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kgoetzhi all. how can i check if sasl is using the correct backend? postfix calls sasl, and sasl tries to look up its /etc/sasldb2 file. saslauthd is configured to connect to ldap, and isnt getting called at all by postfix :\01:06
kgoetzthe othe rthing is that the file does exist01:07
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Zylstra555About how many users can a server with a 366MMHz Processor and about 80MB free space handle? (Ubuntu server)06:47
Zylstra555(doing your basic PHP forum and HTTP pages)06:47
macdyou can always use things like seige and php-benchmark to test that06:51
macdalso httperf, autobench are apache tools06:51
macdso to test your php enabled pages/site just disable the login and let one of them test a page that uses php06:52
Zylstra555Interesting06:52
krautmoin07:51
XiXaQmoin :)08:32
XiXaQI'm looking forward to trying JeOS.08:32
vetrintp server means ?09:01
vetrihow can i configure....09:02
vetriwhat is the use of ntp server09:02
Kamping_Kaiserits a time server09:03
Kamping_Kaiseras per its package description09:03
sergevnyou can synchronise with an time server on the internet.09:22
sergevnlocalmachine => time.microsoft.com for example09:22
sergevn;)09:23
PanzerMKZ_oh shame on you09:25
PanzerMKZ_atleast not post addy of m$ ntp server09:26
vetrii installed ntp server09:27
vetrihow can check whether its working or not09:27
PanzerMKZ_have you synced with a ntp server?09:27
Kamping_Kaiserntpq -p09:27
Kamping_Kaiseror syslog09:27
sergevnPanzerMKZ_: was a joke :)09:35
PanzerMKZ_i know09:36
sergevnvetri: is most of the cases your ISP has an ntpserver09:36
vetrisergevn,thanks09:39
vetrihow can i check10:16
sorenivoks: Hey.11:48
sorenivoks: I've been thinking.. I don't see any harm in having dovecot always put its auth socket (by bind mounting) inside postfix' chroot.11:49
soren..so we "just" need postfix to use it if it's available.11:50
ivokswhat if someone has dovecot and exim?11:52
sorenThe are a few paths to this.. a) Postfix gets installed, and dovecot is already installed => postfix should get configured to use dovecot for SASL auth.. b) dovecot gets installed while postfix is already installed => postfix should be configured to use dovecot for SASL auth.. c) as a result of either a) or b), postfix has been configured to use dovcecot for SASL auth, but the admin doesn't want that. He should have an option to stop postfix from 11:52
sorenivoks: Screw them.11:53
sorenivoks: :)11:53
ivokshaha11:53
ivoksi agree, but we do have exim in main11:53
ivoksso, we support it11:53
sorenexim and postfix conflict.11:54
soren...so they won't be installed at the same time anyway.11:54
ivoksthat's not the problem11:54
ivoksproblem is that you have dovecot, which by defaults looks at /var/spool/postfix/11:54
sorenEr?11:54
sorenWhy would dovecot look in postfix's spool?11:55
ivoksfor dovecot-postfix-sasl, you have to tell dovecot where to put it's auth socket11:55
sorenOh, right.11:55
sorenYes, that's why I want it to be bind mounted.11:55
ivoksand, since postfix is chrooted, only solution is /var/spool/postifx11:55
ivoksyes, binding is an option11:55
soren...so that its real socket stays in /var/run/dovecot, where it belongs.11:55
ivoksatm, dovecot-auth can't listen on tcp port11:55
sorenThere's a reason for that, I guess. There's no way to limit access to it that way.11:56
sorenWell... Yes, with iptables and such, but then it gets hairy.11:56
ivoksi'm ok with binding during postfix start()11:57
ivoksif [ -e /var/run/dovecot/auth-socket ]; mount bind; fi11:57
ivoks+ making sure dovecot start before postfix11:58
sorenRight.11:58
soren...and while its doing the bind mount, it can check if e.g. /etc/postfix/dovecot_sasl_configured.stamp exists, and if not, do the configuration and create that file. If the admin decides to revert that change, it won't get reinstated.12:00
sorenOn upgrades, we can just touch that file so that we won't fudge existing configurations.12:00
soren...and put a note in the release notes that removing that file will set up this cool new configuration.12:01
ivokshm...?12:01
sorenIt's quite common for us to provide fancy new features that don't get enabled on upgrades as there's often no proper, safe way to do so.12:01
soren..and by doing it this way, we don't need an extra package and we don't depend on stuff being installed in the right order.12:02
ivokswell, postconf should be more than great:)12:02
ivokswith postconf we can check existing configuration12:02
sorenTrue.12:03
ivokswell... hmm....12:03
sorenit's just a fairily intrusive change on a running system.12:03
ivoksit is12:03
ivokswe can't tell with postconf :(12:03
sorens/fairily/fairly/12:03
sorenExactly.12:03
sorenThe common way to do this is to add it to the release notes.12:04
sorenLet me rephrase: If we can get this to work on fresh installs (not just completely new ubuntu installs, but also just for people who haven't had these packages installed before), I'll be happy. If we can make it work on upgrades as well, that's even better, but not a requirement in any way, IMO.12:05
ivokswe can do both12:08
ivokswhit is what postconf returns on non-sasl-enabled systems:12:08
ivokssmtp_sasl_auth_enable = no12:08
ivoksso, if it's no, enable it and set if up; if yes, move along and don't touch anything12:08
sorenMaybe the admin doesn't want sasl?12:08
ivokstrue...12:09
ivoksi can't think of one that don't want that... but ok :)12:09
sorenI can't think of anyone who'd like to use Windows, but nevertheless..12:10
ivoks:)12:11
ivoksso, you would like to disable it by default on new installs12:14
sorenNo.12:14
sorenNot at all.12:14
ivokson upgrades then12:14
sorenUpgrades of postfix probably shouldn't enable this feature, right.12:15
sorenTalk to lamont about that bit, though.12:15
ivoksdoes postinst knows the difference between install and upgrade?12:15
ivoksright, as a motu, i should know that :D12:16
sorenSure.12:16
soren$1 = install, $2 = previous version12:17
ivoksok12:17
soren[ -z "$2" ] || echo this is a new install12:17
ivoksthen i can do that12:17
ivoksthen postfix start() should check if dovecot is set as sasl engine12:18
ivoksand do binding12:18
ivoksbut, people will hate us if we do that in start() and they change dovecot's config12:18
sorenivoks: Why?12:19
sorenivoks: What's the use case?12:19
ivokshunderds of howtos on dovecot+postfix sasl12:20
ivoksthey all say change dovecot's config12:20
ivoksand postfix's12:20
sorenI refuse to keep from making things smarter because there are howto's somewhere on the internet that explain how to do things the hard way.12:21
ivoksi know couple of admins that would break exsisting setup and then do it their way12:21
sorenThat's fine.12:22
soren?12:22
ivoksthey would be surprised to find out that their socket isn't there, despite dovecot's config12:23
ivoksok.. i think i know how to do it12:23
ivoksin dovecot, we leave path as /var/run/dovecot/sasl/auth12:23
ivoksand then bind /var/run/dovecot/sasl as /var/spool/postfix/dovecot-sasl12:24
sorenPrecisely.12:24
ivoksthis is self explanatory12:24
ivoksand everybody would figure it out12:24
sorenIt's dovecot's sasl socket. a) It's dovecot's socket. It belongs there. b) Other services might look there for it.12:25
ivoksso, even if they change config of dovecot12:25
ivoksthere would still be /var/run/dovecot/sasl, and it could be mount-binded to postfix chroot dir12:25
sorenUm.. That looked wrong. You know what I meant. :)12:25
ivoksyeah... ok, i think we have a solution :)12:26
sorenHm... dovecot -p might be a better choice than checking for the socket.12:26
sorenOr using dovecot -p to find the right path.12:26
ivoksi have to start vmware to figure out what dovecot -p does12:27
ivoks:)12:27
ivoksi don't have it on any of my gutsy machines12:28
sorenIt corresponds to postconf (no options)12:28
sorenIt dumps the config.12:29
sorenEr... dovecot -a12:29
* soren can't read.12:29
ivoksuh...12:29
ivokshard to parse...12:29
sorenYeah, a bit.12:30
sorenbrb12:31
ivoksi'm open for better than:12:32
ivoksdovecot -a | grep -A9999 auth | grep -A9999 socket | grep path12:32
ivoks:)12:32
ivoksok ^auth :)12:32
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sorensudo dovecot -a | sed -n -e '/^auth default/,/^[a-zA-Z0-9]/ p' | sed -n -e '/^  socket:/,/^  [a-zA-Z0-9]/ p' | sed -n -e '/^    client:/,/^    [a-zA-Z0-9]/ p' | grep path | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\  -f212:41
sorenBooyah!12:41
sorenIt can sure do with a clean up, but it works.12:41
ivoksheh, this returns nothing for me :)12:50
ivokserror is ^client12:50
ivoksshould be client12:50
sorenIt doesn't say ^client anywhere?12:51
ivoksright, bad pasting12:51
sorenIt says '/^    client/'12:51
ivoksbut we shouldn't count whitespaces12:51
sorenThere. Done. I'll pastebin..12:55
sorenhttp://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/46677/12:56
ivokslol, nice13:00
ivokshm... anyone did installation of vmware-server in gutsy?13:02
sorenivoks: I belive I did.13:05
sorenivoks: why?13:05
ivoksi just installed it and it reports that newer version is available13:05
ivoksand when i upgrade, it installs the same version13:05
sorenKnown issue.13:06
ivoksand again reports that newer version is available :)13:06
soreniz soyuz bug13:06
ivoksoh... ok then13:06
ScottKivoks: You know that the openssl that vmware-server uses has an unpatched remote code execution exploit open against it, right?13:09
ivoksScottK: that vmware isn't available to the outside world13:10
ScottKivoks: OK.  Just making sure.  Canonical uploaded it to partners with that known vulnerability, so I thought I'd mention it.13:11
* ScottK is particularly burned because he expended a lot of effort to get openssl097 removed before the Gutsy release.13:11
ScottKVery disappointing to see it reappear.13:12
ivoksam i wrong, or this is canonical-only problem?13:18
ivoksopenssl0.9.7 is in partner, right?13:19
sorenYes.13:19
ScottKivoks: Well if you look on the LP page for Ubuntu, it lists partner and partner is in Ubuntu's default sources.list, so while only Canonical can fix it, I think it is an Ubuntu problem.13:19
ScottKIf Canonical wants to distribute security deficient code, I really wish they would do so in a way that is clearly distinct from Ubuntu.  Partner is much less distinct than Commerical used to be.13:21
ivoksScottK: partner isn't enabled by default13:21
sorenPartner is enabled by default?13:21
ScottKNo, but it's listed.13:21
ivoksmozilla plugins are in firefox bookmarks too, but you can't say that bug in plugin is a bug in ubuntu13:21
ScottKivoks: Mozilla plugins aren't listed on the main LP page for Ubuntu either.13:23
ScottKivoks: Look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu and tell me partner doesn't look like part of Ubuntu?13:25
ivoksit does, that's true13:25
ivoksand should be changed13:25
ScottKThere's a bug against LP on that.13:26
ivoksbut that doesn't change the fact that there's no libssl0.9.7 in ubuntu13:26
ivoksthere's a bug in LP, yes13:26
ivoksbut not in ubuntu13:26
ScottKActually the bug in LP on openssl097 for Gutsy for this issue describes it as in Ubuntu.13:27
ScottKWe may feel it's separate, but it's really not managed that way.13:27
ivokstake care, see you tomorrow13:48
sorenivoks: Likewise!13:48
* ivoks hugs you like this http://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images///gallery/Dec2007//86528.jpg13:49
* soren chuckles13:49
* soren wonders which one he's supposed to be13:50
dendrobatesclifter1: welcome13:54
sorenclifter1: Jason?13:56
clifter1dendrobates: Thanks!13:56
dendrobatessoren: yep.13:56
sorenclifter1: Ah, welcome!13:56
sorenNow, please fix all my bugs. kthxbye.13:57
clifter1soren: Thank you!  is that the task for today ? ;)13:58
dendrobatessoren: could you go over setting up a development environment and basic packaging?14:00
dendrobatessoren: with jason.14:00
sorenUm..14:02
* soren ponders where to start14:02
sorenclifter1: You could start by registering your nick, so that we can /msg each other.14:03
soren!register14:03
ubotuBy default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration14:03
clifter1soren: Thx.  Going through it now.14:04
ScottKsoren: If you're going to do a basic packaging overview, you might want to do it in #ubuntu-motu so that people who are learning there would benifit and the other MOTUs there could help out.14:07
sorenScottK: That's the plan :)14:08
clifter1register14:09
clifter1register Glamdring514:09
sorenHeh..14:09
sorenBetter come up with a new password, and then: /msg nickserv register yournewpassword14:10
clifter1hide email on14:10
clifter1set email clifter1@yahoo.com14:10
sorenclifter1: You need to type "/msg nickserv" before the commands14:11
clifter1soren: yea I got it and my email set.14:11
sorenYou're not registered..14:11
sorennealmcb: I just did a gutsy install (using the server iso) inside the hardy qemu and that worked like a charm.15:03
dosnubbieHey how would one install Ubuntu-Server onto a Gateway Server that doesn't like to boot of CD/DVD drives?15:50
lamontwhat is it with people popping in, asking a question, and leaving 2 minutes later?17:06
sommerlamont: I think it's a personal attack on my ability to answer questions... :-)17:07
lamontheh.17:07
lamontPXE is the answer, of course.17:08
lamontnow what was the question?17:08
sommerheh... maybe he found the answer and was like "see you peeps... I'm out"17:08
lamontmaybe google helped him.  I hear it sometimes has answers.17:11
zullamont: maybe they had an epiphany17:29
MenZabadum-chi17:31
kshahI somehow locked myself out of ssh'ing into my server, I reconfigured sshd_config after noticing many login attempts from an unknown IP on port 22 I switched to another port and set up iptables, I reinited and everything was working fine, but somehow, somewhere I just lost the ability to log in remotely - I can enter my username and I never get prompted for a pass then my connection deads17:51
kshahhelp?17:51
sorenkshah: Which client are you using?17:52
ScottKI don't suppose you happen to have convenient physical access to the server?17:53
kshahsoren: putty17:53
sorenkshah: Thought so. Putty asks for your username before it attempts to connect.17:53
kshahScottK: i do, i'm sitting there right now, this actually happened a few days ago, but I want to make sure when I go back home I can use it17:53
sorenkshah: So it's not like ssh is half working or something. You're probably completely locked out.17:54
kshahsoren: oh.. wow, that was both good (cause i know the answer) and upsetting17:54
kshahso switch client or...17:54
sorenWell, what's the iptables command you used?17:54
kshahis it an actual problem17:54
sorenNo, it's not the client that's at fault.17:54
kshahoh17:54
kshahi thought that was what you were implying17:54
kshahfor iptables I followed the HowTo Guide on help.ubuntu.com17:55
sorenBecause putty acts the way it does (opening the window and asking for your username) it looks as though you're connected and then gets kicked off or something, but that's not the case at all.17:55
kshahand I saved the rules, let me check to see if they stuck cause i just restarted17:55
kshahoh i see17:55
soren..so it can sometimes fool you into thinkig that your ssh server is b0rken, while it's really the network that's acting funny.17:56
kshahand iptables did not save, when I restarted and ran sudo iptables -L I'm back at sq. 117:56
sorenkshah: No iptables rules? And you still can't connect?17:57
kshahsoren: yeah, still can't connect, i'm going to restore my original sshd_config settings and just change the port, reinit and see if it works17:58
sorenkshah: What did you change in sshd_config ?17:58
kshahthe options they suggested changing only, login time, AllowUsers, lLogLevel17:59
sorenThey?18:00
kshahsorry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo18:00
sorenThat doesn't even mention sshd_config?18:01
kshahi'm an idiot, i linked the wrong one18:01
kshahI meant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AdvancedOpenSSH18:01
kshahI have both open, my bad18:02
sorenWell, if you have no iptables rules in place, then you actually did botch your sshd_config.18:02
soren:)18:02
sorenI don't know if you consider that a good thing, but there you go :)18:02
kshahmy iptables rules didn't save after I wrote them the other day18:03
kshahI read that they go back to default unless you save them properly18:03
kshahso I assume that is what happened18:03
kshahand I still can't ssh in... which is very very strange18:03
kshahI restored my original rules18:03
kshahsoren: i restored the default settings save the port and i'm accessing it locally 192.168.1.100:22 and now I can't even put in my username in putty18:07
kshahi somehow made the situation worse by allegedly making it better18:07
sorenOk, maybe putty has been changed since I used it last. That's good :)18:10
* soren needs to run18:11
kshahk thx18:12
kshahis there another client i should perhaps use?18:13
ScottKkshah: On Windows you can instally cygwin and use ssh.18:17
kshahdoing that now :)18:18
kshahmy sshd problem is a whole nother mess now though18:18
kshahyay works18:19
kshahdoes iptables-save allow me to not have to edit etc/network/interfaces and place a pre-up and post-down iptables-restore directive? or is that still necessary?18:25
biebi will be putting my server up at the company I work for (ie. job.com) currently any of the windoze servers are named somename.job.com, where is that during the ubuntu setup? would I have to enter the whole string? bieb.job.com? or just name the server bieb?18:32
centaur5bieb: That would be the host name field during the install.18:36
biebcentaur5 just the name of the server (ie bieb) not bieb.job.com?18:36
centaur5bieb: I just did the bieb part but I couldn't tell you if it would work either way.18:37
biebI see18:37
biebI am going to build a jabber server for internal use, anything else I should keep in mind?18:38
centaur5bieb: Yeah, get a hammer or some migraine medicine.  I attempted that last week but didn't quite finish.18:38
biebohhh?? that bad huh?18:39
centaur5Well the howto I was following off the community doc site didn't go very far in depth so I searched around for other howtos and there just wasn't much information for when things didn't quite work like they should.18:39
biebwhich server you setting up?18:40
centaur5I thought it was going to be a piece of cake.18:40
biebejabberd? jabber? openfire?18:41
coNP[uni]Can someone refer me to some documentation regarding how to set up PostgreSQL authentication in Apache2 (for Gutsy)?18:41
centaur5just jabber from the package manager18:41
centaur5I used this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpJabberServer18:41
biebejabberd is in the ubuntu package manager now18:42
biebI installed it from synaptic18:42
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centaur5Is ejabber supposed to be easier?  I guess that howto is probably kind of old.18:42
biebejabberd has some other things I needed, like active directory authentication18:43
ScottKkshah: I have a script that I use to set them up.  I just run that as one of my init scripts.18:44
biebwhat script ScottK?18:45
centaur5bieb: Well good luck, I'm hoping to attack jabber again this weekend or next.18:45
biebI guess I will look for more docs18:45
biebthe ##jabber channel is pretty quiet18:45
ScottKbieb: One I wrote, but I think it's not relevant to your question.  I was answering a question that kshah asked before you joined.18:46
biebohhh I see18:46
biebthanks18:46
kshahScottK: but I can achieve the same by editing /etc/network/interfaces, right?18:47
ScottKkshah: I'm really not sure.  I just know how I do it.18:47
centaur5bieb: ejabberd looks a little easier, perhaps I'll try that and remove my previous work.18:48
biebcool18:48
biebgood luck18:48
biebI will be getting back at it soon too18:48
centaur5same to you  :)18:48
biebthanks18:48
biebis it better to build the ubuntu server with the regular 7.10 disk? or one of the other 7.10 options?18:49
kshahwhat are the major differences between 7.04 and 7.1 ?18:50
kshah7.10 rather18:50
centaur5kshah: all the "implemented" plans were added to gutsy https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/18:59
kshahchecking it out18:59
biebcentaur5  any thoughts on my question?19:09
centaur5bieb: if you want a command line server use the alternate cd19:09
biebso other than X, they are the same install?19:10
centaur5bieb: Well alternate actually has a "server" install option to where it does very basic packages whereas the live cd installs all the desktop apps.19:11
biebI see19:11
biebcentaur5 what server items need to be running for jabber? just apache?19:12
centaur5bieb: If you want lightweight gui use the Xubuntu cd19:12
biebare you using your jabber server for more than jabber?19:12
centaur5bieb: Yes, I'm using it for lots of services and applications.19:12
biebI see19:12
biebif it is just a jabber server, I dont need php, mysql, or any of that do I?19:13
centaur5bieb: I haven't checked the dependencies of ejabberd but you can look in the package manager.19:14
biebok.. thanks centaur519:15
centaur5no prob19:15
centaur5For JUST jabber, I would go command line...but that's me.19:15
centaur5Does anybody know of a site that I can get some really good information on the best way to calculate the amount of inodes needed on a partition?19:21
ScottKdendrobates, soren, others ... I was thinking it might be nice to also add http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html to /topic.  Any thoughts?19:26
dendrobatesScottK: It looks good to me, but the real bad offenders won't read it.19:29
ScottKdendrobates: OTOH, if it gets even one person to stop and think ....19:30
* ScottK will add it.19:30
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Burgundaviadid everybody see that sun released the apoc stuff today?19:50
mralphabetScottK: the topic is so long it cuts off the url after https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/19:51
ScottKmralphabet: Thanks.  I'll shorten it.19:52
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ScottKmralphabet: How's that?19:53
mralphabetScottK: much better19:53
proprietarysucksanyone know the kickstart command to make ubuntu not ask to continue after being unable to reach security.ubuntu.com or to turn this check off?19:55
mralphabetproprietarysucks: wasn't that asked and answered like a week ago?20:00
GnomonicI don't know if this is a Ubuntu Server question, but it is certainly not a Desktop question :). I have got a cheap VPS at vps4less.de. The problem is, that no locales are setup. How am I to do this excactly?21:07
Gnomonic( oh, and hello guys and gals, by the way :) )21:07
fujin_*no* locales?21:08
Gnomonicfujin_: Well, I suppose that 'POSIX' is there.21:10
fujin_when you type `locale`21:11
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Gnomonicfujin_: it says POSIX all the way down.21:12
GnomonicThe real problem is, that I had some help some while ago, and I managed to get da_DK.UTF-8 working.21:13
fujin_and what does locale-gen say?21:13
GnomonicBut it's very unstable. When I log in, it's standard POSIX. If I do export 'LANG=da_DK.UTF-8', locale returns the correct things. But if I log onto IRC irssi (which is the main use of the VPS), UTF doesn't seem to be active. But sometimes it works. It seems kinda voodoo-like.21:15
GnomonicI was just searching for the 'correct' way to set up locales.21:15
fujin_yeah sorry I've never had to do it.21:15
Gnomoniclocale-gen says da_DK.UTF-8... up-to-date21:15
Gnomonicfujin_: me neither :). It has seemed to be a part of a standard install since Redhat 4.21:16
GnomonicI don't even know if the system is Debian specific :(21:16
GnomonicThe annoying thing is that the vps-hosts standard Debian image seems to work. But then I have to set up sudo and some other stuff manually, which I don't fancy either.21:17
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kshahhey, I want to redo parts of my RoR installation on 7.04 server, how can I get a list of currently installed packages by me?22:31
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kgoetzkshah: afaik you cant list only packages installed by you22:33
kshahkgoetz: thats even better, is that dkpg command?22:34
kshahor?22:34
kgoetzkshah: `dpkg -l |less`22:34
kshahthanks22:35
somerville32All packages are installed by root22:35
kshahi really just wanted to see why zlib isn't working for me22:37
kgoetzwhats zlib, and whats 'not working'?22:38
fujin_dpkg --get-selections22:44
fujin_will show all that is installed22:44
fujin_kshah: that'd odd, what part of zlib isn't working?22:44
fujin_kgoetz: zlib is open-source compression22:44
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nealmcbsoren: ahh - interesting!  any idea what changed in qemu so that it works now?  did you try it with the gutsy qemu and see problems?23:10
sorenNo, I didn't have a qemu system handy.23:10
sorener...23:10
sorenbollocks23:11
sorengutsy system.23:11
kshahfujin: now I fixed that.. kinda, now I get gem_original_require23:20
kshah: no such file to load -- zlib (LoadError)23:20
kshahI perhaps should be asking this in the RoR channel23:20
kgoetzanyone else running gutsy and updatedb not being run automatically?23:22
fujin_I don't believe it ever is run automatically?23:25
fujin_unless it's in /etc/cron.*23:25
kgoetzi've never seen a debian box where its not updated before :\23:31
sorennealmcb: I'll probably try again tomorrow.23:31
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DrSmallHello23:36
DrSmallIf install a server, install X, and then pull the video card, will X still work and be able to launch apps over SSH ?23:37
kgoetzyou should only need x on the client, not server23:40
DrSmallOh, really ? I thought I would have needed it on the server too. This sounds good. Thanks :)23:42
proprietarysucksdoes anyone know if there is a way, using a kickstart file, to tell ubuntu either: don't try to contact security.ubuntu.com or: don't ask to continue when it's not reached?23:53
keescookproprietarysucks: don't know.  perhaps plunk a /etc/hosts file entry to redirect to a local apache server?23:54
proprietarysucksvery interesting23:56

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