=== Wckt2 is now known as WcktKlwn [03:42] anyone have luck with mythtv and WinTV-PVR USB2 Remote ? [03:42] found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3676720 but unfort no /dev/lirc1 device: [03:43] ls -ld /dev/l* [03:43] crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2007-12-01 00:23 /dev/lirc0 [03:43] srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2007-12-01 00:23 /dev/lircd [03:43] srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2007-12-01 00:22 /dev/log [03:43] brw------- 1 root root 7, 0 2007-10-21 03:58 /dev/loop0 [03:43] crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 2007-12-01 00:22 /dev/lp0 [03:43] i guess starting from first step, how can I find what created lirc0 so I can blacklist it? [03:46] hmm, this leads me to believe lirc0 is already the correct device: dmesg | grep lirc [03:46] [ 70.844000] lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61 [03:46] [ 72.036000] lirc_i2c: chip 0x10005 found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR) [03:46] [ 72.036000] lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 10 [15:42] Hi, I am wondering if anyone has experience with recording HD Content. I am building a new PVR to record HD and SD content. I want to put a PVR500 and use HDHomeRun. Will this work? Also, I heard Intel Core2's are better to use then AMDs. Is this true? Also, does the video card matter as long as it supports the resolution of the LCD? [15:44] MythbuntuGuest87, the C2D's do seem to be better than the AMD's, a PVR500 and HDHomerun should work fine together, and for the video card, I'd recommend an nvidia card [15:46] tgm4883 thanks for all your answers. 1 last question. I know HDHomeRun can record any unencrypted channels, so basically just the free local HD Channels. Can it also record ones if I order an HD package with my cable provider? [15:46] It will not record any encrypted channels [15:47] there was a thread going in the mythtv users about HD options the other day, let me see if I can find a link [15:47] Is there any way to be able to record HD channels, if I order the HD package from the provider? [15:48] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/303425 [15:48] MythbuntuGuest87, depends, if you live in the US you may be able to get them via firewire, but even then, you can only record the channels that don't have copy protection [15:48] MythbuntuGuest87: pretty much the only reliable way is to get a box from your cable company and IR blast commands to it [15:48] rhpot1991, you can't get HD that way [15:51] true, but its pretty much the only option as far as encrypted channels [15:51] firewire [15:51] tgm4883: do you have a hdhomerun? [15:51] ya but if they are encrypted firewire wont work, right? [15:51] i wish, i bought my card before they had the hdhomerun [15:51] wrong [15:52] also I have seen a lot of people saying firewire doesn't work on boxes too [15:52] oh wow [15:52] thanks for all the great info guys [15:52] the box decrypts it, but the cable company can set a copy protection flag [15:52] and for boxes in the us, they have to give you a working firewire port [15:53] well by law yes, but since when have cable companies obeyed the law? [15:53] * rhpot1991 points at comcast and its meddling with torrents [15:53] Basically, go ask the provider if they serve encrypted HD Channels over firewire [15:53] ? [15:53] mine does [15:54] MythbuntuGuest87, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/FireWire#FCC_regulations [15:54] ok sweet [15:54] MythbuntuGuest87: you can, but good luck dealing with CSA's who don't know anything that isn't on their screen, may have to escalate the call a few times [15:56] yea, I don't even have TV right now [15:56] i am about to go to the comcast people and have them activate my cable [15:56] i have been without cable for like 3 months [15:56] let me know how the hdhomerun works with comcast [15:56] if you get one [15:57] I have comcast but only have SD now, been looking at a hdhomerun for picking up the digital channels [15:57] well, if they allow good programs to be recorded over firewire, i may just go that route [15:58] i read the link tgm4883 sent, saying that upon request they have to give you a box with a working firewire port [15:58] but it doesn't tell you if they have to give you the all the channels too [15:58] by law they have to, but they only have to allow access to the over the air channels IIRC [15:59] i see [15:59] which you can get with just HDHomerun... [15:59] w/o a cable box [15:59] yes [16:02] thanks for the help guys. I think am just going to go with a PVR500 for now, and just build the system to be able to support HDRecording in the future. Then just get the shows I want to watch in HD and just play it off the hard drive [16:02] in mythvideo or something [16:02] you could test out firewire before you get the hdhomerun [16:03] true [16:03] I would request a firewire capable box off the bat though [16:03] yep [16:03] comcast is bad at getting back to you with things [16:03] well you might not have to request it [16:03] but then don't i have to request an HD box? or can i get the channels off a digital cable box? [16:03] I've been waiting for a technician to return for almost 2 months now, with random static in my low channels [16:03] they have looked at it 5 times already now with no results [16:04] it depends on your plan [16:04] shit, that sucks [16:04] I am going to get just the cheapest digital cable plan [16:04] digital classic is an HD box I believe [16:04] I think by law they are only required to give you firewire with HD [16:04] MythbuntuGuest87, what HD channels do you want? [16:04] so non HD digital boxes are not required to have them [16:04] or thats my understanding at least [16:04] mine too [16:05] also the digital boxes they use here suck, I kept getting ones that overheated and wouldn't work for a day at a time [16:05] didn't help they were built in 1980 something [16:05] umm really, just the local channels and discovery, but if i could record like Movies in HD i would totally pay for that [16:05] hmm [16:06] ok then [16:06] I doubt you will get any premiums in HD ever [16:06] unfortunatly you'll probably need an HD plan [16:06] because of discovery HD theater [16:06] would I be able to record discovery? [16:07] tgm4883: are they required by law to tell you which channels you have access to? [16:07] would I have to use firewire and see if comcast here allows for discovery theater to be recorded [16:07] or is it just hope that they aren't flagging or encrypting what you want and try it out [16:07] IIRC i did receive the premium channels for a month, then my trial was up [16:07] premium as in HBO and the likes? [16:08] rhpot1991, i don't think they have to tell you, but i don't believe they are allowed to copy control the locals [16:08] MythbuntuGuest87, you should be able to get discovery, but again, that would be up to the copy control flag [16:08] does mythtv obey the copy controls? [16:08] rhpot1991, no, cant record them [16:08] rhpot1991, and yes, on the HBO and such [16:08] strange, no work around for that? [16:09] rhpot1991, is there a work around for DRM on linux? [16:09] hmmm I thought the copy control was just a flag [16:09] well, a flag and a handshake [16:09] ah ok [16:10] do you have comcast or something else? [16:10] comcast [16:10] in the north west [16:10] comcast south west [16:10] did you see sandvine effecting anything? [16:10] well soon to be... i need to go out to them tomorrow and get cable [16:10] sandvine? [16:11] Its my understanding that comcast doesn't operate the same across the board, as they buy out little companies and it takes a while for the technologies to be implemented there [16:11] oh the torrent thing? [16:11] ya [16:11] no, hasn't affected me here yet [16:11] well they kinda stopped doing it since the AP made a big deal out of it [16:12] being I had that effect me, I would think my cable might be more strict here too [16:12] MythbuntuGuest87, there is also one more issue with firewire [16:13] if the signal for a channel is poorly broadcast, then it could screw up that channel via firewire [16:13] i see [16:13] i skimmed that table in the link you sent, and it seemed alot of firewire ports might have problems.... [16:13] although majoridiot says that they don't like to do that and that a technician will usually fix that [16:14] i see [16:14] MythbuntuGuest87, what you need to decide is discovery HD theater worth it [16:15] MythbuntuGuest87: you can prob get a 3 month deal on HD [16:15] cause thats the whole reason for the firewire box and for the HD cable plan [16:15] then cancel it after that if firewire can't record the channels you want [16:15] the local HD channels should be able to be received with a basic plan [16:16] my understanding is that a hdhomerun can get 1-100 in digital/HD [16:16] if they are offered in that [16:16] with any basic plan [16:16] well basic expanded would be through the 70's [16:18] yea, i don't think discovery is worth it [16:19] I think I am just going to go with SD recording, but with a C2D and Nvidia Card to support the HDLCD TV. Then, if I want to add in the HDHomeRun later, I can always get it [16:20] you can always get your HD from other sources.... [16:20] yea [16:20] thats what i think i may do [16:20] i really only watch heroes [16:20] which is excellent in HD [16:20] but thats because I watch it at my friends place on his HD LCD TV [16:21] MythbuntuGuest87: using netflix for HD is another option [16:21] i think i would watch other shows, like the office .. etc in HD if I could at home [16:21] I think they offer HDDVD and bluray [16:21] i don't have a player [16:21] for either [16:21] nor netflix [16:22] blockbuster online has both too [16:22] in stores they only have bluray, but online they have HDDVD too [16:22] I am opposed to blockbuster online with their "free" in store option, which actually costs $1 per month [16:22] i am going to wait for hddvd and blue ray computer players to come down in price, then I may put it in the PVR [16:23] Anyways, im out. Got to get ready for School and Work. Thanks for all the help guys. [18:47] *sigh* uk mirror came back... empty. [19:23] keescook, what do you mean? [19:23] rhpot1991, what do you mean it costs $1 per month? [19:27] tgm4883: uk mirror came back up with rsync, and offered an empty iso directory -- so my mirror wiped all copies of mythbuntu. [19:27] i just finished re-downloading them from another mirror. [19:28] strange [19:28] bendailey, ping [19:28] tgm4883 check their plans, the plan with the "free" in store exchange is $1 more than the plan without it [19:28] rhpot1991, interesting [19:29] I'm on a netflix trial now, and so far I am liking it [19:29] rhpot1991, they must have changed that, i've been a member for a long time and it wasn't like that [19:29] tgm4883: pong [19:29] bendailey tgm4883: uk mirror came back up with rsync, and offered an empty iso directory -- so my mirror wiped all copies of mythbuntu [19:29] yeah Daviey needs to pull the isos from somewhere I talked with him this morning [19:30] Daviey, ping [19:30] I can go and shutdown rsync until he gets the images pulled in if he isn't around [19:30] that sounds like a good option, i wouldn't want all our mirrors wiped [19:30] mines still good, but will rsync within the next 2 hours i believe [19:31] tgm4883: done rsync is shutdown if Daviey restarts the box it will come back though [19:31] k [19:32] tgm4883: I think its their response to netflix being cheaper, they prob added the no in store pickup later [19:42] clear [19:42] sorry wrong window [19:42] * tgm4883 shocks bendaily with 300 volts [19:42] nothing. up it to 400 [19:42] clear [19:42] * tgm4883 shocks bendaily with 400 volts [19:43] we've got a rythm [19:43] * bendailey thinks tgm4883 is one funny guy [19:43] whoa, i just quick [19:44] i only shut my laptop down 30 minutes ago [21:17] I just got my box up and running on mythbuntu (yay, thanks!) [21:18] first problem is that I have a FullHD LCD TV, and a GeForce 8500 GT card, but I'm only getting 1280x720 [21:21] what model screen, and how's it connected? [21:21] DVI to HDMI [21:21] It is a Elfunk screen [21:22] Identifies itself as "OEM 37'' TFT-TV (DFP-0)" [21:24] Some relevant logs at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2496/ [21:36] it couldn't be that I'm hitting my head into some HDCP sillyness of "degrade the resolution unless we know what's going on"? [21:55] KjetilK, garbage EDID data? [21:55] KjetilK, that's a common enough occurance. are you POSITIVE it's got an exact resolution of 1920x1080 (some screens can accept that res, but don't have that many pixels) [21:58] hi. I am trying to install mythbuntu 7.10. I have a Hauppauge Nova-T card. what do I choose from the 'capture card setup' - 'card type' menu option? I've tried your web site and can't find anything to help me [21:58] it's a PCI card [21:59] it's a dvb card [21:59] digital. whatever the menu calls it [22:00] DVB-T. when I choose 'DVB DTV capture card' (ver 3.x)' it says it recognises the card model but I can't 'scan for channels' on the subsequent screen [22:02] sorry, when I choose 'DVB DTV...' it doesn;t say it recognises the presence of the card. however when i choose 'mjpeg capture card' and some alternatives _then_ it says it recognises the presence of the particular model [22:04] I don;t see anything in the install guide to explain what this card is supposed to be called in that 'card type' menu option [22:07] surely this is a common card? [22:09] I'm upgrading from an earlier version. It would have been a million times easier if you guys had written it to just keep my settings and upgrade the software [22:19] yes, it's a common card [22:19] i use one myself [22:19] scanning should be fine [22:21] what 'card type' do you choose? (I agree, should be fine, this was easy last time with Mythbuntu compared with other MythTV distros) [22:22] 'DVB DTV capture card' (ver 3.x)' [22:22] anything else will absolutely not work [22:23] other things that won't work include using a software CAm emulator to access encrypted channels [22:25] 'DVB DTV capture card' is one of the options that doesn't recognise the card's presence. I've chosen to sinatll anyway so will go back now and have a try again. thanks for responding. [22:34] now that it's installed I get a response for 'DVB DTV capture card' with the chipset name where I didn't during the live CD run. Tho 'scan for channels' still claims the card can't be found. thanks for the help. I have no more patience left to continue troubleshooting this tonight. [23:57] Did the weekly svn builds fail to build this week?