[00:55] I'm trying to install alien on a laptop that has no net access atm, however by trying to download the .deb package it has dependencies and to install them they have dependencies etc. how can i download a package of alien that contains ALL the dependencies? [02:45] hey room [02:45] anyone check out gOS yet? [03:11] In xfce, settings>main menu bears no resemblence to what my menu looks like, ie. it shows "programming" while Xfce shows "develepment", why is this? [03:55] Viđi vraga su sedam binjišah, [03:55] su dva mača a su dvije krune, [03:55] praunuka Turkova s Koranom! [03:55] Za njim jata prokletoga kota, [03:55] da opuste zemlju svukoliku [03:56] ka skakavac što polja opusti! [03:56] Francuskoga da ne bi brijega, [03:56] aravijsko more sve potopi! [03:56] San pakleni okruni Osmana, [03:56] darova mu lunu ka jabuku. [03:56] Zloga gosta Evropi Orkana! [04:42] salut [05:49] Hello, anyone around? [06:00] yse [06:01] sorry this place is usually dead [06:01] if i can help you idbe glad to [06:06] haha it is a bit quiet around here :P [06:08] ok, in a nutshell: i run gentoo linux with xfce4. i really like the desktop right-click menu in xubuntu (it's not the default right-click menu for xfce). any ideas on how the developers allowed a right-click to spawn a different menu than the default? [06:11] mr-c, hmm not sure about xfce but in other wms there is a config file for it [06:12] i use xfce but i dont use r-click or middle click [06:13] soldats, there is a menu.xml file for xfce, which is used to generate the applications menu and, in the default xfce config, the right-click menu. somehow the guys at xubuntu for a custom rightclick menu to launch :-/ [06:13] im pretty sure xfce has a config file for it as well but i really dont know where its located [06:14] hmm id assume its in the .xml since thats the same file for other mindow managers [06:34] does anyone use linux software raid? [06:36] no one using mdadm for software raid 5? [06:37] no sorry [06:37] is there a gui for mdadm? [06:37] not sure i will check [06:37] thanks [06:38] I hear stuff about evms but have no idea if it was designed for mdadm [06:38] or how user friendly it is [06:38] http://www.issociate.de/board/post/262739/GUI_for_mdadm.html [06:38] maybe [06:38] ????? [06:38] haha thats what i found for it [06:39] yes thats from 2005 [06:39] I read that several times :( [06:39] evms doesn't have a clear site either [06:39] hah sorry thats just what i found i dont really know about raid [06:39] or mdadm [06:40] lol no problem thanks very much for trying [06:40] I want to install ubuntu to act asmy home server [06:40] I need to set up software raid 5 [06:40] and mdadm allows for raid 4 expansion [06:41] raid 5** [06:41] yea ive been wanting to do that as well but i havent gotten around to it [06:41] I meant raid 5 expansion [06:43] is there a way to meke feisty fawn lighter? Is there a way to make it boot faster. also is there a way to bypass the need to put in a password at launch and for everything else in the terminal? [06:52] yes [06:52] soldats how? [06:53] i'm currently researching mdadm i guess ill have to google that later [06:53] is anybody using xchat in xubuntu? [06:53] i am [06:53] i used it once [06:53] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper read this it amy help for you thyrax [06:53] because when i do settings -> preference -> enable sytem tray icon, my task bar disappears [06:53] nantax, i use it frequently but i also use irssi [06:54] the desktop panel, the time, network icon trash and quit icons disappears [06:54] nantax, really i never seen that mine did that automatically [06:54] but when i uncheck it, the icons comes back [06:55] nantax, thats crazy do you think it may be a compatabilty issue [06:55] no idea, my xubuntu is default [06:55] thyrax, did you get my link [06:55] i did not do anything fancy to it because i don't know how to do it [06:55] mine too mine just shows the xchat icon [06:55] screen saver is not working but when i installed icewm, it magically worked [06:56] nantax, fancy isnt always best i prefer to use cli and i usually boot without a gui [06:56] other than that, i have not installed anything [06:56] hah yea mine worked with e17 [06:56] also i want to map my win key so that the xfce menu will pop up ala windows start menu going up when you press the winkey [06:56] how do i do this in xubuntu? [06:57] doing it in the keyboard preferences does not work because when i press the win key, what appears is super+super_L [06:57] yes soldats thanks alot :) [06:57] gksudo gedit /etc/console-tools/remap this is the file to edit but i dont know the parameter to use [06:58] i herd alot of people saying the super user thing as well [06:58] i tried googling it but i didnt find anything worth while [07:00] nantax, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_remap_the_Caps_Lock_key_as_another_Control_key this a tut on the mapping keys but for del and backspace it may help if you know how to configure it the right way [07:00] soldats, thanks [07:01] i see you on here alot so if i find anything useful for you im mapping keys ill let you know [07:01] in** [07:03] thanks [07:04] im slowly making progress [07:04] at the moment, that is the only thing that i miss from windows [07:04] the win key for the menu, win+r for run, win+e for explorer, win+m for minimize all [07:05] if i can just make it so that pressing the win key registers as super only and not super+super_L [07:05] nantax, i just read something you may be able to change the super+super to just super and it may work but im not sure [07:05] try using the file [07:06] okay if you can give me a link, i will gladly go there [07:06] gksudo gedit /etc/console-tools/remap [07:07] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_remap_the_Caps_Lock_key_as_another_Control_key this is a small tutorial but its only the del and backspace key but it may help [07:07] or give insight [07:13] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=394947 [07:14] (Incorrect keyboard setup - xubuntu 7.10 i386 - Ubuntu Forums) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601268 [07:14] i think that this is it... maybe [07:54] there are config of xfce4 panel on /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel/ how to prevent from user modify it ? [07:54] with chmod ? [08:05] anyone? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [08:11] hey nantax [08:13] nantax, are you still here [08:16] nantax, i did some digging and ive come to the conclusion that the win key wont map in xfce, i think you might be able to add functionality to it if you do a command "xmodmap -e 'add Control = Super_R' " but im not sure if it works but i was able to map the menu key to the menu button next to the right side win key [08:18] if yo uhave that key it would suffice for you want to use it. so id suggest go to settings > keyboard > shortcuts and add a new menu option called xfce4-popup-menu then you will be able to edit the keys then double click on the xfce4-popup-menu and press the menu key (next to the right win key) and it should work [08:19] if you dont get this ill ask you another time i gotta run see yah [08:26] should atheros wireless cards be isntalled automatically? [08:26] or do i need to do something [08:44] echosystm, i think you need to use the restricted drivers manager [08:52] Is Codey the actual xubuntu team lead? [08:55] luisbg_: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/ [08:55] I was searching the wiki, it seams it was the wrong place =) === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen [09:11] there are config of xfce4 panel on /home/user/.config/xfce4/panel/ how to prevent from user modify it ? [09:11] how to do it with chmod? or any other idea ? [09:16] CyberMad, i think with chmod -w, but i dunno if it will kill xfce or not [09:16] CyberMad: better check the kiosk mode in xfce documentation [09:16] but yeah TheSheep's idea seems a lot safer :) [10:15] thanks TheSheep === totalyou1face is now known as totalyourface [11:41] 'morning guys [11:42] someone here knows a nice file manager that uses a tab system? [11:42] i liked not so much of thunar or dolphin [11:42] wtf [11:43] !language | nopcode [11:43] nopcode: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [11:43] you're not being serious? [11:43] xD [11:44] xDDDD [11:44] nopcode: I'am being serious. [11:44] lol [11:44] lol :) [11:44] scratch that ' [11:44] _o\ \o\ lol lo/ /o/ /o_ [11:45] so... [11:45] any file manager? [11:45] TheSheep: are you american, by chance? [11:45] just wondering [11:46] this reminds me of radical christians in the us that we hear about so often [11:46] !ot | nopcode [11:46] nopcode: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [11:46] nopcode: I'll be happy to discuss my etnicity on #xubuntu-offtopic [11:47] hahahahaha [11:48] so... where's the file manager? [11:49] TheSheep: know any? [11:49] FlashWolf: nothing I could recommend [11:50] :T [11:50] thunar: x; dolphin: x [11:55] FlashWolf: there was some early hack og thunar [11:55] of [11:55] TheSheep: what did u use? [11:55] hmmm... [11:55] i'll look for... [11:55] FlashWolf: PCMan [11:56] FlashWolf: I use thunar, but I don't like tabs, I even disabled tabs in firefox [11:56] oO [11:59] FlashWolf: http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/ [12:04] i'll take a look, TheSheep. thk u! :) [12:04] * TheSheep checks !u and sighs [12:19] is it just nvidia-glx to get nvidia working in xubuntu? [12:19] sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx [12:20] echosystm: better use the restricted drivers manager [12:20] i did that [12:20] it says... [12:20] "the software source for the package... nvidia-glx... is not enabled" [12:21] so i assume i have to apt-get it first? [12:21] echosystm: no, you need to enable the 'restricted' repository [12:21] TheSheep, sigh, there's a separate #xubuntu-offtopic? [12:21] !repos [12:21] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [12:21] ah [12:21] ok [12:21] why can't they all be linked to #ubuntu-offtopic? [12:21] didnt think of that :P [12:21] thanks [12:22] nanonyme: our offtopic is different :) [12:22] how? [12:22] nanonyme: different people, to start with [12:22] yeah, i think that's mostly a bad thing :P [12:22] the different people might want to talk to each other [12:23] nanonyme: it's not like we lock the channels or anything [12:24] no, it's just mostly forcing to join channels if you want to have the same conversation with different people and not be accused of cross-posting [12:25] and considering there's a maximum channel limit on freenode, i consider it a bit silly [12:25] that's all, sorry about opening up ;) [12:32] how does one get some desktop effects in xubuntu? [12:33] echosystm: you can enable transparency and shadows in settings→window manager tweaks [12:34] nah, i mean beryl type stuff [12:34] echosystm: well, install beryl or compiz [12:36] they can't be installed through some menu in xfce can they? [12:36] echosystm: through synaptics [12:36] synaptic [12:37] cheers [12:38] im heaps impressed with 7.10 [12:38] things come a long way since 7.04 :O [12:44] echosystm: for example what? [12:47] the whole video card thing [12:47] i dont remeber it being that easy [12:47] actually, i was using an alternate minimal install [12:47] haha, thats probably got something to do with it :P [12:48] echosystm: not really [12:48] echosystm: the restricted drivers manager is nice [12:48] i mean, i missed out on a lot of things because all iw as running was xfce4-core or whatever [12:49] echosystm: alternate cd installs exactly the smae system as the live cd [12:50] no it doesnt? [12:50] theres tonnes of stuff missing [12:50] if you use the xubuntu metapackage, yeah its the same [12:50] but, the xfce-core package is missing alot [12:51] ah, ok [12:51] xfce-core only installs the xfce desktop environment, skips all the applications and most system tools [12:52] ya [12:52] thats what i had [12:52] :) [12:52] so this xubuntu stuff is all new to me [12:52] pretty cool [12:54] :) [13:24] was xubuntu first created to run ubuntu on xbox? http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/XUbuntu [13:24] no [13:25] ok just checking [13:25] xubuntu was first created to run ubuntu with xfce rather than gnome [13:25] :P [13:25] ah I think they mentioned that in beginning of article nvm [13:25] hate wikis I always click the bright blue links and get thrown all over [13:25] lol [13:27] wiki+tabbed browser = out of memory [13:27] although I like calling it xUbuntu or xubby [13:27] TheSheep: *spams ctrl t* what I wasn't looking at pr0n! [13:28] * ronnie__ comp dies in background [13:28] I wonder how much memory that takes using blank tabs [13:29] ronnie__: firefox stores them as bitmaps anyways [13:29] ouch don't those take loads of mem? [13:30] ronnie__: ah, no, blank tabs don't have a rendering area [13:30] ronnie__: but tabs with blank pages in them would take memory [13:30] lets see on windows I can have like 250 calculator programs up... lets see how many xubuntu firefox tabs ^^ [13:31] aww he left [14:44] according to this I have two cpus but one is disabled http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46684/ [14:45] how do I go about fixing that problem? [14:51] somebody knows a magnifying dock for xubuntu? [14:52] except kiba-dock [14:52] FlashWolf: magnifying? [14:52] liked not it.... havent manifying effect [14:52] TheSheep: like rocketdock for windows [14:52] or kxdocker for kde [14:52] I don't know about windows, but you might try awn [14:53] it's work in progress though, but seems to work on gnome [14:53] awn == avant window manager? [14:53] yes [14:53] navigator [14:53] TheSheep: xfce [14:53] FlashWolf: for xfce you need patched xfwm [14:54] patched xfwm for what? [14:54] ronnie_: there is a bug related to window activation and workspace switching that makes it impossible to switch workspaces in xfwm when awn is enabled [14:55] ronnie_: it's a bug in awn but it was easier to patch in xfwm [14:55] ronnie_: basically, awn rises its window when you click it, which makes xfwm switch back to the original workspace [15:00] oh I only use 1 workspace so never saw that bug [15:02] TheSheep: hmm... awn is nice... [15:02] but... [15:02] how can i add _launchers_? [15:03] or is it really just "window navigator"? === htownandafk_work is now known as codenamekt_work [15:09] FlashWolf: drag and drop the .desktop files [15:09] FlashWolf: they are in /usr/share/applications [15:10] i'll try that [15:19] TheSheep: does this dock has magnifying effect? [15:19] or just bounce? [15:22] and the settings? [15:22] i click in the settings menu item but nothing appears... :( [15:23] FlashWolf: weird, there is a settings manager [15:23] FlashWolf: and yes, it has all sorts of effects, zooming included [15:26] lol [15:26] right click + preferences? [15:27] yes [15:27] ah... do i need the xfce patch? [15:29] I don't think so [15:29] FlashWolf: bear in mind that it's beta software (or even alpha) [15:30] it's truth... [15:30] FlashWolf: maybe something about your system-specific configuration makes it fail [15:30] TheSheep: arent u using xfce too? [15:30] FlashWolf: you can edit the config file in ~/.config/awn/awn.ini [15:30] FlashWolf: xfce is released, awn is beta [15:30] i'll try ini [15:31] FlashWolf: I think you want icon_effect=3 [15:31] oh, thx [15:31] i'll see [15:34] TheSheep: didnt worked... [15:34] could i view ur awn.ini? [15:35] <[CEI]Zeleznick> Hello, trying to install Xubuntu on an old IBM notebook, slight problem, my keyboard and mouse doesn't work :P [15:35] be right back [15:35] <[CEI]Zeleznick> is my project doomed from the start [15:36] hello peoples [15:38] [CEI]Zeleznick: if it's a thinkpad, you might find something on the thinkwiki [15:38] [CEI]Zeleznick: or on the ubuntu forums [15:38] [CEI]Zeleznick: just search for your model [15:39] <[CEI]Zeleznick> okay thanks [15:40] TheSheep: ok. i'm back. [15:40] could u send me the file? [15:40] :) [15:40] hmm got this desktop computer with EM61SM/EM61PM Acer motherboard and not sure what ram it supports but noticed I have 2 extra slots [15:41] FlashWolf: I can, but I think it's maybe for the desktop-agnostic version only, and the default version uses gconf to store configuration [15:41] TheSheep: cuz the my awn.ini is totally empty [15:42] i was expecting a list of properties and values... :P [15:42] FlashWolf: what exactly you doing with that awn? [15:42] ronnie_: just trying access its "Preferences" [15:42] FlashWolf: http://sheep.art.pl/Sandbox [15:43] FlashWolf: try settings->awn-manager [15:44] lol [15:45] i havent awn-manager [15:45] that explains it [15:45] install it [15:45] missed some installation? [15:45] already [15:45] lol [15:45] finally [15:45] :D [15:46] thx for attention, TheSheep :D [15:46] sorry for ur time wasting... [15:47] FlashWolf: got lots of time [15:47] well damn even I knew that and I don't use the app... [15:47] hm? [15:47] ronnie_: I didn't [15:47] might give sheeps config a try though [15:47] ronnie_: you should have said something earlier [15:48] TheSheep: rephrasing: sorry for wasting ur time [15:48] well I thought it was obvious and was too busy oggling new ram to buy [15:48] FlashWolf: rephrasing: no problem :) [15:48] or whatever that means xD [15:48] FlashWolf: if you install compiz it has a manager app too [15:48] ronnie_: yeah, but not to awn [15:50] anyway gonna get some sleep see you around later [15:53] and i'll lunch === FlashWolf is now known as FlashWolf|lunch [15:53] cya [15:54] hi all,... how do i change the console font on tty1 ??? === totalyourface is now known as total-luser [18:02] Why do i get kernel panic when i insert new ram? I have 3x128mb now and bought a 256mb... Bios passes 384, but in boot xubuntu gets kernel panic [18:03] RandyboY: try running memtest === FlashWolf|lunch is now known as FlashWolf [18:43] TheSheep, there is nothing wrong with the ram. It seems that xubuntu doesnt like it when it changes size on one of them... I tried pulling out so that the original 384 was in with the new 256mb bracket and one old 128... Still kernel panic [18:45] RandyboY: you tested with memtest? [18:47] TheSheep, didnt complete it... Is it supposed to take sxtremely long? [18:47] extremely [18:48] TheSheep, or is there any way to configure it so that xubuntu understand it and will not panic? [18:48] hello anyone here knows a good editor for some perl scripting ? [18:51] massctrl: vim [18:51] RandyboY: you don't configure it [18:51] hum, yeah I know, but the learning curve is a little too steep,.. [18:52] massctrl: a week and you're fluent [18:52] on kde there's something like kate, which is nice, .. [18:52] massctrl: scite [18:52] TheSheep, no i see that now. I put all the 128's in and doing a memtest... now its actually moving on the passed percent... === Ramla_ is now known as Ramla [20:45] is it possible to use the amd 64bit xubuntu on a 64 intel? [20:47] NathanExplosion: yeah. [20:47] download the 64bit version [20:47] excellent thank you flashwolf [20:47] np [21:12] FlashWolf? [21:32] hmm, how did you set compositing in xfce4 again? [21:38] I need help [21:38] with? [21:38] atm I'm running from xubuntu live cd [21:38] and and I need some way to install it [21:38] click on install icon on the desktop [21:39] did so [21:39] it runs through all the questions and what not [21:40] and then when it starts to "install" it seems like it's loading from cd and shows that the memory is being used but after about 10 min the percentage gauge still shows 0% and the cd stops running [21:40] and mouse is unable to move [21:41] aswell [21:41] is this a common problem and is there another way to install through this cd without graphcal install? [21:41] not with that cd [21:41] damn [21:41] you would have to download the alternate installer [21:42] I did [21:42] then run that [21:42] and it was too big for the cd [21:42] its text based [21:42] I couldn't burn it [21:42] that isnt possible if you are using a normal cd [21:42] thats what I thought [21:42] it's only 696 mb and the cd is 700 mb [21:42] the file isn't corrupt [21:43] soooo yeah [21:43] sounds like there is already stuff on the cd [21:43] is there some way to reduce the amount of things [21:43] you could kill X [21:43] running in the bg while the installer starts up? [21:43] x? [21:43] (new to linux based os) [21:44] the program that gives you a graphical interface [21:44] but i dont think that will work [21:44] through xfrce taskmanager? [21:44] cause the intaller needs it [21:44] ctrl+alt+backspace kills X [21:44] oh [21:44] yeah that won't work [21:44] note: backspace, not del [21:44] right [21:44] I tried that [21:45] and it throws me back to the boot disk [21:45] erm, or were you actually talking of installing X? [21:45] have you made sure its not a hardware issue? or a bad iso image? [21:45] cd is clean [21:45] * nanonyme runs away after noticing he didn't read the situation well enough [21:45] and the hardware is just the correct size [21:45] lol [21:46] yes but have you checked that it is all functional [21:46] should i be able to hit PrtSc to take a screenshot? [21:46] oh it's all functional [21:46] no problems whatsoever [21:46] slimjimflim: it doesnt work for me. i just added a screenshot button to the panel [21:46] 128 mb ram [21:46] there is problem number 1 [21:46] you need 192 to run the live cd [21:46] I know [21:47]