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| rafal | hello | 00:15 |
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| rafal | ubuntu is quite nice distro (despite some bugs I noticed) :) | 00:16 |
| gaminggeek | bugs in hardy? | 00:16 |
| gaminggeek | or in gutsy? | 00:16 |
| rafal | hmm nope in 7.10 | 00:16 |
| rafal | hardy is the testing version I guess? | 00:16 |
| Pici | Yes. | 00:16 |
| gaminggeek | then your in the wrong channel :) | 00:16 |
| bazhang_ | yup | 00:16 |
| gaminggeek | yea | 00:16 |
| Pici | We're way in alpha still. | 00:16 |
| gaminggeek | so what sexyness is planned for hardy? | 00:17 |
| rafal | I am best alpha/beta tester | 00:17 |
| rafal | perhaps I can help a bit with next ubuntu? | 00:18 |
| bazhang_ | gaminggeek: try the livecd or join the hardy-changes mailing list or both :} | 00:18 |
| gaminggeek | ok :) | 00:18 |
| bazhang_ | rafal: there is a launchpad firefox plugin that lets you easily access launchpad | 00:18 |
| gaminggeek | or I suppose I could look at launchpad :) | 00:18 |
| gaminggeek | but I was just trying to start a convo :) | 00:19 |
| rafal | does it make sense to test in qemu or other virtuall? | 00:19 |
| bazhang_ | gaminggeek: that would be #ubuntu-offtopic | 00:19 |
| rafal | so I can continue work on stable ubuntu, while doing less important stuff in virtuall | 00:19 |
| bazhang_ | rafal: I tried the livecd and then installed it | 00:19 |
| gaminggeek | but it was ontopic for hardy | 00:19 |
| gaminggeek | anyway that doesnt matter I will shut up now | 00:20 |
| jcrawford | how do i get the alpha release and is it just source code or in live cd form? | 01:08 |
| IdleOne | jcrawford: state your problems in here perhaps someone can give you more info or check out blueprints.launchpad.net | 01:08 |
| jcrawford | well I have the BCM4328 wifi card and I cannot get it to be recognized at all (except under lspci) | 01:09 |
| crimsun | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/alpha-1/ | 01:09 |
| crimsun | note that that image does not have today's 2.6.24-1.1 linux, which sports the shiny b43 driver. | 01:09 |
| jcrawford | i have tried using madwifi drivers, even the BCM43xx drivers/firmware but it will not be seen with network manager or wifi-radar | 01:10 |
| jcrawford | i should mention i am o9n a mac pro | 01:10 |
| IdleOne | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/alpha-1/ | 01:10 |
| IdleOne | that was a test sorry for the repeat | 01:10 |
| IdleOne | :) | 01:10 |
| jcrawford | :) | 01:10 |
| jcrawford | crimsun: is there not a cd image with the b43 driver? | 01:11 |
| crimsun | not yet. | 01:12 |
| crimsun | (which I answered above) | 01:12 |
| jcrawford | no you didnt answer that lol you just said that the image you stated did not have it, not that there was not an image yet :) | 01:12 |
| jcrawford | ok cool, maybe i will just wait for the next alpha image then | 01:13 |
| jcrawford | because i wonder if that would help or not | 01:13 |
| jcrawford | may have just sole my mac pro lol | 01:24 |
| jcrawford | if so i am building a nice amd phenom server | 01:24 |
| LimCore | how to set custom DPI like 110 ? | 05:16 |
| RAOF | System->Preferences->Appearance->Font -> DPI | 05:19 |
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| LimCore | how to use skype on amd64 ubuntu? | 06:09 |
| RAOF | Download it & run it, generally. | 06:10 |
| RAOF | (You probably want the static-linked i386 binary) | 06:11 |
| LimCore | RAOF: it fails | 06:11 |
| LimCore | error while loading shared libraries: libQtDBus.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 06:11 |
| LimCore | the lib is therem but only in 64bit verision | 06:11 |
| RAOF | Did you get the statically linked version? | 06:11 |
| RAOF | Failing that, ia32-libs. | 06:12 |
| RAOF | If that doesn't have it, then you can manually futz with things (download the i386 deb with that binary, unpack it, copy the lib to /usr/lib32) | 06:13 |
| LimCore | this is interesting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790 | 06:13 |
| LimCore | RAOF: this script seems to be doing this | 06:13 |
| RAOF | Yup. | 06:13 |
| RAOF | I think that may even be in the archives. | 06:13 |
| RAOF | !info getlibs | 06:13 |
| ubotu | Package getlibs does not exist in gutsy | 06:13 |
| RAOF | !info getlibs hardy | 06:14 |
| ubotu | Package getlibs does not exist in hardy | 06:14 |
| LimCore | hello | 06:14 |
| LimCore | bah, wrong key | 06:15 |
| LimCore | are there plans to put that usable script to next ubuntu? | 06:15 |
| RAOF | I don't think so. It's not really archive material, in my opinion. | 06:15 |
| LimCore | yes, doing it all by hand is much more fun | 06:16 |
| RAOF | Basically, it breaks apt. | 06:17 |
| RAOF | Kinda. | 06:17 |
| LimCore | so what is the correct way to run 32 bit apps like skype in amd64 ubuntu? | 06:18 |
| RAOF | LimCore: To file bugs against the relevant ia32-libs package until it has all the libraries you need. | 06:18 |
| RAOF | But the *real* way to run 32bit apps in x86-64 Ubuntu is to not use crappy proprietary stuff ;) | 06:19 |
| RAOF | There's not really a good way, frankly. | 06:20 |
| RAOF | But the it's only a problem for (relatively few) proprietary programs, so it's hard to really get worked up about it. | 06:21 |
| LimCore | RAOF: so, we do have some open source software ready to replace software with several departments of developers to polish up, QA teams, not to mention hosting costs for milions of users? | 06:28 |
| LimCore | I only tried wengophone, but it didnt worked back then | 06:29 |
| RAOF | LimCore: Ekiga? | 06:29 |
| pbandjco | can anyone help me with a problem accessing my raid array. i get an $MFT has invalid magic error. and it wants me to mount the raid device under "/dev/mapper" ? | 06:29 |
| LimCore | RAOF: isnt ekiga older name for wengo? | 06:30 |
| RAOF | I don't think so. Check it out, it's Gnome's official VoIP app. | 06:30 |
| crdlb | ekiga is gnomemeeting renamed | 06:30 |
| RAOF | Of course, it won't connect to skype's network. | 06:30 |
| LimCore | LimCore: about replacing propertiray... in some places I do not see any alternative... like say Flash | 06:30 |
| LimCore | even if I would say "ok lets ignore milions of flash movies there, I will use something totally different" is there any free format? like OOP is a full replacement for MS doc format | 06:31 |
| RAOF | LimCore: Flash we deal with. | 06:31 |
| RAOF | LimCore: Plus, gnash is getting pretty good. | 06:31 |
| LimCore | don't want to complain.. but gnash seemed to have trouble playing youtube even | 06:32 |
| RAOF | Works now, I think. | 06:32 |
| RAOF | Or maybe not, maybe youtube broke it again. | 06:32 |
| LimCore | tested today on 7.10 amd64, movie itself was very very low quality, and buttons in the embbed player flash where in wrong positions | 06:33 |
| RAOF | Ok. | 06:33 |
| RAOF | Well, we make flashplugin-nonfree work on x86-64 by sticking in a small 64-32bit shim. | 06:34 |
| LimCore | mhm | 06:34 |
| RAOF | Which isn't awesome, but mostly works. | 06:34 |
| pbandjco | any help with mdraid? | 06:35 |
| pbandjco | dmraid | 06:35 |
| RAOF | Basically, proprietary stuff will *always* me more of a pain than open stuff (see the vmware-server stuff in gutsy-partner, for example) | 06:35 |
| RAOF | pbandjco: No, sorry. Although mounting the raid under /dev/mapper seems perfectly reasonable. | 06:36 |
| LimCore | RAOF: on the other hand.. why OS did not invent own, better, flash-like format... or skype-like thing; and make it actually work (from program through QA and polish/help up to marketing/support) | 06:36 |
| pbandjco | RAOF: how would i go about doing that? sorry i have only been using Linux for about 3hrs | 06:36 |
| RAOF | pbandjco: Then this isn't where you want to be asking. This is for support/questions about the development version of Ubuntu, Hardy Heron. If you're new, you *really* don't want to be running this. | 06:38 |
| RAOF | pbandjco: Support for Gutsy (Ubuntu 7.10) and below is in #ubuntu. | 06:38 |
| pbandjco | RAOF: i am on that channel but no one is answering, so i came here | 06:39 |
| RAOF | LimCore: On the skype front: In what way does ekiga not work for you? And on the flash front: probably because flash *exists*. | 06:39 |
| RAOF | pbandjco: You might just have to be patient. #ubuntu is a bit noisy, generally. You may also want to try the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org | 06:39 |
| LimCore | RAOF: will ekiga work if both people are behind NAT/firewall, and are conference calls suported? | 06:39 |
| pbandjco | RAOF: ok thanks | 06:39 |
| RAOF | LimCore: Yes to the first, and I'm not sure about the second. | 06:40 |
| RAOF | LimCore: But probably. | 06:40 |
| LimCore | hmm | 06:40 |
| LimCore | well, then too bad OS is late (same for flash) | 06:40 |
| RAOF | We can still implement flash. That's what gnash is, after all. | 06:41 |
| RAOF | It's a reasonably transparent standard, from what I gather. | 06:41 |
| LimCore | hmm in general I think OS is doing stuff... but it fully catches up after several years | 06:42 |
| vincenz | Is this the place for help with gutsy? | 06:43 |
| LimCore | vincenz: #ubuntu better | 06:43 |
| RAOF | vincenz: No, that'd be #ubuntu | 06:43 |
| RAOF | In some ways it's ahead, in some ways it's behind. I'm not sure how Windows does on network-transparent audio, for example. | 06:44 |
| RAOF | Pulseaudio is *awesome*. | 06:44 |
| LimCore | RAOF: as for skype on amd64 | 06:45 |
| LimCore | can we write a package that will automatically download skype from skype.com, and also install needed 32 bit libs? | 06:45 |
| LimCore | it would be much more comfortable then googling forums... | 06:45 |
| RAOF | Possibly. If that's not against the license. | 06:46 |
| LimCore | or at least write like "Now press ENTER to lunch web browser, click there to Download, and then press ENTER back here to unpack & run" | 06:46 |
| RAOF | No, not really. | 06:47 |
| RAOF | It's in Gutsy-partner, though, isn't it? | 06:47 |
| LimCore | hm? | 06:47 |
| RAOF | Not for amd64, obviously, because they don't support that. | 06:47 |
| LimCore | so.. if we can, then... lets do it :) ? | 06:47 |
| RAOF | Do you have ia32-libs-kde installed? That may well have the library you're after, anyway. | 06:48 |
| LimCore | amd64 not ia32 ? | 06:48 |
| RAOF | ia32-libs-* are a bunch of arch:amd64 packages containing ia32 libraries. Kinda a poor-man's multiarch. | 06:49 |
| LimCore | any plans for full multiarch for ubuntu? | 06:50 |
| RAOF | Not going to happen until Debian do it. That big a divergence from Debian would *kill* universe. | 06:50 |
| RAOF | (Where we have tens of active devs, and ~20K packages) | 06:51 |
| LimCore | Failed to fetch the changelog for wesnoth | 06:53 |
| LimCore | URI was: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/w/wesnoth/wesnoth_1.2.6-1ubuntu2.2/changelog | 06:53 |
| LimCore | I get this all the time, is all ok? | 06:53 |
| hwilde | I have ubuntu installed on a 2G compact flash. it went into read-only mode somehow. why would this happen? I am thinking extreme fragmentation. anybody have links on the topic? | 07:26 |
| hwilde | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133785 | 07:31 |
| hwilde | similar issue described there | 07:31 |
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| BUGabundo | hy there! | 12:46 |
| BUGabundo | azureus (both form reps, and site) gives a core dump on hardy | 12:46 |
| BUGabundo | *from | 12:46 |
| BUGabundo | anyone having that trouble too? | 12:46 |
| void^ | BUGabundo: xcb related? | 13:01 |
| BUGabundo | what's xcb void^? | 13:06 |
| void^ | BUGabundo: well, does it say anything besides core dumped? | 13:07 |
| void^ | (sorry, i'll be away for ~30 minutes) | 13:07 |
| BUGabundo | let me check void^ | 13:08 |
| BUGabundo | java: xcb_xlib.c:82: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c->xlib.lock' failed., void^ | 13:09 |
| BUGabundo | brb | 13:09 |
| crimsun | BUGabundo: that's a bug in sun-bin[56]* | 13:12 |
| crimsun | BUGabundo: use icedtea instead | 13:12 |
| webjames | Hi, has anyone ran hardy in virtualbox? | 13:13 |
| void^ | BUGabundo: as crimsun said, or export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true | 13:24 |
| void^ | (strangely enough, icedtea in hardy doesn't fix the problem for me on 64bit) | 13:27 |
| BUGabundo | back | 13:29 |
| BUGabundo | void^ are you here now? | 13:30 |
| Amaranth | BUGabundo: It's java being stupid with threading, use iceatea instead | 13:30 |
| BUGabundo | so, should I just edit the az script and change the java path, Amaranth ? | 13:31 |
| void^ | BUGabundo: are you on 32bit or 64bit? | 13:31 |
| BUGabundo | 32 | 13:31 |
| Amaranth | I don't think you have to change the path in the script but sure | 13:32 |
| BUGabundo | that way it is always set to iceatea | 13:32 |
| BUGabundo | ok, new prob | 13:33 |
| void^ | ubuntu's azureus script uses icedtea automatically if present, the original script just uses the default jre (java -version) | 13:33 |
| BUGabundo | icedtea-java7-bin: Depends: icedtea-java7-jre but it is not going to be installed ; Depends: libgif4 but it is not going to be installed | 13:33 |
| void^ | libgif<>libungif collission, you can force it with apt-get install icedtea-java7-bin | 13:35 |
| BUGabundo | void^ forcing that lib, removes some other gnome libs. | 13:48 |
| BUGabundo | aint there any other way ? | 13:48 |
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| void^ | BUGabundo: like i said earlier, 'export LIBXCB_ALLOW_SLOPPY_LOCK=true' should fix it | 15:15 |
| LimCore | /j #allegro | 15:16 |
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| BUGabundo | almost LimCore | 15:23 |
| BUGabundo | trying void^ | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | its seems to work. thanks! | 15:26 |
| dr_evil | good evening h3sp4wn | 16:01 |
| h3sp4wn | dr_evil: Hi | 16:43 |
| dr_evil | sorry, need to leave now, the notebook power supply broke down... | 16:45 |
| pwnguin | is there a way to get pidgin to hide the buddy list on startup? | 18:54 |
| coNP[uni] | pwnguin: sure | 18:55 |
| pwnguin | coNP[uni]: and it is? | 18:57 |
| coNP[uni] | I tried to find the setting, but cannot | 18:57 |
| coNP[uni] | It seems to behave so by default | 18:57 |
| pwnguin | well me too | 18:57 |
| coNP[uni] | sorry, I have no more ideas | 18:58 |
| pwnguin | hmm. im on a gutsy workstation right now. maybe it changed in hardy. | 18:58 |
| pwnguin | i'll test there | 18:58 |
| graft | anyone experience an issue with xvideo playback shaking up and down with the latest fglrx drivers? | 22:07 |
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