[00:00] <sourcemaker> stdin: the current live cd is not working for me... there are too much bugs... so I think... how should it be possible to fix all this bugs until mid jan:-)
[00:01] <stdin> because the kde devs will work hard
[00:01] <LinuxReign> unless you have a testing system u should the same
[00:01] <mrdigital> question i have a hd video card are there linux drivers for that?
[00:01] <LinuxReign> hd video card?
[00:01] <mrdigital> yes
[00:01] <mrdigital> Video Card Capable of HD Content
[00:01] <mrdigital> Video out can do 720P
[00:01] <LinuxReign> well, is it a n Ati or nvidia one?
[00:02] <mrdigital> nvidia (EVGA)
[00:02] <Artimus> How can I enable the suspend/hibernate buttons in KDE on a desktop?
[00:02] <LinuxReign> there is 2 ways mrdigital
[00:02] <FireHazard17> I bought a dvd how do I get it to play? I have tried mplayer and vlc so far.
[00:02] <FireHazard17> both utterly fail
[00:02] <FireHazard17> and those are the ones I resort to last after all else fails
[00:02] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: explain
[00:03] <dmcglone> Firehazard17 have you installed the codecs?
[00:03] <LinuxReign> the first one is installing the nvidia-glx-new package through Adept
[00:03] <FireHazard17> Yes?
[00:03] <FireHazard17> lemme check
[00:03] <mrdigital> ok
[00:03] <LinuxReign> the second one will be the best on my opinion
[00:03] <FireHazard17> do you know the package name?
[00:03] <mrdigital> can you pm me the steps so i can copy n paste into email
[00:03] <dmcglone> i'm trying to remember
[00:04] <dmcglone> I usually use kaffeine and when I put a dvd in it automatically installes the required codecs to play dvd's
[00:04] <LinuxReign> mrdigital, I would strongly suggest yuo check this site, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[00:04] <stdin> !envy
[00:04] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:04] <stdin> don't use it
[00:04] <FireHazard17> !dvd
[00:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[00:05] <dmcglone> there is it
[00:05] <dmcglone> :-)
[00:05] <FireHazard17> :p
[00:05] <mrdigital> stdin: dont use what?
[00:05] <LinuxReign> i'm getting better results with envy over the binary package so far, that's my opinion
[00:05] <dmcglone> I hardly ever use IRC, I keep forgetting about those commands
[00:06] <stdin> mrdigital: envy, the script that LinuxReign's link pointed to
[00:06] <teknoprep> hi all
[00:06] <teknoprep> i am not getting a splash screen when i boot up
[00:06] <teknoprep> just a black screen until boot is finished
[00:06] <teknoprep> then i am in the system login screen just fine
[00:08] <mrdigital> so how do i get HD in kubuntu?
[00:08] <LinuxReign> mrdigital, open Adept
[00:09] <crashev> kubuntu failed to install at last step - installing grub - how can I correct this?
[00:09] <LinuxReign> on the search field type nvidia-glx-new
[00:09] <dmcglone> SR-latch, did you join the mailing list?
[00:09] <FireHazard17> stupid x.org
[00:09] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: Can you pm me the steps im not home.
[00:10] <LinuxReign> i cannot pm you, im not registered
[00:10] <dmcglone> crashev, how much memory in the machine?
[00:10] <mrdigital> oh can you email me the steps?
[00:10] <LinuxReign> yes
[00:10] <crashev> dmcglone: 2GB
[00:10] <crashev> dmcglone: i did not make swap partition
[00:10] <mrdigital> mrdigital0@gmail.com
[00:11] <dmcglone> I had the same problem on an older machine because of low memory. doesn't seem to be your case
[00:11] <LinuxReign> ok, i will send you the instructions
[00:11] <crashev> dmcglone: anyway what menu.lst should looks like for grub - how standard one looks like - any special parameters passed to kernel?
[00:12] <dmcglone> I wouldn't know, I don't know menu.lst by heart
[00:12] <blizzzek> bye
[00:13] <SR-latch>  <dmcglone> yup :D
[00:13] <dmcglone> but it doesn't matter what menu.lst looks like, if you can't install grub then it will not do any good anyway
[00:13] <crashev> can someone show me his entry for ubuntu 7.10 in grug conf?
[00:13] <crashev> dmcglone: I will use mu current grub for booting ubuntu
[00:13] <crashev> dunno why it failed at the installation
[00:13] <dmcglone> Ok i'll paste mine on pastebin
[00:13] <crashev> ok, thx
[00:15] <dmcglone> !pastebin
[00:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:16] <dmcglone> here ya go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46893/
[00:16] <dmcglone> SR-latch cool, you will like everyone there
[00:18] <SR-latch>  <dmcglone> yup!!!
[00:18] <user_> Can anyone help me?  Sometimes my laptop screen remains at "battery brightness" even when plugged in.  How do i fix this? (Gutsy)
[00:19] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: did you email it yet?
[00:19] <user_> are there no "power management" schemes in Kcontrol?
[00:19] <kam> anyone know why xorg creates a mouse device linked to dev/input/mice automatically? how do i stp this?
[00:20] <dmcglone> I hope you brought your sense of humor SR. :-)
[00:20] <gausus> re
[00:20] <gausus> i have a problem with wifi on gutsy gibbon
[00:20] <user_> kam: can't you just edit out the devices you don't need?  What problems is it causing?
[00:20] <user_> gausus: what kind of problem?
[00:20] <gausus> suddenly knetworkmanager had stoped to show any wireless networks available
[00:20] <gausus> kwifi still shows all of them
[00:20] <kam> user_,  not in the xorg.conf
[00:21] <dmcglone> just put the pound sign in front of what you want to edit out
[00:21] <kam> breaks my synaptics driver
[00:21] <gausus> iwconfig eth1 scan does it too
[00:21] <user_> kam: even by commenting it out "#": ???
[00:21] <gausus> but i can't see any of them in knetworkmanager  like i used to
[00:21] <kam> its not in the file
[00:21] <kam> at all
[00:21] <kam> created at start
[00:21] <user_> gausus: have you tried restarting in Recovery Mode?
[00:21] <kam> only found out from the logs
[00:22] <SR-latch>  <gausus> this must be something common cause it has happened to me also, in my laptop
[00:22] <dmcglone> weird, my laptop never had this problem
[00:22] <dmcglone> what laptop do you have SR?
[00:22] <user_> gausus: I had a problem with Knetwork Manager on anothe laptop... try using Wicd - it works great
 acer travelmate
 atheros wifi card
[00:23] <dmcglone> I see. I've got an HP
[00:23] <user_> happened to me on a Vaio
[00:23] <user_> On that lappy, i use Wicd, and never had another problem
[00:23] <SR-latch> it must be bugged or something
[00:23] <maverick_> !wicd
[00:23] <user_> Wicd doesn't use HAL, iirc
[00:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:24] <user_> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[00:25] <SR-latch> HAL= hardware abstraction layer?
[00:25] <user_> yep
[00:25] <dmcglone> man am I ever tired
[00:26] <gausus> user_: no, how can i do it?
[00:27] <gausus> SR-latch: did you found a solution
[00:27] <gausus> user_: i have ibm x60s and ipw3945 card
[00:27] <kam> user_, http://pastebin.com/m6d9d0f8
[00:27] <user_> gausus: how do you do what?
[00:28] <CrocoJet> where I can find one .iso of kubuntu update (day) ?
[00:28] <dmcglone> I'm out of here guys. I'm tired.
[00:28] <pengo> hi
[00:28] <kam> user_, did you see that oddness
 no, but it seems it must be fixed with gutsy or something
 it happens less frequently
[00:29] <gausus> user_: use the recovery mode to fix it
[00:29] <user_> kam: what dmcglone said.  Also, that is the *longest* xorg.conf i've ever seen!
[00:29] <gausus> SR-latch:  use gutsy and it is a permanent problem for me ?
[00:29] <gausus> s/?/./
[00:29] <kam> user its the log
[00:30] <user_> gausus: when your grub loads on boot, do you not have the option of loading kernel(s), recovery mode, and mem test?
[00:30] <kam> can you just look at the line where it cries about no default mouse?
[00:30] <CrocoJet> why install process of kubuntu (gutsy) make upgrade?
[00:30] <mrdigital> stdin: do u know how to get 720p tv-out using the component out on my video card in kunbuntu?
[00:30] <kam> i added corepointer option to the synaptics, so i am totally at a loss
[00:31] <d347hm4n> !apt-getfix
[00:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-getfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:31] <stdin> mrdigital: no, I've only ever used laptops with intel graphics
[00:31] <user_> kam: i see it, but what problems is it causing you?  Does your touchpad work?
 what do you mean?
[00:31] <stdin> !aptfix | d347hm4n
[00:31] <ubotu> d347hm4n: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:31] <genii> !aptfix
[00:31] <mrdigital> does anyone?
[00:31] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[00:31] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[00:31] <kam> user_, yes but i cant turn of tap drag, which makes the devie too sensitive to use
[00:32] <kam> literally a slight touch = a clik
[00:32] <d347hm4n> i get E: Couldn't find package 22931-nightfall.tar.gz
[00:32] <sourcemaker> Good night boys... I will leave now... bye
[00:32] <gausus> user_: ok, thx
 deathman?
[00:32] <SR-latch> gnite
[00:33] <d347hm4n> i'm sure that is just a .tar.gz d/lded fromm kdeloog.org
[00:33] <d347hm4n> *look
[00:33] <d347hm4n> but why is that troubling apt?
[00:33] <user_> kam: you should be able to anyways... lemme find the proper entries.
[00:34] <gausus> user_: wpa_supplicant run by hand works fine
[00:34] <user_> kam: at the bottom of the first post, there's a bunch of manual entries that work wonders: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351058
[00:35] <user_> gausus: have you run recovery mode?
[00:35] <gausus> user_: not yet
[00:36] <LinuxReign> mrdigital, the email has been sent
[00:37] <user_> gausus: stupid question, but have you manually turned off your wireless and then turned it back on?  Sometimes Knetwork Manager is fickle
[00:38] <LinuxReign> there is NO "stupid" questions
[00:38] <SR-latch> is there a possibility that power saving laptops automatically turn it off?
[00:38] <SR-latch> that was my initial thought on the matter
[00:39] <SR-latch> cause sometimes my wifi card is not recognized from other software like ethereal
[00:39] <fungos_> trying to install kubuntu on my sata drive as master. It stops at booting after installed. the line is: sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[00:39] <fungos_> and doesnt continue anymore
[00:39] <SR-latch> and it lists it like disconnected or something
[00:40] <kam> user_, im trying to do that now.  the problem is the generic mouse driver from the stupid auto'd default mouse is overruling the touchpads settings. the ps2 emulation mode makes the tap option not work
[00:41] <kam> thats why i need to remove its auto creation
[00:41] <mrdigital> LinuxReign: what about tv-out ?
[00:41] <user_> kam: i'm digging around on this one... i haven't seen this before.  Did you upgrade from an older version of kubuntu?
[00:42] <LinuxReign> ok, mrdigital, once u have that installed just open a konsole and type sudo nvidia-settings
[00:42] <LinuxReign> there u should be able to configure the tv-out thingy
[00:42] <treelizard> Hi, what is the correct way of installing skype on an amd64 system?
[00:42] <kam> user_,  nope, ubuntu gutsy iso apt got kubuntu desktop
[00:42] <user_> kam: see if this helps ----> http://www.chromakode.com/blog/2007/09/19/logitech-lx7-in-ubuntu-edgy-ihatekludgers/
[00:43] <LinuxReign> damn, I've lost my amd64 version DVD :(
[00:44] <mrdigital> ok thanks
[00:45] <NickPresta> perhaps I'm blind, but I used to have the kicker-kickoff package with Feisty. I can't find one for Gutsy. I msg'd ubotu but it just leads to a release announcement. Am I missing something?
[00:45] <ardchoille> !info kicker-kickoff
[00:45] <ubotu> Package kicker-kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[00:45] <ardchoille> NickPresta: It may not have been added to the Gutsy repos
[00:45] <NickPresta> i had to install it from getdeb or kde-look.org or something similar last time. My search results aren't helping too much
[00:46] <ardchoille> I don't remember kickoff being in the repos for Feisty either
[00:46] <ardchoille> !search kickoff
[00:46] <ubotu> Found: kickoff
[00:46] <ardchoille> !kickoff
[00:46] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[00:47] <ardchoille> !info kickoff
[00:47] <ubotu> Package kickoff does not exist in gutsy
[00:48] <NickPresta> actually, I think it's in Treviño’s repos
[00:50] <kam> user_, Im gonna restart real quick brb, and thanks for all the help so far jik x doesnt come back
[00:56] <treelizard> alright, here is another question. For some odd reason whenever I use firefox or konquerer's google search tool, it calls google.es. How can make it call google.com? Why is it choosing that anyways?
[00:57] <LinuxReign> treelizard, u have to open Firefox and click on Edit
[00:58] <LinuxReign> go to Preferences
[00:58] <LinuxReign> on the Main tab
[00:59] <LinuxReign> on the Home Page field replace whatever is there with www.google.com
[00:59] <LinuxReign> click on Close and u r done
[00:59] <user_> linuxreign: that will set your homepage to google.com, but how does that reconfigure the built-in searching preferences on the menu bar?
[01:00] <user_> treelizard: please let us know if that works
[01:00] <treelizard> hmm, but I don't want my home page to be google.
[01:00] <LinuxReign> well
[01:01] <treelizard> All I want is when I search in google search bar not to call google.es.
[01:01] <LinuxReign> type whatever u want to be your home page
[01:01] <LinuxReign> ah
[01:01] <user_> treelizard: try this --> in firefox, click on the "G" at the google search.  Then click "manage search engines"
[01:01] <treelizard> ok
[01:02] <user_> treelizard: delete google, and then "restore defaults'
[01:03] <user_> treelizard: see if that gets you back into regular google
[01:04] <treelizard> nope, still uses google.es
[01:04] <user_> treelizard: ok, hang on
[01:04] <treelizard> no problem.
[01:08] <user_> treelizard: firefox - Edit>Preferences>Advanced>Languages ... which language is listed first?
[01:10] <kaizo> hi i'm sort of new to kubuntu and just wondered if anybody could help me out with configuring input methods? I installed skim and anthy
[01:10] <user_> treelizard: also, are you using a proxy, or would there be any reason your ip would be listed as from a spanish country?
[01:12] <treelizard> 3n-us
[01:13] <treelizard> sorry
[01:13] <treelizard> en-us
[01:13] <treelizard> I'm not using any proxys that I know of.
[01:13] <treelizard> I'm living in Canada,
[01:13] <treelizard> and if you check my ip, it seems pretty canadian.
[01:14] <user_> treelizard: this is quite the conundrum :/
[01:14] <BluesKaj> yup, saw that treelizard :) ...welcome to cancksville on kubuntu :)
[01:14] <treelizard> thanks. :)
[01:14] <treelizard> Yeah, this is driving me nuts.
[01:15] <BluesKaj> err canucksville
[01:15] <user_> me too, now
[01:15] <treelizard> I'm having all sorts of crazy problems with kubuntu right now.
[01:15] <user_> treelizard: like what else... maybe i can help you with *something*
[01:15] <treelizard> well, the wireless isn't working.
[01:15] <treelizard> firefox doesn't refresh pages all the time.
[01:16] <joseph> how do i look up my default gateway adress....please dont say ifconfig
[01:16] <treelizard> I don't know how to set up 32 bit programs like skype
[01:16] <treelizard> (the last one is my fault for installing amd64 version.)
[01:16] <joseph> how do i look up my default gateway adress....please dont say ifconfig?
[01:16] <user_> treelizard: i was just going to say that the 64-bit version has a lot more bugs
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Network Settings -> Routes
[01:17] <user_> treelizard: but your wireless should still work... does Knetworkmanager run on startup?
[01:17] <adamonline45> Has anyone used libgtk with kdevelop who can walk me through a very simple 'hello world' app?  I opened a fresh gtk project, and it won't even compile with the base code in it :/
[01:17] <treelizard> I think so.
[01:17] <treelizard> It sets up the wired network up fine.
[01:17] <user_> treelizard: what do you see when you right-click it?  does it see your wireless ssid?
[01:18] <treelizard> It is a new laptop, with Broadcom BCM94311M
[01:18] <treelizard> Oh, I don't even get that far.
[01:19] <user_> treelizard: do you have the Knetworkmanager icon in the kicker panel (task bar)?
[01:19] <treelizard> right, I do.
[01:19] <user_> so right click it.
[01:19] <user_> what does it say?
[01:19] <treelizard> Knetworkmanager
[01:19] <treelizard> followed by stuff about wired connection.
[01:19] <user_> no listing for wireless?
[01:20] <treelizard> nope.
[01:20] <user_> treelizard: i know older versions of kubuntu had trouble with broadcom chips... hang on
[01:20] <treelizard> In the options, there is a comment about disabling wireless.
[01:20] <BluesKaj> treelizard, install ia32-libs
[01:20] <treelizard> I'm using gutsy, for the record.
[01:21] <treelizard> installing
[01:21] <BluesKaj> <---amd 64 gutsy , mostly everything works ok, not using wireless tho
[01:22] <treelizard> BluesKaj: What type of computer do you have?
[01:23] <treelizard> installed
[01:23] <BluesKaj> compaq presario SR 1734X , nothing fancy cpu=venice 3200+
[01:23] <user_> treelizard: if you run " lspci " in terminal, what's the output? (use pastebin)
[01:23] <user_> !pastebin
[01:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:24] <no0tic> hi, is there a way to make konsole recognize urls? it would be useful, since I use irssi
[01:24] <Max-P> Does anyone know how to get the ATI S-Video out working?
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0547 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0548 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0542 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0541 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0543 (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055e (rev a2)
[01:25] <user_> treelizard: please use pastebin (see above)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055f (rev a2)
[01:25] <treelizard> 00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055e (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 055f (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0560 (rev a1)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0561 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0550 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 054c (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
[01:26] <treelizard> 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0531 (rev a2)
[01:27] <user_> LjL: i told him twice...
[01:27] <user_> ljl: he's new
[01:27] <LjL> user_, once he started he can hardly stop
[01:27]  * lavacano201014 ports everything over to the linux box and plays tremulous [/ame]
[01:27] <user_> treelizard: PLEASE use pastebin for posting outputs
[01:27] <treelizard> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46899/
[01:27] <user_> better :)
[01:28] <treelizard> sorry about that flooding.
[01:28] <treelizard> I didn't realize what I was doing until it was too late.
[01:28] <user_> treelizard: well, it's clear that your hardware isn't being recognized... Does anyone have similar hardware and know where to get the proper drivers???
[01:29] <treelizard> I searched for it on ubuntu forum,
[01:29] <treelizard> and there was a howto on making it work.
[01:29] <treelizard> Someone had made a script,
[01:30] <treelizard> and running the script made iwconfig find the eth1,
[01:30] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:30] <treelizard> but that's as far as it went.
[01:30] <adamonline45> Can anyone recommend a good GUI toolkit for KDE?
[01:30] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:30] <user_> treelizard: run "uname -a " in terminal  (output is short) :)
[01:31] <treelizard> Linux katt 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:31] <user_> ok
[01:31] <user_> treelizard: type   sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:32] <treelizard> It is already installed, I believe
[01:32] <user_> treelizard: have you enabled it in Kcontrol?
[01:33] <user_> treelizard: alt+f2 > kcontrol > Sys & Admin > Restricted drivers
[01:33] <treelizard> hmm, it claims that it is in use.
[01:33] <treelizard> Let me try turning it off, and back on again.
[01:33] <user_> treelizard: ok
[01:34] <draik> What would cause Frostwire to not run?
[01:34] <draik> I get the bouncing icon, but then nothing after that.
[01:34] <user_> draik: can u run from terminal?
[01:34] <Max-P> Run it in Konsole
[01:34] <user_> good call, max-p :)
[01:35] <BluesKaj> wrong java client installed, draik
[01:35] <draik> BluesKaj: How do I check which one is installed?
[01:35] <BluesKaj> look in adept
[01:35]  * Max-P sent it after because of his ******* 56k modem
[01:35] <user_> haha :)
[01:36] <user_> draik: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[01:36] <BluesKaj> but I don't know which one it uses
[01:38] <draik> BluesKaj: user_: All of 6 are installed
[01:39] <user_> draik: type " java -version " in terminal
[01:39] <draik> I just did
[01:39] <user_> draik: post output in pastebin
[01:39] <draik> 1.5.2-02
[01:39] <draik> Sorry
[01:39] <draik> Version 1.4.2-02
[01:39] <yeason> does anyone here know where to find info on getting multi-touch screens to work? I can't seem to find any thru google or the forums
[01:40] <user_> draik: np - what's your runtime environment?
[01:40] <draik> Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[01:40] <user_> draik: i think you need 1.5 or higher, iirc
[01:40] <user_> draik: get 1.6
[01:41] <user_> draik: from link above
[01:42] <draik> Which one..... /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java            /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:43] <user_> draik:  type " sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin "
[01:44] <shinkamui> user_: you still around?
[01:44] <user_> yup
[01:44] <shinkamui> Im 99% there, really appreciate the help
[01:44] <shinkamui> the touchpad is recognized, but the eraserpoint isn't
[01:44] <shinkamui> its a dualpoint from alps
[01:44] <user_> wait, what was your other name?
[01:44] <shinkamui> and the irony is that its a umpc so the touchpoint doesn't actually exist
[01:44] <shinkamui> user_ I was KAM
[01:44] <shinkamui> :)
[01:44] <user_> oh, ok
[01:44] <shinkamui> im also Kamui
[01:44] <shinkamui> :-D
[01:45] <treelizard> user_: so I restarted the firmware,
[01:45] <user_> yeah, i'm usually "ignoramus", but konversation for some reason logged me in with this name :/
[01:45] <treelizard> and I don't think my wireless is working.
[01:45] <user_> ok
[01:46] <user_> shinkamui: i don't know much about eraserpoints (i'm a simple person)....
[01:46] <shinkamui> user_: and the retardation of this synaptics driver is that it seems to use auto-dev automatically and it detects my touchpoint, but not the stick,  or it doesn't care about the stick anyway, so I can't explicitly specify the correct event
[01:46] <shinkamui> user_: well, I appreciate your help, its been humongous.  Now that Im on an actual pc with a keyboard, I think I can do better research
[01:46] <shinkamui> user_: just wanted to come back and let you know that you were a huge help and thanks
[01:47] <user_> shinkamui: thanks... i wish i could help more
[01:47] <user_> shinkamui: you can always check the kubuntu forums or #ubuntu
[01:47] <draik> user_: It's already the latest
[01:48] <user_> draik: type " frostwire " in terminal .  Look for any problems
[01:48] <draik> Shouldn't I have picked a different java from the list?
[01:48] <user_> treelizard: still not showing anything under "wireless"/
[01:48] <user_> ?
[01:49] <user_> draik: not necessarily, you can install from terminal
[01:49] <user_> draik: you tried installing version 1.6, and it says you already have it?
[01:49] <draik> user_: I entered the command you provided and it says it's the latest
[01:50] <user_> draik: hmmm... lemme see
[01:50] <user_> draik: did you try starting frostwire from terminal
[01:53] <draik> user_: I got it working. I had to choose a different java "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[01:53] <draik> I chose /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[01:53] <user_> draik: cool... now does frostwire work?
[01:53] <jkl_> 有中文的朋友吗?
[01:54] <stuffcorpse>  有
[01:54] <user_> !en
[01:54] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[01:54] <draik> user_: Yes
[01:54] <jkl_> hi stuffcorpse
[01:54] <stuffcorpse> hi
[01:54] <user_> draik: awesome.  it's good to fix stuff on your own!
[01:55] <draik> user_: I'll let you know when I do that without anyone's help. Thank you user_
[01:55] <user_> draik: np - i've talked to you before (im usually "ignoramus")
[01:55] <draik> user_: Case and point. I've been needing help since day one
[01:56] <jonathan_> help with emerald please
[01:56] <user_> draik: i'm new too (3 months maybe)... i learn by screwing up, and fixing it, or getting help to fix it
[01:56] <jonathan_> i see the themes i click on them but i dunno how to instal them
[01:56] <draik> user_: I've been using Kubuntu since 6/1/06 with the initial release of Dapper Drake
[01:57] <user_> draik: then you've learned... "google is your friend!"
[01:57] <user_> :)
[01:57] <draik> The interesting thing is that I joined at an ironic time (Drake/Draik)
[01:57] <draik> user_: I've learned this much... http://www.tinyurl.com/2c9np
[01:57] <jonathan_> #emerald
[01:57] <Dooood> oops, I forgot to set myself "away".  sorry.
[01:58] <slav3_kitten> so anyone know what would make scons not see my python2.4-dev ?
[01:58] <user_> draik: haha! ain't it the truth?
[01:58] <draik> user_: Yup
[01:58] <slav3_kitten> an why i wouldent have a python-config
[01:58] <draik> Goes to show that I've got that link shortened for a reason :P
[01:58] <user_> draik: yup... it definitely helps.  I like the personal attention you get in IRC, though
[01:59] <user_> draik: like when i couldn't get sound working - because i had it on 'mute' XD
[01:59] <draik> user_: Nothing beats real-time help
[01:59] <draik> user_: I think I remember that
[01:59] <user_> draik: yeah, not that long ago... I've learned a lot since then
[02:00] <user_> draik: like check for the basics first
[02:00] <user_> draik: in my defense, i had kubuntu for like 2 weeks, and was still using my winxp boot most of the time... i didn't know how to do anything
[02:01] <draik> user_: It's rather interesting the way I got involved. I asked around for what Linux distro to use for a beginner and someone mentioned Kubuntu. So here I am
[02:01] <draik> I woke up one morning and decided then and there that I was going to be a Linux user.
[02:02] <draik> I guess I reached the age of reason
[02:02] <user_> draik: that's exactly how i got here... it's actually pretty true.  I happen to be a Windows guru (on 98 and above anyway), but I finally came to a realization
[02:02] <user_> draik: but now i'm like a jehovah's witness with it.  I'm pretty obnoxious.  Especially when my parents call for "tech support"
[02:02] <user_> "Install Linux!"
[02:03] <slav3_kitten> i decided to try debian based system after years of using slackware
[02:03] <user_> viruses? Install linux! Spyware? install linux! dog crapped on the carpet? install linux!
[02:03] <draik> user_: I work as a Technical Support representative
[02:03] <user_> slav3_kitten: slackware is way too complicated!
[02:04] <user_> draik: on Windows systems?
[02:04] <slav3_kitten> i liked slackware alot
[02:04] <slav3_kitten> to be honest thou
[02:04] <draik> user_: Yup. Supporting member's websites
[02:04] <user_> slav3_kitten: people say it hasn't evolved much lately, though...
[02:05] <user_> draik: windows is ok for certain things, but i really like the freedom and customizability of linux
[02:05] <slav3_kitten> user_ it still works flawlessly on my gear like 166mhz CF-25 toughbooks an stuff
[02:05] <draik> user_: EXACTLY! I love this freedom
[02:05] <user_> slav3_kitten: with or without a gui?
[02:05] <slav3_kitten> slackware + fluxbox was my poision
[02:05] <slav3_kitten> figured i'd try kde
[02:06] <slav3_kitten>  an ubuntu
[02:06] <slav3_kitten> once i get over this hell i'm in i'm guna go with xfce
[02:06] <slav3_kitten> kde is kinda fat
[02:06] <draik> Weird.... I can't enter any text into Frostwire
[02:06] <user_> slav3_kitten: then use older xfce - the newest version is not much faster than kde
[02:07] <user_> slav3_kitten: as linux becomes more commercial, it gets more bloat
[02:07] <slav3_kitten> yea i know
[02:07] <slav3_kitten> my hardware dosent get any better
[02:07] <draik> How do I add an app to Katapult?
[02:07] <slav3_kitten> best system i have is 800mhz panasonic CF-28 512megs
[02:08] <slav3_kitten> ram, 30gig hd
[02:08] <user_> draik: with your frostwire problem, trying typing in Chat, and then anywhere else
[02:09] <draik> It can't
[02:09] <user_> slav3_kitten: you'd be totall crippled on windows
[02:09] <user_> draik: hmmm
[02:09] <draik> user_: I closed it and opened it again
[02:09] <draik> It's all good
[02:09] <slav3_kitten> acutally no, that box still runs win2k well an all my development software on it
[02:11] <user_> draik: good stuff
[02:11] <user_> slav3_kitten: do you purposely use ancient hardware?
[02:12] <user_> (just curious)
[02:12] <draik> user_: Oh yeah! :)
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> i use what i can afford and lasts
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> i cant afford a new fully rugged laptop
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> so i use an old on
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> e
[02:12] <user_> slav3_kitten: yeah, i have 3 computers, but they're all older and i only bought one brand new
[02:12] <slav3_kitten> and ancient would be my first computer which was 16mhz
[02:13] <user_> 16mhz!
[02:13] <shinkamui> anyone know much about the synaptics driver?
[02:13] <shinkamui> xorg always seems to use auto-dev to set my synaptics device instead of what I set manually in xorg.conf
[02:13] <slav3_kitten> i have never bought a brand new laptop
[02:13] <fuzzy> new laptop smell is the bestest
[02:13] <slav3_kitten> and never a preassembled system
[02:13] <shinkamui> so I set "device" "/dev/input/event2" and Xorg.0.log shows that that same device was configured with auto-dev to /dev/input/event3
[02:13] <shinkamui> which is the wrong event
[02:14] <slav3_kitten> oh shit i'm guna vomit more blood, tea, and ice cream
[02:14] <user_> slav3_kitten: me neither. i bought a 'new' (refurb) desktop from Tigerdirect years ago ($280).  It's still truckin! I dual boot on that one
[02:14] <slav3_kitten> bbiab
[02:16] <user_> shinkamui: do you have the latest version of xorg?
[02:16] <shinkamui> user_ pretty sure, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <user_> shinkamui: i still don't understand why xorg inserts hardware settings where none exist... mine didn't do that
[02:17] <shinkamui> they do exist
[02:17] <shinkamui> let me pastebin, this will be much smaller :)
[02:17] <shinkamui> oh crap, I can't
[02:17] <shinkamui> can't use the mouse
[02:17] <user_> shinkamui: or touchpad?
[02:17] <shinkamui> user_ there isnt'a  touchpad, only an eraserpoint
[02:17] <user_> shinkamui: oic
[02:18] <shinkamui> but the synaptics driver auto detects the touchpad device and wont detect the eraserpoint
[02:18] <shinkamui> odd as hell since there is no damn touchpad
[02:18] <user_> shinkamui: have you tried reconfiguring xorg?  i mean, if your settings are already borked....
[02:18] <shinkamui> as in an autoconfigure?
[02:18] <shinkamui> xorg -configure
[02:18] <shinkamui> ?
[02:19] <user_> as in sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:19] <user_> if nothing else is working, it's worth a shot....
[02:25] <Dooood> hi all.  Is there a freeware or open-source linux equivalent to "Logmein" that will allow me to control a winXP machine from kubuntu, and also allow me to be able to control the kubuntu machine  from the winXP machine, especially when I'm away from home (over the internet)?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> !remote_desktop
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote_desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <BluesKaj> !remote
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <ubuntu__> howdo I mount my floppy drive?
[02:27] <Dooood> not looking good, huh?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Dooood, anyway try looking around for remote desktop
[02:27] <BluesKaj> it exists
[02:27] <Dooood> is that open source?  I'll look around
[02:28] <user_> shinkamui: u still there?
[02:28] <shinkamui> yea
[02:28] <shinkamui> still didnt' work user
[02:28] <shinkamui> it detected the touchpad, not the eraserpoint
[02:28] <user_> shinkamui: you completely reconfigured?
[02:28] <BluesKaj> !krds
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <shinkamui> alps dualpoint sucks
[02:28] <BluesKaj> krcd
[02:29] <BluesKaj> !krdc
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <user_> shinkamui: stupid question, but did you install the touchpad program from Add/Remove programs?
[02:29] <BluesKaj> !info krdc
[02:29] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 505 kB, installed size 976 kB
[02:30] <BluesKaj> Dooood, see the above!
[02:30] <Dooood> hm?
[02:30] <Dooood> ah
[02:30] <Dooood> thx
[02:30] <user_> blueskaj: you knew it was in there somewhere, huh? :)
[02:30] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:30] <shinkamui> user: doesn't work, I tried gsynaptics
[02:31] <shinkamui> user_: It doesn't effect the eraserpoint at all
[02:31] <user_> shinkamui: dammit.... sorry bro.  I hope someone with more knowledge on the subject can help you
[02:31] <shinkamui> user_: in fact, at this point if I could just get the stupid synaptics driver to using auto-dev, I'd probably be in good shape, but Im starting to think its built into the driver
[02:31] <BluesKaj> uhhm  Dooood , there's anotherone called tsclient , it's gnome app but it should run on kde too
[02:31] <user_> i, on the other hand, am going to grab a few cold ones :)
[02:31] <BluesKaj> !tsclient
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tsclient - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <user_> see you guys later
[02:32] <BluesKaj> !info tsclient
[02:32] <ubotu> tsclient: front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 294 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[02:32] <Dooood> kool, and is that bidirectional control, BluesKaj?
[02:34] <Frederick> folks I was unable to set up my geforce 8800 with ubuntu can anyone help me?
[02:34] <morphine> hey folks, I'm looking at this page
[02:34] <morphine> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
[02:34] <morphine> Wondering why the only architectures available are i386 and amd64
[02:34] <morphine> If I'm running a generic kernel which one do I need?
[02:35] <fuzzy> kubuntu is the best thing everr
[02:36] <Frederick> fuzzy: you are a joker
[02:36] <fuzzy> am i now
[02:38] <ubuntu__> how do I use my floppy drive from the live cd if /dev/fd0 isn't in fstab?
[02:40] <BluesKaj> Dooood, sorry was called away , not sure .
[02:41] <Dooood> ok.  I started looking to install krdc, and it appears t already be installed!
[02:41] <oobe> mkdir /mnt/flop && mount -fs  ? /dev/fd0 /mnt/flop
[02:41] <oobe> replace ? with filesystem
[02:42] <Dooood> it says it supports vnc and rdp servers, so I guess I need to install vnc on my laptop....
[02:43] <Dooood> vnc
[02:43] <BluesKaj> windows isn't friendly to linux on my network , altho i can read and write to the windows pc from my linux box with no probs. I've never tried a true remote desktop connection over the internet
[02:43] <Dooood> oops
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> Krdc is only a client
[02:43] <Dooood> I keep typing on the wrong keyboard....
[02:44] <BluesKaj> !vnc
[02:44] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> I use x11vnc as a VNC server. It's not all that easy to set up, but I couldn't see any others that handled display:0
[02:44] <Dooood> Dragnslcr: meaning I can only control the kubuntu machine with the windows machine?
[02:44] <Dragnslcr> Other way
[02:44] <Dooood> ah
[02:44] <Dooood> hm
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> If you want to remotely control a Kubuntu system, you need to install a VNC server
[02:45] <oobe> or use ssh
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> Then you can use any VNC client you want on a Windows system
[02:45] <Dooood> ok.  I guess I'll put that project off for now.  I need baby steps at first.....
[02:46] <Dooood> ....tiny, tiny, tiny baby steps.....
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yeah Dragnslcr, Dooood , i've never had much luck controlling my linux pc from the wife's windows pc , even over our little lan.
[02:46] <Dooood> ok, thx
[02:47] <ubuntu__> how do I mount my hard drive from the live cd?
[02:48] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu__: I would think it should do it automatically, try looking in /media
[02:49] <Dooood> oddly, I tried opening the laptop with a browser on the kubuntu box (since the lappy already has logmein installed) but couldn't connect.  It claims to work in any browser, bbut I guess it means any *windows* browser.....
[02:49] <ubuntu__> it doesn't, it's not there
[02:50] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu__: you can do "sudo fdisk -l" to see what partitions are on the disk
[02:51] <ilikepie> That's a -l, not a -i
[02:52] <Frederick> oki somehow x booted
[02:52] <ilikepie> Frederick: Control + Alt + F1
[02:53] <ilikepie> should drop to a shell
[02:53] <ilikepie> Hello!
[02:54] <Frederick> im on x still not sure I will be able to come back to x
[02:54] <Frederick> how do I check if nvidia driver is running?
[02:54] <ilikepie> Frederick: to come back to X: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[02:55] <ilikepie> As for nvidia,
[02:55] <Frederick> the driver is loaded acording to lsmod
[02:55] <ilikepie> ok.
[02:56] <ilikepie> Can i get a ps -e in a pastebin?
[02:56] <ilikepie> please?
[02:56] <Frederick> from me?
[02:56] <ilikepie> yes
[02:56] <Frederick> sure
[02:56] <ilikepie> ok
[02:57] <ilikepie> [
[02:57] <ilikepie> oops!
[02:59] <Frederick> http://rafb.net/p/4U9RlL63.html
[02:59] <ilikepie> ok
[02:59] <adamonline45> How do I make just a plain empty project in kdevelop?
[03:00] <ilikepie> Frederick, you will be able to come back to X.
[03:01] <Frederick> oki man but I think nvidia is not running
[03:02] <ilikepie> well, my nvidia has never been running.
[03:02] <ilikepie> NVIDIA graphics card, though,
[03:02] <ilikepie> works fine
[03:02] <Frederick> hm
[03:03] <ilikepie> Standards.
[03:03] <Frederick> what doyou mean?
[03:04] <ilikepie> There are standard drivers that work across all video cards.
[03:04] <shinkamui> god damn
[03:04] <ilikepie> They may not use special features,
[03:04] <shinkamui> I don't think the alps dualpoint stick works in linux at all
[03:04] <ilikepie> but they work moderately well.
[03:05] <skyfalcon866> !qt
[03:05] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[03:08] <ilikepie> Frederick: Did it work?
[03:08] <ilikepie> :-?
[03:09] <Frederick> ilikepie: im on x dunno how
[03:09] <skyfalcon866> !gtk
[03:09] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:09] <ilikepie> What happened?
[03:09] <skyfalcon866> !botabuse
[03:09] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[03:10] <ilikepie> !operating systems.
[03:10] <ilikepie> Frederick: What happened
[03:10] <ilikepie> ?
[03:12] <adamonline45> Does compiz-fusion come pre-installed with gutsy gibbon 7.10?
[03:12] <ilikepie> !the world
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the world - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <ilikepie> ha.
[03:12] <bonbonthejon> adamonline45: in Ubuntu
[03:13] <adamonline45> bonbonthejon: Alright, thanks 8)
[03:13] <Frederick> kubunru keeps asking for the cd to update packages :/
[03:14] <skyfalcon866> !strigi
[03:14] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[03:14] <skyfalcon866> !kde4
[03:14] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. RC 1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[03:15] <bonbonthejon> Frederick: open adept and change the repositories to ignore the CD
[03:15] <adamonline45> !compiz-fusion
[03:15] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:16] <skyfalcon866> !tell skyfalcon866 about botabuse
[03:17] <al-_-Gir> ubuntu have this wizard to enable fusion , also kubuntu hae it ?
[03:17] <al-_-Gir> or i need to install it from adapt ?
[03:17] <bonbonthejon> al-_-Gir: no wizard, you need to install it in adept
[03:18] <al-_-Gir> :( its pity that ubuntu deafult desktop is gnome and not kde
[03:19] <tarin> im not sure if any of you guys have talked to me before but if you have i am back again with the same problem
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> That's all Kubuntu is
[03:19] <BluesKaj> al-_-Gir, kubuntu desktop default is kde , ubuntu desktop default is gnome
[03:20] <tarin> i installed kubuntu a little less than a month ago
[03:20] <al-_-Gir> Dragnslcr , but ubuntu is alot more developed ... alot more resources goto ubuntu and less to kubuntu
[03:20] <tarin> internet worked fine when it was feisty
[03:20] <skyfalcon866> !jdong
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[03:20] <BluesKaj> al-_-Gir, wrong !
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- not really
[03:20] <tarin> i upgraded to gutsy and now every time i restart my machine the internet no longer works
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> It's the same repositories
[03:20] <al-_-Gir> why not , its is so hard to put one wizard also to kubuntu ...
[03:21] <al-_-Gir> i dont understand them
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- are you only talking about Compiz?
[03:21] <al-_-Gir> generally
[03:21] <skyfalcon866> #ubuntu
[03:21] <tarin> this is a custom built machine with a realtek on board ethernet card
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Compiz doesn't get along with KDE as well as it does with Gnome
[03:21] <tarin> dual bootiing with xp
[03:21] <tarin> can anyone help me stop the madness?
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> And KDE4 will have many of the same compositing effects as Compiz
[03:22] <al-_-Gir> Dragnslcr , what ? :\ it will have his own new compiz ?
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> Having said that, I've used Compiz with KDE and it works quite well
[03:22] <tarin> after about 3 hours of messing with stuff i can get it to work but the next time i reboot its gone again and its never the same fix 2x
[03:22] <al-_-Gir> yes im also
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: but you haven't use compiz with kde4... *shudders*
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> All you need to do is install the compiz packages
[03:23] <al-_-Gir> but its little bit difficult to install it
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, I only used KDE4 for about 10 minutes
[03:23] <al-_-Gir> ALSO driver for nvidia , to restart kdm , X
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- not really, just install the packages through Adept
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: i'm doing it full time. my kde3+compiz set up crashed beyond quick repair.
[03:23] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: no more difficult than ubuntu
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- ouch
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: yeah.. wasn't fun.
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- KDE4 was a bit too buggy for me. Stuff like the systray being in the middle of the screen
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> but kde4 is rock stable,plasma has crashed beyond replair once.
[03:24] <al-_-Gir> bazhang_ , ofcoure that yes , ubuntu have wizard that you only click on "full effects" and it install and do all you need
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> With no apparent way to move it
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: thats all fixed now.
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> Nice
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> I figured it wouldn't take long
[03:24] <al-_-Gir> when kde 4 will be released ?
[03:24] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: that's hype--kubuntu is much easier :}
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> I may try RC2 when it hits the repositories
[03:25] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: jan 11 2008
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- I think the plan is for mid-January
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule#Upcoming_milestones
[03:25] <al-_-Gir> kubuntu 8 will have default kde4 desktop right ?
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 will not
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> al-_-Gir: 8.10 probably will
[03:25] <al-_-Gir> why ?
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 is an LTS version, so they're sticking with KDE3
[03:26] <al-_-Gir> aa aunderstand
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> KDE4 will most likely be available in the standard repositories though
[03:26] <al-_-Gir> LTS is for 3 years right ?
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Probably take 5 minutes to install it
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> I think so
[03:26] <bazhang_> yup
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> yeah... and there is going to be a kde4 cd as well
[03:26] <bazhang_> 3 years desktop 5 years server
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that
[03:27] <al-_-Gir> server is only ubuntu  : \
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> 8.04 will have two versions, one with KDE3 and one with KDE4 as the default
[03:27] <bazhang_> sweet
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Server doesn't really matter, since most people wouldn't have Gnome or KDE on a server
[03:27] <bonbonthejon> al-_-Gir: ubuntu server doesn't have a GUI
[03:27] <bazhang_> I'm running hardy now and its nice
[03:28] <al-_-Gir> bazhang_ , new feutres ?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> al-_-Gir- remember that Ubuntu and Kubuntu are only different in one package
[03:28] <bazhang_> al-_-Gir: not this early
[03:28] <al-_-Gir> 1 package do all the different ...
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> Ubuntu has ubuntu-desktop installed by default, while Kubuntu has kubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <al-_-Gir> but im kde user ...
[03:28] <tarin> bazhang:remember me?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> You can install both desktop packages on the same computer
[03:29] <bazhang_> tarin: how could I not? :}
[03:29] <tarin> lol
[03:29] <tarin> well it has done it again no internet
[03:29] <tarin> and it hasnt been booted into xp at all today
[03:29] <bazhang_> tarin: describe it with more info and then well see if if can be helped
[03:30] <bazhang_> tarin: I remember, but others may not
[03:30] <tarin> well when i got off the pc last night you guys helped me get my internet working
[03:30] <tarin> i had initially installed feisty and everything worked great
[03:30] <tarin> i then upgraded to gutsy via adept
[03:31] <tarin> since then internet has been hit or mis
[03:31] <tarin> i am dual booting with xp on a home built pc with onboard realtek ethernet
[03:31] <tarin> wake on lan has been disabled via bios
[03:32] <tarin> everytime i bring up knetwork manager it says no active devices
[03:32] <bazhang_> tarin: that should be disabled inside of windows as well
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> tarin: kill knetworkmanager, you have a wired connection, so you don't need it.
[03:33] <tarin> yeah its always been disbled in windows i have no use for wake on lan
[03:33] <tarin> how do i kill it
[03:33] <tarin> this is also with a router hading out dhcp if that helps
[03:34] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, i have a wired connection and I had to reconfigure the knetwork manager after upgrading to gutsy
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> tarin: right click on it, say close,and when it asks you if you want to start on login. say no.
[03:35] <tarin> ok should i restart now?
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> tarin: and configure your wired interface from within system settings->network
[03:36] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, i have a wired connection and I had to reconfigure the knetwork manager after upgrading to gutsy
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: how'd you do that?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> with the realtek like tarin has
[03:37] <tarin> should i mark the box activate when computer starts or leave it empty?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> tarin: yeah, actuvate when the computer starts
[03:38] <tarin> ok so do i need to  restart the whole machine or can i log out and log back in?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> it was inactive so i ran the knetwork manager and it opens network settings
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> tarin: i'd do a restart to be safe.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: which is what I just told him to do. :D
[03:41] <tarin> ok restarting
[03:41] <BluesKaj> yeah, but why did you tell him to turn off knetwork manager ?
[03:42] <tarin> the thing that kills me is that it has been a different fix every night for a week lol
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: cause its uneccasary and causes problems
[03:42] <smooker> how do i completely disable the screen server and black screen turning on after time ?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> smooker: system settings-> power management I believe
[03:44] <smooker> dont see any power management
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> then its in monitor and display
[03:45] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, well my wired network manager is not going to be turned off, cuz it works. All he ahas to do is right click on it and choose 'wired network' and that 'll activate his connection
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: but he said it said it told him "no available devices"
[03:46] <BluesKaj> bummer , he needs to do a manual config then
[03:46] <tarin> doesnt give me that option....if i single left click on it it tells me no active devices then when i right click the only thing i can do is manual config
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> tarin: but does internet work?
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> (i'm assuming you've rebooted)
[03:47] <tarin> nope no internet
[03:48] <BluesKaj> do the manual config : IP is prolly some thing like 192.168.2.10 and the subnet mask is : 255.255.255.0,broadcast is :192.168.2.255
[03:48] <tarin> and no knetman icon either
[03:48] <BluesKaj> damn , no red X ?
[03:48] <tarin> nope
[03:48] <tarin> no icon at all
[03:48] <BluesKaj> wow
[03:49] <tarin> we set it not to run a startup
[03:49] <tarin> about 33 lines up
[03:49] <BluesKaj> yeah, but i still don't understand why ?
[03:50] <tarin> also the networking service doesnt start
[03:51] <tarin> just looked at that now
[03:51] <BluesKaj> ok, i'll stay out of this
[03:51] <tarin> and i just tried to restart it and it wont do it
[03:52] <tarin> can anyone tell me what me /etc/network/interfaces file should look like?
[03:52] <tarin> BRB
[03:52] <flaccid> tarin: that would depend on your network configuration
[03:53] <flaccid> see man interfaces
[03:54] <BluesKaj> tarin, pm , i'll show you the file
[03:59] <tarin> ok i have that
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> hey.... tarin sorry, my mom wanted me for something
[04:02] <tarin> np
[04:02] <tarin> i had to go outside to smoke a cig anyway
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> tarin: ummm you could try just running "sudo dhclient eth0" from the commmand line
[04:03] <tarin> ok one sec
[04:04] <tarin> dhcpdiscover not finding any offers
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> wow... thats weird. you sure the network cable is plugged in tightly at either side?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> tarin, behind a router or modem ?
[04:05] <tarin> router
[04:05] <tarin> set to send dhcp
[04:06] <tarin> and i have tried unplugging and plugging back in already
[04:06] <tarin> this is kind of embarassing since i did tech support for an ISP for 1.5 yrs
[04:07] <tarin> and now i install entire networks
[04:07] <tarin> too bad its all windows
[04:07] <tarin> lol
[04:07] <tarin> not enuff ppl use linux ya know
[04:08] <BluesKaj> realtek RTL-8139 ethernet card here , is that familiar ?
[04:09] <tarin> thats exactly what i have
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> I have the same chip too..
[04:09] <tarin> rev 10
[04:09] <BluesKaj> which router
[04:09] <tarin> buffalo
[04:09] <nosrednaekim> tarin: what does "lsmod | grep 8139" give you?
[04:10] <tarin> not many ppl know them but they are great routers
[04:10] <tarin> 3 files
[04:10] <BluesKaj> yeah, mines abit diff too, seimens speedstream 6300
[04:11] <tarin> 8139too, 8139cp, and mii
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> kernel modules.... 8139too, 8139cpand mii, right?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> and ifconfig lists it as eth0?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> for instance... is there an eth1 or eth2?
[04:12] <tarin> nope just eth0
[04:13] <tarin> but i have eth1 and eth2 listed in my interfaces but they are commented out
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> hrm.... try a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart" for the heck of it.
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> and then another "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:15] <tarin> still no offers
[04:15] <tarin> should it be looking at 255.255.255.255?
[04:15] <tarin> port 67?
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> yeah....
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> I think so
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> yes, thats what mine does
[04:17] <tarin> ok
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> your router ok?
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> do you hae windows on this same computer?
[04:18] <tarin> yup i am wireless on my laptop
[04:18] <tarin> yeah its dual boot
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> does windows connect fine?
[04:18] <tarin> if i boot to windows no issues
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> >_>
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> well, unfortunately,I have to go..... I have no clue what the problem could be.... actually, try a "sudo lshw" and look for the network interface
[04:19] <tarin> if i didnt have so many things i need on the windows i would nuke it
[04:19] <tarin> ok
[04:19] <tarin> thanks for the help
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> tarin: its useful for times like this
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> try the sudo lshw real fast.
[04:21] <tarin> shows eth0 as the realtek
[04:21] <snarkster> good evening. Is libdvdcss in the repos?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> tarin: and the associated driver is 8139too?
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[04:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:22] <tarin> yup
[04:22] <tarin> 0.9.28
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> tarin: ok, then I haven't got a clue... sorry, and good luck :D
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> bye
[04:22] <tarin> thanks
[04:22] <tarin> cya
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> well, hopefully you'll fix it and you won't have to ;)
[04:24]  * sea4ever is gone.
[04:24] <tarin> anyone else have any experience  getting internet to work on gutsy?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> tarin, nosrednaekim is quite knowledgeable , but i would retry knetwork manager in /usr/share/autostart. Maybe a manual configuration will work ...it's a thought
[04:28] <tarin> yeah i will give it a try
[04:30] <bazhang> what's the replacement for dhclient?
[04:31] <flaccid> why do you need to replace it
[04:32] <bazhang> dont need to, just wanted to know the name dhcpcd or something like that
[04:32] <BluesKaj> well, sacktime for me ...nite all
[04:34] <flaccid> well dhcpd is the server and dhclient is the client
[04:35] <bazhang> cheers--can't remember who told me a couple of days ago that one could also use this alternate command to connect
[04:37] <kate__> so what does this thing do?
[04:39] <Frederick> folks where do I place the command so kubuntu runs dhclient on boot?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[05:01] <mrdigital> all the mirrors to download 7.10 are down
[05:01] <mrdigital> invaild HTTP Header
[05:01] <bazhang> get a torrent then
[05:02] <mrdigital> my isp limits torrent downloads
[05:02] <mrdigital> even the .torrent files wont download
[05:04] <bazhang> mrdigital: all the mirrors? worldwide? hard to fathom
[05:05] <mrdigital> yepppp
[05:05] <mrdigital> try them
[05:07] <bazhang> http://mirror.nttu.edu.tw/ubuntu-releases/gutsy/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:08] <bazhang> no problem there
[05:08] <bazhang> for kubuntu just substitute kubuntu in the appropriate places
[05:10] <bazhang> http://ftp.twaren.net/Linux/Ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:10] <bazhang> mrdigital: that one works for kubuntu
[05:10] <kubuntu7> up
[05:11] <mrdigital> that the DVD?
[05:12] <bazhang> haha
[05:12] <mrdigital> supplied http header is invaild
[05:12] <mrdigital> the CD isos work
[05:12] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:13] <bazhang> worldwide mirrors not down then heh
[05:15] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:18] <jalbert> hello all
[05:18] <jalbert> I have a question about storage devices
[05:19] <jalbert> I am not able to open CD or DVD media
[05:19] <jalbert> is there something special that needs to be done/
[05:19] <jalbert> ?
[05:28] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:29] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde)
[05:29] <bazhang> lucian: have you checked ubuntuforums?
[05:30] <lucian> i checked kubuntuforums.com
[05:30] <lucian> and im trying to ask in #kde and google. ..  nothing tho
[05:30] <lucian> :(
[05:30] <bazhang> best to check ubuntuforums absolute beginner talk search for add menu item
[05:31] <jalbert> I have a CD that was burned using Windows. It has an .avi file on there but for some reason Linux won't see it.
[05:31] <jalbert> when I try o mount it, it comes up blank. No files, no folders
[05:31] <bazhang> jalbert: problem with the burn or the media most likely
[05:32] <jalbert> well I'm unable to mount any external hard drives or USB devices also
[05:33] <bazhang> jalbert: hot plugging them? or in at start up
[05:33] <jalbert> in at start-up
[05:34] <bazhang> what file system on the hd drives?
[05:34] <jalbert> my USB key works, but external USB HDD won't
[05:34] <jalbert> NTFS I believe
[05:34] <bazhang> do you have ntfs-g installed?
[05:35] <jalbert> I think so... one sec
[05:35] <lizili> hi ,i have a problem when use kaffeine to play movies in kubuntu6.06,it says "xine: xine can't find input plugin for MRL [smb://xxxxx/xxx.rmvb]
[05:37] <jalbert> the NTFS-Gnome virtual filesystem module?
[05:38] <bazhang> jalbert have you read the !ntfs link?
[05:38] <jalbert> I opened Adept Package Manager and filtered for "ntfs" and there's a list of 9 packages
[05:38] <jalbert> !ntfs
[05:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[05:39] <jalbert> ok thanks I'll read this
[05:39] <bazhang> no worries :}
[05:40] <lucian> arg
[05:40] <lucian> !kmenu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <lucian> !kdemenu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdemenu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <lucian> !kde-menu
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-menu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <lizili> help !! when i choose films those stored in my friend computer through samba to play in kaffeine it says "you can only select local files",what should i do please?
[05:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=631818 lucian
[05:42] <lucian> lizili: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:43] <lucian> i know how to add an item to kde
[05:43] <lucian> but i installed kde games which is like 25 items
[05:43] <lucian> and it didnt add it to the menu
[05:43] <lucian> no games menu or anything
[05:44] <bazhang> kmenu editor should take care of that as well iirc
[05:44] <lucian> and sorting through /usr/share/applications/kde for the games among 200+ icons will be
[05:44] <lucian> annoying
[05:45] <lucian> blah. im just going to boot to the cli and remove and re-install kde
[05:54] <lizili> i can find samba files through:file>open file ....where is the samba ?
[06:01] <sharif> Hello
[06:01] <sharif> AnyBody there ??
[06:03] <emilsedgh> yes
[06:03] <emilsedgh> sharif: as you could see there are many people here :)
[06:04] <sharif> But nobody still alive :P
[06:05] <sharif> I need help  for Kubuntu .... anyone there for help me ?
[06:05] <ardchoille> !ask | sharif
[06:05] <ubotu> sharif: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:05] <emilsedgh> sharif: if you have a question, just ask.go on...
[06:06] <sharif> how    can i change my Screen resulation on   Kubuntu?
[06:06] <sharif> I tried but no change :(
[06:06]  * hydrogen wonders about the topic
[06:06] <hydrogen> wtf is a Tutorials Day Week?
[06:07] <ardchoille> sharif: ctrl+alt+<minus|plus>button ?
[06:07] <sharif> Before  2days ago .. i  just got Kubuntu 7.10   :P  and yesterday i installed
[06:07] <bazhang> sharif: did you check apply?
[06:07] <sharif> Yeah bazhang . i checked
[06:07] <Canthares> you change you screen resolution through system settings
[06:07] <Canthares> monitor and display
[06:07] <sharif> ardchoille:  ... doesnt working :(
[06:08] <ardchoille> sharif: Do you need to add new resolutions to xorg.conf?
[06:08] <sharif> yes .. Canthares .. i tried but when i applied  there is  no change in my Screen
[06:08] <Canthares> what is it set at now?
[06:08] <sharif> i want to make 1024x768
[06:08] <sharif> 800x600 :(
[06:09] <ardchoille> sharif: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:09] <sharif> ok doning
[06:09] <sharif> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:09] <sharif>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071205120946
[06:10] <sharif> what i do   now :>
[06:10] <flaccid> logout, restart x
[06:10] <sharif> after a long time tring :> i have   connected with my GPRS :> via  WVDAIL :P
[06:10] <flaccid> or do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:10] <ardchoille> sharif: now you restart xorg, save any work and do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:10] <flaccid> soz ardchoille
[06:11]  * flaccid goes back to work
[06:11] <sharif> ok brb .... rstarting :D
[06:25] <lizili> hello,everybody !I have installed linux-686 in kubuntu6.06 , should i remove linux-386 to keep off confilct ?
[06:28] <bazhang> lizili: what hardware?
[06:30] <lizili> dell latitude csx
[06:31] <sharif> Hello I am  Back
[06:31] <bazhang> lizili: no need to remove
[06:31] <sharif> thanks buddy for help me :D
[06:32] <sharif> another problem :>  in   Kopete
[06:32] <bazhang> sharif: all your resolution problems gone?
[06:32] <sharif> yeah ... problem solved :>
[06:33] <bazhang> sweet
[06:33] <sharif> now another problem :> bazhang
[06:33] <sharif> bazhang: Another problem :D
[06:33] <sharif> in Kopete :> ...      all time      it was  crashed  :(
[06:34] <bazhang> sharif: could you provide more info? try running it from the konsole
[06:34] <sharif> i am new user  of Kubuntu .. so i dont know all about Kubuntu
[06:35] <sharif> When i  start  Kopete,  it  run for  5mins ... after 5mins   it shows  a mmessege that Kopete is      Crashed
[06:35] <bazhang> sharif: if you run it from the konsole, it will give more info as to why it crashed--did only the app crash, or your whole system
[06:36] <sharif> only  App crash
[06:36] <sharif> system in      ok
[06:36] <bazhang> sharif: open konsole and type in kopete
[06:37] <sharif> ok
[06:37] <sharif> done
[06:38] <bazhang> wait until it crashes, then try to remember the error message or jot it down, then report it here
[06:38] <bazhang> one of the ops in this channel is a kopete/kde developer, and can likely help
[06:38] <sharif> GOt   hugee   report for    Crash :(
[06:39] <sharif> Where   he is ?
[06:39] <bazhang> sharif: pastebin it; link can be found at !paste
[06:39] <sharif> #38 0xb6860699 in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
[06:39] <sharif> this is last line
[06:39] <bazhang> !paste | sharif
[06:39] <ubotu> sharif: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <hydrogen> sharif: thats not going to be a helpful backtrace
[06:40] <sharif> i didnt understand what i  paste ?
[06:40] <bazhang> sharif: the complete error message
[06:40] <sharif> ok
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <sharif> (no debugging symbols found)
[06:41] <bazhang> ugh
[06:41] <bazhang> sharif: not in the channel but to that link
[06:41] <sharif> kicked  me  :P for   flooding :D
[06:42] <sharif> ohh ok :>
[06:44] <sharif> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46920/
[06:44] <sharif> bazhang: go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46920/
[06:45] <bazhang> sharif: best to remember that link and post it a bit later--when the kopete dev is around :} me = clueless
[06:45] <sharif> :(
[06:45] <sharif> i have to go now :( time     for Shower :(
[06:46] <sharif> Bye now .. i will come at  night   in Bangladesh  time
[06:46] <ninjagambit> ok i was runing windows and fedora8 but i was preparing for a swap from fedora to kubuntu so i deleted all my partitions that were made during the fedora install
[06:46] <sharif> Bye all     and bazhang
[06:46] <bazhang> bye
[06:46] <ninjagambit> but it never said free space
[06:47] <ninjagambit> just said un allocated
[06:47] <bazhang> ninjagambit: using gparted or cfdisk or other
[06:47] <ninjagambit> gparted
[06:47] <hydrogen> bazhang: that backtrace won't be helpful anyways
[06:48] <bazhang> hydrogen: but a certain kopete dev will likely help :} cheers
[06:48] <hydrogen> all it shows is that there was a crash somewhere after logging in with ssl
[06:48] <hydrogen> or failing to log in with ssl
[06:48] <hydrogen> to msn
[06:48] <bazhang> ninjagambit: have you run the kubuntu installer
[06:48] <ninjagambit> not yet
[06:48] <ninjagambit> im downloading it now
[06:48] <bazhang> ninjagambit: and xp is already installed right?
[06:49] <ninjagambit> yeah im on it now
[06:49] <ninjagambit> i had a little trouble booting back in
[06:49] <ninjagambit> after that but i think i have that fixed
[06:49] <ninjagambit> going to try in a sec
[06:49] <bazhang> ninjagambit: the kubuntu installer should sort that out
[06:49] <bazhang> ninjagambit: though would be a good idea to back up :}
[06:50] <ninjagambit> all i realy have on here i cant replace is pictures
[06:50] <ninjagambit> of my family
[06:50] <ninjagambit> i backed those up this morning
[06:50] <ninjagambit> everything else i can download or i have disk
[06:50] <ninjagambit> alot of downloading though
[06:52] <ninjagambit> im probably going to do a clean slate install of windows xp once i get kubuntu runing
[06:53] <hydrogen> install windows first
[06:53] <hydrogen> its a lot easier
[06:53] <ninjagambit> i have it
[06:53] <ninjagambit> already
[06:53] <hydrogen> but you said you were going to reinstall it?
[06:53] <ninjagambit> yeah
[06:53] <hydrogen> windows likes to mess with the mbr when it installs
[06:53] <ninjagambit> oh
[06:53] <hydrogen> and it overwrites the linux bootloader
[06:53] <ninjagambit> ok
[06:53] <bazhang> ninjagambit: if you are going to reinstall xp anyway, then best do it first--less troublesome that way
[06:54] <ninjagambit> ok thanks for the advice
[06:54] <ninjagambit> didnt know it move outside the partition
[06:55] <_dac_> sportchick, where you from ?
[06:56] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu ninjagambit
[06:57] <ninjagambit> fedora install was easy
[06:57] <ninjagambit> i hope this one goes the same way
[06:57] <bazhang> kubuntu is as well
[07:01] <gastu> hi
[07:01] <gastu> i have configured the dualscreen on my kubuntu 1 monitor 1 tv everything seems to be fine excpet that videos played on the tv even in fullscreen are using the half of the tv the rest is black
[07:03] <Dragonath> I think the solution to this would be running 2 x servers, but I don't know much about setting up such a thing
[07:07] <ninjagambit> ok so my unallocated portion is now free space
[07:07] <ninjagambit> ?
[07:08] <chx> how can i update the window title of a Konsole session? after ssh to a remote server and logging out it still says the name of said ssh session which is not what I want
[07:09] <ninjagambit> will gparted delete all content in the partitions when the partitions are deleted
[07:10] <ninjagambit> i even made the unallocated space a partition and formated it as linux swap then deleted it again
[07:10] <chx> echo -ne "\033]0;Shell\007" -- thanks.
[07:10] <ninjagambit> to see if it changed to freespace
[07:12] <enrique> hola
[07:12] <enrique> soy nuevo en ubunto
[07:12] <enrique> una pregunta para todos
[07:12] <enrique> puedo instalar firefox ?
[07:13] <ninjagambit> enrique: englesis
[07:13] <ninjagambit> english
[07:13] <enrique> my name is Henry
[07:13] <enrique> I have  proble
[07:13] <ninjagambit> lol
[07:13] <enrique> i am new in this system operative
[07:14] <enrique> i have want instal firefox
[07:14] <bazhang> enrique: open up adept and install firefox
[07:14] <enrique> tanks
[07:16] <bazhang> de nada :}
[07:17] <enrique> bazhang you speak spanish?
[07:17] <kamui__> HOLAS
[07:18] <kamui__> UXAS
[07:18] <kamui__> hola alguien en español ha de hablar por aca?
[07:19] <enrique> si
[07:19] <enrique> yo carnka
[07:19] <enrique> kamui
[07:19] <ardchoille> !es | enrique
[07:19] <ubotu> enrique: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:19] <kamui__> holas
[07:19] <kamui__> bien o no?
[07:19] <ardchoille> !es | kamui__
[07:19] <ubotu> kamui__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:19] <bazhang> enrique: a little (un pequito)
[07:19] <enrique> ok
[07:19] <kamui__> a bueno
[07:20] <kamui__> como estan?
[07:20] <kamui__> bien o no?
[07:20] <enrique> pues bien yo soy nuevo
[07:20] <kamui__> que tanto?
[07:20] <ardchoille> Es neccesito usar Ingles en esta canal
[07:21] <Jucato> kamui__, enrique: English only please
[07:21]  * Jucato should really have learned Spanish in high school...
[07:21] <kamui__> .....
[07:21] <kamui__> que tan nuevo eres?
[07:21] <ardchoille> He's not even listening when I said it in Spanish
[07:22] <kamui__> ok speak in spañish
[07:22] <kamui__> spanish
[07:22] <enrique> tanks kamui
[07:22] <enrique> pues soy tan nuevo que quiero instalr firefox
[07:22] <enrique> jiji
[07:22] <Jucato> Do NOT speak in Spanish in here. This is an English channel.
[07:22] <kamui__> one moment i am goback
[07:22] <Jucato> !es | enrique and kamui__
[07:23] <ubotu> enrique and kamui__: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:23] <enrique> gracias ubotu
[07:23] <enrique> good night all
[07:24] <enrique> hola
[07:24] <enrique> buenas noches a todos
[07:24] <enrique> soy nuevo en kubuntu
[07:24] <enrique> y requiero instalar firefox
[07:24] <enrique> como le puedo hacer
[07:24] <ardchoille> enrique: You can obviously speak English, please do so or some of these folks will refuse to help you.
[07:25] <Jucato> or do even worse...
[07:25] <ardchoille> True, ignore an op and you're out of here.
[07:25] <bazhang> indeed enrique--you should know better :}
[07:26] <enrique> I want instal FireFox
[07:26] <bazhang> enrique: and I told you how to do so: open adept and install firefox
[07:26] <ardchoille> enrique: sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:26] <ardchoille> bazhang: Sorry, didn't you you had already helped him
[07:27] <kamui__> go to sistem)adept)firefox)install
[07:27] <bazhang> ardchoille: I helped, but he didn't read :}
[07:27] <kamui__> enrique?
[07:27] <enrique> ok
[07:28] <enrique> kamui
[07:28] <kamui__> go system-administrator adept-firefox-install
[07:28] <enrique> i am solicited instalation tanks
[07:28] <kamui__> ok
[07:29] <normie__> morning people
[07:29] <kamui__> hello
[07:31] <normie__> does anyone have experience in configuring a broadcom1390 wireless card?
[07:32] <emilsedgh> normie__: yes
[07:32] <emilsedgh> normie__: i did it with ndisrapper for feisty, but that should be easy now in gutsy
[07:32] <kamui__> y donde estan todos
[07:32] <emilsedgh> s/ndisrapper/ndiswrapper
[07:33] <normie__> emilsedgh thanks for replying i can't seem to get it to work, i tried ndiswrapper
[07:33] <emilsedgh> normie__: did you try to do it with Kubuntu's Restricted Manager?
[07:34] <normie__> emilsedgh yes and the light goes blue but then goes back to orange
[07:34] <emilsedgh> normie__: dunno then.i never tried it because im still on feisty :)
[07:35] <normie__> how did you get it to work om fiesty? which manual did u use?
[07:38] <enrique> i have problem plugin File Shockwave Flash
[07:38] <enrique> help
[07:39] <emilsedgh> normie__: i cant remember, but i remember that it was so easy with ndiswrapper
[07:40] <normie__> emilsedgh if i read the manuals it all seems easy but i can't get it to work. it's frustrating. what kinda laptop do you have
[07:41] <emilsedgh> normie__: i have a dell inspiron
[07:41] <normie__> emilsedgh i have a hp pavilion dv6225us
[07:41] <emilsedgh> normie__: should work really, i dunno whats the problem.
[07:42] <kamui__> enrique
[07:43] <kamui__> wath link for  download kubuntu?
[07:43] <normie__> emilsedgh me neither the light doens't even come on. i tried opensuse and the works but my system then hangs
[07:44] <emilsedgh> normie__: what was the problem with ndiswrapper?
[07:44] <kamui__> wath download site for kubuntu?
[07:44] <normie__> emilsedgh well i do all the steps and those seem to work but my card still doesnt get recognized
[07:44] <emilsedgh> normie__: as i remember i downloaded the driver from dell website.it was named something.exe but it was a zip file.i extracted it and find a .inf file in it and ndiswrapper - i file.inf
[07:45] <kamui__> tanks
[07:46] <kamui__> o.k tanks everibody bye....
[07:47] <kamui__> on the next time
[07:47] <kamui__> bye...
[07:47] <normie__> emilsedgh i've done that but still nada :-( i have reinstalled linux more the 10 times already trying to get it to work from a clean intall
[07:48] <emilsedgh> normie__: no, reinstalling linux gives you nothing
[07:49] <emilsedgh> normie__: but sorry i cant help on this, but my advice is 1)reinstalling gives you nothing 2)try to fix the restricted managers problem
[07:50] <jpiccolo> anyone know grep with regex good?
[07:50] <normie__> just tried it again, my light turn blue but after 1 sec turn off again
[08:02] <_DT> is there a way to remove the gnome-style file browser that sometimes appears in kubuntu?
[08:02] <_DT> I'd rather just use the KDE one
[08:05] <_DT> it often comes up when browsing to open or save a file. The icons are not as nice as the latest crystal set ;-)
[08:06] <emilsedgh> _DT: in which application?
[08:06] <emilsedgh> _DT: maybe because you are using a gtk+/gnome application?
[08:07] <_DT> hmmm, can't think of an app offhand. It just seems to popup now and then. perhaps it is a gtk thing
[08:08] <_DT> not a big problem, I just thought perhaps there was an easy way to uninstall the gnome version of the file browser
[08:18] <adamonline45> Hello.  Is it possible to install Avant Window Manager in Kubuntu?
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !lit
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> !find ebook
[08:28] <ubotu> Found: alcovebook-sgml, alcovebook-sgml-doc, notebook-gtk2, ebook-dev-alp, ebook-dev-ggad (and 4 others)
[08:28] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[08:39] <crashev> there is no skype in unbuntu 7.10 reps ?
[08:40] <Jucato> I don't think there ever was.
[08:41] <Jucato> !skype
[08:41] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:47] <emilsedgh> Jucato: so, exactly which project(s) you were talking about?
[08:48] <Jucato> it's a secret :)
[08:48] <emilsedgh> so keep your secret :)
[08:48] <Jucato> I've heard that "statement" quite many times already... from distros to DE's to (the latest) kftpgrabber and ftp:/ :)
[08:49] <emilsedgh> aah
[08:49] <Jucato> it's quite common :)
[08:49] <emilsedgh> yes, beryl/compiz too
[08:49] <emilsedgh> but kftpgrabber isnt a fork of ftp kio slave, is it?
[08:49] <Jucato> that's one project that succeeded in merging :)
[08:50] <Jucato> dunno. the comment on the Dot just triggered my rant-mode :)
[08:51] <emilsedgh> aah, KDE has a nice ecosystem.TheDot, Planet, OSNews, Commit Digest, Mailing Lists and IRC are living so cute together!
[08:51] <Jucato> OSNews? O.o
[08:53] <Jucato> aaaanyway... :)
[08:53] <emilsedgh> Jucato: its KDE News are getting lots of attention.devs response in there too...
[08:53]  * Jucato puts the topic back on, and scavenges for some food
[08:53] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yeah, mostly to defend themselves :)
[08:55]  * Jucato recalls some past articles/"news" that totally misrepresented KDE and pissed devs off (like aseigo...)
[08:55] <Jucato> last year I think. forgot the topic :P
[08:55] <emilsedgh> haha yes
[08:55] <emilsedgh> aseigo was under lots of criticism in these 2 years
[08:56] <Jucato> anyway. :)
[08:57]  * Jucato ->isGone(); // returns true
[09:00] <kubuntuhelp> hi..which is the program that I must download to deluge-torrent.org for kubuntu gutsy?
[09:01] <Jucato> !info deluge-torrent
[09:01] <ubotu> deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.4.1-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 3059 kB, installed size 10740 kB
[09:03] <kubuntuhelp> Jucato, ok, but do I download ubuntu version or debian version?  I'm sorry for my english
[09:06] <kubuntuhelp> ok..I solve..the ubuntu version...thank you all
[09:16] <sigma> how do i enable the cube desktop on compiz?
[09:17] <emilsedgh> sigma: use compiz-settings-manager to change compiz settings
[09:18] <sigma> emilsedgh, i did that but when i press ctrl+alt+right arrow after that the cube doesn't appear, the desktop just flips
[09:18] <emilsedgh> sigma: does alt+ctrl+click brings cube?
[09:19] <emilsedgh> sigma: maybe you should enable 'rotate cube' tooo?
[09:21] <sigma> i enabled rotate cube and tried alt+ctrl+click and it don't work - im using the nvidia 6600GT if that helps
[09:22] <habdel> !info brctl
[09:22] <ubotu> Package brctl does not exist in gutsy
[09:22] <habdel> !brctl
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brctl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <sigma> whats brctl?
[09:22] <habdel> it is bridge control util.
[09:23] <habdel> I am having headache with it
[09:23] <sigma> emilsedgh: all da other effects r working except for da cube and i have 4 desktops enabled so it shudn't be flipping it
[09:27] <sigma> habdel: what does it do?
[09:27] <habdel> I want to enable internet on my virtualbox machine which means I have to setup kind of bridge between my machine and the virtual one
[09:28] <llutz> habdel: the package is bridge-utils
[09:29] <habdel> llutz: yes thanks, I am aware of that .. the problem is to configure it
[09:29] <llutz> habdel: and howto set it up is nicely described at virtualbox-userdocumentation
[09:30] <habdel> llutz: I've special case here, I connect to the internet using vpn
[09:33] <frogface__> Hi, could I ask a quick question on laptop-mode and the dreaded ubuntu load_cycle count bug at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591503
[09:35] <posingaspopular> frogface__: continue..
[09:35] <frogface__> Well, I'll just go ahead anyway :)
[09:35] <frogface__> Ah. Beat me too it!
[09:35] <frogface__> Ok.
[09:36] <frogface__> From the solution at that url I don't understand why just installing laptop mode and disabling APM is the suggested solution.
[09:36] <frogface__> Is there a reason that laptop-mode wasn't suggested?
[09:37] <Stevethepirate> hi.
[09:37]  * Stevethepirate waits for the !hi | Stevethepirate 
[09:38] <posingaspopular> frogface__: ive read the post but dont understand it myself completly. maybe someone else knows or try emailing the guy who wrote the post
[09:38] <posingaspopular> hey Stevethepirate
[09:39] <frogface__> posingaspopular: Thanks for the help. It's a long long post. I'll eventually work my way to the end!
[09:41] <Stevethepirate> Hi. Anyone .. I need a way to make my "line out" jack on my PC become a subwoofer out... i.e. apply an equalizer to it.
[09:42] <fdoving> Stevethepirate: let me know if you find a solution to that, i've been looking for that too.
[09:42] <posingaspopular> hmmm... Stevethepirate, maybe alsamixer? im not too good with sound
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> fdoving: i'm talking to one of my jabber friends about it..
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> he's directed me to a decent site..
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Low-pass_filter_for_subwoofer_channel_(HOWTO)
[09:43] <fdoving> thanks :)
[09:56] <Stevethepirate> Hi. I'm on gutsy.. looking [reading a guide] but i lack /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc.conf
[10:03] <Bobson> system settings doesnt allow admin mode!!!
[10:03] <Bobson> pls help
[10:04] <Bobson> any1 awake?
[10:04] <emilsedgh> yes ?
[10:05] <Bobson> could you help me out?
[10:12] <RogueJediX> My PC just rebooted for no reason for the third time today (and it's only 11 AM). Is there any system log so I can see what happened?
[10:13] <llutz> RogueJediX: check /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages and further check your cpu-temperature and do a ramtest (memtest)
[10:13] <RogueJediX> Thanks, llutz
[10:17] <RogueJediX> I've just realised I don't know what message I'm looking for. I think I'll do a memtest first. brb
[10:42] <TimS> For some reason, when i logged in it reset KDE and i had to set it up again, but now when i hightlight anything it automaticaly copies it, how can I stop this?
[10:43] <emilsedgh> TimS: thats for clipper.its in system tray, take a look at it
[10:43] <TimS> Okay, I was just thinking that :P
[10:44] <TimS> Cheers
[10:56] <TheInfinity> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632097 <-- anyone who knows what there might be wrong?
[10:58] <yakuzi> hi all
[10:59] <yakuzi> i've some strange "problem" : i choose red for selected items, but in adept it's still the blue from the standard install (selected items, dowloading updates, scrollbar etc) while it's all red in my settings
[11:00] <CrocoJet> good morning everyone !
[11:01] <CrocoJet> how can I make install group programs (.deb) with unique command ?
[11:01] <llutz> CrocoJet: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:02] <CrocoJet> llutz, thanks
[11:06] <milestone> hi all
[11:07] <milestone> are there any repositories available which provide access to the kde4 rc1
[11:07] <milestone> ?
[11:08] <milestone> read the topic first, ey?
[11:08] <milestone> nevermind
[11:13] <emilsedgh> milestone: today rc2 will be tagged.next week rc2 will come.better to wait until then?
[11:43] <fildo> !compizfusion
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <fildo> !compiz
[11:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:45] <slav3_kitten> mman i got the good pills
[11:46] <slav3_kitten> any time you wake up in a pool of drool you know they prescribed the good stuff
[11:47] <ben_> hi all
[11:51] <maverick> i have a problem, K3B won't let me Burn unless I Sudo , any ideas ?!!
[11:51] <maverick> probably username is not i devices group?!
[11:51] <maverick> in*
[11:52] <slav3_kitten> or your trying to burn files you dont have read permissions for
[11:52] <maverick> slav3_kitten: am sure i have permission to read these files
[11:53] <maverick> slav3_kitten: the thing is i looked at the user group settings
[11:53] <slav3_kitten> your first idea is prolly right
[11:53] <maverick> am added to the devices group
[11:53] <slav3_kitten> oddd
[11:53] <maverick> it was burning
[11:53] <maverick> suddenly it doesn't unless i sudo
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> if i was a lil more with reality i'd be able to help. but to be honest i'm wasted on pain pills because i'm recovering from surgery
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> but you know, check prmissions for where its creating temp files
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> or do you burn on the fly?
[11:54] <slav3_kitten> ive had installs of things magically change directory permissions an screw things like that up
[11:55] <maverick> slav3_kitten: the CDROM deivce is /dev/sg0
[11:55] <slav3_kitten> right
[11:55] <slav3_kitten> but where is it creating the temp iso file to burn
[11:55] <maverick> slav3_kitten: when chown it to my user... K3B burns without SUDO
[11:56] <slav3_kitten> like i said i'm a lil high on a buncha narcodic pain killers
[11:56] <maverick> slav3_kitten: it's not about the temp path it's about that sg0 get created with root permissions
[11:56] <slav3_kitten> because i had my tonsils dug outa my throat yesterday
[11:57] <maverick> ???
[11:57] <slav3_kitten> i had to have an emergency tonsilectomy yesterday at 3am, they spent 4 hours scraping out infection an tonsils from my throat
[11:58] <maverick> slav3_kitten: well, speedy recovery
[11:58] <slav3_kitten> what shoulda been a 30 minute make 2 slits an pop the tonsils out because a 4 hours removal of abcessed tonsils
[11:58] <slav3_kitten> so yea i'm a bit outta it
[11:58] <maverick> slav3_kitten:nyways i guess i;ll stick to SUDO with nero as am fed up with k3b not being able to import sessions
[11:59] <slav3_kitten> awww
[11:59] <slav3_kitten> i'm kinda drifting back to sleep agaim
[12:02] <matt> i have a problem with my epson stylus photo 915 printer and i beleave the probem is in the udev rules and the wrong permisions are set.. does anyone know where i can fild the rule for epson printers in the udev rules?
[12:03] <slav3_kitten> do you know the udev rule filename?
[12:04] <slav3_kitten> if so
[12:04] <matt> thats what im looking for. the only refances i can find are printerscanners in the libsane rule file but i cant find the file containing the rule for epson stylus photo 915
[12:05] <slav3_kitten> goto your root directory an type sudo find -name thenameoffile
[12:05] <slav3_kitten> or like *photo*915*
[12:05] <RogueJediX> Well, the memtest turned up nothing
[12:09] <matt> all i can find is under epson and it shows me the path /usr/lib/cups/backend/epson
[12:10] <matt> :/usr/lib/cups/backend$ ls -l
[12:10] <matt> total 216
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  7200 2007-07-20 12:51 beh
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15464 2007-10-08 12:38 canon
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 16136 2007-10-08 12:38 epson
[12:10] <RogueJediX> If I pasted my /var/log messages and syslog, could someone look at it and tell me what's up with my computer rebooting for no reason?
[12:10] <matt> -rwx------ 3 root root 24136 2007-11-01 16:24 http
[12:10] <matt> -rwx------ 3 root root 24136 2007-11-01 16:24 ipp
[12:10] <matt> -rwx------ 2 root root 19156 2007-11-01 16:24 lpd
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  4718 2006-11-08 17:11 mtink
[12:10] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 14324 2007-11-01 16:24 parallel
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root  6592 2007-11-01 16:24 scsi
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 14328 2007-11-01 16:24 serial
[12:11] <matt> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    21 2007-11-18 12:47 smb -> ../../../bin/smbspool
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 24872 2007-11-01 16:24 snmp
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12708 2007-11-01 16:24 socket
[12:11] <matt> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 15684 2007-11-01 16:24 usb
[12:11] <matt> matt@base-unit:/usr/lib/cups/backend$
[12:12] <NickPresta> !pastebin | matt
[12:12] <ubotu> matt: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <matt> soz nick new to irc
[12:29] <jtmoney> i'm torn between xp/mediaportal and ubuntu/myth on my media center box. as far as my hauppauge 150 goes, it looks MUCH better under windows than it does in linux. anyone know as to why? different drivers?
[12:31] <bucatoamano> !ot
[12:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> Yay, new version of Firefox finally got into the repository
[12:51] <soumyajyoti> ineed help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:54] <bazhang> soumyatoji what's the problem?
[12:55] <Jack111> hi
[12:55] <bazhang> heya
[12:55] <Jack111> can anyone help?when i click on a link, firefox alway opens two tabs instead of one
[12:56] <bazhang> Jack111: right click not working?
[12:57] <Jack111> bazhang: right gives me the context menu, open url, bookmark link, save,copy.left click opens the two tabs
[12:58] <bazhang> Jack111: you got adblockplus plugin, noscript or any others going?
[13:01] <Jack111> bazhang: i have the default adblock thing and i didnt install noscript either, some other addons though
[13:03] <bazhang> Jack111: I suspect you need to fiddle with your firefox preferences on link clicking behaviour--may also want to check the subscriptions you have for adblockplus
[13:04] <crashev> kubuntu is compatible with debian - installing debian packages should be ok ?
[13:04] <Jack111> bazhang: but i cannot do that in the preferences in firefox, can i? only in the systems ettings?
[13:05] <bazhang> crashev: what do you have in mind? using debian repositories with Kubuntu?
[13:05] <titanix88> hello
[13:05] <crashev> bazhang: rather just some packages from debian, not repos
[13:06] <bazhang> Jack111: have you checked out if you can? there are preferences for firefox that decide that behaviour
[13:06] <crashev> !skype
[13:06] <bazhang> crashev: use at your own risk :}
[13:06] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[13:07] <crashev> bazhang: I thought there is some kind of compatibility and it is safe in some way :)
[13:08] <dthacker> Is there an Adobe Reader package available for Kubuntu?  KGhostview is chopping off the bottom of my document when I print it.
[13:08] <bazhang> crashev: why not use the kubuntu/ubuntu packages? they are without a doubt safe :}
[13:08] <Jack111> bazhang: no that only says open in new wondow or new tab..anyway trying out some stuff, it will work some time
[13:08] <crashev> bazhang: because there are lack of some packages
[13:09] <crashev> bazhang: I would use it if they were available
[13:09] <bazhang> dthacker: like acroread or something other
[13:09] <dthacker> ah acroread.  let me see if I can find that
[13:09] <bazhang> dthacker: believe it is in the medibuntu.org repositories
[13:10] <dthacker> bazhang: ok
[13:10] <bazhang> crashev: I tend to be conservative in this regard so probably not the best person to ask :}
[13:12] <webus_> dthacker: Acrobat: sudo apt-get install acroread acroread-plugins
[13:13] <dthacker> package acroread not found
[13:14] <dthacker> is that in the "partner" repository
[13:14] <dthacker> ?
[13:14] <stdin> it's not in the repos, you have to install from their sire (not in partner either)
[13:14] <bazhang> dthacker: you may need to add the medibuntu repositories first, then fetch updates, then install
[13:17] <bazhang> dthacker: I stand corrected :}
[13:17] <webus_> dthacker: I installed Acrobat with the Automatix Package. Get it here: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[13:18] <dthacker> um, I see it in medibuntu.   please stand by....
[13:18] <bazhang> automatix may break your system
[13:18] <stdin> not "may" will
[13:18] <stdin> it's evil
[13:18] <stdin> pure evil, and not supported
[13:19] <bazhang> ugh oh for two today
[13:20] <ciacon> hi all... how can I load vesa-fb @ startup?? I miss a high-res command line ;-)
[13:20] <stdin> put it in /etc/modules (and regenerate initrd.img probably)
[13:21] <stdin> "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[13:21] <webus_> dthacker: kpdf is also a superb Viewer for pdf and ps. perhaps you might give it a try. And perhaps you have the wrong paper size in the printer dialog which cuts your documents off.
[13:22] <dthacker> acroread is installed but now I have to go.  tnx for the help
[13:24] <sebbar> hi, where do I find the packages libqimageblitz4 libqimageblitz4-dev and libcaptury-dev which are needed to build kde 4? I'm on gutsy
[13:25] <sebbar> sorry I meant feisty
[13:27] <sdlnxgk> !ssh
[13:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[13:27] <sdlnxgk> !sftp
[13:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:27] <tiom> hi i hope someone can help me with this problem. all the relevant informations ans symptoms should bi in the paste. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46951/
[13:28] <reda> hello biatch !
[13:28] <bazhang> reda please stop
[13:29] <stdin> sebbar: it's not in feisty, that's why the kde4 packages wern't built for it. consider upgrading to gutsy
[13:30] <sebbar> stdin: ah I see. unfortunately my laptop has problems with gutsy. ok tnx
[13:30] <sdlnxgk> Hello everyone !!!
[13:31] <sdlnxgk> is there anyway to monitor SSH and SFTP connections??
[13:31] <stdin> monitor how?
[13:31] <sdlnxgk> stdin, to see which users are logged in downloading from sftp server
[13:32] <stdin> sdlnxgk: who/w/lastlog
[13:32] <sdlnxgk> who and w doens't work
[13:33] <sdlnxgk> haven't tried lastlog yet is that real time?
[13:33] <sdlnxgk> !lastlog
[13:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lastlog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:33] <lola> Hey
[13:33] <stdin> sdlnxgk: it just tells you the last time someone logged in
[13:34] <stdin> (and from where)
[13:34] <stdin> w and who (and ps I guess) are "real time"
[13:34] <lola> Kubuntu rox my sox
[13:35]  * ScorpKing waves to everyone..
[13:35] <ScorpKing> top --> "5376 root       0 -20     0    0    0 S 70.8  0.0 679:23.09 loop0" is that normal?
[13:35] <tof> !ubuntu version > me
[13:36] <stdin> ScorpKing: depends what you're doing :p  loop0 is a loopback device for mounting files (like ISOs)
[13:36] <ScorpKing> the loopback enctypted filesystem uses 70.8+ cpu
[13:36] <stdin> ahh, encryption
[13:36] <ScorpKing> yes
[13:36] <sdlnxgk> stdin, thanks i'm testing out w and who now but never seen any other user logged in before other then me
[13:36] <ScorpKing> blowfish btw
[13:37] <stdin> I doubt that's "normal" but depends I guess
[13:37] <stdin> sdlnxgk: there's also /var/log/auth.log
[13:38] <ScorpKing> oh well.. i'm copying my old disks to the new encrypted one but it's very slow. maybe it's normal then.
[13:38] <ciacon> hi all - I have a problem in menu.lst... I just added the following "vga=791", but I can't see my command line anymore... any hints??
[13:38] <stdin> ScorpKing: I think if you're doing a lot of I/O with it, then you can expect it to be high, processing a lot of data as quickly as it can
[13:39] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: hey! :D
[13:40] <FlashWolf> how can i use rmdir and avoid "Directory is not empty"
[13:40] <stdin> ciacon: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[13:40] <ScorpKing> stdin: thanks. maybe it's the 166Mhz 96MB RAM box as well. hehe
[13:40] <FlashWolf> i wanna remove all in a dir
[13:40] <ScorpKing> hiya FlashWolf! :)
[13:40] <ciacon> stdin: lemme have a look
[13:40] <stdin> FlashWolf: you can't, but that's why "rm -r" was made for :)
[13:40] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: rm -r /dir
[13:41] <FlashWolf> thx!
[13:41] <ScorpKing> rm -r is usefull but i've been sorry a few times. lol
[13:42] <stdin> you should _always_ be careful with rm ;)
[13:42]  * ScorpKing learned never to do anything in a hurry..
[13:42] <sdlnxgk> or when you are tired for that fact !!
[13:42] <hcbox> somebody use k9copy ?
[13:42]  * ScorpKing nods..
[13:42] <sdlnxgk> CLI doesn't have a trash bin to get it back
[13:42] <sdlnxgk> learned that one the hard way
[13:42] <poison--> mornin guys
[13:42] <ciacon> stdin: shouldn't I be able to see somthing like "fb..." or "fra..." when I do "lsmod | grep ..."
[13:42] <poison--> ScorpKing :D
[13:42] <ScorpKing> hi poison--!
[13:42] <poison--> sup
[13:42] <ScorpKing> bored
[13:43] <poison--> eheheh
[13:43] <poison--> install some fatal crap into your machine and have a nice day trying to get it alive again
[13:43] <poison--> lol
[13:43] <stdin> ciacon: yep, but I just remembered that all FB modules are blacklisted by default :p so you have to un-blacklist the ones you want
[13:44] <ciacon> stdin: how would I do that??
[13:44] <stdin> ciacon: edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer    just comment out the ones you want to use
[13:44] <ScorpKing> poison--: i'm waiting for my disks to copy over but it's gonna be a while. so now i just wait. not in the mood to break anything. :P
[13:44] <ciacon> stdin: one mo...
[13:44] <poison--> eheheh
[13:45] <poison--> had a scary issue on satuday
[13:45] <poison--> saturday even
[13:45] <stdin> ScorpKing: if you're really bored you can package PyKDE4 for me :)
[13:45] <poison--> rebooted and it wont boot anymore
[13:45] <poison--> said my HD was f@#& up
[13:45] <ScorpKing> poison--: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <poison--> k
[13:45] <ciacon> stdin: I suppose the one I am looking for is the "vesafb" module...
[13:45] <poison--> sorry guys
[13:45] <poison--> forgot
[13:46] <stdin> ciacon: probably yeah, I gave up on framebuffers long ago so I'm a bit foggy on it all now
[13:47] <ciacon> stdin: 5 years ago I stated on gentoo... looking back I am actually astounded how I got by with that ;-)
[13:48] <ciacon> stdin: slightly offtopic but still a laugh  -->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0
[13:49] <stdin> well, I haven't install flash get, so can't watch that :p
[13:49] <stdin> (new install of hardy)
[13:50] <stdin> s/get/yet/
[13:53] <maltaethiron> HELP!  I have a presentation I need to give in a couple minutes, and the file is in a pptx format (MS Office 2007)  can anybody help me??
[13:54] <neville> Pray =)
[13:54] <stdin> try opening them in OpenOffice.org Presentation
[13:54] <maltaethiron> i tried, but its not compatable with .pptx files
[13:55] <maltaethiron> Is there anything that I can download in Synaptic that will help me out?
[13:56] <stdin> maybe pptview
[13:56] <FlashWolf> ScorpKing: i'm not getting run ccsm here (kubuntu)...
[13:56] <stdin> !info pptview
[13:56] <FlashWolf> why? :(
[13:56] <ubotu> pptview: view PowerPoint slide shows. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0-5 (gutsy), package size 1752 kB, installed size 3684 kB (Only available for i386)
[13:56] <FlashWolf> i installed it
[13:56] <maltaethiron> thanks, ill try that
[13:56] <FlashWolf> i open, it says "Loading...", then closes
[13:57] <ScorpKing> FlashWolf: sorry, i have to go now. will be back later.
[13:57] <FlashWolf> and i need ccsm (CompizConfig-Settings-Manager)
[13:57] <FlashWolf> someone could help me?
[14:01] <ciacon> stdin: I rebooted (after having commented out vesafb), but I still habe a black screen.... I was thinking... my monitor is telling me that it's a 740x400 resolution.... vga=791 should rather be something like 1024×768...
[14:05] <maltaethiron> so is there any way to open pptx files in kubuntu?
[14:06] <stdin> ciacon: what's your graphics card?
[14:06] <ciacon> stdin: I added "vesafb" to /etc/modules... time for a reboot...
[14:06] <StevenR> maltaethiron: no, afaik. ask the source to convert them to old ppt
[14:06] <ciacon> stdin: have a Radeon X850XT
[14:06] <maltaethiron> StevenR: alright thanks
[14:06] <antiNeo> how come when I enter my password wrong in kubuntu gusty, it gives me: login failed and doesn't give me a chance to try again? then I have to kill X with ctl+alt+backspace
[14:07] <ciacon> stdin: I'll reboot... brb
[14:07] <stdin> ciacon: you can try radeonfb if visafb doesn't work
[14:07]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:10] <ciacon> stdin: back again... adding vesafb to /etc/modules did nothing =(
[14:11] <stdin> did you run "sudo update-initramfs -u" after ?
[14:13] <ciacon> stdin: nope... is that a nesessety
[14:15] <stdin> yeah, because it needs to update the modules file in initrd.img (because it loads before the disk is mounted)
[14:16] <ciacon> stdin: ah... gimme a sec...
[14:18] <ciacon> stdin:time for a reboot
[14:18] <stdin> worth a shot :)
[14:20] <ciacon> stdin: btw... I have a Q... as soon as I update the kernel (apt-get...), do I have to do "sudo update-initramfs -u" (or similar) again??
[14:21] <stdin> shouldn't have to, no. because the initrd.img gets created on your system for the 1st time anyway
[14:21] <ciacon> stdin: oki
[14:21] <ciacon> stdin: reboot ;-)
[14:24] <enrique> alguien que hable spanish espacñol
[14:24] <enrique> i have a problem
[14:25] <ciacon> !es | enrique
[14:25] <ubotu> enrique: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:27] <enrique> taks
[14:34] <barata> hi, now anytime I start kde I always get this message saying "Mime is whatever"
[14:35] <barata> what's going on? how can I clean that ?
[14:35] <barata> I dont even know to what that is related
[14:42] <crashev> what application is responsible for handling multimedia keys in kubuntu?
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> crashev: kino
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> !hotkeys
[14:44] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[14:45] <barata> ok ... it's solved
[14:45] <barata> bye
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> bye
[14:47] <TheFuzzball> Hi, I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu Gutsy and I want to use the Flash plugin with Konqueror, I downloaded the plugin from adobe's site and put it in a folder that konqueror watched, but whenever I try and view flash nspluginviewer crashes
[14:47] <TheFuzzball> does anyone else have this problem?
[14:47] <stdin> !flash
[14:47] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:48] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[14:48] <oleh_> I have audigy sound card and it's doesn't work correectly. What's I must do... I install LINUX at first time....
[14:49] <oleh_> Pease help
[14:49] <stdin> !sound | try this
[14:49] <ubotu> try this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:49] <crashev> nosrednaekim: I dont seem to have installed kino, I wonder because my multimedia keys work, but what application handles it, still cant find..
[14:50] <stdin> crashev: the kernel and Xorg mostly
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy All  : )
[14:52] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj!
[14:52] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[14:53] <BluesKaj> wonder if tarin was able to solve the dhcp prob
[14:53] <joseph> for some reason, i can load the screen saver list from kcontrol as root, but when i view that list as any other user, it is empty.  can anyone help me figure that out?
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: no... at least not by 11:30 when I had to go ;)
[14:54] <BluesKaj> yeah, nosrednaekim i hit the sack shortly thereafter too...it was already 30mins past my bedtime :)
[14:54] <Dragonath> if adept messes up, how do I make kubuntu understand that there's nothing using the package database thingie?
[14:55] <Jack111> hi
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: and about an hour pst mine XD
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[14:55] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:55] <Dragonath> ah thanks
[14:56] <Jack111> i have got the problem that firefox wont play quicktime files, read many howto, and the mplayer is properly installed, it still wont work..
[14:56] <BluesKaj> we're getting a lot of those , adept notifier/updater is failing a lot on gutsy it seems
[14:56] <joseph> BluesKaj: it happened with me.  i had to upgrade the packages manually
[14:56] <stdin> BluesKaj: failed a lot on feisty too
[14:57] <stdin> and edgy
[14:57] <stdin> and dapper...
[14:57] <Dragonath> it hasn't failed me once yet, but I guess the problem was that I was trying to install java sdks while eclipse was running
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> XD
[14:58] <joseph> anyone have an idea about my screen saver problem?
[14:58] <hw_> After upgrading to 7.10 I get "This client is too old to work with working copy" when using eSvn. Any ideas howto fix this... ?
[14:59] <crashev> stdin: it looks like there is some external application for handling it...
[14:59] <Dragonath> maybe the screen saver files are readable only by root?
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> hw_: eh... what is eSVN? a client or the server.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Jack111, do a 'about:plugins' in the FF addressbar and see if Totem 2.20.0 plugin is installed under quicktime
[15:01] <joseph> Dragonath: that's possible but i haven't changed their permissions.  where are those files located so i can check their perms?
[15:01] <hw_> nosrednaekim: Its a Qt client
[15:01] <Dragonath> I have no idea, joseph
[15:01] <joseph> ok
[15:01] <nosrednaekim> hw_: oh, ok. IDK then, can you do svn up from the command line?
[15:01] <Dragonath> perhaps running kcontrol from a terminal would help?
[15:01] <joseph> how would that help?
[15:02] <hw_> nosrednaekim: yes
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> Dragonath: maybe
[15:02] <joseph> it doesn't make any difference; kcontrol exits normally
[15:02] <Dragonath> well maybe you'd see where it tries to read the files from, and the errors
[15:02] <joseph> there aren't any errors, though
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> hw_: is there a newer version of eSVN avaiable?
[15:03] <joseph> does anyone know where kde's screen savers are located?
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> joseph: I can check... one moment
[15:03] <joseph> thanks
[15:03] <hw_> nosrednaekim: that comes with 7.10...
[15:04] <fdoving> joseph: /usr/bin/*.kss
[15:04] <joseph> fdoving: thanks
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: beat me to it <_<
[15:04] <joseph> there were only two files revealed there, fdoving
[15:04] <joseph> and both of them are readable by everyone
[15:04] <joseph> and executable by everyone
[15:04] <fdoving> joseph: then you don't have the kscreensaver package installed.
[15:05] <Jack111> BluesKaj: thanks, no, i dont..to make sure here is what i have http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2483/
[15:05] <fdoving> joseph: what's your problem?
[15:05] <joseph> fdoving: i can view the screen saver list in kcontrol as root, but not as any other user.
[15:05] <Jack111> BluesKaj: so i dont need the mplayer, but the totem?
[15:06] <fdoving> joseph: interessting. done anything special?
[15:06] <oleh_> How work Kubuntu Device Database?My hardware data has been sent to server. And? I must wait for something?
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> joseph: what does "apt-cache policy kscreensaver" say?
[15:06] <fdoving> oleh_: no, it's just an huge database of users hardware specs.
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> are those specs ever used?
[15:07] <fdoving> http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[15:07] <joseph> nosrednaekim: well, i just reinstalled it (doesn't make any difference to my problem, though):
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> joseph: so what does "dpkg -L kscreensaver" say?
[15:08] <fdoving> joseph: so you have no screensavers in the list, or a few, or one?
[15:08] <joseph> the output to apt-cache policy kscreensaver:  http://pastebin.com/d47be06da
[15:08] <joseph> fdoving: none
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Jack111, yes you have the right enabled totem plugin for quicktime media
[15:09] <Jack111> BluesKaj: still dont work...
[15:09] <joseph> dpkg -L output:  http://pastebin.com/d798d1923
[15:09] <nosrednaekim> joseph: thanks
[15:10] <fdoving> joseph: looks like your screensavers are there.
[15:10] <joseph> yeah
[15:10] <joseph> i just can't configure them heh
[15:10] <nosrednaekim> joseph: looks fine... odd
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Jack111, hangon lemme check around a bit
[15:10] <joseph> and all those screensavers have these permissions:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[15:11] <joseph> so if all the screensavers are there, and their permissions are appropriate, what else could cause this problem?
[15:12] <joseph> heh, everyone's out of answers then, i take it?
[15:13] <fdoving> joseph: you can try to run 'kbuildsycoca' from the commandline, then try again.
[15:13] <joseph> fdoving: i did that yesterday, and it had no effect
[15:14] <joseph> i can do it again, though, if you want and paste the output?
[15:14] <fdoving> i don't need the output.
[15:14] <joseph> ok
[15:14] <joseph> it doesn't say anything about screen savers in the output anyway
[15:15] <fdoving> joseph: you don't have even Blank Screen showing up in your list of screensavers?
[15:15] <joseph> fdoving: the list is empty when kcontrol is run as any other user besides root
[15:17] <fdoving> joseph: checked permissions for files in /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers ?
[15:18] <joseph> hmm
[15:18] <joseph> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7397 2007-10-12 16:52 zoom.desktop
[15:18] <joseph> those perms are correct, though, aren't they?
[15:19] <fdoving> joseph: yep.
[15:19] <joseph> :(
[15:20] <joseph> so if it's not permissions what could it be?
[15:20] <joseph> i asked in #kde and Sho_ said: <Sho_> joseph: Sounds like your environment ($KDEDIRS) might be set up wrong
[15:20] <joseph> but he said he didn't have any time to help me evaluate that possibility
[15:21] <joseph> if i echo $KDEDIRS there is nothing
[15:21] <joseph> but i've never messed with any environment variables
[15:21] <fdoving> joseph: is this a clean gutsy install?
[15:22] <joseph> fdoving: no, it's an upgrade from feisty.
[15:22] <joseph> however, after the initial upgrade to gutsy, things worked normally
[15:22] <joseph> maybe it got screwed up after some update
[15:22] <joseph> not sure though.
[15:22] <fdoving> I have an updated feisty too, should work just fine.
[15:22] <joseph> yeah, it should :)
[15:22] <fdoving> do you have the kubuntu-desktop metapackage installed?
[15:22] <Dr_willis> since theres no $KDEDIRS you are using the default - i belive.
[15:23] <joseph> i   kubuntu-desktop                 - Kubuntu desktop system
[15:23] <joseph> fdoving: yes
[15:23] <hydrogen> hey there fdoving
[15:23] <fdoving> hi hydrogen.
[15:23] <hydrogen> havn't seen you in a while!
[15:23] <Radi01> Encryption of hard drive/ How to?
[15:24] <fdoving> hydrogen: busy with kids and all. been having a few days off from work now, finally got some computing time :)
[15:25] <hydrogen> fdoving: :)
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Jack111, i don't see mozilla-mplayer on pastebin list, nor do i see totem-mozilla or xine-plugin
[15:26] <joseph> so if it's not permissions, what could it be?
[15:28] <joseph> i'm going to reinstall kcontrol and see if that makes any difference
[15:28] <risto> is there any channel for zend framework ?
[15:28] <fdoving> joseph: probably doesn't, you can try 'kcmshell screensaver' from Run COmmand, (alt+f2)
[15:28] <fdoving> joseph: or a konsole, would give some output maybe.
[15:28] <joseph> k
[15:29] <joseph> there is no output
[15:29] <BluesKaj> Jack111, make sure you also have libxine1-ffmpeg installed
[15:30] <dm> Hello. I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on a clean hd. How can I import a KMail account from an old ~/.kde/share/... dir?
[15:31] <Jack111> BluesKaj: libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.???
[15:31] <Jack111> BluesKaj: but thanks anyway
[15:31] <joseph> fdoving: in the .xsession-errors file, i do get several lines complaining about not being able to get control of keyboard/mouse (already grabbed)
[15:32] <fdoving> joseph: ah, might have found the problem. did you edit the KMenu?
[15:32] <joseph> i have in the past, yeah
[15:32] <fdoving> joseph: did you move the System menu?
[15:33] <joseph> possibly
[15:33] <fdoving> it needs to be in the root of the Kmenu
[15:33] <fdoving> for screensavers to work.
[15:33] <joseph> it is
[15:34] <genii> fdoving: Interesting, never knew that about System menu/screensaver idiosyncrasy
[15:35] <joseph> the system menu is in the root of the KMenu
[15:38] <Dresken> Just installed NetBeans 6.0 but It didn't appear on the K menu, any idea why?
[15:38] <brightstone1967> any experience on nvidea with kubuntu?
[15:38] <Dr_willis> nvidia works fine on my 3 machines with kubuntu
[15:38] <nosrednaekim> brightstone1967: works fine.
[15:38] <joseph> fdoving: so yeah, the System menu is in the root of the KMenu; that is, it's not nested into any other menu
[15:38] <Dr_willis> 5500, 6800 and 8800 cards
[15:38] <brightstone1967> thanks
[15:39] <rockprincess> brightstone1967: you can add it manually to the KMenu
[15:40] <brightstone1967> thanks rockprincess
[15:42] <joseph> ok, so the list is empty even if i run kcontrol as root
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> joseph: I think youcan manually start kscreensaver with an argument.
[15:43] <joseph> when i run kcontrol as root, i do get this error:  Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[15:43] <rockprincess> joseph: upps my last message that i sent to brightstone1967 was actually meant to you......you can add it manually to the KMenu!
[15:43] <fdoving> joseph: how do you run it as root?
[15:43] <rockprincess> joseph: that's a usual error, from what i see
[15:43] <joseph> fdoving: i did sudo kcontrol from a konsole
[15:43] <fdoving> joseph: sudo is wrong. use kdesudo
[15:43] <joseph> ok
[15:44] <parabol0x> kdesu
[15:44] <fdoving> kdesu is kdesudo in gutsy. but yeah.
[15:44] <joseph> ok, using kdesu kcontrol, i get the list
[15:44] <fdoving> right.
[15:44] <Jucato> fdoving: you're advocating kdesudo now? :D
[15:44] <fdoving> Jucato: well, it's harder to write kdesu.distrib :)
[15:45] <brightstone1967> does any of you have suggestions on sources.list
[15:45] <Jucato> O.o
[15:45] <joseph> ok, so it loads using kdesu but not as normal user
[15:45] <joseph> still.
[15:45] <joseph> heh
[15:45] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[15:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[15:45] <Jucato> brightstone1967: what about it?
[15:46] <brightstone1967> Jucato: to have stable new handy sources / applications of any sort, gamez or office whatever
[15:46] <joseph> what is the executable for the kscreensaver?
[15:46] <The_Machine> anyone have problems burning iso images to DVD with K3b and has fixed the problem?
[15:46] <joseph> rockprincess: what do yo umean add it manually to the kmenu?
[15:46] <Dr_willis> brightstone1967,  thers games and office apps in the defaults. :) you could enable the extra repos.
[15:46] <Dr_willis> !repo
[15:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[15:46] <Jucato> brightstone1967: everything that's supported are in the default sources.list already, including games and lots of other stuff
[15:47] <Jucato> Kubuntu has around 20,000 packages (including libraries and utilities). That's a lot of stuff :)
[15:47] <fdoving> joseph: just to test, try to move ~/.config/menus to ~/.config/menus.bak, then try to run 'kbuildsycoca' and then run 'kcmshell screensavers'
[15:47] <brightstone1967> sometimes you hear about medibuntu and stuff like that...
[15:47] <joseph> fdoving: ok
[15:48] <rockprincess> joseph: you want to add netmeans to your kmenu?
[15:48] <Jucato> !medibuntu
[15:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:48] <fdoving> Jucato: kdesudo in bzr is currently getting better, by the way. most very evil bugs are closed. i still like kdesu better, but that's me. :)
[15:48] <Jucato> fdoving: thank you :)
[15:48] <Jucato> you and Tonio rock :)
[15:49] <fdoving> i haven't done much lately, he's been hacking away the last couple of days.
[15:49] <brightstone1967> thanks for all the information!
[15:50]  * genii sips and contemplates kdesudo su -
[15:50] <brightstone1967> i go from ubuntu to kubuntu right now, so gnome to kde, hope everything goes well
[15:51] <rockprincess> brightstone1967: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[15:52] <brightstone1967> ]rockprincess: no made a backup and install from scratch
[15:52] <rockprincess> brightstone1967: i see
[15:52] <brightstone1967> I really SWITCH
[15:52] <SR-latch> is anyone subscribed to the list?
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> genii: ever tried "sudo bash" XD
[15:53] <The_Machine> maybe it's linux, maybe it's k3b, but these burning problems in kubuntu are ridiculous.
[15:53] <rabby> where to find ltconfig?
[15:53] <genii> nosrednaekim: Not lately :)
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> The_Machine: try another burning program.
[15:54] <SR-latch> hahahha "kubuntu 7.10 is really suks to install"
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> and maybe its the cds themselves
[15:54] <genii> rabby: iFconfig but lowercase F
[15:54] <The_Machine> nosrednaekim, what can burn DVD iso images?
[15:54] <rockprincess> The_Machine: i haven
[15:54] <joseph> fdoving: kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'screensavers'.
[15:54] <brightstone1967> I just use cdrecord (no problem ever!)
[15:54] <rockprincess> The_Machine: i haven't had any problems with k3b lately...what are you problems?
[15:54] <nosrednaekim> The_Machine: gnome baker probably can
[15:54] <rabby> genii: ifconfig is not what i am looking for
[15:55] <fdoving> joseph: drop the tailing s. 'screensaver'
[15:55] <Lynoure> The_Machine: k3b can too...
[15:55] <rabby> genii: ltconfig is it called and seems to play with libtools
[15:55] <joseph> k
[15:55] <The_Machine> rockprincess, they're pretty well documented everywhere..  http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=7851
[15:55] <The_Machine> Lynoure, this problem is regarding k3b.
[15:55] <The_Machine> :P
[15:55] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Oh, I only saw your question.
[15:55] <The_Machine> or 'growisofs'
[15:56] <The_Machine> it seems like it's been a problem for about 3-4 years
[15:56] <joseph> fdoving: ok, the list loads now
[15:56] <Lynoure> The_Machine: what kind of problems are you having?
[15:56] <The_Machine> and nobody has really solved it
[15:56] <The_Machine> Lynoure, read my posts!
[15:56] <The_Machine> :P
[15:56] <The_Machine> i just pasted the problem
[15:56] <genii> rabby: Ah, libtoolconfig
[15:56] <fdoving> joseph: good, then your menu was the problem.
[15:56] <Lynoure> The_Machine: ok, ok...
[15:56] <rockprincess> The_Machine: cheers, i'll have a look....
[15:56] <joseph> fdoving: ok.  so will the menu rebuild after login/logout then?
[15:56] <Dresken> Anyone has any idea? <_<
[15:56] <The_Machine> thanks rockprincess - you, erm..  rock
[15:57] <rabby> genii: where does it hide?
[15:57] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Sorry if I pushed some button accidentally.
[15:57] <The_Machine> rockprincess, just like most people who are reporting the problem, it isn't the hardware.
[15:57] <fdoving> joseph: if you want to, you can restore your previous menu, by moving ~/.config/menus.bak back to ~/.config/menus - otherwise leave it as it is, and you can also remove ~/.config/menus.bak if you don't care about your old menu.
[15:57] <joseph> fdoving: if i leave it as-is, will the menus be rebuilt autmoatically?
[15:57] <The_Machine> works fine under windows, even in a VMware VM, and in knoppix as well
[15:58] <fdoving> joseph: it'll be like it currently is, default kubuntu menu.
[15:58] <rockprincess> The_Machine: don't you think it's a kde issue, rather than a kubuntu issue?
[15:58] <genii> rabby: I know it comes with package libtool ... if you have it someplace on your box do an updated then locate <name> or find <name>
[15:58] <The_Machine> rockprincess, they're so closely related and i'm so inexperienced, it's hard for me to say
[15:58] <joseph> fdoving: ok
[15:58] <genii> *updatedb
[15:58] <fdoving> joseph: your old menu, with your changes, is currently stored in ~/.config/menus.bak
[15:58] <The_Machine> again, there are so many bugs posted around it sounds like there isn't any central place for people to work on it
[15:58] <joseph> fdoving: except i changed .config/ to config.bak/
[15:58] <The_Machine> really frustrating.
[15:59] <The_Machine> BTW, i burn Data/Music CDs just fine w/ the same burner and k3b
[15:59] <The_Machine> it seems to be isolated to DVDs
[15:59] <fdoving> joseph: then it might affect some other apps too, but you will most likely not notice much. compiz, among others.
[15:59] <rabby> genii: i have libtool installed, but anyway the config app is missing though :(
[15:59] <The_Machine> i'm going to try gnomebaker really quick, brb
[15:59] <rabby> can not compile a nice app i need without it :(
[15:59] <joseph> fdoving: ok.  so i can view the list now, but clicking on the lock desktop applet doesn't work, nor does ctrl+alt+L
[16:00] <brightstone1967> in that case i would suggest brasero
[16:00] <genii> rabby: I think debian/ubuntu may have a different name than ltconfig, perhaps ld-something
[16:00] <brightstone1967> don' t have too good experience with gnomebaker
[16:00] <rockprincess> The_Machine: it would be quite useful to report your bug(s) to http://bugs.kde.org/ and to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ in order to resolve the issue....i know it's a pain, but it is indeed useful and it helps the developer working on the problem....
[16:00] <Lynoure> The_Machine: and you can burn DVDs fine with something else than k3b?
[16:00] <fdoving> joseph: you can browse the list of screensavers, enable screensavers and lock doesn't work?
[16:00] <rabby> ldconfig exists, may i use that instead?
[16:01] <joseph> fdoving: correct
[16:01] <joseph> i can test them from kcontrol, though
[16:01] <brightstone1967> Lynourre: #cdrecord
[16:01] <fdoving> joseph: try again with anohter screensaver. Blank Screen, for example.
[16:01] <genii> rabby: Have you installed package build-essential ?
[16:01] <joseph> blank screen is the one enabled
[16:01] <Lynoure> brightstone1967: not ready to join other channels to solve someone's problem, sorry
[16:01] <fdoving> joseph: ok, try Banner then.
[16:02] <The_Machine> Lynoure, again, i'm trying now
[16:02] <joseph> fdoving: still doesn't work
[16:02] <rabby> genii: no, but give me a min and i will do
[16:02] <The_Machine> rockprincess, there are a billion bugs on it already
[16:02] <The_Machine> from years back.
[16:02] <joseph> fdoving: maybe logging out/logging in will fix that?
[16:02] <rockprincess> The_Machine: when did it happen?
[16:02] <fdoving> joseph: try.
[16:02] <rabby> genii: didn't help
[16:02] <joseph> k
[16:03] <The_Machine> gnomebaker just gave me the same error.
[16:03] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Is this on all types on DVD medium? Have you tried on a slower speed setting?
[16:03] <brightstone1967> tail -f /var/log/...
[16:03] <The_Machine> Lynoure, yea, i have tried it on a slwoer speed.
[16:04] <maltaethiron> !mplayer
[16:04] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[16:04] <The_Machine> brb
[16:04] <rockprincess> The_Machine: tried NeroLinux?
[16:05] <genii> rabby: looking into it
[16:05] <The_Machine> rockprincess, in as much as i want to get dvd burning to work, i'm kind of pissed that such a simple function is broken
[16:05] <The_Machine> :)
[16:05] <The_Machine> going to check on something
[16:05] <The_Machine> brb
[16:06] <The_Machine> rockprincess, i'm seeing stuff like this EVERYWHERE:  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-91842.html
[16:07] <The_Machine> that's from the beginning of 2006 - i can't believe it isn't solved.
[16:09] <The_Machine> and more:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/91210
[16:09] <Lynoure> The_Machine: I had that on a laptop once, but unfortunately did not have time to investigate it, as it turned out to burn fine on dvd+rw
[16:09] <rockprincess> The_Machine: i don't understand this...sorry, i burn DVDs on DVD-R, DVD+R but mostly on DVD+RW on a weekly basis!!!!
[16:09] <lovre> hey ppl
[16:10] <rockprincess> The_Machine: which version of k3b are you using?
[16:10] <The_Machine> rockprincess, it isn't k3b
[16:10] <The_Machine> i got the same error with gnomebaker
[16:10] <lovre> im trying to install a game from an iso file. It asks me to insert CD, but i have mounted the iso in /media/cdrom0, why doesnt it recognize this, and did i mount it to the right place?
[16:11] <lovre> any1?
[16:12] <The_Machine> this is bull$&!&
[16:12] <joseph> fdoving: logging out/logging in didn't do anything
[16:12] <Dr_willis> lovre,  with some games ive taken the contents from the cd. copied to a directory, then installed the game FROM that dir. that way no cd changing is needed
[16:12] <joseph> i can test the screen savers from kcontrol, but i can't lock the screen using the lock desktop applet or by ctrl+alt+L
[16:13] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  yep. from what ive read on the burning issue is that it seems to be some sort of kernel issues (or so the threads sort of imply, but they are still troubbleshooting it) I have 1 out of 3 machines with the provblem also.
[16:13] <genii> rabby: Aaah, libtool does not come anymore with ltconfig and has been deprecated now in Debian/ubuntu. You may want package autotools-dev and possibly also autoconf
[16:13] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, yeah you're right.
[16:13] <Lynoure> The_Machine: and you already have dvd+rw-tools installed?
[16:13] <genii> Work emergency, flood.
[16:14] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, it's just ridiculous that i can have compiz working the way it does but I can't burn a DVD
[16:14] <rockprincess> The_Machine: which kernel version are you using?
[16:14] <The_Machine> and that it works fine in knoppix and windows
[16:14] <The_Machine> and works in windows EVEN IN A Virtual Machine!!
[16:14] <The_Machine> Ugh!  Frustrating!
[16:14] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  i rember ages ago when just getting a cd burner going was a kernel recompile and a week of reading...
[16:14] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, heh. The true state of "linux on the desktop" imho
[16:15] <Dr_willis> its possible the switch to the libata  has caused other issues..
[16:15] <joseph> fdoving: do you have any other ideas by chance?
[16:15] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  you dont want to get me started on my daily 'windows on the desktop' issues. :)
[16:15] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, ah, really?
[16:15]  * The_Machine never has any
[16:15] <The_Machine> and i'm not any silly fan boy
[16:15] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah right
[16:15] <lovre> Dr_willis: i downloaded the game as iso, and an install script. Now the script is searching for the CD-ROM wich i dont have, and i mount the iso but it doesnt find it. Is there any place that i should mount iso file, so the script can find it
[16:15]  * The_Machine has been using linux for his workstation for 3 years..  and Windows in VMs this whole time
[16:15] <Dr_willis> Today. kept getting a popup - about how a service couldent post a message.. so i looked at it.. closed it.. then 2 min later it poped up again..  sigh.
[16:16] <joseph> what's the actual executable for the kscreensavers?
[16:16] <The_Machine> rockprincess, i'm checking, one sec
[16:16] <Dr_willis> lovre,  its possible the installer  has options as to where to look for the cd.
[16:16] <Dr_willis> lovre,  or perhaps  the script has some lines you can edit to set the path.
[16:16] <lovre> Dr_willis: how can i find out what this is? I searcher the script, but didnt find anything, but its big 6Mb, so maybe i didnt look in right place
[16:17] <The_Machine> rockprincess, 2.6.22-14-generic
[16:17] <Dr_willis> lovre,  normally such things would be seyt at the begining.   What game is this anyway?
[16:17] <rockprincess> The_Machine: same kernel version that I'm using
[16:18] <lovre> Dr_willis: Unreal Tournament (the old one from 99)
[16:18] <The_Machine> Lynoure, yes, RE:  <Lynoure> The_Machine: and you already have dvd+rw-tools installed?
[16:18] <Dr_willis> lovre,  i recall it having some options, or a setting. You could just mount the iso to /media/cdrom or /mnt/cdrom whever its looking
[16:18] <The_Machine> rockprincess, basically, there is gong to be no answer
[16:19] <Dr_willis> lovre,  i recall on one of those games that came on 3 cd's i copied all the cd's to one dir.
[16:19] <The_Machine> so many bugs submitted, nobody working on it any more
[16:19] <Lynoure> The_Machine: and how many different disks you have tried with?
[16:19] <The_Machine> Lynoure, about 20.
[16:19] <The_Machine> not 20 different brands though.
[16:19] <rabby> genii, i just removed libtool again and installed autoconf. autoconf-dev is there already. but ltconfig isn't there though and the ./configure script i have again tells me, it needs ltconfig :(
[16:20] <Dr_willis> I can burn dvd's on my machine. but then they dont want to verify.. so im not sure if they are good or bad..  so i play it safe and dont use that machine to burn disks any more. :) its possivble the drive IS bad..
[16:20] <Dr_willis> well bbl.
[16:20] <The_Machine> Lynoure, also, it works fine in Windows :P
[16:20] <The_Machine> so not likely the brand of the disc, or the hardware
[16:21] <genii> rabby: I am back for a second to tell you that debian no longer uses ltconfig. I have an emergency here at work which i need to go remedy and will not be around for a while. You will need to find help from another for the time being
[16:22] <Dr_willis> it would be an interesting test to try out a external Usb burner - and see if it has the exact same issues.
[16:22] <adam_> has anyone ever had or knows how to fix it when kdesktop displays "/" instead of "~/Desktop"?
[16:22] <genii> So no confusion logging out for now
[16:22] <The_Machine> Dr_willis, forums show that external and internal drives are affected.
[16:22] <Dr_willis> The_Machine,  interesting.
[16:22] <The_Machine> yeah, crappy :/
[16:22] <Dr_willis> But is that for everyone.. or just some.
[16:22] <The_Machine> looks to be 'some'
[16:22] <Lynoure> The_Machine: tried types, too? dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd-rw, dvd+rw?
[16:22] <The_Machine> there seems to be no constants with these problems!
[16:22] <Dr_willis> I just built me an external USB dvd burner over the weekend. to keep me from cawling under the desk. Heh.
[16:23] <Dr_willis> I need to testit on the problem box.
[16:23] <Paddy_EIRE> The_Machine: are you a programmer?
[16:23] <The_Machine> Lynoure, just DVD+R..  again, it works fine in windows and knoppix in the SAME box
[16:23] <The_Machine> Paddy_EIRE, i wish
[16:23] <The_Machine> :)
[16:23] <Paddy_EIRE> The_Machine: then how do you know there is no constants with those problems
[16:23] <Paddy_EIRE> kinda presumptious
[16:23] <The_Machine> Paddy_EIRE, because i've been reading the forums regarding it?
[16:23] <The_Machine> get outta here.
[16:24] <The_Machine> you just entered the conversation, speaking of presumptious.
[16:24] <Paddy_EIRE> meh... thats hardly a deffinite indication
[16:24] <Dr_willis> bbl
[16:24] <The_Machine> troll
[16:24] <Paddy_EIRE> The_Machine: no I've been listening
[16:24] <Paddy_EIRE> hardly a troll either
[16:24] <adam_> can anyone help me make kdesktop display ~/Desktop instead of / , i want my icons on my desktop not bin, usr, etc?
[16:24] <The_Machine> and you've watched the forums i've been posting?
[16:24] <The_Machine> happens on fedora/gentoo across different media/programs/kernels
[16:24] <Radi01> Any one try encrypting the hard drive.
[16:24] <The_Machine> for about 4 years
[16:24] <Paddy_EIRE> hey Lynoure
[16:25] <bazhang> I once had an issue with using dvd +rw instead of dvd -rw without being aware of it
[16:25] <Lynoure> The_Machine: Try a diffent type, just for fun, if you have a chance.
[16:25] <The_Machine> Lynoure, i will when i get one )
[16:26] <Radi01> Guess not.
[16:27] <Radi01> D`oh!
[16:27] <bazhang> Radi01: you might have to wait for more than one minute for an answer :}
[16:27] <[ifr0g]> !compiz-fusion
[16:27] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:27] <Lynoure> Radi01: using question marks also helps the question to be noticed. :)
[16:27] <yakuzi> hi all
[16:27] <yakuzi> i've a strange "problem"
[16:28] <bazhang> hi yakuzi
[16:28] <Lynoure> Radi01: Do you want/need full disk encryption, or just a part?
[16:28] <Radi01> The whole drive/ Cant find any programs to do just that.
[16:28] <yakuzi> in settings i set my selected items background to red, but adept refuses to use it and still uses the default blue (same with scrollbars etc) anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[16:29] <Lynoure> The_Machine: I trust that you have tried making the image manually with mkisofs already? It works in some cases where growisofs is throwing a fit.
[16:29] <adam_> yakuzi: adept is run as run, a different user with different settings, run kdesu kcontrol and changes the colours there
[16:29] <adam_> run as root*
[16:30] <lg188> hello
[16:30] <Lynoure> Radi01: that's because for whole drive, if the one your root filesystem is on, it cannot be a user space program...
[16:31] <jaro> hi there. I've tried to update to gutsy with adept_updater tool but there was some serious problem which caused this tool to hang... I was not able to re-run it again so i proceeded manually (dpkg --configure -a && apt-get dist-upgrade)
[16:31] <The_Machine> Lynoure, what do you mean make it amnually?
[16:31] <The_Machine> i already have an image and i'm trying to burn it.
[16:31] <lg188> howto  typ the '™' sing in kubuntu ?
[16:31] <The_Machine> it happens with DVD video as well
[16:32] <Radi01> I see/ The install asks to do so, only upon installation. I was to late I guess.
[16:32] <jaro> almost everything works fine now, but I have serious problem with graphics - having i945 intel (nc2400 notebook) and X works really slow. With visible refreshing and very bad visual responses. Also dual head works no more.
[16:32] <Radi01> Thanks 4 trying anyway.
[16:32] <Lynoure> The_Machine: mkisofs -o myimage.iso /home/whoknows/imagestuff    = manually
[16:32] <joseph> ok, so i can view the list of screensavers, but for some reason, i can't RUN the screensaver
[16:32] <mich> eyy
[16:32] <jaro> does anyone have some suggestion of what should I try?
[16:32] <Lynoure> Radi01: not too late. Patience, dude
[16:33] <adam_> can anyone help me make kdesktop display ~/Desktop instead of / , i want my icons on my desktop not bin, usr, etc?
[16:33] <jaro> might this be due to the use of non-restricted drivers which have poor performance?
[16:33] <The_Machine> brb
[16:33] <ubuntu__> hello
[16:34] <jaro> or maybe another question - how can i generate some "default" xorg.conf?
[16:34] <ubuntu__> I nead a suport to kubuntu in spanish
[16:34] <bazhang> !es
[16:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:34] <ubuntu__> gracias
[16:35] <yakuzi> thanks adam_ hat solved it
[16:35] <joseph> does anyone know the executable that is supposed to be run when 'lock desktop' applet is clicked?
[16:35] <sub[t]rnl> jaro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:36] <joseph> i'm grateful because i can now load the screen saver list, but for some reason, i can't get them to run!
[16:36] <SR-latch> guys any idea for a good movie player? i have problem with subtitles + kaffeine
[16:36] <yakuzi> mplayer works fine for me
[16:36] <Lynoure> Radi01: http://www.sdc.org/~leila/usb-dongle/readme.html is one good place to start, and aimed an people who already have a running system
[16:37] <ardchoille> SR-latch: mplayer and xine are both good.
[16:37] <Daisuke_Ido> SR-latch: VLC.
[16:37] <ardchoille> SR-latch: Do you need closed captions as well? mplayer and xine are the only ones which support closed captions
[16:38] <adam_> SR-latch: go to settings > Xine engine settings > subtitles and change some settings, i used to have problems with subtitles but that completely fixed it for me
[16:38] <anto> Can somone help me with "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_add_idle" ?
[16:38] <anto> i get that error for any gtk application
[16:40] <adam_> can no body help me with my kdesktop woes?
[16:41] <joseph> adam_: you just have to be patient
[16:41] <lg188> Idk but somebody is no one helping ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> joseph, how did you set up the scrnsaver ?
[16:42] <Lynoure> adam_: how did you get to that bind?
[16:43] <joseph> BluesKaj: ok, i got it to work finally.  one interesting thing, though, is that if i run kdesktop_lock (the executable) as root, the password box is nicer-looking than the password box (basic) that the normal user gets
[16:43] <adam_> Lynoure: i just started my computer today and when kdesktop loaded it was the / directory (e.g bin, etc, usr, media) instead of ~/Desktop
[16:44] <joseph> i wonder how i can get that shiny-looking password box instead?
[16:44] <Lynoure> adam_: weird, it should not happen on its own.
[16:45] <adam_> Lynoure: i ran kdesktop in a teminal and it says "cp: cannot create regular file `//.directory': Permission denied"
[16:45] <adam_> Lynoure: i checked .directory in ~/desktop and its writable to my user
[16:46] <Lynoure> adam_: ~/desktop or ~/Desktop ?
[16:46] <Lynoure> adam_: do you see the / path anywhere in  ~/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc ?
[16:47] <adam_> Lynoure: ~/Desktop
[16:48] <Lynoure> adam_: Check the contents of the file above, then.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> hmm intersting joseph , I'm the only user so i don't bother locking anything, so I don't use the pw to unlock the scrnsaver or the the desktop. I use the photo album slideshow as my screensaver.
[16:49] <lg188> ™ ? how to type on Linux ????
[16:49] <Lynoure> lg188: type as in type commands, or write text files?
[16:49] <anto> "/usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" any idea on what package i need to get installed?
[16:50] <joseph> BluesKaj: it has to do with themes, incidentally
[16:50] <joseph> but now i'm happy - everything works!
[16:50] <adam_> Lynoure: I can't find anything that points kdesktop where my desktop is in that file :P
[16:50] <Lynoure> lg188: for former, start   konsole  from the K-menu -> System -> konsole
[16:50] <SR-latch> whoo hooo!! subs working now under vlc!!
[16:50] <SR-latch> thanks guys!!
[16:50] <lg188> Lynoure: for a text file
[16:51] <BluesKaj> yeah joseph, the default kde theme is fine for my eyes, altho I upped the contrast somewhat
[16:52] <Lynoure> adam_: try checking on  System Settings -> About me   too
[16:52] <Lynoure> adam_: the path is normally set under  Paths  there
[16:52] <Lynoure> lg188: then K-menu -> Utilities -> Kate
[16:53] <joseph> BluesKaj: k
[16:53] <adam_> Lynoure: damn your right, in paths my desktop path is /, why'd it change itself *scratches head* thanks
[16:54] <Dresken> Again, I've just installed NetBeans 6.0 but nothing appeared on the K menu, any has any idea why?
[16:54] <Lynoure> adam_: that's the weird bit.
[16:55] <Lynoure> adam_: If it does it again, you through probably go through your system, just in case someone bad got into it.
[16:55] <Lynoure> adam_: I would already, but I'm not the role model, necessarily =)
[16:56] <adam_> Lynoure: ah noes, i just restarted kdesktop after setting the desktop path right and kdesktop still shows the contents of / :(
[16:56] <Lynoure> adam_: but a quick run of chkrootkit will not hurt (though not necessarily help, either)
[16:57] <Lynoure> adam_: something else is setting your path. First check what's in .kde/Autostart
[16:58] <adam_> Lynoure: nope just my own scripts which i haven't touched for months
[16:59] <Lynoure> adam_: I'll need to go, but please msg me if you find out the cause, or need help digging into it some other day. Might help to think about whether you installed anything new, or did something else radical around when it started
[16:59] <adam_> Lynoure: ok thanks very much
[17:00] <Lynoure> adam_: good luck, meanwhile.
[17:03] <venik> I am trying to compy an image (jpg in GIMP) to a message in Thunderbird.  I use the rectangle select tool, select the image, EDIT/COPY but then there seems to be nothing in the clipboard.  What am I doing wrong?
[17:05] <lg188> Lynoure: kate ? i know how to use it but not how to type ™
[17:09] <lg188> venik: that is the question that needs an answer
[17:10] <venik> What am I doing wrong?  Or: How do I copy an image from GIMP and paste it into a Thunderbird message?
[17:10] <lg188> how to type ™
[17:12] <lg188> euhm i think .... insert ->picture->from file ( based on win offfice not working on my dapper)
[17:14] <ardchoille> lg188: What are you trying to type? What I see you typing for that character is gibberish. It might help us to know what you are trying to type
[17:15] <lg188> the TM mark
[17:15] <Dr_willis>  ™ ™ ™ ™ ™ ™ ™
[17:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> :)™
[17:16] <lg188> how to on Linux
[17:16] <lg188> i dont use it at the moment
[17:16] <Dr_willis> No idea. :)  There is that character selecter tool i recall under kde and gnome for a lot of the odd ball characters.
[17:16] <ardchoille> kcharselect
[17:16] <venik> It looks as if there is no way to format text in superscript in Kate, but if there is an ascii character to print TM, you might try that
[17:18] <lg188> ty for support
[17:18] <ardchoille> I don't see the TM mark in kcharselect
[17:19] <lg188> i wil look for a while i will come back if i dot find it and other wise to say thanx
[17:20] <lg188> i fdnt have that tool kcharselect  ...
[17:20] <lg188> don't*
[17:23] <lg188> plug-in from Kate? Of a programme that  u can start without Kate
[17:25] <ardchoille> lg188: iirc, it is part of the kdeutils package
[17:25] <lg188> ?
[17:25] <lg188> install apart ?
[17:25] <lg188> i don not have inet on it
[17:26] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get install kdeutils
[17:27] <Jucato> er he doesn't need to install all that :P
[17:27] <ardchoille> actually, it's the kcharselect package.. kdeutils is a met-package
[17:27] <lg188> oooh ****
[17:27] <lg188> ????????
[17:27] <ardchoille> Jucato: Just noticed that
[17:27] <ardchoille> I did dpkg -L too later
[17:28] <lg188> I lose the way of lightness by a blackout
[17:29] <lg188> is it on my dapper or not ??? or do  i have to install something ???
[17:29] <karyn> anybody do drugs?
[17:30] <Dr_willis> karyn,  does the pills to lower my Cholesteral count?
[17:30] <ardchoille> !info kcharselect dapper
[17:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[17:30] <ubotu> kcharselect: character selector for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 69 kB, installed size 332 kB
[17:31] <ardchoille> lg188: enable the universe repo and do: sudo apt-get install kcharselect
[17:31] <lg188> i don't hav web on it
[17:31] <ardchoille> lg188: Would you be more comfortable in a channel that speaks your native language?
[17:32] <lg188> ardchoille:  they do noting i really mean that
[17:32] <ardchoille> :(
[17:33] <ardchoille> lg188: I don't understand what you mean by "i don't hav web on it"
[17:33] <TimS> Is there a replacement for Katapult, gonme seems to have hundreds of launch boxes but KDE doesnt have any good ones
[17:33] <lg188> i don not have internet on my dapper
[17:33] <ardchoille> TimS: alt+f2 ?
[17:34] <JackWinter> do i have to do something special to get the agp bus detected for my matrox g-400 card?  dmesg only contains this line "Linux agpgart interface v0.102 (c) Dave Jones", no other line pertaining to agpgart.  loading the matrox driver produces "[drm:mga_do_agp_dma_bootstrap] *ERROR* Unable to acquire AGP: -19" ??
[17:34] <TimS> A GUI one like katapult is, that runs more commands
[17:35] <ardchoille> TimS: You can try:  apt-cache search launcher
[17:35] <JackWinter> if this is not the right place, any link or pointer would be very much appreciated, since i'm in over my head again! ;-)
[17:36] <ardchoille> JackWinter: The only thing I can suggest is the troubleshooting sections of the video pages
[17:36] <ardchoille> !video
[17:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[17:36] <JackWinter> thanks ardchoille!
[17:36] <ardchoille> yw
[17:38] <anto> Whats the command to find out the folder size?
[17:39] <lg188> bey need to go
[17:39] <pag> anto, du -sch directory
[17:41] <JackWinter> well the video links didn't yield anything on agp.  i take it then that this is a rare problem, something to do with my hardware.  not something that every ubuntu user has to do to get agp working..?
[17:41] <ardchoille> JackWinter: tbh, this is the first I've seen about that issue.
[17:42] <JackWinter> hmm.  i got 3d accell working pretty good, but 2d performance is horrible, thus my quest to get agp working..;-)
[17:43] <JackWinter> is #xorg the only support channel for video, or are there any others ?
[17:43] <ardchoille> JackWinter: Not sure, but ##linux may be of help
[17:44] <JackWinter> ok, i'll try that.  thanks again!
[17:46] <slav3_kitten> lest try this again today
[17:47] <slav3_kitten> anyone got any idea why scons wont find my python2.4-dev install?
[17:47] <slav3_kitten> under dapper drake
[17:47] <ogzy> hi, after changing the theme with theme manager my graphics got slower, file manager started to show the icons slower, chat windows are refsreshing slower, mainly the refresh is getting slower, i had my restricted driever installed, what can be the problem
[17:49] <joseph> !youtube
[17:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about youtube - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:49] <joseph> !flash
[17:49] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[17:49] <sub[t]rnl> ogzy: check "top" to see if any processes are taking up a large amount of mem or cpu
[17:50] <unix_infidel> anyone here applied for a position at google?
[17:50] <unix_infidel> before.
[17:51] <rickey> dose anyone here know ,what kind of linux program i should rumn , in order for me to run a windows base chat program in linux
[17:51] <slav3_kitten> wine
[17:51] <slav3_kitten> win4lin
[17:51] <slav3_kitten> few others i cant rembr
[17:52] <ogzy> sub[t]rnl: i checked, sometimes Xgl using 15% of the CPU thats all, there is not ant higher value at the top
[17:52] <Dr_willis> vmware, cedega, virtualbox
[17:52] <Dr_willis> depends on the program and what you are doing. as to what one to use.
[17:52] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis
[17:52] <rickey> i want to rum paltalk on kubuntu710
[17:53] <slav3_kitten> i hear win4lin actually suports programs that need access to hardware well
[17:53] <BluesKaj> rickey, you can run mirc on wine in linux if that's what you mean , but the graphics are a bit strange
[17:53] <Dr_willis> mIRC is a bit strange. :)
[17:53] <Dr_willis> mIRC is a bit very strange. :)
[17:53] <Minataku> Every time I tried to run mIRC in WINE it failed, but it was a while ago
[17:53] <BluesKaj> hehe
[17:53] <rickey> what is mirc
[17:53] <Minataku> !wine | rickey
[17:53] <ubotu> rickey: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[17:53] <Dr_willis> a IRC client for windows.
[17:53] <slav3_kitten> i like XChat for win an lin
[17:53] <BluesKaj> !mirc
[17:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mirc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:54] <Dr_willis> xchat is aviliable for windows. :)
[17:54] <Minataku> I use XChat myself
[17:54] <BluesKaj> paltalk, whew ppl still use that ?
[17:54] <slav3_kitten> brb i'm guna puke again
[17:54] <Minataku> ComicChat
[17:54] <Minataku> XD
[17:54] <joseph> when i try to play youtube clips, i get part of the player, but not the whole thing and the clips don't run.
[17:55] <joseph> i can play flash elsewhere, however
[17:55] <BluesKaj> xchat is ok , but prefer konversation
[17:55] <slav3_kitten> joseph i run flash under konquere on dapper just fine
[17:55] <slav3_kitten> including youtube
[17:55] <Dr_willis> # appears as Bill Gates
[17:55] <BluesKaj> joseph, flashplugi-nonfree
[17:56] <BluesKaj> joseph, flashplugin-nonfree
[17:56] <Jucato> Dr_willis: Xchat is shareware on Windows
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  there are free versions. :)
[17:56] <Jucato> (trialware)
[17:56] <slav3_kitten> xchat2 is frrreware on windows
[17:56] <Jucato> oh that's good :)
[17:56] <BluesKaj> xchat2 is free on windows
[17:56] <joseph> BluesKaj: it's installed
[17:56] <Dr_willis> thers like 5 different versions last i checked.
[17:56] <slav3_kitten> yup
[17:56] <Dr_willis> some had a few bugglets also.
[17:56] <slav3_kitten> all pretty damn good too
[17:56] <orlandoj> hi all. How can i test the microfone ?
[17:56] <slav3_kitten> oh word of the wise
[17:57] <Dr_willis> Im using xming/xdmcp and my linux box to run linux xchat however. :P
[17:57] <slav3_kitten> hydrodocon on an empty stomach makes you puke
[17:57] <BluesKaj> joseph, which browser?
[17:57] <boguh> is there a way that konsole handles urls?
[17:57] <Dr_willis> slav3_kitten,  thats just what i went and got for my wife.
[17:57] <joseph> BluesKaj: konqueror
[17:57] <Dr_willis> bbl
[17:57] <slav3_kitten> tell her to make sure she eats somethign first
[17:57] <BluesKaj> hangon joseph. I'll check my konq media settings
[17:57] <joseph> k
[17:58] <joseph> check what order you have the directories for plugins, too?
[18:00] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: have you tested Ruby?
[18:00] <sigma> i can't seem to get my compiz cube desktop running - i have 4 desktops enabled and have enabled the cube desktop and rotate cube plugins, what set of keys must i press to activate the cube?
[18:00] <BluesKaj> joseph, $HOME.mozilla/plugins, $Home Netscape/plugins are the first2 in the list
[18:00] <joseph> k
[18:00] <trappist> sigma: control-alt-drag is one way to rotate the cube
[18:01] <joseph> $HOME/.netscape/plugins ?
[18:01] <sigma> trappist: how do i make the cube appear on my desktop in the first place?
[18:02] <trappist> sigma: start compiz successfully with the desktop cube and rotate cube plugins enabled.  your desktop should look normal until you rotate the cube.
[18:02] <joseph> BluesKaj: it works fine in firefox, but not in konqueror
[18:03] <BluesKaj> $HOME/.netscape/plugins
[18:03] <joseph> yeah, i don't have a ~/.netscape directory
[18:03] <patricio> after installing gutsy gibbon on my machine where I also have a windowsXP copy, after I try to get to windows using grub, I receive: Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll. Please reinstall a copy of the above file
[18:03] <trappist> patricio: that sounds like a windows question
[18:03] <sigma> trappist: compiz is running with the plugins enabled. all i see is a normal desktop, no cube? what key combination must i press to see the cube?
[18:04] <patricio> trappist, but I can't even get into windows, can I
[18:04] <joseph> BluesKaj: i think it's running some other player, though because when i purge flashplugin-nonfree, the behavior doesn't change
[18:04] <trappist> sigma: told ya.  how do you know compiz is running?
[18:04] <Ben_Cs> hello
[18:04] <BluesKaj> $HOME/.mozilla/plugins is first in the list , joseph
[18:04] <Minataku> patricio: Uh oh, that's not a good message to get
[18:04] <Ben_Cs> i changed partition table from windows and now grub has error 22. how can i rewrite grub from livecd?
[18:04] <Minataku> You may very well have to reinstall Windows
[18:04] <patricio> Minataku: uhm :(
[18:04] <sourcemaker> is there any brokerage software available for kunutu? (Monitoring stocks)
[18:05] <Minataku> The file it's referencing is absolutely critical to Windows
[18:05] <trappist> Ben_Cs: I did this just the other night.  mount your root (with /boot) fs somewhere on the livecd.  mount --bind /proc, /sys and /dev into the mounted fs.  chroot to the fs.  run grub-install.
[18:05] <sigma> fuim,.
[18:05] <Minataku> It will NOT operate without it at all
[18:05] <Ben_Cs> if i do fixmbr from windows cd i can load windows but i want to be able to load kubuntu too
[18:05] <BluesKaj> joseph, you may want to check your java settings too
[18:05] <joseph> BluesKaj: in what way?
[18:06] <rickey> what dose this mean >>>>Open the terminal, and cd into the directory where the .EXE is located.
[18:06] <Minataku> !terminal | rickey
[18:06] <ubotu> rickey: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:06] <rickey> what is cd
[18:06] <Ben_Cs> ok thanks
[18:06] <Minataku> rickey: Please go to the link above, and read the guide.
[18:06] <trappist> rickey: cd is change directory.  it's a console command.
[18:06] <rickey> ok thank
[18:07] <sigma> trappist: ok i dragged it but theres no cube, just two desktops on the back of each other, im using a Nvidia 6600GT card if it helps
[18:07] <BluesKaj> joseph, sudo update-alternatives --config java ...I'm running /usr/lib/jvm/ia32-java-6-sun/jre/bin/java which I chose cuz it helps render some sites like Gmail more "normally"
[18:08] <trappist> sigma: ah, ok.  in sscm, go to general settings, find the 'horizontal virtual size' setting, and increase it to 4 to make it a cube.
[18:08] <trappist> sigma: ccsm, that is
[18:08] <patricio> help, I need my win-partition
[18:09] <patricio> damn! If I reinstall winXP it rewrites the MBR, I know that s***!
[18:09] <BluesKaj> patricio, can you see it in system settings/advanced/disk&file info ?
[18:09] <patricio> BluesKaj: sec
[18:10] <patricio> BluesKaj: no :I
[18:10] <patricio> ah wait
[18:10] <patricio> BluesKaj: yes, it must be the ntfs one: hda3
[18:10] <Minataku> patricio: The data is (hopefully) still intact
[18:11] <trappist> except hal.dll :p
[18:11] <Minataku> So with Linux's NTFS support, you can recover any data
[18:11] <joseph> BluesKaj: i don't have the choice for ia32-java-6-sun
[18:11] <Minataku> But you're 99.9% likely going to have to reinstall Windows
[18:11] <Minataku> Or not, that's my suggestion, let it fester
[18:11] <BluesKaj> usually patricio , the ntfs partition is the first one hda
[18:11] <Minataku> But that's just me
[18:11] <Minataku> lol
[18:11] <sigma> trappist: thanks a mill - it worked
[18:11] <trappist> np
[18:12] <patricio> BluesKaj: Minataku: Yes I think I shifted it to hda3
[18:12] <t4m1n0> Why I can't load visualizations in amarok ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46989/   I use ubuntu
[18:12] <patricio> but it says activated, so I should have mount acess
[18:12] <BluesKaj> patricio, so it doesn't show up in the grub menu ?
[18:12] <trappist> t4m1n0: did you explore the possibilities listed in the error output?
[18:13] <Jucato> t4m1n0: like it says, libvisual isn't installed. please install it
[18:13] <patricio> BluesKaj: it does show up!
[18:13] <t4m1n0> Jucato, it is installed
[18:13] <patricio> BluesKaj: but when chosing it, the fault I wrote above appears
[18:13] <Jucato> t4m1n0: libvisual plugins?
[18:14] <t4m1n0> Jucato, no plugins aren't
[18:14] <joseph> heh, now i can't install flashplugin-nonfree because of some md5sum error
[18:14] <sigma> trappist: is there any danger in using kwin with compiz? i hate the themes that emerald has
[18:14] <Jucato> (you can't use kwin with compiz...)
[18:15] <trappist> t4m1n0: this is why god invented error messages.  the two possible causes for your failure were right there in the error message.
[18:15] <Jucato> yo can use KDE w/ compiz... but not kwin w/ compiz...
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> sigma: what you want is "compiz-kde"
[18:15] <Dr_willis> there is the kde themes thang for compiz. but i forget the package name.
[18:16] <venik> does anyone know how to enter Greek characters in Kile WITHOUT typing $\alpha, \beta, \gamma$  ?
[18:16] <Dr_willis> You can use emerald themes, the gtk themes, or the kwin themes.  wasent there another?
[18:16] <trappist> sigma: I think the compiz-kde package contains a window decorator called kde-window-decorator
[18:16] <t4m1n0> trappist, I've installed  libvisual-0.4-plugins but still no visuals..
[18:16] <trappist> t4m1n0: have you restarted amarok?
[18:16] <t4m1n0> trappist, no
[18:16] <patricio> BluesKaj: I went to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320252 but the F8 trick in GRUB did of course not work
[18:16] <t4m1n0> trappist, I guess I don't understand thos whole thing
[18:17] <sigma> nosrednaekim: ya installed that as well - is that what allows kwin to be used with compiz? im using kwin with compiz now, just want to know if there is any danger in doing so as all the online docs refer to emerald
[18:17] <trappist> t4m1n0: in some apps stuff like that might work without restarting, but amarok probably loads all that stuff at runtime
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> sigma: no, there is no danger.
[18:17] <rickey> if i was to cd to desktop fom termal ,what would it look like?
[18:17] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org has some info on the 3 theme methods
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> sigma: just run "kde-window-decorator --replace&" from a run dialog
[18:18] <t4m1n0> is there any news about ati opening drivers ?
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> t4m1n0: yeah, Novell just released a beta driver
[18:18] <toscalix> hi, there is a free translation to spanish of J. Riddell announcement about Kubuntu session on december 15th here: http://agustin.ejerciciosresueltos.com/ , if somebody knows any spanish developer that wants to attend
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> toscalix: #kubuntu-devel
[18:19] <toscalix> ups sorry
[18:19] <trappist> rickey: cd ~/Desktop
[18:19] <t4m1n0> nosrednaekim, is there any repo for debian/ubuntu ?
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> t4m1n0: not that I know of, but you can do it from source
[18:20] <BluesKaj> patricio, on the off chance you grub menu is lacking something pastebin it so we can have a gander at it : alt+F2 ,kdesu kate /root/boot/grub
[18:20] <t4m1n0> nosrednaekim, can u update me with some links please ?
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> t4m1n0: unfortunately not
[18:21] <BluesKaj> patricio, sorry , kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:22] <joseph> so is there a fix for installing flashplugin-nonfree? it says there is a md5sum mismatch and that it won't install it.
[18:22] <mrdigital> so whats some cool apps i should install?
[18:23] <trappist> joseph: sounds like the repo you're getting it from is broked
[18:23] <patricio> BluesKaj: the paste is on: http://pastebin.com/m7f0814ba
[18:23] <BluesKaj> what is your regular flashplayer version, joseph ?
[18:23] <trappist> joseph: also there's a newer version available from adobe.com, with a lot of very nice new features
[18:24] <patricio> BluesKaj: the entry seems fine to me, grub starts at hd0,0 for hda1 and hd0,2 should be hda3
[18:24] <joseph> BluesKaj: in about:plugins in firefox, it's saying the version is Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115
[18:24] <damien_> helo
[18:25] <mrdigital> should i install beryl?
[18:25] <joseph> trappist: i don't really care about new features, i just want it to work in konqueror
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> mrdigital: no, use compiz-fusion
[18:25] <joseph> BluesKaj: it's saying the same version in about:plugins in konqueror, too
[18:26] <joseph> so youtube works in firefox, but not in konqueror
[18:26] <BluesKaj> yeah patricio you grub menu.lst looks ok
[18:27] <Jucato> joseph: what version of flash?
[18:27] <joseph> Jucato: 9.0 r115
[18:28] <BluesKaj> joseph, when i had that trouble with konq I cleared all the plugins out and redid the scan for plugins ...and chose default
[18:28] <Radi01> Just tried youtube in konq/ works fine.
[18:28] <Jucato> joseph: yeah it doesn't work yet in Konqueor
[18:28] <Jucato> Konqueror
[18:30] <sigma> why does the file search feature in konqueror not work?
[18:30] <Radi01> Mine works just fine.
[18:30] <Radi01> youtube in konq.
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> sigma: I think thats a filter plugin
[18:30] <BluesKaj> Radi01, it depends on your plugins setup ...it's a bit finicky on some pcs
[18:30] <Radi01> ah ok
[18:30] <joseph> Jucato: ok, so what version do i need to get to work in konqueror?
[18:31] <joseph> BluesKaj: so you reverted your konqueror defaults then?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> youtube is ok on konq too here
[18:31] <joseph> BluesKaj: and what do you mean by cleared all the plugins out?
[18:31] <sigma> nosrednaekim: what you mean?
[18:31] <joseph> BluesKaj: what version of flash are you using on that?
[18:31] <Jucato> joseph: 9.0.64 I think
[18:31] <Radi01> Is there a plugin like (no script) for konq?
[18:31] <joseph> Jucato: so how do i get that?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> joseph, delete them from konq and do a scan for plugins
[18:32] <tuxianer> hi can somebody tell me how i can remove all kde komponets from my kubuntu ?
[18:32] <Jucato> !info flushplugin-nonfree
[18:32] <ubotu> Package flushplugin-nonfree does not exist in gutsy
[18:32] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[18:32] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:32] <Jucato> (stupid typo)
[18:32] <stdin> flush :p
[18:32] <sigma> tuxianer: why would you want to do that?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> tuxianer, uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[18:32] <sigma> does anyone know why the search feature in konqueror does not work?
[18:32] <joseph> Jucato: ok, so that says 9.0.48.0.2
[18:33] <Jucato> joseph: yeah. I think that should work better
[18:33] <Dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package. i dident think removeing it would remove much of anything.
[18:33] <tuxianer> sigma: i have a very slow computer and i want to install icewm as a window manager but i want to save space of my hard drive
[18:33] <Jucato> not really sure about the 9.0. 64 btw
[18:33] <joseph> Jucato: so where do i download it?
[18:33] <tuxianer> so i want to remove kde and install only the light and small compontens
[18:33] <Dr_willis> KDE has a lot of nioce tools that will work with icewm.
[18:33] <Jucato> joseph: install it with apt-get or Adept Manager
[18:33] <sigma> tuxianer: why not just use xubuntu?
[18:33] <Dr_willis> I recall a web site that listed the proper way to uninstall kde, but i forget the url.
[18:34] <joseph> Jucato: if i tell apt-get to install flashplugin-nonfree i get that md5sum mismatch error
[18:34] <Dr_willis> !kdelite
[18:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelite - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:34] <Dr_willis> !kdelight
[18:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelight - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:34] <patricio> BluesKaj: could I access my windows-partition using wine?
[18:34] <tuxianer> it takes a long time to install it
[18:34] <tuxianer> a VERY VERY long time
[18:34] <BluesKaj> tuxianer, but then you have to install a desktop like fluxbox or xfce ,if you want one
[18:34] <Dr_willis> just install icewm, or jwm, or openbox, and  select it from the login screen. Of course if you remove kde. you wont have KDM.
[18:34] <Jucato> joseph: hm ok... that's another problem altogether..
[18:34] <tuxianer> i want to have xdm
[18:35] <Dr_willis> fire up the package manager (synpatic i guess) search for kde. and start Uninstalling I guess. :) or google and find that site im thinkng of.
[18:36] <joseph> Jucato: Download done. md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[18:36] <Dr_willis> im thinking the total of the kde packages dont take up that much space..  unless you got like a 3gb hd. :)
[18:36] <BluesKaj> wine runs in linux patricio , you have to copy the apps over from windows using ntfs-3g or ntfs-config
[18:36] <Radi01> lol 3gig h/d.
[18:36] <tuxianer> we are talking about a really small hd
[18:36] <Dr_willis> patricio,  i find it best to reinstall the apps with wine.
[18:36] <mrdigital> what are the keyboard shortcuts for the diff stuff in compviz?
[18:36] <Dr_willis> I saw a 4gb USB drive for $40 over the weekend. :)
[18:37] <tuxianer> i think this will help me : apt-get remove kde && apt-get remove kde*
[18:37] <Radi01> Best buy had 1
[18:37] <Dr_willis> mrdigital,  install ccsm and use its settings/shortcuts to explore what all plugins are using what. Ive seen no easy way to see 'what all is used' in a nice page.
[18:37] <ScorpKing> Dr_willis: i get them for +/- $20 :P
[18:37] <Radi01> pny mem tho.
[18:37] <Dr_willis> ScorpKing,  yep. they had the sony Mini usb 2gb for $20. m
[18:38] <ScorpKing> nah, 4GB
[18:38] <Dr_willis> its Tiny tiny.. but i cant get a linux to install to it. :(
[18:38] <joseph> Jucato: i don't understand that md5sum error.
[18:38] <BluesKaj> Radi01, wifey still uses a 366mhz, 256RAM & 6Gig HDD :)
[18:38] <Dr_willis> ScorpKing,   well if i want tog et them off the back of a truck in the bad side of town... :)
[18:38] <tuxianer> ok i say thank you for your great help i hope it will help me this way thanks
[18:38] <ScorpKing> lol
[18:39] <Radi01> I have one some where 2/ps286 ibm.
[18:39] <parabol0x> joseph: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[18:39] <parabol0x> "md5sum mismatch" is a recently introduced bug caused by Adobe updating the installer without changing its file name. Enable "proposed updates" to install a fixed version of the Flash installer.
[18:39] <Radi01> All i have to do is put a set of tires on it and drive away.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> weird , I'm running amd 64bit Kubuntu and flash is working fine ...prolly using the ia32libs tho
[18:41] <Radi01> ya
[18:42] <Radi01> Does your 64 run pretty good?
[18:43] <ubuntu> någon som kan svenska??
[18:44] <BluesKaj> Radi01, yes , except for google earth which is a bit clunky ...have to use the default restricted fglrx driver due to the ati onboard grfx
[18:44] <joseph> is proposed updates = prereleased updates?
[18:45] <Radi01> I'm stalling on the 64 / kinda scared right now.
[18:45] <BluesKaj> !se | ubuntu
[18:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[18:47] <BluesKaj> Radi01, which grfx card are you running ?  that GE prob seems to be the only hitch i have so far
[18:47] <Radi01> nvidia/
[18:48] <Radi01> I see too many ati problems.
[18:48] <Auken> hrm
[18:48] <Radi01> Even though nvidia bought out ati 1 yr ago...go figure.
[18:49] <Auken> Has anyone had any success with Adobe Photoshop CS2 in Kubuntu using WINE?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> amd bought out ati , Radi01
[18:50] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[18:50] <Radi01> 1 ye ago...around.
[18:50] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:50] <BluesKaj> nvidia cards run well on 64 AFAIK , Radi01
[18:50] <Radi01> oh....they did?..didnt know that.
[18:51] <Auken> thanks
[18:51] <kubuntux> hallöle
[18:51] <kubuntux> jemand da?
[18:52] <cox377> hello all
[18:52] <cox377> is /media a mount point?
[18:52] <kubuntux> ja
[18:52] <Radi01> I see so many buyouts it is hard to keep up..
[18:53] <BluesKaj> !IPv6
[18:53] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[18:54] <joseph> Jucato: ok, so basically, the latest flashplayer doesn't work, right?
[18:54] <joseph> doesn't work in konqueror, i mean
[18:54] <Jucato> yep
[18:54] <cox377> Jucato: /media/FREECOM HDD/Downloads/
[18:54] <cox377> Jucato: sorry, is /media/FREECOM HDD/Downloads/ a mounted point?
[18:55] <Jucato> cox377: hm?
[18:55] <joseph> Jucato: so any idea on where to find the flash.tar.gz that works?
[18:55] <Jucato> nope :/
[18:55] <joseph> Jucato: ok
[18:55] <kubuntux> kennt sich jemand mit jabber aus?
[18:55] <MurielGodoi> Hi, can I just delete the files under /var/cache/apt to save disk space, or there is a right way to do that?
[18:55] <cox377> Jucato: basically, i've got app that is looking for an external HDD, is /media/FREECOM HDD/Downloads/ counted as a mounted point?
[18:56] <Lynoure> kubuntux: You want to ask something about jabber, but that's all I understand. Can you ask in English or try on #kubuntu-de?
[18:57] <Ozoned> Is it possible to install opera for AMD_64 from a repository, or only via dpkg  ?
[18:58] <fannagoganna> MurielGodoi, you can do "sudo apt-get clean"
[18:58] <fannagoganna> that should delete the packages stored in /var/cache/apt
[18:58] <joseph> Jucato: so is there a webpage that talks about the new version not working in konqueror? a bug report maybe?
[18:59] <MurielGodoi> fannagoganna: cool,  that worked fine. thanks
[18:59] <Jucato> joseph: not sure. if you want a more authoritative answer, try #kde or #khtml but it was in #kde that I heard about it
[18:59] <Jucato> cox377: sorry no idea about that
[18:59] <cox377> Jucato: np, cheers anyway
[19:09] <BluesKaj> joseph, I think the reason flash works on konq on my setup is i don't have flashplayer installed , only the flashplugin-nonfree
[19:09] <joseph> hm
[19:10] <mrdigital> is there a guide to making kbuntu look like mac?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> joseph, you may want to uninstall flashpler9 and leave flashplugin alone :)
[19:11] <joseph> BluesKaj: i don't have any packages called flashplayer* installed
[19:11] <joseph> there is libflash-swfplayer
[19:11] <joseph> is that what you mean?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:12] <fannagoganna> try "apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree" That works least painfully
[19:12] <joseph> fannagoganna: not really
[19:12] <joseph> BluesKaj: ok
[19:12] <fannagoganna> are you looking for a flash program?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> not flashplayer , flashplugin-nonfree
[19:13] <joseph> fannagoganna: it doesn't work in konqueror.
[19:13]  * genii sips a coffee
[19:13] <fannagoganna> to get it working in konqueror, let me check...
[19:14] <fannagoganna> there should be an entry there in konqueror. Settings--> Configure Konqueror --> Plugins.
[19:15] <joseph> yeah, i know
[19:15] <joseph> i've done all that already
[19:15] <joseph> the flash is broken in konqueror
[19:15] <Jucato> his particular version of flash
[19:15] <joseph> well, adept updated it
[19:15] <joseph> everything was fine before
[19:15] <joseph> STUPID PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE
[19:15] <Jucato> no caps please
[19:16] <joseph> yeah, well they're justified at the moment.
[19:17] <Lynoure> mrdigital: http://www.kubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Tuxintoxh+OS+X?content=40220 claims to be an OSX lookalike theme
[19:20] <kubuntux> hallo, jemand da?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !de | kubuntux
[19:21] <ubotu> kubuntux: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:23] <vbgunz> can k3b successfully burn IMG formatted images? is there a way to get support for IMG files? I burn them as ISO but they end up corrupt :(
[19:26] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, don't change them to iso , just leave them as img , they'll burn and run ok ...i tried it on a dvdrw and it worked fine in my stand alone player
[19:27] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: really? I say to burn ISO, then select all files in file search dialog. I select the IMG and burn it but they all turn out corrupt. not just a single IMG file but all :(
[19:27] <virnik> hi there again. i got here some old crap...little bit tuned, but still, gotcha problem with mplayer and xorg itself...there are per five mins peaks up to 90% CPU load, with picture distortion. i got installed w32 codecs as well as ffmpeg, but there are still glitches.
[19:28] <virnik> using gutsy 7.10
[19:29] <virnik> can somebody provide me with some tips? xorg.conf is really good tuned, without any problem. 3D card's based nvidia 52k FX, 128MB
[19:30] <virnik> this xorg.conf is used on my own laptop, so there is no way it shall provide any usable data. i only saw that new KDE after last update got used to some 3D effects, which cant be absolutelly turned of, even by kpersonalizer or kcontrol
[19:32] <BluesKaj> ok vbgunz did you use kiso to convert ?
[19:32] <virnik> compiz fusion is not yet installed
[19:33] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: no. I would just launch k3b, select burn image (iso), in the file search dialog "make all types available", select the IMG file and burn that... I just don't think k3b supports IMG out of the box. I just mounted the IMG file to extract the contents. will try burning like that
[19:35] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, try converting it with kiso first , then try to play it in VLC to make sure it's not corrupted
[19:35] <BluesKaj> VLC will play iso files
[19:35] <vbgunz> kiso? I'll check
[19:35] <juanjo> hi
[19:36] <Paddy_EIRE> how do I check the remaining space of my hdd in kde
[19:36] <vbgunz> Paddy_EIRE: df -h
[19:36] <vbgunz> or df --help
[19:37] <Paddy_EIRE> yeah just remembered thx anyway
[19:37] <Paddy_EIRE> does konversation not spell check?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> vbgunz, after installing kiso , you just need to right click on the file and choose the "actions" option to see kiso ...or under "utilities" in the k-menu
[19:38] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: ok, will try that now
[19:38] <unix_infidel> can anyone throw out a friggin awesome compiz video?
[19:39] <unix_infidel> erm, now its called beryl.
[19:39] <Paddy_EIRE> why.
[19:39] <unix_infidel> Paddy_EIRE: i need a youtube link or something.
[19:39] <Paddy_EIRE> they play crappy new metal and its just silly
[19:39] <Paddy_EIRE> unix_infidel: search youtube
[19:40] <Paddy_EIRE> unix_infidel: and its compiz-fusion
[19:41] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: kiso was todays best tip :)
[19:41] <vbgunz> BluesKaj: thank you!
[19:41] <vbgunz> already did it but this would be quiker in the future :)
[19:43] <ubuntu__> hello hello
[19:44] <atomicnation> hello
[19:44] <unix_infidel> Paddy_EIRE: meaning compiz has fused with beryl and it's no longer compiz and beryl?
[19:44] <atomicnation> i'm trying to view my contact list in copete
[19:44] <atomicnation> can sombody heplme
[19:44] <atomicnation> ?
[19:45] <atomicnation> im from spain..
[19:45] <svenne> kommer inte åt svenska suport hjälpen till kubuntu någom som kan ge mig rätt adress
[19:45] <svenne> ??
[19:45] <virnik> can somebody answer my question?
[19:46] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | virnik
[19:46] <ubotu> virnik: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:48] <atomicnation> alo
[19:49] <virnik> Paddy_EIRE: funny. i just done. no answer
[19:49] <virnik> Paddy_EIRE: read few lines above
[19:52] <sourcemaker> how can i configure my keyboard... to use the special keys?
[19:53] <sourcemaker> second question.... when will the next xine-lib be released?
[19:54] <unix_infidel> does compiz fusion work with fluxbox yet?
[19:54] <unix_infidel> lol
[19:54] <^kaminix^> How can I make Kaffeine recognize files with multiple audio tracks? I don't like using VLC :(
[19:55] <motopicco85> Hi, when I install kubuntu 7.10 I lose the start screen with the word kubuntu and the scrollbar under this word...in 7.04 I had it..how can I have it in 7.10? I'm sorry for my english
[19:56] <ScorpKing> i got my first custom usplash theme working - http://i7.tinypic.com/6ybpk0m.jpg yay! :D
[19:57] <Carutsu> hi, eh, I've erased my .bashrc file by mistake, where can i get another copy of it?
[19:58] <Radi01> file:///home/johnny/snapshot3.png
[19:58] <ScorpKing> Carutsu: locate bashrc
[19:58] <Radi01> oops
[19:59] <sourcemaker> Radi01: nicer
[19:59] <sourcemaker> Radi01: nice :-)
[19:59] <Radi01> kool?
[19:59] <Carutsu> ScorpKing: mm, there seem to be some, let's see if i can recognize one of them, how didn't i think in locate?!, thank you
[20:00] <ScorpKing> lol. yw :)
[20:00] <Carutsu> ScorpKing: for the record, there's a /root/.bashrc that you can youst cat and copy : )
[20:01] <ScorpKing> yeah, and for every other user. should be one somewhere in /usr as well
[20:02] <habdel> !file xpce
[20:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about file xpce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:02] <Carutsu> the fact is I only have 2 users and I'm messing up with the bashrc, for some reazon it tells me that 'ash: /home/carutsu/.bashrc: line 24: sintaxis error near the unexpected token `in
[20:03] <zismuc> hola
[20:03] <Radi01> butter
[20:03] <zismuc> spanish??
[20:04] <Paddy_EIRE> cake
[20:04] <joseph> so i finally got the kde screensavers to work, except that it writes error messages to an open konsole:  xscreensaver: 15:03:06: couldn't grab keyboard!  (AlreadyGrabbed) (and etc)
[20:04] <ScorpKing> !es | zismuc
[20:04] <ubotu> zismuc: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:04] <zismuc> thanks
[20:04] <zismuc> ;)
[20:05] <jules_> bonjour
[20:05] <Radi01> jeans
[20:05] <ScorpKing> !fr > jules_
[20:07] <Carutsu> and i just wanted to do an easy change, i just wanted to change a 5 by a 4, :/ now for some reazon bash yields about something i didn't touch!
[20:10] <jamie_> need to know where to find drivers for lite-on wireless network card (WN6300L)
[20:11] <sourcemaker> can i synchronized kmail with lotus notes?
[20:17] <sourcemaker> is there a kde home clean programm available?
[20:18] <steveire> How do I list only the directories in a directory? ls -d doesn't work and find -type d is recursive.
[20:19] <ScorpKing> is there a command to make a sound on the ps scpeaker?
[20:19] <ScorpKing> speaker*
[20:19] <xst> Can anyone help me to debug this: When I change the paper size (to a smaller one) in e.g. OpenOffice and prints it out, the output is left aligned on the paper sheet - even though my printers paper tray centers the paper sheets. In other words it seems the printer thinks that the paper is placed to the left in paper tray instead of in the center. The result is that the contents are exceeding the paper boundaries to the left. I h
[20:19] <xst> ave another linux box with feisty installed. Here, the printing to smaller page sizes works fine. What to do?
[20:20] <ScorpKing> xst: check the pages setup in openoffice.
[20:20] <MrParity> hi ho :-)
[20:21] <sourcemaker> ScorpKing: beep?
[20:21] <xst> ScorpKing: What do you mean?
[20:21] <sourcemaker> ScorpKing: I have not tested... :-)
[20:21] <ScorpKing> beep not found
[20:21] <ScorpKing> xst: one sec..
[20:21] <mogy> i cant play any media
[20:22] <mogy> help
[20:22] <mogy> i will back to widows
[20:23] <ScorpKing> !info beep
[20:23] <ubotu> beep: advanced pc-speaker beeper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-19 (gutsy), package size 21 kB, installed size 108 kB
[20:25] <ScorpKing> xst: i can't find the setting now. :( nvm
[20:26] <ScorpKing> !version > ScorpKing
[20:30] <MrParity> i have a problem. i've installed ubuntu with the kubuntu package. with some programms (audacity, firefox) i see the gnome file dialog. i've tried to uninstall all gnome components, but it didn't help.
[20:30] <MrParity> is there any way to get the nice kde file menu
[20:31] <ScorpKing> MrParity: there is a solution for that on www.kde-apps.org i think
[20:31] <MrParity> ScorpKing:  thanks
[20:31] <ScorpKing> yw
[20:32] <vsingh165> ok flash isn't working
[20:32] <vsingh165> it keeps crashing in konqueror
[20:33] <vsingh165> maybe i'll just switch to firefox
[20:33] <hydrogen> can someone explain to me
[20:33] <hydrogen> what exactly is a "Tutorials Day week"
[20:36] <maverick_> ppl at #bash are so formal :D ask once and ask direct ...one question to one person per day :D
[20:37] <_philipp> Hi all, what do u think of my idea to improve the usability of the trash bin: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153492
[20:37] <maverick_> _philipp:what's the idea?!
[20:38] <gpant> how does one setup multiple desktops in kde4/plasma? I cant seem to find the settings anywhere....
[20:38] <hydrogen> you don't.
[20:38] <_philipp> the idea is to sort the deleted items. so that u find easily what u just deleted
[20:38] <fdoving> _philipp: like it.
[20:38] <_philipp> cool to hear. The first one in a forum told me to use "sort by date"
[20:38] <maverick_> _philipp: productive, i guess
[20:39] <_philipp> will u vote for it?
[20:39] <_philipp> unfortunately I am unable to code that.. :(
[20:39] <maverick_> _philipp: yeah if u gave me the direct link to the yes VOTE :D
[20:39] <_philipp> :D no bugzilla account?
[20:40] <maverick_> _philipp: no! :D
[20:40] <_philipp> http://bugs.kde.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=153492
[20:40] <Dragonath> er, why do my thunderbird mails show up with no message body? :(
[20:40] <_philipp> :/ too bad
[20:40] <maverick_> did anyone get to see dolphin in KDE4, does it support sorting files by type ?!!
[20:41] <_philipp> where can I present that idea to reach many coders?
[20:42] <Lynoure> _philipp: kde-apps.org has a section for stuff like that, I think
[20:42] <_philipp> ok thanks. To u like it too?
[20:42] <Lynoure> _philipp: didn't look.
[20:42] <gpant> maverick: reg dolphin - yes it does.
[20:43] <_philipp> Lynoure: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153492
[20:43] <osman47> !
[20:43] <osman47> !de
[20:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:43] <Lynoure> _philipp: I saw the url, usually links are just not worth the time, and I have been ok with the Trash can so far
[20:44] <Lynoure> and this one takes registering (or, rather, remembering my password)
[20:45] <osman47> whats a good programm 4 my webcam?
[20:46] <jhutchins> !webcam | osman47
[20:46] <ubotu> osman47: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:46] <_philipp> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Webcam
[20:47] <Megget> hey, how do I do to connect my pc to my tv?
[20:48] <Megget> anyone?
[20:48] <ScorpKing> you have a tv card?
[20:49] <Megget> yeah, i do
[20:49] <ScorpKing> hmm.. connect the cable from the pc to the tv then
[20:49] <Megget> I have, but my tv doesn't show anything?
[20:50] <Megget> any settings I have to change?
[20:50] <frogface> Hello folks. KDE themes in Gutsy; how to save them; confused? I can
[20:50] <frogface> 't see any theme manager :/
[20:50] <jhutchins> !tvout | Megget
[20:50] <ubotu> Megget: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[20:50] <Megget> ok, thank's guys
[20:50] <ScorpKing> look in kcontrol under the Monitor and setup a second monitor. not sure how to do that. you'll have to look around
[20:51] <ScorpKing> Megget: ^
[20:51]  * ScorpKing hides..
[20:55] <pigeon22> I'm an IRC noob and I was wondering why some people type
[20:55] <pigeon22> object | name
[20:56] <pigeon22> what does that do?
[20:56] <ScorpKing> !ubuto
[20:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:56] <ScorpKing> bah..
[20:56] <ScorpKing> !ubotu
[20:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:57] <pigeon22> cool
[20:57] <pigeon22> thanks
[20:57] <ScorpKing> it's a bot ^. it helps to give links and info on some things. if you use !fractoid | nick it will tell the nick about the !fractoid
[21:01] <ScorpKing> heh. factoid*
[21:01] <deick> holaaa que es esto
[21:01]  * ScorpKing slaps himself..
[21:01] <deick> what is this
[21:01] <ScorpKing> irc
[21:01] <deick> mm have more chanels ??
[21:02] <ScorpKing> deick: the kubuntu support room
[21:02] <deick> what serch more chanels??
[21:02] <ScorpKing> deick: yes. type /list but you might get lag
[21:05] <deick> ok
[21:05] <deick> were are you from scorpking
[21:05] <ScorpKing> !ot
[21:05] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[21:05] <ScorpKing> go talk in offtopic. i'm there
[21:09] <boggystudios> isn't there a program that will let me use one mouse and one keyboard with a windows machine and linux machine?
[21:10] <StevenR> boggystudios: how exactly would they be connected?
[21:11] <ScorpKing> !kvm
[21:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:12] <BluesKaj> KVM switch, boggystudios ...it's not a program but a peice of hardware that switches your KB and mouse and monitor between pc's
[21:13] <level1_> Hi, something just consumed all my disk space... deleted 700MB of files, and within seconds it was all used up again... how can I detect what is using my hard drive so ravenously?
[21:14] <wpk> level1_: as root cd / && find -size +1000M
[21:17] <ScorpKing> "Read the passphrase from file descriptor with number num instead of from the terminal." what does that mean again?
[21:17] <level1_> holy ----... something is filling up my .xsession-errors file... its current 1.7gb
[21:18] <level1_> and i can't shift for some reason... i pressed the volume key a couple of times and it keeps trying to turn down the volume
[21:19] <gurtubay> please what is pag kubuntu spanis
[21:19] <Radi01> How do I restore panel. is there a history file some where?
[21:19] <gurtubay> server in spanish
[21:19] <genii> level1_: Perhaps keyboard error reports are filling up the log
[21:19] <level1_> genii: i can't open the file to read it, it must be too big
[21:20] <genii> level1_: tail /filename            just gives you the last bit
[21:20] <level1_> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[21:20] <level1_> over and over again
[21:20] <boggystudios> StevenR: What it does is when you move your mouse to the edge of your screen it jumps to the monitor of the other computer,  I heard about it a few years ago on TechTV
[21:20] <boggystudios> StevenR: I think it is called Syncronize or something
[21:20] <level1_> top
[21:21] <deick> alguien abla español
[21:21] <gurtubay> pleasyo
[21:21] <deick> alguien abla español
[21:21] <gurtubay> yo
[21:21] <ScorpKing> !es
[21:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:21] <deick> aa ok si entiendes bien el español
[21:21] <deick> como haces para dejar mensajes privados alos usuarios ??
[21:22] <deick> mmm
[21:22] <BluesKaj> !es | deick
[21:22] <ubotu> deick: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:22] <genii> level1_: googling that error along with kubuntu produces 130-something results
[21:23] <deick> ank you
[21:23] <deick> tankz
[21:23] <genii> not all with the same app as suspected culprit, etc either
[21:23] <ardchoille> I have only dealth with the ext3 fs for the past 8 years. Today I bought a 1Gb USB key, I used qtparted to partition and format it to fat32. Was this wise and is there anything else I need to do for it?
[21:24] <genii> ardchoille: Dunno about wise.
[21:24] <ardchoille> genii: ?
[21:24] <ardchoille> I did notice that kde popped up a dialog asking me what to do when I plugged it in
[21:24] <xoqa> we have to select 'kubuntu recovery' everytime from the grub menu when starting, otherwise, it just goes to a blank screen and never shows what's happening, and it doesn't go to kdm
[21:24] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, the usb keys are normally natively formatted to fat 32 or even fat16
[21:25] <ardchoille> So I assume it's all working properly
[21:25] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: it was fat16, but kde didn't recognise the fs, it recognises it now, tho
[21:25] <xoqa> i can delete the other option and rename the recovery prompt to 'kubuntu'... but.. this is a fresh install
[21:25] <BluesKaj> yes, it prolly is working ok now, ardchoille
[21:26] <genii> ardchoille: Since under 4gb the fat 4gb filesize limit means nothing in this case. But you won't be able to use linux permissions well on it, also fat filesystems need the old "scandisk" type of maintenance which is a pita from linux
[21:26] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ok, thanks. I couldn't pass it up as it only cost $5.00
[21:26] <BluesKaj> strange I bought a 1G key 2 yrs ago and it was fat32
[21:26] <xoqa> and i always have to enter 'exit' because while booting, it logs in as root
[21:26] <xoqa> and then it starts kdm
[21:26] <BluesKaj> cool , ardchoille good deal :)
[21:26] <xoqa> any thoughts?
[21:26] <ardchoille> genii: Yeah. I chose fat32 because I will likely use it between a Linux box and a Windows box
[21:27] <genii> ardchoille: Then you can use the windows box in this case to occasionally scandisk/defrag it :)
[21:27] <ardchoille> Ah, yeah
[21:27] <ardchoille> genii: Does Windows recognise ext3? Maybe I could have partitined it to ext3
[21:28] <genii> ardchoille: fs-driver.org has ext2 driver which can read ext3 also (without the journalling)
[21:28] <ardchoille> ok
[21:29] <genii> I'm not usre if Vista has some builtin ext driver or not
[21:29] <genii> usre->sure
[21:29] <sourcemaker> is there any way... to test the security of my firewall?
[21:29] <boggystudios> sourcemaker: nmap
[21:29] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: nmap ?
[21:29] <sourcemaker> any options to nmap?
[21:29] <genii> quite a few
[21:30] <ardchoille> There are some, probably best to man nmap
[21:30] <boggystudios> sourcemaker: get the nmap gui
[21:30] <ardchoille> nmap has a gui?
[21:30] <genii> sourcemaker: nmap kde ... knmap
[21:30] <ardchoille> wow, I've been stuck in cli too long, lol
[21:30] <boggystudios> ardchoille: yeah knmap
[21:30] <ardchoille> Nice
[21:30] <sourcemaker> 2035/tcp open  imsldoc
[21:31] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Do you have any world-facing servers, open or forwarded ports?
[21:32] <sourcemaker> ardchoille: no
[21:32] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Then you may not even need a firewall running.
[21:32] <sourcemaker> I am a security paranoid :-)
[21:32] <ardchoille> Me too
[21:33] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: I would recommend installing and running chkrootkit and rkhunter, both are in the repos
[21:33] <level1> okay, wow...
[21:33] <sub[t]rnl> and portsentry
[21:33] <ardchoille> Another good one
[21:33] <Shinha> Hi, i am new, i want to learn how to program (sorry if you can understand me, i speak spanish).
[21:33] <ScorpKing> hi sub[t]rnl! ;)
[21:33] <sub[t]rnl> heyo
[21:33] <ardchoille> Shinha: There's a spanish channel if you are interested
[21:33] <ardchoille> !es
[21:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:34] <sourcemaker> Shinha: which kind of programming language do you want to learn?
[21:34] <Shinha> But i want opinions of english programmers :P
[21:34] <ScorpKing> Shinha: one sec.. i'm getting links for you
[21:34] <Shinha> For software
[21:35] <Shinha> no webs
[21:35] <sourcemaker> Shinha: gui applications?
[21:35] <ardchoille> Shinha: There are lots of options: C/C++, Java, Python, Perl, and more
[21:35] <sourcemaker> Shinha: Java is easy to learn... :-)
[21:35] <sub[t]rnl> Ruby is fun and easy as well
[21:36] <sourcemaker> Shinha: but Java is not often used in linux
[21:36] <Shinha> What do you recommend?
[21:36] <Shinha> Yes
[21:36] <Shinha> GUI
[21:36] <sscano> ////
[21:37] <ScorpKing> Shinha: i recomend this - http://mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html and use kdevelop for an IDE
[21:38] <level1> can somebody repost the X error I posted a few minutes ago?  other wise I'll lose it forever and I need it for debugging
[21:38] <level1> are there archives of this chat?
[21:38] <level1> !archives
[21:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archives - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:38] <sourcemaker> anybody tested kstreamripper?
[21:38] <level1> !chat
[21:38] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[21:38] <ScorpKing> [23:20] <level1_> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[21:39] <level1> ScorpKing: thanks
[21:39] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[21:39] <ardchoille> !logs
[21:39] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[21:39] <sscano> !gaim
[21:39] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !gaim
[21:39] <ardchoille> level1: ^^
[21:41] <sscano> /
[21:41] <Shinha> Thanks
[21:44] <sourcemaker> kstreamripper users?
[21:45] <sscano> dfsf
[21:50] <niklauz> hello
[21:52] <niklauz> i need help, i think my apt-get got broken somehow, I just re-installed gutsy and am getting this message when i try to apt-get upgrade...
[21:55] <phoenix__> adress please thank you  #chez-moi
[21:56] <Shinha> Bye
[21:58] <niklauz> here are the details
[21:58] <niklauz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47040/
[21:58] <ardchoille> !aptfix
[21:58] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:59] <niklauz> mkay, i'll give it a shot
[21:59] <KaTet> Hi, ich hab da ne Frage zu xorg.conf. Nach dem Booten laden ich im Ammeldefenster von Gusty. Bildschirm (17" CRT) zeigt wie gewünscht 85Hz an. Dann nach dem Einloggen und starten von KDE springt die Darstellung um auf 75Hz. Gibt's denn außer /etc/X11/xorg.conf noch benutzerabhängige Xserver Konfig-Dateien?
[22:00] <ardchoille> !de | KaTet
[22:00] <ubotu> KaTet: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:01] <level1> umm, aptitude is trying and failing to resolve some dependency issues for some kde4 components from gutsy-backports that I don't need; apparently the files are not configured; how can I tell aptitude to just delete them?
[22:01] <level1> the packages refuse to configure beacuse of dependency issues
[22:01] <KaTet> Sorry for posting in german.
[22:07] <KaTet> Ok, now in english. I wonder why the CRTs frequency is switching back from 85Hz (Gusty login screen) to 75Hz after login an starting kde. Are there any other user dependent config files for xserver than xorg.conf in /etc/X11?
[22:07] <sourcemaker> Linux is best ever:-)
[22:07] <Minataku> KDE does lots of stupid crap
[22:07] <Minataku> It's probably changing the resolution itself for some dumb reason
[22:07] <Minataku> Try xrandr
[22:07] <Minataku> !xrandr
[22:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xrandr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:07] <Minataku> Who deleted that?
[22:08] <Minataku> They should be released from the project for that
[22:08] <Minataku> Anyway
[22:08] <Minataku> !info xrandr
[22:08] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 84 kB
[22:08] <Minataku> It's optional for some stupid reason, and there used to be a guide on how to use it, but some meathead deleted it
[22:08] <Minataku> !resolution
[22:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:08] <level1> !aptfix
[22:08] <Minataku> That might have info, the second part
[22:08] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:09] <Minataku> I THINK that xrandr can change refresh
[22:09] <level1> !apt broken packages?
[22:10] <KaTet> Ok, what does xrandr tell me?
[22:10] <Minataku> If packages are broken, you can try to add dummy packages, preferably compile what needs to be done yourself
[22:10] <Minataku> KaTet: xrandr is a tool to change the screenmode
[22:11] <KaTet> I think I've to read man page.
[22:12] <Minataku> That'd be the best option
[22:12] <KaTet> But bakc to the config files. xorg.conf is the only place to configre xserve, is this right?
[22:12] <Minataku> I haven't used xrandr in ages
[22:12] <Minataku> Right, but applications can change the screen mode at will
[22:12] <Minataku> Like games that grab the display and switch to full screen
[22:13] <Minataku> These are allowed to alter screen modes
[22:13] <KaTet> So, in my case kde is the application that changes it, right?
[22:14] <Minataku> It would seem so
[22:14] <Minataku> Why, I don't know
[22:14] <Minataku> KDE does some stupid things, and I try not to think about why stupid things are done, usually because the reason is stupid
[22:14] <Minataku> lol
[22:15] <KaTet> Where is the file where kde has it's configuration about that?
[22:26] <fenderbender> Hi all, can someone please give me a download script (can it be done from adept?) with the current state of your packages?
[22:27] <fenderbender> The bigger the number of packages, the better.
[22:27] <fenderbender> I don't have an internet connection at home, so am looking to download as much as i can while i am at work.
[22:28] <fenderbender> anyone?
[22:29] <fdoving> fenderbender: as in update your off-line box from the online one?
[22:29] <fenderbender> no update my offline box from a windows box :(
[22:29] <fenderbender> I cannot install linux at work, obviously
[22:31] <fenderbender> wish if there were an online app that'd do just that, specify ARCH, packages and hardware, which'll then take all of it to generate a download script
[22:31] <fdoving> fenderbender: is your gutsy at home the final gutsy install?
[22:31] <fdoving> fenderbender: there is a app that can do almost that. apt-zip
[22:31] <fdoving> but it needs to be installed on the offline computer.
[22:31] <fenderbender> fdoving: i am running feisty. i've got the gutsy gibbon cd.
[22:31] <fdoving> to make a list of urls to download.
[22:32] <fenderbender> fdoving: yeah, i used to do that with synaptic. either way, its not inconvenient. what i am trying to figure out is how to get most of the typical packages while i am at work.
[22:32] <fdoving> fenderbender: if you just want gutsy updates, then you can fetch the complete gutsy-updates and gutsy-security repos.
[22:33] <fenderbender> oh. that sounds useful.
[22:42] <neur1> what's the app to change adjust the splash screen?
[22:43] <ScorpKing> which splash screen?
[22:43] <fdoving> fenderbender: want me to make a urllist of files to download? both archives?
[22:43] <neur1> the one when you boot up . . .
[22:43] <ScorpKing> ah. usplash
[22:43] <ScorpKing> !usplash
[22:43] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[22:44] <ScorpKing> good luck
[22:44] <neur1> thanks!
[22:44] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[22:44]  * ScorpKing looks at his custom usplash and grin..
[22:45] <nicandro> hi, is there a chance to find drivers for "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0766:0001 Jess-Link Products Co., Ltd" ?
[22:45] <ScorpKing> on google maybe
[22:46] <wpk> nicandro: and what it is?
[22:46] <ScorpKing> !hardware
[22:46] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[22:48] <nicandro> it's a sata external usb hd
[22:48] <nicandro> wpk:
[22:48] <darkenedcorridor> so is kubuntu really not going to have compiz fusion?
[22:48] <wpk> nicandro: tried usb-storage?
[22:48] <wpk> generic driver?
[22:48] <ScorpKing> !compiz | darkenedcorridor
[22:48] <ubotu> darkenedcorridor: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:49] <darkenedcorridor> thanks
[22:50] <nicandro> wpk: is it a cmmand ?
[22:50] <wpk> nicandro: modprobe usb-storage
[22:50] <wpk> nicandro: maybe it's already attached?
[22:50] <wpk> (probably is)
[22:50] <deminemi> is there a bash help channel ?
[22:50] <wpk> and modprobe sd-mod
[22:50] <ScorpKing> deminemi: #bash
[22:50] <fdoving> deminemi: yes, #bash, is your question advanced? we might be able to help here too.
[22:50] <deminemi> ScorpKing: thanks
[22:51] <deminemi> it is fairly simple, i am wondering if it is possible to have a userspace bash program run itself as superuser
[22:51] <nicandro> wpk: thnks, let's try
[22:51] <LjL> hm?
[22:51] <deminemi> IE could i set it as executable, click it from my desktop, and have it insert a kernel module into the kernel
[22:52] <ScorpKing> deminemi: like sudo <script/program> ?
[22:52] <wpk> deminemi: you probably don't want to do it
[22:52] <ScorpKing> deminemi: oh. yes you can.
[22:52] <deminemi> that would work i think
[22:52] <wpk> (insert a module)
[22:52] <wpk> (by clicking an icon on your desktop)
[22:53] <ScorpKing> deminemi: to insert a module add the module name in /etc/modules
[22:53] <deminemi> well i want it to insert a kernel module, create a /dev node, and chmod it so i can access it
[22:53] <wpk> deminemi: it should be done by udev
[22:53] <LjL> deminemi, make it kdesudo, so it will show you a dialog. sudo from an icon won't work
[22:53] <wpk> automatically
[22:53] <nicandro> wpk: tried with usb-storage, but it doesn't work
[22:53] <nicandro> (the device was already attached....)
[22:53] <wpk> nicandro: how are you telling that it doesn't work?
[22:54] <deminemi> but if i am modifying the kernel module and it needs to be reloaded, how could that be done without a rmmod/insmod ?
[22:54] <wpk> how modifying?
[22:54] <nicandro> wpk: when i detach it and attach it again, it shows a popup  ("open the device") but after pressing "ok" it doesn't mount it
[22:54] <deminemi> adding and removing things, mostly i am messing with the IOCTL of a driver i am working on
[22:54] <wpk> try to mount it manually?
[22:55] <wpk> sudo mount /dev/sdsomething /mnt
[22:56] <ScorpKing> deminemi: so you change the module and then test it and go back to do more changing?
[22:56] <deminemi> basically, yeah
[22:56] <batis> can i add some php code with original colors to an openOffice file??
[22:56] <ScorpKing> oh ok. a desktop icon will save time then
[22:57] <deminemi> but is it possible to have that icon removing and inserting the modules ? i've never really worked with bash before
[22:57] <ScorpKing> deminemi: yes it is. no need to do it with bash
[22:58] <deminemi> any chance you could point me in the direction of another way to do it ? or maybe a site with a tutorial ?
[22:58] <ScorpKing> deminemi: i'll paste an example just now. one sec..
[22:58] <ScorpKing> !paste > ScorpKing
[22:59] <deminemi> that showed on my screen as "!paste > ScorpKing" :-\
[23:00] <ScorpKing> i'm still busy. :P one sec..
[23:00] <airam> helloooooooooooooo
[23:00] <deminemi> okies :)
[23:01] <johnny_> I used this and it is asking for supervisor pass..dpkg --configure -a  whats the real command..thanks
[23:04] <johnny_> adept wont let me get any packages. how to fix...fresh install.
[23:05] <deminemi> what error does it give you ?
[23:05] <johnny_> dpkg --configure -a
[23:05] <deminemi> and you don't have the superuser password ?
[23:05] <Mistical> hi there
[23:05] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[23:05] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:05] <johnny_> i used my normal pass and it wont work
[23:06] <johnny_> ah thanks let me try
[23:06] <ScorpKing> deminemi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47047/ - make a file called InsMod or something on your Desktop and put that in there. It will give you an idea of what to do
[23:06] <Mistical> a small question, I'm setting up compiz-fusion, it's mostly working alright. But a couple of settings I make are automaticly changed back. For instance the general option click to raise, it keeps disabling it. How do I make that option stick?
[23:07] <deminemi> awesome, thanks for the help
[23:07] <ScorpKing> yw :)
[23:07] <johnny_> that was the 1..thanks.
[23:08] <deminemi> does this need to be in the same folder as the kernel module ?
[23:08] <deminemi> or can i put a complete path from its' current location ?
[23:09] <EnsGabe> kdesktop doesn't want to change wallpapers around.  I've tried killing and restarting kdesktop, but that didn't help.  What else can I do?
[23:09] <ScorpKing> deminemi: you can put /path/to/module instead of <modulename>
[23:09] <deminemi> kk, thanks again :)
[23:12] <BluesKaj> EnsGabe, k-menu/system settings/desktop/background
[23:13] <Mistical> a small question, I'm setting up compiz-fusion, it's mostly working alright. But a couple of settings I make are automaticly changed back. For instance the general option click to raise, it keeps disabling it. How do I make that option stick?
[23:13] <EnsGabe> BluesKaj: that dialog isn't working
[23:14] <batis> can i add some php code with original colors to an openOffice file??
[23:14] <BluesKaj> EnsGabe, it's not a dialog...use the kmenu then system settings , then click desktop, then background
[23:15] <genii> Anything simple (even CLI) to make some still jpg shots into a short footage?
[23:15] <EnsGabe> BluesKaj: I'm doing that, and it's doing nothing
[23:16] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: is your background picture not changing?
[23:17] <EnsGabe> mcrandello: That is correct
[23:17] <mcrandello> there's a file you need to delete, I'm trying to find the bug report from when I had that same issue
[23:18] <BluesKaj> puzzling ...
[23:19] <nicandro> wpk: thnks, it works
[23:19] <Tm_T> hi kids
[23:20] <BluesKaj> hmm, i'm beginning to think the 64bit version isn't clunky afterall :)
[23:20] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[23:20] <Tm_T> should not be
[23:20]  * genii clunks along on i386
[23:20] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hi :)
[23:20] <mcrandello> EnsGabe, BluesKaj I'm not having too much luck here with the google, still looking
[23:22] <kijutsu> Kubuntu keeps screwing up my system clock.  Everytime I boot into windows it's off by several hours.  How do I fix Kubuntu to accept the clock from the BIOS as default time?
[23:22] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: try this from a konsole window "mv .kde/share/config/kdesktoprc .kde/share/config/kdesktoprc-oopsie"
[23:23] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, genii , EnsGabe has  a strange problem ...when trying ,his desktop background won't change in system settings/desktop/background
[23:23] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: and then log out of kde and back in
[23:23] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm actually having same issue
[23:23] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: something is drawing on top of it then? like nauutilus
[23:23] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: if that one doesn't work then move it back by reversing those two file lines in the command
[23:24] <genii> I'm stuck with default KDE blue for now
[23:24] <EnsGabe> mcrandello: that did the trick!
[23:24] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: did you upgrade kde?
[23:25] <EnsGabe> Not since I was last able to change the desktop
[23:25] <BluesKaj> hmm , I'm using a nice pic the wife took at 6AM on july 1st of the front yard in it's greenery ...just remind me that winter will end eventually :)
[23:25] <genii> It started for me after my buddy installed some poker app thru WINE
[23:25] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: odd, for me it happened when I upgraded within 3.x
[23:26] <EnsGabe> Actually, I installed the kde4 rc packages, but they have their own separate config directory
[23:26] <mcrandello> EnsGabe: you'll probably need to go over your desktop settings, but pretty much the file get's corrupted, or in my case there was a setting that caused the newer kde version to crap the bed.
[23:27] <mcrandello> s/get's/gets
[23:27] <kub^> noob question, how do i bring an interface up/down? :)
[23:27] <BluesKaj> well genii, maybe mcrandello's fix will work for you too
[23:28] <mcrandello> kub^: from the console? ifconfig ethx up/down
[23:28] <genii> I think I'll stick with what I have. I hate having to reset all my prefs
[23:28] <kub^> thank you :)
[23:28] <NickPresta> kub^, `ifconfig ethX up`. More info: `man ifconfig`
[23:28] <mcrandello> kub^: also perhaps ifup ethx or ifdown, I don't know if those come standard but I have them here
[23:29] <kub^> thanks, will that renew my ip also if on dhcp?
[23:29] <Tm_T> porno: mind to change nick?
[23:30] <mcrandello> genii: it may be possible to fix it by removing all the lines related to the bg image in that file to fix it but I always go for the clean-slate-scorched-earth policy when it comes to config files hosing things
[23:31] <genii> heh
[23:31] <genii> btw found answer to my earlier q , the answer:  mencoder -mf on:w=800:h=600:fps=25 -ovc divx4 -o output.avi \*.jpg
[23:31] <porno> k
[23:32] <ScorpKing> !raid > ScorpKing
[23:35] <mcrandello> anyone using virtualbox seamless? I was looking at the writeup on the forums and was wondering if doing the vrdp thing would work any better in kubuntu that just selecting the seamless menu from vbox
[23:35] <mcrandello> the guide is a lot of words however, which intimidates me
[23:38] <BluesKaj> BTW folks, I found a neat script for recoding/converting to dvd,ipod,mpeg ..it's ffmpegmenu , here : http://fosswire.com/2007/11/27/ffmpegmenu-transcode-videos-from-your-file-manager/
[23:49] <ScorpKing> what happened to the raid option in the alternate install cd? :(
[23:49] <kawa> ciao
[23:52] <devinus> so
[23:52] <devinus> i have knetworkmanager running
[23:52] <devinus> but it doesn't list my wireless networks
[23:52] <devinus> but i'm freaking connected!
[23:52] <devinus> what's up?
[23:53] <devinus> :(
[23:54] <sp3c> no, just that the Zend guy is onsite, and I thought sean was home18:51:53kb314159  ohohyeah but today wasnt really intended to turn into a workig meeting... we're gonna do a whole big week of training and working sessions18:52:35Jentoo Troll  oh cool18:53:05kb314159  yeah... mike, eric and the guy ed were really just fscking around seeng what Zend Studio could do (the developer tool) and they took sean's shit that he already did and it plu
[23:54] <sp3c> :57kb314159  yeah manreally cool shit
[23:55] <CrocoJet> exist some type log file of installation and update process in kubuntu ?
[23:55] <sp3c> whoops  ignore... sorry
[23:55] <CrocoJet> if yes .. where I can find ?
[23:58] <tsilalah> CrocoJet: do you mean dpkg ? there is one in /var/log/dpkg.log
[23:58] <sp3c> I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on my laptop.  Everything was alright, until I installed the nvidia driver from nvidia.  I didn't like it..  so tried to unistall it... that didn't go well, driver didn't clean itself up well.  So eventually I got rid of it... but I think I ended up doing a fresh kernel module install (not exactly sure what I did). Anyways, I lost some of my kernel modules..  vmware, soundcard, wireless card..   I got vmware back..
[23:58] <sp3c> pt I could run to get back all the other drivers ?   i.e. like right after I did my install ?
[23:59] <CrocoJet> what is the meaning "status half-installed flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12" ?
[23:59] <CrocoJet> half-installed ?