[03:41] <ryanakca> could you say that Kubuntu is the only major distro to always provide the latest KDE version?
[03:43] <claydoh> I can't confirm that, but I would feel comfortable saying that
[03:45] <Hobbsee> suse?
[03:46] <claydoh> distrowatch has it at 3.5.7, tho I would assume they have 3.5.8
[03:46]  * claydoh looks
[03:47] <ScottK> ryanakca: If it's true, it's only coincidence.
[03:48] <ScottK> We just got lucky having a release right after 3.5.8 came out and being able to squeeze it in.
[03:49] <claydoh> but we always seem to have the latest kde rather quickly
[03:49] <claydoh> but are the releases we have 'offocoal'?
[03:49] <claydoh> err official
[03:49] <ScottK> Sure.  Because we work with KDE to package in parallel with the release.  We aren't the only distro that does that though.
[03:52] <claydoh> yeah, and 6 month releases probably helps line it up too
[03:53] <claydoh> suse looks to be using their Build Service thing for 3.5.8
[09:40] <jpatrick> moin
[10:57] <stdin> man pykde4 is going to take a while...
[11:05] <mhb> stdin: a while, yes.
[11:05] <mhb> stdin: are you going to package it?
[11:05] <mhb> stdin: that might be faster for me than compiling it myself
[11:06] <stdin> mhb: I'm going to package it yeah, but I need to make sure it actually compiles :p
[11:06] <stdin> right now I'll only work on hardy though
[11:07] <mhb> stdin: fine for me
[11:08] <jpatrick> stdin: when you're done, poke me, I'll revu and see if I can backport
[11:09] <stdin> it's been stuck compiling a 1.9MB cpp file for a good 15 mins :p
[11:09] <stdin> and only 8 more to go...
[11:14] <stdin> jpatrick: if you want a look you can dget http://stdin.me.uk/python-kde4/python-kde4_3.92.0~svn20071201-0.dsc  (I just ripped off the debian/rules from kde4 packages for now) think of it as a draft package :p
[11:15] <jpatrick> stdin: looks good, apart from the -0 -> -0ubuntu1
[11:16]  * jpatrick looks at the rest
[11:17] <stdin> well I put -0 because it's shorter :p just until I get it to build
[11:22] <jpatrick> stdin: Homepage: goes under Standards-Version now
[11:23] <stdin> hmm, I should know that, I remember reading about it...
[11:28] <_buz> jpatrick: saw my comment on the luks support yesterday?
[11:29] <jpatrick> _buz: nop
[11:29] <jpatrick> _buz: however I fixed the desktop files, so it should be working
[11:30] <_buz> fixed when?
[11:31] <jpatrick> Friday
[11:31] <_buz> well with that update i see encrypted devices but i'm told i cant mount them because they are encrypted
[11:33] <jpatrick> _buz: what does "kio_media_mounthelper -d /dev/sdxx" give?
[11:34] <_buz> launches a dialog asking for password
[11:34] <jpatrick> arg, I forgot my pass..
[11:35] <_buz> but doesnt seem to decrypt anything
[11:35] <_buz> oh wait, it infact does
[11:35] <jpatrick> :)
[11:35] <_buz> i get a node in /dev/mapper
[11:36] <jpatrick> hello, that's new for me
[11:36] <_buz> and if i mount that manually, i get the drive
[11:37] <jpatrick> how do you mount it? I need to specify the filesystem type
[11:38] <_buz> did you format the luks volume when you created it?
[11:38] <_buz> mine is ext3, i can mount that without telling it the fs type
[11:38] <jpatrick> nop..
[11:38] <_buz> well before you format the luks volume (after opening it) you cant mount it
[11:40] <jpatrick> knew I did something wrong
[11:40] <_buz> so it's cryptsetup luksOpen
[11:40] <_buz> then mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/somenode
[11:40] <_buz> after that you can mount /dev/mapper/somenode
[11:42] <jpatrick> ok, I got the drive
[11:45] <_buz> so what happens you replug it?
[11:47] <_buz> ok so kio_media_mounthelper can decrypt devices. so far so good (except for the fact that media:/ wont notice it)
[11:47] <jpatrick> yay! I got a Mount Decrypted Removable Media
[11:48] <jpatrick> and I can access it from media:/
[11:48] <jpatrick> but I had to "sudo mount /dev/mapper/pat-usb /media/usb"
[11:49] <_buz> yeah that works
[11:49] <_buz> do you get a decrypt dialog wehn you plug in the usb device?
[11:50] <jpatrick> only when you click on it I guess
[11:50] <_buz> i dont even get that
[11:50] <_buz> i only get it when i run kio_media_mounthelper -d
[11:50] <_buz> but after that it creates the device in /dev/mapper
[11:52] <jpatrick> hmm, where did I put those .desktop files..
[11:55] <jpatrick> _buz: well, it appears to be implemented, just need to play around a bit more with the .desktops..
[11:56] <_buz> /usr/share/./mimelnk/media/hdd_unmounted_encrypted.desktop
[11:57] <jpatrick> there's suppose to be one called: kio_mounthelper.destop (or something like that) that calls kio_media_mounthelper
[11:58] <jpatrick> aha! there it is /usr/share/services/media_decrypt.desktop
[12:38] <_buz> mhh
[12:38] <_buz> command line looks correct
[13:01] <_buz> incorrect mime type maybe? (there arent any actions show in media:/)
[13:28] <steveire> How do I make usr/bin/qmake point to qmake-qt4 instead of 3? I thought update-alternatives was what that was for...?
[13:29] <stdin> steveire: it is, worked here
[13:30] <steveire> stdin:  sudo update-alternatives qmake?
[13:30] <stdin> steveire: no, "sudo update-alternatives --config qmake"
[13:30] <steveire> stdin: Cool. Cheers
[13:50] <fdoving> are there minutes from the meeting somewhere?
[13:50] <fdoving> or some logs/brief overview of what was decided?
[13:51] <Hobbsee> you'd probably do better to read teh entire thing at !logs
[14:11] <Lure_> fdoving: you were assigned several action items ;-)
[14:12]  * Lure_ got old dell running finally, might work on brightness keys now
[14:16] <Tonio_> re
[14:54] <apachelogger__> Riddell: you know of any way to watch file kde-apps?
[15:26] <dthacker> Lure_ I: I have a fresh Gutsy install on a Compaq Armada M700.   Is that new enough to help you test brightness?
[15:29] <Lure_> dthacker: do you have brightness keys? do they work in gutsy? did they work before (feisty)?
[15:31] <dthacker> Lure_: I have a "sun" icon on the F10 key.   Never played with it.
[15:32] <dthacker> Lure_:  I'll check my hw docs for brightness keys and get back to you
[15:32] <Lure_> dthacker: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLaptopKeycodes has more info...
[15:34] <dthacker> Lure: FN->F10 activates control.  up down cursor controls brightness.  Works on this machine.
[15:35] <dthacker> Lure_: I have not had machine on to run updates in 2 weeks or so.
[15:39] <Lure_> dthacker: ok, so it is either done in HW (as my HP) or was not broken in gutsy
[15:41] <dthacker> Lure:  looks that way.  Should that work on the live CD?
[15:46] <Lure> dthacker: I suspect it is done in HW, therefore it should work anywhere
[15:47] <dthacker> Lure: OK, I have two more Dells I can test on later today.  One is running Gutsy, the other is running windows, and belongs to my employer, so I'll try testing the windows box with Live CD.
[15:57] <apachelogger__> Tonio_: can I archive karp2?
[15:57] <apachelogger__> *kpar2
[16:01] <Serega> hiya
[16:05] <mhb> hi Serega, who has left too fast to reply :o)
[16:08] <Tonio_> apachelogger__: are you okay with packaging this time ? then yes, you can
[16:08] <Tonio_> apachelogger__: here is the patch for disk manager
[16:09] <Tonio_> apachelogger__: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/2436
[16:09] <apachelogger__> Tonio_: thanks
[16:11] <Tonio_> apachelogger__: I'll work on the french translation a bit later
[16:11] <Tonio_> no emergency on that point
[17:59] <RxDx> please, how can i install KDE4 on my Ubuntu?
[18:00] <stdin> RxDx: see the #kubuntu topic
[18:00] <RxDx> ok, thanks
[20:20] <jjesse> nixternal: whats the weather like in o'hare/chicago right now?  the 1:45 flight from grr to ord hasn't left yet
[20:21] <nixternal> rainy
[20:21] <nixternal> flights are moving though
[20:21] <jjesse> not from grr
[20:21] <nixternal> my old man headed to cancun this morning
[20:21] <jjesse> did he take his girlfriend with him :)
[20:21] <nixternal> probably
[20:21] <nixternal> business meeting (ya right)
[20:21] <nixternal> haha
[20:21] <jjesse> just started boarding the 1:45 flight at 3:31
[20:22] <jjesse> 3:21
[20:22] <jjesse> now i wonder when the 3:30 flight that i'm will leave
[20:22] <nixternal> they may be backed up, but flights are coming and going, I can hear them
[20:22] <jjesse> nixternal: does your cell phone receive pictures?  got a great picture from the airport of a computer running xp :)
[20:25] <nixternal> ya
[20:25] <jjesse> its one of those screens that shows flight information and says "Updates are now available for your computer"
[20:25] <nixternal> I should have taken on last night...I was in the middle of the New York Giants and didn't even realise it
[20:25] <nixternal> hahahahahaha
[20:26] <apachelogger_> hm
[20:26] <apachelogger_> please update your airport
[20:28] <nixternal> hahaha, nice
[20:28] <jjesse> grin i thought it was funny
[20:28]  * apachelogger_ expects someone to upload that picture :P
[20:29]  * jjesse doesn't know how to get that off his phone
[20:30] <nixternal> either do I
[20:37] <apachelogger_> -.-
[20:37] <apachelogger_> bluetooh?
[20:37] <apachelogger_> +t
[20:49]  * ryanakca grumbles at OpenOffice.org Word Processor and KWord
[20:50] <apachelogger_> oh
[20:50] <jjesse> still waiting for my flight to bored
[20:51]  * apachelogger_ hates traveling
[20:51] <jjesse> me too
[20:51] <jjesse> and i do it every week
[20:51]  * jjesse hopes he makes his flight from chicago to boston
[20:56] <Tonio__> apachelogger_: are you done with the disk manager package ?
[20:56] <Tonio__> I can revu it if needed
[20:56] <apachelogger_> Tonio_: upstream needs to include a copying.lib
[20:56] <apachelogger_> also
[20:56] <apachelogger_> your patch doesn't work for some reason
[20:57] <apachelogger_> gotta investigate tomorrow though
[20:58] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: hu ?
[20:58] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: works for me
[20:58] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: tried to applied buildprep eventually ?
[20:58] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: does it apply at least ?
[20:58] <apachelogger_> yeah, it applies, but doesn't build
[20:58] <Tonio_> ftbfs ?
[20:59] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: try a make -f admin/Makefile.common
[20:59] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: or buildprep before starting the build
[20:59] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: may I test using your package ?
[20:59] <apachelogger_> ldiskmanagerdialogwidget.cpp complains about the removed items
[21:00] <Tonio_> hum...;
[21:00] <Tonio_> lemme check
[21:00] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: that's it, try autotools and it'll be okay
[21:01] <Tonio_> just do a fakeroot debian/rules buildprep before building the source package
[21:02] <apachelogger_> meh
[21:02] <apachelogger_> http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/diskman/
[21:02] <jjesse> dang it they just started to cancel flights out of boston
[21:03] <apachelogger_> meh
[21:03] <apachelogger_> doesn't apply anymore Oo
[21:04] <jjesse> meant just started canceling flights out of chicago
[21:04] <apachelogger_> Tonio_: will have a look into it tomorrow
[21:04] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: just testing a simply untar, patch, then configure, make, make install
[21:04] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: I'll try to get you a fixed package with working patch toonight
[21:04] <apachelogger_> fair enough ;-)
[21:04] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: simple compile works like a charm here
[21:04] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: the "rebuilt" is simlply for copying.lib right ?
[21:05] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: yep, no issue here..... investigating
[21:10] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: applied buildprep before building your package, seems to work here
[21:10] <Tonio_> just run buildprep and then pdebuild
[21:14] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: hum no build failed, indeed.... investigating
[21:17] <jjesse> awesome, flights not leaving until 6pm est
[21:31] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: that's strange, really, patch fails in the package, but works when building manually..... I don't understand
[21:37] <apachelogger_> me neither
[21:37] <apachelogger_> needs deep investigation I guess
[21:37] <apachelogger_> probably some issue with cdbs -.-
[21:45] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: I think I have the fix
[21:45] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: but still do not understand why it worked locally
[21:45] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: it should have work due to what's missing in fact ;)
[21:45] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: currently building
[21:52] <Tonio_> http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/2438
[21:52] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: working patch :)
[21:52] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: just installed the deb, seems to work
[21:53] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: still don't understand why that worked locally, but well...... fix is done, so ;)
[22:05] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: still working on the patch to make is nicer.... just a moment
[22:06] <apachelogger_> Tonio_: don't hurry ;-)
[22:09] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: :)
[22:09] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: building
[22:09] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: I'm also removing the bottom part with help and quit, useless
[22:09] <Tonio_> help is available within the menu and quit button just doesn't make sense
[22:11]  * apachelogger_ thinks Tonio_ loves to patch :P
[22:11] <apachelogger_> maybe we should just fork our own version
[22:14] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: I don't think so, just one patch for better UI doesn't mean forking :)
[22:15] <apachelogger_> ok :)
[22:33] <fdoving> Tonio_: hi, how's kdesudo doing?
[22:38] <Tonio_> fdoving: nothing for the moment, I'm starting to work on that on tuesday
[22:38] <fdoving> Tonio_: ok. was there decided anything about dolphin during the meeting?
[22:38] <Tonio_> keep it and try to fix issues
[22:38] <Tonio_> then rediscuss if still too many problems before the release
[22:39] <fdoving> ouch.. k.
[22:39] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/2440
[22:39] <Tonio_> fdoving: last fixed kdesudo version has lots of issues, with install_mp3 amarok script
[22:40] <Tonio_> fdoving: but I think we can manage to make it to work with standard kprocess as you suggested
[22:40] <fdoving> Tonio_: it has issues with all scripts i guess.
[22:40] <Tonio_> apachelogger_: final patch, just tested, everything's okay
[22:40] <fdoving> all/most
[22:40] <Tonio_> fdoving: maybe yes
[22:41] <Tonio_> fdoving: yep, certainly
[22:41] <Tonio_> fdoving: I'll give you feedback on tuesday
[22:41] <Tonio_> fdoving: I have to go atm :) seya !
[22:41] <fdoving> i'll see if i get some time to hack tomorrow.
[22:43] <apachelogger_> Tonio_: thx
[23:16] <Riddell> apachelogger_: I havn't really used watch files, but you can subscribe to updates in kde-apps
[23:17] <apachelogger_> yep, though I think it would be nice to watch file as well
[23:17] <apachelogger_> anyway, the best thing would be comment notification for uploads on revu :D