=== vorian_ is now known as vorian [00:32] javaJake called the ops in #ubuntu () [00:35] first one who says again that i should have chosen other nicknames gets a free ban [00:35] I dont think they're evil... [00:36] i've just restarted them to change the limit from 11 to 12 btw [00:36] we should hopefully get drastically fewer false positives [01:27] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (^lisa19^) [03:09] ? [03:09] ? [03:09] why am i being forewared? [03:09] @btlogin [03:09] i'm registered and stuff [03:10] * Hobbsee waits [03:12] this is a very good question.... [03:12] Ashfire908: this is from #ubuntu? [03:13] yep [03:13] Pici: ? [03:13] Hobbsee: quit message iirc [03:13] * Pici looks [03:14] huh? [03:14] 2007-12-03T05:39:43 *** Ashfire has quit IRC (""rm -R ~/" is not your friend") [03:14] it's a joke [03:14] but fine [03:14] interesting ban choice. [03:14] *I* know its a joke, but there are a lot of people who type commands w/o knowing what they do in #ubuntu [03:15] Ashfire908: You'll remove it then? [03:16] i put it there cause i did that and was going to restore my folder with a backup but the backup was in the folder i deleted. plus, it kinda tells you "don't run" doesn't it? [03:16] i removed it on this comp. one sec... [03:16] How can I join #ubuntu? I keep getting redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic. [03:16] I've followed the instructions but still get redirected there. [03:16] Ashfire908: I had a user ask me earlier what `find ~/ -exec rm {}` did, because they just did it and whated to know what it did. [03:16] i did on this one. let me get it on my other computer. [03:17] s/whated/wanted [03:18] k [03:18] seems like someone *didn't* follow the instructions ;) [03:18] Ashfire908: ban removed, have a nice day. [03:18] k [03:18] Hobbsee: you mean the forward? or the hostmask choice? [03:18] Pici: neither [03:19] Or the reason? [03:19] mneptok, lol :) [03:19] yes [03:19] I'm alerting an op to allow me back into #ubuntu :) [03:19] ...am i going to get banned for being smart by setting it to "[Joke Removed]" am i? [03:19] Ashfire908: Nah :) [03:19] k [03:19] nah. [03:20] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ [Joke Removed] [03:20] bash: [Joke: command not found [03:20] not dangerous :) [03:20] lol [03:20] feels weird seeing bash again [03:20] Ashfire908: and you're right. the joke was removed. because that new mesg isn't funny! ;) [03:20] Hobbsee: join us zsh users in 2007. [03:21] ......any chance of haveing the joke with /home/ahampe? [03:21] Ashfire908: no. do not put code snippets that can lead to data loss in public automatic IRC text [03:21] mneptok: i'm using zsh already, this is why it's weird seeing bash ;) [03:23] what about echo "you shouldn't run every command you see" > ~/what_are_you_thinking [03:23] that works :) [03:23] I should start using zsh [03:23] assuming no one has a currently existing file called ~/what_are_you_thinking, which is a fairly safe guess [03:24] unless you want me to like put a shell script in my quit message... [03:26] ...ok uh "Don't run everything you see in a terminal unless /dev/brain > /dev/null" is /dev/brain > /dev/null safe? lol [03:26] hahaha [03:26] * Ashfire908 will stop bugging you guys after i get a yes or no [03:26] yeah, i'd say so [03:26] k [05:31] may I have your attention please [05:31] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/~bhavi [05:32] Isnt it contribution? [05:32] what does this have to do with Ubuntu IRC operators? [05:33] my Indian community booed me out saying I m a newbie [05:34] inspite of being an ubuntu member [05:34] if I recall correctly from the last logs you provided, it was due to disruptive mannerisms on your part. [05:34] coolbhavi: we have nothing to do with judging 'contributions' [05:35] and having a ubuntu member designation is irrelevant to this situation [05:35] Ok.... But they called me a fraud [05:35] what do you wish for us to do? [05:36] Isnt answering contributing? I wanted to ask [05:36] yes, that's certainly one way of contributing to Ubuntu. [05:37] then who gave the authority to call me like that [05:37] I think nalioth was there on that channel [05:38] judging from how you came into this channel yesterday and immediately used the ops trigger, probably your IRC mannerisms gave them that impression. [05:38] the other day [05:39] at least you must have some basic respect for a human being right? [05:39] certainly. [05:40] I agree with you that under no circumstances should one member of the Ubuntu community belittle another's skills or contributions, regardless of the level of truth in the statement [05:40] but so far I've yet to see you produce any evidence of such behavior [05:41] https://edge.launchpad.net/~gaurav-2004 [05:41] (but anyway, IRC disputes is beyond my territory, I am not authorized/qualified to handle this situation) [05:41] see this.. for an example [05:41] I am just telling [05:41] if you would like to advance a complaint against various operators, you should prepare accounts of what happened that you feel violates the guidelines [05:43] without contributing to the community actively How can you judge other peoples' contibutions/caliber [05:43] ? [05:43] Its plain sense right? [05:44] please provide us with logs of who you believe is making such judgements. [05:44] yup [05:44] wait a min please [05:45] OK leave it.. Its foss behavior...... [05:47] this is the second time that upon requesting specific examples of the abuse you are reporting, you instead decide to drop it. [05:47] This is only making us less and less willing to take you seriously each time you do this. [05:48] Hey cool...... I m just telling I aint filing anything [05:48] coolbhavi: we don't mind you filing anything, we'd be glad to look at it. Just it's a bit annoying that htis is the second time you've started to file something, used our time, then quickly withdrew [05:49] no just provided an info.. [05:49] As a guideline, if you plan on issuing a complaint regarding any wrongdoing on IRC or other medium, come prepared with appropriate logs so we can actually help [05:49] To keep a watch please anytime [05:49] OK [05:49] Done [05:50] alright, take care, and thanks for your contributions to Ubuntu :) [05:50] no mention mate... I am just doing my bit... [05:51] keep up the good work and congrats on your recent membership [05:51] thank you [05:52] Do keep a watch on the channel if time permits.... Its my sincere request [05:53] ok. Also feel free to flag our attention by coming in here if you see anything out of control in progress [05:53] Done [05:53] :) [05:54] sorry for taking your time [05:54] no problem, we are all here to help :) [05:54] :) [06:17] In ubotu, corruptionoflulz said: what is pi? [06:22] me again... cant we make automatic logging of conversations in an irc channel? [06:23] coolbhavi: there is an official Ubuntu logbot [06:25] OK how to invite it into a particular channel? Info please [06:55] can i be tested please [06:56] madcreation1: you get your client sorted? [06:56] yeah [06:57] where were you banned from, madcreation1 ? [06:58] ubuntu [06:58] i was in freenode [06:58] right. [06:58] you can rejoin #ubuntu now and thanks for your patience :) [06:58] so i'm good? [06:59] sweet [06:59] i wouldn't know about that, madcreation1. your ban has been removed, though :p [06:59] lol thanks [10:30] In #ubuntu, wols said: !ops aussieman is spamming repeatedly. I guess it's a bot [11:18] aussieman is a known [11:21] I just banned him on xubuntu [11:38] * Mez larts Hobbsee [11:40] * Hobbsee larts Mez [11:40] yay! I feel wubbed [11:41] * Gary farts at Hobbsee [11:41] I mean larts [11:44] but I don't know better do I [11:45] pricey, she is picking on me again [11:46] I love you long time [11:46] Sorry Gary, didn't catch that? [11:46] she is picking on me, mwhaaaaa [11:46] she only does it here, as she knows I only have level 5 [11:47] bully [11:47] you really do ask for it, though. [11:47] I so do not [11:47] I think it is funny though [11:48] your reasons suck though [11:48] why? waht's my reason? [11:49] (poor baby)(lies and propoganda)(lies. all lies)(You should know better. Bye!) - those ones [11:49] so lame [11:55] Hobbsee, you're abusing Gary AGAIN? [11:55] * Mez wonders if they're stuck in the playground again [11:56] Mez: of course not. he's merely spreading lies and propaganda again. [11:57] and some soft bark for when you push me over [11:58] wait... abusing implies he has a real use Mez? [11:58] a real use *other* than someone hobbsee can kick [11:59] do I, woooo [12:02] what other use am I then PriceChild [12:02] I thought I was "mostly harmless" [12:04] Gary, I don't know... you'd have to suggest that else the above isn't abuse [12:05] can I be the mascot? [12:08] for PriceChild to abuse too [12:09] heya again [12:09] PriceChild: *wave* [12:10] hi [12:10] so, when bot 1 deop'd bot2 that was because of what? [12:10] Ok so in emergencies... like a bot disappearing, or a netsplit [12:10] i assumed that they are eggdrop's? [12:11] the bots *ensure* that the channel limit is removed... and to do that they all op and -l [12:11] no, i understand why you have multiple bots, probably linked [12:11] so that normal users don't get caught out [12:11] that's why they *all* op [12:11] when emergency is over, they fight for ops by /deop'ing the others [12:11] they are not eggdrops [12:11] 07:02 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-o FloodBot3] by FloodBot1 [12:12] looks like they are doing op checks [12:12] ah [12:12] read up [12:12] ya, i see that [12:12] bit of a chatty design though [12:13] are they able to op each other when services go away? [12:13] no [12:14] its not needed because one is always opped, and able to remove the limit [12:14] what if it goes on the split? :) [12:15] meh the "no" wasn't accurate [12:15] meh depends [12:15] i would think that multiple 24/7 op'd bots on seperate servers would be a more redundant way personally [12:16] nothing wrong with being always op'd. saves a few mode lines as well im sure [12:16] (at least for a bot) [12:16] if they are all opped then you'll get more "chatter" [12:16] if they're all opped, it makes it harder to coordinate them so that only one makes decisions. [12:16] all of them would be changing the limit [12:16] they arent linked to each other like an egg are they? [12:17] I don't know how an egg is linked [12:17] its just like how irc servers link to each other [12:17] they aren't "irc bots" in the way you normally think of them [12:17] they have a big "party line" they can pass stuff between each other with. commands included [12:18] well, they don't understand /ctcp so they'd have to have a direct IP <-> IP connection to each other [12:18] thats hows you link egg's [12:19] basically just a private command and control channel, like ftp [12:20] really, it is a good design to have though. tends to work well for what you are doing i would think [12:21] just a private channel where they talk to each other? :/ They already do that. [12:21] The point is, if the network is about to break.. that connection is about to go too so they attempt to +o [12:21] yes, sorta. except egg's link directly to each other to deal with splits [12:22] egg's and channel bots tend to work better when they are linked togethere, run on multiple machines and multiple networks [12:23] this may not be an egg of course, but this kind of design if very standardised i think [12:35] PriceChild: ping [12:39] Pici, pong [12:40] PriceChild: I need to talk to you about Pelo. [12:40] Unless someone has already mentioned it to you. [12:41] Nope haven't heard anything :/ [12:41] *reads up on him*( [12:52] is "" a rude nickname or am I being stupid? [12:52] * Pici doesnt have a problem with it [12:52] could be queen of craps for all we know ;) [12:54] needs a +b [12:54] Gary, ... : P [12:55] elkbuntu: I gave him the !id and !english factoids earlier. [12:55] Pici, ok thanks [12:56] id based off ip address, that could be any language or just gibberish [13:12] morning [13:12] afternoon even [13:14] Morning :) [13:49] * Maryel (n=marisha@cdma-149-87-40.msk.skylink.ru) has joined #ubuntu [13:49] * Maryel has quit (K-lined) [13:49] *watches #ubuntu* [13:51] good spot [13:52] haha. that's what you get for using CDMA. [13:52] jdong, given the country, im guessing there is alot of outdated technology in use [13:52] jdong, cdma? [13:52] elkbuntu: plus, they don't get the benefits of a government price-fixed monopoly, like they do in these wonderful States. [13:52] :D [13:53] what's the fun without the $90/month bills and carrier lockin? [13:53] PriceChild: cellphone technology [13:53] PriceChild: i.e. competitor to GSM [13:55] australia's ditching cdma anyway [14:06] * Amaranth wants LTE [14:06] hi, I said the f word in #ubuntu, now i am banned, for how long is this [14:06] ? [14:06] one second please [14:06] k [14:07] LjL: ping? [14:07] JesperHuijgens, it's usually just a warning, unless you keep saying it. but i banned you for spamming, what was that link? [14:08] Amaranth, LTE? [14:08] LjL: It's an online simcity clone [14:09] well, i said fuck because i pasted that message, I copied my question, but after that i copied that link, it was a game and i wanted to remember it, but i wanted to ask my question again, so i pasted that link [14:09] dont ban me now :P [14:09] LjL: He was talking about lincity with someone [14:09] yes [14:09] JesperHuijgens, careful with the language in the future please. feel free to rejoin [14:09] thanks [14:09] can i ask questions here to? [14:10] nope, this is not a support channel in any way [14:10] i am new here, and dont know where to ask [14:10] not unless they're related to channel operation [14:10] #ubuntu? [14:10] okay [14:10] JesperHuijgens, #ubuntu is the general support channel, then people might direct you to more specific channels, if there are any [14:10] !channels > JesperHuijgens (JesperHuijgens, see the private message from Ubotu) [14:11] It's also apparently a pyramid thing [14:11] your cities population grows when people visit [14:12] k [14:12] well, everybody thanks [14:34] JimGrey: Greetings, how can we help you? [14:34] I was forwarded to #ubuntu-read-topic [14:34] i have changed to 8001 [14:34] JimGrey: standby for testing. [14:34] and upgraded my router [14:34] k [14:34] JimGrey: Allright, you seem to be okay, let me go ahead and lookup/remove the ban. [14:35] thx [14:36] JimGrey: Allright, you may rejoin #ubuntu. We ask that you part this channel though if you have no further business here. [14:36] ok, thx [14:37] pici-the-advance-thinker [14:38] JesperHuijgens, it's advised you dont lurk in this channel as we occasionally get some nasty people in here, so when you're ready, please /part :) [15:13] nasty people? I'm not nasty :'( [15:34] Gary, no, i was referring to hobbsee ;) [15:35] * ikonia burns hobbsee [15:35] Do we have a factoid for Ubuntu derivatives? [15:35] ahh, thats right, pick on her when she ain't here [15:36] Pici: !notubuntu : what you are trying to use is not ubuntu, shut up, stop asking about it, don't argue, go ask their support [15:36] Gary: its the only way I could survive [15:37] Gary, do you think i'd be silly enough to pick on her while she's here? [15:37] elkbuntu: I'm not stupid ! [15:37] I do [15:38] you wooses [15:38] * ikonia bottles it [15:38] Pici, I trust you're monitoring Sean| ? [15:38] MenZa, me too [15:38] Gary, i have to share a country with her, it's a little more dangerous for me :) [15:38] Gary, :) [15:38] hey elkbuntu [15:38] elkbuntu, haha [15:38] elkbuntu: but that means you can also give her some of your home baking that we miss out on [15:38] MenZa, I mean I am monitoring him [15:38] Gary, I figured. :) [15:39] not that pici needs to monitor me :p [15:39] ikonia, you mean *share*?! [15:39] MenZa: He parted. [15:39] * MenZa monitors Pici [15:39] of course share [15:39] oh, hes back. [15:39] Pici, and rejoined. :P [15:39] he's quiet in #ubuntu [15:39] but jabbering in #ubuntu-offtopic [15:39] ikonia, be happy [15:39] MenZa: I am happy [15:39] :D [15:39] * MenZa transfers some happiness from ikonia to himself. [15:40] ha ha h [15:40] I'm happy too [15:40] MenZa: not cool at your end ? [15:40] Yeah, I'm good [15:40] good good [15:40] Can't have enough happiness, though. :P [15:40] infact I'd say I am totally gay :-D [15:40] MenZa: you weren't referring to poop, were you? [15:40] Gary: . . . [15:40] * ikonia knows more about gary now [15:40] Pici, the other words... he used the sh word too [15:41] Gary: I know. [15:41] Pici, gay used to mean happy, in old english [15:41] I know ;) [15:41] Gary, still does [15:41] technically [15:41] Pici, what Gary said, and then continued to walk the line by saying 'poop', and now, apparently, Apple Q 'screwed' him over. :P [15:42] he's come to life in #ubuntu [15:42] I wonder why [15:42] He was just /removed from #ubuntu-offtopic [15:43] I warned him [15:43] he's just left #ubuntu after calling you a fag [15:43] and he is not banned... yet [15:43] *!*sean@adsl-65-70-88-233.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net [15:43] :P [15:46] Gary: I'm a bit distracted, you might want to oh.. nevermind, I see. [15:46] lol [15:46] : ( [15:51] Gary: fixed [15:53] I set a ban for him in #ubuntu as well. [15:58] I wasn't gonna ban him, but anyways :-) [15:58] well but i was [15:58] :p [16:16] http://picpaste.com/_ubuntu_stats.png [16:17] in case you guys are curious. Although, mind the 2 "dips" in the chart. Most likely just periods when my db was down for maintenance [16:41] support in #ubuntu please. [16:42] ta menza [17:01] * Kyral_Laptop (n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral) has joined #ubuntuforums [17:01] heyo [17:01] In a couple days, I shall no longer carry this cloak [17:01] * Pici shrugs [17:02] Hmmm.... I wonder why that is... maybe perhaps he is reaching the end of two years? [17:02] !no mountiso is To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [17:02] I'll remember that LjL [17:03] Aha... "Joined on 2005-12-05" [17:04] does Kyral not want the cloak, I'm sure that could be removed... [17:05] nalioth, about cloaks that have expired... if I get a list, can you remove them? [17:07] I thought he parted Ubuntu in ancient times.... I'm surprised he still carries it [17:07] indeed [17:10] well, no need to be here anymore, thanks PC. [17:11] pc? [17:11] pricey.; [17:11] oh.. thats you. [17:11] yes.; [17:11] pc is also my nickname somewhere else. [18:58] Pici: why do you ban like that? *!user@host* instead of *!*@host ? [18:59] crdlb: Thats what irssi does for me, I should look into fixing it. [19:00] I admit, it is weird. [19:00] /set ban_type host [19:00] Thanks! [19:32] its not completely wierd [19:32] helps stop evaders in a different way [19:35] PriceChild: but it's trivial to evade [19:35] any ban is trivial to evade if you see the ban placed [19:36] most people are at least somewhat inconvenienced by a full host ban [19:36] except for those that get a new ip address with each connection :/ [19:36] indeed [19:36] which that one would have stopped? (didn't see the ban) [19:42] any staff around ? [19:42] usually [19:43] nalioth, are you allowed to tell me if a nick has a cloak assigned to it, and if so, what that cloak is ? [19:44] see #freenode [20:22] In #ubuntu-offtopic, MenZa said: !meetings is Meetings for Ubuntu teams are held in #ubuntu-meeting. Also see @schedule for the next few meetings. [20:30] a problem with that is that @schedule doesn't work outside of a couple of channels, and not in query either... [20:31] !no meetings is Team meetings are help in #ubuntu-meeting, see « /msg ubotu logs » for transcripts. [20:31] I'll remember that LjL [20:31] I'll remember that LjL [20:32] Ubotwo`: nick Ubotwo === Ubotwo` is now known as Ubotwo [20:32] !no meeting is meetings [20:32] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [20:32] !no meeting is meetings [20:33] You are editing an alias. Please repeat the edit command within the next 10 seconds to confirm [20:33] !no meeting is meetings [20:33] I'll remember that ompaul [20:33] LjL, ? [20:33] ompaul, that feature has been there for a while [20:35] LjL, you had not repeated that, that was all [20:35]