[00:30] I'm using vcs-imports, how often does it update the repositories? Mine is at: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpns/trunk , and I made a commit about 20 minutes ago [00:38] alecwh: at the moment, every six hours [00:38] there is a bug filed somwhere about making it more configurable [00:39] thumper: Ok, that's good. I was just making sure it actually updates for my project. Thanks. :) === superm1_ is now known as superm1 === kiko-afk is now known as kiko-zzz === doko_ is now known as doko === stu1 is now known as stub === thegodfather is now known as fabbione [07:35] New bug: #173595 in launchpad "person's bug search page lists every milestone in every project" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173595 [07:37] duplicate [08:06] New bug: #173597 in launchpad "want to directly create an faq" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173597 [08:31] duplicate [08:46] Fujitsu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/138500 was the original [08:46] Launchpad bug 138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica) [08:46] Hobbsee: Yeah, I found that yesterday. [08:46] ah [08:46] Or day before. One of them. [08:46] Not long after I filed mine. [08:46] Fujitsu: this is just a good reason not to assign bugs. or fix them. [08:46] Hah. [08:47] and to screenscrape and use email as much as possible. [08:47] * Fujitsu waits impatiently for the first bits of the API to materialise. [08:47] Fujitsu: then again, i'm not sure you should be getting it anywya - seeing as it's supposed to just relate to the project...which i thought was ubuntu. [08:48] Hobbsee: Right. [08:48] But no, every SourcePackage in every DistroSeries is a different context. [08:48] Might as well say `William Grant isn't assigned to this bug yet. Are you sure you want to assign him?' [08:48] all under the global ubuntu, i would have thought [08:49] like, why limit it to each distro-series? [08:49] Right, it should be global over Ubuntu. Or at least not complain about ~ubuntu-dev members. [08:49] intellectronica: fix it :) [08:49] Speaking of the devil. [08:50] yes, speak of the devil. [08:50] Fujitsu: doing it for anyone involved in ubuntu bug triage is going to be a bitch. [08:50] not just -dev [08:50] Oh, because these triaging people like to assign themselves, right. [08:51] And is it valid to ask me if I want to assign me? That also sounds silly. [08:51] Fujitsu: well, that's true. [08:51] Fujitsu: in terms of -bugcontrol, at least, it's required [08:51] Fujitsu: if it's -dev, it doesn't deal with contributors [08:51] That's true. [08:51] as in, non-dev contributors [08:52] but yes, assigning to yourself seems fairly obvious - and you're only going to give yourself bugmail anyway by hitting in [08:52] s/in/it === \sh_away is now known as \sh [08:55] * Hobbsee ponders filing a bug about it [08:56] if i do, it might get ignored for 2+ months. [08:56] OTOH, if the relevant people show up in here and talk, it might get fixed RSN. [08:56] .. and hopefully not released with 1.1.12. [08:57] the new system probably will get released. [08:57] Hopefully in a somewhat modified incarnation. [08:57] yeah well [09:03] reported. now we'll see how long it takes. [09:04] morning mrevell [09:04] Hi mrevell. [09:04] hey Hobbsee, Fujitsu [09:04] mrevell: we have the user-affecting bug for the next meeting, if you need one :P [09:05] Hobbsee: oh, cool :) What's that then? [09:05] mrevell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/173195 and listed bugs in the comments. [09:05] Launchpad bug 173195 in malone "Malone on edge *click* shouldn't *click* ask *click* me if I want to *click* assign a bug to *click* a developer *click*" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica) [09:05] mrevell: it's only hit edge, and people are already screaming. [09:06] Erm, that wasn't assigned/confirmed last time I looked. [09:06] * Fujitsu checks bugmail. [09:06] Fujitsu: change of an hour ago, probably [09:10] New bug: #173617 in malone "Launchpad should not ask me if i wish to assign a bug to myself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173617 [09:23] Is there any way to see the branches for a certain user for a certain project? === Hobbsee_ is now known as Hobbsee [09:41] Peng, yes. code.l.n/~user/project I believe [10:06] kiko-zzz: That's what I tried. 404. [10:07] Peng: it does not exist [10:07] it should [10:07] file a bug please [10:07] Two years ago, I thought "we'll implement this page a bit later" [10:09] Heh. [10:10] Hmm, are there other places where sugh a thing should be supported? Bugs or something? [10:24] it would make sense for bug listings [10:24] I am not sure it is such a compelling feature though [10:24] There is ~someone/+{reported,subscribed,assigned,commented}bugs [10:25] Fujitsu: we're talking about restricting this further by bugtask context [10:25] actually it would be tricky with bugs, because its context is not as well defined as for branches [10:26] ddaa: Doing it by bugtask should be fine. [10:26] New bug: #173627 in malone "OOPS when confirming new assignees when non-ascii characters are present in the form" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173627 [10:26] By bugs, not so much. But +*bugs shows tasks anyway. [10:26] Fujitsu: reported, subscribed, and commented is a property of bug, not bugtask [10:27] ddaa: That's true, but they're rendered as bugtasks. [10:28] (you see each task for each bug having that property, not some aggregate of the bug..) [10:28] *shrug* [10:28] The point is, this feature is compelling for branches [10:29] and there, the context is very well defined [10:38] Bug 173633. [10:38] Launchpad bug 173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173633 [10:45] New bug: #173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173633 [10:59] Hi, I was looking at my karma score, how come I don't get any karma for, making, and packagaing a product that has got onto hardy? : https://edge.launchpad.net/~stevenharperuk/+packages === meduxa is now known as toscalix [11:05] StevenHarperUK: Because Soyuz doesn't give karma yet. That's targetted for a couple of months from now, IIRC. [11:22] Fujitsu: ta [11:23] good morning, folks [11:24] guten tag, cprov [11:47] Can someone clear my ppa please, so I can push a build for revu to it, before I upload it (the build takes 3-4hrs) https://edge.launchpad.net/~dave-greenacre/+archive [11:48] DaveMorris: why can't you upload it as it is? === mrevell is now known as mrevell-sprint [11:49] * Hobbsee moves the finishing line. [11:49] because I need to push a new source. The one I uploaded to my ppa was weeks ago with the source been different to what I'm gonna push to revu [11:49] just making sure it builds on my machine with pbuilder 1st [11:49] does it have the same version number? [11:49] yeah [11:50] do i want to ask why the source is different? [11:51] because it's not actually a release as such, but a cvs snapshot. And I had removed the doc's folder before for my ppa as I didn't wanna build them (I was still learning etc), but for the ubuntu archives I'm building the docs [11:52] ahhh [11:52] i'm not sure cprov is around to do it [11:52] no rush, I'll poke cprov about it when I see him then. I just thought it'd be nicer on the revu guys if the package was already built for them. [11:53] they build it themselves [11:53] just to make sure [11:54] yeah, but they can see the stupid mistakes quicker this way [11:54] DaveMorris: file a question in product launchpad, it will be done at some point today. [11:55] thanks === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko [13:24] fe fi fo fum [13:24] * Hobbsee slays kiko, and cooks him for breakfast [13:30] * Fujitsu grinds Hobbsee's bones. [13:32] that's not hard. [13:32] * Hobbsee haunts Fujitsu [13:32] Damn. [13:32] * Fujitsu is haunted forever. [13:32] * Fujitsu goes to bed. [13:32] * Hobbsee attacks him with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ™ [13:33] * Fujitsu throws Hobbsee an ® [13:33] * Hobbsee eats it [13:33] That was silly. Didn't you see the `Choking hazard. Not for children under 3 years of age.' sticker on it? [13:34] good thing i'm over 3. [13:34] no way! [13:35] kiko: :P [13:35] kiko: you're mean! [13:35] but at the core a good person [13:35] sure sure [13:36] is this like i'm good, or something? [13:37] look at it this way: better 3 than 30. [13:37] i don't know about that.... [13:38] speaking from experience. [13:41] New bug: #173656 in malone "Wording modify request: Please modify the wording to make it more polite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173656 [13:41] it's nice that a request for a polite message starts with please. :) [13:42] hehe === Fujitsu_ is now known as Fujitsu === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch [15:00] New bug: #173670 in rosetta "IndexError on pluralforms during import" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173670 === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === Ubulette_ is now known as Ubulette [15:43] I have problem with signing the code of conduct http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3941/errorra5.png [15:45] any help? [15:45] you need to register your public key in launchpad first [15:45] !gpg [15:45] gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts [15:45] * Hobbsee --> bed [15:47] Hobbsee: I have done that before and received an encrypted mail from launchpad === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === \sh is now known as \sh_away === blueyed__ is now known as blueyed [18:07] Hi, i mailed "launchpad" to add the opera-browser bug report system, which is missing as stated here: https://launchpad.net/opera-browser/+filebug [18:07] here is their bugreport page: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/ [18:08] can it be added to launchpad? Thanks. :) [18:10] hype_: You'd be best opening a question about it. [18:10] hype_: why not just file a bug against the package https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/ ? [18:10] ok, i actually mailed at the adress mentionned on launchpad opera's page [18:11] with these infos, is it enough? [18:13] ok, im doing the bug report against opera :) [18:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/+bug/173710 [18:15] Launchpad bug 173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,New] [18:16] ok, thanks everyone. :) [19:56] re: 'build queue depth' on lp.net/+builds.... 'twould be nice if the architecture names were links to a page with the full queue [19:56] (since it's clearly more than /ubuntu/hardy/$arch/+builds [19:56] ) [19:57] there is no page with the full queue [19:57] but it's only more for the PPA archs === cprov is now known as cprov-out [20:11] What seems to be a completely inactive account at https://launchpad.net/~recon/ is taking up the name I customarily use. Is there any way to get it deleted, or can't I? [20:14] recon: maybe you can contact the user (they have an email address) and ask? remember that it's possible to change your username in launchpad [20:14] intellectronica: i already have an existing account. i didn't get a reply from the address (this was about six months ago) [20:16] recon: oh, i see [20:19] recon, I've renamed his address. feel free to take it over. [20:19] kiko: wow. thanks. [20:19] recon, what's your former ID, btw? [20:19] kiko: ~recon-etc [20:20] recon, and you have recon registered on freenode? [20:20] it has something to do with bad ISPs. [20:20] kiko: yes. [20:20] then go ahead and take it :) [20:20] kiko: already did. [20:20] hah [20:21] yeah, i'm kinda compulsive about keeping my identity the same throughout the internet. [20:21] not a bad idea [20:22] recon, same here [20:22] recon, javaJake's luckily 90% unique. :) [20:23] Googling brings strange results, though. :/ [20:23] javaJake: you think _you_ have problems with googling your nick? [20:23] lol === \sh_away is now known as \sh [20:45] How does one disable features of launchpad for a specific project, like if its maintainers don't want to make use of, say, Answers? [20:50] can someone explain to me why the Debian status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/vips/+bug/161760 shows as "new", when the Debian bug it's marked as tracking is "done"? [20:50] Launchpad bug 161760 in vips "Please sync vips 7.12.5-2 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Langasek (vorlon) === \sh is now known as \sh_away [21:13] slangasek, looks like they're working away at it. I wouldn't be worried [21:14] javaJake: it looks like who's working away at what? [21:14] slangasek, fixing/closing/whatever [21:14] slangasek, look at the last comment - it is dated 12/1/07 [21:14] Give them at least a week before you wonder what's up. :) [21:15] javaJake: the state that LP reports for the Debian bug is wrong, and has been since November 17. [21:15] slangasek: hmm. it last synced the status 2007-11-15. let me check if i can see why it hasn't synced since then. [21:16] BjornT: ok, thanks. [21:16] for a debian bug that's odd. [21:16] * slangasek chuckles [21:21] slangasek, kiko: oh. there's a db permission error, which causes the error reporting to fail. i'll make sure it gets fixed tomorrow. [21:21] ok, cheers [21:31] I note a number of my watches haven't update either in a while either (still Unknown). [21:34] Fujitsu, it's what BjornT said. a bongo bug. [21:36] Ah, so it's a global bug? [21:37] in checkwatches [21:38] but it's easy to fix -- just a silly permissions problem. [21:42] Fujitsu, why don't you tell me how dget works? [21:42] Fujitsu, do you just feed it a DSC url? [21:46] New bug: #173752 in malone "If a db error occurs while updating a bug watch, all remaining bug watches for that bug tracker will fail to update" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173752 [21:48] kiko: You just feed it a .dsc URL, yeah. [21:48] thanks [22:03] Hello, If I remember correctly, some time ago I downloaded the changes of which revision of a project in launchpad as a diff file; unfortunately I cannot find anymore how to do it. Has that possibility been removed? [22:13] why is it that I 'push' in one place and 'pull' in another and I see, respectively: "Pushed up to revision 376." and "No revisions to pull." ? [22:14] and 'bzr update' says 'Tree is up to date at revision 372.' [22:15] ianm1, push (to the server), pull (from the server), and update (the working tree). [22:16] somerville32: how do I refresh the tree that was created with 'bzr branch' ? or is branch not the right one to use [22:17] branch creates a copy of the branch [22:17] If you want to merge, you use the merge command [22:17] 'bzr help' is also very comprehensive. [22:18] For more help with bazaar, you might see #bzr [22:18] the website suggests users use 'branch' to download [22:18] ianm1, Right [22:18] branch or checkout is to downloa? [22:18] ianm1, pull is pretty much "sync" [22:18] *download [22:18] so if a user of my software uses 'bzr branch', how can I get an update to them ? [22:18] bzr pull, or merge if they have made changes. [22:18] Fujitsu: checkout is to work in cvs/svn mode [22:18] Fujitsu: branch is to make a new branch [22:19] lifeless: Right, but users might well not want to make changes. [22:19] Fujitsu: IME they get confused when the *do*, because they checked out someone *elses* branch [22:19] I guess so. [22:19] Fujitsu: so I never tell new users about checkout unless they are using bzr-svn. [22:19] Probably a good policy. [22:20] Or they are setting up a central branch for a team (and thus checkout is useful to them) [22:20] What I tell new users is 'bzr branch X to get a local mirror. bzr pull to refresh it. If you want to develop there, change to using bzr merge, and use bzr push to publish.' [22:25] but bzr pull doesn't seem to get updates [22:26] ianm1, bzr pull [22:27] ah ok thanks [22:30] if I have ownership of a hosted branch on lp, will changing the owner from myself basically turn it into a team branch? [22:30] yes [22:30] ta [22:30] How does the mentoring process work? [22:31] lifeless: oh rock, it even changes the url [22:32] jcastro: it makes it a team branch if the new owner is a team [22:32] jcastro: and how are those push ups going? [22:33] thumper: 85 over three days [22:33] I am behind [22:33] jcastro: what's the goal? [22:33] jcastro: my shoulder is a little sore, and I'm trying to be gentle on it [22:33] ianm1: 2000 in december [22:33] ianm1: 2000 in one month [22:34] thumper: I have these push up bars so my wrists don't get sore [22:34] good goal [22:34] jcastro: I'm trying to get mine out of the way before Christmas [22:37] jcastro: as I feel that my normal champagne breakfast on christmas will not make me feel condusive to more push ups [22:38] thumper: I am doing them in lieu of my normal typing breaks [22:39] jcastro: I don't have normal typing breaks [22:39] so, if I do 10 at the end of every hour, and I work 8 hours a day, that's 80 per day [22:39] jcastro: sounds like a good plan [22:39] a dumbbell next to the desk works great for typing/compiling breaks (curse all you high level interpreted languages!) [23:01] New bug: #173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173710