everything.  any ideas?
[21:15] <plamo> okay, thanks g-e, macogw.
[21:15] <txoof> macogw: is the X-login stuff a different init level?
[21:15] <macogw> g-e: gparted seems a lot easier than the one that's in the updater.  i dont know which one runs if you type "parted"
[21:15] <juano__> eNons3nse: what sort of error ?
[21:15] <Floid> txoof: If you have the disk space, just install and disable gdm launching with update-rc.d.
[21:15] <krypto84sv> como puedo ver el modelo de mi disco duro en consola?
[21:15] <CoasterMaster> !es | krypto84sv
[21:15] <ubotu> krypto84sv: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[21:15] <macogw> txoof: um..its the same as when you do startx, except gdm manages how many gnome sessions are running and lets you login graphically
[21:15] <eNons3nse> juano__: here is an example of what it says.  cp: reading `Dubwise & Otherwise 2/Gregory Isaacs - Slave Master.mp3': Input/output error
[21:16] <ampex> xyber411: what would lead you to the conclusion that it is "using the CPU for everthing" ?
[21:16] <txoof> CoasterMaster: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.  I would like gnome and all the X deps, just not gdm.  I think I can probably weed that out though.
[21:16] <juano__> eNons3nse: is the device properly mounted ?
[21:16] <g-e> macogw: "gparted"? when i type "gparted", its not found.
[21:16] <CoasterMaster> txoof, yeah, I'm not sure exactly what packages you're going to need unfortunately
[21:16] <juano__> eNons3nse: when you plugged in the mp3 player, it should appear on the desktop
[21:16] <beerfa1> g-e: it's not installed by default
[21:16] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: have a look in dmesg
[21:16] <CoasterMaster> but that install won't install any GNOME or GUI stuff
[21:16] <macogw> g-e: i dont know the command for it.  it's in the menu on the live cd
[21:16] <eNons3nse> juano__: should be.  it auto mounts when i plug it in.  i can browse the file system & see everything that's there.  nothing looks out of the ordinary.
[21:17] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: dmesg?
[21:17] <macogw> after doing today's updates, firefox-3.0 no longer works.  it says "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9a8 and 1.9a8."
[21:17] <g-e> macogw: ah, ok. so its not in the installed version at all, as i understand it.
[21:17] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: also maybe try removing any other USB storage devices
[21:17] <juano__> eNons3nse: i see... , do a cat /etc/mtab and see if it appears there
[21:17] <macogw> g-e: no but you can get it from the repos
[21:17] <g-e> macogw: i had good luck with parted so far.
[21:17] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: yes, dmesg, it's a list of kernel system messages
[21:17] <macogw> g-e: is parted gui or command line?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: looks very scary, often tells you when things have gone phut or are about to
[21:18] <macogw> g-e: partman is horrible.  i dont know why they put that in the installer now.  yuck
[21:18] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: as in the HD in my mp3 player?
[21:18] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: ah, is it actually a hard disk?
[21:18] <Floid> txoof:  Looks like you could also just uninstall the gdm package.
[21:18] <g-e> macogw: parted is commandline. just type "parted" and youll see. very useful.
[21:18] <otherman> about fglrx... with the new driver it's pratically impossible to see any video (slow, slow and slow!). there is a way to fix the problem? i've the "beautifull" ati x200
[21:18] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: yes
[21:18] <xyber411> when I open my system monitor while using glxgears, the cpu is at ~100% always
[21:18] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: archos 404
[21:19] <ampex> otherman: what version were you using previously, was it any better?
[21:19] <juano__> eNons3nse: what filesystem ?
[21:19] <ampex> xyber411: what GPU?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: is it behaving itself otherwise?
[21:19] <Jaszbo> Hi room. I finally got my laptop to recognize my wireless card, but it still isn't bringing up any content. Any help?
[21:19] <txoof> Floid: yea, I'm going to have to check the deps on things.
[21:19] <ampex> xyber411: does glxinfo show ATI opengl?
[21:19] <Floid> otherman: Is direct rendering working?
[21:19] <xyber411> yes
[21:19] <xyber411> all ati
[21:19] <Odd-rationale> Is there a key stroke to restart compiz? Or can a create one>
[21:19] <Odd-rationale> ?
[21:19] <beerfa1> restart?
[21:19] <ampex> xyber411: what specific ATI GPU are you using?
[21:19] <otherman> 8.40 worked perfect... from 8.42 i've the problem
[21:19] <Floid> txoof: Chances are the meta-pkgs suck it in, but nothing should barf if you yank it out after installing.
[21:20] <xyber411> 9600
[21:20]  * gordonjcp -> off out
[21:20] <beerfa1> Odd-rationale: ctrl-all-bkspc
[21:20] <romme> is it safe to follow instructions at http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions to shrink a partition on ubuntu gutsy?
[21:20] <juano__> Jaszbo: is the card on roaming mode ? if so in the desktop nm-applet click on it and it should show nearby networks
[21:20] <Floid> Although you might have to call gnome-session in your .xinitrc etc.
[21:20] <ampex> I know that on my 9800 pro, the opensource ati driver performs better than fglrx
[21:20] <ampex> for compiz and general gnome use
[21:20] <Odd-rationale> beerfa1: That restarts X. Can I just restart compiz?
[21:20] <txoof> Floid: as long as the init level is set right for booting...  As I recall xlogin is a different inti level than the standard multiuser login.
[21:21] <Ballena> if a CLI or TUI app is started with the system. How do I open it without open a new session of the program?
[21:21] <beerfa1> compiz --replace *may* do it. don't know
[21:21] <eNons3nse> juano__: i don't know what file system is on there.  it runs on linux though.
[21:21] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Thanks for LAMP link.  Noticed empty httpd.conf file on my desktop version, but server version is fine.  Just need localhost on Desktop for PHP dev.  I went to #apache for some help on virtual host, but got none.  Have server config with localhost and 3 intranet/nameserver hosts needed.  Put up my code at:  http://www.apagelounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9401#9401
[21:21] <Floid> I'm from BSD-land, your runlevels are mysterious and silly to me. ;)
[21:21] <Odd-rationale> 'Cause every now and then compiz crashes and I was looking for the quickest way to start it back up again, preferably a key stroke.
[21:21] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: everything seems to be working otherwise.  it still plays and i was just using it on my friends mac last night.
[21:21] <xyber411> I am using the radeon 9600
[21:22] <hookdump> how can I enter to console mode with the ubuntu live cd? X doesnt work in my old pc :S
[21:22] <juano__> eNons3nse: sudo fdisk -l  should output all disks connected to the motherboard, there your device's filesystem should appear
[21:22] <juano__> eNons3nse: and there partitions of course
[21:22] <Ballena> FloodBot1:  what is a runlevel?
[21:22] <Odd-rationale> beerfa1: ^
[21:22] <Floid> For video, Xv has been broken in fglrx, so make sure you're using plain X11, or if plain X11 is taxing the cpu and direct rendering works, try GL.
[21:22] <Jaszbo> ! nm
[21:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:22] <beerfa1> Odd-rationale: it's possible to create a script and bind a keystroke to it.
[21:22] <LjL> Ballena: something you shouldn't mess with
[21:22] <Jaszbo> ! nm-applet
[21:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm-applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:23] <macogw> xyber411: the open source one seems to work better on most radeon 9xxx than the binary does
[21:23] <Floid> However, if glxgears takes 100% CPU then fglrx probably isn't quite installed right.
[21:23] <Odd-rationale> beerfa1: OK. Thanks for the tip!
[21:23] <ampex> fglrx seems to mostly suck :(
[21:23] <Jaszbo> ! network-manager-applet
[21:23] <thinh> how do your format a drive in ubuntu?
[21:23] <otherman> otherwise.. now the real problem is an other... I deleted many file... 2GB maeby.. but i've only 200MB of free space. why?
[21:23] <eth01> fdisk
[21:23] <LjL> thinh: man mkfs
[21:24] <beerfa1> thinh: boot with a live cd and run the partition manager
[21:24]  * genii sips a coffee
[21:24] <eNons3nse> juano__: it's FAT32
[21:24] <thinh> i have gparted install
[21:24] <xyber411> switching to gl now
[21:24] <juano__> eNons3nse: filesystem should be mounted as vfat then
[21:24] <xyber411> I'll see if that works
[21:24] <heartsblood> If I have a question about mencoder, where should I ask it for the best response?
[21:24] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Also need some quick help with sound.  Can't get any from this box with U Desktop.
[21:24] <beerfa1> thinh: if you can unmount the partition then that will work.
[21:24] <juano__> !alsa | TBotNik
[21:24] <ubotu> TBotNik: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:25] <eNons3nse> juano__: it's /dev/sdb1
[21:25] <thinh> i try mount ext hd but i only get read only
[21:25] <juano__> eNons3nse: yep, does it show up while connected in /etc/mtab ?
[21:25] <thinh> how do i make it so i get full permission to the ext hd anyone?
[21:25] <Floid> ampex: Seems like the AMD-ATI merger inspired them to refactor it, probably in a team undergoing a lot of turnover, so it should slowly stop regressing someday.  Or not.
[21:25] <beerfa1> thinh: the partition must NOT be mounted to format
[21:26] <juano__> eNons3nse: does this happen only in ubuntu, have you tried connecting it to windows box or other OS ?
[21:26] <thinh> i know what but when i format it i still can write anything to it
[21:26] <eNons3nse> juano__: yea.  it says vfat in there.  /dev/sdb1 /media/AV404 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree 0 0
[21:26] <eNons3nse> /dev/sdb1 /media/AV404_ vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree 0 0
[21:26] <otherman> sorry for repetition... I deleted many file... 2GB maeby.. but i've only 200MB of free space. why?
[21:26] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: seems a bit odd
[21:26] <Floid> otherman: Were they sparse files?
[21:26] <LjL> otherman: possibly because they were mostly zero-filled files, like incomplete parts of torrents for instance
[21:26] <eNons3nse> i haven't tried plugging it into a different OS since yesterday
[21:27] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: I'd see if dmesg is full of funny errors, possibly to do with USB
[21:27] <beerfa1> thinh: what partition type are you formatting with? ext3?
[21:27] <thinh> ext3
[21:27] <macogw> Floid: i thought it was because dell told them "make a working linux driver, or we drop you" so they scrapped the whole thing because it sucked and started over trying to make a good one, and thye current version is basically an alpha of what will someday, hopefully, be better than what we had
[21:27] <thinh> yeah
[21:27] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: where do i find that?
[21:27] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: definitely try it without any other usb-storage defices on the same bus
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> #eee
[21:27] <beerfa1> is the partition mounted after you formatted?
[21:27] <Odd-rationale> Sorry
[21:27] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: type "dmesg" in a terminal
[21:27] <juano__> eNons3nse: mmm seems fine with the rw option, that should let you write fine , is this USB ? try another USB if it is
[21:27] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Volume control is disabled and get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." error when trying to open it.
[21:27] <juano__> eNons3nse: also do what gordonjcp suggests
[21:28] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: heh.  i'm trying to copy files from my usb mp3 player to my usb external HD.  that's the only other thing plugged in other than my mouse.
[21:28] <Floid> macogw: Could be but I doubt it.  If anything it seems like they got distracted when AMD people came in and actually started auditing what they could release to get the open-source drivers up to par.
[21:29] <Floid> ...Which would be why the open-source driver is rapidly improving on fglrx now, too. ;)
[21:29] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: yeah.  there's some crazy stuff in that log.  let me put it on pastebin.
[21:29] <thinh> i was able to delete some files in the folder when i change the file ownership but i need to make the whole drive accessable by everyone
[21:29] <otherman> the files was on desktop.. 2 divx and other
[21:29] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: maybe just the last few lines, eh
[21:29] <Floid> Um, anyway, anyone have comments on my question re: is 2.6.22-14's floppy support utterly broken?
[21:29] <juano__> TBotNik what sound card ?
[21:30] <Floid> otherman:  When in doubt, see if anything changes after a 'sync.'
[21:30] <gordonjcp> Floid: that's a pretty vague question
[21:30] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: http://pastebin.com/d3ba119d
[21:30] <gordonjcp> Floid: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:30] <otherman> sync?
[21:31] <Floid> gordon: Mount a floppy, obviously.  Can you do this successfully? :)
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !gstreamer
[21:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:31] <marina> crdlb
[21:31] <Wolf23> somebody help me please?
[21:31] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Have loaded all the ALSA and sound mix progs by hand but still does not work.  It think it has something to do with the MB.  My buddy found he had to install a Creative PCI card, then run ALSA and then and only then did the onboard sound chip get activated.  Think there is a basic sound system file missing in the ALSA and kernel files that the Creative driver set has that kicks it all off, but I'm just speculating.
[21:31] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: lol, that pastebin url looks vaguely rude, I bet the more vocal ops will whine about it
[21:31] <marina> still problem
[21:31] <gordonjcp> !ask | Wolf23
[21:31] <ubotu> Wolf23: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:31] <Floid> Note all the noise about floppy I/O errors causing failed boots on systems without floppies drowning out any data on whether anyone's floppy does actually work.
[21:31] <ganton516> Can someone out there answer what is probably a really dumb question about RAID with Gutsy
[21:31] <beerfa1> thinh: you must add the partition to /etc/fstab. http://www.bradtrupp.com/id/unbuntu-add-hard-drive.html
[21:32] <otherman> after sync i've 140MB of free space O_o
[21:32] <Wolf23> gordonjcp:  thanx, but i have a file .wmv and cannot open
[21:32] <juano__> TBotNik_u: have you tried this MB with other OS's ?
[21:33] <marina> please help me to have visual effects
[21:33] <otherman> Floid: after "sync" i've 140MB of free space (before 180MB)
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> eNons3nse: bad sector on the usb drive?
[21:33] <Wolf23> gordonjcp:  i try vlc,kmplayer, real and kaffeine, and cannot open it
[21:33] <Jaszbo> juano_: Are you still in here?
[21:33] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Same Problem on Gentoo, but Win 2K is fine.
[21:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted | Wolf23
[21:33] <ubotu> Wolf23: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:33] <Floid> I get the same Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 errors that the floppy-less people gripe about, but also timeout errors, failed reads, and general complete malfunction.
[21:33] <segagman> so i got this box tru bootn
[21:33] <segagman> tri*
[21:34] <TBotNik_u> MB is ECS 755-A
[21:34] <juano__> TBotNik_u: yea probably alsa is missing a config file or somethin
[21:34] <Wolf23> Jack_Sparrow:  i am newbie on this friend, can u help me please
[21:34] <juano__> Jaszbo: yes
[21:34] <gordonjcp> Floid: what are you talking about, specifically?
[21:34] <juano__> TBotNik_u: try google ? ill search some and let u know if anything shows up
[21:34] <Jaszbo> I just wanted to thank you for all of your help, juano_. It is working like a champ.
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolf23: Please start by reading the link and adding the restricted drivers they suggest
[21:34] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Wish I knew which file, cause I go find it.
[21:34] <segagman> beryl skydome wont show on a mx4000
[21:34] <juano__> Jaszbo: ahh... good to hear, your welcome!
[21:34] <Floid> sudo head /dev/fd0 |hd  ->  head: error reading `/dev/fd0': Input/output error
[21:34] <marina> will anyone help me or to take out this os
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[21:35] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[21:35] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: try removing any other USB devices - bare minimum, mouse and keyboard if they're USB and that's about it, and rebooting
[21:35] <Floid> That's probably the best example of absolutely nothing working.  There's a good floppy in there. ;)
[21:35] <Jaszbo> Cya.
[21:35] <segagman> sudo go make me a sanwich
[21:35] <TBotNik_u> juano__: What do you know bout Apache?
[21:35] <juano__> Jaszbo: cya
[21:35] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: and then plug in your mp3 player
[21:35] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: i'm trying it in a different usb port and it's going very very slow and giving I/O errors while copying.
[21:35] <gordonjcp> Floid: how do you know there's a good floppy in there?
[21:35] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: hmmm
[21:35] <plamo> new problem, g-e. My laptop isn't recognising the live CD
[21:35] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: did this change after any updates, or has it ever worked at all?
[21:35] <juano__> TBotNik_u: not much :( , though i didnt understand well, you want to enable an apache server ?
[21:35] <Floid> Confirmed with systems that have working drivers, e.g. DragonFly BSD, Ubuntu 6.10 LTS?
[21:36] <gordonjcp> Floid: hm, I'm using floppies with Gutsy, and it works just fine
[21:36] <gordonjcp> Floid: perhaps you should file a bug
[21:36] <Shadow147> hey I remembered something my graphics card came with my computer and it's not intergrated it's taking a pci slot
[21:36] <gordonjcp> Floid: what controller are you using?
[21:36] <Floid> What's your hardware, and is it SMP?  I tacked on to an old bug, but I might need to open one, yes.
[21:36] <comicinker> I cannot open glade files from anjuta. if I do so, I receive: Aborted (core dumped) I also cannot start the help
[21:36] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: It's always been kinda flaky with linux to some degree.  but it did just start doing this today.
[21:36] <gordonjcp> Floid: it's not SMP, but that would be a pretty odd regression.  It's a VIA chipset.
[21:36] <Shadow147> I am still trying to get ZGLX and OpeGl working
[21:36] <Wolf23> Jack_Sparrow:  i already have this driver --> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[21:36] <marina> noone wants to help me
[21:37] <Floid> AMD/ATI SB600, "[    3.844000] FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077"
[21:37] <Shadow147> GLZ*
[21:37] <whta> i've been fiddling around with automatix and suddenly it wants me to install a bunch of backport updates.. should i?
[21:37] <juano__> marina: ask
[21:37] <brobostigon> ubuntu 6.10 is not LTS. 8.04 will be LTS.
[21:37] <juano__> marina: about the ATI card ?
[21:37] <LjL> !automatix | whta
[21:37] <ubotu> whta: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[21:37] <segagman> i got plenty of cpu cylcles and bandwith is there a good cause i can lend it to?
[21:37] <marina> visual effects and sound is not working\
[21:37] <TBotNik_u> juano__: No have Virtual Host problem at: http://www.apagelounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9401#9401
[21:37] <marina> yes
[21:37] <beerfa1> Wolf23: if you have the codec already, it could be a bad wmv. Some have adware codecs embedded.
[21:37] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse: might want to google for the error message "hostbyte=DID_ERROR" etc in dmesg
[21:37] <eNons3nse> gordonjcp: it's still copying but it's taking much longer than it should.  when i click "retry" on those I/O errors it works
[21:37] <whta> i'll take that as a "don't." should i disable backports, then?
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Floid:    dd if=/dev/fd0 of=floppy.img                 will try to read a floppy and write an image file of it.. not that  you wanted to do that, just tossing a suggestion.
[21:37] <Floid> gordon: It certainly is an odd regression, especially since earlier kernels had more than a snowball's chance of working.
[21:37] <Shadow147> marina sound is a sound card problem
[21:37] <TU> is there anyway to mae an ubuntu cd start SSH automatically so i can install it remotely?
[21:38] <segagman> bionic?
[21:38] <juano__> !alsa | marina
[21:38] <ubotu> marina: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:38] <Floid> Jack: If it dies on an I/O error before reading anything from the floppy device, that doesn't help much.
[21:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Wolf23: What about w32codecs and gstreamer etc?
[21:38] <gordonjcp> Floid: I honestly can't think of any problems I've had with floppy drives under Linux, except for the time the drive went on fire
[21:38] <sethk> TU, not without creating a customized cd
[21:38] <Wolf23> beerfa1:  oh ic'
[21:38] <TU> lame.
[21:38] <gordonjcp> Floid: and to be fair, that wasn't a software problem
[21:38] <segagman> aoutomatix
[21:38] <ozzloy> is there a way to switch keyboard layout across the entire desktop instead of per-app?
[21:38] <juano__> TBotNik_u: not able to open that link
[21:38] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Was going to use pastebin, but they were all down.  Think they all were in maint by same admin team.
[21:38] <sethk> gordonjcp, you aren't supposed to put gasoline in the floppy drive.  :)
[21:38] <gordonjcp> sethk: yes, yes, I know that *now*
[21:38] <segagman> google aoutomatix it is deb so ur good
[21:38] <Wolf23> Jack_Sparrow:  i think i have them installed
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix | segagman:
[21:39] <ubotu> segagman:: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[21:39] <TBotNik_u> juano__: I'll cut & paste from Win, have it there.
[21:39] <Shadow147> how can I get GLX and OpenGL working on a graphics card that came with my PC but it's not Intergrated?
[21:39] <plamo> Anyone know why my live CD isn't running? I had my hard drive set as 'do not boot', and my laptop simply said there was no OS installed, instead of booting from the CD.
[21:39] <Jack_Sparrow> segagman: Please do NOT suggest that to users in this channel
[21:39] <Floid> I smoked one on the phone to QLogic tech support a dozen years ago when it was plugged in upside-down. ;)  But this one's fine in hardware, I can boot from it.
[21:39] <comicinker> help: I cannot open glade files from anjuta. if I do so, I receive: Aborted (core dumped) I also cannot start the help
[21:39] <juano__> TBotNik_u: ok, use pastebin
[21:39] <gordonjcp> Floid: I regularly use 3.5", 5.25" and 8" floppies, although the 8" floppy isn't on a "normal" controller ;-)
[21:39] <otherman> there is in ubuntu something to get free space on hd? (sorry for my english)
[21:39] <Ballena> if a CLI or TUI app is started with the system. How do I open it without open a new session of the program?
[21:39]  * gordonjcp -> off out
[21:39] <Shadow147> plamo your iso could be corrupt
[21:39] <Floid> Catweasel? :>
[21:40] <beerfa1> plamo: either you burned the cd wrong or your bios is ancient?
[21:40] <plamo> Shadow147: It worked last time I used it.
[21:40] <comicinker> otherman: what free space?
[21:40] <Shadow147> or your cd is bad
[21:40] <TBotNik> juano__: OK it is: http://www.apachelounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9401#9401 straight from the browser.
[21:40] <gordonjcp> Ballena: screen, maybe?
[21:40] <Shadow147> plamo your cd could be bad?
[21:40] <marina> track is playing but i dont hear any sound
[21:40] <juano__> plamo: in BIOS did you set the boot priority to 1st CDROM ?=
[21:40] <Wolf23> beerfa1:  how can i get codes for kaffeine?
[21:40] <plamo> SHadow: OK
[21:40] <segagman> it is good for the end user
[21:40] <Floid> Anyhow, this is horrible to the extent that I support an attorney and the courts here only offer their digital transcripts on floppy.
[21:40] <plamo> Juano: yep
[21:40] <plamo> I'll try a different disk, then, be right back
[21:40] <Ballena> gordonjcp: ok, so screen is for open already staed apps?
[21:40] <beerfa1> codes? kaffeine? don't know
[21:40] <segagman> the n00b non elite
[21:40] <gordonjcp> Ballena: well, depends what you're trying to do
[21:40] <Jack_Sparrow> segagman: There is NO reason for anyone to use Automatix..
[21:41] <Floid> ...So if everyone else thinks it works, I'll suck this off on a different machine and file a bug on Monday. :P
[21:41] <segagman> isnt that what ubuntu is for?
[21:41] <sethk> Ballena, no, you have to start the app from a screen session
[21:41] <gordonjcp> Ballena: I have to leave now, so I can't directly answer your question, but perhaps if you explain a bit more about the problem someone else can help
[21:41] <Ballena> gordonjcp: ok, rTorrents starts with m system so I want to open it
[21:41] <Ballena> ok
[21:41] <Ballena> thnaks for help, goin to try screen
[21:41] <Wolf23> Jack_Sparrow:   how can i get codes for kaffeine?
[21:42] <TBotNik_u> juano__: If it still bombs try https:// instead.
[21:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !wmv
[21:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:42] <NewUserr> hi i have problems to install my printer again ( it worked before) .I cant open printer database :( can anybody help me please
[21:42] <ganton516> can someone answer a really dumb question about DMRAID ?
[21:42] <whta> ok so i just installed automatix, used it to get some fonts and codecs, and then saw it's bad and uninstalled it. now the font in my terminal is something different. how do i revert my terminal font?
[21:42] <TBotNik_u> juano__: I've got upgrade to 7.10 going on this box so bandwith is smashed.
[21:42] <otherman> comicinker.. i've deleted file for 2GB but the space on hd is only 140MB
[21:43] <sethk> otherman, from the command line, or from the GUI?
[21:43] <beerfa1> otherman: empty trashcan?
[21:43] <Jack_Sparrow> otherman: look in .Trash  or /root/.Trash if deleted as root
[21:43] <segagman> i have set up a bartpe dvd to install tiny xp and cracked programes and i keep preacheing ubuntu yet linux folks are stand offish how em i sopose to explain that?
[21:43] <TD-Linux> whta, default font in ubuntu is DejaVu Sans
[21:43] <TBotNik_u> juano__: Upgrade still has 2.5 hours
[21:43] <NewUserr> hi i have problems to install my printer again ( it worked before) .I cant open printer database :( can anybody help me please
[21:43] <otherman> .trash is empty... i deleted from gui
[21:44] <marina> is it possible to get in my pc and to solve my problem guys\
[21:44] <sethk> segagman, don't need to explain it, just find people who are less standoffish
[21:44] <segagman> <has loged off
[21:44] <Jack_Sparrow> segagman: We dont do CRACKED programs in this channel... open source has nothing to do with pirated software
[21:44] <comicinker> otherman: which file-manager? nautilus? thunar?
[21:44] <whta> TD-Linux: ok, so how would i go about reverting the terminal? everything else is as it should be
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> thunar is my fav..
[21:45] <juano__> TBotNik_u: as far as i know , loopback 127.0.0.1  shouldn't be referred to as the local pc hostname (read it isn't recommended) , but as localhost
[21:45] <NewUserr> hi i have problems to install my printer again ( it worked before) .I cant open printer database :( can anybody help me please
[21:45] <otherman> ehm.. i dont know.. i use gnome...
[21:45] <marina> is it possible to get in my pc and to solve my problem guys
[21:45] <comicinker> then thunar
[21:45] <whta> actually in Appearance > Fonts, I see monospace as the font now, but it's not the same as what it was. what's the default TERMINAL font?
[21:45] <sethk> NewUserr, make sure you are running with admin permissions
[21:46] <TBotNik> juano__: Explain, cus I don't understand
[21:46] <beerfa1> whta: your terminal profile may be using a font other than the desktop default
[21:46] <NewUserr> sethk i do but it crashes when i try to add my printer dont know why
[21:46] <erUSUL> whta: deja vu mono?
[21:46] <comicinker> otherman: can you type df -h in a command line?
[21:46] <Nilbus> Ubuntu doesn't come with support for ipw2200? :/
[21:47] <otherman> yes..
[21:47] <erUSUL> !wifi | Nilbus
[21:47] <Nilbus> I'm following this howto: 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
[21:47] <ubotu> Nilbus: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:47] <Nilbus> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
[21:47] <Nilbus> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
[21:47] <Nilbus> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
[21:47] <NewUserr> sethk:but it worked before ( had to format und reinstall ubuntu)
[21:47] <erUSUL> !paste | Nilbus
[21:47] <ubotu> Nilbus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:47] <otherman> yes cominciker
[21:47] <TBotNik> juano__: docroot for localhost is "E:/Local Files"
[21:47] <Nilbus> sorry.. paste buffer wrong
[21:47] <rencore_> why is it when i take my usb mouse out and then i put it back in it doesnt work
[21:47] <iceman_> ubotu : thanks for the link
[21:47] <sethk> NewUserr, there are so many possibilities, it's hard to know where to start.  Is that the only thing that's broken?
[21:47] <juano__> TBotNik_u: that in the hosts file, 127.0.0.1 shouldn't be referred to davisoft-aec.com ,  but to localhost,  should be:  127.0.0.1     localhost
[21:48] <Floid> Oh, hnuh, data point:  Floppy does work under 7.10 with my Thinkpad, which Linux thinks has a NatSemi PC87306 for FDC 0.  So it is 'just' the SB600 and who knows what other hardware.
[21:48] <whta> huhh, did automatix change the default "Monospace" font on me?
[21:48] <NewUserr> sethk:gnome-cups-add doesnt answer i get as error message
[21:48] <juano__> TBotNik_u: if you have a static public IP number, then that one should be referred to davisoft-aec.com
[21:48] <marina> this is no fair no one wants to help a lady
[21:48] <comicinker> otherman: a hint: type the first letters of a nickname, then press the <tab> key for autocomplete
[21:48] <sethk> NewUserr, why did you need to reinstall?
[21:48] <juano__> TBotNik_u: or private ip if it is for internal LAN use only
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> whta: It did a lot worse than just change a font...
[21:48] <marina> where r u gentelmans\
[21:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude
[21:48] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:49] <TBotNik> juano__: It works fine.  With latest entries I show in code can access second with localhost:90
[21:49] <whta> jack_sparrow: well what did it do!? and how do i fix it?
[21:49] <comicinker> otherman: so, the space still missing in the output of df -h?
[21:49] <beerfa1> marina: the easier you make it to you help the more likely it is you'll be helped
[21:49] <otherman> thanks comicinker
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix | whta
[21:49] <ubotu> whta: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[21:49] <TBotNik> juano__: it's intranet
[21:49] <graymaster> !attitude
[21:49] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:49] <NewUserr> sethk:i changed things and so not everything was working right so i had to reinstall again
[21:49] <nick__> why does my installation require i insert my cd when i install build essential?
[21:49] <otherman> but for my problem? :)
[21:49] <comicinker> otherman: so, the space still missing in the output of df -h?
[21:49] <Jack_Sparrow> nick__: remove the cd from your sources list
[21:49] <sainzeo> hey everyone, upon opening evolution with a groupwise account, it crashes with a segmentation fault - any ideas?
[21:50] <juano__> TBotNik_u: and localhost:80 is what is failing or no ?
[21:50] <marina> thx philosoph
[21:50] <otherman> yes... 140MB free
[21:50] <erUSUL> nick__: becouse you cd is still on the sources list. Go to System>Admin>Software Sources and disable de CDrom
[21:50] <graymaster> whats your favorite gnome theme
[21:50] <graymaster> ?
[21:50] <nick__> ok
[21:50] <TBotNik> juano__: Will add host with public IP later
[21:50] <ganton516> Should a BIOS raid array be used with DMRAID, or should it be turned off ?
[21:50] <juano__> TBotNik_u:  ok
[21:50] <whta> ok, so i see now that automatix is terrible. and i have promptly removed it. but this font thing is really bugging me.
[21:51] <NewUserr> someone knows what i should do when i get this error message:gnome-cups-add doesnt answer
[21:51] <huppi> i need to write cds and dvds, which program is the common sense choice of the day ?
[21:51] <NKD-> Hi all. Earlier I was having problems with my NAT, but I fixed it. However, now I cant get anything to run on startup. I've tried putting stuff in /etc/rc.local and in a custom script I chmod +x'd in /etc/init.d
[21:51] <Jack_Sparrow> whta: removing it does NOT fix the problem...  See the article
[21:51] <NKD-> Nothing that web tutorials indicate seems to work, as far as getting a command to execute on startup
[21:51] <TBotNik> juano__: localhost:80 or localhost are same and working.  Last 2 defs won't work.  Tried dif listen ports but good at know what is open.
[21:51] <erUSUL> huppi: GnomeBaker or Brasero. K3b if you are on kubuntu
[21:51] <juano__> huppi: gnomebaker
[21:51] <comicinker> otherman: df -h displays the used hard disc space of mounted volumes. I just want to get sure your gui displays the correct value
[21:51] <atlef> huppi: gnomebaker or k3b
[21:51] <huppi> thank you thanks you tahnsk
[21:51] <ozzloy> how do i toggle keyboard layout for the entire desktop at once?
[21:52] <erUSUL> huppi: also Places>DVD cd Creator works quite well
[21:52] <karim> would there be a way to totally rebuild an Ubuntu mirrot for a specific target and optimisations or is it impossible at all ?
[21:52] <otherman> yes is the same from the gui and from df -h
[21:52] <Nilbus> I'm following the wifi guide, and it says to copy firmware to /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware, but /usr/{lib,lib64}/hotplug doesn't exist on this gusty livecd
[21:52] <juano__> TBotNik_u: by last 2 you mean ServerAlias davisoft-aec.com *.davisoft-aec.com  &&  DocumentRoot "E:/Local Files/HTML Files/New Home/Site"  ?
[21:52] <rencore_> why doesnt ubuntu see my usb mouse
[21:52] <NewUserr> someone knows what i should do when i get this error message:gnome-cups-add doesnt answer
[21:52] <beerfa1> ozzloy: System > Keyboard > layouts
[21:52] <marina> thanks for nothing
[21:52] <beerfa1> system > prefs > keyboard
[21:52] <dana_bad> speaking of burning cds, as i was trying to burn an iso my computer decided that i didnt have a cd burner anymore
[21:52] <marina> ill take out this ubuntu
[21:53] <dana_bad> it was in the options for burners to use then it was gone
[21:53] <marina> thought ill get some help here
[21:53] <TBotNik> juano__: No U-local.com and Manuals.com
[21:53] <NewUserr> someone knows what i should do when i get this error message:gnome-cups-add doesnt answer , i cant add my printer
[21:53] <comicinker> otherman: search for the file with the gnome-search-tool. make sure you search for hidden files, too
[21:53] <rencore_> gnome-cups-add was removed i think
[21:53] <juano__> marina: plz ask your question
[21:53] <rencore_> i could be wrong
[21:53] <sethk> dana_bad, if it is still missing after a reboot, it is probably a hardware problem
[21:53] <erUSUL> marina: what is the problem?
[21:53] <Nematocyst> Do I need to build a custom kernel for huge page support (CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE), and assuming so, will I run into trouble with my nvidia restricted drivers if I do so?
[21:53] <juano__> TBotNik_u:  ahhhh lol....
[21:53] <juano__> TBotNik_u:  gotcha
[21:53] <marina> i said several times i have problems with ati\
[21:54] <marina> and with sound
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> juano__: i'd say his attitude is a problem..lol,
[21:54] <erUSUL> Nematocyst: with a new kernel you need to build the driver yourself too
[21:54] <sethk> Nematocyst, yes, and you'll need to download the drivers from the nvidia site.  The install will use the new kernel information.
[21:54] <whta> jack_sparrow: i don't see any hint of what to do NOW. the comments recommend uninstalling whatever it installed.. though I don't know what font packages it added
[21:54] <ozzloy> beerfa1: when i toggle, it switches per app, i want entire desktop
[21:54] <erUSUL> !ati | marina
[21:54] <ubotu> marina: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:54] <Nilbus> erUSUL, is that wifi post up to date?  there's no /usr/lib/hotplug on this livecd
[21:54] <juano__> IndyGunFreak: lol
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> erUSUL: he's been told that, i think he wants spoonfed
[21:54] <beerfa1> ozzloy: by "entire desktop" do you for other users?
[21:54] <marina> can someone get into my pc
[21:54] <juano__> marina: well then, first of all you have to go to System ----> Administration ----> Restricted drivers
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[21:54] <marina> like remote assisrance
[21:55] <erUSUL> Nilbus: may be out of date dunno
[21:55] <juano__> marina: in there you should enable the restricted driver for your ati card
[21:55] <sethk> marina, depends on whether your ISP allows incoming connections.
[21:55] <juano__> marina: thats a first step
[21:55] <otherman> comicinker: i dont found anythink
[21:55] <marina> i did that
[21:55] <ozzloy> beerfa1: i mean for me, not other users
[21:55] <erUSUL> marina: for graphics drivers use System>Admin>Restricted Manager
[21:55] <IndyGunFreak> juano__: i think he tried that, which initiated the "thanks for nothing" comment.
[21:55] <NewUserr> rencore: what should i do then i tried to install that again with apt-get but doesnt work
[21:55] <juano__> TBotNik_u: what is the hostname set too ?
[21:55] <erUSUL> !sound > marina
[21:55] <beerfa1> ozzloy: prefs > keyboard is for the entire desktop, not a single app
[21:55] <marina> track plays but no sound
[21:56] <ozzloy> beerfa1: i want a keyboard shortcut for toggling
[21:56] <Viper550> 3MIN
[21:56] <IndyGunFreak> i thought this was a video driver issue marina
[21:56] <comicinker> otherman: just to make it sure: you deleted a file with a size of 2GB, but the space is not freed?
[21:56] <Viper550> ooops
[21:56] <Viper550> wrong tab
[21:56] <marina> and sound
[21:56] <juano__> TBotNik_u: plus, those entries are wrong if im not wrong i think the entry your need is :   127.0.0.1     name1    name2     name3
[21:56] <ozzloy> beerfa1: i switch between dvorak and qwertty
[21:56] <beerfa1> ozzloy: do you mean languages? add the language applet thingy to your panel
[21:56] <graymaster> is there a way to upgrade to ubuntustudio, i'm using ubuntu 7.10
[21:56] <graymaster> using a code or something
[21:57] <beerfa1> ozzloy: can't help with that. Maybe write a script and bind a key to it
[21:57] <juano__> TBotNik_u: all in the same line if you know what i mean, and im not sure if they need comas in between them, you can try both
[21:57] <otherman> comicinker: yes
[21:57] <TBotNik> juano__: Docroot list ==> Localhost="E:/Local Files" OK, localhost:90="E:/Local Files/HTML Files/New Home/Site" OK, U-local.com="E:/Zips & Downloads/Linux/Ubuntu" Bad, manuals.com="E:/Manuals" bad
[21:57] <blahblahx> is there a way to delete every file in every subfolder except ones with a certain title?
[21:57] <ozzloy> beerfa1: how do i bind a key to a script?
[21:57] <Nilbus> where does wireless/hotplug firmware go on Gusty?
[21:57] <whta> ok. my last question is how to have ubuntu associate the default font handler "monspace" with "dejavu sans monspace"
[21:57] <juano__> TBotNik_u: read my last message ^^
[21:57] <NewUserr> someone knows what i should do when i get this error message:gnome-cups-add doesnt answer , i cant add my printer
[21:57] <beerfa1> ozzloy: not sure. Google for it perhaps
[21:57] <marina> and what to do now
[21:57] <juano__> TBotNik_u: my last 2 messages i mean ^^
[21:57] <comicinker> otherman: on what filesystem was that file? ntfs? fat? ext2? do you know the origin path of that file?
[21:57] <TBotNik> juano__: You talking about the comment on editing the Window host file?
[21:57] <marina> im in restricted drivers
[21:57] <IndyGunFreak> marina: wel, i'd work on one problem at a time.
[21:58] <ozzloy> beerfa1: way ahead of you
[21:58] <juano__> TBotNik_u: yes
[21:58] <ozzloy> heh
[21:58] <IndyGunFreak> marina: whats your sound device?
[21:58] <Jack_Sparrow> NewUserr: that is a rather odd error.. have you used outsdie repos or any of those horrible scripts
[21:58] <marina> i dont know
[21:58] <IndyGunFreak> lol,
[21:58] <otherman> ext3... it was on my desktop
[21:58] <TBotNik> Let me look on Win machine but still must work on U-box and that file doesn't exist there.
[21:58] <ozzloy> beerfa1: thanks for the help
[21:58] <IndyGunFreak> well, if i didn't have to leave in a minute, i might stick around for this, but marina i would start by opening a terminal and lspci and identifying your sound device
[21:59] <NewUserr> outside repos yes but no scripts
[21:59] <}I{aI-I4er> hi people
[21:59] <juano__> TBotNik_u: in Ubuntu you have /etc/hosts
[21:59] <beerfa1> ozzloy: sorry, haven't needed to do that
[21:59] <NewUserr> Jack_Sparrow::outside repos yes but no scripts
[21:59] <Shadow147> I found the problem with compiling kegs
[21:59] <poeloq> hey
[21:59] <poeloq> does anybody know of a way to limit the upload speed in general?
[21:59] <}I{aI-I4er> who can me say how to delete printer's driver)
[21:59] <Jack_Sparrow> NewUserr: I would start by cleaning up you repo list..
[21:59] <x0k``> Would anyone be able to tell me which particular command will get me into runlevel 3
[21:59] <otherman> comicinker: ext3.. it was on my ubuntu desktop
[21:59] <x0k``> Init 3 appears to not work
[22:00] <Shadow147> it was the file XShm.h
[22:00] <juano__> marina: ok now what drivers are listed in restricted ?=
[22:00] <}I{aI-I4er> who can me say how to delete printer's driver)
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource
[22:00] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[22:00] <comicinker> what was the origin path of the file?
[22:00] <comicinker> what was the origin path of the file, otherman?
[22:00] <marina> ati and atheros
[22:00] <juano__> marina: ok, is the ati enabled ?
[22:01] <juano__> marina: enabled and in use ?
[22:01] <marina> its  enabled and not in use
[22:01] <Nilbus> does the wireless stuff work on x86_64?
[22:02] <juano__> marina: is that the only entry for the video card ?
[22:02] <graymaster> hi cappicard
[22:02] <juano__> marina: or is there another driver for that video card ?
[22:02] <cappicard> hi
[22:02] <marina> i dont know
[22:02] <marina> i use laptop
[22:02] <graymaster> cappicard: hows it going
[22:02] <john__> !news
[22:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <geck1> I have a few issues I'm working on, hopefully someone can help me...I just installed ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy). I'm new to linux/ubuntu, and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work
[22:03] <juano__> marina: ok, after enabling if you restart X it should be in use
[22:03] <cappicard> pretty good. had to buy a new router. my wrt54g konked out on me
[22:03] <juano__> marina: did you try restarting X ?
[22:03] <Flare183> geck:> are you using kde or gnome?
[22:03] <marina> how should i do that
[22:03] <graymaster> cappicard: i have bad memories with routers before
[22:03] <geck1> umm i just installed 7.10, I'm not sure
[22:03] <geck1> how can I tell Flare?
[22:04] <NewUserr> geckl:which soundcard u have?
[22:04] <juano__> marina: ctrl + alt + supr
[22:04] <otherman> comicinker: origin path? sorry i dont undertand
[22:04] <comicinker> did you checked the folder /root/.Trash and /home/yourname/.Trash?
[22:04] <ryty> what's the real difference between server and desktop version?
[22:04] <geck1> i believe its an old soundblaster live value
[22:04] <marina> u mean to restart the pc\
[22:04] <Flare183> geck1:>find the little speaker in the upper right hand corner and double-click it
[22:04] <juano__> marina: no i mean restart the Xserver
[22:04] <otherman> yes comicinker
[22:04] <geck1> kk
[22:04] <marina> aha
[22:04] <geck1> got the volume control up
[22:05] <NewUserr> geckl:also check the alsamixer if anything is put on mute
[22:05] <graymaster> hi onechard
[22:05] <Flare183> geck1:>try the sound now
[22:05] <marina> the log off window apeared
[22:05] <juano__> ryty: well the services that come with the server edition, probably more services like dhcp server, dns server, web server, etc
[22:06] <ryty> because, I'm building a server, but I need X for vmware tools
[22:06] <geck1> still not hearing anything
[22:06] <juano__> marina: a black screen should of appeared and then logon screen again , did this happen ?
[22:06] <heartsblood> does anybody know what the pcm codem lib is called?
[22:06] <marina> am i doing smth wrong
[22:06] <heartsblood> codec*
[22:06] <graymaster> !hi
[22:06] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:06] <juano__> marina: or just restart the pc, maybe its easier
[22:06] <graymaster> !thank you
[22:06] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[22:06] <graymaster> !i know
[22:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i know - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:06] <marina> no it didnt happened
[22:07] <graymaster> !your stupid bot
[22:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your stupid bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !botabuse
[22:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:07] <Flare183> !abusethebot
[22:07] <juano__> marina: ok, just restart your pc, go to the red button top right in desktop click it and then press reset
[22:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abusethebot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:07] <NewUserr> geckl:u have 2 soundcards i nean an onboard soundcard too?
[22:07] <comicinker> otherman: if the space is not freed, the file must still be somewhere. try following: in a terminal change to type
[22:07] <comicinker> cd /
[22:07] <comicinker> find -name *partOfTheFileName* (including stars)
[22:07] <otherman> comicinker: yes
[22:07] <Shadow147> I got Kegs to compile
[22:07] <geck1> yes i think there is NewUserr
[22:07] <Flare183> !botabuse | graymaster
[22:07] <ubotu> graymaster: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:07] <geck1> but I have the SB Live selected I believe
[22:07] <NewUserr> geckl:u have 2 soundcards ?
[22:08] <Shadow147> I just had a missing package I nedded
[22:08] <geck1> there is onboard and there is the soundcard
[22:08] <comicinker> otherman: I'm sorry, that sentence was mixed up. did you understand anyway?
[22:08] <naxa> hi. i have a problem.
[22:08] <naxa> I refreshed the system normal ubdate. everything s*cks.
[22:08] <naxa> usb pendrive wont mount i dont know why
[22:08] <naxa> i need it in 30 minutes
[22:08] <eNons3nse_> gordonjcp: so i just copied some different stuff that i put on there a couple weeks ago and it's working fine.  could it just be the stuff i put on the mp3 player last night was written to a bad spot on the HD?
[22:09] <naxa> so i'm very upset with ubuntu right now
[22:09] <tim__> anyone know how to deal with a "case" problem : "DSCN0105.JPG not renamed: dscn0105.jpg already exists"?
[22:09] <naxa> also my screen f*cked up
[22:09] <Shadow147> naxa I it sohuld auto mount
[22:09] <Flare183> naxa:> open up a termnial and type in pmount /dev/sda1
[22:09] <naxa> nvidia driver stopped recognizing itself
[22:09] <HateX> Hmmm. In gnome when i set a staic IP address on my wired network interface it doesn't seems to work. It says i have that ip address but yet i can't be pinged and don't have access to the web
[22:09] <HateX> i have even restarted networking to no avail
[22:09] <naxa> Shadow147, Flare183: it's just NOT automount. sda1 is my scsi hard drive. there is no sdb or sdc or whatever.
[22:09] <Flare183> HateX:> try sudo dhclient
[22:09] <otherman> comicinke: trash is empty
[22:10] <Flare183> Oh
[22:10] <abcent> naxa: what was you fiddling with before all this happened?
[22:10] <Flare183> !mount
[22:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:10] <otherman> comicinker: trash is empty
[22:10] <HateX> Flare183, thanx
[22:10] <Flare183> HateX:> np
[22:10] <comicinker> otherman: type following in a terminal:
[22:10] <comicinker> cd /
[22:11] <abcent> naxa: set it back to default
[22:11] <comicinker> find -name *partOfFileName*
[22:11] <tim__> naxa if you need it in 30 min then use the live cd and fix it after
[22:11] <naxa> abcent: i did nothing special. I booted up, firefox, pidgin, and i clicked the "update" on 82 updates available text. everything went smoothly. then i turned off. i restarted and everything dead.
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> naxa: update or upgrade did this...  have you ever changed your sources list?  used scripts, gone outside our repos to install things etc
[22:11] <juano__> brb
[22:11] <naxa> Jack_Sparrow: simple update, i was running 7.10 already.
[22:11] <comicinker> otherman: that will take a while. dont't forget the stars. and if you don't find It, I have no ideas anymore
[22:11] <HateX> Flare183, my dhcp works... it's when i specify a static ip, the interface never changed to the ip i specify
[22:11] <GuHHH> i've a doubt about linux running on vmware... how do i configure the services IP's on the vmware linux? 127.0.0.1? Will VMWARE translate the real interface address to the vmware's IP address?
[22:12] <abcent> naxa: oh my .... being a newbee my self, i should also take caution
[22:12] <seanw> Hey all.
[22:12] <seanw> Ultra newb question
[22:12] <Flare183> HateX:> ok then try ifconfig
[22:12] <seanw> I can't get MP3s to play - I thought when you try the system would try and find a codec...
[22:12] <seanw> It isn't doing.
[22:12] <seanw> ?
[22:12] <Flare183> !mp3
[22:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:12] <seanw> It is just freezing.
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> naxa: What about the rest of my question?
[22:12] <naxa> abcent: i was very pleased with ubuntu but now i'm totally gone mad. I even f*cked up my girlfriends mind too, poor she.
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[22:12] <Flare183> !mp3 | seanw
[22:12] <seanw> Flare183, ty will investigate
[22:12] <SirChris> my dear ubuntu users, can you help me??
[22:12] <ubotu> seanw: please see above
[22:12] <Jack_Sparrow> oops
[22:12] <otherman> comicinker: thanks :)
[22:12] <Shadow147> seanw get VCL player
[22:12] <Flare183> kk
[22:13] <comicinker> otherman: well, I have one more Idea: you can search for big files with gnome-search-tool
[22:13] <EdwardXP> g
[22:13] <SirChris> i am searching for a song for 5 hours on IRC now and noone talks ind the channels
[22:13] <Unknown> How do I control microphone options?
[22:13] <Shadow147> seanw get VLC player
[22:13] <ArthurArchnix> seanw ignore shawdow147
[22:13] <seanw> er
[22:13] <PriceChild> !offtopic | SirChris
[22:13] <abcent> naxa: before Ubuntu, what was you either using or had installed?
[22:13] <tim__> VLC is good
[22:13] <seanw> This is the problem with free software; )
[22:13] <ubotu> SirChris: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:13] <naxa> Jack_Sparrow: by default i didn't do anything. Fist i noticed nvidia driver doesn't work. i have Geforce2 MX 400. i used the old xorg.conf since this stupid idontknowwhattocallit owerwrite my default xorg.conf. but after that the driver was still only half usable.
[22:13] <HateX> Flare183, are you saying that after a specify my ip statically in the network gui app then i should run ifconfig to update the changes
[22:13] <tim__> !rename
[22:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rename - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:14] <SirChris> is there anyone who can help me and listen to that song and tell me the title plllzz: http://90chris.90.funpic.de/searching2.mp3
[22:14] <Shadow147> ArthurArchnix SHUT UP I AM JUST OFFERING HELP TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE
[22:14] <Unknown> How do I set microphone settings?
[22:14] <ArthurArchnix> seanw: VLC is a media player that does many things, plays videos, rips dvds, plays music, you name it. It is not necessary to install in order to play mp3.
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic | SirChris
[22:14] <Flare183> HateX:> yeah you can try
[22:14] <SirChris> for example with alsamiver
[22:14] <ubotu> SirChris: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:14] <naxa> abcent: i recently used slackware. it s*cks couse no apt-get is avaliable, but it's stable and funny to learn. ubuntu is better in my opinion but this things drive me crazy
[22:14] <crimsun> Unknown: use the mixer applet in the upper right corner of the top panel.
[22:14] <SirChris> alsamixer -V capture
[22:14] <marina> again nothing
[22:15] <TBotNik> juano__: Tried the thing in the hosts file and it set all the domains to the "E:/Local Files" directory.  Need something else
[22:15] <HateX> Flare183, what does ifconfig do exactly?
[22:15] <Shadow147> ArthurArchnix plus I can't Stand Totem
[22:15] <SirChris> try that for the microphone
[22:15] <ArthurArchnix> Shadow147:  That's fine. But your advice is not necessary to get mp3's playing.
[22:15] <Flare183> HateX:>see the man page
[22:15] <naxa> abcent: the problem is that some of the auto mechanisms s*ck maybe
[22:15] <Flare183> open a terminal and type in man ifconfig
[22:15] <naxa> live-cd was a good idea anyway
[22:15] <abcent> naxa: so totaly reformatted HDD, or upgraded?
[22:15] <HateX> Flare183, thanx
[22:15] <Unknown> crimsun: Is there any way to have the microphone work outside  a program, like in windows?
[22:15] <seanw> Okay thanks guys./
[22:15] <Flare183> just keep trying
[22:15] <HateX> Has this channle been taken over>
[22:15] <Flare183> no
[22:16] <tim__> VLC is the best media player for linux AND windows at the moment
[22:16] <crimsun> Unknown: certainly.  That's the default behaviour.
[22:16] <naxa> abcent: it was a fresh hdd in the past when i installed but it's already full of stuff at the time. 6 gb is still free anyway
[22:16] <PriceChild> !best | tim__
[22:16] <brobostigon> vlc is very usefull
[22:16] <ubotu> tim__: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[22:16] <Nematocyst> tim__, could be the JPG you are trying to rename is on a fat32 filesystem
[22:16] <marina> how can i totaly remove atheros HAL
[22:16] <Unknown> crimsun: Sir, it isn't doing for me.
[22:16] <HateX> where are all the ops? and there are much more bots in here than usual
[22:16] <Ayako> http://www.junosora.com/wp/tigerscrane/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/final%20fantasy%20cosplay.jpg
[22:16] <Ayako> ca c mignio mdr
[22:16] <PriceChild> HateX, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[22:16] <Shadow147> tim_ I use windows media player on my windows installation
[22:17] <brobostigon> one bot= ubotu
[22:17] <Ayako> oops dsl
[22:17] <crimsun> Unknown: is the 'Capture' element unmuted and maxed?
[22:17] <tim__> Nematocyst: yes it is, how do i rename it?
[22:17] <abcent> naxa: I'm curious only because I know things you've discribed can happen if install over an exsisting O/S
[22:17] <marina> how can i totaly remove atheros HAL
[22:17] <Unknown> crimsun: Is this within a program? If so, where do I find it?
[22:18] <Nematocyst> tim__, fat32 doesn't distinguish case.  you'll have to move it to a real (read linux) filesystem, or live with it.  you _may_ succeed by renaming something temporary then back
[22:18] <naxa> abcent: actually i don't know what happened...
[22:18] <dido^> hi
[22:18] <crimsun> Unknown: use the mixer (volume control) applet in the upper right corner of the top panel, aka the speaker icon.
[22:18] <marina> how can i totaly remove atheros HAL
[22:18] <HateX> well by 'bots' i mean irc zombies
[22:18] <Flare183> !rules | HateX
[22:18] <ubotu> HateX: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:19] <tim__> Nematocyst: thanks :)
[22:19] <marina> guys where r u again
[22:19] <Shadow147> Unknown what is your sound system a Analog or Digital
[22:19] <Nematocyst> tim__, np.  i forgot about your question until I saw you do !rename... sorry
[22:19] <sethk> In fact, even the 'bots are volunteers  :)
[22:19] <abcent> naxa: open a terminal type in: sudo synaptic
[22:19] <naxa> abcent: ok in full details. I was running 7.10, it worked. i made the update, restarted. i plug in an old hdd and copied some data. i recofnized that i had to set nvidia driver in low graphics mode after restarted which was very strange. i copied the data. i turned off and pull the extra hdd out. i restarted. it was low graphics mode again. i realized that something went wrong. i tryied my old xorg.conf. it worked but the screen was very unusual
[22:19] <naxa> .
[22:19] <sethk> marina, I'm not sure what you are trying to do
[22:20] <Unknown> crimsun: Thank you. That was it. It was muted. Again, thank you, Sir. ;)
[22:20] <sethk> marina, why would you need to remove it?
[22:20] <naxa> abcent: after that...
[22:20] <dim> hello, looking for a "beta" sources.list, anyone can send me?
[22:20] <tim__> Shadow147: do you also have to install a million codecs to play anything off the net?
[22:20] <Unknown> Shadow147: Not sure.
[22:20] <crimsun> Unknown: np.
[22:20] <kane77> sethk, I'm not sure ubotu wants to hang around here voluntarily ;)
[22:20] <marina> cuz its in use again
[22:20] <abcent> naxa: go through what you need installed
[22:20] <naxa> abcent: i tried to configure x but the display was on the left, not in the center, a little
[22:20] <sethk> marina, you can delete the kernel module, that will stop it from loading
[22:20] <juano__> TBotNik sorry i was away for 5 minutes, you said you tried it and it didnt work ?
[22:20] <Shadow147> tim_ VLC codecs are usually compiled in one package
[22:20] <marina> how to do that
[22:21] <Shadow147> if I remember correctly
[22:21] <tim__> :)
[22:21] <eNons3nse_> juano__: so i just copied some different stuff that i put on there a couple weeks ago and it's working fine.  could it just be the stuff i put on the mp3 player last night was written to a bad spot on the HD?
[22:21] <abcent> naxa: I did that on my son's pc ..... it unlocked so many items, which i couldn't do before
[22:21] <huppi> HI which tool is suited for repartitioning my hard drive without killing the data ?
[22:21] <naxa> abcent: i reinstalled nvidia-glx drivers, tried new, normal, legacy... none of them was recognized by the nvidia settings. 2 was accepted but there was no options. one wasn't recognized at all.
[22:21] <Flare183> !kde4
[22:21] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[22:21] <sethk> marina, it's in /lib/modules/......./          where ....... depends on your kernel version.  Paste the output of      uname -a        and I can tell you the exact directory name
[22:21] <Flare183> !mount | huppi
[22:21] <ubotu> huppi: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:21] <naxa> abcent: i don't really understand what are you telling me
[22:21] <brandon_> i need some help, i have world of warcraft installed with cross over pro, it runs great until i try to log onto a character it will either freeze my comp completly or give me the famous error 132 any suggestions?
[22:21] <abcent> naxa: did you try terminal: nvidia settings
[22:22] <juano__> eNons3nse_: ehh ... weird huh, probably corrupt data, happened to my cell phone once, you know what it is ? i think i know
[22:22] <Flare183> !brandon try it without the crossover office
[22:22] <brandon_> like with wine?
[22:22] <juano__> eNons3nse_: when you connect it to linux box, a new dir appears called .Trash-something
[22:22] <geck1> Still no luck on the sound card Flare183
[22:22] <eNons3nse_> yeah
[22:22] <Flare183> brandon try it without the crossover office
[22:22] <naxa> abcent: yes, it says that's it's not an nvidia driver. i tryed build from source with envy. it gave an error and halted when building...
[22:22] <juano__> eNons3nse_: if you delete files from linux in your HDD it goes to .Trash, it doesnt REMOVE from external hdd
[22:22] <Flare183> !alsa
[22:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:22] <geck1> I have the SBLive card selected in both the volume control and the sound preferences
[22:22] <marina> Linux sladjan-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:22] <brandon_> what do you mean flare?
[22:22] <abcent> naxa: after installing ubuntu on my sons pc .... he couldn't install crap, it was like he was locked out ..... so i performed sudo synaptic
[22:22] <Flare183> !alsa | geck1
[22:22] <ubotu> geck1: please see above
[22:22] <naxa> abcent: in xorg.conf it IS the nvidia driver actually
[22:23] <Flare183> brandon:> just try wine
[22:23] <geck1> wilco, thanks Flare183
[22:23] <TBotNik> juano__: I tried changing it up and all work now, but 3 & 4 are mirroring 1, not showing their own directories.
[22:23] <naxa> abcent: i don't have problems with installing
[22:23] <Flare183> !wine | brandon
[22:23] <ubotu> brandon: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:23] <Klej> someone here have premium account on rapidshare ???? pvt
[22:23] <Klej> someone here have premium account on rapidshare ???? pvt
[22:23] <brandon_> i have it runs but with black terrain patches and low fps
[22:23] <Flare183> geck1:> ok
[22:23] <eNons3nse_> juano__: often when i unmount my mp3 player it asks me if i want to empty it's trash.
[22:23] <juano__> eNons3nse_: sometimes that makes things a little messed up when accessing again, so be sure to remove that dir completely, its actually a safe dir just in case you want to recover lost files, i dont know depends on what you want more, safety or flexibility...
[22:24] <eNons3nse_> ok
[22:24] <Flare183> !lostandfound
[22:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lostandfound - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:24] <abcent> naxa: ok for your internet, i put my IP back to roaming after tinkering with static addresses
[22:24] <Shadow147> tim_ sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc
[22:24] <juano__> TBotNik heh, well were getting somewhere at least... lets see what needs to be fixed
[22:24] <syngin001> looking to implement a script while the system boots, where do i put this script?
[22:24] <tim__> yep :)
[22:25] <kelsin> syngin001: /etc/rc.local, you can call it from that file
[22:25] <juano__> TBotNik all mirror to E:/Local Files/ ?
[22:25] <eNons3nse_> also, is there a way to turn off rhythmboxes auto detection of mp3 players?  whenever it tries to load my player the program hangs and i have to force quit.
[22:25] <sethk> synacktion, /etc/rc.local is the usual place
[22:25] <Shadow147> tim_ make sure u have the universe repo accessable
[22:25] <syngin001> ok thanks
[22:25] <eNons3nse_> so whenever i have my mp3 player attatched i can't have rhythmbox open
[22:25] <juano__> eNons3nse_: yes, System ----> Preferences ----> Removable drive and media
[22:25] <TBotNik> juano__: but having to use the : on localhost cause the domain names don't work at all.
[22:25] <marina> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[22:25] <abcent> naxa: I don't think i'm the best person to fix ur problem in 20 minutes ....
[22:25] <naxa> abcent: actually there is only two problems right now what i know about, 1 nvidia 2 pendrive... my internet is working.
[22:26] <tim__> gtg have fun yall
[22:26] <juano__> eNons3nse_: multimedia --> then check portable media players action command on plug in
[22:26] <naxa> abcent: doesnt matter thank youfor your help
[22:26] <tim__> !bye bye bot
[22:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye bye bot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:26] <juano__> eNons3nse_: leave that blank if you want nothing to happen
[22:26] <ArthurArchnix> brandon_: With your crossover office comes 6 months of level 3 support. Although Gutsy doesn't fall under this coverage, feisty does, an email toward their support staff may yield some help.
[22:26] <Flare183> !botabuse | tim__
[22:26] <ubotu> tim__: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:26] <abcent> naxa: ok pendrive should auto
[22:26] <naranha_> can anybody suggest a good rss reader for ubuntu?
[22:26] <naxa> i try and restart withj a live cd.
[22:26]  * emgent heya
[22:26] <naxa> abcent: it doesn't work actually. it should. it doesnt.
[22:26] <sethk> marina, probably /lib/modules/linux-2.6.22-14-generic/ ...
[22:27] <juano__> TBotNik now the domain names dont work ?
[22:27] <naxa> abcent: i will use a live cd and see what can i do couse i need to work
[22:27] <NewUserr> !gnome-cups-add bot
[22:27] <juano__> TBotNik only localhost: ?
[22:27] <sethk> marina, under there, look for a file with the same name as the loaded module, with .ko at the end
[22:27] <abcent> naxa: good idea
[22:27] <eNons3nse_> juano__: i already have all that stuff turned off.  it doesn't open rhythmbox when i plug it in like it used to, but if rhythmbox is already open when i mount my player it still tries to index it and fails.  i just want rhythmbox to ignore my mp3 player.
[22:27] <otherman> comicinker: i found it!! is in /Recycled... but i can't delete...
[22:27] <syngin001> is there a place also to place a script when system is shutting down?
[22:28] <juano__> eNons3nse_: check in rhythmbox preferences
[22:28] <Unknown> Can any one help me with this error when i click install ubuntu to boot into the live cd - Failed to allocate memory resource?
[22:28] <sethk> syngin001, there is, but I don't recall the name off the top of my head.  Look in   man shutdown    I think it will tell you
[22:28] <comicinker> otherman: great! I didn't know files can end up there...
[22:28] <juano__> eNons3nse_: or just uninstall rhythmbox... its not that good anyway, try audacious or listen, those are good players
[22:28] <graymaster> hello, my system time does not work, and i what ever i do it will not change, any help??
[22:28] <sethk> otherman, try deleting with sudo
[22:28] <comicinker> otherman: to delete it, use the terminal with sudo rm filename
[22:28] <Flare183> !time
[22:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <kelsin> eNons3nse_: make sure to check the plugins section of rhythmbox too
[22:29] <Flare183> !date
[22:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <syngin001> ok, will take a look
[22:29] <Unknown> Can any one help me with this error when i click install ubuntu to boot into the live cd - Failed to allocate memory resource, any one know ?
[22:29] <otherman> ok
[22:29] <juano__> TBotNik eehh... if thats the case try adding localhost to the names line... 127.0.0.1   name1   name2   name3    localhost
[22:30] <Flare183> !fixinstall | Unknown
[22:30] <ubotu> Unknown: For a few common problems when installing, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall also make sure you have read !install
[22:30] <Led-Hed> Is it possible to boot from a network (Similar to PXE) from a File or Image stored on a NTFS Partition?
[22:30] <marina> this is hurd
[22:30] <marina> can someone hack in my pc
[22:30] <syngin001> if it's open...yes
[22:30] <eNons3nse_> i will if you ask nicely
[22:30] <eNons3nse_> :P
[22:31] <owain> noob questions round 2:
[22:31] <comicinker> otherman: everything fine?
[22:31] <owain> 1. where do I add a service to run on startup?
[22:31] <marina> how can i remove ubuntu
[22:31] <HateX> i just downloaded a login manager with extension tar.gz how do i install it?
[22:31] <Unknown> I did not find my answer on the guide cant somebody just walk me through the dang thing?
[22:31] <zimon> marina, overwrite it?
[22:32] <marina> ok
[22:32] <juano__> HateX: login window theme you mean
[22:32] <PriceChild> HateX, login manager? what are you trying to do?
[22:32] <zimon> or delete the partitions .. or whatever you want to do with your harddrive afterwards
[22:32] <marina> ok
[22:32] <owain> 2. if put "sudo" before a prog in a launcher, will it load that password window like from the system menu?
[22:32] <marina> ubuntu is hurd 4 me
[22:32] <HateX> yeah login window theme
[22:32] <PriceChild> !gksudo | owain
[22:32] <graymaster> right now it is 10:31 PM on my computer, yet where i live it is only 2:31, i just tried to use Time & date under Sytem > Admin > Time & date, i set it to my time zone, then it doesn't change after i accpet
[22:32] <ubotu> owain: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[22:32] <crdlb> owain: gksu
[22:32] <nalioth> owain: no, use gksudo
[22:33] <owain> thanks
[22:33] <juano__> HateX: System ---> Preferences ---> Login window manager
[22:33] <marina> i cant do anything
[22:33] <juano__> HateX: go to Local
[22:33] <marina> no voice no video no effects
[22:33] <juano__> HateX: then Add
[22:33] <HateX> juano__, ok
[22:33] <juano__> HateX: then select the .tar.gz from there
[22:33] <owain> totally loving ubuntu btw, finally beginning to close my linux blindspot
[22:33] <owain> crazy
[22:33] <Unknown> Failed to allocate memory resource, any one know what to do with this error?
[22:34] <otherman> the command to delete a directory?
[22:34] <owain> copy becomes cp, md becomes mkdir
[22:34] <owain> Everything's upside down ;p
[22:34] <Flare183> owain:> try rm
[22:34] <owain> rm -r is recursive
[22:34] <owain> but be careful :P
[22:34] <owain> (otherman)
[22:35] <rconan__> can anyone explain why the boot CD hangs during startup nearish where it says about the squashfs
[22:35] <Unknown> Failed to allocate memory resource, any one know what to do with this error? any one?
[22:35] <southafrikanse> hello. I have no sound. In alsamixer everything is unmuted
[22:35] <HateX> juano__, it said not a tar.gz or tar archive but it is, the filename is GDM-Dreaming-Alien.tar.gz
[22:35] <ryty> Unknown: what does vmstat say?
[22:35] <graymaster> i fixed my clock, if anyone was wondering
[22:35]  * owain reasks his startup service question... 
[22:35] <Unknown> whats vmstat?
[22:35] <owain> I realise it's probably very obvious
[22:35] <ryty> a command
[22:35] <graymaster> thanks for the help everyone
[22:35] <owain> but dammit, what's the autoexec.bat ;p
[22:35] <magnetron> rconan__: no. but if you provide some more info, we might help you solve the problem.
[22:36] <juano__> HateX: ..mmm, weird, where you download that from ?=
[22:36] <ryty> Unknown: run the command as root, paste it at pastebin.ca
[22:36] <otherman> free space! great
[22:36] <HateX> air.gnome.com
[22:36] <HateX> atr.gnome.com
[22:36] <ryty> or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[22:36] <HateX> art.gnome.com jeeze sorry
[22:36] <sethk> Unknown, virtual memory statistics,  vmstat
[22:36] <manduski> hey guys i'm having difficulty understanding the interface of "prepare partitions" on the new ubuntu install cd. I have four partitions...sda1 ext2 size 106mb, sda2 ntfs 63gb, sda3, swap 4mb, sda4 ext3 55mb....I just want to keep the windows (ntfs) partitions and have another one for the main installation and the other one for swap. But i can't seem to be able to combine sda1 with sda4 and scale swap partition down from 4gb to just
[22:36] <manduski>  1gb without telling me the rest is unusable
[22:36] <juano__> HateX: using the gnome-art manager ?
[22:36]  * Pelo wonders if HateX  qualifies as a spammer 
[22:37] <HateX> yes juano__
[22:37] <naxa> i came back. live cd won't work due to corrupt nvidia driver...
[22:37] <vlt> Hello. I have installed ubuntu 6.06 LTS with its default kernel 2.6.15-k7 on an AMD64/X2 machine. Now I try to boot with another mainboard but the same type of CPU. It bgins to boot, recognizes the CPU correctly but then panics with "IO-APIC + TIMER doesn't work". Using another boot hd with 7.10 installed works fine. Any idea how to get it working?
[22:37] <tomd123> i am looking for a program that would ssh into a computer, download a file from the internet and then copy it onto my computer
[22:37] <juano__> HateX: did you try installing it from there ? i believe there are 2 options, 1) only download  2) install
[22:37] <gordonjcp> eNons3nse_: no idea, it's possible I suppose
[22:37] <otherman> autocad 2007 works on windowsXP in virtualbox?
[22:37] <sethk> manduski, if you leave empty space between two partitions, then you get that "unusable" message.  Sometimes you get it because you use a part of a cylinder, and partitioning is done in full cylinders
[22:37] <rconan> magnetron: i'm trying to boot the xubuntu livecd but it hangs
[22:37] <sethk> manduski, usually it's an insignificant amount of space
[22:37] <Unknown> ryty im not in ubuntu it wont even go on live cd
[22:37] <Flare183> !livecd
[22:38] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[22:38] <naxa> i recently remembered that two other errors also added, computer freezes. yes. on linux. it simply freezing sometimes. mouse stops. no hardware error, it worked before the update.
[22:38] <HateX> well for login managers, the install button is grayed-out so i downloaded instead
[22:38] <Unknown> i query'd you
[22:38] <magnetron> manduski: you would have to put something else on the newly unallocated space to make use of it. try scaling up another partition
[22:38] <vlt> tomd123: ssh, wget, scp
[22:38] <naxa> i have a livecd, it wont work. it boots and then blank screen is coming
[22:38] <Pelo> manduski,  first you would have to unmount the partitions you need to resize, second : you can'T merge as far as I know you would have to delete one partiton and extend the next to use up the size,  these partitions would have to be contiguous with the deleted partition "after" the one you want to expand
[22:38] <Flare183> !alternativecd
[22:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alternativecd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:38] <sethk> manduski, you specify it as a number of sectors, but the granularity is really cylinders, leading to the confusion.
[22:39] <magnetron> !msgthebot > Flare183
[22:39] <Nematocyst> Unknown, here's a link to my best guess to your problem.  this soln is for feisty, but it may still help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6537
[22:39] <rencore_> http://needcoffee.deviantart.com/art/GAIA-ECO-Gtk-60867858
[22:39] <manduski> thnx guys
[22:39] <rencore_> how did he write in the terminal like that
[22:39] <Flare183> I messed
[22:39] <Flare183> up
[22:39] <Flare183> sorry about the enter
[22:39] <HateX> juano__, in the whole login manager category the install button is grayed out
[22:39] <Unknown> ryty check my query
[22:40] <juano__> HateX: mm interesting...
[22:40] <ryty> didn't see  it
[22:40] <HateX> juano__,  was i supposed to run the program as root
[22:40] <Unknown> there
[22:40] <Unknown> !register
[22:40] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[22:40] <juano__> HateX: that could be a possibility.. but it should of prompted for the password
[22:40] <Unknown> how do i register
[22:41] <ryty> Unknown: /msg nickserv register
[22:41] <juano__> HateX: im checkin to see if its grayed out here
[22:41] <HateX> juano__, no it didn't but i have sudoed for another reason within the last 15 minutes so art manager might have thought i was good to go
[22:41] <owain> If I run a programme as startup with Gnome does it run as root?
[22:42] <owain> (this is a service for my raid card)
[22:42] <PriceChild> owain, no
[22:42] <owain> my dreadful raid card
[22:42] <juano__> HateX: try gksudo gnome-art-manager or something like that
[22:42] <kelsin> owain: no, nothing  after you sign in with gdm is run as root
[22:42] <owain> ok
[22:42] <HateX> juano__, ok
[22:42] <owain> so persumably I have to add it to some super duper boot script then
[22:42] <kelsin> owain: /etc/rc.local is a good place
[22:43] <Pelo> later folks
[22:43] <juano__> HateX: also check if you have synaptic open or something that could eventually be using dpkg and close it
[22:43] <owain> kelsin thanks
[22:43] <owain> the problem with a newbie coming to linux is it all seems very chaotic
[22:43] <HateX> juano__, ok
[22:43] <juano__> HateX: greyed out here too...
[22:43] <flake> is there a mac-like or unique window manager which is easy to set up and use..  I've used gnome and kde so far, want to try others
[22:43] <naxa> ok so... everything went wrong... too bad. i hate this. why why why.
[22:43] <syngin> it takes a while
[22:43] <naxa> please help me i have some questions.
[22:43] <syngin> don't give up
[22:44] <brobostigon> flake: xfce, enlightenment
[22:44] <naxa> which is the best choice of video card for linux? 0-50 USD.
[22:44] <HateX> juano__, yup
[22:44] <naxa> (for ubuntu, especially)
[22:44] <Smiky> Ciao a tutti !
[22:44] <juano__> HateX: gksudo gnome-art   ... that could fix it
[22:45] <brobostigon> !wm | flake
[22:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <K4k> can someone please help me figure out why whenever I run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database" it won't let me do it? it tells me that I have the wrong username and password but I have verified (pretty sure) the login and mysql is running
[22:45] <brobostigon> !windowmanager | flake
[22:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowmanager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <naxa> can someone tell me which is a good choice of video card for ubuntu? i have 50 USD for this but it's no problem when it's cheaper or second hand.
[22:46] <K4k> naxa: Do you know what interface it needs to be?
[22:46] <HateX> juano__, one sec
[22:46] <owain> btw, is there any meaningful difference between sudo su -
[22:46] <brobostigon> pci / agp
[22:46] <owain> and sudo -i
[22:46] <juano__> HateX: k
[22:46] <wsv123457> how do I upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10
[22:46] <seanhodges> flake, try Avant in Gnome: http://wiki.awn-project.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[22:46] <seanhodges> its similar to the dock in OSX
[22:47] <kelsin> flake: what parts of the mac windows manager did you want to emulate?
[22:47] <HateX> juano__, hmmm still grayed out
[22:47] <juano__> !upgrade | wsv123457
[22:47] <ubotu> wsv123457: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:47] <naxa> K4k: i guess not becouse i don't understand what are you asking. I want an AGP card for an amd 2600+ xp computer... it should be 2,6 ghz. I want 3D and nice window effects. my monitor sucks but i will buy a new one in the future.
[22:47] <bp|> Evening. Quick question: how do I disable hibernation on my Toshiba laptop? It doesn't seem to work and the only way out after that is a hard shutdown.
[22:47] <HateX> juano__, it prompted me for a password and everything
[22:47] <naxa> K4k: 2,6 ghz is the cpu of course :)
[22:47] <juano__> HateX: yea... same here
[22:47] <K4k> brobostigon: I need to know which because I have a good suggestion but it's only PCI I think
[22:47] <brobostigon> flake: xfce is like cde
[22:47] <HateX> juano__,  but still nothing
[22:47] <wsv123457> thanks
[22:47] <K4k> er...pci-express
[22:47] <brobostigon> xfce has a mac like dock
[22:48] <juano__> HateX: gnome alien somethin ?
[22:48] <juano__> HateX: what was it called ?
[22:48] <K4k> naxa: If it's AGP, I think there are AGP Nvidia 6xxx series cards available
[22:48] <K4k> those will be perfect
[22:48] <flake> a different way to navigate I guess
[22:48] <HateX> juano__, GDM-Dreaming-Alien.tar.gz
[22:48] <brobostigon> flake try enlightenment and xfce.
[22:48] <flake> and organize the apps
[22:48] <K4k> flake try fluxbox or xfce
[22:49] <marina> people plz help me
[22:49] <brobostigon> they are very different to gnome and kde
[22:49] <K4k> xfce is more similar then others, but it's still different
[22:49] <K4k> marina: what's the issue
[22:49] <brobostigon> xfce is similer to cde
[22:49] <kelsin> flake: if you want to spend the time and fully custimize the way you work I would recommend FVWM as well, but you said before you wanted easy to use, so I wouldn't suggest it if editing the config file and setting it up counts as non-easy for you
[22:49] <naxa> K4k: will they be ok? I bought a geforce2 mx 400 second hand couse i thought it's nvidia. but it sucks. are the 6000 series ok?
[22:50] <urkud> Hi! May be, it's wrong place for this quesion (it isn't ubuntu-specific). What is the good software/site for social networking?
[22:50] <urkud> I want to be able to sinchronize my address book with data from this site.
[22:50] <seanhodges> brobostigon, flake, +1 on enlightenment, prob what you're looking for
[22:50] <southafrikanse> Does pastebin have a screenshot place where I can show my desktop to you guys?
[22:50] <marina> problems with visual effects and sound on my laptop
[22:50] <naxa> K4k: i mean the card is wonderful it's just the linux driver s-cks
[22:50] <kelsin> naxa: geforce2 is nvidia, just much older
[22:50] <naxa> kelsin: yes  i know. but i thought it's ok...
[22:50] <kelsin> naxa: were you running the "nv" open source driver or the nvidia propirtary driver?
[22:50] <kelsin> naxa: *I can't spell
[22:50] <naxa> kelsin: so newer geforce are the best cohice?
[22:50] <K4k> Naxa: they are only a few years old, they should be just fine. Make sure you install the nvidia binary driver as well. I also recommend Nvidia over ATI for driver reasons, nvidia drivers are far better under linux
[22:51] <naxa> kelsin: nvidia, couse nv simply wont work, it's freezing completely, i have to restart by unplugging the machine
[22:51] <NKD-> Hi all. Earlier I was having problems with my NAT, but I fixed it. However, now I cant get anything to run on startup. I've tried putting stuff in /etc/rc.local and in a custom script I chmod +x'd in /etc/init.d
[22:51] <marina> so what should i do
[22:51] <seanhodges> urkud, depends on where all your friends are ;) maybe Facebook?
[22:51] <naxa> K4K: so a geforce > 4 is ok?
[22:51] <EugeneB> Can I ask help with toshiba laptop? I know it's a slippery place but I'm trying to get suspend to work
[22:51] <kelsin> well if you're already running the nvidia driver you're still going to be running that driver with any newer nvidia card. So if you think the driver sucks I would working on solving that problem, the card won't matter
[22:51] <bp|> Any hint on how to disable/fix hibernation on my laptop?
[22:51] <juano__> HateX: i just tried downloading that one and it didn't work also same error as you
[22:52] <urkud> Fackebook doesn't allow me to export my contacts.
[22:52] <juano__> HateX: that is weird
[22:52] <K4k> naxa: I would recommend a geforce > then 5 actually if you plan on doing things like XGL
[22:52] <K4k> marina: please restate your issue
[22:52] <naxa> K4K ok i see
[22:52] <seanhodges> pb|, cant you just not select "Hibernate" when shuttong down?
[22:52] <naxa> K4k: so i should buy a 6xxx
[22:52] <seanhodges> *shutting
[22:52] <urkud> I want to sync all the data (phone numbers, e-mail, e.t.c.) between my computer and social network.
[22:52] <K4k> naxa: let me make sure they are in your price range, but I'm pretty sure that's what you want
[22:52] <HateX> juano__, yeah i downloaded another one and get added it successfully but the preview is the same default ubuntu
[22:53] <blix> anyone here in UK
[22:53] <urkud> I'm ready to write needed scripts if social network will not deny it.
[22:53] <seanhodges> urkud, one sec, theres something i found today that might help
[22:53] <naxa> K4k: i thought i have max. 50 or max max 60 usd for it, no more.
[22:53] <blix> I'm looking for a bit kit to host a Ubuntu/Unix server
[22:53] <naxa> K4k: but it could be also second hand no problem
[22:53] <K4k> Naxa: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130233
[22:53] <blix> anyone recommend any retailiers
[22:53] <HateX> juano__, im going to try it and logout, brb
[22:53] <bp|> Well, yeah, the "this crashes me" "then don't do this" option always works <.<
[22:53] <K4k> naxa: Evga has an excellent life time warranty as well
[22:53] <kazol> What is the DVD decryption package called? libcssdvd?
[22:53] <naxa> K4K: thanks, i'm actually a hungarian so i will use a local store :)
[22:54] <marina> i cant have visual effects when i go there and check normal or extra i recieve this Desktop effects could not be enabled
[22:54] <seanhodges> urkud, http://www.conduit-project.org/wiki - havent tried it but it sounds good if it works
[22:54] <PriceChild> kazol, libdvdcss2
[22:54] <brobostigon> libdvdcss
[22:54] <juano__> HateX: ok good luck
[22:54] <K4k> naxa: look for anything between a 5500 and 6600 as they should be in your price range and have good openGL support
[22:55] <naxa> K4k: thank you. so i was right about nvidia, i just picked the wrong way buy trying to buy a very cheap, old card.
[22:55] <naxa> K4k: i will try what you say, thank you for your help
[22:55] <marina> i cant have visual effects when i go there and check normal or extra i recieve this Desktop effects could not be enabled
[22:55] <K4k> marina: make sure that your xorg.conf has composite set to "1" and not "0" also, make sure you have xserver-xgl installed
[22:55] <urkud> seanhodges: it seems that it is an application that can run on my computer and syn data with several external storages.
[22:56] <crdlb> K4k: other way around
[22:56] <crdlb> K4k: you don't need composite to use Xgl
[22:56] <juano__> HateX: worked ?
[22:56] <naxa> K4k: could you tell me a good tft monitor and dvd writer as well? i thought about pioneer dvdwriter... i dont know anything about tft
[22:56] <K4k> crdlb: when I installed xgl, I then got the composit not enabled error, I thought you had to have it set to 1
[22:56] <HateX> juano__, yeah, thatone worked
[22:56] <crdlb> K4k: no, you just need to log out so that Xgl is actually used
[22:56] <naxa> k4k: actually it's easier if you tell me what not to by in monitors
[22:56] <HateX> juano__, the dreaming alien file must be damaged or something on the web host side
[22:56] <kelsin> naxa: I've had great luck with an LG external dvd writer, works on every system I've ever plugged it into
[22:57] <lockd> hmm does paint.net run in Linux?
[22:57] <juano__> HateX: yea i think that is the problem
[22:57] <crdlb> K4k: you only need composite enabled in Xorg to use AIGLX or nvidia's thing
[22:57] <ubuntuu> How do i save file after editing it with vim ?
[22:57] <HateX> juano__, thank you for your help
[22:57] <urkud> :w
[22:57] <juano__> HateX: anytime
[22:57] <urkud> ubuntuu: :w<Enter>
[22:57] <naxa> kelsin: it sound great... i thought buying an external usb rack and an ordinary dvd writer, it's not ok?
[22:57] <kelsin> ubuntuu: hit esc to make sure your in command mode, then :w or :wq to quit after
[22:57] <K4k> crdlb, then howcome with my ati card, using xgl and compiz it said that I needed to enable composite in xorg?
[22:57] <urkud> Yes, I've forgotten about Esc
[22:57] <seanhodges> urkud, yes. i've only used Facebook before. I really think it depends what your needs are
[22:57] <ubuntuu> ok ill try
[22:57] <crdlb> K4k: because you weren't using Xgl yet
[22:58] <EugeneB> Can I ask help with toshiba laptop? I know it's a slippery place but I'm trying to get suspend to work
[22:58] <flush> hrmm
[22:58] <kelsin> naxa: up to you and your budget and you're uses, I wanted an external one to bring to school and to use on multiple boxes
[22:58] <flush> on ubuntu 7.10
[22:58] <K4k> naxa: I'm not sure what a tft monitor is exactly, but as for your dvd drive, I usually just get whatever is least expensive, they are all pretty equal
[22:58] <_6StringKng_> any way to remove the HDD icon on my desktop?  I still want it in Place > hdb1 but not on the desktop
[22:58] <flush> i type "su" and it returns setgid: Operation not permitted
[22:58] <greenman> Hi.  I have a quick question.  Does the server install cd have the text installer?
[22:58] <flush> whats the problem ?
[22:58] <K4k> crdlb: but I restarted xserver
[22:58] <crdlb> K4k: you're mistaken
[22:58] <lockd> i only recall seeing tft on CRTs
[22:58] <naxa> K4k: tft is the new type monitor, which is plate
[22:58] <dfwlinuxguy> greenman..yes
[22:58] <kelsin> _6StringKng_: you can turn that off in the gnome system registry, I think the key is under apps/nautilus/desktop
[22:58] <crdlb> K4k: either you're not actually using Xgl, or you have the order wrong
[22:58] <lockd> oh, must have been another acronym
[22:58] <urkud> seanhodges: it seems that facebook deny connecting with automatic script (for sync facebook data with my own addressbook, for example)
[22:59] <K4k> crdlb, could be, I was just saying what I had to do to get mine to work, if there is another way, then I am not aware of it
[22:59] <K4k> naxa: are you referring to LCD monitors?
[22:59] <greenman> dfwlinuxguy: okay, I'll download that in case I need it.  Is there a torrent, sometimes that's faster
[22:59] <marina> how can i check all those issues
[22:59] <mEck0> Hi! I'm using Gnome in Ubuntu 7.10 and wonder if there is possile to change the default file manager from Nautilus to another, e.g. Thunar? Nautilus is so non-responsive
[22:59] <seanhodges> bp|, this might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-440225.html
[22:59] <crdlb> K4k: on the fglrx shipped in gutsy, your advice would actually make things *worse* :)
[22:59] <_6StringKng_> my laptop screen is TFT
[22:59] <K4k> crdlb: then maybe that is why it's been crashing a little bit
[22:59] <crdlb> composite + GLX wasn't supported until 8.40ish
[23:00] <dfwlinuxguy> greenman..yes torrent ..http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/
[23:00] <urkud> seanhodges: flickr allow XML-RPC connects but I can't fill my e-mail, phone number e.t.c.
[23:00] <K4k> marina: open up synaptic package manager and look for "xgl"
[23:00] <naxa> K4K: yes, actually... sorry i always confused about the difference between tft and lcd
[23:00] <K4k> and install the xgl xserver
[23:00] <K4k> naxa: do you know what size you want?
[23:00] <marina> ok
[23:01] <K4k> marina: also, ignore my comment about the composite in xorg.conf because apparently it's not correct, just try rebooting first to see if it works, if it does, then your good, otherwise come back
[23:01] <_6StringKng_> kelsin: how do I access the gnome system registry btw?
[23:01] <seanhodges> urkud, this is the big problem when integrating web2.0, so many different protocols and standards
[23:01] <naxa> k4K: 17"-21" but i have very limited money so 17" i guess
[23:01] <EugeneB> Can I ask help with toshiba laptop? I know it's a slippery place but I'm trying to get suspend to work
[23:01] <kelsin> _6StringKng_: in a term you can type "gconf-editor" I don't know where in the menus it is in ubuntu atm :-(
[23:01] <naxa> K4k: i'm just curious if there is a bad choice or not
[23:01] <TimeTraveller> does anyone know if GTK is included in ubuntu ... synaptic says it is but my theme engine says it is not when i am trying to compile it ..
[23:02] <K4k> naxa: I know that they have 20" widescreen LCD's for around $200USD
[23:02] <greenman> Okay, what would be better, Alternate install or server install.  My friend wants to try linux, but I couldn't get the desktop install to work.
[23:02] <_6StringKng_> kelsin: thanks :)
[23:02] <lockd> TimeTraveller: gtk is, not the dev packages
[23:02] <K4k> that's because I'm actually in the market for one of those myself
[23:02] <greenman> The video wouldn't display.
[23:02] <crdlb> TimeTraveller: almost all of the default ubuntu apps are written in GTK :)
[23:02] <urkud> seanhodges: I'll continue googling...
[23:02] <kelsin> TimeTraveller: you might not have the Gtk-dev libraries, did you search for this theme engine in synaptic to make sure it's not packaged already?
[23:02] <naxa> K4k: ok thank you... actually for a time i wont buy only new year, i go now thank you for the help
[23:02] <naxa> bye-bye
[23:02] <_6StringKng_> yay its gone
[23:03]  * brobostigon is watching back to the future
[23:03] <K4k> naxa: my pleasure, I actually have to head out as well
[23:03] <TimeTraveller> thanks ...i will try that =)
[23:03] <_6StringKng_> now I take it any volumes I mount wont be there as well, such as optical drives and usb drives?
[23:03] <EugeneB> Can I ask help with suspend on laptop?
[23:03] <kelsin> _6StringKng_: ahhh ubuntu turns off the "System Tools" menu, makes sense :)
[23:03] <n00b> boa noite
[23:03] <_6StringKng_> just confirming
[23:04] <_6StringKng_> hehe
[23:04] <crdlb> !away > k4k-away
[23:04] <urkud> EugeneB: I hope that you can ask anything...
[23:04] <Sintexxx> hey
[23:04] <kelsin> _6StringKng_: I think that's the "volumes" visisble options
[23:04] <greenman> Okay, what would be better, Alternate install or server install.  My friend wants to try linux, but I couldn't get the desktop install to work.
[23:04] <kelsin> _6StringKng_: also in nautilus / desktop
[23:04] <greenman> The video wouldn't display.
[23:04] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask | EugeneB
[23:04] <ubotu> EugeneB: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:04] <kelsin> greenman: alternate
[23:04] <ubuntuu> i didnt get it i cant save the file with vim
[23:04] <fredrik> Hi How do I get sound to my ipod video files?
[23:04] <marpstar> is anyone here experienced with setting up dual-monitors in ubuntu with nvidia cards?
[23:04] <greenman> kelsin: okay.  Thanks
[23:04] <kelsin> greenman: it has the text mode installer that will setup the desktop system, and you can debug from there
[23:05] <kelsin> greenman: just as easy as the live cd installer, just in text mode instead of graphical
[23:05] <greenman> cool, thanks
[23:05] <seanhodges> ubuntuu, is it read-only? (read the status at the bottom)
[23:05] <n00b> hi
[23:05] <ubuntuu> no its xorg.conf file
[23:05] <n00b> i m facing a problem of instalation of amsn, can u help me ?
[23:05] <greenman> kelsin: yeah, I had to do that on a friends pc that didn't have enough memory
[23:05] <aguitel> how i know the amount of memory ram?
[23:05] <EugeneB> Ok - after waking up WIFI is dead. kerm.log says: Dec  1 13:55:41 ubuntu-laptop kernel: [  343.260000] PCMCIA: socket dfb3b040: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power
[23:05] <ubuntuu> im as root with sudo vim
[23:05] <ubuntuu> on the other PC..
[23:05] <kelsin> ubuntuu: hit esc like three times, then hit ":" then hit "w" then enter
[23:06] <EugeneB> reloading all modules don't work
[23:06] <kelsin> (the ":" needs a shift, etc to actually type ":" and not ";")
[23:06] <gabriel__> aguitel: free
[23:06] <seanhodges> if you can write then <esc>:w<enter> should save it, check the status at the bottom. Then use :q<enter> to close
[23:06] <marina> k4k still not working
[23:06] <dfwlinuxguy> EugeneB.../etc/init.d/udev restart ???
[23:06] <kelsin> aguitel: the command "top" will also give you memory information and info on processes
[23:07] <aguitel> gabriel__: kelsin ,thanks
[23:07] <EugeneB> hmm... interesting idea - have to try
[23:07] <sladen> aguitel: why do I need to use /away ... I already have a script do that based on screen disconnect...
[23:07] <seanhodges> ubuntuu, :q<enter> will stop you quitting if it's not saved, otherwise you can be sure it did the job
[23:07] <adrenergic> hello peeps
[23:07] <adrenergic> i need help
[23:07] <_6StringKng_> yo
[23:07] <_6StringKng_> shoot
[23:07] <urkud> ubuntuu: run vimtutor, please.
[23:07] <ubuntuu> but i didnt get how i save it ?
[23:07] <adrenergic> i am on windows now... but i've installed ubuntu from DVD
[23:07] <fredrik> Hi How do I get sound to my ipod video/mp4 files? I have the stricted codec pack but it do not seem to help
[23:08] <Omnius> anyone know much about bridge-utils?? and how to add a gateway address to the br0?
[23:08] <urkud> ubuntuu: you could save it with :w
[23:08] <adrenergic> i burnt a DVD iso
[23:08] <_6StringKng_> try gtkpod
[23:08] <neztiti>  guys how i enable Video for Linux
[23:08] <kelsin> ubuntuu: omg... we just told you about 5 time. hit esc a bunch then hit ":" and "w" then enter and that saves
[23:08] <gabriel__> aguitel: install htop , htop show memory ram , Processor , swap
[23:08] <adrenergic> and the Ubuntu is installed... i've Dialup modem
[23:08] <ubuntuu> :  that means shift +; ?
[23:08] <adrenergic> but it doesn't work at all
[23:08] <kelsin> ubuntuu: yes
[23:08] <EugeneB> Before I'll try it another problem - after hitting "suspend" pc wakes-up by itself in couple seconds
[23:08] <ubuntuu> ok brb
[23:08] <seanhodges> ubuntuu, yes
[23:08] <adrenergic> how do i get it into work
[23:09] <neztiti>  guys how i enable Video for Linux on ubuntu
[23:09] <marina> video and audio problems on my laptop
[23:09] <adrenergic> :( it's Acorp 56k internal Data/Fax/Voice Modem
[23:09] <Viper550>  /r/ blackup p smila's ice rink
[23:09] <kelsin> ubuntuu: do yourself and favor and download and print this: http://tnerual.eriogerg.free.fr/vim.html (That is if you want to use vim, otherwise install nano and use that)
[23:09] <Viper550> ooops
[23:09] <adrenergic> with Coexant -RH56D-PCI chipset
[23:09] <adrenergic> Conexant sorry
[23:09] <marina> i c but dont hear and frames are not good
[23:09] <dfwlinuxguy> !restrictedformats
[23:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:09] <Mp5> hey, how to install nvidia driver ;\?
[23:10] <neztiti>  guys how i enable Video for Linux
[23:10] <dfwlinuxguy> !restrictedformats
[23:10] <Jetrii> Has anyone here successfully installed Ubuntu on the Playstation 3? I am trying to but I am not getting any video output from the PS3 after rebooting under "Other OS."
[23:10] <kelsin> Mp5: does the restricted driver manager not install it for you? or does that not work?
[23:10] <jacob> i'm having problems booting up exaile, can anybody help?
[23:10] <dfwlinuxguy> mkultrax rm ~/.exaile
[23:11] <kelsin> Mp5: if you have an nvidia card it should apear in the systray and ask you if you want to install the nvidia card, you can also get to it in the admin menu
[23:11] <crimsun> jacob: invoke it from a Terminal, and pastebin the errors you get.
[23:11] <dfwlinuxguy> mkultrax rm -rf ~/.exaile
[23:11] <seanhodges> that ubotu is sure full of himself. the know-it-all
[23:11] <jacob> crimsun: ok
[23:11] <EugeneB> Anyone knows why PC can wakes from suspend by itself?
[23:11] <mohd> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 7.10. How can I use Compiz with the default metacity themes?
[23:12] <Mp5> i test to install and when i restart and change resoliution and the rezoliution not standart ;\
[23:12] <neztiti>  guys how i enable Video for Linux
[23:12] <gmonnerat> Mp5: system , administration , gerenciador of drivers restricted
[23:12] <dfwlinuxguy> !restrictedformats
[23:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:12] <adrenergic> i need help :(... in GUI... Networking Panel i see no modem device detected or working or something... and i have it... why doesn't it get connected
[23:12] <jacob> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m3b8c0e73
[23:12] <southafrikanse> http://imagens.webtuga.com/viewer.php?id=994091Screenshot.png why does this happen?
[23:12] <mohd> At the moment whenever I turn on the desktop effects, my window borders turn all red
[23:12] <mEck0> is it possible to disable the "fade effect" when you minimize and maximize windows in gnome?
[23:12] <_6StringKng_> yeah
[23:12] <seanhodges> mohd, this isn't normal, is this a clean install?
[23:13] <_6StringKng_> System>Prefrences>Appearance>Visual Effects>None
[23:13] <mohd> Yep
[23:13] <wabiD> has anyone tried compiling xbmc and using it for ubuntu?
[23:13] <clueless86> hey, i'm tryin to compile cdemu-daemon, it says it can't find the package dbus-1
[23:13] <crimsun> jacob: pastebin `apt-cache policy python-gobject exaile`
[23:13] <crimsun> jacob: you're certainly not using native Ubuntu packages...
[23:13] <magnetron> !anyone | wabiD
[23:13] <ubotu> wabiD: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:13] <seanhodges> mohd, whats your graphics card manufacturer/model?
[23:13] <adrenergic> HELLO ppl..... i need to connect through a dialup modem.... and i don't no it's address i mean is it /dev/modem or /dev/tty0 or dev/tty1
[23:14] <adrenergic> how do i find it
[23:14] <jacob> crimsun: i'll just delete the remaining folders and make  a fresh new install
[23:14] <adrenergic> and how'll i connect it
[23:14] <mohd> Seanhodges, I have an nvidia GF 6100, and I have the restricted drivers running
[23:14] <Sturm> audacity keeps closing now that I am using 7.10
[23:14] <jacob> crimsun: let me just do what you told
[23:14] <dfwlinuxguy> adrenergic output of dmesg
[23:14] <jacob> me
[23:14] <wabiD> how can i remove anyone from that sentence
[23:14] <sethk> adrenergic, /dev/modem is a symbolic link
[23:14] <Sturm> can anyone help?
[23:14] <kelsin> Sturm: have you run it from a terminal to see if it outputs any error messages when it crashes?
[23:14] <wabiD> complied xbmc for ubuntu...
[23:14] <adrenergic> but sethk it doesn't work
[23:15] <wabiD> i think that makes a lot less sense
[23:15] <gmonnerat> Mp5: you are trying to use dual screen?
[23:15] <sethk> adrenergic, in general, /dev/TTY# is a modem and  /dev/tty# is a serial port, although both refer to the same physical device
[23:15] <Sturm> yes
[23:15] <EugeneB> PC wakes-up by itself after going to sleep in 1-2 seconds. Any ideas?
[23:15] <sethk> adrenergic, ok, do this and show us the result:     ls -l /dev/modem
[23:15] <sethk> adrenergic, that will tell you which device it is linked to
[23:15] <dfwlinuxguy> yeah, suspend sucks in Linux
[23:15] <mohd> should I uninstall/re-install compiz?
[23:15] <jacob> crimsun: i installed alien trying to install a newer version of gnome, could that be the cause of the problem
[23:15] <lontra> dfwlinuxguy: works fine here and it has for a while
[23:15] <EugeneB> so - no hope?
[23:15] <crimsun> jacob: ...yes.
[23:15] <kelsin> Sturm: well does it? If so you should pastebin the errors to show people
[23:16] <kelsin> !pastebin > Sturm
[23:16] <abcde_> I am unable to get Tracker to search my drive.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?
[23:16] <brobostigon> suspend on my ibook g3 wont even work in mac os x, never mind linux
[23:16] <jacob> crimsun: then wouldn't it affect other programs?
[23:16] <dfwlinuxguy> lontra...it really depends on how good a driver was written...most hardware manufacturers don't like releasing their specs
[23:16] <jacob> crimsun: i want to undo what i did and remove alien
[23:16] <Sturm> it says segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:17] <Sturm> where should I post that again?
[23:17] <sethk> EugeneB, if you are using APM, try ACPI, or v.v.
[23:17] <lontra> dfwlinuxguy: well its improved vastly over the years and it works for a lot of folks
[23:17] <EugeneB> I'm using ACPI
[23:17] <adrenergic> how will i connect with my dialup modem in GUI.... if it's username is 'abc' it's pass being 'xyz' it's phone # being '123' ... can anyone tell me the command
[23:17] <crimsun> jacob: by using alien for gnome, you possibly utterly skewed python-gobject, which is a dependency of exaile.  Not very smooth.
[23:17] <clueless86> how can i install dbus-1? apt-get install won't do it
[23:17] <EugeneB> with APM - nothing works - no sound, no PCMCIA
[23:17] <sethk> adrenergic, also, as someone suggested (sorry I don't remember who), the output of dmesg has important information.
[23:17] <jacob> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m1cc22a66
[23:18] <dfwlinuxguy> lontra...well that doesn't really help the people that still are having issues
[23:18] <crimsun> clueless86: libdbus-1-3 or libdbus-1-1?
[23:18] <sethk> adrenergic, paste the output of ls -l /dev/modem and the output of dmesg to the pastebin
[23:18] <Mp5> gmonnerat have a dual screen,but i want in màin screen will take resoliution 1024x768 and when put in the "Screen and Graphics" and .. can't ;\
[23:18] <sethk> EugeneB, that's bizarre.
[23:18] <lontra> dfwlinuxguy: well neither did your comment ;)
[23:18] <sethk> EugeneB, it should be a clue, but I don't know how to interpret it.
[23:18] <dfwlinuxguy> lontra..just telling the truth
[23:18] <vlt> Hello. I just booted my ubuntu 6.06 with a new mainbord (using noapic option). Now my NIC is not recognized (no appearence of "eth" in dmesg). Any idea?
[23:18] <whta> when I had beryl, if i moved my cursor to the top right corner, it laid out all the open windows on the screen for me to pick from. how can i get that in CF?
[23:18] <kelsin> Sturm: http://www.audacityteam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1400 you can try that suggestion
[23:18] <zetheroo> when I save something to my Desktop I can never see it
[23:19] <EugeneB> I also see BAT1 00000080 ... messages in ACPI log every 10-15 seconds (battery charging)
[23:19] <diemos> hi
[23:19] <kelsin> Sturm: but if it really is a segfault you probably want to check with the audacity people, going to be tough to debug that from this channel
[23:19] <crimsun> jacob: my recommendation is to reinstall Ubuntu if you've really used alien to install gnome.
[23:19] <dfwlinuxguy> lontra..not really slamming anyone except the people who manufacture the hardware and won't release drivers
[23:19] <crimsun> jacob: and please don't use external repositories for (newer) packages like exaile.
[23:19] <clueless86> crimsun: i think i need libdbus-1-1
[23:19] <zetheroo> anyone have an idea why this is?
[23:19] <Sturm> would using a different version help?
[23:19] <crimsun> jacob: we have a procedure for requesting that newer versions from the current development version be backported to the currently supported stable releases.
[23:20] <urkud> zetheroo: Is it present in ~/Desktop?
[23:20] <Lapper> I'm using a MacBook with a Core 2 Duo processor. I downloaded the "64bit AMD and Intel" iso. Should I have downloaded a different one?
[23:20] <crimsun> clueless86: think or /know/ ?
[23:20] <zetheroo> urkud: no ... not even there
[23:20] <diemos> So, I'm trying to install ubuntu, I boot the livecd, see the bootsplash, but then my graphics are not displayed properly once X tries to start up
[23:20] <kelsin> Sturm: different version of audacity then what is packaged for ubuntu? Probably not, did you try clearing out the config folder (or backing it up) like that forum post said?
[23:20] <Omnius> zetheroo: it happened to me, it was saving it in another desktop
[23:20] <kelsin> diemos: I would download the alternate cd and do the test mode install
[23:20] <Sturm> just read that now.will try it
[23:21] <zetheroo> Omnius: how does that happen?
[23:21] <kelsin> diemos: then if you stil lhave issues at least you have a installed system to debug / figure out
[23:21] <sethk> adrenergic, I'm not ignoring you.  It's been so many years since I used a modem, and I don't remember the commands.
[23:21] <diemos> kelsin: which cd?
[23:21] <sethk> dfwlinuxguy, as you said, they won't even release specs so other people can create a driver
[23:21] <k4k> sorry crdlb
[23:22] <kelsin> diemos: the alternate cd, on the ubuntu download page it's a check box at the bottom to download the alternate desktop cd
[23:22] <zetheroo> Omnius: do you know how to fix it?
[23:22] <sethk> dfwlinuxguy, there's often a reason for that.  M$ makes exclusivity agreements with manufacturers.  That's not always the reason, but it often is.
[23:22] <dfwlinuxguy> doesn't gnome-network-manager allow you to connect with a modem?
[23:22] <diemos> I'll check it out.
[23:22] <Extravert> hey does anyone know the command to dump a process?
[23:22] <diemos> thx
[23:22] <adrenergic> actually sethk.... i'm on windows now... and when i switch to ubuntu i won't be able to talk to you like this cuz i won't be connected
[23:22] <k4k> dfwlinuxguy, I believe it does as long as your user has the ability to use a modem
[23:22] <gmonnerat> Mp5: if you configure dual screen in screen and cards , the default configuration doesn't function
[23:22] <adrenergic> so i tried alot of times
[23:22] <kelsin> diemos: but that will let you install without graphical errors and then it might just work, or you can debug from there
[23:22] <Omnius> zetheroo: its saving it to /root/Desktop
[23:23] <clueless86> crimsun: i'm running gutsy gibbon, so libdbus-1-3 is already installed, but pkg-config complains that dbus-1 is missing
[23:23] <adrenergic> but nothing came worth of it... so that's why :) it's ok sethk
[23:23] <zetheroo> Omnius: how do I fix this?
[23:23] <dfwlinuxguy> lontra..I agree...and if you are fortunate enough to have purchased a laptop that works, then you must be thrilled and pissed off if you didn't
[23:23] <diemos> well, i get two errors gergarding uvcd or something of the sort
[23:23] <diemos> during boot
[23:23] <Mp5> gmonnerat,then how to fix this? ;\
[23:23] <kelsin> clueless86: is the libdbus-1-dev package installed?
[23:23] <diemos> trying to install on my laptop ><
[23:23] <sethk> adrenergic, you can capture the info to a file, write it onto a memory stick or something else external, then boot windows and show it to us.
[23:23] <kelsin> clueless86: also make sure what you're trying to isntall isn't packaged already
[23:23] <diemos> Vaios are useless :(
[23:23] <adrenergic> okey sethk one second question
[23:24] <gmonnerat> Mp5: you are using nvidia?
[23:24] <sethk> adrenergic, ok.
[23:24] <dfwlinuxguy> k4k..using gnome-network-manager to create a ppp connection has to be tons easier than trying to explain how to set it up using textfiles
[23:24] <zetheroo> Omnius: there is no folder /root/Desktop   ???
[23:24] <Omnius> zetheroo: i assume you are saving files from your browser, when saving  just navigate to /home/yourusername/Desktop and save there
[23:24] <clueless86> kelsin: thanks, that was it!
[23:24] <k4k> dfwlinuxguy, I agree, but I don't know how to do it with gnome-network-manager because I have never used a ppp connection
[23:24] <Viper550> dj? think you could play that "Snow (Hey Oh)" song?
[23:25] <k4k> I'm only assuming that the option would be there in gnome-network-manager if you are a user who can use them
[23:25] <Mp5> gmonnerat, nvidia geforce 4
[23:25] <adrenergic> sethk.... i burnt the DVD iso to DVD... and installed ubuntu from it.... but how'll i install all the rest of packages from it cuz when i try to install something it... it tries to get access to internet
[23:25] <sethk> dfwlinuxguy, absolutely.  setting up a ppp connection manually is a true PITA
[23:25] <zetheroo> Omnius: nothing doing
[23:25] <Omnius> yeah there is
[23:25] <iNSTINCT> i need help with ubuntu anyone got a sec
[23:25] <zetheroo> Omnius: its still not there
[23:25] <sethk> adrenergic, in principle you can download the package files in windows, and create your own repository.  You'll be doing a _lot_ of downloading, however.
[23:25] <gmonnerat> Mp5: good, installs nvidia-settings
[23:25] <dfwlinuxguy> sethk...yes I remember the days of pon and poff and ifconfig ppp0 up and editing the config files by hand
[23:26] <piksi> i accidentally removed the update notifications icon from the task bar and i cannot seem to find where to get it back even though the update-notifications daemon is starting on login - any obvious solution ?
[23:26] <k4k> dfwlinuxguy, actually, I just went over to my server and looked, it does allow you to setup a modem connection
[23:26] <Omnius> zetheroo: goto your file system
[23:26] <dfwlinuxguy> that's what I thought
[23:26] <kelsin> adrenergic: System -> Admin -> Software sources and make sure only the cd is checked then refresh and you should be goof
[23:26] <iNSTINCT> who knows alot about ubuntu display?
[23:26] <k4k> iNSTINCT, what do you need to know?
[23:26] <kelsin> iNSTINCT: better just to ask the question you have and see if people answer
[23:27] <iNSTINCT> im having problems when i use amsn and when i log in
[23:27] <adrenergic> tks friends... you're all very good people
[23:27] <adrenergic> :)
[23:27] <iNSTINCT> text is unbelieveably small
[23:27] <abcde_> !ask iNSTINCT
[23:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask instinct - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:27] <adrenergic> bye all LINUX rules
[23:27] <abcde_> is that the syntax?
[23:27] <mike3> iNSTINCT: So change the font size. :)
[23:27] <zetheroo> Omnius: ok... I tried another website and it worked..... but it seems that it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't
[23:27] <sethk> adrenergic, actually, I'm a rat, but I hide it well
[23:27] <iNSTINCT> !ask
[23:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:27] <gmonnerat> Mp5: next in the terminal, types nvidia-settings , go in "X server Display Configuration"
[23:27] <Sturm> where is libmp3lame.so on my computer?
[23:27] <adrenergic> lol sethk
[23:27] <mike3> Sturm: Probably in your libraries
[23:28] <dfwlinuxguy> sethk...i've seen you here b4 right?
[23:28] <urkud> Sturm: use locate.
[23:28] <iNSTINCT> i did it doesent effect it, already tried
[23:28] <mike3> Sturm: do a find / -name filename
[23:28] <Sturm> ?
[23:28] <kelsin> Sturm: "locate libmp3lame" might help
[23:28] <Sturm> in the terminal right?
[23:28] <wallsp> hello
[23:28] <Omnius> zetheroo: i always save my files to one location and then move them if needed
[23:28] <kelsin> Sturm: yes
[23:28] <abcde_> Sturm, type "locate libmp3lame" in the terminal
[23:28] <wallsp> I would like to use ubuntu,
[23:28] <mike3> iNSTINCT: possibly gdm is causing font issues.
[23:28] <urkud> Sturm: `locate filename` (yes)
[23:28] <wallsp> but I'am straignt. is ubuntu ok for me then?
[23:28] <iNSTINCT> gdm?
[23:28] <k4k> when I try to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database, it says that my password/username are incorrect for the database, how can I find out what it is so that I can finish setting up mythtv?
[23:28] <zetheroo> Omnius: yeah me too... this is the first time this has ever happened
[23:28] <Mp5> gmonnerat and next steps?; \
[23:29] <Sturm> thanks urkud:D
[23:29] <kelsin> k4k: what database are you using?
[23:29] <wallsp> straight even
[23:29] <Omnius> how do I give a bridge interface a gateway address?
[23:29] <mike3> iNSTINCT: Gnome's login manager. I know that KDM's login manager can effect font issues with X. I don't know if this problem relates at all to your problem though.
[23:29] <k4k> kelsin, mysql
[23:29] <mike3> Omnius: google my friend.
[23:29] <Omnius> i have mike3
[23:29] <iNSTINCT> how do i access ADM?
[23:29] <kelsin> k4k: if you're running it on the same computer try to login with mysql by typing "mysql -h localhost -u <user> -p" it will prompt you for a password and you can test
[23:29] <Contrarian> I have a machine that I can connect w/ Samba but when I ping the name resolution fails? Any suggestions on how to resolve IP?
[23:29] <Omnius> and read howtos for 2 hours
[23:29] <gmonnerat> Mp5: connects the other monitor, presses in Detect Display
[23:29] <kelsin> k4k: if you havn't setup the username and password you'll have to look at the mysql docs on how to do that , I don't know offhand
[23:29] <Omnius> my eyes are bleeding
[23:30] <kelsin> k4k: I'm 95% sure that by default the mysql root user has no password, but I'm not sure about that, have to find out
[23:30] <Omnius> got it to work alright but cant assign a gateway address and there is nothing in the hotows
[23:31] <sethk> Omnius, route add default gw ###.###.###.###
[23:31] <sethk> Omnius, ###.... being the ip address, of course
[23:31] <vlt> Hello. Seems as if my 6.06's kernel 2.6.15 doesn't support my NIC. Even when I `modprobe forcedeth` it just prints out a status line "... nForce nic driver ... v 0.54". Still no device available ... Any idea what to do?
[23:31] <k4k> I have tried, root with no pass, root with multiple different passwords I have put on this machine, my account with all possible passwords I use, and my mythtv user account with all passwords I have used
[23:31] <iNSTINCT> «mike3» KDM what is it?
[23:31] <Omnius> sethk: cheers, i'll give it a try
[23:32] <brobostigon> k desktop manager + kdm
[23:32] <kelsin> k4k: and you just installed the mysql package?
[23:32] <brobostigon> =
[23:32] <gmonnerat> Mp5: now configure the monitors and restart the X
[23:32] <netdefilr> I recently have been hving problems shutting down ubuntu. It seems everything shuts down but it goes tro a black screen with a cursor blinking but doesnt turn off the laptop. Any ideas?
[23:32] <k4k> kelsin: I installed mythbuntu and mythtv + all dependancies
[23:32] <k4k> which includes mysql and others I believe
[23:32] <kelsin> k4k: what message does the mysql program spit out when you try with root and just hit enter at the password prompt?
[23:33] <sethk> I like to hit the laptop with a hammer.  If it can't come up, then you don't care if it won't shut down.  :)
[23:33] <netdefilr> starts up fine
[23:33] <kelsin> k4k: try "mythtv" and "password" as the password (on the command line)
[23:33] <sethk> netdefilr, I know, I was attempting to be funny
[23:33] <sethk> netdefilr, have you checked the log files?
[23:33] <Tim__> hi, I just did a fresh ubuntu install because of some issues I had and now my wireless network isn't working, it asks for a wep passphrase but is use wpa, the live cd works fine, but not when I install ubuntu
[23:33] <iNSTINCT> thx
[23:33] <k4k> kelsin: access denied for root@localhost
[23:34] <Mp5> gmonnerat hm okay,but is this driver - nvidia-glx , what i will be must have ?;\
[23:34] <kelsin> k4k: it doesn't say "With password blank" or anything?
[23:34] <k4k> I also checked the /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt which has the mythtv database info in it, but it's not working there either
[23:34] <Squee> How do I go about checking if my computer recognizes that I have a scanner connected, in ubuntu Fiesty?
[23:34] <Sturm> audacity still closes
[23:34] <whta> when I had beryl, if i moved my cursor to the top right corner, it laid out all the open windows on the screen for me to pick from. how can i get that in CF?
[23:34] <k4k> kelsin:(Using Password: NO)
[23:34] <Codenut> When I installed SSH, I ended up with SSH 2. Putty does not support this. What client is the one most liked by the group?
[23:34] <Tim__> any tips?
[23:35] <Dr_willis> whta,  thats one of the plugins.. install the ccsm tool and check out all the plugins. I forget what one did that.
[23:35] <kelsin> k4k: k4k damn :-( Probably need to google around for the default mythuntu mysql password, cause clearly it's not setting up mysql like the ubuntu default :-(
[23:35] <pianist> good evening
[23:35] <jusu> good evening....
[23:35] <gmonnerat> Mp5: your nvidia are installed and in use?
[23:35] <operator011> Codenut: SSH2 is SSH1's replacement.There were some weaknesses in SHA1 that led the move SSH2
[23:35] <jusu> infidel!!
[23:35] <whta> Dr_willis: i just went through every plugin and somehow i have missed it.
[23:35] <kelsin> putty supports ssh2
[23:35] <abcde_> I am unable to get Tracker to search my drive.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?
[23:35] <jerbear> anyone in here familiar with python's easy_install and use album art files in their music collection?
[23:35] <kelsin> Codenut: putty works with ssh2 fine
[23:35] <operator011> Version 0.6.0 of Putty supports SSH2 by default.
[23:35] <Zaqio> Anyone know how to get Crative Live Vista IM web cam to work?
[23:35] <pianist> im having problem with video files and sounds, i use toshiba satelite and ati video card
[23:35] <Dr_willis> whta,  it may of been under expo, or somthing like that. It never worked well for me with 2 monitors. so i dont mess with it much
[23:36] <operator011> If you're going to use keys, the RSA key length must be > 256, otherwise use DSA
[23:36] <Codenut> I will check, thanks guys. You are always a lot of help.
[23:36] <kelsin> Codenut: at least the current version on their download page does :)
[23:36] <operator011> Codenut: Check the SSH protocol page on Wikipedia for more info.
[23:36] <pianist> how can i fix my problem
[23:37] <whta> Dr_willis: expo only does workspaces.. i guess i'll just have to keep searching
[23:37] <Tim__> does anybody know where networkmanager stores preferences?
[23:37] <kelsin> pianist: so far you've said you're having a problem with video and sound, can you be more specific about what you want to do and what's happening/ or whate errors your getting?
[23:37] <Kienur> i got a problem with suspend: after a restart, i get a black screen only, but with a mouse on it. after ctrl/alt/back and relog i get no wallpaper nor icons on the desktop, but the panels are there
[23:37] <Mp5> gmonnerat i test to install and in use,what i know.but the problem is the resoliution,why its hasn't been should ;\
[23:38] <brandon_> i'm trying to get the fglrx driver to work, but it doesn't for some reason
[23:38] <gmonnerat> Mp5: go in system > Administration > drivers restricted and check if the driver is in use
[23:38] <brandon_> i keep getting the bulletproof x startup screen, although fglrx is loaded
[23:38] <Omnius> sethk: your a bloody genius, thyanks heaps
[23:38] <Tim__> anybody?
[23:38] <Codenut> I just logged into my 7.04 machine just fine. tnx
[23:38] <abcde_> brandon_, What is your video card?  fglrx is only needed for x1***
[23:38] <operator011> Codenut - using SSH2?
[23:38] <abcde_> brandon_, and greater
[23:38] <btard> I am trying to install the newest drivers for my graphics card. I've been using the ones from the ATI site, but I do not believe they are the correct ones (non-ubuntu). where would I find the correct ones?
[23:38] <Omnius> i've been trying for months to do that
[23:38] <brandon_> abcde_: 2600xt
[23:38] <Codenut> Used Putty, don't know why I even had an issue ;-)
[23:39] <gmonnerat> Mp5: yes understand
[23:39] <Codenut> +
[23:39] <pianist> ok when i play a video file the picture is in frames like robot when its full screen but when its small its ok
[23:39] <Codenut> Does anyone here use synergy to use two monitors with Ubuntu?
[23:39] <Tim__> hello?
[23:39] <operator011> Codenut: Were you trying to use a keylength smaller than 256-bit?  There's a known problem with RSA keys less than 256 bits.
[23:39] <abcde_> brandon_, Yeah, you need it, I didn't want you to go to the trouble if you didn't need it.
[23:39] <tic^> Codenut, why use putty? SSH is built in..
[23:39] <btard> I am trying to install the newest drivers for my graphics card. I've been using the ones from the ATI site, but I do not believe they are the correct ones (non-ubuntu). where would I find the correct ones?
[23:39] <Codenut> I can be hacked?
[23:39] <abcde_> btard, What is your video card?  fglrx is only needed for x1***
[23:40] <btard> I have a 9200
[23:40] <juano__> Tim__  /etc/resolv.conf for names   /etc/networks  also
[23:40] <ton1> Synaptic Package Manager Preferences dialog is hanging the application
[23:40] <Mp5> gmonnerat i will be check now ;\
[23:40] <btard> abcde_: I have a 9200
[23:40] <operator011> Codenut: It's not really worth worrying about on a personal machine.
[23:40] <kelsin> Codenut: I use synergy, but just ask your question if you have a question about synergy
[23:40] <Tim__> juano__, do you have an idea why wireless works on the livecd but not when I install ubuntu?
[23:40] <brandon_> abcde_: rdm says it is enabled, but it hink i may have a problem getting it to control my monitor
[23:40] <abcde_> btard, Two things, one don't repeat that fast, people are unlikely to help if you ask that fast.  I wouldn't have, if I saw the second time you asked before I pressed enter.
[23:40] <yaaar> word
[23:40] <T1m0thy> Soup, /b/tard?
[23:40] <punkgy> does anybody know of a tool that will let me make an iso file out of a dvd that is in my dvd drive?
[23:41] <yaaar> does totem+gstreamer really not work with dvd's properly? e.g. with menus and such?
[23:41] <btard> Sorry. My fault.
[23:41] <Codenut> Ok I am assuming then that synergy works fine with ubuntu, thanks. I really want a streaming screen for chat.
[23:41] <abcde_> brandon_, I don't know how to install it, I was just making sure you wouldn't go to the trouble if you didn't have to.  I can't help there
[23:41] <juano__> Tim__ did you install the driver at the restricted drivers manager ?
[23:41] <mike3> Omnius: I'm sure you just set the default gateway under route. Then the bridge will use the gateway.
[23:41] <btard> t1m0thy: lolwut?
[23:41] <juano__> Tim__ check System ---> administration ----> restricted drivers
[23:41] <abcde_> Codenut, Are the two monitors on Ubuntu, or one Ubuntu and the other on another OS?
[23:41] <juano__> Tim__ see if your card is listed there
[23:42] <sparkymist> hello
[23:42] <Zaqio> Anyone know how to get Crative Live Vista IM web cam to work?
[23:42] <Codenut> I am trying to plan the system from the advise of the consensus of people. Kind of trying to learn hard lessons over and over.
[23:42] <abcde_> btard, With a 9200 you don't need fglrx.
[23:42] <sparkymist> how is everyone?
[23:42] <Kienur> i got a problem with suspend: after a restart, i get a black screen only, but with a mouse on it. after ctrl/alt/back and relog i get no wallpaper nor icons on the desktop, but the panels are there - using nvidia and feisty
[23:42] <Tim__> juano__, no the driver is installed by default, I can see the network in the network-manager list, when I click on it running the livecd it asks for my wpa key I enter it and it works, when I click on it on my installed Ubuntu it asks for a wep passphrase which is obviously wrong and it doesn't work
[23:43] <ton1> Synaptic Package Manager hangs when I try to make changes using the Preferences dialog window. is there any way to make these changes without using the GUI?
[23:43] <btard> abcde_, So it needs no additional drivers?
[23:43] <Codenut> not learn lessons, sorry
[23:43] <kelsin> ton1: what change did you want?
[23:43] <gmonnerat> Mp5: my friend have this same problem with gforce, but i don't know if he resolved
[23:43] <juano__> Tim__ it doesnt show wpa option when you click on your network showing on nm-applet  ?
[23:43] <ton1> kelsin: I'm trying to make changes in the Network to remove a Proxy setting
[23:43] <Codenut> Can I use the same computer with two monitors??? If so, what do I do?
[23:44] <Tim__> juano__, no, just wep and leap
[23:44] <Codenut> OS would be Ubuntu
[23:44] <ton1> kelsin: When I click apply, the application hangs
[23:44] <mibbit> Hi how do I diagnose iptables firewall issue, it all looks fine to me but connection is refused. How do I know why it was refused?
[23:44] <jacob> crimsun: can i boot to rescue cd and replace my system?
[23:44] <crimsun> jacob: yes.
[23:44] <kelsin> Codenut: if you have two monitor outs and a grpahics card that supports both yes. Synergy doesn't let you display things on the second monitor, just use the keyboard and mouse from one computer to control the other as well
[23:44] <rapid> Codenut: plug them in. configure twinview or xinerama
[23:44] <jacob> crimsun: without having to lose data
[23:44] <pianist> how can i take out atheros hardvare acces layer
[23:44] <crimsun> jacob: no.
[23:45] <juano__> Tim__ mmm.... check synaptic and search for wpasupplicant
[23:45] <tuxthepenguin533> #windows
[23:45] <juano__> Tim__ it should be installed , otherwise install it
[23:45] <jacob> crimsun: explain the "yes"
[23:45] <Mp5> gmonnerat oh,now i can't to boot ubuntu ;) download movie and i will goin to sleep ;) and tommorow will test your steps ;) ask your friend if yes -> how .. ;\
[23:45] <Tim__> juano__, it's a base Ubuntu install so its installed by default
[23:45] <geck1> Thanks everyone who helped earlier, I finally got my sound working =) I had to disable onboard sound from my bios.  next question, I want to change the theme of ubuntu, and i'm looking on gnome-look.org.  how do I know which ones I can use (gtk, compiz, beryl, gnome, kde) its all greek to me =P
[23:45] <brandon_> is there anybody here who does know about fglrx?
[23:45] <Mp5> and goodnight now all :)
[23:46] <juano__> Tim__ weird wpa doesnt show up as an option in the connect window prompt
[23:46] <jacob> crimsun: in other words, how can i do to restore my system in rescue mode
[23:46] <crimsun> jacob: it's obviated by my latter answer.
[23:46] <Codenut> Thanks for your time gang, it seems my system is not working right now.
[23:46] <Codenut> cheers,
[23:46] <juano__> Tim__ there is an automatic option i think
[23:46] <juano__> Tim__ is there ?
[23:47] <juano__> Tim__ also check to see in network settings if your card is in roaming mode
[23:47] <Tim__> juano__, no, network-manager automatically chooses what it thinks is the right one
[23:47] <Tom47> inga i see you made it ok
[23:47] <juano__> Tim__ it should be on roaming mode, you shoudn't need to set anything manually
[23:47] <Tim__> juano__, yes it is in roaming mode, otherwise the networks wouldn't even show up
[23:47] <juano__> Tim__ yep
[23:48] <gmonnerat> Mp5: yes, ok.
[23:48] <geck1> does anyone know how i can tell what themes I can use (compiz, beryl, gtk, metacity)....I'm looking on gnome-look.org, and theres a lot of different ones, but I assume I can only use one type?
[23:48] <Tim__> juano__, it has to be seomthing in my /home folder because that's the only point where the livecd and my installed version differ
[23:48] <geck1> I have ubuntu 7.10
[23:48] <Mp5> gmonnerat thanks and gnight ;)
[23:48] <kane77> what is the nicest jabber client? (I want to make my sister switch to jabber ;))
[23:48] <MattJ> kane77: I like Gajim best
[23:48] <kelsin> deprecatd: if you don't have the 3d visual effects on then metacity, if you do then the compiz ones. GTK themes theme the buttons and widget on your desktop, not the windows
[23:49] <kelsin> kane77: I like pidgin for everything
[23:49] <Dr_willis> geck1,  compiz has its own themes, its the same as beryl, it can also  set up and use the gtk themes..
[23:49] <Tom47> !install > inga
[23:49] <MattJ> kane77: But it's always a matter of preference :)
[23:49] <geck1> ok, I'm not exactly sure what all that means, i'll look them up and learn a bit =P
[23:49] <tekteen> anyone know how to make a remastered alt. install cd get some packages from a local apt-cacher server?
[23:49] <geck1> thanks
[23:49] <brobostigon> only prob with pidgin, no video, no voip.
[23:49] <ArthurArchnix> The default python program that comes with ubuntu is just run in the terminal, is there some other program that would be better suited? like a text editor with a python plugin
[23:50] <Zaqio> I have a big problem on pc, I just installed Linux on my other pc and it can't find the hard drive to boot linux
[23:50] <kelsin> geck1: compiz / beryl / metacity are all windows managers, so those themes theme your windows borders depending on which one you're using. GTK is the buttons and other widgets (scroll bars, checkboxes and stuff)
[23:50] <jrib> ArthurArchnix: better suited for what?
[23:50] <juano__> Tim__ have you checked the wireless docs ?
[23:50] <MattJ> kane77: Gajim is Jabber-only, but it supports more of Jabber than Pidgin does
[23:50] <kane77> MattJ, what more of jabber?
[23:50] <kelsin> ArthurArchnix: gedit can edit python files with syntax highlighting, and both vi and emacs (the good text editors) have suport for python and have X versions
[23:51] <MattJ> kane77: More of Jabber's functionality
[23:51] <Tim__> juano__, where are those?
[23:51] <juano__> !wpa | Tim__
[23:51] <ubotu> Tim__: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:51] <MattJ> kane77: Browsing services, and registering, not sure exactly what else
[23:52] <kane77> MattJ, hmm.. didn't know that.. but I guess I'm okay with pidgin.. and well sister prefers looks over anything else :)
[23:52] <Dr_willis> ArthurArchnix,  better suited for what?
[23:52] <Tim__> the real question still remains, why does it work perfectly on the livecd and not on a real install? where is the difference
[23:52] <ArthurArchnix> jrib: Saving files, navigating, cutting and pasting.
[23:52] <bolt> what's the easiest way of putting the bootable cd on a usb drive? i want to install to a computer that has no cd-rom or floppy or pxe-compatible network card
[23:53] <jrib> ArthurArchnix: use your favorite text editor
[23:53] <MattJ> kane77: See http://gajim.org/ for screenshots :)
[23:53] <Dr_willis> bolt,  check the Install factoid site. it has info on doing that.
[23:53] <Dr_willis> !install bolt
[23:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install bolt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <Dr_willis> !install | bolt
[23:53] <ubotu> bolt: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:53] <ArthurArchnix> A text editor like gedit is easier for me to do those things the terminal. I've found the python plugin in for gedit (thanks kelsin).
[23:53] <lufis> Would compiling the latest xorg break my gutsy system?
[23:54] <jrib> ArthurArchnix: you don't need any plugin though
[23:54] <kelsin> lufis: why do you want to do this?
[23:54] <lufis> kelsin: because the repo's version is messing up
[23:54] <juano__> Tim__ try this sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[23:54] <amp> i have a problem getting voice in yahoo ( Gyachi-E ) ...It says it needs theses files  tsd32.dll and  tssoft.acm
[23:54] <sethk> amp, those are windows files
[23:55] <kelsin> lufis: how so? If you don't have lots of experience compiling / install software on a linux system, then trying to do it with xorg is probably not a safe bet, esp if you don't know the full reason why you want to do it
[23:55] <sethk> amp, they should have a linux version.  At least I hope they do.
[23:55] <lufis> kelsin: i know what i'm doing, i'm just wondering if it would mess anything up
[23:55] <juano__> Tim__ then this sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[23:55] <Tim__> juano__,  well I'm currently in windows... but I know that this command wouldn't do anything except to tell me that it's already installed
[23:55] <kazol> What are some good games for Linux (besides America's Army)?
[23:55] <juano__> Tim__ well try reinstalling it then
[23:55] <juano__> Tim__ thats the idea
[23:55] <amp> I have a problem with the program “Gyach” to run in yahoo but now when I click to get sound/voice in the yahoo chat room I get this message saying
[23:55] <amp> “Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files: tsd32.dll and  tssoft.acm
[23:55] <kelsin> kazol: unreal 2004 and soon tournament 3
[23:55] <Q_Continuum> Wireless bug/issue: No way to force Ubuntu to rescan for available wireless networks via the GUI - I notice this issue 1) when I power-cycle the wireless router and 2) when I return from hibernate in a different location, without the network I was connected to when I first entered hibernation.
[23:56] <sethk> kelsin, lufis is quite correct.  I've been a programmer for 35 years, and I've built just about every package from scratch, and xorg took me three days.
[23:56] <lufis> sethk: so it's basically openoffice? :p
[23:56] <Tim__> ok I'll reboot and try that
[23:56] <tekteen> anyone know how to make a remastered alt. install cd get some (or all) packages from a local apt-cacher server?
[23:56] <Tim__> brb
[23:56] <juano__> Tim__ ok
[23:56] <kelsin> sethk: :) no where did I say you shouldn't do it, or that it will 100% break your system, but if you don't have a good reason for bypassing the packaging system, and don't know what you're doing then clearly you should not be compiling xorg from scratch, that's the only point I was trying to make
[23:57] <sethk> lufis, comparable
[23:57] <sam_> can somebody tell me why I'm getting this error:
[23:57] <sethk> kelsin, no argument here
[23:57] <sam_> woops
[23:57] <lufis> sethk: i am pretty sure it's not my monitor, because when going to a tty things are fine. The bottom of the screen flickers and there are other abnormalities
[23:58] <sethk> lufis, if there is a frame buffer enabled, disable it.
[23:58] <lufis> sethk: well i've been on the same hardware for a while... i'm using a custom kernel but it's just now starting to act up and i've been using that kernel for a while
[23:58] <lufis> sethk: so i dunno what's up
[23:58] <sethk> lufis, it used to work without this problem, and you've not reconfigured?
[23:59] <Ominous> how do you flush dns in ubuntu?
[23:59] <lufis> sethk: nope
[23:59] <kelsin> Ominous: unless you're running a dns server (bind etc) there is no dns caching by default
[23:59] <sethk> lufis, if it's not the monitor, then it's the graphics board
[23:59] <kelsin> Ominous: what issue are you experiencing?
[23:59] <lufis> sethk: graphics is onboard