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| bluec99 | anyone have luck with mythtv and WinTV-PVR USB2 Remote ? | 03:42 |
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| bluec99 | found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3676720 but unfort no /dev/lirc1 device: | 03:42 |
| bluec99 | ls -ld /dev/l* | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2007-12-01 00:23 /dev/lirc0 | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2007-12-01 00:23 /dev/lircd | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2007-12-01 00:22 /dev/log | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | brw------- 1 root root 7, 0 2007-10-21 03:58 /dev/loop0 | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 2007-12-01 00:22 /dev/lp0 | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | i guess starting from first step, how can I find what created lirc0 so I can blacklist it? | 03:43 |
| bluec99 | hmm, this leads me to believe lirc0 is already the correct device: dmesg | grep lirc | 03:46 |
| bluec99 | [ 70.844000] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 | 03:46 |
| bluec99 | [ 72.036000] lirc_i2c: chip 0x10005 found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) | 03:46 |
| bluec99 | [ 72.036000] lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 10 | 03:46 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | Hi, I am wondering if anyone has experience with recording HD Content. I am building a new PVR to record HD and SD content. I want to put a PVR500 and use HDHomeRun. Will this work? Also, I heard Intel Core2's are better to use then AMDs. Is this true? Also, does the video card matter as long as it supports the resolution of the LCD? | 15:42 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, the C2D's do seem to be better than the AMD's, a PVR500 and HDHomerun should work fine together, and for the video card, I'd recommend an nvidia card | 15:44 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | tgm4883 thanks for all your answers. 1 last question. I know HDHomeRun can record any unencrypted channels, so basically just the free local HD Channels. Can it also record ones if I order an HD package with my cable provider? | 15:46 |
| tgm4883 | It will not record any encrypted channels | 15:46 |
| rhpot1991 | there was a thread going in the mythtv users about HD options the other day, let me see if I can find a link | 15:47 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | Is there any way to be able to record HD channels, if I order the HD package from the provider? | 15:47 |
| rhpot1991 | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/303425 | 15:48 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, depends, if you live in the US you may be able to get them via firewire, but even then, you can only record the channels that don't have copy protection | 15:48 |
| rhpot1991 | MythbuntuGuest87: pretty much the only reliable way is to get a box from your cable company and IR blast commands to it | 15:48 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, you can't get HD that way | 15:48 |
| rhpot1991 | true, but its pretty much the only option as far as encrypted channels | 15:51 |
| tgm4883 | firewire | 15:51 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: do you have a hdhomerun? | 15:51 |
| rhpot1991 | ya but if they are encrypted firewire wont work, right? | 15:51 |
| tgm4883 | i wish, i bought my card before they had the hdhomerun | 15:51 |
| tgm4883 | wrong | 15:51 |
| rhpot1991 | also I have seen a lot of people saying firewire doesn't work on boxes too | 15:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | oh wow | 15:52 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | thanks for all the great info guys | 15:52 |
| tgm4883 | the box decrypts it, but the cable company can set a copy protection flag | 15:52 |
| tgm4883 | and for boxes in the us, they have to give you a working firewire port | 15:52 |
| rhpot1991 | well by law yes, but since when have cable companies obeyed the law? | 15:53 |
| * rhpot1991 points at comcast and its meddling with torrents | 15:53 | |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | Basically, go ask the provider if they serve encrypted HD Channels over firewire | 15:53 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | ? | 15:53 |
| tgm4883 | mine does | 15:53 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire#FCC_regulations | 15:54 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | ok sweet | 15:54 |
| rhpot1991 | MythbuntuGuest87: you can, but good luck dealing with CSA's who don't know anything that isn't on their screen, may have to escalate the call a few times | 15:54 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | yea, I don't even have TV right now | 15:56 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i am about to go to the comcast people and have them activate my cable | 15:56 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i have been without cable for like 3 months | 15:56 |
| rhpot1991 | let me know how the hdhomerun works with comcast | 15:56 |
| rhpot1991 | if you get one | 15:56 |
| rhpot1991 | I have comcast but only have SD now, been looking at a hdhomerun for picking up the digital channels | 15:57 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | well, if they allow good programs to be recorded over firewire, i may just go that route | 15:57 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i read the link tgm4883 sent, saying that upon request they have to give you a box with a working firewire port | 15:58 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | but it doesn't tell you if they have to give you the all the channels too | 15:58 |
| rhpot1991 | by law they have to, but they only have to allow access to the over the air channels IIRC | 15:58 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i see | 15:59 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | which you can get with just HDHomerun... | 15:59 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | w/o a cable box | 15:59 |
| tgm4883 | yes | 15:59 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | thanks for the help guys. I think am just going to go with a PVR500 for now, and just build the system to be able to support HDRecording in the future. Then just get the shows I want to watch in HD and just play it off the hard drive | 16:02 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | in mythvideo or something | 16:02 |
| rhpot1991 | you could test out firewire before you get the hdhomerun | 16:02 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | true | 16:03 |
| rhpot1991 | I would request a firewire capable box off the bat though | 16:03 |
| tgm4883 | yep | 16:03 |
| rhpot1991 | comcast is bad at getting back to you with things | 16:03 |
| tgm4883 | well you might not have to request it | 16:03 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | but then don't i have to request an HD box? or can i get the channels off a digital cable box? | 16:03 |
| rhpot1991 | I've been waiting for a technician to return for almost 2 months now, with random static in my low channels | 16:03 |
| rhpot1991 | they have looked at it 5 times already now with no results | 16:03 |
| tgm4883 | it depends on your plan | 16:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | shit, that sucks | 16:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | I am going to get just the cheapest digital cable plan | 16:04 |
| tgm4883 | digital classic is an HD box I believe | 16:04 |
| rhpot1991 | I think by law they are only required to give you firewire with HD | 16:04 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, what HD channels do you want? | 16:04 |
| rhpot1991 | so non HD digital boxes are not required to have them | 16:04 |
| rhpot1991 | or thats my understanding at least | 16:04 |
| tgm4883 | mine too | 16:04 |
| rhpot1991 | also the digital boxes they use here suck, I kept getting ones that overheated and wouldn't work for a day at a time | 16:05 |
| rhpot1991 | didn't help they were built in 1980 something | 16:05 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | umm really, just the local channels and discovery, but if i could record like Movies in HD i would totally pay for that | 16:05 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 16:05 |
| tgm4883 | ok then | 16:06 |
| rhpot1991 | I doubt you will get any premiums in HD ever | 16:06 |
| tgm4883 | unfortunatly you'll probably need an HD plan | 16:06 |
| tgm4883 | because of discovery HD theater | 16:06 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | would I be able to record discovery? | 16:06 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: are they required by law to tell you which channels you have access to? | 16:07 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | would I have to use firewire and see if comcast here allows for discovery theater to be recorded | 16:07 |
| rhpot1991 | or is it just hope that they aren't flagging or encrypting what you want and try it out | 16:07 |
| tgm4883 | IIRC i did receive the premium channels for a month, then my trial was up | 16:07 |
| rhpot1991 | premium as in HBO and the likes? | 16:07 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, i don't think they have to tell you, but i don't believe they are allowed to copy control the locals | 16:08 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, you should be able to get discovery, but again, that would be up to the copy control flag | 16:08 |
| rhpot1991 | does mythtv obey the copy controls? | 16:08 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, no, cant record them | 16:08 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, and yes, on the HBO and such | 16:08 |
| rhpot1991 | strange, no work around for that? | 16:08 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, is there a work around for DRM on linux? | 16:09 |
| rhpot1991 | hmmm I thought the copy control was just a flag | 16:09 |
| tgm4883 | well, a flag and a handshake | 16:09 |
| rhpot1991 | ah ok | 16:09 |
| rhpot1991 | do you have comcast or something else? | 16:10 |
| tgm4883 | comcast | 16:10 |
| tgm4883 | in the north west | 16:10 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | comcast south west | 16:10 |
| rhpot1991 | did you see sandvine effecting anything? | 16:10 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | well soon to be... i need to go out to them tomorrow and get cable | 16:10 |
| tgm4883 | sandvine? | 16:10 |
| rhpot1991 | Its my understanding that comcast doesn't operate the same across the board, as they buy out little companies and it takes a while for the technologies to be implemented there | 16:11 |
| tgm4883 | oh the torrent thing? | 16:11 |
| rhpot1991 | ya | 16:11 |
| tgm4883 | no, hasn't affected me here yet | 16:11 |
| rhpot1991 | well they kinda stopped doing it since the AP made a big deal out of it | 16:11 |
| rhpot1991 | being I had that effect me, I would think my cable might be more strict here too | 16:12 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, there is also one more issue with firewire | 16:12 |
| tgm4883 | if the signal for a channel is poorly broadcast, then it could screw up that channel via firewire | 16:13 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i see | 16:13 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i skimmed that table in the link you sent, and it seemed alot of firewire ports might have problems.... | 16:13 |
| tgm4883 | although majoridiot says that they don't like to do that and that a technician will usually fix that | 16:13 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i see | 16:14 |
| tgm4883 | MythbuntuGuest87, what you need to decide is discovery HD theater worth it | 16:14 |
| rhpot1991 | MythbuntuGuest87: you can prob get a 3 month deal on HD | 16:15 |
| tgm4883 | cause thats the whole reason for the firewire box and for the HD cable plan | 16:15 |
| rhpot1991 | then cancel it after that if firewire can't record the channels you want | 16:15 |
| tgm4883 | the local HD channels should be able to be received with a basic plan | 16:15 |
| rhpot1991 | my understanding is that a hdhomerun can get 1-100 in digital/HD | 16:16 |
| rhpot1991 | if they are offered in that | 16:16 |
| rhpot1991 | with any basic plan | 16:16 |
| tgm4883 | well basic expanded would be through the 70's | 16:16 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | yea, i don't think discovery is worth it | 16:18 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | I think I am just going to go with SD recording, but with a C2D and Nvidia Card to support the HDLCD TV. Then, if I want to add in the HDHomeRun later, I can always get it | 16:19 |
| rhpot1991 | you can always get your HD from other sources.... | 16:20 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | yea | 16:20 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | thats what i think i may do | 16:20 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i really only watch heroes | 16:20 |
| tgm4883 | which is excellent in HD | 16:20 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | but thats because I watch it at my friends place on his HD LCD TV | 16:20 |
| rhpot1991 | MythbuntuGuest87: using netflix for HD is another option | 16:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i think i would watch other shows, like the office .. etc in HD if I could at home | 16:21 |
| rhpot1991 | I think they offer HDDVD and bluray | 16:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i don't have a player | 16:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | for either | 16:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | nor netflix | 16:21 |
| tgm4883 | blockbuster online has both too | 16:22 |
| tgm4883 | in stores they only have bluray, but online they have HDDVD too | 16:22 |
| rhpot1991 | I am opposed to blockbuster online with their "free" in store option, which actually costs $1 per month | 16:22 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | i am going to wait for hddvd and blue ray computer players to come down in price, then I may put it in the PVR | 16:22 |
| MythbuntuGuest87 | Anyways, im out. Got to get ready for School and Work. Thanks for all the help guys. | 16:23 |
| keescook | *sigh* uk mirror came back... empty. | 18:47 |
| tgm4883 | keescook, what do you mean? | 19:23 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, what do you mean it costs $1 per month? | 19:23 |
| keescook | tgm4883: uk mirror came back up with rsync, and offered an empty iso directory -- so my mirror wiped all copies of mythbuntu. | 19:27 |
| keescook | i just finished re-downloading them from another mirror. | 19:27 |
| tgm4883 | strange | 19:28 |
| tgm4883 | bendailey, ping | 19:28 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883 check their plans, the plan with the "free" in store exchange is $1 more than the plan without it | 19:28 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, interesting | 19:28 |
| rhpot1991 | I'm on a netflix trial now, and so far I am liking it | 19:29 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, they must have changed that, i've been a member for a long time and it wasn't like that | 19:29 |
| bendailey | tgm4883: pong | 19:29 |
| tgm4883 | bendailey <keescook> tgm4883: uk mirror came back up with rsync, and offered an empty iso directory -- so my mirror wiped all copies of mythbuntu | 19:29 |
| bendailey | yeah Daviey needs to pull the isos from somewhere I talked with him this morning | 19:29 |
| tgm4883 | Daviey, ping | 19:30 |
| bendailey | I can go and shutdown rsync until he gets the images pulled in if he isn't around | 19:30 |
| tgm4883 | that sounds like a good option, i wouldn't want all our mirrors wiped | 19:30 |
| tgm4883 | mines still good, but will rsync within the next 2 hours i believe | 19:30 |
| bendailey | tgm4883: done rsync is shutdown if Daviey restarts the box it will come back though | 19:31 |
| tgm4883 | k | 19:31 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: I think its their response to netflix being cheaper, they prob added the no in store pickup later | 19:32 |
| bendailey | clear | 19:42 |
| bendailey | sorry wrong window | 19:42 |
| * tgm4883 shocks bendaily with 300 volts | 19:42 | |
| tgm4883 | nothing. up it to 400 | 19:42 |
| tgm4883 | clear | 19:42 |
| * tgm4883 shocks bendaily with 400 volts | 19:42 | |
| tgm4883 | we've got a rythm | 19:43 |
| * bendailey thinks tgm4883 is one funny guy | 19:43 | |
| tgm4883 | whoa, i just quick | 19:43 |
| tgm4883 | i only shut my laptop down 30 minutes ago | 19:44 |
| KjetilK | I just got my box up and running on mythbuntu (yay, thanks!) | 21:17 |
| KjetilK | first problem is that I have a FullHD LCD TV, and a GeForce 8500 GT card, but I'm only getting 1280x720 | 21:18 |
| directhex | what model screen, and how's it connected? | 21:21 |
| KjetilK | DVI to HDMI | 21:21 |
| KjetilK | It is a Elfunk screen | 21:21 |
| KjetilK | Identifies itself as "OEM 37'' TFT-TV (DFP-0)" | 21:22 |
| KjetilK | Some relevant logs at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2496/ | 21:24 |
| KjetilK | it couldn't be that I'm hitting my head into some HDCP sillyness of "degrade the resolution unless we know what's going on"? | 21:36 |
| directhex | KjetilK, garbage EDID data? | 21:55 |
| directhex | KjetilK, that's a common enough occurance. are you POSITIVE it's got an exact resolution of 1920x1080 (some screens can accept that res, but don't have that many pixels) | 21:55 |
| Pete_B | hi. I am trying to install mythbuntu 7.10. I have a Hauppauge Nova-T card. what do I choose from the 'capture card setup' - 'card type' menu option? I've tried your web site and can't find anything to help me | 21:58 |
| Pete_B | it's a PCI card | 21:58 |
| directhex | it's a dvb card | 21:59 |
| directhex | digital. whatever the menu calls it | 21:59 |
| Pete_B | DVB-T. when I choose 'DVB DTV capture card' (ver 3.x)' it says it recognises the card model but I can't 'scan for channels' on the subsequent screen | 22:00 |
| Pete_B | sorry, when I choose 'DVB DTV...' it doesn;t say it recognises the presence of the card. however when i choose 'mjpeg capture card' and some alternatives _then_ it says it recognises the presence of the particular model | 22:02 |
| Pete_B | I don;t see anything in the install guide to explain what this card is supposed to be called in that 'card type' menu option | 22:04 |
| Pete_B | surely this is a common card? | 22:07 |
| Pete_B | I'm upgrading from an earlier version. It would have been a million times easier if you guys had written it to just keep my settings and upgrade the software | 22:09 |
| directhex | yes, it's a common card | 22:19 |
| directhex | i use one myself | 22:19 |
| directhex | scanning should be fine | 22:19 |
| Pete_B | what 'card type' do you choose? (I agree, should be fine, this was easy last time with Mythbuntu compared with other MythTV distros) | 22:21 |
| directhex | 'DVB DTV capture card' (ver 3.x)' | 22:22 |
| directhex | anything else will absolutely not work | 22:22 |
| directhex | other things that won't work include using a software CAm emulator to access encrypted channels | 22:23 |
| Pete_B | 'DVB DTV capture card' is one of the options that doesn't recognise the card's presence. I've chosen to sinatll anyway so will go back now and have a try again. thanks for responding. | 22:25 |
| Pete_B | now that it's installed I get a response for 'DVB DTV capture card' with the chipset name where I didn't during the live CD run. Tho 'scan for channels' still claims the card can't be found. thanks for the help. I have no more patience left to continue troubleshooting this tonight. | 22:34 |
| Mersault | Did the weekly svn builds fail to build this week? | 23:57 |
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