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| jjesse | test? | 00:47 |
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| jjesse | trying to figure out internet connection at hotel | 00:47 |
| yuriy | jjesse: 3 successful tests so far ;) | 00:48 |
| manchicken | Have you all seen gOS yet? | 06:51 |
| dragon76 | hardy alpha1 running well out of box on everex laptop | 07:56 |
| sebastian^ | good morning folks :) | 08:21 |
| mhb | sebastian^: hello | 08:25 |
| sebastian^ | hey mhb | 08:27 |
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| Tonio_ | hi | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: ping ? | 10:21 |
| fdoving | hi. | 10:21 |
| * Jucato waves around the room | 10:21 | |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: had time to work yesterday ? I will to do something today, so just to be sure to dupe efforts.... | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | hey Jucato | 10:21 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: no, busy most of yesterday, no time. | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: no pb ;) I'll try to do something today and will let you know | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: talking about the xauthority problems, I noticed that sudo allows to preserve an env variable | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: if XAUTHORITY is set, and we force sudo to preserve it, there is no need of a tweak with the -H option | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: is that acceptable doing this this way or not ? | 11:03 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I don't see the point playing with iceauthority vs xauthority, but I may miss something on that point | 11:05 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: they kind of do different things. imagine you have user1 trying to do 'kdesudo -u user2 konuqeror' - if you only preserv the environment-variable which basicailly is the path to /home/user1/.Xauthority - user2 would not be able to read that file and it would fail. | 11:12 |
| fdoving | it would work when kdesudoing to root, and it's the way it's currently done in gutsy iirc. | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | oki got it | 11:13 |
| fdoving | the -H is primarily for the $HOME variable. | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: switching to kprocess worked :) good point, now clean for the hacks done before | 11:14 |
| fdoving | let me know when you have pushed to bzr. | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I know concerning the -H, but when no env is set, X looks to $HOME/.Xauthority | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: that's why sudo konqueror when sudo -H konqueror doesn't | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: just export your Xauthority and that's it | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: sure I will | 11:14 |
| fdoving | exporting can work, if your .Xauthority got the right permissions. | 11:15 |
| fdoving | root can of course read everything, once you start using other users it becomes advanced. | 11:16 |
| fdoving | you can of course copy your .Xauthority to some magic place and/or give it less restrictive permissions. | 11:16 |
| fdoving | I've commented about it in the source somewhere. | 11:16 |
| fdoving | The same problem arise when making new xauth keys. | 11:16 |
| fdoving | but they timeout after some set time. | 11:16 |
| fdoving | which is a good thing imo. | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: can you remind me of a simple example of a problem kshellprocess might create ? | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: last time you gave me an example, but I can't seem to remember in fact ;) | 11:26 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: it needs properly escaped input. it's easy to trick it into executing things by naming files/directories for example. | 11:27 |
| fdoving | the problem is that everything is executed with the help from /bin/sh | 11:27 |
| fdoving | with kprocess it's not. | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yep, but even with kprocess I can reproduce the issue if I don't quote all args.... | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: tricky isn't it ? | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | opening as root "konqueror:konqueror" starts konqueror as root, then as user | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | s/:/; | 11:29 |
| fdoving | you didn't set 'setUseShell' did you ? | 11:29 |
| fdoving | it needs to be false. | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: nope I didn't, isn't false the default ? | 11:30 |
| fdoving | should be. | 11:31 |
| fdoving | what if you use KProcess:quote() ? | 11:33 |
| fdoving | i need to go, back in ~30min, driving to a different house. | 11:34 |
| Tonio_ | oki ;) | 11:34 |
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| Krasu | apachelogger__ : hi | 11:52 |
| * Riddell throws bug 173882 at apachelogger__ | 11:57 | |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173882 in kopete-plugin-thinklight "changelog error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173882 | 11:58 |
| * Hobbsee throws all but that bug at Riddell | 11:58 | |
| sebastian^ | ^^ | 12:00 |
| * Riddell starts swimming | 12:00 | |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: fix them, isntead of swimming through the | 12:01 |
| Hobbsee | m | 12:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: dood, this kpar2 isn't going to stick | 12:06 |
| Riddell | what have archive admin said to you before? | 12:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: nothing | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: got removed once by Hobbsee since I uploaded by error on ubuntu instead of revu | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: now it is reviewed, archived and uploaded to ubuntu | 12:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dunno what the problem is.... | 12:10 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it's GPL 3 | 12:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: lemme look | 12:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: COPYING mentions gpl v2 | 12:13 |
| Riddell | all the source files are GPL 3 | 12:13 |
| Tonio_ | hum, true :/ | 12:14 |
| Tonio_ | okay I'll have to see that with upstream then :/ | 12:14 |
| Riddell | thanks | 12:17 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sorry for missing that..... stupid copying file.... | 12:24 |
| mhb | good afternoon, what's up? | 12:42 |
| Hobbsee | the sky | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | or the ground, if you're on your head | 12:43 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee dancing in and out | 12:43 |
| Jucato | or the walls, if you're lying down... | 12:43 |
| Jucato | I think | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | X borkage | 12:43 |
| Jucato | awts | 12:44 |
| Jucato | er..I meant ouch | 12:44 |
| mhb | well, better back to school | 12:44 |
| mhb | not much fun here :o) | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: little problem here, you told me not to use a shell process, and connect to a pty | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | but usepty sets shellprocess to true... that's the problem :) | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: http://www.mcs.vuw.ac.nz/technical/software/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/kprocess_8cpp-source.html | 12:46 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: look line 100 | 12:47 |
| Riddell | so, I need a final session for kubuntu tutorial day | 12:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: fancy doing the second packaging tutorial? | 12:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: may not have time today but why not yes | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when is it ? | 12:52 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: thu 13th, 18:00utc | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I will be in toulouse for work | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: unsure to have internet connexion :'( | 12:53 |
| Riddell | ooh la la | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | et oui :/ | 12:54 |
| Riddell | maybe mhb could take it on | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: lemme look at the calendar | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, I'll be in the middle of a class session arround samba.... | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hard to do kubuntu at the same time :) | 12:55 |
| Riddell | class session? | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | euh...... | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | isn't that correct in english ? | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | I'm giving a samba session for 10 users | 12:57 |
| Riddell | it is, I just didn't know your work included that kind of thing | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | "class" was bad french translation sorry :) | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep it does | 12:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as well as giving interviews to recruit new people and so on | 12:58 |
| apachelogger__ | meh | 12:58 |
| Riddell | or maybe we should have a general getting your work into Kubuntu, intro to PPA, revu, MOTU etc | 12:59 |
| apachelogger__ | Riddell: bug 173882 is all jpatrick's fault :P | 13:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173882 in kopete-plugin-thinklight "changelog error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173882 | 13:01 |
| Riddell | apachelogger__: well he's not around to throw it at :) | 13:01 |
| * apachelogger__ is wondering what that line isn't parsable after all | 13:01 | |
| fdoving | Tonio_: interessting. tried without a pty then? | 13:02 |
| apachelogger__ | omm | 13:04 |
| apachelogger__ | I am out of disk spaces -.- | 13:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: works | 13:04 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: great, works as we want it to? | 13:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: btw, as long as everything is quoted (I used kprocess:quote), a shellprocess might not be that a big problem | 13:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I have the feeling that a shellprocess is used in fact | 13:05 |
| fdoving | in theory it is evil even if you quote. | 13:05 |
| fdoving | for such a program. | 13:05 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the problem I have is that I can't seem to read the "passprompt" required to push the password | 13:06 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: sudo needs shell on that point | 13:06 |
| fdoving | yep. | 13:06 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: fo the moment I'll keep the pty thing, whatever it sets, and will do the quoting correctly, then make hudge tests, and we can rediscuss this later | 13:07 |
| Tonio_ | also I'll have a look at how does gksu work | 13:07 |
| fdoving | ok. | 13:07 |
| fdoving | does the usePty make it appear as it should in /var/run/sudo/$user ? | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the problem is I think that sudo interacts with the user, and for that a shell process is needed | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: there's no way to use a cmdline option to push the password, that's my concern | 13:08 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: stop me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is an easy solution on that point | 13:09 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: concerning the pty I'll test and will let you know | 13:09 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: also, always using the same pty would help in making the -k option to work right ? | 13:09 |
| fdoving | no idea. but it might help :) | 13:10 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: also what is the kdesu -t option ? | 13:12 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: looks that this is the one missing that causes problems with kdevelop and so on right ? | 13:12 |
| fdoving | yep. | 13:12 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: hard to implement ? | 13:13 |
| fdoving | don't know. | 13:13 |
| fdoving | but looking at kdesu it's not that simple. | 13:13 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: fix uploaded | 13:16 |
| Riddell | thanks apachelogger | 13:19 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: how do you do nbs? | 13:25 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: fix the packages so that nothing depends on the packages in the nbs list | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | each nbs package shows the packages which depend on it, so you can fix them | 13:26 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: where's the list again? | 13:30 |
| Hobbsee | p.u.c/~u-a/NBS | 13:30 |
| Riddell | ah hah | 13:31 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm pretty happy with kdesudo right now | 14:03 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the only problem is that parsing -c option and all args correctly results an horrible command with the quotes | 14:03 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm not sure we want to show the command to the user.... | 14:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: btw gksu doesn't | 14:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: have any opinion on that point ? | 14:04 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I think the solution would be a "details" clickable button for those who want to check out the command | 14:05 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what's the question? | 14:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: do we want to always show the command to the user with kdesudo | 14:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: some commands are pretty ugly, like the dolphin's "run as root " | 14:06 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I've always thought it a horrible security risk not to, but as you say gksudo doesn't and it's pretty ugly at times | 14:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I suggest to put a "details" button with the command in it | 14:06 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: maybe you should ask kees for a justification for it to be hidden | 14:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well the comprimise idea doesn't comprimise security, but doesn't show the command for all users everytime, I'd say | 14:07 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, seems sensible | 14:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: most kdesudo problems will be fixed toonight, thanks for fdoving's suggestions for the code | 14:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: next will be finishing kio-apt | 14:08 |
| * Riddell hugs Tonio_ | 14:10 | |
| rexbron | hey everyone, I have some updated info on bug 173770. Would someone be able to take a look? | 14:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173770 in kdelibs "kdelibs-data is un-uninstallable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173770 | 14:17 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: how is it ugly? - very quoted? | 14:17 |
| Riddell | rexbron: gutsy or hardy? | 14:18 |
| rexbron | Riddell: Hardy | 14:18 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: i don't mind hiding the command. i belive gksu got this option to enable showing it. probably gconf-key thing. | 14:18 |
| rexbron | is there #kubuntu+1? | 14:18 |
| rexbron | lol, guess not | 14:19 |
| Hobbsee | rexbron: there is, adn we dont use it | 14:20 |
| rexbron | Riddell: I should also mention that it is kdelibs in Ubuntu | 14:20 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: every component of the command is quoted | 14:22 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: like: "some" "magic" "command" ? | 14:22 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 14:22 |
| Tonio_ | hard to read for the user | 14:22 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'll try to "pseudo hide" it, with a details button or something | 14:23 |
| Riddell | rexbron: just installed and removed kdelibs-data in a chroot, no problems at all | 14:25 |
| rexbron | wow weird | 14:25 |
| Riddell | I'm entirely out of ideas what could cause your problem | 14:26 |
| rexbron | I don't know what to do other than a reinstall | 14:26 |
| rexbron | as apt it completely borked | 14:26 |
| Riddell | mkdir /usr/share/icons/crystalsvg then apt-get remove? | 14:26 |
| rexbron | Apt tried to remove that package first, and since it fails, refuses to do anything else | 14:26 |
| rexbron | i'll give that a try | 14:26 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: hmm.. does kdesu quote like that? - or gksu? | 14:27 |
| rexbron | Riddell: <3 :D | 14:27 |
| Riddell | rexbron: the problem is the script /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdelibs-data.postrm | 14:27 |
| Riddell | so maybe it's an issue with update-icon-caches in hardy | 14:27 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: gksu tells you: The application 'bah' lets you modify essential parts of your system. | 14:28 |
| rexbron | Riddell: if that last message did not convey my meaning properly, it worked, thanks a lot | 14:28 |
| Riddell | rexbron: ah hah, I recreated it | 14:29 |
| Riddell | I wonder where that update-icon-caches script came from | 14:29 |
| Riddell | the kdelibs one | 14:29 |
| Riddell | rexbron: if I have gtk installed that brings in update-icon-caches and the problem appears | 14:29 |
| Riddell | so iz gtk bug :) | 14:29 |
| rexbron | time to reassign :P | 14:30 |
| Riddell | well maybe the kdelibs script is just not using it correctly | 14:30 |
| Riddell | hmm, no, that postinst is automatically created | 14:31 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: we already put the application name to the user, and the command | 14:31 |
| Tonio_ | that, I'd like to get rid of in fact | 14:31 |
| fdoving | pushed anything to bzr yet? | 14:32 |
| claydoh | http://tinyurl.com/2fbk9s kde-look poll :) | 14:42 |
| claydoh | tho opensuse is catching up.... | 14:42 |
| Jucato | (broken link?) | 14:42 |
| Jucato | oh nvm | 14:42 |
| Riddell | well it's on kde-look.org | 14:44 |
| Krasu | apachelogger: ping | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | Krasu: hi | 14:53 |
| Krasu | well? | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | Krasu: sorry, didn't have time to look at the tarball yet | 14:53 |
| * apachelogger tells amarok peeps to wait ;-) | 14:53 | |
| Krasu | ok... | 14:53 |
| Krasu | I just wanted to know | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | Krasu: well, the tarball should be ok if you fixed everything I mentioned | 14:54 |
| Krasu | apachelogger: I just want be sure that incoming 0.8.0 (not 0.7.6 :) ) will be added to KUbuntu withou problems. Ok, let me know when you test tarball, ok? | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | yep | 14:55 |
| * apachelogger notes that his konqueror is lagging like hell -.- | 14:56 | |
| Riddell | hi mzungu | 14:58 |
| mzungu | hi Riddell | 14:58 |
| Riddell | mzungu: am I right in thinking your nick is Swahili for "white person"? | 14:59 |
| mzungu | lol - yes | 14:59 |
| Riddell | excellent, I have now doubled my Swahili vocabulary | 15:00 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 15:00 |
| mzungu | ...and (if you check the wili, or launchpad) you'll see it's really my name ;) | 15:00 |
| mzungu | s/wili/wiki/ | 15:00 |
| mzungu | and it's what guys in the street call out ;) | 15:01 |
| Riddell | "Tony White" it all fits together now | 15:01 |
| mzungu | :D | 15:02 |
| mzungu | here's two more - hakuna matata | 15:03 |
| mzungu | (np) | 15:03 |
| Jucato | Timon and Pumbaa? | 15:03 |
| Riddell | does it really mean "no worries"? | 15:03 |
| mzungu | yup | 15:03 |
| Jucato | :D | 15:03 |
| Riddell | disney is so educational | 15:03 |
| mzungu | but more for the tourists | 15:03 |
| Jucato | hahah ) | 15:03 |
| mzungu | we usually say - hakuna tabu | 15:04 |
| mzungu | walt has a LOT to answer for! | 15:04 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: looks like mplayer failed miserably | 15:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: needs rebuilt against new x264-54 package | 15:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: should work afterwards | 15:07 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: he did that, it failed to compile in a nasty way | 15:07 |
| === milian_ is now known as milian | ||
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah.... | 15:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just gotten the -k option to work with kdesudo, hehe :) | 15:29 |
| Tonio_ | now kdesu -s will work as expected | 15:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what does that do? | 15:29 |
| Tonio_ | forget passwords | 15:29 |
| Tonio_ | kdesu -s = sudo -k | 15:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I remember you tried that one out, but it didn't work | 15:29 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: connect to pty makes it to work as expected | 15:30 |
| Tonio_ | as well as using the user name in /var/run/sudo | 15:30 |
| dragon76 | hey everyone | 15:30 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'll commit today, so that you can review the changes | 15:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: you got it to connect to a pty? | 15:31 |
| Riddell | hi dragon76 | 15:31 |
| dragon76 | has anyone else had trouble getting kdm to start using 2.6.24 in hardy? | 15:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well just kprocess::setusepty seems to work | 15:32 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: doesn't it set a different pty for every use? | 15:32 |
| Tonio_ | nope | 15:32 |
| Tonio_ | well I didn't look | 15:32 |
| Riddell | hrm, I'm sure it did when I tried | 15:32 |
| Riddell | run kdesu twice and see if it remembers the password | 15:32 |
| Tonio_ | it always sets the same pty from the same pty :) | 15:33 |
| Tonio_ | means used with command line | 15:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would be interesting to test with desktop files, let me check | 15:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that works | 15:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what is interesting is if once launched via desktop file I can empty the password cache using kdesu from the shell | 15:36 |
| Tonio_ | if tat works it'd be perfect | 15:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: works as expected | 15:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: password is remembered as long as you run kdesu -s | 15:38 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 15:38 |
| Tonio_ | hehe, don't ask me how I did, c++ is still a mystery for me, but as long as it works... ^_^ | 15:39 |
| dragon76 | has anyone tested 2.6.24 kernel in hardy??? | 15:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we may have to consider a security update for gutsy once tested | 15:39 |
| Riddell | dragon76: can't say I have actually | 15:40 |
| dragon76 | kdm doesn't want to start... I don't need it but just wanting to help out developement with testing | 15:41 |
| dragon76 | 2.6.22-14 is ok | 15:41 |
| bddebian | Heya | 15:45 |
| Riddell | dragon76: kdm or X? | 15:45 |
| dragon76 | hello bddebian | 15:45 |
| bddebian | Hello dragon76 | 15:45 |
| dragon76 | hmmm.... can't say I remember... that was 3 this morning.... don't I feel stupid | 15:46 |
| dragon76 | would I look in /var/log/messages for any pertinant info? | 15:47 |
| dragon76 | I'll go poke around a bit and come back and report. Have to reboot into the other kernel... Anything I should check that would help out? | 15:48 |
| Riddell | dragon76: just try starting X on its own | 15:50 |
| dragon76 | will do... | 15:51 |
| nixternal | oi oi | 16:11 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I may ditch on Thursday, actually more than likely I will, so I can do some talking if needed | 16:12 |
| Riddell | nixternal: eek, don't skip class on our account | 16:20 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: moin | 16:24 |
| nixternal | Riddell: only for you :) | 16:26 |
| Riddell | nixternal: there's a Q&A session at 1900utc | 16:29 |
| nixternal | groovy | 16:40 |
| Riddell | ta da https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | 16:56 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: we should also make a manpage for kdesudo, bug 162823 can be confusing. | 16:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 162823 in kdesudo "wrong manpage for kdesu is shown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162823 | 16:56 |
| fdoving | and the diverting should also include the manpage. | 16:57 |
| fdoving | if that approach is still valid. | 16:57 |
| nixternal | so no documentation then I take it | 16:58 |
| Jucato | "branch your svn with bzr"? :D | 16:59 |
| Jucato | hi DaSkreech | 16:59 |
| Riddell | Jucato: I'm hoping I can work out how before next week | 16:59 |
| DaSkreech | Then dump it all in git :) | 16:59 |
| Jucato | lol | 16:59 |
| nixternal | Riddell: that stuff is next week? hahaha, I thought it was this week :) | 16:59 |
| nixternal | damn, I might not be able to ditch, that is finals | 17:00 |
| nixternal | but I can probably make time | 17:00 |
| nixternal | Final Evaluations/Culminating Activities: Dec. 13 to 19 | 17:01 |
| Riddell | nixternal: sorry, it's next week indeed | 17:01 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I might be able to make it then especially if we do our finals for this class the following week | 17:01 |
| nixternal | we should be good to go then | 17:01 |
| Riddell | nixternal: well if you can't no problem, I can do it | 17:01 |
| nixternal | man, I have a lot of project work I gotta finish up | 17:01 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: there is a manpage | 17:13 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: but we should also divert the kdesu manpage | 17:13 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm just reading at all the little bugs and fix them | 17:13 |
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| mhb | good evening to all good folks out here | 17:44 |
| * DaSkreech waves | 17:44 | |
| * Jucato waves goodnight | 17:44 | |
| mhb | why are we doing this on Thursday? | 17:45 |
| mhb | tutorial day, that is | 17:45 |
| Jucato | lol!! I was wondering why Dec 13 was tuesday on my calendar :) | 17:46 |
| * Jucato was looking at november... | 17:46 | |
| mhb | that is our Jucato | 17:47 |
| Jucato | :) | 17:47 |
| Jucato | bye :) | 17:47 |
| mhb | umm... | 17:48 |
| Jucato | Wed Dec 5 01:48:10 PHT 2007 | 17:48 |
| Jucato | that cries "bed" :D | 17:48 |
| mhb | have I missed a new person in our midst? | 17:48 |
| nosrednaekim | c ya Jucato | 17:49 |
| nosrednaekim | who's that? | 17:49 |
| Riddell | mhb: the day was picked by Jono, seems as good as any | 17:49 |
| mhb | txwikinger | 17:49 |
| mhb | Riddell: not sure who we are aiming at, but audiences under 60 usually have their days filled with doing stuff | 17:49 |
| mhb | workdays | 17:50 |
| Riddell | people often have weekend filled too | 17:50 |
| mhb | oh sure, we cannot find a date for everyone, but my unproved theory states that statistically, people have more time on weekends | 17:51 |
| mhb | that is why we wanted meetings take place at weekends, because people have time | 17:52 |
| mhb | usually | 17:53 |
| mhb | meh, why do I care? | 17:53 |
| mhb | I wish you luck. | 17:53 |
| Riddell | you care because you're an elite kubuntu developer? | 17:54 |
| DaSkreech | nigh Jucato | 17:54 |
| mhb | Riddell: you are right, I better get back to work to earn that title :o) | 17:56 |
| mhb | Riddell: is d3lphin's source code actively put somewhere? | 18:06 |
| mhb | or should I fork it? | 18:06 |
| mhb | from apt-get source | 18:06 |
| mhb | hmm, forking it, I guess | 18:08 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: fixing dolphin? cool | 18:08 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: someone has to do it | 18:09 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: fixing the KDE3 one | 18:11 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 18:12 |
| nosrednaekim | you know c++? | 18:12 |
| coreymon77 | me? | 18:12 |
| coreymon77 | no | 18:12 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: I know everything :o) | 18:12 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: well, I know everything except for the thing that I know everything | 18:13 |
| nosrednaekim | hehe.... | 18:13 |
| coreymon77 | mhb: huh? | 18:13 |
| mhb | the day is never complete without a strange loop | 18:13 |
| coreymon77 | mhb: you mean you know everything except for what you dont know? | 18:14 |
| coreymon77 | cause in that case | 18:14 |
| coreymon77 | i know everything too | 18:14 |
| coreymon77 | :P | 18:14 |
| mhb | Imagine you are a person with just one year to live, and yet the ones you love really care about you and try to make you shine in your last days... | 18:19 |
| mhb | Then you know how my branch of D3lphin must feel | 18:20 |
| nosrednaekim | hehe | 18:20 |
| nosrednaekim | hey.... the kde4 dolphin is amazing.. | 18:20 |
| nosrednaekim | if you can make the KDE3 one as good.. | 18:20 |
| nosrednaekim | its'll be ayear well spent | 18:21 |
| nosrednaekim | *it'll be a year | 18:21 |
| DaSkreech | for the year it will be used :) | 18:21 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: indeed, having a brother that will take all the glory while you rot on the scrapyard must be a bit depressing thought | 18:21 |
| nosrednaekim | hehe | 18:21 |
| mhb | on the other hand, I'm going to rot there too, in time | 18:22 |
| mhb | so let's get to work while I still can | 18:22 |
| coreymon77 | d3lphin has quite a few bugs | 18:23 |
| coreymon77 | im just hoping that the kde4 one will be better | 18:24 |
| coreymon77 | gtg now | 18:24 |
| fdoving | mhb: are you putting the dolphin source in bzr on kubuntu-members or something like that ? | 18:30 |
| mhb | fdoving: you know me well | 18:31 |
| mhb | fdoving: let me just apply the debian patches to the code itself | 18:31 |
| mhb | and review them | 18:31 |
| mhb | then I'll put the code there | 18:31 |
| fdoving | great. | 18:31 |
| mhb | fdoving: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/dolphin/hardy-fork will be the address | 18:32 |
| fdoving | nice, i'll fetch it when you've pushed. | 18:32 |
| Riddell | mhb: I don't think it's in revision control anywhere | 18:32 |
| mhb | Riddell: right, I'm putting it in LP | 18:33 |
| Riddell | mhb: good plan | 18:37 |
| mhb | pushed, should be available soonish | 18:44 |
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| fdoving | mhb: will you push the debian directory too, to it's own place? | 18:53 |
| mhb | fdoving: I'll put it there, not sure if it'll work tho | 19:00 |
| mhb | I've branched the upstream package, not our debian one | 19:00 |
| fdoving | ok. but that doesn't matter, if we push our debian directory, maybe removing the patches, the result should be the same. | 19:01 |
| mhb | fdoving: pushed | 19:05 |
| fdoving | mhb: ah, you put it there. i was thinking about having a separate branch for the debian/ directory, like the other kde packages we have in bzr. | 19:07 |
| mhb | fdoving: do as you think | 19:12 |
| mhb | I'm fine with it | 19:12 |
| Riddell | I don't see any advantage in that | 19:13 |
| fdoving | well, now we will include everything in the orig.tar.gz, and make a native-package. | 19:14 |
| fdoving | if we convert to our lp as upstream. | 19:14 |
| Riddell | since we are upstream a native package would be fine | 19:15 |
| fdoving | ok. then it's fine. | 19:16 |
| mhb | let's fix bugs! :-) | 19:28 |
| Riddell | awooga! | 19:28 |
| mhb | especially Riddell | 19:30 |
| Nightrose | you wanna fix Riddell? :P | 19:31 |
| Riddell | mostly I create the bugs :) | 19:31 |
| mhb | yeah, he should fix more bugs than he does now | 19:36 |
| mhb | yay! | 19:49 |
| mhb | there are first tweaks in our D3lphin branch! | 19:49 |
| mhb | if you don't want to get me all pessimistic, better start fixing bugs in it, too! | 19:50 |
| mhb | :o) | 19:50 |
| mhb | especially people that promised such stuff at the meeting | 19:50 |
| fdoving | ah, you removed the adjust view properties dialog. | 19:54 |
| mhb | yeah, call me a fascist | 19:55 |
| fdoving | i was looking int o that crash, but i can't get a proper backtrace.. for some stupid reason. | 19:55 |
| fdoving | can't really see any good reason to keep it either, go for it. | 19:55 |
| mhb | I think you could bypass the crash by configuring it via the Configure Dolphin dialog | 19:56 |
| mhb | and I see no reason why the rest of the controls should stay elsewhere, so I removed it... I'll move the missing features into Configure soon | 19:56 |
| fdoving | ok, but it doesn't crash when doing the same things in configure? | 19:56 |
| mhb | AFAIK no | 19:57 |
| mhb | also, there's this beautiful desktop-effects-kde app I don't have time for... | 20:00 |
| mhb | :o) | 20:00 |
| mhb | come on, is the lack of volunteers really that big? | 20:00 |
| mhb | :o) | 20:01 |
| * mhb shuts up | 20:01 | |
| fdoving | they all do packages, no c++ :) | 20:01 |
| fdoving | packages, docs, irc-support and other very important things. | 20:01 |
| fdoving | few becomes upstream for broken apps :) | 20:01 |
| fdoving | btw. i like the description for the dolphin project. | 20:02 |
| mhb | fdoving: thanks! | 20:04 |
| fdoving | mhb: as you're the project manager, give me a bug to fix plz. | 20:05 |
| mhb | bug 138274? | 20:08 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 138274 in dolphin "Dolphin does not remember view profile" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138274 | 20:08 |
| mhb | not really associated with a crash, so you don't have to debug much | 20:09 |
| fdoving | mhb: i can't even reproduce that bug. | 20:13 |
| fdoving | one has to tick the configure dolphin -> save view properties for each folder' | 20:14 |
| fdoving | after that it works for me. | 20:14 |
| fdoving | if you can confirm that, i'll close the bugreport | 20:14 |
| fdoving | I came to think of one thing. | 20:14 |
| fdoving | the issue -can- be that the users we're running dolphin as root with an old kdesudo and that setting set. | 20:15 |
| fdoving | then the root-dolphin would write its .dolphinview files to every folder, wouldn't it? | 20:15 |
| fdoving | that would be evil. | 20:15 |
| fdoving | we should force that setting to off, for root. | 20:15 |
| mhb | fdoving: I guess what the user meant is: when I select the view mode, I want to be able to view all folders with that mode, and also, I'd like that mode to be default on next startup | 20:17 |
| fdoving | select where? | 20:18 |
| mhb | without .dolphinviews everywhere | 20:18 |
| mhb | clicking on its icon, I guess | 20:18 |
| mhb | I don't think there should be a "default view mode" | 20:18 |
| fdoving | that would defeat the purpose of the settings. | 20:18 |
| mhb | it's not really intuitive | 20:18 |
| mhb | the one you currently have should be default until you select another one | 20:19 |
| mhb | unless and only unless you have toyed with the .dolphinview files | 20:19 |
| fdoving | hmm.. don't you want it to remember that you always want previews in your pictures folder? | 20:19 |
| fdoving | where does the .dolphinview files come from then? | 20:19 |
| mhb | fdoving: sure, that might be handy, but otherwise there should be no other default view mode | 20:20 |
| mhb | unless you ticked that box, your viewer should just remember the last view mode | 20:21 |
| fdoving | currently you set one default, for directories without the .dolphinview file, let's say the default is Preview, then once you enter a folder and hit the Icons button, it creates a .dolphinview file for that current folder and remembers that folders settings. | 20:21 |
| mhb | fdoving: right. | 20:21 |
| mhb | fdoving: I guess I'd remove the "default" one and instead remember what the last one I used was | 20:22 |
| mhb | so when I click preview, just stick to preview unless you enter a folder with a .dolphinview | 20:22 |
| fdoving | i do not agree. | 20:22 |
| mhb | and next time I launch d3lphin, open preview (unless I'm in a .dolphinview folder again) | 20:22 |
| mhb | fdoving: my user case: I want to see details, look around the UI, find the "Details" button, click it, click on a folder and I'm frustrated that it shows up with Icons | 20:23 |
| fdoving | then click details again :) | 20:24 |
| fdoving | it's easy, you just need to think on a folder-oriented way :) | 20:24 |
| fdoving | on/in | 20:24 |
| mhb | well, I like to see details unless I choose "Previews" again | 20:24 |
| mhb | so it's me-oriented | 20:24 |
| mhb | I don't think anyone else is using it now, though :o) | 20:25 |
| fdoving | think about it as tags for eatch directory. | 20:25 |
| mhb | every day I hear "apt-get uninstall dolphin" in here | 20:25 |
| mhb | well, I guess that's not the right bug for you | 20:27 |
| mhb | choose yourself, there's plenty where that one came from | 20:28 |
| mhb | and all fixes are welcome | 20:28 |
| fdoving | mhb: #152788 looks very evil. | 20:39 |
| mhb | bug 152788 | 20:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 152788 in dolphin "Dolphin drag and drop targets wrong directory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152788 | 20:40 |
| mhb | fdoving: if you can reproduce it, go for it | 20:41 |
| mhb | I haven't looked at it yet, but I guess I should | 20:41 |
| fdoving | i can reproduce it, i'll look into it. | 20:42 |
| Riddell | kubuntu-users really has gone mad https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-December/023247.html | 20:51 |
| mhb | you should convince the last sane folks to join development | 20:55 |
| mhb | or perhaps the least sane ones? | 20:56 |
| mhb | fixing bugs in software that has no future and is hated by all... | 20:56 |
| mhb | work for a nutjob alright | 20:56 |
| fdoving | i'm starting to see why the dolphin guys dropped dolphin3, and focused on dolphin4. | 20:58 |
| mhb | fdoving: marketing? | 20:59 |
| mhb | :o) | 20:59 |
| fdoving | it's basically nothing left from dolphin3 in dolphin4. | 20:59 |
| mhb | I've seen worse. | 21:01 |
| Riddell | apachelogger_: do you know if libcaptury, captury and capseo in debian are newer than ours? | 21:02 |
| mhb | sometimes I get the feeling that UI was never meant to be written in hand | 21:25 |
| mhb | any application not using default widgets get to be really big | 21:26 |
| jhutchins_lt | Is there a program like kickstart for kubuntu that lets you template an install on one machine then clone it to others? | 21:47 |
| txwikinger | mhb? | 22:09 |
| nosrednaekim | hey txwikinger.... | 22:09 |
| txwikinger | hi nosrednaekim | 22:09 |
| Riddell | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3125 tutorials day announced | 22:09 |
| nosrednaekim | txwikinger: he's probably asleep,its late over in chekslovakia | 22:09 |
| mhb | hey txwikinger | 22:10 |
| txwikinger | hi mhb | 22:10 |
| * nosrednaekim hides... | 22:10 | |
| txwikinger | sorry... had to hold a lecture earlier.. just came back | 22:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: little kde question | 22:11 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: oh sure, my country is post-communist, but what is yours? :o) | 22:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: how to make that you have to wait for a kmessagebox to be closed so that the program continues ? | 22:11 |
| nosrednaekim | mhb: pre dictatorship.... | 22:11 |
| txwikinger | mhb communism comes in many forms ;) | 22:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: only seems to work with questions asking boxes right ? | 22:11 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I need to do that with a KMessageBox::Error for example... | 22:12 |
| txwikinger | nosrednaekim: which country are you from/residing? | 22:12 |
| nosrednaekim | txwikinger: USA <_< | 22:12 |
| txwikinger | hey.. nice to meet you.. I lived in Texas for a long time | 22:13 |
| txwikinger | mhb: Did you want something particular when you pinged me? | 22:13 |
| mhb | txwikinger: sure, to meet you | 22:13 |
| mhb | txwikinger: not sure we've met | 22:13 |
| txwikinger | I am not sure either.. nice to meet you mhb | 22:14 |
| * nosrednaekim claps | 22:14 | |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: maybe you can help me on that point :) | 22:14 |
| txwikinger | I have been in Slovakia before... Bratislava | 22:15 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: last little bug in kdesudo to fix before commiting so I'd like that fixed today... | 22:15 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: its needs to be modal | 22:15 |
| * txwikinger remembers a kdesudo bug he is trying to reproduce | 22:16 | |
| txwikinger | Tonio_ do you have a bug number? | 22:16 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: nope ;) | 22:17 |
| txwikinger | ok :) | 22:17 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: what bug is that about ? | 22:17 |
| txwikinger | kdesudo give an error message that it can execute the command | 22:17 |
| txwikinger | I think it is on hardy, I could not reproduce on gutsy | 22:17 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: not what I need in fact cause I need people to click ok before the program exists | 22:18 |
| txwikinger | I checked the installation on a chroot which worked fine | 22:18 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: here it is modal because of parent window, which closes, and then I don't have time to see the box, there is my issue | 22:18 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: fixed here | 22:18 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: I rewrote all that part today | 22:19 |
| imbrandon | Tonio_: make it 0 iirc | 22:19 |
| imbrandon | Parameters: | 22:19 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: so non-modal then ? ;) | 22:19 |
| imbrandon | parentIf parent is 0, then the message box becomes an application-global modal dialog box. If parent is a widget, the message box becomes modal relative to parent. | 22:19 |
| Tonio_ | ahhhhhhhhhh true that ! | 22:19 |
| mhb | txwikinger: how long do you hang around here? | 22:19 |
| mhb | txwikinger: and what are your plans for Hardy? | 22:19 |
| txwikinger | Tonio_: ok.. I will note that on the bug, could you ping me when the fix is available, that I can ask the reporter to check it out | 22:20 |
| * mhb is here for quite some time, and I can be quite active/stubborn when I want ... school's tough, though. | 22:20 | |
| txwikinger | mhb: Slovakia? I was in Bratislava, I believe 1994 | 22:21 |
| txwikinger | Did a job for the Telecom there.. Commencement of operation for one of their first long distance fibre routes | 22:21 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: you can test in 2 minutes | 22:22 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: btw the launchpad bug will be closed automatically when I upload | 22:22 |
| txwikinger | well, if it is referenced, right? | 22:22 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: talking about switching to admin mode in kcontrol module maybe no ? | 22:22 |
| txwikinger | I have to get my HD in my test-desktop changed first.. Probably do that tomorrow evening | 22:23 |
| txwikinger | yes... Tonio_ I think that's it | 22:23 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: that's the part I fixed today, works like a charm here | 22:24 |
| txwikinger | cool.. good work \o/ | 22:24 |
| mhb | txwikinger: I'm from Czech Republic, to be exact | 22:24 |
| txwikinger | Well.. I am almost too mhb ;) | 22:24 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: bug 172749 and bug 173319 | 22:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 172749 in kdesudo "Error kdesudo command not found when installing deb packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172749 | 22:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173319 in kdesudo "kdesudo seems to be broken in system setting in hardy" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173319 | 22:25 |
| txwikinger | Tonio_: Yes I menat 173319.. cool | 22:26 |
| txwikinger | mhb: My grandparents lived in East-Germany near the border to the Czech Republik and Poland | 22:27 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: next upload will close bugs 172749, 173319, 132456, 162823, 148255 and 157043 | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 172749 in kdesudo "Error kdesudo command not found when installing deb packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172749 | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 173319 in kdesudo "kdesudo seems to be broken in system setting in hardy" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173319 | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132456 in kdesudo "User account 'remembers' admin password" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132456 | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 162823 in kdesudo "wrong manpage for kdesu is shown" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162823 | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 148255 in kdesudo "kdesudo does not clear password field on incorrect password" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148255 | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | txwikinger: I had hard time today :/ | 22:28 |
| txwikinger | sorry to hear that.. why? | 22:28 |
| nosrednaekim | !helpersnack | Tonio_ | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Tonio_: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 22:28 |
| fdoving | great work tonio_ :) | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: thanks :) | 22:28 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: wait for the tests to say well done :) | 22:29 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: is it pushed? | 22:29 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: not yet, but I can sent you a debfile to test | 22:30 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: also the kdesu -s is now supported, using sudo -k in the first place, to remove the cached password | 22:30 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: that was a big problem we had with it | 22:30 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: just needs -t now for "almose" kdesu compatibility | 22:31 |
| fdoving | yep. | 22:31 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I also consider playing with "nice" to make -d a non fake password | 22:31 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: shouldn't be hard to make that to work as expected | 22:31 |
| Tonio_ | s/fake password/fake option | 22:31 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: but that's optional, probably for version 2.0 :) | 22:31 |
| fdoving | yep. | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | imbrandon: doesn't work either, this or 0 all give the same problem, program goes, exists and closes the popup | 22:33 |
| fdoving | ping me if you push within the next 30min or so. | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: have an idea on that point ? | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I have a testing package | 22:33 |
| fdoving | i want the source :) | 22:33 |
| fdoving | from bzr as i have that setup already :) | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: my only last bug is that when you type 3 bad passwords, you don't see the last window.... | 22:33 |
| fdoving | or a patch to bzr. | 22:33 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: lemme push the code | 22:34 |
| fdoving | you need to wait for the window to close before exiting. a while loop or something like that. | 22:34 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: pushed | 22:35 |
| fdoving | updating. | 22:35 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: well I tried several things, but nothing worked as expecting | 22:35 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I also cleaned a lot the code with useless variable and so on | 22:35 |
| mhb | txwikinger: so what do you do w.r.t kubuntu? | 22:35 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: if you can fix that last little problem, we can prepare a new public release of it | 22:36 |
| txwikinger | mhb: Well this and that | 22:36 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: while, ok, but what to check ? ;) | 22:36 |
| txwikinger | I am the point of kontakt for kubuntu-de.org | 22:36 |
| txwikinger | contact | 22:36 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: where is this kmessagebox? | 22:36 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is just that the messagebox pops and exists immediately | 22:36 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: despite living in England :) | 22:36 |
| txwikinger | I am working at the moment to be a MOTU | 22:36 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: yes... | 22:37 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: where do you stay in England? | 22:37 |
| txwikinger | we have re-sturcture kubuntu-de.org to make it more in line with the ubuntu structure in general | 22:37 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: search for if (badpass<3) in kdesudo.cpp | 22:37 |
| txwikinger | and I am doing a lot of communication with the folks here | 22:37 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: In Birmingham | 22:37 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the point is that sudo exits, and then the process ends, causing the program to stop | 22:38 |
| Riddell | well well, popular place | 22:38 |
| txwikinger | You kidding me :) | 22:38 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: previous behavior was not to quit kapp is there was an error, but that was quite nasty hack | 22:38 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I prefer to close properly and find a way to make the program waits for the messagebox to be closed before going on... | 22:38 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: but...... I can't seem to find out how to do that | 22:39 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: my girlfriend is in tipton | 22:39 |
| txwikinger | Ah.. Isn't that between Bham and Wolverhampton? | 22:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: heard about the bugs with polyester ? quite problematic... | 22:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: don't think so | 22:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147818 | 22:39 |
| ubotu | KDE bug 147818 in general "Kate crashes when closing files" [Crash,Resolved: invalid] | 22:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/polyester/+bug/144429 | 22:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 144429 in polyester "Crash of Kate when closing files, only using polyester style" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:39 |
| Tonio_ | I can confirm this | 22:40 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: you need to have some bool that says there is a box, then check if that bool is true/false on exit, if it's not, wait til it gets the right state. | 22:40 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: yes | 22:40 |
| txwikinger | Yes.. I lecture sometimes in Wolverhampton | 22:40 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yes but when to change the bool state since the program continues ? | 22:40 |
| txwikinger | I remember driving by there | 22:40 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: drive fast is the best way :) | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I read the kmessagebox class reference without success | 22:41 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: well I am German ..... | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the only option I have is to use a questionyesno, and despite the response, give the same result, that causes the program to stop | 22:41 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: is this a problem for all the errors ?` | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: but that's quite nasty | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: nope | 22:41 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: the only case when sudo exits and you get an error is when you have 3 bad passwords | 22:42 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: but of course, depending the error, that can happen for other errors too | 22:42 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I have a tweak for this, just do as before | 22:43 |
| Tonio_ | but that causes the program not to close properly | 22:43 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I didn't even know kate had a tabs extension | 22:43 |
| Tonio_ | don't kapp->exit if bla=false | 22:43 |
| |dthacker| | Hi. should I submit formal test reports for the alpha or just throw it on the Alpha wiki page? | 22:43 |
| Tonio_ | and set the variable depending this | 22:43 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: a pyKDE4 tutorial? | 22:44 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I can switch back to old behavior waiting to find better solution | 22:44 |
| Tonio_ | not superb way to do, but working and non risky | 22:44 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: I hope so, although sime hasn't replied yet | 22:45 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: is there a way with kapp to check if child window are still opened ? | 22:45 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: that would be a solution | 22:45 |
| Riddell | stdin: could you upload your python-kde4 package to your ppa for gutsy and hardy? | 22:45 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: i'll try to attend that for sure,the problem is, where do you get pyKDE4 from? | 22:45 |
| stdin | Riddell: I can for hardy, but it won't work for gutsy | 22:46 |
| Riddell | stdin: oh? why not? | 22:46 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: stdin packaged it the other day, what a guy eh | 22:46 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: maybe http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qapplication.html#lastWindowClosed | 22:46 |
| fdoving | or not.. | 22:47 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: so it found its way off your to-do list for your to-do list, onto your to-do list, and then got done in a couple days? amazing XD | 22:47 |
| stdin | Riddell: needs sip4 (>= 4.7.1) and gutsy has 4.7 | 22:47 |
| Riddell | stdin: hmm, can we backport that? | 22:47 |
| stdin | nosrednaekim: 3 days actually, in a "sudo pbuilder --login" chroot :p | 22:48 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: looking ;) | 22:48 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: hehe.... thanks alot! though I am on gutsy :( | 22:48 |
| stdin | Riddell: I haven't tried building it in gutsy yet, spent the time just getting it to build in hardy | 22:48 |
| * stdin try's to build it in gutsy | 22:49 | |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: won't work as the program sometimes doesn't have any window opened :) | 22:50 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: nice attempt, but wil not work | 22:50 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: i liked the previous way, what is the problem with it? | 22:55 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: the rest of the app in general is more nasty than that part, really. | 22:56 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: doesn't close properly when there is an issue | 22:56 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: not nice using from cmdline | 22:56 |
| Tonio_ | btw, but that horrible I admit | 22:56 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: another option is to detach the program | 22:57 |
| fdoving | doesn't close properly, like when? | 22:57 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: when typing 3 bad passwords | 22:57 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: with the old way you have to ctrl+C to go back to the prompt | 22:57 |
| fdoving | isn't that what 3 bad passwords are for? - lock up everything and force you to do something drastic? | 22:58 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: at least you need something like the bError bool. | 23:01 |
| fdoving | then you need to set it to true/false based on the happenings. | 23:02 |
| stdin | Riddell: looks like it should backport without a problem, I'll upload it to my PPA along with python-kde4 | 23:04 |
| Riddell | stdin: great | 23:04 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: can I grab it? is it "safe"? | 23:04 |
| stdin | "safe", such an interesting word :P | 23:05 |
| nosrednaekim | hehe | 23:05 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I think so | 23:06 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'll probably switch back to old code on that point, and detach the process | 23:06 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: is this for the RC1? | 23:07 |
| imbrandon | rc1? | 23:07 |
| stdin | it's pykde4 from svn on saturday | 23:08 |
| nosrednaekim | stdin: will it work with RC1? | 23:08 |
| nosrednaekim | of KDE4 | 23:08 |
| stdin | maybe :) I've only just installed hardy and haven't tried it | 23:09 |
| stdin | I haven't even built it in gutsy yet | 23:09 |
| nosrednaekim | ok.... I'll give it a shot | 23:09 |
| stdin | and I'll leave that to the PPA buildd's, as I don't want to wait 3 hours to see if it works here | 23:09 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: did you confirm that 16:00 UTC was good for you? | 23:10 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: I did not confirm, but it is ok with me | 23:11 |
| txwikinger | Just saw it when you posted the link here | 23:11 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: great | 23:11 |
| stdin | all uploaded | 23:20 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: found the solution ;) | 23:24 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm adding support for "nice" and I'm done for the moment | 23:25 |
| Riddell | nixternal: able to do a fridge story about http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3125 ? | 23:32 |
| nixternal | depends on how much money you have for me? :) | 23:32 |
| nixternal | will get that started sir | 23:32 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: the try again password error can be removed, as it's just annoying anyway. | 23:33 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: one error after 3 attempts is OK. | 23:34 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: hum true, doing this | 23:34 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: I'm wondering how kdesu does the priority convertion with nice | 23:35 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: kdesu goes from 0 to 100 when nice goes from -20 to 19 | 23:35 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: i need to go, i'll have a closer look at your changes tomorrow if you push your changes. | 23:38 |
| fdoving | nite. | 23:38 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: seya ;) | 23:38 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: thanks for the help ! | 23:38 |
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| mhb | good night and may the christmas be with you | 23:59 |
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