[00:01] <r0y4l> any ideas why i get a segfault if i try to start compiz?
[00:02] <r0y4l> after starting i.e. kde-window-decorator or emerald, etc. i get a segmentation fault (core dumped) :(
[00:02] <hcbox> how can i add dictionnaries to kontact ?
[00:05] <mic654654> adept manager us getting stuck on "looking up headers", any ideas?
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> mic654654 > try to change your repo's domain
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> fore axample .us.something to .de.something
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> etc
[00:08] <mic654654> MetaMorfoziS: it seems to happen under all of them until i visit the repo in a browser
[00:09] <linuxvisitor> I have problem with amarok playing wma files. It always skips once in the begining 1-3 seconds in. The skip is always in the same place for each song
[00:09] <hcbox> how can i add dictionnaries to kontact ? ( want to add french dictionary)
[00:12] <bazhang_> mic654654: you can also try source-o-matic to change all that
[00:12] <neosaki> So, if I wanted to install 7.10 with KDE 4.0RC1, how would I go about this?
[00:12] <bazhang_> neosaki: carefully :}
[00:25] <kamui__> i cant build the intel iwlwifi driver keep getting the error about /lib/modules/kernver/source not found
[00:26] <kamui__> what do i need to apt on my new gutsy system
[00:27] <kamui__> Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source'
[00:27] <kamui__> chmod: cannot access `compatible/*': No such file or directory
[00:27] <kamui__> /bin/sh: cannot create compatible/kversion: Directory nonexistent
[00:27] <kamui__> -e
[00:27] <kamui__> Makefile has been modified by generate_compatible, please run `make' again
[00:28] <theverant> anyone know why I need to run Quanta as root to be able to change the colour scheme?  Otherwise changes I make don't apply...
[00:30] <HoNgOuRu> hi I want to tell u guys that I fix my ati problem
[00:30] <HoNgOuRu> I have installed the latest privative ati driver with graphic acceleration
[00:31] <Alonea> BluesKaj: sorry it took me so long to answer. I had to leave for a moment. fgl_glxgears? no. its says its not installed. when I reformatted my system I haven't tried to put back on fglrx yet.
[00:31] <HoNgOuRu> I uninstalled the driver with envy, and from out of the X installed the .run file and that was all
[00:31] <Alonea> BluesKaj: but before the reformat I did.
[00:31] <HoNgOuRu> thanx anyway
[00:40] <theverant> ok, well, it's more than just Quanta.  Apparently I can't change any system colours in KDE.  Control panel changes colours, but no other program changes... even after restarting
[00:40] <theverant> anyone know what could cause this?
[00:42] <naelr> so can someone tell me why I cannot compile a new kernel?
[00:45] <Hamra> !kernel | naelr
[00:45] <ubotu> naelr: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[00:45] <naelr> I am very convinced mister ubotu....... thanks hamra
[00:48] <darlos> hello
[00:48] <darlos> guys, i am unable to play any shoutcast on my amarok!!!
[00:48] <darlos> help
[00:48] <darlos> plz
[00:49] <tarin> can anyone help with loss of internet?
[00:51] <tarin> hello?
[00:51] <tarin> are darlos and i the only ones here?
[00:51] <darlos> tink so
[00:51] <theverant> nah
[00:51] <theverant> I'm here, I'm just of no use to you
[00:51] <tarin> lol well at least you are honest
[00:52] <theverant> darlos - have you tried asking in Amarok
[00:52] <theverant> maybe someone is awake there?
[00:58] <tarin> anyone...internet help
[01:01] <dmcglone> anyone know where I can find the kicker bar that looks like the icons are sitting on top of it for compiz fusion?
[01:03] <bazhang_> tarin: what's the problem?
[01:04] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[01:04] <bazhang_> hiya
[01:04] <dmcglone> Hello
[01:04] <bazhang_> the cavalry has arrived :}
[01:04] <tekstacy> What's a good program to backup DVDs?
[01:05] <bazhang_> k3b
[01:05] <bazhang_> or vlc
[01:05] <zibrah3ed> dd
[01:05] <bazhang_> depending on your needs and type of dvd
[01:05] <tarin> i booted into gutsy and no internet
[01:05] <tekstacy> I thought vlc was just a player
[01:05] <tarin> happens everytime
[01:05] <tarin> i am dual booting with xp
[01:05] <bazhang_> tarin: could you be more specific? what does ifconfig say
[01:05] <dmcglone> did you set it up tarin?
[01:06] <dmcglone> tarin did you by any chance reboot from XP to Kubuntu?
[01:06] <tarin> yes
[01:06] <tarin> when i first installed it worked fine
[01:07] <zibrah3ed> tekstacy: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup_a_DVD
[01:07] <dmcglone> then your machine may not be completely releasing the NIC, try shutting completly down first
[01:07] <tarin> then i upgraded from fesisty
[01:07] <tekstacy> Thanks
[01:07] <tarin> feisty and now it wont do it
[01:08] <dmcglone> the first step I would take is shutting down completely to see if the machine is releasing the NIC properly
[01:08] <zibrah3ed> tarin: wired or wireless adpater?
[01:08] <tarin> wired
[01:08] <tarin> with a router
[01:08] <tarin> dsl
[01:09] <zibrah3ed> tarin: Do you know the model of your adapter
[01:09] <tarin> home build
[01:09] <tekstacy> tarin, take a look at virtualbox, it beats dual-booting
[01:09] <tarin> i dont want a virtual machine
[01:09] <htmldotcom> not in my experience.
[01:09] <htmldotcom> vm's are slower
[01:10] <htmldotcom> you cant beat a hdd install
[01:10] <tarin> thats for sure
[01:10] <zibrah3ed> tarin: output of lspci for your adapter example "00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)"
[01:11] <dmcglone> I can almost guarantee you he just needs to completly shutdown.
[01:11] <zibrah3ed> could be
[01:11] <dmcglone> he rebooted from XP, I've had the same problem many times over.
[01:12] <zibrah3ed> Never had that problem, but it probably depends on your hardware
[01:12] <mzanfardino> have have a very simply script that I would like to have run whether or not a user logs into the system.  Currently it's sitting in ~/.kde/Autostart.  Where can I move it such that it will start without the need of a user being logged in?  Or is that possible?
[01:12] <dmcglone> it's sporadic though.
[01:12] <mzanfardino> s/have/I
[01:12] <mzanfardino> s/simply/simple
[01:13] <tarin> ok now knetman is not even starting
[01:13] <tarin> and if i choose it from menu it does nothing
[01:13] <Dragnslcr> mzanfardino- should be able to just make it a cron job
[01:13] <mzanfardino> Dragnslcr: not familiar with that process sadly, but I will research it
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> !cron
[01:14] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> KCron is good for setting it up
[01:14] <mzanfardino> Dragnslcr: thanks
[01:15] <Dragnslcr> No prob
[01:15] <tarin> ok got the lspci for ethernet
[01:16] <tarin> ethernet controller realtek semiconductor inc blah blah blah rev 10
[01:17] <zibrah3ed> tarin: Did you try the total shutdown then restart that dmcglone suggested?
[01:17] <tarin> yup
[01:19] <dmcglone> tarin whats the output of iconfig -a?
[01:19] <dmcglone> oops, I mean ifconfig -a
[01:21] <dmcglone> tarin are you on the same box that your having problems with?
[01:22] <snarkster> hi guys
[01:22] <maybeway36> hi
[01:22] <dmcglone> hello
[01:23] <tarin> no i am on my laptop right now
[01:23] <snarkster> Im trying to install j2re1.4 but it fails to preconfigure exiting with error status 10
[01:23] <snarkster> i dont know what that means as im new to kubuntu..
[01:23] <dmcglone> does ifconfig -a show you an IP?
[01:24] <dmcglone> snarkster are you trying to install the .tar file or are you using adept?
[01:24] <tarin> it gives me an ipv6 ip address
[01:25] <dmcglone> show me this line tarin.
[01:25] <tarin> i cant even ping the 127.0.0.1
[01:26] <tarin> show you what line?
[01:26] <dmcglone> what does ifconfig -a say under eth0
[01:27] <tarin> you want all of it?
[01:27] <dmcglone> no just eth0
[01:27] <bazhang_> tarin: if you seriously want help, how about the exact model of that realtek card? if you just say blah, blah, then we might give advice like: oh do something like this blah blah, and then you'd have more troubles
[01:28] <tarin> sorry rtl-8139/8139c/8139c+
[01:28] <dmcglone> bazhang, I seriously doubt that has anything to do with it. I think his problem is he has misconfigured his connection.
[01:32] <tarin> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:01:29:D1:22:BB
[01:32] <tarin>   
[01:32] <tarin>  inet6 addr: fe80::201:29ff:fed1:22bb/64 Scope:Link
[01:32] <tarin>            
[01:32] <tarin> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:32] <tarin>           
[01:32] <tarin>  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:32] <tarin>           
[01:32] <tarin>  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:32] <tarin>           
[01:32] <tarin>  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:32] <tarin>           
[01:32] <tarin>  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[01:33] <tarin>          
[01:33] <zibrah3ed> tarin: what does lsmod list the "8139too" module
[01:33] <tarin>   Interrupt:20 Base address:0xa000
[01:33] <tarin> brb
[01:34] <dmcglone> see that bazhag, he's not even getting an IP
[01:35] <dmcglone> the card is reconized, and he stated it worked on the last release, so I believe he hasn't configured it either at all or just wrong.
[01:35] <bazhang_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=538448 tarin
[01:36] <zibrah3ed> bazhang_: he has already tried that
[01:36] <bazhang_> tarin: seems you need to either to completely turn off your machine, unplug, and then remove the battery for 15 seconds--followed by a boot into Ubuntu/Kubuntu--booting from xp into ubuntu will mkae it unworkable again--problem with the xp drivers
[01:37] <bazhang_> err make
[01:38] <bazhang_> tarin: the only other option at this point seems to be to go into windows (assuming the step above failed) and uncheck the power down under the windows properties of this card
[01:38] <dmcglone> well bazhang isn't that basically what I suggested in the first place? he don't need to remove the battery! that will wipe his BIOS out!
[01:38] <dmcglone> just kidding
[01:39] <dmcglone> LMAO
[01:39] <bazhang_> this is a laptop--yes?
[01:39] <bazhang_> dmcglone: hehe
[01:39] <zibrah3ed> He said it was a home build so i assume not
[01:40] <bazhang_> are ethernet cards replaceable? :}
[01:40] <genii> Usually they are. Even in laptops
[01:40] <dmcglone> depends on what you replace them with (if you know what I mean)
[01:40] <bazhang_> is tarin even still around?
[01:41] <bazhang_> cheers genii!
[01:41] <dmcglone> he hasn't left the chat. he's probably over fideling with his desktop
[01:41] <genii> bazhang_: Hiya :)
[01:43] <funcrush> Printer server is windows 2000 in my office, my desktop is kubuntu. Can I use the printer?
[01:43] <dmcglone> funcrush, I don't see why not. Just setup print sharing
[01:44] <funcrush> dmcglone: well, is it not metter OS?
[01:45] <dmcglone> no, every OS will share printers. I share mine
[01:45] <dmcglone> use samba
[01:45] <funcrush> Can i share printer in different OS?
[01:45] <dmcglone> Yes.
[01:46] <funcrush> well... yup, I'll try
[01:46] <funcrush> thank you:)
[01:46] <dmcglone> it doesn't matter to samba what OS your running
[01:46] <funcrush> I mean, there is Windows 2000 on the printer server
[01:47] <dmcglone> that don't matter.
[01:47] <funcrush> well then, should I install samba?
[01:47] <dmcglone> if you use samba and set it up correctly it will work flawlessly
[01:47] <naelr> ok I still can't recomplie my kernel
[01:47] <naelr> any have any suggestions ... I ddon't understand what I am doing wrong
[01:47] <dmcglone> whats up naelr?
[01:48] <naelr> I have a newer laptop and with some kernels some things work and with others soem don't .. . I get erros when I run make menuconfig
[01:48] <dmcglone> what errors?
[01:48] <epimeteo> hi ppl
[01:49] <naelr> where is the pasterbin page?
[01:49] <naelr> !pasterbin
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasterbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <naelr> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:50] <naelr> here is my errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46790/
[01:50] <dmcglone> let me take a look
[01:51] <naelr> I followed thist page ...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[01:52] <Dooood> I have a new question.  Last night, after my initial install, my resolution looked fine.  I set the screensaver to on, and went to bed.  This morning, I got up, the screensaverhadn't com on, and the screen was blank, even though I told it no to turn off the monitor.  When I woke the machine up, the resolution was WAY low, and it is no longer  possible to increase ther resolution anymore.  The slider indicates it is on the
[01:52] <Dooood> highest level, even though the resolution is abysmal..
[01:52] <dmcglone> check first to see if you even have the directory /scripts/kconfig/lxdialog
[01:52] <naelr> dmcglone: yes I do
[01:53] <dmcglone> Dooood, you need to reconfigure your monitor. I had the same problem.
[01:53] <Dooood> ok, how?
[01:54] <Dooood> like I said, I can't increase the slider anymore.
[01:54] <Dariok> Is there some way to just reset kubuntu to default settings without a reinstall? drivers and everything?
[01:54] <tarin> actually had to run to the store real quick i said brb earlier
[01:54] <dmcglone> naelr, thats weird
[01:54] <Dariok> a quick, nifty konsole command?
[01:54] <dmcglone> Dooood, use the system settings
[01:55] <naelr> I get same errors on my kubuntu desktop
[01:55] <Dooood> ok, I'll look again, but it is already set to the highest, dmcglone
[01:56] <dmcglone> Dooood, you can't re-set your resolution until you change the monitor
[01:56] <dmcglone> Ok I'll walk you through it. here grab my hand ;-)
[01:57] <Dooood> heh, thanks
[01:57] <dmcglone> system settings -> monitor & display
[01:57] <Dooood> got it
[01:57] <dmcglone> click administrator mode button
[01:58] <Dooood> got it
[01:58] <dmcglone> enter password
[01:58] <Dooood> got it
[01:58] <dmcglone> now click "hardware" tab
[01:58] <Dooood> ok
[01:59] <dmcglone> now click "configure" beside the "monitor" and choose a monitor that best fits yours
[01:59] <kub^> hi, i have a small issue with opera not using the mplayer plugin properly, i just get a white box. I have mozplugger installed and mplayer, opera is looking at the correct libraries. anyone able to help ?
[02:00] <Dooood> can I click "detect" dmcglone?
[02:00] <dmcglone> kub type: about:plugins in your URL and see if your plugins are there
[02:00] <Dooood> or will that just give me the same settings I've got?
[02:01] <dmcglone> no Doood, pick a monitor, you can pick a generic one that will do 1024x768
[02:01] <Dooood> ok
[02:01] <kub^> dmcglone: they are correct
[02:01] <matttis> what happened to my kaffeine player ? It doesn't play anything... same with totem
[02:01] <dmcglone> have you tried different sites?
[02:02] <kub^> dmcglone: for example windows media player is pointing at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[02:02] <kub^> dmcglone yes i have tried quicktime and windows media player sites with no luck, the sites work fine in firefox
[02:02] <dmcglone> windows media player? when did windows start making software for linux? LOL
[02:03] <kub^> windows media player plugin dmcglone :)
[02:04] <dmcglone> Sounds like an opera issue
[02:04] <tarin> ok when i go to sys services networking is not running
[02:04] <dmcglone> Dooood, anything yet?
[02:05] <tarin> when i try to start it it fails reading the /etc/network/interfaces
[02:05] <dmcglone> now you might be onto something tarin
[02:05] <dmcglone> show me that file
[02:07] <dmcglone> how did it go Doood?
[02:07] <dmcglone> did you restart your X server?
[02:07] <Dooood> not good, trying again
[02:08] <dmcglone> wait
[02:08] <dmcglone> did you restart your X server?
[02:08] <Dooood> apparently I chose the wrong refresh rate or something....
[02:08] <jpiccolo> anyone know of a ktorrent mirror for the source code?
[02:08] <dmcglone> you shouldn't need to specify a refresh rate
[02:09] <Dooood> there was 2 choices for a generic 1024X768, 60Hz, and 70Hz, I chose 70
[02:10] <Dooood> ok, going to restart x now
[02:10] <dmcglone> Ok
[02:11] <tarin> yay i fixed it i somehow had a duplicate inet eth0 inet dhcp
[02:12] <dmcglone> I figured you had it misconfigured
[02:12] <jpiccolo> ktorrent.org down for anyone else?
[02:12] <tarin> i dont know how it happened but man am i learning
[02:12] <bazhang_> tarin: glad to hear.
[02:12] <dmcglone> thank god you figured it out, I didn't want to sit here all night.
[02:12] <bazhang_> haha
[02:12] <dmcglone> I have a wife that has needs....LMAO
[02:13] <bazhang_> too much information
[02:13] <bazhang_> :}
[02:13] <dmcglone> it was either that or tell you to F*** off....LMAO
[02:13] <dmcglone> See I chose to be nice about it. :)
[02:14] <dmcglone> <~~~nice guy
[02:14] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:15] <dmcglone> looks like Dooood really misconfigured his monitor
[02:15] <jpiccolo> can you guys tell me if www.ktorrent.org is down of you also?
[02:16] <naelr> ok so why can't I complie me a new kernel
[02:16] <naelr> compile...
[02:16] <dmcglone> I'm not sure naelr.
[02:16] <naelr> this is pretty much a fresh install...
[02:17] <dmcglone> I wish I could say, but the error message doesn't give much.
[02:17] <jsn> is there a kubuntu forum ?? where ??
[02:17] <dmcglone> jsn http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <NickPresta> jpiccolo, ktorrent isn't down, but they don't any files in their root directory, apparently. Perhaps they are updating or switching to a new domain. I would check back in a few hours.
[02:17] <naelr> I used to run pure debian and I never had this problem...
[02:17] <BluesKaj> yes jpiccolo , ktorrent.org is giving a page with Configuration Error etc
[02:18] <jsn> so its the same as the ubuntu forums ??
[02:18] <jsn> ubuntuforums.org ??
[02:18] <naelr> ok I will go ask in the ubuntu channel
[02:18] <dmcglone> jsn i'll be more specific http://ubuntuforums.org/
[02:18] <jpiccolo> ok thanks for geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetting back to me on that
[02:18] <bazhang_> jsn: kubuntu has their own forum--though the questions you have may be answered on ubuntuforums.org as well
[02:19] <jpiccolo> grr sorry bluetoottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttth keyboard:(
[02:19] <bazhang_> haha
[02:19] <jpiccolo> doh
[02:19] <dmcglone> LOL I can see
[02:19] <jsn> and where is the kubuntu forums located at ??
[02:19] <dmcglone> http://www.kubuntu.org
[02:20] <BluesKaj> jpiccolo, enuff!
[02:20] <jsn> thxs
[02:20] <dmcglone> click on the tab forums
[02:20] <bazhang_> jsn: www.google.com
[02:20] <dmcglone> LOL bazhang
[02:20] <bazhang_> I mean cmon! :}
[02:20] <dmcglone> I mean click on the "support" tab
[02:21] <jpiccolo> sorry i wasnt trying too, my computer is freezing because of k3b is erroring trying to make a iso
[02:21] <bazhang_> jpiccolo: what is the error?
[02:22] <dmcglone> Well I guess I've put in my days work here. Break time! :-)
[02:22] <bazhang_> hehe
[02:23] <jpiccolo> i dont know, its just locking up my computer for like 5 seconds at a time
[02:23] <jpiccolo> cant hardly type
[02:23] <bazhang_> jpiccolo: you tried running it from konsole? that would give better error info
[02:24] <jpiccolo> k3b is closeddddd
[02:25] <jpiccolo> but i cant eject the cd
[02:25] <chjunior> howto upgrade kubuntu from feisty to gutsy ?
[02:25] <Dooood> dmcglone: I went to log out
[02:27] <Dooood> oops
[02:27] <Dooood> didn't mean to press enter yet
[02:29] <Dooood> anyway, dmcglone, I went to log out so I could restart my X server, but after I logged out, I just had a flashing prompt up in my upper left hand corner.  I assume that isn't what I should see, correct?  When I pressed reset, it booted, but my resolution is still low.
[02:29] <bazhang_> !upgrade | chjunior
[02:29] <ubotu> chjunior: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:30] <dmcglone> Ok Dooood, what size monitor do you have?
[02:30] <chjunior> ubotu: but that teaches only how to upgrade using GUI, and on ubuntu... not on kubuntu
[02:30] <chjunior> bazhang_: but that teaches only how to upgrade using GUI, and on ubuntu... not on kubuntu
[02:30] <Dooood> 19", I think
[02:30] <dmcglone> OK lets go back to the control pannel's monitor settings
[02:31] <Dooood> ok
[02:31] <bazhang_> chjunior: you want to upgrade via cli?
[02:33] <dmcglone> Ok first lets check out your graphics card settings
[02:33] <dmcglone> click on the configure button beside the graphics card
[02:34] <Dooood> shite, now I'm borked.  I noticed when I went back that there was room to move the slider, and I did so.  Now I have better resolution, but wherever my mouse pointer goes the screen has trouuble redrawing., and all the text in this window has gone away.  I can on;y see what I'm typing....
[02:34] <Dooood> oh, there's the text!
[02:34] <Dooood> oops, now it's gone.
[02:34] <dmcglone> Ok restart your x server
[02:34] <chjunior> bazhang_: doesn't matter :) cli or gui...
[02:35] <kristjans> hey... does anybody know if i can place a list inside a list in kword?
[02:35] <dmcglone> Doooood, you know that restarting your x serverrrr doesn't mean just logging out?
[02:35] <bazhang_> chjunior: the steps for ubuntu will work with kubuntu gui or cli
[02:35] <dmcglone> you need to choose "restart x server" in the menu of the login screen
[02:35] <Dooood> I didn't get a logon screen
[02:36] <dmcglone> have you logged out?
[02:36] <chjunior> bazhang_: in kubuntu we don't have a "update-manager"
[02:37] <pierreth> how can I copy a protected dvd?
[02:37] <GerrySly> how do I start apache in kubuntu? I installed it using Adept manager
[02:37] <dmcglone> chjunior yes we do
[02:37] <Dooood> I logged out, but it got stuck at the flashing cursor in the upper left hand corner, so I had to reset
[02:37] <chjunior> dmcglone: do we? not here... what is the package name?
[02:37] <bazhang_> chjunior: ok, that's true. let me get the specific link for you--just a  moment..
[02:37] <master_> Just installed the new kubuntu.. how can i get updates?
[02:37] <dmcglone> that was before, but this is now that you've changed resolution. Did you check your graphics card?
[02:38] <chjunior> does 7.10 have compiz enabled as default?
[02:38] <master_> And how can I get my nvidia driver installed?
[02:38] <chjunior> bazhang_: ok :D
[02:39] <dmcglone> chjunior hang on let me think, i'm having a brain fart
[02:39] <chjunior> dmcglone: hehehe, no problem :D
[02:40] <bazhang_> http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-upgrade/ chjunior with pictures!
[02:40] <dmcglone> is it update_manager?
[02:40] <rockets> Anybody know a good way to export a buddy list to import it to a new SN
[02:40] <rockets> AIM buddy list
[02:41] <dmcglone> Ah it's update-manager
[02:41] <chjunior> bazhang_: thanks! :D
[02:41] <bazhang_> chjunior: no worries :}
[02:41] <dmcglone> type that in konsole
[02:42] <dmcglone> or just type sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:42] <Dooood> yay!  ok dmcglone, I finally got a setting to work.....
[02:43] <chjunior> bazhang_: does 7.10 have compiz enabled as default?
[02:43] <dmcglone> chjunior, no
[02:43] <dmcglone> chjunior sudo apt-get install compiz
[02:44] <dmcglone> Cool Doood
[02:44] <chjunior> dmcglone: hummm
[02:44] <chjunior> dmcglone: but, ubuntu does, am I wrong? at least the livecd includes compiz as I could see last saturday...
[02:44] <dmcglone> oh and chjunior- apt-get install emerald
[02:45] <bazhang_> chjunior: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz
[02:45] <dmcglone> oh yeah almost forgot that bazhang :-)
[02:46] <master_> so.. nobody knows how to make my new install download/install security updates?
[02:46] <dmcglone> I don't know about ubuntu, this is a Kubuntu chat
[02:46] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:46] <master_> I am kubuntu..
[02:46] <dmcglone> master - update-managerrr
[02:46] <master_> Or--are you all just trying to compromise me right now?
[02:46] <dmcglone> update-manager that is
[02:46] <master_> ok.. cool
[02:48] <master_> dmcglone: don't seem to have any such program (trying from command line).. maybe it's not installed
[02:48] <dmcglone> don't forget to enable the security channel
[02:48] <syazdani> Hi room. I just installed kubuntu on my HP Pavillion DV6000, and I can't get the nvidia graphic card or the wireless working.
[02:48] <dmcglone> probably isn't
[02:48] <BluesKaj> master_, don't forget to update your sources.list
[02:49] <syazdani> any ideas where there is a howto to follow?
[02:49] <master_> dmcglone: where do i do all that?
[02:50] <dmcglone> master: sudo apt-get install update-manager
[02:52] <master_> dmcglone: that was the first thing I tried.. anyway.. i found it all in the gui... thanks..
[02:52] <master_> getting updates now
[02:53] <dmcglone> thats what we were looking for. we were looking for the update-manager gui. LOL
[02:53] <master_> I am hoping one of these will fix the messed up kde menu labels, too..
[02:53] <master_> they all say something like _: entries kde menu ......
[02:53] <dmcglone> how did your labels get messed up?
[02:54] <master_> dmcglone: installed like that.. actually, i tried installing on two other machines and the same thing happened..
[02:54] <master_> one was a virtual machine.. (vmware)
[02:54] <dmcglone> Wow. thats weird
[02:54] <syazdani> oh, with the _: entries problem, I updated kde completely and then restart kde, they went away for me.
[02:54] <master_> cool..
[02:55] <master_> then i will need to get my nvidia driver...
[02:55] <syazdani> ditto here.
[02:55] <dmcglone> Oh boy.
[02:55] <dmcglone> have fun with the nvidia
[02:55] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:55] <syazdani> master_: I'm guessing you are not living in US.
[02:55] <dmcglone> who me?
[02:55] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:55] <syazdani> the _entries problem seems to be for people who are not in US.
[02:56] <dmcglone> Oh now blame it on us english speaking people... LOL
[02:57] <syazdani> :)
[02:57] <syazdani> There apparently was something wrong with all the other locale files.
[02:58] <nikosapi> Does compiz crash when opening openoffice for anyone else here? This never used to happen in Feisty...
[02:59] <dmcglone> Well I can say, the past week I've been running compiz, it seems emerald crashes on me for no apearant reason
[02:59] <dmcglone> but not compiz
[03:03] <flaccid> US, yuk
[03:04] <nikosapi> dmcglone: ah, I guess you're right. compiz is still running...
[03:04] <nikosapi> so I'll try a different window decorator
[03:05] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:05] <dmcglone> glad I can help.
[03:06] <kub^> anyone have a recommendation for webcams on kubuntu, needs to be under £20 and noobinstallproof ? :)
[03:06] <Dooood> ok, remembering I'm a n00b, where do I look for drivers for an Epson C66 printer, which I'll be accessing on one of the winXP machines on the network?
[03:06] <vicious> hola
[03:06] <dmcglone> Intel cs330 that comes with the create and share software
[03:07] <vicious> alguien sabe por que no me deja cambiar la resolucion de pantalla
[03:07] <vicious> ??
[03:07] <dmcglone> been using mine for about 10 years
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | vicious
[03:07] <ubotu> vicious: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[03:08] <kub^> ty dmcglone, btw the opera problem was fixed by installing the latest beta :)
[03:08] <dmcglone> Man I'm on a roll today
[03:08] <dmcglone> whooo hooo
[03:08] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:08] <kub^> dmcglone what do i need to do for that webcam installation wise ?
[03:09] <dmcglone> Come on people, I'm doing so good today I can probably read your fortune.
[03:09] <nikosapi> dmcglone: sweet, the gtk-window-decorator seems to work, thanks
[03:09] <dmcglone> Nothing, just plug it in and choose some software
[03:09] <kub^> dont puff up his ego even more nikosapi :)
[03:09] <dmcglone> no problem nikosapi
[03:09] <dmcglone> LOL kub
[03:09] <Dooood> ok, dmcglone, read my fortune about my question above....
[03:09] <Dooood> ok, remembering I'm a n00b, where do I look for drivers for an Epson C66 printer, which I'll be accessing on one of the winXP machines on the network?
[03:10] <nikosapi> kub^: hehe
[03:10] <dmcglone> Doooood, was your printer detected?
[03:10] <Dooood> no
[03:10] <Dooood> figured I'd need drivers to get it to detect
[03:10] <dmcglone> have you installed the gimp printer drivers?
[03:11] <Dooood> um.
[03:11] <Dooood> no.
[03:11] <dmcglone> go for it. thats step one
[03:11] <Dooood> that's where the total n00b part comes in....
[03:11] <Dooood> so, a sudo thiny?
[03:11] <Dooood> thingy?
[03:11] <dmcglone> well the gimp print drivers will more than likely have your drivers you need
[03:12] <Dooood> aha
[03:12] <dmcglone> use adept
[03:12] <Dooood> and what do I type to get that again?  ~sudo somethingsomethingsomething?
[03:12] <dmcglone> I can't remember the name of the package. do a search for gimp-print
[03:13] <Dooood> ok
[03:14] <Dooood> installing now
[03:14] <dmcglone> ta-da
[03:15] <dmcglone> that should do it.
[03:15] <Dooood> koo
[03:16] <dmcglone> I'm on such a roll all while I got pink eye
[03:16] <Dooood> once done, do I need to restart or do something?  Do a little John Travolta dance? Hold my mouth in a frown?
[03:16] <funcrush> Should I install samba before configure printer on network?
[03:16] <dmcglone> you don't have to do any of that crap
[03:16] <Dooood> koo
[03:17] <dmcglone> funcrush, yes, you can't install a printer on a non-existant print server
[03:17] <funcrush> dmcglone: yup thank you!
[03:18] <Dooood> so, dmcglone, after doing that install, the printer should pop up in the samba window when viewing that mchine?  It hasn't, am I looking in the wrong place?
[03:19] <Dooood> ...maybe I should have done the Travolta?
[03:19] <dmcglone> Woah, where did samba come in here at?
[03:19] <jalbert> hey can anybody recommend me a wireless card?
[03:19] <Dooood> where else do I look for a printer, except attached to that machine?
[03:20] <dmcglone> Dooood, you never specified a network printer in your question
[03:20] <dmcglone> LMAO
[03:20] <Dooood> I did
[03:20] <Dooood> ok, remembering I'm a n00b, where do I look for drivers for an Epson C66 printer, which I'll be accessing on one of the winXP machines on the network?
[03:20] <dmcglone> hang on, let me see your question again
[03:20] <Dooood> see?
[03:20] <syazdani> hmm, I can't even download the nvidia drivers.
[03:20] <syazdani> hmm.
[03:20] <dmcglone> OK gotcha
[03:21] <Dooood> whew.
[03:21] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:21] <Dooood> glad I covered my butt!
[03:21] <dmcglone> ok did you install the package?
[03:21] <Dooood> yes
[03:21] <Dooood> I didn't do the Travolta, tho....
[03:21] <dmcglone> ok see if your drivers are listed in the "printer" in system settings
[03:21] <Dooood> um, hang on
[03:23] <Dooood> what willit say if they are?  I have some references to printers there, including an "add" tab....
[03:24] <Dooood> ok, I'm trying to add the printer, I chose TCP, and it is scanning the network now.
[03:27] <Dooood> ....slowly scanning, that is.....
[03:28] <Dooood> can I just input the smb://l<machine name> in the "Printer address" box, dmcglone?
[03:28] <dmglonee> Im back Nooob
[03:28] <Dooood> ah
[03:29] <Dooood>  you missed it all then.
[03:29] <dmglonee> my wife unpluged the computer and tv
[03:29] <Dooood> let me re enter what you missed.
[03:29] <Dooood> what willit say if they are?  I have some references to printers there, including an "add" tab....
[03:29] <Dooood> ok, I'm trying to add the printer, I chose TCP, and it is scanning the network now.
[03:29] <Dooood> can I just input the smb://l<machine name> in the "Printer address" box, dmcglone?
[03:30] <dmglonee> OK wait a minute, is the printer on the other computer? or the one your one right now?
[03:30] <Dooood> the scan is going *very* slowly.
[03:30] <Dooood> other computer
[03:30] <dmglonee> Ah then you need to set up an smb printer
[03:30] <Dooood> aha
[03:30] <Dooood> ok
[03:30] <dmglonee> I thought you were trying to install a printer on your linux box
[03:31] <Pilot_> Anyone with OpenOffice knowledge, could you help me with a OO problem regarding paragraph breaks and the enter key: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3887871#post3887871
[03:31] <dmglonee> do you have samba running on the computer that the printer is hooked to?
[03:32] <Dooood> uh.  no.  I don't.
[03:33] <Dooood> I need samba on the XP machine, too?
[03:33] <Dooood> dang I hate being a n00b.
[03:33] <dmglonee> first you need to set up samba on your computer that the printer is hooked to, and then find the share name for the printer then set it up on your linux box
[03:34] <Dooood> hm.
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> You shouldn't need to install Samba on a Windows machine
[03:34] <dmglonee> you got a lot of work ahead of you being a noob and trying to set up a print server... LOL
[03:35] <Dooood> ok, so I need to go to the XP machine, and download a Windows version of Samba?  Where do I get that?
[03:35] <flaccid> windows comes with smb
[03:35] <Dooood> aha
[03:35] <flaccid> which is windows sharing
[03:35] <Dooood> dang I hate being a n00b.
[03:35] <flaccid> all good
[03:35] <dmglonee> true, but he's gotta set it up LOL
[03:35] <flaccid> printer is on xp machine?
[03:35] <flaccid> if so just right click on it and share it
[03:36] <dmglonee> Im pretty sure he said it was
[03:36] <Dooood> well, the printer can be seen by other winXP machines.....
[03:36] <Dooood> it is shared.
[03:36] <flaccid> then it can be seen by ubuntu as well
[03:36] <Dooood> I'll double check, though
[03:36] <dmglonee> well what is the "share name" for the printer?
[03:37] <kub^> dmglonee cant seem to find a cs330 for sale in the UK its rather antiquated ;) any more recommendations ?
[03:37] <flaccid> then just goto system settings | printers and add the printer. it has a share scanner thing in that gui as well..
[03:37] <Dooood> ok, I'll try again
[03:38] <dmglonee> kub did you look up "intel create and share"?
[03:38] <flaccid> it would be quite rare that the printer is not browseable..
[03:38] <kub^> no i will do that now tho
[03:39] <dmglonee> Ah my previous name finally was let go
[03:41] <dmglonee> I'll be back, I'm gonna go get in bed and get on my laptop.
[03:41] <GuHHH> does someone uses amavis + postfix + spamassassin? i need help. my spams are not getting tagged or any spam headers...
[03:41] <Dooood> sounds kinky.
[03:41] <dmglonee> LOL Doooood
[03:41] <flaccid> GuHHH: probably better to try #spamassassin
[03:41] <dmglonee> I'll be back on my laptop in a few minutes
[03:41] <Dooood> I've never tried to get ON my laptop.....
[03:42] <Dooood> my cat gets on my laptop.....
[03:42] <Dooood> but....
[03:43] <GuHHH> flaccid: not much help there
[03:44] <dmcglone> I'm back.
[03:45] <dmcglone> any luck while I was away? LOL
[03:45] <flaccid> GuHHH: elaborate
[03:46] <flaccid> oh sorry
[03:46] <GuHHH> ?
[03:46] <flaccid> i thought you were someone else
[03:46] <flaccid> yeah i don't think that anyone here would help with that
[03:46] <dmcglone> help with what, I missed the question
[03:47] <Dooood> hm.  Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[03:48] <dmcglone> why not replace XP with Kubuntu
[03:48] <kub^> dmcglone i cant find that webcam on any uk web retailers that i know of
[03:48] <Dooood> woah! one machine at a time!
[03:49] <dmcglone> doood only way to learn is to just jump in head first
[03:49] <dmcglone> :-)
[03:49] <Dooood> I can't change that machine, anyway, the wife has to have it for her business.  If I change that, I become nutless.
[03:49] <Dooood> I like my nuts.
[03:49] <Dooood> I'm quite attached to them.
[03:49] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:50] <dmcglone> Someday you will see that having nuts is not as important than having a working machine ;-)
[03:50] <Dooood> heh
[03:50] <Dooood> maybe in YOUR opinion.....
[03:50] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:50] <crimsun> your wife will leave you.  Your working machine won't.  End of story.
[03:50] <Dooood> I value my nuts, thank you.
[03:51] <Dooood> she'd take the nuts.....
[03:51] <crimsun> and nuts are very secondary to a working machine.
[03:51] <crimsun> unless you plan to farm yourself out, that is.
[03:51] <Dooood> no, I just like my nuts where they  are.
[03:51] <Dooood> ..and whole....
[03:51] <Dooood> ...and functional....
[03:51] <crimsun> not my concern; I only care for working *buntu machines :-)
[03:51] <dmcglone> sounds like crimsun knows what it means to have a good OS
[03:52] <Dooood> heehee
[03:52] <Dooood> let's leave my nuts out of the equation.
[03:52] <dmcglone> Someday Dooood will understand
[03:52] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:52] <dmcglone> Doood, another good thing about it is, you can get a fresh new one every 6 months
[03:53] <dmcglone> LMAO
[03:53] <Dooood> nuts?
[03:53] <dmcglone> no kubuntu system
[03:53] <dmcglone> LMAO
[03:53] <Dooood> ohhhhhh.....
[03:53] <Dooood> heheheh
[03:54] <Dooood> Well, let's just get the first one running smoothly, for now.  We can discuss me trading my nuts away later....
[03:54] <dmcglone> wish I could say the same for women..... HA! HA! <evil laughter>
[03:54] <Dooood> heh
[03:54] <Dooood> been there, done hat.....
[03:55] <Dooood> it's not all it's "cracked" up to be, as it were.
[03:55] <dmcglone> the trick is to convince your wife you need a break from your daily stresses of life.
[03:55] <flaccid> sorry was on phone
[03:55] <Dooood> (....sorry...)
[03:55] <Dooood> heh
[03:55] <flaccid> you get nt access denied ?
[03:55] <Dooood> yes
[03:55] <flaccid> windows is not sharing it publicly
[03:55] <Dooood> hm.
[03:55] <flaccid> like anon
[03:56] <flaccid> i've seen this many times when in fact it is shared properly
[03:56] <dmcglone> flaccid was you by any chance talking to microsoft tech support for Doood?
[03:56] <dmcglone> LOL
[03:56] <Dooood> ok, how do I force ananomus sharing?
[03:56] <Dooood> oops
[03:56] <flaccid> don't need, just talk from experience heh
[03:56] <Dooood> aninymous
[03:56] <flaccid> you call bill
[03:56] <Dooood> shite.
[03:56] <flaccid> um
[03:56] <Dooood> anonymous.
[03:56] <Dooood> whew.
[03:56] <flaccid> you see its the XP box returning that right
[03:56] <Dooood> yes
[03:57] <flaccid> but it doesn't return that with windows clients, right
[03:57] <flaccid> windows clients can access the print share right?
[03:57] <dmcglone> I think if Dooood doesn't get it fixed soon, his wife is gonna make him anonymous
[03:57] <Dooood> correct, although I haven't checked recently
[03:57] <Dooood> never has, tho
[03:57] <flaccid> yeah i've seen this before a lot. iirc many possible reasons, the problem being windows..
[03:57] <Dooood> hm
[03:57] <dmcglone> or he isn't using the correct share name
[03:58] <flaccid> can't say i have a solution, besides nagging people in #samba and ##windows
[03:58] <Dooood> ok, well, I can wait on this until I get more familiar.
[03:58] <dmcglone> how long you been married Dooood?
[03:58] <Dooood> well, I can see the XP puter, but when I scan I get the NT error
[03:59] <Dooood> well, technically, we're not really married, but effectively 15 years.
[03:59] <flaccid> do you get the same error with smbclient ?
[03:59] <dmcglone> Ah cool, same here
[03:59] <Dooood> not on all folders, no.
[03:59] <flaccid> on the printer share
[03:59] <Dooood> yes
[03:59] <flaccid> as in smbclient -N //computer/printershare
[03:59] <flaccid> with that command?
[03:59] <Dooood> uh...
[04:00] <dmcglone> LOL he's now totally lost
[04:00] <Dooood> (n00b, remember)
[04:00] <flaccid> you can issue that command to test it in konsole
[04:00] <Dooood> where would I input that command?
[04:00] <Dooood> ok
[04:00] <flaccid> also i believe in the printers add thing, you can select to use 2 dif usernames for anon
[04:00] <flaccid> you might need to select the other one
[04:02] <dmcglone> looks like flaccid has this one under control.  It's my bed time. gotta get up bright and early.
[04:03] <dmcglone> I'll stop back in tomorrow.
[04:03] <flaccid> nothing is under control with m$ :p
[04:03] <dmcglone> LOL true
[04:04] <dmcglone> anyway, I'm off to bed. Have a good one and i'll catch you all tomorrow
[04:04] <Dooood> kendall@kendall-kubuntu:~$ smbclient -N //lynx/Epson C66
[04:04] <Dooood> Domain=[LYNX] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
[04:04] <Dooood> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[04:05] <Dooood> any help there, flaccid?
[04:05] <flaccid> yeah
[04:06] <flaccid> bad share name
[04:06] <flaccid> or host
[04:06] <flaccid> what does smbclient -NL //lynx return ?
[04:06] <flaccid> please keep in mind !pastebin
[04:06] <Dooood> well, the share name is exactly what windows says
[04:06] <flaccid> it cannot have spaces...
[04:06] <Dooood> hang on
[04:07] <Dooood>         ---------       ----      -------
[04:07] <Dooood>         Documents and Settings Disk
[04:07] <Dooood>         My Documents    Disk
[04:07] <flaccid> !pastebin > Dooood
[04:07] <Dooood>         IPC$            IPC       Remote IPC
[04:07] <Dooood>         print$          Disk      Printer Drivers
[04:07] <Dooood>         Epson C66       Printer   EPSON Stylus C66 Series
[04:07] <Dooood>         000lynxtransfers Disk
[04:07] <Dooood> Domain=[LYNX] OS=[Windows 5.1] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]
[04:07] <Dooood>         Server               Comment
[04:07] <Dooood>         ---------            -------
[04:07] <Dooood>         Workgroup            Master
[04:07] <Dooood>         ---------            -------
[04:08] <LimCore> Dooood: smooth.
[04:08] <Dooood> (remember, n00b!)
[04:08] <Dooood> how do I invoke pastebin?
[04:08] <flaccid> Dooood: i recommend re-sharing the printer as "EpsonC66"
[04:08] <Dooood> ok
[04:08] <flaccid> take out the space
[04:08] <Dooood> ok
[04:08] <flaccid> then try the first command again
[04:08] <Dooood> ok
[04:09] <Dooood> How do I use pastebin?
[04:09] <flaccid> !pastebin | Dooood
[04:09] <ubotu> Dooood: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <flaccid> you go there, paste the output, then give the returning url to the chan here
[04:09] <Dooood> ok, sorry.
[04:10] <Dooood> I feel duly chastised....
[04:10] <flaccid> why is that
[04:12] <Dooood> ok, got no error with that, I'll try going through the printer setup again
[04:13] <flaccid> sweet
[04:14] <Dooood> hm. doing the scan I get the NT error again.
[04:14] <htmldotcom> how would I make the K menu transprent? i already did it to the panel
[04:14] <vers> i need help......please
[04:14] <flaccid> just add it explicitly
[04:14] <Dooood> ok
[04:15] <htmldotcom> noone?
[04:15] <Radi01> Look at your K manual.
[04:15] <Dooood> I'd offer to help, htmldotcom, but I don't know diddly yet.
[04:16] <vers> im trying to get virtualbox.....i have it DLed but i dont know what else to do ..i want microsoft xp in a window on my pc.....but i dont know how to get microsoft in a file type that i can download
[04:16] <Radi01> Kubuntu does come with a manual.
[04:16] <flaccid> !virtualbox
[04:16] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[04:16] <flaccid> did you read that, vers?
[04:16] <vers> yup
[04:16] <htmldotcom> you have to pay for it vers
[04:16] <vers> im a newbie at this
[04:17] <vers> pay? for what
[04:17] <vers> box?
[04:17] <vers> or microsoft?
[04:17] <htmldotcom> Radi01: rtfm is what youre saying :)
[04:17] <htmldotcom> msft, not box
[04:17] <Radi01> ya
[04:18] <Radi01> or help will get you there also.
[04:18] <htmldotcom> yea
[04:18] <vers> well my pc is a microsoft pc....but i converted so isnt there a way
[04:18] <vers> for free?
[04:18] <htmldotcom> you erased microsoft
[04:19] <htmldotcom> ?
[04:19] <Radi01> U cant pvt unless you register your nic.
[04:19] <htmldotcom> me?
[04:19] <vers> ?
[04:19] <Radi01> Me 2.
[04:19] <vers> huh?
[04:19] <vers> yay or nay?
[04:20] <Radi01> nay
[04:20] <vers> well i have a pitition
[04:20] <vers> petition?
[04:20] <Radi01> lol
[04:20] <htmldotcom> vers: the only way to legally install microsoft is if you have an install cd and key
[04:20] <htmldotcom> lol. partition
[04:20] <Radi01> Screw micro$oft.
[04:21] <htmldotcom> xactly
[04:21] <vers> thank you....i have the key on the back of my computer in the form of a sticker
[04:21] <htmldotcom> sure
[04:21] <Radi01> sudo apt-get remove ./ bill gates.
[04:21] <vers> lol
[04:21] <htmldotcom> lol
[04:22] <vers> im liking linux alot better but other people dont find it as friendly so i have to do something
[04:22] <htmldotcom> eat cake?
[04:22] <htmldotcom> :D
[04:22] <vers> jokes?
[04:22] <htmldotcom> no
[04:23] <Radi01> Since I gave up windows, I actually find linux easier to learn and deal with. It comes with less headaches.
[04:23] <vers> anyway.....thanks for your help....
[04:23] <snarkster> i keep running into issues installing jre.. anyone got any clues to share about installing it?
[04:23] <htmldotcom> sure
[04:23] <vers> i agree
[04:23] <flaccid> !java | snarkster
[04:23] <ubotu> snarkster: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:23] <vers> oohhh yeah....whats kdfx?
[04:24] <vers> kbfx?
[04:24] <flaccid> its a dock alternative
[04:24] <ardchoille> !info kbfx
[04:24] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1718 kB, installed size 4108 kB
[04:24] <Radi01> Plus I dont have 2500 protection icons that out do the system icons.
[04:25] <\dEAD> not sure what happened but was a power failure this morning. when sys came back up a bit ago, i didnt have to hit alt+f2 and res is 1680x1050. previously best i could do was 1400x900 or so
[04:25] <ardchoille> flaccid: I think you're thinking of kxdocker?
[04:25] <flaccid> i guess so
[04:25] <flaccid> kbfx is the menu only?
[04:25] <htmldotcom> Radi01 wht does your desktop look like, just lokking for inspiration :p
[04:25] <ardchoille> flaccid: Yeah, and it's pretty cool menu replacement
[04:25] <Radi01> Forrest.
[04:25] <flaccid> coolio
[04:25] <\dEAD> got a screen pic of it?
[04:26] <ardchoille> http://www.kbfx.org/staticpages/index.php?page=20060224124413545
[04:26] <Radi01> Got it on kde-look.org
[04:26] <ardchoille> It's in the repos
[04:27] <\dEAD> hey, know if i can swap out k's kicker for a mac lookalike?
[04:27] <draik> What is a good P2P client? gtk-gnutella isn't working. Frostwire isn't available in Gutsy. What else is there?
[04:27] <htmldotcom> dude install dreamlinux if u want THAT  *shudders*
[04:27] <vers> thats what im talkin about
[04:27] <\dEAD> i dont like dl
[04:28] <mot_> what is a good command-line based utility for detecting attempted network probes/scans?
[04:28] <htmldotcom> draik: bittorrent?
[04:28] <mot_> as in, something i could run on a box that serves as a firewall that would display attempted intrusions into my network
[04:28] <draik> htmldotcom: For getting songs?
[04:28] <htmldotcom> yes.
[04:28] <draik> htmldotcom: I just want songs. For torrents I use kTorrent
[04:28] <\dEAD> p2p is evil. try usenet
[04:28] <flaccid> !info frostwire
[04:28] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[04:28] <flaccid> dang
[04:29] <flaccid> i guess you could install frostwire manually
[04:29] <htmldotcom> you can get songs using torrents
[04:29] <tricky> How come a Mplayer plugin is able to completely crash my box?
[04:29] <\dEAD> torrents are evil too
[04:29] <snarkster> not to sound like an idiot but which java do you suggest for Kubuntu 7.10.. According to the wesite you suggested it seems to suggest iced-tea
[04:29] <flaccid> tricky: probably because its craaap. i have issues with it all the time myself, but yeah i don't actually know why...
[04:29] <htmldotcom> draik
[04:29] <draik> htmldotcom: I know :) But I want just single songs. I use *.torrents for albums and discographys
[04:29] <Airforce55555> how do you change the document to portrait style in openoffice?
[04:30] <tricky> flacid: thx ..i get same issue with xine plugin
[04:30] <\dEAD> draik, see if your isp has a usenet news server .. its all there, all free
[04:30] <draik> \dEAD: Highly unlikely
[04:31] <htmldotcom> draik oh then why dont you just download the albums torrent, then uncheck the stuff you dont want
[04:31] <U238Willy> love kubuntu.. but I'm thinking of trying a minimal window manager to squeeze more juice out of this box, and suggestions for one? that will mesh well with kubuntu?
[04:31] <Dooood> agreed
[04:31] <\dEAD> most isp's have em. just not much retention or completion%. still better than 3 days waiting for a 10mb torrent :p
[04:31] <flaccid> or buy the track legally
[04:31] <Dooood> eek!
[04:31] <flaccid> U238Willy: fluxbox
[04:31] <htmldotcom> u238willy fluxbox or blackbox
[04:31] <U238Willy> ok
[04:31] <U238Willy> i hear fluxbox alot
[04:32] <U238Willy> thanks
[04:32] <htmldotcom> look at the wikipedias, see what you like
[04:32] <Dooood> draik, the only yime you can't get single songs using a torrent is if they are rared or zipped
[04:32] <htmldotcom> exactly
[04:32] <Dooood> otherwise, just pick and choose.
[04:32] <htmldotcom> yepp
[04:32] <Dooood> personally, I prefer whole albums.
[04:33] <htmldotcom> me too
[04:33] <htmldotcom> i had problemswith ktorrent
[04:33] <draik> htmldotcom: I just want one song. The DSL here "vacuums" big time. My torrents are downloaded at around 20-40kB/s.
[04:33] <snarkster> on kubuntu can I install sun-java6-jdk?
[04:33] <draik> snarkster: Sure. I don't see why not
[04:34] <htmldotcom> draik:use encryption?
[04:34] <Dooood> ok, enough banging my head into the kubuntu machine.  got some maintenance on my laptop to perform anywa, might as well bang the head on the windows machine....
[04:34] <snarkster> so just apt-get install sun-java6.jdk?
[04:35] <Dooood> draik, you can GET just one song, even if the torrent is the entire album.
[04:35] <draik> htmldotcom: I have the port forwarding setup, I have everything as it should be on the modem/router and my settings.
[04:35] <draik> Dooood: downloads via torrents are an eternity
[04:35] <Dooood> use encryption in your client, and just select the one song in the torrent to download.
[04:35] <htmldotcom> exactly
[04:35] <Dooood> force encryption
[04:35] <Dooood> it will help.
[04:35] <draik> snarkster: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[04:36] <snarkster> awesome thank you
[04:36] <Dooood> and besides, one song does not take an eternity, even at 30K
[04:36] <htmldotcom> and dont use torrentswith only one seed :D
[04:36] <draik> DSL dies just as a phone calls enters :(
[04:36] <Dooood> ...unless you have less patience than a terrier.
[04:36] <Dooood> then it will pick back up....
[04:36] <flaccid> i hate it when you have dsl like that. many possibles reasons...
[04:37] <Dooood> just have patience.
[04:37] <Dooood> Or, go buy the CD.
[04:37] <draik> 1.3MB download as max. Cable was 5MB. :'(
[04:37] <htmldotcom> get cable then
[04:37] <draik> htmldotcom: I'm not the account holder. If I was, DSL would have never happened here.
[04:37] <htmldotcom> who is
[04:38] <Dooood> heck, I get FLAC albums over FTP, at 5.5kB/sec, nd it doesn';t take more than overnight
[04:38] <Dooood> patience
[04:38] <Dooood> simple.
[04:38] <htmldotcom> i get movie trilogies overnightthrouh torrents.
[04:38] <htmldotcom> its great
[04:38] <Radi01> If the torrent does not exceed 50k I cancel.
[04:38] <Dooood> your connection is better than mine, htmldotcom
[04:39] <snarkster> this is nice.. having real sun java..
[04:39] <snarkster> brb
[04:39] <Dooood> I can wait
[04:39] <htmldotcom> yess dooood lol
[04:39] <Dooood> patience.
[04:39] <Dooood> ok, back to the windows maintenance
[04:40] <Radi01> oi
[04:40] <htmldotcom> ugh
[04:40] <htmldotcom> gnight-
[04:40] <Radi01> vista is now adjar.
[04:42] <flaccid> windows maint. = throw out window :p
[04:42] <Radi01> ya
[04:42] <Radi01> 1-800-dask bill
[04:43] <Radi01> ask
[04:43] <Radi01> I cant believe the money I threw away on windows.
[04:43] <flaccid> hehe
[04:44] <Radi01> I actually got 2kpro working quite well when I stumbled onto linux.
[04:45] <emanuel> Hi there. Can kmail be configured so that threads with more recent emails go first?
[04:45] <voila> Hola,alguien habla español?
[04:46] <emanuel> voila: yeah, me.
[04:46] <voila> Hay algun canal Kubuntu en español?
[04:47] <ardchoille> !es | voila
[04:47] <ubotu> voila: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:47] <voila> Muchas gracias
[04:48] <emanuel> There is a typo in that message, it should be "más" instead of "mas". :-)
[04:49] <ardchoille> emanuel: You can join #ubuntu-bots and let them know to change it
[04:49]  * emanuel joins
[04:49] <ardchoille> emanuel: Thank you :)
[04:49] <emanuel> :D
[05:01] <tricky> anyone any solution for mpeg plugin for firefox?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I though the mplayer plugin worked for that..
[05:02] <stuffcorpse> hello, is there a way to stop kate to expand the documents tab upon startup?
[05:04] <tricky> drwillis: i tried mplayer & also xine plugin .. my screen turn black & i have to reboot the box
[05:04] <Dr_willis> sounds to me like a video driver issue there..
[05:04] <tricky> intel i810
[05:04] <ardchoille> Yeah
[05:05] <tricky> old ibm thinkpad r31
[05:09] <eljefe__> http://www.jokosher.org/forums/
[05:09] <eljefe__> oops
[05:09] <eljefe__> how can I launch top in a (new) konsole , with a single command?
[05:11] <emanuel> eljefe__: konsole -e top
[05:11] <eljefe__> thanks!
[05:18] <Dooood> ok, quick question, if I'm on my winXP lappy, and I want to browse the kubuntu machine, it asks for a username and password, what the heck do I type in there?
[05:20] <Dooood> anyone?  Bueller?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> Dooood,   you enabled the home shares for samba?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> also you will need to make a samba  password for the users 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[05:23] <lockd> anyone know when the big kinks in khtml are going to get worked out?
[05:23] <nightdragon> hello
[05:23] <Dooood> um, how do I do that, Dr_willis?
[05:23] <nightdragon> quick question: why should i use kubuntu
[05:23] <nightdragon> like, over ubuntu
[05:23] <Dr_willis> !samba
[05:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:23] <lockd> nightdragon: ubuntu is kubuntu
[05:24] <nightdragon> but with a KDE interface
[05:24] <Dooood> ok
[05:24] <Dr_willis> nightdragon,  install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop and have both...
[05:24] <nightdragon> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> yes. :) #1 Kubuntu Faq.
[05:25] <lockd> is there a reason to use aptitude instead of apt-get?
[05:25] <lockd> or are they by and large the same?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> lockd,  i hear it can make uninstalling stuff easier..
[05:25] <Dr_willis> but ive had... issues with aptitude
[05:25] <nightdragon> ...question 2.... is KDE4 going to be bitchin?
[05:25] <lockd> i've only used aptitude
[05:26] <lockd> nightdragon: I haven't gotten it to work properly
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I had aptitude decide to remove 300 packages once.. then reinstalled them...
[05:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:26] <lockd> ouch
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Still not sure why it wanted to remove them.
[05:26] <lockd> removal is fine, purging the cache is not
[05:27] <Dr_willis> It removed, then reinstalled  when i installed the next item on my list. Heh.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> dident hurt anything., just took a lot of time.
[05:27] <lockd> well, if they weren't in cache it would have, at least for me with my bad conn
[05:28] <lockd> would have taken a decade, after which i would have just reinstalled distro
[05:28] <lockd> or apt-cd
[05:44] <surgy> !beryl
[05:44] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[05:45] <Dooood> ok, Dr_willis, I believe I succeeded in sharing my home folder, but I'm still being asked for a username/password from the lappy
[05:47] <slav3_kitten> quick question
[05:47] <Dooood> why is there air?
[05:47] <slav3_kitten> using dapper install, trying to install fife, scons keeps saying it cant find my python2.4
[05:48] <Dooood> was that quick enough?
[05:48] <slav3_kitten> python2.4-dev is installed and upto date
[05:48] <slav3_kitten> i cant find a python-config anyware on my system
[05:48] <slav3_kitten> and pkg-config says python2.4 is not there
[05:49] <unix_infidel> it's been a while since i've used ubuntu but there's no real different between ubuntu server + kde and kubuntu right?
[05:49] <slav3_kitten> none i'm awaare of
[05:49] <Dooood> hm, sounds like you need someone who knows something.  That leaves me out.....
[05:49] <slav3_kitten> i just need the quick answer
[05:50] <slav3_kitten> because well i'm going in for surgery in 6 hours. an i'm guna be toasted on pain meds after that for about a week. so i best not screw with things while loopy
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Dooood,  also you will need to make a samba  password for the users 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[05:50] <Dooood> aha
[05:50] <lockd> ow, surgery
[05:50] <Dr_willis> or make a public share. :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> but i perfer each user staying in their own place.
[05:51] <Dooood> I thought I made a public share....
[05:51] <Dooood> dang.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> I would guess ya made it wrong then.
[05:51] <Dooood> yeah.
[05:51]  * Dooood sighs
[05:51] <slav3_kitten> emergency tonsilectomy and adnoidectomy. on the plus side i got 60 tabs of tramadol, and 90 tabs of hydrocodon perscribed for the pain
[05:51] <Dooood> ok, a quest for tomorrow, then.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> The 'using samba book' is available in the 'samba-doc' package. It is WELL worth reading some time.
[05:51] <Dooood> My brain is tired again.
[05:51] <surgy> how do you install ubuntu without a windows manager?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> surgy,  with out X - ya can use the server install
[05:52] <syazdani> Yeah! I'm running kde in 1280x800!
[05:52] <surgy> Dr_willis: im wanting to install on a P2, so all the pretty stuff has to go, ALL of it.
[05:52] <Dr_willis> surgy, ive ran Ubuntu on a Pent 1 100.
[05:52] <syazdani> Now does anybody know how to make the broadcam wireless cards to work in gutsy?
[05:53] <surgy> Dr_willis: nice, was it fast?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> Use a real real real light window manager. :) like wm2/fluxbox/icewm/matchbox
[05:53] <slav3_kitten> well i'm thinking of getting rid of kubuntu an going with a lil leaner xubuntu after i'm feeling better
[05:53] <Dr_willis> surgy,  it was useable. :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> all it ran was X a little wm. and a few xterms
[05:53] <slav3_kitten> if you want fast on a really low spec system go with slackware an use fluxbox
[05:53] <hydrogen> or use fluxbuntu..
[05:54] <surgy> Dr_willis: in your opinion is it better to run dosbox, or install dos 6.0 in a virtual box? for playing old games
[05:54] <hydrogen> or any other distro
[05:54] <Dr_willis> I belive wmx, wm2, and jwm are lighter. :)
[05:54] <hydrogen> the distro under it doesn't matter
[05:54] <Dr_willis> surgy,  dosbox does GREAT for old dos games
[05:54] <Dr_willis> surgy,  and its a lot less hassle
[05:54] <surgy> Dr_willis: i have both, and the performance seams the same
[05:55] <Dr_willis> surgy,  i set up scripts/configs in each dos game dir. for specific settings, and made it wasy for me to just launch warlords, or whatever from the command line. :)
[05:55] <surgy> is there a mother board monitoring software suite available to kubuntu?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> surgy,  given how much power   pc's have th4ese days.. :)  Problem can be getting dos workign with the new hardware...
[05:56] <Dooood> Dr_willis: Failed to modify password entry for user <username>
[05:56] <surgy> Dr_willis: i was playing duke3d last night at over 300fps lol
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Dooood, 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' You did use the proper user name? and used sudo.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> surgy,  heh. I loaded that up the other day.. and just couldent stand to play it.
[05:57] <Dooood> I pasted that into the konsole, with the laptop's name
[05:57] <surgy> lol
[05:57] <surgy> actually im fixing to give starcraft a round right now
[05:57] <surgy> wanna join me?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Dooood,  WHAT exactly was the command line you used?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> surgy,  i never could stand those games :) heh heh.. just fast click fests it always seemed to be.
[05:58] <slav3_kitten> i mean my 166mhz toughbook i beat around at work runs slackware with fluxbox really well. even runs openoffice fairly ok
[05:58] <surgy> Dr_willis: lol okay, missing out though, laterz
[05:58] <Dooood> I used:  ~$ sudo smbpasswd -a Kendall-Laptop
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Dooood,  your USER name is 'Kendall-laptop' ? what an odd user name.,
[05:58] <Dooood> ah
[05:58] <Dr_willis> sure its not just 'kdndall' ?
[05:59] <Dooood> ok, gotcha
[05:59] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:59] <Dr_willis> This is when knowing  the FUNdaMENTALS :) comes in so handy. heh
[05:59] <Dr_willis> 'whoami' shows the users name i think :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> willis@MythBox:~(2650.327 Mb)$ whoami
[05:59] <Dr_willis> willis
[05:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Note my Leet Bash Prompt. :)
[06:00] <Dooood> woohoo! thanks, Dr_willis
[06:00] <slav3_kitten> my bash promt shows remaining battery :P
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Mine shows the Amount of files in the current dir. :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> sort of bogs down the prompt when im in a HUGE dir however.
[06:02] <slav3_kitten> lol
[06:03] <slav3_kitten> i spend alot of time in xterm so i figured battery was an important thing to keep an eye on
[06:20] <slav3_kitten> so yea no one has any idea on why scons cant find my python2.4 libs under dapper?
[06:27] <DreadKnight> is there some meta package in order to upgrade to kde4?
[06:28] <DreadKnight> i updated kubuntu to haron, but i also want to update to kde4.. i can't manage to do so... noob.. :D
[06:29] <posingaspopular> DreadKnight: you need to build from SVN iirc
[06:29] <ardchoille> DreadKnight: Wow, an aplha OS and a beta DE, you are either really smart or a glutton for punichment, lol
[06:29] <ardchoille> *punishment
[06:29] <DreadKnight> i have the kde4 packages in adept.. marking them by hand for installation.. :\
[06:30] <DreadKnight> heh :D
[06:30] <DreadKnight> i probably suffer from the "quiet syndrome" as others blogged about it..
[06:40] <slav3_kitten> holy crap i officially need a new battery kitten@kitten-laptop:/proc/acpi/battery/BATA$ cat info
[06:40] <slav3_kitten> present:                 yes
[06:40] <slav3_kitten> design capacity:         60000 mWh
[06:40] <slav3_kitten> last full capacity:      22290 mWh
[06:45] <titanix88> hello
[06:46] <LimCore> slav3_kitten: hah
[06:47] <slav3_kitten> it pisses me off. its a expensive battery
[06:47] <slav3_kitten> 150 bucks for a rebuilt battery pack
[06:47] <slav3_kitten> damn toughbooks
[06:52] <master_> anyone know of any open dns servers i could use?
[06:54] <DreadKnight> master_: check the ununtu magazine.. the latest issue.. the article about installing a ssh server
[06:54] <DreadKnight> ubuntu*
[06:54] <DreadKnight> full circle
[06:55] <master_> DreadKnight: uhm.. an online magazine?  well.. being as I don't have DNS, I cannot get any web page
[06:55] <DreadKnight> it's pdf format
[06:55] <DreadKnight> ok.. wait a sec
[06:56] <Jucato> http://www.opendns.com/
[06:56] <Jucato> "Our nameservers are 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220"
[06:56] <DreadKnight> www.dyndns.com
[06:56] <DreadKnight> i use opendns myself atm
[06:56] <master_> Jucato: thanks!!
[06:57]  * Jucato thinks dyndns is for a different puprose...
[06:57] <master_> DreadKnight: I think I wasn't very clear.. i just needed something to put in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:58] <DreadKnight> :)
[06:59] <master_> :q
[07:00] <master_> (sorry.. thought I was in vi)
[07:02] <DreadKnight> xD
[07:27] <maduser> Hey everyone, whats your take on Apache and Webmin working toghter?
[07:30] <maduser> arg
[07:32] <jalbert> hey can anybody recommend me a wireless card?
[07:32] <jalbert> I'm running Feisty
[07:32] <jalbert> looking for a nice 802.11g card
[07:34] <ardchoille> !webmin
[07:34] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[07:34] <ardchoille> maduser: ^^
[07:35] <maduser> oh
[07:35] <maduser> no wonder
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !hardware | jalbert
[07:35] <ubotu> jalbert: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:38] <maduser> dam .htaccess!
[07:42] <maduser> who here is experieced with .htaccess?
[07:49] <jalbert> Daisuke_Ido: thanks
[07:50] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome, hope you were able to find what you were looking for
[07:50] <jalbert> I'm going to look over it tomorrow
[07:51] <jalbert> I need to get some sleep now
[08:05] <kraut> moin
[08:14] <fay_elf> Anyone have a clue if a celly bk3 bluetooth dongle is supported?
[08:18] <Selanit> Hiya, people.  Question: Konqueror is currently set as the #2 web browser in my application preference order for HTML documents, after Firefox.  In general, this is fine.  But sometimes I want to look at a web page in Konqueror, and when I do I can't click any links because it offers to open them in Firefox.
[08:18] <Selanit> How do I convince Konqueror that it's okay to open HTML documents when i'm using it as a web browser?
[08:21] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[08:23] <whabo> help i need to create my own custum boot screen can any1 help me???? PLZ
[08:24] <fay_elf> Yes.
[08:24] <whabo> hello?
[08:24] <whabo> fay i went to boot options in control center
[08:24] <whabo> and downloaded the file to customize the boot screen
[08:25] <whabo> i created my own .. butr when i save it .. it doesnt show up in the menu
[08:25] <Selanit> Okay, this is bugging me: http://atuan.com/file_association_error.png
[08:25] <whabo> can any1 plz help me
[08:25] <fay_elf> Go to /usr/share/doc/grub/readme.debian.gz
[08:26] <Selanit> I'd like to be able to use Konqueror as a web browser occasionally, even though I prefer Firefox as my default.  But when Firefox is the default web browser, clicking links in Konqueror brings up that dialog.
[08:26] <fay_elf> A manual setup described there is quite easy
[08:26] <whabo> fay_elf thx ill try it
[08:27] <Selanit> This is a side effect of making konqueor do double-duty as a web browser and a file manager, which was never a good idea if you ask me.
[08:27] <Selanit> *konqueror
[08:28] <emilsedgh> Selanit: but if you ask me, Konqueror Rocks! noone forces you to use it as both fileman and web browser
[08:28] <sigma_> whats a good partioning tool for kde? besides Gpart - that has too many gnome dep's for me to handle
[08:28] <flaccid> !info qtparted
[08:28] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[08:29] <fay_elf> Just remember that you need sudo to copy your gzipped file to /boot/grub, and that you can check out your root path from /boot/grub/menu.lst, which you also need to edit (using sudo)
[08:29] <Selanit> emilsedgh:  The point is that it's unusable as a web browser if I have also set Firefox as my default.
[08:29] <emilsedgh> Selanit: Konqueror is the Default Web Browser of me, and many others.
[08:30] <sigma_> flaccid: can that format new partitions as well?
[08:30] <emilsedgh> Selanit: i think the default web browser is just a habit...try konqueror for a week and you cannot get back to firefox
[08:30] <Selanit> emilsedgh: No thank you; I want my Firebug, Web Developer's Toolbar, and many other extensions which simply aren't available for Konqueror.
[08:31] <flaccid> sigma_: yes
[08:31] <Selanit> I would like to be able to TEST my web pages in Konqueror, for the benefit of people who prefer it.  But I'd rather not have it as my default.  And that doesn't appear to be possible at the moment.
[08:31] <emilsedgh> Selanit: yes, im a web developer too and the only thing that i miss are web dev toolbar and firebug.i know many people who need these tools and they love to switch to konqueror but they cant because of these tools
[08:32] <fay_elf> Did you who asked about grub boot image get the idea?
[08:34] <sigma_> flaccid: thanks just downloaded it - looks great and has all da features i need
[08:34] <flaccid> wicked
[08:35] <sigma_> has anyone played vdrift on kubuntu here?
[08:36] <flaccid> !find vdrift
[08:37] <ubotu> Package/file vdrift does not exist in gutsy
[08:38] <sigma_> flaccid: ya i know its not in the repo's for some odd reason
[08:40] <sigma_> heres a question - i uninstalled strigi desktop search by mistake, how do i install it again without re-downloading it? can i get it from the gutsy cd somehow?
[08:41] <flaccid> their wiki is not good
[08:41] <flaccid> !apt-cd
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <flaccid> yeah change your sources to cd
[08:43] <sigma_> i did that but what next?
[08:45] <flaccid> !info strigi
[08:45] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in gutsy
[08:45] <flaccid> one sec
[08:45] <flaccid> !find strigi
[08:45] <ubotu> Found: libstrigihtmlgui-dev, libstrigihtmlgui0, libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev, libstrigiqtdbusclient0, strigi-applet (and 5 others)
[08:45] <flaccid> !info strigi-applet
[08:45] <ubotu> strigi-applet: KDE applet for Strigi Desktop Search. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.6-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 103 kB, installed size 416 kB
[08:45] <flaccid> install that and its deps should be the daemon i would assume
[08:48] <sigma_> ok seem to have it kinda working - i use firefox as my default browser whenever i try search in strigi a box pops up asking if i want to open the file in firefox, how do i stop this?
[08:49] <flaccid> not sure, i don't use it sorry
[09:00] <boguh> is there ubuntu style (colors, background etc) for kubuntu?
[09:00] <onyx> when trying to boot gutsy on my laptop about the farthest it will go is loading hardware devices? i dont know what to do?
[09:00] <Myrth[home]> hi, apt-get -f install gives errors, one of them is: "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/apps/phonon-xine.png', which is also in package kde4base-data" - how can i fix apt registry?
[09:01] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | Myrth[home]
[09:01] <ubotu> Myrth[home]: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[09:01] <Myrth[home]> thank you! :)
[09:01] <Myrth[home]> ouch didn't work :(
[09:02] <stdin> Myrth[home]: add other broken packages to the command
[09:02] <Myrth[home]> the ones that go after Depends: or before?
[09:02] <stdin> before
[09:03] <Myrth[home]> cool that worked
[09:03] <Myrth[home]> so, no kde4?
[09:03] <stdin> you can install it now, that cleaned the install
[09:04] <stdin> just follow the instructions on the kubuntu.org announcement and you can install it
[09:07] <lapin_> bonjour
[09:07] <stdin> hello
[09:44] <bazzieb> i need help formatting an external HDD. How do i do it??
[09:45] <rgnr> hlp ppl!
[09:48] <rgnr> рhelp
[09:58] <meduxa> hi all, I have feisty fawn in a computer. I want to install krecordmydesktop or any similar app but it is not included in universe or multiverse repository
[09:59] <Jucato> meduxa: yeah. krecordmydesktop was only packaged for Gutsy (current stable release)
[09:59] <meduxa> does anybody knows where can I install it from (if it is packed for ubuntu?
[09:59] <Jucato> I'm not sure if feisty-backports has it
[09:59] <meduxa> humm I'll try, thanks
[09:59] <Jucato> !info krecordmydesktop feisty-backports
[09:59] <ubotu> Package krecordmydesktop does not exist in feisty-backports
[09:59] <Jucato> nope, only in gutsy
[10:00] <meduxa> is there any tech problem that causes that or is only a matter of manpower
[10:00] <meduxa> ?
[10:01] <Jucato> I don't know :)
[10:01] <Jucato> meduxa: there might be some technical problems, like krecordmydesktop requiring newer version of libraries or packages that could cause some breakage in feisty
[10:01] <Jucato> maybe... not sure
[10:02] <meduxa> ok, lets see if I find somebody that takes a look at that, thanks
[10:03] <Jucato> meduxa: #ubuntu-motu
[10:03] <fdoving> it probably only needs a recompile in feisty.
[10:03] <Jucato> oh there! someone who knows :)
[10:03]  * Jucato whistles innocently
[10:04] <fdoving> i don't know, i'm guessing :)
[10:04] <Jucato> :D
[10:05] <meduxa> ok
[10:07] <Myrth[home]> hm... dpkg: error processing kdm-kde4 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:08] <fdoving>  /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.postinst failed.
[10:08] <fdoving> you can run: sh -ex /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.potinst
[10:08] <fdoving> to see what fails.
[10:08] <fdoving> that is kdm-kde4.postinst
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> y0y0y0, sorry to sound n00b but http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php confused me.
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> Like, could some1 explain it to me in laymans terms?
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> I don't mind private
[10:11] <Myrth[home]> fdoving: thanks, this ran without problem
[10:12] <Myrth[home]> fdoving: but apt-get -f install gives same error
[10:12] <fdoving> Myrth[home]: then the 'sh -ex' thing proibably failed silently too. exited with error status 1.
[10:13] <Myrth[home]> fdoving: last line was sh -ex /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm-kde4.potinst
[10:13] <fdoving> Myrth[home]: is that the rc1 packages?
[10:13] <Myrth[home]> fdoving: last line was + exec /usr/share/debconf/frontend ./kdm-kde4.postinst
[10:13] <Myrth[home]> yes
[10:17] <fdoving> Myrth[home]: you can cheat. you can add 'exit 0' directly after "set -e" in the postinst script.
[10:18] <Myrth[home]> you mean this script is not necessary?
[10:18] <fdoving> well.. it can be nice, but it's not needed.
[10:19] <fdoving> it will ask you which displaymanager you want as default, but i guess you don't want kdm4 as your default anyway.
[10:19] <Myrth[home]> thanks
[10:19] <Myrth[home]> fdoving: i don't? :) cuz i chose
[10:19] <Myrth[home]> i guess will go back to gdm
[10:20] <fdoving> if you want it, then use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' you can select kdm or others from there too.
[10:21] <Myrth[home]> why i don't want kdm-kde4?
[10:21] <Myrth[home]> is it badly broken?
[10:21] <fdoving> Myrth[home]: no idea. might be shiny and stable. i don't know.
[10:24] <F3000> !fi
[10:24] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[10:24] <F3000> Thank you.
[10:32] <Stevethepirate> Someone.. rough guess at size of kde4?
[10:33] <F3000> !wifi
[10:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> !kde4
[10:33] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> !kde4 size
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde4 size - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Stevethepirate> ...
[10:34] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: hi.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !kde4
[10:34] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: heya, I see you like Dodgeball the movie :D
[10:34] <Stevethepirate> Um. wtf?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: Steve the pirate is a character in Dodgeball starring Vince Vaugn
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> Yes.
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> And?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: just noticing your handle, thats all, jeez
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> :P
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> luls.
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> last time someone spammed my nick
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> I pm'ed an admin
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> and showed fake logs
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> of him spamming me with child pr0n sites
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> was luls.
[10:37] <Myrth[home]> hm... i didn't really understand kde4..
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> Myrth[home]: huhs?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Myrth[home]: in what way?
[10:37] <Myrth[home]> just installed tried running it
[10:37] <Myrth[home]> is that interface a finished thing?
[10:38] <trpr> no :p
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Myrth[home]: its official release is the 11th or 12th December
[10:38] <Myrth[home]> mm.. isn't release candidate between beta and stable?
[10:38] <Jucato> nope
[10:38] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: moved to January
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: oh man :(
[10:38] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: yeah, but there's RC1 and RC2 coming soon
[10:38] <_dac_> what does :p mean ?
[10:39] <Jucato> sticking your tongue out
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> _dac_: turn your head to the left
[10:39] <Jucato> O.o
[10:39] <trpr> ...
[10:39] <Myrth[home]> i mean huge applets - is that a nod towards vista or gnome?
[10:39] <Jucato> huh?
[10:39] <_dac_> still don't know...
[10:39] <Jucato> huge applets?
[10:40] <Myrth[home]> well first thing i see is half a screen battery meter
[10:40] <Jucato> _dac_: sticking your tongue out at a person, as a form of defiance or joke
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> _dac_: the ':' are eyes and the 'P' is a sticky out tongue
[10:40] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: you haven't heard of karamba/superkaramba have you?
[10:40] <Myrth[home]> nope
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> _dac_: put em together to get :P its a bit like :D or :)
[10:40] <_dac_> ok..
[10:40] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: they have been around longer than Vista
[10:41] <trpr> _dac_: have you been living under a rock or what ;)
[10:41] <Jucato> desktop applets are nothing new
[10:41] <trpr> fyi, that's a wink
[10:41] <Myrth[home]> then i tried adding more applets
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> They are new to windos users
[10:41] <Myrth[home]> and they just got stretched out and stuck in tray
[10:41] <_dac_> yes,perhaps I'm a 61 year old man
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> mind you so is tabbed web browsing
[10:42] <Myrth[home]> and no right click, etc
[10:42] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: if you're using the rc1 packages... that's quite old and not updated
[10:42] <Jucato> a lot of fixes have been made since then
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> _dac_: perhaps ur a 14 year old delinquint
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> :P
[10:42] <Myrth[home]> that's the latest update, followed by last blog in kubuntu.org
[10:43] <Myrth[home]> upgraded just now
[10:43] <_dac_> born i 1946...
[10:43] <Jucato> Myrth[home]: no. the *latest* update is from SVN
[10:43] <Myrth[home]> Jucato:
[10:43] <Myrth[home]> ah
[10:43]  * stdin is working on that ^
[10:43] <Myrth[home]> i see
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> stdin: y0.
[10:43] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: ask stdin your kde4 package questions :)
[10:43] <stdin> hey :)
[10:44] <Jucato> he's the guy to thank for those packages :)
[10:44] <Stevethepirate> How recent is http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[10:44] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: i know
[10:44] <stdin> it's RC1
[10:44] <Stevethepirate> hence i'm asking
[10:44] <Stevethepirate> Okay.
[10:44] <Jucato> 2 weeks+ old
[10:44] <stdin> I'm working on some recent svn packages though
[10:44] <Jucato> and for a fast moving target like KDE4, that's very old
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: indeed, I know this.
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> stdin: well, i'm about to install.
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> Should I wait a short while?
[10:45] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: that wasn't just for you :)
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> Until new changings in svn are merged?
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: sorry, I'm an attention seeking brat :P
[10:46] <stdin> Stevethepirate: no point in waiting, I'm only just beginning to package the svn version now and I can't be sure it'll even build yet
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> ahh
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> RC3 estimate?
[10:46] <Myrth[home]> stdin: is it going to be better than 3.5? :)
[10:47] <stdin> Myrth[home]: depends what you mean by "better"
[10:47] <Stevethepirate> You should edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 to include the RCx for x E Z, x>0
[10:47] <stdin> Stevethepirate: eww, wikipedia :p just use http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[10:47] <Myrth[home]> stdin: evolution wise :)
[10:47] <Stevethepirate> stdin: A lot of people use wikipedia :P
[10:47] <stdin> Myrth[home]: it'll be newer, and it'll have more features...
[10:48] <stdin> Stevethepirate: yeah, but I don't edit it. I spend too much time editing the ubuntu wiki, don't want to work on another too
[10:48] <Myrth[home]> stdin: is it going to have a compact theme?
[10:48] <Stevethepirate> Um, where it says "To run it as a full session install kdm-kde4 " does it mean, do that in addition to apt-getting the "kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev .." or on its own
[10:49] <stdin> Stevethepirate: I'm actually pretty sure you don't need kdm-kde4
[10:49] <Stevethepirate> Why is that?
[10:49] <Stevethepirate> Is it just extra packages that I may not have
[10:49] <fdoving> you only need one .desktop file from the package, you can also easily use the one from kde3.
[10:49] <fdoving> with modifications.
[10:49] <Myrth[home]> stdin: is it going to be heavier than 3.5? (memory, cpu)
[10:50] <stdin> Stevethepirate: if you have /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop without installing it, then you don't need it
[10:50] <stdin> Myrth[home]: should be faster with Qt4
[10:50] <Stevethepirate> stdin: kk
[10:50] <Myrth[home]> that's good :)
[10:50] <Stevethepirate> I doubt I have that file
[10:51] <stdin> Stevethepirate: after installing the other packages first
[10:51] <Myrth[home]> stdin: where are you on the splash photo? :)
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> Kk
[10:51] <stdin> Myrth[home]: heh, I'm not on that. I'm not a KDE developer
[10:51] <stdin> (yet)
[10:51] <Stevethepirate> stdin: could you guess the size of kde4 for gutsy?
[10:52] <Stevethepirate> [download size]
[10:52] <naught103> is firefox always a memory hog?
[10:52] <Myrth[home]> when i just downloaded it was abt 110M
[10:52] <Stevethepirate> yeah
[10:52] <Stevethepirate> Myrth[home]: how longs ago?
[10:52] <Myrth[home]> an hour
[10:53] <Stevethepirate> Hmm
[10:53] <Stevethepirate> 110meg
[10:53] <Stevethepirate> lets hope I don't get capped
[10:53] <Stevethepirate> 4Q'ing telkom monopolistic bastards
[10:54] <Myrth[home]> oh crap 3am
[10:54] <Myrth[home]> bye everybody :P
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> seeya Myrth[home]
[10:55] <sebastian^> hmm really really boring day :-/
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: tell me about it. not done much at work all day
[10:57] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: what can i tell you ... nothing to do, everything is up and running, no problems no interesting things
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: same here. just chillin
[10:58] <sebastian^> no phone calls, no e-mails
[10:58] <sebastian^> :)
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: I dont get calls. I get emails from servers when they get scared
[10:59] <sebastian^> same to me, but i think you know customers who are faster than any monitoring system ;)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: I dont talk to customers :D:D
[10:59] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: hmm ok, thats a great beneficial
[10:59] <FlashWolf> lol
[10:59] <FlashWolf> woke up
[11:00] <FlashWolf> since yesterday
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: give me some IPs and some passwords and i'll make you some problems if you want :)
[11:00] <FlashWolf> downloading kubuntu
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> FlashWolf: are you getting it via torrents?
[11:00] <FlashWolf> if my connection would be a guy, i'd kill him
[11:00] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: hmm no thanks, i will coming back to you when my coffee is empty
[11:00] <FlashWolf> ActionParsnip: yp
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> cat coffee > /mnt/sebastian^/cup
[11:01] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: but i have antother problem with my wireless on my laptop, after test to set an ip i can't see any wlans in knetworkmanager :)
[11:01] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: thx :)
[11:02] <FlashWolf> ActionParsnip: but i should be downloading it, via torrent, by _at least_ 64kb/s
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: you tried it with static IP?
[11:02] <sebastian^> yep, because of some testing
[11:03] <FlashWolf> the connection in the city i am is not good. and now the servers are down
[11:03] <allbert> anyone seems to get gamil worked on konqueror?
[11:03] <sebastian^> after this i set dhcp in knetworkmanager but like i said, no wlans where found any more
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> FlashWolf: :( grr
[11:03] <FlashWolf> ActionParsnip: :T
[11:03] <sebastian^> and knetworkmanager shows me a really strange ip ... 169.254.....
[11:04] <FlashWolf> at least, just ~20min to get kubuntu downloaded
[11:04] <FlashWolf> i was using xubuntu, but didnt liked so much
[11:04] <stdin> sebastian^: that would be because it didn't get a DHCP response so it have you an avahi address
[11:04] <FlashWolf> very very simple
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: try recreating /etc/network/interfaces
[11:05] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: why recreate ...
[11:05] <sebastian^> /msg ActionParsnip
[11:05] <sebastian^> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[11:05] <sebastian^> auto eth1
[11:06] <sebastian^> hmpf
[11:06] <FlashWolf> sebastian^: to correct some _possible_ net interface errors
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: is eth1 your wireless?
[11:07] <FlashWolf> hey  guys, someone here already used Aptana on linux
[11:07] <FlashWolf> ?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: its good to recreate so that the network settings get reset to zero
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: sudo cp the file to a backup name then empty the file
[11:10] <lacero> i would like to say thank you to trevinho
[11:13] <FlashWolf> lacero: about compiz-fusion?
[11:13] <lacero> about all his repo
[11:14] <sebastian^> brb in some minutes folks :9
[11:18] <FlashWolf> oooh... 5 minutes...
[11:26] <sebastian^> great great
[11:27] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: deleting the interfaces and everything is up and running :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: told you man, best way :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> sebastian^: glad its all groovy :D
[11:30] <Lols> !kde4
[11:30] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[11:30] <francesco> hi guys..How can I modifify the font tichness ? I prefer the font body bigger than usual. Can someone help me ?
[11:30] <poison--> mornin
[11:31] <francesco>  hi guys..How can I modifify the font tichness ? I prefer the font body bigger than usual. Can someone help me ?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> francesco: the font in what? The desktop?
[11:35] <francesco> ok that's my problem. I use thunderbird and the font verdana to compose messages. What I see, with Kubuntu, is a very tick font. I enabled anti-alias and I use sub-pixel-hinting. Under KDE the font looks very well.
[11:37] <sebastian^> ActionParsnip: right right
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> francesco: tools -> options then font tab (?)
[11:38] <francesco> under thunderbird or kontrol center ?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> thunderbird itself
[11:39] <francesco> in order to use verdana font in thunderbird I modified the user.css file...
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> francesco: i dont know that far. It just worked for me
[11:43] <FlashWolf|out> thk u, stdin. but i think i can change my nick when i need.
[11:43] <stdin> FlashWolf|out: it's channel policy NOT to
[11:43] <FlashWolf|out> but there's the 'away' thing... really...
[11:43] <FlashWolf|out> thnk u
[11:43] <stdin> yea, you /away  silently
[11:43] <stdin> without changing nicks
[11:44] <francesco> Sorry..I try to put the question in other wods. How can I modified the tichness of fonts , undex xfs or fontconfig?  I mean font weight, font attribute or other stuff
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> francesco: not sure, sorry
[12:01] <chjunior> ok, I've got already installed emerald and compiz, but how to activate them?
[12:02] <NickPresta> chjunior, hit Alt + F2, type in "emerald && compiz --replace".
[12:04] <CrocoJet> hi all
[12:05] <CrocoJet> how do I know if I am using kubuntu 7.10 ?
[12:05] <stdin> !version
[12:05] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[12:05] <CrocoJet> ok, let me try
[12:06] <CrocoJet> thanks
[12:08] <dunar> salve a tutti
[12:08] <dunar> ok sono solo
[12:08] <stdin> !fr
[12:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:08] <stdin> slow bot..
[12:11] <ninjagambit> ok i downloaded the kbuntu live cd i burned the image at 8x checked the disk in the boot menu
[12:11] <ninjagambit> i have burned 3 disk all with errors
[12:11] <ninjagambit> how do i check the download file for errors
[12:12] <stdin> check the md5sum
[12:12] <stdin> !md5sum
[12:12] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[12:12] <ninjagambit> ok thanks
[12:29] <mips> what do I have to install in Ubuntu in order to have Archiving options in Konqueror ?
[12:30] <mips> Anyone ?
[12:35] <factorx_> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu by installing Ubuntu and doing "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" but now my K-Menu is cluttered with all that Ubuntu stuff I don't need anymore. How can I deinstall all that Gnome stuff? "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" does not pull any deps
[12:36] <stdin> factorx_: "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[12:37] <factorx_> stdin: that doesn't pull any deps as well
[12:37] <factorx_> ubuntu-desktop is the only package that will be removed
[12:37] <FlashWolf> installing kubuntu: be right back :D
[12:38] <stdin> factorx_: try "sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop", if that doesn't work reinstall ubuntu-desktop and do "sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop"
[12:41] <factorx_> stdin: both didn't work :(
[12:42] <eshat> i just installed compiz-kde ,... how do i start it ,,... where can i find the setting for it ,.. typing: compiz works ,...
[12:43] <sorcerer> hey, all, i have a little problem with my graphic card, can anyone help me?
[12:48] <infosistemx> hi all
[12:48] <infosistemx> need a quickie
[12:49] <infosistemx> I have java 1.4.x and java 1.6.x installed
[12:49] <infosistemx> how do I set 1.6 as default
[12:49] <infosistemx> _
[12:49] <infosistemx> ?
[12:51] <bosnianboy> hi all
[12:52] <bosnianboy> how do I update-locale java to version 1.6.0
[12:52] <bosnianboy> there is 1.4.0 installed
[12:56] <bosnianboy> tnx 4 help of the comunnity :)
[12:58] <stdin> bosnianboy: try "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[13:00] <Tuxthepenguin> how can i remove ubuntu
[13:00] <ubuntu_> guest
[13:08] <drkns> hello
[13:08] <drkns> i am trying to delete a file from my usb external hdd and i cant remove it from my trash gives me access denied msg
[13:09] <drkns> i am using kubuntu 7.10
[13:09] <drkns> any help will be appreciated
[13:10] <[ifr0g]> I just made my pc a domain controller, but i cant ping <domain_name>, But <comp_name>.<domain_name> works..
[13:10] <stdin> drkns: running this command should fix it "sudo chown -R ${USER}: ~/.local/share/Trash/"
[13:10] <ninjagambit> can someone post that link for the md5sum help again
[13:10] <ninjagambit> plz
[13:11] <stdin> !md5sum
[13:11] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[13:11] <ninjagambit> thanks
[13:12] <drkns> stdin nothing happened
[13:13] <stdin> drkns: try emptying your trash now
[13:13] <drkns> Access denied to /media/home-2/.Trash-1000/files/ndiswrapper-1.49/driver/.tmp_versions/ndiswrapper.mod.
[13:13] <stdin> ahh, trash on another partition...
[13:14] <stdin> drkns: similar command "sudo chown -R ${USER}:  /media/home-2/.Trash-1000"
[13:14] <drkns> how did trash ended up in another partition??
[13:14] <drkns> this worked thns
[13:14] <drkns> thx
[13:14] <stdin> np
[13:15] <drkns> this file was in my external usb drive
[13:15] <drkns>  is that why?
[13:15] <stdin> possibly
[13:18] <drkns> thx and bye
[13:31] <ninjagambit> where do you get the md5sum to check you md5sum against
[13:31] <ninjagambit> for kubuntu live
[13:32] <ninjagambit> gutsy
[13:32] <Jucato> the download page where you got the ISO should have it
[13:32] <Jucato> the filename would be MD5SUM
[13:32] <ninjagambit> i got iso here http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/gutsy/desktop/
[13:34] <Radi01> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[13:36] <PolitikerNEU> How to I manage to let the symlinks in ~/bin be executed no matter if there are other symlinks anywhere else?
[13:39] <normie> hello
[13:40] <normie> has anyone succesfully got their broadcom1390 wireless card working?
[13:42] <ksal> hi!
[13:42] <ksal> is there something like wishlist on kubuntu?
[13:44] <RogueJediX> ksal: There's a category for it on launchpad
[13:45] <normie> has anyone succesfully got their broadcom1390 wireless card working?
[13:46] <skyfalcon866> how do i make so the applications on desktop 1 wont show up on desktop 2
[13:48] <xevil> normie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[13:50] <normie> xevil  i tried it but it doesn't work, don;t know what i'm doing wrong
[13:57] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: you still alive?
[13:57]  * Jucato checks his pulse... nope...
[13:57] <Stevethepirate> Um.
[13:57] <Jucato> what can I do for you?
[13:58] <Stevethepirate> Just saying hi.
[13:58] <Stevethepirate> :P
[13:59] <Jucato> heh hi :)
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> moment of truth
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> about to g0g0g0
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> is there a way to screen a current terminaly?
[14:01] <Stevethepirate> *-y
[14:02] <Stevethepirate> @ Jucato or world
[14:02] <aless> ola
[14:02] <Stevethepirate> Like
[14:02] <Stevethepirate> I'm in konsole
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> running irssi
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> can i like pause the screen
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> *task
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> attach or create a screen
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> and resume the process
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> so that later
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> when i kill the terminal
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> i can resume it
[14:03] <Stevethepirate> by reattaching a screeen?
[14:04] <Stevethepirate> ...?
[14:05] <Jucato> !info screen
[14:05] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> ..
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> ..... i know of that.
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> lol
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> its just
[14:07] <Stevethepirate> that I know not how to screen a currently running process
[14:08] <jhutchins> Stevethepirate: I don't know of a way to do that.  All I know how to do is to start screen before you start the app.
[14:08]  * Jucato nods...
[14:08] <jhutchins> Stevethepirate: You could try backgrounding the app, then foregrounding it in screen, let me test that...
[14:09] <jhutchins> no, doesn't work.
[14:10] <Stevethepirate> jhutchins: yeha.. i normally do that.
[14:10] <Stevethepirate> Sigh
[14:10] <Stevethepirate> in that case.. bbias
[14:11] <Stevethepirate> ...
[14:11]  * Stevethepirate is now screened in life
[14:11] <yuanjin> Hey
[14:15] <CrocoJet> exist one way to setup firewall in Kubuntu ?
[14:17] <pfein> any tips on using konq with a dark color theme?  A lot of webpages seem to set the text color to <darkish> but not the background, leaving them unreadable...
[14:20] <CrocoJet> exist some front-end to manipulate iptables for kubuntu ?
[14:22] <Radi01> guard dog
[14:25] <ere4si> !gaurddog
[14:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaurddog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:25] <ere4si> !guarddog
[14:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks :) ...coffee !
[14:34]  * ActionParsnip would love a coffee
[14:35] <Jucato> look for genii, then :)
[14:35]  * BluesKaj hands out steaming mugs of coffee to all
[14:35]  * Jucato magically transforms his into a mug of milk tea
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Jucato, i always thought you had a touch of magic in you :)
[14:36] <Jucato> :D
[14:39] <TheGateKeeper> gutsy 7.10 isn't an lts version is it?
[14:39] <Jucato> nope
[14:39] <Dragonath> nope
[14:39] <Jucato> the next one is
[14:39] <Jucato> 8.04 Hardy Heron
[14:39] <TheGateKeeper> k thanks
[14:40] <BluesKaj> hardy alpha is out for testing if you're feeling adventurous
[14:40] <Dragonath> any keyboard shortcut for locking session?
[14:41] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+L
[14:41] <Dragonath> thanks
[14:41] <Jucato> (you can set it to whatever you want of course)
[14:41] <Dragonath> nah that will just complicate things - the less keyboard shortcuts I have to change from defaults, the less I have to deal with configuring new installs :)
[14:42] <Jucato> :)
[14:44] <Stevethepirate> ...
[14:44] <Stevethepirate> How can i change the resolution
[14:44] <Stevethepirate> of my PC
[14:44] <Stevethepirate> its link forking small
[14:44] <Stevethepirate> and i can't see the tiny font
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !fixres | Stevethepirate
[14:44] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:44] <Stevethepirate> to change the resolution
[14:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter
[14:44] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:45] <Stevethepirate> Sighs.
[14:45] <Stevethepirate> I can't open that link
[14:45] <Stevethepirate> This is a ssh'ed connectiona
[14:45] <Stevethepirate> and the pc lacks links
[14:45] <Stevethepirate> could you spam here what to do?
[14:45] <Eduardiyo> please, a application same to paintbrush to copy images captured by "Impr Pant Pet sis" ???
[14:45]  * Jucato points Stevethepirate to the command part of the factoid...
[14:46] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: .. wtf?
[14:46] <Jucato> Eduardiyo: kolourpaint for a simpler one
[14:46] <Jucato> !xconfig | Stevethepirate
[14:46] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[14:46] <Eduardiyo> ok thanks jucato
[14:47] <zyp1> Hello, I wonder about using RC1, but I wonder; 1: is it stable enough to not crash my system unusable? 2: can I upgrade from gutsy without problems and without a cd?
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: theres no way i'm repackaging it..
[14:47] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: what are you talking about?
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> getting it working was a mission enough
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> Like.
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> I'm using a 42" plasma
[14:47] <Jucato> zyp1: rc1 of what?
[14:47] <zyp1> kubuntu
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> so i need like 800x600
[14:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Stevethepirate: could you stop using the enter key every 2 words please it makes reading annoying and causes unnessacery scrolling
[14:47] <zyp1> hardy
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> or 1024x768
[14:47] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: where in the world did you get the idea of repackaging?
[14:47] <Jucato> !enter | Stevethepirate
[14:47] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:47] <zyp1> meaning alpha:-)
[14:47] <Stevethepirate> JESUS
[14:47] <Jucato> zyp1: no
[14:47]  * genii pops in since his ears are burning to hand out coffees
[14:48] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: i mean dpkg-reconfiguring..
[14:48]  * ActionParsnip gladly accepts coffee
[14:48] <Stevethepirate> ssh me some.. kkthankx
[14:48] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: that's not repackaging
[14:48] <Stevethepirate> I know
[14:48] <Stevethepirate> its been a long day
[14:48] <Stevethepirate> :(
[14:48]  * ActionParsnip is confused by the flow in here
[14:49] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: like.. surely theres a way.. to press "change_the_res 800x600"
[14:49] <Stevethepirate> or something?
[14:49] <Jucato> long story short: Stevethepirate: dpkg-reconfigure doesn't mean repackaging. zyp1: alpha1 never ever means "stable enough". genii: hand out those coffee mugs
[14:49] <Stevethepirate> LOL
[14:49] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: I thought you were in ssh? System Settings ->  Monitor & Display
[14:49] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: Sighs
[14:50]  * genii puts on an extra large pot of strong coffee
[14:50] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: I CAN'T READ THE TEXT THAT IS 0.4mm small.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: if you use the  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command
[14:50] <Stevethepirate> sighs
[14:50]  * BluesKaj gulps his 2nd cup 
[14:50] <pteague_work> i'm guessing i'm needing either nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new, not both...
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: then you will be walked through a wizardlike thingy
[14:50] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: hi again btw.
[14:50] <luigi> !it
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: werd
[14:50] <Stevethepirate> I know.
[14:50] <Jucato> [22:48] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: like.. surely theres a way.. to press "change_the_res 800x600" <--- Launch System Settings, go to Monitor & Display
[14:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:50] <Stevethepirate> I've done that about 100 times
[14:50]  * Stevethepirate cries
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: what gfx card you on?
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> nvidia 7600gtx
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[14:51] <genii> Stevethepirate: I have the 7600gt
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: yeah
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> I'll reconfigure
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> -but
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> -\
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> this could cause uber kak
[14:51] <Stevethepirate> bbias
[14:51] <Jucato> ...
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: and when you run through the config you choose the nvidia driver and not nv
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: do us a past thingy of your xorg.conf
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: *paste
[14:52] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin | Stevethepirate
[14:52] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:52] <Jucato> have you even tried any of the suggestions?
[14:52]  * Jucato sighs...
[14:52] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: sighs.. when i get x working again.
[14:52] <Stevethepirate> I will.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: just rename the first xorg.conf your system made back to xorg.conf
[14:55]  * genii hands Jucato a strong coffee and some aspirin to go with it
[14:55] <Jucato> can you pop me two of those?
[14:55] <Jucato> aspirins I mean...
[14:55] <genii> Jucato: :)
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> !aspirin
[14:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aspirin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> bah
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> Sighs
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> !ssh_me_some_coffee
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> Hey..
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> Okay.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ...?
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> Fixed the resolution
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> but the text is still forking tiny.
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> Like
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> 2 mm
[14:57] <Stevethepirate> on the screen
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: then make it slightly lower
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> I've tried
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> 640x480
[14:58]  * genii removes the cotton ball from the aspirin bottle and takes out a couple for jucato
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Stevethepirate, you really like that enter key don't you ?
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> --> 1280x1024
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> BluesKaj: I'm an addict
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> in fact
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> I had to replace it
[14:58] <Jucato> Stevethepirate: then please stop it
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> Sighs
[14:58] <Stevethepirate> funkillers :(
[14:58] <BluesKaj> you can get kicked for that
[14:58] <Jucato> it's not fun having to see incomplete sentences on multiple lines
[14:59] <Stevethepirate> Jucato: sighs.. kk.
[14:59] <Stevethepirate> But, will you spam me [in kde4] how to change text size
[14:59] <BluesKaj> if yer using pidgin or some small text page ...widen it
[14:59] <Stevethepirate> Tiny irssi in tty1
[14:59] <BluesKaj> widen the terminal then
[15:00] <Stevethepirate> BluesKaj: can't.. this is Ctrl-Alt-F1..
[15:00] <Stevethepirate> text only.. trying to get text size right in  KDE4.. then it'll be fine..
[15:00] <Radi01> Thats what gangster rap does: it steals your intellect.
[15:01] <Stevethepirate> Anyone: changing text size.. in KDE4.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> rap ain't music melody wise ...it's just a chant or a bunch of punks yelling rhymes
[15:02] <Radi01> Exactly.
[15:02] <Radi01> Brain dead idiocy.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> agreed
[15:03] <joseph> unless you're talking about Bell Biv Devoe
[15:03] <Radi01> Hollywood endorsed it and glamorized it as to digress society.
[15:04] <Stevethepirate> BluesKaj: help plz?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> no joseph , it includes anyone who yells words into mic
[15:05] <Radi01> When one culture has to imitate another: It has willfully given away its identity.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Stevethepirate, how?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Stevethepirate, what are you trying now ?
[15:07] <Stevethepirate> Like.
[15:08] <Stevethepirate> Changing the resolution makes no difference to the text size...
[15:08] <Abdullah> selam
[15:08] <Stevethepirate> So, changing res. makes no difference to the size of the text. Which is like 0.2mm tallk.
[15:08] <Stevethepirate> *tall
[15:08] <Stevethepirate> on a 42" plasma
[15:08] <Stevethepirate> Its unreadable.
[15:09] <joseph> BluesKaj: BBD do not yell words into mic
[15:09] <joseph> but that's off topic.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Stevethepirate, the best thing to do is get on the desktop , system settings/appearance/fonts and reset them  to your liking
[15:10] <sxe> hi
[15:11] <sxe> hey, has anybody installed the new flash version from this location? www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer
[15:11] <Stevethepirate> You running KDE4 by any chance?
[15:11] <Stevethepirate> @ BluesKaj
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !hi | sxe
[15:11] <ubotu> sxe: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:11] <sxe> it say its version 9.0.115.0 but after installation its still version r48 on firefox
[15:11] <Stevethepirate> coz the text is too small for me to even read the menu
[15:11] <Stevethepirate> its -tiny-
[15:12] <pfein> any tips on using konq with a dark color theme?  A lot of webpages seem to set the text color to <darkish> but not the background, leaving them unreadable...
[15:12]  * BluesKaj prefers the light 
[15:13] <Radi01> Has seen the lite.
[15:16] <Stevethepirate> BluesKaj: no response?
[15:17] <madMadam_myr> hi!
[15:17] <madMadam_myr> :)
[15:17] <madMadam_myr> is there anyone who uses kde?
[15:18] <emilsedgh> madMadam_myr: almost everyone
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Stevethepirate, dunno how to help , sorry :(
[15:18] <madMadam_myr> do you know how I can add utf8 package?
[15:18] <madMadam_myr> and also other packages...
[15:19] <emilsedgh> utf8?
[15:19] <emilsedgh> madMadam_myr: tell us exactly what you want to do?
[15:19] <patricio> I seem to be very stuck: I have the HP Color Laserjet 1500 L, which seems not to be supported by ubuntu, I googled something called foo2oak, but I don't know if that is trustworthy and I don't know if that works. Please #kubuntu: PIMP MY PRINTER! :)
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> well..if i try these rows:
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage[italian]{babel}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage{hyperref}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage{float}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> i get
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage[italian]{babel}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage{hyperref}
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> \usepackage{float}
[15:20] <BluesKaj> patricio, tell us what you've done so far
[15:20] <Jucato> !flood | madMadam_myr
[15:20] <ubotu> madMadam_myr: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> ops I get
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/babel/italian.ldf:0: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for(babel) the language `Italian'(babel) I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead.
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty:2237:Undefined control sequence. \ProcessKeyvalOptions
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty:2237:Missing \begin{document}. \ProcessKeyvalOptions{H
[15:20] <madMadam_myr> ./tesina.tex:9:File `float.sty' not found. ^^M
[15:21] <patricio> BluesKaj: I followed http://foo2oak.rkkda.com/ and read linuxprinting.org(no help) and found some desperate other guys in forums *g
[15:23] <patricio> BluesKaj: But as said, this is third party stuff and I don't trust it
[15:24] <madMadam_myr> sorry i didn't know pastebin
[15:24] <madMadam_myr> i've just used it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46835/plain/
[15:25] <eshat> there was a dpkg option to find out which package installed file x, does anyone remeber or know ?
[15:25] <stdin> eshat: dpkg -S
[15:25] <BluesKaj> patricio, whynot try it , you can always uninstall the driver if it doesn't work
[15:25] <patricio> BluesKaj, ok
[15:26] <patricio> lol BluesKaj: Media change: please insert the disc labeled  'Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[15:26] <madMadam_myr> i use ubuntu gutsy gibbon..maybe this may cause problem to kile
[15:27] <patricio> isn't the web not big enough again? *g
[15:27] <madMadam_myr> have you any idea?...
[15:28] <skyfalcon866> is there a way to get tracker in kubuntu
[15:28] <patricio> this came when trying to install build-essential
[15:28] <eshat> stdin: thank you
[15:29] <madMadam_myr> could anyone help me adding packages to my kile?
[15:29] <madMadam_myr> it misses some .sty files
[15:30] <madMadam_myr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46835/plain/
[15:30] <BluesKaj> patricio, open your sources.list : kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and type # in front of the source line that uses your cdrom
[15:30] <madMadam_myr> i use it on ubuntu gutsy gibbon but on the #ubuntu channel none uses kile
[15:30] <BluesKaj> patricio, then save the file , the sudo apt-get update
[15:31] <patricio> yes, I know that procedure, just wonder why the source changed
[15:31] <osman47> !de
[15:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:31] <BluesKaj> patricio, then sudo apt-get update
[15:33] <skyfalcon866> is there a way to get tracker in kubuntu
[15:34] <BluesKaj> skyfalcon866, ktorrent
[15:34] <skyfalcon866> the search engine
[15:37] <skyfalcon866> !tracker
[15:37] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[15:39] <kristjan_> what's with adept? why it doesn't adapt style and font settings anymore?
[15:40] <skyfalcon866> !adept
[15:40] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[15:42] <skyfalcon866> !compiz
[15:42] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:44] <eva> hi
[15:47] <patricio> BluesKaj: hm, printer is silent :I
[15:47] <patricio> using foo2oak
[15:47] <MetaMorfoziS> please edit !compiz : You can still install it and have your eyekandy koodness;-)
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ok patricio ,I must state the obvious but make sure your printer parmeters are setup with the wizard in system settings/printers/add/ ..run the the print setup wizard
[15:52] <patricio> BluesKaj: ah, it works now...
[15:53] <Ozoned> Has anyone encountered a problem with firefox on 7.10 , on form submission returns http 400 "bad request", and also blank page on gmail logins
[15:57] <Narissa> Has anyone gotten the mouse to work properly in Gutsy with an nVidia card that doesn't involve using Option HWCursor "off"?
[15:59] <yuanjin> Me
[16:00] <Narissa> yuanjin: what did you do to get this to work?
[16:01] <yuanjin> I am using a nVidia graphic card and my system gusty. I did nothing. It works....
[16:01] <Narissa> yuanjin: for some reason mine just isn't wanting to do it, it's just this block of distorted colors
[16:05] <Narissa> any suggestions
[16:05] <yuanjin> What is the manufacture of your mouse?
[16:06] <Narissa> Labtec
[16:06] <Narissa> it's a USB mouse if that helps any
[16:07] <yuanjin> Have you searched your problem through google?
[16:08] <Narissa> yup and the best I find is use SWCUrsor, problem is that when I try to use certain games and programs the cursor blinks heavily
[16:08] <yuanjin> I am not sure about it, cause I never get in that kind of trouble
[16:10] <yuanjin> Probably you need to check the drive you are using for you Ncard
[16:10] <yuanjin> Is it the default restricted drive from gusty?
[16:11] <Narissa> nope
[16:11] <Narissa> I am using the build from the site
[16:11] <Narissa> sorry nVidia drivers from thier site
[16:12] <Narissa> one sec brb I am testing something
[16:12] <yuanjin> OK
[16:13] <Narissa> was checking if it was the Sync to VBlank setting
[16:13] <Dragonath> how to get rid of the one click action thing in konqueror (and in general)?
[16:14] <Dragonath> I want it so that if I click once, it selects, twice and it enters the directory or executes
[16:15] <hw_> !fixdpkg
[16:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixdpkg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:17] <hw_> apitude tells me "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" any ideas?
[16:18] <sivananda> Mornin' everyone. What package(s) do I need to install to get the videodvd kio slave working?
[16:19] <sivananda> Sorry, that would be in Gutsy
[16:19] <sivananda> !info kio_videodvd
[16:19] <ubotu> Package kio_videodvd does not exist in gutsy
[16:22] <jhutchins_lt> Dragonath: It's in the kcontrol settings.
[16:22] <jhutchins_lt> Dragonath: May even be in desktop settings.
[16:22] <Dragonath> ok
[16:22] <jhutchins_lt> hw_: What are you looking for?
[16:23] <hw_> jhutchins_lt: A solution for "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room"
[16:25] <jhutchins_lt> Since that doesn't happen regularly to most of us, perhaps you could explain what you were doing at the time of that error.
[16:25] <jhutchins_lt> or not, you don't have to ask us for help.
[16:25] <Dragonath> where in the system settings thingie is the thing I am looking for?
[16:25] <Dragonath> look and feel?
[16:26] <jhutchins_lt> Possibly
[16:28] <Dragonath> I can't seem to find it
[16:28] <sivananda> Anyone know what package(s) I need to install to get the videodvd kio slave working in Gutsy?
[16:30] <sivananda> When I try to access a DVD via Konqueror's Video DVD Browser service, I get the following: "An error occurred while loading videodvd:/:
[16:30] <sivananda> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[16:30] <sivananda>  klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_videodvd'."
[16:30] <Dragonath> ahh found it, problem solved
[16:31] <bazhang_> sivananda: you trying to watch dvd rip dvd or other
[16:33] <sivananda> bazhang_: actually it's one of those CD's that also has dvd content. Want to rip a couple videos. I know I can do it with k3b or similar, but I'd like to get the slave working for convenience sake...
[16:34] <luigi> !it
[16:34] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:34] <bazhang_> sivananda: I would use k3b or vlc; didn't even know konq could do that
[16:36] <sivananda> bazhang_: yep, kde's have a videodvd kio slave for a few years now I think. I'm guessing because of the non-free codec issue that Kubuntu removes it in base install...
[16:36] <sivananda> ^^ *had
[16:36] <bazhang_> sivananda: interesting to know--sorry can't be of more assistance :}
[16:39] <bazhang_> !aptfix
[16:39] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:40] <sivananda> bazhang_: kde commit-digest of June 10th, 2005 states: "New videodvd:/ kioslave does on the fly decryption from DVD." So two years anyway...
[16:40] <bazhang_> sivananda: cheers! you seem to know alot about this :}
[16:41] <sivananda> bazhang_: thanks. but not enough to get it working apparently... lol
[16:42] <BluesKaj> bazhang_, are you in Taipei ? , cuz my son used to teach english there and his ISP was 'hinet' as well :)
[16:42] <davibrosk> what about sudo apt-get -f install
[16:42] <bazhang_> sivananda: you should be answering questions not asking them :}
[16:42] <bazhang_> BluesKaj: yup! ni hao ma? :}
[16:43] <yuanjin> juran youren shuo zhong wen a
[16:43] <yuanjin> aha
[16:43] <bazhang_> hehe
[16:43] <yuanjin> xixi
[16:43] <bazhang_> !cn
[16:43] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:43] <yuanjin> bazhang哪里人
[16:43] <BluesKaj> nope sorry , don't speak cn
[16:44] <yuanjin> yup
[16:44] <bazhang_> BluesKaj: just how are you in pinyin :}
[16:45] <BluesKaj> I'm in Canada , my son used to live in Taipei
[16:45] <bazhang_> neat
[16:45] <yuanjin> Well
[16:46] <yuanjin> I lives in Mainland, not in Taipei
[16:46] <BluesKaj> cool, yuanjin , where abouts , HK ?
[16:48] <yuanjin> GuangDong Province
[16:48] <yuanjin> aha
[16:48] <yuanjin> Anyone here know it
[16:49] <joseph> miss world is from china.  she needs to eat some food!
[16:50] <BluesKaj> yer in Canton eh , yuanjin :)
[16:50] <oleh> drtu\
[16:50] <sivananda> bazhang_: nah not me. I only know enough to be dangerous... :D  I just had that bit because I try to find answers before I come in here. this is last resort... lol
[16:51] <yuanjin> :::BlueKaj:::::::How to format the color of letters here
[16:52] <joseph_> how do i mount a .mds in ubuntu?
[16:52] <tandat> how to install gnome in kde by CD-Rom
[16:53] <joseph_> how do i mount a .mds in ubuntu?
[16:53] <bazhang_> sivananda: your too modest :}
[16:53] <fdoving> joseph_: you mean .mdf ?
[16:53] <joseph_> ya
[16:54] <fdoving> joseph_: first install and run mdf2iso then mount the iso the regular way.
[16:54]  * sivananda passes around a LARGE pot of coffee. "Man, almost 400 people in here and NO one uses the videodvd kio slave in Konqueror?"
[16:54] <joseph_> thanx
[16:54] <tandat> how can i install gnome for kubuntu by cd rom?
[16:54] <joseph_> hey fdoving   is that in the repositories
[16:55] <fdoving> joseph_: in universe, yes.
[16:56] <ahkoers> hey guys what is the best burning program to install on kubuntu
[16:57] <NamShubJob> k3b
[16:57] <sivananda> !info k3b | ahkoers
[16:57] <ubotu> ahkoers: k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 4916 kB, installed size 9436 kB
[16:57] <ahkoers> ok thank you
[16:58] <sivananda> ahkoers: also does DVDs with some additional packages. Someone else will have to say which tho', sorry...
[17:09] <denechteww> Hi guys.
[17:09] <yuanjin> Hi denechteww
[17:09] <denechteww> I've got a question guys. I have at the moment a notebook and I want to transfer files to my desktop with kubuntu 10.0.4
[17:09] <denechteww> or 7.04? (te previouw version)
[17:10] <denechteww> Is it possible to set up a server on it?
[17:10] <denechteww> and acces external hard drives?
[17:11] <artmachine> HOJ TENTO DOPIS NEP?ESTÁVEJ ?ÍST!!!!TENTO DOPIS JE OD JEDNÉ HOLKY Z RUSKA JE JI 13 LET A VŽDICKY JSI P?ÁLA MÍT SVÉHO KON? JESLI TENTO DOPIS POŠLEŠ 20-TI LIDEM TAK JSI POTOM V DUCHU ?EKNI SVÉ TAJNÉ P?ÁJÍ ZJEVÍ SE TI TO DO 5 DN?.JESTLI TO NEPOŠLEŠ 20-TI LIDEM TA HOLKA P?IJDE K TOB? VE?ER V 00:00 A ZABIJETE T?!!!!JEDEN KLUK TO NEPOSLAL A DO ZÍT?KA NA POSTELY TAM BYLA JENOM JEHO KOSTRA A DOPIS PSANÉ KRVÍ!
[17:11] <martinw> !shouting
[17:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:11] <Jucato> !cz | artmachine
[17:11] <ubotu> artmachine: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.
[17:11] <martinw> !caps
[17:11] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[17:12] <yuanjin> >>>>denechteww<<<<<<You mean the way like windows does?
[17:12] <denechteww> hmm
[17:12] <denechteww> what's the windows way?
[17:12] <artmachine> neposerte se kokoti ;)
[17:12] <denechteww> not with stupid shared folder :p
[17:12] <Jucato> !ssh
[17:12] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[17:12] <Jucato> !samba
[17:12] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[17:12] <patrickkkk> hey im using ubuntu 7.10 how can i upgrade to KDE 4 RC1?
[17:12] <Jucato> patrickkkk: you don't
[17:13] <artmachine> !ubuntu
[17:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[17:13] <martinw> How do I share a internet connection made with gnome-ppp? Over a LAN between Kubuntu and Ubuntu.
[17:13] <artmachine> !gentoo
[17:13] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[17:13] <Jucato> patrickkkk: you don't "upgrade" to KDE 4 RC1. you install it, side by side with your current KDE (3.5.8)
[17:13] <patrickkkk> Jucato: can i install kde4?
[17:13] <Jucato> yes. see the link in the channel topic
[17:13] <martinw> Sorry, wrong channel. I meant to ask it in Ubuntu since its gnome.
[17:13] <djdarkman_> hy, I`ve upgraded to gutsy, kept my user files and now some labels in programs seem to be gone, what could be the problem?
[17:14] <djdarkman_> this applies to kde programs
[17:14] <patrickkkk> thanks Jucato
[17:14] <Jucato> djdarkman_: what labels? and where?
[17:14] <denechteww> Anyone can help me?
[17:14] <djdarkman_> Jucato: for example where I supposed to browse for files it usualy spells
[17:15] <tandat> can I install gnome in KDE with CD ubuntu 7.10?
[17:15] <djdarkman_> "..." or something like that, but now all I see is an extra small button with no label
[17:15] <denechteww> m
[17:15] <djdarkman_> should I take a sreenshot?
[17:15] <Jucato> tandat: that depends. what kind of CD is it? Desktop/Live CD or Alternate Install CD?
[17:15] <tandat> desktop/live
[17:15] <Jucato> djdarkman_: it might help
[17:15] <denechteww> You still there yuanjin?
[17:15] <Jucato> tandat: you can't
[17:16] <tandat> but this CD is install CD too
[17:16] <tandat> i request it from ubuntu
[17:17] <yuanjin> Yes
[17:17] <Jucato> tandat: yes. but you can only use it to install a fresh/clean system. you can't use it to install GNOME on an already existing Kubuntu system
[17:17] <tandat> ok, thank jucato
[17:19] <Jucato> djdarkman_: could you try uploading it to something like imageshack.us instead?
[17:19] <djdarkman_> that`s what I`m doing
[17:19] <yuanjin> Bye
[17:19] <TimS> How do I set the default web browser
[17:19] <djdarkman_> man I hate routers
[17:19] <Jucato> TimS: System Settings -> Default Applications?
[17:20] <djdarkman_> Jucato: http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jmy1nl3.png
[17:20] <TimS> :D
[17:20] <TheFuzzball> !w32codecs
[17:20] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[17:21] <Jucato> djdarkman_: are those icons before?
[17:22] <sivananda> !videodvd
[17:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videodvd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:22] <djdarkman_> Jucato: they should be
[17:22] <Jucato> really strange... hm..
[17:24] <djdarkman_> same thing in kdevelop Jucato
[17:25] <TheFuzzball> what version of KDE4 does Kubuntu have in repos? I keep seeing packages such as konqueror-kde4 dolphin-kde4 and so on, are they worth installing and running alongside KDE3?
[17:26] <emilsedgh> TheFuzzball: rc1 iirc and you could have them with kde3 at same time
[17:26] <TheFuzzball> cool
[17:26] <Jucato> djdarkman_: sorry, I can't think of anything.. try checking System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced tab and check the icons size for Toolbars
[17:26] <djdarkman_> ok thanks Jucato
[17:28] <alesan> hi, do you know if it is possible to user the thinkpad finger rader on kubuntu? I installed it and read my fingerprint on the command line without problems
[17:28] <BluesKaj> sivananda, what are you looking to do in dvd/video ?
[17:28] <alesan> kdm anyway seems to be unaware of this fingerprint reader
[17:29] <sivananda> BluesKaj: get the videodvd slave working...
[17:29] <BluesKaj> sivananda, on a different hard drive ?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> or the dvd drive?
[17:30] <poison--> hi BluesKaj
[17:30] <poison--> sup
[17:30] <sivananda> BluesKaj: Nope, on the dvd rom drive
[17:30] <BluesKaj> hi poison--
[17:31] <francesco> !it
[17:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:31] <sivananda> BluesKaj: sorry, actually a dvd rw drive
[17:31] <BluesKaj> ok sivananda , do you have libdvdcss2 installed
[17:31] <poison--> how can i create a share on kubuntu machine that can only be accessed by specific user with pwd?
[17:32] <sivananda> BluesKaj: yip. I can watch DVDs fine, as well as rip and burn with k3b. I'd just like to get the slave working for convenience sake.
[17:33] <BluesKaj> right sivananda , does it show up in storage media ?
[17:33] <sivananda> BluesKaj: kde says the slave has been a part of the desktop since June 2005. I'm assuming that Kubuntu removes it in a default install due to the restrictions issue...
[17:34] <sivananda> BluesKaj: In Dolphin? Yep...
[17:34] <BluesKaj> hmmm . neber heard of kubuntu restricting the number of dvd drives available
[17:34] <BluesKaj> never
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> !repositories
[17:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:35] <sivananda> BluesKaj: Sorry, I meant the restrictions regarding encrypted dvds, non-free codecs, etc.
[17:37] <nosrednaekim> !restricted
[17:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:37] <BluesKaj> sivananda, just open all the repos in adept or use source-o-matic to regenerate your sources.list, then do a copy and paste after deleting the text in the original , save and sudo apt-get update. Then any restricted codecs required will be available in the new repos
[17:40] <sivananda> BluesKaj: Been there done that. The problem is that the .so file for the videodvd slave is missing on the system, and I can't seem to find any clear answer as to which package would have it. It's normally a part of kde...
[17:40] <sivananda> the audiocd slave is there, but not the dvd slave
[17:41] <sivananda> nosrednaekim: thanks for that, but I've also been thru those links already...
[17:41] <Fantacy> there are so many users and so much chating on main. how to follow up my chat easily?
[17:41] <nosrednaekim> sivananda: those were for me... :D
[17:42] <sivananda> nosrednaekim: ah ok... :D
[17:43] <sivananda> BluesKaj: sorry, both the .so and the .la files
[17:44] <BluesKaj> sivananda, sorry i don't have the pleasure 2 dvdrives so my knowledge is nil in that dept
[17:44] <sivananda> BluesKaj: ok, well thanks anyway...
[17:45] <sivananda> I suppose I could d/l a base kde package and extract the needed files... what a pita tho'... :(
[17:47] <BluesKaj> sivananda, a hint ...use k9copy , it will copy to temp dir then ask for a blank media after copying and write to the new dvd disk , all in ine step ...quite convenient
[17:48] <joseph> when i try to assign xlock as the program to run using ctrl+alt+L, it runs strangely.
[17:48] <joseph> i have to manually kill the process
[17:49] <nosrednaekim> joseph: thats the default shortcut for lock screen, if that makes any difference
[17:49] <joseph> yeah, i disabled that shortcut
[17:50] <joseph> because i'm having some other problem with kde's screen saver
[17:50] <sivananda> BluesKaj: thanks, but the issue I'm after isn't about ripping a dvd. I have several ways to do that which work fine. I just want the slave working in Konqueror. I like the convenience of being able to open the file browser and simply drag a video file to my desktop and have it rip and encode in one shot.
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> joseph: ah.. ok..... what problem were you having with the kde lock screen?
[17:50] <joseph> for some reason, the screen saver listing in kcontrol is empty.  not sure why.
[17:51] <BluesKaj> ok sivananda, gotcha
[17:51] <joseph> it may have gone empty after an update, but it's been working since i upgraded to gutsy
[17:52] <joseph> the maintainer of xscreensaver says the way that kde implements the screen saver is improper for some reason
[17:52] <sivananda> BluesKaj: I do appreciate your suggestions tho'. Thanks :)
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> joseph: hrm.... what happens with the kde screensaver? lock up?
[17:53] <joseph> no, it works
[17:53] <joseph> i just can't configure it
[17:53] <joseph> or change the screen saver
[17:53] <joseph> if i run kcontrol as root, i get the listing, though
[17:53] <joseph> so go figure
[17:54] <BluesKaj> well sivananda , k9copy is great at stripping DRM and code area info from dvds ,...sort of a linux version dvdshrink
[17:55] <sivananda> BluesKaj: I'm really kinda surprised that there's no one here with more familiarity with the kio slaves. They're incredibly useful. For example, the audiocd slave lets me browse a CD in Konqueror and it shows a number of 'virtual' folder views of the disk, each with the tracks shown in various formats, mp3, flac, etc., and I can just choose which format I want and drag the files to my...
[17:55] <sivananda> ...machine and it rips and encodes.
[17:55] <joseph> so for some reason, i can view the list of screen savers via kdesu, but not as a normal user
[17:56] <joseph> anyone know why that would be the case?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> joseph: thats weird.... try #kde
[17:56] <joseph> heh
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> they ussually know a bit more about such things
[17:56] <BluesKaj> joseph, are you running the media scrn saver or slideshow ?
[17:56] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[17:56] <spykedtomato> hey all - has anyone actually gotten gmail to work in konqueror and how? It always stops for me at the "Loading…" screen and won't go further... I have browser identification set to firefox 1.5 and have tried 1.0 as well...
[17:57]  * nosrednaekim uses pop with Gmail....
[17:58] <BluesKaj> sivananda, that's the first time i've heard of kioslaves , and i'm a kubuntu semi-noob
[17:58] <sivananda> !info kioslave
[17:58] <ubotu> Package kioslave does not exist in gutsy
[17:59] <sivananda> hmmm
[17:59] <hydrogen> kioslaves are pretty awesome
[17:59] <n33dhelp> wth is kubuntu?
[17:59] <hydrogen> its a krazy ubuntu
[17:59] <n33dhelp> omg!
[17:59] <n33dhelp> awsum
[18:00] <bazhang_> n33dhelp: stop spamming please
[18:00] <BluesKaj> spykedtomato, gmail works but it's not fully supported...my FF ID doesn't seem to work in gutsy like it did in Feisty
[18:00] <n33dhelp> What the fuck?
[18:01] <parabol0x> Why so hard on the n00blet?
[18:01] <spykedtomato> thanks BluesKaj
[18:01] <LjL> because being a newbie doesn't justifying behaving like an idiot
[18:02] <LjL> and if i had been hard, that would have been a ban anyway
[18:02] <bazhang_> he was spamming in ubuntu channel as well
[18:02] <parabol0x> Oh, OK then.
[18:03] <parabol0x> I've just noticed a tendency to be hard on the new kids and try to speak up for them from time to time.
[18:03] <parabol0x> This time, I was mistaken.
[18:03] <hydrogen> t.T
[18:03] <hydrogen> make sure you watch out for the underdawg!
[18:03] <bazhang_> hehe
[18:07] <BluesKaj> does anyone have any suggestions about getting Konq to run properly on sites like gmail instead of just basic html ?
[18:09] <zorglu_> !info vlc
[18:09] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release.c-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 1134 kB, installed size 3228 kB
[18:09] <zorglu_> !info vlc feisty
[18:09] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[18:19] <gidna> hi
[18:19] <gidna> When I use tuxguitar I can't listen the audio of the other software..
[18:19] <lg188> hello
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> hello lg188
[18:21] <gidna> can you help me?
[18:21] <lg188> nosrednaekim any knowlegd of moparscape ?
[18:21] <nosrednaekim> gidna: it depends on your sound card.
[18:21] <nosrednaekim> lg188: eh? what? no... I dubt it
[18:21] <gidna> How can solve this problem?
[18:22] <jhutchins_lt> The image of crossing Crysler's quality control with the buggy old Netscape code....
[18:22] <jhutchins_lt> gidna: Can other programs share the audio output?
[18:22] <lg188> nosrednaekim: np ...
[18:22] <gidna> yes
[18:23] <gidna> only tuxguitar makes problems..
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: ahh... good point :D
[18:24] <jhutchins_lt> gidna: Probably it's a problem specific to that program then, and you should look for help on their forums or lists.  It sounds like the kubuntu system is working correctly.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> konq just wont render gmail except in basic html , all other sites seem to work fine , even yahoomail :(
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> hmmmm let me try with the kde4 konqueror
[18:26] <lg188> somebody knows moparscape ?
[18:27] <bazhang_> lg188: what is it?
[18:28] <lg188> bazhang_a beter version of runescape but i don't know how to play ...(i have heard a review from a friend)
[18:28] <BluesKaj> is it a gutsty bug or am i just not setting up the config browser ID properly
[18:29] <bazhang_> lg188: not sure then
[18:29] <lg188> bazhang_: np  i schould  wait
[18:30] <bazhang_> lg188: hard to though, right? sounds cool. :}
[18:30] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: You need to use the user agent for gmail in konwq
[18:30] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I have konq identifying as Mozilla 1.7.3 on Windows XP and it works great. with gmail
[18:31] <lg188> somebody knows and plays moparscape ?
[18:31] <lg188> bazhang_::)
[18:31] <lg188> bazhang_: :)
[18:31] <BluesKaj> i have it set up as FF 1.5
[18:32] <bazhang_> user agent switcher is awesome in firefox vista/ie7 haha
[18:32] <sourcemaker> how can i start xserver twice?
[18:39] <skyfalcon866> !hardy
[18:39] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:40] <luke_> !KDE4
[18:40] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[18:41] <luke_> does anyone know how to get Konqueror/Nspluginviewer to wirk with Flash player 9.0.115?
[18:41] <luke_> It works fine with Firefox but crashes nspluginviewer
[18:43] <skyfalcon866> will kde4 make its way into gusty
[18:43] <ardchoille> skyfalcon866: iirc, the updates will be included.. I think in backports
[18:44] <yermaw> skyfalcon866: Is KDE 4 not due for Feb08?
[18:45] <sourcemaker> How to install a Nvidia GLX Card... ?
[18:45] <skyfalcon866> January 11 2008 it suppose to come out
[18:45] <ardchoille> !nvidia | sourcemaker
[18:45] <ubotu> sourcemaker: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:45] <sourcemaker> The kubuntu documentation does not work !!!
[18:45] <t3ch13> I need to know if anybody knows how Kubuntu works with the Intel 4965AGN wireless also the Nvidia Geforce 8400M video
[18:45] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Which card do you have?
[18:45] <sourcemaker> NV 7600 GT
[18:45] <bazhang_> t3ch13: do you have the livecd? try it out and see--no install needed
[18:46] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[18:46] <t3ch13> I am going to buy a new laptop and I can't do the live thing
[18:47] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: yes... I did... result: API mismatch
[18:47] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: :(
[18:47] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Got the kernel modules install?
[18:47] <bazhang_> t3ch13: have you checked linux on laptops website, or just generally on internet about this computer--that is how I chose my laptop
[18:48] <luke_> !nspluginviewer
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginviewer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <luke_> !konqueror
[18:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:48] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep -i installed
[18:48] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: nvidia-kernel-common
[18:48] <luke_> rubbish
[18:49] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: installed
[18:50] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Weird
[18:50] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: The card is also on the supported list
[18:51] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Yes, I checked that before giving you instructions. Not sure why it isn't working.
[18:51] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Did you use the restricted driver manager first?
[18:52] <lg188> somebody knows and plays moparscape ?
[18:54] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: yes
[18:54] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: but i have installed a new card... because my old one is legacy (geforce 3)
[18:54] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: That's what messed me up too. I did notice that after a system reinstall, using the command line method worked flawlessly
[18:54] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: maybe... there is a config mismatch
[18:55] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: You can try reconfiguring xorg and see if that helps
[18:55] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: how do that?
[18:55] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:55] <eshat> where do sources get installed, if i type apt-get source ???
[18:56] <eshat> !sourcde
[18:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcde - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:56] <eshat> !source
[18:56] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[19:13] <BluesKaj> nope, konq won't render gmail with all the features no matter what browser ID and user agent I try :(
[19:15] <jhutchins_lt> It's a limitation in Konq (I think in handling improper java script).
[19:17] <BluesKaj> it's a pi**off to me , jhutchins , otherwise I would dump FF in an instant..altho i do have gmail setup to forward messages to the kmail inbox , the fact that konq won't work bugs me :)
[19:28] <Eduardiyo> any soft to record what's doing in my pc?
[19:36] <ninjagambit> what html editors can you get with kubuntu
[19:36] <ninjagambit> bluefish?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !html
[19:38] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[19:42] <Viper550> I can't believe it, the KDE4 packages you claim are RC1, are Beta 4!
[19:43] <ninjagambit> has anyone used screem
[19:43] <ninjagambit> and thanks :blueskaj
[19:53] <compbrain> Howdy folks. Anyone know if there is a problem with the current gutsy kubuntu-desktop metapackage? Any attempt to PXE install with it results in a libstreamanalyzer0 conflict
[19:53] <anto> Can somone help me... i totaly screwed up my gtk system so now i cannot run any programs that use gtk
[19:55] <anto> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle
[19:55] <anto> /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle
[20:05] <FlashWolf> is there some issue for compiz-settings-manager to work in kubuntu?
[20:07] <blekos> hi, i try to get into a directory that has a "." but i cannot see it from the command prompt
[20:08] <carwash^> ls -la will show hidden directories
[20:09] <blekos> thnx
[20:09] <Paddy_EIRE> can anyone else name an alternate web browser for kde other than konqueror or firefox
[20:09] <gastu> hi
[20:10] <llutz> Paddy_EIRE: opera maybe
[20:10] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[20:10] <FlashWolf> Paddy_EIRE: opera
[20:10] <FlashWolf> too late...
[20:10] <Paddy_EIRE> llutz: good call llutz and FlashWolf
[20:11] <slav3_kitten>  *waves a paw*
[20:11] <gastu> i have configured the dualscreen on my kubuntu 1 monitor 1 tv everything seems to be fine excpet that videos played on the tv even in fullscreen are using the half of the tv the rest is black
[20:11] <gastu> someone got an idea?
[20:12] <Paddy_EIRE> firefox is segfaulting all over the place and konqueror seems to have difficulty with divx streams
[20:12] <Paddy_EIRE> perhaps opera is the answer until I work my way through those probs
[20:12] <genii> seamonkey
[20:12] <blekos> hi, i try to locate/run thunderbirds profile manager
[20:13] <blekos> but i only find a .mozilla-thunderbird folder
[20:13] <Paddy_EIRE> maybe that will segfault too genii as ff and seamonkey are so similar
[20:13] <genii> Hmm
[20:13] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: sounds like either a problem with a plugin, or you have bad RAM
[20:14] <Paddy_EIRE> D: less than 7 month old laptop carwash^
[20:14] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: age doesn't matter
[20:14] <genii> Theres a fairly comprehensive list here http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm/en/lin_browser.html some are for gnome
[20:14] <carwash^> your ram may be bust from the factory
[20:14] <Paddy_EIRE> I suppose although I couldnt call them on the warranty as I removed vista as quickly as a I could... so they would have excuses I'm sure
[20:15] <carwash^> you can boot into a ramtest from the kubuntu install cd, let it run over night. if it's ok, good, if its bad get your ram replaced
[20:15] <carwash^> I've had no problems getting warranty service on my hp
[20:16] <Paddy_EIRE> even though you used linux
[20:16] <Paddy_EIRE> did they not say anything about their acpi is not in use
[20:16] <anto> Can somone explain "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle"
[20:17] <Paddy_EIRE> carwash^: also other apps seem fine so why would firefox detect bad ram?
[20:17] <parabol0x> anto: that looks like some kind of error message
[20:17] <anto> parabol0x: you dont say!?
[20:17] <anto> Somone got an idea how to fix it?
[20:17] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: it's probably a bad plugin, but testing the ram costs you nothing
[20:17] <Paddy_EIRE> anto: google it first.. then check the forums
[20:18] <the-erm> I don't particularly like dolphin, how do you set everything to run in konqueror?  Like when you insert an sd card.
[20:18] <anto> Paddy_EIRE: there is not a single thread/page on google
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> carwash^: apparently memtest takes forever
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> anto: I doubt that error is unique to you
[20:18] <carwash^> forever just happens to coincide with the amount of time one sleeps ;)
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> I dont
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> 3-3 hrs here an there
[20:18] <anto> Paddy_EIRE: Google it your self
[20:18] <Paddy_EIRE> 2-3*
[20:19] <Paddy_EIRE> no thanks
[20:19] <parabol0x> anto: Google this '/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0' 18,100 results
[20:20] <Sam1337> How do I change my dm-crypt passphrase?
[20:20] <anto> parabol0x: yeah but 0.001% have got a simular problem
[20:27] <parabol0x> anto: try Opera
[20:28] <Paddy_EIRE> carwash^: I dont need to run memtest from the cd do I?? Its in my grub boot menu anyway.
[20:31] <carwash^> Paddy_EIRE: you dont need to run it from the cd
[20:32] <CrocoJet> how can I get list all programs installed in kubuntu ?
[20:34] <llutz> CrocoJet: dpkg -l|grep ^ii
[20:34] <CrocoJet> llutz, thanks
[20:34] <masoft_> prova
[20:35] <VSpike> anyone know where I can get debugging symbols fo digikam?
[20:40] <vzduch> VSpike: isn't there a 'debuginfo' pkg?
[20:40] <vzduch> for digikam
[20:44] <VSpike> vzduch: had to add the repos at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash and now I have a digikam-dbgsym package :)
[20:47] <Radi01> Whats the command to get microsoft off my computer.
[20:48] <VSpike> Radi01: be more specific?
[20:48] <Radi01> nvm.
[20:48] <VSpike> Radi01: you have a dual boot system and you want to remove the windows system?
[20:48] <vzduch> 'format c: /u' doesn't work any more w/ NT-based systems
[20:49] <Radi01> Got it. thanks.
[20:49] <BluesKaj> delete the ntfs partition in gparted or qparted , then reformat in ext3 , then resize the kubuntu partition to take the old ntfs space
[20:49] <Radi01> I'm just going to do a backup and re-install linux.
[20:49] <VSpike> or move your /home to the new partition
[20:50] <Radi01> Thanks.
[20:50]  * genii sips
[20:50] <vzduch> genii: what?
[20:50] <Walkboss> Hello! Can someone possibly assist me in networking my Kubuntu box with a fresh WinXP installed box?
[20:50] <noname> hello
[20:51] <genii> vzduch: Coffee, i'm still at work
[20:51] <genii> vzduch: :)
[20:51] <vzduch> ;)
[20:51] <Radi01> Whats in the coffee.
[20:51] <noname> may i ask if any1 knows where is option for prinitng black/white ? :)
[20:51] <ScorpKing> !samba | Walkboss
[20:51] <ubotu> Walkboss: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[20:52] <VSpike> SWAT is nice but it's a bit of a pig to get working sometimes
[20:52] <ScorpKing> noname: it will be a grayscale option somewhere in the printer settings.
[20:53] <VSpike> Isn't there a KDE tool for doing samba shares?
[20:53] <VSpike> I mean for sharing with samba?
[20:53] <vzduch> ?
[20:54] <VSpike> Walkboss: you should be able to browse windows shares in konqueror using smb:/
[20:54] <trpr> konqueror itself. trying putting smb:\\SomeSambaHost in the address bar
[20:54] <trpr> err, smb:/ ;)
[20:54] <VSpike> trpr: it could be smb://
[20:54] <trpr> i wrote :\\ and it changed my slashes to //
[20:54] <VSpike> I'm not running KDE at the moment, so can't check.
[20:55] <ScorpKing> smb4k is a nice tool for samba networks in kde
[20:55] <anto> how do i format my hardisk to what kubuntu uses?
[20:55] <VSpike> I'm sure I remember seeing something in the control centre for setting up simple samba sharing.  Outgoing, rather than incoming.
[20:55] <Walkboss> I enabled one folder to be shared on XP and I'm checking smb:// now and the only entry (Home) timesout
[20:55] <noname> thx scorpking :)
[20:56] <ScorpKing> anto: backup everything and then run sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/<disk>
[20:56] <vzduch> Walkboss: you might want to use the New Connections wizard in XP
[20:56] <VSpike> anto: use qtparted if you prefer a GUI
[20:56] <ScorpKing> Walkboss: smb://ip.of.win.box/
[20:56] <Walkboss> Beautiful
[20:57] <Walkboss> smb://ip worked perfectly. I knew there was a simple solution that I was just looking over.
[20:57] <ScorpKing> i think the other option is smb://workgroup/
[20:57] <ScorpKing> i use nfs only so can't check
[20:58] <Walkboss> So this is only for linux -> windows?
[20:58] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:00] <Walkboss> Thank you so much. I have one more question! I will be getting a new computer and printer in the office soon and I want to be able to print from my kubuntu laptop to the printer (which will be connected to another XP box). What do I need to do to accomplish this? I've used linux for about 1 1/2 and I've never set up a regular printer, much less a networked one.
[21:00] <ScorpKing> for linux -> linux nfs is a lot better.
[21:00] <ScorpKing> !cups
[21:00] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[21:01] <Walkboss> 1 1/2 years that is. I'm losing it
[21:01] <anto> Should i create the partion as primary or extended partition?
[21:01] <ScorpKing> Walkboss: it should be pretty easy to add a network printer through kcontrol
[21:02] <Walkboss> Ok, thanks. I had no idea how complicated it would be
[21:02] <Walkboss> or isn't in this case
[21:02] <grul> CUPS SUCKS!
[21:02] <ScorpKing> anto: if it's less than 4 partitions use primary. doesn't really matter tho
[21:02] <grul> sorry, "wrong channel"
[21:02] <FlashWolf> hey guys
[21:03] <ScorpKing> grul: it's more like CAPS sucks. :P lol
[21:03] <FlashWolf> which repo should i use to get kxdocker?
[21:03] <grul> nice comeback
[21:03] <ScorpKing> hi FlashWolf
[21:03] <grul> :D
[21:03] <FlashWolf> and the libemeraldengine0?
[21:03] <anto> ScorpKing: what i'm trying to do is to use a hardisk for the system and another of the files i wanna keep so when i go kamikaze its simple to reinstall
[21:03] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: hi! :D
[21:03] <anto> ScorpKing: what sounds best extended or primary?
[21:03] <grul> COPS SUCKS!
[21:04] <ScorpKing> anto: primary in that case
[21:04] <sebbz^> cups sucks
[21:04] <sebbz^> :(
[21:04] <ScorpKing> !caps
[21:04] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[21:04] <anto> ScorpKing: Primary for the one with all the valueable files not the one to be booted?
[21:05] <matttis> hi, does anyone know how kopete logs icq stuff ? Is there a file for every person or is it more difficult ?
[21:05] <FlashWolf> ...?
[21:05] <ScorpKing> anto: you can make one partition (primary) for / and one (primary) for /home and swap (primary). that's how i got it.
[21:05] <jhutchins_lt> matttis: Should be one file per channel.
[21:05] <parabol0x> I like to make all my partitions primary, but that's just how I roll.
[21:06] <ScorpKing> same here
[21:06] <BluesKaj> has anyone used CIFS in place of samba/smb on their network ,and if so what are the advantages, if any ?
[21:06] <parabol0x> I think there is a limit of four primary partitions per disc
[21:06] <ScorpKing> yes
[21:06] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: CIFS is the more general system that samba is moving towards, you're going to start seeing complaints if you use the old smbfs stuff.
[21:06] <parabol0x> BluesKaj: smb is depricated, CIFS is in development
[21:07] <jhutchins_lt> parabol0x: Ironic, no?  Deprecated, but the replacement isn't ready yet.
[21:07] <parabol0x> I'll say it's not ready.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> !CIFS
[21:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:07] <matttis> jhutchins_lt: might be, but i've got 130 files (could be more), and only got 25 contacts. Some off the files have no content (only the xml-framework).
[21:07] <parabol0x> still, it works well enough.
[21:07] <ScorpKing> !info cifs
[21:07] <ubotu> Package cifs does not exist in gutsy
[21:07] <anto> ScorpKing: qt keeps crashing
[21:08] <anto> qtparted*
[21:08] <jhutchins_lt> matttis: You probably know more about it than I do then.
[21:08]  * ScorpKing slaps ubotu..
[21:08] <compbrain> !info samba
[21:08] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 (gutsy), package size 3750 kB, installed size 9212 kB
[21:08] <jhutchins_lt> matttis: Anything more specific is going to have to be from the kopete support channels.
[21:08] <ScorpKing> anto: does it give errors? start it from konsole to see
[21:08] <Walkboss> Ok, one more question please!
[21:08] <ScorpKing> !ask
[21:08] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:08] <anto> ScorpKing: works now
[21:08] <Walkboss> I need to be backup to my newly networked XP box
[21:09] <Walkboss> need to backup*
[21:09] <jhutchins_lt> anto: You're not trying to run it on the disk your system's running from, are you?
[21:09] <parabol0x> !dd
[21:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:09] <parabol0x> w/e'
[21:09] <matttis> jhutchins_lt: I'll ask there, thx
[21:09] <ScorpKing> dd won't work for smb i think
[21:09] <parabol0x> use a live disc and back up to a removable drive
[21:10] <anto> jhutchins_lt: i'm not that stupid ;)
[21:10] <ScorpKing> Walkboss: just copy the files there
[21:10] <anto> ScorpKing: should the swap partion be on the same hardisk as the files that i always want to keep?
[21:10] <jhutchins_lt> !backup | Walkboss
[21:10] <ubotu> Walkboss: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[21:10] <Walkboss> I guess that would work.
[21:10] <FlashWolf> what repo do i use to get kxdocker?
[21:10] <Walkboss> I've been using Simple Backup
[21:10] <jhutchins_lt> anto: You'd be surprised, people do it all the time.
[21:10] <anto> weird people in the world today
[21:11] <jhutchins_lt> anto: Make sure you've got a good iso/cd; if it's good you may want to memtest the system.
[21:11] <anto> like microsoft saying that a linux desktop costs more the windows
[21:11] <ScorpKing> anto: put the swap partition at the end of the disk. that way it's easy to dd to a bigger disk if you have to end just resize /home
[21:11] <ScorpKing> and*
[21:11] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: there is kooldock as well ;)
[21:14] <jhutchins_lt> I never like partitioning.  It always turns out the space you need is on the other partition.  Just use / and /swap and make a backup of /home.
[21:14] <matttis> jhutchins_lt: fyi - kopete saves it for each contact and month
[21:14] <parabol0x> I think kopete saves in a . file in ~
[21:14] <parabol0x> a subdir, actually
[21:15] <parabol0x> just dig around a bit
[21:15] <parabol0x> you'll find it
[21:15] <jhutchins_lt> I try not to keep much on the local drives anyway, save all data to a shared server.
[21:15] <parabol0x> or grep for a unique phrase
[21:16] <ScorpKing> .kde/share/apps/kopete/
[21:16] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: need some external repo?
[21:17] <ScorpKing> !find kooldock
[21:17] <ubotu> Found: kooldock
[21:17] <ScorpKing> !info kooldock
[21:17] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB
[21:17] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: see there ^
[21:17] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i'm installing...
[21:17] <FlashWolf> dont need any repo. thk u!
[21:18] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[21:18] <ScorpKing> there are others as well. google for them.
[21:19] <milfhunter> guys is there a program to see a videos codec?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> milfhunter, one can usually see from the file extn
[21:21] <parabol0x> often the extension only describes the container...
[21:21] <parabol0x> that doesn'
[21:21] <parabol0x> t always tell you what codec was used
[21:21] <cps1966> any one get kubuntu installed on eee pc
 yes its an .avi but i need to see something like video encoder MP4 audio encoder AC3
[21:23] <BluesKaj> usually divx or xvid , if it's avi
[21:24] <BluesKaj> milfhunter, try devede GUI , it may give the codecs for both audio and video
[21:24] <milfhunter> well i'll explain better what i mean, i have a 40min video thats like 700Mb and i have downloaded avidemux2 to re-encode it but i am not sure what type of video/audio encoding is the best to use...
[21:24] <milfhunter> normally it could be like 350-370mb
[21:25] <jhutchins_lt> the tovid package has a nice utility to display all the info on a video file.
[21:25] <jhutchins_lt> It'll give you the length and encoding and everything.
[21:26] <jhutchins_lt> !info tovid
[21:26] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[21:26] <jhutchins_lt> !?
[21:27] <nosrednaekim> !info tovid (fiesty)
[21:27] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[21:28] <jhutchins_lt> http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[21:28] <cps1966> !info transcode
[21:28] <ubotu> transcode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 2380 kB, installed size 5488 kB
[21:28] <jhutchins_lt> It's just scripts, no binaries, so safe to install from the tarball.
[21:28] <BluesKaj> yes jhutchins, agreed but devede will give the properties without having to transcode
[21:28] <RogueJediX> Did anyone have any trouble getting KRec to work?
[21:28] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: The tovid util doesn't transcode, it just reads the headers and dumps the info.
[21:29] <BluesKaj> ok, point taken, jhutchins
[21:30] <milfhunter> thanks for the help guys :)
[21:30] <milfhunter> i hope transcode does the job!
[21:32] <svenne> hej
[21:32] <svenne> någon svensk?
[21:33] <jhutchins_lt> svenne: Sadly, no.
[21:33] <BluesKaj> !se | svenne
[21:33] <ubotu> svenne: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[21:33] <tekteen> anyone know how to do a net install?
[21:34] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Never don a 'buntu one, there should be a way from the alternate install CD though - probably an option on the menu.
[21:34] <tekteen> I looked
[21:34] <tekteen> everywhere
[21:35] <cps1966> na there aint one tiko
[21:35] <tekteen> I know the alt install cd inside and out.
[21:35] <tekteen> were u talking to me?
[21:35] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Um, did you try googling "kubuntu net install"?
[21:35] <tekteen> yes
[21:35] <cps1966> dont know anyone that did netinstall
[21:36] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get distro-upgrade ?
[21:36] <tekteen> ?
[21:37] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: It's not really meant to be done over the net, as long as you've got the CD anyway might as well install from that.  It pulls updates from the net anyway.
[21:37] <BluesKaj> tekteen, I'm not sure :)
[21:37] <compbrain> tekteen: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[21:37] <jhutchins_lt> I see that net installs are a future planned feature, which implies that they haven't been explicitly made available yet.
[21:37] <tekteen> not looking for PXE
[21:37] <compbrain> what are you looking for then?
[21:38] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Don't just a FAQ by it's URL!
[21:38] <tekteen> I want a cd that will
[21:38] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: Just use the alt CD.
[21:38] <tekteen> install from its own repo
[21:38] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, no wonder my attempts at a net upgrade to gusty kept failing :)
[21:38] <mike-kubuntu> almost nothing about kde 4 works for me still
[21:38] <nosrednaekim> I think its "dist-upgrade"
[21:38] <BluesKaj> err gutsy
[21:38] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Net upgrade is not the same as net install.
[21:38] <tekteen> if there is an update or it does not have it it will get it from the net
[21:38] <compbrain> tekteen: http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[21:39] <tekteen> thanks
[21:39] <compbrain> or the equivalent path for a mirror near you.
[21:39] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[21:39] <jhutchins_lt> compbrain: Someone needs to clean up som old web pages....
[21:39] <compbrain> jhutchins_lt: pardon?
[21:40] <jhutchins_lt> There's a lot of stuff that says it's not available.
[21:40] <jhutchins_lt> compbrain: Old stuff no doubt.
[21:40] <compbrain> What page are you speaking of?
[21:41] <jhutchins_lt> Whatever, first page of hits on google assumes it's not explicitly possible.
[21:41] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt,  i did a clean install from the live cd after adept's upgrade client kept failing
[21:41] <BluesKaj> the repos kept disconnecting
[21:42] <jhutchins_lt> Yuck
[21:42] <tekteen> compbrain: do u know of and documentation on the mini.iso
[21:42] <jhutchins_lt> Bad repos will make a mess of the best installers.
[21:42] <tekteen> any*
[21:43] <compbrain> tekteen: It boots, and is the text mode ubuntu installer, not sure specifically what your looking for.
[21:43] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: You still haven't explained _why_.
[21:44] <nosrednaekim> mike-kubuntu: are you using the RC1?
[21:44] <tekteen> jhutchins_It: I do installs on machines with no DVD drive but need them to auto install A LOT of software
[21:44] <mike-kubuntu> nosrednaikim: yeah
[21:44] <tekteen> I have been modifying the alt install cd but it will not get packages off the internet
[21:45] <compbrain> tekteen: also, the 'installation-guide-$ARCH' packages will have information your looking for
[21:45] <tekteen> ok
[21:45] <tekteen> I need to figure out how to put a deb repo (like on the alt install cd) on the mini.iso
[21:46] <tekteen> and make in gigantic.iso :-)
[21:46] <jhutchins_lt> Hm.  There's a program called kickstart in RedHat, pretty sure there are similar ones, allows you to profile a machine and use that as an install template.  Takes a few extra steps, but it sounds like you're already doing those.
[21:46] <tekteen> yep
[21:46] <jhutchins_lt> There should be something like that for kubuntu....
[21:46] <lucian> Does anyone know where I can find a good walkthrough to connect to a wireless network with wpa enabled, when im only booted up to a command line interface?
[21:46] <tekteen> there ir
[21:46] <tekteen> preseed
[21:46] <tekteen> is*
[21:47] <tekteen> !wpa
[21:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:47] <compbrain> jhutchins_lt: There is. If you look at the installation guide, you can use preseed OR kickstart files with the ubuntu-installer, which will install a kubuntu machine.
[21:47] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: So you would be using something like that?
[21:47] <tekteen> ?
[21:48] <tekteen> jhutchins_lt: I do not understand
[21:48] <tekteen> what is "that"
[21:48]  * tekteen is too tired to think
[21:49] <jhutchins_lt> tekteen: You would use something like preseed to build your boot/install iso.
[21:49] <tekteen> yes, I do use preseed
[21:50] <jhutchins_lt> Well, enought of this foolishness.  Sitting around pretending to support a Windows site all day!
[21:50] <tekteen> But it will not use a repo
[21:50] <genii> there is a tool for it
[21:50] <tekteen> genii: what tool?
[21:51] <tekteen> g2g
[21:51] <tekteen> bye
[21:51] <pteague_work> anybody know if there's a way to get kget to save a file with the server date rather than now() ?
[21:51] <genii> me too soon
[21:56] <evan_> ok, this isnt a question but, goto www.tnt.tv    i think its been recently hacked, like just now cause it was fine 30 secs ago. i get pics or porn for  charmed and the closer
[21:56] <evan_> i just think its funny
[21:56] <evan_> thats all
[21:57] <yis> em?
[21:59] <anto> ScorpKing:  you there?
[21:59] <ScorpKing> yeah
[21:59] <anto> should the linux-swap be primary or extended partion also is 50gb to big?
[21:59] <nosrednaekim> anto: doesn't matter, and 50gb is way to big for swap.
[22:00] <ScorpKing> primary is fine if you have only /, /home and swap. 1GB is enough
[22:00] <nosrednaekim> anto: 2gigs is about right for most
[22:00] <BluesKaj> 2G swap is plenty
[22:00] <ScorpKing> i have 500MB swap here
[22:01] <parabol0x> swap should be 2X RAM
[22:01] <parabol0x> or 1.5
[22:01] <anto> 4gb then
[22:01] <anto> Ill set 6gb thinking of adding another gb of ram
[22:01] <ScorpKing> you'll never use all that
[22:01] <parabol0x> That's more than you'll need, guaranteed
[22:01] <anto> parabol0x: i got 700gb of space
[22:01] <parabol0x> w/e
[22:02] <anto> w/e ?
[22:02] <parabol0x> whatever
[22:02] <anto> k :P
[22:02] <parabol0x> I just remember my first pc
[22:02] <parabol0x> with a 500MB drive
[22:02] <parabol0x> thinking, damn, how'm I ever gonna fill all that
[22:02] <anto> The first computer i used was my fathers with a 20mb hardisk
[22:02] <parabol0x> ...you know the rest of the story
[22:02] <anto> i could play tetris on it
[22:03] <anto> then he bought a windows 95 were you had to write "win" everytime you started it :P
[22:03] <anto> Good old days huh :P
[22:03] <parabol0x> But yeah, storage is cheap, use whatever you want for swap
[22:03] <anto> K now i only need to move 300gb of musics and my homemade videos :P
[22:04] <parabol0x> I recommend doing it from the command line with cp
[22:04] <anto> Quick question how do i /dev/sda1 to run as /home/anto?
[22:04] <parabol0x> Konq doesn't always fail gracefully
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> anto: are you in the partitioner?
[22:05] <anto> nosrednaekim: what you mean?
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> anto: are you installing right now?
[22:05] <anto> nosrednaekim: no i was using qtparted to partion one of the hardisks
[22:05] <take34> hi all
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> anto: oh... ok, well you assign the drive to /home later (int he installer)
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> hi take34
[22:06] <anto> nosrednaekim: yeah i know that
[22:06] <anto> but should i create a holder called anto?
[22:06] <take34> can i ask for a help ?
[22:06] <anto> in /dev/sda1
[22:06] <anto> of course you can
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> anto: partition?
[22:06] <anto> folder*
[22:06] <parabol0x> no
[22:06] <nosrednaekim> anto: ok...no
[22:06] <parabol0x> it'll be created automatically
[22:06] <parabol0x> when you create first user
[22:06] <anto> then were should i move the files i want to save before reinstalling the hardisk?
[22:06] <take34> i've deleteed firefox from the adept programm on kubuntu how can i isntall firefox now ?
[22:07] <anto> just to a random folder then move over to anto ?
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> take34: go back intop the adept program and reinstall it
[22:07] <parabol0x> ummm.
[22:07] <take34> how to ?
[22:07] <parabol0x> I haven't been paying attention
[22:07] <nosrednaekim> anto: oh.... umm you meant he HD has files  on it right now?
[22:07] <anto> take34: sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:07] <evan_> anto: my bad from earlier, but something isnt right. thats all, im out.
[22:07] <parabol0x> anto: you're installing to a PC with files you want to save on it?
[22:07] <take34> just a sec i ve tried it and got an error
[22:08] <anto> nosrednaekim: the HD with my files is the one with the current operating system my father bought me a new hardisk so i thougt i would use my old one for the system and the new of the music programing codes etc
[22:08] <anto> so should i create a folder with a random name on the new hardisk and then when i reinstalled move into the folder called anto created by the system?
[22:08] <nosrednaekim> anto: so wait.... you are installing kubuntu on the hard drive that currently had all of your files?
[22:09] <parabol0x> For failsafe security, I'd install to the new drive, with the old drive physically removed from the case
[22:09] <anto> currentlys has *
[22:09] <parabol0x> Once you have a working system, install the old drive with all your files as a slave drive
[22:10] <parabol0x> and modify fstab
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> anto: ok..currently has?
[22:10] <parabol0x> copy your files to new drive, and fdisk the old drive
[22:10] <anto> nosrednaekim: yes
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> anto: don't do that.... your files will be erased.
[22:10] <nosrednaekim> anto:  install the OS on the new drive.
[22:10] <anto> thats what i was worried about
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> anto: stop that partitioning and do NOT apply your changes
[22:11] <anto> take34: close adept manager
[22:11] <anto> Blimy im getting a head ache
[22:11] <anto> :P
[22:11] <anto> lets take this tomorrow school tomorrow
[22:11] <parabol0x> Put it away till tomorrow then
[22:12] <anto> Cya
[22:12] <medhat> hi
[22:12] <nosrednaekim> hey medhat
[22:12] <medhat> i want ide c/c++ for kubuntu can any one tell what is the best
[22:12] <NeoFax> Hello everyone!
[22:12] <medhat> nosrednaekim: hey
[22:12] <milfhunter>  <medhat>  kdevelop i think
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> medhat: kdevelop
[22:13] <medhat> it is aompiler or text editor
[22:13] <take34> anto: when i do udo apt-get install firefox
[22:13] <milfhunter>  <medhat>  also eclipse i think is supporting c/c++
[22:13] <nosrednaekim> hi NeoFax
[22:13] <take34> i get
[22:13] <take34> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:13] <take34> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:13] <medhat> i want something like dev c++ in windows :d
[22:13] <maverick_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[22:13] <maverick_> Mem:          1001        948         53
[22:14] <anto> Closed adept_manager!
[22:14] <anto> CLose
[22:14] <maverick_> any ideas
[22:14] <maverick_> am having 1GB ram
[22:14] <take34> ok
[22:14] <maverick_> used: 948 :|
[22:14] <anto> nosrednaekim: quick question
[22:14] <milfhunter>  <medhat>  i think the closest is kdevelop
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: take a look at the second line, which is what really matters
[22:14] <nosrednaekim> anto: ya?
[22:14] <stdin> !memory | maverick_
[22:14] <ubotu> maverick_: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[22:15] <anto> If you could find a solution on how to fix this i would not have to reinstall my pc "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle"
[22:15] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: used 548
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> maverick_: thats better :D
[22:15] <medhat> how can i install it and what its needs
[22:15] <maverick_> nosrednaekim: thnx
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> anto: reinstall libgtk
[22:15] <anto> nosrednaekim: i tried
[22:15] <david__> Hi all
[22:15] <nosrednaekim> medhat: "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[22:15] <take34> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:15] <take34> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:15] <take34> is only available from another source
[22:15] <take34> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[22:16] <take34> ;)
[22:16] <anto> sudo apt-get install mozilla
[22:16] <take34> srry
[22:16] <nosrednaekim> take34: try "mozilla-firefox"
[22:16] <medhat> okay i will c hanks for help  guyz
[22:16] <anto> nosrednaekim: how do i reinstall libgtk i have tried for ages
[22:17] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm having some trouble getting flash workign in opera, can anyone help me out?
[22:17] <anto> nosrednaekim: i think i screwed it up when trying to compile monodevelop
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> anto: let me see...
[22:17] <anto> Ch1ppy: You got flashplayer 9 installed?
[22:17] <Ch1ppy> anto: trying to install the newest beta release
[22:17] <anto> U runing amd64?
[22:17] <Ch1ppy> anto: nope
[22:17] <nosrednaekim> anto: yech... don'tdo mono
[22:18] <nosrednaekim> anto: reinstall the package "libgtk2.0-0"
[22:18] <anto> sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0 ?
[22:19] <Ch1ppy> anto: any ideas?
[22:19] <anto> Ch1ppy: have you tried firefox/ or konq?
[22:19] <take34> sudo... E: Couldn't find package mozilla-firefox
[22:19] <Ch1ppy> anto: yes, it works in those
[22:19] <take34> same for mozilla
[22:20] <take34> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[22:20] <take34> i think it is because i deleted firefox from adept
[22:20] <anto> take34: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:20] <anto> take34: nah
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> !info mozilla-firefox
[22:20] <ubotu> Package mozilla-firefox does not exist in gutsy
[22:20] <take34> ;)
[22:20] <anto> nosrednaekim: no difference
[22:21] <nosrednaekim> anto: you are in your old installation now?
[22:21] <anto> nosrednaekim: yes
[22:21] <take34> can i reinstall adept itself ?
[22:21] <anto> nosrednaekim: i was going to reinstall if i didnt find a solution for this problem
[22:21] <Ch1ppy> can anyone help me get flash working in opera?
[22:21] <take34> from cd ?
[22:22] <anto> take34: why would you want to do that!
[22:22] <anto> take34: do what i said
[22:22] <take34> did
[22:22] <anto> and?
[22:22] <sourcemaker> how can I configure the nvidia glx card?
[22:22] <take34> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:22] <take34> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:22] <take34> is only available from another source
[22:22] <take34> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[22:23] <sourcemaker> it's a 7600 GT
[22:23] <parabol0x> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Flash_Player_9_Update_3_for_linux_released
[22:23] <anto> is the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf < X11 server for graphics
[22:23] <parabol0x> that should help get it working in Opera
[22:23] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[22:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:23] <take34> i can share a desctop
[22:23] <pteague_work> apparently kget doesn't preserve server timestamps :(  anybody know of a gui download manager that does?
[22:23] <anto> nosrednaekim: any suggestions? (if i write sudo apt-get remove gtk2.0-0  --purge it asks if i want to remove 700mb of files
[22:23] <sourcemaker> ubotu: Yes... I know this... but it does not work.... it seems that there is a configuration missmatch after i have plugged a new card....
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> anto: thats gonna remove every gtk app.
[22:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...reinstall the driver.
[22:24] <anto> nosrednaekim: Duh :S
[22:24] <jamie_> Hello. I am having problems with Kubuntu detecting my wireless network card. Please help
[22:24] <anto> nosrednaekim: what should i do then?
[22:24] <sourcemaker> Daisuke_Laptop: yes... i have also tried this
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> anto: I think there is a --reinstall which will remove it then reinstall, but doesn't remove anything that dpends on it.
[22:25] <anto> nosrednaekim: that is what i did
[22:25] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: What is the exact error in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?  Please use pastebin.
[22:25] <anto> nosrednaekim: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0
[22:25] <Ch1ppy> parabol0x: that's what I'm trying, it's not working
[22:25] <anto> nosrednaekim: but i still have the same error
[22:25] <row_> if I want to install latest version of imdbpy what is the best method for creating a .deb?
[22:25] <row_> +python module
[22:25] <nosrednaekim> anto: you know....removeing all gtk things is probaly not gonna kill you since you are using kubuntu.,
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> row_: go to #ubuntu-motu
[22:26] <anto> nosrednaekim: well i aint done that because i know that it will remove all the good apps :( http://pastebin.com/m17c2d9b
[22:26] <jamie_> I have a new Gatgeway laptop. Kubuntu doesn't recognize my wireless network card. lspci doesn't show it.
[22:26] <anto> nosrednaekim: thats a pastebin of the result of locate gtk if it helps
[22:26] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: what type of chipset?
[22:27] <jamie_> it is AMD 64
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> anto: but you can reinstall all of those apps later!
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: what wireless chipset?
[22:27] <anto> nosrednaekim: i dont realy think thats the problem
[22:27] <take34> so i did  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox - what is then ?
[22:27] <jamie_> oh i'm not sure how can i find out
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> take34: no errors?
[22:28] <Ch1ppy> Can anyone help me get flash working in opera?  I'm trying the flash installer, it works and the file is properly setup, but opera still doesn't show any flash content
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: look in windows..
[22:28] <take34> nosrednaekim:
[22:28] <take34> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:28] <take34> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:28] <take34> is only available from another source
[22:28] <take34> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[22:28] <sourcemaker> NeoFax:  Kernel Version 9631 but X Module Version 9639
[22:28] <jamie_> windows?
[22:28] <jamie_> is that the same as using lspci?
[22:29] <take34> nosrednaekim: cant get what is this about
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: it does have windows right? well, go in there and see what type of chipset it has, it will be a braodcom,atheros or raLink
[22:29] <jamie_> no laptop started with visa...but now it only has kubuntu
[22:29] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: OK, then you will need to update your kernel modules to the 9639 driver.  Let me check what package it is in.
[22:29] <jamie_> i'm using it now, but with a wired connection
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> take34: try this run "apt-cache search firefox" and pastebin the results
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: ah... then look up your laptop on www.linux-laptops.net that may give you a hint
[22:31] <jamie_> ok ty brb
[22:32] <take34> nosrednaekim:
[22:32] <take34> apt-cache search firefox
[22:32] <take34> kubuntu-docs - kubuntu documentation
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[22:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:32] <nosrednaekim> take34: thats it?
[22:32] <take34> yes
[22:32] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: have you found?
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> take34: ah... repository problems then... ok go into the adept_manager->adept->manage repositories and turn on all of those repositoires (besides the course one)
[22:33] <nosrednaekim> !repositories | take34
[22:33] <ubotu> take34: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[22:35] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Are you on Feisty or Gutsy?  Also, do sudo apt-cahe search nvidia | grep nvidia-kernel-common and post the result.
[22:35] <ScorpKing> nite guys.
[22:38] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: what to install? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46890/
[22:38] <alesan> hi, I am working outside the X environment, how can I configure a USB keyboard to NOT send characters to the character console?
[22:39] <alesan> I wanna use only the integarted PS2 keyboard for the console
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> where is intelikey when we have questions like this?
[22:39] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: When you did the sudo apt-cache search nvidia this is all it found?  Also, are you on Gutsy?
[22:39] <alesan> what do you mean
[22:39] <take34> nosrednaekim: IT WORKED OUT
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> take34: sweet :D
[22:39] <alesan> and, how do I get rid of delphin
[22:40] <milfhunter> dolphin?
[22:40] <take34> nosrednaekim: so i removed the package from the adept that was the problem
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> alesan: intelikey is mr. only-command-line-interface
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> take34: no, your repositories were messed up.
[22:40] <take34> nosrednaekim: kk, btw how to make a keyboard layout hot keys enabled ?
[22:41] <nosrednaekim> !hotkeys
[22:41] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[22:41] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic 2.6.22.4-14.10 is already installed
[22:42] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: is there a known upgrade bug from feisty to gusty?
[22:44] <Artimus> What is the preferred suspend/hibernate function in Gutsy?  I used uswsusp in Feisty, it worked well, but if there's a better way, I'd love to hear it.
[22:45] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Here is the upgrade problem and the possible fix: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/15652
[22:49] <NeoFax> I am having a problem with the following error:  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient_r
[22:50] <trappist> NeoFax: maybe install libmysqlclient15-dev
[22:51] <NeoFax> trappist: It is installed and it was working fine compiling programs until recently.
[22:52] <trappist> NeoFax: maybe the app you're compiling is looking for it in the wrong place?
[22:52] <steve_> hello
[22:52] <jamie_> i'm back the link didn't help =(
[22:53] <steve_> new here
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: couldn't find your laptop?
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> hey steve_
[22:54] <jamie_> it looked like the site had been taken down. this is a gateway T-1616
[22:54] <steve_> hello just installed kubuntu but dont understand much
[22:54] <NeoFax> trappist: When I look at the configure output it shows mysql . . . yes; mysql . . .-L/usr/lib/mysql, -lmysqlclient_r.  However, my mysqlclient_r is at /usr/lib and even if I change the config to show /usr/lib the prgram still does not compile.
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> steve_: welcome!
[22:54] <steve_> thanks
[22:54] <steve_> do in need antivirus
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> steve_: if you have question, chances are we can answer them,(or point you in the right direction)
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> !virus
[22:54] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[22:55] <steve_> i cant access my discs where my windows is on
[22:55] <steve_> or any disc for that matter and dont want to lose the data on it
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> !mount
[22:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:55] <trappist> NeoFax: you should have /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.15 as a symlink to /usr/lib/libmysqlclient_r.so.15.0.0
[22:56] <NeoFax> trappist: It is.
[22:56] <trappist> NeoFax: what are you trying to build?
[22:57] <NeoFax> trappist: MaNGOS
[22:57] <jamie_> Does Gateway T-1616 help?
[22:57] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: err sorry, didn't see tha.. just a second.
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[22:58] <nosrednaekim> SportChick: erm wow.... I remember you from bzflag :D
[22:59] <trappist> NeoFax: ok I get the same thing...
[23:00] <NeoFax> trappist: OK, then it is a MaNGOS problem then or a possible mysql_config problem?
[23:00] <trappist> NeoFax: checking that out now
[23:01] <Nonino> Hi all
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> hi Nonino
[23:01] <Nonino> Somebody is able, and happy of helping me with some networking issues?
[23:02] <Nonino> Hi nosrednaekim
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609196
[23:02] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: like what?
[23:02] <ninjagambit> I am new to linux and Intalled fedora 8 it auto set up partitions using freespace on my hard disk Now I have 4 partitions 2 are for winddows
[23:03] <ninjagambit> I was wondering how to do away with fedora completely
[23:03] <ninjagambit> and install kubuntu
[23:03] <Nonino> If i give you a diagram of a topology... could you tell me the mac source that each access point in the net would see?
[23:03] <ninjagambit> if i delete the the partitions will it delete all content in them
[23:03] <ninjagambit> ?
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: just launch the installer, do manual partitioning, and select the mount points for your partitions
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: yes
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: eh?
[23:04] <david__> ninjagambit, you need to format the partitions
[23:04] <Nonino> nosrednaekim: i need to know what happens with the mac address of a packet every time it go thru each hop
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: oh.... wow... ok, never done that, but wireshark might be able to tell you
[23:05] <ninjagambit> can i delete partitions then format the new freespace
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: yes, but it will delete your information.
[23:05] <david__> yes
[23:06] <Nonino> nosrednaekim: the problem is that i'm not able to test it, i need the concept before to develop an application related with that
[23:06] <ninjagambit> thats fine
[23:06] <david__> how do I change my nick to dmcglone?
[23:06] <ninjagambit> i just want to have it blank
[23:06] <david__> !nick
[23:06] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[23:06] <ninjagambit> to do fresh kubuntu install
[23:06] <nosrednaekim> ninjagambit: ah ok... yeah, that should be fine then
[23:07] <david__> ninjagambit, you only need to deete the partitions if your gonna resize them
[23:07] <ninjagambit> yeah i have to
[23:07] <david__> then just delete them and then after you re-create them format them
[23:07] <ninjagambit> fedora requires one for boot 126mb
[23:08] <ninjagambit> and then another
[23:08] <david__> I thought you were putting kubuntu on and removing fedora?
[23:08] <ninjagambit> I am
[23:08] <david__> then why worry about what fedora requires?
[23:08] <jamie_> i think i found the driver, how do i install .tar.bz2?
[23:08] <ninjagambit> but the boot partition isnt large enough now
[23:09] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: well, thats probably a kernel driver,
[23:09] <jamie_> i believe so. is that what i need?
[23:09] <david__> the questions you are asking, I wonder how you even got fedora installed.
[23:10] <trappist> NeoFax: ah, looks like you need libmysql++, the c++ bindings for mysql
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> !ralink
[23:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:10] <trappist> NeoFax: sudo apt-get install libmysql++-dev libmysql++2c2a
[23:10] <ninjagambit> during the manual set up off kubuntu install there is option for primary or logical which one do i use and should i format the swap partion as swap
[23:11] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: I have to go.... please read that wifi-docs page. it should explain how to get your raLink wireless working.
[23:11] <jamie_> that site didn't work
[23:12] <Nonino> can anybody help with some networking concepts?
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: err! well i'm very sorry.
[23:12] <jamie_> is that kernel driver the one i need tho? you sounded as if it wasn't
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> Nonino: #linux may be more helpful
[23:12] <Nonino> nosrednaekim: thanks!
[23:12] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: well, that probably is the right driver,but its also probably installed on your computer.
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> jamie_: does "iwconfig"show any wireless devices?
[23:13] <jamie_> no
[23:13] <jamie_> "no wireless extensions"
[23:13] <nosrednaekim> hrm... well sorry... good luck!
[23:13] <jamie_> ty
[23:14] <NeoFax> trappist: Already had them installed
[23:14]  * genii sips a coffee
[23:15] <david__> I want some of that coffee
[23:15] <david__> black please
[23:16] <david__> where ya at bazhang_?
[23:16] <jamie_> Kubuntu is not detecting my wireless on my laptop
[23:16] <david__> what card you using jamie?
[23:17] <jhutchins> david__: I'll take bourbon and creme in mine.
[23:17]  * genii passes david__ a large black coffee, extra strong
[23:17] <jhutchins> jamie_: You've had the linux hardware support rant?
[23:17] <david__> Ah, tastes great
[23:17] <tekteen> compbrain: u still here?
[23:17] <jamie_> I don't know. this is a new laptop that had vista <wireless worked> and now with kubuntu it is as if doesn't exit
[23:17]  * genii rummages for jhutchins' bourbon
[23:18] <jamie_> i don't know what the support rant is
[23:18] <jhutchins> genii: That's ok, just cream then, i'll add the burbon.
[23:18] <david__> first you need to figure out your model of card
[23:18] <fungos_> how can I format a sata drive? It initializes /dev/md0 but I cant manage it with fdisk
[23:18]  * genii slides a coffee with cream down to jhutchins
[23:18] <jamie_> it is difficult because lspci doesn't show it
[23:18] <tekteen> jamie_: did u chech the restricted drivers manager?
[23:19] <genii> md0 <> sata it's some raid device
[23:19] <tekteen> check*
[23:19] <david__> it's not going to because linux doesn't reconize it yet, because you haven't set it up yet.
[23:19] <jhutchins> jamie_: <rant>Manufacturers of the cards don't supply OS drivers because we could theoretically hack them to make the cards use illegal parts of the radio spectrum.  Only the cards that brave, noble souls have hacked work, but that's most of 'em, dang it!</rant>
[23:19] <lucky_lucas> yeah ski challenge is back
[23:19] <lucky_lucas> anyone had try it under linux
[23:19] <jhutchins> jamie_: sudo lspci | grep Ethernet will show you what chipset you're dealing with.
[23:19] <jamie_> ok ty brb
[23:20] <fungos_> I doenst want raid, just want to use it as a normal ide or something
[23:20] <jhutchins> fungos_: what does fdisk say when you try?
[23:20] <jhutchins> fungos_: sudo fdisk -l?
[23:20] <david__> jamie: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,list/
[23:21] <fungos_> Unable to find /dev/md
[23:21] <jhutchins> fungos_: sudo fdisk -l?
[23:21] <fungos_> ops
[23:21] <jamie_> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E PCI Expres                                                              s Fast Ethernet controller (rev 01)
[23:21] <jhutchins> jamie_: Um, that's the wired one, is there another?
[23:21] <fungos_> no, fdisk -l doesnt show anything to do with that drive. just the master one
[23:21] <david__> Ok jamie, go find your card on that site I specified
[23:21] <david__> Ah thats wired
[23:22] <fungos_> when I try fdisk /dev/md I get: Unable to read /dev/md
[23:22] <genii> fungos_: Does your bios have hardware raid of some kind enabled?
[23:22] <jamie_> no, thats what i mean it doesn't 'see' the wireless. i know it's there it worked on vista
[23:22] <jhutchins> fungos_: It woudl be /dev/md#, starting with 0
[23:22] <david__> jamie, go read the ndiswrapper docs I sent you above
[23:22] <fungos_> when I try fdisk /dev/md0 I get: Unable to read /dev/md0 too :)
[23:22] <jamie_> ok
[23:22] <david__> your problem is beyond the scope of a chat room
[23:22] <jhutchins> Er, no, /dev/... it'd be /dev/sda, with the partitions 1-9.
[23:22] <david__> lOL
[23:23] <fungos_> my bios doesnt support raid.. but the disk itself shows its own "bios"
[23:23] <jhutchins> fungos_: Possibly you need a driver for the sata adapter, although linux is pretty good about that.
[23:23] <david__> a bios on a sata drive? Hmmm thats news to me
[23:23] <genii> might be some Promise controller
[23:23] <jhutchins> david__: bios on a controller, that's normal.
[23:24] <jamie_> i have to know what kind of wireless i have for that site to work
[23:24] <david__> well of course a controller
[23:24] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: My nvidia card is running... ;-) ;-) ;-)
[23:24] <jhutchins> david__: We often walk people through basic native/ndiswrapper/wifi setups, as long as they're willing to try.
[23:24] <jamie_> i went to gateway and in order for them to specify they wanted me to use IE
[23:24] <david__> jhutchins, be my guest then... LOL
[23:25] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: NP.  I am glad I can help someone
[23:25] <fungos_> this drive I just bought, I need to do a physical format in it?
[23:25] <jhutchins> jamie_: ok, sudo lspci then, and look at what you get.
[23:25] <jhutchins> fungos_: Not if fdisk doesn't see it.
[23:25] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: there was a problem with my boot loader... the installed kernel was not loaded... ;-)
[23:25] <david__> in no way am I going to sit here that long
[23:25] <jamie_> only the wired one pops up. do you think this could be a BIOS problem?
[23:25] <jhutchins> fungos_: you might try the gparted live cd, see if it can find it.
[23:25] <david__> see
[23:25] <david__> LMAO good luck jhutchins
[23:26] <fungos_> ok, I will try
[23:26] <jamie_> brb i'm going to search high and low for my wireless card type
[23:27] <david__> I hope you find it
[23:27] <jhutchins> david__: I'm intrigued.  What sort of new wireless hardware might not show up in lspci?
[23:27] <jhutchins> Is it on some other bus?
[23:27] <genii> pcmcia possibly (still lspci should show that) or maybe usb
[23:27] <jhutchins> Even usb cards show up on the pci bus through the bridge.
[23:28] <david__> I didn't say anything about not showing up in lspci, i'm talking about how hard it's going to be to help her if she can't do anything in the first place.
[23:28] <jhutchins> exactly.  It _should_ show up, even as an unidentified device.
[23:28] <jhutchins> david__: You're assuming a gender that has not been clearly indicated.
[23:28] <sourcemaker> is there a beryl installation guide available?
[23:28] <david__> this has nothing to do with gender either.
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> sourcemaker- Beryl has been discontinued
[23:29] <jhutchins> sourcemaker: Pretty sure there is, see #ubuntu-effects and #compiz
[23:29] <jhutchins> sourcemaker: beryl has merged back with compiz.
[23:29] <sourcemaker> jhutchins: thank for information
[23:30] <jhutchins> !compiz | sourcemaker
[23:30] <ubotu> sourcemaker: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[23:34] <tekteen> !botsnack
[23:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[23:35] <tekteen> !coffee
[23:35] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[23:35] <david__> cool, let me try this
[23:35] <david__> !asshole
[23:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asshole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:35] <david__> LOL
[23:35] <latch> lol!!!
[23:35] <LjL> cool
[23:35] <tekteen> :-)
[23:35] <LjL> let me try this
[23:35] <latch> !linus torvalds
[23:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus torvalds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:35] <LjL> i said let me try it :(
[23:36] <latch> looooooool
[23:36] <LjL> !botabuse
[23:36] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:36] <tekteen> !linus
[23:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:36] <stdin> tekteen: stop that
[23:36] <tekteen> ok
[23:36] <latch> sry
[23:36] <stdin> if you want to play with the bot, it responds to /msg
[23:37] <eean> latch: if you want a more fun bot, try out insanity in #amarok ;)
[23:37] <dmcglone> Ha! Ha! I sure got kicked for that word.
[23:38] <stdin> no, you got /removed for it
[23:38] <dmcglone> oh well either way
[23:38] <latch> (omfg! thats awesome!)
[23:38] <dmcglone> I wanted to change my nick from david__ to dmcglone anyhow
[23:39]  * Alethes wonders what the "d" stands for in dmcglone's nick
[23:39] <Alethes> ok not really
[23:39] <Alethes> :D
[23:39] <dmcglone> david of course
[23:40] <dmcglone> Maybe I should change my nick to "fsck_it"
[23:42] <dmcglone> Well last night this place was hoppin with questions. Looks like Kubuntu really does "just work" :-)
[23:42] <sourcemaker> well... I have tested compiz now... it is not really nice :-)
[23:43] <sourcemaker> it's a memory consuming.... not more
[23:43] <dmcglone> I had a couple problems with it when I initially set it up
[23:44] <dmcglone> how do you change your nicks on the fly?
[23:44] <compbrain> use /nick
[23:44] <dmcglone> ah Ok thanks
[23:45] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: this forum is amazing... a lot of geeks here with all the right answers... nice man :-)
[23:46] <dmcglone> I ain't no geek
[23:46] <dmcglone> got the answers, yes, geek, no!
[23:47] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: This is a great channel for alot of linux problems.  I come here as the more in depth sites slam you for some of the slightest sh!t like #debian and #gentoo
[23:47] <genii> sourcemaker: geek = circus performer that eats live animals
[23:48] <NeoFax> trappist: Fixed my problem by making a symbolic link from libmysqlclient_r.so.15 to libmysqlclient_r.so.  The latter file was missing.
[23:48] <dmcglone> Neo and source, you should subscribe to the kubuntu mailing list
[23:48] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: you are right... I have also leaved gentoo...(after using 5 years) *g*
[23:49] <SR-latch> where's the kubuntu mailing list?
[23:50] <dmcglone> http://www.kubuntu.org/forums
[23:50] <dmcglone> oops
[23:50] <stdin> SR-latch: http://lists.ubuntu.com
[23:50] <dmcglone> wrong url
[23:50] <SR-latch> ok ok i found it :D
[23:51] <sourcemaker> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[23:51] <dmcglone> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users
[23:51] <dmcglone> I've been on the list for about 2 years, it's the best mailing list i've ever been on.
[23:52] <dmcglone> we laugh and joke all day long.
[23:52] <SR-latch> thanx guys :D
[23:52] <SR-latch> didn't knew there was one
[23:52] <dmcglone> every distro has a mailing list
[23:54] <LinuxReign> have u guys tried ETQW?
[23:54] <dmcglone> it's pretty slow in here today
[23:55] <dmcglone> no LinuxReign, what is it?
[23:55] <sourcemaker> I have read that the kde 4.0 release will be available this month. Do you think that it is stable for productive use?
[23:55] <LinuxReign> Enemy Territory Quake Wars, http://www.etqw.com/
[23:56] <LinuxReign> it has a Linux installer already
[23:56] <dmcglone> I heard it wasn't going to be all that sourcemaker.
[23:56] <SR-latch> you have to buy the game though
[23:56] <dmcglone> Oh I see linux
[23:56] <SR-latch> i was playing tremoulous
[23:56] <LinuxReign> nice
[23:56] <SR-latch> highly addictive
[23:56] <stdin> sourcemaker: it won't release until around mid jan
[23:56] <sourcemaker> dmcglone: ok...
[23:58] <sourcemaker> stdin: ok... I hope that it won't release unti it is  stable for productive use :-)
[23:58] <stdin> it'll be stable enough, don't expect it to be fully usable for all users until 4.1
[23:59] <LinuxReign> i will wait until kde4 becomes full stable b4 install it on my main system