[00:00] <naelr> I have a toshiba with atheros and it works outta the box.. this one doesn't
[00:00] <tekteen> WaltzingAlong: I need the install cd to download and use it
[00:00] <naelr> but your getting me away from my problem
[00:00] <tekteen> WaltzingAlong:I have to install on a massive amount of computers
[00:01] <Hizzle> whats the best irc program for linux right now in windows I use mirc?
[00:01] <naelr> I have 3 kernels on this laptop
[00:01] <tekteen> I need a way to automate everything
[00:01] <Dr_willis> Hizzle,  i use Xchat under windows and linux.
[00:01] <WaltzingAlong> !backup
[00:01] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[00:01] <tekteen> and ran out of room on the cd :-)
[00:01] <WaltzingAlong> !cloning | tekteen
[00:01] <ubotu> tekteen: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[00:01] <tekteen> thanks
[00:02] <tekteen> I will look into it
[00:03] <naelr> version 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working
[00:03] <Hizzle> Dr_willis: which linux do you use?
[00:03] <coreymon77> naelr: give me a sec
[00:03] <naelr> might I need to recomplie ndiswrapper
[00:03] <naelr> coreymon77: i have been working with this thing for about 2 weeks now... ndiswrapper is only way to get this card working ..
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Hizzle,  using Kubuntu 7.10 at the moment
[00:03] <WaltzingAlong> !ndiswrapper | naelr, could grab the latest
[00:03] <ubotu> naelr, could grab the latest: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:04] <Hizzle> Oh ok thats what I am about to install onto my laptop
[00:04] <coreymon> naelr: take a look at this
[00:04] <coreymon> http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dtvgpkz_46fv8dwf
[00:04] <naelr> here is the kernel I am running
[00:04] <naelr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers
[00:05] <naelr> reading corymon
[00:05] <naelr> corymon I have it working...
[00:05] <coreymon77> huh?
[00:05] <naelr> you got me away from my question arguing about ndiswrapper and atheros
[00:06] <naelr> version 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working
[00:06] <coreymon77> oh
[00:06] <naelr> my 3 kernels
[00:06] <coreymon77> no clue then
[00:06] <naelr> might I need to recomplie ndiswrapper for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers kernel
[00:07] <coreymon77> oh
[00:07] <coreymon77> dunno then
[00:07] <WaltzingAlong> naelr: building ndiswrapper is not all that difficult
[00:08] <naelr> WaltzingAlong: I don't wanna rebuild it if it isn't even going to work...
[00:08] <smooker> does ubuntu 7.10 have integrated wine ?
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> make uninstall; make; make install, about it
[00:08] <smooker> or some other emu >
[00:08] <smooker> ?
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: no
[00:08] <WaltzingAlong> though you can install it of course
[00:09] <naelr> it was installed as a deb package... ...
[00:09] <smooker> does the popular games run fine ? :P
[00:09] <naelr> here is an oder version of my card... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/AR5006EG?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[00:09] <naelr> *older
[00:09] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: WoW? sure
[00:10] <smooker> yeah :)
[00:17] <smooker> can i view NTFS file systems with Kubuntu ?
[00:18] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: yes and write too
[00:19] <mehrez> hi
[00:20] <WaltzingAlong> mehrez: greetings
[00:20] <Doctor_Nick> how do i check what packages I installed last?
[00:20] <coreymon77> yallo
[00:20] <mehrez> i want to kow if there's a solution to ugrade from kubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu 7 with the instalation CD of Kubuntu 7
[00:21] <coreymon77> you dont need the cd
[00:22] <WaltzingAlong> mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy
[00:23] <smooker> what was the cool program for Kubuntu with the cool visual efects ?
[00:24] <WaltzingAlong> !compiz | smooker
[00:24] <ubotu> smooker: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:24] <smooker> 10x
[00:26] <Doctor_Nick> how do i check what packages I installed last?
[00:26] <WaltzingAlong> Doctor_Nick: memory. or when that fails, the list you made of which packages you installed and when.
[00:27] <WaltzingAlong> otherwise, i do not know of a way
[00:27] <gabriel_> how do i do a release / renew of my ip adress?
[00:27] <ardchoille> Doctor_Nick: If you used command line to install them, then open a terminal and do: history | grep install
[00:28] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: dhclient ethx
[00:28] <Doctor_Nick> but I dont know what dependencies it might have installed
[00:29] <gabriel_> not just a renew, i need release as well i think, so i really get a different IP address
[00:29] <ardchoille> Doctor_Nick: Did you use apt-get or aptitude ?
[00:29] <Doctor_Nick> apt-get
[00:30] <ardchoille> Doctor_Nick: You might have a look in /var/log/apt
[00:30] <Doctor_Nick> thanks
[00:30] <ardchoille> yw
[00:30] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: even so, the dhcp server likely gives the same as the lease has not yet expired
[00:31] <smooker> after i install compiz
[00:31] <smooker> how i can get to the configuration ?
[00:32] <smooker> and where is it located ?
[00:32] <WaltzingAlong> smooker: kmenu/settings/advanced desktop effects settings
[00:32] <Dr_willis> !ccsm
[00:32] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
 mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy
[00:32] <mehrez> i can't understund well!
[00:33] <ardchoille> mehrez: are you wanting to upgrade?
[00:35] <firec> How do I find out which release of *buntu a machine is running from the CLI?
[00:36] <ardchoille> firec: lsb_release -a
[00:36] <ardchoille> firec: or: lsb_release -a | grep Release
[00:36] <firec> Thanks
[00:36] <ardchoille> yw
[00:37] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong:  it gives me a different one in windows when i do release renew, usually.
[00:38] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: that's why i want those two operations in linux...
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: ifconfig ethx down; ifconfig ethx up
[00:39] <smooker> omg compiz just rox
[00:39] <smooker> :D
[00:39] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: or sudo dhcpcd -k
[00:41] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: are you SURE that those two correspond to release / renew in windows?
[00:42] <WaltzingAlong> to release the address the command should return the the dhcp release to the dhcp server which bringing down and up the device will not do
[00:42] <gabriel_> for instance, ifconfig down, doesn't that only affect my machines status, and not the dhcp server? and same thing with up?
[00:42] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: well then. then ifconfig cannot do what i ask...
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> mostly you should search the manuals
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> and a quick search of the web thanks to google
[00:43] <trillis> I got pidgin!
[00:43] <tyfon> sudo ifdown ethX and sudo ifup ethX
[00:43] <gabriel_> yeah i'm searching as well
[00:43] <WaltzingAlong> then you would come across the dhclient command which will issue the dhcp release when passed the -r
[00:43] <coreymon77> trillis: yay
[00:43] <trillis> I kinda did.
[00:43] <trillis> It's an rpm file..
[00:44] <coreymon77> ...
[00:44] <coreymon77> why not just go to www.getdeb.net
[00:44] <coreymon77> trillis: and get it as a deb
[00:44]  * trillis feels stuped
[00:44] <crimsun> ...because getdeb.net is /not/ a vetted repo.
[00:45] <coreymon77> okay then
[00:45] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: thanks
[00:45] <coreymon77> is it on apt for feisty
[00:45] <crimsun> it is a third-party repo, but to recommend it without at least appending a significant caveat is foolish.
[00:45] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: cheers
[00:45] <trillis> How do I find it on that site?
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: i meant go to the site and get the one file
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: not add it as a repo
[00:46] <trillis> I tried the search funtion and got: Distro id not found
[00:46] <crimsun> coreymon77: makes no difference.
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: its on the main page
[00:46] <coreymon77> trillis: that was meant for you
[00:46] <coreymon77> crimsun: well then what do you suggest
[00:46] <coreymon77> alien?
[00:47] <crimsun> ...no.
[00:47] <crimsun> work on updating the current source package accordingly.
[00:47] <coreymon77> meh?
[00:48] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: "There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519120" it says...
[00:49] <coreymon77> crimsun: how do you suggest getting it for feisty?
[00:49] <WaltzingAlong> man dhclient           | gabriel_
[00:50] <crimsun> coreymon77: what I said above, and then requesting a backport to feisty once 2.3.0 is vetted into hardy.
[00:50] <gabriel_> yeah already on it :)
[00:50] <trillis> I don't see it on the main page...
[00:51] <WaltzingAlong> gabriel_: there is already the pid is not an error
[00:51] <coreymon77> crimsun: i doont get what you meant by above
[00:52] <Tarin> how do enable nvidia drivers?
[00:52] <Tarin> and install
[00:52] <crimsun> coreymon77: "update the hardy source package to 2.3.0 - by merging and updating the Ubuntuised source package - and once that source package is accepted into hardy, request a backport to feisty"
[00:52] <coreymon77> and how do i do that?
[00:53] <ardchoille> !nvidia | Tarin
[00:53] <ubotu> Tarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:53] <coreymon77> crimsun: and what does trillis do in the mean time
[00:54] <gabriel_> WaltzingAlong: but how come  i didn't loose my internet connection then?
[00:54] <crimsun> coreymon77: whatever s/he wants
[00:54] <coreymon77> crimsun: as in, not get pidgin?
[00:54] <crimsun> coreymon77: I am recommending the vetted protocol as someone who has upload privileges.
[00:54] <dwsdad> hello
[00:54] <trillis> I can't find it...
[00:54] <trillis> :(
[00:55] <khatahn> hi, anyone happen to know if there is an ubuntu package of the latest Flash 9 release somewhere?
[00:55] <FireCrotch> Hi, dwsdad
[00:55] <dwsdad> Hi, Fire
[00:55] <WaltzingAlong> !flash | khatahn
[00:55] <ubotu> khatahn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:55] <coreymon77> crimsun: englishplease
[00:55] <dwsdad> anyone have time for a smb4k question(s)?
[00:55] <crimsun> khatahn: we ship 9.0.48 in multiverse.
[00:55] <khatahn> WaltzingAlong: it's not the latest
[00:55] <trillis> Google found it for me <3...
[00:55] <crimsun> (or rather, we ship a script that grabs 9.0.48)
[00:56] <khatahn> crimsun: yeah, it's just that i'm looking for the new fullscreen feature which is not supported on that version
[00:56] <crimsun> coreymon77: I have a responsibility to recommend "proper" procedure for getting newer versions of software.
[00:56] <crimsun> khatahn: there is no newer stable version.
[00:56] <FireCrotch> coreymon77: what crimsun is saying is that rather than using a .deb found on some third party site, an official version should be used
[00:56] <coreymon77> crimsun: im not talking about newer versions, im talking about getting it period
[00:57] <crimsun> coreymon77: getting it /period/ is moot; Ubuntu ships it in the main component.
[00:57] <coreymon77> crimsun: apparently t\cant find it on apt
[00:57] <FireCrotch> coreymon77: in fiesty it's called gaim
[00:58] <Marfi> whenever i close amarok, it unmounts the drive that its playing music from. how do i stop it from doing this?
[00:58] <khatahn> crimsun: but there's a release candidate. i was just wondering if someone knows an unofficial ubuntu package somewhere
[00:58] <coreymon77> trillis: you hear that? for feisty its gaim not pidgin
[00:58] <crimsun> khatahn: I don't know of one, but that certainly does not preclude its existence.
[00:58] <ardchoille> I thought trillis was on Futsy
[00:59] <ardchoille> *Gutsy
[00:59] <crimsun> khatahn: and I certainly don't recommend its usage, since it's broken IME.
[00:59] <coreymon77> trillis: im confused, which one are you on
[00:59] <ardchoille> trillis: Open a terminal and do: lsb_release -a
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> Marfi: #amarok..
[01:00] <khatahn> crimsun: i didn't really like it either when i installed it manually, just thought i'd give it another go
[01:00] <trillis> Sorry, brb.
[01:01] <Marfi> ty
[01:01] <Marfi> figured go here, since amarok is a KDE app. ;)
[01:01] <WaltzingAlong> figured come to #kubuntu because #amarok is a #kde app?
[01:03] <WaltzingAlong> Marfi: amarok, devices on the left side bar, configure, then the command for unmounting? or not
[01:11] <trillis> Well, I have the Pidgin deb file... For some reason it opened its self in Kate, and now I can't save it... Something about how saving it in Binary form will leave it currupted.
[01:12] <coreymon77> trillis: dont use the deb
[01:12] <trillis> ...
[01:12] <coreymon77> trillis: are you on feisty or gutsy
[01:12] <trillis> You just said to use tit...
[01:12] <trillis> Kubuntu...
[01:12] <coreymon77> trillis: feisty or gutsy
[01:13] <trillis> Er, I think its gutsy...
[01:13] <FireCrotch> trillis: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a
[01:14] <FireCrotch> trillis: that will tell you for sure
[01:14] <coreymon> which one is it?
[01:15] <trillis> ubuntu
[01:15] <trillis> Dapper?
[01:15] <FireCrotch> trillis:  it says "Codename: Dapper" ?
[01:16] <jobbe> you guys wouldn't know a repository that offers x.org 7.3 by any chance?
[01:16] <trillis> Yes.
[01:16] <coreymon> wow, youre not even on edgy
[01:16] <ardchoille> trillis: That's quite an old release, tho it's still supported.
[01:16] <ardchoille> !info gaim Dapper
[01:16] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[01:17] <trillis> I want Pidgin though...
[01:17] <ardchoille> trillis: If you're planning to stick with Dapper and want to try pidgin, open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install gaim
[01:18] <ardchoille> trillis: gaim changed names to pidgin
[01:18] <coreymon> trillis: pidgin is gaim and gaim is pidgin
[01:18] <trillis> Yaay, it's working.
[01:18] <coreymon> trillis: they just changed their  name to pidgin because of legal issue
[01:18] <coreymon> s
[01:18] <ardchoille> trillis: You threw us when you said you were on Gutsy
[01:18] <trillis> Aah, sorry.
[01:18]  * trillis is a nub
[01:18] <ardchoille> np
[01:19] <ardchoille> I remember Dapper being quite a solid release
[01:19] <Radi01> pidgin/gaim is cool.
[01:21] <trillis> Thanksa
[01:21] <trillis> THanks*
[01:22] <ardchoille> trillis: Enjoy
[01:24] <ardchoille> dthacker: What is the name that was decided on for the kubuntu news?
[01:24] <ardchoille> s/name/page/
[01:25] <Selanit> I'm having a weird problem with Firefox.  Sometimes, but not reliably, I'll click a link, and the page will /appear/ to load but not really.  That is, the URL in the address bar changes to the new address, the loading throbber runs for a while and then finishes, I get status updates - but the viewport still shows the previous page.
[01:26] <Selanit> I can make it display the page properly by resizing the window, but it's a serious pain in the butt.
[01:26] <Selanit> Anybody else have this problem?
[01:26] <neur1> is that the new firefox? (updated) because mine does that too
[01:27] <ardchoille> Selanit: Never seen that problem. I have ff installed, do you have a url for that?
[01:28] <Selanit> ardchoille: No, I don't have an URL.  It's not limited to any one site.  I've seen it happen with Google searches, my own web sites, my school web site, randomly.  There's no apparent pattern.
[01:28] <neur1> sometimes it load a blank page and says it's done
[01:28] <Selanit> Mine's been doing it for at least three months
[01:29] <Radi01> did you clear your cache and error control?
[01:29] <Selanit> I've tried hard refreshes (CTRL + SHIFT + R ignores cache).  What do you mean by error control, tho?
[01:29] <Radi01> undet tools
[01:29] <Radi01> r
[01:29] <Selanit> Eh?
[01:30] <Radi01> under tools
[01:30] <Selanit> Oh, the error CONSOLE, not the error control
[01:30] <Radi01> ya
[01:30] <Selanit> I hadn't thought to check there, but I'm not seeing anything
[01:31] <smooker> anyone know some other cool program like compiz ?
[01:32] <Selanit> I knew I should have made a screenshot.  It's not doing it at the moment.  I wish I could figure out some way of reliably reproducing the problem.
[01:38] <somekool> YO
[01:39] <somekool> is there a way to rerun the keyboard selection application from the install once kubuntu is installed?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> its proberly setting the default in ...(let me check)
[01:39] <smooker> how i termina application ?
[01:39] <smooker> terminate *
[01:40] <Dr_willis>  /etc/console-setup/config -  has some keyboard settings in there.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> smooker,  depends.  use xkill in a terminal, then click on the app you want to kill - is one way
[01:43] <smooker> haha its cool 10x :D
[01:43] <smooker> quite easy :D
[01:46] <Radi01> Ubuntu has an icon for that , dont know about kubuntu.
[01:47] <draik> I got an icon theme from kde-look.org. The icon images are 128x128. Even with the spcified 22, they have the spaces for 128x128
[01:48] <smooker> btw Kubuntu is on 4GB dvd how Ubuntu is only on 1 CD ?
[01:48] <smooker> :O
[01:48] <Dr_willis> smooker,  look closer.. they both have cd and dvd versions
[01:49] <Dr_willis> and a live cd, and a alternative cd. version
[01:49] <smooker> is there way to download 5/4 cd's not dvd ?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> theres no need to download several cd's you wont gain much by using the dvd either.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> the dvd may have some extra packages.. but i think mainly its a live cd + the alternative installercd.
[01:50] <draik> Dr_willis: Sounds about right
[01:50] <Dr_willis> i dont think the dvd Installs any of the extra packages.
[01:51] <Dr_willis> and of course - it proberly wont have the updates.
[01:51] <ubuntu_is_awesom> the mouse cursor in 7.10 amd64 is invisble... on nvidia 5200, any help?
[01:53] <draik> For everyone here with DSL... What is the purpose to the filters the ISP gives you?
[01:53] <draik> They don't seem to make a difference
[01:53] <draik> Either way, connection drops when a phone call enters
[01:53] <Dr_willis> are you using the nvidia driver at this time? or the nv driver?
[01:54] <ubuntu_is_awesom> who is?
[01:54] <ubuntu_is_awesom> bah, ubuntu is shit
[01:54] <Radi01> Then you may have the filters in the wrong place?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> and its 'short attention span theater' today on #kubuntu
[01:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:55] <Radi01> That looked like a setup.
[01:55] <zibrah3ed> draik : Filters are there to "filter" any high pitch noise that the modem might make during phone calls
[01:56] <Radi01> If its a barrel filter make sure its not backwards.
[01:56] <draik_> Stupid DSL connection just gave me 200 s lag.
[01:56] <draik_> So what is the purpose of a DSL filter if it doesn't make a change?
[01:57] <draik_> DSL connection dies when a call enters.
[01:57] <draik_> :(
[01:57] <Radi01> Go back and look and see if they are installed right.
[01:57] <Radi01> and not backwards
[01:57] <Dr_willis> or sideways
[01:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:57] <Radi01> lol
[01:59] <zibrah3ed> Draik_: OPr installed on your modems line
[01:59] <draik_> We aren't using any at this time.
[02:00] <draik_> We took them off
[02:00] <Radi01> There is one that uses both phone and modem on same line.
[02:00] <draik_> DSL won't even give me 100KB/s downloads
[02:00] <draik_> I miss my $CABLE_ISP and the 300KB/s connections
[02:00] <Radi01> Somthing is draging the line/somewhere
[02:00] <Radi01> Who is the provider
[02:01] <draik_> Verizon
[02:01] <draik_> America's #1 blah blah blah
[02:01] <Radi01> lol
[02:01] <draik_> America's #1 piss off!
[02:01] <draik_> This makes me want to have High-Speed Dial-Up
[02:02] <Hizzle> I was wondering I am about to install kubuntu on laptop and replace vista, now for all the hardware like vid card, webcam, etc do I gotta individually get drivers for each one so they work with linux or how does that work?
[02:02] <draik_> Hizzle: You should be ready to go with the install
[02:02] <draik_> What is your video card?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Hizzle,  rarely. The video card and network cards (wireless) are progerly the only things you may need todownload stuff for to get full ussage
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Linux blows windows away in this area. :)
[02:03] <Radi01> Just rte-check everything/im sure youll find somthing/plus/you might mant to reset your modem from the (back).
[02:03] <draik_> Radi01: I've done that so many times. I've given that crappy modem/router amnesia by now
[02:03] <Radi01> hahaha
[02:03] <Radi01> what about old wire?
[02:04] <draik_> That's probably the cause. It forgot what it is and what to do.
[02:04] <Hizzle> alright I just want everything to work fine I am in the military and I am gone alot and the laptop is my way of chattin with my wife
[02:05] <draik_> Hizzle: You should be ready to go from the start. I don't believe you will have any issues with the install and usage.
[02:05] <Radi01> Hizzle: you will be glad you did.
[02:05] <Hizzle> alright thanks
[02:05] <Hizzle> thats what I keep hearing
[02:06] <Radi01> I sent bill gates packing 1 yr ago.
[02:06] <draik_> To top it off, Verizon told my mom that DSL was going to be faster than the cable internet we currently had.
[02:06] <zibrah3ed> lol
[02:06] <Hizzle> hehehe thats funny
[02:06] <SpeS> hi
[02:06] <SpeS> I'm trying to connect with a rt2561 pci card, and I can't by now :(
[02:07] <draik_> Radi01: 6/1/6 was the last time I had windows as my main OS
[02:07] <Radi01> 1.5 is ok..its what i have and i have 200 download connect.
[02:07] <SpeS> the module rt61pci is loaded
[02:07] <Minataku> Radi01: 3 years here
[02:07] <SpeS> but I can't configure the card...
[02:07] <SpeS> can't connect :(
[02:07] <Radi01> embarq.
[02:07] <smooker> 3 years ?
[02:08] <smooker> o.o
[02:08] <SpeS> is it possible to use it with the system installed by default?
[02:08] <zibrah3ed> SpeS: Never had luck with the open source drivers have you tried ndiswrapper
[02:08] <Radi01> draik: could be a card at the hub: i had that problem with buffering till i made them change it.
[02:08] <SpeS> no, only trying with the rt61pci it brings
[02:09] <zibrah3ed> !ndiswrapper
[02:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:09] <CadaverPimp> I need to tell people to stop calling my house for the next few years
[02:09] <SpeS> zibrah3ed, I think there are official drivers from ralink
[02:09] <CadaverPimp> I get such a stupid lag when people call
[02:09] <SpeS> apart from free software ones
[02:09] <SpeS> ubotu, ok, thx
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <zibrah3ed> SpeS: I have a similar card and have never got them working, dhcp gives an error
[02:10] <SpeS> errrrr, a bot, ok... ^_^'
[02:10] <Radi01> ubotu smart
[02:10] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[02:10] <Radi01> oops
[02:10] <heinkel_111> !flac
[02:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:10] <G-RegZ> hello all
[02:10] <Minataku> smooker: I stopped using Windows 3 years ago
[02:10] <Minataku> Over, actually
[02:11] <smooker> aww
[02:11] <smooker> u use kubuntu ?
[02:11] <Radi01> I cant stand windows now.
[02:11] <heinkel_111> which is recommended kubuntu program to rip audio cd to flac format now?
[02:11] <heinkel_111> kaudocreator?
[02:11] <zibrah3ed> no will all us PClinuxos
[02:11] <zibrah3ed> we just like to talk
[02:11] <SpeS> zibrah3ed, so you got it right with ndiswrapper?
[02:11] <zibrah3ed> Spes: Yeah
[02:12] <Radi01> Imagine all the money these software people made giving out garbage.
[02:12] <SpeS> I've never tryed that
[02:12] <zibrah3ed> Spes: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[02:12] <SpeS> zibrah3ed, I've got no inet
[02:12] <SpeS> ...
[02:12] <smooker> wow wait what soft ?
[02:12] <zibrah3ed> Spes: Find windows driver and " sudo ndiswrapper -l  *.inf"
[02:12] <Minataku> smooker: I started with SuSE
[02:12] <smooker> what you use now ?
[02:12] <Minataku> Then transitioned to Gentoo where I've been since
[02:13] <Radi01> How did you like suse
[02:13] <zibrah3ed> Spes: Ndiswrapper is included, but not installed by default on the livecd
[02:13] <Minataku> It was good back then
[02:13] <smooker> and now u use.. ?
[02:13] <SpeS> I'll try it then if I don't advance with this one... thanks
[02:13] <Minataku> smooker: I told you Gentoo
[02:13] <SpeS> ahm good
[02:13] <Radi01> I started with mandrake/got tired of reinstalling 1nce a week.
[02:14] <smooker> aw sry im not good in english :)
[02:14] <Minataku> lol
[02:14] <smooker> dont laught xD
[02:14] <Minataku> I'm laughing because it's not an English issue
[02:14] <Radi01> chuckles then
[02:15] <Minataku> You just missed me saying it
[02:15] <Minataku> Plus, I laugh all the time
[02:15] <Minataku> So don't take it personally :3
[02:15] <smooker> no i didnt missed i just didnt understand it..
[02:15] <smooker> the "since"..
[02:15] <smooker> but now i know what it is :D
[02:16] <Minataku> Ah
[02:16] <Minataku> Sorry then
[02:16] <smooker> so is gentoo good :P for games :) ?
[02:16] <ciperlone> hello
[02:16] <Minataku> Heh
[02:17] <Minataku> It's a fairly "hardcore" distro
[02:17] <Minataku> You do everything yourself
[02:17] <smooker> lol exactly for me xDD
[02:17] <zibrah3ed> smooker: Its more effort than its worth
[02:17] <ciperlone> does anyone here knows the differente between karamba and superkaramba?
[02:17] <Radi01> compileing everything
[02:18] <Minataku> zibrah3ed: WRONG
[02:18] <smooker> my first try on linux was solaris xD (terrible setup) :P
[02:18] <Dr_willis> one has more features... both are sort of lacking. :)
[02:18] <Radi01> Actually, I started on 3.1 in 96. I've come along way baby.
[02:18] <zibrah3ed> Minataku: Right!! you could spend half a day compiling so OO starts .3 seconds faster
[02:19] <Minataku> I also started with Windows 3.1 on MS-DOS 5.00
[02:19] <Minataku> But earlier
[02:19] <Minataku> I started in 1991
[02:19] <Radi01> I liked it..never crashed on me.
[02:19] <Minataku> zibrah3ed: Kindly cease your attempts at trolling otherwise I will report you
[02:19] <Minataku> Also, the default for OO.o is a binary package
[02:19] <Minataku> One of the rare few
[02:21] <Radi01> Back when 1`2mhz was (fast).
[02:21] <Radi01> 12
[02:21] <Radi01> magine that
[02:21] <ardchoille> lol
[02:21] <smooker> is there linux for floppy which can run on laptop with  no hdd ?
[02:22] <ardchoille> smooker: I think you'd evenhave trouble getting the kernel on a floppy
[02:22] <smooker> i tryed win 3.1 but doesnt boot
[02:22] <Minataku> Heh
[02:22] <Minataku> I had a 33MHz 386
[02:23] <smooker> Minataku
[02:23] <zibrah3ed> smooker: List of floppy dists http://users.sunet.com.au/~tsn/floppy_linux.html
[02:23] <ardchoille> smooker: That lappy got a dc-rom drive?
[02:23] <smooker> can u help it is Toshiba sattelite T1850c
[02:23] <ardchoille> *cd
[02:23] <smooker> have only floppy
[02:23] <smooker> i dont know if its 386 or other :(
[02:24] <beefjerky> Is there an official fix to the non-free flash plugin causing firefox to hang issue?  Firefox freezes just about any time I interrupt any Flash content. Running Gutsy with Flash 9
[02:24] <apparle> The CDs shipped have KDE4 ??????????
[02:25] <Radi01> I think they only ship official releases.
[02:26] <zibrah3ed> apparle: No I think just dolphin
[02:26] <word> apparle: kde4 will be released later this month i think o.O
[02:26] <ardchoille> apparle: kde4 is in the repos, not on the cd
[02:27] <smooker> how do i change my password here ?
[02:27] <Minataku> Heh
[02:27] <ardchoille> word: It's been delayed until January
[02:27] <Minataku> I collect old computers
[02:27] <Minataku> As for one-floppy Linux distros... don't bother
[02:27] <Radi01> till jan?
[02:27] <Minataku> Stick DR-DOS 7.03 on it, smooker
[02:27] <ardchoille> smooker: /msg nickserv set password new_pass_here
[02:27] <Minataku> Hm... Satellite T1850C
[02:27] <Minataku> How old is that
[02:27] <Minataku> The oldest Toshiba I have is a T1200
[02:28] <Radi01> Another boat anchor?
[02:28] <Minataku> Intel i80C86 @ 9.54MHz
[02:28] <ardchoille> Door stop
[02:28] <Minataku> Radi01 and archoille: Do not troll other users.
[02:28] <Radi01> wow 9.5 / to druel for.
[02:28] <Minataku> I don't take such comments lightly
[02:28] <ardchoille> Minataku: You do it to others, so I thought you'd be acceptable to that, sorry.
[02:28] <Minataku> Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad, and trying to anger me will cause you to be reported to channel operators
[02:29] <smooker> Minataku can we chat private ?
[02:29] <Radi01> shakes.
[02:29] <bascule> :)
[02:30] <oobe> does anyone know why some streaming sites wont work with mplayer plugin and firefox using 64 bit
[02:31] <Hizzle> Kubuntu is a full OS right I dont need linux already installed do I?
[02:31] <zibrah3ed> correct
[02:31] <ardchoille> Hizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu has it already
[02:32] <Hizzle> ok I am new to this whole thing, trying to get my feet wet
[02:32] <Radi01> take your time.
[02:32] <beefjerky> oobe: I've had similar problems. VLC works better, imho.  You could try the media player connectivity extension of firefox to use VLC instead
[02:32] <ardchoille> Hizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu = Linux distribution
[02:32] <Radi01> ya use the (mosilla vlc) plugin.
[02:32] <Radi01> mozilla
[02:34] <beefjerky> but i'm still having problems with FF2 hanging on sites with Flash... no one else has this issue?
[02:34] <zibrah3ed> me too
[02:34] <Radi01> Most dont use 64 bit.
[02:35] <beefjerky> radi01: was that directed to me? if so, i use 32bit
[02:36] <beefjerky> ftr, opera does not seem to be affected by this (but my precious extensions!)
[02:36] <Radi01> no just most that have that use 64..in your case #ubuntu may help..it has allot of traffic and some one there might help
[02:37] <beefjerky> radi01: yea, i've seen a lot of people report this "bug" and a lot of "workarounds" but no one method had everyone on board, and i don't want to go about symlinking and deleting directories
[02:37] <Radi01> dont blame ya.
[02:37] <pierreth> hello, I think there are a package of supplementary applications for kde, what it's name?
[02:37] <ardchoille> !info kubuntu-extras
[02:37] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-extras does not exist in gutsy
[02:38] <ardchoille> Well, that wasn't it
[02:38] <pierreth> is it replace with something else?
[02:38] <Radi01> you mean kd4?
[02:38] <ardchoille> It's there, I just don't remember the package name
[02:38] <beefjerky> pierreth: what do you need that you can't get using Adept or compiling yourself?
[02:39] <pierreth> beefjerky: it don't remember exactly, I was having more kde application with my older version of Kubuntu
[02:39] <ardchoille> pierreth: If you can name a few apps, someone could tell you what you need.
[02:39] <beefjerky> pierreth: have you looked into Add/Remove Programs?  There's tons of stuff you can add
[02:40] <pierreth> beefjerky: yes, too much, this is where I need to find it
[02:40] <alastor> allo
[02:40] <pierreth> a remember using a time tracking application
[02:40] <beefjerky> pierreth: Kalarm?
[02:41] <pierreth> an another application to take notes
[02:41] <pierreth> beefjerky: may be
[02:41] <beefjerky> pierreth: knotes?
[02:41] <ardchoille> !karm
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <pierreth> beefjerky: should I install separatly?
[02:41] <LjL> !info karm
[02:41] <ubotu> karm: KDE time tracker tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1320 kB
[02:41] <pierreth> beefjerky: I already have knotes
[02:42] <ardchoille> pierreth: kdeutils ?
[02:42] <pierreth> ardchoille: may be, I will look...
[02:43] <ardchoille> pierreth: apt-cache show kdeutils
[02:43] <ardchoille> Have a look at the Depends
[02:43] <pierreth> ardchoille: it was it!! :-)
[02:44] <ardchoille> Thought so :)
[02:44] <beefjerky> ardchoille solves yet another mystery :)
[02:44] <pierreth> I had a problem upgrading
[02:44] <bazhang> haha
[02:44] <pierreth> I took my old user directory from version 7.06
[02:45] <ardchoille> pierreth: 7.06?
[02:45] <pierreth> well the version before 7.10?
[02:45] <ardchoille> 7.04
[02:45] <pierreth> OK :-)
[02:46] <beefjerky> ardchoille: i've seen others mention 7.06 before too... i wonder if there *was* something...
[02:46] <ardchoille> 6.06 was only .06 because it had been delayed some weeks to polish it and make it an LTS
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> Probably thinking of 6.06
[02:46] <pierreth> Everything was OK but my shortcuts to start applications were not working?
[02:46] <beefjerky> makes sense.
[02:46] <holzmodem> hi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps (kubuntu)
[02:47] <pierreth> these are not in the user directory?
[02:47] <ardchoille> pierreth: You mean your $HOME dir?
[02:47] <beefjerky> holzmodem: alt+f2 > appearance and themes
[02:47] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes
[02:47] <ardchoille> beefjerky: iirc, font *color* isn't in the settings
[02:47] <pierreth> I running 7.10 with my old 7.04 directory
[02:48] <beefjerky> ardchoille: youre probably right, and i forgot "kcontrol" in there anyway
[02:48] <ardchoille> He'd have to write it into ~/.gtkrc-2 I think
[02:49] <pierreth> is the file format for keyboard shortcuts has change in version 7.10?
[02:49] <ardchoille> pierreth: And which shortcuts are you speaking of? Desktop shortcuts? kmenu items?
[02:49] <beefjerky> ardchoille: even if he uses the KDE style in gtk?
[02:49] <ardchoille> beefjerky: Not sure about that one
[02:49] <holzmodem> beefjerky: i using kde, the fontcolor in kcontrol is set to lightgrey, but the font in gtk apps is still  black
[02:49] <pierreth> ardchoille: my personal keyboard shortcuts that I had in the K menu
[02:50] <pierreth> ardchoille: There were all gone once in 7.10
[02:50] <beefjerky> holzmdoem: have you tried making gtk use KDE styles (it's in kcontrol>appearance and themes)  If that doesn't work, you'll probably have to tweak the settings manually :(
[02:50] <ardchoille> pierreth: Did you copy over the ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename> file too?
[02:51] <ardchoille> pierreth: Also, if you didn't explicitly save those kb shorcuts to a file, they may be gone. I had to tangle with that too.
[02:51] <pierreth> ardchoille: What I did is that I hype out my user directory and I replaced it with the one that I had in 7.04
[02:52] <ardchoille> pierreth: That happened with me and I found the problem was that I didn't save the shortcuts
[02:53] <pierreth> ardchoille: What do you mean, not saved? There are not in the user directory?
[02:53] <ardchoille> pierreth: kde uses them, but to save them to disk yu need to save them to a file. they are saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename>
[02:54] <ardchoille> At least that is what I was told
[02:54] <pierreth> ardchoille: Aren't they saved each I save the K menu with the editor?
[02:55] <pierreth> each time, I mean
[02:55] <ardchoille> pierreth: Nope, kmenu otems and keyboard shortcuts are two different things.. unless you mean your kmenu item shortcuts.
[02:56] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes, I mean kmenu item shortcuts
[02:56] <ardchoille> Those should have been saved in ~/.config/menus/ somewhere
[02:56] <ardchoille> pierreth: You can always open kmenuedit and re-enter them
[02:57] <pierreth> ardchoille: yes, I did that. I just wanted to understand why
[02:57] <apparle> genii: are you there
[02:57] <pierreth> ardchoille: Otherwise, everything was the way I left
[02:58] <pierreth> I did just that when I moved my kde suff from the mac ppc to an intel pc
[02:58] <ardchoille> pierreth: You can save some time/hassle by putting $HOME on its own partiton next time you install. This will keep your user dir just the way you left it
[02:58] <somekool> i installed ubuntu, then installed the kubuntu-desktop and I lost the french-canadian keyboard. I tried every options in kcontrol. is it possible to re-run the tool that kubuntu uses at install time ?
[02:59] <pierreth> ardchoille: what should I use to format and partition the disk?
[03:00] <pierreth> I was very happy to see my desktop the way I left it even if it was a complety different machine
[03:00] <ardchoille> pierreth: That can be done in the kubuntu installer or you can use gparted/qtparted for that, but don't worry about it until you next install
[03:00] <pierreth> this is very nice
[03:01] <ardchoille> somekool: Have you tried the Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout tools in kcontrol?
[03:01] <pierreth> ardchoille: could I use to make an easy install of BSD?
[03:01] <ardchoille> pierreth: I know nothing about BSD, sorry
[03:02] <pierreth> ardchoille: could I partition without formatting?
[03:02] <ardchoille> pierreth: Making a partition without formatting that partition with a file system is useless
[03:02] <ardchoille> You need an fs on the part
[03:03] <pierreth> ardchoille: I mean without formatting the whole disk
[03:03] <rick_> how do I set the clock on right bottom corner to show 12 hour time in AM & PM ?
[03:03] <ardchoille> pierreth: Oh, yes, you can make a new part and format just that part, but be very careful as one mistake can destroy other partitions. I would recommend you learn more about partitioning
[03:04] <pierreth> ardchoille: OK, and how can I learn?
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> rick_- right click -> Date and Time Format
[03:05] <ardchoille> rick_: Right click the clock, choose Date & Time Format, go to the Times & Dates tab and change the Time format
[03:05] <ardchoille> rick_: If it tells you that you need to log out and back in, just restart kicker: dcop kicker default restart
[03:06]  * Dr_willis still thinks 12 hr should be the default...
[03:06] <Dr_willis> and the darn clock should have a simple show 12/24 hr toggle. :)
[03:06] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: I agree with the toggle
[03:06] <Dr_willis> I may want 12 hr in the clock.. and 24 hr format in my docs. or somthing :
[03:06] <somekool> many packages missing for ubuntu, its annoying (simdock for example)
[03:07] <ardchoille> somekool: There is a way to fix that ;)
[03:07] <somekool> ardchoille: yes I tried kcontrol, I cannot find the proper variant for the keyboard I want. but the kubuntu install tool works fine.
[03:07] <ardchoille> somekool: Learn to package, then submit packages :)
[03:07] <ardchoille> somekool: Ah, ok
[03:07] <rick_> thanks ardcholle, that did it
[03:07] <ardchoille> rick_: yw
[03:08] <somekool> ardchoille: is there a "making deb packages for dummies" yet?
[03:08] <Evil_> where can I get the C/++ include files? it says I don't have them
[03:08] <ardchoille> somekool: I have a url for a tutorial, hold on..
[03:08] <somekool> ardchoille: do you know if I can rerun the install tool just to find the proper keybaord variant?
[03:08] <Dr_willis> Evil_,  install 'build-essentials' yet? (or was it build-essential
[03:08] <ardchoille> somekool: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html  and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[03:08] <Evil_> nope
[03:09] <Evil_> I probably should, eh? lol
[03:09] <ardchoille> somekool: I don't know about that
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Evil_,  yep.. You are overcoming your windows training grasshopper.. you will go far..
[03:09] <ardchoille> build-essential
[03:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:09] <Evil_> lmao
[03:09] <ardchoille> lol
[03:09] <Dr_willis> 'you must throw off the harness and blinders of the gates and the windows'
[03:10] <Dr_willis> 'and achieve the zen of the gpl'
[03:10] <Dr_willis> 'use the foss luke!'
[03:10] <Evil_> lmao
[03:10] <Evil_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? == any way to fix this, I usually just restart my computer
[03:10] <ardchoille> Dr_willis++
[03:10] <ardchoille> Evil_: Close your other package managers and try again
[03:11] <apparle> how to use kdevelop
[03:11] <Evil_> I don't see any open lol
[03:12] <Evil_> guess I just have to restart lol, brb
[03:12] <ardchoille> Evil_: Did you have an adept crash maybe?
[03:14] <rick_> anyone here use Quanta+ ?
[03:14] <apparle> what is new in kde 4
[03:15] <ardchoille> bugs
[03:15]  * ardchoille hides
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> It's funny cause it's true
[03:16] <apparle> and what is new in gutsy over fiesty
[03:16] <ardchoille> Restricted manager was the only thing I noticed
[03:17] <oobe> gutsy has ntfs-3g pre configured
[03:17] <pjeide> I have the nvidia-glx-new drivers installed (100.14.19).  I have two monitors.. 1680x1050 and 1024x768.  By using the XServer Display Configuration option in nvidia-settings I was able to set up both screens appropriately.
[03:17] <oobe> it also has mythbuntu
[03:17] <pjeide> However, when I go to my Monitor & Display settings in KDE my system thinks I have a 2704x1050 desktop.  Is there a way to configure the system so that it recognizes two distinct screens?  There is an option in "SIze, Orientation & Positioning" for second screen, but it doesn't let me check the box for second screen.
[03:17] <pjeide> Is that a problem with my xorg.conf..?
[03:18] <oobe> pjeide, i have the same thing it has never mattered
[03:18] <pjeide> oobe: I want to play games at fullscreen on one montior
[03:18] <ardchoille> pjeide: Did you click the Admin Mode button on the bottom?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  you using nvidia card?
[03:18] <pjeide> but wine and directx only see my screen @ 2704x1050
[03:18] <pjeide> ardchoille: yes
[03:18] <pjeide> Dr_willis: yes
[03:19] <apparle> I have ATI drivers installed and set he screen to 1280x1024. but the logon screen has a diffrent resolution. what to do
[03:19] <oobe> you need to configure it to lauch using xinerame one screem x
[03:19] <oobe> *xinerama
[03:19] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  for my nvidia systems. I had to enable the twinview settings using the nvidia contrll tool. THEN restart the X server for the programs to see it right.
[03:19] <pjeide> I am not currently using xinerama, perhaps that might help
[03:20] <Dr_willis> I was thinking that twinview was used in place of xinerama.
[03:20] <pjeide> Dr_willis: I have it setup for twinview, and I have been using it this way for about a month
[03:20] <oobe> it is
[03:20] <Dr_willis> I can move/max programs on one screen or another. Not sure if i got xinerama enabled or not.
[03:20] <pjeide> Dr_willis: as can I
[03:20] <pjeide> everything works appropriately except what resolution games recognize in WINE
[03:20] <Dr_willis> ive noticed that some programs are just brain dead about how they do  the screen sizes. :( sadly
[03:21] <Dr_willis> ahh so wine is the only catch eh?
[03:21] <ardchoille> Figures
[03:21] <pjeide> mmm well some linux apps as well as you mentioned
[03:21] <Dr_willis> Ive notied issues with java games/programs mainly.
[03:21] <oobe> sounds like a tricky setup both my monitors are identical for that reason
[03:21] <Dr_willis> a few linux apps like.. err..  vmware, (which suprised me) and a few others.
[03:21] <pjeide> yea.. I tried a game called Einstein but it launches splayed out over both screens unintelligably
[03:21] <oobe> i dont play games either
[03:22] <Dr_willis> mame also had issues.
[03:22] <pjeide> oobe: I think that is one primary issue is that I'm using different resolutions
[03:22] <oobe> i spose u have already googled a bit?
[03:22] <pjeide> I am just wondering if I configure my xorg.conf differently if I might get KDE to recognize the dual screen setup
[03:22] <ardchoille> pjeide: That would make my brain explode :P
[03:22] <pjeide> oobe: mmhmm :P
[03:23] <Evil_> Anyway to get past having to put in the Kubuntu disc, because I sorta lost mine lol (when installing the build-essential)
[03:23] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  but you said kde and normal apps are working right - just wine is the problem?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Section "ServerFlags"
[03:23] <Dr_willis>     Option         "Xinerama" "0"
[03:23] <ardchoille> Evil_: You can comment the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <pjeide> Dr_willis: I am perfectly able to fullscreen applications on one screen as long as the app doesn't seem fundamentally flawed
[03:23] <Dr_willis> is whats in my main machine.. I THINK 0 = disables Xinerama
[03:23] <Evil_> ok, thanks, ardchoille
[03:24] <Dr_willis> pjeide,  yep. Ive seen the same issue under windows also.. bad programing. :(
[03:24] <ardchoille> Evil_: If you do that, then you'l need to reload the sources to take effect: sudo apt-get update
[03:24] <pjeide> Dr_willis: So put that way, yes, it seems as though WINE's implementation of DirectX only detects the resolution reported by KDE
[03:24] <oobe> xinerama is meant for running 2 xservers i forgot to mention that
[03:24] <pjeide> oobe: Which I am uninterested in doing
[03:24] <oobe> but that is a sure way of setting it up to work
[03:24] <pjeide> I see.
[03:24] <pjeide> that is logical
[03:25] <Dr_willis> xinerama i though twas ment to set 2 displays to be seen as one large one...  twinview does a similer task but with some specific exceptions,details worked out.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> ie; maxamizing to just 1 monitor, and so forth.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> the #wine guys and forums for wine may have some work arounds.
[03:26] <Dr_willis> There may be a way to tell wine 'my monitor is actually.... So x So'
[03:26] <pjeide> Dr_willis, oobe, ardchoille: thanks for your assistance
[03:27] <ardchoille> yw
[03:27] <oobe> np
[03:27] <oobe> hope you get there
[03:28] <oobe> pjeide, you could try using a different driver like nv or vesa
[03:28] <pjeide> that is another option
[03:28] <oobe> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-456493.html
[03:28] <apparle> how to change the resolution of the logon screen
[03:28] <Evil_> to the people who told helped me, I solute you! XD
[03:28] <pjeide> I went through quite a fiasco rewriting my xorg.conf to accept this video card over the onboard Intel gpu along with blacklisting the onboard's driver.. I am reluctant to go through rewriting the file again :-)  It sounds as though trying to futz with WINE might be the best option
[03:29] <Evil_> salute* whatever l0l
[03:29] <oobe> you should disable ur onboard graphics card in the bios
[03:30] <apparle> what to do to change the resolution of logon screen
[03:30] <oobe> and its not that hard to switch drivers its only one line
[03:30] <oobe> you can back up your xorg.conf
[03:30] <pjeide> oobe: of course
[03:30] <pjeide> oobe: I am just less than compelled to play with it more from that end
[03:30] <oobe> did you disable your onboard card?
[03:30] <pjeide> yes
[03:31] <pjeide> well
[03:31] <pjeide> the BIOS only has the option to set priority
[03:31] <oobe> wow i thought that would of fixed it
[03:31] <oobe> oh ok
[03:31] <rick_> Anyone know Quanta+ ?
[03:31] <pjeide> which is similiar to disabling I suppose, because it will give priority to the PCI card (second hand box) in the event that one is detected
[03:31] <pjeide> and the onboard card gets disabled
[03:32] <pjeide> which alone wasn't sufficient, neither was blacklisting the intel driver.  I had to rewrite xorg file using a configuration utility, which got it booted right up
[03:32] <ardchoille> rick_: Have you tried ubuntu forums?
[03:32] <rick_> nope, how do I get there?
[03:32] <ardchoille> rick_: http://ubuntuforums.org/
[03:33] <rick_> I thought someone here might use it I can chat with
[03:34] <rick_> how do I change chat color ?
[03:34] <ardchoille> rick_: Good idea to try here first, but failing that, ubuntu forums is awesome.
[03:34] <ardchoille> rick_: Which chat client?
[03:34] <rick_> konversation
[03:34] <rick_> I just started using kubuntu
[03:35] <ardchoille> rick_: In the config dialog > Interface > Colors
[03:36] <rick_> ok I think
[03:36] <rick_> yup, got it
[03:37] <apparle> when I select the Ubutnu from grub menu I get 2 errors before kubuntu boots. I also get hte same errors  with live CD before booting starts. Can it be a problem
[03:37] <ardchoille> apparle: Sounds like a hardware problem. What are the errors?
[03:38] <jhutchins> apparle: Does it boot and work after that?
[03:42] <oobe> oobe, hello
[03:42] <apparle> something like "cannot allocate " something "of a" something "PCI device"
[03:42] <apparle> where something is a number
[03:43] <apparle> jhutchins: Yes everything else works perfectly
[03:46] <Zoo1> I'm stuck on the livecd boot up. I have a dual monitor setup, and one monitor reports out of range and the other monitor shows a tiny portion of the desktop
[03:47] <Zoo1> Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?
[03:49] <apparle> Zoo1: when you get the initial menu before booting, set a common resoltion which will be visible on both the screens
[03:50] <Zoo1> How do I do that?
[03:51] <andre_> hello gents
[03:51] <sMonk> I have a small problem with adept
[03:52] <sMonk> every time I try to upgrade, or install something, after it's done d/l and tries to install it gets about 1/2 way then I get an error
[03:52] <Zoo1> apparle: How do I do that?
[03:53] <sMonk> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"
[03:53] <Neoxeekhrobe> Zoo1: just detach your second monitor.
[03:53] <sMonk> But the "program" that I'm installing seems to install and work fine... it's more of an annoyance
[03:53] <apparle> Zoo1: when you insert the disc. You will see a 30sec timed menu. Press the function key for selection for graphics(mostly F4 or F5) and select a common resolution appropriate for both the screens
[03:54] <Neoxeekhrobe> guys in KDE(kubuntu) when I use tab button to move around within a dialog window I am unable to see where the focus is going. If there are too many fields and buttons, I am forced to use the mouse. Is there a way to change this so that I could see the focus move?
[03:54] <Neoxeekhrobe> I am unable to see focus mover over buttons and check boxes. Links and text fields are fine.
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Neoxeekhrobe,  may want to try some other themes/widget sets.
[03:55] <Neoxeekhrobe> I am currently using the default theme.
[03:56] <ardchoille> Neoxeekhrobe: Some apps which have tabs have the tab key focus run into the depths of those tabs.. so if yo ar enot on the tab that is currently focused with the tab key, you won't see the focus.
[03:56] <ardchoille> And then there are devs who don't even set tab focus when deisgning the apps
[03:56] <Neoxeekhrobe> but its like the same thing on all apps
[03:57] <Neoxeekhrobe> even on dialog boxes that have no tabs
[03:57] <apparle> zoo1: did you get it to work
[03:57] <sMonk> Hello
[03:57] <apparle> hello
[03:58] <Neoxeekhrobe> ok I just checked konqueror and yes I can see the focus in its dialog boxes.
[03:58] <Neoxeekhrobe> Thanks
[03:59] <andre_> i know this is of topic but have any of you used pioneer, its kubuntu based
[04:00] <ardchoille> andre_: And, iirc, it has automatix installed by default.. no , I won't use it.
[04:00] <apparle> how to update kubuntu
[04:00] <ardchoille> !update | apparle
[04:00] <ubotu> apparle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:01] <apparle> ardchoille: I don't want to upgrade. I want to update 7.10
[04:02] <zibrah3ed> apparle: sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get update
[04:03] <apparle> zibrah3ed: Any offline method
[04:03] <itst> can anyone help?
[04:03] <itst> V
[04:03] <itst> pam_quota.c:36:34: error: security/pam_modules.h: No such file or directory
[04:04] <zibrah3ed> apparle: i saw one yesterday let me see if i can find it again
[04:04] <apparle> zibrah3ed: Please be fast
[04:05] <Zoo1> Yes apparle, thanks!
[04:05] <zibrah3ed> apparle: see if this helps http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/
[04:07] <zibrah3ed> apparle: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572819
[04:09] <Zoo1> That's interesting... new problem. While installing, I get the keyboard layout, hit next, it pauses at scanning disks and times out...
[04:09] <Zoo1> Have two SATA drives
[04:09] <apparle> zibrah3ed: everything else fits. Just that I have a fast net machine with Windows XP
[04:10] <Zoo1> Both have NTFS partitions, one has some ext3 partitions I set up in QTParted for it
[04:11] <sMonk> Can I get some help with an Adept problem?
[04:11] <zibrah3ed> apparle: Use livecd?
[04:13] <alfredo_> hi
[04:13] <apparle> zibrah3ed: any other option or a software which may work the same way on windows
[04:14] <alfredo_> OPPK
[04:15] <apparle> alfredo_:what is OPPK
[04:19] <zibrah3ed> apparle: not that i am aware of
[04:23] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having trouble getting gmail-notify to run on boot for me, can anyone help me out?
[04:24] <apparle> zibrah3ed: what if we compiled the source for apt in windows
[04:31] <pierreth> hello, what is the best reference to use to be able to read dvd with kubuntu 7.10?
[04:32] <apparle> bye everyone
[04:32] <pierreth> bye
[04:36] <zibrah3ed> pierreth: DVD movies or what
[04:38] <smooker> How do i burn .iso images ?
[04:38] <zibrah3ed> smooker:K3b
[04:38] <ardchoille> smooker: With k3b
[04:38] <ardchoille> pierreth: You need to install libdvdcss2 and libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:38] <smooker> oic
[04:39] <ardchoille> !dvd | pierreth
[04:39] <ubotu> pierreth: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:39] <smooker> 10x
[04:42] <smooker> k3b is cool :)
[04:42] <ardchoille> Yeah
[04:42] <t3ch13> Anyone have any expereince with Kubuntu on a Acer Laptop?
[04:43] <pierreth> I found this: http://brenta.free.fr/spip.php?article95
[04:44] <smooker> where i can see how much processor / ram is my system using ?
[04:44] <Hirvinen> top gives some information on processes
[04:44] <Hirvinen> + and processor usage
[04:44] <t3ch13> from a terminal free will give memory usesage
[04:44] <pierreth> ubotu: What do you mean by backing DVDs?
[04:44] <t3ch13> top
[04:45] <Hirvinen> For memory, free -m. What is really available is the second number on the second row.
[04:45] <smooker> where do i see how much processor and ram my system use ?
[04:46] <pierreth> ardchoille: I will try these
[04:48] <smooker> wth
[04:48] <smooker> Mem:          1899       1840         58
[04:48] <smooker> Kubuntu doesnt use swap til mem fill ?
[04:49] <stdin> why would it, swap is slow
[04:49] <t3ch13> snooker there is a utility called KDE System Guard that might be helpful
[04:50] <kopernico> HOLA
[04:50] <kopernico> hay alguien
[04:51] <kopernico> holaaaaaaaaa
[04:51] <kopernico> culitos
[04:51] <stdin> !es | kopernico
[04:51] <ubotu> kopernico: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:52] <stdin> smooker: you can install the package "kicker-applets" to get a nice system monitor applet for kicker too
[04:52] <ardchoille> stdin: Your cloak isn't going to change to reflect membership status?
[04:53] <stdin> ardchoille: it will when I get around to asking :P
[04:53] <ardchoille> hehe
[04:54] <smooker> apt-get kicker-applets ?
[04:54] <pierreth> OK, by DVDs not seems to work, thank you.
[04:54] <stdin> smooker: close "sudo apt-get install kicker-applets"
[04:55] <smooker> after install where it is located ?
[04:56] <stdin> smooker: you right-click the panel, choose  "Add applet to panel" and add the "System Monitor" applet
[05:00] <smooker> nice
[05:02] <level1> Hi, I have some sega gensis roms and i want to map them to the sega genesis emulator dgen; the problem is that the system doesn't understand the difference between a genesis rom and an application file, so if I change the associations, I get an error message every time I start an application
[05:02] <level1> I changed the file extentions to .gen, but it still complains
[05:04] <smooker> good night all :)
[05:11] <ardchoille> level1: Does it complain that applications/octet-stream can be found or something?
[05:11] <level1> Could not find mime type application/octet-stream
[05:11] <ardchoille> Right
[05:12] <level1> I get that error message every time I start an app... the app still starts
[05:12] <level1> causes some trouble on startup too
[05:12] <ardchoille> level1: Sometimes changing file associations can remove the octet-stream, you just need to re-add it. I'll help you do that.
[05:12] <level1> I tried changing the first four bits of each file, it still has this problem
[05:12] <level1> ardchoille: I can do that
[05:13] <ardchoille> level1: ok, add octet-stream back to the applications group but don't give it a file extension or an application
[05:13] <level1> ardchoille: I just want to be able to one click open my roms, but when I re-add octet-stream, I lose the genesis roms
[05:13] <ardchoille> That's a bug, I don't know how to fix it, tho :(
[05:14] <level1> ardchoille: anyway, I tried changing the first four bytes of each file in a hex editor and then putting the association back in... didn't seem to work, although dgen still opens the files
[05:15] <ardchoille> level1: Have you tried right clicking a genesis rom, choose Open with > Other, then choose the app top open it in, and check the checkbox at the bottom (Remember application association..)?
[05:15] <level1> ardchoille: It doesn't provide that checkbox
[05:15] <scooter_> does anyone know how to crack a windows XP password from the welcome screen?
[05:15] <level1> reminds me of a similar bug in windows
[05:15] <stdin> scooter_: you won't get an answer here
[05:15] <level1> scooter_: I'm not sure if we should be supporting illegal behavior here...
[05:15] <ardchoille> scooter_: This is neither the place to ask about cracking or Windows related stuff
[05:16] <scooter_> yea sorry
[05:16] <level1> I don't know if #windows would help you either, its up to you
[05:16] <stdin> ##windows
[05:16] <level1> it redirects
[05:16] <level1> :)
[05:16] <stdin> sneaky windows people, always redirecting us :p
[05:17] <ardchoille> :)
[05:17]  * purpleposeidon permanently redirects stdin to stdout
[05:17] <level1> stdin: how dare they move to an about channel like that!
[05:17] <level1> stdin > /dev/null
[05:18] <stdin> I have /dev/null symlinked to /dev/stdin, so your plan is foiled! ;)
[05:18] <draik> Does anyone here know where I can find the touchscreen pad which attached to any monitor of any size via USB?
[05:18] <purpleposeidon> stdin: That sounds.....recursive. o_O
[05:18] <stdin> doesn't matter, /dev/stdin doesn't really exist...
[05:19] <nicolas> Hey guys, I just installed 7.10 (dual booting with Gentoo), I used LILO from my Gentoo to boot Kubuntu.  Can anyone check my lilo.conf to ensure it is correct? (for instance, I didnt add the UUID stuff from grub)
[05:19] <stdin> it's not really there, only in your mind
[05:19]  * purpleposeidon redirects stdin to /proc/self/fd/0
[05:20] <stdin> purpleposeidon: still doesn't exist, proc is magical :p
[05:22]  * purpleposeidon surgically opens up stdin's hard drive, puts an ant inside, and closes it
[05:22]  * stdin debugs
[05:22] <ardchoille> There, stdin, you now have a bug
[05:23] <ardchoille> hehe
[05:23] <stdin> same thought :p
[05:23] <purpleposeidon> better make sure you've got GDB installed.
[05:23] <stdin> I have gdb, ddd and kdbg
[05:24] <level1> nicolas: why don't use grub?
[05:24] <level1> nicolas: any reason?
[05:25] <nicolas> level1: Always prefered LILO.  It also allows me to display a bitmap instead of the menu.  Last I checked grub only allows an image as a background to the menu.  That and all my configs were already in LILO on my /boot.  But never encountered all the UUID stuff that kubuntu put into it's grub.  Never seen it configured as a menu.lst either.
[05:26] <level1> my grub doesn't have UUIDs, I don't think...
[05:26] <stdin> nicolas: not sure lilo can do the UUID stiff, but it's not required, you can still use /dev/ addresses
[05:27] <level1> oh I see
[05:27] <level1> if menu.lst is anything like fstab, the UUIDs aren't actually nessary...  I don't know why ubuntu uses them
[05:27] <nicolas> ok, just wondering since I wasnt sure what they were.  Second up would be how do I get KDE4.  AFAIK still in beta but I wouldnt mind trying it.  Is there a metapackage or something for it.
[05:27] <level1> It causes hell when I do any kind of trivial reformating..
[05:28] <nicolas> I've never seen UUIDs in fstab *shrugs*  But I've mostly been on Gentoo and Fedora.
[05:28] <level1> nicolas: I find complining it from source is always much more stable than getting the binaries...
[05:28] <level1> nicolas: it takes a little while (mostly downtime) but its not that hard
[05:28] <level1> nicolas: I'll get you a link
[05:29] <stdin> nicolas: kde4 reached RC1 a little while ago, see the link in the topic to get it
[05:29] <nicolas> checking
[05:29] <level1> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
[05:31] <stdin> ardchoille: /whois me :)
[05:31] <sparr_> [how] can i symlink directories across different drives and have the ".." directory behave sensibly?
[05:32] <stdin> sparr_: if you use relative links then you need to make sure the partitions are mounted in the same place all the time
[05:32] <ardchoille> stdin: That's more like it :)
[05:33] <stdin> :)
[05:33] <ardchoille> stdin: Tho, it's good to see the pdpc support
[05:33] <sparr_> stdin: they are
[05:33] <ardchoille> O may apply for membership myself, tho I don't know if I'm eligible
[05:33] <sparr_> stdin: and the links are absolute
[05:34] <stdin> ardchoille: I may get it added back, but I don't need to advertise my support for pdpc as long I a
[05:34] <stdin> * as I support them
[05:34] <ardchoille> True
[05:34] <stdin> spar_: then what's not working in your case?
[05:35] <stdin> ardchoille: why wouldn't you be eligible ?
[05:36] <ardchoille> stdin: I'm not a coder nor an important person
[05:36] <stdin> ardchoille: I only just finished my 1st beginners book on c++, I don't consider myself a coder
[05:36] <purpleposeidon> ardchoille: But do you have money?
[05:37] <stdin> ardchoille: and providing support is important
[05:37] <ardchoille> stdin: I think I'll apply, the most they can say is no.
[05:37] <draik> How do you piece together rar files that are  filename.part001.rar, filename.part002.rar, etc....?
[05:38] <stdin> ardchoille: ask what you can do to help too (with documentation for instance) too
[05:38] <ardchoille> draik: Wouldn't unrar do that?
[05:38] <ardchoille> !rar
[05:38] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:38] <ardchoille> !unrar
[05:40] <draik> ardchoille: Yet again, thanks for the info.
[05:40] <ardchoille> draik: You're welcome :)
[05:40] <draik> I have the worst luck with part001.rar types
[05:41] <draik> r01 and so forth are ok
[05:41] <somekool> hello
[05:41] <somekool> I want to install kde4 on my kubuntu system, any package of RC1 that can be easily installedÉ
[05:41] <somekool> ??
[05:41] <ardchoille> draik: With today's DSL and high capacity devices, I can nly assume that is an old set of rar files.
[05:41] <stdin> somekool: yes, see the link in the topic
[05:42] <draik> ardchoille: possibly. It's a movie
[05:42] <ardchoille> draik: In that case, it may have been broken down to aid in fast downloading
[05:43] <leileilol> how can i get fluidsynth working as the default midi synth?
[05:43] <draik> ardchoille: And that's fine, but I would prefer r01, r02, etc...
[05:43] <nicolas> Is VMware supported under kubuntu?
[05:43] <ardchoille> draik: yeah
[05:43] <draik> nicolas: Yes
[05:43] <Stokesy> why is 667 ram more expensive than 800?
[05:44] <nicolas> draik: just run the tarball or is there a adept repo I havent found?
[05:44] <draik> 667 is the neighbor to The Beast
[05:44] <draik> !vmware
[05:44] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:44] <Stokesy> is 667 better than 800? all of dell's 'high end' machines have 667
[05:44] <nicolas> Stokesy: RAM is priced to order.  Its about the only computer component that isnt priced as per its performance.
[05:47] <draik> It's late. I'm going to leave the desktop on overnight to download the movie at average 25KB/s. :/
[05:47] <nicolas> thats a wee bit slow.  Better be a good movie heh
[05:48] <somekool> I have a serious keyboard problem that I really can`t fix..  I set my xorg to a french-canadian keyboard which works fine under kdm login manager. but once i logon in KDE, it get screwed and becomes half working. any idea what could it be ?
[05:49] <stdin> have you set the keyboard layout in system settings > regional & language ?
[05:50] <IceGuest_7> could someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for installing kubuntu while still keeping winxp intact?  that whole partition thing has me a little confused.  thank you in advance.
[05:51] <stdin> hmm, maybe ubotu knows...
[05:51] <stdin> !dualboot
[05:51] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[05:51] <stdin> well, ubotu knows all :)
[05:51] <IceGuest_7> thank you so much, have a good night.
[05:55] <titanix88> hi people:)
[05:55] <titanix88> :(
[05:56] <leileilol> :((
[05:57] <titanix88> hi leileilol :)
[05:58] <titanix88> anyone know any channel abt linux games?
[05:58] <leileilol> #gametome?
[05:59] <titanix88> hmm.
[06:01] <bfrog> I've heard there's lots of issues with 7.10... is that true?
[06:02] <jddm> ENTONCES
[06:02] <jddm> QUE MAS
[06:03] <posingaspopular> !es
[06:03] <leileilol> i've had worse ati install issues in gutsy, but that's it
[06:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[06:03] <titanix88> whats the shortcut for switching tabs in gaim(not pidgin)?
[06:03] <jddm> OK
[06:06] <posingaspopular> titanix88: alt+ctrl up and down iirc
[06:07] <stdin> bfrog: I've had no issues with 7.10
[06:08] <bfrog> are all the typical non-free somewhat-non-legal codecs available as well?
[06:08] <bfrog> like, lame, is lame available?
[06:08] <posingaspopular> bfrog: yes
[06:08] <bfrog> ok
[06:08] <bfrog> and one last one
[06:08] <bfrog> mythtv?
[06:09] <titanix88> posingaspopular: doesn't work for me:(
[06:09] <posingaspopular> bfrog: you can run mythbuntu
[06:09] <bfrog> sweet
[06:09] <posingaspopular> it's ubuntu specialized for mythv
[06:09] <bfrog> alright, thanks, time to switch then
[06:09] <bfrog> tired of crap not working
[06:09] <posingaspopular> superm1 and chadarius are two guys I know who help with that
[06:31] <trillis> Could anyone spare some time to help a nub?
[06:32] <trillis> :(
[06:32] <trillis> How can I get Youtube to work for Linux?
[06:33] <INIT_6> trillis, do you have flash installed?
[06:33] <titanix88> trillis: install flash-plugin-nonfree
[06:33] <trillis> Eh... Nevermind. It's not youtube I need help with.
[06:34] <INIT_6> Right now, I am kind of stuck using VLC to play music. what is a really good mp3 player for kubuntu. don't like amarok, or kaffine. any suggestions?
[06:34] <trillis> I don't suppose theres a Divx webplayer for Linux?
[06:34] <trillis> xmms?
[06:35] <INIT_6> I will try it thanks, and good ? on the Divx, I will check into that right now. cuz I will need that to :)
[06:36] <trillis> Streaming movies aren't working for me...:(
[06:37] <trillis> I found a good site with working streaming videos, but I keep getting these install-plugin errors.
[06:37]  * trillis wants to watch the last samurai :(
[06:38] <INIT_6> stage6 has the best divx movies. same issue for me, says to use mplayer,
[06:38] <stdin> please don't talk about potentially illegal activities in here (or any other ubuntu affiliated channel)
[06:38] <trillis> My apologies.
[06:39] <INIT_6> avifile-divx-plugin < you can try this I would but I am installing other stuff.
[06:39] <stdin> just install mozilla-mplayer
[06:40] <stdin> (you may need to put "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf for divx)
[06:41] <trillis> So type: "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf" after sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?
[06:41]  * trillis is linux retarded
[06:42] <stdin> try starting up a video in firefox first, then the file should be created, then edit it
[06:42] <trillis> Should I install mozilla-mplayer first?
[06:42] <stdin> yes
[06:43] <stdin> and if you've installed any other media player plugins for firefox you should remove them
[06:43] <stdin> they can conflict and stop each other
[06:43] <trillis> Said broken packages...?
[06:44] <stdin> helps to have the whole error message, pastebin is your friend
[06:44] <trillis> link?
[06:44] <stdin> !paste
[06:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:44] <trillis> Heheh
[06:45] <trillis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46535/
[06:46] <stdin> trillis: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:47] <trillis> Whats that?
[06:47] <stdin> !multiverse
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:49] <trillis> Not sure...
[06:51] <sigma_> hi guys, does the fglrx driver enable tv out functionality on the ati radeon mobility 9000?
[06:51] <trillis> stdin: It appears so.
[06:52] <stdin> trillis: try "sudo apt-get install mplayer" then
[06:52] <fildo> hey if i have upgraded to gutsy, is there anyway to revert back to fiesty, cause i have hardware issues with video card
[06:53] <sigma_> fildo: nope just backup and format
[06:53] <trillis> "Unable to lock the administration directory(?var/lib/dpkg)
[06:53] <fildo> sigma_: narh there must be a way
[06:54] <stdin> trillis: did you use sudo?
[06:54] <trillis> Yes.
[06:54] <stdin> fildo: there is not
[06:54] <stdin> trillis: have adept or another package manager open?
[06:54] <trillis> Yes..heheh.
[06:54] <sigma_> fildo: even if there was one the system would prob be very unstable after you reverted back
[06:55] <trillis> "Package mplayer has no installation candidate"
[06:55] <stdin> trillis: you sure you have multiverse enabled?
[06:55] <stdin> !info mplayer
[06:55] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB
[06:55] <sigma_> fildo: i think the dev's are still looking into implement some sort of a rollback feature
[06:55] <trillis> Uhm...
[06:55] <trillis> How can I check?
[06:56] <fildo> sigma_:  yeah true
[06:56] <stdin> trillis: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[06:56] <trillis> Departed maybe?
[06:56] <trillis> How to I check?
[06:56] <stdin> !version
[06:56] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[06:57] <trillis> Dapper
[06:57] <trillis> Heheh, I knew it had a  d and a p.
[06:57] <sigma_> does anyone know if xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.9-12.4_i386.deb will work on feisty? i tried it on gutsy with my ati mobility 9000 and it picked up the driver but didnt work
[06:58] <sigma_> trillis: dam don't you think its time to upgrade:)
[06:58] <stdin> trillis: close all package managers, press Alt-F2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then post that file to pastebin
[06:59] <stdin> sigma_: why didn't you install the gutsy version of the driver on gutsy?
[06:59] <trillis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46536/
[07:00] <sigma_> stdin: ati dropped support for my chipset in that version :( so i can't use the latest version
[07:00] <stdin> sigma_: then your only option is to get the old driver from ati.com and install that (if it exists)
[07:01] <sigma_> i got the version from the ubuntu repo's, is that the same thing?
[07:02] <stdin> sigma_: no, that version will only work with a certain kernal version, the 2.6.17 one (gutsy uses 2.6.22)
[07:02] <stdin> trillis: see the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe", add the word "multiverse" after "universe" so it looks like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"
[07:03] <sigma_> dam!
[07:03] <sigma_> so if i install the binary one from the ati website in gutsy it should work you say?
[07:03] <trillis> To all of them?
[07:03] <stdin> trillis: no, just that one line
[07:04] <stdin> sigma_: only if that particular version is available
[07:04] <fildo> ok i have a nvidia question if anyone can answer for me
[07:04] <sigma_> ya i saw it on the ati site - they keep it in the archives
[07:04] <trillis> save?
[07:04] <stdin> sigma_: or you could get "fglrx-kernel-source" from feisty and compile that one on gutsy, that may work
[07:05] <stdin> trillis: yes, then do "sudo apt-get update"
[07:05] <sigma_> fildo: shoot, nvidia is usually simpler than ati
[07:05] <sigma_> ]stdin: what does that kernel source thing do?
[07:05] <trillis> It finished, not try mozilla-mplayer?
[07:06] <stdin> sigma_: that's the source of the driver, the same one that's used to make the driver on feisty
[07:06] <stdin> trillis: yes
[07:06] <trillis> Yaay, thank you stdin.
[07:07] <sigma_> stdin: does it work on gutsy as well and how exactly do i use it after installing it?
[07:07] <trillis> I'll most likely be on tomorrow with many more questions and dilemma's.
[07:07] <fildo> sigma_: using fiesty i was using the proprietary driver it worked brillant. now i have upgraded to gutsy. using the proprietary driver , it tend to login to kde, then boot me out into the login screen after a few mins, like its crashing
[07:07] <trillis> Thanks, and have a good night.
[07:07] <stdin> sigma_: you get that package and then do something like "sudo ma ai fglrx" i think
[07:07] <TAB-2112> hello all, if I've installed Ubuntu from the Live CD and have now decided that I definitely prefer KDE to GNOME, is there any easy way to remove the GNOME-based apps?
[07:07] <Radi01> ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʎɐldsıp ʎɯ
[07:08] <Radi01> whew
[07:08] <stdin> Radi01: that gets very old very fast
[07:08] <ardchoille> Radi01: Yeah, that's a nice website :P
[07:08] <Radi01> did ya find it
[07:09] <sigma_> fildo: did you build the driver from the nvidia or use the glx drivers in the repo?
[07:09] <fildo> glx in the repo
[07:09] <fildo> i usally install it myself, thru apt-get
[07:09] <ardchoille> Radi01: I was going to suggest you stand on your head :)
[07:09] <Radi01> lol
[07:09] <fildo> but i have been told you can also use restircted-manager
[07:10] <Radi01> Some people have no sense of humor.
[07:10] <fildo> fiesty used to use nvidia-glx
[07:10] <sigma_> fildo: dont use restricted manager, confuses the situation, what card do you have?
[07:11] <fildo> gutsy uses nvidia-glx-new. could be the driver i say
[07:11] <fildo> im on a laptop
[07:11] <sigma_> fildo: gutsy also uses it, thats how i installed my one, no there is a "nvidia-glx" version for gutsy
[07:12] <sigma_> check it out @ packages.ubuntu.com
[07:12] <fildo> nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] (rev a1)
[07:13] <ardchoille> Here's how I install nvidia drivers in my Gutsy system: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:13] <ardchoille> Done :)
[07:13] <ardchoille> Of course, you have to restart xorg
[07:13] <fildo> hehe
[07:14] <fildo> i just wanna play et
[07:14] <ardchoille> lol
[07:14] <mark_> question: just installed kubuntu gutsy on my lenovo T40 lappy.  I'm checking dmesg and I'm seeing repeated messages "printk: x messages suppressed.".  What am I looking at?
[07:16] <ardchoille> mark_: Does this page have any info that helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412125
[07:17] <sigma_> stdin: r u still there?
[07:17] <ardchoille> sigma_: pfft, he lives here
[07:17]  * ardchoille ducks
[07:17] <stdin>  /cs kb ardchoille ;)
[07:17] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:17] <stdin> damn, put a space in there :p
[07:17] <ardchoille> Lucky for me
[07:18] <mark_> ardchoille: err... well, at a quick skimming I can't see anything that relates, but thanks...
[07:19] <ardchoille> mark_: Sorry about that, that was all I could find in google
[07:20] <stdin> sigma_: you wanted me for something?
[07:20] <m0u5e> anyone know where xserver-xgl stored its config files?
[07:20] <mark_> ardchoille: np.  I've searched google myself and I've found some references to reducing some logging, but nothing that specifically states what that particular message indicates nor what it might be indicitive of...
[07:20] <sigma_> stdin: will i be able to use that ati driver i got from the ubuntu repo's with that fglrx-kernel-source package you told me to get?
[07:20] <purpleposeidon> How do I make wlassistant run with that setuid thing?
[07:21] <stdin> sigma_: no, that package lets you build a driver package from it
[07:21] <purpleposeidon> If I do chmod+s; it says The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.
[07:21] <sigma_> stdin: ok im lost what do you mean?
[07:21] <ardchoille> purpleposeidon: Be careful with setuid, are you sure you really need to change that?
[07:22] <purpleposeidon> ardchoille: Yeah, I'm lazy.
[07:22] <ardchoille> purpleposeidon: fwiw, being lazy can open up a security hole where one wouldn't otherwise be open :)
[07:22] <purpleposeidon> "Oh no, somebody's gonna somehow login to my laptop and do x forwarding, and change my wireless access point!"
[07:24] <stdin> sigma_: from what I think I know ;) you do "sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic fglrx-kernel-source" then do "sudo m-a prepare,update" then "sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel"
[07:25] <stdin> sigma_: just found this, should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3
[07:26] <sigma_> stdin: but will it build it from the edgy deb that i got?
[07:26] <stdin> sigma_: the fglrx-kernel-source package is just the source, it should build on any version
[07:27] <stdin> *should* (doesn't mean it will)
[07:27] <sigma_> lol
[07:28] <sigma_> stdin: i installed everything and have fglrx.deb sitting on my desktop, whats the command i must type in Konsole to convert it?
[07:28] <stdin> convert to what?
[07:28] <sigma_> convert it to a gutsy deb
[07:29] <stdin> if you built it with module-assistant then it is
[07:32] <sigma_> i didnt build it yet stdin, its the one i downloaded from the ubuntu repo
[07:39] <sigma_> ok that didnt work, looks like il have 2get the ati driver from ati.com
[07:56] <abuaoi> hello...anybody home ????
[08:00] <jdlizard> anyone know anything about vdrift
[08:01] <posingaspopular> hi abuaoi
[08:38] <FunnyLookinHat> Ah crap, just read the news about KDE 4.0 being pushed back another month to mid-january   : P
[08:41] <Lynoure> I could not figure out how to add things to panels in KDE4 rc1 yet, so not really eager for it. :)  (help is welcome, though)
[08:43] <sigma_> why can't k3b burn multisession dvd-rw's on lg dvd writers?
[08:43] <sigma_> it keeps telling me some incremental streaming method is not available
[08:44] <Lynoure> I have an LG writer but I have not had need to try multisession dvd-rw yet...
[08:44] <sigma_> lynoure: it don't work and i dont know why, i like multisession because i used it in windows to do my backups quickly
[08:45] <Lynoure> sigma_: you mean you have already gotten some other people to verify it does not work for them either?
[08:46] <sigma_> lynoure: nope but i tried it on both my pc's - one intel and one amd will totally diff hardware but the same dvd-rw drive and it doesnt work
[08:48] <Lynoure> sigma_: it's still possible you are missing some software on both, but you could check Launchpad for that, and maybe report a bug
[08:48] <sigma_> ok i see but can they fix k3b?
[08:48] <Lynoure> the exact error message would help, too. As I cannot test with dvd-rw now (none of them around right now)
[08:49] <Lynoure> They can delegate bug reports, and it being open source, yes, fixing is possible, too.
[08:58] <sigma_> does anyone know how to change the phpmyadmin password manually?
[09:01] <leileilol> i wish that "fluidsynth: warning: ALSA sequencer buffer overrun, lost events" warning went away
[09:02] <leileilol> internet says 'ignore it, it's harmless' but it's actually making a huge oversampled playback that hurts ears
[09:08] <giano> test
[09:08] <hangthedj> test?
[09:08] <giano> yeah sorry i'm testing connection ;)
[09:08] <osman47> !de
[09:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:09] <hangthedj> giano, it works!
[09:09] <giano> yeah!
[09:09] <giano> now i try with proxy...go and get another channel
[09:09] <giano> :D
[09:10] <giano> ok #a is good enough
[09:10] <hangthedj> i love proxies.
[09:16] <Lynoure> Is there somewhere instructions on how to use kde4? I have it installed, but I don't understand how to do some things yet (panels, mostly)
[09:35] <wiggy> hello
[09:35] <wiggy> hello ???
[09:36] <leon_romain> hello wiggy
[09:36] <hangthedj> wiggy | hi
[09:36] <hangthedj> hi
[09:36] <hangthedj> oops
[09:37] <hangthedj> wiggy, hi!
[09:37] <hangthedj> !hi | wiggy
[09:37] <ubotu> wiggy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:37] <hangthedj> there we go
[09:37] <wiggy> Thanks
[09:37] <wiggy> can someone tell me how to turn my kubuntu into french ?
[09:37] <wiggy> I've just installed it but everything is in english
[09:39] <stdin> wiggy: should be in KMenu > System Settings > Regional & Language
[09:39] <wiggy> ok, let me check it
[09:39] <hangthedj> wiggy, when you installed why didn't you choose your language?
[09:41] <wiggy> I chose french
[09:41] <Cicci0> hi... someone has tried installing klamav on kubuntu 7.10?
[09:41] <wiggy> but the system comes in english
[09:41] <Cicci0> I can't install successfully dazuko module
[09:41] <wiggy> stdin, I don't have french in the list
[09:41] <jpatrick> Cicci0: you probably won't ever need it, but I have installed clamav
[09:41] <hangthedj> wiggy, the installation should let you choose your language though.
[09:42] <Cicci0> jpatrick: I need it cause I'd like to have online control on removable media (for work purpose)
[09:42] <wiggy> I said that I choose french during the installation hangthedj
[09:42] <hangthedj> weird.
[09:43] <Cicci0> I can use klamav and clamav without problems but I'd like to have real-time analysis...
[09:43] <jpatrick> wiggy: installed language-pack-kde-fr?
[09:43] <jpatrick> Cicci0: sorry, I can't help you there :(
[09:43] <wiggy> how to do it ?
[09:43] <jpatrick> wiggy: type "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-fr" into the konsole
[09:44] <jpatrick> Cicci0: unless you look for the logs in /var/logs
[09:44] <wiggy> thanks
[09:45] <jpatrick> wiggy: and afterwards it should appear under Languages in system settings
[09:47] <Dragonath> anyone know if skype meant for 7.04 works on 7.10 too?
[09:47] <jpatrick> Dragonath: I have installed it on Gutsy
[09:47] <jpatrick> from skype.com
[09:47] <Dragonath> and it works ok?
[09:47] <jpatrick> haven't tried it (for dad)
[09:48] <Dragonath> ahh
[09:48] <jpatrick> but it worked fine on his lappy
[09:49] <Dragonath> gonna try anyways, thanks
[09:55] <Lynoure> Dragonath: it does.
[09:55] <Lynoure> Dragonath: at least for basic stuff, no video for me :)
[10:02] <dpix> hello
[10:03] <hangthedj> !hi | dpix
[10:03] <ubotu> dpix: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:03] <dpix> is it compatible KDE + ATI X600 + COMPIZ-FUSION?
[10:03] <hangthedj> !compiz
[10:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:05] <jpatrick> !es | dpix
[10:05] <ubotu> dpix: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[10:10] <swayer> hi
[10:10] <dpix> hello
[10:10] <dpix> kubuntu compiz-fusion
[10:11] <dpix> compiz-fusion
[10:11] <dpix> !compiz-fusion
[10:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:12] <ashley_> hi
[10:13] <hangthedj> ashley_, whats going on?
[10:28] <jordinateur> ther's noone ?
[10:28] <jpatrick> could be..
[10:28] <jpatrick> !fr | jordinateur
[10:28] <ubotu> jordinateur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:29] <jordinateur> How do you know I'm french ??
[10:29] <jpatrick> I have my ways...
[10:29] <jpatrick> nah, it's just --> jordinateur has joined this channel (*@*FR).
[10:29] <jordinateur> hha okay
[10:30] <jordinateur> bah there's noone in french channel ;p
[10:30] <jordinateur> so I've a big recurent problem with compiz
[10:30] <jpatrick> jordinateur: there are 26 people in the kubuntu-fr one
[10:30] <jpatrick> !compiz | jordinateur
[10:30] <ubotu> jordinateur: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:31] <jordinateur> when I active compiz (I don't know how to say that) my screen is blank !! I must return in konsole mode to enter some lines to kill compiz's process to work normaly
[10:32] <jordinateur> it's must be in cause of glx or I don't know...
[10:32] <jordinateur> I've installed drivers of my graphic card !
[10:33] <jordinateur> It worked good yesterday but after a reboot, there's this blank screen
[10:33] <jordinateur> P.S : Sorry for my bad english ^^
[10:34] <onishidato> can someone tell me what is Wine program?
[10:34] <sigma_> how do i delete the suspend and hibernate buttons from my logout dialog?
[10:34] <onishidato> !wine
[10:34] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[10:35] <sigma_> onishidato: its a windows emulator that helps you run win programs in linux
[10:42] <onishidato> i can't not close the apt program on my computer. they say that i don't 'have permission. But i'm the administrator. how can i do now?
[10:43] <onishidato> hello
[10:44] <onishidato> anyone here?
[10:45] <hangthedj> onishidato, you can't not close, do you mean you can't close
[10:48] <_DT> onishidato: open a terminal window. type sudo killall synaptic
[10:48] <_DT> that should do it. you'll need to enter your root pass though
[10:49] <_DT> it basically stops the program from the command line by killing the process
[10:49] <stdin> _DT: onishidato left a while ago
[10:49] <jpatrick> :> ...
[10:57] <JackWinter> is there a good program to produce animated gifs of screenshots, or to record the desktop including mouse movements.  i'd like to make a few tutorials.
[10:57] <llutz> JackWinter: recordmydesktop
[10:58] <stdin> !screencast | JackWinter
[10:58] <ubotu> JackWinter: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[10:59] <ilor> is there somewhere a guide on making fn-keys work on laptops?
[10:59] <WaltzingAlong> !find milo
[10:59] <ubotu> Found: kmilo, kmilo-legacy
[11:00] <WaltzingAlong> !info kmilo | ilor, perhaps this software?
[11:00] <ubotu> ilor, perhaps this software?: kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB
[11:01] <ilor> I seem to have it already installed
[11:01] <hangthedj> kmilo is a peice of crap
[11:01] <WaltzingAlong> ilor: yeah it probably is. which keys did you want?
[11:01] <ilor> I want brightness and volume
[11:01] <ilor> the rest I dont care
[11:02] <ilor> the panel-light-off key works
[11:03] <JackWinter> which screen capture program do you guys prefer.  i might lean to recordmydesktop since it's in the repo and has a kde frontend?
[11:03] <ilor> and the volume "kind of" works - it goes form 0% to 11% only and doesn't actually affect the colume
[11:03] <WaltzingAlong> !fn
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <hangthedj> ilor, what kind of computer do you have?
[11:03] <ilor> asus f3jp
[11:04] <hangthedj> if your having the 11% bug, kmilo won't work with your computer
[11:04] <hangthedj> it only recognizes, the master channel so if your first channel is like pcm, it wont work.
[11:04] <ilor> what should I do then?
[11:05] <hangthedj> or front
[11:05] <hangthedj> uninstall it, and map your keys using the kmix global keyboard shortcuts
[11:05] <hangthedj> there will be no osd, but it will control your volume
[11:06] <hangthedj> big reason why i use kubuntu for my desktop and ubuntu for my laptop
[11:09] <Raizard> Hello all
[11:10] <jpatrick> !hi | Raizard
[11:10] <ubotu> Raizard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:10] <Raizard> I have a problem with linuxant driverloader. I install it correctly but konqueror isn't able to open the web configuration panel. Can anyone help me?
[11:13] <Raizard> ah in Ubuntu all work in the right way, so i can't figure out why it doen't qork in kubuntu
[11:13] <Raizard> work*
[11:13] <dyson> werd
[11:13] <dyson> compiz --replace takes me to a login screen then loads default meta :/
[11:14] <dyson> i`m on gutsy, got it working on feisty, shouldn't have upgraded
[11:14] <Raizard> dyson
[11:15] <dyson> ye?
[11:15] <Raizard> compiz --replace doesn't work for me 'cause it's a difference between feisty and gutsy
[11:15] <dyson> solution?
[11:15] <dyson> answers man, gimme answes :P
[11:16] <Raizard> i activated compiz in the control panel
[11:16] <dyson> there's a control panel?
[11:16] <Raizard> i choosed Advance desktop effects
[11:16] <Raizard> and i have compiz fusion to work
[11:16] <dyson> what do you mean by control panel
[11:16] <Raizard> mmm
[11:17] <Raizard> ^^ i'm a newbie in kubuntu, i'm talking about ubuntu but i think the solution is quite the same
[11:17] <JackWinter> ok,recordmydesktop works good, and i like the integration in kde.  how do i convert the resulting .ogg file to animated gif?
[11:18] <Raizard> can anyone help me with linuxant driverloader???
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: you could check in #ubuntu
[11:19] <Raizard> no i'm talking about KUBUNTU
[11:19] <Raizard> i think i'm in the right place
[11:20] <gabbah> what program do you use to monitor your cpu temp?
[11:20] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: sure are. ok the linuxant download?
[11:20] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: ok, succeful install
[11:20] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: but konqueror can't use the web configuration panel
[11:20] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: i don't know why
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: neither do i. have you tried in firefox?
[11:21] <Lynoure> gabbah: I usually just do  acpi -t  occasionally, but depending on your system it might not work out of the box
[11:21] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: that's what i want to do
[11:22] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: do you think it makes it to work?
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: sorry i never used the linuxant drivers
[11:23] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: in sabayon linux konqueror was able to access the web conf panel
[11:23] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: in ubuntu all works fine
[11:23] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: sorry i really do not know
[11:23] <gabbah> gabriel@gabriel-desktop:~$ acpi -t
[11:23] <gabbah> No support for device type: thermal
[11:24] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: In Kubuntu doesn't work
[11:24] <Lynoure> Does anyone know a source for Gutsy packaget Kraft?
[11:24] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: Maybe is tit a problem of port?
[11:25] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: i have to login at http://127.0.0.1:18020/
[11:26] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: Do i have to open this port, wich maybe is closed by default?
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> are you using a proxy? maybe squid has not been configured to allow 18020 as a safe port
[11:26] <WaltzingAlong> you should be able to connect to it from localhost though i suppose a firewall could be blocking that too
[11:26] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: i have a default installation of kubuntu
[11:27] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: what is squid?
[11:27] <jpatrick> !info squid
[11:27] <Raizard>  WaltzingAlong: never heard about that
[11:27] <ubotu> squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[11:27] <Raizard> optional?
[11:27] <Raizard> so it isn't installed by default
[11:28] <jpatrick> yes
[11:28] <Raizard> i try with firefox
[11:28] <jpatrick> not everyone wants a WWW proxy cache installed on their computer
[11:28] <WaltzingAlong> Raizard: right likely not installed then
[11:30] <Raizard> iceweasel
[11:30] <Raizard> i try with this
[11:30] <WaltzingAlong> k
[11:31] <dpix> hey
[11:31] <dpix> can anyone help me with compiz-fusion
[11:32] <dpix> I've got an ATI X600 (accelerated 3d) + compiz-fusion + Kubuntu 7.10, when I activate compiz-fusion (compiz --replace) my computer freezes
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> dpix: which driver/module for the video card?
[11:32] <dpix> how do I know that?
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | dpix, otherwise try with the newer fglrx module
[11:33] <dpix> yes, I did that
[11:33] <dpix> fglrk ?
[11:33] <dpix> fglrk
[11:33] <dpix> !fglrk
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx
[11:34] <Raizard> !iceweasel
[11:34] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[11:34] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | dpix
[11:35] <niko_> hi to all
[11:35] <dpix> !fglrx
[11:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:35] <niko_> i've installe dth fglrx
[11:35] <niko_> but when i install ccsm
[11:35] <niko_> the icon image
[11:35] <niko_> they aren't
[11:36] <niko_> and the screen for turnig off, rebooting, etc show me only the terminate session option
[11:36] <niko_> wath's wrong?
[11:36] <niko_> i followed the wiki
[11:36] <dpix> me too
[11:38] <niko_> no one?
[11:38] <niko_> !ati
[11:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:38] <niko_> !help
[11:38] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:40] <WaltzingAlong> #kubuntu is not specifically for unsupported compiz in kde/kubuntu support
[11:45] <risto> any quanata users ?
[11:46] <bad-wimpie> heello
[11:46] <dpix> hi
[11:47] <risto> hi
[11:47] <risto> how i can set some code templates
[11:48] <saky> join #love
[11:48] <jpatrick> saky: with / in front might help :)
[11:49] <gabriel_> my sound suddenly stopped working after a reboot... where do i start the troubleshooting?
[11:52] <WaltzingAlong> !sound | gabriel_
[11:52] <ubotu> gabriel_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:54] <dpix> how can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.1
[11:55] <niko_> hi to all
[11:55] <dpix> how can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.1
[11:55] <niko_> i'm in trouble with fstab
[11:55] <niko_> i can't create any file
[11:56] <gabriel_> thanks WaltzingAlong :)
[11:57] <kraut> moin
[12:13] <gabriel_> must i use the 64-bit version of ubuntu in order to use my 4gig of ram?
[12:14] <stdin> to use all of it without recompiling the kernel, yes
[12:14] <gabriel_> i have a 64-bit cpu... core 2 duo
[12:14] <gabriel_> hmpf..
[12:15] <gabriel_> it seems it uses only 3291MB
[12:16] <gabriel_> i tried 64 bit version but had some problems with flash.. is it not recommended to run it yet? i mean in terms of applications supporting it and general troubles..
[12:16] <gabriel_> ?
[12:16] <velho> hello people. does any one knows how can i put linux to read the folder size of each folder, like this program i use in windows? http://foldersize.sourceforge.net/ thank you in advance :D
[12:20] <Raizard> nothing at all
[12:20] <Raizard> Driveloader web conf doesn't work
[12:20] <Raizard> can anyone help me?
[12:22] <stdin> velho: "df /path/to/folder" in console or kdirstat for a GUI
[12:23] <Raizard> Can anyone help me with driverloader?
[12:24] <Raizard> Can anyone help me with driverloader?
[12:24] <Raizard> plz
[12:24] <jpatrick> !pacience
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pacience - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <Lynoure> Raizard: if you are a bit more specific, you are more likely to get help
[12:25] <stdin> !patience
[12:25] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:25] <Raizard> ok
[12:25] <Raizard> now i explain
[12:25] <Raizard> i installed driverloader with source
[12:25] <Raizard> all done
[12:26] <Raizard> but konqueror can't access the web configuration panel
[12:26] <Raizard> i read the wiki
[12:26] <Raizard> do what it says to do
[12:26] <Raizard> but all works well, BUT the webconfiguration panel
[12:27] <Raizard> i don't know why...
[12:29] <Lynoure> Raizard: so, what exactly happens when you try to access  http://localhost:18020/ ?
[12:30] <Raizard>  Lynoure: an error message tell me that konqueror can't connect with the specified host
[12:31] <Lynoure> How did you start webconfd?
[12:31] <Raizard>  Lynoure: if i use "ps -C webconfd" the system tell me that this process is running
[12:32] <Raizard>  Lynoure: modprobe driverloader
[12:32] <Raizard> i used this command
[12:32] <dyson2> aight
[12:32] <dyson2> so sum1 feel like helping me install compiz?
[12:33] <jpatrick> !compiz | dyson2
[12:33] <ubotu> dyson2: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:33] <dyson2> been there
[12:33] <Lynoure> Raizard: that just loads the module, it does not necessarily start the web service. Could you tell me what instructions you followed so far?
[12:34] <Raizard>  Lynoure: i do exactly this
[12:34] <Lynoure> (I normally steer clear of wifi that requires closed source drivers, so I really don't know what howto people use)
[12:34] <Raizard>  Lynoure: i MUST use this drivers
[12:35] <Raizard>  Lynoure: it's the only way i have to reach the web
[12:35] <Lynoure> Raizard: sudo dldrconfig --webconf=127.0.0.1:18020   should start it
[12:35] <Lynoure> Raizard: what's the wifi card you are using?
[12:35] <dyson2> thing is, when i `compiz --replace` i get the login screen, and when logging in it loads kdm again
[12:35] <ciperlone> ey
[12:36] <Raizard>  Lynoure: D-Link DWL G-132
[12:36] <Raizard>  Lynoure: in ubuntu works, in other KD Environments work
[12:36] <Raizard>  Lynoure:in Kubuntu doesn't work
[12:37] <Raizard>  Lynoure: now i try with the command you tell me
[12:37] <Raizard>  Lynoure: and then came back
[12:37] <Raizard>  Lynoure: to let you know
[12:45] <dyson2> compiz on kubuntu
[12:45] <dyson2> be a man
[12:46] <Pilot> I need to install JRE.  Is it best to use the .bin file from sun, or use a package through Adept?  And if through Adept, the architecture dependant (75MB) or the architecture independant (14MB)
[12:48] <dyson2> Kubuntu 7.10 & compiz? followed numerous online guides. can i get some help from sum1 who knows something?
[12:49] <Lynoure> Pilot: I ended up using the one from Sun, but I have not really done comparative research, just at the point when I did it Eclipse seemed happier that way
[12:49] <Lynoure> Pilot: But of course Ubuntu packages are easier to upgrade.
[12:51] <ksal> dyson2: what's the problem?
[12:51] <Pilot> ok thansk.
[12:52] <dyson2> well i THINK xorg dies
[12:52] <dyson2> when i do a 'compiz --replace'
[12:53] <ksal> dyson2: are you sure that x crashes?
[12:54] <dyson2> well i get the login screen again
[12:54] <Pilot> So I tried to install jre through adept and it crashed... lol
[12:54] <ksal> dyson2: kde? what graphic card you have?
[12:54] <ksal> have you installed restricted drivers?
[12:55] <dyson2> i thought i was supposed to NOT install the restricted drivers
[12:55] <dyson2> the drivers i have are from the nvidia site
[12:55] <dyson2> followed some guid
[12:55] <dyson2> guide
[12:56] <dyson2> (thought the restricted drivers = nvidia-glx package, yes? i`m not using those.)
[12:56] <ksal> dyson2: you should'nt install drivers from nvidia or ati sites
[12:56] <dyson2> nvidia 7-series card
[12:56] <ksal> they can do a mess in your system
[12:56] <dyson2> so i revert back to the nvidia-glx drivers?
[12:57] <dyson2> 3d works fine though, i can play games and my openGL screensavers work
[12:57] <dyson2> how do i get the output from 'compiz --replace' into a text file ?
[12:57] <dyson2> can i run it from a different login?
[12:58] <Lynoure> dyson2: compiz --replace >> compiz.txt   should probably be enough
[12:58] <dyson2> brb
[12:59] <ksal> dyson2: kubuntu should propose you to install restricted drivers from the repo
[12:59] <ksal> i had this with my card
[12:59] <liyongning> 大家好
[12:59] <dyson2> this is even thought the compiz site tells me different
[12:59] <dyson2> http://compiz.org/NVidia
[12:59] <dyson2> ?
[12:59] <ksal> in control center, on advanced tab you have a manager for that.
[12:59] <ksal> oh, yeah? strange, i never heard that
[13:00] <ksal> dyson2: i have gf4, restricted drivers from repo and everything works well
[13:00] <ksal> however, i don't enable compiz, to slow machine for that ;)
[13:01] <dyson2> ok, reverted drivers
[13:01] <dyson2> lets have a reboot
[13:01] <dyson2> and i`ll get back to you
[13:01] <dyson2> thanks so far
[13:01] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia
[13:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:01] <ksal> WaltzingAlong: too late :p
[13:02] <ksal> i hope it won't crash his sys :p
[13:08] <Pilot> So I tried to install JRE through adept and it crashed.  Now trying to reload it says another app is using it.  If I click Yes to the prompt, adept crashes again.  Aside from rebooting, is there another way to fix this?  ps aux  doesnt seem to show any processes
[13:15] <dysonX> http://pastebin.com/d4c81e076
[13:33] <chillmann> hi there
[13:33] <chillmann> I'
[13:34] <ciperlone> yey
[13:34] <chillmann> I've got a problem with my Alt-Tab and Alt-F5 behaviour in KDE. Alt+Something seems to work only on the desktop but not when an application has the focus. any idea?
[13:35] <chillmann> actually this is also true for alt-F4 etc..
[13:36] <ciperlone> fif you check on the kde shortcuts?
[13:36] <chillmann> xev shows Alt key is definetely working and I can also assign Alt-Tab to "cycle through windows" in KDE system settings. however, as soon as an application has the focus, it's not working
[13:36] <chillmann> ciperlone: yep, those are set up correctly
[13:36] <Pilot> Can anyone help me figure out why Firefox doesnt want to use my installed jre6?  Installed both via adept and via Sun's .bin download.
[13:36] <ciperlone> are you using compiz ou beryl?
[13:37] <ciperlone> ore none of them?
[13:37] <chillmann> ciperlone: actually I think I'm using Kwin. I just upgraded to gutsy.
[13:37] <ciperlone> hmm
[13:37] <chillmann> ciperlone: yes, KWin
[13:37] <ciperlone> because if you are using compiz, it takes control of default kde shortcuts
[13:38] <ciperlone> i'm sorry, i cannot help you
[13:38] <ciperlone> unless you expecify the problem
[13:38] <ciperlone> but i cannot promisse anything
[13:38] <chillmann> ciperlone: I just double-checked. Definitely no compiz. It's not even installed
[13:39] <chillmann> it's quite funny that it's only not working from the apps
[13:39] <chillmann> but it's working on the desktop
[13:40] <ciperlone> WHICH apps?
[13:40] <chillmann> all
[13:40] <chillmann> like when an application window has the focus, alt-f5 does nothing
[13:40] <ciperlone> r u using kde?
[13:40] <chillmann> yes
[13:41] <chillmann> when on a desktop without any windows, alt-f5 shoes me a nice list of all windows in my KDE environment sorted by desktop
[13:41] <chillmann> as it should be...
[13:41] <ciperlone> did you double check everything in the kde shortcut area?
[13:41] <chillmann> yep
[13:42] <chillmann> the shortcuts are fine in general
[13:42] <chillmann> the problem is that the system wide shortcuts are ignored in application windows
[13:42] <chillmann> they only work when the desktop has the focus
[13:42] <ciperlone> that's strange...
[13:42] <Lynoure> chillmann: have you always had that problem, or did it start after one change or another?
[13:42] <chillmann> Lynoure: it started after my upgrade to gutsy
[13:43] <ciperlone> mayke an sudo aptitude update will solve the problem
[13:43] <chillmann> ciperlone: all packages are up to date
[13:44] <ciperlone> well, i'm sorry but i cannot help. if i was a dev I will ask you to type some commands in the terminal, but since i'm not...
[13:45] <chillmann> ciperlone: thanks anyway
[13:46] <ciperlone> you're welcome :)
[13:46] <Norgur> hey, i got a problem with my german Microsoft keyboard
[13:47] <Norgur> on this, the keys @ and / do not work with Kubuntu
[13:47] <Norgur> what is going wrong there?
[13:47] <llutz> Norgur: check kbd-layout in 7etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:48] <Norgur> what shall i look for?
[13:49] <llutz> Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
[13:49] <llutz> Norgur: then "Layout" and "Variant"
[13:50] <somekool> hello, my french-canadian keybaord works in X, but not in KDE ??? Why would that be ???
[13:50] <somekool> I do setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout ca -variant fr and it works in any WM but KDE .... I cannot believe this ...
[13:50] <Lynoure> somekool: do you have it similarly set up in the kde settings?
[13:51] <somekool> yes
[13:51] <somekool> I can do some accent but not all
[13:51] <somekool> its like incomplete french keybaord
[13:51] <somekool> wait I just discovered something
[13:52] <somekool> I am in E17 at the moment, and the french keybaord works NICE in xterm but not in Konversation
[14:00] <jembouge> somekool, are there so many differences between your canadian-french keyboard and my french-french one?
[14:00] <jembouge> cause mine works just perfectly
[14:02] <Norgur> in my xorg.conf there is the line   Option          "XkbOptions"    "lv3:ralt_switch" at the keyboard section
[14:02] <Norgur> what does it say?
[14:21] <yaccin> how is it possible, that wlan works with ubuntu, but not with kubuntu?
[14:21] <yaccin> -_-
[14:24] <somekool> jembouge: many yes ;)
[14:24] <yaccin> :(
[14:24] <Kachna> hey guys, anyone can play .rm files in mplayer?
[14:25] <spawn57> man I wish compiz wouldn't crash a few times every bloody day
[14:25] <somekool> Norgur: i dont have the XkbOptions
[14:25] <WaltzingAlong> spawn57: tis not crashing at all here (thanks kwin)
[14:26] <spawn57> yeah i'm using kwin atm ..I like compiz a lot though :(
[14:26]  * somekool restarting X
[14:27] <yaccin> how can i enable wlan in kubuntu, when it just works in ubuntu???
[14:29] <jxxt> kachna, i cant>>
[14:30] <Kachna> pretty bad :-( i can play sound only..using smplayer..cna play rm files in realplay, but can't get my subtitles working there :-
[14:30] <Kachna> (
[14:31] <xcieja> jestpolak
[14:32] <xcieja> ?
[14:32] <yaccin_> anyone?
[14:32] <yaccin_> wlan works now, but no wpa
[14:32] <yaccin_> (which worked in ubuntu/gnome just fine)
[14:33] <anto> Can somone help me fix my gtk widgets they are so dam ugly -> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/files/testgtk.png
[14:33] <ctonio> hola buenas
[14:34] <Kachna> k,so,anyone knows how to convert .rm to .avi? :P mpeg or so
[14:34] <JackWinter> what is the best way of filesharing between 2 kubuntu computers ?  nfs?
[14:34] <JackWinter> or maybe smb?
[14:35] <anto> http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder
[14:35] <anto> Kachna: http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder
[14:35] <Kachna> anto: cool,thx a lot ;)
[14:36] <anto> Kachna: no problems it just took me 2 second on google with the correct keywords :P
[14:36] <Kachna> damn thought I'm a good googler :P
[14:37] <iceEra> how do i add a network printer?
[14:37] <anto> Kachna: how to search google is not to write a sentence but the key words in it
[14:37] <Kachna> i know :-)
[14:37] <anto> linux convert rm to avi
[14:38] <anto> is what i used
[14:38] <Kachna> similar here...dunno exactly :P
[14:38] <anto> :P
[14:38] <anto> Anyone here that can help me with my gtk problem?
[14:39] <Kachna> however, i kinda work in company that aims for search engines optimisation,so i should learn that all :P
[14:39] <anto> haha okej :P
[14:41] <asktoby_> I note that gspca-source, the driver for my webcam, is in the repositories.
[14:41] <asktoby_> If I install it from there, how would I go about building it?
[14:41] <asktoby_> What is the benefit over just downloading the tarball from the dev's website?
[14:43] <yaccin_> how can i use wpa in kubuntu/kde when it worked un ubuntu/gnome?
[14:44] <emilsedgh> asktoby_: you should compile it of you het the source.to compile it you need hundreds of -devel packages that have nothing for you
[14:45] <emilsedgh> s/het/get
[14:57] <somekool> I am trying to install the kde4rc1 packages on kubuntu but I am getting some error, few packages are missing or something...
[15:01] <zarath> After resizing an NTFS partition I get the following error: 'current ntfs volume size is bigger than the device size'. It cannot be mounted any more. It won't boot into WinXP either (but my Linux partition is fine). What tools can I use to try to fix the errors or recover some data?
[15:05] <Hizzle> Do I need to format c: myself if I am to switch vista with kubuntu or is there a way I can do that with the cd?
[15:05] <Hizzle> c: = harddrive
[15:06] <Radi01> Hizzle: if all you are installing is ubuntu/chose full partition on installation.
[15:06] <asktoby_> emilsedgh: I understand that I will need to compile it - I guess my question is what is the benefit of installing source via apt rather than downloading a tarball?
[15:07] <Hizzle> hmm dont remember seeing that option on bootup
[15:07] <Radi01> Will it be the only o/s on the drive?
[15:07] <Hizzle> ya
[15:08] <Radi01> Then when you get to partition click (manual/full) it will do the whole drive automatically/easy as pie.
[15:09] <Hizzle> now the install update cd is that a cd I have to provide or is that something I can get offline? Just curious
[15:10] <Radi01> do the install od o/s first the rest can be done online.
[15:10] <Radi01> of
[15:11] <jembouge> hi there, I installed kubuntu 7.10 and kdm is displaying this : http://jujufouq.free.fr/fichiers/kdm.jpg
[15:11] <jembouge> anyone can help?
[15:11] <Radi01> Just make sure your internet is functional when you install the o/s so it can read mirror info and see what you are doing /so it can make proper adjustments.
[15:12] <pierreth> What are you using to import CDs?
[15:12] <Hizzle> lol ya thats a good thing to do, glad I forgot
[15:15] <Hamra> jembouge: im sorry i cant be of much help, but this used to happen with me when i boot kubuntu on my boss' PC, never knew hot to solve it though!
[15:15] <Hamra> how*
[15:16] <pechan> hey
[15:16] <pechan> ayuda
[15:16] <pechan> alguien me ayude
[15:16] <Xplicit> are there any programs that can remote desktop connect to a vista machine (i mean the default vista service not installing vnc or another 3rd party)
[15:16] <pechan> porfavoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor
[15:16] <Xplicit> !es
[15:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:16] <Radi01> lol
[15:19] <didoman> quelqu'un peut me dire comment installer le comilateur gcc je l'ai telechargé avec l'adept mais rien a faire
[15:19] <jembouge> Hamra: ya kdm (when working) is really cool, and that's great to advertise Linux to friends
[15:20] <jembouge> didoman: t'as juste téléchargé sans lui demander d'installer?
[15:20] <didoman> mais normalement il installe automatiquement
[15:21] <jembouge> Hamra: did you find any ressource on the internet concerning that matter? cause I find nothing nowhere
[15:21] <jembouge> didoman: bah oui, d'où mon étonnement.
[15:21] <jembouge> Perso, je n'utilise pas adept
[15:21] <jembouge> essaye par ligne de commande
[15:22] <jembouge> apt-get install ...
[15:22] <jembouge> ou sinon (ce que j'utilise souvent) c'est synaptic
[15:22] <didoman> ok merci jembouge
[15:22] <jembouge> pas de koi
[15:23] <smooker> anyone know where is G++ after i install it ?
[15:24] <smooker> or how to start it
[15:24] <smooker> ?
[15:24] <somekool> type g++
[15:24] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:24] <somekool> I have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/
[15:25] <jembouge> smooker: if you use synaptic, you can get that kind of info by selecting the package, right-click and properties
[15:28] <yuanjin> Hello
[15:29] <yuanjin> Anyone here?
[15:30] <Radi01> Whats up.
[15:31] <yuanjin> I meet a problem when I installed a software, which called Cn3D.
[15:31] <Hamra> jembouge: i didnt even search, well, kdm is really cool, and it works fine on all of the PCs i've encountered so far, it's only my Boss' one, i'm not sure about this, but i think it's the LCD, since my PC has the same exact hardware except the monitor!
[15:33] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:33] <yuanjin> It always show me ¨core dumped¨ when I try to run the program
[15:33] <smooker> stil i cant start G++
[15:33] <smooker> i used adept to install
[15:33] <yaccin> smooker: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:35] <yuanjin> Could anyone give me some advice?
[15:35] <smooker> then what ?
[15:35] <yaccin> smooker: to run g++ just use the command gcc
[15:36] <smooker> gcc: no input files
[15:37] <yaccin> man gcc
[15:37] <yaccin> what are you trying to do?
[15:37] <Radi01> yuanjin: tru #ubuntu
[15:37] <jembouge> Hamra: I used to use debian with KDE and KDM, also tried Mandriva (and Mandrake before) and other distros, and I never had this problem before
[15:37] <Radi01> try
[15:38] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:38] <jembouge> Hamra: I'm wondering whether this isn't because of the X11 server...
[15:38] <jembouge> Hamra: the background picture is set to scale to fit the screen
[15:38] <jembouge> Hamra: (this is what I think I found in a file)
[15:38] <smooker> k
[15:39] <smooker> but Gcc doesnt want to start
[15:39] <niko_> hi to all
[15:39] <jembouge> Hamra: Everywhere I can read, the text size is properly defined and set to something small.
[15:39] <niko_> i need help to correctly install compiz
[15:39] <niko_> fusion
[15:39] <yaccin> smooker: what are you trying to do?
[15:40] <jembouge> Hamra: thanks for your help, I'll go on digging
[15:40] <Hamra> jembouge: sorry for not being so helpful
[15:40] <smooker> to start the compiler GCC
[15:41] <yaccin> smooker: what do you want to compile?
[15:41] <Radi01> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358193
[15:41] <Radi01> G++
[15:42] <jembouge> Hamra: no problem, I'm not very helpful either you know :p  Good to try. Anyway, atm I just bypass KDM with automatic logon.
[15:42] <jhutchins> !build | smooker
[15:42] <ubotu> smooker: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:42] <somekool> I have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/
[15:42] <yaccin> smooker: gcc youryourcode.cpp
[15:42] <somekool> I have dependency problem with ubuntu since I tried installing KDE4 .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/
[15:42] <jhutchins> somekool: No need to repeat yourself.  KDE4 is not a stable release.
[15:43] <jembouge> Hamra: I just need KDM to show off to my friends who are still running non-open-source software.
[15:43] <niko_> no one can help me?
[15:43] <Radi01> about what.
[15:43] <niko_> compiz fusion
[15:43] <jembouge> niko_ : installing the packages is quite easy, but I didn't find where to go to activate it... sorry
[15:43] <Radi01> not work or what
[15:44] <jembouge> I'd be interested in it btw if someone could tell
[15:44] <Radi01> compriz config from synapt
[15:44] <jhutchins> niko_: #compiz
[15:46] <magical_trevsky> hi, does anyone know why audiocd:/ in konqueror doesn't seem to have a flac folder anymore in gutsy?
[15:46] <somekool> jhutchins: that's right. but now I cannot install anything anymore. its like apt-get is broken...
[15:47] <jhutchins> !aptfix | somekool
[15:47] <ubotu> somekool: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:47] <niko_> i'm back
[15:47] <niko_> compiz needs Xgl?
[15:48] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[15:48] <smooker> is there any other good program like compiz ?
[15:48] <yaccin> smooker: yes, you can also use vista or leopard
[15:49] <Radi01> leopard is macs version of vista...not good.
[15:49] <jembouge> hey yaccin you're not talking linux software
[15:49] <smooker> vista and leopard are os's i think
[15:49] <jembouge> indeed
[15:49] <yaccin> jembouge: :P
[15:49] <jembouge> there's something called "mesa" or so
[15:49] <niko_> some one can help me with compiz fusion?
[15:49] <jembouge> :p
[15:49] <niko_> i'm on kubuntu
[15:49] <niko_> 7.1
[15:49] <yuanjin> me too
[15:50] <tarin> does anyone else have trouble starting konversation in gutsy?
[15:50] <jembouge> no
[15:50] <yaccin> niko_: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-* compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:50] <jembouge> tarin: never got any pb with Konversation
[15:50] <yuanjin> either
[15:50] <Blissex> smooker: Beryl and Matisse and Looking Glass and a few others.
[15:50] <yaccin> tarin: no
[15:50] <niko_> i've done
[15:50] <niko_> before reformatting all
[15:50] <yaccin> i only have problems with WPA, which worked fine when i used gnome o.O
[15:50] <yuanjin> I had tried that before
[15:51] <smooker> where do i get Beryl ?
[15:51] <tarin> hmmmm
[15:51] <jembouge> yaccin: I did that too, but I can't find the way to actually activate it
[15:51] <Radi01> beryl is not supported its now compriz
[15:51] <[ifr0g]> Hi, Whats the reason be hide the windows boot phenomena for wireless card power ups ?
[15:51] <yaccin> alt + F2 > "compiz --replace"
[15:51] <somekool> jhutchins: did not work
[15:51] <Blissex> smooker: Google it -- but it is getting merged with Compiz actually.
[15:51] <niko_> but i know
[15:51] <smooker> so i dont have to uninstal compiz ?
[15:52] <yaccin> smooker: compiz + beryl = compiz fusion
[15:52] <yaccin> they merged
[15:52] <yaccin> if you have compiz then you have compiz fusion
[15:52] <niko_> yaccin
[15:53] <smooker> ive just installed fustion plugins from apt
[15:53] <Hamra> hi, in display manager, when i press the test button, if everything went ok, what am i supposed to see? what happens? coz im not sure if things are right with me.
[15:55] <sparr_> many hard drives used to store particular types of files.  one for music, one for movies, etc.  I want to access their contents (nice directory hierarchies) as if they were subdirectories of one location.  I tried symlinks, but they fail when relative paths go above the symlinked structure.  Is there any better way short of actually mounting the driives where I want to access them?
[15:56] <jhutchins> sparr_: Why wouldn't you do  exactly that?
[15:57] <sparr_> jhutchins: because mounting things at random points in the filesystem seems like bad form, especially when they are already mounted elsewhere.  also because it would require moving things to the top level of the drives, instead of having the same base hierarchy on some of them
[15:58] <jhutchins> Ok, so you need to effectively mount a subdirectory of the drive in a filesystem.
[15:58] <jhutchins> sparr_: Read up on the docs for the mount command, this can be done.
[15:58] <sparr_> mount --bind ?
[15:59] <sparr_> also, it will pollute my mtab
[16:00] <flake> what is that bar at the bottom of the pic called, like from what package?  http://linuxappfinder.com/screenshot_viewer/all/1875_avast_update
[16:00] <Hamra> now that you mentioned mounting, how can i mount a CD image?
[16:00] <sparr_> Hamra: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/iso
[16:00] <sparr_> after mkdir /media/iso
[16:00] <sparr_> and with sudo  :)
[16:03] <niko_> i'm in trouble with fstab
[16:03] <niko_> it doesn't male me write
[16:03] <niko_> make
[16:04] <niko_> UUID=E498-244C  /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[16:04] <Hamra> thnx  sparr_
[16:04] <niko_> is correct?
[16:05] <sparr_> that UUID seems short
[16:06] <yaccin> anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/
[16:06] <maduser> what kind of wirells card do you have?
[16:07] <smooker> guys how do u get working the compizfusion Animations ?
[16:07] <Radi01> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[16:07] <yaccin> maduser: an usb stick
[16:07] <yaccin> Radi01: i tried that
[16:07] <maduser> never mind
[16:07] <yaccin> in gnome its just plug and play and it works with wpa
[16:07] <maduser> i only know how to fix broadcom
[16:08] <yaccin> on kde i plug it in and it only works without encryption
[16:08] <maduser> you might have to google it
[16:08] <Radi01> ya
[16:10] <Radi01> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[16:10] <Radi01> encryption in kde
[16:12] <Lynoure> Radi01: knetwork-manager does those too...
[16:13] <Radi01> I didn't know/Just googling with common sense with app application.
[16:13] <yaccin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu << doesnt work
[16:14] <Radi01> Google your (problem).
[16:14] <yaccin> i did
[16:14] <yaccin> thats the best thing i found
[16:14] <maduser> theres better
[16:15] <Radi01> butter?
[16:15] <Lynoure> yaccin: Tell me what happens instead of working?
[16:16] <yaccin> Lynoure: it works but only without encryption
[16:16] <yaccin> when i switch to gnome encryption (WPA) works
[16:16] <Lynoure> yaccin: you still see the encrypted wifis?
[16:16] <yaccin> yes
[16:16] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys... what is a good mail notifier daemon for kde?.. I'm used to cgmail on gnome if this will work fine in kde then great otherwise let me know of anything that comes highly recommended..
[16:16] <Lynoure> But cannot connect to them?
[16:16] <yaccin> and i have to enter the password
[16:16] <yaccin> and then it stops at ~28%
[16:17] <Paddy_EIRE> hey Lynoure
[16:17] <Radi01> I never used wireless/but isn't there simple on and off settings?
[16:17] <Lynoure> yaccin: tried restarting knetworkmanager already?
[16:17] <yaccin> Lynoure: i also tried rebooting
[16:18] <stdin> Paddy_EIRE: something like "kcheckgmail - KDE systray application to check GMail accounts" ?
[16:18] <Paddy_EIRE> thanks man
[16:18] <Lynoure> yaccin: interfaces commented out from /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:19] <Radi01> good point
[16:20] <yaccin> Lynoure: i am currently online using wlan...
[16:20] <yaccin> but its not encrypted
[16:20] <yaccin> i can only use WPA when im in gnome
[16:20] <Lynoure> yaccin: different wlan, then?
[16:21] <yaccin> Lynoure: no :)
[16:21] <yaccin> i have a fonero router
[16:21] <Radi01> log time
[16:21] <yaccin> it has 2 channels
[16:21] <yaccin> 1 with WPA and a Free, unencrypted one
[16:21] <yaccin> both work in gnome
[16:21] <yaccin> but when i switch to kde the WPA channel doesnt work
[16:21] <Radi01> How goes it Hizzle.
[16:22] <Hizzle> got it up and running just figuring stuff out
[16:22] <Radi01> nice
[16:22] <Hizzle> chatting off konversation was trying to download xchat but dont understand the whole rpm thing
[16:22] <Hizzle> .rpm*
[16:23] <remotechief_311> How can I create a link to trash?
[16:23] <Lynoure> yaccin: I can tell you that wifi wpa works for me in kubuntu under knetwork-manager... but I think it took commenting out those interfaces
[16:23] <yaccin> Hizzle: rpm?
[16:23] <yaccin> Lynoure: but why do the then work in gnome?
[16:23] <yaccin> and where do i have to comment it out?
[16:24] <yaccin> and... well am i not currently using the interface=
[16:24] <Hizzle> I clicked download xchat for fedora because it was only linux download there and has a bunch of .rpm files there
[16:24] <yaccin> ?
[16:24] <Lynoure> yaccin: I don't use gnome, I can just tell it works for me...
[16:24] <Radi01> Hizzle get it fro add/remove to make it simple.
[16:24] <Radi01> from
[16:25] <yaccin> Lynoure: where would i have to comment them out?
[16:25] <Radi01> Pidgin is simple  and easy to use for beginners of ubuntu.
[16:25] <Lynoure> yaccin: well,  if your /etc/network/intefaces no longer has other interfaces that loopback, that part is fine :)
[16:25] <remotechief_311> trash:/ , is that right?
[16:25] <yaccin> Lynoure: it has eht0 (normnal network) and eth1 (wlan)
[16:25] <yaccin> and i am in this chat using wlan
[16:25] <yaccin> i removed the network cable :)
[16:26] <soulrider> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3878146#post3878146 if someone knows please answer
[16:27] <Lynoure> yaccin: Sometimes you need to break a little to fix a little, try commenting at least eth1 out, and restarting networkmanager (or just rebooting). If it does not help, you can easily uncomment them again
[16:27] <yaccin> but i want to easily switch between wireless and wired network :/
[16:27] <jembouge> remotechief_311: link to trash is   "trash:/"       :)
[16:27] <Lynoure> yaccin: then comment out both
[16:28] <Lynoure> yaccin: knetwork-manager deals with that automatically then
[16:28] <remotechief_311> jembouge: ok, thanks
[16:28] <yaccin> Lynoure: i wouldnt have any network then? o.O
[16:29] <Hamra> how can i make numlock to be "on" on startup?
[16:29] <Lynoure> yaccin: Yes, you would. It just cannot configure interfaces that are already defined
[16:29] <yaccin> hmm ok ill try taht
[16:29] <Lynoure> yaccin: and see what I said about uncommenting
[16:30] <Radi01> Lynoure: Thanks.
[16:30] <Radi01> I am lost there.
[16:30] <jembouge> remotechief_311 there's another (and better) way though
[16:30] <Lynoure> Radi01: hmm?
[16:30] <jembouge> have a look at http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/
[16:31] <jembouge> probably doesn't work somewhere else but on the desktop
[16:32] <Radi01> I am just learning linux/It appears that linix is more logical than bill gates.
[16:32] <Radi01> apt-get uninstall./bill gates.
[16:32] <emilsedgh> hehe
[16:33] <vincent__> ^^
[16:33] <yaccin> apt-get remove
[16:33] <yaccin> not uninstall
[16:33] <yaccin> :P
[16:33] <Lynoure> Radi01: I would not bet on it, always :)
[16:34] <Radi01> Agreed/but when the linux community (and it is) catches up/bill will be wearing a sign/will work for bytes.
[16:35] <RurouniJones> Not in this lifetime
[16:35] <RurouniJones> Much as it would make me laugh to watch
[16:38] <Radi01> Interesting , leaopard is vista in mac form...
[16:38] <Radi01> total trash
[16:39] <Radi01> google it.
[16:44] <Lynoure> yaccin: you could also try connecting to your wpa trough "connect to other wireless network" and filling in the details.
[16:45] <jembouge> hi again, anyone know why I have that file "debian_version" with the line "lenny/sid" in it although I was installing GutsyGibbon?
[16:46] <stdin> jembouge: it's just a remnant, Kubuntu us derived from Debian
[16:46] <stdin> s/us/is/
[16:49] <viajador> Hi there! I'm having a charset issue with an external drive. It doesn't recognize symbols like "à" or "õ"
[16:49] <viajador> Can someone help me with this?
[16:50] <Lynoure> viajador: what filesystem does it have?
[16:50] <viajador> ntfs
[16:50] <jembouge> oh ok thanks stdin (I should have remembered I saw Lenny when running debian - but I ran the last one which isn't if I'm not mistaking)
[16:50] <viajador> But i have the same FS in my windows partition and everything works there!
[16:56] <Hamra> i have a problem similar to viajador's problem, i have a cd with files having arabic names, i see them as dashes
[16:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !touchpad
[16:57] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[16:59] <Hizzle> trying to install xchat is kinda hard since I dont really know what I am doing, it downloads as a .rpm file and I tried using the add/remove programs but it dont show up under search
[17:00] <Hamra> why do most companies use rpm? isnt debian more widespread? or maybe rpm packages are easier to build?
[17:01] <Lynoure> Hizzle: Why would you install xchat from a .rpm?
[17:01] <Hizzle> I dont know
[17:01] <Hizzle> it says download xchat and has linux and windows link
[17:02] <Hizzle> I hit linux
[17:02] <Lynoure> Certainly there is one natively for ubuntu, too.
[17:02] <Radi01> Hizzle is new?he needs simple walk throughs.
[17:02] <Hizzle> and all there are is .rpm's
[17:02] <Hizzle> ya I am a noob sorry need to get a linux book
[17:02] <Lynoure> Hizzle: try   sudo aptitude install xchat    instead
[17:02] <Radi01> Hizzle: in terminal type    sudo apt-get update    come back with report
[17:03] <Lynoure> Hizzle: it's ok, everything new takes its time
[17:03] <stdin> tip: don't paste anything longer than 2-3 lines here, use pastebin instead
[17:04] <Hizzle> Radi01: msged you with results so I dont flood channel
[17:05] <Radi01> dpkg --configure -a
[17:06] <stdin> sudo ^
[17:06] <Radi01> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:06] <Radi01> thx
[17:07] <Cannoli> guys
[17:07] <Radi01> @ the prompt enter (y) and ...enjoy.
[17:07] <Cannoli> i need major help
[17:08] <Lynoure> Cannoli: Ask away
[17:08] <didoman> how to edit the contain of LD_LIBRARY_PATH ???
[17:08] <Cannoli> i installed the ati drvier for kubuntu and now when i boot up my computer the first version of linux shows a blank screen and the second version of linux has a giant black bar covering most of the left side
[17:08] <Cannoli> should i get rid of the driver? or what do i do now?
[17:08] <stdin> didoman: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/you/want:/another/path/you/want"
[17:09] <Hizzle> Radi01: what should I try next?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[17:09] <Radi01> did you   sudo dpkg --configure -a       ?
[17:09] <MementoMori> hi
[17:09] <MementoMori> where sudo/kdesudo commands are logged?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> almost snowed in here
[17:10] <Radi01> hizzle
[17:10] <Hizzle> ya just did it sorry missed that msg up there but this is what I got
[17:10] <Hizzle> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main T                                                                                                   ranslation-en_US
[17:10] <Hizzle> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restri                                                                                                   cted Translation-en_US
[17:10] <Hizzle> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                                                                                                   able)
[17:10] <Hizzle> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                                                                   ess using it?
[17:10] <Radi01> oi
[17:10] <Hizzle> damn sorry
[17:10] <Hizzle> one sec
[17:11] <Hizzle> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[17:11] <Hizzle> still used to ctrl+C for copy
[17:11] <Radi01> Hizzle
[17:12] <Radi01> lol
[17:12] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | Hizzle
[17:12] <ubotu> Hizzle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:12] <Cannoli> anyone?
[17:12] <stdin> MementoMori: /var/log/auth.log search for "sudo:"
[17:12] <Radi01> do that Hizzle
[17:12] <didoman> stdin :can u rxecute this command for me "env | grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH" plz
[17:13] <stdin> didoman: I don't have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set
[17:13] <Radi01>  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:13] <MementoMori> stdin: thank you
[17:13] <stdin> Cannoli: if it's not working, there's little else to do but remove it and/or switch to the "ati" driver
[17:14] <Hizzle> alright did that
[17:14] <Cannoli> ok so how can i remove the ati driver from both versions of linux
[17:15] <stdin> Cannoli: remove the package, or if you have gutsy use the restricted drivers manager
[17:16] <Radi01> try alt+f2
[17:16] <Radi01> xchat
[17:16] <asfak> I cannot run 3d games on my kubuntu gutsy. I have installed nvidia legacy driver as usual. Restricted manager shows the driver in use. I get this message when i start some games from konsole "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'"
[17:17] <Hizzle> says cannot run specified command
[17:17] <Radi01> try in terminal to see any possible errors
[17:17] <stdin> asfak: do you have "Load    "glx"" under "Section "Module"" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[17:17] <Radi01> xchat
[17:18] <asfak> let me check
[17:19] <asfak> stdin, glx is already there in modules
[17:20] <Hizzle> says that it is not installed and I can get it by typing sudo apt-get install xchat  which I did then it says  I need to get a program called universe b ut typed that command said different stuff it was doing then  said cannot find package xchat
[17:21] <Hizzle> (said I needed a program called universe before I typed the install command not afterwards)
[17:21] <stdin> asfak: and does "glxinfo |grep direct" show "direct rendering: Yes" ?
[17:21] <Mergitur> Hi, I followed the instructions for how to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. About halfway through I got an error involving kdepim and kmail not being able to upgrade, and eventually the entire upgrade shut down. Is there any easy way for me to get the upgrade working or will I have to do a reinstall to get to 7.10?
[17:21] <asfak> no,
[17:21] <jhutchins> Hizzle: I don't think universe is a program, I think it's a repository.
[17:21] <MementoMori> In my kubuntu I have 62 groups. Most of them are system groups. Where can I find their meaning and what are supposed to do?
[17:22] <Hizzle> ya says I need to enable the component
[17:22] <stdin> asfak: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin then please
[17:22] <jhutchins> !repos | Hizzle
[17:22] <ubotu> Hizzle: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:22] <[GuS]> schusselkopp: ?
[17:22] <Radi01> in add/remove...click at the top (all).
[17:22] <sylvain-fr> hi all
[17:22] <MementoMori> !groups
[17:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:23] <sylvain-fr> can someone help me please ?
[17:23] <asfak> stdin, i am new to IRC, can u please help, how to post to pastebin ?
[17:23] <Radi01> then click internet and click xchat
[17:23] <sylvain-fr> my question is about filesystems
[17:23] <stdin> !paste | asfak
[17:23] <ubotu> asfak: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:23] <Hizzle> I dont see anything an all button
[17:23] <jhutchins> MementoMori: Start here: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/
[17:24] <MementoMori> jhutchins: thank you
[17:24] <sylvain-fr> Is there any File System which both Linux and BSD can read and write ?
[17:24] <jhutchins> Hizzle: When ubotu refers you to a web page it's because the answer to your question is too complex to post here easily.  You should at least skim the web page before proceeding.
[17:25] <stdin> sylvain-fr: can't bsd write to ext2/3 ?
[17:25] <Radi01> @ the top you will see. anysuite..click it and click (all)
[17:25] <jhutchins> sylvain-fr: There are few if any that they both can not read and write.
[17:25] <asfak> stdin, i am on very slow dial-up network, so i will take time. ...
[17:25] <sylvain-fr> ok, thanks
[17:26] <Hizzle> jhutchins: I am trying to do that at the same time listening to radi01
[17:26] <sylvain-fr> so Linux and BSD can read and write ext3
[17:26] <Hizzle> I just get KDE and GNOME nothing else besides anysuite
[17:26] <Radi01> no arrow with it?
[17:27] <sylvain-fr> and what about BSD's default FS ? Can I install BSD on an ext3 FS ?
[17:27] <asfak> stdin , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46589/
[17:27] <stdin> sylvain-fr: it's best to ask that in a BSD channel, I'd assume that it can
[17:27] <Hizzle> there is an arrow next to it but just KDE and GNOME for options
[17:28] <Radi01> oi I have no idea then  never encountered that one..sry.
[17:28] <sylvain-fr> is there a BSD chan here ?
[17:28] <Hizzle> lol its np thanks for helping me this far
[17:28] <Radi01> try re-booting since you changed registry
[17:28] <Hizzle> k will try that
[17:28] <stdin> sylvain-fr: what variant of BSD?
[17:29] <sylvain-fr> FreeBSD
[17:29]  * seelenschmerz ist jetzt AWAY (grund: bin mal etwas tv schauen ......ist eh nirgends was los ...........)
[17:29] <stdin> sylvain-fr: ##freebsd
[17:29] <stdin> !away > seele|afk
[17:29] <sylvain-fr> thanks
[17:30] <asfak> stdin, did u see my xorg ?
[17:30] <sylvain-fr> ?? when I try yo join, I get this message : "[Canal] You need to be identified to join that channel"
[17:30] <stdin> asfak: I'm looking at it
[17:30] <ksal> hi
[17:30] <ksal> my HP deskjet 3325 doesn't want to work on mu gutsy
[17:30] <ksal> my*
[17:30] <stdin> !resister | sylvain-fr, follow these instructions
[17:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resister - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:31] <stdin> bah
[17:31] <sylvain-fr> !resister
[17:31] <ksal> system can't even find it.
[17:31] <stdin> !register | sylvain-fr, follow these instructions
[17:31] <ubotu> sylvain-fr, follow these instructions: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[17:31] <ksal> can someone help me?
[17:31] <ksal> i had no problem on fedora
[17:32] <stdin> asfak: changing it to this should work hopefully http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46591/
[17:32] <asfak> ok
[17:32] <sylvain-fr> erf
[17:32] <ksal> kubuntu is known of great ability to find any device and automatically configure it. what's with that printer then?
[17:32] <sylvain-fr> thank you
[17:32] <stdin> !print | ksal
[17:32] <ubotu> ksal: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[17:34] <MementoMori> jhutchins: thank you for your previous link but it does not explain at all linux system groups
[17:35] <sylvain-fr> thank you stdin
[17:35] <sylvain-fr> bye
[17:35] <stdin> bye
[17:35] <emilsedgh> aah
[17:36] <Radi01> stdin: sorry about the hard time I gave you earlier.
[17:37] <jhutchins> MementoMori: You can't have read it all yet.
[17:37] <jhutchins> MementoMori: Besides, there's more.
[17:37] <ksal> geez
[17:37] <ksal> it doesn't help me!
[17:37] <ksal> stdin: i have everything installed
[17:37] <jhutchins> MementoMori: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/ch-acctsgrps.html
[17:38] <jhutchins> MementoMori: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/ch-acctsgrps.html
[17:38] <stdin> wow, power went "poof" for a sec :p
[17:38] <jhutchins> (woops)
[17:38] <jhutchins> MementoMori: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-users.html
[17:38] <Radi01>  stdin: sorry about the hard time I gave you earlier.
[17:39] <stdin> Radi01: did you?
[17:39] <Radi01> k
[17:39] <stdin> really, I don't remember :p
[17:39] <jhutchins> MementoMori: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/news/linuxanatomy_0101.html
[17:39] <Radi01> The upside down text?
[17:40] <jhutchins> ksal: go to the cups web page and look for your printer model to see if it is supported.
[17:40] <stdin> Radi01: I remember the upside-down text, just not the "hard time"
[17:40] <tiezzi> ciao a tutti
[17:40] <stdin> !it
[17:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:40] <ksal> jhutchins: geez, it is supported!
[17:41] <ksal> you won't help me, bye
[17:41] <MementoMori> jhutchins: I read the relevant parts (searching for groups I havent read the filsystem chapter). but thank you for that list!
[17:41] <jhutchins> ksal: k, no problem then.
[17:41] <SoulChild> HI ALL! How must i configure grub to load vista from my extended device /dev/sda5 ???
[17:41] <sigma_> how do i share a gprs internet connection in kubuntu? from my pc to others on the network
[17:41] <maduser> vista as defult?
[17:42] <sigma_> windows had a simple sharing dialog, don't see that anywhere in kubuntu
[17:42] <jhutchins> MementoMori: RedHat made it a standard to have each user be primarily a member of his own group.  Other systems have them be members of "users" or something like that.  Many programs use groups for cross-program access (ie a program running as a member of the apache group has access to web pages).
[17:43] <jhutchins> MementoMori: There are also "traditional" groups that are holdovers from multi-user Unix mainframes.  They're all included so that programs will be more portable.
[17:43] <Marchese> ciao
[17:43] <jhutchins> MementoMori: Usually system groups will have a GID of less than 500.
[17:43] <jhutchins> MementoMori: Depending on the system, for some it's 100, for others 1000.
[17:44] <warren_> hello
[17:44] <warren_> i need some help
[17:44] <trillis> Hey everyone...
[17:44] <trillis> Haha, me too.
[17:44] <warren_> i installed wine from source but it was buggy
[17:44] <stdin> sigma_: the way I did it a while ago was to install firestarter and use that to set it up
[17:44] <warren_> and now i would like to remove itr
[17:44] <warren_> but
[17:44] <warren_> i don't have the source anymore, i removed manually files
[17:44] <Radi01> hey trillis how did kopete work out.
[17:44] <trillis> sux0rz.
[17:44] <Radi01> oi
[17:44] <sigma_> warren: use the ubuntu deb if you want to install wine
[17:44] <warren_> and now when installing a deb package of it it doesn't work
[17:45] <trillis> Couldn't get it to load the AIM info, got everything else to work though.
[17:45] <warren_> yeah i know
[17:45] <warren_> but i didn't do it
[17:45] <sigma_> stdin: is firestarter available in the ubuntu repo's?
[17:45] <Radi01> Interesting.
[17:45] <stdin> sigma_: yeah
[17:45] <trillis> Hey stdin: Is there a way to make mplayer not have the white sides when watching a widescreen movie?
[17:46] <MementoMori> jhutchins: the info I'm looking for is: a user in the x group can do this this and this, a user in the y group can do this and that
[17:46] <stdin> trillis: never seen that, shows a black border for me
[17:46] <Radi01> trillis: vlc does the rest do not.
[17:46] <trillis> :(
[17:46] <trillis> I have an ati graphics card, could that be the problem?
[17:46] <Radi01> mozilla vlc plugin
[17:46] <jhutchins> MementoMori: Linux can also use acl's.
[17:46] <stdin> trillis: you can try using the "-aspect" and "-monitoraspect" options
[17:46] <Radi01> no
[17:46] <trillis> sudo apt-get install vlc-mozzila-plugin?
[17:46] <Radi01> ya
[17:46] <Radi01> i tried aspect..dont work
[17:47] <Radi01> aspect also screwed up x..
[17:47] <stdin> trillis: it's best to remove mozilla-mplayer before installing another plugin
[17:47] <MementoMori> jhutchins: for example: the first user created in the gusty installation is in admin and adm groups. What privileges gives adm to me?
[17:47] <sigma_> stdin: thanks il take a look, hope it works! i think that should be a applet in kubuntu that caters for file-sharing
[17:47] <jhutchins> Radi01: The options on mplayer are pretty complex (and very extensive), but just switching to vlc might be easier.
[17:47] <Radi01> good point..sry
[17:48] <jhutchins> MementoMori: For one thing the ability to use sudo.
[17:48] <Radi01> exactly
[17:48] <trillis> k...
[17:48] <stdin> sigma_: there is an applet for file sharing
[17:48] <trillis> So.. sudo apt-get uninstall mplayer?
[17:48] <jhutchins> MementoMori: In other distros that might be configured for the group "wheel".
[17:48] <sigma_> stdin: but it doesn't cater for internet sharing or does it?
[17:48] <stdin> trillis: mozilla-mplayer
[17:48] <trillis> k
[17:48] <MementoMori> jhutchins: but for the use of sudo I have to be in the admin group not in adm
[17:48] <stdin> sigma_: internet connection sharing isn't the same as file sharing
[17:49] <jhutchins> MementoMori: Thousands of programs, millions of programmers, a hundred different ways to do just about anything.
[17:49] <MementoMori> $ sudo grep "%adm" /etc/sudoers
[17:49] <MementoMori> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:49] <stdin> sigma_: to share your internet connection you need to change/create some iptables rules, firestarter is a nice GUI for it
[17:49] <trillis> uninstall doesn't seem to be a command...
[17:50] <stdin> trillis: remove :)
[17:50] <Radi01> I dont know the -r command
[17:50] <sigma_> stdin: ya i read about the iptables stuff, didn't have a clue what those guys were going on about
[17:50] <trillis> heheh
[17:50] <MementoMori> jhutchins: ok but maybe I should check the LSB doc for a stardard view about groups...
[17:50] <MementoMori> shouldnt I?
[17:50] <stdin> sigma_: it's all extremely complicated :p
[17:50] <trillis> stdin: You should rename to 'God".
[17:50] <Radi01> hahaha
[17:51] <jhutchins> trillis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[17:51] <stdin> trillis: nah, I don't want the attention ;)
[17:51] <jhutchins> sigma_:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[17:51] <pidzam> hi all
[17:52] <sigma_> stdin: so thats how microsoft made so much cash :)
[17:52] <BluesKaj> stdin, how about linuxgod ?  :)
[17:52] <stdin> BluesKaj: even worse :p
[17:52] <BluesKaj> ; )
[17:52] <trillis> I want "sudo apt-get install vlc-mozilla-plugin?
[17:52] <stdin> use linux for >10 years and you'll probably know as mush as me :)
[17:52] <Radi01> Linux/gooru/god/dont ask again/   lol
[17:53] <MementoMori> jhutchins: by default I'm in adm dip video plugdev netdev powerdev groups and I dont know why... I only want to get this knowledge
[17:53] <Radi01> mozilla-vlc-plugin
[17:53] <trillis> ah
[17:53] <Mergitur> is there any wasy way to see if I've successfully upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 from 7.04? I had the upgrade process crash on me earlier about halfway through. I think I've got it now, but I'm not sure.
[17:53] <trillis> It still said no to me :()
[17:54] <trillis> :(
[17:54] <Radi01> I've been up 16 hrs tired.
[17:54] <asfak> stdin, thanks for the help, but nothing helps. i get this message
[17:54] <asfak> asfak@asfakpc:~$ neverball
[17:54] <asfak> neverball: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[17:54] <asfak> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:54] <stdin> !version | Mergitur
[17:54] <ubotu> Mergitur: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[17:54] <Radi01> system adept.....mozilla vlc plugin
[17:54] <trillis> heheh
[17:54] <[[Charlie]]> !shell
[17:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:54] <[[Charlie]]> !bash
[17:54] <trillis> !stdin
[17:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stdin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:54] <trillis> Awe...
[17:55] <stdin> asfak: not a clue on that one, try asking on their forum (if they have one)
[17:55] <stdin> the bot does know me, he's just keeping it on the down-low
[17:55] <Mergitur> stdin: yes, but it claimed that I was running 7.10 immediatelly after the upgrade process had crashed.
[17:55] <trillis> How come sometimes Adept manager won't load for me?
[17:55] <asfak> thanks
[17:56] <Radi01> no it didnt
[17:56] <stdin> Mergitur: if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and nothing installs, then you should be at gutsy
[17:57] <pidzam> hehe
[17:57] <trillis> Is there anyway to make my Linux look cool?
[17:57] <Mergitur> stdin: ah, alright. I did that and nothing installs. I guess I'm good then. Thanks
[17:57] <trillis> Skins?
[17:57] <stdin> !theme
[17:57] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[17:57] <Radi01> sudo apt-get look cool
[17:57] <llutz> trillis: remove X
[17:57] <trillis> What's x?
[17:57] <stdin> !X
[17:57] <LjL> !x
[17:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:59] <xoqa> 'ello, installed some icons through apt, but they aren't showing up in the control center, any reason why this may be so?
[17:59] <trillis> adept manager didn't find anything for 'mozilla vlc plugin'.
[17:59] <stdin> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[17:59] <Radi01> U have to scroll to mozilla to find it
[17:59] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 144 kB
[18:00] <RxDx> please, how can i install KDE4 on my Gutsy?
[18:00] <Radi01> beg
[18:00] <Radi01> j/k
[18:01] <Radi01> it is in repro
[18:01] <trillis> oh.. the vlc is last..
[18:01] <Radi01> D1oh!
[18:02] <Radi01> hey trillis: U on kde or text
[18:02] <trillis> kde
[18:02] <Radi01> k
[18:02] <MementoMori> MementoMori:
[18:02] <trillis> It's installing.
[18:02] <MementoMori> !repos | MementoMori
[18:02] <trillis> What's a good kde skin?
[18:03] <Radi01> nice  U will like it..when the display says (no video) its loading
[18:03] <stdin> trillis: search, try, repeat
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> !themes
[18:03] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:04] <Mergitur> RxDx: there are instructions from the frontpage of kubuntu.org
[18:04] <Radi01> kde-look.org is cool.
[18:04] <rick_> Hello, I'm using kubuntu. How do I change my display mode?
[18:05] <Radi01> mode?
[18:05] <rick_> screen resalution
[18:05] <RxDx> Mergitur, thanks :)
[18:05] <trillis> System Settings
[18:05] <trillis> >Display
[18:05] <rick_> I looked under system settings
[18:05] <Radi01> system settings/monitor and display
[18:06] <trillis> I don't have a monitor icon on my system settings...
[18:06] <jalbert> Hey all
[18:06] <jalbert> I'm experiencing a weird bug here
[18:06] <Radi01> trillis:I have 1 for sale.
[18:06] <|TroubleMaker|> when partitioning a slave drive from the command line the command should look like: "$ parted -i hdb mkpart primary ext2 0 4000" right? for aprox 4 gig ext 2 partition???? or should i use another command?
[18:07] <rick_> there is no monitor and display under settings
[18:07] <Radi01> U have kde?
[18:07] <jalbert> whenever I load a website that has a Flash applet embedded, my keyboard stops working
[18:07] <ubuntu> need help with Kubuntu pendrive making settings persistent, any takers??
[18:07] <rick_> I'm using the kde version of ubunto. Does that matter?
[18:07] <stdin> |TroubleMaker|: you can use qtparted for a GUI
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> rick_: make sure you have the package "kubuntu-desktop" and all of its dependencies
[18:07] <Radi01> it should be there
[18:08] <rick_> can it be installed as a package?
[18:08] <trillis> Radi01: Heheh, you have an icon for sale?
[18:08] <Radi01> ya lol
[18:08] <|TroubleMaker|> stdin, *sigh* yes i know but this is for my linux class and im looking to verify i understood the man page right..... we are supposed to be working from CLI but i dont have a second drive to mess with.
[18:08] <stdin> rick_: you should have something that looks like http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1528/systemsettingstw5.png
[18:09] <ubuntu> How to I ge the pen drive to list the kernels, It always goes straight into the live mode where I can't save any settings.
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: never done a persistent, but as soon as the bios exits hit "esc" until you see the grub kernel list (or boot up starts, which it shouldn;t)
[18:11] <rick_> nos_ how do I install or know if the kubuntu-desktop is installed?
[18:11] <Cem_UNAL> hi folks
[18:11] <Cem_UNAL> i am upgrading to 8.04
[18:11] <stdin> |TroubleMaker|: besides the fact you're missing "/dev/"  before hdb, yeah, that should make a primary partition of about 2gb at the start of /dev/hdb
[18:11] <Cem_UNAL> is it kde4?
[18:11] <stdin> *4gb
[18:11] <stdin> Cem_UNAL: no
[18:12] <llutz> rick_: apt-cache policy  kubuntu-desktop
[18:12] <|TroubleMaker|> stdin thanks man, without a drive to play with i feel a little handicapped on this topic...no experimentation to veirfy my understanding
[18:12] <stdin> Cem_UNAL: and why in the world are you upgrading to 8.04 ?
[18:12] <Cem_UNAL> stdin: tx
[18:12] <|TroubleMaker|> its a online class
[18:12] <jobbe> hey, is there a nice way to tell the display manager (in my case kdm) to use a different Xorg server than the one installed by kubuntu? I compiled a more recent version which lives in /opt/xorg/bin
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> rick_: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[18:13] <stdin> |TroubleMaker|: a small usb pen drive would work just as well (if you have one), adjusting the size ofcourse
[18:13] <ubuntu> it stop and I get the options f1 -f10  and if I pick anything like rescue mode, it can't find the kernel. IT does the memtest alright. Maybe I need to take a close look at the grub.conf
[18:14] <trillis> sudo apt-get remove hardrive? :-D
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: yeah, probably.
[18:14] <|TroubleMaker|> stdin, good idea maybe i can lay hands on one later today =)
[18:14] <Cem_UNAL> stdin: curiosity :)
[18:14] <Cem_UNAL> only curiosity
[18:15] <stdin> Cem_UNAL: as long as you remember it most likely *will* break, a lot. and it's not supported in here...
[18:15] <rick_> nos_ I found the setting and it worked fine, thanks!
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> rick_: great!
[18:15] <Cem_UNAL> stdin: my machine is not important it is ony desktop machine
[18:15] <stdin> jobbe: replace "ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br" with "ServerCmd=/opt/xorg/bin -br" in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[18:15] <didoman> how to edit perl local settings?
[18:15] <jobbe> ok thanks alot :)
[18:16]  * Cem_UNAL ./upgrade complete && tx && bye
[18:16] <jobbe> that's what I was looking for
[18:16]  * Cem_UNAL reboot
[18:16] <stdin> jobbe: erm, "ServerCmd=/opt/xorg/bin/X -br" rather (forgot the 'X')
[18:16]  * trillis ponders how to install a theme...
[18:17] <stdin> !changethemes | trillis
[18:17] <ubotu> trillis: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[18:17] <didoman> how to edit perl local settings?
[18:17] <stdin> !repeat | didoman
[18:17] <stdin> wake up ubotu
[18:17] <stdin> !repeat
[18:17] <ubotu> didoman: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:18]  * trillis pokes ubotu
[18:18] <didoman> ok sory
[18:18] <jobbe> cya soon (hopefully... :D)
[18:18] <trillis> stdin: The kubuntu link for eye candy said the page doesn't exist.
[18:19] <stdin> trillis: which one
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> hey stdin, you a member now?
[18:19] <stdin> nosrednaekim: yep :)
[18:19] <Hizzle> Just figured out my sound card isn't working and been looking for a website for intel sound card drivers
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> stdin: congrats :D
[18:20] <rothchild> hi, does anyone know any easy way around doing this: http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=156
[18:20] <Hizzle> anyone know of any good help sites or driver sites?
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> !forums
[18:20] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[18:20] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[18:20] <trillis> I hope I don't destroy my comp by 'sudo apt-get install dekorator'.
[18:20] <rothchild> all I want is to hear the audio on video from my phone
[18:22] <nosrednaekim> rothchild: wow... I didn't understand any of that. audio/video is ONE place I've never ventured :D
[18:22] <trillis> stdin: the one ubotu gave me.
[18:23] <stdin> trillis: which link exactly?
[18:24] <jhutchins> Hizzle: You probably want the alsa project page.
[18:24] <jalbert> I'm experiencing a weird bug here
[18:24] <jalbert> whenever I load a website that has a Flash applet embedded, my keyboard stops working
[18:24] <jalbert> anybody ever hear of this bug?
[18:24] <jhutchins> jalbert: What browser?
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> jalbert: search the non-flash part of google ;)
[18:25] <gan|y|med> hi
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> hi gan|y|med
[18:25] <gan|y|med> in kernel 2.6.23.1 does CFQ = CFS??
[18:26] <Megget> When I run Ktorrent, It works fine for a few minutes, and den I suddenly loose my internetconnection. Help anyone?
[18:26] <killermach> I have a PDA phone, and I want to convert some of my OGG files to MP3 to use on my phone, what should I install to convert ogg to mp3?
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> gan|y|med: well, the  2.6.23 does have a CFS, i'm not sure of CFQ is another name for it or not.
[18:26] <gan|y|med> i cannot find cfs in the config
[18:26] <jalbert> this is Firefox 2.0 something
[18:26] <trillis> !themes
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> !convert
[18:26] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about convert - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> gan|y|med: try #linux
[18:26] <jalbert> 2.0.0.10
[18:27] <gan|y|med> thx
[18:27] <fitoria_> hi I just installed compiz fusion and i cant put the cube effect just 2 desktops
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> Megget: losing your internet is a natural by-product of bit-torrenting ;)
[18:27] <jalbert> the non-flash part of google?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> jalbert: a joke... sorry, twas bad :D
[18:27] <gan|y|med> what an obvious, but eternally useful hint. why didn't i get the idea :)
[18:27] <stdin> fitoria_: #compiz-fusion is the place for compiz support
[18:27] <fitoria_> thanks
[18:28] <BluesKaj> killermach, soundKonverter
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> fitoria_: BTW, its in "general settings->desktop size-> horizaontal desktop size" within ccsm
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> gan|y|med: I don't think many of is here recompile the kernel.... but over at #linux thats childs-play :D
[18:29] <rothchild> nosrednaekim did you look at http://www.3gpp.org/ it beggars belief! ;-o
[18:29] <bfrog> is there a guide on how to make src.deb's
[18:29] <bfrog> or whatever their called
[18:29] <trillis> !dekorator
[18:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dekorator - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> bfrog: create them, or install them?
[18:29] <killermach> BluesKaj: thanks..
[18:29] <bfrog> create
[18:29] <trillis> :-\
[18:29] <bfrog> I need to make my own packages
[18:30] <stdin> !packaging | bfrog
[18:30] <ubotu> bfrog: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[18:30] <The_Loller> ho bisogno di un aiuto
[18:30] <bfrog> thanks
[18:30] <BluesKaj> killermach, ym :)
[18:30] <stdin> !it | The_Loller
[18:30] <ubotu> The_Loller: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:30] <BluesKaj> err YW
[18:30] <The_Loller> o sorry
[18:31] <BluesKaj> well, gotta go clear some snow ...big storm here last night
[18:31] <trillis> !domino
[18:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:32] <stdin> trillis: you can /msg ubotu something    to see if ubotu has what you want
[18:33] <iceEra> "!Vlc exs"
[18:33] <trillis> I jsut want to install a theme :(
[18:33] <trillis> But I have to download abunch of other programs apparently.
[18:33] <Megget> nosrednaekim: okej :) Is there some other program I could use, like dc++?
[18:33]  * genii sips a coffee
[18:33] <iceEra> ni
[18:33] <iceEra> you can just download what you need
[18:33] <iceEra> :)
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> Megget: I was just kidding... Ktorrent should not do that.
[18:34] <stdin> trillis: are you following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu  ?
[18:34] <trillis> Er.. hehe no.
[18:34] <iceEra> Or you can just create one your self
[18:34] <iceEra> trillis
[18:34] <Megget> nosrednaekim: hehe, okej... any idea why it does that?
[18:35] <nosrednaekim> Megget: erm no, but I don't use Ktorrent either, so IDK.... could it be your ISP?
[18:35] <trillis> I tired, but I can't seem to make them look transparent and cool, and the bar at the bottom of my screen never changes colors.
[18:35] <Megget> I don't know, hope I figure it out. Thank's anyway!
[18:35] <Mergitur> when I try to install kdm-kde4 I get an error (dpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure). Entire thing can be found at http://pastebin.com/d4f21ce34
[18:35] <iceEra> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40
[18:36] <iceEra> there you have a good site for Themes and stuff trillis
[18:36] <trillis> I just don't know how to install it.
[18:36] <iceEra> :p
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> Mergitur: don't worry about it... kde4 still works
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> I get the same error
[18:37] <harmental> hey guys...where does firefox store its bookmarks in kubuntu?
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> harmental: ~/.mozilla somwhere
[18:38] <barberan> hello
[18:38] <nosrednaekim> hey barberan
[18:38] <barberan> Could you advice a smallest ftp server under kununtu ?
[18:38] <stdin> Mergitur: you don't need kdm-kde4
[18:38] <llutz> barberan: vsftpd
[18:38] <stdin> !ftpd
[18:39] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[18:39] <nosrednaekim> barberan: I think kubuntu comes with a ftp server, dosn't it?
[18:39] <barberan> is it easy enough?
[18:39] <stdin> nosrednaekim: no, it has a small http server with the public file server applet though
[18:39] <iceEra> what is the best program to use for downloading mp3 and stuff?
[18:39] <barberan> probably i must write it by my self)
[18:39] <NickPresta> barberan, proftpd is great and it has a GUI to configure, I believe (gproftp or something).
[18:40] <stdin> iceEra: the browser you legally bought it with
[18:40] <trillis> I downloaded a theme... Now what do I do?
[18:40] <nosrednaekim> trillis: go into the theme manager and select "open theme"
[18:41] <trillis> Wheres the theme manager?
[18:41] <Radi01> oi
[18:41] <nosrednaekim> system settings->appearance
[18:41] <Radi01> appearance
[18:42] <iceEra> trillis,
[18:42] <trillis> Import scheme?
[18:42] <iceEra> look in Personal message
[18:42] <trillis> Yeah?
[18:42] <iceEra> nooo
[18:42] <trillis> I don't see a pm..
[18:43] <Radi01> its 13:43/pm
[18:44] <SoulChild> If i enter "grub" and type ("setup (hd0)") i get "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition" !!!
[18:44] <stdin> trillis: try closing system settings, press Alt-F2 and type in "kcontrol" then go to "Appearance & Themes" > "Theme Manager"
[18:45] <Radi01> trillis register your nic to pvt
[18:45] <trillis> I just did.
[18:45] <Radi01> brb
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> SoulChild: shouldn't that be "setup (hd0,1)" if it wants a partition?
[18:46] <stdin> you should do "root hd0,0" or similar first
[18:47] <SoulChild> nosrednaekim: no i want to install do MBA
[18:47] <SoulChild> stdin: i did
[18:48] <stdin> SoulChild: try just " grub-install "(hd0)" " from the bash command line
[18:48] <iceEra> what is the best program to use for downloading mp3 and stuff?
[18:49] <barberan> wget
[18:49] <barberan> )
[18:49] <trillis> Is a .desktop a theme file?
[18:49] <rothchild> how do I recompile ffmpeg to include amr support? I have the files for ffmpeg and 3gp but am not sure about the process from here
[18:50] <iceEra> dont you have a .sh file?
[18:51] <referi> привет всем
[18:51] <stdin> !ru
[18:51] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[18:51] <referi> здравствуйте убунтяне
[18:51] <referi> !ru
[18:51] <Hamra> is the version upgrade button in gutsy still the same bug? i havent seen it for some while
[18:52] <trillis> I thought my eyes broke when I saw the russian text...
[18:52] <referi> where is Russian users ?
[18:52] <Stilo> is there a german channel for kubuntu?
[18:52] <stdin> referi: /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:52] <iceEra> Kubuntu.ru?
[18:52] <referi> thanks
[18:52] <stdin> !de | Stilo
[18:52] <ubotu> Stilo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:52] <Stilo> thanks
[18:52] <Paddy_EIRE> besides it being blasphemy is there any negative reasons why not to run gnome apps in kde
[18:53] <Paddy_EIRE> e.g. evolution
[18:53] <stdin> they takes slightly longer to load at first
[18:53] <bfrog> do I just apt-get install emerald and it'll work?
[18:53] <bfrog> !emerald
[18:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:58] <referi> sudo apt-get install emerald
[19:01] <referi> !ubuntu
[19:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[19:04] <hannes``> !de
[19:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:05] <Jabapyth> how do i desable the default middle click behavior?
[19:06] <hannes``> i have problems with my knetwork manager.. there is no more list wich shows me the available wlan networks when i click on the icon
[19:06] <trillis> I take it I can't just download a theme, then extract the files, go to the theme manager and then install new theme, and expect there to be a file in there that will allow me install the theme easily... So... What will I have to do?
[19:06] <hannes``> Also i cant connect to my home network.. can anybody help me?
[19:08] <xbehave> im using konversation how do i hide join/parts
[19:11] <eduard> dvd
[19:12] <trillis> !themes
[19:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:12] <eduardo> en español cual era?
[19:12] <trillis> spanish
[19:12] <trillis> !spanish
[19:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:13] <eduardo> gracias
[19:13] <trillis> no prob heheh
[19:14] <referi> !russia
[19:14] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[19:14] <referi> !mevdev
[19:14] <referi> !ьумвум
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mevdev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:15] <referi> !Stalin
[19:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stalin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:15] <referi> !samba
[19:15] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[19:18] <trillis> arg... How do I make my themes available to select in theme manager?
[19:21] <LjL> xbehave: settings / configure konversation / general / chat windows / hide joins and parts
[19:21] <LjL> behavior not general
[19:23] <xbehave> thx
[19:24] <[ifr0g]> !cnr
[19:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:25] <flake> in kde, where can i find trackerd to disable it
[19:30] <referi> how many peoples around you use windows and how many of them do you turn on true linux way ?
[19:31] <jhutchins> referi: Only the people who can actually benefit from it.
[19:33] <jhutchins> trillis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[19:35] <trillis> I'm retarded.
[19:36] <trillis> I kept downloaidng KDM skins...
[19:36] <trillis> Not KDE.
[19:42] <skyfalcon866> do i need kde 3.5.8 to run kde 4
[19:43] <joey722> how can i configure hotmail and gmail with kontact?
[19:43] <drarem> ok I did a sudo apt-get remove trackerd, but it still shows in TOP and guess where.. at the top of the list
[19:44] <drarem> I tried kill all and kill, doesn't get rid of it
[19:44] <drarem> wth man???
[19:44] <drarem> I did log off but didn't reboot
[19:45] <jhutchins> drarem: what level kill signal did you send it?
[19:45] <drarem> sudo kill 6246
[19:45] <jhutchins> drarem: You've uninstalled the package, but the program is still loaded in memory and running.
[19:45] <jhutchins> drarem: k, try sudo kill -15 6246
[19:47] <drarem> nope
[19:47] <drarem> thinking I need to reboot
[19:47] <drarem> 103% cpu
[19:48] <jhutchins> drarem: ok, last resort is sudo kill -9 6246
[19:48] <drarem> it's dead, thanks
[19:51] <ns8> en español
[19:51] <ns8> spanish please
[19:52] <scooter_> how can i fix a broken arts file?
[19:52] <ns8> wey
[19:52] <ns8> i need help
[19:52] <ns8> but i donnt speack english
[19:53] <ns8> en español
[19:53] <ubuntu_> Hello?
[19:53] <referi> do you now the hot key to kill the most usage cpu process ?
[19:53] <ubuntu_> Woot.
[19:53] <ns8> donde tengo que ir
[19:53] <GradeFPoultry> I just booted in Kubuntu.
[19:54] <GradeFPoultry> Anyone ever actually talk in these ?
[19:54] <GradeFPoultry> ><
[19:54] <nado> lol
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <nado> hi guis
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:54] <GradeFPoultry> CALLETE
[19:54] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <scooter_> que lastimas
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> en español
[19:55] <ns8> me calle
[19:55] <ns8> pero donde en español hoijo
[19:55] <nado> kick plz?
[19:55] <ns8> PLJKRT
[19:55] <ns8> lo q sea
[19:55] <ns8> pero enespañol
[19:55] <Chousuke_> eh
[19:55] <Stilo> !de
[19:55] <GradeFPoultry> So I'm new to IRC's and Linux. So I have no idea what I'm doing.
[19:55] <Chousuke_> !es :p
[19:55] <GradeFPoultry> Fun!
[19:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es :p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:55] <nado> could anybody help me? i can't get licq to work
[19:55] <Chousuke_> !es
[19:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:56] <scooter_> join the club poultry
[19:56] <GradeFPoultry> Yay.
[19:56] <GradeFPoultry> Is this the only server I can join on Kubuntu?
[19:56] <scooter_> i think so
[19:56] <GradeFPoultry> ...bummer.
[19:56] <nado> !licq
[19:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about licq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:56] <scooter_> yea
[19:56] <scooter_> cuz nobody here knows how to help me
[19:56] <ns8> gracias
[19:56] <GradeFPoultry> Heh.
[19:57] <GradeFPoultry> My Kopete keeps crashing when I try to connect to MSN.
[19:57] <scooter_> can someone help me fix my "broken" arts file?
[19:57] <trillis> !themes
[19:57] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:57] <scooter_> i cant do n e thing with apt
[19:57] <nado> scooter_: what do u mean?
[19:57] <scooter_> in konsole
[19:57] <jhutchins> GradeFPoultry: There are kubuntu channels on other networks, but freenode's the biggest.
[19:57] <scooter_> the apt command doesnt work and it says i have something wrong with my "arts" file
[19:58] <scooter_> when i open adept it says my arts file is "broken"
[19:58] <jhutchins> GradeFPoultry: You might try pidgin instead of kopete.
[19:58] <GradeFPoultry> Oh.
[19:58] <GradeFPoultry> Why's that?
[19:58] <nado> hmm sorry never heard of that kind of error
[19:58] <GradeFPoultry> I've used pidgin before on XP.
[19:58] <GradeFPoultry> Nevermind.
[19:58] <jhutchins> !aptfix | scooter_
[19:58] <ubotu> scooter_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:59] <jhutchins> GradeFPoultry: Might be easier is all.
[19:59] <GradeFPoultry> Okay.
[19:59] <nado> so nobody in here knows why my licq won't start?
[19:59] <jhutchins> GradeFPoultry: Working out why msn and any given chat client aren't working on a given day...
[19:59] <skyfalcon866> is kde simple
[20:00] <jhutchins> nado: Have you tried starting it in a console and seeing what errors it reports?
[20:00] <scooter_> "errors were encountered while processng arts"
[20:00] <nado> jhutchins: nope, mom plz
[20:00] <nado> err....
[20:00] <jhutchins> scooter_: you might need to remove the arts package and restart it.
[20:00] <nado> $ licq
[20:00] <jhutchins> scooter_: er, reinstall.
[20:00] <nado> 21:00:14: [WRN] IniFile: Warnung, Schlüsselwort wurde nicht gefunden.
[20:00] <scooter_> ok how do i do that
[20:00] <nado>                 Datei         = /home/nado/.licq//licq.conf
[20:00] <nado>                 Abschnitt     = [licq]
[20:00] <nado>                 Schlüsselwort = "Version"
[20:00] <nado> 21:00:14: [ERR] IniFile: Warning, I/O read error.
[20:00] <nado>                 File  = /home/nado/.licq//owner.uin
[20:00] <nado>                 Error = No such file or directory
[20:00] <nado> 21:00:14: [ERR] Upgrade failed. Please save your licq directory and
[20:00] <nado>                 report this as a bug.
[20:01] <jhutchins> !paste
[20:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:01] <scooter_> its not letting me do anything in konsole
[20:02] <nado> thx ;)
[20:02] <jhutchins> "Schlüsselwort"! I love german.
[20:02] <Kachna> hi,what's the easiest(fastest to set-up) ftp server available? :P
[20:02] <nado> katchna: proftpd
[20:02] <jhutchins> Kachna: Standard warning: running an FTP server is the best way to get hacked, even if you know what you're doing.
[20:03] <jhutchins> Kachna: proftpd or vsftpd
[20:03] <Kachna> nado: thx,will try
[20:03] <nado> Kachna: make sure to install gproftpd plugin
[20:03] <Kachna> jhutchins: well,i need it just for a while...:-)
[20:03] <nado> its the gui
[20:03] <jhutchins> Kachna: better to use scp if you can.
[20:03] <GradeFPoultry> Well guys.
[20:03] <GradeFPoultry> I'm about to install Kubuntu.
[20:03] <GradeFPoultry> Wish me luck.
[20:04] <GradeFPoultry> Hehe.
[20:04] <jhutchins> scooter_: Did you try unlocking the apt database as ubotu told you to do?
[20:04] <blackflag> !openca
[20:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openca - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:04] <Kachna> jhutchins: yep,i use scp usually,but now i want one guy to upload some stuff to me,so i think ftp is the easiest way for both :-)
[20:05] <nado> so jhutchins u know something about my licq problem?
[20:05] <Kachna> thanks a lot guys ;)
[20:05] <jhutchins> nado: Looks like what it says it is, a bug.
[20:05] <jhutchins> nado: Bad configuration file.  You could try moving/renaming it and starting with a blank one.
[20:05] <nado> ok will try that
[20:05] <nado> thx
[20:05] <jhutchins> !info licq
[20:05] <ubotu> licq: ICQ client (base files). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.4-2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[20:06] <jhutchins> nado: There are other clients.
[20:06] <nado> jhutchins: but i like this one ;)
[20:06] <nado> kopete i.e. sucks imo
[20:07] <GradeFPoultry> Why?
[20:07] <nado> don't really know
[20:08] <nado> i just don't like the handling
[20:10] <nado> jhutchins: what client do you use?
[20:10] <jhutchins> pidgin when i use one, konversation for IRC.
[20:10] <GradeFPoultry> I'm off guys.
[20:15] <nado> aight i'm off, cya
[20:15] <pwolanin> anyone have advice for this scenario:  I did a 7.04 to 7.10 Ubuntu upgrade, and then essentialy moved over to Kubuntu by installing KDE with apt-get
[20:15] <pwolanin> the problem is that now when logged in as the admin user, many of the admin function are inaccessible
[20:16] <pwolanin> for example - try to use the GUI to change the video setup
[20:16] <sossio> ciao a tutti
[20:17] <BluesKaj> !it | sossio
[20:17] <ubotu> sossio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:17] <sossio> ciao a tutti
[20:18] <BluesKaj> pwolanin, try installing kubuntu-desktop
[20:19] <michael_> hi all
[20:19] <BluesKaj> !hi | michael_
[20:19] <ubotu> michael_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:19] <michael_> thank you thank you
[20:19] <michael_> I think I have set everything up but my sound
[20:20] <michael_> think anyone here can help?I have sound blaster
[20:20] <pwolanin> BluesKaj: that's what I did install - so aftrer disabling the Gnmoe login screen, I see the kubuntu login screen, menus, etc.
[20:20] <machrider> hey guys, i just booted up a 7.10 kubuntu CD, X starts, but then a window appears saying it can't start kstartupconfig
[20:21] <machrider> if i try to run kstartupconfig myself, i get a missing symbol from a Qt library
[20:21] <machrider> anyone seen this?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> michael_,,try this:  k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[20:21] <michael_> I get sound, but coupled with major static
[20:21] <michael_> ok
[20:23] <michael_> ok cool, now to find some sound to est    :o)
[20:23] <BluesKaj> pwolanin, were you previously setup to autologin your PW with Gnome ?
[20:23] <pwolanin> BluesKaj: no - I had the gnome face-choose login screen
[20:23] <machrider> i don't understand how the kubuntu CD could not work out of the box
[20:24] <machrider> maybe i'll just go get ubuntu, and install kde desktop myself
[20:24] <michael_> still get staic
[20:24] <michael_> static
[20:24] <joey722> is there a way to configure hotmail with kontact??
[20:25] <BluesKaj> michael_, open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 (if applicable) are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply
[20:25] <michael_> ok
[20:26] <machrider> i figured.  no help here.
[20:28] <BluesKaj> joey722, I think you have to configure that in hotmail itself , to send email to kmail inbox...I don't use hotmail but it works with gmail
[20:28] <TimS> Can Krita open PSDs
[20:31] <michael_> ahh, I thought that one was going to work, but still havvvv static
[20:32] <chx> pwolanin: hi
[20:33] <pwolanin> chx: hey!
[20:33] <pwolanin> chx: I took your advice and put kubuntu on - though some functionality is broke - I figured better to ask here than bother you
[20:34] <chx> ah
[20:35] <BluesKaj> michael_, find your soundcard : cat /proc/asound/cards , then set it as default : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[20:36] <michael_> ok
[20:38] <michael_> with the "" ?  Sorry for the dumb question
[20:38] <osman47> !de
[20:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:39] <BluesKaj> michael_, "name of soundcard" ? yes
[20:39] <michael_> I get this message:;;     Please note that you are attempting to run asoundconf as a privileged superuser, which may have unintended consequences.
[20:40] <michael_> then it takes me to the prompt
[20:40] <michael_> did it do it?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> michael_, are you the only user ?
[20:40] <michael_> yes
[20:41] <BluesKaj> that should set the default ok
[20:41] <michael_> I still have static
[20:42] <michael_> un
[20:42] <michael_> oops
[20:42] <BluesKaj> michael_, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key , and bring the volume ctrls down to 70% or so , not in the red
[20:42] <michael_> unless I need to refresh the video I'm watching on google
[20:42] <michael_> ok
[20:44] <BluesKaj> michael_,you may need to relogin or even reboot ..
[20:45] <michael_> ok, I have 5.1 suround, and the levels were mostly at 100%
[20:45] <BluesKaj> too high
[20:45] <michael_> now they are at 70% or lower
[20:45] <michael_> (out of the red)
[20:45] <BluesKaj> good
[20:46] <michael_> does tone matter? its muted
[20:48] <michael_> I'll restart now
[20:52] <michael_> bummer, still have static
[20:53] <michael_> I'm getting what sounds like feed back, but my mic is muted and the mic boost is off
[20:56] <BluesKaj> michael_, turn down your "line" vol ctrl , then try a tune with whatever player you like to use ... forget the website video for a sec , that may be a a different matter
[20:57] <michael_> ahh ok
[20:58] <michael_> ok down to 25 %
[20:58] <anetahello> hello
[20:58] <michael_> (in kmixer)
[20:59] <tom|wech> HuHu zusammen
[20:59] <michael_> is alsa tuned automaticly when I use kmixer
[20:59] <michael_> ?
[20:59] <GrahamA> Hey, I've got an issue playing DVDs with Kaffeine: I'm getting this error, any ideas? Error reading NAV packet.
[20:59] <ptw> "Seems like spam could be used to actually get a message out in a very quick and widespread way about injustice, working for peace, and other political issues.  Why hasn't this happened yet? Spamming is so easy and inexpensive - seems like a perfect tool for subversion."
[20:59] <ptw> WORLD PEACE THROUGH MARIJUANA   www.havethisbook.com   very interesting FREE non-fiction, enjoy, newly updated!
[20:59] <ptw> :]
[21:00] <BluesKaj> michael_,yes
[21:00] <michael_> ok
[21:01] <michael_> static
[21:01] <BluesKaj>  ptw, this not the place advert your beliefs
[21:02] <podr0znik> hello
[21:03] <NickPresta> hello podr0znik
[21:04] <podr0znik> just curious - I tried to upgrade yesterday to 7.10 and experienced some problems, am I the only one? :)
[21:04] <BluesKaj> well michael_ , that pretty well exhaust my knowledge and ability to solve your problem ...can anyone else help with some suggestions ?
[21:05] <michael_> thank you BluesKaj
[21:06] <BluesKaj> podr0znik, FYI , I tried to use the adept upgrader but the repos connection failed 3 times , so i just did a regular clean install
[21:06] <BluesKaj> sorry I couldn't do more , michael_ :(
[21:06] <Sunriseboy> Hello everyone!
[21:07] <podr0znik> BluesKaj, during downloading/installing I had a REAL system jam, you know, such events which belong more to Windows
[21:08] <michael_> :o)
[21:08] <podr0znik> I tried later a clean install and got again errors, KDE didn't want to switch to admin mode, and sth more what I forgot already.
[21:09] <podr0znik> For now I returned to 7.04 which was good anyway ;)
[21:09] <BluesKaj> 7.04 is a fine OS , IMO :)
[21:10] <michael_> its strange, I have not been able to get my sound working since edgy. Dapper and older works fine
[21:10] <podr0znik> Now I have sth else - I put in a DVD with all documents, but it's not automatically mounting/opening. Actually I cannot even find the contents of the disc. But when I start the burning program it says "Documents (Complete Data DVD-R)"
[21:10] <BluesKaj> which soundcard michael_ ?
[21:10] <michael_> Audigy
[21:10] <podr0znik> do I have to mount it now manually (and if yes, with which command, because I'm not of the Linux command line generation)?
[21:11] <michael_> all other distros (that I have tried) work fine as well
[21:11] <kyled185> michael_, I wouldn't know how to fix it, but I had an audigy and I had to enable digital out or some other option
[21:11] <michael_> ooo, I'll try that
[21:11] <BluesKaj> michael_, maybe your audigy audio drivewrs need upgrading
[21:12] <michael_> I seen that somewhere
[21:12] <BluesKaj> err drivers
[21:12] <michael_> got ya blues   :o)
[21:13] <crimsun> michael_: download http://trilug.org/~crimsun/alsa-info.sh, run it using bash, and tell me the url.
[21:13] <kyled185> michael_, yeah, just one by one enable options and see if anything makes it works (you might have to unmute and/or adjust some volume stuff)
[21:14] <BluesKaj> kyled185, we went thru that routine
[21:14] <michael_> where do I search for bash?
[21:14] <kyled185> BluesKaj, oh ok well then I wouldn't be of any more help
[21:15] <crimsun> michael_: you have bash already.  I meant, bash /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/script
[21:15] <michael_> ha, sorry I'm a noob
[21:15] <martinw> When I first ran KDE it gave me a wizard and told me where to find the wizard again. But now I can't find the wizard again. Where is it?
[21:15] <podr0znik> michael_, welcome to the club :)
[21:16] <michael_> :)
[21:16] <BluesKaj> crimsun, pls don't assume ppl here know about bash
[21:16]  * martinw wants in to the club two.
[21:17] <crimsun> BluesKaj: (sure, that's why I mentioned it.  It'll fail utterly with dash.)
[21:17] <michael_> I cant find bash in my menu
[21:18] <crimsun> michael_: use a Konsole :)
[21:18] <michael_> got ya
[21:18] <crimsun> michael_: where did you save the script?  On your Desktop?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> michael_, run it in the terminal by cd to the downloaded script
[21:18] <michael_> hmmm, there wasnot script
[21:19] <michael_> when I clicked on the link it wanted a program picked from a list to run something
[21:19] <crimsun> likely Kate/editor?
[21:19] <crimsun> instead of choosing that option, just choose to save it.
[21:20] <BluesKaj> crimsun, what's the script do ?
[21:20] <michael_> ok
[21:20] <crimsun> BluesKaj: grabs /proc/asound/* info and amixer output
[21:22] <michael_> ok got it
[21:23] <michael_> kates reads it
[21:23] <crimsun> all right, save it onto your Desktop.
[21:23] <michael_> CHANGELOG="http://bulletproof.servebeer.com/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.changelog"
[21:23] <michael_> what is that all about?
[21:25] <michael_> its saved to the desktop
[21:29] <michael_> hello?
[21:30] <crimsun> michael_: I gave you the command above to run it.
[21:30] <crimsun> michael_: see 15 minutes ago in scrollback
[21:30] <michael_> i did
[21:31] <michael_> I saved the script
[21:31] <crimsun> michael_: no, I meant the command to run in Konsole
[21:31] <michael_> oh oh oh
[21:31] <crimsun> 16:15 < crimsun> michael_: you have bash already.  I meant, bash /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/script
[21:31] <michael_> sorry
[21:36] <michael_> I cant get it to work
[21:37] <michael_> its asking me what i want to open the program with
[21:37] <michael_> what do I tell it?
[21:37] <michael_> I click "run in terminal" but it wont except it
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> you are double clicking on the thing? dont.. use the shell...
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> open up a terminal, cd to where the script is at.
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> assuming its on your desktop it would be 'cd Desktop'
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> then run the script with one of the following.
[21:38] <michael_> ok
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> ./scriptname     OR
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> bash ./scriptname
[21:38] <vsudilov> sh scriptname
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> thats a 3rd way.  :)
[21:38] <michael_> permission denied
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> to which one? all 3 ways?
[21:39] <michael_> (I dragged and dropped)
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> drag and dropped what where?
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> what is it you are even trying to run anyway?
[21:39] <vladdracus> hey all, I'm new to kubuntu, a friend recommended installing chkrootkit and rkhunter. I'm getting some worrying warning messages when I rana check in rkhunter. namely warnings for "checking for enabled xinetd services" "checking to see  if ssh root access is allowed "/dev for suspicious file types" and "hidden files and directories" chkrootkit reveals nothing but not sure what to make of those messages in rkhunter, anyone have an idea?
[21:39] <michael_> I saved a script on desktop
[21:40] <BluesKaj> michael_, right click the script and 'cut ' and then paste it in your "Home Folder"
[21:40] <PeterPan_> good fire with comprehensive gui and user friendly?
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[21:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[21:41] <michael_> ok done
[21:41] <michael_> ma, I feel like a retard
[21:41] <michael_> man
[21:41] <michael_> lol
[21:41] <vladdracus> same here micheal!
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> Think, act, learn. :)
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> repeat..
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> The Zen of Linux.
[21:41] <michael_> think act learn
[21:42] <michael_> I need to loose the Windows mentality
[21:42] <vsudilov> you are more or less in charge of what your OS does, not microsoft ;)
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> Yep. Windows teaches many bad habbits... and hids info that people should know about.
[21:43] <vladdracus> anyone advice me on the warnings I posted above that I'm getting above in rkhunter?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> michael_, then right click it and choose properties , copy the whole filename , then open a terminal type cd and paste the file name after a space and hit enter
[21:43] <vladdracus> *advise*
[21:43] <michael_> ok
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> vladdracus ubuntu dosent use  xinetd by defatult as far as i know.
[21:44] <vsudilov> vladdracus what are those programs meant to do?
[21:44] <vladdracus> Dr Willis..dont recall installing it..dont even know what it does
[21:44] <PeterPan_> Dr_Willis:  i need a gui for iptable
[21:44] <Radi01> firestarter
[21:44] <vsudilov> Guarddog
[21:44] <vladdracus> rkhunter and chkroot check for vulnerabilities and trojans on your box
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> Do you have a reason to think you have been trojaned?
[21:45] <vladdracus> Dr, I'm, using the firestarter
[21:45] <vsudilov> hmmm you don't really need antivirus on a linux machine...just don't download random scripts that you dont know what they are
[21:45] <PeterPan_> Radi01:  i have firestarter installed. but its not asking my to allow or disallow the apps.....................
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> If this is a new install - i would gues s that the warnings are just being over-protective-cautious.
[21:45] <vladdracus> Dr, well I have a "friend" hwo I'm starting to get suspicious of. maybe I'm being paranoid but he really knows a lot about linux and I dont so...
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ you expecting the firewall to pop up and ask - like windows does? Not sure any of the firewalling tools for linux do that.
[21:45] <michael_> the file name is just script
[21:46] <vladdracus> ..just being cautious
[21:46] <michael_> should there be a .xx
[21:46] <PeterPan_> Dr_Willis: then what does it do
[21:46] <vsudilov> vladdracus : if he doesn't have your password, he can't really do much
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ it configures the iptables rules. plain and simple.   Windows firewalling  - is more of a 'personal' firewall  i guess you can say.
[21:46] <michael_> its telling me bad file name
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ i dont een worry about firewalls under linux. :) of coruse my router blocks most garbage
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> michael_ you did make the script excecutable with 'chmod +x scriptname' ?
[21:47] <vladdracus> vsudilov, good...he is a good friend but maybe I'm being too cautious
[21:47] <michael_> sorry, it said no such directory
[21:47] <PeterPan_> Dr_Willis: will it auto block suspercious apps or a hacker. portscaning etc
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> michael_ you did a typo or somthing basic wrong is my guess.
[21:47] <michael_> ha, I have no idea what that is
[21:47] <BluesKaj> ok michael_ sorry try this : type ./alsa-info.sh
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ mot really. :) unless you have the proper rules set up
[21:48] <michael_> lol, you guys rock
[21:48] <michael_> you just oooz with patience
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ it a tool to let you set up the rules  you want.
[21:48] <PeterPan_> Dr_Willis: how to do that. how to block an app . eg. firefox
[21:49] <vladdracus> thanks for the help guys
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> !info lokkit
[21:49] <ubotu> lokkit: basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.22-7.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 792 kB
[21:49] <Dodger73> hi all... i thought i'd ask here about the infamous 'i ain't got DMA with gutsy' problem - which I have; anyone have any pointers for me? :)
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ no idea on that. ive never needed to block a specific app. I normally block the ports and bad packets of attackers and so on.
[21:50] <Dodger73> 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda' only yields 'HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted for me'
[21:50] <michael_> BluesKaj: nothing
[21:51] <PeterPan_> Dr_Willis: well how to do that then
[21:51] <crimsun> run it with debug and no-upload
[21:51] <Dodger73> and i can't seem to find any actual solution for that
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ http://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/manual2/index.html    for guarddog and for firestarter ---> http://www.debianadmin.com/secure-ubuntu-desktop-using-firestarter-firewall.html
[21:52] <BluesKaj> michael_, right click on the script choose properties , permissions tab make executable (x)
[21:52] <PeterPan_> Dr_Willis: thanks
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Dodger73 are  you even srue that dma is disabled? last i looked into the dma issues.. the change to the libata library broke (sort of) the reporting  and settings by hdparm
[21:53] <michael_> k
[21:53] <BluesKaj> michael_, then ./alsa-info.sh in the terminal
[21:53] <Dodger73> Dr_Willis: i'm pretty sure it is, as my hard drive is dog slow - it worked fine in feisty, but since upgrading to gutsy i get about 5MB/s
[21:53] <Dodger73> and, of course, hdparm -d /dev/hda tells me it's off ;)
[21:54] <joey722> i cant install apache fop(kubuntu gutsy) using apt-get while a friend of me (debian) can do it.... please help
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> !apache
[21:54] <michael_> ok
[21:54] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> joey722 its apache2 I think for the package name
[21:54] <Dodger73> but mainly the performance tells me it's not turned on
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> !find apache
[21:54] <ubotu> Found: apache2, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 120 others)
[21:55] <purpleposeidon> joey722: sudo apt-get install apache2
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> Dodger73 cant really help ya much. Ive not experienced the issue. be intereesting to test with hdparm -Tt /dev/whatever from your install.. and from various live cd's
[21:55] <michael_> michael@Xavier:~$ ./alsa-info.sh
[21:55] <michael_> bash: ./alsa-info.sh: No such file or directory
[21:56] <Dodger73> Timing cached reads:   1174 MB in  2.00 seconds = 587.09 MB/sec and
[21:56] <Dodger73> Timing cached reads:   1174 MB in  2.00 seconds = 587.09 MB/sec
[21:56] <Dodger73> argh sorry
[21:56] <Dodger73> ... and Timing buffered disk reads:   18 MB in  3.33 seconds =   5.40 MB/sec is what i get, which is pretty abysmal
[21:57] <BluesKaj> michael_, did you move the script to your 'Home folder' , cuz that's where michael@Xavier is looking for it
[21:57] <joey722> purpleposeidon : i'm looking for install fop (to generate pdf) by using apt-get install fop ... it dosen't work.... but my friend (in debien) did....
[21:57] <purpleposeidon> joey722: Do apt-cache search PACKAGENAME to find programs
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> !find fop
[21:58] <ubotu> Found: r-cran-foptions, xmms-infopipe
[21:58] <michael_> yes
[21:58] <michael_> dolphin has Home highlighted
[21:58] <michael_> (using Gabby)
[21:59] <michael_> 7.10
[22:00]  * Dr_Willis thinks  michael_ needs to start over from the begining.. Im not sure whats going on. :)
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> If i download a script to my Desktop. I would do the following to run it..
[22:01] <BluesKaj> michael_, open system menu/home folder
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> cd Desktop               Then    chmod +x script name             then   ./scriptname
[22:01] <vsudilov> (in the terminal)
[22:02] <vsudilov> (ie, Konsole if you are use Kubuntu)
[22:02] <michael_> I get heavy static when any sound played mp3/wav/video on google
[22:02] <michael_> its open
[22:03] <BluesKaj> michael_, did you try to play a tune from you hard drive like i suggested eariler
[22:03] <michael_> yes
[22:03] <BluesKaj> ok
[22:03] <michael_> static still
[22:03] <sivananda> Greets everyone. Has anybody managed to get the ProjectM visualizer working with Amarok in Gutsy?
[22:04] <Radi01> prijecy M ?
[22:04] <Radi01> project
[22:05] <michael_> I'm in home folder
[22:05] <sivananda> Radi01: yea it's basically an open source rewrite of Milkdrop
[22:05] <Radi01> oh  ok
[22:05] <vsudilov> Hey anyone know of a script out there that does the following: Checks external IP address periodically, if its different from your old IP (ie it has changed), send an email to some email address with the new IP address
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> vsudilov ages ago ive seen such scripts. Youmay want to check out 'dynamic dns scripts'  under google  or dyndns scripts.
[22:07] <vsudilov> ty
[22:08] <vzduch> "if you are use Kubuntu".. sounds a bit like "All your base are belong to us".. *gg*
[22:08] <michael_> 209.7 gig free
[22:08] <PeterPan_> does any one know a gui to iptabes firewall that auto asks for each connection and app to permit or not. and then makes that rule for future. ? and does not allow any other connection or app unless permited.?
[22:09] <sstchur> I can't seem to apt-get install anything these days -- I keep getting errors regarding kde-icons-oxygen and kdebase-runtime-data.  Anyone know what that is about?
[22:09] <twylight> guys
[22:09] <twylight> what was that doom clone with the doom 2 content?
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan_ never seen such a thing under linux. given the security methods linux uses. Id be suprised if such an app exists.   Good luck googling for that. :)  let us know what you find.
[22:09] <vsudilov> PeterPan, are you thinking of LittleSnitch for Mac OSX?
[22:10] <kyled185> sstchur, did you try to install KDE 4 stuff?
[22:10] <sstchur> kyled185: yes
[22:10] <PeterPan_> k
[22:10] <sstchur> kyled185: I got KDE4 running and it worked okay, but I'm not using it at the moment
[22:11] <sstchur> kyled185: I set it up to be an option to select it when I log in
[22:11] <michael_> ok, I need a break guys
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> Linux firewall uses ports rather than executables to allow or deny connections. So if you allow Epiphany Firefox will be able to go as well since they both run on the same port.
[22:11] <PeterPan_> vsudilov:  i use kubuntu
[22:11] <michael_> thank you for your help
[22:11] <michael_> I will return after a while
[22:11] <kyled185> sstchur, I had a similar problem when I tried to update it to the RC
[22:11] <vsudilov> PetePan_ Yeah I figure, but it sounds 100% like an application for Mac OSX called LittleSnitch
[22:12] <michael_> thank you for your help
[22:12] <vsudilov> ...Which is really really cool
[22:12] <sstchur> kyled185: what is the solution?  do you know?
[22:12] <PeterPan> vsudilov:  or most apps of windows do this
[22:12] <kyled185> sstchur, you've gotta remove the beta stuff, I used aptitude, but it was a while ago and I can't quite remember what the solution was
[22:13] <PeterPan> vsudilov:  right?
[22:13] <vsudilov> PeterPan_ I'm not up to date with whats going on with windows...
[22:14] <kyled185> sstchur, for example it said that kde-oxygen was trying to modify a file, but $somekde4package was using it
[22:14] <kyled185> sstchur, so I removed that $somekde4package
[22:14] <PeterPan> k
[22:15] <kyled185> sstchur, actually, I haven't rebooted yet so ymmv
[22:16] <Radi01> sudo dpkg --configure -a      worked for me.
[22:17] <sstchur> kyled185: ymmv?
[22:17] <sivananda> Anyone here at all who's familiar with the ProjectM music visualizer?
[22:17] <kyled185> your mileage may vary
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan doing some googling on this. and as far as i can tell iptables just blocks based on ports. so if you want to block MSN which uses port 1863 - a iptales entry to blockit would be -->  /sbin/iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -s $IP -p tcp --dport 1863 -j REJECT
[22:18] <kyled185> - it worked for me no guarantees it'll work for you
[22:19] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, could you explain what the purpose of chmod +x filename is, previous to the install ?
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan http://www.linuxtopia.org/Linux_Firewall_iptables/x499.html has a lot of really hard core info on the filtering.
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj it makjes the thing executable
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> othereise you cant run it witn ./whatever
[22:20] <BluesKaj> ok, thx , so it's the same choosing the make exectable box in properties
[22:20] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis: where can i get one.  i dont wana add a deny rule for each manualy. i want it to ask when observing any active connection or request.................
[22:20] <BluesKaj> err the same as
[22:22] <PeterPan> thx
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan dont think thats going to happen.  reading that site now and i see iptables can filter based on owner. but i see no thing on a specific executable name.
[22:22] <PeterPan> k
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> and as for 'asking' that opens up a whole other set of  problems that could spring up. :)
[22:23] <sivananda> PeterPan: It sounds like you're looking for something that works similar to zonealarm on windoze. Nothin' like that in linux AFAIK
[22:24] <BluesKaj> !antivirus
[22:24] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[22:24] <BluesKaj> !linuxvirus
[22:24] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[22:24] <PeterPan> sivananda: yes
[22:25] <sstchur> how do i remove kde4?
[22:25] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis: sivananda then how does a firewall work . eg. a hacker comes and attack or allowed ports. how will i know some thing ingenuine is happening. or a malicous app (very rare) uses the allowed port 80 ?
[22:25] <vzduch> sstchur: how did you install it?
[22:25] <sstchur> vzduch: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[22:25] <vzduch> PeterPan: that's what log files are for
[22:25] <sstchur> vzduch: but trying to run apt-get remove [ kde packages ] doesn't seem to work
[22:26] <PeterPan> vzduch:  who will tel me to be alert and watch log files
[22:26] <sstchur> vzduch: it complains about "unmet dependencies"  -- I guess I need some way to revert back
[22:26] <sstchur> vzduch: I actually can't apt-get install or remove anything right now -- everything fails
[22:27] <vzduch> !aptfix | sstchur
[22:27] <ubotu> sstchur: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan  iptables blocks specific data based on specific rules..  You set up rules to block what you consider bad. its  only windows and its 'firewall' that has peole thinking its sdesigned to block malicious apps.  ITS actually designed to stop Malicious packets.
[22:27] <sivananda> PeterPan: as I understand it, linux generally adopts a philosophy that is diametrically opposite of windoze. Whereas windoze has an 'every port open' approach, and you must choose to close individual ones, linux is the opposite. It has an 'everything closed' approach, and you must choose what you want open...
[22:28] <sstchur> vzduch: I don't think that's the issue exactly.  The commands run, but if I try to install anything, it complains about unmet dependencies no matter what
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan the proper ip tables rules can detect a port flood or scan or other bad things and block the incoming packets.  and log them . If you set it up that way.
[22:28] <sstchur> vzduch: but i can try it
[22:28]  * Dr_Willis agrees with sivananda linux and windows do it from different 'approaches'
[22:29] <sstchur> vzduch: it tells me to run "apt-get -f install", but when I do, that fails too
[22:29] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis: well then how to set up proper iptable rules then?
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxtopia.org/Linux_Firewall_iptables/index.html  - has some really neat info..
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan define what you want to do.. create the proper ruleset. :)   that url has some examples.
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> in 'theory' under linux and proper security - you would have the firewall all set up befor the pc ever gets connected to the internet.
[22:30] <vzduch> sstchur: gimme your sources.list in a pastebin
[22:31] <sivananda> PeterPan: Altho' it doesn't do anything 'automagically', I would have to say that about the friendliest GUI app i've found for configuring iptables is called Guarddog. It should be available in the repositories...
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> Normally the rules would be to block everything.. allow in/out the ports you need.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> Lokkit, an application that walks you through a few simple steps and configures a basic firewall for you. Lokkit is dead easy to use, and requires very little understanding of firewalls to set up, but it provides few options, and it's not a good choice if you want to set up a complex firewall.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> !info lokkit
[22:33] <ubotu> lokkit: basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.50.22-7.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 125 kB, installed size 792 kB
[22:34] <sivananda> !info guarddog
[22:34] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 482 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> gotta love it whenyou mess up and make a firewall so strong that you cant do anytying :)
[22:35] <sstchur> vzduch: http://pastebin.us/?show=m3479d938
[22:36] <sivananda> lol yea...
[22:36] <PeterPan> sivananda:  thanks
[22:36] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis: thanks
[22:36] <vzduch> sstchur: nothing wrong w/ that afaics
[22:37] <Radi01> I did that with zone labs..they emailed me with a paraniod list to un do/ lol
[22:37] <vzduch> you might want to uncomment gutsy-backports
[22:37] <sivananda> something else to keep in mind, if you're behind a router (such as with a home network), then it very likely already has at least a basic firewall. I for example don't even need iptables on my machine...
[22:37] <vzduch> and if you haven't lately, try 'apt-get update'
[22:38] <sivananda> PeterPan:  np :)
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> I dont een use a firewallon the linux box's - Nothing is really attacking them. the router is blocking most garbage. and theres no real spyware/malware ever going to get on them
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> You can alwyas use the variput logging features to watch what info is going out.. if you want to see whats happening.
[22:40] <Kr4t05> Are there any ways I can clean up some of the clutter in my / partition?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> Kr4t05 what clutter?
[22:40] <Kr4t05> I've already done "sudo apt-get clean"
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> Find clutter.. delete it..:)
[22:41] <sivananda> Yep Dr_Willis. Attacks against linux machines are pretty rare (tho' not unknown). There are so many different 'flavors', and they're so highly configurable, that it's difficult to create a network virus that would propagate to any great degree...
[22:41] <Kr4t05> Dr_Willis: Er... That's a bit vague.
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> sivananda and most of the attacks are against specific  services.. so if its not running.
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> Kr4t05 so was your question. :)
[22:42] <sivananda> Dr_Willis: indeed
[22:42] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> Kr4t05 heck i found 14+gb in my users  .Trash and  !/.local/share/Trash the other day
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> that was 1/2 my Hard drive on the laptop! :)
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> aparently wine puts deletes things in .local/share/trash
[22:43] <Kr4t05> That's helpful.
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> also watch for removeable drives the .Trash  dirs get overlooked.
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> had a mc card thta was full.. even tho it was empty. :)
[22:44] <Radi01> wow
[22:44] <Kr4t05> Yeah, I always hard delete everything on my MP3 player.
[22:45] <Kr4t05> What about /tmp/?
[22:45] <mot_> how do i upgrade to the latest kernel?
[22:45] <scrubb2000> Video playback of AVIs and MKVs is choppy on my machine, could someone help me figure out how to correct it?  Thanks.
[22:45] <mot_> what's the kubuntu meta package for the newest kernel revision? :O
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed tmp getting too full.
[22:45] <Kr4t05> scrubb2000: Compiz-Fusion?
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> dosent /tmp get flused on each boot up?
[22:45] <scrubb2000> kr4t05: yes.
[22:46] <scrubb2000> but it's not on every file
[22:46] <Kr4t05> mot_: Generally, check backports, I don't think the very latest kernel gets put into a stable release unless it's a crucial fix.
[22:46] <mot_> ahhh
[22:46] <mot_> also, if i've configured samba in the kcontrol panel, is there any particular reason why i can't access the share over my network on other machines? the service is running...
[22:47] <Kr4t05> scrubb2000: CompizConfig-Settings-Manager -> Video Playback, see if it's checked. If it is, uncheck it, if it isn't check it.
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> mot_ enable a samba password for the users? with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'  perhaps
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> mot_ you did enable a share or 2 for them to access?
[22:47] <mot_> yea
[22:47] <mot_> i enabled a share
[22:47] <mot_> and over my wireless network, on a windows box, i typed in "//thisbox'sip/Share
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas just uncomment the homes entrys in the smba.config and smbpasswd -a MyUser
[22:47] <mot_> and it failed..
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> see if the linux box can see its own shares.
[22:48] <CubaCola> hi
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> be sure the workgroups are the same also
[22:48] <mot_> Dr_Willis, how do i do that?
[22:48] <CubaCola> amarok & konqueror get kill at start ...
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> Konqueror has a 'remote' location.  it may be smb:/ or smb:// also.
[22:49] <CubaCola> hi, by the way :)
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> places -> remote machine  (or somthing like that. Not in KDE right now)
[22:49] <mot_> yeaaaaa
[22:49] <mot_> smb://localhost/ displays my share...
[22:49] <kubuntunewbie> I have a problem.  I have been seeing the update the thing at the bottom right in the tray that there are 5 updated packages available.  but when i click on it it it tells me something is already runing and it can only do read only
[22:49] <mot_> now on a windows box if i type //thisbox'sip/ i get nothin'
[22:49] <mot_> strange.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> mot_ try the actual machine name not the ip.
[22:50] <andresj> hello, my audio is not working, it says the device is in use in amarok... how can I fix this? i remember there was a shelll command to see what processes were using a specific file, but i forgo it's name....
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> i normally browse with the Windows network -> whatever it is  Icon. :)
[22:51] <mot_> sweet it works thanks
[22:51] <kubuntunewbie> it tells me another process is using the packaging system database (prob some other adept application or apt-get aptitude) even though nothing else is runing it.  and then it asks me "Would you like to attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve the issue yourself."
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> mot_ i  DO recall someone saying that some how the 'workgroup' setting in the samba configs was getting changed/removed by some of the samba config toools. some how.
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> mot_ :) bookmark it! :0
[22:51] <mot_> nah it's cool i got it to work.
[22:51] <kubuntunewbie> anyone?
[22:52] <Radi01> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:53] <Radi01> thats what I had to do
[22:53] <PeterPan> final advice needed. which one is the best anti intrussion app .snort , fwmon , firestorm,prelude ?
[22:53] <ubuntu> Hey.
[22:53] <kubuntunewbie> WTF, would someone please help me?
[22:53] <mot_> alright
[22:54] <mot_> what's the problem?
[22:54] <posingaspopular> !aptlock
[22:54] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:54] <posingaspopular> kubuntunewbie: ^^^
[22:54] <mot_> kubuntunewbie, hit CTRL + ESC and open the KDE processes window.
[22:54] <sivananda> kubuntunewbie: I had that error the other day. I just hit Yes then restarted Adept and it worked fine...
[22:54] <mot_> look for 'adept' anything and kill the process
[22:54] <mot_> then try it again.
[22:54] <mot_> meh.
[22:54] <kubuntunewbie> sivananda: hiting yes crashed me
[22:54] <kubuntunewbie> mot_: okay i did that
[22:55] <posingaspopular> !aptlock | kubuntunewbie
[22:55] <ubotu> kubuntunewbie: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:55] <posingaspopular> that's how I fix that error every single time
[22:55] <PeterPan> how to install an rpm file
[22:55] <sivananda> kubuntunewbie: Well was worth a shot anyway. It crashed Adept when I did it, not my whole system, but as I said, I just restarted it and it was fine thereafter...
[22:56] <posingaspopular> !rpm
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> Wow - we may be getting logged in a searchable  fashion by some company.. -->  http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/02/1515247&from=rss
[22:56] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[22:56] <posingaspopular> PeterPan: ^^^
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan its BEST to not mess with installing rpms. find a debian package or uuntu package for whateverit is yu want to install.
[22:56] <Radi01> I found many public logs
[22:57] <Kr4t05> Well, right now, I'm backing up some TV shows, so I have more room in my /home/ partition.
[22:57] <GradeFPoultry> I've been trying to partition my hard drive.
[22:57] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis:  i cant find anyin package manager. how to find one for firestorm?
[22:57] <GradeFPoultry> It's a nightmare.
[22:57] <kubuntunewbie> mot_: i love u. it worked. wanna make babies with me
[22:57] <Radi01> lol
[22:57] <kubuntunewbie> okay, maybe next time.
[22:57] <podr0znik> when I enter a CD-R, it normally mounts and gives me a window "what do you want to do"
[22:57] <podr0znik> but when entering a DVD it makes some noise for some time and does nothing
[22:57] <Kr4t05> kubuntunewbie: As flattering as that suggestion may be, keep in mind that this is a "family friendly" support chat. :)
[22:58] <podr0znik> anybody any idea what's the reason of this?
[22:58] <draik> podr0znik: What type of computer do you have?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> !find firestorm
[22:58] <ubotu> Package/file firestorm does not exist in gutsy
[22:58] <GradeFPoultry> How do I connect to another IRC channel? xD
[22:59] <kubuntunewbie> Kr4t05: i understand its family friendly. what i said was hardly inappropriate.  in all due respect... lighten up ;)
[22:59] <podr0znik> draik, normal Intel Pentium thingy
[22:59] <draik> GradeFPoultry: "/j <channel name>
[22:59] <GradeFPoultry> Thanks =P
[22:59] <draik> podr0znik: Let me rephrase. What brand? Dell? HP? Compaq?...?
[22:59] <draik> GradeFPoultry: "/j <channel name>"
[22:59] <dsmith_> my kubuntu freezes after I am away from it say +30 mins, I thought it was from the screensaver but i turned that off
[22:59] <podr0znik> draik, built it myself
[22:59] <draik> Sorry, forgot to close the quote
[22:59] <draik> podr0znik: Check your mobo specs.
[22:59] <podr0znik> draik, so that's a bit of everything I guess
[23:00] <draik> check for faulty mobo drivers and work back towards the OS.
[23:00] <PeterPan> where to find deb package for firestorm ?
[23:00] <snarkster> hi is there anyway to remove all the gnome crap from kubuntu?
[23:01] <draik> The reason I ask is because my friend's Dell had the same issue. I had to clear the CMOS for it to read.
[23:01] <draik> snarkster: !purekde
[23:01] <snarkster> where do you put that?
[23:01] <draik> Whoops
[23:01] <draik> !purekde | snarkster
[23:01] <ubotu> snarkster: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[23:01] <draik> There you go
[23:01] <podr0znik> draik, hm. I only don't understand why I didn't have this problem earlier (I made the DVD's myself, in the same Kubuntu version as I have right now)
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan given that the firestorm website seems to be dead..you may want to find a different iptables monitoring tool
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> !find iptables
[23:02] <ubotu> Found: iptables, iptables-dev, arno-iptables-firewall, libiptables-ipv4-ipqueue-perl
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> !find fwmon
[23:02] <ubotu> Package/file fwmon does not exist in gutsy
[23:03] <zeldaII> i've got a question about compiz/kde desktop.  I have compiz set to give me window previews when i hover over the taskbar, but kde is having a text bubble pop up as well, that says the name of the program.  How do i get that to stop?
[23:03] <snarkster> thank you
[23:03] <draik> yw
[23:03] <snarkster> I will now install kubuntu
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> PeterPan if all else fails you could use the soruce and recompile it.
[23:04] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis:  any other place  to find deb package for firestorm and snort?
[23:04] <PeterPan> Dr_Willis: ok
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> the package managers have searching features for the packages that exist.    also theres the alternative/unofficial repos.
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> put 'apt:/' in konqueror - is my fave search tool
[23:05] <sivananda> !find snort
[23:05] <ubotu> Found: airsnort, oinkmaster, snort, snort-common, snort-common-libraries (and 4 others)
[23:05] <GradeFPoultry> Can someone answer some questions about QTParted for me?
[23:05] <ardchoille> PeterPan: apt-cache search snort
[23:06] <draik> !ask | GradeFPoultry
[23:06] <ubotu> GradeFPoultry: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:06] <GradeFPoultry> Haha.
[23:06] <bogdan> Dr_Willis: didn't know that.. but when i try searching for something it prompts me to save an HTML file :))
[23:07] <GradeFPoultry> Well, I'm running Kubuntu from a disk right now. I need to create a partition, but keep my windows data intact.
[23:07] <draik> !someone | GradeFPoultry
[23:07] <ubotu> GradeFPoultry: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:07] <GradeFPoultry> o_O
[23:07] <PeterPan> ardchoille:  it gives snort. but not firestorm. solarwolf - Collect the boxes and don't become mad
[23:07] <sivananda> !info snort | PeterPan
[23:07] <ubotu> peterpan: snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-6 (gutsy), package size 455 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[23:07] <draik> ardchoille: Hey there. How are you?
[23:07] <kiwi__> im having an issue with the adept manager, whenever i open the application, a message pops up saying im not able to change my system settings and that it needs special admin root privileges
[23:08] <draik> kiwi__: You should be able to provide your own PW and gain the rights to make necessary changes.
[23:08] <kiwi__> i do hav my own pw but whenever i open the adept it doesnt ask for it
[23:09] <ardchoille> Hi draik :)
[23:09] <draik> kiwi__: What does it ask for?
[23:09] <draik> ardchoille: I get 11 days of vacation as of December 22 :) December 22 to January 1
[23:10] <kiwi__> it doesnt ask for anything just says You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because this application needs special administrator (root) privileges. Please run it as root or through kdesu or sudo programs to be able to perform these actions
[23:11] <draik> kiwi__: Do you have a prompt for a password?
[23:11] <draik> ardchoille: Yeah Yeah Yeah
[23:11] <kiwi__> no
[23:11] <ardchoille> draik: Quite boring, tho
[23:11] <luvss> Can't get Konqueror to find any web pages. Can ping www.google.com.
[23:11] <draik> ardchoille: I get to be with my fiance for 11 days
[23:12] <draik> kiwi__: ALT+F2 "kdesu adept"
[23:13] <draik> ardchoille: Recall my ISP issue?
[23:13] <ardchoille> draik: No
[23:13] <kiwi__> draik: it said command adept not found
[23:14] <g2g591> kiwi_:try adept_manager
[23:14] <ardchoille> kiwi__: kdesu adept_manager
[23:15] <kiwi__> it opened but i got the same message saying im not able to change my system settings
[23:16] <ardchoille> kiwi__: So it prompted yo for the admin passwd?
[23:16] <sstchur> what do you do if the status in Adept Updater says "BROKEN (installed)" ?
[23:17] <kiwi__> no it did not
[23:18] <g2g591> sstchur:try right clicking and try to reinstall, but be check in the preview tab  what it will try to do
[23:19] <ardchoille> kiwi__: Are you able to install/remove things via command line?
[23:19] <GrahamA> How would I make Konqueror my default file manager? I don't like Dolphin that much.
[23:20] <LjL> !dolphin | GrahamA
[23:20] <ubotu> GrahamA: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[23:20] <ardchoille> !dolphin | GrahamA
[23:20] <kiwi__> i dont think so, i hardly use the terminal
[23:20] <g2g591> kiwi_:it seems you might be trying to install and remove things from a nonadmin account, check in system settings to see if you are in the admin group
[23:20] <sivananda> luvss: Sounds like maybe konqueror is configured to use a proxy that's not present...
[23:20] <GrahamA> Cheers
[23:20] <ardchoille> kiwi__: See if your user is in the required groups: cat /etc/group | grep adm
[23:21] <PeterPan_> http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6246/snapshot6ol9.jpg  what should i do?
[23:22] <draik_> ardchoille: Got switched from Cable to DSL.
[23:23] <luvss> sivananda: proxy tab is set to "connect to the internetdirectly"
[23:23] <draik> ardchoille: Sorry about that. Someone called and I got taken offline
[23:23] <draik> ardchoille: And that pretty much sums up the past few days with DSL
[23:23] <ardchoille> draik: lol
[23:24] <sivananda> luvss: Do you have another browser you can try?
[23:25] <draik> ardchoille: I compared the $CABLE_ISP service to this Verizon DSL and I told them this, "I had a sooped up, non-street legal Lamborghini with a life-long pass to the autobahn. Now, I got a bicycle with two flat tires, no brakes and a rusty chain. Tell me again, how is this DSL faster than Cable?"
[23:26] <ardchoille> draik: Would you like to join #draik ?
[23:26] <luvss> sivananda: default install of Kubuntu 7.10. I don't see one in the menu.
[23:26] <sivananda> draik: Just curious, did you install the filters on all your phones?
[23:26] <draik> ardchoille: I'm there
[23:26] <draik> sivananda: Yes
[23:26] <PeterPan_> http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6246/snapshot6ol9.jpg  what should i do?
[23:27] <sivananda> draik: ok just wondered. Might want to doublecheck that none have been missed. It's also possible for one to be faulty I guess. I got a bad one once with dsl
[23:30] <draik> sivananda: Only 2 phones in the house. Well, 2 that plug up. The other 2 or 3 are units which connect to a charging base; no phone line.
[23:30] <scrubb2000> Does anyone know what part of linux remembers where an application window was when it was closed?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> scrubb2000 that would be a feture of the windowmanager
[23:31] <ardchoille> scrubb2000: Lots of apps store that in the *rc file
[23:31] <scrubb2000> ardchoille: where is that located?  If an application isn't remembering where it was last time it ran, does that mean it's not storing that value at all?
[23:32] <sivananda> luvss: The first thing I would try would be to install another browser and see if I can reach any sites with it...
[23:32] <trillis> Hm...
[23:32] <ardchoille> scrubb2000: Many apps have their own *rc file as <appname>rc  in ~/.kde/share/config
[23:32] <trillis> Could anybody explain why my wireless internet cuts out at random times?
[23:33] <ardchoille> scrubb2000: If you look at some of those files, you'll see settings like width=blah
[23:33] <luvss> sivananda: Thanks for the help. I'll try that.
[23:33] <trillis> Shouldn't really say it's my internet...
[23:33] <sivananda> draik: my only other thought would be to make sure you have good connections on the line carrying the dsl into the house. How's the sound quality on the phones? Any 'scratchiness' on the line?
[23:34] <draik> sivananda: Good question. I don't know. I don't use the phone. I have my cell, which doesn't work too well in my area cuz of planes, and resort to IMs, IRCs and emails.
[23:36] <root__> hi
[23:36] <root__> I need help with my kubuntu
[23:36] <draik> !ask | root__
[23:36] <ubotu> root__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:37] <Xero> root__, it's not safe to be root.
[23:37] <sivananda> draik: I seem to recall that at one point I was having a random disconnect issue with my DSL, and it turned out that the wire from the wall jack to the DSL modem had a partially broken wire. I replaced the wire and it was fine thereafter. But if that's your problem, it could be anywhere in the wires, even potentially in the feed into the house...
[23:37] <Xero> Log in as a different user, please. You're putting your box at risk.
[23:37] <root__> my kubunut has broke down since the las update, right now I just can work i recovery mode
[23:37] <Xero> oh
[23:37] <Xero> That would explain the rootness then.
[23:37] <root__> If Ia try to run multiuser the computer freezes with the usplash
[23:38] <scooter_> whats the command for the terminal to make amorak play mp3's
[23:38] <Xero> Try running it without usplash (take off the splash parameter from GRUB/LILO/Whatever you use
[23:39] <root__> I woul like to know what makes my kubuntu crash, so I can downgrade
[23:39] <ardchoille> root__: Aren't you the one who sometimes irc's as root?
[23:39] <Xero> kernel=yourkernel-2.x.xx-XXXXXXXX ro splash
[23:39] <root__> Xero: I have done that but it down't work either
[23:39] <Xero> remove the "splash" from that line
[23:39] <sivananda> draik: I've heard reports from people about water occasionally getting into the phone lines causing such problems. That's something the phone company would have to fix of course...
[23:40] <Xero> scooter_, amarok file.mp3
[23:40] <scooter_> yea, but it amarok wont play .mp3 files
[23:40] <root__> I have more information but I haven't been able yo figure out what is crashing the computer
[23:40] <scooter_> and i need to dl the patch thing
[23:40] <Xero> scooter_, apt-get search xine mp3
[23:40] <Xero> erm
[23:40] <Xero> scooter_, apt-cache search xine mp3
[23:40] <Xero> !mp3
[23:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:40] <Xero> That.
[23:41] <scooter_> thanks
[23:41] <Xero> Sorry, haven't been here for a long time
[23:41] <root__> may be in /var/log/ I can fnd the info
[23:41] <ardchoille> root__: to be honest, if you've enebled the root account, then you've likely caused your own problems because it's easy to log in as root and eventually you're going to mess something up. I feel you should kick that "habit".
[23:41] <Xero> ardchoille, he's running in recovery mode.
[23:42] <Xero> That's why s/he's logged in as root
[23:42] <ardchoille> Xero: Ah, my bad.
[23:42] <root__> ardchoille: if I am log as root is beacouse with the last update something has messed up in my computer
[23:42] <Xero> Well, I'll brb. Going to play with a modded motorazr and PSP, and later chip an XBox (all for legal homebrew use of course)
[23:43] <root__> ardchoille: I am trying to fix it but I dont know how
[23:43] <ardchoille> root__: Ok, the system crashes during the usplash phase?
[23:44] <root__> ardchoille: yes I have disable the usplash but I still don't know how to fix the problem
[23:45] <Xero> What's the last thing it says before phail?
[23:45] <ardchoille> root__: If you take the "splash" and "quiet out of menu.lst and reboot, you should be able to see what is going on. You can then use that info to tell us or maybe even figure it out.
[23:46] <Xero> ardchoille, he already took "splash" out, and usually if they take out splash they'll take out quiet too
[23:46] <Xero> I'm just guessing though.
[23:46] <root__> ardchoille: ok, but the ifo I have is not very clear
[23:46] <Xero> Where does it hang?
[23:46] <Xero> What is the last thing that it says?
[23:46] <ardchoille> root__: You'd be surprised, some of the gurus here have helped with a minimum of info
[23:47] <root__> ardchoille: is it  posilbe to see where it hangs lookingat a log file
[23:47] <root__> ?
[23:47] <tucker> #
[23:47] <ardchoille> root__: That's an option, tail/less some of the logs in /var/log
[23:48] <muimota__> ardchoille: which one?
[23:48] <ardchoille> muimota__: I'd start with /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[23:49] <cobalt> anybody here familiar with efax-gtk and how to fax stuff from open office ?
[23:51] <muimota__> ardchoille:ok, I will try to check those files
[23:52] <cobalt> anyone?
[23:53] <jeroenvrp> gmailfs?
[23:53] <jeroenvrp> HTTP Error 400: Bad Request
[23:53] <jeroenvrp> anyone know how to fix that
[23:53] <jeroenvrp> ?
[23:57] <cobalt> jero: try mail: then your url.
[23:58] <troyfus> anyone know why k-prot keeps coming up on my sudo commands??
[23:58] <troyfus> terminal konsole and synaptic
[23:59] <mks> ummmmmmmmmmmm
[23:59] <mks> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa