[00:00] <bkraptor> Odd-rationale: thanks. I didn't know I had to register my nickname to send/receive messages from unregistered users.
[00:00] <tommy`> fsckr: do you have cool effect?
[00:00] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: If it's indeed the multiple GPUs causing a problem, This could be a big problem since this is supposed to be a multimedia box! :P I'm not sure what would happen if it works without the other GPU :P
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> bkraptor: NP
[00:00] <skyfalcon866> #kubuntu
[00:00] <fsckr> dont think so tommy` i dont even know wwhat the cool effect is
[00:01] <usser> zomg cool effect
[00:01] <Benalex> Hello all, is the attack on #Ubuntu over ?
[00:01] <digitori> fsckr: he must mean something to do with compiz/beryl?
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> LucianIndy: didn't know you were still around.
[00:01] <froggy_> So I go to repositories to enable "them" what's them where do I find them?
[00:01] <NoobSauce> Jordan_U: LjL: IndyGunFreak: So without the HDMI-out card, it works... I'm unsure what I can do about this though... maybe this is a motherboard issue... /me -> forums
[00:01] <Jordan_U> NoobSauce, There is a way in your Xorg.conf to specify a specific PCI BUS ( I don't remember how ), that might get it working
[00:01] <LjL> Benalex: attack?
[00:01] <LucianIndy> IndyGunFreak, here and there. still learning tho :D
[00:01] <IndyGunFreak> LucianIndy: we all are.
[00:01] <fsckr> hehe i dunno..i just went to open up my emerald manager to change my theme and the darn thing is blank LOL
[00:02] <digitori> froggy: repositories can be enabled in synaptic package manager
[00:02] <LucianIndy> i just made my first usplash, successfully
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: very wierd...
[00:02] <LucianIndy> :)
[00:02] <Benalex> LjL, Yeah there was an attack this morning... flooding attack
[00:02] <destructo> Is anyone here familiar with the freenode network?
[00:02] <Powhatanbob> can anyone suggest a pascal compiler for ubuntu? (or does it come with one already?)
[00:02] <froggy_> I'm in the package manager in repositories...
[00:02] <jeroenvrp> kitche: well gspace (firefox ext) works
[00:02] <AdioHyperion> choudesh: are you back yet?
[00:02] <froggy_> then I need to enable "them"
[00:02] <LjL> Benalex: err... yes, it's over, it was 12 hours ago =)
[00:02] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: i'd have never thought that, so you're using an onboard device now, right?
[00:02] <froggy_> what is "them"?
[00:02] <jeroenvrp> using that than instead
[00:02] <jsoftw> I dont understand why people even use those silly beryl type gizmos. I mean, its not like it actually increases productivity or anything. Surely one has something better to do than watch pretty effects all day long? :)
[00:02] <digitori> fp-compiler is a pascal compiler on ubuntu
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> jsoftw: To show off to our windows friends. ;)
[00:03] <Benalex> I have been thinking all the day, why would someone create a worm or a virus to attack Ubuntu??..
[00:03] <kitche> jsoftw: I use compiz really just for true transparency for my terms :)
[00:03] <tapas> i'm still trying to figure out how to get both vboxdrv and nvidia-glx in the same kernel
[00:03] <jsoftw> kitche: why do you even need that though?
[00:03] <LjL> !ot | Benalex
[00:03] <ubotu> Benalex: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:03] <Benalex> anyway... We are already here
[00:03] <raulh> umm, i can't find tremulous in my add/remove thing and when i got to their site the sourceforge link is dead any ideas?
[00:03] <NoobSauce> IndyGunFreak: Well, yeah. There's on-board video which I guess I'm using now, and then there's this HDMI card that comes with the motherboard (it's not a regular card, it has a feed directly off the motherboard as well as PCI). I'm thinking this non-normal setup is what's causing linux to get confuzzled
[00:03] <phasegen> anyone have any luck with cedega and oblivion under gutsy amd64?
[00:03] <LucianIndy> jsoftw, its a perk
[00:03] <nantax> using beryl gives you bragging rights against windows users (in terms of eye candy)
[00:03] <jsoftw> :|
[00:03] <Jarhyn> I just hope they fix that windows UDF dvd issue
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jsoftw, Though it's mostly pointless there are some very usefull effects, and benefits to rendering windows as textures with GPU acceleration rather than with the CPU
[00:03] <Jarhyn> soonish
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: sounds it.
[00:03] <raulh> jarhy what issue?
[00:04] <kitche> jsoftw: I don't really but fake transparency's I hate
[00:04] <raulh> my dvd plays just fine 0_o
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Did you enable all applications?
[00:04] <raulh> yes i did
[00:04] <skyfalcon866> i want to try kubuntu is it nessecry to reinstall kubuntu
[00:04] <NoobSauce> IndyGunFreak: I don't want to rub it in, but as you can see, I actually wasn't doing anything wrong :) Don't be so quick to assume
[00:04] <Jarhyn> Ubuntu can't mount DVDs made using the vista single/multi-session drag and drop file creation that uses UDF
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> NoobSauce: lol
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Universe and multiuniverse?
[00:04] <Benalex> LjL, ... I am here to ask about :  How can I disable "Link to" prefix when creating shortcuts??
[00:05] <Jarhyn> I banged my head against a wall for 2 days trying to figure that out
[00:05] <Jordan_U> skyfalcon866, No, you can install "kubuntu" on top of Ubuntu and vice-versa, they are just different sets of default applications
[00:05] <LjL> Benalex: no idea sorry, not on GNOME here
[00:05] <raulh> odd, seems you know much about this guide me D:
[00:05] <Benalex> ok.. Can anyone tell me how can I disable Link to prefixing when creating shortcuts?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> Jarhyn, Are you sure there is no way, or does it just not work "Out of the box" ?
[00:06] <cabroni_> does pygame create 3d games?  =O
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Can you get it now?
[00:06] <Jarhyn> pretty damn sure. I even recompiled the kernel trying to get it to work
[00:06] <raulh> no
[00:06] <raulh> omg i found it lol
[00:06] <Jarhyn> I fucked with fstab for 3 hours
[00:06] <LjL> !language
[00:06] <Odd-rationale> raulh: OK
[00:06] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:06] <Jarhyn> rawr...
[00:07] <Jarhyn> sorry, hard for a soldier to watch what he says. or types
[00:07] <LjL> is that the angry version of lawl?
[00:07] <raulh> unable to get expl\\clusive lock
[00:07] <raulh> umm  0_o
[00:07] <digitori> steve Jahryn Im sure I read a solution to vista UDF problem on gibson's grc webpage
[00:07] <Jarhyn> no, it's the furfag version
[00:07] <Jarhyn> I'll check that out then
[00:07] <Jarhyn> thanks digitori
[00:07] <Jordan_U> Benalex, I don't know if there is a preference in nautilus but you can always change the name afterwards or use "ln -s" directly from the terminal
[00:07] <Benalex>    Jarhyn : what exactly you are trying to do??
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Make sure you close all other apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/etc.
[00:08] <raulh> thers nothin g open
[00:08] <Jarhyn> make a ubuntu system mount a UDF volume made in windows vista
[00:08] <raulh> cept pidgin, firefox and add remove
[00:08] <jsoftw> nautilus :|
[00:08] <Jarhyn> it's much harder than it sounds
[00:08] <Jordan_U> raulh, Did one of those apps crash recently?
[00:08] <Benalex> Jordan_U, it says mising parameter
[00:08] <Jarhyn> windows vista doesn't exactly obey standards ruls very well
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> raulh: Hmm. Reboot should do it.
[00:08] <raulh> umm frostwire in packrger did
[00:09] <Jarhyn> anyway, they're kicking me out of the intarweb space now
[00:09] <Jarhyn> I'll be by later
[00:09] <Benalex> Jarhyn, I use Storage Device manager to configure fstab, very simple full GUI awesome
[00:09] <vis^^> hm... is recovery mode supposed to not being connected to a network?
[00:09] <raulh> ok restarting
[00:09] <amason_> hi guys ,  i need to install some newer versions of some software on a dapper system. can i use apt for this or can i just upgrade the packages with dpkg ?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Benalex, The syntax for ln -s is "ln -s /path/to/origianal /path/to/symbolic-link"
[00:09] <lumpy> bbiab gonna see if this worked...
[00:10] <kitche> amason_: umm if there are dapper packages you can just use dpkg if not have to install them yourself
[00:10] <phasegen> just get a pirated windows xp and get rid of vista, if microsoft won't trade you, it's only fair
[00:10] <Jordan_U> Benalex, A symbolic link in Unix is basically the same as a windows shortcut
[00:10] <amason_> kitche: they aren't dapper packages afaik.
[00:10] <Benalex> Jordan_U, I don't get it , What exactly ln -s does?
[00:10] <kitche> amason_: then compile or install them yourself
[00:10] <amason_> kit
[00:10] <Jarhyn> or not. it still works outside the building
[00:10] <amason_> kitche: that wasn't my question
[00:10] <Jarhyn> awesome
[00:11] <miles8> Okay, so performance of the ati driver (not fglrx) is crappy in Gusty, but was fine in Feisty.  Is there anyway to downgrade the driver and or Xorg?
[00:11] <tapas> ahm hum restrictred-modules wasn't installed..
[00:11] <amason_> kitche: if i compile from src, i don't want apt to complain on update
[00:11] <amason_> i just want it to skip that package
[00:11] <kitche> amason_: I answered your question then you told me they aren't dapper packages so I replied
[00:11] <storywarden> question, and i don't' know if there's an easy answer to it.  I know practically 0 about ubuntu, but i'm pretty good at computers, and i'm trying to help my husband out, who knows way more about Ubuntu than I do.  He has ubuntu loaded on his pc with no problems at all, and then decided he wanted to partition it and load winXP on a secondary partiion so we could play games together (my main computer is winXP i know i suck) he was able
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Benalex, It makes symbolic links ( shortcuts ) to files, it does the same thing that right clicking a file in nautilus and choosing "make link" does, but in the terminal instead of the GUI
[00:11] <wb1722> so can anyone help me find my drive
[00:12] <kitche> amason_: dapper won't have new packages unless they are security updates
[00:12] <Benalex> Jordan_U, ... Coool , thank you, I will read the manual of ln... "man ln" right?
[00:12] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Did windows clobber GRUB ( Ubuntu's boot loader ) ?
[00:12] <Jarhyn> well, time for me to go download furporn...
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Benalex, Yes
[00:13] <storywarden> It may have but he used a special cd he got to restore GRUB after the invasion of windows took over.
[00:13] <amason_> kitche: ok i'll reprhrase. i have the option to install src or some debian packages.I want apt to not complain on update, i just want it to ignore those packages. Can I blacklist these packages in apt ?
[00:13] <bkraptor_> does anyone know how to un-hide the userlist so that it is part of the main window?
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: So basically he wants to install windows after ubuntu?
[00:13] <kitche> amason_: of course you can
[00:13] <storywarden> right
[00:13] <movi> question : is it possible to play css-encrypted DVDs in totem using gstreamer?
[00:13] <amason_> kitche: thanks
[00:13] <mnk3ym4n> zzz: that was a VERY helpful bit of advice - thank you.
[00:13] <storywarden> and he has gone back through and reinstalled ubutu at least 4 times now and no luck correcting any problems.
[00:13] <Jordan_U> Benalex, And remember that you want a symbolic link, not a regular link, regular links are not quite the same as shortcuts and can cause interesting problems if you don't understand them
[00:14] <digitori> Jarhyn: hey have you seen this   http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20070422083715451
[00:14] <Jarhyn> probably
[00:14] <Jordan_U> movi, No, at least not the DVD menu
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: See if this helps: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Windows_-_Add_MS_Windows_to_Your_System76_Machine
[00:14] <storywarden> if he installs ubuntu with the ethernet cable plugged into the pc  then the installation of ubuntu freezes (he's guessing that it's trying to download or check something on the net)... also when he uses live cd's he has no routing at all... can't even telnet to our router.
[00:14] <movi> Jordan_U, lets say i dont care about the menu
[00:14] <Jordan_U> movi, I would just use VLC / Mplayer / gxine
[00:14] <phasegen> storywarden:  two questions, first - did he make the partition bootable?
[00:14] <movi> Jordan_U, what im interested in is, what happens supposedly if i insert a commercial dvd, and in totem click "Play Dics"
[00:15] <movi> Jordan_U, does it just start to play at first movie ?
[00:15] <storywarden> i believe so.  how would i be able to tell?  he can boot between the two partitions.
[00:15] <movi> Jordan_U, or does it flip saying a plugin is missing ?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Has he tried the alternate install CD?
[00:15] <raulh> ok umm now i did
[00:15] <storywarden> yes
[00:15] <phasegen> second - if he did, do you need a menu.list file?
[00:15] <raulh> reboot, and it's downloading thanks odd
[00:15] <storywarden> he's tried ubuntu based and non-ubuntu based.
[00:15] <Benalex> ok.. another question.... under windows, to change current keyboard language I press alt+shift, and to change text direction I press Ctrl+shift.... can this be done under Ubuntu?
[00:15] <storywarden> right now he's downloading a copy of fedora to try but he doesn't want fedora.
[00:15] <Jordan_U> movi, I think the former, but I'm not sure
[00:15] <diafic_> time for bed. snore!
[00:16] <movi> Jordan_U, could you check please?
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: Tell him to check the link i gave you ^
[00:16] <Jordan_U> movi, The problem isn't with commercial DVD's specifically, gstreamer can't display DVD menus for non DRM'd DVD's either
[00:16] <storywarden> i'll have him do that.
[00:16] <nantax> how do i turn off the quit and join message in pidgin, i just want to read the messages and not the spam generated by quit/join prompts
[00:16] <storywarden> thanks Odd+rationale... sorry i didn't see your response there
[00:17] <movi> Jordan_U, yes, that much i know. however, ive gotten as far as playing .vob files (although for css encrypted the video is garbled)
[00:17] <movi> Jordan_U, and what i want to know, is that button (Play Disc) only usable under totem-xine
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: NP. You should just switch to Ubuntu instead. ;)
[00:17] <phasegen> storywarden:  what games are you playing?
[00:17] <Jarhyn> thanks for the article. I was already aware that windows vista doesn't actually burn true UDF file structures though
[00:17] <storywarden> he keeps telling me that but I am reluctant... I really like my windows (for the most part) but right now it wouldn't matter even if I did change...
[00:18] <Jarhyn> otherwise it would WORK with ubuntu
[00:18] <bkraptor_> so, I don't know if anyone answered this question (as I have been playing with XChat, starting and restarting): does anyone know if the devs will push an updated ati fglrx driver when one that's stable becomes available?
[00:18] <storywarden> he can't get ubuntu to work.
[00:18] <storywarden> I play a lot of the Unreals, Diablos, Harry Potters (i know kids game there)
[00:18] <storywarden> we really try to play mainly first person shooters.
[00:18] <kjp2> grr. I'm trying to install gutsy on my gateway/motion m1200 and the framebuffer is clearly not working
[00:18] <kitche> bkraptor_: package versions don't get updated only if there is a security fix really
[00:18] <storywarden> he tried using WINE to run diablo but it wouldnt' work right.
[00:18] <usser> bkraptor, its unlikely new drivers that are not just security fixes are gonna appear in the repos
[00:18] <Jordan_U> movi, I believe so
[00:18] <phasegen> check and see if they'll run under cedega
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> a lot of games can run better under wine if ya use a no-cd crack on them.. sadly :(
[00:19] <kjp2> does anyone know how to disable the framebuffer?
[00:19] <theblock> quick question: what shal i use to mount NTFS harddrives, when i use ntfsmount it gives me permission denied
[00:19] <storywarden> (my main hang up on windows is that I absolutely adore msOffice and Outlook)
[00:19] <bkraptor_> okay thanks. I think it's odd they won't push an updated driver even if this would probably fix suspend/hibernate for everyone using the proprietary driver (myself included)
[00:19] <movi> Jordan_U, any way i could get a confirmation ?
[00:19] <storywarden> he was having a video issue it wouldn't do full screen.
[00:19] <usser> theblock, try ntfs-3g
[00:19] <Jordan_U> bkraptor, If it's truly stable it may end up in backports, the most recent one seems to cause more bugs for most people than it fixes though
[00:19] <theblock> i have it installed but dont know the command to mount
[00:19] <chimp> I'm trying to install alien on a laptop that has no net access atm, however by trying to download the .deb package it has dependencies and to install them they have dependencies etc. how can i download a package of alien that contains ALL the dependencies?
[00:19]  * Dr_Willis sends storywarden back to the asaylum for more shock theropy.
[00:19] <tomd123> storywarden: look up openoffice.org
[00:19] <theblock> just add it to mounts in etc?
[00:20] <storywarden> lol
[00:20] <usser> storywarden, outlook office? man u weird :(
[00:20] <movi> Jordan_U, because im actually doing this under Gentoo, and its different under Ubuntu, ill keep trying
[00:20] <bkraptor_> Jordan_U: what's backports? :)
[00:20] <storywarden> i have that on my pc right now... It's doable, but I dont' really like it.... *ducks*
[00:20] <Jordan_U> movi, In what way is it different?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> !backports | bkraptor
[00:20] <ubotu> bkraptor: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[00:20] <storywarden> my hubby's just happy that I allowed him to put ubuntu on my kitchen pc.
[00:20] <isleshocky77> I wast trying to get my svideo out to work with an ati video card.  I tried using envy and now my desktop install is borked.  I can after 7 minutes of loading get to a terminal, and I can load up the live cd and get to the contents of my drive, but is there a way to do a repair install for video?  I tried doing an envy --uninstall-all and it didn't fix anything.
[00:20] <usser> theblock, man it. should be as simple as ntfs-3g /dev/sda* /mnt
[00:20] <bkraptor_> thanks
[00:20] <movi> Jordan_U, eg that the Play Disc button actually works somehow in totem-gstreamer
[00:20] <gerhardlazu> hey guys, just a quickie, would you recommend gutsy over dapper for a clean server install?
[00:21] <sainzeo> evolution keeps crashing on me when attempting to view a groupwise calendar, i get a segmentation fault error - eany suggestions?
[00:21] <usser> storywarden, hubby as in husband?
[00:21] <theblock> usser:
[00:21] <storywarden> yeah
[00:21] <theblock> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[00:21] <theblock> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: You should be proud of him! He's trying to save you money.
[00:21] <gerhardlazu> so, gutsy over dapper?
[00:21] <storywarden> i know he is
[00:21] <usser> storywarden, wow u keep in tight cage.
[00:21] <humblerodent> I finished programming a Boggle clone for Java class :3
[00:22] <usser> humblerodent, whats a boggle clone?
[00:22] <usser> humblerodent, i finished programming a gui to ffmpeg for java class
[00:22] <emma> Can you put ubuntu on an asus eee pc ?
[00:22] <Jordan_U> emma, Yes
[00:22] <usser> emma, yea
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> emma: Need link?
[00:22] <AdioHyperion> choudesh?
[00:23] <emma> Sure
[00:23] <usser> emma, its gonna be slow pbbly though
[00:23] <storywarden> just right now he's about ready to throw the whole thing out the window because he just wants ubuntu back, willing to say screw the games but we can't get it to reinstall with the ability to browse to the depositories or to our router (which is running ... i can't remember what... the linux for router thing)...
[00:23] <usser> emma, unless its xubuntu or something
[00:23] <emma> xubuntu sounds like a good choice.
[00:23] <Jarhyn> I really need more experience with tarballs...
[00:23]  * usser screw the man save the empire
[00:23] <theblock> hum wont lemme mount
[00:23] <Vicfred> what do i need to install for compile from source?
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> emma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611422
[00:23] <emma> Thanks
[00:23] <kitche> !b-e | Vicfred
[00:23] <ubotu> Vicfred: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[00:24] <theblock> brb
[00:24] <Vicfred> thx
[00:24] <usser> Vicfred, start with build-essential
[00:24] <zzz> mnk3ym4n: No problem... (Sorry, I just saw your message.)
[00:24] <sainzeo> evolution keeps crashing on me when attempting to view a groupwise calendar, i get a segmentation fault error - eany suggestions?
[00:24] <bkraptor_> how dangerous is it really to activate backports?
[00:24] <kitche> bkraptor_: umm it's not dangerous at all
[00:25] <Jordan_U> storywarden, So it worked when first installed, then he installed windows on another drive, tried to restore grub but for whatever reason ended up re-installing Ubuntu completely and this time the install left a not fully working system? ( trying to make sure I understand the situation )
[00:25] <bkraptor_> so if I activate backports, do I have to disable normal updates? or is the system smart enough not to play ping-pong with the different versions ?
[00:25] <humblerodent> usser: Boggle is a word game with dice
[00:25] <humblerodent> I find the game boring, personally, but it was fun/challenging to program
[00:25] <Jordan_U> bkraptor, It's smart enough
[00:25] <bkraptor_> thanks
[00:25] <LadyLike> hi..all
[00:25] <usser> humblerodent, nice
[00:25] <LadyLike> i got problem with flash player in gutsy gibbon
[00:26] <kitche> bkraptor_: it uses whatever version is higher pretty much unless you have some odd package that actually decreases when it's updated
[00:26] <bkraptor_> so those updates that appear under Distribution are the normal updates?
[00:26] <Pollman> does anyone know if the pendrivelinux QKUB works with gutsy gibbon
[00:26] <storywarden> it worked when first installed, then he installed xp on the same drive on a 80GB partition.  Then he restored grub, so he can boot between windows and ubuntu but now ubuntu can't route to our router, nor can it route to the depositories for updating packages (the package managers don't work and neither does going through the url's )
[00:26] <LadyLike> i do compile and manual install but still not solve the problem
[00:26] <LadyLike> what should i do?
[00:27] <storywarden> once he found that he couldn't route, he then reinstalled Ubuntu
[00:27] <storywarden> (windows parition was still there)
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> !flash | LadyLike
[00:27] <ubotu> LadyLike: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[00:27] <LadyLike> thanks
[00:27] <storywarden> right now he's attempting to completely reformat (bye bye xp) and is having the same
[00:27] <kjp2> clear
[00:27] <FangLiger> okay so i've got a new problem, the system seems to lock up at random intervals
[00:27] <Odd-rationale> LadyLike: You should not need to compile flash yourself (unless you want to.)
[00:28] <bkraptor_> btw, does anyone know why VMware Player keeps coming up as an update even after I update it? same version every time
[00:28] <LadyLike> i already install .. but it's not working
[00:28] <LadyLike> so decided to compile
[00:29] <sainzeo> LadyLike: the easiest way, i believe, is to install flash by searching for restricted in Add/Remove
[00:29] <IndyGunFreak> LadyLike: it doesn't really have to be *compiled* per se...
[00:29] <FangLiger> bkraptor: did you try poking it with a stick, that would be the extent of the help i can give you
[00:29] <IndyGunFreak> even if you download it.
[00:29] <nantax> storywarde: try http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[00:29] <Pollman> Nevermind
[00:29] <ata4ix> )
[00:29] <LadyLike> so..it should be working in gutsy..because last time i cannot view the thing that use flash
[00:29] <bkraptor_> FangLiger: no, but thanks for the suggestion :)
[00:29] <sainzeo> evolution keeps crashing on me when attempting to view a groupwise calendar, i get a segmentation fault error - eany suggestions?
[00:30] <LadyLike> ok..
[00:30] <AdioHyperion> i have samba installed and i have shared folders - but i still cant see it on my windows xp computer
[00:30] <AdioHyperion> any ideas
[00:30] <LadyLike> thanks a lot
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: I would try this. Install ubuntu and select "Use entire disk" then follow the steps in the wiki I gave you. OR Install XP and use the entire disk, and install ubuntu using the "resize partition" slider.
[00:30] <IndyGunFreak> LadyLike: what file did you download from Adobe's site?
[00:30] <ata4ix> anybody knows where i can get libopenal.so.0 for kubuntu 7.10 32bit?
[00:30] <lwizardl> is there anyway to create a non journalized HFS+ partition using only Linux applications like Gparted etc?
[00:30] <kitche> ata4ix: probably openal
[00:30] <LadyLike> IndyGunFreak:: tar.gz
[00:31] <storywarden> the error we run into when we're trying to reinstall now (using entire disk) is that it freezes during the install because it can't access the network.
[00:31] <altbs4> This may seem premature but I have heard of problems with the onboard intel 82845g graphics in ubuntu I was wondering if there is a fix so I can be ready before I install
[00:31] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: I did the second option on my friend's PC. So far, everything works fine.
[00:31] <IndyGunFreak> LadyLike: ok, extract it, and follow the instructions to install it, its honestly pretty easy
[00:31] <AdioHyperion> choudesh?
[00:31] <LadyLike> ok..thanks to u all
[00:31] <storywarden> is there any reason why ubuntu can route to web pages just fine but can't route to our router or to the depositories?
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> depositories.. :)
[00:32] <Jordan_U> storywarden, *repositories
[00:32] <storywarden> thanks
[00:32] <ata4ix> kitche, i have amd64 system, but need the libopenal.so.0 32bit for the some pogram
[00:32] <storywarden> at least I didn't say supositories.
[00:32] <ata4ix> where i can get it?
[00:32] <storywarden> (i really can't spell)
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol, true.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Can you pastebin the output of "tracepath google.com" ?
[00:32] <IndyGunFreak> storywarden: or you didn't say, "ubunto" which nnoys me to death
[00:33] <kitche> ata4ix: from openal 32bit package
[00:33] <FangLiger> so anyone have any idea why my system keeps locking up, could it be something to do with my nvidia drivers?
[00:33] <ata4ix> where is based?
[00:33] <storywarden> true... but i do typo a lot.
[00:33] <ata4ix> 32bit package?
[00:33] <ata4ix> i can get it from ineT?
[00:33] <storywarden> um... how would li pastebin?
[00:33] <Jordan_U> IndyGunFreak, Have you read the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic ? ;)
[00:33] <storywarden> speaking of typp
[00:33] <storywarden> s
[00:33] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: not recently, hang on
[00:34] <Odd-rationale> !pastebin | storywarden
[00:34] <ubotu> storywarden: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <tony_> I appear invinsible for all my contacts in amsn why? help please
[00:34] <Pollman> Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu 7.1 running inside of windows?
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: and that is so true.. but i think ubunto drives me absolutely nutty
[00:34] <storywarden> would I have to be on the troubled pc to get that?
[00:34] <raulh> umm, i just installed/downloaded trmuouse and it crashes as soon as it opens, can anyone help me?
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> raulh: well thats not a very good description.
[00:35] <raulh> pollman, i have i used WMware
[00:35] <theblock> still cant get anything to mount
[00:35] <theblock> ntfs
[00:35] <raulh> ok, i installed it it goes fullscreen and it closes
[00:35] <raulh> that's all it does :(
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> storywarden: yes
[00:35] <theblock> theblock@theblock-desktop:~$ ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/1
[00:35] <theblock> Error opening partition device: Permission denied
[00:35] <theblock> Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
[00:35] <Jordan_U> storywarden, I guess output's from both a working computer and the non working one would be nice to compare, but either would be usefull.
[00:35] <IndyGunFreak> raulh: well, thats almost as worthless as your first statement
[00:35] <Pollman> raulh, can you point me to that?
[00:35] <storywarden> um.... well let me see what state the pc is in... brb. (other room)
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !sudo | theblock
[00:35] <ubotu> theblock: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:35] <raulh> to vmware?
[00:35] <raulh> it's a virutal pc is that what you ment?
[00:35] <krammer> what kind of software can i use for burning?
[00:35] <Pollman> No
[00:36] <Pollman> Sorry
[00:36] <usser> kramer, k3b
[00:36] <Pollman> I mean has anyone managed to get Ubuntu running from a flash drive inside of windows
[00:36] <raulh> ahh :p lol u mean dual partitioning?
[00:36] <ata4ix> where i can find libopenal.so.0 for 32bit?
[00:36] <theblock> yeah jordan but it still doesnt explain why sdb1 and sdc1 arent mounting
[00:36] <raulh> oh..
[00:36] <adamonline45> Hi all.  I got ndiswrapper installed, and can see my wlan0 in iwconfig, but how do I configure it/connect to an AP?
[00:36] <krammer> thanks i was entering kb3
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Pollman, In a virtual machine?
[00:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[00:36] <Pollman> No
[00:36] <FangLiger> Pollman: the only distro i know of that can run embedded inside windows, is Damn small linux
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Then how?
[00:36] <raulh> well, if u can get ur partitioner to detect ur flash driver you probably could
[00:37] <raulh> 7.10 detected my ipod witch i mistakenly left in the usb slot
[00:37] <Jordan_U> FangLiger, Pollman But DSL uses a virtual machine to do it
[00:37] <Pollman> pendrivelinux.com had software to run ubuntu 6.10 inside of windows from a flash drive
[00:37] <Odd-rationale> Pollman: Or QEMU puppy
[00:37] <Pollman> yes qemu
[00:37] <storywarden> back - can't do it from the pc with issues, he's got it pretty much non-bootable now with deleting the partitions.
[00:37] <Pollman> odd-rationale, does that work with 7.10?
[00:37] <storywarden> so there's no bootable OS on the HD now.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Pollman, So were you not saying no to my question when I asked if you wanted Ubuntu to run in a virtual machine?
[00:38] <Pollman> Jorddan_U, yes I don't want a virtual machine
[00:38] <Vicfred> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? ... why now i need root permision to install? D:
[00:38] <raulh> umm, back to my question, well i went to add/remove programs, and i searched for tremouse the online game, and it downloaded as soon as it finished it said "finished installing tremuous" so i went to applications, games,opened trem, and it goes full screen but black and it just crashes.. anyone know why or a fix???
[00:38] <theblock> oh i gotta disable them in windows?
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> Pollman: You mean boot gutsy in QEMU. I haven't tried it. I was just saying that you can boot puppy in QEMU...
[00:38] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Do you get the same problems when booted from a LiveCD?
[00:38] <storywarden> yup
[00:39] <usser> Vicfred, its in your own interests. or perhaps u want spyware as in windows? :)
[00:39] <storywarden> only with a live cd we can't even route period
[00:39] <digitori> Vicred: you must have a terminal accessing as root for install and or another program like synaptic running twice
[00:39] <storywarden> so we're thoroughly baffled.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Can you access web sites?
[00:39] <FangLiger> hey, i'm running a Geforce 8600gt, would this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24703 affect my machine at all, it's been locking up like that
[00:39] <storywarden> from my pc yes.
[00:39] <storywarden> and when he had windows on his it could too.
[00:39] <digitori> Vicred, close any installers down and open one up again
[00:39] <Jordan_U> storywarden, I mean from the Ubuntu LiveCD
[00:39] <raulh> umm ill just try re-installing it i guess....
[00:39] <Pollman> it works with 6.10
[00:39] <storywarden> not on his pc
[00:40] <Pollman> I just don't want to have to boot from the flash drive everytime
[00:40] <Jordan_U> storywarden, How is his PC connected to the network?
[00:40] <storywarden> ethernet cable.
[00:40] <digitori> calling Vicred, calling Vicred
[00:40] <TehGuy> hey guys i need some help...
[00:40] <TehGuy> i installed ubuntu on my macbook
[00:40] <TehGuy> and the wireless in not working
[00:40] <Pollman> I get the ubuntu boot screen
[00:41] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Can you boot it from a LiveCD and try "sudo ifconfig eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[00:41] <Pollman> and then the loading screen
[00:41] <raulh> pollman, dude what u trying to do? make a portable ubuntu linux?
[00:41] <TehGuy> i followed the instructions to install the wireless drivers, is there something i'm missing/
[00:41] <storywarden> i can... lemme go try it... brb.
[00:41] <shadeofgrey> okay so alpha 1 of heron is out can someone please point me to the right repos so i can do a dist-update without downloading the iso?
[00:41] <Pollman> raulh, yeah I have ubuntu bootable on my flash drive
[00:41] <TehGuy> i dont see any wireless setting anywhere.
[00:41] <Pollman> raulh, I just can't make it so I can run it inside of windows
[00:41] <Jordan_U> TehGuy, Did you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com for your specific model of macbook?
[00:41] <TehGuy> yes
[00:41] <digitori> talk about lving on a knife edge
[00:41] <FangLiger> pollman where'd you get the stuff to make 6.10 run in qemu?
[00:41] <raulh> umm, well vmware makes a virtual machine that u can set where to isntall everything
[00:42] <Pollman> FangLiger, pendrivelinux.com
[00:42] <raulh> it's one best virtual pc's out there that u can install a real os and run it inside windows
[00:42] <TehGuy> i followed the instructions on help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[00:42] <raulh> you should try it
[00:42] <FangLiger> lol wow i'm special
[00:42] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, if you don't know how to do that you probably shouldn't be running Heron this early.
[00:42] <FangLiger> and you can run it embedded?
[00:42] <Pollman> I can get the loading screen working
[00:42] <Pollman> but it goes all wacky after that
[00:42] <Pollman> I'll try in graphics safe moode
[00:43] <Pelo> !enter | Pollman
[00:43] <ubotu> Pollman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:43] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, im not asking you for a summatioin of my worthiness - all i want is a link to the repos please
[00:43] <raulh> hmmp... well i highly, strongly suggest you use wmware :) it's really good becuse if u gots enough ram u can run two operating system at same time and be able to do mostly everything..
[00:43] <FangLiger> ah well that sounds neat either way, i may be interested in that as well since i'm on a public computer alot without admin privilages
[00:43] <Pelo> !repos | shadeofgrey
[00:43] <ubotu> shadeofgrey: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[00:44] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Just change gutsy to heron in your soures.list, and be ready to re-install if something goes wrong
[00:44] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I mean to hardy
[00:44] <digitori> shadeofgrey: youll be back
[00:44] <raulh> AFK for a bit
[00:45] <kev_b> hi, can anyone tell me why under system->administration on my Fiesty install I cannot see "login window"? How can I get it back or open it manually?
[00:45]  * shadeofgrey laugfhs... he cant remember the command to open his sources.list file
[00:45] <shadeofgrey> god im rusty
[00:45]  * Pelo is gonna have a hard time keeping hardy herron straight, it will probably come out as horny hard...
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[00:45] <eddy> How do I undo in the file browser?  I accidently deleted something.
[00:45] <ata4ix> anybody knows how to compile libopenal.so.0 for 32bit under 64bit system&
[00:45] <jrib> shadeofgrey: /join #ubuntu+1 for help with hardy
[00:45] <digitori> kev_b: do you mean a terminal window?
[00:45]  * FangLiger laughs at Pelo but realizes he would do the samething
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> eddy: look in trash
[00:45] <bruenig> eddy, is it in the trash can think?
[00:45] <Pelo> shadeofgrey, if you can't get into the source list on your own , you shoudlnt, be editing it
[00:45] <eddy> its not there
[00:46] <bruenig> eddy, gone
[00:46] <eddy> whatt!!!??
[00:46] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I assume that this is a spare PC that you have absolutely no desire to have actually working any time soon ;)
[00:46] <bruenig> thing*
[00:46] <digitori> kev_b Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> eddy: where you running as sudo or root when you deleted it?
[00:46] <kev_b> digitori: no its a setting windows for the gdm login... gives options like automatically logging in a user
[00:46] <Pollman> Still no luck
[00:46] <AdioHyperion> hello
[00:46] <bruenig> eddy, try not to delete things you don't want to delete, good advice for the future
[00:46] <AdioHyperion> i can access my shared drive on the linux computer with my windows computer - but i cannot edit the files
[00:47] <AdioHyperion> it says access denied
[00:47] <raulh> thats because its diffrent partition
[00:47] <bruenig> !enter | AdioHyperion
[00:47] <ubotu> AdioHyperion: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:47] <Jordan_U> eddy, There is no undelete for ext3, if it was a very important text file you can try grepping the entire partition, but otherwise it's just gone
[00:47] <Pelo> AdioHyperion,  you probabaly need to set the proper permissions on the ubuntu side of things
[00:47] <shadeofgrey> screw this.  i really wish you elitist folks would leave your god complexes at the door and just answer the simple questions
[00:47] <bruenig> hmm
[00:47] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I am not trying to be eletist, I am not running hardy yet either
[00:47]  * bruenig wonders where the door is
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeofgrey: dont be rude
[00:47] <raulh> shade whats wrtobng
[00:48] <raulh> wrong*-
[00:48] <Pollman> I'm trying something else
[00:48] <AdioHyperion> how can i fix it so i can move files to my linux computer
[00:48] <Pelo> shadeofgrey, ... , have you ever been in #debian ? try to get a question answered there
[00:48] <shadeofgrey> whats the terminal command for ediuting the sources.list file
[00:48]  * Pelo considers showing bruenig the door 
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> shadeofgrey: I gave it to you
[00:48] <raulh> adio why not just burn a data cd?
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit path and name of file
[00:48] <raulh> shade of greay terminal cmmand for what
[00:48] <AdioHyperion> cause a cd only holds 700mb
[00:48] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:48]  * bruenig challenges Pelo in a fit of irrational macho glory
[00:48] <esbirililson> disconnect
[00:48] <tuxcrasher> help: ubuntu loads up to end of bootsplash then goes to blank screen, i ran fsck in recovery and got a bunch of errors, now it doesnt boot at all. booted into recovery and it says the fs doesnt have /sbin/init and it dumped me into initramfs... what do i do?
[00:48] <raulh> u looking for music?
[00:48] <kev_b> Any ideas guys? System->Administration->Login Window missing...?
[00:48] <AdioHyperion> and i have 500 gb worth of information
[00:48] <Pelo> AdioHyperion, I'm not very knowledgable on samba but I would expect you need to give the remote user permission to write to the ubuntu hdd
[00:48] <Pollman> Agh the graphics are still messed up
[00:48] <raulh> wtf 500gb?
[00:48] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Or gksudo gedit or sudo nano, whichever editor you prefer
[00:48] <raulh> thats a ALOOT!!
[00:49] <bruenig> shadeofgrey, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:49] <isleshocky77> When I start up my Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop system I get the error "serial8250: too much work for irq10" over and over from 0 - 557.9920000.  I can get to just normal terminal, but I can't get the desktop to start up. Any suggestions for what I should try reinstalling or configuring?
[00:49] <devilhan> any bash expert here?
[00:49] <devilhan> :)
[00:49]  * bruenig chuckles
[00:49] <jrib> devilhan: #bash has the bash experts
[00:49] <raulh> devilhan what type bash help u need
[00:49] <raulh> i know a few
[00:49] <bruenig> devilhan, no one will own up to being an expert for fear of being immodest, you will best serve to just ask
[00:49] <devilhan> I am trying to alias a "find command"
[00:50] <Pelo> isleshocky77,  boot the recovery mode and try reinstaling ubuntu-desktop
[00:50] <bruenig> be best served*
[00:50] <Pollman> Can anyone point me somewhere that has information about ubuntu on a flash drive?
[00:50] <raulh> walks away XD devilhan im so noobie with hash's
[00:50] <jrib> devilhan: you need to be more specific
[00:50] <devilhan> alias answers='find ~/.survey -name 'answers' -exec cat -n {} \;'
[00:50] <raulh> can't help u there >_<
[00:50] <bruenig> devilhan, more specific?
[00:50] <isleshocky77> Pelo: WHat will I lose by doing that?
[00:50] <zdh> Pollman: google? ;p
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> cya tomorrow pelo
[00:50] <devilhan> and  i want to put this in ~/.bashrc
[00:50] <Pollman> zdh, tried that :P
[00:50] <jrib> devilhan: get rid of the inner ''
[00:50] <isleshocky77> Pelo: What's the best way to do this? apt-get, dpkg ??
[00:50] <zdh> dammit :p
[00:50] <Pelo> isleshocky77, yo won't loose anything
[00:50] <storywarden> i'm back... was there anything specific we were looking for on the messed up pc?  it gets and ip address, and I can ping the router, i can browse via google, and I can telnet via terminal to the router, but I still can't get to the respositories or actually browse to the router via firefox.  (this is on the livecd for Ubuntu now)
[00:50] <digitori> kev_b: I havent ever seen that on my menu...noly ever seen access to thpse configs in kubuntu menu
[00:51] <Pelo> isleshocky77, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:51] <devilhan> you mean get rid of all the single quotes?
[00:51] <bruenig> devilhan, does that not work or what?
[00:51] <jrib> devilhan: no, the inner ones
[00:51] <eddy> jack_sparrow no i wasnt using root/super user, (was afk sorry) can i get my file back?
[00:51] <devilhan> ok let me try that
[00:51] <raulh> story live cd's don't always work coimpletley for navigation thru the net
[00:51] <eddy> this makes me furious, i should just switch back to windows
[00:51] <kev_b> digitori: its there in my gutsy... its also in the Feisty faqs etc : (
[00:51] <raulh> eddy, do that? linux dosn't suit everyone, sadley.. i love linux :D
[00:51] <eddy> i press the delete key accidently  & my stuff is permanently gone
[00:51] <raulh> wow haha
[00:51] <eddy> this is crazy
[00:52] <raulh> yeah.. no recycle bin.
[00:52] <Templer> anyone here installed vuze on ubuntu
[00:52] <Pelo> eddy, were you in root ?
[00:52] <eddy> no
[00:52] <eddy> and i checked trash
[00:52] <eddy> its not there
[00:52] <raulh> 0_o
[00:52] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Should I do apt-get uninstall ubuntu-desktop first, or do a --reinstall
[00:52] <digitori> not on gnome it isnt...
[00:52] <raulh> usureu whernt in root account?
[00:52] <eddy> im not usiing root
[00:52] <zdh> eddy: either you pressed shift + del than pressed the delete button that pops up
[00:52] <shadeofgrey> thanks jordan.
[00:52] <shadeofgrey> its processing
[00:53] <eddy> there should be an undo feature
[00:53] <shadeofgrey> and its not like this is important
[00:53] <Pollman> I give up
[00:53] <raulh> woah, this is crazyits so late already!
[00:53] <Pelo> isleshocky77, go for reinstall,  my thought is that there is something borked with something in that part of it that keeps you from getting the dektop so if I am right ..
[00:53] <kev_b> digitori: I'd take a screen shot... but please just trust me it is : )
[00:53] <shadeofgrey> if it borks to hell i have the gutsy CD right here
[00:53] <shadeofgrey> all i have to do is reinstall
[00:53] <raulh> eddy, umm you should make sure you don't need anyhting before deleting it man.. what did you delete?
[00:53] <Pollman> Does anyone have info on enabling compiz-fusion on a flash drive install of ubuntu?
[00:53] <digitori> kev_b i trust you it just isnt on my menus never has been
[00:54] <devilhan> jrib, thanks for the answer
[00:54] <shadeofgrey> im interested because theres supposed to be an upgrade to the flgrx ati driver -- i wanna see if it still blows rancid baboon balls
[00:54] <devilhan> that works to some extent
[00:54] <devilhan> :)
[00:54] <cutmerock> hey
[00:54] <eddy> raulh, txt files, obviously i didnt mean to press DEL, i was moving my keyboard
[00:54] <cutmerock> can anybody help me out with Ubuntu?
[00:54] <digitori> kev_b it is on my kde menu though under system settings
[00:54] <cutmerock> i cant get my wireless to work
[00:54] <isleshocky77> Pelo: It has to do with some thing with my video card. I was trying to get my s-video out to work so I started messing with different drivers and envy.  After doing a manual envy driver install this happened.  When I did an envy --uninstall-all I still get the same thing although it said it was successful
[00:54] <Pelo> eddy, you were unlucky,  stuff usualy doesn'T disapaar when you just hit del, they go to the trash. if you had the shift key held down when you hit del you would have had a confirmation screen
[00:54] <raulh> oh.. wow lol
[00:54] <shadeofgrey> if so im deleting ubuntu entirely and not returning to it till i have amac with an nvidia graphoics card
[00:54] <DG19075> shadeofgrey: Do you have a DVD burner? there is a DVD iso of 7.10 available that has much more on it than the CD
[00:54] <tuxcrasher> hey im trying to reinstall ubuntu and the boot cd stops at 'running local boot scripts' help?
[00:54] <raulh> yeah he might have been tpying and hit delete  :D
[00:54] <Pelo> isleshocky77, did you just try reconfigureing x first ?
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: http://www.simplehelp.net/images/ubuntulogin/ubal01.jpg
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: just a google image search, not mine
[00:55] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Any direction on doing that?
[00:55] <shadeofgrey> DG19075, nah.  the new driver was  released yesterday
[00:55] <digitori> kev_b its probably because I dont use gdm i use kdm
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: problem is the KDE one will probably affect KDM
[00:55] <raulh> darnit!!!!!!!
[00:55] <shadeofgrey> with alpha 1 of hardy
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: ah, that is why
[00:55] <raulh> omg can someone help me on this tremulous game?
[00:55] <shadeofgrey> thats the only reason imm doing this
[00:55] <DG19075> ahh
[00:55] <raulh> i reinstalled it twice..
[00:55] <kev_b> digitori: but I use GDM so I need it : )
[00:55] <raulh> and after i run it it just crashes
[00:55] <aeGIs> Wow...  There is an UbuntuME (Muslim Edition)...  It's like your own flavor of jihad coming at you linux style.
[00:55] <raulh> without any info
[00:55] <digitori> kev_b yeah thats why...hang on see if i can help
[00:56] <IamReck> aeGIs, link me
[00:56] <Pelo> isleshocky77,  again , boot the recovery mode ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  , select the correct driver from the list ( vesa if you donT' find a matching one) when it doubt about the rest just use the default provided or donT' enter anything
[00:56] <KI4IKL_> What is the name of the nonfree codecs like mp3 and wav files in the repos?
[00:56] <aeGIs> I think the graphics card comes disabled too...
[00:56] <IamReck> i need to see that
[00:56] <nano|marek> hi everyone. I can't seem to get any audio-cd-burning tools to work with MP3s. how do I burn an audio-cd from mp3s?
[00:56] <LjL> raulh: you ran it from a terminal i suppose?
[00:56] <jrib> !restricted > ki4ikl_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:56] <raulh> no i didn 't
[00:56] <aeGIs> IamReck: http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04624
[00:56] <raulh> i installed it from add/remove
[00:56] <DG19075> I'm just waiting for the kinks to get worked out of hardy b4 I use it
[00:56] <Pelo> nano|marek,  you need to insatll mp3 support
[00:56] <LjL> raulh: then do, it will probably give you additional info.
[00:56] <Pelo> !mp3 | nano|marek
[00:56] <raulh> ran it from app's/games
[00:56] <ubotu> nano|marek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:56] <cutmerock> Can anybody help me? I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and the wireless is not working, my card is Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter, can anybody help?
[00:56] <KI4IKL_> thanks jrib
[00:56] <raulh> umm, ok whats command to run an app?
[00:57] <LjL> raulh: most probably "tremulous"
[00:57] <FangLiger> hey Pollman did you see this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/03/26/portable-qemu-persistent-ubuntu-linux/
[00:57] <FangLiger> ?
[00:57] <Pelo> DG19075,  you do realise that hardy is on the first beta right ? with  5 months to go for the officals release ?
[00:57] <IamReck> rofl
[00:57] <raulh> ok i'll try
[00:57] <Pollman> FangLiger, thats the one I was using
[00:57] <raulh> ooooh
[00:57] <DG19075> yup...that's why I wait
[00:57] <cutmerock> Can anybody help me? I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and the wireless is not working, my card is Broadcom 802.11g Network Adapter, can anybody help?
[00:57] <raulh> warmomg cpi;d mpt set given mode (3)
[00:58] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
[00:58] <raulh> re shutdown
[00:58] <Pollman> But its using edgy eft not gutsy gibbon
[00:58] <aeGIs> iamfuzz: you like that?  I think they disabled the graphics card to so you can't see or read or hear anything
[00:58] <aeGIs> iamreck: you like that?  I think they disabled the graphics card to so you can't see or read or hear anything
[00:58]  * Pelo usualy waits for a couple of weeks after the official release 
[00:58] <FangLiger> ahhhh
[00:58] <LjL> !wifi > cutmerock    (cutmerock, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:58] <FangLiger> well it looked like it worked with any version
[00:58] <raulh> Ljl: it gave me a warning
[00:58] <Pelo> isleshocky77, the right question gets you the right asnwer
[00:58] <cutmerock> thanks
[00:58] <DG19075> I've had no problems with this Gutsy DVD...Very solid
[00:58] <FangLiger> it just said generic "ubuntu iso"
[00:58] <raulh> LjL it said "Warning:could not load openGLsystem
[00:58] <Pollman> It boots and shows the loading screen, but fails after that
[00:58] <raulh> and could not set given mode
[00:58] <isleshocky77> Pelo: I tried the question before, but no one answered.
[00:59] <Dogfishguzzler> Hi guys, can I squeeze in a quick question about chatx?
[00:59] <lildeb> hello, does anyone have any past experience with kernel compiling??
[00:59] <Pollman> Maybe its something to do with vista
[00:59] <raulh> umm you mean xchat?
[00:59] <Dogfishguzzler> sure lol
[00:59] <Pelo> isleshocky77,  as you may have noticed this is a very busy channel
[00:59] <raulh> 0_o
[00:59] <xoss> good am.. can someone help me.. how do i get ownership to save .html files in /var/www?
[00:59] <raulh> just ask away
[00:59] <IamReck> aeGIs, I just find it hilarious that they have a religious based distro
[00:59] <digitori> who knows how to edit gnome menus?
[00:59] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Yes, that's why I asked again. I appreciate all the people helping a lot.
[00:59] <Dogfishguzzler> How can set the start channel? It always comes here but what I want is #emc
[00:59] <Pelo> xoss,   sudo chmod 755 /var/www
[00:59] <CoasterMaster> digitori, do you want to edit the applications menu?
[00:59] <raulh> go to prefences?
[00:59] <jrib> digitori: right click on the ubuntu icor, edit menu
[01:00] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Yeah, that worked. thanks alot.
[01:00] <raulh> options?
[01:00] <xoss> thanks Pelo
[01:00] <Dogfishguzzler> It's not there raulh
[01:00] <aeGIs> IamReck: Yeah...  well, when you're after world domination why not
[01:00] <IamReck> aeGIs, there is a christian version too
[01:00] <raulh> D: really?!?!?
[01:00] <Pelo> Dogfishguzzler,  in the server list,  edit the server
[01:00] <raulh> well, when you first wrote the servcer name
[01:00] <Dogfishguzzler> ahh
[01:00] <raulh> it asked u
[01:00] <Dogfishguzzler> ok thanks
[01:00] <IamReck> lol too true aeGIs
[01:00] <digitori> jrib cheers
[01:00] <HateX> hey guys, while trying to copy a rar file to another directory i get this error "Error "Too many open files" while copying "/home/nick...FE2003.rar"" what does this mean
[01:00] <HateX> i don't have the ram?
[01:00] <storywarden> the live cd's been able to at least get to our router before, and it wont let us install.
[01:01] <Pelo> HateX, are you copying more then one file ?
[01:01] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Know anything about getting s-video output to a tv on ubuntu 7.10 and a ATI MOBILITY RADEON (M6) 4X AGP and 3D architecture  video card
[01:01] <storywarden> is there anyway to get IRC to work on a live cd?  hubby's up now and at his puter.
[01:01] <raulh> ok, so i run tremulous from terminal, and it said "warning : coul;d not load openGL subsystem, amd could not set given mode
[01:01] <raulh> can anyone help?
[01:01] <HateX> no just 1 rar file
[01:01] <digitori> kev_b try this right click on the ubuntu icon, edit menu as per jrib's answer
[01:01] <lildeb> Is there anyone with kernel compiling experience??
[01:01] <digitori> kev_b you should be able to restore what you need on the menu?
[01:01] <aeGIs> IamReck: Well, that's okay...  Does the Muslim edition electrocute you if you misspell muhammed or violate one of the hadiths online... ;)
[01:01] <Pelo> isleshocky77, not realy, did you look up s-video or your card model in the forum ? www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:01] <renato> how do i create a file system and format a usb disk in raw format?
[01:01] <raulh> try a live CD renato
[01:01] <isleshocky77> Pelo: Yeah I did and went through 10 different threads. Couldn't find anything.
[01:01] <Pelo> !opengl
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <HateX> Pelo, no just 1 rar file that's about 110 meg
[01:02] <kev_b> digitori: trying now
[01:02] <raulh> i think ubuntu detects nusb storage devices
[01:02] <Dogfishguzzler> I think that did it, lets see :D thanks, it's been years since I did irc.
[01:02] <Pelo> isleshocky77, try in there  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[01:02] <raulh> usb*
[01:02] <jacob> how do i make avi files play under totem?
[01:02] <LjL> raulh, do other 3D (OpenGL) apps/games work? does "glxgears" works at an acceptable speed?
[01:02] <raulh> one sec ill try
[01:02] <jacob> vlc?
[01:02] <xoss> Pelo, chmod 755 also gives me write access to the files in /var/www?
[01:02] <Pelo> raulh, try searching for opengl in synaptic and see if you can install something
[01:02] <shadeofgrey>  looks like ill be a vista puke in a few weeks
[01:02] <Dogfishguzzler> crap
[01:02]  * shadeofgrey sighs
[01:02] <raulh> alrighty i have a raw empty linux
[01:02] <raulh> no updates.,.
[01:02] <aeGIs> IamReck: There is a l ittle USB "Finger Guillotine" that can automatically mutilate you included with every distro...  It can also be controlled remotely by any imam.
[01:02] <aeGIs> :)
[01:03] <Pelo> xoss, it's write access to user,  read exe to the groop and to others
[01:03] <HateX> Pelo, hmm now it worked... i don't know
[01:03] <renato> raulh, i've tryed with backtrack, but nothing happens.... need to do something extra... testdisk says that the disk s good... but i can't alocate the partition
[01:03] <raulh> well i made my ipod linux
[01:03] <raulh> and i used ubuntu
[01:03] <Pelo> HateX, it if works don'T complain , just enjoy
[01:03] <raulh> edgy eft
[01:03] <raulh> and it reformated it just fine
[01:03] <Pelo> !enter ! raulh
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter ! raulh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <Pelo> what the f ?
[01:03] <caravel> help! gutsy,gnome. Partial menus after disaster caused by alacarte's revert function. Custom submenus were renamed as "alacarte-menu-XX" and uneditable. Moved ~/.config/menu out, half of items came back, all other are now grouped within the Other category. Any idea ?
[01:04] <Pelo> !enter | raulh
[01:04] <ubotu> raulh: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:04] <LjL> Pelo: !
[01:04] <raulh> u did a !
[01:04] <HateX> Using ubuntu, is the filesystem subject to fragmentation? if so, where is the defrag utility
[01:04] <lildeb> anyone with experience on compiling the new kernel 2.6.23.9??
[01:04] <tuxcrasher> my ubuntu doesnt boot...it dumps me into a screen with a white underscore... can someone plz help me?
[01:04] <raulh> oh sorry....
[01:04] <kev_b> digitori: sorted now, thanks
[01:04] <digitori> kev_b: cool
[01:04] <Pelo> caravel, check in /home/user/.config/menu , see if you can rename something in there
[01:05] <digitori> kev_b glad i could help
[01:05] <LjL> HateX, ext3 is engineered in a way that makes fragmentation a non-issue under normal circumstances. there is a package called "defrag", but it's at least a decade old, and only recently patched to support ext3, it can definitely be dangerous to use
[01:05] <raulh> ummkay pelo i dont see any opengl programs just a openglad a game,....
[01:05] <Pelo> HateX, ext3 does not need to be defragmented
[01:05] <raulh> any other ideas?
[01:05] <h1st0> test h1st0, h1st0 Read the message from ubotu
[01:05] <Pelo> tuxcrasher, what is your videocard ?
[01:05] <LjL> h1st0, test in #ubuntu-bots please
[01:05] <HateX> Pelo, excellent thank you for your time
[01:05] <Benalex> I am an old Hotmail user, so I have HTTP access to my inbox, can I use it with evolution?
[01:05] <Pelo> raulh, look up the error msg int eh forum
[01:05] <HateX> LjL, thankyou
[01:06] <raulh> ok umm forum?
[01:06] <storywarden> had anyone answered my question about irc on live cd?  My irc crashed
[01:06] <shadeofgrey> can ubuntu handle sli yet?
[01:06] <caravel> Pelo: thanks for your answer. I have renamed ~/.config/menu as ~/.config/menu.test to try restoring the original menu layout. But this does not suffice apparently
[01:06] <Pelo> Benalex,  search in the forum for hotmail, there is a how to on getting it to work in evolution,  it works very well for me
[01:06] <digitori> Benalex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[01:06] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: wouldn't it be more of a driver limitation then a distro limitation?
[01:06] <Pelo> caravel,  I thought the /menu was a folder ? there should be backup files in there, with your history all laid out
[01:07] <ConstyXIV> does anyone have two-finger touchpad scrolling working well?
[01:07] <digitori> Benalex: did you get that?
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> h1st0, no...  its kernel dependant
[01:07] <Benalex> Pelo, digitori : I think I am not clear enough....
[01:07] <Benalex> I have HTTP access not POP access....
[01:07] <digitori> Benalex: read this  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408
[01:07] <Pelo> Benalex,look in the guide, it is all properly explained
[01:07] <caravel> Pelo: it is a folder, that gets created as you customize your menus. By default (new account) there is no folder.
[01:08] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: I thought the nvidia kernel modules where compiled on driver installation. I don't believe they are packged in.
[01:08]  * Pelo buts out of every single thread he's helping on 
[01:08] <raulh> pelo, umm i think i found a solutrion but... uummmmm im not msmart enough to use it can you help me?
[01:08] <Benalex> digitori: I am reading it,,, it is describing how to do it using pop server, which I am not allowed to do since I am a free user
[01:08] <Pelo> raulh, gimme the link
[01:08] <corruptionoflulz> why does the gnome wallpaper manager thing have to suck so much?
[01:08] <caravel> Pelo: and making use of this history (or, building it) is precisely what alacarte seems very bad at doing
[01:08] <raulh> it says You need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add:
[01:08] <raulh>  Load  "glx"
[01:08] <raulh> under
[01:08] <raulh> Section "Module" but i dont understand what i am sopposed to do
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> h1st0, no your not undersdtanding me.  even if the nvidia driver is up to date, if the kernel doesnt have the rigt module to handle SLI processing nothing will work
[01:09] <digitori> Benalex, have tried following those instructions to see what happens?
[01:09] <Lunar_Lamp_> I want to add a new session to gdm, but I cannot find any entry in "/etc/gdm/Sessions/" so where can I add them?
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> youi'll most likely just defaulty to one card
[01:09] <raulh> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-288380.html umm here's the link
[01:09] <caravel> Pelo: hence, (re)moving this folder should restore the initial ("designed") setup and categories, right ? well it is not the case
[01:09] <Pelo> raulh,  pastebin your xorg.conf file so I can have a look
[01:09] <Benalex> digitori: mmm thou I know it won;t , but why not giving it a try
[01:09] <raulh> umm how i access them
[01:09] <caravel> Pelo: and this is where I got lost
[01:09] <Pelo> caravel,  you'll need to restart x or at least the gnome pannel
[01:09] <raulh> >_< sorry, i am not to good with terminal or ubuntu.. i just trasnferd over from slax
[01:10] <caravel> Pelo: I did
[01:10] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: ahh gotcha.  You'd probably have to contact the kernel team.
[01:10] <storywarden> ok.... i'm back... i don't forsee my program closing again .... now... about that live cd irc issue... so my husband who knows more what's going on can get on... any tips?  i didn't get a chance to read any before it closed out.
[01:10] <caravel> Pelo: many times ^^
[01:10] <h1st0> shadeofgrey: unless you could make old config on the kernel and see if they added that option.
[01:10] <storywarden> and also as I didn't get a chance to read from before... wht information were we trying to gleen by using the duo ifconfig thingy.  (we got ip address and everythign from router)
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> i just wanted to know if anybody is working on it
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> bedcause my next computer aint a mac
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> running linux on iuntel macs is the biggest pain in the ass
[01:10] <Pelo> caravel,  did you check in the forum ?
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> and i HAVE to have ubuntu full time
[01:10] <zetheroo> can someone help me install this printer?
[01:10] <shadeofgrey> looks like ill be using my amex card very liberally in january
[01:10] <Pelo> !enter | shadeofgrey
[01:10] <ubotu> shadeofgrey: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:10] <raulh> pelo how i access my .xconfig files?
[01:11] <Pir8> how can I add multiple workspaces ?
[01:11] <Pir8> s/how/where/
[01:11] <Pelo> raulh gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:11] <ConstyXIV> if someone's using two finger (macbook-style) scrolling on their touchpad, could they pastebin their xorg.conf for me?
[01:12] <digitori> Benalex: I wonder if the wonderfull person who took the time to write that tutorial would have known the difference between free and paying hotmail users
[01:12] <macafe> Hi, How I can verify in Shell Script if one $Var is a integer ?
[01:12] <raulh> can anyone help me get my xconf open?
[01:12] <Pelo> raulh gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <lupakan_sajalah_> alow
[01:12] <Pelo> raulh, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:12] <Benalex> digitori: I found some good stuff... just gimme sometime
[01:12] <jack_> cool
[01:12] <digitori> Benalex: you got all the time you need its ok dude
[01:13] <jack_> wee
[01:13] <digitori> relax
[01:13] <zdh> you cant read your hotmail in evolution or icedove if you are a free user, they disabled that a long time ago
[01:13] <zetheroo> how do I start a setup.sh file?
[01:13] <caravel> Pelo: yes, and did browse the xdg spec too. sgml is my business expertise, so that does not scare me -- well, spending that much time repairing my OS reminds me another one which I really would like to forget about :)
[01:13] <storywarden> i was wrong.... program crashed again... but error has been taken care of...
[01:13] <bruenig> zetheroo, bash setup.sh
[01:13] <storywarden> if anyone ansewred me I didn't see it.
[01:13] <Pelo> zetheroo,   cd to the forlder   sudo ./setup.sh
[01:13] <bruenig> or sudo ././setup.sh
[01:14] <digitori> Benalex: oh well that blows that
[01:14] <Pelo> storywarden, try asking again, but make it one line and a very breif one
[01:14] <zetheroo> Pelo; tried that ... did not work
[01:14] <bruenig> zetheroo, did not work means what
[01:14] <Benalex> digitori: Oh man , stop calling my nick , I am busy reading :))
[01:14] <Pelo> zetheroo,  cd to the folder,   sudo shmod 777 fliename.sh , then sudo ./filename.sh
[01:14] <zetheroo> bruenig: did not work.. did nothing... no error messages ... nothing
[01:15] <nano|marek> I understand taht k3b has mp3 support in the form of libk3b2-mp3. Is there something similar for any of the Gnome equivalents? which one shoukld I go with
[01:15] <zdh> Benalex: you cant access your hotmail if you are a free user in evolution
[01:15] <digitori> Ok fairs fair dont ask me to help you again
[01:15] <storywarden> jordan_u what were we trying to find out by the sudo command you had me try on the live cd?
[01:15] <bruenig> zetheroo, well then it must have worked if there were no error messages
[01:15] <kanuha> can anyone recommend a photo printing program where I can tell it to print a 5x7 or 8x10 photo of a picture?
[01:15] <raulh> pelo: ok here is my xconf http://pastebin.com/m67d1bb09
[01:15] <Pelo> !mp3 | nano|marek
[01:15] <ubotu> nano|marek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:15] <Pelo> raulh, hld on
[01:15] <corruptionoflulz> nano|marek: i read somewhere that brasero is a decent gnome replacement for k3b
[01:15] <raulh> kk
[01:15] <storywarden> i've had some issues with my chat that I just got fixed and haven't seen anything since I left to go try the command and came back and posted my questions
[01:15] <Spudster> I have a question for anyone who can help me, I am installing an application and get this error: "Error! Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.22-14-server cannot be found at /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/build or /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-server/source." I am running Ubuntu 7.10 Server.  I have checked for these directories and they do not exist.  I have tried to apt-get install linux-source but the error persists.  Any ideas?  TIA
[01:15] <ryan8403> what's the best way to securely wipe a failing drive?
[01:15] <zetheroo> Pelo: shmod: command not found
[01:15] <raulh> storywand whats wrong?
[01:15] <corruptionoflulz> nano|marek: although, i don't see why you couldn't just run k3b in gnome...
[01:16]  * bruenig chuckles at the typo
[01:16] <storywarden> kinda long but i'll try to make it fast.
[01:16] <Pelo> zetheroo,  mymistalke  chmod
[01:16] <zetheroo> ok
[01:16] <Jordan_U> storywarden, If the drivers are loaded correctly and you use DHCP it should have connected you to your network
[01:16] <nano|marek> corruptionoflulz: ok thanks for the advice
[01:16] <nano|marek> Pelo: thanks also for the information!
[01:16] <raulh> ooh storywand u can't connect to internet?
[01:16] <Benalex> zdh: Well... digitori has another opinion... and he gave me a good thread from the forum... and I am still trying It
[01:16] <kanuha> can anyone recommend a photo printing program where I can tell it to print a 5x7 or 8x10 photo of a picture?
[01:17] <zetheroo> Pelo: ok did it and tried ./setup.sh again ... nothing.....
[01:17] <storywarden> husband runs ubuntu on his pc as his main os, he decided to create a partition to instsall xp on so we can play windows games on the lan.  he got all the bootloader stuff fixed no problem..  but now he can connect to the internet, but he cannot route to our router, and he cannot route to the repositories, neither by installed os or by live cd.
[01:17] <Jordan_U> storywarden, If it didn't work the output may contain error messages that would clarify what is going wrong
[01:17] <corruptionoflulz> i don't understand why so many people think kde apps can't run in gnome and vice versa....
[01:17] <zetheroo> Pelo: there is an autorun file ... can I access that?
[01:17] <TehGuy> guys... i need help with my wireless.
[01:17] <corruptionoflulz> storywarden: uh oh, i always read that installing windows second is bad news =/
[01:17] <storywarden> jordan_u ... we are connected to the network because we can route to google and such.
[01:17] <raulh> wow thats a big problem isn't it
[01:17] <smooker_> What is the process name for File Browser in Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[01:17] <storywarden> just not to the router's config page or to the repositories.
[01:17] <corruptionoflulz> !ask | TehGuy
[01:17] <ubotu> TehGuy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:18] <Pelo> raulh,  right after  line 18 ,  section "files" end section ,    insert the lines  Section "Module" and 	Load "glx"   and  EndSection
[01:18] <ConstyXIV> smooker_: nautilus
[01:18] <Pelo> zetheroo,  check in here  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[01:18] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Please pastebin the output of "tracepath google.com"
[01:18] <|unjustice|> How does one access an edirol 2.4 bit wav/mp3 recorder? I am running Gutsy
[01:18] <smooker_> thanks
[01:18] <jsoftw> Im not running Gutsy
[01:18] <raulh> wow umm pelo that scrolled oiff my screen can you pm it to me please?
[01:18] <jsoftw> Erm wait I am
[01:18] <jsoftw> doh
[01:18] <TehGuy> i tried several times to install it but its not showing up to me in the network settings window
[01:19] <Pelo> raulh, join me in #pelo
[01:19] <nantax> when i use xchat, my taskbar (clock, network icon, trash icon etc) disappears, what gives?
[01:19] <kelsin> |unjustice|: what mode edirol unit is it?
[01:19] <nantax> but when i quit xchat, it all comes back
[01:19] <mikecables> I'm a super-newbie to Linux... I just installed Ubuntu 7.10, and I'd like to know if there's a way to make it re-use the display drivers that it automatically used upon setup.  I changed to another one from my card Manufacturer (Matrox), but now I want to roll back and don't know how to do it.
[01:19] <|unjustice|> kelsin: r-09 I think
[01:20] <storywarden> corruptionoflulz - well now we've removed windows and are trying to reinstall ubuntu but are still ahving the same trouble.
[01:20] <CoasterMaster> mikecables, did you install the other driver using the 'restricted drivers manager'?
[01:20] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: there is a reconfigure x command, i forgot what it is.. dpkg something...
[01:20] <froggy__> it's hard to install a game because I have an ati card that needs to be installed and it's hard
[01:20] <storywarden> jordan-u, i'm having him try to do the tracepath... what are we looking for there?  (considering we get to google just fine)
[01:20] <mitch00> i'm trying to set "/schemas/apps/evolution/calendar/display/compress_weekend" to false in gconf-editor but its telling me "Currently pairs and schemas can't be edited. This will be changed in a later version." anyone have any ideas?
[01:20] <h1st0> corruptionoflulz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <mikecables> No it said there were no restricted drivers.  I used the methods outlined at Matrox, and the driver IS faster, but some apps don't work, and I want to roll back to see if they do afterwards.
[01:21] <CoasterMaster> mikecables, ahh, I don't have a matrox video card, so I can't help you with their own drivers, unfortunately
[01:21] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: you probably could just use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <digitori> Benalex: They are correct hotmail removed thrid party access...ive just tried it
[01:21] <jrib> mitch00: why would you want to do that?  You sure you do not want /apps/...?
[01:21] <underwatercow> how can I find out my motherboard make and model in ubuntu?
[01:21] <digitori> sorry dude
[01:22] <h1st0> underwatercow: you can't
[01:22] <zdh> digitori: told you :)
[01:22] <Benalex> what do you mean with removing third party access?? digitori
[01:22] <PriceChild> underwatercow, read it
[01:22] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: this would allow you to reconfigure x back to what it was without any drivers, then you can reinstall them yourself... i think.
[01:22] <h1st0> underwatercow: what are you trying to do?
[01:22] <underwatercow> h1st0: that's it
[01:22] <miles8> Anyone know the command to start the fglrx-control ?
[01:22] <h1st0> underwatercow: What type of computer do you have?  Did you build it did someone else?  Is there a model number?
[01:22] <Pelo> miles8,  did you try fglrx-control in the terminal ?
[01:22] <mikecables> If I use that command, will it try to redetect and use what it did initially, because I did a few other things with the graphical version, and the driver never changes or it corrupts the scree.
[01:22] <zdh> Benalex: Third party access means using a program, example evolution to access your mail
[01:23] <mitch00> jrib: i'm trying to make my calnder display 7 columns instead of 6 where sat/sun is displayed as one. are you saying i'm not doing this right?
[01:23] <digitori> Benalex: third party access = evolution, kmail etc...keep trying what your doing someone else says it works
[01:23] <underwatercow>  h1st0: I built it, but I can't remember the make or model, lol
[01:23] <storywarden> also if it makes any difference we can telnet to the router but we can't browse to it via firefox...
[01:23] <jrib> mitch00: go to /apps/... not /schemas/apps/...
[01:23] <underwatercow> h1st0: it shows on the bios splash screen doesn't it?
[01:23] <miles8> Pelo, yes, I would have thought it would be that, but no such command is on the machine, and I did install the package
[01:23] <storywarden> we did the tracepath to google.com and everything went through fine.
[01:23] <Jordan_U> storywarden, Ahh, that is usefull to know
[01:23] <digitori> hotmail evolution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608295&highlight=hotmail
[01:23] <onats> anyone here encountering weird behavior on your mouse? my mouse dies randomly...
[01:23] <Jordan_U> storywarden, ( the telnetting part )
[01:23] <h1st0> underwatercow: on some boards.  If not a model number is usually silk screened on the board somewhere.
[01:23] <mitch00> jrib: well that was simple. thanks :)
[01:24] <Benalex> digitori: the author of this thread.. is claiming about simulating pop... so it is not about which client I am using anyway
[01:24] <Pelo> miles8,try  man fgrlx or whatever it is and see if it is listed
[01:24] <zetheroo> nothing is working with this setup.sh file
[01:24] <underwatercow> h1st0: I'll try looking at the mobo... I don't wanna restart
[01:24] <kelsin> |unjustice|: have you tried just plugging it in via usb and seeing if it pops up as a usb drive, so you can grab the mp3's off of it and stuff?
[01:24] <h1st0> underwatercow: typically at the bottom of the board. ex: bottom of your case or left side of the board.
[01:24] <Pelo> zetheroo, got a read me file or an install file in there ? read it
[01:24] <digitori> benalex: it appears that way
[01:24] <miles8> Pelo: Did that
[01:24] <Jordan_U> storywarden, What happens when you try to access the repositories / how are you trying to do it?
[01:24] <h1st0> underwatercow: down by the last pci/isa slot.
[01:24] <zetheroo> Pelo: yes I do
[01:24] <Pelo> zetheroo, get reading
[01:24] <zetheroo> Pelo: I have ... duh
[01:25] <nantax> when i use xchat, my taskbar (clock, network icon, trash icon etc) disappears, what gives? when i quit xchat, it all comes back
[01:25] <h1st0> underwatercow: if not a restart may be in order where it will show on the post screen prior tot he bios loading usually.
[01:25] <rainwalker> when I launch VLC through the normal menus, it shows up as a separate task from my VLC launcher in AWN, why?
[01:25] <miles8> Pelo: Maybe the package is messed up
[01:25] <Benalex> well.. but I am stuck here with something digitori , opening this config files leads to an empty file!!
[01:25] <Pelo> miles8, also check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:25] <digitori> Benalex: One moment please
[01:26] <zetheroo> Pelo : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46646/
[01:26] <condon> Can anyone tell me what software to use to put either an MPEG2 or AVI file onto a dvd (to play in a standard dvd player)?
[01:26] <corruptionoflulz> nantax: if noone is answering, it's more likely than not that it's simply that nobody knows why, i suggest trying the forums a bit.
[01:26] <zdh> rainwalker: i think its some kind of taskbar, showing what you are running atm ;p
[01:26] <Benalex> digitori: its working
[01:26] <Pelo> zetheroo, hold on
[01:26] <thinman1189> !open office
[01:26] <Benalex> 100% percent working... I am sooOOOOooo HappY... I Love My UbUnTu :))
[01:26] <zetheroo> Pelo: thanks
[01:26] <storywarden> jordan_u - he's gone to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ (he can browse through to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but when he tries to click on dists it says "waiting" and then times out).
[01:26] <corruptionoflulz> condon: i think devede(something like that) should work fine.
[01:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about open office - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <smooker_> Someone help, i cant build Alsa drivers for my HDAudio
[01:26] <Pelo> what do you need to know about OOo ?
[01:26] <rainwalker> zdh: I know that, but when I launch firefox or a terminal through the menus, the arrow appears under it's launcher in AWN rather treating it like a separate task
[01:26] <corruptionoflulz> condon: wait, isn't mpeg2 dvd format??
[01:27] <condon> Thanks corrupt
[01:27] <|unjustice|> Anyone know how to get a roland edirol mp3/wav recorder to input data in ubuntu gutsy?
[01:27] <condon> I thought, using K3B, but it says...hold on a sec
[01:27] <thinman1189> !openoffice
[01:27] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[01:27] <corruptionoflulz> condon: also, if you type just the first few letters of my name, then hit tab, it'll auto complete
[01:27] <chimp> How can I download a .deb package that contains all the dependencies (i have an offline laptop i need to install stuff on)
[01:27] <Benalex> digitori: Thanks for your help... I really appreciate that
[01:27] <zdh> rainwalker: that sounds rather wierd, still i dont use awn anymore
[01:27] <LjL> !offline | chimp, you can't but
[01:27] <ubotu> chimp, you can't but: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[01:27] <rainwalker> zdh: what do you use?
[01:27] <homeskillit> I get this error when booting up
[01:27] <homeskillit> [   15.663037] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 7 of bridge 0000:00:04.0
[01:28] <smooker_> Someone help, i cant build Alsa drivers for my HDAudio please
[01:28] <mikecables> Ok, thanks, and I'll try it.  I'll let you know if it worked.  thanks again.
[01:28] <condon> corruptionoflulz: Thanks man, always wondered how people did that (sorry, completely new to irc
[01:28] <Jordan_U> chimp, LjL There is an easier / more reliable way
[01:28] <chimp> there is?
[01:28] <Pelo> zetheroo, try the line  ./python setup.sh
[01:28] <zdh> rainwalker: nothing atm, still trying to figure out how to get the engage dock standalone to work ;p
[01:28] <chimp> Its been paining me atm
[01:28] <chimp> What is this easier, more reliable way?
[01:28] <chimp> And cheers for the help
[01:28] <rainwalker> zdh: engage?
[01:29] <corruptionoflulz> condon: lol, np.. let me know if devede works, i'd also like to know.
[01:29] <zetheroo> Pelo: bash: ./python: No such file or directory
[01:29] <Jordan_U> chimp, LjL On the machine that the packages need to be installed to ( the one without internet ) open synaptic, check the package you want to install, then go to file -> Generate package download script
[01:29] <Pelo> zetheroo, sudo setup.sh
[01:29] <h1st0> chimp: what are you trying to get working?
[01:29] <Pelo> zetheroo,  waht is this anyway ?
[01:29] <zetheroo> Pelo: sudo: setup.sh: command not found
[01:29] <chimp> Well im actually trying to get alien, in order to install some rpm packages for SDL_mixer
[01:29] <zetheroo> Pelo: my printer driver
[01:29] <LjL> Jordan_U: nice, script is linux-only i suppose? (don't have synaptic)
[01:30] <zetheroo> Pelo: for Linux
[01:30] <chimp> thanks jordan
[01:30] <Pelo> zetheroo, try  sudo run setup.sh
[01:30] <Jordan_U> chimp, You can then put that script on a removable drive of some sort and run it on a machine with internet access and it will download all of the needed .debs to the current directory you are in when you run the script
[01:30] <storywarden> when he uses a packagemanager when he triest to update/refresh the repositories it says it's downloading 17 of 18 and hangs there forever (no error) and when he clicks the error to view the dropdown for status everything is failing and the path doesn't look quite right.
[01:30] <chimp> man that it cool
[01:30] <zdh> rainwalker: http://sathyasays.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/dl_dektop.JPG
[01:30] <chimp> I knew there must be an easy way
[01:30] <zetheroo> Pelo: bash: run: command not found
[01:31] <kelsin> chimp: is the libsdl_mixer1.2 package on ubuntu not good for some reason?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> chimp, If it's a windows machine just look at the URL's in the script ( The script is just "wget -c <URL> a bunch of times )
[01:31] <rainwalker> zdh: what's so great about it?
[01:31] <h1st0> chimp: are you sure the packages aren't in apt?
[01:31] <Pelo> zetheroo, cd to the folder where the setup.sh file is ,  then type  sudo sh setup.sh
[01:31] <chimp> yes they are
[01:31] <chimp> but i didnt have net access
[01:31] <chimp> hence i had to download them off another puter, transfer them accross etc.
[01:32] <kelsin> ok, well I would sugge3st to use this script to download the ubuntu sdl_mixer package,s not alien to install rpm's
[01:32] <chimp> Hence i can now skip the rpm step because of jordans suggestion
[01:32] <chimp> aces
[01:32] <chimp> cheers :)
[01:32] <kelsin> chimp: ok good :")
[01:32] <h1st0> chimp: well you want just he debs then.  No need to download alien then download the rpms.
[01:32] <zetheroo> Pelo.... sorry nothing
[01:32] <Pelo> zetheroo, just try sh setup.sh
[01:32] <LjL> !no offline is <reply> If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[01:32] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[01:32] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'
[01:32] <chimp> Yep h1st0, the rpms was just the original problem
[01:32] <zdh> rainwalker: well, i tried it with another distro and it runs more smooth than awm
[01:33] <Pelo> zetheroo,  you do know hat linuxis case sensitive so if the file is Setup.sh don'T type setup.sh
[01:33] <storywarden> jordan_u:  if i click on the arrow to expand, I see that the only download (i had pressed "reload") that passed was the gpg keys all the rest say failed.
[01:33] <storywarden>  then i cancel and it brings up a window with the correct URL (the one you can get it), saying it couldn't not download all suppository indexes.  (specifically in his words what happens)
[01:33] <zetheroo> Pelo... thanks for your help .. but nothing still ... and I am useing case sensitive letters
[01:33] <TehGuy> oh, whoops
[01:33] <h1st0> Anyone know anything about using the split option in screen.  I'm trying to split now between the two windows I have.  I have irssi in the top and nothing in the bottom?
[01:34] <TehGuy> i zoomed in for some reason in ubuntu
[01:34] <markybob> does hardy installer support encrypted root partition yet?
[01:34] <TehGuy> on the desktop or something
[01:34] <Pelo> zetheroo, you did change the folder to the cd right ?
[01:34] <TehGuy> how do i zoom out>
[01:34] <mikecables> corruptionflulz: Would you mind giving me that command again?  I didn't have my chat log on, and I couldn't paste it after copying it from the screen.
[01:34] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'?
[01:34] <emma> suddenly my sound isn't working unexpectedly.
[01:34] <jack_> hmm
[01:34] <sunilonln> hi, i'm looking for a utility that can do a batch time offset on jpeg exif data
[01:35] <jack_> this is interesting
[01:35] <SmoothOp> question
[01:35] <SmoothOp> i'm going to dual boot
[01:35] <zetheroo> Pelo: I have it on CD and on my Desktop... and I have been trying every possibility on both locations
[01:35] <onats> !mouse
[01:35] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[01:35] <SmoothOp> install windows or linux first
[01:35] <emma> !sound
[01:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:35] <digitori> Benalex: you there?
[01:35] <LjL> sunilonln, i suspect you won't find one... however, it's probably not too difficult to write a shell script that does it, using some console exif editor
[01:35] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'?
[01:35] <jack_> linux first
[01:35] <jack_> it'll work
[01:35] <jack_> then you'll be happy
[01:35] <jack_> and forget all about windows
[01:36] <omega_> how do u turn off tap to click in ubuntu for trackpads?
[01:36] <sunilonln> LjL: okay; there are a bunch for windows so i figured someone has made a gui
[01:36] <Pelo> zetheroo, what I mean is , the line in the terminal you much change to the correct folder to you can run the file ,   start a fresh  terminal,   type cd and then drag the folder with the setup.sh file in it to the terminal, then hit enter,
[01:36] <Jordan_U> !synaptics | omega_
[01:36] <ubotu> omega_: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:36] <jack_> omega: System > preferences > mouse
[01:36] <LjL> sunilonln, "exiv2" specifically boasts about time changes, have a look
[01:36] <digitori> Benalex: Micros**t require money for webdav access, we could have saved ourself some pain.   Im switching my hotmail to something else
[01:37] <zetheroo> Pelo... I have been doing all the command in the Cd and in the Desktop area
[01:37] <digitori> like a secure encrypted pop service
[01:37] <omega_> jack, one sec
[01:37] <neur1> conky works in gnome, but not in open-box / gnome. says it can't load the font: arial what line do I add to get it working?
[01:37] <Pelo> zetheroo, I give up then
[01:37] <zdh> digitori: dosent gmail support third party programs?
[01:37] <PanzerMKZ_> there is a bot to control the flood
[01:37] <xeer> when using synaptic how can i switch it from 'install from cd' to 'install from internet'?
[01:37] <PanzerMKZ_> nice
[01:37] <zetheroo> Pelo.. ok... no worries..... thanks for trying
[01:37] <omega_> jack, not there
[01:37] <digitori> zdh: you warned us about hotmail didnt you?
[01:37] <mikecables> Can someone give me, once more, that linux command which rolls back a video driver to original?
[01:37] <storywarden> jordan_u:  so he's using web and synaptic to try to reach the repositories
[01:38] <alyxander> hey guys
[01:38] <zdh> digitori: yeah i know, so ill look into this matter myself ^^
[01:38] <Pelo> xeer,  in the synaptic menu,  look for repositories,   click, in the first taab , unchekc the cd
[01:38] <digitori> zdh: yeah possibly will check it out...i dont really need hotmail or gmail etc ive got a secure encrypted service anyway...err you were right dude
[01:39] <vn> hi, I'm trying to setup compiz (I'm not sure if I use fglrx or not) and I followed a tutorial, at the end, I tried to log in after a reboot and it did nothing for 10s and then I have a black screen and it comes back to the login screen...what may be the cause?
[01:39] <kelsin> h1st0: hit Ctrl-A then Ctrl-I to switch to that lower empty window, then you can use normal screen commands to select a window for that "region"
[01:39] <Pelo> vn, compiz is already instaled in gutsy and enable if your hardware can handle it
[01:39] <zdh> digitori: i know, i tried the hotmail with thunderbird without success, then googled it to find out microcock dosent like their free users ;p
[01:39] <digitori> Benalex: Do yourself a favour and switch from hotmail...its suggested gmail may accept third party programs like eveolution.
[01:39] <kelsin> Benalex: digitori yeah gmail supports normal pop and imap access
[01:40] <vn> Pelo: I used to have beryl perfectly in Edgy..why not in Gutsy?
[01:40] <digitori> zdh: it was one of those things i had to see for myself...probably cause it was microsoft
[01:40] <vn> maybe I have something to configure in xorg.conf or...?
[01:40] <Pelo> vn, beryl does not exist anymore, it is merged back with compiz into compiz-fusion
[01:40] <cristhian>  i need to open winrar files. any suggestion ?
[01:40] <zdh> digitori: hehe :)
[01:40] <thinman1189> digitori: I remember there being a plugin for thunderbird to allow msn (free) accounts to work, I don't know if it still works or is compatible with the linux version of thunderbird.
[01:40] <digitori> Benalex: you lost out there in cyberspace...you aint saying much?
[01:40] <LjL> !rar > cristhian    (cristhian, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:40] <digitori> kelsin: thanx
[01:40] <Pelo> vn, and compiz-fusion is already part of the gutsy default isntall
[01:40] <dmb> hmm
[01:40] <theblock_> is there a way to set svideo out for a tv monitor?
[01:40] <dmb> gtk-visual boy crashes
[01:40] <dmb> the one that is included in ubuntu
[01:41] <vn> Pelo: hehe I do know, just it was called beryl :p  and yea I understood about the default install
[01:41] <Benalex> digitori: kelsin : I have a gmail account, but I still like hotmail, because its my first email since 15 years
[01:41] <digitori> thinman1189:  i just got a message from hotmail servers that they want to empty my pockets.
[01:41] <chimp> Jordan, got my sound working, thanks man that was paining me for quite a while, i knew there must be an easy way to sort that out, otherwise ubuntu would be farrr to dependent on internet access to function
[01:41] <vn> I have an ATI card, should I use fglrx?
[01:41] <Benalex> digitori: look at channel log... I said it works :)
[01:41] <storywarden> jordan_u: any thoughts on the routing issue?
[01:41] <digitori> :Benalex: its your choice, you have that right dude.
[01:41] <emma> why would my sound just stop working? also totem wont work anymore?
[01:41] <Tech-Mike> sup peeps, why when i go into 'gnome-session-properties' and try to add awn my settings dont save
[01:42] <digitori> Benalex: should it have been smtp rather than smtpd?
[01:42] <Pelo> vn,  boot the recovery mode ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then redetect your card and when indoubt leave the default answer to questions,  boot back your desktop and then goto , menu > system > prefs> appearance last tab for the desktop effect ( compiz-fusion) for further help on this ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:42] <h1st0> kelsin: do you know how to grow a window?  I've tried C^a + but its not working
[01:42] <Jordan_U> storywarden, It's bizarre, I can't think of any good reason for that to happen :s
[01:42] <thinman1189> digitori: how so and why?
[01:42] <Benalex> digitori: besides gmail web interface insisting to use conversation technique which I don;t like
[01:43] <homeskillit> [   16.221318] PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 8 of bridge 0000:00:05.0     does anyone know what that is?
[01:43] <SmoothOp> vn: buy an nvidia
[01:43] <digitori> Benalex: lol you got it to work....Ive got a problem with it.
[01:43] <condon> corruptionoflulz: seems to be working, will let you know how it turns out.
[01:43] <vn> Pelo: ok, thanks, I'm doing that
[01:43] <Pelo> homeskillit,  do a forum search fo rthe error msg  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:43] <jrib> Tech-Mike: is there any output when you run: find ~/.local ~/.config/ ! -user $USER
[01:43] <Benalex> digitori: no, I missed to install hotway pack
[01:43] <corruptionoflulz> condon: cool.
[01:43] <digitori> I think I will stick to my service providers secure encrypted pop and smtp
[01:43] <cornell> Howdy...  I'm trying to setup an ldap server that my workstations (linux and windows) and samba can use for authentication...  I'm using openLDAP.  I can't seem to get a handle on just what I have to do to create a user.  I find lots of documents discussing the nuts and bolts of ldap, about attributes and values, and nothing that says that a user is set up this way, with these attributes.  I've installed phpldapadmin, which seems to b
[01:43] <digitori> ah hotway
[01:43] <adamonline45> does anyone know how to get my wireless to connect to an access point?
[01:44] <Benalex> digitori: but i still can see junk folder... anyway this is fair enough for me
[01:44] <storywarden> jordan_u:  do you think it possible that the router is perhaps being stupid and blocking a portion of the connection?
[01:44] <vn> should I use framebuffer?
[01:44] <cornell> (blimey, that was long.... )
[01:44] <digitori> Benalex: cool im happy your problem  is sorted
[01:44] <storywarden> we found another site he couldn't get to (dd-wrt.com - the firmware we're using on the router)
[01:44] <Benalex> digitori: I really appreciate you help , what problem do you have?
[01:44] <zdh> digitori: ok gmail works with thunderbird
[01:44] <Pelo> cornell,  long and possibly out of the reach of this channel,  #samba #networking or ##linux might be more help
[01:45] <iwizzard> Annyone using gpodder? can you subscribe to http://reason.tv/rss/ (the video podcast) ?
[01:45] <kelsin> h1st0: you can do Ctrl-A : then type "resize +10" to grow by 10, and probably bind that to a key
[01:45] <Jordan_U> storywarden, I don't see why it would only apply to that one machine running Ubuntu, but in the absence of any other good explanation anything is possible
[01:45] <kelsin> h1st0: don't know if that's bound by default
[01:45] <Pelo> iwizzard, you want a ban ?
[01:45] <kakoonia> hey, i installed the latest alsa driver, and now i cant hear a thing, i changed the default of alsa mixer (mute), what could be the problem?
[01:45] <digitori> Benalex: I worked my way through the instructions for hotway etc but to no avail
[01:45] <cornell> K, thought I'd start here, thanks Pelo.
[01:45] <h1st0> kelsin: ty thank you.
[01:45] <Pelo> !sound | kakoonia
[01:45] <ubotu> kakoonia: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:46] <h1st0> kelsin: aparently its default in gentoo but not ubuntu
[01:46] <digitori> zdh: I think I may take up gmail....its one more step away from MS, even if its just for my junk sign ups etc
[01:46] <Benalex> digitori: double check email settings in evolution
[01:46] <mikecables> corruptionoflulz: Would you mind giving me that Linux command, once again, to roll back my video drivers?
[01:46] <iwizzard> Pelo: what rule did I break?
[01:46] <digitori> Benalex: ok I wanna see this work anyhow
[01:46] <kelsin> h1st0: makes sense, a lot of gentoo's default settings are nice
[01:46] <iwizzard> having a problem, cant subscibe to a spesific rss feed
[01:47] <zdh> digitori: its really easy lol, thunderbird even have a profile ready named gmail :p all you need to do is enabled pop in your gmail profile
[01:47] <Pelo> iwizzard, looked suspiciously like spamming, if you have a reason for posting htat link I suggest you state it along with the request
[01:47] <h1st0> kelsin: yeah default in there according to the howto was C^a + increased by 3 lines
[01:47] <froggy__> Warning: Could not find configuration file
[01:47] <froggy__> Please copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[01:47] <Benalex> digitori: is there an error message or something?
[01:47] <cornell> Pelo:  I'd say  "I understand" but apparently, I don't understand how to do that ;-(
[01:47] <Pelo> cornell, donT' worry about it
[01:47] <Tech-Mike>  jrib find ~/.local ~/.config/ ! -user $USER
[01:47] <Tech-Mike> oops
[01:47] <cornell> K
[01:48] <htmldotcom> Im back
[01:48] <Tech-Mike> jrib /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart
[01:48] <htmldotcom> anyone there who was helping my out before?
[01:48] <digitori> Benalex: all settings correct
[01:48] <froggy__> I don't know what do do I am trying to install my ati and I am following instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-02330ccb580b6a9411d32bf617cc5a82116ba6b9
[01:48] <froggy__> and I get an error from terminal when I type sudo aticonfig --initial
[01:49] <jrib> Tech-Mike: yes, you need to fix that.  Make sure you do not run gui apps with sudo.  To fix this, as your user, do: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.config
[01:49] <miles8> Pelo: My Graphics problems have gone away by creating a new user, so its something with my old profile..oddly enough
[01:49] <Benalex> digitori: tell me ... can you access your hotmail account from outlook??... this option is not available for new accounts?
[01:49] <froggy__> I get a Could not find configuration file please copy configuration file template to /etc/x11
[01:49] <digitori> Benalex: I wouldnt use outlook if i was paid short of a thousand bucks
[01:50] <Pelo> miles8, that seems very likely,  possibly someting in your /home fiolder saved as a setting
[01:50] <Tech-Mike> why is it like that in the first place - i didnt have that prob with 7.04...i dont think
[01:50] <Pelo> froggy__, what app is this ?
[01:50] <digitori> Benalex: thanx, im gonna stick with my secure provider
[01:50] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:50] <froggy__> um.. app...
[01:50] <corruptionoflulz> mikecables: just select all the defaults, and that should bring you back to the defaults, with no restricted drivers.
[01:50] <miles8> Pelo: Yup, now I have to decide what is faster, figure it out or just stick with a new profile, I could copy over my firefox profile, thats really most of it when I think about it
[01:50] <digitori> Benalex: its quite amuzing, I helped you and cant get it myself lol
[01:50] <mikecables> Thanks alot.  I appreciate it.
[01:51] <jrib> Tech-Mike: usually due to gui apps being run as sudo
[01:51] <froggy__> sudo aticonfig
[01:51] <froggy__> ?
[01:51] <sunilonln> LjL: thanks, exiv2 works beautifully
[01:51] <jrib> Tech-Mike: (you are not supposed to do that)
[01:51] <Benalex> digitori: What I am trying to say is HTTP access to hotmail account is not for everyone... may be your settings is fine.. but ur account is not http enabled
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo
[01:51] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[01:51] <Pelo> miles8, just copy the stuff over that you need, and you'll still be able to try to figure out the problem at your leasure if you keep the old profile around
[01:52] <digitori> hyper text transport protocol is used
[01:52] <froggy__> Pelo, I'm trying to get my ati card working... I need to have 3d graphics and stuff for a game
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | froggy__
[01:52] <ubotu> froggy__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:52] <digitori> or correctly transfer protocol
[01:52] <Pelo> froggy__, doesn't the ati card work with afglx or someting ?
[01:53] <mikeooo> how do i enable direct rendering intel x3100
[01:53] <mikeooo> glxgears gets like 1fps right now
[01:53] <froggy__> Ubuto, I am there
[01:53] <digitori> froggy: wow you still trying that dude...you got those marbles of steel dude
[01:53] <froggy__> that's where I am getting the error
[01:53] <Fezzler> Is there a Ubuntu program that can edit MPEG4 video?
[01:53] <crdlb> mikeooo: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:53] <Pelo> froggy__, ubotu is a bot
[01:53] <htmldotcom> oh, curses
[01:53] <h1st0> mikeooo: if glxgears is working then direct rendering should be.
[01:53] <ryna> Whenever I start counter-strike source all it does is shows the picture of the two police officers and then it crashes. please help
[01:53] <froggy__> afgix? it's a radeon express 200
[01:53] <Pelo> Fezzler, try avidemux
[01:53] <h1st0> mikeooo: try glxinfo | grep render
[01:54] <froggy__> still trying
[01:54] <Pelo> froggy__, just ignomre me
[01:54] <Tech-Mike> jrib yes but somtimes it is easier to move things around with sudo nautilus :-P
[01:54] <froggy__> I'm not ignoring
[01:54] <jrib> Tech-Mike: gksudo nautilus
[01:54] <mikeooo> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:54] <h1st0> ryna: did you install the tahoma.ttf font?
[01:54] <cythrawll> ok I have an old pos laptop in which I have ubuntu 7.10 installed
[01:54] <h1st0> mikeooo: alright you'll need proper drivers for your card
[01:55] <cythrawll> I don't get a pretty grub menu on startup
[01:55] <mikeooo> where can i get them?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: what step are you getting hung up on?
[01:55] <vn> how can I change my keyboard layout used by X's login screen?
[01:55] <h1st0> nvidia mikeooo, mikeooo Read the message from ubotu.
[01:55] <vn> I can't do my "é"
[01:55] <cythrawll> inf act I don't get anything until the login menu pops up
[01:55] <cythrawll> any ideas?
[01:55] <mikeooo> its intel gma
[01:55] <mikeooo> i thought those were open source and included
[01:55] <mikeooo> gma 965
[01:55] <ryna> h1st0, no i didnt, how do i do that?
[01:55] <crdlb> mikeooo: please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:55] <Pelo> cythrawll,  is ubuntu the only os on it ?
[01:55] <crdlb> !pastebin
[01:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:55] <cythrawll> Pelo, yes
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: where are you getting stuck?
[01:56] <h1st0> ryna: you need to get it off of your windows install and put it in /home/ryna/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts/
[01:56] <Pelo> cythrawll,  then hit the esc key right after the bios stuff is done and you'll get the menu
[01:56] <h1st0> ryna: the better option would be to follow the directions on wine's appdb
[01:56] <ryna> h1st0, k thanks man i appreciate it.
[01:56] <Tech-Mike> jrib when runnin that command u gave i get 'chown: missing operand after 'tech-Mike:~/.config'
[01:56] <froggy__> Indy, I'm getting stuck at 'sudo aticonfig --initial'
[01:56] <cythrawll> Pelo, what about the ubuntu load screen?
[01:56] <h1st0> appdb ryna, ryna Read the message from ubotu.
[01:56] <Pelo> cythrawll, dont, know about that
[01:56] <cythrawll> like the lil progress bar while it boots?
[01:57] <cythrawll> it's just straigt not there
[01:57] <jrib> Tech-Mike: you forgot a space
[01:57] <Pelo> cythrawll, do you realy need it ?
[01:57] <adamonline45> what does it mean when a package says it cannot be authenticated?
[01:57] <cythrawll> I wouldn't but the person who is using it will :)
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: ok, whats it doing... what error.
[01:57] <SpeakerMania> What is the bets free flash suites? I am looking to amke a flash layout for my web site.
[01:57] <froggy__> Indy, it is after I type depmod -a then I type sudo aticonfig --initial
[01:57] <cythrawll> she'll all be like: wtf my computer's  broken
[01:57] <Pelo> adamonline45, usualy it's a package from a third party repos, if you know the repos and put it in yourself, donT' worry about it
[01:57]  * digitori is focused on froggy and IndyGunFreak
[01:57] <mikeooo> crdlb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46648/
[01:57] <ryna> h1st0, i didnt get a message from, ubotu
[01:57] <Tech-Mike> oops
[01:58] <nalpha> anyone success install CalemEAM on Ubuntu 7.10?
[01:58] <froggy__> indy, it says vWarning: Could not find configuration file
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: are you using gutsy?
[01:58] <h1st0> ryna: yeah i'm sry bout that hold on
[01:58] <h1st0> !appdb | ryna
[01:58] <adamonline45> Pelo: Thank you
[01:58] <ubotu> ryna: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:58] <ryna> h1st0, k sorry
[01:58] <Pelo> !who | cythrawll
[01:58] <ubotu> cythrawll: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:58] <mattbot> In the linux file structure, where would one put a script?
[01:58] <Tech-Mike> jrib - will i get this prob again if i sudo an app
[01:58] <froggy__> and lease copy configuration file template to /etc/X11
[01:58] <LjL> mattbot: /usr/local/bin most likely
[01:58] <cythrawll> Pelo, apologies
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: are you using gutsy?
[01:58] <SavageOne> hey guys
[01:58] <Pelo> cythrawll, I probabaly just missed half of wht you said that is all
[01:58] <SavageOne> I'm having trouble w/ apt-get
[01:59] <mattbot> LjL, wouldn't you just put a link to that script there?
[01:59] <froggy__> v 7.1
[01:59] <LjL> mattbot: normally no
[01:59] <froggy__> is that gutsy?
[01:59]  * emgent heya
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: you didn't see this right above those insructions.....   You now have to configure xorg to use your graphic card. The aticonfig tool, provided with the driver, will do that for you (aticonfig does not seem to work for Gutsy Gibbons):
[01:59] <smooker_> hey , what happens if i install xubuntu-desktop at the existing ubuntu with synaptic ?
[01:59] <Pelo> SavageOne, better question please
[01:59] <cythrawll> Pelo, all I said was that I don't need it, but the person who uses the laptop will
[01:59] <LjL> mattbot: of course you can just keep the script inside your home if only you need to use it
[01:59] <robdig> SavageOne: what is it doing (or not)?
[01:59] <cythrawll> Pelo, the screen goes blank for more than a few seconds and she'll think it's broke
[01:59] <kelsin> smooker_: you get the xubuntu packages added and the option to go into a xfce session from the login screen
[01:59] <kelsin> smooker_: nothing bad
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: 7.10= Gutsy
[01:59] <theblock> is there a driver for nvidia geforce4 tv out?
[01:59] <mikeooo> is there a guide for installing the newest intel gma965 x3100 graphics drivers?
[01:59] <Pelo> smooker_,  your menu will have more option and you'll have the choice to boot xcfe from the login screen
[01:59] <SavageOne> I'm reading instructions for installing lcdproc, so basicallt I'm trying "sudo apt-get install lcdproc" which is what every set of instructions I've found says to do, and it's basically saying the package doesn't exist....  also if I do a "sudo apt-cache search lcdproc" it finds nothing
[02:00] <cythrawll> Pelo, and we are talking a few minutes until the login screen appears
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> theblock: i think so... not 100% sue though.
[02:00] <theblock> cuz i cant find any
[02:00] <SavageOne> so that would lead me to believe the package doesn't exist, but everyone's saying it doesn't.  I tried "sudo apt-get update" but it goes really quick
[02:00] <Pelo> cythrawll, what did you do to get it this away ?
[02:00] <crdlb> mikeooo: that's not necessary or recommended
[02:00] <smooker_> mm i thout its installing other os :P
[02:00] <SavageOne> maybe my apt-get database is old or whatever but I don't know any other way of udating it other then that
[02:00] <crdlb> mikeooo: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <robdig> SavageOne: go to system->administration->software sources and make sure that all of the repos are checked
[02:01] <froggy__> what does "You now have to configure xorg to use your graphic card. The aticonfig tool, provided with the driver, will do that for you (aticonfig does not seem to work for Gutsy Gibbons):" mean???????
[02:01] <Pelo> SavageOne, check in synaptic enable multiverse and backport , and try again
[02:01] <SavageOne> robdig: I'm working from command line
[02:01] <LjL> it's in universe actually
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: its self explanatory, aticonfig doesn't work with gutsy, what part of it do you not understand?
[02:01] <SavageOne> via putty
[02:01] <SavageOne> ssh
[02:01] <Tech-Mike> jrib - in the console after running 'gnome-session-properties' and adding awn...i get 'could not save /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart/avant-window-navigator.desktop file'
[02:01] <smooker_> brb all
[02:01] <cythrawll> Pelo, install ubuntu
[02:01] <mattbot> LjL, Let me define my question a little better. I have a 4 File ruby script that I wrote for a school project. I want to put a folder with those 4 files somewhere and then link to the main file in /usr/bin. Where would I put the source?
[02:01] <Pelo> cythrawll, that is all you did ?
[02:01] <LjL> SavageOne: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment universe (in gutsy, gutsy-updates and gutsy-security), then sudo apt-get update
[02:01]  * IndyGunFreak laughs at Pelo's disbelief
[02:01] <cythrawll> Pelo, the live cd worked fine, after boot after initial install it has been broke
[02:01] <froggy__> so how do I install 3d graphics and rendering??
[02:01] <Pelo> cythrawll,  what's this machine like ? cpu  mem , etc ?
[02:01] <robdig> SavageOne: then edit /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure the repos are un-commented
[02:01] <SavageOne> ahhh Ljl thanks!
[02:02] <storywarden> does anyone know the command to change the mac(hardware) address of your pc's NIC?
[02:02] <matt__> i recently[just now] dist-upgraded my machine to hardy hebron
[02:02] <Pelo> froggy__, did you check the forum on this ?
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: that i really don't know.
[02:02] <kelsin> mattbot: normall you put all ruby class files in the ruby library directories (don't know where those are atm) then put a file that runs the program (shell script, or simple ruby script that starts some classes) in /usr/local/bin
[02:02]  * robdig thinks LjL has fast fingers :)
[02:02] <Benalex> storywarden: I think this is in the hardware itself and cannot be changed
[02:02] <digitori> how does froggy configure his ati if aticonfig doesnt work
[02:03] <kelsin> mattbot: and you should use /usr/local/bin not /usr/bin to not clash with anything from apt by accident
[02:03] <mikeooo> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46649/
[02:03] <LjL> mattbot: leave /usr/bin alone, you're not supposed to touch that. you could put the "executable" script in /usr/local/bin, and the "library" scripts in /usr/local/lib. if that's the way they're modularized.
[02:03] <cythrawll> Pelo, it's an old pos, Pentium 4 2.4 GHZ, memory is 337504 kb
[02:03] <doseryder> hello, anyone here using gtkpod with ipod nano (the latest version)
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: i'd suggest an Nvidia card, driver takes all of about 5min
[02:03] <skyfalcon866> whats recovering jorunal mean
[02:03] <froggy__> how do you check a forum???
[02:03] <cythrawll> Pelo, it's a dell inspiron 1100 laptop
[02:03] <LjL> !traffic
[02:03] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[02:03] <worthawholebean> Help! I'm trapped in 1152x864!
[02:03] <matt__> my nvidia restricted module based Xconfig is crashing
[02:03] <SavageOne> Ljl:  I think I found the problem, my sources.list file has only one line in it that reads:  deb file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./
[02:03] <mattbot> thank you LjL and kelsin
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: http://www.ubuntuforums.com and there's a search button
[02:03] <SavageOne> this is a kubuntu install from the linuxmce dvd
[02:03] <Pelo> cythrawll,  get the alternate install cd,  it is usualy kinder during the install process , if something went wrong it wont, with that one
[02:03] <froggy__> what should I search for?
[02:03] <LjL> SavageOne: then you're using a local mirror for your APT... are you that system's administrator? did you install it?
[02:04] <SavageOne> that explains why but that's ridiculous I dunno what should be in there on a normal system atm
[02:04] <Tech-Mike> jrib ... ?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> froggy__: sorry, i can't really hold your hand and teach you how to search.
[02:04] <worthawholebean> I've got a radeon x1600 with the fglrx driver, but I can't change my resolution.
[02:04] <h1st0> appdb ryna, ryna Read the private message from ubotu.
[02:04] <tarelerulz> I am have a problem getting my wireless card working  and my lan port seem to have the same problem .   they both seem to time out on web pages.  The wireless I have been working on for day so I am lost as to what I need to do ,but the wirless  I would like to know way it is slow.
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> i would suggest, ATI Gutsy Gibbon (cardmodel) problem..
[02:04] <crdlb> mikeooo: ok you're missing a few lines, so do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:04] <cythrawll> Pelo, reinstallation is kinda wanted to avoid... I can't just configure some option in grub?
[02:04] <SavageOne> naw I'm not the admin it's just a box I'm using for home media, testing this linuxmce stuff out
[02:04] <froggy__> thanks
[02:04] <mikeooo> should i manually select the intel driver?
[02:04] <SavageOne> so basically by default it's neutered not to see the normal ubuntu stuff
[02:04] <SavageOne> how do I get it to actually be searching packages hehe
[02:04] <mikeooo> and i have to kill x before i do that right?
[02:04] <Pelo> cythrawll, not sure , when the coomp is booted , does it work properly ?
[02:05] <kelsin> mattbot: in ruby the $: variable stores the load path and it look slike ruby looks in /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8 if you're on gutsy
[02:05] <cythrawll> Pelo, coomp?
[02:05] <Benalex> cythrawll: What is it with grub?
[02:05] <LjL> SavageOne, the guy who installed it put some sort of local APT repository on it... if it's got a working internet connection, you can just replace the sources.list with a standard one
[02:05] <LjL> !easysource > SavageOne    (SavageOne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:05] <Pelo> cythrawll, computer
[02:05] <Towerblock> does anyone have time to give a noob some   pointers on how to get sound working on an HP 9000 series laptop under gutsy?
[02:05] <Pelo> cythrawll, can you pastebing your /boot/grub/menu.lst file ?
[02:05] <cythrawll> Benalex, I don't get the grub menu or the ubuntu load status screen.... everything is blank until the login screen appears
[02:05] <SavageOne> thanks!
[02:05] <mattbot> thanks again kelsin
[02:06] <bazhang_> !sound | Towerblock
[02:06] <ubotu> Towerblock: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:06] <Pelo> !sound > Towerblock check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:06] <doseryder>  hello, anyone here using gtkpod with ipod nano (the latest version)?
[02:06] <cythrawll> Pelo... uhhh, hold on...
[02:06] <doseryder> !info gtkpod
[02:06] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.10-2 (gutsy), package size 695 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[02:06] <SavageOne> how can I figure out which version of ubuntu I'm running
[02:06] <SavageOne> without x
[02:06] <LjL> !version > SavageOne    (SavageOne, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:06] <h1st0> SavageOne: cat /etc/ver
[02:06] <Benalex> cythrawll: well this is kinda weird, but as a first step... sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove quite from ubuntu kernel line
[02:06] <h1st0> SavageOne: cat /etc/issue
[02:06] <htmldotcom> the perl scripting is really nice.
[02:07] <Towerblock> hi ubotu alsa is selected ive been reading most of those threads all day
[02:07] <Pelo> !ubotu | Towerblock
[02:07] <jcsteele> after doing a manual configuration of my wireless settings, i can't get network-manager to work anymore for selecting wireless.
[02:07] <ubotu> Towerblock: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:07] <cythrawll> Benalex, sure hold on let me try that
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> Towerblock: whats your sound device?
[02:07] <doseryder> !ubotu gtkpod
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <LjL> !msgthebot > doseryder    (doseryder, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:08] <Benalex> cythrawll: this will remove the splash so you can see whats behind... and check if splash keyword is at the end of the line
[02:08] <SavageOne> thanks guys
[02:08] <jcsteele> anyone know how i can get the "enable roaming" option to appear in the manual configuration screen for my wireless device?
[02:08] <SavageOne> worked like a charm
[02:09] <nalpha> Anyone knows this error ??? PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[28000] [1045] Access denied for user 'calemeam'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ??? Please somebody say something to me
[02:09] <cythrawll> Benalex, do I need to do anything after editing the file?
[02:09] <Benalex> yes, save then reboot
[02:09] <mikeooo> crdlb: that didn't fix anything
[02:09] <mikeooo> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Towerblock: what sound device do you have?
[02:09] <Pelo> Gnight folks
[02:10] <kelsin> nalpha: whatever software you're using is failing to connect to mysql due to access restrictions
[02:10] <mikeooo> how do i enable direct rendering on intel gma965 x3100
[02:10] <Benalex> jcsteele: click system>>administrator>>Network, and select your wireless connection click properties and check the box "enable roaming"
[02:12] <adamonline45> Can anyone help me out? If I do iwconfig, I can see my wlan0.  If I do ifup wlan0, it says 'ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0'.  What can I doooo?
[02:12] <sexcopter> hi, i have a question. now that we have an actual choice, would you choose using ntfs over fat for a partition to be used by ubuntu and windows, or stick to the good old fat?
[02:13] <Towerblock> sorry indy u still there?
[02:13] <Tech-Mike> jrib - u there man?
[02:13] <LjL> sexcopter: i'd use ext3 :)
[02:13] <kelsin> adamonline45: do you have wlan0 config lines in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:13] <sexcopter> LjL, and how would you use that in windows?
[02:13] <Towerblock> my sound card is Intel Corporation 82801H
[02:13] <DM|> conky is starting to piss me off lol.. it FLICKERS when compiz is on. no matter what i do ( not conky itself ) but makes compiz windows flicker where the conky lies beneth.
[02:13] <Benalex> sexcopter: I suggest NTFS... more secure than fat
[02:13] <riotkittie> sexcopter: i can't imagine wanting to use fat over ntfs in such a situation. although...
[02:14] <LjL> sexcopter: plenty of ways, just google "ext2 windows" and "ext3 windows" (ext2 drivers work, as well).
[02:14] <LjL> !ext3 > sexcopter    (sexcopter, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> sexcopter: I use NTFS for the Windows system itself, but put all user data on ext3.
[02:14] <htmldotcom> I have some problems with gdm, can someone help?
[02:14] <sexcopter> basically, i have a fat partition from ye olde times, and just wondering if it's worth changing it to ntfs
[02:14] <adamonline45> kelsin: no, but I don't have eht0 in there either, and it works fine.  Do you know the syntax of what I should add?
[02:14] <riotkittie> htmldotcom: tell us your problems, and find out, buddy.
[02:14] <htmldotcom> I tried installing, but its the newest version of gdm.
[02:14] <Benalex> sexcopter: you can use ext3(linux files system) with windows using Ext2IFS utility , but it is not working 100%
[02:15] <htmldotcom> Well I tried installing KDE alongside with gnome by typing "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and it installed, but after that, gdm wont load
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> Benalex: what doesn't work about it for you?
[02:15] <kelsin> adamonline45: from the command line you should be able to just do "iwconfig wlan0 essid BLAH" then "dhclient wlan0" to bring it up as well, if you need examples for /etc/network/interfaces you can check out "man interfaces"
[02:15] <sexcopter> Benalex: I've also heard that that software isn't 100% safe with data
[02:15] <mikeooo> anyone know how to fix this?
[02:15] <DM|> mikeooo: fix what
[02:15] <adamonline45> kelsin: Do you know how I'd find the essid number?
[02:15] <riotkittie> htmldotcom: does kdm load?  does sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start  not bring it up?
[02:16] <mikeooo> mike@mike-linux-laptop:~$ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect mike@mike-linux-laptop:~$ grep -i aiglx /var/log/Xorg.0.log(==) AIGLX enabled (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[02:16] <htmldotcom> I didnt try loading kdm.
[02:16] <Benalex> sexcopter: No it is safe... but sometimes you won't be able to delete some files and have to reboot to linux to delete them , which of course may be forgotten and may get you in trouble ;)
[02:16] <kelsin> adamonline45: if you don't knwo the essid of the wireless router you're trying to connect to then there's a big problem
[02:16] <DM|> mikeooo ATI?
[02:16] <mikeooo> intel x3100 graphics
[02:16] <mikeooo> gma965
[02:16] <cythrawll> Benalex, no dice
[02:16] <DM|> mikeooo have you installed the driver?
[02:16] <mikeooo> i thought it was included
[02:16] <kelsin> adamonline45: you can type "iwlist wlan0 scan" to scan for newarby access points
[02:16] <Benalex> cythrawll: paste ur menu.lst in private please
[02:16] <mikeooo> if it isn't where can i find it and install it
[02:17] <mikeooo> running .22
[02:17] <htmldotcom> So you think I should try to run kdm?
[02:17] <mikeooo> .22-14
[02:17] <DM|> mikeooo for 3d? im not sure. should be in synaptic if that, but i dont know anything about intel gfx :( sorry
[02:17] <mikeooo> supposed to be supported by the kernel since .22
[02:17] <riotkittie> idunno. oh my kitchen is on fire. sorry. got to go.
[02:17] <htmldotcom> gdm definitely does not start. It just gives me a busy symbol that I can move around.
[02:18] <Benalex> sexcopter: what size is that fat partition?
[02:18] <htmldotcom> oh, dont call his partiton fat. :D
[02:18] <sexcopter> Benalex: it's currently 40gig, but i might be growing it by 15 or so some time soon
[02:19] <Benalex> htmldotcom: LoL...
[02:19] <htmldotcom> :p
[02:19] <Benalex> sexcopter: 40gigs partition???
[02:19] <mikeooo> xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[02:19] <Benalex> sexcopter: formated in FAT???... I don't think so
[02:19] <mikeooo> so how do i enable direct rendering
[02:19] <thedefender> how do i delete a load sequance
[02:19] <mikeooo> the driver intel is being used too in xorg.conf
[02:20] <sexcopter> Benalex: how come not?
[02:20] <Thorsten12> bye for now all
[02:21] <smooker_> someone pls help, im trying to install alsa drivers but after i run ./configure i got error "
[02:21] <smooker_> "The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist."
[02:21] <Benalex> sexcopter: well I can't recall what max size FAT fs could be... but I doubt it is 40 (forty gigs)
[02:21] <kelsin> Benalex: it can be much bigger since I assume sexcopter would be using FAT32
[02:21] <htmldotcom> lol sexcopter
[02:22] <sexcopter> oh yeah, this is vfat/fat32, i'm fairly sure
[02:22] <adamonline45> kelsin: Alright, I got my essid.  When I try to connect to is using iwconfig wlan0 essid the_essid, it says nothing, and naturally dhclient fails.
[02:22] <alyxander> question
[02:22] <alyxander> how do i fix
[02:22] <alyxander> The 'Manual' browser command has been chosen, but no command has been set.
[02:22] <alyxander> in pigin
[02:22] <kelsin> adamonline45: does it list an access point with essid when you just run "iwconfig" now?
[02:22] <digitori> fat 32 can be up to about 8 terrabytes
[02:23] <kelsin> adamonline45: and also what error with dhclient, just timeing out?
[02:23] <htmldotcom> anybody know how to solve a problem where gdm isnt loading? (im reasking, lol)
[02:23] <Benalex> sexcopter: anyway... since it is 40 gigs, move to NTFS... for more security and better space utilization
[02:23] <corruptionoflulz> condon: devede worked alright?
[02:23] <digitori> 8 terrabytes using cluster size 0f 32 KB
[02:23] <tds5016> anyone here manage to get wow to work with wine?
[02:24] <sexcopter> Benalex: okie doke, i'll see to it
[02:24] <sexcopter> thanks for all your help guys
[02:24] <kelsin> tds5016: what errors are you getting?
[02:24] <adamonline45> kelsin: Yeah, the dhclient just gets no dhcp offers.  iwconfig still says 'ESSID off/any', and access point is 'not-associated'...
[02:24] <h1st0> tds5016: many people have
[02:24] <Tech-Mike> can someone help: even after doing 'sudo chown $USER: ~/.config' i cannot change startup options (gnome-session-properties)
[02:24] <h1st0> !appdb > tds5016, tds5016 Read the private message from ubotu.
[02:24] <digitori> wow? windows Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans Adware wow?
[02:24] <alyxander> anyone
[02:24] <zdh> tds5016: google is your friend, or try the ubuntu forums, think there is atleast a thousand threads about that matter
[02:24] <kelsin> adamonline45: if the iwconfig commdn doesn't set the essid then I have no ideas, don't have a lot of exp with it since I use network manager 95% of the time
[02:24] <tds5016> yeah. I've tried to install it. for some reason it breaks. I'm going to start reinstalling.
[02:24] <h1st0> Tech-Mike: sudo chown $user:$group ~/.config
[02:25] <adamonline45> kelsin: alright, thanks anyway :)
[02:25] <Benalex> sexcopter: anytime :)
[02:25] <kelsin> tds5016: if you can copy from a windows drive
[02:25] <digitori> world of warcraft
[02:25] <sexcopter> one last question, i see there's this ext2ifs software, but is there software out there that can mount ext3 as ext3 and not ext2?
[02:25] <h1st0> tds5016: just follow the directions from appdb read the pm from ubotu
[02:25] <Tech-Mike> didnt work
[02:26] <h1st0> Tech-Mike: does the user own the file?
[02:26] <h1st0> Tech-Mike: ls -l
[02:26] <Tech-Mike> ls -l
[02:26] <Tech-Mike> oops
[02:26] <digitori> tds5016: you may wanna look here for wo with wine http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine
[02:27] <Tech-Mike> sudo chown $user:$group ~/.config
[02:27] <Tech-Mike> oops again
[02:27] <tarelerulz> Have any of you installed Ubuntu  7.10 on HP Pavillion dv6000 ? If so I would love to know how they got the wireless card working if it was broadcom .
[02:27] <h1st0> Tech-Mike: wlel not $user but yoru usersname
[02:27] <digitori> tds5016:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[02:27] <Tech-Mike> -rw-r--r--  1 tech-mike tech-mike  189 2007-11-29 19:38 autostart
[02:27] <h1st0> Tech-Mike: yeah
[02:27] <kelsin> tds5016: the past couple times I've installed it, the process has been copy the program files folder from a windows install, install wine from ubuntu repos, then run wine wow.exe with no issues, when you go searching for help check dates cause wine has improved a lot since the first wow on linux tutorials
[02:27] <h1st0> Tech-Mike: You should be able to edit that file
[02:28] <astro76> tarelerulz, which broadcomm do you have in there?
[02:28] <Benalex> sexcopter: it depends on your patience while searching google... my patience led me to Ext2IFS... go ahead and light me :)
[02:28] <mikeooo> anyone here using x3100 integrated graphics?
[02:28] <Tech-Mike> well gnome-session-properties sez i cant
[02:28] <digitori> nope
[02:28] <h1st0> Stupid PC speaker isn't working.  hrm :(
[02:28] <mikeooo> still no direct rendering
[02:28] <Tech-Mike> and it doesnt save my changes
[02:28] <mikeooo> this sucks
[02:28] <h1st0> Is there a module for pc speaker?
[02:28] <htmldotcom> tarelerul: I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 on HP Pavilion dv5000, and I can't get the wireless card to work, with tons of tweaking with ndiswrapper and everthing
[02:29] <zdh> h1st0: i think it depends on your soundcard
[02:29] <tarelerulz> Astro76 , I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) so says lspci
[02:29] <smooker_> someone pls help, im trying to install alsa drivers but after i run ./configure i got error ""The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist."
[02:29] <sexcopter> Benalex: hehe, i'm more inclined to just do the easy thing and use ntfs :s
[02:29] <Benalex> I recommended it from the first place :)
[02:29] <h1st0> zdh: yeah its loading a module but its not working.
[02:29] <h1st0> I'll have to reboot and see if this computer even beeps
[02:30] <kelsin> smooker_: is your sound card not included in the ubuntu alsa packages?
[02:30] <mattwoodyard> where is the failsafe xconfig configured?
[02:30] <smooker_> it was working after i installed ubuntu but now it doesnt work
[02:30] <Benalex> sexcopter: before ntfs-3g Fat was prefered... but now you can read/write to NTFS under ubuntu... so why not?
[02:30] <sexcopter> Benalex: indeed
[02:30] <digitori> mikeooo: isnt there anytyhing in the ubuntu forums about your graphics card?
[02:31] <smooker_> i know my sound card is nVidia MCP61 HDA, and its supported by Alsa drivers..
[02:31] <kelsin> the error you're getting is because you don't have the kernel headers installed, I would advise trying to solve the problem without installing alsa from source, that will most likely lead to further issues
[02:31] <mikeooo> yeah but other people have direct rendering enabled by default
[02:31] <tarelerulz> So any one have a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) wirelcard ?
[02:31] <htmldotcom> I can't get gdm to load, this is my error message: firmware_helper[4246]: main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:06:02.0' with driver '(unknown)'
[02:31] <mikeooo> and it isn't on mine for some reason
[02:31] <htmldotcom> [    54.000000] bcm43xx: Error MicroCode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[02:31] <tumbleweed__> hi! :)
[02:31] <smooker_> how do i get the kernel headers ?
[02:31] <secret> people know how use vulnerabilites of an apache 2.0 server wich have port 21/80/443 open ? msg me
[02:31] <h1st0> smooker_: install the kernel headers package
[02:31] <digitori> mikeooo: how did they manage to have direct rendering enalbled by default?
[02:32] <kelsin> smooker_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers
[02:32] <mikeooo> support for it is included
[02:32] <mikeooo> its supposed to work by default
[02:32] <h1st0> digitori: its not an ati or nvidia card
[02:32] <mikeooo> but mine doesnt
[02:32] <digitori> yeah i know its intel
[02:32] <tumbleweed__> I have a couple of problems. First off, when I boot up with my External drive plugged in, I get GRUB error 15 error, it has a single ext3 partition, and I believe the bootable flag is off, any help?
[02:32] <htmldotcom> identify xonybubba
[02:33] <htmldotcom> :o
[02:33] <Benalex> tumbleweed__: it says error 15 and describes it... :)
[02:33] <smooker_> after i install them. do i have to reboot ?
[02:33] <tumbleweed__> it doesn't
[02:34] <tumbleweed__> just says GRUB: Error 15
[02:34] <digitori> mikeooo:  tried this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:34] <tumbleweed__> when it had an ntfs partition on it, I got error 17
[02:34] <kelsin> smooker_: no, since you don't know any of this stuff I assure you that installing alsa from source will only lead to more headaches
[02:34] <skyfalcon866> +
[02:34] <nDevastator> anyone know of something that opens docx files ?
[02:34] <htmldotcom> identify podisc66
[02:35] <tumbleweed__> I believe this is because it is trying to boot off of my external drive instead of my internal drive, which is the drive that actually has ubuntu on it.
[02:35] <htmldotcom> i really suck at this nicserv stuff dont I.
[02:35] <smooker_> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 51 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:35] <smooker_> continue ?
[02:35] <digitori> nDevastator: someone mentioned that they can be unpacked in ubuntu...but as for running whats in them I dunno
[02:35] <Ashfire908> how do i set where crontab emails are sent?
[02:35] <Tech-Mike> i keep getting a 'could not save /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart/example.desktop file'  and autostart isnt a folder/directory its a file
[02:36] <nDevastator> digitori yea they open in the package manager
[02:36] <secret> I had a couple of security courses in my computer engeniering program and I want to try some things
[02:36] <mikeooo> still broken and my battery is about to die
[02:37] <htmldotcom> firmware_helper[4246]: main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:06:02.0' with driver '(unknown)'
[02:37] <mikeooo> figured i would be able to fix this in 3 hours
[02:37] <htmldotcom> [    54.000000] bcm43xx: Error MicroCode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[02:37] <mikeooo> guess i was wrong
[02:37] <tumbleweed__> secret : I don't think this is the place to ask about that :P
[02:37] <Tech-Mike> anybody?
[02:37] <Tech-Mike> anybody?
[02:37] <Tech-Mike> anybody?
[02:37] <digitori> My solution is to find every program that i can that takes me further from Microsoft
[02:37] <Tech-Mike> i keep getting a 'could not save /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart/example.desktop file'  and autostart isnt a folder/directory its a file
[02:37] <Tech-Mike> oops, sorry for the repeat
[02:37] <tumbleweed__> digitori : you want to open docx files?
[02:38] <htmldotcom> me too
[02:38] <tumbleweed__> hmmm
[02:38] <digitori> tumbleweed no NDevastator does
[02:38] <tumbleweed__> one sec, I believe I found something that could a while ago
[02:38] <tumbleweed__> ok
[02:38] <digitori> cool
[02:38] <Ashfire908> Tech-Mike, i've been getting that recently
[02:38] <nadis> why it is so quiet today?
[02:38] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 any ideas?
[02:38] <digitori> nDevastator did you get that? tumbleweed may have a solution for you
[02:39] <Pir8> Anyone here familiar with virtulabox?
[02:39] <fuzz> yeah
[02:39] <htmldotcom> yea
[02:39] <Thorsten11> yeah
[02:39] <Ashfire908> Tech-Mike, nope. if you find a fix tell me :)
[02:39] <mavric200> vb yes
[02:39] <mavric200> works great
[02:39] <Pir8> Is there anyway for me to have Virtualbox get an ip address from the router?
[02:39] <tumbleweed__> nDevastator : I think this is what you want http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/blog/
[02:39] <israel>  /server irc.irchighway.net
[02:39] <fuzz> set it up as nat
[02:39] <fuzz> and it should work
[02:39] <nalpha> Anyone can look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46650/" and tell me what's the problem is
[02:39] <tumbleweed__> it should convert docx documents to something openoffice can read
[02:39] <Pir8> I do have it setup as a NAT for the Windows HOST OS
[02:39] <Pir8> but it always gets a 10.0.x.x. address
[02:40] <fuzz> inside windows it should just grab it from DHCP
[02:40] <tumbleweed__> tell me if that's not the right thing, nDevastator
[02:40] <fuzz> i had to do some crazy stuff when i set mine up
[02:40] <tumbleweed__> doh
[02:40] <Ashfire908> how do i set where crontab emails are sent?
[02:40] <fuzz> lemme see if i can find it
[02:40] <tumbleweed__> that's for office
[02:40] <tumbleweed__> one sec
[02:40] <smooker_> whats the other way to install Alsa ?
[02:40] <Pir8> fuzz much appreciated!
[02:40] <digitori> well goodnight goodmorning or happy lunch time depending on where you are...its 2.40 am here im off to bed
[02:41] <smooker_> Alsa*
[02:41] <tumbleweed__> nDevastator : here it is! http://thedailyblahblah.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/odf-docx-in-openoffice/
[02:41] <kelsin> nalpha: I would suggest contacting the CalemEAM support channels for that
[02:41] <htmldotcom> Someone help please, I get this error message when I try to start ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46651/
[02:41] <smooker_> huh 4.41 AM and my sound stil doesnt work :(
[02:41] <Baumer> I just installed ubuntu... and its doing the hardware beep when ever I backspace to far... etc... how do I turn that off
[02:42] <nDevastator> tumbleweed__ sounds like it excellent thanks ill check it out
[02:42] <tumbleweed__> no problem
[02:42] <Pir8> ok weird, my audio just stopped working :(
[02:42] <htmldotcom> Baumer: turn "system beep" volume to mute
[02:42] <tumbleweed__> htmldotcom : is your wireless internet working?
[02:42] <astro76> Baumer, System > Preferences > Sound
[02:42] <Tech-Mike> does /home/user/.config/autostart need to be a folder/directory or is it supposed to be a file?
[02:42] <astro76> Baumer, you can disable it in System Beep tab
[02:42] <Ashfire908> Tech-Mike, actually i think i get an error about that i can't open it
[02:42] <htmldotcom> No tumbleweed__, my wireless internet never worked with ubuntu
[02:43] <rafal> how to set LCD refresh rate
[02:43] <tumbleweed__> hmmm
[02:43] <tumbleweed__> ok
[02:43] <htmldotcom> why?
[02:43] <tumbleweed__> htmldotcom : that's just saying it can't load the hacked firmware for your wireless card
[02:43] <tumbleweed__> I have the same one
[02:43] <tumbleweed__> want me to tell you how to fix it?
[02:43] <Baumer> Thank you
[02:43] <htmldotcom> oh. thanks. I guess its not the right error.
[02:43] <htmldotcom> sure, id appreciate it.
[02:43] <nalpha> kelsin : okey thanx.. i try
[02:43] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 i get '** (gnome-session-properties:6169): WARNING **: Could not save /home/tech-mike/.config/autostart/bluetooth-applet.desktop file
[02:44] <DM|> Anyone know of a good and easy to configure music streamer "server" type of program
[02:44] <brdx> hello, can gparted resize a ntfs partition without losing any data?
[02:44] <Baumer> Ubuntu is pretty amazing... graphics... wireless card all work right out of the installation
[02:44] <kelsin> Ashfire908: you should be able to place a .forward file in the root home dir (/root/.forward) with an email in it, and root's cron email will go there, you can do the same for your user for your cron jobs
[02:44] <tumbleweed__> htmldotcom : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
[02:44] <Baumer> i'm impressed
[02:44] <Ashfire908> Tech-Mike, i DON'T know the answer.
[02:44] <htmldotcom> thanx~
[02:44] <theblock> anyone got geforce4 tv out to work w/ svideo to tv?
[02:44] <tumbleweed__> that's how I got mine working
[02:44] <tumbleweed__> np
[02:44] <scottybea> hello
[02:44] <kimberly> does anyone know how I would burn mp3's with serpentine?
[02:44] <cornell> Howdy...  I'm trying to setup an ldap server that my workstations (linux and windows) and samba can use for authentication...  I'm using openLDAP.  I can't seem to get a handle on just what I have to do to create a user.  I find lots of documents discussing the nuts and bolts of ldap, about attributes and values, and nothing that says that a user is set up this way, with these attributes.  I've installed phpldapadmin, which seems to b
[02:44] <transience> hey, i'm tyring to install beryl on ubuntu gutsy gibbon, but i can't find a good set of directions on it. can anyone help?
[02:44] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 i figured that when u told me to let u kniow if i find a fix
[02:44] <mavric200> kimberly: most burning aps burn mp3's as data
[02:45] <Pir8> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing.
[02:45] <tumbleweed__> I have a couple of problems. First off, when I boot up with my External drive plugged in, I get GRUB error 15 error, it has a single ext3 partition, and I believe the bootable flag is off, any help?
[02:45] <Ashfire908> kelsin: so like "echo me@annoymewithcron.jobs > ~/.forward"?
[02:45] <cornell> Sorry about that... never mind....   technical screw up... problem between keyboard and chair ;-)
[02:45] <rafal> help, how to set LCD refresh rate?
[02:45] <kelsin> transience: compiz fusion is installed on gutsy by default, you can try to turn visual effects on (and maybe start debugging after) in the Appearence menu
[02:45] <scottybea> hello, I try to edit my .bash_profile but any changes i put in there do not work
[02:45] <kelsin> Ashfire908: yeah
[02:45] <Ashfire908> kelsin, k
[02:45] <kimberly> mavric200, I get "Converting audio files failed."
[02:45] <Tech-Mike> anybody else in this channel know howto fix /home/user/.config/autostart (gnome-session-properties) prob?
[02:46] <kimberly> so it obviously is trying to convert the files
[02:46] <mavric200> kimberly: try k3b
[02:46] <nDevastator> tumbleweed__ http://www.sigmundvoid.com/?p=81 this is what i wanted i think
[02:46] <transience> is compiz fuzion the same as beryl?
[02:46] <kimberly> what the heck is the point of serpentine then?
[02:46] <kelsin> transience: beryl merged into the compiz fusion project
[02:46] <tumbleweed__> yup
[02:46] <vn> beryl and compiz fusioned to become compiz-fusion
[02:46] <tumbleweed__> that's the one
[02:46]  * mavric200 has never used serpentine
[02:46] <kimberly> serpentine is possibly the biggest piece of crap I have seen
[02:46] <brdx> hello, can gparted resize a ntfs partition without losing any data?
[02:46] <kimberly> ubuntu != easy
[02:46] <tumbleweed__> I read about it a while ago, but never used it, so you'll have to excuse me ;)
[02:46] <h1st0> my tty1 locked up is there a way to get it back?
[02:46] <scguy318> brdx: yes, but make sure to backup
[02:46] <kelsin> scottybea: what changes aren't happening? also just to double check are you closing your term and opening it again after saving .bash_profile?
[02:46] <mavric200> kimberly go on to repos and get k3b
[02:47] <brdx> thanks, scguy318
[02:47] <Pir8> yes k3b is great for burning anything and everything.
[02:47] <h1st0> Its not even showing that i'm logged in on it via who.  Just not sure how to restart it?
[02:47] <tumbleweed__> stupid custom kernel is taking ages to build
[02:47] <scottybea> well i added some simple alias's and there not working
[02:48] <kelsin> scottybea: to clarify, you did close and open the terminal again correct? Can you paste you .bash_profile in pastebin?
[02:48] <kelsin> !pastebin | scottybea
[02:48] <ubotu> scottybea: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:48] <Pir8> so is there a way to reload audio drivers somehow? any ideas on how I can troubleshoot my audio not working all of a sudden? The alternative is to restart.
[02:48] <h1st0> Pir8: you could reload the module
[02:48] <fuzz> restart your computer and it'll probably work
[02:48] <kelsin> Pir8: you can check system logs in /var/log and dmesg
[02:48] <h1st0> Pir8: or make sure stuff isn't muted with alsamixer
[02:48] <scottybea> pastebin ?
[02:49] <Pollman> I'm having trouble getting the Nvidia drivers enabled on my usb flash drive gutsy installation
[02:49] <kelsin> scottybea: ubotu (the bot) just explained it to you
[02:49] <Pir8> fuzz yes mostly that is the case, but its odd why it does so sometimes
[02:49] <scottybea> lol yea i know but how do i do it
[02:49] <Pollman> Does anyone have a bootable  flash drive installation of gutsy?
[02:49] <kelsin> scottybea: I would suggest clicking on the link, pasting the contents of your .bash_profile into the text window then clicking ok then pasteing the link to me in the channel here
[02:49] <scottybea> also kelsin can we have our own chat window?
[02:49] <scottybea> alright
[02:49] <h1st0> Pollman: what sort of trouble are you having?
[02:50] <kelsin> scottybea: no
[02:50] <kelsin> !pm | scottybea
[02:50] <ubotu> scottybea: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[02:50] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 i found a fix
[02:50] <smooker_> is it possible to load default audio settings which come with the cd ?
[02:50] <tumbleweed__> Pir8 : try ctrl+alt+backspace instead of restarting, it just restarts X, and may solve your problem, if not, you'll have to restart
[02:50] <Pir8> tumbleweed__,  indeed and I am trying to avoid having to do that too :)
[02:50] <tumbleweed__> heh
[02:50] <Pollman> h1ist0 I go to the desktop effects window and set them to full which enables them
[02:51] <tumbleweed__> well, if you do ctrl+alt+backspace, and it really IS your audio drivers, the sound still won't work, so try it and see
[02:51] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 rm ~/.config/autostart   ...then   mkdir ~/.config/autostart
[02:51] <tumbleweed__> that way we know what the problem is
[02:51] <Pollman> But I need to restart, and after I do that but it asks me to restart again
[02:51] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 it saved changes anyway - ima restart now to do a full test brb
[02:52] <wease|> kill -9
[02:52] <wease|> teehee
[02:52] <htmldotcom> I have a problem with Beryl and Ubuntu Desktop Effects, whenever I try to enable them, my screen just goes white and I can't see anything. Then I have to guess at where the box is to turn it off and do it without seeing anything. Anyone know what my problem it is?
[02:52] <scottybea> alright i pressed paste now what?
[02:52] <kelsin> scottybea: paste the link in here so I can see your .bash_profile
[02:52] <tumbleweed__> htmldotcom : don't use desktop effects?\
[02:52]  * tumbleweed__ shrugs
[02:52] <Pollman> hist0, do you have a usb flash drive installation working?
[02:52] <scottybea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46652/
[02:52] <scottybea> like that?
[02:53] <pianoboy3333> anybody know a program like photobooth for ubuntu?
[02:53] <dark_ninja> htmldotcom: what type of card do you have?
[02:53] <kelsin> scottybea: yes
[02:53] <htmldotcom> tumbleweed__: I like them? lol
[02:53] <bthornton> I've got two Gutsy machines networked via gigabit ethernet and I just tried copying large files between them.  As I was transferring, I popped open System Monitor to view the transfer rate.  I got about an average of 8.0 MB/s on the transfer.  Any ideas what the problem is?  I doubt if gigabit ethernet is suppsoed to be this slow...
[02:53] <wease|> pianoboy...its called gimp...learn it lobe it
[02:53] <wease|> *love
[02:53] <bthornton> oops... I should mention that this is a Samba transfer
[02:53] <bthornton> performed via Nautilus
[02:53] <htmldotcom> dark_ninja: I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M graphics card, and my configuration is the default for Ubuntu 7.04
[02:54] <htmldotcom> I didnt install any extra drivers, I mean
[02:54] <tumbleweed__> you might wanna install 'em then
[02:54] <tumbleweed__> and upgrade to 7.10
[02:54] <Pollman> Does anyone have a flash drive installation of gutsy?
[02:54] <scottybea> so what do you think?
[02:54] <wease|> tumbleweed, i concur
[02:54] <kelsin> scottybea: those aliases are fine, so after you saved the file did you open up a new terminal? so that bash loads in the new changes?
[02:54] <zdh> bthornton: try nfs or maybe an ftp insteed
[02:54] <Kornholijo> is it possible to use netboot thru wifi?
[02:54] <mavric200> funny how a older ver of ubuntu(6.06) my sound card works fine, but on the two newer versions it doesnt
[02:54] <htmldotcom> theres a restricted driver called ATI-3D or something, and its disabled by default, but I dont want to enable it because it might screw me up?
[02:54] <tumbleweed__> Kornholijo : no
[02:54] <Kornholijo> tumbleweed__: why
[02:54] <Tech-Mike> ashfire908 it worked
[02:55] <scottybea> yea i did
[02:55] <Ashfire908> Tech-Mike, k
[02:55] <tumbleweed__> I'm not sure on the specifics
[02:55] <scottybea> i actualy logged out and back in
[02:55] <h1st0> Anyone know how I can trouble shoot why my PC speaker isn't working in ubuntu?
[02:55] <tumbleweed__> I just know you're not able to
[02:55] <Kornholijo> what from?
[02:55] <wease|> 7.04 is not long support. 7.10 has more added
[02:55] <htmldotcom> I would get extra drivers, but I dont know anything about them.
[02:55] <tumbleweed__> I've tried :P
[02:55] <kelsin> bthornton: if it's two gutsy machines use scp on the command line, so you can transfer just with ssh
[02:55] <wease|> if you want long term, downgrade to 6.06
[02:55] <tumbleweed__> very few BIOSes support it, if any
[02:55] <bthornton> I should note that this is not a pure gigabit network--there are 100 Mbps devices hooked into the gigabit switch.  This won't down-throttle everything down to 100 Mbit, will it?
[02:55] <dark_ninja> htmldotcom: you can use synaptic to get the fglrx drivers
[02:55] <kelsin> bthornton: no
[02:55] <dark_ninja> they might help you
[02:55] <h1st0> wease|: or wait for the next version of ubuntu is lts
[02:56] <Kornholijo> tumbleweed__: pxe wifi?
[02:56] <wease|> gigabyte has an awesome linux BIOS
[02:56] <tumbleweed__> because there is little to no BIOS support for wifi itself
[02:56] <wease|> very handy
[02:56] <Pir8> well looks like ctrl+alt+backspace it is :(
[02:56] <zdh> bthornton: ofc it will down-throttle it to 100mbit :p
[02:56] <bthornton> kelsin: Doesn't that add in encrypt/decrypt overhead?
[02:56] <Kornholijo> tumbleweed__: aah ok
[02:56] <htmldotcom> fghrx? whats that?
[02:56] <kelsin> bthornton: it should still give you close to gigabit, I would assume much less overhead than nautilus / samba
[02:56] <scottybea> i also have a file named .bash_profile~ for some reason
[02:56] <kimberly> anyone else here have problems with serpentine?
[02:56] <vn> is ssh activated in gutsy by default?
[02:56] <kelsin> bthornton: we get gigabit transfer rates with it at work all the time, so the overhead would not transfer slower than 8 :)
[02:56] <Pollman> Does anyone have Gutsy installed on a flash drive with compiz-fusion enabled?
[02:56] <pianoboy3333> anybody know a program like photobooth for ubuntu?
[02:56] <h1st0> !anyone | kimberly
[02:57] <ubotu> kimberly: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:57] <tumbleweed__> vn : I believe so
[02:57] <kelsin> scottybea: that's due to emacs backup files, in a terminal can you type ". .bash_profile" from your home directory and see if the l alias is available?
[02:57] <h1st0> Pollman: what issue are you having with the nvidia drivers on the flash drive?
[02:57] <dark_ninja> they're ati's special linux drivers, though quite frankly right now you're better off either waiting for ati's drivers to get better or switching ot an intel or nvidia card
[02:57] <h1st0> Pollman: you should just be able to boot the flash drive and use the restricted manager to install them.
[02:57] <dark_ninja> ati + desktop effects = suck
[02:57] <kimberly> h1st0, I did ask that and merely got the response use k3b. Now I am sure it is fine and good but k3b DOES NOT integrate with my ubuntu desktop
[02:58] <tumbleweed__> pianoboy3333 : what is photobooth?
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> Would someone mind going to http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads and checking if the i386 dirrect download link works? All I get is a blank page.
[02:58] <Pollman> h1st0, It asks me to reboot after enabling them, but it doesn't enable them after, it just asks me to reboot again
[02:58] <Ashfire908> bthornton, make sure that the two computer can read/write that fast. a computer can send/recicve data faster than it can read/write
[02:58] <wease|> pianoboy needs to learn the strength of gimp
[02:58] <Kornholijo> tumbleweed__: would it be possible netinst to go thru wifi?
[02:58] <pianoboy3333> tumbleweed__: it's a program for macs that works with a web cam to take pics/video and you can also minipulate it
[02:58] <tumbleweed__> ah
[02:58] <tumbleweed__> yes
[02:58] <tumbleweed__> cheese
[02:58] <Ashfire908> bthornton, *can't
[02:58] <tumbleweed__> sudo apt-get install cheese
[02:58] <pianoboy3333> wease|: well, if you wanna do it in the program, gimp doesn't help
[02:58] <h1st0> Pollman: hrm... maybe changes aren't being written prior to the drive being unmounted?
[02:58] <htmldotcom> I would switch cards, but a)I have a laptop so it would be a pain   b)I really want desktop effects.
[02:58] <scottybea> it worked!
[02:59] <kimberly> bleh, I am gonna just boot into windows. Something like burning mp3's to a cd should not require this much effort.
[02:59] <tumbleweed__> Kornholijo : perhaps, I've never tried, but if your wifi card works out of the box you may be able to
[02:59] <scottybea> but whydid i have to do that
[02:59] <kelsin> kimberly: I would try brasero or gnome-baker then :)
[02:59] <bthornton> Ashfire908: yeah I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out.  These are SATA drivers, however, so I didn't think they'd be THAT much of a bottleneck.
[02:59] <Flannel> Odd-rationale: thats because its some silly javascript redirect: http://us-ca.cdimages.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu-7.10-i386.iso is a real direct link
[02:59] <Pollman> h1st0, I thought of that, but it saves the change like desktop backgrounds and other stuff
[02:59] <h1st0> htmldotcom: what type of card do you have?
[02:59] <scottybea> today
[02:59] <astro76> scottybea, Ubuntu uses .profile not .bash_profile
[02:59] <kelsin> scottybea: so for some reason your bash is not reading .bash_profile on startup
[02:59] <Kornholijo> tumbleweed__: i got ipw2200bg  :P
[02:59] <h1st0> Pollman: is / mabye read only? and /home isn't?
[02:59] <htmldotcom> h1st0: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[02:59] <scottybea> so how do i fix it
[02:59] <tumbleweed__> you can try and see, then
[02:59] <kelsin> scottybea: there you go :) from astro76 lol put it in .profile
[02:59] <h1st0> !ati > htmldotcom, htmldotcom Read the private message from ubotu.
[02:59] <tumbleweed__> it's quite possible
[02:59] <Kornholijo> ty
[02:59] <scottybea> nice!
[02:59] <scottybea> thank you all for your help
[02:59] <Odd-rationale> Flannel: Thanks!
[02:59] <kelsin> scottybea: and that's why we don't use private messages lol
[02:59] <scottybea> iv been tryin at this for so long
[03:00] <astro76> scottybea, no prob ;)
[03:00] <Pollman> h1st0, / being the root of the drive?
[03:00] <h1st0> scottybea: just cp .bash_profile .profile
[03:00] <scottybea> lol ill try
[03:00] <h1st0> Pollman: yeah like maybe the /home folders are the only ones that are writable.
[03:00] <Ashfire908> bthornton, rsync is a very nice file copying program. you could try that.
[03:01] <smooker_> OMG! i found the problem with my sound card!! when i boot, if i choose Ubuntu386 sound not work, if i choose Ubuntu (generic) sound works ! xD
[03:01] <krammer> what does it take atleast 20 seconds to open the terminal any suggestions?
[03:01] <htmldotcom> thx h1st0
[03:01] <jimmygoon> Any MoBlock experts around?
[03:01] <Pollman> h1st0, hm do you know where the nvidia restricted drivers are saved?
[03:01] <smooker_> whats the difference between 386 and generic ?
[03:01] <scottybea> it didnt work the cp move
[03:01] <h1st0> Pollman: wel there are kernel modules that are installed but not sure where they are going.
[03:02] <kelsin> scottybea: well I put all of my aliases in .bashrc so you can try that as well... my .bash_profile just loads .bashrc and .profile
[03:02] <h1st0> smooker_: the optimization for cpu 386 version is kind of obsolete atm. as generic will work
[03:02] <Pollman> h1st0, do you have gutsy running on a pendrive?
[03:02] <astro76> smooker_, Ubuntu has been transitioning to everyone using generic
[03:02] <dark_ninja> kernel modules for nvidia go to /lib/modules/-current kernel vers-
[03:02] <htmldotcom> Pollman: I dont have now, but I have had ubuntu on a flash drive in the past, whats your question?
[03:02] <scottybea> lets see what i have in .profile
[03:03] <chimp> At the minute when i use my laptop and close the screen, it goes into some form of hibernate, however it does not come out of it, i just get a black screen when i open the laptop, how do i try to debug this?
[03:03] <Pollman> htmldotcom, did you manage to get compiz or desktop fx working?
[03:03] <smooker_> btw, i installed Kubuntu-desktop Xubuntu-Desktop and Edubuntu-Desktop from Synaptic, how do i swich between them ?
[03:03] <h1st0> Pollman: I believe I installed fiesty to pen drive.
[03:03]  * mavric200 is listening to Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth from Radio Free Colorado - Classic + Modern Rock Mix, 60's to today. Best Hi-Fi Sound on the Net! [Amarok]
[03:03] <scottybea> so it loads .profile everytime the terminal is opened or when you log out?
[03:03] <tumbleweed__> honestly, I wouldn't really use Ubuntu on a pendrive, it makes more sense to use Damn Small Linux or something akin to it
[03:03] <h1st0> Pollman: but version shouldn't matter.  I have knopppix on a pen drive now.
[03:03] <htmldotcom> Pollman: that stuff doesn't usually work to well with flash drives in my experience, if you did get the drivers right, it would be too slow
[03:04] <Pollman> I'm using an old crappy computer at the moment that can't boot from usb so I'll have to do this tomorrow
[03:04] <alyxander> ok question
[03:04] <alyxander> pigin and ubuntu The 'Manual' browser command has been chosen, but no command has been set.
[03:04] <alyxander> wtf
[03:04] <dark_ninja> just type firefox
[03:04] <tumbleweed__> Pollman : I suppose it
[03:04] <Pollman> htmldotcom, why would it be slow if it was stored locally in the RAM
[03:04] <tumbleweed__> err
[03:04] <kelsin> scottybea: when bash starts up as a login shell it loads .profile, I would put your alias defs in .bashrc which is loads when it's started as an interactive shell
[03:04] <alyxander> dark_ninja, me?
[03:04] <tumbleweed__> Pollman : http://damnsmalllinux.org/
[03:04] <dark_ninja> alyxander: yes
[03:04] <krammer> what does it take atleast 20 seconds to open the terminal any suggestions?
[03:04] <tumbleweed__> I'd suggest using that for a mobile OS rather than Ubuntu
[03:05] <jimmygoon> Anyone know how to check what lists moblock is downloading?
[03:05] <htmldotcom> yes Pollman, it will never be as fast as a hdd install from my experience, and Ive tried almost all pen drive distros
[03:05] <alyxander> dark_ninja, i dont understand type firefox where
[03:05] <scottybea> do i have to close all terminals i have open for the changes to take effect?
[03:05] <kelsin> krammer: only terminal takes that long?
[03:05] <rafal> how to set LCD refresh rate?
[03:05] <kelsin> scottybea: no
[03:05] <krammer> yes
[03:05] <kelsin> scottybea: each terminal has it's own bash instance
[03:05] <h1st0> rafal: in X?
[03:05] <rafal> h1st0: yes
[03:05] <scottybea> oh ic
[03:05] <jimmygoon> mobile OS --- um, find an actual distro that is geared towards mobile devices
[03:05] <Pollman> htmldotcom, obviously not as fast as hdd install but fast enough to be usable yes?
[03:05] <htmldotcom> yea, look into DSL, but you wont be getting any nice desktop effects Pollman
[03:05] <h1st0> rafal: can't you change in System > Preferences > Display?
[03:06] <htmldotcom> I really dont think its practical Pollman, why cant you just do a hdd install?
[03:06] <htmldotcom> Or do Wubi or something
[03:06] <Pollman> htmldotcom, I want it to be portable
[03:06] <justin_> hi, i am able to access the internet, but i am unable to access anything on my local network (such as my router) any suggestions?
[03:06] <scottybea> Succes!
[03:06] <scottybea> the .bashrc route worked
[03:06] <smooker_> maybe stupid question but, where is the Control Panel in Ubuntu ?
[03:06] <rafal> h1st0: not in kde
[03:06] <htmldotcom> mmm. eh, its not really practical, unfortunately.
[03:06] <dark_ninja> alyxander: there should be a box right below the place where you selected manual
[03:06] <kelsin> justin_: when you say "access" anything, what do you mean, can't ping your other computers?
[03:06] <h1st0> rafal: you may want to ask the people in #kubuntu they may no a better way.
[03:06] <owh> During a text-only installation, the installer asks for network settings, how do I reconfigure my network with the same user interface? You used to be able to do dpkg-reconfigure etherconf, but that no longer works. Any suggestions - other than manually editing /etc/network/* ?
[03:06] <justin_> ya, pinging my router returns host unreachable
[03:07] <scottybea> thank you very much for your help
[03:07] <rafal> thanks h1st0
[03:07] <sainzeo> i'm getting a segmentation fault error when I attempt to open evolution, any help would be greatly appreciated!
[03:07] <jimmygoon> portable? or mobile? portable - you can have ubuntu on a removable drive... sure... but if you want a frugal install then you want something like DSL... configured properly. Something RO and something volatile for files
[03:07] <kelsin> justin_: I assume you're pinging your router with it's ip address?
[03:07] <tumbleweed__> err
[03:07] <tumbleweed__> portable
[03:07] <justin_> kelsin: ya
[03:07] <alyxander> dark_ninja, thats the eror msg that pops up
[03:08] <Pollman> I guess I'll have to install on hdd, for the partitioning part of the install, when you partition it, if I choose a 160gb partition will it use that or the 340gb left over
[03:08] <kelsin> scottybea: bashrc is the better place for that stuff. bash has a very complicated startup stuff. like I said before I make my .bash_profile load .bashrc (I think that was some some other distros default) and have been doing that for a while
[03:08] <dark_ninja> right, i'm on windows so i can't help you
[03:08] <dark_ninja> sorry
[03:08] <h1st0> Pollman: what are you doing just copying the install to usb or something?
[03:08] <tumbleweed__> the problem with ubuntu is that it isn't really meant to be run on more than one kind of computer with the same install, so I don't believe it does a modprobe every time it is booted
[03:08] <scottybea> ah ic well i thank you i will get back to learning
[03:08] <kelsin> justin_: does "route -n" list your router's up as the dateway for the destination "0.0.0.0"
[03:08] <alyxander> dark_ninja, never mind i got it thanks man
[03:09] <justin_> kelsin: yes
[03:09] <Pollman> h1st0, I'm going to install it on my home computer, and have the pendrive for portability w/o the desktop fx
[03:09] <h1st0> Pollman: you can tell it to install to the 160gb of free space if you want.  Or manually partition the drive.
[03:09] <kelsin> justin_: If your router is configurable could it just be not responding to pings, what else doesn't work in the local network?
[03:09] <Pollman> h1st0, also how long does it usually take to partition?
[03:09] <h1st0> Pollman: the install gui has an option for manual partitioning
[03:09] <h1st0> Pollman: few seconds
[03:10] <tumbleweed__> yeah
[03:10] <arooni-mobile> everytime i try to use that cool deskbar applet to search my /home directory..... i get no results... its like its not indexing my files....... can someone tell me how to fix?  thanks!
[03:10] <justin_> i cant access it via http like i usually do either
[03:10] <tumbleweed__> shouldn't take more than a minute to partition
[03:10] <h1st0> Pollman: are you setting up dual boot on the home computer or just ubuntu
[03:10] <justin_> i can using my laptop though
[03:10] <dark_ninja> arooni-mobile: bug in tracker
[03:10] <Pollman> h1st0, I chose a 160gb partition and clicked next, and it stayed at 0% for at least half an hour
[03:10] <dark_ninja> wait for a fix
[03:10] <Pollman> h1st0, dual boot with vista :|
[03:10] <ericvw_t> how do i kill a gost login?
[03:10] <h1st0> Pollman: well what type of partition is the 160gb?
[03:10] <justin_> it was working a few hours ago when i was using arch
[03:10] <kelsin> ericvw_t: on irc, or on your computer?
[03:10] <ericvw_t> irc
[03:11] <Dankchild> hey guys i need some cedega help, every time i click the icon under games it goes to a black screen with some text for like a half a second, and then it sends me to the ubuntu log in screen
[03:11] <kelsin> ericvw_t: /msg NickServ ghost <nick> <password>
[03:11] <Pollman> h1st0, I stopped it because it wasn't doing anything
[03:11] <ericvw_t> perfect, thanks!
[03:11] <tumbleweed__> Dankchild : try in #cedega
[03:11] <h1st0> Dankchild: you should contact cedega since you are paying for support
[03:11] <kelsin> Dankchild: def a question for cedage, esp since you're paying them for support
[03:11] <htmldotcom> in my experience it must be GHOST not ghost
[03:11] <kelsin> h1st0: lol
[03:11] <dasos> my laptop has 4 resoutions, but when i output to hdtv it doesn't show any sort of 720i/p options, is there a way to add it?
[03:11] <bthornton> I've noticed I have both acpid and apmd running on my computer.  Do I only need one of these?
[03:11] <sainzeo> i'm getting a segmentation fault error when I attempt to open evolution, any help would be greatly appreciated!
[03:11] <h1st0> Pollman: well is the 160gb just free space? Or is it a partition you created?
[03:11] <htmldotcom> eh nvm
[03:11] <sunilonln> dasos: see xrandr
[03:11] <kelsin> justin_: is the laptop running ubuntu as well?
[03:12] <justin_> kelsin: yes
[03:12] <h1st0> Pollman: what I would do is have vista installed and leave some free space on the drive.  THen just tell the installer to use the free space.
[03:12] <justin_> kelsin: dhcp though
[03:12] <kelsin> justin_: do the "route -n" outputs on both machines differ alot or at all?
[03:12] <Pollman> h1st0, I didn't make the 160gb partition. I want to make a dual boot install with ubuntu having less space
[03:12] <h1st0> I'm so lost as to why my pcspeaker isn't working on this computer in ubuntu.
[03:12] <tumbleweed__> I had quite an ordeal installing Ubuntu on my Laptop, but at least it went better than Debian, Debian didn't even detect my NIC!
[03:12] <ninjagambit> im curently using fedora 8 can i get rid of that and install ubuntu
[03:12] <kelsin> justin_: ahhh so the desktop is using a static config in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:12] <foug> how do i connect to a printer on the network with ubuntu? The printer is connected to a PC using windows XP
[03:12] <h1st0> !dualboot > Pollman, Pollman Read the private message from ubotu.
[03:12] <ninjagambit> with the installer
[03:12] <Reng> hey does ubuntu have active sync?
[03:12] <tumbleweed__> though to be fair, my laptop is fairly new
[03:13] <h1st0> Pollman: check out the pm for some information.
[03:13] <Benalex> h1st0: have you check volume control??? :)) sorry I had to ask... may be it is muted
[03:13] <justin_> kelsin: yes
[03:13] <Pollman> h1st0, thanks
[03:13] <h1st0> Benalex: ahh no one thing I haven't checked lol brb
[03:13] <kelsin> foug: one way is to share it in windows doing it the normal windows way, then you have to configure the samba printer stuff in ubuntu, probably can find the tutorials about it, I don't know the procedure off hand
[03:13] <kelsin> justin_: do you mind pasteing your /etc/network/interfaces file in pastebin?
[03:14] <PirateHead> How do I install new fint foiles (ttf format)?
[03:14] <Dogfishguzzler> Got time for a lame question? How can I change the permission of an ntfs partition from root to normal user? Iv'e tried the hell out of chown, I'm stuck.
[03:14] <PirateHead> fint foiles??? Font files.
[03:14] <jsoftw> *shrug*
[03:14] <h1st0> Benalex: lol that was it.
[03:14] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: you need to pass a umask to the mount command
[03:14] <h1st0> Pollman: np
[03:14] <jsoftw> I think you might need to mount the partition with the gid/uid options set.
[03:14] <PirateHead> Dogfishguzzler: You need to mount it using special options and stuff.
[03:14] <h1st0> Pollman: also I recomend creating a seperate /home partition but you don't have to.
[03:15] <PirateHead> Dogfishguzzler: umask sounds like the right term. Look at the man page for mount for more info.
[03:15] <justin_> kelsin: http://pastebin.org/10259
[03:15] <h1st0> h1st0: beep damn it
[03:15] <Dogfishguzzler> okay, so I need to man mount and read about umask....anything else?
[03:15] <Benalex> h1st0: you kiddin me!!
[03:15] <PirateHead> How do I install new fonts in ttf format?
[03:15] <Pollman> h1st0, I'm sort of confused about the ubuntu installation, if I choose to create a partition with it, which partition does it use?
[03:15] <kelsin> justin_: can you humor me and try restarting networking with the auto line before the iface line for eth0?
[03:15] <h1st0> Pollman: the one you create.
[03:15] <tumbleweed__> yes, always create a seperate /home
[03:16] <tumbleweed__> in case you ruin your install accidentally
[03:16] <Benalex> Dogfishguzzler: use storage device manager to configure your fstab
[03:16] <h1st0> Pollman: its easier if you are confused to just have free space on the drive and tell it to use that.
[03:16] <Pollman> h1st0, so if I choose a 160gb partition it will use that one
[03:16] <tumbleweed__> your documents are safe
[03:16] <Pollman> h1st0, do I do that using the manual partition?
[03:16] <h1st0> Pollman: yeah you choose the 160gb partition and change the mount point to / it will use that.
[03:16] <h1st0> Pollman: you also need a /swap partition.
[03:16] <Dogfishguzzler> Benalex:I don't recall even seeing that 'tool'
[03:16] <justin_> kelsin: not sure i quite follow
[03:16] <Benalex> try add/remove
[03:16] <kelsin> PirateHead: I forget where I read it or if this is the right directory but I think you can drop them in ~/.fonts and restart X and it will pick them up, I'm not positive on any of that though
[03:17] <Undead_Zeus> How do I compile a c/c++ project in KDevelop?
[03:17] <h1st0> Pollman: just don't delete you vista partition.
[03:17] <Benalex> Dogfishguzzler: try add/remove applications
[03:17] <Undead_Zeus> Apparently I need to make a makefile, but i don't know how to do that. Surely there is an option that lets me do that
[03:17] <Dogfishguzzler> okay, thanks
[03:17] <kelsin> justin_: in your /etc/network/interfaces you have the auto eth1 line at the end, can you move it to line 4?
[03:17] <Dogfishguzzler> brb
[03:17] <kelsin> justin_: then restart your networking
[03:17] <Pollman> h1st0, I'll just use the default scroller and choose the lowest size from that
[03:17] <PirateHead> kelsin: There seems to be a folder structure in /usr/share/fonts, but I don't really know how it works.
[03:17] <h1st0> Pollman: partitions are just containers that tell the drive you can put data between the begining and the end of the partition.  Then you have to format the partition to use it.  The installer formats the partition prior to copying files to it.
[03:17] <Pollman> h1st0, the reason I was worried was because it wasn't doing anything
[03:18] <h1st0> Pollman: well do you have free unpartitioned space on your drive? or not?
[03:18] <Pollman> h1st0: 260gb or so of it
[03:18] <justin_> ifconfig eth1 restart?
[03:18] <Azrael24> hi guys...I'd like to know if 7.10 is capable of playing DVD 1080p via nvidia 8600 hdmi to the tv?
[03:18] <kelsin> justin_: yep or /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:18] <h1st0> Pollman: well then in manual config just create a 160gb partition and change the mount point to /.  THen create a /swap partition  how much memory do you have?
[03:18] <kelsin> justin_: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[03:19] <Pollman> h1st0, 2gb
[03:19] <Undead_Zeus> I use KDevelop, how do I use KDevelop to create a makefile for a c/c++ project?
[03:19] <cocox> hi
[03:19] <justin_> kelsin: that did that trick
[03:19] <h1st0> Pollman: create a 2gb /swap partition also.
[03:19] <wsv123456> webcam how to
[03:19] <justin_> how strange
[03:19] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : could you please be more descriptive?
[03:19] <kelsin> justin_: beautiful :), so something about the order of those commands had it bring up the interface correctly but not with the right info somehow :) make sure to keep the auto lines above the corresponding iface lines from now on
[03:19] <Pollman> thanks h1st0
[03:19] <PirateHead> Azrael24: I bet it's possible. It won't necessarily be trivial, though. I know you'll have a few hoops to jump through just to get DVDs playing.
[03:20] <Pollman> h1st0, I'll do that tomorrow
[03:20] <h1st0> Pollman: the are plenty of different ways to do it.  ONe would be creating a 20gb / and a 140gb /home and finally a 2gb /swap
[03:20] <Benalex> Pollman : h1st0 : sorry for interrupting you guys... is this all about installing ubuntu into pendrive?
[03:20] <justin_> kelsin: i greatly appreciate your time, thank you :)
[03:20] <h1st0> Benalex: no
[03:20] <h1st0> Benalex: installing to his hd
[03:20] <Azrael24> I'm sure I can play DVD just fine, but would like to utilize the 1080p feature
[03:20] <Pollman> Benalex, no
[03:20] <wsv123456> have webcam in 7.10 think it is recognized what do ido next?
[03:20] <Azrael24> I guess only way to know is just try it
[03:20] <Pollman> Benalex, do you have ubuntu on a pendrive?
[03:20] <cocox> does anybody knows what do i have to upgrade or install in order to repair desktop crashing when screensaver appairs in Feisty Fawn?????
[03:20] <fraterm> greeetings.
[03:20] <Dogfishguzzler> Okay, I use synaptic to manage my software, Looking at man mount I see that I should do a '-umask-'value' , how do express that value? I want to make it readable by other users.
[03:21] <Benalex> I did it before... and erased it
[03:21] <h1st0> Pollman: creating a seperate /home partition has a nice advantage.  All your files and settings are saved to their so if you have to reinstall the os or switch distros all your stuff will be there when you remount /home.
[03:21] <PirateHead> cocox: The first thing to do would be disabling the screen saver.
[03:21] <Dogfishguzzler> 777?
[03:21] <Undead_Zeus> Does anyone here use KDevelop??
[03:21] <PirateHead> cocox: Then report a bug and try to get somebody to fix it for you.
[03:21] <h1st0> Pollman: I've found that knoppix was a better option for pendrive due to the hardware detection.
[03:21] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: is this ntfs partition being mounted by /etc/fstab or automaounted (it's a usb drive or something) or what?
[03:21] <wsv123456> home partition is the best
[03:21] <h1st0> brb
[03:21] <brianski> for a hilarious read - sudo apt-get install wipe ; man wipe - and i thought i was paranoid
[03:21] <cocox> PirateHead: i guess it has been already fixed
[03:21] <Dogfishguzzler> kelsin: No I manulaly mount it.
[03:21] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : is it a USB webcam?
[03:22] <Dogfishguzzler> manually*
[03:22] <cocox> PirateHead, just looking for somebody who had the same problem
[03:22] <nDevastator> brianski what is wipe ?
[03:22] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: then when you mount it with the mount command you have to add something like "mount <device> <place> -o umask=000"
[03:22] <Benalex> Pollman: I installed ubuntu once before on a pendrive... and it was terribly slow... then got rid of it
[03:22] <wsv123456> usb webcam cheap 8.00 on ebay
[03:22] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: that will make all of the files 777 you can edit the umask as you see fit
[03:22] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : type lsusb into a terminal and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then link me
[03:22] <PirateHead> cocox: If it's fixed, the patch should eventually be released as an Ubuntu update.
[03:22] <Undead_Zeus> 1124 people and no one has ever used KDevelop for c++/c?
[03:23] <Dogfishguzzler> I can copy files from there as root into my directory then do a chown, that works, but I want to change them all where they sit. I have way to many files to go at it like that
[03:23] <tumbleweed__> Undead_Zeus : this is a help channel for ubuntu, you'd be better off going to kdevelop's support room, if they have one
[03:23] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: if someone did, and could answer your question then would Undead_Zeus
[03:23] <wsv123456> how do i link you what command?
[03:23] <Kornholijo> Undead_Zeus: what you need?
[03:23] <PirateHead> cocox: If Ubuntu packagers are being slow as molasses, which is all too common, you'll need to figure out which binaries got patched and rebuild them from source with the new patches applied.
[03:23] <Dogfishguzzler> kelsin: Whats 'octal' value mean?
[03:23] <PirateHead> How do I add new font files and have them be recognized by apps like Open Office?
[03:23] <Pollman> h1st0 thanks for the help I'm gonna go now
[03:23] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: what do you mean, it's the same as the chown input
[03:23] <fraterm> octal is 0-7
[03:23] <Undead_Zeus> Kornholijo: I am trying to compile a c/c++ project. It says I need a makefile. surely there is a way in kdevelop to automatically create one. how do I make a makefile?
[03:23] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : simply paste the output of "lsusb" to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, it will give you a link once you press paste, you need to give me the link
[03:23] <h1st0> Pollman: np there are always people here willing to help.
[03:24] <Dogfishguzzler> okay, thanks guys
[03:24] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: ntfs can't be chmod'd since ntfs doesn't support unix file permissions
[03:24] <htmldotcom> octal is a system of counting with...what fraterm said :D
[03:24] <fraterm> Dogfishguzzler: octal is 0-7 digit numbers.
[03:24] <fraterm> but you start at zero
[03:24] <fraterm> so there are 8 values possible \
[03:24] <cocox> PirateHead, dude... im still not at that level
[03:24] <Dogfishguzzler> kelsin: So you mean than my files that are in ntfs are forever owned by root?
[03:24] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: so you have to add the umask to the mount command to make the kernel behave like all of the files have some file permissions
[03:24] <Dogfishguzzler> okay thats what I will try brb
[03:25]  * fraterm grins
[03:25] <fraterm> I'm new to ubuntu y'all
[03:25] <Benalex> PirateHead: http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php
[03:25]  * jsoftw ponders
[03:25] <fraterm> A convert from Gentoo.
[03:25] <cocox> PirateHead, do you know how  to disable the screensaver from command line?
[03:25] <wease|> gentoo is caca
[03:25] <htmldotcom> wow.
[03:25] <dark_ninja> fraterm: welcome to the land of no more seven hour compiles
[03:25] <tumbleweed__> gentoo is not caca
[03:25] <tumbleweed__> simply different
[03:25] <cocox> PirateHead, because when i try from the GUI it gets freeze
[03:25] <fraterm> dark_ninja: :)))
[03:25] <tumbleweed__> different distros for different people
[03:25] <crdlb> gentoo is offtopic :)
[03:26] <tumbleweed__> touche.
[03:26] <wease|> crdlb, thanks for that
[03:26] <hagnat> hai guis
[03:26] <fraterm> I'm happy with the luxuriousness of ubuntu
[03:26] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: yes, but you can make it readable and writable by others, the uid option can allow you to set the files to be owned by you when mounted
[03:26] <wease|> tumbleweed, there ya go
[03:26] <hagnat> wuts cummin on ?
[03:26] <Dogfishguzzler> ugh, I'm typing the line like this ' sudo mount -umask 777 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/doze' what is wrong with that line?
[03:26] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : got that output for me yet?
[03:27] <Dogfishguzzler> Im doing the umask wrong
[03:27] <wsv123456> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46654/
[03:27] <PirateHead> cocox: I think you'll just have to wait for patches to come out then, which sucks.
[03:27] <IdleOne> hagnat: this is #ubuntu a support channel not a chat channel you can join #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to chat and please try typing in english
[03:27] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: did you see my example, options to the filesystem mounters is the -o option so the caommdn is "sudo mount <device> <place> -o umask=000"
[03:27] <tumbleweed__> ok
[03:27] <tumbleweed__> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0c45:60fc Microdia
[03:27] <tumbleweed__> you have a microdia webcam
[03:27] <jsoftw> Oh yeah...
[03:27] <jsoftw> Thats right
[03:27] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: umask is inverted from normal octal permission, so if you want the files 777 you need umask=000
[03:27] <cheeby> hi.  what is the best chat client (IM) for ubuntu?
[03:27] <tumbleweed__> one seconds, wsv123456
[03:27] <Dogfishguzzler> no I missed that kelsin, brb
[03:27] <jsoftw> umask 077 ftw :)
[03:27] <kelsin> !best | cheeby
[03:27] <ubotu> cheeby: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:28]  * jsoftw waits for jail to backup 
[03:28] <Xdange1> cheeby: amsn is kool
[03:28] <cheeby> ok, by "best" I meant the one that seems to please the most folk.
[03:28] <dark_ninja> cheeby: probably pidgin
[03:28] <lex> cheeby: man like pidgin (or at least i do)
[03:28] <lex> +y
[03:28] <cheeby> ok, so apt-get install pidgin?
[03:28] <cocox> PirateHead, yeah it sucks... but, you know i have the same problem while trying to enable desktop efects
[03:28] <kelsin> cheeby: it's already installed if you have a normal gnome ubuntu install
[03:28] <dark_ninja> cheeby, yerp
[03:28] <dark_ninja> well.. yeah
[03:29] <lex> never hurts to update to the newest though ;-)
[03:29] <cocox> PirateHead, so im getting the idea that maybe something its wrong just with my installation
[03:29] <cheeby> ah, indeed it is.  this is a new system.  sorry for the block-headedness.
[03:30] <h1st0> I need a better console browser than links
[03:30] <Dogfishguzzler> That did it kelsin, thanks dude!
[03:30] <kelsin> h1st0: better how?
[03:30] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: no problem, check out the uid and gid options also if you wnat them not "owned" by root?
[03:30] <h1st0> kelsin: well gmail on links2 is kind of annoying.  And I can only run in graphics mode if I use sudo for some jacked reason.
[03:30] <kelsin> Dogfishguzzler: (they are like umask in that they go after -o like: -o umask=000,uid=500
[03:31] <h1st0> kelsin: Then the mouse speed is like i'm on crack.
[03:31] <astro76> Dogfishguzzler, umask 077 or 007, but dear me you do not want 000
[03:31] <kelsin> h1st0: I think w3m has a console mode etc, but theren't aren't too many others with grahics
[03:31] <fraterm> Anyone here have the 7.10 amd-64 habit?
[03:31] <cocox> PirateHead , and also when i try to play 3D chess i get a message which says that i need this packages OpenGL for Python and bindings GtkGLExt for Python.
[03:31] <h1st0> kelsin: just links2 has graphics?  Any idea why i have to use sudo for links2 -g
[03:31] <fraterm> or perhaps have an artpad?
[03:32] <Dogfishguzzler> I only want to grab some stuff then format the whole partition to ext3. I'm not leaving it this way.
[03:33] <kelsin> h1st0: is your user in the group "video"?
[03:33] <h1st0> yeah
[03:33] <h1st0> kelsin: yes
[03:33] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : did you get my private message?
[03:34] <Dogfishguzzler> astro76: So if it's inverted like kelsin said does that mean '077' would be 'no execute, ok to write, ok to read?
[03:34] <h1st0> tumbleweed__: you can't send pms unless you registered your nickname
[03:34] <tumbleweed__> doh
[03:35] <astro76> Dogfishguzzler, 077 would be read/write/execute for user only, not for group or other
[03:35] <h1st0> !register > tumbleweed__, tumbleweed__ Read the private message from ubotu.
[03:35] <astro76> Dogfishguzzler, basically you never want anything world writable, especially if it's executable
[03:35] <tumbleweed__> I know how to register :P
[03:35] <kelsin> h1st0: did you try -driver fb and -driver directfb
[03:36] <h1st0> kelsin: nah just specified teh -g option. with sudo. let me try that
[03:36] <ethos> i need help. ekiga isn't detecting my NAT setup saying stun is blocked....
[03:36] <Dogfishguzzler> right on astro76
[03:36] <Dogfishguzzler> thanks yall, I really really appreciate it!
[03:36] <cheeby> kelsin, man it's really jumpy.
[03:36] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46655/
[03:37] <cheeby> kelsin, that is when I type.
[03:37] <h1st0> kelsin: on the the fb driver just errors.  The directfb driver says permission denied Error opening /dev/tty0
[03:37] <wsv123456> tumbleweed didnt get it
[03:38] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : just look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46655/
[03:38] <kelsin> h1st0: now I'm just guessing but maybe add yourself to the tty group?
[03:38] <tumbleweed__> it has the same stuff
[03:38] <brianski> nDevastator: a utility that tries to securely erase data so that it can not be recovered
[03:38] <cocox> Does anybody knows what do i have to upgrade or install in order to repair desktop crashing when screensaver appairs in Feisty Fawn?????
[03:38] <cocox> or do you know how  to disable the screensaver from command line, because when i try from the GUI it gets freezed. im getting the idea that maybe something its wrong just with my installation bacause i have the same problem while trying to enable desktop efects and also when i try to play 3D chess i get a message which says that i need this packages OpenGL for Python and bindings GtkGLExt for Python.
[03:38] <h1st0> kelsin: i'll have to give it a shot.
[03:38] <dark_ninja> cocox: try killall xscreensaver
[03:38] <kelsin> h1st0: past that I don't know, maybe udev rules to make /dev/tty0 the proper permissions :-(
[03:38] <h1st0> cocox: what tyep of video card do you have?
[03:39] <revx> Still having video issues with a radeon xpress 200G :/  I posted about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629816
[03:39] <Vicfred> hi
[03:40] <dark_ninja> welcome
[03:40] <sainzeo> i'm getting a segmentation fault error when I attempt to open evolution, any help would be greatly appreciated!
[03:40] <wsv123456> tumbleweed did you edit page?
[03:40] <tumbleweed__> eh?
[03:40] <wsv123456> i checked out info
[03:40] <tumbleweed__> ok
[03:40] <tumbleweed__> did you do what it says?
[03:40] <cocox> dark_ninja, but im looking for something that remains along this time until bug get fixed
[03:40] <adamonline45> Is it possible to connect to a wpa-secured network using wifi radar?
[03:40] <h1st0> ;llkj
[03:41] <ethos> I need help with Ekiga. It isn't detecting my NAT setup and its saying stun is blocked....
[03:41] <dark_ninja> cocox, you could add that to your .profile, but perhaps you had better remove the gnome screensaver package
[03:41] <dark_ninja> that should do it
[03:42] <tntCry> guys when i try installing screen let a .deb file i get an error ( Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time ) - please close the other application e.g. 'Update Manager' , 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first.
[03:42] <h1st0> cocox: did you check the hardware support on help.ubuntu.com because i remember seing somehting about that card having issues.
[03:42] <wsv123456> tumble all i saw was the output of lsusb what else
[03:42] <tumbleweed__> uhhhh
[03:42] <dark_ninja> tntcry, are you running the system updater or synaptic?
[03:42] <tumbleweed__> you went to the wrong one
[03:42] <tumbleweed__> go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46655/
[03:43] <tumbleweed__> this is a new post
[03:43] <thenetduck> can you recompile the kernel in Ubuntu for your specific processor?
[03:43] <soldats> yes
[03:43]  * emgent heya
[03:43]  * Kornholijo n+n-n=n*n-n/n*n+n/n=n
[03:44] <soldats> well you have to compile a new kernal
[03:44] <PriceChild> thenetduck, the kernel loads optimisations on the fly, there's little to no need.
[03:44] <chimp> How long does compiling ubuntu typically take?
[03:44] <fraterm> thenetduck: there is a kernel compilation guide on one of the wikis.
[03:44] <h1st0> chimp: what are you compiling?
[03:44] <chimp> nothing
[03:44] <soldats> if you know what your doing not that long but there are good tuts on it
[03:44] <chimp> i meant for compiling the os :P
[03:44] <ethos> I need help with Ekiga. It isn't detecting my NAT setup and its saying stun is blocked....
[03:44] <Vicfred> where do i download the x11 development packages? (trying to compiling from source)
[03:44] <h1st0> chimp: the kernel?
[03:44] <chimp> I have no idea how one even begins to compile an os
[03:44] <chimp> the kernel, everything the lot
[03:44] <crdlb> !generic | thenetduck
[03:44] <ubotu> thenetduck: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[03:44] <soldats> oh well im not sure then
[03:44] <jsoftw> Kornholijo: oh really?
[03:45] <h1st0> chimp: the kernel typically takes about 30 minutes on my computer if that.
[03:45] <crdlb> Vicfred: what are you building?
[03:45] <chimp> thats pretty damned fast
[03:45] <h1st0> chimp: the rest of the stuff. It would probably take a long time.  Thats why the stuff is precompiled for you.
[03:45] <thenetduck> PriceChild, I am running gentoo right now and thinking of switching to a less hastel OS ... like Ubuntu
[03:45] <chimp> yeah i can imagine
[03:45] <thenetduck> PriceChild, I also like the community
[03:45] <bobsomebody> that easy
[03:46] <PriceChild> thenetduck, with ubuntu there is no reason to compile your own kernel
[03:46] <h1st0> thenetduck: yes you can but there really isn't a need to recompile your own kernel.
[03:46] <jsoftw> Kornholijo: seems to work
[03:46] <thenetduck> PriceChild, is ubuntu going to perform as well as Gentoo?
[03:46] <tumbleweed__> PriceChild : there most certainly is
[03:46] <PriceChild> thenetduck, "yes"
[03:46] <crdlb> thenetduck: read the mailing list post from ubotu
[03:46] <tntCry> dark_ninja, no just double clicked the .deb file i amnot running any synaptic or installer i am sure or i think theyr might be running in the background what is the process name fori t
[03:46] <madcreation1> bobsomebody, hello
[03:46] <jsoftw> thenetduck: sure :)
[03:46] <bobsomebody> madcreation1, whats up
[03:46] <h1st0> thenetduck: yes the differences speed wise you wouldn't be able to notice.
[03:46] <soldats> thenetduck: ubuntu is nice for that kind of stuuf i personally think gentoo is better in a way but you might like ubuntu for its somewhat simpleness compared to gentoo
[03:46] <tumbleweed__> I usually compile my own kernel all the time to change the settings
[03:46] <crdlb> thenetduck: it has performance numbers for optimized kernels, and the gains are negligable
[03:46] <jsoftw> The whole gentoo is faster cause its optimized is a load of rubbish IMO
[03:47] <h1st0> thenetduck: thats why there's no point anymore in recompiliing your own kernels etc...
[03:47] <jsoftw> It might be faster in some cases, but by nothing signifigant
[03:47] <jsoftw> if at all
[03:47] <tumbleweed__> h1st0 : yes there is
[03:47] <dark_ninja> tntcry not really sure but try a "ps -e" and if you see synaptic aptitude or updater kill them and you should be fine
[03:47] <slavi1> ok, I need help, it appears as if php works fine and I can connect to my mysql server through php, but for some reason phpmyadmin gives me a blank page ...
[03:47] <tumbleweed__> I have to recompile my kernel all the time to add in my own modules and such
[03:47] <jsoftw> Meh.
[03:47] <PriceChild> tumbleweed__, you don't need to recompile the entire kernel to compile a module...
[03:47] <tumbleweed__> I know that
[03:47] <thenetduck> h1st0, interesting... very interesting .. and it supports reiserFS etc ?
[03:47] <h1st0> tumbleweed__: you can load the modules there is no need.  Look up some specs on benchmarking the difference.
[03:47] <PriceChild> tumbleweed__, modules are just that... modules...
[03:47] <h1st0> thenetduck: yes
[03:48] <tumbleweed__> not just modules
[03:48] <tumbleweed__> but other settings
[03:48] <jsoftw> Yeah.
[03:48] <tumbleweed__> like using SLAB instead of SLOB
[03:48] <A|ysum> hi, is the user 'backup' a default of Linux FS or just Ubuntu ? thanks
[03:48] <jsoftw> My days of farting around with kernel compiles are over.
[03:48] <tumbleweed__> I dunno
[03:48] <h1st0> tumbleweed__: For the majority of users it is not necessary. But you still have that option thats the beauty of linux.
[03:48] <jsoftw> It makes me *yawn*
[03:48] <tumbleweed__> I just like doing it :P
[03:48] <crdlb> tumbleweed__: SLUB :)
[03:48] <jsoftw> Im sure you get sick of it :)
[03:48] <thenetduck> h1st0,  one more question, I hate lots of clutter, I have built my gentoo system up from gnome-light (basicly nothing but a terminal an natilus ) is there a gnome light version for Ubuntu?
[03:49] <thenetduck> h1st0, something like ubuntu-light with no programs or something?
[03:49] <jsoftw> thenetduck: xfce4 :p
[03:49] <Greevous> msg nickserv id Coruscant500
[03:49] <h1st0> thenetduck: you can install a command line system from the alternate iso then hand pick packages such as gnome-core etc...
[03:49] <soldats> thenetduck: xfce is a light weight version
... well i think i started on gimp then i needed some dependencies then i was trying to build the dependencies and somehow i now need x11 xd
[03:49] <thenetduck> jsoftw, :) ... I just don't like that added programs
[03:49] <h1st0> thenetduck: staying away from all the clutter of the ubuntu-desktop package.
[03:49] <PriceChild> Greevous, please identify and change your password immediately.
[03:49] <dark_ninja> thenetduck: well you could also build up a bare session with only what you need
[03:49] <dark_ninja> it's quite easy
[03:49] <kelsin> thenetduck: and after installing the command line you can install applications individual and build up gnome with what you want
[03:49] <jsoftw> thenetduck: yeah well whats the difference.
[03:49] <PriceChild> Greevous, in the future, please use the server tab rather than a public channel when entering your password
[03:49] <bthornton> Does NFS v4 support 3DES keys?
[03:49] <jsoftw> thenetduck: end of the day, you save what... a few megs?
[03:49] <h1st0> thenetduck: yeah you are looking for the alternate iso cd from the download page.  You can install a command line system and hand pick the other packages you want.
[03:49]  * tumbleweed__ slaps his face
[03:50] <crdlb> gah that was mean
[03:50] <r33f3r> e17 in elbuntu is shaping up also, very light also
[03:50] <tntCry> dark_ninja, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46657/report/
[03:50] <wsv123456> tumble check out results posted on page thanks
[03:50] <h1st0> jsoftw: there is a huge speed difference there is a ton of clutter that isn't necesary.
[03:50] <tumbleweed__> ok
[03:50] <jsoftw> h1st0: it makes no real difference if you just disable those things.
[03:50] <jsoftw> Turn them off.
[03:50] <jsoftw> A bit of hdd space.
[03:50] <thenetduck> h1st0, now that's what I have been wanting to hear. With the base system I get the Ubuntu kernel (linux whatever you wanna call it) so my devices are going to be serviced too?
[03:50] <tumbleweed__> wsv123456 : what's the link again?
[03:50] <h1st0> joseaa: I'm running kde on a p3 500 using kde-core and its fast as hell.
[03:51] <h1st0> jsoftw: there is still a lot of clutter bluetooth all kinds of extra apps etc...
[03:51] <soldats> thenetduck: almost all devices and services are in ubuntu
[03:51] <jsoftw> h1st0: so? I just turn that stuff off
[03:51] <soldats> install
[03:51] <FangLiger> is Pollman still here?
[03:51] <thenetduck> h1st0, im sold
[03:51] <Benalex> FangLiger: No he said I gtg and left :)
[03:51] <h1st0> jsoftw: you can't just turn off the extra apps you'd have to remove them.  Then that kind of defeats the purpose of installing a kubuntu-desktop meta package in the first place.
[03:51] <dark_ninja> tntcry try killall update-notifier, but other than that i see nothing
[03:52] <dark_ninja> you should try again before you do that
[03:52] <FangLiger> damn, i found a way to run ubuntu 7.10 embedded in windows with persistence
[03:52] <tumbleweed__> Greevous : might want to change your password.
[03:52] <h1st0> thenetduck: yeah there is gnome-core etc... also there are alternate wm's like flux etc...
[03:52] <thenetduck> h1st0, question though, can you optimize programs like in gentoo with USE packages I mean if I don't want programs to have service for something or I do for another
[03:52] <jsoftw> Its all cool being clean and stuff, but in my opinion, a desktop is going to have a lot of stuff installed. Why fart around trying to make a desktop box all 'clean' and 'minimal' beyond turning things you dont need off.
[03:52] <tntCry> u see nothing dark_ninja
[03:52] <Greevous> tumbleweed__: shoot I forgot how... the freenode website?
[03:52] <thenetduck> h1st0, USE flags*
[03:52] <tumbleweed__> nope
[03:52] <kelsin> thenetduck: you can't do that in ubuntu, most packages have most things enabled
[03:52] <PriceChild> Greevous, /msg nickserv identify password
[03:52] <soldats> thenetduck: yes you can
[03:53] <PriceChild> Greevous, /msg nickserv set password newpassword
[03:53] <thenetduck> soldats, really what is it called?
[03:53] <Greevous> PriceChild: thank you
[03:53] <dark_ninja> tntcry update-notifier can interfere with apt while it's checking for updates
[03:53] <thenetduck> soldats, or how does it work in Ubuntu?
[03:53] <h1st0> thenetduck: well you would have to build the package from source then if you wanted to change its config options.  Just like in gentoo.  In ubuntu you could just get the source for the package and configure to your hearts content.
[03:53] <dark_ninja> worst case just log out and then try again
[03:53] <jsoftw> h1st0: meh
[03:53] <jsoftw> h1st0: I just installed ubuntu and then run xfce4, whats the problem
[03:54] <h1st0> thenetduck: the major difference is apt vs. emerge.  All packages are precompiled but the source is availible.
[03:54] <jsoftw> It works, its done, nice and easy.
[03:54] <thenetduck> h1st0, but the package mantainer ... for deb will not ever update it
[03:54] <soldats> thenetduck: basicall the packages you install will most likel come with all required "flags" for your system but is also tells you which packages will benifit you on your system and sometimes it asks you if you want them installes
[03:54] <ethos> I need help with Ekiga. It isn't detecting my NAT setup and its saying stun is blocked.... what do i do?
[03:54] <thenetduck> h1st0, but with emerge if I find a program that I want I can create an ebuild
[03:54] <h1st0> thenetduck: you can build your own debs as well.
[03:54] <tntCry> still :( dark_ninja
[03:54] <h1st0> thenetduck: you can download the source for any package you want from the web and build a deb with checkinstall.
[03:55] <tumbleweed__> ok, so I've built a pretty little .deb out of my kernel (just finished building) what now? just install it and restart?
[03:55] <thenetduck> h1st0, is building your own .deb easy?
[03:55] <tumbleweed__> yup
[03:55] <soldats> thenetduck: you can get debs and add to them with more packages that work with them
[03:55] <tumbleweed__> you just use apt-build
[03:55] <h1st0> tumbleweed__: yeap dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb
[03:55] <h1st0> thenetduck: yeah with checkinstall
[03:55] <tumbleweed__> do I have to fool with GRUB, h1st0?
[03:55] <smooker_> How can i edit the UBUNTU DEFAULT STARTUP which are (Generic) and 386 and (Save Mode)
[03:55] <smooker_> ?
[03:55] <htmldotcom> /etc/init.d/x and then tab for autocomplete <---would any of these two things screw up my sustem in any way?---> /etc/init.d/x-session start
[03:56] <soldats> yes dpkg is very powerfull and may be better than apt-get in your case
[03:56] <h1st0> thenetduck: download the soruce change to the directory config then make then checkinstall instead of make install command.  It will prompt you for answers and spit out a nice little deb.
[03:56] <kelsin> smooker_: in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst there is a setting for the default kernel to boot
[03:56] <Benalex> smooker: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:56] <f0rqu3> anyone using new ati driver ?
[03:56] <f0rqu3> I can change gamma in games
[03:56] <Benalex> and it is Safe mofe not Save move :P
[03:56] <f0rqu3> can not*
[03:56] <thenetduck> h1st0, wow can't get much simpler than that! ... but that is a deb for my specific system
[03:56] <h1st0> thenetduck: the only real difference is the centralized config in gentoo like the use flags.  THose would have to be changed on a app by app basis if you wanted to build from source.
[03:56] <smooker_> oh i forgot what was the  process name of the File Browser ?
[03:57] <h1st0> thenetduck: like I say there really isn't much of a reason to do that though.
[03:57] <dark_ninja> tntcry not sure what to say, check the ps list again, or try to install as root using sudo -i
[03:57] <soldats> smooker_: is it nautilis
[03:57] <soldats> nautilus
[03:57] <tim__> hi there I'm trying to get the bitrate of an mp3 from cli without playing it. help?
[03:57] <astro76> tim__, try file, e.g. file filename.mp3
[03:57] <kelsin> soldats: most ubuntu packages have all of the options you will find with use flags enabled, since it wants to appeal to most users
[03:58] <thenetduck> h1st0, I just need something that works, is highly customizable and doesn't crash, I have also gotten tired of the emerge -u world compiles ...
[03:58] <slavi1> why would phpmyadmin give a blank index page?
[03:58] <smooker_> 10x
[03:58] <ethos> I need help with Ekiga. It isn't detecting my NAT setup and its saying stun is blocked.... what do i do?
[03:58] <thenetduck> h1st0, just takes a bunch of time
[03:58] <h1st0> thenetduck: if you put in the data in checkinstall correctly you can add requirements etc.. then it would work on other systems.
[03:58] <wsv123456> tumbleweed did you see page updated with output
[03:58] <adamonline45> How can I connect to a WPA router using WiFi Radar?
[03:58] <kelsin> thenetduck: I would give ubuntu/debian a go then, they are very nice systems
[03:59] <h1st0> thenetduck: well you should read about apt then.  The packages are pre built no need to compile like I said.  If you want a stream lined system jsut dl the alternate iso and install a command line system and hand pick the other apps you want with apt-get.
[03:59] <Vicfred> crdlb: well i think i started on gimp then i needed some dependencies then i was trying to build the dependencies and somehow i now need x11 xd
[03:59] <h1st0> !apt > thenetduck, thenetduck Read the private message from ubotu.
[03:59] <soldats> kelsin: yes but some may not come with all options ans in some plugins you may need or want, i say this because when i installed "mocp" i aslo needed the ffmpeg plugin as well so i had to get that after and apt-get told me i may need it or require it for mp3s
[03:59] <xzased> How can I access shared folders from 2 xubuntu pc,s? It seems all the info is aimed at windows+ubuntu filesharing
[03:59] <crdlb> Vicfred: well if you want to build the gimp then run: sudo apt-get build-dep gimp    and it will install all the build dependencies for you
[03:59] <Vicfred> ok thx
[03:59] <kelsin> soldats: a recommended package is very different then a gentoo use flag
[03:59] <prak> what would be an appropriate app for burning cd in ubuntu?
[04:00] <dark_ninja> xzased, are you using nfs for sharing?
[04:00] <ethos> I need help with Ekiga. It isn't detecting my NAT setup and its saying stun is blocked.... what do i do?
[04:00] <Benalex> prak : k3b
[04:00] <kelsin> prak: brasero or gnome-baker
[04:00] <soldats> kelsin: yes i know i had gentoo for a while thats why i prefer ubuntu because most basic packages it gets for you
[04:00] <xzased> yep, NFS
[04:00] <Vicfred> E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[04:00] <kelsin> xzased: as long as ssh is working you can broswe and share via the gnome nautlilus interface with sftp
[04:01] <tim__> astro76: thanks but "file" did not give the bitrate and the man for it is also no help :)
[04:01] <thenetduck> h1st0, thanks im going to go install the command line.. btw ..before I get all command liney ... I just install apt-get gnome-core for the base gnome system?
[04:01] <astro76> tim__, yeah file is useful for video, not so much for mp3 apparently
[04:01] <soldats> tim__: you may just wnt to do it with a program or by clicking file properties
[04:01] <xzased> kelsin: how do I do that? Do I go to thunar, or is Nautilus a different thing?
[04:01] <tim__> astro76: "a.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 23.0 tag, MP3 encoding" was the output
[04:02] <crdlb> Vicfred: are you sure you got the hyphen in "build-dep"?
[04:02] <tim__> astro76: i'm trying to make a script ...
[04:02] <kelsin> xzased: well as long as the ssh server is all set on both systems you can use any sftp client. I know the default ubuntu (not xubuntu) uses nautilus and it has a sftp client. I don't have any experience with thunar to know if it does :-(
[04:02] <dana_bad> is there a program like mspaint for linux?
[04:02] <dana_bad> something that i can just doodle something in quick?
[04:02] <kelsin> dana_bad: tux_paint I think?
[04:02] <prak> brasero and gnomebaker aren't authenticated
[04:02] <prak> are they still ok to be installed?
[04:02] <dark_ninja> xzased, you could try using the gnome network browser but my experience so far is that you have to explicitly mount the share in fstab
[04:03] <dana_bad> kelsin: is it super light/small
[04:03] <dark_ninja> anyone correct me if i'm wrong
[04:03] <soldats> dana_bad: i believe its called GNU paint
[04:03] <Tyreses> hi i need to know how to run .bin files in ubuntu....
[04:03] <kelsin> dark_ninja: xzased for nsd yes, or use the mount command on the command line, ussualy if you just want to transfer files and not mount a file system ssh and sftp is easier
[04:03] <kelsin> Tyreses: what are you trying to run?
[04:03] <tomd123> ok, so what is going on, when I go to my music directory and search for tetris, it shows nothing but i know i have like 10 songs in that directory
[04:03] <dark_ninja> kelsin, hear hear for ssh
[04:03] <Vicfred> vicfred@vicfred-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep gimp
[04:03] <Tyreses> PlaneShift_CBV0.3.020x86.bin
[04:03] <tomd123> this happens for everything i search for
[04:04] <h1st0> tomd123: how are you searching?
[04:04] <Marfi> tomd123, what music player are you using?
[04:04] <kelsin> Tyreses: most likely just run it with "sh PlaneShift_CBV0.2.020x86.bin"
[04:04] <tomd123> i got to places, home, music
[04:04] <tntCry> ..
[04:04] <Marfi> Tyreses, or ./NameOfFile.bin
[04:04] <tomd123> then i press search
[04:04] <tomd123> then i enter the name and hit enter, it says 0 results
[04:04] <h1st0> thenetduck: apt-get will aready be installed then after you log in just sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-core
[04:05] <Tyreses> gives me and error
[04:05] <h1st0> !sudo > thenetduck, thenetduck Read the private message from ubotu.
[04:05] <Tyreses> permission denied
[04:05] <Peddy> Can somebody please tell me the command to view my CPU specs? I knew it, but forgot :p
[04:05] <Tyreses> tried with sudo
[04:05] <Tyreses> still didnt work
[04:05] <Rug> Peddy: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:05] <kelsin> Tyreses: with the ./ command or the sh command?
[04:05] <Tyreses> yup
[04:05] <danny> hi, i need help installing and getting awn
[04:05] <Peddy> thanks Rug, te h pwn :)
[04:05] <soldats> Peddy: try "top" in command line
[04:06] <kelsin> Tyreses: you can "chmod +x <file>" to give is executable permission, byt my last question was an "or" question not a "yes and no" question
[04:06] <h1st0> Tyreses: you need to get in the directory where the bin is then just ./nameoffile.bin
[04:06] <Rug> Yeah that works too, Pedy what info are you after?
[04:06] <Peddy> soldats: thanks, but I meant the specs of the cpu. cya
[04:06] <Tyreses> both
[04:06] <Peddy> Rug: model name, etc. mainly sse3 info. I wanna know if it has sse3
[04:06] <zdh> Peddy: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:06] <soldats> Peddy: sorry i misread
[04:06] <h1st0> Peddy: that should show you.
[04:07] <danny> i need help installing and getting awn any help?
[04:07] <dark_ninja> danny: try apt-get install awn
[04:07] <dark_ninja> it should be i nthe repos
[04:07] <jimmygoon> Peddy, not to pry, but can I ask why you want to know that ?
[04:07] <Peddy> h1st0: do you by any chance know if SSE3 and SSSE3 are the same thing?
[04:07] <Peddy> jimmygoon: I think you know ;)
[04:07] <Rug> SSE3 there is no SSSE3
[04:07] <Peddy> jimmygoon: patched Leopard kernel
[04:07] <jimmygoon> Peddy I asked that question a couple of hours ago :P
[04:07] <xzased> kelsin & dark ninja - Thanks :)
[04:07] <jimmygoon> (yep)
[04:07] <Marfi> *cough* mac emulation
[04:08] <Peddy> thats 's what I said above ;)
[04:08] <Tyreses> fixed it with the chmod, thanks much
[04:08] <Rug> Peddy: just use VMware
[04:08] <Peddy> that's*
[04:08] <smooker_> How can i change my desktop Rezolution ?
[04:08] <Marfi> Rug, VMware + mac = ugh
[04:08] <Peddy> Rug: rather dual boot
[04:08] <Marfi> smooker, system > prefferences > screen res
[04:08] <Rug> Marfi: I got it to work on my box
[04:08] <Peddy> Rug: it *does* say ssse3. not sse3.
[04:08] <danny> dark_ninja, i get this message  apt-get install awn
[04:09] <Marfi> Rug, i got it to work also. but it ran horribly...even with all the tweaks
[04:09] <Peddy> Marfi: I agree
[04:09] <calm> Hi everyone! When I right click on an mp3, and "open with" rhythmbox, rhythmbox opens, but it doesn't play the mp3. It doesn't even load the mp3 into its library. Is there any way to fix this behavior?
[04:09] <Rug> Peddy: really?   I thought it was just a typo
[04:09] <danny> dark_ninja, sorry wait
[04:09] <Peddy> Rug: nope
[04:09] <Marfi> !mp3 | calm
[04:09] <ubotu> calm: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:09] <Peddy> Rug: there is sse2.
[04:09] <soldats> calm: you may ned the codecs for mpeg
[04:09] <danny> dark_ninja, i get his message E: Couldn't find package awn
[04:09] <Benalex> smooker_ : system>>preferences>> screen resolution
[04:09] <jimmygoon> danny, you have to use full name - avant-window-navigator
[04:09] <smooker_> OMG! i can choose only 640x480 :((((((((
[04:10] <Peddy> Rug: I'ma check online
[04:10] <Marfi> smooker_, you may have to add it to your xorg.conf file
[04:10] <hockeyfan5000> smooker, sounds like you need to update your video card drivers
[04:10] <volumenico> smooker: you have to edit your xorg.conf then
[04:10] <jimmygoon> smooker_ try the option under the admin panel for screen/display configuration - it is more allowing
[04:10] <jimmygoon> "Screens and Graphics"
[04:10] <danny> jimmygoon, dark_ninja, E: Couldn't find package avant-window-navigator
[04:10] <calm> I don't think this is a codecs issue. I can play the mp3s just fine in totem. Also, if rhythmbox is already open, the mp3 will load and play correctly. Also also, I get the same problem with oggs, or any other audio file.
[04:10] <dtork> Does anyone know a program that can access the "line in" on my computer and play media from it?
[04:10] <smooker_> where is the admin panel ?
[04:11] <andreuu> there was a site that autogot everything you might need extra for ubuntu last time I tried it
[04:11] <jimmygoon> danny, sorry, I came in on the end of the convo, did you add a repository (and if so, did you "sudo apt-get update" afterwards?)
[04:11] <Marfi> danny, do a google search for avant-window-manager. its from an external repository. and thank you, i have been trying to remember the name of the package myself. =)
[04:11] <andreuu> does anybody remember what its called plz ?
[04:11] <ankur> is there any macromedia flash player for ububtu?
[04:11] <jimmygoon> smooker_,  :P System->Administration->Screens&Graphics
[04:11] <calm> It's just when rhythmbox isn't already open: when you try to open an audio file with rhythmbox, it will just open rhythmbox, without actually playing the file.
[04:11] <hockeyfan5000> speaking of resolution, anyone know why my refresh rate only goes to 57?
[04:11] <zdh> andreuu: automatix?
[04:11] <jimmygoon> ankur, yes, if on gutsy, it will prompt to install as soon as a page tries to use it
[04:11] <dana_bad> soldats and kelsin: gpaint is what i was looking for
[04:11] <volumenico> ankur: there is a firefox plugin for flash and a number of free flash alternatives
[04:11] <kelsin> dtork: the Sound Recorder program can record sound from it, and if you play witht he different volumes and mixer levels you should be able to make it come out of your speakers depending on your sound card
[04:12] <Rug> I don't get the point, if you want a Mac, just buy a Mac.  If you want an OS that does what YOU want, run Linux.  If you would rather fight Malware all day long, then get Windows.   Macs are fine for audio/Video production, but only because the hardware isn't flexible
[04:12] <andreuu> mmm automatix rings a bell thanks
[04:12] <soldats> smooker_: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg" i believe
[04:12] <Peddy> Rug: does text only turn red if you put a 'Rug: blah blah' at the start of it?
[04:12] <soldats> dana_bad: yes
[04:12] <kelsin> dana_bad: yeah tux paint (http://www.tuxpaint.org/) is more for kids it would seem
[04:12] <thenetduck> is ubuntu's Kernel going to be OK with my SATA drivers out of the box?
[04:12] <bazhang_> andreuu: no need for that now
[04:12] <Peddy> Rug: in xchat
[04:12] <jimmygoon> whoa... no automatix.... thats bad
[04:12] <ankur> what is the name?
[04:12] <smooker_> Package `xerver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[04:12] <thenetduck> I mean devices?
[04:12] <dtork> kelsin: but to simply play it through the speakers live without first recording it?
[04:13] <Rug> Peddy: I don't use xchat, but yes, kinda
[04:13] <bazhang_> automatix is not needed
[04:13] <task0> hello all, does any one know where can i get CDS/ISIS for ubuntu?
[04:13] <zdh> jimmygoon: i know, never used it, just know what it does ;p
[04:13] <jimmygoon> andreuu, I would NOT recommend automatix, it has its own factoid
[04:13] <bpds> calm: I don't think rhythmbox is meant to open individual files.  I can't open single files either.
[04:13] <jimmygoon> !automatix
[04:13] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[04:13] <soldats> smooker_: hmm thats strange i havent heard of it not being installed
[04:13] <Marfi> smooker_, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf , go to the bottom of the file, and it will be pretty self explanitory. =)
[04:13] <Rug> Peddy: it is alerting you that somebody has typed your name
[04:13] <jimmygoon> smooker_, :O
[04:13] <Peddy> Rug: ah ok lol thanks
[04:13] <bazhang_> task0: www.ubuntu.com
[04:13] <crdlb> smooker_: xserver-xorg :)
[04:13] <kelsin> dtork: should be able to just play with the mixer settings, double click on the speaker
[04:13] <Marfi> smooker_, or install xserver first  =)
[04:14] <crdlb> soldats: you typoed :)
[04:14] <kelsin> dtork: normally line in is muted and all the way down, does raising the volume and unmuting it allow you to hear whatever is playing into it? This might depend on your sound card
[04:14] <task0> bazhang_: sory?
[04:14] <Peddy> Rug: apparently SSSE3 is a version above SSE3. Do you think the mac thing will work>
[04:14] <soldats> smooker_: "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" sorry is misstyped
[04:14] <Peddy> ?
[04:14] <bazhang_> task0: you want to download the iso for ubuntu?
[04:14] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | smooker soldats
[04:14] <ubotu> smooker soldats: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[04:14] <soldats> crdlb: yes ive been drinking im very sorry
[04:14] <jimmygoon> Peddy, I think it just needs a cpu capable of sse3, surely ssse3 is backwards compatible... and if not you at least have sse2 for sure
[04:14] <sicc-work> I swear you guys are just making up instruction sets
[04:14] <Rug> Peddy: what CPU do you have?
[04:14] <task0> bazhang_: no, the program CSD/ISIS
[04:15] <Marfi> Peddy, jimmygoon i agree
[04:15] <dtork> kelsin: yes, the line in was muted. Thank you very much
[04:15] <bazhang_> task0: what does it do
[04:15] <kelsin> dtork: np
[04:15] <jimmygoon> Peddy, but I don't know, I only have sse2  and leopard is only 50% restored from my legal copy (acho)
[04:15] <Peddy> Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz E6750
[04:15] <Marfi> lol
[04:15] <Rug> Peddy: it'll be more then fine
[04:15] <soldats> Jordan_U: yea whenever i reconfig its usually the whol shebang
[04:15] <task0> bazhang_: is a program made by UNESCO for databases
[04:15] <fekall> i just updated my software and added the compiz configuration...where would I find that to start making some changes
[04:15] <smooker_>  sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt works
[04:15] <Jordan_U> sicc-work, No, we aren't making them up, we are generating them randomly with the command "cat /dev/urandom | grep commandyness"
[04:15] <sicc-work> :)
[04:15] <Rug> Peddy: why do you want to run OSX?
[04:15] <jimmygoon> fekall - System->Preferences -> apperance - > last tab
[04:16] <smooker_> and im shure i have xorg installed
[04:16] <Marfi> fekall, system > prefferences > appearence
[04:16] <Peddy> Rug the torrent is uber slow, probably gonna buy the Leopard DVD and then patch is seperatly. Its only $200
[04:16] <fekall> thanks
[04:16] <bazhang_> task0: no idea then you could check packages.ubuntu.com though it may not be in there
[04:16] <kelsin> Jordan_U: how do I knwo that's not a fake command!
[04:16] <Jordan_U> soldats, That's because you aren't adding the "-phigh"
[04:16] <Marfi> Peddy, only 200
[04:16] <Peddy> Rug: for fun. what can I say.
[04:16] <jimmygoon> :P I've got between 200-400 KiB/s
[04:16] <Marfi> Peddy, you can give that "only 200" over this way if you would like...
[04:16] <Rug> The last OS I bought was OS/2 Warp
[04:16] <Peddy> Marfi: I would rather pay for software development than pirate it.
[04:17] <Rug> and the first was MS Dos v5
[04:17] <soldats> Jordan_U: yes i realize that know i never knew that but now that i know i will use it if necesssary thank you for the info on it
[04:17] <jimmygoon> Peddy, pssh.... if you have a widescreen you'll soon find out that $200 might not go as far as you would like
[04:17] <jimmygoon> Peddy, unless they've fixed that issue in more recent patches/hacks....
[04:17] <task0> is not there bazhang_ =/
[04:17] <fekall> but Marfi ....isnt there an actual control panel that offers certain effects?
[04:17] <Peddy> Marfi: especially the torrent taking 5 weeks to download.
[04:18] <tarelerulz> I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) and I get irc and synaptic and web pages times out.
[04:18] <calm> bpds: Ah. That's kind of silly, isn't it? It seems like it should be pretty easy to make rhythmbox load and play an audio file when you "open with" rhythmbox...
[04:18] <task0> I have found this... but i dont know how to use it... http://www.unesco.org/isis/files/winisis/unix/cds-isis.tar
[04:18] <Marfi> fekall, yes, you have to download it. let me find the name of the package really fast
[04:18] <jimmygoon> fekall, didn't you just say you enabled it?
[04:18] <fekall> yes
[04:18] <Peddy> jimmygoon: I don't have widescreen. But my other hardware will probably not work.
[04:18] <fekall> but i cant find the actual control panel for it
[04:18] <calm> that's really the only thing preventing me from using rhythmbox as my default audio player
[04:18] <jimmygoon> then it would be there :P
[04:18] <bazhang_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/perl/libbiblio-isis-perl task0
[04:18] <jimmygoon> fekall, what exactly did you instlal?
[04:18] <Marfi> fekall, compizconfig-settings-manager. if you have problems with hte borders missing, you will need compiz-gnome also
[04:19] <Undead_Zeus> error: SDL.h: No such file or directory. In KDevelop, I am trying to compile the default SDL project. Can someone help me?
[04:19] <jimmygoon> fekall, google for "gutsy custom compiz" and it will come up, add "fusion" as a keyword if necessary and it will tell you the exact packages to install to get the "Compiz Config Panel" or what not
[04:19] <fekall> thank you marfi!
[04:19] <Marfi> fekall, np. =)
[04:19] <Peddy> calm: right click an MP3, click on properties, click on 'open with' and select RB.
[04:19] <jimmygoon> fekall, or just listen to Marfi who is less lazy than I
[04:19] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | fekall
[04:19] <ubotu> fekall: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[04:19] <Marfi> Peddy, if i was able to afford it, i would too. =)
[04:19] <bpds> calm: I use rhythmbox to manage my entire music player.  I use totem to play individual files.
[04:19] <task0> bazhang_: what can i do with a perl library?
[04:19] <Marfi> calm, amarok is nice also
[04:20] <Marfi> calm, especially for large playlists
[04:20] <task0> bazhang_: i have this... http://www.unesco.org/isis/files/winisis/unix/cds-isis.tar but i dont know how to use it
[04:20] <bpds> calm: I meant manage my entire music collection not player...
[04:20] <DG19075> VLC is good too
[04:20] <Peddy> Marfi: I would download it if the torrent doesn't take 5 weeks, like Deluge is saying.
[04:20] <Rafabe> hi...can Ubuntu read/write to an NTFS partition?
[04:20] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, install the libsdl-dev package (use "apt-cache search" to find it) and install apt-file to use it for finding packages that contain files like "SDL.h" in the future ---- trust me... it is VERY useful
[04:20] <calm> Peddy: That's exactly what I'm talking about. That doesn't work.
[04:20] <zdh> Rafabe: yes
[04:20] <adamonline45> How can I install Wext?
[04:20] <Marfi> Peddy, i don't blame you one bit
[04:20] <hockeyfan5000> good things come to those who wait
[04:20] <bazhang_> task0: it's a module that will read ISIS databases
[04:20] <Peddy> Marfi personally I think torrents are crap
[04:20] <Rafabe> zdh: will I need to play around in configuration files, or will it do it natively?
[04:20] <soldats> bpds: rythmbox is better for both of you wats for music library and single file if you need a better single file player id suggest using a command line based player such as mocp
[04:20] <prak> would brasero or gnomebaker be suitable for burning vcd?
[04:20] <calm> Peddy: If you actually try that, and then double-click on an audio file, Rhythmbox will open, but it doesn't play the file.
[04:21] <task0> bazhang_: can i PM?
[04:21] <jimmygoon> Peddy, got your firewall set up right? or better yet, does your torrent have decent seeders/peers?
[04:21] <soldats> task0: if your registered
[04:21] <zdh> Rafabe: you dont have to do anything
[04:21] <Peddy> Calm: ok sorry :) I can't help you with that
[04:21] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: Thanks, much appreciated, i will let you know if it works
[04:21] <Rafabe> thanks zdh
[04:21] <jimmygoon> Peddy, if so then your only limiting factor should be seeding peers and your bandwidth download
[04:21] <zdh> np :)
[04:21] <bazhang_> task0: I really know nothing about this--I'm at the limit already
[04:21] <Peddy> jimmygoon: 42 seeders.
[04:21] <ToddEDM> hey guys, how do i get a dock at the top of my screen, like osx
[04:21] <bazhang_> !piracy | Peddy
[04:21] <ubotu> Peddy: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[04:22] <jimmygoon> bazhang_, were just talking about torrent speeds now... its ok
[04:22] <soldats> ToddEDM: google gkrellm
[04:22] <Kornholijo> !o4o | dinmammasux
[04:22] <ubotu> dinmammasux: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[04:22] <tarelerulz> Marfi , I installed utorrent with wine and have not looked back .  deluge works ok ,but not the best bit torrent out there . Azureus is good ,but take a lot of configing
[04:22] <zdh> what about ktorrent?
[04:22] <tarelerulz> You can ip blocking it with just an plugin
[04:22] <task0> bazhang_: maybe you can at least give a look at that tar and see if you can imagine how do i run that soft
[04:22] <kelsin> tarelerulz: Marfi i enjoy rtorrant a whole bunch, have firefox auto put .torrent's into my watch folder, no thought at all
[04:22] <Peddy> ToddEDM: Avant window manager is good, I am using it now
[04:22] <soldats> tarelerulz: ktorrent is a lot better even azures is for linux and is superior
[04:22] <bazhang_> ToddEDM: the avant window manager will do it at the bottom--if that helps--looks just like leopard dock iirc
[04:22] <prak> would brasero or gnomebaker be suitable for burning vcd?
[04:23] <jimmygoon> tarelerulz, deluge has that too
[04:23] <kelsin> task0: it's compiled for AT&T unix, might be pretty hard, I doubt most in this channel will have any experience with that
[04:23] <jimmygoon> tarelerulz, I had been using utorrent/wine but the integration was nice....
[04:23] <Peddy> !guidelines
[04:23] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:23] <bazhang_> task0: no idea--untar it and then install it I imagine
[04:23] <kelsin> task0: I would start by reading the readme file in the tar
[04:23] <thor> ToddEDM also look at wbar
[04:23] <ToddEDM> well im installing gkrellm
[04:23] <jimmygoon> tarelerulz, I liked azurues but the java overhead and the weird ubuntu-packaging problems from a year+ ago kinda discouraged me
[04:23] <soldats> gkrellm isnt tat bad in my opinion
[04:24] <thenetduck> to install the core for fxce4 I need to just type in "sudo apt-get install fxce4-core" ?
[04:24] <tarelerulz> I have used rtorrent , Ktorrent and Deluge and found Utorrent is still the best and easyest to use.  <but maybe I did not know how to config the other right or had hard place to get torrents from
[04:24] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: How do I use apt-file to find SDL.h?
[04:24] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, is it installed?
[04:24] <bazhang_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620261 prak
[04:24] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: I just installed it
[04:24] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, "apt-file search SDL.h" should do it
[04:24] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: you need to install the libsdl.h packages then I think you need to include "SDL/SDL.h" not just "SDL.h" or vice versa, I forget
[04:25] <soldats> tarelerulz: ktorrnet is alot like utorrent in config youdo it through the gui
[04:25] <ToddEDM> soldats:  where do i configure/start it, after i installed it
[04:25] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, you can also use the web interface which may actually be faster .... http://packages.ubuntu.com (I think(
[04:25] <task0> kelsin, bazhang_ no luck there... i dont have really any experience buiding/or compiling things... the readme does not give me any information i can understand :(
[04:25] <soldats> terminla gkrellm i think i havent used it in a while
[04:25] <thenetduck> Does anyone know what the command is to install the XFCE4 core? is it xfce4-core ??
[04:25] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, libsdl1.2-dev: usr/include/SDL/SDL.h
[04:26] <Marfi> tarelerulz, azureus = horrible for linux. always crashes for me
[04:26] <ToddEDM> you were right
[04:26] <kelsin> task0: it's also a binary tar file for AT&T unix, not exactly linux, I doubt you'll have much luck, I know that's way before my time lol
[04:26] <Peddy> bazhang: sorry about that, I actually was only here to check my CPU specs. but that is no excuse for talking about installing a modified version of OSX which I would happily pay for, on a non-apple PC. Sorry again!
[04:26] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know why web pages time out.  I am using ndiswrapper to load my wireless card  . I get irc and synaptic to work ,but web pages time out
[04:26] <Undead_Zeus> Ok, yes I found it
[04:26] <jimmygoon> thenetduck, *just* the core? or are you converting to xfce?
[04:26] <Undead_Zeus> but how do I fetch it?
[04:26] <riotkittie> uh
[04:26] <Dankchild> hey guys im having some counter-strike source problems. ive installed it through wine and all it does is show the picture of the two policemen and then go away no error or anything.
[04:26] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: the libsdl-dev package?
[04:26] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, "sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev"
[04:27] <Marfi> Dankchild, are you using steam to play it?
[04:27] <tarelerulz> Azureus is hard on windows and even hard on Linux and i have  yet to get it installed right on Ubuntu .  I have had synaptic not install a lot of programs wrong
[04:27] <Undead_Zeus> kelsin,jimmygoon: I already have it
[04:27] <calm> I guess my problem was already known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rhythmbox/+bug/62430
[04:27] <Dankchild> marfi, yes
[04:27] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, heh, you need that package installed, not just that file otherwise you'll be retreiving individual files.... for like the next three weeks... there could be hundreds->thousands of individual files
[04:27] <kitche> Dankchild: it's all on steam website on how to get CS:S running under steam. which works
[04:27] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: did you try my suggestiong of changing the includes from "SDL.h" to "SDL/SDL.h"?
[04:27] <riotkittie> "...not install a lot of programs wrong"?
[04:27] <thenetduck> jimmygoon, just the core, I don't want any apps installed but the ubuntu base system and place I can build from scratch what I want my system to look like
[04:27] <task0> kelsinn, any channel for asking help on  AT&T unix?
[04:27] <thenetduck> jimmygoon, converting from gentoo
[04:28] <kelsin> task0: I have no idea, I have not met one person still using a AT&T branded version of unix
[04:28] <rubim> #ubuntu_brasil
[04:28] <thor> ToddEDM right click on gkrellm to configure it
[04:28] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, oh, um, try checking the include paths as kelsin is suggesting and then take things to ##workingset or ##C++ and check your compiling commands, etc
[04:28] <soldats> tarelerulz: i used azures for a long tiem but it was slow i had noproblem with it crashing but i believe ktorrent is superior because it a derivitive of utorrent
[04:28] <Marfi> Dankchild, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:28] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: or the sdl forums / mailing lists
[04:28] <jimmygoon> thenetduck, ah, cause the only thing I know of is "xubuntu-desktop" which is the whole shebang sorry
[04:28] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: it is already installed; kelsin: I just did that and it doesn't give me that particular error, but it does give me errors "undefined reference to 'SDL_Init'" and several others
[04:29] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: or you solved your first problem
[04:29] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, those sound like library linking errors
[04:29] <kelsin> not you have to configure KDevelop to include the libsdl libraies
[04:29] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, which means install "libsdl1.2" now
[04:29] <Dankchild> marfi, feisty
[04:29] <jimmygoon> :P
[04:29] <Undead_Zeus> kelsin,jimmygoon: i guess it is a matter of configuring KDevelopp now
[04:29] <kelsin> the -lSDL gcc command line
[04:29] <jimmygoon> that too
[04:29] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: I have no experience with KDevelop so good luck
[04:29] <mogra> which package contains ffmpeg's dev files, like avcodec.h?
[04:30] <task0> kelsin thanks any way =(
[04:30] <Marfi> Dankchild, yes, but what version of wine?
[04:30] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: It says it is not available
[04:30] <Xacarith> So, how can one just lose their network after leaving the computer sitting doing nothing for a few hours?
[04:30] <prak> thanks bazhang_
[04:30] <tarelerulz> soldats, I did not know ktorrent was a derivitive of utorrent .  I might give it other look once I get wireless working
[04:30] <Undead_Zeus> Package libsdl1.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:31] <kitche> Xacarith: means the network card was put to sleep to save energy most likely
[04:31] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, listen to kelsin he is right
[04:31] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, make sure you link against SDL and you should be fine
[04:31] <Xacarith> if it where I'd have lost internet connection as well, which I have not
[04:31] <Dankchild> marfi, the latest
[04:31] <soldats> tarelerulz: if you got to the config menu in ktorrent you should be able to set it up for what you need if you need more help with it just ask
[04:31] <ToddEDM> ok how do i get this avant window manager?
[04:31] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: you're problem now probably has to do with configuring your KDevelop project to include the libsdl library, libsdl1.2-dev depends on the main library
[04:31] <jimmygoon> is ktorrent reliant upon the qt core though?
[04:32] <jimmygoon> thats why I hate dealing with kAPPNAME stuff :(
[04:32] <kitche> jimmygoon: it needs qt to run
[04:32] <Undead_Zeus> Argh
[04:32] <Undead_Zeus> So much work to make SDL work
[04:32] <Marfi> Dankchild, .9.49 has a platinum rank with CS:S on wineHQ. can you get the exact version of it for me?  =)
[04:32] <mogra> which package contains ffmpeg's dev files, like avcodec.h?
[04:32] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: it's all part of learning how to program in c/c++
[04:32] <Jordan_U> jimmacdonald, You might like deluge-torrent or rtorrent
[04:32] <xzased> HI, me again. I managed to mount my shared folders using smb... now, is it possible to browse shared folders wirelessly -my shift key doesnt work-
[04:33] <DivideZer> someone know how to edit\compile open source ( notepad2 ) in windows ? ( writen in c++ ) ?
[04:33] <kelsin> xzased: what do you mean wirelessly? Any time you're own your home network you'll can browse to that share, wireless makes no difference
[04:33] <Dankchild> marfi, i think its 0.9.50
[04:33] <kelsin> DivideZer: not really a good question for this channel
[04:34] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, trust me. it oooonly gets worse :( but then much later it gets better
[04:34] <DivideZer> :( though people here understnad in source codes
[04:34] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: something to look forward to :P
[04:34] <kelsin> DivideZer: if you stayed in the channel long I'm sure you qould realize the opposite
[04:34] <xzased> I mean, if I can browse the shared folder on a wired pc while I am using wireless
[04:34] <kelsin> xzased: sure
[04:35] <soldats> DivideZer, if you want it you could use wine and download the .exe and run it in wine
[04:35] <jimmygoon> DivideZer, this is a room for ubuntu as in the operating system
[04:35] <DivideZer> a ko sorry
[04:35] <xzased> Great. Thanks man
[04:35] <jimmygoon> DivideZer, are you trying to edit it and change the windows executable or what? try ##C++
[04:35] <Xacarith> Next question, why do my network settings keep changing them selves.  My workgroup keeps changing it's self back to 'WORKGROUP' and my server string keeps going to 'Samba 3.0.26a'
[04:35] <kelsin> Xacarith: how are you setting them?
[04:36] <jimmygoon> I wished nm-applet and my "Location" setting in the network-admin panel worked together :/
[04:36] <nickrud> floodbot?
[04:36] <Marfi> Dankchild, i have no idea. according to wineHQ, it should work OOTB
[04:36] <Xacarith> Through Samba  Um Configure - KDE control Module
[04:36] <soldats> nickrud, i think it controls how many people in a room
[04:37] <nickrud> soldats: yeah, I gathered that part; I wonder why
[04:37] <Dankchild> Marfi, i read somewhere that it wouldnt work with 9.49 or later, is there anyway i can downgrade?
[04:37] <kitche> nickrud: so the channel doesn't get flooded of course
[04:37] <soldats> nickrud, i have no idea the first time i ever saw it was today
[04:37] <andreuu> does bluetooth work on linux ?  I just a pair of blueant bluetooth headphones, what are the chances Ub will make them work ?
[04:37] <nickrud> kitche: ;p
[04:37] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon, kelsin: I don't know what happened, i put in "sdl-config --cflags --libs" in the link and configure flag thingys. It didn't work, i deleted them, now it works!
[04:37] <soldats> andreuu, yes
[04:37] <soldats> !bluetooth
[04:37] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:37] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, :S
[04:37] <soldats> !bluetooth |and
[04:37] <ubotu> and: please see above
[04:38] <andreuu> awesome, umm what if it has a proprietary mode on the usb dongle as well...
[04:38] <andreuu> ndiswrapper ..mmaybe ?
[04:38] <Undead_Zeus> Uhh, one more thing...
[04:38] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, so you are using autotools? or using your IDE's built in toolchain - that was the first step that I relaized was bad
[04:38] <Kornholijo> ndiswrapper suxors
[04:38] <Undead_Zeus> "/bin/sh: konsole: not found"
[04:38] <Undead_Zeus> i am using auto tools
[04:38] <oldmanstan> anybody know if i can run a dhcp server behind a router that's already running one? can i forward the port dhcp uses? if so, what port does it use by default?
[04:38] <Undead_Zeus> since I don't know how to make makefiles
[04:38] <Kornholijo> erm
[04:38] <soldats> andreuu, i havent read it because i dont use  it but i hear it works for many thing id suggest reading it
[04:38] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, the various IDE's don't give very good control IMO over that stuff... so I ended up doing it all manually :P
[04:39] <Kornholijo> oldmanstan: disable routers dhcp
[04:39] <andreuu> yeah the other q wasnt about bt, but thanks guys
[04:39] <Kornholijo> then google for dhcps port
[04:39] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, if it makes any difference autotools is makefiles... just ... diferent
[04:39] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: one day when I need to worry about speed, i will investigate makefiles
[04:39] <kelsin> oldmanstan: you can't have two dhcp servers on the same network reliably, due to what they have to do, they listen on 255.255.255.255
[04:39] <soldats> andreuu, bt?
[04:39] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: maybe then I will have a better understanding
[04:40] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, its not that... its that if you end up using "oddball" libraries or need special "cases" in compiling you will have to have more fine control
[04:40] <oldmanstan> ahh, i see, then will i still be able to get on the interwebs and such if the machine with the dhcp server running is powered off?
[04:40] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: by autotools did you mean Kdevelop and IDE's in general?
[04:40] <Undead_Zeus> kelsin: i just meant the package thing i got...automake or something of the sort
[04:40] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, like I wanted one autotools setup to work in windows and linux and so I had to learn to do the testing for if winpcap then link with winpcap else link against libpcap.... etc
[04:40] <ricksta> What would you all recommend.... ubuntu? or xubuntu?
[04:41] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, learn C++ first though :P it helps makes sense of the rest of it.... and maybe its all overkil for what you want/need
[04:41] <jsoftw> ubuntu
[04:41] <nickrud> ricksta: xubuntu on older machines
[04:41] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, just my thoughts
[04:41] <jsoftw> You can still install kde later on
[04:41] <kelsin> ricksta: read up about the differences  between gnome and xfce, and then decide based on features / look
[04:41] <Rug> ricksta: I use Fluxbox
[04:41] <jsoftw> or whatever you want
[04:41] <soldats> ricksta, i use xubuntu and my personal opinion is itsa faster
[04:41] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: yeah... i just wanted to get some code down first..before i had to start worrying about linking and compiling and makefiles and all sorts of other stuff
[04:41] <jamescarr> "The little bitch is off to see the Wizard" lol
[04:41] <jsoftw> There is even fubuntu I think
[04:41] <Undead_Zeus> jimmygoon: i just want to make a few applications with SDL :P
[04:41] <soldats> ricksta, mostly looks the same but xfce is smaller and should run faster
[04:41] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: you might be better off using gcc on the command line
[04:41] <kitche> !language | jamescarr
[04:41] <ubotu> jamescarr: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:41] <jimmygoon> ricksta, right now, ubuntu w/ gnome... but in the future.... maybe ubuntu/kubuntu with kde4 --- cause it looks awesome!
[04:42] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: since KDevelop and all others on linux normally use them anyway
[04:42] <Undead_Zeus> kelsin: i like kdevelop, it has some nifty features
[04:42] <Dankchild> marfi, would you know how to downgrade to 9.40?
[04:42]  * nickrud gets it now
[04:42] <jimmygoon> Is flooding painful to the server or something?
[04:42] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: just pointing it out, since the problems you've come here with are common things to learn about when using the toolchain yourself
[04:42] <Undead_Zeus> What I look for in most programming language editors is projects, and if I have that, I am fine
[04:43] <ferrero-de-merde> hello
[04:43] <willskills> help folks - has anyone had any success using a Canon Powershot as a webcam?
[04:43] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, ##workingset is AWESOME. They are really help ful for the noobie autotools stuff :)
[04:43] <ferrero-de-merde> nope, it's painful for our eyes
[04:43] <soldats> !noob | jimmygoon
[04:43] <ubotu> jimmygoon: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:43] <ricksta> so, if my computer has like 256 mb ram and about 1.5 ghz..... what would be better for me xubuntu or ubuntu?
[04:43] <Undead_Zeus> What does "toolchain" mean?
[04:43] <jimmygoon> soldats, oh well
[04:43] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: the tools used, gcc, ld, etc
[04:44] <soldats> ricksta, xfce i have what you have and i find it superior
[04:44] <kelsin> Undead_Zeus: KDevelop and most other gnubased IDEs all use those on the back end
[04:44] <willskills> ricksta, - buy some more ram, if you can afford it :)
[04:44] <nickrud> ricksta: xubuntu, definitely until you put in at least 512 , or more
[04:44] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, I (probably improeperly) use it to refer to autotools and automake/ makefiles autoconf/configure.ac  etc
[04:44] <Marfi|anime> jimmygoon, this was explained to me when i first started messing with linux. KDE is linux wanting to look and act like windows, Gnome is linux wanting to look and act like a mac. =)
[04:44] <jimmygoon> Undead_Zeus, which is a lot of the stuff behind the scenes
[04:44] <soldats> jimmygoon, im sorry i did that but i have nothing wrong with that word but some people do so i like to try to keep with the majority rule
[04:44] <Undead_Zeus> ah hah...
[04:45] <ricksta> ic... thanx for all of your help. :)
[04:45] <nickrud> lol Marfi|anime that's blasphemous
[04:45] <thor> ricksta I use xfce on a 1.75G coreduo with 1gb ram...runs pretty quick <smile>
[04:45] <tarelerulz> I read the new ndiswrapper Says I need kernel 2.6.26 . How would I go about getting that . any way with synaptic
[04:45] <jimmygoon> soldats, its fine but I'm guessing the rule was meant to be so that users wouldn't be rude and call each other names, etc, which wasn't my intention
[04:45] <Marfi|anime> nickrud, compare the look of both of them. KDE menu, start menu. menu bar at the top, Gnome menu bar. ;)
[04:45] <nickrud> tarelerulz: no, you'd need to roll a custom one
[04:45] <soldats> ricksta, i have ubuntu with the same ram as you it ran fine until i had all the apps i wanted, at that time it ran really sow but with xfce it runs a lot smoother
[04:45] <jimmygoon> Marfi|anime, thats a bit pretentious :P
[04:45] <ferrero-de-merde> ricksta, i aam running BOTH, xubuntu ANd Ubuntu, with 1.8 running at 2.4 and 256
[04:45] <kelsin> tarelerulz: no where, 2.6.26 is not out yet
[04:45] <Marfi|anime> KDE's sucking of resources...windows. =P
[04:45] <Undead_Zeus> ##workingset is relatively dead compared to this channel. I have one more question: "konsole not found"
[04:45] <ricksta> as of right now, im using xubuntu..... but i notice some lagg.... and i cant really run many programs at once
[04:45] <mogra>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext... ?
[04:45] <nickrud> Marfi|anime: been using gnome for years, it's nothing like a mac :)
[04:45] <hockeyfan5000> Has anyone seen when you change your resolution that compiz just stops working?
[04:46] <tarelerulz> I am really lost as to what I need to do to get my wireless card working
[04:46] <LadyLike> hello
[04:46] <soldats> jimmygoon, yes i just realized that but that word is not such a great adjective in itself
[04:46] <Marfi|anime> nickrud, i know. it just has some similarities in look imo
[04:46] <jimmygoon> Marfi|anime, all I know, is the awful default theme of KDE/Kubuntu now is so awful that I can't even come close to trying to delve through it... its just so repulsive
[04:46] <LadyLike> wanna ask..how to set beryl running at startup
[04:46] <soldats> tarelerulz, have ou looked at the forums or googled it
[04:46] <ricksta> brb
[04:46] <Marfi|anime> jimmygoon, thus why i use gnome
[04:46] <ToddEDM> thor i dont think gkrellm is what im looking for
[04:46] <Dankchild> hey guys how would i go about downgrading to a different version of wine?
[04:47] <kelsin> Dankchild: any reason you want to do this?
[04:47] <nickrud> Dankchild: apt-get remove wine , then dpkg -i the version you want.
[04:47] <WGGMk> Q: Is there a way to access an ext3 filesystem in windows xp???
[04:47] <realshiva> hi, how can i find out how big a folder an his subfolders are ?
[04:47] <kelsin> realshiva: the du command "man du" for more details
[04:47] <Dankchild> kelsin, the newer version doesnt work with counterstrike
[04:47] <ToddEDM> what im looking for is ... i think its stardock on windows..
[04:47] <jimmygoon> Marfi|anime, that could change for me though.... I'm painfully used to gedit/nautilus/etc... especially with the latest bits of integration from compiz/gnome/appearance/etc and the evolution of the preferences/admin stuff.... but meh, change is good
[04:47] <realshiva> thx kelsin
[04:47] <soldats> realshiva, du command
[04:47] <tarelerulz> I have 3 or 4 different drivers  with ndiswrapper and my wireless card still don't work .  I think maybe b43 might work ,but I don't know how to install b43 fwcutter   either compiling it or synaptic
[04:47] <jimmygoon> ToddEDM, :( you won't get bloated spyware in ubuntu :P
[04:47] <thor> ToddEDM, you mean sysmetrix?
[04:48] <ToddEDM> i want all the icons in my panel on a dock
[04:48] <jimmygoon> ToddEDM, try avant-window-navigator
[04:48] <nickrud> tarelerulz: try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:48] <thor> ToddEDM...for that try wbar
[04:48] <Marfi|anime> jimmygoon, i agree with you...but after looking at some of the pics for KDE 4, looks too much like the big fat Vista
[04:48] <ToddEDM> jimmygoon:  something similar
[04:48] <jimmygoon> ToddEDM, thats basically exactly what you want I think
[04:48] <SamFisher47> hi, i was applying some gutsy tweaks, but now when i restart, it says "hailed to initialize hal"
[04:48] <ToddEDM> wbar
[04:48] <SamFisher47> any ideas?
[04:48] <Hammer89> Hello. I'm running Gutsy on a LiveCD... and I noticed that my headphone jack isn't working... anyone know how to fix that?
[04:48] <ToddEDM> ok thor
[04:48] <kelsin> SamFisher47: what tweaks were you adding?
[04:48] <tarelerulz> Nickrud I did try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter and it said it could not work
[04:49] <nickrud> tarelerulz: 'it said it could not work' doesn't mean much
[04:49] <jimmygoon> Marfi|anime, they haven't finalized that though.... that is just the default style of their "widgets" or whatever ... which the taskbar is... the last screencast says thats going to change
[04:49] <SamFisher47> various tweaks, such as disabling bluetooth services, etc, from various websites
[04:49] <tarelerulz> I could try it again and see what it tell me
[04:49] <Viaken2> Ok, so fun question. Is there a quick command to reinstall...everything?
[04:49] <danbhfive> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches     Question: how do I run that command as root?
[04:49] <ToddEDM> how do i get avant-window-navigator from terminal
[04:49] <soldats> ToddEDM, avant maybe
[04:50] <Viaken2> danbhfive: sudo echo 3 | tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[04:50] <nickrud> tarelerulz: I'm no wireless guru, I'm just talking about install here, by the way :)
[04:50] <jsoftw> danbhfive: either su - to root, or sudo <command here>
[04:50] <Marfi|anime> ToddEDM, you'll have to do a google search to add the repository to your sources.lst file
[04:50] <kelsin> Viaken2: what is your goal, is your install screwed up in some way?
[04:50] <ToddEDM> ok Marfi|anime
[04:50] <danbhfive> Viaken2 interesting
[04:50] <SamFisher47> i will brb, one possible solution is to disable auto-login
[04:50] <soldats> ToddEDM, try "avant" in a terminal
[04:50] <nickrud> jsoftw: you should recommend sudo -i for the root shell, helps reduce confusion :)
[04:50] <mogra>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext ??? any help?
[04:51] <Marfi|anime> ToddEDM, avant-window-manager-svn in synaptic. my bad. ;)
[04:51] <danbhfive> jsoftw: su'ing to root works, but sudo did not, thats why I was asking for help actually
[04:51] <vn> hi, I can't type in my password at the splash screen because it has an "é" and I can't type those, what can I do?
[04:51] <jimmygoon> Marfi|anime, in official ubuntu repos?
[04:51] <vn> on Gutsy
[04:51] <Hammer89> *tries again* :) I'm running Gutsy on a LiveCD... and I noticed that my headphone jack isn't working... anyone know how to fix that?
[04:51] <Marfi|anime> ToddEDM, avant-window-navigator-svn
[04:51] <WGGMk> is it possible to access an ubuntu hard drive from windows?
[04:51] <jsoftw> danbhfive: yeah I dont really use sudo a lot. If I need a root shell I su -
[04:51] <Marfi|anime> jimmygoon, yup, just checkedi t
[04:51] <jimmygoon> vn, log in as single user and change your pw
[04:51] <Viaken2> kelsin: Err, yeah. Last boot, got complaints of /usr/lib/libgnomeui2.so.0 not existing. A little troubleshooting and I ran fsck from the LiveCD and it removed /usr/lib.
[04:52] <mwilliam13> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:52] <nickrud> danbhfive: sudo -i didn't give you a rot shell?
[04:52] <tarelerulz> Getting wireless working with Ubuntu seem like pipe dream for the most part
[04:52] <jimmygoon> Viaken2, I'm sorry, but when I read that I laughed out loud
[04:52] <Viaken2> kelsin: Apparently if fsck.jfs can't fix a directory listing, it just removes it. :P
[04:52] <Viaken2> jimmygoon: No problem. :P I did, too.
[04:52] <soldats> nickrud, su gives you a root shell as well
[04:52] <mwilliam13> ext file systems in windows   http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:52] <kelsin> Viaken2: well there could be reasons it can't, I would just install again, def quicker then trying to dpkg install stuff
[04:52] <jimmygoon> mwilliam13, are you just spamming that or what?
[04:52] <nickrud> soldats: true, but most people don't have a root password here
[04:53] <mwilliam13> no...  there was a question from WGGMk
[04:53] <Viaken2> My /home is fine and I can run apt-get/aptitude from a chroot. :P
[04:53] <jimmygoon> I thought it was "sudo -s"
[04:53] <K_Dallas> Q: I have installed office2003 via crossover office, and intend to install the tool that MS offers for office2003 users so that they could open 2007 file formats.  However, that requires SP3 and when I try to install it again via crossover, is says it is missing windows staller (I think the MSI thinggie).  Anyway to solve this? thanks
[04:53] <jimmygoon> :P I think ew've had this disco before
[04:53] <jimmygoon> mwilliam13, ok, my bad :)
[04:53] <Viaken2> Ah ok...I can do that, too. I suppose. :P
[04:53] <soldats> nickrud, ahh just a suggestion to the person your trying to help
[04:53] <nickrud> jimmygoon: that gives you your personal home as $HOME , -i uses /root
[04:53] <mwilliam13> sure thing
[04:53] <mogra> lXext? google search says xlibs-dev, but that's installed already
[04:53] <vn> jimmygoon: you mean recovery mode?
[04:53] <kelsin> jimmygoon: sudo -s gives you a root shell, sudo -i gives you a root login shell so you get a new env and your home dir set correctly and stuff like that
[04:54] <nickrud> jimmygoon: -s can make your dotfiles root owned if you're not careful
[04:54] <jimmygoon> nickrud, :O
[04:54] <danbhfive> nickrud: well I dunno, I actually got into a root shell by running 'sudo su'.   The reason I asked the question is that I wanted to know how to run it from the command line, without having to start up a root shell
[04:54] <jimmygoon> nickrud, that would actually explain some things :/
[04:54] <jimmygoon> vn, um yeah
[04:54] <vn> damn it was THAT easy!
[04:54] <nickrud> jimmygoon: it's why people say 'use gksudo' with gnome
[04:54] <soldats> vn, google ubuntu dapper and the dapper page will show up and pind the section about changing the root passowrd or the password you need to change in cli
[04:54] <tarelerulz> With  bcm43xx-fwcutter  do you still need a driver file ?
[04:55] <vn> soldats: got it, thanks
[04:55] <vn> but still...how do I get my é at the splash screen?
[04:55] <soldats> vn, ok cool im glad
[04:55] <vn> had that problem on dapper, edgy, opensuse 1.2 and 10.3,,,
[04:55] <soldats> vn, you may need to use some "alt ***" commands
[04:55] <soldats> if they work
[04:55] <mwilliam13> tarelerulz:  no.  if you have a broadcom wifi card, the bcm43xx-fwcutter will do it... you must have a dell laptop.
[04:55] <vn> such as?
[04:56] <soldats> vn, try looking at your charmap and see what the command is im not fluent in odd letters
[04:56] <tarelerulz> I have a HP Pavillion dv600 laptop  and a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) wireless card
[04:57] <mwilliam13> tarelerulz:  ah.  dell brands a broadcomm card as their own "true mobile" but still utilize the broadcom drivers... it should still work out for you though.
[04:57] <SamFisher47> hi, my hal is still not working
[04:57] <SamFisher47> despite turning off auto-login
[04:57] <c0Ld> If I were to buy a new hard drive, would there be a simple way to copy my entire filesystem's partition onto it? Mine's an old IDE clunker and I'm looking to get something with a bit more speed.
[04:58] <soldats> vn, U+00E9
[04:58] <vn> how do I do that?
[04:58] <SamFisher47> i believe the last 'tweak' i applied was to add profile to the end of the grub entry, and boot
[04:58] <soldats> vn, its what my charmap says
[04:58] <gunnar> how do i uninstall enlightement 16 ?
[04:58] <vn> k
[04:58] <tarelerulz> This may sound dumb ,but do you need to donwload  driver files or does it get the information from the hardware its
[04:58] <gunnar> i want to use e17
[04:58] <SamFisher47> anyone know how to fix the 'failed to initialize hal' error?
[04:58] <soldats> vn, im not sure i usually copy paste but i believe it with the "alt"key
[04:58] <SamFisher47> kelsin?
[04:58] <vn> soldats: I guess it has to do with my locale?
[04:58] <vn> k
[04:59] <gunnar> how do i uninstall e16
[04:59] <mwilliam13> c0Ld: you can use any imaging software, such as tools on a live disc on gparted
[05:00] <mogra> gunnar: in Gutsy? sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[05:00] <mogra> or searh enlightenment in Synaptic
[05:00] <gunnar> i just installed e17 but i cant use it because i only enter the old one
[05:00] <soldats> gunnar, sudo apt-get autoremove enlightenment"
[05:00] <nickrud> gunnar: use synaptic, ctl-f enlightenment , mark all for deletion
[05:00] <mwilliam13> c0Ld: go here:  http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=134457\\
[05:00] <mwilliam13> c0Ld: go here:  http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=134457
[05:00] <danbhfive> c0Ld: why dont you just backup the /home directory?
[05:00] <soldats> gunnar, without quotes
[05:00] <andreuu> when I load emule from a term window it has to stay open   , what do I do make a text file with sudo wine ~/.wine/c_drive/Program Files/emule/emule.exe in it
[05:00] <gunnar> thanks
[05:00] <andreuu> and chmod it and put it on desktop ?
[05:01] <nickrud> aho, that autoremove is useful after all
[05:01] <jimmygoon> andreuu, right click -> new- > launcher
[05:01] <soldats> nickrud, yes it is i use it alot
[05:01] <soldats> i try alot of packages and send error reports
[05:01] <nickrud> soldats: I use aptitude, so I haven't done much but notice it exists so far. I'll look closer, thanks
[05:02] <ethos> can anyone help me with ekiga? it says stun is blocked and i can't figure out the proper way to route it....
[05:02] <soldats> nickrud, hah not so may new people know about it but i have used it as well i think of it a a "dirty" way to uninstall
[05:02] <jimmygoon> I love dpkg and pkg management :)
[05:02] <ethos> ekida*
[05:02] <nickrud> soldats: pretty soon apt will catch up :)
[05:02] <spicky> عربي
[05:02] <soldats> nickrud, hah yea i think so too
[05:02] <nickrud> er, apt-get that is :)
[05:02] <revilodraw> when i open some avi files by double clicking on them mplayer gives me an error 'failed to open; filename.avi'.. but if i open mplayer first they play fine???
[05:03] <soldats> revilodraw, i think it is a bug it has happened to me as well
[05:03] <Pir8> What is the best video editing software package that folks would recommend?
[05:03] <makaveli> i just upgraded to feisty how do i change my repositories from edgy to feisty?
[05:03] <revilodraw> soldats; will it be fixed
[05:03] <tarelerulz>  bcm43xx-fwcutter  I get this Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by bcm43xx-fwcutter.
[05:03] <tarelerulz> This file has an unknown MD5sum 746f59822a5187510471fc46889b8cc9.
[05:03] <Pir8> s/best/best and free/
[05:03] <nickrud> makaveli: if you upgraded, they already are. you can check by looking at /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:03] <soldats> revilodraw, i believe its been reported so i assume it will if you like the player id suggest reporting it again
[05:04] <makaveli> nickrud: that's exactly what i needed thank you
[05:05] <ethos> do i need to tweak the ubuntu firewall for ekiga? i'm using a linux router btw
[05:06] <makaveli> nickrud: do you know of any other repositories i can add other than the restricted, multivers and univers?
[05:06] <nickrud> tarelerulz: there's a 008 release at http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547 for the cutter, you might check that out
[05:06] <revilodraw> soldats; i will do that... also vlc plays these same videos like its on lsd... complete blur
[05:07] <tarelerulz> Nickrud I did go there  ,but it don't tell you have to install  the the new fw cutter
[05:07] <nickrud> !seveas
[05:07] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for Feisty and earlier for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[05:07] <makaveli> does anyone know what the problem is if you click on gtk-gnutella from the internet menu and nothing happens tried reinstlalling and still does the same thing
[05:07] <soldats> revilodraw, hmm i will have to check in on that, your best bet is to use the one that plays the best for now. in the future it may be resolved, vlc has always worked for thogh
[05:07] <nickrud> makaveli: that's the only one I reccomend
[05:07] <makaveli> ok
[05:08] <Baumer> So after I installed ubuntu... it worked perfectly... then I hit the crt/lcd button to output it to a screen... it continued to work... Then I reset the computer... and now the graphics are all messed up... It can't sense my graphics card or something...
[05:08] <andreuu> how do i get a ctrl alt del task manger type window ?
[05:08] <tarelerulz> it tell you how to use it one install hardware ,but not how to install it .
[05:08] <danbhfive> !medibuntu | makaveli
[05:08] <ubotu> makaveli: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:08] <nickrud> tarelerulz: what I was thinking is that that cutter might have updated info on files, and recognize your card
[05:08] <jimmygoon> ethos, did you install firestarter? otherwise there is no built in firewall for ubunut
[05:08] <jimmygoon> ethos, but yeah, you'll have to make exceptions throguh your router if ekiga needs to use certain ports
[05:09] <Baumer> I don't know what's happening with it... Any ideas?
[05:09] <Madpilot> jimmygoon, iptables is installed and running by default, actually, but it doesn't (IIRC) have any rules set
[05:09] <ethos> jimmygoon: i thought ubuntu asked me when i first installed it friday night about firewall settings... i didn't tell it to install...
[05:09] <soldats> andreuu, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_enable_Ctrl.2BAlt.2BDel_to_open_System_Monitor_in_GNOME this may help
[05:10] <tarelerulz> Nickrud that is what I thought too that is why I went there to b43  so I might get my card working
[05:10] <andreuu> ty
[05:10] <ethos> jimmygoon: i read on a thread about setting a certain port and i did that but it didn't do anything for me...
[05:10] <soldats> andreuu, not sure though but it may help
[05:10] <jimmygoon> Madpilot, I knew someone would say that :P
[05:10] <aubre> I bought a gateway laptop with ati 2400 video
[05:10] <tarelerulz> The part I had problem with is install the program itself and I don't see on the net any where how to install the b43-fwcuttter
[05:11] <jimmygoon> andreuu, gnome-system-monitor
[05:11] <Madpilot> jimmygoon, <shrug> Glad I could help. :)  Technically, firestarter is just a firewall manager/rule-creator, not the actual firewall.
[05:11] <Baumer> Anyone know how I can test to make sure my graphics card is running
[05:11] <jimmygoon> Madpilot, so does it just modify iptables rules then?
[05:11] <Baumer> I feel like it's turned off or something
[05:12] <jimmygoon> Baumer, is there stuff on your screen?
[05:12] <suttin> LOL
[05:12] <Madpilot> jimmygoon, far as I know, ya. I could well be wrong, though.
[05:12] <suttin> erm, not ment to be in caps
[05:12] <ethos> jimmygoon: it tells me NAT couldn't be detected and the stun server status is blocked or something to that effect
[05:12] <aubre> do folks like the Intel 3645 wifi ?
[05:12] <Baumer> Ubuntu switched to some general driver... and everytime I switch it to what it was before it switches back
[05:12] <Baumer> yeh... I guess it can't be off then
[05:12] <jimmygoon> ethos, yeah, it probably means that ekiga needs to talk on a port and your router is blocking it
[05:12] <revilodraw> what do y'all use to join avi's?
[05:12] <linxuz3r> whats new in ubuntu guys?
[05:13] <jimmygoon> linxuz3r, magic
[05:13] <soldats> ethos, use the router to forward the ports ekiga need to listen on
[05:13] <Baumer> Any ideas?
[05:13] <ethos> soldats: i'm looking it up now
[05:14] <nickrud> tarelerulz: what chip did you say you have
[05:14] <ethos> jimmygoon: the one offered on the thread didn't work so i'll search again
[05:14] <tarelerulz> nickrud I have Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)
[05:16] <revilodraw> what prog joins avis?
[05:16] <Viaken2> kelsin: Actually, come to think of it, I can't do a normal install. :-\
[05:16] <Viaken2> Wait, nevermind...
[05:16] <secret901> I just installed a program and it messed up when I try to log in Gnome.  I tried doing a apt-get remove of the application but it's still having the same problem.  Anyone know how I can remove traces of it?
[05:16] <Viaken2> It's just going to be a royal pain in the butt.
[05:16] <nickrud> tarelerulz: have you looked at this page: http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43?action=show&redirect=en%2Fusers%2FDrivers%2Fbcm43xx#devicefirmware
[05:17] <numerik> bonjour, hi
[05:17] <suttin> Hey guys, im a new ubuntu user, and a new linux user. I installed python using the synaptic packet manager, and i cant seem to find where it installed to. I did the same thing for thunderbird and had no problems, it went right into the Internet tab. anyone got any ideas?
[05:17] <Viaken2> suttin: python you can run from the terminal
[05:17] <Viaken2> open it and type "python"
[05:17] <suttin> thank you
[05:17] <Madpilot> suttin, Python the programming language? it won't have a menu entry
[05:17] <soldats> suttin, type python in a terminal or type "whereis python" in a terminal to see where it is
[05:17] <Baumer> Maybe I should just reinstall ubuntu... But I guess that must be a glitch... when you shut down ubuntu with it outputing to a second monitor?
[05:17] <secret901> My xsession-errors file is telling me that it's trying to run setuid or setguid, and it's not supported by GTK
[05:18] <suttin> thanks guys, so far good impressions comming from windows all my life
[05:18] <Viaken2> Always nice to hear. :)
[05:18] <secret901> what file should I edit to look for applications that run on startup?
[05:18] <andreuu> when I try ctrl alt del ,  I get               Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[05:18] <soldats> suttin, im glad your interested in linux
[05:19] <nickrud> suttin: you might want to search synaptic (ctl-f) python ide
[05:19] <tarelerulz> Thanks nickrud , I will give it a look . My lan don't work right either I can't get web pages they time out
[05:19] <nickrud> tarelerulz: I mention it because it has a link to firmware that should work
[05:19] <sexcopter> hi, is it possible with gparted to change a vfat partition to ntfs without wiping it?
[05:19] <tarelerulz> The only thing I can get is irc , synaptic on both lan or wireless so I am in pickle
[05:20] <soldats> sexcopter, i believe changing it invloves formatting it
[05:20] <sexcopter> soldats: d'oh, that could be a pain
[05:20] <tarelerulz> nickrud for my card controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02), That one ?
[05:21] <soldats> sexcopter, if im right then move your needed file to another HDD then format and make it ntfs
[05:21] <kkathman> im getting a message that says that my system is suddenly "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'   could this have been the result of a recent update?
[05:21] <lacuce> Hi, how do you unmount a media (sda#) and prevent it from auto mounting on startup?
[05:21] <revilodraw> kkathman; mine does that sometimes... very annoying
[05:21] <Viaken2> So is there absolutely no easy way to reinstall everything on the system without doing a full install? I'd really rather not have to fight through compiling my sound drivers again...
[05:21] <sexcopter> soldats: i'll probably do that eventually, but right now i'm low on free space, so need to free up a lotta stuff
[05:21] <kkathman> revilodraw,  have you found a solution?
[05:21] <secret901> do everything in the xinit directory get run at startup?
[05:21] <sexcopter> thanks anyway
[05:22] <revilodraw> kkathman; reboot
[05:22] <kkathman> lol
[05:22] <soldats> sexcopter, im sorry if you lived close to me i have a few spare HDDs i could spare
[05:22] <nickrud> tarelerulz: it mentioned 4311, and pointed to a driver to use the cutter on
[05:22] <kkathman> I'll try that
[05:22] <robert_> ugh
[05:22] <sexcopter> soldats: lol, no worries, cheers
[05:22] <soldats> sexcopter, dido
[05:22] <ToddEDM> ok that avant is cool, but i kinda want to do something with the panel at the top
[05:22] <devon> sup sluts
[05:22] <Viaken2> Ok, how about this. Does anyone know a file that keeps a list of the packages installed on your system? Something apt uses for housekeeping?
[05:23] <soldats> ToddEDM, check the avant home page
[05:23] <tarelerulz> Thanks nickrud  I will have to give it try .  I just want the wireless card to work so bad
[05:23] <revilodraw> devon; banning forvever!! lol
[05:23] <soldats> /etc/apps
[05:23] <choudesh> !ops | devon
[05:23] <ubotu> devon: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[05:23] <nickrud> tarelerulz: I finally got mine working, and pretend all is good
[05:23] <brandon_> hello people
[05:24] <kousotu> I'm having some issues with grub involving booting of indows, can someone help me?
[05:24] <GIGGLES> So how hard would it be to set up my Ubuntu Box as a remote machine if I had a dynamic IP?
[05:24] <soldats> !ask | kousotu
[05:24] <ubotu> kousotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <tarelerulz> Nickrud what does lspci say your wireless card ?
[05:24] <Shadow147> how do I get the setenv working?
[05:24] <lacuce> Hello, can anyone help me with unmounting?
[05:24] <Madpilot> choudesh, the trolling coward had already run away by the time you hit ops
[05:24] <kousotu> soldats: pay more attention, I aleady did ask
[05:24] <soldats> !ask | lacuce
[05:24] <ubotu> lacuce: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <macabro22> Hello
[05:24] <choudesh> Madpilot: I know. I am slow tonight. ;-)
[05:25] <soldats> kousotu, just ask it again i know its fgrowned upod but ask again
[05:25] <macabro22> I am having some trouble with audio
[05:25] <kousotu> lacuce: what's the problem you're having?
[05:25] <lacuce> soldats: i want to umount a media (sda#) and prevent it from auto mounting on startup
[05:25] <nickrud> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01) tarelerulz
[05:25] <Viaken2> GIGGLES: I access mine all the time. You'll want to look into "dynamic dns" services.
[05:25] <frank__> for some reason when i try to upgrade from FPawn it loses the network connection
[05:25] <aubre> lacuce, first do a fuser and the directory you are trying to unmount
[05:25] <Shadow147> lacuce just right click on the device on your desktop and click unmount
[05:25] <Jordan_U> GIGGLES, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[05:25] <MarcoDFW> does anyone manage to configure verizon + postfix ?
[05:25] <kousotu> soldats: I said: I'm having some issues with grub involving booting of windows, can someone help me?
[05:25] <andreuu> sudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"/emule/emule.exe works fine but the eMule icon the installer doesnt work
[05:25] <soldats> lacuce, if its automounting its probly something to do woth fstab i think
[05:25] <tarelerulz> Nickrud , I have the say ,but  rev 2
[05:25] <macabro22> some applications try to start something called jack
[05:25] <andreuu> even when i change the command line to the one that works in term
[05:26] <aubre> it will tell you the process number of what is keeping your umount from working
[05:26] <aubre> kill -9 that process id
[05:26] <nickrud> tarelerulz: yes, that's why I went looking for 02
[05:26] <Shadow147> how do I get the setenv working?
[05:26] <aubre> then you should be able to umount
[05:26] <macabro22> and I get this error message.. hang on
[05:26] <kousotu> I'm having some issues with grub involving booting of indows, can someone help me?
[05:27] <soldats> kousotu, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu this may help im not sure im just trying to help
[05:27] <nickrud> macabro22: jack is a sound server, supposed to be low latency I hear
[05:27] <jscinoz> Hey guys, i'm using an intel based wifi card with the driver iwl4965, i can connect to WPA networks but not WPA2 networks, any idea why i can't? I'm using network-manager if that helps.
[05:27] <Shadow147> I need to setup the compiling enviroment with CC gcc
[05:27] <macabro22> http://www.pastebin.ca/804181
[05:27] <Shadow147> !setenv
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about setenv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <rafal> ubuntu's firefox makes some ghay sounds when using search (ctrl+f)
[05:27] <nickrud> Shadow147: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:27] <rafal> how to stop this
[05:27] <kousotu> !grub
[05:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:27] <frank__> "cant d/l repositry indexes"
[05:27] <frank__> when i try to upgrade from feisty pawn
[05:27] <macabro22> nickrud: it seems I need it to run some video editing software
[05:27] <soldats> kousotu, did you get my message
[05:28] <soldats> kousotu, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[05:28] <Shadow147> nickrud I have build-essential package
[05:28] <nickrud> macabro22: don't know much about it, but that sounds believable
[05:28] <lacuce> soldats, what should i do with it? just delete media from fstab?
[05:28] <MarcoDFW> Hello I'm trying to configure mail server Posfix with verizon smtp anyone can help?
[05:28] <mikeooo> lol during upgrade more and more ram keeps being used
[05:28] <mikeooo> up to 3.6gb used
[05:28] <nickrud> Shadow147: so what's the issue? (i'm no developer, can help with itty bitty stuff there)
[05:28] <soldats> lacuce, possibly did you try to "unmount <sda**>"
[05:28] <rafal> ubuntu's firefox makes some annoying sounds when using search (ctrl+f), why?
[05:28] <Shadow147> nickrud I need to use the setenv command
[05:29] <soldats> lacuce, if it automounts it shouldbe in fstab so if its in there delete the entry
[05:29] <macabro22> even some other apps can't play sound sometimes as well
[05:29] <kousotu> ok, so how do I figure out whic partion is windows?
[05:29] <kousotu> cause Vista shows up, just not XP
[05:29] <lacuce> i did sudo umount <sda*>, it works, but it will be mounted on the next boot
[05:29] <soldats> kousotu, run fdisk -l in a terminal
[05:29] <macabro22> for example if I have skype running I get no sound in ut2004
[05:29] <bulmer> kousotu-> df -h tells you what type of partition
[05:29] <Shadow147> kousotu just look for a folder called windows
[05:29] <macabro22> how come? can someone help?
[05:30] <lacuce> soldats, so how do i prevent from auto-mounting?
[05:30] <kousotu> Shadow147: I have 2 a Vista and an XP
[05:30] <kousotu> for some reason Vista is not recognising XP like it should
[05:30] <Shadow147> kousotu oh ok
[05:30] <soldats> lacuce, if the device is in the fstab file delete the whole line in which it is listed
[05:30] <secret901> When I install an application that changes my init script, does it make a backup of my init script?
[05:30] <Shadow147> kousotu was vista your first install
[05:30] <bulmer> secret901-> no
[05:30] <ethos> jimmygoon: they don't address my issue in any way in the documentation. It told me if all else fails to foward to a certain port, i did and it didn't work either.....
[05:30] <kousotu> although, that is a smart idea, not that I think about it :)
[05:30] <aubre> lacuce you will probably need to edit /etc/fstab and comment it out
[05:31] <soldats> secret901, it should
[05:31] <secret901> bulmer: do you know which scripts are run on startup?
[05:31] <kousotu> Shadow147: nope, XP was
[05:31] <frank__> uh, can someone help me figure out how to upgrade FeistyPawn please
[05:31] <frank__> with update manager
[05:31] <lacuce> soldats. i'll try that, thanks
[05:31] <bulmer> secret901-> entries are added in /etc/init.d
[05:31] <frank__> its complaining about repositories
[05:31] <lacuce> aubre, thanks
[05:31] <rafal> frank__:  it just worked for me
[05:31] <interceptor> ubuntu-ru
[05:31] <interceptor> !ru
[05:31] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:31] <Shadow147> kousotu use linux's bootloader GRUB
[05:31] <soldats> lacuce, make sure you know exactly which one you want to delete so you diont accidently delete your bootpartition
[05:31] <aloha-frank> sigh
[05:31] <kousotu> althouhg, I could tell by the size of the partion
[05:32] <interceptor> how to jump to russian channel ?
[05:32] <Viaken2> Is there a command to find out what processes are accessing the hard disk? Like top, but with hard disk access? (And without a kernel module like atop?)
[05:32] <secret901> bulmer: so all scripts in that directory are run?
[05:32] <kousotu> Shadow147: that was the idea
[05:32] <soldats> !cv
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <bulmer> secret901-> plus a few more... /etc/rcX.d
[05:32] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[05:32] <soldats> oops yea its ru
[05:32] <secret901> bulmer: my problem app seems to occur when I load gnome
[05:32] <bulmer> secret901-> not all,  some may be started by inittab
[05:32] <Shadow147> kousotu well then GRUB should have found it
[05:32] <kousotu> it didn't
[05:32] <secret901> bulmer: I don't get problems when I use GNOME-safe
[05:32] <kousotu> and never did
[05:32] <kousotu> it picked up Vista
[05:33] <bulmer> secret901-> which gnome app would it be?
[05:33] <secret901> bulmer: it's called "xvnkb"
[05:33] <aloha-frank> uh, can someone help me figure out how to UPGRADE FeistyPawn please
[05:33] <rafal> aloha-frank: it should just work
[05:33] <nickrud> Shadow147: beyond me; the only setenv I found was in gnulib.
[05:33] <bulmer> secret901-> i dont know what that is
[05:34] <Shadow147> kousotu thats weird I have my Win XP reconized by Grub
[05:34] <kousotu> ok, XP is SDA1
[05:34] <secret901> bulmer: it's a keyboard utility that allows you to input text in a different language
[05:34] <kousotu> Shadow147: I have Xp and vista on this laptop
[05:34] <soldats> aloha-frank, sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade fiesty-fawn i think
[05:34] <bulmer> secret901-> well find out which gnome app calls it
[05:34] <secret901> bulmer: but I've removed it but it's still giving me problems, so I'm trying to remove all traces of it
[05:34] <kousotu> usually Vista picks up XP, but it's not for some dumb reason
[05:34] <Shadow147> ok
[05:34] <jakebourne> my box isn't picking up eth0... is there a way to change this?
[05:34] <abhi_> i'm facing a really weird problem, everytime i start up Gutsy, I have a gzip and a tar process running in the background which eats up my CPU usage and it's not for a short while it goes on until I kill it. What's wrong?
[05:34] <aloha-frank> soldats: i'm using the gui tool
[05:34] <secret901> bulmer: I think it's being run on startup
[05:35] <nickrud> kousotu: make a duplicate of the vista stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and change the device to sda1
[05:35] <bulmer> secret901-> then look around /etc/init.d
[05:35] <jscinoz> Hey guys, i'm using an intel based wifi card with the driver iwl4965, i can connect to WPA networks but not WPA2 networks, any idea why i can't? I'm using network-manager if that helps.
[05:35] <soldats> aloha-frank, i wonder why it doesnt say upgrade to fiesty-fawn
[05:35] <soldats> it normally should say it
[05:35] <nickrud> kousotu: er, that is, root (hd0,0)
[05:35] <Shadow147> kousotu well I have never used Vista after the RC@ release
[05:36] <aloha-frank> soldats: ?
[05:36] <Shadow147> RC2*
[05:36] <secret901> bulmer: the error message is: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.
[05:36] <soldats> aloha-frank, in the gui it should say upgrade i just wonder why it doesnt
[05:36] <dahitokiri> how can i disable smash stacking detection on my system?
[05:36] <soldats> aloha-frank, try the command line version
[05:37] <soldats> aloha-frank, have you googled it or checked the furum or the ubuntu home page
[05:37] <nickrud> abhi_: try ps aux , see what command is running the process, should be able to track it down that was
[05:37] <nickrud> *way
[05:37] <bulmer> secret901-> thats for that xvnkb ?
[05:37] <aloha-frank> soldats: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:37] <secret901> bulmer: I dunno, that's the error message in the error file when I try to log in GNOME
[05:38] <pipegeek> Hmmm....
[05:38] <kousotu> Shadow147: what is SD1? (hd0,0)?
[05:38] <bulmer> secret901-> thats a tuff one to find...i dont know where i'd  point you..sorry not much of a help
[05:38] <aloha-frank> soldats: "new distro 7.10" is available
[05:38] <secret901> !paste
[05:38] <dahitokiri> how can i disable stack smashing detection on my system?
[05:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:38] <soldats> aloha-frank, is it just a sec update or you wnat to upgrade the OS
[05:39] <slavi1> when accessing my local phpmyadmin installation, apache isntead spits out the php code (other php code besides phpmyadmin work)
[05:39] <aloha-frank> soldats: well upgrade the OS would be good i suppose
[05:39] <abhi_> nickrud: ok i'll have to restart my machine for that
[05:39] <bulmer> dahitokiri-> am guessing, is that part of the selinux features?
[05:39] <secret901> bulmer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46658/
[05:39] <soldats> aloha-frank, ok well i realize what you want but i just wonder why the gui didnt give you the option try "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal
[05:40] <kousotu> nickrud: sd1 is hd0,0?
[05:40] <nickrud> kousotu: sda1 , yes
[05:40] <kousotu> wow...
[05:41] <kousotu> why it that booting Vista then?
[05:41] <dahitokiri> bulmer, hm, seems like it. any idea how i'd disable it from linking with code that i write?
[05:41] <nickrud> kousotu: first ide device, first partition (counting from 0)
[05:41] <soldats> aloha-frank, i think 7.10 is fiesty fawn
[05:41] <pipegeek> So, recently (I wish I knew how recently---I'm assuming it was some update pushed out in the last week), compiz.real has gotten in the habit of slowly eating up all available memory while gnome-screensaver is running, predictably rendering the system unusable after a couple hours.  This happens every time, without fail.  Am I alone in this?
[05:41] <kousotu> Vista is on SD3
[05:41] <hiredgoon> 7.10 is gutsy
[05:41] <aubre> 7.10 is gutsy gibbon
[05:42] <hiredgoon> 7.04 is feisty
[05:42] <aloha-frank> soldats: i ran the cli and it seemed to not offer and upgrade but the gui does
[05:42] <secret901> bulmer: is everything in init.d run on startup?
[05:42] <soldats> pipegeek, in my experience all screensavers do that but im not sure
[05:42] <nickrud> kousotu: i'm gonna go way out on a limb here, but check your boot.ini on xp?
[05:42] <aubre> altcd might let you upgrade
[05:42] <pipegeek> soldats: as in, all screensavers do this to compiz?
[05:42] <bulmer> dahitokiri-> i really dont know which library would that be, you have to google for those in-depth
[05:42] <soldats> aloha-frank, ok well id suggest upgrading from the gui then
[05:42] <kousotu> I cn do that :)
[05:42] <soldats> aloha-frank, it should do the sec updates as well
[05:42] <pipegeek> soldats: because that wasn't my experience until a week ago.... and, if that's true, why is compiz enabled by default in a standard gutsy install?
[05:42] <HateX> does anyone have a problem with firefox opening up the java.com homepage?
[05:42] <HateX> mine completly locks up
[05:43] <bulmer> secret901-> no, the ones that start in S  in  /etc/rcN.d     where N is 2-5
[05:43] <aloha-frank> this is 7.04 now
[05:43] <david__> I'm able to go to java.com just fine
[05:43] <kousotu> nickrud:
[05:43] <secret901> bulmer: they start when GNOME starts? which number should I be looking for?
[05:43] <kousotu> [operating systems]
[05:43] <kousotu> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
[05:43] <nickrud> bulmer, secret901 as well as the ones in rc2.d
[05:44] <bulmer> secret901-> but note that they link back to /etc/init.d
[05:44] <soldats> pipegeek, compiz want my gusty default but i heard alot about the gusty version screensaver being unresponsive
[05:44] <aloha-frank> i can't apt-get update    with cli either
[05:44] <kousotu> it's not aXP boot.ini ssue
[05:44] <aloha-frank> same thing Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:44] <aloha-frank> do i need to edit some package list
[05:44] <nickrud> kousotu: no clue then. I'm not an xp guy, and have only had one ms os at a time. I like them to be lonely
[05:44] <pipegeek> soldats: come again?
[05:44] <kousotu> lol
[05:44] <soldats> aloha-frank, you shouldnt have to
[05:45] <nickrud> bulmer, secret901 erm, i meant rcS.d
[05:45] <kousotu> nickrud: I do tech work for friends, I needto use both
[05:45] <kousotu> lol
[05:45] <aloha-frank> soldats: how else to fix this complaint   for  update
[05:45] <bulmer> nickrud-> good point
[05:45] <soldats> pipegeek, i only meant that i heard that the screensaver for gusty on compiz was faulty
[05:45] <secret901> Nickrud, bulmer: What are disabled when I run gnome on failsafe?  I don't have that error when I go to failsafe
[05:45] <soldats> aloha-frank, ill try to find out hold on
[05:46] <nickrud> secret901: I don't know, sorry. I've never really looked at the session startup stuff
[05:46] <pipegeek> soldats: ah
[05:46] <bulmer> secret901-> umm i really dont know, I'd trace what that grub entry is and look at the script?
[05:46] <soldats> aloha-frank, does this work "sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:46] <kousotu> Vista's boot.ini is blank
[05:47] <secret901> bulmer: which script?
[05:47] <bulmer> secret901-> the failsafe?
[05:47] <aloha-frank> soldats: no the command line gives the same complain
[05:47] <vn> what are the places where I need to look why my keyboard layout is incorrect?
[05:47] <vn> and what kind of keyboard should I specify for an IBM thinkpas r40?
[05:47] <soldats> pipegeek, sorry i never use screensavers it uses a lot of memory but ill try to lookup your problem
[05:47] <aloha-frank> soldats: apt-get update is complaining about the package
[05:47] <shayan> hello, does anyone know a movie to be shown in public about linux
[05:48] <pipegeek> soldats: '
[05:48] <aloha-frank> both with gui or command line ; same
[05:48] <pipegeek> soldats: 'ppreciate it
[05:48] <soldats> aloha-frank, hmm did you try just doing "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:48] <kousotu> nickrud: think adding a SD3 load might wor?
[05:48] <aloha-frank> soldats: before update?
[05:48] <CyberMad> i got problem with installing Skype on 7.10 (Gutsy), i tried apt-get install skype  but the package not available?
[05:48] <nickrud> kousotu: is is possible, the worst that will happen is grub will say it can't find it when you try to boot it
[05:48] <owen1> how to share a folder in ubuntu with the XP partition?
[05:48] <kousotu> true
[05:49] <CyberMad> should i install skype from *.deb ?
[05:49] <kousotu> but I'd have to do alot of work if it didn't
[05:49] <aloha-frank> soldats: that gives this : 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:49] <kousotu> ;p;
[05:49] <shayan> hello, does anyone know a movie to be shown in public about linux?
[05:49] <CyberMad> the Skype.com website only release Skype for 7.04, is that ok use it for 7.10 ?
[05:49] <nickrud> kousotu: eh, get a linux job :)
[05:49] <kousotu> lol
[05:49] <secret901> bulmer: where's the failsafe script?
[05:49] <soldats> aloha-frank, d*mn i wonder why you may need to edit the repository file
[05:49] <kousotu> nickrud: I'm unimployed
[05:49] <kousotu> unemployed*
[05:50] <aloha-frank> soldats: or why it seems to think it doesn't need a dist-upgrade
[05:50] <aloha-frank> soldats: when 7.10 is available; i believe it did some partial upgrade
[05:50] <kousotu> CyberMad: most likely
[05:50] <aloha-frank> then my network was going down
[05:51] <soldats> pipegeek, http://secunia.com/advisories/27381 this is a security update for screensaver i wonder if it may help you
[05:51] <aloha-frank> my internet connectivity would stay up for like 5 minutes then die, till i now have it manually configured ?
[05:51] <soldats> aloha-frank, what was the output of the partial upgrade
[05:51] <soldats> aloha-frank, was there errors
[05:51] <aloha-frank> soldats: it was done by gui
[05:51] <nickrud> !skype | CyberMad
[05:51] <aloha-frank> i have no record of it now
[05:51] <ubotu> CyberMad: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:51] <owen1> how to share a folder with my XP partition
[05:51] <owen1> ?
[05:51] <soldats> aloha-frank, did you check in the terminal
[05:52] <arooni> hey folks!  none of my function keys are working (i can hit f1 and help launches... but when i try to map the deskbar to f3 for example... i cant :(
[05:52] <soldats> aloha-frank, when you run sys monitor does it say 7.10 or 7.04
[05:52] <Shadow147> kousotu well hd0.0 is your primary master drive
[05:52] <kousotu> right
[05:52] <nickrud> owen1: simply mount your xp partition, and you have access to the whole thing. Places->computer, click the drive
[05:52] <kousotu> what's SD3? 0,2?
[05:53] <nickrud> kousotu: sda3, yes
[05:53] <aloha-frank> soldats: 7.04
[05:53] <kousotu> someone said they had XP in here
[05:53] <soldats> hmm you may need to update the repository file
[05:53] <Shadow147> kousotu well your 3rd hard drive
[05:53] <pipegeek> soldats: yeah.... saw it, but it came out in october, and I update at least once a week... unlikely to be relevant
[05:53] <aloha-frank> soldats: i believe i must update successfully before upgrading
[05:53] <pipegeek> soldats: thanks anyway.
[05:53] <kousotu> I have 1 hd, 4 partions
[05:53] <kousotu> lol
[05:54] <aloha-frank> soldats: how
[05:54] <owen1> nickrud: i see many drives. what should I do here?
[05:54] <vn> where does setxkbmap store its data?
[05:54] <kousotu> Shadow147: you have XP on that machine?
[05:54] <Shadow147> kousotu well hd0.3 is your 3 partition
[05:54] <owen1> nickrud: i want to share a folder that i use in ubuntu with the XP.
[05:54] <Shadow147> kousotu Yes
[05:54] <ninjagambit> i have 6 part. i think
[05:55] <Shadow147> kousotu but I dont have Vista
[05:55] <nickrud> owen1: ah, the opposite direction. Do you use xp?
[05:55] <kousotu> check the XP root files for bootmgr
[05:55] <yikes> hey guys I got a rather nasty problem that I believe is hardware related
[05:55] <soldats> aloha-frank, id ask someone here what file to edit for the repositories and ask what you should input to the file
[05:55] <nickrud> owen1: and just click the drives, one of them will be the right partition
[05:55] <kousotu> yikes: explain pease
[05:55] <owen1> nickrud: i use ubuntu. i also have xp (side by side). i want my XP to see a folder.
[05:55] <Shadow147> my hd0.0 is my primary hard drive but Ubuntu is on my hd1.0
[05:55] <soldats> aloha-frank, ive never had to do it so im not sure
[05:55] <yikes> I just installed 7.10 on a IBM T61 with the Nvidia 140 video
[05:56] <kousotu> shodow, open it on linux
[05:56] <kousotu> lol
[05:56] <soldats> !repo
[05:56] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:56] <owen1> nickrud: i use ubuntu. i also have xp (side by side). i want my XP to see a folder.
[05:56] <kousotu> Shadow147: *
[05:56] <nickrud> owen1: fs-driver.org has a driver you can install on xp that will read the linux partition. Just like it was a windows drive
[05:56] <Shadow147> kousotu my hd0.0 is my primary hard drive but Ubuntu is on my hd1.0
[05:56] <soldats> !repo | aloha-frank
[05:56] <ubotu> aloha-frank: please see above
[05:56] <kousotu> got that
[05:56] <yikes> when I boot, the regular loading screen runs and then when i would normally be greeted by a login manager or desktop, the screen goes black and the system appears to lock up
[05:56] <Shadow147> kousotu ok
[05:56] <kousotu> you can mount XP's partion on ubunt
[05:57] <Shadow147> kousotu so GRUB is you Primary Bootloader
[05:57] <owen1> nickrud: ok, and if i right click on a folder in ubuntu and click on share, it will not help as well?
[05:57] <kousotu> right
[05:57] <yikes> I can't ctrl-alt f1, although I can Ctrl-Alt-Del which will cause a reboot after some time
[05:57] <arooni> hey folks!  none of my function keys are working (i can hit f1 and help launches... but when i try to map the deskbar to f3 for example... i cant :(
[05:57] <yikes> any ideas?
[05:57] <owen1> nickrud: i did it and it asked me to install something, and i did.
[05:57] <jes3> anyone use gobuntu yet?
[05:57] <nickrud> owen1: no, that's for network sharing, between two computers, not between two os's on the same muchine
[05:57] <kousotu> so hd0,0 is the primary boot partion?
[05:57] <Shadow147> kousotu so GRUB should have seen Vista and XP
[05:57] <kousotu> it doesn't
[05:58] <antler> fs-driver ain't that great for ext3 unless u properly unmount every time
[05:58] <kousotu> that's the problem
[05:58] <kousotu> and Vista refuses to see XP
[05:58] <kousotu> so I'm in a catch 22
[05:58] <jes3> Two versions of MS don't interroperate!?
[05:58] <owen1> nickrud: got it.
[05:58] <kousotu> jes3: something made Vista not see XP
[05:58] <kousotu> I'm not sure what
[05:59] <vn> anyone happens to know where setxkbmap store its data?
[05:59] <nickrud> antler: I've only tried it a couple of times but have been told it works ok, I generally use explore2fs
[05:59] <Shadow147> kousotu  thats weird unless vista has a problem with linux
[05:59] <kousotu> Shadow147: Vista will load on grub
[05:59] <Shadow147> kousotu I don't have vista just XP/Ubuntu
[05:59] <kousotu> in fact Grub loads the Vista loader
[06:00] <kousotu> I'm sharing what I know
[06:00] <Shadow147> right
[06:00] <kousotu> I need it to load XP's
[06:01] <kousotu> if I changed 0,0 to 0,1 it should load XP's partion directly?
[06:01] <tarelerulz> Nickrud , If you around what is the link to a bcm43-cutter you gave me for my card ? It would seem i did not save it to a file like I hopped so when I went back into vista I could look up the link
[06:01] <Shadow147> kousotu this will help
[06:01] <nickrud> kousotu: it would look for the boot loader on sda2 tat way
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Anyone know of any programs for opening 700 meg tif files?
[06:02] <kousotu> hm.....
[06:02] <nickrud> tarelerulz: http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43?action=show&redirect=en%2Fusers%2FDrivers%2Fbcm43xx#devicefirmware
[06:02] <kousotu> wait.. sd2 is a 1gb copy partion
[06:02] <vn> is I wanna set a default setxkbmap, where should I set it?
[06:02] <Shadow147> kousotu this will allow you to add XP to Grub
[06:02] <kousotu> Shadow147: it failed
[06:03] <nickrud> Jordan_U: wow, won't gimp?
[06:03] <kousotu> I have an XP boot.ini anyway
[06:03] <Jordan_U> nickrud, I don't think I have enough RAM to open a 700 meg tif in the gimp :)
[06:04] <kousotu> lol
[06:04] <nickrud> Jordan_U: heh. have you tried qiv? It used to be my primary viewer, it's very tiny
[06:04] <tarelerulz> NickRud thanks alot . I hope this helps .  I have been working on getting this card working right for a week and maybe more
[06:04] <Shadow147> kousotu try this
[06:04] <soldats> Jordan_U, does GQview?
[06:04] <kousotu> still failed
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> you could use the various imagemagik tools to convert it to somthing a little more useable.
[06:04] <Shadow147> let me heck my settings
[06:04] <kousotu> lol
[06:04] <kousotu> k
[06:04] <kousotu> heck away :P
[06:05] <Jordan_U> nickrud, soldats, I havn't finished downloading yet, I'll try both ( not expecting much though :)
[06:05]  * nickrud tries to think of what could be a cdimage sized image
[06:05] <soldats> Jordan_U, it works well for me but im not sure about "tiff"
[06:05] <soldats> "tif"
[06:05] <Jordan_U> nickrud, http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0710a.html
[06:06] <Jordan_U> soldats, Yea, meant tiff
[06:06] <robert__> hey there how do i add the snowy effect to my compiz fusion it doesn't have it....
[06:06] <kousotu> still failed
[06:06] <secret901> how do I search in a directory for a certain keyword in all files?
[06:06] <ubuntu> chung
[06:06] <tarelerulz> Well, I got some files from that site before and I read b43  supports my card .  The one thing I have yet to finds is how to install/compile b43-fwcutter .  It tells you how to use it ,but not how to install it and the files themself don't tell you any thing
[06:06] <soldats> Jordan_U, ok well i hope it works for you
[06:06] <kousotu> it aparently doesn't like you
[06:06] <kousotu> lol
[06:06] <Shadow147> SHIT
[06:06] <ankur> what is the name of best flash player in ubuntu?
[06:06] <Shadow147> must be
[06:06] <ubuntu> hello
[06:06] <kousotu> !hi | ubuntu
[06:06] <ubotu> ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:06] <Jordan_U> ankur, flash :)
[06:06] <soldats> ankur, i think totem plays flash
[06:06] <secret901> Is there a way to search all text files in a certain directory for a certain keyword?
[06:06] <Shadow147> kousotu do you IM programs
[06:06] <nickrud> massive file, what understatement
[06:06] <evfan42> alright I have a question about my nvidia drivers
[06:07] <kousotu> Shadow147: take your pick
[06:07] <kousotu> :)
[06:07] <robert__> does anybody have the snowy effect working on their compiz fusion???
[06:07] <Jordan_U> ankur, Unless you mean .flv player, in which case almost any media app will work
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Section31 'grep' can do that.
[06:07] <secret901> the deskbar applet is a POS
[06:07] <Shadow147> kousotu send me you account name for msn
[06:07] <aloha-frank> soldats: i seem to have figured it out somehow
[06:07] <kousotu> robert__: define "snoey effect"?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> oops that was for secret901
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:07] <ubuntu> how are you?
[06:07] <nickrud> tarelerulz: I took a look at the download, you would just download it, unpack it and cd into it, and run   make
[06:07] <Jordan_U> robert_, Are you just getting squares?
[06:07] <aloha-frank> strangley the gui for software sources is listing version 6.10
[06:07] <soldats> aloha-frank, awesome how? id like to know for future referencd
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> secret901  the grep command is darn handy for searching text files.
[06:08] <aloha-frank> so i chose those and magically it stopped complaining bbiab
[06:08] <evfan42> I have geforce ti 4200 and I installed 96.43 version and now ubuntu is screwed up
[06:08] <soldats> aloha-frank, ahh hmm im glad you got it settled then
[06:08] <robert__> Jordan i don't even have it on my window for compiz effect available
[06:08] <nickrud> secret901: grep  (and think about installing beagle, I find it Worked For Me™
[06:09] <jsoft> How do I get ssh listening on ubuntu?
[06:09] <robert__> do i just download it or what i am not sure what to do
[06:09] <tarelerulz> Nickrud I did just that  I cd into the uncompress directory and ran makefiles and nothing happened . that is why I was so lost
[06:09] <secret901> nickrud: doesn't beagle come with Gibbon?
[06:09] <nickrud> tarelerulz: no,   make
[06:09] <Jordan_U> robert_, Do you have compiz-fusion-plugins-extra installed?
[06:09] <spydon> sshd, jsoft
[06:09] <crdlb> Jordan_U: snow is in plugins-unsupported
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> jsoftw install the ssh server.  sshd
[06:09] <Jordan_U> secret901, no, tracker
[06:09] <crdlb> which isn't in gutsy
[06:09] <nickrud> secret901: I thought it was using tracker
[06:10] <robert__> i am not sure i downloaded it from the synaptic....i got everything that said compiz
[06:10] <Jordan_U> robert_, Ahh, see crdlb's comment, it's in plugins-unsupported
[06:10] <secret901> nickrud: whatever it was, it was useless
[06:10] <robert__> what is that? do i search for plugins unsupported?
[06:10] <evfan42> por favor?
[06:11] <robert__> i'm sorry i am a noob at this
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !es | evfan42
[06:11] <ubotu> evfan42: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[06:11] <jsoft> Dr_Willis: weird. Doesnt come with it by default eh?
[06:11] <jsoft> :)
[06:11] <kousotu> darn you Jordan_U, you beat me :P
[06:11] <secret901> nickrud: how do I use grep to search a directory recursively
[06:11] <spydon> can I set sshd to listen to more ports then port 22?
[06:11] <nickrud> secret901: grep -r (recursive)
[06:11] <Jordan_U> robert_, Apparently it's also not included in the default repositories, so your going to have to look around for a .deb or install it manually :(
[06:11] <tarelerulz> So you telling my nickrud that  if I download b43-fwcutter  and cd into the uncompressed dircotory and did make it should install the program ?  there is Makefile in the directory . so I thought I should do ./Makefiles and it would  do somehtng
[06:12] <evfan42> lol I need help with my video card install
[06:12] <nickrud> tarelerulz: no, make is a command that will read the makefile and run the commands in it (roughly)
[06:12] <robert__> well see i found this......http://gitweb.compiz-fusion.org/?p=fusion/plugins/snow;a=summary
[06:12] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, bcm43xx-fwcutter is available in the repos, no need to compile from source
[06:12] <nickrud> tarelerulz: I'm assuming you have build-essential installed
[06:13] <nickrud> tarelerulz: Jordan_U knows much more about wireless than I
[06:13] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, And I think that b43cutter == bcm43xx-fwcutter on Linux since b43 is called bcm43xx on Linux ( IIRC, I likely don't though :)
[06:13] <robert__> jordan do you know a wiki that can help show me how to rep the stuff?
[06:13] <secret901> nickrud: how do I start beagle after it's installed?
[06:14] <tarelerulz> that is other problem I ran into is  build-essential could not upgrade libc6  and g++  build-essential
[06:14] <jsoft> So ok, how does the sshd server start up then? is it automagically started once I install it?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> jsoft it should start once installed.
[06:14] <jsoft> Cool, thanks.
[06:14] <jsoft> It appearst o be.
[06:14] <FireHazard17> how do I change my private ip address?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, "The b43 drivers (bcm43xx in mainline kernels, b43 and b43legacy in wireless-2.6 and 2.6.24 and later)" from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[06:15] <evfan42> anybody else have this same prople>
[06:15] <evfan42> m?
[06:15] <novaheat> jsoft: Yeah, if it's in /etc/init.d, it should just start up no problems.
[06:15] <FireHazard17> to a static one from my current dynamic one that is using the dhcp from my router?
[06:15] <jsoft> Ok, now does anyone here do any pic microcontroller programming?
[06:15] <tarelerulz> I cd into the  b43 directory and do make and then do make install to do the rest ? right thanks alot guys
[06:15] <nickrud> secret901: system->preferences->session , look for it in the Startup Programs tab
[06:15] <soldats> FireHazard17, your isp should be able to change your "personal" one
[06:15] <FireHazard17> soldats: that is my public one
[06:16] <soldats> FireHazard17, do you mean from your router
[06:16] <secret901> nickrud: thanks
[06:16] <Piratero> hello
[06:16] <Piratero> does anyone have a script that automatically produces a .toc for cdrdao?
[06:16] <Piratero> i'm in need of one
[06:16] <Piratero> i already have cue2toc...
[06:16] <FireHazard17> soldats: yes I suppose
[06:16] <novaheat> FireHazard17: Your ISP might not let you have a static ip.
[06:16] <tarelerulz> Jordan_U does that  mean I have kernel 2.6 at lest or do I have to have 2.6.24 and if so How would I get 2.6.24 kernel ?
[06:16] <secret901> nickrud: I found the culprit to my gnome problem in a file in /etc/X11/Xsessions.d, can I just delete it outright?
[06:17] <FireHazard17> novaheat: NOT A PUBLIC ONE
[06:17] <soldats> FireHazard17, is it a "192.168" type you want to change
[06:17] <FireHazard17> novaheat: my private one
[06:17] <FireHazard17> soldats: yes
[06:17] <novaheat> So you want your router to give you a different IP?
[06:17] <FireHazard17> novaheat: yes
[06:17] <soldats> FireHazard17, is it necessary
[06:17] <freyes> anyone here have a 1080p monitor hooked up to ubuntu?
[06:17] <nickrud> secret901: which one?
[06:17] <FireHazard17> soldats: no it is not I can easily do it on windows
[06:17] <power788> why doesn't vncserver show the actual desktop when i view it?
[06:17] <whabo> Helllo there i have a quick question ( that might be stuoid) if i have two wireless connection, two diffrent connections .. and they are both strong, (mine and my neighbor's) IS it possible to bridge or combine BOTH of them to come up with a faster connection? i mean i know u can bridge on windows. HELP please???? any suggestions?????
[06:17] <freyes> erm
[06:18] <novaheat> Plug your computer into a different port?
[06:18] <freyes> perhaps i should ask, why do i get no signal when i start my dell when it's hooked up via dvi to an lcd
[06:18] <secret901> it's called 60xvnkb_startup, seems to be added by that program
[06:18] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, What broadcom chipset do you have? You can likely get at least basic support by simply going to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager in Gutsy, it looks like b43 is newer but not required for any chipset ( I'm still looking around the site though ), Gutsy comes with bcm43xx
[06:18] <FireHazard17> novaheat: no I want a static one not a different dynamic one
[06:18] <secret901> nickrud: it's called 60xvnkb_startup, seems to be added by that program
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> power788 vncserver spawns its own X and desktop. thats how its designed to work. it does NOT show the  Desktop you connected to via kdm/gdm.
[06:19] <soldats> FireHazard17, google free static ip
[06:19] <vn> what's the best way to remote control a linux computer in X?
[06:19] <FireHazard17> soldats: not that
[06:19] <soldats> ohh sorry
[06:19] <novaheat> FireHazard17: On my router, at least, the IPs are assigned by port, so if I'm plugged into ethernet port #1, I'm always 192.168.0.1 (for instance).
[06:19] <whabo> Helllo there i have a quick question ( that might be stuoid) if i have two wireless connection, two diffrent connections .. and they are both strong, (mine and my neighbor's) IS it possible to bridge or combine BOTH of them to come up with a faster connection? i mean i know u can bridge on windows. HELP please???? any suggestions?????
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> power788 kde and gnome both have a 'share the desktop' feature that works that way.
[06:19] <FireHazard17> novaheat: Interesting
[06:19] <secret901> nickrud: or is there a way to rename it so that it doesn't run on startup?
[06:19] <nickrud> secret901: try apt-get -r --purge xvnkb (or the actual package name). Manually changing files in /etc is something you need to be exactly sure about what you are doing
[06:19] <power788> Dr_Willis: can I access this via IP address?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> vn depends on what you want to controll it with.
[06:19] <FireHazard17> I did it easily on gentoo, I just can't remember now
[06:20] <evfan42> can someone that can help me plz pm me?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> power788 yes you should be able to. I never use the feature under gnome, and only a few times under kde.  I perfer to use 'vncserver' and set up a very light desktop for my remote ussage.
[06:20] <nickrud> secret901: you could try moving it out of that dir ( files in *.d dirs in /etc are all read, you can't stop it)
[06:20] <novaheat> FireHazard17: Yeah. Each port has an IP it always assigns. Not sure how the wireless works. I assume it just starts assigning IPs from 192.168.0.5 on up, depending on how many people are connected.
[06:20] <secret901> nickrud: do you mean -remove instead of -r? it doesn't understand -r
[06:20] <soldats> evfan42, what did you need again
[06:20] <novaheat> Maybe you can tell your router to always assign a certain IP to a certain MAC address?
[06:20] <FireHazard17> novaheat: that is how my wired works
[06:20] <vn> Dr_Willis: with a small executable that is ran mostly fro windows but cn be from linux too
[06:20] <power788> Dr_Willis: thank you
[06:20] <nickrud> secret901: heh. I'm into aptitude, sudo aptitude purge xvnkb
[06:21] <whabo> Helllo there i have a quick question ( that might be stuoid) if i have two wireless connection, two diffrent connections .. and they are both strong, (mine and my neighbor's) IS it possible to bridge or combine BOTH of them to come up with a faster connection? i mean i know u can bridge on windows. HELP please???? any suggestions?????
[06:21] <FireHazard17> novaheat: you can just do it in the software
[06:21] <Piratero> anyone?
[06:21] <evfan42> soldats: I installed drivers for nividia geforce ti 4200 and now ubuntu is all screwed up
[06:21] <pgan> My two disks have the same UUID, after I dd'ed all contents of one to the other.  I know disks should have different UUIDs, so how can I fix that?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> whabo, I know it is possible, I don't think it's easy though
[06:21] <soldats> evfan42, how screwed up
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> vn vnc and the vncserver/client are a fairly easy way to get some remote desktops going
[06:22] <whabo> Jordan_U is it by using a program??? or just my configuration
[06:22] <evfan42> like the screen resolution is bad, and I cant change any settings in nvidia x server settings
[06:22] <vn> Dr_Willis: ok and what would be a second option?
[06:22] <secret901> nickrud: thanks, I'll try logging back in and see if that solves my problem
[06:22] <Jordan_U> whabo, Just configuration
[06:22] <evfan42> and when I was starting up it flash a few times at the screen before the login page
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> vn depdns on the OS you want on the remote machine.   if its linux. freenx can work..
[06:22] <Jordan_U> whabo, Though there may be a program available that will configure it for you, I don't know
[06:22] <secret901> nickrud: looks good, that file seems to have been deleted
[06:22] <NetLarIrvine> Anyone ever try to install linux on a Vudu Box?
[06:23] <whabo> Jordan_U thx ill research on how to do it with linux thx
[06:23] <NetLarIrvine> I know it has a 250 GB drive
[06:23] <soldats> evfan42, have you tried "sudo dpkg xserver-xorg"
[06:23] <nickrud> secret901: apt-get remove (I reread the man page;P) will leave files in /etc (in case you had altered them) and --purge will remove them, fyi
[06:23] <evfan42> soldats: not yet
[06:24] <vn> Dr_Willis: and if its windows?
[06:24] <tarelerulz> I have  a Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) is the card I have sorry for not telling you all that .  I was bussy trying to get this all worked out
[06:24] <secret901> nickrud: Yay, it worked.  Thanks for your help.
[06:24] <evfan42> this is what I got
[06:24] <soldats> evfan42, if you do it be careful and read carefully on what your doing it works well with resolution
[06:24] <evfan42> dpkg: need an action option
[06:24] <evfan42> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*];
[06:24] <evfan42> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[06:24] <evfan42> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[06:24] <evfan42> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[06:24] <evfan42> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[06:24] <evfan42> Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*].
[06:24] <evfan42> Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !
[06:24] <vn> !pastebin
[06:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <pgan> My two hard disks have the same UUID, after I dd'ed one to the other.  I know disks should have different UUIDs, so how can I fix that?
[06:25] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, Then using restricted manager should get it to work, though that exact chipset is not fully supported ( stability issues IIRC )
[06:25] <evfan42> lol, sorry
[06:25] <sainzeo> would anyone know how to determine an external harddrives UUID?
[06:25] <freyes> anyone know of a way to change the resolution of the bios when a pc is starting up?
[06:25] <soldats> evfan42, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     sorry i typoed it
[06:26] <soldats> big time
[06:26] <kravlin> I keep getting Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.2.4-2ubuntu3.1_i386.deb' when i try to update from 6.06 to 6.10. can anyone help?
[06:26] <FluxD> kravlin: download it manuaally and try it
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !uuid | sainzeo
[06:27] <ubotu> sainzeo: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:27] <kravlin> FluxD: you mean the update?
[06:27] <novaheat> I've got a question about joysticks. When I run jscalibrator, it recognizes everything just fine. But when I load up any game that can use a joystick, the D-Pad is non-functional. Other buttons work fine.
[06:27] <novaheat> Any suggestions?
[06:27] <tarelerulz> I am not in the know on such  ,but what do I need from the  wirelless card. all I need is web pags and downloading stuff.  The part I am lost about  Do I just install it  then it loads up and I find my router and it does the rest
[06:27] <FluxD> kravlin: yup
[06:27] <sainzeo> Dr_Willis: thanks!
[06:28] <kravlin> FluxD: I have issues with the mouse for live cds. and i'm generally too lazy to try and download another cd and burn it.
[06:28] <FluxD> kravlin: a sec
[06:28] <FluxD> kramer: u have internet access?
[06:28] <nickrud> pgan: you would use tune2fs -U <uuid> to set the uuid on the partition, you can use http://www.famkruithof.net/uuid/uuidgen to create one
[06:29] <Shadow147> well I am trying to install ps2toolchain for linux
[06:29] <unagi_> i was hoping gutsy would fix my hibernation problems.......it did not.......anyone here have problems with suspend or hibernate?
[06:29] <soldats> unagi_, ive never been able to do either one of those
[06:29] <Shadow147> but I am getting this ./config/tc-i386.h:516: error: array type has incomplete element type
[06:29] <Adam300>  I want to run a X program from a terminal as a diffrent user then who is logged into x, I can change users in the terminal but every x program I run says it can't find display
[06:29] <soldats> i wish i knew how to fix it
[06:30] <tarelerulz> Well, to all that helped me when I do get the wireless card workign I will be back in here for sure.  The one thing I love about linux is working on it and getting new stuff to work.  The wireless is a big problem see with net you can do research at all
[06:30] <nickrud> unagi: me too
[06:30] <unagi_> me neither its kinda annoying =(
[06:30] <nickrud> unagi: what's frustrating is it did work for a long time, but not any more
[06:30] <pgan> nickrud: thanks.  Why did they become the same?
[06:30] <unagi_> it never worked for me =/
[06:30] <soldats> unagi_, i got over it i just leave my box on all the time
[06:30] <evfan42> soldat: I dont think that worked
[06:31] <soldats> evfan42, damn im not exactly sure what is going on unless i see the box myself, im not sure what to try next sorry
[06:32] <vn> I updated resolv.conf and why would my system not resolve the domain names yet?  do I neet to restart something?
[06:32] <vn> need*
[06:32] <nickrud> pgan: because it's stored in the file system :)
[06:32] <travnewmatic> would anybody be so kind as to help me with apache?
[06:32] <novaheat> No ideas about what might be up with the joypad?
[06:32] <nickrud> pgan: when you dd'd, it copied it bit for bit, including it's uuid that was stored in the first superblok
[06:32] <jordan> Can someone tell me how I can open AWN?
[06:32] <unagi_> itd also be cool if i could sort icons by type
[06:33] <unagi_> jordan avant-window-navigator
[06:33] <jordan> thanks
[06:33] <unagi_> np
[06:33] <novaheat> Hm.
[06:33] <soldats> unagi_, sort icons? where and how
[06:33] <novaheat> I wonder if it's expecting my controller to have an analog stick or something.
[06:33] <tarelerulz> Do bcm43-cutter cover my card at all? from what I could gather b43 is the one for my card. \
[06:33] <unagi_> on desktop
[06:34] <unagi_> right click arrange by type
[06:34] <unagi_> thatd be nice
[06:34] <soldats> unagi_, ahh you can move them manually
[06:34] <unagi_> lol im lazy
[06:34] <soldats> unagi_, it should save the stup of them on restart
[06:34] <jordan> how do i get to the avant-window-navigator?
[06:34] <evfan42> soldats: alright, well it may be this monitor because it isn't the one I use normally, but what I did was reinstalled ubuntu because the windows were screwed up when I tried to do the terminal desktop and now im at my friends house and using a smaller monitor,
[06:34] <soldats> unagi_, hahah
[06:34] <unagi_> its not really lazy but its part of my qorkflow
[06:34] <thyrax> does anyone use linux software raid?
[06:34] <travnewmatic> any apache help please
[06:35] <soldats> evfan42, ok well i really hope you figure it out
[06:35] <unagi_> jordan what happens when you type avant-window-navigator in the terminal?
[06:35] <jordan> nothing
[06:35] <jordan> it's not a command
[06:35] <unagi_> then its not installed
[06:35] <Shadow147> well I am trying to install ps2toolchain for linux
[06:35] <jordan> weird. i followed the directions
[06:35] <soldats> unagi_, usually running avant from a terminal involes typing "avant"
[06:35] <unagi_> did it successfully compile?
[06:35] <Shadow147> but I am getting this ./config/tc-i386.h:516: error: array type has incomplete element type ant ideas?
[06:35] <unagi_> avant-window-navigator is the string i have to use
[06:36] <Shadow147> any*
[06:36] <soldats> hmm
[06:36] <jordan> i'm not sure
[06:36] <jordan> i'm new to ubuntu
[06:36] <unagi_> i dont have just avant
[06:36] <unagi_> i kinda guessed jordan =)
[06:36] <unagi_> do the instructions again and look for any kind of error
[06:36] <thyrax> no one using mdadm for software raid 5?
[06:36] <jordan> ok unagi
[06:37] <thyrax> is there a gui for mdadm?
[06:38] <tarelerulz> Does blacklisting a module mean you can't load the molule later or does it mean the module will not been load at start up ?
[06:38] <pgan> nikrud: great, thanks!  Then I have a related question - since I dd'd my whole Ubuntu installation, to the replacement disk, why won't it boot?
[06:38] <FluxD> tarelerulz: u can load it later blacklist means it wont load on boot
[06:39] <kravlin> FluxD: apperently my software index for Apt-get is broken...
[06:39] <vn> I updated resolv.conf and why would my system not resolve the domain names yet?  do I neet to restart something?  may it be IPv6 being enabled causing this?
[06:39] <sebi_> hi, I get : dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_servers
[06:39] <FluxD> kravlin: get the update from here http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cupsys/
[06:40] <sebi_> that looks like a bug to me do I file it against dhcdbd ?
[06:41] <jordan> in the code boxes on forums do I type only one line at a time or do the whole thing at once?
[06:41] <sebi_> jordan, one line at a time
[06:41] <kravlin> FluxD: i've got broken dependencies. until i fix those i'm not going anywhere
[06:41] <jordan> haha oh
[06:41] <pgan> nickrud: sorry, misspelled your nick before.  Since I dd'd my whole Ubuntu installation, to the replacement disk, why won't it boot?
[06:41] <jordan> i think i know what i did wrong then
[06:41] <thyrax> no one in here using mdadm or software raid on linux?
[06:41] <FluxD> kravlin: okay :)
[06:42] <kravlin> FluxD: yeah. It kinda decided that while it was gonna stop the upgrade it was gonna take my computer with it.
[06:43] <FluxD> kravlin: that is one reason I never upgrade clean install ftw
[06:43] <kravlin> FluxD: i would if i could.
[06:43] <pgan> nickrud: I get grub error 22 (no such partition)
[06:44] <Zylstra555> About how many users can a server with a 366MMHz Processor and about 80MB free space handle? (Ubuntu server)
[06:44] <FluxD> kravlin: whay cant u? no cd drive?
[06:44] <kravlin> FluxD: it rejects anything above 6.06 for install. it freezes up.
[06:44] <Zylstra555> (doing your basic PHP forum and HTTP pages)
[06:45] <FluxD> kravlin: network install?
[06:45] <kravlin> FluxD: and yeah. it doesn't have a cd drive either.
[06:45] <FluxD> kravlin: u try with alternate cd?
[06:45] <kravlin> FluxD: when i tried to download it it gave me the same exact cd. I don't have any more CD-R's
[06:46] <FluxD> kravlin: I think alternate cd is text based installer
[06:46] <tarelerulz> this may sound dumb ,but how to you add ndiwrapper module to the blacklist ?
[06:46] <imyousuf> Hi! I am a novice Linux user. I have GPRS/EDGE modem that I can connect to my Ubuntu using USB. Next when I do lsusb I get the  vendor=0x067b and product=0x0610 on Bus 001 Device 003. If I do usbmodules then it does not show any capable module for the device.
[06:46] <kravlin> crap. Cupsys-driver-gutenprint is also corrupt.
[06:46] <imyousuf> can someone please suggest me how I can instruct the Kernel to use the device as Serial modem
[06:46] <imyousuf> ?
[06:47] <imyousuf> I tried modprobe usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x0610
[06:47] <imyousuf> but that did not help as well :(
[06:47] <FluxD> tarelerulz: gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:48] <kravlin> FluxD: that's what i thought too.
[06:48] <eses> ?
[06:48] <FluxD> kravlin: take a look at the names again when u download I am pretty sure its not sam
[06:48] <eses> ?
[06:49] <kravlin> FluxD: Probably not.
[06:50] <bluefox83> how do you mount an iso so you don't have to burn it to cd?
[06:50] <Shadow147> has any gotten in ps2 development
[06:50] <Shadow147> anyone*
[06:50] <Adam300> mount -t iso9660 /file.iso /someemptydirectory -o loop
[06:50] <Adam300> or even better man mount
[06:51] <sebi_> bluefox83, mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename mountpoint
[06:51] <bluefox83> could i say...mount it to /cdrom ?
[06:51] <sebi_> oh
[06:51] <soldats> no
[06:51] <sebi_> bluefox83, why ?
[06:51] <pgan> nickrud
[06:51] <pgan> (sorry, I was trying to search my log)
[06:51] <bluefox83> uhm...i'm trying to install a game but i'd prefer to not have to burn it to cd...
[06:52] <Adam300> bluefox83: just create an empty directory somewhere and use that
[06:52] <Adam300> mkdir gameCd
[06:52] <sebi_> bluefox83, you can mount things whereever you want - using wine or sth like that ?
[06:52] <IpMoo> is there a online trojan scanner for ubuntu 7.10
[06:52] <tomd123> does anyone know how to manually turn off the monitor on a laptop?
[06:52] <Adam300> IpMoo: nmap localhost
[06:53] <IpMoo> ok il look see ..ty
[06:53] <bluefox83> sebi_, trying to install diablo2 from an iso
[06:54] <sebi_> bluefox83, I am not big on games but if it is a non linux game and you use wine there is an option with wich you can say this iso is the cd ... not 100% sure though
[06:55] <bluefox83> hrm..that sounds interesting
[06:56] <tremby> just installed kubuntu. i did apt-get install firefox flashplugin-nonfree and a bunch of other stuff and rebooted. flash plugin doesn't seem to be working, though. where there should be flash movies i instead have blank boxes. right clicking them gets me the normal firefox menu.
[06:56] <pgan> tomd123: there is usually a nipple that gets pushed when you close the lid.  If you include the acpi module when you boot linux, you can set it to blank the screen when you press the nipple manually.  Is that good enough?
[06:58] <pgan> tomd: some laptops have function button combos to do that, for example on thinkpads, Fn+F3 blanks the screen if the thinkpad module is loaded.
[06:58] <imyousuf> Hi! I am a novice Linux user. I have GPRS/EDGE modem that I can connect to my Ubuntu using USB. Next when I do lsusb I get the  vendor=0x067b and product=0x0610 on Bus 001 Device 003. If I do usbmodules then it does not show any capable module for the device. I tried "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x0610"; but that did not help as well. can someone please suggest me how I can instruct the Kernel to use the device as Serial modem?
[07:04] <ethos> i just switched to linphone.... ekiga was a waste of time g'night folks
[07:04] <IpMoo> Adam300:   ty ...
[07:05] <Adam300> np
[07:05] <pgan> I dd'd my (working) disk to a replacement disk.  But when I try to boot, I get grub error 22 (no such partition).  Why?  menu.lst lists the correct UUID and specifies "root" as "hd0,0", like the old disk.
[07:06] <marco_> http://insiemeamici.altervista.org/#Amici|DIVX00
[07:07] <marco_> http://insiemeamici.altervista.org/#
[07:08] <c9s> hi  , how do i list zombie process by ps ?
[07:08] <marco_> http://insiemeamici.altervista.org/#
[07:08] <dak> hrm
[07:09] <Adam300> c9s: define zombie
[07:10] <pgan> marco_: what's that?
[07:10] <tremby> c9s: grep for its letter. iirc it's capital Z, so something like ps aux | grep Z
[07:10] <c9s> tremby: thanks ;)
[07:11] <ankur> is there any alarm system in ubuntu ?
[07:11] <nept> oh yeah, #windows looks good too :)
[07:11] <nept> ah sry, wrong channel
[07:12] <imyousuf> Hi! I am a relatively new Linux user. I have GPRS/EDGE modem that I can connect to my Ubuntu using USB. Next when I do lsusb I get the  vendor=0x067b and product=0x0610 on Bus 001 Device 003. If I do usbmodules then it does not show any capable module for the device. I tried "modprobe usbserial vendor=0x067b product=0x0610"; but that did not help as well. can someone please suggest me how I can instruct the Kernel to use the device as Serial 
[07:12] <pgan> c9s: better to list with ps aux, then sort on the column that lists the state (for example sort -k 13)
[07:13] <scguy318> imyousuf: I would suggest looking for a guide to setting up a GPRS/EDGE modem via google or Ubuntu Wiki
[07:13] <ankur>  is there any alarm system in ubuntu ?
[07:13] <Hyphenex> Hey extreamily overcrowded channel, I know this has got little to do with ubuntu, but can you guys help me stress test a script, just go to http://hyphenex.ath.cx:8000/cgi-bin/test.py and start turning things on and off (little LED's connected to my MacBook)
[07:13] <bluefox83> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 diablo_2_install_disc.iso /images
[07:13] <bluefox83> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[07:13] <bluefox83>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[07:13] <bluefox83>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[07:13] <bluefox83>        dmesg | tail  or so
[07:13] <bluefox83> oops :X
[07:13] <Dusti[n]> anyone know anything about why i get this error when trying to install ubuntu 7.06 on my computer? int 14 cr2 ef800000
[07:13] <Kalamansi> Is it okay to run ubuntu 7.10 desktop for server with x windows?thanks
[07:13] <imyousuf> scguy318: trying that
[07:13] <bluefox83> that was supposed to be one line, sorry everyone
[07:14] <imyousuf> wanted to know whether someone already encountered it
[07:14] <pgan> ankur: what kind of alarm system?
[07:14] <bluefox83> i'll use a pastebin next time, i promise >.>
[07:14] <scguy318> Kalamansi: yeah but might as well go use desktop Ubuntu
[07:14] <Kalamansi> ok thanks
[07:14] <bluefox83> in any case...how do i fix that?
[07:14] <Guest12017> hello all
[07:14] <Dusti[n]> hi
[07:15] <scguy318> bluefox83: check your syntax?
[07:15] <pgan> ankur: do "apt-cache search alarm" and "apt-cache search remind"
[07:15] <scguy318> bluefox83: the name of the ISO might be typoed
[07:15] <Kalamansi> scguy318: do you know some applications for limiting the bandwidth of a certain user of my workstation and blocking of youtube.com and other video streaming sites?
[07:15] <c9s> pgan: thanks
[07:15] <bluefox83> i tabbed it..it's correct
[07:15] <scguy318> Kalamansi: if you do some transparent Squid proxying perhaps, I'm not too knowledgable in filtering
[07:15] <scguy318> Kalamansi: there might be filtering software for Linux, google a bit
the alarm which can help me to awake or do some work at the meaan time
[07:16] <ankur> ?
[07:16] <tremby> fixed my flash player plugin -- since i kept my home partition from my old OS (fedora 6) i had a conflicting plugin in my firefox config. just deleted that and everything's fine
[07:16] <scguy318> bluefox83: does your mount point exist?
[07:16] <bluefox83> scguy318, yup
[07:16] <scguy318> bluefox83: dunno try
[07:16] <scguy318> bluefox83: sudo mount -t iso9660 diablo_2_install_disc.iso /images -o loop
[07:16] <Kalamansi> scguy318: if i created a squid proxy, whats the squid ip?
[07:16] <scguy318> bluefox83: if not do what it asked and see dmesg
[07:17] <scguy318> Kalamansi: the IP of the server that you set it up on
[07:17] <scguy318> Kalamansi: I know nothing more than that honestly
[07:17] <scguy318> Kalamansi: in fact I'm more interested in breaking out of filtering :P
[07:17] <wjj> hi
[07:18] <ppg007> hello all
[07:18] <Kalamansi> scguy318: ok let say i have now a squid proxy running.my workstations can download also and upload important files to their clients?
[07:19] <Kalamansi> scguy318: let say workstations are allowed to upload and download..
[07:19]  * jscinoz is away: Playing WOW
[07:19] <pgan> I see.  By typing "apt-cache search alarm" on the command line, I see xmms-alarm, described as "xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock", and others.  Try also "apt-cache search remind".
[07:19] <pgan> ankur: see above
[07:20] <Xacarith> Connection failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[07:20] <Kalamansi> Kalamansi: if my server have squid proxy, workstations can still download and upload files?
[07:20] <_blitz_> my gutsy does not reload the package lists after install(fresh).network connection is ok
[07:21] <Xacarith> I get that when trying to access this computer through the network
[07:22] <gruntLOL> Hi I was wondering if anyone here used torrentflux on their ubuntu box and could tell me how I could update the bittornado program through that?
[07:22] <beasty_> gruntLOL: did you try google?
[07:23] <gruntLOL> beasty_ yes but im still learning I only got linux up and running last night :)
[07:23] <gruntLOL> so I was kind of confused
[07:23] <gruntLOL> Just one of the sites I use apparently TT doesnt talk to BT but it seems to be working
[07:23] <gruntLOL> I may not have to afterall
[07:23] <_blitz_> my gutsy does not reload the package lists after install(fresh).network connection is ok
[07:23] <beasty_> dnno i don't use torrents
[07:24] <eyemean> hello, can anyone recomend a good video editing software pls for gutsy?
[07:24] <beasty_> _blitz_: remove the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <beasty_> try that
[07:24] <beasty_> and then do sudo apt-get update
[07:24] <aslan> hello, so I did something stupid.. I edited the properties of my external drive and tried to have it mount under /media/disk-1. Now it doesn't mount, it gives an error about the mount options... any idea how to change the settings back? I right clicked the mount icon on the desktop and changed it under there....
[07:25] <_blitz_> thanx beasty .lemme try
[07:25] <cHeChA_cE_EmO> adit_20
[07:26] <JNLord> hello all
[07:26] <JNLord> i am setting up a public hotspot
[07:26] <_blitz_> beasty : its workin.thanx
[07:26] <beasty_> np
[07:26] <gruntLOL> Hi I was wondering if anyone here used torrentflux on their ubuntu box and could tell me how I could update the bittornado program through that? (Seems I do need to update it afterall)
[07:27] <soldats> gruntLOL, use ktorrent
[07:27] <soldats> instead
[07:27] <Kalamansi> hello how to install windows if i have ubuntu already?
[07:27] <aslan> Kalamansi: install windows and then just reinstall grub
[07:27] <aslan> soldats: wow you're so helpful.....
[07:27] <gruntLOL> soldats is it any better, torrentflux currently does everything I want, and the webgui is a useful feature
[07:28] <_blitz_> Kalamansi : Yeah do that
[07:28] <JNLord> i intend using just a single Laptop as the server and authentication gateway, how do make users input usernames and passwords before getting access to the internet
[07:28] <Kalamansi> aslan: how to reinstall grub?
[07:28] <eyemean> what good video editing software?
[07:28] <beasty_> JNLord: radius authentication ?
[07:29] <aslan> Kalamansi: the easiest way IMO is to boot off livecd , and then run grub-install /path/to/drive
[07:29] <soldats> aslan, well basically everything i hear about torrentflux is not worth using
[07:29] <JNLord> beasty_: whats a radius authentication?
[07:29] <beasty_> JNLord: what do you use for authentication ?
[07:29] <aslan> soldats: ya but that's your opinion, he didn't come in here asking "what torrent client should I use"
[07:29] <eyemean> i prefer using deluge torrent software
[07:29] <soldats> gruntLOL, what exactly do you need to do
[07:29] <JNLord> beasty_: nothing right now
[07:30] <beasty_> oh ok
[07:30] <beasty_> so what you want is
[07:30] <sebi_> Kalamansi, when you installed windows just boot the ubuntu install cd , go to a terminal and do : sudo grub-install (hd0) you might have to change the hd0 for whatever your disk actually is
[07:30] <beasty_> that when client a connects to your network
[07:30] <gruntLOL> soldats I wanted to update bit tornado as apparently torrent trader and my current version of bit tornado dont speak to each other
[07:30] <scguy318> JNLord: a form of network authorization I think
[07:30] <scguy318> JNLord: I'm aware of it in context of 802.1x
[07:30] <beasty_> it need to fill in a user/pass to gain access to the web ?
[07:30] <BlaenkDenum> anyone know if I'm able to install ubuntu on a separate partition, but from another partition running windows, use Linux on the other partition through something like vmware?
[07:30] <scguy318> BlaenkDenum: sure
[07:31] <BlaenkDenum> scguy318: really?
[07:31] <JNLord> beasty_: thats exactly what i want
[07:31] <scguy318> BlaenkDenum: yes
[07:31] <aslan> can anyone tell me how to reset the nautilus mount options for an external drive?
[07:31] <BlaenkDenum> scguy318: that way I wouldn't have to keep rebooting each time I want to switch OSes right
[07:31] <scguy318> BlaenkDenum: yes
[07:31] <JNLord> i have been seeing some on windows like firstspot, antamedia etc
[07:31] <beasty_> JNLord: i did a project like that earlier for a hotel
[07:31] <sebi_> BlaenkDenum, try xen if you got a recent processor it might work with a lot of work
[07:31] <beasty_> but i think it's way farfetched for you
[07:31] <BlaenkDenum> can I use vmware though?
[07:31] <sebi_> BlackDiamonds, of cause
[07:32] <sebi_> but than you make images and not partitions
[07:32] <beasty_> JNLord: what's the useramount ?
[07:32] <BlaenkDenum> no, you misunderstood me, scguy318 maybe you did too
[07:32] <JNLord> beasty_: u mean client base amount?
[07:32] <scguy318> BlaenkDenum: VMware can utilize physical partitions
[07:32] <beasty_> yes
[07:32] <beasty_> ehrm
[07:32] <beasty_> JNLord: yes
[07:32] <JNLord> like 30
[07:32] <BlaenkDenum> scguy318: you DID understand me :)
[07:32] <beasty_> ok
[07:32] <_blitz_> How to customize the appearance in Gutsy?(In feisty you had that install button for window borders,icons etc).
[07:32] <BlaenkDenum> thanks scguy318
[07:32]  * BlaenkDenum hugs scguy318 
[07:32] <scguy318> BlaenkDenum: np
[07:32] <beasty_> you could mess around with vlans or iptables
[07:33] <eyemean> has anyone got vista and installed gutsy?
[07:33] <JNLord> vlans?
[07:33] <sebi_> BlaenkDenum, scguy318 , didn't know I use virtualbox or qemu - good to know
[07:33] <beasty_> vlan ?
[07:33] <beasty_> virtual local area networks
[07:33] <JNLord> oh
[07:34] <wjj> ?
[07:34] <BlaenkDenum> sebi_: well I wasn't asking if just vmware did it but if anything was able to, now I know vmware does, that'd be cool if virtualbox did too though
[07:34] <_blitz_> How to customize the appearance in Gutsy?(In feisty you had that install button for window borders,icons etc).
[07:34] <scguy318> eyemean: I upgraded from Vista to Gutsy :P
[07:34] <scguy318> _blitz_: SYstem -> Prefs -> Appearance if I'm not mistaken
[07:34] <beasty_> JNLord: what you can do is setup a dhcp server
[07:34] <beasty_> block all ports
[07:34] <JNLord> i can use my Access Point to block pcs from getting on my network, but i need some that would also manage the bandwidth
[07:35] <_blitz_> scguy318:  yeah but how do you install new themes.sorry i didnt explain it
[07:35] <beasty_> JNLord: ok
[07:35] <soldats> gruntLOL, http://idforums.net/index.php?showtopic=19318
[07:35] <JNLord> beasty_: a dhcp server would be great, but how about bandwidth management
[07:35] <soldats> does this help
[07:35] <scguy318> _blitz_: drag theme file into it I think
[07:35] <scguy318> _blitz_: or press the Install button
[07:36] <beasty_> JNLord: http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3114511 take a close look at this
[07:36] <beasty_> for starters
[07:36] <JNLord> beasty_: thanks
[07:36] <_blitz_> scguy318 : what u are talking is about feisty.there is no install button in gutsy
[07:36] <beasty_> JNLord: and this also http://lartc.org/
[07:36] <pgan> I dd'd my Ubuntu installation from one disk to another, but I can't boot from the new disk.  I get grub error 22 (no such partition). Why?  menu.lst uses the correct UUID and the same root stanza "root hd0,0".
[07:37] <beasty_> pgan: are the disks in the same computer ?
[07:37] <smmagic> I just reinstalled windows..and the option the boot ubuntu dissapeared..how do I make it come back?
[07:38] <pgan> beasty: yes, but not at the same time of course.  I pull out one and connect the other in its place.  It's a laptop and they are laptop disks.
[07:38] <beasty_> smmagic: boot live cd; grub-install /path/to/hd ; reboot
[07:38] <_blitz_> smmagic :reinstall grub
[07:38] <smmagic> How do I do that..I'm on ubuntu live cd
[07:38] <eyemean> scguy318, oh so u didnt dual boot?
[07:38] <JNLord> beasty_: i thought that radius had to do with another device???
[07:39] <_blitz_> type grub inaterminal
[07:39] <_blitz_> in a terminal
[07:39] <Kalamansi> aslan: already installed the ubuntu..how to install windows?
[07:39] <beasty_> smmagic: do this
[07:39] <smmagic> Then..
[07:39] <beasty_> 08:30 < sebi_> Kalamansi, when you installed windows just boot the ubuntu  install cd , go to a terminal and do : sudo grub-install (hd0)  you might have to change the hd0 for whatever your disk actually  is
[07:39] <beasty_> as been told 9 minutes ago
[07:39] <_blitz_> smmagic :type find /boot/grub/stage1
[07:40] <smmagic> Error  15: File not found
[07:40] <Kalamansi> beasty_: but i full install ubuntu
[07:41] <beasty_> brb smoke time
[07:41] <_blitz_> smmagic :then type root (hdx,x) whatever output you got in the find step
[07:41] <rsfriends> good morning everybody
[07:41] <_blitz_> smmagic :i mean (hdx,x) is the output
[07:41] <pgan> In menu.lst, what does the stanza "root hd0,0" mean?
[07:42] <smmagic> But the output was a error
[07:42] <rsfriends> i  have a problem with my sound, cant hear any thing, how do i reset the settings ?
[07:43] <viking> How can I access my windows files when im on ubuntu? Ive got vista on the other drive
[07:43] <pgan> sorry, I mean "root (hd0,0)"
[07:43] <_blitz_> smmagic : if you did a find /boot/grub/stag1 and got an error i am really sorry.i dont know.but i only know that it can be fixed
[07:43] <_blitz_> viking :gutsy or feisty?
[07:44] <smmagic> It says file not found
[07:44] <pgan> viking: use ntfs-3g drivers. apt-get install ntfs-3g
[07:44] <viking> gutsy
[07:44] <viking> ive got the ntfs-3g drivers but I get an error when i try to load my vista drive
[07:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | viking
[07:45] <ubotu> viking: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[07:45] <pgan> viking: what error?
[07:45] <_blitz_> viking :the default install of gutsy allows you to have read write support for windows volumes
[07:45] <jscinoz> Hey guys, my repo is finally up, it contains closed source (but freely distributable) games such as enemy-territory, savage, urban terror, true combat elite and many others, if you're interested its available at http://www.coulters.net/jscinoz
[07:45] <sebi_> Kalamansi, yes you installed ubuntu , is your question : How do I resize a partition ? If so the answer is boot the install cd use gparted and resize the partition...
[07:46] <rsfriends> i  have a problem with my sound, cant hear any thing, how can i reset the settings ?
[07:46] <sebi_> whats the difference between the send_interface and the send_destination in dbus ?
[07:47] <smmagic> Can someone tell me how to reinstall GRUB?
[07:47] <sebi_> rsfriends, mixer ?
[07:47] <Kalamansi> sebi_: using "sudo gparted" ?
[07:47] <rsfriends> volume control
[07:47] <sebi_> Kalamansi, yes but you have to boot from the cd you can't resize a partition that is mounted
[07:48] <Kalamansi> ok thanks
[07:48] <beasty_> bbl
[07:48] <sebi_> rsfriends, either in aplications->mixer, or in a terminal alsamixer
[07:48] <romme> what else could be the cause of a partiton being unmountable if there are no open files on it?
[07:48] <rsfriends> ok
[07:49] <sebi_> romme, unmountabel or ununmountabel ?
[07:49] <romme> oops, stupid me. ununmountable
[07:50] <sebi_> romme, did you check with: lsof |grep /mountpoint
[07:50] <pgan> In menu.lst, what does the stanza "root (hd0,0)" mean?  Or where can I get info about menu.lst's format?
[07:50] <romme> sebi_: yes, nothing here
[07:50] <cruox> How can I install a new icon pack? Use the oldie method (copying the whole stuff somewhere under ~) or is there a more elegant way in Ubuntu? (I'm on Gutsy)
[07:50] <sebi_> romme, are you in the directory you want to umount ?
[07:51] <romme> sebi_: no
[07:51] <sebi_> romme, used sudo ?
[07:52] <DivideZer> someone is using stice text editor ?
[07:52] <kraut> moin
[07:52] <romme> no, logged in as root to unmount /home
[07:53] <rsfriends> i there any way i can reset the alsamix, i cant see any thing wrong, and i still thing happen, can hear anything
[07:53] <rsfriends> cant hear anything
[07:53] <sebi_> romme, how do you connect to irc ? you are still logged in as user somehow I guess ... you got to log out EVERY user
[07:54] <Kalamansi> how to creat a file server? server ubuntu desktop 7.10 ---- windows workstations..so that workstations "windows" will just put their files to the server ubuntu for backup...and also is it possible to creat an account like 16 accounts and they have different directory (for example: johndoe have directory of johndoe and before he can access that he will login first and pass...thanks
[07:54] <romme> sebi_: i started xchat as root
[07:54] <sebi_> romme, don't
[07:54] <Jordan_U> romme, You should NEVER do that
[07:55] <salty> samba server Kalamansi
[07:55] <romme> why? is freenode full of crackers willing to wreck my box?
[07:55] <darkmatter> romme: you should never run a network enabled application as root. bad idea
[07:55] <salty> or ftp server
[07:55] <Jordan_U> romme, Disconnect now and connect again from another computer if you have to but DO NOT EVER RUN XCHAT AS ROOT!
[07:55] <Kalamansi> salty: how to install "samba server" ?
[07:55] <eses> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration, any ideas please?
[07:55] <salty> do ya have synaptic?
[07:55] <pgan> In file menu.lst, what does "root (hd0,0)" mean?  Or where can I get info about menu.lst's format?
[07:56] <romme> well, freenode is the only network i'm connected to
[07:56] <Jordan_U> romme, You do not need to be root to unmount /home either
[07:56] <Kalamansi> salty: yes i have it now.im running ubuntu desktop server 7.10
[07:56] <adamadam20074> ok heres my problem, i have installed the fglrx drivers for my radeon 9800 pro card, and when i type the fglrxinfo in the terminal it says direct rendering no, mesa indirect, does anyone know how to turn mesa off and dri on?
[07:56] <sebi_> Kalamansi, it allready is installed I guess, rightclick on the folder <ou wanne share and click on share
[07:56] <rsfriends> is there any way i can reset alsamix,?
[07:56] <salty> Kalamansi: use synaptic... click on edit and choose by task
[07:57] <Kalamansi> ok
[07:57] <romme> well ok, i reconnected from another pc
[07:57] <Jordan_U> romme, You do not need to be root to unmount /home either
[07:57] <CyberMad> is there any website that inform me / review best software for ubuntu?
[07:57] <brubelsabs> how to auto-scp, the ~/.vimrc if I login?
[07:58] <Kalamansi> salty: samba is different from installing php+mysql+apache?
[07:58] <sebi_> Jordan_U, well if he is logged in as a user he uses /home , doesn't he ?
[07:58] <Jordan_U> romme, You can do many things, su to a user that does not have a home directory at all, mount another home directory from another drive or change your current user's home directory to be somwhere outside of /home
[07:58] <sebi_> Kalamansi, samba is the equivalent to windows filesharing
[07:58] <salty> Kalamansi: yes...different from lamp server
[07:58] <Jordan_U> sebi_, See my last comment
[07:58] <sebi_> Jordan_U, k
[07:59] <salty> Kalamansi: samba is for windows files
[07:59] <romme> Jurdan_U: but the problem is, i can't unmount it, and there are no open files
[07:59] <Kalamansi> salty: my apache+mysql+php is already running. is it a file server applications?i tried to login in http://192.168.1.23
[07:59] <brubelsabs> Jurdan_U: lsof /mount/point ?
[07:59] <Kalamansi> salty : i see
[08:00] <Jordan_U> romme, First of all, why are you trying to unmount /home, what is your goal?
[08:00] <romme> Jurdan_U: i need to shrink that partition
[08:00] <Jordan_U> romme, Also check lsof to confirm that there really are in fact no files open on your /home partition
[08:00] <brubelsabs> ups, sorry Jordan_U, this was meant for  romme
[08:00] <Jordan_U> romme, Can you use a LiveCD?
[08:00] <sebi_> romme, make a backup first
[08:00] <salty> Kalamansi: what you're talking about is a "LAMP" server... that's what you have already...it's not a "FTP" or a "SAMBA" server
[08:01] <sebi_> romme, shrinking is not safe
[08:01] <romme> yeah, i can, but that's a last resort. lsof shows nothing
[08:01] <xTheGoat121x> Evening all
[08:01] <Jordan_U> romme, Even when run as root?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> romme, lsof only shows files open by your user IIRC
[08:02] <ubuntufreak> I have problem with screen resolution in Ubuntu 7.10
[08:02] <xTheGoat121x> My CPU fan seems to be running a lot more frequently than it used to.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> romme, Or all users when run as root
[08:02] <Varka> Kalamansi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[08:02] <romme> Jordan_U: i'm logged in as root, and ps ax | grep romme shows nothing
[08:02] <adamadam20074> and im using gutsy 7.10
[08:03] <Jordan_U> romme, What about "lsof | grep /home" ?
[08:03] <julo> hi
[08:04] <romme> Jordan_U: under root, it shows nothing. should i do something like su romme and lsof /home ?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> romme, No
[08:04] <Jordan_U> romme, What error do you get when you try to umount /home?
[08:04] <romme> defice or resource busy
[08:04] <romme> s/defice/device/
[08:05] <julo> I have an AMD Geode graphics card, and I'm trying to use the Rotate option in xorg.conf. It works perfectly when on GDM, but when logged as a normal user, I get display artifacts, and the mouse can't move everywhere on the screen. Any idea which permission I'm missing, if any ?
[08:05] <sebi_> romme, type mount to see if the partion you want to mount is really /home
[08:05] <Jordan_U> romme, Is your /home on the same drive ( even if it's a seperate partition ) as / ?
[08:05] <julo> I tried to start a graphical session as root, and in this case it works perfectly...
[08:06] <sebi_> Jordan_U, why would that make any difference ?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> julo, You shouldn't do that, or if you do make sure you are at least not connected to the internet at the time
[08:06] <romme> Jordan_U: /dev/sda5 on /home type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,commit=900)
[08:07] <julo> Jordan_U: I know I shouldn't do that, but I tried it just to make sure it was a permission-related problem.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> sebi_, Parted will not let you change the partition table of a drive with any mounted partitions IIRC, so even if /home is unmounted he still would not be able to resize it
[08:07] <Jordan_U> julo, What is the problem? ( I am just coming into this )
[08:07] <Jordan_U> romme, Why don't you want to use a LiveCD?
[08:07] <Kalamansi> salty : lamp is also wamp/xamp server?
[08:08] <sebi_> Jordan_U, ah
[08:08] <Bloops> My internet is super slow and system monitor-> network history shows usage even when I'm not running any app that uses the internet. Is there a way to detect which process is using the bandwidth ?
[08:08] <salty> not sure Kalamansi
[08:08] <sebi_> romme, easyest way is boot a live-cd or the install-cd resize and boot again
[08:08] <romme> Jordan_U: well, i want to troubleshoot a problem. might be worth filing a bug for it.
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Bloops, You can check open connections with lsof
[08:09] <Jordan_U> romme, What problem?
[08:09] <sebi_> romme, doesn't look  like a bug , to be sure switch to single user mode via init 1 umount that reboot and resize
[08:09] <pgan> In file menu.lst, what does "root (hd0,0)" mean?  Or where can I get info about menu.lst's format?
[08:09] <romme> Jordan_U: not being able to unmount a partition
[08:09] <julo> Jordan_U: I have an AMD Geode graphics card, and I'm trying to use the Rotate option in xorg.conf. It works perfectly when on GDM, but when logged as a normal user, I get display artifacts, and the mouse can't move everywhere on the screen. Any idea which permission I'm missing, if any ?
[08:10] <romme> anyway, i'll boot from the cd now, as you suggest. thanks for not ignoring me so far
[08:10] <vermi> hey there. having a bit of an issue with aticonfig. when I try to sudo aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf, I end up with a core dump that begins *** glibc detected *** aticonfig: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0xbf8e49b3 ***
[08:10] <Jordan_U> julo, It's probably a settings issue rather than a permissions issue, try creating a new user and logging in as that, if that works try to figure out what config file in /home/you is causing the problem
[08:10] <Varka> Kalamansi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)
[08:11] <blackfox_> i use wine . but dont know how to change location to install
[08:11] <cl5> k
[08:11] <sebi_> pgan, man grub and /usr/share/doc/grub/
[08:11] <blackfox_> which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\install.exe
[08:11] <julo> Jordan_U: thanks, I'll try that ASAP
[08:11] <Jordan_U> vermi, You can also use debian's xorg configurator instead of aticonfig
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | vermi
[08:11] <ubotu> vermi: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:12] <vermi> ah, thanks, let me give that a try
[08:12] <Jordan_U> vermi, Be sure to choose "fglrx" instead of "ati"
[08:12] <blackfox_> i type wine "game" ..automatic go C:\\windows\\system32\\game.exe
[08:12] <Jordan_U> vermi, If you want to use the proprietary driver that is
[08:12] <blackfox_> what can i do?
[08:13] <vermi> also, another thing that has been bugging me...at system boot, I get an OUT OF RANGE message from my monitor, so I'm assuming the refresh rate is too high or something. After I type in my LUKS password, everything loads up and I finally get an image when the gdm login screen comes up. And yes, Jordan_U, that's what I'm trying to use :D
[08:14] <Jordan_U> blackfox_, If it's in program files for instance you can cd into ~/.wine/drivec/Program\ Files and run "wine ./game.exe" from there
[08:15] <vermi> so anyway, my question would be, is there some way to configure the refresh rate used during bootup?
[08:16] <Rattts> anyone know the maya equivalent for ubuntu?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> vermi, Looking into usplash might be a good start
[08:16] <Ghost-Rider> ubuntu
[08:16] <Jordan_U> Rattts, I think Maya is available for Linux... so Maya :)
[08:17] <vermi> Jordan_U: alright, i'll give that a look
[08:17] <Rattts> the free equivalent(rephrased)?
[08:17] <Unrealantidote> anyone know ubuntu real well?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Rattts, Blender
[08:17] <Rattts> thanx lol
[08:17] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Unrealantidote
[08:17] <ubotu> Unrealantidote: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:18] <Rattts> if i drew something in blender, wat filetype do i save it as so that it is just a matrix of points or a vector of points?
[08:18] <Varka> vermi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=604216
[08:18] <Jordan_U> Rattts, I believe .obj
[08:18] <Rattts> thanx
[08:18] <Unrealantidote> I am having trouble booting ubuntu on this system and dont know why
[08:19] <Rattts> thanx
[08:19] <Rattts> again lol
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Unrealantidote, What kind of trouble?
[08:19] <Jordan_U> Rattts, np :)
[08:19] <Unrealantidote> Jordan, it locks up while booting
[08:19] <blackfox_> my installer at wine /drivec/Program/system32/file/install
[08:19] <szkud> I'm having trouble building a good search query to find out how I'd search for computers and network devices on my wireless network. my router doesn't list anything. can someoen point me in the right direction?
[08:19] <blackfox_> what can i do?
[08:19] <Futsuriai> Hey, quick question, if I can see that something is using up half my cpu to do IO using gnome system monitor applet... how do I discover what it is, all the applications claim ignorance if I sort by CPU (but my HD begs to differ)
[08:20] <s> hello
[08:20] <blackfox_> ok i understand
[08:20] <Varka> Futsuriai, terminal: top
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Unrealantidote, Does it give you an error?
[08:21] <vermi> ah, thanks Varka
[08:21] <Futsuriai> Varka, but what do I look for, none of them seems to be using cpu
[08:21] <Unrealantidote> Jordan_U, it just locks up, the bar that travels back and forth just locks
[08:21] <s> im having now problem with booting, ubuntu wont boot until i press enter
[08:22] <Futsuriai> Hm, whatever it was, it stopped... but now I won't know what it is
[08:22] <s> is there any help
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Unrealantidote, Try booting in recovery mode or removing the "splash" kernel parameter when grub boots
[08:22] <Varka> Futsuriai, top lists all processes by the percentage of cpu usage from most to less
[08:22] <Jordan_U> s, does it show you a grub screen?
[08:22] <Futsuriai> Varka, yes, the problem was the program seemed to be using IO a lot, not so the CPU... it's gone now anywho
[08:22] <pgan> s: does it show anything on the screen when you turn it on?
[08:22] <s> what is grub screen
[08:23] <s> no its shows only black screen
[08:23] <Varka> Futsuriai, maybe trackerd, the indexing service
[08:23] <Unrealantidote> Jordan_U, Well, this isnt the only distro of linux that doesnt boot, I have tried Debian, Mandriva, Red hat, Hakin9 and they all do the same thing at the same time
[08:23] <pgan> s: then how did you know you should press Enter?
[08:24] <echosystm> i cant get my wireless working
[08:24] <Varka> Unrealantidote, what hardware?
[08:24] <Futsuriai> Varda, possibly... I had just killed a bunch of the little subprocesses since I was close to full ram usage.
[08:24] <echosystm> should atheros cards be detected automagically?
[08:24] <s> cuz i tried 3 times to let it to count down the 10 seconds and it didnt boot
[08:24] <julo> Jordan_U: it works perfectly, thanks !
[08:24] <Jordan_U> Unrealantidote, It would be usefull to know though what it is doing at that point, removing "splash" will let you see what is happening when it stops
[08:24] <s> and than i trie to press enter and it worked
[08:24] <szkud> how can I find out what other users are on my wireless network if my router doesn't list it?
[08:25] <Varka> Futsuriai, linux alway uses about the whole ram available, if not for processes it is using it for caching, so dont worry about it
[08:25] <Col^> szkud, you could sniff network packages, but that's illegal in the most countries
[08:25] <Unrealantidote> Varka, its a HP computer, checking model number now
[08:25] <szkud> USA?
[08:25] <echosystm> anyone? atheros cards installed automatically or do i need to do something?
[08:25] <s> is it possible to make ubuntu to be the second boot
[08:25] <Col^> szkud, i wouldn't know.
[08:25] <pgan> s: so it shows a countdown?
[08:25] <Col^> But i think so szkud.
[08:25] <Unrealantidote> jordan_U, I will try that in just one min
[08:25] <Varka> s, man grub
[08:26] <s> yes it shows a 10 sec conttown
[08:26] <Futsuriai> Varka, no, no, I was actually using all my ram... I was running a high-depth search using transposition tables for an AI project :p
[08:26] <Col^> s, do you have GRUB installed?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> szkud, Col^ I don't know of any country where it is illegal to sniff packets on your own network...
[08:26] <s> but what is grub
[08:26] <Varka> Futsuriai, ok ;)
[08:26] <pgan> s: that's what we were asking you, does it show anything on the screen.
[08:26] <Col^> well Jordan_U, in Denmark - i think - it's illegal, because you sniff other peoples traffic
[08:26] <Jordan_U> echosystm, Unless they require the newest madwifi drivers it should be automagic
[08:27] <pgan> s: it's a program that loads the linux kernel.  it's the first program that is loaded into memory.
[08:27] <echosystm> :(
[08:27] <s> no it doesnt it just show black screen
[08:27] <echosystm> well thats a pickle
[08:27] <Jordan_U> Col^, They are on your network, if they don't want you to see what they are doing they can go somewhere else :)
[08:27] <echosystm> does it need to be setup somehow?
[08:27] <echosystm> im actually using fluxbuntu
[08:27] <Unrealantidote> Varka, HP Pavilion 1220n  with 1 gig of ram and a Radion 9200
[08:27] <echosystm> not ubuntu
[08:27] <echosystm> but the fluxbuntu guys seem non-responsive
[08:27] <Col^> well Jordan_U, it's still illegal to sniff other peoples package
[08:27] <Col^> +s
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Col^, Otherwize it would be illegal to have security cameras in your own home :)
[08:28] <Col^> true, but still. It's kinda different with data traffic i think
[08:28] <pgan> s: you said it shows a countdown, that's important.  Does it have options of what kernel to boot, like Ubuntu or Windows, that you can choose with your keyboard?
[08:28] <s> yes tehre are several option to boot
[08:28] <Col^> but then again, i would buy a router which shows, the computers connected to the network, rather than sniffing packages
[08:29] <Col^> for that problem
[08:29] <s> i have also xp
[08:29] <Jordan_U> pgan, I need to go, I assume you know how to help s change the timeout in his /boot/grub/menu.list if that is the problem?
[08:29] <pgan> Jordan_U: sure
[08:29] <szkud> Col^: I'd love to view that but I'd have to put some kind of different firmware on my router to do that.
[08:30] <Varka> Unrealantidote, ok, so the hardware itself shouldnt be the problem afaik
[08:30] <Col^> and that's a problem for you? I mean, you could sniff the networn, but it's kinda sad if it really is illegal
[08:30] <Col^> network*
[08:31] <pgan> s: XP is the first option but you want Ubuntu to be the first option?
[08:31] <Col^> szkud, it's just easier if you update the firmware, for future use.
[08:31] <Unrealantidote> Varka, thats what i was thinking, but, I have the actual Ubuntu disk and actual Red hat disks, so it cant be a disk error
[08:31] <s> no ubuntu is the first option
[08:31] <szkud> yes that is a problem. the last router I upgraded the firmware on bricked and at the moment I don't feel like buying another one if that happens
[08:31] <chilli_> join /#ecere
[08:31] <chilli_> #ecere
[08:31] <chilli_> hey
[08:32] <chilli_> people
[08:32] <pgan> s: sorry, what do you want again?
[08:32] <Varka> echosystm, http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[08:32] <Col^> szkud, i wouldn't think that it will be a problem, cause it's kinda easy updating firmware, but i understand your concern. So i think it's up to you to decide
[08:33] <s> i would like to fix the problem with booting in ubuntu  and if possible to make xp to be the first boot
[08:33] <Varka> echosystm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[08:33] <szkud> I've already got sniffit installed now
[08:34] <Unrealantidote> Varka, brb, going to grab a drink
[08:34] <pgan> s: OK, open a terminal in Ubuntu and type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" (without the quotes).
[08:34] <Varka> Unrealantidote, do what Jordan_U suggested, disable remove "splash" and "quiet" from the grub kernel starting line and look for the errormessages
[08:34] <Unrealantidote> Varka, will do, will be back when i figure out what my errors are
[08:35] <Col^> szkud, then it's no problem. I don't know Sniffit (since i test wifi on my mac), but it's used to be easy to set up packagesniffer
[08:35] <s> i have a menu list now
[08:35] <Varka> s, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:36]  * wenja welcomes mytself
[08:36] <chilli_> #movies
[08:36] <szkud> s: startup-manager is a gui version of a grub editor
[08:36] <blackfox_> my file at drive c /program files/perfect world/install.exe (wine)
[08:36] <wenja> my wireless card is not working
[08:36] <blackfox_> how can i open that file?
[08:37] <szkud> Col^ looks like I should be able to run with this. thanks for the help
[08:37] <Col^> np
[08:37] <Col^> school is boring anyway, glad i could help
[08:37] <Col^> :)
[08:37] <wenja> my wireless card is intel pro wireless 2200
[08:37] <chilli_> hey
[08:38] <chilli_> were can i download transfromers>?
[08:38] <pgan> s: I think you should read  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto, and call again here if you still have questions
[08:38] <shameless_> www.vid-stream.com i think
[08:39] <wenja> can anybody help me with my wireless?
[08:39] <kane77> chilli_, wrong channel..
[08:39] <s> im reading the first link and it seens to me very complicated
[08:39] <chilli_> what channle should i ask on
[08:39] <shameless_> i'm working on getting my asus R1f tablt working, but i can't find anything about the tablet screen or finger print reader, anyone have any ideas?
[08:39] <Varka> blackfox_, first open "winecfg" -> drives and add a driveletter for the mountpoint of your windows c: partition, then run it with wine /mountpointofthepartition/program\ files/perfect\ world/install.exe
[08:40] <wenja> anybody's intel prowireless 2200 working on gutsy?
[08:41] <wenja> hi all, my wireless card isn't working. its an ipw 2200
[08:41] <bkraptor> I don't own a 2200 and I'm no expert, but how can you tell it's not working?
[08:42] <Varka> wenja, should work, if driver isnt loaded automatically just sudo modprobe sudo modprobe ipw2200  , http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/  for additional information
[08:43] <Col^> wenja, have you tried switching to the Wext driver, as it said in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299843 ?
[08:43] <s> guys this is so complicated for me, ive installed yesterday ubuntu for the first time
[08:43] <s> this with boot is hurd for me
[08:44] <imyousuf> I need a lil help. I need to know is a parport module for the Ubuntu Kernel? if so how I add it to the kernel without having to recompile the kernel
[08:44] <imyousuf> I need the parallel port module for my Edge modem
[08:46] <mokomull> I've noticed that, on this system, running Gutsy amd64 server, the kernel goes nuts gobbling RAM under heavy filesystem loads (such as that of rsync)
[08:46] <Dusti[n]> i also need help.... when i try to install any version or distro i get a kernel panic message or a I/O error any ideas anyone?
[08:46] <shameless_> anyone have any ideas on how to get a usb console tablet screen to work?
[08:46] <mokomull> Dusti[n]: What sort of kernel panic?
[08:46] <gerr> hello
[08:47] <gerr> after upgraded to 8.04, grub still display ubuntu 7.10 ,anything wrong?
[08:47] <bkraptor> 8.04? is it out yet?
[08:47] <mokomull> gerr: Doubt it.  It probably didn't change your menu.lst.  No need to worry.
[08:47] <gerr> beta
[08:47] <mokomull> bkraptor: alpha
[08:47] <bkraptor> ah
[08:47] <Dusti[n]> mokomull: <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd370 printing eip:
[08:48] <mokomull> Dusti[n]: What sort of system is this running on?
[08:48] <imyousuf> I need a lil help. I need to know is a parport (I am assuming this is the parallel port module for kernel) module for the Ubuntu Kernel? if so how I add it to the kernel without having to recompile the kernel.  I need the parallel port module for my Edge modem
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address ffffd370 printing eip:compaq 2.8ghz 760mb RAM with a new HD is all i know
[08:48] <gerr> mokomull: it seems kernel is not update
[08:48] <Dusti[n]> oppps
[08:49] <Dusti[n]> sorry
[08:49] <wenja> Varka: didn't work after that sudo
[08:49] <gerr> kernel is still 2.6.22-14
[08:49] <Dusti[n]> mokomull:compaq 2.8ghz 760mb RAM with a new HD is all i know
[08:49] <mokomull> gerr: There may not be a new version of the kernel for 8.04 yet, I dunno.
[08:49] <wenja> Col^: no, and i'm using ubuntu 7.10, not 6.10
[08:50] <gerr> anyone here is using 8.04?
[08:50] <mokomull> gerr: yeah, the linux-image package is still 2.6.22.14
[08:50] <wenja> Varka: it says module ipw2200 not found, what do i need to install?
[08:51] <gerr> mokomull: ok
[08:51] <OfMindandMetal> good evening
[08:52] <Dusti[n]> mokomull: ive searched the entire internet... i even found a guy on youtube with a video with the same computer as mine and same problem but no one could help him eather. want me to find the youtube link?
[08:53] <Varka> wenja, what ubuntu do you run? gutsy?
[08:53] <OfMindandMetal> So, I am having a problem compiling the latest v4l-dvb.  during my make it says "File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/.config at ./scripts/make_kconfig.pl line 32, <IN> line 4.
[08:53] <OfMindandMetal> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `.myconfig', needed by `config-compat.h'.  Stop."
[08:53] <OfMindandMetal> anyone know where I might find that .config file?
[08:53] <osbee> hello I previously got an answer to a Sylpheed question here when I used Xubuntu and now i'm using Debian Xfce I suspect I need the same answer I want Sylphhed to display html in Dillo when I click a link but i don't want diloo as my preferred browser. Someone here was able to tell me how to do this and I'm hoping it will work again as I forgot to back up all my settings.
[08:53] <wenja> Varka: yes
[08:53] <Varka> wenja, k, wait a minute, ill have a look
[08:54] <wenja> Varka: ok
[08:54] <osbee> the sylpheed group is always empty :(
[08:56] <osbee> I can't even remember the nick of the person who knew :(
[08:56] <osbee> I didn't think it was worth backing up hen I was still just trying things but obviously I was wrong there
[08:59] <shameless_> anyone know anything about running a tablet pc screen on ubuntu gutsy 7.10?
[08:59] <gerr> howto check my ubuntu version?
[08:59] <fildo> lsb_release -a
[08:59] <Varka> wenja, im sry, but this is strange, as the ipw2200 should be in the list of modules for the gutsy kernel by default. what does sudo modinfo ipw2200 say?
[09:00] <wenja> Varka: modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/modules.dep
[09:00] <gast_> moin
[09:01] <Varka> wenja, this seems as you have quite bigger problems than setting up you wlan connection :/
[09:01] <gast_> ey hr mistgeburten
[09:01] <wenja> Varka: it is a clean install. did something go wrong then?
[09:02] <Varka> wenja, sry, cant tell
[09:02] <Varka> wenja, this is above my knowledge im afraid
[09:02] <wenja> Varka: thanks alot
[09:03] <gerr> any channel here for hardy?
[09:03] <Varka> gerr, #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <Kalamansi> hello.we want to use ubuntu 7.10 desktop with skype,yahoo messenger,bookmarking application,friendsblaster,aptana,gimp,paint.net,gimpshop...Q: do we need to download all packages pc for pc just to run that applications?isnt that time consuming?we only have 1.6 mbps and 41 users... =/ ...
[09:08] <matxEpt8> Kalamansi, yer, do it over night if it bothers you ;)
[09:09] <Kalamansi> as in one by one?pc by pc ?
[09:09] <matxEpt8> hmmm you might be able to set a comp to share the sources
[09:09] <Kalamansi> one pc download packages took 15 minutes....
[09:09] <Parsi> hot to execute a .run file?
[09:09] <bkraptor> so, does anyone know of a repository from where to install VMware Player ?
[09:09] <Parsi> *how to
[09:10] <Kalamansi> Parsi: use wine
[09:10] <matxEpt8> bkraptor, you can get vmware of the vmware site
[09:10] <Kalamansi> sudoe wine
[09:10] <Kalamansi> sudo wine
[09:10] <MohammadBoozary> Parsi: hi !
[09:10] <Parsi> MohammadBoozary, hi
[09:10] <MohammadBoozary> Parsi: are u iraian ?
[09:10] <Parsi> yes
[09:10] <bkraptor> yeah, but it's .tar.gz, no clean way of uninstalling it
[09:10] <chilli_> hello
[09:10] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8 : no other way for easy install?
[09:10] <chilli_> hello
[09:11] <MohammadBoozary> Parsi: che khoob belakhareh ye hamvatan too #ubuntu didim :)
[09:11] <Parsi> Kalamansi: .run is a linux installer
[09:11] <matxEpt8> not really sure, im a gentoo guy and that lets you share the source files between multiple comps
[09:11] <bkraptor> packet management is what I like most about ubuntu
[09:11] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8 : just like now..i have to download skype and install..took 10 minutes to install
[09:11] <Parsi> MohammadBoozary: PM
[09:11] <bkraptor> so I'm not willing to give that up for no good reason
[09:11] <Kalamansi> Parsi : i see
[09:11] <chilli_> hello
[09:11] <chilli_> how do i install google earth on 7.10
[09:11] <chilli_> i have the bin file now what
[09:11] <Parsi> there was a "sh" command to run .run files in openSuSE
[09:11] <Parsi> is there something similar?
[09:12] <chilli_> how do i install google earth on 7.10
[09:12] <Kalamansi> Parsi : Compare ubuntu to opensuse or suse?
[09:12] <Parsi> openSuSE
[09:12] <chilli_> #google
[09:12] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: how to share?what application do i need?
[09:12] <Parsi> i just downloaded XFCE .run file
[09:13] <Parsi> xfce4-4.4.1-installer.run
[09:13] <matxEpt8> i dont know Kalamansi, there should be a way tho, ubuntu has to store its files somewhere right to install them
[09:13] <Parsi> how can i install it??
[09:13] <Kalamansi> Parsi : are you running a server in opensuse?
[09:13] <Parsi> Kalamansi: i'm in ubuntu!
[09:13] <matxEpt8> if you know where the files stored, then all you do is simply copy or mount the filesystem on all your comps
[09:14] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: you can run yahoo ,messenger, friendblaster,skype,aptana,gimpshop,gimp,paint.net,bookmarking in gentoo?
[09:14] <matxEpt8> ;) in wine ;)
[09:14] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: i see wine..ok
[09:14] <void^> Parsi: and why would you want to install xfce4 that way?
[09:15] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: but isnt that time consuming?you download each packages one by one pc by pc?
[09:15] <Parsi> i like it!
[09:15] <matxEpt8> erm no...
[09:15] <matxEpt8> in gentoo, i can tell it to download what i want...
[09:15] <matxEpt8> then on my laptop, it searches for the files on my pc before it downloads of the internet
[09:15] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8 using wine?
[09:15] <matxEpt8> lol, no
[09:16] <matxEpt8> im talking about linux binaries
[09:16] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: ok.have you tried running a server with packet filtering?
[09:16] <matxEpt8> but, cant you download the applications on one pc and just copy and paste them on the other comps
[09:16] <matxEpt8> nope
[09:17] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8 you know application to use for limiting bandwidth of a certain user in a workstations?
[09:17] <matxEpt8> sort off
[09:17] <matxEpt8> i never tried it myself
[09:17] <matxEpt8> but it can be done quite simply,
[09:17] <matxEpt8> via tutorials on internets
[09:18] <matxEpt8> -s
[09:18] <matxEpt8> ^_^
[09:18] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: yeah but how about copying an entire packages?
[09:18] <shameless_> anyone have experience with tablet pcs and ubuntu?
[09:18] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: for example i am done downloading all package  in 1 pc..how to copy the packages to 2nd pc?
[09:18] <erUSUL> !aptoncd
[09:18] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[09:18] <s> yes
[09:18] <ShredZ> how do I make sure a route add I entered is restored after a reboot ?
[09:18] <matxEpt8> how did you download the packages?
[09:18] <kahrytan> !clone | Kalamansi
[09:18] <ubotu> Kalamansi: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[09:19] <matxEpt8> ^-- what he said
[09:19] <imyousuf> I want to recompile my feisty kernel, can someone give me a useful link for it?
[09:19] <erUSUL> !kernel
[09:19] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[09:19] <matxEpt8> kernel.org maybe
[09:19] <Kalamansi> !automate
[09:19] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[09:19] <kahrytan> !clone just merely copies a list of packages installed.
[09:20] <Kalamansi> kahrytan: really?
[09:20] <kahrytan> Kalamansi,  yeah. It spits out a list of installed packages  which allows you to apt-get install list
[09:21] <imyousuf> matxEpt8, ubotu thanks
[09:25] <jscinoz> this is epic... https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[09:25] <kahrytan> what about bug 1
[09:25] <jscinoz> its awsome :P
[09:26] <kahrytan> jscinoz,  what you gonna do to fix it
[09:26] <jscinoz> Hand out ubuntu cd's to strangers!
[09:27] <kahrytan> not burned
[09:27] <jscinoz> nah the proper ones :P
[09:28] <jscinoz> i got a boatload of them :P
[09:28] <jscinoz> (i.e. 500+)
[09:28] <jscinoz> yay for mass orders
[09:30] <matxEpt8> jscinoz,  microsoft fixed that bug by releasing vista
[09:30] <jscinoz> >_<
[09:30] <jscinoz> so true
[09:30] <shameless_> ha, and made a crappy os while they were atit
[09:30] <shameless_> at it*
[09:30] <matxEpt8> :)
[09:30] <riaal> how can I put two grep options in one statement, whit out having to repipe? like cat text | grep 1 | grep 2
[09:31] <imyousuf> yes
[09:31] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya... i run a network of ubuntu machines and i have apt-cache set up... is there any way to 'prime' the apt-cache with files from an ubuntu cd? i want to put the .debs from gutsy gibbon in there...
[09:33] <pvh_sa|wrk> riaal, you can seperate two options with a | like this: grep '\(option1\|option2\)'
[09:35] <imyousuf> thanks pvh_sa|wrk I also did not know that
[09:36] <Tomcat_> pvh_sa|wrk: grep 1 | grep 2 will be an AND of 1 and 2 though, while you present an OR. ;)
[09:36] <imyousuf> Tomcat_ thank you too
[09:37] <pvh_sa|wrk> Tomcat_, true. so its not "like" riaal's example really
[09:37] <Tomcat_> imyousuf: What's the problem with piping twice?
[09:37] <imyousuf> no problem
[09:37] <imyousuf> I did not know the difference
[09:38] <imyousuf> actually I always required and so piping worked fine
[09:38] <Tomcat_> imyousuf: To join both greps, you need to change the expression...
[09:38] <AdvoWork> you know when working with vim, do the gaps between stuff have to be spaces or tabs, or can they be both?
[09:38] <Tomcat_> AdvoWork: Can be both afaik
[09:38] <riaal> pvh_sa|wrk: can't get it to work
[09:40] <AdvoWork> how do you check the permissions on a certain file?
[09:40] <AdvoWork> ie who owns it?
[09:41] <Tomcat_> AdvoWork: ls -l <file>
[09:42] <AdvoWork> Tomcat_,  i get total 0 :s
[09:42] <Tomcat_> AdvoWork: In that case, your specification of <file> is wrong ;)
[09:42] <AdvoWork> but if i change the filename to a different one, it works fine
[09:42] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: right click on it choose properties :P
[09:44] <shameless_> this should be fun, i have to call asus to get the exact model number for the screen and fingerprint reader....
[09:45] <AdvoWork> hmm, im doing: chown -R zimbra.zimbra /opt/zimbra/postfix-2.2.9/conf/disclaimers  but still doing ls -l /opt/zimbra/postfix-2.2.9/conf/disclaimers says total 0
[09:45] <s> anyone can fix the sound problem to toshiba satelite l30
[09:45] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: kahrytan: i download my packages by clicking the icon at the top near the clock....
[09:46] <Kalamansi> matxEpt8: kahrytan: i will use ubuntu in all my workstations soon..i just want to know about a thing..i will download all packages in one pc..then copy all packages that ive downloaded in pc1 and copy it to pc2 and so on..
[09:47] <matxEpt8> yer
[09:47] <s> no help here
[09:47] <matxEpt8> ubuntu "should" provide means of syncing between local pcs ^_^
[09:47] <erUSUL> !sound | s
[09:47] <ubotu> s: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:47] <erUSUL> !intelhda | s
[09:47] <ubotu> s: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[09:48] <s> ok
[09:48] <erUSUL> matxEpt8: rsync?
[09:48] <matxEpt8> yer
[09:49] <matxEpt8> however, on my system i just mount the filesystem or host the files on a webserver and treat my pc as a mirror :D
[09:49] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | Kalamansi
[09:49] <ubotu> Kalamansi: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[09:49] <drcode> hi all
[09:49] <drcode> how do I config by gui xorg.config?
[09:49] <matxEpt8> yo
[09:49] <drcode> I don
[09:50] <drcode> I don't remmber the command
[09:50] <erUSUL> drcode: System>Admin>Screen Graphics
[09:51] <drcode> in console
[09:51] <erUSUL> drcode: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[09:52] <mikebeecham> RatThing: ....morning mate
[09:53] <kane77> how do I open nfs shared folders?
[09:54] <RatThing> Hello mikebeecham :-)
[09:54] <RatThing> dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[09:54] <copyleftdev> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2042/2083517186_8940f1d943_b.jpg
[09:54] <RatThing> doh
[09:54] <mikebeecham> RatThing: wow....nice spam there :D
[09:54] <RatThing> sorry
[09:54] <matxEpt8> dd
[09:54] <erUSUL> !nfs | kane77
[09:54] <ubotu> kane77: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:55] <matxEpt8> lol, evil dd
[09:55]  * RatThing moves his keyboard a bit..
[09:56] <mikebeecham> RatThing: so you should be...spamming a channel like that :)
[09:57] <RatThing> mikebeecham, I saw what I did, carefully attempted to press the backsapce and pressed the enter instead :/
[09:57] <mikebeecham> RatThing : It's happened to us all at one stage or another....well, actually...I say that....it's never happened to me
[09:57] <mikebeecham> ;)
[09:57] <Ein_> hi
[09:58] <Ein_> any one can help me to install beryl?
[09:58] <RatThing> :-)
[09:59] <erUSUL> !beryl
[09:59] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[09:59] <Ein_> yes
[09:59] <mikebeecham> RatThing : new day and all that...linux life is good.  I found quite a few bits of software to compliment what is already installed, and I REALLY cant see a reason to go back to windows now
[09:59] <mikebeecham> I even have Photoshop CS3 installed
[09:59] <blackfox_> i dont know how to run file at folder program file (wine hq)
[10:00] <Ein_> there is Photoshop CS3 for linux?
[10:00] <erUSUL> Ein_: no, you can try to make it work with wine though
[10:00] <RatThing> mikebeecham, the one thing I can guarantee (as near as anything in life can be guaranteed) you will never suffer from spyware or computer viruses again.
[10:00] <erUSUL> !wine > Ein_
[10:01] <erUSUL> !appdb > Ein_
[10:03] <mikebeecham> RatThing : that raises a good question....is it worth installing firestarter on that basis?  I have a very good firewall on my router and never used windows firewall...should I use it?
[10:04] <Ein_>  I face problem with printer and scanner for supporting linux
[10:05] <RatThing> mikebeecham I have five (maybe more) PC all running *ubuntu all with firestarter installed. Firestarter is great for share an internet connection but if you are using any kind of wireless network then all pcs on that network should have their own firewall.
[10:05] <Ein_> the drivers not inclode with linux OS
[10:05] <sachi> is there any url how to configure effects
[10:06] <sachi> i dont have watter effects
[10:06] <erUSUL> !ccsm
[10:06] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[10:06] <sachi> yes i did that
[10:06] <sachi> but i cant have watter effects
[10:06] <sachi> i pres shift and f9 but no work
[10:07] <mikebeecham> RatThing: I did have firestarter installed, but for some reason it was knocking out the access to a shared folder, despite me adding in the IP address of the media center that was accessing it.  The only way to restore the connection was to disable Firestarter...I guess it is just a case of setting it up correctly
[10:07] <erUSUL> sachi: worls here for what is worth... have you checked the key assoc?
[10:08] <sachi> whtas that
[10:10] <erUSUL> sachi: sorry i mean check that shift + f9 is actually the keys asociated with thast action
[10:10] <sachi> ive checked that and those r the right keys
[10:10] <RatThing> mikebeecham, if by shared you mean samba (?) then you just have to enable samba's port range. One easy way of doing it is to let firestarter block it, look in the event tab, find the block message, right click on the block message and select "Allow...".
[10:11] <RatThing> mikebeecham event tab of firestarter that is.
[10:11] <mikebeecham> RatThing: I will have a look at that when I get home :D
[10:13] <RatThing> Ein_ which scanner do you have
[10:14] <Ein_> I have Epson Stylus Photo RX520
[10:14] <sachi> #ubuntu-sr
[10:14] <RatThing> Ein_ is it a USB scanner?
[10:15] <Ein_> yes
[10:16] <darin> nvidia refer's me to here for kernel driver issues...anyone willing to point me in the right direction?
[10:16] <RatThing> Ein_ here's the basic setup method, see how you feel about it :-) You have to find a .bin file on the Windows installation CD that came with that scanner...
[10:16] <Ein_> ok?
[10:16] <RatThing> Ein_ then it has to be copied to a directory and a configuration file has to be editied.
[10:17] <RatThing> Ein_ pretty much that is it.
[10:17] <paradon> I'm having a really annoying problem with Gutsy on my laptop
[10:17] <paradon> After it's been running a few hours, it does this wierd thing
[10:17] <Ein_> how I can Edit it?
[10:17] <sachi> which is the best linux till now which version
[10:17] <paradon> the "system" CPU usage jumps to about 50% for 15-20 seconds, and everything pretty much stops responding
[10:18] <dgjones> !best | sachi
[10:18] <ubotu> sachi: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:18] <paradon> then it's ok for 15-20 seconds, then it 'hangs' again for 15-20 seconds, etc....
[10:18] <paradon> How can I find out what's causing it?
[10:18] <RatThing> Ein_ another thing is to find out if xsane supports your scanner :-) just googling now.
[10:18] <dgjones> sachi, there isn't a best version, its whats most suitable for your own use, I like Ubuntu because it does everything I need
[10:18] <glick> hello
[10:19] <edd_> hello
[10:19] <glick> excuse me i just upgraded to gibbon and i lost all my 3d desktop settings
[10:19] <sachi> aha ok
[10:19] <glick> where do i set up the 3d cube and stuff again
[10:19] <sachi> im a new guy here for ubuntu
[10:19] <sachi> just to check
[10:19] <dgjones> !compiz | glick
[10:19] <ubotu> glick: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:19] <edd_> no
[10:20] <Ein_> I have xsane ;)
[10:20] <brobostigon> hi, good morning
[10:20] <RatThing> Ein_ I googled "sane epson RX520" and the top problems seem to be on OS/2 so prolly it will work.
[10:20] <edd_> i'm poland
[10:21] <sachi> is there any possibility to put the fire back from a window
[10:21] <edd_> he
[10:21] <edd_> co u was??
[10:21] <dgjones> !pl | edd_, If you want Ubuntu support in Polish, this may help you
[10:21] <ubotu> edd_, If you want Ubuntu support in Polish, this may help you: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:22] <edd_> bay bay
[10:22] <Ein_> I'll try to solve it
[10:23] <RatThing> Ein_ http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX520
[10:23] <RatThing> Ein_ for a little information on your printer with Linux
[10:24] <RatThing> Ein_ install xsane: sudo apt-get install xsane
[10:24] <RatThing> Ein_ you are going to need that for the scanning.
[10:24] <RatThing> Ein_ xsane is the scanning application.
[10:26] <RatThing> Ein_ once xsane is installed you need to edit a file in /etc/sane.d/
[10:27] <edd_> cześć
[10:27] <RatThing> Ein_ sorry to be vague but it will be a .conf file that makes mention of your scanner.
[10:27] <edd_> co u was??
[10:27] <dgjones> !cz | edd_
[10:27] <ubotu> edd_: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[10:27] <glick> why why are emblems in gibbon so small?
[10:28] <Ein_> now I'm downloading the driver from the  site you given me
[10:28] <edd_> uboto ty jeto to czeskie??
[10:28] <Ein_> no problem
[10:28] <edd_> co??
[10:28] <RatThing> Ein_ copy the .bin file from your Windows installation CD to: /usr/share/sane/mayBeAnotherDir/
[10:29] <glick> the emblems in the file manager are super small
[10:29] <glick> can i get them largers>?
[10:29] <edd_> si
[10:29] <edd_> pl
[10:29] <gordonjcp> !pl | edd_
[10:29] <ubotu> edd_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:30] <cruox> How can I get windows on multiple levels while rotating my desktop-cube?
[10:30] <cruox> I saw that effect somewhere and dunno if it's for compiz.
[10:30] <RatThing> Ein_ In the .conf file I mentioned, changed the firemware reference to that bin file so: firmware /usr/share/sane/mayBeAnotherDir/your.bin
[10:30] <RatThing> Ein_ restart the scanner.
[10:31] <RatThing> Ein_ Start xsane
[10:32] <glick> anyone else have that issue?
[10:32] <glick> emblems being really tiny?
[10:34] <shameless_> i'm trying to get an STMicroelectronics finger print scanner to work on my laptop, has anyone dealt with one of those?
[10:35] <Ein_> the file I download it is .rpm file type and I can't open it
[10:35] <RatThing> Ein_ no don't try to open it. it is a driver that has to be installed.
[10:36] <Ein_> I see
[10:36] <RatThing> Ein_ sorry my misunderstanding...
[10:36] <Ein_> I think that also :)
[10:36] <mikebeecham> Does anyone know if there is support for Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 within Gutsy Gibbon?  I've looked on the forums and cannot find anything similiar
[10:37] <Ein_> ok... this .rpm file where I can but it?
[10:37] <Oli``> Kaffeine, Amarok and Firefox are all set to use ALSA (aoss for Firefox), but only one can use sound at the same time. What's likely to be my issue?
[10:39] <LeenuxRawksAll> hi guys
[10:39] <LeenuxRawksAll> big problems here...
[10:40] <LeenuxRawksAll> I had 2 different ubuntu installs on my machine, one on sda1 and sda 3, well I deleted the one on sda3 and now I can't boot my primary partition, even after Re-installing ubuntu to the second partition
[10:41] <shameless_> did you reformat that partition before you tried reinstalling to it?
[10:41] <LeenuxRawksAll> yes of course
[10:42] <LeenuxRawksAll> basically, grub isn't seeing the other, older install
[10:42] <RatThing> Ein_ a .rpm file is a packaged up bunch of files, sort of like a
[10:42] <RatThing> 		   zip file so you have to extract the files from it in order to use
[10:42] <RatThing> 		   them.
[10:43]  * RatThing gives up having a bad keyboard day... :-D
[10:43] <mikebeecham> RatThing : you had a bad keyboard day yesterday as well mate...you have run out of excuses :D
[10:43] <GerrySly> hey guys, I'm having trouble with my sound card, nothing is playing through amarok and the error message I get is Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.
[10:43] <GerrySly> yet no other program is running which would take the sound card
[10:44] <RatThing> mikebeecham thanks for the support :-/
[10:44] <Snakudes> If you run vsftpd, is it possible to mount 2 HDD's en the same directory then?
[10:44] <Snakudes> I mean visuallly for my FTP users
[10:44] <RatThing> :-)
[10:44] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, are you abe to mount sda1 from within your fresh install to check what is in the first install's fstab? Possibly you just need to copy that info over into the fstab for the new install
[10:44] <mikebeecham> RatThing: ...I meant to say that this is very unusual for you, and you should just put it down to tiredness and a lack of coffee in your system :D
[10:44] <LeenuxRawksAll> dgjones, I try to open it and all I get is a "Lost and Found" folder...
[10:46] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know what I have to do to bypass the starting fsck ? grub command ?
[10:47] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, i'm not sure whats happened, but it sounds as though its been formatted if thats all thats left, can you tell how much free space and what size the partition was originally?
[10:47] <vlt> Hello. What's the difference between the ubuntu 6.06 LTS kernel packages linux-image-{386,686,k7} and linux-image-server?
[10:47] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'job' in man initctl?
[10:47] <LeenuxRawksAll> total capacity is 25gb with only 1.5 used
[10:48] <LeenuxRawksAll> on sda1
[10:48] <mikebeecham> Does anyone know if there is support for the logitech QuickCam Pro 4000?
[10:48] <LeenuxRawksAll> I tried to Chown but it kept giving me "invalid user" errors...
[10:48] <LeenuxRawksAll> It's still there... it's just not seeing it...
[10:48] <RatThing> mikebeecham have you got the webcam attached right now?
[10:49] <tntCry> how can you reset xchat to default settings?
[10:49] <mikebeecham> RatThing: it's a general question at this point, as I am at work...but the camera is plugged in at home, eys
[10:49] <mikebeecham> yes
[10:49] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, 1.5Gb seems low for an install of ubuntu though, thats what made me think it might have been formatted, is it the same format type ext3 etc as the new install
[10:49] <MindSpark> tntCry, rm -rf ~/.xchat
[10:49] <LeenuxRawksAll> sda1 is ext3 and the new one is ext2
[10:49] <RatThing> mikebeecham first thing to do is type: lsusb
[10:49] <LeenuxRawksAll> think that might be it?
[10:49] <tntCry> so rm -rf ~/. anything will reset ? like pidgins kopete ect.?
[10:50] <RatThing> mikebeecham to see if it is listed, I am certain it will be.
[10:50] <MindSpark> tntCry, it will delete your configuration, but if you have a download directory inside, it will be deleted as well
[10:50] <tntCry> mindframe_, i typed it in console
[10:50] <tntCry> i muys tclose and come back
[10:50] <tntCry> brb
[10:50] <MindSpark> tntCry, and it's rm -rf ~/.xchat, not rm -rf ~/.
[10:50] <mikebeecham> ok...taking notes now
[10:50] <RatThing> mikebeecham then install: xawtv & webcam
[10:51] <RatThing> mikebeecham then run at a console: xawtv -hwscan
[10:51] <LeenuxRawksAll> see, I've had sda1 installed for months... and I created another partition with gparted and did another install of ubuntu on it, but decided to delete that new install, and for some reason, the old grub didn't click in to boot the system...
[10:51] <mikebeecham> RatThing: what is xawtv?
[10:51] <RatThing> mikebeecham that will determain if the current installed drivers are there.
[10:51] <MindSpark> tntCry, I hope you didn't remove ~/.
[10:51] <rambo3> vlt, 686 is generic now.  those are p1 , p2-4p, amd , linux-image server i don't know what that is
[10:52] <MindSpark> any grub gurus here ?
[10:52] <LeenuxRawksAll> when I installed ubuntu on sda3 last time, it picked it right up...isn't there a way that I can add grub back to sda1?
[10:52] <MindSpark> I need to bypass fsck on startup
[10:52] <RatThing> mikebeecham xawtv can be used for many things including controlling webcams :-)
[10:52] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, when I've had multiple installations, the grub that was used was the most recent one, so presumably deleting the original grub
[10:52] <tntCry> didnt work
[10:52] <dgjones> !grub | LeenuxRawksAll, You could try this and see if it can redect your original install and
[10:52] <ubotu> LeenuxRawksAll, You could try this and see if it can redect your original install and: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:52] <tntCry> rm -rf ~/.xchat
[10:52] <tntCry> this didnt work :( rm -rf ~/.xchat
[10:53] <tntCry> mindframe_,
[10:53] <rambo3> MindSpark, that would be in fstab
[10:53] <tntCry> MindSpark,  i mean
[10:53] <rambo3> !fstab |  MindSpark
[10:53] <ubotu> MindSpark: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:53] <LeenuxRawksAll> will do... I'll report back with progress
[10:53] <LeenuxRawksAll> Thank you!
[10:53] <dgjones> LeenuxRawksAll, Good luck, hope it works for you
[10:53] <rambo3> MindSpark, < 5th and 6th columns: Dump and fsck options >
[10:53] <vlt> rambo3: I was especially intersted in the "-server" part ;-) Hmmmm ... Do you know by which kernel (in 6.06 LTS) PAE is supported?
[10:54] <vlt> rambo3: interested*
[10:54] <mikebeecham> RatThing: ok..I will do that
[10:54] <rambo3> pie ?
[10:54] <MindSpark> rambo3, yes, but I can't startup, the system stops at fsck
[10:54] <MindSpark> rambo3, my question is how to set that from grub
[10:55] <rambo3> vlt, everyone of them
[10:56] <tntCry> this didnt work :( rm -rf ~/.xchat MindSpark
[10:56] <MindSpark> tntCry, try rm -rf /.xchat2/
[10:56] <MindSpark> woops, wait, sorry
[10:56] <MindSpark> tntCry, try rm -rf ~/.xchat2/
[10:57] <blackfox_> how to install game at wine?
[10:57] <blackfox_> i dont understand now ..
[10:57] <MindSpark> blackfox_, wine <file>
[10:57] <vlt> rambo3: "kernel: [17179569.184000] Linux version 2.6.15-29-k7 \n kernel: [17179569.184000] Warning only 4GB will be used. \n kernel: [17179569.184000] Use a PAE enabled kernel."
[10:58] <MindSpark> abdulla, looks like it worked this time, eh ?
[10:58] <tntCry> :D
[10:58] <tntCry> yes
[10:58] <MindSpark> ;)
[10:58] <tntCry> i want to keep this command for future sake
[10:58] <blackfox_> but that only run at c:\\windows\\system32\\install.exe
[10:58] <MindSpark> you don't need to "keep" it
[10:58] <tntCry> i type all the commands i learn in my tomboys notes
[10:58] <MindSpark> most configuration files are in the home directory under .<programname>
[10:59] <rambo3> vlt, then you have to build one your self
[10:59] <MindSpark> so xchat configs are in ~/.xchat2
[10:59] <MindSpark> ~ = home directory
[10:59] <Q_Continuum> Gutsy - suddenly my left speaker is dead.  (Same with headphones, so not a hardware issue, likely)  Fix besides reboot?
[11:00] <tntCry> btw MindSpark i find ubuntu easier then Kubuntu for getting a package
[11:00] <tntCry> i mean bythat , is when installing themes in ubuntu is easy but with kubuntu its abit complicated however you have many things you can do with a few mouse clicks..
[11:00] <tntCry> but kubuntu seems complicated tho..
[11:01] <blackfox_> my installer at /home/blackfox/.wine/drive_c/perfect/install.exe
[11:01] <blackfox_> what can i do ?
[11:01] <tntCry> ubuntu i had it customized in less then 2 minutes :) while with my families computer i ruined theyr Kubuntu ,, and the close minmize maximize and toolbar and the file view tools in firefox all look smallll like an ant
[11:02] <tntCry> MindSpark, look at my desktop for ubuntu http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/2/f_Screenshot2m_c82fb7b.png&srv=img27
[11:02] <_6StringKng_> what theme is that?
[11:02] <_6StringKng_> linsta?
[11:03] <tntCry> no
[11:03] <tntCry> meemox
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> ah
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> I haven't found a good theme yet
[11:03] <tntCry> i mean moomex
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> need to find a goo d looking blue one
[11:03] <ikonia> _6StringKng_: gome-look.org
[11:03] <tntCry> can we hack the kicker of gnome>?
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> I know
[11:03] <_6StringKng_> just havent found one I liek yet
[11:04] <tntCry> to make it customized a weird cool way example when clicking at it we see blood vesels and vains and a heart under the edge pumping
[11:04] <tntCry> _6StringKng_,
[11:04] <tntCry> when clickign on applications or places or system
[11:05] <_6StringKng_> uh, I dunno
[11:05] <bullgard4> What does '<process name> (stop) waiting' mean in the initctl output?
[11:05] <ikonia> !away >YanchoAWY
[11:05] <tntCry> believe me if gnome can do that ,.. i rate it for the best and quit reading about mac and windows
[11:05] <tntCry> but you get what i meant _6StringKng_
[11:05] <rambo3> bullgard4, fork
[11:05] <_6StringKng_> I believe so
[11:06] <bullgard4> rambo3: Can you elaborate.
[11:06] <tntCry> when click on Applications the color is diffrent blody from the side veins fall off a heart from the buttom in a 3d Look pumping waiting for you to finish what your theyr for
[11:06] <overlord> How do i change the defaukt
[11:06] <tntCry> _6StringKng_,
[11:06] <Lambros> network issue?
[11:06] <ikonia> overlord: default what ?
[11:06] <overlord> how do i change the default site in apache2
[11:06] <rambo3> bullgard4, no . you would need to learn how process functions. fork () , stop wait
[11:06] <ikonia> overlord: in what way, edit the content or change the location
[11:07] <stefano> how can i set up an ssh/sftp login that is restriced to only one directory and its subdirectories?
[11:07] <ikonia> stefano: chroot that users
[11:07] <overlord> ikonia: content of what? I've installed phpbb2, and i have got it to work. But it isn't the site that gets loaded when I open http://localhost/
[11:07] <jimjam> Are there any special User IDs?
[11:07] <jimjam> Do they start at 1000 arbitrarily?
[11:07] <stefano> ikonia, sorry i'm somewhat of a newbie, could you explain that further?
[11:08] <ikonia> overlord, ok so you want to change the directory of where the default site is looking ?
[11:08] <Varka> stefano, just create a normal useraccount and give it the rights for the desired folder only
[11:08] <ikonia> stefano have a read up on chroot, but basiclly its a "virtual" root file system in a directory that the user can't get out of
[11:08] <Extravert> hey guys
[11:08] <overlord> ikonia: yes..in a way. Basically I want to open /var/www/phpbb2/index.php
[11:09] <tntCry> ikonia, is theyr any way to change the kickerlook , i dont mean the tag . but when clicking forexample on Application or places or System .. the color theyr the background picture or have effects with it?
[11:09] <sumonoo> hello, does anybody knows how to turn the monitor on when logged through ssh, it goes automatically off after X minutes
[11:09] <Ein_> now I have the .RPM File type
[11:09] <stefano> thank you both, i'll look up chroot in the wiki
[11:09] <ikonia> stefano: eg: /usr/local/mydir chrooted would make / for the user bob point to /usr/local/mydir
[11:09] <Extravert> if you banned from a channel and you try to connect.  Does your nickname show?
[11:09] <Ein_> I can't extract it
[11:09] <ikonia> stefano: so they could never get out of / which is actually /usr/loca/lmydir
[11:09] <stefano> great :D exactly what i wanted
[11:09] <ikonia> overlord: httpd.conf change the htdocs variable
[11:09] <overlord> hmm
[11:09] <ikonia> Extravert: no
[11:09] <ikonia> Extravert: it stops you joining
[11:10] <_6StringKng_> heres my desktop btw tntCry
[11:10] <_6StringKng_> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8144/mydesktopbm6.jpg
[11:10] <ikonia> Ein_: its not wise to attempt to use the contents of an rpm on a debian system
[11:10] <Extravert> ikonia: thanks they banned the wrong person =P
[11:10] <tntCry> cool
[11:11] <overlord> ikonia: my httpd.conf is empty
[11:11] <ikonia> Ein_: a debian based system I should say
[11:11] <ikonia> overlord: as I recall its symlinks that points to the default site
[11:11] <tntCry> _6StringKng_, i think you can satisfy the look more aigh>?
[11:11] <sumonoo> when logged through ssh, how can i wake up monitor?
[11:11] <Ein_> but I don't debian sys
[11:11] <_6StringKng_> I'm trying
[11:12] <ikonia> Ein_ pardon ?
[11:12] <tntCry> _6StringKng_, why are you using Konversation but not Xchat?
[11:12] <ikonia> sumonoo can't really, ssh is not on /dev/console
[11:12] <ikonia> sumonoo: so events won't wake it
[11:12] <_6StringKng_> because I like Konversation more than Xchat
[11:12] <tntCry> hmm
[11:12] <Ein_> I mean... do I need debian OS to open it?
[11:13] <ikonia> Ein_: no, rpm is meant for redhat based systems
[11:13] <tntCry> ya what is rpm ikonia i have been wondering i have been downloading alot of them for i dont knwo what reason but non could be installed so i deleted all of it
[11:13] <shameless_> can anyone help me with setting up my bluetooth? i know i've got it on here, but for some reason i can't find the device itself
[11:14] <IanLiu88> !fixgrub
[11:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:14] <ikonia> tntCry rpm is "redhat package manager" packages, so they are software packages in the same way a .deb is a software package, but these are aimed at redhat systems
[11:14] <madera> Hello
[11:14] <ikonia> madera: hello
[11:14] <tntCry> damn theyr lucky
[11:14] <ikonia> tntCry:  ?
[11:14] <madera> I have a NTFS writable disk I want to check for errors... what utility or procedure should I use/do ?
[11:15] <ikonia> madera there isn't really a tool in linux as its a file system native to windows
[11:15] <tntCry> can rpm  be installed in ubuntu ikonia ?
[11:15] <madera> ok, I'll stick it into windows then
[11:15] <madera> thanks
[11:15] <ikonia> tntCry: it /can/ but it is VERY unwise
[11:16] <tntCry> i knew the answer will be a linux answer lo
[11:16] <cexx> why is it unwise, ikonia
[11:16] <ikonia> cexx: it is built against/for a different base system in a package format thats not native
[11:17] <cexx> understood.
[11:17] <ikonia> tntCry a linux answer ?
[11:17] <madera> ikonia: a bad quality answer
[11:17] <ikonia> madera: a bad quality answer ?
[11:17] <madera> ikonia: yeah, a linux answer
[11:17] <ikonia> madera: explain please.
[11:17] <madera> ikonia: hum, I'm afraid there is nothing to explain
[11:18] <ikonia> madera: I'm not sure what your saying by a bad quality answer ?
[11:18] <madera> ikonia: read more, it will sharpen you up! =o)
[11:18] <madera>  ikonia: I didn't say anything about an answer
[11:18] <ikonia> madera: I'm sharp enough thank you, I'm asking you to clarify your statment
[11:18] <ndlovu> how do you remove a symbolic link? Just 'rm <symlink>'? Or will that remove the target?
[11:18] <madera> ikonia: it's clear enough
[11:18] <ikonia> madera:  madera> ikonia: a bad quality answer
[11:18] <ikonia> madera: its not clear enough, define a bad quality answer, in terms of content or resolution ?
[11:19] <ikonia> ndlovu: correct, just rm it
[11:19] <tntCry> 1 day i hope ubuntu be something good , means if you have a tablet laptop the touch screen works without appointing the driver for the hardware and the bindings .. ect.. , * and to have a great package installer to install the .tar .zip files wisely like themes and kickers and iconsin a simple double click method * and have softwares that are .bin installed double click * and hopefully have msoofice 2007 work with wine , * and wine becomes more easier ..
[11:19] <tntCry> * and have finger print detections .. pen callibration perfecterizing .. * and smart speech detection and smart pen undersatnding .. and smart help assistant .. and funky themes in the theme list to choose once ubuntu is firstly installed.
[11:19] <madera> ikonia: and you think you're sharp
[11:19] <madera> bye bye
[11:19] <ndlovu> ikonia, tks
[11:20] <stefano> ikonia, i set up the chroot and it works, but i can't log in via ssh, because the chroot user just doesnt have it, how can i install it in the chroot?
[11:20] <shameless_> wait, tablet? i need some help with mine, you have any ideas?
[11:20] <tntCry> then ubuntu will be as perfect as Vista support
[11:20] <ikonia> stefano you need to install chroot onto the system
[11:20] <stefano> how do you mean, install? like a package?
[11:21] <ikonia> stefano correct
[11:21] <tntCry> shameless_, forget about it , i needed help of to work the touchscreen for 4months you cant ,. if you will you will need calibrations . then need scripts for ratations then you will get the headache trying to start doing all that
[11:21] <tntCry> stefano, appoint the mouse double click
[11:21] <shameless_> damn, guess i'll have to dual boot then
[11:21] <shameless_> cause i want linux, but i kinda need my tablet
[11:22] <stefano> ikonia, what's the package called? dchroot, dchroot-dsa or both?
[11:23] <ody> does ubuntu have a special tool to configure grub? Because it always ovewrites my menu.lst configuration everytime it installs a new kernel.
[11:24] <FallenHitokiri> ody: startupmanager
[11:24] <ody> thanks
[11:24] <ikonia> apologies I was on the phone
[11:24] <ikonia> stefano: did your question get an answer ?
[11:25] <stefano> ikonia, well kind of, but my chrooted user still can't log on
[11:25] <stefano> "Cannot execute /usr/local/sbin/chrlogin: No such file or directory"
[11:25] <FallenHitokiri> even if I didn't read the whole discussion - touchscreens works fine
[11:25] <ikonia> stefano: what command are you using to chroot him in ?
[11:25] <vermi> I was here earlier with a question about the resolution/refresh rate being out of my monitor's range during boot up, and someone recommended using usplash. Well, the out of rang problem was solved, but is there any way to make usplash more verbose?
[11:26] <stefano> i use a big fancy perlscript i found in the german ubuntu wiki
[11:26] <FallenHitokiri> vermi: yes grub or startupmanager
[11:26] <stefano> and i dont understand much of it
[11:26] <stefano> tbh
[11:26] <ikonia> vermi: why would using usplash fix your resoution
[11:26] <ikonia> stefano: ok - first thing to do is look in /usr/local/sbin/chrlogin - I don't think you'll find it there
[11:26] <ndlovu> hmm... I accidentally rm'd '/usr/lib/libxml.so.1' while uninstalling a canon cups printer - any idea what the file would be used for?
[11:26] <vermi> FallenHitokiri: just removing "quiet" should work, right?
[11:27] <stefano> ikonia, thats right
[11:27] <stefano> nothing in there
[11:27] <ikonia> ndlovu its an xml library thats pretty core
[11:27] <shameless_> tntCry: i've heard things about fingerprint scanners working, you worked with those any?
[11:27] <ikonia> stefano: the fact that its in /usr/local/sbin suggests its a custom build
[11:27] <AlexStacey> hi, i'm not sure which chanel to  ask this in but: the wireless network security settings have just been chnged in my house and i've got no idea how to change the configuration of my wireless card on my linux machine. can anyone point me in the right direction? cheers =]
[11:27] <vermi> and ikonia, i have no idea what was initially happening during system boot, but i don't have the issue using usplash
[11:28] <tntCry> shameless_, lets wait for hardy ubuntu 8 and wish all my wishes to work :)
[11:28] <stefano> ikonia, great i always wondered what the difference between sbin and bin was. :-) so, i suppose i could just copy the file from wherever it is to that directory, right?
[11:28] <ikonia> vermi thats very odd, I don't understand why changing to usplash would change the monitor resolution / refresh rate
[11:28] <ikonia> stefano: I would advise against that, but yes you could
[11:28] <tntCry> believe me after that ubuntu is another system in the world for the people it will be a competition for ubuntu against mac and windows :) i believe LINUX if they take this step they will win.
[11:28] <tntCry> brb guys .....
[11:28] <FallenHitokiri> vermi: yes
[11:28] <stefano> ikonia, why?
[11:28] <ndlovu> ikonia: know of any way to get it back?
[11:28] <shameless_> tntCry: i guess i'll just shrink my vista partition to a few gigs and primary boot to gutsy
[11:29] <vermi> Thanks, FallenHitokiri. i thought as much, but i wanted to make sure.
[11:29] <ikonia> stefano: 3 reasons. 1.) If that guide is pointing you at stuff that is not there - it is a bad guide that shouldn't be followed 2.) if your missing stuff, you may not be following the guide correctly, therefore its a bad guide 3.) using custom built package will break you package manager, moving them around may break application linking.
[11:29] <ikonia> ndlovu: you'll need to re-install the package it came in
[11:29] <FallenHitokiri> ikonia: maybe vga=$foo was not present in menu.lst before using usplash
[11:30] <ikonia> FallenHitokiri: thats possible, but that isn't actually anything to do with usplash.
[11:30] <stefano> ikonia, okay i will just read the big howto i have on that instead of using the script that. thanks for your time, i think i'll get it done :)
[11:30] <vermi> FallenHitokiri: you may be right; though I never actually looked at menu.lst to see before installin usplash; in fact, nobody even suggested that as an option
[11:30] <FallenHitokiri> ikonia: it does - if you install usplash vga= is set - if you don't know vga= using usplash solves this ;)
[11:31] <ikonia> FallenHitokiri: I see what you where saying, but its not actually anything to do with the usplash software, but what you are suggesting makes sense. I wonder if it was a server install initially
[11:32] <vermi> Anyway, thanks for the advice ikonia and FallenHitokiri. have a good day =)
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> vermi: look at this guide for framebufer resolutions: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> ikonia: isn't vga= set in a server installation?
[11:33] <ikonia> FallenHitokiri: I don't know from memory, but I can imagine it not
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> from time to time my apt-get update starts looking for a package type called "web" and I need to remove it manually from sources.lst
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> .list?
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> what's wgat
[11:33] <zombie_monkey> what's wgatwhat's that about?
[11:33] <bullgard4> What does '<process name> (stop) waiting' mean in the initctl output?
[11:34] <ikonia> bullgard4: it means that process is in a stopped state
[11:35] <bullgard4> ikonia: Why is this fact not expressed much simpler with '<process name> stopped'?
[11:36] <ikonia> bullgard4: its just 3 letters on the end, its expressed clearly enough
[11:36] <_blitz_> I have so many debis in a folder.there are packages and its dependancies.I was wondering whether i could change it to a repo temporarily.tired of double clicking
[11:36] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you for commenting.
[11:37] <ikonia> _blitz_: you can make your own repo, although its a reasonable ammount of work
[11:37] <zombie_monkey> for example "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted web"
[11:37] <zombie_monkey> this "web" entry appears from time to time, and I can't figure out why.
[11:38] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: its a repo by the looks of it, although one I'm not aware of
[11:38] <_blitz_> ikonia then do i have to upload the files
[11:38] <zombie_monkey> and it leads for example to "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[11:38] <ikonia> _blitz_: upload the files ? where, you can't if you've not got a repo
[11:38] <larson9999> well the story is that he didn't win.  it's not about him.  about the system.
[11:38] <mack_sim> so... upgrading to 7.10 crashes w/ a message about not being able to find a certain repository
[11:38] <mack_sim> what should I do?
[11:39] <zombie_monkey> ikonia: what could be puttign it there?
[11:39] <ikonia> mack_sim: look into the repo it can't find
[11:39] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: remove the "web" bit of the end of the line
[11:39] <selinuxium_> hi all, can anyone give me a hand getting my bluetooth pcmcia card wroking
[11:39] <mack_sim> ikonia: look and see what?
[11:39] <gvsa123> which application can i use to remove the audio from videos?
[11:40] <ikonia> mack_sim: at the repo it can't find
[11:40] <_blitz_> ikonia  what i need is that i have all the files in a folder and i need to install them at one go
[11:40] <mack_sim> ikonia: yes, look at it and see what exactly about it
[11:40] <mack_sim> ?
[11:40] <ikonia> mack_sim: why it can't be found
[11:40] <siccness> hey
[11:40] <mack_sim> how should <i know that?
[11:41] <siccness> im getting a: Floating point exception (core dumped) when trying to execute LyX
[11:41] <zombie_monkey> ikonia: I keep doing that and it keeps reappearing
[11:41] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: apt-get update
[11:41] <kakoonia> hey
[11:41] <zombie_monkey> yes, when I type "sudo apt-get update" it looks for that and it can't find it
[11:41] <mack_sim> ikonia: and what good does it do me?
[11:41] <_blitz_> ikonia :  what i need is that i have all the files in a folder and i need to install them at one go
[11:42] <mack_sim> to be more precise, what can I do to upgrade in spite of the repo being unavailable?
[11:42] <zombie_monkey> ikonia: the question is what script keeps putting that "web" entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:42] <ikonia> mack_sim: you can fix the upgrade being a problem
[11:42] <ikonia> zombie_monkey: thats a good question
[11:42] <mack_sim> ikonia: how?
[11:42] <ankka> hello, I started installing ubuntu-desktop, but for some reason it doesn't want to download gimp-data but stops there and doesn't go any further
[11:42] <ikonia> mack_sim: well, try to resolve it via dns, try to connect to it, etc
[11:42] <ndlovu> any idea how to manually change the URI of a printer? I'm not getting usb as an option from install or modify
[11:42] <kakoonia> i installed the latest Alsa-drivers and suddenly i cant hear any sound.. in Alsa-mixer its unmuted and on max volume. what could be the reason?
[11:43] <ikonia> kakoonia: how did you update alsa
[11:44] <kakoonia> ikonia: i downloaded alsa-drivers from alsa-project 1.0.15, configure | make | make install
[11:44] <gvsa123> hey... is there an application in the repos that can remove audio from a video?
[11:44] <mack_sim> ndlovu: re-state your issue
[11:44] <mack_sim> use more words
[11:44] <ikonia> kakoonia: thats not the best call, as now your package manager will be out of sync
[11:44] <ikonia> gvsa123: any of the dvd rippers can strip the audio into a seperate file
[11:45] <ndlovu> lsusb shows 'Bus 005 Device 004: ID 03f0:2c17 Hewlett-Packard' but cups says 'open device failed; will retry in 30 seconds...'
[11:45] <gvsa123> ikonia: it's a home made video though
[11:45] <kakoonia> ikonia : because i installed package thats out of the available package list?
[11:45] <ndlovu> according to cups, the uri is 'hp:/no_device_found'
[11:46] <mack_sim> ndlovu: that's a way fo saying "there ain't no printer anywhere in sight"
[11:47] <ndlovu> mack_sim, but autodetect shows HP LaserJet 1022, so it should be able to find it?
[11:47] <ankka> the installation just stalls at gimp-data
[11:47] <mack_sim> ndlovu: whose autodetect?
[11:48] <kakoonia> ikonia : because i installed package thats out of the available package list? and what should i do to fix it? should i make uninstall?
[11:48] <ndlovu> mack_sim, System > Administration > Printing in ubuntu
[11:49] <mack_sim> ah
[11:49] <MepT_Bblu> эй
[11:49] <mack_sim> so you have a usb printer?
[11:50] <ndlovu> mack_sim, yes. but looking at it again, it's not shown anymore... weird. lsusb also comes up empty now even though it's plugged in.
[11:50] <kst-> !window-manager
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window-manager - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <mack_sim> aha
[11:50] <kakoonia> !sound
[11:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:50] <mack_sim> ndlovu: do you have hplip installed?
[11:50] <mack_sim> (the hp printer drivers)
[11:50] <ndlovu> yup
[11:51] <kst-> how do I replace metacity with xfwm4 on gnome gutsy? when i use gconf-editor to set it in desktop > gnome > apps > window-manager it is reset to metacity after relogin..
[11:51] <ndlovu> mack_sim, I got it to print a test page earlier, but after checking the settings again it seemed to lose the connection somehow
[11:51] <mack_sim> you may have switche from raw to hp as a print proto
[11:52] <mack_sim> and the hp drivers aren't very smart
[11:52] <ndlovu> mack_sim, how would you do that?
[11:52] <mack_sim> nevermind
[11:52] <mack_sim> unplug the printer
[11:52] <mack_sim> plug it back in
[11:52] <mack_sim> check with dmesg to see if the system sees it
[11:52] <GniLoj> .G@'
[11:52] <MepT_Bblu> fu** inet
[11:52] <mack_sim> then go to the nice clicky and add new printer
[11:53] <GniLoj> greetings!
[11:53] <Xaraxoto> Йопт
[11:53] <GniLoj> aga
[11:53] <MepT_Bblu> pidarasy
[11:53] <GniLoj> fu. .... innet
[11:53] <BlackDiamonds> !MP3
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <Xaraxoto> Гнилой
[11:54] <GniLoj> казлы мля
[11:54] <ndlovu> mack_sim, tks, that seemed to do the trick somehow
[11:54] <dgjones> !english | GniLoj
[11:54] <ubotu> GniLoj: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:54] <GniLoj> вы шо уроды-
[11:54] <MepT_Bblu> give us OP status!
[11:55] <GniLoj> we want OP!'
[11:55] <GniLoj> know!
[11:55] <MepT_Bblu> op!
[11:55] <mack_sim> at some point, you will have a drop-down box with drivers to choose from
[11:55] <mack_sim> pick postscript for now
[11:55] <mack_sim> ah nvm
[11:56] <GniLoj> shurt up all!
[11:56] <MepT_Bblu> give op to my fat ass!
[11:56] <Gimpa> hey... im looking for a script that will restart firefox in a click... like bash script that will close all firefox windows and re run firefox... anyone can help?
[11:56] <mack_sim> hmm
[11:56] <GniLoj> we need OP!
[11:56] <cherva> Is there a way to change the font color of the menus (application,places,system)  and minimized windows ? In the Theme -> customize -> colors i change the text color in the windows too :(
[11:56] <Gimpa> hey... im looking for a script that will restart firefox in a click... like bash script that will close all firefox windows and re run firefox... anyone can help?
[11:56] <mack_sim> Gimpa: what do you need it for?
[11:57] <siccness> mack_sim: my guess is to kill firefox
[11:57] <Gimpa> yeah
[11:57] <Hobbsee> GniLoj: ?
[11:57] <Gimpa> restart it
[11:57] <mack_sim> siccness: my question was "why not kill it properly?"
[11:58] <siccness> Right, that came out a little different to what you actually asked.
[11:58] <Gimpa> cause i want to restart it sometimes cause its clears cookies and stuff
[11:58] <Gimpa> i want to make it on cron
[11:58] <Gimpa> daily at midnight restart
[11:59] <mack_sim> why would you want such a thing?
[11:59] <punzada> does anyone have the problem with firefox and xmms not liking to share the sound card in gutsy? :|
[11:59] <mack_sim> anyway, it's easy
[11:59] <mack_sim> punzada: you have trouble with the sound server
[11:59] <siccness> im with you now mack_sim, this sounds like an awfully stupid script :|
[11:59] <Gimpa> mack.. please help....
[12:00] <Gimpa> no its not i have pepole here that uses that computer
[12:00] <punzada> it's only those two apps, they seem to like to invalidate the other
[12:00] <Gimpa> and mess it up
[12:00] <punzada> make the other not realize the sound device is there
[12:00] <mack_sim> punzada: one of them is trying to access the soundcard directly
[12:01] <mack_sim> configure them to use arts, or whatever other sound server you're using
[12:01] <mack_sim> Gimpa: mess it up how?
[12:01] <punzada> lol ty
[12:01] <punzada> two seconds in the config
[12:01] <mack_sim> maybe you need to restrict their rights
[12:01] <bsh> hi
[12:01] <punzada> xmms was using oss instead of alsa
[12:01] <punzada> ;P
[12:01]  * punzada is slow
[12:01] <punzada> lol
[12:01] <mack_sim> :)
[12:02] <mack_sim> no you're not
[12:02] <mack_sim> sound system in linux is arcane
[12:02] <punzada> true
[12:02] <bsh> i have a problem. just reinstalled my server and since then there is this strange issue: when managing users and groups with the gui app, whenever i open properties of a group then close, the group list is multiplied
[12:02] <mack_sim> I have a problem too
[12:03] <mack_sim> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:03] <mack_sim> what can I do?
[12:03] <mack_sim> bsh: stop using the friggin' gui app
[12:03] <bsh> so after 4 changes i have 4-5 instances of each group. with the same ID however
[12:03] <mack_sim> or fix it
[12:03] <bsh> when editing the group file, it's ok
[12:03] <mack_sim> or complain to the devs, then stop using it
[12:04] <mack_sim> it's a piece of crap anyway. you're better served with just a text editor anyway
[12:04] <ikonia> mack_sim: do a wget on the file in the archive see if you can actually get it
[12:04] <mack_sim> gahh
[12:04] <siccness> anyone else here use LyX?
[12:05] <mack_sim> ikonia: works like a charm
[12:05] <mack_sim> siccness: <i do, rarely
[12:05] <siccness> mack_sim: have you got it installed on gusty?
[12:05] <mack_sim> siccness: no, gentoo
[12:05] <ikonia> mack_sim: ok, so the file is there and accessable, thats a good start
[12:06] <siccness> ah ok
[12:06] <mack_sim> why, siccness ?
[12:06] <siccness> getting core dump
[12:06] <siccness> wont load
[12:06] <siccness> gdb shows around QT libs
[12:06] <mack_sim> siccness: bad package
[12:07] <mack_sim> try getting it from upstream (devs)
[12:07] <mack_sim> prolly compiled against wrong version of qt libs
[12:07] <siccness> no bugs posted
[12:07] <mack_sim> heh
[12:07] <siccness> mack_sim: hmm
[12:07] <b4d> Hi, is there any way to change background in boot framebuffer?
[12:07] <mack_sim> lyx ain't exactly popular
[12:07] <ikonia> b4d: yes, its a reasonable ammount of work though
[12:08] <siccness> mack_sim: i dont see why not though
[12:08] <mack_sim> plus the kind of people using it are the bug-fixing, not the bug-posting type. as a rule
[12:08] <siccness> lol
[12:08] <b4d> ikonia: I would like to try but don't know where to look for tutorial or howto...
[12:08] <mack_sim> ikonia: ok, now what?
[12:08] <ikonia> b4d: look into usplash
[12:08] <b4d> ikonia: ty
[12:08] <ikonia> mack_sim: ok, I'd try to get it a few times, make sure say 9/10 you can get it, incase the server has an intermitant problem
[12:09] <mack_sim> and then?
[12:09] <ikonia> mack_sim: try unzipped in it, make sure the package is in the correct format
[12:09] <mack_sim> can't I just stick it somewhere where the god damn package manager will see it?
[12:09] <ikonia> mack_sim: clam down please.
[12:09] <ikonia> clam even
[12:09] <ikonia> calm
[12:09] <ikonia> silly fingers
[12:10] <mack_sim> unexpected EOF
[12:10] <ikonia> mack_sim: ahh so the package looks like it has a problem on uncompression
[12:10] <mack_sim> file's borken
[12:10] <mack_sim> ya
[12:10] <ikonia> mack_sim: there we go, just report it to the mirror maintainer
[12:10] <siccness> mack_sim: lyx worked for a friend
[12:10] <mack_sim> what mirror? it's the official US server
[12:10] <b4d> ikonia: nope, that's not what i'm looking for, I would like to change the background of text boot, like arch linux has.
[12:11] <h1st0> emerald-themes is another broken package
[12:11] <ikonia> mack_sim: ok, the server maintainer
[12:11] <mack_sim> will do
[12:11] <ikonia> b4d: as I recall thats a kernal patch
[12:11] <ikonia> b4d: but don't quite me on that
[12:11] <mack_sim> now, how do I fix my problem?
[12:11] <ikonia> mack_sim: point at another mirror ?
[12:11] <b4d> ikonia: okay, thanks for your help
[12:11] <mack_sim> b4d: there's documentation in the kernel about that
[12:11] <mack_sim> you need a working fbcon to do it
[12:12] <ikonia> mack_sim: is it the bootsplash patch (from memory)
[12:12] <mack_sim> ikonia: nope
[12:12] <ikonia> mack_sim: which patch is it ?
[12:13] <mack_sim> it's got to do with the fbcon
[12:13] <ikonia> mack_sim: no, but there is a kernel patch required for it
[12:13] <mack_sim> you can set a console background to whatever you like
[12:13] <ikonia> I'm querying the name of the patch
[12:13] <mack_sim> ah
[12:13] <zhanx> ok this might be the ong channel but hopefully someone can point me to the right now.. apple ipod itouch. does it work under ubuntu. before i dropp 300 on it
[12:13] <mack_sim> hold on
[12:13] <ikonia> I thought it was called from memory the bootsplash patch
[12:13] <ikonia> zhanx: no more/less than the other ipods
[12:14] <gideon> hello
[12:15] <zhanx> ikonia,  ie. the database is still broke so you cant update, or did someone find a fix for that
[12:15] <ikonia> zhanx: database ?
[12:15] <h1st0> mack_sim: fbcon is blacklisted I believe with gutsy for some wierd reason.
[12:15] <mack_sim> ikonia: usplash
[12:15] <h1st0> mack_sim: what was your problem?
[12:15] <ikonia> mack_sim: really, I didn't think usplash contained that code. Fair enough
[12:15] <mack_sim> h1st0: incompatible with nvidia drivers
[12:16] <mack_sim> it isn't compatible with just about any AGP-based drivers, actually
[12:16] <h1st0> mack_sim: what type of video card do you have?
[12:16] <mack_sim> most cards don't handle hot-switching from framebuffer too well
[12:17] <mack_sim> h1st0: GeForce 5800, I think
[12:17] <h1st0> mack_sim: they do if the proper module is loaded.
[12:17] <h1st0> mack_sim: I missed your problem if you look when I joined what is going on exactly?
[12:17] <mack_sim> not a problem for me :)
[12:18] <mack_sim> someone was asking about usplash
[12:18] <mack_sim> afaik, you need a framebuffer console for usplash
[12:19] <h1st0> mack_sim: I was just saying gutsy has some problems with framebuffer.  All the specific video card fb's are blacklisted and I even believe fbcon is blacklisted.
[12:19] <mack_sim> but no, my problem is much simpler: the official server is serving up a broken packages list
[12:19] <mack_sim> yes, that is correct
[12:19] <mack_sim> fbcon is going the way of the dodo, imnsho
[12:19] <mack_sim> and it's a shame
[12:19] <h1st0> mack_sim: what are you trying to install I just dist-upgraded with out problems
[12:20] <mack_sim> I'm trying to upgrade to 7.10
[12:20] <h1st0> Ahh from what version?
[12:20] <mack_sim> 7.04
[12:20] <wucheng> when my ubuntu boot,my second network adapter named sit0 can not be brought up, anyone can help me ?
[12:21] <h1st0> Should be working.  What package are you having issues with?
[12:21] <mack_sim> the package list :)
[12:21] <h1st0> wucheng: what kind of card is it?
[12:21] <h1st0> mack_sim: there isn't a problem right now with the package lists.
[12:21] <mack_sim> I can fetch it, but gunzip spits it out... unexpeted EOF
[12:21] <wucheng> i do not know , i do not know why it is named sit0 in system
[12:21] <Flynsarmy> Has anyone had an issue with ubuntu freezing after 5-10 mins of using Cisco VPN client?
[12:22] <Flynsarmy> it just completley freezes and the caps and scroll lock buttons start blinking
[12:22] <h1st0> mack_sim: I'm able to fetch them fine right now.
[12:23] <mack_sim> ya me too
[12:23] <h1st0> wucheng: lspci to see what the net adapters are.
[12:23] <mack_sim> try unzipping them
[12:23] <h1st0> mack_sim: it does unzip them.
[12:23] <mack_sim> not for me
[12:23] <mack_sim> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[12:23] <mack_sim> this one, to be exact
[12:23] <h1st0> mack_sim: Reading package lists... Done
[12:24] <h1st0> Anyone know how to use the scroll back in screen?
[12:24] <rarito> hi
[12:25] <mack_sim> h1st0: page up
[12:25] <kakoonia> yo.. did someone ever encounter a problem that you cant hear sound from the laptop speakers but when you plugin the sound blasters you can hear from both?
[12:26] <mack_sim> sound blasters?
[12:26] <ikonia> you beat me to it
[12:26] <kakoonia> when my sound speakers
[12:26] <jrib> h1st0: shift-page up?
[12:26] <mack_sim> what in the name of <moby is a soundblaster?
[12:26] <mack_sim> ikonia: :)
[12:26] <kakoonia> hehehe
[12:26] <kakoonia> what, no one is fromiliar with sound-blaster?
[12:27] <kakoonia> anyways i generally i ment sound-speakers
[12:27] <ikonia> kakoonia: on planet earth we call them "speakers"
[12:27] <Pici> ikonia: :D
[12:27] <rarito> i had installed ubuntu's distribution and then i installed fedora's distribution
[12:27] <ikonia> rarito: ok, so your currently running fedora
[12:27] <rarito> fedora used /boot partition of ubuntu
[12:28] <rarito> and now i want recover ubuntu
[12:28] <aladinsane> anybody else here running a ATI Radeao 7200? It doesnt seem like we have such a good choice regarding drivers in Ubuntu. Mine is working pretty good with the Mach 8 drivers Ubuntu chosed for me but 3D is out of the question. Anybody know a better solution?
[12:28] <kakoonia> im from the same planet last time i checked.. you got two or 10 eyes? cause i got 10
[12:28] <ikonia> rarito: then you must re-install ubuntu
[12:28] <jrib> h1st0: oh, I probably did something to make it work like that, never mind
[12:28] <kakoonia> well??!?!
[12:28] <mack_sim> well what?
[12:29] <kakoonia> yo.. did someone ever encounter a problem that you cant hear sound from the laptop speakers but when you plugin the speakers you can hear from both?
[12:29] <ikonia> kakoonia: yes, some hardware does do that and you have to mute teh internal speakers
[12:29] <ikonia> kakoonia: eg: plug headphones into a PC and it still comes out of the speakers
[12:29] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: yeah, my girlfriend's laptop does that
[12:29] <kakoonia> bahh.. the prob is i dont want to plugin anything to hear..
[12:30] <Rastafar> Õàé âñåì!
[12:30] <ikonia> kakoonia: disable the speakers then
[12:30] <ikonia> kakoonia: in alsa mixer
[12:30] <wucheng> h1st0,  which kind of net adapter would be recognized be sit? i remove it from the server and can not find any information except "Pulse h1012"
[12:30] <stefano> i keep getting this error: "/lib/libpthread.so.0: invalid ELF header" it is in a chroot. can anybody help?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> Rastafar: english only please
[12:30] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: wait, what?
[12:30] <ikonia> stefano what command ar eyou doing to get that error
[12:30] <stefano> ikonia, ls
[12:31] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: *nothing* is working with no plug in, but both the laptop and external speakers work when you plug the headphones in?
[12:31] <mack_sim> stefano: it's a broken lib
[12:31] <ikonia> stefano: what have you done ?
[12:31] <ikonia> stefano: you've changed your threading libary somehow, that will bork you whols system
[12:31] <gordonjcp> kakoonia: or, to put it another way, you have to plug headphones in to hear the laptop speakers?
[12:31] <ikonia> whole
[12:31] <mack_sim> chroots are so damn fragile
[12:31] <kakoonia> ok ok ok o ko --> when no speakers are connected to my laptop.. no sound output! when i plugin in external speakers i can hear from both! i dont want to plugin anything.. means i cant hear?
[12:31] <lucian> gordonjcp, his speakers aren't working until he plugs in headphones. in which case not only do his speakers work, his headphones work as well
[12:31] <gordonjcp> lucian: bit strange that
[12:31] <kakoonia> gordonjcp : yup
[12:31] <Rastafar> âûû
[12:32] <stefano> i was copying libs, a whole bunch because ls was giving me error that it couldnt find them, so i copied them, and it worked (meaning the lib in the error message changed to another one that it couldnt find) until this one
[12:32] <ikonia> stefano: re-install your system, you've just broke it
[12:32] <kakoonia> maybe its a hardware problem..
[12:32] <kakoonia> i dunno
[12:32] <ikonia> stefano: that guide you are following is either rubbish, or your not following it corectly
[12:32] <stefano> ikonia, it is just the chroot, everything else worked fine
[12:32] <mack_sim> stefano: that particular lib is broken
[12:32] <Pici> !ru | Rastafar
[12:32] <ubotu> Rastafar: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:32] <ikonia> stefano: oooh this is just in the chroot
[12:33] <mack_sim> a bad copy, prolly
[12:33] <mack_sim> get a new one
[12:33] <stefano> as i said i was copying a whole lot of libs from my /lib and /usr/lib to the chroots respective directories
[12:33] <mack_sim> yes yes yes
[12:34] <mack_sim> so what program says this lib is broken?
[12:34] <stefano> mack_sim, ls
[12:34] <ikonia> mack_sim: pretty much any program as its the threading library
[12:34] <h1st0> mack_sim: I'm not downloading from that repo.  Are you sure it exists?
[12:34] <stefano> i should now point out that i'm doing all this on a server which is not important for my productivity :-)
[12:35] <stefano> so that i dont appear completely stupid
[12:36] <aladinsane> Can it hurt my system if i have repositories from Feisty checked in my third-party software list, Im running Gutsy?
[12:37] <stefano> aladinsane, you could
[12:37] <h1st0> aladinsane: yes
[12:37] <ikonia> aladinsane: yes
[12:38] <stefano> ikonia, since i only want to creat this chroot for sftp access, isnt there a better way to do this?
[12:38] <komodo> I need to install support for the wireless card on a C2D macbook with a broken Ethernet connection
[12:38] <komodo> how would I go about that?
[12:38] <kakoonia> well, is there any suggestion about the sound problem? cause i looked for a way to solve it, but nothing came up.
[12:38] <aladinsane> Ok, its the medibuntu ones, maybe i could just change them from http://packages.medibuntu.org/ Feisty
[12:38] <aladinsane> to
[12:38] <aladinsane> http://packages.medibuntu.org/ Gutsy
[12:38] <aladinsane> Would that work?
[12:39] <h1st0> komodo: you could download the debs you need.
[12:39] <ikonia> stefano if it's just sftp just setup directory permissions correctly
[12:39] <IdleOne> aladinsane: yes
[12:39] <h1st0> !offline > komodo, komodo Read the private message from ubotu.
[12:39] <stefano> komodo, take a look at the ubuntuusers wiki for instructions, download everything you might need to download and burn it to a cd, or put it on a usb-stick, and go for it
[12:39] <amadeux> If some program is using a lot of CPU time, I can run top to see which one. But what if a program is accessing my hard drive a lot? That is happening right now, and I don't know which program. How can I find out?
[12:39] <h1st0> komodo: just see the directions from ubotu
[12:40] <stefano> ikonia, okay i will take a look a t the wiki, right after i removed the chroot stuff :-)
[12:40] <komodo> thanks
[12:41] <mack_sim> amadeux: there's ionice, ioset and...
[12:41] <stefano> komodo, i suppose you have a second computer that you can use troughout the process?
[12:41] <mack_sim> I dunno whassiscalled
[12:41] <komodo> stefano: no, I do not
[12:41] <komodo> stefano: unless you count the seperate Leopard partition already in place
[12:41] <mack_sim> there are three programs provided in a single package that deal with I/O priorities
[12:41] <stefano> komodo, oh than be sure not to forget anything, any you also better print out the howto youre using
[12:42] <h1st0> komodo: yeah that will work for the offline directions
[12:42] <h1st0> !offline > stefano, stefano Read the private message from ubotu.
[12:42] <Bacta> Hi can someone talk to me about getting OpenGL working, I want to use it as a lib to make games
[12:42]  * Rastafar ñëóøàåò Clint Mansell & Kronos Quartet - Winter: Lux Aeterna
[12:42] <h1st0> Bacta: what video card do you have?
[12:42] <amadeux> mack_sim, those don't seem to do what I want? I don't want to reschedule apps for use of I/O or something like that. I just want to see what app is going nuts and accessing my hard drive, or whether it is just swapping etc
[12:42] <aladinsane> IdleOne: ok thnx for the answer, but lets say that i already installed something from the feisty package on my gutsy distro, wouldn't changing the medibuntu from Feisty to Gutsy not mess with those installs (I dont know if i have installed anything from them but there's a chance)
[12:42] <ikonia> mack_sim: sysstat package
[12:42] <Bacta> i don't know and don't care
[12:42] <Bacta> I just want to be able to compile code examples!
[12:43] <stefano> h1st0, give it to komodo
[12:43] <h1st0> Bacta: well you can just install the libs you need.
[12:43] <IdleOne> aladinsane: if anything it will upgrade any fiesty packages to gutsy
[12:43] <amadeux> Bacta, what language?
[12:43] <ikonia> Bacta: which libraries do you want, with which bindings ?
[12:43] <Bacta> C
[12:43] <h1st0> stefano: I did I was just telling you about the trigger
[12:43] <Bacta> I want opengl
[12:43] <Bacta> should I be getting glut?
[12:43] <_blitz_> I changed the compiz-fusion settings(minimize,maximize etc).and now there are no effects at all.what to do>
[12:43] <ikonia> Bacta: glut is not opengl
[12:43] <stefano> i see
[12:43] <Bacta> what is opengl?
[12:43] <aladinsane> IdleOne: ok fantastic, tnx
[12:43] <Bacta> what package must I download to be able to compile code examples?
[12:43] <ikonia> Bacta: libgl ?
[12:44] <ikonia> Bacta: thats a touch question as it depends on what the requirments of the code are
[12:44] <Fethman> Does anyone else have lagging problems with a synaptic touchpad. I have an alienware are 51m notebook and for no apparent reasen the touch pad starts to lag for a minute from time to time and then gets normal again
[12:44] <Bacta> 2D
[12:44] <ikonia> Bacta: 2d is not a requirment
[12:44] <Ameng> hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[12:45] <Bacta> http://gpwiki.org/index.php/SDL:Tutorials:2D_Graphics
[12:45] <Fethman> It works fine with a usb mouse or under windows xp
[12:45] <stefano> how can i set a quota of say 1 GB for a directory (/var/www/someuser/)
[12:45] <ikonia> Bacta: I'm not going into the code, but that looks like it wants the SDL libs
[12:45] <ikonia> stefano: do you have file system quotas enabled ?
[12:45] <bkraptor> any way I can graphically see the speed of a transfer?
[12:45] <stefano> i suppose not, i'm using ext2
[12:46] <h1st0> bkraptor: transfer of what?
[12:46] <bkraptor> files
[12:46] <aladinsane> IdleOne: hmm, changed it to Gutsy but now i get an error message about Gutsy not having those medibuntu repos, Anybody else know anything about the medibuntu repositories and Gutsy?
[12:46] <Ameng> hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[12:46] <bkraptor> something like DUMeter or BWMeter from Windows
[12:46] <Pici> !medibuntu | aladinsane read this
[12:46] <ubotu> aladinsane read this: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:46] <h1st0> aladinsane: nope perhaps the midibuntu people may be able to help more.
[12:47] <stefano> ikonia, i guess i just write a script that checks the size and emails me if its above the limit, that'd be the easy and i could allow more than one gigabyte on special occasions
[12:47] <ikonia> stefano that sounds reasonable
[12:47] <h1st0> stefano: quotas are nice though then you wouldn't have to worry bout it.
[12:48] <nucc2> hey, how does one print to a pdf file?
[12:48] <deathchimp> So, my ATI X1300 Refuses to render textures in 3D games. The typical OpenGL errors such as blocky text and such. What Driver should I have installed?
[12:48] <stefano> ikonia, can you believe my ISP wants me to pay 290€ for a fix ip-adress? :-> they say i have to order the business package i'm a bit upset now
[12:48] <ikonia> stefano: I can believe that, that is not unreasonable
[12:48] <ycy> hi there
[12:49] <nucc2> deathchimp: I find xgl with fglrx makes a lot of strang things break
[12:49] <ycy> i accidentally deleted my ~/.themes
[12:49] <h1st0> stefano: there is posts on teh forums about enabling disk quotas for users.
[12:49] <ycy> i accidentally deleted my ~/.themes and now nautilus keeps 98.4% of the cpu. how can i fix this?
[12:49] <h1st0> stefano: just use dynamic dns
[12:49] <stefano> ikonia, well, i heard about sweden, that they get 100/100mbit connections for under 70€ a month...
[12:49] <deathchimp> nucc2: any suggestions (reminder: me=newb)
[12:49] <ikonia> stefano: your not in sweden
[12:49] <stefano> unfortunately not
[12:50] <ikonia> so how is that relvant
[12:50] <ikonia> stefano: sweden also has very high tax rates, do you want that too ?
[12:50] <nucc2> deathchimp: are you using desktop-effects?
[12:50] <deathchimp> yes
[12:50] <h1st0> stefano: sudo apt-get install quota
[12:50] <stefano> hey thanks h1st0
[12:50] <sasha_> hi
[12:50] <deathchimp> nucc2: yes
[12:50] <sasha_> where i can find support for kino
[12:51] <stefano> no ikonia, i am about to move to the netherlands anyways.
[12:51] <h1st0> sasha_: did you try googling for their web page?
[12:51] <stefano> by the way i am having trouble with dynamic dns since ever, i am certain i set it up correctly but i keep getting abuse-email
[12:51] <sasha_> i was find web page
[12:51] <ikonia> stefano: abuse email ?
[12:51] <sasha_> but it cant help me
[12:51] <h1st0> sasha_: I'm sure they would have links on their page
[12:51] <sasha_> w8 :D
[12:51] <stefano> ikonia, saying that my adress is being refreshed to often
[12:52] <ikonia> stefano: ah so the TTL is too low
[12:52] <ikonia> stefano: one of the prices of dynamic dns
[12:52] <nucc2> deathchimp: are you using proprietary drivers, and 'xgl'?
[12:52] <deathchimp> nucc2: right again
[12:52] <deathchimp> nucc2: I was just happy for the correct screen resolution
[12:52] <nucc2> deathchimp: I disabled desktop effects because things weren't working fine with ati's proprietary drivers
[12:53] <stefano> ikonia, i believe the program only refreshes when my ip has changed. isnt there a "manual" way to update the ip adress on a dynamic dns account? i have a script that uploads it on a webspace for now.
[12:53] <sasha_> only on their forum :S
[12:53] <nucc2> deathchimp: to disable them, uninstall xserver-xgl
[12:53] <sasha_> can someone help me with export video to DV cam
[12:53] <stefano> i should say it should refresh only when the ipa has changed, but apperantly thats not the case
[12:53] <deathchimp> nucc2: What are the chances that will kick me to the terminal
[12:54] <nucc2> deathchimp: zero. just use synaptic. uninstall and logout, and back in
[12:54] <deathchimp> nucc2: thanks, wish me luck
[12:54] <ikonia> stefano dynamic dns should not be used for email
[12:55] <stefano> uh
[12:55] <stefano> ikonia, i didnt say i was going to use it for email
[12:55] <ycy> how can i have all my gnome settings erased?
[12:55] <ikonia> stefano apologies, you said you kept getting abuse mails
[12:55] <h1st0> ycy: delete the .gnome folders in your ~
[12:55] <mack_sim> ycy: you sure you want that?
[12:56] <stefano> ikonia, i was getting emails from dyndns.org saying that i refresh my ip too often. i just installed this client, and let it do his job, and i ticked the little "only refresh when neccessary" in the ncurses script that set it up
[12:56] <ikonia> stefano again, thats one of the hassles of dynamic dns - if you update too often, it can cause problems for the hosters
[12:56] <jrib> stefano: what client?
[12:57] <stefano> ddclient i believe it was called
[12:57] <tntCry> back
[12:57] <ycy> mack_sim: yes, i've accidentally deleted ~/.themes and now nautilus keeps 98% cpu
[12:57] <MindSpark> stefano, ddclient can be set to update every 180 secs
[12:57] <MindSpark> you can use the interval you want
[12:57] <tntCry> how can i retrieve the logs of 2 hours back ikonia ?
[12:57] <dgjones> !logs | tntCry
[12:57] <ubotu> tntCry: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[12:58] <stefano> MindSpark, i didnt that,still got email. i want it to only run when neccessary, and it said it would do that but it didnt. anyways. i'm going to make some coffee now and try again afterwards. see you all later
[12:58] <stefano> didnt = did
[12:58] <ubun00b> aricz: du her?
[12:59] <tntCry> thanks dgjones but can i get my logs from my system any temperory copy that xcaht does?
[13:00] <Ameng> hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[13:00] <aladinsane> a repositories question again: Is it neccsary, a normal user to have those "Souce code" repositories in my Third-party software list?
[13:00] <jrib> aladinsane: only if you want the source code
[13:01] <rchovan> hi, I have problem to install grub on 2GB HDD, I have tried almost everything, LiveCD, alternate Rescue System, grub-isntall, grub , etc..
[13:01] <aladinsane> Why would i want that?
[13:01] <jrib> aladinsane: so you could read the source code, or edit the source code and recompile
[13:01] <dgjones> tntCry, if you've set xchat to record logs, go to Settings, Preferences and under Chatting, there is a tab for Logging, if you click "Open Data Folder" that will bring up any logs you've recorded
[13:01] <jscinoz> What happened to the package kdar?
[13:02] <christophe> #ubuntu.fr
[13:02] <christophe> oups
[13:04] <tntCry> im going to offtopic for an important speech go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <aladinsane> jrib: ok, so for a person like me who never does any programing, those source code repos are totally unneccessary then, or?
[13:04] <Chousuke_> yes
[13:04] <Chousuke_> well, most of the time
[13:04] <Chousuke_> most of the time they're not useful to programmer either :/
[13:05] <Chousuke_> +s
[13:05] <rchovan> hi, I have problem to install grub on 2GB HDD, I have tried almost everything, LiveCD, alternate Rescue System, grub-isntall, grub , etc..
[13:05] <kahrytan> aladinsane,  no
[13:05] <jrib> aladinsane: probably.  Would be easy enough to enable if you ever change your mind anyway
[13:05] <kahrytan> aladinsane,  may need some code for compiling a program
[13:06] <Chousuke_> kahrytan: you don't need the sources for that.
[13:06] <aladinsane> Ok, got three different answers there, I'll leave them checked then..
[13:06] <Chousuke_> kahrytan: I mean
[13:06] <kahrytan> Chousuke_,  confused -dev for source
[13:06] <Chousuke_> yeah
[13:08] <v1d4l0k4> I need check if a package is already installed. I'm using "dpkg -l | grep package_name", checking the length of return. It's the better way?
[13:09] <wols_> dpkg -l <pakcagename> |grep ^ii
[13:09] <Guillem_> I've trouble with nvidia-dynamic-twinview: metacity (or compiz) do not detect the outputs correctly, so panels span among screens and windows are maximized among screens as well...
[13:10] <v1d4l0k4> wols_: hmm, sounds good. thanks ;)
[13:10] <andreuu> help grub error 22 :(             fdisk -l  says this  /dev/hdc2   *       12495       14567    16651372+  83  Linux
[13:10] <rchovan> quit
[13:10] <rchovan> quit
[13:10] <andreuu> tried root (hd2,1)   but it says no partition
[13:10] <wols_> andreuu: how far do you get with grub? does the menu show?
[13:10] <andreuu> well im in live cd now
[13:10] <andreuu> no grub error 22 then crash at boot
[13:10] <wols_> andreuu: that doesn't answer my question
[13:10] <andreuu> grub installed itself on hda1,
[13:11] <andreuu> in livecd i type root (hd2,1)   in sudo grub
[13:11] <wols_> andreuu: where is your /boot/grub directory?
[13:11] <andreuu> grub loads in live
[13:11] <wols_> andreuu: either answer what I ask or ask someone else for help
[13:11] <andreuu> im not sure, grub installed itself to hda1, i wanted to
[13:12] <andreuu> sorry what is your question again plz?
[13:12] <andreuu> i wanted it to install to hdc1
[13:12] <andreuu> not hda1 is hda2 for some reason and grub gives error 22
[13:13] <andreuu> i dont get a menu in grub its command line
[13:13] <andreuu> lol someone else plz ?
[13:14] <stefano> MindSpark, you said dyndns could be set up to refresh every 180 seconds. is that okay with dyndns.org? do they alow you to refresh so often?
[13:14] <andreuu> plz help ubuntu installed the mbr or something to hda1, linux is on hdc2 and now i get Grub    error 22
[13:15] <andreuu> i want to put a boot sector on hdc and boot from that in bios
[13:16] <andreuu> they say to type root (hd2,1) for hdc2 ?
[13:16] <ubun00b> could someone test my ssh-connection? (ip: 84.48.58.62)
[13:16] <ubun00b> user: toresn
[13:16] <wols_> andreuu: how many harddisks do you have? hda and hdc only?
[13:17] <andreuu> but it says no partition, i imagine my /boot/grub is on hdc2
[13:17] <^0uTLaW^> i need free shell to run psybnc ? can anybody help me ?
[13:17] <Pici> ^0uTLaW^: This is a support channel, please do not ask for free shells here.
[13:17] <mack_sim> andreuu: hdc2 would be root (2,1) in grubspeak, yes
[13:17] <andreuu> um plz wait wols
[13:17] <Nosnik> ubun00b: no response
[13:17] <mack_sim> then say boot
[13:17] <wols_> mack_sim: no it wouldn't if there are only 2 harddisks in the system
[13:18] <IdleOne> ubun00b: no response here either
[13:18] <andreuu> hdb hdc hdd and sda1
[13:18] <Woutifier> Hey
[13:18] <mack_sim> haha
[13:18] <mack_sim> then it's 1,1
[13:18] <andreuu> hdc ?
[13:18] <Woutifier> I have a problem with my graphics, after a while my windows appear black
[13:18] <wols_> andreuu: you just said there was hda? so what is it? please be consistent
[13:19] <mack_sim> no, hdc2
[13:19] <wols_> Woutifier: is it maybe overheating?
[13:19] <Woutifier> nah
[13:19] <Woutifier> I can just ctrl + alt + backspace
[13:19] <Woutifier> and it just works again
[13:19] <andreuu> to boot ubunto i had to make bios boot from hda
[13:19] <andreuu> but its installed on hdc
[13:19] <Woutifier> according to the forums it has something to do with the video memory
[13:19] <Woutifier> but I didn't find a solution for the problem
[13:19] <andreuu> if i boot from hdc nothing happens but hda worked now hda doesnt work and error 22
[13:19] <wols_> andreuu: answer my questions please
[13:20] <wols_> andreuu: if it worked, what did you change since then?
[13:20] <andreuu> nothing
[13:20] <andreuu> i changed it to boot from a diff hd in bios
[13:20] <andreuu> and now hda is showing as hdb
[13:20] <ikonia> andreuu: so you DID change things
[13:21] <mavi-> changing stuff in bios might affect drive letters yes
[13:21] <andreuu> yes but when i changed it back it broke
[13:21] <andreuu> anyway hda is now showing as hdb in bios
[13:21] <andreuu> didnt switch cables or anything
[13:21] <ikonia> andreuu: that sort of thing doesn't happen
[13:21] <ikonia> andreuu:  you've changed things
[13:21] <komodo> h1st0: I need the gutsy version of the amd64 build-essential deb.  The site you referred me to doesnt have gutsy.  Where else can I get deb files from?
[13:22] <andreuu> i rebooted, sound didnt work in my game
[13:22] <andreuu> rebooted again and it stopped altogether
[13:22] <ikonia> komodo: there should be a gutsy release
[13:22] <Pici> komodo: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <Woutifier> is there another ubuntu channel? This one is too crowded for effective troubleshooting
[13:22] <ikonia> Woutifier: only loco channels
[13:22] <ubun00b> Nosnik: IdleOne:  ...and now?
[13:23] <wols_> komodo: packages.ubuntu.com
[13:23] <andreuu> fdisk -l  says this  /dev/hdc2   *       12495       14567    16651372+  83  Linux
[13:23] <andreuu> and grub says this root (hd2,1)Error 22: No such partition
[13:23] <jrib> !who | Woutifier, just make sure you do this:
[13:23] <ubotu> Woutifier, just make sure you do this:: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[13:23] <ikonia> andreuu: thats because hd2 is the THIRD disk
[13:23] <IdleOne> ubun00b: still nothing
[13:23] <ubun00b> dmn
[13:23] <ubun00b> damn
[13:23] <andreuu> hdc is the linux partition
[13:23] <wols_> andreuu: for the last time: how many harddisks. ALL of them please
[13:23] <komodo> hmm, very useful resource, thanks
[13:23] <andreuu> linux disk
[13:23] <jrib> Woutifier: what version of ubuntu?  and what effects are you using?
[13:23] <IdleOne> ubun00b: language please
[13:23] <andreuu> hdb hdc hdd and sda1
[13:23] <ikonia> andreuu: hdb in linux is hd1 in grub
[13:24] <andreuu> so hdc would be hd2
[13:24] <Woutifier> jrib: I'm using gutsy, and full effects with compiz
[13:24] <ubun00b> IdleOne: sorry, i'm very frustrated atm :)
[13:24] <andreuu> root (hd2,1)Error 22: No such partition
[13:24] <ikonia> andreuu: do you want me to say it again for you, hdb is hd1 in grub
[13:24] <wols_> andreuu: it doesn't matter what is hdc or not. grub sees NO hdc
[13:24] <jrib> Woutifier: it's a compiz-related bug.  See if #compiz-fusion knows of a workaround
[13:24] <wols_> ikonia: only if hdb1 exists
[13:24] <IdleOne> ubun00b: understandable but it does not help to curse and is rude. you are intelligent enough to find better ways of expressing your emotions :)
[13:24] <ikonia> wols_: of course
[13:25] <andreuu> i want to boot from hdc
[13:25] <andreuu> in bios
[13:25] <ikonia> andreuu: then change the bios to boot from the correct disk
[13:25]  * wols_ puts andreuu on ignore
[13:25] <Woutifier> jrib: okay thanks!
[13:25] <andreuu> if anyway can help me write a boot sector to that it would be great
[13:25] <ikonia> andreuu: your not understand this at all
[13:25] <ikonia> !grub >andreuu
[13:25] <ikonia> andreuu: read the link from ubotu
[13:26] <andreuu> i answered your questions and you ignore and abuse me
[13:26] <ikonia> andreuu: no-one is abusing you
[13:26] <IdleOne> andreuu: when asking for help it is important that you take the advice of the person helping. insisting on doing things the way you want only makes it harder for the helper to help you
[13:26] <andreuu> i understand it must get frustrating in here plz be patient with me
[13:27] <wols_> andreuu: you lied
[13:27] <andreuu> where did i lie ?
[13:27] <Viaken> Is there a way to reinstall all the packages on my system?
[13:27] <mavi-> andreuu: try removing all disks except the one you want to boot from
[13:27] <andreuu> you are calling me a liar now lol
[13:27] <ubun00b> IdleOne: is it possible for me to test this connection myself, by 'ssh user@my-ip-address' ?
[13:27] <Creationist> I installed ubuntustudio-desktop and when I rebooted, no users appear in the GDM face browser, though I can still login manually.  What gives?
[13:27] <ubun00b> IdleOne: so i don't have to bother you guys each time i need to test it
[13:28] <andreuu> thanks for your help ;)
[13:28] <wols_> < andreuu> grub installed itself on hda1 < wols_> andreuu: how many harddisks do you have? < andreuu> hdb hdc hdd and sda1
[13:28] <Viaken> Because my alternative is to install Fiesty, put a hold on the kernel image, upgrade to Gutsy, reinstall all the software I had on there, recompile my audio drivers, and move my /home backup back...
[13:28] <ikonia> Creationist: thats just a gnome theme option
[13:28] <IdleOne> ubun00b: that might work but you wouldnt know if anybody outside your network can connect. have you open ports on your router?
[13:28] <andreuu> thats straight from fdisk -l
[13:28] <ikonia> andreuu: lets cut to the chase. Forget everything. Put the disks in the order you want in the bios, and leave it alone. Then we can help you configure grub
[13:28] <ubun00b> IdleOne: that's what i'm working on... opening port 22 on my router
[13:29] <andreuu> i have ikonia
[13:29] <MindSpark> stefano, sorry, was away. Yes I had an update of 180 secs with dyndns.org
[13:29] <ikonia> andreuu: right so which disk do you want to install grub on
[13:29] <IdleOne> ubun00b: get that port open and then let me know when you got it I will test with you
[13:29] <andreuu> hdc first its an 80g
[13:29] <andreuu> hdc
[13:29] <ubun00b> IdleOne: oki
[13:29] <andreuu> no 120g lol
[13:29] <ikonia> andreuu: I'm not laughing
[13:29] <Roy_M> Hi, does anyone here have a ATI 3800 working in linux?
[13:29] <andreuu> k
[13:29] <wols_> Viaken: what is the problem?
[13:30] <stefano> MindSpark, i just read on their website "the ip adress should only be updated when it's changed [...] everything else is abuse"
[13:30] <Creationist> ikonia: Ah, I see it changed the gdm from "Theme with face browser" to "theme".  But the strange thing is that it still showed the box where the usernames were held, it was just empty :)
[13:30] <ikonia> Creationist: thats just a theme option
[13:30] <IdleOne> !hardware | Roy_M check the list to see if it is supported
[13:30] <ubotu> Roy_M check the list to see if it is supported: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[13:30] <Roy_M> thanks IdleOne
[13:31] <stefano> MindSpark, i just installed inadyn, it seems pretty lightweight and easy, i will just set a cronjob for every one minute and hope that it checks by itself if the adress has changed or not
[13:31] <andreuu> ok ill unplug the hd's I dont want cause then hopefully i wont kill anything
[13:31] <MindSpark> stefano, these might be new policies. But this is also doable. ddclient stores the last ip in it's cache. You can make it check with your router to see if it has changed or not, and update accordingly
[13:32] <Stormx2`> I'm going to do a fresh install of ubuntu, as gutsy has gotten pretty slow as of late. Any suggestions on what I should back, except for /home?
[13:32] <stefano> MindSpark, ddclient hasnt worked for me
[13:32] <stefano> tried several times
[13:32] <andreuu> only really wanted to verify that (hd2,1) is hdc2
[13:32] <ikonia> Stormx2`: nothing else
[13:32] <MindSpark> stefano, you have a couple of options to do that. Maybe you had your client set to check your ip using dyndns itself. While you could do it with the router
[13:32] <Viaken> wols_: A little filesystem corruption fun, then fsck.jfs decided /usr/lib was unrecoverable and removed it.
[13:32] <andreuu> perhaps it wants to write the boot sector to hdc1
[13:32] <andreuu> mmm
[13:33] <wols_> Viaken: can't you install gutsy and then install whatever special krenel you want?
[13:33] <stefano> MindSpark, i have a wrt54g, i suppose it could do that but right now it's broken. i'm going to return it today if i find the reciep :)
[13:33] <stefano> good idea
[13:33] <andreuu> i answered all your questions zomg guys take a break
[13:33] <Xaosratt> Anyone here familiar with a Webmin+Apache+Awstats setup on ubuntu 7.10?
[13:33] <andreuu> thx hf
[13:33] <ikonia> Xaosratt: webmin is dead in ubuntu
[13:33] <andreuu> do it tomorrow windows still works ....
[13:33] <stefano> Xaosratt, i know that webmis is not to be used anymore
[13:33] <MindSpark> stefano, alright, sorry, I've only worked with ddclient and that was already some time ago.
[13:33] <xcasex> Xaosratt: webmin isnt used by anyone anymore.
[13:33] <xcasex> Xaosratt: what do you need to have done?
[13:34] <muhadi> hello
[13:34] <stefano> MindSpark, thank you for your help anyways, i'll tell you if it worked in two days or so
[13:34] <MindSpark> stefano, great :)
[13:35] <Viaken> wols_: It's not in the repos anymore. My laptop hard locks with 2.6.22-14, but is fine with 2.6.22-11. :\
[13:35] <Viaken> I've filed a bug report.
[13:35] <Xaosratt> xcasex: why is it not used anymore? It seems to be very popular? As for what I need, it apears that the default apache log output is different when configured by webmin in Ubuntu, its causeing some issues with Awstats not getting all available data (ie, no OS or browser data is collected, but the rest is)
[13:35] <stefano> Xaosratt, you should check out lighttpd (pronounced "lighty")
[13:35] <ikonia> Xaosratt: you need to change the log format to combined, but be aware that webmin is dead
[13:35] <carnelai1> I can't record using internal or external mic how can i check if the mics are detected
[13:35] <wols_> Xaosratt: security issues and support issues
[13:36] <Xaosratt> Interesting, would have been nice to know before my server had been online for a month
[13:36] <ikonia> Xaosratt: your responsability to check on software before installing it
[13:36] <Xaosratt> Any site that reffernces these security and support issues?
[13:36] <shameless_> i'm booted to linux on a flash drive right now, is there any way i can back up all the settings i've set before i install on a partition? or should i just not worry about it an reset everything
[13:36] <xcasex> Xaosratt: research research research, is your new litany :)
[13:36] <ikonia> Xaosratt: all over the interent
[13:36] <xcasex> Xaosratt: securityfocus.com
[13:37] <shameless_> and somehow i managed to marco over my 'd' key, so now i have to paste it in if i want to use it
[13:39] <Viaken> Let's try this. How do you connect to a WPA2 wireless network from the command line? :P
[13:39] <Woutifier> Hmm, how can I start compiz with different command line options?
[13:40] <_blitz_> when i click bittorent ,it asks for a bittorent meta file.anyone with some experience on this?
[13:42] <ndlovu> hmm... I'm getting about 50 lines of this in dmesg, should I be worried? 'drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: nonzero read/write bulk status received: -71'
[13:42] <Matrosh> Hi I have a problem i am using HP 530 and ubuntu but sound dont work i tried hing helped can anyone help me pls i am new to linuxto set sound but not
[13:42] <mavi-> ndlovu: do you have an usb connected device that works weird?
[13:43] <wols_> new to the english language too I guess
[13:43] <wols_> Matrosh: how about taking a DEEEP breath, think what you want to say and then say it coherently
[13:43] <IdleOne> wols_: no need to be insulting
[13:43] <ndlovu> mavi-, it's a printer that seems to work fine sometimes, and other times it hangs until I switch it off and on again
[13:43] <thor> wols_   let's hear your Inuktitut
[13:43] <riotkittie> wols_: no need to be nasty
[13:43] <mavi-> ndlovu: thats probably it
[13:43] <Woutifier> Hmm, how can I start compiz with different command line options?, In other words which file starts compiz
[13:43] <wols_> this is not an inuit channel, is this?
[13:43] <mavi-> ndlovu: try google the error message
[13:43] <wols_> english isn't my first language either
[13:44] <ndlovu> mavi-, I'll see what I can find
[13:44] <shameless_> how can i reset the stupid thing i did by macroing over the 'd' key?
[13:45] <IdleOne> wols_: then you should understand better then others how difficult english is to learn. be patient and polite if you cant then you should not be in here trying to help people
[13:45] <Xaosratt> ikonia: Ok, Webmins issues aside for the moment, apache logformat is "LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined". What exactly is not right with this to be causing Awstats to only accept "Logformat=4", rather than the 1 all the help files say it should be out of the box with apache2?
[13:45] <xcasex> tssk. we're all debian users, we were born being arrogant sons of bi...
[13:45] <Matrosh> Hm my usb devices works well , only sound doesnt work.I downloaded codecs nothing changed.
[13:46] <xcasex> Matrosh: do you know how to start up synaptic?
[13:46] <Matrosh> i downloaded Mplayer(friend adviced it to me that it uses own codecs)
[13:46] <riotkittie> xcasex: i'd venture to say no, we're not all debian users :P
[13:46] <wols_> xcasex: you should know that in here we aren't debian users...
[13:46] <xcasex> riotkittie: then you're diluted :p
[13:46] <xcasex> wols_ hey i still consider myself a SLS user :p
[13:46] <ntbnnt> ubuntu is not debian
[13:47] <xcasex> just like gentoo isnt LFS :p
[13:47] <wols_> I doubt you can still find SLS anywhere. not to mention it wouldn't run on your hardware unless you have a 386sx tucked away somewhere
[13:47] <xcasex> wols_: tssk.
[13:47] <xcasex> anyway, coffee break!
[13:47] <Matrosh> yes i know how to start synaptic
[13:48] <wols_> Matrosh: what do you mean with usb devuces works well only sound doesn't work?
[13:48] <wols_> is your soundcard working or not?
[13:49] <wols_> what soundfiles are you trying to play?
[13:49] <lacuce> hello all
[13:49] <ronnie> HI~
[13:49] <Matrosh> soundcard is working correctly on WinXP which i am using on this notebook too
[13:49] <IdleOne> !hi | lacuce
[13:49] <ubotu> lacuce: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:50] <lacuce> can anyone tell me how to change the network device name from eth2 to eth0?
[13:51] <stefano> lacuce, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 (under part 2 dapper drake)
[13:51] <wols_> lacuce: /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
[13:51] <lacuce> stefano, thanks, i'll check it out
[13:52] <lacuce> wols, thanks, i'll look at it
[13:54] <Bonster> any alert reminder program ?
[13:54] <genii> teatime?
[13:54] <Bonster> let me check that out
[13:55] <sam_> Hi
[13:55] <sam_> I've got a question
[13:55] <jimmacdonald> Hello
[13:55] <Mortice> !ask | sam_
[13:55] <ubotu> sam_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:56] <sam_> Why does the route command waits a couple of secs before showing the default gw?
[13:56] <IdleOne> must be how long it takes for the command to search and report the output
[13:56] <sam_> hmmm
[13:56] <IdleOne> couple of seconds to long to wait?
[13:57] <sam_> I was thinking that it could mean there could be some kind of problem with the network setup
[13:58] <lacuce> wols_, thanks, the device name is now changed to eth0
[13:59] <IdleOne> the only problem I find with linux distros is that everybody is always looking for bugs. in windows if something takes 2 seconds you dont see 1500 users join a channel to ask about it
[13:59] <wols_> windows users don't use irc
[13:59] <IdleOne> wols_: sure they do
[13:59] <IdleOne> but this is offtopic
[13:59] <IdleOne> sorry
[14:00] <sam_> Well
[14:00] <sybariten> i'm starting up ubuntu from a magazine cover disc on my office machine. Surely i should be able to see the harddrive in one way or another?
[14:00] <wols_> and people don#t look for bugs. it's just that in linux you still ahve to do a lot of "manual" work, while on windows all vendors makre sure you only have to click on setup.exe, next,next,next,finish
[14:00] <sam_> I'm sorry, but route is a simple command
[14:00] <sybariten> i do df -h and all i see are things called tmpfs, varrun, udev and such
[14:00] <sam_> and I'd hope it would just give me it's current setup
[14:00] <wols_> if that wizard doesn't work it's of course unsolvable but that's why lots of people are paid to make sure it does work
[14:00] <sybariten> i was expecting some /dev drive or so
[14:00] <Matrosh> So please can anyone help me with my sound problem? I am using notebook HP530 i installed ubuntu and sound doesn't work i've been trying to open mp3 or avi files also starting sound doesnt play :X
[14:00] <wols_> sybariten: you should
[14:01] <sybariten> hm
[14:01] <sam_> But I'll dig into its source to try to find why the hell it takes a couple of seconds to  do that
[14:01] <wols_> sybariten: what disk controller?
[14:01] <sybariten> this is a red hat machine by the way, so the drive could be ext2 or ext3 or so
[14:01] <sybariten> wols_: hm. sorry man... what is? this could be a scsi system
[14:01] <IdleOne> Matrosh: have you installed w32codecs ?
[14:02] <sybariten> i looked into /etc/fstab to see if anything had been automatically added there
[14:02] <sybariten> but nothing exciting there
[14:02] <wols_> look at lspci output instead
[14:03] <sceo> is anyone familiar with the zd1211rw driver?  does it support SMP or do I NEED  the vendor-based community driver for that?
[14:03] <dgjones> sybariten, the hard drive may not have been automatically mounted, possibly you'll have to look into mounting it manually before you get access to it
[14:03] <Matrosh> idleOne : nope i am idiot i know i am new in that can you play help me with it where i can download it ? easily with dowloading program or from some special page ?
[14:03] <sybariten> dgjones: yeah but still... as long as there is a boot-able HD in the machine, shouldnt it be visible with df -h?
[14:04] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[14:04] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[14:04] <sybariten> i mean, sure, i may miss it but i generally tend to see what the drives are
[14:05] <Bonster> any good Alert software?
[14:05] <IdleOne> alert software?
[14:05] <Bonster> or reminder
[14:05] <Bonster> software
[14:05] <sybariten> Bonster: you could check freshmeat for "pim"
[14:05] <keo92> Hi all !
[14:05] <dgjones> sybariten, not sure, i've never needed to use the df command, i don't know whether it will show unmounted drives
[14:06] <ShredZ> I can't compile these vmware kernel modules on feisty... wth not !?
[14:06] <keo92> How could it be possible that i can't find my libnss-ldap.conf after installed the libnss-ldap package ?
[14:06] <wols_> ShredZ: do you think we are psychic?
[14:06] <keo92> For information, i'm running on Gutsy !
[14:06] <ShredZ> wols_, no but you might know why stock ubuntu kernel headers don't compile with vmware modules ?
[14:06] <sybariten> hey, i found
[14:06] <sybariten> it
[14:06] <sybariten> i think
[14:06] <wols_> ShredZ: there are error messages
[14:07] <sybariten> i remember now, sudo fdisk -l is the thing i generally use, not df -h .... and i see a /dev/sda1 and a /dev/sda2
[14:07] <sybariten> Linux LVM, what does that mean?
[14:07] <wols_> logical volume manager
[14:07] <wols_> !lvm
[14:07] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[14:07] <sam_> Just to let you know I've answered my own question
[14:08] <sybariten> ok ... and what does it "mean to me" in this case? one partition is of id 83, looks smaller, the other is of id 8e, thats the LVM one, looks bigger
[14:08] <sam_> If your route takes a couple of seconds to display the current setup
[14:08] <sam_> you have a problem with your resolv.conf
[14:08] <sam_> :p
[14:08] <Rickk> hi, is it possible to prevent users from seeing others processes with top and ps, how so?
[14:08] <wols_> sam_: what problem was it?
[14:08] <ShredZ> wols_, http://pastebin.org/10298
[14:09] <sam_> route was taking a couple of seconds to display the default gw
[14:09] <krim> If I press Clear in Mplayers equalizer the colors get all screwed, anyone know how to set them back to "default"?
[14:09] <wols_> ShredZ: you probably need the any-to-any patch for vmware
[14:10] <OroMaster> When I boot, my network interfaces are all screwed up: lo is missing entirely and eth0 is not configured for the static IPv4 address I assigned it.  I can fix it with "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; sudo ifconfig lo up" once I have logged in, but I would like it to start up correctly on boot.
[14:10] <wols_> sam_: I meant, what was the problem in your resolv.conf?
[14:10] <chazco> hi
[14:10] <chazco> Anyone able to tell me how to bypass fsck at startup?
[14:10] <h1st0> Rickk: probably by changing the groups they belong to.
[14:10] <LjL> !fsck > chazco    (chazco, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:11] <sam_> I had old nameservers, that were a couple of thousand miles apart from my current network :/
[14:11] <h1st0> Rickk: did you try searching the forums?
[14:11] <sam_> the lag was due to the time it tokk to perform a nslookup
[14:11] <chazco> LjL - so theres no way to bypass it when it happens though? I'm using a laptop, and it can be annoying when it decides to fsck 120GB filesystem on battery before a presentation
[14:12] <wols_> chazco: tune2fs
[14:12] <LjL> chazco: no, when it starts it must be left running, otherwise it may *break* the filesystem
[14:12] <chazco> Ah typical :( Makes my laptop impractical really
[14:12] <toresn> IdleOne: could you try now? toresn.dyndns.org
[14:12] <LjL> chazco: well, just tell it to never fsck at all, and remember to do it manually once in a while
[14:12] <wols_> chazco: just power down your lappie cleanly and it won't happen
[14:13] <LjL> that too
[14:13] <chazco> It does it every 30 or so boots wols_
[14:13] <chazco> But it seems to always be the one when i dont want it to :D
[14:13] <krim> LjL: I used to press ctrl+alt+del when it started checking the disk, never had any problems but I guess that's not recommended :D
[14:13] <wols_> that you can change by tune2fs as I said
[14:13] <AssassiN> do enyone know were the hell is Etapien
[14:14] <chazco> I guess... but disabling it altogether isnt the best solution
[14:14] <ShredZ> thanks wols_ , that patch seems to have done it alright
[14:14] <krim> chazco: I remember seeing some guide that explained how to stop it but I can't remember how it was done or where it was. Can't be that hard to find with google though.
[14:15] <krim> Can anyone give me their defaults for video in Mplayers equalizer? I've messed up my settings and don't know how to get them back to default.
[14:15] <LjL> chazco, a quick look at the relevant /etc/init.d scripts seems to tell me that fsck is not run when on battery power
[14:15] <chazco> hmm... it has definatly done it before
[14:15] <OroMaster> The only thing that is different from my previous install on this machine is that / is on /dev/md0 and /var symlinks to a directory on /dev/md1 (which is automounted to /drives/mirror).
[14:15] <smookerPC1> how do i register my nick ?
[14:15] <Mortice> !register | smookerPC1
[14:15] <ubotu> smookerPC1: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[14:16] <chazco> Perhaps it changed between 7.04 & 7.10... a lot of stuff did
[14:16] <IdleOne> toresn: nope
[14:16] <IdleOne> toresn: connection timed out
[14:16] <pdlnhrd> is there a program that would allow you to find out a password that was stored into the "keyring"  i have a mapping set up to an ftp account but i need to get the password
[14:16] <sybariten> my guess is that this is asked like once a day, but....
[14:17] <sybariten> ....is there any NTFS write support with the Ubuntu live CD?
[14:17] <sybariten> if so, i am ditching the LVM machine and trying ubuntu on an XP machine here....  but i need disk access, coz i am gonna work on some large files...
[14:18] <erUSUL> !ntfs-3g
[14:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:18] <sybariten> and with "NTFS support", i mean something in the line of "it works, you will not destroy your companys XP install while doing it"
[14:18] <amadeux> what's the best way to view hd (720p) apple trailers when browsing apple's site with firefox?
[14:19] <amadeux> What's the best way to view hd (720p) apple trailers when browsing apple's site with firefox?
[14:20] <sarthor> HI, using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
[14:20] <sarthor> i am not using any bandwidth controller
[14:21] <dzb> Allthough ESD is activated, only one app can access the sound device at a time... how can I fix this? Feisty-Gnome-ALSA
[14:21] <scguy318> sybariten: NTFS-3G is it
[14:21] <Bonster> does the new pidgin has video support?
[14:26] <scguy318> Bonster: no
[14:27] <amadeux> can I view apple trailers (.mov/h.264) with totem?
[14:27] <IdleOne> !dvd | amadeux
[14:27] <ubotu> amadeux: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:27] <sarthor> HI, using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
[14:27] <sarthor> i am not using any bandwidth controller
[14:28] <zombie_monkey> how do I enable a framebuffer console
[14:28] <amadeux> IdleOne, I am not talking about dvds
[14:29] <amadeux> Is medibuntu available for gutsy?
[14:29] <dgjones> !medibuntu | amadeux
[14:29] <zombie_monkey> I found /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14/drivers/video/intelfb and /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/video/intelfb
[14:29] <ubotu> amadeux: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:29] <IdleOne> amadeux: you need libdvdcss2 to view .mov files
[14:29] <amadeux> IdleOne, ok
[14:30] <amadeux> IdleOne, but mplayer seems to be able to play h.264 files just fine?
[14:30] <chazco> LjL - which init.d script was the battery test in?
[14:30] <LjL> chazco, both checkfs.sh and checkroot.sh
[14:30] <chazco> Oki, thanks :)
[14:30] <askand>  Is there a way to have the mousescrollbutton switch windows?
[14:31] <aladinsane> is the a video/stream capturing application for ubuntu? i need to record a real media video stream
[14:31] <sarthor> HI, my pasted squid is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46683/ ..using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
[14:33] <amadeux> aladinsane, I think mplayer can do that
[14:34] <amadeux> aladinsane, btw, bowie rocks
[14:34] <OroMaster> Does Ubuntu need /var to be on the same filesystem as / in order to boot correctly?
[14:34] <aladinsane> amadeux: ok, i'll have a look at it, yes he he's the man!
[14:34] <toresn> IdleOne: could try again? the port should be open now
[14:35] <toresn> * +you
[14:35] <K_Dallas> Morning guys! How do I get the connection when I connect ubuntu to a router? Under Windows the connection is automatically there. Thanks
[14:35] <ron_> i have a system with 2 drives one os and one data, i rebooted the other day an now the second data disk is gone, i can boot to the live disk and use the second disk just fine
[14:35] <IdleOne> toresn: timed out again
[14:35] <ron_> but not on may main system
[14:36] <bakarat> is it possible to log in with 2 users in gnome simultaneously? (so the session of user1 is kept alive while user2 is busy and vica versa)
[14:36] <ron_> mount /dev/sdb1 /160gig/
[14:36] <ron_> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /160gig/ busy
[14:36] <genii> OroMaster: /var can be any filesystem that can be written to if it's on a separate partition than / but normally it's ext2/ext3
[14:36] <ron_> i took it out of fstab
[14:36] <toresn> IdleOne: ok :/
[14:36] <ron_> but still cannot mount
[14:36] <mluser-work> Is there a way to have ubuntu associate with a trusted wireless point, even before a user logs on?
[14:36] <amadeux> When I try to play a .mov/h.264 file in totem, I get this error: "Video codec 'Advanced Video Coding (H264)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies." I have installed medibuntu repos in my sources.list and apt-get'ed w32codecs and libdvdcss2, but still....
[14:38] <OroMaster> I have /dev/md0 (ext3) mounted at / and /dev/md1 (ext3) mounted at /drives/mirror with /var symlinking to /drives/mirror/var.  My network is screwy on boot up.
[14:39] <OroMaster> On boot, lo is down and eth0 is not configured correctly.
[14:39] <smookerPC1> Hey, what means Enable GL Desktop ?
[14:39] <bkraptor> amadeux: I play that kind of files with mplayer
 what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[14:40] <OroMaster> "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; sudo ifconfig lo up" seems to solve the problem, but what can I do to get it to boot cleanly?
[14:40] <a1r3yu> Argh.  Automatix is freezing up on me!
[14:41] <bulmer> OroMaster-> having /var symlink to unmounted partition at boot is sure a prescription for disaster
[14:41] <LjL> !automatix | a1r3yu
[14:41] <ubotu> a1r3yu: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[14:41] <amadeux> hardware-Rks, gutsy
[14:41] <OroMaster> /dev/md1 automounts to /drives/mirror on boot.  /var points into that directory.
[14:42] <bulmer> OroMaster-> attempt to correct the symlinking  problem first, /var is a very important system directory for logging and such..
[14:42] <amadeux> bkraptor, yeah, mplayer works ok for that sort of file. But the mplayer plugin does not work flawlessly at all, not on the apple page at least. I think apple uses some crap techniques so that it only works fine with quicktime (yuck)
[14:42] <smookerPC1> whats automatix ?
[14:42] <angah> hello all
[14:42] <angah> i got problem using apt-get
[14:42] <zth> hello
[14:42] <LjL> smookerPC1: a pretty useless script, google will answer you, or read the above article
[14:42] <Pici> smookerPC1: Its a package that makes it easier to install some programs, but often fails and leads to a broken system, we dont support it, please see ubotu;s nessage above.
[14:43] <angah> it show this error > E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[14:43] <angah> E: Couldn't read list of package sources
[14:43] <Kaur> Hi
[14:43] <zth> where can i find what the "adress" to my USB audio is? It aint /dev/dsp
[14:43] <angah> any idea?
[14:43] <peroyhav> Hello guys, I'm new to this, and have a question about my sound, I run a Laptop from toshiba and the alsa mixer reports my sound as functioning. I have sound in headphones but not in the laptop speakers, anybody who knows what to do?
[14:43] <OroMaster> Will it work to mount a device (like /dev/md1) right on /var?
[14:43] <smookerPC1> aw i wont use it then :)
[14:43] <a1r3yu> Dangit, I wish I'd read that about automatix before I let it loose.
[14:43] <sainry> hi Kaur:
[14:43] <wols_> angah: it clearly tells you what's wrong
mp4 and mov support failed for me too...   I had to install vlc player.   It looks like ubuntu 7.10 removed mp4 and mov support for ffmpeg.  They might have done the same for Totem...  Legal issues
[14:44] <Kaur> It would be nice to hear your opinions on that:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621147&highlight=hdd+sound
[14:44] <genii> OroMaster: Yes, you can directly use something like md1 or so as /var
[14:44] <ubun00b> IdleOne: could you try one last time? if it doesn't work this time i'm giving up for the day :-)
[14:44] <mluser-work> Is there a way to have ubuntu associate with a trusted wireless point, even before a user logs on?
[14:44] <sybariten> scguy318: have you tried it yourself?
[14:44] <zth> where can i find what the "adress" to my USB audio is? It aint /dev/dsp. Anyone?
[14:44] <sarthor> HI, my pasted squid is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46683/ ..using feisty lame server every things going fine. but my squid is not working fine. i download paltalk, msn messnger etc files but when i download these files next time, its not comming from my cache, Why Help
  Play your .mov and .mp4 files with Vlc Player
[14:45] <bulmer> mluser-work-> yes, your root user can set that up, assuming the AP is available
[14:45] <wols_> mluser-work: yes by configuring your /etc/network/interfaces
[14:45] <angah> wols: http://pastebin.com/m215fa6f4 from my /etc/apt/source.list
[14:45] <OroMaster> Is there any reason then that I can't mount it elsewhere and symlink /var to it?  Does the system give mounting priority to certain filetree locations?
[14:45] <angah> i saw nothing wrong in it
[14:45] <mluser-work> bulmer: wols_: thanks
[14:45] <zombie_monkey> how do I make ubuntu open a console using intelfb as a framebuffer console driver when I press ctrl+alt+fx
[14:45] <bulmer> OroMaster-> make an effort to have /var  not a symlink...its an important system directory
[14:46] <nkbreau> can someone please help me, i have ubuntu gutsy and a conf call i need to attend but cant get the mic to work... using a dell d830 laptop. so far i havent foiund anything using google that explains how to enable it
[14:46] <IdleOne> toresn: asking for username and password. good job you did it
[14:46] <angah> wols: any idea?
[14:46] <tntCry> how come when i send a file to my friend it uploads at 3kb/s hes on LAN , while in msn windows it uploads at .5MB
[14:46] <Ameng>  hi all, anyone knows if can use an usb microphone in ubuntu? and how to？ Thanks
[14:46] <angah> wols_: any idea?
[14:46] <angah> wols_: http://pastebin.com/m215fa6f4 from my /etc/apt/source.list
[14:46] <tntCry> im sending through pidgins btw
[14:46] <ubun00b> IdleOne: ahh, great! thank you :)
[14:46] <Kaur> Ameng: yes u can
[14:46] <IdleOne> ubun00b: np
[14:46] <andreuu> does anyone know how to add a boot sector to a hd ?
[14:47] <OroMaster> genii> thank you for your input
[14:47] <Ameng>  Kaur， but how to do that?
[14:47] <Kaur> Ameng: plug it in, choose the right device from audio settings and...)
[14:47] <IdleOne> !ficgrub | andreuu read this link before asking again
[14:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ficgrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:47] <andreuu> !ficgrub
[14:47] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | andreuu read this link before asking again
[14:47] <ubotu> andreuu read this link before asking again: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:47] <angah> wols_: i keep thinking what wrong
[14:47] <Kaur> Ameng: it should work fine
[14:47] <Strykar> evening
[14:47] <Kaur> Ameng: I've used one
[14:47] <bkraptor> is there a graphical way to see bandwidth usage? gnome desktop btw
[14:47] <Strykar> is this a place to discuss the Ubuntu-Rescue-Remix dostro?
[14:48] <Ameng> Kaur, but my sound card use a oss driver. the micorphone will use an alsa one?
[14:48] <omar> My desktop has got one workstation only, how do I make them two or four??
[14:48] <tntCry> IMPROTANT QUESTION , my lan transfer upload speed is 3kb on pidgins .. my friends is on windows and its very slow...
[14:48] <PriceChild> Strykar, this is for official ubuntu support
[14:48] <bulmer> omar-> ctrl+alt+f2 f3 f4 f5 are consoles
[14:48] <PriceChild> tntCry, because it has to go through the msn servers (or whatever client)
[14:49] <heartsblood> does anybody know why the current release of moblock can't build a blocklist from moblock-control update?
[14:49] <Kaur> Ameng: Not sure about it
[14:49] <tntCry> what should i do PriceChild
[14:49] <Strykar> PriceChild: thanks, any idea if the escue-remix team has an IRC channel
[14:49] <Ameng>  Kaur, can they work together
[14:49] <Kaur> Ameng: I use ALSA
[14:49] <Kaur> Ameng: Try:)
[14:49] <tntCry> i cant see hes network PriceChild when i try to send it directly
[14:49] <Ameng> Kaur, ok ,i ll try
[14:49] <heartsblood> scratch that, the current version doesn't come with a blocklist at all
[14:50] <peroyhav> does anyboy here know how to configure sound-cards in Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:50] <PriceChild> Strykar, read the web page and find out
[14:50] <Kaur> Ameng: All I know is that I managed to use an usb mic and play the stuff I recorded without having to change the drivers
[14:50] <PriceChild> tntCry, nothing you can do
[14:50] <tntCry> the folder content could not be displayed  .. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: workgroup".
[14:51] <tntCry> i am shareing a file and he cant see it
[14:51] <askand> Is there a way to have the mousebuttons in the keycombinationsettings?
[14:51] <angah> !apt-get
[14:51] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[14:51] <heartsblood> n/m the list must have been hammered
[14:51] <Strykar> PriceChild: it isn't listed there or in the channel list here, i'll keep looking thanks
[14:51] <Ameng> Kaur,sounds good, thanks for sharing you experience
[14:51] <tntCry> damn this problem arised since i started ubuntu but fed up after 8 hours of waste asking questions , and 11 hours of searching the net with a numb foot
[14:52] <tntCry> Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: mshome".
[14:52] <hackeron_> hey, my X won't start after reboot, it says gtk is configured setuid and this is not supported - any ideas?
[14:52] <smookerPC1> How i can change my icons to be smoller ?
[14:52] <Kaur> Íf I use gutsy with its default kernel, my laptop makes really frequent and quiet beeping. I think it is the HDD but I'm not 100% sure. If I use 2.6.20-16-generic kernel the beeping is gone. What might be the issue with gutsy's kernel?
[14:52] <Kaur> Ameng: No problem.
[14:52] <omar> My desktop has got one workspace only, how do I make them two or four??
[14:53] <ketrox> right click
[14:53] <Kaur> omar: exactly
[14:53] <omar> Kaur: Exactly what??
[14:54] <genii> omar: Rightclick on where your workspaces are
[14:54] <Kaur> omar: right click on a workspace
[14:54] <tntCry> smookerPC1, look at my desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/2/f_Screenshotm_d5d011c.png&srv=img01
[14:54] <Kaur> bottom-right corner
[14:54] <tntCry> omar, take a look ;) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/2/f_Screenshotm_d5d011c.png&srv=img01
[14:54] <juelz> hello, i wanna change the locales but a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" quits with "Generation complete.". how do i change the locales via the debconf frontend?
[14:54] <hackeron_> anyone? I can't login to gnome after reboot, it says gtk is running as setuid and this is not allowed - any ideas?
[14:55] <omar> Kaur: Ooooooh!! Okay! I got it now.. :D thanx 4 ur help dude! That was easier than I thought.. :)
[14:55] <ketrox> hackeron_, sudo apt-get install kdm
[14:55] <zombie_monkey> "Update: After poking about the Net a bit more, I have discovered the intelfb driver won't connect with an LCD unless the module is built into the kernel. Further, it requires a lot of detailed loading instructions in the kernel line in GRUB. Further, I find suspend won't work without the swsusp patch compiled into the kernel. I believe it's now called suspend2." -> is that right?
[14:55] <angah> wols_: i dont know how to solve it
[14:55] <angah> wols_: it make me headache
[14:56] <wols_> angah: tried deleting line #1?
[14:56] <hackeron_> ketrox: I'd rather fix libgtk
[14:56] <tntCry> do you mean to make it this big smookerPC1 ?
[14:56] <Kaur> omar: np. But keep the number of workspaces reasonable. If u have too many of them it's a waste of resource
[14:56] <bkraptor> does anyone know how to fix suspend/hibernate with ati fglrx?
[14:56] <smookerPC1> no
[14:56] <smookerPC1> i mean to make it smoller
[14:57] <bodo> now i have ubuntu 7.10 and i wanna setup fedora8 beside it but i don't have a cd/dvd is there any way to setup from the image on the hard disk????
[14:57] <smookerPC1> the icons
[14:57] <juelz> hello, i wanna change the locales but a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" quits with "Generation complete.". how do i change the locales via the debconf frontend?
[14:57] <wols_> bodo: that's more of a fedora question, isn't it?
[14:57] <bazhang_> bodo: is that a question on how to setup fedora or ubuntu?
[14:58] <hackeron_> anyone? I can't login to gnome after reboot, it says gtk is running as setuid and this is not allowed - any ideas?
[14:58] <bodo> no wols cause there was away by coping two files into ubuntu then install
[14:58] <ron_> does any one know what could hold a drive in use
[14:58] <bazhang_> bodo: probably should ask in #fedora
[14:58] <wols_> bodo: two ubuntu files or two fedora files? it's still e fedora questionq hen you want to install it
[14:59] <ron_> i have rebooted , removed from fstab , but even fdsk it
[14:59] <wols_> the question is "I want to install fedora from an existing ubuntu to another partition"
[14:59] <hackeron_> ketrox: I tried xdm, same error
[14:59] <ron_> still cannot mount it abgin
[14:59] <ron_> again
[14:59] <ketrox> xdm uses gtk too
[14:59] <bodo> you are right wols
[14:59] <ketrox> kdm uses qt
[14:59] <chazco> Hi... whats the best way to control my 7.10 laptop from my 7.10 desktop (over LAN)?
[14:59] <hackeron_> ketrox: I want to use gtk...
[14:59] <wols_> chazco: there never is a "best"
[14:59] <hackeron_> ketrox: so will kdm if I get it to start gnome
[14:59] <chazco> Ok... any option would be a start :D
[15:00] <wols_> chazco: possibilities are among others remote X, vnc, ssh, etc
[15:00] <bodo> wols_: the question is "I want to install fedora from an existing ubuntu to another partition" right but how????
[15:00] <chazco> Used to use Remote desktop when i had Vista... looking for something similar
[15:00] <wols_> bodo: ask #fedora
[15:00] <Kaur> Those of you who are using gutsy with its default kernel... Could you please listen to your laptops very closely:)? And I'm not joking. Mine starts to beep silently when I try to use Gutsy with its default kernel.
[15:00] <bodo> thx
[15:00] <chazco> Kaur - Using a laptop now... no beeping....
[15:00] <wols_> bodo: if you'd want to isntall ubuntu from fedora we could help but not your way
[15:00] <taneli_> I have a laptop with 500Mhz and 64mb Ram. What distro would i be able to install and run on it? Even Vectorlinux seems to need 96mb
[15:00] <Pici> Kaur: Mines not beeping either.
[15:00] <Kaur> Hm...
[15:00] <wols_> Kaur: acpi probs?
[15:01] <Kaur> Am I paranoid or what:D?
[15:01] <Pici> taneli_: Probably not any variant of Ubuntu, you might want to ask in ##linux
[15:01] <hackeron_> taneli_: slackware?
[15:01] <bulmer> taneli_-> try damn small linux
[15:01] <taneli_> damn small linux seems pretty ugly to me
[15:01] <Kaur> wols_: dunno:D
[15:01] <smookerPC1> lol :P
[15:01] <wols_> for any answer other than *ubuntu, this is the wrong channel for you to ask
[15:01] <bulmer> taneli_-> then make your pc prettier, add more memories
[15:01] <Kaur> wols_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/152439
[15:02] <taneli_> what are the requirements for slackware
[15:02] <wols_> Terrasque: ask ##linux
[15:02] <employee_> hi
[15:02] <wols_> taneli_: you are offtopic
[15:02] <hackeron_> anyone? I can't login to gnome after reboot, it says gtk is running as setuid and this is not allowed - any ideas?
[15:02] <rafal> hi
[15:02] <chazco> You could try Xubuntu... If XP can run on that i'd expect it to...
[15:02] <wols_> hackeron_: gtk is running?
[15:02] <employee_> how are you
[15:02] <zombie_monkey> taneli_: http://www.slackware.com/install/sysreq.php
[15:02] <hackeron_> wols_: no, it isn't
[15:03] <bulmer> hackeron_-> try to log- on via console
[15:03] <hackeron_> bulmer: I am
[15:03] <chazco> "Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 128 MB RAM."
[15:03] <wols_> < hackeron>: ...it says gtk is running as setuid
[15:03] <wols_> so what did you say there
[15:03] <employee_> rafal: hi
[15:03] <rafal> my ubuntu hanged when left for the night.  ubuntu 7.10 on amd64.  Is it possible that it was software bug?  It showed random "noise" (not moving) on screen, and didnt reacted to anything (capslock, power button)
[15:03] <hackeron_> wols_: it quits straight after
[15:03] <bulmer> hackeron_-> gnome is not in console
[15:03] <hackeron_> bulmer: .xsession-errors is however
[15:03] <wols_> hackeron_: gtk can't "run". it's a library
[15:03] <bulmer> hackeron_-> no x stuff in console, if you understand what console is
[15:03] <rafal> hackeron_:  you ment gnome?
[15:05] <hackeron_> wols_: gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supproted use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:05] <rafal> what to use if I want good 3d (doom3) but open drivers...  is Radeon better then NVIdia?  does it work now (ie on ubuntu) or "it will work one day"?
[15:06] <hackeron_> rafal: no I didn't
[15:06] <hackeron_> bulmer: X runs on top of console, if you understand what console is
[15:06] <hackeron_> bulmer: you can get X messages in .xsession-errors
[15:07] <wols_> rafal: radeon r3xx cards have open 3D drives. nvidia cards don't have free, open drivers at all for 3D, 2D only
[15:07] <bulmer> hackeron_ go to ctrl+alt+f1 and attempt as many time you wish to start X
[15:07] <wols_> another one with free open drivers is intel
[15:07] <jdo> anyone know of a decent "Linux Compatible" web cam?
[15:07] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following when trying to startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:08] <hackeron_> bulmer: no shit
[15:08] <bazhang_> ohmy
[15:08] <Pici> !language | hackeron_
[15:08] <ubotu> hackeron_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:08] <rafal> wols_: how good are open drivers for radeon?  which radeon up to 180 USD is recommeneded?
[15:09] <Chest> guys, how do I change the gnome menu/system font size?
[15:09] <K_Dallas> A question about email lient Evolution: I am trying to set up a gmail imap account but nowhere I see an option to leave the messages on the server. Am I missing something? Thanks
[15:10] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following in .xsession-errors and X dies when I startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:10] <bach> hello everybody!    I have a big big problem.         last week ,i changed the keyboard shortcut of scim, now the wine can't work as before,and Warcraft also can't play,compiz doesn't work too.  compizconfig-settings-manager can't open? can u help me
[15:10] <Creationist> Where can I go to get help for Ubuntu Studio-specific apps?
[15:11] <bazhang_> which apps?
[15:11] <jdo> anyone? know of a decent "Linux Compatible" web cam?
[15:11] <krim> I'm about to install mplayer and aptitude shows me mplayer, mplayer-386, mplayer-586, mplayer-686 and mplayer-amd64 (and a couple more). I'm using 64 bit Ubuntu, so why are all the other there? What's the difference between package mplayer and mplayer-amd64 in my case?
[15:12] <hackeron_> jdo: Philips 900NC
[15:12] <bruenig> !info mplayer-amd64
[15:12] <ubotu> Package mplayer-amd64 does not exist in gutsy
[15:12] <bruenig> hmmm
[15:12] <jdo> hackeron: Thanks
[15:12] <jarle>  If I am running a evms storage group made from two physical devices, is it possible to remove evms but still access the data in the storage group in some other way? As Ubuntu has dropped official support for evms, and it also seems to make my system unbootable sometimes, I am thinking about removing evms. Any help appreciated...
[15:13] <rafal> wht GFX would you buy for good 3d, but preferably open/linux friendly
[15:13] <wols_> rafal: a nvidia card
[15:13] <bach> ???
[15:14] <rafal> wols_: shouldnt we support ATi since it makes drivers free etc?
[15:14] <krim> rafal: Nvidia has ok closed drivers, ATI though has released specs for their cards but that was pretty recently so the open driver isn't good enough yet.
[15:14] <wols_> krim: compiled for different CPUs
[15:15] <wols_> rafal: ati has had shit drivers until now and ALWAYS a sub par opengrl driver
[15:15] <wols_> rafal: if you already know the answer, why do you even ask?
[15:15] <krim> rafal: If you're not going to play games (which I assume you are since you ask for a good one) you should go with Intels integrated card which has free drivers.
[15:15] <bach> ???
[15:16] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following in .xsession-errors and X dies when I startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:16] <wols_> krim: he didn't ask for buying a mobo but for buying a videocard...
[15:16] <wols_> !repeat
[15:16] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:16] <krim> wols_: I know, I was just wondering why all of them was on the list and what the difference between mplayer and mplayer-amd64 would be considering I'm using 64 bit ubuntu
[15:16] <bazhang_> jdo: http://www.linux.com/feature/118896
[15:16] <krim> wols_: I know that, I answered him in two parts. Maybe he's buying a new computer, we don't know
[15:17] <jdo> bazhang: Brilliant Thnx
[15:17] <ddonky> how do i know if i have feisty or gutsy?
[15:17] <ndlovu> I have an intel hda sound card, and the volume at max is still quite soft. anyone know how to fix this?
[15:17] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: show all channels and adjust the "front"
[15:17] <bazhang_> jdo: no worries :}
[15:17] <wols_> !version
[15:17] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:17] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: is this a dell inspiron 1420n by chance?  i had the same issue with intel hda on it
[15:18] <ndlovu> bur[n]er, there is no "front" option
[15:18] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: you haev to enable the "front"
[15:18] <ndlovu> bur[n]er, no it's an hp nx6310
[15:18] <bur[n]er> ndlovu: double-click volume, edit, preferences
[15:18] <bazhang_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 ndlovu
[15:18] <ndlovu> edit > preferences has everything enabled
[15:19] <ndlovu> (no front option)
[15:19] <ndlovu> bazhang_, I'll look through that, tks for the link
[15:20] <bazhang_> ndlovu: no worries :}
[15:22] <oediv_> I'm running ubuntu dapper with g++ version 4.0.3, however I'm trying to compile festival+speech_tools from source, which somehow breaks with gcc4, can I safely do apt-get install g++-3.4?
[15:22] <wraund>  /68
[15:22] <erUSUL> oediv_: yes you can
[15:23] <wraund> sorry typo
[15:23] <juelz> hello, i wanna change the locales but a "dpkg-reconfigure locales" quits with "Generation complete.". how do i change the locales via the debconf frontend?
[15:23] <nny> can someone tell me what package or packages has the print drivers in it. I have cups, need the extra printer drivers
[15:23] <erUSUL> oediv_: then you do 'make CC=g++-3.4' or something like that
[15:24] <oediv_> I can set CXX=g++34 or something in the speech_tools config file.., I already managed to do that on another system :)
[15:24] <xevil> nny: gimp-print
[15:24] <oediv_> but I was affraid of breaking my system by installing multiple gcc versions
[15:25] <bach> guys, I have another question,why the firestarter can't open sometimes as i have added it in the section?
[15:25] <nny> xevil, thanks
[15:25] <xevil> nny: I think the name was changed to gutenprint
[15:26] <nny> xevil, yeah repos took care of that
[15:27] <Eigen_KKnull> hi boyz
[15:28] <Eigen_KKnull> lol:
[15:28] <Eigen_KKnull> http://ex-periment.1gb.in/
[15:28] <nny> xevil, hmm, printer drivers list is still pretty empty. I installed from the server packages (eee pc) any other driver packages that add support to cups?
[15:28]  * emgent hi
[15:29] <ikonia> nny: cups contains the drivers
[15:30] <nny> ikonia, hmm i only have 4-5 manufacturers when adding the printer, and the HP driver for my officejet isn't listed. On my full install, it has a lot more
[15:30] <NET||abuse> i get udp test failure on dns lookup with smtpdiag,
[15:30] <NET||abuse> Is that normal?
[15:30] <onats> hi, how does ubuntu know which mirror to use when downloading updates? does it use the one based on your current system location, or based on ip address?
[15:31] <ikonia> nny: there is a hp printer package hplp or something like that
[15:31] <ikonia> onats: works it out at install time
[15:31] <ikonia> NET||abuse: it can be
[15:31] <erUSUL> onats: it is in the configuration file for apt
[15:31] <wols_> onats: it uses what's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:31] <cheeby> hi.  how do I get flashplayer to work with mozilla?
[15:31] <oediv_> erUSUL: and if I want to have 3.4 as the default version I could just run update-alternatives for it?
[15:31] <onats> how do i reconfigure this? manually edit sources.list?
[15:31] <Lllama> Hello all. Where should I be looking to see which kernel flags were used for boot up?
[15:31] <Pici> onats: You can pick a new/faster mirror using the utility in System>Administration>Software sources.
[15:31] <ikonia> cheeby: install the flash plugin from the ubuntu repos
[15:31] <cheeby> do I need to do the extra repository thing?
[15:31] <ikonia> !flash >cheeby
[15:32] <ikonia> cheeby: see the message from ubotu - it will tell you how to do it
[15:32] <erUSUL> oediv_: yes i think that would work.. (never tried myself)
[15:32] <onats> Pici, thanks! that answers the question!
[15:32] <ikonia> linduxed: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:32] <cheeby> ikonia, gotcha.  this is v. 7.10
[15:32] <ikonia> cheeby: thats fien
[15:32] <ikonia> fine
[15:32] <cheeby> ok, thanks.
[15:33]  * cheeby is coming over from gentoo...
[15:33] <Creationist> What do I need to install to compile source?
[15:33] <linduxed> ikonia: about what?
[15:33] <ikonia> Creationist: build-essential package and any depencencies
[15:33] <ikonia> linduxed: kernel flags
[15:33] <ubuntufreak> When i try to sign the Ubuntu code of conduct in the launchpad it gives me an error (7, 9, 'No public key')
[15:33] <Lllama> ikonia: I think you meant me.
[15:33] <Creationist> ikonia: build-essential is the package I couldn't remember.  Thank you.
[15:33] <ikonia> Lllama: I think you may be right
[15:33] <gary4gar> Pici, how to select faster mirror, currently using for my country but not sure if its the fastest ?
[15:34] <ikonia> gary4gar: try others
[15:34] <hackeron_> Anyone? - I get the following in .xsession-errors and X dies when I startx or login throuh gdm: Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not supported use of GTK+ .... Refusing to initialize GTK+
[15:34] <Lllama> ikonia: Is there a log showing what was definately used, or is the grub config guarenteed in that respect?
[15:34] <ikonia> Lllama: grub config is %100 spot on
[15:34] <Pici> gary4gar: Theres a button in the Software Sources tool that looks for faster mirrors, I dont remember what exactly its labeled though.
[15:34] <ikonia> hackeron_: something has setuid on it that shouldn't
[15:34] <cheeby> ikonia, ack.  I have x86_64.
[15:35] <NET||abuse> ikonia, so udp isn't usually the dns access method of choice?
[15:35] <linduxed> ive got a grub related problem
[15:35] <oediv_> erUSUL: I'm not sure why, but for any other package I would believe that it wouldn't break anything, for gcc however I'm always careful, because it might break your complete system :S
[15:35] <Woutifier> Hmm, where can I find additional ettercap plugins?
[15:35] <ikonia> cheeby: then there is no official flash plugin, only the free gnash version which isn't really very good
[15:35] <linduxed> appears regardless of distro
[15:35] <wols_> cheeby: then you get problems. nspluginwarapper, running browser in a 32bit chroot, etc
[15:35] <ikonia> NET||abuse: udp isn't normally used for lookups
[15:35] <wols_> ikonia: for DNS?
[15:35] <hackeron_> ikonia: right, how do I reverse that? -- I tried re-installing every gnome and gtk package which didn't help
[15:35] <linduxed> basically, if ive got grub installed i cant see my dvd at all
[15:35] <ikonia> wols_: yes, I know udp is used, but for what NET||abuse is asking its not a problem
[15:35] <brobostigon> hi
[15:36] <NET||abuse> hmm, ok,, yeh, checked another server,, seems to be no UDP enabled either.. guess it's normal.. just have problem with delivery for mail
[15:36] <ikonia> linduxed: thats nothing to do with grub
[15:36] <erUSUL> oediv_: well myself i will not make gcc-3.4 default compiler as may break things if you compile something against system libs or kernel (compiled with other gcc)
[15:36] <linduxed> i know its grub related because i can boot discs BEFORE grub kicks in and if i install windows' bootloader the dvds are back
[15:36] <NET||abuse> ikonia, i give in, have to grep through the logs :( grrr...
[15:36] <ikonia> linduxed: thats nothing to do with grub
[15:36] <cheeby> ikonia, so I've heard.
[15:36] <cheeby> wols_, I'll check it out.
[15:36] <linduxed> ikonia: could it have something to do with the fact that ive got core 2 duo?
[15:36] <ikonia> linduxed: no
[15:36] <gary4gar> Pici, found it, testing now....
[15:37] <cheeby> thanks.
[15:37] <linduxed> ikonia: well why doesnt that happen if ive got winloader or boot from a disc?
[15:37] <Lllama> ikonia: Cheers. Thanks for the help.
[15:37] <wols_> linduxed: on which controller is the DVED attached? lemme guess: JMicron?
[15:37] <ikonia> Lllama: welcome
[15:37] <linduxed> wols_: command to check?
[15:38] <wols_> linduxed: your motherboard manual for example
[15:38] <linduxed> not present right now
[15:38] <wols_> also, when you run windows or a LiveCD yiz might not boot the same kernel as wehn you run from harddisk
[15:38]  * ikonia offers a lid to wols for the can of worms he's opening
[15:38] <mluser-work> Anyone having problems starting Miro? On my system it dies while loading the miro guide.
[15:38] <linduxed> no prob over here
[15:38] <ikonia> mluser-work: miro ?
[15:39] <Pici> ikonia: the renamed democracy player
[15:39] <ikonia> Pici: ta
[15:39] <linduxed> mluser-work: you installed it with apt or downloaded?
[15:39] <mluser-work> ikonia: its a video podcast agregator
[15:39] <ubuntuisloved> anyone know how to setup keyboard shortcut SUPERL windows KEY? i got it but i want Windows KEY + T for terminal?
[15:39] <mluser-work> linduxed: I installed it with apt
[15:39] <a1r3yu> Is there a command line mp3 player?
[15:39] <TehUni> a1r3yu: sure.. mplayer
[15:39] <a1r3yu> Thanks!
[15:39] <linduxed> mluser-work: should work then...
[15:40] <bazhang_> miro is still a work in progress-- mluser-work; it crashes on OS X as well
[15:40] <wols_> a1r3yu: mp3blaster
[15:40] <Profanephobia> can someone shed some light on whats going on here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46694/
[15:40] <linduxed> wols_: ok, what if it is JMicron?
[15:40] <wols_> linduxed: a company
[15:40] <ikonia> linduxed: tell us if it is first
[15:41] <mluser-work> On my system its dying with this error "/usr/bin/python2.5: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: PR_NewMonitor"
[15:41] <wols_> linduxed: what mobo is it, what chipset?
[15:41] <linduxed> well my computer was not provided with a manual for the mobo (its a laptop)
[15:41] <dZen|n|> Hello, I'm trying to manually install ubuntu 7.10. It were an win machine before sp I used c:/ 12Gbit and d:/60 gbit I don't wanna delete the D:/ but only install ubunut on "c" can somebody hel me here ?
[15:41] <linduxed> however i can try checking what model it is
[15:41] <alex6644> hello
[15:41] <ikonia> dZen|n|: partition the 12 gig partition at teh installer then
[15:42] <dZen|n|> ikonia: but how ?
[15:42] <Creationist> Trying to compile Brahms... ./configure fails saying it can't find the X includes.  What could that be?
[15:42] <ikonia> dZen|n|: it asks you at the installer
[15:42] <wols_> Creationist: the xlib header files
[15:42] <selene> halo
[15:42] <ikonia> Creationist: either you've not got the X11 headers installed or your environemnt varibles are wrong
[15:43] <Creationist> So what package do I need?
[15:43] <Profanephobia> can someone shed some light on whats going on here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46694/
[15:43] <linduxed> wols_: great....
[15:43] <alex6644> anyone can help me start with linux?
[15:43] <ikonia> alex6644: just ask the questions you need
[15:43] <miked> does anyone find evolution 2.12 imap dirt slow?
[15:43] <linduxed> wols_: having scrolled through the papers, i dont believe they specify what mobo its got
[15:43] <ikonia> Creationist: x11-dev
[15:44] <linduxed> wols_: only generic specs such as RAM, CPU and HDD size....
[15:44] <alex6644> i have ubuntu 5.01 and i will like to try to access my windows file ,i just dont get the mount comd?
[15:44] <John_R> evolution is dirt slow period
[15:44] <John_R> and it takes the rest of the system with it
[15:44] <John_R> (one man's opinion)
[15:44] <ikonia> alex6644 mount -t ntfs /dev/disk_id /mount_point
[15:44] <Pici> alex6644: 5.10 is no longer supported unfortunately.
[15:45] <wols_> alex6644: what ikonia said will only mount it read only tho
[15:45] <Creationist> ikonia: No such package
[15:45] <ikonia> wols_: of course it will as ntfs-3g doesn't exist for 5.10
[15:45]  * Tamer Salam All :)
[15:45] <alex6644> thnak's i am going to try it now
[15:45] <ikonia> Creationist: use synaptic to get the correct name
[15:45] <wols_> Creationist:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46694/
[15:45] <wols_> oops. Creationist libx11-dev
[15:46] <ShredZ> gnomebaker was removed from feisty ? :/
[15:46] <ikonia> ShredZ: don't think so
[15:46] <linduxed> wols_: ok i think i found something
[15:46] <linduxed> wols_: mobo uses PM965 chipset
[15:46] <ShredZ> ikonia, hmm must be missing some repository then
[15:46] <linduxed> wols_: is that of any help?
[15:46] <Creationist> wols_, ikonia: THank you
[15:47] <wols_> linduxed: and the DVD is using sata or ide?
[15:48] <alex6644> it's tellin me ,   only root can do that  ,
[15:48] <John_R> alex: use sudo
[15:48] <alex6644> sudo?
[15:48] <John_R> oh wow
[15:48] <ikonia> alex6644: put sudo in front of the command
[15:48] <dZen|n|> oki thx it works now :D
[15:48] <linduxed> wols_: not specified either, would have to check too...but my first guess would be IDE, which would be why
[15:49] <alex6644> ok
[15:49] <linduxed> wols_: ill google some more for my laptop spec
[15:49] <danbhfive> Is there a good channel to discuss project ideas for ubuntu?
[15:49] <ikonia> danbhfive: ubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:49] <g-e> hey, somebody good with openoffice calc?
[15:50] <g-e> is it possible to paste data into calc without overwriting the style?
[15:50] <danbhfive> heh, maybe
[15:50] <wols_> linduxed: if it is IDE it uses a JMicron controller most likely
[15:50] <g-e> everytime i paste data, i need to restore the colors :(
[15:50] <Pici> g-e: you might want to try asking in #openoffice.org if you don't get an answer here :)
[15:50] <alex6644> it give me a list of cmd?how do i know if i got it mouted now?
[15:50] <wols_> alex6644: run mount
[15:50] <Thormx> /join #ubuntu-chat
[15:51] <alex6644> cmd not found
[15:51] <g-e> Pici: i did. nobody home at openoffice.org.
[15:51] <ikonia> alex6644: I guess you should upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu for us to help
[15:51] <danbhfive> g-e: in microsoft office, there is a paste special command, you get that by right clicking
[15:51] <linduxed> wols_: which would be a problem i persume?
[15:51] <jrib> alex6644: just 'mount', no 'ron'
[15:51] <wols_> alex6644: I don't believe you
[15:51] <jrib> run even
[15:51] <alex6644> yes i think so also i am going to try to get the 7.10 i hope it's good
[15:52] <John_R> alex: did you type "mount", or "run mount"?
[15:52] <alex6644> i typed run mount
[15:52] <John_R> ok
[15:52] <John_R> there is not a command called "run"
[15:52] <John_R> how long have you been using linux?
[15:52] <y> rver irc.enterthegame.com
[15:52] <nik_> hello, on my desktop are some partitions shown; ...they are called "data" and "sda1"...how to rename them?
[15:53] <alex6644> it's weird because i am also running live
[15:53] <John_R> how long have you been using linux?
[15:53] <g-e> danbhfive: yeah, there is paste special in oo too. but it only gives you 2 options. "paste as text" and "paste as html".
[15:53] <alex6644> i have been using it for a full 2 days lol
[15:53] <John_R> ah, ok
[15:53] <alex6644> lol
[15:53] <John_R> you need to snag a cop of something updated
[15:53] <John_R> 7.04 is probably your best bet
[15:53] <SoulChild> how do i change the console font on tty1 ???
[15:53] <John_R> 7.10 is still sort of flaky IMO
[15:53] <jrib> nik_: you may use "e2label" if they are ext2/3
[15:53] <IanLiu> I am following the steps to fix grub, but it doesn't work... Everything goes like a charm when typing the commands, but Windows still booting. Any tips?
[15:53] <danbhfive> g-e so isnt paste as text what you are looking for?
[15:53] <alex6644> ok tx for advise
[15:54] <John_R> np
[15:54] <ikonia> IanLiu: you are installing grub to the wrong boot disk ?
[15:54] <g-e> danbhfive: no, it makes all cells white. regardless of the color the cell had before pasting.
[15:54] <g-e> i found a way though!
[15:54] <IanLiu> I dunno
[15:54] <g-e> copy the text to gedit first.
[15:54] <ikonia> IanLiu: that is my diagnoses
[15:54] <g-e> then copy from gedit and then paste into calc.
[15:55] <onats> hi, i have multiple machines on my home network running on ubuntu. is there anyway that these machines can share resource (e.g. package information) rather than have each one of them download this information?
[15:55] <IanLiu> I type    grub > find /boot/ (...) (as said on the HowTo)
[15:55] <SoulChild> !console
[15:55] <wols_> IanLiu: where are you installing grub to?
[15:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:55] <g-e> then it gives you a nice menu with all options and it works.
[15:55] <IanLiu> it says (hd1,0)
[15:55] <ikonia> IanLiu: that is the root, so setup should be (hd0)
[15:55] <wols_> onats: look at apt-proxy, apt-cacher, etc
[15:55] <ikonia> IanLiu: as (hd0) is normally the boot disk
[15:55] <nik_> jrib: thanks...and for FAT?
[15:55] <IanLiu> hmm
[15:55] <IanLiu> ok, I will try
[15:55] <IanLiu> thanks
[15:55] <onats> wols, thanks!
[15:55] <ikonia> IanLiu: you don't boot from hd1,0 as thats a partition, not a disk
[15:56] <IanLiu> I see
[15:56] <wols_> IanLiu: but he could install grub there
[15:56] <IanLiu> yeah
[15:56] <Pici> !console is <alias> terminal
[15:56] <wols_> IanLiu: where are you installing grub to?
[15:56] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[15:56] <IanLiu> wols_: yeah, grub installed on hd1
[15:56] <jrib> nik_: that one requires some extra steps, try googling "label fat ubuntu"
[15:56] <wols_> IanLiu: and windows is on hd0?
[15:57] <IanLiu> wols_: I don't know where things are installed
[15:57] <krim>  I did 'sudo aptitude install mplayer-amd64' but when I type mplayer in terminal I get 'bash: /usr/bin/mplayer: No such file or directory
[15:57] <IanLiu> wols_: I don't know how I see this
[15:57] <Jork> anyone knows a download program like DAP (Download Accelerator Plus) for linux??
[15:57] <onats> wols, what if i have 2 ubuntu, and 1 debian sarge, will that be a problem?
[15:57] <Profanephobia> how can i tell pppd not to use LCP echos?
[15:57] <wols_> IanLiu: you install grub, eg. with grub-install or such?
[15:57] <jrib> !info mplayer-amd64 | krim
[15:57] <ubotu> krim: Package mplayer-amd64 does not exist in gutsy
[15:57] <jrib> krim: there's no such package, it is just "mplayer"
[15:58] <wols_> onats: no problem, but the sarge can't use the ubuntu repos obviously
[15:58] <skyfalcon866> in terminal how could i access a folder with spaces like /home/bob/meow mix
[15:58] <IanLiu> wols_: no. I run Ubuntu from Live CD and run 'grub' in terminal
[15:58] <krim> Jork: If you look at the addon site for Firefox there is some popular download manager
[15:58] <wols_> and neither can ubuntu use sarge repos
[15:58] <guest_> hello
[15:58] <jrib> skyfalcon866: cd "folder with spaces"
[15:58] <onats> wols, right.. so it'll only work for one or the other type of linux...
[15:58] <skyfalcon866> i did'
[15:58] <IanLiu> wols_: than I follow the !fixgrub HOW TO
[15:58] <wols_> IanLiu: you install grub one way or the other. either with grub-install or by runnint setup
[15:58] <Jork> thanks krim!
[15:58] <IanLiu> !fixgrub
[15:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:58] <jrib> skyfalcon866: then it should work
[15:58] <nny> ok so still don't have the proper hp drivers, although I have the hplip, any other packages in cups?
[15:58] <linduxed> wols_: samsung dual layer dvd burner, afaik its a ide
[15:59] <skyfalcon866> jack@jack-desktop:~$ cd /home/jack/Azureus Downloads
[15:59] <skyfalcon866> bash: cd: /home/jack/Azureus: No such file or directory
[15:59] <jrib> skyfalcon866: you need the "
[15:59] <linduxed> ill double check in bios
[15:59] <wols_> linduxed: what kernel do you use when booting from livecd? what kernel is on your harddisk?
[15:59] <IanLiu> But I will try again, thanks for the tips
[16:00] <esaunders> hello good morning
[16:01] <jrib> skyfalcon866: alternatively, if you do not want to surround the path with quotes, you may escape a space with '/'.  Example:  cd directory\ with\ spaces.  Even better is to use <TAB> to have your shell complete it for you
[16:01] <esaunders> anyone alive?
[16:01] <jrib> !tab | skyfalcon866
[16:01] <ubotu> skyfalcon866: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[16:01] <In_Silico> Is there an executable somewhere/how for wine?
[16:01] <Pici> !wine | In_Silico
[16:01] <ubotu> In_Silico: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[16:02] <esaunders> anyone would know a voice chat program for lan ?
[16:02] <sachi> guys how can i install this 30859-T-ish_v3.2.tar.gz
[16:03] <linduxed> wols_: ill reboot and see what it says
[16:03] <Pici> sachi: untar it, then read the INSTALL and/or README files inside it
[16:03] <brobostigon> sachi: you need to decompress it first.
[16:03] <sachi> ok ill try
[16:04] <sachi> ive xtracted it
[16:04] <sachi> what now
[16:04] <esaunders> chat with voice or possible plug in to make voice work..any suggestions??
[16:05] <sachi> i have several files inside
[16:05] <Pici> sachi: is there any readme or install files?
[16:05] <guest_> anyone knows where can i download a pirate matlab for ubuntu?
[16:05] <skyfalcon866>  is there a way to defrag a certain file
[16:05] <ikonia> guest_: do'nt ask about pirate software
[16:05] <Pici> !piracy | guest_
[16:05] <ubotu> guest_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[16:05] <ikonia> skyfalcon866: defrag ?
[16:05] <skyfalcon866> yes
[16:05] <bazhang_> guest_: that is not welcome here
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> esaunders: Would Skype work
[16:05] <stoneman> hi there, just wondering, can i watch .bin or .cue movies with movie player? i can watch dividx .avi movies, just wondering about .bin or .cue movies though
[16:05] <skyfalcon866> i have a torrent that is in 10000+ extents
[16:06] <ikonia> skyfalcon866 what are you trying to defrag
[16:06] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: work yes but not LAN
[16:06] <bazhang_> stoneman: vlc should handle those
[16:06] <wols_> skyfalcon866: what filesystem?
[16:06] <esaunders> not sure Jack..thinking maybe gizmo or skype yah
[16:06] <skyfalcon866> ext3
[16:06] <andreuu> I have a grub error, 1 HD in puter atm - bios says its secondary master, fdisk -l says its hdc (linux partition is hdc2)
[16:06] <wols_> skyfalcon866: defrag
[16:06] <stoneman> bazhang_ ah ok, so i cant watch those with movie player?
[16:06] <ikonia> skyfalcon866: you houldn't hav eto defrag it
[16:06] <wols_> andreuu: hd0
[16:06] <skyfalcon866> a file in 10000+ extents though?
[16:06] <bazhang_> stoneman: never tried so not sure there
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: Odd you can get it to call another computer over the internet but not a local one.  COuld you not just bounce the call off their server?
[16:06] <ikonia> andreuu: we went through all your grub situation earler
[16:06] <ikonia> skyfalcon866: thats fine
[16:07] <skyfalcon866> doesnt that mean it in 10000+ fragments
[16:07] <andreuu> hd0 is primary master
[16:07] <esaunders> guess I will have to Jack..
[16:07] <andreuu> my hd is secondary though
[16:07] <gordonjcp> stoneman: iirc mplayer will play bin/cue movies, but I'm not sure if it respects the cue file chapters
[16:07] <Pici> skyfalcon866: ext3 does not work the same way as ntfs(windows) filesystems do, its like comparing apples and oranges.
[16:07] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: you can call a local one but the traffic might go over the internet. or at least some traffic always does. not LAN
[16:08] <stoneman> gordonjcp thats cool, i dont really worry too much about going to chapters anyhow
[16:08] <onats> wols, i have a question on the apt-cacher. say one machine is on x64 ubuntu, the other on i386... will the packages be different for them? can i still utilize my apt-cacher?
[16:08] <skyfalcon866> does ext3 have better allocation than ntfs and fat32
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: Silly me, I forget not all lans have internet acces
[16:08] <gordonjcp> stoneman: fairy nuff
[16:08] <andreuu> so I should point root to (hd2,1) right ?
[16:08] <apex`> hell'o
[16:08] <Pici> skyfalcon866: yes.
[16:08] <skyfalcon866> ok
[16:08] <stoneman> gordonjcp very muff ^^
[16:08] <wols_> andreuu: wrong
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> andreuu: are you going for hda3 second partition?
[16:09] <wols_> andreuu: if your hdc is the only disk in there it's hd0 for BIOS
[16:09] <andreuu> secondary master
[16:09] <andreuu> i tried hd0 then it was error erm 17
[16:09] <andreuu> hd0 ws the only one it would let me
[16:10] <andreuu> so i root (hd0,1) cause the /boot is there
[16:11] <wols_> andreuu: since you hcanged your harddisks you migzht have to recreate your grub device.map again as well depending how you install grub
[16:11] <gcarrillo> hello, has anybody had problems with banshee being unstable on gutsy?
[16:11] <andreuu> device map hey
[16:12] <brobostigon> i dont use benshee, i use bmp
[16:12] <andreuu> would be quicker just to reinstall, lol, still be good to get my head around this
[16:12] <andreuu> fdisk shows it as hdc
[16:12] <LemonIceTea> err how do i get into ifconfig?
[16:12] <ikonia> andreuu: we have been through this 10 times earlier
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> andreuu: IS there a reason you have it on the secondary ide
[16:12] <ikonia> LemonIceTea: just type "ifconfig"
[16:13] <ikonia> Jack_Sparrow: time waster
[16:13] <andreuu> yes cables arent long enough
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Got it.. thanks
 type it on where? sorry im seriously a newbie here
[16:13] <ikonia> LemonIceTea: no problem, open a terminal (do you know how to do that) and type "ifconfig"
[16:13] <andreuu> mobile rack only just fit from primary
[16:14] <LemonIceTea> alright i'll go try now.thanks ikonia
[16:14] <wols_> andreuu: just fyi, when you add the other harddisks back in you will have to do the grub installation all over again. so put all disks in the way you want it, THEN isntall and configure grub. NOT before
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> andreuu: Save yourself some headache... get a longer cable or move the drive into a diff mount.
[16:14] <onats> anyone here using apt-cacher?
[16:14] <Whitor> Hi, If I have installed the latest git version of compiz-fusion, will auto update try and revert this to the current ubuntu distributed version?
[16:14] <wols_> ikonia: /sbin/ifconfig
[16:14] <ikonia> wols_: he shouldn't need the full path
[16:14] <wols_> Whitor: yes
[16:14] <wols_> Whitor: look at equivs
[16:14] <Whitor> eww
[16:14] <wols_> ikonia: does ubuntu have /sbin on normal user paths?
[16:14] <Whitor> equivs? ... ok
[16:14] <romme> i use laptop mode, and firefox causes my hard drive to spin a lot
[16:14] <ikonia> wols_: think so
[16:14] <ikonia> wols_: never checked
[16:14] <romme> any way to prevent firefox from touching the disk?
[16:15] <ikonia> romme: why would you want that ?
[16:15] <krim> onats: You'll probably get help faster if you just ask what you want to know right away.
[16:15] <danbhfive> Whitor: I dont think autoupdate will revert
[16:15] <romme> ikonia: i want my hard drive to remain standby for most of the time
[16:15] <onats> ok... how do i know if its working? hehehe
[16:15] <rarito> i have installed fedora distribution and i would like install ubuntu distribution without it lose fedora's grub
[16:15] <Jack_Sparrow> romme: How much ram is in the laptop
[16:15] <ikonia> romme: not really then
[16:15] <Whitor> danbhfive: ok. It didn't try to this morning... but I wasn't sure
[16:15] <gcarrillo> is there a way to tell if a package has been updated recently?  I.e. if I wanted to find out if the package management system had updated banshee recently, could I find that out?
[16:15] <rarito> how can i do it?
[16:15]  * onats hungry
[16:15] <danbhfive> Whitor it may overwrite when updates are posted to the repositories...
[16:15] <wols_> Whitor: basically if/when there is a new compiz version in ubuntu it will overwrite your git version
[16:15] <ikonia> rarito: thats not really practical, they are different versions with different patches
[16:16] <romme> Jack_Sparrow: 2gb
[16:16] <ikonia> rarito: it is possible, but ubuntu updates will cause you problems
[16:16] <Whitor> wols_: But shouldn't it version check to see whats installed?
[16:16] <danbhfive> wols_ but thats very different from reverting it, autoupdate doesnt check the files i dont think
[16:16] <danbhfive> it only checks its internal database
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> rarito: If you are wanting to have both fedora and ubuntu, the ubuntu installer should see the other install and add it to it's grub
[16:16] <wols_> Whitor: you didn't use the package management. it only knows what is installed via apt
[16:16] <Whitor> danbhfive: but... if it /is/ checked in synaptic as being installed....
[16:17] <wols_> Whitor: which is why I mentioned equivs: you just create an equivs dummy package for your compou
[16:17] <wols_> *compiz
[16:17] <onats> for apt-cacher, say i do not have access to the apt-cacher server at the moment, but want to upgrade, will i have to change the sources list during these times?
[16:17] <LemonIceTea> ikonia: please guide me to ifconfig (if it is not too much to ask)
[16:17] <rarito> ikonia, Jack_Sparrow, ill try do it with ubuntu's grub
[16:17] <Pici> gcarrillo: you can check the dpkg log in /var/log/dpkg.log
[16:17] <Whitor> wols_: It was installed via synaptic first ... I guess I should uninstall that, then reinstall only via git
[16:17] <wols_> Whitor: the UBUNTU version is installed in synaptic, NOT your git version
[16:17] <gcarrillo> Pici: thank you
[16:17] <Whitor> wols_: of course
[16:17] <andreuu> so if I buy a new HD, i have to do grub all over again ?
[16:17] <andreuu> naah
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[16:17] <ikonia> LemonIceTea: wols waas right type "/sbin/ifconfig"
[16:18] <wols_> Whitor: while this will work with this package such a thing would stop working witha library or such. equivs is the better way
[16:18] <ikonia> wols_: no sbin in path, good call
[16:18] <Whitor> wols_: ok, I'll check it out
[16:18] <wols_> andreuu: only if your boot order in BIOS changes
[16:18] <andreuu> im never changing boot order again
[16:18] <Oli``> Anyone here know how to restart pidgin? It seems to be stuck in a "Cannot connect" loop until I restart the entire system so I figure there's a service running that handles the connections
[16:18] <andreuu> well im going to write it down in a bloody safe place anyway
[16:19] <Whitor> wols_: Thank you
[16:19] <andreuu> anyway that makes sense eh
[16:19] <andreuu> thx wols
[16:20] <juan__> how come sometimes when i bootup i only get 800x600 (or some times 640xblah...) but then other times i get 1024x700 :)
[16:20] <esaunders> we do lan partys Jack...
[16:20] <LemonIceTea> i am not able to locate the sbin/ifconfig
[16:21] <LemonIceTea> wait, maybe i will state down my problem clearly here
[16:21] <Nematocyst> romme, i'd say first figure where and why ff is accessing the disk.  if it turns out to be ~/.mozilla, you could always mount a solidstate drive there
[16:21] <brobostigon> just type ifconfig into cli, and it shoud work.
[16:21] <esaunders> just need lan voice chat..
[16:21] <nny> meh so anyone know what the actual cups drivers packages are for a full install. Still can't get my printer to work, and not really in the mood to do a full reinstall
[16:21] <juan__> anyone wanna help me?
[16:21] <Pici> esaunders: skype?
[16:21] <esaunders> why waste ressources on internet if no need to..
[16:21] <sachi> how can i install gtk files
[16:21] <Pici> esaunders: er, nevermind then
[16:22] <erUSUL> !fixres | juan__
[16:22] <ubotu> juan__: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:22] <LemonIceTea> i just installed ubuntu and it doesnt seem to detect my wireless usb adaptor.
[16:22] <esaunders> gaming Pici..
[16:22] <gcarrillo> does anybody know offhand how to see what libraries a binary is linked against??
[16:22] <Pici> esaunders: ah.
[16:23] <mortal> gcarrillo: ldd
[16:23] <donner> where i can set my mouse ps2 on ubuntu
[16:23] <esaunders> my machine can take the punishment...
[16:23] <donner> ?
[16:23] <andreuu> um also my nec multisync goes into hibenation mode after the inital splash screen and wont come out of it properly unless you wait five minutes after the CD stops spinning
[16:23] <gcarrillo> mortal: thanks i just saw that
[16:23] <Angel> Hello all
[16:23] <sandaru1> !video > sandaru1
[16:23] <andreuu> hey
[16:23] <gcarrillo> $ ldd /usr/bin/banshee        not a dynamic executable
[16:24] <Angel> Do any of you know how to make a trust 5.1 headset works ?
[16:24] <donner>  how to set my mouse
[16:24] <donner> :S
[16:24] <donner> i have problem]
[16:24] <genii> gcarrillo: ldd
[16:24] <juan__> another problem :), when i press ctrl+f1 i see a login..., when i login then type in a command that command box freezes up :)
[16:24] <LemonIceTea> i just installed ubuntu and it doesnt seem to detect my wireless usb adaptor. help please?
[16:24] <donner> where i can set my mouse ?
[16:24] <bulmer> nny  go look under /usr/share/ppd
[16:24] <wols_> LemonIceTea: lsusb
[16:25] <nny> bulmer, found it
[16:25] <brobostigon> lemonicetea, does you wifi adaptor show in dmesg
[16:25] <askand> donner: set your mouse?
[16:25] <wols_> donner: what kind of mouse is it?
[16:25] <donner> logitech
[16:25] <gcarrillo> genii: thanks
[16:25] <nny> bulmer, hpijs is what i was looking for
[16:25] <donner> usb
[16:25] <wols_> donner: I mean how is it attached?
[16:25] <erUSUL> !wifi | LemonIceTea
[16:25] <ubotu> LemonIceTea: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:25] <bulmer> nny-> good work
[16:25] <wols_> donner: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:25] <LemonIceTea> OH THANKS
[16:25] <genii> gcarrillo: So in case of "banshee" the executable has been compiled with static libs
[16:26] <erUSUL> genii: banshee is a mono app (c# managed code...)
[16:26] <giesen> I'm trying to get the icedtea java working with firefox on amd64
[16:27] <giesen> but when I go to several java test pages
[16:27] <erUSUL> genii: ldd just got confused ;)
[16:27] <genii> erUSUL: Ah, that makes sense then
[16:27] <giesen> it's not loading the plugin
[16:27] <giesen> advice?
[16:27] <gcarrillo> genii: do you know of a way to print the static libs it was compiled against?
[16:27] <genii> gcarrillo: Not offhand
[16:27] <gcarrillo> genii: ok, thx
[16:28] <juan__> can i force a res at startup?
[16:28] <juan__> i want 1024x700 it seems to pick a random one at startup....
[16:28] <bulmer> gcarrillo-> try  ldd libxxx.so
[16:29] <erUSUL> juan__: System>Admin>graphics and screen?
[16:29] <donner> tts0 ?
[16:29] <donner> or what ?
[16:29] <donner> to set ?
[16:29] <donner> my logitech?
[16:29] <krim> In GTKPod my 5th generation 80gb Ipod video isn't among the options. Should I use 5 generation 60gb video white or 6 generation 80gb video white?
[16:29] <gcarrillo> bulmer: thx, but im trying to figure out what libraries a statically compiled program is compiled against
[16:29] <gcarrillo> banshee to be specific
[16:29] <juan__> erUSUL, i tried that..., now it just says 800x600, 600x400 but sometimes i get 1024x700....
[16:30] <erUSUL> !enter | donner
[16:30] <ubotu> donner: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:30] <smookerPC1> maybe a stupid question but why evryone is with different color ?
[16:30] <bulmer> gcarrillo-> same command dont tell you which libraries it was compiled againts?  ldd
[16:30] <erUSUL> gcarrillo: as i said to gnii banshee is not statically linked it is a mono (.NET) app and that confuses ldd
[16:30] <gcarrillo> gcarrillo@whitebook:/usr/lib/banshee$ ldd /usr/bin/banshee
[16:30] <gcarrillo>         not a dynamic executable
[16:30] <juan__> ohhh and i cant see the loading bar when booting up
[16:31] <Pici> smookerPC1: Thats probably the way your chat client is setup.
[16:31] <ROMZY> neatza mey lume
[16:31] <erUSUL> gcarrillo: it is like a java app
[16:31] <gcarrillo> erUSUL: oh, sorry I missed that. That makes sense.
[16:31] <wraund> zejosh: ask in  here
[16:31] <smookerPC1> what is my color ?
[16:31] <Pici> smookerPC1: I'm using irssi, so everyone is white.
[16:31] <bazhang_> pink
[16:31] <gcarrillo> oh crazy, .NET is analogous to java?
[16:31] <zejosh> sorted it sam
[16:31] <zejosh> :P
[16:31] <gcarrillo> i never understood that till now
[16:32] <smookerPC1> xD.
[16:32] <bulio> is there any way I can install Windows XP after Ubuntu?
[16:32] <bulmer> gcarrillo-> then try nm
[16:32] <erUSUL> gcarrillo: yes code is conpiled to bytecode than then is executed by a "virtual machine"
[16:33] <gcarrillo> erUSUL: awesome, good explanation
[16:33] <bazhang_> bulio: want a link?
[16:33] <onats> hi, is ubuntu x64 and ubuntu i386 considered as different distributions?
[16:33] <smookerPC1> ehm
[16:33] <brobostigon> bulio: windows first then linux, not the other way round,
[16:33] <Chousuke> onats: not really.
[16:33] <cleaton> !art
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about art - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <cleaton> !artwork
[16:33] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[16:33] <onats> chousuke, so meaning, it will use the same packages?
[16:33] <erUSUL> bulio: you can but after installoing windows you will have to recover grub
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> bulmer: which windows.. XP yes..
[16:34] <Chousuke> onats: if you want to be pedantic, they should be, but they're almost the same in practice.
[16:34] <erUSUL> ubotu tell bulio about grub | bulio see priv msg from ubotu
[16:34] <bazhang_> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu bulio
[16:34] <smookerPC1> is there way to Rebuild Windows Program and make it for Linux ?
[16:34] <brobostigon> bulio windows first then linux is miles easier than the other way round.
[16:34] <LemonIceTea> anyone free for a 1 to 1 questioning on wifi?
[16:34] <Pici> onats: Same packages, just different architectures for them.
[16:34] <Chousuke> onats: x64 uses packages compiled for x64, and i386 uses packages compiled for i386.
[16:34] <bulio> brobostigon, I know
[16:35] <bulio> but I have Ubuntu installed right now, and only need XP for a few programs such as photoshop
[16:35] <Chousuke> onats: some packages are i386 -only though, so there's some disparity.
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> oops.. my bad.. that was for bulio         but yes, Windows first is easier
[16:35] <bazhang_> bulio: check that link
[16:35] <brobostigon> bulio:: have you tried wine??
[16:35] <jarle> After updating to Ubuntu 7.10 kernel 2.6.22 won't boot because of evms being installed and kernel 2.6.20 can't start the nvidia driver. I get "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" Do I need to re-enable support for restricted modules? How do I do this from console?
[16:35] <cleaton> bulio, try vmware?
[16:35] <onats> pici, chousuke, i'm setting up apt-cacher, and i was wondering if it will give me some advantage.. one pc on my machine is on 64 bit, the laptop on 32...
[16:35] <cleaton> or wine
[16:35] <Galdar\Linux> hey, what is the key short cut for switcing between workspaces?
[16:35] <bulio> cleaton, Photoshop and Visual Studio 2008
[16:35] <bulmer> LemonIceTea-> share it here so people can share the ideas and learnin
[16:35] <Pici> Galdar\Linux: ctrl-alt left/right arrow
[16:35] <bulio> not compatible in wine
[16:35] <onats> galdar, ALT+1, ALT+2
[16:35] <rafal> how to set up VT fonts?
[16:36] <cleaton> bulio, then install xp in a vmware or virtualbox or something
[16:36] <onats> oops, wrong
[16:36] <cleaton> ?
[16:36] <zippytech> any one here have an idea what could be uing a drive
[16:36] <onats> galdar, ctrl alt left and right
[16:36] <zippytech> i cannot mount it
[16:36] <Haji> how do i get a inet connection for my pda (synce)?
[16:36] <drc822> hey, im getting core dumped seg faults on some proggies after switching from kde to xfce, anyone have an idea on that?
[16:36] <juan__> http://pastebin.com/d53738f03
[16:36] <zippytech> format or fdisk it
[16:36] <Pici> !grub  | bulio see the link about losing grub after windows
[16:36] <ubotu> bulio see the link about losing grub after windows: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:36] <Galdar\Linux> onats, thanks :D
[16:36] <juan__> that is my pastebin of my xorg.... please help restarting x works but i cant be bothered to do this everytime....
[16:36] <zippytech> but i can boot to live cd and drive works fine
[16:36] <iqon> i'm getting config errors whenever i try running aideinit in gutsy
[16:37] <Angel> could anyone please give the command to get info on a specifical usb device ?
[16:37] <rpj8> Question: When you load a program with a &, what exactly does that do differently?
[16:37] <bulmer> Haji-> what do you mean? you connect your pda to your desktop and browse the internet?
[16:37] <drc822> Angel: lsusb?
[16:37] <Pici> iqon: what is aideinit?
[16:37] <Angel> drc822, i would like to get more info on only a device
[16:37] <Haji> bulmer: I want that my pda has access to the inet. :D
[16:37] <LemonIceTea> ubuntu can not detect my wireless connection.
[16:37] <iqon> initialization script for aide
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> juan__: add refresh rates for your monitor and max res to the resolution section
[16:38] <drc822> Angel: -v?
[16:38] <juan__> Jack_Sparrow,  how?
[16:38] <iqon> aide - Advanced Intrusion Detection Environment
[16:38] <bulmer> Haji-> does it have a wifi nic card on it? does it have an ethernet or serial connection?
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> juan__: Start by looking them up for your hardware
[16:38] <Pici> iqon: have you modified your config? /etc/aide/aide.conf ?
[16:38] <drc822> Angel: lsusb -vD devicefile
[16:38] <iqon> Pici: no
[16:39] <Haji> bulmer: My PDA is connected over USB (is this a serial connection?)
[16:39] <Pici> iqon: chances are it can't work out of the box without doing some config.
[16:39] <Angel> drc822, like lsusb -vD 001 ?
[16:39] <iqon> Pici: in past versions all that has been needed is aideinit
[16:39] <rpj8> Haji: No
[16:39] <rpj8> Haji: Serial is usually referring to the really big connections.
[16:39] <LemonIceTea> ubuntu can not detect my wireless connection.
[16:39] <Angel> drc822, nvm i didn't see that they were more pages in the man
[16:40] <bulmer> Haji-> umm then you have to have an application running on your pda to have internet access, tcpstack n stuff
[16:40] <drc822> Angel: well, like -vD /proc/bus/usb/001/001
[16:40] <Haji> rpj8: :D
[16:40] <drc822> Angel: hehee :)
[16:40] <Angel> thank you drc822
[16:40] <xipietotec> is anyone familiar with enabling the infrared scroll bar on fujitsu notebooks?
[16:40] <onats> whats the major difference with desktop and server edition?
[16:40] <drc822> Angel: np
[16:40] <ikonia> onats: no X11
[16:40] <ikonia> onats: thats the obvious one
[16:40] <Pici> onats: server vs. generic kernel
[16:40] <brobostigon> server edititon doesnt have x
[16:40] <ikonia> Pici: and thats the "real" one
[16:40] <Jack_Sparrow> juan__: You running Fesity? or gutsy?
[16:40] <onats> pici, what do you mean?
[16:41] <juan__> Fesity...
[16:41] <onats> ikonia, ok thanks.. will probably install the desktop as a server.. now that you mentioned X11..
[16:41] <brobostigon> server edition is cli
[16:41] <juan__> i cant upgrade..., last time i did the computer shutdown for no reason.....
[16:41] <ikonia> onats: wise choice
[16:41] <mikealeonetti> I need to make my machine advertise its host name when asking for an IP, it doesn't do that currently
[16:41] <cocox> Does anybody knows what do i have to upgrade or install in order to repair desktop crashing when screensaver appairs in Feisty Fawn?????
[16:41] <cocox> or do you know how  to disable the screensaver from command line, because when i try from the GUI it gets freezed. im getting the idea that maybe something its wrong just with my installation bacause i have the same problem while trying to enable desktop efects and also when i try to play 3D chess i get a message which says that i need this packages OpenGL for Python and bindings GtkGLExt for Python.
[16:41] <mikealeonetti> how can I set that?
[16:41] <Pici> onats: The server version using kernel 2.6.x-server and desktop uses 2.6.x-generic... difference in the options that the kernel was compiled with.
[16:41] <juan__> and screwed up gnome :(
[16:41] <stuart> hm, 7.10 seems kinda slow to me, so how do i disable compiz, and tracker?
[16:41] <stuart> and how do i change my display settings from 24bit to 16?
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> juan__: Not a problem...  I use feisty on this box
[16:42] <onats> pici, i see... i won't be able to tell the difference now...
[16:42] <onats> so its going to be desktop ed.
[16:42] <drc822> stuart: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:42] <juan__> is it just that ***** of a computer since i cant see the boot loader?
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> juan__: Look up your monitor refresh rates online...  and I will help you add them to your xorg
[16:42] <LemonIceTea> ikonia, my 6.06lts doesnt show that i have wireless when i go into the networking
[16:42] <stuart> drc822, thanks
[16:42] <drc822> stuart: there's a default bitdepth line at the end
[16:42] <Haji> bulmer: don't understand that now :D
[16:42] <ikonia> LemonIceTea: what is your wirless card
[16:42] <Pici> onats: Well the most user (not administrator) visible change is that -server doesnt have restricted modules.
[16:42] <drc822> stuart: but i suppose u can do it from the gui too somehow
[16:42] <bulmer> Haji oh well
[16:43] <ikonia> Pici: the key " my wirless doesn't work etc etc"
[16:43] <crzedmonk> hey
[16:43] <brobostigon> lemonicetea, can you manually input your wifi settings and conecte manually??
[16:43] <Pici> ikonia: exactly.
[16:43] <crzedmonk> anyone here know alot about linux kernel?
[16:43] <ikonia> brobostigon: it can't see his card
[16:43] <ikonia> crzedmonk: just ask the question
[16:43] <Galdar\Linux> how can I open a rpm file ubuntu?
[16:43] <drc822> Galdar\Linux: use alien
[16:43] <stuart> drc822, i changed defaultdepth from 24 to 16 under nvidia
[16:43] <drc822> stuart: in xorg.conf?
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Galdar\Linux: ugh   dont
[16:43] <stuart> drc822, yep. will that do the job?
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !alien
[16:43] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[16:44] <crzedmonk> is there a way to setup terminal with no borders so it looks like text running on the desktop?
[16:44] <ikonia> Galdar rpm is meant for redhat based machines, don't use rpm's on ubuntu/debian based systems
[16:44] <Pici> iqon: Take a look at this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aide/+bug/112242
[16:44] <drc822> Galdar\Linux: if u must.. alien can make rpms into debs
[16:44] <Galdar\Linux> well need the driver for ati readon 9200...
[16:44] <susscorfa> hi my gusty laptop shows a black screen after about 15 minutes of inactivity but i put the screen saver to 2 hours anyone a sugestion what can cause this
[16:44] <ikonia> crzedmonk: certain terminals have the "no border" option
[16:44] <Galdar\Linux> and its put in a rpm file
[16:44] <drc822> Galdar\Linux: isnt there an installer on ati's page?
[16:44] <crzedmonk> ubuntu not being one of them?
[16:44] <ikonia> Galdar\Linux: don't use rpm's
[16:44] <rpj8> susscorfa: Check the power management utility.
[16:44] <drc822> Galdar\Linux: like a binary installer.. and u can create ubuntu debs with it
[16:44] <Haji> bulmer: i have configured  /etc/ppp/peers/synce-device hoping this would help me but no change... problem is perhaps that the ipfilter blocks the connection?
[16:44] <Pici> Galdar\Linux: Why not use the ATI restricted driver provided by Ubuntu?
[16:44] <onats> anyone here using a KVM at home? what brand are you guys using?
[16:44] <Galdar\Linux> ohh yeah there was hehe, just be theres stupid xD
[16:45] <Pici> onats: offtopic, try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[16:45] <bulmer> Galdar\Linux-> i suggest look into some tutorial of how to create an rpm package, most likely there is a command to reverse the packaging
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> onats: I have a couple, all have worked
[16:45] <onats> pici, noted
[16:45] <ikonia> onats: I use kvm, I'm using it on a fedora based machine
[16:45] <crzedmonk> ?
[16:45] <ikonia> Pici: does he not mean kvm as in the kernel virtual machine ?
[16:45] <susscorfa> rpj8: all options there are switched to never
[16:45] <drc822> ikonia: and using rpm's isnt that dangerous.. depends on the rpm
[16:45] <Pici> ikonia: I took it as a hardware kvm question
[16:45] <linduxed> wols_: im back
[16:45] <bulmer> Haji-> blocks which?
[16:45] <ikonia> drc822: yes it is dangerous as they will be built against a different host system
[16:45] <rpj8> susscorfa: on battery as well as ac power?
[16:45] <kitche> ikonia: no he means KVM liek a switch
[16:45] <ikonia> Pici: could well be
[16:45] <drc822> ikonia: but if possible it'd be better to build and use checkinstall
[16:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ikonia: Same here
[16:46] <linduxed> wols_: it said that the dvd was hooked up on ide slave
[16:46] <susscorfa> yes both
[16:46] <drc822> ikonia: i never had any problems back in the day
[16:46] <Pici> onats: You did mean kvm as in keyboard/video/mouse, right?
[16:46] <susscorfa> btw i' m on ac
[16:46] <ikonia> drc822: just because you havn't doesn't mean its fine to do
[16:46] <onats> pici, yes i did...
[16:46] <ikonia> Pici: ta
[16:46] <Pici> onats: okay, thats what I though
[16:46] <onats> kvm switch that is
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[16:46] <erUSUL> drc822: if you can discern what rpm's are dangerous and what are not you do not need to ask how to use alien or rpm on ubuntu ;)
[16:46] <drc822> ikonia: and arent they basicly just compressed packages with some info
[16:46] <drc822> erUSUL: i didnt ask
[16:47] <ikonia> drc822: how do you know ? you don't know what's in them
[16:47] <crzedmonk> what is the best windows emulation program?
[16:47] <zero-9376> how can i make search in nautilus work the same way it used to, i tried disabling tracker and even uninstalling but searching in nautilus still doesn't work as it used to, i just want to find png files recursively
[16:47] <Galdar\Linux> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[16:47] <Galdar\Linux> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[16:47] <Galdar\Linux> Select a character coding from the menu and try again
[16:47] <Galdar\Linux> hmm
[16:47] <susscorfa> rpj8: both tabs indeed , btw i am on ac
[16:47] <ikonia> crzedmonk: most people tend to like vmware for virtualisation and wine for "emmulation"
[16:47] <Galdar\Linux> what do I need to do?
[16:47] <drc822> ikonia: yaeh, but u can see whats in them
[16:47] <rpj8> susscorfa: Must be something in the screensave settings that you're missing then, my friend.
[16:47] <ikonia> drc822: your missing the point, but this is offtopic
[16:47] <xipietotec> anyone know how to enable the funky fujitsu touchpad scrollbar?
[16:47] <rpj8> susscorfa: actually, I may have lied
[16:47] <drc822> ikonia: but as i said. its better to get the sources and use watchinstall or whatever
[16:47] <onats> if i setup apt-cacher on a 7.10 machine, will a distro upgrade on another machine be able to use the apt-cacher?
[16:47] <rpj8> susscorfa: have you by any chance searched through ubuntuforums.org yet?
[16:48] <IanLiu> !fixgrub
[16:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[16:48] <Haji> bulmer: I found something in the inet and there it says you have to forward the connection using ip_forward
[16:48] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | onats
[16:48] <ubotu> onats: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[16:48] <susscorfa> did a quick look but dond know any terms to look for rpj8
[16:48] <linduxed> wols_: ?
[16:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ers
[16:48] <bulmer> Haji-> first thing is which device are you referring to? the desktop acting as gateway or your pda?
[16:48] <onats> erusul, thanks.. will look it up
[16:49] <drc822> ikonia: doing gcc or glibc from an rpm is NOT a good idea. but then again, doing pebrot might be
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: How would that be different than just burning /var/cache/apt/archives to a cd or dvd?
[16:49] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: easier for the newbie?
[16:49] <Haji> bulmer: i think the desktop work as a gateway
[16:49] <tomasso> how do i identify which files are the biggest ones to free some disk space
[16:49] <tomasso> ?
[16:49] <crzedmonk> which one in your opinion is better wine or vmware
[16:49] <crzedmonk> >
[16:49] <linduxed> ikonia: care to pick up again on that issue i had earlier
[16:49] <linduxed> ikonia: ?
[16:50] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: For one thing aptoncd produces md5 sums etc
[16:50] <Pici> tomasso: From the cli or gui?
[16:50] <ron_>  here is the error /dev/sdb2 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[16:50] <drc822> crzedmonk:depends on what u use it for
[16:50] <tomasso> Pici, cli ?
[16:50] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: i guess that aptoncd just do this and generates a Packages.gz to make it look like a repo
[16:50] <Haji> bulmer: i connect my pda to the computer and through the computer i want to access the inet
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: Cool, I bookmarked that page for later.. thanks
[16:50] <Pici> tomasso: command line interface?
[16:50] <tomasso> or gui ...
[16:50] <bulmer> Haji-> okay, try with another pc 1st to make the desktop as gateway, as pc's have tools to easily test, as opposed to pda, you have to hunt down tools
[16:50] <Pici> tomasso: graphical user interface
[16:50] <tomasso> yes
[16:51] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: no need to bookmark... ubotu is allways here to tell you... ;P
[16:51] <Pici> tomasso: Applications>Accessories>Disk Usage Analyzer is installed by default I believe.
[16:51] <smartface> Can anyone recommend something to draw 3D diagrams in ubuntu?
[16:51] <bulmer> Haji-> once you confirmed that the desktop is acting as a good router/gateway then work on the pda portion next
[16:51] <tomasso> Pici, yess
[16:51] <ikonia> linduxed: what problem was it, please refresh me
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: NOt if I cant remember the trigger, I am getting old
[16:51] <bulmer> smartface umm inkscape and gimp?
[16:52] <smartface> bulmer-> nothing similar to AutoCAD?
[16:52] <erUSUL> smartface: OO.org draw? inkscape? dia?
[16:52] <wols_> linduxed: if the livecd can see the dvd but the hdd install can't it's most likely a kernel version issue
[16:52] <erUSUL> smartface: qcad is 2D only
[16:52] <drc822> smartface: there was this free soft called 4dcad or something
[16:52] <smartface> thanks, ill look for it
[16:52] <linduxed> ikonia: cant use dvd after booting with grub
[16:52] <drc822> smartface: never tried it. just heard about it
[16:52] <Haji> bulmer: is there no easier solution. something like "forward the connection from my pda to the inet"? (have this from a tutorial for gentoo: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE)
[16:52] <linduxed> wols_: any solution on that?
[16:53] <Angel> i'm gonna get mad... my new 5.1 headset does'nt work with ubuntu or with my mac but only with this damn windows grmbl
[16:53] <drc822> linduxed: what dvd-drive is it?
[16:53] <wols_> linduxed: use the proper kernel
[16:53] <smookerPC1> someone know good Audio CD Burner ?
[16:53] <smartface> Thanks guys, Ubuntu forums saved me once again though :)
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !k3b
[16:53] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[16:53] <drc822> linduxed: and did u compile a new kernel or are u using the vanilla from the install?
[16:53] <bulmer> Haji-> you have the correct app running on your pda to do tcp/ip ?
[16:53] <wols_> smookerPC1: plextor usually
[16:53] <drc822> smartface: ofcourse there's also blender :)
[16:54] <drc822> smartface: but thats more 3d-gfx than cad
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_: yea, plextor sata here...
[16:54] <ikonia> linduxed: it's nothing to do with ubuntu. Check you machine bios
[16:54] <linduxed> drc822: i just installed the 64-bit gutsy
[16:54] <smartface> I went for CYCAS, looks good
[16:54] <bulmer> Haji-> there are two sides, one on the desktop adn the other is on the pda..
[16:54] <Angel> i'm going back to windows only to get my headset working... what a shame
[16:54] <drc822> linduxed: so the live-cd sees ur dvd?
[16:54] <ikonia> Angel: enjoy
[16:54] <drc822> eh
[16:54] <bazhang_> heh
[16:55] <shishirmk> hey how to configure my infrared usb dongle in ubuntu?
[16:55] <linduxed> drc822: yeah if i boot a livecd BEFORE getting grub to run everything works
[16:55] <ikonia> shishirmk: look at lirc
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Angel: Using Windows will cost you more that a new headset
[16:55] <drc822> linduxed: try booting the livecd and use lsmod to see what modules are loaded..
[16:55] <drc822> linduxed: could be that the actuall install doesnt load the modules needed.. dont know
[16:55] <linduxed> drc822: nonon
[16:55] <wols_> linduxed: you've been told before. grub doesn't have anything to do with it
[16:55] <drc822> linduxed: ?
[16:55] <nomojob> Need Help:  I am trying to configure a Dual Boot with two seperate hard drives.   My master drive has Ubuntu and the slave has XP.  At the GRUB menu, when I choose XP, it says this:  Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format.  And then it makes me press any key and takes me back to the menu.  Any Idea how to fix this?
[16:56] <macBignose> greets. i'd like to install the equivilent to a LAMP install, but after the normal install is finished, is there a place where i can get a list of the steps that happen when LAMP is chosen during install ?
[16:56] <drc822> linduxed: that sounds like a kernel problem .. or kernel module problem
[16:56] <linduxed> drc822: the drive doesnt work in windows either if i boot with grub
[16:56] <ikonia> nomojob: boot into ubuntu and check the config of the boot options in /boor/grub/menu.lst
[16:56] <drc822> linduxed: aaa
[16:56] <Haji> bulmer: you know how active sync works under windows? something like that would be grait...
[16:56] <kitche> !lamp | macBignose
[16:56] <ubotu> macBignose: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:56] <drc822> linduxed: try some grub parameters then.. there are a lot of em.. irqpoll, ide=nodma and what not
[16:57] <ikonia> drc822: its nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:57] <Pici> macBignose: this command will tell you what exact packages are installed in the lamp install: tasksel --task-packages lamp-server
[16:57] <John_R> you are better off IMO setting up a debian lamp. less footprint, less overhead
[16:57] <drc822> linduxed: i had a similar problem while installing gentoo on a laptop
[16:57] <smookerPC1> but i dont see plextor at the Synaptic..
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> linduxed: F6   then noapic works for me..
[16:57] <bulmer> Haji-> i dont have a pda anymore, i broke the lcd...hehe so cant say how they work
[16:57] <macBignose> Pici: thanks.
[16:57] <ikonia> drc822: he's saying that if he has gurb on a hard disk he can't boot from a cdrom
[16:57] <ikonia> drc822: ubuntu is not even booting at that point
[16:57] <Jack_Sparrow> smookerPC1: that is HARDWARE... K3b is the app
[16:57] <Pici> macBignose: sudo tasksel lamp-server to install it as well.
[16:57] <drc822> ikonia: i thought he said that the dvdrom doesnt work
[16:57] <linduxed> wols_: if you say so i believe you....i just find it strange that the drives work with winloader, work if i use livecd...but not with grub (on both windows AND linux, any distro)
[16:57] <macBignose> Pici: yes of course ;)
[16:57] <wols_> linduxed: what laptop is this? make model?
[16:57] <ikonia> drc822: correct, his dvd rom doesn't work at all
[16:57] <bulmer> Haji-> one thing i learned, never put them pda in backpockets...lol
[16:57] <drc822> ikonia: in ubuntu nor windows
[16:57] <macBignose> tho i've never heard of tasksel ;) but i'll man it and go from there.
[16:57] <Haji> bulmer: O.o :D
[16:58] <ikonia> drc822: not when he has grub on his hard disk
[16:58] <drc822> ikonia: so, it could be a dma/irq problem
[16:58] <smookerPC1> i cant write .mp3's to audio cd with K3b
[16:58] <linduxed> wols_: zepto 6625wd
[16:58] <drc822> ikonia: yeah, iknow.. i had a similar problem
[16:58] <linduxed> Jack_Sparrow: what was apic again?
[16:58] <drc822> ikonia: and got it to work with irqpoll option in grub
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> smookerPC1: I thought for sure I had..
[16:58] <nomojob> ikonia: both OSes have (hd0,0).  Is this correct?
[16:58] <Haji> is synce developed any further?
[16:58] <ikonia> drc822: it can't be, as he's not even booting ubuntu, so it can't be a kernel parameter
[16:58] <erUSUL> smookerPC1: k3b-mp3 or something like that is needed
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> linduxed: something like adv prog int controller
[16:58] <ikonia> nomojob: for what ?
[16:59] <drc822> ikonia: the windows part i do not know tho..
[16:59] <smookerPC1> okay ill search
[16:59] <ikonia> nomojob: for the root option in grub ?
[16:59] <ts_> how am I able to prevent linux from writing to my ntfs windows disk?.. Just incase I DD over it, for example. Thanks
[16:59] <ikonia> ts_: mount it read only
[16:59] <smookerPC1> i can use all Kubuntu apps on Ubuntu ?
[16:59] <drc822> linduxed: try checking ur bios options once more
[16:59] <shishirmk>  ikonia: i want to connect it to my mobile
[16:59] <shinkamui> anyone have the 3945 intel wireless chipset in their laptop?
[16:59] <tonyyarusso> smookerPC1: yes
[16:59] <ts_> ikonia:  and how do I do this
[16:59] <drc822> smookerPC1: yes..
[16:59] <shishirmk> how do i use lirc?
[16:59] <shinkamui> Im getting aweful performance out of it
[16:59] <ikonia> ts_: mount -o ro
[16:59] <drc822> smookerPC1: u need to install gtk and whatnot libraries tho
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> smookerPC1: I would never say all.... but virtually all..
[17:00] <karmacoma> Does anyone here know of a good security\network auditing oriented ubuntu based distro?
[17:00] <ikonia> karmacoma: tripwire
[17:00] <ts_> ikonia:  is there not a batch file i can create so i can click it and then it goes to write able, and another batch file so i can click it for read only?
[17:00] <nomojob> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46704/
[17:00] <ikonia> karmacoma: snoop
[17:00] <ikonia> ts_: you can write one
[17:00] <linduxed> drc822: any tips on what i should look for?
[17:00] <wols_> linduxed: dmesg boot output
[17:00] <drc822> linduxed: depends on ur box settings.. are all ur drives ide?
[17:00] <ikonia> nomojob: thats fine
[17:00] <bulmer> karmacoma-> is that same a SELINUX enabled linux?
[17:01] <karmacoma> ikona: thanks, i'll check them out...any thoughts on protech?
[17:01] <drc822> linduxed: just try to get the bios to see ur dvd-drive
[17:01] <ikonia> nomojob: no its not
[17:01] <nomojob> ikonia: shouldnt one of them be (hd1,0) ?
[17:01] <wols_> ts_: what version of ubuntu do you run?
[17:01] <Haji> does somebody know why i cant write that: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" into the file? even when i'm root?
[17:01] <ikonia> nomojob: thats not how windows is configured
[17:01] <ikonia> must dash
[17:01] <linduxed> wols_: procedure on dmesg?
[17:01] <rodpod> Haji, enable it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[17:01] <bulmer> Haji-> you can cat that file first and see if it exist?
[17:02] <ts_> wols_:  7.10
[17:02] <Haji> rodpod: how? bulmer: what? :D
[17:02] <wols_> linduxed: man dmesg
[17:02] <linduxed> drc822: the drive is ide, and as i can use the drive in all situations except for grub boot.....
[17:02] <drc822> linduxed: what do u mean grub boot?
[17:02] <bulmer> Haji-> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[17:02] <Pici> !away > Alyxander|Away (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:02] <rodpod> Haji: uncomment the line that has the ip_forward
[17:03] <bulmer> Haji-> and per rodpod, thats to make it permanent
[17:03] <drc822> linduxed: u mean u want to boot from a cd but grub boots from the hdd?
[17:03] <monchevique> did anyone can install ipodlinux?
[17:03] <Haji> rodpod: and now, how do i make that? (i'm a noob... so i dont understand that easy...:D)
[17:04] <nomojob> ikonia: do you know how it is supposed to be configured?
[17:04] <Haji> bulmer: it replys "1" :D this cat thing
[17:04] <karmacoma> Is anyone familliar with the protech distro? (Ubuntu based)
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> monchevique: Is there also a gtkpod or something
[17:04] <bulmer> Haji-> if it replied 1, it meants it is set
[17:04] <linduxed> drc822: no i mean that there is absolutely no prob with the drives
[17:04] <linduxed> drc822: the only problem is
[17:05] <linduxed> drc822: that if i load ANY system with GRUB SPECIFICALLY
[17:05] <Haji> bulmer: ... good... so it worked after all :D and now, how do i make this permanent?
[17:05] <linduxed> drc822: then the drive cant be seen
[17:05] <drc822> in that system? meaning windows or ubunt?
[17:05] <nomojob>  Need Help:  I am trying to configure a Dual Boot with two seperate hard drives.   My master drive has Ubuntu and the slave has XP.  At the GRUB menu, when I choose XP, it says this:  Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format.  And then it makes me press any key and takes me back to the menu.  Any Idea how to fix this?
[17:05] <Pici> !enter
[17:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:05] <bulmer> Haji-> scroll back and see rodpod suggestion
[17:06] <lusepuster_> A recent install of another OS at a second partition messed up my fstab. I got it all to work, but SWAP is not enabled. Of course I want my swap enabled - what should it say in my fstab?
[17:06] <jarle> is it possible to mount an evms partition without having evms installed? I have a partition called /dev/evms/lvm2/store/video (so I guess it should have some similarity to lvm2, and that I might be able to mount it as long as I have lvm2 installed?
[17:06] <Haji> bulmer: ... sorry don't know how to do that... :( like i sad ... n00b Open it in gedit?
[17:06] <tomasso> is there any backup tool to backup stuff in DVDs ?
[17:06] <lusepuster_> It has the right UUID since it works when I run swapon
[17:06] <tomasso> DVDs in serie
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> nomojob: Try the super grub repair cd.. Windows really hates being on the second drive...  Did it ever work there.. or did you add a drive for UB and move the windows install to the secondary drive
[17:07] <bulmer> Haji-> as gkedit i think to open and modify it as root
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit ...
[17:07] <superman> hello i need your help i have a big error i will start my ubuntu gutsy pc but than this error comes: Booting 'Ubuntu Box' root (hd0,0) Error 22: No such partition Press any key to continnue
[17:08] <nomojob> Jack_Sparrow: I put Ubuntu on my second drive, but then made it to be the master.  I have not been able to start XP since I installed Ubuntu
[17:08] <Pici> tomasso: dvd:rip and something else  I can't remember
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> nomojob: exactly my point.. :)
[17:08] <Haji> bulmer: so now (after sudo gedit (...)) i got a empty document...
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> K9copy
[17:08] <tomasso> Pici,  thanx
[17:08] <DG19075> has his Windows set up in a seconary drive with no probs
[17:08] <nomojob> Jack_Sparrow: what needs to be done then?
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> nomojob: Put the windows drive back as master, format the second drive, then boot livecd and reinstall
[17:09] <superman> help me please
[17:09] <superman> i need my pc
[17:09] <bulmer> Haji->  then have this one entry     net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[17:09] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: a typical swap line looks like this UUID=<actual-UUID>       none    swap    sw        0       0
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> superman: Welcome...  we need more info.. were you trying to dual boot?
[17:10] <nomojob> Jack_Sparrow: it seems there should be a simpler way to do it.  Cant I somehow just get GRUB to locate XP in the other drive?
[17:10] <linduxed> ill try f6 nopic for now and see if that works
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Haji: Please do NOT sudo gedit   bad bad mojo
[17:10] <lusepuster_> erUSUL that seems correct - none the less, I have to run swapon manually to have swapon -s show me anything
[17:10] <drc822> whats wrong with sudo gedit?
[17:10] <Haji> bulmer: what is that?: net/ipv4/ip_forward=1
[17:10] <Haji> Jack_Sparrow: why that?
[17:10] <bulmer> Haji yep thats the line
[17:10] <superman> ok which info do you need
[17:11] <superman> i have 2 hard drive on my pc one is for suse and the other one ist for ubuntu
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Haji: Use gksudo for gui apps
[17:11] <geefinator> ok, so I used a dark theme for a while and now Firefox and some other programs will not change the color scheme, I am stuck with a black background.  Any Ideas?
[17:11] <Haji> bulmer: that SHOULD be the line? lol there is nothing :D i just write that in there :D
[17:11] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: whats the difference?
[17:11] <bulmer> Haji-> but there are additional things you have to configure, have to set an ip address to the pda and such
[17:11] <Haji> Jack_Sparrow: thx but why?
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> drc822: sodu gedit can really mess up permissions
[17:11] <wols_> superman: which partiton is where gutsy is installed?
[17:11] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: how so?
[17:12] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: that's weird in theory one of the init scripts do a swpon -a during boot thus activatin all swap listed in /etc/fstab
[17:12] <superman> my litle one:)
[17:12] <smookerPC1> How do i setup my Ubuntu to show Cyrylic symbols ?
[17:12] <nomojob> Jack_Sparrow: any thoughts on my last comment?
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> drc822: You can google it up.. but I dont have time to discuss it...
[17:12] <gellioth> I have troubles with my splash screen, I think that is the refresh, where I can modify it?
[17:12] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: very well
[17:12] <wols_> superman: have fun joking. good day
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> nomojob: I told you the easiest and best way to fix it
[17:12] <Haji> bulmer: still hanging on ip_forward... cannot write anything into the file...
[17:13] <geefinator> ok, so I used a dark theme for a while and now Firefox and some other programs will not change the color scheme, I am stuck with a black background.  Any Ideas?
[17:13] <bulmer> Haji->  which file?
[17:13] <Haji> bulmer: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> geefinator: I think you can change the screen color for firefox and not have it use the theme color
[17:14] <gellioth> some ideas to the splashscreen?
[17:14] <lusepuster_> erUSUL: Uhm, I'm embarassed to admit that it seems the correct UUID was not listed in my fstab anyway - just took it that gparted would complain if the right UUID wasn't listed in fstab, but that was obviously not true
[17:14] <dbe> How many keys does a swedish keyboard have?
[17:14] <bulmer> Haji-> that is a psuedo file really...anyhow, you echo'ed it and it is set to 1..so its okay
[17:14] <lusepuster_> erUSUL I apologize...
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> geefinator: Dont ask, I did it for my niece once. COuld not do it again without just looking around
[17:14] <bulmer> Haji-> but there are additional things you have to configure, have to set an ip address to the pda and such <-- this you have to take off also
[17:14] <geefinator> Jack_Sparrow, I have tried everything I can think of, it ignores the color scheme from KDE completely, I have wiped the config directory...it is so annoying, cause now my text editor has a black background as well.
[17:15] <eses> greeting has anyone used DSL? Damn Small Linux?
[17:15] <Haji> bulmer: lol okey... so how do i configure that?
[17:15] <flokuehn> hi. may anybody please tell what i have to install if i want to write some java apps?
[17:15] <dbe> I counted 105
[17:15] <gellioth> what you want? (DSL)
[17:15] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: no problem (who is not confued by that long uuid's anyway ;P)
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> geefinator: Sorry, gnome here.. as in Ubuntu.. Kde, Kubuntu .. no idea how
[17:15] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: seems to be a valid point. thanx didnt know the different configfile thingies
[17:15] <eses> is DSL any good?
[17:16] <erUSUL> flokuehn: sun-java6-jdk ???
[17:16] <geefinator> Jack_Sparrow, yeah if gnome worked for me I would use it.
[17:16] <bulmer> Haji-> read that tutorial you were looking at earlier, continue on
[17:16] <flokuehn> erUSUL: dont works.
[17:16] <geefinator> Jack_Sparrow, thanks anyways :)
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> drc822: thanks for taking the time to read that
[17:16] <lusepuster_> erUSUL yep - why is it that they chose to go with UUIDs? It was a *mess* after installing Zenwalk on my extra partition
[17:16] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: every time
[17:16] <Haji> bulmer: that tutorial is written for gentoo... is gentoo much different to ubuntu?
[17:16] <flokuehn> erUSUL: i will try another time
[17:16] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: i've actually never used kdesu or gksudo
[17:16] <erUSUL> !uuid | lusepuster_
[17:16] <ubotu> lusepuster_: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> drc822: Bet you will now
[17:17] <erUSUL> !java | flokuehn
[17:17] <ubotu> flokuehn: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[17:17] <nomojob> Jack_Sparrow: I had similar issues when I first installed Ubuntu, only it was Error 21, and someone told me to make Ubuntu the master.  I originally installed Ubuntu the way you mentioned and it didnt work.  I can ask someone else if you are unsure of any other solution.
[17:17] <flokuehn> erUSUL: ok i dont know why but now it works. thank you anyway.
[17:17] <lusepuster_> erUSUL: Since the Zenwalk installer along with the SUSE one for some reason assign completely new UUIDs
[17:17] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: well, i actually dont use graphical clients as a root
[17:17] <bulmer> Haji-> not much i dont think, but go and find thats ubuntu friendly flavor to ease your anxieties
[17:17] <drc822> Jack_Sparrow: atleast i cant think of any atm
[17:17] <erUSUL> flokuehn: no problem
[17:17] <lusepuster_> erUSUL: thanks, but luckily I know blkid - that's how I found out
[17:18] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: anytime you modify parttions they get a new uuid (it is like a md5 of a file)
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> nomojob: I suggested super grub repair...  Fixing the base issue of putting things back..  if ubuntu didnt work when you installed to the second drive with windows working then you installed grub to the wrong mbr or partition
[17:18] <twager> Anyone using compiz exploding icons ?
[17:18] <lusepuster_> erUSUL: Oh, that's good to know! Except, I only modified one partition and the SUSE7Zenwalk installers assigned new UUIDs to *all* partitions
[17:19] <Haji> bulmer: it wont work :(
[17:19] <freak124> I was wondering, is there any way I can let the fat32 partition that is shared between windows and ubuntu mount automaticaly when I start up instead of mounting it manualy every time
[17:19] <brobostigon> hi
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> freak124: Sure
[17:20] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: well th thing is anytime you edit the partition table on a disk all uuids are recomputed afaics
[17:20] <drc822> freak124: edit /etc/fstab
[17:20] <lusepuster_> brobostigon, you have a question?
[17:20] <brobostigon> i am here to help other people, not to help myself.
[17:20] <lusepuster_> erUSUL, okay... probably good for distributors, but a pain in the behind for dual booters...
[17:20] <bulmer> Haji-> what would not work?
[17:21] <genii> erUSUL: Yes, thats been my experience. repartitioning alters all the uuids
[17:21] <erUSUL> freak124: add it to your fstab
[17:21] <Haji> bulmer: echo "/usr/bin/echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" >> /etc/conf.d/local.start
[17:21] <Haji> bash: /etc/conf.d/local.start: No such file or directory
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> lusepuster_: uuid should not change between distros.. that seems odd that zen would show something different
[17:21] <freak124> drc822: it says something about no mailcap rules found
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> lusepuster_: all uuids on the same drive... ok.. my bad
[17:22] <bulmer> Haji-> the >> is to append to an existing file, if it doesnt exist you get an error
[17:22] <Haji> bulmer: i get that part.. so gentoo is different after all :D
[17:22] <drc822> freak124: says that on what?
[17:23] <freak124> sudo edit /etc/fstab
[17:23] <brobostigon> gentoo installs from source i think, no from pre compiled packages??
[17:23] <bulmer> Haji yes they are a different beast..hehe
[17:23] <lusepuster_> Jack_Sparrow, yep, exactly. Means we manually have to edit fstab on Ubuntu after every time a new dist is installed - with pen and pencil the only means of "copy and paste"
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> freak124: sudo nano or gksudo gedit
[17:23] <freak124> nvm, I did it via nautilus
[17:24] <Haji> bulmer: i get it to work... soner or later... :)
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lusepuster_: But isnt that only if you add or change a partition
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> freak124: Please avoid sudo nautilus
[17:24] <bulmer> Haji-> thats the spirit, persistence..kool man..keep on going
[17:24] <freak124> Jack_Sparrow: why?
[17:25] <lusepuster_> Jack_Sparrow, obviously not, I only tinkered with one partition (and supposedly the SWAP too), but all partitions on that drive get new UUIDs, at least with these two distros
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> freak124: GUI apps need gksudo nautilus and you really want to avoid running nautilus as root...
[17:25] <Haji> bulmer: don't EVER downgrade to Windows !!! :D tux for ever :)
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> lusepuster_: my point exactly.. you did tinker with a partition
[17:25] <OldPink> Feisty running fine on here, trying to fresh install Gutsy. Each time I get to the "import user settings" it freezes
[17:26] <_6StringKng_> Haji: TUX FOREVER!!!
[17:26] <genii> freak124: Because the gksudo for gnome which allows gui apps to run temporarily as root is smarter than the command-line sudo which will often overwrite user owned files with some owned after by root making apps inaccessible
[17:26] <nomojob> Jack_Sparrow: thank you.
[17:26] <Haji> :D
[17:26] <deathblooms> Hey, what channel do i need to connect to.  if i have video problems
[17:26] <freak124> ow, didn't know that, I will keep it in mind
[17:26] <_6StringKng_> deathblooms: ask in here
[17:26] <juaco> hello, need a little help with the apache daemon
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lusepuster_: and there should be no need to pencil it down.. you should be able to send the info over email, or on a shared partition or on usb even
[17:27] <lusepuster_> erUSUL, Jack_Sparrow : thanks for your help, I'll try and reboot and see if it mounts automagically now
[17:27] <deathblooms> I have an Ati 1650 pro. And i cant find proper drivers for it. When i try envy and i get the blue screen. saying my xconfig is messed up
[17:27] <OldPink> Feisty running fine on here, trying to fresh install Gutsy. Each time I get to the "import user settings" it freezes. Any way I can make it skip the import and just create a new account?
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> deathblooms: you can start with our link for Resolution issues..
[17:27] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: no problem
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[17:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:27] <juaco> why do i have eight instances of apache, even while it is idle?
[17:27] <tds5016> can someone help me get 3d-windows plugin for compiz installed?
[17:28] <tds5016> or even where I can download it?
[17:28] <juaco> is there any way to reduce the number of instances?
[17:28] <hardware-Rks> I have blueman version .3..   Totem and Rythm box work great through my headset..   However I need to play dvr-ms files...  VLC player plays them but will not work with my headset..   The output filter only shows Default or the physical hardware card..  Any Ideas on how to make VLC player work with a headset?
[17:28] <lusepuster_> Jack_Sparrow, yeah I see I could maybe edit it from SUSE/Zenwalk, if I were a little bit clever.
[17:28] <bulmer> juaco-> they are threads?  each connection also spawn a new thread ?
[17:28] <Jack_Sparrow> lusepuster_: easier than you might think
[17:28] <Haji> bulmer: thanks for the help so far
[17:28] <juaco> mm i'm checking
[17:28] <twager> !compiz
[17:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[17:29] <bulmer> Haji-> no problemo, just google for a ubuntu flavor of sharing the network so it will be easier for you to follow
[17:30] <erUSUL> OldPink: i skipped the import just didn't select any user on the import stage of install iirc
[17:30] <OldPink> erUSUL: Can't skip, it actually freezes when trying to search for accounts
[17:30] <xinaesthete>  I've been trying to configure my mouse buttons properly.  I managed it before, several months ago on a different computer with the same mouse.  I've specified it as having "Buttons" "7" in xorg.conf.  When I run xev, it is apparent that buttons 6 & 7 (back & forward) are sending events on button 2 & 3 for some reason.
[17:31] <juaco> bulmer, making a conecction apparently spawns new instances, i had one extra when tried to access my site
[17:31] <isi> german???
[17:31] <wols_> !de
[17:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:31] <maxiounet> !fr
[17:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:32] <erUSUL> OldPink: i see... maybe your only option is to install with the alternate cd?
[17:32] <OldPink> Don't really want to download 700Mb :|
[17:33] <skold> hey I've got a big text file and need to write a colon behind every line. how can i do that effectively?
[17:33] <YeTr2_> skold: sed
[17:33] <erUSUL> OldPink: if your old home is on other disk disconnect it?
[17:33] <OldPink> erUSUL: It's not :P
[17:33] <scriptha> can I start irssi in screen on login and if yes how?
[17:34] <ts_> How do I dd a harddrve, but only extract the cloned partition?
[17:34] <dan__> Hi. I've just upgraded to 4.10 and now I can't seem to be able to play e.g. XMMS + VLC at the same time because it says the soundcard is busy.. How come there was no problem before and how can I get it to work as it used to?
[17:34] <YeTr2_> scriptha: `echo "irssi" >> ~/.bash_profile` for console logins
[17:34] <YeTr2_> scriptha: wait, in screen.
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> ts_: Look at the tutorial on dd for backup in here
[17:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup
[17:34] <erUSUL> scriptha: call the terminal with "-e screen" on the session starup programs. in your screenrc configure a window with irssi
[17:34] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[17:35] <sachi> guys how can i install theme in ubuntu
[17:35] <Pici> scriptha: `screen irssi`
[17:35] <drc822> dan__: suppose its an issue with the sound engine
[17:35] <Pici> !theme > sachi (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:35] <scriptha> ok thanks
[17:35] <YeTr2_> scriptha: man screen, find the option in screen to create a screen session and launch irssi, then create a script that will check for previous screen sessions before trying to launch another session.
[17:36] <bulmer> juaco-> yes, thats to make the webserver faster
[17:36] <sachi> is there also a guide how to install them right
[17:36] <dan__> drc822: yes.. but what is the difference between 7.10 and 7.04 that makes this happen?
[17:36] <drc822> dan__: i have no idea
[17:36] <drc822> dan__: see what engine vlc and xmms use
[17:37] <neozen> a question... what's the average turn around time on a bug reported on software in ubuntu?
[17:37] <scriptha> YeTr2_, I'll just execute 'screen irssi' on login =)
[17:37] <drc822> dan__: they complain if the other is on, even tho only one is playing?
[17:37] <dan__> drc822: I've tried different combinations of OSS and ALSA..
[17:37] <drc822> dan__: i mean the sound engine.. ie xine
[17:37] <drc822> and whatnot
[17:37] <YeTr2_> scriptha: but then you'll create more screen sessions each time with more irssi instances running ..
[17:37] <erUSUL> neozen: depends on what package (if its in main or universe) and the severity of the bug...
[17:37] <dan__> drc822: I don't know, how do I check that?
[17:37] <juaco> bulmer: i see, would be some way to configure less instances tho?
[17:37] <drc822> dan__: i really dont know :)
[17:37] <neozen> filed a bug last week on yarssr, haven't received anything on it....
[17:38] <drc822> dan__: xmms has a prefs dialog?
[17:38] <scriptha> YeTr2_, I'm not going to login more than once
[17:38] <bulmer> juaco-> thats by design..you want your webserver to act slowly?
[17:38] <dan__> drc822: yes
[17:38] <erUSUL> neozen: i waited two releses to see firehol run again on my system... :(
[17:38] <scriptha> YeTr2_, and I can't script in a language capable of that
[17:38] <drc822> see there then
[17:38] <YeTr2_> scriptha: bash
[17:38] <bulmer> juaco-> btw its not an instance..its just a light thread spawned
[17:38] <neozen> erUSUL: let me guess... they don't even bother forwarding bug reports on to the creators of the software / patch that broke something...
[17:38] <juaco> it's a personal webserver, mainly for me, i wouldn't mind if it's not light fast
[17:38] <smookerPC1> what is the process name of Adept Manager ?
[17:39] <scriptha> YeTr2_, yea I can't use that >.<
[17:39] <Jack_Sparrow> neozen: has a lot to do with the program , the error, severity and if the problem can be duplicated on another machine
[17:39] <wols_> smookerPC1: probably adept
[17:39] <smookerPC1> its not adept
[17:39] <bulmer> juaco->  dont worry, those do not take up much resources..the designers am sure have taken that into considerations
[17:39] <sachi> how to install this theme now
[17:39] <grindcore_> hi all
[17:39] <smookerPC1> sudo adept not work
[17:39] <neozen> ah... well... isn't that severe.... just that they patched a security hole in it.... and the patch broke the actual functional use of the program
[17:39] <erUSUL> neozen: no they didn't bother to import the patch that appeared upstream into the deb package.
[17:39] <bulmer> juaco-> there are also other webservers that are much slower..want to use those?
[17:40] <lusepuster_> erUSUL, Jack_Sparrow : Just wanted to say thanks again, it works fine now!
[17:40] <YeTr2_> scriptha: screen creates a file in /var/run/screen/ use an if statement to check for the file/folder in there, and if it exists, just screen -r, else, screen irssi
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[17:40] <erUSUL> lusepuster_: yw
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> ers
[17:40] <juaco> bulmer, lol, it's not about to win the "lower speed server" price either know what i mean
[17:40] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! A quick question.  I was told that there is a tool for indexing files under linux.  i use locate32 in my windows but i guess it is originally from linux .
[17:40] <ferent> hi
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> erUSUL: I hate it when I cant even remember his proble, or question...
[17:40] <lazarus_lupine> slocate?
[17:40] <bulmer> juaco-> well then dont worry about it, its not taking up that much of a resource
[17:41] <K_Dallas> lazarus_lupine, ok, does it run as a service too
[17:41] <grindcore_> i just slide in ubuntu i386 7.10 and i want to install it. there is no graphic installing - i have just there install in text mode, oem install,...
[17:41] <erUSUL> Jack_Sparrow: something about swap... ;P
[17:41] <neozen> erUSUL: ...ubuntu package maintainers _didn't_ import the upstream patch? details on the update for yarssr said they did....
[17:41] <ferent> I'm doing a shell script and I want to know if a number is bigger than other, I do if [ $lineas>=30000 ]
[17:41] <ferent> then
[17:41] <ferent> echo $lineas
[17:41] <juaco> bulmer: ok thx much buddy
[17:41] <ferent> but there is something wrong
[17:41] <_Dbug_> Hi. Display question. I have a laptop with a S3 Savage 4 Twister chipset, correctly detected, with a 1024x768 display, also correctly detected. I have an external screen, 1280x1024 that I wanted to use on it, but when I enable the resolution, all I get is a virtual screen 1280x1024 displayed at the original 1024x768 resolution. Is there a solution at this problem ?
[17:41] <scriptha> YeTr2_, I'll use another language for it
[17:41] <neozen> erUSUL: am tempted to patch the darn thing myself if I knew what broke...
[17:41] <lazarus_lupine> can't remember but its part of any standard linux install
[17:41] <dcesiel> Hey guys something is really bogging down my ubuntu system and im not sure what it is, can someone help me
[17:41] <bulmer> K_Dallas-> there is a google indexing you can install on your system,...i dont know if it sends your info out after the indexing..hehe
[17:41] <wols_> K_Dallas: locate and updatedb. installed on ubuntu by default
[17:41] <deathblooms> yea i aint haveing no luck with these ati drivers
[17:41] <opilane> hi, is there a way to forbid using gnome-background-properties
[17:42] <Pici> ferent: `man test` I believe the syntax is if [$lineas -gt 30000]
[17:42] <wols_> K_Dallas: it only indexes filenames tho
[17:42] <MrBL> hi ubunteros
[17:42] <wols_> deathblooms: what errors?
[17:42] <erUSUL> neozen: yes in the case of firehol that's what happened. In their defense i have to say that workarounds were aviable to make firehol work...
[17:42] <lazarus_lupine> yeah just names
[17:42] <flokuehn> !java
[17:42] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[17:42] <K_Dallas> bulmer, i am not going to trust google ;)
[17:42] <ferent> ok Pici
[17:42] <deathblooms> blue screen xserver messed up
[17:42] <K_Dallas> wols_, that is enough for me, thank you
[17:42] <grindcore_> can someone help me a bit with install ubuntu ?
[17:42] <erUSUL> K_Dallas: in ubuntu you have tracker to index files on older version beagle was installed instead of tracker
[17:42] <sachi> why my laptop works slow now i just changed the desktop background
[17:42] <skold> anyone with a good knwoledge of sed here: i want to make a colon at every line and of a textfile, how would i do that?
[17:42] <wols_> grindcore_: which CD did you download?
[17:43] <dcesiel> Could someone help me figure out what is slowing ubuntu down?
[17:43] <sachi> i have the same quesstion
[17:43] <grindcore_> wols_ 7.10 i386
[17:43] <MrBL> I have a problem with phpmyadmin (appears blank when I try to access it through FF). Did anyone have the same issue? (Gutsy64)
[17:43] <_Dbug_> dcesiel, have you checked the System Monitor ?
[17:43] <bulmer> K_Dallas-> here is a link   http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/features.html
[17:43] <ferent> thanks Pici, it's ok!
[17:43] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, thank you. i look into it
[17:43] <wols_> grindcore_: that is not the name you downloaded. paste the URL of your download
[17:43] <YeTr2_> scriptha: I'm just suggesting bash script, it would be faster since bash is already running on your .bash_profile
[17:43] <K_Dallas> bulmer, thanks
[17:44] <xinth>  I've been trying to configure my mouse buttons properly.  I managed it before, several months ago on a different computer with the same mouse.  I've specified it as having "Buttons" "7" in xorg.conf.  When I run xev, it is apparent that buttons 6 & 7 (back & forward) are sending events on button 2 & 3 for some reason.
[17:44] <dcesiel> _Dbug_ the app using the most resources right now is firfox and its only using 2 percent of my cpu
[17:44] <drc822> skold: google sed.. there should be some examples
[17:44] <scriptha> YeTr2_, I would have to learn bash just to do this xD
[17:44] <Galdar\Linux> how can I use dual screen in ubuntu... not clone but just maybe one of the workspaces on the other screen :D
[17:44] <_Dbug_> dcesiel, no other suggestion (I'm a newb)
[17:44] <dcesiel> yet somehow im using more than 55 percent all ttl
[17:44] <drc822> skold: or learn ruby and make a nice script :)
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dcesiel: do you have screen effects enabled.. added any software lately?
[17:45] <neozen> skold: sed -i "s/\n/\:\n/g
[17:45] <neozen> skold: gah
[17:45] <dcesiel> Jack_Sparrow yes I do but they have worked fine in the past
[17:45] <deathblooms> grrrr... stupid envy
[17:45] <grindcore_> wols_ http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu.virginmedia.com%2Freleases%2F&debug=%5B%27country_US%27%2C+%27country_UK%27%2C+%27continent_NA%27%5D&download-button=
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dcesiel: I would turn them off and see if it makes a diff
[17:45] <neozen> skold: sed -i -e "s/\n/\:\n/g" yourfilehere
[17:45] <neozen> skold: that should do it
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> deathblooms: Envy and automaitx.. both terrible things to do to your computer
[17:46] <lusepuster_> another question: Does anyone have an idea why Kopete doesn't show any icons? It's a minor annoyance but...
[17:46] <deathblooms> wish i could get these ati drivers to work
[17:46] <drc822> deathblooms: thats a real problem
[17:46] <drc822> deathblooms: what card?
[17:46] <wols_> grindcore_: what videocard do you have? any errors you saw on bootup?
[17:46] <deathblooms> 1650 pro
[17:46] <jariep1_> hi there all
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> deathblooms: Once you use one of those, anything else you do to try and fix it compounds the prob
[17:46] <jariep1_> hope everyone is doing allright
[17:47] <wols_> deathblooms: what drivers did you try?
[17:47] <deathblooms> just the envy drivers
[17:47] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, i see the Tracker indexing in Sys > preferences
[17:47] <K_Dallas> but how do i use it
[17:47] <dcesiel> Jack_Sparrow what ist he easiet way to stop compiz-fusion?
[17:47] <grindcore_> wols_ i tried to install ubuntu before - and i finished after install at the boot options - i have ati radeon xpress 1250 integrated on laptop,... :(
[17:47] <wols_> !envy
[17:47] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:47] <wols_> deathblooms: we don't support it. ask envy folks
[17:47] <ArrPirate> Damn Small Linux has a stat monitor thing embedded on the desktop... is there a way I can get that feature in ubuntu?
[17:47] <tdfd> Hey im running 6.06 when i go to upgrade it gives me an error sayting that it crashed and can not retrive packages.
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> dcesiel: I dont know in gutsy yet..
[17:48] <sachi> guys can please someone give me a black theme to download and to guide me how to install it please
[17:48] <tdfd> if i boot my computer in 6.06 and then put the 7.10 cd in the computer while the computer is running 6.06 is there a way to upgrade?
[17:48] <lusepuster_> dcesiel, download and install fusion-icon, that sits in your systray as a nice shortcut to various compiz options
[17:48] <bulmer> here is an article to test if your ISP is spoofing your connectivity to slowdown your bittorent downloads..  http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection
[17:48] <brobostigon> !upgrade
[17:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:48] <tdfd> I would just remount the / partition but for some reason when i boot of the live  cd its not picking up my partitions
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sachi: gnome-look.org  drag and drop the tar onto system pref appearance ...
[17:49] <tds5016> anyone able to help me with 3d windows?
[17:49] <MrBL> I've a problem with phpmyadmin, it appears blank in FF (gutsy64). Has anyone heard about this?
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> got to run.. wife is feeling punky and needs me
[17:49] <sachi> ill give a try jack thx
[17:50] <tomd123> does anyone know where I should report a rhythmbox bug?
[17:50] <Pici> !bugs | tomd123
[17:50] <ubotu> tomd123: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[17:50] <tdfd> Do you guys know if it is possible to upgrade from 6.06 straight to 7.10?
[17:50] <_Dbug_> No idea about my virtual screen problem ? Is it possible to force a S3 Savage based laptop to display in a higher resolution than the original screen by pluggin an external screen ?
[17:50] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, I found tracker-search-tools, very neat, thank you
[17:50] <tdfd> Just using the cd and using this command gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[17:50] <brobostigon> !upgrade | tdfd
[17:50] <ubotu> tdfd: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:51] <ArrPirate> Damn Small Linux has a stat monitor thing embedded on the desktop... is there a way I can get that feature in ubuntu?
[17:51] <tdfd> brobostigon: i read that already i am asking a question that is not answered by that
[17:51] <bluefox83> ArrPirate, it
[17:51] <bluefox83> it
[17:51] <bluefox83> s a terminal
[17:51] <tdfd> Does anyone know if you can upgrade from 6.06 straight to 7.10
[17:51] <brobostigon> you need to upgarde each version in succession,
[17:51] <bluefox83> there's a program you can get to make it stay...devilspie i think
[17:51] <dcesiel> Ok thats just weird
[17:52] <brobostigon> you cant go straight from 6.06 to gutsy
[17:52] <dcesiel> The process, whatever it was suddenly just ended
[17:52] <dcesiel> and im going fast agian
[17:52] <lusepuster_> dcesiel, try looking here: http://neoaddict.wordpress.com/2007/11/03/getting-fusion-icon/, it's kinda dirty since it's not in your package manager, but I ah happy I have it
[17:52] <ArrPirate> rather than upgrading one after the other, you might want to consider backing up your data and just reinstalling ubuntu using a gutsy disc
[17:53] <Wutz> Hello all, Can anyone help me by giving me a proper guide to installing a driver for ati HD 2400 Xt?
[17:53] <wols_> !tell Wutz about fglrx
[17:53] <dcesiel> lusepuster: thx for the link I was looking into into getting that
[17:53] <wols_> fglrx
[17:53] <wols_> !ati
[17:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:54] <wols_> Wutz: see that
[17:54] <brobostigon> !fglrx
[17:54] <grindcore_> i have laptop HP compaq 6715b - someone who already installed the ubuntu desktop 7.10 i386 on it ? i have some questions, please help me
[17:54] <cocox> 70.86.145.114:8000
[17:54] <cocox> Does anybody knows which is the best switch combinatios to do with netstat? i mean something like netstat -an but which gives the most accurate info
[17:54] <wols_> cocox: all of netstat is accurate. your question doesn't make sense
[17:55] <|adam|> hi all,can i ask some very noob questions?
[17:55] <drc822> ye
[17:55] <bluefox83> |adam|, that's what we're here for
[17:55] <|adam|> ive just this second installed ubuntu
[17:55] <|adam|> thx:)
[17:55] <Wutz> thankyou for the link
[17:55] <january7716831> Hello
[17:55] <bieb> !ask | grindcore
[17:55] <ubotu> grindcore: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:55] <|adam|> i just cant bear the sight of win xp no more so many problems
[17:57] <lusepuster_> |adam|, in order not to flood the channel, pls get directly to the questions :-)
[17:57] <|adam|> kk,basically i wanna run world of warcraft,i did a bit of revision on..is it cedega? 3 pounds a month or wine? what is best to run the game??
[17:57] <january7716831> I need help installing the 686 smp kernal. I keep geting a not found error
[17:57] <cocox> wols_, all right just want to know how do you people prefer to use it
[17:57] <grindcore_> bieb after install ubuntu i getting problems with boot - now I'm installing ubuntu again,..
[17:58] <xinth> |adam|: your approach seems better than mine... you have their attention!
[17:58] <xinth>  I've been trying to configure my mouse buttons properly.  I managed it before, several months ago on a different computer with the same mouse.  I've specified it as having "Buttons" "7" in xorg.conf.  When I run xev, it is apparent that buttons 6 & 7 (back & forward) are sending events on button 2 & 3 for some reason.
[17:58] <deathblooms> ok i get this error : E: Couldn't find package restricted-manager-kde
[17:58] <bieb> grindcore  what errors? or we can wait til you are done with this install
[17:58] <idefix_> error: Could not download all repository indexes, I added the IP's to sources.list, it still doesn't work, what do I do?
[17:58] <wols_> grindcore_: what kind of problems?
[17:58] <|adam|> any ideas?
[17:58] <tomd123> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/19/how-to-install-play-world-of-warcraft-ubuntu-510-6061-610/
[17:59] <tomd123> that link is for |adam|
[17:59] <skyfalcon866> #windows
[17:59] <Wutz> hey guys, the link "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI" doesnt say anything about ati's HD series, will this still work?
[17:59] <wols_> deathblooms: do you have "restricted" in your sources.list?
[17:59] <supermann> http://nopaste.info/93a4a5aad4.html
[17:59] <Ximal> How can I add teamspeak-server to start as soon as I boot into ubuntu ? I get an error when I try to do sudo teamspeak-server
[17:59] <dcesiel> lusepuster: what settings did you change so that fusion-icon would load at startup instead of the defualt compiz stuff?
[17:59] <zero-9376> i have removed tracker and now i can't search from within nautilus, is there any way to fix this? I do not need/want to index i just want simple search
[17:59] <Ximal> I get Either an old instance of teamspeak is still running, or an other application is using the tcpquery port!
[17:59] <|adam|> my logitech g5 laser mouse keeps freezing too,but since i have disabled legacy keyboard support so far fingers crossed it ok
[17:59] <deathblooms> how do i check i am in software sources right now
[17:59] <Ximal> anyone able to help me with this ?
[17:59] <Rendoor> how do i change the horizontal positioning of my gui?  changing it via the monitor isnt working
[18:00] <deathblooms> i dont  know what to look for
[18:00] <ArrPirate> so, the stat monitor thing on the desktop of Damn Small Linux is really a terminal... anyone know what app the terminal is running?
[18:00] <grindcore_> wols_ and bieb : if I have turned on my broadcom wireless card - I'm getting 5 or 6 messages - cannot load some files about this and if i turn off the card - it stop and dont go more,..
[18:00] <bieb> !teamspeak
[18:00] <ubotu> Teamspeak is the proprietry VoIP software see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak  For a open source alternative consider using Mumble http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
[18:00] <xinth> ArrPirate: perhaps there are DSL people you can ask?
[18:00] <Pici> ArrPirate: Do you have a screenshot?
[18:00] <EdwardXP> DSL?
[18:00] <Pici> EdwardXP: damn small linux
[18:00] <ArrPirate> Damn Small Linux
[18:01] <xinth> Damn Small Linux
[18:01] <EdwardXP> lol
[18:01] <EdwardXP> digital subscribers line...
[18:01] <Ximal> the !teamspeak doesn't help me..
[18:01] <wols_> grindcore_: your paraphrasing is useless for error finding. etierh paste the exact messages or don't bother
[18:01] <Ximal> I'm using teamspeak server
[18:01] <EdwardXP> your both wrong ;p
[18:01] <bieb> Ximal it wasnt meant to help you. I was wondering what it is
[18:01] <xinth> there is no right and wrong...
[18:02] <stefano> ikonia, dyndns seems to work good, i havent got any abuse-warnings yet :D
[18:02] <grindcore_> wols_ I'm sorry about this - when i will finish with install i will put the exact message here
[18:02] <Wutz> can anyone help me about this link "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI" it doesnt say anything about ati's HD series, I'm wondering if it'll still install and run correctly
[18:02] <tomd123> EdwardXP: you have to be specifc, there are lots of acronyms that stand for multiple things
[18:02] <flokuehn> hi. may anybody introduce me howto setup my $PATH. I want to use java.
[18:02] <EdwardXP> i know tomd123
[18:03] <EdwardXP> :P
[18:03] <wols_> Wutz: why don't you just try?
[18:03] <EdwardXP> im bored
[18:03] <Wutz> i have in the past 7.09 version
[18:03] <wols_> flokuehn: if you install java, it's automatically in path
[18:03] <Wutz> and ubuntu didnt start up
[18:03] <ijn> hi all
[18:03] <tomd123> EdwardXP: go to bugzilla and start solving some bugs
[18:03] <Wutz> so i switched back to windows, now i want to try ubuntu again
[18:03] <ijn> can anyone help with fglrx problems??
[18:03] <xinth> EdwardXP: or help me configure my mouse
[18:03] <flokuehn> wols_: how can i check if its in path? with echo $PATH ?
[18:04] <wols_> flokuehn: how did you install java?
[18:04] <EdwardXP> fine
[18:04] <flokuehn> wols_: via apt-get
[18:04] <|adam|> any one know how to install is it beryl on ubuntu
[18:04] <EdwardXP> whats wrong with your mouse?
[18:04] <Pici> !beryl | |adam|
[18:04] <ubotu> |adam|: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[18:04] <wols_> flokuehn: dpkg -L <package> |grep <file you want to start>
[18:04] <xinth> EdwardXP: The forwards and back buttons are sending events on button 2 & 3
[18:04] <tomd123> !compiz | |adam|
[18:04] <ubotu> |adam|: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:05] <wols_> in this case the grep <file you want to start> is bin/java
[18:05] <spideyman> I upgraded to gutsy but now cant see files in second drive shows the space as used but no files?
[18:05] <|adam|> thanks you are being very helpfull
[18:05] <idefix_> what are backport repositories?
[18:05] <xinth>  I've been trying to configure my mouse buttons properly.  I managed it before, several months ago on a different computer with the same mouse.  I've specified it as having "Buttons" "7" in xorg.conf.  When I run xev, it is apparent that buttons 6 & 7 (back & forward) are sending events on button 2 & 3 for some reason.
[18:05] <wols_> Adam__: ubotu is a bot
[18:05] <|adam|> i have an 8800 gtx in my machine so can cope with the extra effort lol
[18:05] <wols_> !tell xinth about repeat
[18:05] <skold> q
[18:05] <ijn>  can anyone help with fglrx problems??
[18:06] <xinth> I guess I'll ask google about repeat, then...
[18:06] <|adam|> lol is he?
[18:06] <ijn> gutsy 64bit, had installed fglrx 7.37 the ubuntu way. i thought I tray the new catalyst 7.11
[18:06] <ijn> installed envy wich installed catalyst well
[18:06] <wols_> !repeat
[18:06] <|adam|> ok how can i install beryl?
[18:06] <ijn> but fglrxinfo command give mesa output
[18:06] <wols_> ijn: envy is not supported. ask envy people
[18:06] <arash> Hi, I wan tto set up my printer so it works, it's a HP OfficeJet 7180 All-in-One, i remember I've got it to work on Kubuntu before, and it said that printing should be easier on 7.10
[18:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[18:06] <ijn> do you know what room?
[18:07] <flokuehn> wols_:i want to compile an execute an selfmade file. i does not work with the command you gave me.
[18:07] <xinth> ok, I'm sorry about that
[18:07] <maku> hiya
[18:07] <xinth> I don't mean to be rude
[18:07] <maku> i just installed new ubuntu 7.10
[18:07] <flokuehn> wols_: if you have an moment i can paste the message i get if i make java appname
[18:07] <wols_> flokuehn: grep PATH .*
[18:07] <wols_> flokuehn: grep PATH ~/.*
[18:07] <maku> and i'm wondering why i can't get Direct Rendering support
[18:07] <wols_> maku: what videocard chip?
[18:08] <maku> i followed guide on ubuntu help site
[18:08] <maku> radeon 9200SE
[18:08] <Pici> |adam|: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:08] <flokuehn> wols_: http://nopaste.com/p/a1NRihO8L
[18:08] <january7716831> adam i can help you
[18:08] <|adam|> can you january?
[18:08] <sachi> ill give a try jack this greenlake.xml
[18:08] <Nembutal> Hi
[18:08] <january7716831> you probly want copiz fuzion
[18:08] <EdwardXP> do you edit the /dev/paux for your keyboard?
[18:08] <EdwardXP> I mean mouse?
[18:08] <Nembutal> I have a problem, which seems to be quite usual: My DVD drives disappeared
[18:08] <choongii> hi. anyone running deluge-torrent 0.5.4.1-1ubuntu3 ?
[18:08] <Nembutal> the device files don't exist anymore
[18:08] <GoreNuru> Hi! Please tell me how turn off screensaver? I Tried to do this in settings menu, but screensaver still working awter 10 minutes idlle. Shuting down gnome-screensaver service don't helped me to.
[18:08] <|adam|> ok im so new i wouldnt know how to install either could you help?
[18:08] <sachi> how can i install this greenlake.xml
[18:08] <Nembutal> in all of a sudden
[18:09] <Nembutal> they worked fine before
[18:09] <wols_> flokuehn: dpkg -l |grep java
[18:09] <Pici> |adam|: If you are running 7.10(Gutsy) then Compiz-Fusion is already installed.
[18:09] <maku> the most strange error are from Xorg.log.0
[18:09] <|adam|> i am yes
[18:09] <maku> (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
[18:09] <Nembutal> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0
[18:09] <maku> (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
[18:09] <Nembutal> is the fstab line for example
[18:09] <Nembutal> does anybody have the same problem?
[18:09] <Nembutal> mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[18:09] <january7716831> go to add remove programs and type compiz
[18:09] <wols_> Nembutal: did you upgrade kernels recently?
[18:10] <wols_> maku: agpgart missing?
[18:10] <GoreNuru> Hi! Please tell me how turn off screensaver? I Tried to do this in settings menu, but screensaver still working awter 10 minutes idlle. Shuting down gnome-screensaver service don't helped me to.
[18:10] <Pici> |adam|: Go to System>Preferences>Appearance, one of the tabs is desktop effects, enable it there.
[18:10] <maku> hmm dmesg  dmesg | grep agp
[18:10] <maku> [   37.039403] Linux agpgart interface v0.102 (c) Dave Jones
[18:10] <Nembutal> wols_, no, I don't think so
[18:10] <Nembutal> Linux russia 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:10] <Nembutal> I use gutsy gibbon
[18:10] <spideyman> I upgraded to gutsy but now cant see files in second drive shows the space as used but no files?
[18:10] <Nembutal> I'd like to try an older kernel
[18:10] <skyfalcon866> i thought it was gusty gibbon
[18:10] <Nembutal> but there is none in the repository and I'm too pissed to compile one myself now
[18:10] <Pici> !gusty | skyfalcon866
[18:10] <ubotu> skyfalcon866: It is spelt !guTSy :)
[18:11] <wols_> !gutsy
[18:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[18:11] <Nembutal> I don't understand, why my drives suddenly don't exist
[18:11] <Nembutal> maybe dbus or hotplug problems?
[18:11] <mannytu> !time
[18:11] <maku> wols_: i think that i had it in my kerenl, how to check it?
[18:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:11] <mannytu> !times
[18:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about times - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:12] <january7716831> hows it going adam
[18:12] <mannytu> is anyone have problems setting their time?
[18:12] <january7716831> Have you figured anything out yet
[18:12] <|adam|> how do i see that cube?
[18:12] <Pici> !ccsm | |adam|
[18:12] <ubotu> |adam|: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[18:13] <sachi> please please please can someone give me a help to install a theme which will change everything in black
[18:13] <january7716831> do you have gutsy
[18:13] <wols_> mannytu: sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[18:13] <|adam|> yes i have the wobbly windows now:)
[18:13] <xinth> EdwardXP: Thanks, I almost missed your pointer to /dev/paux (assuming that was for me).
[18:13] <maku> so, can sb told me how to check that agpgart is in system?
[18:13] <|adam|> just enabling the cube,how do i access it?
[18:13] <january7716831> the cub is ctrl alt left once you enable igt
[18:14] <january7716831> it
[18:14] <Pici> |adam|: You need to follow those directions above to install the configuration tool so that you can set the cube commands
[18:14] <ArrPirate> I got the desktop monitor on my desktop... it's not a terminal, and I didn't need devilspie. It's a monitor called conky
[18:14] <YeTr2_> sachi: gnome-look.org
[18:14] <YeTr2_> sachi: installation of themes is mostly just drag & drop into the themes menu
[18:14] <zero-9376> i have removed tracker and now i can't search from within nautilus, is there any way to fix this? I do not need/want to index i just want simple search
[18:14] <sachi> i tried that but no worth at all
[18:15] <sachi> and im trying this since several hours
[18:15] <sachi> please guide me
[18:15] <mannytu> wols_: I did th3e command 2 times and my time is still off on the desktop
[18:15] <YeTr2_> sachi: after you install the theme, you might have to go into the customization section and manually select the theme you want to run.
[18:15] <wols_> mannytu: pastebin its output
[18:15] <january7716831> or you can set up your own short cut under. cube then actions the click general and it will give you the short cut options
[18:16] <YeTr2_> sachi: and as a note, 'all black' themes generally don't look that good across the board with the applications that use them.
[18:16] <neozen> hey all, how do I decrease the size of the desktop icons on gutsy?
[18:16] <sachi> is there any forum step by step how to install theme
[18:16] <stefano> how can i set up a secure and encrypted irc server?
[18:16] <january7716831> the wobbly is cool huh adam
[18:16] <corruptionoflulz> neozen: possibly gconf-editor
[18:16] <YeTr2_> stefano: what would make it 'secure' for you?
[18:16] <Pici> !changethemes | sachi
[18:16] <ubotu> sachi: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[18:17] <arash> neozen , right click the icons and choose to edit size
[18:17] <stefano> YeTr2_, if everything would be completely encrypted and it would not safe any logs on the hard drive.
[18:17] <Buginator> In the console shell, when I do save scheme to linux colors (or any other), it don't save it.  Ideas why?
[18:17] <EdwardXP> my Beep isn't workin in my system... " The System beep"  .. how do i correct this?
[18:17] <stefano> YeTr2_, i thought about tunneling it trough ssh, but i dont know much about all that
[18:18] <|adam|> i have checked the box to enable the cube so hpw do i set the  kyy command for it?
[18:18] <mannytu> wols_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46723/
[18:18] <neozen> arash: no way to change this globally?
[18:18] <arash> neozen:  ah :p, hmm, no idea
[18:18] <amazen720> can some one help me, my machine keep telling me that my passwd is wrong, but it's not. I tried to passwd <username> via recovery mode, but it says that my username is a "unknown user", but if cd /home and ls my directory is there. I'm lost
[18:18] <mannytu> wols: the time is right in term.
[18:18] <wols_> mannytu: then the time shown on desktop is wrong
[18:19] <neozen> arash: ie... make this size the default for all icons on the desktop?
[18:19] <mannytu> yes
[18:19] <neozen> arash: ...lol
[18:19] <january7716831> edward its under sound in the int system prefs
[18:19] <neozen> arash: they made this so easy in xfce .....
[18:19] <fiXXXerMet> I am thinking of putting together a system with an Intel Celeron 220 1.2 GHz and 512MB of RAM.  How do you think Ubuntu would perform for web/email/music?
[18:19] <neozen> arash: oh well...
[18:19] <amazen720> can some one help me, my machine keep telling me that my passwd is wrong, but it's not. I tried to passwd <username> via recovery mode, but it says that my username is a "unknown user", but if cd /home and ls my directory is there. I'm lost
[18:19] <EdwardXP> >>>> anyone know that cool interface terminal irc or something?
[18:19] <Pici> EdwardXP: irssi
[18:20] <YeTr2_> EdwardXP: irssi, bitchx, xchat-text ?
[18:20] <EdwardXP> irssi :)
[18:20] <combinio> how can i search repos if i'm looking for some program ?? :}
[18:20] <wols_> amazen720: did you chroot to your harddisk when trying to set the passwd from the liveCD?
[18:20] <brobostigon> packages.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <Pici> combinio: apt-cache search program or aptitude search program or that ^
[18:21] <wols_> combinio: apt-cache search or look at packages.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <january7716831> combino use the add remove programs
[18:21] <|adam|> january7716831: how can i set the key command to see the cube pls
[18:21] <amazen720> wols: I didn't do it from a live CD, just esc>recoverymode
[18:21] <combinio> Pici, wols_ thanks a lot ;) that was what i needed ^^
[18:22] <january7716831> did you go to actions under the cube options and click general to see the short cut
[18:22] <wols_> amazen720: is your username in /etc/passwd?
[18:22] <felix_> hi
[18:22] <amazen720> wols_; let me check
[18:22] <axisys> how do I diff between dirs and file and contents of files?
[18:23] <autopilot> New to ubuntu and installed 6.10 on a new hard drive. Can't get the wireless Dell card to work. Read the instruction on the documentations, but I don't understand. Can anyone help?
[18:23] <Stormx2`> Could someone tell me how GNOME mounted network shares (SSH, FTP, available via Places > Connect To Server) can be reached via command line?
[18:23] <bulmer> autopilot-> what brand of wifi card you got? which chip it has?
[18:24] <axisys> !diff
[18:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diff - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:24] <mannytu> wols_: found the problem, on clock preferences the "Use UTC" was selected...
[18:24] <mannytu> It must of been me... :-)
[18:24] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hey. i have squid running. can i encrypt the data that is being send from proxy-client --> proxy-server ?
[18:24] <autopilot> Dell Wireless 1390 802.11 b/g Mini Card
[18:24] <Buginator> 6.10 or 7.10?
[18:25] <bieb> is there a good how-to for building an ubuntu webserver?
[18:25] <Pici> !lamp > bieb (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:25] <amazen720> wols_: dont see it only root
[18:25] <january7716831> adam i forgot you also need to click rotate cube
[18:26] <bieb> thanks pici
[18:26] <josiahw_> irc.moofspeak.net
[18:27] <zero-9376> i have removed tracker and now i can't search from within nautilus, is there any way to fix this? I do not need/want to index i just want simple search
[18:27] <GoldenMagikarp> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[18:27] <wols_> amazen720: you don't see what? there should be about one or two dozen lines in /etc/passwd. each line a user
[18:27] <|adam|> january7716831: ive done it!!!!!
[18:28] <|adam|> thx dude
[18:28] <amazen720> wols_: I see my user name
[18:29] <AskHL_> How much memory is trackerd supposed to consume? Because it is using more than 100 MB on my low-memory system, and the usage increases steadily
[18:29] <Pici> !traffic
[18:29] <EdwardXP> whats the command to list only directories/
[18:29] <EdwardXP> ?
[18:29] <bulmer> bieb-> am partial to tomcat, so i suggest tomcat as a webserver
[18:29] <wols_> amazen720: then the user exists and you can change the password
[18:29] <usser> AskHL_: u can set the amount of memory dedicated to indexing
[18:29] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[18:30] <|adam|> how do i assign new keys to enable the effects?
[18:30] <bulmer> autopilot-> kindly respond with a prefix of my nick, or else i will miss your responses
[18:30] <Slart> EdwardXP: isn't there some kind of switch to "ls" ?
[18:30] <january7716831> adam click on my name and chat with me in a new box
[18:30] <autopilot> Bulmer>Sorry about that. I am new to this.
[18:30] <bieb> pici i will be putting my server up at the company I work for (ie. job.com) currently any of the windoze servers are named somename.job.com, where is that during the ubuntu setup? would I have to enter the whole string? bieb.job.com? or just name the server bieb?
[18:31] <|adam|> january7716831: ok
[18:31] <Pici> bieb: um, I'm not sure actually... You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:31] <bieb> ok
[18:31] <january7716831> it is so hard to keep track of you with all thes other people
[18:32] <EdwardXP> ls -
[18:32] <Slart> EdwardXP: try "ls -d"
[18:32] <wols_> bieb: just bieb. FQDN is DNS
[18:32] <Osama> I find it hard ot keep track of
[18:32] <Osama> DCC SEND "startjewlogger" 0 0 0
[18:32] <EdwardXP> i did that one already
[18:32] <bulmer> autopilot-> look in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` and see if the driver for your wifi chips is there
[18:32] <|adam|> january7716831: i have wispered you
[18:32] <EdwardXP> slart :) no worries eddie, brings out his keyboard!
[18:33] <amazen720> wols_: it's two entries "<username>:x:1000:<fullname>,,,,:/home/<username>:/bin/bash" but this one my first initial is missing and <username>:x:1001:1001::/home/<username>:/bin/sh    do you see anything wrong?
[18:33] <EdwardXP> as you can tell this getting serious
[18:33] <macBignose> i'm a bit curious about tasksel
[18:33] <wols_> amazen720: delete one of the usernames. there can only be one <username>, not two
[18:33] <january7716831> adam i suck at this but i do know how to get the cube to work
[18:33] <macBignose> why would there be a separate tool, when it could be a meta package, the same way that xubuntu-desktop works for example.
[18:33] <Slart> EdwardXP: hmm -d didn't work for me.. but I'll eat something nasty is there isn't a switch for ls that makes it output only directories
[18:34] <bieb> wols thanks
[18:34] <|adam|> ihave the cube working:)
[18:34] <|adam|> how can i get the fire and water effects going
[18:34] <wols_> macBignose: cause it'S there to display and installs tuff. metapackages don't display a selection to choose from
[18:34] <january7716831> coll
[18:34] <january7716831> cool
[18:34] <autopilot> Bulmer> It was not there
[18:34] <january7716831> same way just look for them in the settings
[18:34] <macBignose> wols_: so if you want to make an install that takes input, you use tasksel
[18:34] <bieb> wols_  I am going to build a jabber server just for internal use
[18:34] <EdwardXP> slart> im serious it didn't work
[18:35] <bulmer> autopilot-> then you have to find the correct driver and put it in that directory
[18:35] <AskHL_> usser, thank you. I looked through the administration -> services program, but I see no way to configure trackerd. I can see there is a low-mem mode in the man page, I just need to know, then, where I can change the parameters
[18:35] <wols_> macBignose: no
[18:35] <|adam|> it saying press super key wahts that?
[18:35] <macBignose> wols_: okay.. where am i confused.
[18:35] <Pici> |adam|: your 'windows' key on the keyboard.
[18:36] <january7716831> once you check it is shift windows key and then just use the mouse to paint the fire
[18:36] <|adam|> got it thx dude;)
[18:36] <fihi09> EdwardXP: to list directories try "find <path> -maxdepth <n> -type d"
[18:36] <usser> AskHL_: its in system->preferences->indexing preferences
[18:36] <AskHL_> Ah, thanks usser. Must have missed that somehow
[18:36] <autopilot> Bulmer>I guess I looked in the wrong place. There are several drivers there.
[18:37] <january7716831> ocool
[18:37] <yoblin> I'm trying to compile gutsy with SLAB not SLUB, I see CONFIG_SLUB=y , CONFIG_SLUB_DEBUG=y , and # CONFIG_SLAB is not set
[18:37] <EdwardXP> ls -d  i got a " . " as my output source
[18:37] <autopilot> Bulmer>I will look again and see if I can locate it.
[18:37] <yoblin> can I switch SLUB to SLAB and recompile?
[18:37] <bulmer> autopilot-> find that matchers for your chips
[18:37] <macBignose> wols_:  can you clarify further for me please
[18:37] <Stormx2> I asked this before but X restarted for no good reason. How can I access network shares mounted by GNOME (via Connect To Server...) from command line?
[18:37] <wols_> macBignose: no
[18:38] <january7716831> adam any thing else
[18:38] <Stormx2> macBignose, what's the issue?
[18:38] <krzysiek> Hi!
[18:38] <macBignose> Stormx2: i'm trying to get a bit of clarity as to what tasksel is, or isn't.
[18:38] <|adam|> now the water
[18:38] <Stormx2> Lemme see.
[18:38] <IMYojimbo> how do i customize the ubunutu install (while installing) to drop junk software (open office..)
[18:39] <macBignose> it seems specifically to be a part of teh install process and nothing else.
[18:39] <macBignose> i was just suprised how there is't a meta package for lamp-server and that you use tasksel instead.
[18:40] <autopilot> Bulmer>I don't see it anywhere. I did download the driver from Dell, but when running, it wo't accept it.
[18:40] <bulmer> Stormx2-> is it mounted?  type   mount in a terminal and see if that partition or remote shared partition is mounted still
[18:40] <EdwardXP> I only want to display directories, anyone know the command for that.. im in a folder with tons of content.. i just want to list the (DIR)  ' ls -d ' doesnt work for me ;(
[18:40] <yoblin> IMYojimbo: install aptoncd
[18:40] <Stormx2> bulmer: Hmm, looks as if it's not technically mounted.
[18:40] <yoblin> to create a custom disc
[18:40] <krzysiek> I have samsung L60 with 1GB memory card. When i connect phone with PC ubuntu yhink its camera. Why i cant see Storage memroy?
[18:40] <bulmer> autopilot-> when you go to system->administration->network is the nic recognized?
[18:40] <fihi09> EdwardXP: to list directories try "find <path> -maxdepth <n> -type d"
[18:40] <IMYojimbo> yoblin: what?
[18:40] <macBignose> Stormx2: here's my actual question now that i've thought about it more. Why tasksel , when apt-get and metapackagse already exist ?
[18:41] <Slart> EdwardXP: "ls -d */" should do the trick
[18:41] <EdwardXP> 'd
[18:41] <IMYojimbo> yoblin: i'm during install right now
[18:41] <cutmerock> Hey guys
[18:41] <EdwardXP> :D
[18:41] <bulmer> Stormx2-> then if its not mounted, what do you want to do?
[18:41] <autopilot> Bulmer>what is nic?
[18:41] <Slart> EdwardXP: or that find-thingy would be good too
[18:41] <cutmerock> is there a way i can desktop remote connect to my vista PC from ubuntu?
[18:41] <EdwardXP> yah it works!!!
[18:41] <bulmer> autopilot-> short for network interface card
[18:41] <EdwardXP> why did it have to be so complicated hehe
[18:41] <usser> cutmerock: vnc
[18:42] <Stormx2> bulmer: GNOME does a kind of "gnome mount" when you do "connect to server", making something acessible under ssh:// or ftp:// in nautilus. Afaik, this isn't available in cli
[18:42] <amadeux> Where can I find "libgtkglext1" for gutsy?
[18:42] <Pici> cutmerock: Sure, use the terminal services connect tool from Applications>Internet, and you can connect to rdp (remote desktop p-something)
[18:42] <cutmerock> vnc?
[18:42] <usser> cutmerock: install a vnc server on vista and connect using any linux client
[18:42] <january7716831> same thing just enable then shift f9
[18:42] <cutmerock> k
[18:42] <january7716831> did you get that adam
[18:42] <cutmerock> thanks
[18:42] <bulmer> Stormx2-> off course it is, everything behind that gui is a command line
[18:42] <IMYojimbo> how do i customize the ubunutu install (while installing) to drop junk software (open office..)
[18:42] <Pici> cutmerock: You dont need VNC, and it slower than RDP
[18:42] <autopilot> Bulmer>yes, it shows a wireless connection is available, but won't show me my router
[18:43] <Stormx2> bulmer, so, where is it?
[18:43] <Pici> cutmerock: RDP is the built in remote desktop tool.
[18:43] <cutmerock> so how should i connect if VNC is slow?
[18:43] <usser> cutmerock: right sorry ignore that, u can use windows native rdp
[18:43] <bulmer> autopilot-> well then do a  sudo ip a  and see if your nic is on the list
[18:43] <|adam|> januaryyes 1 second please:)
[18:43] <amadeux> When I do apt-get update, eventually I get a message like this: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:43] <Pici> cutmerock: Dont use VNC, use The Terminal Services Connect tool, its in Applications>Internet iirc.
[18:43] <cutmerock> k
[18:43] <EdwardXP> I'
[18:43] <usser> cutmerock: go with what Pici suggested
[18:43] <nixnoob> why doesnt emerald decorator work on compiz-fusion?
[18:43] <cutmerock> ive been tyring to use it, and its not conecting
[18:43] <amadeux> Pici, do you mean to say that I can use the remote desktop feature in Windows, to and from an Ubuntu system?
[18:43] <makiolo> the mlre
[18:43] <Stormx2> bulmer, I know that everything is coded, but afaik, the "mounted" network share isn't mounted on my filesystem, nautilus just pretties it up to seem that way
[18:43] <bulmer> Stormx2-> can you do a  man mount  the instructions are there, if you get stuck, come back
[18:44] <makiolo> the more fast is nomachine NX
[18:44] <Pici> cutmerock: If you have remote desktop sharing enabled in windows, you can connect to that.
[18:44] <yoblin> cutmerock: install rdesktop on ubuntu
[18:44] <Stormx2> Anyone at all helpful?
[18:44] <grindcore_> so i just finish with install of ubuntu and now i have first boot and the machine is stoped after *running local boot scripts - saying ok and then on the next line is cursor for writing,.. any ideas ?
[18:44] <Pici> amadeux: I dont know if you can connect TO ubuntu from rdesktop, but you can certanly conenct from Ubuntu
[18:44] <moot> VNC is speedy with the correct compression settings
[18:44] <amadeux> Pici, cool, didn't know
[18:44] <amazen720> wols_; thanks alot,  what happen was the first letter of my user name was missing <stupid me>
[18:45] <amadeux> When I do apt-get update, eventually I get a message like this: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:45] <amadeux> help
[18:45] <makiolo> in default is slow
[18:45] <makiolo> in my experience
[18:45] <IMYojimbo> how do i customize the ubunutu install (while installing) to drop junk software (open office..)
[18:45] <makiolo> nomachine is fast default
[18:45] <Copolycube> Hi all !
[18:45] <bulmer> Stormx2-> we are helpful, we'd like you to do a little leg work,  man mount please
[18:46] <Pici> !oem > IMYojimbo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:46] <grindcore_> wols_  first boot and the machine is stoped after *running local boot scripts - saying ok and then on the next line is cursor for writing,.. any ideas ?
[18:46] <Buginator> In the Konsole shell, when I do save scheme to linux colors (or any other), it don't save it.  Ideas why?
[18:46] <nomojob> Can someone help me get my Windows XP to dual boot.  Right now I have Ubuntu on my Master hard drive and XP on my slave.  When I select XP from the GRUB menu it says "Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format" and then takes me back to the menu.  I can boot Ubuntu just fine.  I just tried using Super GRUB and STILL can't get XP to boot.  Can a guru please help me?  I've been fighting with this for a week.  Thanks!
[18:46] <yoblin> anyone know how to disable SLAB and revert to SLUB while compiling 2.6.22 for gutsy?
[18:46] <Stormx2> bulmer, I'd like you to do a little legwork by reading that GNOME's network share manager DOES NOT use mount.
[18:46] <GoldenBAAAAWLS> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[18:46] <Stormx2> Okay bulmer, I'll try and explain this a little better. When I do "connect to server...", GNOME "mounts" the partition, but this has nothing to do with mount. It doesn't show up under $ mount, and only shows up as a URI handler (ssh://blah).
[18:46] <autopilot> Bulmer>I don't understand what I read when it popped up. Shows lo, eth0 and eth1.
[18:46] <Copolycube> How to change the day the week starts in the clock-applet ?? (It starts on Sunday, which is anoying)
[18:46] <proximo> good evening =)
[18:46] <ninjagambit_> i got hit
[18:47] <grunger> it's not working, how do I fix it?
[18:47] <dlocaus> hello, would anyone have a moment to help with data recovery on unbuntu 7.10?
[18:47] <ninjagambit_> with some dcc exploit
[18:47] <ninjagambit_> what a pain in the butt
[18:47] <Pici> ninjagambit_: yes, we see.
[18:47] <amadeux> Help: Is there a problem with the ubuntu repositories these days? When I do apt-get update I get errors: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:47] <grunger> why does that happen when I do this?
[18:47] <gegge87> hi. i do not remember the password for the ubuntu server. could you send it to me by mail? (i think i gave it you)
[18:47] <bulmer> Stormx2-> here is a nice tutorial  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/02/mount-remote-directories-securely-with-ssh-ubuntu-6061-610/  explains how to mount network file systems
[18:48] <Stormx2> bulmer, can you revise your advice to man mount? I've been on that manpage plenty of times, and the information there is completely unhelpful to my problem.
[18:48] <dlocaus> I think the first couple of block on the linux partitino have been coruppted.
[18:48] <proximo> im currently running PCLinuxOS (KDE) with seperate root and home partition, I want to test ubuntu by installing over the root (formatting it) but keep my current home intact. Are there anything special i need to be aware of ? (like KDE and gnome settings clashing)
[18:48] <grindcore_> so i just finish with install of ubuntu and now i have first boot and the machine is stoped after *running local boot scripts - saying ok and then on the next line is cursor for writing,.. any ideas ?
[18:48] <Stormx2> I'ma brb
[18:48] <january7716831> try exit
[18:48] <usser> proximo: i dont u should worry about stuff
[18:48] <nomojob> Can someone help me get my Windows XP to dual boot.  Right now I have Ubuntu on my Master hard drive and XP on my slave.  When I select XP from the GRUB menu it says "Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format" and then takes me back to the menu.  I can boot Ubuntu just fine.  I just tried using Super GRUB and STILL can't get XP to boot.  Can a guru please help me?  I've been fighting with this for a week.  Thanks!
[18:48] <january7716831> grind try exit
[18:48] <stdin> proximo: shouldn't be a problem, but you can try Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu
[18:49] <lusepuster_> proximo, KDE and gnome settings will not clash, but you will inherit your old KDE settings if you run any kde apps in Ubuntu
[18:49] <usser> proximo: switching distribution was no problem at all for me
[18:49] <bulmer> Stormx2-> that tutorial uses sshfs and fuse..but concept is same
[18:49] <bulmer> autopilot-> what was your last message?
[18:49] <proximo> ok thanks for the good advice from you all!
[18:49] <grindcore_> january nothing happend
[18:49] <proximo> tried kubuntu a while back and did not enjoy it much though =\
[18:49] <autopilot> Bulmer>It shows "lo, eth0 and eth1"
[18:50] <january7716831> are you duel booting
[18:50] <bulmer> autopilot-> do you know which one of those is your wifi?  and which one is your ethernet?
[18:50] <grindcore_> january no - only ubuntu is there
[18:50] <vick1> any one here using wireless on ubuntu for quite some time now?
[18:50] <Buginator> nomojob, are you drives booting from SATA or PATA?  You may have to rewrite the boot loader for XP, and try again.
[18:50] <january7716831> ok restart and see what happent
[18:50] <lusepuster_> proximo, also remember that there might be different apps running by default in you .profile that might not run in Ubuntu
[18:50] <autopilot> Bulmer> I am sorry. I do not.
[18:50] <bulmer> vick1-> i have used wireles connectivity..
[18:51] <proximo> lusepuster_: there most likely are
[18:51] <bulmer> autopilot-> is it same laptop you are using now to chat?
[18:51] <stefano> i am looking for a chat software to use with SSH2, do you guys know anything like that (somewhat like thos oldskool telnet chats)
[18:51] <proximo> lusepuster_: as im running lots of KDE spesific apps
[18:51] <nomojob> Buginator: i think they are PATA.  They have the big long connectors on them
[18:51] <autopilot> Bulmer>yes
[18:51] <m0rph3us> whats the best tool to clear up SOme free space on an ubuntu box?
[18:52] <lusepuster_> proximo, yes and that probably won't be critical, but you might have torename (or delete) some settings files after install to get rid of any annoyances
[18:52] <january7716831> morpheus  try klean sweep
[18:52] <autopilot> Bulmer>I am on a wired connection
[18:52] <grindcore_> january - grub loading stage1.5
[18:52] <Buginator> nomojob, what I did was create a boot floppy for linux.  That works for me the best.
[18:52] <bulmer> autopilot-> this is going to be a bit tricky, to use your ethernet and then also your wifi access at same time...lest you are advanced user, i dont recommend it
[18:52] <january7716831> good
[18:52] <m0rph3us> klean sweep? is that in the repo's?
[18:52] <grindcore_> pres esc for menu or no ?
[18:52] <january7716831> yes
[18:52] <amadeux> guys? please help? when you do apt-get update, do you get this error near the bottom of the output: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:52] <amadeux>  
[18:52] <bulmer> autopilot-> you have to learn all the good stuff about routing and such..
[18:52] <proximo> lusepuster_: hmm ok, how about wallpaper, icons on desktop etc, will those inherit as well ?
[18:52] <nomojob> Buginator: so you run the floppy when you want to run linux and Windows boots normally without it?
[18:52] <bulmer> autopilot-> if you are going to use them at same time
[18:52] <autopilot> Bulmer>I am not trying that. I am just using the wired connection to get help when I unplud the wire.
[18:52] <amadeux> Does sudo apt-get install libgtkglext1 work for you? Or where can I find that file for gutsy?
[18:53] <cutmerock> is Jacques Hendricks here?
[18:53] <afief> could someone help me with setting up a VPN?
[18:53] <Buginator> nomojob, you can boot the windows CD, and then rewrite the bootload *only*.  Yeah, I stick in the floppy when I boot into linux.
[18:53] <bulmer> autopilot-> okay, is the AP yours or a neighbors?
[18:53] <lusepuster_> proximo, no. Gnome uses another app to draw the desktop and another app to draw the wall paper
[18:53] <grindcore_> january i have there 3 lines: ubuntu 7.10 kernel 2.6.22-14-generic or same with recovery mode or ubuntu 7.10 memtest86+
[18:53] <autopilot> Bulmer>mine
[18:53] <nomojob> can I make a boot cd for ubuntu?  how do i do that?
[18:53] <cutmerock> is Jacques Hendricks here?
[18:53] <proximo> lusepuster_: goodie, thanks again =)
[18:54] <january7716831> yes the live cd form the ubuntu website
[18:54] <lusepuster_> proximo, but regarding wallpapers, just Alt+drag any picture to the desktop and select "set as wallpaper" or whatever it says
[18:54] <Buginator> nomojob, Um, have no idea, but maybe.  I am still a linux noob.
[18:54] <bulmer> autopilot-> okay here is how to check which nic is for your ethernet, unplug the cable temporarily, you get disconnected here from chat and then ip a to see which nic is up or down
[18:54] <nomojob> Buginator: ok, thanks for your help.  I will do that.
[18:54] <january7716831> sorry i mised your last message
[18:55] <nomojob> Can someone tell me how to make a Ubuntu boot cd?
[18:55] <bulmer> autopilot-> then connect it back once you determine which is which
[18:55] <grindcore_> january i have there 3 lines: ubuntu 7.10 kernel 2.6.22-14-generic or same with recovery mode or ubuntu 7.10 memtest86+
[18:55] <amadeux> guys? please help? when you do apt-get update, do you get this error near the bottom of the output: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)???? I can get any updates as long as this problem persists
[18:55] <Buginator> nomojob, google boot floppy for ubuntu and it tells you how.  Maybe you can transfer that to CD.
[18:55] <tds5016> anyone able to tell me where I can get 3d windows?
[18:55] <january7716831> the first one
[18:55] <proximo> lusepuster_: nice feature :D
[18:55] <Pici> !compiz | tds5016
[18:55] <ubotu> tds5016: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:55] <nomojob> Buginator: ok
[18:55] <autopilot> Bulmer>ok, see you in a bit
[18:55] <afief> could someone help me with setting up a VPN please?
[18:55] <bulmer> autopilot-> rather ..the easiest is type  iwconfig
[18:56] <tds5016> pici I am looking for the download the plugin.
[18:56] <usser> afief: what do u use to set it up? openVPN?
[18:56] <january7716831> if that does not work restart and try recovery mode
[18:56] <tds5016> not the compiz-fusion.
[18:56] <january7716831> by the way wich vertion
[18:56] <Pici> tds5016: Plugin? For what?
[18:56] <tds5016> compiz-fusion.
[18:56] <january7716831> do you have gutsy
[18:56] <afief> usser, yes, but I am unable to generate the certificates
[18:56] <cutmerock> Can anybody let me remote connect to their computer? lol
[18:56] <tds5016> 7.10
[18:56] <EhPrettyEasy> hey people
[18:56] <EhPrettyEasy> why compiz doesnt work with 7.10?
[18:56] <usser> afief: why whats the error?
[18:56] <EhPrettyEasy> it gave me a grub error after updating
[18:56] <tds5016> ubuntu 7.10
[18:56] <Pici> tds5016: You can try asking in #compiz-fusion, we dont have any extra plugins in our repos.
[18:57] <grindcore_> january same thing - stop on the *running local bott scripts - couple of times small flash of display and stop again :(
[18:57] <amadeux> guys? please help? when you do apt-get update, do you get this error near the bottom of the output: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)???? I can get any updates as long as this problem persists. How does your sources.list look like?
[18:57] <Pici> EhPrettyEasy: Compiz has nothing to do with Grub.
[18:57] <january7716831> im using copiz on gutsy right now
[18:57] <engida> : Hello, I installed phpMyAdmin from the Ubuntu Repos (7.10), however, pointing to myip/phpmyadmin, myip/phpMyAdmin  is not taking me to phpmyadmin. I have restarted apache and mysql after the install as well as restarted the machine + apt-get remove --purge and then reinstalled the package.... in my previous install of phpmyadmin, no setup was necessary, has anything changed?
[18:57] <bulmer> cutmerock we can remote connect to yours if you allow us :)
[18:57] <EhPrettyEasy> But it gives me a grub error
[18:57] <tds5016> oh, I'm sorry. pici. I was thinking I was in compiz-fusion.
[18:57] <EhPrettyEasy> about compiz fusion
[18:57] <cutmerock> lol how
[18:57] <EhPrettyEasy> that it has corrupted some files
[18:57] <grindcore_> january - i mean the first normal option - i will try now the recovery
[18:57] <EhPrettyEasy> in the universal thingy
[18:57] <cutmerock> im trying to figure out how to work remote connects on linux
[18:57] <EhPrettyEasy> universal repositories
[18:57] <afief> usser, unable to write 'random state'. it happens when I try to build-key-server
[18:57] <january7716831> its compiz fuzion
[18:57] <EdwardXP> my System beep isn't working, do you know where i can edit to make it work again?
[18:57] <usser> afief: u
[18:57] <tds5016> http://lj4newbies.blogspot.com/2007/09/3d-windows-cube-atlantis-and-more.html
[18:58] <Pici> cutmerock: Its not necessary for anyone to connect to your computer remotely nor for you to connect to anyone else, please do not ask for it or suggest it.
[18:58] <EhPrettyEasy> LOL GUYS
[18:58] <tds5016> that's what I was talking about.
[18:58] <EhPrettyEasy> GUESS WUT
[18:58] <EhPrettyEasy> U ALL SUCK ANUS
[18:58] <EhPrettyEasy> U ALL SUCK ANUS
[18:58] <usser> afief: u are using that openvpns easy-rsa right?
[18:58] <Copolycube> EdwardXP, modprobe pcspkr ?
[18:58] <usser> afief: do u run it as root?
[18:58] <january7716831> edward its under system prefs souds system beep
[18:58] <afief> usser, yes I'm using it. and no i'm not running it as root
[18:58] <autopilot> Bulmer>OK.eth1 is my wireless. It says IEEE nickname Broadcom 4311
[18:59] <usser> afief: but u should since u run it from directory only writable by root
[18:59] <january7716831> autopilot are you using gutsy
[18:59] <rbil> !ssh|cutmerock
[18:59] <ubotu> cutmerock: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:59] <bulmer> autopilot-> ahh shawks, you are going to hell with that broadcom thing..hehehe..infamous for difficulty getting it connected
[18:59] <afief> usser, oh i copied the files to a subdir of my $HOME directory
[18:59] <usser> afief: unless u copied easy-rsa dir to your home
[18:59] <EdwardXP> nothing happens wheni enter that command in
[18:59] <grindcore_> january so I selected the recovery mode and now i have konsole there - and I'm not good with konsole :(
[18:59] <usser> afief: ah i see
[18:59] <amadeux> guys? please help? when you do apt-get update, do you get this error near the bottom of the output: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)???? I can get any updates as long as this problem persists. How does your sources.list look like?
[18:59] <january7716831> try exit again
[18:59] <edd_> pl
[19:00] <amadeux> http://youtube.com/watch?v=49fVYmO3yv0&feature=related
[19:00] <bulmer> autopilot-> anyhow  type   iwlist eth1 scan
[19:00] <autopilot> january7716831>I do not know if using gutsy
[19:00] <edd_> polska
[19:00] <Pici> amadeux: Please dont paste links like that.
[19:00] <Pici> !pl | edd_
[19:00] <january7716831> you might have a bad cd becaus usaly it is flawless install
[19:00] <ubotu> edd_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[19:00] <grindcore_> january again flashing and stop on the same boot scripts :(
[19:00] <vick1> sorry I was looking at some thing else and didnt check the response to my question.  Has any one used wireless on ubuntu here? I mean like for more  than 6months ?    I recently installed ubuntu and find that the wireless driver in linux isn't as effective as the one in windows
[19:00] <Pici> amadeux: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:00] <Pici> 1paste | amadeux
[19:00] <Pici> !paste | amadeux
[19:00] <ubotu> amadeux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:00] <vick1> any that needs to be done in Ubuntu in particular?
[19:01] <vick1> using a netgear wireless usb wg111v2
[19:01] <afief> usser, so what to do?
[19:01] <autopilot> Bulmer>It said no search results
[19:01] <grindcore_> january - can u give link for good one please ?
[19:02] <amadeux> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46731/
[19:02] <EdwardXP> is there a terminal messenger
[19:02] <EdwardXP> that supports aim, yahoo msn... within gnome
[19:02] <usser> afief: i've never had this error
[19:02] <Pici> EdwardXP: finch, its pidgin's cli client.
[19:02] <january7716831> did you burn an iso image
[19:02] <usser> afief: is there any guide u following
[19:02] <EdwardXP> finch/
[19:02] <grindcore_> january yes
[19:02] <fihi09> EdwardXP: if you use irssi, try bitlbee
[19:02] <jaek> is there a way to install ubuntu without a CD?
[19:02] <afief> usser, the one on the openVPN homepage
[19:03] <joey722> how to install word 2003 with wine under my kubuntu gutsy??(have you any link to a step by step tutorial please)
[19:03] <Pici> !install > jaek (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[19:03] <january7716831> ok just go to the ubuntu web site and download gutsy
[19:03] <january7716831> it worked great for me
[19:03] <grindcore_> january - this i've done
[19:03] <amadeux> help: Can anyone tell me if "sudo apt-get install libgtkglext1" works on their machine?
[19:03] <jaek> Pici, thanks
[19:03] <autopilot> january7716831>I will install gutsy and see what happens
[19:03] <afief> usser, question 22 here seems to be it, but I cannot figure out how to solve it http://mia.ece.uic.edu/cgi-bin/lxr/http/source/FAQ?v=openssl-0.9.7a#L22
[19:04] <amadeux> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46731/
[19:04] <dlocaus> e2fsck cannot find the superblock for my /dev/sda and I've treid the 1k -4k block size -b numbers.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:04] <january7716831> what kind of machine are you installing on
[19:04] <Pici> amadeux: I saw it.  You need to remove the 'web' from the end of line 51, that shouldnt be there.
[19:04] <Tweek888> hello all
[19:04] <grindcore_> january laptop HP Compaq 6715b
[19:04] <|adam|> how do i install on theis os? via the terminal
[19:04] <january7716831> make sure you back up your data if you are going to do that
[19:04] <Tweek888> I am having a problem with samba, it wont display the contents of my local shared folders
[19:05] <Tweek888> but shows that the shared network exists
[19:05] <autopilot> Bulmer>Thank you for time and help. I have to get back to work. Signing off...I think...
[19:05] <january7716831> is that fairly new
[19:05] <usser> afief: thats what i used i dont know what might be the problem sorry worked perfectly for me :(
[19:05] <Tweek888> what could be wrong?
[19:05] <bulmer> autopilot-> i got disconnected..
[19:05] <january7716831> if it is an old computer you might try xubuntu
[19:05] <lusepuster_> |adam|, theis os??
[19:06] <january7716831> that is a smaller os
[19:06] <grindcore_> january - its amd 64 x2 tl-60, 2gb ram, ati radeon xpress 1250,...
[19:06] <amadeux> Pici, I still get the error when running apt-get update: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:06] <afief> usser, okay just a question since you already used VPN: when I ran the vars file the values were not exported(although I did see the warning printed through the echo command) any idea what I might have done wrong?
[19:06] <Pici> amadeux: Did you delete that web and save the file?
[19:06] <amadeux> Pici, yep
[19:06] <january7716831> did you download the 64 iso
[19:07] <Pici> amadeux: Oops, loosk yo like have it on the 5th and 10th lines too, or thereabouts.
[19:07] <grindcore_> yes i tried before - and same problem - and people here told me try 32bit version - everything is same, i cannot run ubuntu
[19:07] <Pici> s/loosk/looks
[19:07] <aladinsane> does anybody know how to capture a rtsp video stream in ubuntu? I have tried dumpstream with mplayer but it only dumps the audio
[19:07] <Tweek888> anyone know why samba wouldn't display contents of a local shared network?
[19:08] <bthornton> I'm trying to back up a root filesystem with TAR.  The filesystem only has 6GB of files on it, and I'm booted from a CD to make sure that the filesystem isn't in use when it's mounted.  The TAR archive I just created using "tar cf /mnt/root.tar .* *" is 13.7 GB .  Any ideas what happened?
[19:08] <amadeux> Pici, that worked!! I know that it shouldn't say web there. I don't know what put that there. Maybe medibuntu?
[19:08] <amadeux> Pici, thanks
[19:08] <Pici> amadeux: Shouldnt have been.  you're welcome :)
[19:08] <grindcore_> january - i can install without problem opensuse 10.3 any version, but i dont like this one. i want ubuntu
[19:08] <kazik> kazik
[19:08] <afief> usser, oh if you don't mind what is the "server's host name" supposed to be?
[19:08] <kazik> 1012809
[19:09] <usser> afief: sorry im at work the way i see it all these values dont matter, they can be setup to your liking
[19:09] <bulmer> bthornton-> you can visually check the contents of that tar file and see which directory were added that you didnt expect
[19:09] <xp_prg> hi all, I try to boot up ubuntu but it goes to this initramfs prompt, anyone know how I might troubleshoot this?
[19:09] <grindcore_> who know how to install ubuntu on this crazy laptop HP Compaq 6715b. please someone who have same machine
[19:09] <afief> usser, no problem. thanks
[19:10] <smookerPC1> which is the most used Game programming language in Linux (ubuntu ) ?
[19:10] <bthornton> bulmer: how?
[19:10] <EdwardXP> that finch is complicated
[19:10] <bulmer> bthornton-> have tried man tar yet? check the options of   -t
[19:10] <EdwardXP> i can't even send a message on it
[19:10] <usser> afief: also i remember there being easy-rsa 2.0?
[19:10] <usser> afief: is that what u use?
[19:11] <afief> usser, I think there was a subdirectory easy-rsa/2.0 I don't think I'm using it though... should i?
[19:11] <grindcore_> noone have same crap like me ? HP Compaq 6715b ???
[19:11] <usser> afief: thats what i used
[19:12] <IMYojimbo> Ubuntu minimal requirements say it only takes 500 mb to install. but the installation wants 2GB
[19:12] <chael> a
[19:12] <afief> usser, I'll try:)
[19:13] <Sam1337> I don't use ubuntu because it's easy I use it because it supports my fairly new hardware. Does anybody else only use Ubuntu for its great hardware support?
[19:13] <Kazisto> Ik will Op
[19:13] <Kazisto> :O
[19:13] <Copolycube> How to change the day the week starts in the clock-applet ?? (It starts on Sunday, which is anoying)
[19:13] <schusselkopp> :D
[19:13] <Sam1337> I personally think all the easy guis are noob overkill
[19:13] <Kazisto> Oder ik klopp euch alle zusammen :O
[19:13] <schusselkopp> Laughing Out Loud
[19:13] <Stormx2> Sam1337: That's part of why I use it. Only ubuntu hooks up with my MP3 player and Phone
[19:14] <usser> afief: also i think to export parameters like KEY_* system wide u need to run vars as root
[19:14] <rpj8> alright, could I stop gnome-settings-daemon from starting when a program starts by adding it to backlist or something similar?
[19:14] <Pici> !de | Kazisto
[19:14] <ubotu> Kazisto: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:14] <usser> afief: i'd guess so
[19:14] <Kazisto> !com | Pici
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about com - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <jklock> I use ubuntu because I like ubuntu and debian and with a little work, anything can be done, including what you use it for.
[19:14] <Kazisto> lol
[19:14] <rbil> Sam1337: I use Ubuntu for 2 main reasons ... it uses apt, not rpm and it is bleeding edge
[19:14] <Kazisto> !google | Pici
[19:14] <ubotu> Pici: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[19:14] <Kazisto> :D
[19:14] <Kazisto> rofl
[19:14] <Copolycube> Stormx2, what do you use to sync your phone (which model/brand) and your adbook (which soft ?) )
[19:14] <Pici> !botabuse | Kazisto
[19:14] <ubotu> Kazisto: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:14] <Kazisto> !kick | Pici
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <Kazisto> Yay
[19:15] <cocox> with which switches do you people recommend me to use netstat, just to get local and remote addr , ports, connection status and tcp udp
[19:15] <Sam1337> rbil: Yeah I had problems with rpm distributions and apt is so much easier and hasslefree.
[19:15] <Pici> cocox: I use netstat -tanp, but only because that works for me.
[19:15] <hardware-Rks> Just upgraded to Gutsy..  Now when I open a terminal or web browser the menu's are off the screen... I just see the bottom of my application... I must press ALT-SPACE and then select move and move it so I can see the menu's,,,  Is there a default open pixel location for gnome?
[19:15] <Stormx2> Copolycube: I use SynCE and Multisync
[19:15] <Kazisto> :(
[19:16] <Tuxthepenguin> #windows
[19:16] <bulmer> cocox also look at the usage of  lsof  it can show you who owns the connection
[19:16] <grindcore_> jklock can u help me ?
[19:16] <jklock> grindcore_ ill give it a shot
[19:16] <hans> pl
[19:16] <schusselkopp> Kazisto = Mephisto ?¿?
[19:16] <Kazisto> Jopp
[19:16] <cocox> Pici bulmer thank u
[19:16] <schusselkopp> *nüx mehr raff
[19:16] <Kazisto> löl
[19:16] <schusselkopp> löl
[19:16] <hans> polska
[19:16] <Kazisto> Das doofe Viech da hat mich gekick0rt oder so :(
[19:16] <grindcore_> jklock - come back to this private place if u want
[19:17] <Pici> !engliish | Kazisto
[19:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about engliish - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:17] <Terzo> What do I need to type in the termina to use ffmpeg to convert a flv file in my desktop folder to an avi file?
[19:17] <Pici> !english | Kazisto
[19:17] <ubotu> Kazisto: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:17] <Pici> I cant even spell today.
[19:17] <Kazisto> !english | Pici
[19:17] <ubotu> Pici: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:17] <Kazisto> xD
[19:17] <hans> pl
[19:17] <Copolycube> Stormx2, do you use Thunderbird ? Kontact ??
[19:17] <schusselkopp> löl
[19:17] <schusselkopp> weia
[19:17] <Stormx2> I use Evolution
[19:17] <hans> #ubuntu
[19:18] <afief> usser, same problem with version 2.0
[19:20] <hans> pl
[19:20] <Pici> hans: /j #ubuntu-pl
[19:21] <afief> usser, weird though, it DOES create the key and crt files
[19:21] <hans> #ubuntu-pl
[19:22] <usser> afief: hm,
[19:22] <usser> afief: well then why bother :)
[19:22] <ubuntu__> hi
[19:22] <Copolycube> Stormx2, ok thx/.
[19:22] <afief> usser, I just noticed:)
[19:22] <ubuntu__> HI
[19:23] <IMYojimbo> hi back
[19:23] <afief> usser, when I'm done with this, I just need to give my clients the certificates and they'll be able to connect to my server right?
[19:23] <IMYojimbo> ubuntu__: hi
[19:23] <spideyman> whats the paste bin again?
[19:23] <usser> afief: there was a nice table on the net somewhere of what is what in openvpn key management
[19:23] <Pici> !paste | spideyman
[19:23] <ubotu> spideyman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:23] <VSpike> I think I have a love/hate relationship with my OS
[19:23] <usser> afief: hang on i'll look it up
[19:24] <grindcore_> who can help me - i cannot run ubuntu after install - everytime stops at *running local boot scripts - which saying ok.
[19:24] <afief> usser, I mean I never set up a VPN before, and I didn't see anything in the guide saying "do this with the client and it'll connect"
[19:24] <VSpike> grindcore_: it could be that it can't mount the root partition
[19:25] <ubuntu__> Im having a problem while installing Ubuntu 7
[19:25] <BlaenkDenum> hey how can I list what devices are connected to my computer (i.e. /dev/sda1, etc.)
[19:25] <VSpike> BlaenkDenum: sudo fdisk -l
[19:25] <Tweek888> can someone help me with samba? it wont display the contents of my local shared folders
[19:25] <BlaenkDenum> thanks VSpike
[19:25] <usser> afief: yea u basically give the clients cert files and key files and point openvpn with client config file to that files and thats basically it
[19:25] <ubuntu__> I have low space HDD (1.6GB) and I read that Ubunto requires only ~300MB
[19:25] <grindcore_> VSpike is there some command line to test it someway - I'm newbie in linux
[19:25] <Pici> BlaenkDenum: also lshw will give you a rundown of everything connected.
[19:25] <BlaenkDenum> okay thanks pici
[19:25] <usser> afief: if u want i can even give u my config files
[19:25] <joey722> Please i want to install word 2003 with wine on my GUTSY.... in google i found different tutorials to do that and in reply people who folows it had problems.....
[19:25] <ubuntu__> but when I install it requires 2GB which I dont have
[19:25] <joey722> did any body install it before successfully?
[19:25] <linuxfan> does anyone know if there is an easy way to share an internet connection via wi-fi
[19:26] <VSpike> grindcore_: did you try the recovery mode option? that usually gives more infgo
[19:26] <Thurin1> ubuntu_: You MUST have more than 2gb for the livecd install.
[19:26] <afief> usser, it would be nice to try it with someone who already knows how it's done...
[19:26] <Thurin1> ubuntu_: If you have less than 2gb you have to take the server/text install
[19:26] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: hey
[19:26] <usser> afief: aha clients have to have root certificate, unique client sertificate and client key files
[19:26] <joey722> please help.... :'(
[19:26] <Thurin1> ubuntu_: When regular ubuntu is installed from the liveCD it takes about 2.1 gigs
[19:27] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: hmm can u be more specific?
[19:27] <grindcore_> VSpike - yes i tried and same problem :( now i have there this 3 choices for run - normal, recovery, memtest.
[19:27] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: ok so what do u suggest?
[19:27] <grindcore_> VSpike and waiting for some idea :)
[19:27] <spiffman> hi all, i'm having trouble reinstalling grub, i read the ubotu link, but when i "grub-install /dev/sda" it tells me "could not find device for /boot: not a found or not a block device"
[19:27] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: its my first exprience with linux :p so be gentle
[19:27] <spideyman> can someone help with this paste please  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46737/
[19:27] <VSpike> grindcore_: But in recovery mode, did you see anything about the root partition?
[19:28] <afief> usser, could you give me those files so i may connect to your network if you don't mind?
[19:28] <usser> afief: bummer i only have server config file
[19:28] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: Well I would either suggest you get the text mode installer.. or choose another Linux..
[19:28] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: what is the "text mode" installer?
[19:28] <usser> afief: actually i do mind sorry
[19:28] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: No offense to anyone in here, but Ubuntu is one of the more 'full-featured' distros - and 1.6gb will not cut it
[19:28] <grindcore_> VSpike - funny thing is - when i was installing ubuntu i dont have a option for setup root pasword , just user and thats it
[19:28] <afief> usser, no problem:)
[19:28] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: and what other linux do u suggest?
[19:28] <VSpike> ubuntu__: it's called the alternative install cd
[19:28] <usser> afief: i just cant.
[19:28] <Mr> i was wondering if someone could help me with configuring GRUB, to boot into BeOS
[19:28] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: Go to ubuntu - alternative
[19:28] <spiffman> !grub
[19:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:29] <VSpike> ubuntu__: try puppy, or maybe vector
[19:29] <BlaenkDenum> scguy318: hey are you there
[19:29] <afief> usser, hey it's no problem:D I know those things can be very private
[19:29] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: i have another HDD, with 1.3GB which makes3GB which should be enough :P
[19:29] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: I would recommend Archlinux.. for your disk size.. but you said your a newbie so... it may be a little too much
[19:29] <VSpike> grindcore_: that's normal for ubuntu
[19:29] <afief> usser, thanks to the help you provided i might be able to complete it smoothly though
[19:29] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: No... you have to have at least 2gb on the one drive
[19:29] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: yeah im newbie... yeah i got that, but u said i can install from "text" something..
[19:29] <evaklo> s
[19:29] <Thurin1> VSpike: I think vector is also about 1.5gb to install, maybe even two
[19:30] <evaklo> hello all
[19:30] <grindcore_> VSpike - so can we try something ? just tell me what and i will follow this instructions
[19:30] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: Yes ubuntu.com --- 'alternative CD'
[19:30] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: my question is, when im done installing it and all, how much space it will take?
[19:30] <Tweek888> anyone know how to fix samba when it wont display contents of a local shared folder?
[19:30] <Thurin1> It allows you to customize more - so you might be able to save some space
[19:30] <Mr> i was wondering if someone could help me with configuring GRUB, to boot into BeOS.
[19:30] <evaklo> there is someone who can help me to deploy an app with tomcat under ubuntu gutsy gibbon?
[19:30] <usser> afief: join #usser
[19:31] <VSpike> Thurin1: you could be right about vector
[19:31] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: www.vectorlinux.com - try that.. you MAY be able to work with that
[19:31] <VSpike> ubuntu__: try puppy - it's really neat and very light
[19:31] <Lapinux> grindcore_: if no one told you, when ubuntu asks for a password it wants your users password...
[19:31] <joey722> please help :'(
[19:31] <Thurin1> But most modern Linux'es .. which are 'newbie' friendly usually use at minimum 2gb
[19:31] <VSpike> ubuntu__: small download, very quick, runs off live CD or memory stick, can be installed to hd
[19:31] <VSpike> ubuntu__: nothing to lose by trying
[19:32] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: hmm i dun need something from programers :P
[19:32] <Pici> !appdb | joey722
[19:32] <ubotu> joey722: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[19:32] <ubuntu__> VSpike: im newbie :P is it easy to use?
[19:32] <Pici> joey722: further help in #winehq
[19:32] <evaklo> sorry, someone can help me with java+tomcat, Or if you know a channel about that
[19:32] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: No vector is pretty easy ...
[19:32] <Thurin1> Not as easy as Ubuntu.. but not far behind
[19:32] <fihi09> maybe ubuntu should offer enlightment or xfce wm install
[19:32] <Pici> evaklo: try #tomcat
[19:32] <VSpike> ubuntu__ : yes, I would say it is.  In appearance it's basic, but it's quite simple to operate
[19:32] <ubuntu__> be right back :O
[19:32] <Thurin1> fihi09: Get to work on that ;)
[19:32] <grindcore_> Lapinux so if i want to login like root i must put root and then password of the main user ?
[19:33] <VSpike> ubuntu__: like I say, give it a go.  It's a quick download, all you have to lose is one CDR
[19:33] <Pici> fihi09: Xubuntu comes with xfce, which is in the repos as xubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <joey722> ubotu  : i have already install wine.... i need a tuto to install word
[19:33] <Pici> joey722: Did you read that link at all?
[19:33] <Thurin1> Pici: Xubuntu is dead :|
[19:33] <Pici> Thurin1: What? No its not.
[19:33] <Thurin1> It went from speedy to .. Ubuntu with a tiny facelift
[19:33] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: anyway u said something about alternative.. how much space will it take later?
[19:33] <Mr> i was wondering if someone could help me with configuring GRUB, to boot into BeOS.
[19:33] <Thurin1> it's not what it used to be anywyas
[19:33] <fihi09> well then xubuntu should be much smaller than 2gb
[19:33] <Pici> Thurin1: Thats different than saying that  its dead.
[19:33] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: Depending on what you choose
[19:34] <Thurin1> fihi09: Not really.. it's 1.6gb
[19:34] <cocox> does anybody knows what does this netstat output means??                                          udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5353            0.0.0.0:*
[19:34] <Odd-rationale> My logout sound doesn't work. Log in sound is fine. and system sounds are fine. just when I logout, the .wav doesn't play. I already went to pref -> sounds. Is there something else I'm missing?
[19:34] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: can i choose what to install or not to?
[19:34] <Thurin1> Keep in mind that you should always have at least 60% free space in linux.. you get to 80% and the system gets real slow :|
[19:34] <giulio_> escuse me.....
[19:34] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: Somethings yes, some things no ...
[19:34] <giulio_> i want to ask a queston
[19:34] <VSpike> grindcore_: suggest you boot from the live cd and try to examine your hard drive
[19:35] <Pici> giulio_: Just ask :)
[19:35] <giulio_> ok
[19:35] <giulio_> welll
[19:35] <Thurin1> Archlinux allows you to choose everything .. but it's geared towards more advanced users
[19:35] <giulio_> when i use tremulous
[19:35] <Pici> !enter | giulio_
[19:35] <ubotu> giulio_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:35] <giulio_> the game...
[19:35] <ubuntu__> Thurin1: ok thx u guys, ill try alternative CD and the puppy (yes?)
[19:35] <ninjagambit_> anyone using hardy yet
[19:35] <fihi09> does the installer allow you to choose partitions for each directories?
[19:35] <giulio_> linux reduce the dimension of the window
[19:35] <giulio_> and i can't play
[19:35] <amarillion> Does anyone else find gutsy gets stuck trashing much more often than previous versions?
[19:35] <Thurin1> ubuntu__: Errr i'd stay away from puppy linux.. try Vectorlinux instead
[19:35] <kazim59> Is there any *good* ftp tool availible for linux??
[19:36] <ubuntuisloved> gftp
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> I like puppy linux
[19:36] <spideyman> can someone help with this paste please  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46737/
[19:36] <Thurin1> Odd-rationale: really?
[19:36] <pmb1> Hi
[19:36] <ubuntu__> what should be easier?
[19:36] <Mr> i was wondering if someone could help me with configuring GRUB, to boot into BeOS.
[19:36] <VSpike> Odd-rationale: I agree.
[19:36] <amarillion> I get at least once per week that I have to reboot because I've got a few big programs open and it just becomes plain unresponsive
[19:36] <giulio_> ehi pici
[19:36] <Thurin1> Meh, I prefer Vector .. more 'finished'
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> Thurin1: Sure!
[19:36] <giulio_> listen me!
[19:36] <cocox> does anybody knows what does this netstat output means??
[19:36] <cocox> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[19:36] <cocox> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5353          0.0.0.0:*                   -
[19:36] <kazim59> ubuntuisloved: gftp is not good
[19:36] <Thurin1> But then again I think that Vector is also bigger as well
[19:36] <qazwsx> is there an dictionary i can apt-get? (I want to be able to use it offline)
[19:36] <ubuntu__> oh.. bigger the ubuntu?
[19:36] <amarillion> It just sits there grinding and grinding. I don't remember this happening so much before
[19:36] <ubuntuisloved> what is it you wish to do kazim ?
[19:36] <pmb1> Problem with booting up Ubuntu...If I don't put the installation CD into the CD drive, it simply hangs.
[19:36] <giulio_> when i use tremulous on linux i can't play it because the window of the game is riduced!
[19:37] <amarillion> Anyone else see that?
[19:37] <giulio_> and i can't play it
[19:37] <VSpike> Thurin1: what's impressive about puppy is how usable it is for how small it is.  And how fast it is on old hardware.
[19:37] <kazim59> Is there any *intelligent* ftp tool availible on linux, that can automatically find and update changed/new files to the web server? FTP tool for web developers...?
[19:37] <ubuntuisloved> yea RSYNC
[19:37] <Thurin1> VSpike: true true
[19:37] <Tuxthepenguin> how can install ubuntu to fat32
[19:37] <pmb1> Any help would be greatly appreciated
[19:37] <VSpike> kazim59: I was wondering the same thing
[19:37] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: can you rsync to an ftp server?
[19:37] <Thurin1> I'm using Arch now... but I still admire Ubuntu's design
[19:37] <ubuntuisloved> YES
[19:38] <Pici> Tuxthepenguin: You don't, fat32 doesnt support permissions.
[19:38] <ubuntuisloved> man rsync
[19:38] <kazim59> VSpike: there's still no such ftp tool, somewhat cvs+ftp functionality
[19:38] <giulio_> someone can tell me how can i enter in the ubuntu linux italian IRC?
[19:38] <ubuntuisloved> rsync does FTP also
[19:38] <Thurin1> DSL is nice as well.. but not really as useable
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> giulio_: #ubuntu-it
[19:38] <Pici> giulio_:type this: /j #ubuntu-it
[19:39] <Odd-rationale> My favorite distro is still ubuntu, though.
[19:39] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: man rsync does not mention FTP
[19:39] <Mr> i was wondering if someone could help me with configuring GRUB, to boot into BeOS.
[19:39] <ubuntuisloved> http://www.opbyte.it/grsync/
[19:39] <ubuntuisloved> gui for rsync
[19:39] <aladinsane> when u do a dumpstream with mplayer is it possible then to somehow see how many percent or how much time is left of the "dumping"?
[19:39] <evaklo> anyone, please, can help me to find some solution (tomcat can't deploy any war at all) [or maybe you can give me another channel to asks]
[19:39] <Pici> Mr: Please ask in  #grub, that isnt really an Ubuntu issue.
[19:40] <ubuntuisloved> man rsync does mention it what version of rsync are you running
[19:40] <fihi09> so the installer doesn't allow you to choose partitions for different directory?
[19:40] <pmb1> Is this the correct place for issues with booting into Ubuntu?
[19:40] <Pici> pmb1: yes.
[19:40] <pmb1> Okay, thanks Pici
[19:40] <ubuntuisloved> rsync --version
[19:41] <pmb1> On my system, I must have the installation CD in the drive for Ubuntu to boot.
[19:41] <pmb1> I don't know why that is though.
[19:41] <grindcore_> is there some command line how i can check if my install of ubuntu is proper without some missing files or whatever else causing problems.???
[19:41] <Odd-rationale> How do I get the logout .wav to play on logout? I already went to pref -> sounds but it still doesn't work.
[19:41] <cocox> does anybody knows what does this netstat output means??
[19:41] <cocox> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[19:41] <cocox> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5353          0.0.0.0:*
[19:42] <grindcore_> ikonia can u help me ?
[19:43] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: rsync  version 2.6.9  protocol version 29
[19:43] <ubuntuisloved> same here i guess you should just use grsync
[19:44] <SoulinEther> after my upgrade to gutsy in october, my dvd writer no longer functions properly.. growisofs does not work
[19:44] <SoulinEther> it reads dvds just fine, but it cannot write
[19:44] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: i couldn't see from the screenshots how you make it update via ftp
[19:44] <hardware-Rks> Ubuntu 7.10 gutsy upgraded from 7.04... Problem...   When I open any X- application the header is off the screen. I must manually move it down..   Any ideas?
[19:44] <ubuntuisloved> one sec
[19:45] <zippytech> hello i have a system with 2 drives, once os and one data, i rebooted and lost the second drive, i can boot to a live cd and it works fine but i cannot mount dev/sdb1 already mounted or /160gig/ busy
[19:45] <ubuntuisloved> rsync rsync://ftp.handhelds.org
[19:45] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: it just has a standard browse button.  Can you just enter ftp://blah.org/pub/baz or something?
[19:45] <spideyman> anyone have webcam experience with gutsy
[19:45] <ubuntuisloved> let me try it here
[19:45] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: the remote must have an rsync daemon running for that to work though
[19:45] <andrew_> has anyone set up home dns server with Ubuntu?
[19:46] <Codenut> How do I get to use 2 screens with one Ubuntu machine (7.04)?
[19:46] <DHI0424> when you first start up an Ubuntu server how to you access rooot?
[19:46] <ubuntuisloved> so you dont have ssh access your saying
[19:46] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: in my case, no
[19:46] <DHI0424> I can't su to root and passwd root is not working
[19:46] <DHI0424> I forget how to do this
[19:46] <andrew_> DHI0424 what type of graphics card do you have
[19:46] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: not sure about kazim, he's gone :)
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
[19:46] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:46] <DHI0424> andrew_, I'm not using a graphics card
[19:46] <DHI0424> using console right now
[19:47] <Frederick> hallo folks Im up to install the last ubuntu and I got some questions, even with 4 gbram do I need swap? I got a 350 gb disk should I install ubuntu on the end of it or in the middle of my many 50 gb parts?
[19:47] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: I think maybe I could mount the remote using ftpfs
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> DHI0424: Note.. use gksudo for gui apps
[19:47] <andrew_> #Ubuntu-Wisconsin
[19:47] <andrew_> shit
[19:47] <andrew_> whoops
[19:47] <moot> Frederick: always swap
[19:47] <ubuntuisloved> yes you could do that
[19:47] <sake> #Ubuntu-pl
[19:47] <ubuntuisloved> that would be easier to allow rsync to work with it
[19:47] <ubuntuisloved> rsync is much better then ftp
[19:47] <spideyman> anyone have webcam experience with gutsy
[19:48] <DHI0424> Jack_Sparrow, how do I set the passwd for root? I just installed Ubuntu.
[19:48] <spideyman> can someone help with this paste please  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46737/
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: Keep is as close to first partition as possible so that future changes will not upset grub
[19:48] <ivanneto> I've just installed Ubuntu 7.10 32-bit and it sees only 3.3GB of my 4.0GB of RAM. Any ideas why?
[19:48] <DHI0424> I need to set the password and access root via the console.
[19:48] <saik0> Can i get an ubuntu live CD into single user (or some other no X) mode?
[19:48] <ubuntuisloved> sudo passwd root
[19:48] <bthornton> If I'm booting multiple Linux distros on the same machine (say, Fedora 6, Ubuntu Feisty, and Ubuntu Gutsy), is it necessary to have separate /boot partitions for each?  Or can the boot files all coexist peacefully on the same /boot partition?
[19:48] <|adam|> i have a usb headset
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> DHI0424: Really shouldnt do that
[19:48] <Frederick> Jack_Sparrow: in the 3rd partition so?
[19:48] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: yeah, agreed.  This is a windows server run by a hosting co, so i have to work with what they provide
[19:48] <|adam|> i havnt got no sound
[19:48] <Frederick> is it oki?
[19:48] <hoarycripple> why does X keep starting in tty9?  When gdm first starts, it starts on tty7.  then if I log out, it is on tty9.  Why is it doing this?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: 3rd is fine.. I assume you have a ton of logicals..
[19:49] <ubuntuisloved> yea some day im going to program a better gui for ftp for linux when i have much more time
[19:49] <moot> bthornton: check the contents of /boot in each distro, and i think you'll find an answer for yourself
[19:49] <DHI0424> it was sudo passwd root
[19:49] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: they do provide webdav I think - have a feeling that might be a way to do it
[19:49] <mirak> hi
[19:49] <DHI0424> thanks for not telling me.
[19:49] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: I like ncpftp
[19:49] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: ncftp even
[19:49] <mirak> is there a way to rollback an update of apt ?
[19:49] <VSpike> ubuntuisloved: not a gui though
[19:50] <ubuntuisloved> yes its available on command line
[19:50] <saik0> mirak: short answer: no. u can inastall pkgs from /var/cache/apt/pkg though
[19:50] <giulio_> please tell me the channel of wine thx
[19:50] <bthornton> moot: I'd say that, yes, they can coexist--since the kernel names are all unique.  I guess the question is: will the installers let me do this?  For example, say the next version of Ubuntu comes out and I want ot do a fresh install of that, will it let me use the same /boot ?
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> winehq
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> giulio_: #wine
[19:50] <spideyman> anyone have webcam experience with gutsy
[19:50] <VSpike> ivanneto: I think that's a limitation of the 32 bit address space
[19:50] <mirak> saik0: is there a log of apt installs ? I need to rollback libxine last updates
[19:50] <simon360> anyone here know how to customize the Ubuntu Live CD (ie the wallpaper, boot screen, etc.)? I have the filesystem extracted and mounted, but can't find the config files for the life of me
[19:50] <VSpike> ivanneto: will be the same with all 32 bit OS
[19:50] <VSpike> ivanneto: to use all 4GB you will need a 64 bit OS
[19:51] <ivanneto> VSpike, Shouldn't the milit be 2^32 = 4GB?
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> simon360: you might look at reconstructor
[19:51] <saik0> mirak, honestly i dunno
[19:51] <mirak> saik0: the date indicated on the files downloaded in archives is the one on the APT mirror or on my local disk ?
[19:51] <VSpike> hoarycripple: I've seen similar strange stuff.  Including the fast user switcher switching me to vt7 when my session is actually on vt10
[19:51] <simon360> Jack_Sparrow: I have, it doesn't seem to have been updated for 7.10, and I'm skeptical to use something that will "mostly" work
[19:51] <VSpike> ivanneto: the OS requires an area of the address space reserved for its own use too
[19:51] <spiffman> is there a way to move a file from one partition to another?
[19:52] <cocox> does anybody knows what does this netstat output means??
[19:52] <cocox> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[19:52] <cocox> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[19:52] <cocox> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:2208          0.0.0.0:*              LISTEN
[19:52] <cocox> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*              LISTEN
[19:52] <cocox> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:2207          0.0.0.0:*        	   LISTEN
[19:52] <nils__> moin
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> simon360: Go ahead.. wast a 10cent cd...  one quick way to find out
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> waste
[19:52] <hoarycripple> VSpike, have you come across any fix?  I saw a couple of possibly related issues, but no fix.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/136329
[19:52] <simon360> heh, true :P
[19:52] <VSpike> ivanneto: that is what's eaitng the missing ram
[19:52] <joey722> how can i extract .mdf file please??
[19:53] <ivanneto> VSpike: thanks.
[19:53] <VSpike> hoarycripple: no, although I haven't looked hard because I can work around it but it is irritating.  Do you use effects btw?
[19:53] <simon360> I have a CD that's partly customized, reconstructor will run on that I presume since hardly anything is changed, minus the gfxboot background and colors
[19:53] <Frederick> Jack_Sparrow: exactly
[19:53] <Frederick> 7
[19:53] <saik0> Is there any way to boot an ubuntu live CD with no GUI? or single user mode?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> simon360: I was beta tester for the earlier version.  I cant see any harm in trying it.
[19:53] <spideyman> joey 772 i think mdf  r made with alcohol 120
[19:53] <null> Hello, sometimes using my sata disk I get this error,  SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA, ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout), any idea how to fix?
[19:53] <moot> bthornton: backup, and try it
[19:54] <hoarycripple> VSpike, no effects here.  Are you using GDM also?  Maybe it is specific to GDM.  I'm wondering if using KDM or XDM will fix it.
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: 3 would be fine.. just hate to see you put it at 7 and have grub problems later
[19:54] <simon360> Jack_Sparrow: either way, it'll work better than morph8ix, which we were using :P
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[19:54] <simon360> and it was terrible, if anyone ever considers using it
[19:54] <Frederick> how much space more or less for the last ubuntu?
[19:55] <VSpike> hoarycripple: yes, i use gdm.  Was not sure if it was related to having effects enabled or not
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: go with at least 10... make a sep /home partiton as well
[19:55] <erUSUL> !specs
[19:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about specs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:55] <spideyman> anyone have webcam experience with gutsy
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[19:55] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[19:55] <hoarycripple> VSpike, i'm going to install xdm and see if it fixes.  will let you know.
[19:56] <Frederick> Jack_Sparrow: any need for swap? I got 4 gb ram
[19:56] <VSpike> hoarycripple: you may lose the fast user switcher function if that matters to you
[19:56] <simon360> Frederick: never hurts
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: 2 gig
[19:56] <Frederick> how big?
[19:56] <simon360> it's always good to use swap
[19:56] <VSpike> hoarycripple: although tbh I always thought the kdm version worked better
[19:56] <Frederick> 2 gig swap?
[19:56] <proprietarysucks> anyone know the kickstart command to make ubuntu not ask to continue after being unable to reach security.ubuntu.com or to turn this check off?
[19:56] <Frederick> ?!
[19:56] <simon360> 2GB
[19:56] <erUSUL> Frederick: even if it is never used it is good to have some swap
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: SOme people may say 4
[19:56] <simon360> swap should be half of the total ram
[19:56] <simon360> imo*
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[19:57] <jorman> hello
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> gotta run... later...  simon360  welcome to Ubuntu
[19:57] <simon360> haha
[19:57] <simon360> ty
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: that was meant for you
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[19:57] <Frederick> oki :)
[19:58] <Frederick> does the cd comes with a partitioner?
[19:58] <Odd-rationale> Frederick: Yes
[19:58] <isi> #ubuntu -de
[19:59] <hoarycripple> VSpike, It is a gdm problem
[19:59] <hoarycripple> VSpike, xdm works perfectly
[19:59] <Kopfgeldjaeger> whats the best way to encrypt a connection between $client and $squid_proxy_server (without ssh - for a windows mashine, firefox portable)
[19:59] <VSpike> hoarycripple: just had a problem here when my wife tried to switch users and ended up with a blank screen.  no vt switch worked, so i connected with ssh.  Found an X eating 100% cpu, so killed and the monitor twanged as it does when display switches but still blank.  Tried restart gdm, nothing.  Used sudo chvt 10 to get my session and logout.  Then tried killing gdm, still nothing.  Actually had to reboot the machine!
[20:00] <VSpike> hoarycripple: and people say linux is reliable :)
[20:00] <hoarycripple> VSpike, yes, this has happened to me before too.  usually happened when I was using something memory and cpu intensive (inside an X session).
[20:01] <VSpike> hoarycripple: Nothing intensive was running, apart from those runaway X sessions
[20:01] <hoarycripple> VSpike, very strange
[20:01] <rms> I would go to the forums but my mouse pointer is a hand everytime I click on something
[20:01] <hoarycripple> VSpike, maybe the cpu intensive stuff was just a coincidence
[20:01] <rms> and acts as a grabber...what might have caused this..anyone help me out
[20:02] <hoarycripple> VSpike, but I have had the exact same behaviour you are experiencing
[20:02] <Frederick> how big do I create my home partition?
[20:02] <hoarycripple> VSpike, will see how things work out with xdm
[20:02] <hoarycripple> although the default Xresources is pretty fugly
[20:02] <VSpike> hoarycripple: I've seen that before in edgy.  Sometimes a session switch would fail and you'd end up with a blank screen.  When you ssh in, you find an X at 100% CPU.  Kill it, and you get your greeter back, but the session is gone
[20:03] <hoarycripple> VSpike, yes, I've had to do this before, but I could never get the greeter back.  I would have to reboot
[20:03] <VSpike> hoarycripple: used to get it very occasionally in feisty, but less so.  But session switches always seem problematic.  They don't work if you have effects enabled, for example.
[20:03] <VSpike> hoarycripple: Oh I normally found a reboot was not needed - at most a restart of the display manager
[20:03] <hoarycripple> VSpike, last couple of times this happened to me I hosed the entire system
[20:04] <narothepharoh> whats the best player for avi movies?
[20:04] <eFfeM> hi, for some reason when X starts, metacity is not started any more, what would be the best & simplest way to fix this ?
[20:04] <|adam|> how do i install something in ubuntu?
[20:04] <eFfeM> narothepharoh, mplayer
[20:05] <VSpike> hoarycripple: Generally it seems not too bad in gutsy, but I should disable the effects again.  I don't care about the eye candy but I like the reduction in flickering.  But I can live without, and it seems to cause problems on every machine I've tried it on
[20:05] <eFfeM> |adam|, use synaptic
[20:05] <erUSUL> !synaptic | |adam|
[20:05] <ubotu> |adam|: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[20:05] <drew_chicago> Anyone else notice system clock isn't keeping accurate time? Ubuntu 7.10 all updates
[20:05] <eFfeM> |adam|, in system/administration
[20:05] <hoarycripple> VSpike, i'm not using any effects...not even using GNOME
[20:05] <VSpike> hoarycripple: what are you using? fluxbox?
[20:06] <|adam|> ok
[20:06] <hoarycripple> VSpike, enlightenment cvs
[20:06] <VSpike> hoarycripple: oh, i looked at it ages ago but never tried it
[20:06] <bthornton> Can the swap partition on a Linux system be in LVM?
[20:06] <ferronica> xsensors showing blank window :(
[20:06] <VSpike> hoarycripple: I always used kde up to now, just giving gnome a spin
[20:06] <eFfeM> how does metacity normally start ? It does not start automatically for me any more
[20:07] <narothepharoh> eFfem: are there any plugins I need to install?
[20:07] <VSpike> hoarycripple: I could enable kdm again i suppose but it annoys my wife when I "change the way the computer works" :)
[20:07] <hoarycripple> VSpike, enlightenment cvs is a completely different beast nowadays (of course I don't know exactly how long ago you tried it).
[20:07] <eFfeM> narothepharoh, i think you only need mplayer; let me check
[20:07] <erUSUL> eFfeM: add it to the session? System>Preferences>Sesion? metacity --replace?
[20:07] <VSpike> hoarycripple: probably 8 years ago :D
[20:08] <|adam|> what do i do?drag the files in there?
[20:08] <erUSUL> !synaptic | |adam|
[20:08] <ubotu> |adam|: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[20:08] <erUSUL> |adam|: please read the wiki page
[20:08] <eFfeM> narothepharoh, suggest to install mplayer using synaptic
[20:09] <Tweek888> can someone help me with samba, I can't see the contents of my shared folders
[20:09] <hoarycripple> VSpike, haha, yeah, you should give it another go...I guess you were using the EFM rewrite back then...or even E16 cvs?
[20:09] <unkmar> I have a PC with a nVidia MX440 video card.  The "Extra" Visual Effects will not work unless a driver is downloaded.
[20:09] <asathoor> !xorg.conf
[20:09] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:09] <Tweek888> or the members of a local network
[20:09] <VSpike> hoarycripple: I looked at fvwm and gnustep and twm and enlightenment
[20:09] <eFfeM> erUSUL, thanks, will give it a try
[20:09] <VSpike> hoarycripple: Hmm can't remember - I really only had a quick look :)
[20:09] <|adam|> what is wiki?
[20:09] <unkmar> I'm running from the Live CD.  The driver downloads and installs but requires a reboot for the changes to take effect.
[20:10] <unkmar> Clearly, a reboot removes the downloaded changes.  Suggestions?
[20:10] <erUSUL> unkmar: actuallt install ubuntu ;D
[20:10] <lusepuster_> unkmar, liveCD's will not work with hardware that doesn't work out of the box
[20:11] <narothepharoh> eFfem: I have installed and it gives me a fatal error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[20:11] <unkmar> How about a LiveDVD? Will that solve the problem? Will it possibly have the drivers that are needed?
[20:11] <VSpike> hoarycripple: Getting my wife a windows laptop for xmas and then we won't have to share a computer any more and then I can do what I like to it.  She will be much happier.  Linux is too unreliable for an average user who has nil troubleshooting ability.
[20:11] <danbhfive> unkmar: whats the driver for?
[20:11] <void^> narothepharoh: which video out device did you select?
[20:12] <jsoftw> Im good at trouble shooting, and I find windows a pain in the ass.
[20:12] <Benjie> Xorg keeps freezing, I am not sure why. I think it is caused by me playing a game (Xmoto) and then me trying to watch fullscreen TV (mythfrontend) when my desktop is managed under Compiz-Fusion (NVidia).
[20:12] <jsoftw> Not for normal use, mind you, but for servers and things which I am involved with.
[20:12] <narothepharoh> void: I havnt
[20:12] <eFfeM> narothepharoh, this has to do with your video device; no idea how to troubleshoot this
[20:12] <gnuskool> !wiki
[20:12] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[20:12] <void^> narothepharoh: uh, you're using graphical mplayer? go into the options and select xv.
[20:12] <hoarycripple> VSpike, well, i find it to be pretty reliable :) but you're right...my wife too tries to use it and she doesn't like it.  I commandeered her thinkpad and put debian on it and she did not appreciate that at all (saved all her data though).
[20:12] <mirak> how can I installa specific version with apt-get ?
[20:12] <eFfeM> erUSUL, i tried to add in the session manager but it does not show up, so decided to hack it in into /usr/share/gnome/default.session
[20:12] <asathoor> !screen
[20:12] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[20:13] <VSpike> jsoftw: yeah I'm talking about word processing, internet, email.. basic desktop use
[20:13] <unkmar> nVidia MX440 video card.
[20:13] <gnuskool> VSpike: u mean average users a re too unreliable for a system like linux?
[20:13] <xivanari> how do i update my xorg.conf file automatically
[20:13] <danbhfive> unkmar: i think you can just hit ctrl+alt+backspace and restart X
[20:13] <Benjie> Just playing the game, or just watching TV is fine, but if I play the game and then close it, and later watch TV, the computer freezes - even the keyboard stops working! I have to either do magic keys, or SSH in remotely and kill Xorg, which is using obscene amounts of CPU
[20:13] <gnuskool> :D
[20:13] <xivanari> like, from the terminal have it updated via the internet
[20:13] <xivanari> or reset
[20:13] <erUSUL> xivanari: update? System>Admin>Screen & graphics
[20:13] <MikeH_> evening all
[20:13] <gnuskool> g'day
[20:14] <xivanari> no erUSUL i mean via the terminal
[20:14] <unkmar> danbhfive: Tried that. Ubuntu keeps demanding a restart of the machine.
[20:14] <erUSUL> xivanari: in console try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[20:14] <xivanari> erUSUL: screen and graphics gui doesnt work.
[20:14] <xivanari> thank you thats what i was looking for
[20:14] <MikeH> I've just installed ubuntu, and I cant get my resolution in gnome any higher than 1152xwhatever
[20:14] <MikeH> can anyone advice how to get it upto 1600x1200?
[20:14] <erUSUL> !fixres | MikeH
[20:14] <ubotu> MikeH: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:14] <flush> okay wow whats the deal now
[20:14] <unkmar> danbhfive: Is it possible I could use a boot option and a (Thumb Drive, Floppy or something)?
[20:15] <erUSUL> MikeH: System>Admin>Screen & graphics
[20:15] <VSpike> hoarycripple: it's reliable in a different sort of way I think.  Like I've always had problems with user switching since hoary.  Sometimes cups has to be restarted, or samba crashes out.  You hardly ever have to reboot it, fair enough, but to a knows nothing user it all stops them doing what they need to do, and then they need an expert to make it work.  Or they reboot to solve the problem.
[20:15] <flush> yo
[20:15] <Kirua> make ALT + F4 for see something very funny !
[20:15] <flush> i just upgraded to gusty
[20:15] <narothepharoh> void: there is no options tab. you mean preferances?
[20:15] <flush> and now i have the Xgl process runing eating 100% of my cpu
[20:15] <danbhfive> unkmar: well, is it working?  I mean, you can ignore that message i think, especially if its working, otherwise,... Re: i have no idea
[20:15] <flush> how the hell do i desactivate it
[20:15] <flush> if i kill it, X dies
[20:15] <void^> narothepharoh: yes. there should be video settings somewhere.
[20:16] <lusepuster_> Kirua, that closes a window, why is that funny?
[20:16]  * Kirua make something very funny ! make ALT + F4 for see
[20:16] <|adam|> how do i install already downloaded software?
[20:16] <flush> ??? anyone knows
[20:16]  * Kirua make something very funny ! make ALT + F4 for see
[20:16] <VSpike> hoarycripple: There are small but annyoing bugs in open office.  Sometimes it wont open a word file properly, or the files it creates kill word.
[20:16] <lusepuster_> |adam|, what software, and what did you download?
[20:16] <unkmar> danbhfive: And no, it still doesn't work.  :(
[20:16] <atlef> |adam|: what are you trying to install
[20:16] <narothepharoh> void yes there is but nowhere to select xv
[20:16] <hoarycripple> VSpike, that's a fair assessment :)  Ok, xdm is functioning normally and doesn't look so fugly anymore.  Now to try the process which caused my system to die...
[20:16] <Tweek888> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39905 I've got this problem, does anyone know more about it?
[20:17] <stefano> i have a telnet chat, can i use this with ssh without having to go through the sources?
[20:17] <void^> narothepharoh: preferences, video, "available drivers:" should list "xv   X11/Xv".
[20:17] <bulmer> stefano-> yes, you have to create the tunnel though to make it secure
[20:18] <narothepharoh> void: it gives me available drivers but no way to configure
[20:18] <VSpike> hoarycripple: you could argue all the problems are caused by the nvidia driver, windows clients crashing samba and trying to interoperate with MS Word. And my commercial printer driver for my canon printer.  And it's probably true.  But my wife wouldn't get that argument :)
[20:18] <PiesBot> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[20:18] <hoarycripple> VSpike, hahaha true.
[20:18] <narothepharoh> void: when i click on it nothing happens
[20:18] <void^> narothepharoh: just select it and hit ok.
[20:19] <stefano> bulmer, i thought of an unpriviledged user that has telnet localhost as his shell in the passwd file. won't that work?
[20:19] <narothepharoh> void: still getting the same error
[20:19] <VSpike> hoarycripple: mind you, the grass is always greener.  If it get too misty eyed about windows (which I quit about a year ago), I just need to try and use it for a while and I run screaming
[20:19] <bulmer> stefano-> i dont follow what are you getting at
[20:19] <void^> narothepharoh: even after restarting mplayer?
[20:20] <stefano> bulmer, i mean i create an ssh user who is unprevileded, so he cannot connect via sftp. than i set his login shell to telnet localhost, so that when he logs in, he gets connected to the telnet chat
[20:21] <|adam|> lusepuster_: i have a logitech g15 keyboard and i want he lcd to work
[20:21]  * steve_Office is away: Im out of Here bbl
[20:21] <|adam|> so i have donloaded 515 daemon
[20:21] <narothepharoh> void: yes
[20:21] <rafal> is ubuntu a real system?  2 days of using -> found over 15 bugs, wtf?
[20:21] <hoarycripple> VSpike, I can't use windows at all.  It is just too frustrating.
[20:22] <VSpike> hoarycripple: Ya, although cygwin makes it comfier
[20:22] <bulmer> stefano that dont seem right, any user can telnet in to your system and then he gets a telnet chat?
[20:22] <hoarycripple> VSpike, ok, wish me luck...running that process that borked my system.  If I drop off of IRC, you know why :)
[20:22] <void^> narothepharoh: that means hardware accelerated video overlays aren't available - are you using a proper graphics driver?
[20:22] <VSpike> hoarycripple: good luck!
[20:22] <lusepuster_> |adam|, what did you download?
[20:22] <gnuskool> rafal: in 2 days ur able to determine whats a real ssytem?
[20:22] <narothepharoh> void: I do not know. how to tell?
[20:22] <stefano> bulmer, right now, yes, but i want it to be via ssh so that its secure
[20:23] <stefano> and make sure one can not escape from the chat and get a shell or something
[20:23] <rafal> gnuskool: I am using 7.10 it is supposed to be fully functionall?
[20:23] <bulmer> stefano-> by default telnet is unsecure..so which part of telnet does it become secure?
[20:23] <rafal> bulmer: uhm.. by using ssh?
[20:23] <stefano> telnet is not forwarded at my nat gateway, so nobody can connect to the machine
[20:23] <xivanari> hello i am having some issues with the intel drivers and them just not working
[20:24] <void^> narothepharoh: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:24] <xivanari> the system is continuously reverting to the vesa drivers even when i change them in the screens and graphics to the proper i810 driver
[20:24] <decko> hi people. My debconf is not writing the Section "Files" on xorg.conf. This happens to someone?
[20:24] <narothepharoh> void: type this in console?
[20:24] <bulmer> rafal-> i dont know what he is attempting to do, id let him explain it
[20:24] <void^> narothepharoh: yes. there should be a gui way, but i'm not on ubuntu right now.
[20:25] <Tweek888> I am having problems with samba, it wont display contents of shared folders
[20:25] <|adam|> \lusepuster_:  i downloaded these packages i need to install to get my keyboard working http://www.g15tools.com/Welcome.html
[20:25] <Tweek888> what causes this?
[20:26] <Tweek888> I have uninstalled it and reinstalled already.
[20:26] <en0x1> hey all
[20:26] <narothepharoh>  void: this is what it says> Driver          "kbd"
[20:26] <narothepharoh>         Driver          "mouse"
[20:26] <narothepharoh>         Driver          "wacom"
[20:26] <narothepharoh>         Driver          "wacom"
[20:26] <narothepharoh>         Driver          "wacom"
[20:26] <narothepharoh>         Driver          "mga"
[20:26] <en0x1> is there an application taht will allow another user or root to view what is displayed in the console of an already logged in user
[20:26] <en0x1> not VNC
[20:26] <en0x1> no x involved.
[20:26] <asathoor> Tweek888 >> look at the settings in smb.conf
[20:26] <Profanephobia> !paste > narothepharoh
[20:26] <Tweek888> asathoor, where is it?
[20:26] <narothepharoh> sorry
[20:26] <Profanephobia> np
[20:27] <MikeH> en0x1, screen.....
[20:27] <asathoor> Tweek888 >> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[20:27] <Tweek888> thanks
[20:28] <void^> narothepharoh: hrm, mga should support overlays - what video card are you using?
[20:28] <lusepuster_> |adam|, you might have to recompile your kernel and stuff, I'll have to pass on that. I'm no guru and it's kinda guru stuff
[20:28] <en0x1> screen?
[20:28] <en0x1> taht allows you to view another consoles screen? never used it that way before only used it to detach sessions
[20:29] <asathoor> Tweek888 >> check if the settings are correct. Sometimes you have to change the chmod of the directory'
[20:29] <narothepharoh> void it is nothing special just says mga
[20:29] <Tweek888> ok asathoor
[20:29] <MikeH> Can anyone tell me how I can find the features demonstrated in this video (1:30 on)
[20:30] <MikeH> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ&feature=related
[20:30] <hoarycripple> VSpike, wow, X is completely hosed again.
[20:30] <lusepuster_> |adam|, , wait, maybe not, let me check further
[20:30] <VSpike> hoarycripple: oops :)
[20:30] <hoarycripple> VSpike, just getting a bunch of snow on the monitor
[20:30] <hoarycripple> VSpike, can't get another greeter back :(
[20:30] <VSpike> hoarycripple: oh wow, OK ... *really* hosed
[20:30] <bhagman88> hello!
[20:30] <ompaul> !compiz | MikeH
[20:30] <ubotu> MikeH: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[20:31] <bhagman88> I have just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and I was wondering if someone could help me install some programs so I cang et the hang of it!
[20:31] <bhagman88> as you can see I am a complete newb
[20:31] <void^> narothepharoh: matrox has produced a large number of different graphics chips in their history. you aren't running desktop effects, are you?
[20:31] <hoarycripple> VSpike, yeah, but it is just X. !!! why the heck is this happening?  well, i'm in using ssh...going to reboot...
[20:32] <hoarycripple> brb
[20:32] <atlef> bhagman88: which programs?
[20:32] <saik0> Can i get the live cd to boot with no X?
[20:32] <bhagman88> well I'd like to get azureus first
[20:32] <atlef> bhagman88: have a look at synaptic package manager
[20:32] <Tweek888> still doesn't work asathoor
[20:32] <dick_> can i get some one to do a little test for me. i need you to go to an ip address.
[20:32] <Tweek888> I am not quite sure what to do, I believe the permissions are correct
[20:32] <Chuckles> why would ubuntu allow me to ssh to my machine from my machine but not from another one?  would firestarter firewall stop this?
[20:33] <bthornton> How do I find the UUID of an ext3 filesystem?
[20:33] <atlef> bhagman88: or add/remove programs on the menu
[20:33] <bhagman88> oo
[20:33] <bhagman88> ok
[20:33] <lusepuster_> |adam|, sorry, don't have time for that
[20:33] <bhagman88> hmm
[20:33] <hypn0> has anyone managed to install realplayer in 7.10?
[20:33] <dr_evil> bthornton ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid or something like that
[20:33] <bhagman88> I jsut went to add/remove
[20:33] <bhagman88> and it came up with an error
[20:34] <bhagman88> Failed to check for insalled and available applications
[20:34] <rbil> dick_ what do u need?
[20:34] <bhagman88> "
[20:34] <bhagman88> This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with synaptic, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'."
[20:34] <MikeH> ompaul, any idea why xgl or aiglx isn't a dependency of compiz?
[20:34] <SpookyET> Hi. I'm on a laptop with a touchpad. I'm wondering how to make the compiz cube 3d. How do you zoom out and make it spin? CTRL+ALT+Left/Right/Down is all that seems to work.
[20:35] <dick_> rbil, can you go to this ip and tell me what you see. 71.211.24.210
[20:35] <ompaul> MikeH, cos the game has moved along? (my guess on that one)
[20:35] <SpookyET> How is compiz able to achieve this speed while vista crawls with 1% of the effects
[20:35] <dwxreaper> how do I change a users path variable
[20:35] <Tweek888> dick_, a login screen
[20:35] <dick_> dam router
[20:36] <rbil> dick_ how do i describe what I see ... 3 frames, iam_backup in top and left, other stuff
[20:36] <dick_> you should have seen my proxy what about 71.211.24.210:8080
[20:36] <Tweek888> dick_, a router wont generally block outward connections
[20:36] <narothepharoh> void: i dont know? you mean screen saversw etc?
[20:36] <saik0> SpookyET, by writing good software
[20:36] <B-rabbit> hi guyz, i have got a bit of a problem with my update manager, when i finish an update i get an error message saying "E: proftpd: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" does anyone know what this means
[20:36] <dick_> that screen is to login to the web interface for the router not the web server in the dmz
[20:36] <rbil> dick_ using 8080, get error
[20:36] <ompaul> SpookyET, who knows what is under the bonnet of that other thing
[20:37] <MikeH> hrm
[20:37] <rbil> requested URL could not be retrieved.
[20:37] <dwxreaper> in the GUI I don't see an option to change PATH for a user, and I don't see a .bashrc file for the user
[20:37] <MikeH> Is Compiz already running on the latest ubuntu version by default?
[20:37] <dwxreaper> how do I change the PATH variable for a user
[20:37] <dick_> does the last line read like this Generated Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:36:33 GMT by CRLStestingserver.domain.actdsltmp (squid/2.5.STABLE12)
[20:37] <Tweek888> how does one troubleshoot samba?
[20:37] <rbil> yes
[20:37] <SpookyET> ompaul: a lawn mower engine
[20:37] <blahdeblah> dwxreaper: create a .bashrc for the user
[20:37] <Tweek888> I really don't know what to do
[20:37] <xivanari> can anyone help me get an intel integrated graphics card driver working? I have had it working before, but my system keeps reverting to the vesa drivers everytime i click ok on the screens and graphics configuration utility.
[20:37] <ompaul> MikeH, you can use it a lot easier if your card works well with compiz (don't ask me I don't do it)
[20:38] <blahdeblah> Tweek888: Log files (look in /var/log/samba/) and SWAT (on port 901)
[20:38] <Chuckles> why would ubuntu allow me to ssh to my machine from my machine but not from another one?  would firestarter firewall stop this?
[20:38] <void^> narothepharoh: no, desktop effects, as in compiz. can be enabled in the appearance settings.
[20:38] <dwxreaper> blah: any easier way then that, I don't want to make a file
[20:39] <dwxreaper> like echo newpath | $PATH , then something to save it
[20:39] <blahdeblah> dwxreaper: It doesn't get much easier than making a file...  ;-)  If you want to do it for all users, use /etc/profile.
[20:39] <SpookyET> Do I need a Firewall?
[20:39] <dick_> well that is good to a point let me make a change and lets see if i can not get the dam router to give up port 80 and forward in on in the the dmz
[20:39] <mdmkolbe|ubuntu> What application does ubuntu provide for viewing the contents of a previously prepared iso file?
[20:39] <smookerPC1> lolz smooker has been idle for 1 day :P time to wake him up :P hmm does linux take RAM like Windows when its not rebooted from days ?
[20:39] <dwxreaper> doing it for all users doesn't seem to bad
[20:39] <rbil> dick_ what kinda router?
[20:39] <dwxreaper> blah: what do i type in /etc/profile
[20:39] <dwxreaper> just PATH=?
[20:39] <blahdeblah> I just upgraded from feisty to gutsy, and it installed 3 different kernels: 386, generic, and server.  I can't find any meaningful description of the differences - how should i choose?
[20:40] <blahdeblah> dwxreaper: yes, just PATH=$PATH:/your/new/path
[20:40] <dwxreaper> ok, then how do I reload the path variable for the user
[20:40] <B-rabbit> Chuckles, i don't know the answer to the first bit for ur question but its some thing to do with looping, any yes firstertern can stop the connection if u issue a policy
[20:40] <smookerPC1> ah
[20:40] <rbil> blahdeblah: use generic
[20:40] <smookerPC1> my konversation crashed :(
[20:40] <blahdeblah> mdmkolbe|ubuntu: mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/
[20:41] <narothepharoh> void: I dont think so
[20:41] <Tweek888> blahdeblah, http://rafb.net/p/JM6ubG13.html that's from log.smbd
[20:41] <blahdeblah> dwxreaper: Type the same thing on the command line.  If you want it to take effect in the GUI, they'll need to log out & back in.
[20:41] <smookerPC1> my other PC Conversation Crashed LOL
[20:41] <blahdeblah> rbil: Can you point me to any further information about why?  :-)
[20:41] <smookerPC1> blank screed (dark)
[20:41] <narothepharoh> void where is the apperance setting?
[20:41] <abel__> list
[20:41] <abel__> hi all
[20:41] <smooker> now its fine nvm
[20:42] <abel__> try to install some irc client
[20:42] <rbil> blahdeblah: if you do a fresh install of gutsy it defaults to using generic. ... good enuf reason?
[20:42] <Sinned> Do you know a dutch ubuntu irc chat
[20:42] <Pollman> Can someone help me get the nVidia drivers working on gutsy?
[20:42] <blahdeblah> rbil: reason, yes; explanation, no.  ;-)
[20:42] <abel__> who know if exist Reason Propellerhead for linux
[20:43] <dick_> rbil, try 71.211.24.210 now and let me know what you get plz
[20:43] <rbil> dick_ same as before
[20:43] <dick_> ok thank you
[20:43] <Nelsmar> hey anyone bored and wanna help me figure out what the problem is with my compiz on my laptop? :P
[20:43] <blahdeblah> Tweek888: I don't know enough about those messages to help you.  Try asking in the samba channel.  It's likely to have less noise than this one...
[20:43] <Nelsmar> my cpu usage shoots to 100% when enabled and.... i dplsay at 1 frame every 1-3 seconds
[20:44] <Nelsmar> it used to work o.0
[20:44] <JNLord> how can i configure ubuntu to authenticate users (Wifi)connected to another pc (XP)
[20:44] <Tweek888> ok
[20:44] <Tweek888> thanks :)
[20:44] <void^> narothepharoh: pastebin the output of lspci, xvinfo and glxinfo. perhaps we'll actually have an idea of what you're running then.
[20:44] <dick_> rbil,  what about now 71.211.24.210
[20:44] <mdmkolbe|ubuntu> thx, blahdeblah.  that worked like a charm
[20:45] <rbil> dick_ no change
[20:45] <dick_> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[20:45] <blahdeblah> mdmkolbe|ubuntu: np
[20:45] <MikeH> Hrm, I'm having trouble working something out? I have latest version of ubuntu, and I'm guessing compiz is running, I have that wobbly window type thing, however the videos I've seen have lots more features?
[20:45] <rbil> dick_ what is it you're hoping I'd see?
[20:45] <MikeH> Is there any kind of config or addons I need?
[20:45] <Nelsmar> mikeh you need to enable advanced options
[20:45] <mylogicbot> I have a Dell 1420N and I am trying to get 7.10 installed. I keep getting an error upon reboot that says "Failed to load module intel" (I've read the page that says changing this will fix the problem) Can anyone help?
[20:46] <Nelsmar> do custom at the bottom of the window
[20:46] <Sharpie> general question - what's the difference between the 64 and 32bit versions of ubuntu? i've been working on 32bit ubuntu for over a month and i'm just wondering. and also, is 64bit ubuntu a pain in the butt like 64 bit windows (as in, horrible incompatible with loads of stuff)?
[20:46] <blahdeblah> So anyone else feel like explaining the difference between generic & server kernels to me?  I found out that 386 has SMP turned off whereas generic has it on, but what about server?
[20:46] <Nelsmar> i think its there with the out of the box setup i cant remember... you might have to install the config manager
[20:46] <blahdeblah> Sharpie: Mostly it is less pain, however there will be certain things that don't work, like flash in your browser.
[20:46] <Sharpie> blahdeblah, meaning that i should stick to 32bit? (i have a 64bit AMD proc.)
[20:47] <Alyxander> how do i just boot to console and not start x
[20:47] <blahdeblah> Sharpie: I'm running 64-bit Debian, and it's pretty much smooth sailing except for Flash and getting a working version of Lightning calendar for Thunderbird.  I pretty much love not having to put up with Flash ads in my browsing.
[20:47] <Terrasque> Sharpie: 64bit is atm more pain and generally more bugs than 32bit
[20:47] <Sharpie> that's all i needed to know =o
[20:47] <Sharpie> Alyxander, boot up in recovery mode
[20:47] <Pollman> Can someone help me get Compz-Fusion working on gutsy?
[20:48] <Sinned> join #ubuntu-nl
[20:48] <narothepharoh> void how do i pastebin? and how do i check all of that?
[20:48] <Pollman> The problem is the Nvidia restricted drivers I thinhk
[20:48] <wols_> Pollman: what videocard?
[20:48] <Nelsmar> lol so many problems with compiz :P
[20:48] <wols_> !paste
[20:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:48] <Nelsmar> mine worked!!!! till i dont remember what i broke XD
[20:48] <Pollman> wol1s_ Nvidia 6100
[20:48] <wols_> !nvidia
[20:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:48] <MikeH> Pollman, I'm trying to figure this out too, I set my visual display as best in appearance settings
[20:48] <MikeH> and it appears to be running, just with not so many features?
[20:49] <Pollman> I can't even get it running
[20:49] <Sharpie> MikeH, choose custom
[20:49] <malifIwerearichm> I want to run a RAID over the network
[20:49] <Pollman> when I enable the extra effects and restart
[20:49] <malifIwerearichm> one drive on one machine
[20:49] <mylogicbot> I have a Dell 1420N and I am trying to get 7.10 installed. I keep getting an error upon reboot that says "Failed to load module intel" (I've read the page that says changing this will fix the problem) Can anyone help?
[20:49] <malifIwerearichm> one drive on the other
[20:49] <Sharpie> MikeH, if you don't have it: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:49] <malifIwerearichm> that sort of thing
[20:49] <slimjimflim> can anybody recommend a pls and asx player?
[20:49] <blahdeblah> malifIwerearichm: You probably want drbd
[20:49] <MikeH> Sharpie, chooise custom?
[20:49] <Pollman> it goes into 600x800 and says theres a problem with the video card and will run in low graphics mode
[20:49] <jaek> does grub4dos read ntfs partitions?
[20:49] <slimjimflim> or plugin
[20:50] <narothepharoh> void: how do i pastebin?
[20:50] <Sharpie> MikeH, if you have the settings manager, you can choose between none, normal, extra and custom
[20:50] <MikeH> Sharpie, I'm on gutsy and can only see none, normal and extra.
[20:50] <malifIwerearichm> thanks blahdeblah
[20:50] <Sharpie> MikeH, if you don't have it: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:51] <malifIwerearichm> do you know of any server farm OS's
[20:51] <Alyxander> ty Sharpie
[20:51] <void^> !pastebin | narothepharoh
[20:51] <MikeH> Sharpie, Just done that, I'm looking for it now :P
[20:51] <ubotu> narothepharoh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:51] <malifIwerearichm> that I might could run a VM on?
[20:51] <MikeH> Oh, GL Desktop
[20:51] <Alyx|BB> sharpie how do I do that?
[20:51] <MikeH> Sharpie, Ok, so I found that, but when I try and open it, the screen jigs, and nothing happens?
[20:51] <SpookyET> I have switched to Ubuntu from Vista for the time being, maybe forever. It's not on my hard drive anymore. Anyway, is there a chance that I can drop the Thunderbird and Firefox profiles and have them work. I don't feel like reinstalling all my extensions and redownloading all my mail
[20:52] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: do what?
[20:52] <rgnr> hey ppl
[20:52] <seicherl_bob> hi there! i'm trying to set up a small simple access point. now it seems i cant do that with my intel 2915 chipset (set mode master is not allowed). has anybody any expierences with setting up an access point?
[20:52] <CoasterMaster> How can I flush the DNS cache in Ubuntu?
[20:52] <Alyx|BB> nevermind lol
[20:52] <rgnr> who uses ktorrent ?
[20:52] <Pollman> brb going to bootup in ubuntu
[20:52] <Sharpie> rgnr: #kubuntu
[20:52] <MikeH> ooh, XGL isn't present, is this a problem, or does that just mean it's using aiglx?
[20:52] <Sharpie> rgnr: probably more people there than here
[20:52] <B-rabbit> Pollman, good luck
[20:52] <SpookyET> rngr, speaking of BitTorrent, what's a decent client on par with uTorrent?
[20:53] <SpookyET> Deluge?
[20:53] <Sharpie> MikeH: you have an ATI gfx card, i presume?
[20:53] <atlef> SpookyET: yes
[20:53] <MikeH> Sharpie, yes.
[20:53] <Sharpie> SpookyET: i use Azureus
[20:53] <dwxreaper> what does //mean in a log file like /usr//lib/rancid
[20:53] <SpookyET> Sharpie, that would be a step backwards for me.
[20:53] <Sharpie> MikeH: umm, go to System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager
[20:54] <Sharpie> MikeH: is your card there?
[20:54] <Frederick> folks ubuntu 64 seems to freeze during install in my machine
[20:54] <SpookyET> Sharpie, azureus is a fat bastard
[20:54] <moumic_> hello
[20:54] <Frederick> it loads the frist screen and when I order it to install it sort of stops
[20:54] <Sharpie> Frederick: do you have a 64bit processor?
[20:54] <MikeH> "ATI accelerated graphics driver" Sharpie, but it's not enabled.
[20:54] <Frederick> Sharpie: I do
[20:54] <Sharpie> MikeH: enable it
[20:54] <MikeH> Sharpie, I want to enable it?
[20:54] <ompaul> SpookyET, a little less descriptive please ;-)
[20:54] <MikeH> :)
[20:55] <Frederick> I think it might be an issue with my monitor
[20:55] <Frederick> Im re-downloading the iso
[20:55] <Sharpie> Frederick: instead, run the cd check
[20:55] <SpookyET> ompaul: Azureus is an overweight frog:-)
[20:55] <Sharpie> Frederick: when you load the livecd you have a "check cd" or somethin option
[20:55] <Frederick> I tried but it turns my monitor off and doesnt run until the end
[20:55] <malifIwerearichm> I want to build a server farm that will run a Virtual Machine any advice?
[20:56] <MikeH> Sharpie, Then what? Restart X?
[20:56] <Sharpie> MikeH: it should ask for a restart
[20:56] <MikeH> Aah yeah
[20:56] <MikeH> Ok, I'll reboot and pop back :)
[20:56] <dick_> rbm, ok make some changes try it now and let me know
[20:57] <seicherl_bob> hi there! i'm trying to set up a small simple access point. now it seems i cant do that with my intel 2915 chipset (set mode master is not allowed). has anybody any expierences with setting up an access point?
[20:57] <Alyx|BB> ok x stoped working after installing th ati restricted drivers how do I remove them from console
[20:57] <moumic_> i have a hdd 120GB and is foul only with the ubuntu instalation is it possible? what have i done wrong?
[20:57] <B-rabbit> seicherl_bob, what kind of access point?
[20:57] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: uh, deleting xorg.conf might help
[20:58] <Alyx|BB> delete it all together?
[20:58] <jordan_> How can I download windows live messenger onto wine?
[20:58] <Alyx|BB> where is it located
[20:58] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: well, i wouldn't recommend it as a first step
[20:58] <B-rabbit> jordan_, use gaim
[20:58] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: do you remember the name of the drivers? like, the package name?
[20:58] <Frederick> so any ideas?
[20:58] <Alyx|BB> ok what's the first step
[20:58] <seicherl_bob> B-rabbit: i need to sniff my friends traffic for university stuff
[20:59] <jordan_> gaim is too basic. is there a risk with using msn?
[20:59] <Alyx|BB> nope
[20:59] <alex_joni> hello.. if I build a new LiveCD and want to add a custom GPG key to apt, what would be the steps?
[20:59] <iwizzard> jordan_: why use windows live messanger? pidgin is a verry godd IM
[20:59] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: do um.."apt-cache search ati"
[20:59] <lusepuster_> B-rabbit, it just doesn't have all features like viop/cam, and you can't ask everyone you know to switch protocols
[20:59] <taoist> seicherl_bob: wireshark is all you need to listen on a wire
[20:59] <Alyx|BB> one sec
[20:59] <seicherl_bob> taoist: yes, but i need the AP installed on the laptop
[21:00] <jordan_> iwizzard, it get's the job done but it's not like windows live. there are some things on windows live messenger that i would like to have that gaim doen't offer
[21:00] <Alyx|BB> ok that gave me a butt loade of stuff
[21:00] <B-rabbit> jordan_,  like wat?
[21:01] <taoist> seicherl_bob: I missed the first part of your problem. Are you trying to pull a MITM attack by posing as the AP?
[21:01] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: hold on a sec, trying something
[21:01] <seicherl_bob> taoist: something like that...
[21:01] <Frederick> does anyone know a solution for this ?
[21:01] <Alyx|BB> ok
[21:01] <Frederick> [#ubuntu]
[21:01] <seicherl_bob> taoist: it's for my studies
[21:01] <Pollman> I made it alive :O
[21:01] <darxyde> eiber funzt nicht -.-
[21:01] <Frederick> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-343385.html
[21:01] <taoist> seicherl_bob: Ettercap is a program that would solve a lot of your problems
[21:01] <jordan_> like the remote desktop-type thing it has, and also it's very perimative in the accessories that msn shares between users
[21:02] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: ok, go to /usr/share/ati ("cd /usr/share/ati")
[21:02] <patrickneville> hey i'm having trouble using x2vnc, anyone use this?
[21:02] <Pollman> what is the terminal command for finding my video card?
[21:02] <patrickneville> ive used it on windows but cannot seem to get it to work in ubuntu
[21:02] <seicherl_bob> taoist: right now, i dont need the sniffer, but the accesspoint. its part of the assignment. i need to set up an accesspoint on my laptop
[21:02] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: if it exists, run "sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh"
[21:03] <taoist> seicherl_bob: Oh, so you need arp and routing tables stored to your laptop from the local network?
[21:03] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: wait, actually, did you install it through the restricted drivers manager?
[21:03] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: cause if you did, you should be able to just do "aptitude purge fglrx"
[21:04] <MikeH> Sharpie, ok, I've done that, and custom has appeared. However, when I choose custom I get an error saying Composite Extension isn't available?
[21:04] <Pollman> Can someone help me install the nvidia graphics drivers?
[21:04] <seicherl_bob> taoist: i need to set up the wifi as access point... which wont work cause iwconfig keeps telling me, that that mode is not allowed
[21:04] <enneth> Is there an application in which I can load an mp3 file and edit it? I just need to cut some of it so I can use it as my ringtone on my phone.
[21:04] <Sharpie> MikeH: hm, check if the drivers are enabled
[21:04] <Sharpie> MikeH: in the restricted drivers manager
[21:04] <iMoRtAliS> I checked the faq about mounting usb device, I'm getting hard time mounting a ntfs hard drive
[21:04] <MikeH> yup Sharpie, enabled and in use.
[21:04] <taoist> seicherl_bob: you may need to patch the wifi drivers to allow passive mode. What kind of card is it?
[21:05] <seicherl_bob> taoist: intel ipw2915
[21:05] <B-rabbit> jordan_, i have tryed using win msn via wine but it doesn't work...u could make it work but u have to go through a lot of hassle...so i recommend using gaim
[21:05] <iMoRtAliS> its a usb one, anyone has a good doc on this subject
[21:05] <Alyx|BB> still won't load x
[21:05] <Sharpie> MikeH: hold on a sec
[21:05] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: are you getting an error?
[21:05] <sachi> any program for video cutting
[21:06] <seicherl_bob> taoist: i found ipw2200 AP on sourceforge, but it wont work. i cant install it and there is no documentation and nothing.... sucks...
[21:06] <rms>  /join #compiz-fusion
[21:07] <Sharpie> MikeH: run "compiz --replace" in a terminal and paste the output in www.pastebin.com
[21:07] <Alyx|BB> ok that didn't work either sharpie
[21:07] <taoist> seicherl_bob: hang on I'm at work one sec
[21:07] <seicherl_bob> taoist: sure.
[21:07] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: any errors?
[21:07] <Alyx|BB> no just a black screen
[21:07] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: try restarting x (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[21:07] <MikeH> Sharpie, no need for pastebin; No whitelisted driver found; aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[21:08] <Alyx|BB> I tried no go
[21:08] <Sharpie> MikeH: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Hardware/Blacklist
[21:08] <Pollman> Can someone please help me install the correct nvidia drivers?
[21:08] <Sharpie> Pollman: just select the card in the restricted drivers manager
[21:08] <xapon> Pollman u should use Envy.
[21:08] <Pollman> Its not there
[21:09] <pmcnabb> when creating an ssh tunnel, how do you bind to all addresses on the remote host instead of 127.0.0.1?
[21:09] <Sharpie> Pollman: which card do you have?
[21:09] <Pollman> My video card is a cheap onboard one
[21:09] <taoist> seicherl_bob: what errors does it give you when you try to run the program? Have you built the binaries already?
[21:09] <gijs> hi
[21:09] <snkoosj> is there anyway to tell gnome-networkmanager to controle only certain nic's ?
[21:09] <Sharpie> Pollman: so you don't need a driver
[21:09] <seicherl_bob> taoist: it crashed doing make install.... it couldnt copy the files and nothing...
[21:09] <xapon> Onboard nvidea?
[21:10] <Pollman> Sharpie nvidia 6100
[21:10] <xapon> Right
[21:10] <B-rabbit> general Q: how to i set "view as list" in all the directories in nautilus(ubuntu file browser)
[21:10] <Pollman> If I try to enable the restricted drivers and restart
[21:10] <Sharpie> Pollman: is it in the restrict. drivers manager?
[21:10] <Pollman> it goes into 600x800 and says it couldn't config and will run in low graphics mode
[21:10] <Alyx|BB> I'm just goint to start over
[21:11] <seicherl_bob> taoist: some other guy reportet the same bug on sourceforge
[21:11] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: wait um
[21:11] <Pollman> If I choose model and go to nvidia > geforce 6 series it chooses something else
[21:11] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: while it's black, press alt+ctrl+F8
[21:11] <xapon> Pollman, try to find "Envy" on google and download it.
[21:11] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: any errors mentioned there?
[21:11] <Pollman> I did
[21:11] <Alyx|BB> ok hang on
[21:11] <xapon> Envy can take care to install the last driver of ur nvidea
[21:11] <SpookyET> Do I need a firewall?
[21:11] <B-rabbit> if u want to
[21:11] <Pollman> I have it installed
[21:11] <Sharpie> SpookyET: you have one
[21:12] <SpookyET> sharpie, do I have a gui for it?
[21:12] <a1r3yu> System -> Administration -> Restricted Network Drivers (for installing nvidia drivers)
[21:12] <Sharpie> SpookyET: install um..Firestarter
[21:12] <seicherl_bob> taoist: this guy reportet quite the same problem: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1600249&forum_id=499616
[21:12] <Sharpie> SpookyET: it's a GUI for the ubuntu internal firewall
[21:12] <Alyx|BB> ctrl+alt+f8 doesn't do anything
[21:12] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: well, delete xorg.conf
[21:13] <Maryel> раф??
[21:13] <SpookyET> Do you need anything advanced, like HIPS for linux?
[21:13] <Sharpie> Alyx|BB: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:13] <raichlea> is there any easy way (via apt-get) to install IE on 7.10?
[21:13] <Pollman> When I download the envy "envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb" package and unpack it
[21:13] <p0inte> lol
[21:13] <ragnar> рудз здуфыу
[21:13] <Sharpie> raichlea: why in the name of the flying spaghetti monster would you want IE?
[21:13] <ragnar> pls help some1
[21:13] <makaraki> ho riachela firstly you need to install wine
[21:13] <Jordan_U> !ru | ragnar
[21:13] <ubotu> ragnar: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[21:14] <Pollman> I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module-assistant" beside status
[21:14] <raichlea> sharpie: you can't upload pics to myspace in Firefox for some reason... at least I can't.
[21:14] <ragnar> help
[21:14] <raichlea> sharpie: and I use it to test sites
[21:14] <snkoosj> is there anyway to prevent gnome-network-manager to control a certain network card ?
[21:14] <pablin> how to install xifi drivers in ubuntu 7.04 64 bits
[21:14] <Sharpie> raichlea: uh, well, you can use wine
[21:14] <Jordan_U> ragnar, What do you need help with?
[21:15] <raichlea> sharpie: I have wine installed I just don't know how to install IE
[21:15] <B-rabbit> raichlea, use IEs4Linux
[21:15] <B-rabbit> just google it
[21:15] <raichlea> let me try
[21:15] <Sharpie> raichlea: download the IE installation and then run "winelauncher <path here>"
[21:15] <ragnar> i got no upload speeds on torrent clients
[21:15] <atlef> raichlea: have a look at wine-doors
[21:15] <Jordan_U> snkoosj, Yes, turn off "roaming mode" in System -> Administration -> Networking
[21:15] <Pollman> When I download the envy "envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb" package and unpack it I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module-assistant" beside status
[21:15] <javaJake> ragnar, you have NAT issues. Google it and I guarantee answers
[21:15] <Jordan_U> ragnar, Have you setup port forewarding?
[21:15] <ragnar> yep
[21:15] <javaJake> ragnar, port-forward.com
[21:16] <javaJake> ragnar, what client are you using?
[21:16] <B-rabbit> Sharpie, i have tryed downloading the normal IE from microsoft but it doesn't work
[21:16] <ragnar> ktorrent
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Is there a reason you are using envy instead of restricted manager?
[21:16] <Frederick> folks does ubuntu has some known issue to instal in lcd monitos?
[21:16] <raichlea> I wasn't able to download it'
[21:16] <B-rabbit> you have to use IE for linux
[21:16] <Cyrus25801> how do i setup a bluetooth dongle on linux
[21:16] <raichlea> I had it under feisty but I did a clean install
[21:16] <Pollman> Jordan_U, the restricted driver manager doesn't work for me
[21:16] <patrickneville> what is a good remote desktop connection program to use?
[21:16] <hottis> patrickneville: rdesktop ?
[21:16] <raichlea> I remember installing cabextrace and wine before but now I don't know what package to install
[21:17] <javaJake> ragnar, ok, wherever you setup your NAT port, you should be able to test it
[21:17] <Sharpie> patrickneville: vlcviewer
[21:17] <atlef> raichlea: have a look at wine-doors
[21:17] <makaraki> hi people I have a dumb question ... sorry I am not a troll but I don't have a clear idea at all, let me explain, is possible to share internet connection if I have 2 cards, one ethernet and also one wireless, I want to mean, recive connection from the ethernet and on the other hand sharing it via wireless
[21:17] <Sharpie> patrickneville: vncviewer*
[21:17] <javaJake> ragnar, if the test fails, your router is NOT properly configured
[21:17] <Jordan_U> patrickneville, VNC ( installed by default in Ubuntu ) or ssh / ssh -X
[21:17] <Sharpie> patrickneville: and it's included in ubuntu
[21:17] <phanto1> Latest ATI Linux Driver Brings Support for Ubuntu 7.10? How is it and is there a tut to install?
[21:17] <patrickneville> hottis: it wont let me use a password
[21:17] <javaJake> patrickneville, yes it will
[21:18] <Pollman> When I download the envy "envy_0.9.9-0ubuntu1_all.deb" package and unpack it I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: module-assistant" beside status
[21:18] <patrickneville> and has anyone used x2vnc?
[21:18] <javaJake> patrickneville, you aren't configuring it correctly then. :)
[21:18] <Pollman> Help anyone?
[21:18] <ragnar> how do i test it
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Do you have an internet connection?
[21:18] <hottis> patrickneville: man says -p <password>
[21:18] <patrickneville> javajake: i put the password in, and then when i type it from mylaptop to conect, it says its incorrect :\
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Pollman, On that machine of course
[21:18] <Pollman> Jordan_U, Yes I am using that machine right now
[21:19] <makaraki> hi people I have a dumb question ... sorry I am not a troll but I don't have a clear idea at all, let me explain, is possible to share internet connection if I have 2 cards, one ethernet and also one wireless, I want to mean, recive connection from the ethernet and on the other hand sharing it via wireless
[21:19] <javaJake> ragnar, mm, ktorrent can't, nvm
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Do you have the default repositories enabled?
[21:19] <ragnar> well i tested the tcp port
[21:19] <ragnar> 'tsopened
[21:19] <flamingos> ´ó¼ÒºÃ°¡
[21:19] <B-rabbit> patrickneville, you have to invite yourself to use remote desktop
[21:19] <Frederick> is ubuntu website down?
[21:19] <ragnar> do i have to set udp /
[21:19] <flamingos> yes
[21:19] <ragnar> ?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> makaraki, It is possible but not easy ( unless firestarter can share to wireless interfaces, I don't know if it can )
[21:20] <patrickneville> eh yeah, but when im away i want to be able to connect, without having to do that
[21:20] <Pollman> Jordan_U, the default repositories are...? I think I have them installed
[21:20] <javaJake> ragnar, You might
[21:20] <jordan> Is there an O.S. alternative to Finale (music composition / arrangement)?
[21:20] <javaJake> ragnar, also, it is actually http://portforward.com/ my apologies
[21:20] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Check System -> Administration -> Software Sources or pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:20] <javaJake> ragnar, also, do you have Firestarter installed?
[21:21] <iwizzard> has anyone had any luck getting gpodder to subscribe to reason.tv rss feed? the link is: http://reason.tv/video/index.xml but gpodder says it cant add it. It worked fine with Itunes
[21:21] <SpookyET> Is there a PeerGuardian equivalent? It doesn't have to be a GUI. It can be a cron job, but it has to be efficient. Found a perl script, but not impressed with it.
[21:21] <makaraki> Hi Jordan_U thanks for your request I will have a look but don't know what to type in the google ... ( Newby....)
[21:21] <gentianhush> hey, does anyone use an HP printer?
[21:21] <rafal> gentianhush: linuxprinting.org
[21:21] <Frederick> where can I get the md5sum of the 64 release?
[21:21] <atlef> SpookyET: if you use deluge there is a plugin
[21:21] <Pollman> Jordan_U what do I look for in the software sources?
[21:21] <phanto1> Latest ATI Linux Driver Brings Support for Ubuntu 7.10? How is it and is there a tut to install?
[21:22] <ragnar> no i don't think so
[21:22] <javaJake> makaraki, if it isn't easy, and you are new to Linux, you might as well move on for now. The easiest idea is to become a repeater, but I don't think that allows you to use the network, but merely extend its range
[21:22] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Make sure that at the very least "main" is enabled
[21:22] <ragnar> only if it's set by default
[21:22] <javaJake> makaraki, usually things that aren't easy require an hour or more to configure and set up
[21:22] <javaJake> ragnar, ok
[21:22] <gentianhush> rafal: i already have hplip etc, but the problem is that the HP Device Manager (and Printing in Administration) don't read my password
[21:22] <continentaltest> Anyone have experience with DIA - diagram editor and printing problems?  Was working fine when it suddenyl stopped printing.  No other applications have any problems printing.  Removed and replaced dia without effect.  Also, wanted to know if there is a way to overcome the seeming limitation on printing only to the default 'lpr' printer.  I have other printers available through CUPS, but cannot DIA to print to them.  Is there
[21:22] <javaJake> ragnar, run through http://portforward.com/
[21:22] <javaJake> ragnar, that will get your router set up right
[21:22] <javaJake> ragnar, start here http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[21:23] <Jordan_U> jordan, Possibly ardour, also check out Ubuntu Studio
[21:23] <makaraki> ok ok thanks javaJake and Jordan_U i thing maybe in the future I will try again now is better to still learning
[21:23] <rafal> gentianhush: sorry I dont know
[21:23] <Pollman> Jordan_U, where does it say main, under third party software?
[21:23] <Pollman> Jordan_U, nevermind I have main enabled
[21:23] <ragnar> there's no ktorrent (
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Can you install other packages from apt / synaptic?
[21:24] <Pollman> Jordan_U which ones?
[21:24] <javaJake> ragnar, Azureus is just as good. :)
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Anything, is there any package that you can install with apt/ synaptic?
[21:25] <Pollman> Jordan_U under Synapic Package Man. I can install them
[21:26] <hockeyfan5000> Has anyone had the issue where they change their resolution settings and then Compiz stops working?
[21:26] <jimjam> I have some empty user groups. How can I delete them?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Can you try installing module-assistant with synaptic / apt ( "sudo apt-get install module-assistant" ) ?
[21:27] <rafal> is there a channel for amd64?
[21:27] <javaJake> ragnar, just make sure you configure ktorrent for whatever port you set up
[21:27] <spiffman> hey is it possible to move one file from my ubuntu partition to my windows partition, without an external storage device?
[21:27] <rafal> how to install skype on amd64
[21:27] <sethk> spiffman, it's simple if it's a VFAT partition, more involved if it is NTFS
[21:27] <spiffman> sethk it's ntfs
[21:28] <tomd123> rafal: x86 programs work on the x64 bit os
[21:28] <Pollman> Jordan_U I get:E: Couldn't find package module-assistant
[21:28] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | spiffman
[21:28] <ubotu> spiffman: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:28] <tomd123> rafal: go to skype.com and dl it there and install
[21:28] <KlrSpz> how in the world do you find a changelog for a pkg?
[21:28] <KlrSpz> ie, compiz.. it just updated, but i wanna knkow what updated
[21:28] <sethk> spiffman, unless using a USB memory stick is a serious problem, that's what I would do
[21:28] <rafal> tomd123: download regular 32bit version? it doesnt need a chroot or whatever?
[21:28] <tomd123> rafal: no
[21:29] <sethk> spiffman, there is support for ntfs write.  I've not tested it myself and it's quite new
[21:29] <continentaltest> spiffman -- i use ntfs-3g daily - very easy - read up on it
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Ahh, it seems it's actually in universe, make sure that is enabled also
[21:29] <B-rabbit> Q: do you need port forwarding if u r directly connected to the internet?
[21:29] <tomd123> rafal: it will probably prompt you for your root passwd though
[21:29] <Jordan_U> B-rabbit, No
[21:29] <sn00zer> Hello, is anyone familiar with editing the boot line in grub to boot as root by adding single to the kernel line? how do i password protect this so other people can't reset my passwords?
[21:29] <MikeH> hrm
[21:29] <spiffman> i don't ahve a usb drive, but i'll try ntfs-3g, thanks all!
[21:29] <Pollman> Jordan_U ok its reloading stuff now
[21:30] <tomd123> rafal: this is what you need http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu
[21:30] <continentaltest> spiffman - i also use virtualbox by innotek and it enables a share directory for easy EXT3 - NTFS file movement
[21:30] <KlrSpz> sn00zer: get rid of the passwd binary?
[21:30] <sethk> sn00zer, there is an overall grub password, but no facility for passwords for a specific kernel entry
[21:30] <Jordan_U> sn00zer, You can set either a BIOS password or a GRUB password, but if they have physical access to the machine there is nothing you can really do to stop them completely
[21:30] <marcioapf> can anybody help me installing gtk?
[21:30] <CegoMorph> hi
[21:31] <Jordan_U> marcioapf, gtk is installed by default
[21:31] <CegoMorph> i need help guys!
[21:31] <sethk> sn00zer, Jordan_U is correct, even the grub password is easy to hack for anyone who knows what they are doing
[21:31] <sethk> sn00zer, it will foil the casual hacker
[21:31] <B-rabbit> Jordan_U, for example, i have got a ssh server running and my pc is behind a router do i need to configure my router to be able to connect to my computer from school
[21:31] <CegoMorph> i've installed ubuntu on my PPC machine
[21:31] <matttis> hi
[21:31] <ragnar> do i have to restart connection ?
[21:31] <marcioapf> jordan_u: But i can't include it's libraries on my programs... =/
[21:31] <sn00zer> ok, thanks guys
[21:31] <CegoMorph> but it looks like its quite impossible to find useful and tweaking tools for ubuntu ppc
[21:32] <matttis> is it possible to recover data from my formatted partition where ubuntu was installed (ext 3 i think, might also be ReiserFS)
[21:32] <Jordan_U> marcioapf, Ahh, you need the header files if you are trying to compile against gtk
[21:32] <CegoMorph> so can anybodly please tell me where i can find tools for ubuntu?
[21:32] <sethk> B-rabbit, it depends on how the router is configured.  Usually yes.
[21:32] <marcioapf> Jordan_U: hmm... how do i do that?
[21:32] <Flare183> which type of parition is better of all the paritition types?
[21:32] <tomd123> cegomorph: go to System -> Administor -> synaptic package manager
[21:33] <doug_> does anyone know how, using tightvncserver, i can view whats actually on my desktop?
[21:33] <Galdar\Linux> any good antivirus programs for ubuntu?
[21:33] <Flare183> i have ext3 now but are the other ones better?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> marcioapf, install libgtk2.0-dev
[21:33] <CegoMorph> ok, i just have to boot im Ubuntu
[21:33] <Jordan_U> !virus | Galdar\Linux
[21:33] <CegoMorph> brb
[21:33] <ubotu> Galdar\Linux: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[21:33] <Flare183> galldar\LInux:> avg
[21:33] <jimcooncat_> what's a good xml editor, preferably gtk?
[21:33] <Galdar\Linux> well i know, but still just in case :)
[21:33] <Pollman> Jordan_U, Yes! Its working now thanks alot, we'll see if the drivers work thoug
[21:33] <spiffman> continentaltest, i'll research that too, though ntfs-3g seems to work really well
[21:33] <Alyxander> sharpie i got it back i had the do a dpkg reconfigure
[21:33] <marcioapf> Jordan-U: it's already the newest version
[21:34] <Galdar\Linux> Some windows paraniod is still in me :P
[21:34] <Jordan_U> Pollman, Know that you will have to re-install the drivers whenever there is an Xorg or Kernel update
[21:34] <B-rabbit> sethk, thnx
[21:34] <marcioapf> "libgtk2.0-dev is already the newest version."  "libgtk2.0-dev set to manual installed."
[21:34] <doug_> if someone is knowlegeable about VNC join channel #vnc
[21:34] <Pollman> Jordan_U, its no big deal, it doesn't take very long
[21:34] <Jordan_U> marcioapf, What exactly are you trying to include?
[21:34] <marcioapf> Jordan-U: i'm trying to compile the program showed on this tutorial: http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/c39.html
[21:35] <Pollman> be right back rebooting
[21:35] <doug_> who can help me set up a vnc server?
[21:35] <sethk> marcioapf, install it anyway, with a force flag.
[21:35] <sethk> marcioapf, it says it was marked manually installed, which means it may in fact be installed but it may not
[21:36] <Cyrus25801> how do i setup a bluetooth dongle on linux
[21:36] <MikeH> Can someone recommend an msn client?
[21:36] <marcioapf> sethk: ok i will try that
[21:36] <marcioapf> sethk: how do i use a force flag?
[21:37] <doug_> how do i get "full" vnc with tightvnc, when i use :1, i only get gray background and terminal
[21:37] <Jordan_U> sethk, No, that is not what "set to manually installed" means
[21:38] <jimjam> Can I make a password shorter than 6 characters?
[21:38] <Cegonux> re
[21:38] <tomd123> ya
[21:38] <tomd123> jimjam: yes
[21:38] <Jordan_U> sethk, It means that it no longer considers it "orphaned" if the original package that required it to be installed as a dependency is removed
[21:38] <Cegonux> ok i startet the package manager
[21:38] <Cegonux> i just saw that I've installed the 3ddesktop
[21:38] <xipietotec> does anyone know how to get the toshiba touch scrollwheel working
[21:38] <Jordan_U> sethk, So it will never be removed by "apt-get autoremove" for example
[21:38] <xipietotec> ?
[21:38] <Cegonux> but how can i run the 3ddesktop?
[21:39] <jimjam> tomd123: How would I do that?
[21:39] <tomd123> Cegonux: just browse through the package manager, don't go on an install rampage though
[21:39] <Jordan_U> !synaptics | xipietotec
[21:39] <ubotu> xipietotec: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[21:39] <tomd123> jimjam: are you logged in?
[21:39] <|adam|> i cant get no sound on ubuntu
[21:39] <Cegonux> but how can i start the 3ddesktop?
[21:39] <marcioapf> Jordan_U and Sethk: uuuhhhh i was typing something wrong... =/
[21:39] <Cegonux> i'm new to linux
[21:39] <tomd123> jimjam: to the account you want to change the password?
[21:40] <|adam|> i can in the sound prefs but none through the browser
[21:40] <jimjam> tomd123: Oh, no, no I'm not
[21:40] <tomd123> jimjam: login to the account then
[21:40] <Ubmin> |adam|: how many soundcards do you have installed?
[21:40] <jimjam> tomd123: Alright, thanks
[21:40] <marcioapf> Jordan_U: its working sorry sorryy
[21:40] <|adam|> just 1 but i have a usb headset
[21:41] <marcioapf> Jordan_U: I'm really ashamed of this...
[21:41] <Ubmin> is the headset plugged in?
[21:41] <MikeH> Hi guys, anyone here use XGL?
[21:41] <|adam|> yes
[21:41] <Ubmin> unplug it, reboot.
[21:41] <tomd123> jimjam: open up a terminal and type passwd
[21:41] <Jordan_U> marcioapf, It happens to the best of us :)
[21:41] <doug_> anyone with experience using tightVNC, please go to #vnc
[21:41] <|adam|> i have a sb audigy card and a logitech usb headset
[21:41] <Jordan_U> !anyone | MikeH
[21:41] <ubotu> MikeH: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:41] <Ubmin> |adam|: unplug the headset, and reboot without it plugged in at all.
[21:41] <hockeyfan5000> anyone had compiz just stop working?
[21:41] <MikeH> Ok,
[21:41] <marcioapf> Jordan_U: =) Thanks very much for the help :)
[21:42] <xipietotec> Jordan_U, This will make the little hardware device work? It's not part of the actual touch portion, its like a little bar in between the two mouse buttons
[21:42] <MikeH> so I want to get XGL running, as it seems AIGLX won't allow me to run compiz with my card
[21:42] <doug_> anyone with experience using tightVNC, please go to #vnc
[21:42] <|adam|> Ubmin: whay will that achieve?
[21:42] <MikeH> How do I go about getting XGL running, do I need to remove anything, is it just a case of apt-get'ing it
[21:43] <xipietotec> http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/7098.jpg <----see the picture here Jordan_U
[21:43] <Ubmin> |adam|: the system won't see the headset as the first sound device.  by default, a web browser is going to use the first device, so for now, what you need to do is make sure you boot the system without the headset (you can plug it in after it's all booted up)
[21:43] <Ubmin> |adam|: but there should be a way to make it so that the audigy gets loaded before the usb
[21:43] <tomd123> MikeH: go to the synaptic package manager and install "XGL"k
[21:43] <SpookyET> Can menus be altered in GTK? They are pretty ugly
[21:43] <|adam|> ahhhh ok  ill try that
[21:44] <tomd123> MikeH: then logout and login, it should then work
[21:44] <ethana2> Hey-- could any of you who own a ps3 meet me on #psubuntu?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> xipietotec, Does anything show up in xev when you press up or down with it?
[21:44] <MikeH> tomd123, where can I find this package manager?
[21:44] <|adam|> i also have a logitech g15 keyboard with an lcd could i get that working on ubuntu?
[21:44] <Ubmin> |adam|: i had the exact same problem last week, that's how i solved it (for now) but i haven't done the whole sound module displacement thing yet
[21:44] <ethana2> We need a Linux PPC nVidia driver
[21:44] <tomd123> MikeH: go to System -> administration -
[21:44] <tomd123> -> synaptic package manager
[21:44] <emma> My sound isn't working. Any ideas?
[21:44] <MikeH> tomd123, I did check first, didn't see it, yeah, found it on second pass :)
[21:44] <mdmkolbe|ubuntu> I need to install an old version of open office (1.1.4), is there a way to pull that from the unbutu repositories?
[21:45] <Ubmin> |adam|: probably, not sure how to do that
[21:45] <narothepharoh> when using pastebin what do i put for syntax?
[21:45] <xipietotec> Jordan_U, no. What about reading kernel input? I forgot how.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> ethana2, Hopefully we will eventually with
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Nouveau
[21:45] <|adam|> well i have the tut ubmin but dont know how to even install on ubuntu
[21:45] <tomd123> mdmkolbe|ubuntu: I don't think they keep old versions, you just have to google for it or something
[21:45] <narothepharoh> void: are you still there?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> narothepharoh, Plain text will always work
[21:46] <Ubmin> |adam|: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267118
[21:46] <xipietotec> I know it involves tailf and dmesg somehow
[21:46] <Galdar\Linux> any there knows a good tutorial og howto set up compiz on Ubuntu 7.10?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> xipietotec, I don't know if a button press would show up in dmesg, I wouldn't expect it to
[21:46] <narothepharoh> it keeps saying i am spamming the pastebin?
[21:46] <xipietotec> Jordan_U, its not a button exactly, more like a sensor
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Galdar\Linux, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[21:47] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | Galdar\Linux
[21:47] <ubotu> Galdar\Linux: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[21:47] <Ubmin> Galdar\Linux: click on system->preferences->advanced desktop
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Ubmin, There is no such menu item...
[21:47] <|adam|> Ubmin: thats the one . i just font understand the procedure,beings as tohugh i dont even know how to install a progam on ubuntu
[21:47] <xipietotec> Its a touch-sensor basically, that acts as a scroll wheel
[21:47] <ethana2> Well, Noveau is one way
[21:47] <Ubmin> Jordan_U: maybe it's in administration? i don't have a gnome desktop in front of me right now
[21:47] <ethana2> but there's enough demand to warrant a proprietary driver too
[21:48] <ethana2> for all the PS3 and mac users
[21:48] <hockeyfan5000> Jordan_U: Thanks you just solved my mystery
[21:48] <hockeyfan5000> It was a ID10T error..hehe
[21:48] <hockeyfan5000> Jordan Are you looking under System >Appearance?
[21:48] <Jordan_U> hockeyfan5000, PEBCAK's are the hardest errors to troubleshoot ;)
[21:48] <Cegonux> can anybody tell if there are GUI tweaking tools for Ubuntu PPC?
[21:49] <Pollman> Jordan_U it didn't work
[21:49] <hockeyfan5000> System > preferences > appearance> then to to Visual Effects and select Custom
[21:49] <Mr_Eeh> hi
[21:49] <Ubmin> |adam|: sudo apt-get install <packagename>  <-- installs a package
[21:49] <ethana2> oohhhh lovin this pidgin plugin... no more so and so left so and so joined
[21:49] <zloog> hi. Is it possible to have 2 diffent users running X on the same computer? Diffrent monitors/keyboards of course...
[21:49] <Ubmin> |adam|: apt-cache search <something>  <-- search for packages
[21:49] <ethana2> really nice
[21:49] <ethana2> yes
[21:49] <Mr_Eeh> question: i installed xubuntu and i get no os error.. as i see it it has no grub
[21:50] <Ubmin> zloog: yes.
[21:50] <ethana2> I've seen that done with 6 people
[21:50] <joey722> i'm triying to install 'install.sh' by typing 'sh install.sh' when i got this message:
[21:50] <tebo> hello
[21:50] <joey722> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by serverXlib: No protocol specifiedSetup requires an X display to run.  There is a display variable set, howeveryou have no permissions to access the X server (:0) it points to.Try running xhost +localhost before su'ing to root.The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.6
[21:50] <Pollman> I need help getting desktop effects working :(
[21:50] <tebo> can i setting monitor's contrast and bridgtness by software???
[21:50] <zloog> neat! Do you know what keywords I should be googleing to find instructions on how to do that?
[21:50] <Ubmin> joey722: xhost +, then sudo <command>
[21:50] <MikeH> Right, just installed XGL, but now my keyboard has changed back to US (As opposed to UK) layout.
[21:50] <MikeH> How do I change it back?
[21:50] <Mr_Eeh> how do i install grub? i tried it but it said no permission :X
[21:50] <Cegonux> is it possible that my 1GHz G4 with Radeon9200 is too slow for the visual effects in ubuntu?
[21:51] <tmdonahu> ????Animated Gifs + Desktop Background = how to?????
[21:51] <hockeyfan5000> fast user switching zloog??? lol
[21:51] <ethana2> I have a Radeon 9200
[21:51] <ethana2> no.
[21:51] <doug_> Mr_Eeh: try using sudo
[21:51] <FluxD> tmdonahu: I dont think possible
[21:51] <ethana2> I use compiz
[21:51] <Pollman> Can someone help me get desktop effects working?
[21:51] <ethana2> I also use a screensaver
[21:51] <ethana2> as my desktop background
[21:51] <Cegonux> but Ubuntu is really unusable when i activate the visual effects
[21:51] <tmdonahu> FluxD|-> thanks :)
[21:51] <zloog> hockeyfan5000: No, I want to have 2 users run 2 seprate X sessions on 2 diffrent monitors with 2 diffrent mice and keyboards at the same time
[21:51] <ethana2> it lags yes
[21:52] <ethana2> ...but it runs..
[21:52] <radioaktivstorm> hello, i am having issues with dependencies. I am trying to install midori web browser, and it is saying that the version of libpango is not the correct version.... how can i obtain the freshest version of libpango?
[21:52] <Mr_Eeh> doug_: sudo grub-install ??what??
[21:52] <Jordan_U> tmdonahu, You can use mplayer to play videos as the desktop background, I think that should work with GIFs as well
[21:52] <Cegonux> i'll try compiz
[21:52] <ethana2> xwinwrap
[21:52] <Jordan_U> tmdonahu, Or do you just want a static background from an image in gif format?
[21:52] <ethana2> KDE4 will have no problem doing that
[21:52] <ethana2> wait one month
[21:52] <ethana2> k?
[21:53] <doug_> Mr_Eeh: you said that you "don't have permissions"... sudo will give you root access, did you try that?
[21:53] <tmdonahu> Jordan_U|-> Yes
[21:53] <tmdonahu> I want an animated background from an animated gif, sorry
[21:53] <sachi> how to  add a "skydome" image
[21:53] <doug_> zloog: do you know how to set up basic vnc servers?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> tmdonahu, Which ? :)
[21:53] <ethana2> Pollman: do you see the pm's I sent you?
[21:53] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libpango1.0-0
[21:54] <ethana2> Pollman: what's your IRC client?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> tmdonahu, I didn't think Gnome had any problems using gifs as background images
[21:54] <tmdonahu> sorry didn't read you right the first time
[21:54] <radioaktivstorm> thank you very much FluxD
[21:54] <tmdonahu> it doesn't have a problem using one frame
[21:54] <Pollman> ethana2 I got your pms, I just wasn't paying attention
[21:54] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: its for gutsy btw
[21:54] <Mr_Eeh> doug_: yepp i already tried sudo.. dont know what params grub-install needs
[21:54] <gordboy> scotlug : the scottish legalize underage group (paedophiles). their next meeting, at the Counting House in Glasgow, will be picketed by several thousand activists. paedophiles will not be tolerated on freenode. but they especially will not be tolerated in Glasgow. i'm hoping the main players will be hanged in public
[21:54] <emma> My sound stopped working. It was working just fine. Any ideas?
[21:54] <narothepharoh> void: are you still here?
[21:54] <sachi> how to  add a "skydome" image
[21:55] <tmdonahu> I am using the package xchat, but it complains about libnotify not being installed.  I have libnotify1 but don't want to use xchat-gnome as it's not the real xchat.  Thoughts?
[21:55] <RxDx> please, whats the diff between LinuxMint and Ubuntu?
[21:55] <ethana2> artwork
[21:55] <tmdonahu> more packages
[21:55] <Galdar\Linux> hmm got i now, but doesn't work
[21:55] <FluxD> tmdonahu: libnotify need the binary too
[21:55] <ethana2> more packages?
[21:55] <tmdonahu> mp3 support out of box
[21:55] <Galdar\Linux> its not doing any thing
[21:55] <ethana2> medibuntu, perhaps?
[21:55] <radioaktivstorm> FluxD it looks like midori wants 1.18.3 or newer
[21:55] <ethana2> whoa!
[21:55] <tmdonahu> not really much else
[21:55] <dr_evil> one inode is needed for each file, is that correct?
[21:56] <RxDx> ahh.. not much diff :)
[21:56] <RxDx> ill keep ubuntu
[21:56] <ethana2> Are there any psubuntu users here?
[21:56] <FluxD> tmdonahu: install this too libnotify-bin
[21:56] <tmdonahu> kk
[21:56] <dryyoutear> I'm trying to install an Snes Emulator GUI on my Ubuntu machine but when I type 'make' in the terminal I get an error saying that './depcomp could not be found'.  Anyone have any ideas as to what's going on?
[21:56] <tmdonahu> thanks
[21:56] <narothepharoh> how do i configure my graphics?
[21:56] <rafal> help, I don't have any Monitors options in kcontrol!
[21:56] <emma> Im currently using feisty what is the consensus on whether it is a good idea to upgrade?
[21:56] <|adam|> cedega wont let me eject my drives to put in another cd to continue installation any ideas any one?
[21:56] <tmdonahu> thanks FluxD
[21:56] <ethana2> it'll brake the radeon driver's DVI
[21:56] <FluxD> tmdonahu: np
[21:56] <ethana2> hold off on that if that's your card
[21:57] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: looking for a deb
[21:57] <Pollman> ethana2 I sent you a pm
[21:57] <ethana2> Pollman: weird, I didn't see it..
[21:57] <viajador> Hi there! Can someone help me with this issue: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3089300.0 ?
[21:57] <ethana2> like, on IRC?
[21:57] <emma> Is it a good idea to upgrade to gutsy or should a person wait?
[21:58] <rafal> heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[21:58] <ethana2> wait
[21:58] <tomd123> emma: if its not too much work for you(backup) then its generally a good idea to upgrade
[21:58] <ethana2> if you have an ATi card
[21:58] <rafal> anyone have 7.10 on amd64 and kde? I need to check something!
[21:58] <ethana2> otherwise, go for it
[21:58] <ethana2> about 175 people do, rafal
[21:58] <ethana2> but not me..
[21:58] <Tuxthepenguin> !patents
[21:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patents - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:58] <emma> How can I tell if I have an ATi card?
[21:59] <john> when using s2ram i think there is a lack of image to resume from so my computer is doing a regular boot, where do i define where the resume image should go?
[21:59] <ethana2> glxinfo | grep vendor
[21:59] <sachi> anyone can help me to set the skydome image
[21:59] <Tuxthepenguin> emma: post your lspci
[21:59] <emma> how do I post the lspci?
[21:59] <rafal> who have 7.10 on amd64 and kde? I need to check something
[22:00] <Tuxthepenguin> copy and paste
[22:00] <FluxD> emma: terminal type in lspci then pastebin.ca
[22:00] <emma> Okay
[22:00] <tomd123> sachi: its one of those options under system->preferences->appearance
[22:00] <sachi> ok
[22:00] <viajador> emma: I had a good experience. My ATI card works ok, but I don't use restricted drivers.
[22:00] <Pollman> Can someone help me get the Desktop effects/ nvidia drivers working?
[22:00] <tebo> kde has contrast and bridgness settings, gnome not
[22:00] <Tuxthepenguin> gnome is simple
[22:00] <hockeyfan5000> Pollman: What is your issue
[22:01] <Tuxthepenguin> its annoying sometimes
[22:01] <emma> 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge (rev 10)
[22:01] <emma> It looks like I do have an ATi :|
[22:01] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: I think synaptic has that version
[22:01] <Pollman> hockeyfan5000: I've used envy to install the drivers, then I enabled the restricted drivers, and it asks me to restart
[22:01] <Tuxthepenguin> ati sucks
[22:01] <crdlb> emma: "lspci | grep VGA"
[22:01] <radioaktivstorm> FluxD:hmm... ok  ill try looking for it
[22:02] <emma> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[22:02] <sachi> and where to set that skydome image
[22:02] <Pollman> hockeyfan5000, so I do ctrl+alt+backspace and it goes says it couldn't configure and goes into low graphics mode, it also does that if I restart normally
[22:02] <SpookyET> What's the difference between the Ubuntu Extetensions and the ones found on addons.mozilla.org?
[22:02] <crdlb> sachi: #compiz-fusion
[22:03] <emma> crdlb  -- did you see that? What does that tell you?
[22:03] <radioaktivstorm> FluxD: the only hits i get are 1.18.2... let me see if something is wrong with my sources
[22:03] <hockeyfan5000> Pollman:  what were you trying to do before you had the issue?
[22:03] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: It says 1.18.3 in my synaptic but I see 1,18.2 in repos
[22:04] <Pollman> hockeyfan5000: I was trying to enable desktop effects
[22:04] <Cegonux> hmm
[22:04] <askand> Anyone here know how to recover the backup made by gconf-cleaner? :(
[22:04] <Cegonux> can anybody tell me where i can find my installed programms?
[22:04] <slize> hey, i am new to ati and compiz, but do you guys think its possible to run on a x1400 radeon card without advanced tweeking of my system?
[22:04] <rafal> who have 7.10 on amd64 and kde? I need to check something
[22:05] <tomd123> cegonux: System->administration->synaptic package manager
[22:05] <Cegonux> tomd123: yeah, but i want to run the installed program
[22:05] <Cegonux> cant find it anywhere
[22:06] <emma> My sound doesn't work all of a sudden. How can I fix that?
[22:06] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: u have gutsy updates turned on?
[22:06] <tomd123> cegonux: type it in the terminal
[22:06] <Dogfishguzzler> What's it mean when at least once maybe twice a day my internet connection gets jacked up. I'll just be googling around or what not then I click a link and it just says 'looking for xyz.com' until eventually it just says cannot find server. From that point I have to reboot my computer to get internet back.
[22:06] <emma> Is there a way that I can kill all applications except for xchat?
[22:06] <emma> I think it's some kind of application or ram problem.
[22:06] <slize> is there some kind of working tutorial to get compiz to work? i've tried it with nvidia and it was working out of the box, but my notebook has ati and it seems not working!! :(
[22:06] <hockeyfan5000> what does is show as your driver Pollman, DId you go to Appearance and set it to Custom??
[22:07] <Cegonux> how do i opne a terminal?
[22:07] <tomd123> slize: generally you just have to install xgl and it work
[22:07] <FluxD> emma: are u using two music players or a video player and xmms ?
[22:07] <radioaktivstorm> FluxD: heh. wow. ok. this would help alot.... and maybe would explain why some of the other things were behavng a bit funny. my updates were in fact off. thank you for the insight! :)
[22:07] <tomd123> slize: don't forget to use the restricted managers for the ati card
[22:07] <FluxD> radioaktivstorm: np :)
[22:07] <emma> Flux -- I was actually. Totem and Rhythmbox at the same time.
[22:07] <slize> tomd123: i run gutsy and i thought its shipped with xgl
[22:07] <FluxD> emma: that is why :) u can only play 1 ata time
[22:07] <slize> tomd123: whats the name of the manager?
[22:07] <emma> And now Totem is broke. I try to start it and it just doesn't happen.
[22:08] <Pollman> hockeyfan5000: I'm not sure where it shows my driver or how to set my appearance to custom
[22:08] <tomd123> slize: it  actually runs a fast benchmark, if your laptop is not "capable" then it doesn't install xgl by default
[22:08] <emma> Is there a way to reset that?
[22:08] <tomd123> slize: this is what happened to me, but i just installed xgl and it works fine for me
[22:08] <FluxD> emma just reinstall totem or play using VLC
[22:08] <Pollman> hockeyfan5000, be right back its giving me an error when I try to start appearance
[22:08] <emma> Oh no!
[22:08] <emma> How could it be that bad?!
[22:08] <FluxD> emma: well reinstall could fix usually all errors, its not a bad thing
[22:08] <zloog> hi, is there a way to setup ubuntu such that it boots to a console instead of going strait to X?
[22:08] <emma> I thought maybe at worst I would have to turn off my computer and turn it back on again.
[22:09] <revilodraw> my sound has just gone really quiet... im pretty sure its cos i turned the sound down in a movie playing program, but dont know which one.... and turning it up in the ones i have hasnt helped
[22:09] <slize> tomd123: how to find out if its installed, cause compiz is marked as installed in synaptics
[22:09] <hockeyfan5000> Pollman go to System > Preferences > and then Appearance
[22:09] <ethana2> compizconfig
[22:09] <tomd123> slize: see if xgl is installed, search in the spm for xgl
[22:09] <revilodraw> emma; an optimist...
[22:09] <FluxD> emma: try opening totem thru terminal
[22:09] <emma> revilodraw,  try going to the volume control located on your task bar, and then double click on it. There you see other volume controls. One of them is probably down too low.
[22:09] <emma> FluxD,  okay I'll try that.
[22:09] <revilodraw> emma; thanks but its full
[22:10] <dmakalsky> Hi, I am running gutsy and I want to install Evolution-2.21.1.  What are my options to do that?
[22:10] <o_mpaglamas> #wesnoth-dev
[22:10] <PriceChild> dmakalsky, why?
[22:10] <FluxD> dmakalsky: apt-get install evolution or synaptic ?
[22:10] <slize> tomd123: k, seems like its the xserver-xgl package which is missing
[22:10] <tomd123> slize, install it
[22:10] <slize> tomd123: thanks, i will try to get it work then :)
[22:10] <dmakalsky> FluxD, the current version is 2.12
[22:11] <FluxD> dmakalsky: oh
[22:11] <dmakalsky> PriceChild, I want google calendar read / write access
[22:11] <dmakalsky> so I can sync with my blackberry
[22:11] <tomd123> slize: oh ya, for you to be able to customize it through system-prefrences-appearence you have to also install some package called compiz manager or something like that
[22:11] <slize> tomd123: but its not needed to update any fglrx drivers? can i run the ones from apt?
[22:11] <FluxD> dmakalsky: compile from source
[22:11] <claudio_> me pitié el disco duro
[22:11] <FluxD> !fr | claudio_
[22:11] <ubotu> claudio_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:11] <dmakalsky> FluxD, is that the only option?
[22:11] <claudio_> me dice algo de archivos con vínculos cruzados en windows
[22:11] <slize> tomd123: i already have the manager :)
[22:12] <FluxD> !er | claudio_
[22:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about er - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:12] <FluxD> !es | claudio_
[22:12] <ubotu> claudio_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[22:12] <Tuxthepenguin> wont gutsy get the updated version EVOULUTION
[22:12] <emma> FluxD,  when I try to start totem (even from the terminal) the window comes up but it keeps on waiting.. as if it were going to load.. but it never does.. when I click to close the window it says, "Totem  Move Player" is not responding... "
[22:12] <tomd123> slize: then you have everything but xgl, just install, restart and your done
[22:12] <narothepharoh> while playing a movie in kaffeine it slows my computer down to where i cant do anything and the movie is slow?
[22:12] <revilodraw> when i open totem it closes straight away
[22:12] <slize> tomd123: k then, thanks alot. i have to restart! :)
[22:12] <FluxD> emma: look in terminal for any errors
[22:12] <amainland> is it possible to ssh over a modem, a modem that is software and using a speaker/microphone instead of a null modem cable?
[22:12] <revilodraw> narothepharoh; do u have a slow oc, or is kaffeine the only prg that does this?
[22:13] <FluxD> dmakalsky: unless u can find an old deb
[22:13] <dmakalsky> should I ask in +1 ?
[22:13] <emma> It shows no errors.
[22:13] <narothepharoh> revilodraw: it seems to only happen with kaffeine
[22:13] <emma> When I finally choose 'force quit' it says "killed" and that's it.
[22:14] <Flare183> !totem
[22:14] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[22:14] <marcioapf> !glade
[22:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:14] <Flare183> Those are the many other player try them if you want emma
[22:15] <jenda> I would like to swap my Fn key with my Ctrl key... any tips?
[22:15] <munk_> i cant get glx working...i have a geforce 6200 le
[22:15] <seanfitz> hiya... I'm having problem with an external HDD... gone read-only on me and I can't change it back... anyone have a minute to help?
[22:15] <emma> Totem seems like it's no good anyway
[22:15] <FluxD> emma: any reason u need to use only totem? If u cannot find a reason just reinstall or use any other player like vlc or mplayer
[22:15] <emma> Do you think that totem not working and me having no sound is connected?
[22:15] <SpookyET> Why doesn't Ubuntu have DOM Inspector installed for firefox
[22:15] <Flare183> seanfitz:> use sudo to change the permissions
[22:15] <corruptionoflulz> emma: totem works perfectly fine for most of my stuff, and vlc takes care of the rest.
[22:16] <emma> I never liked how totem would open songs to play them. Why doesn't it stick to being a video player.
[22:16] <kbrosnan> SpookyET: it is a optional component
[22:16] <corruptionoflulz> munk_: you MIGHT have a setting in your laptop bios...
[22:16] <FluxD> dmakalsky: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/e/evolution/
[22:16] <Flare183> seanfitz:>For you will have write access anyway
[22:16] <rorro> ok
[22:16] <emma> Maybe if I uninstall totem my sound will work again?
[22:16] <Flare183> fluxd:> he left
[22:16] <SpookyET> kbrosnan, it's not in synaptic, not addons at mozilla
[22:16] <Cegonux> those visual effects are slowing down my system
[22:16] <amainland> modem over a speaker, anyone?
[22:16] <corruptionoflulz> emma: that's just a simple setting that you can set.. just change so your mp3's and ogg's open with a different player... vlc and other video players can play audio too.
[22:16] <FluxD> Flare183: oh thx
[22:16] <munk_> corruptionflulz this is on a pc...
[22:17] <emma> Is this how you do it:  sudo apt-get remove totem ?
[22:17] <Cegonux> but i'm using a G4
[22:17] <Flare183> FluxD:> np
[22:17] <Cegonux> and a radeon9200
[22:17] <Flare183> emma:> you can't it's part of ubuntu
[22:17] <corruptionoflulz> munk_: since when do PC keyboards have a function key? =/.. or do you mean the windows key(super)?
[22:17] <emma> Oh no!
[22:17] <FluxD> emma: thats not a soundcad problem xmms and the other player just cannot be used at the same time
[22:17] <ethana2> you have to use the open source driver
[22:17] <|adam|> anyone running world of warcraft on ubuntu
[22:17] <Flare183> !info totem
[22:17] <ubotu> totem: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package). In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 208 kB, installed size 244 kB
[22:17] <ethana2> PPC is not supported by fglrx
[22:17] <linxeh> corruptionoflulz: they have 12 ;-)
[22:17] <FluxD> |adam|: works fine under wine
[22:17] <emma> playing them at the same time has made it so that I don't have any audio.
[22:17] <revilodraw> any way i can make my sound loud again? everything is on max... (volume control, speakers, program, etc)
[22:17] <linxeh> jenda: are you using a laptop ?
[22:18] <|adam|> flux you running it under wine?
[22:18] <emma> How do I get my audio back do you know?
[22:18] <tomd123> |adam|: i thought i pointed you to a link that showed you how to do it
[22:18] <Cegonux> ethana2: so thats the reason why it is so slow?
[22:18] <amainland> FluxD: is wow any better/faster ?
[22:18] <FluxD> emma: audio for?
[22:18] <munk_> corruptionoflulz, i didnt say anything about the fn key or the super key,.. only that my glx isnt working lol
[22:18] <emma> Sound of any kind.
[22:18] <FluxD> amainland: about same
[22:18] <Wisteso> FluxD: not really. video mode settings and top/bottom panels pose problems
[22:18] <emma> I can't even hear youtube.
[22:18] <corruptionoflulz> linxeh: oh, duh... here i was thinking of the nifty "fn" key on a lappy...
[22:18] <|adam|> tomd123: oh sorry did you?
[22:18] <linxeh> jenda: well I think thats what they meant ;-)
[22:18] <Flare183> emma:> i would check the cables first
[22:18] <emma> No sound of any kind from anything that sound comes from.
[22:18] <linxeh> corruptionoflulz: err, I think thats what they meant :)
[22:18] <MikeH> Can anyone point me to some high-res wallpapers?
[22:18] <emma> Okay I'll try that...
[22:18] <amainland> emma: you might be having a firefox issue not a OS issue
[22:18] <FluxD> emma: u cant use 2 apps that use sound together
[22:19] <MikeH> like 1900xwhatever
[22:19] <corruptionoflulz> and aww, oops, ment to send that to someone else, sorry munk_
[22:19] <linxeh> MikeH: of what ?
[22:19] <FluxD> Wisteso: for?
[22:19] <revilodraw> fluxd; u should be able to
[22:19] <Flare183> FluxD:> I do
[22:19]  * corruptionoflulz runs away for now.
[22:19] <munk_> corruptionoflulz,  its ok would u be able to help me with my prob too?!:P
[22:19] <MikeH> linxeh, Hrm, no idea, something blue? :P
[22:19] <|adam|> also any decent p2p progz for ubuntu?
[22:19] <seanfitz> dang... closed XChat! Issue again... I'm having problem with an external HDD... gone read-only on me and I can't change it back... anyone have a minute to help?
[22:19] <FluxD> revilodraw, Flare183 I have problems using xmms and VLC together
[22:19] <corruptionoflulz> munk_: whatsup? no sound?
[22:19] <revilodraw> adaml frostwire
[22:19] <emma> by using two aps that use sound that made it so that i have no sound on anything at all ever?
[22:19] <Flare183> adam:> ktorrent
[22:20] <|adam|> kk thx
[22:20] <revilodraw> fluxd; i cant play two audios at the same time either
[22:20] <FluxD> revilodraw, Flare183 and starting them from terminal tells me it cannot be used because another app i using it
[22:20] <seanfitz> Flare183> you had a comment, but I didn't understand it
[22:20] <corruptionoflulz> munk_: no wait.. video stuff.. sorry, i'm lost when it comes to that.. still don't even have compiz working on my desktop
[22:20] <Flare183> I ca
[22:20] <jenda> linxeh: yes, a laptop.
[22:20] <Flare183> i can
[22:20] <ethana2> !radeon
[22:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:20] <|adam|> do i need a firewall/antivirus etc?
[22:20] <linxeh> jenda: I dont think you can, I'm pretty sure the fn key gets implemented by the keyboard directly
[22:20] <ethana2> :(
[22:20] <ethana2> That's not what he needs..
[22:20] <askand> Anyone here know how to recover the backup made by gconf-cleaner? :(
[22:20] <revilodraw> adam; not really
[22:20] <B-rabbit> e
[22:21] <xipietotec> grrr.....every time I try to configure the ALPS touchpad it crashes my whole X
[22:21] <munk_> corruptionoflulz, its  hehehe i did it so many times but everytime i have a different problem that no one had before me...or so it seems at first look
[22:21] <jenda> linxeh: dammit
[22:21] <revilodraw> adam; if u r paranoid, get firestarter
[22:21] <munk_> corruptionoflulz, ill get it sooner or later
[22:21] <linxeh> jenda: I might be wrong, :o
[22:21] <MikeH> Hrm, any other msn clients other than amsn? Amsn seems a bit slow to me
[22:21] <MikeH> Non-KDE please.
[22:21] <ethana2> pidgin
[22:21] <hockeyfan5000> Pidgin
[22:21] <ethana2> using it right now
[22:21] <ethana2> for IRC
[22:21] <ethana2> everyone should
[22:21] <ethana2> it's awesome
[22:21] <|adam|> dont you get virus or spyware on linux then?
[22:21] <FluxD> pidgin kinda sux for irc
[22:21] <ethana2> nope
[22:21] <MikeH> Ok, I'll check it out.
[22:21] <Flare183> seanfitz:> run this: gksu <your file manager> and then find the hd and right click it chagne the permissions
[22:22] <MikeH> But not for IRC
[22:22] <ethana2> How so?
[22:22] <jenda> linxeh: I hope you are ;)
[22:22] <MikeH> I'll stick with xchat ta
[22:22] <linxeh> jenda: pretty sure all the fn key does is change the keycode sent to the computer, it doesnt generate a keycode itself like the ctrl / shift keys do
[22:22] <FluxD> ethana2: I am on almost 15 networks and over 30 channels :)
[22:22] <ethana2> right
[22:22] <jenda> linxeh: I'll ask xev that question ;)
[22:22] <ethana2> I've done that
[22:22] <ethana2> :)
[22:22] <tyronepolleri> hi where can i ask questions about wine
[22:22] <tyronepolleri> ?
[22:22] <ethana2> #wine
[22:22] <FluxD> I prefer tabs to this huge list
[22:22] <seanfitz> Flare183:> tried that... wouldn't let me
[22:22] <Flare183> KDE for me I'm using Konversation
[22:22] <ethana2> I'd try that
[22:22] <Flare183> thats weird
[22:22] <Flare183> !root
[22:22] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:22] <linxeh> jenda: xev ?
[22:22] <jenda> linxeh: correct :(
[22:23] <jenda> linxeh: x event something... try the command xev - it spits out keycodes :)
[22:23] <domenico> Is there a way to fully uninstall the metapackage xubuntu-desktop
[22:23] <linxeh> jenda: ah sorry, i thought you might have meant someone I knew heh
[22:23] <Tuxthepenguin> #winehq
[22:23] <ethana2> #wine redirects there
[22:24] <MikeH> hrm
[22:24] <Cegonux> hmm
[22:24] <linxeh> jenda: yeah, I used that on Slackware years ago when I was remapping the extra keys on a sun keyboard :P
[22:24] <MikeH> Is it possible to make  the status icons in pidgin smaller?
[22:24] <linxeh> jenda: I use macs now :P
[22:24] <Cegonux> its not easy working with a ppc machine
[22:24] <|adam|> what is the biggest difference between linux and ubuntu?
[22:24] <ethana2> linux is ubuntu's core
[22:24] <FluxD> |adam|: kernel is same
[22:24] <ethana2> linux, xserver, gnutils
[22:24] <jsoftw> |adam|: yeah people will go on about how linux is a 'kernel' and waht not.
[22:25] <jsoftw> |adam|: ubuntu is a 'distrobution'.
[22:25] <jsoftw> But whatever, when people arnt being all picky and wahtever, they call ubuntu a linux. Just like redhat gets called a linux.
[22:25] <jsoftw> And such.
[22:25] <jsoftw> And you could say that distros are different flavours of linux.
[22:25] <rambo3> gnu/linux
[22:25] <jsoftw> yeah whatever.
[22:25] <ethana2> Macs are fine for Linux-- just as long as you don't want anything proprietary
[22:25] <Sisco> Does the VMware Tools work with Ubuntu?
[22:25] <ethana2> same with the PS3
[22:25] <ethana2> PS3 ~ Mac
[22:26] <ethana2> PPC
[22:26] <|adam|> yes i understand that but what makes ubuntu better than windows?
[22:26] <FluxD> Sisco: I think yes
[22:26] <ethana2> everything
[22:26] <zapada> where is the recycle bin on gutsy?
[22:26] <FluxD> |adam|: everything is free basically
[22:26] <bruenig> jsoftw, linux is the name of the kernel, that is why it is silly to call something a linux
[22:26] <PriceChild> zapada, bottom right, or in ~/.Trash
[22:26] <ethana2> it's Free
[22:26] <Flare183> !ubuntu | |adam|
[22:26] <ubotu> |adam|: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[22:26] <magnetron> !gnu | jsoftw
[22:26] <ubotu> jsoftw: G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org
[22:26] <phiqtion> !kiba-dock
[22:26] <jenda> linxeh: :)
[22:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:26] <Wisteso> |adam| if you've ever used ubuntu and windows at length, that's obvious
[22:26] <zapada> PriceChild, thanks
[22:26] <FluxD> zapada: /home/name/.trash
[22:26] <ethana2> it doesn't kill itself in the middle of the night
[22:26] <phiqtion> !kiba
[22:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:26] <munk_> anyone here can help me with nvidia to activate glx?
[22:27] <|adam|> i have got a lot of learning to get used to ubuntu i see lol
[22:27] <zapada> |adam|, it's nice
[22:27] <|adam|> so far the feel is loads better than windows
[22:27] <windego40> hello
[22:27] <FluxD> and u can do fancy box stuff :)
[22:27] <revilodraw> my sound has gone really quiet, but everythign is on max?
[22:27] <hockeyfan5000> it blows the socks off Windows
[22:27] <bruenig> !ot | |adam|
[22:27] <ubotu> |adam|: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:28] <windego40> does anyone know how i can unrestrict files?
[22:28] <revilodraw> if linux blew the socks off windows, this channel wouldnt exist
[22:29] <|adam|> i have just purchased that cedegar and now i found that you can use wine instead?
[22:29] <Wisteso> sure it would
[22:29] <firebirdy> windego40: the quick'n dirty way, type this in a terminal: sudo chmod 777 filename. Not sure if that fits your question though :)
[22:29] <FluxD> |adam|:  its optimized for games
[22:29] <lusepuster_> |adam|, Wine is harder to set up and I'm not sure it runs as many apps as Cedega
[22:29] <Ubmin> revilodraw: you wouldn't say that if you realized that we are all here because we have the time to help support it.
[22:29] <bruenig> revilodraw, it is more of a problem with the type of user ubuntu attracts, other linux channels are often terminally silent or just off topic all the time
[22:29] <lusepuster_> |adam|, Cedega is aimed at making windows gaming easy on LInux
[22:29] <|adam|> for 3 pounds a month i cant complain:)
[22:30] <windego40> firebirdy: well im trying to create a directory but says permissi0on denied
[22:30] <Cegonux> ethana2: i wrote you in the tab
[22:30] <Cegonux> i didnt see it, sorry
[22:30] <Ubmin> revilodraw: no one's getting paid to do this, so what you get is something you should be thankful for
[22:30] <doug_asdf> does anyone know how to configure tightvnc to see the existing desktop instead of xdesktop?
[22:30] <magnetron> lusepuster_: Wine has higher quality
[22:30] <firebirdy> windego40: may I ask where you are trying to create the directory?
[22:30] <ethana2> yarr.. maybe pidgin isn't the best
[22:30] <ethana2> a bug perhaps
[22:30] <Ubmin> revilodraw: now, are you sure the speakers didn't get blown? tried the PCM?
[22:30] <ethana2> It should have created another tab when you responded
[22:30] <FluxD> ethana2: :p
[22:30] <revilodraw> ubmin, bruenig; i too am a linux/ubuntu user -  i love it. but wish i didnt have so many probs!
[22:30] <lusepuster_> magnetron, sure, but is harder for the noob to set up
[22:30] <firebirdy> I personally ditched pidgin for aMsn... which is a pity but it doesn't support offline messages yet :(
[22:30] <bruenig> revilodraw, the problems are probably user related
[22:31] <ethana2> libjingle will be awesome
[22:31] <revilodraw> ubmin; im using my laptop speakers... pcm says full volume
[22:31] <ethana2> when it happens
[22:31] <FluxD> revilodraw: most are user created problems or their hardare
[22:31] <hockeyfan5000> revilodraw: The comment I made was about the loading of the OS if your read it...lol
[22:31] <Ubmin> revilodraw: well, if i were you, i wouldn't listen to bruenig, he's known to spread mis-information.
[22:31] <hockeyfan5000> revilodraw: what is the issue, not sound or buzzing?
[22:31] <Ubmin> revilodraw: anything if you cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp  ?
[22:31] <Cegonux> ethana2: i chose tha radeon driver
[22:31] <ethana2> Cegonux: try typing at me now
[22:31] <revilodraw> ubmin, bruenig; less dissention is the support channel!\
[22:32] <lusepuster_> This might be OT, but I'll give it a shot: I'm trying to build amsn from svn, but it says it can't find tcl-builddir... I installed tcl8.4-dev, does anyone know what I need?
[22:32] <revilodraw> ubmin; type that into terminal?
[22:32] <bruenig> Ubmin, hardly
[22:32] <Ubmin> revilodraw: yeah
[22:32] <windego40> firebirdy: well im trying to set up a belkin usb wireless adapter but the comman i type wants to create a directory in..../lib/modules/.2.6.22 or something like that
[22:32] <talata> yo
[22:32] <revilodraw> device or resource is busy
[22:32] <Ubmin> bruenig: last week you tried to help me, and it didn't work, and at that point in time, you left the chat.  sorry, i take that as a stab.
[22:33] <talata> >_< ki conai un bn truk pr se parler?
[22:33] <firebirdy> windego40: oic. Just add 'sudo ' in front of the mkdir command. it'll ask you for your password
[22:33] <revilodraw> ubmin; he probably had something to do!
[22:33] <FluxD> revilodraw: u cant use 2 apps using sound at the same time
[22:33] <Ubmin> bruenig: you didn't know what you were talking about so you pulled a rabbit out of a hat, and that's not appreciated. if you don't know the answer, don't bother helping.
[22:33] <bruenig> revilodraw, tend to be related to ignorance, for the most part, the people with problems probably do like to learn, but you often get those wanting a quick fix without care of how it works which keeps the channel constantly flooded because they have another problem and they have to come again
[22:33] <Cegonux> ethana2: i wrote you, and i see your writing
[22:33] <FluxD> !fr | talata
[22:33] <ubotu> talata: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:33] <windego40> firebirdy: oh ok thanks
[22:33] <talata> daccord pa de french
[22:33] <revilodraw> flucd; i know! but the one i am using is very quiet
[22:33] <bruenig> Ubmin, what was your problem?
[22:33] <dcesiel> Hey guys, all of my browsers including firefox and opera are really slow to open, close and switch tabs.  Does anyone know how I could fix this?
[22:33] <Ubmin> bruenig: you.
[22:33] <ethana2> Cegonux, I can try to support you via email
[22:33] <Ubmin> revilodraw: so anything from the speakers?
[22:33] <PriitM> I wonder why do I have active connections to brazil and israel while I have closed all apps which could use internet. Picture of Firestarter active connections: www.priitm.planet.ee/1/fs.png
[22:34] <Sisco> whats the best packet sniffer for ubuntu?
[22:34] <revilodraw> ubmin; yes, its playing properly, just too quietly
[22:34] <bruenig> Ubmin, wow you certainly are clever, are you talking about the framebuffer advice? that was the only thing recently that couldn't even be close to considered a stab
[22:34] <ethana2> Wireshark
[22:34] <firebirdy> Sisco: Wireshark
[22:34] <Sisco> kk
[22:34] <magnetron> dcesiel: those are slow browsers. install epiphany instead.
[22:34] <Cegonux> ethana2: i guess IM doesnt work properly
[22:34] <Ubmin> bruenig: no, it was the shell scripting problem. i eventually found someone who knew what they were talking about.
[22:34] <emma> Okay I still have no sound. I guess I'm going to turn off my computer and turn it back on again.
[22:35] <ethana2> Cegonux: yeah
[22:35] <emma> Before I do that, is there anyway to kill all processes on my computer except for xchat?
[22:35] <revilodraw> emma; pls dont take this the wrong way, but u should have tried that first!
[22:35] <dcesiel> magnetron: This is a brand new Core Duo computer, I should not have speed issues
[22:35] <ethana2> emma: bad idea
[22:35] <Ubmin> bruenig: again, if you don't know how to solve the problem, don't even try.
[22:35] <Cegonux> do you have a icq account?
[22:35] <FluxD> emma: not a good thing to do
[22:35] <emma> Turning off and then on isn't good?
[22:35] <bruenig> Ubmin, yeah I guarantee you I know more about shell scripting than you do
[22:35] <ethana2> Cegonux: MSN, MySpaceIM, freenode, Gchat
[22:35] <PriitM> I wonder why do I have active connections to brazil and israel while I have closed all apps which could use internet. Picture of Firestarter active connections: www.priitm.planet.ee/1/fs.png
[22:35] <magnetron> dcesiel: with those browsers, you will
[22:35] <ethana2> Cegonux: and skype
[22:35] <FluxD> emma: just restart and see
[22:35] <Cegonux> ok msn would be fine
[22:35] <Ubmin> bruenig: keep spreading your lies
[22:35] <emma> revilodraw,  if i turn off my computer I have to log off of xchat and I wanted to avoid that.
[22:35] <suttin> Hey guys, i just installed KOrganizer, and the only way i can get it to open is to go into the terminal. Is there an easy way to make icons of programs i downloaded with synaptic packet manager?
[22:36] <dcesiel> magnetron: I'm having the same issue with ephiphany
[22:36] <Sisco> How do I change the resolution in ubuntu?
[22:36] <revilodraw> emma; yeh fair enough
[22:36] <ethana2> at gmail.com
[22:36] <emma> Every time I log out of IRC some #@$% on another network steals my name.
[22:36] <ethana2> no colon
[22:36] <FluxD> bruenig, Ubmin :  Please dont argue here just take it elsewhere
[22:36] <Ubmin> Sisco: system->preferences->screen resolution
[22:36] <dcesiel> my cpu usage skyrockets whenever I try to use tabs
[22:36] <emma> Okies see you guys in a bit.. hope it works :)
[22:36] <magnetron> !register > emma
[22:36] <FluxD> emma: register ur nick
[22:36] <ouellettesr> hello I just tried to install feisty, when I rebooted, it says operating system not found
[22:36] <Sisco> its hery high res by default
[22:36] <Sisco> ;o
[22:36] <emma> Oh yeah on this network (my fave network) I'm fine.
[22:36] <magnetron> dcesiel: how much memory do you have?
[22:37] <bruenig> Ubmin, here is one you might like, the script for zenwalk linux used for packaging software: http://pastebin.ca/804953
[22:37] <Ubmin> bruenig: i don't care, that doesn'tsolve any current problems.
[22:37] <magnetron> !grub > ouellettesr
[22:37] <Cegonux> ethana2 AT gmail DOT com?
[22:37] <ethana2> yes
[22:37] <ethana2> :)
[22:37] <dcesiel> Magnetron: 1Gb
[22:37] <ouellettesr> I noyiced before I rebooted there was an icon on the desktop that said /target
[22:37] <ouellettesr> noticed*
[22:37] <jordan> Is the NETGEAR  WG511T supported in Gutsy?
[22:38] <bruenig> Ubmin, don't be stupid and act like I don't know what I am talking about with bash when I do. I don't know to what you are referring specifically, you said I left so that is probably why. But calm down a bit.
[22:38] <revilodraw> PriitM: it says u were using bittorrent...
[22:38] <magnetron> dcesiel: how large swap partition?
[22:38] <ouellettesr> magnetron, shouldn't the installer have installed grub?
[22:38] <hockeyfan5000> swap typically is 1.5 x of your memory, correct me if I am wrong
[22:38] <PriitM> revilodrwa, I was, but I have closed it
[22:38] <revilodraw> does your volume in gxine control ur whole computer's volume?
[22:38] <Cegonux> hmm
[22:38] <dcesiel> magnetron: 353mb
[22:39] <emma> do you think restart would be as good as turning it off and then back on?
[22:39] <firebirdy> hockeyfan5000: rather 1x with current memory sizes these days I believe :)
[22:39] <firebirdy> hockeyfan5000: but what do I know, I don't use any
[22:39] <revilodraw> emma; thats what a restart is
[22:39] <Cegonux> i cant figure out how to add a msn user via pidgin
[22:39] <Nelsmar> hey anyone here using compiz? im curious your memory usage
[22:39] <hockeyfan5000> thanks firebirdy...
[22:39] <ethana2> k
[22:39] <Cegonux> ethana2: could you add me? cemgoektas AT hotmail DOT com?
[22:39] <magnetron> ouellettesr: the installer will give you the option to install grub, but for some reason, it seems damage. ubotu provided you with instructions for repair
[22:39] <ethana2> got it
[22:39] <Cegonux> ok
[22:39] <Cegonux> sorry
[22:39] <phanto1> ATI 7.11 install Has it problems? How do I install it?
[22:39] <Nelsmar> because im usin g.... about 400MB more memory when i turn compiz on :D
[22:40] <Cegonux> cemgoektas AT hotmail DOT de
[22:40] <jsoftw> Blah.
[22:40] <hockeyfan5000> Nelsmar: I can give you exact , but its not taxing my memory really
[22:40] <magnetron> Nelsmar: did you enable extra compiz plugins or themes?
[22:41] <Nelsmar> magnetron yeah ... doenst matter what i enable though
[22:41] <Nelsmar> it slowly eats more memory over time
[22:41] <revilodraw> my sound is way too quiet
[22:41] <ethana2> .de?
[22:41] <Cegonux> yes
[22:41] <Nelsmar> its fine for 10mins but after 10mins my memory fades. and after 20  mins im uisng 100% usage basicly
[22:41] <magnetron> !de > ethana2
[22:41] <hockeyfan5000> you have lastest software updates Nelsmar?
[22:41] <shadowh511> hello, i need some help configuring wine 0.9.50 to run microsoft digital image suite 10, i try to run the setup app, an i get two looping messages about MDAC, and on how the system needs to reboot before it can install, but the messages loop, how can i fix this?
[22:41] <hockeyfan5000> !winehq
[22:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winehq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:42] <magnetron> Nelsmar: are you using the version of compiz-fusion that came with ubuntu?
[22:42] <Pollman_> hockeyfan5000, I've decided to install ubuntu, previously I was running it from a flash drive
[22:42] <FluxD> !wine | shadowh511
[22:42] <ubotu> shadowh511: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:42] <hockeyfan5000> go to www.winehq.com shadowh511
[22:42] <Nelsmar> magnetron yup
[22:42] <hockeyfan5000> ahh Cool Pollman
[22:42] <Pollman_> hockeyfan5000, although now on the partition part its stuck at 0% saying its resizing the partition
[22:42] <suttin> Hey guys.
[22:42] <Nelsmar> magnetron:  i just tried to enable it on normal settings i get <1fps and it lags reallllll bad. i have to reboot before i can enable it again. i didnt seem to have a problem before 7.10
[22:43] <phanto1> Help upgarding to ATI 7.11 please
[22:43] <shadowh511> they won't help me there
[22:43] <Pollman_> Is it normal to for the ubuntu installation for the partition part to stay at 0% "resizing partition..."?
[22:43] <hockeyfan5000> Nelmsar you sure is not your video and only appears to be memory?
[22:43] <magnetron> Nelsmar: what card do you have? try running "restricted drivers manager" in system menu
[22:43] <suttin> I installed a couple of programs off the synaptic packet manager, and i was wondering if there was an easy way to make icons for them, or a way to add them to the applications menu. Any ideas?
[22:44] <Nelsmar> magnetron: i enabled the nvidia restricted and i just updated them this afternoon i have a 6200 mobile video card
[22:44] <hockeyfan5000> Hey are there any good linux hard drive tests, such as Drive Fitness or Ontrack on Windows?
[22:45] <B-rabbit> suttin, have you tryed using the "add/Remove" manager
[22:45] <Pollman_>  Is it normal to for the ubuntu installation for the partition part to stay at 0% "resizing partition..."?
[22:45] <suttin> b-rabbit: is there a way to add icons for it?
[22:45] <revilodraw> pollman; none of mine have
[22:45] <suttin> from it rather
[22:46] <Nelsmar> magnetron: any ideas?
[22:46] <FluxD> hockeyfan5000: fsck checks filesystems
[22:46] <Pollman_> :\ its done that the last time I tried to install so I cancelled
[22:46] <Nelsmar> compiz is unusable on my laptop ;x i havnt tried on my desktop...
[22:46] <magnetron> Nelsmar: no
[22:46] <Nelsmar> magnetron: weird huh? what video card are you using?
[22:46] <MikeH> I have a promise "fake" raid controller onboard my a8v, is it possible to get that array working under ubuntu?
[22:46] <hockeyfan5000> yea flux I need to use it mainly for surface scan, not necessarily file structure
[22:46] <Nelsmar> and are yo using compiz?
[22:46] <Pollman_> Should I cancel it if its not doing anything?
[22:46] <magnetron> suttin: right click the desktop and create a launcher
[22:47] <hockeyfan5000> Nelsmar I am using  a Q6700 with  8800GTX and I dont have any issues
[22:47] <suttin> ok, thanks magnetron
[22:47] <Nelsmar> hockeyfan5000: whats your MB usage right now?
[22:47] <magnetron> Nelsmar: i have a geforce 3 ti 500
[22:47] <Nelsmar> my laptop only has 512mb of ram... but cmon vista only uses 400mb... lol
[22:47] <revilodraw> my sound just went really quiet from my laptop speakers.. i think the problem is that my totem sound is down, and that seems to control my whole computer's sound...but i cant open totem
[22:47] <hockeyfan5000> hold on I will tell you
[22:47] <Nelsmar> which is alot more than 7.04 was... but still 0.0
[22:47] <Sisco> is there cisco vpn client for ubuntu?
[22:47] <Nelsmar> just the fact im usign 511mb of ram with compiz on is kinda eep!!!
[22:47] <rambo3> Nelsmar: you can run notepad
[22:48] <Ubmin> Sisco: yeah
[22:48] <Nelsmar> rambo3:  what?
[22:48] <hockeyfan5000> 298 of 2GB Nelsmar
[22:48] <Sisco> Ubmin: link?
[22:48] <Nelsmar> hockeyfan5000: damn i dont know wahts going on. btw what are you doign with a GTX on linux? ll
[22:48] <Nelsmar> lol*
[22:48] <WuGutsyClan> hey I am installing vmware, and it is asking me the location of the directory of C header files matching my kernel, I am supposed to say /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/include... but when I check that directory, the build folder si shown in red (in terminal), and it is not accessible... help
[22:48] <Pollman_> Can someone walk me through a manual partition install?
[22:48] <hockeyfan5000> Dual booted
[22:48] <hockeyfan5000> I still need to play my games
[22:48] <Ubmin> Sisco: no link, but: sudo apt-get install vpnc   <-- installs it.  and... apt-cache show vpnc  <-- shows you what it's about
[22:48] <Nelsmar> hockeyfan5000: ah was gonna say thats a waste XD i use ubuntu on my laptop for work... and just use windows for my gaming rig
[22:48] <hockeyfan5000> I havent got NHL 08 working with Wine yet
[22:49] <jcrawfor> HAS ANYONE HERE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED UBUNTU ON A MAC PRO AND GOTTEN THE WIFI CARD TO BE RECOGNIZED?
[22:49] <Ubmin> !caps
[22:49] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[22:49] <WuGutsyClan> jcrawfor, yes
[22:49] <jcrawfor> I HAVE LOADED ALL OF THE MAD WIFI MODULES BUT IWCONFIG STILL DOES NOT SEE MY WIFI CARD
[22:49] <WuGutsyClan> but I cannot connect to wpa jcrawfor
[22:49] <jcrawfor> damn sorry for the caps guys
[22:49] <Ubmin> :)
[22:49] <Nelsmar> hhmmm i wonder where the memory leak is and why you guys dont have the same problem as me. honestly i bet its the video drivers having a problem with GLX being anbled or something
[22:49] <Pollman_> I cancelled the partition operation mid partition because it wasn't doing anything
[22:50] <WuGutsyClan> jcrawfor: I will be happy to help you in a minute if someone helps me with my problem first, its actually pretty easy to get wifi working..
[22:50] <Pollman_> for the second time
[22:50] <jcrawfor> i cannot seem to get it to recognise my wifi card is in there so i cannot do anything lol
[22:50] <hockeyfan5000> Nelsmar what card are you running?
[22:50] <Nelsmar> hockeyfan5000: on my desktop or laptop?
[22:50] <wundaboy> what editor is popular for editing things like php scripts? (on windows i used EditPlus and liked it alot)
[22:50] <hockeyfan5000> the one that has bad memory issue
[22:50] <Nelsmar> laptop, nv 6200 mobile
[22:50] <jsoftw> I use vim
[22:50] <WuGutsyClan> hey I am installing vmware, and it is asking me the location of the directory of C header files matching my kernel, I am supposed to say /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/include... but when I check that directory, the build folder si shown in red (in terminal), and it is not accessible... help
[22:50] <Nelsmar> wundaboy: i use nano
[22:50] <Ubmin> wundaboy: vim for advanced editting
[22:50] <Murrlin> geany (for x)
[22:50] <WuGutsyClan> jcrawfor: did you do modprobe .....
[22:50] <John_R> anybody know how to get gmail notifier to stop popping up that annoying window?
[22:51] <B-rabbit> wundaboy, i use Gphp edit
[22:51] <Pollman_> Can someone please walk me through the manual partition setup?
[22:51] <jcrawfor> WuGutsyClan: ok cool
[22:51] <Nelsmar> John_R isnt that why you installed the gmail notifier.... to notify you? lol
[22:51] <jcrawfor> WuGutsyClan: yes i did modprobe
[22:51] <John_R> i jsut want it to turn blue when there is new mail
[22:51] <|adam|> where is program files directory in ubuntu?
[22:51] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: you need to install the headers... apt-cache search 2.6.22 headers
[22:51] <jcrawfor> to like 4 modules that was stated on a page about macbook pro wifi
[22:51] <jcrawfor> that did not seem to help at all
[22:51] <John_R> not lag my machine to death giving a speech :)
[22:51] <Ubmin> |adam|: /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin and /usr/bin
[22:52] <ouellettesr> magnetron, I tried the link on repairing my grub and it doesn't work
[22:52] <sachi> how to kiba dock
[22:52] <Pollman_> brb I think I screwed up my disks
[22:52] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: I have them installed
[22:52] <ghost> i love irssi
[22:52] <magnetron> ouellettesr: oh, sorry about that
[22:52] <viajador> |adam|: but the best is for you to forget that "logic". Things are diferent in Linux
[22:52] <magnetron> !doesn't work | ouellettesr
[22:52] <ubotu> ouellettesr: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[22:53] <ghost> question, what is the prefered upgrade method for going from 6.06 to 7.10
[22:53] <John_R> ghost: clean install
[22:53] <John_R> back up your home dir and let her rip
[22:53] <magnetron> !upgrade | ghost
[22:53] <ubotu> ghost: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:53] <ghost> John_R really?
[22:53] <sleepster> how can I help with the Ubuntu effort
[22:53] <jsoftw> sleepster: donate a minimum of $100,000 ;)
[22:53] <sleepster> haha
[22:53] <ghost> jsoftw nice
[22:53] <sleepster> I am a student, I make no money
[22:53] <John_R> lol@jsoftw
[22:53] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: is vmware giving an error?
[22:54] <magnetron> !contribute > sleepster
[22:54] <ouellettesr> magnetron, well jst like I said it does not work, the tutorial says to use tab completion to find the root partition, and tab only returns a list of commands
[22:54] <Ubmin> sleepster: install it, learn it, use it
[22:54] <jcrawfor> WuGutsyClan: just let me know when you are ready by sending me an IM
[22:54] <ouellettesr> magnetron, oh sorry about that
[22:54] <ghost> Well, my alternate install disk has troubles on my IBM T61
[22:54] <jsoftw> sleepster: I guess whatever you can. Bugreports. Patches. Whatever is usefull and fixes/improves things
[22:54] <WuGutsyClan> jcrawfor: yup
[22:54] <tinin> Hi, does anybody know a good OCR scanner software?
[22:54] <jsoftw> Im rather happy with ubuntu :)
[22:54] <ghost> the install media works as it worked on a T30...
[22:54] <smooker_> someone pls help, after i login GNOME session i see blank screen :( only Xforce and KDE i can login.
[22:54] <Nelsmar> your a student... what are you learning? start programming and help it develope :D
[22:55] <ghost> jsoftw, i am returning to ubuntu after a stint in gentoo
[22:55] <jsoftw> It is my choice for workstation now.
[22:55] <ghost> apt-get owns all
[22:55] <jsoftw> Yeah gentoo :\
[22:55] <jsoftw> I dont think much of that
[22:55] <Nelsmar> i used to looveeeee gentoo i heard the dev's getton eh on it though
[22:55] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: it keeps defaulting me to /usr/src/linux/include.. but the tutorial I am following says its in /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/build/include .. and I have looked in that folder but I cannot get into build.. it is shown in red in terminal when I LS 2.6.22-14-generic folder
[22:55] <Nelsmar> and its nto going anywhere
[22:55] <Nelsmar> gentoo was my fav distro 0.0
[22:55] <ghost> the only thing i don't like about ubuntu is after every upgrade i ahve to 'trim the fat' again
[22:56] <viajador> trim the fat? :|
[22:56] <magnetron> ouellettesr: first type "root " THEN hit tab for tab completion
[22:56] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: do you have a /usr/src/linux-2.6.22-14-generic/ ?
[22:56] <WuGutsyClan> yes
[22:56] <ghost> well for instance, I don't need software for bling people periferals.
[22:56] <WuGutsyClan> but in that folder Ubmin I cannot get into build folder
[22:56] <ouellettesr> magentron, you mean sudo root?
[22:56] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: it is there, but it is in red (in terminal), and I cannot get into it
[22:56] <Ubmin> do this: sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.22-14-generic /usr/src/linux
[22:56] <magnetron> ouellettesr: no
[22:56] <ouellettesr> it says to type sudo grub
[22:56] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: then try the vmware again
[22:56] <magnetron> ouellettesr: do that
[22:56] <ouellettesr> I did
[22:57] <ghost> Anyway, I should be able to run an update from 6.06 to 7.10 without a new install
[22:57] <jsoftw> I dont care about 'the fat' in ubuntu. As its not really like you have to carry it with you, you can just not run it.
[22:57] <ouellettesr> magnetron ir brings me to the grub prompt, then if I hit tab, it returns a list of commands
[22:57] <magnetron> ouellettesr: then, inside the grub menu, type root <space> <tab tab tab>
[22:57] <ouellettesr> ok
[22:57] <Nelsmar> ghost you can update to 6.10 then update to 7.10 from there i belevie
[22:57] <Nelsmar> seems like thats what i did on my server
[22:57] <Nelsmar> its in the wiki
[22:58] <Nelsmar> read how to update to 6.10
[22:58] <Nelsmar> then once ou have 6.10
[22:58] <Nelsmar> read how o update to 7.10
[22:58] <magnetron> !enter > Nelsmar
[22:58] <Nelsmar> XD
[22:58] <DHI0424> hey guys I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 desktop and I can only get my reselution to 800x600 how would I fix this?
[22:58] <DHI0424> I'm trying to get a better reselution
[22:58] <ouellettesr> magnetron that returns, Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist
[22:59] <Nelsmar> DHI0424: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add some more resolutions?
[22:59] <ghost> Nelsmar, OK that sounds reasonable. I will try to 6.06>6.10>7.10
[22:59] <ghost> brb
[22:59] <Nelsmar> scrool down(down arrow) and youll see hwat i mean
[22:59] <Nelsmar> ghost yeah its anoying... but it works :D
[22:59] <poe> anyone have a minute for an ubuntu first-time install newb
[22:59] <Nelsmar> i had to update my friends from 5.04 lol
[22:59] <magnetron> ouellettesr: try using the find command in grub as desscribed on the web page
[22:59] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: yeah its not working
[22:59] <wols_> !ask | poe
[22:59] <ubotu> poe: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[22:59] <Nelsmar> poe: whatchya needin? im soposed to be working but... lol
[23:00] <revilodraw> my sound is way quiet
[23:00] <ouellettesr> Magnetron I did and I says no suck file or directory
[23:00] <Netham45> is there software I can put on my USB drive to boot to a DVD player on my laptop without a hard drive?
[23:00] <ouellettesr> such*
[23:00] <wols_> DHI0424: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:00] <wols_> DHI0424: what videocard do you have?
[23:00] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: after you made the symlink, is the other one still red?
[23:00] <sachi> can someone guide me to install kiba-dock
[23:00] <revilodraw> nehtam; why?
[23:00] <ouellettesr> magnetron, I think im going to try reinstalling it one more time
[23:00] <WuGutsyClan> symlink?
[23:00] <poe> heh, OK, I'm installing gutsy from CD, and stall out whenever I rn the graphical installer with an error about Gnome_fastuserswitching applet not loading
[23:00] <WuGutsyClan> when did I do that Ubmin
[23:01] <ouellettesr> maybe I messed something up
[23:01] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: yeah, symlink is short for 'symbolic link'
[23:01] <Nelsmar> poe try text based installer?
[23:01] <poe> I've done some searching but no luck
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Netham45: If you mean have a livecd and a persistent /home on usb
[23:01] <magnetron> !alternate > poe
[23:01] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: I never did anything regarding that, what should I do?
[23:01] <Nelsmar> poe: i woudl first try a disk check ... option shoudl be there when you throw the cd in. make sure there are no errors on the cd
[23:01] <poe> I gotta download the alternate don't I
[23:01] <Netham45> I mean watch a DVD video
[23:01] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: like this:  rwxrwxrwx  1 root src        40 2007-11-05 16:51 linux -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic
[23:01] <jsoftw> Anyone here program PIC microcontrollers on ubuntu?
[23:01] <cbx33> hey anyone available to help setup ubuntu as a gateway with NAT?
[23:01] <Ubmin> d'oh!  lrwxrwxrwx  1 root src        40 2007-11-05 16:51 linux -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic
[23:02] <solid_liq> anyone installed the ov511-source before?
[23:02] <Ubmin> there, didn't get the lowercase L the first time
[23:02] <poe> dagummit I knew it would come to this. OK thanks!
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Netham45: you can put ubuntu on a 4gig usb and do it.. yea
[23:02] <WuGutsyClan> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     40 2007-11-06 20:48 build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic Ubmin
[23:02] <Netham45> Jack_Sparrow, it is a 1gb
[23:02] <Nelsmar> poe just try installing with the text based its quite simple to use
[23:02] <Netham45> brb
[23:02] <Nelsmar> its almost identical
[23:02] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: try this:  cd /usr/src && ls -l linux
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> jsoftw: Not in ubuntu.but I will eventually.  Let me know what you find
[23:02] <poe> one more quicky: so, I booted up in safe graphics mode and it;s moving much faster
[23:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Netham45: nope
[23:03] <poe> only I can't get the bottom of the graphical installer to show!
[23:03] <Nelsmar> poe thats the option i was sayin to use :D should go through.
[23:03] <FangLiger> hey are the RT61 gigabyte drivers still broken in 7.10
[23:03] <poe> thanks nels, I guess I'll do that
[23:03] <Nelsmar> what do you mean the bottom fo the graphical installer?
[23:03] <smuggle> Hello all!
[23:03] <jsoftw> Jack_Sparrow: what do you use? MPLabs or something?
[23:03] <iskaldur> can i have some help? im trying to start kubuntu, but my computer hangs at a black screen with the words "running local scripts"
[23:03] <magnetron> !hi | smuggle
[23:03] <ubotu> smuggle: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[23:03] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: that didnt do anything
[23:03] <iskaldur> (it's not entering a login screen, and there's no command prompt...i can ssh in, though)
[23:03] <|adam|> do games run as good on cedega as they on windows?
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jsoftw: Dont remember the name, I programmed a bunch of differnet micro's
[23:04] <DHI0424> wols_: nVidia RIVA 128
[23:04] <poe> it boots, and I get no errors, but the grahical install utility is like only half showing the screen res is too low
[23:04] <Nelsmar> adam: short answer. no
[23:04] <FangLiger> Iskaldur are you trying to install or just start?
[23:04] <|adam|> why is tht?
[23:04] <DHI0424> wols_: should I still do that? :)_
[23:04] <Frederick> Anyone else having issues with ubuntu installation and lcd monitors?
[23:04] <magnetron> |adam|: no. and i recommend Wine over cedega
[23:04] <iskaldur> just start (ive had it installed for a while)
[23:04] <Nelsmar> poe: wish i could see what you were talking about. but are you able to jus tinstall with text based? i think its called grpahical safe mode or something i cant really remember off the top of my head
[23:04] <magnetron> !anyone | Frederick
[23:04] <ubotu> Frederick: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:04] <FangLiger> how long have you let it sit at the black screen?
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: Post your xorg and make sure you know your refresh rates on your hardware
[23:04] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: when I go to the 2.6.22-14-generic folder through nautilus, the build folder dosent even show up
[23:04] <iskaldur> FangLiger: a couple hours
[23:05] <WuGutsyClan> but when I ls it I can see it in red in terminal
[23:05] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: ok, while you're CWD is /usr/src, do this:  sudo ln -s linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic linux
[23:05] <Nelsmar> for gaming i just run two os i keep windows for gaming
[23:05] <Frederick> Jack_Sparrow: ptoblem is it hangs on installation I dont even manage to install :(
[23:05] <FangLiger> okay because i know my laptop takes FOREVER to boot kubuntu
[23:05] <poe> hmm, graphical safe mode just seems to be a very low res version of the regular ubuntu desktop
[23:05] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: you need to do this in the terminal window
[23:05] <WuGutsyClan> CWD? Ubmin
[23:05] <Ubmin> nautilus can't solve it
[23:05] <sachi> can someone guide me to install kiba-dock please
[23:05] <magnetron> !alternate > Frederick (read private message from ubotu)
[23:05] <Nelsmar> poe: sec let me see if i had anything goign on my desktop
[23:05] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: 'current working directory'
[23:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: Use the alt cd...   Many systems that I try dont work with the livecd
[23:05] <iskaldur> yah, it's not just a time issue...it usually boots quickly
[23:05] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: nautilus isn't going to help
[23:06] <|adam|> well the only game i want to run is WOW
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: I can play with it as in F6 and different modifiers.. but simpler to just run the alt for me
[23:06] <Carl> j/ #ubunu-se
[23:06] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: yes I thought Nautilus wouldn't doo much, alright in /usr/src.. I did that
[23:06] <Carl> j/ #ubunu-se
[23:06] <Carl> j/ #ubuntu-se
[23:06] <WuGutsyClan> and now in /usr/src I see a folder (in red), called linux
[23:06] <smuggle> I have a issue in my mplayer..
[23:06] <smuggle> everytime i open a flv player on mplayer, the sound and the image doesn't "match"... the image comes late...
[23:06] <smuggle> i use Ubuntu 7.10
[23:06] <smuggle> anyone here did saw something like that?
[23:06] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: try to: cd linux
[23:06] <solid_liq> anyone know how to fix a problem with a module that module-assist is having difficulty building?  specifically, it bombs out when looking for a config.h file in the linux kernel source tree
[23:06] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: no file or directory
[23:06] <RuanE_> Hey
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: Hoe many of the modifiers did you try.. noapic and many others
[23:06] <solid_liq> *module-assistant
[23:06] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: but I see it whne I do LS.. but it is in all red
[23:07] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: ok, then:  sudo rm linux
[23:07] <Frederick> can i have alternate for 64 bits?
[23:07] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: removed it...
[23:07] <Frederick> Jack_Sparrow: I tried none
[23:07] <RuanE_> Just asking for some help with Ubuntu 7.10 x60
[23:07] <RuanE_> *x86
[23:07] <FangLiger> so can someone tell me why my wireless internet seems to randomly die? i'm running a gigabyte RT61 chipset card
[23:07] <Nelsmar> poe: i foudn a 7.04 disk let me see if i can find the option im rebooting my desktop now.
[23:07] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: and: cd linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[23:08] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: my CWD should be... before I do that command
[23:08] <RuanE_> I can ping domains, get traceroutes succesfully onto the interwebs, but I cannot browse in Firefox
[23:08] <sachi> can someone guide me to install kiba-dock please
[23:08] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: /usr/src
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: I havent played with gutsy much, I have it on a couple of friends machines.. I use feisty for my work box
[23:08] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: I do not have a folder like that in /usr/src
[23:08] <Ubmin> RuanE_: check your proxy settings for firefox
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sachi: Is it from our repos?
[23:08] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: does it matter that I got the headers through apt-get???
[23:09] <Ubmin> WuGutsyClan: apt-get is the preferred method
[23:09] <newbie> how can I put the deskbar applet in my desktop?
[23:09] <RuanE_> I have tried Auto and Direct - there is no Proxy on the network
[23:09] <sachi> repos?
[23:09] <IanLiu> Sometimes, when I press the Log off button, my Ubuntu break, and I have to CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE to shut it down... has someone experienced this too?
[23:09] <Ubmin> RuanE_: can you telnet to port 80 on a host?
[23:09] <WuGutsyClan> Ubmin: then should I have a folder like 2.6.22 in my /usr/src folder? I do not have a folder like that in there, I have one in /lib/modules/ like that though..
[23:09] <Nelsmar> poe; hit F4  seelct 800x600 and then boot in safe mode?
[23:10] <Frederick> so the alternate uses the old installer?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sachi: We normally use synaptic... apt-get,, or aptitude to install software that has been tested to work with Ubuntu from our repositories
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Frederick: test insraller
[23:10] <FangLiger> lanLiu: do you have a log off button?
[23:10] <Jack_Sparrow> text
[23:10] <Frederick> oki
[23:10] <IanLiu> hmm, no.. where should I take it?
[23:10] <IanLiu> oh
[23:10] <RuanE_> Ubmin: Not overly sure how to do that, could you guide :)
[23:10] <poe> ok thanks
[23:10] <IanLiu> ops, missread... I have a log off button on top right corner...
[23:10] <Ubmin> RuanE_: open a terminal, type:  telnet yahoo.com 80
[23:11] <Nelsmar> poe: i swore there was a boot mode for text based but i cant find it :(
[23:11] <RuanE_> ace, thanks
[23:11] <newbie> hello, does anybody can tell me how can I install the deskbar applet searching tool if I erased it?
[23:11] <DHI0424> wols_: thakn you very very much, I really apprecaite that, thank you again.
[23:11] <poe> sokay
[23:11] <IanLiu> In fact, it is not a log off button... You can Reboot, Shut Down, switch users... those things
[23:11] <wols_> DHI0424: was away a bit. you need to use nv as the drievr I guess
[23:11] <RuanE_> No, it is currently just sat there trying to connect :S
[23:11] <RuanE_> oh wait
[23:11] <RuanE_> no
[23:11] <RuanE_> connected
[23:11] <poe> I'm getting somewhere with this low res thing
[23:11] <RuanE_> ^] for escape
[23:12] <poe> it was moving so slow in the regular mode that I couldn't get anything done at all
[23:12] <icE> irc.wyldryde.org how do i get to that room?
[23:12] <Jack_Sparrow> icE: room or server?
[23:12] <icE> idk
[23:12] <IanLiu> Is there a place where crashes are reported?
[23:12] <FangLiger> lanLiu: see if this helps https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/435 it helped me
[23:12] <icE> server i guess then its #sliptpaw
[23:13] <FangLiger> it might have nothing to do with your problem though
[23:13] <IanLiu> Imm, I will see
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> icE:   so   /j  #room/or/channel
[23:13] <Ubmin> RuanE_: should be working fine then
[23:13] <icE> Jack were do i put that?
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lancetw: It would help if you can tell us the problem...
[23:14] <vmproblem> Hi, I have a question bout getting Ubuntu (which is in a Virtualbox vm) to be able to share windows xp files, and visa versa
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> icE: type it starting with the slash j then room
[23:14] <Nelsmar> well good luck poe i hope it installs for ya. i gotta run ou thte door now
[23:14] <RuanE_> Ubmin: It's not :/
[23:14] <mirak> is there an application that would advise what hardware to buy and that would be supported fine on Ubuntu ?
[23:14] <poe> Nelsmar: thanks!
[23:14] <mirak> it could be fine
[23:14] <RuanE_> Ubmin: just says the connection has timed out
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ~hardware
[23:14] <IanLiu> FangLiger: No, thats not the same problem
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[23:14] <mirak> Jack_Sparrow: ?
[23:14] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[23:14] <vmproblem> hey H_M-XP :D
[23:14] <H_M-XP> Hello.
[23:14] <H_M-XP> :D
[23:15] <sachi> ki
[23:15] <jcrawfor> WuGutsyClan: you done?
[23:15] <mirak> Jack_Sparrow: ah GUI would be nice, or well something that would point to that page directly from gnome desktop
[23:15] <Ubmin> RuanE_: do you have a lot of important bookmarks saved?
[23:15] <RuanE_> Ubmin: I seem to recall having the same issue with an earlier version of Kubuntu, and never solved the issue
[23:15] <vmproblem> Hi, I have a question bout getting Ubuntu (which is in a Virtualbox vm) to be able to share windows xp files, and visa versa
[23:15] <RuanE_> No, I have nothing at the moment, it is a fresh install
[23:15] <rafal> after logging to ubuntu there is no panels (in KDE) help?
[23:15] <Ubmin> RuanE_: i'm running kubuntu on this system :)
[23:16] <Ubmin> RuanE_: ok, quit firefox, open a terminal and type:  rm -rf .mozilla/
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mirak: For now.. that link is what we have
[23:16] <Ubmin> RuanE_: then run firefox again
[23:16] <bcardarella> Are there any examples of bash scripts to clear all private history data? (i.e. Firefox history, Gnome history, etc...) from the command line? Just one script to clean everything up?
[23:16] <mirak> Jack_Sparrow: I know but this complaint comes often from linux bashersn
[23:16] <mirak> -n
[23:16] <ouellettesr> Hello, I just installed using the live cd, when the installer finished, I see two icons on my desktop A /TARGET, AND A /TARGET/HOME
[23:17] <ouellettesr> and when I reboot I get OPERATING SYSTEM NOT FOUND
[23:17] <RuanE_> Ubmin: No, Mozilla still seems to be full of Lack
[23:17] <newbie> how can I search a file within my hdd, if I do not know the exactly location?
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> mirak:  This is a help room.. for discussion see #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:18] <Ubmin> newbie: locate <filename>
[23:18] <FangLiger> ouellettesr: did you install GRUB?
[23:18] <vmproblem> Hi, I have a question bout getting Ubuntu (which is in a Virtualbox vm) to be able to share windows xp files, and visa versa
[23:18] <Ubmin> newbie: if that doesn't work: sudo updatedb && locate <filename>
[23:18] <Ubmin> updatedb takes awhile to finish
[23:18] <newbie> Ubmin: does this also searches for folders?
[23:18] <_H_M-XP_> Can someone help me run a server on Ubuntu 7.10 Server?
[23:19] <ouellettesr> FangLiger: yes, I clicked advanced in the installer , and install bootloader was checked already
[23:19] <Ubmin> newbie: you can locate buntu and it will return everything that it knows about on the system that contains the phrase: buntu
[23:19] <dryyoutear> I'm trying to install an Snes emulator GUI on my PS3 running Ubuntu and when I try to use the 'make' command I get the error saying './depcomp was not found' .  Does anyone know what './depcomp' is and where I can get it?
[23:19] <DHI0424> wols_: everything worked just fine, thank you very much.
[23:19] <newbie> Ubmin, Ok, thanks!
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essentials
[23:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[23:20] <ouellettesr> newbie, if it is a new file, you may want to run updatedb before you use locate
[23:20] <FangLiger> ouelletteser: have you tried just re-running the installer?
[23:20] <ouellettesr> FangLiger: yes this is my secong attempt
[23:20] <ouellettesr> FangLiger:  im going for a third now I guess
[23:20] <quittt> how do I change X-CHAT font?
[23:20] <vmproblem> Hi, I have a question bout getting Ubuntu (which is in a Virtualbox vm) to be able to share windows xp files, and visa versa
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ouellettesr: IS this is a single boot system.. ide or sata drives.. and where are you installng grub bootloader
[23:21] <FangLiger> ouellettesr: it sounds like it's messing up the MBR on your hard drive, but i don't really know how to fix that in linux
[23:21] <vmproblem> quittt Settings>Advanced Text box
[23:22] <tinin> Hi, does anybody know a good OCR scanner software?
[23:22] <RuanE_> Does anyone know how to sort this issue, otherwise I may have to switch back to the horrors of Vista :(
[23:22] <soundray> tinin: it's a weak spot for open source -- but try tesseract
[23:22] <quittt> vmproblem, sorry... it is not the font... it is the encoding
[23:22] <Babble> I've lost my menu bars
[23:22] <Babble> The bars that appear at the top and the bottom of the screen
[23:22] <ouellettesr> Jack_Sparrow: Yes , it is a single boot system, the hard drive is a  laptop hd, not really sure what kind, it is a sony vaio pcg-grz610, and im doing a basic installation, when I clicked advanced tab at the end of the installer, "install boot loader" was checked and hd0 was selected
[23:22] <tinin> soundray I have just seen it, but i think it has no gui
[23:23] <Babble> I can still run applications from a created launcher but alt+f2 to run programs doesn't work
[23:23] <jsoftw> What is a good visio type program for ubuntu?
[23:23] <vmproblem> Hi, I have a question bout getting Ubuntu (which is in a Virtualbox vm) to be able to share windows xp files, and visa versa
[23:23] <Ubmin> RuanE_: what website did you try to go to?
[23:23] <soundray> tinin: that's right. gocr has a gui, I think -- but it's not as good recognition-wise (unless it's made progress in the last couple of years)
[23:23] <Ubmin> !ask | vmproblem
[23:23] <ubotu> vmproblem: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:23] <FangLiger> jsoftw: i think Open Office.org has visio support
[23:24] <RuanE_> google, and various others - Yahoo and a few forums I frequent
[23:24] <kitche> vmproblem: what's your problem since you didn't really state it
[23:24] <tinin> soundray gocr is unreadable :(
[23:24] <Ubmin> FangLiger: negative, houstan.
[23:24] <FangLiger> ah okay
[23:24] <ouellettesr> vmproblem: I think you may need ntfs-config
[23:24] <LiMaO> i just quit trying to make this stupid capture card work =/ it once worked. i forgot the settings and now it won't work anymore!
[23:24] <FangLiger> i stand corrected
[23:24] <jsoftw> FangLiger: hmm
[23:24] <ouellettesr> not sure though
[23:24] <vmproblem> Kitar|st how do i share files on a vm?
[23:24] <tinin> im going to try tesseract or use some wine trick ;P
[23:24] <soundray> tinin: what do you mean -- is the recognition insufficient?
[23:24] <ouellettesr> vmproblem: get ntfs-config
[23:24] <Babble> not sure how to go about fixing the session... do i need to change xorg.conf?
[23:25] <vmproblem> ouellettesr for ubuntu?
[23:25] <ghost> is anyone familiar with an apt command to remove unneeded libs and other dependancies?
[23:25] <ouellettesr> yes
[23:25] <tinin> soundray p|.c |'dl l( un>Elc <lue cl ()ji\'rn   CílT\Cl\líÚ o lllcln fl\  \|
[23:25] <tinin> that's it
[23:25] <vmproblem> ouellettesr ok but the Ubuntu is on a vm, that ok:?
[23:25] <soundray> tinin: have you got a license for closed source OCR?
[23:25] <dryyoutear> I'm trying to install an Snes emulator GUI on my PS3 running Ubuntu and when I try to use the 'make' command I get the error saying './depcomp was not found' .  Does anyone know what './depcomp' is and where I can get it?
[23:25] <ghost> like is apt robust enough to remove dependencies as well as the package I want uninstalled
[23:25] <vmproblem> ouellettesr ok and what would i have to do on the windows side, if any?
[23:26] <FangLiger> jsoftw: see if this helps http://www.osalt.com/visio
[23:26] <ouellettesr> vmproblem: if you want ubuntu to read ntfs filesystems over network I think you need that
[23:26] <Ubmin> FangLiger: there's another program but i can't remember what it's called :(
[23:26] <ouellettesr> vmproblem: not sure about the other way around
[23:26] <RuanE_> Ubmin: Everyone I have spoken to, even the supreme Ubuntu gods are now completely stumped :(
[23:26] <tinin> soundray yeah, it may be somewhere around
[23:26] <Oli``> how do I restart artsd ?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt see much on that sony laptop
[23:26] <tinin> thanx
[23:26] <soundray> tinin: I once needed OCR for a single project, and I got by with a Abbyy Finereader trial. I was very impressed.
[23:27] <tinin> i was thinking the same
[23:27] <ouellettesr> hmm
[23:27] <jsoftw> FangLiger: not really. Its not what I want.
[23:27] <Jessicatz> is there any way to abort fsck when running on boot? I don't want to disable it, just aborting it when I don't have much time
[23:27] <FangLiger> okay well i don't know what i'm talking about
[23:27] <jsoftw> Basically I want to draw diagrams of networks, and at the moment I want a diagram of a project I am working on...
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> RuanE_:  Can we assume, you never went outside our repos .. or ran scripts like automatix or envy.. both bad ideas btw...
[23:27]  * FangLiger mutters to himself how he really shouldn't try and help people since he's trying to learn this newfangled linux thingy majigger
[23:27] <valehru> Hey guys, I got myself a new ipod touch.  Activated it in windows, it now just doesnt want to seem to mount at all in gutsy.  I tried df and it doesnt even have an entry for it.
[23:28] <ouellettesr> Jack_Sparrow: I wonder if its how im setting up partitions, I make 3: a /, a swap, and a  /home
[23:28] <soundray> tinin: I ran it directly, though. Search the wine site for info on OCR before you invest much time -- there is bound to be info
[23:28] <smookerPC1> someone pls help, i cant login with GNOME Session ! only KDE * Xf
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> ouellettesr: Just try not setting up your partitons.. let the installer have the drive and do what it wants
[23:28] <tinin> soundray i'll try first tesseract
[23:28] <Babble> Thanks for nothing... i killed gnome-panel and then ran it and I got my menubars back..
[23:29] <RuanE_> Jack_Sparrow: I haven't barley touched the OS - it is a complete fresh installation, done about 2 hours ago.
[23:29] <ouellettesr> smooker do you have kubuntu or ubuntu?
[23:29] <soundray> tinin: well, I hope you don't have multicolumn text :)
[23:29] <ouellettesr> ok Jack_Sparrow
[23:29] <RuanE_> Another point to note is that it failed trying to access the Mirrors
[23:29] <smookerPC1> Ubuntu
[23:29] <smookerPC1> 7.10!
[23:29] <jcrawford> ok anyone else here gotten the wifi card on the mac pro to work in Ubuntu?
[23:29] <ouellettesr> no need to yell at me
[23:29] <ouellettesr> lol
[23:29] <soundray> jcrawford: I've tried and given up
[23:29] <ompaul> RuanE_, you got some kind of proxy on your network, cos you are sure showing the symptoms of i
[23:29] <ompaul> it
[23:29] <jcrawford> I have loaded the following modules but my card still does not show under iwconfig
[23:30] <soundray> jcrawford: otherwise it's a great machine to run Ubuntu :)
[23:30] <smookerPC1> it was working fine now after Firefox Lagged last time i cant login, just Blank screen
[23:30] <smookerPC1> Black*
[23:30] <RuanE_> ompaul: I will shut off all other machines on the network to eliminate the problem
[23:30] <jcrawford> modprobe new_wlan_scan_sta, modprobe new_wlan_tkip, modprobe new_ath_pci, modprobe new_wlan
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> RuanE_: did you verify the md5 on the cd you used?.. and errors on accessing the repos .. we see a few of those but they clear up quickly .. they just get busy...
[23:30] <ouellettesr> smooker, so you installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop?
[23:30] <soundray> jcrawford: I don't think it works under gutsy kernels yet
[23:30] <smookerPC1> and Xubuntu Desktop
[23:30] <smookerPC1> all over Ubuntu
[23:31] <smookerPC1> but all was working fine, all the day.
[23:31] <soundray> jcrawford: do you have an Atheros card? Mine's a broadcom...
[23:31] <jcrawford> bah that blows...
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> smookerPC1: not over.. just another wm alongside
[23:31] <jcrawford> i have no way to connect it via cable either lol the router is 3 rooms away
[23:31] <ouellettesr> smooker can you logout and change the session?
[23:31] <matttis> Hi, does anyone know how to work (good) with __photorec__ ? I would like to filter the recovered files by the doctype (xml headline).
[23:31] <RuanE_> Jack_Sparrow: When I burned the disc I verified the disc against the image, though I didnt check the MD5 Hash on the actual image. I have been having other wierd errors also with certian Taskbar modules.....
[23:31] <smookerPC1> Yes i can
[23:32] <zloog> Is it possible to setup diffrent xorg.conf files for diffrent users?
[23:32] <soundray> jcrawford: if you have Atheros, I'll take it all back. There's a good chance you'll get wifi with that with a bit of fiddling
[23:32] <rafal> when ubuntu will be usable?
[23:32] <ouellettesr> and what does it do when you login to the gnome session?
[23:32] <jcrawford> how do i tell if i have that?
[23:32] <soundray> rafal: don't do this please
[23:32] <ghost> Zloog, i think so, I have heard of people running multiple X servers
[23:32] <soundray> rafal: describe your problem and give us a chance to help
[23:32] <ompaul> RuanE_, if the firewall only passes info from the proxy server then you got issues - you need to know more about your network than just assuming that is the case, check out the web browser settings on two other machines and look for proxy settings
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> RuanE_: SOmething isnt cleanly installed... check the md5.. make sure no funny sources creep into your setp..
[23:32] <ghost> I would have no clue how though
[23:32] <smookerPC1> i hear the Sound then nothing appear only Yellow then black screen
[23:32] <soundray> jcrawford: lspci should tell you
[23:33] <rafal> soundray: no really, I just installed ubuntu and like 20 bugs I noticed... most recent: the Panel (kde) dissappear... (I have to run "kicker" by hand after each log in) :(
[23:33] <rafal> soundray: the bug above is the most recent
[23:33] <aschmack> alrighty so im trying to help someone upgrade ubuntu through a loopmounted image
[23:33] <aschmack> anyone got any advice
[23:33] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, it is a clean install - hardly likely - na this is a config issue, I install enough stuff on my little strangely configured network to make it worth my while
[23:33] <jcrawford> xack well right now i am in OS X
[23:33] <ouellettesr> smooker, im not sire what's wrong, maybe you could try and reconfigure the xserver
[23:33] <jcrawford> sec i will find out in the other channel how to tell on this os :)
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> rafal: First off, you are being rude.  second this is Ubuntu not Kubuntu..
[23:33] <MACscr> How do i install ubuntu off a live cd?
[23:33] <smookerPC1> maybe its coz i changed the login screen ?
[23:33] <zloog> ghost: I want to run 2 diffrent users for X at once so that each reads form a different mouse and different keyboard and uses different monitors. Does it sound like im on the right track?
[23:33] <soundray> rafal: that's not a bug though. I suspect you ran a graphical program with sudo. Do a 'sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.kde' to fix
[23:34] <smookerPC1> how can i change my GNOME login screen ?
[23:34] <ompaul> MACscr, you just click on an install icon on the desktop
[23:34] <soundray> rafal: sorry, 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.kde'
[23:34] <rafal> soundray: brb
[23:34] <ompaul> smooker, system administration login window
[23:34] <jcrawford>   Wireless Card Type:	AirPort Extreme  (0x14E4, 0x87)
[23:34] <ghost> zloog yeah i think you will need to run two differnt x servers. I would star your research there
[23:34] <jcrawford>   Wireless Card Firmware Version:	Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (4.170.25.8)
[23:34] <MikeH> anyone care to recommend a decent torrent client that supports download timeframes and rss?
[23:34] <RuanE_> ompaul: This is a relativley simple home network, it has 4 machines, on none of which have ever needed a proxy server, I can traceroute absolutley fine, and I can see that it just goes straight out of the router, onto the interner
[23:34] <ghost> because two different serers woul be able to handle two differnt inputs, etc
[23:35] <jcrawford> that's all i see for info on that soundray
[23:35] <zloog> jcrawfod I've had success running utorrent 1.6 in wine
[23:35] <ghost> zloog: I would also ask in #linux
[23:35] <jcrawford> zloog: what does that have to do with anything lol
[23:35] <zloog> thanks for the suggestion ghost. I'll ask in there
[23:35] <ghost> as that sounds like a more general question
[23:35] <soundray> jcrawford: okay, that's bad news. I suggest you go and buy a cheap USB wireless card with a zd1211 chipset.
[23:35] <rafal> soundray: didn't help
[23:35] <magnetron> !deluge | jcrawford
[23:35] <ubotu> jcrawford: deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[23:35] <rafal> Jack_Sparrow: I am a bit irritated
[23:35] <zloog> whoops I ment to send that to MikeH
[23:35] <ghost> deluge ftw
[23:36] <zloog> MikeH: I've had success running utorrent 1.6 in wine
[23:36] <ompaul> RuanE_, and if you turn off all other machines reboot yours - if the problem goes away it is your router that needs to be told to hand out more ips and so forth
[23:36] <smookerPC1> brb
[23:36] <soundray> rafal: you probably need to log out and run this fix in a failsafe session or on a text console
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> rafal: So.. that does not excuse your rude behavior
[23:36] <reportingsjr> How do I hook a wireless printer up to my computer?
[23:36] <jcrawford> does usb wifi work well with linux?
[23:36] <reportingsjr> I've got the ip and everything, just not what to do with it
[23:36] <soundray> rafal: the other thing you can do is to 'rm -rf ~/.kde', but then you'll have to start over with your KDE configuration
[23:36] <rafal> Jack_Sparrow: the system marketed as usable have so many bugs,I found dozen of them in few hours of basing usage
[23:36] <rafal> soundray: hmm ok, brb
[23:37] <tohoyn> jcr: I have not managed to compile rt2570 on ubuntu 7.10
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> rafal: Stop being a troll
[23:37] <ghost> hey guys I am currently doing an update from 6.06 to 6.10, I have a 7.10 alternate install CD. do you think it would be wise to do a CD upgrade when I am finnished upgrading to 6.10?
[23:37] <libertario> hi all
[23:37] <tohoyn> jcr: but there was some new firmware for bcm43xx
[23:37] <MikeH> zloog, ooh, really?
[23:37] <tohoyn> jcr: I haven't tried if the new bcm43xx drivers work
[23:37] <Pollman> Can someone please help me with the ubuntu installation
[23:37] <MikeH> zloog, how did you go about doing that?
[23:37] <reportingsjr> How do I hook a wireless printer up to my computer?
[23:37] <soundray> jcrawford: zd1211 devices: yes. Atheros devices: yes. Orinoco devices: yes. Ralink devices: so-so. Broadcom devices: difficult.
[23:37] <jcrawford> tohoyn: can you point me to where to find them?
[23:37] <zloog> MikeH: Umm Lets talk in PM
[23:37] <Pollman> Why does it stay at 0% resizing the partition??
[23:38] <libertario> what is mean of the following command?  "find user's-home-directory -exec rm {} \;
[23:38] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: I think he's just frustrated. Was gone anyway.
[23:38] <MikeH> reportingsjr, wifi? get it connected to the network, then use cups to find it on the network.....
[23:38] <jcrawford> libertario: i think that will delete the users home directory and all files in it
[23:38] <tohoyn> soundray: do you know anything about the new bcm43xx drivers (bcm43xx-fwcutter)?
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom
[23:38] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[23:38] <rafal> OH MY DEAR GOD !
[23:38] <reportingsjr> MikeH: I'm connected to the network, what is cups? I did a test print so I have the ip and such.
[23:38] <Pici> libertario: That will delete the home directory and the root, its bad. dont do it.
[23:39] <rafal> kde just tried to make me deaf, and awaken half my family
[23:39] <ghost> have fun with the bcm43xx
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps
[23:39] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[23:39] <soundray> tohoyn: I seem to remember they won't work with the Mac Pro Airport device
[23:39] <ghost> do NOT use ndswrapper
[23:39] <MikeH> reportingsjr, and the test print worked ok?
[23:39] <Pollman> Please someone
[23:39]  * rafal slaps stupid kde and/or ubuntu developer 
[23:39] <Pici> rafal: Calm down.
[23:39] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Test print from the printer router :p
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Pollman: Describe your problem
[23:39] <reportingsjr> my bad
[23:39] <rafal> Pici: ubuntu just woke everyone up in my house
[23:39] <MikeH> reportingsjr, aah
[23:39] <MikeH> ok
[23:39] <smooker_> now after i changed the logon scr i cant login with KDE and GNOME only with the Xf
[23:39] <rafal> good job putting so loud noice as wellcome.
[23:39] <naxa2> hi! i need a picture manager something like f-spot, but with the feature to let me say how much i like a picture e.g. i give 5 stars. if i give 4 start next time to the same picture, avarage could be counted. do you know good picture manager software?
[23:39] <MikeH> Well, it's been a long long time since I've played with network printing
[23:39] <soundray> rafal: I think you might be best off running back into the arms of the monopolist. Then you'll have someone to blame for mishaps.
[23:39] <Pollman> Jack_Sparrow, I'm installing ubuntu guided partition and its stuck at 0% resizing partition
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> rafal: SHUTUP..
[23:40] <MikeH> However, if you google cups and network printing, that should get you on your way reportingsjr
[23:40] <rafal> !ohmy | Jack_Sparrow
[23:40] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:40] <teratorn> how to make the nipple on my thinkpad more sensitive? prefs in gnome are maxed.
[23:40] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: please, that's unnecessary
[23:40] <libertario> Pici: i executed "find /home/user -exec rm {} \; but don't remove directories
[23:40] <Pollman> Jack_Sparrow, I've tried installing 4 times and it does this everytime its been 45 minutes since I started
[23:40] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Will do! I would just like to set this up quickly as I have to do my homework. Not the time to do googling =\
[23:40] <smookerPC1> |
[23:41] <Pici> libertario: Dont do ANY commands unless you know what they do.
[23:41] <rafal> Pollman: I installed ubuntu yestarday and it is bug-ridden, perhaps some other linux distro is a real os and you might want to try it
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> soundray: He can be frustrated all he wants... He needs to show some manners or leave
[23:41] <smookerPC1> x|x
[23:41] <dmckee> I'm looking for a way to force quit an instance of a program.
[23:41] <MikeH> reportingsjr, you're lucky I'm in a good mood, I'll google for you then.
[23:41] <MikeH> :P
[23:41] <libertario> i don't untderstand {} \; options to rm
[23:41] <libertario> :)
[23:41] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: that's not for you or me to decide or police, though. Pici is on the case anyway
[23:41] <rafal> kde panel bug, gnome fails to start bug, kde controll center misses he monitor section.... :(
[23:41] <bruenig> libertario, {} is the filename that find is on, \; just terminates the end of the find command
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> soundray: I am free to express my opinion as well
[23:41] <Pollman> rafal, can you recommend an os that works with compiz-fusion?
[23:41] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Thanks! I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for, but I'm reading a few things.
[23:41] <nkbreau> can someone help me get sound working with 7.10 on my dell d830
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> soundray: I already ignored him anyway
[23:41] <Pici> libertario: {} is the output of of the find command.  \ is I dont know.
[23:42] <rafal> is ubuntu so horrible unstable (7.10) or am I too good beta tester?
[23:42] <nkbreau> i did some google searching but noithing helps
[23:42] <rafal> Pollman: I dont know
[23:42] <Pollman> 7.10 is a beta?
[23:42] <bruenig> Pici, the ; needs to be escaped so that it is fed literally to find, if not then bash just interprets it as the end of the command
[23:42] <tohoyn> rafal: I have it working fine
[23:42] <bruenig> and doesn't feed it to find
[23:42] <rafal> Pollman: perhaps ask #linux and distros like #gentoo #debian etc
[23:42] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: no, you are requested to keep the conversation on topic in this channel and to refrain from expressing your opinion on the troll status of participants.
[23:42] <bruenig> Pollman, any OS with a linux kernel
[23:42] <Pollman> Is Gutsy Gibbon a beta?
[23:42] <dmckee> Anyone know how to force quit a window/program ?
[23:42] <aschmack> no
[23:42] <bruenig> solaris too probably
[23:42] <nkbreau> i have no idea where to start.. please help !
[23:42] <tohoyn> rafal: what kinds of problems do you have with 7.10?
[23:42] <bruenig> dmckee, xkill
[23:42] <MikeH> reportingsjr, system -> administration -> printing
[23:42] <libertario> bruenig: thx
[23:42] <rafal> dmckee: in kde press  ctrl+esc trhen point at program
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !offtopic
[23:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:43] <libertario> Pici: thx
[23:43] <nkbreau> my soundcard isnt beoing detected
[23:43] <soundray> Jack_Sparrow: :)
[23:43] <MikeH> reportingsjr, add printer, if it doesn't detect it, I'd imagine your printer would work on the windows printer via samba
[23:43] <dmckee> GUI in gnome :-\
[23:43] <Pollman> Is gutsy gibbon a beta?!
[23:43] <aschmack> Pollman, nope
[23:43] <usser> no
[23:43] <MikeH> reportingsjr, but your printer docs should help you from there on.
[23:43] <bernier> Hi, I installed Xfce on my ubuntu to test it, then I removed it, but now when I want to log in I get the Xubuntu backgound. How can I change this?
[23:43] <soundray> Pollman: no, but I think you should be forgiven for thinking so
[23:43] <bruenig> bernier, in the login screen or on the actual desktop?
[23:43] <Pollman> Can someone please tell me why the ubuntu installer partitioner is stuck at 0%
[23:43] <rafal> tohoyn:  kde panel bug (dissapeared, afair after enabling saving session in kcontrol), gnome fails to start bug, kde controll center misses the monitor section at all (and kcmdshell display shows empty window)
[23:43] <jenda> I just installed Ubuntu on my new laptop, and the sound seems not to work at all.
[23:43] <leroy999> can anybody help me?
[23:43] <RuanE_> Jack_sparrow: I shut down all the systems on the network and rebooted the Ubuntu box, same issue
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[23:44] <soundray> Pollman: maybe you don't have enough memory
[23:44] <Pollman> bernier, I didn't think it was but rafal didn't say it was
[23:44] <reportingsjr> MikeH: How do I add the printer though? I can get to the default printer thing, but not how to actually add one.
[23:44] <Pici> rafal: You may want to ask KDE specific questions in #kubuntu, we are mostly Gnome users here.
[23:44] <tohoyn> rafal: I use ubuntu and xubuntu but not KDE
[23:44] <Pollman> bernier, I mean he said it was
[23:44] <rafal> Pollman: no, I asked
[23:44] <dmckee> just trying to close a frozen firefox window in gnome... anyone know the force quit command ?
[23:44] <Pollman> soundray, I have 2gb of RAM
[23:44] <MikeH> reportingsjr, look under administration not preferences.
[23:44] <RuanE_> Jack_Sparrow: I can traceroute, I have rebooted the router, changed network cables, changed NICs
[23:44] <Pollman> rafal, my bad
[23:44] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Hmm, ok!
[23:44] <rafal> dmckee:   killall firefox-bin
[23:44] <tohoyn> rafal: I have also had gnome startup bug occasionally some time ago
[23:44] <soundray> Pollman: oh. It's not that, then.
[23:44] <chuckles_> ?
[23:44] <rafal> tohoyn: oh? what was the bug exacly?
[23:44] <usser> dmckee, ps -Al | grep firefox
[23:44] <dmckee> ok thanks rafal
[23:45] <naxa2> i cannot edit my menu. if i change something in applications or in system, linux reverts to the original state in 1 minute. what can i do?
[23:45] <Pollman> soundray, it says its resizing the partition but its been stuck at 0% for 45 minutes
[23:45] <usser> dmckee, note the 4th number
[23:45] <tohoyn> rafal: The system jammed after login
[23:45] <bruenig> bernier, ok so you need to change the gdm theme, gksudo gdmsetup or somesuch
[23:45] <Pollman> soundray, this is the 4th time its happened
[23:45] <rafal> Jack_Sparrow: I am not stupidly trolling, I am just noticing how many problems (see above) there are
[23:45] <usser> dmckee, and then kill <that number>
[23:45] <tohoyn> rafal: I don't remember now what component was causing the problem
[23:45] <leroy999> i keep getting an error when trying to use pst on evolution
[23:45] <leroy999> debug_fp is null
[23:46] <ouellettesr> Jack_Sparrow: ok, im at the ready to install screen, and it says "The partition tables of the followind devices are changed: SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda), and when I click the advanced button, to see where grub is going to be installed, it says (hd0)
[23:46] <soundray> Pollman: since you have this massive amount of RAM, can I assume that your hard disk is big, too?
[23:46] <Pollman> soundray, 500GB
[23:46] <rafal> how would you people rate ubuntu?
[23:46] <soundray> Pollman: how big is the partition you want to resize?
[23:46] <mrcheeks> ouellettesr:choosing hd0 will put grub on the mbr master boot record
[23:46] <Pici> rafal: This is a support channel, please ask questions like this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:47] <rafal> Pici: ok
[23:47] <Pelo> rafal, this is the ubuntu channel,  what do you expect us to answer ?
[23:47] <tohoyn> rafal: quite high (after trying debian unstable)
[23:47] <mrcheeks> which is better than having the boot loader in a partition
[23:47] <Pollman> soundray, I was sort of confused about the guided partition, so I set it to 170gb, so is that going to make a 170gb partition and use that?
 got it thanks
[23:47] <matttis> how do i find out the my reiser file system block size ?
[23:47] <rafal> tohoyn: I rate it vert low, but I am discussin it in offtopic now
[23:47] <ouellettesr> mrcheeks: what if I have a sata drive though, whouldnt I need to have sda instead of had?
[23:47] <Pici> Pelo: psst, you may want to join -ops
[23:47] <soundray> Pollman: yes, but that's not what I was asking. I was wondering whether you currently had a single 500GB partition occupying the disk.
[23:47] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Sorry to be a bother, but which one should I choose? I have the host name, ip, subnet mask, and gateway. I have no clue what to choose. (e.g. Ipp,LPD/LPR, etc..)
[23:47] <MB5000> how do i get ubuntu to recognize the microsoft intellimouse USB?
[23:48] <ouellettesr> sorry instead of hd0
[23:48] <Pollman> soundray, there are two partitions, one for the os and files, and one is a restore partition
[23:48] <mrcheeks> ouellettesr:nope
[23:48] <MikeH> reportingsjr, use the windows/samba one i reckon.
[23:48] <Pollman> soundray, I'm worried that its not going to do anything and if I have to cancel it will screw up my files
[23:48] <soundray> Pollman: which one are you resizing?
[23:48] <mrcheeks> but in your /etc/fstab the partitions might be known as /dev/sda1 , etc.
[23:48] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Hmm, I'll try that then.
[23:49] <RuanE_> So I guess no one really knows the answer :/
[23:49] <Pollman> soundray, I'm pretty sure its the larger one
[23:49] <MikeH> reportingsjr, your printer control panel/docs should be able to give you more info on protocols etc.
[23:49] <Pollman> soundray, yes Its using partition #1 which is the 491gb one
[23:49] <ouellettesr> mrcheeks well I don't know what's wrong then, I have tried installing 3 times, and each time it says operating system not found after I reboot
[23:50] <soundray> Pollman: okay, 45 minutes is not nearly enough. Give it at least 6 hours, and ignore the progress indicator.
[23:50] <mrcheeks> ouellettesr:Did grub installed without errors? Are you using jfs as root file system?
[23:50] <leroy999> i keep getting an error when trying to use pst on evolution
[23:50] <leroy999> i keep getting an error when trying to use pst on evolution
[23:50] <_emet1> hi
[23:50] <leroy999> debug_fp is null
[23:50] <MB5000> anyone know how i can get my mouse to work.  i actually tried two: logitech g5 and microsoft intellimouse
[23:50] <Pollman> soundray. ok 6 hours thankyou. I was worried it wasn't doing anything and I would leave it on for days
[23:50] <reportingsjr> MikeH: I don't think it's samba because I don't have the port, nor the workgroup.
[23:50] <_emet1> is this the ubnutu channel
[23:51] <jenda> I can't get sound to work on my new laptop. No sound whatsoever, no matter which device I choose. Any tips?
[23:51] <Pollman> soundray, you're the first person to give me solid advice thanks
[23:51] <mrcheeks> MB5000:it should work
[23:51] <mrcheeks> try stopping gdm and using X -configure
[23:51] <mrcheeks> you can also install mdetect
[23:51] <mrcheeks> to detect your mouse informations
[23:51] <soundray> Pollman: I'm just extrapolating my experience, but the biggest disk I've dealt with was 250GB.
[23:51] <MikeH> reportingsjr, what print server do you have?
[23:51] <reportingsjr> MikeH: The router thing? Or the printer itself?
[23:51] <soundray> Pollman: sometimes it takes some patience and repeated questioning.
[23:51] <MB5000> how do u stop gdm I'm totally new to this
[23:51] <MikeH> whatever connects your printer to the network
[23:52] <ouellettesr> mrcheeks: after the installer finishes, I have a /target icon on my desktop and a /target/home/ I used ext3 filesystem
[23:52] <Pollman> soundray, I
[23:52] <Pollman> soundray, woops, I've also had trouble with the nvidia drivers but that may have been because I was running it off a usb in persistent mode
[23:52] <PeterT> Hello, I'm having trouble getting the java plugin to work in firefox.
[23:53] <Warp4> PeterT:  32 or 64 bit?
[23:53] <MikeH> reportingsjr, if your printer connects directly to the network, tell me what printer you have, if it connects to a print server that connects to network, tell me what that is :P
[23:53] <soundray> Pollman: I don't think so. NVidia drivers should work equally well on any installation type.
[23:53] <PeterT> Warp4: 32
[23:53] <freeman163> PeterT,  i find it's easiest to use synaptic to get the newest version of the JRE
[23:53] <proprietarysucks> does anyone know if there is a way, using a kickstart file, to tell ubuntu either: don't try to contact security.ubuntu.com or: don't ask to continue when it's not reached?
[23:53] <Pollman> soundray, It may have been I was doing something wrong, but it will still be much easier without having to go into the boot menu every time
[23:53] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Ok, I'm guessing the little box is the server.
[23:53] <kitche> PeterT: did you install the plugin?
[23:53] <Pollman> soundray, and hopefully it will boot faster
[23:53] <PeterT> Warp4: I've installed the sun JRE (and JDK) through synaptic.  I can compile and run programs from eclipse
[23:53] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Jet direct 170x
[23:54] <reportingsjr> *looks*
[23:54] <reportingsjr> *smacks head*
[23:54] <PeterT> Warp4: I also installed the plugin as far as I know
[23:54] <Warp4> PeterT:  did you restart firefox?
[23:54] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Now I see the HP JetDirect option!
[23:54] <PeterT> Many, many times
[23:54] <nkbreau> what is the command to run in ubuntu to tell ubuntu linux which java jvm to use of the ones i have installed ?
[23:54] <kitche> PeterT: you probably forgot the plugin which is a seperate package in ubuntu
[23:54] <MB5000> can I install ubuntu without a cd after it's already installed... like upgrade?
[23:54] <PeterT> kitche: I'll double check
[23:55] <ouellettesr> mb5000 type ctrl + alt + f3 and then do sudo killall gdm
[23:55] <Pelo> MB5000,  you can upgrade online, if thst is what you mean
[23:55] <Pelo> !upgrade | MB5000
[23:55] <ubotu> MB5000: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:55] <soundray> Pollman: make sure you install the -generic kernel and associated restricted modules. Come back here if you have trouble. Ask as specifically as you can
[23:55] <leroy999> i keep getting an error when trying to use pst on evolution
[23:55] <leroy999> debug_fp is null
[23:55] <doubleclick> hi, can anyone help me understand double forking to start a daemon? i don't like using it without knowing what the hell it's doing
[23:55] <Pollman> soundray, I'll try the generic kernel, I hadn't tried that before
[23:55] <PeterT> nkbreau:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[23:55] <MACscr> Hmm, the ubunto live cd doesnt like my Parallel area to much
[23:56] <soundray> !nvidia > Pollman, by specific I mean to say what happens when you follow the advice in the private message
[23:56] <Pelo> doubleclick,  you might want to consider asking that queswtion in ##linux,  this is more of a instalation support channel and the likes,
[23:56] <xenar> hey guys. just installed ubuntu/gnome 7.10. any of you know how to get rid of those 'foggy icons' in the 'task bar' and get a little more contrast and clarity into them?
[23:56] <MikeH> reportingsjr, is that what yours is?
[23:56] <nkbreau> PeterT - have the sun jdk installed already butt here is  a linux command to switch to another jvm
[23:56] <MACscr> Er, ubuntu, my apologies =P
[23:56] <MB5000> thanks guys
[23:56] <MikeH> reportingsjr, aah, I see, looks promising, any luck?
[23:56] <Pollman> soundray, thanks I've gotta run now but I hope this works
[23:56] <MACscr> Xenar : check this out http://tuxenclave.wordpress.com/2007/11/23/ubuntu-customization-guide-v2/
[23:56] <Pelo> xenar,  change the icon theme ?
[23:57] <reportingsjr> MikeH: Hmm, I tried print test just a second ago.. looks like no luck so far :(
[23:57] <jcrawford> ok so that driver did not work
[23:57] <soundray> Pollman: good luck
[23:57] <nkbreau> oops that was it
[23:57] <jcrawford> i installed the drivers, however when i went into restricted devices my card was not listed there
[23:57] <nkbreau> thanks PeterT
[23:57] <jcrawford> so i could not install the firmware
[23:57] <xenar> pelo: it's not the theme, it's the task bar making 'soft' the inactive icons
[23:57] <PeterT> ok nkbreau
[23:57] <MikeH> reportingsjr, :(
[23:57] <ULTIMO> ciao
[23:57] <reportingsjr> MikeH: No, it's not printing. :(
[23:57] <nkbreau> eclipse wont start though
[23:57] <PeterT> I tried installing a different JRE too, plus the corresponding plugin...
[23:57] <Pelo> xenar, are you talkinga bout the  printer icon ? just rightclick on it and hide
[23:57] <aschmack> Hey, how would i umount all drives except a cd image that is loopmounted from a smb network share
[23:57] <soundray> jcrawford: trust me, I don't give up easily. This is one worth giving up on.
[23:58] <jcrawford> :(
[23:58] <soundray> jcrawford: Broadcom is Evil when it comes to supporting free software.
[23:58] <jcrawford> is it only ubuntu or all linux distros?
[23:58] <nkbreau> i keep getting this A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[23:58] <nkbreau> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[23:58] <nkbreau> was found after searching the following locations:
[23:58] <nkbreau> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.11/jre/bin/java
[23:58] <queenofcrap__> hiya :3 how do i mount a bin/cue in ubuntu? can only find ways to mount iso
[23:58] <Pelo> aschmack,  sudo umount /mount/point , one by one
[23:58] <xenar> pelo: no all the window icons in the task bar. they are so soft that I find it hard recognizing them...though I'm getting used to them a bit
[23:58] <aschmack> it says device is busy
[23:58] <soundray> jcrawford: it's all free software kernels and OSs
[23:58] <PeterT> nkbreau: did you install using synaptic?
[23:58] <jcrawford> bah
[23:58] <nkbreau> eclipse was already installed
[23:59] <nkbreau> before i did the 7.10 upgrade
[23:59] <Pelo> xenar,  is this the default ubuntu theme ?
[23:59] <nkbreau> same with the jvm
[23:59] <PeterT> I doubt I can help much, then
[23:59] <queenofcrap__> how do i mount cue/bin in ubunut?
[23:59] <Pelo> xenar,  and we are talking about the bottom panel I take it ?
[23:59] <queenofcrap__> ubuntu*
[23:59] <soundray> jcrawford: don't complain to us. Write a friendly, professional letter to Broadcom and ask them to support free driver development with specifications.
[23:59] <Pelo> queenofcrap__, I don'T think you can
[23:59] <queenofcrap__> Pelo, ok, do you know how i convert it to iso?