[00:00] <t4m1n0> how can I print ppt document so there is more than one slide on a list ?
[00:00] <mks> joo this is in ingles
[00:00] <skyfalcon866> how do i get 3d effects in kubuntu
[00:00] <ardchoille> !es | mks
[00:00] <ubotu> mks: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[00:01] <mks> ok gracias ;)
[00:01] <ardchoille> skyfalcon866: You can use the composite manager included with kde or you can use compiz-fusion
[00:01] <skyfalcon866> whats better
[00:01] <ardchoille> !compiz | skyfalcon866
[00:01] <ubotu> skyfalcon866: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[00:02] <ardchoille> skyfalcon866: Only you can answer that. I like kcompmgr and dislike compiz
[00:02] <skyfalcon866> can you zoom in
[00:02] <skyfalcon866> in kcompmgr
[00:03] <skyfalcon866> !kcompmgr
[00:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcompmgr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:04] <ardchoille> Sorry, it's kompmgr
[00:04] <Xero> !kompmgr
[00:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kompmgr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:04] <Xero> well crap
[00:04] <muimota__> I've been looking /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages and I haven't found anything helpfull
[00:05] <ardchoille> muimota__: Would you know it if you found it?
[00:06] <Radi01> !info kompmgr
[00:06] <ubotu> Package kompmgr does not exist in gutsy
[00:06] <ardchoille> Radi01: It's part of kde, it's not a package
[00:06] <Radi01> oh
[00:06] <muimota__> well I was looking for some kind of !error or somthng like taht I just have found a wrnig related with dhcp
[00:07] <ardchoille> muimota__: You can do things like: grep fail /var/log/syslog
[00:08] <skyfalcon866> is ubuntu faster than kubuntu
[00:09] <Xero> skyfalcon866, GNOME is slightly lighter than KDE, but that doesn't make it better or faster.
[00:10] <muimota__> ok, thanks ardchoille
[00:10] <ardchoille> Learning the command line has its advantages :)
[00:12] <muimota__> ardchoille:http://pastebin.ca/803986
[00:14] <ardchoille> muimota__: You have a USB hard drive?
[00:14] <Xero> My BIOS has problems with those.
[00:14] <Xero> Makes me think I've bricked my PC.
[00:15] <Xero> Oh noes. A r00t
[00:15] <draik> Aaahhhh... The joys of having nobody call.
[00:15] <muimota__> yes but right now it's not plugged in
[00:15] <Radi01> lol draik  dsl ok today?
[00:15] <Xero> Does anyone recommend flashing a new BIOS to this computer?
[00:16] <ardchoille> muimota__: Is this a laptop?
[00:16] <Xero> If so, what's a tool for doing it on Linux?
[00:16] <draik> Radi01: I have learned to just laugh like a maniac when somone calls, if that counts.
[00:16] <Radi01> haha
[00:16] <muimota__> ardchoille: no is a P4 1,7ghz 512Mb desktop computer
[00:16] <draik> ardchoille: I left our channel
[00:16] <ardchoille> draik: ok
[00:17] <Radi01> i just put the (you have dialed an un asigned number) on my answering machine.
[00:17] <ardchoille> muimota__: Have you tried adding acpi=off to the kernel line of /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[00:17] <muimota__> no, I'll do it right now
[00:17] <muimota__> acpi is for power saving no?
[00:17] <draik> Ok? Now my cell phone just restarted at random.
[00:18] <ardchoille> muimota__: What's happening is you are experiencing a hardware problem. Have you changed/added/remove hardware lately?
[00:18] <draik> I hope that's not the new sign of a call coming into the house
[00:18] <ardchoille> muimota__: It's some laptop features
[00:18]  * ardchoille calls draik 
[00:18] <ardchoille> :P
[00:19] <muimota__> ardchoille:no, I haven't the computer worked really well till around Friday
[00:19]  * draik has ardchoille in the crosshairs of his scope
[00:19] <ardchoille> Eek!
[00:19] <ardchoille> muimota__: Change anything around Friday?
[00:20] <draik> Well, I'm going to logoff Konversation and return this half of the bit (yes bit, not byte) of data transfers.
[00:21] <Radi01> lol
[00:21] <muimota__> ardchoille no I haven't may an upgrade from kubuntu, all the software comes from kubuntu's repositories
[00:24] <kendall> Hi.  Kubuntu n00b here.  When I get the error message "no plugin found to handle this resource (dvd://)", where can I go to get the plugin I need?
[00:24] <Radi01> playing dvd?
[00:24] <benpicco> kendall: you prophaly need libdvdcss
[00:24] <kendall> trying to, yes.
[00:25] <Radi01> ^
[00:25] <Radi01> midibuntu
[00:25] <kendall> ok, and where do I find that?
[00:25] <Radi01> or what ver its called
[00:25] <GrahamA> kendall: I assume it's a comercial encrypted DVD
[00:25] <kendall> is it on my kubuntuinstall disc?
[00:25] <ardchoille> !medibuntu
[00:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[00:25] <GrahamA> kendall: I have the .deb lemme find the link
[00:25] <kendall> no, burned it myself
[00:25] <GrahamA> Don't use medibuntu because it's horrificly slow.
[00:25] <kendall> in winxp
[00:26] <ardchoille> GrahamA: medibuntu is quite fast for me.
[00:26] <kendall> Kaffeine Player
[00:26] <GrahamA> Have you installed the kubuntu-restricted extras package
[00:26] <GrahamA> ardchoille: You from the US?
[00:26] <benpicco> try adding deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:26] <GrahamA> kendall: Install that and libdvdread
[00:26] <kendall> I just let it install all oon its own, GrahamA
[00:26] <GrahamA> kendall: I don't mean as an option on first install, I mean go into adept and do it.
[00:27] <GrahamA> ardchoille: I'm from the UK so maybe why but I only get about 20kbs from it.
[00:27] <kendall> ok, remember, I'm a total n00b.  just booted about 5 minutes ago, for the first time from the HD.
[00:27] <kendall> lemme go try ad find it
[00:28] <GrahamA> kendall: k menu, system, adept manager
[00:28] <kendall> yeah, found it
[00:29] <GrahamA> Wonderful.
[00:29] <Kr4t05> I need a GUI app that can convert m4a files to MP3.
[00:29] <ardchoille> GrahamA: Ah,ok
[00:29] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: Consider Konvertor
[00:29] <GrahamA> I think...
[00:29] <GrahamA> lemme check.
[00:30] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: soundkonvertor
[00:30] <GrahamA> You need to install some backends too.
[00:31] <Kr4t05> Thanks
[00:31] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: And consider converting them to ogg vorbis instead :)
[00:31] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: Can't... :/
[00:31] <kendall> ok, GrahamA, got adept open, and looking for the kubuntu-restricted extras package you mentioned, but don't see it on the list
[00:31] <LjL> converting a comrpessed format to a compressed format? ugh
[00:31] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: Is it for a music player or something?
[00:31] <Kr4t05> Amarok, for some reason, bugs out when I try to sync oggs to my DAP.
[00:31] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: Yeah.
[00:31] <Kr4t05> Well, at the moment, I'm making backups.
[00:31] <GrahamA> becacse it's called kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:32] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: What music player do you have?
[00:32] <GrahamA> Does it actually support .ogg or won't amarok copy them over?
[00:32] <Kr4t05> iAudio F2, and yes, I know it plays Oggs.
[00:32] <Kr4t05> Amarok just won't copy them over.
[00:32] <Kr4t05> It's a bug in the current build, I think.
[00:33] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: How much space is it, is it good quality, price and would you recommend it?
[00:33] <kendall> nothing on the list called kububtu-restricted-extras, or anything even remotely like it.  let me look around some more.
[00:34] <GrahamA> kendall: You realise you can just type kubuntu into the search box and it'll show up in a much smaller list?
[00:34] <kendall> do I need to "fetch updates"?
[00:34] <GrahamA> Yes you do.
[00:34] <kendall> ah, no, I hadn't figured that out, yet, thanks
[00:34] <Kr4t05> F2 comes in two (three?) sizes, 2GB,4GB(8GB), Fairly decent player for under $200, has a photo and text view, and also has builtin mic and line-in recording.
[00:34] <ardchoille> kendall: Updates is something you should check for and install on a daily basis.
[00:34] <kendall> ok, I'll fetch away....
[00:34] <kendall> daily?
[00:34] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: Check Cowon's site.
[00:34] <kendall> oh my.
[00:34] <kendall> heehee
[00:35] <GrahamA> No just when you're getting packages.
[00:35] <GrahamA> Adept notifier automaticly does a check for upgradeable packages.
[00:35] <ardchoille> Updates is something you should check for and install on a daily basis.
[00:35] <GrahamA> It'll probably pop up after you check.
[00:35] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: Could you link me please?
[00:35] <ardchoille> GrahamA: I don't trust adept. it never shows updates until I manually do: sudo apt-get update
[00:35] <Kr4t05> Adept Notifier bugs out when I run compiz.
[00:36] <ardchoille> Then it pops up telling me there are updates
[00:36] <ardchoille> But, by then I already know about them.
[00:36] <GrahamA> ardchoille: That's odd...
[00:36] <GrahamA> Works for me.
[00:37] <Kr4t05> http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/f2/ -- Has video support, but the transcode method is a bit obscure. I have to write a script for it using snippets from various forums.
[00:37] <kendall> ok, I fetched, still no kubuntu-restricted anything on the list.....
[00:37] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: A decent player, though.
[00:37] <ardchoille> kendall: Whic release of kubuntu are you using?
[00:38] <kendall> 7.04
[00:38] <Kr4t05> To be honest... And this may get me skinned, but I kinda wish someone would hack up support for Zunes in the near future. :/
[00:38] <ardchoille> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras Feisty
[00:38] <ubotu> Package kubuntu-restricted-extras does not exist in feisty
[00:38] <ardchoille> kendall: ^^ :)
[00:38] <ardchoille> That's why
[00:38] <Kr4t05> They look... decent, even for a Microsoft product.
[00:38] <kendall> ok
[00:39] <kendall> so, do I need to acquire that?
[00:39] <Radi01> time for 7.10
[00:39] <benpicco> you could upgrade to 7.10
[00:39] <ardchoille> kendall: My advice is to upgrade to Gutsy or simply do without restricted extras. What exactly are you trying to do?
[00:39] <kendall> shouldn't 7.04 be able to play a DVD?
[00:39] <Radi01> geter done.
[00:39] <kendall> well, for one, play a DVD, just as a test
[00:39] <ardchoille> kendall: It can, I have been watching dvd's in kubuntu since Dapper
[00:40] <ardchoille> kendall: You need to install some things..
[00:40] <Radi01> vlc does
[00:40] <kendall> 7.04 is "Feisty", then?
[00:40] <kendall> ok, how do I know what to install, ardchoille?
[00:40] <ardchoille> kendall: Yes, Feisty
[00:41] <ardchoille> kendall: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread3 libdvdnav4
[00:41] <kendall> eek!
[00:41] <Radi01> lol
[00:41] <kendall> remember, total n00b
[00:41] <ardchoille> kendall: You will also need libdvdcss2 but it's only available from the medibuntu repo, you need to use medibuntu
[00:41] <GrahamA> kendall: You're on feisty?
[00:41] <kendall> yes
[00:41] <GrahamA> Install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:42] <kendall> there aren't any
[00:42] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: Bearing in mind, the software that comes with that DAP is Windows-only and bad quality at that.
[00:42] <GrahamA> DAP?
[00:42] <rose> nick marie1116
[00:42] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: MP3 Player
[00:42] <GrahamA> Kr4t05: Eventually I'll get round to finding a Linux compatible non-Aplle MUSIC player.
[00:42] <ardchoille> kendall: Open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libdvdread3 libdvdnav4
[00:43] <kendall> ardchoille: , where do I enter that command, in adept?
[00:43] <Kr4t05> GrahamA: Cowon and Archos are as good as you get, really.
[00:43] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | kendall
[00:43] <ubotu> kendall: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[00:43] <Kr4t05> Sansa's are okay, too, but they lack a good bit.
[00:43] <ardchoille> kendall: No, "open a terminal.."
[00:43] <kendall> ah, thanks
[00:43] <GrahamA> kendall: Do what ardchoille said and it'll work.
[00:43] <benpicco> kendall: try sudo echo deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free > /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:43] <Radi01> cowen is a good player?
[00:43] <kendall> ok, but where do I type in the command?
[00:43] <Radi01> cowon
[00:43] <kendall> ah
[00:43] <kendall> terminal
[00:44] <kendall> ok, lemme give it a go
[00:44] <ardchoille> benpicco: First of all, that will fail, sudo doesn't handle redirection like that, Secondly, he also needs the medibuntu repo key
[00:44] <Kr4t05> Radi01: Cowon is a company that makes media players. They're good players that boast "Linux support."
[00:44] <Kr4t05> Even if it's an afterthough.
[00:44] <ardchoille> mplayer is the best, IMHO
[00:44] <Kr4t05> afterthought*
[00:44] <Radi01> ah  which ones are good in kde besides Amarok
[00:45] <Kr4t05> ardchoille: We're talking hardware players, portable devices.
[00:45] <ardchoille> Kr4t05: Ah, ok
[00:45] <Radi01> Amarok chokes too much.
[00:45] <GrahamA> Amarok is hands down the best music player I've ever used.
[00:45] <Kr4t05> Radi01: Um? I'm talking about MP3 players.
[00:45] <GrahamA> Winamp barely holds a candle to it.
[00:45] <Radi01> ya
[00:45] <Kr4t05> Radi01: You could try JuK
[00:45] <Radi01> oh ok
[00:46] <Kr4t05> Or, maybe Exaile, but it's GTK.
[00:46] <ardchoille> kendall: Let me know if you need further help :)
[00:46] <Radi01> winamp stunk..aol took over.
[00:46] <Kr4t05> Songbird is still prerelease, but it's coming along.
[00:46] <ardchoille> Radi01: lol
[00:46] <Radi01> snickers.
[00:46] <ardchoille> Wow, the mozilla team really had "bird" brains, lol
[00:47] <ardchoille> Firebird, Thunderbird, Songbird I wonder what the calendar will be named.
[00:47] <Lunar_Lamp_> I'm following the instructions at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php - it has information for kdm, but I use gdm at the moment.  How can I configure GDM to start the KDE4 session, so I don't need to replace GDM?
[00:47] <Radi01> afterbird
[00:47] <Dragnslcr> ardchoille- Sunbird
[00:47] <ardchoille> hahaha
[00:47] <ardchoille> Dragnslcr: Ah, figures
[00:48] <Dragnslcr> At least that's the client, I think. Dunno if they'd name a server something else
[00:48] <somekool> Lunar_Lamp_: let me know if you get it to work.... I had missing packages here, I could not complete the install
[00:48] <ardchoille> They should release a suite with all the *bird apps and call it Nest
[00:48] <ardchoille> Get it.. nest?
[00:48] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[00:48] <Radi01> ya
[00:48]  * ardchoille giggles
[00:49] <Lunar_Lamp_> somekool, well, the install seems to be working ok, but I'm using kdm I decided.
[00:51] <Lunar_Lamp_> Hmm, somekool, yes kdm-kde4 seems to have issues
[00:52] <ardchoille> Of course it does, it's an rc.. yo should expect lots of issues
[00:52] <Lunar_Lamp_> Not with being missing, but with being configured.
[00:52] <Lunar_Lamp_> ardchoille, I was agreeing with somekool that a package has an issue. Don't get all defensive...
[00:53] <Lunar_Lamp_> I'm now about to attempt to track down what's causing the issue
[00:53] <ardchoille> hehe, defensive
[00:53] <Radi01> lunar it was an explanation..was not hostile at all..calm down buddy.
[00:54] <Lunar_Lamp_> Hmm, sorry, perhaps I just misinterpreted.
[00:55] <Radi01> we are all learning this stuff..that happens..
[00:55] <somekool> I was not talking about software issues in KDE4, but packaging issues with the deb files, packages were missing or something ...
[00:55] <ardchoille> Most of what I learned about kubuntu was leanred right here i this channel by watching others. This channel rocks!
[00:56] <ardchoille> Too bad I never learned how to type, lol
[00:56] <see-g> hi ... without knowing too much about kubuntu 7.10's history, I've got a strange behavior here: After installing Kubuntu from the desktop-CD, the installation of GRUB to hd3 (changed from default: hd0) failed. When booting from the CD again, without changing any settings, I end up in a busybox...
[00:56] <Radi01> I would rather learn linux than support buddy bill....any day.
[00:56] <Lunar_Lamp_> somekool, yes, I don't have that issue, but there are problems (it appears) with the packaging of kdm-kde4 as the configure doesn't appear to work :-)
[00:56] <ardchoille> Radi01: Indeed
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> Lunar_Lamp_: you don't need that package.... and it seems to conflict with the normal kdm. and kubuntu depends on kdm.
[00:56] <Radi01> Think of all the money I wasted..wow.
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> and thats not good
[00:57] <nosrednaekim> BBIAB
[00:57] <Lunar_Lamp_> nosrednaekim, I don't have kde installed ;-)
[00:57] <Lunar_Lamp_> (er, that is, normal kde - I have gnome from default ubuntu - I'm not coming from a kubuntu install)
[00:58] <somekool> I am currently building my first .deb file and I am having little troubles. well, actually, I've went through all the necessary steps as far as the howto I followed is concerned. but the process gets interrupted because of linking errors ??? but it compiles with a regular ./configure;make .... is there -l flags to add somewhere? why I am getting linking errors like that? I've put all the necessary dependencies in control
[00:58] <ardchoille> somekool: Tis may be a dumb question, but do you have all the necessary deps installed on your system?
[00:59] <somekool> ardchoille: yes, cuz it compiles fine with a regular ./configure;make , like I said.
[00:59] <ardchoille> A
[00:59] <ardchoille> h
[01:00] <somekool> and I had put all the depends in the control file
[01:00] <somekool> it says not to modify the rules file for a regular compile
[01:00] <somekool> i dont know why I am getting all these linking errors ... ??
[01:03] <ardchoille> http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry1862.html
[01:04] <ardchoille> [Hardy Heron fixes existing features]
[01:05] <somekool> I followed this
[01:05] <somekool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[01:05] <somekool> anyone would know why am I getting those linking errors?
[01:06] <joey722> i tried to execute fop from php to generate pdf...... i used exec and system with no result... i found this article in french in wich they give a function to call fop as external program... i don't know how to make it work...please can you help me on that
[01:06] <joey722> http://www.infos-du-net.com/forum/263940-21-creation-fichier-avec#t101162
[01:07] <kendall> ok, GrahamA and ardchoille, I'm wandering around looking for libdvdcss, and I've gome to the vlc website.  Would it be easier to just get the vlc player and install that?
[01:07] <posingaspopular> kendall: vls is great for playing all sorts of codecs
[01:08] <kendall> ok, so, yes?
[01:08] <posingaspopular> yes
[01:08] <kendall> thanks
[01:08] <posingaspopular> np
[01:08] <crackhead_25_> can anyone help me get my lacie external hard drive mounting in kubuntu? it was automounting fine last week. now it doesn't recognize. i'm sure there's data on it, though.
[01:08] <LjL> kendall, i'm under the impression that you're considering downloading VLC from the site, but VLC is available from the repositories (universe, specifically), you can install it with just « sudo apt-get install vlc »
[01:09] <ardchoille> kendall: Yes, try out vlc, it's quite nice.
[01:09] <kendall> ah, ok, I'll try that, thank you, LjL
[01:09] <kendall> thanks ardchoille.  I'll get the hang of this yet....
[01:10] <GrahamA> I like Kaffeine better but whatever.
[01:10] <ardchoille> kendall: If you find you still need to install libdvdcss2 and need a hand, I can help with medibuntu
[01:10] <GrahamA> I'm gona go sleep.
[01:10] <ardchoille> GrahamA: vlc is nice, but I can't use it.. it doesn't support closed captions. Everyone has their favourite :)
[01:11] <kendall> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:11] <kendall> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:11] <kendall> perhaps I'm doing it wrong.....
[01:11] <ardchoille> kendall: Close any other pm's that are open
[01:11] <kendall> ok
[01:12] <ardchoille> kendall: adept, synaptic, aptitude, etc are all front-ends to APT.. and only one of them can use the apt db at a time
[01:15] <kendall> ok, it seems to be installing, now
[01:15] <ardchoille> kendall: What is installing"
[01:15] <ardchoille> ?
[01:17] <kendall> ardchoille: , vlc player
[01:17] <ardchoille> ok
[01:17] <Radi01> nice  you will like it kendall
[01:17] <kendall> thanks
[01:17] <Radi01> plays most everything out of the box.
[01:17] <kendall> good
[01:18] <Radi01> Use that till you get to know the rest of player codec.
[01:18] <kendall> my eventual plan is to have this box as a home entertainment media server/DVR
[01:18] <kendall> got a lot of learning to do, though.....
[01:18] <ardchoille> kendall: That's what I did with one of my computers.
[01:18] <Kasplatt> what is the difference between the CD .iso and the .DVD iso ?
[01:18] <kendall> nice
[01:19] <kendall> ....and it'll be networked
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: the DVD has more packages on it.
[01:19] <ardchoille> Kasplatt: The dvd iso is a compilation of the desktop and alternate cd's
[01:19] <kendall> transfer iso images over the network, play them from the HD
[01:19] <Kasplatt> ah okay , so the DVD is better ?
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: I think it has more than that...
[01:19] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Not according to the ubuntu article I read
[01:19] <Kasplatt> or just filled with crap ?
[01:20] <ardchoille> But, the article could have been wrong.
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: prettymuch :D
[01:20] <Radi01> lo,  its not a windows cd
[01:20] <Kasplatt> nosrednaekim better :P ?
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: i'd get the cd and insta;; what you need from there
[01:20] <Kasplatt> ah okay hehe ;)
[01:20] <ardchoille> Kasplatt: Anything on the dvd will also be in ther repos anyway
[01:20] <Kasplatt> okay :)
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: it was my understanding that the DVD had a lot of extra packages... but I may be wrong.
[01:21] <Kasplatt> you don't have a mirror for Faroe Islands for kubuntu ?? I remember xubuntu had ..
[01:21] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: no biggie, it's all in the repos :)
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: if xubuntu did, yes, Kubuntu does.
[01:21] <Kasplatt> I can't find it ...
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: hrm.... I think I read an article about you guys in the faroe islands on Linux.com
[01:22] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: What they should release, IMHO, is a very small net install cd.. something like 100Mb just to get the system running and install the rest from the repos. But I guess that would increase the load on the repo servers.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: yeah, they don't want to do that.,,,, esp around a release date XD
[01:22] <Radi01> yua
[01:22] <Kasplatt> nosrednaekim what did it say ?
[01:22] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Ah, right
[01:23] <NickPresta> Any idea about the "no buffer space available" message when trying to resume a disk image after an expected power failure?
[01:23] <scrubb2000> Could someone tell me what the console command is to check which groups a user belongs to?
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: something about your whole system is linux, and you have only satelite internet
[01:23] <Kasplatt> our whole system ??
[01:23] <ardchoille> scrubb2000: cat /etc/groups | grep <username_here>
[01:24] <ardchoille> Oops, that's /etc/group
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: maybe it wasn't the Faroe Islands... never mind :D
[01:25] <scrubb2000> ardchoille: "No such file or directory"....
[01:25] <Kasplatt> cant find the faroese mirrors ..
[01:25] <Kasplatt> nosrednaekim hehe okay
[01:25] <ardchoille> scrubb2000: cat /etc/group | grep <username_here>
[01:26] <Kasplatt> nosrednaekim is there any difference in any of the distros for each mirror ?
[01:26] <Radi01> I often wondered that.
[01:27] <kendall> hm.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: shouldn't be... if its an official ubuntu mirror it'll have everything/.
[01:27] <Kasplatt> okay
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> ah... it was "New Caldonia "lol
[01:27] <kendall> do I need to reboot after installing vlc?  I tried to start it up,  and it dumped me completely out of the desktop and restarted.....
[01:28] <Kasplatt> kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso for normal pcs  . .right ?
[01:28] <ardchoille> kendall: Shouldn't need a reboot for that, no
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: yup
[01:28] <kendall> hm.
[01:28] <Kasplatt> k
[01:28] <kendall> ok, well I'm installing updates now, so I won't chance starting vlc 'til I'm done
[01:28] <trillis> How can I get VLC to play videos that are streaming from webpages?
[01:28] <ardchoille> kendall: reboots in Linux are rare
[01:29] <kendall> so, I had my first crash, then?
[01:29] <kendall> woohoo!
[01:29] <Radi01> mozilla -vlc plugins trillis
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> :D
[01:29]  * trillis has had to reboot with linux 11 times in the last two days.
[01:29] <amanda> Hi...
[01:29]  * trillis runs
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> trillis: why?
[01:30] <trillis> Exercise. :-D.
[01:30] <Radi01> lol
[01:30] <kendall> good enuf reason.
[01:30] <amanda> Is anyone here using VirtualBox? I'm trying to get my Lexmark printer working in a Windows VM
[01:30] <Radi01> yout 2 much trillis.
[01:30] <ardchoille> trillis: I'd guess that at least 10 of those reboots were unnecessary
[01:30] <Kasplatt> trillis huhh ??
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> amanda: you'll need to get the non OSE edition
[01:30] <amanda> nosrednaekim: check
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> amanda: you have that?
[01:30] <amanda> yep
[01:31] <trillis> Well, my wireless internet dies on me randomely, and the only way for some reason to get it to work again is rebooting.
[01:31] <amanda> Not sure where to go from there
[01:31] <kendall> I look forward to the day when the things you guys say aren't totally foreign to me.
[01:31] <trillis> I'm right there with you kendall.
[01:31] <ardchoille> kendall: hehe
[01:31] <kendall> heh
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> amanda: yeah. i'm not too familiar with USB and VB... I got it working in Vmware though..
[01:31] <Radi01> Stick with it kendall it will come.
[01:31] <trillis> So do I type sudo apt-get mozilla -vlc plugin?
[01:31] <kendall> yeah, I intend to.
[01:31] <amanda> trillis: You already tried "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" and/or "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"?
[01:32]  * trillis blinks...
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> trillis: yeah... the dbus one works for me :D
[01:32] <kendall> glad I'm not the only n00b here.
[01:32] <amanda> nosrednaekim: Might you point me to a good VMWare-on-Gutsy how-to?
[01:32] <trillis> Hehe.
[01:32] <trillis> I r nub.
[01:32] <ardchoille> trillis: sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> !vmware
[01:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:32] <NickPresta> I recently lost power and my computer unexpected shut down. I now get a "no buffer space available" message from udev/uevent when booting up. Any ideas?
[01:32] <mks>  http://pastebin.ca/804022
[01:32] <trillis> I have vlc, but it doesnt want to play streaming videos for me.
[01:33] <mks> ups si aki no era xD
[01:33] <trillis> !spanish
[01:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[01:33] <Radi01> sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:33] <kendall> looks like I needed to update a lot of stuff.....
[01:33] <amanda> nosrednaekim: Thanks a lot
[01:33] <scrubb2000> So I have a broken installation of XP on one of my partitions, and linux feels it has to check the disk every time it starts up, which takes forever because it uses dosfsck.  Can I get linux to stop checking this partition at startup somehow?
[01:33] <Radi01> do it..(now).
[01:33] <Radi01> lol
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> scrubb2000: remove it from the fstab
[01:33] <scrubb2000> nosrednaekim: how do I do that?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> !fstab
[01:34] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:35]  * trillis despises mplayer
[01:35] <kendall> so, in general, is there ever a time when I want to choose not to auto-update stuff?  I know that in WinXP, I chose not to install some stuff, unless I knew for certain it was needed for security or functionality.  Is there cases in kubuntu where I want to selectively not install updates?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> kendall: try not to do kernel updates..
[01:35] <amanda> Thanks again, nosrednaekim. Peace
[01:35] <kendall> ah
[01:35] <kendall> good info
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> unless something isn't working
[01:35] <kendall> ok, well I'm not sure if I'm currently updating my kernel or not.
[01:36] <kendall> we'll see.
[01:36] <Radi01> ya good info...no wonder i had to re-install ubuntu 5 times.
[01:36] <nwonknu> Are there instructions for configuring D-Link DWL-G132 (usb wireless network adapter using atheros chipset) ?
[01:36] <Radi01> lol
[01:36] <ardchoille> kendall: Usually the kernel won't update unless you do a dist-upgrade
[01:36] <kendall> I just let the auto-updater go do it's thing.
[01:36] <kendall> aha
[01:36] <kendall> more good info.
[01:36] <kendall> thanks
[01:36] <kendall> so, is there a compelling reason to upgrade to 7.10?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> nwonknu: you'll need to use ndiswrapper
[01:37] <Radi01> yes..better.
[01:37] <kendall> or will 7.04 work for me?
[01:37]  * trillis is using dapper
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> kendall: 7.04 should be fine
[01:37] <kendall> ok
[01:37] <trillis> uhm..
[01:37] <trillis> Installing that plugin didn't help me.
[01:37] <Radi01> ?
[01:37] <vbgunz> anyone know of a replacement player for quicktime movies in Konqueror? is there anything better than mplayer or xine or something more compatible? watching trailers on apple blow chunks :(
[01:37] <nwonknu> nosrednaekim: yes, ndiswrapper, but are there detailed instructions?  How good in kubuntu's wireless support out of the box?
[01:37] <ardchoille> kendall: Some advice. Thought a gui is good and easy, there are advantages to learning the command line, one of which is that the cli is the only thing you'll have left if xorg, kdm, or your desktop env breaks. The command line is fast and powerful, not to mentio easily scriptable.
[01:38] <kendall> so, why the codenames?  Is 7.04 not descriptive enough?
[01:38] <trillis> Mozilla still wants me to "Click here to download plugin" When trying to watch streaming vids.
[01:38] <level1> Hi, kmail is refusing to retrieve some messages from my gmail account.  Usually it works, but sometimes it refuses to download the mail for a few days; it just acts as if there are no new messages.  I can see from gmail's web interface that the mails are there; but kmail won't download them
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> nwonknu: not that good, but with ndiswrapper,it may work.
[01:38] <Radi01> your useing dapper so i couldnt tell ya trillis..
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> level1: POP or IMAP?
[01:38] <trillis> :(
[01:38] <kendall> thanks, ardchoille, I imagine I'll need to, yes.  But for now, I'm not anywhere ready for that.
[01:38] <nwonknu> nosrednaekim: I got it working on opensuse, but it was a major pain.  Looking for an easier distro.
[01:38] <Radi01> click and see what it wants trillis
[01:38] <ardchoille> trillis: There was a recent article about a virus/worm going around that asked you to download a file in order to watch a video, I wouldn't trust it.
[01:39] <somekool> i dont get it ... kdelibs4-dev  is for KDE 3 and kdelibs5-dev is for KDE 4 ????
[01:39] <trillis> Mozilla can't find it anyway.
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> nwonknu: well, if you use ndiswrapper, it shouldn't be too hard
[01:39] <level1> nosrednaekim: POP3... I'm reluctant to convert to IMAP because I'm not sure if it will cause problems, and I will not have enough space to back up my emails for about a week
[01:39] <Radi01> really? ardchoille?
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> somekool: lol :D
[01:39] <ardchoille> Radi01: Yes
[01:39] <Radi01> linux virus?
[01:39]  * trillis is using ubuntu 6.0something.
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> level1: ah.. ok, POP is more reliable anyway,but no I have no clue. I've never had a problem like thta
[01:40] <level1> trillis: 6.06?  ancient!
[01:40]  * kendall feels superior to trillis
[01:40] <Radi01> lol
[01:40] <nwonknu> nosrednaekim: ok thanks.  sounds like it's the same basic deal I went through with the other distro.
[01:40] <ardchoille> Radi01: A linux virus is not impossible, and won't do much harm, but I value my $HOME farmore than the rest of the system.
[01:40] <somekool> nosrednaekim: anything smart to say ?
[01:40] <level1> nosrednaekim: what's the advantage of IMAP?
[01:40] <Radi01> Thanx i didnt know of that 1
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> somekool: ummmm "it is how it is"
[01:40] <dairien> Can someone help me with KNetworkManager please?
[01:40] <kubuntunewbie> is it possible to attach a printer that is hosted from an xp machine?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> dairien: what is the problem?
[01:41] <trillis> Well, I just bought a new comp from a University, and it didn't have an OS so I found an old CD of Kubuntu and was like... Hey...
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: yes... you need samba
[01:41] <somekool> so that's how it is ?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> somekool: yuppers
[01:41] <dairien> When I left click the icon on my dock, everything is greyed out and it says Device: No active device
[01:41] <Radi01> cool trillis neat.
[01:41] <kubuntunewbie> !info samba
[01:41] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[01:41] <trillis> Isn't there a way I can feed the link to VLC and have it play it?
[01:41] <dairien> I am unable to connect wirelessly to my router although I connected yesterday to my friends after we installed kubuntu.
[01:42] <level1> trillis: if you want, you can upgrade... I find that the newest stable ubuntu release is the most sane to use, contrary to the logic that old things are stable
[01:42] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: is that served theu the apt-get thingey?
[01:42] <trillis> I do I upgrade?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: you can get it from there, yes
[01:42]  * trillis doesn't want to use gnome.
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> !samba
[01:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:42] <nwonknu> Is there a best/easiest wireless network adapter (or chipset) for kubuntu?  native drivers?
[01:42] <trillis> heheh
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> !hardware | nwonknu
[01:42] <ubotu> nwonknu: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:42] <trillis> I went through this yesterday.
[01:42] <level1> !upgrade | trillis
[01:42] <ubotu> trillis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:43] <trillis> With the wireless problem, took me something like 19 hours to get my wireless usb working.
[01:43] <nwonknu> nosrednaekim: thx
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> dairien: delete all of the stuff out of your "/etc/network/interfaces" fine
[01:43] <Radi01> dapper to gutsy is quite a trip.
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> *file
[01:43] <dairien> I just did that
[01:43] <dairien> kdesu /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[01:43] <trillis> Does it still look the same?
[01:43] <dairien> yes
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> dairien: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> then do a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[01:44] <kendall> ok, 'nother n00b question;  where do I look to see if I can see the other machines on the network (all XP)?
[01:44] <level1> trillis: thats weird. theres no way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10... you might be better off reinstalling
[01:44] <trillis> Internet>Wireless Aisstant?
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> kendall: you'll need samba for that.
[01:45] <dairien> norsednaekim: I did that
[01:45] <trillis> nvm
[01:45]  * kendall sighs
[01:45] <dairien> norsednaekim: Just now
[01:45] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: i installed samba, where does it install to?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> dairien: just now what?
[01:45]  * trillis would then have to spend another 19 hours trying to reconfigure his wireless usb adapter :(
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> !samba | kubuntunewbie
[01:45] <ubotu> kubuntunewbie: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:45] <dairien> norsednaekim: I just did sudo /etc/int.d/dbus restart
[01:45] <level1> trillis: if your using ubuntu (as opposed to kubuntu), you can "get" kubuntu by simply installing kubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <level1> trillis: what brand of wireless card is it?  in 7.10, the restricted drivers manager will help to autoconfigure wireless
[01:46] <trillis> eh...
[01:46] <dairien> norsednaekim: The only thing that happened is now it says my battery is not present even though I am not powered into the wall.
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> dairien: yeah.... thats normal... don'tworry about that.
[01:47] <dairien> norsednaekim: Okay, is there somthing else I should do?
[01:47] <trillis> D-link DWA-130 Wirelss usb
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> dairien: so your not connected via wireless right now?
[01:48] <level1> trillis: personally, I'd upgrade; every time I've upgraded ubuntu I've been happier
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> dairien: just to let you know,knetworkmanager is one of the most hated apps in kubuntu :D
[01:48] <trillis> I'll upgrade later.
[01:48] <level1> except for kmail... kmail still doesn't work for me
[01:48] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: lol
[01:48]  * trillis just wants to fight with vlc now
[01:48] <dairien> norsednaekim: No I am not connected, I am using a different laptop to be on mIRC.
[01:48] <dairien> norsednaekim: I'm sorry everyone hates KNetworkManager, I am new.
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> dairien: does your AP use WPA encryption?
[01:49] <trillis> Dairien: Me too :).
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> *access point
[01:49] <dairien> norsednaekim: Yesterday when I put kubuntu on my computer, KNetworkManager was running fine and it recognized all the wireless connection.
[01:49] <espacious> dairien i use it a little tricky but works with m usb wirlees
[01:49] <ardchoille> Is KNetworkManager only for laptops? I've never used it on any of my 11 PC's
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: only useful for laptops.
[01:49] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[01:49] <dairien> norsednaekim: AP?
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> access point
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> wireless access point
[01:50] <kendall> jeez, only 38% done with updates....
[01:50]  * kendall sighs
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> kendall: could be worse,....I have 26K dial up :D
[01:50] <dairien> norsednaekim: The encryption type is WEP
[01:50] <kendall> eek!
[01:50] <kendall> seriously?
[01:50] <Radi01> wow 26k?
[01:51]  * kendall feels superior to nosrednaekim as well.....
[01:51] <Radi01> I remember those days.
[01:51] <trillis> How are you even chatting?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> dairien: ok, then we might be able to bypass knetworkmanager, grab the package "wlassistant"
[01:51] <kendall> heh, you said "package"....
[01:51] <dairien> norsednaekim: How do I do that?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> dairien: run "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"
[01:52] <trillis> Radi01: Do you know if VLC has some sort of configuration in the preferences of vlc so I can feed it a link to the movie? Or am I dreaming?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> trillis: its possible......
[01:52] <dairien> norsednaekim: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update to try with --fix-missing
[01:52] <Radi01> not that i know of trillis/ its out of the box working
[01:52] <dairien> norsednaekim: is what konsole said
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> dairien: run "sudo apt-get update"
[01:53] <kendall> hm?
[01:53] <trillis> Dairien: K Menu>System>Konsole if you didn't know...
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> trillis: he knows XD
[01:53] <dairien> Yes, I have it bound to f12, thank you.
[01:53] <trillis> Could you elaborate nosrednaekim?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> trillis: on what?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> dairien: oh... now thats what I call a power user :D
[01:54] <dairien> norsednaekim: Should I run WLAssistant now?
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> dairien: run "sudo apt-get install wlassistant"
[01:55] <dairien> norsednaekim: Done.
[01:55] <trillis> You said it was possible for me to give VLC a link to watch the streaming video.
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> dairien: now run "kdesudo wlassistant"
[01:55] <Radi01> trillis/open vlc and copy paste link in play file
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> trillis: I did? lol... too many people.. I'm not sure if its possible actually... try #vlc
[01:56] <kendall> up to 48% updated!
[01:56] <kendall> woohoo!
[01:56] <dairien> norsednaekim: Command not found
[01:56] <dairien> norsednaekim: I don't believe it installed correctly
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah....
[01:56] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: i installed that program and what not to have xp read access but i still cant fig out how to mount a printer
[01:56] <dairien> norsednaekim: I appear to have had some errors, do I need to be connected to the internet on the computer I am installing wlassistant?
[01:57] <sam_> vlc
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> dairien: yes :D
[01:57] <dairien> norsednaekim: Okay, well that's the problem.
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> heh :D
[01:57] <dairien> norsednaekim: I cannot connect to my router, :x
[01:58] <dairien> norsednaekim: I am talking to you on another laptop that is running windows.
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> dairien: ah....not this sounds interesting :D
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> *now
[01:58] <trillis> #vlc is a dead channle...
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> dairien: is it possible for you to take the encryption off temporarily?
[01:59] <Radi01> : trillis/open vlc and copy paste link in play file
[01:59] <dairien> norsednaekim: Yes I can, but the laptop doesn't even recognize a signal.
[01:59] <trillis> It does nothing.
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> dairien: not sure about that.... try running "iwconfig" and see what the name of the interface that is your wireless (whould be eth1 or wlan0,etc)
[02:00] <dairien> eth1
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> dairien: now run "sudo iwlist eth1 scan"
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> and see if it gives you your router..
[02:01] <kubuntunewbie> Could anyone please assist me in installing a printer that is networked over an xp machine???
[02:01] <Radi01> trillis: you may have to play with firefox/edit/preferences/content/filetypes.
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: go intot system settings-> printers->add printer and select the type of printer to be samba (I believe)
[02:02] <dairien> norsednaekim: yes it does
[02:02] <dairien> norsednaekim: how do I connect to it?
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> dairien: then all hope is not lost :D
[02:03] <trillis> I don't see any filetypes in the Content section.
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> dairien: its easiest if you take the encryption off
[02:03] <dairien> norsednaekim: I have the address, ESSID, Protocol, Mode, Channel, and frequency
[02:03] <Radi01> click the manage under file types trillis
[02:04] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: i dont know how to find the address, any ideas?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> kubuntunewbie: run "ipconfig" on the windows computer
[02:04] <dairien> norsednaekim: Is there some sort of sudo command I can type to just connect to the router by typing in the ESSID and WEP Key?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> dairien: yes....
[02:04] <kubuntunewbie> nosrednaekim: so i would use the ip that is assigned to the computer from the router?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> the ESSID part is easy...I forget how to do the key part
[02:05] <dairien> norsednaekim: How do I just do the ESSID?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> the ESSID is "sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID <your essid>"
[02:05] <trillis> Radi01: I don't see any button, nor do I see anything that has to deal with filetypes. All I see however are boxes that tell me I should Enable Javascript, Block Popups and Warning me when a web trys to install something.
[02:06] <Radi01> you have another version than i have/ anyways you may have to change the (open with) file in your fire fox.
[02:07] <Radi01> just look around
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> dairien: then. run "sudo iwconfig eth1 key <your key>" and finally "sudo dhclient eth1"
[02:08] <dairien> norsednaekim: I think it worked.
[02:08] <kendall> so, should I wait for all my updating to finish before installing samba?
[02:08] <Radi01> yes
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> dairien: try pinging google :D
[02:08] <kendall> ok
[02:08] <dairien> norsednaekim: You are god
[02:08] <dairien> norsednaekim: I owe you
[02:08] <Radi01> after you update re-boot and go from there
[02:08]  * kendall taps his fingers impatiently.....
[02:08] <kendall> ok
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> I amnot god,god gave me gifts :D
[02:08] <dairien> norsednaekim: If you ever need a website or some sort of graphic design of some sort e-mail dairien@gmail.com
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> dairien: hey... kubuntu needs help with that right now :D
[02:09] <Radi01> lol
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> (and i'm dead serious)
[02:09] <Kasplatt> some free burning software to burn my .iso do a CD ?
[02:09]  * trillis twitches
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: on windows?
[02:09] <Radi01> I know it was just how it looked.
[02:09] <Kasplatt> yes
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> !iso
[02:09] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:09] <Kasplatt> it's not for me it's for a friend .
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Kasplatt: I forget the name..
[02:10] <sstchur> When I try to run apt-get -f install, I get "
[02:10] <sstchur> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:10] <sstchur>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/emblems/emblem-mounted.svgz', which is also in package kde4base-data
[02:10] <sstchur> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[02:10] <mrsno> Kasplatt infrarecorder
[02:10] <trillis> Daemon tools?
[02:10] <mrsno> small download
[02:10] <Kasplatt> not mounting , burning
[02:10] <sstchur> What is that?
[02:10] <trillis> Nero?
[02:10] <Kasplatt> mrsno infrarecorder ?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> sstchur: remove all previous KDE4 packages before install RC1
[02:10] <dairien> norsednaekim: Thank you for your help.
[02:10] <Kasplatt> trillis something free , he won't use windows after that so buying nero would be pointless
[02:10] <mrsno> yep :) it works well, a clone almost of an old version of nero, without much of the crud you get in the newer versions of nero
[02:11]  * trillis ywantorrentyawn
[02:11] <sstchur> nosrednaekim: that's what I'm trying to do, but when I run apt-get remove kdelibs5 I get a an error saying I need to run apt-get -f install, which gives me the error I just mentioned
[02:11] <Radi01> alacohol is better anyway nero stinks
[02:11] <mrsno> the ubuntu wiki even has steps on burning, if they are new to it all
[02:11] <sstchur> it's a vicious cycle!
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> sstchur: ah...
[02:11] <Kasplatt> thanks mrsno
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> sstchur: heh... I had that problem once.... remove all other kde4 packages first.
[02:11] <kendall> woohoo! 74% updated!
[02:11] <Radi01> yahoo
[02:11] <mrsno> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#head-5f36c46dbbdd2bd773ae1f5d361be66c6553babf Kasplatt fyi
[02:11] <trillis> Hey God (nosrednaekim), any way you could help me with my vlc issue?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> thats just the DL..
[02:12] <mrsno> your welcome
[02:12]  * kendall taps fingers some more....
[02:12] <Radi01> lol trillis
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> trillis: I don't use VLC,sorry
[02:12] <Radi01> be nice
[02:12] <Kasplatt> mrsno I was just looking for the software :P
[02:12]  * trillis <3 nosr
[02:12] <mrsno> its linked in the first line of text :)
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> dairien: you might want to get wlassistant to make that easier next time
[02:13] <dairien> I am now
[02:13] <dairien> Thank you
[02:13] <sstchur> nosrednaekim: do you know which ones specifically?  I've tried kdebase-dev-kde4 and that failed also
[02:13] <markus> !dist-upgrade
[02:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I don't know, I just messed around for a little bit and fixed it :D
[02:13] <trillis> Well, when I try and use mplayer, whenever I try to full screen a video, it goes to 1fps.
[02:13] <Radi01> kendall: you on dsl?
[02:15] <Radi01> did it die?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> everyone is dead..
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> die die die! :)
[02:16]  * trillis cries
[02:16]  * trillis yells at vlc for being mean
[02:16]  * Dr_Willis has been playing crysis - lots of death there!
[02:17] <trillis> Dr Willis, do you know anything about vlc?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> trillis ive never had any problems with vlc. I use it all the time inder linux and windows
[02:17] <trillis> Think you could attempt to help me?
[02:17] <Radi01> Dt_Willis trillis is on dapper.
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> im on gutsy
[02:17] <trillis> ...:(
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> :) I dont recall any issues on it with dapper either.
[02:18] <trillis> I'm trying to get it to stream movies.
[02:18] <trillis> But it says no to me.
[02:18]  * trillis whimpers...
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. never messed with the streaming much.
[02:18]  * nosrednaekim slaps trillis
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> when i did stream movies.. they looked like poo.
[02:19] <Radi01> mine dont..they are real clean
[02:19] <trillis> Same.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> about like some of the crud ya see on that  shoutcast tv stuff
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine theres 1000+ settings ya can tweak with
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> i was watching them in a browser. :)
[02:19] <Radi01> shoutcast now has hq
[02:19] <trillis> I'd post a link, but it's probably agains kubuntu rules.
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> Dr_Willis: I think you are confusing content with quality ;)
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> trillis: what is the movie?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> nosrednaekim i want quality adult videos! :0
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[02:20] <trillis> last samurai :)
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> oh...
[02:20] <trillis> o_O
[02:20] <somekool> try youtube
[02:20] <trillis> You tube works fine.
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> trillis: oh.... I see,I'm not sure you can stream a "real" video. I thinkit has to be a stream
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> ive streamed .avi's with vlc befor
[02:20] <Radi01> exactly
[02:20] <level1> silent failure is so annoying... kmail is refusing to get messages from my gmail account, it just says "transmission from gmail complete, no new messages"
[02:21] <level1> There seems to be a process called kio_pop3 that gets left behind, but killing it doesn't change anything
[02:21] <draik> Hello all
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> level1: thats very odd....it may be a probalem with your gmail pop settings
[02:21] <Radi01> hey driak
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> hey draik
[02:22] <level1> nosrednaekim: hmmm... gmail doesn't give you very many options; mostly its just, what does gmail do with the messages after they are retrieved?
[02:22] <draik> What software can I use to edit an AVI? I want to cut away parts from the beginning and end so that I am left with a short clip of the original AVI.
[02:22] <draik> Hey nosrednaekim
[02:22] <draik> Hey Radi01. My name is Draik :p
[02:22] <Radi01> sry
[02:22] <draik> Haha
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> draik: avidemuz might be able to do it.
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> *avidimux
[02:23] <trillis> Dr.Willis: When I try to stream movies from a specific site, mozilla tells me I need to install a plugin.
[02:23] <trillis> Dr_Willis *
[02:23] <Radi01> draik ill get you a couple links to some cool software hang on
[02:23] <draik> nosrednaekim: I use ffmpeg still for other things. avidimux removed it
[02:23] <draik> Radi01: Thank you
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> trillis you are trying to watch a video stream in vlc? or make your own stream?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> I use the mplayerfirefix plugin i think for most of mine
[02:24] <Radi01> http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=lives  try that
[02:24] <trillis> trying to watcha  viodeo stream
[02:24] <draik> trillis: I get the same thing. I thought I had kaffeine setup since Dapper to Edgy to Feisty. I guess it didn't transfer to Gutsy
[02:25] <kendall> woohoo! 97 percent done!
[02:25] <Radi01> avidimux didnt work?
[02:25] <draik> Radi01: All I need now is a phone call and this DSL should start kicking and screaming of abuse
[02:25] <Radi01> hahaha
[02:25] <Radi01> 2 funny
[02:25] <trillis> Radi01: Who's the link for?
[02:26] <draik> Radi01: Ktorrent, Konversation and now Firefox
[02:26] <Radi01> wow
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> trillis what site you trying to watch anyway?
[02:26] <trillis> watch-movies.net
[02:26] <Radi01> id be on the phone with those cats about it
[02:27] <posingaspopular> anyone know how to turn off the dictionary feature in konversation. it keeps trying to correct my spelling but only because it doesn't recognize 'konversation' as a valid word
[02:27] <posingaspopular> highlights in red, gutsy gibbon btw
[02:28] <trillis> uhg
[02:28] <ardchoille> posingaspopular: You should be able to add any word to your dictionary
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> posingaspopular: haha, can't you add it to the dictionary?
[02:28] <draik> posingaspopular: I will trade you
[02:28] <trillis> Damn...
[02:28] <kendall> ah, now we're into the installing part of the updates....
[02:28] <trillis> I just noticed that my video card isn't going to let me maximize videos.
[02:28] <draik> How do I get the dictionary feature?
[02:28] <Radi01> cool kendall
[02:28] <trillis> I tried to maximize a youtube video at I got 2fps.
[02:28] <ardchoille> trillis: lol
[02:28] <Radi01> lol 2fps  darn
[02:29] <trillis> I have an ati 16mb 3d card :(
[02:29] <Kasplatt> lol
[02:29] <Radi01> I have an 8 meg turbo 3d 4 sale.
[02:29] <Minataku> Scaling is a 2D acceleration feature, however, with a YouTube video, it's likely done entirely in the flash player
[02:29] <Kasplatt> I've seen that a lot of linux users got low-end comps
[02:30] <trillis> Do you think it could be, because Kubuntu hates ATI?
[02:30] <ardchoille> trillis: watch-movies.net ? I foresee a visit from the MPAA in your future :P
[02:30] <Minataku> I'd recommend downloading the video and running it manually with something like XVideo
[02:30] <trillis> MPAA?
[02:30] <draik> ardchoille: kinda reminds me of tv-links.co.uk
[02:30] <Radi01> lol ardchoille
[02:30] <Minataku> Which even on lame cards will usually have hardware accelerated scaling
[02:30] <ardchoille> draik: Yeah
[02:30] <Radi01> iraa
[02:30] <draik> tv-links.co.uk was a great site.
[02:30] <Radi01> ya tv links got raided
[02:30] <draik> :(
[02:31] <trillis> I'm not doing anything illegal by watching them.
[02:31] <Radi01> punks
[02:31] <trillis> The site is by hosting them.
[02:31] <ardchoille> trillis: Yes, the MPAA sues people who download movies like that.
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> trillis tat site works for me. Its just using the Flash player.
[02:31] <Kasplatt> ohh MPAA sounds like a bunch of idiotss .
[02:31] <Radi01> they are.
[02:31] <trillis> I don't dl movies though.
[02:32] <posingaspopular> no i want to turn it off
[02:32] <coreymon77> tv-links got shut down
[02:32] <coreymon77> oh no
[02:32] <coreymon77> the cria is worse
[02:32] <Radi01> ya a month ago
[02:32] <coreymon77> they shut down demonoid
[02:32] <trillis> How can I get the flash player plugin then?
[02:32] <posingaspopular> i have no idea how it got turned on, but i want it off
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> !flash
[02:32] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:32] <draik> Radi01: So it appears that I already had LIVES installed
[02:32] <Kasplatt> Radi01 wouldnt that make the downloads go a little slower ?
[02:32] <draik> *LiVES
[02:32] <Radi01> cool lives is cool as avidemux
[02:32] <draik> Now I'm told the video is too big
[02:32] <draik> :(
[02:32] <draik> Just not my end of the year
[02:33] <Radi01> youll be ok d
[02:33] <Radi01> I'll send benny hinn over to lay his hands on yur dsl.
[02:33] <draik> Benny Hill???
[02:34] <Kasplatt> mplayer
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> Miss Cleo can drive out the Deamons! :0
[02:34] <draik> Miss Cleo was the best scam IMO
[02:34] <Radi01> ya miss cleo
[02:34] <coreymon77> and the CRIA can drive out the deimos :P
[02:34] <draik> Fake Jamaican accent and all
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> 'Certified Psycic!'
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:34] <Hizzle> trying to get my sound to work is really becoming an adventure like everything else
[02:34] <Radi01> psycho
[02:35] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[02:35] <Minataku> :D
[02:35] <draik> Then again, it was stupid people that believed in her and that the people on the other line were actually using tarot cards and not the cards in solitaire from the game they were playing during calls.
[02:35] <Minataku> Any news on the other Amiga yet? Or is it still at the mercy of your wife's crap?
[02:35] <Minataku> lol
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Minataku its in the garrage.. I may have a decent box for it now. :) got  a large collection of Xmas packing box's here.
[02:36] <Minataku> Oooh, cool :D
[02:36] <draik> "Oh yes chaild. I see an empty space in dat dere secun colum. Drag dat queen to da keen and score som poin's, mai chail'."
[02:37] <trillis> how do I enable multiverse for the flash plugin?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !repo
[02:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:46] <Kasplatt> !ps3
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <Kasplatt> kubuntu runs on ps3 .. right ? like a PPC edition ?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Kasplatt thats what i hear. :)
[02:46] <Kasplatt> or is KDE too heavy for it ?
[02:46] <Kasplatt> ah okay , nice !
[02:46] <Minataku> Ugh
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Given the Processing power of the PS3.. Id be amazed that any desktop would be too heavy for it.
[02:47] <Minataku> Actually
[02:47] <Minataku> The PS3's processor is a mess
[02:47] <Minataku> It's a horrible design for general purpose tasks
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> But it wasent designed for general purpose tasks. :) it was designed for porn.. err.. i mean games..
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:47] <Minataku> It's really only good for heavy calculation, like massive scientific stuff
[02:47] <Minataku> Wrong, actually
[02:47] <coreymon77> Dr_Willis: lol
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Bah! You and your downer attitude...
[02:48] <Minataku> It's a partial PPC core with eight mass-vector units
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> You are mad because it wont run CP/M !
[02:48] <coreymon77> ps3 is a waste of money
[02:48] <Minataku> It's completely inappropriate for everything but heavy scientific calculations and massive data processing
[02:49] <Minataku> Last time I checked, nobody was waiting in line to buy "Amino Acid Binding: The Interactive Adventure"
[02:49] <Minataku> Or for that matter, a PS3
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> So it can handle Compiz fine then. :)
[02:49] <Minataku> This generation's total failure
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Minataku that would be 'spore' :)
[02:49] <Minataku> Actually, the chip itself is a bottleneck for everything
[02:49] <coreymon77> and this generations great success = the wii!
[02:49] <Minataku> And there's a separate graphics chip
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> I like my Wii :)
[02:49] <Minataku> So the CPU is basically used for absolutely nothing
[02:49] <coreymon77> me too
[02:49] <hdevalence> what does ksoftirqd do?
[02:50] <coreymon77> the only worth while console of this generation
[02:50] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 ps3 is nice too
[02:51] <Minataku> No, it's not
[02:51] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: didnt you just hear us go on about how its a complete waste of money and this generations biggest flop or a failure
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> ultimate game station ---->  http://www.xgamestation.com/
[02:51] <coreymon77> or=of*
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:51] <Kasplatt> yes it is ... for games its awesome !
[02:51] <Minataku> No, it's not.
[02:51] <hdevalence> and besides, with the wii you can fold the protiens *yourself*!!!!
[02:51] <Kasplatt> for linux it's pretty sucky .
[02:51] <Minataku> It's a shame you can't see past your fanboyism.
[02:51] <Kasplatt> Minataku yes it is .
[02:51] <Kasplatt> I'm not a fanboy
[02:51] <Minataku> I weep for the money you wasted.
[02:51] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: it really isnt
[02:52] <Kasplatt> I like the games for it
[02:52] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: im a little ticked about ratchet being only on it
[02:52] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: but other than that
[02:52] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 for some purposes it isn't .
[02:52] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: its a complete waste
[02:52] <Kasplatt> ya the games are great , but it has some processing power that's useful in some situations .
[02:52] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: games are crap
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Someone want to check    http://stage6.com/user/zeshika_kuku_ru/video/1216296/haruhi-candy-pop   see if the download-the-video link works? for some reason firefox is trying to load the download as a text file...
[02:53] <Radi01> hackers  love ps3 processors
[02:53] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 no they aren't .
[02:53] <coreymon77> mario galaxy FTW
[02:53] <Kasplatt> Radi01 yes
[02:53] <Radi01> They made big news last week.
[02:53] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 you seem to be a wii fanboy right now .
[02:53] <Radi01> lol'
[02:53] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: name me one good game other than ratchet
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> coreymon77 im waiting for harvest moon. :)   The wife wa playing Bowling all day yesterday., and only knocked over the tv once.
[02:54] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: not really, its just the only worthwhile system, i have a ps2 and its great
[02:54] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: once again
[02:54] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: name me one good game other than ratchet
[02:54] <Kasplatt> coreymon77.. Little Big Planet, Call of Duty 3. and lots of others.
[02:54]  * Dr_Willis dosent even know what 'rachet' is.
[02:54] <Radi01> lol only once?
[02:54] <Kasplatt> Ratchet and Clank..
[02:54] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: both of those are crap
[02:54] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 and why is that ?
[02:55] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: dont even know what that planet game is
[02:55] <draik> Is there an app for playing ISOs? Is there a way to mount it and put it on as an image drive?
[02:55] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: and what are these lots of others
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> I dont care much for the 3d platformers.
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> !iso | draik
[02:55] <ubotu> draik: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:55] <draik> Kasplatt: Ratchet and Clank games are really good. I love their weapons
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> draik you mount it and  access its contents is one way
[02:55] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: that is the only thing im ticked about
[02:55] <draik> Thank you Dr_Willis
[02:55] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: but cot3, its just another fps
[02:55] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: little big planet, wtf is that
[02:56] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: and what are these lots of others?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> issue i have with most of the 3d platformers - is that the darn camera always seems to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.. :)
[02:56] <bazhang_> there should be a ubuntu/kubuntu games channel
[02:56] <Kasplatt> coreymon77, I happen to like Battlefield Bad Company, Resistance: FoM, Lair, GRAW2, Def Jam Icons. and others.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> I just perfer the Twisted Metal Car carnage fests...
[02:56] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: once again, never heard of any of them
[02:56] <Kasplatt> and Kane & Lynch
[02:56] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: who and what?
[02:57] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 okay, so you say all the ps3 games suck and you don't know any of the games . you seem smart.
[02:57] <coreymon77> has anyone heard of any of these games
[02:57] <ardchoille> !ot
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[02:57] <Minataku> Here comes the fun police
[02:57] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: trust me, if they were any good, i would know about it
[02:57] <Minataku> Despite that nobody needs help right now
[02:57] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: the fact that i dont means they are crao
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> ive never played a ps3.. and i only got 2 games for the wii. :)
[02:58] <coreymon77> ardchoille: hes right, if someone was looking for help, different story
[02:58] <coreymon77> ardchoille: but for now, whats the big deal
[02:58] <Minataku> My main console is an XBos360, and I also have my beloved Dreamcast
[02:58] <Minataku> *XBox360
[02:58] <bazhang_> help! linux broke my internets!
[02:58] <Minataku> No it didn't.
[02:58] <Kasplatt> there
[02:58] <Minataku> You have been helped.
[02:58] <Minataku> lol
[02:59] <Kasplatt> lol
[02:59] <Minataku> Now, back to the fun
[02:59] <bazhang_> haha all fixed
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Minataku local used place has a oodle of Dreamcasts. :)
[02:59] <Minataku> XD
[02:59] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: Get one
[02:59] <Radi01> Help: bill gates just got blue screened using linux.
[02:59] <Minataku> You'll love it
[02:59] <kendall> time to get samba
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> Minataku i got one  with a few games  allready.  I wanted to get the amiga emulator going on it.. but never did  :)
[02:59] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: also, the controller was the biggest failure ever, it doesnt even have a freaking rumble
[02:59] <Minataku> Heh
[02:59]  * Dr_Willis turns off rumble.
[02:59] <Minataku> I've used an SNES emulator on my Dreamcast
[02:59] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: sony tried to imitate the wiimote and failed miserably
[02:59] <draik> Dr_Willis: sudo umount /mnt                right? I mounted it to /mnt/
[02:59] <Kasplatt> coreymon77, if you buy the dualshock 3 you get rumble ...
[03:00] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: if you buy a seperate controller, very nice
[03:00] <Radi01> kendall: how goes it buddy.
[03:00] <Kasplatt> coreymon77, they did not , they got 3d accelerometers , which only are for motion sensing, that skiing game uses it nicely.
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> draik you could mount it anywhere you wanted.  make the dir first.. ie mkdir /media/ISOFILE    then mount to /media/ISOFILE
[03:00] <draik> Dr_Willis: I chose /mnt/
[03:00] <Minataku> Uh, the Wiimote has 3D accelerometers as well
[03:01] <Minataku> They also have them in the nunchuck
[03:01] <draik> Dr_Willis: To unmount it, I do       sudo umount /mnt/             right?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> draik bingo.
[03:01] <Minataku> Various different tools can be used with the Wiimote, including a gun and a steering wheel
[03:01] <Kasplatt> Minataku and an IR camera that find out which way it's turning by looking at an IR led bar.
[03:01] <kendall> I'm learning, Radi01
[03:01] <coreymon77> yup
[03:01] <Minataku> All by just sticking the Wiimote into a plastic frame
[03:01] <coreymon77> and virtual console=unlimited supply of games
[03:01] <Radi01> cool
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> the Question is... can I use the Wii Remote on my Linxu box!
[03:02] <coreymon77> prob
[03:02] <Minataku> Kasplatt: So it's bad because it does more than the PS3 controller?
[03:02] <Minataku> Interesting.
[03:02] <coreymon77> bluetooth mod
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> Not seen  any info on doing that. yet. :)
[03:02] <Minataku> I think you should take your fanboyism and toss it out the window.
[03:02] <Kasplatt> Minataku, I never said it was bad
[03:02] <draik> I just had a "UGH! Why won't you... oh wait, my fault" moment.
[03:02] <Minataku> As for the Wiimote, I believe it CAN be used for other things
[03:02] <draik> I was in /mnt/ in Yakuake and wondered why I coudn't umount
[03:02] <coreymon77> external hd :P
[03:03] <Kasplatt> I just said it that the ps3 controller isn't
[03:03] <Minataku> Nintendo would certainly be smart to release the specs and info on it
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ytdW6Ys2A  - wii remote on a pc.
[03:03] <Minataku> It would boost their sales even higher
[03:03] <Minataku> Not that they particularly need that right now
[03:03] <Minataku> lol
[03:03] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: lets see the ps3 controller do that
[03:03] <Kasplatt> Dr_Willis yay , I can connect my PS3 controller to the PC just fine.
[03:03] <Minataku> Seeing as how the Wii can barely stay on the shelves
[03:03] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: and hmm lets see, what is the most popular and most wanted gift this year
[03:03] <Minataku> Whereas they can't get rid of the PS3s
[03:04] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: the ps3?
[03:04] <Kasplatt> Minataku it's cheap as hell
[03:04] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: no, the wii!
[03:04] <Minataku> They're like cardboard boxes full of crap
[03:04] <Minataku> Uh, no, it's not
[03:04] <Kasplatt> STOP BEING FANBOYS !
[03:04] <Radi01> ya
[03:04] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: ya, and the ps3 is way to freaking expensive
[03:04] <Minataku> The cheap version is $50 more than the midrange 360
[03:04] <Minataku> It lacks backwards compatibility
[03:04] <Kasplatt> damnit , I'm defending the ps3, not bashing ur beloved fkn wii
[03:04] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: umm, look whose talking
[03:04] <Minataku> The expensive version is $50 MORE than the high-end 360
[03:05] <coreymon77> and the wii is cheaper than them all
[03:05] <Minataku> Kasplatt: And we're making valid points on why the PS3 is a complete and utter failure
[03:05] <Kasplatt> I just ssaid that the wii is cheap as hell
[03:05] <Minataku> The fact that it was designed first to push their latest failure format Blu-Ray
[03:05] <Minataku> Which we all here HATE for obvious reasons
[03:05] <Kasplatt> Minataku , saying that all the games suck does not make it a bad console , since your just bashing it without any background for doing that .
[03:06] <Minataku> I haven't said that
[03:06] <coreymon77> umm
[03:06] <Kasplatt> Minataku blu-ray is great too
[03:06] <Minataku> Typical fanboy, not even listening
[03:06] <coreymon77> what else is a console used for
[03:06] <Minataku> Okay, now I _know_ you're an idiot
[03:06] <coreymon77> if the games are crap, what else good is the console
[03:06] <Minataku> Kasplatt: I'd definitely recommend you give up
[03:06] <Kasplatt> coreymon77 that's my point , they aren't !
[03:06] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: yes they are
[03:06] <Kasplatt> yeah I'm outnumbered, wii fanboys all round me
[03:07] <Minataku> I wasn't even aware there WERE games for the PS3
[03:07] <rafal> how to set LCD refresh rate?
[03:07] <rafal> using KDEW
[03:07] <rafal> KDE
[03:07] <Minataku> There's, what, 5 total?
[03:07] <Minataku> And they're all lame
[03:07] <coreymon77> we're not even fanboys
[03:07] <Kasplatt> Minataku more like 80
[03:07] <coreymon77> we're just being realistic
[03:07] <coreymon77> Kasplatt: ya, most of them ps2 games :P
[03:07] <Minataku> rafal: The refresh is typically locked on an LCD, but check the graphics settings
[03:07] <Minataku> coreymon77: Unless you got the cheap one
[03:07] <Kasplatt> coreymon77, I'm talking about ps3 games here
[03:08] <coreymon77> sure...
[03:08] <Kasplatt> 60-80 or something like that
[03:08] <Minataku> Also, I'm not a fanboy
[03:08] <Minataku> I've got an XBox360
[03:08] <Minataku> My little brother has a 360 and a Wii
[03:08]  * Dr_Willis is too cheap.
[03:08] <coreymon77> and i have a ps2
[03:08] <Minataku> I've also got a Dreamcast
[03:08] <coreymon77> which i really like
[03:09] <Hizzle> I am trying to install alsa drivers so I can get my sound working typed make install after I complied it and got this in the terminal "install: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied" anyone know how to fix it?
[03:09] <coreymon77> and a genesis
[03:09] <Minataku> I also play emulators of NES, SNES and Arcade games
[03:09]  * Dr_Willis has a C64 thats inside a little Joystick
[03:09] <Minataku> Hizzle: You have to use Sudo
[03:09] <Kasplatt> oh that totally doesn't make you a fanboy , fyi I got a PS1 PS2, Nintendo64 NintendoDS ... so I can't be a fanboy , can I ?
[03:09] <Minataku> *sudo
[03:09] <Kasplatt> and a gameboy color !! :O!
[03:09] <Hizzle> I am very new to all this is it sudo make install is what I type?
[03:09] <Minataku> Considering you're completely batsh*t about the PS3
[03:09] <ardchoille> If you cannot abide by the channel rules, namely !ot, please either refrain from posting or visit another channel :)
[03:09] <Minataku> Hizzle: Correct
[03:09] <Hizzle> thanks
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> Hizzle 'sudo make install' correct
[03:10] <Minataku> ardchoille: Give it a rest, wannabe
[03:10] <Pilot> I installed VMware6 and need to un-install it and install 5.  Anyone know how to get rid of 5?
[03:10] <ardchoille> !ops
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[03:10] <rafal> Minataku: no
[03:10] <Pilot> get rid of 6*
[03:10]  * Dr_Willis goes back to reserching the wiimote under linux.
[03:10] <Minataku> That's for emergencies only, ardchoille
[03:10] <Hizzle> so what is sudo might I ask?
[03:10] <Kasplatt> I play emulators too :)
[03:10] <Minataku> Nice work on the abuse.
[03:10] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Kasplatt
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[03:10] <rafal> Minataku: I can have 50 58 or 60 refresh rate... on my LCD how to set it?  in kde prefferably.. or with some application? or in xorg conf?
[03:10] <nalioth> Dr_Willis: we suggest 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'
[03:10] <hdevalence> Dr_Willis: I think there's a kernel driver for it
[03:10] <Minataku> Hizzle: sudo allows one to execute commands with a higher privliege level
[03:11] <coreymon77> Hizzle: namely, as root
[03:11] <Hizzle> ah ok
[03:11] <Hizzle> thank you
[03:11] <hdevalence> Dr_Willis: but you'd need to write your own software
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> hdevalence aparently it is using a rather common chipset. :) its all the littel details that seem to be causing problems.
[03:11] <Minataku> ardchoille: Also, I am stopping my discussion to help when it's requested
[03:11] <Kasplatt> meh ,I'll just leave . I've heard enough of your ps3 bashing . bye :D
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> hdevalence yep. Be nice for a MythTV box i think
[03:11] <Minataku> rafal: Hm... I've never done it, so I don't know, actually
[03:12] <Minataku> !video
[03:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:12] <Minataku> Hrm... that's not it
[03:13] <Minataku> Say, nalioth, since you're here, do you know how to set the refresh on an LCD through KDE?
[03:13] <Minataku> It MIGHT be in the XOrg config, but I'm not sure at all
[03:13] <nalioth> Minataku: there is no such thing.
[03:13] <ardchoille> lol
[03:13] <nalioth> LCDs don't refresh
[03:13] <Minataku> LCDs do have a refresh
[03:14] <Minataku> They update the screen serially, one pixel at a time, ala CRTs
[03:14] <Minataku> I know this as a fact because my graphics card sucks and I get tearing sometimes
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: system settings->monitor and display
[03:17] <Minataku> rafal needs it, not me
[03:17] <Minataku> I was just asking if anyone else knew because I didn't
[03:17] <Minataku> nalioth: LCDs are not, however, susceptible to flicker
[03:17] <pteague_work> any idea why i'd be getting an error trying to update to gutsy?
[03:18] <flaccid> if lcds didn't refresh, i guess it would only be good for still photos :)
[03:18] <Minataku> Since that's an artifact of the phosphor dimming without repeated restimulation
[03:18] <NickPresta> pteague_work, which error are you getting?
[03:18] <Minataku> Perhaps that's what you were thinking?
[03:18] <nalioth> Minataku: i don't think the video configurators know anything about LCDs and refresh, because LCD refresh is not anything like CRT refresh
[03:19] <Minataku> It's a similar phenomenon
[03:19] <Minataku> The similarity is that the screen has to be redrawn from top to bottom so many times per second
[03:20] <pteague_work> nm... think i found an issue with some of the extra items in my sources list
[03:20] <Minataku> The difference is the reason this has to be done (Outside the reason, of course, that both need to update what's on the screen)
[03:24] <kendall> so, after I install samba, should I be able to browse the network, and if so, how, or do I need to configure it extensively?
[03:25] <pteague_work> kendall> you on a domain or just a windows network?
[03:25] <kendall> windows network
[03:25] <kendall> XP machines
[03:25] <kendall> I can't even figure out how to open samba
[03:26] <Minataku> !samba
[03:26] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:26]  * kendall sighs
[03:26] <Minataku> Try those links
[03:26] <kendall> that's where I was
[03:26] <kendall> ...am....
[03:26] <kendall> ok, more reading, then
[03:26] <kendall> thanks
[03:26] <Minataku> The guides are there to help you. Don't be afraid to read them. :D
[03:27] <Minataku> flaccid: If LCDs didn't refresh, they'd be completely useless
[03:27] <Minataku> lol
[03:27] <pteague_work> hmm... i can't find the computer name &/or domain/workgroup settings in my smb.conf ... then again i set those up when i set up the box's linux name & domain
[03:27] <Minataku> They'd never display anything
[03:29] <flaccid> fair enough
[03:29] <Hizzle> tried installing the alsa packages had a few errors tried restarting and now kmix says mixer cannot be found
[03:32] <coreymon> we like the moon
[03:33] <Hizzle> did anyone see my msg up there about mixer cant be found not sure if it went through my internet is acting screwy
[03:33] <Radi01> lcd refresh rates do not matter/ it is response time that matters.
[03:33] <pteague_work> try reinstalling mixer &/or kmix ?
[03:36] <kendall> howcome when I edit the samba config file, I cannot save it?
[03:36] <ardchoille> kendall: You need to edit it with admin privs (sudo/kdesudo)
[03:37] <jhutchins> !sudo | kendall
[03:37] <ubotu> kendall: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:37] <kendall> ok
[03:37] <jhutchins> !kdesu | kendall
[03:37] <ubotu> kendall: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:37] <kendall> ack! info overload!
[03:37] <kendall> heehee
[03:38] <jhutchins> kendall: Yeah, well, just be glad I didn't dump http://tldp.org on ya.
[03:38] <kendall> heh
[03:38] <ubuntu_> #Kubuntu-es
[03:38] <ardchoille> jhutchins: hehe
[03:38] <nzk> How do I stop Kubuntu from reloading from a previous session?
[03:38] <Radi01> cool site
[03:39] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Handling
[03:44] <kendall> is there a way I can right-click a file and choose to open it with root priv?
[03:46] <kendall> never mind, found it
[03:47] <ardchoille> kendall: kendall Are you using konqueror for file management?
[03:48] <joseph> try as i might, i cannot play youtube videos
[03:49] <joseph> i've reinstalled all the flash pkgs, to no avail
[03:49] <joseph> and i've scanned for plugins in kongueror.
[03:50] <kendall> I think so, ardchoille
[03:50] <kendall> I got it, tho
[03:50] <ardchoille> ok
[03:50] <joseph> what should i do next to get flash to work?
[03:51] <joseph> well, homestar works :P
[03:51] <ardchoille> kendall: I wrote a nice service menu item and will share it with you if you want it. It makes editing files a little easier.
[03:51] <joseph> bleh
[03:52] <kendall> um, that may be a bit advanced for me yet.
[03:52] <kendall> I'll keep it in mind, tho
[03:54] <kendall> ok, after I edit the samba config file, how do I go about browsing the network?  what menu is it under?
[03:54] <ardchoille> kendall: Type  samba:/  into the konqueror file manager ?
[03:55] <kendall> aha
[03:55] <ardchoille> kendall: It's a kio slave, similar to apt:/ man:/ and others
[03:55] <kendall> uh.  right.  of course.
[03:56] <kendall> (remember, n00b)
[03:56] <ardchoille> kendall: Don't worry, you'll get all of this stuff :)
[03:56] <kendall> I'm trying
[03:56] <ardchoille> kendall: Our goal is to bring you out of "n00b: status
[03:57] <theverant> hi.  My user is part of the scanner group, but I still need to sudo xsane for it to see my scanner - any ideas?
[03:57] <ardchoille> kendall: Here's the service menu complete with instructions: http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m4d48d1e2
[03:57] <kendall> ok, thanks
[03:58] <Radi01> cool
[03:59] <ibilic> you know how you use Ctrl+C to terminate a program... how would you pause it?
[03:59] <kendall> ok, I'm sorry. where in the konqueror file manager do I type that?  I keep getting errors...
[04:00] <ardchoille> kendall: In the location bar
[04:00] <kendall> ok, and do I need to be in the home folder?
[04:00] <ardchoille> current location shouldn't matter
[04:00] <ardchoille> kendall: What is the error? Protocol not supported?
[04:00] <kendall> An error occurred while loading locate:samba:/:
[04:00] <kendall> The file or folder  does not exist.
[04:01] <ardchoille> kendall: Did you add a ":" to the end?
[04:01] <ardchoille> samba:/
[04:01] <kendall> no
[04:01] <kendall> samba:/
[04:01] <ardchoille> I wonder why it's searching for samba:/
[04:02] <ardchoille> It seems to be doing "locate samba:/"
[04:02] <kendall> in the locate bar it shows locate:samba:/
[04:02] <ardchoille> kendall: Then I must be wrong, weird, that worked in Feisty
[04:03] <kendall> I thought I was IN feisty....
[04:03] <kendall> 7.04
[04:03] <kendall> right?
[04:03] <ardchoille> You are
[04:03]  * kendall is confused....
[04:03] <nosredna_ekim> kendall: you sure your entering "samba:/" in the right bar?
[04:03]  * ardchoille is too
[04:04] <ardchoille> nosredna_ekim: Thank you, for a minute I thought I was going crazy
[04:04] <kendall> yeah, I think so.  it isn't the "filter" bar
[04:04] <nosredna_ekim> kendall: oh <_<
[04:05] <nosredna_ekim> kendall: you can always try "network:/"and select samba from there
[04:05] <kendall> as I start to type in the locate baar, it starts trying to autocomplete by prefacing it with "http:/"
[04:06] <nosredna_ekim> odd.
[04:06] <ardchoille> kendall: ignore that
[04:06] <kendall> ok
[04:06] <ardchoille> kendall: It's doing the "http:/" in a drop down, correct?
[04:06] <kendall> yes
[04:06] <ardchoille> Yeah, ignore it
[04:07] <kendall> ok.  still get the error, though
[04:08] <ardchoille> kendall: Tr turning off web shortcuts for a moment: Settings > Configure Konqueror > Web Shortcuts
[04:08] <ardchoille> I want to see if that is interferring
[04:08] <kendall> uh...
[04:08] <kendall> ok, gimme a sec
[04:09] <kendall> ok, now I get a different error-
[04:09] <kendall> Protocol not supported
[04:09] <kendall> samba
[04:10] <kendall> ....and for the record, it still did the dropdown thing....
[04:10] <ardchoille> kendall: Ok, that won't work, then. Try typing in  network:/ and go to samba from there
[04:11] <ardchoille> kendall: Did you install samba ?
[04:11] <kendall> Protocol not supported
[04:11] <kendall> network
[04:11] <kendall> I think so, yes
[04:12] <ardchoille> kendall: Ok, how about  system:/
[04:12] <kendall> lemme go reenable web thingy's
[04:12] <kendall> system works
[04:12] <Ahmuck> good evening
[04:12] <ardchoille> kendall: Then  system:/remote  should have samba in it
[04:13] <kendall> samba shares?
[04:13] <ardchoille> Yes
[04:13] <kendall> koo
[04:13] <ardchoille> Hi Ahmuck
[04:13] <kendall> ok, kool, now I can see part of the network
[04:14] <ardchoille> kendall: Sometimes given advice doesn't work because it's quite difficult to find two identical Linux boxes
[04:14] <kendall> gotcha
[04:16] <kendall> ok, now trying to access one of the computers, its asking for authentication info, (password), does that mean I still have some configuring to do in the config file (that computer doesn't use a password)
[04:17] <BluesKaj> why does the cursor jump to the last letter in the last word in the google searchbar after an entry, it's very annoying when trying change wording in the middle of a phrase
[04:17] <BluesKaj> and ids there a fix ?
[04:17] <BluesKaj> is
[04:19] <BluesKaj> kendall, if it's a windows pc , make sure the file/folder is setup to share
[04:19] <Kr4t05> Okay... I have files, albums, even, that are in my collection, but don't show up in Amarok's collection manager. o.0
[04:19] <kendall> it is
[04:19] <Kr4t05> What's the deal?
[04:19] <yola> hello!!
[04:20] <kendall> ok, here's a new question-  using konversation, is there a way to join 2 irc networks?
[04:21] <posingaspopular> kendall: yes
[04:21] <posingaspopular> f7
[04:21] <posingaspopular> then hit irc.oftc.net or whatever you want
[04:21] <kendall> thank you, posingaspopular
[04:21] <BluesKaj> kendall, have you tried using konq to browse to the windows pc by typing smb:/ in the addressbar
[04:22] <kendall> um, no.  I only booted up for the first time tonight, so I'm afraid I'm a bit behind, BluesKaj
[04:24] <adamonline45> Good evening... What should I use to manage my wireless interface?
[04:25] <mot_> can anybody explain how 'screen' works
[04:25] <BluesKaj> sacktime , nite all
[04:26] <ardchoille> mot_: screen is way cool
[04:26] <mot_> i know you can hit screen and start a new screen, then hit ctrl a+d to get out
[04:26] <mot_> and then screen -x to resume
[04:26] <mot_> but i don't understand how its different from just opening another console
[04:26] <ardchoille> mot_: What do you need to know?
[04:26] <mot_> well...
[04:26] <mot_> how it's different from opening a new console
[04:27] <ardchoille> mot_: If you do ctrl+alt+f1, you are just in one console, but if you use screen in that console, you can have lots of windows
[04:27] <mot_> ah
[04:27] <ardchoille> mot_: I run mutt (email), irssi (irc chat), elinks (web browser), bash (shell), mc (file manager) all in one screen on tty1
[04:28] <ardchoille> mot_: There are weeks that go by when I don't even use xorg
[04:28] <mot_> screen is predominantly used when not running x, yes?
[04:28] <mot_> as in, when you're only running from console
[04:28] <ardchoille> Well, I use it in konsole in kde too
[04:35] <t3ch13> I'm getting ready to buy a new laptop and was wondering if anybody here knows how kubuntu works with the HP Pavilion DV9640 Laptop?
[04:36] <dsmith_> zareason dot com
[04:36] <dsmith_> system76 is another good place to go
[04:36] <dsmith_> buy a machine with kubuntu installed already
[04:37] <t3ch13> I need it to be a dual boot is the only thing
[04:37] <dsmith_> they can do that as well
[04:37] <dsmith_> :)
[04:37] <dsmith_> you may have issues with the new machines
[04:37] <dsmith_> DV series is nice
[04:38] <t3ch13> I have a ZE2315 but the power connector is flaky so I need a replacment and I've pretty much decided on the DV9640 because I need a 17 inch display
[04:39] <dsmith_> eiher of the two other compnanies offer 17" screens
[04:39] <dsmith_> aye, my zd7000 powerport went bad
[04:39] <dsmith_> I went and bought (4) used hp 15" lappys from ebay
[04:39] <dsmith_> ~200 each and fixed them myself
[04:39] <dsmith_> all run fine
[04:40] <t3ch13> Sad part on this one is my extended waranty expired 15 days ago lol
[04:40] <dsmith_> ahhh that sux
[04:41] <Xacarith> Is there any one who knows much about Samba's 'Configure - KDE control Module'
[04:41] <t3ch13> And they wouldn't work with me. If I wasn't in collge working on my Bachelors degree I wouldn't have to worry about replacing it
[04:41] <dsmith_> when I was in Sam's club otherday
[04:41] <dsmith_> I booted Ubunt CD's on thier display models
[04:48] <kendall> ardchoille: I can't seem to locate the folder to put editwith into
[04:48] <kendall> the path you specify doesn't seem to exist
[04:48] <kendall> .unless I'm an idiot....
[04:48] <maduser> so create it
[04:48] <kendall> (highly possible)
[04:48] <kendall> um.
[04:49] <maduser> um what?
[04:49] <maduser> just use mkdir
[04:49] <kendall> never created a folder yet.
[04:49] <maduser> do you know unix?
[04:49] <kendall> heh, no
[04:49] <maduser> then use dolphin
[04:50] <kendall> see, I knew you were gonna say something that meant absolutely nothing to me....
[04:50] <kendall> lol
[04:50] <lockd> I still prefer Konqueror over dolphin
[04:50] <maduser> dolphin allows open as root
[04:50] <kendall> here's the path I need-
[04:50] <kendall> ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus
[04:51] <kendall> I'm in the root folder
[04:51] <maduser> then open it as root in dolphin
[04:51] <maduser> in konqueror i needed to use the root shell to do root stuff with the files
[04:51] <kendall> where's dolphin?
[04:52] <maduser> do you know what dolphin is?
[04:52] <Xacarith> Is there any one who knows much about Samba's 'Configure - KDE control Module' or how to set the server string
[04:52] <kendall> I'm afraid not.
[04:52] <maduser> are you new to this?
[04:53] <kendall> I just booted kubuntu for the first time tonight, maduser
[04:53] <kendall> very new, yes.
[04:53] <maduser> never used linux?
[04:53] <kendall> n00b, in the classic sense.
[04:53] <maduser> well kubntu is a good starter
[04:53] <kendall> heh, good!
[04:53] <eean> good ender too
[04:53] <kendall> anything more complicated than this would sink me!
[04:53] <eean> ;)
[04:53] <maduser> so go to kmenu, system and it should be right there
[04:54] <lockd> it's good up until your a godlike expert.. I first used Gentoo. probably not the best decision
[04:54] <maduser> my first was mandriva
[04:54] <maduser> forced me to lean unix
[04:54] <eean> Corel Linux. :P
[04:54] <lockd> actually I used Core first
[04:54] <lockd> Core, not Fedora Core or Corel
[04:54] <eean> what's Core?
[04:54] <lockd> some really obscure distro
[04:54] <maduser> now that i know unix i can use any distro
[04:55] <kendall> I don't have dolphin on my system menu.  am I broken?
[04:55] <maduser> If you know Unix you could use any distro without major problems
[04:55] <maduser> are you using 7.10
[04:55] <kendall> no
[04:55] <kendall> 7.04
[04:55] <maduser> thsats why
[04:55] <eean> then use konqueror
[04:55] <kendall> oh
[04:55] <kendall> heh
[04:55] <maduser> lean unix my firend:)
[04:55] <eean> kendall: but what are you trying to do?
[04:56] <kendall> ok, so, creating a path in konqueror?
[04:56] <eean> maduser: learn to spell :P
[04:56] <kendall> I need to move a file to that path
[04:56] <kendall> ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus
[04:56] <kendall> but I can't find it
[04:56] <xyphor> Xacarith - I'm not familiar with the KDE interface for samba, but I use samba a lot.  What are you trying to do?
[04:57] <maduser> Random Fortune: There are two types of Linux developers - those who can spell, and those who can't. There is a constant pitched battle between the two. 	-- From one of the post-1.1.54 kernel update messages posted to c.o.l.a
[04:57] <eean> kendall: well copy ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror into the URL bar
[04:57] <kendall> ok
[04:57] <maduser> thats was toatal random!!!
[04:57] <eean> uh-huh ;)
[04:57] <maduser> perfect timing
[04:57] <kendall> The file or folder ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus does not exist.
[04:58] <eean> thats why I said copy ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[04:58] <eean> ;)
[04:58] <kendall> uh
[04:58] <ninjagambit> im new to linux and i have installed fedora 8 and running kde desktop Im thinking of changing to kubuntu
[04:58] <kendall> ok
[04:58] <eean> you there?
[04:58] <Xacarith> Xyphor Get my computer on the network....  Well, it sorta was on it a bit, to where I could access other computers...  I left the computer idle for a bit while I was doing things, now I can't get on the network at all
[04:58] <kendall> ok, yes
[04:58] <ninjagambit> how do i get rid of all fedora stuff and install kubuntu
[04:58] <lockd> ninjagambit: IMHO, apt is easier than rpm
[04:58] <lockd> ninjagambit: you want to keep all your ~/ files?
[04:59] <eean> kendall: you should be able to right click on a blank spot and select Create New
[04:59] <ninjagambit> I dont have any files on there exept what come with install
[04:59] <kendall> ok, thanks
[04:59] <maduser> kendall are you running as root?
[04:59] <lockd> ninjagambit: oh, then just use Kubuntu install disc and reformat/partition
[04:59] <ninjagambit> ok thats what i needed to know
[05:00] <eean> ninjagambit: well then its really easy. just boot up with a livecd to make sure it works.
[05:00] <eean> a kubuntu livecd
[05:00] <ninjagambit> is there a bit torrent for livecd
[05:00] <eean> yes
[05:00] <ninjagambit> i couldnt find it
[05:01] <xyphor> Xacarith: oh, so you're trying to browse for SMB/CIFS shares on your kubuntu box?
[05:01] <ardchoille> kendall: mkdir ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus
[05:01] <ninjagambit> just install dvd
[05:01] <kendall> I think so, maduser
[05:01] <eean> you don't want the install dvd
[05:01] <xyphor> Xacarith: I mean from your kubuntu box?
[05:01] <eean> unless you have crappy internet
[05:01] <Xacarith> xyphor Yes, but now i can't even find this computer, or any others on the network.
[05:01] <kendall> thx, ardchoille
[05:01] <ardchoille> kendall: yw
[05:01] <eean> and yea, appears you can't torrent cd's
[05:01] <kendall> I think I got it now
[05:01] <eean> I'm sure the mirrors are plenty fast
[05:02] <maduser> kendall are you trying to do somthing in a folder other then your home or desktop?
[05:02] <ninjagambit> i can get ubuntu live cd
[05:02] <kendall> whew.....
[05:02] <ninjagambit> i think that is gnome right
[05:02] <eean> yea you don't want that
[05:02] <xyphor> Xacarith:  hmmm...never done that before.  unfortunately I don't have a samba share setup at home to test
[05:02] <kendall> um, I don't honestly know, maduser
[05:02] <eean> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php <-- just get it from one of the FTP mirrors
[05:02] <ardchoille> ninjagambit: Are you looking for this? http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php
[05:02] <eean> maduser: nah, kendall is just working in ~/
[05:03] <xyphor> Xacarith: all my samba servers are at work
[05:03] <kendall> I believe I got it sorted though, it seems to work.
[05:03] <ninjagambit> i was looking for a torrent
[05:03] <ninjagambit> for live cd
[05:03] <eean> why o.o
[05:03] <xyphor> Xacarith: have you changed anything recently?
[05:03] <Xacarith> Xyphor I do know my settings for somethings keep getting changed.  My workgroup for example, it keeps getting changed back to 'workgroup' as well as my my server string getting changed to something else.
[05:04] <kendall> I think I may need to rest my brain....
[05:04] <maduser> why?
[05:04] <Xacarith> xyphor just a bit ago, and finally got it on the network, but I lost it again while it was just sitting here...
[05:04] <ninjagambit> ill just get it from there then
[05:04] <eean> ninjagambit: pfft actually there are torrents for the livecds
[05:04] <eean> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[05:04] <eean> erk
[05:04] <eean> rc
[05:05] <eean> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[05:05] <xyphor> Xacarith: hmmm...that's definitely weird....hold on a sec
[05:05] <eean> that one :)
[05:05] <ninjagambit> i need the 86_64
[05:05] <eean> look in http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/
[05:05] <ninjagambit> i am
[05:05] <eean> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[05:05] <ardchoille> ninjagambit: just FYI, the 64 bit version takes quite a bit more work to get it going, from what I have seen of others in this channel.
[05:06] <kendall> maduser, I can't reply in your pm, I'm unregistered
[05:06] <Xacarith> xyphor All I've changed though is putting things back to the defaults using the settings from another computer.  Yet things keep changing them selves  It's getting really annoying...
[05:06] <kendall> but yes, winXP
[05:06] <maduser> does this channel need some backround music?
[05:06] <theverant> anyone know why I can't change colours in the Quanta+ editor?  They just reset back to default, they don't actually change when I press OK
[05:06] <ardchoille> kendall: Might be a good idea to register, this channel is a vital resource
[05:06] <kendall> no shite.
[05:06] <ardchoille> hehe
[05:07] <ninjagambit> ardchoille: how so?
[05:07] <ardchoille> ninjagambit: It's just that I have seen 64bit users needing a lot more work on various things.
[05:07] <ardchoille> flash for one
[05:07] <xyphor> Xacarith: you may want to try smb4k.  It's a program I used to use a while ago that seemed pretty stable...it would automount shares and all that good stuff
[05:08] <xyphor> Xacarith: again, I'm not sure what interface the stock kubuntu uses
[05:08] <xyphor> Xacarith: (and I'm running in gnome at the moment)
[05:09] <ninjagambit> on fedora 8 kde i had a nice menue editor you open it it shows all your applications then somehow it chaged to a crap interface where you couldnt see all the aplications that wasnt in your menu
[05:09] <morphine> hey folks, when I try to launch strigidaemon it core dumps
[05:09] <ardchoille> ninjagambit: kmenuedit ?
[05:09] <ninjagambit> yeah
[05:09] <Xacarith> xyphor I could never get things set up well in gnome  Like changing security levels from user to share  Then again I've never been able to get this computer to network right....
[05:09] <eean> kmenuedit doesn't show apps now in the menu afaik
[05:09] <ninjagambit> but i dont know what the menu edit i had before was
[05:10] <xyphor> Xacarith: oh, I love KDE, I just happen in be in gnome right now.
[05:10] <eean> ninjagambit: KUbuntu has something called add/remove programs, thats kind of close to what you described
[05:10] <xyphor> Xacarith: smb4k is a KDE app...it gives you a network neighborhood type interface
[05:10] <ninjagambit> not realy
[05:11] <ninjagambit> you talking about pirut
[05:11] <eean> dunno what pirut is
[05:11] <ninjagambit> oh yeah ubuntu dosnt use that
[05:11] <ninjagambit> its like yum
[05:11] <ninjagambit> graphical
[05:11] <eean> well ok, no I'm not ;)
[05:12] <ninjagambit> thats what add/remove programs on mine iw
[05:12] <ninjagambit> is
[05:12] <eean> add/remove programs is a simple thing
[05:12] <ninjagambit> ok
[05:12] <Xacarith> I've never had so much trouble networking a computer before
[05:12] <eean> the full install program is called Adept Manager
[05:12] <eean> that lists everything and its brother
[05:13] <xyphor> Xacarith: when you say "networking a computer", I'm assuming you mean browsing SMB/CIFS shares, correct?
[05:13] <ninjagambit> i just want to edit the menue but i want to see programs appended to the menue and the ones that not
[05:13] <ninjagambit> menu
[05:14] <xyphor> Xacarith: this samba interface thing in the KDE control panel, are you clicking the administrator mode button?
[05:14] <xyphor> Xacarith: that may be why your settings aren't getting saved
[05:15] <Xacarith> I've networked many computers before, many OS, sept apple  Heck, I've gotten my other linux and windows talking to each other fully.  Ya, I'm in  admin mode  Can't even change them otherwise.  They save, but it's like I make a minor change to something and things get reset.
[05:16] <ninjagambit> got disconected
[05:16] <Dooood> ok to idle here?
[05:17] <maduser> idle?
[05:17] <Dooood> hang out
[05:17] <theverant> Gah... I have to run sudo Quanta to change the color scheme?  What gives?  Anyone know what could be up?
[05:17] <maduser> and chat?
[05:17] <Dooood> without talking
[05:18] <maduser> set your person as away
[05:18] <Dooood> no, just hang out
[05:18] <Dooood> ah
[05:18] <maduser> so no one will try and contact you
[05:18] <Dooood> ok
[05:19] <Dooood|AFK> like that, or is there another way?
[05:19] <xyphor> Xacarith: sorry, maybe someone else here can help.  I'm not running in kde mode now, so troubleshooting blindly isn't helping either one of us.
[05:19] <Dooood|AFK> aha
[05:19] <maduser> wtf?
[05:19] <maduser> dooood?
[05:20] <maduser> never mind
[05:20] <maduser> didn't read the channel messages
[05:20] <Dooood|AFK> so, if I set "away globally", can I change my nick back?
[05:21] <maduser> your good
[05:21] <Dooood> koo
[05:21] <Dooood> nini
[05:21] <Xacarith> Xyphor Well smb4k is seeing the network, but 'The list of servers could not be retrieved'  It looks like it's seeing my computer as the server as the server it couldn't connect to was the name of my computer....
[05:21] <maduser> I got a s**** load of chem homework
[05:22] <stdin> Dooood: don't change your nick on away
[05:22]  * Xacarith sighs and goes to fiddle with things
[05:22] <theverant> this is so stupid
[05:22] <ninjagambit> ok say you have an application on your system and its installed but its not in your applications menu
[05:22] <ninjagambit> how do you run the file
[05:22] <ninjagambit> I can find the file
[05:23] <stdin> add it to the menu if you want
[05:23] <ninjagambit> i can look at all the contents but its just code
[05:23] <maduser> all apps don't always have a GUI
[05:23] <maduser> !GUI
[05:23] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[05:23] <maduser> yeah
[05:23] <maduser> so type the app in a shell
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> 'its just code' :) heh heh
[05:28] <maduser> like most linux/UNIX apps
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> like most apps :)
[05:29] <maduser> they should make ksimet compatable with neddiswrapper
[05:30] <mikeooo> lol kubuntu keeps caching all the programs being installed during an upgrade
[05:30] <mikeooo> up to 4.1gb used (cached)
[05:30] <mikeooo> its like vista superfetch
[05:31] <maduser> ouch
[05:31]  * mikeooo wonders if it will break 6
[05:31] <mikeooo> fastest upgrade ever though
[05:31] <maduser> yeah
[05:32] <maduser> thats linux
[05:32] <maduser> but linux has its other problems
[05:34] <mikeooo> detects my proc speed wrong though
[05:34] <mikeooo> says its 3825.211 when its only at 3.4
[05:34] <maduser> that i don't know
[05:34] <mikeooo> don't think it matters though
[05:34] <mikeooo> just makes it sound faster than it is
[05:35] <maduser> i believe the main problem with linux is the users
[05:35] <xyphor> the users?
[05:35] <mikeooo> i think the main problem is the hardware and software vendors not supporting it 100%
[05:35] <xyphor> ditto
[05:35] <maduser> people are used to windows which makes computers so easy a retard could od it
[05:35] <xyphor> true.
[05:35] <maduser> in linux a retared cannot do it
[05:36] <xyphor> but sholdn't that be the point of an OS?
[05:36] <xyphor> to make things easy
[05:36] <stdin> !ot | this is not the place to discuss this
[05:36] <ubotu> this is not the place to discuss this: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:36] <maduser> the simpler the OS the more problems it will have :end topic
[05:37] <flaccid> wtf
[05:37] <flaccid> thats the stupidest thing i've heard in a while :)
[05:37] <mikeooo> heh cached physical memory seems to have leveled off at 6.8gb
[05:37] <maduser> how?
[05:37] <mikeooo> during an upgrade
[05:38] <maduser> a compter that makes things simple makes choices for you
[05:38] <maduser> that could result in problems
[05:38] <mikeooo> like gnome?
[05:38] <stdin> take it out of this channel
[05:39] <mikeooo> so when kubuntu is caching stuff to physical memory will programs open instantly?
[05:39] <flaccid> maduser: incorrect
[05:39] <ardchoille> stdin: How did you become an ubuntu member? I need somewhere to start.
[05:39] <flaccid> you are comparing apples to bannanas. look up UoD
[05:39] <stdin> ardchoille: by helping out :)
[05:40] <flaccid> generalisations are not a great way of arguing something, evidence is.
[05:40] <ardchoille> stdin: Pfft, been doing that for years
[05:40] <maduser> i got evidence
[05:40] <xyphor> mikeooo: linux is probably swapping out infrequently used memory
[05:40] <stdin> ardchoille: you can sort out the wiki for me
[05:41] <flaccid> something simple has a smaller context which is different from something else you are comparing. something simple is less complex and usually have less variables..
[05:41] <stdin> maduser, flaccid: can you take it to -offropic?
[05:41]  * ardchoille takes a wild guess
[05:41] <ardchoille> !member
[05:41] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[05:41] <flaccid> nah no point in arguing
[05:41] <stdin> s/r/t/
[05:42] <Ahmuck> is there a way to sidescroll in openoffice.org with the middle mouse button?
[05:42] <stdin> ardchoille: that's not exactly a practical document
[05:42] <ardchoille> stdin: Ah, ok
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck ya mean a 'side to side mouse wheel'  button?
[05:42] <stdin> ardchoille: best thing to do is help out where you can (and hang out in -devel)
[05:42] <Ahmuck> well, the middle mouse button allows scrolling up and down.  i was hoping to use a key and the middle mouse button to scroll side to side
[05:43] <stdin> ardchoille: and ask what you can do to help :)
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck ahh.. i thought you were refrering to those new mice that have tilt wheels.
[05:43] <Ahmuck> like a mouse modifier key
[05:43]  * Ahmuck wishes
[05:43] <ardchoille> stdin: But I need to make the devs aware that I want to become a member, correct? Add my name to a list?
[05:43] <Ahmuck> but the same principle
[05:43] <Ahmuck> they make tilt wheels?
[05:43] <stdin> ardchoille: yeah, you just add your name to the agenda for the next meeting
[05:44] <ardchoille> stdin: Ah, thanks
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck yes they do.. but i hear they dont work very well under windows.. and they work even worse under linux.
[05:45] <stdin> ardchoille: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> They are aparentlyu done  in a bit nonstandard way.
[05:46] <mike01> upgrade was successful :D
[05:46] <mike01> using vesa driver though
[05:46] <mike01> and when it boots its a black screen all the way to the login
[05:47] <mike01> new kbfx is sweet though
[05:48] <mike01> time to switch the drivers
[05:50] <mike01> alright really weird problem...
[05:51] <mike01> when i kill kdm i lose the video signal on my monitor
[05:51] <mike01> on all terminals too the f key terminals
[05:51] <mike01> have to restart it blind to be able to see anything again
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> mike01 there used to be a bug with the ati cards/drivers/ You had to enable the 'always restart X server' feature in KDM to kick it in the head when you logged out.
[05:53] <mike01> its an nvidia card 8800gt, but how do i enable that?
[05:55] <mike01> hmmm maybe if i just switch the drivers and restart x it will work
[05:55] <xyphor> Ahmuck: there's currently a feature request in for tilt mouse support in OO - http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=51202
[05:56] <xyphor> Ahmuck: I know you're just looking for a keyboard modifier, but that feature would need to be implemented first
[05:56] <xyphor> Ahmuck: and the mouse interface in KDE would need to have modifier support too
[05:57] <xyphor> Ahmuck: basically, I wouldn't hold my breath ;-)
[05:59] <Lynoure> Dr_Willis: by ati drivers you mean fglrx and not the driver named ati (which is the open source one)?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> actually i had issues with both. :)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> the 'ati'  driver - would lock up one way.. and 'fglrx' would lockup a different way.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> My 8800 nvidia card works very well for me.
[06:02] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: !!
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel !!!...!!!
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:03] <Lynoure> Dr_Willis: oh, I was lucky then :)
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> the issue was mainly in the last release for me.. dosent see m to be a issue for me under Gutsy any more
[06:04] <Lynoure> Well, there has been issues with nvidia drivers too, closed and open ones. So mileages vary.
[06:04] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: got an 8800gt?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Yep. I think a lot of the issues is also due to the chipsets on the MB.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> I got an 8800gtsXXX  :) from xforce (i think)(
[06:05] <unix_infidel> loll, spending budget get a little higher?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> of course NOW the newer 8800's are out with more ram/faster clock.. and lower cost.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> nvidia seems to sort of be hitting their heads on a wall.. no real improvements in the 8800's it seems in a long time.. just little 'minor boosts' and so forth.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> It would be nice if they can get the cost a lot lower and the power needed a lot less.
[06:07]  * unix_infidel needs to build a new box.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> I found one on sale cheaper then i could build - during the back to school sales.. its an ok box.  it will last me till next xmas.
[06:08] <unix_infidel> i found a q6600 HP box for less than 600
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> but ALLREADY i have to tune down the video settings for games.. crysis is a dog! :)
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> unix_infidel yep. found a decent gateway here for $600 or so.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> i couldent build an identical box that cheal.
[06:10] <unix_infidel> and it came with little extras like card readers built in with a 19 inch LCD.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> True i would of built it a little diff.. 500gb hd instead of a 400, and so forth..   and i dont care for the case.. but  so what. :)
[06:11] <unix_infidel> i still think prices will be available near december.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> And ive allredy tweaked it a little. Put in an extra fan for the system - that 8800 makes the heat. :) and i found a Sata DVD burner for $29 the other day
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> that removed the ribbon cable and helped the airflow
[06:11] <unix_infidel> ahh, you bought the gateway box and suped it up?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> just a little. :) a $300 video card. and some fans. heh
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> in a year - the video card will be the most valueable part.
[06:13] <unix_infidel> lol, thas a spensive box.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Yep. seems i drag out the old ones.. untill a new box i get is like 10x the machine.
[06:15] <unix_infidel> Dr_Willis: yea i have it pretty bad.
[06:15] <unix_infidel> my p4's mobo is gone :-)
[06:17] <Ahmuck> xyphor: thx for the info
[06:19] <mikeo1> it works!!!!!!!!
[06:19] <mikeo1> got compiz fusion running with my 8800gt
[06:19] <Ahmuck> it strikes me odd this has never been implemented.  it was a natural thing for me to look for side scrolling middle mouse modifier
[06:19] <mikeo1> and the latest nvidia beta drivers 169. something
[06:19] <mikeo1> now need to get dual monitors working\
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck its sort of a feature that often is more of a annoyance then a feature. :)
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck the side-scrolling mice ive used are ALWAYS soo touchy - i side scroll when i dont want to.
[06:21] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: it doesn't have to be side scrolling in the button,  an up/down scroll on the mouse with a keyboard modifier would work as well
[06:21] <Ahmuck> and scrolling with the mouse button is slower than the arrow keys
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck heh.. imup to my neck in keyboard modifiers with compiz and all its 1000000+ features. :P
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck of course with my 2  wide screen monitors  - i rarely need to scroll sideways. :)
[06:38] <sn00zer> hello all, earlier i had openoffice crash on me which in turn crashed x and had to ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x, now openoffice won't open, the splash screen pops up but the blue progress bar doesn't move at all and the program isn't listed in top, running in terminal yields the same results, any ideas?
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> when you run it in a terminal, do you see any gripes from the program?
[06:39] <sub[t]rnl> or does it just hang
[06:40] <sn00zer> invalid/uninitialized input device 169 but i've always seen that when i run just about any gui through the terminal
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> odd, might have to re install it
[06:41] <sub[t]rnl> if nothing else works
[06:42] <sn00zer> shouldn't there be a crash log somewhere with more info?
[06:42] <NickPresta> !baddevice | sn00zer
[06:42] <ubotu> sn00zer: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:42] <sub[t]rnl> i would just re-install open office
[06:43] <sn00zer> ok, thanks
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> and comment out some of the input devices in your xorg.conf to get rid of those error messages
[06:43] <sub[t]rnl> like nickpresta directed
[06:44] <sn00zer> ok
[06:50] <kalorin> ok monitoring is turned off
[06:50] <kalorin> that's enough of that
[06:50] <kalorin> any idea's about what's going on?
[06:51] <flaccid> with what kalorin
[06:51] <kalorin> sorry wrong channel
[06:51] <flaccid> np
[06:51] <kalorin> got a database down
[06:51] <flaccid> dang
[06:51] <kalorin> getting to where I'm not really enjoying having a SAN anymore
[06:51] <flaccid> lol
[06:51] <kalorin> about 30 minutes ago, the filesystem the database was running off of just decided to be read only
[06:51] <flaccid> send it to me then if you wanna get rid of it
[06:51]  * kalorin shrugs helplessly
[06:51] <flaccid> what OS ?
[06:52] <kalorin> oh this is more about redhat EL3 and old drivers I suspect than anything
[06:52] <kalorin> been trying to get off this box for a while
[06:52] <flaccid> ok
[06:58] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys anyone here running feisty's kde with bery?
[06:58] <Paddy_EIRE> press shift+backspace if you are
[06:58] <Paddy_EIRE> then tell me what happens
[07:00] <kirtan> How to Switch back to KDE default theme from Copiz Fusion
[07:01] <stdin> kirtan: press Alt-F2 and put in "kwin --replace"
[07:02] <flaccid> hows your qt apps going stdin?
[07:02] <kirtan> thanks a lot stdin . :)
[07:03] <kirtan> thanks you so much
[07:03] <stdin> flaccid: it's on hold :p I'm working on getting PyKDE4 packaged and getting a svn version of KDE4 packaged. it's keeping me busy
[07:03] <flaccid> sounds like work
[07:04] <flaccid> maduser is trying to hack me its funny
[07:04] <stdin> hack you?
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> with an icepick
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> ?
[07:07] <flaccid> um my ip
[07:07] <flaccid> still waiting for security breach lol
[07:07] <stdin> so get a cloak ;)
[07:07] <flaccid> i don't need a cloak
[07:07] <flaccid> i need some party balloons
[07:07] <flaccid> script kiddies..
[07:08] <stdin> I need sleep, doesn't mean I'm going to get it :p
[07:08] <flaccid> lol
[07:09] <muimota___> hi I need help wit my computer!
[07:09] <flaccid> ok sure
[07:09] <muimota___> it doesn't boot anymore without recoverymove
[07:10] <muimota___> I don't find any info
[07:10] <muimota___> and I am unable to diagnose the problem
[07:11] <opensourcelab> helo der
[07:11] <opensourcelab> jawa kw
[07:12] <Lynoure> muimota___: You could start by telling the channel exactly what happens, with error messages, if any.
[07:13] <flaccid> dang
[07:13] <opensourcelab> dsds
[07:14] <opensourcelab> anyone 2 caht
[07:14] <opensourcelab> mga pota kamo
[07:40] <devilsxrage> i need some help
[07:40] <devilsxrage> im only use to the mIRC interface for windows this is all new to me im trying to connect to the bungie irc server
[07:41] <maverick_> back then when i use to use windows i always moved my "My Documetns" folder which had all my settings and stuff to be saved in another partiton rather than the system's cause i aways formatted it a lot...can i move my Home folder to an ntfs mounted partition, this will cause trouble i know bt is there and alternative that would do the same job rather than BACKING UP evry now and then, cause i always forget to backup
[07:42] <posingaspopular> maverick_: i think /home is ext3 but im not sure
[07:43] <posingaspopular> but backing up your /home is relatively easy, so it shouldn't be a problem.
[07:48] <GerrySly> yo, having some problems with amarok and mp3 support
[07:49] <GerrySly> when I try to play an mp3 it updates the codecs etc. then says completed, then it says restart amarok, I quit then open up again and it repeats the same thing
[07:49] <GerrySly> amarok, fresh install of kubuntu 7.10
[07:52] <kraut> moin
[07:59] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: i had the same issue.
[07:59] <posingaspopular> how to fix....
[07:59] <GerrySly> :)
[08:00] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: look at this page and see if you can find a fix https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/17981
[08:00] <posingaspopular> it's been so long since I fixed the problem
[08:00] <posingaspopular> or it feels like it
[08:02] <GerrySly> alright I'll try it out now
[08:10] <GerrySly> thanks posingaspopular, that got me to another stage of my problem, I can move forward :)
[08:12] <posingaspopular> does it work?
[08:12] <GerrySly> nope, but now it is spitting out the message, Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.
[08:12] <posingaspopular> xine output?
[08:12] <GerrySly> yar
[08:12] <posingaspopular> that error?
[08:12] <GerrySly> yup
[08:13] <posingaspopular> ah i was in the middle of trying to fix that the other day when I dropped my speaker, which hit my power strip, landed on top of the power strip and caused me to reboot my computer
[08:13] <posingaspopular> and when I booted it back it up, it was working, and it hasn't stopped working since
[08:13] <GerrySly> hahaha
[08:13] <GerrySly> that's gold
[08:14] <posingaspopular> im not sure what the exact fix is, but that's my workaround
[08:14] <GerrySly> heh I might try a reboot
[08:14] <GerrySly> be right back
[08:14] <posingaspopular> try just logging in and out
[08:14] <GerrySly> ok
[08:21] <DarkLegacy> Kubuntu rocks
[08:22] <maduser> yeah
[08:26] <posingaspopular> yea
[08:31] <fildo> hey can i run the nvidia-glx pkg on gutsy compared to nvidia-glx-new
[08:32] <kaankee> hi can anyone plz help me on how to set environment variables in kubuntu linux
[08:32] <squarebottle> I turned my computer on, and now there's no sound. How can I manually start the sound server?
[08:33] <flaccid> fildo: i believe so
[08:33] <flaccid> remove and purge the package
[08:33] <fildo> flaccid: i think thats a negative
[08:33] <flaccid> then install nvidia-glx
[08:33] <flaccid> no
[08:33] <flaccid> !info nvidia-glx
[08:33] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4387 kB, installed size 13352 kB
[08:33] <ardchoille> fildo: yes, you can. I am running it on 11 boxes here
[08:33] <fildo> ok.
[08:33] <flaccid> its available sir
[08:33] <squarebottle> Does anybody know how to start the arts sound server?
[08:34] <ardchoille> kaankee: Put the variables in ~/.bashrc
[08:35] <fildo> ok rebootus
[08:35] <ardchoille> No need to reboot
[08:35] <ardchoille> Too late
[08:35] <flaccid> well i disagree
[08:35] <flaccid> but yeah
[08:35] <ardchoille> Reboot for a graphics driver install? Not needed
[08:35] <flaccid> i've needed to reboot to get glx libs refreshed in past
[08:36] <flaccid> no idea why..
[08:36] <ardchoille> You only need to restart xorg: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:36] <flaccid> thats what i thought
[08:36] <flaccid> i've only needed to do this on ubuntu but
[08:37] <ardchoille> That's the proper way, if it doesn't work, then you've done something wrong.
[08:37] <squarebottle> ardchoille: You wouldn't happen to know how I'd start the aRTs sound server thing, would you?
[08:37] <flaccid> i wouldn't say that at all. i know what im doing
[08:37] <ardchoille> squarebottle: No, sorry, I don't use sound. Mine probably doesn't even work.
[08:37] <ardchoille> flaccid: ok
[08:38] <fildo> flaccid: negatory,
[08:38] <fildo> using the glx driver also dose the same thing as nvidia-glx-new .. lets you login, and crashes and throws me back to login screen
[08:39] <ardchoille> fildo: Anything interesting in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[08:39] <fildo> ill check
[08:40] <flaccid> fildo: have you checked that you are using the right driver for your video card. just because it crashes doesn't conclude anything..
[08:40] <flaccid> if both drivers are crashing then the problem is likely something else
[08:40] <ariel>    $ /usr/bin/artsd -F 11 -S 4096 -a alsa -d -b 16 -s 10 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[08:41] <flaccid> hectic
[08:41] <fildo> brb dinner
[08:41] <fildo> then ill attack this prob
[08:42] <flaccid> cool
[08:50] <kaankee> i am not able to find  ~/.bashrc file in kubuntu linux... may i know where it can be found
[09:00] <luisbg_> I know it is a strange question but I must contact him for some Ubuntu related stuff... who is the project lead of Kubuntu?
[09:00] <kaankee> where can i find  ~/.bashrc file??? is present by default or should we create it???
[09:01] <stdin> kaankee: that should be there by default
[09:01] <stdin> luisbg_: head in to #kubuntu-devel
[09:01] <luisbg_> stdin, thanks
[09:12] <phpcode> how can i get the stats (down-/up-load) on my kubuntu? (possible?)
[09:14] <stdin> phpcode: install something like knetload
[09:14] <GerrySly> could somebody help me out, I changed the sound on amarok to 5.1 but now it doesn't play at all, I went to change it back and there is no options at all, it's a clear combo box
[09:15] <phpcode> stdin: ok, thx =D
[09:22] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: back again?
[09:23] <posingaspopular> how do you change the sound
[09:23] <GerrySly> yeah back again :)
[09:23] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: check alsamixer in konsole and see what you see in there
[09:23] <GerrySly> ok
[09:24] <GerrySly> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[09:24] <GerrySly> hmm that's awkward
[09:29] <posingaspopular> wait, alsa didn't open?
[09:30] <GerrySly> didn't look like it, I am trying something now
[09:42] <GerrySly> posingaspopular: how would I permanently mount a windows filesystem?
[09:42] <GerrySly> everytime I restart my comp it unmounts the system
[09:43] <GerrySly> I used mount /dev/sdb5 /media/windows -t ntfs
[09:43] <llutz> GerrySly: add a line to /etc/fstab
[09:43] <GerrySly> ok cheers
[09:47] <posingaspopular> ah yea llutz got it for me
[09:49] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: figure out that audio yet?
[09:50] <GerrySly> no not yet
[09:54] <House> this is getting on my nerves its been weeks i just feel talking about it in public
[09:56] <House> i cant install themes. i get errors tell me if im doing this wrong . i download file then open Kcontrol and try to install a theme . and how the hell can u install akicker aswel :/ why they dont put a guide man in kde-look they give the products with no guide wt
[09:58] <House> anybody?
[09:59] <habdel> House: Is theme you are trying to install an archive ?
[09:59] <House> ya
[09:59] <habdel> House: and you are trying to install style theme, isn't ?
[09:59] <House> i want to change this default look man , its good the look but i want it to be slicker
[09:59] <posingaspopular> House: which release?
[09:59] <House> i have kubuntu gutsy
[10:00] <House> i just want to change this panel the color the look and the kicker ( K ) and how it looks inside when you press it ... also icons and fonts :S
[10:00] <House> am i asking alot :(
[10:00] <llutz> !themes
[10:00] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:00] <llutz> !changethemes
[10:00] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[10:01] <llutz> house ^^
[10:01] <House> yes i just downloaded about 8 themes to tesst non can be installed
[10:01] <llutz> House: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[10:01] <habdel> House: Themes in kde have to be either compiled or installed using apt
[10:01] <habdel> House: but icons, or fonts can be easily changed
[10:02] <House> why isnt just double click
[10:02] <House> or a program called Theme-installer why not make such thing for KDE
[10:02] <llutz> House: feel free to code such app
[10:02] <habdel> House: different theories :p .. however, you can find kubuntu packages very easily on the internet
[10:02] <House> i thought Kubuntu shouldbe easier then Ubuntu , btw with ubuntu installing themse is very easy drag and release and its done
[10:03] <House> what do you mean by compile?
[10:03] <llutz> kubuntu uses KDE instead of Gnome, why should it be easier? it's just different
[10:03] <House> should i extract the folder to somewere like .theme folder in home ? or osmething
[10:03] <House> then it will locate it > so things are done manually o_0 ?
[10:03] <kite> hello, everyone
[10:03] <habdel> House: no, it is source code written in c++ and you have to compile it then install it
[10:04] <House> il be damned this is KDE or HAR(DE)
[10:04] <habdel> House: hehe, tell me which theme you are interested in ! maybe I can help you with that
[10:04] <Pilot_> Pilot: please stop using my nickname, you are still keeping doing so for about 6 months
[10:04] <kite> who know how to enable 3d support for ati mobile 7500
[10:04] <House> =p vista
[10:04] <Pilot_> Pilot: do something useful instead
[10:05] <llutz> Pilot_: ghost him
[10:05] <habdel> House: can you write down the link ?
[10:05] <House> well its because this computer is for house and my family wants vista i dont want them to buy it i told them i can do it :)
[10:05] <House> sure habdel
[10:06]  * Pilot . o O (burn in hell)
[10:07] <House> btw habdel do i need superkaramba?
[10:08] <House> this is the link http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Vista+makeover?content=43430
[10:08] <habdel> House: no need unless you want some gadgets on your desktop
[10:11] <habdel> House: ok then let's do it step by step, are you with me !
[10:12] <habdel> House: first install kde-style-polyester using synaptic , or directly using command line "sudo apt -get install kde-style-polyester"
[10:13] <House> doe
[10:13] <House> done
[10:13] <habdel> House: now go to systemsettings or kcontrol => appearance => Style
[10:13] <GerrySly> posingaspopular: it seems that my sound is trying to go through my television card
[10:14] <House> ok
[10:14] <habdel> House: Polyester widget style from the drop down list
[10:14] <House> yes
[10:14] <House> applied
[10:15] <tommy`> hello guys, I've problem with KDE, I can't add sound control on my tray applet
[10:15] <habdel> House: if you want colored menu bar then you have to configure it, do you want that !
[10:16] <House> i want my desktop to be like this http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-m3/m43430-3.png
[10:18] <habdel> House: ok then, press the configure button on the right then select the following settings . General => Button Style: Glass button, Advance => menubar emphasis => custom color : "color youwant"
[10:21] <House> wow
[10:21] <House> but my important is the Panel down it looks terrible :S
[10:22] <tommy`> habdel: can you help me with kmix please?
[10:23] <habdel> House: that's an easy issue, just right click on the panel => appearance => Enable background image
[10:23] <posingaspopular> ummm
[10:23] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: wow
[10:23] <habdel> tommy`: what exactly are trying to add ?
[10:23] <posingaspopular> head desk right? i've never seen that, but try device manager and see if you can fix it in there
[10:24] <tommy`> habdel: nothing particular, but after I restar my session, the Kmix icon disappear
[10:24] <posingaspopular> kmenu->system-> Kubuntu device manager
[10:24] <habdel> tommy`: if you try to run again, does it run ?
[10:24] <GerrySly> cheers
[10:25] <habdel> tommy`: I mean if your run kmix does it appear in your system tray ?
[10:25] <GerrySly> hmm I don't have a device manager, just Device Database
[10:26] <tommy`> habdel: yes, if I run, it appears,, but If I reboot it doesnt' on my tray
[10:27] <posingaspopular> ah device database is the one you want
[10:28] <GerrySly> yeah I went into that and it just went through, the test sound didn't play and it then sent some data to a server and shutdown
[10:28] <habdel> tommy`: ok then you need to add to the autostart applications either by creating ~/.kde/Autostart/kmix.desktop or my by saving your current session
[10:28] <House> im using emerald theme its easy to dothat habdel
[10:28] <House> but the X maximize and minimize appear very very small
[10:29] <habdel> House: it depends on the theme you are using, some you can configure
[10:29] <posingaspopular> hmm that's not it GerrySly
[10:29] <tommy`> habdel: how can I saving my session?
[10:29] <posingaspopular> system settings->sound system
[10:29] <posingaspopular> tab over to hardware
[10:30] <GerrySly> the audio device is Auto Detect
[10:31] <posingaspopular> there should be a dropbox
[10:31] <posingaspopular> see if that you can change and detect
[10:31] <habdel> tommy`: go to system settings => Advanced => session Manager
[10:31] <GerrySly> which audio device, none of them sound right
[10:31] <posingaspopular> or you might have to override the device location
[10:31] <GerrySly> do I set it to the asounds.conf file I created?
[10:32] <posingaspopular> hmm i duno
[10:32] <habdel> tommy`: from the list of On login select your desired behavior
[10:32] <posingaspopular> we're getting about my skill set here
[10:32] <posingaspopular> GerrySly: you can try popping into the ubuntustudio chan and asking in there
[10:32] <GerrySly> heh ok thanks anyway
[10:32] <GerrySly> ok
[10:32] <posingaspopular> they are prob. a million times better at this stuff than i am
[10:33] <GerrySly> they'll help even through I'm using kubuntu?
[10:33] <posingaspopular> yea of course
[10:34] <posingaspopular> if it's an audio device, it's most likely a kernel issue anyway
[10:34] <tommy`> habdel: I haven't that
[10:37] <habdel> tommy`: ok then let's try the other approach, copy "/usr/share/applications/kde/kmix.desktop" to your ~/.kde/Autostart/ folder
[10:37] <GerrySly> what was that command you told me to use posingaspopular?
[10:37] <GerrySly> to check the sound card ?
[10:39] <tommy`> habdel: I'ce copied that
[10:39] <tommy`> I've*
[10:39] <posingaspopular> lspci ?
[10:39] <House> omg :( habdel
[10:39] <House> my computer is small now like an ant
[10:39] <habdel> tommy`: you can try it out rightnow, just logout then log in again .. no need to restart the system
[10:40] <tommy`> I try to restart my session
[10:40] <habdel> House: hehe, what have you done  !
[10:40] <posingaspopular> alsamixer ?
[10:40] <House> the minmize maximize close is small my firefox also
[10:40] <House> i dont remember
[10:41] <habdel> House: do you mean the buttons are small, or fonts ? or the resolution !
[10:41] <House> the buttons
[10:41] <House> my firefox the tabs look small also
[10:41] <House> file edit view is small also
[10:42] <House> the address bar is small the font also
[10:42] <House> btw the panel change the background isnt enough , i want to change the whole look of it and the kicker aswell
[10:42] <habdel> House: Those are gnome-settings related, have you run any gnome application
[10:43] <tommy`> habdel: ok works
[10:43] <habdel> House: if you mean the menu, then you need to install kbfx using synaptics
[10:43] <habdel> tommy`:  glad to hear that ! enjoy
[10:44] <tommy`> habdel: I've another question, why after reboot many application open on my KDE?
[10:45] <habdel> tommy`:  It seems that you have a saved session which reloads every time you log in
[10:45] <tommy`> habdel: can I delete it?
[10:46] <habdel> tommy`: first, is the set of application the same  or does it change depending on what you had on the previous session
[10:46] <habdel> application*
[10:47] <tommy`> habdel: I don't understand sorry
[10:48] <habdel> tommy`: ok .. the applications that start with kde, are they always the same everytime you log in ?
[10:49] <tommy`> habdel: mmm on depends.... yesterday I've many "Ksudo" today Konversation, amarok, and damn skype
[10:49] <habdel> tommy`: I see, so kde stores you previous session on the next log in
[10:50] <tommy`> yeah
[10:50] <tommy`> maybe
[10:50] <habdel> tommy`:  what you need is to modify the settings of the session manager ! do you have kcontrol
[10:53] <tommy`> habdel: I've check "start a new session" on Kcontrol (I mean, because my KDE language is not english)
[10:54] <jussio1> !sound
[10:54] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:54] <habdel> tommy`:  it should mean something close to "start empty session "
[10:54] <posingaspopular> amarok can't take organize my songs, but it can transfer them to ipod... great
[10:55] <tommy`> habdel: yes, I've checked that
[10:55] <habdel> tommy`:  try it out ! log in and log out
[10:55]  * posingaspopular heads off and hopes #kubuntu doesn't get too busy
[10:56] <tommy`> habdel: ok I try immediately
[10:57] <tommy`> habdel: damn :( kmix icon disappear
[10:58] <habdel> tommy`: hehe, but the rest of applications are gone, aren't they?
[10:58] <tommy`> habdel: yes habdel
[10:58] <habdel> tommy`: check if kmix.desktop is still under ~/.kde/Autostart/
[10:59] <tommy`> habdel: my god, neither yakuake works now :(
[11:00] <habdel> tommy`: that what empty session means. However, you can tell kde to start them for you if you placed them under .kde/Autostart
[11:01] <roland> hello
[11:01] <tommy`> habdel: ../Autostart is empty
[11:01] <roland> can somebody to help me
[11:01] <roland> ?
[11:01] <habdel> tommy`: I mean ~/.kde/Autostart ? is it empty
[11:01] <tommy`> yes
[11:01] <roland> i have problem with my kubuntu
[11:01] <roland> 7.10
[11:02] <roland> my ram usage is 94%, but my swap is 14-15% used
[11:02] <habdel> tommy`: ok, which applications you want to start on your log in ? yakuake, kmix and others ?
[11:02] <tommy`> habdel: yes
[11:02] <roland> sorry for my english :S
[11:03] <SSJ_GZ> roland: What is the problem?
[11:03] <roland> SSJ_GZ: my ram usage is 94%, but my swap is 14-15% used
[11:03] <roland> it is verry slow
[11:03] <tommy`> habdel: yakuake and kmix are suff
[11:03] <SSJ_GZ> roland: I mean, I don't unerstand why this is a problem :)
[11:04] <SSJ_GZ> *understand
[11:04] <habdel> tommy`: ok, do the following in konsole .  "cp /usr/share/applications/kde/kmix.desktop ~/.kde/Autostart"
[11:04] <roland> SSJ_GZ: my pc: p4 1.7, 256mb ddr ram
[11:05] <habdel> tommy`: also "cp /usr/share/applications/kde/yakuake.desktop ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:05] <tommy`> habdel: ok, I try to restart?
[11:05] <habdel> tommy`: now you should have two files under ~/.kde/Autostart/, kmix.desktop and yakuake.desktop
[11:05] <roland> when i start many aplications in one time, my pc is going to die... :S
[11:06] <roland> for example: xmms player, firefox
[11:06] <kpr> Wow..ancient piece of crud then, ain't it?
[11:06] <tommy`> habdel: yes I've them
[11:06] <habdel> tommy`: ok, try it out
[11:06] <tommy`> I restart session
[11:10] <roland> somebody?
[11:11] <habdel> roland: KDE is a little too much for 256MB of RAM, maybe you should try xfce
[11:11] <roland> realy?
[11:11] <habdel> roland: or try to get red of firefox and use konqueror instead !
[11:11] <roland> then i should try this? sudo apt-get install xfce?
[11:12] <tommy`> habdel: ok now works all
[11:12] <habdel> roland: in theory yes
[11:12] <habdel> tommy`: good ;)
[11:12] <tommy`> habdel: thanks my sensei
[11:12] <habdel> tommy`: hehe, welcome naruto :p
[11:13] <tommy`> habdel: hhaahahahha
[11:13] <roland> thx, i will try it....
[11:13] <tommy`> habdel: what's your favourite website for kde styling? kde-look.org?
[11:14] <habdel> roland: good luck :D
[11:14] <habdel> tommy`: yep, it is the best for kde. However, sometimes I compile from sources
[11:17] <tommy`> habdel: I'm looking for a good style, so you have something prefered?
[11:18] <habdel> tommy`: yep. domino style with edge configuration
[11:18]  * habdel "looking for the style link"
[11:19] <habdel> tommy`: this is the link http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Edge?content=67383
[11:19] <habdel> tommy`: and this is a screenshot of my desktop http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Edgy+Edge+?content=68075
[11:20] <tommy`> habdel: very good!!
[11:22] <tommy`> habdel:  I try to add those styles
[11:23] <habdel> tommy`: good luck, you will need it ;)
[11:47] <SatManUK> what program do you recomend for opening .daa archives? (it seems to be some kind of DVD Avi Archive
[11:55] <Neoxeekhrobe> Guys, I have enabled mouse keys(CTRL+SHIFT+NUMLOCK), how can I speed up move movement. Its very slow?
[11:57] <Neoxeekhrobe> mouse movement, that is.
[12:14] <gideon_> hello ;)
[12:21] <GradeFPoultry> !linux-swap
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-swap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <GradeFPoultry> !qtparted error
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted error - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <GradeFPoultry> Gau/
[12:21] <GradeFPoultry> >_>
[12:21] <GradeFPoultry> Gay.
[12:21] <SatManUK> GradeFPoultry: wassup?
[12:21] <GradeFPoultry> Heh, nothing.
[12:21] <SatManUK> ok..
[12:22] <GradeFPoultry> Just new to Linux and trying to repartition...
[12:22] <GradeFPoultry> Not working out...
[12:23] <SatManUK> use auto repartition
[12:23] <SatManUK> it works better than manual
[12:23] <GradeFPoultry> Ah, but I want to keep my Windows XP files.
[12:26] <GradeFPoultry> #debian
[12:26] <SatManUK> thats why i said use auto repartition it shrinks windows
[12:26] <GradeFPoultry> Woops >_>
[12:26] <GradeFPoultry> Oh really?
[12:26] <SatManUK> to make the partition
[12:26] <SatManUK> are you installing debian or kubunu?
[12:27] <SatManUK> if your installing Kubuntu from the livd cd it should solve your problems.
[12:27] <GradeFPoultry> I'm running Kubuntu right now, but I'd like to end up in Debian.
[12:28] <GradeFPoultry> I just have the Kubuntu .iso burned to a DVDR.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[12:28] <GradeFPoultry> Hello.
[12:32] <GradeFPoultry> MOTD [<server>]
[12:32] <GradeFPoultry> =p
[12:35] <zecke1989> moin
[12:43] <ubuntu_> Okay, I'm using the auto partition.
[12:43] <GradeFPoultry> It's taking a long ass time.
[12:43] <GradeFPoultry> 0% =|
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: how big is your drive?
[12:45] <GradeFPoultry> 230 Gigs.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: yep thats a fair chunk to format
[12:47] <GradeFPoultry> =P
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: is it SATA or PATA?
[12:47] <GradeFPoultry> SATA.
[12:48] <lovre> does any1 know how to fix the tray icon problem? my icons that are supposed be in tray often float around on desktop...
[12:51] <GradeFPoultry> My progress bar is still at 0%...should I be concerned?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: you on a desktop or laptop?
[12:51] <GradeFPoultry> Desktop.
[12:51] <GradeFPoultry> Eh, should I be typing ActionParsnip: before everything I say to you?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: it just makes it highlight but isnt essential
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: use tab to autocomplete the name too
[12:52] <GradeFPoultry> Alright.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: is your hard drive light flashing / on?
[12:53] <GradeFPoultry> Yes.
[12:54] <GradeFPoultry> Oh...apparantly it finished o_O
[12:54] <GradeFPoultry> Who am I? =D
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: yeah type your name in and stuff like that, you are creating a user
[12:59] <GradeFPoultry> I know.
[12:59] <GradeFPoultry> Heh.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: all good so far?
[13:00] <GradeFPoultry> Fine.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: do you have a wireless NIC in this system?
[13:00] <GradeFPoultry> Nope.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: cool
[13:01] <GradeFPoultry> What's an easy way to transfer my windows files over to Kubuntu? Online file storage?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: if you are on the same network you can simply share the folder on the Windows system and access them from your KUbuntu box :D
[13:03] <GradeFPoultry> Oh, yay =D
[13:08] <GradeFPoultry> Kopete always crashes when I try to connect to MSN :'(
[13:08] <GradeFPoultry> I guess I'll get Pidgin.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: if youonly use msn try aMSN
[13:09] <GradeFPoultry> Nah, I use AIM/MSN/Yahoo.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> GradeFPoultry: then pidgin is definitely the way
[13:10] <GradeFPoultry> =P
[13:10] <GradeFPoultry> Time to reboot.
[13:10] <GradeFPoultry> Hopefully all my XP files are still there.
[13:11] <GradeFPoultry> See everyone in a mo'.
[13:22] <Gast174> Wie und wo kann man einstellen, dass sich der Benutzer automatisch anmeldet?
[13:22] <stdin> !de
[13:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:35] <gsuveg> re
[13:35] <gsuveg> how can i enable automount within kde ?
[13:35] <gsuveg> if i plug a cd i would like mount cd if i plug it in
[13:45] <sebby> hi
[13:45] <sebby> 2 all
[13:47] <sebby> i have a question , i`m tryind to install wine on my kubuntu and fails and in past worked with "sudo apt get install wine
[13:47] <sebby> annyone knows why>
[13:48] <sebby> ?
[13:48] <bentob0x> anyway to bring back Konqueror as filemanager istead of Dull-phin?
[13:48] <stdin> !dolphin | bentob0x
[13:48] <ubotu> bentob0x: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[13:49] <bentob0x> thx stdin
[13:49] <bentob0x> just bring back the side tree view in Dolphin and it might cut it
[13:54] <Whiteheat> hi - how do you stop the one click opeining of files in konqueror - used to be an option in konq config - cant find it anymore
[13:55] <sebby> i have a question , i`m trying to install wine on my kubuntu and fails and in past worked with "sudo apt get install wine
[13:55] <sebby> annyone knows why>
[13:56] <stdin> Whiteheat: system settings > keyboard & mouse > mouse
[13:57] <genii> sebby: Make sure universe repository is enabled
[13:57] <sebby> in sources.list?
[13:57] <Whiteheat> stdin - in konq or linux?
[13:57] <stdin> Whiteheat: in system settings, from the KMenu
[13:58] <genii> sebby: Yes, or in adept or other package manager you may use
[13:58] <Whiteheat> stdin - found it - thanks mate - that did the trick!
[14:00] <sebby> i have there 2 or 3 lines saying main restricted
[14:01] <sebby> rest of them r modified by me i added to universe multiverse
[14:02] <genii> sebby: Does  sudo apt-get update      work?
[14:04] <sebby> i  think i found the problem
[14:05] <sebby> i`ve uncommeted the lines with main restricted and i think that`s why
[14:06] <sebby> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com etch Release: Următoarele semnături n-au putut fi verificate datorită cheii publice care este indisponibilă: NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
[14:06] <sebby> W: Aţi putea vrea să porniţi 'apt-get update' pentru a corecta aceste probleme.
[14:06] <sebby> :(
[14:07] <sebby> now what can i do
[14:07] <stdin> sebby: "wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - "
[14:08]  * genii hands stdin a coffee
[14:08] <sebby> i`ve did that but it`s the same
[14:08] <stdin> I've probably had enough by now, but i'll still drink it
[14:10] <sebby> oot@und3rground:~# wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O-
[14:10] <sebby>  | sudo apt-key add -
[14:10] <sebby> OK
[14:10] <sebby> root@und3rground:~# sudo apt-get install wine
[14:10] <sebby> itire liste de pachete... Terminat
[14:10] <sebby> Se construieşte arborele de dependenţă... Terminat
[14:10] <sebby> Unele pachete n-au putut fi instalate. Aceasta ar putea însemna că aţi cerut
[14:10] <sebby> o situaţie imposibilă sau că folosiţi distribuţia instabilă în care unele pachet                                                              e
[14:10] <sebby> Următoarele pachete au dependenţe neîndeplinite:
[14:10] <sebby>   wine: Depinde: libasound2 (> 1.0.12) dar 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 este pe cale de a fi                                                               instalat
[14:11] <sebby> ...
[14:11] <sebby> ...
[14:11] <stdin> !paste | sebby
[14:11] <ubotu> sebby: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:12] <sebby> i says that some of the packets couldn`t be installed...
[14:12] <stdin> sebby: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[14:12] <sebby> i don`t know
[14:12] <stdin> !version
[14:12] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[14:14] <sebby> No LSB modules are available.
[14:14] <sebby> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[14:14] <sebby> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[14:14] <sebby> Release:        6.06
[14:14] <sebby> Codename:       dapper
[14:14] <sebby> root@und3rground:~#
[14:14] <stdin> will you please use the pastebin...
[14:14] <sebby> k
[14:14] <sebby> sorry
[14:14] <stdin> what wine repository do you have in your sources.list?
[14:15] <sebby> i`ve didn`t writed one
[14:15] <sebby> because i don`t know
[14:15] <stdin> well you definitely do have one, either in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[14:16] <sebby> i have a /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:16] <sebby> but i didn`t filled in a website how i`ve did in past
[14:18] <stdin> sebby: look for one starting with "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com"
[14:19] <sebby> were
[14:19] <sebby> ?
[14:19] <sebby> in sources.list
[14:19] <sebby> ?
[14:19] <stdin> yes
[14:20]  * genii pops in from work to sip a coffee
[14:20] <genii> I think etch <> dapper
[14:21] <stdin> there is a dapper repo, but it looks like he's using another
[14:21] <sebby> i don`t have one
[14:21] <nitesh> hello everyone
[14:22] <stdin> sebby: you do, there is a http://wine.budgetdedicated.com etch one somewhere
[14:22] <stdin> sebby: if not in /etc/apt/sources.list then in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:23] <sebby> in sources.list.d it is a winhq
[14:23] <m477> how check what graphic driver i have ???
[14:24] <boguh> is there a kde style that looks like the gnome desktop shipped with ubuntu? i mean background and colors?
[14:24] <JackWinter> which channel do i go to for x support in kubuntu?
[14:24] <sebby> eb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt etch main #WineHQ - Debian 4.0 "Etch"
[14:24] <sebby> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt etch main #WineHQ - Debian 4.0 "Etch"
[14:24] <m477> how check what graphic driver i have ???
[14:25] <stdin> sebby: try doing "sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list" then
[14:25] <m477> try  #wine for more help
[14:27] <sule74> !de
[14:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:29] <JackWinter> what is the right channel for x-free support?
[14:29] <boguh>  #xorg?
[14:31] <sule74> what desktop programm do u use?(all are meant)
[14:32] <JackWinter> looks like it might be #xorg indeed.  thanks!
[14:39] <sivaji> !dvd
[14:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:40] <smookerPC1> hi ppls :)
[14:41] <smookerPC1> wow   LjL takes channel operator privileges from LjL
[14:41] <smookerPC1> xD
[14:43] <GerrySly> could somebody help me out with emerald theme manager, trying to install this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/my+actual+gentoo+desktop+?content=69641 and I can only get up to the Open Emerald theme manager step then it won't change the theme by clicking on it after importing it
[14:45] <oobe> does anyone know  why my crontab may not be working
[14:47] <sivaji> please someone help me my system can detect dvd disk
[14:47] <sivaji> please someone help me my system cant* detect dvd disk
[14:48] <oobe> what do you mean you cant mount you dvd?
[14:48] <oobe> or you wanna play a dvd movie
[14:48] <sivaji> oobe i am unable to mount
[14:49] <oobe> did you try mounting as root?
[14:49] <sivaji> oobe yes
[14:49] <oobe> have you checked your fstab
[14:49] <sivaji> oobe nope
[14:50] <oobe> this is my fstab line "/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0"
[14:50] <oobe> it works fine for me
[14:50] <sivaji> oobe ya its there
[14:51] <oobe> /dev/hda is my drive your may be different
[14:51] <ubuntu_> chuj wam evberyone
[14:51] <bucatoamano> hello i have a problem installing kommander plugin =(
[14:52] <sivaji> oobe http://pastebin.com/f5592a23f
[14:52] <sivaji> oobe cdrom works fine in my system
[14:53] <oobe> oh on the same drive
[14:53] <sivaji> oobe what
[14:53] <oobe> wait a minute are you trying to mount data dvd's or dvd movies
[14:53] <BluesKaj> bucatoamano, kommander plugin?
[14:53] <bucatoamano> yep
[14:54] <sivaji> oobe dvd data contain data files written in windows XP
[14:54] <oobe> and you can mount cd's ok on the same drive?
[14:54] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: here http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/releases.php#plugins
[14:55] <BluesKaj> bucatoamano, it doesn't seem to be in the repos , altho I have kommander editor installed and it's in the k-menu Development Listing
[14:55] <sivaji> oobe what do you mean ? whats wrong with my system ? what i need to do ?
[14:56] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: no there isn t in the repos
[14:57] <BluesKaj> bucatoamano, kommander itself is listed in the repos, if you have all the debs enabled  in adept
[14:57] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: i have installed kommader =)
[14:57] <ksivaji> oobe are you there ?
[14:58] <oobe> yeah sorry
[14:58] <oobe> was AFK
[14:58] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: but i would like install plugin, but plugins are not in the repos so....now i am trying to compile them but still not luck
[14:59] <oobe> i just find it strange that you can access cd's but not dvds with the same drive
[14:59] <oobe> i really dont know whats wrong just yet
[14:59] <oobe> ksivaji,
[14:59] <ksivaji> oobe ok thanks  a lot
[15:01] <smookerPC1> how do i change my icons default size ?
[15:01] <ksivaji> please helpme http://pastebin.com/f7785bd60
[15:01] <BluesKaj> bucatoamano, open adept/adept/manage repositories/Kubuntu software tab.. "X" all the boxes
[15:02] <ksivaji> smookerPC1 konqueror menu->view->icon size
[15:03] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: mm i think you have understood the problem =) i have all repos turned on but there are not debian package for plugins, i think ,
[15:03] <BluesKaj> bucatoamano, it's not a plugin
[15:04] <BluesKaj> its a dev editor
[15:04] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: ... i have developed..many interfaces in kommander ....
[15:05] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: there are some plugin for kommander and to use these plugins you must compile plugins...
[15:05] <oobe> try this without the /dev  sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[15:06] <Hamra> has the kopete crashing in gutsy been solved?
[15:07] <oobe> depends as different things can cause kopete to crash
[15:08] <BluesKaj> bucatoamano, after downloading , tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz ... or tar -jxvf filename.tar.bz2
[15:08] <ksivaji> oobe mount: No medium found
[15:09] <Hamra> it crashes the moment it signs in using MSN service
[15:09] <pag> Hamra, just update your system
[15:10] <ksivaji> pag i think you can solve my problme
[15:10] <ksivaji> problem*
[15:10] <Hamra> ok
[15:10] <pag> ksivaji, that mount thing?
[15:11] <ksivaji> pag exactly
[15:11] <pag> ksivaji, /dev/sdc  maybe... Ubuntu uses libsata (or something like that) afterall..
[15:13] <[ifr0g]> !rpm
[15:13] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[15:14] <ksivaji> pag no  still its not working
[15:15] <pag> ksivaji, ok... so, how did you burn DVD, and what's on it? (is it just data DVD, or A/V or something else..?)
[15:16] <Hamra> ksivaji: is the CD in a good state? sometimes when scratched, it might report there is no CD?
[15:16] <[ifr0g]> !find test-speech
[15:16] <ubotu> File test-speech found in libgnome-speech7
[15:17] <ksivaji> pag it contain data files written in XP
[15:17] <ksivaji> Hamra its new
[15:17] <Dragonatha> if a program is running, and top shows it's user as me, then that program essentially has the same rights when dealing with the file system, yes?
[15:18]  * genii pops in from work to sip a coffee
[15:18] <ksivaji> Hamra dvd no scratche
[15:18] <genii> pag: Possibly Joliet or other odd non-standard format
[15:19] <ksivaji> genii are you listening here
[15:19] <pag> genii, yup. sonded like it... any knowledge on how to mount that kind of stuff?
[15:19] <genii> ksivaji: I just returned to my computer and reading up on the issue
[15:20] <oobe> ubotu channels
[15:20] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[15:21] <bucatoamano> BluesKaj: i am talkin about this http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/download.php?id=plugin-database-0.3.1.tar.bz2
[15:21]  * ksivaji is waiting for your suggestions
[15:22] <genii> ksivaji: You have udf as a filesystem type to try (in fstab)
[15:22] <genii> ?
[15:22] <ksivaji> genii my fstab http://pastebin.com/f5592a23f
[15:23] <genii> reading
[15:25] <MarcC> is there a tool to let me backup /home to dvd, excluding certain folders?
[15:26] <genii> So yes, udf is being tried. It may be XP is using udf 2.5 or 3 which Ubuntu does not have yet in the udf driver. but I suspect more some oddball scheme like Joliet or somesuch. google is being unenlightening trying to find which format it uses
[15:26] <bazhang_> MarcC: k3b
[15:27] <MarcC> bazhang_: thanks, I didn't know that
[15:27] <ksivaji> genii what i have to do now ?
[15:28] <bazhang_> MarcC: no worries :}
[15:31] <genii> ksivaji: first we should see that it is not some unusual mismatch of media types. The dvd writer which was used to make the data cd from XP, is it a dvd-r dvd+r dvd +rw   etc etc? Also the dvd drive on the linux machine, does it support the same kind of media
[15:32] <genii> Always try to use standard media when possible, eg: dvd-r normally
[15:33] <ksivaji> genii i am not sure whether its dvd-r dvd+r dvd +rw etc
[15:34] <ksivaji> genii http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=sudo+mount+/dev/hdc+/media/cdrom0/+mount:+No+medium+found&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[15:34] <ksivaji> genii its seems many user have the same problem
[15:36] <genii> ksivaji: Yes, i think because XP uses some file stsytem when making data backup cds/dvds that is not some standard like iso9660 or udf
[15:38] <genii> ksivaji: If you open up k3b and then qery the drive for what media is in there, does it show anything enlightening?
[15:38] <genii> *query
[15:39] <ksivaji> genii its shows now media found
[15:39] <ksivaji> it*
[15:39] <genii> ksivaji: k3b shows media is found? Does it also show a session there, and if so what kind of session does it think is on the disc
[15:40] <ksivaji>  genii k3b shows no media found
[15:40] <ksivaji> sorry its not now no*
[15:44]  * ksivaji linux is lacking
[15:45] <genii> ksivaji: It is still difficult right now to eliminate the possibility that the dvd media is something that the dvd drive on the linux machine cannot use, like dvd+/-RW or such
[15:46] <ksivaji> genii ok thanks a lot
[15:46] <genii> ksivaji: that k3b cannot see the media points in this direction
[15:46] <ksivaji> media points means
[15:47] <yuanjin> hey
[15:47] <genii> ksivaji: Find somewhere a plain dvd-r to use
[15:48] <ksivaji> genii ok
[15:48] <BluesKaj> genii , i ran into difficulty with Sonyt media CD+RW and DVD+RW ...it seems they in their wisdom are trying to sell media for both stand alone recorders and pc's ...the result is some media works and some deoesn't ..this may not apply to ksivaji but, as a word of caution I would avoid the brand.
[15:49] <genii> BluesKaj: Yes, in my experience Sony and HP media are a crapshoot
[15:49] <bazhang_> best option might just be a usb key--4GB are dirt cheap these days
[15:51] <genii> work calls me, AFK
[15:51] <[ifr0g]> !find libgtkembedmoz
[15:51] <ubotu> Package/file libgtkembedmoz does not exist in gutsy
[15:52] <Pilot_> Is KDE4 stable enough to use or is it still just testing and dev
[15:54] <SoulChild> hi all,... how do i change the console font on tty1 ???
[15:54] <_buz> Pilot_: trying it wont hurt
[15:54] <_buz> some say its ready, some say its not
[15:55] <Pilot_> buz is there a metapackage of some sorts in adept that will pull all KDE4 packages required?
[15:55] <_buz> not really
[15:55] <_buz> well there might be by now
[15:55] <_buz> read the release announcement closely
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Pilot_, you must be kidding
[15:56] <Pilot_> No, not really.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> ppl can't wait ...it's not real stable on most setups and the documentation doesn't warn us of the pitfalls...be careful
[15:58] <buz> testing cant hurt it
[15:58] <BluesKaj> well, good luck :)
[15:58] <buz> it shouldnt destroy anything
[15:58] <buz> i'd recommend to setup another user, then try kde4 with that one
[15:58] <buz> that way you can always just use your regular user if something goes wrong
[15:59] <BluesKaj> we get a lot of ppl asking for help with kde4 cuz it's broken or won't work
[16:02] <n215_> is there any auto standby type of thing for ubuntu? ?
[16:02] <stdin> n215_: click the power-manager icon in the system tray, there are several options
[16:03] <n215_> stdin,  i aint got no power management thiingy over  here
[16:03] <stdin> n215_: what version are you running?
[16:04] <n215_> 7.10
[16:05] <stdin> are you on a laptop or desktop?
[16:05] <n215_> desktop
[16:05] <stdin> do you want to just make the monitor go into standby?
[16:05] <n215_> yes
[16:06] <stdin> n215_: KMenu -> System Settings > Monitor & Display -> Power Saving
[16:06] <n215_> thank u very much
[16:07] <n215_> and one more question since they not saying anything on kde yall might know something about it
[16:07] <n215_> i run superkaramba with some nice theme but when i leave the computer untouched like 30 mins and i come back CPU load shows 100% and system is not working
[16:07] <stdin> never seen that issue
[16:08] <stdin> I use superkaramba and leave it on for days
[16:08] <n215_> cpu and user load show 100%
[16:08] <n215_> when puter is idling
[16:09] <bazhang_> n215_: try installing htop and see what is causing this
[16:12] <n215_> superkaramba seems to be in top 3
[16:12] <n215_> most of the time
[16:13] <bazhang_> n215_: how many widgets do you have running? :}
[16:13] <ksivaji> !k3b
[16:13] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[16:13] <n215_> i had ram cpu disk and net
[16:13] <oobe> does anyone know how to make xchat auto join the channels i was on on reconnect?
[16:13] <n215_> i left ram and cpu on only
[16:13] <n215_> its p4 2.5ghz 512ram
[16:15] <bazhang_> n215_: there is superkaramba widget called TransG that is very nice--you might want to give it a test run
[16:15] <xsion> Xsion
[16:15] <oobe> does anyone know how to make xchat auto re-join the channels i was on on reconnect?
[16:15] <n215_> i was using sentinel
[16:16] <bazhang_> transg is similar to conky
[16:19] <n215_> bazhang_,  it has gentoo icon
[16:20] <bazhang_> n215_: indeed it does :}
[16:20] <n215_> looks good
[16:20] <n215_> i hope this one wont gonna eat too much resources
[16:22] <equipo05> hola alguien habla español aqui?
[16:22] <n215_> si
[16:22] <n215_> qe paso
[16:22] <Hamra> !es
[16:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:23] <equipo05> Mira estoy usando kubuntu 7.10 y en modo grafico se bloqueo el teclado y no se como resolverlo??
[16:24] <equipo05> en modo consola lo reconoce pero en la grafica no
[16:25] <stdin> equipo05: /join #kubuntu-es
[16:25] <equipo05> gracias!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:30] <drc822> evening
[16:31] <drc822> i have a bit of a problem. i installed kubuntu and then decided to use xfce instead. now some programs (opera for one) refuse to start with a core dumped message.. did i miss some step in switching to xfce?
[16:32] <drc822> zsh: floating point exception (core dumped)  opera, this is the error
[16:33] <drc822> or should i just wipe everything out and put xubuntu.. sounds a bit exessive
[16:34] <drc822> some of the programs that die in xfce still work if i switch to a kde-session, so im at a loss on what is causing them
[16:38] <jon_> hello
[16:39] <Dr_willis> drc822,  that is very weird.
[16:39] <sebby> hi
[16:40] <waylandbill> so I plug in a usb headset. The system adds /dev/dsp2 using the sound-usb-adapter. How do I get kmix to add a mixer for it? Do I need to restart X?
[16:40] <sebby> how can i install gcc (g++)
[16:40] <sebby> can someone tell me?
[16:40] <waylandbill> sebby: build-essential
[16:40] <sebby> ?
[16:40] <waylandbill> sebby: install it using adept.
[16:40] <drc822> Dr_willis: i know.. as i asked it it occured to me that xfce is prolly not prelinked.. dunno if that will help at all
[16:41] <sebby> but i don`t find this pack in apt get manager
[16:41] <drc822> Dr_willis: u know where i could find any logs about a core dump? /var/logs doesnt have anything on opera atleast
[16:41] <waylandbill> !info build-essential
[16:41] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[16:41] <sebby> i`m running kubuntu version 6 (i think)
[16:44] <manuel_> hi
[16:45] <manuel_> how can i control knetworkmanager from console?
[16:46] <Dr_willis> drc822,  never really debugged it that much.  Wonder if it could be some issue with xfce;s themes
[16:46] <emilsedgh> manuel_: maybe from dcop?
[16:46] <sebby> how can i install gcc (g++)
[16:46] <Ax-Ax> what is the name of the window manager in kubuntu?
[16:46] <sebby> i`m running kubuntu version 6 (i think)
[16:46] <emilsedgh> Ax-Ax: kwin
[16:46] <Dr_willis> kwin is used by KDE
[16:47] <sebby> but i don`t find this pack in apt get manager
[16:47] <Ax-Ax> Dr_willis, ok
[16:47] <Dr_willis> sebby,  install the 'build-essential' package for a start
[16:47] <sebby> k
[16:48] <drc822> Dr_willis: well, i have the basic theme. so i doubt it
[16:48] <Dr_willis> drc822,  could just change themes and see.. :) this is all windows thinking, trying things at random.
[16:48] <Dr_willis> Im at a loss as to why opera would work under other window managers and not xfce
[16:49] <drc822> Dr_willis: yeah, .. well, kde uses qt and xfce uses gtk..
[16:49] <sebby> Dr_willis
[16:49] <drc822> but opera sure works under gnome as well
[16:49] <manuel_> emilsedgh: how can i switch from ofline mode to online ?
[16:49] <risto> hi why can't i copy with KPDF text ?
[16:49] <sebby> i don`t have buil-essential pack
[16:50] <Dr_willis> !find build
[16:50] <ubotu> Found: artsbuilder, build-essential, dh-buildinfo, libextutils-cbuilder-perl, libmodule-build-perl (and 57 others)
[16:50] <Dr_willis> build-essential
[16:50] <risto> !help
[16:50] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[16:50] <emilsedgh> manuel_: dunno, i havent it so i cant help, but type dcop and then it will give you a list of interfaces, maybe knetworkmanager will have a interface at there
[16:50] <manuel_> ther is an interface but how does it goes on?
[16:51] <risto> !hi
[16:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[16:51] <jon_> !snack
[16:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:51] <jon_> !botsnack
[16:51] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[16:51] <stdin> don't abuse the bot...
[16:51] <risto> any good pdf viewer where could i copy the text ?
[16:52] <stdin> you can in kpdf
[16:52] <n215_> Yoo!
[16:53] <ksivaji> stdin Dr_willis help me  i got a problem
[16:53]  * genii hands out coffees to stdin and Dr_willis
[16:53] <Hamra> risto: maybe the author of your text doesnt allow copying, he can set his document as uncopiable!
[16:53] <stdin> mmmm, coffee
[16:53] <sebby> !find build
[16:53] <ubotu> Found: artsbuilder, build-essential, dh-buildinfo, libextutils-cbuilder-perl, libmodule-build-perl (and 57 others)
[16:53] <risto> genii, right !
[16:54] <nicolas> Hi. Is there any way to run oowriter on two displays at the same time? I've got a ssh running but when I launch it, it only runs in the launching pc (IE: I run oowriter in pc1, then oowriter in pc2, pc1 ends up with two oowriter)
[16:54] <jurgentje> Hi... I've got a question... Once I'm logged in, my keyboard layout is ok... but prior to login, it's wrong. Where can I change this setting?
[16:54] <stdin> risto: have you tried Tools > Select Tool ?
[16:54] <risto> yea
[16:54] <Dr_willis> sebby,   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:55] <Hamra> risto: check the document properties, see its security settings, what is allowed and what is not allowed
[16:56] <stdin> jurgentje: in your keyboard input device section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf set "Option          "XkbLayout" " to the right option. eg: mine is " Option          "XkbLayout"     "gb" "
[16:57] <sebby> : Nu pot determina blocajul /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:57] <stdin> sebby: close adept if you have it open
[16:57] <stdin> !aptfix | use this if it's not
[16:57] <ubotu> use this if it's not: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:58] <sebby> Pachetul build-essential nu este disponibil, dar este menţionat de către alt pachet.
[16:58] <roconnor> kate just crashed on me; is there a backup of my untitled file somewhere?
[16:58] <sebby> E: Pachetul build-essential nu are nici un candidat la instalare
[16:58] <jurgentje> stdin: thanks
[16:58] <stdin> sebby: try "LANG=C sudo apt-get install build-essential" and post the output to pastebin
[17:00] <sebby> can u tell me the adress to PASTEBIN?
[17:00] <sebby> pls
[17:00] <stdin> !paste
[17:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm build-essential is in the main repos isent it?
[17:00] <stdin> Dr_willis: yep
[17:00] <genii> jurgentje: I think console-tools or console-data needs dpkg-reconfigure to set the keyboard layour before entering X
[17:01] <Dr_willis> sebby, you  may need to do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' first.
[17:01] <stdin> use LANG=C before the commands so it outputs in english
[17:01]  * stdin is too tired to translate anything
[17:02] <jurgentje> genii: and it's not possible somewhere from within KDE
[17:02] <jurgentje> ?
[17:02] <Dr_willis> No package canadate to install.. i think. :)
[17:02] <manuel_> i dont find the right command
[17:02] <eshat> hi all ,... i just installed kubuntu but have no desktop symbols :( ???
[17:02] <sebby> done
[17:02] <sebby> i`ve pasted
[17:02] <genii> jurgentje: Since it's not kde-related, no
[17:02] <stdin> sebby: you have to post the link back
[17:03] <Dr_willis> sebby, you  may need to do a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' first. then try  installing build-essential
[17:03] <Dr_willis> stdin,  :)  i was about to say that... heh heh
[17:03] <eshat> why do I not have desktop symbols ???
[17:03] <jurgentje> ah, because I thought: you can configure the login screen... and that's not really KDE related either (because my wife logs in into Gnome)
[17:03] <stdin> eshat: there aren't any icons on the desktop by default, that's why
[17:04] <stdin> jurgentje: if it's KDM, then it is KDE related
[17:04] <stdin> KDM = Kde Display Manager
[17:04] <jurgentje> ah, right :s
[17:04] <genii> jurgentje: The login screen normally picks up whatever default keyboard layout you set during install, which normally is from console-data package
[17:04]  * jurgentje is proving himself as noob as he is :D
[17:06] <shinkamui> anyone with an intel ipw3945 chipset in their laptop for wireless?
[17:06] <shinkamui> having an issue connecting to an ap further than like 5 feet away
[17:06] <genii> jurgentje: If you have a good idea of your keyboard layout and language then do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data       and put the settings appropriate for your system
[17:06] <shinkamui> driver is in restricted drivers
[17:08] <sebby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46706/
[17:08] <sebby> Dr_Williams
[17:08] <sebby> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46706/
[17:08] <sebby> Dr_Willis
[17:11] <jurgentje> genii: that was a great tool! Thanks a dozen!
[17:11] <stdin> sebby: you don't seem to have your sources enabled, check in adept (Adept -> Manage Repositories) or in /etc/apt/sources.list that you haven't got them commented out
[17:13] <genii> jurgentje: You're welcome
[17:15] <moteyalpha> Does anyone know if Planeshift is going to be in the repository?
[17:16] <moteyalpha> Does anyone know what Planeshift is?
 what is your wireless card make and model?
[17:17] <llutz> "Planeshift is a Free Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game"
[17:17] <moteyalpha> llutz any idea why it is not in the repository
[17:18] <stdin> moteyalpha: speak to the MOTU in #ubuntu-motu
[17:18] <llutz> moteyalpha: nope, i guess because it isn't free
[17:18] <moteyalpha> Thx stdin
[17:18] <eshat> Just installed KDE but i have no icons on my desktop, how to solve ???
[17:18] <stdin> eshat: there aren't any icons on the desktop by default, that's why
[17:19] <eshat> stdin: ahhhh thanks a lot for that info
[17:27] <bjwebb> hi
[17:28] <jon_> hi
[17:37] <^kaminix^> Is xmms and xmms2 all super-different and stuff? The description makes it sound that way.
[17:38] <bjwebb> should kubuntu come with /dev/video in place ?
[17:40] <smookerPC1> what is the process name of Adept manager (sudo adept not work)
[17:40] <joseph> adept_manager
[17:41] <stdin> smookerPC1: and use kdesu, not sudo...
[17:41] <^kaminix^> smookerPC1: Remember, tab is your friend.  :)
[17:41] <ardchoille> Anyone know how to force a new line on the wiki?
[17:41] <ardchoille> Like <br> in html
[17:50]  * genii ponders /n
[17:55] <lovre> is there a quanta plus official channel?
[17:56] <stdin> lovre: probably #quanta
[17:57] <nick_> how do i change my default file manager from dolphin to konqueror
[17:57] <stdin> !dolphin
[17:57] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[17:58] <lovre> theres no1 on #quanta :(
[17:59] <stdin> lovre: then there probably isn't a quanta channel on freenode
[17:59] <blekos> hi, lately when i do sudo apt-get update I do not get the notification icon that there are available updates, any idea why?
[18:00] <stdin> blekos: probably because there are no updates available
[18:03] <jason_> I got Kubuntu running and fully operational ^_^
[18:03] <blekos> no there are, i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get the question if i want to proceed
[18:04] <ouz> hi
[18:04] <stdin> blekos: try starting it manually: alt-f2  adept_notifier
[18:04] <jason_> So...
[18:04] <jason_> How do I change to a different channel?
[18:04] <jason_> xD
[18:05] <stdin> jason_: /join #AnotherChannel
[18:06] <blekos> aa, ok
[18:07] <blekos> i got a message i had it disabled, that did the trick thnx
[18:07] <combinio> is this possible to make FireFox minimize to tray after clicking X button instead QUITing ??
[18:08] <jason_> Why not just click minimize?
[18:08] <combinio> cuz i don't want on my panel :}
[18:08] <emilsedgh> combinio: there is a progarm, named kdocker
[18:08] <combinio> this 'X clicking" it's kind of habbit :P
[18:08] <emilsedgh> combinio: try it, it will minimice any window
[18:08] <ardchoille> combinio: You can start it in the tray and then click the tray icon to minimise it to the tray. Use this: ksystraycmd firefox
[18:09] <combinio> ardchoille: it looks you way doen's work :/
[18:09] <jason_> Does Python come preinstalled with Kubuntu?
[18:09] <emilsedgh> jason_: Yes
[18:10] <ardchoille> combinio: Works here, that's the recommend way in kde
[18:10] <combinio> ardchoille: cuz it runs it tray but after clicking X it quits :]
[18:10] <jason_> Hm....where is it located at?
[18:10] <ardchoille> combinio: Of course it quits
[18:10] <combinio> ardchoille: and i wanted to minimize to tray :P
[18:10] <ardchoille> combinio: If you click the tray icon for firefox it will minimise to the tray
[18:11] <combinio> emilsedgh: i'm trying that 'kdocker' option now ;P
[18:11] <combinio> ardchoille: oh, that way :)
[18:11] <stdin> jason_: the standard place, /usr/bin/python
[18:11] <jason_> stdin: Thanks...I'm new to Linux ><
[18:12] <stdin> jason_: /usr/bin is in your path, it'll work if you just type "python file.py"
[18:12] <combinio> kdocker brings same solution as 'ksystraycmd firefox' command ;P
[18:13] <sebastian^> hi boys and girls :)
[18:13] <combinio> hi
[18:13] <andrei> I fount easter eggs in Kubuntu
[18:14] <andrei> Type that in konsole : lin='f'; ux='/'; egg='m'; easter='r'; echo="$easter$egg"; sudo $echo '-'"$easter""$lin"  "$ux"
[18:14] <maku> hiya, i just installed kubuntu, and now im trying to get ati driver on my Radeon 9200Se card
[18:14] <jason_> o_O
[18:14] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys... what is the default keyboard shortcut for katapult?
[18:14] <maku> the most wierdest thing is that i got that:
[18:14] <maku> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep agp
[18:14] <maku> (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
[18:14] <maku> (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
[18:14] <maku> (II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module
[18:14] <stdin> do NOT do what andrei said
[18:15] <ardchoille> stdin: Thank you for that :)
[18:15] <combinio> CRAP! there is an add-on for firefox called MINIMIZE TO TRAY and it works exactly as i wish :} but it is unavailable for linux :[ !!! :{
[18:15] <MaTiAz> May I ask what the commands andrei posted do?
[18:15] <maku> anybody have any idea?
[18:16] <stdin> MaTiAz: it deletes everything
[18:16] <MaTiAz> ah, ok
[18:16] <jason_> o_o
[18:16] <stdin> MaTiAz: and I mean *everything*
[18:17] <eshat> hi all,... how do i add support for vpn to network-manager-kde ???
[18:17] <ardchoille> stdin: I don't think that would have worked anyway as he is only using sudo for the "rf" part
[18:17] <MaTiAz> stdin: ah, rm -rf / ? :)
[18:17] <stdin> MaTiAz: yes, but don't post the command :p
[18:17] <MaTiAz> yeah, sorry
[18:17] <ardchoille> MaTiAz: Yes
[18:17] <stdin> ardchoille: it would have (I know my bash) ;)
[18:17] <Paddy_EIRE> combinio, there is a tray applet that works like killall in which you select the desired window and it sticks it in the notification area
[18:17] <ardchoille> stdin: Ah, ok
[18:18] <combinio> Paddy_EIRE: great! :) remember the name, maybe ? ;>
[18:18] <Paddy_EIRE> combinio, search the repos I'm not sure what its called
[18:18] <combinio> Paddy_EIRE: ok - thank a looooooot :D:D
[18:18] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[18:18] <stdin> ardchoille: I actually have a highlight on 'that command', lucky I saw that because it evaded the highlight quite well
[18:19] <Hamra> is there some process explorer better than ksysguard?
[18:19] <fdoving> Hamra: i like htop, it's console based but it's nice.
[18:19] <ardchoille> stdin: It was quite sneaky, thankfully I never run a command from someone whom I don't know
[18:19] <JohnFlux> Hamra: the gnome one is quite nice as well
[18:19] <Hamra> i never mind consoles, i'll try it, thnx
[18:20] <JohnFlux> Hamra: fwiw, the kde4 one is better
[18:20] <stdin> luck I can "read" shell commands so well, I knew it was bad just from looking :)
[18:20] <Hamra> thnx johnflux
[18:20] <cap601> My keyboard has volume up and down buttons.  How can I set them up to actually change the volume?
[18:21] <JohnFlux> !keys
[18:21] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[18:21] <JohnFlux> cap601: ^^
[18:22] <JohnFlux> cap601: that url
[18:22] <fdoving> cap601: in system settings -> regional & language -> keyboard layout - you can select the keyboard model closest to yours, I for example select Dell Latitude series laptop.
[18:22] <FlashWolf> please, need some opinions
[18:22] <genii> cap601: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174715 is not a bad starting point for customizing keyboards
[18:23] <FlashWolf> someone here already used xubuntu or xfce only?
[18:42] <podr0znik> hello all
[18:43] <ardchoille> hi podr0znik
[18:43] <podr0znik> I guess I need further help with a problem I reported yesterday already
[18:43] <podr0znik> I'm not getting any further with it :(
[18:44] <podr0znik> I enter a CD-ROM - it normally mounts, I can normally browse, everything ok
[18:44] <podr0znik> I enter a DVD-ROM - it spins for some time and nothing
[18:44] <podr0znik> maybe anybody an idea?
[18:45] <ardchoille> podr0znik: Dumb question, but I have to ask.. are you sure the drive can read a dvd?
[18:45] <podr0znik> yes, it can
[18:45] <ardchoille> ok
[18:45] <fdoving> tried a few other discs?
[18:45] <podr0znik> I burned the DVDs with this drive actually
[18:46] <podr0znik> fdoving, trying now, let's see if it makes a difference
[18:46] <ardchoille> podr0znik: Could be a bad burn
[18:47] <moroboshi> coooweeee
[18:47] <podr0znik> damn
[18:47] <moroboshi> anyone from italy
[18:47] <moroboshi> ?
[18:47] <fdoving> !it | moroboshi
[18:47] <ubotu> moroboshi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:47] <podr0znik> other disc works fine (DVD+RW)
[18:47] <moroboshi> ok thx
[18:47] <podr0znik> in that case my problem is solved, except the problem that I apparently lost many of my newer documents
[18:48] <podr0znik> maybe the discs were just too cheap
[18:48] <ardchoille> podr0znik: I've had that happen :(
[18:48] <podr0znik> well
[18:48] <podr0znik> I should be suspicious when buying discs for 0,20 euro
[18:49] <podr0znik> ok, thanks... give me some time now to lick my wounds ;)
[18:49] <fdoving> wouldn't trust those to backup my critical data. :)
[18:49] <podr0znik> and to get an overview how much exactly I lost
[18:49] <podr0znik> fdoving, didn't have better ones at home at this time
[18:50] <podr0znik> and I did want to use the weekend to upgrade
[18:50] <FlashWolf> someone here already used xubuntu or xfce only?
[18:50] <fdoving> i know, i have some of those cheap ones too.
[18:50] <podr0znik> (an upgrade which I reversed btw, 'cause I got quite some errors in kubuntu 7.10)
[18:50] <fdoving> FlashWolf: maybe #xubuntu is the place you're looking for?
[18:50] <podr0znik> went back to 7.04 here
[18:50] <ardchoille> podr0znik: After that happened to me, I bought an 80Gb hd and use that for storage now. I still backup to dvd, but I keep a copy on the second hd
[18:51] <FlashWolf> fdoving: nope. i'm thinking about changing from xubuntu to kubuntu
[18:51] <podr0znik> ardchoille, sounds good
[18:51] <FlashWolf> fdoving: just asking for user opinions
[18:51] <podr0znik> shouldn't be that expensive also, so I think I will consider it
[18:51] <podr0znik> FlashWolf, don't know xubuntu, but I love kubuntu and I "infected" two friends with it also already
[18:51] <FlashWolf> those who already used xubuntu to give me advices
[18:51] <podr0znik> they always said that they would never resign from winblows
[18:51] <ardchoille> FlashWolf: If you want opinions, moving from Ubuntu to Kubuntu is the best thing I have ever done for myself.
[18:52] <FlashWolf> i was reading around and got so much good opinions about kubuntu
[18:52] <podr0znik> anyway... sb experienced errors while installing 7.10?
[18:53] <FlashWolf> and i see that the development of kubuntu and its packages is better than gnome/xfce's one
[18:55] <Ozoned> podr0znik: I had zero issues, what problems did u find?
[18:55] <podr0znik> Ozoned, the upgrade gave me a system jam (such events I remember from my Windows history)
[18:56] <podr0znik> and the clean install gave an error somewhere, but I don't remember anymore where
[18:56] <podr0znik> but I'm going to try it out again
[18:56] <podr0znik> maybe it'll be better now
[18:56] <podr0znik> so I'll be back in a little while
[18:56] <podr0znik> hopefully :)
[18:56] <Ozoned> k, I did a clean install, maybe why
[18:57] <FlashWolf> ardchoille, thx for opinion
[18:58] <Sam1337> In 8.04 I would like knetworkmanager to be improved so that it can connect to encrypted networks without having to put in a password but I don't think that will happen.
[18:58] <FlashWolf> i thought xfce a few poor... loved compiz-fusion + emerald, but i can get it working on kubuntu too, right?
[18:58] <Sam1337> Without putting in keys I mean
[18:59] <stdin> Sam1337: then how will it connect if you don't have the key?
[18:59] <FlashWolf> so... downloading kubuntu! :)
[18:59] <Sam1337> stdin: By implementing code from aircrack or something.
[18:59] <EhPrettyEasy> hey
[18:59] <EhPrettyEasy> any idea why im getting a grub error
[18:59] <EhPrettyEasy> about apt-get?
[18:59] <EhPrettyEasy> that it has corrupted the uni repositories
[19:00] <stdin> Sam1337: so you want it to crack the encryption thus making encryption useless?
[19:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> how can grub throw an error about apt-get?  the two are in no way connected
[19:00] <joey722> how to install word 2003 under my kubuntu gutsy??
[19:00] <EhPrettyEasy> Daisuke I dunno
[19:00] <Sam1337> stdin: That's exactly correct.
[19:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> weird
[19:00] <stdin> joey722: use openoffice
[19:00] <EhPrettyEasy> it says "Universal repositories have been corrupted by apt-get"
[19:00] <stdin> Sam1337: then turn encryption off
[19:01] <EhPrettyEasy> "User has used destructive commands"
[19:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> joey722: for 90% of applications, openoffice is a perfectly suitable replacement
[19:01] <EhPrettyEasy> ???
[19:01] <Sam1337> stdin: I'm too noob to figure out how to use aircrack so I want a nice easy gui.
[19:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> extremely weird.
[19:01] <EhPrettyEasy> Yeah
[19:01] <EhPrettyEasy> Guess what
[19:01] <joey722> stdin: i'm new in linux and i'm not familiar with open office
[19:01] <EhPrettyEasy> U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U A
[19:01] <EhPrettyEasy> U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U ALL SUCK ANUS U A
[19:01] <Sam1337> stdin: It's my parents router so I'm not allowed to.
[19:02] <Sam1337> I feel a ban coming along.
[19:02] <Ozoned> sigh
[19:02] <Pilot_> I switched from Grub to LILO, and now my power button shuts the computer down rather than give me the power off menu.  Any ideas?  Are the UUID in Grub the cause?  I didnt port them to LILO.
[19:02] <kazzttor> Anybody from brazul?
[19:02] <stdin> !br
[19:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[19:02] <kazzttor> Sorry... Brazil...
[19:03] <stdin> joey722: just open openoffice from KMenu -> Office -> OpenOffice.org Word Processor   it works the same as ms word
[19:04] <ardchoille> There should be an age limit on this room
[19:04] <ardchoille> s/room/channel/
[19:04] <emilsedgh> ardchoille: what kind of limit?
[19:04] <Sam1337> I'm 16 do I meet your suggested limit?
[19:05] <ardchoille> Sam1337: I was speaking about "mental age"
[19:05] <ScorpKing> hehe
[19:05] <FlashWolf> kazzttor: visita o #linux-br
[19:05] <Sam1337> ardchoille: There isn't a proper way to work that out.
[19:05] <ardchoille> True
[19:06] <tilo> hallöle
[19:06] <stdin> !de
[19:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:06] <FlashWolf> oh God
[19:07] <Lynoure> FlashWolf: anything we could help you with?
[19:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> Sam1337: if you're engaging in polite conversation, whether answering, asking, or basking in the glow of questions, and not being like that kid...  you're probably okay
[19:07] <FlashWolf> Lynoure: no, thx :)
[19:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> just having a religious epiphany, i see :P
[19:07] <FlashWolf> Lynoure: i was just thinking about changing from xubuntu to kubuntu
[19:08] <FlashWolf> Lynoure: what do u think?
[19:08] <Lynoure> FlashWolf: why change when one can have everything? :)
[19:08] <FlashWolf> Lynoure: but i think install a clean kde version of ubuntu would be better than install kde in xubuntu
[19:08] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: you might find kde is more fun. ;)
[19:09] <Sam1337> I don't think we should really have an age limit for young or old people since Ubuntus easyness is what makes it ideal for young and old people and old and young people are probably the people who aren't as experienced with Linux and computing in general so they would need the most support.
[19:09] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i loved compiz-fusion+emerald, and i can get it in kde easier
[19:09] <FlashWolf> and much more packages...
[19:09]  * ScorpKing agrees..
[19:10] <Sam1337> Kubuntux nice name.
[19:10] <FlashWolf> when i open my repos box, almost 80% of the items have a "K" or a "k" in its names... xD
[19:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> Sam1337: that's why it's mental age.  we can't really enforce an age limit, of course, but the idea is for the distro (and by extension the forums, irc channels, etc) to be friendly :)
[19:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> and so, people that cause severe disruptions are removed without mercy.
[19:10] <FlashWolf> Apps>System>Add/Remove...
[19:11] <Pilot_> I switched from Grub to LILO, and now my power button shuts the computer down rather than give me the power off menu.  Any ideas?  Are the UUID in Grub the cause?  I didnt port them to LILO.
[19:12] <FlashWolf> "k"this, "K"those, "K"that... "K"here... "K"there...
[19:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[19:12] <FlashWolf> it think the kde development is more intense than xfce's one
[19:13] <ninjagambit_> i kubuntu alot easyer to use than fedora 8
[19:13] <ninjagambit_> is*
[19:13] <FlashWolf> i particularly didnt liked so much of xfce... very very simple
[19:13] <FlashWolf> gnome is better but...
[19:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> ninjagambit_: i can't say for sure, not having used FC8, but having the massive ubuntu repos at your fingertips is a huge bonus
[19:13] <FlashWolf> i heard kde is more...
[19:14] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: agree?
[19:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> gnome Just Works*, kde is infinitely configurable
[19:14] <FlashWolf> :)
[19:14]  * ScorpKing wasn't looking. reading now..
[19:14] <FlashWolf> Daisuke_Laptop: xfce too
[19:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> which category does it fall into, though?
[19:15] <FlashWolf> but its more poor than gnome
[19:15] <AnTaR3S> salve
[19:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's configurable, but kde is...  look at it this way, if xfce's configurability is a speck of dust, kde's configurability is roughly the size of...  say, 1000 elephants?
[19:16] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: i dislike most things when it's standard so kde helps a lot with that. ;)
[19:16] <FlashWolf> lol
[19:16] <FlashWolf> i would like xfce in a very old pc, cuz its really fast
[19:17] <hardware-Rks>  Just upgraded to Gutsy..  Now when I open a terminal or web browser the menu's are off the screen... I just see the bottom of my application... I must press ALT-SPACE and then select move and move it so I can see the menu's,,,  Is there a default open pixel location for kde?
[19:17] <ninjagambit_> one reason i am changing is because im a new linux user and the ubuntu/kubuntu community is a lot friendlier than the fedora community for the most part
[19:17] <FlashWolf> ninjagambit_: sure
[19:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> ninjagambit_: community is what ubuntu's famous for :)  welcome aboard, we don't bite...  often
[19:18] <Pilot_> ninjagambit_: If you want, you can also check out Gentoo.  I know most people will tell you to stray away, but thats how I jumped into the Linux world, and it was a blast.  But alas, from Ubuntu/Fedora, you do get a functional OS.  With Gentoo, you build it from scratch.  Its great for learning, but Ubuntu is best for functionality.
[19:19] <FlashWolf> [xk][ed]ubuntu's support is the greatest ive seen
[19:19] <FlashWolf> and i liked so much
[19:20] <ninjagambit_> i might add a gentoo partition to play with but i think i want something that works out the box.
[19:20] <ninjagambit_> but good tip thanks
[19:21] <mks> hi
[19:21] <FlashWolf> one of the things i didnt liked in xubuntu was the packages...
[19:21] <FlashWolf> *were
[19:21] <Pilot_> ninjagambit_: Yea, Gentoo is not for you if you want it to work right out of the box lol.  But if you want to play around with the kernel, you want a package manager which (IMO) is the best all around
[19:22] <FlashWolf> it's hard to find a fully-compatible pack to xfce
[19:22] <FlashWolf> at least some gnome apps works on it
[19:22] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: you can install any *ubuntu packages and use it on any flavour and it will work. my gf use xubuntu with a lot of kde apps like digikam.
[19:23] <Pilot_> Yea, so long as you have the libs, you can intermix DE packages.
[19:23] <FlashWolf> i spent almost 2 days to get compiz-fusion + emerald installed and working
[19:24] <mks> joo here only speak in inglesh ?
[19:24] <Hamra> mks: yes
[19:24] <ninjagambit_> i thought about geting edubuntu also but it isnt realy my style
[19:24] <ScorpKing> mks: what language do you speak?
[19:24] <mks> spanish
[19:25] <ninjagambit_> plus i played around with kde  a bit with fedora and i realy like it
[19:25] <ScorpKing> !es | mks
[19:25] <ubotu> mks: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[19:25] <mks> ubuto thanks
[19:26] <Pilot_> I switched from Grub to LILO, and now my power button shuts the computer down rather than give me the power off menu.  Any ideas?  Are the UUID in Grub the cause?  I didnt port them to LILO.
[19:30] <joey722> any idea?
[19:30] <joey722> help
[19:30] <Pilot_> joey722: whats the question
[19:31] <joey722> Pilot_: how to install word 2003 under my kubuntu gutsy??
[19:32] <Hamra> joey722: you mean microsoft word?
[19:32] <joey722> yes
[19:32] <Pilot_> joey722: AFAIK, you cant.  Wine would allow you to in theory, but MS denies the installation since you're not using an MS operating system.  You could try it, if you have the install CD, run the setup.exe.  Wine should recognise it.  But during the install, it will likely fail.
[19:32] <FlashWolf> lol
[19:32] <ScorpKing> hiya poison-- :)
[19:33] <Pilot_> Best to just use OpenOffice (which is also available on Windows) which is a free Writer (word) spreadsheet (excel) and presentation (powerpoint)
[19:33] <Hamra> joey722: why would you want word? openoffice.org writer is much better
[19:33] <Hamra> and it can convert to MS word if you need
[19:37] <ScorpKing> how can i set the time from cli?
[19:38] <Pilot_> date
[19:38] <Pilot_> ScorpKing: with command 'date'
[19:38] <mvv> Hi, How would I turn of the blinking of minimized applications?
[19:38] <ScorpKing> ty Pilot_
[19:41] <Pilot_> welcome
[19:41] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[19:41] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:42] <Pilot_> I switched from Grub to LILO, and now my power button shuts the computer down rather than give me the power off menu.  Any ideas?  Are the UUID in Grub the cause?  I didnt port them to LILO.
[19:43] <ScorpKing> Pilot_: the setting for that is in kcontrol somewhere. i've changed mine but can't remember the exact place
[19:44] <ScorpKing> heh. "Error: Sound Server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting"
[19:44] <Pilot_> yea I've seen it in System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager -> General.  but it is checked and the only modification I did was Grub to LILO.  Going back to Grub "re-enables" the shutdown options for some reason, and I cant figure it out
[19:45] <Pilot_> CPU overload? lol
[19:45] <ScorpKing> i think it's the soundcard. lol
[19:45] <fdoving> ScorpKing: isn't that an arts error message?
[19:45] <ScorpKing> yes
[19:46] <fdoving> arts can be fishy.
[19:46] <ScorpKing> if i put my 7in1 card in it works fine
[19:46] <drarem> FYI, I sent aegia physix an email on hardware linux support, and here is the response:
[19:46] <drarem> Hardware support on Linux is planned for SDK Release 2.8.0 which is scheduled to go out in January 2008. It may be necessary to push this back to a subsequent release to ensure the implementation is robust.
[19:46] <ScorpKing> or 5in1, not sure
[19:47] <Pilot_> ScorpKing: it may be your 7in1 has a DSP whereas your other doesnt, so it offloads to the CPU
[19:47] <drarem> An official mac port of the sdk is planned for second half of 2008, so hardware on mac wont happen any sooner than this.
[19:47] <Pilot_> DSP == Digital Sound Processor btw
[19:47] <drarem> isn't that great news
[19:47] <ScorpKing> oh i see. :)
[19:47] <Pilot_> similar to GPU
[19:47] <ScorpKing> drarem: it is. :D
[19:47] <ScorpKing> about time i think. hehe
[19:48] <drarem> from a GM at ageia technologies switzerland AG
[19:50] <GrahamA> !dvd
[19:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:51] <[ifr0g]> Why is alien dangerous ?
[19:51] <mvv> Ah, the Launch Feedback configuration item is gone... I had to envoke it trough kcontrol in the cli :)
[19:51] <ScorpKing> !mp4
[19:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:52] <ScorpKing> hmm.. is there a way to convert mp4's to mp3?
[19:53] <Pilot_> Probably.  I dont know of any software.  Try Google?
[19:53] <joey722> how can i extract .mdf image please??
[19:53] <Hamra> there definitly is one somewhere in windows, i dont know about linux though, should run fine on wine thoguh
[19:53] <fdoving> joey722: install mdf2iso and run it from the commandline.
[19:55] <joey722> fdoving: that will give me an iso i suppose.... because i have another iso image and i don't know how to extract it
[19:55] <roberto> hallo
[19:55] <fdoving> joey722: yes, it will give you an iso.
[19:56] <fdoving> !iso | joey722
[19:56] <ubotu> joey722: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[19:56] <joey722> ok thks
[19:58] <podr0znik> hello again :)
[19:58] <podr0znik> didn't see any error now
[20:04] <rafal> hello
[20:04] <rafal> how to set up my screen power saving?  previously it was in Desktop options (near screen saver) and now?
[20:05] <podr0znik> rafal, system settings, Monitor & Display, 4th tab
[20:06] <rafal> podr0znik: by System Settings you mean the Controll Center, or what?
[20:06] <ciacon> hi folks - I used to have Konversation as a systray-icon (like amarok & kmix & co...) how can I get that back??
[20:07] <Hamra> rafal: kmenu, system settings
[20:07] <podr0znik> rafal, if I click on K there's an option "System Settings"
[20:07] <vit__> hj
[20:07] <vit__> kl
[20:07] <vit__> llllll
[20:08] <hagabaka> hmm, what's the purpose of /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[20:09] <MarcC> I have a DVD that won't eject, but you can hear the spindle spinning...how do I get it out?
[20:10] <hagabaka> oh, i se
[20:10] <hagabaka> MarcC: try getting it out of the computer and wiggling it
[20:10] <hagabaka> it fixed it for me
[20:11] <rafal> podr0znik: wtf, I see no such option O_o
[20:11] <ScorpKing> MarcC: in konsole type sudo eject
[20:11] <MarcC> thanks, got it out with a paperclip
[20:11] <MarcC> man, my machine really does not like this set of dvds
[20:11] <MarcC> sigh
[20:11] <podr0znik> rafal, what system do you have?
[20:12] <rafal> podr0znik: Ubuntu 7.10 ; I installed kde
[20:12] <ScorpKing> MarcC: check your power supply. if the cdrive does not get enough power it will do that.
[20:12] <podr0znik> then maybe a more experienced person can help you out :) sorry
[20:13] <podr0znik> maybe you have another kde version than the one included in kubuntu 7.10
[20:13] <podr0znik> but I think it's already "system settings" on the same place for a long time
[20:13] <ScorpKing> rafal: press <ALT>+<F2> and type kcontrol
[20:14] <Hamra> !mp3
[20:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:15] <Hamra> what is the package the installs mp3 support?
[20:16] <asktoby> Is it possible to maximise all windows in KDE? e.g. right-click taskbar and choose "maximise all" or similar.
[20:17] <ScorpKing> asktoby: control+alt+D i think
[20:17] <ScorpKing> nah, that's minimize
[20:17] <asktoby> (I was just thinking: "Do I trust this guy? I really hope that isn't an alias for ctrl-alt-backspace!")
[20:18] <ScorpKing> asktoby: ask in #kde maybe they know
[20:18] <asktoby> Right-clicking the desktop gives Windows/cascade all windows. You'd think it was there but it isn't.
[20:18] <asktoby> Will do.
[20:19] <rafal> ScorpKing: yes, this is the Controll Center
[20:19] <ScorpKing> :)
[20:20] <rafal> in kcontroll there is no section "Monitor & Display" . I have Apparance Desktop Internet KDE-Componenets Peripherals Power Regional Sound and System-Administatraion. Is all ok?
[20:21] <mandrake__> hi
[20:21] <mandrake__> !it
[20:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:21] <mandrake__> ciao
[20:21] <rafal> ScorpKing: ^ any help?
[20:21] <ScorpKing> rafal: it's under peripherals
[20:22] <rafal> ScorpKing: nope
[20:22] <ScorpKing> it's a sub menu under that
[20:22] <rafal> Peripherals: Digital-Camera Joystick Keyboard Mouse Printer Remote-Controlls Storage-Media.  no Monitor
[20:22] <ScorpKing> hmm..
[20:23] <ScorpKing> in the search box type monitor
[20:23] <rafal> ScorpKing: nothing found
[20:23] <rafal> perhaps ubuntu is a joke not a real os?
[20:24] <rafal> ScorpKing: what version are you using
[20:24] <ScorpKing> haha
[20:24] <ScorpKing> 7.04
[20:24] <rafal> perhaps they fucked that up in 7.10
[20:24] <ScorpKing> !wtf
[20:24] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:24] <ScorpKing> rafal: i have 7.10 on my other box. starting it now
[20:26] <Hamra> rafal: i have 7.10, and i can see monitor in system settings and kcontrol
[20:26] <ScorpKing> maybe he can restore the default settings for kcontrol. now sure how or where
[20:27] <FlashWolf> :'(
[20:27] <rafal> Hamra: I dont see it, wtf
[20:27] <jason_> Hey, I know I sound like a newbie, but is this a channel for troubleshooting and such?
[20:27] <rafal> Hamra: I  installed that system yesterday
[20:27] <FlashWolf> downloading kubuntu at 13-14kb/s
[20:27] <rafal> Hamra: amd64 btw
[20:27] <FlashWolf> curse wireless conn
[20:28] <ScorpKing> it took me 27 minutes to download it last week. hehe :P
[20:28] <Hamra> jason: yes it is
[20:29] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: thank you. now i'm happier.
[20:29] <FlashWolf> bwaaargh!!
[20:29] <Hamra> is there any difference between kubuntu 32-bit and 64-bit?
[20:29] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: you're welcome :)
[20:29] <Hamra> difference in settings and GUI and the like
[20:29] <FlashWolf> Hamra: one is for 32-bit PC and the other... bah. u understood.
[20:30] <FlashWolf> xD
[20:30] <Hamra> Flashwolf: finally someone downloading at speeds i use :P
[20:30] <FlashWolf> Hamra: temporarily. i hope.
[20:30] <FlashWolf> i should be downloading it in at least 64kb/s
[20:31] <FlashWolf> _at least_
[20:32] <FlashWolf> but...
[20:32] <FlashWolf> just 13 hours to get it downloaded.
[20:32] <FlashWolf> i hope too.
[20:32] <Pilot_> Does anyone know why OpenOffice in ubuntu seems to write text in double line spacing even when single line is set?  Its been fucking up all the line formating on all my docs (new and old)
[20:33] <ScorpKing> !wtf | Pilot_
[20:33] <ubotu> Pilot_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:33] <FlashWolf> !wtf | Pilot_
[20:33] <FlashWolf> ¬¬
[20:33] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: thank you again.
[20:33] <Pilot_> ok fine... Frapping up.
[20:33] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: use wget -c http:/...... to continue the download if it stops
[20:33] <FlashWolf> xD
[20:34] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i'm downloading by bt
[20:34] <ScorpKing> oh ok
[20:34] <FlashWolf> Pilot_: Shift + ENTER
[20:34] <FlashWolf> ENTER == New pharagraph
[20:35] <FlashWolf> SHIFT+ENTER == New Line Break
[20:35] <ScorpKing> thanks FlashWolf, i was looking for that. :)
[20:35] <Pilot_> FlashWolf: Do you know how to disable this?  Because all my previous docs are all getting affected by this.  Its annoying because some of these are formal docs where.. obviously formatting is important
[20:36] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: looking for waht?
[20:36] <FlashWolf> *what
[20:36] <ScorpKing> shif+enter
[20:36] <ScorpKing> shift*
[20:36] <FlashWolf> Pilot_: i'm not using oo now. never got problems about this issue
[20:37] <seelenschmerz> wunderschönengutenabend
[20:37] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: "You're welcome"
[20:37] <ScorpKing> !de
[20:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:37] <Pilot_> FlashWolf: I've been looking through the options.  I had OO on Gentoo and it never did this (same version; 2.3.0) and on kubuntu its been doing this..
[20:37] <FlashWolf> !de
[20:37] <FlashWolf> ¬¬
[20:37] <FlashWolf> i'm slow
[20:37] <FlashWolf> sleepy
[20:37] <ScorpKing> hehe
[20:37] <FlashWolf> tired
[20:37] <FlashWolf> and lazy.
[20:37] <smookerPC1> :)
[20:38]  * ScorpKing gives FlashWolf some strong coffee to wake him a bit..
[20:38]  * FlashWolf thanks to ScorpKing again: "can't drink coffee."
[20:39] <FlashWolf> hey
[20:39] <FlashWolf> i'm in brazil
[20:39] <FlashWolf> so i can take some "Guarana"
[20:39] <FlashWolf> hehe
[20:39] <ScorpKing> hmm..
[20:39] <FlashWolf> there's not a better thing to keep someone up than guarana
[20:40] <FlashWolf> guarana rox
[20:40]  * ScorpKing pass FlashWolf some "Guarana" and take stick his finger in the coffee.. :P
[20:40] <ScorpKing> -take*
[20:40] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: ok. thank you. ¬¬
[20:40] <FlashWolf> xD
[20:41] <ScorpKing> :) yw
[20:41] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i know. u told me some mins ago. :P
[20:41] <FlashWolf> xDDD
[20:42] <ScorpKing> is the binary installer for nvidia cards safe to use in 7.10?
[20:42] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i'm using this here nicely...
[20:42] <FlashWolf> ah
[20:43] <ScorpKing> 100.14.19 for fx5200 that is
[20:43] <FlashWolf> !offtopic ScorpKing
[20:43] <FlashWolf> ¬¬
[20:43] <smooker> how do i go to control panel ?
[20:43] <FlashWolf> when i'm not slow, i get an error.
[20:44] <ScorpKing> smooker: alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[20:44] <FlashWolf> and ubotu, i know u're not intelligent. :P
[20:44] <Hamra> im using geforce 7300 LE, and it's working fine
[20:44] <smooker> omg i cant resize window
[20:44] <FlashWolf> an i'm using a geforce xfx 6200
[20:44] <ScorpKing> oh ok. i'll give it a try
[20:45] <[ifr0g]> Help ! cant kill khubd ..!!
[20:45] <[ifr0g]>  1945 root      20  -5     0    0    0 R 89.2  0.0   2:34.72 khubd
[20:45] <rafal> hmm
[20:45] <ScorpKing> sudo kill 1945
[20:45] <[ifr0g]> Does not work..
[20:45] <ScorpKing> sudo killall khubd ?
[20:46] <FlashWolf> sudo killall khubd
[20:46] <ScorpKing> :P
[20:46] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: :X
[20:46] <[ifr0g]> no :(
[20:46] <ScorpKing> weird..
[20:46] <[ifr0g]> i know.. nothing will kill it
[20:46] <ScorpKing> sudo killall -9 khubd ?
[20:46]  * FlashWolf beats himself: "Slow!"
[20:47] <[ifr0g]> And takes 88% of my processing.
[20:47] <ScorpKing> !kill
[20:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:47] <[ifr0g]> ScorpKing, :( still the same..
[20:47] <ScorpKing> heh. ask in ##linux .maybe they know
[20:47] <[ifr0g]> ok
[20:49] <FlashWolf> zZZzzzZZZZzzz...
[20:49] <ScorpKing> !ot
[20:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[20:49] <ScorpKing> :D
[20:49] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i need guarana, not an off-topic channell.
[20:50] <seicherl_bob> hi there! i'm trying to set up a small simple access point. now it seems i cant do that with my intel 2935 chipset. has anybody any expierences with setting up an access point?
[20:50] <FlashWolf> but, thank you.
[20:50] <FlashWolf> and, before u say again,
[20:50] <FlashWolf> i'm welcome.
[20:50] <FlashWolf> xD
[20:50] <BluesKaj> what's guarana ?
[20:51] <ScorpKing> something i don't have.
[20:51] <FlashWolf> BluesKaj: a brazilian fruit. eat that and forget sleeping for at least 3 days.
[20:51] <FlashWolf> - it's not a drug
[20:52] <BluesKaj> some fruit, sounds like a nightmare drug
[20:52] <ScorpKing> wow. after that?
[20:52] <FlashWolf> !ot | FlashWolf
[20:52] <Radi01> I will put in my order of 12 cases please.
[20:52] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: after its effects, u sleep as a heavy rock.
[20:52] <ScorpKing> lol
[20:53] <smooker> How to disable/ shutdown Compiz?
[20:54] <BluesKaj> remove it from the autostart file
[20:54] <FlashWolf> smooker: sudo kill compiz.real
[20:55] <smooker> ERROR: garbage process ID "compiz.real".
[20:57] <seicherl_bob> hi there! i'm trying to set up a small simple access point. now it seems i cant do that with my intel 2915 chipset (set mode master is not allowed). has anybody any expierences with setting up an access point?
[20:57] <smooker> help
[20:57] <smooker> i cant resize windows
[20:58] <smooker> maby its compiz thing :(
[20:58] <BluesKaj> smooker , kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart , then remove compiz
[20:59] <Radi01> BluesKaj: does that work with any app?
[20:59] <Radi01>  kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart
[21:00] <smooker> will be nice to remove it from the auto start but i dont see any compiz
[21:00] <BluesKaj> bummer
[21:00] <smooker> ??
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Radi01, it works if the app is listed in you autostart file ...obviously not all are included
[21:01] <Radi01> That is what I wanted to know: Thanks.
[21:02] <smooker> im removing fully compiz
[21:02] <matttis> hi
[21:02] <matttis> where do i find config and log files of kopete ?
[21:05] <ScorpKing> .kde/share/apps/kopete/
[21:06] <fdoving> and .kde/share/config/kopeterc
[21:08] <rgnr> hey ppl
[21:08] <ScorpKing> hi
[21:08] <rgnr> hi
[21:08] <rgnr> any1 uses ktorrent ?
[21:08] <blizzzek> what caught my eye right know is that the link to the feedback page on the announcement site about hardy alpha is broken i.e. it leads to a not existing site... at first glance there is no feedback site for hardy alpha 1, is it?
[21:09] <continentaltest> are there any here today with a lot of experience using dia - the diagram editor?  My version has suddenly stopped printing.  I can open and view diagrams, and print.  The printer queue receives the job, the printer starts 'processing', but then nothing prints.  I have removed and reinstalled dia without success.  All other SW prints without problems.  Is there another IRC or other chat source out there that may be helpful?
[21:09] <ScorpKing> maybe #ubuntu and ##linux
[21:13] <ahkoers> Hello. I have a problem. Vista won't boot after I just installed Kubuntu on the same harddrive.
[21:13] <ahkoers> Is this a known problem?
[21:14] <ahkoers> I shrunk the Vista partition
[21:14] <ahkoers> using the Kubuntu installer
[21:14] <ahkoers> I didn't do it from Vista
[21:14] <ahkoers> Is there anyone with some more information on this?
[21:15] <ScorpKing> !grub
[21:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:15] <Hamra> does it start booting and crashes? or there is no vista option in grub?
[21:16] <ahkoers> There is a vista option in grub
[21:16] <ahkoers> and I see the loading sceen of Vista
[21:16] <ahkoers> but then the screen goes black
[21:16] <ahkoers> and doesn't do ANYTHING
[21:17] <ahkoers> While making the new ext3 partition, a 7.23 unformatted partition was created directly after the NFTS partition. Could this be a cause for my problem?
[21:18] <Hamra> is your vista partition intact? can you mount it?
[21:18] <ahkoers> I think they are mounted?
[21:19] <ahkoers> They all show up in the file manager
[21:19] <ahkoers> And I can view the files from all partitions
[21:19] <ahkoers> They are under /media
[21:21] <ahkoers> ah lol. Freenode is linked to here :P
[21:23] <ahkoers> Hamra, do you have any more things to check?
[21:23] <ahkoers> Or anyone else?
[21:23] <matttis> Does anyone know how to recover deleted data from FAT partitions ? (which tool f.e.)
[21:24] <jembouge> hi there
[21:25] <jembouge> anyone?
[21:25] <ScorpKing> matttis: handyrecovery
[21:25] <ScorpKing> hi jembouge
[21:25] <jembouge> I got a problem with kdm, it sets my screen to a very small size
[21:25] <Hamra> check to see if it boots in safe mode (f8 as soon as you press vista in grub), other than that, im sorry for not being of much help
[21:25] <matttis> ScorpKing: thanks
[21:25] <jembouge> Hi ScorpKing
[21:26] <ScorpKing> matttis: it's a windows program and does not run under linux btw
[21:26] <ahkoers> Don't be sorry Hamra. I am thankful for your time and ideas!
[21:26] <ahkoers> I will reboot now then. Thanks and bye!
[21:27] <matttis> ScorpKing: at least something, thanks anyway
[21:27] <ScorpKing> yw
[21:29] <Hamra> is there any known problem with kubuntu and FAT32? when i write files to the root directory of my FAT32 partition, they disappear when i boot winXP, this doesnt happen when i put them in some folder :S
[21:30] <Flare183> !fat32
[21:30] <ScorpKing> !fat
[21:30] <ScorpKing> lol
[21:30] <Flare183> slow bot
[21:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[21:31] <Flare183> finally
[21:35] <ciperlone> fat32 is not a ver good filesystem...
[21:35] <Phlogi> how can I delete existing network settings from my kdenetworkmanager?
[21:36] <ciperlone> fat32 it's slow, and the largest file you can have is about 4 gb...
[21:37] <Hamra> i know, but i needed some filesystem to pass files between winXP and linux
[21:37] <gabbah> in my settings > mouse and keyboard > mouse > MX500 Optical Mouse dialog it says "You have  a Logitech mouse connected, and libusb was found at complie time, but it was not possible to access this mouse. This is probably caused by a permissions problem - you should consult the manual on how to fix this."  How do I fix this and what manual are they refering to?
[21:38] <ScorpKing> bah. black screen when using nvidia drivers. :(
[21:38] <gabbah> Hamra: I use ntfs for that, seems to work fine.
[21:39] <Hamra> i might give it a try, but i read somewhere that its not safe to write to ntfs using linux, i was afraid it would create a problem or something
[21:40] <ScorpKing> !ntfs-3g
[21:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:40] <BluesKaj> !ntfs-config
[21:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs-config - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:41] <BluesKaj> !info ntfs-config
[21:41] <ubotu> ntfs-config: Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 432 kB
[21:45] <Hamra> thnx
[21:46] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[21:47] <ciperlone> ey guyz
[21:48] <ciperlone> how can i change the time of hipernate aond/or suspend?
[21:49] <ciperlone> does any one knows?
[21:51] <onyx> how do i recognize a flash drive in kubuntu?
[21:52] <Lynoure> onyx: usually it happens automatically
[21:52] <onyx> hmm... well im haveing problems with that...im using a virtual box
[21:53] <ciperlone> how can i change the time of hipernate aond/or suspend?
[21:53] <ciperlone> please help
[21:53] <Lynoure> I have not tried virtual box yet, so cannot help much.
[21:53] <Lynoure> ciperlone: time?
[21:54] <onyx> lynoure: thank you for your time
[21:55] <Lynoure> ciperlone: I mean, I cannot understand the question. Usually hibernate or suspend happen manually...
[21:55] <ciperlone> i just whant to know where is the option of configurating hibernate/suspend...
[21:55] <Lynoure> Do you mean you want to make the computer hibernate automatically at a certain time?
[21:55] <ciperlone> yes, i'm sorry, bad english :S
[21:56] <ciperlone> no, i just what to change hibernate/suspend options...
[21:56] <rafal> help, I don't have any Monitors options in kcontrol!
[21:57] <ciperlone> for example, if the computer suspends in 5 minutes and I what to make it 1 hour instead of 5 minutes
[21:57] <ciperlone> can anyone help?
[21:57] <Lynoure> ciperlone: How do you make it suspend in 5 minutes?
[21:57] <rafal> help help
[21:58] <viajador> Hi there! Can someone help me with this issue? http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089300.0
[21:58] <rafal> anyone have 7.10 on amd64 and kde? I need to check something!
[21:58] <grul_> i think he means that it automatically suspends after 5 mintues of inactivity, amirite?
[21:59] <Lynoure> grul_: possible, but I don't know where that is set, either...
[21:59] <ciperlone> grul_: exactly!
[21:59] <Lynoure> grul_: never needed it.
[21:59] <ciperlone> i need to change that
[21:59] <rafal> anyone?
[21:59] <Lynoure> powermanager does have a setting for it, it seems
[22:00] <Lynoure> ciperlone: left click on the power manager icon in the tray. The setting is there
[22:00] <ciperlone> because when i suspend or hipernate kubuntu, i lost all the work...it doesn't restart correctly...
[22:00] <BluesKaj> viajador, switch your kubuntu-desktop to portugese language in system settings/regional&language , if you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[22:00] <Lynoure> ciperlone: you can turn it off altogether, too
[22:00] <arpeggio> hi all
[22:01] <Lynoure> ciperlone: or choose a shutdown instead of hibernate, that should get your session saved
[22:01] <alesan> !skype
[22:01] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[22:01] <maverick_> anyone ahs any single piece of info about configuring QoS SpeedTouch ?!!
[22:01] <viajador> bluesKaj: I have a portuguese system. I can read/write those characters in every other place (even in the windows partition)
[22:02] <ciperlone> i just what to go away for several hours without the pc to suspend... any ideas?
[22:02] <Lynoure> maverick_: which single piece would you want? http://www.speedtouch.nl/docs/ConfigGuides/ConfigGuide_ATMQoS.pdf
[22:02] <ciperlone> i don't have any power manager icon in the tray...
[22:02] <BluesKaj> viajador, install kubuntu-desktop
[22:03] <arpeggio> Is there any way to make KDE start clean everytime?I mean, I don't want the programs that were running before I shut down Kubuntu to run again on restart..
[22:03] <ciperlone> is there another way to do that?
[22:03] <viajador> BluesKaj: why? I'm running kubuntu already :|
[22:03] <viajador> arpeggio: yes! you must change the configuration to do so
[22:03] <maverick_> Lynoure: am on a shared network, 15 users, one of them is an ******* right now my ping is reaching 1000 ms i wat to limit him through QoS
[22:04] <BluesKaj> viajador, earlier you said you were running ubuntu but using kde apps
[22:04] <maverick_> Lynoure:  did you try QoS before?!
[22:04] <arpeggio> would you mind teaching me how to do that please viajador?
[22:04] <Lynoure> maverick_: On Kubuntu? No. :)
[22:05] <rafal> anyone have 7.10 on amd64 and kde? I need to check something!
[22:05] <viajador> BluesKaj: I probably didn't explained well. I was using Ubuntu, but when I realized I was using almost only KDE apps, I switched to Kubuntu.
[22:05] <Lynoure> maverick_: and I have never touched any Speedtouch devices.
[22:05] <maverick_> Lynoure: i guess it's irrelevant of the OS u're using...
[22:05] <maverick_> mm
[22:05] <maverick_> thnx anyway
[22:05] <viajador> arpeggio: go to System Config > Advanced > Session Manager
[22:05] <BluesKaj> viajador, in that case , I'm sorry ..I don't know how fix it
[22:05] <Lynoure> maverick_: I bet the pdf might help you. There was nothing there?
[22:06] <maverick_> Lynoure: it only applies QoS to a certain interface
[22:06] <maverick_> not a specific host
[22:06] <cloakable> maverick_: lucky you. My ping is 2 seconds
[22:06] <arpeggio> viajador: I have done it! Thank you very much
[22:06] <donsdw> rafal: I have 7.10 on amd64 and kde, but I don't know much about linux.
[22:06] <maverick_> it's too late now..next time am gonna physically disconnect him off the switch
[22:06] <viajador> BluesKaj: that's a pain! I can't use Kubuntu if I can't use my external drive... and I was liking it much more :|
[22:07] <donsdw> rafal: That is if 7.10 is gutsy.
[22:07] <Lynoure> maverick_: Call their support, if they have one? It's a question about proprietary hardware, right?
[22:07] <maverick_> cloakable: come on.... normally any ping should be between 150 and 250   i guess
[22:07] <cloakable> maverick_: on no, it's 1 second now
[22:07] <rafal> donsdw: can you run   $ kcontroledit   then  find the option like Monitors or Displays,  and tell me the command that is executed there?
[22:08] <maverick_> Lynoure: well you know am in Egypt and we 're little behing this kinda techs ...ppl at the ADSL ISP customer support barely know how to config routers, i guess
[22:08] <maverick_> behind*
[22:08] <donsdw> Screen config editor?
[22:08] <BluesKaj> viajador, I'm sure there's a solution to your problem. I just don't know what it is ...perhaps the ppl at #kubuntu-pt can help you .
[22:09] <renovatio> slt
[22:09] <Hamra> maverick_: i know, i live in lebanon, and they barely know the host's IP!
[22:09] <bmk789> anyone running compiz on KDE?
[22:09] <rafal> donsdw: yes
[22:09] <donsdw> Command: kcmshell Peripheral/displayconfig
[22:09] <rafal> donsdw: there should be option to configure Display
[22:10] <rafal> donsdw: perhaps in Periphelias
[22:10] <maverick_> Hamra:  yeah
[22:10] <Lynoure> maverick_: which model you had?
[22:10] <maverick_> 510i
[22:11] <maverick_> lately  i upgraded firmware to v 4
[22:11] <donsdw> rafal: Command: kcmshell Peripheral/displayconfig
[22:11] <maverick_> which supports QoS...but it's like latin language to me
[22:12] <BluesKaj> rob, pls stay with one nick
[22:12] <rob> BluesKaj, no
[22:13] <Lynoure> maverick_: you so owe me once if this one gets solved :) Why not v5, by the way?
[22:13] <maverick_> Lynoure: i owe my life
[22:13] <maverick_> Lynoure: if it got solved
[22:13] <BluesKaj> rob, we don't need ppl filling the chat screen with useless info
[22:14] <maverick_> Lynoure: and i know it won't :P
[22:14] <rob> BluesKaj, set your client to ignore nick changes then :D
[22:14] <viajador> bmk789: I do
[22:14] <maverick_> Lynoure: is there version 5
[22:14] <maverick_> ?!
[22:14] <rafal> donsdw: thanks
[22:14] <rafal> donsdw: what exacly is writtne there,
[22:14] <domenico> Is there a way to uninstall the meta-package xubuntu-desktop?
[22:14] <rafal> donsdw: in the field
[22:14] <rafal> donsdw: in the field  "command"
[22:14] <Lynoure> maverick_: yes, seems so, http://www.speedtouch.com/pdf/Manuals/R531/ST510v5_CLIguide.pdf
[22:16] <domenico> ... sorry, to be more complete:  Is there a way to uninstall the meta-package xubuntu-desktop and get rid of the XFCE environment?
[22:16] <Lynoure> maverick_: pages 67 onwards might help
[22:17] <viajador> So, anyone can try and shed some light on this issue: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089300.0
[22:17] <Lynoure> maverick_: oh, sorry, forgot, you had some version that does not use atm?
[22:17] <bmk789> viajador: what packages did you install to set it up and what tool do you use for configuration?
[22:18] <maverick_> no it uses atm
[22:18] <maverick_> listen they all use the same technique
[22:18] <wolv> anyone have any idea how to manually remove restricted drivers?  I'm trying to turn off the atheros wifi drivers.
[22:18] <maverick_> u can only shape for a specific interface
[22:19] <viajador> I just installed compiz-fusion, compiz-kde (or something like that) and conficompiz-manager (or something like that). The rest went on automaticaly. I also use Emerald, but that is your option.
[22:19] <donsdw> rafal: kcmshell Peripheral/displayconfig
[22:19] <viajador> bmk789: read above :)
[22:19] <Lynoure> maverick_: But earlier you turned down qos on atm... Don't see why, then. I'd expect it's the upstream connection you want to apply qos on.
[22:19] <bmk789> viajador: hmm, ive got all those but the configuration is acting weird :\
[22:19] <Lynoure> ciperlone: Sorry, I am not sure how to start powermanager manually
[22:20] <maverick_> Lynoure: no the download stream
[22:21] <bmk789> ill try to purge and reinstall and see what happens
[22:21] <Flare183> !info natilus
[22:21] <ubotu> Package natilus does not exist in gutsy
[22:21] <grul_> !info nautilus
[22:21] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.20.0-0ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 630 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[22:22] <viajador> bmk789: weird how?
[22:22] <Lynoure> maverick_: that's what I meant, his hosts connection from upsteam, not in the internal network.
[22:22] <bmk789> like, some plugins dont work, and enabling window previews disables the svg and text plugins
[22:22] <maverick_> Lynoure: yeah
[22:23] <Flare183> !sudo
[22:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[22:24] <Lynoure> maverick_: seems to me that the first document I linked to covers that in detail, and the command line reference is just a quick reference. You can probably parse it together from those. :)
[22:31] <Lynoure> ciperlone: I think the applet comes in kde-guidance-powermanager
[22:32] <GrahamA> Umm... My standard ps/2 mouse has just stopped working... and I don't know why. It's optical and the lights on but it doesn't move and the buttons don'twork
[22:33] <FlashWolf> GrahamA: i had a nice mouse that died this way
[22:34] <FlashWolf> bought another one
[22:34] <FlashWolf> GrahamRA: its lights are all on, but the main processor is broken.
[22:34] <FlashWolf> probably this is what happened to you
[22:35] <Lynoure> ciperlone: I have to sleep now, I hope you find it.
[22:42] <dick-richardson> how do I rip a single track from a cd to a 192 kbps vbr .mp3?
[22:51] <viajador> dick-richardson: try Grip
[22:52] <tburdick> kaudiocreator works pretty darn good
[22:52] <tburdick> I like it better than grip personally...
[22:53] <tinin> hi
[22:53] <tinin> does anybody know a good OCR scanner software?
[22:53] <viajador> Never tryed it. I used Grip some time ago and I liked it enough not to try anything else ever since :)
[22:55] <carranca> hi, im trying to install kde4 in kubuntu to test it, ive done what it says on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php but with no luck
[22:56] <carranca> when trying to excecute Xephyr it telss me, that it cannot open display. Is DISPLAY set?
[22:56] <Hamra> tintin: there is kooka
[22:56] <Hamra> tinin*
[22:57] <Pilot_> Does anyone know how to change OO from making paragraph breaks everytime you press 'enter'?  ie: instead of always using shift+enter
[22:58] <tinin> Hamra thanx, i just have seen it, i'm going to try. I had heard there was an opensource project for ocr hosted on googlecode. I need some accuracy
[22:58] <tinin> I'm going to check some more
[23:01] <Hamra> ok, np
[23:02] <tinin> http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/
[23:02] <tinin> The developers are regularly testing on the following platforms:
[23:03] <tinin> ...Ubuntu
[23:03] <tinin> niiiice
[23:05] <Hamra> sounds really nice, unfortunatly, i dont have the opportunity to use scanning on linux, since my lexmark 1100 scanner is not supported on linux
[23:05] <Hamra> i might need some new scanner
[23:06] <hatter_> how do i make shortcut on the desktop for an nfs share ?
[23:06] <FlashWolf> Hamra: sure thesre is a driver
[23:07] <BluesKaj> Hamra, lexmark doesn't support linux ... they won't write linux drivers for their products
[23:07] <FlashWolf> dont know where, but here is
[23:07] <FlashWolf> oh. so sorry then
[23:07] <tinin> scan on windows with vmware and use the images in kooka Hamra
[23:07] <FlashWolf> any emulation?
[23:07] <BluesKaj> but I'm sure there are some open source drivers around
[23:08] <BluesKaj> kooka isn't a very good scan app IMO , so I still use windows for scanjobs
[23:08] <jpiccolo> i am having a problem with convertIT
[23:09] <Hamra> there is a linux sdk from lexmark, but the drivers are from version 1150 and up, my 1100 wont work, i found somewhere a 3rd party driver, but they said it's unreliable, anyway, im good with vmware, i installed few days ago
[23:09] <BluesKaj> bah VMware !
[23:10] <hatter_> why bah vmware ?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> i just switch to windows for 20mins to do a scan ...no biggie
[23:11] <hatter_> vmware is great, why would anyone not like it ?
[23:11] <BluesKaj> i had vmware running on my pc , could solve the internet connection prob
[23:12] <BluesKaj> couldn't rather
[23:12] <hatter_> couldnt connect it to the internet ?
[23:12] <BluesKaj> nope
[23:12] <hatter_> then your bridge wasnt setup properly
[23:13] <tinin> i preffer virtualbox, but maybe it does not work well with external devices yet
[23:13] <hatter_> its trivial to have network connectivity with vmware
[23:13] <tinin> uhh kooka ocr sux
[23:13] <tinin>  p|.c |'dl l( un>Elc <lue cl ()ji\'rn   CílT\Cl\líÚ o lllcln fl\  \|
[23:14] <Doctor_Nick> typing in perl, i see
[23:15] <BluesKaj> hatter , I'm behind a router ...tried everything for a week to make it connect in vmware...no dice
[23:17] <BluesKaj> hatter_, anyway I don't need windows except for scanning once in a while, so I don't feel deprived :)
[23:17] <rafal> the panels in KDE are gone after re-logging, wtf
[23:17] <hatter_> BluesKaj, fair enough :)
[23:17] <sebastian^> hmm how i can reset all my wlan configuration, after testing to set an ip for my wlan knetworkmanager dont show me any wlans ... :-/?
[23:18] <BluesKaj> sebastian , wireless  ?
[23:18] <johey> I lost my K menu. I have even rebooted my computer, and it's still gone. What can I do?
[23:18] <sebastian^> aehm yes :)
[23:18] <maverick_> sebastian^: i guess    /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[23:18] <maverick_> sebastian^: try it
[23:19] <johey> Not only the menu, but the whole panel bar.
[23:19] <maverick_> sebastian11:  and wait for like 10 sec u'll see wireless networks hopefuly
[23:19] <sebastian^> maverick_: no i tested this two or three times
[23:20] <sebastian^> he only shows me one cable connection
[23:21] <sebastian^> but under this, were i normally can find the wlans .. nothing
[23:21] <RogueJediX> How can I find out which app is using up my sound device?
[23:22] <Hamra> johey: can you see the bar at the bottom? if so right click it and click add applet
[23:23] <johey> Hamra: No, it's gone.
[23:24] <johey> Hamra: However, I just found out that I can do killall kicker && kicker and it will start. But I have auto hiding on, and as soon as it has been hidden once, I need to restart it again.
[23:24] <dgrub> is anyone able to get the client for the NetZero ISP in the US?
[23:25] <Alonea> what is with kdesudo and kde4? I have trouble running programs like adept because it wont accept my password. says its incorrect when its not. kde said it was a gusty problem.
[23:26] <johey> Hamra: Now, when I turned off auto hiding and restarted kicker, it is there. However, this is not how I'd like to have it. =/
[23:27] <Alonea> johey: i couldn't ever get the auto-hide to work for me without loosing the bar
[23:28] <johey> Alonea: Strange. It has worked for me for some weeks now, but...
[23:29] <sebastian^> any has another idea for my wireless problem :)?
[23:29] <matttis> Hi, does anyone know how to work (good) with photorec ? I would like to filter the recovered files by the doctype (xml headline).
[23:29] <Alonea> johey: then again, I haven't tried again since fiesty. is it any more stable?
[23:29] <BluesKaj> !wireless | sebastian^
[23:29] <ubotu> sebastian^: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:30] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[23:30] <matttis> I think that could be possible because _photorec_ seems to take the file content to look if it is a text file (f.e. a xml file)
[23:30] <johey> Alonea: I didn't use auto hiding with feisty. Only tried it with gutsy, but today I cannot say it's very stable. :)
[23:31] <funkju> Hello. I am having a problem with KNetworkManager. It doesn't list my network connections in the icon in the system tray, and when I click on it it says "No active device". Though I can connect just fine to both wireless and wired. Any ideas how to get the devices to show up when I right click?
[23:31] <Alonea> johey: figures..its been that way then since whatever was before fiesty. mine would work for a little while and then it would mess up.
[23:32] <sebastian^> sama problem funkju :)
[23:32] <johey> Alonea: Edgy, if I remember correctly. :) Not good. In my opinion, KDE is a really stable environment, so it's sad that such a major thing is broken.
[23:33] <Alonea> also, why did they change kdesu to kdesudo when kde4 is still kdesu?
[23:34] <funkju> sebastian: at least i'm not alone. Maybe I will just install wicd
[23:34] <Alonea> i might end up going back to fiesty because of it if gusty is going to cause this many problems.
[23:36] <johey> It beats me. Well, I can probably learn to live with a static kicker. Bad solution, but whatever. Have to sleep some hours now.
[23:36] <Alonea> johey: night
[23:37] <Alonea> looks like I am going back to fiesty then. Even though I won't be able to shut down my computer. At least gusty fixed that problem.
[23:40] <sebastian^> funkju: i now tested kwifimanager for my wlan
[23:40] <BluesKaj> err Alonea ...maybe it's kde4 giving you the greif not gutsy
[23:40] <sebastian^> and he found everything without problems
[23:43] <Alonea> BluesKaj: already talked to kde people. its due to the change from kdesu to kdesudo in gusty.
[23:45] <BluesKaj> Alonea, i still use kdesu for gui and sudo for cli ... i don't trust kdesudo
[23:45] <Alonea> BluesKaj: yeah. me neither. its just on programs gusty automatically uses kdesudo and I don't know how to get it to do kdesu unless I load the program manually in the terminal
[23:46] <hatter_> every time i boot i get an error mesg 'boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz not found
[23:47] <HoNgOuRu> can anyone help me_??? I ' ve installed latest privative ati driver, 8.43 and for some reason my bus setting is at 0x, it should be 8x...please give me a hand..
[23:47] <HoNgOuRu> I dont have graphic acceleration
[23:47] <BluesKaj> HoNgOuRu, which ati card ?
[23:48] <HoNgOuRu> radeon,9800 pro, its supported by this driver
[23:48] <HoNgOuRu> envy says so...
[23:49] <HoNgOuRu> catalyst shows 0x at bus setting...
[23:49] <HoNgOuRu> and the openGL part is from Mesa project instead of ATI
[23:50] <HoNgOuRu> I think I should edit something in xorg.conf
[23:50] <HoNgOuRu> but I don
[23:50] <HoNgOuRu> 't know what
[23:50] <BluesKaj> yes, ati recommends that driver for most of the radeons , but it doesn't do 3D or DRI on some so one has to revert to the restricted driver provided in system settings/advanced , but the newly installed 8.43 driver has to be uninstalled first
[23:50] <Alonea> HoNgOuRu: good luck. i tried doing it manually without success. envy did it for me thankfully. is composite disabled in xorg?
[23:50] <HoNgOuRu> 0 or 1 ?
[23:51] <Alonea> HoNgOuRu: there is a composite 0 and 1???
[23:51] <HoNgOuRu> I'll type Disable
[23:51] <HoNgOuRu> yes...
[23:51] <HoNgOuRu> the bit state
[23:51] <HoNgOuRu> yes or no...
[23:51] <HoNgOuRu> well wait for me...
[23:51] <Alonea> HoNgOuRu: oh ok. yeah, mine has to be disabled to work.
[23:52] <Alonea> HoNgOuRu: though i do not have that model of card. I have an ati xpress 200m
[23:52] <HoNgOuRu> disable or disabled????
[23:52] <HoNgOuRu> is that I dont speak english as my mother language...
[23:53] <BluesKaj> HoNgOuRu, to uninstall the 8.43 driver : https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat711-inst.html
[23:53] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[23:53] <HoNgOuRu> I'll try the xorg first
[23:53] <HoNgOuRu> I put Disable or Disabled ???
[23:54] <HoNgOuRu> wish me luck
[23:54] <HoNgOuRu> thanx Ill restart
[23:54] <BluesKaj> Alonea, do you have fgl_glxgears ?
[23:57] <jembouge> hi there
[23:57] <Ace2016> hi
[23:58] <Ace2016> Th3R3 isn't here today though
[23:58] <jembouge> anyone knows how to set the screen dpi to 75 so X uses it by default?
[23:58] <BluesKaj> no prolly changed the nick Th4R4
[23:59] <Ace2016> bye all