[00:30] <alecwh> I'm using vcs-imports, how often does it update the repositories? Mine is at: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/phpns/trunk , and I made a commit about 20 minutes ago
[00:38] <thumper> alecwh: at the moment, every six hours
[00:38] <thumper> there is a bug filed somwhere about making it more configurable
[00:39] <alecwh> thumper: Ok, that's good. I was just making sure it actually updates for my project. Thanks. :)
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #173595 in launchpad "person's bug search page lists every milestone in every project" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173595
[07:37] <mpt> duplicate
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #173597 in launchpad "want to directly create an faq" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173597
[08:31] <mpt> duplicate
[08:46] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/138500 was the original
[08:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 138500 in malone "Warn if assigning a bug to someone not involved with the project" [Undecided,Fix committed]  - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Yeah, I found that yesterday.
[08:46] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Or day before. One of them.
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Not long after I filed mine.
[08:46] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: this is just a good reason not to assign bugs.  or fix them.
[08:46] <Fujitsu> Hah.
[08:47] <Hobbsee> and to screenscrape and use email as much as possible.
[08:47]  * Fujitsu waits impatiently for the first bits of the API to materialise.
[08:47] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: then again, i'm not sure you should be getting it anywya - seeing as it's supposed to just relate to the project...which i thought was ubuntu.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: Right.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> But no, every SourcePackage in every DistroSeries is a different context.
[08:48] <Fujitsu> Might as well say `William Grant isn't assigned to this bug yet. Are you sure you want to assign him?'
[08:48] <Hobbsee> all under the global ubuntu, i would have thought
[08:49] <Hobbsee> like, why limit it to each distro-series?
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Right, it should be global over Ubuntu. Or at least not complain about ~ubuntu-dev members.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: fix it :)
[08:49] <Fujitsu> Speaking of the devil.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> yes, speak of the devil.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: doing it for anyone involved in ubuntu bug triage is going to be a bitch.
[08:50] <Hobbsee> not just -dev
[08:50] <Fujitsu> Oh, because these triaging people like to assign themselves, right.
[08:51] <Fujitsu> And is it valid to ask me if I want to assign me? That also sounds silly.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: well, that's true.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: in terms of -bugcontrol, at least, it's required
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: if it's -dev, it doesn't deal with contributors
[08:51] <Fujitsu> That's true.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> as in, non-dev contributors
[08:52] <Hobbsee> but yes, assigning to yourself seems fairly obvious - and you're only going to give yourself bugmail anyway by hitting in
[08:52] <Hobbsee> s/in/it
[08:55]  * Hobbsee ponders filing a bug about it
[08:56] <Hobbsee> if i do, it might get ignored for 2+ months.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> OTOH, if the relevant people show up in here and talk, it might get fixed RSN.
[08:56] <Fujitsu> .. and hopefully not released with 1.1.12.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> the new system probably will get released.
[08:57] <Fujitsu> Hopefully in a somewhat modified incarnation.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> yeah well
[09:03] <Hobbsee> reported.  now we'll see how long it takes.
[09:04] <Hobbsee> morning mrevell 
[09:04] <Fujitsu> Hi mrevell.
[09:04] <mrevell> hey Hobbsee, Fujitsu
[09:04] <Hobbsee> mrevell: we have the user-affecting bug for the next meeting, if you need one :P
[09:05] <mrevell> Hobbsee: oh, cool :) What's that then?
[09:05] <Hobbsee> mrevell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/173195 and listed bugs in the comments.
[09:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173195 in malone "Malone on edge *click* shouldn't *click* ask *click* me if I want to *click* assign a bug to *click* a developer *click*" [High,Confirmed]  - Assigned to Tom Berger (intellectronica)
[09:05] <Hobbsee> mrevell: it's only hit edge, and people are already screaming.
[09:06] <Fujitsu> Erm, that wasn't assigned/confirmed last time I looked.
[09:06]  * Fujitsu checks bugmail.
[09:06] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: change of an hour ago, probably
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #173617 in malone "Launchpad should not ask me if i wish to assign a bug to myself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173617
[09:23] <Peng> Is there any way to see the branches for a certain user for a certain project?
[09:41] <kiko-zzz> Peng, yes. code.l.n/~user/project I believe
[10:06] <Peng> kiko-zzz: That's what I tried. 404.
[10:07] <ddaa> Peng: it does not exist
[10:07] <ddaa> it should
[10:07] <ddaa> file a bug please
[10:07] <ddaa> Two years ago, I thought "we'll implement this page a bit later"
[10:09] <Peng> Heh.
[10:10] <Peng> Hmm, are there other places where sugh a thing should be supported? Bugs or something?
[10:24] <ddaa> it would make sense for bug listings
[10:24] <ddaa> I am not sure it is such a compelling feature though
[10:24] <Fujitsu> There is ~someone/+{reported,subscribed,assigned,commented}bugs
[10:25] <ddaa> Fujitsu: we're talking about restricting this further by bugtask context
[10:25] <ddaa> actually it would be tricky with bugs, because its context is not as well defined as for branches
[10:26] <Fujitsu> ddaa: Doing it by bugtask should be fine.
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #173627 in malone "OOPS when confirming new assignees when non-ascii characters are present in the form" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173627
[10:26] <Fujitsu> By bugs, not so much. But +*bugs shows tasks anyway.
[10:26] <ddaa> Fujitsu: reported, subscribed, and commented is a property of bug, not bugtask
[10:27] <Fujitsu> ddaa: That's true, but they're rendered as bugtasks.
[10:28] <Fujitsu> (you see each task for each bug having that property, not some aggregate of the bug..)
[10:28] <ddaa> *shrug*
[10:28] <ddaa> The point is, this feature is compelling for branches
[10:29] <ddaa> and there, the context is very well defined
[10:38] <Peng> Bug 173633.
[10:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173633
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #173633 in launchpad "Support showing branches per-user per-project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173633
[10:59] <StevenHarperUK> Hi, I was looking at my karma score, how come I don't get any karma for, making, and packagaing a product that has got onto hardy? : https://edge.launchpad.net/~stevenharperuk/+packages
[11:05] <Fujitsu> StevenHarperUK: Because Soyuz doesn't give karma yet. That's targetted for a couple of months from now, IIRC.
[11:22] <StevenHarperUK> Fujitsu: ta
[11:23] <cprov> good morning, folks
[11:24] <Hobbsee> guten tag, cprov 
[11:47] <DaveMorris> Can someone clear my ppa please, so I can push a build for revu to it, before I upload it (the build takes 3-4hrs) https://edge.launchpad.net/~dave-greenacre/+archive
[11:48] <Hobbsee> DaveMorris: why can't you upload it as it is?
[11:49]  * Hobbsee moves the finishing line.
[11:49] <DaveMorris> because I need to push a new source.  The one I uploaded to my ppa was weeks ago with the source been different to what I'm gonna push to revu
[11:49] <DaveMorris> just making sure it builds on my machine with pbuilder 1st
[11:49] <Hobbsee> does it have the same version number?
[11:49] <DaveMorris> yeah
[11:50] <Hobbsee> do i want to ask why the source is different?
[11:51] <DaveMorris> because it's not actually a release as such, but a cvs snapshot.  And I had removed the doc's folder before for my ppa as I didn't wanna build them (I was still learning etc), but for the ubuntu archives I'm building the docs
[11:52] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[11:52] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure cprov is around to do it
[11:52] <DaveMorris> no rush, I'll poke cprov about it when I see him then.  I just thought it'd be nicer on the revu guys if the package was already built for them.
[11:53] <Hobbsee> they build it themselves
[11:53] <Hobbsee> just to make sure
[11:54] <DaveMorris> yeah, but they can see the stupid mistakes quicker this way
[11:54] <cprov> DaveMorris: file a question in product launchpad, it will be done at some point today.
[11:55] <DaveMorris> thanks
[13:24] <kiko> fe fi fo fum
[13:24]  * Hobbsee slays kiko, and cooks him for breakfast
[13:30]  * Fujitsu grinds Hobbsee's bones.
[13:32] <Hobbsee> that's not hard.
[13:32]  * Hobbsee haunts Fujitsu
[13:32] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[13:32]  * Fujitsu is haunted forever.
[13:32]  * Fujitsu goes to bed.
[13:32]  * Hobbsee attacks him with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ™
[13:33]  * Fujitsu throws Hobbsee an ®
[13:33]  * Hobbsee eats it
[13:33] <Fujitsu> That was silly. Didn't you see the `Choking hazard. Not for children under 3 years of age.' sticker on it?
[13:34] <Hobbsee> good thing i'm over 3.
[13:34] <kiko> no way!
[13:35] <Hobbsee> kiko: :P
[13:35] <Hobbsee> kiko: you're mean!
[13:35] <kiko> but at the core a good person
[13:35] <Hobbsee> sure sure
[13:36] <Hobbsee> is this like i'm good, or something?
[13:37] <kiko> look at it this way: better 3 than 30.
[13:37] <Hobbsee> i don't know about that....
[13:38] <kiko> speaking from experience.
[13:41] <ubotu> New bug: #173656 in malone "Wording modify request: Please modify the wording to make it more polite" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173656
[13:41] <kiko> it's nice that a request for a polite message starts with please. :)
[13:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[15:00] <ubotu> New bug: #173670 in rosetta "IndexError on pluralforms during import" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173670
[15:43] <ubuntufreak> I have problem with signing the code of conduct http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3941/errorra5.png
[15:45] <ubuntufreak> any help?
[15:45] <Hobbsee> you need to register your public key in launchpad first
[15:45] <Hobbsee> !gpg
[15:45] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[15:45]  * Hobbsee --> bed
[15:47] <ubuntufreak> Hobbsee: I have done that before and received an encrypted mail from launchpad
[18:07] <hype_> Hi, i mailed "launchpad" to add the opera-browser bug report system, which is missing as stated here:  https://launchpad.net/opera-browser/+filebug 
[18:07] <hype_> here is their bugreport page: https://bugs.opera.com/wizard/
[18:08] <hype_> can it be added to launchpad?  Thanks. :)
[18:10] <Odd_Bloke> hype_: You'd be best opening a question about it.
[18:10] <stdin> hype_: why not just file a bug against the package https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/ ?
[18:10] <hype_> ok, i actually mailed at the adress mentionned on launchpad opera's page
[18:11] <hype_> with these infos, is it enough?
[18:13] <hype_> ok, im doing the bug report against opera :)
[18:15] <hype_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opera/+bug/173710
[18:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,New] 
[18:16] <hype_> ok, thanks everyone. :)
[19:56] <lamont> re: 'build queue depth' on lp.net/+builds.... 'twould be nice if the architecture names were links to a page with the full queue
[19:56] <lamont> (since it's clearly more than /ubuntu/hardy/$arch/+builds
[19:56] <lamont> )
[19:57] <kiko> there is no page with the full queue
[19:57] <kiko> but it's only more for the PPA archs
[20:11] <recon> What seems to be a completely inactive account at https://launchpad.net/~recon/ is taking up the name I customarily use. Is there any way to get it deleted, or can't I?
[20:14] <intellectronica> recon: maybe you can contact the user (they have an email address) and ask? remember that it's possible to change your username in launchpad
[20:14] <recon> intellectronica: i already have an existing account. i didn't get a reply from the address (this was about six months ago)
[20:16] <intellectronica> recon: oh, i see
[20:19] <kiko> recon, I've renamed his address. feel free to take it over.
[20:19] <recon> kiko: wow. thanks.
[20:19] <kiko> recon, what's your former ID, btw?
[20:19] <recon> kiko: ~recon-etc
[20:20] <kiko> recon, and you have recon registered on freenode?
[20:20] <recon> it has something to do with bad ISPs.
[20:20] <recon> kiko: yes.
[20:20] <kiko> then go ahead and take it :)
[20:20] <recon> kiko: already did.
[20:20] <kiko> hah
[20:21] <recon> yeah, i'm kinda compulsive about keeping my identity the same throughout the internet.
[20:21] <kiko> not a bad idea
[20:22] <javaJake> recon, same here
[20:22] <javaJake> recon, javaJake's luckily 90% unique. :)
[20:23] <javaJake> Googling brings strange results, though. :/
[20:23] <recon> javaJake: you think _you_ have problems with googling your nick?
[20:23] <javaJake> lol
[20:45] <kergoth> How does one disable features of launchpad for a specific project, like if its maintainers don't want to make use of, say, Answers?
[20:50] <slangasek> can someone explain to me why the Debian status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/vips/+bug/161760 shows as "new", when the Debian bug it's marked as tracking is "done"?
[20:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 161760 in vips "Please sync vips 7.12.5-2 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,In progress]  - Assigned to Steve Langasek (vorlon)
[21:13] <javaJake> slangasek, looks like they're working away at it. I wouldn't be worried
[21:14] <slangasek> javaJake: it looks like who's working away at what?
[21:14] <javaJake> slangasek, fixing/closing/whatever
[21:14] <javaJake> slangasek, look at the last comment - it is dated 12/1/07
[21:14] <javaJake> Give them at least a week before you wonder what's up. :)
[21:15] <slangasek> javaJake: the state that LP reports for the Debian bug is wrong, and has been since November 17.
[21:15] <BjornT> slangasek: hmm. it last synced the status 2007-11-15. let me check if i can see why it hasn't synced since then.
[21:16] <slangasek> BjornT: ok, thanks.
[21:16] <kiko> for a debian bug that's odd.
[21:16]  * slangasek chuckles
[21:21] <BjornT> slangasek, kiko: oh. there's a db permission error, which causes the error reporting to fail. i'll make sure it gets fixed tomorrow.
[21:21] <slangasek> ok, cheers
[21:31] <Fujitsu> I note a number of my watches haven't update either in a while either (still Unknown).
[21:34] <kiko> Fujitsu, it's what BjornT said. a bongo bug.
[21:36] <Fujitsu> Ah, so it's a global bug?
[21:37] <kiko> in checkwatches
[21:38] <kiko> but it's easy to fix -- just a silly permissions problem.
[21:42] <kiko> Fujitsu, why don't you tell me how dget works?
[21:42] <kiko> Fujitsu, do you just feed it a DSC url?
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #173752 in malone "If a db error occurs while updating a bug watch, all remaining bug watches for that bug tracker will fail to update" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173752
[21:48] <Fujitsu> kiko: You just feed it a .dsc URL, yeah.
[21:48] <kiko> thanks
[22:03] <frafu> Hello, If I remember correctly, some time ago I downloaded the changes of which revision of a project in launchpad as a diff file; unfortunately I cannot find anymore how to do it. Has that possibility been removed? 
[22:13] <ianm1> why is it that I 'push' in one place and 'pull' in another and I see, respectively: "Pushed up to revision 376." and "No revisions to pull." ?
[22:14] <ianm1> and 'bzr update' says 'Tree is up to date at revision 372.'
[22:15] <somerville32> ianm1, push (to the server), pull (from the server), and update (the working tree).
[22:16] <ianm1> somerville32: how do I refresh the tree that was created with 'bzr branch' ?  or is branch not the right one to use
[22:17] <somerville32> branch creates a copy of the branch
[22:17] <somerville32> If you want to merge, you use the merge command
[22:17] <somerville32> 'bzr help' is also very comprehensive.
[22:18] <somerville32> For more help with bazaar, you might see #bzr
[22:18] <ianm1> the website suggests users use 'branch' to download
[22:18] <somerville32> ianm1, Right
[22:18] <Fujitsu> branch or checkout is to downloa?
[22:18] <somerville32> ianm1, pull is pretty much "sync"
[22:18] <Fujitsu> *download
[22:18] <ianm1> so if a user of my software uses 'bzr branch', how can I get an update to them ?
[22:18] <Fujitsu> bzr pull, or merge if they have made changes.
[22:18] <lifeless> Fujitsu: checkout is to work in cvs/svn mode
[22:18] <lifeless> Fujitsu: branch is to make a new branch
[22:19] <Fujitsu> lifeless: Right, but users might well not want to make changes.
[22:19] <lifeless> Fujitsu: IME they get confused when the *do*, because they checked out someone *elses* branch
[22:19] <Fujitsu> I guess so.
[22:19] <lifeless> Fujitsu: so I never tell new users about checkout unless they are using bzr-svn. 
[22:19] <Fujitsu> Probably a good policy.
[22:20] <lifeless> Or they are setting up a central branch for a team (and thus checkout is useful to them)
[22:20] <lifeless> What I tell new users is 'bzr branch X to get a local mirror. bzr pull to refresh it. If you want to develop there, change to using bzr merge, and use bzr push to publish.'
[22:25] <ianm1> but bzr pull doesn't seem to get updates
[22:26] <somerville32> ianm1, bzr pull <branch>
[22:27] <ianm1> ah ok thanks
[22:30] <jcastro> if I have ownership of a hosted branch on lp, will changing the owner from myself basically turn it into a team branch?
[22:30] <lifeless> yes
[22:30] <jcastro> ta
[22:30] <Flare183> How does the mentoring process work?
[22:31] <jcastro> lifeless: oh rock, it even changes the url
[22:32] <thumper> jcastro: it makes it a team branch if the new owner is a team
[22:32] <thumper> jcastro: and how are those push ups going?
[22:33] <jcastro> thumper: 85 over three days
[22:33] <jcastro> I am behind
[22:33] <ianm1> jcastro: what's the goal?
[22:33] <thumper> jcastro: my shoulder is a little sore, and I'm trying to be gentle on it
[22:33] <thumper> ianm1: 2000 in december
[22:33] <jcastro> ianm1: 2000 in one month
[22:34] <jcastro> thumper: I have these push up bars so my wrists don't get sore
[22:34] <ianm1> good goal
[22:34] <thumper> jcastro: I'm trying to get mine out of the way before Christmas
[22:37] <thumper> jcastro: as I feel that my normal champagne breakfast on christmas will not make me feel condusive to more push ups
[22:38] <jcastro> thumper: I am doing them in lieu of my normal typing breaks
[22:39] <thumper> jcastro: I don't have normal typing breaks
[22:39] <jcastro> so, if I do 10 at the end of every hour, and I work 8 hours a day, that's 80 per day
[22:39] <thumper> jcastro: sounds like a good plan
[22:39] <ianm1> a dumbbell next to the desk works great for typing/compiling breaks (curse all you high level interpreted languages!)
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #173710 in opera "opera-browser bug report tool missing from launchpad" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173710