[01:03] mc44: .. -.. --- -. - -. . . -.. --- -. . .-- .... . -. .. .... .- ...- . -.-- --- ..- [01:46] help [01:46] first my mouse cursor is invisible in ubuntu (wow) then some oper kicks me instead help (nice) [01:47] about as nice as is to come into an "X" channel with a nickname saying that "X" sucks. [01:47] come back tomorrow please [01:48] yeap I had no basis for beeing angry, it is normal that mouse cursors are invisible [01:49] indeed, bye [01:50] oh, you can get a refund though [01:50] google for it, see you later [01:50] I was hoping to try to solve the problem, wow this community is so helpfull [02:01] In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: merging is Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information. [02:01] merging is Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information. [02:01] !merging is Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information. [02:01] I'll remember that, Hobbsee [02:03] %register [02:13] * Pici wonders why pelo isnt in here [02:47] god [02:47] I hate elections in my country... [02:47] lots of people filled with the 11 o clock news come politically charged [02:47] and vent all in the IRC channel [03:37] How would one go about creating a channel for psubuntu on freenode? [04:16] Anyone? [04:18] First, what is it? [04:18] Second, Pricey would want me to direct you to #ubuntu-irc instead of here. [04:20] IRC channel for Ubuntu for the PS3 [04:22] ah [04:54] any staff about that want's to give me a shiny new ubuntu/member cloak ? === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [05:24] stdin: for a quarter [05:24] sorry, we don't have 25p coins in the UK ;) [05:24] nalioth: ooh can we get humorous customized plates for double that? [05:24] well, we can make it 100 quid, if you like [05:25] nah, I'll just give you a 20p coin and a 5p coin then [05:25] maybe with some fancy glueing I can make a quarter [05:25] !OP [05:25] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo! [05:25] coolbhavi called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [05:25] coolbhavi: please don't do that [05:26] what the heck was that? [05:26] jdong: a lesson. [05:26] git. [05:26] oh was he trying to get ubotu to op him? [05:26] no, he's been banned. [05:26] Hobbsee: can we not unalias op? [05:26] he was trying to get unbanned [05:27] jdong: hm? [05:27] oh, from here? heh [05:27] Hobbsee: a lot of bots out there use it (singular) as a command to give ops [05:27] Hobbsee: I mean for only the plural ops to work [05:27] seeing as there should be none of them in any ubuntu channel, this should not be a problem [05:27] coolbhavi: now, are you here about a channel emergency? [05:28] yes.. To file an abuse report [05:28] Hobbsee: looks like op is alias ops... globally... [05:28] coolbhavi: an abuse report is not a channel emergency. abuse repots can be filed at any time. [05:28] OK didnt know that [05:29] coolbhavi: abuse reports do not tend to need attention ZOMGABSOLUTELYRIGHTNOW! [05:29] OK sorry [05:29] however, now that you've called multiple people to look on with your non-emergency situation, it would probably be appreciated if you didn't keep them waiting :) [05:30] coolbhavi: yeah, everyone in here is an op to begin with , so you can just begin your report; pinging all of them signifies some extreme emergency and we usually drop what we're doing to respond ;-) [05:31] OK...... Inspite of being an ubuntu member the Indian local community flamed me up and booed me out [05:32] coolbhavi: your ubuntu membership is not a clear-pass to escape any punishment. if you are brekaing the rules, cloak or not, you will still suffer the same punishments as those without an ubuntu cloak. [05:32] Ubuntu Indian channel doesnt follow the CoC and has excessive flaming [05:33] (just a FYI) [05:33] Ok..... [05:33] however, i have not seen the channel in question, so cannot comment [05:34] But too much of flaming and singling out going on [05:35] its ubuntu-in... Go there without a cloak and discuss something you ll come to know [05:35] * Hobbsee wonders if we have any indian speakers in this room [05:36] they will treat me as a newbie [05:36] coolbhavi: do you have channel logs demonstrating such behavior so we can see the context? [05:37] and consider my contribution to the community is useless [05:37] I have the mailing list conversations [05:37] we prefer the IRC logs, coolbhavi [05:38] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (game) [05:39] * kart_ (i=kartikm@59.161.0.235) has joined #ubuntu-in [05:39] hi kart_ [05:39] coolbhavi, [05:39] who is the OP here? [05:39] and what is meant by OEM in foss? [05:39] * coolbhavi pondering about definition of OEM [05:39] * coolbhavi googling [05:39] coolbhavi, why do you need to talk with OP? [05:39] * phoenix24 has quit ("Ex-Chat") [05:39] !pastebin [05:39] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [05:39] no just asking..... [05:39] whats the meaning of OEM in foss? [05:39] coolbhavi: please use a paste service [05:40] * Hobbsee waits. [05:41] coolbhavi: have you not read the rules sufficiently to understand the concept of a pastebin? [05:41] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46533/ [05:42] thankyou. [05:42] here it is [05:42] 83 lines is *definetly* not appropriate to paste in here. [05:43] OK I just pasted the whole log as instructed [05:44] coolbhavi: what did you get your membership for, out of curiousity? [05:45] to contribute to the community ofcourse [05:46] coolbhavi: they should have banned you earlier, imo. [05:47] why? I am not expecting anything [05:48] from them [05:49] coolbhavi: you repeated questions, needlessly asked who was ops (hint, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-in list), you'd get on the indian loco CC if they thought you were good, you're irrirtating people in there... [05:49] and then throw a tantrum, saying that you're leaving, as you didn't get the position that you wanted. [05:49] I am just looking forward to contribute to the community thats it.. [05:49] from the log, it appears that youv'e done so multiple times [05:50] i m not after any position hunt [05:50] frankly, they should have banned you way earlier, until you'd learned not to be a pain in the neck. [05:51] hey I m not there in the Indian loco team frankly.. because they wont support any ideas [05:51] to improve the community [05:51] so I got myself disaffiliated [05:52] they targetted me on the mailing list for my ideas [05:52] it appears you didn't present any ideas there, either. [05:53] I have the whole 52 conversations [05:53] I will paste it... Have a patient look please [05:53] and if you pastebin it [05:53] i'm going to kick you off the entire network. [05:54] er, paste it in the channel [05:54] In the pastebin [05:57] why not just link to the mailing list? [05:57] nalioth: irc based conversations? [05:58] Hobbsee: his last words are about 52 mailing list conversations [05:59] nalioth: oh, i assumed that by "52 conversations", he meant irc conversations, not mailing list ones...as we're the irc people, not the CC. [06:00] OK leave it..... I m stepping out of that hell === vorian is now known as vorian_afk [06:01] OK thanks [06:02] none of the -in ops hang out in this circle, do they? Their names don't ring a bell at all [06:02] i've spoken to some of them before [06:02] tuxmaniac rings a bell... [06:02] they're reasonably people - and they do speak english [06:02] yeah - does some packaging [06:02] the other ones I don't believe I met myself. [06:02] they wanted me to go do a talk at ubuntu-in [06:02] er, at foss-in [06:02] cool [06:03] [17:02] Sorry guys..... To have hurt your feelings [06:03] [17:02] morning [06:03] [17:03] whose feelings are hurt, coolbhavi? [06:03] [17:03] Ok I admit its my mistake..kart_ [06:03] heh, nice :) [06:04] well let's hope that resolves that. [06:04] community looks kinda immature, though [06:05] Hobbsee: kinda makes me think of #ubuntuforums... odd close-knit pocket of people who goof around... [06:05] ;) [06:05] heh [06:08] FYI, i'm currently monitoring the floodbot(s) [06:10] when did they go in to action? [06:11] we're trying them out in #ubuntu from a few hours ago [06:11] manually opping and monitoring [06:11] ahh, didn't see them doing anything until just now [06:15] someobody deopped the one [06:15] i just snapped and reopped it [06:49] Don64 called the ops in #ubuntu () [06:50] taken care of [06:56] any ops around? [06:56] we have a bot spammer in #ubuntu-women :( [06:56] nalioth: ? [06:57] hypa7ia: which one's the bot? [06:57] Hobbsee: hawtsalad [06:57] i seen it [06:58] annoying [06:58] :( [06:58] hypa7ia: i didn't know mirc *did* bots [06:58] hahaha [06:58] as in, i thought they versioned differently [06:58] unless it's a version number fudging as well [06:58] brobably [06:58] to get around bans [07:00] choo choo! [07:01] :) [07:01] thanks people! [07:01] <3 <# === GazzaK is now known as Gary [12:47] I think we have some slow joining bots in #ubutu [12:47] bots in -ops-monitor are going mad [12:48] In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: pastebin is A Pastebin is a service where large texts can be posted as an alternative to flooding IRC channels. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ . After pasting, please copy the URL of the paste to the channel so others know where to find your data. [12:49] maybe they should run a /cs clear when they join? [12:49] why are they setting -Rr ? [12:50] definitely an attack coming [12:50] I cant see anything new in -ops-monitor since 6am [12:51] Seeker`: they're +m and the channel is +z [12:51] Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:51] ah [12:51] amidaniel called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:51] here it goes... [12:51] ST47 called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:51] Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:52] ok, that was exciting. [12:52] dutchie86 called the ops in #ubuntu () [12:52] interesting that it's detected it as a netsplit [12:52] Whoa [12:53] wow, I dont think I've seen an attack like that before [12:53] * Dave2 deops himself, what with named ops being around [12:53] Stupid bots were doing the exact opposite of what they should have been [12:54] gotta love that k-line train [12:54] yeah [12:54] Please be less of idiots, show some form of control over your channel, one of the largest and (seemingly) understaffed on freenode, and unban me. [12:54] hah [12:54] ha [12:55] * Hobbsee would have thought the klines were obvious enough [12:55] why does wikipedia keep giving cloaks to fools? [12:55] I +rRd, BTW, so be sure to take that off since it seems to be +m now anyway [12:57] So the bot reads attacks as netsplits? [12:58] probably because of the speed of the bots being k-lined [12:58] at one point, yes [12:58] hmm, it seems like they got right past the bots [12:59] blimey, I take more care who I give a colchester-lug cloak too [12:59] because the bots were doing -rR rather than +rR it seems [12:59] stdin: No, why they were joining [12:59] Right, it was doing the opposite of what it should have been [12:59] you can detect netsplits by looking at the quit reason [12:59] Instead of +rR and having the limit bounce them it did -rR and removed the limit :P [12:59] i dont know whether the bots just slowed down the joins [13:00] Amaranth: While they were joining, the limit was going up by 11 every 30 seconds or so [13:00] how come they didn't call ops in #ubuntu, only -ops-monitor (where they are all muted)? [13:00] heh, good question [13:00] --- Seveas sets ban on *!*@200.217.* [13:00] here we are again... [13:00] why are they muted anyway? [13:00] they're back [13:00] Seveas: Do you have a /panic trigger or something? [13:01] neh [13:01] you should get one :) [13:01] watch the ban list [13:01] I think the floodbots are in shock now, they didn't see the mass-join [13:01] Can you please be less of a hardheaded fool and begin to comprehend that #ubuntu is, apart from being horribly vulnerable, completely understaffed, and needs +J? [13:02] * Hobbsee did have a /help [13:02] * Hobbsee has lost it [13:03] wow, they just won't quit... [13:04] seems to be a pretty determined attack [13:04] It's actually quite simple, even a mostly blind up such as yourself could save the channel so much hell [13:04] he seems like a nice person [13:05] have you pointed out that we *do* use a +J [13:05] Err, no we don't [13:05] That's what FloodBot is for [13:06] Hobbsee: it isn't +J at the moment [13:06] We tried +J and failed [13:06] but, as far as I can see, it just slows down the join rate to ~ 11 every 30 seconds or so [13:06] oh, i thought the bots were using +J [13:06] Hobbsee: No, they use +l [13:06] ah [13:06] thought they used both [13:07] Perhaps we could just ban all of argentina? [13:07] I *think* the change the limit to number of users +11 if the number of users in the channel has a net change of 4 within a minute [13:07] am [13:07] Amaranth: *grin* [13:08] I don't know anyone from there [13:10] 3 people from one machine just joined [13:10] Seveas: these multiple people joining every few minutes, from different hosts, is worrying me. i think this is their next attack [13:10] i think they've realised that the others arent really working [13:11] Hobbsee, yes it's worrying indeed... [13:11] ther'es another 2 [13:12] amidaniel is getting annoying [13:12] yeah well [13:16] what is a amidaniel doing? [13:16] being a busy-body [13:17] whack-a-mole on a global scale [13:20] train's filling up awful fast. [13:20] choo choo [13:21] hehe :) [13:21] ST47 is bothering me now [13:21] he's an annoying prick [13:21] Trying to explain how +J is a cure-all [13:22] who thinks he knows everything [13:23] let him know that you have considered his advice carefully, but don't care :) [13:23] I've basically said that 3 times now [13:23] Seveas: it looks like there are some more getting caught in -unregged, if you care about them [13:24] just tell him that he can run his channel how he likes, but leave the running of ubuntu to the ubuntu ops [13:24] I ditched the -r [13:29] floodbots have been quiet for about 30mins now, seems the attack was too much for them [13:29] thats bad === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [13:53] Dec 02 12:55:09 * FloodBot1 sets mode -r #ubuntu [13:53] Dec 02 12:55:09 * FloodBot1 sets mode -R #ubuntu [13:54] Dec 02 12:56:01 * FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1302 [13:54] Dec 02 12:56:25 !netsplit [13:54] Dec 02 12:56:25 * FloodBot1 removes user limit [13:54] Dec 02 13:48:09 * FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1198 [13:54] Dec 02 13:50:13 * FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1192 [13:54] it is 13:57 my time [13:54] so that looks okay - it got into a netsplit thing and then dropped limit with the amount of parts [13:55] LjL, ^^ you might want to look at the interaction there - overall I am happy enough, when it gets to be too much it defaults in a sensible way [14:23] ompaul, been reading some logs, so there was an attack and the bots behaved kind of questionably (at least, from what i can see so far, it seems like they behaved a bit questionably), could you summarize what happened? logs are useful when you know what you're looking for [14:24] LjL, ehh let me find something useful for you] [14:24] ompaul, note i *do* have logs of all channels and of the bots as well, just need to put the pieces together [14:25] constant botnets. [14:25] LjL, at your time 12:51 we had slow joining bots [14:25] ompaul: (i can start with saying: the assumption of a !netsplit might have been sane, what was *not* sane was calling "!ops | mass join" like 50 times) [14:25] LjL, from there [14:25] 12:51? my time is utc *plus* one :) [14:25] LjL, did not notice that lots of time [14:26] LjL, I know your time [14:26] woops [14:26] my time [14:26] 12:51 [14:26] ompaul, that's because they're doing it in #ubuntu-ops-monitor and they're muted there, so unless you're opped, you won't see that (and ubotu ignores it as well) [14:26] woops [14:26] 13:51 [14:26] yeah 13:51 is more matching with my logs [14:26] LjL, I'll drop in there if it is of use going forward [14:27] ompaul, sure, they give a couple of warnings and stuff (or at least they did when one of them was opped... not they aren't, but i forgot to remove the mute =) [14:27] LjL, what I liked was the bot standing off at 13:56 but I think the recovery time was too long [14:28] assume that 10 mins game iis over [14:28] also a good assumption is that if you see klined we can remove bans in #ubuntu [14:28] hash up and mash up the ips [14:28] ompaul, that's a bit too complicated to implement now [14:28] that is where it could beat the humans [14:29] LjL, no worries [14:29] a lot of them joined from multiple IP's [14:29] er, from teh same IP's [14:29] ompaul, about recovery times, PM [14:29] call it feed back [14:29] Hobbsee: bot has no notion of hostname [14:29] it would be good if it could parse for 2+ connections from the same host [14:29] well, even 3+ would do [14:29] no one has any legit reason running more than 2 connections [14:30] Hobbsee, you need to make a white list in that case for himself thats one [14:30] :) [14:30] ompaul: well, there would be a few, yeah [14:30] ompaul: excluding those who run bots, there isnt. [14:31] ompaul: besides, i thought the bots were cloaked [14:32] Hobbsee, yeap well you can't discount that someone will not get a cloak to flood the channel [14:34] ompaul: bot cloaks are hard to get [14:34] Hobbsee, and as a bot master I am going to reg them as bots? [14:34] ompaul: no, not those bots. i meant LjL's bots, and ubotu and clones. [14:35] official ubuntu bots [14:35] okay [14:36] Hobbsee, clone detection is something i could probably add in [14:36] LjL: *nod* [14:37] LjL, that would be useful - set limit of 3 to react to I think [15:51] I need some help [15:51] I need to close down a channel [15:51] or at least have it redirect to ubuntu-ve [15:51] #ubuntu-ve-offtopic... [15:52] ok cool [15:52] *finds wiki page* [15:52] ah you're not contact [15:53] I am not [15:53] where ? [15:53] nalioth, could you make effie_jayx contact in #ubuntu-ve-offtopic please? (he is contact for -ve) [15:53] today is election day [15:53] effie_jayx, once nal changes that, you need to /msg chanserv identify #ubuntu-ve-offtopic, then follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/MovingChannels [15:53] Pardon? [15:54] and some guys started the channel to discuss politics in the channel [15:54] since I was explicit about no potlitics [15:54] they though... hey [15:54] let's register an offtopic and talk there [15:54] tell them to move out of #ubuntu/#ubuntu-ve namespace. [15:54] :S [15:55] I have [16:00] effie_jayx, they can do that, just not in an #ubuntu* channel... [16:00] LjL, but they registers the ubuntu-ve-offtopic just to talk politics [16:01] indeed, they can't do that. [16:01] and politics is an ugly issue in my country [16:01] they just did [16:01] I am not contact in thaht channel [16:01] so I can't have it redirect to #ubuntu-ve [16:02] You've just got to be patient for nalioth I'm afraid. [16:02] effie_jayx, i cannot help you right now [16:02] need staff [16:03] PriceChild, ok... [16:03] I'll guard the channel til then [16:03] so will i, but there's little we can actually do [16:04] effie_jayx: the_pumpkin opened another channel...? *scratches head* [16:05] LjL, he says it was there [16:05] I just became an ubuntu member, can somebody please give me a cloack [16:05] he's right [16:05] bbartek: give me your launchpad address please, and make sure that 1) you have a secondary nickname set (tell me what it is), and 2) you have a valid email listed in nickserv [16:06] https://launchpad.net/~bart [16:06] secondary nick bbartek_ [16:08] bbartek, you've linked the two nicknames on nickserv? [16:08] yes [16:10] LjL, no matter how much you try to tell em not to do things [16:10] they think the IRC is the island on the Lord of the flys [16:10] effie_jayx, well, they're not in there, at least [16:11] LjL, sorry to bother you with this [16:13] not at all, we're here for this [16:13] except, we are also in #ubuntu-irc *whistles* :P [16:18] LjL, is the cloack active already? [16:20] bbartek, no, not yet, freenode staff will have to do the actual cloaking, be patient [16:21] OK, thank you for the info and effort === Pici` is now known as Pici [16:38] How do you go about posting a possible issue or bug you found ? I noticed a possible huge security flaw ... in the lamp installation for ubuntu .. [16:38] Ximal: you can certainly discuss it here to decide whether or not it's a valid bug, but ultimately it needs to go onto Launchpad [16:39] you can set a privacy level on there by ticking the security issue checkbox [16:39] Ok.. When I tried to install phpbb i first copied all the files i downloaded to a file in www/forum [16:39] then modded the files... config.php with -rw-rw-rw [16:39] once i did that i went to the proper file through my browser to begin install.. [16:40] Once i did that i began to get errors about my mysql server.. [16:40] Once I went for support in ubuntu... I was told there is NO password for mysql,, [16:40] somehow when I hit install on the /www/forum/install,php or whatever it was... the password i entered became my mysql password [16:41] which should not have been able to be changed by the install files from a forum installation of phpbb [16:41] It's the reason in the ubuntu channel , no command they gave me requiring a password would work [16:43] the end ? [16:43] hmm, no idea on if that's a Ubuntu security problem or not [16:43]