| evil_tech | i think it is missing something but i dont know what | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| gerro | I think I've found a bug in xubuntu login | 00:07 |
| gerro | if you go applications > settings > login window > local then change themed with face browser to Happy GNOME with Browser if you logout you get a blank screen and nothing responds however it works on boot | 00:08 |
| thruxton | evil_tech: why the iso extension? | 00:40 |
| evil_tech | so i can burn it to disc later | 00:43 |
| evil_tech | not really neccessary suppose | 00:43 |
| zoredache | evil_tech: no.. that is wrong. (of=/dev/sda1) /dev/sda1 is a device node not a mount point... you can't have a /filename after it | 00:44 |
| zoredache | you would need to mount the mount the thumbdrive somewhere and then use dd to copy to a file within that path. | 00:45 |
| evil_tech | so if i was to mount it in /media/thumbdrive then it would work | 00:45 |
| zoredache | keep in mind that dd will also copy empty space... so your thumdrive must be bigger then the partion you are backing up | 00:46 |
| evil_tech | yeah 4gig thumb drive and a 2gig hard drive | 00:48 |
| zoredache | why aren't you making a backup with tar or something? | 00:54 |
| evil_tech | drive has an OS | 00:55 |
| zoredache | sorry? | 00:56 |
| gerro | alright turns out flgxr umm whatever the ati proprietary driver is called has a bug where xorg restart doesn't work.. like ctrl alt backspace or log out feature. Anyone know of a work around? | 00:56 |
| zoredache | the thumbdrive or the hard drive? I don't see why that prevents you from using tar by the way | 00:56 |
| gerro | evil_tech: hey sup man haven't seen you around lately | 00:56 |
| evil_tech | you get all your issues resolved except for the one above | 00:57 |
| evil_tech | zordache: i dont know how to tar an entire drives contents and keep directory structure | 00:57 |
| gerro | does xubuntu still have those weird power issues with wireless usb devices using ndiswrapper? | 01:00 |
| gerro | don't know if 7.10 changed that and trying to setup wireless | 01:01 |
| evil_tech | dunno wasnt aware that was even an issue | 01:03 |
| zoredache | evil_tech: tar gets subdirectories by default usually. if you hard drive was mounted as / I would do something like tar --one-file-system -czf /media/thumb/computername_hda1.tar.gz / | 01:05 |
| evil_tech | ok ill give that a try | 01:06 |
| NathanExplosion | why would ndisrapper say that a driver .inf file is invald? | 01:06 |
| evil_tech | using the wrong one perhaps? | 01:08 |
| gerro | evil_tech: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2296818 | 01:08 |
| gerro | NathanExplosion: perhaps the inf doesn't match the .sys or the device | 01:08 |
| gerro | what is it your trying to get going anyway? | 01:08 |
| NathanExplosion | nvermind i'm stupid i didn't have the .cat files with the .inf file | 01:09 |
| evil_tech | a customer brought in an old 486 that was running DOS and a voicemail system. they are trying to migrate it over to another system and find some way to back it up | 01:10 |
| NathanExplosion | it's some intel laptop and i'm trying to help someone install wifi driver | 01:11 |
| evil_tech | intel laptop? | 01:11 |
| NathanExplosion | laptop with intel cpu* | 01:11 |
| evil_tech | ah | 01:11 |
| NathanExplosion | i'm not sure what brand it is. | 01:11 |
| gerro | hmm don't know if they really need the .cat files | 01:14 |
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| gerro | NathanExplosion: hmm lshw, lspci, lsusb find its listing somewhere you can use its mac address to find out which company made it and what model it is | 01:38 |
| evil_tech | you just need the first 6 digits | 01:39 |
| zoredache | evil_tech: how is that 486 connected to the phone system? Are you sure the interface will even be supported on recent equipment? | 01:42 |
| evil_tech | standard modem | 01:43 |
| evil_tech | 36k modem in an isa slot | 01:44 |
| evil_tech | by recent system i was meaning a p3 700mhz with 128mb and a 4gig hard drive | 01:44 |
| zoredache | I see | 01:45 |
| gerro | usb power settings are fixed in 7.10!! damn I <3 gutsy :D | 01:46 |
| zoredache | well simply copying files will not work. You will need to either build a DOS boot disk to format and reinstall the system files, or you will need to install something like freedos | 01:46 |
| evil_tech | i know. i have plenty of DOS boot disks | 01:47 |
| evil_tech | but i shouldnt need them if i keep the directory structure and copy it over. the three file dos needs will be there | 01:48 |
| evil_tech | its only a temporary fix for a month or two until they find a suitable replacement system | 01:48 |
| zoredache | yes, but they won't be in the correct location on the filesystem, and the mbr will not be created | 01:49 |
| evil_tech | well worse case i can reinstall DOS. | 01:49 |
| evil_tech | i have the discs | 01:49 |
| evil_tech | :) | 01:49 |
| evil_tech | good old DOS 6.22 | 01:50 |
| echosystm | whats the difference between add/remove and synaptic? :/ | 02:40 |
| somerville32 | echosystm, just different front-ends | 02:52 |
| echosystm | now, next question! | 02:57 |
| echosystm | can totem support all the formats vlc can, but without compiling stuff? | 02:57 |
| echosystm | i did the medibuntu stuff | 02:57 |
| echosystm | but it seems avi is still not supported | 02:57 |
| somerville32 | I'm not sure | 03:04 |
| somerville32 | You'll have to refer to the wiki :) | 03:04 |
| echosystm | alrighty | 03:05 |
| T65 | Does ndiswrapper come with Xubuntu? | 03:43 |
| echosystm | how do i get compiz-fusion running? | 03:52 |
| echosystm | anyone? | 03:52 |
| cheeseboy | T65, no | 03:52 |
| T65 | cheeseboy, i'm trying to get a wireless usb network adapter running, is there anything I could use to get drivers instlaled for it? It is a Belkin F5d7050 | 03:53 |
| echosystm | what chipset does it use T65? | 03:53 |
| T65 | Not sure, I've seen all the different ones but i don't know where to find what chipset mine uses | 03:54 |
| cheeseboy | T65, i had that acually | 03:54 |
| cheeseboy | ended up smashing it | 03:55 |
| T65 | cheeseboy, I'm about to, save for money purposes | 03:55 |
| echosystm | T65: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Belkin+F5d7050+chipset&btnG=Google+Search&meta= | 03:55 |
| echosystm | it's not that hard to type the model and then "chipset" :P | 03:56 |
| cheeseboy | echosystm, #compiz-fusion | 03:56 |
| echosystm | it uses an RT2500 chipset | 03:56 |
| echosystm | and here is a thread talking about it | 03:57 |
| echosystm | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252465 | 03:57 |
| T65 | I've seen a lot of people saying they have z1211a or b chipset also | 03:58 |
| T65 | I'm still new to this (by about a week), do I need to get the tar file for ndiswrapper and install it on my Linux PC? | 03:59 |
| echosystm | if youre new to this, i would suggest not using ubuntu to be honest | 04:00 |
| cheeseboy | T65 sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-utils | 04:00 |
| echosystm | try pclinuxos and save yourself a lot of headaches | 04:00 |
| T65 | echosystm, that was my 2nd choice acutally | 04:00 |
| T65 | cheeseboy, will that command only work on an internet connected computer? I'm on a different one right now | 04:00 |
| T65 | Ive tried sudo apt-get ndiswrapper and it said it couldn't be found | 04:01 |
| cheeseboy | TG5 then download the debs | 04:01 |
| cheeseboy | 6* | 04:01 |
| cheeseboy | http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 | 04:02 |
| cheeseboy | http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/ndiswrapper-common | 04:02 |
| T65 | then just extract it and install it? | 04:02 |
| cheeseboy | sudo dpkg -i file.deb | 04:02 |
| T65 | type that after i extract it? | 04:03 |
| cheeseboy | no extracting | 04:05 |
| cheeseboy | you should download 2 .deb files | 04:05 |
| T65 | OK, they're downloaded, gotta put them on a usb and move em to the other computer | 04:07 |
| T65 | does it matter where i save them to? | 04:07 |
| cheeseboy | no | 04:08 |
| T65 | ok, sorry if these are dumb questions I'm new to all of this | 04:08 |
| T65 | ...but I do like xubuntu better than windows me | 04:08 |
| cheeseboy | better than any windows | 04:11 |
| T65 | XP ain't so bad...but ME pretty much killed itself, i turned it on one day and it wouldn't boot, told me some registry files were missing | 04:13 |
| emilami | any word yet on when that update to flashplugin-nonfree will be added to the repositories? | 04:13 |
| cheeseboy | emilami, just download from adobe | 04:14 |
| slimjimflim | hi. anyone know of a command to display the default resolution? | 04:15 |
| emilami | yeah, that's what i was thinking about doing. i don't think they've added a flash update to the repositories in ages | 04:15 |
| slimjimflim | i can see that it's on default from the display settings, but i don't know what the number is | 04:15 |
| slimjimflim | *numbers are | 04:15 |
| cheeseboy | emilami, i just did it install took literally 3 seconds | 04:16 |
| slimjimflim | nm | 04:16 |
| emilami | yeah, i almost did the download from adobe about 14-16 hours ago but someone in here talked me into waiting | 04:17 |
| emilami | and i wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to be added shortly before i installed it from adobe | 04:17 |
| gerro | hmm doing some stuff and was wondering how I can make video file of what I'm doing on computer. I heard of xvidcap and gvidcap but those aren't in repository perhaps there is a newer way to do things? | 04:49 |
| haji | hi , how do i untar tar.bz2? | 05:47 |
| annihilus | can someone explain how to lock th screen in xubunut, in ubuntu i have the option to lock the screen in the log out/restart/shutdown menu | 06:16 |
| xubuN | hello is there a volonteer to help a newbe (10 days linux) | 12:09 |
| Pumpernickel | !ask | 12:21 |
| ubotu | Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) | 12:21 |
| xubuN | i have only been able to live CD xub so far, I tried HD , (bad HD) so usb now, 2GB should be ok? | 13:09 |
| Odd-rationale | When I click on the XFCE menu button on the top panel, the menu does not show up. How to fix? | 13:31 |
| Odd-rationale | Hey, I got it to work. | 13:35 |
| martin__ | hello, i'm having problems with nicotine - i installed in from synaptic and when i turn in on the windows appears but remains blank inside | 15:10 |
| martin__ | can you advise me any p2p sharing program? especially for mp3 | 15:18 |
| vinze | martin__, only for legal purpose I presume? If so, I use gtk-gnutella - not really user-friendly, but does a good job | 15:18 |
| martin__ | i would love something easy - i used nicotine previously,but it seems not to work on xubuntu:( | 15:20 |
| vinze | martin__, Amule looked quite easy but I'm not sure whether I could get it to connect | 15:20 |
| vinze | martin__, but gtk-gnutella is easy, just a bit cluttered | 15:20 |
| martin__ | aha, ok:D i'll give it a try;) | 15:20 |
| martin__ | hehe, so far i got it working and that's a success for me:D | 15:27 |
| manchicken | So I'm seeing a lot of folks with that little mac-bar lookin' thing on their screenshots. Do you all know what program that is? | 15:43 |
| vinze | manchicken, there are several | 15:44 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: awn probably | 15:44 |
| vinze | manchicken, I've used Avant Window Navigator | 15:44 |
| manchicken | Is that an xfce add-on or a gtk app independent of DE? | 15:44 |
| vinze | manchicken, independent | 15:45 |
| manchicken | Is it in the repos? | 15:45 |
| vinze | Yes | 15:45 |
| vinze | There's also a third-party repo that includes more plugins | 15:45 |
| vinze | manchicken, but you do need compositing | 15:45 |
| manchicken | I've got that. | 15:45 |
| vinze | K, then you should have no problem | 15:46 |
| manchicken | I've moved to xubuntu because I like to use terminal transparency to avoid Alt-Tabbing while working, and compiz keeps blowing up on this nvidia. | 15:46 |
| manchicken | On my System76 laptop with the Intel x3100 it's not a problem, but compiz just doesn't seem to be able to play nice with this nvidia. Xfwm4, on the other hand, operates as smooth as butter. | 15:47 |
| martin__ | vinze, i tried downloading a file,and after it has reached 100% it remained in the list 'seeding SHA1 OK' - clear finished didn't remove it but purge selected did - what does it mean? | 15:48 |
| manchicken | I take it that there's nothing I can do to get thunar to use gnome-vfs functionality with ssh, is ther? | 15:49 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: you can use fuse sshfs instead | 15:52 |
| manchicken | Yeah, but I don't want to have to configure all of that for all my clients. | 15:52 |
| manchicken | Is there a GUI ssh file-manager client that you all use other than thunar? Maybe filezilla or something? | 15:53 |
| manchicken | Here's another dumb question, is there a way to get tomboy notes onto the panel? | 16:03 |
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| TheSheep | manchicken: a launcher? | 16:08 |
| manchicken | Well, tomboy notes is a panel plugin for gnome that lets you see your notes--similar to the places menu--and also lets you access them from the panel. | 16:09 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: ah, you can install an xfce plugin that allows you to use gnome panel plugins | 16:10 |
| manchicken | Which one is that? I've been skimming the repos for a little bit and I'm not seeing it. | 16:10 |
| vinze | manchicken, xfapplet | 16:11 |
| manchicken | Much thanks. | 16:11 |
| manchicken | Oh that's beautiful. | 16:12 |
| manchicken | Much thanks. | 16:13 |
| vinze | np :) | 16:13 |
| manchicken | Okay, and I just did the gconf thing to stop the desktop loading for nautilus, and I'll just use nautilus for my SSH stuff. | 16:21 |
| manchicken | No biggie. | 16:21 |
| martin__ | hey, is there any place where i can configure file associations? | 16:25 |
| vinze | martin__, you mean like file:///etc/xdg/xubuntu/applications/defaults.list? | 16:25 |
| vinze | (Just happened to come across that yesterday) | 16:26 |
| martin__ | ooo, good to know, never before i had to change that but it's annoying that all picture formats open either in gimp/firefox/gqview;) | 16:27 |
| vinze | martin__, you can also edit file associations from the context menu in Thunar | 16:27 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: you can jsut change them in the file preferences dialog | 16:29 |
| manchicken | TheSheep: What now? | 16:29 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: sorry, wrong nick | 16:30 |
| manchicken | Anybody know how to get firefox to set the wallpaper in xubuntu? | 16:34 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: I don't think it's easily doable | 16:34 |
| manchicken | I would think it's just an about:config setting | 16:34 |
| TheSheep | manchicken: external application messing with your desktop settings? | 16:35 |
| manchicken | TheSheep: Default xubuntu works with it IIRC. With other DEs it's usually just a command that it calls on the backend to get that working. | 16:36 |
| maristo | hello | 17:11 |
| vinze | Hey maristo | 17:11 |
| maristo | Is it problem in Xubuntu 7.10 with burning cd-r(w)'s? | 17:11 |
| vinze | maristo, well, Brasero is included that is supposed to be able to do that, I believe | 17:11 |
| seisen | Is anybody testing Xubuntu 8.04 in VirtualBox | 17:12 |
| maristo | brasero don't want ti burn :( | 17:13 |
| maristo | to* | 17:13 |
| maristo | Xfburn also | 17:13 |
| maristo | but under Ubuntu 7.04 it did work | 17:14 |
| maristo | excuse me, my english is not understandable | 17:15 |
| maristo | ;) | 17:15 |
| TheSheep | maristo: what's the error? | 17:19 |
| maristo | TheSheep: Brasero tells me to insert blank-cd-r | 17:20 |
| TheSheep | maristo: and when you do? | 17:20 |
| maristo | but it's free already | 17:20 |
| maristo | it repeats | 17:20 |
| TheSheep | maristo: are you sure it's empty? | 17:21 |
| maristo | it recomends to erase data on cd, i consider, but after deletion of data is speaks "insert free cdr" | 17:21 |
| maristo | yes I sure | 17:21 |
| TheSheep | hmm... | 17:21 |
| maristo | I tried with new CD-RW | 17:21 |
| maristo | I tried with 3 cd-rw's | 17:22 |
| maristo | all new | 17:22 |
| TheSheep | maristo: maybe try installing k3b, it's a kde application, but it never failed me | 17:22 |
| maristo | hehe | 17:22 |
| maristo | it can solve problem , i know | 17:22 |
| maristo | but, i'll need Qt-libs is't inacceptible for me | 17:23 |
| vinze | maristo, there's also gnomebaker and there was another one I believe | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | graveman | 17:23 |
| maristo | is gomebaker installable from repositories? | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | maristo: yes | 17:23 |
| vinze | Ah yes, Graveman | 17:23 |
| maristo | thank you, I'll try... | 17:23 |
| maristo | reboot | 17:24 |
| maristo | Gnomebaker also doese'nt work | 17:46 |
| maristo | :( | 17:46 |
| maristo | disk ID is too long | 17:46 |
| TheSheep | maristo: at least you got a meaningful error message | 17:47 |
| TheSheep | maristo: kind of | 17:47 |
| maristo | brasero speaks the same | 17:48 |
| maristo | disk ID is too long | 17:48 |
| maristo | what it means? | 17:48 |
| maristo | what's disk ID? | 17:48 |
| maristo | i think it is not problem of program, but of system | 17:53 |
| maristo | because both Brasero and gnomebaker tells tha same | 17:53 |
| maristo | the* | 17:53 |
| aladdinsane | why do i get green annoying circles following my mouse in Gimp on Xubuntu, which after a while cover the whole image im working on? | 17:53 |
| aladdinsane | Is it a grephic card issue or a Xubuntu one? | 17:54 |
| aladdinsane | here's another guy with the same problem: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic/Green-cirle-Issue-25821-1.html | 17:55 |
| Ben_Cs | hello | 18:03 |
| Ben_Cs | i changed partition table from windows and now grub has error 22. how can i rewrite grub from livecd? | 18:03 |
| scrapbunny | hello. i just switched to xubuntu-desktop on my edubuntu 7.10 system running ltsp 5. is there a program/script like gnome-watchdog that works on xfce? I am having issues with phantom programs | 18:27 |
| christopherhokan | OK, I've got a question: I'm a newbie to Xubuntu. Is there a page with written insturctions on how to install CompizFusion onto Xubuntu, or will the instructions for Ubuntu work? | 20:20 |
| PeckaH | there isn't much to write | 20:21 |
| PeckaH | install compiz and there you go | 20:21 |
| christopherhokan | I didn't know if the instructions were any different on Xubuntu because of Xfce | 20:22 |
| christopherhokan | thanks | 20:25 |
| cheeseboy | hi | 20:31 |
| seisen | hello | 20:33 |
| cheeseboy | can linux compile something 4 windows?? | 20:36 |
| cheeseboy | like make exe | 20:36 |
| seisen | not that I know of | 20:37 |
| Pumpernickel | Short answer: no. | 20:38 |
| Pumpernickel | Longer answer: maybe, with more work than you're probably expecting to put into it. | 20:38 |
| cheeseboy | stupid program doesnt work anyway | 20:48 |
| cheeseboy | :( | 20:49 |
| Merchelo | hello | 20:58 |
| Merchelo | is there a GUI for formatting an external USB HD for xubuntu ? | 20:59 |
| zoredache | gparted if you install it | 21:01 |
| Merchelo | thanks, looks like it'll have to be partition magic under windows though, Damn windows :( | 21:17 |
| === htownandafk_work is now known as codenamekt_work | ||
| Quarterlife | Hi. I need some help. I don't have a specific problem but rather general install planning questions (I want to do things right the first time). If someone can help me, please msg. | 21:54 |
| seisen | go ahead with your question | 21:54 |
| Quarterlife | I have this old computer lying around, and I plan to make it into a home server. I will probably botch the OS many times, so I'm planning to do two partitions. | 21:56 |
| Quarterlife | So how much should I leave to the OS? And, how can I move /home to the other partition? | 21:57 |
| seisen | this link should help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472200 | 21:59 |
| cheeseboy | Quarterlife, always put home on separate partition | 21:59 |
| seisen | cheeseboy that is what he is planning on doing | 22:00 |
| cheeseboy | o thought he was asking if he should | 22:02 |
| cheeseboy | misread | 22:02 |
| Quarterlife | I'm planning to have it act as a file server too, so that anyone from my local network can plump files into it. How would that fit into this partition thingy? (continued, wait a bit) | 22:03 |
| Quarterlife | So will I run into some nasty permission problems if I do that to the same partition where /home will be going? | 22:04 |
| Quarterlife | Or is it perhaps a bad idea in some other way? | 22:09 |
| zoredache_ | Quarterlife: do your users need to share files? | 22:11 |
| === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache | ||
| zoredache | if not, then having them store stuff in /home is pretty standard. If you want things shared, then you might create a folder in /srv or something | 22:12 |
| Quarterlife | Ehh. How can I do that if the other partition is mounted as /home? Impossible? 3rd partition? Forget the idea? | 22:17 |
| zoredache | you could use lvm for your data volumes | 22:21 |
| zoredache | create one partition for your boot/root stuff, and one lvm volume for /home, /srv, swap, /var/, , etc | 22:21 |
| zoredache | lvm is even nice enough to allow you to expand a partition while it is in-use | 22:22 |
| zoredache | so you can start with smaller logical volumes, and leave space, then expand the volumes as needed | 22:22 |
| Quarterlife | Sounds good | 22:23 |
| Quarterlife | Now... How is it done? | 22:25 |
| zoredache | that is where it gets tricky... | 22:27 |
| zoredache | if you are using the alternate installer, you can setup an lvm partition... I don't think you can on the livecd though | 22:28 |
| Quarterlife | That is no problem, I can get it. | 22:30 |
| BB83 | If I understand correctly, using xfce should be quicker but only if you use xfce integrated apps instead of g/k/... apps ? | 22:30 |
| Quarterlife | But then this thing is going to take some time. | 22:30 |
| zoredache | BB83: that is somewhat, but not entirely true. | 22:31 |
| BB83 | I mean that if I use xfce but still launch all my habitual kapps it wont be very useful ? | 22:32 |
| zoredache | it really depends on what other applications you use. But XFCE has a lot less running in the background by default | 22:32 |
| zoredache | it could be somewhat useful. For example xubuntu doesn't automatically come with a network browser which means it won't be constantly scanning the network | 22:33 |
| zoredache | there are other things like that. Services that run in the background that may be somewhat useful, but do consume memory and cpu time | 22:34 |
| zoredache | but xfce won't make your kapps run any faster, other then you might have more ram/cpu available | 22:34 |
| BB83 | ok | 22:35 |
| BB83 | I think I see | 22:35 |
| manchicken | Is there a way to keep a window from switching desktops when it tries to take focus and I'm not looking at its desktop? | 22:40 |
| manchicken | e.g., I have firefox on desktop 1, and I have evolution on desktop 2. I click a URL in evolution and Firefox tries to take focus. Currently it actually moves firefox to desktop 2 and off of desktop 1. I'd like firefox to remain on desktop 1. | 22:41 |
| evil_tech | you could try activating focus stealing prevention | 22:48 |
| evil_tech | it is in window manager tweaks | 22:49 |
| evil_tech | you could also try having no default application for web links | 22:49 |
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