=== cody-somerville_ is now known as somerville32 [00:22] i can't get xubuntu GG to install on my old sony vaio... would an older version like DD be more likely to work? [00:31] <- laughing at myself, was wondering what gg and dd was, then it hit me that its the version name :) [00:33] yep. know the answer? :) [00:34] pumpkinhea1: generally a new version would have more drivers etc, but its worth a shot. Where in the install does it bomb? [00:36] pumpkinhea1, i don't know the answer because im still relatively new to linux [00:37] i would be around 1 month already... so far so good [00:38] @thruxton well the desktop starts to load, but the taskbar never appears. i was able to get the install dialogue box but sat empty for several mins [00:38] i'm afraid there just aren't enough system resources, or something. is DD more resource-light? [00:39] pumpkinhea1: it may be, yes, not sure. You could launch the taskbar or panel from a terminal though and save the session so it will start next time [00:40] thruxton: what is the launch command pls? [00:41] pumpkinhea1: open a terminal and type: xfce4-panel [00:41] or even: xfce4-panel & [00:41] save the session and exit, then log back in [00:41] thruxton: ok ty will try. tyvm [00:41] no problem [00:42] thruxton, do you use xubuntu? [00:42] i mean right now? [00:42] nantax: yes [00:42] gg? [00:43] 7.10 [00:43] okay have you tried remapping your win key to show the xfce pop up menu? [00:43] i have been trying to do this since day one [00:43] but i dont know how [00:44] if you can help me on this, then i would appreciate it very much [00:44] nantax: not yet, ive done it in debian, but to map it for use in emacs. What have you tried? [00:45] nantax: btw, I'm in a fishing camp in northern ont, so if i seem a bit laggy thats why.. :-) [00:45] settings -> keyboard settings -> shortcuts -> add theme (can't edit the default) [00:45] made one theme then add shortcut [00:46] command is xfce4-popup-menu [00:46] nantax: i think you need to look into xmodmap [00:46] then when it asks to press a key, i press the winkey and it registers as super+super_L [00:46] oh, hmm [00:46] and when i exit the dialog and press the winkey, nothing happens [00:46] let me try.. [00:47] but when i press ctrl+escape (default hotkey) the menu shows up [00:47] thanks, much appreciated [00:48] nantax: same result as you [00:49] okay thanks, that makes it better [00:49] nantax: in xev, does it register as key 115, Super_L? [00:49] since its not only me [00:50] state 0x40, keycode 115 (keysym 0xffeb, Super_L), same_screen YES, [00:50] i thinks so [00:52] nantax: ok do this.. [00:52] xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = F13" [00:52] (in a terminal) [00:52] then re-edit your short cut [00:53] and press the left win key, it should now show f13 [00:53] okay give me a minute [00:54] then try the key, your menu should work, so all you need to do is place: keycode 115 = F13 in your ~/.xmodmaprc [00:55] okay that worked [00:55] so is this f13 thing a kludge? [00:55] no, not a kludge at all [00:55] what is F13? [00:56] its the key that xmodmap uses internally, dont worry about that :) [01:00] okay thank you [01:00] and may i ask why the default super+super_l does not work and remapping it to f13 does? [01:00] is this a bug? [01:01] and in xev pressing the win key returns super+L [01:01] but when pressing it in the keyboard setting makes it super+Super_l [01:01] just curious :) [01:06] nantax: I'm not sure to be honest, xmodmap is a part of X afik, as is xev, but oh well [01:06] lol [01:06] i just followed what you suggested and already saved the file named .xmodmaprc [01:06] hopefully it will work until the next reboot [01:07] and how do you map multiple keys [01:07] i want to change win+r to run like alt+f2 [01:07] and also win+e for thunar, ala windows explorer [01:07] and win+d to show the desktop [01:08] and win+m to minimize all, heheh, i not an avarage window user and i like to use shortcuts, bad habit die hard [01:09] and also happy fishing, may you catch a big one [01:10] thats a little more tricky, i *think* its possible to use the win key as a modifier, but i have never tried that [01:11] yeah, i will wait, im sure that it can be done, part of the learning cycle i guess [01:11] sooner or later the solution will come, specially when your not looking for it [01:11] lots of fun stuff to learn with linux :) [01:12] that is so true, im still in the middle of making a decision on what window manager to use [01:12] fluxbox, icewm, enligtenment ahhh so many to choose from, it's mind boggling [01:14] does anyone know if CONFIG_MD_RAID5_RESHAPE=y in 7.10????? or how to find out? I don't know how to compile ubuntu myself but will earn if I have to [01:14] hmm according to man xmodmap you can define extra modifiers [01:15] thyrax: grep CONFIG_MD_RAID5_RESHAPE /boot/config* [01:16] I havn't even installed it yet :) [01:16] thyrax: for me, on 7.10 it =y [01:16] downloading now I wanted to the most up to date .iso [01:16] oh cool thanks did you just download it from the ubuntu website? [01:16] is it an alternate? [01:16] is it for x86 systems? [01:17] its from xubuntu, 64bit desktop version [01:17] oh ok [01:17] I have athlon xp so I'll be going with the x86 version i hope it is the same [01:17] what about mdadm is it already included? [01:18] nantax: try them all, xfce4 is the best of the bunch for my needs, its activlly developed and not to resource heavy [01:19] is xubuntu the lightest ubuntu version? [01:19] thyrax: apt-cache shows me mdadm - tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID) [01:19] i would agree to that thruxton, fluxbox is too skinny for my taste, enlightenment is kinda confusing [01:19] so its in the archive yes, not sure if its installed by default [01:19] I want it to run as a server but i still want a gui. does having extra applications slow down the boot process? [01:20] xfce is just right, functional, useable, and I just recently switched to xubuntu and the interface is not to far away with winxp [01:20] nantax: have you seen elive? its pretty slick, but still somewhat beta AFAIK [01:20] * thruxton nods [01:21] i tried setting up samba on xubuntu it was a nightmare [01:21] i think i will hang on to xfce and maybe use enlightenment for eyecandy effects on an old pc [01:21] i would like to learn samba to [01:21] so this machine can connect to the office windows 2003 domain [01:21] xfce didn't have it integrated in anyway was hell to share a folder over the network [01:21] lol [01:21] so i guess i will have problems there [01:21] were you able to make it work? [01:22] no I wasn't I just ended up uninstalling xubuntu [01:22] when you said xfce didn't have it integrated to share folder over network, what does it mean? [01:22] is this the fault of thunar ? or you can install an alternate file manager that supports network share work? [01:23] in gnome if you right click a folder I believe it allows you select if you want to make the folder a samba share [01:23] im still using xubuntu stand alone [01:23] xfce didn't have that [01:23] not sure nantax [01:23] i scratched my head on that xubuntu install [01:24] I wondered why samba was such a chore on ubuntu [01:24] lol [01:24] well that is out of my league at the moment [01:24] i managed to get it set up on gnome but went to xubuntu hoping for a lighter install [01:25] okay i have a question, what is this small icon next to the upper right hand icon [01:25] I only managed to get it set up on gnome after copying and pasting commands in the terminal [01:26] the one that looks like a diamond [01:26] what does it do? [01:26] a simple intuitive gui would have been sweet [01:51] what makes xubuntu better than ubuntu(gnome) [01:51] They say its lighter but how much? [01:54] thyrax, It runs noticeably faster [01:55] somerville32 do you know how to set it up so that you don't have to put in a password at boot and to do anything in the control panel? [01:56] any documentation for setting up samba on xubuntu specifically [01:56] everything seems geared towards ubuntu with gnome [01:56] gedit commands to edit config files etc [01:56] thyrax, Did you install Xubuntu on top of Ubuntu? [01:57] i did the first time [01:57] on the minimal install [01:57] so gedit wasn't included and other such apps [01:57] I mean the mini iso [01:57] thyrax, file bugs [01:58] file bugs? [01:58] !bugs [01:58] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [01:58] I don't think it was a bug somerville32 [02:00] thyrax, If something is trying to use gedit by default in Xubuntu, it is a bug. [02:00] (ie. from the default install) [02:00] oh no I mean the tutorials [02:01] Ah [02:01] mousepad is our editor [02:01] I was asking if there was documentation to set up samba on xubuntu [02:01] yes but you know how the tutorials all have directions geared towards gnome [02:01] i can't find any geared towards xubuntu [02:03] I installed ubuntu off the mini Iso because i wanted xubuntu even lighter [02:04] all I need is mdadm for raid and for software raid and samba [02:04] is there a site that has documentation on this geared towards xubuntu? [02:05] Just use the ubuntu docs [02:05] It is the same base system [02:05] I found one forum that said not to bother trying to set up samba on thunar but to uninstall it and install konqueror(sp?) [02:06] Bad idea :] [02:06] yeah i tried it [02:06] but thunar is a part of xubuntu it seemed and stuff stopped working [02:06] i thought i just did it wrong [02:06] i ended up uninstalling ubuntu [02:07] xubuntu [02:07] * somerville32 nods. [02:08] so now I'm about to download 7.10 and not sure if I should go with gnome [02:08] or xubuntu [02:10] xubuntu cos it's lighter and faster and ideal for a system that i need to be stable and a file server or gnome which is easier to configure samba in [03:08] hey everyone, im having trouble installing build esential, here is the strange error im getting, can anyone help [03:08] http://pastebin.com/d6b71ad7b [03:09] I have been googling for about an hour now with no working solutions [03:12] annihilus: lsb_release -r && apt-cache policy g++ [03:13] whoa, whats that do? [03:14] crimsun, just curious [03:14] `man lsb_release apt-cache` [03:16] crimsun, do you want me to pastebin the results or is there something specific to look at [03:16] the former. [03:16] & the latter, for that matter. [03:18] http://pastebin.com/d2b7e1105 [03:19] annihilus: I presume the cd-rom for gutsy is loaded in the optical drive? [03:19] was when running that yes [03:20] and `apt-cache policy build-essential` ? [03:20] (need output pastbinned) [03:20] pastebinned, even [03:22] http://pastebin.com/d23aa342 [03:22] thats with hte Xubunutu cd out of hte drive [03:24] sudo apt-get install build-essential [03:24] lol, sry al [03:25] it's likely an apt-source issue with libc6 [03:25] i.e., are you using the proper libc6 package? [03:26] using whatever is standard on the xubuntu igutsy install [03:27] sudo apt-get check [03:27] pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list [03:27] sudo apt-get check finished normally [03:29] (you'd need the cdrom mounted if you're going to contnue using the cd:// line) [03:29] continue, even [03:31] http://pastebin.com/d1d9aebd5 [03:33] if you're connected to the 'net constantly, why not just comment out that first line, then apt-get update && apt-get -f install ? [03:33] (and then you should be able to apt-get install build- [03:33] essential [03:33] ) [03:34] cool, lemme give that a try [03:35] sudo apt-get update [03:35] or is that not necessary [03:35] see my above comment ;) [03:36] im sorry, been a long day [03:37] still getting the same errors unfortunately [03:38] walk the dependency chain manually. [03:39] some package you have is not from the Ubuntu archive [03:39] okay, ill post it all as I follow it into a single pastebin [03:42] is there a better frontend for fceu? [03:42] gfceu is terrible [03:44] anyone know how to set it so I don't need a password to sign in or run commands [03:45] crimsun, okay, so it turns into a merry go round, http://pastebin.com/d254e9dc7 [03:46] thyrax, sudo gdmsetup [03:46] annihilus: ah, duh. [03:47] glibc | 2.6.1-1ubuntu9 | gutsy | source [03:47] glibc | 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 | gutsy-proposed | source [03:47] glibc | 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 | gutsy-updates | source [03:47] annihilus: you're missing two critical pools, gutsy-updates and gutsy-security [03:47] okay [03:47] so how can i fix this [03:47] add them [03:48] im sorry, I am very new to linux, what are these added to [03:48] copy your enabled archive.ubuntu.com line twice, and change gutsy to gutsy-security and gutsy-updates, respectively [03:48] /etc/apt/sources.list [03:49] you'll then have three enabled archive.ubuntu.com lines: one for gutsy, another for gutsy-security, and another for gutsy-updates [03:52] crimsun, worked like a charm, thanks much, this is what I am coming to love about the Ubuntu community === thomas__ is now known as The-Kernel [06:48] good afternoon to all, (dont know about the time in your place but its 2:48 in the afternoon here) :P [06:51] guys, the wireless dock app thing keeps asking me for some password every time i log in [06:52] ....so that it can access my stored WPA pass [06:52] how do i make it stop? [06:57] you would need to get the gnome keychain integreated with pam [07:10] what does that mean zoredache? [07:12] I haven't tested it... but it means doing something like what is described here... [07:12] http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/ [07:16] thanks mate! === total-luser is now known as totalwormage [09:10] egister to vote Now at: http://www.theglobalvote.org/index.php?action=member http://www.theglobalvote.org/ look at that [10:29] egister to vote Now at: http://www.theglobalvote.org/index.php?action=member http://www.theglobalvote.org/ look at that [10:31] aussieman__: don't psam [10:31] spam [11:01] TheSheep: lol [11:01] 'morning [11:01] :D === FlashWolf is now known as FlashWolf|out === FlashWolf|out is now known as FlashWolf === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen [12:48] hello everybody [12:48] could somebody help me checking a issue i have [12:49] my inkscape does not work correctly under xubuntu [12:49] sudo aptitude install inkscape [12:49] can somebody check if it works on there box [12:49] the problem is when i type text in inkscape all the laters stick on one place [12:51] http://filebin.ca/kguupb/inkscape-screenshot-0.1.1.jpg [12:51] this my problem ^ [12:52] the black bunch of lines in the corner of the text area should be a line of nice readable text [13:07] somebody? [13:08] TuxCrafter, Does this only happen in Xubuntu? [13:08] somerville32: thats what i am tryig to figure out [13:08] it works on fedora and a fresh install of ubuntu [13:08] TuxCrafter, search at bugs.launchpad.net/Ubuntu [13:09] somerville32: maybe you can install inkscape an type some text and see if it works? [13:09] TuxCrafter, I suppose. [13:59] apparently Adobe Flash Player 9 Update 3 (ver 9,0,115,0) was released today. do yall happen to know when that update will be added to the repositories. it doesn't seem like they've added an update for AGES, and i'm getting tired of all the memory leaks. [14:00] emilami, Most likely it'll be uploaded to the development release [14:00] emilami, Hopefully it'll be backported [14:00] emilami, You can bug jdong about getting it backported :) [14:01] XD [14:02] i may just install it straight from adobe as a holdover because i'm tired of rebooting 2+ times a day. i really hope that update will be more stable [14:02] they actually released the linux, mac, and win versions all at the same time for once [14:03] :) [14:03] !backports [14:03] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [14:08] so, basically i just have to go in and edit my /etc/apt/sources.list ? [14:09] Try: applications > system > software sources [14:10] looks like backports are already checked [14:12] i went ahead and added proposed, though. that makes me a bit nervous, but hopefully it won't make things too unstable [14:12] i had bad luck with the unstable stuff breaking my system back when i used gentoo [14:14] I wouldn't use -proposed honestly [14:14] -proposed makes it to -updates eventually [14:14] i looked at what was available and it doesn't make it worth it, anyhow. it was all printer related stuff, timezones, and apt [14:15] somerville32: have you tried inkscape? [14:15] i could not find a related bug on lanchpath btw [14:15] TuxCrafter, Not yet. I'll do it after lunch. :) [14:17] somerville32: ok [14:18] is it good to have "unsupported updates" checked? i don't, but i know there is a lot of unsupported stuff out there... [14:19] emilami, Unsupported updates? That might refer to Universe (where I think flash is). [14:20] i'm going to add that in, then === [1]Netham45 is now known as Netham45 [14:45] hi, how do I define kbd shortcuts like raise/lower window ? === htownandafk_work is now known as codenamekt_work [15:30] somebody that wanted to test if inkscape horizontal text is working with xubuntu? [15:34] http://filebin.ca/kguupb/inkscape-screenshot-0.1.1.jpg [16:02] hi [16:03] i want to compile fceu but none of the files are setup right [16:04] greg@temp-desktop:~/fceu-0.98.15-src$ ./configure [16:04] bash: ./configure: Permission denied [16:06] help? [16:10] sudo? [16:10] nope no help [16:18] cheeseboy, Hello [16:18] !info fceu [16:18] fceu: FCE Ultra - a nintendo (8-bit) emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98.12-3 (gutsy), package size 363 kB, installed size 976 kB [16:19] somerville32, dont want that version [16:19] Funny, I'm updating the gfceu package (0.6) [16:19] cheeseboy, There is a new upstream version? [16:22] somerville32, http://fceultra.sourceforge.net/download.php [16:22] theres one with video recording [16:22] cheeseboy, Just file a bug and request it to be packaged [16:22] cheeseboy, If you really want to compile it yourself, type: sudo chmod +x ./configure [16:23] greg@temp-desktop:~/fceu-0.98.15-src$ sudo chmod +x ./configure [16:23] greg@temp-desktop:~/fceu-0.98.15-src$ sudo ./configure [16:23] configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub [16:23] somerville32: i was wondering if you maybe found a change to install inkscape and test writing a line of horizontal text? [16:24] cheeseboy, chmod +x ./config.sub ? [16:24] TuxCrafter, Could you file a bug and just subscribe me? I'll get to it ASAP [16:25] somerville32: i don't know if it is a bug? [16:25] TuxCrafter, won't hurt :] [16:27] I'm having 2 problems with Xubuntu 7.10. #1... no sound. I'm using an Audigy 1 which is being properly identified... just no sounds from anything. #2 flash player says its installed but when I go to youtube in Firefox it tells me to download the latest version of flashplayer. Do I have to download a newer version for youtube videos to work? [16:27] somerville32, how do i fix? [16:30] cheeseboy, file a bug upstream [16:30] nah [16:32] !sound | BigX [16:32] BigX: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [16:32] !flash | BigX [16:32] BigX: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [16:42] somerville32: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/173943 [16:42] Launchpad bug 173943 in inkscape "gutsy - inkscape - horizontal aligned font characters are not rendered correctly, they are put on each other instead of next to each other" [Undecided,New] [16:43] somerville32: i have to leave this channel now i will be back in a few hours [16:44] thanks in advance [17:16] what do i install for zlib? [17:16] !info zlib [17:16] Package zlib does not exist in gutsy [17:16] !find zlib [17:16] Found: libcompress-raw-zlib-perl, libcompress-zlib-perl, libio-compress-zlib-perl, libio-zlib-perl, libruby1.8 (and 9 others) [17:17] !info sdl [17:17] Package sdl does not exist in gutsy [17:18] !find sdl [17:18] Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 53 others) === d33p__ is now known as luisbg === d33p__ is now known as luisbg [18:09] somerville32: hello, i am back at the channel :-p [18:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/173943 [18:15] Launchpad bug 173943 in inkscape "gutsy - inkscape - horizontal aligned font characters are not rendered correctly, they are put on each other instead of next to each other" [Undecided,New] [18:15] I've gone through all the help and faq's I can... nothing. Anyone want to help me with my sound problem? I have no sound with Xubuntu 7.10. The sound card is detected correctly (Audigy 1) although I think it may be using the wrong driver (emu10k1 instead of amu10k2). [18:17] BigX: have you tried the alsa channel [18:17] they will give you a support script [18:17] you can run it [18:18] it will provide a lot of information so that people can help you better [18:18] you can try [18:19] sudo rmmod -f emu10k1 && sudo modprobe amu10k2 [18:19] bud probably you have to remove all sound modules first [18:19] lsmod |grep ^snd |awk {'print $1'}|xargs sudo rmmod [18:20] BigX: http://alsa.opensrc.org/ [18:31] hmm [18:31] I figured it was something really stupid... [18:32] analog/digital switch just needed to be turned off... [18:32] duh [18:32] BigX: ok nice you got it working [18:32] yeah... [18:32] thanks for your help [18:32] BigX: if the xfce tools bug you, you can use the commandline alsa tools [18:32] like [18:32] alsamixer [18:33] BigX: man -k alsa [18:37] now to get that flashplayer sorted... [20:17] Hey guys I have recently installed Xubuntu 7.10 on my laptop and am trying to use my netgear wg511t card but I need help.. [20:17] abadtooth, what kind of card is it? Wireless, graphics? [20:18] yes wireless.. [20:19] a laptop pcmcia [20:19] abadtooth, and doesn't it work or don't you know how to configure it? [20:19] When I plug it in I go to the manual config and type in all the required info.. but no workie [20:20] And why the manual config? [20:20] thats what it's called [20:20] I click the icon in the top right corner [20:21] Yeah, but aren't you supposed to be able to configure it from there? [20:21] Whats the best cd burning program? (Mostly my backed up mp3's going on a more disposable disk rather that the original) [20:21] RandyboY, not sure, but Xubuntu 7.10 includes Brasero [20:22] it shows a wireless connection thing and has preferences [20:23] abadtooth, but it doesn't list wireless networks in your neighbourhood? (The icon in the top right-hand side) [20:25] When I left click the icon it just drops down the option to "Manual Configuration...." [20:26] By the way are wireless network isn't broadcasted [20:26] Yeah but still, aren't there any other broadcasted networks around? [20:28] no.. I'm in the middle of nowhere :P [20:28] Oh, that explains :P [20:28] And when you select Manual Configuration, it does detect your card? [20:29] Put it this way, I put the card in the wireless connection thing comes up, pull it out it goes away.. [20:29] Other than that I have no clue [20:30] The wireless connection thing? [20:30] (Btw, you are using 7.10 right?) [20:30] this is the first time I've tried to use a wireless card with Linux... [20:30] Yes [20:30] I've been using windows xp on the laptop before, but I hate windows.. [20:31] have been using Ubuntu Gutsy for about a year on my desktop.. [20:31] * vinze knows how it feels :P [20:31] I never see this option http://www.23hq.com/23666/2589725_ad3e570b0242ea8618cf2f6dbd6becc3_standard.jpg [20:32] for the 64/128 bit [20:32] I think that might be the issue? [20:32] abadtooth, ah, you do get that screen? [20:32] Nope [20:33] abadtooth, do you get the screen which you can also call from Applications->System->Network? [20:33] abadtooth, btw, I just now notice I made that screenshot you linked to :) [20:34] that's the the same menu that I get when I click the icon in the top right corner.. [20:34] OK, then at least I know which screen we're talking about [20:34] Does it say "WIreless connection" at the top? [20:35] No, "Network Settings" [20:36] abadtooth, ah, but I mean under the "Connections tab" [20:37] oh.. yes it does then... below that is "Wired Connection" and Modem Connection" [20:37] Yes [20:37] So that means that at least your card is recognized [20:37] That's good :) [20:37] abadtooth, do you use any kind of encryption? [20:38] wep hex [20:39] abadtooth, and you are sure you have selected that and entered the right key in the properties? [20:39]