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naelrI have a toshiba with atheros and it works outta the box.. this one doesn't00:00
tekteenWaltzingAlong: I need the install cd to download and use it00:00
naelrbut your getting me away from my problem00:00
tekteenWaltzingAlong:I have to install on a massive amount of computers00:00
Hizzlewhats the best irc program for linux right now in windows I use mirc?00:01
naelrI have 3 kernels on this laptop00:01
tekteenI need a way to automate everything00:01
Dr_willisHizzle,  i use Xchat under windows and linux.00:01
WaltzingAlong!backup00:01
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning00:01
tekteenand ran out of room on the cd :-)00:01
WaltzingAlong!cloning | tekteen00:01
ubotutekteen: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate00:01
tekteenthanks00:01
tekteenI will look into it00:02
naelrversion 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working00:03
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HizzleDr_willis: which linux do you use?00:03
coreymon77naelr: give me a sec00:03
naelrmight I need to recomplie ndiswrapper00:03
naelrcoreymon77: i have been working with this thing for about 2 weeks now... ndiswrapper is only way to get this card working ..00:03
Dr_willisHizzle,  using Kubuntu 7.10 at the moment00:03
WaltzingAlong!ndiswrapper | naelr, could grab the latest00:03
ubotunaelr, could grab the latest: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:03
HizzleOh ok thats what I am about to install onto my laptop00:04
coreymonnaelr: take a look at this00:04
coreymonhttp://docs.google.com/View?docid=dtvgpkz_46fv8dwf00:04
naelrhere is the kernel I am running00:04
naelrhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers00:04
naelrreading corymon00:05
naelrcorymon I have it working...00:05
coreymon77huh?00:05
naelryou got me away from my question arguing about ndiswrapper and atheros00:05
naelrversion 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working00:06
coreymon77oh00:06
naelrmy 3 kernels00:06
coreymon77no clue then00:06
naelrmight I need to recomplie ndiswrapper for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers kernel00:06
coreymon77oh00:07
coreymon77dunno then00:07
WaltzingAlongnaelr: building ndiswrapper is not all that difficult00:07
naelrWaltzingAlong: I don't wanna rebuild it if it isn't even going to work...00:08
smookerdoes ubuntu 7.10 have integrated wine ?00:08
WaltzingAlongmake uninstall; make; make install, about it00:08
smookeror some other emu >00:08
smooker?00:08
WaltzingAlongsmooker: no00:08
WaltzingAlongthough you can install it of course00:08
naelrit was installed as a deb package... ...00:09
smookerdoes the popular games run fine ? :P00:09
naelrhere is an oder version of my card... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/AR5006EG?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%2900:09
naelr*older00:09
WaltzingAlongsmooker: WoW? sure00:09
smookeryeah :)00:10
smookercan i view NTFS file systems with Kubuntu ?00:17
WaltzingAlongsmooker: yes and write too00:18
mehrezhi00:19
WaltzingAlongmehrez: greetings00:20
Doctor_Nickhow do i check what packages I installed last?00:20
coreymon77yallo00:20
mehrezi want to kow if there's a solution to ugrade from kubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu 7 with the instalation CD of Kubuntu 700:20
coreymon77you dont need the cd00:21
WaltzingAlongmehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy00:22
smookerwhat was the cool program for Kubuntu with the cool visual efects ?00:23
WaltzingAlong!compiz | smooker00:24
ubotusmooker: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion00:24
smooker10x00:24
Doctor_Nickhow do i check what packages I installed last?00:26
WaltzingAlongDoctor_Nick: memory. or when that fails, the list you made of which packages you installed and when.00:26
WaltzingAlongotherwise, i do not know of a way00:27
gabriel_how do i do a release / renew of my ip adress?00:27
ardchoilleDoctor_Nick: If you used command line to install them, then open a terminal and do: history | grep install00:27
WaltzingAlonggabriel_: dhclient ethx00:28
Doctor_Nickbut I dont know what dependencies it might have installed00:28
gabriel_not just a renew, i need release as well i think, so i really get a different IP address00:29
ardchoilleDoctor_Nick: Did you use apt-get or aptitude ?00:29
Doctor_Nickapt-get00:29
ardchoilleDoctor_Nick: You might have a look in /var/log/apt00:30
Doctor_Nickthanks00:30
ardchoilleyw00:30
WaltzingAlonggabriel_: even so, the dhcp server likely gives the same as the lease has not yet expired00:30
smookerafter i install compiz00:31
smookerhow i can get to the configuration ?00:31
smookerand where is it located ?00:32
WaltzingAlongsmooker: kmenu/settings/advanced desktop effects settings00:32
Dr_willis!ccsm00:32
ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion00:32
mehrez<WaltzingAlong> mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy00:32
mehrezi can't understund well!00:32
ardchoillemehrez: are you wanting to upgrade?00:33
firecHow do I find out which release of *buntu a machine is running from the CLI?00:35
ardchoillefirec: lsb_release -a00:36
ardchoillefirec: or: lsb_release -a | grep Release00:36
firecThanks00:36
ardchoilleyw00:36
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gabriel_WaltzingAlong:  it gives me a different one in windows when i do release renew, usually.00:37
gabriel_WaltzingAlong: that's why i want those two operations in linux...00:38
WaltzingAlonggabriel_: ifconfig ethx down; ifconfig ethx up00:39
smookeromg compiz just rox00:39
smooker:D00:39
WaltzingAlonggabriel_: or sudo dhcpcd -k00:39
gabriel_WaltzingAlong: are you SURE that those two correspond to release / renew in windows?00:41
WaltzingAlongto release the address the command should return the the dhcp release to the dhcp server which bringing down and up the device will not do00:42
gabriel_for instance, ifconfig down, doesn't that only affect my machines status, and not the dhcp server? and same thing with up?00:42
gabriel_WaltzingAlong: well then. then ifconfig cannot do what i ask...00:42
WaltzingAlongmostly you should search the manuals00:43
WaltzingAlongand a quick search of the web thanks to google00:43
trillisI got pidgin!00:43
tyfonsudo ifdown ethX and sudo ifup ethX00:43
gabriel_yeah i'm searching as well00:43
WaltzingAlongthen you would come across the dhclient command which will issue the dhcp release when passed the -r00:43
coreymon77trillis: yay00:43
trillisI kinda did.00:43
trillisIt's an rpm file..00:43
coreymon77...00:44
coreymon77why not just go to www.getdeb.net00:44
coreymon77trillis: and get it as a deb00:44
* trillis feels stuped00:44
crimsun...because getdeb.net is /not/ a vetted repo.00:44
coreymon77okay then00:45
gabriel_WaltzingAlong: thanks00:45
coreymon77is it on apt for feisty00:45
crimsunit is a third-party repo, but to recommend it without at least appending a significant caveat is foolish.00:45
WaltzingAlonggabriel_: cheers00:45
trillisHow do I find it on that site?00:45
coreymon77crimsun: i meant go to the site and get the one file00:46
coreymon77crimsun: not add it as a repo00:46
trillisI tried the search funtion and got: Distro id not found00:46
crimsuncoreymon77: makes no difference.00:46
coreymon77crimsun: its on the main page00:46
coreymon77trillis: that was meant for you00:46
coreymon77crimsun: well then what do you suggest00:46
coreymon77alien?00:46
crimsun...no.00:47
crimsunwork on updating the current source package accordingly.00:47
coreymon77meh?00:47
gabriel_WaltzingAlong: "There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519120" it says...00:48
coreymon77crimsun: how do you suggest getting it for feisty?00:49
WaltzingAlongman dhclient           | gabriel_00:49
crimsuncoreymon77: what I said above, and then requesting a backport to feisty once 2.3.0 is vetted into hardy.00:50
gabriel_yeah already on it :)00:50
trillisI don't see it on the main page...00:50
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WaltzingAlonggabriel_: there is already the pid is not an error00:51
coreymon77crimsun: i doont get what you meant by above00:51
Tarinhow do enable nvidia drivers?00:52
Tarinand install00:52
crimsuncoreymon77: "update the hardy source package to 2.3.0 - by merging and updating the Ubuntuised source package - and once that source package is accepted into hardy, request a backport to feisty"00:52
coreymon77and how do i do that?00:52
ardchoille!nvidia | Tarin00:53
ubotuTarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:53
coreymon77crimsun: and what does trillis do in the mean time00:53
gabriel_WaltzingAlong: but how come  i didn't loose my internet connection then?00:54
crimsuncoreymon77: whatever s/he wants00:54
coreymon77crimsun: as in, not get pidgin?00:54
crimsuncoreymon77: I am recommending the vetted protocol as someone who has upload privileges.00:54
dwsdadhello00:54
trillisI can't find it...00:54
trillis:(00:54
khatahnhi, anyone happen to know if there is an ubuntu package of the latest Flash 9 release somewhere?00:55
FireCrotchHi, dwsdad00:55
dwsdadHi, Fire00:55
WaltzingAlong!flash | khatahn00:55
ubotukhatahn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash00:55
coreymon77crimsun: englishplease00:55
dwsdadanyone have time for a smb4k question(s)?00:55
crimsunkhatahn: we ship 9.0.48 in multiverse.00:55
khatahnWaltzingAlong: it's not the latest00:55
trillisGoogle found it for me <3...00:55
crimsun(or rather, we ship a script that grabs 9.0.48)00:55
khatahncrimsun: yeah, it's just that i'm looking for the new fullscreen feature which is not supported on that version00:56
crimsuncoreymon77: I have a responsibility to recommend "proper" procedure for getting newer versions of software.00:56
crimsunkhatahn: there is no newer stable version.00:56
FireCrotchcoreymon77: what crimsun is saying is that rather than using a .deb found on some third party site, an official version should be used00:56
coreymon77crimsun: im not talking about newer versions, im talking about getting it period00:56
crimsuncoreymon77: getting it /period/ is moot; Ubuntu ships it in the main component.00:57
coreymon77crimsun: apparently t\cant find it on apt00:57
FireCrotchcoreymon77: in fiesty it's called gaim00:57
Marfiwhenever i close amarok, it unmounts the drive that its playing music from. how do i stop it from doing this?00:58
khatahncrimsun: but there's a release candidate. i was just wondering if someone knows an unofficial ubuntu package somewhere00:58
coreymon77trillis: you hear that? for feisty its gaim not pidgin00:58
crimsunkhatahn: I don't know of one, but that certainly does not preclude its existence.00:58
ardchoilleI thought trillis was on Futsy00:58
ardchoille*Gutsy00:59
crimsunkhatahn: and I certainly don't recommend its usage, since it's broken IME.00:59
coreymon77trillis: im confused, which one are you on00:59
ardchoilletrillis: Open a terminal and do: lsb_release -a00:59
nosrednaekimMarfi: #amarok..01:00
khatahncrimsun: i didn't really like it either when i installed it manually, just thought i'd give it another go01:00
trillisSorry, brb.01:00
Marfity01:01
Marfifigured go here, since amarok is a KDE app. ;)01:01
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WaltzingAlongfigured come to #kubuntu because #amarok is a #kde app?01:01
WaltzingAlongMarfi: amarok, devices on the left side bar, configure, then the command for unmounting? or not01:03
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trillisWell, I have the Pidgin deb file... For some reason it opened its self in Kate, and now I can't save it... Something about how saving it in Binary form will leave it currupted.01:11
coreymon77trillis: dont use the deb01:12
trillis...01:12
coreymon77trillis: are you on feisty or gutsy01:12
trillisYou just said to use tit...01:12
trillisKubuntu...01:12
coreymon77trillis: feisty or gutsy01:12
trillisEr, I think its gutsy...01:13
FireCrotchtrillis: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a01:13
FireCrotchtrillis: that will tell you for sure01:14
coreymonwhich one is it?01:14
trillisubuntu01:15
trillisDapper?01:15
FireCrotchtrillis:  it says "Codename: Dapper" ?01:15
jobbeyou guys wouldn't know a repository that offers x.org 7.3 by any chance?01:16
trillisYes.01:16
coreymonwow, youre not even on edgy01:16
ardchoilletrillis: That's quite an old release, tho it's still supported.01:16
ardchoille!info gaim Dapper01:16
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB01:16
trillisI want Pidgin though...01:17
ardchoilletrillis: If you're planning to stick with Dapper and want to try pidgin, open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install gaim01:17
ardchoilletrillis: gaim changed names to pidgin01:18
coreymontrillis: pidgin is gaim and gaim is pidgin01:18
trillisYaay, it's working.01:18
coreymontrillis: they just changed their  name to pidgin because of legal issue01:18
coreymons01:18
ardchoilletrillis: You threw us when you said you were on Gutsy01:18
trillisAah, sorry.01:18
* trillis is a nub01:18
ardchoillenp01:18
ardchoilleI remember Dapper being quite a solid release01:19
Radi01pidgin/gaim is cool.01:19
trillisThanksa01:21
trillisTHanks*01:21
ardchoilletrillis: Enjoy01:22
ardchoilledthacker: What is the name that was decided on for the kubuntu news?01:24
ardchoilles/name/page/01:24
SelanitI'm having a weird problem with Firefox.  Sometimes, but not reliably, I'll click a link, and the page will /appear/ to load but not really.  That is, the URL in the address bar changes to the new address, the loading throbber runs for a while and then finishes, I get status updates - but the viewport still shows the previous page.01:25
SelanitI can make it display the page properly by resizing the window, but it's a serious pain in the butt.01:26
SelanitAnybody else have this problem?01:26
neur1is that the new firefox? (updated) because mine does that too01:26
ardchoilleSelanit: Never seen that problem. I have ff installed, do you have a url for that?01:27
Selanitardchoille: No, I don't have an URL.  It's not limited to any one site.  I've seen it happen with Google searches, my own web sites, my school web site, randomly.  There's no apparent pattern.01:28
neur1sometimes it load a blank page and says it's done01:28
SelanitMine's been doing it for at least three months01:28
Radi01did you clear your cache and error control?01:29
SelanitI've tried hard refreshes (CTRL + SHIFT + R ignores cache).  What do you mean by error control, tho?01:29
Radi01undet tools01:29
Radi01r01:29
SelanitEh?01:29
Radi01under tools01:30
SelanitOh, the error CONSOLE, not the error control01:30
Radi01ya01:30
SelanitI hadn't thought to check there, but I'm not seeing anything01:30
smookeranyone know some other cool program like compiz ?01:31
SelanitI knew I should have made a screenshot.  It's not doing it at the moment.  I wish I could figure out some way of reliably reproducing the problem.01:32
somekoolYO01:38
somekoolis there a way to rerun the keyboard selection application from the install once kubuntu is installed?01:39
Dr_willisits proberly setting the default in ...(let me check)01:39
smookerhow i termina application ?01:39
smookerterminate *01:39
Dr_willis /etc/console-setup/config -  has some keyboard settings in there.01:40
Dr_willissmooker,  depends.  use xkill in a terminal, then click on the app you want to kill - is one way01:40
smookerhaha its cool 10x :D01:43
smookerquite easy :D01:43
Radi01Ubuntu has an icon for that , dont know about kubuntu.01:46
draikI got an icon theme from kde-look.org. The icon images are 128x128. Even with the spcified 22, they have the spaces for 128x12801:47
smookerbtw Kubuntu is on 4GB dvd how Ubuntu is only on 1 CD ?01:48
smooker:O01:48
Dr_willissmooker,  look closer.. they both have cd and dvd versions01:48
Dr_willisand a live cd, and a alternative cd. version01:49
smookeris there way to download 5/4 cd's not dvd ?01:49
Dr_willistheres no need to download several cd's you wont gain much by using the dvd either.01:50
Dr_willisthe dvd may have some extra packages.. but i think mainly its a live cd + the alternative installercd.01:50
draikDr_willis: Sounds about right01:50
Dr_willisi dont think the dvd Installs any of the extra packages.01:50
Dr_willisand of course - it proberly wont have the updates.01:51
ubuntu_is_awesomthe mouse cursor in 7.10 amd64 is invisble... on nvidia 5200, any help?01:51
draikFor everyone here with DSL... What is the purpose to the filters the ISP gives you?01:53
draikThey don't seem to make a difference01:53
draikEither way, connection drops when a phone call enters01:53
Dr_willisare you using the nvidia driver at this time? or the nv driver?01:53
ubuntu_is_awesomwho is?01:54
ubuntu_is_awesombah, ubuntu is shit01:54
Radi01Then you may have the filters in the wrong place?01:54
Dr_willisand its 'short attention span theater' today on #kubuntu01:55
Dr_willis:)01:55
Radi01That looked like a setup.01:55
zibrah3eddraik : Filters are there to "filter" any high pitch noise that the modem might make during phone calls01:55
Radi01If its a barrel filter make sure its not backwards.01:56
draik_Stupid DSL connection just gave me 200 s lag.01:56
draik_So what is the purpose of a DSL filter if it doesn't make a change?01:56
draik_DSL connection dies when a call enters.01:57
draik_:(01:57
Radi01Go back and look and see if they are installed right.01:57
Radi01and not backwards01:57
Dr_willisor sideways01:57
Dr_willis:)01:57
Radi01lol01:57
zibrah3edDraik_: OPr installed on your modems line01:59
draik_We aren't using any at this time.01:59
draik_We took them off02:00
Radi01There is one that uses both phone and modem on same line.02:00
draik_DSL won't even give me 100KB/s downloads02:00
draik_I miss my $CABLE_ISP and the 300KB/s connections02:00
Radi01Somthing is draging the line/somewhere02:00
Radi01Who is the provider02:00
draik_Verizon02:01
draik_America's #1 blah blah blah02:01
Radi01lol02:01
draik_America's #1 piss off!02:01
draik_This makes me want to have High-Speed Dial-Up02:01
HizzleI was wondering I am about to install kubuntu on laptop and replace vista, now for all the hardware like vid card, webcam, etc do I gotta individually get drivers for each one so they work with linux or how does that work?02:02
draik_Hizzle: You should be ready to go with the install02:02
draik_What is your video card?02:02
Dr_willisHizzle,  rarely. The video card and network cards (wireless) are progerly the only things you may need todownload stuff for to get full ussage02:02
Dr_willisLinux blows windows away in this area. :)02:02
Radi01Just rte-check everything/im sure youll find somthing/plus/you might mant to reset your modem from the (back).02:03
draik_Radi01: I've done that so many times. I've given that crappy modem/router amnesia by now02:03
Radi01hahaha02:03
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Radi01what about old wire?02:03
draik_That's probably the cause. It forgot what it is and what to do.02:04
Hizzlealright I just want everything to work fine I am in the military and I am gone alot and the laptop is my way of chattin with my wife02:04
draik_Hizzle: You should be ready to go from the start. I don't believe you will have any issues with the install and usage.02:05
Radi01Hizzle: you will be glad you did.02:05
Hizzlealright thanks02:05
Hizzlethats what I keep hearing02:05
Radi01I sent bill gates packing 1 yr ago.02:06
draik_To top it off, Verizon told my mom that DSL was going to be faster than the cable internet we currently had.02:06
zibrah3edlol02:06
Hizzlehehehe thats funny02:06
SpeShi02:06
SpeSI'm trying to connect with a rt2561 pci card, and I can't by now :(02:06
draik_Radi01: 6/1/6 was the last time I had windows as my main OS02:07
Radi011.5 is ok..its what i have and i have 200 download connect.02:07
SpeSthe module rt61pci is loaded02:07
MinatakuRadi01: 3 years here02:07
SpeSbut I can't configure the card...02:07
SpeScan't connect :(02:07
Radi01embarq.02:07
smooker3 years ?02:07
smookero.o02:08
SpeSis it possible to use it with the system installed by default?02:08
zibrah3edSpeS: Never had luck with the open source drivers have you tried ndiswrapper02:08
Radi01draik: could be a card at the hub: i had that problem with buffering till i made them change it.02:08
SpeSno, only trying with the rt61pci it brings02:08
zibrah3ed!ndiswrapper02:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:09
CadaverPimpI need to tell people to stop calling my house for the next few years02:09
SpeSzibrah3ed, I think there are official drivers from ralink02:09
CadaverPimpI get such a stupid lag when people call02:09
SpeSapart from free software ones02:09
SpeSubotu, ok, thx02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ok, thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:09
zibrah3edSpeS: I have a similar card and have never got them working, dhcp gives an error02:09
SpeSerrrrr, a bot, ok... ^_^'02:10
Radi01ubotu smart02:10
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager02:10
Radi01oops02:10
heinkel_111!flac02:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:10
G-RegZhello all02:10
Minatakusmooker: I stopped using Windows 3 years ago02:10
MinatakuOver, actually02:10
smookeraww02:11
smookeru use kubuntu ?02:11
Radi01I cant stand windows now.02:11
heinkel_111which is recommended kubuntu program to rip audio cd to flac format now?02:11
heinkel_111kaudocreator?02:11
zibrah3edno will all us PClinuxos02:11
zibrah3edwe just like to talk02:11
SpeSzibrah3ed, so you got it right with ndiswrapper?02:11
zibrah3edSpes: Yeah02:11
Radi01Imagine all the money these software people made giving out garbage.02:12
SpeSI've never tryed that02:12
zibrah3edSpes: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper02:12
SpeSzibrah3ed, I've got no inet02:12
SpeS...02:12
smookerwow wait what soft ?02:12
zibrah3edSpes: Find windows driver and " sudo ndiswrapper -l  *.inf"02:12
Minatakusmooker: I started with SuSE02:12
smookerwhat you use now ?02:12
MinatakuThen transitioned to Gentoo where I've been since02:12
Radi01How did you like suse02:13
zibrah3edSpes: Ndiswrapper is included, but not installed by default on the livecd02:13
MinatakuIt was good back then02:13
smookerand now u use.. ?02:13
SpeSI'll try it then if I don't advance with this one... thanks02:13
Minatakusmooker: I told you Gentoo02:13
SpeSahm good02:13
Radi01I started with mandrake/got tired of reinstalling 1nce a week.02:13
smookeraw sry im not good in english :)02:14
Minatakulol02:14
smookerdont laught xD02:14
MinatakuI'm laughing because it's not an English issue02:14
Radi01chuckles then02:14
MinatakuYou just missed me saying it02:15
MinatakuPlus, I laugh all the time02:15
MinatakuSo don't take it personally :302:15
smookerno i didnt missed i just didnt understand it..02:15
smookerthe "since"..02:15
smookerbut now i know what it is :D02:15
MinatakuAh02:16
MinatakuSorry then02:16
smookerso is gentoo good :P for games :) ?02:16
ciperlonehello02:16
MinatakuHeh02:16
MinatakuIt's a fairly "hardcore" distro02:17
MinatakuYou do everything yourself02:17
smookerlol exactly for me xDD02:17
zibrah3edsmooker: Its more effort than its worth02:17
ciperlonedoes anyone here knows the differente between karamba and superkaramba?02:17
Radi01compileing everything02:17
Minatakuzibrah3ed: WRONG02:18
smookermy first try on linux was solaris xD (terrible setup) :P02:18
Dr_willisone has more features... both are sort of lacking. :)02:18
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Radi01Actually, I started on 3.1 in 96. I've come along way baby.02:18
zibrah3edMinataku: Right!! you could spend half a day compiling so OO starts .3 seconds faster02:18
MinatakuI also started with Windows 3.1 on MS-DOS 5.0002:19
MinatakuBut earlier02:19
MinatakuI started in 199102:19
Radi01I liked it..never crashed on me.02:19
Minatakuzibrah3ed: Kindly cease your attempts at trolling otherwise I will report you02:19
MinatakuAlso, the default for OO.o is a binary package02:19
MinatakuOne of the rare few02:19
Radi01Back when 1`2mhz was (fast).02:21
Radi011202:21
Radi01magine that02:21
ardchoillelol02:21
smookeris there linux for floppy which can run on laptop with  no hdd ?02:21
ardchoillesmooker: I think you'd evenhave trouble getting the kernel on a floppy02:22
smookeri tryed win 3.1 but doesnt boot02:22
MinatakuHeh02:22
MinatakuI had a 33MHz 38602:22
smookerMinataku02:23
zibrah3edsmooker: List of floppy dists http://users.sunet.com.au/~tsn/floppy_linux.html02:23
ardchoillesmooker: That lappy got a dc-rom drive?02:23
smookercan u help it is Toshiba sattelite T1850c02:23
ardchoille*cd02:23
smookerhave only floppy02:23
smookeri dont know if its 386 or other :(02:23
beefjerkyIs there an official fix to the non-free flash plugin causing firefox to hang issue?  Firefox freezes just about any time I interrupt any Flash content. Running Gutsy with Flash 902:24
apparleThe CDs shipped have KDE4 ??????????02:24
Radi01I think they only ship official releases.02:25
zibrah3edapparle: No I think just dolphin02:26
wordapparle: kde4 will be released later this month i think o.O02:26
ardchoilleapparle: kde4 is in the repos, not on the cd02:26
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smookerhow do i change my password here ?02:27
MinatakuHeh02:27
ardchoilleword: It's been delayed until January02:27
MinatakuI collect old computers02:27
MinatakuAs for one-floppy Linux distros... don't bother02:27
Radi01till jan?02:27
MinatakuStick DR-DOS 7.03 on it, smooker02:27
ardchoillesmooker: /msg nickserv set password new_pass_here02:27
MinatakuHm... Satellite T1850C02:27
MinatakuHow old is that02:27
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MinatakuThe oldest Toshiba I have is a T120002:27
Radi01Another boat anchor?02:28
MinatakuIntel i80C86 @ 9.54MHz02:28
ardchoilleDoor stop02:28
MinatakuRadi01 and archoille: Do not troll other users.02:28
Radi01wow 9.5 / to druel for.02:28
MinatakuI don't take such comments lightly02:28
ardchoilleMinataku: You do it to others, so I thought you'd be acceptable to that, sorry.02:28
MinatakuJust because it's old doesn't mean it's bad, and trying to anger me will cause you to be reported to channel operators02:28
smookerMinataku can we chat private ?02:29
Radi01shakes.02:29
bascule:)02:29
oobedoes anyone know why some streaming sites wont work with mplayer plugin and firefox using 64 bit02:30
HizzleKubuntu is a full OS right I dont need linux already installed do I?02:31
zibrah3edcorrect02:31
ardchoilleHizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu has it already02:31
Hizzleok I am new to this whole thing, trying to get my feet wet02:32
Radi01take your time.02:32
beefjerkyoobe: I've had similar problems. VLC works better, imho.  You could try the media player connectivity extension of firefox to use VLC instead02:32
ardchoilleHizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu = Linux distribution02:32
Radi01ya use the (mosilla vlc) plugin.02:32
Radi01mozilla02:32
beefjerkybut i'm still having problems with FF2 hanging on sites with Flash... no one else has this issue?02:34
zibrah3edme too02:34
Radi01Most dont use 64 bit.02:34
beefjerkyradi01: was that directed to me? if so, i use 32bit02:35
beefjerkyftr, opera does not seem to be affected by this (but my precious extensions!)02:36
Radi01no just most that have that use 64..in your case #ubuntu may help..it has allot of traffic and some one there might help02:36
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beefjerkyradi01: yea, i've seen a lot of people report this "bug" and a lot of "workarounds" but no one method had everyone on board, and i don't want to go about symlinking and deleting directories02:37
Radi01dont blame ya.02:37
pierrethhello, I think there are a package of supplementary applications for kde, what it's name?02:37
ardchoille!info kubuntu-extras02:37
ubotuPackage kubuntu-extras does not exist in gutsy02:37
ardchoilleWell, that wasn't it02:38
pierrethis it replace with something else?02:38
Radi01you mean kd4?02:38
ardchoilleIt's there, I just don't remember the package name02:38
beefjerkypierreth: what do you need that you can't get using Adept or compiling yourself?02:38
pierrethbeefjerky: it don't remember exactly, I was having more kde application with my older version of Kubuntu02:39
ardchoillepierreth: If you can name a few apps, someone could tell you what you need.02:39
beefjerkypierreth: have you looked into Add/Remove Programs?  There's tons of stuff you can add02:39
pierrethbeefjerky: yes, too much, this is where I need to find it02:40
alastorallo02:40
pierretha remember using a time tracking application02:40
beefjerkypierreth: Kalarm?02:40
pierrethan another application to take notes02:41
pierrethbeefjerky: may be02:41
beefjerkypierreth: knotes?02:41
ardchoille!karm02:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about karm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:41
pierrethbeefjerky: should I install separatly?02:41
LjL!info karm02:41
ubotukarm: KDE time tracker tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1320 kB02:41
pierrethbeefjerky: I already have knotes02:41
ardchoillepierreth: kdeutils ?02:42
pierrethardchoille: may be, I will look...02:42
ardchoillepierreth: apt-cache show kdeutils02:43
ardchoilleHave a look at the Depends02:43
pierrethardchoille: it was it!! :-)02:43
ardchoilleThought so :)02:44
beefjerkyardchoille solves yet another mystery :)02:44
pierrethI had a problem upgrading02:44
bazhanghaha02:44
pierrethI took my old user directory from version 7.0602:44
ardchoillepierreth: 7.06?02:45
pierrethwell the version before 7.10?02:45
ardchoille7.0402:45
pierrethOK :-)02:45
beefjerkyardchoille: i've seen others mention 7.06 before too... i wonder if there *was* something...02:46
ardchoille6.06 was only .06 because it had been delayed some weeks to polish it and make it an LTS02:46
DragnslcrProbably thinking of 6.0602:46
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pierrethEverything was OK but my shortcuts to start applications were not working?02:46
beefjerkymakes sense.02:46
holzmodemhi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps (kubuntu)02:46
pierreththese are not in the user directory?02:47
ardchoillepierreth: You mean your $HOME dir?02:47
beefjerkyholzmodem: alt+f2 > appearance and themes02:47
pierrethardchoille: yes02:47
ardchoillebeefjerky: iirc, font *color* isn't in the settings02:47
pierrethI running 7.10 with my old 7.04 directory02:47
beefjerkyardchoille: youre probably right, and i forgot "kcontrol" in there anyway02:48
ardchoilleHe'd have to write it into ~/.gtkrc-2 I think02:48
pierrethis the file format for keyboard shortcuts has change in version 7.10?02:49
ardchoillepierreth: And which shortcuts are you speaking of? Desktop shortcuts? kmenu items?02:49
beefjerkyardchoille: even if he uses the KDE style in gtk?02:49
ardchoillebeefjerky: Not sure about that one02:49
holzmodembeefjerky: i using kde, the fontcolor in kcontrol is set to lightgrey, but the font in gtk apps is still  black02:49
pierrethardchoille: my personal keyboard shortcuts that I had in the K menu02:49
pierrethardchoille: There were all gone once in 7.1002:50
beefjerkyholzmdoem: have you tried making gtk use KDE styles (it's in kcontrol>appearance and themes)  If that doesn't work, you'll probably have to tweak the settings manually :(02:50
ardchoillepierreth: Did you copy over the ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename> file too?02:50
ardchoillepierreth: Also, if you didn't explicitly save those kb shorcuts to a file, they may be gone. I had to tangle with that too.02:51
pierrethardchoille: What I did is that I hype out my user directory and I replaced it with the one that I had in 7.0402:51
ardchoillepierreth: That happened with me and I found the problem was that I didn't save the shortcuts02:52
pierrethardchoille: What do you mean, not saved? There are not in the user directory?02:53
ardchoillepierreth: kde uses them, but to save them to disk yu need to save them to a file. they are saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename>02:53
ardchoilleAt least that is what I was told02:54
pierrethardchoille: Aren't they saved each I save the K menu with the editor?02:54
pierretheach time, I mean02:55
ardchoillepierreth: Nope, kmenu otems and keyboard shortcuts are two different things.. unless you mean your kmenu item shortcuts.02:55
pierrethardchoille: yes, I mean kmenu item shortcuts02:56
ardchoilleThose should have been saved in ~/.config/menus/ somewhere02:56
ardchoillepierreth: You can always open kmenuedit and re-enter them02:56
pierrethardchoille: yes, I did that. I just wanted to understand why02:57
apparlegenii: are you there02:57
pierrethardchoille: Otherwise, everything was the way I left02:57
pierrethI did just that when I moved my kde suff from the mac ppc to an intel pc02:58
ardchoillepierreth: You can save some time/hassle by putting $HOME on its own partiton next time you install. This will keep your user dir just the way you left it02:58
somekooli installed ubuntu, then installed the kubuntu-desktop and I lost the french-canadian keyboard. I tried every options in kcontrol. is it possible to re-run the tool that kubuntu uses at install time ?02:58
pierrethardchoille: what should I use to format and partition the disk?02:59
pierrethI was very happy to see my desktop the way I left it even if it was a complety different machine03:00
ardchoillepierreth: That can be done in the kubuntu installer or you can use gparted/qtparted for that, but don't worry about it until you next install03:00
pierreththis is very nice03:00
ardchoillesomekool: Have you tried the Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout tools in kcontrol?03:01
pierrethardchoille: could I use to make an easy install of BSD?03:01
ardchoillepierreth: I know nothing about BSD, sorry03:01
pierrethardchoille: could I partition without formatting?03:02
ardchoillepierreth: Making a partition without formatting that partition with a file system is useless03:02
ardchoilleYou need an fs on the part03:02
pierrethardchoille: I mean without formatting the whole disk03:03
rick_how do I set the clock on right bottom corner to show 12 hour time in AM & PM ?03:03
ardchoillepierreth: Oh, yes, you can make a new part and format just that part, but be very careful as one mistake can destroy other partitions. I would recommend you learn more about partitioning03:03
pierrethardchoille: OK, and how can I learn?03:04
Dragnslcrrick_- right click -> Date and Time Format03:04
ardchoillerick_: Right click the clock, choose Date & Time Format, go to the Times & Dates tab and change the Time format03:05
ardchoillerick_: If it tells you that you need to log out and back in, just restart kicker: dcop kicker default restart03:05
* Dr_willis still thinks 12 hr should be the default...03:06
Dr_willisand the darn clock should have a simple show 12/24 hr toggle. :)03:06
ardchoilleDr_willis: I agree with the toggle03:06
Dr_willisI may want 12 hr in the clock.. and 24 hr format in my docs. or somthing :03:06
somekoolmany packages missing for ubuntu, its annoying (simdock for example)03:06
ardchoillesomekool: There is a way to fix that ;)03:07
somekoolardchoille: yes I tried kcontrol, I cannot find the proper variant for the keyboard I want. but the kubuntu install tool works fine.03:07
ardchoillesomekool: Learn to package, then submit packages :)03:07
ardchoillesomekool: Ah, ok03:07
rick_thanks ardcholle, that did it03:07
ardchoillerick_: yw03:07
somekoolardchoille: is there a "making deb packages for dummies" yet?03:08
Evil_where can I get the C/++ include files? it says I don't have them03:08
ardchoillesomekool: I have a url for a tutorial, hold on..03:08
somekoolardchoille: do you know if I can rerun the install tool just to find the proper keybaord variant?03:08
Dr_willisEvil_,  install 'build-essentials' yet? (or was it build-essential03:08
ardchoillesomekool: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html  and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100303:08
Evil_nope03:08
Evil_I probably should, eh? lol03:09
ardchoillesomekool: I don't know about that03:09
Dr_willisEvil_,  yep.. You are overcoming your windows training grasshopper.. you will go far..03:09
ardchoillebuild-essential03:09
Dr_willis:)03:09
Evil_lmao03:09
ardchoillelol03:09
Dr_willis'you must throw off the harness and blinders of the gates and the windows'03:09
Dr_willis'and achieve the zen of the gpl'03:10
Dr_willis'use the foss luke!'03:10
Evil_lmao03:10
Evil_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? == any way to fix this, I usually just restart my computer03:10
ardchoilleDr_willis++03:10
ardchoilleEvil_: Close your other package managers and try again03:10
apparlehow to use kdevelop03:11
Evil_I don't see any open lol03:11
Evil_guess I just have to restart lol, brb03:12
ardchoilleEvil_: Did you have an adept crash maybe?03:12
rick_anyone here use Quanta+ ?03:14
apparlewhat is new in kde 403:14
ardchoillebugs03:15
* ardchoille hides03:15
DragnslcrIt's funny cause it's true03:15
apparleand what is new in gutsy over fiesty03:16
ardchoilleRestricted manager was the only thing I noticed03:16
oobegutsy has ntfs-3g pre configured03:17
pjeideI have the nvidia-glx-new drivers installed (100.14.19).  I have two monitors.. 1680x1050 and 1024x768.  By using the XServer Display Configuration option in nvidia-settings I was able to set up both screens appropriately.03:17
oobeit also has mythbuntu03:17
pjeideHowever, when I go to my Monitor & Display settings in KDE my system thinks I have a 2704x1050 desktop.  Is there a way to configure the system so that it recognizes two distinct screens?  There is an option in "SIze, Orientation & Positioning" for second screen, but it doesn't let me check the box for second screen.03:17
pjeideIs that a problem with my xorg.conf..?03:17
oobepjeide, i have the same thing it has never mattered03:18
pjeideoobe: I want to play games at fullscreen on one montior03:18
ardchoillepjeide: Did you click the Admin Mode button on the bottom?03:18
Dr_willispjeide,  you using nvidia card?03:18
pjeidebut wine and directx only see my screen @ 2704x105003:18
pjeideardchoille: yes03:18
pjeideDr_willis: yes03:18
apparleI have ATI drivers installed and set he screen to 1280x1024. but the logon screen has a diffrent resolution. what to do03:19
oobeyou need to configure it to lauch using xinerame one screem x03:19
oobe*xinerama03:19
Dr_willispjeide,  for my nvidia systems. I had to enable the twinview settings using the nvidia contrll tool. THEN restart the X server for the programs to see it right.03:19
pjeideI am not currently using xinerama, perhaps that might help03:19
Dr_willisI was thinking that twinview was used in place of xinerama.03:20
pjeideDr_willis: I have it setup for twinview, and I have been using it this way for about a month03:20
oobeit is03:20
Dr_willisI can move/max programs on one screen or another. Not sure if i got xinerama enabled or not.03:20
pjeideDr_willis: as can I03:20
pjeideeverything works appropriately except what resolution games recognize in WINE03:20
Dr_willisive noticed that some programs are just brain dead about how they do  the screen sizes. :( sadly03:20
Dr_willisahh so wine is the only catch eh?03:21
ardchoilleFigures03:21
pjeidemmm well some linux apps as well as you mentioned03:21
Dr_willisIve notied issues with java games/programs mainly.03:21
oobesounds like a tricky setup both my monitors are identical for that reason03:21
Dr_willisa few linux apps like.. err..  vmware, (which suprised me) and a few others.03:21
pjeideyea.. I tried a game called Einstein but it launches splayed out over both screens unintelligably03:21
oobei dont play games either03:21
Dr_willismame also had issues.03:22
pjeideoobe: I think that is one primary issue is that I'm using different resolutions03:22
oobei spose u have already googled a bit?03:22
pjeideI am just wondering if I configure my xorg.conf differently if I might get KDE to recognize the dual screen setup03:22
ardchoillepjeide: That would make my brain explode :P03:22
pjeideoobe: mmhmm :P03:22
Evil_Anyway to get past having to put in the Kubuntu disc, because I sorta lost mine lol (when installing the build-essential)03:23
Dr_willispjeide,  but you said kde and normal apps are working right - just wine is the problem?03:23
Dr_willisSection "ServerFlags"03:23
Dr_willis    Option         "Xinerama" "0"03:23
ardchoilleEvil_: You can comment the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list03:23
pjeideDr_willis: I am perfectly able to fullscreen applications on one screen as long as the app doesn't seem fundamentally flawed03:23
Dr_willisis whats in my main machine.. I THINK 0 = disables Xinerama03:23
Evil_ok, thanks, ardchoille03:23
Dr_willispjeide,  yep. Ive seen the same issue under windows also.. bad programing. :(03:24
ardchoilleEvil_: If you do that, then you'l need to reload the sources to take effect: sudo apt-get update03:24
pjeideDr_willis: So put that way, yes, it seems as though WINE's implementation of DirectX only detects the resolution reported by KDE03:24
oobexinerama is meant for running 2 xservers i forgot to mention that03:24
pjeideoobe: Which I am uninterested in doing03:24
oobebut that is a sure way of setting it up to work03:24
pjeideI see.03:24
pjeidethat is logical03:24
Dr_willisxinerama i though twas ment to set 2 displays to be seen as one large one...  twinview does a similer task but with some specific exceptions,details worked out.03:25
Dr_willisie; maxamizing to just 1 monitor, and so forth.03:25
Dr_willisthe #wine guys and forums for wine may have some work arounds.03:25
Dr_willisThere may be a way to tell wine 'my monitor is actually.... So x So'03:26
pjeideDr_willis, oobe, ardchoille: thanks for your assistance03:26
ardchoilleyw03:27
oobenp03:27
oobehope you get there03:27
oobepjeide, you could try using a different driver like nv or vesa03:28
pjeidethat is another option03:28
oobehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-456493.html03:28
apparlehow to change the resolution of the logon screen03:28
Evil_to the people who told helped me, I solute you! XD03:28
pjeideI went through quite a fiasco rewriting my xorg.conf to accept this video card over the onboard Intel gpu along with blacklisting the onboard's driver.. I am reluctant to go through rewriting the file again :-)  It sounds as though trying to futz with WINE might be the best option03:28
Evil_salute* whatever l0l03:29
oobeyou should disable ur onboard graphics card in the bios03:29
apparlewhat to do to change the resolution of logon screen03:30
oobeand its not that hard to switch drivers its only one line03:30
oobeyou can back up your xorg.conf03:30
pjeideoobe: of course03:30
pjeideoobe: I am just less than compelled to play with it more from that end03:30
oobedid you disable your onboard card?03:30
pjeideyes03:30
pjeidewell03:31
pjeidethe BIOS only has the option to set priority03:31
oobewow i thought that would of fixed it03:31
oobeoh ok03:31
rick_Anyone know Quanta+ ?03:31
pjeidewhich is similiar to disabling I suppose, because it will give priority to the PCI card (second hand box) in the event that one is detected03:31
pjeideand the onboard card gets disabled03:31
pjeidewhich alone wasn't sufficient, neither was blacklisting the intel driver.  I had to rewrite xorg file using a configuration utility, which got it booted right up03:32
ardchoillerick_: Have you tried ubuntu forums?03:32
rick_nope, how do I get there?03:32
ardchoillerick_: http://ubuntuforums.org/03:32
rick_I thought someone here might use it I can chat with03:33
rick_how do I change chat color ?03:34
ardchoillerick_: Good idea to try here first, but failing that, ubuntu forums is awesome.03:34
ardchoillerick_: Which chat client?03:34
rick_konversation03:34
rick_I just started using kubuntu03:34
ardchoillerick_: In the config dialog > Interface > Colors03:35
rick_ok I think03:36
rick_yup, got it03:36
apparlewhen I select the Ubutnu from grub menu I get 2 errors before kubuntu boots. I also get hte same errors  with live CD before booting starts. Can it be a problem03:37
ardchoilleapparle: Sounds like a hardware problem. What are the errors?03:37
jhutchinsapparle: Does it boot and work after that?03:38
oobeoobe, hello03:42
apparlesomething like "cannot allocate " something "of a" something "PCI device"03:42
apparlewhere something is a number03:42
apparlejhutchins: Yes everything else works perfectly03:43
Zoo1I'm stuck on the livecd boot up. I have a dual monitor setup, and one monitor reports out of range and the other monitor shows a tiny portion of the desktop03:46
Zoo1Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?03:47
apparleZoo1: when you get the initial menu before booting, set a common resoltion which will be visible on both the screens03:49
Zoo1How do I do that?03:50
andre_hello gents03:51
sMonkI have a small problem with adept03:51
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sMonkevery time I try to upgrade, or install something, after it's done d/l and tries to install it gets about 1/2 way then I get an error03:52
Zoo1apparle: How do I do that?03:52
sMonk"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"03:53
NeoxeekhrobeZoo1: just detach your second monitor.03:53
sMonkBut the "program" that I'm installing seems to install and work fine... it's more of an annoyance03:53
apparleZoo1: when you insert the disc. You will see a 30sec timed menu. Press the function key for selection for graphics(mostly F4 or F5) and select a common resolution appropriate for both the screens03:53
Neoxeekhrobeguys in KDE(kubuntu) when I use tab button to move around within a dialog window I am unable to see where the focus is going. If there are too many fields and buttons, I am forced to use the mouse. Is there a way to change this so that I could see the focus move?03:54
NeoxeekhrobeI am unable to see focus mover over buttons and check boxes. Links and text fields are fine.03:54
Dr_willisNeoxeekhrobe,  may want to try some other themes/widget sets.03:54
NeoxeekhrobeI am currently using the default theme.03:55
ardchoilleNeoxeekhrobe: Some apps which have tabs have the tab key focus run into the depths of those tabs.. so if yo ar enot on the tab that is currently focused with the tab key, you won't see the focus.03:56
ardchoilleAnd then there are devs who don't even set tab focus when deisgning the apps03:56
Neoxeekhrobebut its like the same thing on all apps03:56
Neoxeekhrobeeven on dialog boxes that have no tabs03:57
apparlezoo1: did you get it to work03:57
sMonkHello03:57
apparlehello03:57
Neoxeekhrobeok I just checked konqueror and yes I can see the focus in its dialog boxes.03:58
NeoxeekhrobeThanks03:58
andre_i know this is of topic but have any of you used pioneer, its kubuntu based03:59
ardchoilleandre_: And, iirc, it has automatix installed by default.. no , I won't use it.04:00
apparlehow to update kubuntu04:00
ardchoille!update | apparle04:00
ubotuapparle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes04:00
apparleardchoille: I don't want to upgrade. I want to update 7.1004:01
zibrah3edapparle: sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get update04:02
apparlezibrah3ed: Any offline method04:03
itstcan anyone help?04:03
itstV04:03
itstpam_quota.c:36:34: error: security/pam_modules.h: No such file or directory04:03
zibrah3edapparle: i saw one yesterday let me see if i can find it again04:04
apparlezibrah3ed: Please be fast04:04
Zoo1Yes apparle, thanks!04:05
zibrah3edapparle: see if this helps http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/04:05
zibrah3edapparle: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57281904:07
Zoo1That's interesting... new problem. While installing, I get the keyboard layout, hit next, it pauses at scanning disks and times out...04:09
Zoo1Have two SATA drives04:09
apparlezibrah3ed: everything else fits. Just that I have a fast net machine with Windows XP04:09
Zoo1Both have NTFS partitions, one has some ext3 partitions I set up in QTParted for it04:10
sMonkCan I get some help with an Adept problem?04:11
zibrah3edapparle: Use livecd?04:11
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alfredo_hi04:13
apparlezibrah3ed: any other option or a software which may work the same way on windows04:13
alfredo_OPPK04:14
apparlealfredo_:what is OPPK04:15
zibrah3edapparle: not that i am aware of04:19
Ch1ppyhey, I'm having trouble getting gmail-notify to run on boot for me, can anyone help me out?04:23
apparlezibrah3ed: what if we compiled the source for apt in windows04:24
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pierrethhello, what is the best reference to use to be able to read dvd with kubuntu 7.10?04:31
apparlebye everyone04:32
pierrethbye04:32
zibrah3edpierreth: DVD movies or what04:36
smookerHow do i burn .iso images ?04:38
zibrah3edsmooker:K3b04:38
ardchoillesmooker: With k3b04:38
ardchoillepierreth: You need to install libdvdcss2 and libxine1-ffmpeg04:38
smookeroic04:38
ardchoille!dvd | pierreth04:39
ubotupierreth: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:39
smooker10x04:39
smookerk3b is cool :)04:42
ardchoilleYeah04:42
t3ch13Anyone have any expereince with Kubuntu on a Acer Laptop?04:42
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pierrethI found this: http://brenta.free.fr/spip.php?article9504:43
smookerwhere i can see how much processor / ram is my system using ?04:44
Hirvinentop gives some information on processes04:44
Hirvinen+ and processor usage04:44
t3ch13from a terminal free will give memory usesage04:44
pierrethubotu: What do you mean by backing DVDs?04:44
t3ch13top04:44
HirvinenFor memory, free -m. What is really available is the second number on the second row.04:45
smookerwhere do i see how much processor and ram my system use ?04:45
pierrethardchoille: I will try these04:46
smookerwth04:48
smookerMem:          1899       1840         5804:48
smookerKubuntu doesnt use swap til mem fill ?04:48
stdinwhy would it, swap is slow04:49
t3ch13snooker there is a utility called KDE System Guard that might be helpful04:49
kopernicoHOLA04:50
kopernicohay alguien04:50
kopernicoholaaaaaaaaa04:51
kopernicoculitos04:51
stdin!es | kopernico04:51
ubotukopernico: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.04:51
stdinsmooker: you can install the package "kicker-applets" to get a nice system monitor applet for kicker too04:52
ardchoillestdin: Your cloak isn't going to change to reflect membership status?04:52
stdinardchoille: it will when I get around to asking :P04:53
ardchoillehehe04:53
smookerapt-get kicker-applets ?04:54
pierrethOK, by DVDs not seems to work, thank you.04:54
stdinsmooker: close "sudo apt-get install kicker-applets"04:54
smookerafter install where it is located ?04:55
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stdinsmooker: you right-click the panel, choose  "Add applet to panel" and add the "System Monitor" applet04:56
smookernice05:00
level1Hi, I have some sega gensis roms and i want to map them to the sega genesis emulator dgen; the problem is that the system doesn't understand the difference between a genesis rom and an application file, so if I change the associations, I get an error message every time I start an application05:02
level1I changed the file extentions to .gen, but it still complains05:02
smookergood night all :)05:04
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ardchoillelevel1: Does it complain that applications/octet-stream can be found or something?05:11
level1Could not find mime type application/octet-stream05:11
ardchoilleRight05:11
level1I get that error message every time I start an app... the app still starts05:12
level1causes some trouble on startup too05:12
ardchoillelevel1: Sometimes changing file associations can remove the octet-stream, you just need to re-add it. I'll help you do that.05:12
level1I tried changing the first four bits of each file, it still has this problem05:12
level1ardchoille: I can do that05:12
ardchoillelevel1: ok, add octet-stream back to the applications group but don't give it a file extension or an application05:13
level1ardchoille: I just want to be able to one click open my roms, but when I re-add octet-stream, I lose the genesis roms05:13
ardchoilleThat's a bug, I don't know how to fix it, tho :(05:13
level1ardchoille: anyway, I tried changing the first four bytes of each file in a hex editor and then putting the association back in... didn't seem to work, although dgen still opens the files05:14
ardchoillelevel1: Have you tried right clicking a genesis rom, choose Open with > Other, then choose the app top open it in, and check the checkbox at the bottom (Remember application association..)?05:15
level1ardchoille: It doesn't provide that checkbox05:15
scooter_does anyone know how to crack a windows XP password from the welcome screen?05:15
level1reminds me of a similar bug in windows05:15
stdinscooter_: you won't get an answer here05:15
level1scooter_: I'm not sure if we should be supporting illegal behavior here...05:15
ardchoillescooter_: This is neither the place to ask about cracking or Windows related stuff05:15
scooter_yea sorry05:16
level1I don't know if #windows would help you either, its up to you05:16
stdin##windows05:16
level1it redirects05:16
level1:)05:16
stdinsneaky windows people, always redirecting us :p05:16
ardchoille:)05:17
* purpleposeidon permanently redirects stdin to stdout05:17
level1stdin: how dare they move to an about channel like that!05:17
level1stdin > /dev/null05:17
stdinI have /dev/null symlinked to /dev/stdin, so your plan is foiled! ;)05:18
draikDoes anyone here know where I can find the touchscreen pad which attached to any monitor of any size via USB?05:18
purpleposeidonstdin: That sounds.....recursive. o_O05:18
stdindoesn't matter, /dev/stdin doesn't really exist...05:18
nicolasHey guys, I just installed 7.10 (dual booting with Gentoo), I used LILO from my Gentoo to boot Kubuntu.  Can anyone check my lilo.conf to ensure it is correct? (for instance, I didnt add the UUID stuff from grub)05:19
stdinit's not really there, only in your mind05:19
* purpleposeidon redirects stdin to /proc/self/fd/005:19
stdinpurpleposeidon: still doesn't exist, proc is magical :p05:20
* purpleposeidon surgically opens up stdin's hard drive, puts an ant inside, and closes it05:22
* stdin debugs05:22
ardchoilleThere, stdin, you now have a bug05:22
ardchoillehehe05:23
stdinsame thought :p05:23
purpleposeidonbetter make sure you've got GDB installed.05:23
stdinI have gdb, ddd and kdbg05:23
level1nicolas: why don't use grub?05:24
level1nicolas: any reason?05:24
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nicolaslevel1: Always prefered LILO.  It also allows me to display a bitmap instead of the menu.  Last I checked grub only allows an image as a background to the menu.  That and all my configs were already in LILO on my /boot.  But never encountered all the UUID stuff that kubuntu put into it's grub.  Never seen it configured as a menu.lst either.05:25
level1my grub doesn't have UUIDs, I don't think...05:26
stdinnicolas: not sure lilo can do the UUID stiff, but it's not required, you can still use /dev/ addresses05:26
level1oh I see05:27
level1if menu.lst is anything like fstab, the UUIDs aren't actually nessary...  I don't know why ubuntu uses them05:27
nicolasok, just wondering since I wasnt sure what they were.  Second up would be how do I get KDE4.  AFAIK still in beta but I wouldnt mind trying it.  Is there a metapackage or something for it.05:27
level1It causes hell when I do any kind of trivial reformating..05:27
nicolasI've never seen UUIDs in fstab *shrugs*  But I've mostly been on Gentoo and Fedora.05:28
level1nicolas: I find complining it from source is always much more stable than getting the binaries...05:28
level1nicolas: it takes a little while (mostly downtime) but its not that hard05:28
level1nicolas: I'll get you a link05:28
stdinnicolas: kde4 reached RC1 a little while ago, see the link in the topic to get it05:29
nicolaschecking05:29
level1http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE405:29
stdinardchoille: /whois me :)05:31
sparr_[how] can i symlink directories across different drives and have the ".." directory behave sensibly?05:31
stdinsparr_: if you use relative links then you need to make sure the partitions are mounted in the same place all the time05:32
ardchoillestdin: That's more like it :)05:32
stdin:)05:33
ardchoillestdin: Tho, it's good to see the pdpc support05:33
sparr_stdin: they are05:33
ardchoilleO may apply for membership myself, tho I don't know if I'm eligible05:33
sparr_stdin: and the links are absolute05:33
stdinardchoille: I may get it added back, but I don't need to advertise my support for pdpc as long I a05:34
stdin* as I support them05:34
ardchoilleTrue05:34
stdinspar_: then what's not working in your case?05:34
stdinardchoille: why wouldn't you be eligible ?05:35
ardchoillestdin: I'm not a coder nor an important person05:36
stdinardchoille: I only just finished my 1st beginners book on c++, I don't consider myself a coder05:36
purpleposeidonardchoille: But do you have money?05:36
stdinardchoille: and providing support is important05:37
ardchoillestdin: I think I'll apply, the most they can say is no.05:37
draikHow do you piece together rar files that are  filename.part001.rar, filename.part002.rar, etc....?05:37
stdinardchoille: ask what you can do to help too (with documentation for instance) too05:38
ardchoilledraik: Wouldn't unrar do that?05:38
ardchoille!rar05:38
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free05:38
ardchoille!unrar05:38
draikardchoille: Yet again, thanks for the info.05:40
ardchoilledraik: You're welcome :)05:40
draikI have the worst luck with part001.rar types05:40
draikr01 and so forth are ok05:41
somekoolhello05:41
somekoolI want to install kde4 on my kubuntu system, any package of RC1 that can be easily installedÉ05:41
somekool??05:41
ardchoilledraik: With today's DSL and high capacity devices, I can nly assume that is an old set of rar files.05:41
stdinsomekool: yes, see the link in the topic05:41
draikardchoille: possibly. It's a movie05:42
ardchoilledraik: In that case, it may have been broken down to aid in fast downloading05:42
leileilolhow can i get fluidsynth working as the default midi synth?05:43
draikardchoille: And that's fine, but I would prefer r01, r02, etc...05:43
nicolasIs VMware supported under kubuntu?05:43
ardchoilledraik: yeah05:43
draiknicolas: Yes05:43
Stokesywhy is 667 ram more expensive than 800?05:43
nicolasdraik: just run the tarball or is there a adept repo I havent found?05:44
draik667 is the neighbor to The Beast05:44
draik!vmware05:44
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers05:44
Stokesyis 667 better than 800? all of dell's 'high end' machines have 66705:44
nicolasStokesy: RAM is priced to order.  Its about the only computer component that isnt priced as per its performance.05:44
draikIt's late. I'm going to leave the desktop on overnight to download the movie at average 25KB/s. :/05:47
nicolasthats a wee bit slow.  Better be a good movie heh05:47
somekoolI have a serious keyboard problem that I really can`t fix..  I set my xorg to a french-canadian keyboard which works fine under kdm login manager. but once i logon in KDE, it get screwed and becomes half working. any idea what could it be ?05:48
stdinhave you set the keyboard layout in system settings > regional & language ?05:49
IceGuest_7could someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for installing kubuntu while still keeping winxp intact?  that whole partition thing has me a little confused.  thank you in advance.05:50
stdinhmm, maybe ubotu knows...05:51
stdin!dualboot05:51
ubotuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot05:51
stdinwell, ubotu knows all :)05:51
IceGuest_7thank you so much, have a good night.05:51
titanix88hi people:)05:55
titanix88:(05:55
leileilol:((05:56
titanix88hi leileilol :)05:57
titanix88anyone know any channel abt linux games?05:58
leileilol#gametome?05:58
titanix88hmm.05:59
bfrogI've heard there's lots of issues with 7.10... is that true?06:01
jddmENTONCES06:02
jddmQUE MAS06:02
posingaspopular!es06:03
leileiloli've had worse ati install issues in gutsy, but that's it06:03
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.06:03
titanix88whats the shortcut for switching tabs in gaim(not pidgin)?06:03
jddmOK06:03
posingaspopulartitanix88: alt+ctrl up and down iirc06:06
stdinbfrog: I've had no issues with 7.1006:07
bfrogare all the typical non-free somewhat-non-legal codecs available as well?06:08
bfroglike, lame, is lame available?06:08
posingaspopularbfrog: yes06:08
bfrogok06:08
bfrogand one last one06:08
bfrogmythtv?06:08
titanix88posingaspopular: doesn't work for me:(06:09
posingaspopularbfrog: you can run mythbuntu06:09
bfrogsweet06:09
posingaspopularit's ubuntu specialized for mythv06:09
bfrogalright, thanks, time to switch then06:09
bfrogtired of crap not working06:09
posingaspopularsuperm1 and chadarius are two guys I know who help with that06:09
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trillisCould anyone spare some time to help a nub?06:31
trillis:(06:32
trillisHow can I get Youtube to work for Linux?06:32
INIT_6trillis, do you have flash installed?06:33
titanix88trillis: install flash-plugin-nonfree06:33
trillisEh... Nevermind. It's not youtube I need help with.06:33
INIT_6Right now, I am kind of stuck using VLC to play music. what is a really good mp3 player for kubuntu. don't like amarok, or kaffine. any suggestions?06:34
trillisI don't suppose theres a Divx webplayer for Linux?06:34
trillisxmms?06:34
INIT_6I will try it thanks, and good ? on the Divx, I will check into that right now. cuz I will need that to :)06:35
trillisStreaming movies aren't working for me...:(06:36
trillisI found a good site with working streaming videos, but I keep getting these install-plugin errors.06:37
* trillis wants to watch the last samurai :(06:37
INIT_6stage6 has the best divx movies. same issue for me, says to use mplayer,06:38
stdinplease don't talk about potentially illegal activities in here (or any other ubuntu affiliated channel)06:38
trillisMy apologies.06:38
INIT_6avifile-divx-plugin < you can try this I would but I am installing other stuff.06:39
stdinjust install mozilla-mplayer06:39
stdin(you may need to put "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf for divx)06:40
trillisSo type: "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf" after sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?06:41
* trillis is linux retarded06:41
stdintry starting up a video in firefox first, then the file should be created, then edit it06:42
trillisShould I install mozilla-mplayer first?06:42
stdinyes06:42
stdinand if you've installed any other media player plugins for firefox you should remove them06:43
stdinthey can conflict and stop each other06:43
trillisSaid broken packages...?06:43
stdinhelps to have the whole error message, pastebin is your friend06:44
trillislink?06:44
stdin!paste06:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:44
trillisHeheh06:44
trillishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46535/06:45
stdintrillis: do you have multiverse enabled?06:46
trillisWhats that?06:47
stdin!multiverse06:47
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:47
trillisNot sure...06:49
sigma_hi guys, does the fglrx driver enable tv out functionality on the ati radeon mobility 9000?06:51
trillisstdin: It appears so.06:51
stdintrillis: try "sudo apt-get install mplayer" then06:52
fildohey if i have upgraded to gutsy, is there anyway to revert back to fiesty, cause i have hardware issues with video card06:52
sigma_fildo: nope just backup and format06:53
trillis"Unable to lock the administration directory(?var/lib/dpkg)06:53
fildosigma_: narh there must be a way06:53
stdintrillis: did you use sudo?06:54
trillisYes.06:54
stdinfildo: there is not06:54
stdintrillis: have adept or another package manager open?06:54
trillisYes..heheh.06:54
sigma_fildo: even if there was one the system would prob be very unstable after you reverted back06:54
trillis"Package mplayer has no installation candidate"06:55
stdintrillis: you sure you have multiverse enabled?06:55
stdin!info mplayer06:55
ubotumplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB06:55
sigma_fildo: i think the dev's are still looking into implement some sort of a rollback feature06:55
trillisUhm...06:55
trillisHow can I check?06:55
fildosigma_:  yeah true06:56
stdintrillis: what version of kubuntu do you have?06:56
trillisDeparted maybe?06:56
trillisHow to I check?06:56
stdin!version06:56
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell06:56
trillisDapper06:57
trillisHeheh, I knew it had a  d and a p.06:57
sigma_does anyone know if xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.9-12.4_i386.deb will work on feisty? i tried it on gutsy with my ati mobility 9000 and it picked up the driver but didnt work06:57
sigma_trillis: dam don't you think its time to upgrade:)06:58
stdintrillis: close all package managers, press Alt-F2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then post that file to pastebin06:58
stdinsigma_: why didn't you install the gutsy version of the driver on gutsy?06:59
trillishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46536/06:59
sigma_stdin: ati dropped support for my chipset in that version :( so i can't use the latest version07:00
stdinsigma_: then your only option is to get the old driver from ati.com and install that (if it exists)07:00
sigma_i got the version from the ubuntu repo's, is that the same thing?07:01
stdinsigma_: no, that version will only work with a certain kernal version, the 2.6.17 one (gutsy uses 2.6.22)07:02
stdintrillis: see the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe", add the word "multiverse" after "universe" so it looks like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"07:02
sigma_dam!07:03
sigma_so if i install the binary one from the ati website in gutsy it should work you say?07:03
trillisTo all of them?07:03
stdintrillis: no, just that one line07:03
stdinsigma_: only if that particular version is available07:04
fildook i have a nvidia question if anyone can answer for me07:04
sigma_ya i saw it on the ati site - they keep it in the archives07:04
trillissave?07:04
stdinsigma_: or you could get "fglrx-kernel-source" from feisty and compile that one on gutsy, that may work07:04
stdintrillis: yes, then do "sudo apt-get update"07:05
sigma_fildo: shoot, nvidia is usually simpler than ati07:05
sigma_]stdin: what does that kernel source thing do?07:05
trillisIt finished, not try mozilla-mplayer?07:05
stdinsigma_: that's the source of the driver, the same one that's used to make the driver on feisty07:06
stdintrillis: yes07:06
trillisYaay, thank you stdin.07:06
sigma_stdin: does it work on gutsy as well and how exactly do i use it after installing it?07:07
trillisI'll most likely be on tomorrow with many more questions and dilemma's.07:07
fildosigma_: using fiesty i was using the proprietary driver it worked brillant. now i have upgraded to gutsy. using the proprietary driver , it tend to login to kde, then boot me out into the login screen after a few mins, like its crashing07:07
trillisThanks, and have a good night.07:07
stdinsigma_: you get that package and then do something like "sudo ma ai fglrx" i think07:07
TAB-2112hello all, if I've installed Ubuntu from the Live CD and have now decided that I definitely prefer KDE to GNOME, is there any easy way to remove the GNOME-based apps?07:07
Radi01¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʎɐldsıp ʎɯ07:07
Radi01whew07:08
stdinRadi01: that gets very old very fast07:08
ardchoilleRadi01: Yeah, that's a nice website :P07:08
Radi01did ya find it07:08
sigma_fildo: did you build the driver from the nvidia or use the glx drivers in the repo?07:09
fildoglx in the repo07:09
fildoi usally install it myself, thru apt-get07:09
ardchoilleRadi01: I was going to suggest you stand on your head :)07:09
Radi01lol07:09
fildobut i have been told you can also use restircted-manager07:09
Radi01Some people have no sense of humor.07:10
fildofiesty used to use nvidia-glx07:10
sigma_fildo: dont use restricted manager, confuses the situation, what card do you have?07:10
fildogutsy uses nvidia-glx-new. could be the driver i say07:11
fildoim on a laptop07:11
sigma_fildo: gutsy also uses it, thats how i installed my one, no there is a "nvidia-glx" version for gutsy07:11
sigma_check it out @ packages.ubuntu.com07:12
fildonVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] (rev a1)07:12
ardchoilleHere's how I install nvidia drivers in my Gutsy system: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable07:13
ardchoilleDone :)07:13
ardchoilleOf course, you have to restart xorg07:13
fildohehe07:13
fildoi just wanna play et07:14
ardchoillelol07:14
mark_question: just installed kubuntu gutsy on my lenovo T40 lappy.  I'm checking dmesg and I'm seeing repeated messages "printk: x messages suppressed.".  What am I looking at?07:14
ardchoillemark_: Does this page have any info that helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41212507:16
sigma_stdin: r u still there?07:17
ardchoillesigma_: pfft, he lives here07:17
* ardchoille ducks07:17
stdin /cs kb ardchoille ;)07:17
ardchoillehahaha07:17
stdindamn, put a space in there :p07:17
ardchoilleLucky for me07:17
mark_ardchoille: err... well, at a quick skimming I can't see anything that relates, but thanks...07:18
ardchoillemark_: Sorry about that, that was all I could find in google07:19
stdinsigma_: you wanted me for something?07:20
m0u5eanyone know where xserver-xgl stored its config files?07:20
mark_ardchoille: np.  I've searched google myself and I've found some references to reducing some logging, but nothing that specifically states what that particular message indicates nor what it might be indicitive of...07:20
sigma_stdin: will i be able to use that ati driver i got from the ubuntu repo's with that fglrx-kernel-source package you told me to get?07:20
purpleposeidonHow do I make wlassistant run with that setuid thing?07:20
stdinsigma_: no, that package lets you build a driver package from it07:21
purpleposeidonIf I do chmod+s; it says The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.07:21
sigma_stdin: ok im lost what do you mean?07:21
ardchoillepurpleposeidon: Be careful with setuid, are you sure you really need to change that?07:21
purpleposeidonardchoille: Yeah, I'm lazy.07:22
ardchoillepurpleposeidon: fwiw, being lazy can open up a security hole where one wouldn't otherwise be open :)07:22
purpleposeidon"Oh no, somebody's gonna somehow login to my laptop and do x forwarding, and change my wireless access point!"07:22
stdinsigma_: from what I think I know ;) you do "sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic fglrx-kernel-source" then do "sudo m-a prepare,update" then "sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel"07:24
stdinsigma_: just found this, should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae307:25
sigma_stdin: but will it build it from the edgy deb that i got?07:26
stdinsigma_: the fglrx-kernel-source package is just the source, it should build on any version07:26
stdin*should* (doesn't mean it will)07:27
sigma_lol07:27
sigma_stdin: i installed everything and have fglrx.deb sitting on my desktop, whats the command i must type in Konsole to convert it?07:28
stdinconvert to what?07:28
sigma_convert it to a gutsy deb07:28
stdinif you built it with module-assistant then it is07:29
sigma_i didnt build it yet stdin, its the one i downloaded from the ubuntu repo07:32
sigma_ok that didnt work, looks like il have 2get the ati driver from ati.com07:39
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abuaoihello...anybody home ????07:56
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jdlizardanyone know anything about vdrift08:00
posingaspopularhi abuaoi08:01
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FunnyLookinHatAh crap, just read the news about KDE 4.0 being pushed back another month to mid-january   : P08:38
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LynoureI could not figure out how to add things to panels in KDE4 rc1 yet, so not really eager for it. :)  (help is welcome, though)08:41
sigma_why can't k3b burn multisession dvd-rw's on lg dvd writers?08:43
sigma_it keeps telling me some incremental streaming method is not available08:43
LynoureI have an LG writer but I have not had need to try multisession dvd-rw yet...08:44
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sigma_lynoure: it don't work and i dont know why, i like multisession because i used it in windows to do my backups quickly08:44
Lynouresigma_: you mean you have already gotten some other people to verify it does not work for them either?08:45
sigma_lynoure: nope but i tried it on both my pc's - one intel and one amd will totally diff hardware but the same dvd-rw drive and it doesnt work08:46
Lynouresigma_: it's still possible you are missing some software on both, but you could check Launchpad for that, and maybe report a bug08:48
sigma_ok i see but can they fix k3b?08:48
Lynourethe exact error message would help, too. As I cannot test with dvd-rw now (none of them around right now)08:48
LynoureThey can delegate bug reports, and it being open source, yes, fixing is possible, too.08:49
sigma_does anyone know how to change the phpmyadmin password manually?08:58
leileiloli wish that "fluidsynth: warning: ALSA sequencer buffer overrun, lost events" warning went away09:01
leileilolinternet says 'ignore it, it's harmless' but it's actually making a huge oversampled playback that hurts ears09:02
gianotest09:08
hangthedjtest?09:08
gianoyeah sorry i'm testing connection ;)09:08
osman47!de09:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:08
hangthedjgiano, it works!09:09
gianoyeah!09:09
gianonow i try with proxy...go and get another channel09:09
giano:D09:09
gianook #a is good enough09:10
hangthedji love proxies.09:10
LynoureIs there somewhere instructions on how to use kde4? I have it installed, but I don't understand how to do some things yet (panels, mostly)09:16
wiggyhello09:35
wiggyhello ???09:35
leon_romainhello wiggy09:36
hangthedjwiggy | hi09:36
hangthedjhi09:36
hangthedjoops09:36
hangthedjwiggy, hi!09:37
hangthedj!hi | wiggy09:37
ubotuwiggy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:37
hangthedjthere we go09:37
wiggyThanks09:37
wiggycan someone tell me how to turn my kubuntu into french ?09:37
wiggyI've just installed it but everything is in english09:37
stdinwiggy: should be in KMenu > System Settings > Regional & Language09:39
wiggyok, let me check it09:39
hangthedjwiggy, when you installed why didn't you choose your language?09:39
wiggyI chose french09:41
Cicci0hi... someone has tried installing klamav on kubuntu 7.10?09:41
wiggybut the system comes in english09:41
Cicci0I can't install successfully dazuko module09:41
wiggystdin, I don't have french in the list09:41
jpatrickCicci0: you probably won't ever need it, but I have installed clamav09:41
hangthedjwiggy, the installation should let you choose your language though.09:41
Cicci0jpatrick: I need it cause I'd like to have online control on removable media (for work purpose)09:42
wiggyI said that I choose french during the installation hangthedj09:42
hangthedjweird.09:42
Cicci0I can use klamav and clamav without problems but I'd like to have real-time analysis...09:43
jpatrickwiggy: installed language-pack-kde-fr?09:43
jpatrickCicci0: sorry, I can't help you there :(09:43
wiggyhow to do it ?09:43
jpatrickwiggy: type "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-fr" into the konsole09:43
jpatrickCicci0: unless you look for the logs in /var/logs09:44
wiggythanks09:44
jpatrickwiggy: and afterwards it should appear under Languages in system settings09:45
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Dragonathanyone know if skype meant for 7.04 works on 7.10 too?09:47
jpatrickDragonath: I have installed it on Gutsy09:47
jpatrickfrom skype.com09:47
Dragonathand it works ok?09:47
jpatrickhaven't tried it (for dad)09:47
Dragonathahh09:48
jpatrickbut it worked fine on his lappy09:48
Dragonathgonna try anyways, thanks09:49
LynoureDragonath: it does.09:55
LynoureDragonath: at least for basic stuff, no video for me :)09:55
dpixhello10:02
hangthedj!hi | dpix10:03
ubotudpix: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:03
dpixis it compatible KDE + ATI X600 + COMPIZ-FUSION?10:03
hangthedj!compiz10:03
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:03
jpatrick!es | dpix10:05
ubotudpix: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.10:05
swayerhi10:10
dpixhello10:10
dpixkubuntu compiz-fusion10:10
dpixcompiz-fusion10:11
dpix!compiz-fusion10:11
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:11
ashley_hi10:12
hangthedjashley_, whats going on?10:13
jordinateurther's noone ?10:28
jpatrickcould be..10:28
jpatrick!fr | jordinateur10:28
ubotujordinateur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:28
jordinateurHow do you know I'm french ??10:29
jpatrickI have my ways...10:29
jpatricknah, it's just --> jordinateur has joined this channel (*@*FR).10:29
jordinateurhha okay10:29
jordinateurbah there's noone in french channel ;p10:30
jordinateurso I've a big recurent problem with compiz10:30
jpatrickjordinateur: there are 26 people in the kubuntu-fr one10:30
jpatrick!compiz | jordinateur10:30
ubotujordinateur: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:30
jordinateurwhen I active compiz (I don't know how to say that) my screen is blank !! I must return in konsole mode to enter some lines to kill compiz's process to work normaly10:31
jordinateurit's must be in cause of glx or I don't know...10:32
jordinateurI've installed drivers of my graphic card !10:32
jordinateurIt worked good yesterday but after a reboot, there's this blank screen10:33
jordinateurP.S : Sorry for my bad english ^^10:33
onishidatocan someone tell me what is Wine program?10:34
sigma_how do i delete the suspend and hibernate buttons from my logout dialog?10:34
onishidato!wine10:34
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.10:34
sigma_onishidato: its a windows emulator that helps you run win programs in linux10:35
onishidatoi can't not close the apt program on my computer. they say that i don't 'have permission. But i'm the administrator. how can i do now?10:42
onishidatohello10:43
onishidatoanyone here?10:44
hangthedjonishidato, you can't not close, do you mean you can't close10:45
_DTonishidato: open a terminal window. type sudo killall synaptic10:48
_DTthat should do it. you'll need to enter your root pass though10:48
_DTit basically stops the program from the command line by killing the process10:49
stdin_DT: onishidato left a while ago10:49
jpatrick:> ...10:49
JackWinteris there a good program to produce animated gifs of screenshots, or to record the desktop including mouse movements.  i'd like to make a few tutorials.10:57
llutzJackWinter: recordmydesktop10:57
stdin!screencast | JackWinter10:58
ubotuJackWinter: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.10:58
iloris there somewhere a guide on making fn-keys work on laptops?10:59
WaltzingAlong!find milo10:59
ubotuFound: kmilo, kmilo-legacy10:59
WaltzingAlong!info kmilo | ilor, perhaps this software?11:00
ubotuilor, perhaps this software?: kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB11:00
ilorI seem to have it already installed11:01
hangthedjkmilo is a peice of crap11:01
WaltzingAlongilor: yeah it probably is. which keys did you want?11:01
ilorI want brightness and volume11:01
ilorthe rest I dont care11:01
ilorthe panel-light-off key works11:02
JackWinterwhich screen capture program do you guys prefer.  i might lean to recordmydesktop since it's in the repo and has a kde frontend?11:03
ilorand the volume "kind of" works - it goes form 0% to 11% only and doesn't actually affect the colume11:03
WaltzingAlong!fn11:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:03
hangthedjilor, what kind of computer do you have?11:03
ilorasus f3jp11:03
hangthedjif your having the 11% bug, kmilo won't work with your computer11:04
hangthedjit only recognizes, the master channel so if your first channel is like pcm, it wont work.11:04
ilorwhat should I do then?11:04
hangthedjor front11:05
hangthedjuninstall it, and map your keys using the kmix global keyboard shortcuts11:05
hangthedjthere will be no osd, but it will control your volume11:05
hangthedjbig reason why i use kubuntu for my desktop and ubuntu for my laptop11:06
RaizardHello all11:09
jpatrick!hi | Raizard11:10
ubotuRaizard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:10
RaizardI have a problem with linuxant driverloader. I install it correctly but konqueror isn't able to open the web configuration panel. Can anyone help me?11:10
Raizardah in Ubuntu all work in the right way, so i can't figure out why it doen't qork in kubuntu11:13
Raizardwork*11:13
dysonwerd11:13
dysoncompiz --replace takes me to a login screen then loads default meta :/11:13
dysoni`m on gutsy, got it working on feisty, shouldn't have upgraded11:14
Raizarddyson11:14
dysonye?11:15
Raizardcompiz --replace doesn't work for me 'cause it's a difference between feisty and gutsy11:15
dysonsolution?11:15
dysonanswers man, gimme answes :P11:15
Raizardi activated compiz in the control panel11:16
dysonthere's a control panel?11:16
Raizardi choosed Advance desktop effects11:16
Raizardand i have compiz fusion to work11:16
dysonwhat do you mean by control panel11:16
Raizardmmm11:16
Raizard^^ i'm a newbie in kubuntu, i'm talking about ubuntu but i think the solution is quite the same11:17
JackWinterok,recordmydesktop works good, and i like the integration in kde.  how do i convert the resulting .ogg file to animated gif?11:17
Raizardcan anyone help me with linuxant driverloader???11:18
WaltzingAlongRaizard: you could check in #ubuntu11:19
Raizardno i'm talking about KUBUNTU11:19
Raizardi think i'm in the right place11:19
gabbahwhat program do you use to monitor your cpu temp?11:20
WaltzingAlongRaizard: sure are. ok the linuxant download?11:20
Raizard WaltzingAlong: ok, succeful install11:20
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Raizard WaltzingAlong: but konqueror can't use the web configuration panel11:20
Raizard WaltzingAlong: i don't know why11:20
WaltzingAlongRaizard: neither do i. have you tried in firefox?11:21
Lynouregabbah: I usually just do  acpi -t  occasionally, but depending on your system it might not work out of the box11:21
Raizard WaltzingAlong: that's what i want to do11:21
Raizard WaltzingAlong: do you think it makes it to work?11:22
WaltzingAlongRaizard: sorry i never used the linuxant drivers11:22
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Raizard WaltzingAlong: in sabayon linux konqueror was able to access the web conf panel11:23
Raizard WaltzingAlong: in ubuntu all works fine11:23
WaltzingAlongRaizard: sorry i really do not know11:23
gabbahgabriel@gabriel-desktop:~$ acpi -t11:23
gabbahNo support for device type: thermal11:23
Raizard WaltzingAlong: In Kubuntu doesn't work11:24
LynoureDoes anyone know a source for Gutsy packaget Kraft?11:24
Raizard WaltzingAlong: Maybe is tit a problem of port?11:24
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Raizard WaltzingAlong: i have to login at http://127.0.0.1:18020/11:25
Raizard WaltzingAlong: Do i have to open this port, wich maybe is closed by default?11:26
WaltzingAlongare you using a proxy? maybe squid has not been configured to allow 18020 as a safe port11:26
WaltzingAlongyou should be able to connect to it from localhost though i suppose a firewall could be blocking that too11:26
Raizard WaltzingAlong: i have a default installation of kubuntu11:26
Raizard WaltzingAlong: what is squid?11:27
jpatrick!info squid11:27
Raizard WaltzingAlong: never heard about that11:27
ubotusquid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB11:27
Raizardoptional?11:27
Raizardso it isn't installed by default11:27
jpatrickyes11:28
Raizardi try with firefox11:28
jpatricknot everyone wants a WWW proxy cache installed on their computer11:28
WaltzingAlongRaizard: right likely not installed then11:28
Raizardiceweasel11:30
Raizardi try with this11:30
WaltzingAlongk11:30
dpixhey11:31
dpixcan anyone help me with compiz-fusion11:31
dpixI've got an ATI X600 (accelerated 3d) + compiz-fusion + Kubuntu 7.10, when I activate compiz-fusion (compiz --replace) my computer freezes11:32
WaltzingAlongdpix: which driver/module for the video card?11:32
dpixhow do I know that?11:32
WaltzingAlongKubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | dpix, otherwise try with the newer fglrx module11:33
dpixyes, I did that11:33
dpixfglrk ?11:33
dpixfglrk11:33
dpix!fglrk11:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fglrk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:33
WaltzingAlongfglrx11:33
Raizard!iceweasel11:34
ubotuIceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel11:34
WaltzingAlongfglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | dpix11:34
niko_hi to all11:35
dpix!fglrx11:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:35
niko_i've installe dth fglrx11:35
niko_but when i install ccsm11:35
niko_the icon image11:35
niko_they aren't11:35
niko_and the screen for turnig off, rebooting, etc show me only the terminate session option11:36
niko_wath's wrong?11:36
niko_i followed the wiki11:36
dpixme too11:36
niko_no one?11:38
niko_!ati11:38
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:38
niko_!help11:38
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:38
WaltzingAlong#kubuntu is not specifically for unsupported compiz in kde/kubuntu support11:40
ristoany quanata users ?11:45
bad-wimpieheello11:46
dpixhi11:46
ristohi11:47
ristohow i can set some code templates11:47
sakyjoin #love11:48
jpatricksaky: with / in front might help :)11:48
gabriel_my sound suddenly stopped working after a reboot... where do i start the troubleshooting?11:49
WaltzingAlong!sound | gabriel_11:52
ubotugabriel_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:52
dpixhow can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.111:54
niko_hi to all11:55
dpixhow can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.111:55
niko_i'm in trouble with fstab11:55
niko_i can't create any file11:55
gabriel_thanks WaltzingAlong :)11:56
krautmoin11:57
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gabriel_must i use the 64-bit version of ubuntu in order to use my 4gig of ram?12:13
stdinto use all of it without recompiling the kernel, yes12:14
gabriel_i have a 64-bit cpu... core 2 duo12:14
gabriel_hmpf..12:14
gabriel_it seems it uses only 3291MB12:15
gabriel_i tried 64 bit version but had some problems with flash.. is it not recommended to run it yet? i mean in terms of applications supporting it and general troubles..12:16
gabriel_?12:16
velhohello people. does any one knows how can i put linux to read the folder size of each folder, like this program i use in windows? http://foldersize.sourceforge.net/ thank you in advance :D12:16
Raizardnothing at all12:20
RaizardDriveloader web conf doesn't work12:20
Raizardcan anyone help me?12:20
stdinvelho: "df /path/to/folder" in console or kdirstat for a GUI12:22
RaizardCan anyone help me with driverloader?12:23
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RaizardCan anyone help me with driverloader?12:24
Raizardplz12:24
jpatrick!pacience12:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pacience - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:24
LynoureRaizard: if you are a bit more specific, you are more likely to get help12:25
stdin!patience12:25
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:25
Raizardok12:25
Raizardnow i explain12:25
Raizardi installed driverloader with source12:25
Raizardall done12:25
Raizardbut konqueror can't access the web configuration panel12:26
Raizardi read the wiki12:26
Raizarddo what it says to do12:26
Raizardbut all works well, BUT the webconfiguration panel12:26
Raizardi don't know why...12:27
LynoureRaizard: so, what exactly happens when you try to access  http://localhost:18020/ ?12:29
Raizard Lynoure: an error message tell me that konqueror can't connect with the specified host12:30
LynoureHow did you start webconfd?12:31
Raizard Lynoure: if i use "ps -C webconfd" the system tell me that this process is running12:31
Raizard Lynoure: modprobe driverloader12:32
Raizardi used this command12:32
dyson2aight12:32
dyson2so sum1 feel like helping me install compiz?12:32
jpatrick!compiz | dyson212:33
ubotudyson2: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:33
dyson2been there12:33
LynoureRaizard: that just loads the module, it does not necessarily start the web service. Could you tell me what instructions you followed so far?12:33
Raizard Lynoure: i do exactly this12:34
Lynoure(I normally steer clear of wifi that requires closed source drivers, so I really don't know what howto people use)12:34
Raizard Lynoure: i MUST use this drivers12:34
Raizard Lynoure: it's the only way i have to reach the web12:35
LynoureRaizard: sudo dldrconfig --webconf=127.0.0.1:18020   should start it12:35
LynoureRaizard: what's the wifi card you are using?12:35
dyson2thing is, when i `compiz --replace` i get the login screen, and when logging in it loads kdm again12:35
ciperloneey12:35
Raizard Lynoure: D-Link DWL G-13212:36
Raizard Lynoure: in ubuntu works, in other KD Environments work12:36
Raizard Lynoure:in Kubuntu doesn't work12:36
Raizard Lynoure: now i try with the command you tell me12:37
Raizard Lynoure: and then came back12:37
Raizard Lynoure: to let you know12:37
dyson2compiz on kubuntu12:45
dyson2be a man12:45
PilotI need to install JRE.  Is it best to use the .bin file from sun, or use a package through Adept?  And if through Adept, the architecture dependant (75MB) or the architecture independant (14MB)12:46
dyson2Kubuntu 7.10 & compiz? followed numerous online guides. can i get some help from sum1 who knows something?12:48
LynourePilot: I ended up using the one from Sun, but I have not really done comparative research, just at the point when I did it Eclipse seemed happier that way12:49
LynourePilot: But of course Ubuntu packages are easier to upgrade.12:49
ksaldyson2: what's the problem?12:51
Pilotok thansk.12:51
dyson2well i THINK xorg dies12:52
dyson2when i do a 'compiz --replace'12:52
ksaldyson2: are you sure that x crashes?12:53
dyson2well i get the login screen again12:54
PilotSo I tried to install jre through adept and it crashed... lol12:54
ksaldyson2: kde? what graphic card you have?12:54
ksalhave you installed restricted drivers?12:54
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dyson2i thought i was supposed to NOT install the restricted drivers12:55
dyson2the drivers i have are from the nvidia site12:55
dyson2followed some guid12:55
dyson2guide12:55
dyson2(thought the restricted drivers = nvidia-glx package, yes? i`m not using those.)12:56
ksaldyson2: you should'nt install drivers from nvidia or ati sites12:56
dyson2nvidia 7-series card12:56
ksalthey can do a mess in your system12:56
dyson2so i revert back to the nvidia-glx drivers?12:56
dyson23d works fine though, i can play games and my openGL screensavers work12:57
dyson2how do i get the output from 'compiz --replace' into a text file ?12:57
dyson2can i run it from a different login?12:57
Lynouredyson2: compiz --replace >> compiz.txt   should probably be enough12:58
dyson2brb12:58
ksaldyson2: kubuntu should propose you to install restricted drivers from the repo12:59
ksali had this with my card12:59
liyongning大家好12:59
dyson2this is even thought the compiz site tells me different12:59
dyson2http://compiz.org/NVidia12:59
dyson2?12:59
ksalin control center, on advanced tab you have a manager for that.12:59
ksaloh, yeah? strange, i never heard that12:59
ksaldyson2: i have gf4, restricted drivers from repo and everything works well13:00
ksalhowever, i don't enable compiz, to slow machine for that ;)13:00
dyson2ok, reverted drivers13:01
dyson2lets have a reboot13:01
dyson2and i`ll get back to you13:01
dyson2thanks so far13:01
WaltzingAlong!nvidia13:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:01
ksalWaltzingAlong: too late :p13:01
ksali hope it won't crash his sys :p13:02
PilotSo I tried to install JRE through adept and it crashed.  Now trying to reload it says another app is using it.  If I click Yes to the prompt, adept crashes again.  Aside from rebooting, is there another way to fix this?  ps aux  doesnt seem to show any processes13:08
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dysonXhttp://pastebin.com/d4c81e07613:15
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chillmannhi there13:33
chillmannI'13:33
ciperloneyey13:34
chillmannI've got a problem with my Alt-Tab and Alt-F5 behaviour in KDE. Alt+Something seems to work only on the desktop but not when an application has the focus. any idea?13:34
chillmannactually this is also true for alt-F4 etc..13:35
ciperlonefif you check on the kde shortcuts?13:36
chillmannxev shows Alt key is definetely working and I can also assign Alt-Tab to "cycle through windows" in KDE system settings. however, as soon as an application has the focus, it's not working13:36
chillmannciperlone: yep, those are set up correctly13:36
PilotCan anyone help me figure out why Firefox doesnt want to use my installed jre6?  Installed both via adept and via Sun's .bin download.13:36
ciperloneare you using compiz ou beryl?13:36
ciperloneore none of them?13:37
chillmannciperlone: actually I think I'm using Kwin. I just upgraded to gutsy.13:37
ciperlonehmm13:37
chillmannciperlone: yes, KWin13:37
ciperlonebecause if you are using compiz, it takes control of default kde shortcuts13:37
ciperlonei'm sorry, i cannot help you13:38
ciperloneunless you expecify the problem13:38
ciperlonebut i cannot promisse anything13:38
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chillmannciperlone: I just double-checked. Definitely no compiz. It's not even installed13:38
chillmannit's quite funny that it's only not working from the apps13:39
chillmannbut it's working on the desktop13:39
ciperloneWHICH apps?13:40
chillmannall13:40
chillmannlike when an application window has the focus, alt-f5 does nothing13:40
ciperloner u using kde?13:40
chillmannyes13:40
chillmannwhen on a desktop without any windows, alt-f5 shoes me a nice list of all windows in my KDE environment sorted by desktop13:41
chillmannas it should be...13:41
ciperlonedid you double check everything in the kde shortcut area?13:41
chillmannyep13:41
chillmannthe shortcuts are fine in general13:42
chillmannthe problem is that the system wide shortcuts are ignored in application windows13:42
chillmannthey only work when the desktop has the focus13:42
ciperlonethat's strange...13:42
Lynourechillmann: have you always had that problem, or did it start after one change or another?13:42
chillmannLynoure: it started after my upgrade to gutsy13:42
ciperlonemayke an sudo aptitude update will solve the problem13:43
chillmannciperlone: all packages are up to date13:43
ciperlonewell, i'm sorry but i cannot help. if i was a dev I will ask you to type some commands in the terminal, but since i'm not...13:44
chillmannciperlone: thanks anyway13:45
ciperloneyou're welcome :)13:46
Norgurhey, i got a problem with my german Microsoft keyboard13:46
Norguron this, the keys @ and / do not work with Kubuntu13:47
Norgurwhat is going wrong there?13:47
llutzNorgur: check kbd-layout in 7etc/X11/xorg.conf13:47
Norgurwhat shall i look for?13:48
llutzOption         "XkbModel" "pc105"13:49
llutzNorgur: then "Layout" and "Variant"13:49
somekoolhello, my french-canadian keybaord works in X, but not in KDE ??? Why would that be ???13:50
somekoolI do setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout ca -variant fr and it works in any WM but KDE .... I cannot believe this ...13:50
Lynouresomekool: do you have it similarly set up in the kde settings?13:50
somekoolyes13:51
somekoolI can do some accent but not all13:51
somekoolits like incomplete french keybaord13:51
somekoolwait I just discovered something13:51
somekoolI am in E17 at the moment, and the french keybaord works NICE in xterm but not in Konversation13:52
jembougesomekool, are there so many differences between your canadian-french keyboard and my french-french one?14:00
jembougecause mine works just perfectly14:00
Norgurin my xorg.conf there is the line   Option          "XkbOptions"    "lv3:ralt_switch" at the keyboard section14:02
Norgurwhat does it say?14:02
yaccinhow is it possible, that wlan works with ubuntu, but not with kubuntu?14:21
yaccin-_-14:21
somekooljembouge: many yes ;)14:24
yaccin:(14:24
Kachnahey guys, anyone can play .rm files in mplayer?14:24
spawn57man I wish compiz wouldn't crash a few times every bloody day14:25
somekoolNorgur: i dont have the XkbOptions14:25
WaltzingAlongspawn57: tis not crashing at all here (thanks kwin)14:25
spawn57yeah i'm using kwin atm ..I like compiz a lot though :(14:26
* somekool restarting X14:26
yaccinhow can i enable wlan in kubuntu, when it just works in ubuntu???14:27
jxxtkachna, i cant>>14:29
Kachnapretty bad :-( i can play sound only..using smplayer..cna play rm files in realplay, but can't get my subtitles working there :-14:30
Kachna(14:30
xciejajestpolak14:31
xcieja?14:32
yaccin_anyone?14:32
yaccin_wlan works now, but no wpa14:32
yaccin_(which worked in ubuntu/gnome just fine)14:32
antoCan somone help me fix my gtk widgets they are so dam ugly -> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/files/testgtk.png14:33
ctoniohola buenas14:33
Kachnak,so,anyone knows how to convert .rm to .avi? :P mpeg or so14:34
JackWinterwhat is the best way of filesharing between 2 kubuntu computers ?  nfs?14:34
JackWinteror maybe smb?14:34
antohttp://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder14:35
antoKachna: http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder14:35
Kachnaanto: cool,thx a lot ;)14:35
antoKachna: no problems it just took me 2 second on google with the correct keywords :P14:36
Kachnadamn thought I'm a good googler :P14:36
iceErahow do i add a network printer?14:37
antoKachna: how to search google is not to write a sentence but the key words in it14:37
Kachnai know :-)14:37
antolinux convert rm to avi14:37
antois what i used14:38
Kachnasimilar here...dunno exactly :P14:38
anto:P14:38
antoAnyone here that can help me with my gtk problem?14:38
Kachnahowever, i kinda work in company that aims for search engines optimisation,so i should learn that all :P14:39
antohaha okej :P14:39
asktoby_I note that gspca-source, the driver for my webcam, is in the repositories.14:41
asktoby_If I install it from there, how would I go about building it?14:41
asktoby_What is the benefit over just downloading the tarball from the dev's website?14:41
yaccin_how can i use wpa in kubuntu/kde when it worked un ubuntu/gnome?14:43
emilsedghasktoby_: you should compile it of you het the source.to compile it you need hundreds of -devel packages that have nothing for you14:44
emilsedghs/het/get14:45
somekoolI am trying to install the kde4rc1 packages on kubuntu but I am getting some error, few packages are missing or something...14:57
zarathAfter resizing an NTFS partition I get the following error: 'current ntfs volume size is bigger than the device size'. It cannot be mounted any more. It won't boot into WinXP either (but my Linux partition is fine). What tools can I use to try to fix the errors or recover some data?15:01
HizzleDo I need to format c: myself if I am to switch vista with kubuntu or is there a way I can do that with the cd?15:05
Hizzlec: = harddrive15:05
Radi01Hizzle: if all you are installing is ubuntu/chose full partition on installation.15:06
asktoby_emilsedgh: I understand that I will need to compile it - I guess my question is what is the benefit of installing source via apt rather than downloading a tarball?15:06
Hizzlehmm dont remember seeing that option on bootup15:07
Radi01Will it be the only o/s on the drive?15:07
Hizzleya15:07
Radi01Then when you get to partition click (manual/full) it will do the whole drive automatically/easy as pie.15:08
Hizzlenow the install update cd is that a cd I have to provide or is that something I can get offline? Just curious15:09
Radi01do the install od o/s first the rest can be done online.15:10
Radi01of15:10
jembougehi there, I installed kubuntu 7.10 and kdm is displaying this : http://jujufouq.free.fr/fichiers/kdm.jpg15:11
jembougeanyone can help?15:11
Radi01Just make sure your internet is functional when you install the o/s so it can read mirror info and see what you are doing /so it can make proper adjustments.15:11
pierrethWhat are you using to import CDs?15:12
Hizzlelol ya thats a good thing to do, glad I forgot15:12
Hamrajembouge: im sorry i cant be of much help, but this used to happen with me when i boot kubuntu on my boss' PC, never knew hot to solve it though!15:15
Hamrahow*15:15
pechanhey15:16
pechanayuda15:16
pechanalguien me ayude15:16
Xplicitare there any programs that can remote desktop connect to a vista machine (i mean the default vista service not installing vnc or another 3rd party)15:16
pechanporfavoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor15:16
Xplicit!es15:16
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.15:16
Radi01lol15:16
didomanquelqu'un peut me dire comment installer le comilateur gcc je l'ai telechargé avec l'adept mais rien a faire15:19
jembougeHamra: ya kdm (when working) is really cool, and that's great to advertise Linux to friends15:19
jembougedidoman: t'as juste téléchargé sans lui demander d'installer?15:20
didomanmais normalement il installe automatiquement15:20
jembougeHamra: did you find any ressource on the internet concerning that matter? cause I find nothing nowhere15:21
jembougedidoman: bah oui, d'où mon étonnement.15:21
jembougePerso, je n'utilise pas adept15:21
jembougeessaye par ligne de commande15:21
jembougeapt-get install ...15:22
jembougeou sinon (ce que j'utilise souvent) c'est synaptic15:22
didomanok merci jembouge15:22
jembougepas de koi15:22
smookeranyone know where is G++ after i install it ?15:23
smookeror how to start it15:24
smooker?15:24
somekooltype g++15:24
yaccinanyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/15:24
somekoolI have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/15:24
jembougesmooker: if you use synaptic, you can get that kind of info by selecting the package, right-click and properties15:25
yuanjinHello15:28
yuanjinAnyone here?15:29
Radi01Whats up.15:30
yuanjinI meet a problem when I installed a software, which called Cn3D.15:31
Hamrajembouge: i didnt even search, well, kdm is really cool, and it works fine on all of the PCs i've encountered so far, it's only my Boss' one, i'm not sure about this, but i think it's the LCD, since my PC has the same exact hardware except the monitor!15:31
yaccinanyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/15:33
yuanjinIt always show me ¨core dumped¨ when I try to run the program15:33
smookerstil i cant start G++15:33
smookeri used adept to install15:33
yaccinsmooker: sudo apt-get install build-essential15:33
yuanjinCould anyone give me some advice?15:35
smookerthen what ?15:35
yaccinsmooker: to run g++ just use the command gcc15:35
smookergcc: no input files15:36
yaccinman gcc15:37
yaccinwhat are you trying to do?15:37
Radi01yuanjin: tru #ubuntu15:37
jembougeHamra: I used to use debian with KDE and KDM, also tried Mandriva (and Mandrake before) and other distros, and I never had this problem before15:37
Radi01try15:37
yaccinanyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/15:38
jembougeHamra: I'm wondering whether this isn't because of the X11 server...15:38
jembougeHamra: the background picture is set to scale to fit the screen15:38
jembougeHamra: (this is what I think I found in a file)15:38
smookerk15:38
smookerbut Gcc doesnt want to start15:39
niko_hi to all15:39
jembougeHamra: Everywhere I can read, the text size is properly defined and set to something small.15:39
niko_i need help to correctly install compiz15:39
niko_fusion15:39
yaccinsmooker: what are you trying to do?15:39
jembougeHamra: thanks for your help, I'll go on digging15:40
Hamrajembouge: sorry for not being so helpful15:40
smookerto start the compiler GCC15:40
yaccinsmooker: what do you want to compile?15:41
Radi01http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35819315:41
Radi01G++15:41
jembougeHamra: no problem, I'm not very helpful either you know :p  Good to try. Anyway, atm I just bypass KDM with automatic logon.15:42
jhutchins!build | smooker15:42
ubotusmooker: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)15:42
somekoolI have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/15:42
yaccinsmooker: gcc youryourcode.cpp15:42
somekoolI have dependency problem with ubuntu since I tried installing KDE4 .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/15:42
jhutchinssomekool: No need to repeat yourself.  KDE4 is not a stable release.15:42
jembougeHamra: I just need KDM to show off to my friends who are still running non-open-source software.15:43
niko_no one can help me?15:43
Radi01about what.15:43
niko_compiz fusion15:43
jembougeniko_ : installing the packages is quite easy, but I didn't find where to go to activate it... sorry15:43
Radi01not work or what15:43
jembougeI'd be interested in it btw if someone could tell15:44
Radi01compriz config from synapt15:44
jhutchinsniko_: #compiz15:44
magical_trevskyhi, does anyone know why audiocd:/ in konqueror doesn't seem to have a flac folder anymore in gutsy?15:46
somekooljhutchins: that's right. but now I cannot install anything anymore. its like apt-get is broken...15:46
jhutchins!aptfix | somekool15:47
ubotusomekool: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:47
niko_i'm back15:47
niko_compiz needs Xgl?15:47
yaccinanyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/15:48
smookeris there any other good program like compiz ?15:48
yaccinsmooker: yes, you can also use vista or leopard15:48
Radi01leopard is macs version of vista...not good.15:49
jembougehey yaccin you're not talking linux software15:49
smookervista and leopard are os's i think15:49
jembougeindeed15:49
yaccinjembouge: :P15:49
jembougethere's something called "mesa" or so15:49
niko_some one can help me with compiz fusion?15:49
jembouge:p15:49
niko_i'm on kubuntu15:49
niko_7.115:49
yuanjinme too15:49
tarindoes anyone else have trouble starting konversation in gutsy?15:50
jembougeno15:50
yaccinniko_: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-* compizconfig-settings-manager15:50
jembougetarin: never got any pb with Konversation15:50
yuanjineither15:50
Blissexsmooker: Beryl and Matisse and Looking Glass and a few others.15:50
yaccintarin: no15:50
niko_i've done15:50
niko_before reformatting all15:50
yaccini only have problems with WPA, which worked fine when i used gnome o.O15:50
yuanjinI had tried that before15:50
smookerwhere do i get Beryl ?15:51
tarinhmmmm15:51
jembougeyaccin: I did that too, but I can't find the way to actually activate it15:51
Radi01beryl is not supported its now compriz15:51
[ifr0g]Hi, Whats the reason be hide the windows boot phenomena for wireless card power ups ?15:51
yaccinalt + F2 > "compiz --replace"15:51
somekooljhutchins: did not work15:51
Blissexsmooker: Google it -- but it is getting merged with Compiz actually.15:51
niko_but i know15:51
smookerso i dont have to uninstal compiz ?15:51
yaccinsmooker: compiz + beryl = compiz fusion15:52
yaccinthey merged15:52
yaccinif you have compiz then you have compiz fusion15:52
niko_yaccin15:52
smookerive just installed fustion plugins from apt15:53
Hamrahi, in display manager, when i press the test button, if everything went ok, what am i supposed to see? what happens? coz im not sure if things are right with me.15:53
sparr_many hard drives used to store particular types of files.  one for music, one for movies, etc.  I want to access their contents (nice directory hierarchies) as if they were subdirectories of one location.  I tried symlinks, but they fail when relative paths go above the symlinked structure.  Is there any better way short of actually mounting the driives where I want to access them?15:55
jhutchinssparr_: Why wouldn't you do  exactly that?15:56
sparr_jhutchins: because mounting things at random points in the filesystem seems like bad form, especially when they are already mounted elsewhere.  also because it would require moving things to the top level of the drives, instead of having the same base hierarchy on some of them15:57
jhutchinsOk, so you need to effectively mount a subdirectory of the drive in a filesystem.15:58
jhutchinssparr_: Read up on the docs for the mount command, this can be done.15:58
sparr_mount --bind ?15:58
sparr_also, it will pollute my mtab15:59
flakewhat is that bar at the bottom of the pic called, like from what package?  http://linuxappfinder.com/screenshot_viewer/all/1875_avast_update16:00
Hamranow that you mentioned mounting, how can i mount a CD image?16:00
sparr_Hamra: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/iso16:00
sparr_after mkdir /media/iso16:00
sparr_and with sudo  :)16:00
niko_i'm in trouble with fstab16:03
niko_it doesn't male me write16:03
niko_make16:03
niko_UUID=E498-244C  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       116:04
Hamrathnx  sparr_16:04
niko_is correct?16:04
sparr_that UUID seems short16:05
yaccinanyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/16:06
maduserwhat kind of wirells card do you have?16:06
smookerguys how do u get working the compizfusion Animations ?16:07
Radi01https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo16:07
yaccinmaduser: an usb stick16:07
yaccinRadi01: i tried that16:07
madusernever mind16:07
yaccinin gnome its just plug and play and it works with wpa16:07
maduseri only know how to fix broadcom16:07
yaccinon kde i plug it in and it only works without encryption16:08
maduseryou might have to google it16:08
Radi01ya16:08
Radi01http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2183216:10
Radi01encryption in kde16:10
LynoureRadi01: knetwork-manager does those too...16:12
Radi01I didn't know/Just googling with common sense with app application.16:13
yaccinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu << doesnt work16:13
Radi01Google your (problem).16:14
yaccini did16:14
yaccinthats the best thing i found16:14
madusertheres better16:14
Radi01butter?16:15
Lynoureyaccin: Tell me what happens instead of working?16:15
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yaccinLynoure: it works but only without encryption16:16
yaccinwhen i switch to gnome encryption (WPA) works16:16
Lynoureyaccin: you still see the encrypted wifis?16:16
yaccinyes16:16
Paddy_EIREhey guys... what is a good mail notifier daemon for kde?.. I'm used to cgmail on gnome if this will work fine in kde then great otherwise let me know of anything that comes highly recommended..16:16
LynoureBut cannot connect to them?16:16
yaccinand i have to enter the password16:16
yaccinand then it stops at ~28%16:16
Paddy_EIREhey Lynoure16:17
Radi01I never used wireless/but isn't there simple on and off settings?16:17
Lynoureyaccin: tried restarting knetworkmanager already?16:17
yaccinLynoure: i also tried rebooting16:17
stdinPaddy_EIRE: something like "kcheckgmail - KDE systray application to check GMail accounts" ?16:18
Paddy_EIREthanks man16:18
Lynoureyaccin: interfaces commented out from /etc/network/interfaces?16:18
Radi01good point16:19
yaccinLynoure: i am currently online using wlan...16:20
yaccinbut its not encrypted16:20
yaccini can only use WPA when im in gnome16:20
Lynoureyaccin: different wlan, then?16:20
yaccinLynoure: no :)16:21
yaccini have a fonero router16:21
Radi01log time16:21
yaccinit has 2 channels16:21
yaccin1 with WPA and a Free, unencrypted one16:21
yaccinboth work in gnome16:21
yaccinbut when i switch to kde the WPA channel doesnt work16:21
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Radi01How goes it Hizzle.16:21
Hizzlegot it up and running just figuring stuff out16:22
Radi01nice16:22
Hizzlechatting off konversation was trying to download xchat but dont understand the whole rpm thing16:22
Hizzle.rpm*16:22
remotechief_311How can I create a link to trash?16:23
Lynoureyaccin: I can tell you that wifi wpa works for me in kubuntu under knetwork-manager... but I think it took commenting out those interfaces16:23
yaccinHizzle: rpm?16:23
yaccinLynoure: but why do the then work in gnome?16:23
yaccinand where do i have to comment it out?16:23
yaccinand... well am i not currently using the interface=16:24
HizzleI clicked download xchat for fedora because it was only linux download there and has a bunch of .rpm files there16:24
yaccin?16:24
Lynoureyaccin: I don't use gnome, I can just tell it works for me...16:24
Radi01Hizzle get it fro add/remove to make it simple.16:24
Radi01from16:24
yaccinLynoure: where would i have to comment them out?16:25
Radi01Pidgin is simple  and easy to use for beginners of ubuntu.16:25
Lynoureyaccin: well,  if your /etc/network/intefaces no longer has other interfaces that loopback, that part is fine :)16:25
remotechief_311trash:/ , is that right?16:25
yaccinLynoure: it has eht0 (normnal network) and eth1 (wlan)16:25
yaccinand i am in this chat using wlan16:25
yaccini removed the network cable :)16:25
soulriderhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3878146#post3878146 if someone knows please answer16:26
Lynoureyaccin: Sometimes you need to break a little to fix a little, try commenting at least eth1 out, and restarting networkmanager (or just rebooting). If it does not help, you can easily uncomment them again16:27
yaccinbut i want to easily switch between wireless and wired network :/16:27
jembougeremotechief_311: link to trash is   "trash:/"       :)16:27
Lynoureyaccin: then comment out both16:27
Lynoureyaccin: knetwork-manager deals with that automatically then16:28
remotechief_311jembouge: ok, thanks16:28
yaccinLynoure: i wouldnt have any network then? o.O16:28
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Hamrahow can i make numlock to be "on" on startup?16:29
Lynoureyaccin: Yes, you would. It just cannot configure interfaces that are already defined16:29
yaccinhmm ok ill try taht16:29
Lynoureyaccin: and see what I said about uncommenting16:29
Radi01Lynoure: Thanks.16:30
Radi01I am lost there.16:30
jembougeremotechief_311 there's another (and better) way though16:30
LynoureRadi01: hmm?16:30
jembougehave a look at http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/16:30
jembougeprobably doesn't work somewhere else but on the desktop16:31
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Radi01I am just learning linux/It appears that linix is more logical than bill gates.16:32
Radi01apt-get uninstall./bill gates.16:32
emilsedghhehe16:32
vincent__^^16:33
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yaccinapt-get remove16:33
yaccinnot uninstall16:33
yaccin:P16:33
LynoureRadi01: I would not bet on it, always :)16:33
Radi01Agreed/but when the linux community (and it is) catches up/bill will be wearing a sign/will work for bytes.16:34
RurouniJonesNot in this lifetime16:35
RurouniJonesMuch as it would make me laugh to watch16:35
Radi01Interesting , leaopard is vista in mac form...16:38
Radi01total trash16:38
Radi01google it.16:39
Lynoureyaccin: you could also try connecting to your wpa trough "connect to other wireless network" and filling in the details.16:44
jembougehi again, anyone know why I have that file "debian_version" with the line "lenny/sid" in it although I was installing GutsyGibbon?16:45
stdinjembouge: it's just a remnant, Kubuntu us derived from Debian16:46
stdins/us/is/16:46
viajadorHi there! I'm having a charset issue with an external drive. It doesn't recognize symbols like "à" or "õ"16:49
viajadorCan someone help me with this?16:49
Lynoureviajador: what filesystem does it have?16:50
viajadorntfs16:50
jembougeoh ok thanks stdin (I should have remembered I saw Lenny when running debian - but I ran the last one which isn't if I'm not mistaking)16:50
viajadorBut i have the same FS in my windows partition and everything works there!16:50
Hamrai have a problem similar to viajador's problem, i have a cd with files having arabic names, i see them as dashes16:56
Paddy_EIRE!touchpad16:57
ubotuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad16:57
Hizzletrying to install xchat is kinda hard since I dont really know what I am doing, it downloads as a .rpm file and I tried using the add/remove programs but it dont show up under search16:59
Hamrawhy do most companies use rpm? isnt debian more widespread? or maybe rpm packages are easier to build?17:00
LynoureHizzle: Why would you install xchat from a .rpm?17:01
HizzleI dont know17:01
Hizzleit says download xchat and has linux and windows link17:01
HizzleI hit linux17:02
LynoureCertainly there is one natively for ubuntu, too.17:02
Radi01Hizzle is new?he needs simple walk throughs.17:02
Hizzleand all there are is .rpm's17:02
Hizzleya I am a noob sorry need to get a linux book17:02
LynoureHizzle: try   sudo aptitude install xchat    instead17:02
Radi01Hizzle: in terminal type    sudo apt-get update    come back with report17:02
LynoureHizzle: it's ok, everything new takes its time17:03
stdintip: don't paste anything longer than 2-3 lines here, use pastebin instead17:03
HizzleRadi01: msged you with results so I dont flood channel17:04
Radi01dpkg --configure -a17:05
stdinsudo ^17:06
Radi01sudo dpkg --configure -a17:06
Radi01thx17:06
Cannoliguys17:07
Radi01@ the prompt enter (y) and ...enjoy.17:07
Cannolii need major help17:07
LynoureCannoli: Ask away17:08
didomanhow to edit the contain of LD_LIBRARY_PATH ???17:08
Cannolii installed the ati drvier for kubuntu and now when i boot up my computer the first version of linux shows a blank screen and the second version of linux has a giant black bar covering most of the left side17:08
Cannolishould i get rid of the driver? or what do i do now?17:08
stdindidoman: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/you/want:/another/path/you/want"17:08
HizzleRadi01: what should I try next?17:09
BluesKajHowdy folks17:09
Radi01did you   sudo dpkg --configure -a       ?17:09
MementoMorihi17:09
MementoMoriwhere sudo/kdesudo commands are logged?17:09
BluesKajalmost snowed in here17:09
Radi01hizzle17:10
Hizzleya just did it sorry missed that msg up there but this is what I got17:10
HizzleIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main T                                                                                                   ranslation-en_US17:10
HizzleIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restri                                                                                                   cted Translation-en_US17:10
HizzleE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                                                                                   able)17:10
HizzleE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                                                                   ess using it?17:10
Radi01oi17:10
Hizzledamn sorry17:10
Hizzleone sec17:10
Hizzledpkg: status database area is locked by another process17:11
Hizzlestill used to ctrl+C for copy17:11
Radi01Hizzle17:11
Radi01lol17:12
BluesKaj!adeptfix | Hizzle17:12
ubotuHizzle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »17:12
Cannolianyone?17:12
stdinMementoMori: /var/log/auth.log search for "sudo:"17:12
Radi01do that Hizzle17:12
didomanstdin :can u rxecute this command for me "env | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH" plz17:12
stdindidoman: I don't have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set17:13
Radi01 sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a17:13
MementoMoristdin: thank you17:13
stdinCannoli: if it's not working, there's little else to do but remove it and/or switch to the "ati" driver17:13
Hizzlealright did that17:14
Cannoliok so how can i remove the ati driver from both versions of linux17:14
stdinCannoli: remove the package, or if you have gutsy use the restricted drivers manager17:15
Radi01try alt+f217:16
Radi01xchat17:16
asfakI cannot run 3d games on my kubuntu gutsy. I have installed nvidia legacy driver as usual. Restricted manager shows the driver in use. I get this message when i start some games from konsole "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'"17:16
Hizzlesays cannot run specified command17:17
Radi01try in terminal to see any possible errors17:17
stdinasfak: do you have "Load    "glx"" under "Section "Module"" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?17:17
Radi01xchat17:17
asfaklet me check17:18
asfakstdin, glx is already there in modules17:19
Hizzlesays that it is not installed and I can get it by typing sudo apt-get install xchat  which I did then it says  I need to get a program called universe b ut typed that command said different stuff it was doing then  said cannot find package xchat17:20
Hizzle(said I needed a program called universe before I typed the install command not afterwards)17:21
stdinasfak: and does "glxinfo |grep direct" show "direct rendering: Yes" ?17:21
MergiturHi, I followed the instructions for how to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. About halfway through I got an error involving kdepim and kmail not being able to upgrade, and eventually the entire upgrade shut down. Is there any easy way for me to get the upgrade working or will I have to do a reinstall to get to 7.10?17:21
asfakno,17:21
jhutchinsHizzle: I don't think universe is a program, I think it's a repository.17:21
MementoMoriIn my kubuntu I have 62 groups. Most of them are system groups. Where can I find their meaning and what are supposed to do?17:21
Hizzleya says I need to enable the component17:22
stdinasfak: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin then please17:22
jhutchins!repos | Hizzle17:22
ubotuHizzle: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu17:22
[GuS]schusselkopp: ?17:22
Radi01in add/remove...click at the top (all).17:22
sylvain-frhi all17:22
MementoMori!groups17:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:22
sylvain-frcan someone help me please ?17:23
asfakstdin, i am new to IRC, can u please help, how to post to pastebin ?17:23
Radi01then click internet and click xchat17:23
sylvain-frmy question is about filesystems17:23
stdin!paste | asfak17:23
ubotuasfak: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:23
HizzleI dont see anything an all button17:23
jhutchinsMementoMori: Start here: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/17:23
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MementoMorijhutchins: thank you17:24
sylvain-frIs there any File System which both Linux and BSD can read and write ?17:24
jhutchinsHizzle: When ubotu refers you to a web page it's because the answer to your question is too complex to post here easily.  You should at least skim the web page before proceeding.17:24
stdinsylvain-fr: can't bsd write to ext2/3 ?17:25
Radi01@ the top you will see. anysuite..click it and click (all)17:25
jhutchinssylvain-fr: There are few if any that they both can not read and write.17:25
asfakstdin, i am on very slow dial-up network, so i will take time. ...17:25
sylvain-frok, thanks17:25
Hizzlejhutchins: I am trying to do that at the same time listening to radi0117:26
sylvain-frso Linux and BSD can read and write ext317:26
HizzleI just get KDE and GNOME nothing else besides anysuite17:26
Radi01no arrow with it?17:26
sylvain-frand what about BSD's default FS ? Can I install BSD on an ext3 FS ?17:27
asfakstdin , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46589/17:27
stdinsylvain-fr: it's best to ask that in a BSD channel, I'd assume that it can17:27
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Hizzlethere is an arrow next to it but just KDE and GNOME for options17:27
Radi01oi I have no idea then  never encountered that one..sry.17:28
sylvain-fris there a BSD chan here ?17:28
Hizzlelol its np thanks for helping me this far17:28
Radi01try re-booting since you changed registry17:28
Hizzlek will try that17:28
stdinsylvain-fr: what variant of BSD?17:28
sylvain-frFreeBSD17:29
* seelenschmerz ist jetzt AWAY (grund: bin mal etwas tv schauen ......ist eh nirgends was los ...........)17:29
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stdinsylvain-fr: ##freebsd17:29
stdin!away > seele|afk17:29
sylvain-frthanks17:29
asfakstdin, did u see my xorg ?17:30
sylvain-fr?? when I try yo join, I get this message : "[Canal] You need to be identified to join that channel"17:30
stdinasfak: I'm looking at it17:30
ksalhi17:30
ksalmy HP deskjet 3325 doesn't want to work on mu gutsy17:30
ksalmy*17:30
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stdin!resister | sylvain-fr, follow these instructions17:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resister - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:30
stdinbah17:31
sylvain-fr!resister17:31
ksalsystem can't even find it.17:31
stdin!register | sylvain-fr, follow these instructions17:31
ubotusylvain-fr, follow these instructions: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration17:31
ksalcan someone help me?17:31
ksali had no problem on fedora17:31
stdinasfak: changing it to this should work hopefully http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46591/17:32
asfakok17:32
sylvain-frerf17:32
ksalkubuntu is known of great ability to find any device and automatically configure it. what's with that printer then?17:32
sylvain-frthank you17:32
stdin!print | ksal17:32
ubotuksal: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows17:32
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=== Miraculix is now known as tommy_
MementoMorijhutchins: thank you for your previous link but it does not explain at all linux system groups17:34
sylvain-frthank you stdin17:35
sylvain-frbye17:35
stdinbye17:35
emilsedghaah17:35
Radi01stdin: sorry about the hard time I gave you earlier.17:36
jhutchinsMementoMori: You can't have read it all yet.17:37
jhutchinsMementoMori: Besides, there's more.17:37
ksalgeez17:37
ksalit doesn't help me!17:37
ksalstdin: i have everything installed17:37
jhutchinsMementoMori: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/ch-acctsgrps.html17:37
jhutchinsMementoMori: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/ch-acctsgrps.html17:38
stdinwow, power went "poof" for a sec :p17:38
jhutchins(woops)17:38
jhutchinsMementoMori: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-users.html17:38
Radi01 stdin: sorry about the hard time I gave you earlier.17:38
stdinRadi01: did you?17:39
Radi01k17:39
stdinreally, I don't remember :p17:39
jhutchinsMementoMori: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/news/linuxanatomy_0101.html17:39
Radi01The upside down text?17:39
jhutchinsksal: go to the cups web page and look for your printer model to see if it is supported.17:40
stdinRadi01: I remember the upside-down text, just not the "hard time"17:40
tiezziciao a tutti17:40
stdin!it17:40
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!17:40
ksaljhutchins: geez, it is supported!17:40
ksalyou won't help me, bye17:41
MementoMorijhutchins: I read the relevant parts (searching for groups I havent read the filsystem chapter). but thank you for that list!17:41
jhutchinsksal: k, no problem then.17:41
SoulChildHI ALL! How must i configure grub to load vista from my extended device /dev/sda5 ???17:41
sigma_how do i share a gprs internet connection in kubuntu? from my pc to others on the network17:41
maduservista as defult?17:41
sigma_windows had a simple sharing dialog, don't see that anywhere in kubuntu17:42
jhutchinsMementoMori: RedHat made it a standard to have each user be primarily a member of his own group.  Other systems have them be members of "users" or something like that.  Many programs use groups for cross-program access (ie a program running as a member of the apache group has access to web pages).17:42
jhutchinsMementoMori: There are also "traditional" groups that are holdovers from multi-user Unix mainframes.  They're all included so that programs will be more portable.17:43
Marcheseciao17:43
jhutchinsMementoMori: Usually system groups will have a GID of less than 500.17:43
jhutchinsMementoMori: Depending on the system, for some it's 100, for others 1000.17:43
warren_hello17:44
warren_i need some help17:44
trillisHey everyone...17:44
trillisHaha, me too.17:44
warren_i installed wine from source but it was buggy17:44
stdinsigma_: the way I did it a while ago was to install firestarter and use that to set it up17:44
warren_and now i would like to remove itr17:44
warren_but17:44
warren_i don't have the source anymore, i removed manually files17:44
Radi01hey trillis how did kopete work out.17:44
trillissux0rz.17:44
Radi01oi17:44
sigma_warren: use the ubuntu deb if you want to install wine17:44
warren_and now when installing a deb package of it it doesn't work17:44
trillisCouldn't get it to load the AIM info, got everything else to work though.17:45
warren_yeah i know17:45
warren_but i didn't do it17:45
sigma_stdin: is firestarter available in the ubuntu repo's?17:45
Radi01Interesting.17:45
stdinsigma_: yeah17:45
trillisHey stdin: Is there a way to make mplayer not have the white sides when watching a widescreen movie?17:45
MementoMorijhutchins: the info I'm looking for is: a user in the x group can do this this and this, a user in the y group can do this and that17:46
stdintrillis: never seen that, shows a black border for me17:46
Radi01trillis: vlc does the rest do not.17:46
trillis:(17:46
trillisI have an ati graphics card, could that be the problem?17:46
Radi01mozilla vlc plugin17:46
jhutchinsMementoMori: Linux can also use acl's.17:46
stdintrillis: you can try using the "-aspect" and "-monitoraspect" options17:46
Radi01no17:46
trillissudo apt-get install vlc-mozzila-plugin?17:46
Radi01ya17:46
Radi01i tried aspect..dont work17:46
Radi01aspect also screwed up x..17:47
stdintrillis: it's best to remove mozilla-mplayer before installing another plugin17:47
MementoMorijhutchins: for example: the first user created in the gusty installation is in admin and adm groups. What privileges gives adm to me?17:47
sigma_stdin: thanks il take a look, hope it works! i think that should be a applet in kubuntu that caters for file-sharing17:47
jhutchinsRadi01: The options on mplayer are pretty complex (and very extensive), but just switching to vlc might be easier.17:47
Radi01good point..sry17:47
jhutchinsMementoMori: For one thing the ability to use sudo.17:48
Radi01exactly17:48
trillisk...17:48
stdinsigma_: there is an applet for file sharing17:48
trillisSo.. sudo apt-get uninstall mplayer?17:48
jhutchinsMementoMori: In other distros that might be configured for the group "wheel".17:48
sigma_stdin: but it doesn't cater for internet sharing or does it?17:48
stdintrillis: mozilla-mplayer17:48
trillisk17:48
MementoMorijhutchins: but for the use of sudo I have to be in the admin group not in adm17:48
stdinsigma_: internet connection sharing isn't the same as file sharing17:48
jhutchinsMementoMori: Thousands of programs, millions of programmers, a hundred different ways to do just about anything.17:49
MementoMori$ sudo grep "%adm" /etc/sudoers17:49
MementoMori%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL17:49
stdinsigma_: to share your internet connection you need to change/create some iptables rules, firestarter is a nice GUI for it17:49
trillisuninstall doesn't seem to be a command...17:49
stdintrillis: remove :)17:50
Radi01I dont know the -r command17:50
sigma_stdin: ya i read about the iptables stuff, didn't have a clue what those guys were going on about17:50
trillisheheh17:50
MementoMorijhutchins: ok but maybe I should check the LSB doc for a stardard view about groups...17:50
MementoMorishouldnt I?17:50
stdinsigma_: it's all extremely complicated :p17:50
trillisstdin: You should rename to 'God".17:50
Radi01hahaha17:50
jhutchinstrillis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto17:51
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stdintrillis: nah, I don't want the attention ;)17:51
jhutchinssigma_:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/17:51
pidzamhi all17:51
sigma_stdin: so thats how microsoft made so much cash :)17:52
BluesKajstdin, how about linuxgod ?  :)17:52
stdinBluesKaj: even worse :p17:52
BluesKaj; )17:52
trillisI want "sudo apt-get install vlc-mozilla-plugin?17:52
stdinuse linux for >10 years and you'll probably know as mush as me :)17:52
Radi01Linux/gooru/god/dont ask again/   lol17:52
MementoMorijhutchins: by default I'm in adm dip video plugdev netdev powerdev groups and I dont know why... I only want to get this knowledge17:53
Radi01mozilla-vlc-plugin17:53
trillisah17:53
Mergituris there any wasy way to see if I've successfully upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 from 7.04? I had the upgrade process crash on me earlier about halfway through. I think I've got it now, but I'm not sure.17:53
trillisIt still said no to me :()17:53
trillis:(17:54
Radi01I've been up 16 hrs tired.17:54
asfakstdin, thanks for the help, but nothing helps. i get this message17:54
asfakasfak@asfakpc:~$ neverball17:54
asfakneverball: Couldn't find matching GLX visual17:54
asfakSegmentation fault (core dumped)17:54
stdin!version | Mergitur17:54
ubotuMergitur: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell17:54
Radi01system adept.....mozilla vlc plugin17:54
trillisheheh17:54
[[Charlie]]!shell17:54
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal17:54
[[Charlie]]!bash17:54
trillis!stdin17:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stdin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:54
trillisAwe...17:54
stdinasfak: not a clue on that one, try asking on their forum (if they have one)17:55
stdinthe bot does know me, he's just keeping it on the down-low17:55
Mergiturstdin: yes, but it claimed that I was running 7.10 immediatelly after the upgrade process had crashed.17:55
trillisHow come sometimes Adept manager won't load for me?17:55
asfakthanks17:55
Radi01no it didnt17:56
stdinMergitur: if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and nothing installs, then you should be at gutsy17:56
pidzamhehe17:57
trillisIs there anyway to make my Linux look cool?17:57
Mergiturstdin: ah, alright. I did that and nothing installs. I guess I'm good then. Thanks17:57
trillisSkins?17:57
stdin!theme17:57
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy17:57
Radi01sudo apt-get look cool17:57
llutztrillis: remove X17:57
trillisWhat's x?17:57
stdin!X17:57
LjL!x17:57
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto17:57
xoqa'ello, installed some icons through apt, but they aren't showing up in the control center, any reason why this may be so?17:59
trillisadept manager didn't find anything for 'mozilla vlc plugin'.17:59
stdin!info mozilla-plugin-vlc17:59
Radi01U have to scroll to mozilla to find it17:59
ubotumozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 144 kB17:59
RxDxplease, how can i install KDE4 on my Gutsy?18:00
Radi01beg18:00
Radi01j/k18:00
Radi01it is in repro18:01
trillisoh.. the vlc is last..18:01
Radi01D1oh!18:01
Radi01hey trillis: U on kde or text18:02
trilliskde18:02
Radi01k18:02
MementoMoriMementoMori:18:02
trillisIt's installing.18:02
MementoMori!repos | MementoMori18:02
trillisWhat's a good kde skin?18:02
Radi01nice  U will like it..when the display says (no video) its loading18:03
stdintrillis: search, try, repeat18:03
nosrednaekim!themes18:03
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy18:03
MergiturRxDx: there are instructions from the frontpage of kubuntu.org18:04
Radi01kde-look.org is cool.18:04
rick_Hello, I'm using kubuntu. How do I change my display mode?18:04
Radi01mode?18:05
rick_screen resalution18:05
RxDxMergitur, thanks :)18:05
trillisSystem Settings18:05
trillis>Display18:05
rick_I looked under system settings18:05
Radi01system settings/monitor and display18:05
trillisI don't have a monitor icon on my system settings...18:06
jalbertHey all18:06
jalbertI'm experiencing a weird bug here18:06
Radi01trillis:I have 1 for sale.18:06
|TroubleMaker|when partitioning a slave drive from the command line the command should look like: "$ parted -i hdb mkpart primary ext2 0 4000" right? for aprox 4 gig ext 2 partition???? or should i use another command?18:06
rick_there is no monitor and display under settings18:07
Radi01U have kde?18:07
jalbertwhenever I load a website that has a Flash applet embedded, my keyboard stops working18:07
ubuntuneed help with Kubuntu pendrive making settings persistent, any takers??18:07
rick_I'm using the kde version of ubunto. Does that matter?18:07
stdin|TroubleMaker|: you can use qtparted for a GUI18:07
nosrednaekimrick_: make sure you have the package "kubuntu-desktop" and all of its dependencies18:07
Radi01it should be there18:07
rick_can it be installed as a package?18:08
trillisRadi01: Heheh, you have an icon for sale?18:08
Radi01ya lol18:08
|TroubleMaker|stdin, *sigh* yes i know but this is for my linux class and im looking to verify i understood the man page right..... we are supposed to be working from CLI but i dont have a second drive to mess with.18:08
stdinrick_: you should have something that looks like http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1528/systemsettingstw5.png18:08
ubuntuHow to I ge the pen drive to list the kernels, It always goes straight into the live mode where I can't save any settings.18:09
nosrednaekimubuntu: never done a persistent, but as soon as the bios exits hit "esc" until you see the grub kernel list (or boot up starts, which it shouldn;t)18:11
rick_nos_ how do I install or know if the kubuntu-desktop is installed?18:11
Cem_UNALhi folks18:11
Cem_UNALi am upgrading to 8.0418:11
stdin|TroubleMaker|: besides the fact you're missing "/dev/"  before hdb, yeah, that should make a primary partition of about 2gb at the start of /dev/hdb18:11
Cem_UNALis it kde4?18:11
stdin*4gb18:11
stdinCem_UNAL: no18:11
llutzrick_: apt-cache policy  kubuntu-desktop18:12
|TroubleMaker|stdin thanks man, without a drive to play with i feel a little handicapped on this topic...no experimentation to veirfy my understanding18:12
stdinCem_UNAL: and why in the world are you upgrading to 8.04 ?18:12
Cem_UNALstdin: tx18:12
|TroubleMaker|its a online class18:12
jobbehey, is there a nice way to tell the display manager (in my case kdm) to use a different Xorg server than the one installed by kubuntu? I compiled a more recent version which lives in /opt/xorg/bin18:12
nosrednaekimrick_: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"18:13
stdin|TroubleMaker|: a small usb pen drive would work just as well (if you have one), adjusting the size ofcourse18:13
ubuntuit stop and I get the options f1 -f10  and if I pick anything like rescue mode, it can't find the kernel. IT does the memtest alright. Maybe I need to take a close look at the grub.conf18:13
trillissudo apt-get remove hardrive? :-D18:14
nosrednaekimubuntu: yeah, probably.18:14
|TroubleMaker|stdin, good idea maybe i can lay hands on one later today =)18:14
Cem_UNALstdin: curiosity :)18:14
Cem_UNALonly curiosity18:14
stdinCem_UNAL: as long as you remember it most likely *will* break, a lot. and it's not supported in here...18:15
rick_nos_ I found the setting and it worked fine, thanks!18:15
nosrednaekimrick_: great!18:15
Cem_UNALstdin: my machine is not important it is ony desktop machine18:15
stdinjobbe: replace "ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br" with "ServerCmd=/opt/xorg/bin -br" in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc18:15
didomanhow to edit perl local settings?18:15
jobbeok thanks alot :)18:15
* Cem_UNAL ./upgrade complete && tx && bye18:16
jobbethat's what I was looking for18:16
* Cem_UNAL reboot18:16
stdinjobbe: erm, "ServerCmd=/opt/xorg/bin/X -br" rather (forgot the 'X')18:16
* trillis ponders how to install a theme...18:16
stdin!changethemes | trillis18:17
ubotutrillis: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes18:17
didomanhow to edit perl local settings?18:17
stdin!repeat | didoman18:17
stdinwake up ubotu18:17
stdin!repeat18:17
ubotudidoman: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience18:17
* trillis pokes ubotu18:18
didomanok sory18:18
jobbecya soon (hopefully... :D)18:18
trillisstdin: The kubuntu link for eye candy said the page doesn't exist.18:18
stdintrillis: which one18:19
nosrednaekimhey stdin, you a member now?18:19
stdinnosrednaekim: yep :)18:19
HizzleJust figured out my sound card isn't working and been looking for a website for intel sound card drivers18:19
nosrednaekimstdin: congrats :D18:20
rothchildhi, does anyone know any easy way around doing this: http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=15618:20
Hizzleanyone know of any good help sites or driver sites?18:20
nosrednaekim!forums18:20
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.18:20
nosrednaekim!hardware18:20
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport18:20
trillisI hope I don't destroy my comp by 'sudo apt-get install dekorator'.18:20
rothchildall I want is to hear the audio on video from my phone18:20
nosrednaekimrothchild: wow... I didn't understand any of that. audio/video is ONE place I've never ventured :D18:22
trillisstdin: the one ubotu gave me.18:22
stdintrillis: which link exactly?18:23
jhutchinsHizzle: You probably want the alsa project page.18:24
jalbertI'm experiencing a weird bug here18:24
jalbertwhenever I load a website that has a Flash applet embedded, my keyboard stops working18:24
jalbertanybody ever hear of this bug?18:24
jhutchinsjalbert: What browser?18:24
nosrednaekimjalbert: search the non-flash part of google ;)18:25
gan|y|medhi18:25
nosrednaekimhi gan|y|med18:25
gan|y|medin kernel 2.6.23.1 does CFQ = CFS??18:25
MeggetWhen I run Ktorrent, It works fine for a few minutes, and den I suddenly loose my internetconnection. Help anyone?18:26
killermachI have a PDA phone, and I want to convert some of my OGG files to MP3 to use on my phone, what should I install to convert ogg to mp3?18:26
nosrednaekimgan|y|med: well, the  2.6.23 does have a CFS, i'm not sure of CFQ is another name for it or not.18:26
gan|y|medi cannot find cfs in the config18:26
jalbertthis is Firefox 2.0 something18:26
trillis!themes18:26
nosrednaekim!convert18:26
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy18:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:26
nosrednaekimgan|y|med: try #linux18:26
jalbert2.0.0.1018:26
gan|y|medthx18:27
fitoria_hi I just installed compiz fusion and i cant put the cube effect just 2 desktops18:27
nosrednaekimMegget: losing your internet is a natural by-product of bit-torrenting ;)18:27
jalbertthe non-flash part of google?18:27
nosrednaekimjalbert: a joke... sorry, twas bad :D18:27
gan|y|medwhat an obvious, but eternally useful hint. why didn't i get the idea :)18:27
stdinfitoria_: #compiz-fusion is the place for compiz support18:27
fitoria_thanks18:27
BluesKajkillermach, soundKonverter18:28
nosrednaekimfitoria_: BTW, its in "general settings->desktop size-> horizaontal desktop size" within ccsm18:28
nosrednaekimgan|y|med: I don't think many of is here recompile the kernel.... but over at #linux thats childs-play :D18:29
=== tburdick is now known as bfrog
rothchildnosrednaekim did you look at http://www.3gpp.org/ it beggars belief! ;-o18:29
bfrogis there a guide on how to make src.deb's18:29
bfrogor whatever their called18:29
trillis!dekorator18:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dekorator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:29
nosrednaekimbfrog: create them, or install them?18:29
killermachBluesKaj: thanks..18:29
bfrogcreate18:29
trillis:-\18:29
bfrogI need to make my own packages18:29
stdin!packaging | bfrog18:30
ubotubfrog: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports18:30
=== h4ck3r0n3 is now known as The_Loller
The_Lollerho bisogno di un aiuto18:30
bfrogthanks18:30
BluesKajkillermach, ym :)18:30
stdin!it | The_Loller18:30
ubotuThe_Loller: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!18:30
BluesKajerr YW18:30
The_Lollero sorry18:30
BluesKajwell, gotta go clear some snow ...big storm here last night18:31
trillis!domino18:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about domino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:31
stdintrillis: you can /msg ubotu something    to see if ubotu has what you want18:32
iceEra"!Vlc exs"18:33
trillisI jsut want to install a theme :(18:33
trillisBut I have to download abunch of other programs apparently.18:33
Meggetnosrednaekim: okej :) Is there some other program I could use, like dc++?18:33
* genii sips a coffee18:33
iceErani18:33
iceErayou can just download what you need18:33
iceEra:)18:33
nosrednaekimMegget: I was just kidding... Ktorrent should not do that.18:33
stdintrillis: are you following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu  ?18:34
trillisEr.. hehe no.18:34
iceEraOr you can just create one your self18:34
iceEratrillis18:34
Meggetnosrednaekim: hehe, okej... any idea why it does that?18:34
nosrednaekimMegget: erm no, but I don't use Ktorrent either, so IDK.... could it be your ISP?18:35
trillisI tired, but I can't seem to make them look transparent and cool, and the bar at the bottom of my screen never changes colors.18:35
MeggetI don't know, hope I figure it out. Thank's anyway!18:35
Mergiturwhen I try to install kdm-kde4 I get an error (dpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure). Entire thing can be found at http://pastebin.com/d4f21ce3418:35
iceErahttp://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=4018:35
iceErathere you have a good site for Themes and stuff trillis18:36
trillisI just don't know how to install it.18:36
iceEra:p18:36
nosrednaekimMergitur: don't worry about it... kde4 still works18:37
nosrednaekimI get the same error18:37
harmentalhey guys...where does firefox store its bookmarks in kubuntu?18:37
nosrednaekimharmental: ~/.mozilla somwhere18:37
barberanhello18:38
nosrednaekimhey barberan18:38
barberanCould you advice a smallest ftp server under kununtu ?18:38
stdinMergitur: you don't need kdm-kde418:38
llutzbarberan: vsftpd18:38
stdin!ftpd18:38
ubotuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP18:39
nosrednaekimbarberan: I think kubuntu comes with a ftp server, dosn't it?18:39
barberanis it easy enough?18:39
stdinnosrednaekim: no, it has a small http server with the public file server applet though18:39
iceErawhat is the best program to use for downloading mp3 and stuff?18:39
barberanprobably i must write it by my self)18:39
NickPrestabarberan, proftpd is great and it has a GUI to configure, I believe (gproftp or something).18:39
stdiniceEra: the browser you legally bought it with18:40
trillisI downloaded a theme... Now what do I do?18:40
nosrednaekimtrillis: go into the theme manager and select "open theme"18:40
trillisWheres the theme manager?18:41
Radi01oi18:41
nosrednaekimsystem settings->appearance18:41
Radi01appearance18:41
iceEratrillis,18:42
trillisImport scheme?18:42
iceEralook in Personal message18:42
trillisYeah?18:42
iceEranooo18:42
trillisI don't see a pm..18:42
=== genii_ is now known as genii
Radi01its 13:43/pm18:43
SoulChildIf i enter "grub" and type ("setup (hd0)") i get "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition" !!!18:44
stdintrillis: try closing system settings, press Alt-F2 and type in "kcontrol" then go to "Appearance & Themes" > "Theme Manager"18:44
Radi01trillis register your nic to pvt18:45
trillisI just did.18:45
Radi01brb18:45
nosrednaekimSoulChild: shouldn't that be "setup (hd0,1)" if it wants a partition?18:46
stdinyou should do "root hd0,0" or similar first18:46
SoulChildnosrednaekim: no i want to install do MBA18:47
SoulChildstdin: i did18:47
stdinSoulChild: try just " grub-install "(hd0)" " from the bash command line18:48
iceErawhat is the best program to use for downloading mp3 and stuff?18:48
barberanwget18:49
barberan)18:49
trillisIs a .desktop a theme file?18:49
rothchildhow do I recompile ffmpeg to include amr support? I have the files for ffmpeg and 3gp but am not sure about the process from here18:49
iceEradont you have a .sh file?18:50
referiпривет всем18:51
stdin!ru18:51
ubotuПожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke18:51
referiздравствуйте убунтяне18:51
referi!ru18:51
Hamrais the version upgrade button in gutsy still the same bug? i havent seen it for some while18:51
trillisI thought my eyes broke when I saw the russian text...18:52
referiwhere is Russian users ?18:52
Stilois there a german channel for kubuntu?18:52
stdinreferi: /join #ubuntu-ru18:52
iceEraKubuntu.ru?18:52
referithanks18:52
stdin!de | Stilo18:52
ubotuStilo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de18:52
Stilothanks18:52
Paddy_EIREbesides it being blasphemy is there any negative reasons why not to run gnome apps in kde18:52
Paddy_EIREe.g. evolution18:53
stdinthey takes slightly longer to load at first18:53
bfrogdo I just apt-get install emerald and it'll work?18:53
bfrog!emerald18:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:53
=== jussi__ is now known as jussi01
referisudo apt-get install emerald18:58
referi!ubuntu19:01
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com19:01
hannes``!de19:04
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:04
Jabapythhow do i desable the default middle click behavior?19:05
hannes``i have problems with my knetwork manager.. there is no more list wich shows me the available wlan networks when i click on the icon19:06
trillisI take it I can't just download a theme, then extract the files, go to the theme manager and then install new theme, and expect there to be a file in there that will allow me install the theme easily... So... What will I have to do?19:06
hannes``Also i cant connect to my home network.. can anybody help me?19:06
xbehaveim using konversation how do i hide join/parts19:08
=== _3v1n0_ is now known as Trevinho
eduarddvd19:11
trillis!themes19:12
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:12
eduardoen español cual era?19:12
trillisspanish19:12
trillis!spanish19:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.19:12
eduardogracias19:13
trillisno prob heheh19:13
referi!russia19:14
ubotuПожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke19:14
referi!mevdev19:14
referi!ьумвум19:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mevdev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:14
referi!Stalin19:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stalin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:15
referi!samba19:15
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT19:15
trillisarg... How do I make my themes available to select in theme manager?19:18
LjLxbehave: settings / configure konversation / general / chat windows / hide joins and parts19:21
LjLbehavior not general19:21
xbehavethx19:23
[ifr0g]!cnr19:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:24
flakein kde, where can i find trackerd to disable it19:25
referihow many peoples around you use windows and how many of them do you turn on true linux way ?19:30
jhutchinsreferi: Only the people who can actually benefit from it.19:31
jhutchinstrillis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu19:33
trillisI'm retarded.19:35
trillisI kept downloaidng KDM skins...19:36
trillisNot KDE.19:36
skyfalcon866do i need kde 3.5.8 to run kde 419:42
joey722how can i configure hotmail and gmail with kontact?19:43
draremok I did a sudo apt-get remove trackerd, but it still shows in TOP and guess where.. at the top of the list19:43
draremI tried kill all and kill, doesn't get rid of it19:44
draremwth man???19:44
draremI did log off but didn't reboot19:44
jhutchinsdrarem: what level kill signal did you send it?19:45
draremsudo kill 624619:45
jhutchinsdrarem: You've uninstalled the package, but the program is still loaded in memory and running.19:45
jhutchinsdrarem: k, try sudo kill -15 624619:45
draremnope19:47
draremthinking I need to reboot19:47
drarem103% cpu19:47
jhutchinsdrarem: ok, last resort is sudo kill -9 624619:48
draremit's dead, thanks19:48
=== adria is now known as adrianet
ns8en español19:51
ns8spanish please19:51
scooter_how can i fix a broken arts file?19:52
ns8wey19:52
ns8i need help19:52
ns8but i donnt speack english19:52
ns8en español19:53
ubuntu_Hello?19:53
referido you now the hot key to kill the most usage cpu process ?19:53
ubuntu_Woot.19:53
ns8donde tengo que ir19:53
=== ubuntu_ is now known as GradeFPoultry
GradeFPoultryI just booted in Kubuntu.19:53
GradeFPoultryAnyone ever actually talk in these ?19:54
GradeFPoultry><19:54
nadolol19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
nadohi guis19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:54
GradeFPoultryCALLETE19:54
ns8en español19:54
ns8en español19:55
scooter_que lastimas19:55
ns8en español19:55
ns8en español19:55
ns8en español19:55
ns8en español19:55
ns8en español19:55
ns8en español19:55
ns8me calle19:55
ns8pero donde en español hoijo19:55
nadokick plz?19:55
ns8PLJKRT19:55
ns8lo q sea19:55
ns8pero enespañol19:55
Chousuke_eh19:55
Stilo!de19:55
GradeFPoultrySo I'm new to IRC's and Linux. So I have no idea what I'm doing.19:55
Chousuke_!es :p19:55
GradeFPoultryFun!19:55
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de19:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:55
nadocould anybody help me? i can't get licq to work19:55
Chousuke_!es19:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.19:55
scooter_join the club poultry19:56
GradeFPoultryYay.19:56
GradeFPoultryIs this the only server I can join on Kubuntu?19:56
scooter_i think so19:56
GradeFPoultry...bummer.19:56
nado!licq19:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about licq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:56
scooter_yea19:56
scooter_cuz nobody here knows how to help me19:56
ns8gracias19:56
GradeFPoultryHeh.19:56
GradeFPoultryMy Kopete keeps crashing when I try to connect to MSN.19:57
scooter_can someone help me fix my "broken" arts file?19:57
trillis!themes19:57
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:57
scooter_i cant do n e thing with apt19:57
nadoscooter_: what do u mean?19:57
scooter_in konsole19:57
jhutchinsGradeFPoultry: There are kubuntu channels on other networks, but freenode's the biggest.19:57
scooter_the apt command doesnt work and it says i have something wrong with my "arts" file19:57
scooter_when i open adept it says my arts file is "broken"19:58
jhutchinsGradeFPoultry: You might try pidgin instead of kopete.19:58
GradeFPoultryOh.19:58
GradeFPoultryWhy's that?19:58
nadohmm sorry never heard of that kind of error19:58
GradeFPoultryI've used pidgin before on XP.19:58
GradeFPoultryNevermind.19:58
jhutchins!aptfix | scooter_19:58
ubotuscooter_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »19:58
jhutchinsGradeFPoultry: Might be easier is all.19:59
GradeFPoultryOkay.19:59
nadoso nobody in here knows why my licq won't start?19:59
jhutchinsGradeFPoultry: Working out why msn and any given chat client aren't working on a given day...19:59
skyfalcon866is kde simple19:59
jhutchinsnado: Have you tried starting it in a console and seeing what errors it reports?20:00
scooter_"errors were encountered while processng arts"20:00
nadojhutchins: nope, mom plz20:00
nadoerr....20:00
jhutchinsscooter_: you might need to remove the arts package and restart it.20:00
nado$ licq20:00
jhutchinsscooter_: er, reinstall.20:00
nado21:00:14: [WRN] IniFile: Warnung, Schlüsselwort wurde nicht gefunden.20:00
scooter_ok how do i do that20:00
nado                Datei         = /home/nado/.licq//licq.conf20:00
nado                Abschnitt     = [licq]20:00
nado                Schlüsselwort = "Version"20:00
nado21:00:14: [ERR] IniFile: Warning, I/O read error.20:00
nado                File  = /home/nado/.licq//owner.uin20:00
nado                Error = No such file or directory20:00
nado21:00:14: [ERR] Upgrade failed. Please save your licq directory and20:00
nado                report this as a bug.20:00
jhutchins!paste20:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:01
scooter_its not letting me do anything in konsole20:01
nadothx ;)20:02
jhutchins"Schlüsselwort"! I love german.20:02
Kachnahi,what's the easiest(fastest to set-up) ftp server available? :P20:02
nadokatchna: proftpd20:02
jhutchinsKachna: Standard warning: running an FTP server is the best way to get hacked, even if you know what you're doing.20:02
jhutchinsKachna: proftpd or vsftpd20:03
Kachnanado: thx,will try20:03
nadoKachna: make sure to install gproftpd plugin20:03
Kachnajhutchins: well,i need it just for a while...:-)20:03
nadoits the gui20:03
jhutchinsKachna: better to use scp if you can.20:03
GradeFPoultryWell guys.20:03
GradeFPoultryI'm about to install Kubuntu.20:03
GradeFPoultryWish me luck.20:03
GradeFPoultryHehe.20:04
jhutchinsscooter_: Did you try unlocking the apt database as ubotu told you to do?20:04
blackflag!openca20:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openca - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:04
Kachnajhutchins: yep,i use scp usually,but now i want one guy to upload some stuff to me,so i think ftp is the easiest way for both :-)20:04
nadoso jhutchins u know something about my licq problem?20:05
Kachnathanks a lot guys ;)20:05
jhutchinsnado: Looks like what it says it is, a bug.20:05
jhutchinsnado: Bad configuration file.  You could try moving/renaming it and starting with a blank one.20:05
nadook will try that20:05
nadothx20:05
jhutchins!info licq20:05
ubotulicq: ICQ client (base files). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1952 kB20:05
jhutchinsnado: There are other clients.20:06
nadojhutchins: but i like this one ;)20:06
nadokopete i.e. sucks imo20:06
GradeFPoultryWhy?20:07
nadodon't really know20:07
nadoi just don't like the handling20:08
nadojhutchins: what client do you use?20:10
jhutchinspidgin when i use one, konversation for IRC.20:10
GradeFPoultryI'm off guys.20:10
nadoaight i'm off, cya20:15
pwolaninanyone have advice for this scenario:  I did a 7.04 to 7.10 Ubuntu upgrade, and then essentialy moved over to Kubuntu by installing KDE with apt-get20:15
pwolaninthe problem is that now when logged in as the admin user, many of the admin function are inaccessible20:15
pwolaninfor example - try to use the GUI to change the video setup20:16
sossiociao a tutti20:16
BluesKaj!it | sossio20:17
ubotusossio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!20:17
sossiociao a tutti20:17
BluesKajpwolanin, try installing kubuntu-desktop20:18
michael_hi all20:19
BluesKaj!hi | michael_20:19
ubotumichael_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:19
michael_thank you thank you20:19
michael_I think I have set everything up but my sound20:19
michael_think anyone here can help?I have sound blaster20:20
pwolaninBluesKaj: that's what I did install - so aftrer disabling the Gnmoe login screen, I see the kubuntu login screen, menus, etc.20:20
machriderhey guys, i just booted up a 7.10 kubuntu CD, X starts, but then a window appears saying it can't start kstartupconfig20:20
machriderif i try to run kstartupconfig myself, i get a missing symbol from a Qt library20:21
machrideranyone seen this?20:21
BluesKajmichael_,,try this:  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply20:21
michael_I get sound, but coupled with major static20:21
michael_ok20:21
michael_ok cool, now to find some sound to est    :o)20:23
BluesKajpwolanin, were you previously setup to autologin your PW with Gnome ?20:23
pwolaninBluesKaj: no - I had the gnome face-choose login screen20:23
machrideri don't understand how the kubuntu CD could not work out of the box20:23
machridermaybe i'll just go get ubuntu, and install kde desktop myself20:24
michael_still get staic20:24
michael_static20:24
joey722is there a way to configure hotmail with kontact??20:24
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BluesKajmichael_, open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 (if applicable) are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply20:25
michael_ok20:25
machrideri figured.  no help here.20:26
BluesKajjoey722, I think you have to configure that in hotmail itself , to send email to kmail inbox...I don't use hotmail but it works with gmail20:28
TimSCan Krita open PSDs20:28
michael_ahh, I thought that one was going to work, but still havvvv static20:31
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chxpwolanin: hi20:32
pwolaninchx: hey!20:33
pwolaninchx: I took your advice and put kubuntu on - though some functionality is broke - I figured better to ask here than bother you20:33
chxah20:34
BluesKajmichael_, find your soundcard : cat /proc/asound/cards , then set it as default : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"20:35
michael_ok20:36
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michael_with the "" ?  Sorry for the dumb question20:38
osman47!de20:38
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de20:38
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BluesKajmichael_, "name of soundcard" ? yes20:39
michael_I get this message:;;     Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequences.20:39
michael_then it takes me to the prompt20:40
michael_did it do it?20:40
BluesKajmichael_, are you the only user ?20:40
michael_yes20:40
BluesKajthat should set the default ok20:41
michael_I still have static20:41
michael_un20:42
michael_oops20:42
BluesKajmichael_, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key , and bring the volume ctrls down to 70% or so , not in the red20:42
michael_unless I need to refresh the video I'm watching on google20:42
michael_ok20:42
BluesKajmichael_,you may need to relogin or even reboot ..20:44
michael_ok, I have 5.1 suround, and the levels were mostly at 100%20:45
BluesKajtoo high20:45
michael_now they are at 70% or lower20:45
michael_(out of the red)20:45
BluesKajgood20:45
michael_does tone matter? its muted20:46
michael_I'll restart now20:48
michael_bummer, still have static20:52
michael_I'm getting what sounds like feed back, but my mic is muted and the mic boost is off20:53
BluesKajmichael_, turn down your "line" vol ctrl , then try a tune with whatever player you like to use ... forget the website video for a sec , that may be a a different matter20:56
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michael_ahh ok20:57
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michael_ok down to 25 %20:58
anetahellohello20:58
michael_(in kmixer)20:58
tom|wechHuHu zusammen20:59
michael_is alsa tuned automaticly when I use kmixer20:59
michael_?20:59
GrahamAHey, I've got an issue playing DVDs with Kaffeine: I'm getting this error, any ideas? Error reading NAV packet.20:59
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ptwWORLD PEACE THROUGH MARIJUANA   www.havethisbook.com   very interesting FREE non-fiction, enjoy, newly updated!20:59
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BluesKajmichael_,yes21:00
michael_ok21:00
michael_static21:01
BluesKaj ptw, this not the place advert your beliefs21:01
podr0znikhello21:02
NickPrestahello podr0znik21:03
podr0znikjust curious - I tried to upgrade yesterday to 7.10 and experienced some problems, am I the only one? :)21:04
BluesKajwell michael_ , that pretty well exhaust my knowledge and ability to solve your problem ...can anyone else help with some suggestions ?21:04
michael_thank you BluesKaj21:05
BluesKajpodr0znik, FYI , I tried to use the adept upgrader but the repos connection failed 3 times , so i just did a regular clean install21:06
BluesKajsorry I couldn't do more , michael_ :(21:06
SunriseboyHello everyone!21:06
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podr0znikBluesKaj, during downloading/installing I had a REAL system jam, you know, such events which belong more to Windows21:07
michael_:o)21:08
podr0znikI tried later a clean install and got again errors, KDE didn't want to switch to admin mode, and sth more what I forgot already.21:08
podr0znikFor now I returned to 7.04 which was good anyway ;)21:09
BluesKaj7.04 is a fine OS , IMO :)21:09
michael_its strange, I have not been able to get my sound working since edgy. Dapper and older works fine21:10
podr0znikNow I have sth else - I put in a DVD with all documents, but it's not automatically mounting/opening. Actually I cannot even find the contents of the disc. But when I start the burning program it says "Documents (Complete Data DVD-R)"21:10
BluesKajwhich soundcard michael_ ?21:10
michael_Audigy21:10
podr0znikdo I have to mount it now manually (and if yes, with which command, because I'm not of the Linux command line generation)?21:10
michael_all other distros (that I have tried) work fine as well21:11
kyled185michael_, I wouldn't know how to fix it, but I had an audigy and I had to enable digital out or some other option21:11
michael_ooo, I'll try that21:11
BluesKajmichael_, maybe your audigy audio drivewrs need upgrading21:11
michael_I seen that somewhere21:12
BluesKajerr drivers21:12
michael_got ya blues   :o)21:12
crimsunmichael_: download http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, run it using bash, and tell me the url.21:13
kyled185michael_, yeah, just one by one enable options and see if anything makes it works (you might have to unmute and/or adjust some volume stuff)21:13
BluesKajkyled185, we went thru that routine21:14
michael_where do I search for bash?21:14
kyled185BluesKaj, oh ok well then I wouldn't be of any more help21:14
crimsunmichael_: you have bash already.  I meant, bash /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/script21:15
michael_ha, sorry I'm a noob21:15
martinwWhen I first ran KDE it gave me a wizard and told me where to find the wizard again. But now I can't find the wizard again. Where is it?21:15
podr0znikmichael_, welcome to the club :)21:15
michael_:)21:16
BluesKajcrimsun, pls don't assume ppl here know about bash21:16
* martinw wants in to the club two.21:16
crimsunBluesKaj: (sure, that's why I mentioned it.  It'll fail utterly with dash.)21:17
michael_I cant find bash in my menu21:17
crimsunmichael_: use a Konsole :)21:18
michael_got ya21:18
crimsunmichael_: where did you save the script?  On your Desktop?21:18
BluesKajmichael_, run it in the terminal by cd to the downloaded script21:18
michael_hmmm, there wasnot script21:18
michael_when I clicked on the link it wanted a program picked from a list to run something21:19
crimsunlikely Kate/editor?21:19
crimsuninstead of choosing that option, just choose to save it.21:19
BluesKajcrimsun, what's the script do ?21:20
michael_ok21:20
crimsunBluesKaj: grabs /proc/asound/* info and amixer output21:20
michael_ok got it21:22
michael_kates reads it21:23
crimsunall right, save it onto your Desktop.21:23
michael_CHANGELOG="http://bulletproof.servebeer.com/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.changelog"21:23
michael_what is that all about?21:23
michael_its saved to the desktop21:25
michael_hello?21:29
crimsunmichael_: I gave you the command above to run it.21:30
crimsunmichael_: see 15 minutes ago in scrollback21:30
michael_i did21:30
michael_I saved the script21:31
crimsunmichael_: no, I meant the command to run in Konsole21:31
michael_oh oh oh21:31
crimsun16:15 < crimsun> michael_: you have bash already.  I meant, bash /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/script21:31
michael_sorry21:31
michael_I cant get it to work21:36
michael_its asking me what i want to open the program with21:37
michael_what do I tell it?21:37
michael_I click "run in terminal" but it wont except it21:37
Dr_Willisyou are double clicking on the thing? dont.. use the shell...21:37
Dr_Willisopen up a terminal, cd to where the script is at.21:37
Dr_Willisassuming its on your desktop it would be 'cd Desktop'21:38
Dr_Willisthen run the script with one of the following.21:38
michael_ok21:38
Dr_Willis./scriptname     OR21:38
Dr_Willisbash ./scriptname21:38
vsudilovsh scriptname21:38
Dr_Willisthats a 3rd way.  :)21:38
michael_permission denied21:38
Dr_Willisto which one? all 3 ways?21:39
michael_(I dragged and dropped)21:39
Dr_Willisdrag and dropped what where?21:39
Dr_Williswhat is it you are even trying to run anyway?21:39
vladdracushey all, I'm new to kubuntu, a friend recommended installing chkrootkit and rkhunter. I'm getting some worrying warning messages when I rana check in rkhunter. namely warnings for "checking for enabled xinetd services" "checking to see  if ssh root access is allowed "/dev for suspicious file types" and "hidden files and directories" chkrootkit reveals nothing but not sure what to make of those messages in rkhunter, anyone have an idea?21:39
michael_I saved a script on desktop21:39
BluesKajmichael_, right click the script and 'cut ' and then paste it in your "Home Folder"21:40
PeterPan_good fire with comprehensive gui and user friendly?21:40
Dr_Willis!firewall21:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).21:40
michael_ok done21:41
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michael_ma, I feel like a retard21:41
michael_man21:41
michael_lol21:41
vladdracussame here micheal!21:41
Dr_WillisThink, act, learn. :)21:41
Dr_Willisrepeat..21:41
Dr_WillisThe Zen of Linux.21:41
michael_think act learn21:41
michael_I need to loose the Windows mentality21:42
vsudilovyou are more or less in charge of what your OS does, not microsoft ;)21:42
Dr_WillisYep. Windows teaches many bad habbits... and hids info that people should know about.21:42
vladdracusanyone advice me on the warnings I posted above that I'm getting above in rkhunter?21:43
BluesKajmichael_, then right click it and choose properties , copy the whole filename , then open a terminal type cd and paste the file name after a space and hit enter21:43
vladdracus*advise*21:43
michael_ok21:43
Dr_Willisvladdracus ubuntu dosent use  xinetd by defatult as far as i know.21:43
vsudilovvladdracus what are those programs meant to do?21:44
vladdracusDr Willis..dont recall installing it..dont even know what it does21:44
PeterPan_Dr_Willis:  i need a gui for iptable21:44
Radi01firestarter21:44
vsudilovGuarddog21:44
vladdracusrkhunter and chkroot check for vulnerabilities and trojans on your box21:44
Dr_WillisDo you have a reason to think you have been trojaned?21:44
vladdracusDr, I'm, using the firestarter21:45
vsudilovhmmm you don't really need antivirus on a linux machine...just don't download random scripts that you dont know what they are21:45
PeterPan_Radi01:  i have firestarter installed. but its not asking my to allow or disallow the apps.....................21:45
Dr_WillisIf this is a new install - i would gues s that the warnings are just being over-protective-cautious.21:45
vladdracusDr, well I have a "friend" hwo I'm starting to get suspicious of. maybe I'm being paranoid but he really knows a lot about linux and I dont so...21:45
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ you expecting the firewall to pop up and ask - like windows does? Not sure any of the firewalling tools for linux do that.21:45
michael_the file name is just script21:45
vladdracus..just being cautious21:46
michael_should there be a .xx21:46
PeterPan_Dr_Willis: then what does it do21:46
vsudilovvladdracus : if he doesn't have your password, he can't really do much21:46
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ it configures the iptables rules. plain and simple.   Windows firewalling  - is more of a 'personal' firewall  i guess you can say.21:46
michael_its telling me bad file name21:46
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ i dont een worry about firewalls under linux. :) of coruse my router blocks most garbage21:47
Dr_Willismichael_ you did make the script excecutable with 'chmod +x scriptname' ?21:47
vladdracusvsudilov, good...he is a good friend but maybe I'm being too cautious21:47
michael_sorry, it said no such directory21:47
PeterPan_Dr_Willis: will it auto block suspercious apps or a hacker. portscaning etc21:47
Dr_Willismichael_ you did a typo or somthing basic wrong is my guess.21:47
michael_ha, I have no idea what that is21:47
BluesKajok michael_ sorry try this : type ./alsa-info.sh21:47
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ mot really. :) unless you have the proper rules set up21:47
michael_lol, you guys rock21:48
michael_you just oooz with patience21:48
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ it a tool to let you set up the rules  you want.21:48
PeterPan_Dr_Willis: how to do that. how to block an app . eg. firefox21:48
vladdracusthanks for the help guys21:49
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Dr_Willis!info lokkit21:49
ubotulokkit: basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.22-7.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 792 kB21:49
Dodger73hi all... i thought i'd ask here about the infamous 'i ain't got DMA with gutsy' problem - which I have; anyone have any pointers for me? :)21:49
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ no idea on that. ive never needed to block a specific app. I normally block the ports and bad packets of attackers and so on.21:50
Dodger73'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' only yields 'HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted for me'21:50
michael_BluesKaj: nothing21:50
PeterPan_Dr_Willis: well how to do that then21:51
crimsunrun it with debug and no-upload21:51
Dodger73and i can't seem to find any actual solution for that21:51
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/index.html    for guarddog and for firestarter ---> http://www.debianadmin.com/secure-ubuntu-desktop-using-firestarter-firewall.html21:52
BluesKajmichael_, right click on the script choose properties , permissions tab make executable (x)21:52
PeterPan_Dr_Willis: thanks21:52
Dr_WillisDodger73 are  you even srue that dma is disabled? last i looked into the dma issues.. the change to the libata library broke (sort of) the reporting  and settings by hdparm21:52
michael_k21:53
BluesKajmichael_, then ./alsa-info.sh in the terminal21:53
Dodger73Dr_Willis: i'm pretty sure it is, as my hard drive is dog slow - it worked fine in feisty, but since upgrading to gutsy i get about 5MB/s21:53
Dodger73and, of course, hdparm -d /dev/hda tells me it's off ;)21:53
joey722i cant install apache fop(kubuntu gutsy) using apt-get while a friend of me (debian) can do it.... please help21:54
Dr_Willis!apache21:54
michael_ok21:54
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)21:54
Dr_Willisjoey722 its apache2 I think for the package name21:54
Dodger73but mainly the performance tells me it's not turned on21:54
Dr_Willis!find apache21:54
ubotuFound: apache2, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 120 others)21:54
purpleposeidonjoey722: sudo apt-get install apache221:55
Dr_WillisDodger73 cant really help ya much. Ive not experienced the issue. be intereesting to test with hdparm -Tt /dev/whatever from your install.. and from various live cd's21:55
michael_michael@Xavier:~$ ./alsa-info.sh21:55
michael_bash: ./alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory21:55
Dodger73Timing cached reads:   1174 MB in  2.00 seconds = 587.09 MB/sec and21:56
Dodger73Timing cached reads:   1174 MB in  2.00 seconds = 587.09 MB/sec21:56
Dodger73argh sorry21:56
Dodger73... and Timing buffered disk reads:   18 MB in  3.33 seconds =   5.40 MB/sec is what i get, which is pretty abysmal21:56
BluesKajmichael_, did you move the script to your 'Home folder' , cuz that's where michael@Xavier is looking for it21:57
joey722purpleposeidon : i'm looking for install fop (to generate pdf) by using apt-get install fop ... it dosen't work.... but my friend (in debien) did....21:57
purpleposeidonjoey722: Do apt-cache search PACKAGENAME to find programs21:57
Dr_Willis!find fop21:58
ubotuFound: r-cran-foptions, xmms-infopipe21:58
michael_yes21:58
michael_dolphin has Home highlighted21:58
michael_(using Gabby)21:58
michael_7.1021:59
* Dr_Willis thinks michael_ needs to start over from the begining.. Im not sure whats going on. :)22:00
Dr_WillisIf i download a script to my Desktop. I would do the following to run it..22:01
BluesKajmichael_, open system menu/home folder22:01
Dr_Williscd Desktop               Then    chmod +x script name             then   ./scriptname22:01
vsudilov(in the terminal)22:01
vsudilov(ie, Konsole if you are use Kubuntu)22:02
michael_I get heavy static when any sound played mp3/wav/video on google22:02
michael_its open22:02
BluesKajmichael_, did you try to play a tune from you hard drive like i suggested eariler22:03
michael_yes22:03
BluesKajok22:03
michael_static still22:03
sivanandaGreets everyone. Has anybody managed to get the ProjectM visualizer working with Amarok in Gutsy?22:03
Radi01prijecy M ?22:04
Radi01project22:04
michael_I'm in home folder22:05
sivanandaRadi01: yea it's basically an open source rewrite of Milkdrop22:05
Radi01oh  ok22:05
vsudilovHey anyone know of a script out there that does the following: Checks external IP address periodically, if its different from your old IP (ie it has changed), send an email to some email address with the new IP address22:05
Dr_Willisvsudilov ages ago ive seen such scripts. Youmay want to check out 'dynamic dns scripts'  under google  or dyndns scripts.22:06
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vsudilovty22:07
vzduch"if you are use Kubuntu".. sounds a bit like "All your base are belong to us".. *gg*22:08
michael_209.7 gig free22:08
PeterPan_does any one know a gui to iptabes firewall that auto asks for each connection and app to permit or not. and then makes that rule for future. ? and does not allow any other connection or app unless permited.?22:08
sstchurI can't seem to apt-get install anything these days -- I keep getting errors regarding kde-icons-oxygen and kdebase-runtime-data.  Anyone know what that is about?22:09
twylightguys22:09
twylightwhat was that doom clone with the doom 2 content?22:09
Dr_WillisPeterPan_ never seen such a thing under linux. given the security methods linux uses. Id be suprised if such an app exists.   Good luck googling for that. :)  let us know what you find.22:09
vsudilovPeterPan, are you thinking of LittleSnitch for Mac OSX?22:09
kyled185sstchur, did you try to install KDE 4 stuff?22:10
sstchurkyled185: yes22:10
PeterPan_k22:10
sstchurkyled185: I got KDE4 running and it worked okay, but I'm not using it at the moment22:10
sstchurkyled185: I set it up to be an option to select it when I log in22:11
michael_ok, I need a break guys22:11
Dr_WillisLinux firewall uses ports rather than executables to allow or deny connections. So if you allow Epiphany Firefox will be able to go as well since they both run on the same port.22:11
PeterPan_vsudilov:  i use kubuntu22:11
michael_thank you for your help22:11
michael_I will return after a while22:11
kyled185sstchur, I had a similar problem when I tried to update it to the RC22:11
vsudilovPetePan_ Yeah I figure, but it sounds 100% like an application for Mac OSX called LittleSnitch22:11
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michael_thank you for your help22:12
vsudilov...Which is really really cool22:12
sstchurkyled185: what is the solution?  do you know?22:12
PeterPanvsudilov:  or most apps of windows do this22:12
kyled185sstchur, you've gotta remove the beta stuff, I used aptitude, but it was a while ago and I can't quite remember what the solution was22:12
PeterPanvsudilov:  right?22:13
vsudilovPeterPan_ I'm not up to date with whats going on with windows...22:13
kyled185sstchur, for example it said that kde-oxygen was trying to modify a file, but $somekde4package was using it22:14
kyled185sstchur, so I removed that $somekde4package22:14
PeterPank22:14
kyled185sstchur, actually, I haven't rebooted yet so ymmv22:15
Radi01sudo dpkg --configure -a      worked for me.22:16
sstchurkyled185: ymmv?22:17
sivanandaAnyone here at all who's familiar with the ProjectM music visualizer?22:17
kyled185your mileage may vary22:17
Dr_WillisPeterPan doing some googling on this. and as far as i can tell iptables just blocks based on ports. so if you want to block MSN which uses port 1863 - a iptales entry to blockit would be -->  /sbin/iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -s $IP -p tcp --dport 1863 -j REJECT22:18
kyled185- it worked for me no guarantees it'll work for you22:18
BluesKajDr_Willis, could you explain what the purpose of chmod +x filename is, previous to the install ?22:19
Dr_WillisPeterPan http://www.linuxtopia.org/Linux_Firewall_iptables/x499.html has a lot of really hard core info on the filtering.22:19
Dr_WillisBluesKaj it makjes the thing executable22:19
Dr_Willisothereise you cant run it witn ./whatever22:19
BluesKajok, thx , so it's the same choosing the make exectable box in properties22:20
PeterPanDr_Willis: where can i get one.  i dont wana add a deny rule for each manualy. i want it to ask when observing any active connection or request.................22:20
BluesKajerr the same as22:20
PeterPanthx22:22
Dr_WillisPeterPan dont think thats going to happen.  reading that site now and i see iptables can filter based on owner. but i see no thing on a specific executable name.22:22
PeterPank22:22
Dr_Willisand as for 'asking' that opens up a whole other set of  problems that could spring up. :)22:23
sivanandaPeterPan: It sounds like you're looking for something that works similar to zonealarm on windoze. Nothin' like that in linux AFAIK22:23
BluesKaj!antivirus22:24
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus22:24
BluesKaj!linuxvirus22:24
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2122:24
PeterPansivananda: yes22:24
sstchurhow do i remove kde4?22:25
PeterPanDr_Willis: sivananda then how does a firewall work . eg. a hacker comes and attack or allowed ports. how will i know some thing ingenuine is happening. or a malicous app (very rare) uses the allowed port 80 ?22:25
vzduchsstchur: how did you install it?22:25
sstchurvzduch: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php22:25
vzduchPeterPan: that's what log files are for22:25
sstchurvzduch: but trying to run apt-get remove [ kde packages ] doesn't seem to work22:25
PeterPanvzduch:  who will tel me to be alert and watch log files22:26
sstchurvzduch: it complains about "unmet dependencies"  -- I guess I need some way to revert back22:26
sstchurvzduch: I actually can't apt-get install or remove anything right now -- everything fails22:26
vzduch!aptfix | sstchur22:27
ubotusstchur: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:27
Dr_WillisPeterPan  iptables blocks specific data based on specific rules..  You set up rules to block what you consider bad. its  only windows and its 'firewall' that has peole thinking its sdesigned to block malicious apps.  ITS actually designed to stop Malicious packets.22:27
sivanandaPeterPan: as I understand it, linux generally adopts a philosophy that is diametrically opposite of windoze. Whereas windoze has an 'every port open' approach, and you must choose to close individual ones, linux is the opposite. It has an 'everything closed' approach, and you must choose what you want open...22:27
sstchurvzduch: I don't think that's the issue exactly.  The commands run, but if I try to install anything, it complains about unmet dependencies no matter what22:28
Dr_WillisPeterPan the proper ip tables rules can detect a port flood or scan or other bad things and block the incoming packets.  and log them . If you set it up that way.22:28
sstchurvzduch: but i can try it22:28
* Dr_Willis agrees with sivananda linux and windows do it from different 'approaches'22:28
sstchurvzduch: it tells me to run "apt-get -f install", but when I do, that fails too22:29
PeterPanDr_Willis: well then how to set up proper iptable rules then?22:29
Dr_Willishttp://www.linuxtopia.org/Linux_Firewall_iptables/index.html  - has some really neat info..22:29
Dr_WillisPeterPan define what you want to do.. create the proper ruleset. :)   that url has some examples.22:29
Dr_Willisin 'theory' under linux and proper security - you would have the firewall all set up befor the pc ever gets connected to the internet.22:30
vzduchsstchur: gimme your sources.list in a pastebin22:30
sivanandaPeterPan: Altho' it doesn't do anything 'automagically', I would have to say that about the friendliest GUI app i've found for configuring iptables is called Guarddog. It should be available in the repositories...22:31
Dr_WillisNormally the rules would be to block everything.. allow in/out the ports you need.22:31
Dr_WillisLokkit, an application that walks you through a few simple steps and configures a basic firewall for you. Lokkit is dead easy to use, and requires very little understanding of firewalls to set up, but it provides few options, and it's not a good choice if you want to set up a complex firewall.22:33
Dr_Willis!info lokkit22:33
ubotulokkit: basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.22-7.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 792 kB22:33
sivananda!info guarddog22:34
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB22:34
Dr_Willisgotta love it whenyou mess up and make a firewall so strong that you cant do anytying :)22:35
sstchurvzduch: http://pastebin.us/?show=m3479d93822:35
sivanandalol yea...22:36
PeterPansivananda:  thanks22:36
PeterPanDr_Willis: thanks22:36
vzduchsstchur: nothing wrong w/ that afaics22:36
Radi01I did that with zone labs..they emailed me with a paraniod list to un do/ lol22:37
vzduchyou might want to uncomment gutsy-backports22:37
sivanandasomething else to keep in mind, if you're behind a router (such as with a home network), then it very likely already has at least a basic firewall. I for example don't even need iptables on my machine...22:37
vzduchand if you haven't lately, try 'apt-get update'22:37
sivanandaPeterPan:  np :)22:38
Dr_WillisI dont een use a firewallon the linux box's - Nothing is really attacking them. the router is blocking most garbage. and theres no real spyware/malware ever going to get on them22:39
Dr_WillisYou can alwyas use the variput logging features to watch what info is going out.. if you want to see whats happening.22:39
Kr4t05Are there any ways I can clean up some of the clutter in my / partition?22:40
Dr_WillisKr4t05 what clutter?22:40
Kr4t05I've already done "sudo apt-get clean"22:40
Dr_WillisFind clutter.. delete it..:)22:41
sivanandaYep Dr_Willis. Attacks against linux machines are pretty rare (tho' not unknown). There are so many different 'flavors', and they're so highly configurable, that it's difficult to create a network virus that would propagate to any great degree...22:41
Kr4t05Dr_Willis: Er... That's a bit vague.22:41
Dr_Willissivananda and most of the attacks are against specific  services.. so if its not running.22:41
Dr_WillisKr4t05 so was your question. :)22:41
sivanandaDr_Willis: indeed22:42
Kr4t05Hrm...22:42
Dr_WillisKr4t05 heck i found 14+gb in my users  .Trash and  !/.local/share/Trash the other day22:42
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Dr_Willisthat was 1/2 my Hard drive on the laptop! :)22:42
Dr_Willisaparently wine puts deletes things in .local/share/trash22:42
Kr4t05That's helpful.22:43
Dr_Willisalso watch for removeable drives the .Trash  dirs get overlooked.22:43
Dr_Willishad a mc card thta was full.. even tho it was empty. :)22:44
Radi01wow22:44
Kr4t05Yeah, I always hard delete everything on my MP3 player.22:44
Kr4t05What about /tmp/?22:45
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mot_how do i upgrade to the latest kernel?22:45
scrubb2000Video playback of AVIs and MKVs is choppy on my machine, could someone help me figure out how to correct it?  Thanks.22:45
mot_what's the kubuntu meta package for the newest kernel revision? :O22:45
Dr_Willisive never noticed tmp getting too full.22:45
Kr4t05scrubb2000: Compiz-Fusion?22:45
Dr_Willisdosent /tmp get flused on each boot up?22:45
scrubb2000kr4t05: yes.22:45
scrubb2000but it's not on every file22:46
Kr4t05mot_: Generally, check backports, I don't think the very latest kernel gets put into a stable release unless it's a crucial fix.22:46
mot_ahhh22:46
mot_also, if i've configured samba in the kcontrol panel, is there any particular reason why i can't access the share over my network on other machines? the service is running...22:46
Kr4t05scrubb2000: CompizConfig-Settings-Manager -> Video Playback, see if it's checked. If it is, uncheck it, if it isn't check it.22:47
Dr_Willismot_ enable a samba password for the users? with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'  perhaps22:47
Dr_Willismot_ you did enable a share or 2 for them to access?22:47
mot_yea22:47
mot_i enabled a share22:47
mot_and over my wireless network, on a windows box, i typed in "//thisbox'sip/Share22:47
Dr_Willisi alwyas just uncomment the homes entrys in the smba.config and smbpasswd -a MyUser22:47
mot_and it failed..22:47
Dr_Willissee if the linux box can see its own shares.22:48
CubaColahi22:48
Dr_Willisbe sure the workgroups are the same also22:48
mot_Dr_Willis, how do i do that?22:48
CubaColaamarok & konqueror get kill at start ...22:48
Dr_WillisKonqueror has a 'remote' location.  it may be smb:/ or smb:// also.22:48
CubaColahi, by the way :)22:49
Dr_Willisplaces -> remote machine  (or somthing like that. Not in KDE right now)22:49
mot_yeaaaaa22:49
mot_smb://localhost/ displays my share...22:49
kubuntunewbieI have a problem.  I have been seeing the update the thing at the bottom right in the tray that there are 5 updated packages available.  but when i click on it it it tells me something is already runing and it can only do read only22:49
mot_now on a windows box if i type //thisbox'sip/ i get nothin'22:49
mot_strange.22:49
Dr_Willismot_ try the actual machine name not the ip.22:50
andresjhello, my audio is not working, it says the device is in use in amarok... how can I fix this? i remember there was a shelll command to see what processes were using a specific file, but i forgo it's name....22:50
Dr_Willisi normally browse with the Windows network -> whatever it is  Icon. :)22:50
mot_sweet it works thanks22:51
kubuntunewbieit tells me another process is using the packaging system database (prob some other adept application or apt-get aptitude) even though nothing else is runing it.  and then it asks me "Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve the issue yourself."22:51
Dr_Willismot_ i  DO recall someone saying that some how the 'workgroup' setting in the samba configs was getting changed/removed by some of the samba config toools. some how.22:51
Dr_Willismot_ :) bookmark it! :022:51
mot_nah it's cool i got it to work.22:51
kubuntunewbieanyone?22:51
Radi01sudo dpkg --configure -a22:52
Radi01thats what I had to do22:53
PeterPanfinal advice needed. which one is the best anti intrussion app .snort , fwmon , firestorm,prelude ?22:53
ubuntuHey.22:53
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kubuntunewbieWTF, would someone please help me?22:53
mot_alright22:53
mot_what's the problem?22:54
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posingaspopular!aptlock22:54
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:54
posingaspopularkubuntunewbie: ^^^22:54
mot_kubuntunewbie, hit CTRL + ESC and open the KDE processes window.22:54
sivanandakubuntunewbie: I had that error the other day. I just hit Yes then restarted Adept and it worked fine...22:54
mot_look for 'adept' anything and kill the process22:54
mot_then try it again.22:54
mot_meh.22:54
kubuntunewbiesivananda: hiting yes crashed me22:54
kubuntunewbiemot_: okay i did that22:54
posingaspopular!aptlock | kubuntunewbie22:55
ubotukubuntunewbie: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:55
posingaspopularthat's how I fix that error every single time22:55
PeterPanhow to install an rpm file22:55
sivanandakubuntunewbie: Well was worth a shot anyway. It crashed Adept when I did it, not my whole system, but as I said, I just restarted it and it was fine thereafter...22:55
posingaspopular!rpm22:56
Dr_WillisWow - we may be getting logged in a searchable  fashion by some company.. -->  http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/02/1515247&from=rss22:56
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)22:56
posingaspopularPeterPan: ^^^22:56
Dr_WillisPeterPan its BEST to not mess with installing rpms. find a debian package or uuntu package for whateverit is yu want to install.22:56
Radi01I found many public logs22:56
Kr4t05Well, right now, I'm backing up some TV shows, so I have more room in my /home/ partition.22:57
GradeFPoultryI've been trying to partition my hard drive.22:57
PeterPanDr_Willis:  i cant find anyin package manager. how to find one for firestorm?22:57
GradeFPoultryIt's a nightmare.22:57
kubuntunewbiemot_: i love u. it worked. wanna make babies with me22:57
Radi01lol22:57
kubuntunewbieokay, maybe next time.22:57
podr0znikwhen I enter a CD-R, it normally mounts and gives me a window "what do you want to do"22:57
podr0znikbut when entering a DVD it makes some noise for some time and does nothing22:57
Kr4t05kubuntunewbie: As flattering as that suggestion may be, keep in mind that this is a "family friendly" support chat. :)22:57
podr0znikanybody any idea what's the reason of this?22:58
draikpodr0znik: What type of computer do you have?22:58
Dr_Willis!find firestorm22:58
ubotuPackage/file firestorm does not exist in gutsy22:58
GradeFPoultryHow do I connect to another IRC channel? xD22:58
kubuntunewbieKr4t05: i understand its family friendly. what i said was hardly inappropriate.  in all due respect... lighten up ;)22:59
podr0znikdraik, normal Intel Pentium thingy22:59
draikGradeFPoultry: "/j <channel name>22:59
GradeFPoultryThanks =P22:59
draikpodr0znik: Let me rephrase. What brand? Dell? HP? Compaq?...?22:59
draikGradeFPoultry: "/j <channel name>"22:59
dsmith_my kubuntu freezes after I am away from it say +30 mins, I thought it was from the screensaver but i turned that off22:59
podr0znikdraik, built it myself22:59
draikSorry, forgot to close the quote22:59
draikpodr0znik: Check your mobo specs.22:59
podr0znikdraik, so that's a bit of everything I guess22:59
draikcheck for faulty mobo drivers and work back towards the OS.23:00
PeterPanwhere to find deb package for firestorm ?23:00
snarksterhi is there anyway to remove all the gnome crap from kubuntu?23:00
draikThe reason I ask is because my friend's Dell had the same issue. I had to clear the CMOS for it to read.23:01
draiksnarkster: !purekde23:01
snarksterwhere do you put that?23:01
draikWhoops23:01
draik!purekde | snarkster23:01
ubotusnarkster: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »23:01
draikThere you go23:01
podr0znikdraik, hm. I only don't understand why I didn't have this problem earlier (I made the DVD's myself, in the same Kubuntu version as I have right now)23:01
Dr_WillisPeterPan given that the firestorm website seems to be dead..you may want to find a different iptables monitoring tool23:02
Dr_Willis!find iptables23:02
ubotuFound: iptables, iptables-dev, arno-iptables-firewall, libiptables-ipv4-ipqueue-perl23:02
Dr_Willis!find fwmon23:02
ubotuPackage/file fwmon does not exist in gutsy23:02
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zeldaIIi've got a question about compiz/kde desktop.  I have compiz set to give me window previews when i hover over the taskbar, but kde is having a text bubble pop up as well, that says the name of the program.  How do i get that to stop?23:03
snarksterthank you23:03
draikyw23:03
snarksterI will now install kubuntu23:03
Dr_WillisPeterPan if all else fails you could use the soruce and recompile it.23:03
PeterPanDr_Willis:  any other place  to find deb package for firestorm and snort?23:04
PeterPanDr_Willis: ok23:04
Dr_Willisthe package managers have searching features for the packages that exist.    also theres the alternative/unofficial repos.23:04
Dr_Willisput 'apt:/' in konqueror - is my fave search tool23:04
sivananda!find snort23:05
ubotuFound: airsnort, oinkmaster, snort, snort-common, snort-common-libraries (and 4 others)23:05
GradeFPoultryCan someone answer some questions about QTParted for me?23:05
ardchoillePeterPan: apt-cache search snort23:05
draik!ask | GradeFPoultry23:06
ubotuGradeFPoultry: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)23:06
GradeFPoultryHaha.23:06
bogdanDr_Willis: didn't know that.. but when i try searching for something it prompts me to save an HTML file :))23:06
GradeFPoultryWell, I'm running Kubuntu from a disk right now. I need to create a partition, but keep my windows data intact.23:07
draik!someone | GradeFPoultry23:07
ubotuGradeFPoultry: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?23:07
GradeFPoultryo_O23:07
PeterPanardchoille:  it gives snort. but not firestorm. solarwolf - Collect the boxes and don't become mad23:07
sivananda!info snort | PeterPan23:07
ubotupeterpan: snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-6 (gutsy), package size 455 kB, installed size 1060 kB23:07
draikardchoille: Hey there. How are you?23:07
kiwi__im having an issue with the adept manager, whenever i open the application, a message pops up saying im not able to change my system settings and that it needs special admin root privileges23:07
draikkiwi__: You should be able to provide your own PW and gain the rights to make necessary changes.23:08
kiwi__i do hav my own pw but whenever i open the adept it doesnt ask for it23:08
ardchoilleHi draik :)23:09
draikkiwi__: What does it ask for?23:09
draikardchoille: I get 11 days of vacation as of December 22 :) December 22 to January 123:09
kiwi__it doesnt ask for anything just says You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or sudo programs to be able to perform these actions23:10
draikkiwi__: Do you have a prompt for a password?23:11
draikardchoille: Yeah Yeah Yeah23:11
kiwi__no23:11
ardchoilledraik: Quite boring, tho23:11
luvssCan't get Konqueror to find any web pages. Can ping www.google.com.23:11
draikardchoille: I get to be with my fiance for 11 days23:11
draikkiwi__: ALT+F2 "kdesu adept"23:12
draikardchoille: Recall my ISP issue?23:13
ardchoilledraik: No23:13
kiwi__draik: it said command adept not found23:13
g2g591kiwi_:try adept_manager23:14
ardchoillekiwi__: kdesu adept_manager23:14
kiwi__it opened but i got the same message saying im not able to change my system settings23:15
ardchoillekiwi__: So it prompted yo for the admin passwd?23:16
sstchurwhat do you do if the status in Adept Updater says "BROKEN (installed)" ?23:16
kiwi__no it did not23:17
g2g591sstchur:try right clicking and try to reinstall, but be check in the preview tab  what it will try to do23:18
ardchoillekiwi__: Are you able to install/remove things via command line?23:19
GrahamAHow would I make Konqueror my default file manager? I don't like Dolphin that much.23:19
LjL!dolphin | GrahamA23:20
ubotuGrahamA: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.23:20
ardchoille!dolphin | GrahamA23:20
kiwi__i dont think so, i hardly use the terminal23:20
g2g591kiwi_:it seems you might be trying to install and remove things from a nonadmin account, check in system settings to see if you are in the admin group23:20
sivanandaluvss: Sounds like maybe konqueror is configured to use a proxy that's not present...23:20
GrahamACheers23:20
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ardchoillekiwi__: See if your user is in the required groups: cat /etc/group | grep adm23:20
PeterPan_http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6246/snapshot6ol9.jpg  what should i do?23:21
draik_ardchoille: Got switched from Cable to DSL.23:22
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luvsssivananda: proxy tab is set to "connect to the internetdirectly"23:23
draikardchoille: Sorry about that. Someone called and I got taken offline23:23
draikardchoille: And that pretty much sums up the past few days with DSL23:23
ardchoilledraik: lol23:23
sivanandaluvss: Do you have another browser you can try?23:24
draikardchoille: I compared the $CABLE_ISP service to this Verizon DSL and I told them this, "I had a sooped up, non-street legal Lamborghini with a life-long pass to the autobahn. Now, I got a bicycle with two flat tires, no brakes and a rusty chain. Tell me again, how is this DSL faster than Cable?"23:25
ardchoilledraik: Would you like to join #draik ?23:26
luvsssivananda: default install of Kubuntu 7.10. I don't see one in the menu.23:26
sivanandadraik: Just curious, did you install the filters on all your phones?23:26
draikardchoille: I'm there23:26
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draiksivananda: Yes23:26
PeterPan_http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6246/snapshot6ol9.jpg  what should i do?23:26
sivanandadraik: ok just wondered. Might want to doublecheck that none have been missed. It's also possible for one to be faulty I guess. I got a bad one once with dsl23:27
draiksivananda: Only 2 phones in the house. Well, 2 that plug up. The other 2 or 3 are units which connect to a charging base; no phone line.23:30
scrubb2000Does anyone know what part of linux remembers where an application window was when it was closed?23:30
Dr_Willisscrubb2000 that would be a feture of the windowmanager23:30
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ardchoillescrubb2000: Lots of apps store that in the *rc file23:31
scrubb2000ardchoille: where is that located?  If an application isn't remembering where it was last time it ran, does that mean it's not storing that value at all?23:31
sivanandaluvss: The first thing I would try would be to install another browser and see if I can reach any sites with it...23:32
trillisHm...23:32
ardchoillescrubb2000: Many apps have their own *rc file as <appname>rc  in ~/.kde/share/config23:32
trillisCould anybody explain why my wireless internet cuts out at random times?23:32
ardchoillescrubb2000: If you look at some of those files, you'll see settings like width=blah23:33
luvsssivananda: Thanks for the help. I'll try that.23:33
trillisShouldn't really say it's my internet...23:33
sivanandadraik: my only other thought would be to make sure you have good connections on the line carrying the dsl into the house. How's the sound quality on the phones? Any 'scratchiness' on the line?23:33
draiksivananda: Good question. I don't know. I don't use the phone. I have my cell, which doesn't work too well in my area cuz of planes, and resort to IMs, IRCs and emails.23:34
root__hi23:36
root__I need help with my kubuntu23:36
draik!ask | root__23:36
uboturoot__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)23:36
Xeroroot__, it's not safe to be root.23:37
sivanandadraik: I seem to recall that at one point I was having a random disconnect issue with my DSL, and it turned out that the wire from the wall jack to the DSL modem had a partially broken wire. I replaced the wire and it was fine thereafter. But if that's your problem, it could be anywhere in the wires, even potentially in the feed into the house...23:37
XeroLog in as a different user, please. You're putting your box at risk.23:37
root__my kubunut has broke down since the las update, right now I just can work i recovery mode23:37
Xerooh23:37
XeroThat would explain the rootness then.23:37
root__If Ia try to run multiuser the computer freezes with the usplash23:37
scooter_whats the command for the terminal to make amorak play mp3's23:38
XeroTry running it without usplash (take off the splash parameter from GRUB/LILO/Whatever you use23:38
root__I woul like to know what makes my kubuntu crash, so I can downgrade23:39
ardchoilleroot__: Aren't you the one who sometimes irc's as root?23:39
Xerokernel=yourkernel-2.x.xx-XXXXXXXX ro splash23:39
root__Xero: I have done that but it down't work either23:39
Xeroremove the "splash" from that line23:39
sivanandadraik: I've heard reports from people about water occasionally getting into the phone lines causing such problems. That's something the phone company would have to fix of course...23:39
Xeroscooter_, amarok file.mp323:40
scooter_yea, but it amarok wont play .mp3 files23:40
root__I have more information but I haven't been able yo figure out what is crashing the computer23:40
scooter_and i need to dl the patch thing23:40
Xeroscooter_, apt-get search xine mp323:40
Xeroerm23:40
Xeroscooter_, apt-cache search xine mp323:40
Xero!mp323:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:40
XeroThat.23:40
scooter_thanks23:41
XeroSorry, haven't been here for a long time23:41
root__may be in /var/log/ I can fnd the info23:41
ardchoilleroot__: to be honest, if you've enebled the root account, then you've likely caused your own problems because it's easy to log in as root and eventually you're going to mess something up. I feel you should kick that "habit".23:41
Xeroardchoille, he's running in recovery mode.23:41
XeroThat's why s/he's logged in as root23:42
ardchoilleXero: Ah, my bad.23:42
root__ardchoille: if I am log as root is beacouse with the last update something has messed up in my computer23:42
XeroWell, I'll brb. Going to play with a modded motorazr and PSP, and later chip an XBox (all for legal homebrew use of course)23:42
root__ardchoille: I am trying to fix it but I dont know how23:43
ardchoilleroot__: Ok, the system crashes during the usplash phase?23:43
root__ardchoille: yes I have disable the usplash but I still don't know how to fix the problem23:44
XeroWhat's the last thing it says before phail?23:45
ardchoilleroot__: If you take the "splash" and "quiet out of menu.lst and reboot, you should be able to see what is going on. You can then use that info to tell us or maybe even figure it out.23:45
Xeroardchoille, he already took "splash" out, and usually if they take out splash they'll take out quiet too23:46
XeroI'm just guessing though.23:46
root__ardchoille: ok, but the ifo I have is not very clear23:46
XeroWhere does it hang?23:46
XeroWhat is the last thing that it says?23:46
ardchoilleroot__: You'd be surprised, some of the gurus here have helped with a minimum of info23:46
root__ardchoille: is it  posilbe to see where it hangs lookingat a log file23:47
root__?23:47
tucker#23:47
ardchoilleroot__: That's an option, tail/less some of the logs in /var/log23:47
=== root__ is now known as muimota__
muimota__ardchoille: which one?23:48
ardchoillemuimota__: I'd start with /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog23:48
cobaltanybody here familiar with efax-gtk and how to fax stuff from open office ?23:49
=== leonardo is now known as ^Costeno^
muimota__ardchoille:ok, I will try to check those files23:51
cobaltanyone?23:52
jeroenvrpgmailfs?23:53
jeroenvrpHTTP Error 400: Bad Request23:53
jeroenvrpanyone know how to fix that23:53
jeroenvrp?23:53
cobaltjero: try mail: then your url.23:57
troyfusanyone know why k-prot keeps coming up on my sudo commands??23:58
troyfusterminal konsole and synaptic23:58
mksummmmmmmmmmmm23:59
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