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alecwhI'm using vcs-imports, how often does it update the repositories? Mine is at: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpns/trunk , and I made a commit about 20 minutes ago00:30
thumperalecwh: at the moment, every six hours00:38
thumperthere is a bug filed somwhere about making it more configurable00:38
alecwhthumper: Ok, that's good. I was just making sure it actually updates for my project. Thanks. :)00:39
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ubotuNew bug: #173595 in launchpad "person's bug search page lists every milestone in every project" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17359507:35
mptduplicate07:37
ubotuNew bug: #173597 in launchpad "want to directly create an faq" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17359708:06
mptduplicate08:31
HobbseeFujitsu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/138500 was the original08:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)08:46
FujitsuHobbsee: Yeah, I found that yesterday.08:46
Hobbseeah08:46
FujitsuOr day before. One of them.08:46
FujitsuNot long after I filed mine.08:46
HobbseeFujitsu: this is just a good reason not to assign bugs.  or fix them.08:46
FujitsuHah.08:46
Hobbseeand to screenscrape and use email as much as possible.08:47
* Fujitsu waits impatiently for the first bits of the API to materialise.08:47
HobbseeFujitsu: then again, i'm not sure you should be getting it anywya - seeing as it's supposed to just relate to the project...which i thought was ubuntu.08:47
FujitsuHobbsee: Right.08:48
FujitsuBut no, every SourcePackage in every DistroSeries is a different context.08:48
FujitsuMight as well say `William Grant isn't assigned to this bug yet. Are you sure you want to assign him?'08:48
Hobbseeall under the global ubuntu, i would have thought08:48
Hobbseelike, why limit it to each distro-series?08:49
FujitsuRight, it should be global over Ubuntu. Or at least not complain about ~ubuntu-dev members.08:49
Hobbseeintellectronica: fix it :)08:49
FujitsuSpeaking of the devil.08:49
Hobbseeyes, speak of the devil.08:50
HobbseeFujitsu: doing it for anyone involved in ubuntu bug triage is going to be a bitch.08:50
Hobbseenot just -dev08:50
FujitsuOh, because these triaging people like to assign themselves, right.08:50
FujitsuAnd is it valid to ask me if I want to assign me? That also sounds silly.08:51
HobbseeFujitsu: well, that's true.08:51
HobbseeFujitsu: in terms of -bugcontrol, at least, it's required08:51
HobbseeFujitsu: if it's -dev, it doesn't deal with contributors08:51
FujitsuThat's true.08:51
Hobbseeas in, non-dev contributors08:51
Hobbseebut yes, assigning to yourself seems fairly obvious - and you're only going to give yourself bugmail anyway by hitting in08:52
Hobbsees/in/it08:52
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* Hobbsee ponders filing a bug about it08:55
Hobbseeif i do, it might get ignored for 2+ months.08:56
HobbseeOTOH, if the relevant people show up in here and talk, it might get fixed RSN.08:56
Fujitsu.. and hopefully not released with 1.1.12.08:56
Hobbseethe new system probably will get released.08:57
FujitsuHopefully in a somewhat modified incarnation.08:57
Hobbseeyeah well08:57
Hobbseereported.  now we'll see how long it takes.09:03
Hobbseemorning mrevell 09:04
FujitsuHi mrevell.09:04
mrevellhey Hobbsee, Fujitsu09:04
Hobbseemrevell: we have the user-affecting bug for the next meeting, if you need one :P09:04
mrevellHobbsee: oh, cool :) What's that then?09:05
Hobbseemrevell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/173195 and listed bugs in the comments.09:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 173195 in malone "Malone on edge *click* shouldn't *click* ask *click* me if I want to *click* assign a bug to *click* a developer *click*" [High,Confirmed]  - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)09:05
Hobbseemrevell: it's only hit edge, and people are already screaming.09:05
FujitsuErm, that wasn't assigned/confirmed last time I looked.09:06
* Fujitsu checks bugmail.09:06
HobbseeFujitsu: change of an hour ago, probably09:06
ubotuNew bug: #173617 in malone "Launchpad should not ask me if i wish to assign a bug to myself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17361709:10
PengIs there any way to see the branches for a certain user for a certain project?09:23
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kiko-zzzPeng, yes. code.l.n/~user/project I believe09:41
Pengkiko-zzz: That's what I tried. 404.10:06
ddaaPeng: it does not exist10:07
ddaait should10:07
ddaafile a bug please10:07
ddaaTwo years ago, I thought "we'll implement this page a bit later"10:07
PengHeh.10:09
PengHmm, are there other places where sugh a thing should be supported? Bugs or something?10:10
ddaait would make sense for bug listings10:24
ddaaI am not sure it is such a compelling feature though10:24
FujitsuThere is ~someone/+{reported,subscribed,assigned,commented}bugs10:24
ddaaFujitsu: we're talking about restricting this further by bugtask context10:25
ddaaactually it would be tricky with bugs, because its context is not as well defined as for branches10:25
Fujitsuddaa: Doing it by bugtask should be fine.10:26
ubotuNew bug: #173627 in malone "OOPS when confirming new assignees when non-ascii characters are present in the form" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17362710:26
FujitsuBy bugs, not so much. But +*bugs shows tasks anyway.10:26
ddaaFujitsu: reported, subscribed, and commented is a property of bug, not bugtask10:26
Fujitsuddaa: That's true, but they're rendered as bugtasks.10:27
Fujitsu(you see each task for each bug having that property, not some aggregate of the bug..)10:28
ddaa*shrug*10:28
ddaaThe point is, this feature is compelling for branches10:28
ddaaand there, the context is very well defined10:29
PengBug 173633.10:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17363310:38
ubotuNew bug: #173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17363310:45
StevenHarperUKHi, I was looking at my karma score, how come I don't get any karma for, making, and packagaing a product that has got onto hardy? : https://edge.launchpad.net/~stevenharperuk/+packages10:59
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FujitsuStevenHarperUK: Because Soyuz doesn't give karma yet. That's targetted for a couple of months from now, IIRC.11:05
StevenHarperUKFujitsu: ta11:22
cprovgood morning, folks11:23
Hobbseeguten tag, cprov 11:24
DaveMorrisCan someone clear my ppa please, so I can push a build for revu to it, before I upload it (the build takes 3-4hrs) https://edge.launchpad.net/~dave-greenacre/+archive11:47
HobbseeDaveMorris: why can't you upload it as it is?11:48
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* Hobbsee moves the finishing line.11:49
DaveMorrisbecause I need to push a new source.  The one I uploaded to my ppa was weeks ago with the source been different to what I'm gonna push to revu11:49
DaveMorrisjust making sure it builds on my machine with pbuilder 1st11:49
Hobbseedoes it have the same version number?11:49
DaveMorrisyeah11:49
Hobbseedo i want to ask why the source is different?11:50
DaveMorrisbecause it's not actually a release as such, but a cvs snapshot.  And I had removed the doc's folder before for my ppa as I didn't wanna build them (I was still learning etc), but for the ubuntu archives I'm building the docs11:51
Hobbseeahhh11:52
Hobbseei'm not sure cprov is around to do it11:52
DaveMorrisno rush, I'll poke cprov about it when I see him then.  I just thought it'd be nicer on the revu guys if the package was already built for them.11:52
Hobbseethey build it themselves11:53
Hobbseejust to make sure11:53
DaveMorrisyeah, but they can see the stupid mistakes quicker this way11:54
cprovDaveMorris: file a question in product launchpad, it will be done at some point today.11:54
DaveMorristhanks11:55
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kikofe fi fo fum13:24
* Hobbsee slays kiko, and cooks him for breakfast13:24
* Fujitsu grinds Hobbsee's bones.13:30
Hobbseethat's not hard.13:32
* Hobbsee haunts Fujitsu13:32
FujitsuDamn.13:32
* Fujitsu is haunted forever.13:32
* Fujitsu goes to bed.13:32
* Hobbsee attacks him with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ™13:32
* Fujitsu throws Hobbsee an ®13:33
* Hobbsee eats it13:33
FujitsuThat was silly. Didn't you see the `Choking hazard. Not for children under 3 years of age.' sticker on it?13:33
Hobbseegood thing i'm over 3.13:34
kikono way!13:34
Hobbseekiko: :P13:35
Hobbseekiko: you're mean!13:35
kikobut at the core a good person13:35
Hobbseesure sure13:35
Hobbseeis this like i'm good, or something?13:36
kikolook at it this way: better 3 than 30.13:37
Hobbseei don't know about that....13:37
kikospeaking from experience.13:38
ubotuNew bug: #173656 in malone "Wording modify request: Please modify the wording to make it more polite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17365613:41
kikoit's nice that a request for a polite message starts with please. :)13:41
Hobbseehehe13:42
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ubotuNew bug: #173670 in rosetta "IndexError on pluralforms during import" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17367015:00
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ubuntufreakI have problem with signing the code of conduct http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3941/errorra5.png15:43
ubuntufreakany help?15:45
Hobbseeyou need to register your public key in launchpad first15:45
Hobbsee!gpg15:45
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts15:45
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ubuntufreakHobbsee: I have done that before and received an encrypted mail from launchpad15:47
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hype_Hi, i mailed "launchpad" to add the opera-browser bug report system, which is missing as stated here:  https://launchpad.net/opera-browser/+filebug 18:07
hype_here is their bugreport page: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/18:07
hype_can it be added to launchpad?  Thanks. :)18:08
Odd_Blokehype_: You'd be best opening a question about it.18:10
stdinhype_: why not just file a bug against the package https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/ ?18:10
hype_ok, i actually mailed at the adress mentionned on launchpad opera's page18:10
hype_with these infos, is it enough?18:11
hype_ok, im doing the bug report against opera :)18:13
hype_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/+bug/17371018:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,New] 18:15
hype_ok, thanks everyone. :)18:16
lamontre: 'build queue depth' on lp.net/+builds.... 'twould be nice if the architecture names were links to a page with the full queue19:56
lamont(since it's clearly more than /ubuntu/hardy/$arch/+builds19:56
lamont)19:56
kikothere is no page with the full queue19:57
kikobut it's only more for the PPA archs19:57
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reconWhat seems to be a completely inactive account at https://launchpad.net/~recon/ is taking up the name I customarily use. Is there any way to get it deleted, or can't I?20:11
intellectronicarecon: maybe you can contact the user (they have an email address) and ask? remember that it's possible to change your username in launchpad20:14
reconintellectronica: i already have an existing account. i didn't get a reply from the address (this was about six months ago)20:14
intellectronicarecon: oh, i see20:16
kikorecon, I've renamed his address. feel free to take it over.20:19
reconkiko: wow. thanks.20:19
kikorecon, what's your former ID, btw?20:19
reconkiko: ~recon-etc20:19
kikorecon, and you have recon registered on freenode?20:20
reconit has something to do with bad ISPs.20:20
reconkiko: yes.20:20
kikothen go ahead and take it :)20:20
reconkiko: already did.20:20
kikohah20:20
reconyeah, i'm kinda compulsive about keeping my identity the same throughout the internet.20:21
kikonot a bad idea20:21
javaJakerecon, same here20:22
javaJakerecon, javaJake's luckily 90% unique. :)20:22
javaJakeGoogling brings strange results, though. :/20:23
reconjavaJake: you think _you_ have problems with googling your nick?20:23
javaJakelol20:23
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kergothHow does one disable features of launchpad for a specific project, like if its maintainers don't want to make use of, say, Answers?20:45
slangasekcan someone explain to me why the Debian status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/vips/+bug/161760 shows as "new", when the Debian bug it's marked as tracking is "done"?20:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 161760 in vips "Please sync vips 7.12.5-2 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,In progress]  - Assigned to Steve Langasek (vorlon)20:50
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javaJakeslangasek, looks like they're working away at it. I wouldn't be worried21:13
slangasekjavaJake: it looks like who's working away at what?21:14
javaJakeslangasek, fixing/closing/whatever21:14
javaJakeslangasek, look at the last comment - it is dated 12/1/0721:14
javaJakeGive them at least a week before you wonder what's up. :)21:14
slangasekjavaJake: the state that LP reports for the Debian bug is wrong, and has been since November 17.21:15
BjornTslangasek: hmm. it last synced the status 2007-11-15. let me check if i can see why it hasn't synced since then.21:15
slangasekBjornT: ok, thanks.21:16
kikofor a debian bug that's odd.21:16
* slangasek chuckles21:16
BjornTslangasek, kiko: oh. there's a db permission error, which causes the error reporting to fail. i'll make sure it gets fixed tomorrow.21:21
slangasekok, cheers21:21
FujitsuI note a number of my watches haven't update either in a while either (still Unknown).21:31
kikoFujitsu, it's what BjornT said. a bongo bug.21:34
FujitsuAh, so it's a global bug?21:36
kikoin checkwatches21:37
kikobut it's easy to fix -- just a silly permissions problem.21:38
kikoFujitsu, why don't you tell me how dget works?21:42
kikoFujitsu, do you just feed it a DSC url?21:42
ubotuNew bug: #173752 in malone "If a db error occurs while updating a bug watch, all remaining bug watches for that bug tracker will fail to update" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17375221:46
Fujitsukiko: You just feed it a .dsc URL, yeah.21:48
kikothanks21:48
frafuHello, If I remember correctly, some time ago I downloaded the changes of which revision of a project in launchpad as a diff file; unfortunately I cannot find anymore how to do it. Has that possibility been removed? 22:03
ianm1why is it that I 'push' in one place and 'pull' in another and I see, respectively: "Pushed up to revision 376." and "No revisions to pull." ?22:13
ianm1and 'bzr update' says 'Tree is up to date at revision 372.'22:14
somerville32ianm1, push (to the server), pull (from the server), and update (the working tree).22:15
ianm1somerville32: how do I refresh the tree that was created with 'bzr branch' ?  or is branch not the right one to use22:16
somerville32branch creates a copy of the branch22:17
somerville32If you want to merge, you use the merge command22:17
somerville32'bzr help' is also very comprehensive.22:17
somerville32For more help with bazaar, you might see #bzr22:18
ianm1the website suggests users use 'branch' to download22:18
somerville32ianm1, Right22:18
Fujitsubranch or checkout is to downloa?22:18
somerville32ianm1, pull is pretty much "sync"22:18
Fujitsu*download22:18
ianm1so if a user of my software uses 'bzr branch', how can I get an update to them ?22:18
Fujitsubzr pull, or merge if they have made changes.22:18
lifelessFujitsu: checkout is to work in cvs/svn mode22:18
lifelessFujitsu: branch is to make a new branch22:18
Fujitsulifeless: Right, but users might well not want to make changes.22:19
lifelessFujitsu: IME they get confused when the *do*, because they checked out someone *elses* branch22:19
FujitsuI guess so.22:19
lifelessFujitsu: so I never tell new users about checkout unless they are using bzr-svn. 22:19
FujitsuProbably a good policy.22:19
lifelessOr they are setting up a central branch for a team (and thus checkout is useful to them)22:20
lifelessWhat I tell new users is 'bzr branch X to get a local mirror. bzr pull to refresh it. If you want to develop there, change to using bzr merge, and use bzr push to publish.'22:20
ianm1but bzr pull doesn't seem to get updates22:25
somerville32ianm1, bzr pull <branch>22:26
ianm1ah ok thanks22:27
jcastroif I have ownership of a hosted branch on lp, will changing the owner from myself basically turn it into a team branch?22:30
lifelessyes22:30
jcastrota22:30
Flare183How does the mentoring process work?22:30
jcastrolifeless: oh rock, it even changes the url22:31
thumperjcastro: it makes it a team branch if the new owner is a team22:32
thumperjcastro: and how are those push ups going?22:32
jcastrothumper: 85 over three days22:33
jcastroI am behind22:33
ianm1jcastro: what's the goal?22:33
thumperjcastro: my shoulder is a little sore, and I'm trying to be gentle on it22:33
thumperianm1: 2000 in december22:33
jcastroianm1: 2000 in one month22:33
jcastrothumper: I have these push up bars so my wrists don't get sore22:34
ianm1good goal22:34
thumperjcastro: I'm trying to get mine out of the way before Christmas22:34
thumperjcastro: as I feel that my normal champagne breakfast on christmas will not make me feel condusive to more push ups22:37
jcastrothumper: I am doing them in lieu of my normal typing breaks22:38
thumperjcastro: I don't have normal typing breaks22:39
jcastroso, if I do 10 at the end of every hour, and I work 8 hours a day, that's 80 per day22:39
thumperjcastro: sounds like a good plan22:39
ianm1a dumbbell next to the desk works great for typing/compiling breaks (curse all you high level interpreted languages!)22:39
ubotuNew bug: #173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17371023:01

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