[00:00] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, sorry I don't even know what you're trying to do. If it's just an xgl problem, you can post the contents of your xorg log file and xorg.conf at pastebin.com and let us know the url to the post. It will help diagnose your problem.
[00:00] <kitche> rangerguy39: you have to burn it to a cdrom
[00:00] <rangerguy39> yeah, i did
[00:00] <erUSUL> CrashOverride: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[00:00] <teknoprep> i don't get a splash screen now that i have everything installed.... wow this is really scrolling by quickly
[00:00] <rangerguy39> and then ran it off the cd
[00:00] <teknoprep> alot of ppl in here talkin
[00:00] <nickrud> CrashOverride: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[00:00] <Pelo> Chewy954,  you can resize your / partiton if you hae some room left in there and you can rezise the home after you get rid of the original install of ubuntu, you only need 5-10 gig to run the os itself, I'm at 3.5 gig right now with all the apps I need, the rest is 2xram for swap and 65 gig for /home
[00:00] <genii> ouellettesr: What make/model wifi card?
[00:00] <kitche> rangerguy39: so you rebooted your computer so it boots into Ubuntu?
[00:00] <hockeyfan5000> splash screen for what teknoprep
[00:00] <rangerguy39> kiche, no
[00:00] <rangerguy39> ill try that
[00:01] <kitche> rangerguy39: well it's a Operating System it's not a Windows/Mac program
[00:01] <Pelo> nickrud,  It think the reconfigure options need to be in capital letters
[00:01] <Chewy954> ok thanks Pelo
[00:01] <ouellettesr> genii they are both lynksys, one a wusb12 and the other a wusb54gsv4
[00:01] <nickrud> Pelo: no, lowercase
[00:01] <Pelo> Chewy954,  you might want to use the 7.04 cd, there is a bug in the partitoning tool in the 7.10 one
[00:02]  * nickrud consulted the man page quickly 
[00:02]  * Pelo decides to respect nickrud 's courage 
[00:02] <genii> ouellettesr: usb wifi is tricky, the driver that would work if it wasn't on the usb doesn't usually.
[00:02] <mikebeecham> is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?
[00:02] <pike_> what was that link for the ubuntu win32 installer that makes a ext3 formatted file in windows and uses windows boot manager?
[00:02] <maximander> hello, i'm having issues with mysqld segfaulting on start, brand new install of 7.10/amd64
[00:02] <kyle__> how do i use XChat?
[00:02] <mikebeecham> I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same
[00:03] <tony_math> I can't make any changes to the preferences in Synaptic Package Manager. It hangs and I have to kill it. Would an uninstall/install work or is there a way to reset all settings?
[00:03] <AngryElf> I've got a geforce 6200 and i'm only getting 3 resolutions to choose from despite selecting all of them in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, binary driver, any ideas what's going on?
[00:03] <mr__daniel> kyle__: I am not understanding your question
[00:03] <mr__daniel> kyle__: what you mean with 'to use'?
[00:03] <Pelo> pike_, you'll need to use google and the aplet refers to ext2 if I recall corectly
[00:03] <kilo> what happens when i connect a Lan cable into ISDN port? does it work anyway?
[00:03] <kyle__> do you just ask questions?
[00:03] <ouellettesr> genii I also have a linksys pcmcia card I can use, will that be easier?
[00:03]  * jsoftw is bored.
[00:04] <nickrud> AngryElf: run xrandr in a terminal, are they the same resolutions?
[00:04] <pike_> !fixres | AngryElf
[00:04] <ubotu> AngryElf: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:04] <erUSUL> !wubi | pike_
[00:04] <DM|> Anyone know how to change the resolution GDM loads on the login window?
[00:04] <ubotu> pike_: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[00:04] <mikebeecham> is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?
[00:04] <mikebeecham> I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same
[00:04] <LjL> !away > ajmorris|AFK    (ajmorris|AFK, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:05] <kitche> mikebeecham: well if you deleted the files your space should be higher but yes there is but it will write 0's to the drive so the files can not be recoverable
[00:05] <nickrud> kyle__: just ask away
[00:05] <genii> ouellettesr: with the wusb12 in does lsmod show prism2_usb as a module installed?
[00:05] <pike_> mikebeecham: you want to format it to a more linuxy format or keep ntfs?
[00:05] <ouellettesr> genii yes
[00:05] <genii> ouellettesr: Then it should be able to work
[00:05] <kilo> P l e a s e ....what happens when i connect a Lan cable into ISDN port? does it work anyway?
[00:05] <kyle__> okay i need everyones help with this one, i am running a AMD64 with an ATI X1650 graphics card and i want to use beryl without stuffing linux up like i did the past 5 times
[00:05] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, I'm using xchat. You use it the same way as mirc
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> quick question..i was watching a movie on my ubuntu box and it froze, what should i do? I have stuff open (irc, etc) that i would prefer not to restar
[00:06] <AngryElf> nickrud: both places have the same max resolution, that i'm using, but xrandr has a bunch more lower ones than the GUI does
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> t
[00:06] <mar1> I am having no end of trouble with DeVeDe in ubuntu
[00:06] <mikebeecham> pike_:  I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?
[00:06] <MoTec> kilo: you might let some smoke out... It will not work
[00:06] <genii> ouellettesr: Do you see a wlan0 device on the ifconfig command?
[00:06] <AngryElf> nickrud: er, and a bunch of the ones I selected with dpkg-reconf.... (and are also in xorg.conf) are not showing up in xrandr
[00:06] <kilo> Pilgrim': just kill the process
[00:06] <Xdange1> guys all of a sudden my hardisk is movin slow
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> i cant, the movie is stuck open full screen
[00:06] <Pilgrim`> no response from xwindows
[00:06] <hockeyfan5000> backup Xdange1
[00:06] <nickrud> AngryElf: ok, next take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log; near lines 300 - 400 there will be a section about monitor recognition, it's probably not getting the right horiz and vert freqs
[00:07] <kyle__> okay i need everyones help with this one, i am running a AMD64 with an ATI X1650 graphics card and i want to use beryl without stuffing linux up like i did the past 5 times....... and my graphics card is not running at the moment
[00:07] <Pilgrim`> tried control alt backspace, and a bunch of other variations
[00:07] <mar1> anyone know of a good program for converting DVD .vob files into smaller mgeg?
[00:07] <hockeyfan5000> kyle what is the issue your having?
[00:07] <kyle__> everything lol
[00:07] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:07] <hockeyfan5000> are you using 7.10
[00:07] <kilo> Motec: thanx it was a relly stupid question wasn't it? :)
[00:07] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, You will only get help that is as good as the questions that you ask. If you want to know how to use something, read the documentation. That's what it's for. If you have a problem, ask specifically about your issue. e.g. "How do I use the internet" is not a good question
[00:07] <Xdange1> when i enter my username and password from the login Gnome takes a while to start
[00:07] <AngryElf> which i'm trying to look up right now...
[00:07] <DShepherd> mar1, acidrip maybe?
[00:07] <pike_> mikebeecham: not sure you might sudo umount /media/whatever then sudo mount /media/whatever  but i dunno
[00:07] <MoTec> kilo: i've got an old isdn router up on ebay right now... :)
[00:07] <CrashOverride> how do I log in as administrator, I tried doing it from the normal login screen but it just sayd "Administrator is no allower to login from this screen"
[00:07] <HigH_5> DvdRip
[00:07] <mikebeecham> hmmm
[00:08] <kyle__> okay, thanks
[00:08] <MACscr1077> Hmm, how do i kick or ghost my regular screen name?
[00:08] <kitche> CrashOverride: login as your user and use gksu or sudo
[00:08] <ouellettesr> genii I don't see wlan0
[00:08] <Xdange1> i dont know could removing trackerd affect performance??
[00:08] <mar1> DShepherd: the problem is that the .vob files are on my hard drive and I cannot get those programs to look at them cause they want to open a DVD drive all the time
[00:08] <DShepherd>  MACscr1077 /ghost username password
[00:08] <HigH_5> Acidrip isn't working for me very well marl. Try DvdRip.
[00:08] <maximander> meh, anyone? i
[00:08] <rangerguy39> kitche, after the OS is on the cd-rom, what should i do with it?
[00:08] <kilo> Motec: not interested at the moment... i will buy a Lan card tomorrow...just flush the isdn card in the toilet ;)
[00:08] <mikebeecham> pike_:  thanks, I will ask again to see if anyone else can help...
[00:08] <kitche> rangerguy39: umm just boot your computer and it will load
[00:08] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, locate all relevant config files and log files because it's difficult to get you an answer without them.
[00:08] <mikebeecham> is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?
[00:08] <mikebeecham> pike_:  thanks, I will ask again to see if anyone else can help...
[00:08] <Xdange1> cause reading from memory is fast but from my hardrive is really slow??
[00:08] <rangerguy39> kitche, its not =\
[00:08] <mikebeecham> I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same
[00:09] <Chewy954> ( 19:01:59 ) ( Pelo ) Chewy954, you might want to use the 7.04 cd, there is a bug in the partitoning tool in the 7.10 one
[00:09] <genii> ouellettesr: try: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:09] <rangerguy39> is windows interfering with it?
[00:09] <Chewy954> Pelo: Im using acronis to partition.
[00:09] <nickrud> Xdange1: first think I'd look for is checking for your host name on the line with 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts
[00:09] <MACscr1077> Dshepherd: says its an unknown command
[00:09] <kyle__> my main proble is my graphics card..... its an ATI X1650 and i have the drivers for it, but when i run it the x server wont start
[00:09] <maximander> mikebeecham: shred
[00:09] <Pelo> Chewy954, what ever rocks your boat man
[00:09] <CrashOverride> what do I type in sudo to make me be in as root from bash
[00:09] <MoTec> kilo: aaah, i liked my isdn.. but that was long ago :)   so you have an ethernet connection now?  like at a company or college?
[00:09] <MACscr1077> Er, says ghost is
[00:09] <DShepherd> MACscr1077, what irc client are you using?
[00:09] <nickrud> Xdange1: mine got chewed up in the last update (again)
[00:09] <kitche> rangerguy39: then you didn't burn it right you need to burn the   .iso file as a image not put the .iso file on the cdrom
[00:09] <MACscr1077> miranda
[00:09] <Xdange1> nickrud; i'll try that
[00:09] <HigH_5> mikebeecham try with the Ultimate Boot CD, it has tools to wipe out the disk very thoroughly.
[00:09] <MACscr1077> But is swar i have used that command before
[00:09] <MACscr1077> swear
[00:09] <kyle__> i dont want to install without being sure it wont happen again
[00:09] <NYCThomasB> hey - i'm back.  my machine no longer sees ath0, my pcimcia wireless card
[00:09] <rangerguy39> kitche, can i query you?
[00:09] <mar1> anyone?
[00:10] <Xdange1> nickrud: i'm really afraid of these updates
[00:10] <HigH_5> DvdRip.
[00:10] <mikebeecham> High 5 I dont want to wipe the disk clean....
[00:10] <ouellettesr> genii I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: No Such Device
[00:10] <mikebeecham> pike_:  I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?
[00:10] <kitche> rangerguy39: not really my client doesn't support that really right now I haven't wrote the script to check for queries
[00:10] <DShepherd> sorry MACscr1077, i dont know much about miranda
[00:10] <Chewy954> Pelo: I go the simplest way possible right now, since im a bit sick, time is of the essence.
[00:10] <Chewy954> lol
[00:10] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:10] <maximander> anyone know how to start going about getting MySQLd to start? It just segfaults without saying anything
[00:10] <CrashOverride> how do I log in as root
[00:10] <kilo> motec: i have a fast adsl connection...now i have a piii with ubuntu on it but i found this isdn card inside...i want to connect this old good pc to my router to use ubuntu as p2p station
[00:10] <MikeH> When I try opening a file with totem, I get a "cannot determine type of stream"
[00:10] <mikebeecham> High5  I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?
[00:10] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, can you find your xserver log file? it should be somewhere near /var/log and be recognizably named. your X config file should be in or near /etc/X11/<xorg or XFree86>.conf
[00:10] <tony_math> kyle__ does that mean you only have a console? No graphics at all?
[00:10] <kyle__> there are two installs i use, one is Envy and the other is from the ATI site
[00:10] <mikebeecham> sorry pike
[00:10] <mikebeecham> lol
[00:10] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:10] <MikeH> is this a problem with codecs?
[00:10] <kitche> !root | CrashOverride
[00:10] <ubotu> CrashOverride: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:10] <Chewy954> CrashOverride: use su, but u gotta enable this in ubutu
[00:10] <AngryElf> nickrud: what file did you say to look in to find the horiz/vert refresh rates?
[00:10] <junkeR> hello everyone, when I put Ubuntu in hibernate my sound now skips and doesn't play correctly.  This is still happening after a restart/shutdown.. any fixes?
[00:11] <MACscr1077> Dshepherd : the error was from freenode, not my client
[00:11] <rangerguy39> okay
[00:11] <nickrud> AngryElf: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:11] <rangerguy39> so i should save the .iso as what?
[00:11] <Chewy954> im gonna make su possible for ubuntu :p
[00:11] <genii> ouellettesr: Bah, OK. Do you see an eth1 device where you know you have only 1 wired adapter then?
[00:11] <Chewy954> since i like using it lol
[00:11] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:11] <Xdange1> CrashOverride: you have to enable root login
[00:11] <kitche> !noroot
[00:11] <ubotu> Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[00:11] <kyle__> my graphics card is fine but when i runs the x server restarts as aoon as i logg in
[00:11] <Big_Slim> how do you accept files on this program?
[00:11] <Pelo> Chewy954,  you want 3 partitons , one for / for the os,  5-10 gig ext3,  2xram for swap in linuxswap Fs , and the rest for /home in ext3 preferbly
[00:11] <DShepherd> MACscr1077, ok but i don't know why this is not working for you. it works for me :-)
[00:11] <ouellettesr> genii, nope I just have eth0 and lo
[00:11] <MoTec> kilo: aah, okay.  yep, you'll need an ethernet card, then :)  if you want to get advanced you can get _two_ ethernet cards and make it your firewall, router, and server :)
[00:12] <CrashOverride> I'm making a root thing nayway, how do I enable root logon
[00:12] <astro76> !sudo | CrashOverride
[00:12] <ubotu> CrashOverride: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:12] <Seven_Six_Two> kyle__, copy the contents of both of those files to pastebin.com and when you've submitted it, paste the url here
[00:12] <DShepherd> !root | CrashOverride
[00:12] <ubotu> CrashOverride: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:12] <kitche> CrashOverride: it's in the links that ubotu been giving you for the past 5 minutes
[00:12] <Chewy954> Pelo: 2 swap partitions? and im keeping my orignal linux partition intact till I copy it over, then i delete it.
[00:12] <MoTec> ubuntu server is great for that, with some configuration, of course.
[00:12] <NYCThomasB> is there a "repair" like option that would reset my os to original install without messing up my files and file structure? (os is in own partition)
[00:12] <kitche> CrashOverride: but you might not get support if you enable root and do something stupid with it :)
[00:12] <kilo> motec: right... i suppose it would be great
[00:12] <naxa> I have to bach resize images. Is there a tool for this?
[00:12] <MACscr1077> Damnit, i cant get the newest ubuntu to work in Parallel =(
[00:12] <kyle__> thanks
[00:12] <junkeR> can anyone help me?  my sound card is dishing out sound that sounds like a skipping CD
[00:13] <kyle__> and i will try find that file
[00:13] <Seven_Six_Two> NYCThomasB, do you have backups?
[00:13] <Pelo> Chewy954,  2x ram for the swap , ie the swap must be tiwce the size of your ram
[00:13] <MACscr1077> Its having issues with my video card, which is odd because its a ati x800
[00:13] <kitche> junkeR: did you try rebooting to see if it fixes it or not?
[00:13] <NYCThomasB> seven six two: of the files? yes
[00:13] <maximander> anyone?
[00:13] <junkeR> yes
[00:13] <kilo> mtoec: now i go to rest some hours...it's 1.13 in the night here...
[00:13] <xTheGoat121x> I have returned
[00:13] <AngryElf> nickrud: there's nothing about refresh rates in my log file -- and the appropriate rates are within the ranges that are defined in xorg.conf...
[00:13] <MoTec> kilo: rest well :)
[00:13] <genii> ouellettesr: OK, perhaps add with admin privelege to /etc/network/interfaces   2 lines   line1:  auto wlan0       line2: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[00:13] <kilo> bye everyone :)
[00:14] <Seven_Six_Two> NYCThomasB, then restore from them.
[00:14] <nickrud> AngryElf: hrm, nvidia then? (I hear that nvidia-settings can help)
[00:14] <MoTec> naxa: you can use imagemagic... mogrify, specifically.
[00:14] <ouellettesr> genii ok ill try that
[00:14] <kilo> motec: one last question
[00:14] <CrashOverride> lol it's kool being in as root
[00:14] <genii> ouellettesr: Hopefully your access point is set to hand out dhcp numbers
[00:14] <CrashOverride> is my /root folder supposed to be empty
[00:14] <matttis> hi
[00:14] <Xdange1> ok i dont see any process using up all my memory or cpu usage, so why is my system moving so slow after the last update
[00:15] <nickrud> CrashOverride: it isn't, try ls -l
[00:15] <MoTec> naxa: mogrify -resize 1024x768! \images\*.jpg
[00:15] <naxa> I cannot edit my system menu. If i make a change, it disappears within 0.5 sec. can you help me?
[00:15] <kilo> motec: if i install ubuntu now without the ethernet inside...when i will do it tomorrow and start ubuntu, will it detect and install the new hardware or i will have to do some stuff?
[00:15] <nickrud> CrashOverride: erm, ls -a that is
[00:15] <naxa> MoTec: thank you! :)
[00:15] <naxa> I cannot edit my system menu. If i make a change, it disappears within 0.5 sec. can you help me?
[00:15] <kitche> CrashOverride: of course since root can't login by default it has hidden files once you login though
[00:15] <CrashOverride> kool now I can look at the root files
[00:15] <matttis> how can I make it possible to vote for electric sheeps ? (at the moment pressing a button kills the screen saver)
[00:15] <naxa> MoTec: is it lossless?
[00:15] <kitche> CrashOverride: you could look at them before also lol
[00:15] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:15] <MoTec> kilo: I'm not 100% sure
[00:15] <nickrud> CrashOverride: you could have already; sudo ls -a /root
[00:15] <gamdulo> hola
[00:16] <CrashOverride> w/e
[00:16]  * jsoftw has xfce4 looking all good :) 
[00:16] <CrashOverride> it's more 1337 using the root account
[00:16] <MoTec> naxa: reducing sizes of images _can't_ be lossless :)
[00:16] <NYCThomasB> seven_six_two: maybe i misstated - i want to reinstall os without having to relaod all of my saved files after.  files are on diff partition from os
[00:16] <xTheGoat121x> My Celeron M tends to run 10 degrees hotter in Ubuntu than it does in XP.... is there a reason for this, and a way to correct it?
[00:16] <kitche> CrashOverride: not really
[00:16] <CrashOverride> now it's kurt@ubuntu:~# instead of kurt@ubuntu:~$
[00:16] <CrashOverride> XD
[00:16] <kilo> MoTec: oh great... :| tomorrow i will have some good time then... i will have to put an old laser printer (serial) on it too...
[00:16] <matttis> !de
[00:16] <naxa> MoTec: yeah, sure... I mean if the jpg was a 100% quality, will the new jpg still a 100% quailty jpg?
[00:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[00:16] <nickrud> CrashOverride: what' really elite is running your ubuntu from a chrooted live cd ;)
[00:17] <MoTec> naxa: aah.. not sure, actually.. i'd think so, tho.
[00:17] <mr__daniel> CrashOverride: root previledges should only be used when they are really necessary
[00:17] <MoTec> kilo: good luck :)
[00:17] <genii> ouellettesr: after saving those 2 lines, try again sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[00:17] <MoTec> kilo: cups will do that just fine
[00:17] <CrashOverride> well I'm trying to be 1337 here so I'm doing it anyway
[00:17] <AngryElf> nickrud: thanx, forgot about that -- was able to bump it up one more res
[00:17] <AngryElf> thanx
[00:17] <kilo> MoTec: cups?? what's that?
[00:18] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: sudo passwd
[00:18] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: then su -
[00:18] <jsoftw> and then there we go.
[00:18] <MoTec> cupsd is the print server... common unix printing system
[00:18] <CrashOverride> w/e
[00:18] <Pici> !noroot | jsoftw
[00:18] <ubotu> jsoftw: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo
[00:18] <jsoftw> :\
[00:18] <kitche> Pici: doesn't matter sicne CrashOverride enabled it already
[00:19] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse>
[00:19] <Pici> kitche: /me facepalms
[00:19] <Sportsdude80> hi
[00:19] <jsoftw> !rootsudo
[00:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[00:19] <CrashOverride> I KNOW
[00:19] <jsoftw> *shrug*
[00:19] <Sportsdude80> is  anyone not useing opera
[00:19] <jsoftw> Hey I aint hassling you CrashOverride
[00:19] <CrashOverride> really you losers keep repeating that
[00:19] <CrashOverride> I don't care
[00:19] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: :\
[00:19] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: dude, settle.
[00:19] <kelsin> CrashOverride: then don't respond
[00:20] <naxa> MoTec: can you help me with this: I want to tell sed to delete everything before a href=" and after the next " symbol
[00:20] <MoTec> naxa: aaah... regular expressions hurt my brain :)
[00:20] <Sportsdude80> do they have mods here
[00:20] <kelsin> matttis: everything before the href=" including the href="?
[00:20] <ouellettesr> genii I get the same error SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[00:20] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:20] <NYCThomasB> Can someone help me get the wireless connection option back in my network settings window?
[00:20] <naxa> MoTec: i feel the same :) although there are very useful, actually... only hard to learn for me...
[00:21] <Sportsdude80> anyone have wpe pro
[00:21] <kelsin> sed 's/^.*href="[^"]*".*$//'
[00:21] <MoTec> naxa: regex is awesome..  sounds like kelsin is a pro :)
[00:21] <matttis> kelsin: you got the wrong one :-)
[00:21] <CrashOverride> !telnet
[00:21] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[00:21] <CrashOverride> epic lulz
[00:21] <CrashOverride> "telnet is not safe" LOL
[00:21] <kelsin> matttis: wow I REALLy go the wrong one lol
[00:21] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:21] <astro76> !lol
[00:21] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:21] <kitche> CrashOverride: it's not for a server
[00:21] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:21] <naxa> kelsin: thank you! :) um... hope that MoTec told me, i wouldn't notice that you're talking to me :)
[00:22] <MoTec> CrashOverride: are you just trying to stir things up here?
[00:22] <Kragnerac> ubuntu
[00:22] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:22] <Cabbage> MoTec: Duh. Come on, everything he's said screams deliberate trolling-for-the-lulz.
[00:22] <kelsin> naxa: hope it works lol, obviousyl test it before going around sed -i :)
[00:22] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:22] <Flare183> Can someone mentor me for the MOTU
[00:22] <graft> can we modify that ubotu message to forbid the use of lol and omg in absolutely all contexts?
[00:22] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:22] <Kragnerac> !lol
[00:22] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[00:22] <CrashOverride> lol
[00:22] <naxa> kelsin: ok :)
[00:22] <Cabbage> whut
[00:22] <Kragnerac> CrashOverride: heh
[00:22] <kelsin> Flare183: probably should ask in #ubuntu-motu
[00:23] <kitche> kam: it uses /dev/input/mice even if you don't have a mouse in your xorg.conf
[00:23] <Flare183> I know but i get no answer in their
[00:23] <CrashOverride> it's a script
[00:23] <CrashOverride> says lol back to anyone else saying lol
[00:23] <NYCThomasB> is there a command to restart ALL of my network connections and ports ?
[00:23] <CrashOverride> ..lol
[00:23] <Bearcat> hey folks
[00:23] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: you er... might want to turn that off
[00:23] <Kragnerac> CrashOverride: This is zer0c00l.
[00:23] <roomone> anyone im having trouble installing windows xp from ubuntu
[00:24] <CrashOverride> how did you know I was zerokool500
[00:24] <graft> roomone: haha
[00:24] <genii> ouellettesr: Bah ok. I'm not overly familiar with usb troubleshooting so I'd recommend the pcmcia adapter at this point unless another here can help further with the usb one
[00:24] <Menacie> how do i get 1680 x 1050 anyone? samsung monitor
[00:24] <Journeyman> is there a version of amarok made for gnome?
[00:24] <roomone> try to boot from disc it works but then it takes me to command prompt
[00:24] <graft> Journeyman: amarok will run fine in gnome
[00:24] <kitche> Journeyman: there is banshee which is for gnome
[00:24] <Bearcat> Journeyman: look at exhile
[00:24] <Journeyman> graft, mostly
[00:24] <kelsin> Journeyman: no, you could check out Rhythmbox, Listen, or Banshee if you really want a gtk player
[00:24] <Bearcat> Journeyman: exhile is a amarok clone
[00:24] <NYCThomasB> is there a command to restart ALL of my network connections and ports ?
[00:24] <Journeyman> Rhythmbox is the suck
[00:24] <ouellettesr> genii, you don't think I would have a problem with a pcmcia adapter?
[00:24] <genii> ouellettesr:I just had a disconnect/reconnect so last msg not sure you got:  Bah ok. I'm not overly familiar with usb troubleshooting so I'd recommend the pcmcia adapter at this point unless another here can help further with the usb one
[00:25] <Sportsdude80> I am online people
[00:25] <Journeyman> the problem with amarok is it doesn't work with my media keys
[00:25] <astro76> NYCThomasB, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:25] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas?
[00:25] <Menacie> anybody?
[00:25] <genii> ouellettesr: Since the pcmcia works as part of the pci it is less problemmatic
[00:25] <NYCThomasB> astro76: thx
[00:25] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: /etc/init.d/network restart will restart network interface, but you'll have to do that for a lot of different programs to restart EVERY port and that might not even do it if you use Network Manager to manager some devices
[00:25] <ouellettesr> genii, cool I think ill get one of them now
[00:25] <ciclo> hello, everybody
[00:26] <Sportsdude80> http://xat.com/clugbpenhguinfugnchgatbgox
[00:27] <Sportsdude80> http://xat.com/clugbpenhguinfugnchgatbgox come theyre now
[00:27] <base3> does anyone know how to stop update-grub from running at every reboot??
[00:27] <astro76> !ops | Sportsdude80
[00:27] <ubotu> Sportsdude80: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[00:27] <kam> kitche, http://pastebin.com/m6d9d0f8
[00:27] <kam> i do have a mouse, synaptics
[00:27] <kam> and touchscreen
[00:27] <kam> how do i stop it
[00:27] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[00:28] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: no apps running so not worried about ports.  issue is i disabled my ath0 and can't get to see it now. after the network restart iwconfig fails to see my ath0 but it is there.  thoughts?
[00:28] <ruben> woops. Weird glitch I had here
[00:28] <CrashOverride> root@ubuntu:~# mkdir /r00t./workspace./garbage.
[00:28] <CrashOverride> mkdir: cannot create directory `/r00t./workspace./garbage.': No such file or directory
[00:28] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: what did you do to disable the card?
[00:28] <CrashOverride> I'm trying to make a directory there
[00:28] <CrashOverride> why is it doing that?
[00:28] <maximander> anyone here familer with using gdb?
[00:29] <kelsin> CrashOverride: you can't make multiple directories in one command, add -p I think to the mkdir command?
[00:29] <Menacie> can anybody tell me how to edit to 1680 x 1050 resolution please :)
[00:29] <lunks> Can someone point me to nvidia black ttys factoid?
[00:29] <CrashOverride> ok
[00:29] <NYCThomasB> KELSIN: standby - getting cmd
[00:29] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:29] <jsoftw> CrashOverride: are you _trying_ to troll?
[00:29] <CrashOverride> no
[00:29] <CrashOverride> ..
[00:29] <lunks> !blackttys
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blackttys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:29] <void^> CrashOverride: mkdir -p. try to be less funny.
[00:29] <lunks> !blacktty
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blacktty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:29] <CrashOverride> It's for a remake of the movie 'hackers' I'm making
[00:29] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: probably need to remove (maybe) and reinstate the kernel module, modprobe -r <module>; modprobe <module>
[00:29] <ruben> ok. I cant restart shorewall. It returns: ERROR: No firewall zone defined in /etc/shorewall/zones
[00:29] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[00:29] <ruben> Terminated.   My zones file goes like this:
[00:29] <ruben> loc     Local          Local network
[00:29] <ruben> net     Net            Tinternet
[00:29] <CrashOverride> and I don't want to mess with the real root folder
[00:29] <allbert> has anyone hot konqueror worked with gmail?
[00:30] <Nighthawk420> hey im having a problem with evolution mail... every time i start it up it brings it up normally, but fullscreen... there are no close buttons or title bar  at the top of the window... i ahve gone through every setting and tried draggin it down but no luck... I have also synaptic uninstalled it and re installed  it but still nothing... Please Help.
[00:30] <allbert> hot-got
[00:30] <lunks> !pastebin ruben
[00:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ruben - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:30] <lunks> !pastebin | ruben
[00:30] <ubotu> ruben: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:30] <jsoftw> Nighthawk420: try thunderbird is all I can say. I found evolution to be quite buggy.
[00:30] <Menacie> please :(
[00:30] <alzamabar> I can't connect to MySQL. I installed it, set a new password when asked but now I can't connect
[00:30] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: that is what i am looking for.  enter as typed or do i need to replace what is in brackets?
[00:30] <jsoftw> alzamabar: mysql -u root  ?
[00:30] <kelsin> alzamabar: what command are you using to connect and what is it saying when it tells you you can't?
[00:30] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[00:31] <genii> alzamabar: use ip and not localhost
[00:31] <MoTec> darwub: don't repeat so quickly
[00:31] <alzamabar> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[00:31] <CrashOverride> ok what's the difference between ./ and /
[00:31] <ruben> oooh. sorry, didnt knew that
[00:31] <jsoftw> alzamabar: so it _is_ working.
[00:31] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: you need to find out what module is running your ethernet card, then you insert that in "sudo modprobe -r <module-name>" to remove and the same command without the -r to put back
[00:31] <Nighthawk420> thanks jsoftw
[00:31] <bruenig> CrashOverride, . means current directory
[00:31] <jsoftw> alzamabar: mysql -u root -p foo
[00:31] <jsoftw> alzamabar: mysql -u root -p  I mean
[00:31] <kelsin> alzamabar: add a -p to that command, without the password if you'r eon a multiuser system
[00:31] <kitche> alzamabar: it's not using the password you need to give mysql a password for the account when your trying to login
[00:31] <kelsin> alzamabar: and it will prompt
[00:32] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: that is what i am looking for.  enter as you typed or do i need to replace what is in brackets?
[00:32] <lex_> I appear to be having an issue with dvdrip; when trying to use the program I encounter: The movie has 171092.736 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation. I've checked the installs and even reinstalled them but keep getting this error. Any insight?
[00:32] <pike_> darwub: well i run hd content on a p3 600 with 380MB ram and an old 16mb graphics card so that is bad
[00:32] <XacaH> hi all
[00:32] <jsoftw> I thought -p never accepted passwords on the command line like that?
[00:32] <genii> please remember mysql needs to be run as user mysql
[00:32] <kam> how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf
[00:32] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: I just answered that question, you need to replace with your kernel module for your device
[00:32] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: sorry mistyped.  how do i find module?
[00:32] <MoTec> CrashOverride: also, files and directories starting with a . are hidden
[00:32] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: what card do you have?
[00:32] <jsoftw> genii: the daemon perhaps, but not the client
[00:32] <roomone> Can someone willing to help me im me i have a question about ubuntu
[00:33] <jsoftw> roomone: just ask
[00:33] <mrdigital> hi does anyone know how to get 720p hd in tv-out?
[00:33] <kelsin> !ask
[00:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[00:33] <alzamabar> mtedone@jemoslinux:~$ mysql -u root -p foo
[00:33] <alzamabar> Enter password:
[00:33] <alzamabar> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[00:33] <XacaH> how to do undo kickban in Kvirc? (on another server)
[00:33] <ruz322> can anyone recommend a program similar to iMovie that i can make simple photo slideshow videos with?
[00:33] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: smcwcb-g
[00:33] <kelsin> alzamabar: then you didn't set the password correctly
[00:33] <tony_math> Where does apt keep it's configuration files? The files where Synaptic Package Manager would store the entries in the Preferences dialog window?
[00:33] <genii> jsoftw: Perhaps it's just a bsd-ism then
[00:33] <jrib> ruz322: not sure, but try kino and pitivi
[00:33] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: is that a module number, or a brand?
[00:33] <tony_math> They're not in /etc/apt
[00:33] <alzamabar> How do I undo completely the mysql installation and to it again#/
[00:33] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: I meant *model
[00:33] <jsoftw> genii: huh
[00:34] <jsoftw> ?
[00:34] <ruz322> jrib: kino doesnt look like it's what i want, kind of complicated...
[00:34] <roomone> i have ubuntu install on my desktop and i want to erase it and istall windows can anyone help
[00:34] <kitche> alzamabar: when you do mysql -u root -p hit enter it will ask you for the password like it did enter your password there since I bet foo is not your password
[00:34] <pike_> alzamabar: sudo apt-get remove <packagename> --purge
[00:34] <XacaH> îò õóéíÿ :( øî æ äåëàòü áëÿäü.
[00:34] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: model#
[00:34] <jsoftw> roomone: just get your windows cd and boot up and start installer.
[00:34] <tony_math> alzamabar: how did you install MySQL? Using Synaptic? If so, just remove it using Synaptic.
[00:34] <NYCThomasB> Kelsin: SMC is brand
[00:34] <jsoftw> roomone: /join #windows.
[00:34] <lunks> Got "/etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments<break line>: error: this program does not know how to configure the "10<break line>shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server<break line>Warning: Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe for vesa driver
[00:34] <XacaH> how to do undo kickban in Kvirc? (on another server)
[00:34] <jrib> tony_math: why?
[00:35] <lunks> this is what i'm getting on ubuntu when trying to start x.
[00:35] <genii> jsoftw: Previously on freebsd I would need to issue something like su -c "mysql <whatever option>" mysql
[00:35] <pike_> !pastebin | lunks
[00:35] <ubotu> lunks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:35] <kitche> XacaH: umm same way that you undo a ban /mode <channel> -b <host>
[00:35] <jsoftw> genii: err... I run bsd all the time and have _never_ had to do that
[00:35] <tony_math> jrib: I can't make any changes to the preferences using the GUI. The application just hangs and I have to kill it.
[00:35] <cracker9009> /list
[00:35] <lunks> pike_: no X window here. :P
[00:35] <roomone> I boot through cd and it takes me to a command prompt because of some protection the computer reads
[00:35] <pike_> lunks: sorry thought you were going to paste your whole x log or something
[00:35] <jrib> tony_math: run it in a terminal
[00:35] <cracker9009> hello
[00:35] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: did you install it with ndiswrapper?
[00:36] <smookerPC1> hey ppls
[00:36] <tony_math> jrib: So right now I can't install anything since I can't remove the "proxy" setting in the preferences section of Synaptic.
[00:36] <lunks> pike_: No, I tried to make it only one line so it wouldn't flood. :)
[00:36] <kam> how do I set the <default mouse> to my synaptics device in my xorg.conf?  xorg creates a default because it says it doesnt have one.
[00:36] <jrib> tony_math: you can use apt on the command line
[00:36] <smookerPC1> how do i setup my subtitles to be shown in Cyrylic ?
[00:36] <MoTec> roomone: what you computer is doing when you're booting off of a xp install cd is totally unrelated to ubuntu, or whatever OS (or OSs) you might have installed.
[00:36] <jrib> !apt > tony_math (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:36] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: i was trying to but whatver i did lastnight mad the wireless card invisible
[00:36] <jimjam> Is there any way to eliminate the output caused by commands in a script?
[00:36] <alzamabar> k, I reinstalled (this time without password) and now it works fine. The --purge worked greatly. Thanx
[00:36] <XacaH> kitche: thanks for answer. but its dont help :( that people cant connect to server :(
[00:36] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: I'm confused, so it was working, then you tried to install ndiswrapper, then it disappeared?
[00:37] <jrib> jimjam: redirect to /dev/null
[00:37] <jsoftw> jimjam: /path/to/script > /dev/null
[00:37] <kitche> XacaH: well that's how you do it though :)
[00:37] <kelsin> jimjam: 1> to only redirect std-out and 2> to only redirect std-err
[00:37] <lunks> pike_: Could you please search ubotus factoids about 'black ttys' on nvidia?
[00:37] <tony_math> jrib: will do. Thanks
[00:37] <roomone> alright thanks guys ill come back if i have any questions.
[00:37] <MoTec> jimjam: scriptname > /dev/null
[00:37] <MoTec> dang, i'm slow :)
[00:37] <lunks> pike_: I believe it shouldn't be too hard, and could point me a direction.
[00:37] <jimjam> Thanks everyone. Is there any way to keep my echos coming through?
[00:37] <smookerPC1> How do i setup my Video subtitles to be shown Cyrylic (RUS/BG..)
[00:38] <Frederick> folks im having problems with ubuntu in a amd64 machine my xserver does not boot :/
[00:38] <jrib> jimjam: redirect to /dev/null
[00:38] <Sepheebear> lunks: what happened, you lost tty1-6 since gutsy?
[00:38] <tony_math> jrib: I saw the message. However, looks like my GUI application is broken.
[00:38] <Frederick> it says I got no permission
[00:38] <jimjam> jrib: Sorry, I meant I want them to output, but everything not to
[00:38] <jrib> tony_math: you haven't run it in a terminal yet
[00:39] <kelsin> jimjam: in your script redirect the other commands but don't redirect your echos
[00:39] <jrib> jimjam: huh?
[00:39] <jimjam> Oh, thanks kelsin
[00:39] <jimjam> and everyone else :)
[00:39] <lunks> Sepheebear: sort of
[00:39] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: sorry.  ndiswrapped was previously installed but not used.  last night i tried to install madwifi, that is where things went wrong. i think the folloing two commmands did it, but reversing them says there is no such device.  commmands were: sudo ifconfig ath0 down , then i ran, sudo ifconfig wifi down.
[00:39] <MoTec> jimjam: well... scriptname 2> /dev/null just stops 'error' messages...
[00:39] <jrib> jimjam: you only redirect what you don't want *inside* your script
[00:39] <XacaH> kitche: in Kvirc i do /opet, than /mode chennel +o , than do kickban on the nick from Kvirc menu
[00:39] <Frederick> I got an error on the xlog no devices detected
[00:39] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: so sudo ifconfig ath0 up, unfortunately does not work?
[00:39] <jimjam> Thank you everyone!\
[00:39] <tony_math> jrib: the problem is that at work, I need to set a proxy server connection, which I don't need at home. So, I normally make this change using the Preferences dialog window.
[00:39] <MoTec> Well yeah, and if you modify the script you can do the > /dev/null on the commands you want 'muted' only
[00:40] <jrib> tony_math: ok
[00:40] <Sepheebear> lunks: anything happen if you do `sudo modprobe fbcon && sudo modprobe vesafb`?
[00:40] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: yes.  says device not installed. something in the execution of madwifi install probably was the culprit.  i just want to reinstall networking piece of os if possible to get hat back to original state
[00:40] <jrib> tony_math: I mean, run the dialog from the terminal so you can look for error messages
[00:40] <lunks> Sepheebear: I did, managed to do with a hack using vesafb instead of nvidiafb, not I upgraded to Heron and X does not work anymore. It complains about not being able to start vesa driver, so I figure it must relate somehow. Now I want to go back to nvidiafb to narrow it down. :P
[00:40] <lunks> Sepheebear: I'm on the opposite way, but somehow I can't seem to unload vesafb. :P
[00:40] <MoTec> tony_math: i bet it's stored in one of the directories, starting with a ".", in your home directory...
[00:41] <Frederick> any help for me?
[00:41] <Sepheebear> probably something depends on it, do lsmod | grep vesafb
[00:41] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: well unfortunately I don't know what was running your card in the first place, but you can try "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[00:41] <jrib> !please > Frederick (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:41] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: sudo it of course
[00:41] <lunks> let me try
[00:41] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: standby thanks
[00:41] <tony_math> thanks jrib/MoTec, I'm still looking. I'm going to start Synaptic from a terminal and see what it spits out.
[00:42] <Menacie> can anyone help me with 1680 x 1050 resolution, i have samsung syncmaster monitor and nvidia 7600gs agp
[00:42] <lunks> Sepheebear: It outputs "vesafb 9092 1"
[00:42] <skyfalcon866> !aero\
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aero\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <skyfalcon866> !aero
[00:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:42] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: what should happen when i run that?
[00:42] <graft> anyone ever had issues with audio looping incessantly?
[00:43] <pike_> Menacie: google for horiz and vert settings for the monitor then gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and plug em in there
[00:43] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: ath0 should reappear
[00:43] <Sepheebear> lunks: and you cant rmmod it?
[00:43] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: ok iwconfig ing now
[00:43] <tony_math> jrib/MoTec: I ran synaptic from a terminal and when I made the change in the preferences dialog, the application just hung. No messages in the terminal window.
[00:43] <Sepheebear> how about rmmod -f ?
[00:43] <pike_> Menacie: are  you using nvidia driver?
[00:44] <jrib> tony_math: so you have to kill it now?
[00:44] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: iwconfig doen't even list ath0
[00:44] <lunks> Sepheebear: it says resource temporarily unavailable
[00:44] <g0th> hi
[00:44] <g0th> Somehow the desktop background is not set on my ubuntu
[00:44] <tony_math> Because Synaptic is misbehaving, Software Updates won't work.
[00:44] <sipsipclick> g0th, did you try to set it?
[00:44] <jrib> tony_math: you can use apt
[00:44] <g0th> whenever I start gnome-appearance-properties (no setting at all just start it) it is shown again
[00:45] <g0th> of course
[00:45] <kelsin> NYCThomasB: damn, then honestly I don't know what module was running your card before, you can try typing "dmesg" and seeing if near the end is an error about loading the ndiswrapper, unless it loaded fine without cards, I don't know much about ndiswrapper
[00:45] <lunks> Sepheebear: clearer: ERROR: Removing 'vesafb': Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:45] <g0th> I see it then again
[00:45] <ghost> hello all
[00:45] <MoTec> Menacie: modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, looking for lines starting with "Modes"... those lines will say "1024x768" "800x600" etc, already..  Put "1680x1060" first, right after the word Modes
[00:45] <g0th> then I even do gnome-session-save
[00:45] <g0th> but after the next login it's gone again
[00:45] <MoTec> tony_math: you
[00:45] <lunks> Sepheebear: when rmmod -f
[00:45] <MoTec> tony_math: you're not going to see output like that
[00:45] <ghost> I have got to say, I LOVE ubuntu. I return from a stint in Gentoo and I must say, blessed be the Ubuntu magic
[00:45] <NYCThomasB> kelsin: ok, well thanks for your time and efforts
[00:45] <ghost> It just works meets full customability
[00:45] <tony_math> jrib: how do I use apt-get to install the software updates?
[00:46] <ghost> tony_math: sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <jrib> tony_math: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade  (or apt-get if you prefer it)
[00:46] <teprrr> hello there. just wanted to ask if there's a page where one can watch the packages going to hardy and so on?
[00:46] <tony_math> MoTec: I see that now. There's nothing in /var/log to indicate what's going on.
[00:46] <ghost> tony_math: sudo apt-get update
[00:46] <Chewy954> is it safe to install ubuntu through vmware onto a partition to natively boot it?
[00:46] <Sepheebear> lunks: that's strange. and you cant modprobe nvidiafb
[00:46] <kelsin> teprrr: you can always search at packages.ubuntu.com, I don't know about any rss feed or anything
[00:46] <sipsipclick> g0th, have you tried other wallpapers or just the one? you could try creating a new user account for yourself
[00:46] <teprrr> ie. one could see pending packages and why they're pending and so on
[00:47] <teprrr> kelsin, yup, I know about p.u.c, but it doesn't have such an information :P
[00:47] <Sepheebear> lunks: how about if you explicitly blacklist vesafb and boot up with it blacklisted?
[00:47] <Pelo> sorry about that folks
[00:47]  * bruenig does not forgive
[00:47] <g0th> sipsipclick: I tried different wallpapers and I don't really wanna repeat all the settings for another user
[00:47] <ghost> How is the state of 'desktop effects'
[00:47] <g0th> shouldn't it be enough to reset certain properties/files?
[00:47] <Sepheebear> lunks: and include nvidiafb and fbcon in your initramfs
[00:47] <ghost> is it really just compis-fusion?
[00:47] <tony_math> jrib: Thanks :) Your comands worked. I had about 38 updates pending and now they're downloading and preparing for install.
[00:47] <anton__> Is there a player like foobar2000 in linux?
[00:48] <bruenig> ghost, yes
[00:48] <lunks> Sepheebear: just 'modprobe nvidiafb' seems to work. I have blacklisted it in /etc/modprobe.d blacklist and blacklist.framebuffer
[00:48] <kitche> ghost: it's compiz with compiz-fusion
[00:48] <lunks> Sepheebear: hmm any tip on messing around with initramfs?
[00:48] <lunks> I've never done it.
[00:48] <Sepheebear> lunks: but did you include the framebuffer mods in the initramfs?
[00:48] <ghost> what is the package for the configure app?
[00:48] <sipsipclick> g0th, no doubt.  unfortunately that's the easiest route with some of these gnome issues.  you could try running nautilus from the command line and see if you get any errors
[00:48] <lunks> Sepheebear: I haven't myself, AFAIR
[00:48] <anton__> Is there a player like foobar2000 in linux? With just one big window for 1 playlist? Not like amarok...
[00:49] <ghost> is it as robust as Bryle and Emrald was?
[00:49] <jrib> ghost: be more specific
[00:49] <kitche> !ccsm | ghost is one configure application
[00:49] <ubotu> ghost is one configure application: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:49] <mattep> ALguien habla español ¿
[00:49] <bill_k> anton__: VLC?
[00:49] <g0th> sipsipclick: I don't run nautilus at all
[00:49] <mattep> Me ayudan
[00:49] <mattep> xD
[00:49] <bill_k> !vlc
[00:49] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[00:49] <jrib> !es | mattep
[00:49] <ubotu> mattep: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:49] <lunks> Sepheebear: That's why I was looking for the black ttys tutorial, to revert it accurately.
[00:49] <anton__> bill_k: I want to use VLC for movies only...
[00:49] <sipsipclick> g0th, nautilus is your file/desktop manager in gnome by default
[00:49] <g0th> sipsipclick: I don't need a file manager
[00:49] <Sepheebear> lunks: try that, include fbcon and nvidiafb in "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules"
[00:49] <jshriver> konichiwa
[00:49] <lunks> Sepheebear: hah! that should be it
[00:50] <jshriver> how do you upgrade from fiesty fawn to gutsy gibbon?
[00:50] <bill_k> anton__: why?
[00:50] <mattep> #kubuntu-es
[00:50] <lunks> Sepheebear: vesafb is uncommented, and nvidiafb is commented out.
[00:50] <ghost> jrib: Like can I install profiles and new stuff?
[00:50] <lunks> Sepheebear: Thanks, I'll try it.
[00:50] <anton__> bill_k: Just feels better :P
[00:50] <Sepheebear> lunks: then make sure to run `sudo update-initramfs -u` afterwards
[00:50] <lunks> I should do updateinitramfs -u
[00:50] <jrib> ghost: for what? configure what?
[00:50] <lunks> yeah thnx
[00:50] <sipsipclick> g0th, if you aren't running nautilus then that's why you don't see a background.  if you really don't want it you can try using xsetroot or bsetbg at login to set the wallpaper
[00:50] <kitche> jshriver: gksu update-manager -c is the gui way
[00:50] <g0th> nautilus is quite slow and resource heavy so I deactivated it since I never ever used it
[00:50] <lunks> Sepheebear: Really appreciated. :)
[00:50] <ghost> compiz
[00:50] <bill_k> anton__: hah, ok.  I've just used vlc, mplayer, and amarok
[00:50] <g0th> hmm
[00:50] <g0th> ahh
[00:50] <jrib> ghost: compiz-config-settings-manager
[00:50] <Sepheebear> lunks: let us know how it ends up
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> !logs
[00:51] <jshriver> kitche, domo arigatu
[00:51] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[00:51] <g0th> so nautilus is responsible for the desktop background usually?
[00:51] <kelsin> g0th: well nautilus is what sets the desktop, so that's you're problem
[00:51] <Frederick> folks my x server is borked up
[00:51] <anton__> bill_k: Okok.
[00:51] <sipsipclick> g0th, under gnome yeah
[00:51] <kelsin> g0th: yes it manages the desktop in gnome
[00:51] <g0th> ok thanks
[00:51] <kitche> !english | jshriver
[00:51] <ghost> The Human Theme is all well and good, but I want to try out some newer stuff
[00:51] <ubotu> jshriver: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> !nautilus
[00:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:51] <g0th> I thought it was only a file manager
[00:51] <Frederick> and alt + fnumber is not giving me other terminals
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> g0th: it is
[00:51] <jshriver> sorry
[00:51] <ghost> Oh, and does anyone know if it will work with KDE4 when it comes out?
[00:51] <jshriver> gksu update-manager -c didnt work
[00:51] <g0th> well the desktop background hasn't much to do with file management
[00:51] <Sepheebear> ghost: have you tried some of the dark themes?
[00:51] <skyfalcon866> konqueror is a file manger/web browser
[00:51] <sipsipclick> g0th, look at xsetroot or bsetbg
[00:51] <g0th> thanks
[00:51] <ghost> Sepheebear: no, but I intend too
[00:51] <MoTec> Frederick: you might be able to kill it with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[00:52] <kitche> jshriver: you have to refresh update manager if it didn't auto refresh then there is a button at the top saying new release available
[00:52] <graft> ghost: it'll work with kde4, but kwin4 is going to have its own compositing effects
[00:52] <ghost> Sepheebear: where do you go for your themes?
[00:52] <Sepheebear> ghost: im currently running the ubuntustudio theme and I love it
[00:52] <ghost> graft: excellent.
[00:52] <Frederick> MoTec: I know but I need to set this crap
[00:52] <Menacie> MoTec
[00:52] <Frederick> I think I ghot issues cause it is a widescreen monitor
[00:52] <Menacie> i have just put 1680x1050 as first after modes
[00:52] <Menacie> still nothing
[00:52] <ghost> Sepheebear: link? I am curious about studio how do you like it?
[00:52] <jshriver> kitche, thanks tried it again w/o -c
[00:53] <Menacie> Modes		"1680x1050@60"	"1600x1200@65"	"1400x1050@60"	"1280x960@75"	"1280x1024@60"	"1280x960@60"	"1280x1024@75"	"1152x864@75"	"1024x768@60"	"1024x768@70"	"102
[00:53] <jshriver> running now :)
[00:53] <MoTec> You have to restart X
[00:53] <tpratt_> where can I get the KEY for the gos repository
[00:53] <kitche> tpratt_: gos repository?
[00:53] <kelsin> Frederick: ussually from the X console you have to ctrl-alt-F# to get to the other terminals
[00:53] <Sepheebear> ghost: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-theme ubuntustudio-icon-theme
[00:53] <MoTec> Menacie: also, make sure you find all the lines that start with Modes
[00:53] <tpratt_> oops
[00:53] <tpratt_> nevermind
[00:53] <jshriver> brb
[00:53] <graft> damnit... how do i keep my sound from looping all the time?
[00:53] <Frederick> kelsin: no
[00:53] <ghost> Sepheebear: I was also kinda talking about the distro
[00:53] <Frederick> kelsin: it does not work here gives me a completely black screen
[00:53] <graft> it's completely pointless having a sound card with this nonsense happening
[00:54] <kitche> !ubuntu-studio | ghost
[00:54] <ubotu> ghost: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[00:54] <Sepheebear> ghost: well im running pretty stock gutsy with just the ubuntustudio theme on top
[00:54] <ghost> ah got it
[00:54] <sipsipclick> graft, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2252946   ?
[00:55] <Sepheebear> ghost: but afaik ubuntustudio just adds a few apps, sounds, and graphics
[00:55] <ghost> fair enough
[00:55] <Sepheebear> ghost: no real core difference
[00:55] <Dankchild> hey guys, im running the livecd trying to change the size of a partition with gparted but it says its mounted, what do i do?
[00:55] <ghost> no kernel patches or anything like that
[00:55] <Sepheebear> ghost: no
[00:56] <kitche> ghost: ubuntu-studio kernel has a kernel patch for low latency
[00:56] <kelsin> Dankchild: I would download the gparted live cd and boot into it
[00:56] <Pelo> Dankchild,  gparted on the 7..10 live cd is a bit buggy, try the 7.04 live cd instead if you have it , if not right cick the partiton and select unmount
[00:56] <graft> sipsipclick: not quite like that... seems to only happen when the sound is stopped playing
[00:56] <kelsin> Dankchild: n/m my comment, I read your line wrong
[00:56] <ghost> kitche: really? why would't desktop have that as well?
[00:56] <astro76> Dankchild, right click in gparted and unmount
[00:57] <graft> sipsipclick: like, if i play something with mplayer, the last half-second will loop after it finishes playing. also the process will hang and won't die until killed
[00:57] <kitche> ghost: it's for audio programs a desktop doesn't really use low latency that much it's for sound not for networking
[00:57] <Sepheebear> kitche: i've never seen the ubuntustudio kernel package. where did you get it
[00:57] <kitche> Sepheebear: it's right int he ubuntu repos
[00:57] <sipsipclick> graft, is it just with mplayer?
[00:57] <ghost> kitche, I thought low latency processing was handy for a lot of things?
[00:57] <graft> sipsipclick: no, with anything
[00:58] <ghost> kitche: like gimp and diskcacheing and whatnot?
[00:58] <kitche> ghost: umm it's mostly for sound really and video processing when making a movie or recording audio and such
[00:58] <nokompranos> anyone had success loading the latest ubuntu on dell inspiron 6400 - my X never seems to work
[00:58] <Dankchild> astro76: i did that and it gives me an error saying cannot blah blah blah mounted.
[00:58] <Pelo> nokompranos,  what is the videocard on that comp
[00:58] <Pelo> ?
[00:58] <steven_laptop> setup up a new server and ordering parts tomorrow but have "A"? witch is better go Daul Xeon 3.0 or
[00:59] <kelsin> Dankchild: oh did you mean the ubuntu livecd? If you continue having problems I would go download the Gparted livecd, good one to have around
[00:59] <steven_laptop> setup up a new server and ordering parts tomorrow but have "A"? witch is better go Daul Xeon 3.0 or intel Exreme Quad
[00:59] <Dankchild> so ive heard, ill try that.
[00:59] <ghost> kitche hm. do you know of a good site I can read about the kernel's and specifically ubuntus? im sure its in the documentation site but I havn't found that. I want to build my own kernel on this box sooner or later to streamline it
[00:59] <steven_laptop> touchy fingers sorry all double posting
[00:59] <ghost> additionally I would like to speed up my boot process all together, Ubuntu boots much slower then my gentoo install did (but in ubuntu my stuff actually works lol)
[01:00] <Pelo> ghost,  go into menu > system > admin > services and uncheck all the services you donT' use
[01:00] <Menacie> MoTec, still no luck
[01:01] <MoTec> Menacie: are you using an ATI card?
[01:01] <ghost> Pelo, already did that
[01:01] <Menacie> nVidia
[01:01] <Menacie> 7600GS
[01:01] <ghost> Pelo but if i build a much smaller kernel with all my needed modules built in shouldn't that boot faster?
[01:01] <Netham45> "proxyDHCP offers were received. No DHCP offers were recieved."
[01:01] <Netham45> I'm getting that when trying to network boot
[01:01] <Pelo> Menacie, what are you trying to do ? boot the live cd ?
[01:01] <Menacie> no, i've installed ubuntu, but i cant get 1680 x 1050 resolution
[01:02] <xTheGoat121x> So my processor runs approx. 10 degrees warmer in Ubuntu than it does in XP
[01:02] <Pelo> ghost,  I'm not that leet ,  there wre a few articles on digg about speeding up the boot in ubuntu, try searching there and see if you can come up with anything
[01:02] <xTheGoat121x> so that the fan is on nearly constantly.
[01:02] <michael> Im attempting to dl NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run, seems simple straight off the site, but i think there is a command that would make it easier, anyone have an idea for a command or could walk me through the installation proccess so i could properly install it this time ^^
[01:03] <Pelo> xTheGoat121x, cpufreq might help   http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[01:03] <michael> Using Gutsy Gibbons-
[01:03] <ghost> hey is their any reason to run both apmd and acpid at the same time?
[01:03] <kelsin> ghost: Probably, but we're talking milliseconds here, the main thing to speed up boot is to turn off things you don't need, check out the /etc/rc2.d directory and see what is there that you probably don't want running all of the time
[01:03] <MoTec> Hmm, Menacie is gone
[01:03] <kelsin> michael: the restricted driver manager worked for me on my nvidia machines
[01:04] <Administrator_> is that posibale to replace win xp pro whit linux ubuntu for all usage?
[01:04] <eth01> turn of colour for grub load.
[01:04] <ghost> kelsin, hm... do you know of a good resource for reaserching the linux init process?
[01:04] <michael> ok, let me check
[01:04] <kelsin> Administrator_: depends on your uses
[01:04] <eth01> and 5 countdown.
[01:04] <Pelo> Administrator_, most of it , I haven'T realy used windows in over a year
[01:04] <ghost> kelsin that is a gray area for me
[01:04] <Pelo> Administrator_,  do you have any odd or very specialised apps you need to run ?
[01:04] <kelsin> ghost: no sorry :), but you def will get more use looking at what's started in runlevel 2 (the /etc/rc2.d dir) then researching kernel startup
[01:04] <Administrator_> old games , videos , voice files , surfing net?
[01:05] <Administrator_> old games , videos , voice files , surfing net?
[01:05] <ghost> kelsin, that sounds logical
[01:05] <kelsin> Administrator_: depends on the old games, but linux can definitely work with media and the net juts fine
[01:05] <Pelo> Administrator_,  old games you might need to run on wine if you realy want to play them , voice files I am not sure what you mean, I can play all videos I have, and I surfing the net is not an issue at all
[01:06] <ozzy> xd i've now down something
[01:06] <ozzy> and the sides are black :S
[01:06] <ghost> WOW there is a lot of stuff in there
[01:06] <michael> Kelsin_: ima try this and be abck in a sec-- needs restart
[01:06] <Administrator_> old games usually commandos 2 , stratiges games that aple to play with 32vga
[01:07] <ghost> kelsin, is it possible to 'comment out' these scripts? I assume there is some kind of rc config file
[01:07] <xTheGoat121x> Pelo, I already have frequency scaling set up.
[01:07] <Pelo> Administrator_,  you can try the live cd and give ubuntu a try without installing it , or you can install it and dual boot, a lot of ppl do that and try is out fully installed for a while
[01:07] <ghost> I don't want to delete these scripts as i wouldn't know how ot remake em
[01:07] <kelsin> ghost: you can use the update-rc.d program to manage them, and others
[01:07] <kelsin> ghost: the files in the /etc/rc2.d folder ar ejust symlinks to /etc/init.d
[01:07] <ghost> kelsin I thought that just adds and removes them...
[01:08] <kelsin> ghost: there are graphical utilities to manage it as well, yes it does just add and remove, and that's all you need to do to remove them from startup, it doesn't touch the original scripst in /etc/init.d
[01:08] <ghost> kelsin, i assumed its something like that... I just don't want to break a link to something i need
[01:08] <Administrator_> & what about cbt's?
[01:08] <ghost> kelsin oh excellent
[01:08] <kelsin> ghost: of course, but that's the full list of what is run at startup
[01:08] <ghost> Thanks
[01:08] <Pelo> Administrator_,  by default you cannot run windows app or games on any linux distro, but you can install wine ( which uses the windows api thingy ) and run most windows apps and games, specialy the older ones,  you can look your cames up on their site to know if they hvae been tried and the results,   www.winehq.org
[01:08] <ghost> like... ppp support...  who still uses modems in the age of home offices lol
[01:08] <Pelo> Administrator_,  cbt?
[01:09] <kelsin> you can also read the /etc/rc2.d/README file, it suggests a renaming method so you still even know what was there
[01:09] <Pelo> ghost, many ppl don'T have relaible or cheap hi-speed in their area you'd be surprised
[01:09] <ghost> Pelo, true true.
[01:09] <Administrator_> like cbtnuggets , learnkey
[01:10] <ozzy> i still cant get my resolution sorted:(
[01:10] <Administrator_> products
[01:10] <ghost> kelsin, would it be possible (im sure it is) to bind the launching of the bluetooth service to the hardware toggle script i made?
[01:10] <MoTec> Administrator_: if you have to run specific windows apps you're better off with windows... if you have flexibility about the app you run, and are willing to try alternatives.. ubuntu can easily replace windows for general use.
[01:11] <ghost> like, i want to start the service when i start the hardware and turn it off when not...
[01:11] <Pelo> Administrator_,  don't know what those are, but like I said you can always try to run wndows stuff on wine and see if it works properly, but we prefer to suggest you try looking for a linux alternateive, most of which are free
[01:11] <kelsin> ghost: yeah, you can always call those init.d scripts (as root) with "/etc/init.d/script-name start"
[01:11] <Pelo> ozzy, do you get a gui ?
[01:11] <SuperKonny> Hello, I am trying to use ssh -D for a SOCKS/HTTP proxy, but I am not understanding how to do so I don't guess.  I keep getting my current login .
[01:11] <ghost> maybe I should make that a forum post.
[01:11] <MoTec> Administrator_: And the package manager has a great deal of packages listed.. You can boot off of a live cd, explore what's available, easily, using the package manager.
[01:11] <jrib> SuperKonny: ssh -D PORT user@host
[01:11] <ghost> I should probably read more on init and bash scripting in general before I mess with that
[01:11] <dana_bad> everytime i open system -> preferences -> hardware information the program immediately closes
[01:12] <JonathanD> good evening
[01:12] <SuperKonny> jrib: I am wanting to so that people can use my server as a connection (proxy)
[01:12] <SuperKonny> jrib: not login to my ssh shell
[01:12] <Pelo> dana_bad,  you have an actual problem , this has been mentionned before but I ahve never seen a fix in here,  check the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:12] <SuperKonny> jrib: would that require something else ?
[01:12] <Administrator_> ok i there another than wine that run all app
[01:12] <Administrator_> ?
[01:12] <Pelo> ozzy,  I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[01:12] <ozzy> Pelo, yes i get a lot of different options to change resolution, just not 1680 x 1050
[01:13] <jrib> SuperKonny: yes, afaik
[01:13] <nixNewb> howdy, i just installeed ubutunu 7.04 server on a comp, how do i control it via ssh?
[01:13] <MoTec> Administrator_: windows
[01:13] <ghost> kelsin, does the built in 'session' gui app control what is found in the etc/rc2.d/ linkfolder?
[01:13] <Administrator_> yes
[01:13] <MoTec> That's the alternative to wine, if you must run windows apps
[01:13] <Administrator_> and whats x windows
[01:13] <ghost> nixNewb, you have to install the ssh server on the 7.04 server
[01:13] <alysh> hey people, is ubuntu sent any of you a big update pack about an hour ago? (00:00 PM)
[01:13] <Administrator_> ?
[01:13] <nixNewb> how do i go about doing that?
[01:13] <DIL> yea
[01:14] <Pelo> ozzy, ah , that is easy , open a terminal , type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   add the resolution you need to the list, respect the synatx , save, restart X ( ctrl _alt _backspace) and go back to the resolution dialog box
[01:14] <nixNewb> if i try sudo apt-get install ssh-server it asks me for the cd, i put in the cd, then it asks me for the ced
[01:14] <joseph> how do i look up my gateway adress in ubuntu...its ipconfig in windows
[01:14] <nixNewb> *cd
[01:14] <MoTec> x windows is the core graphical system used in linux
[01:14] <PriceChild> nixNewb, openssh-server
[01:14] <alysh> DIL: yea, to me? :P
[01:14] <nixNewb> joseph, ifconfig
[01:14] <DIL> ifconfig
[01:14] <joseph> no i tried that
[01:14] <joseph> it doesnt show gateway
[01:14] <ghost> nixNewb: I don't know off the top of my head but ~man openssh-server should give you all the info you need
[01:14] <AndrewB> JonathanD: woop!
[01:14] <DIL> yep
[01:14] <JonathanD> AndrewB: hello there.
[01:14] <MoTec> x windows it has nothing to do with the windows opeating system
[01:14] <kelsin> shono that only affects what is run when the gnome-session process starts up
[01:14] <jrib> SuperKonny: google "ubuntu proxy server" maybe
[01:14] <nixNewb> PriceChild, it then asks me for my cd, which i put in, but then it says the cd is invalid (even though I just used it to install the os)
[01:14] <Pelo> alysh, updates come and go , over the last week I have had severals, some very large  it is pretty normal
[01:14] <Administrator_> and whats x windows?
[01:14] <SuperKonny> I don't see how hard it is to install a HTTP proxy, I mean , the IRC BNC was easy
[01:15] <nixNewb> or should i be asking how do i update the apt-get resource list
[01:15] <PriceChild> nixNewb, remove the cd from your sources list (system > preferences > software sources)
[01:15] <kelsin> Administrator_: x windows is the software the handles gui apps in linux
[01:15] <Pelo> Administrator_,  the softare that controls your windows basicaly
[01:15] <Administrator_> like wine?
[01:15] <kelsin> Administrator_: it's the real low level code handling window creations and management
[01:15] <ghost> Administrator_: x windows is the 'windows' that your programs appear in. It is the graphical user interface (gui)
[01:15] <astro76> SuperKonny, the users will need logins to use ssh as a proxy
[01:15] <nixNewb> PriceChild, as server edition i have no gui, what file do i edit?
[01:15] <MoTec> In computing, the X Window System (commonly X11 or X) is a display protocol which provides windowing on bitmap displays.
[01:15] <trebaruna> Is there an easy way to tell forcedeth to take a specified MAC address if the one supplied by the motherboard is invalid (nForce4)? It gives an invalid one after suspend, and now the driver generates a random MAC
[01:15] <MoTec> wiki ftw :)
[01:15] <kelsin> Administrator_: wine is a copy of the windows api, not quite the same as X windows
[01:16] <SuperKonny> astro76: huh?
[01:16] <Pelo> Administrator_,  wine is a sort of emulator but not an emulator,   x is the part of the prog taht manages your graphics
[01:16] <nixNewb> found it online
[01:16] <nixNewb> thanks guys
[01:16] <nixNewb> /etc/aptsources.list
[01:16] <nixNewb> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <Administrator_> ok is there only wine for open win apps?
[01:16] <ghost> Administrator_: don't worry, it is a difficult conept to understand at first.  Like in windows there is a program called 'explore.exe' that is the X11 in linux
[01:16] <kelsin> Pelo: (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator! :)
[01:16] <MoTec> Administrator_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System more than you ever wanted to know about X
[01:17] <Pelo> Administrator_,  cedega is another one, but it  cost money, wine is pretty reliable
[01:17] <kelsin> Administrator_: wine tries to run windows programs, it will try and run any windows program with varying degrees or correctness
[01:17] <alysh> Pelo: Of course, but i'm suspected about my server for a while. First, i update on Bilgi University server (~100MB] half hour later, when i switch Intergania server i took one more 100MB too. Because of that i asked about updates. Is this normal and two updates are different packages, or first server is screwed?
[01:17] <komputes> Administrator_: crossover office but it's $$$, also vmware
[01:17] <SuperKonny> astro76: I tried ssh -D LocalIP#:aporthere , and it just gives me the ssh help again
[01:17] <dana_bad> Pelo: thanks
[01:17] <MoTec> Administrator_: Seriously... If you have to run windows apps, run windows.  If you don't have to run specific windows apps there are a great many alternatives that run great, instead.
[01:18] <Pelo> alysh, I just opened the upgrade manager and I have 22 aps available,  and I upgraded about 2hrs ago
[01:18] <rhpot1991> I have a box running gutsy (and mythtv) which randomly crashes for no good reason, maybe twice a month, I have checked syslog and there isn't anything of importance in there from the time of the crash (I can see a cron job that runs every 5 minutes, then a long gap of time till it gets a reboot signal), the only error in dmesg is this: ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found (which I read isn't a concerna
[01:18] <kelsin> SuperKonny: you need to add the machine you want to connect to after that, it can't really be used as a Proxy server
[01:18] <MoTec> rhpot1991: sounds like hardware
[01:19] <ghost> Administrator_: The only thing wine is really useful for is that odd application that does not have a opensource counterpart, and for older windows games
[01:19] <alysh> Pelo: thanks, anymore person took big update pack about an hour (or more) ago?
[01:19] <SuperKonny> kelsin: So I wont be able to use ssh -D , and then for my friends to put my IP#:port in firefox, etc , and use my connection ?
[01:19] <ghost> wine fallout2 ftw
[01:19] <kelsin> ghost: I run warcraft III and wow in wine just fine :)
[01:19] <Pelo> rhpot1991, check  sudo crontab see if there is anything in there taht shouldnT' be there
[01:19] <ghost> me too lol
[01:19] <MoTec> Administrator_: Give the live cd a try.. and explore the packages available.  It's very impressive :)
[01:19] <kelsin> SuperKonny: no
[01:19] <ghost> actually i never got wow working but that was a while ago
[01:19] <rhpot1991> sudo crontab is empty
[01:19] <ghost> back when you had to do custome patches and stuff
[01:19] <SuperKonny> kelsin: that is what I am wanting.
[01:19] <kelsin> ghost: it's really wasy now lol :)
[01:20] <MoTec> SuperKonny: ssh is not a relay or proxy
[01:20] <ghost> kelsin heh yeah but i broke my addiction to wowrocks
[01:20] <Administrator_> i want just few games i fav maybe 1 only i don't play games a lot & is crossover & cedega better than wine?
[01:20] <ghost> I play GW every now and again
[01:20] <kelsin> SuperKonny: you need to look at proxy servers, like Quid
[01:20] <kelsin> SuperKonny: I meant: Squid
[01:20] <SuperKonny> MoTec: Under the man ssh , I see that -D appears to be so
[01:20] <MoTec> Administrator_: wine will likely work, then for your game or two.. How about applications?
[01:20] <rhpot1991> I see this happening every 30 mins:
[01:21] <rhpot1991> De 4 19:09:01 ultramagnus /USR/SBIN/CRON[6309]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php4 ] && find /var/lib/php4/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php4/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm)
[01:21] <rhpot1991> Dec  4 19:09:01 ultramagnus /USR/SBIN/CRON[6311]: (root) CMD (  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -r -0 rm)
[01:21] <Administrator_> i try maybe 3 ditro from cd
[01:21] <Eds> Kelsin, I tried running wow with wine but I had a crappy frame rate. Lots of tearing when I was running foward and you could see the frames rendering horizontally down the screen
[01:21] <kelsin> ghost: actually same here :)
[01:21] <Pelo> Administrator_,  try wine first , since it is free , and look in add/remove menu, several games are there arlready for you to try and a few more on the net if you google
[01:21] <kelsin> Eds: were you running opengl mode?
[01:21] <ghost> kelsin; hawken deadeye
[01:21] <ghost> send me a request
[01:21] <MoTec> Administrator_: Right, explore the 'add / remove software' section.  lots of stuff to install and check out.
[01:21] <Pelo> Administrator_,  install ubuntu on a seperate partiton , you won'T regret it
[01:21] <kelsin> anyway dinner time :)
[01:21] <nixNewb> I got it working, thanks guys
[01:21] <ghost> I need to install it still
[01:21] <SuperKonny> kelsin: can that be installed without being root ?
[01:21] <nixNewb> I had to change the /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <Administrator_> i like specific games i don't play game usaly
[01:22] <Eds> Kelsin: Yeah I was, I also made the registry hack changes I had to do. Everything looked fine just went I ran alone I could see the render. Albiet I was using a 8800GTS which may or may not be supported
[01:22] <Administrator_> maybe fav just commandos 2
[01:22] <Administrator_> & maybe stratagy
[01:22] <SuperKonny> nixNewb: I like those Suddenlink commericals, "suddenly, we're connecteedddd"
[01:22] <rhpot1991> I'm working on the assumption that thats something php needs done, as I didn't add it to any crontab anywhere
[01:23] <Pelo> Administrator_,  neither do I , but like I said you can dual boot for a while and see if they work,  still have your widows install so you can go and play then if they don't , and worst case scenario you can always run windows as a virtual machine inside ubuntu to play those games
[01:23] <Pelo> Administrator_,  there are several alternatives
[01:23] <comicinker> as soon as I open a menu I cannot make a screenshot. is there a small trick, maybe?
[01:23] <Pelo> Administrator_, giving it a good try is the best thing you can do
[01:24] <nickrud> rhpot1991: if you look in /etc/cron.d , you'll probably see what was added
[01:24] <Administrator_> if wine dont meet what i need is a crossover & cedega maybe dose?
[01:24] <Pelo> comicinker, how are you trying to take the screenshot ?
[01:25] <comicinker> Pelo: with the print key
[01:25] <Pelo> Administrator_,  you'd have to ask in a crossover or cedega channel
[01:25] <Administrator_> thx
[01:25] <Pelo> comicinker, I was hoping you were using the app, let me try
[01:25] <MoTec> SuperKonny: You using something like: ssh -D 8888 remote.host.name
[01:25] <Bikerbob> anyone here help with fglrx on ubuntu?
[01:25] <Pelo> comicinker,  doesnt, work for me either
[01:26] <Administrator_> whats more stable ubuntu 7.10 or ubuntu 7.04
[01:26] <ghost> Oh ntfs support is already installed on 7.10, how strong is it now?  I currently have a 60gig Vista partition and a 25 gig ubuntu partition... I need the Vista one the larger simply because Games are huge these days... my hope though was to use that partition for storage for both OS's
[01:26] <comicinker> Pelo: didn't know about that app. thats it. thanks!
[01:26] <rhpot1991> purges hanging php sessions it seems
[01:26] <rhpot1991> in /etc/cron.d I have php4, php5, anacron, and mdadm
[01:26] <dana_bad> ghost: i write to my ntfs partitions all the tiem
[01:26] <rhpot1991> all seem normal
[01:26] <sethk> ghost, as you know, reading from the ntfs partition is not a problem.
[01:26] <Pelo> Administrator_,  7.10 is the latest, it is very stable for most ppl , a few seem to have dificulties but that happens in every release , it is usualy caused by hardware issues
[01:27] <ghost> the only thing yo ucan't do is change permissions right?
[01:27] <sethk> ghost, the write that is considered reliable more or less runs in an emulation engine, I believe
[01:27] <ghost> because NTFS has that whacked out permission's scheme
[01:27] <sethk> ghost, yes, that's true.
[01:27] <Phill> Ok; I'm trying to edit my mouse behavior so it's like a middle click (it's this extra button) how can I go about doing that, I think it's possible with xvkbd, xmodmap and xf86-input - all installed.
[01:27] <rhpot1991> if hardware was failing shouldn't there be some sort of error at some point?
[01:27] <Administrator_> is it beter than 7.04
[01:27] <xTheGoat121x> So my CPU frequency is set up properly, but I'm still getting a fan that turns on every 30 seconds or so
[01:27] <Administrator_> ?
[01:27] <sethk> ghost, the point is not so much that it is whacked out, rather M$ won't release the details.
[01:27] <rhpot1991> I ran smartctrl on the root drive today, checked out fine
[01:27] <dana_bad> ghost:  and sethk: you cant edit any file meta data to my knowledge
[01:27] <Batlas> Anyone know if Macromedia has some 64 bit support for flash yet?
[01:28] <rhpot1991> I believe I have run memtest on this box before, though I can try again
[01:28] <Phill> The button; can be configured like so...
[01:28] <ghost> now i know it works all and well good in NTFS, but as I understand Vista is using a newer version of NTFS?
[01:28] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, that's not necessarily a problem
[01:28] <Phill> xmodmap -e "keycode 122 = F5"
[01:28] <Pelo> Administrator_,  I think so , but the default theme could use a little work,  it's not a problem anyway youcan change theme pretty easily
[01:28] <Phill> My main problem; is if someoen can tell me what the middle click "key" is.
[01:28] <sethk> ghost, I didn't think so about vista, but this is #ubuntu and I'm hardly a vista expert
[01:28] <nickrud> rhpot1991: if it's a box, reset all cards,chips, and cables. Worked for me over half the time
[01:28] <stib> Hi all - I made a backup of my linux root partition using dd, before wiping the drive. Now I've restored the drive but I can't install grub. One thing I noticed that the drive numbers have all incremented, so instead of it being on sda2 the linux partition is now sda5. Could that be my problem?
[01:29] <Administrator_> ok how much size for swap i need?
[01:29] <ghost> Basically I just want to store my large data in that partition... music and movies, etc, that way I can have access to both
[01:29] <Pelo> !grub | stib
[01:29] <ubotu> stib: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:29] <ghost> from what I am hearing that should be perfectly suitable
[01:29] <sethk> rhpot1991, memtest86 has major improvements.  Nevertheless, testing memory effectively is close to impossible
[01:29] <rhpot1991> I guess I'll try that out and then make a forum post with my syslog and dmesg if it dies again
[01:29] <Pelo> Administrator_,  2x RAM
[01:29] <rhpot1991> I can always get my ram replaced too
[01:29] <Phill> So basically; all I need is someone to go to terminal and type in... "xbindkeys -k" click middle click; and tell me what it returns.
[01:29] <sethk> ghost, you can certainly read the files from linux.
[01:29] <Pelo> Administrator_,  you can let the isntaller take care of that
[01:29] <sethk> ghost, so if you don't mind writing them in vista, you are set
[01:29] <sethk> ghost, obviously that's not a real solution
[01:29] <SpookyET> hi
[01:29] <ghost> I would want to write
[01:29] <rhpot1991> crucial lifetime warranty and all
[01:30] <ghost> right right thats like terrible
[01:30] <stib> Pelo: I've run the grub installer from my install disk, but it dies with a fatal error
[01:30] <ari_stress> morning all
[01:30] <SpookyET> Does tracker index pdf files. I can't find any of my stuff.
[01:30] <Pelo> stib,  wht is the error ?
[01:30] <dana_bad> ghost: as far as i can tell vista and xp use the same file system
[01:30] <xTheGoat121x> sethk, alas, when the CPU still runs 10 degrees hotter in ubuntu than it does in XP... yeah, it's an issue.  Plus, I don't want to shorten the life of my fan.
[01:30] <sethk> ghost, I'm very conservative.  File system problems have a nasty way of remaining hidden until you destroy all your data.
[01:30] <ari_stress> SpookyET: i believe so
[01:30] <kazol> My flash drive is being mounted as read-only erratically-any solutions?
[01:30] <dana_bad> ghost: i'd recommend trying it out with a live cd
[01:30] <Administrator_> is it beter if i increase it or its ok with 2x ram?
[01:30] <Pelo> kazol,  ntfs format ?
[01:30] <ari_stress> SpookyET: maybe because your nickname is too spooky for trankerd :D
[01:30] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, have you tried setting the speed manually?  Not as a solution, but as a test to see if that's the problem.
[01:31] <kazol> Pelo: VFAT
[01:31] <SpookyET> ari_stress: he
[01:31] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:31] <Pelo> Administrator_,  I barely use mine,  2xram is fine for the majority of ppl , if you have a lot of memory you can probably make it smaller  by a lot i mean 4 gig +
[01:31] <Phill> exit
[01:31] <SpookyET> ari_stress: it also does not seem to be deleting old entries that don't exist.
[01:31] <Phill> woops; wrong thing.
[01:31] <Pelo> kazol,  chmod the mount point
[01:31] <SpookyET> it's idle
[01:31] <gordonjcp> swap is an outmoded concept
[01:32] <joseph> i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl                 and it gives me this error   wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle
[01:32] <gordonjcp> memory is cheap
[01:32] <CyberMad> i want to configure xorg.conf because there is problem with my monitor, when entering ubuntu my monitor display: "Out of Range   H 63,7 KHz   V 59,8 Hz"
[01:32] <xTheGoat121x> sethk.... I've had the processor down as far as I can get it.
[01:32] <krank_> Anyone have any advice on getting two monitors to work in 7.10? How do you tell what monitor is which?
[01:32] <CyberMad> i confuse, how to configure the monitor hertz with that information on xorg.conf ??
[01:32] <Administrator_> i have 192M ram then is 384M swap ok or beter to increase it?
[01:32] <stib> hmm, can't remember. I'll be back
[01:33] <sethk> sethk, what I mean is, do you have an independent way to measure whether the processor is really running at the slower speed, and/or do you have a way to verify that the reported temperature is correct?
[01:33] <Pelo> CyberMad,  open xorg.conf look for the vert refresh and horiz sync values,   change them for taht is listed on the label on the back of you rmonitor
[01:33] <rabidweezle> Here's an age old problem, I have a 160 gig seagate hard drive. I have a motherboard with the old 33 gig bios limitation and there is NO update for the bios available (msi...) Supposedly linux was supposed to just See the hard drive one I installed and made a partition just for /boot
[01:33] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, , what I mean is, do you have an independent way to measure whether the processor is really running at the slower speed, and/or do you have a way to verify that the reported temperature is correct?
[01:33] <]RandoM[> i screwed up the permissions on my home directory.. how do i fix it?
[01:33] <Pelo> Administrator_,  make it 1 gig of swap
[01:33] <sethk> sethk, sent a message to myself.  :)
[01:33] <Pelo> Administrator_,  also consider using xubuntu , it is a bit lighter then ubuntu
[01:33] <]RandoM[> chmod 644 doesn't do it
[01:34] <Pelo> rando chmod 755
[01:34] <komputes> ]RandoM[: do you ger an error, did you try sudo chmod
[01:34] <rabidweezle> well, it doesn't see the rest of the hard drive and I have been searching for months for a way to fix it, with kernel options and everything, nothing has worked
[01:34] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, the point is, something isn't working the way it claims to be working.  So the way to track that down is to verify the measurements.
[01:34] <CyberMad> Pelo yes, i know there is setting of Hertz... ok i found behind my monitor:  GTC Millenia, Power Rating: 100-240V ~ 50/60Hz 1.5A
[01:34] <]RandoM[> ahh.. i'll try 755
[01:34] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, if they verify, something is wrong with the way the data is processed.  If not, obviously, v.v.
[01:34] <]RandoM[> i don't get an error it just won't let me login after i change it to 644
[01:34] <CyberMad> Pelo depends on that information.. what i have to set on H and V
[01:34] <xTheGoat121x> sethk... ok, so how might I go about figuring out either one of those.
[01:35] <]RandoM[> i'll try 755
[01:35] <Administrator_> is lighter mean a speeder?
[01:35] <rabidweezle> for windows I used a DDO or a dynamic drive overlay, it's a piece of software in the MBR that tells the system it has a larger hard drive than what the bios reports
[01:35] <Pelo> CyberMad,  usual you get a mejtion V=... H=... or someting similar,  try checkingyour manual or looking up the specs of your monitor on the makers website
[01:35] <nickrud> ]RandoM[: try chmod -R 644 (you'll need to change ~/.dmrc to 600 afterwards
[01:35] <rabidweezle> it works for windows because windows didn't try to overwrite it
[01:35] <rabidweezle> but GRUB overwrites it
[01:35] <]RandoM[> ahhh thx
[01:35] <rabidweezle> hence it doesn't see the larger hard drive
[01:35] <Pelo> CyberMad,  on what I see,  set the hi value of h for 60 , not sure about the v
[01:36] <Pelo> CyberMad,  but I am only guessing
[01:36] <riotkittie>  /juo
[01:36] <riotkittie> errr
[01:36] <rabidweezle> I mean it see's it, but it gimps it down from 160 gigs to 30 gigs
[01:36] <CyberMad> Pelo i try find the manual book.. just a minute
[01:36] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, To measure the temperature you need one of those infrared temperature meters
[01:36] <michael> using Gutsy-- How can i check how much ram i have on my computer without a restart?
[01:36] <SpookyET> I'm having issues with suspend and hibernate, and when the screen is turned off. When i suspend, it shuts down. If it turns the screen off after n minutes, the screen will not turn on when i press a key.
[01:36] <jrib> michael: free -m
[01:36] <Pelo> michael,  top ?
[01:37] <sethk> xTheGoat121x, I'm thinking about a practical way to check the speed, don't have an answer to that at the moment.
[01:37] <michael> thanks ^^
[01:37] <Administrator_> whats about for 512M how much swap size beter to use?
[01:37] <rabidweezle> if anyone knows how to make it see the rest of the hard drive so I can use the full potential of the 160 gigs WITHOUT a bios upgrade or ide controller card, let me know
[01:37] <Pelo> michael,  menu > system > admin> system monitor  first tab
[01:37] <DIL> 'quit
[01:37] <Pelo> Administrator_,  512 of RAM , use 1 gig
[01:37] <matthew__> I'm trying to build some software from source, and it is complaining about a missing SDL.h.  Can you tell me what package provides that (or how to find out)?
[01:37] <michael> which is ram?
[01:38] <Administrator_> is lighter mean a speeder?
[01:38] <michael> shows a total of 503/ ised 497 and 6 free
[01:38] <rabidweezle> or if anyone knows how to hack out their own bios upgrade so it can see the higher capacity hard drives, that could be usefull too
[01:38] <michael> also says 175 chached
[01:38] <Pelo> matthew__,  open synaptic, search for sdl,  you'll probablay get somethjing like libsdl , also install the -dev package that matches
[01:38] <jrib> matthew__: packages.ubuntu.com or use apt-file
[01:38] <kelsin> matthew__: libsdl-dev
[01:39] <jimmygoon> rabidweezle, um, wait, you mean you have an ancient bios that doesn't support LBA
[01:39] <rabidweezle> it's pretty ancient
[01:39] <JJtech> lols
[01:39] <jimmygoon> matthew__, something called apt-file
[01:39] <rabidweezle> funny part is...
[01:39] <jimmygoon> matthew__, its used just lke apt-get and it tells you how to find a file
[01:39] <rabidweezle> it has 8x agp and such
[01:39] <Pelo> Administrator_, lighter means works on older machine with lower cpu and ram , so it would be faster on those machiens yes, ,  xubuntu need 500 mh cpu and 64 m ram ,  ubuntu needs 128 m ram , not sure about the min cpu
[01:39] <rabidweezle> it's just...
[01:39] <jimmygoon> matthew__, "apt-file search SDL.h"
[01:39] <adamonline45> rabidweezle: How big is your /boot?
[01:40] <jimmygoon> matthew__, it will tell you that you need libsdl1.2-dev
[01:40] <rabidweezle> just the right size as the readme's all said
[01:40] <jimmygoon> matthew__, :)
[01:40] <Administrator_> thx
[01:40] <rabidweezle> lemme double check the size though adamonline45
[01:40] <cmp1988> Hey guys, I got a bit of a problem with the flash plugin in Gutsy.  It's extremely unstable.  Youtube videos and other streaming content tend to stutter often, and once in a while, Firefox (and other browsers based upon it) will crash due to the flash.  Any advice?  I have a P4 1.8 GHz, 1.5 GB of RAM, and an ATI Radeon 9200 video card, so it's not necessarily processor speed, or RAM, maybe video card?  Thanks for help in advance.
[01:41] <matthew__> cool... installing apt-file right now (so I know how to do this in the future ;)
[01:41] <kelsin> cmp1988: convince adobe to open source flash so users can fix it, if you're already running the adobe non-free plugin that's as good as it gets
[01:41] <kelsin> cmp1988: (at least until the gnash plugin gets better)
[01:41] <rabidweezle> adamonline45, btw, this is the machine in question
[01:41] <jimmygoon> matthew__, just so you know... installing it is going to take for ever as it builds its index for the first time :P
[01:41] <cmp1988> kelsin: you have the same problem or similar?
[01:42] <Pelo> cmp1988,  that happens a lot if you have several running videos running /l;oading at once, youcan try removing all the flash from yoru system and installing the very latest from the adobe site,  they just have a new one out
[01:42] <kelsin> cmp1988: I do not, it works pretty well for me, make sure you have direct rendering enabled for your graphics card
[01:42] <rabidweezle> ok, /boot is 94 megs
[01:42] <Pelo> g'night folks
[01:42] <matthew__> jimmygoon: actually, the install was lickety split. but the search yielded nothing.  I think I need to run apt-file update first.
[01:42] <jimmygoon> Has anyone else gotten firefox3b1 running with antialiased fonts.... its looking like openoffice... (all crummy) right now
[01:42] <jimmygoon> matthew__, possible
[01:43] <cmp1988> kelsin: direct rendering is enabled, and I don't think it's the version of flash, because I've used both the current stable release and the flash 9 update RC or something like that
[01:43] <cmp1988> kelsin: oh yea, I only have 1 going at a time
[01:43] <jimmygoon> matthew__, you can also search through packages for files online: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <JJtech> how to install ubuntu with less RAM?
[01:43] <ghost> Is running the 'tracker' indexing service useful for anything? what does indexing actually do?
[01:43] <jimmygoon> ghost, makes it so your files are "indexed" for faster searching
[01:43] <kelsin> JJtech: you can always use the alternate cd iso to install a text mode system and then install whatever your system can handle
[01:44] <CyberMad> 1st, i want to use 1024x768 screen resolution, ok i found the monitor manual book.. Standard: VESA/60  Resolution: 1024x768  Horizontal Frequency: 48.4kHz  Vertical Frequency: 60Hz
[01:44] <brent0n> hello, i'm having difficulties using a program, and was curious if someone could help me with it. :)
[01:44] <AriX_> anyone use a mac mini with 7.10 or 7.04?
[01:44] <CyberMad> what i have to set on HorizZync and VertRefresh ?
[01:44] <rabidweezle> you know, I just though about something adamonline45, I better check to make sure that the jumper for the 30 gig is not on
[01:44] <brent0n> i would prefer p2p, if there's someone who wouldn't mind
[01:44] <kelsin> brent0n: just ask your question/explain your problem
[01:44] <AriX_> I'm having some annoying video card issue.
[01:44] <AriX_> *issues
[01:44] <matthew__> jimmygoon: ohh.. that's really easy...
[01:44] <rabidweezle> brb
[01:44] <ghost> jimmygoon, yeah but what does that actually DO. does the indexing service build basically a database of where files are? what actually uses this, just a 'find files' function?
[01:44] <JJtech> kelsin: i only have the live CD installer... what can i do?
[01:44] <kelsin> ghost: tracker uses it itself
[01:44] <adamonline45> rabidweezle: Alright... Trying to find a doc that helped me years ago...
[01:45] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: i did not notice any difference in the fonts
[01:45] <jimmygoon> ghost, largely.
[01:45] <kelsin> JJtech: if the live cd doesn't work on your system you're outta luck, the live cd does not include the command line installer or the text-mode installer
[01:45] <matthew__> Next question:  what does the [security] designation mean in packages.ubuntu.com?
[01:45] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, I've installed custom font packages/patches for "cleartype-like" fonts
[01:45] <AriX_> no one uses a mac minI? :P
[01:45] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, and I find it strange that both firefox and openoffice ignore those preferences
[01:45] <CyberMad> any help?
[01:45] <AriX_> meh, thanks ;(
[01:45] <rangerguy39> when i run ubuntu, all i get is a blank, orange screen
[01:45] <ghost> kelsin, basically what I am asking is, does it actually do anything useful other than finding missing text documents? or does it help with system internals
[01:46] <brent0n> ah, well, it's pretty noobish, probably. i'm having trouble running/maybe even installing(it's bad that i don't know if it's installed or not). but this program http://ushare.geexbox.org/ is what i'm trying to use, but i'm not sure exactly if i've got in installed properly, or how to configure it if it is.
[01:46] <jimmygoon> ghost, no its not system vital
[01:46] <JJtech> kelsin: so i have to download the alternate installer??? can u pls send me the link??
[01:46] <kelsin> just for user searching
[01:46] <kelsin> !download | JJtech
[01:46] <ubotu> JJtech: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[01:46] <mikeooo> anyone here run windows apps seemlessly with rdesktop and vmware?
[01:46] <nickrud> ghost: ideally, it will index the text in a pdf or web page and have it available for quick finding
[01:47] <mikeooo> wondering how "seemless" it is
[01:47] <xTheGoat121x> BRB
[01:47] <mikeooo> the screenshots look good
[01:47] <MoTec> JJtech: there is a checkbox when you you pick the version you want that says 'download alternate install cd'
[01:47] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, I'm using virtualbox and its builtin seemless... and its not
[01:47] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: in menus or in the page content, page content is controled by the web page and lacking specific font from the web page edit -> preferences -> content -> fonts -> advanced is used
[01:47] <mikeooo> its not seemless?
[01:47] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, but hte "homebrew" rtp is pretty good
[01:47] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, menus.... etc
[01:47] <mikeooo> i was looking at rdesktop
[01:47] <kelsin> mikeooo: vmware is emulation, so speed is going to take a hit whether you use it's screen or rdesktop
[01:48] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, interace stuff
[01:48] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, its pretty decent
[01:48] <mikeooo> running a q6600 w/ 8gb of ram so processing power shouldn't be a problem
[01:48] <brent0n> anyone? :P
[01:48] <mikeooo> it would more be if the network aspect of it was slow
[01:48] <mikeooo> as far as latency
[01:48] <ghost> Is it a resource hog? It does not sound very useful to me at this point
[01:48] <mikeooo> like vmware on a gigabit lan isn't instant
[01:48] <mikeooo> or rather vnc
[01:49] <mikeooo> not vmware
[01:49] <kelsin> ghost: if you're not going to use the searching just disable it
[01:49] <cmp1988> Another question guys, Ndiswrapper won't start up at boot time yet I've done the "ndiswrapper -m" command
[01:49] <richee> how do I set the value of date in a enviroment variable?
[01:49] <kelsin> ghost: you can always turn it on later
[01:49] <mikeooo> jimmygoon does it work with all the compiz-fusion effects?
[01:49] <richee> can anyone suggest me something ?
[01:49] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: what window manager?
[01:49] <jimmygoon> mikeooo, no idea
[01:50] <tohoyn> richee: see command "date"
[01:50] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, with and without compiz fusion --- metacity
[01:50] <kelsin> richee: "VAR=value", to make it available out of the script you have to "export VAR" after or "export VAR=value"
[01:50] <ghost> yeah I am trying to streamline this instal, sorry If am asking weird questions
[01:50] <kelsin> richee: "export DATE=`date`"
[01:50] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, give me 60 seconds and I'll have a screenshot
[01:50] <mikeooo> do the menus lag at all?
[01:50] <cmp1988> ghost: no questions related to Ubuntu are weird questions, unless you're trying to ask something weird ;)
[01:50] <mikeooo> and does alt tab work?
[01:51] <ghost> what is your opininn of zsh?
[01:51] <ghost> can zsh safely replace dash
[01:51] <BlaenkDenum> broomhead0: good job
[01:51] <broomhead0> thanks blaenk
[01:52] <broomhead0> i need some help installing ubuntu onto a mac
[01:52] <BlaenkDenum> no problem
[01:52] <kelsin> ghost: dash is meant to just be a posix /bin/sh, zsh is more rightly compared to bash
[01:52] <Pici> ghost: Er, I wouldnt do that.
[01:52] <BlaenkDenum> broomhead0: just ask the specific question, remember to say that you're on a mac
[01:52] <broomhead0> yea ok thanks man
[01:53] <ghost> so i shouldn't integrate it to replace the default bash terminal
[01:53] <CyberMad> how to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh on xorg.conf  I don't know the range, i think i will use this: 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz
[01:53] <CyberMad> please help me :)
[01:53] <kelsin> ghost: replacing bash for your login shell is fine, replacing dash is not
[01:53] <broomhead0> Can someone help me boot ubuntu onto a mac, I've already burned the ISO onto a disc and made a new partition
[01:53] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, http://mickens.us/fonts.png
[01:53] <BlaenkDenum> CyberMad: do you know the model of your monitor?
[01:53] <dantheman440> hi
[01:54] <broomhead0> anyone?
[01:54] <ghost> dash is the one all of the ubuntu scripts are based on then?
[01:54] <kelsin> broomhead0: are you seeing an error or anything? Have you tried booting the disc?
[01:54] <dantheman440> um..im having problems with getting java to work on mozilloa firefox
[01:54] <kelsin> ghost: dash is posix compliant shell, so yes
[01:54] <broomhead0> what should I press when I start up, c or shift?
[01:54] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, as you can see, its not even quite the same...
[01:54] <CyberMad> BlaenkDenum yes, GTC Millenia with model GM562
[01:54] <jimmygoon> :/
[01:54] <kelsin> ghost: no reason to change it, you can change your login shell to /zsh using chsh all you want
[01:54] <ghost> posix is the standard for kernel interactive terminals?
[01:54] <dantheman440> How do i get java to work on firefox?
[01:54] <BlaenkDenum> CyberMad: google it, look specifically for a page that's selling it, and it should say the frequencies
[01:55] <SpookyET> How do you configure the "gnome-main-menu"? I want to add more apps to favourites and enable the search bar.
[01:55] <BlaenkDenum> CyberMad: that's what I did a few years ago, now ubuntu automatically picks it up for me
[01:55] <Frederick> folks Im having problems setting up my monitor it is a lcd monitor from lg and ubuntu seems to be borking it I got a geforce 8800 gts mobo anyone had similar issues? I also seem unable to use multiple terminals
[01:55] <jimmygoon> SpookyET, right click on the ubuntu icon and hit "edit menus"
[01:55] <kbrosnan> jimmygoon: going to reboot to my 7.10 install
[01:55] <MrStonedOne> what is that command to make a "snapshot" of the installed packages with apt-get, to be re-installed later
[01:55] <kelsin> ghost: posix is a standard for the operating system to say how /bin/sh should act. A lot of distros use bash for /bin/sh, but ubuntu replaced it with dash which is more minimal and JUST contains the posix standard pretty much
[01:55] <ghost> kelsin, that will basically then launch zsh instead of bash anytime gnome wants to run a terminal
[01:55] <kelsin> ghost: yes
[01:55] <ghost> kelsin... ok that makes sence
[01:55] <jimmygoon> kbrosnan, don't spend too much time on it... its not a big deal... I will post on the forums and see what others think
[01:55] <CyberMad> BlaenkDenum ok, just a minute
[01:56] <broomhead0> kelsin: you think you could help me?
[01:56] <jimmygoon> its definetly not mission criticla or anything
[01:56] <kelsin> broomhead0: I have no experience with macs
[01:56] <broomhead0> ok then thanks anyway
[01:56] <RazzoRz> hey folks
[01:57] <flughaffen> im having trouble setting up sharing on ubuntu gutsy
[01:57] <Frederick> and I wonder why in hell ubuntu in recovey mode does not allow me to use multiple screens
[01:57] <RazzoRz> having issues getting my mic working in innotek vbox... anyone know how to fix this issue?
[01:57] <LadyNikon> Frederick: please watch your language
[01:58] <cabrioleur> Frederick, single user mode? you can use screen...
[01:58] <sethk> Frederick, that's an odd question.  It's recovery mode, the idea is to be as simple as possible and to always boot, even if there are problems associated with the display
[01:58] <Frederick> sethk: oki but the normal mode does not boot
[01:58] <kelsin> flughaffen: what type of sharing?
[01:59] <ramza3> I have firefox 3 beta (installed without apt) and firefox 2.0.0.8.  I think I am using the commercial player with FF2 and the free one with FF3.  Is there a way to set FF3 to use the commercial flashplugin.
[01:59] <sethk> Frederick, indeed, but the purpose of recovery mode is to fix the problem.  It's not designed to be a reasonable environment for routine things.
[01:59] <Frederick> sethk: I get a black screen while booting in "normal" mode
[01:59] <sethk> Frederick, ok, first step, then, is to look at the X log in recovery mode
[01:59] <flughaffen> kelshin, filesharing between 2 gutsy machines
[02:00] <Frederick> already done error in locking authority file
[02:00] <tonyr1988> About half of the time, my USB hard drive that's mounted at /home (formatted ext3), mounts as read-only, and if I try to "mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1", it says it's write-protected. Any ideas?
[02:00] <Frederick> sethk: ive installed ubuntu like 40 times
[02:00] <kelsin> flughaffen: as long as ssh is running you can get to them using the sftp method of "Connect to Server" in places
[02:00] <Frederick> and I got no clues this time I wonder it can be related to a borked support to my lcd monitor
[02:00] <sethk> Frederick, if you install it twice and still have a problem, the other 38 times are wasted
[02:00] <sethk> Frederick, it's possible
[02:00] <flughaffen> kelshin, ssh?
[02:00] <Frederick> sethk: ive installed 40 times sucessfully
[02:00] <Ademan>  does anyone know of a good resource to get into network programming?  I know next to nothing (although i do understand a lot of the low level stuff, ie the sockets apis) I imagine there are plenty of higher level concepts though that a well designed network system would be good to adopt, the "handshake" immediately comes to mind but i imagine there are other high level concepts or patterns worth learning about
[02:01] <Ademan> i know that's at least midly off topic, sorry
[02:01] <yoyo> hello all
[02:01] <sethk> Frederick, Oh, I thought you meant that you keep reinstalling on this machine
[02:01] <Frederick> but without multiple screens I cant even use a text based browser
[02:01] <sethk> Ademan, go do #ubuntu-offtopic and I might have a few ideas
[02:01] <Ademan> already there :-p
[02:01] <kelsin> Ademan: networking class at your local community college? Even if you don't want to take it, finding out what books they use would be a good start
[02:01] <Frederick> Ademan: ask in programming c or linux get freacking advanced programming in the unix enviroment and dont flood
[02:02] <Frederick> advanced nework programming in the unix enviroment I think the autor is stevens
[02:02] <kev_b> anyone know, is there an up-to-date list of webcams that work (well) in ubuntu?
[02:02] <Ademan> Frederick: well i just pasted it over into ubuntu-offtopic when i realized i was offtopic here, and thanks for the book suggestion
[02:02] <Frederick> sethk: so any ideas?
[02:02] <MrStonedOne> What is the command to make a "snapshot", or a list of the installed packages with apt-get, to be re-installed later with a similar command??
[02:03] <Frederick> folks anyone here with experience in setting up lcd monitors and nvidia cards in ubuntu?
[02:03] <Xdange1> guys can a miss configuration of /etc/jhosts file cause the computer to move slow
[02:03] <sethk> Frederick, configure X so that there is only one resolution, one that you know the monitor can handle.
[02:03] <sethk> Frederick, if you have another monitor, plug it in and see what happens
[02:03] <kelsin> MrStonedOne: "dpkg --get-selections" you can pipe that to a file to save it
[02:03] <linduxed> my icedtea doesnt seem to work, im opening a site with a java game and it doesnt load at all
[02:03] <linduxed> any ideas?
[02:04] <Frederick> sethk: I can try it in fact I did it, well lets assume I have no other monitor cause I wont have a second monitor to every emergency on my life
[02:04] <MrStonedOne> kelsin: and how can i reinstall
[02:04] <kelsin> linduxed: are you opposed to install the sun-java6-jre?
[02:04] <Frederick> sethk: Ive installed both nvidia glx and nvidia-kerneçl
[02:04] <linduxed> kelsin: no its just that iced tea was what got suggested for install
[02:04] <Xdange1> guys can a miss configuration of /etc/hosts file cause computer to move slow
[02:04] <yoyo> can somebody help me with PPA pls ? I did a package build on PPA, called the package mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13~ppa2 instead of mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 and did add the "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/myppa/ubuntu gutsy main universe multiverse" to my source.list. but apt-get-upgrade still install mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 and not my PPA version
[02:05] <Frederick> Xdange1: yes
[02:05] <kelsin> MrStonedOne: dpkg --set-selections is the first step, after that there is a command to install them, if you google with get and set you'll find it quick
[02:05] <IpMooIng> question time.. rare
[02:05] <matthew__> Can you tell me what [security] next to a package name means? (on packages.ubuntu.com)
[02:05] <Xdange1> Frederick: well that seems to be my case
[02:05] <Xdange1> Frederick: how do i reset the settings
[02:05] <IpMooIng> about the root account.. when i change  pass its wont  work
[02:05] <linduxed> kelsin: so remove iced, install jre and t should work?
[02:05] <kelsin> linduxed: I would suggest using the sun-java6-jre package that's listed in the java list instead of ice-tead. It's working well and great for some things but it's not fully compatible with sun's java yet
[02:05] <matthew__> Or better yet, how I look that up?
[02:05] <Frederick> Xdange1: you can edit the file
[02:06] <sethk> yoyo, temporarily disable the repository that has the version you don't want.
[02:06] <ejt> hello
[02:06] <sethk> yoyo, then, in synaptic, reload and do the install.  Then turn that repository back on.
[02:06] <linduxed> kelsin: should i remove iced completely?
[02:06] <MrStonedOne> thanks kelsin
[02:06] <kelsin> linduxed: up to you, but if you goal is just to use java on a home machine then yes I'd suggest that
[02:06] <lex_> I appear to be having an issue with dvdrip; when trying to use the program I encounter: The movie has 171092.736 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation. I've checked the installs and even reinstalled them but keep getting this error. Any insight?
[02:06] <linduxed> kelsin: thx
[02:07] <ejt> I have found an issue in the command line expansion in Makefiles... it appears to only occur in Ubuntu (out of Fedora or OS X, which all use the same GNU Make 3.81)
[02:07] <tonyr1988> Is there anything important I need to remember about mounting an ext3 external hard drive? 1/2 the time, it works fine. 1/2 the time, it mounts read-only.
[02:07] <Xdange1> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[02:07] <Xdange1> 127.0.0.1 infamous-ego.cm.flowja.com infamous-box.MSHOME
[02:07] <Xdange1> i dont kno whats wrong
[02:08] <ejt> I at first blamed bash, but the Fedora bash is older than 7.04, which is older than OS X 10.5, which is older than 7.10
[02:08] <kelsin> Xdange1: what's running slow?
[02:08] <hvgotcodes> how do i tell which version of fglrx i have?
[02:08] <Frederick> fglrx -v?
[02:08] <yoyo> sethk, it's not a good way. if i do apt-get upgrade later it will reinstall the normal package. i'd like to have upgrades from ubuntu but have my packages overwriting the standart one.
[02:08] <hvgotcodes> no fglrx is the ati driver
[02:08] <ejt> so the only consistent thing is Ubuntu, unless bash broke, fixed, and then broke again
[02:08] <Xdange1> kelsin: like i open a file it will take longer than the usual
[02:08] <yoyo> sethk, and as i understood PPA have provision for what.
[02:09] <sethk> yoyo, then try moving the repository with the version you want above the other one.
[02:09] <carlosss> why the words on amsn its so little that i cant read it ?
[02:09] <Xdange1> first i thought it was a hardrive issue
[02:09] <kelsin> Xdange1: open a file in what, just the gnome text editor or something like that?
[02:09] <yoyo> i tried on the top and at the end.
[02:09] <jsoftw> ok
[02:09] <kelsin> Xdange1: is you lo interface up "ifconfig" in a terminal at least lists lo as up
[02:09] <ejt> figured I'd check here if anyone wants to try a 3 line Makefile...
[02:09] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, fglrxinfo
[02:10] <ejt> oh the other weird thing is the expansion works properly on the command line itself...
[02:10] <sethk> yoyo, I never upgrade.  I install what I need.  wholesale upgrade is a really bad idea.  Also, in synaptic, you can disable any part of the upgrade before doing the actual installs.
[02:10] <ejt> it seems to only break in Ubuntu, within a Makefile
[02:10] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:10] <hvgotcodes> is 8.34.8 the most recent?
[02:10] <RazzoRz> having issues getting my mic working in innotek vbox... anyone know how to fix this issue?
[02:10] <yoyo> do somebody use Launchpad PPA here and know about package naming for PPA to overwrite standard packages pls ?
[02:10] <kelsin> ejt: can you post in pastebin a test file with your expansion and the behavior on different systems?
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: is 8.34.8 the latest version
[02:11] <hvgotcodes> ?
[02:11] <Xdange1> kelsin: yes lo is up
[02:11] <ejt> sure... one sec
[02:11] <yoyo> sethk,  i need to keep the software up to date. :)
[02:11] <ghost> hey guys it looks like my system is hanging on 'set the clock' during my bootup. what is the appropreate logfile that shows my boot?
[02:11] <kazol> Anyone here familiar with inserting page numbers in OpenOffice?
[02:11] <crdlb> yoyo: #launchpad ?
[02:11] <ghost> /var/log/boot?
[02:11] <sethk> yoyo, that is rarely true.  You may _want_ to keep it up to date, but it's highly unlikely that you truly need to.
[02:11] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, 7.11 is
[02:12] <yoyo> crdlb, launchpad.net
[02:12] <squidink> kazol: what in particular?
[02:12] <Xdange1> kelsin: lo is up
[02:12] <crdlb> yoyo: I mean have you tried #launchpad ?
[02:12] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:12] <gaminggeek> hello
[02:12] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: how come doesnt show up for update?
[02:12] <gaminggeek> can someone remind me how to update my path?
[02:12] <hvgotcodes> i enabled the restricted drivers
[02:12] <kazol> squidink: A document in Writer; I also want the numbers to start on the second page.
[02:12] <yoyo> sethk, believe me i need
[02:12] <jrib> gaminggeek: why?
[02:13] <hvgotcodes> i didnt get it manually
[02:13] <yoyo> crdlb, :) oh sorry, i will
[02:13] <sethk> yoyo, why?
[02:13] <kelsin> ejt: at the top of your not working makefile can you set "SHELL = /bin/bash" and also try with "SHELL = /bin/sh"?
[02:13] <jimmygoon> slowthy, does the zune use libmtp? if so rhythmbox with the "MTP Devices" plugin turned on may work
[02:13] <jsoftw> I have trouble with suspending my ubuntu box. Basically the machine becomes unresponsive afterwards.
[02:13] <gaminggeek> because I have installed something manually and its not seeing the new libary it installed
[02:13] <jsoftw> Which is unacceptable.
[02:13] <jsoftw> :P
[02:13] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, video drivers are not updated after a stable release of Ubuntu
[02:13] <jrib> !who | gaminggeek
[02:13] <ubotu> gaminggeek: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:13] <jrib> gaminggeek: what exactly?
[02:13] <squidink> kazol: I think you need to create a new section
[02:13] <gaminggeek> jrib: swfmill
[02:14] <ejt> kelsin: here's what I was doing: http://pastebin.com/m33204849
[02:14] <adante> hi
[02:14] <ejt> I'll try the shell thing you suggest
[02:14] <yoyo> sethk, cause i develop for a hardware platform and i use up to date softwares sometimes even SVN..
[02:14] <kelsin> gaminggeek: the system path is defined in /etc/environment, if you just want to set it yourself you can add "export PATH=/usr/local/bin;$PATH" in your .bashrc, obviously replace /usr/local/bin whith what you need
[02:14] <gaminggeek> jrib: swfmill: error while loading shared libraries: libswft.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:14] <kazol> squidink: Section?
[02:14] <adante> i need a package (imagemagick) compiled with a specific option (lossless jpeg) - is there any way to do this via ubuntus package management or do i have to compile it manually?
[02:14] <sethk> yoyo, that means you need to have newer version of software.  It doesn't mean you have to be lazy and just upgrade everything.
[02:15] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: Im intersted in having compositing goodness using xcompmgr, instead of relying on compiz-fusion.  will upgrading that driver make xcompmgr better?  compiz-fusion handles shadows/translucency no prob, but xcompmgr does not....
[02:15] <ejt> kelsin: ahh, yes, it works with SHELL=/bin/bash at the top
[02:15] <yoyo> sethk: sorry, we do not understand each others.
[02:15] <macabro22> Hello
[02:15] <ghost> How do I view my bootlog? and is it possible to see my bootlog timestamped?
[02:15] <kelsin> ejt: ubuntu uses dash for /bin/sh, it's posix compliant
[02:15] <jrib> gaminggeek: where is that file?
[02:15] <macabro22> My mozilla-mplayer won't load any videos. Mplayer alone will. Can someone help
[02:15] <macabro22> ?
[02:16] <kelsin> ejt: so now you know that technically that syntax isn't posix :) but you can override the shell with SHELL obviously, glad that fix was easy lol
[02:16] <ejt> kelsin: hmm, so what of the expansion? is {h,cc} not posix compliant?
[02:16] <gaminggeek> jrib: just updatedbing atm I will tell you when its done
[02:16] <CommonClone> I am trying to install ubuntu on a computer that has vista on it, and the partition menu doesn't see the hard drive
[02:16] <CommonClone> any ideas?
[02:16] <jsoftw> CommonClone: hmm
[02:16] <ejt> kelsin: (or is it just a bug in dash)
[02:16] <jsoftw> CommonClone: trouble.
[02:16] <kelsin> ejt: yeah, if you run "/bin/sh -c 'ls file.{1,2}'" it will also complain
[02:16] <jsoftw> CommonClone: Im not much of an expert with grub, sorry
[02:16] <kelsin> ejt: I'm not 100% but my best guess is that {} isn't in posix
[02:17] <kelsin> ejt: a lot of normal bash stuff isn't
[02:17] <ejt> kelsin: wow, alrighty then, that's a new one for me, thanks!
[02:17] <CommonClone> jsoftw: Im in the gui partitioner
[02:17] <jsoftw> Oh right
[02:17] <jsoftw> CommonClone: what does it say the partitions are?
[02:17] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, the new drivers are still buggy and new, although they do support compiz without xgl
[02:18] <CommonClone> jsoftw: it doesnt see any
[02:18] <kelsin> CommonClone: what type of hard drive? just a normla ide of SATA internal?
[02:18] <CommonClone> jsoftw: WD normal ide
[02:18] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: im wondering if it will help non-compiz based compositing
[02:19] <CyberMad> how to lock ubuntu panel so user can not delete it
[02:19] <CommonClone> sorry, that was meant for you kelsin
[02:19] <jsoftw> CommonClone: hmmm...
[02:19] <jsoftw> CommonClone: strange.
[02:21] <CommonClone> how do I install from cmd line?
[02:21] <jrib> !apt > CommonClone (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:21] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, probably not
[02:21] <darwub> hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not
[02:22] <jrib> CyberMad: look into pessulus and sabayon though I am not sure.  library.gnome.org may help too
[02:22] <hvgotcodes> buttercups: if i get a new video card will any nvidia or intel graphics card be ok for that?
[02:22] <lex_> darwub: you using it from the cmd line?
[02:23] <gaminggeek> jrib: /usr/local/lib/libswft.so.0
[02:23] <jrib> gaminggeek: hmm weird, does runnig 'ldconfig' help?
[02:23] <buttercups> hvgotcodes, don't know never had a nvidia, support for ati is horrible, i hear good things about nvidia
[02:24] <hvgotcodes> ok thanx
[02:25] <gaminggeek> jrib: yes thank you that was the command I was looking for :)
[02:25] <CommonClone> jrib: i meant how do I install ubuntu from command line?
[02:26] <jrib> CommonClone: a text install?  Use the alternate cd
[02:26] <Flannel> CommonClone: You need the alternate CD
[02:26] <Casey> How do I remove GRUB? I just installed Windows OEM version and I get GRUB with error 17
[02:26] <smooker4> Hi all
[02:26] <smooker4> how do i save files to SDA6 if it doesnt have mount point.. ?
[02:26] <jrib> smooker4: mount it
[02:27] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:27] <smooker4> how do i mount it ?
[02:27] <CommonClone> I can't just switch to cmd line mode and install?
[02:27] <smooker4> if i click right i seee only unmount
[02:27] <jrib> CommonClone: no
[02:27] <jrib> smooker4: then it is probably mounted
[02:28] <smooker4> but i cant save files there
[02:28] <ghost> this is unrelated but does anyone know what the Xbox 360 hacker irc channel is?
[02:28] <jrib> smooker4: why? what happens when you try?
[02:28] <smooker4> what is the path ? i am trying to set KTorrent
[02:28] <toby_> this is un related too but: What impact may Kazza have if running on a companies PC?
[02:28] <jrib> smooker4: type 'mount'
[02:28] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:28] <smooker4> where ?
[02:28] <jrib> !offtopic | toby_
[02:29] <ubotu> toby_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:29] <jrib> smooker4: in a terminal
[02:29] <toby_> Thanks sorry
[02:29] <skyfalcon866> !ffmpeg
[02:29] <CommonClone> jrib: can I format my hd with vista installed on it from the cmd line on the live cd?
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <smooker4> oic /dev/sda6
[02:29] <ghost> toby i will answer that for you
[02:29] <ghost> Don't do it
[02:29] <jrib> smooker4: that's not the mount point, that's the device name
[02:30] <smooker4> aw
[02:30] <ghost> your IT department won't like it.
[02:30] <ghost> And if found you doing that on MY network, i would have you fired
[02:30] <slowthy> atleast use a non-crap program
[02:30] <yaro> I will ask my support question as soon as I am sure I need to ask it here.
[02:30] <skyfalcon866> !mencoder
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <smooker4> \dev/sda6 on /media/sda6 type ext3 (rw)
[02:30] <jrib> CommonClone: what does "from the cmd line" mean?  Yes, you can format it on the live cd, and yes there is a command line on the live system
[02:30] <LjL> yaro: uhm... ok
[02:30] <jrib> smooker4: yes, /media/sda6 is the mount point
[02:31] <yaro> Okay. I got it.
[02:31] <hellonull> hey i just booted into ubuntu for the first time a week or so and i have 73 updates to install... but when i say "install now" 39 of the packages appear under "NOT AUTHENTICATED"... amongst these are perl, php5, and firefox. what does this mean?
[02:32] <CommonClone> jrib: it can't see my HD in the gui partitioner, I wanted to try it from the cmd line, but I tried fdisk /dev/hda and it tells me unable to open, I think vista did something dumb to the HD and now I can't see it
[02:32] <slowthy> atleast use a non-crap program
[02:32] <slowthy> wait
[02:32] <ghost> hellonull, your authentication key is outdated
[02:32] <slowthy> forget that
[02:32] <ghost> I usually just ignore it
[02:32] <scguy318> hellonull: that means for some reason the GPG key for your repos seem to be outdated or missing
[02:32] <LjL> !gpgerr > hellonull    (hellonull, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:32] <yaro> As far as I can tell, my problem is somewhat common, but a clear solution, as far as I can tell, has not been determined. My friend recommend I come here and ask. So I am.
[02:32] <slowthy> is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?
[02:32] <ghost> hellonull: if you are only downloading from the offical repos you shouldn't have any problem
[02:33] <ghost> if you mix repositories... becareful
[02:33] <RazzoRz> can someone help me with a mic issue with 7.10???
[02:33] <jrib> CommonClone: did you use sudo?
[02:33] <Flannel> slowthy: Does your zune show up like a USB harddrive? or what?
[02:33] <scguy318> slowthy: not really, unless you count a VM product for running XP
[02:33] <scguy318> slowthy: I think Zunes don't show at all, but then I don't own one
[02:33] <slowthy> they dont
[02:33] <CommonClone> jrib: I'm dumb...let me try
[02:33] <CaptainBoots> I just updated to the latest version of Ubuntu and I'm now getting an error message saying that the Gnome Settings Daemon failed to load, that it was started too many times???  Has anyone come across this issue and know of a fix?
[02:33] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: you should check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[02:34] <yaro> Anyway, my problem is this: My sound on Flash has stopped working, and every solution I found on the forums didn't work.
[02:34] <CaptainBoots> Thanks Kelsin let me dive in there real quick
[02:35] <RazzoRz> How does one get there mic working in gusty?
[02:35] <scguy318> slowthy: there's no current solution for syncing a Zune with a Linux machine, you'll have to use XP somehow, either virtualized or actual
[02:35] <scguy318> slowthy: and it's a bit understandable, since guess who's selling the Zune? :P
[02:35] <CommonClone> jrib: in /dev, there is no hd*, so I guess linux isn't detecting it, any ideas?
[02:35] <yaro> I have one, jrib/.
[02:36] <jrib> CommonClone: sda?
[02:36] <hellonull> ghost: would avant-window-navigator repos (tuxfamily.org) be a potential source of this problem?
[02:36] <yaro> Yis. That was what I was going to say.
[02:36] <jrib> yaro: one what?
[02:36] <scguy318> CommonClone: Ubuntu assigns all disks an sd* name
[02:36] <CommonClone> jrib: NOPE
[02:36] <yaro> Look for an sda in /dev/
[02:36] <CommonClone> opps sorry
[02:36] <jrib> CommonClone: what does 'sudo fdisk -l' do?
[02:36] <Flannel> slowthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol  Check down at the bottom for the linux libraries/progrmas
[02:37] <CommonClone> jrib: nothing
[02:37] <Frederick> folks I still unable to set up my xserver up with my geforce 8800
[02:37] <adante> hi
[02:37] <adante> if i apt-get source something where does it go?
[02:37] <jrib> adante: current working directory
[02:37] <lex_> Frederick: you ahve envy installed?
[02:38] <Frederick> lex_: what?
[02:38] <nerdsquad3210> when will linux come up with dynamic swaping ?
[02:38] <tatttors> how do I give my username permission to write to /var/www?
[02:38] <yaro> sudo
[02:38] <regeya> meh.  dynamic swapping is overrated.
[02:38] <tatttors> sudo what
[02:38] <smooker4> but when i want to save torrents to /media/sda6 the programs azureus and KTorrent fail cant create directory for the torrent
[02:38] <Frederick> smooker4: check chmod
[02:38] <lex_> Frederick: to get the latest driver ect setup for my 8800, i downloaded an instller called Envy to do the leg work
[02:38] <yaro> Depends on what exactly you are writing.
[02:39] <smooker4> how ?
[02:39] <jrib> !permissions > tatttors (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:39] <scguy318> tatttors: add your username to the group owner for /var/www, change ownership/group for /var/www, etc.
[02:39] <Frederick> lex_: oki I wiill check it now
[02:39] <tatttors> I want to create and save files into the directory
[02:39] <Frederick> but I got no xserver can I get it on apt?
[02:39] <scguy318> tatttors: and possibly check actual permissions
[02:39] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin, I'm not seeing anything that's teliing me anything about Gnome-settings daemon in the xsession-errors file
[02:39] <tatttors> scguy: how
[02:39] <Frederick> lwhat is leg work?
[02:39] <yaro> Usually I just use sudo to elevate myself to root to write to those. Rarely do I do this unless I'm fixing problems.
[02:40] <scguy318> tatttors: sudo chmod -R user:group /var/www, and sudo usermod something
[02:40] <scguy318> tatttors: the PM sent by ubotu might be of interest
[02:40] <tatttors> k
[02:40] <scguy318> Frederick: if you're talking about Ubuntu Server install the ubuntu-desktop package
[02:40] <tatttors> err
[02:40] <tatttors> thats just file directorys
[02:40] <tatttors> I need file permissions
[02:40] <SpookyET> Should gnome main menu favorites list the most used apps?
[02:40] <Frederick> scguy318: man I got a desktop xserver is fucked up and gives me no decent error log
[02:40] <jrib> tatttors: ubotu's link answers your question
[02:41] <SpookyET> Why doesn't the list get updated?
[02:41] <LjL> !language | Frederick
[02:41] <ubotu> Frederick: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <scguy318> Frederick: /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[02:41] <RazzoRz> can does the MIC option on gusty work??
[02:41] <Frederick> and it didnt boot on the first install it seems to halt on a black screen
[02:41] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: if you try running it in a term does anything happen?
[02:41] <scguy318> Frederick: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:41] <Frederick> yep
[02:41] <tatttors> no it doesn't...
[02:41] <scguy318> Frederick: and what's the current issue?
[02:41] <tatttors> it just explains filesystems but not permissions
[02:41] <nerdsquad3210> ! when will linux come up with dynamic swaping ? why can linux use the free space on the root partition dynamicaly ?
[02:41] <Frederick> I got an lcd monit might be part of the problem
[02:41] <Frederick> scguy318: x does not boot
[02:42] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin, If I try running what in term? The Gnome Settings daemon?
[02:42] <Frederick> says the user has no right halts in the case of root
[02:42] <scguy318> Frederick: well yeah but what does the log say?
[02:42] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: yes
[02:42] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: "gnome-settings-daemon"
[02:42] <Frederick> scguy318: I will check again give me a sec
[02:42] <LjL> nerdsquad3210, a swap file can be used, not sure if dynamic is supported. but that has its own set of issues... for starters, if you use a file (especially a growing/shrinking one), fragmentation may arise. also, you don't have any control where on the disk the file is located generally speaking
[02:42] <Frederick> I need to get off here cause I dont have multiple screens
[02:42] <Frederick> dont aske me why
[02:42] <jrib> tatttors: it links you to it
[02:42] <scguy318> tatttors: that link ubotu PMed you links to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[02:42] <Frederick> alt fxx does not changes the screen
[02:43] <regeya> nerdsquad3210: from my own experience, if you've filled swap space to capacity, there's a problem aside from running out of swap.  having the oom killer kick in is a huge wake-up call :->
[02:43] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/550
[02:43] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin, this is what's displayed:
[02:43] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: first hit in google, might not be what you want but sounds like it
[02:43] <CaptainBoots> [1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]    The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]       The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal
[02:43] <BSG75> which one am I suppose to install azureus or azureus-gcj please?
[02:43] <RazzoRz> I am sorry is this a TUFF question???
[02:44] <jrib> !please > RazzoRz (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:44] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: http://cvs.linux.hr/swapd/ there is the second google hit, also looks interesting
[02:44] <jsoftw> its UBER TUFF
[02:44] <BSG75> okay let me rephrase .. which one will NOT suck my system dry :)
[02:44] <scguy318> BSG75: azureus probably, unless you want to use GCJ, and I hear Azureus on GCJ has issues
[02:44] <scguy318> BSG75: they both will, kinda :P
[02:44] <hockeyfan5000> BSG75: Azurues  but I would recommend trying Deluge
[02:44] <nerdsquad3210> i meant fot you to included it i dont understand anything about linux
[02:44] <BSG75> thanki :) ..
[02:44] <scguy318> BSG75: Azureus, since it runs on JVM, does have some pretty high memory consumption
[02:44] <BSG75> much appreciated
[02:44] <nerdsquad3210> i just go with whats out of the box
[02:45] <RazzoRz> Wow that was a big help
[02:45] <Casey> How do I remove GRUB?
[02:45] <RazzoRz> How UBER tuff is is there ??
[02:45] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: well since dynamic swap was a pretty advanced and unneeded feature, probably not for a while
[02:45] <scguy318> RazzoRz: question?
[02:45] <scguy318> Casey: install a different boot loader
[02:45] <RazzoRz> My mic on gusty
[02:45] <scguy318> RazzoRz: what about it?
[02:45] <yaro> Is it considered good etiquette to ask a question a second time?
[02:45] <RazzoRz> it just dont work
[02:45] <scguy318> yaro: its fine if you don't spam
[02:45] <scguy318> RazzzoRz: why not?
[02:45] <RazzoRz> sound works fine
[02:45] <RazzoRz> just notmy mic
[02:46] <Casey> scguy318: I have Win98 Dell OEM version installed and I get GRUB error 17 so I booted into a livecd. What to do?
[02:46] <scguy318> RazzzoRz: have you checked mixer settings?
[02:46] <RazzoRz> yes
[02:46] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin: [1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]    The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]       The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal
[02:46] <RazzoRz> its no muted
[02:46] <yaro> I am having trouble getting my Flash Plugin to play sound. It used to, but now it doesn't anymore. It's been broken since at least this morning.
[02:46] <LjL> yaro just don't repeat it overly often, and be patient for answers, but since this channel scrolls fast, there's nothing wrong with restating the question once in a while
[02:46] <Robotchicken1886> hey im kind of a linux/ubuntu noob,   how would i make it so cairo-clock is always open and starts on computer start up
[02:47] <nerdsquad3210> i bet theres some way for a program to use a specific HD location
[02:47] <cabrioleur> Casey, if you want just Win98, boot with prompt and type fdisk /mbr
[02:47] <RazzoRz> sorry is there a setting that i am missing?.. what should it be set at
[02:47] <smooker4> after i changed priviledgies i stil cant save torrents or make new dirs without sudo  :(
[02:47] <Casey> cabrioleur: how?
[02:47] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: I would try backing up your gconf folder ("mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf-bak") and see if you still have the problem
[02:47] <scguy318> RazzoRz: what audio card is it? I'm no ALSA expert unfortunately
[02:47] <scguy318> Robotchicken1886: immediate thought would be System -> Prefs -> session
[02:47] <smooker4> i need to have write read acess to /dev/sda6
[02:47] <jrib> smooker4: tell us what you did and what you are trying to do
[02:47] <RazzoRz> thats a tuff one i not sure if i know!!
[02:47] <lex_> Robotchicken1886: add the command to run it to the System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[02:47] <CaptainBoots> Okay stand by
[02:47] <jrib> smooker4: what filesystem?
[02:47] <smooker4> trying to save torrents on /dev/sda6
[02:47] <RazzoRz> tell me how to find out
[02:48] <smooker4> ExT3
[02:48] <nerdsquad3210> hes trying to make file sharers look bad
[02:48] <jrib> smooker4: no, you want to save to /media/sda6
[02:48] <cabrioleur> when you put boot from cd it will give you choices. one of them is to boot to command prompt (or something like). use win 98 cd
[02:48] <Robotchicken1886> wow im a retard thanks
[02:48] <scguy318> RazzoRz: should say in the mixer?
[02:48] <smooker4> yesx
[02:48] <ubuntu__> how do I mount my hard drive from the live cd?
[02:48] <jrib> !who | smooker4
[02:48] <ubotu> smooker4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:48] <nerdsquad3210> smooker4: is trying to make file sharers look bad
[02:48] <smooker4>  i cant save to /media/sda6
[02:48] <jrib> smooker4: what is the output of: ls -ld /media/sda6
[02:48] <RazzoRz> Scguy318: yes HDA asla mixer
[02:48] <RazzoRz> Alsa**
[02:49] <RazzoRz> but i have two options
[02:49] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, find an empty directory, and mount /dev/device /dir (replace device with the one you want to mount)
[02:49] <smooker4> drwxr-xr-x 4 smooker4 root 4096 2007-12-05 04:34 /media/sda6
[02:49] <sethk> smooker4, that's a device pseudo file
[02:49] <sethk> smooker4, no, sorry
[02:49] <scguy318> !alsa > RazzoRz (see PM from ubotu)
[02:49] <CaptainBoots> Oaky I think I'm gonna play with this some more . Thanky ou Kelsin
[02:49] <sethk> smooker4, I thought you said /dev/sda, not /media
[02:50] <scguy318> RazzoRz: I think there's some known covered issues with Intel HDA thats mentioned in the Ubuntu Wiki
[02:50] <smooker4> i was wrong i meant /media
[02:50] <RazzoRz> that or sigmatel stac9200 ( oss mixer
[02:50] <jrib> smooker4: then you can write to it.  Does 'touch /media/sda6/foobar' work?
[02:50] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: when I do that it says I must specify a filesystem
[02:50] <ubuntu__> type*
[02:50] <sethk> smooker4, ah, ok, I thought I saw that.  Do "mount" (no arguments), make sure it isn't mounted read only.  Try a copy with sudo.
[02:50] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, what file system you are trying to mount?
[02:50] <nerdsquad3210> how do ubuntu staff feels about having MINT ripping your distro ?
[02:51] <LjL> !ot | nerdsquad3210
[02:51] <ubotu> nerdsquad3210: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:51] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: idk, just trying to mount my hard drive
[02:51] <Flannel> nerdsquad3210: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[02:51] <nerdsquad3210> :)
[02:51] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: or floppy drive, but that's not listed in fstab and idk how to add it
[02:51] <smooker4> i need to save my files there :( but i cant i want to be able to create simply files and folders as i do on my desktop, withour have to add any password, otherwise its impossible for the torrent clients.
[02:51] <scguy318> RazzoRz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller may be of interest
[02:52] <jrib> smooker4: did touch work?
[02:52] <RazzoRz> ty
[02:52] <scguy318> smooker4: tweak your fstab
[02:52] <smooker4> nothing as output..
[02:52] <cabrioleur> try "mount -t msdos /dev/device /dir"
[02:52] <jrib> smooker4: is there now a "foobar" file in sda6?
[02:52] <sethk> smooker4, try the copy with sudo.  if that works, we know we have to change permissions.
[02:52] <smooker4> yes
[02:52] <smooker4> there is a file foobar
[02:52] <misc--> hi, if I have a 2x100gb and 1x50gb hard disk, what's the maximum space I'd get with a raid 5? I guess it would be 150gb?
[02:52] <jrib> smooker4: then you can write fine
[02:52] <Fezzler> Any iMovie users?
[02:53] <RazzoRz> Too bad it don't show my 9200 as a optio
[02:53] <RazzoRz> option**
[02:53] <cabrioleur> if you want to add to fstab, something like "/dev/device  /dir   msdos defaults,users  0  0" should be enough
[02:53] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: didn't work :/
[02:53] <nerdsquad3210> smooker4: try sudo /.
[02:53] <cafuego> Fezzler: on #macintosh perhaps
[02:53] <scguy318> RazzoRz: look at it again :)
[02:53] <RazzoRz> k
[02:53] <smooker4> i cant but torrent client cant write
[02:54] <jrib> nerdsquad3210: what is that supposed to do?
[02:54] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, what device are you using?
[02:54] <nerdsquad3210> make all hes troubles go away ?
[02:54] <jrib> smooker4: are you writing to sda6 or a subdirectory?
[02:54] <smooker4> Azureus said "error: failed to create parent directory 'media/sda6/downloads/game...
[02:54] <nerdsquad3210> or was it sudo ./ ?
[02:54] <scguy318> jrib: nerdsquad3210's command does absolutely nothing but cause a command not found error
[02:54] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur:  fd0 is my floppy, hda is my hard drive
[02:54] <jrib> nerdsquad3210: please try to be helpful
[02:54] <smooker4> writing at /mdeia/sda6/downloads/game..
[02:55] <jrib> smooker4: that is the full error?
[02:55] <jrib> smooker4: you need to copy and paste errors, not retype them
[02:55] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, try "sudo modprobe msdos" before you mount.
[02:55] <cafuego> smooker4: Check that your user account has write permission AND that sda6 isn't in fact full.
[02:56] <smooker4> Error: Failed to create parent directory '/media/sda6/downloads/Unreal.Tournament.3-AVENGEDd' (allocateFiles:/avd-ut3.iso)
[02:56] <Tmang> Anyone available to privately converse on the philosophy of Linux? Personal assessment I suppose...
[02:56] <smooker4> thats the full error
[02:56] <RazzoRz> scguy318: ok i see the /proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200  ( now what? )
[02:56] <ghost> Does anyone know of a app or driver to give reiserfs support to xp and vista?
[02:56] <scguy318> RazzoRz: read the suggestions
[02:56] <jrib> smooker4: cafuego makes a good point, does 'df -h' say sda6 is full?
[02:56] <scguy318> ghost: theres a read-only one I think, dunno name or link
[02:56] <cabrioleur> smooker4, do you ave the writing permission (I feel bed to support piracy)?
[02:56] <smooker4> i reformated my pc before 3 days its not full
[02:57] <jrib> smooker4: he has write permissions to sda6
[02:57] <cafuego> ghost: It's highly unlikely such a thing exists.
[02:57] <dark_ninja> ghost: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/accessing-reiserfs-from-windows-xp-380966/
[02:57] <Dankchild> hey i just created a new partition, if i install windows to it, will it interfere with GRUB?
[02:57] <nerdsquad3210> isnt sda an external drive ?
[02:57] <cafuego> smooker4: Can you check first and THEN say it's not full?
[02:57] <scguy318> Dankchild: yes, see !grub
[02:57] <ghost> thanks dark
[02:57] <RazzoRz> Scguy318: wow sorry i must be blind...
[02:57] <ghost> thanks dark_ninja
[02:57] <vanberge> anybody willing to offer up their opinion on the best/easiest/most compatible wlan adapter for a laptop?  I was thinking linksys WPC54G   :-)  thanks in advance
[02:57] <djtigerwolf> what do i need to know on making a linux operating systwm to make it?
[02:57] <RazzoRz> i dont see the Suggestions
[02:57] <dark_ninja> np
[02:57] <smooker4> i checked
[02:57] <cabrioleur> Dankchild, if grub is in mbr. It will not if grub is in the first partition :-)
[02:57] <smooker4> its not full
[02:57] <nerdsquad3210> isnt sda an external drive ?
[02:57] <jrib> !who | smooker4
[02:57] <ubotu> smooker4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:58] <scguy318> RazzoRz: bottom of page?
[02:58] <cafuego> vanberge: An atheros based one would probably be best.
[02:58] <yaro> nerdsquad3210: No, sda isn't always external.
[02:58] <blah569> I've used Ubuntu countless of times, and I really like it, but most of the stuff I do is Windows-related. I think that it would be a hassle to have to find alternatives/use WINE to run most of my Windows-only applications. Can anyone give me some convincing reasons/sites to look at to actually convince me to switch to Ubuntu? I've read all the way through http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net.
[02:58] <smooker4> dev/sda6              49G  180M   46G   1% /media/sda6
[02:58] <scguy318> RazzoRz: theres like 6 workarounds and the thing at the bottom of the page might be relevant
[02:58] <RazzoRz> Yep i am blind
[02:58] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: no, it's one that uses the scsi subsystem, DATA drives count
[02:58] <cafuego> vanberge: Note that linksys and other manufacturers have a habit of changing chipsets without changing model (or revision) numbers.
[02:58] <scguy318> blah569: what do you do?
[02:58] <jrib> smooker4: ok, ls -ld /media/sda6/downloads/'
[02:58] <nerdsquad3210> jrib: isnt sda supossed to be an external drive ?
[02:58] <cafuego> smooker4: Is sda6 an ntfs disk?
[02:58] <Dankchild> cabrioleur: yeah, its on the second partition..
[02:58] <cabrioleur> nerdsquad3210, not enymore :-)
[02:58] <kelsin> blah569: if you have windows only apps that you can't live without linux might not be for you
[02:58] <jrib> nerdsquad3210: not necessarily
[02:58] <Tmang> Anyone willing to give some time to talk to a newb at Linux?
[02:58] <smooker4> EXT3!
[02:58] <Dankchild> !grub
[02:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <vanberge> cafuego, an atherios one?  i thought those were 'hard to use' or hard to get working?
[02:59] <scguy318> Tmang: if you've got a question, you may ask it here, if OT talk you can head on over to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM me
[02:59] <cafuego> smooker4: Can you create files in the directory in question when on the commandline?
[02:59] <blah569> I want to use Linux thoug.
[02:59] <blah569> though*
[02:59] <scguy318> blah569: what do you do?
[02:59] <cafuego> vanberge: Not really.
[02:59] <jrib> cafuego: yes, he has
[02:59] <scguy318> blah569: on Windows
[02:59] <smooker4> yes i created one
[02:59] <jrib> to sda6 anyway
[02:59] <blah569> I mainly do PHP, C++, etc, but I also do Flash.
[02:59] <cabrioleur> Dankchild, if grub is on the second partition then it will not. However, if you did not modify anything from ubuntu install it's in mbr and it will destroy it :-)
[02:59]  * cafuego shuts up
[02:59] <michael> whats the command for installing ndiswrapper
[02:59] <smooker4> but with browser or torrent i cant
[02:59] <nerdsquad3210> smooker you need to set uid 666
[02:59] <vanberge> cafuego, i'm looking for "plug it in, use it with WPA2, and dont have to mess with ndiswrapper"
[02:59] <blah569> Also, .NET.
[03:00] <blah569> And Photoshop CS3.
[03:00] <scguy318> michael: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[03:00] <cabrioleur> michael "apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[03:00] <nerdsquad3210> or was it 777 ?
[03:00] <michael> ty ty
[03:00] <cafuego> vanberge: Yes, atheros. The nice intel ones don't come as external cards.
[03:00] <scguy318> blah569: for programming there are some IDEs of interest on Linux, Flash probably have to run on Wine, if that works
[03:00] <cafuego> vanberge: Though I don't know if they do WPA2/.
[03:00] <blah569> Flash 8 works on WINE, as I've heard, but Flash CS3 doesn't, I think.
[03:00] <scguy318> blah569: .NET devel mebbe Mono/MonoDevelop, CS3 ehhh good luck with that, GIMP may or may not be for you
[03:00] <kelsin> blah569: well code editing is great on linux, there are equivalent (maybe not equal to, but close) versions of everything else except flash
[03:01] <blah569> I prefer Photoshop over Gimp.
[03:01] <vanberge> cafuego, do you use wlan ?
[03:01] <blah569> "The Gimp"
[03:01] <scguy318> smooker4: what's your fstab?
[03:01] <blah569> I mainly do programming.
[03:01] <smooker4> what means fstab ?
[03:01] <cafuego> vanberge: yup
[03:01] <vanberge> cafuego, do you use WPA2 ?  :-)
[03:01] <lwizard1> anyone here use a kworld atsc110 tv card in ubuntu?
[03:01] <scguy318> smooker4: /etc/fstab?
[03:01] <scguy318> smooker4: you are mounting your NTFS part with NTFS-3G and proper fstab entry right?
[03:01] <cafuego> vanberge: WPA1-PEAP afaik
[03:01] <blah569> I'd partion my hard drive and keep Windows, but I can't see a reason to actually install Ubuntu.
[03:02] <nerdsquad3210> fstab is the dir were the system looks for mounting points
[03:02] <kelsin> blah569: I suggest dual booting then, it sounds like you are very attached to the couple of windows-only uses
[03:02] <jrib> how about *one* person help smooker4, I give up
[03:02] <smooker4> my partition is ext3
[03:02] <vanberge> cafuego - that would be fine with me... do you have an atheros card?
[03:02] <kelsin> blah569: well until you try it and realize the power, esp when coding, you probably never will
[03:02] <sethk> blah569, if the performance off the cd is adequate for you, then there is no need.
[03:02] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: fstab isn't a directory, it's a file
[03:02] <nerdsquad3210> can i help smooker4 ?
[03:02] <vanberge> cafuego, right now i can only get my card to connect WEP by using ndiswrapper
[03:02] <nerdsquad3210> pls pls pls
[03:02] <cafuego> vanberge: Atheros, Intel and broadcom. They all work just fine.
[03:02] <peacepipej1> triple booting. xp, buntu and studio. Is there a recommenced spot for /swap for best results? tween buntu and studio fr example or does it not matter
[03:03] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: if you have relevant info, go for it
[03:03] <smooker4> help then y ure asking :(
[03:03] <kelsin> peacepipej1: where swap is doesn't matter at all, if you have one partition they can both use it fine
[03:03] <nerdsquad3210> how very relevant
[03:03] <jc_denton> helo!
[03:03] <scguy318> peacepipej1: don't sweat too much over swap, if you need to be using swap adding RAM is probably a good idea :)
[03:03] <wease|> anybody miss me>
[03:03] <wease|> hehe
[03:03] <nerdsquad3210> no
[03:03] <scguy318> jc_denton: hello
[03:03] <peacepipej1> kelsin: k,thx
[03:04] <blah569> I may just buy another computer and install Ubuntu on that, and use that computer as my "test my software for Ubuntu" computer.
[03:04] <norman> have anyone any luck with gusty network printing
[03:04] <nerdsquad3210> blah569: just install 2 ubuntus on the same computer
[03:05] <cabrioleur> norman, sure. avahi + samba
[03:05] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: why two?
[03:05] <smookerPC1> so.. i guess ill have to move all torrents from my desktop to sda6, not just save them there.
[03:05] <cafuego> blah569: Ubuntu installs and runs just fine in vmware
[03:05] <cwollman> does any one know of a program to run in the cammand line that is a podcast download utility
[03:05] <sethk> norman, sure
[03:05] <Tmang> I know your a busy fellow scguy318 but I Pm'd you when your available
[03:05] <blah569> I have emulated Ubuntu in vBox, but it crashes on my Vista, but it ran fine on my XP, which this laptop doesn't have anymore :(.
[03:05] <scguy318> !register > Tmang (see PM from ubotu)
[03:05] <nerdsquad3210> why not qemu ?
[03:06] <blah569> I never understood qemu
[03:06] <CommonClone> gparted and the installer do not detect my IDE HD, can someone help please?
[03:06] <norman> i have 2 ubuntu machine one desktop one laptop ,did not think i need samba
[03:06] <scguy318> blah569, nerdsquad3210: QEMU is pretty darn slow without the acceleration module or w/e its called
[03:06] <nerdsquad3210> vmware isnt open source
[03:06] <cafuego> How well does qemu run under windows?
[03:06] <jc_denton> can someone help me? i like to know how to check parameters of my parallelport (i got a x1541 cable connected to a 1541 c64 floppy drive)
[03:06] <dark_ninja> norman, you don't, you can just configure cups to share
[03:06] <djtigerwolf> what do i need to know about making an os to make it?
[03:06] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, did you try to look for it in the menu?
[03:06] <dark_ninja> there a gui for that in gutsy, btw
[03:07] <scguy318> cafuego: not very well when I was testing a ReactOS image
[03:07] <cafuego> nerdsquad3210: The bios in your computer is also not open source. But you're still using it.
[03:07] <sethk> jc_denton, you can find info about the hardware in the /sys directory
[03:07] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: which menu?
[03:07] <nerdsquad3210> so is the hardware
[03:07] <scguy318> cafuego: I tried fiddling with acceleration service driver or w/e it's called, but I wasn't particularly versed in the knowledge
[03:07] <jc_denton> k i look there
[03:07] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: exactly
[03:08] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, I think in top right corner there was a disk chooser, a simple pool-out menu.
[03:08] <nerdsquad3210> thats why hardware and software are verydifrent
[03:08] <norman> dark tried  using the gui no luck can you point me to a doc
[03:09] <cafuego> nerdsquad3210: I'm a firm believer in the right-tool-for-the-job philosophy. it makes so much easier.
[03:09] <cabrioleur> norman, samba will give you more control and compatibility, so I recommend.
[03:09] <blah569> Bah, I just wis I had some convinceing reasons to actually use Ubuntu.
[03:09] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: in the installer?
[03:09] <nerdsquad3210> cafuego: what made you comr from debian to ubuntu ?
[03:09] <dark_ninja> norman, if you're in the mood for editing your cups config, here: http://occy.net/printing
[03:10] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, I don't know much about gui's. I did it manually. It took ab. 15 min.
[03:10] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, sorry, yes
[03:10] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: how do I do it manually
[03:10] <dark_ninja> this might also help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882
[03:10] <cafuego> nerdsquad3210: Less PITA to get a decent desktop up and running.
[03:10] <T70K5> I have a question. A virus that is written for windows, will it effect linux?
[03:10] <scguy318> T70K5: no
[03:10] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, manually what. edit partition? open terminal and type parted.
[03:11] <T70K5> thx scguy318
[03:11] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, or sudo parted.
[03:11] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: ok
[03:11] <bazhang_> T70K5: no
[03:11] <nerdsquad3210> some virus are system independent
[03:11] <T70K5> what do you mean by that?
[03:11] <nerdsquad3210> thaey run both on windows and linux
[03:11] <cabrioleur> T70K5, if you run it in wine, in some circumstances, there is a chance for some...
[03:11] <PurpZeY> Howdy
[03:12] <nerdsquad3210> and java for that mater
[03:12] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: Java is a poor platform for malware, slow, and what's there to exploit?
[03:12] <T70K5> oh ok
[03:12] <kiyoshi_wolf> can someone tell me if there is a way to put media controls on the taskbar? like rewind skip and stuff?
[03:12] <nerdsquad3210> scguy318: knolege is power hid it well ;D
[03:12] <kiyoshi_wolf> like wmp does when minimized
[03:12] <jc_denton> 0378-037a : parport0  guess i found it?
[03:13] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: I'm on the live cd, I dont think it will let me
[03:13] <blah569> Does anyone know of another site besides http://www.whylinuxisbetter.com that has convincing reasons to use Ubuntu?
[03:13] <dark_ninja> t70k5, there are root kits designed specifically for linux, but those are extremely rare, and there has never been a "real" propagating virus that has effectively exploited a GNU/Linux system
[03:13] <blah569> Meh, I guess I can do some Googling.
[03:13] <bazhang_> kiyoshi_wolf: yes it is possible
[03:13] <MACscr1077> Anyone know if its possible to dedicated a cpu to a virtual machine?
[03:13] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, pull-out the menu Administration -> partitioning
[03:13] <evan__> hello?
[03:13] <kelsin> blah569: just use it, it's a better way of using a computer, you control it, it's free, it's open, try it for a week and see, nothing ot lose
[03:13] <MACscr1077> Would be cool to get a quad core cpu and run an OS on each one
[03:13] <kiyoshi_wolf> how
[03:13] <cafuego> MACscr1077: Yes, you can.
[03:13] <ae> does anyone know how apache2 knows to display phpmyadmin ? its not in the /var/www folder or in the sites-enabled folder..?
[03:14] <scguy318> MACscr1077: you can't really do that if you mean natively, unless you mean some sort of hypervisor solution
[03:14] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, I think the password for sudo in live-cd is the same as login: ubuntu
[03:14] <bazhang_> kiyoshi_wolf: how adept are you at scripting?
[03:14] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: it says no devices detected and wont let me use the menus
[03:14] <p> What is the best way to convert five wmv files to an xvid video file?
[03:14] <cafuego> it's better to have the hypervisor do it and give 3 CPUs to a REALLY BUSY vm and let the other three idle on a single cpu.
[03:14] <smookerPC1> MACscr1077 with VMWare u can :) i runned in XP 2 Oss before, on AthlonX2
[03:14] <kiyoshi_wolf> uh not at all
[03:14] <dsnyders> HI all!  How do I delete files/folders before a particular date?  I want to clean up some log files.
[03:14] <bazhang_> p: why would you want to do that?
[03:14] <cabrioleur> blah569, there is not much convincing reasons to use ubuntu at all.
[03:14] <Rubin> ae: look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[03:15] <MACscr1077> Im playing with parallels currently
[03:15] <tanlaan> anyone else having problems with firefox installing the flash plugin automatically?
[03:15] <Rubin> ae: though i thought it used to be a symlink in /var/www
[03:15] <cafuego> MACscr1077: Of course, 4 cores doesn't limit you to 4 OSes.
[03:15] <soulrider> !wireless
[03:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:15] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: it says no devices detected and wont let me use the menus
[03:15] <MACscr1077> Was thinking about running xp, ubuntu, osx, and vista =P
[03:15] <p> bazhang_, because two reasons: I want to cat this 5 files in just 1 file. And I want to be free from microsoft plugins
[03:15]  * cafuego runs 12-odd Linux installs on the one box.
[03:15] <scguy318> tanlaan: issue?
[03:15] <smookerPC1> woW
[03:15] <smookerPC1> 12 wow!
[03:15] <tanlaan> scguy318: I'm getting a constant md5sum mismatch while installing it
[03:15] <nerdsquad3210> p whats are the names of the files ?
[03:15] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, open terminal, and type cfdisk
[03:16] <bazhang_> p: best ask in ##windows
[03:16] <cabrioleur> sorry "sudo cfdisk"
[03:16] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: ok
[03:16] <p> nerdsquad3210, file1.wmv file2.wmv file3.wmv...
[03:16] <kiyoshi_wolf> well never mind banshee is close enough
[03:16] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: says cannot open disk drive
[03:16] <kelsin> ae: check /etc/apache2/conf.d as well
[03:16] <tanlaan> scguy318: which for some reason makes it think it's installed when really it says that it wasn't installed *and when you go to a page with flash it doesn't show up*
[03:16] <dark_ninja> dsnyders: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/18849-delete-files-older-than-set-date-number-hours.html
[03:16] <nerdsquad3210> i dont belive you
[03:16] <p> bazhang_, I'm over ubuntu... I'm trying to do my job using mencoder.. Why do I need to ask for a windows user?
[03:17] <scguy318> tanlaan: try doing sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:17] <bazhang_> p: to see if its even possible
[03:17]  * chalcedony waves
[03:17] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, check the cables :-)
[03:17] <jrib> smooker4: what is the output of 'ls -ld /media/sda6/downloads/'
[03:17] <p> bazhang_, off course it is possible to convert.. but I'm looking for the best way
[03:17] <robdig> dsnyders: you can use the find command
[03:17] <cafuego> Lunch time!
[03:18] <bazhang_> p: then use the way you know :}
[03:18] <cabrioleur> go to /dev and type "ls sd*". do you see something?
[03:18] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: cables are all good, vista is on it, but it quit working
[03:18] <nerdsquad3210> bazhang_: LOL
[03:18] <kelsin> p: don't know, but I would probably start looking at mencoder from mplayer first off
[03:18] <p> bazhang_, not working good.. I'm loosing some frames and the audio is being desyncronized
[03:18] <ae> kelsin: thanks
[03:18] <p> kelsin, yes.. I'm trying it too!
[03:18] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, can you at least start loading vista, or it just gives up from the beginning?
[03:18] <tanlaan> scguy318: that should end  up being the same as if I do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree which gives me that error also *along with the plugin thing for firefox*
[03:18] <CommonClone> it will go to the login
[03:19] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: it will go to the login
[03:19] <bazhang_> nerdsquad3210: :}
[03:19] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: but thats it
[03:19] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, type "ls /dev/sd*". can you see anything?
[03:19] <ae> thanks for the help finding the phpahmin reference - it was in conf.d :)
[03:19] <nethuman> 하이
[03:20] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: do I have to sudo that
[03:20] <bazhang_> nethuman: this is an English channel
[03:20] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, no
[03:20] <nerdsquad3210> how is it that the sudo command is suposed to make ubuntu safer ?
[03:20] <nerdsquad3210> roflol
[03:20] <Rubin> nerdsquad3210, one less password to be brute forced
[03:20] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: says "ls: do such file or directory
[03:21] <cabrioleur> bazhang_, this is a channel for everybody, regardless language etc.
[03:21] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have trouble installing netbeans 6.0 on Gutsy? the installer for me hangs at "/usr/share/themes/Glossy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:35: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token" maybe a different theme is called for?
[03:21] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: it helps enforce the proper way to do things, not just opening root shells all over the place
[03:21] <CommonClone> i mean ls: /dev/sd*; No such file or directory
[03:21] <bazhang_> cabrioleur: agreed--as long as they speak English
[03:21] <nerdsquad3210> acant i sudo using several shell at once ?
[03:22] <scguy318> !sudo | nerdsquad3210
[03:22] <ubotu> nerdsquad3210: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:22] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: that's the discussion for your information
[03:22] <cabrioleur> bazhang_, free yourself. speak French!
[03:22] <zetheroo> where are all the avid GIMP users?
[03:22] <nerdsquad3210> cant i sudo using several shell at once ?
[03:22] <bazhang_> merci cabrioleur
[03:22] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: says "ls: /dev/sd*; do such file or directory
[03:22] <cabrioleur> bazhang_, de nada.
[03:23] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, did you try any other distribution?
[03:23] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: no
[03:23] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: but I can
[03:23] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, that would be a good idea. Ubuntu is pranky sometimes.
[03:23] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: ok
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, right here
[03:24] <dark_ninja> help -l
[03:25] <Mikkel> hi, I have a newbie SSH question...
[03:25] <djangelo> hi everybody...
[03:25] <bazhang_> !ask | Mikkel
[03:25] <ubotu> Mikkel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:25] <Mikkel> I'm trying to get a process to persist after I close the SSH session (running a remote server so that's my only access)
[03:25] <Mikkel> heh, sorry :)
[03:26] <kelsin> Mikkel: look into screen
[03:26] <Mikkel> okay, thanks
[03:26] <kelsin> Mikkel:  you run screen on the remote server, run your stuff in there, then Ctrl-a D to disconnect, then you can exit and when you log in later you can "screen -r" to bring it back
[03:26] <Palintheus> yes screen is very useful I use it with irssi
[03:26] <zetheroo> CaptainMorgan: your the avid GIMP user?
[03:26] <kelsin> Mikkel: there are lots of screen tutorials out there, it's a great tool :) I do also Palintheus
[03:27] <filth> greetings chaps!
[03:27] <dippy> is there any way to get AWN to have stacks, like leopard?
[03:27] <filth> Could someone please help me out?
[03:27] <Palintheus> !ask | filth
[03:27] <ubotu> filth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <scguy318> !ask | filth
[03:27] <Mikkel> great, thanks for the help... wasn't sure what to search for :)
[03:28] <filth> Oh thank you ubotu
[03:28] <pike__> i need a torrent client that allows you to set a minimun free disk space i just spent 30 min walking a relative through freeing up space in single user shell any suggestions?
[03:28] <dippy> tell her to stop downloading so much
[03:28] <T70K5> lol
[03:28] <filth> I have issues with games (warsow and sauerbraten) and my audio driveers, or rather, lack of audio drivers. However to add a twist, Amarok still plays audio no worries
[03:29] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, it's "you're" not your
[03:29] <Rubin> pike_, make a partition for your data, and save the torrents there.. when its full its full, without taking down your box
[03:29] <CaptainMorgan> anyone using netbeans on Gutsy ?
[03:29] <scguy318> filth: those games use OSS?
[03:29] <frank_> Capt I have
[03:29] <dippy> STACKS in AWN?
[03:29] <kelsin> pike__: rtorrent can do that, a long with lots of other stuff, it's a command line torrent client though, I love it
[03:29] <filth> I am not too sure, i think SDL?
[03:29] <joelmontes01> hello everyone
[03:29] <pike__> yeah.. i guess ill need to make a shared partition or somesuch itll need to be gui
[03:29] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, don't send pm's without asking first
[03:30] <kelsin> pike__: well... actually rtorrant can be setup so any .torrents you drop in a file start up
[03:30] <kelsin> pike__: so if it's setup write could be the easiest of them all
[03:30] <zetheroo> CaptainMorgan: so now that you have corrected me on 2 accounts of illegal conduct ... can I ask my question?
[03:30] <joelmontes01> I need to format a hard drive and I want to make sure the data is completely erased. What tool can I use (gui is the best option for me). Thanks
[03:30] <kelsin> pike__: right*
[03:30] <warriorforgod> Would a laptop with a 1.1 Ghz processor, 30 GB Hard drive, and 512 MB of ram be enough to run a light webserver?
[03:31] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, don't ask to ask - that's three. go lookup channel etiquette
[03:31] <kelsin> warriorforgod: def, depends on your definition of "light" of course, but I think so
[03:31] <bazhang_> CaptainMorgan: ease up
[03:31] <filth> Warsow uses Openal and Fg or something
[03:31] <Rubin> warriorforgod, of course. webservers have been in existance since the 80s
[03:31] <pike__> joelmontes01: there is a 'wipe' application but if youre using journaling which ext3 is then its a question of how sure you want to be. a simple rm *; cat /dev/urandom > file.txt; rm file.txt might work as well
[03:32] <zetheroo> CaptainMorgan: ok... three offences .... can PM you now?
[03:32] <dsnyders> joelmontes01, you may want to look into a secure erase tool if it is important that the data be irretrievable.
[03:32] <joelmontes01> pike_, the harddrive had windows before hand
[03:32] <filth> Plase someone help me :(
[03:32] <Rubin> zetheroo, just ask your question, here in this channel, so we all can see if we know the answer. come on..
[03:32] <warriorforgod> OK, next question.  How could I take an installed webserver and clone it to the laptop hard drive?
[03:32] <Palintheus> zetheroo: ask your question in channel, more people to help
[03:32] <filth> ive looked on forums to no success
[03:32] <scguy318> filth: what's the exact nature of the issues? any logs to paste?
[03:32] <Rubin> warriorforgod, erm. you want to clone the whole OS and everything?
[03:32] <frank_> So, Im pretty knew at this, and I'm having trouble with my wireless card, right now I'm wired, and I was wondering if anyone else has a D Link DWL 570 or could help me figure out my issue
[03:32] <filth> one second
[03:33] <warriorforgod> Rubin: yes
[03:33] <frank_> feel free to PM me
[03:33] <pike__> joelmontes01: at my work we have very strick standards for data so that wouldnt work but if its a personal comp it should be fine
[03:33] <Rubin> warriorforgod, theres a freebsd tool calld G4U that can do that for you..
[03:33] <cabrioleur> warriorforgod, dd :-)
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, not right now, too busy -- just shout your question, it probably would've been answered in this time you've spent
[03:33] <nevhood> Hello everyone, when I plug in my headphones, the speakers do not mute.  My sound driver is snd-hda-intel (Realtek High Definition Audio), I have the latest alsa packages, what's wrong?
[03:33] <zetheroo> can you open CMYL PSD files in the GIMP?
[03:33] <kelsin> zetheroo: no
[03:33] <pike__> joelmontes01: just format it ext3 then cat /dev/urandom > /media/myhardrive/file.txt or something
[03:34] <Pici> !traffic
[03:34] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[03:34] <kelsin> zetheroo: right now gimp's internal engine is completely 8bit rgb
[03:34] <pike__> kelsin: ill consider rtorrent
[03:34] <kelsin> pike__: you can set it up so all torrents in a folder get run until space is low or a ratio limit is set (or many other things), will take a sec to setup right, but then requires no thought
[03:34] <jsoftw> ffs.
[03:35] <orochi_> Wow...crazy flooding going on in the other channel
[03:35] <Palintheus> wtf
[03:35] <smultron> if i order a T1 line, i'd need a T1 card, right? it's not just standard ethernet?
[03:35] <jonez> that was... neat
[03:35] <jonez> smultron: correct.
[03:35] <CaptainMorgan> amazing that the DCC hack is still affecting people
[03:36] <jsoftw> what dcc hack
[03:36] <zetheroo> ok... has this room stopped its glitching?
[03:36] <riotkittie>  CaptainMorgan: not that amazing. people are 1 - uninformed and/or 2: lazy
[03:36] <itrebal> did I excess flood in here?
[03:36] <orochi_> Anyway :> Hello...I'm creating a GPG key so that I can sign e-mail correspondences over webmail...what would be a reasonable key size to ensure that the e-mails can't be read by, e.g. Google's casual scanning for advertisments? :>
[03:36] <zetheroo> gosh that was nerve-wrecking
[03:36] <smultron> jonez: do they sell any converter boxes or anything like that?
[03:36] <riotkittie> only four?
[03:36] <riotkittie> oops.
[03:36] <Eje004> So, Im pretty knew at this, and I'm having trouble with my wireless card, right now I'm wired, and I was wondering if anyone else has a D Link DWL 570 or could help me figure out my issue
[03:37] <kelsin> orochi_: pretty much anything, the default gpg key size is plenty
[03:37] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: it wasn't a dcc hack.  we can discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <Eje004> feel free to PM me
[03:37] <scguy318> !wifi | Eje004
[03:37] <ubotu> Eje004: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:37] <scguy318> Eje004: [21:24:06] <scguy318> well, it's the only one I've used so far
[03:37] <scguy318> [21:24:09] <scguy318> so yeah I guess
[03:37] <scguy318> oops
[03:37] <Eje004> I looked at all that
[03:37] <Rubin> orochi_, gpg has a readme that explains the keysizes
[03:37] <Ashfire908> xchat users: to flush you send q, use the command /FLUSHQ
[03:37] <scguy318> Eje004: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto may be of interest
[03:37] <zetheroo> umm.... I was asking about the GIMP ... and the whole room just become a mess ... so I had to close Pidgin to stop all these error messages from appearing..... anyone answer my question?
[03:38] <kelsin> zetheroo: gimp's engine is only rgb 8bit
[03:38] <CaptainMorgan> nalioth, no thanks
[03:38] <Eje004> thanks
[03:38] <orochi_> kelsin, Rubin: Thanks, I'll take both of those into consideration :> Maybe I'll take a look at the whole README anyway
[03:38] <kelsin> zetheroo: it can not open cmyk or anything above 8bits per channel
[03:38] <itrebal> is it possible to change a user's password if tye don't remember what it is?
[03:38] <kelsin> itrebal: root can, (or a sudo user)
[03:39] <itrebal> root is disabled, and theres only one account
[03:39] <nevhood> Hello everyone, on my Toshiba laptop with Realtek High Definition Audio (snd-hda-intel), the speakers do not mute when headphones are plugged in.  I am running the latest alsa packages.  Any suggestions?
[03:39] <zetheroo> kelsin: ok... see I heard that using a Plugin you can open CMYK images which will be converted to RGB  -- which is how they can be edited --- and then you can save them again as CMYK......
[03:39] <kelsin> itrebal: then no, you can mount that drive from a live cd probably and do it
[03:40] <kelsin> zetheroo: probably, google for it, imagemagick (convert etc) can probably do that too, but for editing them, no
[03:40] <itrebal> are the passwords stored in /etc/shaddow unique to a specific computer? or can any computer generate them
[03:40] <jerbear> could there be a frickin update that doesn't kill suspend??
[03:40] <riotkittie> jerbear: no. :P
[03:40] <Rubin> itrebal, you mean can you copy them from one to another? yes
[03:40] <techqbert> any1 know where I can get an webmail e-mail address w/o typing a billion forms?  I'd prefer an obscure site.
[03:40] <itrebal> ok, thanks
[03:40] <zetheroo> kelsin: also why is there a CMYL panel in the GIMP?
[03:40] <jerbear> i'm assuming there are others who have broken suspend?
[03:40] <kelsin> itrebal: any computar with the same crypt() function (which is pretty much all) can
[03:40] <Rubin> jerbear, suspend/hibernate is a kinda risky endevor with linux still these days
[03:41] <smooker> hmm
[03:41] <smooker> my other PC got forwarded to another channel
[03:41] <jerbear> Rubin: seemed to work perfectly with feisty...
[03:41] <smooker> SmookerPC1/Smooker4
[03:41] <kelsin> zetheroo: what panel are you talking about?
[03:41] <Rubin> jerbear, its working ok for me .. its hardware dependant
[03:41] <itrebal> thanks
[03:41] <Rubin> jerbear, try searching for your laptop, and ubuntu or linux on google..
[03:41] <dsnyders> techqbert, have you tried your isp?  Most of them have web interfaces for email these days.
[03:42] <jerbear> Rubin: like i said, it worked perfectly in feisty and it worked for a while in gutsy... it only broke with the latest os updates... hardly a hardware issue
[03:42] <kelsin> zetheroo: do you mean the cmyk color selector?
[03:42] <techqbert> dsnyders: I need an obscure e-mail provider.  I have gmail comcast hotmail accts
[03:42] <Rubin> jerbear, could still be. depends on what drivers you have loaded etc
[03:42] <zetheroo> kelsin: I open the GIMP and in the Layers. Channels etc panel there is a CMYK color selector
[03:42] <zetheroo> yes
[03:42] <Rubin> jerbear, what happens?
[03:43] <jerbear> Rubin: don't think so, sorry.... nothing has changed except for the latest update
[03:43] <kelsin> zetheroo: yeah just a color selector, images are only internally respresented as 8-bit rgb
[03:43] <jerbear> Rubin: it seems to suspend fine, but when it tries to resume, it goes into this endless loop of nothing, then a black screen with mouse, then nothing
[03:43] <zetheroo> kelsin: ok... but you can import and export CMYK to and from RGB with the help of a Plugin ... right!?
[03:44] <Rubin> jerbear, sounds like X is crashing/restarting/crashing hmm
[03:44] <Rubin> jerbear, what kind of videocard?
[03:44] <kelsin> zetheroo: you said that not me, probably, that would make sense
[03:45] <jerbear> Rubin: intel mobile 915gm/gms/910gml express graphics
[03:45] <AgentHeX> anyone know how i can get Pidgin to load on startup?
[03:45] <alfermp_> i have that one jerbear
[03:45] <zetheroo> has anyone here ever had success importing a CMYK PSD file into the GIMP using a plugin?
[03:45] <scguy318> AgentHeX: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> last tab
[03:45] <alfermp_> AgentHeX, got to
[03:45] <Rubin> jerbear, hmm that chipset is still a bit buggy driverwise from what i have read. what laptop is it?
[03:45] <scguy318> AgentHeX: then jam the save session button with Pidgin running
[03:45] <jerbear> alfermp_: yeh, i doubt it has anything to do with the vid card
[03:46] <jerbear> Rubin: no problems with vid card... works fine
[03:46] <[gquit]bombadil> i just installed a bunch of updates, and now when i start pidgin it gets stuck in some sort of infinite loop
[03:46] <AgentHeX> scguy318: perfect, thanks.
[03:46] <alfermp_> AgentHeX,  system > preference > sessions
[03:46] <Rubin> jerbear, you are having problems though...
[03:46] <[gquit]bombadil> does anyone know where pidgin keeps its config files
[03:46] <techqbert> what's the best vncviewer in the repos?
[03:46] <stib> I'm having trouble restoring a linux partition. I copied the partition using dd and installed grub but when I boot I get a kernel panic: "not synching VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)" thoughts anyone?
[03:46] <AgentHeX> alfermp_: got it already, thanks.
[03:46] <AgentHeX> scguy318: now, might you know how to get the nvidia restricted driver to work in Xen?
[03:47] <jerbear> Rubin: not with my video card... how you got to video card problems from suspend not working is beyond me
[03:47] <scguy318> AgentHeX: not really unfortunately
[03:47] <AgentHeX> :(
[03:47] <Rubin> jerbear, just guessing
[03:47] <Rubin> thats usually where suspend falls down
[03:47] <kelsin> AgentHeX: in a xen Dom0 or DomU?
[03:47] <jerbear> Rubin: i've never seen that
[03:47] <zetheroo> anyone know how to get Skype to follow the rest of Ubuntu font size and look?
[03:48] <jerbear> Rubin: not to say that it's not possible... just never seen it
[03:48] <lgc> !governors
[03:48] <Rubin> jerbear, try ctrl-alt-f1 a few times after resume, see if you can get a text console
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about governors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <lgc> !governor
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about governor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <riotkittie> whatcha wanna know about governors?
[03:48] <jerbear> Rubin: that's a good idea.. i'll try that... at least it will tell me if it's X or not
[03:48] <Rubin> jerbear, also try looking in /var/log/Xorg.*
[03:49] <scguy318> lgc: the governor in California wouldn't mind terminating processes :P
[03:49] <HashBox> hey quick question guys, if I ran a 32 bit OS, could I still run 64 bit applications? or does the OS need to be 32 bit?
[03:49] <stib> zetheroo: try looking for your DPI settings in Xorg
[03:49] <riotkittie>  HashBox the app needs to be 32 bit, afaik
[03:49] <kelsin> HashBox: if you mean apps compiled for 64bit no
[03:49] <jerbear> Rubin: nothing out of the ordinary there
[03:49] <HashBox> damn
[03:50] <Rubin> jerbear, is it a thinkpad?
[03:50] <jerbear> Rubin: yes, t43
[03:50] <[gquit]bombadil> what is the command to upgrade your kernel in 7.10?
[03:50] <Rubin> jerbear, oh, try adding the .. what was it. 1 sec
[03:51] <zenwryly> How can I find out what is running on a given port?  localhost:8082 returns a web page and I'm wondering what it is.
[03:51] <Rubin> jerbear, try adding acpi_sleep=s3_bios
[03:51] <kelsin> zenwryly: "sudo lsof | grep 8082" will help, you can also nmap yourself
[03:51] <jerbear> Rubin: to what? the kernel options?
[03:51] <Rubin> to your boot config (/boot/grub/menu.1st, after ro quiet splash)
[03:52] <jerbear> Rubin: do you have any docs on that?
[03:52] <jerbear> Rubin: or links
[03:52] <Rubin> on editing menu.1st or on the acpi thing?
[03:52] <jerbear> Rubin: just curious to what it is before i add it
[03:52] <zenwryly> kelsin: thanks, I'll try that
[03:52] <Rubin> jerbear, i had to do that on my T61 before suspend worked
[03:52] <Rubin> i got it off the thinkwiki.org page
[03:53] <jerbear> Rubin: i'll see if i can find some info on it
[03:53] <jerbear> Rubin: may jump off irc to test
[03:53] <Rubin> acpi is the bios interface that suspend uses
[03:53] <Rubin> and that puts it into some other mode
[03:54] <jerbear> Rubin: going to try it out... brb
[03:54] <macabro22> how do I add a directory to my PATH??
[03:54] <jrib> macabro22: why?
[03:54] <kelsin> macabro22: the system path is in /etc/environment , or you can add a line to your .bashrc
[03:54] <macabro22> jrib: I want  to add skype to my path
[03:55] <jrib> macabro22: what is the full path to the skype binary?
[03:55] <al-_-Gir> someone here use Digg ?
[03:55] <greenmanspirit> hello, has anyone else had trouble with flash working on 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:55] <macabro22> jrib: ~/programas/skype/skype_static-1.4.0.118-oss$
[03:55] <smuggle> hello all
[03:56] <kelsin> greenmanspirit: a lot of people, flash is a 32bit program, if you google you will find a lot
[03:56] <jrib> macabro22: easiest way is to just put a symlink in /usr/local/bin/
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[03:56] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:56] <greenmanspirit> kelsin: I just find it funny that the plugin is availible in the repos but it doesnt work
[03:56] <macabro22> jrib: how exactly?
[03:56] <kelsin> greenmanspirit: I was unaware the plugin was avaiable, on my 64bit servers it isn't
[03:56] <jrib> macabro22: sudo ln -s TARGET NAME
[03:57] <smuggle> greenmanspirit: i don't see big difference between 32bits and 64bits to end user... except the headache...rsrrsrs
[03:57] <al-_-Gir> someone know about open source alternative to skype ?
[03:57] <smuggle> greenmanspirit: lol
[03:57] <jrib> macabro22: target will be the path to skype and name will be /usr/local/bin/skype
[03:57] <scguy318> al-_-Gir: Ekiga, though it can't utilize the Skype network
[03:57] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: if using Gutsy, just install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[03:57] <jerbear> Rubin: worked like a charm, man... thanks for the tip
[03:57] <macabro22> jrib: so "sudo ln -s ~/programas/skype/skype_static-1.4.0.118-oss/skype?
[03:57] <macabro22> jrib: just one thing
[03:57] <jrib> macabro22: no
[03:57] <jerbear> Rubin: it actually seemed to resume almost 3 times as fast
[03:58] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: thats what I did and sites like youtube tell me that I do not have flash installed
[03:58] <kelsin> greenmanspirit: I take that back :) my servers are still running fiesty, unfortunately I don't know anything about 64 flash plugin since my servers don't need it
[03:58] <macabro22> jrib: I can't run skype by typing skype. I have to go to its directory and do ./skype
[03:58] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: strange, you're not using NoScript by any chance are you? :P
[03:59] <jrib> macabro22: yes, creating the symlink resolves that, but you did not write the correct command
[03:59] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: I don't know what that is, so im guessing no
[03:59] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: strange, try reinstalling flashplugin-nonfre by doing sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[03:59] <chalcedony> i need to be able to use this for something i need to do, can anyone help me? spark_2_5_8.tar.gz  i untarred .. but now what?
[04:00] <Chadwick|359> Okay, strange question to be asking in an Ubuntu room, but does anybody know of a good backup program for Windows? I'm looking to back up to a rotating set of flash drives
[04:00] <macabro22> jrib: "sudo ln -s ~/programas/skype/skype_static-1.4.0.118-oss$ skype"?
[04:00] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, my computer is having problems.  I just rebooted, fsck is doing a check every 30 mounts, and it stopped at 70% and said "Duplicate or bad block in use"
[04:00] <bazhang> Chadwick|359: why not ask in ##windows?
[04:00] <JDSBlueDevl> what does that mean?
[04:00] <kelsin> Chadwick|359: I would read the README or INSTALL files in the tarball
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Chadwick|359: you can clone partitions or drives with the dd command
[04:00] <kelsin> Chadwick|359: rsync I think has a windows binary
[04:01] <kelsin> Chadwick|359: that readme line was not for you sorry about that
[04:01] <jrib> macabro22: no, I'm not sure where you are getting the $ unless that is actually the name of the file.  And for name, you want to give /usr/local/bin/skype unless you are in /usr/local/bin/
[04:01] <kelsin> chalcedony: I would look at the README or INSTALL file in the tarball
[04:01] <JDSBlueDevl> can anyone give an explanation?
[04:01] <bazhang> Chadwick|359: also there is a program called windows backup (can't believe I know that)
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> jrib or unless you have it in your $PATH.
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[04:01] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: for some reason it says that there is an md5sum mismatch and that it is not installing the plugin
[04:01] <Chadwick|359> kelsin, heh, okay
[04:01] <jrib> r00tintheb0x: nope
[04:01] <godemonite> hellllooooo
[04:02] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: can you pastebin? someone just said something about md5 a bit ago
[04:02] <chalcedony> kelsin: ty :) i looked at the read me.
[04:02] <ayanph> does anyone know why i'm getting a missing file when i try to upgrade from ubuntu 7.04 to 7.1 message says missing "Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubufox/ubufox_0.4~beta1-0ubuntu4_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]"
[04:02] <JDSBlueDevl> can anyone help with the "Duplicate or bad block in use" error I'm getting with fsck?
[04:02] <tim167> hello,  I want to make a searchable database of the content of all my harddisks, what's an easy way to do that ?
[04:02] <kelsin> ayanph: as a side note, it's 7.10, not 7.1, but did you try again? Maybe you just got a bad mirror
[04:02] <jrib> ayanph: run 'sudo apt-get update'?  try a different mirror?
[04:02] <bazhang> ayanph: could be a network connection most likely
[04:03] <kelsin> tim167: locate
[04:03] <sethk> tim167, you mean the file names, or the file contents?
[04:03] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46906/
[04:03] <wasabi> Um. What package has /usr/bin/aclocal?
[04:03] <tim167> kelsin, yes, but doesnt that only search the currently connected harddisks ?
[04:03] <wasabi> No alternative in automake. Which is what I expected to see.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JDSBlueDevl: the equivalent in windows is a cross linked file.. what is the format on that drive
[04:03] <macabro22> jrib: thanks I fixed it!
[04:03] <JDSBlueDevl> ext3
[04:03] <godemonite> o.o
[04:03] <tim167> sethk i want to be able to search for a file, without the (usb-) disks all connected
[04:04] <jrib> wasabi: automake *is* the package you want
[04:04] <ayanph> thanks for the headsup. i'm gonna try it now
[04:04] <kelsin> tim167: I'm pretty sure you can connect them all, run a update to the db saving it to a different file, then run locate on that file
[04:04] <tim167> sethk so that i know what disk it is on, and also a search like that will be 100x faster that searching the actual disks
[04:04] <wasabi> jrib: Guessed that much. What about the aclocal binary? THere are the various aclocal-N.M versions.
[04:04] <JDSBlueDevl> Jack_Sparrow: ext3
[04:04] <sethk> tim167, you can use updatedb.  By default it will index all files, but you can use an argument to limit the files and write to a different database
[04:04] <chalcedony> kelsin: i don't see an 'install file' in `spark_2_5_8.tar.gz' 's buffer. how do i find it?
[04:04] <kelsin> tim167: otherwise just connect all of the discs and do a big "find ." then save that in a file and grep
[04:05] <Rubin> hrm. anyone know where the compiz blacklist file is? i heard that my card should be supported now, but i still cant enable it
[04:05] <sethk> arguments, actually, one to change the data file and one to limit the indexed files
[04:05] <kelsin> chalcedony: I was saying you should see if there are any help files in the tarball, look for README and INSTALL and follow them
[04:05] <sethk> tim167, there are other ways, you can make a list of all files, remove the ones in the directories you don't want, then sort the list.  With an editor you'll find the file you want in a few seconds
[04:05] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: gimme a sec
[04:06] <sethk> tim167, locate is more automatic, obviously.  (updatedb makes the database, and locate uses the database)
[04:06] <ayanph> it's working so far
[04:06] <ayanph> thanks guys
[04:06] <jrib> wasabi: what about them?  You get a version for the version of automake you installed and you use update-alternatives to configure it
[04:06] <sethk> tim167, when you use an argument to change the data file with updatedb, you have to use the same argument with locate to tell it to use the file.
[04:06] <wasabi> jrib: update-alternatives tells me there is no aclocal alternative
[04:06] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: is it possible that adobe updated the tar and that the package hasn't been updated to match it?
[04:06] <jrib> wasabi: automake
[04:06] <JDSBlueDevl> Jack_Sparrow: what do I do with the "Duplicate or bad block in use" thing, then, with an ext3 drive?
[04:06] <tim167> kelsin, sethk, ok I can try that, I'll have to look into man locate a bit more, especially to find out how to save the db to another file...
[04:06] <tsukasa> question, how do i fdisk a external usb drive
[04:07] <wasabi> jrib: Yeah, and what about aclocal? heh
[04:07] <interation> help:how do i install yahoo messenger
[04:07] <kelsin> tim167: after you complete you can just stick some alias's in .bashrc like "usb-search" "usb-update" or something
[04:07] <Rubin> interation, use pidgen instead
[04:07] <jrib> wasabi: it updates aclocal as well (try)
[04:07] <sethk> tim167, that part is easy, just -X /path (it's not X, I'll look up the specific argument, but you know what I mean)
[04:07] <wasabi> I'm asking because it didn't.
[04:07] <jrib> wasabi: wfm
[04:07] <tim167> sethk can i incrementally add filelists from several harddisks to one locate db file (one after the other, i have not enough usb interfaces to connect all harddisks at once) ?
[04:07] <sethk> tim167, use the long form:  locate --database=/path/to/file
[04:08] <jrib> wasabi: what does aclocal point to now?
[04:08] <regeya> wheee
[04:08] <kitofhawaii> tsukasa: sudo fdisk /dev/<externaldriveid>
[04:08] <sethk> tim167, I believe so, let me check.
[04:08] <wasabi> jrib: Nothing. THe link does not exist.
[04:08] <jrib> wasabi: purge automake and reinstall it
[04:08] <interation> rubin:pidgen?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> JDSBlueDevl: sorry I was reading about your problem.  I found several references to the problem. but no soultions.  If you had a backup you could format the partition and reinstall it.. NOt a good choice I am sure
[04:09] <Rubin> interation, its an IM client that supports all the major services
[04:09] <Rubin> interation, used to be called gaim
[04:09] <interation> thank
[04:09] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: that's entirely possible
[04:09] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: lemme test reinstallation
[04:09] <interation> rubin: thank you
[04:09] <sethk> tim167, I don't see a way to do that, however, what you can do is create a tree full of symbolic links with the same path name as the real files (when those files are mounted)
[04:10] <jrib> wasabi: if you read the automake postinst files, you see what is supposed to happen
[04:10] <wasabi> jrib: Heh. Did that, still nothing. Will read them.
[04:11] <jrib> wasabi: does 'update-alternatives --display automake' list aclocal as a slave?
[04:11] <chalcedony> Rubin: i still have gaim .. ubuntu feisty
[04:11] <tim167> sethk, hmm that sounds complicated to me....  maybe i can just do updatedb specifieing a different filename each time, and then concatenate those afterwards ?
[04:11] <wasabi> jrib: /etc/alternatives/aclocal exists... there's just no /usr/bin/aclocal
[04:11] <Peddy> there was a massive update today.. has anyone else got this (wondering if its just me)?
[04:11] <wasabi> annoying
[04:11] <sethk> tim167, yes, you can certainly do that
[04:11] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: I can confirm, I have a tar that works tho
[04:11] <sethk> tim167, then you can write a wrapper script that queries each one
[04:11] <treitter> I'm trying to burn ~4.4 GiB of data to a DVD, but I only have 1.9 GiB free in /tmp. I've set my gconf key /apps/nautilus-cd-burner/temp_iso_dir to a location with plenty of room, but nautilus-cd-burner doesn't seem to respect it. Anyone know why it wouldn't?
[04:11] <treitter> this guy seems to have the same problem as me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484287
[04:11] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: I can confirm, I have a tar that works tho
[04:12] <sethk> treitter, I'm not sure why, but rename /tmp, then make /tmp a symlink to the path with the space
[04:12] <kelsin> tim167: looks like you can make a db of each and then in your .bashrc put them in a env var LOCATE_PATH
[04:12] <jrib> wasabi: meh, may be easier to just create the symlink
[04:12] <treitter> sethk: is that safe on a live system?
[04:12] <wasabi> yeah that's what i'm thinking.
[04:12] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: so is my best bet to sit and wait till the person in charge of the package fixes it?
[04:12] <kelsin> tim167: it's in the locate man page, do then you can have locate search your system db and the db's for each usb drive
[04:12] <wasabi> I'm running update-alternatives manually and it's not working
[04:12] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: or I can give you the tar I have
[04:12] <linuxftw> umm so im in my /home$ how do i execute  chmod +x ./ipodpatcher on one fille named ipodpatcher?
[04:12] <jaru> hello
[04:12] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: the package checks if you have a local copy and installs from there
[04:12] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: lemme pastebin
[04:12] <whta> trying to play stepmania with the fglrx driver gives me a really flickery game window. how can i fix that?
[04:12] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: ok
[04:12] <kelsin> linuxftw: you type "chmod +x ~/ipodpatcher" in a terminal
[04:13] <sethk> treitter, potentially something might have a file open in /tmp.  Use lsof to check
[04:13] <tim167> kelsin cool, thanks, I'll try it out
[04:13] <treitter> sethk: yeah, a ton of ORBit files are open
[04:13] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[04:14] <jaru> I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty now I can't start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:14] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: after you save this
[04:14] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: tell me where you saved it and I'll tell you what command to do
[04:14] <mosno> uh, why would you use rapidshare for flashplayer?
[04:14] <scguy318> mosno: because Adobe updated their tarball, causing flashplugin-nonfree to whine about md5sum error
[04:14] <scguy318> mosno: this is the tarball that flashplugin-nonfree likes
[04:14] <sethk> tim167, kelsin looks like you can do the same thing by setting --database=<path> to a directory, implying use all files in the directory.
[04:15] <wasabi> this is silly.
[04:15] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: looks like I'll file a bug if one hasn't already been reported
[04:15] <jaru> start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> treitter: you are trying to burn a dvd from the livecd, which will write a large temp file.  How much ram.. Sorry, I am a little slow and confused tonight
[04:15] <tim167> sethk heh nice :)
[04:15] <wasabi> it stopped installing 'automake't oo
[04:15] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: ok, I was going to do that if no one in here was able to help me
[04:15] <mosno> scguy318: so how do you prevent the preinst of flashplugin-nonfree from fetching the crap version anyway?
[04:15] <sethk> tim167, I wouldn't have found that if kelsin hadn't mentioned a path variable.
[04:15] <treitter> Jack_Sparrow: not from a LiveCD, this is a full install. I've got 2 GiB of RAM, but that's not enough to cache the entire ISO before burning
[04:15] <jansenq> 123
[04:15] <jansenq> 1234
[04:16] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: its on my desktop
[04:16] <scguy318> mosno: you stick the copy it wants into /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[04:16] <jansenq> sorry about that.  screen went funny
[04:16] <scguy318> mosno: then it sees local copy, and installs from it
[04:16] <treitter> this really wouldn't be a problem, but it looks like some bug is preventing nautilus-cd-burner from reading the appropriate gconf key
[04:16] <mosno> scguy318: cool
[04:16] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: ok, do
[04:16] <jaru> start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> treitter: Sorry I saw your comment to sethk and thought you were talking about your system running live..
[04:17] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: sudo cp ~/Desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <jaru> I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty now I can't start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:17] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: then sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <sethk> treitter, you might try adding the variable definition to .bashrc, to make sure it's seen by a subshell
[04:17] <treitter> I guess I could try k3b. Man, I wish it didn't come to this. That app makes me feel like I'm drowning in a see of superfluous widgets
[04:17] <scguy318> jaru: go to Recovery Console, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and select vesa, then boot normally, if no work
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jaru: hitting escape as you power up should get you to a menu for recovery mode
[04:17] <sethk> treitter, that shouldn't be necessary if the variable is exported, but it's a bug, so who knows?
[04:18] <scguy318> jaru: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, select vesa, follow prompts, boot normally
[04:18] <Dankchild> hey guys i just installed windows, and i went to my computer and it didnt show this partiton, what should i do?
[04:18] <linuxftw> chmod +x ./ipodpatcher i akm trying to execute that command on a file in my home drive can anyone help me?
[04:18] <treitter> sethk: which variable? It's a gconf key. And I've logged out and back in since setting it
[04:18] <linuxftw> dankchild.. um windows dosn't show up?
[04:18] <linuxftw> ot linux?
[04:18] <linuxftw> or*
[04:18] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: thanks a lot
[04:18] <scguy318> Dankchild: you need to install an ext2 partition
[04:18] <scguy318> Dankchild: I mean, driver
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: Does gparted show it..
[04:19] <sethk> treitter, I thought you were talking about an environment variable.  You would almost have to be, as the program runs (I believe) even if you aren't running gnome
[04:19] <jaru> scguy318: How do I access Recovery Consle
[04:19] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: its works perfectly now
[04:19] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: cool
[04:19] <Dankchild> yes gparted shows it.
[04:19] <Dankchild> k, i need a ext2 driver. makes sence
[04:19] <Dankchild> sense*
[04:19] <scguy318> Dankchild: you need to install ext2 driver from fs-driver.org
[04:19] <jaru> scguy318: is that where i press esc at beginng?
[04:19] <scguy318> jaru: yep
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: So it just isnt mounted in your ubuntu install since you just added it to the system.. Is that the issue so far
[04:19] <RedHeron_> So.... how long will my connection remain open?
[04:19] <Dankchild> accually i need to install all of my drivers lol.
[04:20] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: no, my ubuntu partiton didnt show up in windows.
[04:20]  * RedHeron_ is here 2x and after 5 days the connection still hasn't died.
[04:20] <jaru> scguy318: I edit the boot kernal to add those or do i just boou in recovery mode
[04:20] <scguy318> jaru: boot in recovery mode then run the command I mentioned
[04:20] <RedHeron_> the *first* connection, rather.
[04:20] <jaru> scguy318: thank you i will try now
[04:20] <treitter> sethk: ah, no. I'm trying to use nautilus-cd-burner to burn a DVD, and it's not reading a gconf key, so it's trying to create a DVD ISO in /tmp, but my /tmp doesn't have enough room for it, so it's failing. nautilus-cd-burner would only be running if nautilus is running and I'm trying to burn a disc
[04:20] <scguy318> RedHeron_: IRC connection? nevar unless IRC server goes down for some reason
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: ext2f2_1_10c is the one I use
[04:21] <bazhang> RedHeron_: the connection to irc? or the internets?
[04:21] <michael> anyone know the command to install/run ndiswrapper?
[04:21] <RedHeron_> IRC
[04:21] <scguy318> michael: did you see my link?
[04:21] <sethk> treitter, do a chroot and make the desired directory named "/tmp" that way
[04:21] <scguy318> michael: I thought I linked you to Ubuntu Wiki guide
[04:21] <RedHeron_> I've disconnected and been away for 4 days.
[04:21] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: awesome ill look for that one.
[04:21] <RedHeron_> Rebooted my system.
[04:21] <RedHeron_> Still here.
[04:21] <michael> scguy318_: i think i tried it and it didnt show meh, or didnt work, try again
[04:22] <scguy318> michael: what didn't work?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava  might be it
[04:22] <michael> scguy318: the commands on teh page
[04:22] <bazhang> RedHeron_: well if you are all setup via your irc client then you will always have a place
[04:22] <kelsin> treitter: you could try gnome-baker or brasero
[04:23] <Dankchild> oh and one more question i know it isnt ubuntu related, none of my drivers are installed on windows, do i have to find and install each one by themselves or is there and automatic program for that?
[04:23] <treitter> kelsin: brasero is based on nautilus-cd-burner, I believe. But I'll check out gnome-baker. Thanks!
[04:23] <RedHeron_> Or never, depending on how you look at it, bazhang.
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: No idea why I have that link for ext2 ?
[04:23] <bazhang> RedHeron_: indeed
[04:23]  * RedHeron_ didn't quit!
[04:23] <scguy318> michael: well what happened when you tried to do it?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[04:23] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: hah yeah i delt with that problem a long time ago =p
[04:24] <limecat> is there an easy way to create and install ubuntu onto LVM groups, WITHOUT an alternate CD? like, from within the live cd?
[04:24] <adamonline45> Anyone know of a good tutorial for manually connecting a bluetooth mouse?
[04:24] <limecat> my windows $MBR got screwed, and i really dont feel like repairing it right now :\
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: Yea, for windows you will need to hunt down each driver.. Lots of fun.  The ext2 driver thought works great
[04:25] <syedhali> hello
[04:25] <HateX> does anyone use an irc client other than xchat bitchx that they enjoy
[04:25] <ferret> Apart from being pretty slow ;p
[04:25] <kelsin> HateX: irssi
[04:25] <ferret> HateX: irssi
[04:25] <limecat> HateX: irssi
[04:25] <bazhang> konversation
[04:25] <adamonline45> pidgin
[04:25] <scguy318> HateX: mIRC :P
[04:26] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: cool man thanks saved me some time. haha, one more thing, is there a device manager on ubuntu? i dont rememver every model of each part.
[04:26] <HateX> lil well it's settled than
[04:26] <prothoss> noob question time! What are the advantages of Ubuntu over Debian?
[04:26] <syedhali> I need help with installation of the printer Laxmark Z715
[04:26] <syedhali> on Ubuntu
[04:26] <Falican> i just installed the python-mysqldb package but python isn't finding it is there something extra i need to do (i used the synaptic package manager btw)
[04:26] <wasabi> HateX: less anarchy
[04:26] <wasabi> Oops
[04:26] <wasabi> wrong person
[04:26] <wasabi> prothoss: less anarchy
[04:26] <limecat> prothoss: as i understand it, ubuntus just designed to be more friendly/useable for normal person
[04:26] <kelsin> prothoss: more current software, lots of work on desktop integration and support of common hardware
[04:26] <wasabi> It would be better stated that Ubuntu is "designed"
[04:26] <bazhang> prothoss: this channel :}
[04:26] <kelsin> prothoss: (when I say more current I mean compared to debian's stable and testing branch)
[04:26] <wasabi> Debian is "design by committee". The vision is mostly everybody packages their own thing for their own reasons.
[04:27] <HateX> is irssi easily installable, with apt-get?
[04:27] <utarpradesh> hi, ubuntu doesn't recognise my NTFS partition anymore... i don't know what to do, or even what happened... :'(
[04:27] <prothoss> ah, righto
[04:27] <wasabi> Ubuntu has a more refined goal.
[04:27] <limecat> HateX: yes
[04:27] <kelsin> HateX: yes
[04:27] <limecat> HateX: its a commandline IRC, btw...if you want graphical, pidgin works well
[04:27] <HateX> excellent
[04:27] <utarpradesh> the NTFS partition isn't even on my desktop for me to click anymore
[04:27] <utarpradesh> i don't know how to fix this
[04:27] <scguy318> utarpradesh: did you uncleanly dismount your NTFS partition?
[04:27] <scguy318> utarpradesh: if so a nice boot back to Windows then back to Linux will do it
[04:28] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: or i guess what i mean is a hardware manager
[04:28] <HateX> limecat, ok i was looking for a Super Duper GUI client that has everything
[04:28] <limecat> pidgin
[04:28] <bazhang> konversation
[04:28] <limecat> sorta...its irc is decent, but probably not the best, but it has a ton of plugins
[04:29] <kelsin> HateX: what does xchat not have that you want?
[04:29] <mrfantastic> hey i need some advice...i have an old vaio laptop maybe from 2002 with a 1.0ghz P3 ATI graphics...I have XP running on it, pretty slowly i might add.  does anyone here have any experience with ubuntu with a pc that old?
[04:29] <ayanph> is there an IM software in ubuntu that supports yahoo or msn webcam chat?
[04:29] <limecat> ayanph: kopete might, i dont remember
[04:29] <scguy318> mrfantastic: how old?
[04:29] <ayanph> mrfantastic: try xubuntu
[04:29] <scguy318> ayanph: for MSN aMSN, yahoo gyachi
[04:29] <sethk> ayanph, gaim
[04:29] <mrfantastic> 5 or 6 years
[04:29] <scguy318> mrfantastic: lemme rephrase that, how much mem?
[04:29] <Dankchild> is there a hardware manager on ubuntu? i dont rememver every model of each part.
[04:29] <HateX> kelsin, well somethings like when rightclicking on a person, if you wanted to half-op them the option just isn't there
[04:29] <limecat> sethk: gaim no longer exists
[04:29] <HateX> only voice and op
[04:30] <limecat> its pidgin now
[04:30] <mrfantastic> max 512
[04:30] <ayanph> will try gyachi
[04:30] <Bil1> how come i can not enable ctrl alt button 1 for compiz and none of its features are working
[04:30] <scguy318> Dankchild: there is SYstem -> Prefs -> Hardware Info
[04:30] <sethk> limecat, it exists on my box.  :)  You can still install it.
[04:30] <Dankchild> sweet thanks man
[04:30] <scguy318> mrfantastic: Xubuntu is a good choice, Ubuntu might work well too
[04:30] <kelsin> Dankchild: lspci on the command line will give you info as well
[04:31] <limecat> sethk: heh, any particular reason NOT to upgrade to pidgin?
[04:31] <catach> limecat: lame name?
[04:31] <mrfantastic> so does xubuntu use less resources than ubuntu?
[04:31] <kelsin> mrfantastic: by default yes
[04:31] <ayanph> does that also support webcam --- pidgin that is
[04:31] <mrfantastic> even it uses the same apps?
[04:31] <scguy318> ayanph: no
[04:31] <limecat> catach: i sorta like it :(
[04:31] <ayanph> i see
[04:31] <kelsin> mrfantastic: it's the xfce desktop environment, instead of gnome, so differen base desktop apps
[04:31] <Bil1> can i get some help starting compiz, nothin on it works but i have it
[04:31] <ayanph> too bad
[04:31] <utarpradesh> scguy318: i tried this... windows doesn't even load... or when it does, it's ridiculously slow, i cant even move the mouse
[04:32] <catach> limecat: Hah, good then.
[04:32] <adamonline45> Do I need to install something to use my bluetooth mouse?  When i click on it in my bluetooth manager, It asks me if I'd like to 'save' or 'open' sdp://[blue:tooth:add:ress]/'.  How do I just connect to it?
[04:32] <limecat> telling people to open aim on gaim is sorta confusing, and they keep thinking im talking about aim
[04:32] <kmag> so... gpg breakage recently in Feisty... is this a known issue?  (libreadline symbols not found)
[04:32] <scguy318> utarpradesh: alright, what does sudo mount -a say?
[04:32] <Bil1> and my graphics card is installed and everything, im thinkin its an easy fix
[04:32] <kelsin> mrfantastic: just starts you off by default with a system that uses less resouces, you could also use the atlernate cd and start with a cli system
[04:32] <scguy318> utarpradesh: pastebin what the command sudo mount -a does
[04:32] <Dankchild> all of y'all are so helpful, and yall have made my experiance so far very very enjoyable
[04:32] <Dankchild> experience*
[04:32] <utarpradesh> okay,
[04:32] <utarpradesh> !pastebin
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[04:32] <Bil1> dankchild: thats what i love about ubuntu
[04:32] <ayanph> same here... i'm almost done upgrading to 7.10
[04:32] <scguy318> Bil1: is Compiz enabled?
[04:32] <ayanph> thanks guys for helping
[04:33] <mrfantastic> alright thanks
[04:33] <limecat> anyone have any ideas on doing an LVM install from live cd?
[04:33] <Bil1> scguy318: yes i believe it is, if not how do i make sure?
[04:33] <catach> limecat: that's a good point. Anything to cut down confusion.
[04:33] <bazhang> Dankchild: between here, ubuntuforums and teh google, all of your answers can be found swiftly and pleasantly (or nearly all)
[04:33] <kmag> hey, do any of you have a version of libreadline.so.5 that has _rl_term_dc defined?
[04:34] <utarpradesh> scguy318: it is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46910/
[04:34] <Jangari> having trouble installing software: i tried to install netatalk a while back and it didn't work, now the package tries to reinstall every time I run a synaptic
[04:34] <scguy318> kmag: how would I find out? :P
[04:34] <ayanph> bye guys need to restart to complete the upgrade
[04:34] <Jangari> tried removing, purging, nothing is working,
[04:34] <ayanph> it was nice chatting with you. will definitely go back if i need help in the future
[04:34] <kelsin> kmag: the default ubuntu one doesn't?
[04:35] <scguy318> utarpradesh: then do sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o force
[04:35] <scguy318> Jangari: remove the package, it seems to be broken
[04:35] <kmag> scguy318: objdump -t /lib/libreadline.so.5 | grep _rl_term_dc
[04:35] <scguy318> Jangari: *the package
[04:35] <kmag> kelsin: I did an upgrade this morning and gpg broke :-(
[04:36] <Jangari> apt-get remove netatalk?
[04:36] <don_pucci> hey all
[04:36] <scguy318> kmag: count me out then
[04:36] <don_pucci> can someone help me with a dual boot question
[04:36] <Bil1> may i get help enabling compiz, i believe i do have it enabled but nothing is working, my graphics card is installed properly, i think its somethin easy just cant find it :p
[04:36] <utarpradesh> scguy318: i have done this
[04:36] <utarpradesh> i entered the command
[04:36] <Jangari> Bil1: try rebooting, it worked for me several times.
[04:36] <kmag> oh... my readline is borked
[04:36] <bazhang> Bil1: have youenabled compiz?
[04:37] <Falican>  i just installed the python-mysqldb package but python isn't finding it is there something extra i need to do (i used the synaptic package manager btw)??
[04:37] <Jangari> scguy318: apt-get remove netatalk?
[04:37] <kmag> SYMBOL TABLE:
[04:37] <kmag> no symbols
[04:37] <Bil1> bazhang: i think so but how exactly would i
[04:37] <limecat> noone has help on doing LVM install from live cd? :(
[04:37] <Bil1> jangari: i have restarted
[04:37] <bazhang> Bil1: alt-f2 compiz --replace
[04:37] <don_pucci> i currently have 3 hard discs...one has windows (ide) one is empty (sata) and the third is just files (ide)
[04:37] <scguy318> Jangari: yeah
[04:37] <don_pucci> i want to put ubuntu on the sata drive
[04:38] <don_pucci> but put lilo on the first ide windows drive
[04:38] <kelsin> don_pucci: any reason you want lilo instead of grub? Ubuntu uses grub by default
[04:38] <Jangari> i got an error, scguy318,
[04:38] <don_pucci> sorry..i meant grub
[04:38] <don_pucci> :)
[04:38] <scguy318> Jangari: pastebin it?
[04:38] <kmag> python lost readline support?
[04:38] <Bil1> bazhang: do i need to restart once doing that?
[04:38] <kmag> :-(
[04:38] <Jangari> what's the url for that?
[04:39] <scguy318> !pastebin
[04:39] <bazhang> Bil1: no
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[04:39] <limecat> don_pucci: near the end of the install you can specify which drive grub is placed on
[04:39] <don_pucci> but i dont understand the terminolgy it uses
[04:39] <don_pucci> hda
[04:39] <soulwarp> hey
[04:39] <limecat> hda is gonna be ide
[04:39] <xeroOTG> s
[04:39] <xeroOTG> does anyone here have experience with bcm43xx?
[04:39] <xeroOTG> !bcm43xx
[04:39] <limecat> sda is gonna be sata
[04:39] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[04:39] <don_pucci> oh
[04:39] <don_pucci> thx
[04:39] <don_pucci> i will try it
[04:39] <Bil1> bazhang: how do i enable the initiate ctrl alt button1?
[04:40] <limecat> keep in mind you have 2 ides, so verify which is yer windows drive first
[04:40] <bazhang> Bil1: do you have ccsm installed?
[04:40] <Jangari> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46912/
[04:40] <don_pucci> yes...primary ide
[04:40] <don_pucci> secondary is other drive
[04:40] <Bil1> bazhang: yes sir, im lookin at it
[04:41] <limecat> gnight all, off to repair windows :(
[04:41] <don_pucci> tu again
[04:41] <bazhang> Bil1: do you have the appropriate boxes checked? try some of the keybindings to see
[04:42] <Bil1> bazhang: i have the things i want checked, checked, but i cant enable ctrl alt button1 for some reason, thats what i use to rotate. im thinkin the normal gnome desktop is stoppin me?
[04:42] <kmag> can someone confirm for me that their version of libreadline contains symbols?
[04:43] <riotkittie> Bil1: are you clicking on a window, or an empty section of the desktop?
[04:43] <kmag> objdump -t /lib/libreadline.so.5
[04:43] <Mashi> Hey I'm having trouble getting flash to work in firefox on 7.10. I've enabled the extra repositories, firefox says flash is installed when I attempt to download it, but it gives me a missing plugin when I try to view flash content. Would a manual install fix this?
[04:43] <bazhang> Bil1: ok, try the alt-f2 metacity --replace command, then again with alt-f2 compiz --replace and see if that does it
[04:43] <kmag> I'm hoping I just got a corrupted package
[04:43] <Bil1> riotkittie: i am clicking empty sections, i see that ctrl alt button one is disabled i just cant enable it
[04:43] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[04:44] <kmag> how do I force reinstallation of a package?
[04:44] <mike01> any idea why i get no signal on my monitor unless i boot in recovery mode?
[04:44] <scguy318> kmag: sudo aptitude reinstall package
[04:44] <kitofhawaii> kmag: SYMBOL TABLE: no symbols
[04:44] <scguy318> mike01: you might need to reconfigure xserver
[04:44] <scguy318> mike01: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:44] <mike01> nope
[04:44] <kmag> kitofhawail: have you been having any trouble?
[04:44] <mike01> works fine when i boot the recovery mode
[04:44] <riotkittie> Bil1: bizarre.
[04:44] <kitofhawaii> kmag: none that i'm aware of...:)
[04:45] <scguy318> Mashi: issue, Adobe seems to have updated their tar recently
[04:45] <mike01> but normally as soon as i hit enter in gurb i get no signal on the monitor
[04:45] <mike01> not even getting to where xorg is doing anything
[04:45] <mike01> video card is an 8800gt
[04:45] <bazhang> Bil1: try control alt left or right arrow
[04:45] <utarpradesh> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my iPod as a flash drive??
[04:45] <scguy318> Mashi: do this
[04:45] <Bil1> bazhang: man i felt good about that one, but not a success, still cant enable ctrl alt button1 and the other effects do not work
[04:45] <Dr_willis> mike01,  you may want to disable the frambuffer in the kernel options. You may be able to see any error messages then.
[04:45] <akaran> everyone, what is your default font for desktop?
[04:45] <mike01> if i boot recovery though i can install the newest drivers and run compiz fusion on dual monitors (everything works fine)
[04:45] <Bil1> bazhang: still does what normal ubuntu does
[04:45] <riotkittie> wait. none of the effects work?
[04:45] <scguy318> Mashi: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[04:46] <mike01> but in regular mode i cant even see the command line to fix whatever is wrong
[04:46] <riotkittie> Bil1: what gfx card?
[04:46] <Bil1> riotkittie: yes sir
[04:46] <mike01> just no signal
[04:46] <scguy318> Mashi: after downloading, do
[04:46]  * Dr_willis wonders what recoverymode actually does.
[04:46] <bazhang> Bil1: and you have checked the appearances settings to custom? not in ccsm but appearance
[04:46] <Jangari> scguy318: did you get that paste?
[04:46] <scguy318> Mashi: sudo cp /path/to/tar /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <mike01> Dr_willis how do i disable the framebuffer in the kernel options?
[04:46] <Bil1> riotkittie: its a 256 ati, its installed properly
[04:46] <Mashi> scguy318: Thanks
[04:46] <scguy318> Jangari: no actually, please link
[04:46] <Malekith777> hello
[04:46] <Bil1> bazhang: ah lemme check
[04:46] <bazhang> Bil1: not sure that riotkittie is a sir :}
[04:46] <Dr_willis> mike01,  cant see the console at all. Tat sure sounds like a framebuffer thang.  Notice the recovery mode uses a 'nofb' option. Put that in your grub entry for your normal kernel
[04:46] <Jangari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46912/
[04:47] <Bil1> riotkittie: :p sorry
[04:47] <scguy318> Mashi: then do sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:47] <Dr_willis> mike01,  as a test. yopu could edit the normal boot kernel line and append 'nofb nosplash'  to test.
[04:47] <riotkittie> Bil1: no need to apologize ;)
[04:47] <scguy318> Jangari: try, oh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure netatalk
[04:47] <scguy318> Jangari: or edit a conf file for it to appease it
[04:48] <utarpradesh> how do i access my ipod as a drive rather than as a music device, in ubuntu?
[04:48] <Bil1> bazhang: ok i went to visual effects to custom and it says composite extensions not available
[04:48] <bqmassey> anyone:  is there any reason to use banshee over rythmbox
[04:48] <Jangari> . /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: netatalk is broken or not fully installed
[04:48] <mike01> Dr_willis one word? what exactly do i add to the end of the entry in grub?
[04:49] <bazhang> Bil1: then its a video card driver issue--which card? ati nvidia intel? and which driver
[04:49] <Bil1> bazhang: oh and how do i type your name easier and force quit, thanks very much for your help so far
[04:49] <mwansa>  hey i would like to install cedega from .tgz file, ( i understand .deb is better - just experimenting).. do i just extract the .tgz file to / ?
[04:49] <Bil1> bazhang: its an ati
[04:49] <Dr_willis> mike01,  nofb to disable the framebuffer. nosplash to disalb ethe splash screen  - I change the line 0----->   # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb       then rerun 'update-grub' to make it the defaulkt for all my kernels.
[04:49] <bazhang> Bil1: tab completion--type first three letters then hit tab key ati which card and which drivers
[04:49] <scguy318> Jangari: hmm
[04:49] <zea> hi all somebody has an idea how to start js2mouse whith the sistem startup process?
[04:50] <jaypro> what do you guys use to rip cds?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> mike01,  OR at the grub menu you can hit 'e' to edit the kernel= line and tack those onto the end
[04:50] <mike01> yeah thats what i've been doing everytime i boot
[04:50] <Jangari> i just want to be rid of this damn netatalk
[04:50] <mike01> need to change the grub.list from hd1,1 to hd0,1 everytime...
[04:50] <jaypro> what do you guys use to rip cds? i tried K3b but it doesnt seem to be working
[04:50] <scguy318> Jangari: is there a file named /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf?
[04:50] <bazhang> jaypro: k3b
[04:50] <scguy318> jaypro: dd :P
[04:50] <Bil1> bazhang: im sorry, i dont understand your last message :/
[04:51] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: from terminal, "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" what's the last line say?
[04:51] <mwansa> jaypro, dd
[04:51] <zea> i tried via rc5.d but nothing happend
[04:51] <bazhang> jaypro: need to install plugins
[04:51] <Jangari> i have these two: /usr/share/man/man5/netatalk.conf.5.gz and /var/lib/dpkg/info/netatalk.conffiles
[04:51] <Jangari> they're the only results of a locate netatalk.conf command
[04:51] <lucienium> Hi guys! I just upgraded my distribution from 7.04 to 7.10, after my system restarted "Restart" and "Shut Down" no longer appears when I access the "Quit" menu
[04:51] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: sorry for no pastebin :/         Driver          "kbd"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "mouse"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "synaptics"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "wacom"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "wacom"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "wacom"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "fglrx"
[04:51] <jaypro> bazhang what plugins? i installed the mp3 pluggin, but still gets an error
[04:51] <r00tintheb0x> AWESOME BILL!!!!!
[04:51] <r00tintheb0x> AWESOME BILL!!!!!
[04:51] <bazhang> Bil1: easy nickname completion is done by typing first few letters of said nick (name), and then hitting the 'tab' key on your kb
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> ! flooding  | bill
[04:52] <ubotu> bill: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:52] <mike01> do i leave ro quiet splash on the kernel line?
[04:52] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: lol just wanted the last line...
[04:52] <bazhang> jaypro: the lame plugin iirc
[04:52] <jaypro> scguy318, mwansa whats dd? thats not the full name, is it?
[04:52] <Bil1> bazhang: nice ty, did you see the message i said to kitsofhawaii
[04:53] <scguy318> jaypro: that's the full name
[04:53] <scguy318> jaypro: dd is low-level file copy tool
[04:53] <scguy318> Jangari: check /etc/netatalk
[04:53] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: ok, sorry, did you get the info you needed though
[04:53] <scguy318> Jangari: should be some conf files in there
[04:53] <linuxftw> ok when i do ls; i seem ipodpatcher can anyone help me do chmod +x /.ipodpatcher on it??
[04:53] <bazhang> Bil1: hard to miss :}
[04:53] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: yah just wanted to know which ati driver you were using :)
[04:54] <Bil1> bazhang: lol sry, so any more suggestions
[04:54] <subpar_> anyone have ideas about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3839154 <--- having mouse problems
[04:54] <jaypro> bazhang> hrm.. idont see this plugin in synaptic
[04:54] <Jangari> atalkd.conf, afpd.conf and papd.conf
[04:54] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: did it help with what could be wrong..
[04:54] <lucienium>  I just upgraded my distribution from 7.04 to 7.10, after my system restarted "Restart" and "Shut Down" no longer appears when I access the "Quit" menu
[04:54]  * mike01 tries it again
[04:54] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: oh and how do i force quit, its drivin me nuts not have ctrl alt del
[04:54] <scguy318> Jangari: i dropped off, say anything?
[04:55] <Mashi> scguy318: Thanks a ton, flash works now
[04:55] <scguy318> Bil1: killall processname
[04:55] <thenetduck> what channel would I go to ask about a couple scripting commands?
[04:55] <lucienium> I restarted a couple of times by holding on to the power button but "Shut down" and "Restart" still won't appear on the "Quit" menu
[04:55] <kitofhawaii> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[04:55] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: go to that link
[04:55] <corruptionoflulz> Bil1: , i have a system monitor thing in my tray, i click that an a task manager type thingy pops up.
[04:55] <subpar_> Bil1, if you click on the panel, and click add to panel... there is an icon in there called force quit
[04:55] <scguy318> thenetduck: #bash perhaps
[04:55] <thenetduck> scguy318, thanks
[04:55] <subpar_> Bil1, which you can click then click on a window without having to go into a process menu
[04:56] <Bil1> sweet thanks for all the answers guys
[04:56] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: it covers everything you need to know about ati
[04:56] <bazhang> jaypro: how about apt-cache search lame in the terminal--does that turn it up?
[04:56] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: ok ill check it out, does it say compiz wont work though?
[04:56] <corruptionoflulz> Bil1: subpar_ said, usually you can just click close a few times then it'll bring up a force quit menu
[04:56] <jaypro> bazhang ive never done that before... how do you do it?
[04:56] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: it'll explain how to get it up and running, and gives you help if there's problems
[04:57] <Bil1> corruptionoflulz: thanks, i added the force quit shortcut
[04:57] <treitter> kelsin: have you used GnomeBaker?
[04:57] <bazhang> jaypro: open the terminal and type apt-cache search packagename (in this case lame)
[04:57] <subpar_> corruptionoflulz, you ain't nothing but an exploding van
[04:57] <corruptionoflulz> =(
[04:57] <subpar_> lul
[04:57] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: aight ill check it out, i know i got it running and properly but maybe itll tell me i need a lil more
[04:57] <Jangari> yeah scguy318, i was just on the phone i have three conf files:
[04:57] <Jangari> oops, hold on
[04:58] <jaypro> bazhang> all this information comes up
[04:58] <Jangari> afpd.conf  atalkd.conf  papd.conf
[04:58] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: hope so :) it's ati's "unofficial" "official" wiki
[04:58] <treitter> kelsin: it seems fine except that it won't let me burn directory structures greater than 6 dirs deep (even if I only select "Rock Ridge" as the filesystem; it still ends up passing "-iso-level 3", which doesn't support deep trees)
[04:58] <scguy318> Jangari: I think edit one of those for interface
[04:58] <shameless> can wine only support one .exe at a time, or can it run multiple threads?
[04:59] <scguy318> shameless: it can handle multiple processes and threads
[04:59] <Jangari> alright, but this is getting beyond me.
[04:59] <scguy318> Jangari: probably edit as root, then save and try to remove
[04:59] <bazhang> jaypro: at the bottom should be a listing for lame--do you see it?
[04:59] <shameless> hrmm, ok, mine wasn't starting the second one for some reason...
[04:59] <lucienium> guys, a little help please :'(
[04:59] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[04:59] <Jangari> sudo pico?
[04:59] <Jangari> will od?
[04:59] <Jangari> do*
[04:59] <jaypro> bazhang> yeah, it says "lame" and "lame-extras"
[04:59] <Jangari> and what sort of edit should I do?
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know of a way to sync contact information between desktop address books (Thunderbird, Evolution, etc.) and GMail?
[05:00] <bazhang> jaypro: install them then
[05:00] <scguy318> Jangari: theres a bug for this package I believe, packages that dont remove are annoying :P
[05:00] <scguy318> Jangari: theres a bug for this package I believe, packages that dont remove are annoying :P
[05:00] <mike01> Dr_willis: that fixed it, thanks
[05:00] <adamonline45> What's my superkey on a macbook?
[05:01] <bazhang> apple key?
[05:01] <Jangari> the papd is all # lines, that can't be the right conf
[05:01] <shameless> it's the windows key on pcs, so i would assume the apple
[05:01] <DG19075> the apple command key
[05:01] <jaypro> bazhang> what do i type? "sudo apt-get install lame" and "sudo apt-get install lame-extras"?
[05:01] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: That's what I'd think, but I don't see it...
[05:02] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: er, it doesn't work :O
[05:02] <jaypro> bazhang> ok nm
[05:02] <bazhang> jaypro: bingo, though you can install the two with a single command: sudo apt-get install lame lame-extras
[05:03] <bazhang> adamonline45: the alt key? not sure there
[05:03] <Jangari> grr, i'm giving up and going home, thanks for the help though, scguy318, as always
[05:03] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: is it called mod4?  That's what my command key's mapped to...
[05:04] <rainrunner87> Hey, has anyone noticed that the version of deluge in the repos doesn't come with the scheduler plugin?
[05:04] <jaypro> bazhang> ahhh sweet!  it works!  thanks a lot man!!
[05:04] <bazhang> jaypro: welcome to linux :}
[05:04] <utarpradesh> is there a program for ubuntu that allows me to access my iPod as a flash drive, rather than as a music device?
[05:05] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: I believe the iPod is treated as a flash drive by default, iirc
[05:05] <bazhang> adamonline45: I've got a mac, just never installed ubuntu on it   sorry.. :}
[05:05] <jaypro> bazhang> yeah ive been using linux for awhile now, theres just soo much to learn hehhe
[05:06] <DG19075> adamonline45 :No idea, as it's been awhilesince I've used a Mac
[05:06] <utarpradesh> rainrunner87, no, ubuntu doesn't mount it for whatever reason: i cannot access it by default
[05:06] <scguy318> Jangari: np cya
[05:06] <bazhang> jaypro: tell me about it :}
[05:06] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: alright, ty 8)
[05:06] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: That's not helpful.  Hmm....  Let's see what I remember about this...
[05:08] <Dankchild> hey guys everything was going fine until i went to ubuntu through supergrub, and now that i want to go back to windows, when i select it at grub it says error 21 no such disk
[05:09] <bazhang> adamonline45: no worries :}
[05:09] <Dankchild> hey guys everything was going fine until i went to ubuntu through supergrub, and now that i want to go back to windows, when i select it at grub it says error 21 no such disk
[05:09] <Dankchild> oops sent it twice
[05:09] <tritium> Dankchild: ubuntu doesn't use supergrub
[05:10] <Dankchild> it said it would just return my grub to the way it was, and it did. now i cant access windows
[05:10] <DG19075> Dankchild, just use the regular GRUB
[05:10] <Dankchild> how do i do that?
[05:10] <Dankchild> from what i know it is regular grub
[05:10] <tritium> Dankchild: we don't support supergrub.  Consult its documentation.
[05:10] <DG19075> !grub |Dankchild
[05:10] <ubotu> Dankchild: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:10] <scguy318> Dankchild: check your menu.lst
[05:11] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: Does it give you an error?
[05:12] <utarpradesh> rainrunner87: yes, let me copy/paste it
[05:14] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[05:14] <utarpradesh> "Cannot mount volume.... Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'doctor...'. "
[05:14] <rainrunner87> Can you try mounting it by hand?
[05:14] <utarpradesh> how do i do this?
[05:15] <x[tr0x]x> /server irc.mongolia.com
[05:15] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: Ok, hold on, I'm going to check for similar instances of your error.  If I don't find any hints from the web, I'll string some command-line commands together for you to enter.
[05:15] <utarpradesh> okay, thanks
[05:15] <Sekvent> hello
[05:15] <AgentHeX> anyone here know how to force usage of the nvidia restricted driver for Xen?  i can't boot to Xen with the amd64 one, and i can't live without compiz.
[05:15] <Sekvent> can anyone help me with um a wireless problem in ubuntu
[05:16] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: what kind of problem?
[05:16] <MauricioBR> I am doing a research on what best linux to run the games by the wine / cedega / crossover you know of any?
[05:17] <scguy318> MauricioBR: best Linux? like?
[05:17] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, well, I get um a connection in Network Manager, but it still doesn't connect to wireless
[05:17] <MauricioBR> yes
[05:17] <scguy318> MauricioBR: what do you mean best Linux?
[05:17] <AgentHeX> MauricioBR: are you looking for games to play or the distro to run?  wine should work on all of them, and it's pretty good (includes DX9)
[05:17] <nick_> is there a way to remedy the sound initialization problem when trying to use konversasion
[05:17] <Sekvent> AgentHex, I mean like I got a signal of certain % but that's all
[05:17] <nick_> is there a way to remedy the sound initialization problem when trying to use konversation in gnome
[05:17] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: you can't connect to the AP?
[05:18] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, um well, I don't even know =\
[05:18] <aaanone> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 7.10, and flash-plugin-nonfree is installed, yet Firefox is telling me that I need to install it
[05:18] <shameless> hrm, i need to run a battery evaluation, linux can't figure out the charge time/discharge time
[05:18] <aaanone> what is up?
[05:18] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: are you on the machine now?  i.e. are you chatting on that machine?
[05:18] <MauricioBR> AgentHeX 	
[05:18] <MauricioBR> You know that some of it will already pre-configured?
[05:19] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, well I am in WinXP now, no internet on ubuntu
[05:19] <shameless> why not?
[05:19] <CaptainMorgan> why does g++ require the installation cd to install? is there an alternative? I'm on the road and don't have the capacity to burn cds
[05:19] <orochi_> Hi :> This is kind of an off-topic question, but I'm sure people have dealt with it before...I do a lot of web development in PHP and I'm looking to branch out -- would it be wise to, say, move to a mod_python or mod_ruby combination, or are packages like rails and turbogears more likely to be hosted?
[05:19] <shameless> the wireless console not supported?
[05:19] <scguy318> CaptainMorgan: you don't
[05:19] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, I tried pinging google let's say, it says unknown host or something
[05:19] <scguy318> CaptainMorgan: System -> Admin -> Software Sources, uncheck the CD
[05:19] <riotkittie> CaptainMorgan: check your sources, comment out CD
[05:20] <AgentHeX> MauricioBR: well, i'm not aware of any distribution that has Windows emulation out of the box (so to speak), but Ubuntu has a very nice package management system (called Synaptic) that allows you to seamlessly install software (including Wine)
[05:20] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: have you looked at the output from ifconfig?
[05:20] <MauricioBR> [AgentHeX]: thanks
[05:20] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, yea, it seems like something is there under wlan0
[05:20] <CaptainMorgan> awesome, thanks scguy318 riotkittie
[05:20] <bazhang> MauricioBR: probably sabayon would be closest
[05:21] <aaanone> I'm so confused
[05:21] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: has it assigned an IP address?
[05:21] <smultron> how do you get a T1 line on an ethernet network? is there a converter router or switch or something?
[05:21] <aaanone> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree works but then I get an error about a 'version mismatch' ... anyone know what is the problem?
[05:22] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, um, I've really no idea, but can I like pm you on forums all the info I can gather on my connection and you'll check what is wrong? Like a quick glance of it kind of
[05:22] <AgentHeX> smultron: yes.  there is a box that translates from T1 signal to standard 10/100 ethernet.
[05:22] <AgentHeX> yes
[05:22] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: yes
[05:22] <Luke> is there a way I can access my vista computer via remote desktop from linux? what's a good Linux VNC client for that?
[05:22] <scguy318> Luke: vncviewer? :P
[05:22] <smultron> AgentHeX: does that usually come with the T1 line when they install it?
[05:22] <Luke> I'm on the same local network as the vista comp
[05:22] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, alrighty, thanks a lot, I ll try to do it asap
[05:23] <AgentHeX> smultron: probably, but i don't have first-hand experience with this.  i have, however, seen an unused box that translates from T1 to ethernet.
[05:23] <scguy318> Luke: Apps -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client does the trick too
[05:23] <Luke> scguy318: thanks
[05:23] <speeddemon8803> Beat me to the draw scguy318 heh.
[05:23] <smultron> AgentHeX: ah, alright. thanks for the info ;)
[05:23] <AgentHeX> smultron: np
[05:23] <see> hey guys, I'm having a hell of a time trying to get my monitor/nvida dirvers to work correctly
[05:23] <see> could somone help me?
[05:24] <AgentHeX> smultron: i would probably ask the vendor if you're planning on getting a T1
[05:24] <aaanone> did adobe recently update Flash?
[05:24] <aaanone> anyone else getting errors trying to install the flashplugin?
[05:24] <smultron> AgentHeX: yeah. sounds like a good idea. i'll do that tomorrow. thanks
[05:24] <scguy318> aaanone: lots of people have
[05:25] <AgentHeX> smultron: any time
[05:25] <aaanone> scguy318: do you mind telling me what I need to do to fix it?
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: sure
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: copy this to /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree as root, then do sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[05:25] <see> anyone able help with Nvida driver help?
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: Adobe did indeed update their Linux release
[05:26] <AgentHeX> aaanone: have you tried simply opening firefox and navigating to a page that requires flash?
[05:26] <Luke> scguy318: what do I have to do on the vista side? I've only ever used Linux
[05:26] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde) (and yes, I asked in #kubuntu but the room is dead)
[05:26] <scguy318> Luke: it has to run the VNC Server, about it
[05:26] <see> help?
[05:26] <Luke> scguy318: do you have a vnc server pref?
[05:26] <scguy318> Luke: the official VNC Server
[05:27] <scguy318> Luke: or Tight
[05:27] <aaanone> AgentHeX: no I haven't...if I install it that way does it download/install it using apt?
[05:27] <Luke> scguy318: vista comes w/ one?
[05:27] <scguy318> Luke: no
[05:27] <scguy318> Luke: the official VNC server by RealVNC
[05:27] <Luke> scguy318: ah thanks a lot for your help
[05:27] <Luke> I appreciate it
[05:27] <scguy318> aaanone: as of this moment flashplugin-nonfree is a bit broken due to Adobe's updating
[05:27] <scguy318> aaanone: my little workaround should get you up and running
[05:27] <AgentHeX> aaanone: i don't know, but i would assume so.  it worked for me.
[05:28] <scguy318> AgentHeX: Adobe recently updated their tarball, so flashplugin-nonfree is broken at moment
[05:28] <AgentHeX> scguy318: good thing i did this a few days ago, huh?
[05:28] <greylurk> Gr..  Wine and OpenGL don't seem to get along very well.
[05:28] <scguy318> AgentHeX: yep
[05:28] <greylurk> At least not on this laptop video.
[05:29] <see> anyone help??
[05:29] <speeddemon8803> what was your question see?
[05:29] <Luke> scguy318: when tightvnc has a "viewer" binary... does that mean the client is viewing the host or what?
[05:29] <romme> i've installed the Cambria font, but freetype renders no latin letters at 11pt and smaller
[05:29] <bazhang> see: with what?
[05:29] <see> I need help with my fx 5200 xconf
[05:29] <scguy318> Luke: its the binary that the client uses
[05:29] <see> I cant get out of 800x600
[05:29] <pg> What are the relative advantages of swap partitions and swap files?
[05:30] <AgentHeX> wait!  dammit!  i formatted after i had the plugin, and now it's gone!!!  ACK!!!
[05:30] <Luke> scguy318: I don't see any differentiation between client and server on tightvnc's site?
[05:30] <scguy318> pg: negligible difference
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: I have the tarball
[05:30] <scguy318> Luke: probably all in one package then
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[05:30] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[05:30] <Evanlec> anyone here get past photoshop cs2 activation on wine 0.9.4x ?
[05:30] <Luke> thansk mate
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: put that in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[05:30] <see> I've stumped a couple of people on the #ubuntuforum
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: then sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[05:31] <see> Now I'm looking for help here...
[05:31] <pg> scguy318: is one faster?
[05:31] <scguy318> pg: not really, they're pretty similar
[05:31] <speeddemon8803> everyone: im out, just wanted to see what all I could do tonight, my limited knowledge is way beyond all discussions tonight, so im going to bed. hehe.
[05:31] <scguy318> pg: go with what you want
[05:31] <scguy318> AgentHeX: do you believe I should file a new bug? there were some old bug entries back in July
[05:31] <aaanone> scguy318: a lot of people are just recommending downloading/installing the tarball from Adobe's site...is that a bad idea?
[05:32] <databits> hey whats up everyone could someone help me out with an installation problem I am having
[05:32] <scguy318> aaanone: well, its what flashplugin-nonfree does
[05:32] <databits> really appreciate the help
[05:32] <scguy318> aaanone: if you're fine with manual install, go ahead
[05:33] <scguy318> aaanone: otherwise you can give it the older tarball
[05:33] <speeddemon8803> databits: what seems to be your issue?
[05:33] <aaanone> scguy318: yeah I'm fine doing that, I'm just concerned that it is going to bypass apt and be a pain to update or whatever in the future
[05:33] <shameless> what's the command to add ports to the iptables?
[05:33] <databits> well I don't have any blank cds
[05:33] <databits> I am have two lappies
[05:33] <scguy318> aaanone: not really, shouldn't be that big a blocker
[05:34] <databits> one I am keeping xp on but the other is running xp on it right now but I want to throw ubuntu on it
[05:34] <databits> out of cds though I am trying to figure out how to install over the network
[05:34] <pg> scguy318: if I want to add more RAM later, can I resize the swap partition or add a new one?
[05:34] <see> So I take it no one is up to helping out with my NVID fx 5200 dirver problems??
[05:34] <shameless> databits: have you tried booting over the network?
[05:34] <scguy318> pg: yes
[05:34] <shameless> databits: i'm not sure exactly how to set it up, but you may be able to do something like that, or boot off of a flash drive
[05:35] <speeddemon8803> Shameless: You got this one? If so im going to bed.
[05:35] <databits> hahah I was trying ot figure that shit out earlier
[05:35] <Xzallion> seeitcoming: I just joined so I didn't see your problem, but i might be able to help.
[05:35] <databits> how abouts
[05:35] <shameless> speeddemon8803: yeah, i think i got it
[05:35] <speeddemon8803> Ok bud :)
[05:35] <databits> I went into my bios and told it to boot off network but I dont know about any other settings to make
[05:35] <databits> I do have a connector hooked up to my sata drive to make it an external usb drive
[05:35] <shameless> see: nvidia has open sourced drivers, you should be able to get them from the manuf.
[05:36] <see> been there...
[05:36] <bruenig> shameless, not open source
[05:36] <see> I'm stuck
[05:36] <databits> I would need to make some kind of boot floppy to install of that correct
[05:36] <shameless> they aren
[05:36] <see> I've had help on the #ubuntu channel and they were stumped
[05:36] <shameless> aren't? i thought they were
[05:36] <romme> sorry, i sorted my fonts problem
[05:36] <databits> actually I could probably figure things out if I can figure out how to make an ubuntu boot disk so I can just get the install started I can just run a ftp and install it that way
[05:37] <speeddemon8803> see: this is the #ubuntu channel hehe
[05:37] <AgentHeX> scguy318: thanks for the link
[05:37] <see> I ment the #ubuntuforums
[05:37] <databits> what would I have to do to make a ubuntu boot disk
[05:37] <shameless> databits: if you have a flash drive, you can use that, i think
[05:37] <rOMm> what do you think about using wine?
[05:37] <shameless> how did you install the first time?
[05:38] <databits> I don't have a flash drive
[05:38] <speeddemon8803> shameless: If you just unpack the iso to a flash drive that isnt enough..i know this for fact..ive tried it.
[05:38] <databits> I have a usb harddrive
[05:38] <rOMm> do you have a cd-rom?
[05:38] <databits> does anyone here know how to make a boot floopy ?
[05:38] <shameless> yeah, so have i, but if he can convince poweriso to see it as a cd, then you can 'burn' it to that
[05:38] <shameless> crap, i've gotta go study for my final that i have tomorrow, i'll see you
[05:39] <databits> what kind of final do you have tomorrow ?
[05:39] <speeddemon8803> later shameless, and i totally forgot about that.
[05:39] <dtork> is there a way to find the source type of my wireless card?
[05:39] <scguy318> dtork: chipset? lspci
[05:39] <pg> Why is swap space > 2 * RAM not recommended?  What if you run memory-hungry apps, like many Firefox windows at the same time?
[05:39] <scguy318> pg: because it's so wasteful
[05:39] <scguy318> pg: and if you need that much RAM for Firefox, install more RAM!
[05:39] <scguy318> pg: swap space is VERY slow
[05:40] <scguy318> pg: you only need swap space as big as RAM in order to hibernate or something
[05:40] <dtork> scguy318: thank you
[05:40] <ste-foy> scguy318: Thx a lot
[05:40] <scguy318> pg: 2*RAM was great in the days of DOS, when you could count on 8 MB max
[05:40] <pg> scguy318: Thanks.  Yet the advice is 2*ram for ram <= 2Gb, right?
[05:40] <mike01> how do i bridge my ethernet network with my wireless through nat, and setting up an ssid/ wpa2?
[05:40] <scguy318> pg: dont bother with 2*RAM at all
[05:40] <AgentHeX> now, anyone here know how to force usage of the nvidia restricted driver for Xen?  i can't boot to Xen with the amd64 one, and i can't live without compiz.
[05:41] <scguy318> pg:if you start using a large amount of swap, you're running slow
[05:41] <scguy318> pg: and thus need more RAM :)
[05:41] <pg> I see.
[05:41] <Dekkard> so how mucha ram do you have?
[05:41] <bulmer> mike01-> what is the reason for doing such?
[05:42] <mike01> share my internet connection with my laptop
[05:42] <mike01> needs to be nat though, only have 1 external ip
[05:42] <bulmer> mike01-> laptop and what?
[05:42] <mike01> and no router
[05:42] <mike01> connect laptop and desktop
[05:42] <ste-foy> OK Thx scguy318
[05:42] <mike01> desktop has a wireless card that is detected and works in linux
[05:43] <bulmer> mike01-> you have to respond with a prefix nick or else I may miss your responses
[05:43] <mike01> bulmer ok
[05:43] <mike01> bulmer: have you done this before?
[05:43] <qiyong> how to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[05:43] <bulmer> mike01-> is it your desktop that has internet connection?
[05:44] <mike01> yes
[05:44] <scguy318> qiyong: System -> Admin -> Update Manager
[05:44] <AgentHeX> anyone?  anyone?  help with Xen and nvidia restricted driver?
[05:44] <databits> does anyone here know anythin about network installs ? msg me plz
[05:44] <bulmer> mike01-> i have something similar but using bridging is not the best way to do things
[05:44] <mike01> i don't have a router and don't plan on buying one
[05:45] <mike01> and im fine setting static routes
[05:45] <bulmer> mike01-> you have to respond with a prefix nick or else I may miss your responses <-- i will ignore you if you dont
[05:45] <mike01> bulmer i don't have a router and don't plan on buying one
[05:45] <qiyong> scguy318: i'm in console
[05:45] <mike01> bulmer and ok fine setting static routes
[05:45] <bulmer> mike01-> your desktp, assuming it uses linux can be a router
[05:45] <mike01> yes
[05:46] <qiyong> scguy318: tell me the command, X is ok
[05:46] <mike01> thats what i was planning on
[05:46] <scguy318> qiyong: update-manager :)
[05:46] <scguy318> qiyong: then jam upgrade, then it does the work
[05:46] <mike01> bulmer: yes, thats what i was planning on
[05:46] <kev_b> anyone know a good text editor for ubuntu? I like the syntax highlighting of gedit but i hate the tabs, I want a side bar with the files in it or similar...
[05:47] <dtork> anyone know if I can get a driver for a Texas Instruments PCI1410 wireless card?
[05:47] <neil_d> I have a 6.10 installation, when installing 7.10 can I resize the existing ext3 partition ?  so I can dual boot.
[05:47] <bulmer> mike01-> so set it up as such..but dont use bridging..you dont gain much
[05:47] <qiyong> scguy318: can apt-get et al do the same job?
[05:47] <mike01> need to have a private IP on the laptop
[05:48] <mike01> outside shouldn't be able to see the laptop
[05:48] <krupa^> anyone knows how set automaticly updates in uubuntu in cron
[05:48] <mike01> bulmer need to have a private IP on the laptop, outside shouldn't be able to see the laptop
[05:48] <krupa^> sodu apt-get upgrade -y? or somthing?
[05:49] <scguy318> qiyong: it might, not sure
[05:49] <haji> hi whats the command that untars a tar.bz2?
[05:49] <bulmer> mike01-> okay...your desktop has two ethernet nics?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:49] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:49] <mike01> bulmer desktop has one ethernet, and one wireless
[05:50] <neil_d> haji, you could try the archive manager gui.
[05:50] <haji> neil_d, thanks but im looking for the command
[05:50] <bulmer> mike01-> do you know if your wifi card can do host to host as opposed to host-to-AP?
[05:50] <Dankchild> hey guys im trying to reinstall my grub, and i have the intructions right here, but none of them make sense, please someone walk me through it.
[05:51] <mike01> i think so, its built in on an asus p5k-e wifi/ap mobo
[05:51] <chetnick> hi guys does anyone know what is this process scrollkeeper-up, its eating up so much of my CPU ?
[05:51] <mike01> bulmer i think so, its built in on an asus p5k-e wifi/ap mobo
[05:51] <Dankchild> please someone help me with grub
[05:51] <glassface> hello all..
[05:51] <bulmer> mike01-> why dont you test that portion first before getting to the next step of routing and nat ?
[05:51] <mike01> bulmer its sold as having AP functionality
[05:51] <glassface> I'm getting sudoers parsing error.  How can I repair/regenerate it?
[05:52] <neil_d> haji, with tar use the -j option should do it.
[05:52] <bulmer> mike01-> ie adhoc to adhoc
[05:52] <mike01> in knetwork manager i can see another "ethernet" connection under wireless
[05:52] <al-_-Gir> someone know about program in ubuntu like IDA PRO on windows ?
[05:52] <mike01> not sure if its a router or what
[05:52] <greylurk> For an intel video card in a laptop, which x server should I be using?
[05:52] <Dankchild> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <mike01> bulmer how would i test that
[05:53] <SanDiegoGermany> #list
[05:53] <bulmer> mike01-> if you have the manual, i'd read it ..to put it in that mode
[05:54] <ghost> what does this mean
[05:54] <ghost> To disable a service in this runlevel, rename its script in this directory
[05:54] <ghost> so that the new name begins with a 'K' and a two-digit number, where the
[05:54] <ghost> number is the difference between the two-digit number following the 'S'
[05:54] <mike01> its onboard
[05:54] <ghost> in its current name, and 100.  To re-enable the service, rename the script
[05:54] <ghost> back to its original name beginning with 'S'.
[05:54] <mike01> bulmer: its onboard, there arn't any switches on it
[05:55] <mike01> bulmer whats the difference between wlan0 and wmaster0
[05:55] <ghost> Is that not vuage?
[05:55] <bulmer> mike01-> via commands
[05:55] <Dankchild> can anyone see what im typing?
[05:55] <ghost> yes
[05:55] <mike01> bulmer ifconfig
[05:55] <mike01> i have wlan0 and wmaster0
[05:55] <mike01> bulmer they have different hwaddresses
[05:55] <Dankchild> k, its just that noone responded
[05:55] <bulmer> mike01-> man iwlist
[05:55] <neil_d> I have a 6.10 installation, when installing 7.10 can I resize the existing ext3 partition ?  so I can dual boot.
[05:56] <mike01> bulmer only one that supports scanning is wlan0
[05:56] <Dankchild> will someone please help me with grub, im doing exactly what the instructions say and its not doing what it says it will
[05:56] <ech0dish> sudo apt-get remove *
[05:56] <bulmer> mike01-> i dont know what a wmaster0 is
[05:56] <ech0dish> sudo apt-get remove k*
[05:57] <mike01> bulmer nm
[05:57] <mike01> bulmer wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"" Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated Encryption key:off, etc...
[05:57] <MasterShrek> ech0dish, that will probably not work, but if it did, it would more than likeyl break the system
[05:57] <chetnick> hi guys does anyone know what is this process scrollkeeper-up, its eating up so much of my CPU ?
[05:57] <oldmanstan> can anyone suggest a solution to this problem?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495329
[05:58] <chetnick> and is there any CPU temperature monitor
[05:58] <mahaboob> i think there is one software
[05:58] <Newuser> Hello, requesting help on installing Grub
[05:58] <ech0dish> it works try it
[05:58] <glassface> hey! i had resolved my problem (sudoers)
[05:58] <mahaboob> how
[05:58] <Newuser> Configuring grub*
[05:58] <glassface> tnx for  no one paying attention
[05:59] <bulmer> mike01-> that basically tells you your wifi has not associated with the AP
[05:59] <danny> Hi, i have a zune (mp3 player) is there any ways to get songs onto it threw linux
[05:59] <Dankchild> newuser: ive been trying to get help with grub too
[05:59] <mike01> bulmer: ok so what is the first step to setting it up
[05:59] <Dankchild> !grub |newuser
[05:59] <ubotu> newuser: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:59] <zcat[1]> looking for little gadgets like a desktop clock and calendar.. gdesklets seemed a bit flakey last time I used it, is there anything else I can try?
[06:00] <bulmer> mike01->first , if you have the manual, i'd read it .
[06:00] <al-_-Gir> someone know about program in ubuntu like IDA PRO on windows ?
[06:00] <mike01> bulmer: manual for what?
[06:00] <qwerty121> Hi all! i had two panels on my desktop. I deleted one. How can create on now?
[06:00] <bulmer> mike01->first , if you have the manual for the wifi card, i'd read it .
[06:00] <Newuser> Dankchild: Thank you
[06:00] <zcat[1]> qwerty121: rightclick on other panel, 'new panel'
[06:01] <bulmer> mike01-> same thing with your laptop ..read the manual
[06:01] <mike01> bulmer: card doesn't have a manual, its built into the motherboard
[06:01] <Dankchild> newuser: no problem
[06:01] <glassface> I'm not able to see any menu items in xmms, what font package is missing and how can I install it?
[06:01] <bulmer> mike01-> visit the mobo web site and find info/manual?
[06:01] <qwerty121> thanks zcat[1]
[06:01] <danny> bye
[06:01] <mike01> bulmer: there is no manual for setting it up with linux
[06:02] <luddite> hey all, i have a resolvconf and dhcpd question.  my dsl modem is constantly "telling" my computer to rewrite the resolv.conf.
[06:02] <bulmer> mike01-> maybe you can figure out how its equivalent in windows?  you know, you have to improvise a bit
[06:02] <luddite> it's a dhcp setup, and was trying to figure out how to keep my special dns in resolv.conf with out being overwritten all the time
[06:02] <zcat[1]> luddite: log into your dsl modem and look for DHCP settings, set that to have the correct DNS and whatever else
[06:02] <mike01> i have it working in windows but only for a few minutes, then vista's internet connection sharing breaks it
[06:03] <Extravert> can anyone help me with grep?
[06:03] <bulmer> luddite-> in your dhcp client, there is a config not to update resolv.conf
[06:03] <luddite> i have the correct dns, the prob is that the modem pushes 192.168.0.1 instead of what i want
[06:04] <luddite> please tell me bulmer what option, is it in /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf?
[06:04] <michael_> Im using Ubuntu and Cedega-- Im attempting to DL World of Warcraft, anyone used this combo before?
[06:04] <zcat[1]> bulmer: best option is to actually have the DHCP server give out the correct info in the first place, then everything you connect will work right away without having to change settings each time
[06:04] <bulmer> luddite i dont know off hand, i have to check that
[06:04] <utarpradesh> michael_: it will work
[06:04] <utarpradesh> don't worry
[06:04] <bulmer> zcat[1]-> you cant, those wireless routers only doles out its own dns server address
[06:05] <michael_> utarpradesh: how do i get the updates to work? When i try and play, it stalls on the opening, with just a black screen
[06:05] <luddite> for example, the modem pushes out a non-internet accessible IP as the dns
[06:05] <luddite> 192.168.0.1
[06:05] <ortizn> topic
[06:05] <luddite> and it does this every 5min
[06:05] <zcat[1]> bulmer: 'by default' -- I've yet to find one that can't be reconfigured
[06:05] <utarpradesh> michael_ are you using a dual boot, XP/ubuntu?
[06:05] <michael_> just ubuntu
[06:05] <utarpradesh> is WoW installed on the windows partition?
[06:05] <utarpradesh> oh
[06:05] <michael_> utarpradesh: Only ubuntu
[06:06] <utarpradesh> i'm not sure, then
[06:06] <utarpradesh> i'm sorry friend
[06:06] <utarpradesh> :(
[06:06] <luddite> i do not have access to the modem either and my ISP will not give me static ip for anything less than 50 dollars more
[06:06] <zcat[1]> hmm.. well that sucks then.
[06:06] <luddite> it's really wierd, my ip doesn't change but the modem keeps pushing 192.168.0.1 like the world is going to end
[06:06] <bulmer> zcat[1]-> try like the 2wire dsl modem/router and see if you can set the dns you prefer
[06:07] <luddite> soo my custom dns servers are constantly being overwrittne
[06:07] <michael_> anyone else used cedega with World of Warcraft and Linux
[06:07] <luddite> yes michael_ i played wow 2 years ago on linux with cedega
[06:07] <luddite> it was fun, now i don't have time
[06:08] <luddite> so any advice for a dhcp newb on how to configure dhcp to stop re-writing the resolvconf
[06:08] <michael_> luddite: How do i get it to install the updates???
[06:08] <luddite> for cedega?
[06:08] <luddite> or for wow
[06:09] <michael_> luddite: wow, i try and run WoW but it sits on a black screen
[06:09] <luddite> well, i don't know what to tell you did you go to the freenode IRC for cedega?
[06:09] <michael_> luddite: went to transgaming
[06:10] <michael_> luddite: its running cedega fine i think
[06:10] <luddite> ok... I don't know what to tell you, i have trouble with basic networking, i wish I had time to game
[06:10] <KiD_ChAoS> im so proud, i made my own connect command text file for xchat and configured xchat to use it when connecting, and to top it off it all works
[06:10] <luddite> do you play any other games with cedega?
[06:10] <michael_> nope, just installed it
[06:10] <luddite> that's a good check..
[06:10] <michael_> not sure how to work it
[06:10] <bulmer> luddite->  try removing this  domain-name-servers from that /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  and see if it still acquires the dns server from your modem
[06:11] <luddite> aaah, michael_ you need to install an old school game that you know is supported
[06:11] <luddite> try counterstrike_cs
[06:12] <luddite> thanks bulmer, now to ssh across the planet at light speed and test your advice
[06:12] <michael_> i would, but i just bought a month of wow lol
[06:12] <michael_> it wont dl the update
[06:12] <michael_> gah
[06:12] <TeslaDave> Has anyone had any expierience with VMware Server 2 running on Gusty
[06:13] <humbolto> any xen people here?
[06:13] <luddite> yes
[06:13] <humbolto> cool
[06:13] <FrankLakatos> Can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize a wireless gaming card?
[06:14] <TeslaDave> luddite, yes? you have run vmware 2 beta?
[06:14] <luddite> i have the latest update for vmware server
[06:14] <luddite> sorry not the beta
[06:14] <luddite> that's crazy
[06:14] <luddite> :)
[06:14] <exsea> i got a problem with my installation can anyone pm me?
[06:14] <MasterShrek> virtualbox ftw
[06:14] <luddite> lol
[06:15] <humbolto> for the networking setup (eth0 bridging) do I have to do anything else than setting the (network-script network-bridge)(vif-script vif-bridge) parameters? will xenbr0 ... be created and linked by itself after restarting xend?
[06:15] <TeslaDave> luddite, is yours webbased, or actually a program
[06:15] <humbolto> I am on gutsy.
[06:16] <Stubee> I'm using dapper drake version. Sometimes the sounds works and somthimes it doesn't. can anyone help me please?
[06:16] <humbolto> luddite: all howtos say that's all I have to do, but I have not seen no xenbr0 show up yet.
[06:16] <TeslaDave> luddite do u know of a VMware IRC?
[06:17] <TeslaDave> nevermind found it, thnaks all
[06:17] <Stubee>  I'm using dapper drake version. Sometimes the sounds works and somthimes it doesn't. can anyone help me
[06:17] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[06:17] <Stubee>                 please?
[06:18] <zcat[1]> bullgard4: section 1x of the manual
[06:18] <shishio> MasterShrek: are you still there?>
[06:18] <zcat[1]> like zcat(1) means zcat is in section 1 of the manual -- section 1 is ordinary user commands
[06:18] <humbolto> anybody ever used xen here?
[06:18] <humbolto> with bridging?
[06:19] <MasterShrek> yes shishio whats up
[06:19] <zcat[1]> section 1x probably means ordinary user commands that require an x server (gui)
[06:19] <shishio> MasterShrek: my pc ghut down while i took a nap, but i still have 20 mins left
[06:19] <shishio> MasterShrek: shut down*
[06:19] <Berto> New Flash Player 32-bit is available.  Is there a doc on how to install it in 64-bit systems?
[06:20] <zcat[1]> looking for little gadgets like a desktop clock and calendar.. gdesklets seemed a bit flakey last time I used it, is there anything else I can try?
[06:20] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, whatup meng ;p
[06:20] <tomd> bullgard4, sections are important incase there is an entry of the same name in other sections.. try man 1 stat, man 2 stat
[06:20] <shishio> MasterShrek: my .iso file is in my home folder... how will i burn it in my CD?
[06:20] <bullgard4> zcat[1]: Tell me please what section '1x' of the manual is. I do not know such a section. What I do know is a section 1, often designated '(1)'.
[06:20] <Evanlec> Berto, what do u mean new flash player?
[06:20] <FrankLakatos> any help getting Ubuntu to recognized a wireless game router
[06:20] <MasterShrek> shishio, i gave u the command before, let me look it up again
[06:20] <Berto> Evanlec, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[06:20] <MasterShrek> whats up Evanlec how u been?
[06:20] <zcat[1]> bullgard4: probably like section1, but commands that need a GUI (X11 server)
[06:20] <Berto> Evanlec, Version 9 Update 3
[06:21] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, pretty good man, im running Arch now ;)
[06:21] <Berto> Evanlec, but my Edgy system auto-installed firefox64, nspluginwrapper, and flash 32-bit.  wondering how i can get this newer flash working
[06:21] <MasterShrek> how is it?
[06:21] <Evanlec> Berto, update 3 .. do u really need that?
[06:21] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> i have not come across that yet, is that any different than an AP with embedded router?
[06:21] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, i like it...tho i dont have too much else to compare it to except ubuntu
[06:21] <Berto> Evanlec, sure, if it fixes some of the hangs i get with npviewer.bin :)
[06:21] <FrankLakatos> im not sure what any of that means. I just installed Linux today
[06:22] <shishio> MasterShrek: hmm...let me see... "cdrecord -v speed=4 dev/cdrom ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso"?
[06:22] <luddite> bulmer, didn't fix it.. to verify.. how do i commit the changed i made to dhcp.conf?
[06:22] <JusticeZero> Hi, I need help putting my graphics driver back in. I'm on a quickstart CD because I put the wrong graphics driver in and restarted.
[06:22] <luddite> do a /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart?
[06:22] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> maybe you can explain what that wireless game router do?
[06:22] <Stubee> Can anyone help me with an audio issue
[06:22] <MasterShrek> shishio, yeap
[06:22] <bulmer> luddite-> what happened when you removed that suggested option?
[06:22] <Evanlec> Berto, someone suggested to me to just download the tarball of flash and install it manually in hopes that it will just overwrite the files curently used by nspluginwrapper
[06:22] <luddite> nothing really
[06:23] <FrankLakatos> ok, it gets wireless internet and outputs it to ethernet
[06:23] <shishio> MasterShrek: thanks
[06:23] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, u still running slamd64?
[06:23] <luddite> i did a dhclient eth0 and the resolv.conf got overwritten
[06:23] <MasterShrek> yea, and i couldnt be happier
[06:23] <shishio> MasterShrek: 94% done
[06:23] <Berto> Evanlec, do you know what the name of the packages are that edgy installs automatcally?  and where they put their files?
[06:23] <bullgard4> tomd: I know the role of sections designated '1', '8' etc. This is not new to me. But what does '1x' refer to?
[06:23] <shishio> MasterShrek: =)
[06:23] <MasterShrek> shishio, =D
[06:23] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> seems to be similar to an AP with router
[06:23] <luddite> sorry no fix, but yes there was a change
[06:23] <Evanlec> Berto, i believe its flashplugin-nonfree
[06:23] <FrankLakatos> cool- what should I try?
[06:23] <Berto> Evanlec, do you know what command (with apt-get or aptitude) lists the files involved with that package?
[06:23] <Evanlec> Berto, where they put their files, probably lots of places
[06:24] <lizili> i have installed linux-686 in kubuntu6.06 , should i remove linux-386 to keep off confilct ?
[06:24] <Evanlec> Berto, no i dont know that command
[06:24] <bulmer> bullgard4-> let me guess..1x as in 1x magnification, 2x as twice magnification..i cud be wrong....
[06:24] <andreuu> hello, im getting low FPS in Q3 and when I try and play movies it is all pink rainbow sort of thing ,
[06:24] <andreuu> does anyone have any ideas what could cause this/how to fix it?
[06:24] <tomd> what he said, 1x more than likely is for utils that use X11
[06:24] <Stubee> UG
[06:25] <akill> xchat is wierd
[06:25] <akill> where's the nickname list
[06:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, slack is definitely a good distro, but I think u might really like Arch, mostly because of its rolling release system, you're always up to date
[06:25] <akill> of everyone who's in the channel
[06:25] <zcat[1]> bullgard4: section 1x - like a little section off the end of section1 where someone decided to list a few more commands that sort of belong in section 1 but sort of are different.
[06:25] <JusticeZero> Hi, I have a paperweight because I messed up and put in the wrong graphics driver. How can I, from the CD boot, change the driver settings?
[06:25] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, how does it work? just auto updates all the time or what?
[06:25] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yea i look forward to running pacman -Syu  everytime i get home from work ;)
[06:26] <zcat[1]> rofl... wha that really akill??
[06:26] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, running that synchronizes the repos, any updates get installed, recently we got updates to things like Xorg-server and nautilus
[06:26] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, heh, i just recently set up a cron job to rsync slamd64-current, so now ill stay up to date too
[06:27] <MasterShrek> well, with a couple added commands here and there
[06:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, rather than the terribly un-exciting updates that ubuntu delivers ;p
[06:27] <MasterShrek> what package system does arch use?
[06:27] <EvanR_> isnt it their own system
[06:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, it uses Pacman
[06:27] <lizili> hello,everybody !I have installed linux-686 in kubuntu6.06 , should i remove linux-386 to keep off confilct ?
[06:27] <MasterShrek> well i know that, but are they debian packages or rpm's or what?
[06:27] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, along with ABS (arch build system) which is similar in concept to BSD's Ports system
[06:28] <EvanR_> so they arent deb or rpm
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, mm, they're neither
[06:28] <bullgard4> zcat[1],   tomd, bulmer: Thank you for commenting.
[06:28] <FrankLakatos> bulmer-> any clue what i should try?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> lizili, you shouldnt have to, just choose the 686 kernel from grub
[06:28] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, they come in .pkg.tar.gz format ;p
[06:29] <MasterShrek> ic
[06:29] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, but basically they are all built from ABS using Arch-made PKGBUILD files
[06:29] <marcioapf> i'm having problems with phpmyadmin. I have already installed it, but there is no /var/www/phpmyadmin
[06:29] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> can you elaborate on that device? how is it used? where is it supposed to be located?
[06:29] <JusticeZero> How do I change the graphics driver settings of Ubuntu 7.10 from a 7.04 boot disk?
[06:29] <Extravert> w00t!
[06:29] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, the PKGBUILD files are pretty small and just give compiler-flags, location of the source files to download, and any other options
[06:29] <FrankLakatos> it's plugged into my ethernet port
[06:29] <Extravert> yay!!
[06:29] <MasterShrek> marcioapf, try a: whereis phpmyadmin
[06:29] <user11_011> !mingw32
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mingw32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <bazhang> Extravert: please stop
[06:29] <Extravert> bazhang: ?
[06:30] <user11_011> what package should i install for  mingw32 C++ compiler
[06:30] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> you have to respond with my nick if response is directed to me, or i will ignore
[06:30] <januszeal> is is possable to give my ubuntu server machine some kind of image background for the console?
[06:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, and u just makepkg -i with the pkgbuild file and it downloads the source, compiles, and makes a working package for u to use with pacman
[06:30] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, ic, sounds kinda like slackbuilds, except they dont point to a download site
[06:30] <marcioapf> MasterShrek: i got "/etc/phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin"
[06:30] <Extravert> bazhang: I cant say yay? =(
[06:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, slackbuilds require source files to be local?
[06:30] <MasterShrek> yes
[06:30] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, yea i think its a similar concept
[06:31] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, tho honestly i havent even built anything myself yet ;p
[06:31] <MasterShrek> marcioapf, i would look in /etc/phpmyadmin/  for a conf file, and u should be able to figure out where its at, also look in that /usr/share/phpmyadmin dir, could be what you are looking for
[06:31] <FrankLakatos> bulmer-> sorry. It's a a little device that picks up wireless signal and then connects to an ethernet port. It's for devices that don't have built in wifi, but want to use a wireless signal. get it?
[06:31] <luddite> what if i block port 68 and 67... will that stop a dhcp push?
[06:31] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, tho with that new flash update, i might try it
[06:32] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, heh, so when you install soemthign, i has to compile it each time? or your pacman gets precompiled packages?
[06:32] <user11_011> what package should i install for  mingw32 C++ compiler
[06:32] <scguy318> Evanlec: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html if needed
[06:32] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, arch gets binary updates
[06:32] <subpar_> I have a problem with conflicting mice. a description can be found here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3839154 Any ideas?
[06:32] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, it is not like gentoo in that respect
[06:32] <MasterShrek> ok
[06:32] <scguy318> Evanlec: that's the tarball that the current flashplugin-nonfree likes
[06:32] <Evanlec> scguy318, thanks, altho im not running ubuntu atm
[06:32] <scguy318> Evanlec: sorry if that was a bit random
[06:32] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> this device is connected to an ethernet port thats is connected to the internet? its not clear from your explanation
[06:32] <scguy318> Evanlec: np
[06:33] <JusticeZero> How do I change my graphics driver in Ubuntu if I can only boot workably from a boot CD?
[06:33] <Evanlec> scguy318, did installing that manually work for you? what about the file on flash.com?
[06:33] <marcioapf> MasterShrek, what i really want is just to use phpmyadmin to create a table
[06:33] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,   change it from what to what? the drive used is defined in the xorg.conf file. You can edit that if you want.
[06:33] <Evanlec> isnt phpmyadmin a web administration interface?
[06:34] <andreuu> hello, im getting low FPS in Q3 and when I try and play movies it is all pink rainbow sort of thing ,
[06:34] <andreuu> does anyone have any ideas what could cause this/how to fix it?
[06:34] <MasterShrek> marcioapf, i know nothing about phpmyadmin, im just trying to help you find the directory you are looking for
[06:34] <scguy318> Evanlec: I placed the tarball in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree then did aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[06:34] <FrankLakatos> bulmer-> ok, ill break it down. So i have wireless internet in my house. Now my pc doesn't have a wireless card to get that signal. So this device has an anntenea that can find the wireless signal, and then it has an ethernet port, and i can plug it into my computer, making it able to use wireless internet.
[06:34] <JusticeZero> I set the wrong driver; now when I boot up I have a blank screen.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> andreuu,  you have installed the accelerated video card drivers for whatever card you have?
[06:34] <scguy318> Evanlec: I let the postinstall do its job :P
[06:34] <andreuu> yeah
[06:34] <Evanlec> scguy318, very clever, so u fooled it into using the latest source file
[06:34] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,  what driver did you set up?  If you can get to the console. you can reconfigure your X server. no live cd needed.
[06:34] <andreuu> was playing fine, movies too a minute ago, dont know what happened
[06:34] <scguy318> Evanlec: thats not latest actually
[06:35] <Evanlec> scguy318, well what is it then?
[06:35] <scguy318> Evanlec: its just old one that worked
[06:35] <Airwulf> hey to all
[06:35] <scguy318> Evanlec: just before Adobe's update
[06:35] <Evanlec> scguy318, why bother with an old one?
[06:35] <scguy318> Evanlec: too lazy to install it myself :P
[06:35] <exsea> my pc hangs when i start ubuntu on it, when i restart, the monitor refuses to function
[06:35] <JusticeZero> I don't see any way to get to it... the keyboard doesn't work unless i'm in Ubuntu completely, at which point I can't see anything.
[06:35] <andreuu> and konversation says Server fond, connecting, lost:no error so I had to use xchat which works...
[06:35] <Evanlec> scguy318, i mean, is that file u gave me newer than whats available in the ubuntu repo?
[06:35] <exsea> anywone experience it before?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> andreuu,  it could be the 'locate' database is updating - its set on a cron job to run once a day.  IF everything was fine.. then suddendly slowwed down.. could check the 'top' command and see whats running
[06:36] <scguy318> Evanlec: no, its not newer, its the only one that works at the moment ;)
[06:36] <andreuu> yeah ta did that. nothing
[06:36] <andreuu> wierd thing is movies wont play... hmm
[06:36] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,  keybord dont work in the grub menus?
[06:36] <scguy318> Evanlec: if you try to install flashplugin-nonfree right now, it'll crap out with md5 error
[06:36] <Airwulf> how can I achieve that nautilus show me mounted partitions of local fileystem in left pane?
[06:36] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> so instead of having an internal wifi card, you use this external card as the nic to connect wirelessly to your AP right?
[06:36] <Evanlec> scguy318, eh? on 64bit u mean rite?
[06:36] <JusticeZero> Correct.
[06:36] <scguy318> Evanlec: on any platform
[06:36] <Evanlec> scguy318, oh lol, well i havent booted into ubuntu in a while
[06:36] <scguy318> Evanlec: flashplugin-nonfree works great on 64-bit, or it used to, thanks to ndiswrapper
[06:36] <marcioapf> MasterShrek, oh ok. I found those two directories... but i think there should be one at /var/www/, because there is where i can use php files, from http://filehost/
[06:37] <marcioapf> Evanlec: yes
[06:37] <Evanlec> scguy318, yea i know. sad to hear its broken
[06:37] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->yes. what is an AP
[06:37] <scguy318> Evanlec: but with Adobe's update, its md5 checks fail, the installation fails
[06:37] <scguy318> Evanlec: should be a simple fix
[06:37] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,  let me guess a USB keyboard.. You may want to plug in a ps2 keyboard if ya got one. Ive heard that enabling 'legacy usb' support in the bios can get around the usb keybaord not working  issue.
[06:37] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> why do you play around with wireless and not knowing these terms?
[06:37] <Evanlec> marcioapf, u have apache installed?
[06:37] <MasterShrek> marcioapf, is there a confi file in /etc/phpmyadmin that specifies such a directory?
[06:37] <Ayabara> what package(s) do I need to install to get man-pages for ansic standard functions?
[06:37] <scguy318> FrankLakatos: AP = Access Point
[06:38] <Evanlec> scguy318, why would they put that into the repo?
[06:38] <scguy318> Evanlec: ?
[06:38] <Evanlec> scguy318, a broken install
[06:38] <JusticeZero> I don't have a ps2 keyboard, alas. Where would I find the legacy usb setting? I didn't see it..
[06:38] <Evanlec> scguy318, or u talking about the source
[06:38] <scguy318> Evanlec: it wasn't broken a few days ago
[06:38] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->ahh. I've had this thing for 4 years, all i ever had to do was plug it into my comp and it worked. But i literally installed Ubuntu today, and it's not showing up
[06:38] <Evanlec> scguy318, i mean, why would they put a broken package in the ubuntu repos
[06:38] <scguy318> Evanlec: or whenever it was before Adobe placed the updated tarball on its site
[06:39] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,  no idea on your bios. :) ive never had it work for  me that way either. I alwyas had to grab a ps2 for some of my machines..
[06:39] <marcioapf> MasterShrek, i don't think so
[06:39] <marcioapf> Evalec, yes i do
[06:39] <scguy318> Evanlec: they wouldn't, it broke very recently because the package simply wgets Adobe's tarball
[06:39] <scguy318> Evanlec: and with the tarball change, the md5 of it changed, a bit of a show-stopper
[06:39] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,  what video card did you set up the machijne as? what one do you hav4e?
[06:39] <Evanlec> scguy318, aha...i didnt know debs downloaded new sources
[06:39] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> how did this work before? you have in on a windows?
[06:39] <Darius08x> Hello, I recently just installed ubuntu 7.10 I believe on my slightly new computer. The installation seemed to go well, but when I booted it up and started to load ubuntu, then went to log in I got this error;  scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O dead device.      It would give me that error about 4 times every second. I rebooted, then tried to load ubuntu again and now I get GRUB loading stage1.5.    GRUB loading, lease wait... error17 I also
[06:39] <scguy318> Evanlec: the Flash tarball isn't really a source
[06:40] <Evanlec> scguy318, oh?
[06:40] <JusticeZero> Well, failing that, how do I get at xorg.conf from the boot CD? I have an nVidia 7600GS. I set it to nv because the restricted driver was giving me crashing problems.
[06:40] <scguy318> Evanlec: as part of the postinstall routine, it actually wgets the Flash binary install tarball from Adobe
[06:40] <Dr_willis> JusticeZero,  mount your installed drive - edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:40] <Evanlec> scguy318, but still, i thot a .deb file was independent, not needing to grab anything else from the net
[06:40] <scguy318> Evanlec: then does checks and then install
[06:40] <Evanlec> scguy318, oh so this is a special case
[06:40] <shishio> MasterShrek: i have a problem about the .iso file... No such file or directory. Cannot open 'dev/cdrom'.
[06:40] <scguy318> Evanlec: yep, like msttcorefonts
[06:41] <Evanlec> scguy318, i gotcha
[06:41] <scguy318> Evanlec: it has to, because the fonts and Flash aren't free for distribution
[06:41] <MasterShrek> shishio, try using sudo, your user may not have priviledges
[06:41] <Evanlec> scguy318, ah, that makes sense
[06:41] <Ayabara> Is there a better vcs-diff-viewer for gnome than meld?
[06:41] <shishio> MasterShrek: ok
[06:41] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->when it worked before, it was getting the signal from a linksys wireless router. Now, my internet provider sent me the wireless router
[06:41] <MasterShrek> shishio, make sure the iso is correctly referenced too,the filename may be a little bit different, and make sure you are in the folder where it is located
[06:41] <m55> whats the best daemon-type bittorrent client?
[06:41] <Evanlec> scguy318, u tried any other distros besides ubuntu?
[06:42] <marcioapf> Evanlec, both /etc/phpmyadmin and /usr/share/phpmyadmin have many .php files, what doesn't make sense since i can only read them if they are parsed by my server. And this only happens to files into /var/www, which i acess through http://localhost
[06:42] <scguy318> Evanlec: not really, I must admit
[06:42] <dadehoog> Darius08x: Any idea what the scsi 2:0:0:0 device is ? Any external HDDs plugged in via USB, or CD/DVD drives etc ?
[06:42] <JusticeZero> I know how to edit the file once I find it, but mounting and finding it i'm hazy on.
[06:42] <jariep1_> hi all
[06:42] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> before? as in before today? and before you were using microsoft? now if you use microsoft, does it work with the new AP ?
[06:42] <shishio> MasterShrek: How will i do that? my .iso file is inmy home folder
[06:42] <jariep1_> how are you
[06:42] <jariep1_> i just installed ubuntu
[06:42] <Darius08x> Uhhh, I have an external HD plugged in.
[06:43] <jariep1_> is beautiful
[06:43] <Evanlec> marcioapf, well, /etc/phpmyadmin should NOT be where ur server is serving php files
[06:43] <dadehoog> Darius08x: Do you need it plugged in ?
[06:43] <dn> anyone find their sound is broken in the past 24 hours after updating packages?
[06:43] <Evanlec> scguy318, well, i just switched the Arch linux and i'm liking it
[06:43] <MasterShrek> shishio, sudo cdrecord -v speed=4 /dev/cdrom ubuntu<hit tab>
[06:43] <user11_011> REPOST: what package should i install for  mingw32 C++ compiler
[06:43] <Darius08x> I suppose not. I'll unplug it right now.
[06:43] <dadehoog> I'd unplug it, then try and boot Ubuntu again
[06:43] <Evanlec> scguy318, u seem like ur a more advanced linux user, u might enjoy a more "advanced" level distro
[06:43] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->before as in, i've used it for 3 years on Windows XP at my old apartment. Now i moved, got a new ISP, and installed Ubuntu.
[06:43] <utarpradesh> what program do i use in ubuntu to mount/access my ipod as a flash drive, rather than as a music device?
[06:44] <marcioapf> Evanlec, the same about /usr/share/phpmyadmin?
[06:44] <Evanlec> marcioapf, im geussing those are example files...
[06:44] <Darius08x> I still get the GRUB error though.
[06:44] <Evanlec> marcioapf, like /usr/share/doc
[06:44] <shishio> MasterShrek, it works^^
[06:44] <marcioapf> Evanlec, hmm... ok. But how am i supposed to use phpmyadmin?
[06:44] <MasterShrek> good news
[06:44] <KiD_ChAoS> does anyone have a suggestion for an irc bot that is easily configurable, like one that would monitor and channel for floods and foul language?
[06:44] <dadehoog> dn: no worries here ... and I've just installed the latest patches ...
[06:45] <x_zeuss> one quick question: what would be best suited for office use? gnome or kde?
[06:45] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> if you have windows, does it work with this new ISP router? or you think because you have ubuntu now suddenly things dont work?
[06:45] <Evanlec> marcioapf, well to be honest, i dont know anything about phpmyadmin either...
[06:45] <x_zeuss> in terms of stability
[06:45] <dn> you don't happen to know what packages have been updated recently? i seen firefox and openoffice, but neither of those should affect my sound :/
[06:45] <dadehoog> x_zeuss: I'd say GNOME - but it's a while since I used KDE
[06:45] <scguy318> x_zeuss: whatever you want, they both have their advantages
[06:45] <Invert314> test1
[06:45] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, so how is your dependency management going? ;p
[06:46] <jariep1_> is there a screensaver on the default ubuntu
[06:46] <andreuu> what dir is x11 in ? thats how I restart xserver yes ?
[06:46] <MrStonedOne> user11_011: mingw32
[06:46] <dadehoog> x_zeuss: scguy318 is correct. For what it's worth, GNOME seems a lot "cleaner" and therefore easier to roll-out in a business / training context
[06:46] <shishio> MasterShrek, error:"Track 01:    0 MB written.cdrecord: Input/output error. read error on input fileWriting  time:    4.652s
[06:46] <shishio> cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 1 gets.
[06:46] <shishio> cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.
[06:46] <shishio> "
[06:46] <marcioapf> Evanlec, =P ok. Anyway, many pages on the internet say that i should go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[06:46] <MrStonedOne> user11_011: apt-get install mingw32
[06:46] <JusticeZero> janep1 no, but you can set one.
[06:46] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, i dont really have any issues, granted a few things i need to compile a dependency for, most things work just fine
[06:46] <jariep1_> JusticeZero ok thank you
[06:46] <Evanlec> marcioapf, well that makes sense, and that dir doesnt exist?
[06:46] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->im thinking Ubuntu is working perfectly, i just need to get it to look for this wireless device. The ISP is working fine on mine, and my two roomates mac (im on my mac on the same ISP now)
[06:46] <user11_011> MrStonedOne: i did that but i dont get minw32 as a command at all!!!!
[06:46] <dadehoog> Darius08x: So you've got a GRUB error, that is different to the original error ?
[06:47] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, hehe, yea im just giving u crap ;p
[06:47] <marcioapf> Evalec no, it doesn't exist =(
[06:47] <shishio> MasterShrek: it doesnt burn at my cd
[06:47] <shishio> MasterShrek: =(
[06:47] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, are u using RPM's for package installs or no?
[06:47] <Darius08x> My orginal error was the scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O dead device thing, then I rebooted and got both the GRUB error17 and 18.
[06:47] <MrStonedOne> user11_011: i'll take a look at what files it installed once its doing installing, one sec
[06:47] <Evanlec> marcioapf, how did u install apache and phpmyadmin?
[06:47] <andreuu> how do I restart xserver?
[06:47] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> once you plugged it in your ethernet port of your desktop, what do you see if you type ifconfig, do this before you plug in and after to see the difference
[06:47] <x_zeuss> i heard that the kde version of ubuntu (kubuntu) is very buggy, example, last night i booted kubuntu and it wouldn't mount my hdds (errors), but ubuntu was able to do this very well
[06:48] <dadehoog> OK ... did you configure anything/update any packages between the SCSI error and the reboot ?
[06:48] <marcioapf> Evanlec, all of them by sudo apt-get
[06:48] <Evanlec> marcioapf, from the official repos?
[06:48] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, now, slackware packages (.tgz) or source compiling
[06:48] <Darius08x> Nope.
[06:48] <MasterShrek> shishio, do you have gnomebaker installed?
[06:48] <marcioapf> Evanlec, dunno?
[06:48] <jack|ass> What's the new "standard" for VPN's?  OpenVPN?
[06:48] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, does slack use rpm?
[06:48] <shishio> MasterShrek: i dont know if i have that
[06:49] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, no, it uses slackware packages which are .tgz
[06:49] <marcioapf> Evanlec, i think yes. i just typed things like sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[06:49] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, oh k
[06:49] <marcioapf> sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:49] <MasterShrek> shishio, can you install it?
[06:49] <shishio> MasterShrek: how>
[06:49] <shishio> ?
[06:49] <Luke> I'm setting up a box vista box as a security camera server... how can I access that via ubuntu? anyone know any good solutions to this?
[06:49] <MasterShrek> shishio, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[06:49] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, he should be able to burn that iso using nautilus by default...
[06:50] <MasterShrek> Evanlec, well it is breezy, ubuntu 5.10
[06:50] <jack|ass> Luke: rdesktop?
[06:50] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->unpluged "TX Packets:304"  , pluggedin "TX Packets:321"
[06:50] <shishio> Evanlec: using nautilus? how?
[06:51] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> what is that? what is before and what is after?
[06:51] <shishio> Evanlec: XD
[06:51] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->unplugged "txqueuelen:0" , plugged "txqueuelen:1000"
[06:51] <dadehoog> Darius08x: Where did you install Ubuntu ? Can you give me an idea of your partition layout ?
[06:51] <Evanlec> shishio, right click on your ISO file and hit Open with Cd/dvd creator
[06:51] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->3rd line of eth0
[06:51] <MrStonedOne> user11_011 are you on a server install, or a desktop install
[06:51] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, Oh, i wonder what version of Gnome that is ;p
[06:51] <Luke> jack|ass: looking into it
[06:52] <marcioapf> Evanlec, somebody had the same problem than me, at this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114129&page=2 (the last comment). He solved it, and according to him the problem was that source.list was not correct, what i cannot understand.
[06:52] <user11_011> MrStonedOne: desktop
[06:52] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->sorry, i meant 4th line
[06:52] <jack|ass> Luke: your other option would be VNC, but I'd recommend rdesktop over that if it's windows XP or vista.
[06:52] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> what is that? what is before and what is after? you response is not comprehensible to me, can you pastebin your ifconfig before you plugin this device and also after?
[06:52] <MasterShrek> ={
[06:52] <MasterShrek> =P
[06:52] <FrankLakatos> it's on a different computer
[06:52] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->it's on a different computer
[06:52] <Darius08x> Nope, not really. :/ I'm very new to linux, and wanted to give it a shot. Since windows has been nothing but trouble for me. I basically kept hitting next until the thing started to install.
[06:52] <Evanlec> marcioapf, which post is your problem please
[06:52] <Luke> jack|ass: yea i tried VNC and it's not what I was looking for
[06:52] <shishio> Evanlec: it doesnt have dc/dvd creator, just audio cd creato =(
[06:52] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> well you have to do something so i can make a good comparison,
[06:53] <Evanlec> shishio, maybe its time to upgrade? ;p
[06:53] <andreuu> its /etc/x11/x to restart x server ?
[06:53] <marcioapf> evanlec, the last post
[06:53] <dadehoog> Darius08x: Ok ... and was there anything else on the Disk ?
[06:53] <MrStonedOne> open up synaptic package manager, find the package with search and hit properties, look at the installed files part, its the files under /usr/bin
[06:53] <shishio> Evanlec: done that, my system crashes:P
[06:53] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> you are making me guess too much, and i always guess wrong, do this from same ubuntu that you said dont work
[06:53] <Evanlec> marcioapf, on page 2 or 3?
[06:53] <jack|ass> Luke: rdesktop either spawns a virtual session or connects to the desktop (Depending on how windows is set up).  It can do whatever resolution you want.
[06:53] <Evanlec> marcioapf, oh k
[06:53] <Darius08x> Yes. Windows XP.
[06:53] <Netham45> why is dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/desktop/laptop/backup.dd failing every time at random locations?
[06:53] <shishio> MasterShrek: will i continue? "Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No]?
[06:53] <shishio> "
[06:53] <Netham45> of is a smb mounted windows drive
[06:53] <dadehoog> Darius08x: It's odd that you're getting _both_ GRUB error 17 and 18 ...
[06:54] <dadehoog> Darius08x: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[06:54] <Darius08x> Guess my computer just hates me.
[06:54] <MasterShrek> shishio, no dont remove it
[06:54] <Luke> jack|ass: basically someone else may be using the vista computer... I want to connect in the background
[06:54] <Darius08x> Now this is odd....
[06:54] <Evanlec> shishio, i would say....NO
[06:54] <Luke> jack|ass: rdesktop woudl do that?
[06:54] <Darius08x> I just put my cd back in
[06:54] <Daverocks> Netham45: try setting a bs in dd
[06:54] <Netham45> Daverocks, what would be a good BS?
[06:54] <jack|ass> Luke: hmm... I don't think so.  See, in XP, it locks the machine and kicks the current user out.
[06:54] <Netham45> and what is the paramater to set ie?
[06:54] <Darius08x> and went to install things over, went through setting up my clock, etc
[06:54] <jack|ass> Luke: you're connecting to the same session though.
[06:54] <Darius08x> then I get to prepare partitions
[06:54] <Darius08x> but apparently I don't have one
[06:54] <shishio> MasterShrek: whats next?
[06:54] <jack|ass> Luke: basically microsoft wants you to use the server versions if you are having multiple people connected at a time.
[06:54] <Luke> jack|ass: hrm... you know what I mean tho right?
[06:54] <Daverocks> Netham45: well depends on the size of the partition, maybe 8192 or 16384
[06:54] <Darius08x> lol, it's blank, there is nothing there.
[06:55] <dadehoog> Darius08x: That is peculiar to say the least.
[06:55] <Daverocks> Netham45: bs=whatever ... look at the man page
[06:55] <shishio> MasterShrek: gnomebaker is now installed
[06:55] <Luke> jack|ass: well then what about connecting to the same session w/ vnc but not disturbing the user on the computer?
[06:55] <marcioapf> Evanlec, any idea of what "source.list not correct" means?
[06:55] <Evanlec> marcioapf, do you have the php5 module loaded?
[06:55] <jack|ass> Luke: yeah, totally.  I'd imagine there's a registry hack out there for XP / Vista home to let you do that.  Although you might check to see if vista premium lets you do that.
[06:55] <MasterShrek> shishio, open gnomebaker, either from the menu or hit alt+f2 and type gnomebaker
[06:55] <jack|ass> Luke: you can do view-only vnc connections, but...
[06:55] <dadehoog> Darius08x: A GRUB error 17 would be consistent with not everything being installed where GRUB thinks it is ... I'd have another crack at the installation ...
[06:55] <JusticeZero> Darius08x I would suspect that you might have a bad burn of the CD? Just a guess. Did you verify the image?
[06:56] <shishio> MasterShrek: Cannot display location 'file://gnomebaker'
[06:56] <shishio> Details: There is no default action associated with this location.
[06:56] <dadehoog> Darius08x: Be careful though, because your Windows XP installation may have been removed by the failed installation
[06:56] <Luke> jack|ass: basically the computer is doing double doubty. First it's the wifes work computer and second it's the baby monitor
[06:56] <Daverocks> Darius08x: i has a grub error 17 on a friend's computer earlier, what was wrong is that the hard drive itself had mostly failed
[06:56] <Darius08x> ...no? I just downloaded it off of ubuntu.com only a few minutes ago. Burned it at about half speed
[06:56] <Daverocks> *had
[06:56] <Darius08x> and then popped it in.
[06:56] <marcioapf> Evanlec, don't understand. I have php5 installed (my http://localhost works ok and parses .php files)
[06:56] <Evanlec> marcioapf, the sources.list is the file that specifies what Repos you're getting software from
[06:57] <Darius08x> So my Harddrive could be faulty Dave?
[06:57] <Evanlec> marcioapf, so he's saying is he needed to enable a certain repo to install phpmyadmin
[06:57] <MasterShrek> shishio, i think that will be ok, the program is still open right?
[06:57] <Daverocks> Darius08x: well unfortunately grub error codes are really ambiguous, it can mean a lot of different things
[06:57] <Evanlec> marcioapf, but first run sudo apt-get update and then sudo-apt-get install phpmyadmin   overwrite if asked
[06:57] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->  this is the unplugged   "Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:20:ED:83:CF:45.    UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTYL1500 Metric:1    RX Packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0    TX packets:304 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0   collisions:0 txpueuelen:1000     RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)     TX bytes:30242 (29.5KB)    Interrupt:18 Base address:0x4000"
[06:57] <shishio> MasterShrek: no its notT_T
[06:57] <JusticeZero> OK, because i've accidentally corrupted downloads before, with download managers and such.
[06:57] <MasterShrek> ugh
[06:58] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[06:58] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, the file:// format is gnome-vfs stuff i believe
[06:58] <Darius08x> hmm
[06:58] <dadehoog> Darius08x: It's a possibility ... if the absence of partitions continues after another attempted install, then it's looking likely ... but try the install process again ... it may not have quite gone to plan last time
[06:58] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> please pastebin the before and the after  ifconfi results
[06:58] <shishio> MasterShrek: when i insert my blank CD it prompts me if i burn data or burn audio cd... should i try this?
[06:58] <Evanlec> MasterShrek, o wait nvm
[06:58] <Luke> jack|ass: do you know of anything that could do that.?
[06:58] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> ifconfig*
[06:58] <EvaLuaTe> how could i see if it is active/deactivate this: ipw3945
[06:58] <MasterShrek> shishio, no, neither one will burn the iso to the disc
[06:59] <marcioapf> Evanlec, i did it. I didn't ask me to overwrite.
[06:59] <Daverocks> Darius08x: check if this works for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[06:59] <jack|ass> Luke: well vista CAN do that.  It's just a matter of convincing it that multiple sessions are allow.  I've never tried that since I haven't touched vista much. :)
[06:59] <marcioapf> Evanlec **it didn't ask me to overwrite
[06:59] <bazhang> EvaLuaTe: under gutsy?
[06:59] <FrankLakatos> bulmer-> what is paste bin?
[06:59] <Luke> jack|ass: since i really only use linux... i need someone to hand-hold me through the process =/
[06:59] <EvaLuaTe> bazhang: dapper
[06:59] <bulmer> !pastebin| FrankLakatos
[06:59] <ubotu> FrankLakatos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:59] <jack|ass> Luke: http://www.golod.com/2005/10/enabling-multiple-remote-desktop-sessions-in-windows-xp-professional-and-media-center-edition-2005/
[06:59] <Darius08x> Wouldn't surprise me if my hard drive is messed up. I've gotten blue screen errors on windows. All sorts of system 32 files randomly disappearing
[06:59] <Evanlec> marcioapf, do a sudo apt-get --purge phpmyadmin
[07:00] <MasterShrek> shishio, are all your files upgraded? sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[07:00] <jack|ass> Luke: or, more appropriately: http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/156341.aspx
[07:00] <bazhang> EvaLuaTe: any reason not to get gutsy? not sure if dapper supports that out of the box, but feisty and gutsy do
[07:00] <shishio> MasterShrek: upgraded to what? dapper? no its not
[07:00] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->unplugged http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46921/
[07:00] <MasterShrek> shishio, upgraded as far as it can be in breezy?
[07:01] <Luke> jack|ass: looks good man
[07:01] <Luke> jack|ass: thanks
[07:01] <Dralid> ZSNES does not play well with the screensaver. If the screensaver activates while the SNES is playing (which is easy to do as the controller stick does not reset the screensaver's idle count) then the keyboard & mouse both become locked out (cannot even do ctrl + alt + backspace)
[07:01] <EvaLuaTe> bazhang: is there any way to upgrade ubuntu without losing the current configuration ?
[07:01] <shishio> MasterShrek: hmm... u want me to upgrade my breezy?
[07:01] <Dralid> What can I do?
[07:01] <MasterShrek> shishio, yes
[07:01] <marcioapf> Evanlec it says invalid command. Then i tried both "sudo apt-get install --purge phpmyadmin" and " apt-get --purge install phpmyadmin". But i got the some old thing: "phpmyadmin is already the newest version."
[07:01] <MasterShrek> shishio, sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:02] <shishio> MasterShrek: it takes another 4 hours to do that
[07:02] <bulmer>  FrankLakatos  and once plugged?
[07:02] <MasterShrek> shishio, jsut to make sure something isnt missing causing that gnomebaker error
[07:02] <MasterShrek> oh i spose..
[07:02] <MasterShrek> umm shishio lemme look around for a fix
[07:02] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->plugged http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46922/
[07:02] <shishio> MasterShrek: can i burn .iso on windos?
[07:02] <Evanlec> marcioapf, apt-get remove --purge phpmyadmin
[07:02] <shishio> MasterShrek: can i burn .iso on windows?
[07:02] <MasterShrek> shishio, with some software, yes
[07:03] <shishio> MasterShrek: i can go to my other pc and burn .iso i have nero there
[07:03] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> before when it was workin, how do you configure this device to select which AP/router it should associate with?
[07:03] <Dralid> Is there anyway to disable the screensaver while a program is running?
[07:03] <Evanlec> Dralid, killall gnome-screensaver
[07:03] <bqmassey> anyone know any IRC channels where music library / encoding discussions might be appropriate?
[07:03] <luddite> any dhcp gurus here?
[07:04] <MasterShrek> shishio, yea that should work
[07:04] <luddite> i'd like to add a dns server to the /etc/dhcpd3/dhcp.conf file
[07:04] <bazhang> EvaLuaTe: I'm guessing with that card that you have a pretty decent computer--you can upgrade via the internet first to feisty (and if you wish) then to gutsy
[07:04] <marcioapf> Evanlec, i did it. I also used apt-get update. Should i retry now apt-get install phpmyadmin?
[07:04] <MasterShrek> shishio, i dont exaclty remember how to burn an iso in nero, but it shouldnt be very difficult
[07:04] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->there is a digital display and i can select p1,p2,p3,1-10, or ln
[07:04] <luddite> i tried adding option domain-name-servers x.x.x.x
[07:04] <speeddemon8803> you can try #ubuntu-offtopic maybe bqmassey
[07:04] <shishio> MasterShrek: ok ill do that
[07:04] <luddite> and when i do a dhclient ethx
[07:05] <luddite> i get the following error
[07:05] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> man i already told you have to eloborate, i cant be guessing ..i dont know what these p1 p2 are..
[07:05] <bqmassey> thanks speeddemon8803
[07:05] <luddite> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf line 47: expecting "code" keyword.
[07:05] <luddite> option domain-name-servers 172.
[07:05] <bazhang> bqmassey: want a list of irc channels?
[07:05] <EvaLuaTe> bazhang, but if i upgrade will my configuration remain ?
[07:05] <gu54n0> ,aci
[07:05] <speeddemon8803> sure thing bqmassey :)
[07:05] <luddite> googled and no luck
[07:05] <Evanlec> marcioapf, yea, try that, brb
[07:05]  * MasterShrek needs sleep...
[07:05] <bqmassey> bazhang.. already looked, thanks
[07:05] <bazhang> EvaLuaTe: how long have you had this installation?
[07:06] <EvaLuaTe> bazhang: a couple of months
[07:06] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->i'm not really sure, i think it means "port1", "port2", etc... I was normally able to leave it on p2 or p3 and it worked, http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416828017&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper this is the device
[07:06] <speeddemon8803> you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic by typing /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:06] <MasterShrek> shishio, are you going to be ok installing that when u are done burning it? i really need some sleep. also as far as your ntfs issue, you should have full read/write access to it after you install 7.10
[07:07] <marcioapf> Evanlec, i did it. What is 'brb'?
[07:07] <bazhang> EvaLuaTe: just trying to understand if your computer is decent enough to handle another upgrade (ie feisty or gutsy)--reasonably good?
[07:07] <MasterShrek> brb = be right back
[07:07] <speeddemon8803> brb is short for...be right back
[07:07] <marcioapf> ahhhh. oh ok =D
[07:07] <EvaLuaTe> bazhang: btw, i don't have that card, but i got a bug (BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!) and i found on a forum that disabling that driver would solve the problem.
[07:07] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> you have to do some legwork,  ..anyhow per your posting, your ethernet once plugged in, did not have an ip address assigned, so it seems the device has not associated with your AP
[07:08] <marcioapf> thanks you both
[07:08] <EvaLuaTe> bazhang: i got a P4 1700Mhz with 512 MB of ram
[07:08] <speeddemon8803> Your quite welcome.
[07:08] <marcioapf> =)
[07:08] <bazhang> EvaLuaTe: then dapper might be best for now
[07:09] <FrankLakatos> bulmer-> would this have anything to do with the fact that the wireless router the ISP gave me has a password on it?
[07:09] <Darius08x> whoever linked me to the article to help on the grub error... it didn't help
[07:09] <zetheroo> anyone know how to install the Seperate+ plugin for the GIMP?
[07:10] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> it can be anything, you are now using a different AP from the old apartment, so off course things have changed..so you have to reconfigure things
[07:10] <zetheroo> I downloaded is and extracted it
[07:10] <hadiaziam> i got problem with my connection..need to add dns ip in resolv.conf. If not..i cannot surf..how to fix it?Each time boot..need to add dns ip..
[07:10] <zetheroo> but now what do I do ?
[07:10] <hadiaziam> it make me sick
[07:11] <dxdt> Is there a way with working compiz to make everything scale perfectly?  Like if you have 3 windows open, something that will instantly resize them to correct sizes such that they are all completely visible at once on a desktop?
[07:11] <ankur> is there any graphical password generator for ubuntu?
[07:11] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->but normally i would be able to plug this thing in, and the OS would show it's got a wireless signal, and then i would have to put in the password if nessecary. So Ubuntu can't even see the wireless signal?
[07:11] <zetheroo> anyone?\
[07:12] <ankur> is there any graphical password generator for ubuntu?
[07:12] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> you have to configure that device, period...it has a different network id and such, so you  read the manual please and toy with those p1 p2 p3 stuff you mentioned
[07:12] <FrankLakatos> bulmer->alright, ill see what i can do, thanks
[07:13] <bulmer> ankur-> what is a graphical password generator?
[07:13] <Darius08x> Ok, so I still get grub error 17, and also when I try and reinstall it doesn't locate any paration. Is there anything else I can do?
[07:15] <Sisco> what can ubuntu do that xp cant?
[07:15] <LinkSYS[sleep]> beryl?
[07:15] <speeddemon8803> !ubuntu
[07:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <matthew__> not interested in fighting :)
[07:15] <Sisco> I have XP and ubuntu
[07:16] <holdurfire> help me ! i want to test for my ssh service
[07:16] <bazhang> Darius08x: the grub error 17 means that the filesystem is not recognized correctly
[07:16] <Sisco> want to see what ubuntu can do
[07:16] <Sisco> that xp cant
[07:16] <LinkSYS[sleep]> !general
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about general - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <MasterShrek> holdurfire, give me an ip
[07:16] <speeddemon8803> please go to the website specified.
[07:16] <Sisco> or what it can do better
[07:16] <bulmer> Sisco-> does your xp comes with compilers in C for free?
[07:16] <Sisco> no i have minwg (gcc port) though
[07:17] <Darius08x> But what about it not being able to be reinstalled?
[07:17] <matthew__> heh
[07:17] <MasterShrek> holdurfire, nvm, it works
[07:17] <ankur> is there any password generating software in graphical mode in ubuntu?
[07:17]  * speeddemon8803 sits back and smiles
[07:17] <bazhang> Sisco: it can't become part of a botnet heh
[07:17] <Sisco> really?
[07:17]  * matthew__ laughs
[07:17] <Sisco> never heard of a linux botneT?
[07:17] <Sisco> lol
[07:17] <Sisco> i sure have and seen one
[07:18] <matthew__> bahang, dont feed the trolls ;)
[07:18] <databits> hey whats up everyone
[07:18] <bazhang> Sisco: better ask your question in ##windows
[07:18] <databits> I am really in need some some install help
[07:18] <Sisco> why?
[07:18] <ankur> is there any password generating software in graphical mode in ubuntu?
[07:18] <LinkSYS[sleep]> !#ubuntu-offtopic | Sisco
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-offtopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <databits> could someone help me out
[07:18] <Sisco> i know what windows can do, i want to know what ubuntu can do that windows cant
[07:18] <Optimus55> does unreal tournament 2004 run natively in linux?
[07:18] <Sisco> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:18] <holdurfire> master can u see it?
[07:18] <bulmer> ankur-> do you ever use google?
[07:19] <matthew__> optimus, yes i believe it does
[07:19] <matthew__> optimus, or was the ut goty?  you should be able to look itup
[07:19] <speeddemon8803> !repeat
[07:19] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:19] <Optimus55> matthew: nice thnx
[07:20] <Evanlec> Optimus55, i believe ut2004 has a linux version yes
[07:20] <databits> hey can someone help me with a image based install would really appreciate it
[07:20] <databits> plz
[07:21] <matthew__> Optimus, it was release native for Linux on Mar 16, 2004 according to Wikipedia
[07:22] <user11_011> what is the use of dmake?
[07:22] <databits> can anyone tell me where I can go to actually get some damn help ?
[07:22] <user11_011> what should be done when an application works on configure, bootstrap and forms a dmake?
[07:22] <Darius08x> google.com
[07:22] <Darius08x> :D
[07:22] <speeddemon8803> databits...try ubuntuforums.org
[07:23] <databits> I am on there right now
[07:23] <EvaLuaTe> could someone point me to a guide on how to recompile/update the kernel version ?
[07:23] <Optimus55> matthew__: thanks a lot. you dont know if it was on the same cd as the windows version or a separate set of disks though
[07:23] <Optimus55> ?
[07:23] <databits> I mean jesus no one know's how to install linux lol
[07:23] <nadio> Whitch package is used for network server booting ? (for server)
[07:23] <databits> I am just trying to install it from the disk image off the harddrive now
[07:23] <Optimus55> matthew__: no worries, i found it
[07:24] <JusticeZero> OK, I got into the CLI, but now I don't know what command I can edit xorg.conf with in a pure CLI environment.
[07:24] <speeddemon8803> Well, youll probably have better luck over there...(thats just a guess)..just gotta be patient.
[07:24] <matthew__> nadio, you need a dhcpd and a tftp server
[07:24] <MasterShrek> JusticeZero, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:24] <JusticeZero> Thank you Shrek, brb.
[07:25] <user11_011> what should be done when an application works on configure, bootstrap and forms a dmake?
[07:25] <matthew__> nadio, do you mean that you want to have diskless workstations on your network?
[07:25] <nadio> matthew__: I know and something called, bootstrap but cant find any packet named wit that
[07:25] <nadio> matthew__: yes
[07:26] <johns^> nadio: you could check ltsp.org
[07:26] <johns^> i've run such a setup on debian and ubuntu
[07:27] <matthew__> nadio, I do all my serverside stuff on OpenBSD, but there is a package called tftpd.  I would start there.
[07:27] <nadio> johns^: k thanks, for the edivce.
[07:27] <matthew__> nadio, you should already have a dhcpd already installed
[07:27] <astro76> !install | databits
[07:27] <ubotu> databits: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:27] <nadio> matthew__: DHCPD and ftpd already installed :)
[07:27] <johns^> nadio: and use dhcpd3
[07:27] <JusticeZero> OK, what's a good generic to put in for the driver that I can boot in?
[07:27] <EvaLuaTe> could someone point me to a guide on how to recompile/update the kernel version on ubuntu dapper please ?
[07:27] <nadio> oh TFTPd even
[07:28] <matthew__> nadio - then it is just a matter of setting things up
[07:28] <Sisco> what the crap
[07:28] <speeddemon8803> !gutsy
[07:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[07:28] <Sisco> i have ubuntu desktop 7.10 installed
[07:28] <Sisco> whats the root pw?
[07:28] <matthew__> LTSP is a good place to start probably
[07:28] <trex_> hi there guys.. is anyone here familiar with installation of wine for 7.04 on 64bit AMD? i was trying the instructions on the forum but it is not working..
[07:28] <astro76> !root | Sisco
[07:28] <ubotu> Sisco: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:28] <x_zeuss> what would be best for a server ubuntu 7.10 or debian?
[07:28] <trex_> my pc always reboots whenever i try to open a file for wine...
[07:28] <JusticeZero> Sisco - try 'password'?
[07:29] <scguy318> trex_: what's the file? have you checked the AppDb?
[07:29] <johns^> x_zeuss: it's a matter of preference. I run a debian server and an ubuntu dapper server
[07:30] <trex_> scguy318: how to i do that? i am a complete newbie on these things. how do i check the appDb ?
[07:30] <johns^> x_zeuss: With ubuntu I prefer a LTS release for servers
[07:30] <x_zeuss>  johns^: i am interested in a solltuion for a company with about 50 computers
[07:30] <Darius08x> Well crap, it's still not working. Gonna ask again one last time. I just recently installed ubuntu desktop 7.10, booted it up, logged in then got scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O dead device error. I then reboot, and get grub error 17, I then have gone to try and reinstall. But when I get to the "prepare partitions" it doesn't list that I have any.
[07:30] <matthew__> Can anyone tell me what the [security] designation next to a package name means?
[07:31] <johns^> x_zeuss: both will doe fine. Depending on the hardware and what you want the server to do
[07:31] <x_zeuss>  johns^: or would it be best to wait for ubuntu 8.04 server edition , i understand that it will have lts
[07:31] <qiyong> what is the next ubuntu release?
[07:31] <scguy318> !hardy | qiyong
[07:31] <ubotu> qiyong: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:31] <qiyong> is the version Year.Month ?
[07:31] <scguy318> Darius08x: hmm, any show in GPartEd?
[07:31] <scguy318> qiyong: no
[07:31] <Kavok> I booted from the Ubuntu CD trying to install it, I got a message about being in low graphics mode, now I am at a command prompt ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[07:31] <scguy318> qiyong: well
[07:31] <Kavok> What do I do?
[07:32] <Darius08x> Don't know what that is, or how to use it.
[07:32] <scguy318> qiyong: on second thought that may be the case :)
[07:32] <johns^> x_zeuss: In that case I would use 7.10 server and upgrade to 8.04 next april. Upgrades go smooth most of the time
[07:32] <Mwa`> Ubuntu cannot use my eithernet or wireless connections
[07:32] <x_zeuss>  johns^: the server will be used for exchange server with postfix i think, internet acceses, even a setup as hot spot for wireless
[07:32] <Mwa`> and it could last night
[07:32] <scguy318> Darious08x: if you're on the LiveCD, System -> Admin -> GPartEd (or Partition Editor)
[07:32] <Darius08x> Ok, hold on.
[07:32] <Kavok> Anyone?
[07:32] <Mwa`> Does anyone know how to make it work again?
[07:33] <johns^> x_zeuss: any current hardware will do for 50 clients. I used a P1-200 for mail and some other stuff for a 20 clients network for years
[07:33] <scguy318> Kavok: try booting the LiveCD in safe graphics
[07:33] <Kavok> scguy318: How do I do that?
[07:33] <qiyong> scguy318: so the future release would be 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10 ..... if everything on schedule
[07:34] <Mwa`> As far as I can see, the cable is plugged in
[07:34] <scguy318> qiyong: no
[07:34] <Mwa`> but no lights are turning on
[07:34] <scguy318> qiyong: releases are every six months
[07:34] <scguy318> qiyong: and I think they do increment major, not sure
[07:34] <scguy318> qiyong: your observation could be right tho :)
[07:34] <glassface> what font is required to get the menu items properly in xmms.
[07:34] <qiyong> scguy318: :)
[07:34] <glassface> or what should i configure to get the menu items
[07:35] <astro76> scguy318, major? it's year.month
[07:35] <scguy318> Kavok: boot the LiveCD, pick Start in safe graphics
[07:35] <glassface> in feisty it was ok. but not in gutsy
[07:35] <John_R> a sphincter says what?
[07:35] <Darius08x> scguy318: It's scanning all devices still..taking a bit
[07:35] <scguy318> astro76: which you are absolutely right
[07:35] <x_zeuss> johns^: so your suggestion would be to go with ubuntu, not debian? i would prefer ubuntu because i can also find lots of tutorials for the server setup and because it is really up to date
[07:35] <cjsoftuk> Has anyone else had problems with the latest NM upgrade?
[07:35] <Evanlec> scguy318, the releases correspond to the date yea
[07:35] <JusticeZero> What can I do to my xorg.conf to set it to a safe boot that will work so that I can use the GUI to put the drivers back?
[07:35] <x_zeuss> johns^: what do u think about opensuse?
[07:35] <John_R> ubuntu for desktop, debian for server
[07:36] <astro76> !xconfig | JusticeZero
[07:36] <ubotu> JusticeZero: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[07:36] <x_zeuss> johns^: or what would you recomand for desktop use for a company with an ubuntu server?
[07:37] <elkbuntu> x_zeuss, when does this need to be done by?
[07:37] <johns^> x_zeuss: Windows XP :P
[07:37] <Darius08x> About how long should it take GParted to scan?
[07:37] <scguy318> Darius08x: a minute max, there might be something up with that HDD
[07:37] <scguy318> Darius08x: what does sudo fdisk -l say?
[07:38] <x_zeuss> elkbuntu: not very soon
[07:38] <elkbuntu> Darius08x, depends how many disks of how large it can take a few mins
[07:38] <johns^> x_zeuss: no really, if you want Linux, use a beginner friendly distribution. I prefer ubuntu 7.10 atm, but Suse is allright, Xandros I have a soft spot for (been beta tester for the very first release) or Fedora
[07:38] <elkbuntu> x_zeuss, if you wait until Hardy Heron is out, it'll be LTS so will have the extended support period
[07:39] <cjsoftuk> Any idea why NetworkManager failed to upgrade this morning?  It seems to be something funny up with the restart script, but I have no idea....
[07:39] <johns^> x_zeuss: or Mint, that's Ubuntu based btw
[07:39] <Darius08x> uhhh that command you gave me says "Here DISK is something like /dev/hdb or /dev/sda and PARTITION is something like /dev/hda7
[07:39] <x_zeuss> johns^: the idea is to use a free distro and also a good distro, i also thought about mint
[07:39] <Darius08x> and gives me some other things
[07:39] <Darius08x> Want me to list it all?
[07:40] <x_zeuss> elkbuntu: for the server edition there is no gui right?
[07:40] <marcioapf> Evanlec, thx for help =). I need to go now.
[07:40] <elkbuntu> x_zeuss, not by default, no
[07:40] <Evanlec> marcioapf, welcome
[07:40] <johns^> x_zeuss: Free and good: it doesn't really matter. I think Ubuntu is very easy to install and and support for nvidia, ati, mp3, flash, java plugin, that kind of stuff
[07:41] <marcioapf> Evanlec, thought you weren't here xD
[07:41] <Kavok> Well this is highly irritating, the install wizard's lower half is cut off on my screen
[07:41] <Kavok> how do I get it to show up
[07:41] <johns^> Kavok: press left alt and drag the screen?
[07:42] <scguy318> Kavok: hmm, your best bet is probably either to attempt to reconfigure X with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <johns^> s/screen/window
[07:42] <scguy318> Kavok: or use alternate CD
[07:42] <Darius08x> Usage: fdisk [-b SSZ] [-u] DISK Change partition table           fdisk -l [-b SSZ] [-u] DISK List partiton Table(s)      fdisk -s PARTITIION   give partition size(s) in blocks    fdisk -v       Give fdisk version           -u: give start and end in sector (instead of cylinder_ units      -b 2048: (for certain MO disks) use 2048-bye sectors
[07:42] <scguy318> Kavok: in any case we'll have to reconfigure X post-install
[07:42] <scguy318> Darius08x: sudo fdisk -l? like the letter L?
[07:42] <Kavok> johns^: Didn't work,
[07:42] <Kavok> Im going to need the nvidia drivers for my screen to work properly anyhow
[07:42] <Kavok> is there any way to shrink the screen
[07:42] <johns^> Kavok: ok, what scguy318 said, use the alternate cd
[07:43] <Darius08x> .... L not i
[07:43] <Darius08x> uhh sudo fdisk -l does nothing
[07:43] <Kavok> im out of blank CDs :\
[07:43] <Kavok> lol
[07:43] <counterpoint> hello
[07:43] <Darius08x> just starts a new line. Doesn't list anything.
[07:43] <scguy318> Kavok: then perform a net install if desired
[07:43] <scguy318> !install | Kavok
[07:43] <ubotu> Kavok: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:44] <Kavok> can't I just resize the window :\
[07:44] <scguy318> Kavok: not really :(
[07:45] <Kavok> how do I do an alternative CD or something
[07:46] <johns^> Kavok: the alternate cd is a text mode install. It's more fool-proof but slightly less easy
[07:46] <Darius08x> So is my HD screwed? Why would it have let me installed earlier if it's messed up?
[07:47] <Kavok> If I wanted to do a text install again I'd do ubuntu :\
[07:47] <scguy318> Darious08x: I think it's something hardware wise
[07:47] <oaken33> irc://irc.freenode.net/vorbis
[07:47] <scguy318> Darious08x: thus the dead device error message you mentioned
[07:47] <Kavok> do gentoo*
[07:47] <scguy318> Darious08x: i dunno, a cold boot?
[07:47] <Kavok> I've managed to cheat it though :P
[07:47] <Kavok> I moved the taskbars or whatever to the left and right
[07:47] <Kavok> and I can see the top few pixels of the buttons
[07:47] <scguy318> Darious08x: and sorry for typoing your name
[07:47] <Darius08x> cold boot? >.>
[07:48] <x_zeuss> elkbuntu: so i can install a gui after for the server edition? or would it be best to go with the text version?
[07:48] <JusticeZero> Woohoo, it's up! Thank you. =)
[07:48] <scguy318> Darious08x: shut down, start up?
[07:48] <elkbuntu> x_zeuss, you can do either, but yes, CLI is better as it uses less resources when idling
[07:48] <scguy318> Darious08x: check the cables on your HDD? i know, silly suggestion but possible
[07:48] <Darius08x> Oh, done it, same error.
[07:48] <johns^> x_zeuss: you don't have to run the X-server even when it's installed. but apt-get install x/k/ubuntu-desktop will give you a GUI
[07:49] <johns^> x_zeuss: I run windowmaker on my debian server, but it's not started at boot time.
[07:49] <Darius08x> hmm, guess I can try
[07:50] <johns^> whenever I need it, I use startx. After I plug in an monitor keyboard and mouse offcourse
[07:50] <EvaLuaTe> is there any way i could recompile the kernel on ubuntu dapper ? if yes, how please ?
[07:50] <johns^> EvaLuaTe: there's been something about that on howtoforge.org
[07:50] <johns^> but you need build-essential, kernel sources and stuff like that. It's all there
[07:51] <EvaLuaTe> johns^, ok thank you, i'll search there
[07:51] <x_zeuss> elkbuntu: as a sollution for vpn what would you suggest?
[07:52] <scguy318> Darius08x: if you need access to your HDD data, I advise plugging it into another machine
[07:52] <scguy318> Darius08x: I suspect something hardware wise
[07:52] <Kavok> Will the guided partition modes erase my XP partition?
[07:52] <Darius08x> That sucks. This computer is pretty new. Only a few months old.
[07:53] <Baroquen> hi everyone
[07:53] <scguy318> Darius08x: well, I found a bad memory module in a new one that had strange crashes :P
[07:54] <x_zeuss> johns^: would it be easier to maintain a server with a gui? i don't worry about the computers resources, that won't be a problem
[07:54] <Kavok> If I choose "Guided - use the largest continuous free space" will that erase my XP partition
[07:54] <Darius08x> haha, this is great, I just tried loading a windows cd and get a bluescreen
[07:54] <scguy318> Kavok: no
[07:55] <scguy318> Kavok: but you probably either want to resize manually or pick a resize option
[07:55] <tarelerulz> I  have  Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) wireless card .  I have  try ndiswrapper  and about 3 different windows. try bcl43xx with firmware ,but I think b34 is the one I need to install .   The only thing is I think I need a newer kernel like 2.6.24 ,but  I am not sure
[07:55] <scguy318> Kavok: a manual partition job will permit you to create a separate partition for /home
[07:55] <x_zeuss> johns^: ?
[07:55] <Baroquen> i'm having sound card issues.  i've tried to compile the sound driver manually (snd-hda-intel), but when I do a modprobe, it says the driver doesn't exist...
[07:55] <x_zeuss> johns^: would it be easier to maintain a server with a gui? i don't worry about the computers resources, that won't be a problem
[07:56] <Mwa`> Really, does anyone know what the matter is? I kinda need this to work
[07:56] <speeddemon8803> x_zeuss: know that was directed towards johns^ but yes :)
[07:56] <Kavok> okay I have 86636 free MB on my HDD, how do I partition it?
[07:56] <elkbuntu> x_zeuss, sorry, i'm having a little bit of a stray dog here atm... trying to keep canine out while allowing air in is proving interesting
[07:56] <scguy318> Baroquen: you may have already seen this but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[07:57] <scguy318> Kavok: free as in unpartitioned?
[07:57] <MukiDA> The -c option in WGet overwrites complete files. Is there any workaround for this? I tried -nc but it ignores incomplete files >_< anger
[07:57] <Kavok> scguy318: yes
[07:57] <Baroquen> scguy318: thanks for the recommendation..  i'll have a look now...
[07:58] <scguy318> Darious08x: there's probably something up with your hardware, based on what's happening
[07:58] <Kavok> I have a 160gig HDD, 70gig used by windows
[07:58] <Kavok> so the rest of that space is free
[07:58] <scguy318> Kavok: you'd either want to use the resize slider or manual partition
[07:58] <scguy318> !partitioning | Kavok
[07:58] <ubotu> Kavok: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:58] <Darius08x> Well at least Christmas is coming up.
[07:58] <scguy318> Kavok: manual partition just liek
[07:58] <Darius08x> I can ask for a new HDD.
[07:59] <scguy318> Darius08x: or a new computer :P
[07:59] <speeddemon8803> !gparted
[07:59] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:59] <Kavok> scguy318: partition just like what?
[07:59] <scguy318> Kavok: resize NTFS, then make new ext3 partitions
[07:59] <Kavok> why resize the NTFS?
[07:59] <Darius08x> This computer is too new to get a new one. >_<
[07:59] <scguy318> Kavok: so you can create new ext3 partitions for Ubuntu
[07:59] <scguy318> Kavok: unless you already have unpartitioned space
[07:59] <Kavok> I have free space
[08:00] <adamonline45> Is there a package for avant window navigator?
[08:00] <scguy318> Kavok: alright, well, partition as you please
[08:00] <scguy318> Kavok: sry I'm tired, probably ramblin
[08:00] <Kavok> ... I don't know what to do with the free space
[08:00] <Kavok> Thats what I asked
[08:00] <Kavok> lol
[08:00] <neil_ubuntu> i have compal hgl31 notebook ubuntu cannot install , any ideas
[08:00] <Baroquen> scguy318: I've looked at that link before - unfortunately, no solution there for me.  I previously had the audio working, but not sure specifically what I did to make it work...
[08:00] <Darius08x> I'm trying to get the windows cd to work now, but it seems to be stuck on "Examining 305243 MB Disk at 0 at id 0 on bus 0 on atapi...
[08:00] <Mwa`> Please ._. I need networking!
[08:01] <scguy318> Darius08x: I'm afraid to say this but your hard drive might have crapped out or something :(
[08:02] <scguy318> Kavok: just make new ext3 partitions
[08:02] <Baroquen> my specific audio chip is an ICH9 - which I believe is an snd-hda-intel.  i tried the standard gutsy packages and the latest packages from the alsa web site.  modprobe still says that snd-hda-intel does not exist...  any suggestions on what else to try???
[08:02] <Darius08x> ):
[08:02] <neil_ubuntu> i have compal hgl31 notebook ubuntu cannot install , any ideas:-(
[08:02] <scguy318> Kavok: and a swap partition if you want
[08:02] <scguy318> Kavok: or you go through guided - continuous free space
[08:02] <scguy318> Kavok: *could, and if you wanted
[08:02] <scguy318> neil_ubuntu: why can't you install?
[08:03] <neil_ubuntu> scguy318: using the livecd it auto reboots during the orange loading thingy
[08:04] <Zeron> #nlug
[08:04] <scguy318> neil_ubuntu: if you try booting in Safe Graphics, what happens?
[08:04] <scguy318> neil_ubuntu: and have you considered alternate installation methods?
[08:04] <scguy318> !install | neil_ubuntu
[08:04] <ubotu> neil_ubuntu: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:05] <x_zeuss> elkbuntu: for 64 bit proccessors would it be best to use the 64bit version or 32?
[08:05] <see> anyone around
[08:05] <neil_ubuntu> scguy318: i tried alternate install the prob is the same
[08:06] <speeddemon8803> you might want to check that last website on ubotu's last message op's..its invalid.
[08:06] <scguy318> neil_ubuntu: ok, try booting the LiveCD without quiet splash boot options by doing
[08:06] <scguy318> neil_ubuntu: press F6 at boot menu, then backspace over quiet splash and see what messages occur
[08:06] <Darius08x> I got to the part where I can choose where to install Windows. And it said it could not access the data on the partition so HDD fucked?
[08:06] <scguy318> neil_ubuntu: you could also consider a net install via Windows
[08:07] <see> where would i find the HorizSync  and VertRefresh  rate for my proview 19in widescreen>
[08:07] <see> ?
[08:07] <speeddemon8803> !language
[08:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:07] <Darius08x> Oh, sorry.
[08:07] <Darius08x> Didn't even think about it.
[08:07] <scguy318> Darious08x: like all partitions unknown? did you install
[08:07] <scguy318> Darious08x: guided - entire disk?
[08:07] <speeddemon8803> just friendly reminder is all. :)
[08:07] <scguy318> Darious08x: when you were installing Ubuntu?
[08:07] <neil_ubuntu> scguy318: ok ill try
[08:07] <scguy318> see: spec sheet at your manufacturer's website
[08:08] <see> ill give it a shot, thanks
[08:08] <Darius08x> I believe so Scguy318
[08:08] <KorN[CM]> hi all, I was hoping someone can lend a quick hand to downloading a decent alternative to flashfxp - which I used to use on MS windows
[08:08] <KorN[CM]> running ubuntu desktop version 7.10 which I'm loving
[08:08] <scguy318> Darius08x: then that Windows partition is bai bai if you were not aware
[08:08] <KorN[CM]> but so far have found no DECENT alternatives
[08:08] <KorN[CM]> any help would be MOST appreciated :)
[08:08] <Darius08x> Well, wait. It let me choose how much of the disk I wanted to use. And I only used 50% of it.
[08:09] <scguy318> Darius08x: oh, ok!
[08:09] <scguy318> Darius08x: that was guided - resize :)
[08:09] <Darius08x> Ah, ok.
[08:09] <scguy318> Darius08x: but anyway
[08:09] <scguy318> Darius08x: the partition screen basically says nice and unreadable your HDD?
[08:09] <scguy318> Darius08x: probably best shot now is to plug HDD into another machine, see if you can read anything out
[08:10] <scguy318> KorN[CM]: FlashFXP, download manager?
[08:10] <scguy318> KorN[CM]: d4x is a good one
[08:10] <Darius08x> Don't really have another machine to try it on. :/
[08:10] <KorN[CM]> ok let me have a look :)
[08:10] <scguy318> KorN[CM]: oh its an FTP manager
[08:10] <scguy318> !ftp | KorN[CM]
[08:10] <ubotu> KorN[CM]: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[08:10] <scguy318> Darius08x: :(
[08:10] <KorN[CM]> does it support imp, and exp ssl?
[08:10] <speeddemon8803> My laptop has windows xp on it, a HP modified version..and ive tried to install Ubuntu on it..ANY version...and it says cannot create partition, cannot format either, any suggestions?
[08:10] <scguy318> KorN[CM]: not sure, you may wanna check
[08:10] <KorN[CM]> k will do, thanks
[08:11] <dooglus> KorN[CM]: it doesn't do imp ssl, but it does pixie and troll ssl
[08:11] <KorN[CM]> Ive tried  gftp, and kftpgrabber
[08:11] <KorN[CM]> neither work for me
[08:11] <KorN[CM]> hmmm I MUST have imp ssl support
[08:11] <speeddemon8803> I can re-wipe it with the hp made cd's with NO problem whatsoever..i pop ubuntu in..and problems start.
[08:11] <Baroquen> i've tried to compile the snd-hda-intel driver (successfully) - but modprobe says it doesn't exist.  I couldnt see any error messages during the compile.  I'm not sure of why this is happening.  Could it be an alsa bug?
[08:11] <yomm> Hi, How can i "set a fixed order" for my 3 soundcards ? I tried alsactl store & restore, but it doesn't restore the order, just the cards settings ...Any help would be greatly appreciated !
[08:11] <scguy318> speeddemon8803: how are you partitioning?
[08:12] <scguy318> KorN[CM]: there's FileZilla port for *nix I think, and you could choose to run FlashFXP on Wine if you really wanted to
[08:12] <speeddemon8803> using full disk, telling it to just do a clean install.
[08:12] <adamonline45> !avant
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <KorN[CM]> yeah I wanted to avoid using wine, but it may be the ONLY option ):
[08:12] <speeddemon8803> ive tried out all possibilities..nothing works though.
[08:12] <scguy318> Darius08x: right now I guess if you can, burn or make a USB bootable for Linux System Rescue CD or Rescubuntu Remix
[08:12] <Darius08x> .....what
[08:12] <scguy318> speeddemon8803: well, what happens?
[08:13] <KorN[CM]> btw im using it for ftp-ftp transfers
[08:13] <scguy318> Darius08x: might be a shot at data recovery
[08:13] <KorN[CM]> hence why it needs to be as CLOSE to flashfxp as possible :)
[08:13] <scguy318> speeddemon8803: and have you tried alternate installation methods?
[08:13] <scguy318> !install | speeddemon8803
[08:13] <ubotu> speeddemon8803: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[08:13] <scguy318> speeddemon8803: there are ways to boot a net install via NTLDR and others
[08:14] <speeddemon8803> im about to just download the alt-install cd.
[08:14] <speeddemon8803> cuz ive been using the standard cd from shipit...with clearly no luck.
[08:15] <KorN[CM]> filezilla looks nice :D
[08:15] <scguy318> speeddemon8803: you can boot a net install
[08:15] <KorN[CM]> let's hope imp ssl works, and I'll be happy as larry!
[08:15] <scguy318> speeddemon8803: basically alternate CD install but instead of APT sources from CD, downloads from net
[08:15] <scooby> looking for a tutorial on how to run xp under linux (vmware)
[08:16] <Alan2> grr
[08:16] <dhg_> hello all
[08:16] <user11_011> !ming
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ming - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <speeddemon8803> !mingw
[08:16] <scguy318> !vmware | scooby
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mingw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <ubotu> scooby: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:17] <dhg_> any body know how to install HUEWAI 620 for ubuntu
[08:17] <tarelerulz> Do any of you  have a 4311  rev 2  broadcom wlan cards ?  If so what did you do to get it working?
[08:18] <scguy318> tarelerulz: I have a broadcom, not sure what chip/revision, but a good idea is ndiswrapper
[08:18] <scooby> !virtualizers
[08:18] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[08:18] <scguy318> tarelerulz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:18] <scooby> how do i access !virtualizers
[08:18] <scguy318> !virtualizers
[08:19] <speeddemon8803> !vm
[08:19] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[08:19] <scguy318> Darius08x: wish you luck with your probs, but I must go for the night :( cya
[08:19] <speeddemon8803> ;)
[08:19] <Darius08x> Thank you for the help, bye.
[08:19] <tarelerulz> scguy I have used nidwrapper ,but the card worked halfway . I could do irc , synaptic and stuff ,but web pages would time out.
[08:20] <tarelerulz> on the other hand I think I mess up my system so much I don't know if I did not do something that made it not work right.   after while lan had the same problem
[08:21] <Baroquen> i'm having troubles with my sound driver.  modprobe says it doesn't exist.  is anyone able to help me debug the problem?
[08:21] <Extravert> hello can someone help me with C?
[08:22] <dooglus> Extravert: yes
[08:22] <tarelerulz> So baroquen does your card work . I mean you get sound and stuff
[08:22] <dooglus> Extravert: although this is #ubuntu
[08:22] <KorN[CM]> YAY filezilla works
[08:22] <KorN[CM]> thanks so much!
[08:23] <Baroquen> tarelerulz: no sound.  it used to work and I had to re-install...  I had to "tweak" it previously and someone helped me last time
[08:24] <speeddemon8803> !sound
[08:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:24] <adamonline45> !awm
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <yaki> !dvd
[08:25] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:25] <tarelerulz> Baroquen ,  I love random  stuff stop working out of the blue . I have had that to me so much or different thing work on different installs or synaptic not being able to install something is fun too
[08:25] <Baroquen> speeddemon8803: I tried the soundtroubleshooting (all options) and none of them worked.
[08:25] <speeddemon8803> hmm....
[08:26] <Baroquen> tarelrulz: the chipset is a relatively new Intel chipset, so the tweaking stuff is predictable ... I just don't know what more to tweak than the instructions at soundtroubleshooting site...
[08:26] <Ripper^^> quit
[08:26] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a problem, I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy
[08:26] <AnAnt> now any user can login without supplying a password !
[08:26] <dooglus> AnAnt: whats your IP address?
[08:27] <Don64> lol
[08:27]  * speeddemon8803 looks at dooglus
[08:27] <AnAnt> and if I try to run a command sudo I get this: "Sorry, try again." 3 times (without even asking me for a password)
[08:27] <Extravert> dooglus: sry
[08:27] <AnAnt> dooglus: I'm behind a NAT
[08:27] <dooglus> AnAnt: just kidding
[08:27] <tarelerulz> Baroquen,  I feel you on that .  At this moment my wireless card don't work and I am lost as to how to make it work. I think my card it too old or something
[08:27] <Extravert> dooglus: do you know how to access a text file and take all the data from it and put it in a string?
[08:28] <AnAnt> man, even root logs in !!!
[08:28] <tarelerulz> I mean what I have read are for rev 3-4 none which is my card.
[08:28] <AnAnt> man, even root logs in with a password !
[08:28] <AnAnt> that's crazy !
[08:28] <speeddemon8803> anant, how long have you had it installed?
[08:28] <AnAnt> speeddemon8803: I just upgraded !
[08:28] <dooglus> Extravert: open() and read()?
[08:29] <speeddemon8803> hmm....wow.
[08:29]  * jenda waves at dooglus :)
[08:29] <dooglus> hey jenda
[08:29] <Extravert> dooglus: fopen() and fclose()?
[08:29] <speeddemon8803> omg its JENDA!
[08:29] <dooglus> jenda: do you still have that t-shirt?
[08:29]  * speeddemon8803 bows
[08:29] <Baroquen> i just found out there's an alsa channel... i'll try over there :)
[08:29] <speeddemon8803> hehe
[08:29] <jenda> dooglus: sure do :)
[08:29] <dooglus> Extravert: fopen gives you buffered input if you need that
[08:29] <jenda> dooglus: PM
[08:30] <Extravert> dooglus: il pm
[08:30] <speeddemon8803> jenda: still doing the poster thing?
[08:30] <AnAnt> I suspect that it has to do with PAM
[08:31] <AnAnt> I used to be member of an Active Directory in Feisty (hence I did some changes to PAM)
[08:31] <tarelerulz> This wireless card sound like anything one one heard of or have Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)?
[08:31] <scooby> how do i open a terminal as root?
[08:32] <astro76> scooby, sudo -i
[08:32] <astro76> !sudo | scooby
[08:32] <ubotu> scooby: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:32] <AnAnt> can't anyone help ?
[08:33] <jenda> speeddemon8803: unfortunately, I'm out :(
[08:33] <speeddemon8803> awww man!
[08:33] <speeddemon8803> Would I get in trouble if I tried to make my own?
[08:35] <speeddemon8803> nevermind that question..DURR
[08:35] <speeddemon8803> lol
[08:36] <speeddemon8803> what was the site for the picture?
[08:40] <Suva> OMG OMG, I installed bunununvununtu yesterday
[08:40] <Suva> There is some sort of problem though
[08:40] <Suva> I installed the realtime kernel
[08:40] <Suva> And now sometimes when I log on, it complains about "gnome-settings deamon not running"
[08:41] <Suva> And desktop looks uglee when I log in, when I restart X then it's all right again
[08:41] <mosno> Suva: i got that too. but i reverted to the default kernel
[08:41] <mosno> Suva: that's related to the settings-daemon
[08:41] <Suva> Reverting to default kernel is unfortunately not an option
[08:41] <intint> suva: i get that too sometimes in vmware
[08:41] <Suva> What else could I try?
[08:42] <mosno> Suva: if we're both getting it on fresh installs, then it's likely a bug -- check launchpad
[08:42] <Suva> Launchpad?
[08:42] <mosno> Suva: check google ;)
[08:42] <dgjones> !launchpad | Suva
[08:42] <ubotu> Suva: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:42] <Baroquen> bye
[08:43] <johns^> Suva: I've had that also but not anymore. As far as I recall, it was a permission problem, but I'm not sure. What does it say when you run it from a terminal?
[08:43] <Suva> johns^: Run what from terminal?
[08:43] <johns^> gnome-settings.daemon
[08:44] <johns^> gnome-settings-daemon
[08:44] <user11_011> which pack should be installed which gives JAVA_HOME
[08:44] <johns^> I believe I removed some temp files in /tmp
[08:45] <neehoh> hi
[08:45] <johns^> or maybe I added it to the startup stuff in system>settings>sessions
[08:46] <Archon> what package do i need to be able to connect to mysql (via apache2) but not to INSTALL the mysql server?
[08:46] <jack|ass> mysql-client
[08:46] <neehoh> does exisist one chanel by wordpress?
[08:46] <Suva> That gnome-settings bug seems to be weird one
[08:46] <Archon> ok thanks jack|ass
[08:46] <bezibaerchen> Archon: NO
[08:46] <Suva> Because sometimes it does work
[08:47] <jack|ass> Archon: no problem, douche!
[08:47] <jack|ass> Archon: oh, wait... jack|ass... yes... :)
[08:47] <bezibaerchen> Archon: you need "php5-mysql"
[08:47] <Archon> hmm
[08:47] <jack|ass> Archon: oh, sorry, he's correct.
[08:47] <jack|ass> Archon: I missed the part about apache2.
[08:47] <zetheroo> what will open a CMYK PSD file in linux?
[08:47] <evi|one> Hi. What would be a good place to bing up a ssh tunnel? Already tried /etc/rc.local and it didn't work.
[08:47] <Archon> thanks bezibaerchen
[08:48] <jack|ass> Archon: although really depending on what you're doing, there's probably a perl one that'll work too.
[08:48] <Archon> php
[08:48] <bezibaerchen> mysqlclient may be a dependency, but you need the php-module to connect via php. or viceversa if you wanna introduce perl :-)
[08:48] <jack|ass> zetheroo: Gimp maybe?
[08:48] <whabo> IS there a WAy to get a skype phone adapter WORKING in linux??? HELP .. i have a Dlink PHD-50U
[08:48] <hyde> hej
[08:48] <jack|ass> zetheroo: or is that one of the things they don't support yet?
[08:48] <zetheroo> jack|ass: nope
[08:48] <hyde> jest tu ktoś??
[08:49] <dgjones> !pl | hyde
[08:49] <ubotu> hyde: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:49] <zetheroo> anyone?.... I need to open a CMYK PSD file in Linux
[08:49] <BubblegumTate> I just installed Apache/MySQL/PHP and apache seems to work fine and SSI and PHP work but it refuses to serve the .css files returning a 403 error. How do I configure it to allow a file type? (I tried #apache but it's pretty dead there)
[08:49] <triplc> hi all
[08:49] <BubblegumTate> zetheroo: pixel should be able to help
[08:49] <triplc> How to select Chinese font for BlueFish?
[08:49] <zetheroo> BubblegumTate: thats not free is it!?
[08:49] <chilli_> lol
[08:49] <chilli_> bluefish
[08:50] <BubblegumTate> it's non-free but I think there's a trial
[08:50] <BubblegumTate> version
[08:50] <corruptionoflulz> what command to install kde desktop?
[08:50] <triplc> How to select Chinese font for BlueFish? I am using "ordinary font" for other stuff... but went it comes to Chiense text... it just selects the urgly font somewhere I don't know
[08:51] <sladen> triplc: it's probably taking place at a lower level
[08:51] <sladen> triplc: eg. a request is made for some text to written in the default font
[08:51] <sladen> triplc: and if the default font does not contain those glyphs, they will be transparently fetched from another font
[08:51] <triplc> sladen, ok... lower level... but please tell me where I can set it
[08:52] <sladen> triplc: System->Prefences->Appearance->Fonts?
[08:53] <triplc> sladen: hmm... no... that preference just only allow to select "one" font.
[08:53] <BubblegumTate> ignor my issues
[08:53] <sladen> triplc: ...the default font?
[08:53] <BubblegumTate> I solved them using the power of mental thinking
[08:54] <corruptionoflulz> what command to install kde desktop?
[08:54] <sladen> triplc: Bluefish may have it's own choice as to what default font to install
[08:54] <corruptionoflulz> aptitude?
[08:54] <chilli_> what si bluefish
[08:54] <sladen> triplc: remember that most web-text /does not/ specify a font
[08:54] <triplc> sladen, actually, I am not using GNOME, I use Fluxbox... please me the program to run... not that meny
[08:54] <triplc> (menu)
[08:54] <chilli_> what is blue fish
[08:55] <Suva> The bug(s) are apparently closed
[08:55] <sladen> triplc: gnome-appearance-properties, I think.
[08:56] <Suva> I wonder whether I should do some debugging or something
[08:56] <sladen> chilli_: BlueFish is an HTML authoring program, that triplc is currently using, you can install in from Add/Remove Programs...
[08:56] <chilli_> what is blue fish
[08:56] <Suva> But in the other hand this is exactly the reason why I migrated from debian
[08:56] <sladen> chilli_: please, just ask once!
[08:56] <chilli_> what does it od
[08:56] <chilli_> sorrie
[08:56] <bauke> hi all. I have 3 fat32 drives listed in "Locations". After some minutes of inactivity I click the drive and it's Nautilis-screen freezes (goes black). After 5 - 10 secs it comes back again. This is irritating, what should I do?
[08:57] <whabo> hey there... is there a program i can use  to record my screen??? like a screen capture????? a clone of frams/camstudio or anything thx???? anyone?
[08:57] <massymax> #pes@irc.ptnet.org
[08:57] <triplc> chilli_, BlueFish is a good editor -- php, html (code),....
[08:57] <bauke> whabo: Istanbul
[08:57] <chilli_> ic
[08:57] <whabo> bauke: is that the only program?
[08:58] <sladen> an HTML authoring program, allows you to create Web (WWW) pages in a graphical click-and-draw way.  Bluefish is an HTML authoring tool.  Bluefish can therefore help you to make webpages in a graphical way, rather than completely from scratch in a text-editor.  http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/ for more details
[08:58] <triplc> sladen: gnome-appearance-properties does not work, i am sorry
[08:58] <bauke> whabo: recordmydesktop
[08:58] <whabo> bauke: thx alot
[08:58] <sladen> triplc: sorry.  Perhaps you could ask fluxbox people if you've chosen to use that
[08:58] <triplc> maybe the best way is to "remove" all other chinese fonts except the one I need :-)
[08:59] <sladen> triplc: I do not know BlueFish, but I suspect there are menus containing preferences
[08:59] <sladen> triplc: that would work for you.  Remember that when you put the page on the web, you will not be able to choose the fonts that the person reading the page has
[08:59] <dgjones> whabo, give me a minute, I'll find a link to the Ubuntu screencasting team, they have some good suggestions about recording your desktop
[09:00] <triplc> sladen, ah... fluxbox does not do anything about that... it is just a Window Manager... and it does not care about most of other things that Gnome/KDE do... anyway, thanks for your helps and patient :-)
[09:00] <sladen> triplc: if it's a case of the Chinese font that comes up by default "not looking good", then your skills and advice on improving that centrally for the whole of *buntu would be greatefully received
[09:01] <sladen> triplc: you can also select the default font from Firefox, for when you view the completed page, is that what you were after?
[09:02] <whabo> dgjones: thx alottt
[09:02] <dgjones> whabo, have a look this, its got suggestions on good practice and software to use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[09:02] <triplc> sladen, I know about Firefox font settings, which contains setting different fonts for different charset... i only hit problem with bluefish which does not have that
[09:02] <Suva> BTW, how do I switch to compiz?
[09:02] <whabo> dgjones: thank you very much
[09:02] <Suva> Is there a button for it somewhere=
[09:02] <dgjones> whabo, your welcome
[09:03] <K_Dallas> Morning guys! I did a stupid thing which made my laptop to ask for  network/server to log in instead of the usual username and pw. But I have no clue as what to enter in there and now i am being locked out of my system. I appreciate any help with this
[09:04] <K_Dallas> i think it is due to activating: Remote Login via XDMCP
[09:04] <gvsa123> quick question... if i want to export settings for firefox in ubuntu for later installations to save settings, plugins, saved passwords, etc... i just have to make a backup of /home/me/.mozilla right?
[09:05] <triplc> gvsa123: yes
[09:06] <gvsa123> triplc: and if i'm trying to manage multiple users on one ubuntu desktop, i can simply save the .mozilla to their /home folder and they should have the same plugins, settings, bookmarks, etc working on their account?
[09:07] <triplc> gvsa123, i never tried that multiple users :-)
[09:08] <gvsa123> i see... but the plugins you install are all in .mozilla right?
[09:09] <triplc> gvsa123, sure
[09:09] <K|NgGh0sT> Hello, I'm not using Ubuntu, I'm using debian but this doesnt matter which distro i'm using. I was wondering if someoen could help me recover my LVM. I rebooted and now it has vanished
[09:10] <gvsa123> triplc: all the plugins are located in .mozilla right?
[09:10] <K|NgGh0sT> I beg of someone with LVM experience to help
[09:10] <pgan> For reference - after my grub error 22, I finally booted. First I made a new primary partition sda1 on remainder of my disk and still could not install grub there as before.  Then I installed Gutsy on sda1, grub was correctly installed there and also booted my original installation on sda5.  I still don't know what the problem was.
[09:10] <Suva> That arises a question, can I someone easily get rid of those volumes Ubuntu created by default
[09:11] <Suva> I want root & swap configuration, no other special volumes
[09:11] <triplc> gvsa123, ~/.mozilla/firefox/something/extensions/ , i think
[09:13] <kane77> what's with all those floods lately?
[09:14] <Ceni> existe alguma pessoa que fala português aqui?
[09:14] <dgjones> !pt | Ceni
[09:14] <ubotu> Ceni: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[09:15] <Ceni> Obrigado!
[09:16] <pgan> How can I make the console font smaller?
[09:17] <user11_011> is lightbox under LGPL?
[09:19] <bauke> pgan: change profile settings
[09:19] <K|NgGh0sT> How can I fix mount: /dev/mapper/vg0-media: can't read superblock ?
[09:20] <PDQ> Http://pdq1.freehostia.com  BEST ANIME RADIO STATION IN THE INTERNET STREAMING AT 320KBPS!!! come listen to us now!
[09:20] <gordonjcp> !ops | PDQ is spamming
[09:20] <ubotu> PDQ is spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[09:21] <blue|palm> hi, if i have just shift-deleted a file, is there any way to recover it?
[09:21] <Ezdeis> witam
[09:21] <PDQ> ctrl z
[09:21] <PDQ> to recover it?
[09:21] <blue|palm> PDQ tried c-z didnt work
[09:21] <blue|palm> PDQ, yes I want to recover it
[09:22] <rob> blackbone, not really, but you could try recovery software (it may work)
[09:22] <ciclo> may be there exist a ~filename
[09:22] <primary> Hello. I installed mp3 preview support for Ubuntu, since I read that it might fix an error I've been getting with Nautilus where I can't open anything because it says "Unable to create pipe: Too many files open" or something (I have to use killall). However, I'm finding the cure to be kind of annoying, but I can't remember how to remove mp3 preview. Can someone help me out?
[09:22] <ciclo> and you can recover it by renaming it
[09:23] <blue|palm> rob, recovery software for ubuntu? do you have a name for me?
[09:23] <blue|palm> ciclo, i doubt it since its a 300mb video file :-(
[09:23]  * luddite greets all
[09:24] <rob> blue|palm, not off the top of my head sorry, you will need to google for it. There does exist several Live CD distros for exactly that purpose, you might be able to recover it by replaying your filesystem journal if you use a journaling filesystem but don't quote me on that
[09:24] <bauke> primary: uninstall mp321
[09:25] <luddite> nortel contivity VPN client connectivity with 7.10: can it be done?
[09:25] <ciclo>  blue|palm, don't try to write anything on that partition, and find a software to recover it
[09:26] <blue|palm> rob, ciclo thanks, off I go to find some sort of recovery softare for GNU/Linux
[09:27] <K_Dallas> if you bear with me, here is what i have got: ubuntu startwith "Add host", help says: the main area on this application shows hosts on the local network that hve XDMCP enabled, ...  and it shows no host to select!
[09:27] <ciclo> blue|palm, you are welcome, and be sure don not write anything on that partition, or, recovery might be failed
[09:28] <blue|palm> ciclo, thanks
[09:28] <luckybamboo> is it possible to access Module-method in script/console? for example tmp = ApplicationHelper.new; tmp.foo   doesn't work.
[09:28] <Kavok> How do I get my "Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter" working with Ubuntu ?
[09:28] <luckybamboo> wrong #
[09:29] <harveyd> I think the copy of flashplayer that ubuntu keeps updating me with is broken
[09:30] <harveyd> r60 seems to fail completely to make socket connections
[09:30] <pgan> bauke: I'm talking about the console font, not the terminal emulator (gnome-terminal) font
[09:30] <chazco> Hi... is anyone else getting really slow downloads from the repositorys?
[09:30] <bezibaerchen> chazco: yes, kinda slow today
[09:31] <chazco> Ah ok... thought it was just mine. Went as low as 10KB/s (down from a usual 240KB/s)
[09:32] <z9999> We are attempting to get our wireless working and wish to try a new driver. Must we uninstall the previously installed driver before proceeding with installing the driver with ndiswrapper? If so what commands are necessary to accomplish this? Thanks
[09:33] <Fethman> Hi can anyone point me to a how to how can I reinstall the intell wireless drivers after manualy recompiling the kernel since it's in the restricted-modules package
[09:33] <user11_011> is lightbox under LGPL?
[09:35] <pgan> z9999: If your previous driver was a module, it would be good to unload it (see "man lsmod").  If instead it was registered under the ndiswrapper module, it would be good to unregister it (see "man ndiswrapper").
[09:36] <pgan> user11_011: I don't know what lightbox is, but have you searched the web for that?
[09:36] <user11_011> pgan: yes but couldnt find it. FYI lightbox is a very commonly used javascript lib
[09:38] <pgan> user11_011: Wikipedia says it's under the  Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 License
[09:38] <user11_011> pgan : oh thanks.
[09:38] <pgan> the project page supports this
[09:38] <LovNPeace> what is that linux utility to change vga mode in console mode
[09:38] <Stevethepirate> Hi. I need a way to make my "line out
[09:38] <AA> FDG
[09:38] <AA> son of a bitch
[09:38] <Stevethepirate> Hi. I need a way to make my "line out" jack on my PC become a sub out... i.e. apply an equalizer to it.
[09:39] <user11_011> pgan : is there any place where we can find license of any product apart from google.
[09:39] <Stevethepirate> !language | AA
[09:39] <ubotu> AA: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:39] <pgan> LovNPeace: I just came to ask how to change the console font!
[09:39] <AA> ihr motherfucker
[09:39] <imyousuf> Hi, has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu?
[09:39] <pgan> user11_011: yahoo?
[09:39] <Stevethepirate> !language | AA
[09:39] <ubotu> AA: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:39] <AA> no mother
[09:39] <user11_011> pgan : was that a joke?
[09:40] <ws159> kjoi
[09:40] <AA> hahaha it was funny
[09:40] <ws159> hgallo
[09:40] <AA> i come germany
[09:40] <AA> hello
[09:40] <Stevethepirate> greets
[09:40] <pgan> user11_011: kind of...  I don't know other ways than reading the project page.
[09:40] <AA> you are sweet
[09:40] <ws159> hk
[09:40] <ws159> hallo jasmin (AA)
[09:40] <pgan> user11_011: that is, the page of the project you are interested in.
[09:41] <ws159> how are you
[09:41] <thomas_> hi @ all
[09:42] <pgan> Fethman: I think you could go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[09:42] <imyousuf> has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu?
[09:42] <user11_011> pgan : That's right. but there needs to be a open source( or rather ubuntu) initiaive where we can go  type the name of any product and we get its latest standings in terms of license.
[09:42] <ws159> zhjtögdn
[09:42] <imyousuf> has anyone installed any USB products with product id = 0610?
[09:42] <ws159> i had school
[09:43] <ws159> haloo
[09:43] <AA> HHHAAAAAAY
[09:44] <AA> WHO LIKE SEX
[09:44] <ws159> ihr kiderficker
[09:44] <dgjones> !ops | AA & ws159
[09:44] <ubotu> AA & ws159: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[09:44] <ws159> aa is ja porno star
[09:44] <wsres> hi
[09:44] <angel> hello room! noob here
[09:44] <kane77> ws159, stop it!
[09:44] <Baroquen> hi everyone...
[09:45] <wsres> moin
[09:45] <ws159> bay bay
[09:45] <Baroquen> I had success at the alsa group and my snd-hda-intel now loads.....
[09:45] <angel> ubuntu is God's gift to the noob nerd
[09:45] <pgan> user11_011: This is outside the scope of Ubuntu, but there may be a project like that.  Or web search engines may be more effective.  Projects hosted at sourceforge can be browsed by license, and I think ones listed at Google code.
[09:46] <pgan> !offtopic | angel
[09:46] <ubotu> angel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:46] <imyousuf> has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu?
[09:46] <imyousuf> or has anyone installed any USB products with product id = 0610?
[09:47] <pgan> How can I change the concole font?
[09:47] <Baroquen> the trick to get snd-hda-intel was to do a rmmod on all "snd" modules and to re-load them...  that was it!!
[09:47] <angel> AWESOME!! i do need a quick Q answered. right now i am running off the live CD (man that is cool) and i was curious to know if i can choose my packages to be included with the install. i want to remove some packages i am not using
[09:47] <angel> or going to use rather
[09:48] <Fethman> pgan: Thanks but I don't think It will work since I want to manually recompile the kernel
[09:48] <_bt> angel: you cannot, but you can remove them after you install
[09:49] <pgan> angel: with the live CD you can't choose the packages that are installed, I think.  You can install them and uninstall them later
[09:49] <timsandtoms> Hey guys? Whats the difference between KDE and GNOME? Im new to linux
[09:49] <angel> thanks _bt, i'll researck making a kickstart file or whatever it is called for the future. **I luv me some unattedned installs**
[09:49] <Xan123> Привет свои есть ?
[09:49] <angel> thanks pgan
[09:49] <pgan> angel: With the alternate CD you may be able to
[09:49] <dgjones> !ru | Xan123
[09:49] <ubotu> Xan123: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:50] <pgan> !ru | Xan123
[09:50] <nemo_> if i am running gutsy (64) can i play WOW if i only have the 32bit dvd?
[09:50] <labinnsw> I am having a problem that I am hoping someone can help me with. On Gutsy, I cannot print to PDF. Here is a link to the error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46925/plain/
[09:50] <K_Dallas> Any help with disabling XDMCP ? Thsnks
[09:51] <Baroquen> yay!  my intel ICH9 is working with digital out :)
[09:51] <angel> timsandtoms| afaik they are both GUIs for your linux. they basically do the same thing but  you might have a preference over the other. i had to install both and log in to "Feel them out". gnome seemed to do it for me
[09:52] <cheetahfr> hi, i wonder if someone could help me out. i have an offline ubuntu machine, i've just downloaded xmms to play mp3, how do i install it?
[09:52] <cheetahfr> i've unzipped teh tar file..
[09:52] <Marcusklaas> dude
[09:52] <Marcusklaas> just go to terminal
[09:52] <cheetahfr> yep..
[09:52] <Marcusklaas> apt-get install <teh_programz j00 ned>
[09:52] <cheetahfr> i have, it says "couldn't find package xmms"
[09:52] <angel> cheetahfr| ubuntu with no internet is like corvette with no gas
[09:53] <cheetahfr> it's on the desktop, do i need to put it ina  specific folder?
[09:53] <Marcusklaas> LOL ANGEL TRU.DAT
[09:53] <cheetahfr> yeah. i'm just setting her up, angel. i want to use her as my internet computer as soon as i know how to operate her
[09:53] <Marcusklaas> omg cheetahfr .. you'll need internet to install those packages .. it's a pain 2 do it urslef
[09:53] <Marcusklaas> get her hooked onto the internet right now dawg ..
[09:53] <cheetahfr> but do you see what i'm saying? it's not on the internet. does that mean i can't install it?
[09:53] <Marcusklaas> yea
[09:53] <dgjones> cheetahfr, where did you download it from, if it was from http://packages.ubuntu.com/, you should be able to right click on the file and it'll give you an option to install
[09:53] <cheetahfr> if i do, i lose you guys. plus: ubuntu doesn't recognise my wireless hardware
[09:54] <kitofhawaii> angel: /:) explain that to my lab boxes...:-P
[09:54] <timsandtoms> angel: thanks. So all this "Designed for KDE" and such that I see just basically means its designed to look coolest in KDE? :P
[09:54] <cheetahfr> dgjones. thanks. i'll check that website out.
[09:54] <Fethman> Hmm I need to recomplie my kernel with slab memory allocator instead of slub, since it's causing me problems with the suspend and my videocard (ati :() I'm thinking if there is already a kernel for gutsty complied with slab or If I do it manually how can I reinstall the drivers for my wlan card(intel)
[09:54] <angel> cheetahfr| there are 2 ways to install, apt-get and manual. i dunno if xmms is on the cd, try the dvd and use apt-get, try to stay away from manual stuff if you are a noob
[09:54] <Marcusklaas> Cheetahfr, there's an IRC client in Ubuntu: pidgin.
[09:54] <Baroquen> bye everyone...
[09:54] <dgjones> cheetahfr, if you search for xmms for whichever version of ubuntu you're using, at the bottom, there should be a single file you can download which included the necessary dependancies
[09:54] <ikonia> angel: manual ?
[09:55] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: thats not an irc client, irssi, BitchX x-chat are irc clients
[09:55] <Stevethepirate> Hi. I'm on gutsy.. looking [reading a guide] but i lack /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc.conf
[09:55] <Marcusklaas> im using pidgin ..
[09:55] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: pidgin just has an irc gatewa
[09:55] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: pidgin just has an irc gateway
[09:55] <angel> timsandtoms| pretty much, but you can use kde guis in gnome. for example, bittorrent sux ass so i use ktorrent(for the kde) on my gnome
[09:55] <Marcusklaas> that makes it a client
[09:55] <pgan> How can I change my console font?
[09:55] <Marcusklaas> LOL
[09:55] <cheetahfr> i'd love to use apt-get, but it's not an option. so, it's on the cd.. i'll check that.
[09:55] <Marcusklaas> r j00 seriuz pgan?
[09:56] <timsandtoms> angel: Thats actually EXACTLY why I asked :D ktorrent says its for KDE
[09:56] <Stevethepirate> !nice | Marcusklaas
[09:56] <ubotu> Marcusklaas: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:56] <angel> ikonia: my keyboard is broken
[09:56] <labinnsw> Ok, I guess not help with my PDF tonight
[09:56] <Stevethepirate> lol
[09:56] <ikonia> angel: really, what is the problem ?
[09:56] <Stevethepirate> clearly phailure is an option for the bot. :P
[09:56] <angel> timsandtoms|you can still use it on gnome, in fact, i recommend it
[09:56] <Marcusklaas> LOL steventhepirate
[09:56] <timsandtoms> ikonia: What are the advantages of an actual IRC client over Pidgin? This is really my first IRC room I've been in, I don't know anything about IRC really...
[09:57] <Marcusklaas> none
[09:57] <ikonia> timsandtoms: just more features in native irc clients
[09:57] <Marcusklaas> ikonia is just one of those oldskoolers
[09:57] <Stevethepirate> lul
[09:57] <ikonia> timsandtoms: depends how much you want to interact
[09:57] <Stevethepirate> !lol | Stevethepirate
[09:57] <timsandtoms> angel: :D Awesome, thanks. /g/ recommended it too as kinda linux version of utorrent, haha
[09:57] <angel> ikonia | it does not automatically correct my spelling based on the grammer i am using.
[09:57] <timsandtoms> ikonia: Coupla examples?
[09:57] <Marcusklaas> !lol > marcusklaas
[09:57] <Stevethepirate> !lol
[09:57] <ikonia> angel: please don't waste my time
[09:57] <ubotu> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[09:57] <angel> see, it is grammar not grammer
[09:57] <ikonia> !bootabuse >Marcusklaas
[09:57] <Stevethepirate> lol @ that
[09:58] <ikonia> !botabuse >Marcusklaas
[09:58] <ikonia> timsandtoms: for example if you are an operater, you can bind functions, that sort of thing
[09:58] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: where has the /etc/asound.conf moved to on my PX?
[09:58] <Stevethepirate> *PC
[09:58] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no idea
[09:58] <[n00b]Shadow> is there a ubuntu equal to debians dos2unix?
[09:58] <Stevethepirate> wine?
[09:58] <cheetahfr> so i've got the cd in there. how does apt-get find xmms on the cd?
[09:58] <Stevethepirate> unix2dos
[09:58] <Stevethepirate> = failing life
[09:58] <[n00b]Shadow> unix2dos? x/
[09:58] <cheetahfr> (i'm wondering why ubuntu doesn't automatically put the necessary codec's on for mp3's in the first place)
[09:58] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: add it as a repository in adept.
[09:58] <Marcusklaas> STEVE TAH_PAIRATE .. where iz j00 from?
[09:59] <angel> cheetahfr| it should have the cd as part of the repositories
[09:59] <ikonia> !offtopic >Marcusklaas
[09:59] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: please speak in english
[09:59] <cheetahfr> um, ok.
[09:59] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: its for licensing issues
[09:59] <kitofhawaii> dosbox works
[09:59] <[n00b]Shadow> ...
[09:59] <Stevethepirate> Marcusklaas: South Africa [ZAR]
[09:59] <timsandtoms> ikonia: Ah, ok. Any suggestions on which I should get if I do get one? I'm kinda fond of Pidgin and Windows Live messengers interface, similar would be great
[09:59] <kitofhawaii> oh duh...:)
[09:59] <cheetahfr> what's adept?
[09:59] <angel> so anyone put XBMC on ubuntu yet?
[09:59] <cheetahfr> sorry.
[09:59] <ikonia> timsandtoms: if you like the interface, stick with pidgin
[09:59] <[n00b]Shadow> dos2unix hammers out the unused windows text from files...
[09:59] <[n00b]Shadow> x/
[09:59] <Marcusklaas> angel: XBMC?
[09:59] <Stevethepirate> Just Pidgin on linux.. whats wrong with using it?
[10:00] <ikonia> [n00b]Shadow: not sure if that package still exists, check the package manager, or use sed
[10:00] <Stevethepirate> For IRC'ing its not -that- bad..
[10:00] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: its a fine gateway
[10:00] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: its a package manager
[10:00] <[n00b]Shadow> im not using ubuntu, asking for a friend lol :p
[10:00] <timsandtoms> Stevethepirate: Nothin, just if I ever did need another one, I'd wanna know what to get
[10:00] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: its all personal prefecnce
[10:00] <Marcusklaas> 1 thing i hate about pidgin: buddy list synchronization issues every tiem u start
[10:00] <cheetahfr> i can't find it in my list of programs..
[10:00] <ikonia> [n00b]Shadow: then get him to come in and ask, we don't support by proxy
[10:00] <angel> Marcusklaas| Xbox Media Center
[10:00] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: you mean he's behind a firewall or something?
[10:00] <Stevethepirate> and pidgin can't connect?
[10:01] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no, not at all, I didn't say anything about pidgin
[10:01] <Stevethepirate> timsandtoms: to be honest.. i use irssi since its easy to screen and simplistic
[10:01] <mimat86> ciao
[10:01] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: ah, soz.. getting rather confused..
[10:01] <ikonia> timsandtoms: its all personal preference, try them, see what you like
[10:01] <Stevethepirate> typing on a 50" plasma with a res of olnly 1280x1024 is fail.
[10:01] <mimat86> qualche italiano?
[10:01] <angel> how do i become and official ubuntu distributor?
[10:01] <timsandtoms> ikonia: ok, will do
[10:01] <Marcusklaas> lol angel?
[10:01] <Stevethepirate> have sex with mark shuttleworth
[10:01] <cheetahfr> what if there is no 'adept' program in the applications/system menus?
[10:02] <ikonia> angel: please stop wasting peoples time
[10:02] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: don't feed the troll
[10:02] <angel> hhmmmm, well i am straight but ok
[10:02] <cheetahfr> sorry to be a dumb cunt, good karma to you guys.
[10:02] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: he probably just wants to get > 2 CD's
[10:02] <mimat86> ci sn italiani??
[10:02] <kitofhawaii> [noob]Shadow: the ubuntu package is tofrodos and is available
[10:02] <ikonia> !ops
[10:02] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[10:02] <Marcusklaas> who teh_hell is mark shuttleworth?
[10:02] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: "Package Manager"
[10:02] <dgjones> !it | mimat86
[10:02] <ubotu> mimat86: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:02] <[n00b]Shadow> thanks kitofhawaii
[10:02] <Stevethepirate> Marcusklaas: lol.
[10:02] <mimat86> thanks
[10:02] <Marcusklaas> Stevethepirate, what?
[10:02] <cheetahfr> i have synaptic pakcage manager, i'll use that.
[10:03] <Stevethepirate> Marcusklaas: he's the dude paying for Ubuntu
[10:03] <Stevethepirate> A South African as well :P
[10:03] <elkbuntu> cheetahfr, please watch your language, swearing is not welcome in here
[10:03] <Marcusklaas> cheetahfr .. u half-assed .. ass .. GET UR ASS HOOKED UP TO TEH_INTERNET OR j0r ubuntu pc is worthlezz
[10:03] <gordonjcp> heh
[10:03] <angel> ikonia| how am i wasting people's time? there is a list of people you can request a free cd from. i am asking how do i put my name up there.
[10:03] <ikonia> Marcusklaas I've asked you o3 times to a.) speak in english b.) watch your language c.) stop going off topic
[10:03] <noobcoder> what is the easiest way to share an entire drive?
[10:03] <cheetahfr> marcusklaas, it will happen. i just want to play mp3's first. then i have to figure out how to get ubuntu to recognise my wireless device.
[10:04] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: install ssh-server
[10:04] <ikonia> angel: because I don't believe you because of your time wasting keyboard comments
[10:04] <gordonjcp> jeez, is it drunk american teenager hour in here or something?
[10:04] <noobcoder> I have ssh-server installed
[10:04] <ikonia> gordonjcp: it's being delt with
[10:04] <rere> hai ax-ax
[10:04] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: then they can scp stuff off oyu.
[10:04] <Stevethepirate> *you
[10:04] <noobcoder> I am setting up a movie server
[10:04] <Stevethepirate> or use WinSCP
[10:04] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: sound #illegal
[10:04] <drcode> hi all
[10:04] <gordonjcp> ikonia: it's always September...
[10:04] <angel> ikonia| oh, sorry about that. it was a bad joke. i'll be good
[10:04] <noobcoder> all my data is on the /media dive
[10:04] <drcode> how I can install ubuntu from Disk On Key?
[10:04] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: ftp probably easier..
[10:04] <Marcusklaas> Stevethepirate, is it public how much Mark Shuttleworth is paying to Ubuntu project?
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> Yes.
[10:05] <cheetahfr> there is no option to add a repository in the synaptic package manager...
[10:05] <ikonia> !offtopic >Marcusklaas
[10:05] <Marcusklaas> How muhc!?
[10:05] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: read ubuntu.com
[10:05] <cheetahfr> should i just give up and bang my head against the wall?
[10:05] <Eric_C> hi is there a german ubuntu channel?
[10:05] <noobcoder> I want to be able to stream the data off the drive
[10:05] <ikonia> Eric_C: ubuntu-de
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> Eric_C: #ubuntu-da
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> *de
[10:05] <gordonjcp> !de | Eric_C
[10:05] <noobcoder> i have samba installed
[10:05] <angel> noobcoder| what are you going to use?
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> lol
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> yeah
[10:05] <Eric_C> thx ikonia
[10:05] <ubotu> Eric_C: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:05] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: its not -da
[10:05] <gordonjcp> heh
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: samba is fail.
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> well.
[10:05] <Marcusklaas> cheetahfr .. please just get ur ubuntu pc on teh_net and things will go 1000x easier
[10:05] <gordonjcp> Eric_C: do you know what the channel is called now?
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> I must set it up.
[10:05] <angel> noobcoder| wait, is the streaming going to handled by the client or the server?
[10:05] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: thats why i *de'ed
[10:05] <gordonjcp> !en | Marcusklaas
[10:05] <ubotu> Marcusklaas: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:06] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: I saw
[10:06] <Stevethepirate> ah
[10:06] <Stevethepirate> lag is fail.
[10:06] <noobcoder> samba works but asks for a pw when I have rw
[10:06] <cheetahfr> but i can't marcus. it doesn't recognise my wireless. please understand this.
[10:06] <cheetahfr> i just want to play mp3's, is it really this hard just to get xmms to work?
[10:06] <Marcusklaas> cheetahfr .. aah ... k dat sux
[10:06] <nixNewb> hey yall
[10:06] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: please speek english
[10:06] <kitofhawaii> cheetahfr: you don't have a hardwire available?
[10:06] <noobcoder> I am streaming to my xbox
[10:06] <Marcusklaas> sorry ikonia
[10:06] <cheetahfr> not at present.
[10:06] <nixNewb> if i have version 7.04, how can i upgrade to 7.10 without burning a new cd?
[10:06] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: hmmm. seriously..
[10:06] <nixNewb> apt-get upgrade?
[10:06] <ikonia> nixNewb: you can use the upgrade process on the internet
[10:06] <ikonia> !upgrade >nixNewb
[10:06] <Stevethepirate> !upgrade | nixNewb
[10:06] <ubotu> nixNewb: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:07] <Marcusklaas> cheetahfr .. this is trouble .. if j00 dont have internet j00 kant instal ne software or drivers .. OR UPDATES
[10:07] <ikonia> !goodbotuse >Stevethepirate
[10:07] <ikonia> Marcusklaas: last request "Speak in English"
[10:07] <angel> cheetahfr| hook it up to the net, then sudo apt-get update, then run an mp3, ubuntu will ask you if you want to install the codecs needed
[10:07] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: how are you trying to send the video?
[10:07] <cheetahfr> yes, i will get the internet. in time.
[10:07] <noobcoder> smb
[10:07] <angel> cheetahfr| it is the easiest way
[10:07] <nixNewb> sudo !upgrade ?
[10:07] <cheetahfr> it does not recognise my wireless, so i figured i'd play a few tunes as this computer doesn't haqve a soundcard...
[10:07] <Stevethepirate> noobcoder: no I'm saying..
[10:08] <Stevethepirate> what type of files does ur XBox allow
[10:08] <cheetahfr> if i take the wireless otu of this computer, i lose my ability to use the internet, and ubuntu doesn't recognise my device
[10:08] <noobcoder> avi,xvid
[10:08] <Stevethepirate> like, does it allow "windows network searching" as such
[10:08] <Stevethepirate> can you use ftp's off it?
[10:08] <nixNewb> thanks ubotu
[10:08] <kitofhawaii> cheetahfr: then i'd say uhm...install rpm off the ubuntu cd, and walk over the xmms redhat packag to your box over sneakernet :)
[10:08] <noobcoder> humm Ill have to check
[10:08] <nixNewb> looks like what i need, appreciate it
[10:08] <Stevethepirate> !xbox > steven_office
[10:08] <sasha_> hi
[10:08] <sasha_> LD
[10:08] <Stevethepirate> oops
[10:08] <sasha_> :D
[10:08] <ikonia> kitofhawaii: please don't recommend things like that
[10:08] <Stevethepirate> !xbox > Stevethepirate
[10:08] <pgan> How can I change my console fonts?
[10:09] <cheetahfr> alright. i'll just give up and play audio cd's.
[10:09] <angel> Stevethepirate| xbox? he said he had an xbox?
[10:09] <m0u5e> anyone know why it'll take 2-12 weeks to ship something for 14 US dollars from ubuntu.com? :/
[10:09] <rere> halo adam, boleh kenalan?
[10:09] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: you trying to get mp3 working?
[10:09] <cheetahfr> incidently, is it easy to get ubuntu to recognise a usb wireless device?
[10:09] <pgan> !justask > sasha
[10:09] <Invert314> right now emeral loads by default when i start compiz fusion....how do i switch it to gtk-window-decorator?
[10:09] <Stevethepirate> !english > rere
[10:09] <sasha_> can someone help me with Maximize/Minimize buttons
[10:09] <cheetahfr> yes, steve. but i don't have internet available.
[10:09] <sasha_> :S
[10:09] <cheetahfr> i have xmms downloaded as a tar and sitting on the ubuntu desktop.
[10:09] <sasha_> i cant move windows :S
[10:09] <kitofhawaii> ikonia: if he insists on it being offline, there's no other real easier choice...
[10:09] <cheetahfr> apparently it's too hard to install without the internet.
[10:09] <ikonia> kitofhawaii: then he's not able to get support
[10:09] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: well, its not xmms you really need.
[10:10] <ikonia> cheetahfr: the bottom line is the codecs needed are online only
[10:10] <cheetahfr> i can't go online, it does not recognise my wireless card.
[10:10] <Suva> XMMS is ugly
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> look on the internet for a guide on what codecs are needed.
[10:10] <cheetahfr> i can download anything from here and transfer it to the ubuntu computer.
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> and then get those packages.
[10:10] <nemo_> how can i run a 32bit linux app on my 64bit Ubuntu distro? compatibility mode?
[10:10] <cheetahfr> right.
[10:10] <drcode> any idea , how I can install ubuntu from DiskOnKey ?
[10:10] <m0u5e> if canonical wants us to purchase things from their store, they should make it cheaper :/
[10:10] <ikonia> cheetahfr: ok, so get the correct packages online and install them from a cd
[10:10] <ikonia> !offtopic >m0u5e
[10:10] <dgjones> cheetahfr, have you looked at the packages.ubuntu.com website I suggested to you earlier?
[10:10] <Stevethepirate> nemo_: i think they may have backwards compatability.. like, default.
[10:11] <pgan> ikonia: he can get them from another computer and install them from a usb drive
[10:11] <ikonia> nemo_: you need to use something like a 32bit chroot
[10:11] <cheetahfr> dgjones, yeah i did. hold on one moment.
[10:11] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: thats nonese, 32bit libs are not backward compatability
[10:11] <sasha_> can someone help me
[10:11] <ikonia> pgan: thats very true
[10:11] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: A -lot- of apps
[10:11] <ikonia> sasha_: possibly, what is the problem
[10:11] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: none
[10:11] <sasha_> i dont have Maximize/Minimize buttons
[10:12] <cheetahfr> http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/sound/xmms. it's confusing. what do i download?
[10:12] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: I've seen it being done.
[10:12] <sasha_> i cant move windows
[10:12] <sasha_> :D
[10:12] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no 32bit apps will run on a 64 bit base system
[10:12] <Stevethepirate> Not natively.
[10:12] <ikonia> sasha_: you can't move windows ?
[10:12] <angel> cheetahfr| visit http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html and read the part that says Installing a package manually
[10:12] <sasha_> i was install compiz
[10:12] <sasha_> nope
[10:12] <Stevethepirate> But sandboxed, easily.
[10:12] <cheetahfr> sweet, thanks angel.
[10:12] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: yes, so thats not compatabile, so please don't offer fantasy solutions to people
[10:12] <cheetahfr> a package is a tar zip, is it?
[10:12] <angel> next!
[10:12] <cheetahfr> just to confirm.
[10:12] <nemo_> Stevethepirate: i am trying to use Cedega to run WOW, on my gutsy(x64) system
[10:12] <ikonia> sasha_: can you expand a bit on that
[10:12] <cheetahfr> okay, i'm gone. thanks for your help anyway.
[10:13] <angel> cheetahfr| afaik dude
[10:13] <pgan> sasha: I don't know compits, but have you tried to reboot?
[10:13] <angel> cheetahfr| i did not mean for you to leave dude
[10:13] <sasha_> my windows always Maximize
[10:13] <sasha_> i cant Minimize them
[10:13] <angel> cheetahfr| i just meant i'm good help for a noob
[10:13] <cheetahfr> no, that's cool. i'll try to install manually.
[10:13] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: A family of computer models is said to be compatible if certain software that runs on one of the models can also be run on all other models of the family. The computer models may differ in performance, reliability or some other characteristic. Any difference may affect the outcome of the running of the software.
[10:13] <Stevethepirate> nemo_: and?
[10:14] <dgjones> cheetahfr, go down to the bottom of the screen, and its got a section for download xmms, if you're using the i386 version, click on that and chose a local download location, save the file to cd or usb stick, transfer it to the machine you want it on and then you can install it there
[10:14] <pgan> sasha: have you tried to reboot?
[10:14] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: look, 32bit binaries will not run on a 64 bit OS without the 32bit libraries being installed.
[10:14] <nemo_> sasha: log out then back in
[10:14] <sasha_> i was looking compiz effects
[10:14] <angel> nemo: gutsy 64x is buggy and wack, not all apps are 64x friendly even with the 32bit librarry
[10:14] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: hmm.. kk, /me gives in.
[10:14] <sasha_> and i dont know how to back my Maximize/Minimize buttons
[10:14] <cheetahfr> dgjones. gotcha. now when you say 'install it from there', what does that mean? is it as simple as double clikcing something?
[10:14] <ikonia> angel: what are you talking about ?
[10:14] <dgjones> cheetahfr, when you've got it on the machine you want, right click on the file and there's be an option to install using gdebi manager
[10:14] <Stevethepirate> sasha_: maybe try #cedega or even #wine if we can't help.
[10:15] <cheetahfr> sweet, i'll try that. thanks dgjones.
[10:15] <sasha_> i don't have problems with emus
[10:15] <dgjones> cheetahfr, you're welcome
[10:15] <nemo_> Stevethepirate: when i read the help dos for install it says for a 64bit system i need "32-bit compatibility environment must be available"
[10:15] <sasha_> i have problems with kde windows :)
[10:15] <Stevethepirate> Then clearly. 32-bit compatbility must be available.
[10:15] <ikonia> nemo_: thats correct, basiclly you need to install an almost complete 32bit os into a seperate directory on your disk (simple summary)
[10:16] <Stevethepirate> Which is like. Fail.
[10:16] <imyousuf> has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu? or has anyone installed any USB products with product id = 0610?
[10:16] <Stevethepirate> In essence.
[10:16] <angel> ikonia| i had a 64bit gutsy but found that some apps just could not be installed even with the the library, is there ANY performance difference between 32 and 64bit?
[10:16] <sasha_> someone know hot to setup Maximize/Minimize toolbar ?
[10:16] <ikonia> angel: your statment does not warrent "64 bit is buggy"
[10:16] <ikonia> angel: there can be performance gains, in certain areas
[10:16] <Stevethepirate> I would not guess a huge difference in average PC use..
[10:16] <Stevethepirate> like, browsing, word processing, etc.
[10:16] <nemo_> ikonia so i boot into linux launch linux then luanch wine to launch wow... wow
[10:17] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: totally
[10:17] <ikonia> nemo_: wine is not available on 64 bit platforms as I recall
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> but maybe for GIMP'ing.. or video editing or number crunching.. you'd notice the difference.
[10:17] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: it is.
[10:18] <Stevethepirate> wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[10:18] <ikonia> lets see
[10:18] <angel> ikonia| yes you are right. my spesific issue was ubuntu trying to update my 32bit vmware-server to 64bit.  it kept reinstalling the 32bit version
[10:18] <kitofhawaii> wine's available on 64-bit but it only supports 32-bit windows apps
[10:18] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: have you even read that - it is a 32bit package !
[10:18] <Stevethepirate> but yeah, you will need 32 bit lib's as well.
[10:18] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: yes.
[10:18] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: so thats "not available on a 64 bit platform !"
[10:19] <Stevethepirate> huh?
[10:19] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: stoping missleading people
[10:19] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: wine is not available on a 64 bit platform
[10:19] <kitofhawaii> angel: well definitely 64-bit vmware'd be important on 64-bit machines (VT technology you'll see a huge difference) i'd be upset too if it only installed 32-bit :)
[10:19] <tere> hello
[10:20] <tere> hello
[10:20] <angel> ikonia| wine IS available on a 64bit, but maybe it is only 32bit
[10:20] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: its a flipping way, by the makers of the program in question, for people to install 32bit wine on a a 64-bit system
[10:20] <ikonia> angel: then that is a 64bit platform
[10:20] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: 32bit is no a 64 bit platform
[10:20] <Stevethepirate> I know.
[10:20] <cheetahfr> dgjones: right click GD package installer.... ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib1.2
[10:20] <Stevethepirate> But the program he wants to wine is 32 bit
[10:20] <Stevethepirate> --> WoW
[10:21] <ikonia> Stevethepirate yes I know, which is why I said wine is not available on a 64bit platform
[10:21] <Stevethepirate> so he needs a way to wine 32bit programs in a 64 bit system
[10:21] <ikonia> and you said "it is"
[10:21] <Stevethepirate> namely.
[10:21] <nemo_> ikonia: do you think there is a noticible performance differiance between X64 and X86 that warents the extra hassle
[10:21] <ikonia> nemo_: depends what your doing
[10:21] <Stevethepirate> wine64bit
[10:21] <Stevethepirate> g0g0g0g0
[10:21] <ikonia> its not 64bit !
[10:21] <cheetahfr> anyone know how to get around that error?
[10:21] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to make the mplayer plugin not blue in epiphany?  i set every mplayer config to vo x11
[10:21] <angel> ay yay yay..people! you can install some 32bit apps on a 64bit platform running a 64bit OS. there is no 64bit wine! but you can get 32bit wine to work under 64bit!
[10:21] <hangthedj> fullscreen is fine
[10:22] <Stevethepirate> that means you need to get the packags it says are dependancies
[10:22] <nemo_> i'm tired of xp so i want to use ubuntu/program/play games (wow)
[10:22]  * AmL thinks ikonia and Stevethepirate should have their lovers quarrel elsewhere
[10:22] <angel> and stop getting ikonia mad!
[10:22] <AmL> =)
[10:22] <ikonia> AmL: agreed
[10:22]  * Stevethepirate thinks AmL should DIAF.
[10:22] <ikonia> nemo_: the best gaming platform will be windows
[10:22] <ikonia> DIAF ?
[10:23] <Stevethepirate> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIAF
[10:23] <brobostigon> hi
[10:23]  * Stevethepirate thinks is the right address.
[10:23] <bullgard4> [Gutsy] Gnome panel menu item 'Applications'> 'Utilities' > Is there a menu item 'Take Screenshot', or what is the proper English name of it?
[10:23] <Stevethepirate> !hi > brobostigon
[10:23] <tere> I spain ayuda
[10:23] <angel> ikonia: die in a fire?
[10:23] <hangthedj> angel, i think there is an option in 64b bios to set 32b compatibilaty mode.
[10:23] <cheetahfr> it doesn't specify the dependencies... arrgh
[10:23] <dgjones> cheetahfr, use the same packages search page to look for that package and do the same thing with it, install that first and then the xmms
[10:23] <elkbuntu> !es | tere
[10:23] <ubotu> tere: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:23] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: don't be offensive to people asking them to die
[10:23] <cheetahfr> oh. libglib1.2 is the package right?
[10:23] <angel> hangthedj| maybe but it defeats the purpose of going 64bit anyways.
[10:23] <elkbuntu> Stevethepirate, please stop the gibberish and insults
[10:24] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: It will be the best gaming platform until a non propriety platform comes out...
[10:24] <ikonia> cheetahfr: thats a library
[10:24] <Stevethepirate> elkbuntu: soz.
[10:24] <Stevethepirate> :P
[10:24] <riaal> does the cache read from the RAM memory?
[10:24] <cheetahfr> so that's the library i need to install, got it.
[10:24] <Stevethepirate> namely, until you get openDX or something.
[10:24] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: Applications -> Accessories -> Take Screenshot (prtsc button works the same)
[10:24] <ikonia> cheetahfr: that libary is part oa package though
[10:24] <Ziroday> how do I get SCIM to be the default input method for all apps?
[10:24] <ikonia> cheetahfr: "of a package" that should read
[10:24] <cheetahfr> what's the oa package? does that change anything?
[10:24] <ikonia> cheetahfr: the package is glib
[10:25] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: Thank you very much.
[10:25] <cheetahfr> the package is glib. oh ok. so lib (library) glib
[10:25] <aladinsane> Im trying to install the Geany code editor from the synaptic package manager, but it tells me "Warning You are about to install software that can't be authenticated! This can hurt your system...." and so on.
[10:25] <aladinsane> How should i deal with this?
[10:25] <angel> Stevethepirate| the only reason why windoze is better at games is because of the money, you can't have that kind of support on HW and SW for free...for now at least
[10:25] <kitofhawaii> bullgard4: alt-prtsc will capture just the window (also useful if you need it)
[10:25] <no0tic> aladinsane, did you add unofficial repositories?
[10:25] <Stevethepirate> angel: Um, UT2003 was released on linux and windoz at the same time?
[10:25] <ikonia> aladinsane: it means the key for the repo your downloading is not available, so its "unauthenticated"
[10:25] <Stevethepirate> For example.
[10:25] <cheetahfr> yeah. how is it this kind of support is free? what do you guys get out of it?
[10:25] <ikonia> aladinsane: is it an ubuntu repo,
[10:26] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: this is ubuntu support
[10:26] <imyousuf> has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu? or has anyone installed any USB products with product id = 0610?
[10:26] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: God loves us.
[10:26] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: not gaming platform debate
[10:26] <cheetahfr> besides the satisfaction of helping out your fellow human beings
[10:26] <mosno> cheetahfr: we feed on the newbs
[10:26] <mosno> mmm newb
[10:26] <brobostigon> i just did an upgrade(sudo apt-get upgrade) there was apackage i did not recognise, it was mono, what is it??
[10:26] <bullgard4> kitofhawaii: You are most helpful. Thank you.
[10:26] <tere> NECESITO UN CHAT DE ESPAÑOL
[10:26] <angel> Stevethepirate| dude, that is one game. i am talking about as an overall system...ok ok, yeah not a gaming debate. let's not get offtopic
[10:26] <cheetahfr> HAha.
[10:26] <dgjones> !es | tere
[10:26] <ubotu> tere: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:26] <tere> X FAVOR AYUDA
[10:26] <Stevethepirate> ikonia: Dude. If he wants to ask about it, let him ask.. Its not -really- irritating the world.
[10:26] <dav1> hi, ive just pressed crtl + alt+ f1 - how do i get back to the gui?
[10:27] <no0tic> tere, #ubuntu-es y #ubuntu-al
[10:27] <angel> tere| que necesitas?
[10:27] <ikonia> brobostigon: mono i the open version of .net
[10:27] <cheetahfr> alright libglib, let's do it baby. back in a sec.
[10:27] <kitofhawaii> dav1: ctrl + alt+ f7
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> dawl: press Ctrl-Left.
[10:27] <tere> UN CHAT D ESPAÑOL
[10:27] <ikonia> Stevethepirate: no - this is ubuntu support, ubuntu-offtopic for none support related questions
[10:27] <hangthedj> dav1, ctrl+alt+f7
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> *Alt-Left
[10:27] <Stevethepirate> or that.
[10:27] <brobostigon> how is it possibly usefull, and where is it used??
[10:27] <ikonia> !es >tere
[10:27] <angel> tere| para chatiar de que?
[10:27] <no0tic> tere, #ubuntu-es (españa) y #ubuntu-al (latino-américa)
[10:28] <Stevethepirate> My GUI runs on Ctrl-Alt-f12 .. such luls
[10:28] <tere> EN ESPAÑOL
[10:28] <Kavok> Been trying to get the wireless on my Atheros AR5007EG working, I have the driver installed with ndiswrapper but it wont connect to my network
[10:28] <angel> tere| leiste lo que escribio no)tic?
[10:28] <hangthedj> Stevethepirate, why do you have so many shells?
[10:28] <gordonjcp> es
[10:28] <gordonjcp> !es
[10:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:28] <Stevethepirate> Anyone know a way, easily, to make my line out act as a line out?
[10:29] <nemo_> ikonia: what if i just want to play ww
[10:29] <gordonjcp> Stevethepirate: uhm, plug something in?
[10:29] <ikonia> nemo_: what about it ?
[10:29] <gordonjcp> Stevethepirate: what's it doing just now?
[10:29] <Suva> Stevethepirate: 5.1 sc with 3 outs?
[10:29] <Stevethepirate> Yeah, i have a 5.1 sound card..
[10:29] <aladinsane> no0tic, ikonia:
[10:29] <aladinsane> I only have archive.canonical.com/ubuntu, getautomatix.com, medibuntu.org and WineHQ repositories under Third-party Software.
[10:29] <aladinsane> If there's a key missing how do i find out and how do i fix it?
[10:29] <Stevethepirate> a dedicated sub and 2 speakers
[10:29] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Run the alsamixer and check the switches
[10:29] <ikonia> aladinsane automatrix !
[10:29] <Stevethepirate> so 2 speakers in Headhpone out..
[10:29] <ikonia> !automatix | aladinsane
[10:29] <ubotu> aladinsane: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:29] <nemo_> ikonia: should i switch to an X86 distro?
[10:30] <owain> sorry to bother you  but what's the linux equivalent of ipconfig?
[10:30] <ikonia> nemo_: that seems a sensible approach
[10:30] <Stevethepirate> and I need a crossover for a sub that i'm plugging into line out.
[10:30] <ikonia> owain: ifconfig
[10:30] <Stevethepirate> owain: ifconfig
[10:30] <owain> thanks
[10:30] <angel> nemo_| switch!
[10:30] <Stevethepirate> Suva: no, i mean.. its plugged in.. but I need a separate EQ for it..
[10:30] <f_tyet> hi, there!... how can I configure my system to use only my off-board soundcard instead the on-board one?
[10:30] <owain> and having typed that I can finally see why my smb.conf won't work ;)
[10:30] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Uh?
[10:30] <nemo_> ikonia: is there a noticeable difference in things like compiz?
[10:30] <Stevethepirate> or at least a high pass filter for that channel alone.
[10:30] <casio1374633> ??
[10:30] <angel> Stevethepirate| that reminds me dude, how do i renew my ip address using ifconfig?
[10:30] <ikonia> nemo_: no
[10:31] <Stevethepirate> dhclient
[10:31] <Stevethepirate> @ angel
[10:31] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Doesn't sub have built in crossover?
[10:31] <nemo_> dam and i just got everything working
[10:31] <aladinsane> ikonia: ok so thats the culprit here? i dont know if i have installed anything with automatix, but if i have, what wopuld happen to those applications if removed automatix, with updates and so on?
[10:31] <ikonia> angel: ifconfig doesn't actually manage dhcp as it does in windows. Stevethepirate the priate has it correct its an extneral application (dhclent n this example) that deals with dhcp requests
[10:31] <cheetahfr> oh for fucks sake. now it says i have to get another library. "libgtk1.2".
[10:31] <Kavok> Can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[10:31] <tere> olaa
[10:31] <f_tyet> so... I just installed the last 7.10 Ubuntu...
[10:32] <ikonia> aladinsane: no idea, once automatix is on your system we can't support it without a clean install
[10:32] <cheetahfr> you'd think it could just list all the libraries i need instead of 1 by 1
[10:32] <Stevethepirate> Suva: No, its a 600W active sub thats normally plugged into a DSP or something, so that it manages the crossover.
[10:32] <kitofhawaii> angel: make sure you reference the right nic with dhclient...if you're running vmware you can screw up your default route and dns table
[10:32] <owain> you guys rock btw, linux is very frustrating for a n00b. I love working out how to use a command but if I can't remember what it is quickly it's suprisingly hard to find on google
[10:32] <Stevethepirate> cheetahfr: it basically tries to install, then when it hits the first missing dependancy, says "oops, we need that package" and halts.
[10:32] <kitofhawaii> angel: from experience :)
[10:32] <hangthedj> firefox shows blue with the mplayer plugin too
[10:32] <f_tyet> I'm having trouble 'cause I have 2 soundcards and no sound at all, actually... ;-)
[10:32] <owain> ie google <command> gets you there easily
[10:33] <tere> hola
[10:33] <owain> but google <what you want to do> gets many many answers not all helpful ;)
[10:33] <ikonia> !es | tere
[10:33] <ubotu> tere: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:33] <owain> anyways, thanks again
[10:33] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Ah, I am not sure if you even asked help. But probably your local hifi shop will help you out :P
[10:33] <owain> and hoorah for samba
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> f_tyet: type alsamixer in konsole. .and see if anything has a "M|M" next to it.. that means muted.
[10:33] <angel> jesus was here!?
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> Suva: no.
[10:33] <Stevethepirate> Listen.
[10:34] <angel> cheetahfr| dude, installing is not noob level. it is way apt-get was made.
[10:34] <aladinsane> ikonia: that sounds serious, i'll remove it pronto. but about this Geany and not authenticated bla bla bla, i think that might be some other issue, as it should be located in one of the normal repos, so how do i find out if i have the right keys for my repos?
[10:34] <Stevethepirate> I need to run a software digital signal processor. So that I can adjust the signal outputs to all outputs independently.
[10:34] <dav2> hi, I've presed crtl alt f1, I tried ctrl alt f7 to take me back but I just get a cream screen the the cusor and nowing else, any ideas?
[10:34] <Stevethepirate> You may have crashed X..
[10:34] <ikonia> aladinsane with out a clean install on your system, we can't support you
[10:34] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Something like a Jack-Rack? :P
[10:34] <Stevethepirate> press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> Suva: no.
[10:35] <ikonia> aladinsane: you'll need to re-install if you want support from the ubuntu community
[10:35] <Stevethepirate> Do you know what a graphics equalizer is?
[10:35] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Ofcourse
[10:35] <elkbuntu> angel, pleast stop calling everything 'noob'
[10:35] <f_tyet> Stevethepirate: hi, there.. about alsamixer, I have already tried it out... but I'm not sure AC'97 soundcard or Audigy one is trying to make any sound... got it? ;-)
[10:35] <tere> hello
[10:35] <tere> algun chico wuapo?
[10:35] <ikonia> !es | tere
[10:36] <kitofhawaii> yah apt-get's not a noob feature...it's just a part of debian, it's been there forever...just another (and very good) package handler
[10:36] <tere> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:36] <ubotu> tere: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> f_tyet: try " cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" see if any white noise comes out ...
[10:36] <kitofhawaii> *hates the term noob...
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> Suva: well, basically. I need a separate EQ for each of my outputs on my sound card.
[10:36] <Stevethepirate> kitofhawaii: /me too
[10:36] <f_tyet> Stevethepirate: hehe, I'll see right now...
[10:37] <Suva> Stevethepirate: So you need something like jack-rack with bunch of "Multiband EQ's" loaded? :P
[10:37] <deal_> I'm a proud bearer of the name Noob!
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> I have NFC what a jack rack
[10:37] <Stevethepirate> But that sounds like some hardware.
[10:37] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Are you on Linux at all? :)
[10:38] <Suva> Stevethepirate: http://jack-rack.sourceforge.net/
[10:38] <Stevethepirate> Suva: Let me check it out.
[10:38] <Suva> Stevethepirate: If you don't like to use Jack, then you probably have to achieve it some other way
[10:38] <f_tyet> Stevethepirate: so... nothing happened, though
[10:38] <cheetahfr> this is ridiculous. the libgtk1.2 needs a library now... i give up. this is fucked.
[10:39] <cheetahfr> thanks anyway guys.
[10:39] <ikonia> cheetahfr: there is no need for that language
[10:39] <gordonjcp> gtk1.2 ?
[10:39] <Suva> Stevethepirate: It's an LADSPA FX stack for Jack
[10:39] <kitofhawaii> deal_: us older guard prefer the term ID:10t...shorthand for "pointed the client to the help page" :)
[10:39] <ikonia> cheetahfr: you have been aked 2 times
[10:39] <cheetahfr> oh. sorry.
[10:39] <gordonjcp> what on earth are you installing?
[10:39] <cheetahfr> xmms gordon.
[10:39] <cheetahfr> xmms.
[10:39] <gordonjcp> cheetahfr: ah
[10:39] <brobostigon> bmp
[10:39] <gordonjcp> yeah, beep media player
[10:39] <cheetahfr> never mind. seeyaz.
[10:39] <Stevethepirate> Suva: lol @ the EULA for it : "I would ask that you do not use this program to make music that is for God, Jesus or Religion (eg, hymns, mantras, etc.) "
[10:40] <brobostigon> bmp is very good, similer to xmms, i like both,
[10:40] <Suva> Stevethepirate: This is a parody of ZynAddSubFX EULA :P
[10:40] <Stevethepirate> lol
[10:40] <Stevethepirate> Suva: so basically its a GUI for EQ'ing each input and output?
[10:41] <Stevethepirate> If this works.. My sound system will be complete :P
[10:41] <Stevethepirate> 12.3 sound system... ftw.
[10:41] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Well, you need to run JACK
[10:41] <Stevethepirate> 3 sound cards.. and its done :P
[10:41]  * Stevethepirate adds up the power.
[10:41] <Stevethepirate> 3kW
[10:41] <Suva> Stevethepirate: And it's a gui for adding arbitrary effects on arbitrary sound paths
[10:41] <f_tyet> Stevethepirate: actually, it suposed to make any sound... I chenged the output plug between the two soundcards, but I realized neither devices are playing anything
[10:42] <kitofhawaii> Stevethepirate: 12.3? i don't even think i've owned that many speakers in my life
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> Suva: so it'll work with amarok for example?
[10:42] <Suva> Stevethepirate: You can also add compressors, limiters, flangers, reverbs, distortions, synthesis, etc.
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> kitofhawaii: 5.1 + 5.1 + 2.1
[10:42] <Suva> Stevethepirate: If amarok supports jack then yes
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> Suva: I just need a high pass filter
[10:42] <Stevethepirate> Suva: howto check if it does?
[10:43] <Suva> Check the output driver
[10:43] <Kavok> Can anyone help me with my wireless? I've followed all the instructions I could find on the forum
[10:43] <Suva> Can you change it from ALSA to jack
[10:43] <Kavok> it just wont connect to my router
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> hmm
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> Kavok: whats the problem?
[10:43] <kitofhawaii> Stevethepirate: what're you setting up a distributed sound system?
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> hmm
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> kitofhawaii: no, just for my room :P
[10:43] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Jack is also RT stuff, you need -rt kernel for it to work right
[10:43] <aantn> !rss
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <Kavok> I have a Atheros AR5007EG
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> I admit its overkill
[10:43] <Kavok> I can't connect to my router
[10:43] <Stevethepirate> but occassionaly i DJ
[10:44] <Suva> Stevethepirate: http://jackaudio.org/ <-- Please read this
[10:44] <Stevethepirate> and having to adjust EQ's every few secs is pain..
[10:44] <Kavok> I've used ndiswrapper with the windows drivers and dmesg shows no errors but i still can't connect
[10:44] <Stevethepirate> Suva: yeah, its loading.
[10:44] <Suva> Stevethepirate: In that case you might be easyer off using amarok plugin
[10:44] <kitofhawaii> Stevethepirate: o.O what're you making your own IMAX!?
[10:44] <f_tyet> you know what, I'm kindda missing the "alsaconf" command over the ubuntu... how can we configure the sound device over the Ubuntu 7.10? does anyone know it?
[10:44] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: what type of encryption are you using on your router?
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> Suva: do any amarok plugins allow separate EQ's for each output [line out and headphone out]?
[10:45] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Surely an owner of IMAX cinema has enough money to pay poor programmer like Suva some money to develop a solution :)
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> Suva: I have no IMAX.
[10:45] <Stevethepirate> I have 58" plasma though :P
[10:45] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: I turned encryption off
[10:45] <nemo_> what is the point of having a 64bit os?
[10:45] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Surely an owner of 58" plasma has enough money to pay poor programmer like Suva some money to develop a solution :)
[10:46] <Kavok> I can 'see' the network
[10:46] <Kavok> It has a strong signal
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> nemo_: so you can put a "64-bit" sticker on ur PC :P
[10:46] <Kavok> I just can't 'connect'
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> Suva: nah...
[10:46] <mavi-> i found a 52" plasma in a junk-yard-thingie
[10:46] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Call me if you can't find decent solution and I can give you my prices :)
[10:46] <mavi-> was just the tuner that was busted
[10:46] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: in terminal, iwconfig and ifconfig, do they show your wlan adapter?
[10:46] <mavi-> so now i have a 52" svga-monitor =)
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> mavi same thing...
[10:46] <Stevethepirate> I got my 58"
[10:46] <mavi-> bought a new tuner for 10$
[10:46] <Suva> Stevethepirate: Developing amarok plugin like this shouldn't cost too much, 100 - 300 eur max
[10:47] <Stevethepirate> the PSU was screed
[10:47] <Stevethepirate> Suva: lol.
[10:47]  * Stevethepirate is poor South African :P
[10:47] <speps> hy guys ... can somebody tell me where i can find the open driver ati project site???THANK U!
[10:47] <Suva> (With 58" plasma screen)
[10:47] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: I think so? im not sure
[10:47] <Stevethepirate> Seriously.
[10:47] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: do you see either wlan1 or wlan0 in both?
[10:47] <Stevethepirate> It was like R2000 to repair it..
[10:48] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: wlan0 in both
[10:48] <K_Dallas> to fix my sdmcp problem, i logged in the safe mode and startx but it does not allow me to change much. cannot even go to admin -> services
[10:48] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: in the iwconfig output, under wlan0, does ESSID: show the essid of your router?
[10:48] <Suva> Stevethepirate: I still think you would be better off with HW filters
[10:49] <Kavok> kitofhawaii:ESSID: off/any
[10:49] <DarKnesS_WolF> where i can ask about the installer ? i have hardware and the driver not included with the system ... how can i add it ?
[10:49] <DarKnesS_WolF> RAID controlar driver
[10:49] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: Its my router now
[10:49] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: depends on when I check
[10:49] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: try "iwconfig wlan0 essid <youressid>" and then "dhclient wlan0"
[10:51] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: forgot to mention use sudo for those commands...
[10:51] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval ## <-- random number here
[10:51] <speps> hi guys ... can somebody tell me where i can find the open driver ati project site???THANK U!
[10:51] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: No DHCPOFFERS received, no working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[10:52] <no0tic> speps, dri.freedesktop.org, I think
[10:52] <imyousuf> has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu? or has anyone installed any USB products with product id = 0610?
[10:52] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: you might need to try a different ndis driver...which are you using? ndiswrapper can look like it's working even if it's having a problem
[10:52] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: I've used three different drivers
[10:53] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: I've used this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554531 and this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[10:53] <Kavok> as reference
[10:54] <Kavok> And like I said, I can see networks
[10:54] <Kavok> just not connect
[10:54] <luhhh> Ola Bom Dia Pessoal Ubuntu hehehe uhulll... alguem aki já manja pelo sistema em Wine ?
[10:54] <dgjones> !br | luhhh
[10:54] <ubotu> luhhh: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[10:56] <luhhh> Oh My God Thanks....
[10:56] <Kavok> Are there any other steps I can take to troubleshoot this
[10:57] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: does iwconfig wlan0 still show your essid, and are you receiving any packets at all?
[10:58] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: it changes back and fourth between off/any and my network
[10:58] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: every few seconds
[10:58] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: and confirm you match case with your router (essid's are case sensitive)?
[10:58] <Kavok> Yes I can
[10:59] <reckle5s> hey im a noob  i need help with the config of my g5 mouse
[10:59] <Ximal> g5 mouse ?
[10:59] <reckle5s> yea
[10:59] <corruptionoflulz> reckle5s: what do you need help configuring?
[10:59] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: ndiswrapper -l lists driver installed present right? i'm sorry just running down the list right now
[10:59] <reckle5s>  my back button doesnt work in fire fox
[10:59] <corruptionoflulz> ah, those.
[10:59] <corruptionoflulz> hang on while i dig up that guide
[11:00] <reckle5s> sweet thanks a bunch
[11:00] <corruptionoflulz> (i mapped my side buttons to switch workspaces)
[11:00] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: for me i had problems getting ndiswrapper and network-manager to work right together. i ultimately went to a kernel mode driver
[11:00] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: ndiswrapper shows my driver
[11:00] <Suva> NetworkManager doesn't like bcm43xx driver
[11:00] <Suva> For some reason
[11:00] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: along with the line about being present...? there should be two lines
[11:01] <Kavok> Well I also tried using wicd
[11:01] <Kavok> "net5211 : driver installed"
[11:01] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: ok it doesn't show "device present"
[11:01] <Kavok> "device" (168C:001C) present (alternative driver: ath_pci)
[11:01] <Kavok> was typing
[11:01] <kitofhawaii> ok
[11:01] <Kavok> lol
[11:01] <kitofhawaii> :)
[11:01] <niuq> hi i have problems connecting to a ftp server, how could i verify if my ftp client is working well?
[11:01] <niuq> i am using filezila
[11:01] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: did you blacklist the other driver?
[11:02] <Kavok> yes
[11:02] <niuq> i've tried with shell
[11:02] <niuq> ftp <ip address>
[11:02] <corruptionoflulz> reckle5s: this should be enough to get it working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[11:02] <Rev> heya ppl
[11:02] <Rev> if ever i see my sound peripheric in the device manager, that means that it works?
[11:03] <reckle5s> thanks corrupt
[11:03] <Rev> cause everything looks like it should work but i hear no sound o.O
[11:03] <reckle5s> much apricitated
[11:03] <corruptionoflulz> reckle5s: also, if you start typing my name, then hit tab, it will auto complete.
[11:04] <bubuntu> he
[11:04] <oxigen> hi, did anyone here tried to install Hardy 64bit yet?
[11:05] <niuq> how could i verify if my ftp client it's working?, i can't connect to a ftp server
[11:05] <imyousuf> has anybody installed EST-610U on Ubuntu? or has anyone installed any USB products with product id = 0610?
[11:05] <dgjones> oxigen, you're better asking in #ubuntu+1 for queries about Hardy, thats were any support is and they're more likely to be answer you
[11:06] <oxigen> dgjones, thanks
[11:06] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: honestly the "alternative driver" line and that it's wlan0 sound like it's running the kernel mode driver, and not the ndis driver
[11:06] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: well how do I make sure itsn ot
[11:06] <bubuntu> hey.. anyone know about huge fonts at login  & title bars... i cant fix it!
[11:07] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: rmmod ath_pci
[11:07] <bullgard4> exit
[11:07] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: it should only say device (####:####) present
[11:08] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: after that, ndiswrapper -l to confirm it's still there, then "rmmod ndiswrapper" "modprobe ndiswrapper" (sudo'ing of course) :)
[11:09] <reckle5s> corruptionoflulz: nice !!!!!!!! tab is totally 1337 now lol
[11:09] <corruptionoflulz> reckle5s: heh, np.. i do prefer using those side buttons for workspace switching though, i just use keyboard shourtcuts for back and such.. and have massive amounts of tabs open so don't go back much
[11:10] <Kavok> kitofhawaii: rmmod ath_pci = "module ath_pci does not exist in proc modules etc..
[11:10] <xeer> is a used 80gb ps3 worth $400US?
[11:10] <MukiDA> hmmm...
[11:11] <MukiDA> Given the lack of BA, I doubt it.
[11:11] <reckle5s> corruptionoflulz: as of right now in vmware they arent working at all
[11:11] <MukiDA> xeer : It comes down to it, are there any PS3 games/features worth four bills to you right now?
[11:12] <xeer> MukiDA: gh3, that's about it. a friend wants to sell it to me so he can pay rent. i think it's a little steep
[11:12] <MukiEX> Awww.
[11:12] <bubuntu> hey.. anyone can help me about huge fonts at login  & title bars... i cant fix it! ta...
[11:12] <MukiEX> Well, it's cheaper than eBay/Gamestop, I'd wager.
[11:13] <MukiEX> But the BC thing is a problem
[11:13] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: hmmn...something doesn't sound right. you did reboot after blacklisting...?
[11:13] <corruptionoflulz> bubuntu: search the forums a bit, i saw a thread around about that.
[11:13] <xeer> BC?
[11:14] <bubuntu> i found change dpi but this didn't get it
[11:14] <MukiEX> xeer: backwards compatibility
[11:15] <blargman> what package do i need for the kernel source? :s
[11:15] <kitofhawaii> Kavok: best i can do is direct you to the ndiswrapper troubleshooting page...it is much, much more thorough than i could be
[11:15] <kitofhawaii> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,troubleshooting/
[11:16] <blargman> Linux logan 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:16] <blargman> :s
[11:21] <xeer> oddly i'm starting to get errors saying my /tmp isn't large enough. currently it's 1MB and hasn't been modified. how can i enlarge this file?
[11:21] <Oli``> Is there any way to get program updates faster? Eg Firefox 2.0.0.11 has been out for a few days but it has only just made the repos. eg2: deluge-torrent is about 6 minor versions behind.
[11:22] <Suva> Oli``: wget; tar -xvzf; ./configure; make; make install
[11:22] <kitofhawaii> xeer: can you confirm you have write permissions to tmp?
[11:22] <xeer> kitofhawaii: yes, i can confirm
[11:23] <Oli``> Suva: bleurgh =P
[11:23] <Oli``> I was imagining another "bleeding-edge" repo I could add =)
[11:23] <xeer> kitofhawaii: seems everything wants to write to it now. firefox, cedega, etc..
[11:23] <xeer> firefox wanted to save a ~950mb file to the /tmp! it refused the download and i had to wget it
[11:23] <Suva> Oli``: You can't expect packagers releasing and propagating new packages few minutes later after every upstream release
[11:24] <Don64> Oli``: i use ubuntuzilla.
[11:24] <Suva> Oli``: Some software have their own repositories
[11:24] <Suva> Oli``: But for true bleeding edge you need svn :P
[11:25] <kitofhawaii> xeer: ouch...could you change your download manager in firefox to go elsewhere
[11:27] <Suva> Does the ubuntu install LVM by default?
[11:28] <Don64> Suva: check the synaptic manager too see
[11:30] <kitofhawaii> xeer: you can also try emptying your trash...and "sudo chmod /tmp/ 777" just to confirm
[11:30] <Suva> It appears it made some paritions
[11:30] <Suva> But they are not in partition table, so must be LVM :P
[11:32] <glassface> how can I install restricted codecs on gutsy.  can some one
[11:32] <glassface> past the link here.
[11:33] <fevel> glassface: you have to change the repositories
[11:33] <corruptionoflulz> !codecs | glassface
[11:33] <ubotu> glassface: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <fevel> and then just try to run the video with no codec and it will ask to install
[11:33] <Johnson> was there some update that terrible screwed up vnc viewer?
[11:33] <glassface> tnx corruptionufluz; thank u very much.
[11:34] <Johnson> half the time i cant even type in the address of the scree
[11:34] <Suva> Bleh, ubuntu doesn't use /etc/fstab for root AT ALL
[11:36] <Nooodle> hello
[11:36] <timwatson> hello Nooodle
[11:37] <Nooodle> Im haveing trouble installing Ubuntu on a PC
[11:37] <wols_> Suva: that's not true
[11:37] <wols_> Suva: but of course it also needs to reference it in menu.lst
[11:38] <Suva> wols_: Well, the sda parts are commented out in fstab
[11:38] <elkbuntu> Nooodle, trouble in what way?
[11:40] <Suva> wols_: So what does ubuntu use for setting up the system partitions
[11:41] <Suva> wols_: I only have one physical partition for files, but it is divided into several, somehow...
[11:42] <Suva> Oh well, I might have been mistaking, whatever
[11:42] <Nooodle> when I put the install disk in it does its thing then gives me a tan background with a mouse icon and the mouse will move and it stays that way for about 20 mins then screen goes black
[11:43] <wols_> Suva: run mount
[11:43] <wols_> if you only have one partition, ubunut only uses one
[11:43] <Frederick> folks which is the default path for java sdk in ubuntu?
[11:43] <Suva> wols_: I am not at the computer right now
[11:44] <Suva> wols_: And ubuntu apparently doesn't install ssh by default :P
[11:44] <wols_> ubuntu is a desktop
[11:45] <Suva> wols_: orly?
[11:45] <Nooodle> any ideas whats going on?
[11:46] <Nooodle> with my install?
[11:46] <wols_> Nooodle: check your xorg log
[11:46] <Suva> Nooodle: You have broken the CD maybe?
[11:46] <Nooodle> no
[11:46] <kitofhawaii> Suva: it's a desktop-customized version of debian...when i first installed pure debian way back when, i got nothing at all and had to apt-get everything to get it to be a server
[11:46] <wols_> also look for a .xsession-errors
[11:47] <Suva> I was using debian since yesterday
[11:47] <Nooodle> listen Im very new to this
[11:47] <Suva> I installed ubuntu, because I was tired of handconfing everything
[11:48] <rtb|laptop> problem: every so often (like right now!) my computer is paralyzed. I have the little activity monitor up on the menu bar, and during this it shows 100% CPU being allocated to IOWait
[11:48] <rtb|laptop> what causes this and how can I solve it?\
[11:49] <Suva> rtb|laptop: NetworkManager?
[11:49] <kondrix> how to disable prompting for login and pass upon connecting to Samba on Ubuntu from windows computer?
[11:49] <Suva> rtb|laptop: NetworkManager goes crazy sometimes when it can't connect to AP and starts eating cycles
[11:50] <kitofhawaii> yah i got that quite a bit with networkmanager, worse with wifi-radar
[11:50] <dorcarin> I have some clients server whom should I put permissions and groups that I can work with a usb memory but is not plugdev You.
[11:51] <rtb|laptop> I have a wired connection
[11:51] <rtb|laptop> I think it's swapping out like crazy
[11:53] <kitofhawaii> rtb|laptop: that'll happen yes...what're you running?
[11:54]  * Nooodle ahhh
[11:55] <dorcarin>  have some clients server whom should I put permissions and groups that I can work with a usb memory but is not plugdev You.
[11:56] <wols_> dorcarin: huh?
[11:57] <kitofhawaii> yah i'm a bit lost by that last one...
[11:58] <Ximal> hmm.. to setup a dedicated server or not to setup a server.. lawlz
[11:59] <mavi->  /q vol
[11:59] <kitofhawaii> Ximal: the new server's vmware...keep your servers portable :-)
[12:00] <Ximal> oh no m8
[12:00] <Ximal> i'm talking about ubuntu lamp server ;)
[12:00] <Ximal> without x..
[12:00] <Ximal> i aquired an old presario pentium at about 1 to 1.6 ghz ... a 30 gig hd etc..
[12:00] <Ximal> heck.. thing even has a zip drive on it .. lawl
[12:00] <wols_> kitofhawaii: vmware is passw. Xen and kvm
[12:00] <Suva> lamp servers suck
[12:01] <databits> hey good morning everyone
[12:01] <Suva> It's not enterprise at all
[12:01] <kitofhawaii> wols_: xen yes i could see...now that citrix has it we're looking at it at work
[12:01] <Ximal> then go buy a system on a rack suva and go corporate on your own m8
[12:01] <Ziggy> does the WineHQ repository do anything good to have under third-party software?
[12:02] <wols_> Ziggy: it has a latter version of wine sometimes and has sorta broken packages sometimes too
[12:02] <kitofhawaii> wols_: but i will say our esx servers run phenomenally, and we use vmware at our satellites without problems (just move the file :)
[12:02] <databits> ?
[12:02] <sarthor> Hi, i am using thunderbird on ubuntu gusty, i have download email from gmail, and have lost that hard disk, now computer installed now, how to get that old email again,
[12:02] <databits> hey can someone help me out with some dual display setups
[12:03] <databits> I am trying to get my tv and my laptop monitor to work together
[12:03] <wols_> !ask | databits
[12:03] <ubotu> databits: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <databits> I need some help getting an extended desktop workin
[12:03] <mikebeecham> What is the best remote desktop software I can get hold of for Linux?
[12:03] <wols_> !best
[12:03] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:03] <mikebeecham> I am using GRDesktop, but this is quite laggy
[12:03] <Ximal> u mean where u slide ur mouse to the other monitor databits ?
[12:04] <Ximal> like with windows / ati vid cards and dual display ?
[12:04] <databits> ya
[12:04] <DarthShrine> sarthor, You'll still be able to access it on your gmail account..
[12:04] <sarthor> Hi, i am using thunderbird on ubuntu gusty, i have download email from gmail, and have lost that hard disk, now computer installed now, how to get that old email again,
[12:04] <Ximal> hmm... you running 2 cards ? or 1 ?
[12:04] <mikebeecham> wols_: good point...I will rephrase:
[12:04] <databits> no I am running a laptop with a svideo out
[12:04] <sarthor> DarthShrine, i can download only new emails , not the email already download in the old computer.
[12:04] <databits> I know it can be done no probelm it it was working half assed before but for some reason now it isn't working
[12:04] <Ximal> oh... then u will only be able to run svideo or your laptop lcd's display.. no dual display...
[12:05] <mikebeecham> Could some people let me know what they use as remote desktop clients on Ubuntu...I am using grdesktop, but it can be quite laggy
[12:05] <DarthShrine> sarthor, I'm not sure if it's possible for POP access, but if you set up IMAP you'll probably be able to access the archive.
[12:05] <Ximal> not in ubuntu from my experience m8.. you might have a program in windows that supports it..
[12:05] <Ximal> try installing that program into wine..
[12:05] <erUSUL> DarthShrine: recently gmail added imap support
[12:05] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: i use vnc/tighvnc if i require full desktop access, or xterm if i only require certain apps
[12:05] <sarthor> DarthShrine, Can you please tell me a bit about Imap, and and also do gmail support it?
[12:05] <DarthShrine> erUSUL, Which is why I mentioned it ;)
[12:05] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: *tightvnc
[12:05] <Ximal> i used to use my ati dual display too... but it won't work properly all the time in ubuntu...
[12:05] <databits> windows supports what ?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> Ximal: that's because ATI is made of fail
[12:06] <databits> haha
[12:06] <Ximal> databits : hmm... try plugging in the svideo cord into the tv and laptop .... then turn off the laptop
[12:06] <sarthor> DarthShrine, i am not much familier to linux
[12:06] <Ximal> and reboot..
[12:06] <databits> I have a intel 910 graphics accelerator I think
[12:06] <Ximal> see if it brings it up on the tv when u reboot..
[12:06] <DarthShrine> sarthor, You're able to access the mailbox as it would appear on the web interface. Yes, it does support it. You'll be able to enable it from your Gmail account settings on the website. You'll have to set up Thunderbird for the account though.
[12:06] <mikebeecham> kitofhawaii : I need to be able to access my work desktop from home, so need full access to desktop, files and folders
[12:06] <databits> ya I am going to give that a shot I will brb
[12:06] <mikebeecham> kitofhawaii: at the moment grdesktop does the job, but it is laggy
[12:06] <databits> shit if I can get that shit runnin good I am going to be lovin the linux
[12:07] <Ximal> watch the language data...
[12:07] <Ximal> ;)
[12:07] <sarthor> DarthShrine, Ok. Let me try my brother, Thank you,
[12:07] <erUSUL> !language | databits
[12:07] <wols_> mikebeecham: freenx maybe
[12:07] <ubotu> databits: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:07] <DarthShrine> sarthor, Good luck.
[12:07] <databits> I would have kept it a long time ago but I need to have my dual display so I can watch my movies on my tv
[12:07] <tho1> mikebeecham run rdesktop from the command line
[12:07] <tho1> mikebeecham  if you want remote desktop that is
[12:07] <databits> grdesktop ?
[12:07] <Ximal> databits .... why not just get the crt display adapter to rca jack ?
[12:07] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: once you go over wire to home, it's going to be fairly laggy. tightvnc compresses things down for going long-haul better
[12:08] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: are you connecting through a vpn?
[12:08] <Ximal> you know... the one where u can hookup a external monitor... with double male conn switch and then the female monitor to rca output jack
[12:08] <abhi_> what command do i use to remove the sudo privilege from a user?
[12:08] <mikebeecham> kitofhawaii : no direct
[12:08] <Ximal> then instead of doing svideo you would be using both at same time ;)
[12:08] <mikebeecham> I use desktop to connect via Ip address to my works machine
[12:09] <mikebeecham> dont talk about security
[12:09] <mikebeecham> lol
[12:09] <tho1> kitofhawaii have you tried tightvnc through an ssh tunnel? I have been working on this and it seems quicker than without the tunnel
[12:09] <Ximal> abhi_ : system > administration > users
[12:09] <sarthor> DarthShrine, for pop i am using pop.gmail.com as incomming server, what will be incomming server for imap?
[12:09] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: this is to a windows box at your office or linux?
[12:10] <mikebeecham> windows
[12:10] <corruptionoflulz> so, i'm going to be overseas, and i want to access my desktop at home, but my IP periodically changes... any suggestions?
[12:10] <tho1> mikebeecham Install openssh on windows xp and run rdesktop through an ssh tunnel...much more secure
[12:10] <DarthShrine> sarthor, http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662&topic=12814
[12:10] <mikebeecham> I am running 7.10 at home..i work from home on e day a week, and I want to connect onto my works Windows machine, running XP pro
[12:10] <tho1> corruptionoflulz  no-ip.com
[12:10] <kitofhawaii> tho1: i haven't, i usually go through an ipsec vpn and it's pretty fair, though i usually have to change the polling settings on the host
[12:11] <wols_> mikebeecham: rdekstop
[12:11] <tho1> kitofhawaii I have a friend in Dublin Ireland accessing my server (Baffin Island...the arctic) and we have found the tunnel does seem to speed things up
[12:12] <mikebeecham> wols_ : thanks..will look at that
[12:12] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: well there's terminamikebeecham: have you tried the terminal server client, under applications -> internet?
[12:12] <corruptionoflulz> tho1: will that site still work even if my ip at home changes?
[12:12] <kitofhawaii> well that got stepped over :)
[12:12] <tho1> corruptionoflulz that is what the site is all about...check it out
[12:12] <corruptionoflulz> tho1: thanks
[12:12] <mikebeecham> kitofhawaii : no
[12:13] <kitofhawaii> tho1: i'll try it :) honestly most of the places i connect to use citrix, and that's always been phenomenal.
[12:13] <Ziggy> there's so many repositories out there when you search the web, it's hard as a beginner to understand which ones you actually do need, can anyone link to a site where just valid/supported/fantastic repos are located
[12:13] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: does your office have a cable modem?
[12:13] <mikebeecham> I'm in UK...we have adsl
[12:13] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: what's your roundtrip ping time to the office?
[12:13] <jrib> Ziggy: the official ubuntu.com ones
[12:14] <Ziroday> Ziggy: well you should only need the repos under System > Administration > Software Sources. But if you want more you usually get them for certain programs
[12:14] <mikebeecham> kitofhawaii: not sure...not checked really...I've been a long-time windows user, so thier remote desktop has been fine...now I'm on linux my first thought was how laggy it was
[12:14] <mikebeecham> will check terminal though
[12:14] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: i have both windows and linux here and they run the same
[12:15] <Sisco> WOOT
[12:15] <Sisco> ubuntu has torrent built in
[12:15] <Sisco> thats nice
[12:15] <Sisco> a torrent client
[12:16] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: but i use the terminal server client
[12:16] <tho1> kitofhawaii I think the terminal server client is just a frontend for rdesktop
[12:16] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: i would definitely recommend if you're connecting to your windows box to continue using RDP (either terminal server client or grdesktop)
[12:17] <galdar\linux> What do you say if I say VMware
[12:17] <galdar\linux> ?
[12:17] <rorysdad> has anyone heard of ubuntu certified pro training courses in australia?
[12:17] <kitofhawaii> tho1: i'm not so sure about that, it's been around a long time on linux
[12:17] <Ziggy> Ziroday, ok but medibuntu is good to have for example, i figured that out, and i suppose there are others, all i want is to find a plce where i can see them all, that is the good, valid, supported ones. so i dont need to go find them when i need "that" software
[12:17] <jrib> galdar\linux: what is your question?
[12:18] <Galdar\Linux> Well kinda need it to get windows runing through Ubuntu... but doesn't know why... jrib
[12:18] <Galdar\Linux> how*
[12:18] <Galdar\Linux> >_<
[12:18] <jrib> !vmware > Galdar\Linux (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:19] <Ziroday> Ziggy: I don't know of the top of my head a list but the two supported ones by the communitiy (i think) are seveas and medibuntu repos
[12:19] <Galdar\Linux> jrib: thanks, and btw cool bot :D
[12:20] <linduxed> ok i wanna use a java applet and firefox suggests installing "gcj web browser plugin (using IcedTea)"
[12:20] <linduxed> last time i used that it didnt work
[12:20] <linduxed> any ideas?
[12:20] <jrib> linduxed: are you on 64bit or 32bit?
[12:20] <linduxed> 64
[12:21] <jrib> linduxed: sun does not make a 64bit java plugin.  Is there a reason you do not use 32bit ubuntu?
[12:21] <linduxed> core 2 duo
[12:21] <sarthor> Hi, is it possible to bring get the emails from yahoo in thunderbird? using gusty
[12:21] <jrib> linduxed: you can still use 32bit ubuntu and you won't have these problems
[12:21] <riotkittie> that's a not reason :P
[12:21] <linduxed> performance loss?
[12:22] <tho1> sarthor not unless you subscribe to the pay version of yahoo
[12:22] <jrib> linduxed: I'd be interested to see if you notice one
[12:22] <matteo> hii
[12:22] <riotkittie> are you noticing an increased performance?
[12:22] <jrib> !flash64 > linduxed (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:22] <sarthor> tho1, Ohh. Ok.
[12:22] <SpookyET> hi
[12:22] <brobostigon> linuxed: as its a core duo, that essentially dual cpu, do you use an smp kernel??
[12:23] <jrib> linduxed: anyway, those are the complicated instructions you need to install 32bit firefox on 64bit ubuntu.  But the correct solution here is for you to use 32bit ubuntu and then things will "just work"
[12:23] <SpookyET> Is there any way to invoke the Ubuntu installer xorg configurator? I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with no pretty result.
[12:23] <jrib> SpookyET: what was the result?
[12:24] <SpookyET> Slow, very slow graphics
[12:24] <SpookyET> no hardware acceleration
[12:24] <SpookyET> wrong resolution.
[12:24] <linduxed> jrib: whats the gain in that case to use 64 bit
[12:24] <linduxed> ?
[12:24] <jrib> SpookyET: what video card do you have?
[12:24] <riotkittie> using which driver?
[12:24] <SpookyET> the ubuntu installer go tit right
[12:24] <SpookyET> I have ATI Radeo X700
[12:24] <jrib> linduxed: 64bit lets you use more than 4gb of ram
[12:25] <brobostigon> and bigger partitions
[12:25] <kitofhawaii> mikebeecham: another thing you can try is logmein.com
[12:25] <jrib> linduxed: my point is there is no real gain to using 64bit for the average desktop user
[12:25] <corruptionoflulz> tho1: odd, no-ip is refusing to create a config file =/
[12:25] <handsoffate_> hi everyone
[12:25] <riotkittie> bigger partitions? how  much bigger, brobostigon ?
[12:25] <jrib> !ati > SpookyET (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:26] <brobostigon> no idea??
[12:26] <JimmyDee> really, really big, kittie
[12:26] <SpookyET> jrib, they are installed
[12:26] <abhi_> Ximal: this is on server
[12:26] <SpookyET> they are not being used
[12:26] <tho1> corruptionoflulz the computer I have that software on is packed away at the moment...so I can be of only limited help. Did yo uinstall the software as root?
[12:26] <jrib> SpookyET: what driver did you select?
[12:26] <Ximal> huh
[12:26] <riotkittie> JimmyDee: o. that makes sense. thanks.
[12:26] <SpookyET> that one
[12:26] <handsoffate_> can anybody tell me how to open the console in ubuntu please?
[12:26] <corruptionoflulz> tho1: i used sudo apt-get if that is what you are referring to, yes
[12:26] <Ximal> what is on server abhi_ ?
[12:26] <jrib> !terminal | handsoffate_
[12:26] <ubotu> handsoffate_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:27] <handsoffate_> thank you
[12:27] <jrib> SpookyET: no, specificallly, what was the name you used when you selected it at the 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' screen?
[12:27] <SpookyET> fglrx
[12:28] <abhi_> Ximal: i want to remove sudo privilege for users on my Ubuntu Edgy server
[12:28] <tho1> corruptionoflulz I don't recall the software operation...do you need to create the conf file or is it already there?
[12:28] <tho1> corruptionoflulz I don't recall having to create it
[12:28] <Ximal> install x ? then run system > administration > users and groups
[12:28] <jrib> SpookyET: so what does the restricted driver manager claim at the moment?
[12:29] <Ximal> are you saying you are NOT there with the server abhi_ ?
[12:29] <kitofhawaii> abhi_: sudo permissions are assigned in the file /etc/sudoers
[12:29] <Ximal> thank you kitofhawaii :)
[12:29] <abhi_> kitofhawaii: ok how do i remove? what command? i just remove the names?
[12:29] <jrib> abhi_: remove the user from the admin group
[12:30] <abhi_> jrib: command please :)
[12:30] <abhi_> abhi_: usermod?
[12:30] <TimeTraveller> Anyone know where the firefox install folder is located ? i need it to install the new flash player
[12:30] <abhi_> jrib: usermod?
[12:30] <jrib> abhi_: deluser USER GROUP     or usermod, yes
[12:31] <riotkittie> firefox install folder?
[12:31] <abhi_> any one know any command to remove previously stored commands on a shell ie. clear up the shell history?
[12:31] <jrib> TimeTraveller: install to ~/.mozilla/plugins/  .  But why not use flash from the repositories?
[12:31] <jtmoney> TimeTraveller: ~/.mozilla...
[12:31] <Sisco> abhi_: rm -rf ~
[12:31] <jrib> abhi_: history -c
[12:31] <kitofhawaii> abhi_: you can also do it through system -> administration -> users and groups if you prefer gui
[12:31] <andreuu> plz help, i get no video , it is all pink and grainy, sometimes sound though
[12:31] <jrib> abhi_: do not do what Sisco said.
[12:31] <jtmoney> jrib: they just released a new version, probably not in the repositories yet
[12:31] <riotkittie> Sisco: uhhhh. no.
[12:31] <Sisco> lol
[12:32] <riotkittie> that's not funny, asshat.
[12:32] <Sisco> was JK!
[12:32] <jrib> Sisco: don't ever do that here again
[12:32] <Sisco> was bout to say it
[12:32] <abhi_> jrib: i know :) thx :)
[12:32]  * riotkittie !languages herself.  :|
[12:32] <bazhang> Sisco: not funny
[12:32] <Sisco> and you people say linux is secure..
[12:32] <Sisco> you wouldn't beable to corrupt the whole system with 1 command
[12:32] <Sisco> if it was secure
[12:32] <Sisco> lol
[12:32] <riotkittie> linux is only secure as the people using it.
[12:32] <mavi-> Sisco: you cant
[12:33] <jrib> offtopic...
[12:33] <mavi-> Sisco: you can mess up your user, but not the hole system
[12:33] <Xlylith> hi all... I found a bug in flashplugin-nonfree in gutsy. I wonder if anyone has experienced such thing...
[12:33] <TimeTraveller> jrib, you mean it is available in synaptic ?
[12:33] <andreuu> arg pink and grainy video!
[12:33] <sarthor> on ubuntu gusty i am using kismet, In kismet.conf i am confused what to replace on "none" source=ipw2100,eth1,none,6, i have dell latutude x300 notebook
[12:33] <doxid> Hey guys, how do i tell my eth0 interface to go up? the lamp is active on the NIC but ubuntu dosn't find it anymore (happned during the night)
[12:33] <jrib> TimeTraveller: the whole point of the repositories is that updates are taken care of for you automatically
[12:34] <Xlylith> it seems that Adobe has modified their flash installer
[12:34] <doxid> ifconfig finds the NIC but can't use it.. and the only thing the network config tool finds is the wireless
[12:34] <jrib> TimeTraveller: I have no idea if the most recent version is there, but it usually filters down eventually from -backports at least
[12:35] <kitofhawaii> well, yah if you give everyone root access you can screw up a system quick...but you can do that with pretty much any operating system. in any case, someone needs access to the box (one way or another) before they can screw it up
[12:35] <kitofhawaii> you can wipe out a cisco router in one command...if you have access...:) and yet we build the internet on them
[12:35] <Sisco> kitofhawaii: whats the command
[12:35] <Sisco> for cisco router
[12:35] <echosystm> i installed flashplugin-nonfree
[12:35] <echosystm> but its not comming up in firefox
[12:36] <Xlylith> I wonder if anyone can refer me to how to report it to the maintainer....
[12:36] <echosystm> and when i say to install missing plugins, it says it's already installed! :(
[12:36] <dgjones> !launchpad | Xlylith
[12:36] <ubotu> Xlylith: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:36] <jrib> echosystm: did you restart firefox?
[12:36] <echosystm> yep
[12:37] <Xlylith> dgjones: I have patched it myself
[12:37] <kitofhawaii> Sisco: write erase system-config and then reload
[12:37] <SpookyET> no luck. Is it possible to reintall ubuntu by deleting the entire file system except /home?
[12:37] <Xlylith> dgjones: is that possible to submit my own patch?
[12:37] <jrib> echosystm: pastebi the result of: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree && ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[12:37] <riotkittie> SpookyET: is /home on its own partition? if not, create one and put it there. otherwise, no.
[12:37] <jrib> !paste > echosystm (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:37] <doxid> I just turned off "Networking" in the network configuration tool.. but.. i'm still here o0
[12:37] <wols_> Xlylith: poissible yes, up to the maintainer if it's accepted and used
[12:37] <dgjones> Xlylith, its probably worth reporting it on launchpad with details of how you patched it, i'm not sure how you'd go about submitting a new patch
[12:37] <linduxed_> jrib: sorry, wifi disconnected
[12:37] <wols_> doxid: /etc/init.d/networking stop
[12:38] <wols_> doxid: you will be gone, trust me
[12:38] <SpookyET> riotkittie: No, it is not
[12:38] <linduxed_> jrib: so is that really the only thing it changes?
[12:38] <linduxed_> jrib: 4 gb ram?
[12:38] <Xlylith> jrib: I found the new flash installer (from adobe) has some changes
[12:38] <jrib> linduxed_: yes
[12:38] <Past_Images> hey guys i need to use windows at work but sometimes would be useful if i could boot ubuntu on pendrive, is there a variant for this. i need to keep the usb flash thing on fat32 though so windows at work and linux (on my home machine) can both use it
[12:38] <jrib> linduxed_: but you should probably read wikipedia about it or something
[12:38] <linduxed_> jrib: no performace related stuff???
[12:38] <Xlylith> jrib: there's no .xpt file anymore
[12:38] <doxid> wols_: that will shut it down, but how do i activate the cable-based connection? as of now i'm running on my neighbours wireless cause they have priority over the cable : /
[12:38] <jrib> Xlylith: there's a bug filed I believe
[12:39] <wols_> doxid: which network chip on the wired nic?
[12:39] <linduxed_> jrib: ill do that, but if there aint more things then ill screw this
[12:39] <jrib> linduxed_: yep, that is what I recommend
[12:39] <kitofhawaii> sisco; actually i don't even think you need the system-config part...:)
[12:39] <Xlylith> jrib: I search in launchpad, but found none similar
[12:39] <Odd-rationale> Past_Images: If you want a linux system on a pendrive, try using DSL or Puppy Linux.
[12:39] <doxid> wols_: should probobly add that my eth0 can't be found in the network manager but i do find it in ifconfig. don't know what chip it is.. it's built in :P
[12:39] <Past_Images> ok will try one of those instead thanks
[12:39] <doxid> laptop : )
[12:39] <wols_> doxid: lspci |grep -i net
[12:39] <riotkittie> SpookyET: can  you create another partition?
[12:39] <linduxed_> jrib: is there a possibility to do a "smooth" switch of installation?
[12:39] <echosystm> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46939/
[12:40] <linduxed_> sort of....is there an option in the installer?
[12:40] <doxid> wols_: Realtek Semiconductor
[12:40] <echosystm> jrib: does that tell you anything?
[12:40] <wols_> doxid: which one?
[12:40] <SpookyET> riotkittie: I supposed I can install GParted and resize /
[12:40] <doxid> wols_: the eth0 cable one, the other one is a 802.11 nic
[12:40] <wols_> doxid: sudo ifup ethß
[12:40] <echosystm> i just installed some other plugin via firefox
[12:40] <wols_> doxid: sudo ifup eth0
[12:41] <echosystm> now flash works, but the movies are all messed up
[12:41] <wols_> doxid: check with ifconfig if it has a IP then. if so tell me which one
[12:41] <doxid> wols_: ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[12:41] <SpookyET> Back in the day, linux installers were creating partitions for /home /var /usr, etc. Is there a decent guide for Ubuntu that shows you how to do that? What's the optimal size for each partition
[12:41] <doxid> wols_: ifconfig finds and have a IP for the nic.
[12:41] <wols_> doxid: which IP?
[12:41] <doxid> wols_: 213.114.10.98
[12:41] <riotkittie> SpookyET: yea, i'd do that then cp -aRp /home to the new partition. then when you reinstall, select  manual... find the new partition, tell installer to mount as /home ...   uhhhhm.
[12:41] <brobostigon> spookyet: linux documentation project
[12:42] <doxid> wols_: could you ping it? : /
[12:42] <wols_> doxid: that's a public IP. do you use dhcp with your ISP= if so it should have set a route alright. /sbin/route. pastebin the output
[12:42] <wols_> doxid: pings alright
[12:42] <doxid> the route seams ok :)
[12:42] <doxid> got the GW and the DNS works properly
[12:43] <Ziggy> i've used xubuntu now for 3 weeks, im a first time linux user, and i just want to say I LOVE IT. This is the best thing that have happened to me, besides meeting my girlfriend that is :)
[12:43] <wols_> doxid: then what is your problem?
[12:43] <doxid> wols_: http://pastebin.com/d2c02f2f5
[12:43] <Odd-rationale> Ziggy: Welcome!
[12:44] <doxid> wols_: my problem is that i'm running on the wireless, because it refuses to use the wired network :P
[12:44] <linduxed_> jrib: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64_bit#Pros_and_cons
[12:44] <linduxed_> jrib: found that
[12:44] <TimeTraveller> jrib, ok thanks... i just wanted the newest one because it sopports HD playback
[12:44] <kitofhawaii> doxid: is this a laptop or a desktop?
[12:44] <doxid> kitofhawaii: laptop
[12:44] <doxid> worked great last night
[12:44] <onur> my networkmanager icon on the gnome panel is missing, but I'm connected to the internet. how can i fix that?
[12:44] <SpookyET> linux documetnation project does not tell you optimal partition sizes
[12:44] <kitofhawaii> doxid: do you have a switch on your laptop to disable wireless?
[12:44] <doxid> kitofhawaii: yepp and it's off.. and i'm still running on it :P
[12:45] <wols_> doxid: that is wrong. it clearly shows you you have a wired defaultroute
[12:45] <doxid> wols_: /wois me and check my ident and see if it has switched over yet.
[12:46] <jrib> linduxed_: nope, you would have to reinstall (backup /home).  If you have /home on its own partition, it would be pretty smooth
[12:46] <Assassin5> I've got ubuntu studio setup on a laptop and I want to plug midi control into it. What would you guys recommend for a midi connection? It's not no game port so a standard midi cable is not an option. Would a USB Midi cable function okay?
[12:46] <wols_> doxid: cause you have two defaultroutes. don't assign the wireless a defaultroute
[12:46] <jrib> echosystm: yes, can you tell me the output of 'which firefox'
[12:46] <doxid> wols_: how do i not do that? seams to be working automaticly :P
[12:47] <echosystm> /usr/bin/firefox
[12:47] <wols_> doxid: easiest is to use a static IP
[12:47] <linduxed_> jrib: you think all my settings will be saved if i backup /home or should i backup some of the /etc?
[12:47] <doxid> i'll see what i can come up with :) reboot :p
[12:48] <brif8> An update to libasound2 and libasound2-dev was done  Somehow it appears the debian .deb version 1.0.15-2 was used and not the ubuntu package.  Synaptic Package Manager won't allow me to re-install  is there anyway to force this ?
[12:48] <jrib> linduxed_: if you know you have edited files in /etc/, then yes
[12:48] <jrib> echosystm: anything in ~/.mozilla/plugins/?
[12:48] <kitofhawaii> doxid: right click network manager, uncheck "enable wireless"...tried that?
[12:49] <echosystm> nothing there jrib
[12:49] <echosystm> that folder doesnt exist
[12:49] <jrib> brif8: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION  but make sure your sources.list do not have any debian repos
[12:49] <jrib> echosystm: ok, close firefox and run 'ps -ef | grep firefox'
[12:50] <linduxed_> jrib: will my gdm, gnome and compiz settings be saved if i backup home?
[12:50] <brif8> jrib: thanks where do I check the latest ubuntu version for these two packages ?
[12:50] <kitofhawaii> oh he left
[12:50] <jrib> brif8: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[12:50] <echosystm> jared     5867  5712  0 23:20 pts/1    00:00:00 grep firefox
[12:50] <jrib> echosystm: now start firefox and visit http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/
[12:50] <jrib> echosystm: start it by typing 'firefox' in the terminal
[12:51] <echosystm> done
[12:51] <corruptionoflulz> how do i find the process ID of something?
[12:51] <jrib> echosystm: does the page say flash is not installed?
[12:51] <echosystm> yup
[12:51] <Daverocks> corruptionoflulz: pidof "processname"
[12:52] <jrib> echosystm: hmm
[12:52] <corruptionoflulz> and how do i kill a process?
[12:52] <Daverocks> corruptionoflulz: you don't have to put the quotes there
[12:52] <Daverocks> corruptionoflulz: killall processname   ... or... kill pid
[12:52] <corruptionoflulz> Daverocks: thanks.
[12:52] <jrib> echosystm: wait, what other plugin did you install...
[12:52] <brif8> jrib:  with apt-cache  which line is the ubuntu version  Installed: and Candidate says the same 1.0.15-2
[12:52] <echosystm> gnash
[12:52] <echosystm> i removed it though
[12:53] <echosystm> flash movies didnt work properly with that installed
[12:53] <jrib> echosystm: it's hard to troubleshoot things if you install other things at the same time
[12:53] <echosystm> sorry
[12:53] <jrib> brif8: it tells you the repository it comes from
[12:53] <brobostigon> i use powerpc, so even less softwre works for me, even less than 64bit.
[12:54] <jrib> echosystm: readlink -f /usr/lib/firefox/flashplugin-alternative.so
[12:54] <brif8> jrib: ok under version table: it has 1.0.14-iubuntu8 0    500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com  thanks
[12:54] <echosystm> /usr/lib/firefox/flashplugin-alternative.so
[12:55] <jrib> echosystm: that was the output?
[12:55] <echosystm> yep
[12:56] <jrib> echosystm: what does 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/flashplugin-alternative.so' return?
[12:57] <echosystm> ls: /usr/lib/firefox/flashplugin-alternative.so: No such file or directory
[12:57] <blackfox_> i install Mythwar use wine .. but i got error.what can i do?
[12:57] <echosystm> do i need flashplugin-mozilla?
[12:58] <echosystm> sorry
[12:58] <echosystm> flashplayer-mozilla
[12:58] <wols_> blackfox_: you tell us the error
[12:58] <jrib> echosystm: my mistake.  I meant ' readlink -f /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so'
[12:58] <echosystm> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[12:58] <blackfox_> error mouse..
[12:59] <jrib> echosystm: and 'ls -l /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so'
[12:59] <wols_> blackfox_: that is NOT the error. try again
[12:59] <wols_> it doesn't say "error mouse" it says something else
[12:59] <echosystm> ls: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so: No such file or directory
[12:59] <corruptionoflulz> i'm trying to run no-ip, but it keeps saying it can't find the config file
[13:00] <wols_> corruptionoflulz: exact error. no paraphrasing
[13:00] <jrib> echosystm: ok.  So I am guessing you installed flashplugin-nonfree recently and the installer is just broken
[13:00] <corruptionoflulz> $ no-ip
[13:00] <corruptionoflulz> Can't locate configuration file /etc/no-ip.conf. (Try -c). Ending!
[13:00] <blackfox_> just mouse "00e0 mouse es*u"
[13:00] <wols_> corruptionoflulz: can't you read? it exactly tells you which config file it wants
[13:00] <echosystm> how is that fixed jrib?
[13:01] <jrib> echosystm: well, you can wait for an updated package to trickle down or you can install flash manually into ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[13:01] <kitofhawaii> echosystm: i'd confirm whether flash it's there at all "ls -l /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so"
[13:01] <corruptionoflulz> wols_: but then it still tells me that it can't locate it
[13:01] <kitofhawaii> sometimes the link doesn't happen
[13:01] <kitofhawaii> (for whatever reason)
[13:01] <_Sisco> do I need like a IPv6 enabled router to run IPv6 on LAN?
[13:01] <corruptionoflulz> ~$ no-ip -c /etc/no-ip.conf
[13:01] <corruptionoflulz> Can't locate configuration file /etc/no-ip.conf. (Try -c). Ending!
[13:02] <echosystm> its not there kitofhawaii
[13:02] <echosystm> the directory is empty
[13:02] <_Sisco> do I need like a IPv6 enabled router to run IPv6 on LAN?
[13:02] <wols_> corruptionoflulz: what part of what I wrote didn't you undestand? why are you unable to check if /etc//no-ip.conf exists and if not create it?
[13:02] <_Sisco> oops my bad double paste
[13:02] <jrib> echosystm: grab the tar.gz from http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[13:02] <corruptionoflulz> wols_: exists, and i used -C to create once
[13:02] <wols_> corruptionoflulz: it fscking doesn't exist. are you  analphabetic?
[13:02] <echosystm> it's possible my repository is not good
[13:02] <wols_> is no-ip using a chroot?
[13:03] <echosystm> im using my ISPs mirror
[13:03] <wols_> what are the permissions of the file?
[13:03] <echosystm> how would i re-cache the package?
[13:03] <blackfox_> after install need restart ?
[13:03] <corruptionoflulz> wols_: permissions were all at root, then i changed it to my user hoping that would fix it
[13:05] <jrib> echosystm: it isn't your server, there is no update yet
[13:05] <echosystm> i just removed the plugin
[13:05] <echosystm> then tried reinstalling it
[13:05] <corruptionoflulz> wols_: ok, i tried deleting the config file then making a new one with -C, but now i'm getting permission denied.
[13:05] <echosystm> Download done.
[13:05] <echosystm> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[13:05] <echosystm> The Flash plugin is NOT installed.
[13:06] <jrib> echosystm: yes, because the package is not updated
[13:06] <echosystm> ok, so there is something wrong with the actual package itself
[13:06] <echosystm> ?
[13:06] <echosystm> sorry, im new to all this
[13:07] <echosystm> you need to dumb it down a bit for me :P
[13:07] <wols_> corruptionoflulz: chmod a+r <file>
[13:08] <jrib> echosystm: basically, the package just grabs the tar.gz from adobe's server and installs it for you.  But the package checks that the md5sum of the tar.gz is what it expects.  So when adobe puts a new version out, you download the new one, but the md5sums do not match, so the package says, "oh, can't install this, something is wrong"
[13:08] <corruptionoflulz> wols_: how what would i use to give write access too?
[13:08] <neur1> I have ubuntu installed, to install kubuntu I just sudo apt-get kubuntu desktop install?
[13:08] <brif8> I see that alsa-lib is recommend it has an orig.tar.gz  and a ubunt8.diff.gz  I have unpacked both  what do I do with the .diff file ?
[13:08] <echosystm> right
[13:09] <echosystm> ok i follow
[13:09] <echosystm> thank you jrib
[13:10] <corruptionoflulz> wols_: thanks a lot! i think i've got it now!
[13:10] <handsoffate> how can I change the mirror I download updates? I'm really having trouble with rakes <20 :(
[13:10] <wols_> brif8: apt-get source <package> and the patch is applied for you
[13:10] <wols_> handsoffate: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:11] <handsoffate> I'm a beginner
[13:11] <handsoffate> how do I do that
[13:11] <brobostigon> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:12] <IdleOne> !repos | handsoffate
[13:12] <ubotu> handsoffate: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[13:14] <brif8> wols_ thanks
[13:14] <purplecow> Does someone know why I can only change the compiz settings on my other monitor with twinview and both screens running as separate x-servers?
[13:17] <blackfox_> i need setting mouse and keyboard at wine?
[13:17] <ciacon> hi all... how can I load vesa-fb @ startup?? I miss a high-res command line ;-)
[13:17] <wols_> blackfox_: usually not
[13:17] <wols_> ciacon: set a different videomode with "vga=XXX" as a kernel-parameter iirc
[13:18] <sarthor> is there any download for gusty to download youtube video, need manual link also (free soft)
[13:19] <ciacon> wols_: tried that, but the kernel-module is not loaded or even there... it used to work for 7.04, but sadly upgrading to 7.10 I had a dead command-line...
[13:19] <bazhang> sarthor: miro
[13:20] <glad> hi
[13:21] <Parsi> ubuntu does not mount ntfs drive!
[13:21] <Parsi> it does not show up them in "Computer"
[13:21] <blackfox_> need install DirectX ??
[13:21] <glad> can anyone help me to resolve some troubles with a pendrive in 7.10 ?
[13:21] <Ximal> hey guys .. is it possible to get battlefield 2142 to work on linux ?
[13:21] <glad> try cedega
[13:22] <ghigomatto_> Ciao, dovrei eseguire uno script bash nome_script.sh da dentro crontab, ma non riesco; Se lo lancio da dentro una shell normalissima occorre usare il formalismo ./nome_script.sh, ed esso funziona perfettamente. La stessa cosa, da dentro crontab, ovviamente non poteva funzionare, e non so come farlo partire, qualcuno ha un suggerimento? Mirco.
[13:22] <wols_> ghigomatto_: english ONLY here
[13:22] <wols_> !it
[13:22] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:23] <wols_> !anyone | glad
[13:23] <ubotu> glad: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[13:23] <ghigomatto_> ubotu, thanks,sorry...
[13:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks,sorry... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:24] <Parsi> hey
[13:24] <Parsi> ubuntu does not my ntfs drives!!!
[13:24] <wols_> Parsi: this sentence no verbiage
[13:25] <wols_> !ntfs-3g
[13:25] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[13:25] <Parsi> it does it before
[13:26] <nils_>  /j #ubuntu.de
[13:26] <nils_> sry
[13:28] <glad> ubotu > sry :(
[13:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sry :( - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:28] <vicentecarro> Hi
[13:29] <bullgard4> I am using OpenDict 0.6.2. It's window shows a head line "OpenDict - Freedict German-English". Why are there two different terms 'OpenDict' and 'FreeDict'?
[13:29] <Sisco> anyone know of a tutorial for setting up a linux server to be a router/firewall?
[13:29] <vicentecarro> Is there a GPL application(with free database) like GeoIp?
[13:30] <linduxed_> where is grub.conf located? i see only menu.lst
[13:30] <_6StringKng_> menu.lst is everything you shoudl need I think
[13:30] <kelsin> linduxed_: ubuntu doesn't symlink menu.lst
[13:30] <ciacon> linduxed_: I think one is the other
[13:30] <aurax> heya all
[13:31] <linduxed_> kelsin: ok, so i should edit menu directly?
[13:31] <stdin> vicentecarro: geoip-bin from universe
[13:31] <linduxed_> kelsin: even though its read only?
[13:31] <aurax> i got a quick q', how can i boot multiple operating systems from the same drive?
[13:31] <kelsin> linduxed_: my menu.lst is rw to root, but yes you should edit it directly
[13:31] <glad> aurax > doing a dual boot
[13:32] <ciacon> hi all - I have a problem in menu.lst... I just added the following "vga=791", but I can't see my command line anymore... any hints??
[13:32] <kelsin> linduxed_: kernel upgrades don't require editing, just editing for other os's or custom kernels
[13:32] <aurax> glad> can i do it with grub?
[13:32] <aurax> or i have to create different partitions for each os
[13:32] <kelsin> ciacon: look int /var/log/messages and mesg for errors, your hardward probably doesn't support that video mode or you're running the wrong console driver
[13:32] <glad> i did it, creating partitions with gparted
[13:33] <linduxed_> kelsin: im editing it because i got a hint that if i add noapic to the kernel
[13:33] <linduxed_> kelsin: ill get my dvd back
[13:34] <glad> aurax > for example, first i got my computer with windo$s, with gparted i changed the dimensions, and after that, i installed ubuntu 7.04
[13:34] <kelsin> linduxed_: yes you edit menu.lst directory, using "sudo"
[13:35] <glad> when I start my computer, and grub 1.5  is charged, I can select my boot
[13:36] <ciacon> kelsin: what should I be looking for?? I did "cat /var/log/messages | grep error"... can't find anything interesting....
[13:36] <aurax> glad, u used gparted under windows ?
[13:36] <ce_siapa> #purwokero
[13:36] <aurax> ?!
[13:37] <ce_siapa> #purwokerto
[13:38] <glad> aurax > I download the live CD, next I rebooted my system, I when I start my computer with the live CD, in Ubuntu, I used gparted
[13:38] <glad> also, you can use partition magic over windows, bus its no free
[13:39] <dissident> i want to dual boot, you guys are talking about that
[13:39] <ce_siapa> haiiiii..
[13:39] <wezza> hmm, I'm getting tired of it.. my laptop locks a few times a day... the only thing I can do is turn it off and right on. What could be causing such locks, I can't see any errors in the logs?
[13:39] <dissident> partition magic
[13:39] <ce_siapa> very quite tonight
[13:39] <dissident> won't work here
[13:39] <linduxed_> is there a noapic option for windows xp? i need something like that to be able to use my disc drive without ditching grub
[13:39] <dissident> thinl because it won't assign a drive letter to linux partition
[13:39] <glad> dissident > I refered from win
[13:40] <girl_magicLove> #indonesia
[13:40] <dissident> can you help me dual boot with xp
[13:40] <girl_magicLove> helloooo...
[13:40] <dissident> on two different hdd
[13:41] <linduxed_> dissident: you in ubuntu lie disk now?
[13:41] <dissident> how to assign a drive letter, it won't work
[13:41] <dissident> not now but i do have dvd and ubuntu cd
[13:41] <linduxed_> dissident: linux doesnt work with drive letters
[13:41] <wapowapi> how can i enable gyatche?
[13:41] <linduxed_> dissident: what drives fo you have?
[13:42] <dissident> well i used part magic but it won't show boot screen , goes dirrectly into xp
[13:42] <dissident> xp is sata
[13:42] <dissident> linux ide
[13:43] <dgjones> !dualboot | dissident
[13:43] <ubotu> dissident: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[13:43] <bubuntu> hia... anyone could help me about this message in syslog: Dec  5 13:42:26 joan-laptop kernel: [15215.080000] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[13:43] <bubuntu> Dec  5 13:42:26 joan-laptop kernel: [15215.080000] ata1.00: cmd ca/00:08:87:10:80/00:00:00:00:00/e1 tag 0 cdb 0x1e data 4096 out
[13:44] <wols_> bubuntu: run a smartmontools long test
[13:46] <marcmarc> hi, I have ubuntu server 6.10. I am trying to install collectd but the command apt-get install collectd does not work
[13:46] <marcmarc> how can I add collectd to apt-get?
[13:46] <bubuntu> wols_ what is that? is an aplicaction?
[13:47] <wols_> yes
[13:47] <glad> dissident > First, I try to boot under the same HD
[13:48] <brif8> Is there anyway to force a rebuild of all packages ?  It would appear the libasound2 is shared by many and simply downgrading to the ubuntu offical version hasn't helped. E.G.  aplay test.wav  hangs  when using strace  it hangs after the 6th call to stat64("/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf  ?
[13:49] <dissident> do i need to create a ext2 first before using live cd to partition
[13:49] <ke-> dissident.. When you install from the live cd it will just partition for you
[13:49] <wols_> dissident: no
[13:50] <wols_> dissident: first you have to partition, then you can make filesystems on that partition. not the otherr way around
[13:50] <ctindle> How can I reconfigure or have Ubuntu autodetect my ethernet adapter?
[13:51] <dissident> can i do that with the live cd while installing
[13:51] <dissident> or better in windows first
[13:52] <wols_> dissident: you can partition in windows perhaps but not make filesystemjs
[13:52] <wols_> ctindle: autodetect I doubt it but reconfigure sure
[13:52] <wols_> ctindle: what network card
[13:52] <ctindle> Broadcom
[13:52] <wols_> what chip?
[13:53] <kosnick> when i install an application thorugh synaptic do i get the source code at the same time? if so where is it saved? for example if i get amarok where is the source code ? If not how can i get it?
[13:53] <ctindle> lemme check
[13:53] <dissident> so while installing ubuntu i can delete, format and make new files then
[13:53] <wols_> dissident: partitions and filesystems. not files
[13:53] <ctindle> BCM5721
[13:54] <wezza> hmm, I'm getting tired of it.. my laptop locks a few times a day... the only thing I can do is turn it off and right on. What could be causing such locks, I can't see any errors in the logs?
[13:54] <brif8> anyone?  even certain apps won't open eg firefox nor terminal
[13:54] <wols_> ctindle: on what hardware do you run ubuntu?
[13:54] <ctindle> IBM service tech came out to replace a mobo on an x3250 server
[13:54] <wols_> ah, netxtreme
[13:54] <bubuntu> wols_: once i have smartmontools... how can i get smartmontools long test?
[13:54] <wols_> I dunno which driver that uses. but load it (check if it's laoded with /sbin/ifconfig -a)
[13:55] <wols_> then man interfasces to configure it
[13:55] <ctindle> ok
[13:55] <wols_> bubuntu: man smartctl
[13:55] <ctindle> ill give it a shot
[13:56] <jmazaredo> is the postfix log in 7.10 /var/log/mail.log?
[13:56] <wols_> jmazaredo: check syslog
[13:56] <wols_> grep postfix /var/log/syslog
[13:57] <phoenix_> hey
[13:57] <phoenix_> does anyone know of a good keylogger (hidden) for parental controls?
[13:57] <IpMooIng> i love ubuntu
[13:58] <wols_> phoenix_: such things don't exist on linux except in rootkits. no one will give you a rootkit
[13:58] <IpMooIng> wols_  thank god
[13:58] <phoenix_> ummm, that seems kinda not fun...
[13:59] <eses> does anyone know what is error 17 is?
[13:59] <wols_> parents who spy on their kids aren't fun or good parents either. if you even are a parent
[13:59] <wols_> eses: grub error
[13:59] <mavi-> phoenix_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=450525 just google it..
[13:59] <eses> yes grub error
[14:00] <jmazaredo> i cant find the smtp fail to login logs
[14:00] <ICQnumber> !de
[14:00] <Pitel_laptop> hmm, I upgraded to gutsy, and xorg.conf has changed graphic driver from i810 to intel. Is it ok? I have Intel 945
[14:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:00] <ICQnumber> ubuntu in german?
[14:00] <noob101> ubuntian
[14:01] <wols_> Pitel_laptop: yes it's the same
[14:01] <aguitel> how reinstall java plugin ?
[14:01] <jmazaredo> all logs in /var/log if default install right?
[14:02] <wols_> jmazaredo: yes
[14:03] <glassface> i'm unable to see the menu items in my xmms.  which additional package shud I install.  It was working fine in feisty.  but not in gutsy.
[14:03] <glassface> please..
[14:03] <jmazaredo> i cant see failed smtp logins in the logs just login and log off
[14:03] <fiXXXerMet> I have a mail server at 192.168.9.197 with a firewall rule sending all SMTP (port 25) to that computer.  Doing netstat -tap, I see   tcp        0      0 *:smtp                  *:*                     LISTEN     -   but when I telnet host 25, the connection fails.
[14:04] <fiXXXerMet> Using postfix as the mail serer
[14:05] <mrtimdog> fiXXXerMet: What's your local machines IP? Is it on the same subnet?
[14:06] <brif8> Is there no way to force a reinstall of all base ubuntu packages including the os itself  ?
[14:07]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:07] <mrtimdog> I'm trying to connect a bluetooth headset using the gnome bluetooth-applet but keep getting an error like "obex://[...]" is not a valid location. Am I missing some url handlers/packages?
[14:08] <fiXXXerMet> mrtimdog: The server is 192.168.9.197, the firewall is 192.168.9.1, and I am at work on an external address.
[14:08] <aguitel> how install flash plugin for firefox?
[14:08] <fiXXXerMet> mrtimdog: I _think_ I can connect when I'm on the local subnet, but not when at work/external
[14:08] <AndrewB> !flash > aguitel (see pm)
[14:09] <ty> how do u download stuff on this ubuntu thingy???
[14:09] <ty> i download files but then cant open them
[14:11] <RoBz18> Hi guys, not too much experience with ubuntu here, but I'm trying to install it onto a USB stick.  On the third step I am told to type unmount /dev/sdb1 . When I do this terminal tells me that the command is unknown. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?
[14:11] <wpk> umount
[14:11] <wpk> not unmount
[14:11] <RoBz18> Oh god, I'm an idiot
[14:11] <RoBz18> Thanks a lot
[14:11] <RoBz18> :)
[14:11] <IpMooIng> :) happens
[14:11] <mrtimdog> fiXXXerMet: Can you ping/telnet/ssh, or connect in any other way, or is this just a problem with the one port?
[14:12] <fiXXXerMet> mrtimdog: I can ssh in fine, and I can connect to the websites that are hosted on the machine.
[14:12] <fiXXXerMet> So it seems like it's just port 25.
[14:12] <fiXXXerMet> I can even connect imap
[14:12] <kosnick> while installing any app with synaptic do i get the source code at the same time? if so where is it located? if not how can i get some about any app for example amarok?
[14:14] <MasterShrek> kosnick, enable the deb-src repos, im not sure where the source is located though, /var/packages or /var/source or soemthing i spose
[14:14] <kosnick> ok shrek thx
[14:14] <dissident> what is deifference between ext2 and ext3
[14:15] <MasterShrek> ext3 has journaling
[14:15] <mrtimdog> fiXXXerMet: Can you 'telnet 192.168.9.197 25' from 192.168.9.197 itself?
[14:15] <dissident> so i better choose ext3 for everything linux then ?
[14:15] <MasterShrek> its better to
[14:16] <genii> Well, swap for swap partitions LOL
[14:16] <fiXXXerMet> mrtimdog: Yes I can telnet localhost 25
[14:16] <MasterShrek> not required though, ext2 should work just fine, but if ext3 is available, use that
[14:16] <dissident> so i make a ext3 part with part magic in windows
[14:16] <genii> ext3 can also be read by ext2 driver, no journalling
[14:17] <reckle5s> do shuttle boxes work well with ubuntu?
[14:17] <dissident> and then with ubuntu i make swap and home partition of it
[14:17] <dissident> or better to make diff part with pat magic
[14:17] <Mark761966> Hello again.
[14:18] <val_> hello. were is my memory?$ dmesg | grep Memory
[14:18] <val_> [   36.749929] Memory: 3099416k/4194304k available (1993k kernel code, 44572k reserved, 900k data, 328k init, 2227712k highmem)
[14:18] <val_>  Why onliy 3g?
[14:19] <mrtimdog> fiXXXerMet: No, not loopback, 192.168.9.197.
[14:19] <Mark761966> I want to create a multi Ubuntu live DVD to give to my brother in law so he can try the different flavours out
[14:19] <fiXXXerMet> mrtimdog: Yes, that works too.
[14:19] <void^> val_: 32bit desktop kernel?
[14:20] <Mark761966> Does that sound like a good idea?
[14:20] <IpMooIng> Mark761966:  no
[14:20] <Mark761966> Why not?
[14:20] <mrtimdog> fiXXXerMet: What's the FW rule?
[14:20] <IpMooIng> multy..  how would u fit it all on 1 dvd
[14:20] <RoBz18> Anyone know where the "#" button is on a standard ubuntu keyboard? I can't find it. xD
[14:20] <val_> void^ how i can find this inormation?
[14:20] <Mark761966> WHo's multy?
[14:20] <IpMooIng> make 4/5 disks
[14:21] <void^> val_: uname -a
[14:21] <val_> void^ 2.6.20-16-generic
[14:21] <livrerj> hello, i was wondering if anyone of you has experience with thin clients and ltsp...
[14:21] <val_> $ uname -a
[14:21] <val_> Linux t 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:55:27 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:21] <Mark761966> I was thinking of just putting Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu on it. Plus a bootloader
[14:21] <void^> val_: yes, those 32bit -generic kernels aren't pae enabled
[14:22] <dmi3on> xchat how can i make multiply chanels windows like in mirc ?
[14:22] <rocco> join #ubuntu-motu
 intresting, and wich kernel do enabled?
[14:22] <bubuntu> wols_: ok, i'm doing the long test... what do I have to find?
[14:22] <void^> val_: the -server kernel, afaik. or just use 64bit.
[14:23] <rocco> hey all anyone had a problem with a usb keyboard not working on the ubuntu gutsy install cd
[14:23] <rocco> ??
[14:23] <fiXXXerMet> mrtimdog: Smoothwall firewall and it just sends port 25 from external to the server on port 25
[14:23] <wols_> bubuntu: possibly a broken disk. if so you should probably buy a new harddisk
[14:23] <livrerj> any of you guys has experience with ltsp and thi clients?
[14:23] <val_> void^ 10thx
[14:23] <bubuntu> but i didnt have any problems with dapper
[14:24] <Mark761966> Which bootloader should I add to the DVD?
[14:24] <genii> isolinux
[14:24] <Mark761966> Kay
[14:24] <mrtimdog> fiXXXerMet: I've not used smoothwall :(
[14:25] <wols_> !anyone | livrerj
[14:25] <ubotu> livrerj: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:25] <corruptionoflulz> !ask | livrerj
[14:25] <ubotu> livrerj: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:25] <corruptionoflulz> is probably more appropriate.
[14:25] <corruptionoflulz> or both of them combined.
[14:25] <bubuntu> wols_: i installed ubuntu 7.10 two weeks ago and that bug usually appears when im not connected in internet
[14:26] <wols_> bubuntu: kernel problem then
[14:27] <untitled-laptop> Can anyone here awnser if i have an asus laptop dose dual booting with ubuntu somehow void my warenty when putting it in for repair?
[14:27] <bubuntu> wols_: i have 2.6.22-14-generic, should i change this kernel?
[14:28] <RoBz18> untitled-laptop: No
[14:28] <Scarey> untitled-laptop, I can't see how the contents of the harddrive can affect your warrenty
[14:28] <untitled-laptop> RoBz18: Thanks.
[14:28] <RoBz18> Ok :)
[14:28] <brobostigon> bubuntu, that depends on what machine you have, powerpc, x86, 64bit.32bit??
[14:28] <Scarey> untitled-laptop, but if you put it in for repair, you might get the drive wiped.. so backup
[14:28] <genii> untitled-laptop: I had similar issue with my Gateway laptop, they told me if i wiped the Vista partition or the system recovery partition and just installed linux they would not honour the warrantee. But otherwise if the recovery partition and vista were still on it they would.
[14:28] <bubuntu> x86
[14:29] <brobostigon> bubuntu: that kernel is fine then.
[14:30] <tntCry> why cant i get hacking app's from add/remove
[14:30] <RoBz18> You can get some...
[14:30] <Chousuke> add/remove contains only common apps
[14:31] <RoBz18> Nothing much tough
[14:31] <Chousuke> well, mostly.
[14:31] <brobostigon> !synaptic
[14:31] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[14:31] <RoBz18> though*
[14:31] <Chousuke> use aptitude or synaptic to access the APT repositories :P
[14:31] <tntCry> but ssh and putty is not hacking its more like netmeeting or telnet
[14:31] <dissident> is a swap partition really needed
[14:31] <Chousuke> tntCry: what is "hacking" then? :P
[14:31] <brobostigon> dissident, that depends on how much ram you have??
[14:31] <tntCry> i want something like sub7 or something to hack the people around here for instance
[14:32] <Chousuke> meh
[14:32] <Chousuke> go away
[14:32] <dissident> 80 gb hd and 2gb ram
[14:32] <tntCry> not destroy theyr lifes but give them nice ad's about my site and make some business , im a deedful person hard to find much of me
[14:32] <mauro__> uhm :) i'd never expect this many people on one channel :)
[14:32] <brobostigon> you will still need swap.
[14:32] <wols_> tntCry: you won't get that from ubuntu. go awaay
[14:32] <Chousuke> tntCry: you're only allowed to try and crack people's machines when you actually have a clue about what you're doing
[14:33] <wols_> tntCry: you are a spammer. just name it like it is
[14:33] <tntCry> when thinking in a negative way maybe wols_
[14:33] <Chousuke> tntCry: a script kiddie using pre-made programs is the lowest form of life.
[14:33] <dissident> and what is best for linux primary or logical partition
[14:33] <wols_> tntCry: and if you crack other people's machines, the police will come and prosecute you
[14:33] <Chousuke> tntCry: and you're sounding like one
[14:33] <wols_> dissident: irrelevant
[14:33] <dissident> so it doesn't matter
[14:33] <tntCry> but positively maybe i might gain 80,000$ from the whole world ? in 2months time :D
[14:34] <Chousuke> tntCry: no.
[14:34] <LjL> tntCry: there are plenty of networking packages in the official repositories. please type « /msg ubotu packages » and « /msg ubotu software ». now please cease explaining in detail how you're going to use them.
[14:34] <Chousuke> tntCry: you would fail.
[14:34] <LjL> !ot
[14:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:34] <tntCry> thanks LjL  (K)
[14:34] <Chousuke> tntCry: and likely end up in prison if you try.
[14:34] <tntCry> if they have a glimpse of my ip
[14:34] <tntCry> right now im unprotected though ;)
[14:34] <brobostigon> 86.99.146.124, thats tntcrys ip adress, i will pass it to the police to track,
[14:34] <Chousuke> they will.
[14:35] <Chousuke> tntCry: I'll say it again, but it sounds like you have no clue at all.
[14:35] <LjL> ok, stop, everyone, thanks
[14:35] <wols_> tntCry: considering how clueless you are, it will be easy if you actaully do some damage
[14:35] <corruptionoflulz> bah, stupid compiz not showing titlebars... and i'm much too lazy to fix it.
[14:35] <tntCry> lol the ip will be far changed by then.
[14:35] <Chousuke> bah
[14:35] <LjL> STOP
[14:35] <tntCry> !offtopic
[14:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:36] <vrinek> a friend of mine recently installed ubuntu 7.10 and cant connect to the internet. it is a netgear modem/router (4 eths) and is connected to the internet. he can access the modem's IP and change its settings but cannot connect to the internet
[14:37] <mavi-> do he have the gateway set up?
[14:37] <brobostigon> i could very easily tntcry, get you mac adress from your ip, and then track that in ip packets,i dont reccommend you even think about these things, it very dangerous and you will be caught.
[14:38] <LjL> ... get... mac address... from... ip... besides didn't i say stop
[14:39] <brobostigon> sorry LjL
[14:39] <vrinek> mavi-: gateway should be set as the ip of the modem?
[14:39] <brobostigon> i will leave, i cant stand idiots like tntcry
[14:39] <jmazaredo> if smtp is chrooted i wont get access outside the server?
[14:39] <jmazaredo> via mail clients?
[14:39] <ikonia> jmazaredo: our smtp server won't
[14:39] <mw-home> I just finished installing xubuntu on a really old laptop (600mhz, 60mb ram).
[14:40] <ikonia> jmazaredo: a mail client can only access the server over standard protocols so how would you expect to get access to to a server with a mail client
[14:40] <jmazaredo> can be pop also chrooted?
[14:40] <ikonia> jmazaredo: totally, if your server supports it, it easy, if not its a long winded effort
[14:40] <mavi-> val_: nope, the gateway-ip he got from his ISP, or if hes on dhcp he should get one automatically
[14:40] <tntCry> he surely have nothing to do
[14:40] <mavi-> vrinek: even
[14:40] <mw-home> I am running windowmaker because xfce took too much.  anyway, are there any graphical web browsers that are not resource pigs?  firefox runs really slowly.
[14:40] <mavi-> vrinek: the gateway-ip he got from his ISP, or if hes on dhcp he should get one automatically
[14:41] <corruptionoflulz> mw-home: try opera or epiphany
[14:41] <vrinek> mavi-: i think he's on dhcp
[14:41] <dorcarin> jobs #edubuntu.es
[14:41] <ikonia> mw-home: if you can't run a window manager, I'd give up on windowed applications
[14:41] <mw-home> ikonia: i am running windowmaker.
[14:41] <mw-home> there was a browser a few years ago called dilly.  i can't find it now.
[14:41] <ikonia> mw-home: but only because you couldn't hanle xfce
[14:41] <mavi-> vrinek: try "route -n" and you will get a list over gateways that are configured, lhe should have one row with 0.0.0.0 in the first column and the ip to his gateway in the second column if its set up correctly
[14:41]  * LiMaO likes links =P
[14:42] <void^> mw-home: dillo?
[14:42] <vrinek> mavi-: well, yesterday (after we installed ubuntu) i connected his laptop to my wireless router and all went fine. it seems kinda weird that it cannot connect through eth
[14:42] <mw-home> void^: was that it?
[14:42] <void^> mw-home: minimalistic browser
[14:42] <mavi-> vrinek: can be that the wireless is set as the default route
[14:43] <erUSUL> mw-home: dillo ??
[14:43] <vrinek> mavi-: in network settings he has "roaming mode" enabled, should he turn it off?
[14:44] <tntCry> vrinek, type this in terminal cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:44] <tntCry> write down the output vrinek
[14:45] <vrinek> tntCry: i got him on the phone...
[14:45] <tntCry> tell me to write it :)
[14:45] <vrinek> tntCry: cant copy paste over it :(
[14:45] <tntCry> for sure vrinek he got this output nameserver 192.168.1.1 or something similar that dns is appointed to the router
[14:46] <tntCry> vrinek, ?
[14:47] <vrinek> tntCry: sry my irc client is bugged
[14:47] <tntCry> tell him to write this in terminal ( cat /etc/resolv.conf )
[14:47] <Ximal> i just installed ut2003 to my computer but the cdkey wouldn't accept. would someone mind telling me how to purge the game from the system ?
[14:48] <tntCry> Ximal, i get what you mean , in windows the keys are read from registry i think you can find help around google
[14:49] <tntCry> vrinek, have you told him to type cat /etc/resolv.conf
[14:49] <Ximal> i want to purge it tntcry ..
[14:49] <vrinek> tntCry: one moment...
[14:49] <Ximal> i don't care to get the key to work.. i'm going to try a different install method and do not want the duplicate game installation
[14:49] <Ximal> !purge
[14:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:49] <tntCry> Ximal, you are running an archieve game or an installed game/
[14:49] <Ximal> installed.. unreal tournament 2003
[14:50] <|Steffan|> Hoe ken ik deze error verhelpen "Can't call method "description" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 93, <GEN0> line 1"
[14:50] <|Steffan|> ik krijg het bij het installeren(apt-get install php5)
[14:50] <rambo3> was ist los
[14:50] <LjL> !nl | |Steffan|
[14:50] <ubotu> |Steffan|: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[14:50] <|Steffan|> ah, dom van mij
[14:50] <tntCry> Ximal, sorry :/
[14:50] <tntCry> Ximal, this is a weird problem :s
[14:50] <|Steffan|> Thought I was in Ubuntu-nl :S
[14:51] <Ximal> lol @ steffan ..
[14:51] <Ximal> install lamp if you want php5 to run .. it comes with mysql / php
[14:51] <Ximal> ;p;
[14:52] <tntCry> vrinek how can you live with that buged irc , get xchat
[14:52] <vrinek> damn irc client was bugged, had to switch to x-chat...
[14:52] <vrinek> :)
[14:52] <tntCry> yes
[14:52] <tntCry> what we're you using?
[14:52] <boris_> can ubuntu read diskettes ?
[14:52] <tntCry> ys
[14:52] <vrinek> linkinus
[14:52] <vrinek> im on mac
[14:53] <DG19075> have had no probs with Pdgin here
[14:53] <tntCry> oh
[14:53] <tntCry> dont you have ubuntu vrinek ?
[14:53] <boris_> can ubuntu read disketes ?
[14:53] <vrinek> anyways, the only ip in etc/resolv was his router's
[14:53] <wols_> boris_: yes it can of course
[14:53] <tntCry> i knew
[14:53] <vrinek> nope, friend of mine has
[14:53] <tntCry> vrinek, tell him
[14:53] <tntCry> vrinek, that is a known bug issue since dapper
[14:53] <boris_> wois : i got a diskete in my computer and i dont see it
[14:53] <boris_> ???
[14:54] <tntCry> the only solution for him is to set the DNS and then lock the resolve.conf file so it will not change back to its router vrinek
[14:54] <boris_> ah it can
[14:54] <boris_> thanks
[14:54] <DG19075> boris: are you sure the floppy has something on it?
[14:54] <wols_> boris_: mount it
[14:54] <vrinek> tntcry, lock it with permissions (chmod?)
[14:55] <boris_> wols_ i opened it and i only see a file called "Shortcut to 3.5 Floppy (A).Ink
[14:55] <tntCry> vrinek, just tell him , to gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf and then delete whats theyr and put this nameserver 208.67.220.220
[14:55] <tntCry> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[14:55] <Jadd76> That's a windows problem boris_
[14:55] <boris_> ???
[14:56] <vrinek> one moment
[14:56] <Jadd76> You probably created a shorcut to the floppy, and then dragged and dropped that to wherever you thought you copied the floppy
[14:56] <tntCry> then wait
[14:56] <tntCry> vrinek, let him lock it after doing it and saving it let him close terminal and open again and type this sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[14:56] <Sisco> i turned off and turned my machine back on
[14:56] <Sisco> how do i start up the torrent client
[14:56] <tntCry> after that :) hes good to go vrinek
[14:56] <Sisco> thats built in ubuntu
[14:57] <boris_> jadd76 : a friend (using windows) gave it to me and asked me if i can copy it to CD
[14:57] <Jadd76> Yeah, tell him to copy all the files inside the floppy, not create a shorcut to the floppy
[14:57] <tntCry> vrinek, i gtg soon...
[14:57] <Sisco> help??
[14:58] <Jadd76> It's not windows' fault, your friend just didn't know how to use it
[14:58] <Sisco> how do i startup the torrent client thats built in ubuntu
[14:58] <vrinek> tntcry, im telling him over the phone, thx for the help so far
[14:58] <tntCry> vrinek, but remember he have to only type the 2 dns ip's i have mentions ontop of each other , and then after saving it open terminal again and type gksudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[14:59] <vrinek> ok
[14:59] <tntCry> it will work vrinek  , because i know hes issue :) good luck
[14:59] <Jadd76> Hey, does anybody know how to make a window transparent using compiz fusion?
[15:00] <tntCry> Jadd76, choose the window you want to make transparent then hold ALT then use your mousewheel :)
[15:00] <apfelfred> hi^^
[15:00] <vrinek> ok, trying it now
[15:00] <rojo^> !help
[15:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:00] <Jadd76> Hey thanks tntCry!
[15:00] <Sisco> how do i startup the torrent client thats built in ubuntu
[15:00] <Jadd76> Which plug-in does that transparency?
[15:00] <Hamlet> can someone help me with a NFS-shares-realted issue, please?
[15:01] <Sisco> how do i startup the torrent client thats built in ubuntu??
[15:01] <rojo^> !search *torrent*
[15:01] <tntCry> Sisco, get one :)
[15:01] <Sisco> It has one built in
[15:01] <Sisco> my download is 50%+ done
[15:01] <Sisco> and i restarted
[15:01] <ubotu> Found:
[15:01] <tntCry> o
[15:01] <Sisco> i need to open it so it will resume
[15:02] <void^> Sisco: start the torrent file, i guess
[15:02] <akincer> Sisco: Double click on the original torrent file to open it
[15:02] <Sisco> i didnt save
[15:02] <Sisco> just open
[15:02] <Sisco> off the sitwe
[15:03] <akincer> Sisco: It should have put the torrent file wherever you selected to save the finished download. Pretty sure that is how it works
[15:03] <tntCry> Jadd76, the transparency is something normal , not a plugin , but plugins are for major effects , transparency is i guess some numeric data that produces that output and its emerged through compiz which makes the translation easier for people to use :) maybe i hope thats clear
[15:03] <Sisco> ok ty
[15:03] <purplecow> why don't I get window decorations on my second monitor with twinview and compiz?
[15:03] <jason__> I am using gOS on an old PC, I am getting there, very new to linux. I have just got rhythm box to play some live streams, but what do I do to play a listen again episode that uses realplayer streaming, any ideas? anyone :)
[15:03] <Hamlet> What reasons may there be for NFS-shares not working under Ubuntu?
[15:03] <Jadd76> tntCry, So it's under general options if I wanted to change to the shorcut? (the transparency stuff)
[15:04] <tntCry> ya
[15:04] <dm> Hello. I want to normalize an mp3 audio file losslessly. Can you reccommend a tool for this task?
[15:04] <tntCry> im off guys
[15:04] <Jadd76> tntCry, never mind, I found it under general options
[15:04] <Jadd76> Thanks everyone!
[15:04] <profanephobia> dm, soundKonverter
[15:05] <profanephobia> dm, or k3b
[15:05] <Hamlet> hello?!
[15:05] <akincer> Hamlet: That is quite an ambiguous question
[15:05] <Hamlet> sorry
[15:06] <Sisco> how do run something in high priority
[15:06] <Sisco> in linux
[15:06] <Sisco> or is there such thing?
[15:06] <Sisco> in ubuntu
[15:06] <Sisco> *
[15:06] <LjL> Sisco: man nice
[15:06] <Hamlet> the thing is, I set up a NFS share
[15:06] <Hamlet> at least I thought so
[15:06] <akincer> Hamlet: On what? Is this a different machine?
[15:06] <Hamlet> but my Linux-Set-top Box doesn't recognise it
[15:07] <akincer> Hamlet: Is there a reason you wouldn't use cifs?
[15:07] <Hamlet> do I have to enable some kind of Server-capacity in Ubuntu?
[15:07] <Hamlet> for NFS shares I mean
[15:07] <Hamlet> uhmm
[15:08] <akincer> Hamlet: First--explain your setup a bit more clear
[15:08] <Hamlet> no
[15:08] <Hamlet> why should I?
[15:08] <JerekDain> heh, sounds like I walked in on something interesting
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter | hamlet
[15:08] <ubotu> hamlet: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:09] <jarryd> l
[15:09] <DerDui> hi
[15:10] <mrtimdog> Is there a recent bluetooth headset howto anyone knows of?
[15:10] <dm> profanephobia: Thank you. But isn't there a tiny command line tool that doesn't need a full X server running that can do this?
[15:10] <DerDui> ist there anybody who speaks german?
[15:10] <JerekDain> anyone know of any issues getting an ATI Radeon x1300 to work on Ubuntu? I can only get it to work in generic vesa mode.
[15:10] <dm> !de | DerDui
[15:10] <ubotu> DerDui: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:10] <DerDui> !de
[15:10] <profanephobia> dm, of course... i just cant remember the name.. sry :(
[15:10] <ubernewb> halo, i'm needing some help configuring dhcp.  I've been up all night trying to find a way to update the resolv.conf with my "special dns"
[15:11] <LiMaO> DerDui: just read what ubotu said
[15:11] <ubernewb> i'm not talking about a dhcpserver setup
[15:11] <threefcata> anybody connected a ubuntu box to a xp box using ad hoc wireless?
[15:11] <DerDui> ok, how to change the chanal?
[15:11] <ArabEyes> hi , how can i do a filesystem scan , to repair some block errors
[15:11] <ubernewb> my modem keeps pushing a new dns on my computer every 5 min and it nocks me off a dns server
[15:11] <threefcata> need help here.
[15:12] <dm> DerDui: Type "/join #ubuntu-de" for example.
[15:12] <DrJohnston> Can anyone help explain why i can ssh as root to domain.com but i can't ssh as a normal user?
[15:12] <DerDui> thank you
[15:12] <robi1> hi! does anyone know how I can reduce the trip point in the thermal zone of my laptop, so that it starts scaling down the cpu earlier?
[15:12] <ubernewb> i'd just like to push my "special dns" when the resolv.conf gets updated
[15:12] <RoBz18> Is anyone here familiar with the process of installing ubuntu onto a USB drive?
[15:12] <The_Machine> RIDDLE me this, O fans of Linux!  What's the point of having a 'stable OS that no app can crash" if a K3B screwup requires me to reboot my computer in order to have my DVDRW drive not possessed and flashing any more?
[15:13] <The_Machine> (not a rhetorical question)
[15:13] <DrJohnston> Can anyone help explain why i can ssh as root to domain.com but i can't ssh as a normal user?
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> JerekDain: I cant tell you what works on the ati but I can strongly suggest that you avoid installation scripts like automatix or envy. THey do things that you really dont want to have done and the odds are it still wont work
[15:13] <DrJohnston> the connection just doesn't work
[15:13] <ubernewb> The_machine.. have you tried using any program to burn other than k3b?
[15:13] <dm> DrJohnston: Maybe
[15:13] <dm> DrJohnston: Maybe
[15:14] <The_Machine> yea - and k3b normally works.
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> RoBz18: pendrivelinux.com  I think
[15:14] <DrJohnston> dm - care to help?
[15:14] <The_Machine> but it didn't this time, and i don't really want to reboot my computer - but the drive is possessed.
[15:14] <ubernewb> again my question, do you have these issues only with k3b or when ever you attempt to burn
[15:14] <The_Machine> won't stop "burning" even though it isn't burning.
[15:14] <RoBz18> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, having a problem with that
[15:14] <ubernewb> you cannot umount the drive, did you look to see what is possessing it?
[15:15] <The_Machine> my answer "yes, i have been able to burn successfully outside of k3b.  And i haven't had a problem with k3b in the past, for the most part"
[15:15] <The_Machine> hmm
[15:15] <RoBz18> If you go here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ step 17, terminal just tells me that there is no such directory as media/ubuntu710
[15:15] <The_Machine> ubernewb, k3b is possessing it.
[15:15] <The_Machine> let me try to unmount the drive.
[15:15] <ubernewb> pgrep k3b?
[15:15] <akincer> Drjohnston: You should be able to ssh into an Ubuntu box using a non-root user
[15:15] <ubernewb> pkill k3b
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> RoBz18: That is the site I used to create my 4 gig install.
[15:15] <DrJohnston> akincer
[15:15] <DrJohnston> I'm trying to SSH OUT to a remote box actually
[15:15] <Ximal> what's the command to remove a directory please ?
[15:15] <RoBz18> Jack_Sparrow: Did you use 7.10?
[15:15] <The_Machine> ubernewb, it was killed already
[15:15] <JerekDain> Jack_Sparrow: np, if I run out of options I'll get my coworker to fix it. :P he's very good with linux systems, but he's not in until later, and I was hoping to get things up and running. At the least this 800x600 resolution on a decent widescreen monitor is driving me nuts. >_<
[15:15] <The_Machine> drive still flashing
[15:15] <DrJohnston> I can do this as root, but as a normal user the conection won't work
[15:15] <ubernewb> wierd....
[15:16] <ubernewb> did you look up the make and model of your burner?
[15:16] <akincer> DrJohnston, make sure you use this format #ssh remoteusername@IP.address.of.remote.machine
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> JerekDain: You should be able to set driver for vesa and get 1024 for now
[15:16] <Hamlet> @akincer: did you get my messages?
[15:16] <robi1> hi! does anyone know how I can reduce the trip point in the thermal zone of my laptop, so that it starts scaling down the cpu earlier?
[15:16] <The_Machine> ubernewb, it isn't the burner.  i've had this happen on other linux distros and apps too.
[15:16] <akincer> DrJohnston: By default, ssh will attempt to use the envoking username on the remote machine
[15:16] <akincer> Hamlet: No
[15:16] <The_Machine> brb, tryingto figure out how to unmount this CD drive
[15:16] <Ximal> anyone ?
[15:17] <Ximal> is it sudo rm ? i forget
[15:17] <JerekDain> it's set as just standard vesa right now (it prompts on each gui boot). how can play with the settings without rebooting?
[15:17] <ubernewb> ok so you have only eliminated that it is not linux... not the burner
[15:17] <DrJohnston> akincer - i am trying this format for both root and the user....  ssh root@domain.com
[15:17] <Hamlet> akincer: I send them as private messages
[15:17] <Ximal> !remove directory
[15:17] <JerekDain> pretend that has Jack_Sparrow: at the begining :P
[15:17] <DrJohnston> actually
[15:17] <ubernewb> or is it the burner and not linux
[15:17] <DrJohnston> i have an idea
[15:17] <Hamlet> @akincer: anyway here they are again
[15:17] <The_Machine> ubernewb, it's linux related - it isn't a hardware problem.  brb.
[15:17] <The_Machine> :)
[15:18] <robi1> does anyone have an idea? i need to reduce the trip point in the thermal zone of my laptop, so that it starts scaling down the cpu earlier?
[15:18] <Hamlet> @akincer: I have an Ubuntu-machine and a Linux set-top box both connected by a router using DHCP
[15:18] <akincer> Hamlet: If you aren't registered, I don't think you can send private messages
[15:19] <Hamlet> @akincer: sorry, I didn't know that
[15:19] <ubernewb> ok so my issue... how do i get my nameserver x.x.x.x to get repopulated in the resolv.conf when my modem pushes dns in my computer?
[15:20] <dm> Hello. I want to normalize an mp3 audio file losslessly. Can you reccommend a (tiny cmd line) tool for this task?
[15:20] <ubernewb> i have extra nameservers not standard to my ISP
[15:20] <corruptionoflulz> why does ubuntu's copying and pasting suck so much?
[15:20] <Hamlet> @akincer: the thing is, I cannot access my NFS shares (shared from the Ubuntu-machine) on the set-top box
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> JerekDain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ... should let you add your max res without having to go through all of the config.
[15:21] <Hamlet> @akincer: do you have any idea why that is?
[15:21] <akincer> Hamlet: Not knowing specifics about the set-top box is a little limiting
[15:21] <s> hi
[15:21] <s> help please
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> corruptionoflulz:  NOt a good way to open if you are here for help
[15:21] <Sisco> what u need help with
[15:21] <Hamlet> @akincer: it's a Linux box
[15:22] <corruptionoflulz> Jack_Sparrow: it was more like me thinking outloud, sorry.
[15:22] <Hamlet> @akincer: what specifics do you want to know?
[15:22] <akincer> DrJohnston: Are you sure there aren't some settings in the sshd_config on the remote machine that would prevent you from getting in with a non-root user?
[15:23] <akincer> Huh, just left
[15:23] <bezibaerchen> akincer: he's left 2 mins ago :-)
[15:23] <akincer> It's "just" from my POV :)
[15:23] <Hamlet> @akincer: look here http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/english/products_dm7025_technical.php
[15:24] <JerekDain> Jack_Sparrow: tried what you said, i chose vesa, and it didn't do a lot... do i need to restart something? it also said "FATAL: Error inserting battery"
[15:24] <akincer> Hamlet: What error messages are you getting on your set top box? Are you seeing anything in your logs on your Ubuntu Machine?
[15:24] <Hamlet> @akincer: no errors, just no share found
[15:25] <Hamlet> @akincer: what logs? where ?
[15:25] <akincer> For example /var/log/auth.log
[15:25] <akincer> Hamlet: But you aren't getting that far
[15:26] <Hamlet> @akincer: how do you mean?
[15:26] <akincer> Hamlet: Check out this page that might provide you some help -- http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/topic/com.ibm.aix.commadmn/doc/commadmndita/nfs_checklist.htm
[15:26] <JerekDain> what's a good music player that can read my mp3 files? apparently Rythmbox can't, which is odd... should i get an mp3 plugin for it, or get a different program?
[15:26] <pike__> ive created a virtualfs on a file in my ubuntu partition now im wondering if there is a better way to mount it at boot and do the losetup than editing skeleton file in init.d
[15:27] <Hamlet> @akincer: ok I'll have a look at it
[15:27] <unperson> Hi.  I'm wondering if I have two ubuntu computers on my LAN, is there an easy way to use one as basically nothing more than a display for the other?  Meaning, can I somehow login to a desktop session on the "remote" machine (still on my LAN) using the other machine?
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> JerekDain: only a guess, but I would think your refresh rates for your monitor are not in your xorg
[15:27] <Frederick> folks can I have some help with this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3856124#post3856124
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> JerekDain: have you tried dropping back on the color depth...16 perhaps
[15:28] <akincer> Hamlet: There is likely some setting somewhere that just doesn't match up. Follow the instructions there and you should be ok
[15:28] <Dr_willis> unperson,  simple way.. ssh -Y otherbox, and run your apps.
[15:28] <unperson> I know about using ssh and X forwarding to login to a remote machine and use remote applications, but I don't know if it's possible to have basically a whole remote desktop session.
[15:28] <Dr_willis> unperson,  a little harder way. enable/use the XDMCP feature of X.
[15:28] <RoBz18> Jack_Sparrow: Did you install 7.10 onto your USB?
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> RoBz18: yes.
[15:28] <Dr_willis> unperson,  if you want the whole desktop. kde/gnome has a vnc desktop sharing feature (but it can be a bit slow)
[15:29] <Hamlet> @akincer: ok, thank you :-)
[15:29] <JerekDain> Jack_Sparrow: where do i change color depth? i don't see anything for it
[15:29] <unperson> Dr_willis, Right, I know about ssh and X forwarding, but that's not quite what I'm after.  I'm looking to make it basically so that one you're logged in you're working on the remote machine completely with no sign that it's not the local machine.
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> RoBz18: you may have a wrong drive designation sd"x"  in that list of commands
[15:29] <unperson> Dr_willis, I see.  Thanks.
[15:29] <Dr_willis> unperson,  you just described 'xdmcp' :)
[15:30] <Ax-Ax> which is the latest kernel ?
[15:30] <Dr_willis> unperson,  in the sessions menus for kdm/gnome theres a  Search for hosts, or query hosts, type feature that can be enabled.
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> JerekDain: gksudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf        and look for default depth.. sorry if I am a bit out of it this am.. trying to get things done and run to work...
[15:30] <Dr_willis> unperson,  however that can get a big laggy if you start doing copying big files over the network.
[15:30] <RoBz18> Jack_Sparrow: When I type this: cp -rf casper disctree dists install pics pool preseed .disk isolinux/* md5sum.txt README.diskdefines ubuntu.ico casper/vmlinuz casper/initrd.gz /media/ubuntu710/ , it says media/ubuntu710 is not a directory, ever get that problem?
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[15:31] <Dr_willis> unperson,  the 'vncserver' method would let you have a presistant desktop on eht remove machine
[15:31] <RoBz18> Should I just make the directory?
[15:31] <unperson> Dr_willis, Ok, cool.  I thought XDMCP might be what I was looking for, but I wasn't sure.  Most of the descriptions of it I've seen talk about the technical details rather than giving a concise description of what it does.
[15:31] <Lunar_Lamp> I want to add a custom session to the list of sessions in gdm - how do I do that?
[15:32] <Dr_willis> unperson,  using xdmcp and 'xming' in my windows machiens to get a X desktop on them. :)
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> RoBz18: if you dont get it by the time I get back I will bring it up again and try to see where it is going wrong
[15:32] <RoBz18> Ok thanks.
[15:33] <unperson> Dr_willis, I don't understand the comment about copying large files.  I was thinking that all operations (say moving files) would be performed on the remote machine.  Or are you just talking about display information?
[15:33] <gradin> yey
[15:34] <_nix_> hello everyone.. anyone running bittorrent here?
[15:34] <ubernewb> hello, need some help with /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf  anybody know how to push a nameserver to resolv.conf when ever you get a new ip pushed?
[15:34] <gradin> _nix_: nope...
[15:34] <gradin> :P
[15:35] <s_spiff> guys need some help with AWN.. here or some other channel?
[15:35] <genii> ubernewb: require line in there
[15:35] <ubernewb> require...
[15:35] <JerekDain> Jack_Sparrow: default depth is 24. and no problem, thanks a lot for the help. :)
[15:35] <Dr_willis> unperson,  if a lot of network traffic happens it can lag your display.
[15:36] <genii> ubernewb: eg: require subnet-mask, domain-name-servers;
[15:36] <Dr_willis> unperson,  the normal use for xdmcp is to let a few dozen+ thin clients have a  'server' they all are using.,
[15:36] <_nix_> ubernewb: append the following line: prepend domain-name-servers <nameserver>
[15:36] <s_spiff> !awn
[15:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:36] <xactly> hello
[15:36] <_nix_> ubernewb: that's it
[15:36] <genii> ubernewb: Under the "request" stanza
[15:36] <s_spiff> guys, can AWN be placed at the sides of the screen instead of the bottom?
[15:37] <ubernewb> ok, so there is a request and require
[15:37] <profanephobia> so what allows me to change gutsy's compiz theme?
[15:37] <_nix_> anyone running bittorrent here?
[15:37] <MasterShrek> yes
[15:38] <genii> ubernewb: Yes, "require" should be under the "request" one
[15:38] <Dr_willis> s_spiff,  i found awnt i be very lacking in a lot of ways. :(
[15:38] <erUSUL> _nix_: client?
[15:38] <MasterShrek> profanephobia, emerald theme manager
[15:38] <_nix_> Ktorrent
[15:38] <_nix_> MasterShrek: w/ DHT enabled?
[15:38] <erUSUL> _nix_: i use deluge-torrent what is the actual problem?
[15:38] <MasterShrek> erUSUL, whats the difference between a bittorrent client and server? =P
[15:38] <s_spiff> Dr_willis, is there any other substitute? kiba dock is there, I'm just about to install it
[15:38] <MasterShrek> _nix_, not usually
[15:39] <_nix_> erUSUL: no problem.. just interested in DHT table exchange..
[15:39] <erUSUL> MasterShrek: well i asked becouse i've never created a torrent or hosted a tracker
[15:39] <Dr_willis> s_spiff,  no idea. I dont care for the OS-X wannabes or OS-X for that matter. :) give me a nice normal panel.
[15:39] <slliness> what would I have done to make compiz-fusion stop working on gutsy
[15:39] <erUSUL> MasterShrek: that's what a "server" would do i guess
[15:39] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks
[15:39] <slliness> haven't really dome anything except updates
[15:39] <MasterShrek> erUSUL, i spose, but i dont really see the difference, once you start a torrent you are a client and a server
[15:39] <ubernewb> and ok, so #require domain-name-servers and in the line that says prepend domain-name-servers put my "special nameserver"?
[15:39] <erUSUL> MasterShrek: true
[15:40] <s_spiff> Dr_willis, lol. sorry I asked. anyone else here can help out?
[15:40] <unperson> Dr_willis, I see.  Well in my case it would just be 1 computer, so that won't be an issue.
[15:40] <unperson> Dr_willis, Thanks for you help.  I'm going to give it a try.
[15:40] <MasterShrek> those floodbots annoy me
[15:40] <jens> question: If I install ubuntu 6.06.1 server on my  desktop pc, and after installation I install xubuntu-desktop; how long do I get security updates?
[15:41] <LjL> you probably annoy them, don't worry
[15:41] <Assassin5> I've got ubuntu studio setup on a laptop and I want to plug midi control into Would a USB Midi cable work okay with ubuntu?
[15:41] <Dr_willis> unperson, i just got it set with a 2 pc setup. :) but wheni go copying some iso files from the basement to up here (for me to burn) it can lag my display a little.
[15:41] <jens> the server install get's 5 years; but do the packages in xubuntu-desktop get them? I guess not?
[15:41] <erUSUL> MasterShrek: yeah me too... but they are not going away anytime soon afaics
[15:41] <MasterShrek> jens, however long 6.06 is supported, a couple more years i spose
[15:41] <xactly> i have Ubuntu 7.10... i have just bought an MP3 player... when i plug the device in my USB slot, nothing happens... i've got an installation CD with the MP3 player's software to transfer music and stuff on it but this installation only work on a Windows operating system... is there any way i can transfer music to my MP3 player on Ubuntu?
[15:41] <profanephobia> MasterShrek, do you know the package name?
[15:41] <rockprincess> jens: maybe till the next LTS comes out?
[15:41] <MasterShrek> yea i know erUSUL, stupid script kiddies thinkin they are cool shit flooding the ubuntu channel
[15:42] <AndrewB> !ohmy | MasterShrek
[15:42] <MasterShrek> profanephobia, for what?
[15:42] <slliness> like when I try to change emerald themes they do not change
[15:42] <jens> rockprincess, the question is; I know the server version get's 5year's of updates; but what if I install xubuntu-desktop on my server?
[15:42] <MasterShrek> yea yea i know AndrewB, i felt it would more accentuate my anger about it
[15:42] <matozoid> hi all, I have a 1GB flash drive but only 379Mb is available on a partition... the rest of the space is hidden.. Is there a way I can get 1 GB available?
[15:42] <xactly> i have this MP3 player:  http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1940)-SDMX4-4096-A70-Sansa_e260_MP3_Player_4GB.aspx
[15:42] <ubotu> MasterShrek: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[15:42] <AndrewB> ;)
[15:42] <MasterShrek> =P
[15:42] <slliness> tried compiz --replace
[15:42] <damaltor> nd
[15:42] <xactly> please help
[15:43] <MasterShrek> profanephobia, oh, emerald...umm i dunno, search synaptic for emerald
[15:43] <AndrewB> matozoid: will need to parition it with an application like fdisk or cfdisk or take a look at gui app called gparted
[15:43] <xactly> there's no Linux installation software for my MP3 player so i'm kinda stuck
[15:43] <genii> ubernewb: Please put my name in a message when it is for me, otherwise I miss it :)
[15:44] <matozoid> AndrewB: tried to use the 3 of em, put could not clear the partition table
[15:44] <AndrewB> xactly: does it not show up as a usb device?
[15:44] <AndrewB> matozoid: did you run them as root?
[15:44] <xactly> AndrewB, no
[15:44] <MasterShrek> xactly, what kind of software do you need? mostly i just mount the mp3 player and move files to it (make sure you unmount it before you unplug it)
[15:44] <erUSUL> xactly: is it no recognized as a standar usb-storage device?
[15:44] <matozoid> AndrewB: sudo, yes
[15:44] <rockprincess> jens: i'm not sure, but i think it shouldn't matter whether you install the xubuntu desktop or not....the security updates will be probably available no matter if you're using XFCE4 or Gnome or KDE??
[15:44] <xactly> actually it is not recognised at all
[15:44] <AndrewB> matozoid: what error?
[15:44] <MasterShrek> xactly, lsusb doesnt list it?
[15:44] <jpass> I am having some issues with SARG (squid reports) after an upgrade to SARG 2.1 - is there a known issue with this?
[15:44] <xactly> when i plugged it in, it started to charge the battery
[15:45] <MasterShrek> dmesg doesnt say anything about it when you plug it in?
[15:45] <xactly> that is all
[15:45] <Hamlet> akincer: this documentationis for another OS
[15:45] <xactly> Ubuntu did not recognise a plugged in device
[15:45] <albech> does anyone know of an alternative (same tech.) to DSPAM?
[15:45] <Lunks> I know this is a pretty unusual question, but can I install Gutsy using my Feisty CD?
[15:45] <MasterShrek> xactly, type dmesg after you plug it in
[15:45] <erUSUL> xactly: ? do 'tail -f /var/log/messages' while you plug it and check the msgs posted
[15:45] <Hamlet> xactly, what brand is it?
[15:45] <genii> ubernewb: If you currently have a # in front of the "require" line it will not take effect. If you want to specify a nameserver the prepend, yes
[15:45] <matozoid> AndrewB: no error
[15:45] <Beryllium> okay, seriously, php5-cli gets updated, and it STILL doesn't have readline() support? How do I get readline() support in php5 in Ubuntu?
[15:46] <xactly> Hamlet, this brand:    http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1940)-SDMX4-4096-A70-Sansa_e260_MP3_Player_4GB.aspx
[15:46] <ubernewb> ah
[15:46] <MasterShrek> Lunks, you can install feisty and then upgrade to gutsy
[15:46] <Dr_willis> Lunks,  you couldinstall then upgrade.. but it would be faster to just grab a gusty cd.
[15:46] <syndr0> hello all
[15:46] <matozoid> AndrewB: the partition shows up as 379Mb on gparted
[15:46] <MasterShrek> Lunks, better off downloading a gutsy cd tho
[15:46] <jens> rockprincess, why is there a difference between the lenght of support for ubuntu server and xubuntu f.ex? They use the same repositories don't they?
[15:46] <dgjones> Lunks, yes you can install Feisty and then upgrade to Gutsy if the computer is connected to the internet
[15:46] <xactly> Sansa E260
[15:46] <AndrewB> matozoid: did you delete it then make a new one of 1G?
[15:46] <Lunks> But I dont have a spare CD to burn Gutsy ISO.
[15:46] <erUSUL> Lunks: install feisty and then upgrade ?
[15:46] <jens> so if server get's updates; so does xubuntu?
[15:46] <Hamlet> hmm
[15:46] <Lunks> I'd like to install it directly
[15:46] <Hamlet> strange
[15:47] <Lunks> I've tried unetbootin, but its freezin
[15:47] <syndr0> can anyone help me ?
[15:47] <xactly> any proposals?
[15:47] <syndr0> thats not busy....
[15:47] <erUSUL> !anyone
[15:47] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:47] <matozoid> AndrewB: when I delete it I get only 379Mb of space.. no other partition is shown
[15:47] <MasterShrek> !someone | syndr0
[15:47] <ubotu> syndr0: please see above
[15:47] <syndr0> ?
[15:47] <dgjones> !install | Lunks, This may give you some alternatives to installing from an iso burned to a cd
[15:47] <ubotu> Lunks, This may give you some alternatives to installing from an iso burned to a cd: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:47] <Dr_willis> Lunks,  you will basicially be redoanloading it then . and then dealing with any upgrade issues.. Id say wait till you can find an blank cd. OR try the net/iso installs.
[15:47] <syndr0> first time user on ubuntu
[15:47] <MasterShrek> syndr0, just ask your question
[15:47] <AndrewB> matozoid: maybe a problem with the usb stick then..
[15:47] <syndr0> and using this irc client
[15:47] <genii> ubernewb: Also you can use "default domain-name-servers <specific name here>"
[15:47] <syndr0> ok
[15:47] <Dr_willis> !install Lunks
[15:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install lunks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:47] <Beryllium> syndr0: Ask your question. Don't ask to ask. :) That's all they're saying
[15:47] <syndr0> sry...
[15:47] <MasterShrek> :)
[15:47] <Dr_willis> !install |  Lunks
[15:47] <ubotu> Lunks: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:47] <syndr0> ok
[15:47] <syndr0> lol
[15:47] <syndr0> ty
[15:47] <rockprincess> jens: to be honest, i have no idea....i haven't used the ubuntu server as yet.....but i'm guessing since it's LTS you'll get updates till the next LTS comes out.....but you should ask someone with more knowledge about it...
[15:47] <syndr0> anywhoo
[15:48] <Lunks> Thanks =D
[15:48] <syndr0> ok so i had my hd in 3 partitions
[15:48] <MasterShrek> !enter
[15:48] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:48] <matozoid> AndrewB: Maybe, thanks for the help :)
[15:48] <syndr0> i dedicated one to ubuntu
[15:48] <syndr0> fs is reiserfs
[15:48] <jens> rockprincess, no, it get's 5years of updates; but I'll ask someone else :)
[15:48] <xactly> MasterShrek, the lsusb does list it
[15:48] <syndr0> but i cant see my two ntfs partitions
[15:48] <Assassin5> Do USB Midi cables work with ubuntu studio?
[15:48] <syndr0> which has my music on it
[15:48] <syndr0> etc
[15:48] <erUSUL> !ntfs | syndr0
[15:48] <ubotu> syndr0: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[15:48] <MasterShrek> xactly, ls /dev/sd* what devices get listed?
[15:48] <jpass> i am having an issue with SARG after an upgrade - is this a known issue? error:sarg -l /var/log/squid/access.log -d 04/12/2007-05/12/2007
[15:48] <jpass> SARG: (html11) Cannot open file: /var/www/squid-reports/2007Dec04-2007Dec05/users
[15:49] <syndr0> thank you... looking....
[15:49] <monkeyBox> I just installed network-manager-pptp, but the VPN option is not showing in my network manager applet.  What's wrong?
[15:49] <Assassin5> !midi
[15:49] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[15:49] <syndr0> oh i see
[15:49] <syndr0> it has to be mounted huh
[15:49] <MasterShrek> yeap
[15:49] <syndr0> ::reads more to learn how to mount::
[15:49] <syndr0> man this ubuntu is beatiful
[15:49] <syndr0> my windows 2k was POS!
[15:49] <syndr0> it finally crashed after like 5 years of running nonstop
[15:50] <syndr0> lol stupid BSOD
[15:50] <xactly> MasterShrek,  ls /dev/sd* gives me this annoying answer:    ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[15:50] <RoBz18> Installing ubuntu to a USB stick, does anything look wrong with this command?: cp -rf casper disctree dists install pics pool preseed .disk isolinux/* md5sum.txt README.diskdefines ubuntu.ico casper/vmlinuz casper/initrd.gz /media/ubuntu710/
[15:50] <RoBz18> I just get: cp: target `/media/ubuntu710/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[15:50] <RoBz18> Go you guys think I could just create the directory?
[15:50] <MasterShrek> xactly, hmm, it shoulda given you devices for it...
[15:50] <xactly> MasterShrek, i know... strange huh?
[15:51] <giulio> #ubuntu-it
[15:51] <syndr0> how can i view the info on ubuntu like what version it is
[15:51] <MasterShrek> xactly, hd* i spose only gives you your hard drives...
[15:51] <MasterShrek> syndr0, type in a terminal: lsb-release -a
[15:52] <genii> MasterShrek: underbar not hyphen
[15:52] <syndr0> lsb-release -a
[15:52] <syndr0> ok
[15:52] <jaek> does the compiz in gusty run on the restricted ati driver?
[15:52] <syndr0> mind explaining what that command means
[15:52] <MasterShrek> oh
[15:52] <syndr0> just so i can get a better knowledge of the cmds
[15:52] <MasterShrek> syndr0, its lsb_release -a
[15:52] <syndr0> i understand that
[15:52] <xactly> MasterShrek,  ls /dev/hd* gives me this answer:    /dev/hda  /dev/hda1  /dev/hda2  /dev/hda5  /dev/hdc  /dev/hdd
[15:52] <erUSUL> jaek: with xserver-xgl yes
[15:52] <MasterShrek> xactly, it could possibly be hdd, you only have one hard drive in that machine?
[15:52] <chrisg> -/win 22
[15:52] <jaek> erUSUL, sooo, got to use a hack windowing system to use it?
[15:52] <syndr0> cmd not found
[15:53] <xactly> MasterShrek, yes i have just one hard drive in my machine
[15:53] <MasterShrek> xactly, try to mount /dev/hdd
[15:53] <erUSUL> jaek: yes you need a special xserver to use afaik
[15:53] <xactly> MasterShrek, ok
[15:53] <erUSUL> jaek: to use it*
[15:53] <erUSUL> jaek: all your thanks and comments to AMD (know owner of ATI)
[15:54] <aata> hello all :)
[15:54] <erUSUL> !hi
[15:54] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[15:54] <xactly> MasterShrek,  mount /dev/hdd    gives me this --> mount: No medium found
[15:54] <MasterShrek> syndr0, try it with a hyphen lsb-release
[15:54] <MasterShrek> argh
[15:54] <aata> can anyone tell me why my gutsy doesnt connect to my wireless network automatically on startup?
[15:55] <erUSUL> xactly: probably hdd is your optical drive
[15:55] <MasterShrek> xactly, then try hdc
[15:55] <Frederick> folks can I have some help with this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3856124#post3856124
[15:55] <syndr0> neg
[15:55] <xactly> MasterShrek, ok
[15:55] <syndr0> cmd not found
[15:55] <aata> anyone?
[15:55] <MasterShrek> syndr0, umm, this would be much easier if i was running ubuntu =P
[15:55] <syndr0> lol
[15:55] <syndr0> its cooll
[15:55] <syndr0> not a big deal
[15:56] <syndr0> thanks for you patience and help tho
[15:56] <MasterShrek> syndr0, try: cat /etc/lsb_release  or: cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:56] <Sisco> LOL
[15:56] <Sisco> TYPO
[15:56] <Sisco> on the system monitor
[15:56] <Sisco> "User memory"
[15:56] <Sisco> suppose to be used memory
[15:56] <Sisco> right?
[15:56] <xactly> MasterShrek, the command  mount /dev/hdc  gives me this:
[15:56] <xactly> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[15:56] <xactly> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[15:56] <xactly> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom0
[15:56] <syndr0> man its hard to highligh text with people chatting ROFL
[15:56] <xzased> Hi, I have a question. Im setting up a mail server on a xubuntu pc. The computer name is tester
[15:56] <erUSUL> syndr0: still trying to mount ntfs partitions? install ntfs-config and use it is a simple GUI program
[15:56] <DOOM_NX> guys, how to i change server?
[15:56] <MasterShrek> xactly, then hdc is your cdrom, im almost positive hdd is your mp3 player, but i dont really know how you would mount it
[15:57] <syndr0> worked with hyphen
[15:57] <xzased> Do I need to change it to mail.whatevermydomainis.com?
[15:57] <aata> hello hello!
[15:57] <DOOM_NX> i am using xchat
[15:57] <syndr0> yeah im install ntfs config now
[15:57] <syndr0> ty
[15:57] <MasterShrek> DOOM_NX, /server <server address>
[15:57] <DOOM_NX> thanks
[15:57] <aata> can anyone help me out with the not automatically connecting to wlan on startup?
[15:57] <DOOM_NX> sorry for that, i entered automatically
[15:57] <dgjones> DOOM_NX, or select the XChat tab and find the server list
[15:58] <DOOM_NX> thanks a lot
[15:58] <xactly> MasterShrek, why did no icon appear in the Computer window when i plugged the device in? do i have to set some settings maybe?
[15:58] <xzased> aata: Go to network on applications - system
[15:58] <fisiopro> ciao
[15:58] <fisiopro> !list
[15:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:58] <erUSUL> DOOM_NX: also Crtl+S should brin up the Servers List
[15:58] <aata> ok xzased... then what?
[15:58] <xzased> then check on your wireless (ath0 in my case)
[15:58] <MasterShrek> xactly, i think it only shows up on the desktop if its mounted, and in computer if its mountable
[15:58] <xactly> MasterShrek, i see
[15:58] <xzased> and go to properties
[15:58] <xactly> MasterShrek, so i am stuck?
[15:59] <MasterShrek> xactly, for the moment, have you searched the forums?
[15:59] <MasterShrek> !forums
[15:59] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[15:59] <xzased> and check the enable at startup box
[15:59] <xactly> MasterShrek, what can i type in the search bar? what keywords?
[16:00] <MasterShrek> put the make and model of your mp3 player
[16:00] <xactly> MasterShrek, ok
[16:00] <xzased> aata: are u using ubuntu or another version? (like xubuntu)
[16:01] <aata> no xzased ubuntu gutsy
[16:01] <xzased> oh, then that should work. Let me know if you have problems
[16:01] <monkeyBox> Does anyone here use network-manager-pptp?  I don't see the "VPN" option in nm-applet.
[16:02] <syndr0> hmmmm
[16:02] <syndr0> ok i download and installed the ntsconfig thing
[16:02] <syndr0> i tried using the script thing
[16:02] <aata> will try.
[16:02] <aata> thanks :)
[16:02] <syndr0> uhhh it said it ignored these two partitions
[16:02] <syndr0> idk
[16:02] <syndr0> ima just keep reading this stuff on the site
[16:03] <xactly> MasterShrek, is it possible my device is not recognized since i have the 'USB Mode' on my MP3 player set to 'MSP'??
[16:03] <Sisco> ubuntu is good for hacking
[16:03] <Sisco> in a VM
[16:03] <Sisco> then i can just do a DoD compliant erase of the VM hard drive
[16:03] <Sisco> and wha la
[16:03] <Sisco> no evidence
[16:03] <Sisco> LOL
[16:03] <xactly> MasterShrek, should it be set to 'MSC'?
[16:04] <hume> xactly, what kind of mp3 and what are you trying to do with it?
[16:04] <xactly> hume, i am trying to erase the default mp3s that are on my MP3 device now and add my own mp3s
[16:04] <hume> xactly, brand of the mp3?
[16:05] <MasterShrek> xactly, not sure the difference, definately worth a try, though
[16:05] <xactly> hume, what do you mean by a 'brand' of the mp3?
[16:05] <xactly> please be more specific
[16:06] <twocarlo> lol hello
[16:06] <hume> iPod? Iriver?
[16:06] <xactly> i am not a native so i appologize
[16:06] <xactly> oh that
[16:06] <hume> xactly, you must be native somewhere, don't you?..:)
[16:06] <jk__> anyone know if it's possible to block traffic in iptables based on a pattern, i.e. a url ?
[16:06] <xactly> my mp3 player is actually an MP4 player
[16:06] <twocarlo> brand like ipod,zune,lg
[16:06] <xactly> i plays music, video clips and displays pictures
[16:07] <xactly> the brand is Sansa
[16:07] <xactly> from SanDisk
[16:07] <xactly> hume, this brand:    http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1940)-SDMX4-4096-A70-Sansa_e260_MP3_Player_4GB.aspx
[16:07] <twocarlo> sandisk is a brand then sansa is the title of the product
[16:08] <xactly> okay so the brand is SanDisk
[16:08] <xactly> please check the link for more info
[16:08] <syndr0> man i cant seem to understand how to mount this
[16:08] <syndr0> and if i did mount it i dont know where to find it
[16:09] <xactly> i presume that my MP3 player is not supported by Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:09] <hume> you should set it to MSC, then it functions as a usb mass storage device
[16:09] <mofle> http://flickr.com/photos/mofle/2088197145/
[16:09] <xactly> i'll try that
[16:09] <Lunks> xactly: what are the usb types available?
[16:09] <void^> xactly: i have a sansa e250 (should be same as yours with 2gb instead of 4). works just fine.
[16:10] <hume> xactly,  and turns up on your desktop or in you file manager automatically, if you run gnome or kde
[16:10] <MasterShrek> xactly, try changing that usb mode thing, i bet it works
[16:10] <dgjones> xactly, http://www.expansys-kr.com/ft.aspx?k=89037 this suggests connecting in MSC mode (not ubuntu specific though)
[16:10] <xactly> void^, do you have the USB Mode on the player set to MSC or MSP?
[16:10] <hume> xactly, MTP is Media Transfer protocol, not soo well supported in linux
[16:10] <xactly> hume, aha!
[16:10] <hume> xactly you should set it to MSC
[16:10] <xactly> hume, thanks
[16:10] <hume> np
[16:10] <xactly> thanks a lot
[16:10] <Lunks> Amarok probably supports it, though. ?P
[16:10] <Lunks> :P
[16:11] <hume> Lunks, well..... suppport or "should support"?
[16:11] <void^> xactly: both work. it's simpler to use msc, you can just move and delete files on it. if you use mtp you need to use extra software to transfer files, music players like amarok support it.
[16:11] <hume> Lunks, does not support my iriver on msc....
[16:11] <syndr0> ok i think i mounted my other partitions but i dont know how i can view the files on them how do i do that?
[16:12] <xactly> void^, is the Rhythmbox sufficient for synchronising my mp3 player?
[16:12] <dissident> can someone please tell me how to dual boot with two hdd xp and linux
[16:12] <xactly> do i need some other software?
[16:12] <miked> is there a way to virtually "merge" the contents of two folders into one without copying or creating tons of softlinks?
[16:12] <dissident> cause part magic and boot magic won't work
[16:12] <void^> xactly: no idea, never used it. if it supports mtp it should work as well.
[16:12] <dissident> can i do this all in linux
[16:13] <syndr0> how do i view my other partitions that i think i mounted... key word being think.???
[16:13] <dissident> like in the install menu
[16:13] <zoli2k> Anyone using hamachi with ubuntu? I need help.
[16:13] <Lunks> hume: Should support, never used it with any MP3 players. I'd rather transfer files myself.
[16:13] <hume> syndr0, with df they should be listed
[16:13] <syndr0> df?
[16:13] <hume> Lunks, same here..
[16:14] <hume> syndr0, df -h shows size, type it in a console
[16:14] <hume> syndr0, of all mounted partitions on the machine
[16:14] <xactly> void^, i have bought a 1 Gig microSD memory card
[16:14] <syndr0> ok
[16:14] <syndr0> i see its not mounted then
[16:15] <xactly> void^, how do you transfer music to that memory card?
[16:15] <profanephobia> is there a  Network Manager Applet for AWN?
[16:15] <void^> xactly: might need to use msc mode to access it, should show up as an extra partition i think.. but not sure, i don't have any microsd cards
[16:15] <xactly> void^, is that done automatically after the players own space is consumed?
[16:15] <hume> xactly, dont know about syncing, I transfer via the file manager or with amarok music player
[16:15] <syndr0> hume, would you mine running me through this for some reason im retarded
[16:16] <hume> syndr0, join the club of us retarded...:) you trying to mount what?
[16:16] <syndr0> im trying to mount these two ntfs partitions
[16:16] <xactly> you have all been a great help
[16:16] <xactly> thank you all
[16:16] <xactly> be well
[16:16] <xactly> bye
[16:16] <syndr0> i tried following those directions
[16:16] <hume> bye
[16:16] <Lunks> cu
[16:16] <syndr0> but it didnt work
[16:16] <Lunks> syndr0: have you tried installing ntfs-3g tools?
[16:17] <Lunks> on add/remove
[16:17] <syndr0> i installed ntfs config throuh synaptic program
[16:17] <hume> syndr0, which directions? which partitions?
[16:17] <syndr0> ummmm
[16:17] <syndr0> how can i list all the partitions on my hd
[16:17] <syndr0> i dont know what they are defined as
[16:17] <steph_> Ugh
[16:17] <cj> what's the PGP key id for the gutsy archive?
[16:17] <Dr_willis> syndr0,  sudo fdisk -l
[16:17] <hume> try sudo cfdisk, then you can see all partitions on the disk - but beware to change someting
[16:18] <cj> how do I find it out without having to ask you folks?
[16:18] <syndr0> lunks, ntfs 3g tools is the same thing in synaptic program manager as ntfs config right?
[16:18] <Dr_willis> syndr0,  sudo fdisk -l   - is safe. :)
[16:18] <Beryllium> syndr0: I usually do it the geeky way: dmesg | grep sd, then I look for the lines like "sda1", "sda2"
[16:18] <Lunks> syndr0: yeah, it is
[16:18] <syndr0> thats what i thought
[16:18] <Lunks> what happens when you run it?
[16:18] <syndr0> all it did was ask me to make write properties
[16:18] <syndr0> for internal or ext
[16:18] <syndr0> and i did it for internal
[16:18] <Lunks> hmm
[16:19] <TitraxX> hi
[16:19] <threefcata> can anyone help me on wireless connection?
[16:19] <Brandon__> I don't want to mess this up. version 2.5.1 is the newest python. So I can do like sudo apt-get install pyton and it will get that version right? or do I specify the version like -2.5.1
[16:19] <aa> t
[16:19] <Lunks> syndr0: aren't they appearing on computer?
[16:19] <Lunks> places/computer
[16:19] <syndr0> they are defined as /dev/hda5 and 6
[16:19] <threefcata> connecting to xp using ad hoc, card is associated but not getting any ip, can anyone help me?
[16:20] <Lunks> syndr0: are they appearing on places/computer?
[16:20] <syndr0> lunks, /dev/hda5            1913        5991    32764536    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:20] <syndr0> /dev/hda6            5992       10010    32282586    7  HPFS/NTFS
[16:20] <syndr0> no
[16:20] <syndr0> appearing as what
[16:20] <syndr0> its own folder/ drive
[16:20] <Lunks> as drivers.
[16:20] <syndr0> just like file system right
[16:20] <Lunks> yeo
[16:20] <Lunks> yep
[16:21] <threefcata> connecting to xp using ad hoc, card is associated but not getting any ip, can anyone help me?
[16:21] <Lunks> If I remember correctly, I added support for internal volumes like you did, rebooted and tried again.
[16:21] <syndr0> soo should i reboot?
[16:21] <Lunks> syndr0: you can try
[16:21] <syndr0> lol
[16:21] <syndr0> ok
[16:21] <Lunks> It worked for me this way
[16:21] <syndr0> ok
[16:21] <syndr0> so i ran the ntfs config
[16:22] <syndr0> i tried that script thingy
[16:22] <syndr0> soima reboot
[16:22] <Lunks> enable everything
[16:22] <syndr0> ::crosses fingers::
[16:22] <syndr0> int and ext?
[16:22] <profanephobia> how do i get nm-applet back on the gnome panel
[16:22] <Lunks> yep
[16:22] <syndr0> ok
[16:22] <syndr0> ty
[16:22] <syndr0> ill brb
[16:22] <Lunks> then if it works, fine
[16:22] <Lunks> if not, open ntfs config and check if your partitions are there
[16:22] <Lunks> syndr0: good luck =)
[16:23] <syndr0> open ntfs config and check if my parts are there
[16:23] <syndr0> i dont understand
[16:23] <syndr0> how do i open ntfs config
[16:23] <syndr0> app>sys>ntfs config?
[16:23] <Lunks> syndr0: system tools/ntfs config
[16:23] <Dr_willis> sudo ntfs-config
[16:23] <david__> Your paste can be seen here: http://rafb.net/p/mL5kig92.html anyone get that wireless card working with ndiswrapper?
[16:23] <syndr0> the only thing that comes up is enabling writing
[16:23] <david__> and if so where you download the windows driver?
[16:23] <syndr0> should something else come up
[16:23] <syndr0> or is that whats supposed to come up
[16:23] <syndr0> or is it after i reboot that it will change?
[16:23] <Dr_willis> syndr0,  thats about it. :) its rather simple..
[16:23] <ttsmj> profanephobia: right click on panel> add to panel
[16:23] <Lunks> syndr0: there has been a long time since I did it.
[16:24] <syndr0> lol
[16:24] <syndr0> ok
[16:24] <Lunks> You can try just restarting
[16:24] <syndr0> well i brb
[16:24] <syndr0> ok
[16:24] <Lunks> and see if it works. /)
[16:24] <Lunks> ;)
[16:24] <profanephobia> ttsmj, its not in that list
[16:24] <syndr0> thanks for all your help
[16:24] <syndr0> im already loving linux a crapload more than windows
[16:24] <engid1> Hello, I have installed jabberd (from ubuntu repos) and wanted to set it up for office use only. The local IP of the machine is 10.0.0.29 which is what I used as a hostname in jabber.cfg and jabber.xml, the server is able to register users and keep them connected, but one user can not add/lookup the other user on the server and I get the error "XMPP Message Error: Message delivery failed: Unable to resolve hostname. (Code 502)".. What should I do to fix this
[16:24] <syndr0> my 1.6ghz is sooo fast now
[16:24] <syndr0> rofl
[16:24] <Lunks> lol
[16:24] <syndr0> brb
[16:24] <Sirisian> is python by default installed with ubuntu?
[16:24] <mariocesar_bo> How can I shutdown my PC without using sudo ?
[16:24] <Lunks> don't use it if you don't like it =P
[16:25] <ttsmj> profanephobia: should be there... in system and hardware section
[16:25] <kuribohx> I can't mount my cdrom drive.....it was working fine before and I detached it from my laptop and now I can't get ubuntu to reconize it
[16:25] <profanephobia> ttsmj, network monitor is but thats not it
[16:25] <david__> lol
[16:26] <MONODA>  my computer is restarting randomly
[16:26] <david__> Well anyone know of a good usb wireless device?
[16:26] <MONODA> can anyone help
[16:26] <david__> That works?
[16:26] <Sirisian> How do I see if python is already installed default with ubuntu?
[16:26] <AlexQ> Hi All.
[16:26] <soulrider> MONODA, have you tried doing a mem test?
[16:26] <soulrider> Sirisian, it is
[16:27] <soulrider> Sirisian, you could also type python in a terminal and see what comes up
[16:27] <AlexQ> I've got an problem with sound at Gutsy Gibbon AMD64
[16:27] <AlexQ> It's probably GStreamer
[16:28] <AlexQ> I've reinstalled it several times, but it's still don't working.
[16:28] <syndr0> back
[16:28] <syndr0> looking......
[16:28] <syndr0> rofl dude
[16:28] <syndr0> i just turned my tv on
[16:28] <syndr0> and you know elaines boss from seinfeld
[16:28] <syndr0> hes the host for family feud now
[16:28] <syndr0> ROFL!
[16:28] <IpMooIng> syndr0: wasnt  me
[16:28] <ttsmj> profanephobia: do you have notification area on your panel?
[16:28] <syndr0> huh?
[16:28] <IpMooIng> j/k
[16:28] <LjL> !enter | syndr0
[16:28] <ubotu> syndr0: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:28] <profanephobia> ttsmj, yeah and i just figured it out
[16:28] <syndr0> sry
[16:29] <ttsmj> profanephobia: ok then
[16:29] <simmerz> I'm trying to get network manager to work with vpnc. however, I've install network-manager-vpnc and it doesn't put the menu into the applet. any ideas?
[16:29] <kuribohx> I can't mount my cdrom drive.....it was working fine before and I detached it from my laptop and now I can't get ubuntu to reconize it
[16:29] <MONODA>  my computer is restarting randomly can anyone help??? please
[16:29] <syndr0> lunks, i dont see it
[16:30] <ttsmj> kuribohx: how do you mean ubuntu dont recognize it
[16:30] <syndr0> UGH! I CANT MOUNT THESE STUPID FRIGGIN PARTITIONS
[16:30] <broken> LjL, ;)
[16:30] <LjL> !caps | syndr0
[16:30] <ubotu> syndr0: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[16:30] <syndr0> but it expresses how  i feel
[16:30] <Lunks> syndr0: It's not on places/computer, right?
[16:30] <kuribohx> it won't pull it up in the browser and when I go directly to it, and click to mount it....it won't mount
[16:30] <Sisco> is there sshd in ubuntu desktop 7.10?
[16:31] <syndr0> nope
[16:31] <syndr0> only floppy cd and fs
[16:31] <Sisco> is there sshd in ubuntu desktop 7.10? how do I start it?
[16:31] <ttsmj> syndr0: you need to edit /etc/fstab and add the missing partitions
[16:31] <LjL> !info openssh-server | sisco
[16:31] <Lunks> syndr0: try opening ntfs-config again, see if your partitions appear there
[16:31] <ubotu> sisco: openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5build1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[16:31] <syndr0> how do i edit fstab?
[16:31] <Sisco> k
[16:32] <LjL> syndr0: with a text editor such as gedit
[16:32] <syndr0> is it using gedit?
[16:32] <Lunks> syndr0: try opening ntfs-config again
[16:32] <syndr0> how
[16:32] <syndr0> i did
[16:32] <Lunks> nothing new?
[16:32] <LjL> syndr0: « gksudo gedit /etc/fstab »
[16:32] <bullgard5> [Gutsy Gnome] Panel menu System > Quit opens a dialog window with 8 buttons. Where can I find the information what command will be executed if I press a certain button of them?
[16:32] <syndr0> all that came up was enabling int and ext
[16:33] <Sisco> ssh is port 22 right?
[16:33] <Sisco> lol
[16:33] <beasty__> yes
[16:33] <syndr0> ljl, ok after i open gedit what do i need to edit
[16:33] <kuribohx> ttsmj: I also have been trying to get madwifi to work as well.....but my cdrom comes first ^_^
[16:34] <beasty__> syndr0: yes it is
[16:34] <LjL> fstab > syndr0
[16:34] <sproingie> is there a way to search packages (i.e. apt-cache) with the deskbar?
[16:34] <beasty__> Sisco: yes it is :p
[16:34] <LjL> !fstab > syndr0    (syndr0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:34] <syndr0> beasty, yes what?
[16:36] <void^> bullgard5: tried gnome-power-cmd.sh?
[16:36] <syndr0> this is frustrating i cant figure this crap out ARGH!
[16:36] <scp2004> hi
[16:36] <bullgard5> void^: No, not yet. But I am hurrying to try it.
[16:36] <scp2004> anyone can help me?
[16:37] <syndr0> ugh this is pissing me off
[16:37] <syndr0> and i have a headache ugh
[16:37] <scp2004> i have this problem : " hdb : waiting for dma" anyone can help me?
[16:37] <MystaMax> anyone know how to check what services are set to run at startup from the CLI?
[16:38] <david__> http://rafb.net/p/l7Kaq266.html maybe some one would be so kind and give me some ideas on troubleshooting this.
[16:38] <Hohlraum> 45 freaking updates? what is this fedora? :-D
[16:38] <Sirisian> how do I check what version of python-snmp I currenty have?
[16:38] <syndr0> can someone please go private with me and try to help me, this is frustrating
[16:39] <MystaMax> what problem are you having?
[16:40] <MasterShrek> MystaMax, check the permissions of files in /etc/rc.d executable ones will be run and non executeable ones wont
[16:40] <MystaMax> MasterShrek, ah thanks
[16:40] <MasterShrek> MystaMax, /etc/init.d ***
[16:40] <MasterShrek> sorry thought i was in a different channel =P
[16:41] <MasterShrek> and MystaMax to tell you the truth, id ont know if ubuntu does it like that anymore
[16:41] <MystaMax> MasterShrek, wait, not /etc/rc.d, but check /etc/init.d?
[16:41] <kuribohx> it won't pull it up in the browser and when I go directly to it, and click to mount it....it won't mount
[16:41] <MasterShrek> yea check /etc/init.d, but theres a command rc-update that controls things like that now i think
[16:42] <n0skilz> anyone know how to re-associate mime types, i thought you could just edit the /etc/mime.types file but didnt seem to work
[16:42] <kuribohx> cdrom drive won't mount on ubuntu 7.04 it was working fine before I unplugged the cdrom from the laptop
[16:42] <simmerz> why does the nm-applet vnc settings not show when i am using a manual network configuration? only when in roaming mode
[16:43] <MystaMax> MasterShrek, this is actually on a server, so I'm running Dapper
[16:43] <syndr0> hohlram, you here?
[16:43] <Assassin5> does anyone know if usb MIDI cables work with ubuntu?
[16:43] <syndr0> hohlraum, you here?
[16:43] <jorgp> Assassin5: probably so, almost everything works with ubuntu
[16:43] <MasterShrek> MystaMax, well then my orginal response may work for you, /etc/init.d
[16:44] <Assassin5> jorgp, okay, well I just want to make sure I'll have MIDI control in ubuntu studio if I buy one of the cables
[16:44] <MONODA> my computer cant hibernate correctly can anyone help me?
[16:44] <sproingie> i've never seen hibernate work
[16:45] <MystaMax> works on my dell
[16:45] <MONODA> thats not good...
[16:45] <MONODA> can anyone help me then??
[16:45] <n0skilz>  i am working on getting my system to play nicely with my xbox360
[16:45] <n0skilz>  and i have it work, except i need to accociate *.avi file as "video/avi" instead of "video/x-msvideo"
[16:45] <sproingie> probably some hardware blocking the hibernate, but it doesn't get caught til it's already shut everything down
[16:46] <syndr0> can anyone go private with me to help me mount thes fawking partitions
[16:47] <sproingie> the channel is hardly busy, why not ask here?
[16:47] <syndr0> people leaving in and out its easier for me
[16:47] <beasty__> syndr0: wrong tab amount
[16:47] <beasty__> :p
[16:47] <beasty__> my bad
[16:47] <syndr0> dont wanna flood
[16:48] <simmerz> why does the nm-applet vnc settings not show when i am using a manual network configuration? only when in roaming mode
[16:48] <MasterShrek> syndr0, join #mastershrek
[16:48]  * sproingie .oO ( /query doesn't do it? )
[16:48] <Vanuatooo> Ubuntu mounts a partition and shows that type is fuseblk
[16:49] <Vanuatooo> Could it be the windows partition?
[16:50] <CroX> Can you use Feisty packages for a Gutsy system?
[16:50] <CroX> I want Wine 0.9.45 but http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html only has that version for Feisty. :(
[16:50] <sproingie> CroX: you *can*, but not easily, and it's not recommended
[16:51] <simmerz> CroX: why specifically that version and not a later one?
[16:51] <sproingie> when it comes to wine, manually installing it seems to be the best
[16:51] <sproingie> simmerz: wine is notorious for only working with particular versions
[16:51] <Lunks> CroX: If probably just have to uninstall current Wine and run .deb
[16:51] <CroX> simmerz: Because after that version, Warcraft bnet play doesn't work.
[16:51] <simmerz> CroX: doh. I use crossover for most of my stuf
[16:51] <simmerz> stuff
[16:52] <CroX> simmerz: You need to pay for Crossover though, right?
[16:52] <Lunks> CroX: But if something weird happens related to wine, it's probably because of the older, unsupported version
[16:52] <simmerz> CroX: yep. happy to
[16:52] <sproingie> or the newer, unsupported version
[16:52] <epifanio> hi, un ubuntuserver, without gui,  what is the commad to power off the computer ? :-/
[16:53] <threefcata> connecting to xp using ad hoc, card is associated but not getting any ip, can anyone help me?
[16:53] <Lunks> epifanio: halt
[16:53] <LjL> epifanio: sudo halt or sudo shutdown -h now
[16:53] <epifanio> ok
[16:53] <LjL> or sudo poweroff
[16:53] <Sirisian> Where is the documentation about installing pykota and setting it up on ubuntu? I can't seem to find it via google
[16:53] <simmerz> threefcata: that's because you have to manually set it. XP doesn't contain a DHCP server
[16:54] <simmerz> threefcata: you'll also have to manually set up the XP machine with an IP address on the same subnet that you create
[16:54] <bullgard5> void^: /usr/bin/gnome-power-cmd.sh could deal with the lower 5 buttons. I does not deal with the upper 3 buttons. --  Do you know what program calls the /usr/bin/gnome-power-cmd.sh script?
[16:55] <NetLarIrvine> I am thinking of getting an old pc so I can just play with Ubuntu, What is the lowest recommended for 7.10?
[16:55] <blang_> anyone here that got zs4 installed? got the tar.gz, extracted, but when i try to run the executable (installer), nothing happens
[16:55] <Lunks> NetLarIrvine: xubuntu runs on most computers
[16:55] <bazhang> NetLarIrvine: lowest in terms of cpu, ram, etc?
[16:56] <NetLarIrvine> Yes
[16:56] <bullgard5> NetLarIrvine: In the wiki there are listed minimum requirements for Ubuntu.
[16:56] <NetLarIrvine> ok
[16:57] <NetLarIrvine> Address for the Wiki?
[16:57] <Lunks> How can I run divx files on feisty live cd?
[16:57] <AlexQ> I've got an problem with sound in Ubu Gutsy AMD64 - Most probably it's GStreamer. I've reinstalled it several times, but it didn't help. Totem, Rythmbox and Nautilus (when I want to play file by moving mouse on files' icon), but it stop'
[16:58] <silentabe939> newbie needs help. i managed to install ubuntu now how do i get dvds to work
[16:59] <ubernewb> how do i tell what is the lease time on the dhcp i am assigned?
[16:59] <bazhang> silentabe939: need to install a package from medibuntu.org
[16:59] <bullgard5> NetLarIrvine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[16:59] <Lunks> !dvd
[16:59] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:59] <NetLarIrvine> Thanks
[17:00] <bullgard5> DreamThief: Are you sometimes known as 'DelayLama'?
[17:00] <geo> irc.overfl0w.ne
[17:01] <TheEagle> pike_: thanks alot for the help yesterday
[17:01] <pike_> TheEagle: np everything is working?
[17:01] <TheEagle> yes
[17:02] <TheEagle> pike_: but, can i change the resolution?
[17:02] <Strangelv> "Has anyone heard of dynamic adjustments to the display for color and brightness?  I'm needing to disable this functionality
[17:02] <TheEagle> with xrandr maybe?
[17:02] <Chan_> #zenoss
[17:03] <TheEagle> i want to change from 800x600 to 1024x768
[17:03] <Tonren> Can someone help me with setting up proftpd?
[17:03] <bard1988> Hello
[17:03] <Strangelv> TheEagle: what have you tried?
[17:04] <Tonren> Even though I've set DefaultRoot to ~ in /etc/proftpd.conf and ran /etc/init.d/proftpd restart, when I log in as an FTP user, I still start in / .
[17:04] <bard1988_> Helllo
[17:04] <MasterShrek> Tonren, try DefaultRoot ~/
[17:04] <bard1988_> How can i tell if i have installed my graphic card correctly (ati rage 3d pro)
[17:04] <pike_> TheEagle: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  if you scroll to the bottom youll see a Depth  24 and below that setting for whichever depth you choose since its 24 usually youll scroll down to the 24 settings and add res like: "1024x768" "800x600" and X will attempt each starting with the highest
[17:05] <Tonren> MasterShrek: No dice.
[17:05] <MasterShrek> Tonren, let me check mine, 1 sec
[17:05] <bard1988_> how can i tell if i have installed my graphic card?
[17:05] <Strangelv> TheEagle: have you tried System Settings?  This might work without having to leave the GUI
[17:05] <Tonren> MasterShrek: http://www.nopoblopt.com/proftpd.html#DEFAULTROOT <-- that's the doc
[17:05]  * N3bunel saluta
[17:05] <wols_> bard1988_: you have a pictures on your monitor
[17:05] <threefcata__> ok now i got my two laptops connected, but how do i share the internet connection on one of them?
[17:05] <bard1988_> yeah :X
[17:05] <Tonren> MasterShrek: Also, my welcome.msg isn't displaying
[17:05] <wols_> without graphicscard: no picutre (ro "no signal")
[17:05] <wilsud> #kubuntu
[17:05] <bard1988_> but i mean how do i know if the driver is installed
[17:05] <bard1988> how can i tell if i have installed my graphic card?
[17:06] <TheEagle> pike_: System->Administration->Screens and Graphics, then set the resolution to 1024x768 and clicked test, it seems fine so i click keep configuration and it goes back to the 800x600. I click ok and it asks me if i want to keep configuration and i do, but nothing happens
[17:06] <AlexQ> Hi All.
[17:06] <wols_> bard1988_: do you think we are psychic?
[17:06] <Strangelv> bard1988_ I'm not sure how to answer.  At the moment I'm having issues with an nVidia and can barely read my display
[17:06] <bard1988_> thats why im asking
[17:06] <Frederick> Strangelv: which board?
[17:06] <Frederick> Strangelv: amd 64?
[17:06] <Strangelv> TheEagle: try restarting xorg
[17:06] <Kaur> hi
[17:06] <Strangelv> Frederick: yes, AMD64
[17:06] <pike_> TheEagle: im not too familiar with the gnome gui tools sorry id do the gksu command and make sure it actually wrote the settings to your xorg.conf file if it did then.. is this a lcd or crt?
[17:06] <Kaur> could someone please explain me the following command: find . -depth -print0 | sudo cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[17:07] <Frederick> what does hapen?
[17:07] <bard1988_> is there any command to check if my driver is the right one or whatevere?
[17:07] <Kaur> is it safe?
[17:07] <Frederick> I had issues yesterday.
[17:07] <TheEagle> pike_: lcd
[17:07] <Strangelv> previously the problem has been an annoyance with colors changing when changing windows -- something I blamed my monitor for doing
[17:07] <jasonago2> I'm interested in translating some programs in my Tagalog language...I saw in launchpad that there are interfaces for that...MY QUESTION IS: will my translation be carried over to next versions of ubuntu?
[17:07] <Frederick> jasonago2: thisis a question for -dev
[17:07] <TheEagle> Strangelv: how do i do that, restart the pc?
[17:07] <bard1988_> How can I check if my graphic driver is the right one?
[17:08] <wols_> bard1988_: tell us what card you have
[17:08] <Strangelv> Then I fitnally restarted, got the correct resolution, transparency working, and maybe some other features -- and when I went fullscreen in VLC everything got dim.  Then I made the mistake of doing it again...
[17:08] <bard1988_> iv said already.. but ill say again :] ati 3d rage pro
[17:08] <smookerPC1> Hi all, i have problems with one .avi movie, subs give error.. in other Mplayers no subs load at all, someone know good Mplayer for Ubuntu like K-Lite ?
[17:08] <Strangelv> popup menus are full brightness
[17:08] <xst> Can anyone help me to debug this: When I change the paper size (to a smaller one) in e.g. OpenOffice and prints it out, the output is left aligned on the paper sheet - even though my printers paper tray centers the paper sheets. In other words it seems the printer thinks that the paper is placed to the left in paper tray instead of in the center. The result is that the contents are exceeding the paper boundaries to the left. I ha
[17:08] <xst> ve another linux box with feisty installed. Here, the printing to smaller page sizes works fine. What to do?
[17:08] <Strangelv> nothing else is except around the lop and left edges of my display
[17:08] <sproingie> jasonago2: they might need maintenance between versions, but they should be, yes.
[17:08] <AlexQ> I've got an problem with sound in Ubu Gutsy AMD64 - Most probably it's GStreamer. I've reinstalled it several times, but it didn't help. Totem, Rythmbox and Nautilus (when I want to play file by moving mouse on files' icon), stops and I must halt it. Where's the problem and how to fix it?
[17:08] <Strangelv> TTY consoles are full brightness
[17:08] <pike_> TheEagle: there are some tips at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[17:09] <TheEagle> pike_: cheers
[17:09] <bard1988_> I have ati 3d rage pro and Im not sure if it is installed correctly
[17:09] <bard1988_> beacuse when i drag windows and stuff its kinda laggy
[17:10] <wols_> bard1988_: grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:10] <Strangelv> TheEagle: restarting would wolk, but you can do it without going that far,  unfolutnately ,there may not be a practical difference -- go to Log Gout, log out user, then tell KDM or GDM to restart the X server
[17:10] <wols_> bard1988_: does it say "ati" anywhere?
[17:10] <AlexQ> I've got an problem with sound in Ubu Gutsy AMD64 - Most probably it's GStreamer. I've reinstalled it several times, but it didn't help. Totem, Rythmbox and Nautilus (when I want to play file by moving mouse on files' icon), stops and I must halt it. Where's the problem and how to fix it? Hm?
[17:10] <bard1988_> wols_: checking : ]
[17:10] <Tonren> MasterShrek: Any ideas?
[17:10] <TheEagle> Strangelv: cheers
[17:10] <bard1988_> no : [
[17:11]  * Strangelv wonders if he's chased off Frederick
[17:11] <bard1988_> it says KBD, MOUSE,VESA
[17:11] <wols_> TheEagle: log out so you get to your displaymanager again. then press ctrl+alt+f1. log in and  "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" then press ctrl+alt+f7 (or f8) again
[17:11] <MasterShrek> sorry Tonren, my ftp isnt even working right now lol
[17:11] <Tonren> MasterShrek: Hehe, harsh!
[17:11] <bard1988_> wols_: no i dun have ATI
[17:11] <wols_> bard1988_: in a text console: sudo dpkg-reoconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh   As a driver choose ati
[17:11] <skeeel> hello
[17:12] <wols_> bard1988_: you currently use unaccelerated vesa
[17:12] <TheEagle> when i press ctrl+alt+f1 i just get a blank screen with a flashing underscore in the top left
[17:12] <bard1988_> wols_: text console=terminal?
[17:12] <wols_> TheEagle: press enter there
[17:12] <wols_> bard1988_: no terminal. console
[17:12] <wols_> bard1988_: not inside X. in fact, you need to close down X
[17:12]  * Strangelv ups his gamma to 2.50 for temporary visibility, but it's still too dim (as well as inadequate contrast)
[17:12] <TheEagle> wols_: no, that has no effect
[17:12] <skeeel> since my upgrade to 7.10 i have no sound , the system consider my tv card saa1734 as a sound card and don't see the real sound card
[17:13] <bard1988_> wols_: im kinda new in it :P
[17:13] <wols_> TheEagle: ctrl+alt+f2 then
[17:13] <Tonren> Can anyone help me debug a proftpd problem?  Even though DefaultRoot is set to ~, users logging in aren't being chroot jailed to their home directories.
[17:13] <bard1988_> wols_: where can i find consloe?
[17:13] <wols_> bard1988_: ctrl+aöt+f2
[17:14] <jlarsson> Hi, how do i spin the dekstoop as a cube if im using ubuntu 7.04 ?
[17:14] <biotrox> why does everytime my ubuntu pendrive meet error from h/w.. the ubuntu pendrive cannot login automatically....?
[17:14] <wols_> jlarsson: you'd need to have compit installed
[17:14] <TheEagle> wols_: ctrl-alt-f2-6 all do the same as f1
[17:15] <Dr_willis> Tonren,  you sure that ~ is correct? thats normally a short cut name used by bash.  or other shells.
[17:15] <wols_> TheEagle: what X driver do you use?
[17:15] <AlexQ> wols_: Not even beryl? Or compiz-beryl?
[17:15] <threefcata__> does anyone know how to configure with a network bridge on a xp machine?
[17:15] <Tonren> Dr_willis: http://www.nopoblopt.com/proftpd.html#DEFAULTROOT <-- Says you can use it in the documentation.
[17:15] <TheEagle> wols_: either vesa or sis, ill just check my xorg.conf file
[17:15] <wols_> threefcata__: what has XP to do with it?
[17:16] <AlexQ> I've got an problem with sound in Ubu Gutsy AMD64 - Most probably it's GStreamer. I've reinstalled it several times, but it didn't help. Totem, Rythmbox and Nautilus (when I want to play file by moving mouse on files' icon), stops and I must halt it. Where's the problem and how to fix it? Hm?
[17:16] <wols_> threefcata__: sis sucks :(
[17:16] <wols_> TheEagle: 11
[17:16] <wols_> TheEagle: ^^
[17:17] <threefcata__> wols_: ... i have an xp machine who has a ethernet and wifi, and i want to connect my laptop to it
[17:17] <kane__> how do I block certain port in iptables? (I have my computer act as router and want to block icq)
[17:17] <Dr_willis> Tonren,  :) glad to hear you are reading the docs. heh..  Perhaps they got a faq.  Ive no other ideas.
[17:17] <wols_> threefcata__: you run ICS on windows, that's it
[17:17] <wols_> threefcata__: you can only bridge inside the same PC
[17:17] <wols_> threefcata__: not acress hosts
[17:17] <TheEagle> wols_: vesa
[17:18] <wols_> TheEagle: that shouldn't give you that problem then. maybe restart without X then
[17:18] <threefcata__> wols_: but that is going to screw up the ethernet connection i already have, it auto sets the ip of it to 192.168.0.1
[17:18] <wols_> TheEagle: and until you fix your troubles use startx or such
[17:18] <wols_> threefcata__: do you have a ubuntu problem? cause your windows troubles aren't
[17:19] <bard1988> wols_: i didnt know that it takes me to that screen
[17:19] <wols_> bard1988: huh?
[17:19] <threefcata__> wols_: now my problem is on both sides..ok, come to ubuntu side
[17:19] <bard1988> wols_: u told me to go to console :O
[17:19] <MONODA> please im having trouble hibernating can anoyone help me>>>
[17:19] <wols_> threefcata__: what do you want to do exactly?
[17:19] <cox377> hey all
[17:20] <MONODA> please im having trouble hibernating can anyone help me?
[17:20] <bard1988> Hey all, im having trouble installing my graphic card(ati 3d rage pro)
[17:20] <wols_> !ask | MONODA
[17:20] <ubotu> MONODA: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[17:20] <cox377> i'm having issues, i've just installed php5 and restarted apache2 but when i try a php file it just tries to download it - i installed these 2 via apt
[17:20] <erUSUL> !lamp | cox377
[17:20] <Dr_willis> kane__,  some of those im clienyts can be very hard to block. they will default back to port 80 if they cant connect with other ports. Not sure if ICQ does that however.
[17:20] <ubotu> cox377: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[17:20] <kane77> can I do something like this: iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth0 --dport 5190 -j REJECT ?
[17:20] <wols_> cox377: libapache2-mod-php5
[17:21] <Tonren> Figured out the problem.  My FTP client was caching the directory listing.
[17:21] <kane77> Dr_willis, ^^
[17:21] <bard1988> Hey all, im having trouble installing my graphic card( ati 3d rage pro)
[17:21] <wols_> !repeat | bard1988
[17:21] <ubotu> bard1988: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:21] <wols_> bard1988: and I told you what to do
[17:21] <cox377> cheers guys
[17:21] <MONODA> Whenever i hibernate my screen turns black but everything else stayrs on(powers button and such)
[17:21] <mzanfardino> question re apt-get: Can you change the path where software is installed when installing via apt-get?
[17:21] <threefcata__> wols_:i have a laptop(A), that connects to internet and it also has a wifi card, i also have another laptop(B) that also have a wifi card, i want to connect B to A, and also set A to share its internet connection with B so that I can get on internet on B as well.
[17:21] <bard1988> wols_: can u reapete it?
[17:21] <Dr_willis> kane77,  try it and see.. I wouldebnt be suprised if icq then tryes anotehr port.   I tried to block one of them ages ago on my home lan. and never did get it all blocked. Just broke parts of it. :)
[17:21] <MONODA> Whenever i hibernate my screen turns black but everything else stayrs on(powers button and such) please help
[17:21] <bard1988> wols_: cause i wasent prepared going to consloe :P
[17:22] <kane77> Dr_willis, can I have iptables -A FORWARD --in-interface eth0 --dport 5190 -j REJECT (I want to block it only on eth0 interface)
[17:22] <wols_> mzanfardino: yes. man dpkg. and you can give apt-get options for dpkg it calls
[17:22] <kane77> kane77, okay..
[17:22]  * Strangelv_ 's display crisis is temporarily resolved by a 500ms blackout, alt least until he does something to throw it out of whack again
[17:22] <threefcata__> wols_: i did some google but i am confused but them
[17:22] <wols_> bard1988: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[17:22] <threefcata__> by*
[17:22] <Dr_willis> kane77,  im not an iptavbles expert. So no idea.
[17:22] <bard1988> wols_: and how do i go back from consloe to here
[17:22] <bard1988> wols_: ?
[17:23] <TheEagle> i can't access any ttys ctrl+alt+f1-6 produce a blank screen with a flashing underscore in the top left corner.
[17:23] <popdog123> hello! does anybody know an app to capture my desktop (to make a movie) including the compiz effects?... i want to convince a friend to use linux...
[17:23] <Dr_willis> bard1988, alt-ctrl F1 through F6, then F7 for X.
[17:23] <Strangelv_> TheEagle: eep
[17:23] <phenom> Any resident locksmiths in the house know if bypassing  m cylinders have been published?
[17:23] <wols_> threefcata__: there is nothing to do if your internet laptop has a DHCP server. if it doesn't you need to set a static IP on the ubuntu box (man interfaces)
[17:23] <TheEagle> popdog123: press the print screen button on your keyboar
[17:23] <bard1988> wols_: ok il ltry
[17:23] <TheEagle> d
[17:23] <Strangelv_> popdog123: ksnapshot can do still images, but I don't know what options there are for motion capture
[17:23] <wols_> bard1988:to do this dpkg-reconfigure your X must be stopped. there is no GUI when oyu do it
[17:23] <popdog123> doesn't that just take a snapshot?
[17:24] <MONODA> Whenever i hibernate my screen turns black but everything else stayrs on(powers button and such) please help
[17:24] <TheEagle> Strangelv_: what is "eep"
[17:24] <boris_> does anyone know a good AGP graphics card with good compiz 3D support, 512 mb of ram and is cheap (less than 100$) ?
[17:24] <wols_> bard1988: exit your X server
[17:24] <wols_> !repeat | hottis
[17:24] <wols_> !repeat | MONODA
[17:24] <jlarsson> hmm, my cube did just stop working
[17:24] <Strangelv_> MONODA: hibernate probably didn't work then -- it may be doing suspend or standby
[17:24] <jlarsson> anyone knows how to get it going again?
[17:24] <ubotu> hottis: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:24] <ubotu> MONODA: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:24] <wols_> boris_: #hardware
[17:24] <Strangelv_> TheEagle: an interjection
[17:24] <popdog123> Strangelv_: capturing moting is what i actually want
[17:24] <threefcata__> wols_: i tried using ifconfig but it doesn't work. i guess configure /etc/network/interfaces is not any better.
[17:25] <hottis> ubotu: have i said anything?
[17:25] <wols_> threefcata__: you guess wrong
[17:25] <sharperguy> Is there any way do edit the powerpc cd from an x86 box? (I'm assuming not)
[17:25] <TheEagle> Strangelv_: what do i do with it?
[17:25] <wols_> hottis: no but it was a mistab, sorry
[17:25] <TheEagle> Strangelv_: im completly new to linux
[17:25] <Dr_willis> !info kiso
[17:25] <ubotu> kiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[17:25] <jlarsson> Anyone?
[17:25] <Jermit> is there any way to mute the speakers when the headset is plugged in?
[17:25] <wols_> !patience | jlarsson
[17:25] <ubotu> jlarsson: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:25] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  check out kiso ?
[17:25] <sharperguy> Dr_willis, wassat?
[17:26] <Strangelv_> TheEagle: eep, damn, *&^@, crap, and other interjections are not direct solutions to technical issues.  They're mainly useful for maintaining self-control. 8)
[17:26] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  the bot just said what it was.
[17:26] <Dr_willis> !kiso | sharperguy
[17:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:26] <Dr_willis> !info kiso | sharperguy
[17:26] <ubotu> sharperguy: kiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (gutsy), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[17:26] <Sharpie> how can i stop OpenOffice from automatically turning "17:00" to "5:00:00 PM"?
[17:26] <threefcata__> wols_: ok i'll give it a try, thx
[17:26] <sal> ch
[17:26] <jlarsson> then where are the ubuntu PRO irc channel?
[17:26] <seisen> anybody testing Xubuntu 8.04 in Virtualbox
[17:26] <sharperguy> Dr_willis, cheers
[17:26] <c1arlos> hola
[17:26] <TheEagle> Strangelv_: do you know what i could do to restore the ttys?
[17:27] <MONODA> if my computer overheats will it restart?
[17:27] <cox377> wols_: I've installed that and enabled it and restarted apache but its still not playing nice
[17:27] <seisen> yes  Monoda
[17:27] <cox377> do you have any other suggestions?
[17:27] <Strangelv_> TheEagle: unfortunately, no.  I myself would resort to attempting a reboot -- not because there isn't a better solution, but because I've not a clue of what that better solution would be
[17:28] <Jermit> anyone?
[17:28] <Strangelv_> TheEagle: I'm here hoping for help on something myself, but it seems to be too obscure
[17:28] <Dr_willis> jlarsson,  check their homepage - they may say where they hang out.
[17:29] <Squirrely_Wrath> Can someone help me?  I am on a dell inspiron e1505.  Using an ATI radeon mobility x1400.  Downloaded the newest ATI drivers and though google earth/secondlife and other programs that like opengl work great, I have a weird video issue
[17:29] <cox377> is the command to get rid of absolutly everything package --purge?
[17:29]  * Strangelv_ holds up a posterboat that reads: What can provide a feature for dynamic color and brightness adjustment?  I need to find out what this is so I can disable it
[17:29] <seisen> yes cox377
[17:29] <Strangelv_> Squirrely_Wrath: whas flavor(s) of weirdness?
[17:29] <Squirrely_Wrath> When watching videos, I get what appears to be a diagonal line.  Almost appears as if the two halves of the video are refreshing at different rates or something
[17:29] <Dr_willis> cox377,  as far as i know the purge option - removes the config files for a package.  what do you mean by 'everything'
[17:29] <seisen> or you can do -P to cox377
[17:30] <biotrox> hoi hooi anybody can help me..?
[17:30] <Strangelv_> s/posterboat/posterboard/
[17:30] <erUSUL> !anyone | biotrox
[17:30] <Jermit> how do I mute my laptop speaker's when I plug my headset in?
[17:30] <ubotu> biotrox: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:31] <biotrox> i asked about the real question earlier but no one respond
[17:31] <biotrox> :(
[17:31] <MONODA> why would my computer overheat
[17:31] <cox377> Dr_willis: basically, so it removes all config files and trace of it ever being there lol
[17:31] <cazilla> #join strongswan
[17:31] <biotrox> i'm asking does anyone can help me.. my ubuntu pendrive often crash.. and can't login
[17:31] <Strangelv_> MONADA: poor circulation; inadequate heatsink;... is this a notebook or desktop or other that's overheating?
[17:32] <Oli``> Anyone here on Pidgin able to connect to MSN?
[17:32] <Strangelv_> biotrox: I've never booted off of a jumpdrive.  Sorry
[17:32] <Jermit> yes Oli
[17:32] <Oli``> Jermit: bugger =( that mean's it's my fault
[17:32] <shishirm1> how to stop wine whn it is running
[17:32] <Strangelv_> "oh good! someone with a question someone else may be able to answer
[17:32] <Dr_willis> cox377,  note that that does NOT remove the users own personal configs/settings in theior home dir.
[17:32] <Strangelv_> shishirm1: does kill -9 count?
[17:33] <erUSUL> !kill | shishirm1
[17:33] <ubotu> shishirm1: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[17:33] <cox377> Dr_willis: nope, basically trying to fully remove the lamp stack
[17:33] <Squirrely_Wrath> So I guess I can't be helped.
[17:33] <Dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  ati drivers can have bugs.. sadly..
[17:34] <Strangelv_> Squirrely_Wrath: it can probabrly be helped, just that the person who could help you presumably isn't here right now
[17:34] <Dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  i would say check the ati/linux forums and see if anyoht else has had simielr issues
[17:34] <sharperguy> Dr_willis, tbh i dont really  think its what I'm looking for - i need to edit the live cd iso by installing and removing packages - also it segfaulted
[17:34] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  i never used it.  i dont even use my ppc machine any more. :)
[17:34] <Squirrely_Wrath> What's the forum location?
[17:34] <Dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  i would say hit google first.
[17:34] <sharperguy> Dr_willis, Also i don't care if its complicated - ie involving manual extraction and chroot/apt-geting etc
[17:35] <Dr_willis> im not sure ubuntu has a specific forum for those things.
[17:35] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  Ya can extraxt the iso. but i dont know about puttig it all back together. :)  plus ppc adds another layer of complications
[17:35]  * Strangelv_ has always used the old school "alternate" install discs -- he knows how to use them better and hasn't consistently run into show-stopping issues
[17:35] <Squirrely_Wrath> K.  Will bounce around and take a look-see.  Thanks for the help.
[17:36] <DrJohnston> Can anyone tell me why i might not be able to ssh to example.com, but i can SSH directly into example.com's IP?  I can ping and resolve example.com but for some reason ssh connections fail when i use the host name...
[17:36] <sharperguy> Dr_willis, well ive done it with an x86 computer but I doubt its possible to do any of that with a different arcitechure
[17:36] <DrJohnston> Anyone?
[17:36] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  no idea there. :) but they are all usign the iso9660 filesystem. so it may work.
[17:37]  * Strangelv_ has never directly used ssh
[17:37] <sharperguy> Dr_willis, lol ill re-ask because i have absolutely no idea what to google
[17:38] <TheEagle> pike_: any idea how to restore my ttys? i can't seem to get any unless i boot into recovery mode
[17:38] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  yep. Me either.   Ive never edited a live cd. other then to remaster them with  various tools.
[17:38] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  disable the framebuffer for a start.
[17:38] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  assuming its a framebuffer issue.
[17:39] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: i am new to ubuntu, so if you can, please can you explain what that means? thanks
[17:39] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  the line   looks like # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb
[17:39] <Dr_willis>    
[17:39] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: ill just check
[17:39] <Dr_willis> the nofb option disalbes the framebuffer. edit the file. set that line, rerun 'sudo update-grub' and reboot and see.
[17:39]  * Strangelv re-asks, "What can provide dynamic gamma and color adjustments and how do I disable it?  Alternately, what keywords might point me to a useful direction with a search engine?"
[17:40] <Dr_willis> OR at the grub menu. hit 'e' and edit the kernel= line and append 'nofb' to the end.
[17:41] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: nofb is not there so do i add it?
[17:41] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  if you want to disable it yes... :)
[17:42] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: what is the difference between having it on and off?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> nofb is the option to disable the framebuffer.   the nosplash option disables the splash screen so you can see error messages
[17:42] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  One turns off the framebuffer.. one turns it on. :)
[17:42] <Xteven> hi
[17:42] <Dr_willis> The framebuffer enables fancy gfx modes on the console.
[17:43] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: what is the frambuffer
[17:43] <TheEagle> ok
[17:43] <Ziddharth> hi
[17:43]  * Strangelv jots down notes on nosplash
[17:43] <Ziddharth> i m new to irc
[17:43] <Ziddharth> can ne 1 help me with this thing
[17:43] <Xteven> does anyone know if I can access the directories mounted under nautilus (SSH server), from console ?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> And ive had issues in the past with the framebuffer and some hardware
[17:43] <Braindead> How do i connect my internet connection using a usb wireless adapter?
[17:43] <Braindead> *on ubuntu
[17:43] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: if i turn it off, are my ttys likely to come back?
[17:43] <Dr_willis> Strangelv,  note that the 'recovery' grub entry HAS 'nofb' in it :)
[17:43] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  one way to find out.
[17:43] <TheEagle> lol, ok
[17:43] <Dr_willis> TheEagle,  since the recovery mode does work..i would say yes.
[17:44] <Strangelv> Ziddharth: what is your difficulty with IRC and/or Ubuntu/*ubuntu?
[17:44] <Strangelv> Dr_willis: I'm not having trouble with TTY consoles on any current install -- I'm very interested in disabling the splash screen though. 8)
[17:46] <indio> hi
[17:46]  * Strangelv crosses his fingers as he awaits TheEagle's return.  Maybe someone can get helped here...
[17:46] <indio> how do i install JBOSS ?
[17:46] <sharperguy> Is there any way do edit the powerpc cd from an x86 box? (I'm assuming not)
[17:47] <Dr_willis> Strangelv,  :) one of the first things i do on a new install.
[17:47] <Ax-Ax> Why did Microsoft register patent on sudo?
[17:47] <Dr_willis> sharperguy,  i do recall there being a PPC ubuntu specific forum on the messge bords.
[17:47] <Dr_willis> Ax-Ax,  because they can. :) and can get away withit.
[17:47] <sharperguy> Ax-Ax, because they're pies
[17:47] <indio> There is no jboss package at synaptic.
[17:47] <bluefox83> microsoft registered a patent on sudo?
[17:48] <bluefox83> when the hell did that happen?
[17:48] <Ax-Ax> 2000 i think
[17:48] <bluefox83> O.o
[17:48] <jklock> sudo patent sude
[17:48] <Strangelv> Dr_willis: Maybe something I should add to the list I have -- I've just not been motivated enough to find out how.  Generally a high priority has been disabling counterproductive touchpad features.  Previously ensuring keyboard layout support was critical, but has always been shockingly easy with Kubunt
[17:48] <jklock> sudo patent sudo* there all better
[17:48] <Ax-Ax> I don't getiit
[17:49] <pras> ciao zäme
[17:49]  * Strangelv prefers to have a root console open anyway -- retypping his >10 digit password every time he needed to do something was too annoying 
[17:50] <chadde> Can someone please tell me how to connect to a remote mysqlserver?
[17:50] <T1m0thy> I just reinstalled Gutsy and I'm trying to install Adobe Flash Player for Firefox. I went to YouTube, loaded a video, went through the steps and intalled. It didn't work. So, I went to Synaptic, uninstalled, and then reinstalled. It still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[17:50] <syberpuppy> hello
[17:50] <TheEagle> Dr_willis: thanks alot! great work
[17:50]  * Strangelv wonders if he's the only person here boycotting Adobe -- if he is' someone should be able to help T1m0thy
[17:51] <boris_> does Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 2600PRO, 512MB, AGP have a 3D driver that supports compiz ?
[17:51] <Strangelv> TheEagle: Yay!
[17:51] <indio> How do I install JBoss??
[17:51] <syberpuppy> can anyone help me installing ubuntu?
[17:51] <TheEagle> lol
[17:51] <T1m0thy> Strangelv, there aren't any full alternatives at the moment are there?
[17:51] <TheEagle> syberpuppy: yes
[17:51] <pras> www.ubuntuusers.de
[17:51] <pras> glaub i
[17:51] <syberpuppy> thx
[17:51] <pras> gahsch mal go luege
[17:51] <pras> hehe
[17:51] <TheEagle> syberpuppy: what do you need help with
[17:51] <pras> oder wenn site falsch isch schrieb mal uf google findsch sicher öbis nützliches
[17:51] <kristijan> hi
[17:51] <kristijan> kjako e
[17:52] <Strangelv> T1m0thy: gnash/gtk-gnash, and let me find the name of the mozilla package
[17:52] <linuxftw> ./installer: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:52] <linuxftw> does anyone know my problwem
[17:52] <linuxftw> because the file IS there
[17:52] <Strangelv> unfortunately, it's still in serious alpha time
[17:52] <T1m0thy> Stranglev: I heard that had problems. Is it better now?
[17:52] <syberpuppy> i donloaded and install ubuntu at other drive then my xp and it doesn't dualboot
[17:52] <hardeep> hello
[17:52] <chadde> Why does it say "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' " When its not a local server Im connecting to?
[17:52] <linuxftw> umm
[17:52] <kristijan> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[17:52] <Strangelv> T1m0thy: It's less bad than it was a few months ago, but it's still not there
[17:52] <linuxftw> windows kills linux
[17:52] <TheEagle> so you have 2 drives?
[17:53] <syberpuppy> yep
[17:53] <linuxftw> you always install xp first :\
[17:53] <TheEagle> one for xp and one for ubuntu
[17:53] <hardeep> anyone have the 64 bit edition of ubuntu, 7.10 running on VM?
[17:53] <Strangelv> T1m0thy: for FLV- I use UnPlug, save to disk, and then run them with VLC
[17:53] <TheEagle> same as me
[17:53] <syberpuppy> yes, i made the linux partition active (boot)
[17:53] <TheEagle> so, what happens
[17:53]  * Strangelv tries to remember who simply wanted install help
[17:54] <TheEagle> and you cant boot into xp?
[17:54] <bruenig> are the FloodBots freenode things or ubuntu things?
[17:54] <TheEagle> Strangelv: well technically, this is install help.
[17:54] <syberpuppy> finished installing, restarted, and xp was up as if i never installed ubuntu
[17:54] <linuxftw> floodbots
[17:54] <linuxftw> from freenode
[17:54] <Strangelv> "oh, dual boot.  I must admit I've not messed with that on my past few installs...
[17:54] <robeph> is there a util similar to rc-status in gentoo,  in ubuntu?
[17:55] <Strangelv> syberpuppy: what did you install last?
[17:55] <TheEagle> so you can't access ubuntu
[17:55] <syberpuppy> ubuntu was last
[17:55] <Strangelv> robeph: what is rc-status?
[17:55] <TheEagle> did you install grub?
[17:55] <syberpuppy> eagle: nope
[17:55] <robeph> Strangelv: shows status of the current runlevel and the state of the scripts
[17:55] <TheEagle> syperpuppy: is that a nope to installing grub?
[17:56] <syberpuppy> nope, the latest ubuntu, it never gave me an option
[17:56] <Strangelv> syberpuppy: odd -- I've not encountered that before.  Admittedly, I've also never set up a dual boot with XP.  I EOLed MS Windows with 2000, the la-st version with licencing rules I find acceptable
[17:56] <robeph> more like dueling boot,  when xp is involved D:
[17:56] <Strangelv> robeph: you'll need a more admin-savvy person here seeking help to answer that than me I'm afraid.  I'm here trying to identify a feature to disable
[17:57] <Strangelv> "a video feature, something that might be part of nVidia's driver or similar
[17:57] <TheEagle> sorry syberpuppy, i don't know what to do
[17:57] <u_angel_> hello room.
[17:57] <d0dge> Hello! I installed xserver and gnome, but when I try to 'sudo startx' I get errors, like cannot lock .Xauthority file, and No valid Fontpath could be found. Could anyone help?
[17:57] <aladdinsane> Why do i get green annoying circles following my mouse in Gimp on Xubuntu, which after a while clutter the whole image im working on?
[17:57] <aladdinsane> Here's another guy with the same problem: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic/Green-cirle-Issue-25821-1.html
[17:57] <TheEagle> but there are plenty of people here, one of them must be able to help
[17:57] <u_angel_> is ikonoa here?
[17:58] <bluefox83> that's some crazy shiz, can't believe micro$hit basically patented sudo...
[17:58] <Strangelv> syberpuppy: if I were in better shape I might be able to help with your dual boot issue, but I'm not.  Sorry
[17:58] <robeph> wait what?
[17:58] <robeph> bluefox83: wtf?
[17:58] <biotrox> ubuntu gutsy often crash
[17:58] <pakde> as
[17:58] <bluefox83> robeph, holdon i'll link you to the article
[17:58] <robeph> k
[17:59] <syberpuppy> i dont know if it installed grub, the live cd's install just asked me about partitions, some info and did all the work itself
[17:59] <bluefox83> robeph, http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2007/05/did-microsoft-just-patent-sudo.html
[17:59] <Strangelv> d0dge: if gdm or similar doesn't start automatically, there's probably a problem.  You may need to hack on xorg.conf
[17:59] <u_angel_> room, is there a way to turn on vnc server via ssh?
[18:00] <Strangelv> bluefox83: The patent office will let you patent anything these days.  Want to patent math that was solved 150 years ago? go right ahead!
[18:00] <bluefox83> u_angel, you mean is there a way to ssh into a machine and turn on the vnc service?
[18:01] <u_angel_> yes bluefox, please gimme some good news
[18:01] <bluefox83> i don't see why you couldn't...
[18:01] <bluefox83> so long as you had the access level required to do it on that machine...
[18:01] <syberpuppy> well... thanks guys anyway, i'll try another time
[18:02]  * Strangelv may need to do the same
[18:02] <u_angel_> bluefox| awsome, help a noob out. sudo vncturnon does not work
[18:02] <A51HQ> Hi all any one round to help?
[18:02] <erUSUL> d0dge: why don't you install {k,x, }ubuntu-desktop ??
[18:02] <u_angel_> a51hq| state your q first
[18:02] <Strangelv> A51HQ: plenty of people willing to help, it's just that we're here hoping for help ourselves
[18:02] <chadde> Can someone please help me connect to a mysql-server through the terminal?
[18:02] <bluefox83> u_angel, lol..i wouldn't think it would... it's likely something closer to sudo /etc/init.d/vnc-server start
[18:02] <TheEagle> how do i change my screen resolution
[18:02] <erUSUL> d0dge: instead of installing the pieces ono by one
[18:02] <linuxftw> does anyone know if ubuntu 7.10 package manager comes with libcrypto.so.0.9.7??? pm me pls my comp is going to slow to stay and watch fpor reply's tyvvvvm
[18:02] <erUSUL> !fixres | TheEagle
[18:02] <ubotu> TheEagle: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:03] <indio> How do I install JBoss in ubuntu??
[18:04] <bluefox83> indio, if it'd in the repos just use synaptic or another file manager
[18:04] <erUSUL> linuxftw: libssl0.9.8
[18:04] <bruenig> s/file/package
[18:04] <TheEagle> i went to System->Adminstration->Screens and Graphics then changed my resolution and pressed test, everything was fine so i clicked keep configuration and it went back to normal. I pressed OK and it asked me to keep configuration or not again so i kept it and nothing happened?
[18:04] <profanephobia> http://www.techlicious.tv/2007/10/best-things-to-do-with-your-old.html (funny pics)
[18:04] <bard1988> Hey all, i was wonering what is the command for closign down desktop
[18:04] <indio> bluefox83: not in synaptic
[18:04] <bruenig> !ot | profanephobia
[18:04] <ubotu> profanephobia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:04] <Strangelv> erUSUL: just hope you're not needing to disable 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768 -- I never was able to get those modes to stop being offered, and on that particular machine they all turned by display to indecipherable mush
[18:04] <bluefox83> indio, it's a linux app right?
[18:05] <profanephobia> bruenig, shoot im sry i thought i was in offtopic :)
[18:05] <indio> bluefox83: yup
[18:05] <_nix_> hello everyone.. anyone up for some fun with bittorrent's DHT?
[18:05] <u_angel_> bluefox| i get a command not found. is it safe to assume it is not intalled
[18:05] <bruenig> !anyone | _nix_
[18:05] <ubotu> _nix_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:05] <linuxftw>  libssl0.9.8 <== can i insall thru terminal?
[18:05] <bruenig> !find libssl
[18:05] <bluefox83> indio, if there's a .deb for it, download it and either let your package manager install it automatically, or do it yourself with dpkg -i <package>
[18:05] <ubotu> Found: libssl-ocaml, libssl-ocaml-dev, libssl-dev, libssl0.9.8, libssl0.9.8-dbg
[18:05] <bluefox83> indio, otherwise you get to compile
[18:06] <Strangelv> _nix_: I wouldn't be able to help -- I switched to transmission-gtk to control memory usage
[18:06] <bruenig> !info libssl0.9.8
[18:06] <ubotu> libssl0.9.8: SSL shared libraries. In component main, is important. Version 0.9.8e-5ubuntu3.1 (gutsy), package size 2759 kB, installed size 6408 kB
[18:06] <indio> bluefox83: thanks
[18:06] <bard1988> hey, i was wondering how to shut down desktop
[18:06] <erUSUL> linuxftw: yes 'sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8'
[18:06] <linuxftw> thanks er
[18:06] <aheckler> has anyone here added GetDeb to their sources.list before?
[18:06] <kiamo> heya
[18:06] <u_angel> bluefox:  /etc/init.d/vnc-server: command not found
[18:06] <erUSUL> bard1988: System>Exit
[18:07] <Strangelv> Anyone who hasn't heard me ask 5 times already know what can provide dynamic color and gamma adjustment? I'm needing to disable this feature
[18:07] <TheEagle> changing screen resolution with xrandr? help
[18:07] <_nix_> Strangelv: oh.. k does it support DHT yet? I've got a test torrent -- a file filled with zeroes.. only to exchange out DHT bases. It's good to have a lot of peers
[18:07] <bluefox83> u_angel, i don't actually know the service name, i was just guessing...
[18:07] <kiamo> can anyone help me setup my laptop to boot of my ubuntu box via a network cable
[18:07] <Strangelv> _nix_: what is DHT?
[18:07] <bard1988> i want to run X -configure command
[18:07] <bard1988> and it says Fatal server error:
[18:07] <bard1988> Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
[18:07] <kiamo> i presume i have to set something up ubuntu side
[18:07] <linuxftw> ooh, if i downloaded a file that needed  libssl0.9.8 but i didn't have it will it be recognised on it's own after i install it or do i have to re-download the file?
[18:08] <_nix_> Strangelv: Disributed Hash Table.. peers of the same torrent are able to exchange state info with each other and thus reduce relience on the tracker
[18:08] <aheckler> linuxftw: it will be recognized on it's own
[18:08] <bard1988> I want to run X - configure command
[18:08] <linuxftw> ok
[18:08] <bard1988> and it says
[18:08] <bard1988> Fatal server error:
[18:08] <bard1988> Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
[18:08] <Strangelv> _nix_: sounds nice.  I've not kept up and can't help
[18:08] <TheEagle> how do i change screen resolution with xrandr?
[18:09] <aheckler> linuxftw: just install the libssl0.9.8 and then try to install the file you downloaded again
[18:09] <cox377> does an ext HDD have to be mounted, it's visable via the gui but not via command line - - I'm assuming its under /media
[18:09] <_nix_> Strangelv: oh.. nevermind. :-)
[18:09] <linuxftw> ty :p
[18:09] <bluefox83> u_angel, sudo /etc/init.d/vncserver start
[18:09] <aheckler> yep
[18:09] <Strangelv> TheEagle: xrandr?
[18:09] <aheckler> has anyone here added GetDeb to their sources.list before?
[18:09] <bard1988> guys?
[18:09] <TheEagle> Strangelv: yes
[18:09] <Don64> bard1988: try <cnt><alt><backspace>    it restarts x
[18:10] <bard1988> iv tries to logout
[18:10] <linuxftw> i.e it's liek logoff on windows
[18:10] <bard1988> and it didnt help
[18:10] <mzanfardino> I've read man dpkg and man apt-get as well as http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html and still cant' seem to find any reference to how one might use apt-get to install a package to a directory that is different than the default for that package.  Anyone else have any ideas?
[18:10] <cox377> external hdd anyonbe?
[18:10] <t4m1n0> Why I can't load visualizations in amarok ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46989/
[18:10] <linuxftw> oh.. umm what did you do to make it mess up?
[18:10] <TheEagle> Strangelv: any ideas?
[18:10] <bluefox83> aheckler, does getdeb have proper source.list type entry?
[18:10] <Strangelv> TheEagle: I don't know what xrandr is
[18:10] <bard1988> help pls :O
[18:11] <bard1988> how to
[18:11] <bard1988> Fatal server error:
[18:11] <bard1988> Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
[18:11] <linuxftw> hey ahenock
[18:11] <linuxftw> ./installer: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:11] <aheckler> bluefox83: well, i know you can add them to sources.list and then get updates, etc. from there, but i'm wondering if they have authentication, because it appears they dont
[18:11] <linuxftw> same error after i install lib
[18:11] <TheEagle> its something to type into console and change resolution i think
[18:11] <TheEagle> but you have to have a gui and won't work on a tty
[18:11] <linuxftw> !find libcrypto.so.0.9.7
[18:11] <Strangelv> bard1988: your problem is you need X to not be running, right?
[18:11] <ubotu> Package/file libcrypto.so.0.9.7 does not exist in gutsy
[18:11] <aheckler> bluefox83: which isnt really a huge deal, but if they do offer authentication, it'd be nice
[18:11] <bluefox83> aheckler, i wouldn't really bother with them anyways, most of the stuff they put on there is either in gutsy, or will likely be in backports at some point
[18:11] <linuxftw> D: omg
[18:11] <linuxftw> im dead..
[18:12] <bard1988> Strangelv: i want to run X - configure command
[18:12] <bard1988> Strangelv: but it keeps telling me
[18:12] <Strangelv> bard1988: try booting into single user mode -- or is it someone else I need to be telling thisL I can't keep track
[18:12] <aheckler> bluefox83, true but i like to live on the edge :-P
[18:12] <bard1988> Strangelv: boot what :P?
[18:12] <TheEagle> can anyone tell me how to use xrandr?
[18:12] <romantik> hello
[18:12] <romantik> i have a question
[18:12] <Strangelv> bard1988: in GRUB on bootup -- get it to list boot options
[18:12] <linuxftw> !find libcrypto.
[18:12] <ubotu> Found: libcrypto++-dev, libcrypto++-doc, libcrypto++-utils, libcrypto++6, libcryptokit-ocaml (and 1 others)
[18:13] <bard1988> Strangelv: how do i do that?
[18:13] <MilitantPotato> !backup > militantpotato
[18:13] <TheEagle> romantik: just ask your question and someone will try to answer it
[18:13] <bullgard4> [Gutsy, Gnome] Panel menu System > Beenden opens a dialog having 8 buttons. Where is the information, what programs are executed if I  press a button of them?
[18:13] <Strangelv> bard: GRUB comes up on boot.  In some situations it will present you wvith a menu by default
[18:13] <aheckler> bluefox83: just out of curiousity, how would one reverse those updates from getdeb? just remove their line from sources.list and then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[18:13] <Snowblind> how do i install soemthing from source files i downloaded?
[18:14] <Strangelv> bard1988: in others you'll need to hit something to force it to provide a menu
[18:14] <Strangelv> bard1988: no, I don't remember what to press
[18:14] <bullgard4> Snowblind: You should not. Rather download program packages from Ubuntu only.
[18:14] <bluefox83> aheckler, well, that'd clear it out of sources.list, but you'd need to remove each of the items you downloaded from them, yourself...
[18:14] <romantik> i have bought a 1 GB memory card for my MP4 player (microSD from SanDisk) and there was also a TransFlash Adapter... i wanna know what is that TransFlash Adapter for? it can't fit anywhere in the MP4 player's slots... is it for digital cameras?
[18:14] <Suva> Bleh, fun enough
[18:14] <Strangelv> Does anyone know how to shut down X Server without it starting instantly and without rebooting?
[18:14] <Snowblind> there is none for that specific program i need for my uni course
[18:15] <Suva> Ubuntu decided that it will start ignoring my soundcard
[18:15]  * Strangelv has sometimes needed this
[18:15] <Suva> Snowblind: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:15] <linuxftw> suvba disconnect it and reconnecvt
[18:15] <bard1988> Strangelv: thx anyway mate :p i go dancing with nmy GF :O lol
[18:15] <Suva> linuxftw: What?
[18:16] <bullgard4> Snowblind: What is the function of the specific university course program?
[18:16] <aheckler> bluefox83: hmm, perhaps there should be a way to do that, it seems weird that i'd have to manually reverse that, oh well... I'm happy with the new pidgin and tomboy
[18:16] <linuxftw> is it built in soundcard/
[18:16] <Suva> linuxftw: I am not going to dismember my laptop motherboard :P
[18:16] <linuxftw> ooh ouch.. that blows i have a yamaha legacy soundcard
[18:16] <linuxftw> when it dosn't work i just unplug-re-plug
[18:17] <Snowblind> its a Java editer called Editing Java Easily bullgard4. We have to use that one unfortunatly
[18:17] <Suva> $ lspci | grep Audio
[18:17] <Suva> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[18:17] <b0lland> hi #ubuntu, is there a way that I can do a command like ls, but instead of displaying directory size, it displays maximum directory depth for each directory? or would I have to do that with a script or something?
[18:17] <Suva> b0lland: script
[18:18] <bullgard4> Snowblind: I do not know much about Java internals. You better get advised by more knowledgeable persons than me.
[18:18] <TheEagle> how to use wireless?
[18:18] <Snowblind> okay, thanks alot anyway ;)
[18:19] <TheEagle> i can see my network and click on it, but it always says 0%
[18:19] <TheEagle> it will connect fine on windows
[18:19] <TheEagle> and it is always the same distance away
[18:19] <Cyrus25801> can i install ubuntu 7.10 over 7.04 without loosing data on my hard drive. not rally worried about the settings
[18:20] <bullgard4> Snowblind: Re-word your question with an emphasis to Java editor and put it here in the channel anew.
[18:20] <Suva> Cyrus25801: Upgrade
[18:20] <b0lland> Suva ok
[18:20] <erUSUL> !upgrade | Cyrus25801
[18:20] <ubotu> Cyrus25801: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:20] <Suva> b0lland: Keywords are: find, sort, uniq
[18:21] <TheEagle> pike_: i can see my network (wireless) and click on it but then it always says 0% and it will connect fine on windows and is the same distance away from the box
[18:21] <Suva> b0lland: Oh, and sed :P
[18:21] <Snowblind> Hey guys, does anyone know how i can install a Java Editor i downloaded?Its the same files as the windows install would have, just a zip. It says the files shjould work on linux anyway
[18:21] <Suva> Snowblind: Eclipse?
[18:21] <Snowblind> EJE
[18:21] <Cyrus25801> Suva: can i upgrade using the cd that was posted to me
[18:21] <Suva> Cyrus25801: I think so
[18:21] <Cyrus25801> erUSUL:
[18:21] <kristijan^^> hello
[18:21] <rockboxftw> !find games
[18:21] <ubotu> Found: kdegames, kdegames-card-data, kdegames-dbg, libkdegames-dev, libkdegames-doc (and 29 others)
[18:21] <kristijan^^> kako ste
[18:22] <irfan> hello everyone
[18:22] <kristijan^^> ima li nekoj
[18:22] <Cyrus25801> erUSUL:  can i upgrade using the cd that was posted to me
[18:22] <Snowblind> Suva: EJE
[18:22] <kristijan^^> ej akko e
[18:22] <bullgard4> Cyrus25801: It is always advisable to first backup your data. In most cases an upgrade is harmless to your data but you never know.
[18:22] <sandrot_> is there anyway I can run aptitude installl without interactive configuration showing up? I'm trying to install postfix with a script but it stops when aptitude asks for user input
[18:22] <rockboxftw> ummanyone know any fps games for linux that AREN'T tremulous
[18:22] <romantik> i have bought a 1 GB memory card for my MP4 player (microSD from SanDisk) and there was also a TransFlash Adapter alongside with that 1 GB mamory card... i wanna know what is that TransFlash Adapter for? it can't fit anywhere in the MP4 player's slots... is it for a digital camera perhaps or a mobile phone?
[18:22] <irfan> anybody here knows about X windows display wide screen issue?
[18:22] <Suva> http://www.claudiodesio.com/eje.htm
[18:23] <rockboxftw> roman
[18:23] <rockboxftw> it's for your camera's dude
[18:23] <Dr_willis> rockboxftw,  world of padman, urbanterror, RTCW:ET
[18:23] <Suva> Snowblind: This one?
[18:23] <rockboxftw> and some PC's have those slots
[18:23] <bullgard4> Cyrus25801: You can use the Ubuntu CD for upgrading.
[18:23] <bluefox83> rockboxftw, widescreen issue?
[18:23] <Suva> irfan: What kind of issue?
[18:23] <rockboxftw> no my graphics sooo frappy
[18:23] <rockboxftw> i dont know why
[18:23] <b0lland> suva: how about keywords find + ruby || python :]
[18:23] <Snowblind> Suva: http://www.eje-home.de/ this one
[18:24] <Cyrus25801> tanx all
[18:24] <rockboxftw> first it wouldnt even launch but there someone named pelos' helped me run it then it was liek i can';t even play on it cause it's so damn sloow
[18:24] <matteo> Hi
[18:24] <bluefox83> rockboxftw, have the correct drivers for your video card?
[18:24] <matteo> I made a set of scripts to encode audio and video for the PSP, iPod and NOkia phones
[18:24] <Suva> Der deutchen javan editoren :P
[18:25] <matteo> I have ubuntu packages, via PPA
[18:25] <matteo> http://teknoraver.campuslife.it/software/mp4tools/
[18:25] <Snowblind> lol :x
[18:25] <rockboxftw> idk lol i don't know if it's my video card
[18:25] <rockboxftw> but i have a reakky ikd oc
[18:25] <irfan> suva, I have just boot up Ubuntu 7.10 on dell inspiron 6400
[18:25] <irfan> laptop
[18:25] <irfan> Here are the specs:
[18:25] <irfan> Core2Duo Processor T5300 (1.73GHz,533MHz)
[18:25] <irfan> 15.4" UltraSharp Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440x900) TrueLife
[18:25] <irfan> Display
[18:25] <irfan> Memory Dual-Channel 1024MB (2x512) 533MHz DDR2 SDRAM
[18:25] <irfan> Hard Drive 120GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM)
[18:25] <irfan> DVD+/-RW (Read/Write) 8X Fixed Internal
[18:25] <irfan> Integrated Intel Media Accelerator 950
[18:25] <irfan> Software Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy Advanced HD
[18:25] <Suva> b0lland: Why ruby? Why python?
[18:25] <irfan> Audio
[18:25] <irfan> Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-PCI Card
[18:25] <T1m0thy> ...
[18:25] <irfan> (for Core 2 Duo Processor)
[18:25] <matteo> beta testers are velcome
[18:25] <irfan> Now the problem
[18:25] <irfan> I am not getting the expected display resolution i.e
[18:25] <irfan> 15.4" UltraSharp Wide Screen WXGA+ (1440x900) TrueLife
[18:25] <irfan> Display
[18:25] <matteo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/teknoraver/ubuntu gutsy main
[18:26] <matteo> apt-get install mp4tools
[18:26] <Suva> irfan: Tried system -> admin -> screens and graphics?
[18:26] <rockboxftw> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[18:26] <rockboxftw>  <== trmulousnerror
[18:26] <Thurin1> Is it possible to use Gparted on the same disk you are running it from?
[18:26] <b0lland> Suva: that's a long discussion, but generally because it's more intuitive than e.g. bash :)
[18:26] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  no. Use a gparted live cd - is a better idea
[18:26] <irfan> I did that but it shows only 1024 x 780
[18:27] <romantik> i have bought a 1 GB memory card for my MP4 player (microSD from SanDisk) and there was also a TransFlash Adapter alongside with that 1 GB memory card... i wanna know what is that TransFlash Adapter for? it can't fit anywhere in the MP4 player's slots... is it for a digital camera perhaps or a mobile phone?
[18:27] <bluefox83> irfan, you might want to just configure xorg.conf with yoru desired resolution by hand...
[18:27] <Suva> b0lland: That's too short script though :P
[18:27] <rockboxftw> what's a mesa ??
[18:27] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: ;)
[18:27] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: Is Gparted 'safe' and by that I mean about as reliable as Partition magic?
[18:27] <rockboxftw> blue think you cna help me get tremulous running again.. it gave me  erSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[18:28] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  given the TOTAL DISASTER that partition magic was for me.. I would say Gparted is very safe
[18:28] <Thurin1> I'm on EXT2... so a bad crash heh will not be a good thing :D
[18:28] <irfan> hey bro tried but then it starts crashing
[18:28] <Cyrus25801> bullgard4: i read the upgrade info on ubuntu website. it says i need to u apply all updates.but they are 350 mb. is there a way to update only essentials.
[18:28] <hitane> Hi. I can't get my laptop's wifi card to work correctly
[18:28] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: haha - you had bad luck with PM?
[18:28] <irfan> is there any driver I need to install for this
[18:28] <Thurin1> Worked well for me
[18:28] <bluefox83> rockboxftw, what vid card are you using?
[18:28] <rockboxftw> uugh idk..
[18:28] <rockboxftw> let me try and check.,..
[18:28] <rstanca> i have an usb wiki stick, based on zd1211 chipset, I get and error regarding linux/config.h error when I try to build the module with module assistant. anyone know more info on this, I'm running gutsy
[18:28] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  besides the company constantly $*&&@&@ me over for more $$ and the software not doing what i wanted.. then  them wanting more #$$ for updates.. yes..
[18:28] <erUSUL> Cyrus25801: you can only upgrade with the alternate cd the livecd can not be used to ugrade a system
[18:28] <rstanca> wifi that is
[18:28] <Thurin1> Cyrus25801: Yes, manual selection in Synaptic.
[18:29] <ZeroMS> Can somebody help :( pls I tried to upgrade to Gutsy Gibbon and I get the following error msgs.:
[18:29] <bluefox83> rockboxftw, lspci | grep VGA
[18:29] <ZeroMS> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/di...6/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[18:29] <Dr_willis> For the $$ ive blown on PM and other windows tools.. I could buy a nice pc. :)
[18:29] <Thurin1> Cyrus25801: You don't always have to upgrade by the way.. unless it's critical, affects a program you need, or your a paranoid security nut! :]
[18:29] <bullgard4> Cyrus25801: Yes. You can choose by hand what you want to download and what not.
[18:29] <rockboxftw> bluefox83:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200 AGP (rev 03)
[18:29] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: lol, ok .. I never had problems with it - but then again I still use Windows NT 4 haha
[18:29] <irfan> any one know where can I get information regarding this
[18:29] <Dr_willis> a matrox card? wow/ :) aint seen one of those in ages...
[18:30] <romantik> please help!
[18:30] <romantik> i have bought a 1 GB memory card for my MP4 player (microSD from SanDisk) and there was also a TransFlash Adapter alongside with that 1 GB memory card... i wanna know what is that TransFlash Adapter for? it can't fit anywhere in the MP4 player's slots... is it for a digital camera perhaps or a mobile phone?
[18:30] <rockboxftw> danmot oroman i already answred you!
[18:30] <bluefox83> rockboxftw, you'll need to google for installing matrox video drivers in ubuntu..only cards i am familiar with are nvidia
[18:30] <rockboxftw> listen
[18:30] <Dr_willis> romantik,  why is this question so crtical? its an adaptor for some types of camera/pc/gizmos would be my guyess.
[18:30] <Thurin1> romantik: Sort of way off topic don't you think?
[18:30] <Cyrus25801> erUSUL: is the cd that was posted to me the live cd??
[18:30] <Thurin1> romantik: - ubuntu-offtopic
[18:30] <rockboxftw> ROMAN that extra slot is for expansiopn some pc's have slots
[18:30] <rockboxftw> otherowrds tit's an apdapter..
[18:31] <noplease> hi
[18:31]  * Dr_willis has a whole box of differnt card/adaptors/thangs
[18:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:31] <T1m0thy> I have Adobe Flash Player installed and things such as YouTube won't load. Is there a known fix for this oris it a known bug?
[18:31] <rockboxftw> i do sadley..
[18:31] <erUSUL> Cyrus25801: if it boots into an usable desktop yes
[18:31] <T1m0thy> I reinstalled Gutsy, and it won't work now.
[18:31] <rockboxftw> umm did you do sloppy install?
[18:31] <ZeroMS> help me pls :(
[18:32] <rockboxftw> or clean
[18:32] <T1m0thy> Clean.
[18:32] <Cyrus25801> thanx again everyone
[18:32] <rockboxftw> hmmp ... cd scratched?
[18:32] <rockboxftw> what part isn;t working?
[18:32] <netdefiler> I've been having problems with getting a script to run every minute. It's setup as * * * * * root /etc/scripts/screenit.sh using crontab -e, and by editting /etc/crontab but it never seems to run the script. Any ideas?
[18:32] <erUSUL> Cyrus25801: if you requested it in shipit.ubuntu.com then *it* *is* the livecd
[18:32] <frederic> hello
[18:32] <Thurin1> T1m0thy: Should work - but with Ubuntu from what I can remember at times you need to manually place the flash plugin in /lib/mozilla or something.
[18:32] <rambo3> netdefiler, chmod +x ?
[18:33] <Thurin1> *sometimes* it usually works right from install :|
[18:33] <T1m0thy> rockboxftw: I loaded YouTube, went through the wizard, installed Adobe Flash. Restarted Firefox, wouldn't load. Then tried with Synaptic, etc.
[18:33] <Thurin1> T1m0thy: No no..
[18:33] <rockboxftw> umm did you install the "non-free" verison?
[18:33] <netdefiler> rambo3: it's 777'd
[18:33] <elvelind> hi. I'm having some troubles with installing mysql. after install I can't connect to it. normally there is a root user with no password.
[18:33] <netdefiler> but not +x
[18:33] <T1m0thy> rockboxftw: Yes.
[18:33] <Thurin1> T1m0thy: You must install it manually or from Synaptic the 'firefox' install is not good in Ubuntu i've found
[18:33] <rockboxftw> did you try da other one?
[18:33] <dlocaus> hello!
[18:33] <T1m0thy> ok
[18:34] <T1m0thy> Which? Gnash?
[18:34] <hitane> http://i8.tinypic.com/6ljyv49.png
[18:34] <Thurin1> Because usually your running X as a user and the install ... is better done as sudo/root
[18:34] <Suva> b0lland: ind /lib | sed 's:.*/\([^/]*\)/.*:\1:' | sort | uniq -c
[18:34] <Suva> b0lland: find /lib | sed 's:.*/\([^/]*\)/.*:\1:' | sort | uniq -c
[18:34] <Suva> b0lland: Ain't that simple and intuitive :P
[18:34] <b0lland> suva haha
[18:34] <b0lland> Suva thanks a lot
[18:34] <dlocaus> does anyone know how to recover a file from a harddrive that isn't mountable? (the start of the harddrive is fubar)?
[18:34] <hitane> http://i8.tinypic.com/6ljyv49.png <-- All I get when I click on the button. There are many wireless networks here
[18:34] <Sirisian> Anyone ever set up pykota? I guess you can't use the SVN version right? When I run the setup script it says it's broken
[18:34] <rockboxftw> dlocaus u can't:p
[18:34] <rockboxftw> waiy,
[18:34] <Thurin1> T1m0thy: google.com --- install flash player, download the linux version (the page should automatically link you to it) follow adobe's instructions - should work like a charm after 'ldconfig' as root.
[18:34] <rockboxftw> try slaving it
[18:35] <dlocaus> rockboxftw: slaving it?
[18:35] <irfan> I am still waiting some reply or issue
[18:35] <T1m0thy> Thurin1: Thanks.
[18:35] <rockboxftw> uugh umm  you have to add it to you hdd cables
[18:35] <Goosemoose> anyone used a network install and a preseed file with apt-cacher?
[18:35] <rockboxftw> and set jumpers to slave
[18:35] <Goosemoose> i keep getting told the specified mirror is not available or does not have a valid release file on it
[18:35] <fox88> can someone help me with opengl
[18:35] <dlocaus> rockboxftw: that is already been done.
[18:35] <Thurin1> T1m0thy: Yup, and don't forget to 'sudo ldconfig' whne you are done installing it as adobe instructs.
[18:35] <fox88> nvidia
[18:35] <rockboxftw> hmmp is it being read?
[18:35] <dlocaus> rockboxftw: the problem is that the "other" linux system refuses to mount it.
[18:36] <Thurin1> or else your libraries may not get updated and flash... sometimes will stay inactive ;)
[18:36] <rockboxftw> is the harddrive from a difrent pc?
[18:36] <dlocaus> rockboxftw: sometimes the bios recongizes the harddisk as actually existing, but other times, it won't see it.
[18:36] <dlocaus> rockboxftw: the HD is in a different PC now.
[18:36] <rockboxftw> becauseall operating system other then dos, 95,98 are non trasnferable thru boxes
[18:36] <netdefiler> rambo3: chmod +x didnt work
[18:36] <Thurin1> dlocaus: Your bios refuses to see the disk sometimes?
[18:36] <dlocaus> Thurin1: yes.
[18:36] <Thurin1> dlocaus: I'd start backing up - sounds to me like a drive on the way out.
[18:36] <Ryan_was_here> Anyone have the problem of Google earth hangning at the splash screen?
[18:36] <fox88> can someone help me set up opengl on LTS
[18:36] <justine_> hi
[18:36] <rockboxftw> fox
[18:37] <Sirisian> T1m0thy, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash that's the version you need by the way
[18:37] <dlocaus> Thurin1: a bit passed that point... :), I can't even boot or mount it.
[18:37] <rockboxftw> is it the game error when u launch it?
[18:37] <Thurin1> fox88: You want mesa yeah
[18:37] <robeph> is there a util that does about the same as ls /etc/rcX.d?
[18:37] <rockboxftw> open in terminal
[18:37] <fox88> I CANT GET IT AT ALL
[18:37] <Thurin1> dlocaus: :| Oh noes! :|
[18:37] <fox88> no caps
[18:37] <justine_> I'd like to recursively scan a directory and print out all the files that have a specific character like é è and so on...
[18:37] <fox88> glxgears gives this
[18:37] <rockboxftw>  +set r_allowSoftwareGL 1
[18:37] <robeph> similar to gentoos rc-config show
[18:37] <Jimmey> I have put a bin file in /opt and put a link to it in /usr/local/bin - I thought that's all I needed to do to make it run from the command line - What else should I do?
[18:37] <fox88> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[18:37] <fox88> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[18:37] <justine_> in my loop echo $i | grep é doesn't work
[18:37] <netdefiler> where does the cron log file live?
[18:37] <bluefox83> wow it's weird seeing another fox from the 80's :P
[18:37] <robeph> justine_: ls -R <x> | grep ???
[18:38] <Thurin1> dlocaus: Hrmm, you know what you should do? last ditch effort? - try to 'mount' it .. in Windows with the EXT3 driver... you might be able to save .. some data maybe
[18:38] <rockboxftw> luls
[18:38] <dlocaus> Thurin1: Is there some program that will read the harddisk in block mode and try and figure ou the OS from there?
[18:38] <dlocaus> Thurin1: sorry, figure out the files from there?
[18:38] <Thurin1> dlocaus: Yes and no.. there is yes, but they are highly experimental and .. could damage whatever data you have on the disk
[18:38] <justine_> robeph, i am doing for i in $( ls -R ); do echo $i | grep é done and it doesn't work
[18:38] <dlocaus> Thurin1: I hadn't thought of that, I'll check around for windows EXT3 driver
[18:39] <b0lland> suva: thanks for the effort but it doesn't seem to get the count right for some reason
[18:39] <rambo3> netdefiler, ok you should ask again, maby somone else  knows
[18:39] <Thurin1> dlocaus: Well there is a drive for windows which allows the mounting of EXT3 disks - since windows has so much less 'requirements' for a 'good' disk - you may be able to see inside it and save what you need from it.
[18:39] <robeph> justine_: why all that?
[18:39] <huss> please help me how to restore my ubuntu?
[18:39] <robeph> doesn't just ls -R | grep X work?
[18:39] <goodhabit> Hello. When I was installing ubuntu gutsy, I choosed option to do not install GRUB. How I can install it now with ubuntu-auto configuration it?
[18:39] <justine_> i'll try robeph
[18:39] <Suva> b0lland: Haha, okay, let me check
[18:40] <dlocaus> Thurin1: do you know of any programs that will look at a harddisk as a device to read, instead of a storage mechanisem to mount?
[18:40] <Thurin1> dlocaus: ;) yeah give it a shot.. windows like I said is not as strict as what is a 'good' or 'bad' disk - but if EXT3 driver and windows can't do it .. i'm afraid your disk is beyond hope.. unless you go to a real pro at data recovery I guess
[18:40] <robeph> dlocaus: you trying to just read the contents?
[18:40] <Thurin1> dlocaus: Heh.. windows
[18:40] <dlocaus> robeph: I just need 1 file from that harddisk...
[18:40] <justine_> yes it works robeph, thanks. Any way to have the absolute pathway printed out instaed of just the filename?
[18:40] <dlocaus> robeph: I was smart enough to back it up, just not to a different system.
[18:40] <gaoyang> is安逸body
[18:40] <robeph> dlocaus: eh,  well see,  you're misisng what mounting does
[18:40] <robeph> it doesn't just "mount the disk"
[18:41] <gaoyang> is any body here?
[18:41] <robeph> it mounts the disk and supplies the correct method for access that block devices specific filesystem
[18:41] <robeph> ie ext2 / 3  reiser ntfs etc
[18:41] <Thurin1> In windows I used the EXT3 driver to salvage data from an old IBM 175MB disk which Linux would not mount with kernel panics and god knows what else.
[18:41] <Dr_willis> gaoyang,  Just us Linux Nerds :)
[18:41] <netdefiler> I've been having problems with getting a script to run every minute. It's setup as * * * * * root /etc/scripts/screenit.sh using crontab -e, and by editting /etc/crontab but it never seems to run the script. Any ideas?
[18:41] <robeph> if you just read it right out,  you're gonna get a mess
[18:41] <robeph> you really cannot get any simpler than just mounting it,
[18:41] <robeph> afaik
[18:42] <Jimmey> What do I have to do to make a binary run from the command line by just typing it's name?
[18:42] <Thurin1> Back ups are always best on removable media dlocaus ;) keep that in mind.. get some CD-RWS and get used to it haha
[18:42] <dlocaus> robeph: humm, I was hoping that a recovery program would be able to find information on the device.. since linux is self-defragmenting, it could do it w/o the superblock.
[18:42] <robeph> Jimmey: put it in your path
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  ./whateverthethingis
[18:42] <samgranieri> what's the best way to turn an ubuntu desktop with gnome installed into a headless server?
[18:42] <gaoyang> Dr_willis....
[18:42] <robeph> dlocaus:  is the fs busted?
[18:42] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  assuming its excecutable.
[18:42] <Thurin1> dlocaus: Linux is picky you see
[18:42] <Suva> b0lland: Sure, i was stupid :P
[18:42] <dlocaus> robeph: I believe so.
[18:42] <robeph> dlocaus: it's a screwed up file system on there?
[18:42] <gaoyang> hee
[18:42] <dlocaus> robeph: it is a bit hard to find out.
[18:42] <AngryElf> I'm looking to get a new laptop, and I want the wireless and video to work amazingly well out of the box w/ Ubuntu Gutsy -- any recommendations?
[18:42] <Jimmey> robeph, Dr_willis, it's in /opt/ with a link to it in /usr/local/bin/
[18:42] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,  install the services.. remove the monitor. :)
[18:42] <b0lland> suva: oh yeah?
[18:42] <dlocaus> robeph: I can't find out.  I can't mount it.
[18:43] <robeph> Jimmey: is it set as executable
[18:43] <Suva> b0lland: Actually it's even simpler :P
[18:43] <Thurin1> Windows is not picky.. you can have bad errors and totally skip disk checks :) not so in Linux for the most part
[18:43] <robeph> dlocaus: why not?
[18:43] <Jimmey> AngryElf, you can buy a computer with Ubuntu on it from Dell
[18:43] <b0lland> suva you're such a tease
[18:43] <robeph> dlocaus:  I mean there's a ton of reasons you couldn't mount tihngs
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  try giving the full path to the binary
[18:43] <dlocaus> robeph: when I try and boot from it, logical sectors 0-7 are bad, and then nothing happens.
[18:43] <Suva> b0lland: It's simplest in ruby though ;D
[18:43] <Jimmey> robeph, I've chmod + x it
[18:43] <robeph> dlocaus: boot from livecd and try mounting it?
[18:43] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, what do you mean?
[18:43] <Thurin1> AngryElf: Yeah, go search the net for Laptops which are known to work well with Ubuntu ;D
[18:43] <samgranieri> Dr_willis:  i'm trying to remove X and everything that depends on it, so that I can just ssh into the box
[18:43] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  /whatever/the/path/to/the/darn/thing/command
[18:43] <robeph> Jimmey: /usr/local/bin/<filename>
[18:43] <Thurin1> AngryElf: I'd stay away from the Sony's though...
[18:43] <gaoyang> there are so many guys
[18:43] <linduxed> my kopete icon doesnt go to the tray anymore..just a miniwindow instead
[18:43] <b0lland> Suva: pretty please with sugar on top?
[18:44] <robeph> make sure that your path route is actually pointing to the correct bin
[18:44] <dlocaus> I've tried mounting it a "recovery" concel that came w/ 7.10
[18:44] <dlocaus> but it just gave me invalid argument.
[18:44] <bullgard4> [Gutsy, Gnome] Panel menu System > Beenden opens a dialog having 8 buttons. Where is the information, what programs are executed if I  press a button of them?
[18:44] <Thurin1> linduxed: Have you checked your options in Kopete?
[18:44] <robeph> dlocaus: hrm,  i dunno really tbh =(
[18:44] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, robeph, right, but it would be nice if I could just type the name of the binary into the terminal, in this case mobmc, and have it run - How can I do that?
[18:44] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,  an ISSUE can be if the hd has an probllem. the boot up messages will mention the disk scanning, and request input.   You may want to keep a cheap/small monitor on it. or handy.
[18:44] <Sergo> hello, i have an problem..
[18:44] <dlocaus> robeph: ok, well thank you!
[18:44] <linduxed> Thurin1: well everything was right before reboot
[18:44] <Dr_willis> Jimmey,  check your PATH $PATH, it may be your pathis just messed up
[18:44] <samgranieri> the HD is fine
[18:45] <ItchyHobo> Jimmey, make an alias 4 it in bash.rc
[18:45] <dlocaus> Thurin1: thank you too, but I've gone to USB thumb drives, those 1G SD cards are really cheap now... :)
[18:45] <Sergo> the flashplugin-nonfree cannot be installed
[18:45] <Thurin1> linduxed: You should still check your options, if that is not the problem.. easiest - synaptic, remove - re-install and see what happens.
[18:45] <linduxed> Thurin1: oh and i get a "cannot talk to klauncher message"
[18:45] <Sergo> i get The Flash plugin is NOT installed
[18:45] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,  it is RIGHT NOW.. but what about next week.. when you are somewhere else and cant ssh in.  because it rebooted and is waiting for you to hit ctrl-d to continue..
[18:45] <Thurin1> dlocaus: This is true this is true - but I still dont trust them lol haha. -- Personal taste :P
[18:45] <Jimmey> Dr_willis, robeph, thanks
[18:45] <samgranieri> only I ssh into the box for now
[18:45] <robeph> is there an ubuntu utility that works similar to the gentoo: rc-config show
[18:46] <robeph> (shows the runlevel / init script states etc)
[18:46] <Thurin1> linduxed: Ahh... well just 'run' - klauncher
[18:46] <samgranieri> Dr_willis: and someone else has acess to the box, and knows how to use ssh
[18:46] <dlocaus> Thurin1: I don't trust them either, I've heard of lots of failures.  However, I doubt they will both fail at the same time.
[18:46] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,  Ive seen it happen to others in here.   They got stuck couldent ssh in.
[18:46] <Thurin1> dlocaus: I sure hope not... :|
[18:46] <mikebeecham> Hi guys...I could do with some help...I've just rebooted my machine to discover that all my shared folders have disappeared....there is no indication of them in 'places' etc....but I dont know what caused this?
[18:46] <RoBz18> Installing ubuntu to a USB stick, I use this command: cp -rf casper disctree dists install pics pool preseed .disk isolinux/* md5sum.txt README.diskdefines ubuntu.ico casper/vmlinuz casper/initrd.gz /media/ubuntu710/
[18:46] <RoBz18> But I just get that there is no such file or directory
[18:46] <RoBz18> Any ideas what the problem could be?
[18:46] <samgranieri> Dr_willis:  i have console access. this is in my office
[18:46] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,  so do whatever you want. I advice keepiong a spare monitor handy just in case.
[18:46] <anton__> hi i am using xubuntu and my mesa/opengl isnt working
[18:46] <samgranieri> Dr_willis: there's a monitor connected to the server anyway. i'm fine
[18:46]  * Dr_willis frogot the original question. :)
[18:47] <sharperguy> what is proc?
[18:47] <cox377> my external HD is /media/extHD/ is that classified as being mounted?
[18:47] <samgranieri> Dr_willis: i'm taking a linux desktop with gnome and x installed down to a headless server
[18:47] <anton__> but i dont know what todo, my graphiccard is intel gma950
[18:47] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,  'headless' = no monitor.  so you just sort of contridicted yourself.
[18:47] <huss> please any private help to restore my defected ubuntu
[18:47] <Dr_willis> remove X if youy want. or just dont start the gdm/kdm service.
[18:48] <Ereal1> hello eveyone
[18:48] <samgranieri> ah... i thought headless meant no-x
[18:48] <Ereal1> umm question
[18:48] <Dr_willis> samgranieri,   :)
[18:48] <mikebeecham> Hi guys...I could do with some help...I've just rebooted my machine to discover that all my shared folders have disappeared....there is no indication of them in 'places' etc....but I dont know what caused this?
[18:48] <mikebeecham> can anyone help?
[18:48] <Dr_willis> why even bother removing X.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> its not taking up that much space. and ya could alweays set up xdmcp on the thing later if needed.
[18:48] <ashkore> Is it useful being able to program in c or c++ in linux?
[18:49] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: I have no X..
[18:49] <Thurin1> :|
[18:49] <Thurin1> X annoys me...
[18:49] <ItchyHobo> mikebeecham, were u using windows?
[18:49] <Dr_willis> Thurin1,  I got Enough X for 3 of us. :) XxX.
[18:49] <Ereal1> very
[18:49] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: haha
[18:49] <Ereal1> python more so in ubuntu
[18:49] <samgranieri> ashkore:  yes, it is
[18:49]  * Dr_willis installs W on Thurin1 's box.
[18:49] <Dr_willis> or was it called Y.
[18:49] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, are the directories still there physically? just cus they are gone from places doesn't mean they are necassarily gone
[18:49] <Thurin1> Much better ;D
[18:49] <Thurin1> Presidential edition
[18:49] <Thurin1> hehe
[18:49] <ashkore> samgranieri: ok thanks, how do you recomend i do this?
[18:49] <Ereal1> C and c++ as I know it are the most widely use programs
[18:50] <mikebeecham> ItchyHobo: no...I've been on Linux for about a week or so...everything was fine this morning...all my shares were there.  I come home, add some lines to my menu.lst...reboot, and now they are not there
[18:50] <samgranieri> ashkore: i'd use gcc
[18:50] <Dr_willis> I recall some guy making a alterantive to X,  but that was years ago.
[18:50] <ashkore> samgranieri: i mean, which tutorial would you recommend?
[18:50] <samgranieri> ashkore: google around for an introductory class or webpage for how to use gcc for c
[18:50] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: all references to the shared folders are gone, with the exception of 'shared folders'.  The path is still there, but tells me it is inaccessible
[18:50] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, try sudo mount -a
[18:50] <samgranieri> ashkore: i dont know
[18:50] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: I've heard of people making alternatives to flash as well which I really hope happens.
[18:51] <Ereal1> anyone know why ubuntu 7.10 no longer has a splash at bootup and why it take longer to load all I get is a bage screen ?.....
[18:51] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, samba shared or nfs?
[18:51] <ashkore> samgraneri: are there any tutorials about learning linux?
[18:51] <cox377> hello all, is /media/extHD a mount point?
[18:51]  * Ereal1 is this just me?!
[18:51] <mikebeecham> thats a good point bluefox83 my mounted drives are not visible on my desktop
[18:51] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: samba
[18:51] <Thurin1> Dr_willis: Well there is one alternative to X that actually works.. but it's not the best ever since compatibility is quite low.. for anything besides the included apps - I forget the name but its on the xwinman or.. winman site
[18:51] <ashkore> because i am only 15 and have only just started using it after 10 years of windows
[18:51] <Nirevus> I'm currently trying to install a driver through NDISWrapper; the installation guide tells me to run "depmod -a" and make sure it doesn't error. However it gives me a FATAL error, but the documentation doesn't tell me what to do. Any help?
[18:51] <Ereal1> ashkore dl books or just his the forums
[18:51] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, you might want to check your samba config file and make sure it didn't somehow get erased...
[18:51] <Ereal1> or just hang around and lern
[18:52] <Ereal1> etherway if your new
[18:52] <david__> Woohoo
[18:52] <david__> wireless works
[18:52] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: neither of my mounted drives are visible..
[18:52] <Ereal1> it just a matter of playing around with it and time...
[18:52] <samgranieri> ashkore: welcome to the wonderful world of opensource
[18:52] <david__> I got the answer from a fedora forum...
[18:52] <samgranieri> ashkore: you could use a program like kdevelop or anjuta if you like the gui
[18:52] <ashkore> lol - what does that exactly mean?
[18:52]  * david__ don't you feel bad...
[18:52] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46992/
[18:53] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, is it at all possible that you had a second partition with ubuntu installed on it?
[18:53]  * Ereal1 who here has amd64bit box?
[18:53] <ItchyHobo> ashkore, means welcome to the real world of computing
[18:53] <robeph> is there an ubuntu utility that works similar to the gentoo: rc-config show
[18:53] <robeph> (shows the runlevel / init script states etc)
[18:53]  * linduxed has one
[18:53] <danbhfive> Nirevus: what does depmod -a do?  also, I can give you a different guide...
[18:53] <david__> AR5006EG  if you have that wireless card, I can tell you how to use it with madwifi
[18:53] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: ..setup as follows: primary HDD =- two partitions - windows and linux 7.10
[18:53]  * samgranieri agrees with ItchyHobo 
[18:53] <Ereal1> has anyone had the problem of flash not having sound and if so, have you8 found a fix
[18:53] <david__> not ndiswrapper
[18:53] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: secondary HDD called 'media' with all my shares
[18:54] <MurielGodoi> Hi, can I just delete the files under /var/cache/apt to save disk space, or there is a right way to do that?
[18:54] <Nirevus> danbhfive: it doesn't say, it simply tells you to run it and make sure it doesn't error. Any other help would be appreciated.
[18:54] <ItchyHobo> ashkore, if you are using ubuntu the built in help is a pretty good place to start
[18:54] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: samba.conf is still there
[18:54] <ashkore> ok cheers (y)
[18:54] <ashkore> * sorry, used to msn emoticons
[18:54] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, ok, well it sounded like you discovered a second ubuntu partition or something...cus samba and fstab don't just suddenly lose their config files...
[18:54] <mikebeecham> I think it is down to my drives not being mounted
[18:55] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, check /etc/fstab
[18:55] <samgranieri> does anyone know how to take an ubuntu install from base server (no x, no gnome) to a fully functioning linux desktop? i tried doing this earlier and I couldnt get hte mouse driver to work at all
[18:55] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, once you make sure it's all sorted, just sudo mount -a and then i think just restart samba...
[18:55] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: there is no /fstab
[18:56] <robeph> samgranieri: whatcha mean mouse driver?
[18:56] <mikebeecham> sdorry I found it
[18:56] <robeph> for X?
[18:56] <Nirevus> danbhfive: Fixed my own problem.
[18:56] <cox377> basically, i've got app that is looking for an external HDD, is /media/FREECOM HDD/Downloads/ counted as a mounted point?
[18:56] <ashkore> i used the Screens and Graphics Manager to change my resolution choices so i could select 1280x1024. i then used xrandr -s 0/1280x1024 and my resolution was successfully changed. I restarted my computer and the login screen appeared at the correct resolution then when i logged in it just changed. how can i get it to stay at 1280x1024 when i login
[18:56] <samgranieri> robeph: yeah, for X.
[18:56] <robeph> when you say can't get it working
[18:56] <danbhfive> nirevus, good
[18:56] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, you have no idea how bad it woulda been to nto have an /etc/fstab :X
[18:56] <bluefox83> *not
[18:56] <ashkore> and what does 'X' mean, everybody seems to be using it
[18:56] <robeph> do you mean you dunno what to tell it the mouse device is?  ie /dev/psaux /dev/mouse or /dev/mice etc?
[18:56] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46993
[18:57] <robeph> ashkore: its what happens when you break up with your girlfriend
[18:57] <samgranieri> robeph: im not sure. i just ripped all the x and gnome stuff out of my system and reverted it to just a server
[18:57] <robeph> X = X11,   xorg
[18:57] <samgranieri> X11
[18:57] <huss> would any body on the private help me and it will be about that"I was uninstalling xfce-desktop And I marked many things to uninstall then synaptic stoped and ubuntu loged out then it didn't come back "plz if answer will be here write xfce at first
[18:57] <ItchyHobo> !X11
[18:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:57] <ashkore> whats is X11?
[18:57] <ashkore> and xorg
[18:57] <robeph> xorg/x11 is the thing that makes linux pretty
[18:58] <ashkore> the gui?
[18:58] <ItchyHobo> ashkore, the purty grphixx
[18:58] <robeph> well actually that's compiz/beryl
[18:58] <robeph> but
[18:58] <ashkore> so x = gui
[18:58] <huss> should i reinstall ununtu
[18:58] <huss> ?
[18:58] <robeph> no
[18:58] <samgranieri> ashkore: , yes the gui
[18:58] <ItchyHobo> ashkore, yep gooey
[18:58] <robeph> X is not a gui
[18:58] <robeph> thats the funny thing
[18:58] <robeph> x is a server
[18:58] <robeph> =s
[18:58] <ashkore> lol
[18:58] <robeph> it's confusions
[18:58] <robeph> but yeh,  it'll suffice to assume it's a gui
[18:58] <bluefox83> mikebeecham, i forget how samba handles shares...i don't remember you mount them, or you just restart the samba client...
[18:58] <robeph> but technically...sorta no
[18:58] <Dr_willis> robeph,  as purty as a 100lb hooker with 100lb of makeup. :)
[18:58] <ItchyHobo> don't scare em ;)
[18:58] <samgranieri> ashkore: robeph is right. X is actually the windowing server. the gui is something like gnome
[18:58] <goodhabit> Hello. When I was installing ubuntu gutsy, I choosed option to do not install GRUB. How I can install it now with ubuntu-auto configuration it?
[18:58] <robeph> Dr_willis: compiz is pretty :(
[18:58] <bullgard4> [Gutsy, Gnome] Panel menu System > Quit opens a dialog having 8 buttons. Where is the information, what programs are executed if I press a button of them?
[18:58] <samgranieri> ItchyHobo: if i wanted to scare him i'd have him install freebsd or gentoo
[18:59] <ItchyHobo> lol
[18:59] <mikebeecham> I might try restarting sambas
[18:59] <Dr_willis> X is the foundation  that the Other X apps use to build their guis on. :)
[18:59] <robeph> samgranieri: I'm using gentoo right now ... *hides*
[18:59] <ashkore> is the windowing server the thing tht renders the gui?
[18:59] <samgranieri> ItchyHobo: or better yet, openbsd!
[18:59] <robeph> sadly I'm here asking if somoene knows of something in ubuntu that I havce in gentoo
[18:59] <ashkore> so x = gui renderer
[18:59] <robeph> but cannot find :(
[18:59]  * ItchyHobo shudders
[18:59] <robeph> ashkore: yeh sorta
[18:59] <samgranieri> robeph: i'm on a mac sshing into an ubuntu box
[18:59] <ashkore> cool
[18:59] <sharperguy> what config file do i need to set the PATH variable and whatever variable that says where shared libraries are?
[18:59] <huss> I think I lost my gnome-desktop what should I do ?
[18:59] <mikebeecham> bluefox83: brb
[19:00] <robeph> ashkore: also,  gnome,  is a DE ,  desktop environment FOR X.... not a gui itself
[19:00] <robeph> =)
[19:00] <sharperguy> huss, sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[19:00] <ashkore> huss: go to terminal and type, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:00]  * Dr_willis installs jwm - that will show ya!
[19:00] <robeph> samgranieri: I just wanna know if there is something akin to gentoo: rc-config show  in ubuntu
[19:00] <Dr_willis> huss,  clarify what you mean by 'lost'
[19:00] <robeph> Dr_willis: last night,  in a drunken mess,  he misplaced it
[19:00] <robeph> :(
[19:00] <samgranieri> robeph: i'm not sure
[19:00]  * Dr_willis looks under the couch.
[19:00] <dis4ever> how to use xchat for msn please
[19:00] <robeph> it's underneath your openoffice icon
[19:00] <robeph> dis4ever: use pidgin
[19:01] <robeph> thzx
[19:01] <ashkore> robeph: so x controls the de?
[19:01] <dis4ever> i use kubuntu
[19:01] <robeph> well no the DE functions within the x server environment
[19:01] <robeph> heh
[19:01] <samgranieri> ashkore: there's a config file that runs at startup that runs a specific environment, like gnome, enlightenment, or kde
[19:01] <huss> I was trying to remove xfce so i marked many things on synaptic then i lost it i cant log to desktop
[19:01] <ashkore> yes, xorg.conf
[19:01] <robeph> see the cool thing bout X,   is if you run an x server on your machine,  you can run X apps (firefox)_  on a remote system and have it run on your desktop
[19:01] <robeph> the reason X is NTO a gui for example,   is that I can run X server in windows
[19:02] <robeph> if I so felt the urge (xming) etc
[19:02] <Seivan|> Could someone please help me with VNC
[19:02] <Seivan|> I'm trying to set up a VNC on my server so I can see what I am doing instead of just SSH
[19:02]  * samgranieri has to setup x11 forwarding for my system
[19:02] <hawodi> Hello all
[19:02] <ashkore> Seivan - whats a VNC?
[19:02] <robeph> yeh,  samgranieri I was just explaining some nuance differences between a gui,   windows XP,   and X11 and it's server client foobar.
[19:02] <xzased> Virtual Network Connection
[19:03] <wols_> !vnc
[19:03] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[19:03] <robeph> tightvnc = prolly simplest
[19:03] <hawodi> My having problem sending mail with mail() function in php
[19:03] <dis4ever> where can i find a kde mail client in kubuntu please
[19:03] <Seivan|> ashkore: vncserver
[19:03] <danbhfive> ashkore you can ask ubotu too, with the command /msg ubotu !vnc
[19:03] <huss> ashkore, sharperguy, i already did but how to log in again
[19:03] <hawodi> can anybody help pls
[19:03] <samgranieri> robeph: cool
[19:03] <ashkore> uboti !vnc
[19:03] <ashkore> ubotu !vnc
[19:03] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[19:03] <hawodi> am running desknow as my mail server
[19:03] <dis4ever> where can i find kmail or another client in my installation please
[19:04] <wols_> Seivan|: what ubuntu version?
[19:04] <Suva> Bleh...
[19:04] <dis4ever> it should be instatlled
[19:04] <dis4ever> kubuntu 7.10
[19:04] <b0lland> suva :]
[19:04] <Suva> Ubuntu changed my soundcard to "PC speaker"
[19:04] <sharperguy> huss, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"?
[19:04] <Suva> Now it can do "BEEP" and that's it
[19:04] <ashkore> so, remote desktop, is that when you can see someone elses desktop from another pc?
[19:04] <robeph> Suva: great for house music
[19:04] <robeph> ashkore: yeh sorta
[19:04] <robeph> ashkore: vnc does that
[19:04] <Sergo> the flashplugin-nonfree can't be installed, what's wrong?
[19:04] <robeph> its like windows rdp
[19:05] <ashkore> do the pcs have to be on the same network?
[19:05] <samgranieri> ashkore: it helps
[19:05] <robeph> ashkore: if you want it to work well
[19:05] <dis4ever> what is the best email client please for kde
[19:05] <b0lland> suva, been playing around with sed during your absence and my neighbours haven't heard a whole lot of cheers
[19:05] <wols_> !best
[19:05] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[19:05] <robeph> otherwise yo ugotta nuke the color depth and pretties
[19:05] <ashkore> can it be done on different networks
[19:05] <Sergo> !flash
[19:05] <dis4ever> and where to find it in my installation
[19:05] <wols_> ashkore: yes
[19:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[19:05] <tek-ops> hey all
[19:05] <robeph> dis4ever: wtf do you mean?
[19:05] <wols_> dis4ever: learn about synaptics
[19:05] <wols_> dis4ever: or adept
[19:05] <robeph> or slocate
[19:05] <Sergo> fucked up flashing..
[19:05] <dis4ever> i want to get my mail
[19:05] <tek-ops> I'm trying to patch a kernel module in the default dapper LTS kernel
[19:05] <wols_> !language | Sergo
[19:06] <ashkore> can i use vnc on ubuntu to see a windows desktop?
[19:06] <robeph> ashkore: yessir
[19:06] <Suva> b0lland: It's easyer to script in python, or php
[19:06] <ubotu> Sergo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:06] <ashkore> on my own network?
[19:06] <wols_> ashkore: yes, or you can use rdesktop
[19:06] <tek-ops> I got the packages, but can't find the .config for the kernel
[19:06] <robeph> use realvnc on the windows machine
[19:06] <dis4ever> just wanna know in what directory i can find a mail client please
[19:06] <wols_> ashkore: yes
[19:06] <Seivan|> How do I get into my tightvncserver from windows, it doesnt wor
[19:06] <Seivan|> work
[19:06] <wols_> dis4ever: mail. /usr/bin
[19:06] <ashkore> how can i do this?
[19:06] <robeph> Seivan|: realvnc?
[19:06] <Sergo> !pastebin
[19:06] <dis4ever> thanks
[19:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:06] <robeph> diff vncs prolly don't really differ so much in protocol
[19:06] <wols_> Seivan|: what ubuntu version?
[19:07] <unop> dis4ever, type this command - which sendmail
[19:07] <wols_> unop: that's no mailclient
[19:07] <Voker57> i have made my custom ubuntu livecd, but forgot about rehashing. So i'm getting a problem like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221933 Can i wrok around this?
[19:07] <b0lland> suva: I'm thinking it shouldn't be so hard if I just knew sed. use sed to substitute each / followed by text with x and then just wc or something on the result
[19:07] <unop> wols_ really .. what is it then? :)
[19:08] <Sergo> heh
[19:08] <Sergo> this linux is a time wasting
[19:08] <Seivan|> Ehm
[19:08] <CroX> How can I shut Compiz down? It was apparently activated when I enabled restrictive drivers for my gfx card. And I'm getting fed up with Compiz already.
[19:08] <wols_> unop: an MTA
[19:08] <Seivan|> What command should I use to install xfce +0
[19:08] <Seivan|> ?
[19:08] <Sergo> who can help me , can't install an plugin - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46996/
[19:08] <robeph> Is there a utility in ubuntu that functions similar to gentoo -> "rc-config show"  or gentoo -> "rc-status"  or redhat's checkconfig?
[19:08] <tek-ops> crox, if all else fails try ctrl-alt-backspace
[19:08] <Seivan|> sudo apt-get install xfce ?
[19:08] <bobbob1016> Can someone tell me how I can manually purge compiz, to reinstall it?  I think I'm getting mixed versions, and I've tried a few scripts to purge it, but I keep getting errors.  I've tried rm -R compiz* as well, but no luck.  Any ideas?  I asked in the compiz fusion channel, but no response yet.
[19:08] <ashkore> from ubuntu
[19:08] <ashkore> how can i view the desktop of a windows vista machine on my network by using ubuntu
[19:08] <tek-ops> where are the ubuntu kernel .config's held?
[19:08] <b0lland> suva but perhaps I should get down to ruby/python instead as you say
[19:09] <robeph> ashkore: install realVNC on the windows box
[19:09] <robeph> set it up
[19:09] <Voker57> ashkore: tightvnc
[19:09] <tek-ops> i need the default .config
[19:09] <wols_> ashkore: rdesktop or vncviewer (if your windosw has a vnc server installed)
[19:09] <robeph> give it a password etc
[19:09] <CroX> tek-ops: I want to disable it and then remove it, not just kill it for now.
[19:09] <robeph> use tightvnc or whatever on yer nix box
[19:09] <unop> ashkore, configure remote desktop on windows -- and use grdesktop
[19:09] <bobbob1016> CroX: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[19:09] <wols_> Seivan|: check launchpad. known problem
[19:09] <ashkore> oh, so i have to install something on the vista machine
[19:09] <ashkore> i cant just do it from ubuntu
[19:10] <coheti> hello all, for some reason i can't get internet  to work.,. i changed the network adapter 2 times, maybe something has misconfigured?
[19:10] <unop> ashkore, not really -- you just enable the terminal service
[19:10] <CroX> bobbob1016: Ahh, Visual effects. Thanks.
[19:10] <robeph> yeah
[19:10] <robeph> lol
[19:10] <robeph> it's a server
[19:10] <Seivan|> wols_: there isnt a problem
[19:10] <robeph> that basically does a couple things
[19:10] <bobbob1016> ashkore: You can use RDP, to the best of my knowledge, but you have to enable it on Vista
[19:10] <coheti> could someone help me please!
[19:10] <dis4ever> can i find most thing in usr/bin
[19:10] <robeph> A) it transmits the visual element (screenshot frames basically)
[19:10] <wols_> Sergo: check launchpad. known problem
[19:10] <mazatapec> I disabled administrator privileges for my only user account, could someone please tell me how to manually change the settings to enable the administrator privileges?
[19:10] <dis4ever> ?
[19:10] <juano__> coheti: wired or wireless ?
[19:10] <robeph> and b) it transmits your moust / kboard / clicks etc
[19:10] <coheti> wired
[19:10] <cox377> does anyone know how to rename the name of an external Hdd?
[19:10] <bobbob1016> ashkore: it will sign the person off on the Vista machine though
[19:10] <coheti> juano__: wired
[19:10] <ashkore> how do i use rdp
[19:10] <juano__> coheti: pc direct to router or direct to ISP ?
[19:10] <unop> cox377, you mean the "label" of a HDD?
[19:11] <dis4ever> what is the best anti-virus and internet security for kubuntu
[19:11] <robeph> ashkore: rdesktop ?
[19:11] <robeph> vnc signs people outta vista?
[19:11] <ashkore> sorry, im new to ubuntu
[19:11] <ashkore> and linuz
[19:11] <ashkore> *linux
[19:11] <bobbob1016> ashkore: That is something to look into, I can't help there.
[19:11] <coheti> juano__: it does not work in either case
[19:11] <cox377> unop: i rekon so, currently set as FREECOME HDD
[19:11] <robeph> I've no clue with rdp
[19:11] <bobbob1016> robeph: No, RDP does
[19:11] <robeph> ah
[19:11] <robeph> neever used iot ;)
[19:11] <robeph> just vnx
[19:11] <robeph> vnc
[19:11] <CroX> Ubuntu wont let me change screen resolution. It's at 1600*1200 but every time I change that and hit apply, I get a dialog asking me if I want to keep this new resolution, but there haven't even been a change!
[19:11] <juano__> coheti: are you connected now to a router or are you directly connected to the ISP's modem or cable ?
[19:12] <unop> cox377, check this forum out - 5 or 6th comment - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322973
[19:12] <coheti> juano__: now i'm on another pc, next to the one internet is not working using the same router/isp
[19:12] <ashkore> CroX
[19:12] <CroX> ashkore: Yes?
[19:12] <coheti> juano__: even same cable
[19:13] <cox377> unop: nice one
[19:13] <juano__> coheti: i need to know if your pc is behind a router
[19:13] <mazatapec> Pardon, could anyone help with a user accounts problem?
[19:13] <juano__> coheti: i.e. pc ------> router -----> ISP
[19:13]  * genii sips a coffee
[19:13] <coheti> juano__: yes
[19:13] <juano__> coheti: ahh ok
[19:13] <juano__> coheti: can you ping your router ?
[19:13] <coheti> juano__: using ditrect connection does not work either
[19:14] <CroX> ashkore: You had a solution for me?
[19:14] <ashkore> yes
[19:14] <unop> mazatapec, whats the problem?
[19:14] <mazatapec> I disabled administrator privileges for my only user account, could someone please tell me how to manually change the settings to enable the administrator privileges?
[19:14] <coheti> juano__: the pc does not have an IP
[19:14] <mazatapec> Sorry that was copy pasted from earlier :X
[19:14] <CroX> So how can I change the screen resolution?
[19:14] <juano__> coheti: its not recieving ip from the dhcp server
[19:15] <coheti> juano__: and i don't know the router ip =( 192.168.0.1 does not respond
[19:15] <h00k> CroX, System -> Preferences ->Screen Resolution
[19:15] <ashkore> CroX: are you using a de such as gnome or kde
[19:15] <juano__> coheti: type in ifconfig
[19:15] <CroX> Gnome.
[19:15] <coheti> juano__: dhcp is 190.16.204.1
[19:15] <genii> Did that guy get help with his ltconfig/automake libconfig ?
[19:15] <h00k> CroX, System -> Preferences ->Screen Resolution should get you there
[19:15] <juano__> coheti: thats dns
[19:15] <CroX> h00k: That wont work, it just gives me a dialog asking me wether or not I want to keep this new resolution. But the resolution isn't changed.
[19:16] <juano__> coheti: probably, your router should be configured with dhcp server
[19:16] <davidrammstein> hello
[19:16] <h00k> CroX, have you tried restarting X?
[19:16] <juano__> coheti: your router must provide you with an IP address dynamically
[19:16] <CroX> h00k: Newp. You think that'd work?
[19:16] <juano__> coheti: do you connect under windows or other OS =
[19:16] <CroX> I'll try that.
[19:16] <cruox> How can I install kde and all the Kubuntu stuff under my ubuntu installation? I don't want them to "harm" each other, however I want to try KDE as well, since I haven't used it since version 3.2. And I suppose it has changed since then..
[19:17] <coheti> juano__: sory? i'm on ubuntu!
[19:17] <juano__> coheti: yes im asking if you have tried to connect with another Operating system to the internet
[19:17] <robeph> so does no one really know...or does nothing exist... I need something to display my current initscripts + runlevels they're in from a single utility (a la gentoo's rc-config show/rc-status
[19:17] <h00k> cruox, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[19:17] <ashkore> that didnt work for me - but theres another way
[19:17] <ashkore> open Terminal Applications->Termianl
[19:17] <ashkore> Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[19:17] <ashkore> then type in "sudo xrandr"
[19:17] <ashkore> following?
[19:17] <ashkore> CroX: are you following the instructions?
[19:17] <davidrammstein> can someone ask me hiw the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:17] <h00k> did that work, CroX ?
[19:17] <CroX> h00k: Lovely, thanks alot!
[19:17] <coheti> juano__: yes, using another pc with ubuntu i have internet... the pc where i'm chatting
[19:18] <h00k> sweet, glad it worked.
[19:18] <Guest_392> is someone able to help me be able to view my files on my vista harddrive in ubuntu
[19:18] <juano__> coheti: eeh ok
[19:18] <davidrammstein> can someone ask me hiw the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:18] <robeph> davidrammstein: in english pleasE?
[19:18] <NetLarIrvine> 7.10 will work on a Celeron right?
[19:18] <robeph> NetLarIrvine: yes
[19:18] <davidrammstein> can someone ask me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:18] <h00k> NetLarIrvine, as long as you get the right architecture cd
[19:19] <juano__> coheti: in the pc that works fine, go to system ------>administration ------>network
[19:19] <robeph> thats not even a valid structured question =\
[19:19] <robeph> davidrammstein:
[19:19] <davidrammstein> can someone ask me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:19] <NetLarIrvine> So it is different for different chip sets?
[19:19] <robeph> that makes no sense to me :-|
[19:19] <dis4ever> i get with synaptec a lot of errors of downloading
[19:19] <h00k> NetLarIrvine, it's different with what processor you are using
[19:19] <Guest_392> anyone able to help figure a way to view files on a ntsf drive in ubuntu
[19:19] <robeph> NetLarIrvine: X86 = will work
[19:19] <h00k> NetLarIrvine: Intel, AMD, PPC
[19:19] <robeph> just leave it at that
[19:20] <h00k> for Celeron, use x86
[19:20] <juano__> coheti: click over the wired connection and select properties, check to see if the same properties are set to the pc that doesn't have internet
[19:20] <test_> can anybody explain bittorrent to me?
[19:20] <NetLarIrvine> ahh , ok thanks robeph
[19:20] <coheti> juano__: dhcp automatic
[19:20] <robeph> test_: yes,  you give a little, and get a little
[19:20] <robeph> that's it in a nutshell
[19:20] <juano__> coheti: ok so your router provides dhcp server
[19:20] <juano__> coheti: check to see if that is enabled on the pc with no internet
[19:20] <davidrammstein> can someone tell me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:20] <Suva> Bleh, the ubuntu 7.10 is extremely unstable for me :S
[19:21] <davidrammstein> why?
[19:21] <davidrammstein> why?
[19:21] <NetLarIrvine> 7.10 is unstable??
[19:21] <Guest_392> please i just want to be able to enjoy linux but cannot without all my media files and etc
[19:21] <davidrammstein> can someone tell me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:21] <tarelerulz> Bleh, What is an unstable about Ubuntu for you ?
[19:21] <davidrammstein> can someone tell me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:21] <coheti> juano__: yes all is th same
[19:21] <davidrammstein> can someone tell me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:21] <ashkore> Guest_392: what filesystem are you using in vista?
[19:21] <ashkore> NTFS? - which is most likely
[19:21] <ashkore> ubuntu can't read or write to NTFS
[19:22] <bobbob1016_> davidrammstein: That sentence isn't a question.  I'd assume you want #ubuntu-de since I know rammstein is a german band.
[19:22] <coheti> juano__: castellano me es mas facil, je
[19:22] <ashkore> I change my resolution with xrandr and when i restart the resolution reverts back to what it was originally
[19:22] <test_> how do you get them started that sort of thing
[19:22] <test_> I have been looking for it under "applications"
[19:22] <test_> I cant find it there
[19:22] <marx2k> Wow... my video card got fried... I did not think that happens these days
[19:22] <juano__> coheti: uuu hubieras avisado, unete a #ubuntu-es
[19:22] <juano__> coheti: heheheh
[19:22] <davidrammstein> can someone tell me how the adress of the irc channel #linux is?
[19:22] <Tailsfan> ##linux
[19:22] <zcat[1]> !ntfs
[19:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[19:22] <robeph> davidrammstein: listen up....I dunno WHAT you're lookin for... cos your question is a failure in grammar.
[19:22] <CroX> h00k: Missed your message. Yeah, that did work.
[19:22] <samgranieri> I've installed ubuntu gutsy on a box and i cant get the mouse to work. which device in /dev should I look for?
[19:23] <h00k> davidrammstein, join #ubundu-de
[19:23] <tarelerulz> ashkore ,Ubuntu does read and write to Ntfs . All you need to install is ntfs-3g
[19:23] <h00k> CroX, cool.  good
[19:23] <CroX> h00k: And now I can switch between resolutions again also.
[19:23] <marx2k> is there a channel for general PC hardware help?
[19:23] <Tailsfan> samgranieri, VMware?
[19:23] <robeph> writing ntfs scares me badly
[19:23] <robeph> :(
[19:23] <h00k> CroX: the same way should work, and then you'd have to restart X again
[19:23] <samgranieri> Tailsfan: i'm not using VMware
[19:23] <zcat[1]> windows scares me!
[19:23] <robeph> hahah
[19:23] <Tailsfan> Yeah
[19:23] <bobbob1016_> h00k: I said that already, either he can't read english well enough to understand that, or he's ignoring us.
[19:23] <Tailsfan> I mean weird
[19:23] <robeph> well I mean i'd not write data on ntfs anywhere near anything I really need
[19:23] <NetLarIrvine> Windows is scarey
[19:23] <samgranieri> Tailsfan: i'm sshing into a full ubuntu box
[19:24] <h00k> bobbob1016, people suck :)
[19:24] <CroX> h00k: No, I mean now it works. I don't have to restart X after having selected a new resolution. :)
[19:24] <h00k> Oooooh, hm, cool
[19:24] <ashkore> tarelerulz: sorry, i knew it didn't read or write out of the box but i didn't know there was a package that will
[19:24] <Tailsfan> Yeah Right Net
[19:24] <Tailsfan> Windows is cool
[19:24] <cox377> what does permission 777 mean?
[19:24] <Tailsfan> I usually like to dual-boot
[19:24] <NetLarIrvine> And scarey
[19:24] <zcat[1]> it CAN read ntfs out of the box...!
[19:24] <test_> where can I find help on how to use bittorrents
[19:24] <CroX> Now I only have one more problem. My sound wont work.
[19:24] <phdami> ... is this Ubuntu channel or a windows channel/
[19:24] <bobbob1016_> davidrammstein: bist du deutsche?
[19:24] <CroX> Music's playing and all, it seems, but I get no sound.
[19:24] <robeph> davidrammstein: Ihr Englisch ist ziemlich gut nicht verstanden, logisch zu sein. Bitte gehen Sie zu #ubuntu-de
[19:25] <zcat[1]> let me know when windows can read ext3 out of the box mmmk?
[19:25] <Tailsfan> Anyway Does the Ubuntu Family have a screen capture software i can install using Synaptic?
[19:25] <balsa> bonsoir
[19:25] <phdami> eh, ext2fs is available
[19:25] <phdami> and useful
[19:25] <h00k> Crox, are you on a laptop?
[19:25] <Nirevus> I've installed my wireless drivers wtih NDISWrapper. Both "ndiswrapper -l" in the terminal, and ndisgtk display that the driver is working and the device is recognised, but it won't pick up any networks. Any help?
[19:25] <zcat[1]> available, yes. Out of the box, NO
[19:25] <marx2k> I have Ubuntu installed on a 160GB external 2.5" HD. I boot from that HD on various computers, but Ubuntu only has about 20 gigs.. the rest is NTFS in case I need a computer to actually use that drive as storage and the computer doesnt run Linux (like at school)
[19:25] <samgranieri> zcat[1]: haha
[19:25] <marx2k> so NTFS has it's place
[19:25] <tarelerulz> ashkore , I am just telling that is all.   We all are in the same boat most the time.  We all don't know something at times.   That is why we all need to ask.  By the way I am glad to help if I know how to.
[19:25] <NetLarIrvine> ubuntu is cool
[19:25] <phdami> zcat[1]: it takes what, 30s to install though?
[19:25] <CroX> h00k: Erm.. Nevermind me. I had plugged the cable into the wrong hole. :( Move along, nothing to see here. :P
[19:25] <david__> ls
[19:25] <robeph> yeh writing ntfs is scary though
[19:25] <david__> oops
[19:26] <robeph> it's still an exercise in daring to do
[19:26] <h00k> CroX, Ha.  It's okay, it happens.  I've done the same...
[19:26]  * Tailsfan has to use ntfs-3g for his USB hard drive
[19:26] <zcat[1]> phdami: only if you're aware that it even exists.. :)
[19:26] <phdami> zcat[1]: heh
[19:26] <alexbobp> I can merge directories by through copying and pasting in a graphical file browser like nautilus or konq.  Is there a way to do this on a command line?
[19:26] <phdami> zcat[1]: 30s in google
[19:26] <samgranieri> alexbobp: use mv ?
[19:26] <marx2k> alexbobp: you mean moving one directory into another?
[19:26] <h00k> alexbobp, man mov
[19:27] <tarelerulz> I use ntfs-3g all the time and it has never failed me.  shutting down windows before it is read is the only thing that has ever given me problems with ntfs-3g
[19:27] <test_> how do I start working with bittorrents
[19:27] <zcat[1]> and if you're at someone's house who doesn't have internet?
[19:27] <marx2k> test: use ktorrent
[19:27] <h00k> or Azureus ;)
[19:27] <marx2k> zcat: Huh?
[19:27] <marx2k> Azureus can be a bitch to set up
[19:27] <Tailsfan> ktorrent is better
[19:27] <marx2k> ktorrent is not better, dont fool yourself
[19:28] <Tailsfan> Yes it is, it's less memory consuming
[19:28] <alexbobp> samgranieri: mv will fail if I try to move a directory into another
[19:28] <marx2k> that doesnt make it better
[19:28] <h00k> alexbobp, do you have permissions?
[19:28] <alexbobp> h00k: I have no mov
[19:28] <marx2k> MS Paint uses less memory than Photoshop.. it's not better :)
[19:28] <pike_> ktorrent is a better alternative than a java app
[19:28] <marx2k> pike: depends on what that java app can dop
[19:28] <zcat[1]> I can boot the ubuntu live cd on a toasted windows machine and recover all their files to a usb drive. had to do it a few times.  this is kinda offtopic tho.
[19:28] <marx2k> do
[19:28] <robeph> use rtorrent CLI  = win
[19:28] <pike_> but both fall short
[19:28]  * samgranieri likes gimp
[19:28] <robeph> its the least overhead of any torrent util
[19:28] <h00k> oh, alexbobp it was a typo,  ment mv
[19:28] <ashkore> tarelerulz: how can I keep my screen resolution. I use xrandr -s 0/1280x1024 and my resolution changes fine. but when i restart the login screen appears at the 1280x1024 resolution but when i login my resolution reverts back to 800x600. how can i permanently change it to 1280x1024?
[19:29] <marx2k> Azureus is ridiculously configurable and plugin-able :)
[19:29] <zcat[1]> the original point was someone complaining that  'linux can't read or write ntfs" which is total bollox
[19:29] <h00k> marx2k, that's what I like about it
[19:29] <tarelerulz> Test,  install the bit torrent  client such as Azureus , ktorrent , rtorrent and even Utorrent if you get wine.  The next part is learning to configing you network with routers and then finding a good site that host torrent files
[19:29] <marx2k> h00k: indeedly
[19:29] <test_> is ktorrent under applications?
[19:29] <marx2k> test: should be under internet applications
[19:29] <Tailsfan> Applications > Inter
[19:29] <phdami> I wouldn't trust linux to r/w ntfs
[19:29] <Tailsfan> Internet*
[19:29] <marx2k> though if youre not running KDE, you might need to install some KDE libraries
[19:29] <arashOio> !torrent | test_
[19:29] <ubotu> test_: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[19:29] <h00k> phdami, it's been around for a while to read/write NTFS.  It's fairly stable.
[19:29] <pike_> the azureus project did alot for torrent clients i guess but i wouldnt run it unless i had loads or ram to spare like a 4 gig system or something
[19:30] <NetLarIrvine> You could use a iMac Cube for ubuntu right?
[19:30] <zcat[1]> phdami: I wound't trust windows to read or write ntfs either..
[19:30] <marx2k> phdami: I've been using Ubuntu to read/write ntfs for 3 semesters now
[19:30] <pike_> NetLarIrvine: yes
[19:30] <tarelerulz> ashkore , I wish I could tell you ,but mos the time I come here to get stuff worked out or search on the net for hours and sometimes days.  I am still  new to it.
[19:30] <Tailsfan> For 6.06
[19:30] <alexbobp> I have a dual-boot configuration with Vista (which I occasionally use for games, and not much else).  I mount my NTFS read-write and use it to store files from Linux all the time, and to transfer data between the system.  I have not had any problems.  Linux NTFS support is stable.
[19:30] <Guest_392> is it pretty easy to make a partition and then move the files that i want both os to view?
[19:30] <robeph> pike_: I still say,  rtorrent (the cli torrent app)  is prolly the best /least overhead,   and fastest running
[19:30] <marx2k> pike: yeah Azureus has a huge footprint, I agree
[19:30] <NetLarIrvine> Is it slower than a PC?
[19:30] <pike_> NetLarIrvine: is than an intel or ppc? comp?
[19:30] <goodhabit_> Hello. How I can get vypress chat on ubuntu? It used @ my homenetwork.
[19:30] <zcat[1]> Put it this way; I've seen windows screw up an ntfs filesystem a lot more often than I've seen linux do it :)
[19:31] <marx2k> but all torrent clients are missing the one thing I depend on with Azureus.  Dynamic ping-based upload speed adjustment
[19:31] <rabidweezle> !pastebin
[19:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[19:31] <Geydi> hola buena tarde
[19:31] <robeph> zcat[1]: how often you writ to a ntfs via linux
[19:31] <NetLarIrvine> like an intel box
[19:31] <cox377> does aanyone know the unmount command ?
[19:31] <robeph> it's really not production ready imho
[19:31] <robeph> at all
[19:31] <DjViper> cox377: umount
[19:31] <Tailsfan> umount
[19:31] <wojtek> http://www.kreskowka.pl/index.php?p=more&id=841
[19:31] <marx2k> cox: 'sudo umount <resource>'
[19:31] <zcat[1]> robeph: every time I resize windows to install ubuntu
[19:31] <marx2k> or 'sudo umount -a'
[19:32] <zcat[1]> anyhow.. gtg bbl ttfn
[19:32]  * Tailsfan is not use to Ubuntu jeOS
[19:32] <marx2k> jeOS?
[19:32] <robeph> jesus os
[19:32] <marx2k> heh
[19:32] <robeph> the christian ubuntu
[19:32] <rabidweezle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47002/
[19:32] <marx2k> Christian Ubuntu..
[19:32] <Tailsfan> JeOS (Just Enough Operating System)
[19:32] <Tailsfan> It was made for VMware
[19:32] <marx2k> Oh I see
[19:33] <alexbobp> robeph: (I know you didn't ask me, but I'm answering anyway) I have several directories symbolic-linked to directories on the NTFS.  Some Windows games I run with wine are saving to and from NTFS, UT2K4 which runs on Windows and Linux is saving on NTFS, and my torrents and dc++ download directories are on the NTFS.  That is a lot of writing, and it all works fine,
[19:33] <rabidweezle> oops
[19:33] <marx2k> I think that's what my professor is forcing people to use for java development, actually
[19:33] <marx2k> I know he's making people use an Ubuntu virtual image
[19:33] <robeph> alexbobp: ah,  I've not done it in ages
[19:33] <kkuserknoppox> mplayer freezes in ubuntu64 after 5 mins...
[19:33] <robeph> last time I tried it was very alpha
[19:33] <robeph> and it nuked some things
[19:33] <robeph> and I just can't concieve it coming a huge step from there in the last year or two
[19:33] <robeph> but it may have ;)
[19:33] <m4stertsunami> hello, i'm trying to add another domain to search through via the network settings, however it keeps getting overwritten; how can i make this permanent?
[19:33] <robeph> i stil wouldn't trust it on a production grade system
[19:33] <m4stertsunami> i believe it is some network-manager related thing
[19:33]  * Tailsfan wonders if his laptop is compatiable with a 64-bit processor
[19:34] <Guest_392> alexbobp do you have a minute to help
[19:34] <alexbobp> robeph: The Linux NTFS drivers were unstable recently, but are stable now.  They were young, and are now mature.
[19:34] <Suva> Hmm
[19:34] <alexbobp> Guest_392: I can try
[19:34] <robeph> ah
[19:34] <alexbobp> I'm not listening to the philosophy instructor anyway ;)
[19:34] <robeph> well,  still,  not production rdy
[19:34] <robeph> =)
[19:34] <alexbobp> I disagree
[19:34] <Suva> The problems arose from -rt kernel
[19:34] <Tailsfan> oops, closed chatzilla's windows
[19:34] <thorN> Hey, does anyone know how I can find out what packages are on a default installation CD?
[19:34] <Suva> With non rt kernel the stuff seems to be more stable
[19:34] <robeph> it's not been stable > yr
[19:34] <robeph> lol
[19:35] <Guest_392> is there just a basic command you enter to be able to read the ntfs in unbuntu
[19:35] <shrug> hello everyone
[19:35] <robeph> Guest_392: just mount it ntfs
[19:35] <alexbobp> robeph: So by that logic, you can't use Vista for another few years
[19:35] <robeph> if ya got the drvs
[19:35] <pike_> thorN: id imagine they are in /var/cache/apt in installcd too but not sure
[19:35] <robeph> alexbobp: and shalln't ;)
[19:35] <CroX> Ugh.. When installing the flash plugin: md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[19:35] <robeph> not in a production grade environ
[19:35] <robeph> desktop usage,  no worries
[19:35] <h00k> CroX, I ran into that last night
[19:35] <ashkore> what is the ubuntu evquivalent to a windows EXE file?
[19:35] <robeph> but not hosting a web site on it
[19:35] <h00k> *yesterday
[19:35] <MTecknology> how do I remove a rule from iptables? I want to remove the 4th one
[19:35] <CroX> h00k: Did you solve it?
[19:35] <robeph> ashkore: a file that has the x flag mode
[19:35] <alexbobp> Guest_392: run disks-admin and you can set up the mount from there.  There should be a checkbox for allowing write support.
[19:35] <robeph> ie chmod a+x <file>
[19:36] <robeph> makes it executable
[19:36] <erUSUL> CroX: known bug. you can try to remove --purge the package and install it again
[19:36] <thorN> thanks pike_, i'll check it out
[19:36] <ashkore> robeph: is there a specific file extension?
[19:36] <robeph> linux doesn't use extensions
[19:36] <Guest_392> do i type that in a command line?
[19:36] <thorN> I'm trying to install ubuntu w/ fluxbox on a really old laptop
[19:36] <robeph> thats a windows but
[19:36] <robeph> bit* really
[19:36] <samgranieri> how would I reconfigure the mouse in linux? the thing wont move on the screen?
[19:36] <h00k> erUSUL, no, you have to do it manually, I did it yesterday
[19:36] <pike_> thorN: it maybe isnt in the cache try sudo locate -u; locate .deb
[19:36] <robeph> samgranieri: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:36] <ashkore> and whats the x flag mode?
[19:36] <robeph> change your input device
[19:36] <kkuserknoppox> nvidia drivers can't enter runlevel 3? is there a way around?
[19:36] <CroX> erUSUL: sudo aptitude remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree?
[19:36] <samgranieri> robeph: i'm in there now
[19:36] <robeph> x flag (x mode)  is executable
[19:36] <Tailsfan> You'll probaly want Fluxbuntu for that then
[19:37] <alexbobp> Guest_392: Are you up to date?  The latest and I think second latest versions of Ubuntu support NTFS read-write out of the box, and much earlier ones support read only
[19:37] <robeph> ie chmod a+x (all owner/group/others)  set to eXecutable
[19:37] <Guest_392> i just downloaded it yesterday
[19:37] <CroX> Still same problem. :(
[19:37] <erUSUL> CroX: see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/125986
[19:37] <ashkore> how do i know if a file's x flag
[19:37] <Guest_392> when i click on it it says unable to mount
[19:37] <robeph> ashkore: check its modes ;)
[19:37] <CroX> erUSUL: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[19:38] <Tailsfan> thorN: http://releases.fluxbuntu.org/7.10/rc/
[19:38] <marx2k> Last night I heard a pop inside my CPU case and my computer shut down. I figured it was the power supply so I bought another one. Still, no good. I tried everything and it turned out that the video card got fried in such a way that the computer doesnt turn on when the video card is in there. that pissed me off big time
[19:38] <Tailsfan> download the i386 one
[19:38] <uebi> hi
[19:38] <samgranieri> robeph: http://pastie.caboo.se/125088
[19:38] <robeph> ashkore: ls -la
[19:38] <thorN> Thanks Tailsfan
[19:38] <ashkore> how do i do that, robeph?
[19:38] <ashkore> (sorry, i haven't really used linux before)
[19:38] <robeph> should list all the flags on the left
[19:38] <Tailsfan> Welcome
[19:39] <erUSUL> marx2k: it will be far worse ahard disk failure imho
[19:39] <samgranieri> whatever the settings are there arent working
[19:39] <shrug> marx2k i would probably powering your pc with the card in there :)
[19:39] <Nirevus> I've installed my wireless drivers wtih NDISWrapper. Both "ndiswrapper -l" in the terminal, and ndisgtk display that the driver is working and the device is recognised, but it won't pick up any networks. Any help?
[19:39] <ashkore> and will the flag be "x"?
[19:39] <ashkore> for an executeable
[19:39] <shrug> avoid*
[19:39] <robeph> (ls = list directory)  -la  show all files -a   and show long form (all information,  date,  modes )
[19:39] <robeph> ls -l works too
[19:39] <phaedra> Nirevus, Did you run the -m switches too?
[19:40] <Nirevus> -m switches?
[19:40] <Nirevus> Isn't that simply to make it run at startup
[19:40] <ashkore> can anyone point me towards a good C++ / C tutorial, or teach me?
[19:40] <marx2k> Well, now Im thinking of just buying a new mobo/CPU with onboard video
[19:40] <phaedra> Nirevus, ndiswrapper -m, -ma -mi
[19:40] <Sephiroth> I'm having a minor problem with my sound card. It used to be detected properly in earlier versions of Ubuntu, but I just recently installed Ubuntu in place of my Fedora installation. (7.10), and I'm not getting any sound from my speakers. There is a sound control panel I can open, but no matter what I do to the volume level, I get no sound. However, sound works perfectly under Windows. According to the sound control panel,
[19:40] <Sephiroth>  my sound card is an Audigy 1 [unknown]
[19:40] <monsterfisk> hello, how can i get my 5.1 soundsystem to work with 7.10?
[19:40] <robeph> the stuff is on the left that will tell ya if its executable (the x's )   each x from left to right means,   rwx--x--x   it's readable by the owner,  writable by the owner,  executable by the owner,   but cannot be read by the group members or written to by group members (or other users for that matter)   but can be executed
[19:41] <punzada> Sephiroth, run the cmd alsamixer in the terminal
[19:41] <robeph> you got diff permission modes
[19:41] <punzada> and make sure nothing is muted
[19:41] <aswp> sup?
[19:41] <T1m0thy> punzada
[19:41] <Nirevus> phaedra: module configuration already contains alias directive
[19:41] <marx2k> Sephiroth: in terminal, go to alsamixer
[19:41] <eyemean> hello, when some1 says install as a root, wat does it mean pls?
[19:41] <punzada> uh oh
[19:41] <aswp> I'll think about it
[19:41] <phaedra> Nirevus, I've also found that it helps to reboot the system after installing the win drivers....  Weird...
[19:41] <T1m0thy> lol
[19:41] <marx2k> eyemean: use the 'sudo' command
[19:41] <FaraBuntnet> hello, how to install graphics driver?
[19:41] <punzada> lol
[19:41] <robeph> ashkore: r,  read,  w write,  x executable...
[19:41] <punzada> jerkface T1m0thy
[19:41] <punzada> :P
[19:41] <phaedra> Nirevus, Yes, it'll tell you that.
[19:41] <T1m0thy> :p
[19:41] <robeph> and three columns relating to who the modes are for,   owner, group, others
[19:41] <marx2k> FaraBuntnet: for what kind of card?
[19:41] <monsterfisk> how can i get my 5.1 soundsystem to work with 7.10?
[19:42] <marx2k> !5.1
[19:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:42] <kazil> just installed zend studio 5.5. i`ve installed jre 1.6 previously. when i start zend, i can`t see anything ,the whole window is gray. anyone got a clue?
[19:42] <jorgp> I have a bootable cdrom that I want to clone, what is the best way to do that?
[19:42] <ashkore> oh - i remember reading something about that
[19:42] <FaraBuntnet> nvidia got the file from there site but it said to run in text mode?
[19:42] <ashkore> permissions and stuff
[19:42] <robeph> yeh
[19:42] <robeph> it's pretty easy to remember though
[19:42] <ashkore> robeph: can you point me towards a good c++ / C tutorial
[19:42] <ashkore> ye
[19:42] <marx2k> monsterfisk: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+and+5.1+sound&btnG=Google+Search
[19:42] <robeph> ashkore: hahah you are talking to the wrong guy here
[19:42] <eyemean> marx2k, u mean put sudo infront of the command?
[19:43] <robeph> now wanna know some stuff about perl...
[19:43] <robeph> I'll point ya all over
[19:43] <marx2k> eyemean: yep
[19:43] <phaedra> Nirevus, have you rebooted the system after installing the drivers?  If not, try rebooting.
[19:43] <robeph> brb smoke brk
[19:43] <ashkore> what do u meen?
[19:43] <robeph> i don't code C
[19:43] <Nirevus> phaedra: Yup, I've tried rebooting
[19:43] <eyemean> marx2k, i get permission denied
[19:43] <boris_> how do i check whether my graphics card is AGP or PCI Express '
[19:43] <marx2k> eyemean: type out what youre typing into terminal
[19:43] <boris_> ?*
[19:43] <ashkore> ok. thanks anyway
[19:43] <marx2k> boris_: you should probably know that :)
[19:43] <eyemean> marx2k, echo "0x7fffffff" >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[19:43] <phaedra> Hmmm...   Which chipset and driver are you using?
[19:44] <marx2k> boris_: type 'lspci' in terminal
[19:44] <kazil> just installed zend studio 5.5. i`ve installed jre 1.6 previously. when i start zend, i can`t see anything ,the whole window is gray. anyone got a clue?
[19:44] <FaraBuntnet> is there a way to run ubuntu in text mode?
[19:44] <marx2k> eyemean: put 'sudo' in front of that command
[19:44] <marx2k> FaraBuntnet: you mean with no X server running?
[19:44] <FaraBuntnet> i think so...
[19:44] <d10b> Can you use grep to eliminate listings?  like with find to remove all the permission denied lines?
[19:44] <TBotNik_1> All, having alsa sound install problem.  See PB at : http://pastebin.ca/805605.  Updating that now, but maching doing "upgrade" so link slow now.
[19:45] <eyemean> marx2k, i get the following: bash: /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax: Permission denied
[19:45] <danbhfive> anyone know about webcam installation?
[19:45] <tek-ops> ok, the answer to my question is /boot/config-version-arch
[19:45] <ashkore> where is the htdocs part of apache found on ubuntu
[19:45] <tek-ops> in case anyone wants to know anymore
[19:45] <stefano__> i have mounted a partition and it is displayed as "6.5 GB Disk: secdrv" (ins mounted as /media/secdrv) how can i change the disk label? nautilus says "could not rename..."?
[19:45] <marx2k> FaraBuntnet: you'd need to boot into a different runlevel, but if you just want to work in a terminal, just do ALT+CTRL+F1 to F6
[19:45] <ashkore> on a default installation
[19:45] <kazil> ashkore: /etc/apache2/
[19:45] <boris_> marx2k : well i dont see whether i got PCI or AGP
[19:45] <mazatapec> Pardon, could someone please help with this situation?: I disabled administrator privileges for my only user account, could someone please tell me how to manually change the settings to enable the administrator privileges?
[19:45] <ashkore> thanks kazil
[19:45] <marx2k> eyemean: thats weird since sudo gives you root privledges
[19:45] <boris_> marx2k:if i enter this command
[19:46] <Nirevus> phaedra: Any ideas?
[19:46] <kazil> ashkore: u anything `bout zend studio?
[19:46] <marx2k> boris: the first line in 'lspci' gives me 00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev c1)
[19:46] <danbhfive> I followed what seems to be the standard webcam install directions, but none worked, is there anything else that I can do?  Can I try the drivers at random?
[19:46] <marx2k> so that tells me AGP :)
[19:46] <ashkore> no sorry
[19:46] <FaraBuntnet> I reead that the runlevels in ubuntu are all X servers...?  like 2,3,4
[19:46] <eyemean> marx2k, i did install super terminal and found it didnt make a difference so uninstalled it, could that be a problem, maybe i should reboot?
[19:46] <kazil> ashkore: by default the localhost is pointed to /var/www/
[19:46] <Serj_Okkonen> HELLO
[19:47] <ashkore> ok thanks
[19:47] <Sinterklaas> 't heerlijk avondje is gekomen
[19:47] <phaedra> Nirevus, If ndiswrapper reports the card is present and the driver is being used, I'm not too sure.  You seem to have done everything right.
[19:47] <boris_> marx2k : my second line : 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P PCI to AGP Controller (rev 02)
[19:47] <Sephiroth> punzada, Took me a few minutes to figure that command out, but I got it. Thanks. :D
[19:47] <marx2k> eyemean: nah I doubt thats the problem..
[19:47] <marx2k> boris: so Im guessing AGP :)
[19:47] <Nirevus> phaedra: I'll make a post on the ubuntu forums.
[19:47] <kazil> anyone knows whys zend studio all gray when i start it?
[19:47] <marx2k> FaraBuntnet: nope... there are text only runlevels (Ubuntu Server, for instance, does not have X server installed by default)
[19:48] <eyemean> marx2k, i've been going nuts trying to install cinelerra so found a walk through that might help now i cant even get past 1st step, lol
[19:48] <boris_> marx2k : any more certain way to find out ?
[19:48] <marx2k> eyemean: tell me the command youre trying to do again?
[19:48] <marx2k> boris: I think there's an option to view your hardware under the pulldown menus, but Im in KDE so I have different pulldown menus :)
[19:48] <eyemean> marx2k, sudo echo "0x7fffffff" >/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[19:48] <robeph> ashkore: you interested in learning C or something?
[19:48] <FaraBuntnet> i tried runlevel 3 but it boots to my desktop?
[19:49] <ashkore> yes
[19:49] <phaedra> Nirevus, Try ths - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[19:49] <marx2k> boris: you can also try 'dmesg | grep  agp'
[19:49] <boris_> marx2k : you probably mean Hardware Information
[19:49] <robeph> there's tons out there about it o nthe web
[19:49] <marx2k> yeah I imagine so
[19:49] <robeph> google is your best bet for a start
[19:49] <ashkore> thanks alot
[19:49] <robeph> perl is a nice language though that is more in tune with administration since it lends itself to scripting not just compileware
[19:49] <robeph> that and bash
[19:49] <eyemean> marx2k, http://lab.dyne.org/cinelerra/Gutsy incase that helps, sorry about this
[19:49] <robeph> learn bash if yer gonna use nix
[19:49] <robeph> ;)
[19:50] <ashkore> robeph, how do i check whether i have apache on my machine, i installed LAMP at installation but i cant find apache anywhere
[19:50] <marx2k> eyemean: on my system it's.. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-12-05 13:49 /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[19:50] <marx2k> so it looks like its owned by root..
[19:50] <kazil> ashkore: which apache2
[19:50] <marx2k> Hmmmmmmm
[19:50] <kazil> or which apache
[19:50] <robeph> ashkore: in ubuntu?  no idea... lol I dunjno the package mngr at all sorry :(
[19:50] <h00k> root, that bastard. he's always stopping me! ;)
[19:50] <robeph> I'm a gentoo native
[19:50] <robeph> I'm just here for kicks.
[19:50] <robeph> and cos I needed some help,
[19:50] <boris_> marx2k : when i select my graphics Card, it says 'Bus Type : PCI
[19:50] <robeph> linux basics are the same across the board though
[19:50] <bullgard4> [Gutsy, Gnome] Panel menu System > Quit opens a dialog having 8 buttons. Where is the information, what programs are executed if I press a button of them?
[19:50] <robeph> so I end up trying to help when folks ask stuff =p
[19:50] <marx2k> boris: Then I guess thats your answer :)
[19:50] <kc5goi> I need to upgrade postfix and postgrey on 6.06.  Is it just as simple as adding dappers repositories then running apt-get and upgrading them?
[19:50] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[19:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:51] <ashkore> whats bash?
[19:51] <ashkore> is that the terminal? or related to it
[19:51] <boris_> marx2k : well, i dont think that is correct
[19:51] <robeph> bash is your shell
[19:51] <robeph> but it's also a scripting language
[19:51] <robeph> man bash
[19:51] <marx2k> boris: You could just open your case... :)
[19:51] <stefano__> boris_, i didnt read your original question but i think ubuntu treats every graphics card as pci, i could be wrong though
[19:51] <kazil> ashkor: u installed lamp through packages or through tasksel?
[19:51] <boris_> stefano__ : i think you're right
[19:51] <ashkore> and what is a shell?
[19:51] <robeph> shell is,  well your shell,  like "dos" is a shell
[19:51] <ashkore> kazil: when i instlaled ubuntu server
[19:51] <kc5goi> robeph: no man bashing.  :)
[19:51] <marx2k> eyemean: what does that command accomplish, btw? I mean.. why do you need to put that in there?
[19:51] <ashkore> i selected lamp
[19:51] <robeph> !shell
[19:51] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:52] <robeph> your terminal
[19:52] <robeph> thats what I was lookin for
[19:52] <eyemean> marx2k, does it make a difference if you have a amd or intel maybe?
[19:52] <ashkore> oh, so the shell is a console
[19:52] <marx2k> eyemean: Hm I dont think so... Im thinking maybe you have an onboard card or something?
[19:52] <kazil> ashkore: oh... well... uhmm.... try which apache2 or which apache or locate apache2 or smthing like that
[19:52] <TBotNik_1> All, Repeating: Having alsa sound install problem.  See PB at : http://pastebin.ca/805605.  Updating that now, but maching doing "upgrade" so link slow now.
[19:52] <robeph> but it lends itself to scripting.... ie  a text file,  set to executable,  that begins with #!/bin/bash (#! tells the system that the interpreter to use for the script following,  is the next thing it'll see)
[19:53] <eyemean> marx2k, i have no idea, im new to linux and following a walk through
[19:53] <Panda> Hi, anyone here able to help me out regarding a broken package?
[19:53] <robeph> can be created to do things ,  thus automate,  scripting wetc
[19:53] <marx2k> eyemean: Im just trying to figure out what that file IS.. like what process writes to that file
[19:53] <kazil> !zend
[19:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:53] <kazil> !jre
[19:53] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[19:53] <TBotNik_1> All, since I have no sound, I don't get the bing if you respond so have to monitor this closely.
[19:53] <ashkore> i must have uninstalled apaceh
[19:53] <marx2k> eyemean: you might want to try deleting the file first and THEN running that command
[19:54] <eu> salut
[19:54] <ashkore> i just did sudo apt-get install apache2 and its installing now
[19:54] <kazil> ashkore, u can`t find it?
[19:54] <eyemean> marx2k, site says: Linux usually has an issue with memory allocation, whereby you get a weird warning about shmmax , so that comman is a work around
[19:54] <marx2k> oh I see
[19:54] <sebastorama> anyone know how startup on X works?? .xsession? .xinitrc?
[19:54] <marx2k> yeah maybe try deleting the file first
[19:54]  * thorN sticks "designed for windows 95" sticker on 6GHz ubuntu box >=]
[19:54] <marx2k> sebastorama: in terms of what?
[19:55] <Suva> Hey, what's so much different between the RT and non RT kernel
[19:55] <kazil> ashkore: this is a good tut for installing lamp http://services.tucows.com/developers/2007/10/24/installing-apache-2-php-5-and-mysql-5-on-ubuntu-710-aka-gutsy-gibbon/
[19:55] <sebastorama> marx2k, I want to set some programs to initiate with X... I use Ion3, so I don't have any manager to do that for me.. So want to know how..
[19:55] <Suva> That RT kernel just drops my soundcard
[19:55] <eyemean> marx2k, sorry but how do i do that pls?
[19:55] <ashkore> i got apaceh2 now
[19:55] <marx2k> sebastorama: Oh... I see..
[19:55] <Suva> Completely ignores it, modprobeing driver module doesn't do anything
[19:56] <kazil> ashkore, and other? php and mysql?
[19:56] <ashkore> i take it that the windows "htdocs" is now /var/www
[19:56] <Suva> Not even a slightest error gets into dmesg
[19:56] <Parsi> can i install kde for ubuntu?
[19:56] <marx2k> sebastorama: yeah usually gnome has the application that allows you to set that up
[19:56] <marx2k> eyemean: 'sudo rm <filename>'
[19:56] <kazil> ashkore, try localhost
[19:56] <kazil> should be /var/www
[19:56] <ashkore> ye, i get the listing for the /var/www
[19:57] <kazil> ql :)
[19:57] <kazil> u php dev?
[19:57] <eyemean> marx2k, so 'sudo rm /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax' ?
[19:57] <ashkore> i think i have php and mysql
[19:57] <ashkore> which php returns /usr/bin/php
[19:57] <MikeH> anyone here use amsn that can tell me how to show online contacts only?
[19:57] <pike_> Parsi: yes. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for the whole ubuntu kde package or you can install the kde packages manually
[19:57] <marx2k> eyemean:  right
[19:58] <MikeH> nevermind
[19:58] <marx2k> sebastorama: damn thats actually a good question
[19:58] <ashkore> and which mysql returns /usr/bin/mysql
[19:58] <eyemean> marx2k, should i make bakcup of file first?
[19:58] <marx2k> eyemean: I would, yes
[19:58] <marx2k> 'sudo cp <filename> <filaneme2>
[19:58] <ashkore> kazil: i have an problem with mysql
[19:58] <kazil> try a phpinfo(); on local
[19:58] <kazil> what?
[19:58] <ashkore> when i type in mysql into the shell i get
[19:58] <ashkore> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:59] <CroX> My volume applet is very weird. Every other inch it moves when I change volume, it turns into the muted icon.
[19:59] <sebastorama> marx2k, ahh.. and I use gdm as my login manager... so I think it's gdm setup ..
[19:59] <pike_> sebastorama: i usually use xinit command to launch x and i can put various things in my ~/.xinitrc file dunno if thats what you want
[19:59] <pike_> sebastorama: or put em in /etc/init.d/gdm script
[19:59] <marx2k> sebastorama: well if youre in gnome, there is an app under System Settings (somewhere, im in KDE) where you can set that up... it's called sessions
[19:59] <kazil> try phpinfo on localhost, it`ll write out what u have
[20:00] <sebastorama> marx2k, yeap.. but I'm not using gnome ... that's why I want to know how it works =P to do things manually =P
[20:00] <marx2k> sebastorama: now I want to know too
[20:01] <dotz> Guys, does ubuntu have any nice CD catalog programs?
[20:01] <ashkore> i don't think apache2 is configured with php, how to i configure it?
[20:02] <freepenguin> which program must i use to view PDB files?
[20:02] <dotz> ashkore: Just install it.
[20:02] <kazil> sudo apt-get install php5
[20:02] <dotz> freepenguin: PDB files are PalmOS databases.
[20:02] <Parsi> pike_: is kde included in ubuntu dvd?
[20:02] <ashkore> does it require any additional config with apache?
[20:02] <dotz> freepenguin: If you have books in PDB format, they're Isilo books perhaps. Google for isilo linux.
[20:02] <dotz> ashkore: No.
[20:02] <kazil> ashkore, just restart apache after it
[20:02] <ashkore> Parsi: are you having problems installing kde?
[20:03] <ashkore> ok
[20:03] <Parsi> yes
[20:03] <ashkore> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:03] <Parsi> i wanna install it from dvd
[20:03] <Parsi> there is some files
[20:03] <Parsi> kdebase
[20:03] <Ozoned> This is freaking me out :-( Simple http post , works on WinDoze, but returns "bad request" in kubuntu, Used several browsers, same story.
[20:03] <Parsi> kdelibs
[20:03] <Parsi> and..
[20:04] <ashkore> try "sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <Parsi> but after installing and restarting there was no option to select kde!
[20:04] <finek90> how can i add subtitles in totem?
[20:04] <kazil> ashkore, oh and don`t forget to chown /var/www to your user
[20:04] <marx2k> Parsi: It wasnt in Session Options in your login screen?
[20:04] <ashkore> kazil, i just use sudo nano and then write a file
[20:04] <juano__> Parsi:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:05] <Parsi> i wanna offline installation
[20:05] <ashkore> if its on the cd it should do it
[20:05] <unop> . o 0 ( buy the KDE DVDs then?  )
[20:05] <dotz> Guys, is there any good CD catalog software for Linux ?
[20:06] <dotz> Parsi: Get CD from kubuntu project.
[20:06] <n8k99> msg NickServ IDENTIFY <sassafrass>
[20:06] <marx2k> uh oh
[20:06] <dotz> Booooooooooya!
[20:06] <AgentHeX> cox377: should be. you can type "mount" on the command line to display all mount points.
[20:06] <eyemean> marx2k, cp: cannot create regular file `/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax2': No such file or directory
[20:06] <dotz> n8k99: That was cool.
[20:06] <n8k99> sh!!!!
[20:06] <Parsi> if i get kubuntu can i add it to ubunto repos?
[20:06] <n8k99> well that sux
[20:07] <marx2k> eyemean: wtf thats weird hang on
[20:07] <genii> n8k99: Change it quick
[20:07] <dotz> n8k99: Make your irc client send that automagically.
[20:07] <IpMooIng> moo
[20:07] <n8k99> dotz trying out new IRC Clients
[20:07] <dotz> n8k99: when you connect.
[20:07] <dotz> right.
[20:07] <unop> parsi .. ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and others all use the same repos
[20:07] <AgentHeX> cox377: forget what i said...  i was wondering why the chat room was stuck at 10:51AM
[20:07] <dotz> n8k99: Are you completly sure you don't have to change your shell password now? :)
[20:07] <n8k99> i have never been able to get an irc clinet to send that automagically
[20:07] <kazil> anyone knows whys zend all gray when i start it?
[20:07] <marx2k> eyemean: whoa that happens on my system too... thats weird
[20:07] <dotz> n8k99: Well, try irssi then.
[20:07] <Parsi> unop: i meant add kubuntu cd to ubuntu repo
[20:07] <unop> parsi .. it's so you can install and use both GNOME and KDE at the same time
[20:08] <unop> parsi, yes
[20:08] <Parsi> good
[20:08] <eyemean> marx2k, hahaha, jack all is going smooth here is it
[20:08] <marx2k> eyemean: yeah Ive never seen anyting like that
[20:08] <marx2k> look through: http://www.google.com/search?complete=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=cp%3A+cannot+create+regular+file&btnG=Search
[20:08]  * genii has xfce kde and gnome all installed
[20:08] <marx2k> genii: what do you think of xfce?
[20:09] <kazil> anyone knows whys zend all gray when i start it?
[20:09] <genii> The only thing is the desktop menus get cluttered....
[20:09] <marx2k> I personally only use KDE on all my boxes
[20:09] <genii> marx2k: It's faster but more minimalistic
[20:09] <unop> xfce is the GNOME hater, KDE wannabe??
[20:09] <marx2k> heh
[20:09] <marx2k> is xfce what Damn Small Linux runs?
[20:09] <genii> marx2k: I generally login to KDE
[20:10] <bobgill> how can I move all the files in a bunch of subfolders up to the parent folder? ie., wallpapers/folder1, folder2 etc... move all the files in those up to /wallpapers
[20:10] <unop> I generally login to bash
[20:10] <wpk> bobgill: mv */* .
[20:10] <wpk> when in the parent folder
[20:10] <Gejsajano> all: guis how i find my version of compize fusion????????????
[20:11] <kazil> anyone knows whys zend all gray when i start it? i`m getting desperate...
[20:11] <genii> unop: On servers i generally use bash, no gui of any type. But on workstations KDE is convenient most times
[20:11] <Howbag> Gejsajano: I guess you find it smooth
[20:11] <marx2k> Gejsajano: aptitude show compiz
[20:11] <turbocueca> on gnome, How can I add a new entry to the new file menu?
[20:11] <eyemean> marx2k, cheers having a look now
[20:11] <turbocueca> To quickly create a new document, for example
[20:12] <Gejsajano> marx2k: thx man
[20:12] <eltux> how would I go about moving a folder to a restricted directory with the terminal?
[20:13] <unop> eltux ..,. what does restricted mean exactly?
[20:13] <eltux> unop: the owner of the folder is root so I can't just drag and drop
[20:13] <AgentHeX> eltux: sudo mv /path/to/src /path/to/dest ?
[20:13] <eltux> AgentHeX: thanks
[20:14] <romantik> void^, are you here? please respond
[20:14] <danbhfive> anyone know about installing webcams?  If there is no linux support, is there a way that I can use wine?
[20:14] <steveire> Can the ls command be made return only directories?
[20:14] <marx2k> danbhfive: you have a good chance of it if the drivers on that webcam dont require the .NET framework
[20:14] <steveire> ls -d doesn't work
[20:14] <unop> find . type -d
[20:14] <rtb|laptop> problem: every so often (like right now!) my computer is paralyzed. I have the little activity monitor up on the menu bar, and during this it shows 100% CPU being allocated to IOWait
[20:14] <rtb|laptop> what causes this and how can I solve it?\
[20:15] <rtb|laptop> By the way, I have a wired connection
[20:15] <steveire> unop: That's recursive, which i don't want
[20:15] <shrug> danbhfive: i think it should just detect it and any software- for example aMSN should be ready to use it
[20:15] <danbhfive> marx2k how would I do it?  Just try to run the driver install from wine?  and then maybe a windows webcam app?
[20:15] <marx2k> danbhfive: yes
[20:15] <rtb|laptop> I can hear the disk swapping when this happens.
[20:15] <ashkore> i have a php file with phpinfo(); in it and saved in /var/www when i try to open it in firefox it treats it as a download
[20:16] <erUSUL> !lamp | ashkore
[20:16] <ubotu> ashkore: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[20:16] <unop> steveire, maybe - find . -depth -type d
[20:16] <shrug> danbhfive, are you using for video messaging or for recording purposes?
[20:16] <unop> or find . -depth 1 -type d
[20:16] <Sergo> hello
[20:16] <Sergo> it is possible to change the name of username?
[20:16] <ashkore> i have installed apache and php
[20:16] <kazil> ashkore: did u changed /var/www/ to you?
[20:16] <danbhfive> shrug: i think video messaging, so it doesn't have to work perfectly
[20:17] <ashkore> no, what permission number do i use?
[20:17] <shrug> danbhfive, try aMSN
[20:17] <kazil> just sudo chown username /var/www
[20:17] <shrug> if your on msn messenger
[20:17] <kazil> replace username
[20:17] <danbhfive> wait, thats for linux though
[20:17] <danbhfive> I first need to get the webcam working
[20:17] <Sergo> is the lenocks good username?
[20:17] <MTecknology> green tea with pomegranate :)
[20:18] <marx2k> danbhfive: are you sure there's no drivers for your webcam under linux?
[20:18] <steveire> unop: Doesn't seem to have anyu effect
[20:18] <ashkore> kazil: i still get asked to download the file
[20:18] <Sergo> is the "lenocks" good username?
[20:18] <kazil> Sergo: yep :D
[20:18] <shrug> danbhfive, how do you know it doesnt work?
[20:18] <Sergo> )
[20:18] <danbhfive> shrug marx2k Ill never be sure, I tried easycam, and it didn't work,  ubuntuforums has an unanswered request for help, and I don't know how to try out the drivers
[20:19] <kazil> ashkore: to say the truth, yesterday i had the same thing... it drove me crazy... until i reinstalled ubuntu and started all over
[20:19] <kazil> now its ok
[20:19] <danbhfive> I tried running camara
[20:19] <kazil> it something about the rights
[20:19] <danbhfive> *camorama
[20:19] <shrug> danbhfive, oh.. so you tried using easycam. and it did not detect your camera?
[20:19] <danbhfive> shrug, i dont think it did, it didn't really say
[20:20] <danbhfive> shurg, but camorama still failed to work
[20:20] <kazil> did u restarted apache?
[20:20] <kazil> sudo apache2ctl -k restart
[20:21] <steveire> unop: find -maxdepth 1 -type d. Cheers.
[20:21] <Dutzzu> hey there :)
[20:21] <shrug> danbhfive.... install aMSN... its a clone of msn messenger, see if it detects your camera fisrt
[20:21] <LimCore> how to build and use customer kernel? I need some new options
[20:21] <unop> steveire, i think depth 1 also does it .. or was it depth 0?? cant remember
[20:22] <shrug> danbhfive, it will tell your if it is found and should work if it find it
[20:22] <Dutzzu> i need help instaling a webcam,... can some1 help me ?
[20:22] <danbhfive> hey Dutzzu Im in the same boat
[20:22] <Tailsfan> Hello
[20:22] <Spirotot> Hey. It's me again... So I finally got my speakers to work on my laptop with the ALSA drivers (?). But, when I plug headphones in, the external speakers don't turn off - I'm getting sound through both the headphones and speakers...
[20:22] <pike_> !webcam | Dutzzu
[20:22] <ubotu> Dutzzu: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:23] <Dutzzu> danbhfive,  :)) is a bad day 2day :)
[20:23] <ashkore> i dont want to install all over again. it took me 3 days to do all the configurations
[20:23] <ashkore> surely theres a way
[20:23] <ashkore> without reinstallation
[20:23] <ashkore> to be honest, i am starting to hate ubuntu and prefer windows, i don't see any advantages of open source, other than that its free
[20:23] <Tailsfan> I was trying to load an Ubuntu Lve-CD and it's saying that my battery is at 49% and says to may be old or dying,what does this mean>
[20:23] <Dutzzu> pike_,  thank you :)
[20:23] <kazil> ashkore try xampp...
[20:23] <danbhfive> shurg: what do I do in aMSN?
[20:23] <Parsi> what it means: http://pastebin.com/d4fc3518a
[20:23] <Tailsfan> Is this a fake message or what?
[20:23] <Tailsfan> Please, I'm really worried
[20:24] <pike_> Dutzzu: if its new id recommend checking supported hardware. if it looks like itll be any trouble at all id take it back for a better supported chipset
[20:24] <Dutzzu> pike_, i tryed with camorama, but i god an error msg :(
[20:24] <steveire> unop: Nope. -depth is either there or not. Doesn't take an arg
[20:24] <kazil> or... i don`t does server edition has this... go system->administration->synaptic package manager
[20:24] <ashkore> i was a complete thick twat and didn't restart apache, i presumed it had already been done
[20:25] <Dutzzu> pike_,  the msg is: could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) Please check connection
[20:25] <Tailsfan> :(\
[20:25] <Dutzzu> no... it's not old :)
[20:25] <kazil> ashkore, if u wanna dev php apps and web u better do it on a nix os
[20:25] <Dutzzu> not new, sry :)
[20:25] <robeph> anyone know real quick,  obviously no one is in openoffice,  like four people,  but perhaps someone here knows,   when using the --- to make horiz break lines,   how do you get it to stop making them when ya hit return when you're done with them ... =\
[20:25] <Dutzzu> pike, if i type lsusb i get this: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 093a:0007 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[20:25] <aladdinsane> can anyone give me a tip of a scientific _graphing_ calculator for ubuntu
[20:25] <ashkore> nix os?
[20:25] <Spirotot> So I finally got my speakers to work on my laptop with the ALSA drivers (?). But, when I plug headphones in, the external speakers don't turn off - I'm getting sound through both the headphones and speakers...
[20:26] <kazil> unix style os
[20:26] <Tailsfan> and my laptop is plugged in
[20:26] <robeph> Spirotot: hehehe,   you need to go into your mixer
[20:26] <ashkore> are they free?
[20:26] <robeph> and cut the ext speaker down
[20:26] <unop> aladdinsane, xgraph ?
[20:26] <kazil> yep
[20:26] <robeph> you have seperate volume controls in the mixer for headphone / external
[20:26] <Slart> aladdinsane: there's wxmaxima.. that's the only one that does both the calculating and graphing I thinl
[20:26] <ashkore> whats the best one?
[20:26] <unop> aladdinsane, aptitude search graph
[20:26] <ramon> is there a way to import a csv-file to evolution calendar? the import function just import my schoolschedule to contacts, which is a bit weird...
[20:26] <Spirotot> Ah...
[20:26] <Spirotot> Ok...
[20:26] <kazil> ashkore, go to system->administration->synaptic package manager
[20:26] <Dutzzu> pike_,  can i write to you in private ? :) *pls*
[20:26] <robeph> I think it's dmix maybe
[20:26] <robeph> I dunno whayt yuou use tho
[20:26] <Arelis> Guys, i screwed up my gnome menu by dragging stuff.. how do i restore it?
[20:26] <aladdinsane> thnx, i'll check them out
[20:27] <NET||abuse> My god, i'm trying to connect to a wifi point here in an office, the web CP says it's WPA-PSK, under network-manager i find the network, connect to it, and it asks for WPA-Personal key, so i put in what's listed in the web CP,,, but it will not connect, the 2 little green pips, well the first one lights up, then nothing
[20:27] <ashkore> yes
[20:27] <kazil> ashkor then edit-> mark packages by task
[20:27] <Spirotot> robeph: I use alsamixer. :S
[20:27] <danbhfive> Dutzzu please dont do it in private, I would like to hear
[20:27] <kazil> tick lamp server
[20:27] <kazil> should do the trick
[20:27] <robeph> that works
[20:27] <Arelis> Guys, i screwed up my gnome menu by dragging stuff.. how do i restore it?
[20:27] <knex> hu
[20:27] <kazil> wait? u restarted apache riiiight?
[20:27] <knex> anyone there
[20:27] <ashkore> yep
[20:27] <ashkore> and it worked
[20:27] <robeph> you should see the right things in there
[20:27] <LjL> Arelis: drag it back?
[20:27] <Dutzzu> danbhfive,  wee can t understand here... tha traffic it's infernal )))
[20:27] <robeph> just hit "m" over the external devices
[20:27] <aladdinsane> unop: yes there are many graphing calculators, thnx for the tip. the question were about one that have the other scientific stuff as well
[20:27] <robeph> and it'll mut'm
[20:27] <kazil> so it executes the php?
[20:27] <NET||abuse> This second little pip won't turn green,, it just sits there then times out,, how can I fix this?
[20:28] <robeph> I think you can save presets
[20:28] <ashkore> yes
[20:28] <Arelis> LjL: No by dragging it got deleted
[20:28] <kazil> :)
[20:28] <robeph> so like you stick yer hphone in and just hit like ctrl-2 and load it
[20:28] <robeph> I forget the exact manner of doing os though
[20:28] <kazil> what does it say? the phpinfo?
[20:28] <LjL> !panelreset > Arelis    (Arelis, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:28] <krim> How can I split a file into smaller pieces? When I right click on a file and choose create archive I don't see anything about it
[20:28] <Spirotot> Ok... I'm trying it now...
[20:29] <LjL> krim: man split
[20:29] <knex> anyone there with knowledge of avant? please pm.. i ve got a big problem
[20:29] <krim> LjL: Thanks
[20:30] <subpar_> I'm having problems with ubuntu changing the preferences for the wrong mouse on my laptop. Detailed explanation here ----> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3839154
[20:30] <danbhfive> Dutzzu: can you make a separate chat that I could join too?
[20:30] <krim> LjL: Hm, by the way, will it be possible to put it back to one piece for someone using Windows?
[20:30] <Dutzzu> danbhfive,  it won't be hard to do that... but we need there pike_ .... and pike_  don't answer :)
[20:31] <LjL> krim, split simply splits the file, it doesn't use any special format or anything... so all that's needed is some program that will glue it all together again (on linux, it's obviously just "cat")
[20:31] <knex> if got a problem avant-window-navigator-bzr:
[20:31] <knex>  Hängt ab: »libawn-bzr«, aber es wird nicht installiert.
[20:31] <knex>   Hängt ab: »libpango1.0-0 (>=1.18.3)«, aber es wird »1.18.2-0ubuntu1« installiert.
[20:31] <knex>  Hängt ab: »libawn-bzr«, aber es wird nicht installiert.
[20:31] <Slart> krim: probably not.. try to make some kind of rar-archive.. I don't know if zip supports multi-file archives...
[20:31] <ashkore> kazil, well, i can't see mysql
[20:31] <knex> how do i solf this
[20:31] <ashkore> what is the mysql package called?
[20:31] <kazil> ashkore, than u`ll have to install it
[20:31] <Nirevus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[20:31] <ashkore> apt-get install mysql doesn't work
[20:32] <kazil> just a sec
[20:32] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[20:32] <kazil> sudo apt-get mysql-server
[20:32] <Slart> ashkore: there are packages for server, client, administration etc..
[20:32] <Slart> ashkore: apt-cache search mysql to see them all
[20:32] <amadeux> I have a problem with deluge. I have been downloading appx 10 torrents lately. Then suddenly my disk was full, and I decided to close deluge and remove some files (not related to deluge) to make room. Then I rebooted. When the system came back up, and I started deluge, it showed no torrents in the list. In ~/.config/deluge/torrentfiles, it seems that there is a lot of torrent files. So why?
[20:32] <ashkore> oh, right
[20:32] <kazil> u need the -server
[20:32] <ashkore> i think ive only got the client
[20:32] <amadeux> and more importantly: how do I get deluge to list the files again and continue downloading?
[20:32] <ashkore> kazil, do you know anything about samba?
[20:32] <kazil> lil bit
[20:33] <kazil> after u install mysql-server run this
[20:33] <genii> krim: windows rejoining. Copy the file pieces into a dir by themselves all with same extensions. like part1.ext part2.ext    etcetera. then in same dir, do: copy *.ext rejoinedfilename.newextensionhere
[20:33] <Parsi> how to unmount volume from terminal?
[20:33] <kazil> sudo apt-get install php5-mysql
[20:33] <kazil> it`s to connect php and mysql
[20:33] <Dutzzu> so, nomebody else can help me install a webcam ?!?
[20:33] <Slart> Parsi: umount /path/to/mount/point
[20:33] <ashkore> ok
[20:33] <kazil> ashkore, i`m using samba to connect to my win comp
[20:34] <kazil> and if u need phpmyadmin
[20:34] <Slart> Parsi: might have to throw in a "sudo" at the beginning there.. depends on what you're unmounting
[20:34] <chester_martins> WHAT IS the name of package that allow ubuntu mount usb devices??
[20:34] <kazil> just run apt-get install phpmyadmin
[20:34] <ashkore> kazil: before we talk about samba - i need help - i get this message while trying to install mysql-server
[20:34] <ashkore> andrew@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[20:34] <ashkore> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:34] <ashkore> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:34] <Slart> chester_martins: isn't that in udev?
[20:34] <kazil> and don`t forget to restart apache
[20:34] <Flare183> !paste | ashkore
[20:34] <ubotu> ashkore: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[20:34] <chester_martins> i install just the comand line system
[20:34] <Slart> ashkore: shut down synaptic first.. can't only have one instance doing installing etc at a time
[20:34] <genii> ashkore: Close any other apps using a package manager or updating
[20:35] <chester_martins> now i couldnt mount usb devices
[20:35] <kazil> ashkore: it`s because something is open... synaptic, shut it down :)
[20:35] <Slart> chester_martins: any error messages?
[20:35] <orochi_> Hello :> In a number of apps that are graphics "intensive" (e.g. bzflag, Java 6 when displaying 2d or 3d animated graphics, etc.), the sound stutters on my system...my chip is an AD1988 onboard. Anyone know if there's a setting I could alter to fix it? :/
[20:35] <Slart> chester_martins: checked the syslog? output from lsusb? is the device recognized by the usb subsystem?
[20:36] <Dutzzu> so, nomebody else can help me install a webcam ?!?
[20:36] <chester_martins> no Slart
[20:37] <Lunks> I had an ubuntu install which broke; Now I'm gonna remove windows and use the whole partition to ubuntu. my old windows is now mounted as /. I'd like to have my old ubuntu partition to become /home, but first I'm backing it up. After I remove everything from it and mount it as /home, will there be any catch on making everything the normal way? Is there an easier way? Thanks for any information.
[20:37] <Slart> chester_martins: hmm.. ok.. can you see the usb drive using lsusb? do it once without the drive connected and then again after plugging it in.. there should be an extra line after
[20:37] <Spirotot> robeph: I'm still having problems...
[20:38] <Spirotot> No matter what I try in alsamixer, the headphones/speakers always stay together. Is there a different mixer/program I need to use?
[20:38] <Dutzzu> Slart, can you help me too ?
[20:39] <subpar_> I'm having problems with my mice on my laptop. There's two built in, and I want to turn one off, how would I go about doing that?
[20:39] <Slart> Dutzzu: not sure... depends entirely on what kind of webcam it is
[20:40] <Slart> Dutzzu: some have support out of the box in ubuntu.. some require you to compile drivers etc..
[20:40] <michael_> Attempting to use WoW via Cegega on Gutsy-- Pulls up with only a black screen and pointer then freezes, any ideas-- Also, how do i know if the games updates have been dled-- I dont think they have
[20:40] <Dutzzu> Slart,  if i type lsusb i have: Device 003: ID 093a:0007 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[20:40] <subpar_> ‮
[20:41] <Slart> michael_: ask the Cedega people.. you've paid for it, right?
[20:41] <Dutzzu> Slart,  how can i check if it's suportetd by Ubuntu ?
[20:41] <loosecannon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:41] <Slart> Dutzzu: ok... hang on.. do you have the manufacturer/model of the webcam?
[20:41] <tbnorth> does livecd 7.10 have rsync on it?
[20:41] <michael_> ya =( thought itd been easier if someone else has experienced this
[20:41] <Dutzzu> i have the install cd... but it's for windows :/
[20:41] <michael_> then waiting on a stupid email -.-
[20:42] <Dutzzu> Slart,  on the install-cd it writes: VP-EYE :)
[20:42] <Dutzzu> Slart,  and, as i sayd, if i type: lsusb it says: Device 003: ID 093a:0007 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[20:42] <Slart> Dutzzu: ah.. they only offer support through email? .. bah.. well... I don't play wow.. managed to stay away so far =)
[20:42] <Slart> Dutzzu: ok.. hang on.. I'll try some google fu
[20:43] <david__> I wonder why my network is slow...
[20:43] <linux-man> sup
[20:43] <kazil> i just don`t get it... why did they split up httpd.conf in so many files? much easier when its all in one place....
[20:43] <Lunks> I had an ubuntu install which broke; Now I'm gonna remove windows and use the whole partition to ubuntu. my old windows is now mounted as /. I'd like to have my old ubuntu partition to become /home, but first I'm backing it up. After I remove everything from it and mount it as /home, will there be any catch on making everything the normal way? Is there an easier way? Thanks for any information.
[20:44] <danbhfive> Lunks: I have a website that might help
[20:44] <ompaul> Lunks, back up everything and then reinstall from scratch
[20:44] <Lunks> danbhfive: could you please post it?
[20:44] <Lunks> ompaul: Why, can't I make a partition with /home afterwards?
[20:45] <danbhfive> Lunks: http://hollocher.hobby-site.org/drupal/?q=node/39
[20:45] <Lunks> ompaul: I AM installing from scratch, except that I'm planning to make a new /home partition.
[20:45] <Lunks> danbhfive: thanks, i'll check
[20:45] <danbhfive> its my own personal site, so please opy whatever info you need: Lunks
[20:45] <mark3mk> does anyone know the key combination to get terminal server client out of full screen mode?
[20:45] <michael_> how can i check on how much ram i have on my computer without restarting
[20:46] <kazil> ashkore: how u doin`?
[20:46] <ompaul> Lunks, I must have misread what you wrote
[20:46] <soundray> michael_: enter "free" in a terminal
[20:46] <AgentHeX> Lunks: did you just install ubuntu over the windows install on an ntfs partition?
[20:46] <Slart> Dutzzu: haven't found a solution yet.. but here's some other guy with the same brand of webcam http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=524428
[20:46] <ashkore> im on the fone
[20:46] <Lunks> AgentHeX: No, I've made a new ext3 partition.
[20:46] <unop> ubuntu on ntfs?
[20:46] <AgentHeX> Lunks: how did you get windows installed there?
[20:46] <Lunks> AgentHeX: I removed windows partition
[20:47] <mark3mk> michael system monitor
[20:47] <AgentHeX> unop: i know it sounds crazy, and no, i have not tried, but i would imagine it's possible
[20:47] <Lunks> AgentHeX: Actually, there's Wubi which is almost a "Ubuntu on NTFS"
[20:47] <Lunks> !wubi | AgentHeX
[20:47] <ubotu> AgentHeX: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[20:48] <aladdinsane> ok, still looking for a good scientific/graphing calculator, i found "Qualculate!" which is a great scientific calculator but lacks the graphing capabilities. If anyone has a tip of one that combines the two like say a Texas Instrument 85 calculator, pls shout it out
[20:48] <unop> AgentHeX, I dunno if the installer would know what NTFS is .. but you can migrate partitions over to NTFS later on (provided you have NTFS read write support installed)
[20:48] <AgentHeX> Lunks: i assume that's a version of ubuntu that runs within windows?
[20:48] <Dutzzu> Slart, i've already seen that topic :*
[20:48] <Dutzzu> :(
[20:48] <AgentHeX> unop: the text-mode installer for the alternate CD recognizes my NTFS partitions and mounts them in /media
[20:48] <michael_> 515648- Available.      used: 436848 Why is so much memory being used??? what does the swap mean?
[20:48] <Slart> Dutzzu: can't find any other info on your webcam... sorry
[20:48] <Lunks> AgentHeX: It's similar to mounting isos on ubuntu
[20:49] <mavi-> michael_: linux maps up all memory, all of it isnt in use by programs
[20:49] <Lunks> AgentHeX: It creates a file which it will load and treat as a mount point.
[20:49] <AgentHeX> Lunks: hmmm...  i'm curious -- not enough to try anything but still curious
[20:49] <LjL> aladdinsane: hm? qalculate graphs
[20:49] <Dutzzu> Slart,  one more question: if i type: deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
[20:49] <Dutzzu> i get the message
[20:49] <LjL> aladdinsane: i mean ok, it uses gnuplot to, but still
[20:49] <kazil> !zend studio
[20:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zend studio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:49] <kazil> :(
[20:49] <Dutzzu> bash: deb: command not found
[20:50] <mavi-> michael_: swap means the same, but for the memory-swap-partition
[20:50] <Lunks> AgentHeX: If you already use Ubuntu there's no point using it. But if you want someone to try it, it's the best choice
[20:50] <unop> AgentHeX, hmm... but have you ever tried making a mount point like / or /usr or /var formatted as NTFS within the installer tho?
[20:50] <Dutzzu> what do i have to installl ?
[20:50] <danbhfive> Dutzzu thats a source
[20:50] <Nullus> hey
[20:50] <AgentHeX> Lunks: i'm dual-booting with Ubuntu and XP
[20:50] <danbhfive> System >  ... > Software Sources or something
[20:50] <michael_> mavi: ok, well based on system monitor- only 2.5gb is being used, so i guessi installed it correctly
[20:50] <AgentHeX> unop: nope.  haven't tried.
[20:50] <Dutzzu> danbhfive, it's the same like typeing with wget ? insteed of deb ?
[20:50] <genii> Dutzzu: Instead of trying to execute that line as a command, instead add it (with admin write priveledge) to /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:51] <pmcnabb> is there a way to buffer screensavers run with "-root" so the background is not cleared when something is drawn over it?
[20:51] <MikeH> I'm trying to copy a load of stuff from one hd/folder to another, and the copy stopped half-way through somewhere, I think because one of the files was in use, now how can I start that copy again without overwriting what's there?
[20:51] <danbhfive> Dutzzu System > Admin > Software Sources
[20:51] <AgentHeX> unop: as i recall, there's no option to format / with NTFS, so it's probably not possible to r/w the partition until the kernel (and perhaps other parts of the system) is available.
[20:51] <rabidweezle> how do I enable mouse in my console?
[20:51] <soundray> MikeH: no
[20:51] <LjL> rabidweezle: install gpm
[20:52] <rabidweezle> thanks
[20:52] <deadlock> MikeH: When it asks if you want to copy over the files click skip, it will copy whatever files arent already there.
[20:52] <Lunks> danbhfive: Thanks, it will help me later
[20:52] <MikeH> soundray, no?
[20:52] <rabidweezle> then reboot?
[20:52] <MikeH> deadlock, thanks.
[20:52] <deadlock> MikeH: When it asks if you want to copy over the files click skip, it will copy whatever files arent already there.
[20:52] <unop> AgentHeX, which is what i mean exactly too
[20:52] <LjL> rabidweezle: no, then use the mouse
[20:52] <AgentHeX> unop: maybe using ext2 for /boot and ntfs for the root partition.  iono.  i'm not going to try, but if someone in this room is crazy enough to try, i'm sure they'll get back to us -- or not if it borks their system.  :-P
[20:52] <kazil> please, somebody... zend studio, when i start it it`s all gray. someone knows anything about it?
[20:52] <soundray> MikeH: you can use rsync instead of cp if you want to avoid re-transferring files
[20:52] <mavi-> kazil: thats was a compiz-bug some year ago
[20:52] <rabidweezle> ahh
[20:52] <rabidweezle> ok
[20:52] <soundray> MikeH: cp doesn't stop because of a file being "in use", by the way
[20:52] <rabidweezle> it works
[20:52] <rabidweezle> nice
[20:52] <tommax1083> hi, all i ve a problem with a router wireless...I have a sitecom wireless connected to ADSL, and i have a netgear dg834g for try to repeat signal.
[20:53] <mavi-> kazil: try open a terminal and type "metacity --replace"
[20:53] <mavi-> kazil: and then restart zend
[20:53] <rabidweezle> thanks lgl
[20:53] <kazil> just a sec
[20:53] <unop> AgentHeX, I've used /usr/ on an NTFS partition temporarily once while making some free space  ...  but only temporarily
[20:53] <tommax1083> but netgear dont repeat signal... anyone can help me?
[20:53] <unop> dont see why / wouldnt work tho
[20:53] <mavi-> kazil: "metacity --replace &" even
[20:53] <aladdinsane> LjL-Temp: Maybe its just me having a bad day but do you mean i can plot graphs with Qalculate! or is there a standalone called "Qalculate graphs"? cause in that case i cant find it
[20:53] <AgentHeX> unop: i would imagine that if the kernel has the NTFS driver, you would only need ext2 for the kernel and the rest could be ntfs
[20:54] <genii> tommax1083: I do not think that qualifies as an ubuntu-related tech question
[20:54] <AgentHeX> unop: again, i don't care enough to try, but it's good discussion material
[20:54] <tommax1083> where i can find group?
[20:54] <LjL> aladdinsane: File > Plot Function/Data, enter an expression, and click "Add". at least on the KDE version.
[20:54] <Lunks> danbhfive: By the way, do you believe 40gb to / and 80gb to /home is the best way?
[20:54] <michael_> how can i check if my NVIDIA graphics cards is running in OpenGL mode with ubuntu
[20:54] <kazil> mavi-: please send me your address... i`m gonna send u a case of beer man!!!
[20:54] <MikeH> hrm
[20:55] <mavi-> kazil: haha =)
[20:55] <unop> Lunks, is a 2 seater coupe better than a 10 seater limousine? :)
[20:55] <Vad1> Hi. How can I make Ubuntu use my swap space?
[20:55] <MikeH> How can I mount a partition as root that is writable by anyone?
[20:55] <Lunks> michael_: glxinfo
[20:55] <soundray> unop: of course!
[20:55] <mavi-> kazil: but anyway, tried eclipse with the php-plugins, i like it more then zend
[20:55] <michael_> lunks: thanks
[20:55] <kazil> mavi-: thanks a lot
[20:55] <mavi-> kazil: try*
[20:55] <Vad1> Right now, when my RAM fills up, it just completely freezes my system, and that's it.
[20:55] <Slart> Vad1: remove memory?
[20:55] <Dutzzu> geni, danbhfive how can i edit that ?
[20:55] <mavi-> kazil: www.easyeclipse.org got some packages
[20:55] <unop> soundray, relative disposition does not apply :)
[20:55] <danbhfive> Lunks: well, it depends I guess, I have a 40g, and I did 30g to home, and 10g to /
[20:55] <kazil> yeah i tried it also but zend is much more for my taste :)
[20:55] <mavi-> ok
[20:55] <Slart> Vad1: the memory is ok? have you run a mem-test?
[20:55] <Lunks> unop: it depends! =P
[20:56] <danbhfive> lunks: you could probably do 10g to / and 110g to /home
[20:56] <soundray> unop: the best thing yet is a campervan, though
[20:56] <Vad1> Slart: Yes my memory is fine. It is however refusing to use the swap patrition.
[20:56] <unop> Lunks, there you go - you answered your own question then :)
[20:56] <Lunks> danbhfive: I will do something like it later. :P
[20:56] <Dutzzu> genii, danbhfive  with " pico " ?
[20:56] <Slart> Vad1: is it mounted as swap?
[20:56] <michael_> clear
[20:56] <mavi-> kazil: you will have to disable 3d-effects every time you want to run zend tho
[20:56] <aladdinsane> LjL-Temp: Magnificent! I totally missed that, pardon my stupidity, thnx!
[20:56] <unop> soundray, indeed :)
[20:56] <Lunks> unop: I'd rather would like to know how much is good to a / partition. :P
[20:56] <danbhfive> Dutzzu go to System > Admin> Software Sources
[20:56] <Slart> Vad1: and have you run the enable swap command.. swapon?
[20:56] <kazil> also i used zend for almost 2 years now... so i`m kinda use to it :)
[20:56] <mavi-> kazil: or maybe there are some compiz-patch for that if you are in the mood for fixing it.
[20:56] <Dutzzu> Slart, thank you for your time *anyway* :)
[20:56] <Vad1> Slart: How can I check? ah ok
[20:56] <krim> How can I make an .iso file into several 1gb .zip pieces to be opened in Windows? Rar might be acceptable too. The split solution seems too complicated for the person I'm going to send it to.
[20:56] <Dutzzu> danbhfive, oke, and than ?
[20:57] <aladdinsane> LjL-Temp: Magnificent! I totally missed that, pardon my stupidity, thnx!
[20:57] <Slart> Dutzzu: sorry I couldn't be more helpful... webcams are uncharted territory kind of..
[20:57] <Vad1> Slart: no idea what argument to use for swapon
[20:57] <danbhfive> Dutzzu go to 3rd party, and add it there
[20:57] <aladdinsane> ops
[20:57] <unop> Lunks, well, i choose to put /usr, /usr/local, /var, etc on different partitions .. in that case 256Mb for / suffices
[20:57] <unop> or less even
[20:57] <Slart> Vad1: sudo swapon -a
[20:57] <Vad1> Slart: I put the system monitor applet for swap and ram in my gnome bar. It just says 0% for swap though
[20:57] <danbhfive> slart dutzzu I think I might pirate a copy of windows or something :(  just for the webcam
[20:57] <unop> Lunks, it totally depends on how you have chosen to partition your disk and assign mount points
[20:58] <Dutzzu> danbhfive,  i thought about that too... using wine :-s
[20:58] <Lunks> unop: I'm just separating / and /home as almost every other directory doesn't have a clear purpose. :P
[20:58] <genii> Dutzzu: danbhfive recommended the system>admin>sources   route which is likely easiest. but you can also manually add with something like sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list        or alt-f2 then gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:58] <Vad1> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m1e5fc7ec
[20:58] <Dutzzu> Slart,  thank you anyway, :D i apraciate that you tried :)
[20:58] <danbhfive> Dutzzu no, you cant use wine
[20:58] <Slart> danbhfive: yes.. webcams and wi-fi are things that need some work in the linux world.. wi fi is getting better.. let's hope webcams will come along shortly too
[20:58] <unop> Lunks, in that case I would use a liberal 20Gb for / and the rest for /home
[20:58] <Lunks> unop: I feel like Captain Obvious, but I only know /home is for my own stuff. :P
[20:59] <Lunks> ok, then
[20:59] <unop> Lunks, wow .. now, i didnt even know that :)
[20:59] <Lunks> haha lol
[20:59] <Slart> Vad1: moved disks recently? it seems it doesn't find the disk it wants..
[20:59] <michael_> Using Cedega and WoW with Gutsy-- How do i get WoW to update itself-- Anyone experience this problem
[20:59] <michael_> or patch
[20:59] <unop> Lunks, you could mount /home into some other directory under / too, ya know? :)
[20:59] <Vad1> Slart: I did install the ubuntu server edition on my laptop today, yeah.
[20:59] <Lunks> =P
[21:00] <Vad1> Slart: and told it to use the same swap space. I thought that was legal.
[21:00] <zancik> where I can change my splash screens?
[21:00] <Vad1> Slart: what do I dooo?
[21:00] <Slart> Vad1: yes.. that would be alright.. check in the file /etc/fstab... somewhere in there is a line that defines what partition to use for swap..
[21:01] <Dutzzu> pff, i have to go now
[21:01] <Dutzzu> i  ll try later
[21:01] <Dutzzu> have a good night
[21:01] <unop> or more if you use multiple swap paritions
[21:01] <Slart> good night Dutzzu
[21:01] <Dutzzu> & thank you again for your time :)
[21:01] <zancik> where I can change my splash screens?
[21:01] <Vad1> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m78f21b29
[21:02] <MikeH> deadlock, I'm getting told there isn't enough space on the destination disc
[21:02] <MikeH> However there would be if just the files that were missing were added.?
[21:02] <soundray> MikeH: why aren't you listening to me?
[21:02] <michael_> Using Cedega and WoW with Gutsy-- How do i get WoW to update itself-- Anyone experience this problem
[21:02] <kazil> mavi-: there`s some zend plugin for eclipse in beta available on zend.com. u tried it?
[21:02] <xxxterrible_tick> whats up
[21:02] <MikeH> soundray, all you said was no?
[21:02] <Slart> Vad1: ok.. can you find out what partition is supposed to be the swap partition? it would be called something like /dev/sda1 .. might even be just that
[21:03] <soundray> MikeH: you mean you missed all the other things I said to you?
[21:03] <MikeH> soundray, sorry, didn't see the other stuff
[21:03] <syndr0> hello all
[21:03] <JohnJoe101> get out
[21:03] <syndr0> lol
[21:03]  * soundray wonders why some people can be bothered to ask a question, but can't be bothered to read the answers...
[21:04] <JohnJoe101> lol
[21:04] <jimmygoon> !dvd
[21:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[21:04] <Vad1> Slart: gparted says /dev/sda1
[21:04] <ashkore> kazil: im back, sorry, ive been on the phone for 30 mins
[21:04] <MikeH> soundray, ok, so say I wanted to "sync" /path/to/d to /another/path/to/d with rsync, how would I go about it?
[21:04] <michael_> Using Cedega and WoW with Gutsy-- How do i get WoW to update or patch itself-- Anyone experience this problem
[21:04] <kazil> ashkore: no probs :)
[21:04] <kazil> it installed mysql?
[21:04] <syndr0> ok i had to force mount my other partitions and am now cleaning up the partitions i deleted a bunch of data but why does it say that there is still mass amount of space used?
[21:04] <doublehp> hello
[21:04] <ashkore> im just about to start it now
[21:05] <Slart> Vad1: ok then.. change "UUID=816b665a-5723-4a04-96fa-b335ea6601fa" to "/dev/sda1" and then try the "sudo swapon -a" command again
[21:05] <kazil> oh
[21:05] <kazil> ok
[21:05] <soundray> MikeH: use rsync --help to find out about the available parameters and pick the ones you need. Use --dry-run for testing before you run the command in earnest.
[21:05] <dmckee> My fstab looks corect for a drive that gives me an fstab (line8) error. anyway I can find out what might be wrong on it?
[21:05] <mcscruff> lo
[21:05] <syndr0> Lunks, you here?
[21:05] <IRC`ENGINEER> ubuntu has gui?
[21:05] <Lunks> syndr0: yep
[21:06] <AgentHeX> !xen
[21:06] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[21:06] <Lunks> IRC`ENGINEER: yes, it has
[21:06] <syndr0> lunks: i finally got my partitions to be mounted i had to force mount them.
[21:06] <Vad1> Slart: it didn't complain this time. How can I check if its working? I dont want to lock up my laptop again.
[21:06] <IRC`ENGINEER> lunks is it easy to use?
[21:06] <ilreds> hi to all
[21:06] <Lunks> IRC`ENGINEER: It depends =P
[21:06] <Slart> Vad1: check "free" see if it says anything about swap space
[21:06] <unop> IRC`ENGINEER, thats like asking if a BMW is easier to drive than a mercedes is
[21:06] <doublehp> I've got a breezy in hands; I want to install gnucash; I have a very bad experience in upgrading Ubuntu; last time I did it, it took me hours, and I lost network connection, and sound (because of broken kernel, resolving deps). do you have any advice to give me to install gnucash a soft way without having to upgrade any thing ? I really fear breaking this system.
[21:06] <dmckee> Looking for terminal command to learn what if my drive is truly sdc2... halp!
[21:06] <soundray> dmckee: paste /etc/fstab on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for us to have a look at it
[21:06] <syndr0> lunks: now after i mounted them i went through it and deleted a bunch of stuff, how come it still hasnt opened up any space?
[21:07] <IRC`ENGINEER> Lunks I am worried whether i will be able to install modem, sound, vga drivers or nto
[21:07] <mafsi> !mount
[21:07] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[21:07] <Lunks> syndr0: It usually happens when you didn't shutdown correctly on windows
[21:07] <dAvE333> How can you tell if acpi works
[21:07] <Vad1> Slart: http://pastebin.com/m422d639e. Looks right?
[21:07] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[21:07] <ompaul> doublehp, breezy is no longer supported please get a later CD
[21:07] <IRC`ENGINEER> Lunks I never used linux before
[21:07] <dmckee> ty soundray
[21:07] <MikeH> hrm
[21:07] <dAvE333> and if the battery is charging?
[21:07] <ilreds> i have a hp 530 laptop...what kind of speaker system can i use with that laptop?
[21:07] <Lunks> IRC`ENGINEER: try wubi
[21:07] <IRC`ENGINEER> So want to start with ubuntu
[21:07] <mafsi> !DiskMounter
[21:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[21:07] <Lunks> IRC`ENGINEER: are you on windows?
[21:07] <IRC`ENGINEER> lunks yes
[21:07] <ilreds> i've only the jack audio aout
[21:07] <Lunks> !wubi | IRC`ENGINEER
[21:07] <ubotu> IRC`ENGINEER: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[21:07] <soundray> dAvE333: there are gnome applets that show you the battery status.
[21:07] <IRC`ENGINEER> trying linux first time, A friend suggested me to use ubuntu
[21:07] <ashkore> !paste
[21:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:08] <soundray> dAvE333: simple test: 'acpi -V' in terminal
[21:08] <doublehp> ompaul: I know, and I just explained why I dont want to use a newer CD*
[21:08] <Lunks> IRC`ENGINEER: wubi is just a way to install ubuntu on windows
[21:08] <Lunks> IRC`ENGINEER: it's good to try it out
[21:08] <LjL> IRC`ENGINEER, just run the Live CD, it will give you an idea of how well your hardware is supported. you can even install stuff on the live CD (although, of course, it's lost when you reboot)
[21:08] <Slart> Vad1: you've got about 1.8 GB of swap now.. sounds correct?
[21:08] <dAvE333> soundray, I used the Xubuntu cd and installed fluxbox to help my computer
[21:08] <ashkore> kazil: what does "flooding the channel mean"?
[21:08] <ashkore> in paste
[21:08] <syndr0> lunks: thats why i had to force mount it. do i have to move the files i want to one partition and format one, then move the files to the newly formatted partition and then format the last ntfs partition?
[21:08] <Lunks> syndr0: If you have to force it, it means it wasn't clean unmounted
[21:08] <ashkore> !paste kazil
[21:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste kazil - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:08] <dAvE333> cool
[21:08] <kazil> ashkore: when u wirte a lot of things here
[21:08] <kazil> and fast
[21:08] <Lunks> syndr0: Do you have a Windows on your machine?
[21:08] <Seivan|> Can someone help me with contrab, I try to add the VNCserver but I just get USER environmental variabel not set
[21:08] <michael_> Using Cedega and WoW with Gutsy-- How do i get WoW to update or patch itself-- Anyone experience this problem
[21:08] <Seivan|> in mail
[21:09] <kazil> instead use paste
[21:09] <dAvE333> battery charge ac adapter online
[21:09] <MikeH> soundray, i did " rsync -r --dry-run /media/FreeAgent\ Drive/Data/d/ /media/temp/d/" but got no output?
[21:09] <soundray> dAvE333: you can also explore the contents of /proc/acpi
[21:09] <IRC`ENGINEER> LjL , cool your help appreciated
[21:09] <syndr0> lunks: not anymore, just ubuntu
[21:09] <Vad1> Slart: gparted says it's 1.59gb.. but that's good still. Will it auto-mount each time now
[21:09] <IRC`ENGINEER> lunks your too
[21:09] <dAvE333> cool
[21:09] <Vad1> ?
[21:09] <dAvE333> thanks
[21:09] <ompaul> doublehp, okay, let me make this simple, you will not get breezy help here, it is out of date, and support for it has gone away, I am advising a fresh install with a new CD, safer than upgrading
[21:09] <ashkore> what do you mean use paste?
[21:09] <ashkore> !paste
[21:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:09] <IRC`ENGINEER> Lunks I wonder why Ubuntu is for free?
[21:09] <Lunks> syndr0: then why use ntfs?
[21:09] <syndr0> irce'engineer , lunks and ljl are kewl
[21:09] <kazil> pastebin
[21:09] <kazil> go to that link
[21:09] <ted0816> Hi,  whenever I run any torrent clients my computer freezes after some time.  I have tried many clients with all the same result.  Any ideas?
[21:09] <syndr0> ubuntu is open source thats why its free
[21:09] <IRC`ENGINEER> I was inspired to see Ubuntu Stickers and posters everywhere in my university
[21:09] <Vad1> ted0816: deluge?
[21:09] <kazil> u`ll see a place to paste large texts
[21:09] <soundray> IRC`ENGINEER: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:09] <jimmygoon> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh doesn't exist in gutsy?
[21:09] <Lunks> haha tnx syndr0
[21:09] <syndr0> lol
[21:10] <soundray> IRC`ENGINEER: this channel is strictly for helping people to get it up and running
[21:10] <Slart> Vad1:hmm.. not sure.. but you could try adding a "auto" where it says "none" atm  in /etc/fstab.. I think it'll use it automagically then
[21:10] <jimmygoon> The wii is wrong
[21:10] <syndr0> lunks: i wanna reformat them from ntfs to another file system, but i want to save my mp3s and movies
[21:10] <lookup> hey all
[21:10] <ted0816> Vadl:  Yes, I have tried Deluge and same problem
[21:10] <syndr0> lunks: also what fs should i format them too? reiserfs?
[21:10] <lookup> amarok keeps crashing on me and i can't seem to figure out why
[21:10] <Lunks> syndr0: You should back it up, then
[21:10] <ImP0steR> Info-Line for err0r: [00:30:45] <+Err0r> ñëéðéí æä áëìì ìà ãå÷ø
[21:10] <lookup> can anybody help me out
[21:10] <IRC`ENGINEER> okay soundray :)
[21:10] <Vad1> Slart: thanks man. Lets hope it'll do better this time
[21:11] <Lunks> syndr0: If it's just for mp3 and movies, I believe reiserfs should be a good try, though I've never used it
[21:11] <syndr0> lunks: back it up on an external media?
[21:11] <err0r> #ubuntu-de
[21:11] <err0r> sry
[21:11] <Slart> Vad1: you're welcome
[21:11] <kazil> ashkore http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47020/ an example
[21:11] <ashkore> kazil, ive installed mysql
[21:11] <MartianLobster> is there a howto somewhere, for installing wifi cards on laptops with ubuntu?   I have an acer laptop, with an aetheros wifi card.
[21:11] <syndr0> lunks: what fs do you use?
[21:11] <Lunks> syndr0: backit up anywhere you want =P
[21:11] <Lunks> syndr0: ext3 and ntfs
[21:11] <ted0816> Vad1: do you have any idea how I can fix the problem
[21:11] <syndr0> lunks: go private with me for one sec please
[21:11] <doublehp> ompaul: last time I updated locally a Breezy, I lost network and sound; this time, I performing remote maintainance; so, there is not way for me to either use a CD (the box is 400 miles away), or think of changing the kernel (what is often required to upgrade a Debian ). So, for you, the conclusion is just; impossible ?
[21:11] <soundray> MikeH: did you actually look at all the options? I imagine that you want at least --owner --group --times --perms
[21:11] <kazil> restart apache
[21:11] <Lunks> syndr0: ok
[21:11] <ashkore> ok
[21:11] <soundray> !madwifi | MartianLobster
[21:11] <ubotu> MartianLobster: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:11] <ashkore> what was the syntax again? sudo apaceh2ctl -k restart?
[21:12] <kazil> yes
[21:12] <MartianLobster> thansk soundray
[21:12] <ompaul> doublehp, round about that
[21:12] <Lunks> !reiser
[21:12] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[21:12] <soundray> MartianLobster: look out for advice relating to madwifi -- it's the name of the Atheros driver
[21:12] <mafsi> hi everybody
[21:12] <ashkore> then what was the connector package?
[21:12] <doublehp> ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
[21:12] <ted0816> Hi,  whenever I run any torrent clients my computer freezes after some time.  I have tried many clients with all the same result.  Any ideas?
[21:13] <kazil> ashkore: sudo apt-get install php5-mysql  this should be next
[21:13] <MikeH> soundray, ok, but they arn't going to change the fact dry run gave me no output
[21:13] <Lunks> syndr0: looks like ubotu just answered your question; you should go well using etx3
[21:13] <ompaul> !lts | doublehp
[21:13] <ubotu> doublehp: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[21:13] <Lunks> !reiser | syndr0
[21:13] <ubotu> syndr0: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
[21:13] <mafsi> is a good way to create a folder on desktop for example & to mount an .iso there or should I mount in /dev ?
[21:13] <daedra> facsits
[21:13] <haze76> u
[21:13] <daedra> fascists* ...
[21:13] <Lunks> mafsi: you should be good on your desktop
[21:13] <ashkore> then do i restart apache
[21:13] <kazil> yes
[21:14] <doublehp> ompaul: ok; I ll stop using Ubuntu then.
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
[21:14] <mafsi> Lunks: but whe i mount the iso i find the files as root:root permission; why?
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
 ompaul: Breezy getting unmaintained after only 2 years, thats really unfair. Even Windows has a 5y support waranty.
[21:14] <Lunks> mafsi: you shouldn't use /dev. If you wanna keep yourself organized, you should use /media
[21:14] <TBotNik_1> All, looking for Neddyseagoon, seen him?  He has a Xwin Driver build page that I need a link to!
[21:14] <kazil> ashkore: yaraaa614: is now flooding the channel :D
[21:14] <soundray> MikeH: look, I told you what to do. It's not that difficult to find out what to do, based on my advice.
[21:14] <kazil> just for an example :D
[21:14] <ashkore> thanks (y)
[21:14] <ashkore> *sorry - used to msn emoticons
[21:14] <syndr0> lunks: look at private
[21:15] <Lunks> mafsi: You should use -o users, loop (or user,loop not sure)
[21:15] <mafsi> Lunks: so mkdir /media/myvirtualDVD and mount there?
[21:15] <Lunks> mafsi: yep, that's how ubuntu does by default
[21:15] <kazil> ashkore no prob :D
[21:15] <doublehp> danbhfive: Gentoo has softer migration process; Debian has longer waranties, I may also have a look at Mandrake ...
[21:15] <MikeH> ok, I missed -v
[21:15] <mafsi> and  -o what does do?
[21:15] <Lunks> syndr0: no msgs from you on my pvt. O.o
[21:15] <kazil> ashkore: install phpmyadmin for final step
[21:15] <kazil> if u need it
[21:15] <ted0816> Hi,  whenever I run any torrent clients my computer freezes after some time.  I have tried many clients with all the same result.  Any ideas?
[21:15] <syndr0> wat?
[21:15] <mafsi> Lunks:   and  -o what does do?
[21:15] <ashkore> thanks alot kazil, my phpinfo file now reads mysql and mysqli
[21:15] <danbhfive> doublehp but if you are thinking of switching, why cant you switch to a modern version of ubuntu?
[21:15] <Lunks> mafsi: may I ask, how are you mounting your iso?
[21:15] <mdomsch> Updating System BIOS when running Ubuntu: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/12/05/37446.aspx
[21:15] <LjL> !traffic
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[21:16] <syndr0> lunks: how bout now?
[21:16] <mafsi> Lunks: i installed Gmount-iso
[21:16] <Lunks> mafsi: hmm never used it
[21:16] <Seivan|> How do you make a program start when you boot the computer?
[21:16] <doublehp> danbhfive: I will tell the owner of the machine to re-install, and I ll afvise to change distro
[21:16] <mafsi> Lunks: can you tell me the command line, pls?
[21:16] <Slart> was breezy a LTS releast?
[21:16] <lastelement0> hi i just recieved an error message on start "Unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-setting-daemon'.
[21:17] <lastelement0> how do i fix this?
[21:17] <kazil> someone in for some floodin`? :D
[21:17] <Odd-rationale> lastelement0: Try logging out and back in.
[21:17] <soundray> Seivan|: really on boot, or when you log in?
[21:17] <Lunks> mafsi: there's a terminal command to mount isos: sudo mount file.iso /media/virtualdvd -o loop (users or user should make it user writable
[21:17] <Lunks> syndr0: not
[21:17] <Seivan|> soundray: on boot
[21:17] <syndr0> lunks: i think i need to register
[21:17] <mafsi> Lunks: let's try :D
[21:17] <Lunks> mafsi: so it should be -o loop,users
[21:17] <ted0816> Hi,  whenever I run any torrent clients my computer freezes after some time.  I have tried many clients with all the same result.  Any ideas?
[21:17] <kazil> ashkore: what u do with php? apps or web pages?
[21:17] <soundray> Seivan|: call it from /etc/rc.local .  Warning: it will run with root privileges.
[21:18] <mafsi> Lunks: users mean my user?
[21:18] <danbhfive> doublehp: well, ubuntu does have a longterm support release, which is currently dapper i believe
[21:18] <Lunks> mafsi: nop
[21:18] <ashkore> whats the difference?
[21:18] <Seivan|> soundray: I just want to start the vncserver when my server boots, how can I do that?
[21:18] <Lunks> mafsi: I'm not sure about this option, but it should be 'user' or 'users'
[21:18] <ashkore> i make websites
[21:18] <ashkore> but i would say it was a app
[21:18] <ashkore> i am currently working on a social network
[21:18] <mafsi> Lunks: aham, i'll give a try right now
[21:19] <kazil> ashkore: under apps i mean on phpdriven apps not for web pages... like on localhost only
[21:19] <ashkore> what are php driven apps?
[21:19] <syndr0> lunks: i msged you
[21:19] <soundray> Seivan|: I don't know, that's a bit more involved. You can run it from gdm. I think there is a thread or even a howto on the ubuntu forums -- worth a search.
[21:19] <Seivan|> soundray:
[21:20] <Seivan|> soundray: I did @reboot /usr/bin/tightvncserver :1
[21:20] <Seivan|> However I get USER environmental variabel not set when I reboot in mail
[21:20] <kazil> ashkore: i`m into making an accounting program in php use it on localhost only (btw sorry for bad english :))
[21:20] <ashkore> ok
[21:21] <kazil> ashkore: u got any personal website to check it out?
[21:21] <ashkore> kazil, about samba, can i create a domain and get windows to connect to it?
[21:21] <ashkore> no
[21:21] <kazil> don`t know that... i use it only to connect to windows network
[21:21] <ashkore> ok
[21:22] <TerribleTickler> hey
[21:22] <ashkore> kazil, where is phpmyadmin installed to?
[21:22] <soundray> Seivan|: here's something I found for Gentoo -- maybe you can adapt it for Ubuntu: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xvnc_terminal_server
[21:22] <mafsi> Lunks:  sudo mount file.iso /media/virtualdvd -o loop,users
[21:22] <kazil> localhost/phpmyadmin/
[21:22] <ompaul> !vnc
[21:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:23] <ashkore> ok
[21:23] <sake> #Ubuntu-pl
[21:23] <mafsi> Lunks: it worked! 10x a lot
[21:23] <Lunks> mafsi: =)
[21:23] <Lunks> mafsi: thanks for letting me know it's users
[21:23] <ashkore> it says Url Not Found
[21:23] <kazil> :(
[21:23] <kazil> u restarted apache?
[21:23] <Lunks> mafsi: if you want to run something on it, you should use exec option as well
[21:23] <ashkore> oo.. no :) hehe
[21:23] <kazil> haha :D
[21:23] <Lunks> mafsi: so it becomes users,loop,exec
[21:23] <soundray> ompaul: how best to start VNC to enable remote login direct after boot?
[21:23] <kazil> u`ll get use to it... i did :D
[21:24] <mafsi> Lunks: exec? what does this command  do?
[21:24] <ompaul> soundray, my take on it was it was a daemon and started itself
[21:24] <Lunks> mafsi: lets you run stuff on a partition with 'users' set
[21:24] <ashkore> still,, 404
[21:24] <kazil> :-/
[21:24] <Lunks> mafsi: if you'll just browse files i.e. not run anything, it should go fine without it
[21:24] <LimCore> where can I find the config
[21:25] <mafsi> Lunks: aham
[21:25] <dmckee_> sfdidk -l lists my drives as sdd1 sdd2 sdd3... but my drives are mounted as sda sdb sdc. why is that?
[21:25] <LimCore> used for my kernel?  its not in /proc/config.gz
[21:25] <ashkore> any ideas?
[21:25] <mafsi> Lunks: another problem if you have some time, pls
[21:25] <kazil> ashkore /etc/phpmyadmin?
[21:25] <spr0k3t> If I want to overwrite an icon (ex: start-here.svg), where do I put the new file at for my profile?
[21:25] <soundray> ompaul: no, following the factoid instructions, you have to start vncserver interactively via ssh or so.
[21:26] <mafsi> Lunks: i don't understant at all fstab so here is my problem:
[21:26] <mafsi> Lunks: i have a portable hdd which is automatically mounted at start up
[21:26] <ompaul> soundray, ahh - I don't use it, my preference is for xdmcp and krdc if I have to
[21:26] <xeer> so i installed the new ati drivers and i have compiz turned on. when i maximize a window with the effect enabled, GDM restarts. what would cause this?
[21:27] <ashkore> yes its there
[21:27] <soundray> Seivan|: did you see what ompaul said? ^^
[21:27] <mafsi> Lunks: if i umount it i can do it as user, but then if i want to mount back it gives me error: cannot mpunt /media/portable cause is not in fstab
[21:27] <TerribleTickler> i have a atheros wifi card or something prebuilt into my laptop. How can i get my wifi to work? i have a acer aspire 5610z
[21:27] <ashkore> and theres a file called httpd.conf that lists the alias /phpmyadmin to /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[21:27] <ashkore> so i don't see how it's not working
[21:27] <soundray> !wifi | TerribleTickler
[21:27] <ubotu> TerribleTickler: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:27] <TerribleTickler> thank you
[21:27] <ompaul> Seivan|, if windows I insist on xcygwin calling to xdmcp
[21:27] <soundray> TerribleTickler: the driver is called madwifi
[21:28] <mafsi> Lunks: how can i add it to fstab; that file is roket science to me :)
[21:28] <TerribleTickler> ok
[21:28] <Lunks> mafsi: I don't remember how to do it
[21:28] <soundray> See you all
[21:28] <ompaul> Seivan|, depends on trust of the network
[21:28] <Lunks> mafsi: I'll try to find it as soon as I can, but I'm kinda busy now
[21:28] <spr0k3t> If I want to overwrite an icon (ex: start-here.svg), where do I put the new file at for my profile?
[21:28] <ashkore> hehe
[21:28] <kazil> ashkore /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.conf?
[21:28] <mafsi> Lunks: 10x a lot 4 your help :) i owe u a beer
[21:28] <Lunks> mafsi: haha tnx
[21:29] <kazil> is the phpmyadmin part there?
[21:29] <dmckee_> All of my drives were mounted correctly on install except one. Its used to be listed in computer:/// and not able to be accessed. but now its not there and I can't find it. any help would be appriciated.
[21:29] <fairman> Hi, two question: how can i restart sound server? And how can i find out which sound server i am using?
[21:29] <ashkore> the alias.conf is there
[21:29] <kazil> is the phpmyadmin part there?
[21:29] <ashkore> no
[21:29] <ashkore> but im adding it
[21:29] <kazil> add it
[21:30] <bur[n]er> anyone try to compile midori?  I can get it to ./configure, but it fails on make
[21:30] <kazil> i presume it`s a bit mixed up cause u had earlier a lamp server
[21:30] <mafsi> fairman: init.d maybe?
[21:31] <fairman> mafsi: yes, i have already tried ...init.d/alsa restart
[21:31] <ashkore> then restart apache (y)
[21:31] <kazil> yes
[21:31] <fairman> mafsi: but how can i find out, what is the name of the sound server?
[21:31] <bur[n]er> fairman: killall esd and then start esd
[21:31] <arash> Hi, having the compiz basic windows effects activiated, what kind of resources will be mostly used, processor/memory/etc?
[21:31] <bur[n]er> fairman: if you use gnome, it's the enlightenment sound daemon or "esd"
[21:32] <dmckee_> All of my drives were mounted correctly on install except one. Its used to be listed in computer:/// and not able to be accessed fstab error). I played with fstab a little, but no luck. any help would be appriciated.
[21:32] <ashkore> still not there
[21:32] <fairman> bur[n]er: i am using kde
[21:32] <bur[n]er> arash: depends on your video card... if it can, it will rely on gpu power
[21:32] <bur[n]er> fairman: ksound?  got me
[21:32] <kazil> hmm...
[21:32] <arash> bur[n]er: ATI 9800, does that say anyting?
[21:32] <spr0k3t> If I want to overwrite an icon (ex: start-here.svg), where do I put the new file at for my profile?
[21:32] <bur[n]er> arash: not as much as just trying it out would... it's not hard to go to appearance and enable desktop effects ;)
[21:33] <genii> dmckee_: What did the drive used to be called when you saw it there?
[21:33] <mafsi> fairman: lspci
[21:33] <kazil> !paste
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[21:33] <dmckee_> genii: Big 5-0 (named in vista)
[21:33] <arash> bur[n]er: I have it activated :p, but I first thought memory would take the hit, but I don't see any background process taking much memory
[21:34] <kazil> ashkore: heres my phpmyadmin alias try it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47030/
[21:34] <mafsi> !lspci
[21:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lspci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:34] <bur[n]er> arash: can you play flash videos fullscreen with compiz enabled?  i couldn't on my intel
[21:34] <bur[n]er> s/couldn't/can't
[21:34] <genii> dmckee_: Ah, so ntfs. do: sudo fdisk -l and see if one of the drives registers as ntfs or hpfs
[21:34] <arash> bur[n]er: for example youtube videos?
[21:34] <fairman> mafsi: hm, i see only list of my hardware, audio device is from Intel
[21:34] <bur[n]er> arash: exactly
[21:34] <thefirstdude> why doesn't ubuntu have mod_proxy
[21:35] <bur[n]er> arash: or adultswim.com :)
[21:35] <thefirstdude> that's fucktarded
[21:35] <spr0k3t> If I want to overwrite an icon (ex: start-here.svg), where do I put the new file at for my profile?
[21:35] <LjL> !language | thefirstdude
[21:35] <dmckee_> genii: my otehr drive "Archive" is ntfs, and works great.
[21:35] <ompaul> !language | thefirstdude
[21:35] <ubotu> thefirstdude: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:35] <thefirstdude> oh, sry
[21:35] <wols_> !repeat | spr0k3t
[21:35] <mafsi> fairman: if you are using GUI : System >Administration > Sound
[21:35] <ashkore> is all of that ment to be in the alias.conf file?
[21:35] <ubotu> spr0k3t: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:35] <thefirstdude> didn't know this channel was like that
[21:35] <thefirstdude> sry
[21:35] <kazil> uhm yeah :D
[21:35] <bur[n]er> mafsi: fairman uses kde
[21:35] <ashkore> lol
[21:35] <ashkore> i thought just the Alias line
[21:35] <ashkore> stupid me
[21:36] <kazil> oh i forget 2 lines wait
[21:36] <dmckee_> genii: hmm not listed under there anymore. (fdisk) but it works in vista still....
[21:36] <mafsi> bur[n]er: how do u know? :-)
[21:36] <bur[n]er> mafsi: i asked earlier
[21:36] <spr0k3t> wols_: searching online while I wait... thanks though.
[21:36] <ashkore> well - to be fair im only 15 - lol
[21:36] <mafsi> bur[n]er: lol
[21:36] <aladdinsane> Is it always good to start up you applications with "Use startup notification" or could it in any way be disadvantageous to do so, i.e. slow things down, etc..
[21:36] <kazil> ashkore: the first line must be: <IfModule alias_module>
[21:36] <kazil> then comes what i pasted
[21:36] <arash> bur[n]er: strange, fullscreen deosn't work with or without effects
[21:36] <kazil> and the last must be: </IfModule>
[21:37] <genii> dmckee_: Perhaps "Archive" == "Big 5-0"
[21:37] <thefirstdude> anyway, does anyone know of a repository that has mod_proxy in it?
[21:37] <LjL> !nickspam > illumischicimerl    (illumischicimerl, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:37]  * revos cus
[21:37] <ompaul> thefirstdude, installing apache modules is easy enough libapache2-mod-rpaf or without the 2 - apt-cache search *
[21:37] <TerribleTickler> I cd'ed madwifi-0.9.3.3 then when I tried to ./configure it would not configure
[21:37] <dmckee_> genii: no... one is music one is movies :-\
[21:37] <bur[n]er> arash: get the new flashplayer ;)
[21:37] <fairman> mafsi: KDE has better software ... :) i am going to restart my pc
[21:38] <dmckee_> genii: any otehr command to see all drives?
[21:38] <mafsi> fairman: i prefer Gnome
[21:38] <bur[n]er> arash: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2007/12/flash_player_9_update_3_final.html
[21:38] <arash> bur[n]er: I think I got the closed ones tbh
[21:38] <TerribleTickler> what did i do wrong
[21:38] <genii> thefirstdude: sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-proxy-html
[21:38] <sebrock> why is my syslog flooded by this: Dec  5 21:38:01 frontend modprobe: WARNING: Error running install command for nvidia
[21:38] <sebrock> ALSO noted that I have some nvidia stuff in modprobe.d, althought I have no nvidia components????
[21:38] <fairman> mafsi: it is only up to everyone :)
[21:38] <mafsi> fairman: indeed :)
[21:39] <dad> motd
[21:39] <steveire> How do I use egrep to match lines containing 'class' followed by anything that is not a ';'? I tried egrep "class[^;]*", but it matches lines with a ';' too.
[21:39] <genii> dmckee_: If you don't see the drive listed in the fdisk -l command it's unlikely any other command involving disks will work on them
[21:40] <thefirstdude> I thought I wanted mod_proxy...I need that not the other stuff
[21:40] <pike_> steveire: might run that by #bash channel as well
[21:40] <syndr0> what software do i need to put music on my ipod for ubuntu 7.10
[21:40] <dmckee_> genii: understood. let me get into vista and see if it exists (god, i hope so) and I will get back to you in about 5mins if that. k?
[21:40] <pike_> syndr0: gtkpod is the basic solution or rythmbox a number of apps support ipods now
[21:40] <arash> !ipod | syndr0
[21:40] <ubotu> syndr0: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[21:41] <syndr0> ty
[21:41] <genii> dmckee_: Yup I'll be here
[21:41] <arash> I think that is correct
[21:41] <mafsi> syndr0: i use banshee
[21:41] <CrashOverride> what would happen if I ran :(){ :|:& };: ?
[21:41] <ompaul> thefirstdude, is this it: Apache2 filter module for HTML links rewriting mod_proxy_html is an output filter to rewrite HTML links in a proxy situation, to ensure that links work for users outside the proxy.
[21:41] <syndr0> mafsi: you like it better than rythmbox or gtkpod?
[21:41] <recon> LjL: i thought that was rather obvious, due to his name.
[21:41] <sebrock> is 'top' showing both cores or just one on an intel core 2 duo??
[21:41] <kazil> ashkore any luck?
[21:42] <ashkore> no
[21:42] <mafsi> syndr0: i prefer banshee rather than rythmbox
[21:42] <bruenig> why do they only use that fork bomb, it seems like you could come up with more clever variations
[21:42] <ompaul> thefirstdude, if so then what you want is:  mod-proxy-html
[21:42] <syndr0> mafsi: ill keep that in mind, what filesystem do you use ?
[21:42] <ompaul> bruenig, lack of cells to rub together
[21:42] <dm> Hello. I want to normalize an mp3 audio file losslessly. Can you reccommend a (tiny cmd line) tool for this task?
[21:42] <mafsi> syndr0: 7.10 ubuntu
[21:42] <ryanakca> Why is it that volumes in /dev/mapper don't get linked to from /dev/<hostname>/ ?
[21:42] <Slart> steveire: try doing that with a + instead of a *Ä
[21:43] <genii> ompaul: I already pointed him there but apparently he has some other idea of what it is
[21:43] <syndr0> mafsi: thats not the filesystem thats a version of linux
[21:43] <kazil> i`m kinda tired... my brain is sleepin`... can`t think of anything else...
[21:43] <syndr0> mafsi: ext2, ext3, resierfs, ntfs, fat, fat32, those are file systems
[21:43] <Slart> steveire: + means at least one character that's not a ;.. * would mean zero or more characters being something else than a ;
[21:43] <kazil> i presume u restarted apache? just to check...
[21:43] <mafsi> syndr0: resierfs
[21:44] <jyulliano> para brs: www.linuxmundo.blogspot.com
[21:44] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[21:44] <syndr0> mafsi: is it working ok for you, have you had any problems
[21:44] <ashkore> yes
[21:44] <AgentHeX> hey...  anyone know how to extract a .7z file (nautilus or CLI)
[21:44] <steveire> Slart: "^class($|[^;])"
[21:44] <linxeh> anyone know how well the Nvidia Quadro 4500 works under Ubuntu? Do the restricted drivers give decent performance ?
[21:44] <bruenig> !info 7zip
[21:44] <ubotu> Package 7zip does not exist in gutsy
[21:44] <ashkore> i think ive found my mistake
[21:44] <bruenig> wha
[21:44] <mafsi> syndr0: no problems at all; only a small obiection: i can put music in Ipod but i can't see the playlists that are in ipod
[21:44] <bruenig> !info 7z
[21:44] <ubotu> Package 7z does not exist in gutsy
[21:44] <ashkore> i used quotes in the alias line
[21:44] <prodigel2> Hi. I've installed a package and the executable name is not the same or close to the package name. Can I see somehow what files it contains or just what executables?
[21:45] <ashkore> but not in the <Directory Line
[21:45] <Slart> steveire: ah.. you got it =).. nevermind then
[21:45] <syndr0> ok
[21:45] <kazil> u don`t need qoute
[21:45] <aladdinsane> Is it always good to start up you applications with "Use startup notification" or could it in any way be disadvantageous to do so, i.e. slow things down, etc..?
[21:45] <bruenig> prodigel2, dpkg -L package
[21:45] <kazil> and no / at the end
[21:46] <mafsi> syndr0: i heard that amarok is very good but since i use Gnome i prefer not to load other libraries
[21:46] <ashkore> :)
[21:46] <AgentHeX> thx, bruenig, i think i found it in Synaptic
[21:46] <kazil> so it worx?
[21:46] <ashkore> ill change that then
[21:46] <ashkore> no - i had a / on the en
[21:46] <ashkore> d
[21:46] <kazil> :D
[21:46] <Roland> Hi. I was trying to change the bootloader using the guide on this site: http://jayant7k.blogspot.com/2007/06/change-boot-splash-screen-ubuntu.html  but i couldn't finish it.. because there was a package missing linux-image ... i installed the package and ran the command "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-" and as a result "sudo usplash" doesn't show any bootscreen
[21:46] <bruenig> amarok is fairly  heavy though
[21:46] <bruenig> if one cares about such things
[21:47] <mafsi> bruenig: are u talking with us?
[21:47] <bruenig> just throwing it out there
[21:47] <mafsi> bruenig: :)
[21:47] <Roland> can anyone tell me, how i could get the bootscreen back
[21:47] <ashkore> still not working
[21:47] <ashkore> ill pase my file
[21:48] <kazil> ok
[21:48] <kazil> u got phpmyadmin under /etc?
[21:48] <TerribleTickler> how do I find the source tree?
[21:48] <kaneelbroodje> Anyone happen to know a good dc client for nix* that can have the same virtual names for several directories? would be nice if things you already have in share shows colored when you browse others filelists aswell. Would appreciate a reply since i've been looking around for ages now..
[21:48] <ashkore> yes
[21:48] <TerribleTickler> how do I find the source tree in ubuntu?
[21:49] <kazil> theres a apache.conf file. what does it say?
[21:49] <alex__> can somebody help me I need to build banshee using checkinstall but i don't know how to pass the build optionis i need banshee built with. does anybody know how i would do this
[21:49] <bruenig> TerribleTickler, what do you mean source tree
[21:49] <XLV> whats the command to view cpu speed when you run a laptop, you know, to see its current state, if its throttling or runs at lower clock? cat /proc/acpi/cpu something?
[21:49] <ashkore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47035/
[21:49] <bruenig> alex__, ./configure --options
[21:49] <ashkore> thats my alias.conf file
[21:49] <ubuntu> Uh, dead newbie here who needs basic help about installation... Anyone patient who won't laugh? :P
[21:49] <pike_> ubuntu: shoot im sure someong can help
[21:49] <kaneelbroodje> anyone? :)
[21:49] <ashkore> ubuntu: yes
[21:49] <pike_> Defyence: ^
[21:49] <bruenig> alex__, to see the options do ./configure --help
[21:49] <TerribleTickler> well a friend of mine told me to look at source tree to find what chipset for atheros i have
[21:49] <cizarr> where could i find a good image burner for ubuntu?
[21:49] <alex__> but im using checkinstall to create a deb
[21:49] <Defyence> Heh, sorry, just found out how to change that.
[21:49] <bruenig> cizarr, cdrecord or wodim
[21:50] <xorl_> What's the gui app that manages ssh-keys in gnome?
[21:50] <cizarr> thanks bruenig
[21:50] <ashkore> Defyence: yes ill help you - to an extent
[21:50] <steveire> Slart: Actually "^class[^;]*$" works
[21:50] <bruenig> alex__, so
[21:50] <TerribleTickler> well a friend of mine told me to look at source tree to find what chipset for atheros i have
[21:50] <ashkore> by extent i mean - as far as i know
[21:50] <Defyence> OK, anyone and everyone who can help, when installing Ubuntu onto my computer, I seemed to have messed up. Vague, innit? Anyway...
[21:50] <Roland> can anyone help me with changing the bootscreen?
[21:50] <alex__> nvm
[21:50] <alex__> i see
[21:50] <bruenig> TerribleTickler, he must mean the tree of modules in /lib/modules but even that won't tell you what chipset necessarily
[21:51] <TerribleTickler> oh
[21:51] <aladdinsane> kaneelbroodje: im using dc++ which i think works pretty good, it doesnt have those 2 features you are looking for though, at least not the second one
[21:51] <Defyence> Now, it didn't seem to go through with the whole process, and when I reboot my computer and change set-up to boot in its original configuration, which should load Windows, it just goes to a blank screen.
[21:51] <Slart> steveire: yes..but I kind of think that the first one was a bit clearer.. but with regexps clear isn't really what you're after =)
[21:51] <TerribleTickler> i have a acer aspire 5610z
[21:51] <TerribleTickler>  i have a acer aspire 5610z
[21:52] <TerribleTickler> it did not tell me what kind of chipset I have
[21:52] <ashkore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47036/
[21:52] <ashkore> thats my apache.conf file in /etc/phpmyadmin
[21:52] <Defyence> And now that I rebooted on my Ubuntu CD once more, all of the music and files which I had on my D-drive before (just storage, I split it from the C for entertainment only) is gone, where before I was listening to my music and looking through old foldars.
[21:52] <Defyence> folders*
[21:52] <dmckee> genii: drive still there and working great (in vista). I checked the windows permssions (because with vista it encryps the drive) and set it to Everyone, with all permissions... maybe I have to turn off the encryption somehow :-\
[21:53] <TerribleTickler> brb
[21:53] <genii> dmckee: Ah, thats likely it, that it's encrypted
[21:53] <genii> dmckee: Truecrypt?
[21:53] <ashkore> Defyence: are you using the live cd?
[21:54] <ashkore> kazil, found anything yet?
[21:54] <Defyence> I believe that's what it's called. Downloaded the iso and burned it to the CD I'm booting from.
[21:54] <dmckee> genii: thank you, I think I will try that approach. Are you usually in here (i can check back with you in a little bit)?
[21:54] <kazil> askore not really
[21:54] <shreever> how can I install ruby 1.8.6 in feisty (without compiling from the tarball) ?
[21:54] <shreever> is there a ruby 1.8.6 backport for feisty>?
[21:54] <genii> dmckee: I need to leave this location but back online in about an hour
[21:54] <ashkore> Defyence: so you get the ubuntu desktop and the install icon?
[21:54] <Defyence> ashkore: Sorry, that last message was to you, didn't address it though.
[21:55] <dmckee> genii: oh no... not my encryption. the windows vista encryption (it auto encrypts drives so they they can only be used in that machine, to prevent theft)
[21:55] <ashkore> Defyence: thats ok, im looking anyway
[21:55] <Defyence> Heh
[21:55] <sharyari> hello
[21:55] <wols_> dmckee: wrong. bitlocker is not enabled by default
[21:55] <ashkore> Defyence: do you get the desktop and the install icon when you boot from cd?
[21:55] <wols_> and of course if it is enabled, ntfs-3g can't access it
[21:55] <genii> dmckee: I'm not overly familiar with the builtin method vista uses for it's own drive encryption.
[21:55] <dmckee> genii: but I would assume that the music drive would be encrypted then too... but that one is seen and mounted and working in ubuntu...
[21:56] <sharyari> I'm not getting any sound out of my new ubuntu install. Neither from my SB audigy nor the built-in sound
[21:56] <sharyari> but I'm not getting any errors from any program either
[21:56] <wols_> !sound
[21:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:56] <kazil> ashkore, u didn`t answered (or i didn`t saw) /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf?
[21:56] <lns> Does Gutsy Server (i386) have built-in support for PAE, out of the box?
[21:56] <dmckee> vols_: oh! thanks for the info. maybe I'm incorrect with my assumption then.
[21:56] <kazil> whats in it?
[21:56] <genii> dmckee: I think "access to everyone" option in vista would only apply after it's booted to that OS
[21:56] <ashkore> kazil: yes its there and i pasted it at this link, you must have missed it
[21:56] <ashkore> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47036/
[21:56] <dmckee> genii: Vols_ said it wouldn't be encrypted... so now what ? lol
[21:56] <Defyence> ashkore: Yes, I do.
[21:57] <dmckee> genii: makes sense...
[21:57] <ashkore> how much RAM do you have on your system?
[21:57] <jonathan_w> can anyone help me get sound recorder to record  a skype conversation
[21:57] <genii> dmckee: Like i said I need to leave work but will be back online in about 1 hour from home
[21:57] <dmckee> genii: ok thank you.
[21:57] <kazil> ashkore: thats for alias.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[21:57] <genii> later all
[21:57] <kazil> u need the same in /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf
[21:58] <jonathan_w> can anyone help me get sound recorder to record  a skype conversation
[21:58] <Defyence> ashkore: Also I think it's worth mentioning that when I prioritize the boot to load whatever you'd call it first, sorry I'm bad with words, I guess off the hard drive, if it can't find an OS to boot off the CD; the screen, however, just goes black instead of going straight to its second option, the CD, which works if it is made the default one. It makes me think I corrupted something.
[21:58] <ashkore> this link is the pasted /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47036/
[21:58] <hardeep> hello all
[21:58] <syndr0> lunks: private msg
[21:58] <hardeep> what is the default root password after a fresh install of version 7.10
[21:58] <kazil> ashkore: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.conf
[21:58] <xorl_> any of you have ssh keys setup under ubuntu?
[21:58] <LjL> !root > hardeep    (hardeep, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:59] <yamo> hardeep: your password
[21:59] <kazil> ashkore: u need it there too
[21:59] <ashkore> yes i have
[21:59] <LjL> yamo: no
[21:59] <yamo> ?
[21:59] <hardeep> hmm
[21:59] <LjL> yamo: there is no default root password.
[21:59] <kazil> in both places? then i don`t what could be...
[22:00] <yamo> I know but the sudo ask the pass of the installer user
[22:00] <hardeep> so su - root and hitting enter should work?
[22:00] <ompaul> !sudo
[22:00] <alejandro> Hello, i changed the tray to look like XP but now i cant minimize applications to tray, how do i fix this?
[22:00] <rangerguy39> when i start ubuntu to install it, the progress screen comes up, and then a blank, orange screen comes. why does it do that?
[22:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[22:00] <Highlife> Anyone here use ogmrip?
[22:00] <LjL> yamo: so? that's not the root password, just the user's password.
[22:00] <yamo> ok
[22:00] <willskills> anyone have a suggestion for a geo traceroute program?
[22:00] <ashkore> kazil: check this:  this is the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.conf  file ----- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47041/
[22:01] <sharyari> ok, now that I've read that troubleshooting thing, anyone know why my sound isn't working? Everything looks fine, just no sound :)
[22:01] <hardeep> ok, so no route user just the sudo to do all root commands
[22:01] <rangerguy39> when i start ubuntu to install it, the progress screen comes up, and then a blank, orange screen comes. why does it do that?
[22:01] <rangerguy39> anyone help?
[22:01] <ashkore> kazil: and this is the /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf file --------- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47036/
[22:01] <ashkore> Defyence: sorry about the delay - doing 2 thinkgs at the same time
[22:01] <Randomist> Will the GNOME Appearance panel work for XFCE?  XFCE's Display panel will let your change themes, but doesn't give you the option of changing window colors.
[22:02] <LjL> willskills: i don't think there is any in the repositories
[22:02] <Defyence> ashkore: No worries, still trying to figure out how to find out how much memory I have open on this thing anyway. :P
[22:02] <simmerz> i've installed gutsy, but I get freezes and screen flickering when using desktop effects. is that known about?
[22:02] <Defyence> I thought it said 18 gig when it offered to install....
[22:03] <kazil> ashkore: it seems ok everything...
[22:03] <ashkore> Defyence: so, when you set up the boot priorites in the BIOS to look for CD-ROM Booter first and then Hardrive it the CD-ROM Booter fails you just get a blank screen
[22:03] <SilverWolf> hitane, what panel is it at the bottom in this screenshot? http://dagus.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/2007-11-28-182232_1400x1050_scrot.png :)
[22:03] <SilverWolf> s/hitane/hi
[22:03] <SilverWolf> :p
[22:03] <dmckee> anyone know why my drives are not being shown in linux? fdisk -l only shows my boot drive, but other drives are mounted and working.... except one of them lol
[22:03] <ashkore> and you won't have 18Gig of Memory i wouldn't have thought
[22:03] <ashkore> that might be your hard drive
[22:04] <Defyence> ashkore: Yeah, that's why I kinda raised an eyebrow and assumed I read the wrong thing.
[22:04] <ashkore> so, what os are you in now?
[22:04] <Defyence> The CD-ROM boot never fails, since it has the Ubuntu CD in. What does is the regular boot when set back to its normal config.
[22:04] <Defyence> Ubuntu.
[22:04] <Defyence> It's not installed on my machine, though; I'm running it off the CD. It's that, or nothing.
[22:05] <ashkore> are you on the pc that is concerned
[22:05] <amitprakash> hi.. my ubuntu install runs very fine except the volu,e to HDA is pretty low than that on a win installation.. i am on a inspiron 15000. any ideas?
[22:05] <dmckee> vols_: know why my drives are not being shown in linux? fdisk -l only shows my boot drive, but other drives are mounted and working.
[22:05] <neztiti> guys does HP C3000 VISUALIZE WORKSTATIONS WORK WITH LINUX
[22:05] <Defyence> Yes
[22:05] <TerribleTickler> ok my old madwifi modules are 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:05] <ashkore> Defyence: sorry, i sometimes forget to address messages.
[22:05] <milardovich> i have an off topic question, please respond me
[22:05] <milardovich> Dreams drawn <-- is good?
[22:05] <ashkore> Defyence: you need to get your memory amount
[22:05] <TerribleTickler> that was what ubuntu installed by default
[22:05] <Defyence> ashkore: No worries, you're helping me. Why can I complain?
[22:05] <TerribleTickler> when I installed ubuntu
[22:06] <Defyence> ashkore: Trying to find out where to see it...
[22:06] <humbolto> does gutsy suck as a Xen dom0?
[22:06] <steve_b> hey - a quick question - how do I see all of the mountable partitions on hard disks on my computer?  I seem to have lost a partition somewhere...
[22:06] <Defyence> ashkore: I'm looking through "Hardware Information"
[22:06] <pike_> steve_b: sudo fdisk -l may help
[22:06] <ashkore> yes ive just looked through that,  cant see anthing tho
[22:06] <pike_> steve_b: mount will tell you current mounted
[22:06] <neztiti> guys does HP C3000 VISUALIZE WORKSTATIONS WORK WITH LINUX
[22:07] <steve_b> pike_ thats exactly what I was looking for!  Thanks a lot
[22:07] <amitprakash> does anyone know how to increase volume on intel hda??
[22:07] <pike_> neztiti: they may.. boot the livecd and see is best way to know
[22:07] <LjL> !caps | neztiti
[22:07] <ubotu> neztiti: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[22:07] <sdrowkcab> can a server CPU be used in a desktop PC? eg intel Xeon
[22:07] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[22:07] <neztiti> ubOTU: sorry man
[22:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry man - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:08] <pike_> sdrowkcab: yes
[22:08] <malco13> Why when I do a "ps -ef | grep smb" does it not come back with anything
[22:08] <LjL> neztiti: man, indeed
[22:08] <sdrowkcab> then why are they called server cpu?
[22:08] <pike_> sdrowkcab: seems like a waste of an expensive proc though
[22:08] <malco13> bearing in mind that I have just started samba "/etc/init.d/samba start" and it says its done it ok
[22:08] <sdrowkcab> is this good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117129
[22:08] <Defyence> Anybody know how to view how much RAM I have on my system?
[22:08] <ashkore> Defyence: i have it
[22:08] <kazil> ashkore: sorry but i can`t find the error
[22:08] <LjL> Defyence: free
[22:08] <Lunks> neztiti: please avoid talking to the bot, he is not very friendly with everyone
[22:08] <pike_> Defyence: cat /proc/meminfo   or free command
[22:09] <ashkore> System->Administration->System Monitor
[22:09] <TheNo1Yeti> free -(k|m|g) respectively
[22:09] <ashkore> kazil: thats ok
[22:09] <Defyence> Thanks y'all
[22:09] <ashkore> kazil: i think ill just copy /usr/share/phpmyadmin to /var/www
[22:09] <ashkore> that should work
[22:09] <kazil> should
[22:09] <ashkore> Defyence: got it yet
[22:10] <wazeem> hello
[22:10] <kazil> well it`s kinda late i need my beauty sleep :D
[22:10] <ashkore> Defyence: its on first tab of System->Administration->System Monitor
[22:10] <Defyence> ashkore: It says Memory 2 gig
[22:10] <wazeem> hello, is this an ok place to ask help regarding ubuntu?
[22:10] <ashkore> that should be fine for running install and live cd with no probs
[22:10] <Defyence> Duo processors though
[22:10] <ashkore> x64?
[22:11] <Defyence> ashkore: I'm asking what happened to all of my files
[22:11] <ashkore> kazil: bye then
[22:11] <ompaul> wazeem, ask your question ---- of the channel
[22:11] <kazil> i`ll try to check in tommorrow to see if u suceeded anything
[22:11] <ashkore> Defyence: ok
[22:11] <jonathan_w> can anyone help me get sound recorder to record  a skype conversation
[22:11] <ashkore> Defyence: did you partition correctly?
[22:12] <Defyence> ashkore: Thanks for all your help, I know this is tedious, but I'm confused.
[22:12] <Defyence> I doubt it. I think that's my problem.
[22:12] <wazeem> I just installed ubuntu and took my first step outside of windows so im a total newb
[22:12] <Defyence> I think there was a mistake when I tried to.
[22:12] <kazil> ashkore: if u need to start all over again this is a good tut http://services.tucows.com/developers/2007/10/24/installing-apache-2-php-5-and-mysql-5-on-ubuntu-710-aka-gutsy-gibbon/
[22:12] <Defyence> wazeem: That makes two of us. :)
[22:12] <wazeem> defyence thats cool
[22:12] <ompaul> wazeem, then you need some bookmarks:   wiki.ubuntu.com help.ubuntu.com/community for a start
[22:12] <wazeem> but im having problems connecting to the net
[22:13] <Seivan|> Does anyone know how to change the resolution of the VNCserver?
[22:13] <ashkore> hmm... when you get to the blank screen if you dont use the cd does a message saying "Operating System Not Found"
[22:13] <wazeem> im on windows xp now (had to load it up for help)
[22:13] <ompaul> wazeem, how are you trying to connect
[22:13] <kazil> good night channel :)
[22:13] <wazeem> wireless network
[22:13] <ashkore> kazil: good night!
[22:13] <Defyence> ashkore: Nope, it just shows a blank screen with one white line. I can't type anything, either.
[22:13] <Slart> Seivan|: you can do it when you start the server by adding the -geometry switch
[22:13] <wazeem> ubuntu picks up my network but does nothing after i enter the passwrds
[22:13] <ashkore> well.. normally, if you delete all your operating systems then that message comes up
[22:13] <AgentHeX> anyone know what package to grab to get GStreamer to play mp3s?
[22:13] <Slart> !mp3
[22:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:13] <ashkore> so you may not have deleted anything
[22:13] <ompaul> wazeem, you just got a message from the channel bot have a look around that stuff
[22:14] <Seivan|> Slart: how?
[22:14] <catto> wazem: which version of ubuntu do you use and which network-kard?
[22:14] <Slart> Seivan|: hmm.. how do you start your vnc-server?
[22:14] <sync> Question, I have an external harddrive that I formatted on a mac running the tiger operating system, but upgraded the mac to leopard.  The problem is I used the supplied software to put a password on the drive.  The software is unusable in leopard, so now I'm stuck with a harddrive that I cannot access.  Is there anyway I could plug it into my ubuntu machine and manage to get around/disable the need for a password?
[22:14] <ozzloy> how do i fix "ImportError: No module named RandomArray" on ubuntu?
[22:14] <Defyence> ashkore: That's why I was saying earlier I figured I didn't, because it would show that instead of reading no OS available and going to its second option in the boot order, the CD.
[22:14] <Seivan|> Slart: I have it in crontab /usr/bin/tightvncserver :1 should I add -geometry 800x600
[22:14] <wazeem> well im using a belkin wireless adapter and the ubuntu im using is the one i downloaded just yesterday
[22:14] <ompaul> wazeem, I will also point you at madwifi
[22:15] <Defyence> That's why I thought it significant that it would boot off the CD only if that was first in line.
[22:15] <Shadow147> what can I use to demux an MKV file
[22:15] <ashkore> Did you start installing ubuntu at one point?
[22:15] <Defyence> Yes.
[22:15] <wazeem> madwifi ill look it up thanks
[22:15] <Defyence> Right before I went to bio (just got back from class).
[22:15] <ashkore> did it succeed?
[22:15] <masteroc> hey guys, i just switched to ubuntu from windows, and im having problems accessing my dvds, i installed vlc and alll the codecs and stuff, but i put in a dvd movie, and ubuntu doesnt even see it
[22:15] <Defyence> I don't think so, but I had to book it out the door.
[22:15] <ompaul> wazeem, a better idea is to plug a wire into the belkin and then connect to the internet and get online and you can try stuff while you are doing the mad stuff
[22:15] <Slart> Seivan|: yes.. tightvncserver :1 -geometry 800x600
[22:15] <Shadow147> I have already found a way to demux ogms and convet ogg to wav
[22:16] <Defyence> Actually not even "I don't think so", just no, it didn't.
[22:16] <Slart> you can probably get a list of all the settings by running tightvncserver --help
[22:16] <ashkore> so you started installing it but it didnt finish?
[22:16] <Defyence> I'm trying to have both OSes on my computer until I fully transition to Linux.
[22:16] <Shadow147> !demux
[22:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:16] <Defyence> Yes. That's the case.
[22:16] <alejandro> Hello, i changed the tray to look like XP but now i cant minimize applications to tray, how do i fix this?
[22:16] <wazeem> ompaul I cannot connect a wire as my PC is too far from the phone connection. One of the reasons im forced to use wireless
[22:16] <jonathan_w> can anyone help me get sound recorder to record  a skype conversation.
[22:16] <jonathan_w> can anyone help me get sound recorder to record  a skype conversation???
[22:16] <jonathan_w> sorry
[22:17] <sync> Question, I have an external harddrive that I formatted on a mac running the tiger operating system, but upgraded the mac to leopard.  The problem is I used the supplied software to put a password on the drive.  The software is unusable in leopard, so now I'm stuck with a harddrive that I cannot access.  Is there anyway I could plug it into my ubuntu machine and manage to get around/disable the need for a password?
[22:17] <masteroc> is there a special way to play dvd movies in ubuntu?
[22:17] <Shadow147> how do I demux a mkv file so I can put the files into another container
[22:17] <Slart> jonathan_w: aren't there plugins to skype that does that?
[22:17] <McMonarch> isn't there a player in Ubuntu
[22:17] <ashkore> you need to fully install ubuntu and then it should give you options about booting
[22:17] <ompaul> wazeem, that is why we use extension leads in the short term - it is the easiest way forward :)
[22:17] <Slart> !dvd  | masteroc
[22:17] <ubotu> masteroc: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:17] <ashkore> ill step through it with you if you like
[22:17] <Defyence> ashkore: Aight then, thank you :)
[22:17] <AgentHeX> anyone else had Rhythmbox crash when maximizing the window during playback?
[22:17] <Defyence> Should I go manual then or?
[22:18] <ashkore> manual?
[22:18] <Defyence> Never mind
[22:18] <ozzloy> how do i fix "ImportError: No module named RandomArray" in python on ubuntu?
[22:18] <c0Ld> I've got a friend here with an 8800GTS -- I got the driver to install okay, and it boots without the black screen of death, but he's getting a max screen resolution of 800x600 on a 1400x900 widescreen monitor...does anyone know how I can fix this?
[22:18] <ashkore> Double Click Install on the desktop
[22:18] <Defyence> ashkore: It's kind of picking up where it left off I think. It's asking how much percentage I want of partitioned space, but it doesn't tell me where it's putting it.
[22:18] <bruenig> ozzloy, get the RandomArray module installed
[22:18] <Defyence> I went through the first install steps.
[22:18] <xImortal> @@
[22:19] <Defyence> Should I just put it all on my SCSI disk?
[22:19] <ozzloy> bruenig: how?  apt-cache search python|grep -i random shows nothing
[22:19] <ashkore> how many disks do you have
[22:19] <ashkore> as in hard drives
[22:19] <Shadow147> c0Ld your friend needs to tell ubuntu to set the resolution by his monitor
[22:19] <Defyence> Should be 2
[22:19] <ashkore> can you differentiate between them?
[22:19] <bruenig> !find numpy
[22:19] <ubotu> Found: python-numpy, python-numpy-dbg, python-numpy-dev, python-numpy-doc, python-numpy-ext
[22:20] <bruenig> !info python-numpy
[22:20] <ubotu> python-numpy: Numerical Python adds a fast array facility to the Python language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.3-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2046 kB, installed size 9328 kB
[22:20] <ashkore> like by sizes
[22:20] <bruenig> crazy google, always knows the answer
[22:20] <Shadow147> c0Ld it's there in screens and graphics under adimerstration
[22:20] <Defyence> In this, it just offers one with partition sizes
[22:20] <alejandro> Hello, i changed the tray to look like XP but now i cant minimize applications to tray, how do i fix this?
[22:20] <ashkore> actually, what step are you on?
[22:20] <ashkore> bottom left of installer window
[22:20] <Defyence> Or I can put it on the most open free space
[22:20] <Defyence> 4/7
[22:20] <ashkore> ok
[22:20] <cocox> does anybody knows how could i uninstall an application from wine ?
[22:20] <ashkore> is there not an option "Guided, Use Entire Disk"?
[22:21] <Defyence> That's what I was asking if I should use, heh
[22:21] <Slart> cocox: just like you do in windows.. find the uninstall exe
[22:21] <Defyence> That would be my SCSI1
[22:21] <ashkore> well, it should let you choose between drives
[22:21] <Defyence> Hmm
[22:21] <xtknight> anyone else having network troubles since last updates?
[22:21] <Shadow147> xtknight I haven't
[22:21] <ashkore> What options do you have?
[22:21] <c0Ld> Shadow147: I've tried changing his monitor to the correct resolution in that, and it works for the login screen, but as soon as he actually logs back on it reverts back to the old 800x600..
[22:22] <cocox> Slart, im trying to uninstall ms office and there is no a uninstall.exe between the files
[22:22] <Defyence> It was SCS1, partition 53% SCSI1, or Manual
[22:22] <ashkore> Go Manual
[22:22] <Defyence> Wow
[22:22] <ashkore> what?
[22:22] <maximander> help, SEGFAULTS. mysqld segfaults on startup, as does nmbd. gdb says both are "not recognized as executable". strace just goes straight to segfault
[22:22] <Shadow147> c0Ld well did tell ubuntu to work the correct version of his monitor
[22:22] <Slart> cocox: hmm.. try running the installation again.. perhaps there is an uninstall option there
[22:22] <Defyence> The funny thing is I get everything right the first time, but then I doubt myself :P That's what I thought I should do before he
[22:22] <ashkore> hehe - i just understand what you sed earlier
[22:23] <ashkore> what is the screen like now?
[22:23] <McMonarch> Anyone know a good way to speed up XP in VMWare Server besides changing the visual effects and giving it more RAM?
[22:23] <Defyence> Offering options to make partition tables
[22:23] <ashkore> do you understand it?
[22:23] <McMonarch> no
[22:23] <Defyence> Not really
[22:23] <Shadow147> c0Ld also is you are using the non-restricted drivers that might be the main problem
[22:23] <cocox> Slart , yeah i tried it but it shows me an error instead of a window with installation options =(
[22:24] <Shadow147> if*
[22:24] <ashkore> is it listing 2 disks?
[22:24] <maximander> anyone?
[22:24] <Defyence> It lists 4 things
[22:24] <syndr0> hould i unmount my partition before i reformat, or can i just reformat and itll unmount itself?
[22:24] <Slart> cocox: hmm.. then I don't know, sorry.. perhaps ask the people in #winehq for ideas
[22:24] <ashkore> do they give sizes?
[22:24] <wazeem> ompaul madwifi is for a different wireless card
[22:24] <cocox> Slart, all right thank you
[22:24] <wazeem> how is it related to me, i dont understand.
[22:25] <Defyence> It has /dev/sda, sda1, sda5
[22:25] <Defyence> And free space
[22:25] <Slart> cocox: good luck
[22:25] <ompaul> wazeem, the internals of the card are most likely that kind of card
[22:25] <ashkore> /dev/sda is your primary drive
[22:25] <Defyence> Thought so, it seemed everything else was like a subcategory (indented :P)
[22:25] <ompaul> wazeem, I have had this with several cards do this: lspci and lshw | more
[22:25] <c0Ld> Shadow147: I'm using the 9.* driver installed by Envy =\
[22:25] <ashkore> does it give sizes for the partitions?
[22:26] <Defyence> Yes
[22:26] <wazeem> sorry i didnt quite get what you meant
[22:26] <Shadow147> c0Ld is that your card restriced driver?
[22:26] <ashkore> do you know the size of the disk/partition that windows is installed on?
[22:26] <Defyence> Not at all, but I'm guessing its sda1
[22:27] <Defyence> Since that's the only one with used memory, but it's only 3300 MB
[22:27] <Defyence> And I thought it'd be much bigger than that....
[22:27] <maximander> help, SEGFAULTS in fresh install of 7.10. mysqld segfaults on startup, as does nmbd.
[22:27] <wazeem> what i dont get is that it picks up my network but just doesnt connect (doesnt even give a proper error, is this normal?)
[22:27] <c0Ld> Shadow147: I've got no idea -- the restricted driver just gave me a black screen when I tried to boot and I had to clear it in safe mode -- this one booted just fine and let compiz run despite the messy resolution, though.
[22:27] <ompaul> wazeem, many branded cards contain the same chip sets - there is very little real difference (the joys of packaging and marketing)
[22:28] <ashkore> hmm...
[22:28] <TerribleTickler>    hello
[22:28] <ashkore> what size is /dev/sda
[22:28] <fenderbender> Hi all, can someone please give me a download script (can it be done from adept?) with the current state of your packages?
[22:28] <fenderbender> The bigger the number of packages, the better.
[22:28] <fenderbender> I don't have an internet connection at home, so am looking to download as much as i can while i am at work.
[22:28] <netcrash> Hello , is there any software to manage hardware raid ?
[22:29] <d10b> how do i put a variable in a shell script.  say i want to make find / -name <FILENAME> 2> /dev/null a shell script called FIND.SH.  how do i make FIND.SH filename pass the filename into the script?
[22:29] <d10b> .
[22:29] <ashkore> Defyence: how big is /dev/sda
[22:29] <ashkore> (i mean what size)
[22:29] <Defyence> It doesn't say
[22:29] <ashkore> sda1?
[22:29] <Defyence> 57502 MB
[22:30] <Shadow147> I need to demux a MKV file what package do I need?
[22:30] <thor> d10b I believe $1 $2 etc will work
[22:30] <wazeem> what i dont get is that it picks up my network but just doesnt connect (doesnt even give a proper error, is this normal?)
[22:30] <pike_> wazeem: can be with a driver issue.
[22:30] <ashkore> thats about 57-58GB
[22:30] <ozzloy> http://xrl.us/bcffs cli, http://xrl.us/bcffu the python.  can anyone help?  i have python-numeric installed.  why not work?
[22:30] <ashkore> which i am guessing must be you windows partition
[22:30] <Defyence> Yup.
[22:30] <Defyence> Hmm
[22:31] <Defyence> Free space is the same size about
[22:31] <Defyence> 57.6 GB
[22:31] <masteroc> hey, i tried that dvd thing, but i use vlc instead of totem. The problem is that vlc doesnt see either dvd drive that i have
[22:31] <ashkore> that seems bad
[22:31] <ashkore> actuall
[22:31] <ashkore> y
[22:31] <FrankLakatos> Hey, i have a linksys wireless game adapter that i need to assign a router password to, but linksys only has the set up wizard software for windows. Is there a way to do it without it?
[22:31] <wazeem> Pike what steps can i take to check if the driver is compatible
[22:32] <masteroc> and ubuntu cant even read the dvd disc when i put it in, it says that there is no media to mount
[22:32] <ashkore> how big is sda54
[22:32] <ashkore> *sda5
[22:32] <Defyence> 4.9 GB
[22:32] <pike_> wazeem: what card do you have
[22:32] <Defyence> 0 of which is used
[22:33] <wazeem> usb belkin adapter
[22:33] <ashkore> does it tell you how much is used on each partition?
[22:33] <wazeem> the driver windows uses is something like
[22:33] <wazeem> rt2500
[22:33] <wazeem> im not entirely sure about that though
[22:34] <nikitis> Hey guys, anyone know anything about a new copy protection Sony is using to prevent you from playing DVD's on your Computer in Ubuntu?
[22:34] <ashkore> Defyence: does it give the used space for each partition?
[22:34] <jwwws> I'm having some issues with Compiz Fusion, can anybody help?
[22:34] <pike_> wazeem: have you condsidered using the window driver?
[22:34] <ompaul> wazeem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78250
[22:34] <pike_> !ndiswrapper | wazeem
[22:34] <ubotu> wazeem: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:34] <Defyence> ashkore: 2/3 of them do. Free space has none listed, sda1 has 3.3 GB used, and sda5 has none used.
[22:34] <hardeep> by default it seems like many of the ports are blocked on ubuntu
[22:34] <hardeep> what file must i edit to unblock
[22:34] <cafuego> By default nothing is blcoked.
[22:34] <LoZ1974> hullo all
[22:35] <ashkore> how much stuff do you have installed on XP?
[22:35] <hardeep> i cant seem to telnet or ftp in
[22:35] <pike_> hardeep: sudo iptables -L   should tell you that nothing is being blocked as only rules are accept
[22:35] <portablejim> has anyone tried initng on Gutsy?
[22:35] <cafuego> if you need a service to run, install it.
[22:35] <cafuego> ie: install telnet or an ftp server.
[22:35] <Slart> hardeep: that's because those services are disabled by default..
[22:35] <ashkore> because if sda1 only has 3.3GB that means about 1.5-2.0GB is just windows
[22:35] <cafuego> Though of course you want to run ssh, not telnet.
[22:35] <wazeem> Pike - Im so new to ubuntu and linux i dont know what i should look out for an what not to
[22:35] <wazeem> or how the system works
[22:35] <hardeep> ok, disabled thats probably it
[22:35] <Defyence> On XP? I made my D drive separate from my C, and my C is where I put my windows stuff on.
[22:35] <ompaul> wazeem, read that page and it will tell you just like the links I have given you
[22:36] <hardeep> i enabled the root account, not sure why they think its easier using sudo
[22:36] <Defyence> D has my entertainment, such as games and music.
[22:36] <hardeep> i think its stupid
[22:36] <wazeem> anyway im gonna go into ubuntu and try play around with the ubuntu settings
[22:36] <Defyence> I don't have too much, either.
[22:36] <wazeem> and ompaul
[22:36] <wazeem> thanks for your help too
[22:36] <wazeem> im gonna try some stuff i seen
[22:36] <pike_> wazeem: well ive never used ndiswrapper but see that link ubotu posted to you it should tell you how to go about using the windows driver
[22:36] <Slart> hardeep: disabled or not installed.. even when you install things they are usually disabled until you configurate them.. or they are set to some safe defaults.. such as you can only connect to the machine from the machine itself.. ie it binds to 127.0.0.1
[22:36] <ashkore> is Drive D a partition of Drive C or is it a seperate hard drive
[22:36] <Slart> configurate.. is that even a word.. I need some sleep =)
[22:37] <Defyence> ashkore: Argh, I forgot how I did it; lemme go check, I think someone who was with me might remember....
[22:37] <hardeep> cant even connect to itself
[22:37] <ashkore> well... is there 2 hard drives in your system?
[22:37] <Slart> hardeep: when you login as root *everything* is run as root.. that might not be smart.. using sudo only the stuff you chose is run as root..
[22:37] <ashkore> physical hard drives
[22:37] <Defyence> ashkore: Yes, the D is part of the C drive.
[22:37] <ompaul> hardeep, you have been told how to make things available - you seem to be arguing with no one - strange that
[22:37] <fenderbender> Slart: and whats the worst that could happen running everything as root/
[22:38] <ashkore> can you remember how much you partitioned it by?
[22:38] <masteroc> what does ubuntu designate as my dvd drive?  /dev/hdc??
[22:38] <hardeep> arguing?
[22:38] <abadtooth> Hey everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 with Gnome and was wondering if there is any problems with installing software for KDE, being that I'm using Gnome would there be any conflicts?
[22:38] <Slart> fenderbender: depends on your imagination =)
[22:38] <Flare183> fenderbender:> like totally messing up the root's powers
[22:38] <ompaul> hardeep, suggesting sudo is stupid, well you are entitled your opinion, and I know you are wrong ;-)
[22:38] <pike_> abadtooth: no ubuntu is debian based and as such handles lib dependancies and such seamlessly usually
[22:38] <hardeep> ok, thats fine
[22:39] <maximander> help, SEGFAULTS. mysqld segfaults on startup, as does nmbd. gdb says both are "not recognized as executable". strace just goes straight to segfault
[22:39] <abadtooth> pike_:  okay thanks :D was wanting to install amarok...
[22:39] <ashkore> Defyence: Can you remember how much you partitioned the drive by?
[22:39] <Defyence> ashkore: No, sorry...
[22:39] <ashkore> what is on your drive D:?
[22:39] <pike_> abadtooth: amarok, ktorren, k3b are kde apps alot of ubuntu users have on gnome desktops np
[22:39] <hardeep> im used to using AIX, so its quite diff
[22:39] <Defyence> Entertainment like music and games...
[22:39] <portablejim> fenderbender: a malicious program that runs rm -r /
[22:40] <ashkore> and what is on drive C
[22:40] <Defyence> ashkore: One of them's a fat32 and one's a swap if it helps.
[22:40] <Defyence> Stuff like Windows and Program Files
[22:40] <ashkore> FAT32 is a windows partition
[22:40] <ashkore> swap is linux
[22:40] <ompaul> hardeep, that is as different as sun and aix and vms
[22:40] <Defyence> That's what I thought
[22:41] <ashkore> do you know how much in total your hard drive is?
[22:41] <Defyence> No, how can I check?
[22:41] <ompaul> hardeep, strongly suggest you glance at http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[22:41] <abadtooth> pike_:  thats good, I remember I had a ubuntu 6 something install and had installed the KDE desktop for ubuntu so I could use either Gnome or KDE, but it was very buggy at that time, I wasn't sure if it could happen by installing KDE apps or not, but thanks again, now I can use Amarok WooHoo :P
[22:41] <ashkore> System->Administration->System Monitor
[22:41] <ashkore> the the last tab
[22:42] <ashkore> it will list all your drives, including partitions
[22:42] <propeller> .
[22:42] <hardeep> ok, ill check that page out,
[22:42] <Defyence> It'
[22:42] <Defyence> s blank.
[22:42] <ashkore> whats blank?
[22:42] <ompaul> hardeep, it is like redbooks for ubuntu
[22:42] <Defyence> ...
[22:43] <Defyence> The thing you just told me to go to.
[22:43] <ashkore> the last tab?
[22:43] <Defyence> File Systems.
[22:43]  * jake_ slaps theflyingfool
[22:43] <Defyence> It's a white box.
[22:43] <nicandro> hi, is there a chance to find drivers for "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0766:0001 Jess-Link Products Co., Ltd" ?
[22:43] <ashkore> i think its because youve got 2 instances of the partitioner avaliable
[22:43] <ashkore> *open
[22:43] <Defyence> Oh
[22:43] <Defyence> Close install then?
[22:43] <ashkore> yes for now
[22:43] <ashkore> and the system monitor - then start the system monitor again
[22:44] <Defyence> Still nothing.
[22:44] <ashkore> hmm...?
[22:44] <Defyence> Yay, I solved it.
[22:44] <Defyence> I went to edit preferences show all file systems.
[22:44] <ashkore> hehe
[22:44] <maximander> can anyone help me get MySQL to start?
[22:44] <ashkore> ok
[22:44] <Defyence> Yay colege education! :P
[22:44] <npodges> does anyone remember where you go to remove the desktop icons for removable drives/storage?
[22:45] <jewcifer> YAYYYYY!!!!
[22:45] <ashkore> so can you see your drives?
[22:45] <hardeep> ompaul, yea just took a quick glance,
[22:45] <sumonish> hi all
[22:45] <Defyence> Yup
[22:45] <abadtooth> npodges:  just unmount them..
[22:45] <puplin> npodges: in which wm?
[22:45] <ashkore> can you list them
[22:45] <npodges> gnome
[22:45] <Defyence> Sure, there are 9 devices total
[22:45] <npodges> but there's another way, i remember
[22:46] <Defyence> udev, devpts, devshm, tmpfs, proc, sysfs, tmpfs, varlock, and varrun, all with different directories.
[22:46] <puplin> npodges: i'm using xfce atm so i can't remember
[22:46] <npodges> puplin, ah mkay. thanks anyhow
[22:46] <sumonish> small anoyance i have an Xubuntu and i have the most anoying of problems ever 20mins the screen turns off this is after turning DPMS off killing ACPI APM ACPID um and turning screensaver off its there anyother way to enforce the system to stay active?????
[22:46] <puplin> npodges: i''m pretty sure there's a way
[22:47] <ashkore> hmm... your hard drives arn't listed
[22:47] <ashkore> it might only work on fully installed ubunutu
[22:47] <Defyence> Hmm...
[22:47] <Defyence> Should I try installing it again then?
[22:47] <ashkore> yes
[22:48] <Defyence> Aight then. Manual again?
[22:48] <eBryon> I have a question about Ubuntu 7.10 server if I may
[22:48] <ashkore> yep
[22:48] <TerribleTickler> well i am going to sleep on installing mad wifi and try again some other time when i am not tired
[22:48] <ashkore> then on sda5
[22:48] <Randomist> Can I use GNOME's appearance manager in XFCE?  I can't change window colors or install themes in XFCE's themes settings.
[22:48] <TerribleTickler> love irc
[22:48] <Defyence> Aight.
[22:48] <ashkore> what size is it
[22:48] <puplin> sumonish: lol i did a commandline install of xubuntu so it doesn't have acpi
[22:48]  * genii sips a coffee
[22:48] <Defyence> Just shy of 5 gig
[22:48] <Sisco^Work> how do I change the motd on opensshd?
[22:48] <TerribleTickler> Ubuntu is cool
[22:48] <ashkore> and how much is used?
[22:49] <Defyence> Doesn't say anything
[22:49] <Defyence> Wait, 0
[22:49] <ashkore> so all is free?
[22:49] <Randomist> And if I can what package do I install to get that?
[22:49] <Defyence> Yup
[22:49] <sumonish> ive unistalled ACPI and killed every power managment feature i know of i need the screen to stay active its a monitoring box for work
[22:49] <eBryon> Installed a Promise IDE controller in my existing Ubuntu server and attached a CDROM drive, can't seem to see the CDROM so I'm wondering how I check to see if Ubuntu sees the controller?
[22:49] <maximander> can anyone help me start mySQL?
[22:49] <ashkore> i would say that is enough space to install ubuntu - and its clean so you wont be wiping anything
[22:49] <Defyence> Aight then
[22:50] <ashkore> so if you can, choose to install on sda5
[22:50] <TerribleTickler> hello
[22:50] <ompaul> sumonish, and make sure the screensaver is off
[22:50] <tattoo> ubuntu made me cheat on microsoft
[22:50] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[22:50] <sumonish> done and uninstalled Xscreensaver........
[22:50] <Defyence> No root file system is defined error.
[22:50] <TerribleTickler> how do you all add color to your user names?
[22:50] <Defyence> Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[22:50] <Randomist> The IRC client does that, I think.
[22:50] <sumonish> is there someting within GDM that does powermanagement??
[22:50] <ompaul> Defyence, when setting up the install mark the first ubuntu partition as "bootable = yes"
[22:51] <ompaul> sumonish, no
[22:51] <sumonish> hmmm
[22:51] <cizarr> what command should i write to burn a.iso file?
[22:51] <Defyence> ompaul: Thanks, but where do I check that?
[22:51] <genii> Was the guy with the missing "Big 5-0" ntfs volume able to get help?
[22:52] <danton721> alguem é brazileiro?
[22:52] <ashkore> are there no instructions on the screen at all Defyence
[22:52] <genii> !br
[22:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:52] <Defyence> It says specify a partition as well as a swap
[22:53] <ashkore> which one is swap?
[22:53] <Defyence> The sda5 is a swap
[22:53] <ashkore> hm..
[22:53] <ashkore> i don't think you can use sda5 as swap and root
[22:53] <Defyence> sda1 is a fat32, which confused my father since he says I don't have that on my machine.
[22:54] <genii> sda1 is likely some system recovery partition if it's fat32
[22:54] <Defyence> Hmm, but wouldn't it be smaller than 57 GB if it was?
[22:55] <ashkore> i have another idea
[22:55] <jwwws> back
[22:55] <ashkore> can you go back to the menu where you selected manual
[22:55] <genii> Defyence: Yes, usually something like 4Gb
[22:55] <Defyence> Sure
[22:55] <Defyence> Thanks genii
[22:55] <ashkore> are you back at the menu?
[22:56] <magic_ninja> does ubuntu have good dual 64-bit proc support
[22:56] <magic_ninja> !64
[22:56] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[22:56] <Defyence> Will be in half a second
[22:56] <Defyence> KK, yup
[22:56] <zecarlos> boa noite a todos
[22:56] <ashkore> ok
[22:56] <ashkore> then can you choose an option to shrink by a percentage?
[22:56] <Defyence> It recommends partition #1 sda
[22:56] <zecarlos> recentemente compilei e instalei a versão em desenvolvimento do XFCe
[22:56] <Seivan|> Does anyone know how to make a delayed reboot and then to stop the reboot?
[22:56] <Defyence> Yes
[22:56] <zecarlos> tá legal demais
[22:56] <Slart> magic_ninja: 64 bit works very nicely with ubuntu.. even flash works in the latest ubuntu
[22:56] <ashkore> you say recommends? is there another one?
[22:57] <zecarlos> porem notei um erro ao adicionar ao painel a área de notificação
[22:57] <magic_ninja> Slart: will i still be able to run 32 bit apps
[22:57] <Defyence> It doesn't say that, that's my word.
[22:57] <Slart> magic_ninja: yes
[22:57] <crdlb> magic_ninja: unless you have a good reason to use 64bit, you should use 32bit on a desktop system
[22:57] <zecarlos> aparece que o módulo systray não está carregado. o que fazer?
[22:57] <Defyence> ashkore: It says "Guided - resize SCSI1 (0,0,0(, partition #1 (sda) and used free space"
[22:57] <wpk> crdlb: why so/
[22:57] <Defyence> Then New partition size: 51% (53.5 GB)
[22:57] <Slart> crdlb: any reasons why?
[22:57] <crdlb> wpk: because there are no advantages
[22:58] <ashkore> which means youve got about 100GB hard drive in your pc
[22:58] <crdlb> it has higher performance for high-end calculation, but desktops don't do that
[22:58] <magic_ninja> crdlb: so i would wanna go with an i386 if i get dual 64 bit procs (notice i'm talking dual 64 bit not just 1 64 bit
[22:58] <wpk> crdlb: have you tested that?
[22:58] <crdlb> it's more work for no gain
[22:58] <Defyence> Closer to 120 it sounds like, considering everything added together
[22:58] <Slart> crdlb: but why chose 32-bit? what isn't working on 64-bit now?
[22:58] <cafuego> crdlb: dual 64bit CPUs also both run 32bit apps just fine :-)
[22:58] <ashkore> i would shrink the New partition size down to 15GB
[22:58] <wpk> crdlb: have you tested that?
[22:59] <crdlb> wpk: there are lots of benchmarks
[22:59] <magic_ninja> Slart: 32 bit apps
[22:59] <Defyence> KK
[22:59] <cizarr> hi, how can i check the type of ISO of a given iso file?
[22:59] <Slart> crdlb: even flash works automagically these days.. as I found out recently =)
[22:59] <Defyence> 14.7 GB sound good? Seems appropriate enough...
[22:59] <wpk> crdlb: link?
[22:59] <alzamabar> I'm having more and more problems with file permissions
[23:00] <bigjohnto> can ubuntu support 8bit and 24bit color modes simultaneously?
[23:00] <crdlb> wpk: showing what exactly?
[23:00] <Slart> magic_ninja: 32 bit apps work on 64 bit ubuntu... with 7.04 some stuff weren't available for 64-bit.. like flash and java.. but I think that's changed now
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> Defyence: Be careful with this step. Be sure you know which partition is which!!!
[23:00] <wazeem> hello back after testing and struggling
[23:00] <alzamabar> I thought that as administrator I could do anything, but I find that if I'm not logged in as root, I can't update many files
[23:00] <Defyence> Thanks Odd-rationale. :)
[23:00] <wpk> crdlb: advantages of 32bit over 64bit
[23:00] <cafuego> Slart: There is still no current working java plugin.
[23:00] <magic_ninja> well i'm thinking of building a new system but if i do build a new one i'm getting dual 64 bit procs
[23:00] <Defyence> I love the input everyone gives, it's quite fun, heh.
[23:00] <comicinke1> help: I cannot call any help from programs anymore! if I press F1 in any application, I get the errormessage: an error occured during showing the help: error at executing the command related to this location.... sth. there is no problem with online help, but local help files
[23:00] <ashkore> lol
[23:00] <alzamabar> Can anybody help with security?
[23:01] <Defyence> So commit to a 14% partition of my sda?
[23:01] <Slart> cafuego: hmm.. what I am running then... hang on..
[23:01] <suttin> hey guys, i was just wondering if anyone knows of an app that lets you browse wireless internet connections that are in range, or if there's already a way to do it in ubuntu
[23:01] <ashkore> i suppose
[23:01] <Odd-rationale> Defyence: One time I wanted to make my ubuntu partition to be 10 gb. So I slid the slider to 10 gb. i ended shrinking windows to 10 gb :(
[23:01] <bigjohnto> So anyone have any ideas if Ubuntu can support 24bit color and 8bit color modes simultaneously in one Xdisplay
[23:01] <crdlb> wpk: it's just less tested and newer, and there are no *advantages*
[23:01] <crdlb> to 64bit
[23:01] <ashkore> i think that will keep data but shrink the partition
[23:01] <wpk> crdlb: speed?
[23:01] <crdlb> it's not faster for a desktop
[23:02] <Slart> cafuego: I'm running icedtea on my 64 bit firefox.. don't know how compatible that is.. but it works
[23:02] <crdlb> you're not doing tons of floating-point calculations
[23:02] <cafuego> magic_ninja: With a 64bit OS you get better io bandwidth, so all my servers run 64bit Linux. For desktops though, it hardly matters. 99.9% of the time the system is waiting for user input and that woudl still take equally long on even a 256bit box ;-)
[23:02] <cafuego> Slart: Yeah, I have that installed too. Doesn't work on a CMS system, Tax office site or meeting web-app :-(
[23:02] <ashkore> there is a certain level of risk to this so if you fairly sure that it looks right go ahead
[23:02] <wpk> crdlb: well yes I am, but it doesn't matter
[23:02] <magic_ninja> thats fine because i'm going to be doing alot of intense gaming
[23:03] <crdlb> wpk: if you are, then use 64bit
[23:03] <Odd-rationale> magic_ninja: If you want to use 64 bit, that's fine. Just realize that it may require additional configuration.
[23:03] <crdlb> most people aren't
[23:03] <ashkore> Defyence: made a choice?
[23:03] <magic_ninja> and i'm building a new computer to last me another 7 years
[23:03] <angel> i am on commandline irc via ssh..i am officially a nerd
[23:03] <magic_ninja> i'm currently reading up on the dchroot
[23:03] <cafuego> magic_ninja: Also, the compiler is a lot more optimised for 32bit than it is 64bit, so there are trade-offs.
[23:03] <Slart> cafuego: ah... well.. I can't say I browse to anything java-heavy... might be why I haven't noticed
[23:03] <suttin> hey guys, i was just wondering if anyone knows of an app that lets you browse wireless internet connections that are in range, or if there's already a way to do it in ubuntu
[23:03] <cafuego> Slart: Mebbe 8.04 will fix it. We'll see.
[23:03] <angel> ubuntu has a package that does that
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> suttin: nm-applet. enable wireless roaming
[23:04] <ashkore> Defyence?
[23:04] <angel> there you og
[23:04] <Slart> cafuego: well.. java is getting more and more open so let's hope so
[23:04] <angel> gp*
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> suttin: Should come with default ubuntu installation
[23:04] <suttin> odd: do i just type that into the terminal?
[23:04] <magic_ninja> as long as 32 bit ubuntu will work with dual 64 bit procs then thats all i need, i'll just use that until 64 bit becomes more recognized
[23:05] <cyrano> Hi. This is a non-ubuntu specific issue (but for ubuntu in my case). I installed ubuntu on a flash pen drive and successfully booted it on a couple of machines... Now i found out my own machine doesn't even have an USB option in the BIOS. only cd, floppy, hard drive and network. Is there any way to make the BIOS boot from USB drive without completely changing it? And if not, how do i update...
[23:05] <cyrano> ...or change bios and what are the good alternatives (OpenBios??)
[23:05] <angel> suttin: do you have a wireless card on that box?
[23:05] <cyrano> Thanks!
[23:05] <greenmanspirit> hey, any idea how to get ubuntu to see the wireless card
[23:05] <suttin> yes angel
[23:05] <Odd-rationale> suttin: Do you have the network manager in the notification area?
[23:05] <wpk> crdlb: besides, what cpu-specific optimizations does 32bit ubuntu have?
[23:05] <FrankLakatos> I have this game adapter, that receives wireless signal and coverts them to lan lines, so you can plug it into an xbox, for example. But now, i am trying to hook it up to my linux tower.
[23:05] <FrankLakatos> But the wireless signal is password protected, how can i tell the game adapter a password (the software to normally do it is only for windows)
[23:05] <ashkore> Defyence: are you still there?
[23:06] <Pelo> cyrano,  you could setup grub on your hdd or on a floppy and select the usb drive from it
[23:06] <SpookyET> Is there a way to convert a primary partition to a logical partition with GParted?
[23:06] <greenmanspirit> The card works but ifconfig doesnt list it
[23:06] <suttin> Odd-rationale: i dont nee a notification area
[23:06] <cyrano> pelo: Ok! How?
[23:06] <suttin> see*
[23:06] <bulmer> FrankLakatos-> did you ever find the manual for that device and read how to configure it?
[23:06] <crdlb> wpk: none? they might -mtune to i686 ...
[23:06] <andi5> SpookyET: why would you want that?
[23:07] <wpk> crdlb: it can't use any of the i686 cpu ALU instructions
[23:07] <Odd-rationale> suttin: go to admin -> network, then
[23:07] <bulmer> greenmanspirit-> internal plugin card?
[23:07] <ashkore> Defyence: Are you having problems?
[23:07] <SpookyET> andi5: Because I want one extended partition containing all logical partitions
[23:07] <suttin> odd: ok
[23:08] <bigjohnto> can you have pseudocolor emulation on ubuntu?
[23:08] <SpookyET> But I have one primary that's 37.05GiB giving me problems. I want to convert it to a logical and add it to that extended partition
[23:08] <angel> suttin: go to add and remove apps and search for wireless, you should see different options there. be mindful though, this is linux not MS, you have to do a littl more work to get your drivers to work. ubuntu is great and finding them but not perfect.
[23:08] <Odd-rationale> suttin: Do you see "Wireless connections?
[23:08] <greenmanspirit> bulmer: yeah, its internal
[23:08] <suttin> Odd: yes
[23:08] <suttin> Angel: thank you
[23:08] <andi5> SpookyET: i assume you want the data on the primary to keep alive?
[23:08] <Flare183> suttin:> if you want to search for a wireless connection use sudo dhclient
[23:08] <hectorpal> Does anybody has time for a weird problem with /etc/sudoers?
[23:08] <Pelo> cyrano, on your usb pendrive ubuntu installation there should be a /boot/grub/.... folder,   you need to have grub stage 1 on a bootable device point to that,  the easier way I can think of is make a boot floppy  , and install grub phase one on it,   I guess you could do this with the supergrub cd , you can get from the grub site, but for a direct link, check the links ubotu will give you in a minute,  I think the link is on the last link ubo
[23:08] <Pelo> t will give , somewhre toward the bottom of the page or you can try an google for super grub cd
[23:09] <angel> has anyone successfully installed a good media server on ubuntu?
[23:09] <Odd-rationale> suttin: I forgot to ask, is your wireless working right now?
[23:09] <SpookyET> andi5: Yeah, that's the idea.
[23:09] <Pelo> !grub > cyrano check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[23:09] <bulmer> greenmanspirit-> does lspci show its detected?
[23:09] <angel> suttin: no problem buddy, we are all here to help
[23:09] <bulmer> greenmanspirit-> does dmesg show its also detected?
[23:09] <suttin> yeah, im using it right now Odd, I just wanted to make it so i didnt have to reconfigure it every time i found wireless
[23:09] <Pelo> cyrano,  the ppl in #grub might be able to help you better,   but is is not a very busy channel you'd have to be patient
[23:10] <Bigcheese> ya, so my mic wont work even after spending a good 64 hours straight reading documentation and forum posts
[23:10] <hectorpal> ok: I have read all the manuals and stuff, but this is not working. I WAS working on my fedora. 1st time using Ubuntu (7.10)
[23:10] <ashkore> Defyence: Have you got past the partitioner?
[23:10] <greenmanspirit> bulmer: lspci shows it as the last thing on the list
[23:10] <Bigcheese> It's the only thing left to get working too ;/
[23:10] <Odd-rationale> suttin: select it and then select properties.
[23:10] <bulmer> greenmanspirit-> does dmesg show it's also detected?
[23:10] <suttin> Odd: ok
[23:10] <Pelo> hectorpal,  what is not working exactly , I probably missed the first part
[23:10] <Bigcheese> I get the stupid /dev/dsp is in use even though nothing is using it. esd is off, etc...
[23:10] <greenmanspirit> bulmer: I'm looking
[23:10] <hectorpal> I add a line like that to my sudoers: myuser ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/myprogram
[23:11] <Odd-rationale> suttin: Enble roaming.
[23:11] <hectorpal> but when I do sudo /usr/bin/myprogram it still ask for the password
[23:11] <hectorpal> weird
[23:11] <suttin> Odd: it is
[23:11] <hectorpal> thank you Pelo
[23:11] <bigjohnto> hmmm, guess no ubuntu guru here eh
[23:11] <andi5> SpookyET: i do not know for sure, but unless you have enough unused space left, i doubt this will work with gparted... but feel free to ignore me :)
[23:11] <bulmer> Bigcheese-> try lsof /dev/dsp  if any is really using it
[23:11] <angel> good media server on ubuntu..anyone?
[23:11] <greenmanspirit> bulmer: I don't see it
[23:11] <Pelo> hectorpal, ah,  I don't realy know about permission stuff, sorry
[23:11] <Odd-rationale> suttin: Can I PM you?
[23:11] <benzs_s> how does one add fonts?
[23:11] <suttin> yeah
[23:11] <hectorpal> ok
[23:11] <Flare183> angel:> mtp
[23:11] <MasterShrek> !fonts
[23:11] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[23:11] <Bigcheese> bulmer: says nothing
[23:11] <hectorpal> thank you Pelo
[23:11] <benzs_s> ty!
[23:12] <bulmer> greedo_-> you have to find the driver for it, and load it
[23:12] <angel> Flare183:mtp ok, i'll research thatone
[23:12] <ashkore> Defyence: Do you still need help or not?
[23:12]  * Pelo feels guilty when ppl thank him for not helping them 
[23:12] <hectorpal> any channel where do you think I can get help?
[23:12] <maximander> you could help me
[23:12] <bulmer> Bigcheese-> maybe there is an option to lsof  but i dont know it offhand
[23:12] <MasterShrek> !ask
[23:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:12] <Bigcheese> It's weird because some programs can get a very messed up stream which includes some crazy ass noise and the mic
[23:12] <maximander> help, SEGFAULTS in fresh 7.10 install. mysqld segfaults on startup, as does nmbd.
[23:12] <hectorpal> :-) ok ubotu
[23:12] <Bigcheese> but it all works fine in windows
[23:12] <Pelo> hectorpal,  you could try  ##linux or #debian might have a clue,  or you can also keep asking here periodicaly,
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> I can't send you PM.
[23:13] <alzamabar> How do I set environment variables?
[23:13] <wpk> maximander: check memory
[23:13] <Odd-rationale> suttin: ^
[23:13] <wpk> maximander: memcheck?
[23:13] <Pelo> hectorpal, the forum might also ahve some answers in it,  I mean search not post , www.ubuntuforums.org
[23:13] <maximander> memcheck went fine
[23:13] <Flare183> Do memchecks take long?
[23:13] <maximander> windows also ran fine
[23:13] <Pelo> Odd-rationale, you need to be a registered user to sent pm on this network
[23:14] <hectorpal> Pelo, good idea... I'll try in debian. Maybe I'll be back. I have search about it, but is not easy as is difficult to capture the problem using "keywords" at google :-S
[23:14] <wpk> maximander: anything wrong in dmesg?
[23:14] <maximander> no.
[23:14] <bulmer> Bigcheese-> i believe sound in ubuntu seems to be the most problematic and i see it here people complain about it
[23:14] <wpk> maximander: try memcheck on running system
[23:14] <Odd-rationale> Pelo: OK
[23:14] <Flare183> nvm
[23:14] <maximander> and gdb says that mysqld and nmbd aren't executables
[23:14] <angel> Flare183:mtp is a protocol not a server
[23:14] <Pelo> hectorpal, use the command you used as a search string
[23:14] <cyrano> Pelo: I didn't find any tutorial on the grup webpage
[23:14] <maximander> but they are certainly binary
[23:14] <Bigcheese> I actually see every unix based os have problems with it :P (freeBSD, Linux, etc...)
[23:14] <cyrano> can anyone here give me instructions on how to add a USB boot option to grup?
[23:14] <Flare183> !mtp
[23:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <cyrano> sorry, grub!!
[23:15] <kelsin> cyrano: booting from the usb is a bios option afaik
[23:15] <Pelo> cyrano, not a tutorial,  you want the link to the super grub cd ,  you boot from that and it lets you install grub anywhere and it also lets you specify where stage 1 and stage 2 go
[23:15] <Odd-rationale> suttin: You there? Try to /join #odd-rationale
[23:15] <Pelo> kelsin,  we are looking for a workarund, not all mobo can boot from usb
[23:16] <wpk> maximander: hm...
[23:16] <kelsin> Pelo: ahhh, ok :) good luck
[23:16] <wpk> maximander: which mysqld? /etc/init.d/mysqld ?
[23:16] <wpk> maximander: it's a shell script
[23:16] <specscript> when running ubuntu off of a CD, is it normal for it to be slow?
[23:16] <Pelo> kelsin,  no luck needed, he needs to boot from a floppy whit grub installed on it
[23:16] <Bigcheese> specscript: for program startup yes
[23:16] <specscript> okay, thanks
[23:16] <Bigcheese> or any file access
[23:16] <MarcoRM65> ciao !!
[23:16] <SpookyET> Is there a better file system than ext3?
[23:16] <Slart> specscript: yes.. it uses memory for a virtual root drive.. so less memory for cache etc
[23:17] <Bigcheese> but actual non io speed should be the same
[23:17] <maximander> wpk: no, /usr/sbin/mysqld
[23:17] <kelsin> Pelo: and from there grub has the capability to load from a usb drive?
[23:17] <Pelo> SpookyET,  ext3 is the current fav in linux
[23:17] <angel> Flare183: gnump3d is good and easy but hard to customize. i want to set up playlists and it does not seem to do it nicely
[23:17] <wpk> maximander: what FS?
[23:17] <SpookyET> Pelo: reiser4?
[23:17] <wpk> maximander: what does file /usr/sbin/mysqld
[23:17] <alzamabar> how do I add an environment variable to my profile?
[23:17] <Cesarius> HI ALL !  HERE IS A DISCUSSION AND CHAT ENVIRONMENT FOR UBUNTU USERS !!!  http://www.toramantourism.com/livechat.htm
[23:17] <maximander> xfs
[23:17] <cyrano> Pelo: I don't really understand now. Do i need to install Grub on my flash drive? Problem is I can't access my flash drive before my operating system is running!
[23:17] <Pelo> kelsin,  pretty much,  the menu will point to the kernel on the usb partiton
[23:17] <webmaren> anybody know how i can get bittorrent to go faster
[23:17] <Slart> SpookyET: depends on what you're going to do with it... many small files.. large files.. lots of changes etc.. google for ext3, reiserfs, xfs.. there's probably more out there
[23:17] <Flare183> angel:> well that beats me
[23:17] <SpookyET> webmaren: ask the senator for more tubes
[23:17] <kelsin> Pelo: didn't know the usb subsystem was even available then :) have to try that later, thanks
[23:17] <hectorpal> :-) Repeating my question: I add a line like that to my sudoers: myuser ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/myprogram, but when I do sudo /usr/bin/myprogram it still ask for the password
[23:17] <EnderThethird> Can someone point me in the right direction to uninstall a program installed via source (VMWare Server in particular)
[23:18] <MarcoRM65> my first ubuntu login under VMware section..!!
[23:18] <Pelo> cyrano,  no,  you want to install grub on a boot floppy,  and make the boot floppy grub find the /boot/grub folder on your usb flash drive
[23:18] <webmaren> trying to get kubuntu 8.04 herd 1 but it says ETA: 19days
[23:18] <Flare183> !root | hectorpal
[23:18] <ubotu> hectorpal: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:18] <genii> Anything simple (even CLI) to make some still jpg shots into a short footage?
[23:18] <Flare183> !sudo | hectorpal
[23:18] <ubotu> hectorpal: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[23:18] <maximander> wpk: the file /usr/sbin/mysqld is the binary file which is segfaulting. gdb says it is not an executable
[23:18] <Flare183> that might help
[23:18] <cyrano> Pelo: I don't have a floppy drive though... Only a floppy option in BIOS :P
[23:19] <Pelo> cyrano,  join me in #grub
[23:19] <kelsin> hectorpal: that looks good to me, did you use visudo to edit to make sure there were no errors in the file?
[23:19] <maximander> wpk: strace goes straight to segfault
[23:19] <hectorpal> ubotu, reading your answer
[23:19] <Slart> genii: "short footage"?? you mean a movie?
[23:19] <Khisanth> webmaren: faster connection and/or more peers :)
[23:19] <SpookyET> zfs for linux?
[23:19] <MikeH> anyone know of a pdf to html utility?
[23:19] <hectorpal> jejee
[23:19] <genii> Slart: animated gif even
[23:19] <wpk> MikeH: pdf2html
[23:19] <MikeH> I thought there was something called pdf2html
[23:19] <AngryElf> say I buy a blu-ray DVD drive -- is mplayer gonna be able to play my blu ray discs?
[23:19] <MikeH> wpk, can't find it in gutry repo's though?
[23:19] <hectorpal> I was fooled by the bot :-(
[23:20] <Slart> genii: look at imagemagick... it does almost anything and it's console based
[23:20] <Khisanth> MikeH: pdftohtml
[23:20] <Sasha_> Sasha Kra
[23:20] <genii> Slart: Thanks
[23:20] <Bigcheese> AHA! It's actually /dev/snd/* files that are being used, and I guess that effects /dev/dsp
[23:20] <Sasha_> Sasha Kran
[23:20] <Sasha_> f03ndnfs
[23:20] <Sasha_> found the file
[23:20] <Sasha_> no quit
[23:21] <ashkore> Anyone in this channel, if Defyence comes back tell him to type an address message to me as i wont be monitoring the channel for a while
[23:21] <Flare183> !enter | Sasha_
[23:21] <ubotu> Sasha_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[23:21] <Sasha_> hkd/kdne/jpen.jdk
[23:21] <Sasha_> ok
[23:21] <hectorpal> Kelsin: yes I used visudo to edit sudoers
[23:21] <Sasha_> no. i
[23:21] <Sasha_> want
[23:21] <Sasha_> more
[23:21] <EnderTheThird> anyone know a howto for removing programs installed via source/CLI?
[23:21] <Sasha_> yes
[23:21] <Sasha_> yes
[23:21] <Sasha_> do not quit
[23:21] <Sasha_> idjf
[23:21] <klankymen> !paste
[23:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:22] <hectorpal> kelsin: yes I used visudo to edit sudoers (again in case is Case sensite with nicknames)
[23:22] <readme> hi
[23:22] <genii> EnderTheThird: usually in same dir you did "make install" try "make uninstall" or "make clean" or "make dist-clean"
[23:22] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[23:22] <readme> Can someone help me with gutsy? In gnome I'm trying to find a way to set the default wireless connection
[23:22] <EnderTheThird> genii: thanks a ton.  guess I'll need to re-download source for VMWare Server then.  VirtualBox does everything I need it to.
[23:22] <metanil> i can't find glibc on my system... anyone know how to get it.
[23:22] <Flare183> !wireless
[23:22] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:23] <readme> It always goes to the one that isn't mine
[23:23] <readme> oh ok
[23:23] <MikeH> is there anything that works a little better than pdftohtml? it's screwed up formatting pretty badly.
[23:23] <sumonish> !screansaver
[23:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screansaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:23] <Flare183> !screensaver
[23:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:23] <Flare183> What?
[23:24] <ashkore> !xscreensaver
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <sumonish> !xscreen
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <ashkore> !screen-saver
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screen-saver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <Flare183> !info xscreensaver
[23:24] <tifine> yu
[23:24] <ubotu> xscreensaver: Automatic screensaver for X. In component main, is optional. Version 4.24-5ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 277 kB, installed size 2216 kB
[23:24] <ashkore> !screen_save
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screen_save - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <ashkore> !screen_saver
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screen_saver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <tifine> i want to run  .iso file  ?
[23:24] <ashkore> !screen-saver
[23:24] <bruenig> ashkore, calm down
[23:24] <JonathanD> O.o
[23:24] <ashkore> lol
[23:24] <sumonish> !xscreensaver
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xscreensaver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <bruenig> !fishing | ashkore sumonish
[23:24] <ubotu> ashkore sumonish: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[23:24] <sumonish> bitc@@@@@@
[23:25] <Flare183> !language
[23:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:25] <Sasha_> fuck
[23:25] <Flare183> !language
[23:25] <tomaw> Guys, please do not abuse the bot.
[23:25] <Sasha_> jy
[23:25] <tifine> i want to run  .iso file  on ubuntu?i downloaded a movie but it is in .iso format
[23:25] <bruenig> !iso | tifine, an iso is a disk image, you want to mount it?
[23:25] <ubotu> tifine, an iso is a disk image, you want to mount it?: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:25] <Flare183> Thank you
[23:25] <ashkore> that is a normal command
[23:25] <ashkore> ive used it before
[23:25] <sumonish> hey i curtained my lingo
[23:25] <Flare183> !isomount
[23:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isomount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:25] <Flare183> !iso
[23:25] <ashkore> so i DO know it really exists
[23:25] <specscript> when i run ubuntu in safe graphics mode, how can i run the install program?
[23:25] <Bigcheese> ok, wtf
[23:25] <LjL> Flare183, nwo you start?
[23:25] <cizarr> there's a linux program like GoldWave please?
[23:26] <Seivan|> Does anyone how to make a timed reboot, like give it 10 minutes and then reboot, I also wanna be able to stop the reboot
[23:26] <tifine> thxns ubotu
[23:26] <EnderTheThird> Wow do I freaking love ssh.  :-D
[23:26] <Flare183> sorry
[23:26] <bruenig> !info audacity | cizarr
[23:26] <ubotu> cizarr: audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1build1 (gutsy), package size 2321 kB, installed size 6832 kB
[23:26] <gordonjcp> EnderTheThird: ssh is good
[23:26] <sumonish> cizar: k3b (kde based
[23:26] <specscript> when i run ubuntu in safe graphics mode, how can i run the install program?
[23:26] <gordonjcp> EnderTheThird: wait until you've got a PC running all the time, and then you can just ssh to it for your IRC
[23:26] <ashkore> specscript: are you on the live cd?
[23:26] <gordonjcp> EnderTheThird: and mail, too
[23:26] <specscript> ashkore, yes
[23:27] <SpookyET> Does anyone have a link to the optimal partitions and their sizes?
[23:27] <sumonish> (whoops yah audacity)
[23:27] <ashkore> and you started in safe graphics mode?
[23:27] <specscript> yes
[23:27] <bruenig> SpookyET, optimal is relative to your disk size and what you are wanting to do
[23:27] <gordonjcp> EnderTheThird: irssi + screen are the only way to do IRC...
[23:27] <metanil> i can't find glibc on my system... anyone know how to get it.
[23:27] <ashkore> have you got to the desktop yet?
[23:27] <metanil> how to install glib
[23:27] <JonathanD> gordonjcp: but all that will change soon ;)
[23:27] <EnderTheThird> gordonjcp: i'm ssh'ing to try to remove vmware from my home computer while at work.  dyndns.org ftw!
[23:27] <Flare183> metanil:> it's glib
[23:27] <angel> anyone know the diference in normal install through live and oem install?
[23:27] <specscript> ashkore, it always freezes so im doing it through this
[23:27] <metanil> glibc
[23:27] <XLV> Seivan|, shutdown -r +10 .. man shutdown
[23:27] <ashkore> specscript: how much RAM do you have?
[23:27] <lex> I keep getting this error: "It seems that transcode ripping stopped short. The movie has 213870 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation, resp. a problem with this specific DVD." when trying to rip a dvd with dvd::rip. Any ideas?
[23:27] <specscript> ashkore, enough
[23:27] <bruenig> angel, oem will set the computer up such that the first time you boot after install, it will ask for username and things like that
[23:27] <ashkore> !paste | lex
[23:27] <ubotu> lex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[23:27] <Flare183> lex:> it's the dvd
[23:28] <EnderTheThird> gordonjcp:  now i just need to learn a bit more about hosting my mythweb so i can access it remotely and i'll be set.  i haven't quite gotten a handle on ssh tunneling to do so.  i'd prefer not to host it as a web server
[23:28] <HDTV> Is there a renew command in ubuntu...like in windows...ipconfig /renew?
[23:28] <ashkore> specscript: how much?
[23:28] <angel> bruenig| will it let me choose package for instalation?
[23:28] <specscript> 512mb i think
[23:28] <HDTV> for a connection..
[23:28] <specscript> or 1g
[23:28] <Flare183> HDTV:> no just run sudo dhclient
[23:28] <bruenig> angel, no more than the other installation techniques
[23:28] <lex> Flare183: as in the encryption?
[23:28] <ashkore> i think that may be enough
[23:28] <sumonish> !info ifconfig |HDTV
[23:28] <ubotu> hdtv: Package ifconfig does not exist in gutsy
[23:28] <wazeem_> can someone help me with the wireless internet connection
[23:28] <ashkore> i only had 256MB and that didnt work
[23:28] <cizarr> thanks alot bruenig
[23:28] <XLV> HDTV, linux doesnt need such pos... when all else fails, rmmod your nic's module, then modprobe it again
[23:29] <specscript> ashkore, pm me?
[23:29] <ashkore> ok
[23:29] <Flare183> lex:> can't rip
[23:29] <Flare183> it's illiegial
[23:29] <bruenig> !info net-tools | sumonish
[23:29] <ubotu> sumonish: net-tools: The NET-3 networking toolkit. In component main, is important. Version 1.60-17ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 772 kB
[23:29] <angel> bruenig| damn it, i really can't find a way arounf doing a custom kickstart
[23:29] <bruenig> angel, use another distro
[23:29] <Flare183> !language | angel
[23:29] <HDTV> Flare183, So by typing sudo dhclient..that renews your ip address?
[23:29] <wazeem_> is uboto a bot?
[23:29] <ubotu> angel: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:29] <sumonish> !ifup
[23:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:29] <ashkore> wazee, yes
[23:29] <sumonish> !if
[23:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about if - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:29] <wazeem_> i see
[23:29] <lex> Flare183: so there's no way to make a legit backup of a dvd you own?
[23:29] <Flare183> HDTV :> it searchs for another one
[23:29] <bruenig> !sorry | wazeem_
[23:29] <ubotu> wazeem_: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[23:30] <metanil> apt-get install glib didn't work
[23:30] <dm> Hello. I want to normalize an mp3 audio file losslessly. Can you reccommend a (tiny cmd line) tool for this task?
[23:30] <gordonjcp> lex: of course there is
[23:30] <metanil> apt-get install glib didn't work
[23:30] <angel> bruenig| lol, no! ubuntu thus far is the best for my needs
[23:30] <gordonjcp> lex: just rip it and save it out on disk somewhere
[23:30] <Flare183> yeah with k3b or a gnome burner
[23:30] <specscript> ashkore, read pm?
[23:30] <crdlb> metanil: what *exactly* are you doing?
[23:30] <angel> ubotu| sorry
[23:30] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[23:30] <gordonjcp> dm: you can't, basically
[23:30] <lex> gordonjcp: that's the thing, it fails on the rip as stated above
[23:30] <angel> ubotu| i though you were a bot
[23:30] <wazeem_> well is anyone experienced with wireless ubuntu capabilities?
[23:30] <bruenig> dm, mp3gain doesn't normalize per se, it adds a tag that a lot of audio players read so that they adjust the volume, that is the only really lossless way to do so
[23:31] <EnderTheThird> genii: you still there?
[23:31] <gordonjcp> lex: you often need a *lot* of free disk space
[23:31] <lex> gordonjcp: 2TB here, not really a problem
[23:31] <angel> ok room, good night!
[23:31] <metanil> apt-get install glib didn't work (ubuntu 6.06 dapper)
[23:31] <YgorSpain> Hello guys. this is my problem,I was trying to add a 3 panel while some programs icons which i drag nd drop to the 2nd panel dissapear. Now everytime i log into ubuntu only my icons works.my panels are frozed and clean and i cant do anything.also the alt-f2 is not working. someone know how can i get this fixed ?
[23:31] <gordonjcp> lex: "lol you're doing it wrong" ;-)
[23:31] <metanil> apt-get install glib didn't work (ubuntu 6.06 dapper)
[23:31] <gordonjcp> lex: 2TB should be enough for anybody
[23:31] <metanil> apt-get install glib didn't work (ubuntu 6.06 dapper)
[23:31] <crdlb> metanil: stop repeating yourself
[23:31] <bruenig> metanil, stop
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:31] <metanil> oops.. sorry
[23:31] <genii> EnderTheThird: Yes, preoccupied a bit but around :)
[23:32] <wazeem_> my ubuntu picks up the network however doesnt connect to it
[23:32] <crdlb> metanil: what are you *doing* ?
[23:32] <babo> guys, where are the framebuffers on gutsy ?
[23:32] <metanil> somebody did listening me..
[23:32] <metanil> :D
[23:32] <babo> I can't find any in /dev
[23:32] <babo> my qemu is faulting with ...
[23:32] <lex> gordonjcp: would you recommend ripping it as an ISO instead of trying to transcode it to an x264?
[23:32] <babo> (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device!
[23:32] <babo> (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use 'fbdev' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable.
[23:32] <babo> it's annoying
[23:32] <bruenig> just ignore him for being obnoxious
[23:32] <babo> help
[23:32] <genii> btw for the interested, answer to my previous q:  mencoder -mf on:w=800:h=600:fps=25 -ovc divx4 -o output.avi \*.jpg       will make an avi from a bunch of jpg
[23:32] <Khisanth> metanil: that should be libglib2.0 assuming you are not looking for the 1.x version
[23:32] <gordonjcp> lex: hmmm, possibly
[23:32] <metanil> thanks khisanth ..
[23:32] <specscript> when i run ubuntu in safe graphics mode, how can i run the install program?
[23:32] <bruenig> genii, why are you escaping the *?
[23:32] <babo> anyone ?
[23:32] <gordonjcp> lex: I can't remember what I used last time I ripped a DVD, but it had a nice GUI and was relatively fast
[23:33] <EnderTheThird> genii:  Ha, thanks.  I redownloaded VMware tarball, but make won't work.  it used an install script to install.  I'm looking at the script now for removal instructions, unless you know of another way to remove?
[23:33] <metanil> (message are flowing too fast here.. so i send them multiple times.. sorry )
[23:33] <SpookyET> Does anyone have a link to the best partitions setup for linux?
[23:33] <SpookyET> and their sizes
[23:33] <specscript> when i run ubuntu in safe graphics mode, how can i run the install program?
[23:33] <LjL> !best > SpookyET    (SpookyET, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:33] <bruenig> SpookyET, optimal is relative to your disk size and what you are wanting to do
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lex: I use k9copy
[23:33] <gordonjcp> genii: I do that to assemble up rendered single frames into a "rush print" of an animation ;-)
[23:33] <genii> EnderTheThird: I'm not familiar with vmware
[23:33] <crdlb> metanil: just don't do that here, everyone saw it the first time
[23:33] <SpookyET> bruenig: Disk size 100GB. Do, mostly desktop, some server related as well since I web design.
[23:33] <bruenig> the channel is flowing so fast, I know what it needs, spam!!
[23:34] <cizarr> there is any way to convert flv file to mp3?
[23:34] <EnderTheThird> genii: stupid me installed it before .deb's were available and now it's hogging too much space when all I need is VirtualBox, heh
[23:34] <heartsblood> Are there any advanced mouse configuration packages out there?
[23:34] <babo> no-one knows where the framebuffers are ? Are there even framebuffers on gusty ?
[23:34] <genii> bruenig: Not sure why it's \ and not / but it's from an example, I didn't write it
[23:34] <ibanez> MasterShrek, you about mate ?
[23:34] <specscript> when i run ubuntu in safe graphics mode, how can i run the install program?
[23:34] <babo> I asked the same question in the forums a couple of days ago and I got zero replies ...
[23:34] <wazeem_> hello can someone help me please
[23:34] <bruenig> SpookyET, I'd say 10-15 gig / partition and the rest /home
[23:34] <lex> Jack_Sparrow: when i go to use that, i click the "create mpeg-4", the dialog pops up to start, then it goes away after a few seconds
[23:34] <astro76> SpookyET, http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/disk-partitioning.html
[23:34] <babo> is it just me or is ubuntu support getting less and less enthusiastic as the releases go by ?
[23:34] <bruenig> SpookyET, the more server stuff you are thinking about the higher on / you want to go
[23:34] <ibanez> i hear about this bug, that ubuntu has, that kills most laptops harddrives
[23:35] <gordonjcp> lex: dvdrip, I think
[23:35] <gordonjcp> ibanez: yeah, it's bogus
[23:35] <LjL> !hdbug > ibanez    (ibanez, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:35] <SpookyET> bruenig: I want / /boot /usr /var /tmp /home /swap etc
[23:35] <bruenig> genii, well *.jpg I assume is meant to be expanded by bash to say all of the jpgs, seems odd that it is being escaped is all
[23:35] <MasterShrek> sup ibanez
[23:35] <gordonjcp> !hdbug > ibanez
[23:35] <bruenig> SpookyET, why?
[23:35] <ibanez> thank you LjL
[23:35] <lex> gordonjcp, that's the only that won't rip it all the way and fails
[23:35] <bruenig> SpookyET, all on different partitions?
[23:35] <comicinke1> in anjuta when I try to call the help I receive followng message: "Unable to display help. Please make sure Anjuta documentation package is install" what packet is missing?
[23:35] <ere4si> What's the command for logout/switch user pls
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> lex: NEver had any issues with it here...  May I assume you have all your codecs restricted drivers and installed K9 from the ubuntu repos?
[23:35] <wazeem_> please can someone help me regarding wireless internet connections
[23:35] <adac2> in which repository can I find the kplayer?
[23:35] <SpookyET> bruenig: It will act as a limited server as well. So yeah, all on different partitions. I just need to know the optimal sizes
[23:36] <babo> right. it's not just me then ...
[23:36] <ibanez> in theory it doesn't seem right to me
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi | waz
[23:36] <ubotu> waz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:36] <bruenig> SpookyET, do you have any reason why you want them all on different partitions?
[23:36] <LjL> adac2: i don't know of a kplayer
[23:36] <ibanez> XP would use just as much disk usage under high loads.
[23:36] <genii> bruenig: Works, anyhow :)
[23:36] <babo> where did all the real linux hackers go ?
[23:36] <wazeem_> !wifi
[23:36] <wazeem_> jack sparrow what was your message meant to mean?
[23:36] <SpookyET> bruenig: Yeah. I do. I just need the optimal sizes.
[23:36] <lex> Jack_Sparrow, i think so. k9copy just gave me: An error occured while running DVDAuthor: ERR: procremap encountered unknown subtitle command: 90
[23:36] <Nirevus> Can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3898065
[23:36] <adac2> LjL-Temp: http://kplayer.sourceforge.net/
[23:37] <bruenig> SpookyET, so you don't want to say the reason or...
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wazeem_: You wanted wifi info.. that is the place to start... then return and ask good questions.
[23:37] <wazeem_> i typed !wifi but nothing happened
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> lex: HAve you tried different dvd's...
[23:37] <LjL> adac2, they offer an ubuntu package on their very site
[23:37] <genii> wazeem_: scroll up and click on the link it gave earlier
[23:37] <SpookyET> bruenig: It's a desire. Nothing more, nothing less.
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> wazeem_: Go to the link it provided..
[23:38] <wazeem_> i see, i thought it was a command
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:38] <metanil> is glib package name is libglib2.0-0???
[23:38] <adac2> LjL-Temp: well I know...but why it isn't in any repository?
[23:38] <bruenig> metanil, you were just told that
[23:39] <hectorpal> repeating my question: I add a line like that to my sudoers: myuser ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/myprogram, but when I do sudo /usr/bin/myprogram it still ask for the password
[23:39] <jiml_> hi
[23:39] <wazeem_> oh btw i have read the docs
[23:39] <LjL> adac2, there's plenty of software that's not in the repositories. if you want to fix that, join #ubuntu-motu, read the topic and start learning about packaging :)
[23:39] <jiml_> anybody?
[23:39] <hectorpal> jiml_: lot of people
[23:40] <Brolx> lotsa people, yes
[23:40] <adac2> LjL-Temp: lol..i will:)
[23:40] <hectorpal> guys I have a weird problem. NOPASSWD is not working in my sudoers. Any idea?
[23:40] <babo> someone probably messed it up by adding all that compiz crap ...
[23:40] <wazeem_> im able to see the surrounding networks but cant connect
[23:40] <Brolx> my Firefox Browser keeps disappearing - any idea why?
[23:40] <hectorpal> I think I will have to file a bug
[23:41] <NetLarIrvine> is 128 mg Ram enough for 7.10?
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> nope
[23:41] <adac2> no
[23:41] <MartianLobster> is there a howto somewhere for installing a linksys pcimcia card onto a laptop?
[23:42] <wazeem_> Jack Im able to see my network but when i try to connect nothing happens
[23:42] <lex> Jack_Sparrow: other dvd's don't work either
[23:42] <NetLarIrvine> What would be the recommended then
[23:42] <jimmygoon> So I love Superbad so much that I must have it on my hard drive... what is the easiest way to rip to HD?
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> MartianLobster: Look up the cippset in that card based on the model number.  The one I have here has the bcm43xx which works nicely
[23:42] <aco_> where can I find Opera for 64bit kubuntu??
[23:42] <crdlb> NetLarIrvine: xubuntu
[23:42] <MartianLobster> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[23:43] <bill1> opera.com?
[23:43] <NetLarIrvine> xubuntu?
[23:43] <crdlb> !xubuntu
[23:43] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[23:43] <EnderTheThird> genii:  got it!  there was an uninstall script elsewhere in the tarball.  yay!
[23:43] <aco_> bill, there is no 64bit package..
[23:43] <svejeisto> hello all
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> MartianLobster: You can also google ubuntu and your chipset to find others with it and how they got it to work.. or didnt
[23:43] <metanil> how to install glibc... ( just install glib )?
[23:43] <babo> so the fbdev man page suggests that /dev/fb0 is the default framebuffer. yet there is no /dev/fb0 in gutsy ..
[23:43] <aco_> 32bit doesn't work it says wrong ELF version...
[23:43] <svejeisto> I have a bit of a problem uninstalling ubuntu,can someone private me and help me out maby? :D
[23:44] <crdlb> metanil: you still haven't said what you are trying to accomplish by installing glib. If you did, we might be able to help you
[23:44] <jimmygoon> How can I rip a DVD to the HD?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> svejeisto: there is no uninstall, just install whatever you want right over the top of it
[23:44] <neur1> hi, installed kde/kubuntu onto ubuntu how do I get the splash screen back instead of the kubuntu one?
[23:44] <NetLarIrvine> But I want Ubuntu
[23:44] <NetLarIrvine> I have not purchased the PC yet
[23:44] <hectorpal> !sudoers
[23:44] <crdlb> NetLarIrvine: then get at least 256MB
[23:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:44] <babo> Am I being ignored or does nobody know what I'm talking about ?
[23:44] <NetLarIrvine> oik, thanks
[23:45] <metanil> i'm try to compile one source package.. its has prerequisite of glibc, gcc...... and i didn't found glibc in my machine.
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essentails
[23:45] <svejeisto> ok, I've installed Ubuntu on a new laptop, first OS ever installed, but since it has serious issues with the graphics, I have to uninstall it, reformat HDD and install Vista, can someone help me out?It's kinda urgent...
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !buildessentails
[23:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentails - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <comicinke1> in anjuta when I try to call the help I receive followng error message: "Unable to display help. Please make sure Anjuta documentation package is install" what packet is missing?
[23:46] <Brolx> ack
[23:46] <svejeisto> anyone?
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry folks.. I cant spell today... build-essentials
[23:47] <Brolx> Does anyone know why my Firefox browser keeps disappearing from the screen when I'm using it? It's just the Internet window, and it's done it 35 times in the past 2 days.
[23:47] <crdlb> Jack_Sparrow: it's "build-essential"
[23:47] <svejeisto> anyone?ok, I've installed Ubuntu on a new laptop, first OS ever installed, but since it has serious issues with the graphics, I have to uninstall it, reformat HDD and install Vista, can someone help me out?It's kinda urgent...
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> crdlb: thank you...  having a really "Ugly" day
[23:47] <svejeisto> used to use ubuntu before, never had to uninstall it
[23:47] <svejeisto> :D
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Brolx: How did you install firefox, java and flash in that computer?
[23:48] <Brolx> Jack_Sparrow: My friend did that for me.
[23:48] <crdlb> svejeisto: the windows installer will happily clobber your existing ubuntu install
[23:48] <babo> right. apparently the framebuffer is broken in gusty. if someone else comes in here with the same problem - them maybe you might like to tell them that ...
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Brolx: DId he ever mention anthing about scripts, automatix or envy?  Very bad ideas by the way
[23:49] <Brolx> Jack_Sparrow... although I did reinstall Firefox yesterday on someone else's advice using the console command of (I think) sudo apt-get install firefox
[23:49] <Brolx> And no, he did not.
[23:49] <svejeisto> k
[23:50] <svejeisto> well vista installer comes to the point where it lets me choose the partition on which i should install it
[23:50] <svejeisto> i get 2 partitions, 2gb logic one
[23:50] <svejeisto> and the rest
[23:50] <svejeisto> and i can't format either of them
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Brolx: Ok.. no problem with what they told you to do yesterday..  COuld you run this in a terminal window then paste the resulting file on your desktop into the pastebin and give me the link in here..  cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop/sources.list.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[23:50] <RedEyess> Hello
[23:50] <RedEyess> how do i remove grub from within linux
[23:50] <RedEyess> i can't boot into windows
[23:50] <svejeisto> crdlb any ideas?
[23:51] <crdlb> svejeisto: that sounds like a better question for ##windows
[23:51] <devin_> hrm
[23:51] <svejeisto> oh, ok
[23:51] <svejeisto> thnx
[23:51] <dirtyhand> whats a good Linux app to do production server backups on an external HD?
[23:51] <RedEyess> all i have access to is Linux
[23:52] <pwnager> how do i get azureus working? i have it installed, but i cant seem to dl torrents
[23:52] <RedEyess> i would use windows to fix the mbr
[23:52] <wazeem> ok has anyone dealt with the rt73 driver for ubuntu?
[23:52] <RedEyess> but i don't have the opportunity
[23:52] <LjL> !info mbr > RedEyess
[23:52] <LjL> !info ms-sys > RedEyess
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> RedEyess: you would boot the windows cd and use their recovery mode...
[23:53] <RedEyess> ok
[23:53] <RedEyess> I have Vista
[23:53] <d10b> Why does "find / -name %1 2> /dev/null" output nothing when i run it from a shell script?
[23:53] <shameless> heheh, i've got my dual boot vista/ubuntu running a mac osx skin, it's wonderfully clusterfucked
[23:53] <RedEyess> and at the command line, there is no fdisk
[23:53] <RedEyess> or fixmbr
[23:53] <LjL> d10b: what is %1?
[23:53] <dirtyhand> whats a good Linux app to do production server backups on an external HD?
[23:53] <wazeem> oh man ubuntu is so hard to use and i feel helpless X(
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> dirtyhand: basic dd comand should do it
[23:54] <LjL> !wifi > wazeem    (wazeem, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:54] <dirtyhand> dd?
[23:54] <Brolx> Jack_Sparrow: I'm new to Linux, so you'll need to be patient. What exactly is a pastebin?
[23:54] <Seivan|> Is there a way to see your CPU temperature, in the console?
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[23:54] <LjL> !pastebin > Brolx    (Brolx, see the private message from Ubotu)
[23:54] <LjL> !info lm-sensors > Seivan|
[23:54] <wazeem> i have gone over the wifi docs
[23:54] <Pky> RedEyess: What do you want to do?
[23:54] <wazeem> but nothing makes sense
[23:54] <shameless> has anyone running kiba-dock on gutsy run into an issue with booting it up? cause i have a weird bug and it won't boot up anymore, i got it to work once, but now it won't open
[23:54] <Seivan|> LjL dont understand, should I download it
[23:55] <viro> kiba dock?
[23:55] <RedEyess> I want to remove grub
[23:55] <d10b> %1 is the filename.  i have that line in a shell script so i can just type "f filename"
[23:55] <LjL> !info lm-sensors | Seivan|
[23:55] <ubotu> seivan|: lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[23:55] <RedEyess> from within Linux
[23:55] <the-papster> gcc wont compile
[23:55] <bulmer> hectorpal-> what is your entry for that command not needing password?
[23:55] <CaptainMorgan> how do I turn off "look for sources CD" remotely?
[23:55] <Pky> RedEyess: And just boot into windows?
[23:55] <LjL> Seivan|: you should type « sudo apt-get install lm-sensors », like with all packages
[23:55] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to install g++
[23:55] <RedEyess> yes
[23:55] <pwnager> how do i dl torrents with azureus?
[23:55] <shameless> yeah, kiba dock
[23:55] <Seivan|> LjL done, what now =)
[23:55] <LjL> Seivan|: then run "sudo sensors-detect"
[23:55] <the-papster> CaptainMorgan: sudo apt-get install g++
[23:55] <hectorpal> blumer: working on it. Maybe I have it...
[23:55] <shameless> i'm trying to finish off a full mac skin, and i can't get it to work properly
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> RedEyess: YOu cant remove grub and leave working windows from linux.. unless you have a copy of the mbr from a special backup.. which is doubtful
[23:55] <jimmygoon> what program can i use for media synchronization?
[23:56] <Pky> RedEyess: And you can only boot to nix? Why don't you fix your grub to give you a choice?
[23:56] <wazeem> how can i make ubuntu drivers from a windows driver :S
[23:56] <CaptainMorgan> the-papster, incorrect - I already applied that command
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !ndiswrapper
[23:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:56] <RedEyess> i am using the live cd
[23:56] <the-papster> thats the exact command i just used
[23:56] <RedEyess> i haven't booted from within Linux from the hard drive
[23:56] <wazeem> !ndiswrapper
[23:56] <the-papster> CaptainMorgan: try this command first "apt-get update"
[23:56] <LjL> !info ndiswrapper
[23:56] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy
[23:56] <andre_> Hey guys, I'm having a hard time formatting my harddrive.... Gparted is taking forever to start up
[23:56] <LjL> pf
[23:56] <Seivan|> LjL now what?
[23:56] <LjL> Seivan|: now run "sensors"
[23:57] <Pky> RedEyess: You could also boot a Windows XP/Vista disk and get into the repair terminal and run fixmbr
[23:57] <wazeem> !info ndiswrapper
[23:57] <Seivan|> LjL no sensors found
[23:57] <Brolx> Jack_Sparrow and LjL: Thanks. This is the URL. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47055/
[23:57] <RedEyess> ok
[23:57] <wazeem> lol sorry for spamming
[23:57] <RedEyess> let me try that
[23:57] <RedEyess> thanks
[23:57] <Vad1> Where can I get libwxgtk that's bigger than version 2.8.7? I need it for code::blocks, but the latest in the repos is 2.8.0.
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Pky: he was told that ages ago..
[23:57] <LjL> Seivan|: didn't sensors-detect find any?
[23:57] <wazeem> i think those commands dont work for me
[23:57] <Seivan|> LjL it did, and it added
[23:57] <Pky> Jack_Sparrow: And he turned it down?
[23:58] <LjL> Seivan|: try either rebooting or adding manually the ones it found (by doing "sudo modprobe module-name" for each module it detected)
[23:58] <bulmer> CaptainMorgan-> remove the entry for cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list.save
[23:58] <Nematocyst> Seivan|, need to modprobe them first then.  or reboot
[23:58] <the-papster> CaptainMorgan: is it working yet?
[23:58] <Vad1> Where can I get libwxgtk that's bigger than version 2.8.7? I need it for code::blocks, but the latest in the repos is 2.8.0.
[23:58] <Flare183> !repeat
[23:58] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:58] <SeanTater> Is there a way to divide a terminal in half, so I can run two programs and see their outputs separately?
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Pky: What ya gonna do..  he will figure it out
[23:59] <crdlb> SeanTater: I believe screen can do that
[23:59] <andre_> Hey guys, I'm having a hard time formatting my harddrive.... Gparted is taking forever to start up
[23:59] <Flare183> SeanTater:> use two terminals
[23:59] <wols_> andre_: why do you need gparted to format something?
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Brolx: that looks fine.  It looks like he installed feisty and upgraded you to gutsy
[23:59] <the-papster> !repeat | andre_
[23:59] <ubotu> andre_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:59] <SeanTater> crdlb: I'll look into it
[23:59] <andre_> wols_: What do you suggest?
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> andre_: mkfs
[23:59] <wols_> any fdisk program and mkfs*
[23:59] <jimmygoon> !sync
[23:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi