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| dholbach | good morning | 08:22 |
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| jussi01 | dholbach: Good morning Daniel! | 08:37 |
| * jussi01 gives dholbach a Huge hug :) | 08:38 | |
| * dholbach hugs jussi01 back :) | 08:38 | |
| jussi01 | :D | 08:38 |
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| jussi01 | Hello All. | 11:42 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: Hello. | 11:53 |
| jussi01 | agoliveira: Hi. do you know the process if I wanted to compile ubuntu mobile for arm? and if there are already arm images? | 11:54 |
| StevenK | If you wanted to compile Ubuntu Mobile for ARM, you'd first need to port Ubuntu to ARM, it isn't a platform we support. | 11:55 |
| jussi01 | StevenK: ummm...ok. | 11:56 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: The primary platform, at least at the moment, it's the Intel's LPIA which is x86 based. Personally, I want to port it to arm but as a pet project, not related to Canonical. | 11:57 |
| StevenK | agoliveira: It should be easy-ish, given Debian supports ARM | 11:58 |
| jussi01 | agoliveira: Cool. what is the process?? | 11:58 |
| agoliveira | StevenK: Yep. | 11:58 |
| StevenK | Easier than say, lool's toaster. | 11:59 |
| jussi01 | StevenK: isnt maemo runnng on arm (n800)? | 11:59 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: Well, basically get a arm based device, fix the kernel and try to compile the rest of the applications using crosscompiling generally. | 11:59 |
| StevenK | jussi01: Right, but that doesn't use Ubuntu. | 12:00 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: Yes, maemo is the the base of the nseries of web tablets. | 12:00 |
| agoliveira | I intend to get a Chumby to do that as the Nokia devices have some proprietary parts that would make difficult to port UME to it. | 12:01 |
| StevenK | agoliveira: Personally, I'd suggest you get a high MHz ARM box as a workhorse for the port. | 12:01 |
| jussi01 | agoliveira: I have a custom kernel running on an arm device. How does one go about cross compiling? | 12:02 |
| agoliveira | StevenK: That would be nice indeed but too expensive for me here. | 12:03 |
| jussi01 | agoliveira: I _may_ have access to one of those in the near future.... | 12:04 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: This is quite a lenghy subject to go over here but usually you have a x86 compiler that can produce arm binaries in this example. After compilation you test those binaries on the target device or an emulator. | 12:05 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: As I said, *if* I try something, it will be a pet project, just for fun, nothing serious. | 12:06 |
| jussi01 | agoliveira: ok. I need to continue something at work, but I will grab you to talk a little more in a little while. | 12:06 |
| agoliveira | jussi01: Sure. | 12:06 |
| jussi01 | :) | 12:06 |
| ian_brasil | jussi01: why not try to apt-get the ubuntu sources inside scratchbox and then compile? | 12:21 |
| Fenario | lool: Did you see my email from earlier today? | 12:44 |
| ian_brasil | agoliveira: whats a Chumby? | 12:48 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: http://www.chumby.com/ | 12:49 |
| lool | Fenario: Got it now | 12:50 |
| lool | Fenario: he's jussi01 here :) | 12:50 |
| Fenario | lool: what channel is jussi01 on ? | 12:50 |
| lool | jussi01: Fenario (Jon Melamut) is making himself available to contact you | 12:50 |
| lool | Fenario: He's here?! | 12:50 |
| Fenario | lool: how would jussi01 be on a Canonical channel? | 12:51 |
| lool | Fenario: Hahaha; the email ended in my "admin-cron" folder because of the subject line :) | 12:51 |
| lool | Fenario: This isn't a canonical channel; this is a public channel | 12:51 |
| lool | Fenario: We're in #ubuntu-mobile on freenode; /me waves | 12:52 |
| Fenario | lool: sorry I realived I am on the wrong channel :- | 12:52 |
| ian_brasil | agoliveira: way cool, i want one | 12:54 |
| Fenario | jussi01: ping | 12:58 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: I'm thiking about get one of those in January | 13:08 |
| jussi01 | Fenario: pong | 13:10 |
| ian_brasil | agoliveira: maybe we should import a load to Brazil and sell then from the Manaus free zone ! | 13:11 |
| agoliveira | ian_brasil: I know a few fellow geeks who would love one :) | 13:12 |
| ian_brasil | agoliveira: i imagine, they look awesome and pretty cheap too | 13:13 |
| jussi01 | Fenario: ? | 13:20 |
| Fenario | jussi01: hello | 13:21 |
| smagoun | StevenK: I saw you updated the spec for Java in UME. I recommend you not bother with IBM or Blackdown, and instead look just at the IcedTea VM. | 14:10 |
| smagoun | Blackdown effectively died several years ago, and IcedTea is the real thing. | 14:11 |
| smagoun | (Sun's JRE - not IcedTea - would be my first choice but I don't think the license is ubuntu-friendly?) | 14:12 |
| smagoun | Also, I think one key feature that needs to work is Java applet support, which requires a Java plugin for the browser. I'm not sure if any VMs do that yet, other than the offical Sun VM. | 14:14 |
| StevenK | Sun's JRE is not very friendly, no | 14:15 |
| mjg59 | We can distribute the Sun VM | 14:15 |
| mjg59 | It's non-free, but the same is true of Blackdown and IBM | 14:16 |
| StevenK | smagoun: I'll update the mini-spec to drop IBM or Blackdown | 14:16 |
| smagoun | (The IBM VM supports java 5 while Java 7 is on the way from Sun) | 14:18 |
| StevenK | smagoun: mini-spec updated, thanks | 14:18 |
| smagoun | cool | 14:19 |
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| raji | asac, You there? | 15:39 |
| smagoun | Hmm, more LPIA bustage - agoliveira's evince patches didn't make it into gutsy/LPIA: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/2.20.0-0ubuntu3/+build/403195 | 15:39 |
| * smagoun thinks the LPIA build queue needs a babysitter, this has happened a number of times | 15:40 | |
| raji | asac, How do I hack networkmanager to run wpasupplicant with -dd option.? | 15:40 |
| agoliveira | smagoun: Weird... I can see my patch on the source | 15:41 |
| smagoun | agoliveira: lpia build failed because of a dep problem | 15:42 |
| agoliveira | smagoun: Yes, libhildon-1-dev is missing and makes sense as it's a requirement for evince on LIPA. | 15:43 |
| agoliveira | LPIA | 15:43 |
| smagoun | ... | 15:43 |
| agoliveira | As a matter of fact, not many applications will build there with this one missing | 15:44 |
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| lool | smagoun: The buildd admins should be given back builds which are failing for some archive temporary problem and the uploader should be dealing with build failures AFAIK | 15:53 |
| lool | Looking at this build log, I think the buildd admin will deal with it | 15:54 |
| smagoun | lool: when? The failure is almost 2 months old. :) | 15:54 |
| asac | raji: wait a sec | 15:54 |
| smagoun | lool: Several other packages aren't correct in gutsy/lpia, like tasks and freetype1. It's a systemic problem that needs to be fixed | 15:55 |
| lool | smagoun: I wonder whether this build was attempted before ppas would pull from universe | 15:55 |
| lool | smagoun: It looks like the buildds would only pull from gutsy/main in the log | 15:55 |
| lool | smagoun: I don't know who's exactly supposed to look into missing builds; if you find out, I'm interested | 15:56 |
| smagoun | lool: I added an action item for tomorrow's meeting, I want to find out too. :) | 15:56 |
| asac | raji: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/nm_supp_debug.diff | 15:57 |
| lool | smagoun: But then, apart of StevenK, I'm not sure who would be knowledgeable on this during the meeting | 15:57 |
| agoliveira | smagoun: I remember that Tollef was looking into this. | 15:57 |
| raji | asac, thanks | 16:13 |
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| kyleN | davidm: ping | 18:32 |
| davidm | kyleN, pong, what's up? | 18:32 |
| kyleN | i got an email on the list from a fellow I met at UDS/cambridge and he's wasking about location-based activities on UME. | 18:33 |
| kyleN | not sure what to say, can you give me something? | 18:33 |
| davidm | Not sure what you are looking for? | 18:33 |
| kyleN | what will UME do to support location based apps liked GPS, if anything | 18:33 |
| kyleN | any API we might support, etc | 18:34 |
| davidm | Well some will have GPS's and we are planning on have gpsd in the build to support that. | 18:35 |
| davidm | Beyond that for hardy I'm not sure we have plans yet. | 18:36 |
| kyleN | is gspd an open source daemon package or something? | 18:36 |
| kyleN | s/gspd/gpsd | 18:37 |
| kyleN | i found it on wikipedia, thanks | 18:38 |
| davidm | NP, gpsd is quite handy since it will allow several applications at a time share the gps data stream. | 18:41 |
| kyleN | cool. And i just realized the email was to me and another fellow personally, not to the list. I responded withe the gspd info. | 18:43 |
| kyleN | The fellow was in the mobile room much of the week at UDS. | 18:44 |
| kyleN | usm7f5 | 18:46 |
| kyleN | wrong window | 18:46 |
| ian_brasil | kyleN: apt-get install gpsd :) | 18:47 |
| kyleN | thanks Ian! ;) | 18:47 |
| ian_brasil | geoclue can get location based info either from gpsd (if a gps device is attached) or from hostip.info ,plazes and other web based location services if not | 18:49 |
| ian_brasil | geoclue can also be used by any application that would like to use location information (YMMV with this though a.t.m) | 18:55 |
| ToddBrandt | asac: would you support a patch to network-manager-applet, that adds a file called "src/load.c" which mirrors the behavior of "src/main.c" but builds nm-applet into a hildon status bar library instead of an executable? | 19:29 |
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