[00:28] <lunks> Hey, I'm currently running hardy, and a previous workaround for black ttys on nvidias made vesafb load instead of nvidiafb and made it unable to start X from vesafb.
[00:28] <lunks> Just upgraded to hardy on this machine.
[00:34] <lunks> Got "/etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments<break line>: error: this program does not know how to configure the "10<break line>shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server<break line>Warning: Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe for vesa driver
[00:43] <lunks> Got "/etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments<break line>: error: this program does not know how to configure the "10<break line>shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server<break line>Warning: Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe for vesa driver
[00:43] <lunks> when starting x
[00:43] <Hobbsee> !repeat
[00:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:44] <lunks> Hobbsee: sorry.
[02:07] <bardyr> hey
[02:08] <bardyr> does http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git;a=commit;h=32a2128fde2b06c33cdd0f39354504c46ef3303f mean linux-2.6.24 is being pushed into the repos?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> it appears so
[02:10] <bardyr> :)
[02:31] <toby_> Is there an IRC for general IT questions?
[02:32] <toby_> really am stuck but they are not all Ubuntu related more IP internet and stuff i never hear of like:
[02:32] <toby_> What impact may Kazza have if running on a companies PC?
[02:34] <toby_> I guess that a no
[03:17] <bardyr> Tomcat_,  insecure network?
[04:29] <choudesh> !info dhcpd
[04:29] <ubotu> Package dhcpd does not exist in gutsy
[04:29] <choudesh> !info dhcp
[04:29] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5dfsg1-20ubuntu1.2 (gutsy), package size 109 kB, installed size 300 kB
[04:30] <choudesh> !info dhcp hardy
[04:30] <ubotu> Package dhcp does not exist in hardy
[04:30] <choudesh> why isn't dhcp package in hardy?
[04:31] <bazhang> changed to something else, checking now
[04:31] <crdlb> !find dhcp hardy
[04:31] <ubotu> Found: dhcp3-client, dhcp3-common, dhcp3-dev, dhcp3-server, autodns-dhcp (and 12 others)
[11:06] <oxigen> hi, did anyone here tried to install Hardy 64bit yet?
[11:08] <pvandewyngaerde> oxigen:  i upgraded my gutsy 64
[11:08] <oxigen> pvandewyngaerde: did you have some problems?
[11:09] <pvandewyngaerde> some libc segfaults
[11:10] <oxigen> pvandewyngaerde: do you think it's better to install .iso instead of upgrade?
[11:14] <pvandewyngaerde> iso gives you a fresh install
[11:14] <pvandewyngaerde> and possibility to install it on another partition, and not mess up your current installation
[11:15] <oxigen> what they mean by "update without checking what is to be updated"
[11:16] <oxigen> pvandewyngaerde: yes, i have two hd's
[11:17] <pvandewyngaerde> i dont know what they mean
[11:18] <oxigen> hmm
[11:19] <oxigen> is available 64bit java and flashplayer perhaps?
[11:20] <pvandewyngaerde> not available, emulate 32 bit
[11:21] <oxigen> aha, ok, thanks pvandewyngaerde, i'll stop bothering now :)
[15:52] <Lunks> Is it possible to install Hardy from the daily livecd?
[15:53] <Tomcat_> Lunks: Yes.
[15:53] <Lunks> Ok, tnx
[17:27] <seisen> anybody testing Xubuntu in VirtualBox?
[17:40] <h3sp4wn> seisen: ask the real question (that is a poll not a question)
[17:45] <seisen> In Xubuntu the terminal is discolored and runs slow and BulletproofX has no options to select
[17:45] <seisen> *from
[18:26] <BUGabund1> hya guys
[18:26] <BUGabund1> where can I report X11 errors from hardy?
[18:29] <stdin> !bug | BUGabund1
[18:29] <ubotu> BUGabund1: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[18:30] <BUGabund1> stdin: but I want some confirmation, before using LP
[18:31] <stdin> if you report it on LP then others will confirm if they have it. I haven't had any X problems so far..
[18:32] <BUGabund1> just some strange crashes with Firefox
[18:32] <BUGabund1> but seem related to X11
[20:45] <h3sp4wn> How can I easily get kde4 up and running (shouldn't have to do - aptitude install kde4$\~n\!~i) Or is all that stuff really 1270MB
[20:50] <FunnyLookinHat> h3sp4wn, well, even doing that won't give you much more than a developer sandbox
[20:50] <FunnyLookinHat> To be honest, the easiest way to get KDE4 up and running in a usable environment is through compiling the code via svn
[20:51] <h3sp4wn> FunnyLookinHat: that includes all the foo-kde4 apps
[20:51] <FunnyLookinHat> which are pretty essential to the desktop I would think
[20:51] <FunnyLookinHat> That's how KDE works, it's a big (somewhat bloated) package    :)
[20:51] <h3sp4wn> Exactly - aptitude install kde4$\~n\!~i (That gives me 1.2GB of kde4 stuff)
[20:52] <h3sp4wn> probably loads more than I need
[21:05] <cdm10> Has anyone run Hardy in VirtualBox? I can't seem to get the VBox Guest Additions for Linux to run properly.
[21:05] <cdm10> Also, my keyboard selection doesn't seem to stick
[21:19] <BUGabund1> question: how does one configure laptops touchpad using gsynaptics without xorg.conf??
[21:26] <BUGabundo> guys and gals how can I make my touchpad scroll work?
[21:47] <xorl_> Hey, what app manages ssh-keys in gnome?
[21:50] <BUGabundo> I use seahorse, xorl_
[21:59] <xorl_> well when I was running 7.10 I had my ssh-key in place.
[21:59] <xorl_> Now, when I ssh to stuff in hardy, it doesn't prompt me anymore and doesn't appear to be 'managing' my ssh-key
[22:00] <BUGabundo> yes, I've noticed that too
[22:00] <xorl_> but that is seahorse correct?
[22:00] <BUGabundo> I haven't been ask for my keyring pass naymore
[22:00] <BUGabundo> seahorse is not on the default install
[22:01] <xorl_> yeah, unfortunately, that's kinda of difficult
[22:01] <xorl_> i admin about 700 freebsd servers from my ubuntu machine and typing in my ssh-key password is a tad bit tedious
[22:01] <xorl_> lol
[22:02] <BUGabundo> I bet
[22:02] <BUGabundo> I have a script that mounts 4 servers via sshfs
[22:03] <BUGabundo> and now it just connects
[22:03] <BUGabundo> without asking for a pass
[22:04] <xorl_> hmm, my key is passworded so i have to type it in manually
[22:06] <BUGabundo> wait xorl_
[22:06] <BUGabundo> my lastest updates
[22:06] <BUGabundo> seem to popup a input box to insert pass
[22:06] <BUGabundo> but no keyring pass until now
[22:07] <BUGabundo> ahh you use pass! I use cert keys
[22:07] <xorl_> well i mean it would prompt me automatically for my ssh-key password without the keyring, but the keyring can't connect to it's daemon from a standard user it seems
[22:07] <xorl_> well my SSH keys are just ssh-keys with a password
[22:07] <xorl_> Nothing odd about that.
[22:08] <BUGabundo> pgp keys are really nice that way
[22:08] <BUGabundo> no need to use pass
[22:08] <xorl_> I just used to auth it once and the session manager (whatever it was previously called)
[22:08] <xorl_> well BUGabundo if someone gets your key, have fun with that lol
[22:09] <BUGabundo> i0ll have to revoke it
[22:09] <BUGabundo> and place a new one on the server
[22:09] <BUGabundo> same as a password
[22:09] <xorl_> that's exactly why i require passworded keys lol
[22:11] <humbolto> I heard the reason for Xen in gutsy sucking so much is, that gutsy's kernel version has not been patched by the xensource guys unlike the version debian etch is using for example.
[22:11] <humbolto> will hardy suck as much as gutsy as a Xen dom0?
[22:11] <humbolto> or is any help from xensource in sight?
[22:13] <Lunks> Can someone point me some website to know about that crypto stuff on /home etc.?
[22:13] <Lunks> I don't know how does it work, how to recover, how to set it up, but I'd like to know about it. :)
[22:14] <BUGabundo> do you mena the mounting of /home, Lunks?
[22:14] <Lunks> brb
[22:14] <Lunks> no, encrypt it
[22:14] <xorl_> BUGabundo: he probably wants to encrypt the /home partition yeah.
[22:14] <xorl_> Lunks: And recovery per say, if you nuke an encrypted partition that's like pandora's box
[22:15] <xorl_> lol
[22:17] <BUGabundo> I use encfs
[22:17] <BUGabundo> and even that I find it quite dangerous
[22:17] <BUGabundo> if something happens to the key or corruption
[22:18] <BUGabundo> i0ll never going to recover, what now I try to keep safe
[22:24] <Lunks> xorl_: that's the recovery stuff that bothers me
[22:26] <Lunks> the first and last time I tried using enc was on w2003 and after my hard disk started to failure, I didn't have another recovery agent than the administrator on the w2003 enviroment that failed, so I lost everything on the enc folder
[22:26] <Lunks> I mean, can I use encryption on Ubuntu so I can recover if something bad happens?
[22:37] <cafuego> Like say losing the password?
[22:44] <Lunks> cafuego: like I can't boot up on the ubuntu system I used /home
[22:44] <Lunks> I just have access to it from, say, a live cd
[22:45] <cafuego> Provided that livecd has the efs drivers, you *SHOULD* be fine.
[22:45] <Lunks> jok
[22:45] <cafuego> Honestly though, if it doesn't NEED to be encrypted, don't encrypt it.
[22:46] <Lunks> I don't know sh*t about encryption on Ubuntu, where should I look for info about it? =P