[00:38] how do i go about changing the default cdplayer. xfce wants to open totem (which doesn't play cds), and i want it to open xmms (which does play cds) [00:38] hey didn't someone release an ubuntu distribution for multimedia development? [00:39] Ubuntu Studio (cf. #ubuntustudio) [00:39] ahh thanks [00:40] I was wondering where I could purchase a cd of that for a friend, they don't use compiz or other flashy desktop graphics from the start do they? [00:40] 7.10 doesn't, no. [00:40] well, it uses the default Ubuntu base. [00:41] just wondering if they installed that by default though [00:41] crimsun@Box:~$ apt-cache show ubuntustudio-desktop |grep compiz;echo $? [00:41] 1 [00:41] so, no. [00:42] um it echoed 1 wouldn't that mean yes? [00:42] no. [00:42] hmm usually does that's odd [00:43] a "success" return value is 0. [00:43] ohh I see what you refering to [01:46] whoops === Rynux9 is now known as Rynux91 [01:47] is synaptic a front end for apt-get or aptitude? [01:48] gnat_x: yes [01:48] both? [01:48] how do i specify my preference? [01:49] since i'm setting up my folks machine, and i want them to be able to do updates themselves, i'm using it for the first time. but the gui is driving me nuts. but i don't want to use aptitude (which is what i generally use) if its a front for apt-get. [01:52] can anyone tell me how to stop totem from autoplaying dvds when they're inserted? [01:52] yes. [01:52] i just learned. :) [01:52] great! [01:52] :) [01:53] gnat_x: I'm not sure, I use apt-get from the command line, but wouldn't the `there are updates available' taskbar thing suffice for them? [01:53] Settings --> Settings Manager | File Manager, Advanced tab - click configure. multimedia tab. [01:53] emarkd: ^^ [01:54] gnat_x: thanks! trying it now [01:54] thruxton: yeah. i just want to use something from the cli. but apt-get and aptitude track packages slightly differently, and i don't want to step on synaptic's toes. [01:55] gnat_x: yeah, stick to one method [01:56] but I'm not sure which in your case :) as i have never used synaptic or aptitude [01:59] thruxton: yeah, i'm gritting my teeth and going with synaptic only. [02:19] Apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, update-manager, etc. are intercompatible. [02:21] Upgrading between releases is best done through the update-manager, but otherwise, feel free to use what you're comfortable with. [02:21] oh. cool. [02:22] that's good to know. but i thought that aptitude uninstalled unused packages at purge, instead of needing to use deborphan. [02:25] k, where r the testing proceedures [02:28] nm, found them [02:31] gnat_x: It does, but it separates that functionality from the others. It has to have been used to install the packages in the first place. [02:31] *nod* [03:18] My fonts are too big (i've put Xft.dpi: 96 in Xft.xrdb, but it doesn't seem to affect it at all). Using 4.10. Can anyone help me? [03:34] My fonts are too big (i've put Xft.dpi: 96 in Xft.xrdb, but it doesn't seem to affect it at all). Using Xubuntu 7.10. Can anyone help me? === iforgot is now known as lulz === lulz is now known as ni1 === ni1 is now known as nillll === nillll is now known as ni1 === ni1 is now known as [ [03:57] What's a good, light-weight mp3/music player for xubuntu? [03:57] xfce4, really ;p [03:59] hey you guys...does anyone know if the ati 9800 will work in xubuntu 7.10 with my current samsung 22' LCD which is " [03:59] fuzzy" [04:14] I think it can now sleepwal1 [04:14] kupesoft: exaile's worth a look [04:14] Not in the middle of John Scofield's new album... [04:16] sleepwal1: Don't see why it shouldn't? AFAIK that graphics chip is supported by X, if it can support you screen you're fine (and I think it most definitely does). [04:16] s/you screen/your screen's resolution/ === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [05:24] hello all [05:24] anyone to help me with upgrading my deskktop enviroment ? === XwarlokX82 is now known as X|Dirtnappin [05:31] anybody ? [06:18] hello [07:47] can i downgrade from gutsy to fiesty? too many problems with gutsy on my HP laptop [08:15] can i downgrade from gutsy to fiesty? too many problems with gutsy on my HP laptop [11:12] hello [11:12] how do I edit application menus in Xfce menu list? [11:13] When I open xfce-menueditor i cant make changes [11:13] what file should I open to add application to menu manually? [11:14] I managed to add one application to root of the meny (file in ~/menu.xml [11:14] But how to edit the rest of menus? [11:32] knock knock :) [11:33] Anyone heere? :) [11:33] hush, we're hiding [11:52] :)) [11:56] (SD card inserted) [11:56] arg [11:56] I have a memory card reader and (x) ubuntu is not picking it up (SD card inserted) [11:56] ^^ anyone able to help? [11:58] nikolam, you probably mean ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml, right? [12:00] i dont know [12:01] I dont know how to make menu editor edit menues [12:01] i think most of the menus are imported somewher [12:01] somewhere even [12:01] just a handful are actually xfce menus [12:01] I would like to add application to menues. [12:02] yeah, that can be done [12:02] i think [12:02] I just need to find what file to edit [12:02] it's that file i said [12:02] file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/xfdesktop.html [12:03] one doesn't originally exist, you can take /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml for sample [12:03] 'morning guys [12:03] then just put it where i said and modify it [12:03] adding should be simple, removing stuff not that much :/ [12:03] who here is using compiz-fusion and it's working properly? [12:04] in xubuntu [12:04] i'd personally use the compositioning that comes with xfce4 myself [12:05] i dont use compiz now. I get glitches in 2d with drawing windows. Ati 8.40 driver [12:05] the compositioning that's inbuilt in xfce4 seemed to work nice. it's probably more stable than compiz-fusion [12:06] i turned it off though since i don't really need it [12:07] hey nanonyme when I open ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml i get the same thing as right click > edit menu on xfce menu [12:07] yeah [12:07] FlashWolf: me [12:08] anyone help me with card reader? [12:08] but i need .xml for editing applications [12:08] the ones that already exist? [12:08] daurnimator: lol my hero! [12:08] how did u got it? [12:08] xD [12:09] as i said, i think they're imported somewhere outside xfce config system [12:09] Install it with guide in ubuntu forums [12:09] i haven't found out where [12:09] then disable xgl [12:09] the one that have accesories, development, multimedia, office in it.. [12:09] then screw around with config to get it to sane defaults [12:09] daurnimator: ok. i'm running compizfusion here, [12:10] but without windows' borders [12:10] have you got the window decorator in the compiz's setup? [12:10] i'm looking for emerald, but my .list file is poor (i think so) [12:10] in the compiz dialogue [12:10] goto window decorator [12:10] daurnimator: and i have to download the compiz setup [12:10] i havent this [12:11] goto applications [12:11] i downloaded in a previous distro [12:11] settings [12:11] adavnced window effects [12:11] daurnimator: i havent this option... :( [12:11] ^^ can you do that? [12:11] sudo aptitude reinstall compiz [12:11] lets begin at the begginning: [12:12] from where did u installed compiz fusion? [12:12] can't remember [12:12] bzr repos [12:12] I think [12:13] ok. reinstalled and... nothing. [12:13] ok. reinstalled and... nothing. [12:13] - sorry for double posting === daurnimator is now known as zz_daurnimator === zz_daurnimator is now known as daurnimator === daurnimator is now known as zz_daurnimator === zz_daurnimator is now known as daurnimator [12:15] daurnimator: could u show me what's in ur sources.list? [12:18] that bzr source... [12:21] help! [12:21] Hey, what about /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/xfce-registered-categories.xml for changing default applications in menu? [12:21] I accidently ran "compiz -h" [12:21] and my desktop quit [12:21] and I can't get back in [12:21] I'm in a tty now [12:21] daurnima1or: could u show me what's in ur sources.list? [12:21] the bzr sources [12:21] FlashWolf: not right now, I'm in more trouble [12:21] daurnima1or, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [12:22] also try to run sudo gdm [12:22] oh, FlashWolf do you have the first party binary drivers for your gfx card? [12:23] daurnima1or: the nvidia's (my case) drivers? [12:23] ah, gfx [12:23] daurnima1or, also you can change options with sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [12:24] kill gdm with sudo killall gdm and start gdm with sudo gdm. or just start x with startx after editing xorg.conf [12:25] i got to go now , "will be back" :)) [12:26] mmm [12:28] daurnima1or: downloading from eyecandy stuff... [12:28] ok [12:28] I'm back in a gui [12:28] but its reset everything [12:28] and I had important stuff open [12:29] very annoying [12:30] daurnimator: ok. i got CompizConfig Settings Manager. right? [12:30] you have that now? [12:30] daurnimator: yeah [12:30] ok. goto window Decorations [12:31] crashed... [12:31] xit [12:31] >.< [12:32] "i'm feeling lucky"! [13:33] where are the startup applications defined? [13:35] zanzer7: applications > settings > autostarted applications [13:36] FlashWolf, I've already been there, it doesn't have nm-applet, which is really what's bothering me (it starts three nm-applets each time I log on) [13:36] FlashWolf, well it _does_ have network manager, but not three of them [13:54] remove network manager from there [13:54] its remembering you had it open before [13:54] starts it [13:54] then sees it in that list [13:54] and starts it an additoinal time === X|Dirtnappin is now known as XwarlokX82 [14:13] Hello! Does anyone know how to make the Battery Monitor Applet put my laptop in suspend when the critical % is reached? [14:14] All command line methods I've found requires sudo (or?) [14:56] well what's wrong with that? === FlashWolf is now known as FlashWolf|out [16:02] hello? [16:05] I'm trying to install xubuntu on a mini-pc with SiS x86 compatible processor but get "No installable kernel was found". Any way around this? === XwarlokX83 is now known as XwarlokX82 [17:11] I'm on gutsy and want to update my xfce4-plugin-notes to newer version, but can't find a package for it?! [17:12] evge: newer than what? [17:12] than my current version I have which I think is 1.3 or 1.4, but I can't be sure [17:13] how to check what version of the plugins I'm running [17:13] How do you know there's a newer version if you don't know which version you have? [17:13] !info xfce4-plugin-notes [17:13] Package xfce4-plugin-notes does not exist in gutsy [17:14] it's xfce4-notes-plugin [17:14] sorry [17:14] I checked http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-notes-plugin [17:14] !info xfce4-notes-plugin [17:14] xfce4-notes-plugin: Notes plugin for the Xfce4 desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 324 kB [17:15] the current version is 1.6, how to update to that version [17:15] Is there a particular reason you need the newest version? [17:16] yes, I want to use that notes for some advanced task managment and the current one is very limited [17:16] All right. [17:16] !packaging [17:16] The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports [17:17] !compile [17:17] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) [17:17] evge: Read the various documents from those two links for how to build the package. [17:17] thanks [17:18] GL [17:35] HI [17:36] Hi is there a decent manpage reader about (other then typing man , I'm looking for something that would show my man pages in an html pretty format [17:37] ubuntu, you could open it in the vim gui and then convert the text to html with a button. [17:38] I don't know of a man reader like you speak o f. [17:39] gvim is the vim gui [17:39] sleepwal1, yeah thats what I was hoping for :). someone told me about konqueror being able to do it, but I was hoping for something similar [17:39] okay well you need to get vim [17:39] sleepwal1, yeah I use vim often for programming, but I was hoping for something with at least some formatting, a bit easier on the eyes :) [17:39] sudo apt-get install vim [17:40] ubuntu123, vim has a feature that converts text to html [17:40] hi [17:40] then you could open in konqueror [17:40] don't man pages have hyperlinks already though? [17:40] how can i have my video driver settings stick? [17:40] sleepwal1, yes in konqueror, but I don't use that :) [17:41] oh [17:41] bmod, change your xorg.conf? [17:41] yes [17:41] did you save them as root? [17:41] i have a working xorg.conf in place [17:41] alright, what exactly is not saving? [17:42] sleepwal1, thanks for the idea, I'm looking for either a specific man page reader or something I could use in firefox. [17:42] when i reboot, xorg.conf does not seem to be change, but when it's starting x, it shows a login prompt and then automatically tells me something isn't configured right [17:43] (tries to start screen & graphics) [17:43] alright, whats the "something" [17:43] i seriously don't know, it looks like a program that probes my video devices or so [17:44] when you boot in, try doing [ALT] [F1] and see what the startup scripts are doing... [17:44] alt + f1 ? [17:44] (this would be during the splash screen) and yes [17:44] oh that shows the console output? [17:44] bmod, correct [17:45] ok, thanks, gonna try that now [17:52] hmm [17:52] ubuntu123, last thing it shows is something setting up a keymap or so [17:52] bmod, any interesting input? [17:52] i have this problem since the update to 7.10 [17:53] alright can you tell me exactly whats going wrong and what it is that you are expecting. I'm not exactly sure what your issue is just by what I know so far [17:53] now it runs fine again, but only after a reinstallation of the nvidia drivers, they seem to disappear when i reboot [17:53] alright, are the nvidia drivers restricted? [17:54] somebody here told me to use dkpg-configure, but that didn't help me [17:54] i use the drivers from the nvidia site [17:54] which worked fine until 7.10 [17:54] alright, does the restricted drivers manager give you anything? Unfortunatly linux and proprietary drivers don't always go togather :S [17:55] * ubuntu123 mutters something about broadcom wireless [17:55] hehe [17:56] i tried that for a few hours, but i really hate it when i set a resolution to eg. 1024x786 and it jumps happily back to 640x480 [17:56] i will not start to complain about the dual monitor setup i have :) [17:56] bmod, hah alright [17:56] strange thing is, it runs great now [17:56] \o/ [17:56] but it's all gone when i reboot [17:57] mmm so every time you have to re-install the drivers? [17:57] yep [17:57] when you reboot, are the drivers still there? [17:57] i have a spare xorg.conf backup just in case some tool overwrites my xorg.conf [17:57] well i'm not sure where the driver files reside [17:58] any idea? [17:58] wherever nvidia puts them ;) [17:58] somewhere in usr? [17:59] bmod, yeah probably :S, try doing find / | grep nvidia [17:59] or something like that [17:59] sounds like your linux system is going to defaults when you boot [17:59] so its probably changing something or other that nvidia changed [18:00] for that part yes, the rest seems to run fine [18:00] just I don't have a clue what would be changing on boot [18:00] but it would be in your init scripts [18:01] well the 'screens and graphics' tool is new to me [18:01] bmod, yeah, what I think is going on is this [18:02] when you boot your system, it runs through a set of "init" scripts (initilization), I think one of those is changing something that nvidia changed to make the drivers work [18:03] ie, telling your system to use default drivers, not the nvidia stuff [18:03] ok yeah, that's what i figured out so far as well [18:03] thing is beyond that I'm clueless as to what to do to fix [18:03] aw [18:03] it would be useful to figure out what nvidia is changing [18:04] more than xorg.conf as far as i know [18:04] knowing that you could poke around the init scripts looking for something that changes it back ;) [18:04] brr :| [18:04] thats my hunch [18:04] argl, i'd be glad to 'downgrade' to my previous version [18:04] I'd ask around nvidia forums... [18:05] yes that's what i'm gonna do now [18:05] thanks for thinking with me [18:05] bmod, alright, to do that, I would just save the stuff in your home dir [18:05] hehe i will [18:05] (if you want to step back) [18:05] but if you are up to it, figure out the problem :) [18:05] and write an faq somewhere, for other lost souls :) [18:06] also see if xubuntu has a bug somewhere on your problem [18:06] i'd be happy to share when i find out [18:06] a good point [18:10] do you know where /etc/init.d/nvidia-kernel comes from? [18:11] bmod, probably from the install of your drivers, or from canonical. See if that is running when you start up [18:12] might simply be that not running ;) [18:12] hehe i hope so! [18:13] people need to comment their scripts more! [18:15] bmod, hah :) thing is I don't think that script is by open source devs [18:15] I could be wrong [18:15] well there is comment there like: # How many cards? [18:15] hey ubuntu123 how do I turn on colors in vim again? [18:16] I have the full version [18:16] Its :set something [18:16] I thought it was :set color [18:16] does /etc/rc5.d correspond with tty 5 ? [18:17] nevermind [18:17] "syn on" works [18:17] hah alright :) sorry not paying attention :) [18:18] writing a C++ wrapper over popen at the moment [18:22] what distro (ubuntu/debian) based would you recommend if i want a really minimal install? i only need xchat, gimp, OO.org, mail and webbrowser, and compiz:P [18:23] ubuntu server edition [18:23] xfce or some other light DM that can work with compiz.. (cant stand gnome og kde.. to much crap there i dont need that just takes up space) [18:23] compiz is not exaclty minimal :) [18:23] that way you can install x windows the way you want to as well [18:23] ubuntu123, iknow.. but when im working in gimp with many files, compiz is just great with it app swticher stuff:P [18:24] i was thinking e17 maybe, but tryed it a few times, was so unstable.. .. and i like xfce so much:P [18:24] ubuntu server ed.. comes without x.org right? [18:25] brick_, if not, you can always install it :) [18:25] brick_: yup [18:26] iknow. i was thinking of arch linux, but couldnt get the hang off it. struggeled long time to get the x working, its a bit to much "config" for me. dont have time to play around. just want a clean, minimal "up and working" system:P hhe [18:27] xubuntu is great, using it right now. but it comes with so much preinstalled. [18:27] what about suse? is there a suse distro that comes with xfce? or must i install opensuse with kde and then remove it? [18:33] well... [18:34] i like xubuntu because it gives you a lot of frills..and its debian-based [18:42] does anyone know how to make the volume control buttons functional in xfce? [18:46] Im having issues as well radioatkivstorm [18:46] :( [18:46] I think it's a bug, because I have two PC's with xubuntu and both won't display the volume control [18:47] once in a blue moon it will actually work [18:47] but it goes away after a reboot [18:48] sleepwal1, hmm thats strange, it used to work in feisty. :( [18:49] i checked in the keyboard shortcuts and i discovered that aumix, the program that is supposed to control the volume wasnt installed on my computer [18:50] still i cannot get the volume to work [19:04] if you have an url with a space in it, will it attempt to resolvE? [19:15] hallo any1 here [19:15] hi [19:16] :/ im having a ton of issues with ffmpeg on PPC [19:16] im trying to convert avi+xvid files to psp mp4 format and i keep getting this obscure error [19:16] http://pastebin.com/d571a6c06 [19:16] i even went as far as compiling SVN from source with all the extra libs [19:17] this command works perfectly on my x86 desktop so what gives? [19:40] hello [19:44] hello === FlashWolf|out is now known as FlashWolf === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [20:20] jjmiv: welcome back [20:31] hey bmod any luck? (this is ubuntu123) [20:43] hey room [20:43] hello, need help? [20:47] just trying to figure out the best way to install e17 [21:00] alyx: what information you using for that e17 install? I've never tried it before might try using it myself though [21:09] alyx: wow enlightenment looks weird there like some beginner guide or ubuntu howto for it that might help? I was all like fighting my menu getting slapped around by my application icons. Although I brought up firefox and it seemed very snappy in performance [21:09] I mean moving the window around and all [22:42] hey everybody, i have a process running as root: /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg [22:43] looked similar to a malicious code warning i saw on a forum. does this look dangerous to anyone? [22:44] somebody knows a fisheye dock for linux? [22:44] like rocketdock for windows [22:45] FlashWolf: haha they finally got something to compete with avant and kiba [22:46] gerro: oO [22:46] what? [22:46] oh [22:46] are avant and kiba fisheye docks for linux-based os? [22:46] Flashwolf: yeah [22:46] don't know what you mean by fisheye [22:47] zoom [22:47] eyecandyish [22:47] Flashwolf: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/ and http://www.kiba-dock.org/ [22:47] should be in the repository though [22:48] fisheye is a name that specifies a list of items with zoom effects [22:48] or more [22:48] does kiba work in xubuntu? [22:48] sure, mas o menos [22:48] anything linux based works in xubuntu [22:49] i'd installed it yesterday here and got a empty white rect [22:49] crimsun: sure or "mas o menos"? [22:49] you probably have to configure its settings, try ls -a then look for a hidden config file in your home directory [22:49] or install its editor program [22:51] FlashWolf: both. There's no ambiguity. A program either does or doesn't. [22:52] crimsun: "mas o menos" means "maybe", "more or less" [22:52] I know. [22:53] so... [22:53] note how it's not "yes" or "no" [22:53] "sure" != "maybe", right? [22:53] how about interpreting it as "yes, it works, but the configuration takes some finagling"? [22:54] ok. lets quit talking about spanish/english issues [22:54] :) [22:55] my dock's in english... [22:55] oh and I just ran this ubuntu 7.10 server install and can't get ethernet up [22:56] gerro: arent u american/english? [22:56] it wasn't plugged in when I installed so no clue how to do it myself now [22:56] FlashWolf: yeah I live in the western hemisphere, its night here [22:56] can anyone tell me what this command is doing? [22:57] /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg [22:57] gerro: me too. brazil. night here too. [22:58] its writing 1 to bs file if it gets a kmsg output relating to /proc? I don't know just guessing [22:58]