[00:10] <fxr> luls going through the forums,,  and seen somebody use MY edgy instructions for this device to get it working on gutsy..
[00:10] <fxr> and just 21 hours ago --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3875574&postcount=28
[00:11] <fxr> i still cnt work it out : \
[00:11] <fxr> is their anything architecurally different bewteen mythbuntu and standard gutsy that could explain my sore head?
[00:12] <directhex> no
[00:12] <fxr> even with the naming conventions of linux-headers, ?
[00:19] <fxr> ahhh, is linux source different that linux headers?
[00:20] <fxr> that = than
[00:23] <directhex> fxr, linux-source is 100% different to linux-headers
[00:23] <fxr> sweet.. i reckon that might be it.. thanks..
[00:24] <fxr> i would need linux-source to build kernel modules maybe?
[00:24] <Tari> no, you should only need linux-headers
[00:26] <fxr> mmm , there is a ./Configure query where it asks for linux kernel source, i was just pointing it at the usr/src/headers directory..
[00:33] <fxr> i just want to be able to watch tv again.. everything was great until the motherboard blew up on my old mythdora box
[00:39] <CyberDoo> My system was working fine till today when I had a power spike and it restarted my system, now my remote stopped working. I've ran the LIRC troubleshooter and lirc is working properly with IRW reading every code for my remote fine. When I start up mythfrontend I don't see a LIRC connected message at all, nor does pressing any buttons work on the remote.
[00:44] <superm1_> CyberDoo, if you didn't change anything with your config,  iwould suspect hardware problems
[00:46] <directhex> superm1_, random reboots plus crap file systems can cause bollocksed config files
[00:47] <superm1_> i would think those would manifest in more visible ways then
[00:48] <directhex> you'd be surprised
[00:49] <directhex> i still have no functional getty on my myth machine, following a file system spasm
[00:53] <CyberDoo> Everything else works fine, I can use the system with a keyboard.
[01:03] <CyberDoo> Its upsetting because I had a hell of a time with getting the remote to work in the first place. I'm almost to the point of throwing out this microsoft usb remote crap and getting something else that works.
[01:06] <superm1> CyberDoo, the mceusb2?
[01:07] <superm1> it has been the best "out of box" experience i've had of remotes
[01:08] <CyberDoo> Yeah, model 1069 with the SMC reciever. It was all working fine untill the power spike.
[01:09] <superm1> CyberDoo, well try to open up mcc
[01:09] <superm1> and regenerate your lircrc and such
[01:09] <CyberDoo> Okay, I'll give it a wack.
[01:19] <CyberDoo> Doesn't mythtv give a message when it has connected to lirc?
[01:21] <superm1> um i dont think so
[01:21] <superm1> only if there is an error connecting to lirc
[01:22] <superm1> does ti give a message
[01:22] <CyberDoo> Yeah, I shut down lirc to see if it would and it did.
[01:22] <CyberDoo> Thought it gave a message when it connected though....I don't even know if mythtv is connecting to lirc....
[01:23] <CyberDoo> Run lirc to the local terminal....
[01:25] <superm1> be mindful of permissions if you do that
[01:25] <superm1> rather than the init script
[01:25] <CyberDoo> Yeah, I remember.
[01:28] <CyberDoo> Okay, well myth is connecting properly.....must be something wrong with the lircrc file right?
[01:35] <CyberDoo> There wouldn't be anything wrong with any of the latest updates to ubuntu, would there?
[01:35] <superm1> well unless the newer mythbuntu-lirc-generator broke things for you
[01:35] <superm1> i really hope it didn't
[01:36] <superm1> foxbuntu did change a few things in it, but it didn't break for anyone else afaik
[01:36] <CyberDoo> Hmmm, I did download it and ran it trying to solve my problem.
[01:36] <superm1> but the problem existed "before"
[01:36] <superm1> right?
[01:36] <CyberDoo> Yeah, it did.
[01:37] <superm1> okay then it wouldn't have done any harm to you then
[01:37] <CyberDoo> That's why I ran the updates thinking it might fix it...
[01:38] <CyberDoo> Does the generator backup any existing lircrc files?
[01:38] <superm1> Yes
[01:38] <CyberDoo> I think I found them...
[01:39] <CyberDoo> Diff says my old lircrc file and the current one are the same.
[01:40] <CyberDoo> I'll have to look at this later, I gotta get to work....thanks for all the help superm1.
[01:40] <superm1> alirhg
[01:40] <superm1> alright even
[01:40] <superm1> good luck :)
[01:42] <CyberDoo> in the lircrc file remote = has to be the same as the name parameter in the lircd.conf file, right? Just thought about it.
[01:42] <superm1> yeah
[01:42] <superm1> that is pulled from it automatically
[01:42] <CyberDoo> okay the thats okay......later.
[01:42] <superm1> when mlg parses
[01:44] <superm1> hey bdmurray i wanted to ask you about some QA related stuff when you get a minute.  Particularly if there are some automated methods for getting these apport reported bugs on things like mplayer and vlc sent upstream.  there is an awfully large number of them growing,.  I don't suspect many MOTUs will be fixing them locally in ubuntu, but  they can probably be useful to upstream.
[02:48] <Odd-rationale> Hello! Does the direct download link on the website work? All I get is a blank page.
[02:59] <tgm4883> Odd-rationale, which link?
[03:43] <wilberfan> where do i enter my netflix info--so i can see my queue, etc?  I can't find that anywhere...
[03:54] <wilberfan> Is the mythflix plugin standard in mythbuntu...or do i need to install it?
[04:02] <tgm4883> wilberfan, did you do a standard install?
[04:03] <wilberfan> god, it's a blur...  i think i did the advanced install?
[04:03] <wilberfan> but i left everything checked....
[04:05] <tgm4883> wilberfan, it seems that there is no configuration ui for mythflix.  Look here for how to do it  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythFlix_README
[04:05] <Jonathon> I have a mythtv setup up and going with twin tuner cards and I am quite happy with it. There is just one small problem left to fix and that is in the program guide.
[04:06] <Jonathon> The program guide when search (e.g. under the schedule recording) shows all channels, but on the main guide display (when starting to watch tv) it only shows some of the channel programs, the rest are unknown. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:07] <tgm4883> Jonathon, what are you using to get channel data?
[04:08] <Jonathon> Shepherd
[04:08] <Jonathon> I tried changing the region code to see if that helped, and I verified it downloaded all channels and parsed them, but it just does not show up in the main window of the guide?
[04:08] <tgm4883> strange
[04:09] <Jonathon> I thought it was between the xml file and mythtv, but I just found out I can search on keywords and match programs on the two missing channels, they just don't show on the displayed guide?!?
[04:09] <tgm4883> if you look in mythweb under channel info do these channels have a xmltvid ?
[04:09] <tgm4883> oh
[04:11] <Jonathon> where is the channel info? I assume you  mean go into the Web area (under information centre) and in there it asks me to select a group or site. There is nothing showing there to select - is this a problem?
[04:12] <tgm4883> no, this is in mythweb, which is accessible from another computer
[04:12] <tgm4883> via
[04:12] <tgm4883> http://backendip/mythweb
[04:12] <Jonathon> ahhh, okay. let me try that.
[04:12] <tgm4883> and to get to the page im asking about, it's located at
[04:13] <tgm4883> http://backendip/mythweb/settings/channels
[04:13] <Jonathon> hmmm.. what is the username and password? If I set them up I don't remember, or at least it is not accepting the ones I used :)
[04:13] <tgm4883> it would be whatever you used in MCC
[04:13] <tgm4883> I think it defaults to nothing
[04:14] <Jonathon> ok. hang on.
[04:14] <wilberfan> tgm4883: i'm getting a "file not found" when i try and run that netflix config command...
[04:15] <wilberfan> [scratching head]
[04:15] <wilberfan> i don't seem to have a /usr/local/share/mythtv folder...
[04:16] <tgm4883> wilberfan, make sure it's installed first apt-get install mythflix
[04:16] <wilberfan> it said i already had the latest version....
[04:16] <tgm4883> k
[04:16] <tgm4883> sec
[04:16] <wilberfan> do i need to be logged in as "mythtv"...?
[04:16] <tgm4883> no
[04:17] <tgm4883> it's a different installation location
[04:17] <tgm4883> but i'm seeing if anyone uses that plugin, cause I don't
[04:18] <Jonathon> hmmm... nothing seems to be working for that. Let me check configuration files.
[04:19] <wilberfan> (man, how do you search in xfce??)
[04:20] <tgm4883> wilberfan, look in /usr/share/mythtv
[04:21] <wilberfan> tgm4883: yeah, that's where it is...   let me try the script now...
[04:21] <wilberfan> :)
[04:22] <wilberfan> "status code 501"    is that good?
[04:22]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[04:22] <wilberfan> lol
[04:22] <tgm4883> where do you see that?
[04:22] <wilberfan> after i ran the script....
[04:23] <wilberfan> lemme see if my queue shows up...
[04:27] <wilberfan> hmmm...maybe i need to restart the backend...?
[04:27] <tgm4883> doubt it
[04:27] <tgm4883> this should be a frontend only program
[04:29] <wilberfan> well, i restarted the frontend...but my queue isn't showing up yet...
[04:34] <wilberfan> that status code could be enlightening...cuz nothing is showing up yet...
[04:39] <wilberfan> found something on google...  brb
[04:41] <Jonathon> tgm4883: OK. Sorted out that problem - discoverd mythweb - what a great tool! So to answer your question, yes the missing channels are configured identically to the others, just different xmltv id's of course.
[04:41] <wilberfan> status code: 200 this time  (that's the one i need!)  :d
[04:41] <wilberfan> :D
[04:41] <tgm4883> k
[04:43] <wilberfan> hmm...still not working....  gonna try a mythfilldatabase (just cuz i don't know what else to do...!)
[04:43] <wilberfan> oh, wait...there's more i need to do....
[04:45] <wilberfan> In case this ever comes up again, here's what needs to happen (apparently):  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythFlix
[04:46] <wilberfan> tgm4883: thanks for gettin' me started...  'preciate it
[04:49] <Jonathon> tgm4883: Any further suggestions on my issue at all?
[05:29] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: you around?
[05:30] <tgm4883> yea briefly, whats up
[05:30] <rhpot1991> what is your xine command for launching iso's?
[05:30] <rhpot1991> I'm getting errors on my screen that are too tiny to read, figured it might be easier to just ask you
[05:30] <tgm4883> i just found out that im getting an error too
[05:31] <rhpot1991> unfortunate
[05:31] <tgm4883> so i need to figure it out, as it now only works on some
[05:31] <tgm4883> but
[05:31] <rhpot1991> internal player crashes on the new futurama dvd menu
[05:31] <tgm4883> it does work, just not with my current command
[05:31] <rhpot1991> both dvd and iso
[05:31] <rhpot1991> I'll mess around some, gonna see if xine does any better
[05:31] <tgm4883> i found that if I vnc into the machine and load the iso into xine manually it will work
[05:58] <rhpot1991> tgm4883: xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:/%s works pretty good
[05:58] <rhpot1991> though I don't have xine setup for my remote
[05:59] <tgm4883> heh, rhpot1991 i think thats the one I have
[05:59] <tgm4883> from the mythtv site
[05:59] <rhpot1991> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configuring_Xine
[06:00] <rhpot1991> bunch more info there
[06:00] <rhpot1991> whats the problem you are having?
[06:05] <Mayber> can someone help me? i just added a new HD to my ubuntu box for mythtv but I can't figure out how to access it to partition it / format it / etc..
[06:06] <rhpot1991> sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:06] <rhpot1991> then sudo gparted
[06:06] <rhpot1991> will help you format it
[06:08] <Mayber> thanks, i'll try that.
[14:26] <fxr> hi can someone help me create an lvm?
[14:27] <fxr> from the instructions i see: "   Now we have a physical lvm partition sdb created. Now to create the lvm volume. Note: Example
[14:27] <fxr> below is for about 500 GB use the power of two to go to larger table sizes. Use 16M
[14:27] <fxr> instead of 8M for example for volumes over 1 TB.
[14:27] <fxr> "
[14:27] <fxr> i have a 250 gig hdd, should i use 4M ??
[14:30] <fxr> sudo v g c r e a t e −s 8M <volume−name> / dev / sdb1
[14:30] <fxr> should i use 4M instead?
[14:36] <fxr> please..  i dont know what it means at all  : s
[16:15] <Viaken> Any tips for getting Mythbuntu to use my PCI video card instead of the onboard one?
[16:17] <rhpot1991> I'd try to disable it in your bios as a first step
[16:17] <rhpot1991> I'd imagine X will fail on boot then
[16:18] <Viaken> It did. I removed the card to get to the installer.
[16:18] <Viaken> The BIOS is missing the option to disable it, though it's mentioned in the help.
[16:21] <alexvd> I am running into a issue with Static IP on install for primary masterbackend. I saw the bugs about the installer and yes that exists and I am aware.  However the issue I am having is that after I changed to manual configuration in ubuntu under network and then modifiied the General settings for hostname and database in mythtv-setup I just get a blank titivilus screen
[16:23] <alexvd> I can access the database fine and connect from a frontend. I just cant go back into mythtv-setup.  Once I press a key in the grey titivuls screen after it shuts down the backend it boots me out
[16:36] <alexvd> so does any have a standalone primary backend and run into the above problem
[17:17] <alexvd> I need to copy my channel change scripts to the new backend
[17:19] <alexvd> When I try to copy files from my ubuntu desktop to the shares for /var/lib I get an error that is more than likely because of permissions. I setup a new share with control panel to share the files system /
[17:19] <alexvd> I unchecked the box for "read only" however I still cant copy files
[17:19] <alexvd> How do I set it up so that I can copy files?
[17:22] <rhpot1991> launch a terminal and sudo cp /file/to/copy /file/to/place
[17:23] <alexvd> ok
[17:23] <alexvd> i just read i can gksudo nautilus too
[17:25] <rhpot1991> that should work too
[17:28] <alexvd> rhpot1991
[17:28] <alexvd> So when I try to copy from my desktop to the mythbuntu backend via ssh share it doesnt allow me
[17:29] <alexvd> i had to setup the ssh share as my username
[17:29] <alexvd> not root
[17:31] <alexvd> if I do sudo cp would it be the following sudo cp sony0.pl to /sony0.pl/192.168.11.50/usr/local/bin/
[17:33] <rhpot1991> copy it to your home dir in the other box
[17:33] <rhpot1991> then ssh in and sudo cp it to where you want it
[17:33] <alexvd> ok
[17:33] <rhpot1991> unless you are doing it often, its easier than messing with getting the perms changed
[17:36] <alexvd> not letting me copy it to the home directory on the mythbuntu server
[17:36] <rhpot1991> same user names?
[17:36] <alexvd> yes
[17:36] <rhpot1991> look up the man page of scp
[17:36] <rhpot1991> try using that
[17:36] <rhpot1991> 'man scp'
[17:37] <alexvd> pain in the butt.  On knoppmyth they had the mythtv directory shared
[17:37] <alexvd> i feel dumb
[17:37] <rhpot1991> scp /local/file user@remotehost:/remote/file
[17:37] <alexvd> whats the default password for ssh root access?
[17:38] <rhpot1991> that I have no idea about
[17:38] <rhpot1991> I *think* its randomly generated
[17:38] <alexvd> if i want to ssh root@192.168.11.50
[17:38] <alexvd> fn pain
[17:38] <rhpot1991> don't you have a user account on there?
[17:38] <alexvd> yep
[17:38] <Koffa> root has no pass per default?
[17:38] <rhpot1991> root doesn't exist on ubuntu boxes normally, you just sudo
[17:38] <Koffa> what you need is sudo
[17:38] <rhpot1991> I think
[17:39] <alexvd> yeah i know ubuntu sudo
[17:39] <alexvd> i understand the security aspect
[17:39] <rhpot1991> one less thing to get hacked
[17:39] <alexvd> i have a csa agent on my box
[17:39] <alexvd> not worried about that
[17:40] <rhpot1991> you could try to make a root account
[17:40] <rhpot1991> dunno how well it would like that
[17:40] <Koffa> there is a root account
[17:40] <alexvd> ok
[17:40] <Koffa> it just doesn't have a password
[17:40] <rhpot1991> empty by default?
[17:40] <rhpot1991> that doesn't sound right
[17:40] <Koffa> no
[17:40] <Koffa> non-existent
[17:41] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[17:41] <Koffa> PermitEmptyPasswords no
[17:41] <Koffa> there's that in sshd_config
[17:42] <Koffa> fgrep -i root /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:42] <Koffa> seems to be yes by default so setting a (good) password should suffice
[17:43] <rhpot1991> alexvd: did you try to scp to the remote home directory?
[17:47] <alexvd> sorry work getting inteh way
[17:47] <alexvd> going to try now
[17:50] <alexvd> dumb question if the file is in /home/documents what is the proper path
[17:50] <alexvd> ie /home/documents/sony0.pl
[17:50] <rhpot1991> /home/documents
[17:50] <rhpot1991> is the actual path
[17:50] <rhpot1991> errr
[17:50] <rhpot1991> /home/user/documents/
[17:50] <rhpot1991> unless documents is your user
[17:51] <alexvd> is it /home/user/documents
[17:51] <alexvd> or /home/alexvd/documents
[17:51] <rhpot1991> ya user as in your user name
[17:51] <alexvd> right
[17:52] <rhpot1991> gotta run to lunch, I'll be back in a bit
[17:55] <alexvd>  scp /home/alexvd/documents/sony0.pl alexvd@192.168.11.50:/home/alexvd/sony0.pl
[17:55] <alexvd> alexvd@192.168.11.50's password:
[17:55] <alexvd> /home/alexvd/documents/sony0.pl: No such file or directory
[17:55] <alexvd> k
[17:55] <alexvd> i will bang away
[18:16] <rhpot1991> thats saying that /home/alexvd/documents/sony0.pl doesn't exist locally
[18:16] <rhpot1991> are you sure it does, also make sure you are running that on the right machine
[18:25] <alexvd> moved the files to alexvd hoome
[18:25] <alexvd> and it worked
[18:25] <alexvd> now copying
[19:04] <camelreef> hi all
[19:05] <camelreef> I have a question about MythDVD ripping
[19:05] <camelreef> I have the DVD (that I can normally play) in the drive
[19:06] <camelreef> when I select "Import DVD", I end up with a message that I sould try hitting a number and that if nothing happens, something is seriously wrong
[19:07] <camelreef> what did I miss?
[19:10] <rhpot1991> check the ripping settings
[19:10] <camelreef> k
[19:10] <rhpot1991> it needs a temp directory to rip to
[19:10] <rhpot1991> gotta make sure it has access to that
[19:11] <rhpot1991> setup > setup > media > dvd > rip
[19:11] <rhpot1991> directory to hold temporary files
[19:11] <camelreef> I'm there
[19:12] <rhpot1991> I spent most of last night trying to get mythdvd to rip a video from an iso, didn't have any luck
[19:13] <rhpot1991> I was able to mount the iso to /media/cdrom0 and have it play from there, but the ripper for some reason ignored that I had faked a dvd in the drive
[19:13] <camelreef>  sudo chmod -R g+w mythdvd/
[19:14] <camelreef> and still, same screen
[19:14] <camelreef> ah, no, my bad
[19:14] <camelreef> thanks for the tip !
[19:14] <rhpot1991> good now?
[19:14] <camelreef> good now
[19:14] <rhpot1991> you need to hit the number to have it create a file the first time
[19:14] <rhpot1991> shouldn't ask you anymore after that, unless something is broken
[19:15] <alexvd> rhpot how do you run gparted again?
[19:16] <rhpot1991> sudo gparted
[19:16] <rhpot1991> unless you don't have it installed, then do: sudo apt-get install gparted
[19:17] <camelreef> rhpot1991, thanks much, ripping now :
[19:17] <rhpot1991> camelreef: are you ripping to iso, or video?
[19:18] <camelreef> to video
[19:18] <camelreef> Good, with AC-3 soundtrack
[19:18] <camelreef> backups of the kids' DVDs
[19:18] <rhpot1991> should be pretty smooth sailing
[19:20] <camelreef> rhpot1991, should be, thanks again
[19:20] <rhpot1991> sure, no problem
[19:29] <Viaken> If I'm hooking up to a set-top box that'll be sending its signal on channel 4, should I change my channel frequency table or leave it us-bcast?
[19:34] <fxr> why would i have a black and white osd and playback brakups after enabling VIA Xmvc? i have enab;ed propriortory nvidia drivers on my fx5200 card
[19:37] <camelreef> rhpot1991, one more question. Is the ripping process backgroundable ?
[19:37] <camelreef> or am I stuck with the progress bars until done
[19:38] <camelreef> can I go back to watching TV or other stuff while ripping ?
[19:51] <alexvd> fxr it used to be that enabling xvmc gave a b&w osd
[19:52] <alexvd> thier was an experimental fx
[19:52] <alexvd> FXR search gossammer threads I am not sure if that was in fixes or not.
[19:53] <fxr> its good to get xvmc enabled right?
[19:53] <alexvd> fxr well if you have a low powered frontend then yes,
[19:54] <alexvd> I thought via had hardware mpeg2 assistance
[19:54] <alexvd> wait if you are using nvidia 5200 you should use the via xvmc
[19:54] <alexvd> should be just xvmc
[19:55] <alexvd> How powerful is your processor
[19:55] <fxr> its a xp athlon 2600 , 1913ghz
[19:55] <alexvd> Are you watching HD
[19:55] <fxr> nopw
[19:55] <alexvd> You dont need it just run bob
[19:56] <Viaken> bob?
[19:56] <alexvd> Bob deinterlacing
[19:56] <alexvd> bob 2x
[19:56] <alexvd> that should give you smooth results
[19:57] <fxr> ok thanks, ll look at that, its just m having some playback issues.. ve think ve tried every option in the playback settings.. ll try that anyway..
[19:58] <alexvd> several things to check, you should experiment with opengl sync turned off
[19:58] <alexvd> and then also check nvida settings
[19:58] <alexvd> goto gossammer threads
[19:59] <alexvd> more than likely its those combination
[20:00] <fxr> ok.. thanls yeah ll keep digging.. it worked perfectly on my mythdora box, before my motherboard failure , so m sure its just some combination i am missing..
[20:00] <alexvd> search the mailing list on gossamer threads
[20:00] <alexvd> you have to go into nvidia-settings
[20:00] <alexvd> and turn off the opengl
[20:00] <alexvd> and then enable in the playback settings
[20:01] <alexvd> you have to try different combinations
[20:01] <alexvd> also run top
[20:01] <alexvd> it will tell you how much cpu your using and then if thats pegged you may have to do some other nvida options
[20:03] <fxr> aye my cpu is getting maxed out 97 per cent..
[20:05] <alexvd> ok
[20:05] <alexvd> So you need to run the proper nvidia driver
[20:05] <sxealex> anyone have glx probs with that nvidia driver
[20:06] <alexvd> and then put in an option call "use events" =true
[20:06] <sxealex> i get a crappy frame rate
[20:06] <alexvd> i think that is it
[20:06] <fxr> will i install that driver from source of something? not from propietary device manager?
[20:06] <alexvd> however goto the gossammer threads users list on the web and do a search
[20:07] <alexvd> i just learned mythbuntu
[20:07] <alexvd> but check the version that is running now
[20:07] <alexvd> it should support it
[20:07] <alexvd> watching SD you max out the processor at 97 percent
[20:08] <alexvd> something isnt right.  First check nvida-settings and uncheck the two boxes for (i think) vertical sync and then opengl sync
[20:08] <alexvd> i am not ubuntu expert
[20:08] <alexvd> but you can also install the nvidia driver manually
[20:10] <rhpot1991> camelreef: I think mine works pretty well with a rip going, in the rip settings there is an option for 'nice level' you can try increasing that if you are having a problem
[20:12] <camelreef> rhpot1991, so I can escape the screen and watch TV, then
[20:12] <fxr> ok thanks alexd , thats something to work with..
[20:12] <camelreef> I'm not afraid of the CPU usgae, big Core 2 Duo there
[20:12] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure if you escape, it might stop it
[20:12] <rhpot1991> gonna have to try it and see what happens
[20:13] <rhpot1991> I just started ripping so I haven't had it overlapping with other things much
[20:13] <camelreef> and it is on nice 19
[20:14] <rhpot1991> I think the higher nice goes the less it hogs resources
[20:14] <camelreef> which is a good thing, transcode is at 100% of one core, and tcdecode between 10 and 20% on the other
[20:14] <camelreef> yup nice setting is OK, I should be able to do other stuff
[20:14] <camelreef> so I can escape the progress bar screen without stoping the transcode
[20:14] <rhpot1991> I also do ISO rips, so that only takes like 20-30 mins on my box
[20:15] <rhpot1991> where an xvid rip takes considerably longer
[20:15] <Viaken> rhpot1991: Correct. The lower the nice level, the more stubborn the process is about giving up resources.
[20:15] <alexvd> woah why wo why do I still have stupid issues with UDEV
[20:16] <alexvd> is thier an easy way to pin cards in ubuntu, part of the reason i wanted to move to ubuntu was so i wouldnt have this issue anymore
[20:17] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure what you are asking
[20:17] <camelreef> I escaped, the transcode processes are still there
[20:17] <rhpot1991> nice
[20:18] <camelreef> let's hog it with VC-1 decoding and see if the nice setting is working, hehe
[20:18] <rhpot1991> I think it makes sense that it would still run, cause it checks that file in the temp dir to see if another transcode is currently running
[20:18] <rhpot1991> anyone have a hdhomerun?
[20:19] <camelreef> rhpot1991, its nicely making way on one core for the HD decoding, while transcoding on the other core
[20:19] <camelreef> :o)
[20:19] <camelreef> and my fans spun up :o(
[20:20] <camelreef> but I'm not complaining, doing their jobs
[20:20] <camelreef> now on going back to the transcode progress screen
[20:20] <rhpot1991> nice
[20:20] <rhpot1991> I run on a lowly amd 1900+
[20:21]  * rhpot1991 recycles parts for his mythboxes
[20:21] <camelreef> ok, I just need to go back to the Import DVD screen
[20:21] <camelreef> I got the CPU for free, a gift
[20:21] <rhpot1991> it should tell you that another transcode is in process
[20:21] <camelreef> so I made a Myth box around it :o)
[20:22] <camelreef> yup, it's showing me the progress bars once back to Import DVD
[20:22] <rhpot1991> I had my main mythbox as a linux box for a while, bought a tuner for it one day and it became a mythbox
[20:22] <camelreef> http://www.youplala.net/linux/home-theater-pc
[20:22] <rhpot1991> my 2nd backend is my parent's old computer
[20:23] <rhpot1991> nice setup
[20:23] <camelreef> 2mn to go, 1h hour total for a 1:44 movie in Good quality, keeping the AC-3 track
[20:23] <camelreef> rhpot1991, thanks
[20:23] <rhpot1991> I'm still running SD and all too
[20:24] <rhpot1991> how do you like the harmony remote?
[20:24] <camelreef> I love i
[20:24] <camelreef> t
[20:24] <camelreef> it
[20:24] <camelreef> bet thing I ever bought
[20:24] <rhpot1991> worth the money?
[20:24] <rhpot1991> I keep looking at them, but I can never justify spending that much for something that I already have working
[20:24] <camelreef> makes less sense now that i have less equipment, but still wonderful
[20:25] <camelreef> mine was a good deal at Costco
[20:25] <camelreef> the programming part is even better with Mythtv, as sometimes you end up with weird function on weird keys on the original remote
[20:26] <rhpot1991> I look at them whenever buy.com (or other places) have them cheap
[20:26] <camelreef> with the Harmony you can have the weird stuff onthe LCD screen with a proper name
[20:26] <rhpot1991> never end up doing it though
[20:26] <camelreef> another example
[20:26] <rhpot1991> I end up tossing money at hard drives instead
[20:26] <rhpot1991> Total Space: 848,081 MB
[20:27] <rhpot1991> doesn't include the 1TB mybook that I got on BF
[20:27] <camelreef> I do not want the remote to turn the myth box off, but I could tell it that I want it to go to my home screen instead, killing LiveTV or whatever I was watching when I turn the rest off, or taking the system out of the screen saver when I come back
[20:28] <rhpot1991> nice
[20:29] <camelreef> yes :o)
[20:29] <rhpot1991> I think my next step will be another tuner
[20:29] <rhpot1991> just had my first unresolvable scheduling conflict the other night
[20:29] <camelreef> my next stp is replacing my 2 crappy 200 GB disks with a green 1 TB
[20:30] <camelreef> and adding DVB-S
[20:30] <camelreef> dual DVB-T is enough for my usage
[20:32] <camelreef> and when the prices are a bit better, a combo BD/HD-DVD drive
[20:32] <camelreef> anyway, thanks again rhpot1991
[20:33] <rhpot1991> no problem
[20:38] <Viaken> I just had it freeze when I went into music settings...
[20:38] <Viaken> oh duh...the backend isn't running.
[20:39] <alexvd> Ok so I need to fix this once and for all.  When you have alot of capture cards udev decides where to stick them so you could be at dev/video0 or /dev/video1.  I have 5 pci cards in the backend 2 pvr 250 and 3 pchdtv.  When I reboot the box stupid UDEC changes the /dev/video.  How do I pin the assignments or keep udev from changing this all the time.
[20:42] <alexvd> It only happens on the pvr-250
[20:42] <rhpot1991> sorry alexvd I don't have a clue
[20:43] <alexvd> stupid friggin udev.  this guy bruce on knoppmyth and I know onthe gossammer threads list they discuss it but it involves writing rules
[20:43] <alexvd> pain in the fn a
[20:43] <rhpot1991> I'd try asking on ubuntuforums.org
[20:43] <alexvd> yeah
[20:44] <alexvd> probably my old motherboard. its ancient i know but the backend doesnt do anything except record
[20:44] <rhpot1991> have you checked bios updates?
[20:44] <rhpot1991> I'd think it should lock in the same devices each time
[20:44] <alexvd> I wish the board is from 2000
[20:45] <alexvd> no check that like 1194
[20:45] <alexvd> 1994
[20:45] <rhpot1991> ouch
[20:45] <alexvd> hard to find motherboards with 5 pci slots
[20:45] <rhpot1991> might be worth your time to just get a cheap board cpu combo from newegg
[20:46] <rhpot1991> ya, most of the cheap ones are mini boards now
[20:46] <rhpot1991> normally 2 or 3 slots max
[20:46] <alexvd> yeah money is not the issue.  i am going to upgrade the hd frontend and make that the masterbackend
[20:46] <alexvd> still that only has 3 pci slots
[20:46] <alexvd> 2pcix
[20:46] <rhpot1991> you know you can have multiple backends right?
[20:46] <alexvd> 1pcx
[20:46] <alexvd> of course
[20:46] <alexvd>  i have two right now
[20:46] <alexvd> more power though
[20:47] <alexvd> its a waste
[20:47] <rhpot1991> kinda, but you can move your tuners to others then
[20:47] <rhpot1991> you can have them wake when they need to record
[20:47] <alexvd> yeah thought about that too
[20:47] <rhpot1991> I have a tuner in 2 backends now
[20:47] <alexvd> thats risky
[20:47] <alexvd> look at all the post on not getting that too work
[20:47] <rhpot1991> each one is also a frontend
[20:47] <rhpot1991> in 2 different rooms
[20:48] <alexvd> yeah i have one central box for storage and recording another box for hd frontend and backend for transcoding and commecial flagging
[20:48] <alexvd> the hd box also has a tuner in it.  I plan to add a couple more
[20:48] <alexvd> So i would have 8 tuners
[20:49] <alexvd> I have 6 now
[20:49] <rhpot1991> you really need that many tuners?
[20:49] <alexvd> well people still like to watch livetv
[20:49] <alexvd> each person fires up a livetv session that eats a tuner
[20:49] <rhpot1991> I don't watch live tv on mine currently
[20:49] <alexvd> yeah I do
[20:50] <alexvd> especially for sports and news and debates etcc
[20:50] <rhpot1991> I normally record everything I care about
[20:50] <alexvd> you dont watch sport
[20:50] <alexvd> right
[20:50] <rhpot1991> so if I am missing something I just hop in and watch the recording that is in process
[20:50] <rhpot1991> I watch sports, always live though
[20:50] <alexvd> yeah i know the drill
[20:50] <alexvd> yeah
[20:50] <rhpot1991> have a bad habit of peeking at the score if I record it
[20:50] <alexvd> so if you want to watch devils on one tv and nets another
[20:51] <alexvd> u need two tuners and then two shows you wanted to watch that is 4 tuners
[20:51] <alexvd> so they add up quick right
[20:51] <rhpot1991> ya
[20:51] <rhpot1991> I'd throw a tuner on each frontend
[20:51] <rhpot1991> for the live tv
[20:51] <rhpot1991> then have your master backend do all the recording
[20:51] <rhpot1991> also that way you don't have random network usage when you don't need it
[20:52] <rhpot1991> keep the live tv on the HD of the frontend and all
[20:56] <alexvd> i could do that
[20:56] <alexvd> but then i have to have tuners connected to dtv boxes everywhere
[20:57] <rhpot1991> ya that could hurt
[20:57] <alexvd> I may get some mac mini for the LCD panels
[20:57] <rhpot1991> so you have 6 dtv boxes?
[20:57] <alexvd> 4 right now
[20:57] <alexvd> 3 ota tuners
[20:58] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[20:58] <alexvd> 3 DTV in operation
[20:58] <alexvd> 1 backup
[20:58] <rhpot1991> do the dishes still have a 2 head limit?
[20:58] <alexvd> i have a multiswitch
[20:58] <rhpot1991> what is that?
[20:59] <alexvd> allows you to connect multiple boxes to a 3lnb
[20:59] <alexvd> so i think i can have 8 off the one multiswitch
[21:00] <rhpot1991> ah
[21:00] <rhpot1991> I haven't messed with dtv in years
[21:00] <rhpot1991> since they changed the cards to p4's
[21:01] <alexvd> oh you mean the non hu cards
[21:01] <alexvd> so you couldnt reprogram them
[21:02] <rhpot1991> I think the version before p4's were hu cards
[21:02] <rhpot1991> its been quite a time though
[21:02] <rhpot1991> that was something like 3 or 4 years ago
[21:02] <alexvd> not worth messing with that and losing the ability to have directv because they ban you
[21:03] <alexvd> the encryption now is very hard to break
[21:03] <rhpot1991> or sue you for owning legitimate hardware with other uses
[21:03] <rhpot1991> I never liked how they were able to bully people like that without anyone caring
[21:05] <rhpot1991> I also maintain my stance that I should be able to do whatever I want with any beams they are shooting at my face without my permission
[21:12] <alexvd> right
[21:13] <alexvd> so I have a gparted question.  I had to reinstall a few times because of some of the bugs. I have a small 9gig disc that is seen as 8.54
[21:13] <rhpot1991> go on
[21:14] <alexvd> right now I have /dev/sda1 5.94 gig and /dev/sda3 2.04 gig
[21:14] <alexvd> how do figure out which is the partition that is the correct one that I am using right now and then resize the partition to
[21:14] <rhpot1991> correct one you are using, as in which one is your root system?
[21:15] <alexvd> Right I think I have two mythbuntu installs
[21:15] <alexvd> one I am using and one is residual from a botched install
[21:15] <alexvd> so I have the following right now
[21:15] <alexvd> /dev/sda1 ext 3 5.94
[21:15] <rhpot1991> if you right click on a partition, and choose information
[21:16] <rhpot1991> it should say 'status mounted on %some sort of path%'
[21:16] <rhpot1991> look for the one that is 'Mounted on /'
[21:16] <rhpot1991> thats should be your OS
[21:16] <alexvd> ok
[21:16] <alexvd> great
[21:16] <alexvd> that worked so the original 5.94
[21:16] <alexvd> is unmounted
[21:17] <alexvd> i also have linux-swap
[21:17] <alexvd> that is not active
[21:17] <alexvd> do i delete those partitions
[21:17] <rhpot1991> is there another swap?
[21:17] <alexvd> yes
[21:17] <rhpot1991> you should have (at least) a root partition (prob ext3 or xfs) and a swap partition
[21:18] <alexvd> i have ext
[21:18] <alexvd> extended
[21:18] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure the base partitions for mythbuntu (which you are running right?)
[21:18] <alexvd> and linux swap
[21:18] <alexvd> right mythbuntu
[21:18] <alexvd> I want to resize the partition so it uses the full drive
[21:19] <alexvd> so can i delete the partitions that are unused and not active
[21:19] <rhpot1991> you can prob delete your botched install and the extra swap
[21:19] <alexvd> ok
[21:19] <rhpot1991> then you need a live cd to boot and resize your root partition
[21:19] <alexvd> so I delete from gparted and then do what
[21:19] <alexvd> tell it to resize
[21:19] <alexvd> ok so put the livecd backin
[21:20] <alexvd> and then run gparted
[21:20] <alexvd> and resize the partition?
[21:20] <rhpot1991> you need to do edit apply after the delete
[21:20] <rhpot1991> you can just delete on the live cd
[21:20] <rhpot1991> but make sure you delete the right one
[21:20] <rhpot1991> then you can resize your root to take up everything
[21:20] <alexvd> ok
[21:20] <alexvd> so should i delete now
[21:20] <alexvd> and then reboot and runthe livecd
[21:20] <rhpot1991> as long as you are sure its not needed
[21:20] <alexvd> or just boot the livecd and do it all
[21:21] <rhpot1991> I can't vouge for what should be there cause run ubuntu with mythtv installed on top of it
[21:21] <rhpot1991> either way will work
[21:21] <alexvd> ok
[21:21] <alexvd> btw what is extended?
[21:22] <rhpot1991> you can only have so many partitions on a drive
[21:22] <rhpot1991> so you use an extended partition to have other partitions within
[21:22] <alexvd> ok
[21:23] <rhpot1991> or thats my understand at least
[21:23] <alexvd> so when i run the livecd
[21:23] <alexvd> can i get rid of that too?
[21:23] <rhpot1991> my swap is in extended
[21:23] <rhpot1991> but my root isn't
[21:23] <rhpot1991> so I have root, taking up everything but 2 gigs
[21:23] <rhpot1991> then an extended with swap inside of it
[21:23] <alexvd> btw it says i cant delete dev sda5 linux-swap because it says its higher than 5
[21:23] <rhpot1991> taking up the rest
[21:23] <alexvd> ok
[21:28] <rhpot1991> it looks like mythbuntu uses a xfs partition for /var/lib or /var/lib/mythtv
[21:28] <rhpot1991> for the recordings
[21:29] <rhpot1991> I would recommend doing that
[21:30] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, thats not default
[21:30] <tgm4883_laptop> but i would recommend doing that too
[21:31] <rhpot1991> tgm4883_laptop: is there a reason its not default?
[21:31] <tgm4883_laptop> only because time was short on development and we hadn't gotten the partition recipes down yet
[21:32] <tgm4883_laptop> should be default on hardy
[21:32] <rhpot1991> ah ok
[21:33] <rhpot1991> I need to actually install mythbuntu on something, so I can know when I'm telling people things they can't do
[21:33] <tgm4883_laptop> well you can do it, it's just not default
[21:33] <tgm4883_laptop> you have to manually partition
[21:33] <rhpot1991> ya
[21:33] <tgm4883_laptop> which isn't difficult
[21:34] <rhpot1991> can he launch gparted from the mythbuntu cd?
[21:35] <tgm4883_laptop> i believe so, but you should be able to manually partition using in the installer
[21:35] <tgm4883_laptop> no need for gparted
[21:35] <rhpot1991> he is trying to adjust a working install
[21:35] <rhpot1991> has some random extra partitions from a botched install that he wants to adjust and resize root
[21:36] <sxealex> what is the keystroke to log out of a mythtv session if it freezes up
[21:37] <sxealex> same as any session but i forget it
[21:37] <rhpot1991> alexvd: if you want that extra room for recordings and think your root is large enough, I would just delete the other partitions and make a new xfs partition to hold the recordings, doesn't require you to use the live cd then
[21:37] <rhpot1991> sxealex: ctrl+alt+backspace?
[21:37] <sxealex> id assume that would just restart
[21:38] <sxealex> not log out
[21:38] <sxealex> right?
[21:38] <rhpot1991> that restarts X
[21:38] <sxealex> not doing it
[21:39] <sxealex> i can get to cli
[21:39] <sxealex> but i was hoping to doa  keystroke
[21:40] <rhpot1991> I don't know the keystroke for forcequit
[21:40] <sxealex> ill try to find it on forums and report back
[21:40] <sxealex> hehe
[21:40] <rhpot1991> you can just kill the mythfrontend process
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> rhpot1991, are you trying to restart x?
[21:41] <tgm4883_laptop> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:41] <ame> So, anyone got a good suggestion for an External Soundcard, that has a working SPDIF output? the SB Audigy2 NX doesnt seem to work according to Alsa :(
[21:42] <sxealex> yea
[21:42] <sxealex> ctrl backspace worked it just hung
[21:42] <sxealex> odd stuff
[21:43] <sxealex> no this was me asking the question not him
[21:43] <sxealex> but thanks
[21:44] <alexvd> Rhpot in the long run as in once everything is working right.  I will enable storage groups so this disc wont be used for recordings
[21:45] <alexvd> so should I bother resizing for xfs
[21:45] <alexvd> it would be only for the database
[21:45] <rhpot1991> nah, just expand your root then
[21:45] <alexvd> right
[21:45] <alexvd> thats what i figured.  I just want to leave 5or6 gig
[21:45] <alexvd> for logs and database
[23:01] <williammanda> hey guys
[23:01] <williammanda> anyone recommend a rf remote to use with mythtv?
[23:32] <sxealex> can anyone help me with my database problem
[23:32] <sxealex> ive tried everything in the docs
[23:32] <sxealex> i can't log into mysql
[23:33] <sxealex> anyone present?
[23:33] <sxealex> been playing with this for like 3 hours now
[23:34] <sxealex> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[23:43] <williammanda> go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[23:44] <williammanda> there is a section for your problem