=== Drazha461 is now known as Drazha [00:06] Hello, can anyone point me to any how tos for running GFS on 6.06? === Drazha85 is now known as Drazha === Drazha205 is now known as Drazha [01:44] hi all, something to think about (while i wander off for an hour) - does the idea of shipping a standard vhost template with our apache appeal to anyone else? the one i've been refining over the last few weeks should be pretty good for easy understandability/usability/ (security?), and i know i'd prefer to have had a template in sites-available then hae to work it out somehow [01:44] i'm thinking of fileing a wishlist for it to get included, but thought i'd ask here too [01:46] http://k-k.homelinux.net:81/~kgoetz/apache2-vhost-template.txt is the link, the .txt is so lighhtttpd doesnnt try and server it as binary :\ === Drazha732 is now known as Drazha [02:16] apt-get remove apache2 doesn't remove apache? [02:16] file are still present [02:17] apt-get remove ruby, everything kinda sorta not working... [02:21] apt-get --purge [02:23] Okay === Drazha212 is now known as Drazha === Drazha360 is now known as Drazha === Drazha334 is now known as Drazha === Drazha925 is now known as Drazha === Drazha257 is now known as Drazha === Drazha734 is now known as Drazha === Drazha12 is now known as Drazha [05:16] i want to running ubuntu-server with ejabberd (intranet IM), fax server (hylafax), VMware-server with 1 XP Pro, Apache2 WebServer + MySQL Server.. there are 25 users, access that server not frequently [05:16] what actually hardware specification i need? [05:16] 1st.. from processor, which one should i choose: Intel or AMD ? [05:21] CyberMad: either, depends on the price point === Drazha299 is now known as Drazha [05:29] Burgundavia so, Intel or AMD is ok? [05:29] does sempron LE-1100 1,9 GHz can make it? [05:38] CyberMad: why is the xp pro stuff on the same server as your jabber server [05:38] ? [05:38] I would split them out [05:42] because i don't want spend money for more pc [05:56] the paranoid admin is me says windows + server == bad [05:57] Burgundavia: Not paranoid. Realistic. === Drazha169 is now known as Drazha === Drazha855 is now known as Drazha === Drazha10 is now known as Drazha [06:48] Burgundavia i use that VMWare (XP Virtual Machine), just for remote desktop [06:48] so user can remote that PC for running windows application [06:49] CyberMad: that is crazy, tbh [06:50] keep your users away from your server [07:03] Burgundavia what do you mean? [07:03] Burgundavia that just virtual machine [07:03] what they can do? [07:26] CyberMad: if a user has a login on a computer, they can compromise it [07:26] for that matter, Windows has known bugs [07:26] and if somebody can get root on one of your servers... [07:32] hrm, are there any known issues running dapper on a HP DL380G5? It crashes here frequently === Drazha722 is now known as Drazha [07:38] call trace starts from bnx2_poll, which would suggest a bug in the broadcom driver === Drazha384 is now known as Drazha === Drazha582 is now known as Drazha === MenZano is now known as MenZa === Drazha380 is now known as Drazha === Drazha53 is now known as Drazha === Drazha23 is now known as Drazha === Drazha814 is now known as Drazha === Drazha705 is now known as Drazha === Drazha785 is now known as Drazha === Drazha91 is now known as Drazha === Drazha509 is now known as Drazha === Drazha206 is now known as Drazha === ember_ is now known as ember [14:18] hello everybody [14:18] anyone is using JeOS? I am moved my first steps into virtualization [14:19] basically jeOS is a sort of customized livecd? [14:22] No. [14:22] Customised install cd. [14:24] doktoreas: It's literally as the name implies... Just Enough OS [14:25] but i can add all package i need and then zip it and send to people? [14:25] to use with WMVare? [14:29] doktoreas: Sure. [14:29] thx soren.. [14:29] i'll give it a try [14:30] cause we need to set up a virtual machine every times..the idea is to built one with all package we need and then use that one === Drazha58 is now known as Drazha === Drazha898 is now known as Drazha [15:50] ubuntu server 6.06 will get 5 year's of security updates, right? [15:50] so, now, what happens if i install xubuntu-desktop on my server ? [15:50] will I get 5 year's of security updates ? [15:50] I guessed not; since xubuntu will only get 3years of updates? [15:51] and they use the same repositories [15:51] jens: desktop packages won't get 5-years of support - I think it is stuff in the server seed [15:51] ...that does [15:51] ok [15:51] or something close to that [15:52] so, if you install something on your server that is in a *-desktop package you won't get security updates for it? [15:52] right [15:52] for the last 2 years [15:53] that includes cupsys? [15:54] at least not updates as guaranteed by canonical. I assume that like with universe, community members will be able to put security updates out there for the last 2 years until the repository is put into archive mode [15:54] I think cupsys is part of the server seed, just not the gui admin tools, but you'd need to check [15:55] ok, thank you verry much [15:55] :-) [15:59] * nealmcb is VERY GLAD to be back on his nice laptop with his files and apps working again..... === Drazha10 is now known as Drazha [16:42] where do i configure how many logs to keep through syslog in /var/log and how big the files should be before it starts a new one, and also how do i make it stop gzip'ing the rotated logs? is this all done through logrotate.d? [16:44] the gzip part is all through logrotate [16:44] the rest of it may be as well [16:47] ok cool [16:47] is there a way to log all syslog stuff in a mysql db? [16:52] rodneykk: ask your question again, those two may know [17:01] strange... while installing jeos on vmware i specified disk as IDE, but installation wizard sees it as scsi [17:01] is this tutorial outdated ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOS [17:02] also I see busybox initially instead of ubuntu === Drazha264 is now known as Drazha === henrix_ is now known as henrix === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz === Drazha350 is now known as Drazha === Drazha223 is now known as Drazha [18:35] hi guys [18:35] anyone using a network install and a preseed file with apt-cacher?. [18:36] i keep getting told the specified mirror is not available or does not have a valid release file on it [18:36] Does it? [18:37] i just installed it [18:37] i can browse to it via http://10.0.2.131:3142 and get an apt-cache screen [18:37] Installed what? [18:37] Oh. [18:37] apt-cache [18:37] And can you see a Release file somewhere? [18:38] http://10.0.2.131:3142/se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release (if memory serves) [18:38] not exactly sure where i should find it. [18:38] ok let me look [18:38] ok that listed tons of stuff [18:38] maybe my problem is that I set it to use fiesty in the preseed === Drazha343 is now known as Drazha [18:39] what would the difference be? the ubuntu docs im following used fiesty [18:39] Should be the same (for your use) [18:40] What did you put in the preseed (w.r.t. the mirror to use) [18:40] d-i mirror/protocol string http [18:40] d-i mirror/http/hostname string 10.0.2.131:3142 [18:40] d-i mirror/http/directory string /ubuntu [18:41] d-i mirror/suite string fiesty [18:41] d-i mirror/http/directory string /se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [18:41] Try that instead of what you had. [18:41] ok [18:42] change the fiesty line to gusty? [18:42] What do you want to install? [18:42] this is all my testing leading up to deploying edubuntu on tons of machines [18:42] gutsy or feisty? [18:42] not exactly sure. to be honest ive been a network admin for 10 years running tons of windows servers, and linux experience has all been with CentOS server, never linux clients [18:42] whats the diff? [18:42] gutsy is new. feisty is old. [18:43] gusty it is then [18:43] Then you should put that. :) [18:43] makes sense then since im following a doc made for ubuntu 6.1! [18:43] There's no such thing. There's 6.06 and 6.10. [18:44] Which were released in June 2006 and October 2006. See the pattern? :) [18:44] 6.10 [18:45] I can't think of any of the basics that have changed in the preseed files. [18:46] ok [18:55] soren, looks like that was it thanks [18:55] so my next question then :) [18:56] I had setup a machine that authenticated all the users against my AD Domain [18:56] required changing quite a few files [18:56] i also install quite a few programs off the edubuntu cd 2 [18:56] how do I work that into this auto install? [18:56] add lines to the end of the preseed file? [18:57] There's late-command, that might do what you want. [18:57] ...and there's a setting to add packages, too. [18:59] know where there's some more info on that [18:59] all i see is this in the example [18:59] #d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential [19:00] oh , actually maybe its this: [19:00] #d-i preseed/late_command string apt-install zsh; in-target chsh -s /bin/zsh [19:00] so i just use apt-install for everything === Drazha684 is now known as Drazha === Drazha867 is now known as Drazha === joerlend is now known as XiXaQ [19:31] to do the AD stuff apt-get install samba krb5 winbind [19:53] rodpod, i had to edit a lot of conf files though [19:54] ok, towards the end of the install i got Cannot Access Security Updates [19:54] The security updates on securityu.ubuntu.com couldn't be accessed so those update will not be made available [19:54] then it says it Commented out entries for security.ubuntu.com have been added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file [20:03] any ideas? [20:05] Goosemoose: are you trying to do preseeds? [20:06] yes [20:06] already have it going through most of the install [20:06] but its stopped on the security updates [20:07] I know the answer to that . . . I think [20:07] sec === Drazha601 is now known as Drazha [20:08] ok, thanks [20:09] Goosemoose: from yesterday actually: [20:09] #ubuntu-server_0712.log:12:13 < proprietarysucks> so in your normal, redhat-style kickstart for ubuntu you can simply add 'preseed apt-setup/security_host string' anywhere [20:09] #ubuntu-server_0712.log:12:14 < proprietarysucks> that will simply disable the security updates [20:09] ok, but what if i dont want to disable them? [20:10] that's just for the install, reenable them after [20:10] i just want them to install properly, not sure why it's saying it can't access them [20:10] oh [20:10] this is going out for 250 school computers [20:10] so i want as much automated as possible [20:10] that will at least get rid of that error screen [20:11] can i set security updates to install automatically later? [20:12] what that guy did is mirror the entire security.ubuntu.com to something local . . . as that guy is the one working on something similar _right now_, I would suggest tracking him down [20:13] I just remembered him talking about it, I am not familiar with it personally ;( [20:13] ok, no problem [20:13] that will at least get me past this for now, i appreciate it [20:13] you want to install the system without updating during install? [20:13] i want it to update during install [20:13] but im getting an error [20:13] The security updates on securityu.ubuntu.com couldn't be accessed so those update will not be made available [20:14] then it says it Commented out entries for security.ubuntu.com have been added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file [20:14] im wondering if maybe it's a proxy issue [20:14] well, if they are unavailable...? [20:14] does anyone know if i need to modprobe ip_gre if im going to be allowing vpn traffic through iptables, or will it automatically load [20:14] although the rest of the package installed [20:14] yes, but why are they unavailable [20:14] rodpod: you need to enable it [20:14] rodpod: just add to /etc/modules [20:15] any ideas ivoks? [20:17] could be proxy or something... [20:17] though the rest of the packages pulled fine [20:20] interesting... [20:20] maybe proxy filters urls with security in it :) [20:23] try security_host XX.archive.ubuntu.com [20:23] preseed apt-setup/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com [20:23] this should work [20:28] add it anywhere in the preseed file? [20:29] hr=croatia? [20:29] right, croatia [20:29] that where you are? [20:29] you can do it on the command line [20:30] yeah, i'm administrating that archive [20:30] cool, i have a home on hvar :) [20:30] nice [20:30] my family is all from there, im in the US [20:31] doesnt work on command line, doesn't know the preseed command [20:31] shouldn't I add it into my preseed file? [20:31] you can, of course [20:32] d-i apt-setup/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com [20:32] ok so 'd-i mirror/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com [20:32] like that? [20:33] yes [20:33] no [20:33] ok [20:33] d-i apt-setup/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com [20:33] d-i apt-setup/security_host string [20:33] yeah ok [20:33] is there a us.archive.ubuntu.com would prob be closer [20:34] there is [20:34] i'm sure they have security archive [20:34] ok ill rebot this and try it again [20:35] be back in a few, grabbing lunch. thanks for the assistance [20:35] np [21:01] does ubuntu boot on via eden without any problems? === Drazha139 is now known as Drazha [21:22] ok this is funny [21:22] where in hell did the computer i just installed over the network using a pressed file get it's computer name from? [21:22] it copied it from another computer on the domain! [21:23] from dns [21:23] eh dhcp :) [21:23] how can i control that? [21:23] preseed it [21:24] could i have it actually ask? not answer that question in the process? [21:24] just comment that out? [21:24] I just name all my machines "ubuntu"... heh :) [21:24] right [21:24] sommer, haha [21:24] sommer, doesn't that cause a problem with dns? [21:24] if it copied it from another computer, your dns/dhcp is wrong [21:25] it's a computer that doesn't exist anymore [21:25] Goosemoose: I kid, I kid [21:25] but im sure the entry still hasn't timed out [21:25] sommer, ahh ok, phew [21:25] can i give it a new random name like Classroom-### [21:25] your dns has an entry for that ip [21:25] ivoks, im sure it does [21:25] wwouldn't clear itself for a few days [21:25] lease is set to a week [21:26] i also didn't get a gui [21:26] not sure where i screwed up there [21:26] must be with the default file [21:26] you didn't choose to install ubuntu-desktop by default? [21:26] looking up what i did now === Drazha598 is now known as Drazha [21:29] tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, desktop [21:29] that's it right? [21:30] isn't it ubuntu-desktop? [21:30] and ubuntu-standard? [21:30] might be, like i said these docs are from 6.10 [21:30] ok so i need ubunt-desktop then [21:30] tasksel --list-tasks [21:30] which deafaults to gnome ? [21:30] ubuntu-desktop [21:31] there's no task ubuntu-standard [21:31] those are packages [21:31] got it [21:31] i want edubuntu-desktop then [21:31] hmm, i see edubuntu-live there [21:31] that going to do something different? [21:33] ok made it tasksel tasksel/first multiselect edubuntu-desktop [21:33] or do i still need standard in there [21:33] ok made it tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard,edubuntu-desktop [21:33] you don't read? [21:34] i do [21:34] tasksel --list-tasks [21:34] i've found one damn doc! [21:34] yeah im looking at that list [21:34] i just not sure what the syntax is in the tasksel tasksel/first multiselect edubuntu-desktop command [21:34] there's no standard, right? [21:34] not in the list [21:34] thought it might be part of the command itself [21:35] like i dont know what tasksel/first means [21:35] im guess task selection which would assume more than one option [21:35] and sets the first to somethign [21:35] don't use tasksel [21:36] What should I use instead? I feel like such an idiot here, usually I can just look this stuff up! [21:36] preseed preseed/early_command apt-install ubuntu-desktop [21:37] is hardy 8.03 or 8.04? [21:37] or even better [21:37] put that anywhere in the preseed file (not sure if order matters)? [21:37] preseed preseed/late_command apt-install ubuntu-desktop [21:37] preseed preseed/late_command string apt-install ubuntu-desktop [21:37] that last one is correct [21:37] lol [21:37] ok [21:37] got it [21:38] sommer: 4 [21:38] ok, im commenting out the package selection line then [21:38] thx ivoks [21:38] Goosemoose: with late_command you can setup custom /etc/apt/sources.list [21:39] i setup a atp-cache server on the tftp server [21:39] so it should be installing off of that [21:39] apt-cache [21:39] preseed preseed/late_command string apt-install ubuntu-desktop; echo "bla bla bla" > /target/etc/apt/sources.list ; echo "bla bla bla 2" >> /target/etc/apt/sources.list [21:40] i see [21:40] got it, it's the last line at the very end [21:40] one long command for all the extra stuff [21:41] i created iso with auto install [21:41] with all the packages in it already? [21:41] so, i could take a look tomorrow and let you know how i did it [21:41] yeah [21:41] i had setup a machine exactly how i wanted it and wanted to do that [21:41] as setting it up to authenticate against AD was a pain in the arse [21:41] that should be piece of cake in 8.04 [21:41] but since there's 250 these need to install over network [21:41] yeah, not out yet though [21:42] well... [21:42] http://www.likewisesoftware.com/community/ [21:42] this works even now :) [21:42] don't worry, this is new stuff, released yesterday, if i'm not mistaken... [21:43] i saw presentation at UDS - great stuff [21:43] was gonna say, i just spent a week trying it the 'old' way [21:43] can it authenticate logins as well? [21:43] everything [21:43] i had to setup a pam module to query AD for usernames and passwords [21:43] nice [21:44] it integrates in PAM, yes [21:44] so, whatever uses PAM, works [21:44] is that what's going into 8.04? [21:44] yes [21:44] ok once i get this preseeding to work ill check it out [21:44] o0 [21:44] likewise looks nice [21:44] aptgettable? [21:44] fujin_: there is gutsy package on web [21:44] I hate pissing around with libnss-pam/libldap-pam etc [21:45] oic [21:45] cool. [21:45] it's not aptgetable, since it's 24h old :) [21:45] how stable? [21:45] http://www.likewisesoftware.com/bits/likewise-open_4.0.0-1likewise1_i386.deb [21:45] there's ubuntu version [21:45] what i've seen at UDS, works without problems [21:45] it has nice GUI [21:45] and also a CLI tool [21:47] somebody (coffeedude?) is working on likewise to be integrated into hardy, wants it released in repos beginning of January [21:47] right [21:48] he did the presentation at UDS [21:48] coffeedude rulez :) [21:50] bye all [21:53] later ivoks === Drazha619 is now known as Drazha [22:13] hmm i ended up with a software selection prompt [22:13] missed that in the pressed file somehow [22:13] asking what type of desktop, etc [22:14] i dont think ivoks idea worked [22:15] ok, added the tasksel back, lets see if it works === Drazha308 is now known as Drazha === Drazha173 is now known as Drazha === Drazha629 is now known as Drazha