[01:03] <LjL> mc44: .. -.. --- -. - -. . . -.. --- -. . .-- .... . -. .. .... .- ...- . -.-- --- ..-
[01:46] <ubuntu_is_awesom> help
[01:46] <ubuntu_is_awesom> first my mouse cursor is invisible in ubuntu (wow)  then some oper kicks me instead help (nice)
[01:47] <LjL> about as nice as is to come into an "X" channel with a nickname saying that "X" sucks.
[01:47] <LjL> come back tomorrow please
[01:48] <ubuntu_is_awesom> yeap I had no basis for beeing angry, it is normal that mouse cursors are invisible
[01:49] <LjL> indeed, bye
[01:50] <LjL> oh, you can get a refund though
[01:50] <LjL> google for it, see you later
[01:50] <ubuntu_is_awesom> I was hoping to try to solve the problem, wow this community is so helpfull
[02:01] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: merging is Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle.  Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information.
[02:01] <Hobbsee> merging is <reply>Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle.  Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information.
[02:01] <Hobbsee> !merging is <reply>Merging is the process of including changes from other distributions (most commonly Debian) into Ubuntu packages, and is typically a major focus at the beginning of each Ubuntu development cycle.  Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging for more information.
[02:01] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Hobbsee
[02:03] <Hobbsee> %register
[02:13]  * Pici wonders why pelo isnt in here
[02:47] <effie_jayx> god
[02:47] <effie_jayx> I hate elections in my country...
[02:47] <effie_jayx> lots of people filled with the 11 o clock news come politically charged
[02:47] <effie_jayx> and vent all in the IRC channel
[03:37] <ethana2> How would one go about creating a channel for psubuntu on freenode?
[04:16] <ethana2> Anyone?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> First, what is it?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> Second, Pricey would want me to direct you to #ubuntu-irc instead of here.
[04:20] <ethana2> IRC channel for Ubuntu for the PS3
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> ah
[04:54] <stdin> any staff about that want's to give me a shiny new ubuntu/member cloak ?
[05:24] <nalioth> stdin: for a quarter
[05:24] <stdin> sorry, we don't have 25p coins in the UK ;)
[05:24] <jdong> nalioth: ooh can we get humorous customized plates for double that?
[05:24] <nalioth> well, we can make it 100 quid, if you like
[05:25] <stdin> nah, I'll just give you a 20p coin and a 5p coin then
[05:25] <stdin> maybe with some fancy glueing I can make a quarter
[05:25] <coolbhavi> !OP
[05:25] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[05:25] <ubotu> coolbhavi called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()
[05:25] <nalioth> coolbhavi: please don't do that
[05:26] <jdong> what the heck was that?
[05:26] <nalioth> jdong: a lesson.
[05:26] <Hobbsee> git.
[05:26] <jdong> oh was he trying to get ubotu to op him?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> no, he's been banned.
[05:26] <jdong> Hobbsee: can we not unalias <bang>op?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> he was trying to get unbanned
[05:27] <Hobbsee> jdong: hm?
[05:27] <Hobbsee> oh, from here?  heh
[05:27] <jdong> Hobbsee: a lot of bots out there use it (singular) as a command to give ops
[05:27] <jdong> Hobbsee: I mean for only the plural <bang>ops to work
[05:27] <Hobbsee> seeing as there should be none of them in any ubuntu channel, this should not be a problem
[05:27] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: now, are you here about a channel emergency?
[05:28] <coolbhavi> yes.. To file an abuse report
[05:28] <jdong> Hobbsee: looks like op is alias ops... globally...
[05:28] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: an abuse report is not a channel emergency.  abuse repots can be filed at any time.
[05:28] <coolbhavi> OK didnt know that
[05:29] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: abuse reports do not tend to need attention ZOMGABSOLUTELYRIGHTNOW!
[05:29] <coolbhavi> OK sorry
[05:29] <Hobbsee> however, now that you've called multiple people to look on with your non-emergency situation, it would probably be appreciated if you didn't keep them waiting :)
[05:30] <jdong> coolbhavi: yeah, everyone in here is an op to begin with , so you can just begin your report; pinging all of them signifies some extreme emergency and we usually drop what we're doing to respond ;-)
[05:31] <coolbhavi> OK...... Inspite of being an ubuntu member the Indian local community flamed me up and booed me out
[05:32] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: your ubuntu membership is not a clear-pass to escape any punishment.  if you are brekaing the rules, cloak or not, you will still suffer the same punishments as those without an ubuntu cloak.
[05:32] <coolbhavi> Ubuntu Indian channel doesnt follow the CoC and has excessive flaming
[05:33] <Hobbsee> (just a FYI)
[05:33] <coolbhavi> Ok.....
[05:33] <Hobbsee> however, i have not seen the channel in question, so cannot comment
[05:34] <coolbhavi> But too much of flaming and singling out going on
[05:35] <coolbhavi> its ubuntu-in... Go there without a cloak and discuss something you ll come to know
[05:35]  * Hobbsee wonders if we have any indian speakers in this room
[05:36] <coolbhavi> they will treat me as a newbie
[05:36] <jdong> coolbhavi: do you have channel logs demonstrating such behavior so we can see the context?
[05:37] <coolbhavi> and consider my contribution to the community is useless
[05:37] <coolbhavi> I have the mailing list conversations
[05:37] <nalioth> we prefer the IRC logs, coolbhavi
[05:38] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (game)
[05:39] <coolbhavi> * kart_ (i=kartikm@59.161.0.235) has joined #ubuntu-in
 hi kart_
 coolbhavi,
 who is the OP here?
 and what is meant by OEM in foss?
[05:39] <coolbhavi> * coolbhavi pondering about definition of OEM
[05:39] <coolbhavi> * coolbhavi googling
 coolbhavi, why do you need to talk with OP?
[05:39] <coolbhavi> * phoenix24 has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[05:39] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
 no just asking.....
 whats the meaning of OEM in foss?
[05:39] <stdin> coolbhavi: please use a paste service
[05:40]  * Hobbsee waits.
[05:41] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: have you not read the rules sufficiently to understand the concept of a pastebin?
[05:41] <coolbhavi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46533/
[05:42] <Hobbsee> thankyou.
[05:42] <coolbhavi> here it is
[05:42] <Hobbsee> 83 lines is *definetly* not appropriate to paste in here.
[05:43] <coolbhavi> OK I just pasted the whole log as instructed
[05:44] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: what did you get your membership for, out of curiousity?
[05:45] <coolbhavi> to contribute to the community ofcourse
[05:46] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: they should have banned you earlier, imo.
[05:47] <coolbhavi> why? I am not expecting anything
[05:48] <coolbhavi> from them
[05:49] <Hobbsee> coolbhavi: you repeated questions, needlessly asked who was ops (hint, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-in list), you'd get on the indian loco CC if they thought you were good, you're irrirtating people in there...
[05:49] <Hobbsee> and then throw a tantrum, saying that you're leaving, as you didn't get the position that you wanted.
[05:49] <coolbhavi> I am just looking forward to contribute to the community thats it..
[05:49] <Hobbsee> from the log, it appears that youv'e done so multiple times
[05:50] <coolbhavi> i m not after any position hunt
[05:50] <Hobbsee> frankly, they should have banned you way earlier, until you'd learned not to be a pain in the neck.
[05:51] <coolbhavi> hey I m not there in the Indian loco team frankly.. because they wont support any ideas
[05:51] <coolbhavi> to improve the community
[05:51] <coolbhavi> so I got myself disaffiliated
[05:52] <coolbhavi> they targetted me on the mailing list for my ideas
[05:52] <Hobbsee> it appears you didn't present any ideas there, either.
[05:53] <coolbhavi> I have the whole 52 conversations
[05:53] <coolbhavi> I will paste it... Have a patient look please
[05:53] <Hobbsee> and if you pastebin it
[05:53] <Hobbsee> i'm going to kick you off the entire network.
[05:54] <Hobbsee> er, paste it in the channel
[05:54] <coolbhavi> In the pastebin
[05:57] <nalioth> why not just link to the mailing list?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> nalioth: irc based conversations?
[05:58] <nalioth> Hobbsee: his last words are about 52 mailing list conversations
[05:59] <Hobbsee> nalioth: oh, i assumed that by "52 conversations", he meant irc conversations, not mailing list ones...as we're the irc people, not the CC.
[06:00] <coolbhavi> OK leave it..... I m stepping out of that hell
[06:01] <coolbhavi> OK thanks
[06:02] <jdong> none of the -in ops hang out in this circle, do they? Their names don't ring a bell at all
[06:02] <Hobbsee> i've spoken to some of them before
[06:02] <jdong> tuxmaniac rings a bell...
[06:02] <Hobbsee> they're reasonably people - and they do speak english
[06:02] <Hobbsee> yeah - does some packaging
[06:02] <jdong> the other ones I don't believe I met myself.
[06:02] <Hobbsee> they wanted me to go do a talk at ubuntu-in
[06:02] <Hobbsee> er, at foss-in
[06:02] <jdong> cool
[06:03] <Hobbsee> [17:02] <coolbhavi> Sorry guys..... To have hurt your feelings
[06:03] <Hobbsee> [17:02] <HereBeDragon> morning
[06:03] <Hobbsee> [17:03] <HereBeDragon> whose feelings are hurt, coolbhavi?
[06:03] <Hobbsee> [17:03] <coolbhavi> Ok I admit its my mistake..kart_
[06:03] <Hobbsee> heh, nice :)
[06:04] <jdong> well let's hope that resolves that.
[06:04] <Hobbsee> community looks kinda immature, though
[06:05] <jdong> Hobbsee: kinda makes me think of #ubuntuforums... odd close-knit pocket of people who goof around...
[06:05] <jdong> ;)
[06:05] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:08] <nalioth> FYI, i'm currently monitoring the floodbot(s)
[06:10] <stdin> when did they go in to action?
[06:11] <nalioth> we're trying them out in #ubuntu from a few hours ago
[06:11] <nalioth> manually opping and monitoring
[06:11] <stdin> ahh, didn't see them doing anything until just now
[06:15] <nalioth> someobody deopped the one
[06:15] <nalioth> i just snapped and reopped it
[06:49] <ubotu> Don64 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[06:50] <nalioth> taken care of
[06:56] <hypa7ia> any ops around?
[06:56] <hypa7ia> we have a bot spammer in #ubuntu-women :(
[06:56] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ?
[06:57] <Hobbsee> hypa7ia: which one's the bot?
[06:57] <hypa7ia> Hobbsee: hawtsalad
[06:57] <nalioth> i seen it
[06:58] <hypa7ia> annoying
[06:58] <hypa7ia> :(
[06:58] <Hobbsee> hypa7ia: i didn't know mirc *did* bots
[06:58] <hypa7ia> hahaha
[06:58] <Hobbsee> as in, i thought they versioned differently
[06:58] <Hobbsee> unless it's a version number fudging as well
[06:58] <hypa7ia> brobably
[06:58] <hypa7ia> to get around bans
[07:00] <Hobbsee> choo choo!
[07:01] <hypa7ia> :)
[07:01] <hypa7ia> thanks people!
[07:01] <hypa7ia> <3 <#
[12:47] <stdin> I think we have some slow joining bots in #ubutu
[12:47] <stdin> bots in -ops-monitor are going mad
[12:48] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, persia said: ubotu: pastebin is <reply> A Pastebin is a service where large texts can be posted as an alternative to flooding IRC channels.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ .  After pasting, please copy the URL of the paste to the channel so others know where to find your data.
[12:49] <Gary> maybe they should run a /cs clear when they join?
[12:49] <stdin> why are they setting  -Rr ?
[12:50] <stdin> definitely an attack coming
[12:50] <Seeker`> I cant see anything new in -ops-monitor since 6am
[12:51] <stdin> Seeker`: they're +m and the channel is +z
[12:51] <ubotu> Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[12:51] <Seeker`> ah
[12:51] <ubotu> amidaniel called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[12:51] <stdin> here it goes...
[12:51] <ubotu> ST47 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[12:51] <ubotu> Arelis called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[12:52] <Dave2> ok, that was exciting.
[12:52] <ubotu> dutchie86 called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[12:52] <Hobbsee> interesting that it's detected it as a netsplit
[12:52] <Amaranth> Whoa
[12:53] <Seeker`> wow, I dont think I've seen an attack like that before
[12:53]  * Dave2 deops himself, what with named ops being around
[12:53] <Amaranth> Stupid bots were doing the exact opposite of what they should have been
[12:54] <stdin> gotta love that k-line train
[12:54] <Seveas> yeah
[12:54] <ST47> Please be less of idiots, show some form of control over your channel, one of the largest and (seemingly) understaffed on freenode, and unban me.
[12:54] <Hobbsee> hah
[12:54] <Amaranth> ha
[12:55]  * Hobbsee would have thought the klines were obvious enough
[12:55] <Seveas> why does wikipedia keep giving cloaks to fools?
[12:55] <Dave2> I +rRd, BTW, so be sure to take that off since it seems to be +m now anyway
[12:57] <Amaranth> So the bot reads attacks as netsplits?
[12:58] <stdin> probably because of the speed of the bots being k-lined
[12:58] <Hobbsee> at one point, yes
[12:58] <Seeker`> hmm, it seems like they got right past the bots
[12:59] <Gary> blimey, I take more care who I give a colchester-lug cloak too
[12:59] <stdin> because the bots were doing -rR rather than +rR it seems
[12:59] <Amaranth> stdin: No, why they were joining
[12:59] <Amaranth> Right, it was doing the opposite of what it should have been
[12:59] <tomaw> you can detect netsplits by looking at the quit reason
[12:59] <Amaranth> Instead of +rR and having the limit bounce them it did -rR and removed the limit :P
[12:59] <Seeker`> i dont know whether the bots just slowed down the joins
[13:00] <Seeker`> Amaranth: While they were joining, the limit was going up by 11 every 30 seconds or so
[13:00] <stdin> how come they didn't call ops in #ubuntu, only -ops-monitor (where they are all muted)?
[13:00] <Amaranth> heh, good question
[13:00] <Seveas> --- Seveas sets ban on *!*@200.217.*
[13:00] <Hobbsee> here we are again...
[13:00] <Amaranth> why are they muted anyway?
[13:00] <Seveas> they're back
[13:00] <Amaranth> Seveas: Do you have a /panic trigger or something?
[13:01] <Seveas> neh
[13:01] <Amaranth> you should get one :)
[13:01] <ompaul> watch the ban list
[13:01] <stdin> I think the floodbots are in shock now, they didn't see the mass-join
 Can you please be less of a hardheaded fool and begin to comprehend that #ubuntu is, apart from being horribly vulnerable, completely understaffed, and needs +J?
[13:02]  * Hobbsee did have a /help
[13:02]  * Hobbsee has lost it
[13:03] <stdin> wow, they just won't quit...
[13:04] <Seeker`> seems to be a pretty determined attack
 It's actually quite simple, even a mostly blind up such as yourself could save the channel so much hell
[13:04] <Gary> he seems like a nice person
[13:05] <Hobbsee> have you pointed out that we *do* use a +J
[13:05] <Amaranth> Err, no we don't
[13:05] <Amaranth> That's what FloodBot is for
[13:06] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: it isn't +J at the moment
[13:06] <Amaranth> We tried +J and failed
[13:06] <Seeker`> but, as far as I can see, it just slows down the join rate to ~ 11 every 30 seconds or so
[13:06] <Hobbsee> oh, i thought the bots were using +J
[13:06] <Seeker`> Hobbsee: No, they use +l
[13:06] <Hobbsee> ah
[13:06] <Hobbsee> thought they used both
[13:07] <Amaranth> Perhaps we could just ban all of argentina?
[13:07] <Seeker`> I *think* the change the limit to number of users +11 if the number of users in the channel has a net change of 4 within a minute
[13:07] <Hobbsee> am
[13:07] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: *grin*
[13:08] <Amaranth> I don't know anyone from there
[13:10] <Amaranth> 3 people from one machine just joined
[13:10] <Hobbsee> Seveas: these multiple people joining every few minutes, from different hosts, is worrying me.  i think this is their next attack
[13:10] <Hobbsee> i think they've realised that the others arent really working
[13:11] <Seveas> Hobbsee, yes it's worrying indeed...
[13:11] <Hobbsee> ther'es another 2
[13:12] <Amaranth> amidaniel is getting annoying
[13:12] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[13:16] <Seeker`> what is a amidaniel doing?
[13:16] <stdin> being a busy-body
[13:17] <Hobbsee> whack-a-mole on a global scale
[13:20] <Hobbsee> train's filling up awful fast.
[13:20] <Seveas> choo choo
[13:21] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[13:21] <Amaranth> ST47 is bothering me now
[13:21] <Seveas> he's an annoying prick
[13:21] <Amaranth> Trying to explain how +J is a cure-all
[13:22] <Seveas> who thinks he knows everything
[13:23] <stdin> let him know that you have considered his advice carefully, but don't care :)
[13:23] <Amaranth> I've basically said that 3 times now
[13:23] <Hobbsee> Seveas: it looks like there are some more getting caught in -unregged, if you care about them
[13:24] <Seeker`> just tell him that he can run his channel how he likes, but leave the running of ubuntu to the ubuntu ops
[13:24] <Seveas> I ditched the -r
[13:29] <stdin> floodbots have been quiet for about 30mins now, seems the attack was too much for them
[13:29] <Seeker`> thats bad
[13:53] <ompaul> Dec 02 12:55:09 *       FloodBot1 sets mode -r #ubuntu
[13:53] <ompaul> Dec 02 12:55:09 *       FloodBot1 sets mode -R #ubuntu
[13:54] <ompaul> Dec 02 12:56:01 *       FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1302
[13:54] <ompaul> Dec 02 12:56:25 <FloodBot1>     !netsplit
[13:54] <ompaul> Dec 02 12:56:25 *       FloodBot1 removes user limit
[13:54] <ompaul> Dec 02 13:48:09 *       FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1198
[13:54] <ompaul> Dec 02 13:50:13 *       FloodBot1 sets channel limit to 1192
[13:54] <ompaul> it is 13:57 my time
[13:54] <ompaul> so that looks okay - it got into a netsplit thing and then dropped limit with the amount of parts
[13:55] <ompaul> LjL, ^^ you might want to look at the interaction there - overall I am happy enough, when it gets to be too much it defaults in a sensible way
[14:23] <LjL> ompaul, been reading some logs, so there was an attack and the bots behaved kind of questionably (at least, from what i can see so far, it seems like they behaved a bit questionably), could you summarize what happened? logs are useful when you know what you're looking for
[14:24] <ompaul> LjL, ehh let me find something useful for you]
[14:24] <LjL> ompaul, note i *do* have logs of all channels and of the bots as well, just need to put the pieces together
[14:25] <Hobbsee> constant botnets.
[14:25] <ompaul> LjL, at your time 12:51 we had slow joining bots
[14:25] <LjL> ompaul: (i can start with saying: the assumption of a !netsplit might have been sane, what was *not* sane was calling "!ops | mass join" like 50 times)
[14:25] <ompaul> LjL, from there
[14:25] <LjL> 12:51? my time is utc *plus* one :)
[14:25] <ompaul> LjL, did not notice that lots of time
[14:26] <ompaul> LjL, I know your time
[14:26] <ompaul> woops
[14:26] <ompaul> my time
[14:26] <ompaul> 12:51
[14:26] <LjL> ompaul, that's because they're doing it in #ubuntu-ops-monitor and they're muted there, so unless you're opped, you won't see that (and ubotu ignores it as well)
[14:26] <ompaul> woops
[14:26] <ompaul> 13:51
[14:26] <LjL> yeah 13:51 is more matching with my logs
[14:26] <ompaul> LjL, I'll drop in there if it is of use going forward
[14:27] <LjL> ompaul, sure, they give a couple of warnings and stuff (or at least they did when one of them was opped... not they aren't, but i forgot to remove the mute =)
[14:27] <ompaul> LjL, what I liked was the bot standing off at 13:56 but I think the recovery time was too long
[14:28] <ompaul> assume that 10 mins game iis over
[14:28] <ompaul> also a good assumption is that if you see klined we can remove bans in #ubuntu
[14:28] <ompaul> hash up and mash up the ips
[14:28] <LjL> ompaul, that's a bit too complicated to implement now
[14:28] <ompaul> that is where it could beat the humans
[14:29] <ompaul> LjL, no worries
[14:29] <Hobbsee> a lot of them joined from multiple IP's
[14:29] <Hobbsee> er, from teh same IP's
[14:29] <LjL> ompaul, about recovery times, PM
[14:29] <ompaul> call it feed back
[14:29] <LjL> Hobbsee: bot has no notion of hostname
[14:29] <Hobbsee> it would be good if it could parse for 2+ connections from the same host
[14:29] <Hobbsee> well, even 3+ would do
[14:29] <Hobbsee> no one has any legit reason running more than 2 connections
[14:30] <ompaul> Hobbsee, you need to make a white list in that case for himself thats one
[14:30] <ompaul> :)
[14:30] <Hobbsee> ompaul: well, there would be a few, yeah
[14:30] <Hobbsee> ompaul: excluding those who run bots, there isnt.
[14:31] <Hobbsee> ompaul: besides, i thought the bots were cloaked
[14:32] <ompaul> Hobbsee, yeap well you can't discount that someone will not get a cloak to flood the channel
[14:34] <Hobbsee> ompaul: bot cloaks are hard to get
[14:34] <ompaul> Hobbsee, and as a bot master I am going to reg them as bots?
[14:34] <Hobbsee> ompaul: no, not those bots.  i meant LjL's bots, and ubotu and clones.
[14:35] <Hobbsee> official ubuntu bots
[14:35] <ompaul> okay
[14:36] <LjL> Hobbsee, clone detection is something i could probably add in
[14:36] <Hobbsee> LjL: *nod*
[14:37] <ompaul> LjL, that would be useful - set limit of 3 to react to I think
[15:51] <effie_jayx> I need some help
[15:51] <effie_jayx> I need to close down a channel
[15:51] <effie_jayx> or at least have it redirect to ubuntu-ve
[15:51] <effie_jayx> #ubuntu-ve-offtopic...
[15:52] <PriceChild> ok cool
[15:52] <PriceChild> *finds wiki page*
[15:52] <PriceChild> ah you're not contact
[15:53] <effie_jayx> I am not
[15:53] <effie_jayx> where ?
[15:53] <PriceChild> nalioth, could you make effie_jayx contact in #ubuntu-ve-offtopic please? (he is contact for -ve)
[15:53] <effie_jayx> today is election day
[15:53] <PriceChild> effie_jayx, once nal changes that, you need to /msg chanserv identify #ubuntu-ve-offtopic, then follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/MovingChannels
[15:53] <PriceChild> Pardon?
[15:54] <effie_jayx> and some guys started the channel to discuss politics in the channel
[15:54] <effie_jayx> since  I was explicit about no potlitics
[15:54] <effie_jayx> they though... hey
[15:54] <effie_jayx> let's register an offtopic and talk there
[15:54] <PriceChild> tell them to move out of #ubuntu/#ubuntu-ve namespace.
[15:54] <effie_jayx> :S
[15:55] <effie_jayx> I have
[16:00] <LjL> effie_jayx, they can do that, just not in an #ubuntu* channel...
[16:00] <effie_jayx> LjL,  but they registers the ubuntu-ve-offtopic just to talk politics
[16:01] <LjL> indeed, they can't do that.
[16:01] <effie_jayx> and politics is an ugly issue in my country
[16:01] <effie_jayx> they just did
[16:01] <effie_jayx> I am not contact in thaht channel
[16:01] <effie_jayx> so I can't have it redirect to #ubuntu-ve
[16:02] <PriceChild> You've just got to be patient for nalioth I'm afraid.
[16:02] <LjL> effie_jayx, i cannot help you right now
[16:02] <LjL> need staff
[16:03] <effie_jayx> PriceChild,  ok...
[16:03] <effie_jayx> I'll guard the channel til then
[16:03] <LjL> so will i, but there's little we can actually do
[16:04] <LjL> effie_jayx: the_pumpkin opened another channel...? *scratches head*
[16:05] <effie_jayx> LjL,  he says it was there
[16:05] <bbartek> I just became an ubuntu member, can somebody please give me a cloack
[16:05] <LjL> he's right
[16:05] <LjL> bbartek: give me your launchpad address please, and make sure that 1) you have a secondary nickname set (tell me what it is), and 2) you have a valid email listed in nickserv
[16:06] <bbartek> https://launchpad.net/~bart
[16:06] <bbartek> secondary nick bbartek_
[16:08] <PriceChild> bbartek, you've linked the two nicknames on nickserv?
[16:08] <bbartek> yes
[16:10] <effie_jayx> LjL,  no matter how much you try to tell em not to do things
[16:10] <effie_jayx> they think the IRC is the island on the Lord of the flys
[16:10] <LjL> effie_jayx, well, they're not in there, at least
[16:11] <effie_jayx> LjL,  sorry to bother you with this
[16:13] <LjL> not at all, we're here for this
[16:13] <LjL> except, we are also in #ubuntu-irc *whistles* :P
[16:18] <bbartek> LjL, is the cloack active already?
[16:20] <LjL> bbartek, no, not yet, freenode staff will have to do the actual cloaking, be patient
[16:21] <bbartek> OK, thank you for the info and effort
[16:38] <Ximal> How do you go about posting a possible issue or bug you found ? I noticed a possible huge security flaw ... in the lamp installation for ubuntu ..
[16:38] <jdong> Ximal: you can certainly discuss it here to decide whether or not it's a valid bug, but ultimately it needs to go onto Launchpad
[16:39] <jdong> you can set a privacy level on there by ticking the security issue checkbox
[16:39] <Ximal> Ok.. When I tried to install phpbb i first copied all the files i downloaded to a file in www/forum
[16:39] <Ximal> then modded the files... config.php with -rw-rw-rw
[16:39] <Ximal> once i did that i went to the proper file through my browser to begin install..
[16:40] <Ximal> Once i did that i began to get errors about my mysql server..
[16:40] <Ximal> Once I went for support in ubuntu... I was told there is NO password for mysql,,
[16:40] <Ximal> somehow when I hit install on the /www/forum/install,php or whatever it was... the password i entered became my mysql password
[16:41] <Ximal> which should not have been able to be changed by the install files from a forum installation of phpbb
[16:41] <Ximal> It's the reason in the ubuntu channel , no command they gave me requiring a password would work
[16:43] <Ximal> the end ?
[16:43] <jdong> hmm, no idea on if that's a Ubuntu security problem or not
[16:43] <jdong> it sounds to me like a configuration problem with your particular phpbb install
[16:43] <Ximal> well... it's a lamp installation security issue ?
[16:43] <Pici> you can ask in #ubuntu-bugs whether its bug-worthy or not
[16:44] <Ximal> is it possible it's a flaw in the way phpbb tried to install and somehow in their scripting on the web-interface changed my pwd ?
[16:44] <Ximal> oh ok.. heh.. didn't know the proper channel pici
[16:44] <Ximal> thank you very much guys..
[16:44] <Ximal> bye..
[17:44] <Seveas> nalioth, what's the status on the GCF's for the council?
[17:47] <jdong> Globulin Codimerization Factors.... Greatest Common Factors... Green Chloroform Fluid..... ok I give up on deciphering that
[17:48] <LjL> jdong: group contact form
[17:48] <jdong> ah :)
[18:23] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[18:24] <LjL> uhm that was probably a false positive
[18:24] <Pici> Yah
[18:24] <PriceChild> lets see :P
[19:43] <effie_jayx> nalioth, ping
[19:45] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[19:45] <nalioth> effie_jayx: pong
[19:46] <PriceChild> *just* at the limit again..
[19:46] <PriceChild> nalioth, can you give him #ubuntu-ve-offtopic please?
[19:46] <nalioth> PriceChild: um, he _has_ it
[19:47] <jdong> PriceChild: I think it's time for statistically sensitive join profiling :)
[19:47] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  thanks
[19:47] <PriceChild> nalioth, Sorry, didn't realise because nothing was said.
[19:47] <nalioth> effie_jayx: you forgot what channels you have?
[19:48] <PriceChild> nalioth, I think there's a cloak request up there too incase you missed it.
[19:48] <PriceChild> Or are you a beast and got that one too as silent as a fish?
[19:49] <nalioth> i don't see any cloak requests with my nick attached
[19:49] <effie_jayx> nalioth,  heh, I don't remember it being on my list
[19:49] <nalioth> if my nick isn't attached, i don't get it in the /awaylog
[19:49] <jdong> PriceChild: since when were fish silent?
[19:49] <nalioth> effie_jayx: /msg nickserv info effie_jayx
[19:49] <PriceChild> nalioth, bbartek
[19:49] <PriceChild> jdong, when's the last time you heard one call out to you?
[19:50] <jdong> PriceChild: they have tree-huggers do that for them.
[19:50] <jdong> PriceChild: and they are quite loud and annoying
[19:50] <jdong> and intrusive
[19:50] <jdong> :)
[19:52] <ikonia> hi guys
[19:54] <stefg> hi, just for curiosity: What is that floodbot, and what's the purpose?
[19:55] <LjL> stefg: setting +l and stopping attacks.
[20:58] <bbartek> PriceChild,
[21:01] <LjL> jdong: statistically sensitive join profiling... you mean like plotting a distribution of how many joins there are in one minute?
[21:01] <PriceChild> bbartek, ?
[21:06] <bbartek> yes
[21:06] <LjL> ...
[21:06] <bbartek> you caaled me?
[21:06] <LjL> erm no, you called PriceChild
[21:07] <bbartek> PriceChild,  called me and nalioth  before
[21:07] <PriceChild> bbartek, I was calling him to sort out your cloak.
[21:07] <bbartek> ow, sorry misonderstud this message
[21:08] <bbartek> thanks for the effort guys
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I cant believe Ljl hasnt strangled that guy yet.
[21:24] <LjL> i kick innocent people to make up for the lack of strangling
[21:24] <LjL> beware
[21:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Everyone..  take care, see you all tomorrow.  Thanks for the fine work
[21:25] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL: Go ahead kick me if it makes you feel better... I was leaving anyhow
[21:26] <bbartek> thx for the cloack, it's ok now :)
[21:37] <jussi01> PriceChild: thanks for the little input ;)
[22:09]  * Pici shakes his head
[22:10] <Kagar> I'm sorry Pici
[22:10] <Pici> You dont need to apoligize to me, you broke the rules, not my rules.
[22:10] <Kagar> I hadn't realized completely what I was doing
[22:11] <Kagar> But, how long is the banishment?
[22:11] <Pici> 24 hours.
[22:11] <Kagar> All right.
[22:11] <Kagar> Then I shall see you in 24 hours.
[22:11] <Kagar> mmm
[22:54] <macogw> if i'm an ubuntu member, how do i get the member cloak?
[22:55] <LjL> macogw, please tell me your launchpad URL, and make sure you have a secondary nickname set (tell me which) and a valid email in nickserv
[22:56] <macogw> https://edge.launchpad.net/~maco.m
[22:56] <macogw> um how do i see what i have set in nickserv? that was a while ago
[22:56] <nalioth> Freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup macogw
[22:57] <LjL> macogw: /ns info macogw
[22:59] <macogw> ok then i have macogw and macogw_
[22:59] <macogw> and the email address is macoafi@gmail
[23:00] <LjL> macogw: thank you, you will receive a cloak shortly
[23:00] <macogw> thanks