[00:00] <tsilalah> it breaks in the middle of installation, normally due to dependency
[00:02] <tsilalah> i'm probably wrong, i see there are several half-install but it actually successful
[00:03] <kerry> hello
[00:03] <kerry> where do i find the deb's files on my pc
[00:03] <kerry> ?
[00:04] <tsilalah> CrocoJet: the way i see it half-install exactly means that (half install) if there is another line which says installed than it is done
[00:04] <nosrednaekim> kerry: /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:07] <kerry> nosrednaekim: ...i download from adept but what i download not there
[00:08] <nosrednaekim> kerry: you need to tell adept to keep all downloaded packages.
[00:08] <kerry> nosrednaekim: how?
[00:11] <endofnite> guys is it possible to run different wallpapers from a compiz cube in kubuntu?
[00:11] <CrocoJet> back
[00:11] <CrocoJet> tsilalah, and why is half-installed ?
[00:11] <CrocoJet> (lol)
[00:12] <nosrednaekim> kerry: edit your /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove file.
[00:12] <Hua_Zhuang> Hello, my name is Hua Zhuang.
[00:13] <CrocoJet> hi Hua Zhuang
[00:13] <nosrednaekim> hello
[00:13] <julian_> bggfg
[00:14] <kerry> nosrednaekim: how
[00:14] <Hua_Zhuang> After much Feng shui deliberation, I have chosen Kubuntu as I think it will bring me closer to the monetary prominence of Western people. I find the philosophy behind Ubuntu to be compatible with my Feng shui discipline that I abscribe to.
[00:14] <tsilalah> if it is half-installed but no line that says installed, that means the installation breaks in the middle, could be because of dependency
[00:14] <CrocoJet> Hua_Zhuang, what ????
[00:15] <Hua_Zhuang> It is my hope that Kubuntu will be as good as Ubuntu at maximizing (American spelling) Qi (flow of energy).
[00:15] <CrocoJet> "bring me closer to the monetary prominence of Western people" .. you are kidding
[00:15] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[00:15] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[00:15] <Hua_Zhuang> :(
[00:15] <LjL> nosrednaekim: what?
[00:15] <Hua_Zhuang> I am not a troll. :\
[00:15]  * endofnite bows to Huas enlightened wisdom
[00:15] <LjL> uuuh
[00:15] <PriceChild> Hua_Zhuang, noone suggested as such.
[00:16] <nosrednaekim> LjL.... Hua_Zhuang....
[00:16] <CrocoJet> Hua_Zhuang, where are you from ?
[00:16] <CrocoJet> China ?
[00:16] <PriceChild> !offtopic | CrocoJet
[00:16] <LjL> !ot
[00:16] <ubotu> CrocoJet: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:16] <nosrednaekim> PriceChild: guilty concience :D
[00:16] <Hua_Zhuang> I am from The People's Republic.
[00:16] <shinkamui> this is a damn shame
[00:16] <shinkamui> I almost got kubuntu working perfectly with my UX280
[00:16] <Hua_Zhuang> I emmigrated away to seek American/Western benefits.
[00:16] <nosrednaekim> shinkamui: and what is that?
[00:16] <LjL> !ot | 2
[00:16] <ubotu> 2: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:16] <Hua_Zhuang> Yes.
[00:17] <shinkamui> but since I can't get the dualpoint stick to stop clickdragging, Its not useable
[00:17] <shinkamui> :(
[00:17] <Hua_Zhuang> What is UX280?
[00:19] <Hua_Zhuang> CrocoJet: Yes.
[00:20] <Flare183> !language
[00:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:20] <CrocoJet> !language
[00:20] <Hua_Zhuang> I need a window manager that maximizes the Feng shui compatibility (essential Qi)
[00:21] <nalioth> 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[00:21] <Hua_Zhuang> Language?
[00:21] <Hua_Zhuang> CrocoJet: Feng shui (sorry to be offtopic) is a discipline/guidlines of how to live.
[00:23] <skyfalcon866> why do i get this
[00:23] <skyfalcon866> libqt4-dev:
[00:23] <skyfalcon866>   Depends: libqt4-core (=4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[00:23] <skyfalcon866>   Depends: libqt4-gui (=4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[00:23] <ScorpKing> !paste > skyfalcon866
[00:24] <endofnite> guys is it possible to run different wallpapers from a compiz cube in kubuntu?
[00:24] <NickPresta> endofnite, if you don't get an answer here, #compiz-fusion should be able to help.
[00:24] <Hua_Zhuang> endofnite: I want a Feng shui wallpaper.
[00:24] <endofnite> I have stumped them there :P
[00:24] <endofnite> they are answering for gnome but I prefer kde :P
[00:24] <endofnite> I already have a workaround for gnome
[00:25] <NickPresta> endofnite, you want a different wallpaper for each cube face?
[00:25] <endofnite> correct
[00:25] <NickPresta> Are we talking about the Cube Cap or each virtual "desktop" have it's own background? I am pretty sure the former is possible in CF. It was in Beryl
[00:27] <endofnite> well I know in kde each virtual desktop can have its own background
[00:27] <endofnite> but I can't get the cube to have different backgrounds
[00:27] <NickPresta> endofnite, what about adding Background Images to the "Background Images" section in the Desktop Cube setting area?
[00:27] <eVipere> Does anyone know how to remove a device from an mdadm array, when the device is not physically present?
[00:28] <endofnite> where is that area nick
[00:29] <NickPresta> endofnite, in the main settings area (listing all the various plugins) click on Desktop Cube. Then click on Appearance
[00:30] <eVipere> :(  No one has mdadm experience then
[00:30] <pteague> how much experience?
[00:31] <eVipere> Enough to tell me how to remove a device from the md array
[00:31] <endofnite> nick: I don't have that option in my version which is gutsy native
[00:31] <eVipere> even if the device is not physically attached to the PC anymore.
[00:32] <endofnite> your filter "appearance does not match any items
[00:32] <compbrain> endofnite: mdadm remove or the like?
[00:32] <wii> stdin:  :O
[00:32] <wii> Tm_T: :O
[00:32] <compbrain> er, eVipere same answer
[00:33] <NickPresta> endofnite, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/compizcube
[00:33] <wii> T_T
[00:33] <eVipere> remove would be my guess too, but /dev/sda1 doesn't exist, as the drive spazzes the whole sytem when attached.
[00:33] <LjL> wii: :D :D :D :D
[00:33] <compbrain> eVipere: mdadm --set-faulty perhaps
[00:33] <eVipere> So mdadm --remove /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 doesn't work.
[00:34] <eVipere> --set-faulty doesn't work, it keeps complaining about cannot find device.
[00:34] <endofnite> yup nick you have different version
[00:34] <endofnite> of ccsm
[00:34] <endofnite> what version is that perchance
[00:35] <endofnite> mine is ccsm-0.5.2.
[00:35] <NickPresta> endofnite, $ compiz --version: compiz 0.6.3
[00:35] <endofnite> damn you are happening
[00:35] <endofnite> lolz
[00:35] <compbrain> eVipere: What does mdadm think about itself, (ie, mdadm --examine)
[00:35] <endofnite> tried compiling that yesterday with errors
[00:36] <endofnite> maybe you can help me with those lolz :P
[00:36] <compbrain> rather, --detail
[00:36] <eVipere> Just No Superblock found for --examine.
[00:36] <Hua_Zhuang> #@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null
[00:36] <eVipere> Oh, for detail, it gives a listing of 1 clean, degraded.  1 device present, 1 removed.
[00:36] <Hua_Zhuang> Stupid onscreen keyboard.
[00:37] <pteague> so when is kubuntu gutsy going to be ready?
[00:37] <endofnite> it is ready
[00:37] <endofnite> im running it
[00:37] <endofnite> lolz
[00:37] <NickPresta> endofnite, i got that version of compiz from the repos. I only have Opera, backports, *verse and Canonical repos. It should be in there
[00:37] <endofnite> really
[00:37] <sp3c> I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on my laptop.  Everything was alright, until I installed the nvidia driver from nvidia.  I didn't like it..  so tried to unistall it... that didn't go well, driver didn't clean itself up well.  So eventually I got rid of it... but I think I ended up doing a fresh kernel module install (not exactly sure what I did). Anyways, I lost some of my kernel modules..  vmware, soundcard, wireless card..   I got vmware back..
[00:37] <sp3c> pt I could run to get back all the other drivers ?   i.e. like right after I did my install ?
[00:37] <NickPresta> pteague, kubuntu gutsy is ready
[00:37] <Hua_Zhuang> # ?????????????????????
[00:37] <Hua_Zhuang> # ?????????????????????
[00:37] <Hua_Zhuang> # ???????????????????
[00:37] <Hua_Zhuang> # ???????????????????
[00:37] <endofnite> can you give me a screenie of your repos
[00:38] <endofnite> nick please
[00:38] <Hua_Zhuang> hmm
[00:38] <Hua_Zhuang> Not working.
[00:38] <compbrain> eVipere: Out of curiosity, why are you wanting to remove the device, I assume eventually you will add it back?
[00:38] <endofnite> I wonder if it's the verse
[00:38] <endofnite> don't think I have the verse
[00:38] <eVipere> compbrain: When I get another drive, yeah, but I would like to get this system functional on just the 1 for the time being.
[00:39] <pteague> NickPresta> k, was just going through the gutsyupgrades page on help.ubuntu.com & it says "when kubuntu 7.10 is officially released..."
[00:39] <NickPresta> endofnite, i can upload my sources.list for you. hold one moment
[00:39] <endofnite> awesome danke sehr :)
[00:42] <NickPresta> endofnite, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/sources.list.txt
[00:43] <endofnite> thanks so much sir
[00:44] <shadowhywind> Hay all when i tried to do an upgrade yesterday apt said it couldn't. and now when ever itry to do apt or apt-get update i get Encountered a section with no Package: header Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[00:45] <fungos> I just installed 7.10 and nvidia drivers. but my X gives error API mismatch.. what should I install to it work?
[00:46] <shadowhywind> you need to remove nv from the restricted modules, let me see if i can find my directions
[00:47] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: run a apt-get update
[00:47] <fungos> I used that new restricted modules manager to install the nvidia driver
[00:47] <shadowhywind> fungos edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules you should see a DISABLED_MODULES="" change it DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[00:47] <shadowhywind> nosrednaekim i get that error when i run apt-get update
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> shadowhywind: bad mirror?
[00:48] <shadowhywind> no clue, in the middle of the update it said that it had to stop or it would do bad things
[00:49] <ardchoille> Why would nv be in restricted modules? Isn't it installed with the system?
[00:49] <shadowhywind> There are two version of the nvidia drives the ones that comes preinstalled and one that you can download from the repo's/nvidia website.
[00:50] <fungos> and I need to uninstall and install again nvidia?
[00:50] <shadowhywind> the one that comes preinstalled doesn't do opengl *to my knowledge*
[00:50] <ardchoille> shadowhywind: Oh, ok, I thought that was the diff between "nv" and "nvidia". My bad.
[00:50] <shadowhywind> have you installed the repo version or the website?
[00:50] <ardchoille> shadowhywind: Right, you need nvidia for OpenGL
[00:50] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: I think it is..
[00:50] <shadowhywind> there is a difference between nv and nvidia, nv i believe is the preinstalled version
[00:51] <ardchoille> shadowhywind: I simply did: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nlvidia-glx-config enable
[00:51] <ardchoille> And they were ready to go
[00:51] <fungos> shadowhywind: I dont know which I installed. It was using restricted-manager-kde
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> fungos: did you try any other methods for installing the nvidia drivers previously?
[00:51] <fungos> no, It worked with 7.04.. but 7.10 just hangs
[00:52] <ardchoille> fungos: restricted-manager installs nvidia, the nv driver ships with kubuntu
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> fungos: what worked with 7.04, and what hangs in 7.10
[00:52] <ardchoille> I bet it's that restricted-manager
[00:52] <shadowhywind> also my problem is apparently my apt's cache is too small to handle all of the packages
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: I have NEVER heard of a problem with restricted-manager.
[00:53] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: I've seen many bugs caused by it
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> ussually its got to do with automatix or such
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: really?hmm
[00:54] <ardchoille> fungos: You didn't use automatix did you?
[00:54] <nosrednaekim> not going to say you are wrong..
[00:54] <awag> anyone know any good channels for help with java programming?
[00:55] <fungos> API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel modules has the version 1.0-9631, but this X modules has the version 1.0-9639. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[00:55] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Reading the bugs is what prompted me to use the cli install method instead of the restricted-manager. Worked great in cli, but the restricted-manager caused problems on 8 of my boxes
[00:55] <fungos> ardchoille: nope
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> fungos: open up adept and search for "nvidia" and tell us which ones are installed
[00:57] <fungos> nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common only
[00:57] <Tailsfan> Hello, Does Kubuntu come with the packages needed to install opera
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> Tailsfan: yes, it should
[00:58] <Tailsfan> OK
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> Tailsfan: at least they are in the repositories
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> fungos: ok
[00:59] <Tailsfan> Yeah, but I can't use Konqueror to access my net
[00:59] <Tailsfan> Earthlink has a prob with Konqueror
[00:59] <fungos> another box with nvidia here, has only nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common ... I will try that
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> fungos: worth a shot I guess.
[01:01] <sp3c> Fungos, I had that same issue.. after installing nvidia's driver.. then trying to remove, and go back to the driver provided by kubuntu
[01:01] <sp3c> I eventually fixed it...   but I think I ended up replacing my Kernel modules.. cause drivers for my wireless card and sound card are now missing
[01:02] <sp3c> which is why I am here, is there some script I can run, to autodetect what drivers I need, and get the installed...   i.e. like the installer did ?
[01:02] <fungos> Ok, im trying nvidia-glx-new now..  then I try to uninstall it .. I really think that there is missing something with the kernel.. or kernel-headers or kernel-sources .. dont know
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> fungos: I'm not an nvidia user... sorry..
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> sp3c: should automatically happen.
[01:04] <ardchoille> fungos: Try this to see if the modules are installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` | grep -i installed
[01:04] <sp3c> nosrednaekim...  Yeah..   I did something bad...  alsa shows no sound devices
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> sp3c: install an older kernel
[01:05] <fungos> just show: 2.6.20.5-15.20
[01:05] <sp3c> I believe the kernel I am at, was working fine..  before my little nvidia adventure... 2.6.22-14
[01:05] <fungos> the other box mine has kernel 2.6.22.14-generic
[01:05] <ardchoille> fungos: Ok, that's what I was wondering
[01:06] <fungos> should I update the kernel?
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> fungos: yeah... install the -14 kernel
[01:06] <sp3c> if I try to reinstall my kernel..  would that help ?
[01:06] <Tailsfan> Is there anyway to get opera for Kubuntu while on Windows
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> Tailsfan: download the static binary from the OPera site
[01:07] <endofnite> NickPresta: you still there?
[01:08] <endofnite> are you running 386?
[01:08] <NickPresta> endofnite, yes, to both
[01:08] <endofnite> hmm cos all I got upgraded with your repos is wine
[01:08] <endofnite> :/
[01:08] <NickPresta> endofnite, how did you check the version for ccsm?
[01:08] <endofnite> probably they don't have builds im guessing for my amd64
[01:09] <endofnite> did an slocate
[01:09] <endofnite> updatedb &
[01:09] <endofnite> then sudo slocate
[01:09] <endofnite> if you are unfamiliar with that
[01:09] <fungos> weird .. 2.6.22 alredy is installed.. maybe grub isnt updated
[01:10] <endofnite> im sure there are other ways
[01:11] <NickPresta> endofnite, I know how to get ccsm. I'm asking how you found the version. Clicking on "about ccsm" inside the manager doesn't reveal the version number
[01:13] <the-erm> I just updated firefox today, and a few other things ... something is seriously wrong with it.
[01:14] <NickPresta> endofnite, nevermind. I checked the python files. I have ccsm version 0.5.2.
[01:14] <endofnite> not according to your screenshot
[01:14] <endofnite> or wait
[01:14] <endofnite> you said you had
[01:14] <endofnite> endofnite, $ compiz --version: compiz 0.6.3
[01:15] <endofnite> hmm
[01:15] <endofnite> my version says the same
[01:15] <endofnite> and the same ccsm
[01:17] <NickPresta> endofnite, hmm. I don't know what to tell you. You had the Desktop Cube setting area, don't you?
[01:17] <endofnite> sigh I sure do
[01:18]  * endofnite slaps himself repeatedly with a wet penguin
[01:18] <NickPresta> endofnite, open that area and click on Appearance :)
[01:18] <endofnite> ya im looking at it
[01:18] <endofnite> at least you helped me update wine \0/
[01:18] <fungos> now it cant finde nvidia.ko !
[01:20] <fungos> error: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko no such file.
[01:20] <crimsun> install the relevant l-r-m package
[01:31] <rakyr> what's the best password manager?  is kwalletmanager ok?  i guess the only way to know is to try to crack my own password with some software
[01:35] <SpookyET> hi
[01:35] <SpookyET> I'm trying to setup my partitions. I have a 100GB hard drive. / 200MiB  /boot 100 MiB  /swap 3GiB /var 2GiB /tmp 2 GiB /usr 10 GiB /home 75.87 GiB   How are those numbers?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> SpookyET: you really don't need all of those partitions
[01:36] <nosrednaekim>  /home /  swap and /var are ussually good enough
[01:38] <jembouge> Hi there!
[01:38] <jembouge> good morning (2.40am at my place)
[01:38] <jembouge> is anybody here?
[01:38] <SR-latch> 3:38 here :)
[01:39] <r0y4l> any ideas why my openoffice isn't starting? "WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..."
[01:39] <jembouge> just a question I was just wondering :
[01:40] <jembouge> I just mounted an external hard drive
[01:40] <jembouge> and I changed the owner of its files to.. say "lambda"
[01:40] <jembouge> question is :
[01:40] <adamonline45> Hi.  What do I have to do to access windows shares?
[01:40] <jembouge> files in konqueror are still said to be owned by root
[01:41] <jembouge> although the "lambda" user can do anything to them
[01:41] <jembouge> any idea how it works?  (I mean it's all fine in my case, that's what I wanted, but just wondering why it says root and not lambda)
[01:42] <jembouge> admonline45: to access
[01:42] <SR-latch> chown maybe?
[01:42] <SR-latch> not sure
[01:42] <jembouge> nothing if you've just installed kubuntu
[01:43] <jembouge> type in your file browser "smb://xxx.xx.xxx.xx"
[01:43] <kgx> anyone here from the UK? any ideas how what income tax rate do expats pay? couldnt find it on the hmrc website
[01:43] <jembouge> where xxx.xx.xxx.xx is an IP address of the computer you want to get your file from
[01:43] <refreshrate> anybody have a crt monitor and cant get their refresh rate to set with nvidia driver?
[01:44] <jembouge> SR-latch : that's what I did to have the owner changed to lambda
[01:45] <jembouge> now lambda can use it as if it were its own files
[01:45] <jembouge> however, these files are still marked to be owned by root
[01:45] <adamonline45> jembouge: Is that for me?  I'll give that a shot; but what do I ahve to do to see it in Dolphin?
 have you tried changing group access also?
[01:47] <jembouge> adamonline45: yes, for you :)
[01:48] <jembouge> adamonline45: I don't know much about dolphin, I don't like the interface
[01:48] <jembouge> adamonline45: but maybe you could just create a bookmark or something
[01:48] <jembouge> adamonline45: there's probably a way to have your remote computer shown in the left list (if my memory serves)
[01:49] <jembouge> adamonline45 : just by dragging something to it
[01:49] <SR-latch> yes there is one called network
[01:49] <jembouge> SR-latch: no, should I ?
 i am not sure but things could be messed up if for example the user belong to adiffrent group than the one owning the file if my memory serves me well
[01:51] <jembouge> SR-latch: well I've just tried, hasn't changed anything.
 hmmm
[01:52] <jembouge> SR-latch: but that's fine.... you know what? I haven't even thought about the rwx stuff! Let's give it a look...
[01:53] <jembouge> yah, it says it's root, but anyone can do anything
[01:53] <jembouge> ...
[01:53] <jembouge> not sure that's good :p
 weird
 and dangerous i would add
[01:53] <jembouge> indeed... by chance this is only my stuff at home, and not some work computer
[01:55] <Tailsfan> Hello, Is it true that Kubuntu Kills Laptpo Batteries?
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> Tailsfan: no
[01:55] <NickPresta> Tailsfan, I don't think so. I usually get better battery life when in "Laptop Mode" in Kubuntu versus XP
 if you ls -al in the folder what is the result?
[01:56] <Tailsfan> how do I enable laptop mode? or is it enabled automatically?
[01:56] <jembouge> Tailsfan: mine works longer with kubuntu than it used to before... but for only 5 minutes approximately :D
[01:56] <jembouge> (I had winXP before)
[01:56] <Tailsfan> I have XP now
 the last 3 specifically
[01:57] <Tailsfan> I'm using the Live CD right now
[01:57] <jembouge> SR-latch: trying it now...
[01:58] <NickPresta> Tailsfan, in System Settings, you should have a Power Control module, I believe. It should look like this: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/images/C/kubuntu-powercontrol-laptopbattery.png
[01:58] <Tailsfan> I'm actually trying to get recordmydesktop right now
[01:58] <adamonline45> In Dolphin, I click Samba shares and I can see mshome, but when I click on mshome it says 'loading directory, 0%' at the bottom, and it's not doing anything.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[02:00] <jembouge> SR-latch: all is root, and it returns the RECYCLER and System Volume Information (XP stuff, that's NTFS stuff I forgot to tell)
[02:01] <Radio01> My new look.  file:///home/johnny/snapshot1.png
[02:01] <jembouge> Radio01: not sure we'll be able to see it :p
[02:01] <adamonline45> Radio01: Is that supposed to be a link?
[02:02] <Radio01> I think..
[02:02] <jembouge> adamonline45: talking about Radio01's address, yes, but that's a "local" address
[02:02] <NickPresta> Radio01, "The file or folder /home/johnny/snapshot1.png does not exist." =D You have to upload it somewhere.
 maybe its something with NTFS i am not sure
[02:02] <Radio01> ah ok
[02:02] <Tailsfan> Has anyone had any luck Running WoW in Kubuntu?
[02:03] <jembouge> Tailsfan, never tried
 with wine
[02:03] <Radio01> i thought it attatchment   guess not
 its possible
 but has a lower framerate
[02:04] <jembouge> is wine good enough to do that now? Well it certainly improved since last time I heard of it then... good job developpers
 yup its very good right now :)
[02:04]  * Tailsfan wishes Kubuntu comes with games
[02:05] <NickPresta> Tailsfan, they're only a "sudo apt-get install" away :)
 yup its very good right now :)
[02:05] <jembouge> SR-latch: I think that's the thing too...
[02:05] <jembouge> * thinks Tailsfan will have to install Kubuntu to play games :p
[02:06] <Tailsfan> I know
 id software has a linux installer for quake wars
 though you still got to buy the game ;)
[02:07] <jembouge> SR-latch: yet I somehow feel reluctant about using it (wine). I believe we have all we need already without needing windows software
[02:07] <Tailsfan> Yeah, but I play WoW, not ET: QW
 i know, it sucks badly that most software houses built their games in windows
 they rarely port them to linux
[02:08] <NickPresta> Tailsfan, you could always ask Blizzard to allow us to make binary versions of WoW for mass distribution to users of the APT/DPKG system :)
[02:09] <Tailsfan> True
[02:09] <Tailsfan> WoW and BC are Win/Mac only
[02:09] <SR-latch> hahahhahaha
[02:09] <jembouge> SR-latch: yeah I saw it all (QuakeWars and others), I went through a lot of the games to test and see what is done today, and was well surprised in fact
[02:09] <SR-latch> sudo apt-get wow!
[02:09] <Tailsfan> Believe me I know, I have the Battle Chest from it
[02:09] <jembouge> unfortunately my damn old computer's not so good at graphics
[02:09] <Tailsfan> Nor is mine apparently
[02:09] <SR-latch> same here
[02:10] <Tailsfan> I had to set all graphics to low
[02:10] <Tailsfan> and it run around 30-50 fps
[02:10]  * Tailsfan also hates Earthlink
[02:10] <jembouge> all I play now is Frozen Bubble :D
[02:10] <SR-latch> hehehhehe
[02:11] <Tailsfan> Frozen Bubble = Bubble Bobble
[02:11] <SR-latch> gotta go to sleep guys
[02:11] <Tailsfan> I lik ethat game
[02:11] <jembouge> lol
[02:11] <SR-latch> 4:11 here :)
[02:11] <SR-latch> gnite
[02:11] <Tailsfan> Night *gives him a night cap*
[02:11] <jembouge> me too, 3h11 here
[02:11] <jembouge> cheers
[02:11] <SR-latch> wanking
[02:12] <jembouge> OMG!!!!   milfhunter :D
[02:12] <Tailsfan> Earthlink's Internet at nights s**k
[02:12] <jembouge> what's Earthlink?
[02:12] <jembouge> an ISP ?
[02:13] <Tailsfan> Yeah
[02:13] <jembouge> where do you live?
[02:13] <Tailsfan> I also got my Kubuntu Shipit CDs today
[02:13] <Tailsfan> I ordered 1 PC 32-Bit and 1 PC 64-Bit
[02:13] <jembouge> good for the CDs, how long to come?
[02:13] <Tailsfan> I think about 4 weeks
[02:14] <jembouge> that's what's written on the website, was it true for you?
[02:14] <jembouge> tonight I've been trying to install kubuntu on a friend's box, but his machine couldn't read burned cds....
[02:15] <jembouge> just a shame, he's so disappointed
[02:15] <jembouge> he has noone else to install it on his box, and we don't meet often (every other month :p  )
[02:15] <jembouge> well, leaving now
[02:16] <jembouge> have all good times with Kubuntu :D
[02:16] <jembouge> good night!
[02:16] <adamonline45> Can we KDErs use avant window navigator?
[02:19]  * genii makes a new pot of coffee for all the caffeine addicts
[02:21] <Kr4t05> Okay... I'm having trouble getting a Windows-shared printer to show up in the Printer Wizard.
[02:21] <Kr4t05> The printer is shared from a Windows XP system, which should be configured properly, (as I configured it myself).
[02:21] <Kr4t05> But, It doesn't show up, (the computer itself doesn't even show up).
[02:22] <Kr4t05> I've tried the Guest account, Anonymous, and the root account for the remote system.
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, the guest acct is usually the one that works , however go to the windows pc and check on the printer driver in printer properties and use that name for the printer
[02:26] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: Yeah, I did that.
[02:27] <BluesKaj> in the linux printer wizard ...setup samba too
[02:27] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: I've never had to "set up" samba before. The defaults usually worked fine.
[02:34] <Kr4t05> So, I set up the printer using the information from the Windows machine.
[02:34] <Kr4t05> I sent it a job, and in the System Setttings window, it says "Processing"
[02:34] <michael_> shalom folks
[02:34] <Kr4t05> Oh, now it says "Held"
[02:37] <rudd-o> hello gents, quick question: how do I get a device which normally does NOT SHOW up on the media:/ kioslave, to show up there so the user can mount unmount and the dialog box of device insertion appears?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, samba will open the line to the pc and see it , then cups will see it as well when you run the printer wizard
[02:38] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: Well, obviously.
[02:38] <Kr4t05> It's worked before, in Fiesty, Edgy and Dapper.
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, does the pc workgroup show up if you type smb:/ in the konq addressbar ?
[02:39] <Kr4t05> Yes.
[02:40] <Kr4t05> MSHOME shows up.
[02:40] <Kr4t05> Should I click it?
[02:41] <Kr4t05> I click it: Timeout on server MSHOME
[02:41] <Kr4t05> As if anyone here would care, I'm honestly expecting someone to tell me to install Ubuntu on the other system. >>
[02:42] <Radio01> ya get a new drive..
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, and you've shared the printer on the windows pc ?...sorry if I'm stating the obvious but I'm just trying to cover all the bases
[02:43] <Radio01> Ok, who's taking me to dinner?
[02:43] <BluesKaj> and make sure the windows pc is booted up
[02:43] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: Yep.
[02:43] <Kr4t05> Yes.
[02:44] <BluesKaj> but you don't see a workgroup?
[02:44] <BluesKaj> with the linux pc
[02:44] <Kr4t05> I see a workgroup, but if I click it, it errors out.
[02:44] <Kr4t05> And says something about timing out.
[02:45] <BluesKaj> my setup shows a workgroup and mshome in konq
[02:45] <Kr4t05> my setup show mshome, and nothing else.
[02:45] <Kr4t05> "MSHOME" is the workgroup.
[02:45] <LimCore> how to set which user can use su or sudo with OWN password to become root
[02:46] <BluesKaj> timing out , that's cuz it's looking but can't find the windows pc
[02:46] <Kr4t05> LimCore: Add the user to the sudo/sudoers group. (Not sure which.)
[02:46] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: Yeah.
[02:46] <Kr4t05> Which doesn't make sense.
[02:47] <Kr4t05> Because the Windows PC is on a configured to share the printer.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> can the windows pc see your linuxbox?
[02:47] <Kr4t05> Dunno, I don't have anything shared on this machine.
[02:48] <BluesKaj> ok
[02:49] <dmcglone> hiya all
[02:49] <NickPresta> hi, dmcglone
[02:49] <dmcglone> hey Nick
[02:49] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, did you setup the foomatic or whatever driver in the wizard , sometimes ppl forget that step
[02:49] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: Yes, I did.
[02:50] <BluesKaj> pk
[02:50] <BluesKaj> ok
[02:50] <Kr4t05> It's a Lexmark z600
[02:50] <Kr4t05> The driver for which I installed already.
[02:50] <dmcglone> Lexmark. ewwww
[02:50] <dmcglone> I never h
[02:50] <dmcglone> > _______________________________________________
[02:50] <dmcglone> > colug432 mailing list colug432@colug.net
[02:50] <dmcglone> > http://www.colug.net/mailman/listinfo/colug432
[02:50] <dmcglone> oops
[02:50] <Kr4t05> Nice.
[02:50] <dmcglone> I never had luck with lexmark printers
[02:50] <BluesKaj> hmm lexmarks are notoriously undersupported on linux
[02:51] <Kr4t05> Well, there are drivers, they were RPMs, which had to be converted to debs in the goofiest way possible.
[02:51] <Kr4t05> But, it worked in Fiesty.
[02:51] <adamonline45> Does anyone here have Avant working under KDE?  I just want to know if it's possible/not too painstaking...
[02:51] <Kr4t05> Perhaps this is just another one of those notorious "upgrade hazards?"
[02:51] <dmcglone> I'm suprised you got a lexmark to work
[02:52] <Kr4t05> adamonline45: If you don't mind messing with a metric butt-ton of GTK libs, yes, it does work.
[02:52] <BluesKaj> so did you run alien in gutsy to "make" the driver
[02:52] <Kr4t05> BluesKaj: No, It's a longer process.
[02:52] <Kr4t05> Oh, wait. No...
[02:52] <Kr4t05> It's a tar.gz that has RPMs inside, that are converted with alien.
[02:53] <BluesKaj> wow
[02:53] <Kr4t05> So, let me convert them in Gutsy.
[02:53] <Kr4t05> Because, the DEBs I have now are ones I converted in Fiesty.
[02:53] <Kr4t05> But, then again...
[02:53] <Kr4t05> I don't see why that would be the problem.
[02:54] <adamonline45> Kr4t05: Ooh, yeah... That's what I figured...  Are there any KDE-based apps like that that you know of?
[02:54] <Kr4t05> Kiba-dock
[02:54] <Kr4t05> It works about the same as Avant.
[02:54] <Kr4t05> Some plusses, some minuses.
[02:55] <Kr4t05> I used Kiba for the longest time, I only recently switched to Avant
[02:55] <dmcglone> !kiba-dock
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <dmcglone> !avant
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <BluesKaj> Kr4t05, it's odd but i had some hardware probs with x86 32bit gutsy , but when I decided on 64bit , the hardware probs , disappeared ....so far anyway :)
[02:55] <crackhead_25> question: i can't get my hp 3550 printer to work with kubuntu. anyone help?
[02:55] <crackhead_25> it's plugged in. test page produces a blank page.
[02:56] <dmcglone> have you installed the hpijs print drivers crackhead?
[02:56] <crackhead_25> dmcglone: yeah hpijs is installed
[02:56] <crackhead_25> it once printed a while back. then it stopped working somewhat unexpectedly one day. i dont knwo why
[02:57] <dmcglone> Ah well do you get any errors or anything?
[02:57] <crackhead_25> nope
[02:57] <dmcglone> judging by your name i'll ask, is the printer on? LOL
[02:57] <BluesKaj> crackhead_25, run the print wizard again ...the HP's are the most supported printers on kubuntu
[02:58] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: where do i find the print wizard?
[02:58] <crackhead_25> is there a commandline?
[02:58] <dmcglone> need to make sure your not halucinating
[02:58] <dmcglone> LOL
[02:59] <BluesKaj> in system settings/printers/addprinter/class
[03:02] <navetz> how do i download opera
[03:02] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: im running the wizard. let you know results ina  min
[03:02] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: the wizard setup appears to be working. im having success with a test print page.
[03:02] <niklauz> what does a person who broke his dpkg do?
[03:03] <crackhead_25> let's see. hopefully it ifnishes fine.
[03:03] <BluesKaj> crackhead_25, good
[03:03] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj:  if this works, you rock! you too dmc! :)
[03:04] <niklauz> !util-linux
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about util-linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <niklauz> !linux32
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <BluesKaj> !x86
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x86 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <crackhead_25> awesome.. i think it worked.. ok,
[03:06] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: i have a second problem now.. maybe you will know how to fix..
[03:06] <crackhead_25> i have an external lacie hd, which will not mount.. it was mounting a while back, then suddenly stopped working one day too!
[03:06] <crackhead_25> i know it has content and data on it, but it only shows up as an empty folder in the file explorer
[03:07] <BluesKaj> crackhead_25, ntfs file system ?
[03:08] <crackhead_25> yes, i think it is ntfs files system
[03:08] <kbrown> hey
[03:08] <crackhead_25> i put ntfs-3g on, so that i could read/write to it
[03:08] <crackhead_25> and it was working for a while.. then one day it just stopped..d otn know why..
[03:08] <kbrown> oh  mine
[03:08] <kbrown> this place is Damn good
[03:08] <BluesKaj> crackhead_25, i would also try ntfs-config
[03:09] <crackhead_25> run that in a command line? and then what?
[03:09] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: can you open a private chat room or something with me ehre? it's easier to follow? can that happen with konversation here?
[03:10] <BluesKaj>  ntfs-config will give you read write permissions on the ntfs drive
[03:10] <BluesKaj> but it resides in the kmenu , it's aGUI
[03:11] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: im not seeing it in the kmen
[03:12] <BluesKaj> however, i' havent had any reason to use it on my setup , it may be redundant
[03:12] <BluesKaj> you have to install it with adept or apt
[03:14] <scooter_> how do i navigate to a directory in konsole
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> cd
[03:14] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: installed ntfs-config.. enabled write for both internal and external.. i dont think that has any effect on things..
[03:14] <scooter_> yea but like
[03:14] <crackhead_25> i had write capability before..
[03:14] <scooter_> i dont know how to go pasat cd /home
[03:14] <crackhead_25> i just can't see the external hd data now..
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> cd /home/yourname/somedir
[03:15] <jmichaelx> is there any wireless adaptor that consistantly works well in *ubuntu? if there is, i sure have not found it yet.
[03:16] <bazhang> jmichaelx: intel
[03:16] <BluesKaj> crackhead_25, yeah, it's a GUI for ntfs-3g
[03:16] <scooter_> another problem
[03:17] <jmichaelx> bazhang: but you can't just go out and buy an intel adaptor, can you?
[03:17] <scooter_> im trying to download that flashplayer thiing
[03:17] <scooter_> and it keeps saying "package not found"
[03:17] <bazhang> jmichaelx: gutsy?
[03:17] <scooter_> but im in the directory
[03:17] <crackhead_25> BluesKaj: i installed and used it. it hasnt had any effect. it's only got two controls, it seems. two radio boxes to enable or disenable write support for internal and external drives..
[03:17] <jmichaelx> bazhang: huh?
[03:18] <bazhang> jmichaelx: gutsy, feisty, dapper which version of kubuntu
[03:18] <jmichaelx> bazhang: ahh, sorry. i am in gutsy, unfortunately
[03:18]  * genii sips a coffee and thinks about bitlocker
[03:19] <bazhang> jmichaelx: which card do you have/or adaptor
[03:19] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i had much better luck in feisty
[03:19] <BluesKaj> genii, can you add any suggestions to crackhead_25's problem with read/write to an external HDD
[03:19] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i had a bcm43xx.... but had a lot of problems, so i pulled it and replaced it with an rt2500 based card
[03:20] <genii> BluesKaj: Consider me an observer tonight :)
[03:20] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[03:20] <bazhang> jmichaelx: that would be more problems imo; the bcm are so widespread that they are well supported in gutsy now
[03:21] <bazhang> genii: flood averted?
[03:21] <crackhead_25> genii: i'd love your help.. this is a really stubborn problem
[03:21] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i could switch back... but with open source drivers, the speed for a bcm43xx card had been limited to 11Mbps... maybe that has changed
[03:21] <genii> bazhang: No, water was ankle deep. But I shutoff the main water supply and repaired the pipes etc. Huge mess
[03:22] <bazhang> genii: sorry to hear it--hope things are cleared up soon
[03:22] <jmichaelx> bazhang: rt2500 is generall well-supported in linux (at least that has been my impression)
[03:22] <genii> crackhead_25: OK, as I understand.. your external ntfs drive ... you can see it but not write?
[03:22] <crackhead_25> no, i can't see it -- just an empty folder now
[03:22] <genii> BluesKaj: So much for observation
[03:22] <bazhang> jmichaelx: atheros has the best imo cards--the ralink cards are open source but poorly designed
[03:23] <BluesKaj> sorry genii  : (
[03:23] <genii> crackhead_25: What drive did it appear before eg: /dev/sdb1 or such, not /media name
[03:23] <bazhang> jmichaelx: is this an external usb adapter? or a pcmcia card or internal one
[03:23] <genii> BluesKaj: It's Ok I'm just bushed
[03:24] <crackhead_25> i think it was /dev/sdb1.. though i actually never saw it in /etc/config
[03:24] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i have thought about buying an atheros mini-pci card.. but was worried as i have a desktop with a pci atheros card.. and it, too had problems with kubuntu... i switched to slackware on that box and have had no more issues
[03:24] <jmichaelx> bazhang: th ert2500 is mini-pci
[03:24] <BluesKaj> genii, din't realize you had plumbing probs ...that makes it hard to concentrate :(
[03:24] <jmichaelx> the rt2500*
[03:24] <bazhang> jmichaelx: that is pci-e?
[03:25] <genii> BluesKaj: At work, at home now but tired :)
[03:25] <genii> crackhead_25: You familiar with pastebin?
[03:25] <jmichaelx> is there such a thing as mini-pcie?
[03:25] <crackhead_25> yeah
[03:25] <crackhead_25> ill put up the etc/config..
[03:25] <crackhead_25> shall i?
[03:25] <genii> crackhead_25: No
[03:26] <bazhang> jmichaelx: I thought it was a very small card, smalller than pcmcia card even
[03:26] <genii> crackhead_25: Please pastebin results of:  sudo fdisk -l      and also /etc/fstab   also result of command: mount
[03:26] <crackhead_25> fstab i mean
[03:26] <crackhead_25> yeah
[03:26] <crackhead_25> k
[03:26] <jmichaelx> bazhang: mini-pci is not the same as pcmcia... mini-pci cards are used in many laptops
[03:27] <bazhang> jmichaelx: so it is internal then?
[03:27] <jmichaelx> mini-pci cards are installed inside the laptop... yes, it is internal
[03:27] <crackhead_25> genii: http://pastebin.ca/807006  -- sudo fdisk
[03:28] <genii> crackhead_25: sudo fdisk -l   yes?   -l part important
[03:28] <genii> reading
[03:28] <crackhead_25> genii: http://pastebin.ca/807007 -- etc/fstab
[03:28] <bazhang> jmichaelx: I would suspect that the 11mb limit was a setting problem and not a hardware problem, either with the card or the router--did the bcm card reliably connect?
[03:28] <jmichaelx> my experience with the buntus so far is that a card my work in one version, not in the next... but then work again in the next
[03:29] <crackhead_25> http://pastebin.ca/807008 -- mount
[03:29] <jmichaelx> bazhang: no, it was (and probably is) a problem with the OS bcm43xx driver
[03:29] <genii> crackhead_25: OK, sdb1 looks like the one
[03:29] <bazhang> jmichaelx: I had to leave kubuntu during fiesty my wireless was so bad--came back for gutsy though
[03:30] <crackhead_25> genii: i added sdb1 to the fstab when it wasn't working
[03:30] <jmichaelx> bazhang: that is the opposite from my experience
[03:30] <crackhead_25> then i think i commented it out
[03:30] <jmichaelx> lol
[03:30] <crackhead_25> because it still wasn't working
[03:30] <bazhang> hehe
[03:30] <crackhead_25> it wasn't there to begin with, i dont think
[03:31] <genii> crackhead_25: No worries. post here result of command: blkid|grep sdb  and I'll give you a line to add to /etc/fstab for it
[03:31] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i compiled and the legacy rt2500 driver (from serialmonkey) last night, and it is way better than the driver that ships with *buntu, but so far it still royally sucks
[03:31] <bazhang> jmichaelx: this is way offtopic, but have you tried a live cd of another distro to see if the problem with the bcm card persists?
[03:32] <bazhang> jmichaelx: I have had nothing but awful experiences with ralink cards (plural)
[03:33]  * genii sips his grapefruit juice and waits for the post
[03:33] <jmichaelx> bazhang: as far as i know, the speed issue with bcm43xx-based cards is universal in linux when using th eOS driver... the only way around it is to use ndiswrapper... which is actually the route i should be taking with the rt2500 , too
[03:33] <crackhead_25> genii: blk... -- http://pastebin.ca/807010
[03:33] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i have had nothing but great experience with ralink, when not using *ubuntu
[03:34] <genii> crackhead_25: Bah. Need entire output, sorry. Just of: blkid
[03:34] <bazhang> jmichaelx: well, that is a last resort ndiswarper that is, but if it works...
[03:34] <genii> Or is it possible it has no uuid?
[03:34] <genii> Hmm
[03:34] <jmichaelx> bazhang: i know. i have learned some things, but am definitely far from a wireless wizard
[03:34] <crackhead_25> genii: http://pastebin.ca/807011 -- blkid
[03:35] <bazhang> jmichaelx: two weeks with ndiswarper and an external wireless card changed that for me..just wait you will be one soon :}
[03:35] <jmichaelx> bazhang: this rt2500 card is working great when i'm at home, but i often cannot connect at coffee-shops , etc, even on completely unencrypted networks
[03:36] <bazhang> jmichaelx: similar experience here, and as I do most of my blogging outside, a huge problem :{
[03:36] <jmichaelx> bazhang: you're probably right. i have never used ndiswrapper, and have never wanted to
[03:36] <maduser> ndiswaraper works great
[03:36] <genii> crackhead_25: I was going to use the uuid of it to write the proper line. But it seems no uuids are on your ntfs drives at all
[03:36] <bazhang> I prefer ndiswarper
[03:37] <jmichaelx> bazhang: are you able to get on public access points using ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <maduser> for me, yeah
[03:38] <bazhang> jmichaelx: mostly use my eeepc for that now, so have given up on that for the time being
[03:38] <jmichaelx> eeepc?
[03:38]  * jmichaelx drools
[03:38] <bazhang> haha
[03:38] <jmichaelx> i bet your eeepc rocks
[03:38] <genii> crackhead_25: Since no uuid we'll have to use the old /dev name.So into /etc/fstab, :     /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[03:39] <maduser> ndiswaper works better then that restricted driver thing in 7.10
[03:39] <maduser> !eeepc
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eeepc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <genii> crackhead_25: Then you need to make sure directory /media/sdb1 is there and if not, make it
[03:39] <bazhang> www.eeeuser.com
[03:39] <Jucato> maduser: ASUS Eee PC
[03:39] <maduser> ah that small thing
[03:39] <bazhang> sorry for the spam
[03:39] <crackhead_25> genii: ok, one sec.. can you explain the umask and gid meaning?
[03:41] <genii> crackhead_25: Not really. I suppose I could google them for a full explanation. They are the defaults already in there for your other drives at the moment.
[03:41] <genii> crackhead_25: The others read/write etc, yes?
[03:41] <jmichaelx> maduser: i love gutsy except for two things.... the buntu devs seem to be (who am i to say) kind of wreckless when it comes to wireless (like packaging the VERY unstable beta rt2500 driver in gutsy, instead of the stable legacy driver) , and i still have an issue with USB drives not mounting upon booting up.. i have to unplug them, then plug them back in for them to mount
[03:42]  * genii sips a coffee and ponders why no UUIDs on those ntfs drives
[03:42] <crackhead_25> genii: yeah, the others do, for the most part.. i think.. the others are internal drives..
[03:43] <genii> crackhead_25: Do you have Vista on that external?
[03:43] <crackhead_25> genii: no, the external is just media data.. mp3, avi, movies, songs.. etc.
[03:43] <genii> crackhead_25: Was it encrypted from inside Vista with Bitlocker?
[03:44] <crackhead_25> no, never encryped, i dont think.. never used it on viista either..
[03:44] <crackhead_25> ok, added the dir in /media.. mkdir..
[03:44] <crackhead_25> now what?
[03:46] <genii> crackhead_25: Try: mount -a            then see if you can browse it from konq or dolphin
[03:47] <crackhead_25> genii: mount -a ... http://pastebin.ca/807020
[03:47] <crackhead_25> check the results.. i dont know/think it worked..
[03:48] <crackhead_25> yeah, it didnt.. i dont see the contents within that folder in konquerer..
[03:49] <genii> crackhead_25: open back up /etc/fstab ... go to just past last letter on last line in that file and hit enter twice. then save it, retry mount -s
[03:50] <genii> crackhead_25: mount -a        rather
[03:51] <genii> crackhead_25: Also your sdb1 will not mount at all until you chkdsk it from XP/2K whatever. It says filesystem is marked unclean
[03:51] <crackhead_25> i never used it in windows.. should i plug it into my windows vista laptop and then run a chkdisk on it?
[03:51] <crackhead_25> it's firewire external connected
[03:52] <genii> crackhead_25: Yes, do that, chkdsk it then "Safely remove" it
[03:52] <genii> Or alternately shutdown system properly before disconnecting it, etc
[03:53] <crackhead_25> ok, be back in a few.. let you know when that's done.. may take a little while..
[03:53] <genii> np
[03:53] <crackhead_25> you have an email? can you share in private chat or somethin?
[03:54] <genii> crackhead_25: I avoid pm when possible
[03:54] <crackhead_25> ok .. just dont go anywhere :)
[03:54]  * genii glues himself to the desk!
[03:55] <BluesKaj> genii, next time I'm in TO , i'll treat you to big caffeine feast at starbucks or someting :)
[03:55] <BluesKaj> din't think this was gonna such a big prob
[03:55] <genii> BluesKaj: Yer on!
[03:56] <BluesKaj> cool !
[03:56] <genii> BluesKaj: His drive is marked unclean, i bet it's whats been his headache all along
[03:56] <BluesKaj> 'unclean' err that sounds serious
[03:57]  * genii shrieks and points his finger in horror! "UNCLEAN!" he shrieks again!
[03:57] <BluesKaj> prolly needs a reformat
[03:57] <BluesKaj> hehe
[03:58] <genii> BluesKaj: Nah it just needs scandisk equivelent in xp/2k  ..chkdsk
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Infidel !
[03:58] <jmichaelx> windows machines call drives dirty if they have unix partitions on them
[03:58] <BluesKaj> aha
[03:58] <jmichaelx> it is true
[03:58] <crackhead_25> genii: for some reason i cant get it plugged into my laptop. it was never plugged into the laptop. there is a 1394 plug socket, but it's not the correct size..
[03:59] <maduser> windows thinks unix is dirty?
[03:59] <jmichaelx> maduser: apparently
[03:59] <genii> crackhead_25: Damn. Is it dual 1394/USB?
[03:59]  * BluesKaj has an unclean drive ...I'll wipe the drive with my left hand the next time :)
[03:59] <jmichaelx> lol
[04:00] <crackhead_25> yeah, probably
[04:01] <genii> crackhead_25: If the drive can use both firewire and usb go srounge up a usb cord and use that then
[04:01] <genii> *scrounge
[04:02] <crackhead_25> genii:  oh, no the firewire drive itself doesnt have a dual usb firewire..
[04:03] <crackhead_25> the port on the laptop is a dual usb/firewire socket..
[04:03] <crackhead_25> gateway convertible laptop
[04:03] <genii> crackhead_25: Ah Ok. Well, I guess it will need to wait then for the time being.
[04:03] <BluesKaj> I'm not much help here , so i'll hit the sack.. nite gents
[04:03] <crackhead_25> its says there is some fix program for linux that could work? or will that reformat it? i can't reformat it. have to keep the data on it.
[04:03] <genii> crackhead_25: But after you chkdsk it in Windows, should mount in linux anyhow
[04:04] <genii> crackhead_25: I would NOT suggest messing with unclean ntfs from linux
[04:04] <crackhead_25> ok
[04:05] <crackhead_25> is there a similar "remove device safely" function in linux? could my having merely plugged and unplugged it from the linux a few times have caused the same uncleanliness?
[04:07] <genii> crackhead_25: Please do command: locate ntfsfix        and tell me if it finds it
[04:07] <crackhead_25> didnt seem to find it
[04:08] <crackhead_25> should i install it?
[04:08] <genii> crackhead_25: OK. For external drives or drives which get removed sometimes a good option to make sure they sync before removing them
[04:08] <crackhead_25> what is it?
[04:08] <crackhead_25> how do i do that?
[04:08] <genii> crackhead_25: ntfsfix is a part of linux-ntfs toolkit, just reading about it now
[04:10] <genii> crackhead_25: to sync drives, just the command: sync  by itself. Then you can umount /media/sdb1 with no half-copied files in buffer but not on drive, etc
[04:11] <refreshrate> damn kubuntu monitor settings is crazy and interfers with nvidia drivers-it says 53hz when its actually  60, i changed it to 50 hz and my refresh rate became 75hz as i wanted
[04:12] <crackhead_25> genii: do you mean you have to do a commandline everytime you want to plug /unplug? isnt there a better way/a little applet to run in the toolbar or something?
[04:12] <genii> crackhead_25: You can also alternately add option of nosync to the /etc/fstab line for sdb1
[04:12] <crackhead_25> ill have to look.. maybe..
[04:12] <crackhead_25> no sync? what would that do? maybe ill do that..
[04:13] <genii> crackhead_25:  nosync means not to store/buffer data bound for drives which can be disconnected like usb/nfs etc
[04:13] <crackhead_25> do i add that after gid=46?
[04:14] <genii> crackhead_25: It writes anything immediately to drive so always marked clean if you umount it
[04:14] <genii> crackhead_25: add it just after defaults
[04:15] <crackhead_25> k, i did
[04:15] <genii> since defaults includes sync the nosync overrides it if placed after
[04:18] <genii> crackhead_25: Since you can't chkdsk it yet, there's not much more to be done for it tonight
[04:20]  * genii puts the coffeemug away and starts drinking milk out of the container
[04:21] <crackhead_25> genii: ok, thanks.. ill be back to it soon.. see if i can get a little converter plug for the 1394 socket tomorrow maybe..
[04:22] <genii> crackhead_25: here time is nearing midnight. I'm normqally online daytimes here from about 9am til 4:45pm-ish Toronto EST
[04:22] <crackhead_25> EST as well
[04:22] <genii> Well 11:22 actually pm
[04:23] <genii> crackhead_25: You can catch me almost any weekday then in those times, sometimes later from home like now as well
[04:24] <genii> crackhead_25: If there's a Leafs game on expect lag :)
[04:31] <crackhead_25> genii: fantastic. youve been a great help. thank you again
[04:31] <genii> crackhead_25: You're welcome
[04:33] <genii> !helpersnack > genii
[04:37] <ryan-c> is there any workaround for getting amarok to work properly with playlists that have http user/passwords embeded in them?
[04:37] <ryan-c> I have a di.fm premium subscription, and it's choking on the playlists.
[04:44] <denis> e ai galera :D
[04:46] <Neoxeekhrobe> Guys I need to decide in which format I should rip my music library. I have an iPod Nano 3g(not yet supported under Linux) but no iTunes, UIQ3 phone and Kubuntu?
[04:46] <Neoxeekhrobe> I need music while I work with my computer and on the go.
[04:47] <Neoxeekhrobe> What i want to do is to rip them and back them up on cds so that I don't have to rip again if something goes wrong and I lose my data
[04:49] <ryan-c> Neoxeekhrobe: Rip to flac, and convert to mp3 if you need it for a player.
[04:50] <Neoxeekhrobe> yah but ripping again and again wont be that easy and flac takes a lot of space.
[04:51] <adamonline45> I'm trying to change my default sound-mixer slider to change the 'PCM' volume instead of the 'master' volume.  Does anyone know how to do this in KDE?
[04:52] <adamonline45> oops, here's a how-to for gnome, but it uses gconftool-2, and I don't seem to have the target directories it specifies: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-d374bb9e1b7183c133759a8c6877a34c50c4ba7d
[04:53] <Neoxeekhrobe> adam: use kmixer
[04:56] <Jucato> adamonline45: right-click on the kmix (speaker) icon in your system tray and click on Select Master Channel...
[04:56] <adamonline45> Neoxeekhrobe: Alright, I'll check it out.  Do you mean KMix, or is that a separate application? oh okay
[04:57] <Neoxeekhrobe> yah kmix
[04:58] <adamonline45> Jucato: I did that.  I think I see what the problem is, it works if I change the volume from there now, thank you, but using my IR remote it still changes the Master volume instead of PCM.  Do either of you know where I might find some conf file or something that'll let me change that?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> the remote stuff has its own config files. :)
[04:59] <Jucato> adamonline45: did you select PCM to be the Master Channel?
[04:59] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Do you happen to know where I'd find that or what it's called? Even a guess?
[04:59] <Dr_willis> Id say ask in #ubuntu-mythtv i bet they would know..  I found the remote i had.. lacking. so  i dont use it any more.
[05:00] <adamonline45> Jucato: I did, yes.  Now the slider on the sound icon in the taskbar works as expected, just the IR mote...
[05:00] <adamonline45> er, just the mote *doesn't.
[05:00] <Dr_willis> its proberly somthing to do with 'lirc'
[05:00] <Dr_willis> etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[05:01] <Dr_willis>  To find out how to get a proper configuration file please read:--->      /usr/share/doc/lirc/README.Debian
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Heh - what a good comment in a config file.
[05:03] <adamonline45> Dr_willis: Haha, nice!  I think Samba does that... BRB, and thank you in case I'm too late to say it later...
[05:03] <josue> hola
[05:04] <josue> ubuntu-es
[05:04] <Jucato> !es | josue
[05:04] <ubotu> josue: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:14] <marshall_> hello?
[05:14] <compbrain> hi
[05:15] <marshall_> can someone help me, im new to linux and im trying to install ndiswrapper-1.50, but i cannot figure it out
[05:15] <hydrogen> !ndiswrapper | marshall_
[05:15] <ubotu> marshall_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:19] <Frederick> folks how do I add support for pt-br in kile?
[05:34] <maduser> marshall: are you using a broadcom wireless card 43xx?
[05:36] <navetz> can i get photoshop working with wine somehow
[05:36] <maduser> use GIMP insted
[05:37] <maduser> get it through adept
[05:38] <Jucato> GIMP, Krita, etc. navetz you can try to ask in #winehq about that though
[05:38] <maduser> gimp is open gl
[05:38] <maduser> you don't need wine for gimp
[05:39] <navetz> i dont like gimp
[05:39] <maduser> have you ever used it?
[05:39]  * Jucato was referring to asking about PS in #winehq
[05:39] <navetz> i have tried using it for about 6 months now and im am very sick of it
[05:39] <Jucato> and open gl?
[05:39] <navetz> irc://irc.ubuntu.com:8001/winehq
[05:39] <navetz> whoops
[05:40] <maduser> aren't all linux GUI programs writen with open GL?
[05:40] <maduser> for for open GL
[05:40] <Jucato> no
[05:40] <Jucato> has nothing to do w/ open gl
[05:40] <maduser> really?
[05:41] <maduser> isn't open gl for the graphics?
[05:41] <Jucato> doesn't mean that all GUI programs are written with/for Open GL
[05:42]  * Jucato really doesn't have the time to be explaining this though
[05:42] <maduser> I'll google it
[05:42] <Jucato> thanks
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:43] <Dr_willis> !opengl
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <PupUsered190c> heyall.  Can't seem to find a solution for my problem on forums...
[05:47] <PupUsered190c> here goes..
[05:47]  * Dr_willis waits... 
[05:47] <PupUsered190c> Been using kubuntu for about a year w/o any problems until yesterday.
[05:48] <PupUsered190c> when I tried to connect to a public wifi spot
[05:48] <PupUsered190c> my card became disabled..
[05:49] <PupUsered190c> and now I can't get it working again.
[05:49] <PupUsered190c> using puppy right now so it isn't the card itself...
[05:49] <maduser> what kind of cars do you have
[05:49] <PupUsered190c> googled but no luck. Any ideas (please)?
[05:50] <marshall_> volvo 1982 240dl :P
[05:50] <Jucato> heheh :)
[05:50] <PupUsered190c> it's actually a Pentium centrino (T43)
[05:50] <Jucato> O.o
[05:50] <maduser> wireless card
[05:50]  * Jucato guesses he didn't get the joke :)
[05:50] <PupUsered190c> lol
[05:50] <marshall_> lol
[05:51] <maduser> no i did not
[05:51] <maduser> i'm a sad person
[05:51] <marshall_> im sorry :(
[05:51] <Jucato> [13:49] <maduser> what kind of cars do you have   -->  [13:50] <marshall_> volvo 1982 240dl :P
[05:51] <marshall_> please continue helping that man
[05:51] <marshall_> ignore me
[05:51] <Jucato> :)
[05:51] <PupUsered190c> :) thanks
[05:52] <PupUsered190c> looked through the help files too but was unable to make any progress.  Kubuntu just seems to have stopped recognizing the wireless...
[05:53] <PupUsered190c> hoping to not have to reinstall
[05:53] <Jucato> PupUsered190c: maduser was asking what kind of wireless card you have
[05:53] <maduser> yeah
[05:53] <PupUsered190c> pentium centrino 2ghz
[05:53] <PupUsered190c> wireless integrated...
[05:54] <marshall_> reinstall drivers?
[05:54] <marshall_> can you do that on kubuntu lol? I just started using it today :D
[05:55] <PupUsered190c> not sure how..might you give me a URL to a guide.  fairly new to the cmd line but i feel confident...
[05:55] <PupUsered190c> been a linux addict for about a year now.
[05:55] <marshall_> it making me angry so far i cant get my damn usb wifi to work
[05:56] <PupUsered190c> bought this thinkpad because of *nix :)
[05:56] <Jucato> PupUsered190c: Pentium Centrino is your processor. it doesn't tell us anything about your motherboard, much less your wireless card :)
[05:56] <Jucato> lspci could give you a hint.
[05:56] <PupUsered190c> hmmm...lemme open a term...
[05:57] <Jucato> (or "iwconfig" I think)
[05:58] <marshall_> can anyone help me get a Wifi usb adapter to work?
[05:59] <PupUsered190c> iwconfig shows the network lspci shows nothin.. shall I past?
[06:00] <Jucato> !pastebin | PupUsered190c
[06:00] <ubotu> PupUsered190c: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:00] <Jucato> PupUsered190c: the output of lspci
[06:00] <PupUsered190c> k brb
[06:02] <forevertheuni> hey all :D
[06:02] <forevertheuni> is there an option like in gnome(ubuntu) to enamble compiz-fusion?
[06:03] <Jucato> !compiz
[06:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:03] <forevertheuni> or i'll have to load it from the icon in bar or mannualy?
[06:03] <forevertheuni> ah
[06:03] <forevertheuni> ok tnx
[06:05] <forevertheuni> about kde4...is there any app like knetworkmanager?
[06:05] <forevertheuni> I have the rc1 already installed
[06:06] <Jucato> you can use kde3 apps in kde4. I don't know if knetworkmanager has been ported to kde4 already
[06:06] <forevertheuni> I run "knetowrkmanger" and had msg saying klaunchinit couldn't start it...or something like that
[06:07] <forevertheuni> and the....application to the desktop(widgets gadgets plasmoids ...whatever)..I can't move them..is there any trick?
[06:07] <maduser> unlock them
[06:08]  * Jucato doesn't recommend using rc1. wait for rc2 in a few days (or a week)
[06:09] <forevertheuni> :) I'm not really using
[06:09] <forevertheuni> just trying to see how it works
[06:10] <marshall_> where can i dl compiz?
[06:10] <maduser> adept
[06:10]  * Jucato points marshall_ to what the bot said just a bit earlier
[06:11] <marshall_> i closed my window by nistake its not there anymoe :(
[06:11] <Jucato> !compiz
[06:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:11] <forevertheuni> will 8.04  come with kde4?
[06:11] <marshall_> thanks
[06:11] <PupUsered190c> sorry all lost my conncetion
[06:11] <PupUsered190c>  anyway, I can't copy from puppy's terminal...
[06:12] <PupUsered190c> outout of lspci is a set of #'s that look alot like:
[06:13] <PupUsered190c> 00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:2590 (rev 03)
[06:13] <PupUsered190c> what was the url for the pasting area?
[06:13] <Jucato> !pastebin
[06:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <Jucato> PupUsered190c: do you see a line that says something like "Ethernet controller"?
[06:14] <PupUsered190c> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47070/
[06:15] <PupUsered190c> BTW thanks for beign such a cohecive community y'all.  One of the big reasons I quit Windoze :)
[06:16] <Jucato> that's a very weird lspci output
[06:16] <forevertheuni> what's his problem?
[06:16] <PupUsered190c> negative Jucato...
[06:16] <marshall_> jucato, can you help me with compiz lol, none of this makes sense to me!
[06:16] <forevertheuni> pup...your ethernet is not seen?
[06:16] <PupUsered190c> could it be because I'm running puppy from ram?
[06:16] <Jucato> PupUsered190c: yes. unfortunately, I can't read anything from there
[06:16] <Jucato> yes
[06:17] <PupUsered190c> damn...
[06:17] <forevertheuni> do a dmesg
[06:17] <Jucato> marshall_: sorry, I don't use compiz. try asking in #compiz-fusion
[06:17] <PupUsered190c> currently it's the only way i can get online...
[06:17] <forevertheuni> marshall_ pvt me
[06:17] <marshall_> how rofl
[06:17] <marshall_> im 3 hous into linux ><
[06:17] <Jucato> click on his nick and a new tab will open
[06:17] <Jucato> you can chat in private
[06:18] <ardchoille> forevertheuni: he's not id'd, he won't be able to respond unless you've turned filtering off
[06:19] <forevertheuni> oh
[06:19] <forevertheuni> ardchoille, didn't know that
[06:19] <marshall_> forever i have to register to talk to you or something
[06:20] <forevertheuni> marshall_, did you read what I sent to ya?
[06:20] <marshall_> yea
[06:20] <ardchoille> forevertheuni: But you two can join #forevertheuni  or #marshall_  :)
[06:20] <forevertheuni> ok
[06:20] <forevertheuni> try to do that
[06:20] <PupUsered190c> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47071/
[06:21] <PupUsered190c> marshall: the learning curve is kinda steep but its VERY worth it!
[06:21] <forevertheuni> pup...I still dunno your problem
[06:21] <PupUsered190c> damn...
[06:22] <PupUsered190c> might have to reinstall...
[06:22] <forevertheuni> marshall join #buh
[06:22] <PupUsered190c> pw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.2k
[06:22] <Jucato> [13:47] <PupUsered190c> Been using kubuntu for about a year w/o any problems until yesterday. when I tried to connect to a public wifi spot my card became disabled.. and now I can't get it working again.
[06:22] <Jucato> forevertheuni: ^^^
[06:23] <PupUsered190c> sorry forever misunderstood ya...
[06:23] <Jucato> PupUsered190c: your card seems to be an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[06:23] <Jucato> (which is the same as my laptop, and doesn't have problems)
[06:23] <PupUsered190c> yep just figured that out :)
[06:24] <Jucato> !wireless
[06:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:24] <PupUsered190c> wierd becasue it's been problem free for so long!
[06:24] <Jucato> unfortunately, I'm not wireless guru, so...
[06:24] <PupUsered190c> hmmm
[06:26] <PupUsered190c> what happend is this: I connected to a public hot spot.  Had to restart for an unrelated reason and when KDE came up again, Knetwork Manager shows my wireless device greyed out and the wireless indicator light wont come on...
[06:26] <PupUsered190c> as I said before, it isn't the card itself as Im using it now with Puppy Linux loaded to RAM...
[06:27] <PupUsered190c> Anyway, I appretiate all of your attempt at helping...
[06:28] <PupUsered190c> :( guess I'll reinstall...
[06:30] <PupUsered190c> thanks again...
[06:30] <PupUsered190c> bye all....
[06:39] <rishi> @all hie..
[06:40] <rishi> hows the experience with gutsy?
[06:40] <ardchoille> rishi: I've not had any problems at all on any of my 11 boxes.
[06:42] <rishi> @ardchoulle .. dats good
[06:42] <rishi> any1 tried compiz?
[06:44] <forevertheuni> !compiz
[06:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:48] <Commander_Giggle> OH JEEZ
[06:48] <Commander_Giggle> nvrmind me ....
[06:48] <Commander_Giggle> srry lol
[06:49] <forevertheuni> !pastebin
[06:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:53] <d03boy> I need to quickly run a dhcpd server? what do I do?
[06:55] <factorx> sudo apt-get install dnsmasq
[06:56] <factorx> it's a lean dns caching and dhcp server
[06:57] <d03boy> alrighty
[06:59] <d03boy> hrm
[07:01] <d03boy> dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for ::1: Address already in use
[07:03] <maduser> !dnsmasq
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dnsmasq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <forevertheuni> d03boy, lol
[07:06] <forevertheuni> u have other one running?
[07:06] <d03boy> eh?
[07:06] <forevertheuni> lool
[07:06] <forevertheuni> that's what it said
[07:06] <forevertheuni> d03boy, ....
[07:06] <forevertheuni> nmap localhost
[07:07] <forevertheuni> hmm..will dhcpd appear there?
[07:07] <d03boy> qshows domain and ipp
[07:07] <forevertheuni> dnsmask also is dns server right?
[07:07] <kaankee> hi can i know which is the best SVN that can be used on kubuntu platform
[07:07] <d03boy> hmm?
[07:07] <factorx> forevertheuni: no, it's a dns caching server
[07:08] <Ahmuck> is there an option in kubuntu --> send to vt?
[07:09] <forevertheuni> :(
[07:09] <forevertheuni> lol
[07:09] <forevertheuni> I used to use dhcpd
[07:09] <Ahmuck> for example, i have two sessions open, one on f7 and the other on f9.  i want to send an app to f9 without closing it
[07:09] <forevertheuni> but that usually needs some reading in the config file
[07:09] <factorx> forevertheuni: basically it reads the local /etc/hosts and resolves every host in it for the local network. every other dns request is forwarded to the nameserver found in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:09] <d03boy> screw it. i'll do it a different way
[07:10] <forevertheuni> factorx, hmm but it uses the dns doors?
[07:10] <forevertheuni> d03boy, i'm downloading the file...it is stupidilly slow
[07:10] <factorx> forevertheuni: u mean doors = ports?
[07:10] <forevertheuni> oh yes..
[07:11] <forevertheuni> its 7am here
[07:11] <forevertheuni> O.o
[07:11] <forevertheuni> my eyes are lite. like that
[07:11] <factorx> yes, it does. because it can be used as a dns forwarder in a local network
[07:12] <factorx> it's perfect as a dns forwarder and dhcp server in a local network behind a dsl router or something
[07:12] <forevertheuni> I was saying that
[07:12] <forevertheuni> he has probably some other dns server running
[07:12] <forevertheuni> dnsmasq...is still a server to lan's eyes
[07:12] <factorx> sure it is
[07:13] <forevertheuni> I'm not saying its not
[07:13] <forevertheuni> I was only trying to solve the dude's problem
[07:13] <forevertheuni> :)
[07:13] <factorx> oic
[07:14] <factorx> if he's already running BIND or something dnsmasq is probably not the right choice
[07:14] <d03boy> dont worry about it guys
[07:14] <d03boy> too late
[07:15] <Dooms> hey can any of you guys watch this video i made? And yes im the girl
[07:15] <Dooms> http://youtube.com/watch?v=eXdkyAyOcGo
[07:16] <dsmith_> eh?
[07:22] <maduser> what?
[07:22] <maduser> Dooms:you use kubutnu?
[07:23] <Jucato> maduser: it's most probably a spambot (seeing it is in so many channels, most probably saying the same thing)
[07:24] <Jucato> (and it is also gone btw)
[07:24] <maduser> Can't we block spam bots?
[07:25] <Jucato> we can. but only after they've spammed once. It's called a ban. :D
[07:25] <maduser> right
[07:25] <Jucato> (and it's the same thing we use to deal with trolls and miscreants :D)
[07:25] <maduser> cool
[07:29] <maduser> if thats a spam bot...
[07:35] <DeadJones> i've found that by banning *mp3* channels, it's drastically cut down on the number of spam craps.
[07:38] <sigma> does anyone know if a panel applet to control amarok exists?
[07:40] <Jucato> sigma: amarocker I think. you can probably find some in http://kde-apps.org
[07:40] <Jucato> There's also the Media Control panel applet
[07:41] <Jucato> !info kicker-applets
[07:41] <ubotu> kicker-applets: applets for Kicker, the KDE panel. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 223 kB, installed size 888 kB
[07:41] <Jucato> I think the Media Control applet is there
[07:41] <Jucato> yep, Media Control can control Amarok
[07:43] <adamonline45> nice! Just yionked that info 8)
[07:44]  * Jucato also notes that Amarok has very useful Global keyboard shortcuts so you don't need to have a control applet..
[07:46] <adamonline45> Jucato: I'd actually most like to use my macbook remote, but I think the signal gets hooked by the OS before it gets to amarok, as it's not responding (though I can bind the remote keys by pressing them in the binding menu)
[07:47] <adamonline45> My reall question, though, is if anyone has any information on installing the Domino style engine?
[07:47] <sigma> Jucato: Yup I know that - tried to get the next / prev track set to the + - volume buttons on my mouse - but when i press the mouse buttons it only adjusts the volume and not the track, where do i stop the mouse buttons from adjusting the audio?
[07:48]  * adamonline45 listens intently
[07:50] <Jucato> sigma: that I don't know. sorry
[07:51] <Jucato> (it's more of a mouse button-mapping problem I think)
[07:51] <Jucato> sorry to disappoint you adamonline45 :)
[07:51] <Jucato> adamonline45: what about Domino?
[07:54] <Jucato> !info kde-style-domino hardy
[07:54] <ubotu> kde-style-domino: Domino widget style and kwin decoration for KDE3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 330 kB, installed size 1136 kB
[07:54] <Lynoure> Is there a way in KDE to have a window on multiple desktops, but not on all?
[07:55] <adamonline45> Well, I'm installing it from source... is there a package? Anyway, I'm getting an error at the ./configure stage saying it can't find my X config...
[07:56] <adamonline45> Jucato: the error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:56] <Jucato> !xincludes | adamonline45
[07:56] <ubotu> adamonline45: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[07:56] <Jucato> Lynoure: afaik, no... (or at least maybe not yet)
[07:57] <Jucato> adamonline45: and there's a package for Kubuntu floating around somewhere in http://kde-look.org
[07:57] <sigma> is it true that feisty packages will not install in gutsy?
[07:57] <Lynoure> sigma: some do.
[07:57] <Lynoure> sigma: but it's recommended against.
[07:58] <Lynoure> That is: feel free to try, but don't expect people to be eager to help if it breaks something
[07:58] <adamonline45> Jucato: It says there's no package xlibs-dev... Or, that it's been obsoleted. :/
[07:59] <sigma> i see, is it dangerous to install them? i know the graphics drivers don't work but thats understandable as they are rather crucial to the system
[07:59] <Jucato> adamonline45: try xorg-dev. but I really do suggest you try to look for the .deb package first
[08:00] <Lynoure> sigma: What packege are you eyeing, specifically?
[08:00] <Jucato> sigma: more "unrecommended" than dangerous. Some packages *might* cause severe problems, some might not. The question is, are you willing to risk it? :D
[08:00] <Lynoure> sigma: and are you talking about official feisty packages or stuff packaged by a 3rd party?
[08:01] <sigma> i have a whole lot from feisty - my i-net connection is rather slow and expensive so i dont want to re-download them - its mainly the audio and video codecs
[08:01] <adamonline45> !qtincludes
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtincludes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <adamonline45> dang... Jucato, I'm getting an error about Qt now... Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) headers and libraries not found...
[08:02] <Jucato> libqt3-mt-dev
[08:02] <Jucato> (but you're not listening, are you?)
[08:02]  * Jucato shrugs
[08:03] <adamonline45> me?
[08:03] <adamonline45> oh i thought you meant the deb package of xorg-dev... er, the one I couldn't get
 Well, I'm installing it from source... is there a package? <Jucato> adamonline45: and there's a package for Kubuntu floating around somewhere in http://kde-look.org
[08:04] <adamonline45> ooh got you
[08:04] <adamonline45> alright, I only saw the source... I'll scour :)  Don't know how I missed that though... :S
[08:05] <adamonline45> Jucato: er, your message, not the .deb
[08:05] <sigma_> does anyone here know how to use the "xrandr" command properly?
[08:09] <sigma_> when i type xrandr and hit enter it says my svideo is disconnected even when it is hooked up to the tv. how do i force the detection?
[08:12] <adamonline45> Jucato: Yay! I found it and it installed nicely!  Thanks a lot 8)
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> hi al
[08:18] <sigma_> when i type xrandr and hit enter it says my svideo is disconnected even when it is hooked up to the tv. how do i force the detection?
[08:18] <GerrySly> alright this is pissing me off, everytime I attempt to open like 4 tabs in firefox it logs me off
[08:18] <GerrySly> like it is overloading as it just locks up and then just logs off
[08:19] <GerrySly> just happened again :(
[08:19] <sigma_> GerrySly: where did u install firefox from?
[08:19] <GerrySly> repositories
[08:20] <GerrySly> Install/Mange Programs > Firefox
[08:20] <sigma_> firefox v2.0.0.8 or the beta v3.0?
[08:20] <david__> hello
[08:20] <sigma_> ok thern you dont have the beta
[08:20] <GerrySly> 2.0.0.11
[08:20] <GerrySly> nope not the beta
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> hi david__
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: try renaming your ~/.firefox folder and rerunning it
[08:21] <GerrySly> i'll give it a crack
[08:21] <sigma_> id say uninstall it - download the package manually from packages.ubuntu.com and install it again
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: or it might be ~/.mozilla
[08:22] <GerrySly> yeah it's ~/.mozilla
[08:22] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <endofnite> moin moin
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: cool, any good once you've renamed it
[08:23] <GerrySly> testing opening like 10 tabs now
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: sweet
[08:23]  * ActionParsnip crosses his fingers
[08:24] <GerrySly> seems to be working fine
[08:24] <GerrySly> yup it worked perfectly
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: ok now you need to get the favorites from the old folder and you're ok
[08:25] <GerrySly> yeah, I imported them from Windows so I still got em sitting there
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: sweet
[08:25] <GerrySly> thanks
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: if you are happy with it you can rmdir the old profile (or keep it if you wanna)
[08:26] <GerrySly> i'll just let it stay, wait a few days, then remove
[08:26] <GerrySly> i'm loving linux more and more
[08:26] <ardchoille> :)
[08:26] <GerrySly> so much more control than m$
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: indeedy :)
[08:27] <ardchoille> GerrySly: Not to mention freedom
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> GerrySly: and no virus' too
[08:27] <GerrySly> that's true
[08:28] <ardchoille> And you can't beat the price ;)
[08:28]  * ActionParsnip laughs heartily
[08:28] <GerrySly> and coding is absolutely insane, in windoze I had to download everything, here it is pretty much all already loaded and ready to go
[08:28] <GerrySly> oh yeah and the price is great :)
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> where i work they all run xp but run open source software apps
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> its really quite annoying
[08:29] <ardchoille> leechers
[08:29] <ardchoille> :P
[08:29] <GerrySly> yeah I was doing that for a while
[08:29] <GerrySly> then I realised I was just kidding myself and switched
[08:29] <ardchoille> hehe
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> I just got sick of BSOD and stuck mandrake on my rig
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> then tried kubuntu and never looked back
[08:30] <ardchoille> IS there no Frogger game for Linux? That's the one game I miss
[08:30] <Daisuke_Ido> !find frogger
[08:30] <Daisuke_Ido> there's gotta be
[08:30] <Daisuke_Ido> and if not, mame :D
[08:31] <ubotu> Package/file frogger does not exist in gutsy
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Daisuke_Ido: http://www.pixjuegos.com/descargas/pixfrogger-1.0.tar.bz2
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Daisuke_Ido: http://www.pixjuegos.com/?q=node/59
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ActionParsnip: yeah, but ardchoille was the one looking :)
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Daisuke_Ido: its up to 4 players :D
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Daisuke_Ido: my bad
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: http://www.pixjuegos.com/?q=node/59
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries.  i'll check it out too :D
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> looks awesome
[08:33] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: W00T!
[08:35] <apparle> anyone uses kdevelop
[08:36] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: This looks like binary only
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: lemme check
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: how about a flash version?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: http://www.neave.com/games/frogger/
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/games/pixfrogger
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: its in the sources :D
[08:41] <icewaterman> i have a question about gnupg: why is a key i just imported not marked as trusted even though the key is signed by another key that i have assigned unlimited trust to (and signed that other key myself)?
[08:42] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: I'm not running hardy
[08:42] <ardchoille> The flash version is good
[08:42] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: np man
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: does "sudo apt-get install pixfrogger" not work?
[08:43] <ardchoille> !info pixfrogger
[08:43] <ubotu> Package pixfrogger does not exist in gutsy
[08:43] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Not in Gutsy :)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> !bah
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bah - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> !!
[08:44] <ardchoille> !info pixfrogger hardy
[08:44] <ubotu> pixfrogger: help the frog cross the street. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0-1 (hardy), package size 2183 kB, installed size 2504 kB
[08:44] <ardchoille> Well, nice to know it'll be there when I switch to hardy
[08:44] <Daisuke_Ido> backports?
[08:44] <ardchoille> I've been burned by backports, I won't use them
[08:45] <Daisuke_Ido> really doubt it's important enough to be backported
[08:45] <pastryness> do u guys suggest i download gutsy gibbon or dapper drake?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> pastryness: get gutsy
[08:45] <pastryness> ok
[08:45] <ardchoille> See, it's in hardy but not in gutsy. So, someone who upgrades from gutsy to hardy via cli won't get it even though they are upgrading.
[08:46] <ardchoille> pastryness: Dapper is quite old now
[08:47] <Daisuke_Ido> dapper's only plus is that it's supported for a while yet
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> WHat's new in Hardy Heron? Gutsy hasn't been out too long
[08:47] <adamonline45> Are there any font packages?
[08:47] <Daisuke_Ido> ActionParsnip: that's how it works, six months between releases
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> oic cheers Daisuke_Ido
[08:47] <Daisuke_Ido> and as for kubuntu hardy, it's a lot of catching up to ubuntu
[08:48] <Daisuke_Ido> finally
[08:48] <adamonline45> I thought they were identical but the WM
[08:48] <Daisuke_Ido> ...yes BUT.
[08:48] <Daisuke_Ido> look at some of the things u got before k did
[08:49] <Daisuke_Ido> restricted driver manager
[08:49] <adamonline45> AWN
[08:49] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not what i'm talking about
[08:49] <Daisuke_Ido> AWN isn't part of ubuntu
[08:49] <adamonline45> oh okay
[08:49] <adamonline45> yeah
[08:49] <Daisuke_Ido> and it doesn't play nice with kde anyway :)
[08:49] <Daisuke_Ido> you have kiba-dock
[08:49] <adamonline45> yeah... So I learned 8)
[08:50] <Daisuke_Ido> while the only difference in the base system is the WM, there are app differences where kubuntu is still catching up
[08:52] <adamonline45> True, something made me steer clear of kiba-dock though... I forget what... Maybe I didn't feel like compiling from source or installing a bunch of dependencies or something, heheh...
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> adamonline45: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/how-to-install-kiba-dock-in-ubuntu-gutsy/
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> adamonline45: i think you can just change feisty for gutsy
[08:56] <ardchoille> Well, Hardy will be an LTS release too
[08:57] <apparle> where do i get the doc for kdevelop
[08:57] <ardchoille> kdevelop3-doc
[08:57] <ardchoille> or kdevelop-doc
[08:58] <ardchoille> apparle: Try this: apt-cache search appname
[08:58] <ardchoille> Or if you want to search only in names: apt-cache search --names-only appname
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> !moo
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <yuri_> How can I fix dual screen on kubuntu, I have drivers for a intell card (laptop), At least I think so, since glxgears will run at 320 fps.
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> yuri_: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/69638-setting-up-dual-screen.html
[09:01] <yuri_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> yuri_: ALWAYS backup your xorg.conf before playing with it :)
[09:03] <ardchoille> I feel that /etc/X11/xorg.conf is one of those files that the system installer should make a backup of during initial install
[09:04] <yuri_> ActionParsnip: Yes, yes, I am a noob, but not that kind of one :)
[09:04] <yuri_> thanx for the tip though.
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> yuri_: I advise everyone equally :D
[09:04] <yuri_> ActionParsnip: I'm an opensuse user, trying to fix someone elses kubuntu laptop, I miss the SaX :)
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> yuri_: SaX?
[09:07] <yuri_> ActionParsnip: it is a xorg front end for opensuse (I just realised it is a opensuse thing, and not shipped with other distros
[09:07] <apparle> ardchoille: tell me something which can be done on WIN XP
[09:07] <someone> bash doesn't seem to be reading in /etc/profile or ~/.profile   why is this ?
[09:09] <apparle> the resolution of my logo screen has changed what to do??
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> apparle: what logo screen?
[09:11] <apparle> sorry logon screen
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> apparle: is it too low or too high?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> apparle: n /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the first entry in the "modes" lines of the various Screen->Display subsections determines the default resolution for X.
[09:13] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I don't know. The screen seems to be compresses horizontally
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> apparle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151192
[09:15] <ownedd> can i start windows setup in kubuntu form the windows-CD?
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox | ownedd
[09:17] <ubotu> ownedd: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ownedd: you can run it as a virtualbox. Is that what you meant?
[09:20] <ownedd> no, i was thinking of a dual-boot. windows - kubuntu.
[09:20] <apparle> ActionParsnip:thanks I will try when I am home
[09:20] <CrocoJet> good morning !
[09:20] <ownedd> but my cd is fckd, it doesnt start after reboot.
[09:21] <CrocoJet> someone knows if exist .iso of install kubuntu update ?
[09:21] <CrocoJet> I am getting lot problems with install process kubuntu
[09:21] <ardchoille> apparle: I ahven't used Windows for years, I don't know anything about it
[09:22] <ownedd> so i have to start it manualy. :S
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> ownedd: if your cd is faulty it wont installunder anything
[09:23] <CrocoJet> ownedd, are you talking about windows cd instalation?
[09:24] <james296> does anyone here know how to use the KBFX menu?
[09:24] <james296> I cant find it anywhere when I right click the K menu...
[09:25] <ardchoille> james296: Have you installed it?
[09:25] <james296> it came with Kubuntu
[09:25] <ownedd> i have kubuntu installed on my computer, and i want to run windows aswell (dual-boot). but my windows-cd is fckd so it doesnt start after i reboot my computer.
[09:25] <factorx> !flash
[09:25] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:25] <CrocoJet> ownedd, try to make diskdump of cd windows
[09:25] <ownedd> how to do that?
[09:26] <ardchoille> james296: kubuntu doesn't ship with kbfx unless you're talking about hardy
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> ownedd: then you need a new windows cd to install on the spre space you set aside
[09:26] <CrocoJet> use command: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/????/win.img bs=16M
[09:26] <CrocoJet> after burn to other cdrom
[09:26] <james296> well, Gutsy seems to have came w/ it cuz the configurator for it is on it...
[09:27] <CrocoJet> Gutsy is full bugs
[09:27] <ardchoille> james296: What configurator?
[09:27] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: That's your opinion
[09:27] <CrocoJet> ardchoille, I am getting lots .. only installation process
[09:28] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: I haven't seen one yet and I installed Gutsy when it was released
[09:28] <james296> for KBFX
[09:28] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: so.. do something about it :)
[09:28] <ardchoille> james296: I mean where is the configurator? In kcontrol? System Settings?
[09:29] <james296> yes in the K menu and Settings
[09:29] <ownedd> i have the windows-CD but the only problem is that it doesnt start after i reboot my computer. and i dont have an win.img file :S
[09:29] <ardchoille> james296: I am using Gutsy and don't see anything about kbfx. Can you tell me exactly where in settings you are seeing this?
[09:29] <CrocoJet> error with these files: libqt3-mt, kdelibs4c2a, adept-manager, adept-installer, adept-updater adept-notifier, adept-batch, adept, libk3b2, k3b, kdesudo, openoffice.org-kde
[09:30] <CrocoJet> this happen in first process of update
[09:30] <CrocoJet> ownedd, create one with command
[09:30] <james296> maybe its because I have installed extras using gnome...
[09:30] <james296> for Kubuntu
[09:30] <ardchoille> james296: :)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> ownedd: is your bios set to boot from cd?
[09:32] <james296> whats the smilie for?
[09:32] <ardchoille> You have it because you installed it, it doesn't come with Gutsy
[09:33] <james296> ok
[09:33] <james296> but its available in the repos, thats kinda what I meant, anyway, how can I get to use it?
[09:34] <ardchoille> james296: Although, kde4 will have 4 different types of menus to choose from.
[09:34] <CrocoJet> ardchoille, did you make install flash plugin using konqueror ?
[09:34] <james296> REALLY??
[09:34] <CrocoJet> no success here after install
[09:34] <apparle> ardchoille: I mean to say tell me how to get documentation for kdevelop without using linux commands> any download??
[09:34] <CrocoJet> getting lot window with signal 11
[09:34] <CrocoJet> about:plugins show that is ok, but flash do not run
[09:34] <james296> anyway how can I use that menu?
[09:36] <ardchoille> james296: Right click the panel, choose Add applet to panel, find the applet and add it
[09:36] <ardchoille> apparle: I'm a cli type person, I don't know much about how to do things in gui
[09:37] <james296> AHHH SWEET
[09:37] <james296> that worked
[09:37] <jpatrick> apparle: installing -doc packages ought to do it
[09:38] <stdin> apparle: on linux one would install kdevelop-doc, but if not then go to kdevelop.org
[09:38] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I should have thought of that :)
[09:38] <james296> and what is everyones opinion on the KBFX menu?
[09:40] <CrocoJet> why install process always stop at 57% (bar progress) ?
[09:40] <jpatrick> james296: I personally don't like it
[09:40] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: it's installing the kernel at that point, iirc
[09:41] <CrocoJet> no, because appear one window with error and I can click "OK" button
[09:41] <james296> well I need to get to bed now bye
[09:42] <factorx> I have a problem getting flash to work. Because flashplugin-nonfree has wrong MD5 sums again I installed it manually by untaring the package and copying libflashplayer.so to my browsers plugin directories. But now this is what I get: http://s3.directupload.net/images/071206/uekxdbl6.png
[09:42] <CrocoJet> factorx, I got same problem here
[09:42] <factorx> and no solution yet, I guess?
[09:43] <CrocoJet> beginner here in Kubuntu ... was Fedora user
[09:43] <CrocoJet> no idea
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> CrocoJet: did you restart your browser?
[09:43] <jpatrick> factorx: I think a fix has been uploade
[09:43] <CrocoJet> yes
[09:43] <jpatrick> -d*
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> CrocoJet: do other sites work ok?
[09:44] <CrocoJet> I did, ActionParsnip
[09:44] <factorx> jpatrick: where?
[09:44] <CrocoJet> is my 5 re-install of KUBUNTU .. and edit source-list to change server
[09:44] <CrocoJet> br.archive to archive
[09:44] <jpatrick> factorx: to hardy at least, might end up in gutsy-updates, dunno
[09:45] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: have you do "sudo apt-get update"
[09:45] <jpatrick> done*, ?*
[09:45] <factorx> jpatrick: I dont think so because flashplugin-nonfree is just a metapackage that downloads the plugin from the official adobe site.
[09:45] <CrocoJet> jpatrick, yes, this update came automatic from adept
[09:46] <jpatrick> factorx: from changelog: "New upstream release 9,0,115,0 : md5sums in postinst updated"
[09:46] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: No, he meant that once you edit your sources list, you have to update the sources so the changes in the list can be had
[09:46] <CrocoJet> ardchoille, yes I did
[09:47] <ardchoille> ok
[09:47] <factorx> jpatrick: that does not solve my problem, the only thing thats changed with that update, is, that I dont have to untar the file manually
[09:47] <CrocoJet> I did edit after install of cd-rom ... reboot and adept made update process ... 171Mb downloads
[09:48] <CrocoJet> I cant understand why I did one upgrade process .. because was installing kubuntu from zero, not from old version
[09:49] <CrocoJet> big mess .. install of kubuntu
[09:50] <CrocoJet> i solve problem with these error package install using "dpkg --configure -a"
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade
[09:51] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: Care to pastebin your sources.list file so we can try and help?
[09:51] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[09:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:51] <CrocoJet> backtrace do not get information when nspluginviwer failed
[09:51] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: Why are you telling me?
[09:51] <CrocoJet> Aranel, ok
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: i thought you said ok to the comment about updating sources.list
[09:52] <ardchoille> Oh, no, I was acknowledging CrocoJet
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: ok man nm :)
[09:54] <CrocoJet> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47077/  (source-list)
[09:56] <ardchoille> CrocoJet: The only thing I can see is backports. You do realise that backports is a "use at your own risk" repo, right?
[09:56] <CrocoJet> yes I saw, but I did not make any install from there
[09:56] <CrocoJet> (program)
[09:56] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[09:56] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: if you update you do
[09:56] <ardchoille> Ah, good catch jpatrick
[09:57]  * jpatrick is a backporter
[09:57] <CrocoJet> ok, I will make new install of kubuntu .. without this backport active
[09:57] <factorx> Ok I found out that the flashplugin actually works in firefox, but in opera it does not. any ideas?
[09:57] <CrocoJet> lets go .. brb in 30 min
[09:57] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: good luck
[09:58] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I'd love to use backports, but I don't think I'm smart enough to figure out how to solve the problems it caused me in the past yet.
[09:58] <jpatrick> ardchoille: funny thing is... I hardly have most of the problems others have..
[09:59] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Well, you're a backporter, you can head the problems off before they become problems I think
[10:00] <jpatrick> ardchoille: nah, I just request backports for kde packages that take my fancy
[10:03] <jpatrick> like, right now, I'm doing tork
[10:20] <apparle> I am able to see a large amount of documentation for KDevelop but I want it to be avialable offline. How to get it
[10:21] <jpatrick> apparle: install kdevelop-doc
[10:22] <kipseron> why after i enter to the cdrom the live cd of kubuntu and click on start and install its open a terminal called busybox
[10:22] <kipseron> ?
[10:22] <apparle> jpatrick: I did that. But I didnt get anything
[10:22] <kipseron> how i can continue
[10:22] <ardchoille> apparle: it's probably in /usr/share/docs/kdevelop
[10:23] <apparle> ardchoille: I have seen all the files that the package contains. I contains some .png files which are not at all usefull
[10:25] <kipseron> someone can help me
[10:25] <mneisen> kipseron: maybe?!
[10:25] <apparle> kipseron: what
[10:25] <kipseron> i click on install in the live cd
[10:25] <kipseron> and its open terminal
[10:25] <kipseron> busybox
[10:26] <kipseron> how i can continue the install
[10:26] <mneisen> i dont think that should happen.
[10:26] <kipseron> but its happend
[10:26] <mneisen> if you click on the desktop icon for the install,
[10:26] <kipseron> no
[10:26] <mneisen> a graphical installation tool should run.
[10:26] <kipseron> i enter the live cd
[10:26] <kipseron> and click on start or install
[10:26] <mneisen> so you are running Windows right now?
[10:26] <kipseron> and the terminal busybox is open
[10:26] <kipseron> yes
[10:27] <mneisen> well, i would suggest you shutdown your computer and reboot using the live cd.
[10:27] <kipseron> i do it
[10:27] <kipseron> i reboot and start the live cd
[10:27] <mneisen> the graphical install tool can resize your windows partitions in the unlikely case you want to keep it.
[10:27] <mneisen> :-D
[10:27] <kipseron> and click on start or install
[10:27] <kipseron> and the terminal is up
[10:27] <mneisen> right.
[10:27] <kipseron> you dont understand
[10:27] <mneisen> that may be the case ... :-D
[10:27] <kipseron> i enter the cd
[10:27] <ardchoille> apparle: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdevelop
[10:27] <mneisen> at boot time?
[10:27] <kipseron> the live cd
[10:28] <kipseron> yes
[10:28] <kipseron> its open a menu
[10:28] <kipseron> i click on the one option
[10:28] <kipseron> start or install
[10:28] <kipseron> and the terminal is open
[10:28] <mneisen> i do not think you can "click" at this time.
[10:28] <kipseron> the system dont show up
[10:28] <kipseron> i can
[10:28] <mneisen> do you mean "select"?
[10:28] <kipseron> yes
[10:28] <mneisen> and than, the boot hangs?
[10:28] <mneisen> than=then
[10:28] <kipseron> the system dont show
[10:29] <kipseron> only
[10:29] <kipseron> the busybox terminal
[10:29] <mneisen> ok.
[10:29] <mneisen> tough one.
[10:29] <mneisen> you might have incompatible hardware.
[10:29] <kipseron> no
[10:29] <kipseron> ubuntu 7.04
[10:29] <kipseron> work very well
[10:29] <mneisen> sometimes it happens that the ISO images are defective.
[10:30] <mneisen> Did you burn your CD on your pwn?
[10:30] <kipseron> yes
[10:30] <mneisen> well, excuse for asking that: Did you use data mode?
[10:30] <mneisen> forget that.
[10:30] <mneisen> you see grub.
[10:30] <mneisen> so, you did burn it alright.
[10:31] <kipseron> so what the problem
[10:31] <mneisen> well, my suggestion is: re-download the ISO image, check the md5sum, and then burn it to a new medium.
[10:31] <mneisen> happened to me once.
[10:31] <kipseron> i check the md5sum
[10:31] <kipseron> before i burn it
[10:31] <kipseron> but i try againg
[10:31] <kipseron> again
[10:31] <kipseron> who know
[10:31] <mneisen> yes, thats why I said "burn to a different/new medium."
[10:32] <mneisen> good luck.
[10:32] <kipseron> thanks
[10:34] <mneisen> your welcome.
[10:34] <deeploy> hi
[10:34] <deeploy> who are you ?
[10:35] <bazhang> deeploy: do you have a support question?
[10:35] <deeploy> support question ?
[10:35] <bazhang> deeploy: this is a support channel
[10:36] <deeploy> yeah.. first are you a bot XD
[10:36] <deeploy> ?
[10:37] <deeploy> and is there anybody speaking french here :s ?
[10:37] <bazhang> !fr | deeploy
[10:37] <ubotu> deeploy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:38] <deeploy> mais merde ^^ je pige que dalle
[10:39] <ardchoille> !language | deeploy
[10:39] <ubotu> deeploy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[10:40] <deeploy> first, I gotta know how it works -_-
[10:40] <deeploy> I'm talking to a bot ...
[10:40] <deeploy> -_-
[10:40] <Jucato> you aren't
[10:40] <Jucato> now behave
[10:41] <deeploy> behave. .. you must be kidding ^^ it's the first time I'm here, and I'm feeling lost like if I was born 10 secondes ago
[10:41] <deeploy> it's scary :p
[10:41] <ardchoille> deeploy: Then post your support question in the form that is suitable for this channel.
[10:41] <Kohlrabi> WELCOME TO TAH INTAWEB!
[10:41] <bazhang> deeploy: perhaps you should join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:41] <Kohlrabi> *scnr*
[10:42] <Jucato> no caps please Kohlrabi
[10:42] <deeploy> I need to fill a formular or something to join you guys ?
[10:42] <Jucato> deeploy: the French Ubuntu and Kubuntu users can be found at #ubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-fr
[10:42] <Kohlrabi> deeploy: just ask away if you need support
[10:42] <Kohlrabi> If you're lucky someone is here who can answer it
[10:43] <Jucato> just click on the name of the channel or type /j #kubuntu-fr
[10:43] <Jucato> (or the name of the channel)
[10:43] <deeploy> ok
[10:43] <frinuxfr> hi
[10:43] <deeploy> hello
[10:43] <deeploy> ^^
[10:47] <apparle_> how do i get to use m nick apparle back
[10:48] <Jucato> !ghost
[10:48] <ubotu> On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[10:49] <apparle_> ghost apparle darkmark
[10:50] <Jucato> better change your password apparle_
[10:50] <Jucato> and it only works if you put "/msg nickserv" before that
[10:53] <ninjagambit> ok i just installed kubuntu but when i did update it said: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[10:53] <apparle> from where do i get the documentation for kdevelop
[10:53] <ninjagambit> any ideas what to do now
[10:53] <ninjagambit> ?
[10:56] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: try: "sudo apt-get install -f" in the konsole
[10:57] <ninjagambit> can you explain a little about what that will do
[10:57] <ninjagambit> just so i can learn a little from this
[10:57] <ninjagambit> plz
[10:59] <zaki_10> hi
[11:02] <poison--> !sql
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <poison--> :(
[11:02] <poison--> mornin guys
[11:03] <apparle> anybody here uses Kdevelp
[11:04] <ninjagambit> it says
[11:05] <ninjagambit> wait can i post 15 lines
[11:05] <apparle> KDevelop!
[11:06] <apparle> !KDevelop
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <sigma> does anyone know how to use xrandr to activate the tv out on the xorg radeon driver?
[11:09] <spiritz> sigma: you can active it just like a regular 2nd screen
[11:10] <spiritz> there's a swift kmdr for that. Hold on.
[11:10] <spiritz> Check this out : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/xramdr?content=70521
[11:10] <sigma> spiritz: but how? i have tried everything but xrandr always says the tv out is disconnected even when its connected
[11:12] <spiritz> sigma: I'm not sure how to do that.
[11:12] <spiritz> sigma: you may want to try out options in your xorg.conf to force the output to tv-out.
[11:13] <jpatrick> !pastebin > ninjagambit
[11:13] <frojnd> how can I find a file name called: John zappa.mp3 ?
[11:13] <ninjagambit> thanks
[11:13] <kipseron> find / -name |zappa.mp3
[11:13] <ninjagambit> but i think that worked
[11:14] <jpatrick> :)
[11:14] <ninjagambit> i selected y
[11:14] <stuffcorpse> hello, i'm getting 'malformed url trash:/' from kicker applet. my default file manager is dolphin. can anyone help me with solving this?
[11:14] <ninjagambit> but also i installed gutsy but after update it asked if i wanted to upgrade to new version
[11:15] <apparle> how to get security updates
[11:15] <jpatrick> apparle: add the gutsy-security line to sources.list
[11:16] <ninjagambit> what would it upgrade to
[11:16] <jpatrick> ninjagambit: sorry, dunno
[11:17] <ninjagambit> i didnt want to click on it yet  but how do you get the update manager back up
[11:17] <sigma> spritz: that force tv out is what i have been trying to do but what do i add to the xorg.conf to force the tv out?
[11:19] <FlashWolf> 'morning guys :)
[11:20] <FlashWolf> how do i run xarals here?
[11:20] <FlashWolf> *xaralx
[11:21] <sigma> ok i downloaded a kommander script but how do i run it?
[11:23] <CrocoJet> back !!
[11:23] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: how'd it go?
[11:23] <CrocoJet> and flash plugin do not works in konqueror
[11:23] <stuffcorpse> i solved it nevermind
[11:24] <sigma> CrocoJet: use firefox it works there
[11:24] <CrocoJet> oh ok
[11:24] <jpatrick> CrocoJet: you have to rescan for plugins in the config
[11:25] <CrocoJet> jpatrick, ok, but about:plugins its show like installed
[11:25] <CrocoJet> re-scanned .. let me test
[11:25] <jpatrick> odd
[11:26] <CrocoJet> no success
[11:26] <CrocoJet> when I try to close window konqueror
[11:27] <CrocoJet> signal 11 (sigsegv)
[11:27] <FlashWolf> does someone here have xara?
[11:27] <sigma> i downloaded a kommander script from www.kde-apps.org, how do i run it?
[11:28] <ere4si> sigma: what is the file ext?
[11:28] <sigma> ere4si: its .kmdr
[11:29] <sigma> ere4si: i got it from here - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/xramdr?content=70521
[11:30] <ere4si> sigma: is there an install script - I'm not familiar with that?
[11:32] <DarkFoxDK> hi, im getting this strange graphics glitch on my compaq armada e500, when i log in there is a black box in the top-left corner about 64x64px, it disappears if i open Konsole and type something then delete it.. it seems..
[11:33] <sigma> ere4si: nope its just that one script
[11:33] <ere4si> sigma: does double clicking it work?
[11:34] <sigma> nope that just opens it in a text editor
[11:36] <CrocoJet> exist "ubuntu Restrited Extras" for kubuntu ?
[11:36] <ere4si> sigma: close the file then right click - choose properties then permissions - check executable then close and open terminal and run with the command - /path/to/file
[11:36] <amit> not able to play mp3 in amarok..installed gutsy ..what to do?
[11:38] <CrocoJet> I heard that exist in ubuntu one script that make install flash, java, etc
[11:38] <DarkFoxDK> automatix2 or easyubuntu
[11:38] <ere4si> or enable all repositories in synaptic
[11:40] <amit> ere4si: how to get mp3 support in amarok
[11:40] <ere4si> first - open synaptic package manager from the menu - yes?
[11:40] <FlashWolf> amit: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:41] <sigma> ere4si: ok i marked it an executable, what do i type in the command line to run it?
[11:41] <amit> FlashWolf: okay..thanks..will do that..
[11:41] <amit> FlashWolf: can you tell me what extra repositories are to be added in /etc/apt/sources.lst?
[11:41] <FlashWolf> amit: just enable the default repos
[11:41] <ere4si> sigma: the path to the file - e.g. /home/you/file
[11:42] <poison--> <CrocoJet, yes there is
[11:42] <amit> FlashWolf: stopped using debian a few years ago man..so forgot half of it..  well..what about the special multimedia repos?
[11:42] <poison--> go to "add/remove programs" and search for "kubuntu"
[11:42] <ere4si> amit: uncomment multiverse and universe
[11:42] <FlashWolf> amit: are u using gutsy or feisty
[11:43] <FlashWolf> ?
[11:43] <amit> FlashWolf: gutsy
[11:44] <FlashWolf> so, disable all 3rd party repos and enable the default
[11:44] <sigma> ok that worked but the program ran a error
[11:44] <FlashWolf> and run that cmd
[11:44] <MidMark> sigma: you need kommander to use .kmdr
[11:44] <CrocoJet> poison--, do I need active some special repository for get this command or program called "ubuntu Restrited Extras"
[11:44] <ere4si> sigma: the error?
[11:45] <sigma> MidMark: does that hav to be installed seperately?
[11:45] <poison--> no
[11:45] <MidMark> you find under adept
[11:45] <MidMark> after installed you can double click on any .kmdr file
[11:45] <poison--> just pay attention to the instalation, u need to accept some java stuff
[11:45] <sigma> ere4si: /home/sigma/Desktop/xrandr.kmdr: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
[11:45] <amit> FlashWolf: I was thinking of using Adept... is it as good as synaptic?
[11:46] <FlashWolf> amit: sicerely, a rather synaptic. i disabled adept here
[11:46] <FlashWolf> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:46] <MidMark> sigma: here it works that file, install kommander :)
[11:46] <ere4si> sigma: the script is prob wrong for your install - others here have relavant comments for that - I'd need to see the script
[11:47] <MidMark> the script works under Gutsy ;)
[11:47] <ere4si> sigma: do you have kommander?
[11:47] <sigma> ere4si: nope downloading it now!
[11:47] <ere4si> k
[11:47] <sigma> MidMark: are you using gutsy?
[11:47] <MidMark> yes I have said
[11:48] <amit> FlashWolf: ubuntu doesn't use aptitude by default does it? cuz the debian guys are recommending aptitude these days
[11:48] <MidMark> install kommander!
[11:48] <FlashWolf> amit: ya, u can use aptitude too
[11:49] <FlashWolf> but i dont knoe what is the defalut
[11:49] <FlashWolf> *default
[11:49] <MidMark> sigma: you tried to launch as normal bash script but it isn't, so why that error
[11:50] <amit> FlashWolf: Kubuntu Gutsy is pretty buggy...
[11:50] <sigma> it works:) thanks MidMark and ere4si. just hope it works on my laptop
[11:50] <FlashWolf> amit: i dont think so
[11:50] <ere4si> well done!
[11:51] <FlashWolf> i'm using and i'm liking it
[11:51] <sigma> amit: i find it more stable than Feisty with one huge load of bug fixes!
[11:51] <FlashWolf> just some little bugs found so far
[11:51] <ere4si> !aptitude
[11:51] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:51] <sigma> ok lemme go try it, i shall report back
[11:51] <ere4si> k
[11:52] <amit> sigma: feisty was that bad..eh? FlashWolf yeah agreed nothing prominent...except that virtual terminals thing
[11:53] <amit> hey guys..is it safe to uninstall adept?
[11:53] <FlashWolf> amit: just disable it
[11:53] <amit> FlashWolf: disable as in?
[11:53] <FlashWolf> or u can unninstall it and update your system via aptitude/apt-get upgrade
[11:53] <sigma> amit: na not really, i ordered the ubuntu cd first, then heard about kubuntu. for some reason when i got the kubuntu disk i had to re-format the pc about 5 times before it worked properly
[12:02] <CrocoJet> do I need uncomment backport to get "kubuntu Restrited Extras" ?
[12:04] <sigma> MidMark and ere4si, are u guys still there? i have a slight problem
[12:05] <CrocoJet> help .. I need somebody help ...
[12:05] <Kohlrabi> ... not just anybody *sings*
[12:05] <CrocoJet> lol
[12:05] <MidMark> !ask
[12:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:06] <CrocoJet> how can I get "kubuntu-restricted-extras" from terminal ?
[12:06] <CrocoJet> famous meta-package
[12:06] <MidMark> why terminal?
[12:06] <ere4si> sigma: ?
[12:06] <CrocoJet> I want make install flash, java ... etc
[12:07] <CrocoJet> not problem for me .. via terminal
[12:07] <CrocoJet> but here "kubuntu-restricted-extras" is not avail
[12:07] <MidMark> here yes, so probably you have to enable universe
[12:07] <MidMark> !universe
[12:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:07] <CrocoJet> do I need uncomment some repository ?
[12:07] <MidMark> sorru it's in multiverse
[12:07] <MidMark> !multiverse
[12:08] <CrocoJet> MidMark, let me see
[12:08] <Kohlrabi> CrocoJet: add multiverse to your sources.list
[12:08] <Kohlrabi> i.e. uncomment it
[12:08] <Kohlrabi> then update & install
[12:08] <MidMark> or just select it under adept
[12:08] <MidMark> easier solution
[12:08] <Kohlrabi> mhja
[12:09] <sigma> ere4si: i got the program on my laptop, have it connected to the tv, but when i try add the svideo as the 2nd monitor (mirror) nothing happens, but i change the resolution of the laptops lcd that changes but the svideo soesn't activate
[12:09] <Kohlrabi> he wanted to use the terminal ;P
[12:09] <sigma> doesn't active
[12:09] <CrocoJet> add multiverse .. but how ?
[12:09] <ere4si> sigma: you're vid card needs the right driver it seems
[12:09] <MidMark> CrocoJet: use adept! -> manage repositaries
[12:10] <CrocoJet> let me see
[12:10] <ere4si> !adept
[12:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:11] <ere4si> sigma: lappy vid card is...?
[12:11] <sigma> ere4si: i have a ati radeon 9000 mobility using the xorg driver - theres no other driver i can use and it was said that driver supported tv out but you have to force detection in the xorg.conf - how do i do that?
[12:11] <sigma> ere4si: look above
[12:11] <ere4si> k
[12:11] <CrocoJet> damn .. no multiverse option to active
[12:11] <CrocoJet> ops sorry
[12:12] <CrocoJet> is active multiverse
[12:12] <CrocoJet> but I cant find "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[12:12] <sigma> crocojet: just get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <CrocoJet> got it .. finally !!! Ufa !
[12:13] <sigma> ere4si: all the sites i went to say you have to force tv out detection in xorg.conf but none say how to do it
[12:13] <ere4si> sigma: found a post on the forums
[12:13] <CrocoJet> installing now
[12:13] <sigma> ere4si: whats the link?
[12:15] <ere4si> sigma: here - http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606540
[12:15] <CrocoJet> adept use different refresh repository than apt-get .. and aptitude
[12:15] <CrocoJet> Evil !!! like say Mr. Bush !
[12:15] <CrocoJet> ...why everything is Evil in the world ?
[12:15] <CrocoJet> lol
[12:17] <CrocoJet> is installing .. pretty smooth now .. :)
[12:17] <CrocoJet> thanks .. for all .. help
[12:18] <CrocoJet> beginners are pain in the a**
[12:18] <sigma> ere4si: but that doesn't say how to force tv detection in xorg - its more about attaching a 2nd monitor to the laptop - i can already do that with no hassles
[12:18] <ere4si> k
[12:21] <MidMark> sigma: have you tried booting with the cable inserted?
[12:22] <ere4si> sigma: the bottom comment links a patch that might work??? - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-239347.html
[12:22] <Kohlrabi> sigma: maybe that helps?: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-October/029821.html
[12:22] <Kohlrabi> Option "TVDACLoadDetect" "TRUE"
[12:22] <Kohlrabi> hmm
[12:22] <Kohlrabi> it says ATI
[12:22] <Kohlrabi> :(
[12:24] <_philipp> Hi all, what do u think of my idea to improve the usability of the trash bin: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153492
[12:24] <Kohlrabi> or that: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/NVidia/TV-OUT
[12:25] <sigma> MidMark: yup tried that - still said it was disconnected, when i tried my external vga port just now that worked perfectly
[12:26] <sigma> Kohlrabi and ere4si: thanks for the links - im checking them out now
[12:26] <Kohlrabi> np
[12:27] <sigma> Kohlrabi: thats the command i wanted ! let me try it out
[12:28] <Kohlrabi> great :)
[12:28] <Kohlrabi> For a moment I thought you mentioned nVidida back then, but OK
[12:30] <X314> okay. i have a 16x burner.. that used to come up to around 12x.. now that I have switched the computer to Kubuntu. it only goes up to around 1.5x with k3b. any ideas?
[12:30] <sigma> lol no its a ATI, i have a Nvidia in my desktop
[12:30] <X314> ah. and its 16x dvd burning.
[12:30] <sigma> X314: ouch what make?
[12:30] <X314> plextron I think
[12:30] <X314> Plextor*
[12:30] <Kohlrabi> Plextor is great :D
[12:31] <sigma> X314: neva heard of it, what discs are you using?
[12:31] <Kohlrabi> x314: do you dtermine speed automatically?
[12:31] <Kohlrabi> maybe you can set the speed manually
[12:31] <X314> TDK DVD-R ffp
[12:31] <Kohlrabi> or the media are bad, hm
[12:32] <sigma> X314: try a Verbatim 16x DVD
[12:32] <X314> Kohlrabi: well.. tryed both.. but the software buffer is full. but the device buffer goes down.
[12:32] <Kohlrabi> X314: ok, I have a plextor myself, though I never burned with kubuntu
[12:33] <X314> sigma: only have an old 4x DVD+RW verbatim
[12:33] <Kohlrabi> And I remember having issues with some media, though I don't remember if it were TDK's
[12:33] <X314> Kohlrabi: tdk's always worked great for me
[12:33] <Kohlrabi> X314: ok :)
[12:34] <Kohlrabi> sigma: any luck with TV yet?
[12:35] <sigma> Kohlrabi and ere4si and MidMark: even after that addition to my Xorg.conf it still says the s-video is disconnected
[12:35] <sigma> i don't understand why it can see it but not use it?
[12:36] <sigma> ok hang on that website says it needs the ati driver and im using the "radeon" one, does that make a difference?
[12:36] <Kohlrabi> sigma: maybe that stuff form the wikibooks-link about nvidia/TV-out is also valid for ATI
[12:36] <Kohlrabi> sigma: maybe try fglrx
[12:36] <Kohlrabi> sigma: though fglrx will break compiz
[12:36] <Kohlrabi> (for now)
[12:37] <Kohlrabi> i.e. compiz won't work with fglrx
[12:37] <Kohlrabi> !ati
[12:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:38] <Kohlrabi> sigma?
[12:39] <sigma> Kohlrabi: fglrx no longer supports my card
[12:39] <mikkael> if i lock my screen there are gl snowflakes in the background. where can i disable it ?
[12:39] <ere4si> sigma: it's a long standing prob for that card - still searching
[12:39] <Kohlrabi> sigma: too bad :(
[12:40] <Kohlrabi> sigma: got a 8*** AIW?
[12:40] <Kohlrabi> or something?
[12:41] <sigma> oh my gosh i have a image on the tv:)
[12:42] <X314> so I'm guessing I will have to live with it beeing slow for now?
[12:43] <ere4si> sigma: how/
[12:43] <ere4si> *?
[12:43] <sigma> ere4si and Kohlrabi: i used the ati-xorg driver and that outputed a image on the tv but its rather garbled - how do i make it clear? it also can't play video's - can i make it do that somehow?
[12:44] <Kohlrabi> sigma: I don't know, sorry
[12:44] <ere4si> sigma: found this - http://dir.filewatcher.com/-/?q=tv+out
[12:44] <Kohlrabi> great find :D
[12:46] <sigma> sorry tried that one! it doesn't work with my chip
[12:46] <sigma> well i guess this was the first attempt by the xorg team to get it working so it can only get better from here on in
[12:47] <motopicco85> hi, when I install kubuntu 7.10 I lose the start screen with the word "kubuntu" and under this word the bar of advancement..in Kubuntu 7.04 I had it..can you help me to have it in Gutsy?
[12:49] <ere4si> sigma: being an older card you might be better with 6.04 lts version of the k/ubuntu's ?
[12:50] <sigma> ere4si: but thats so buggy compared to gutsy! is it possible to compile that fglrx driver for gutsy? i can get the driver from ati.com
[12:51] <Kohlrabi> sigma: what's your card's model?
[12:51] <ere4si> sigma: I've never tried...
[12:52] <ere4si> no offence - just curious - isn't kohlrabi a salad?
[12:52] <llutz> ere4si: kind of cabbage
[12:53] <ere4si> knew it was healthy some way :)
[12:53] <Kohlrabi> I am!
[12:53] <ere4si> ^_^
[12:54] <Kohlrabi> sigma: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/previous/linux-r-8-28-8.html try installing this driver
[12:54] <sigma> kohlrabi: its a ati mobility radeon 9000
[12:55] <Kohlrabi> sigma: it's the last one supporting R200-cards
[12:55] <sigma> yup thats the last one that supports my card
[12:55] <Kohlrabi> ok, you know :p
[12:55] <sigma> but can you help - which file on that page do i download and how do i install it? those instructions confuse me
[12:56] <atomicnation> hello
[12:56] <atomicnation> i need help with my kubuntu
[12:56] <Kohlrabi> sigma: read https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8-inst.html first
[12:56] <atomicnation> somebody has an correct souces.list?
[12:57] <Kohlrabi> sigma: and it should be best to load https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run I think
[12:57] <_nix_> hello everybody.. anyone know what I need to install to get ktorrent's web-gui working? It says php-executable not found in path..
[12:58] <ere4si> sigma: that link is for a rpm which is not a kubuntu package...
[12:58] <sigma> ok il give that a shot when my repo dvd's arrive. however il hav 2find sumwer to download that file
[12:58] <Kohlrabi> sigma: I never really installed the drivers that way, so I don't know how it works exactly
[12:59] <sigma> na the .run packages work in kubuntu - alot of games come packaged like that
[12:59] <Kohlrabi> yep
[12:59] <Kohlrabi> I think UT-linux and the like
[13:00] <sigma> do you know how i can stop kwrite and kate from creating those annoying backup files everytime i save a file?
[13:02] <SSJ_GZ> sigma: Configure Editor -> Open/ Save -> Backup on Save -> Uncheck local files
[13:02] <Jucato> sigma: Settings -> Configure Editor (in KWrite) or Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor -> Open/Save
[13:02] <SSJ_GZ> Jucato: :p
[13:02] <Jucato> mine was more complete :P
[13:02]  * Jucato sulks in the corner
[13:03] <ere4si> sigma: it is when you change a file - but no... :)
[13:04] <SSJ_GZ> Hehe :)
[13:04] <sigma> Jucato: thanks that solved it!
[13:04] <Bandit12> what would you guys recommend for an ftp server on Kubuntu
[13:05] <llutz> anyone using a Nvidia Quadro NVS 285 and had any trouble with it? does glx/dri work with nvidia-glx?
[13:05] <llutz> Bandit12: vsftpd
[13:05] <Jucato> !ftpd
[13:05] <ubotu> FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[13:07] <Bandit12> ok lets narrow that down to something not to difficult for a beginner
[13:07] <llutz> Bandit12: still vsftpd, you'll have to read a lot anyway
[13:12] <XBehave> i want to listen to radio1 online is there an alternative to realplayer that will let me do this? (i can use the wmp stream but not catchup)
[13:12] <Kohlrabi> maybe mplayer can play it
[13:12] <Kohlrabi> well
[13:12] <Kohlrabi> let me rephrase: most probably mplayer can play it ;)
[13:14] <Lynoure> XBehave: and there is also RealPlayer 10, if you can deal with closed source stuff
[13:14] <Bandit12> XBehave i have Radio1 playing now on there own web player thingumybob
[13:16] <XBehave> thx ill try mplayer and then realplayer if i have to
[13:16] <XBehave> Bandit12: what are you using?
[13:18] <Bandit12> XBehave: It's there web based player www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/listen/ and click the listen to radio 1 now link this opens a new window with the RP and WM links but theres a button on the left called Play
[13:20] <XBehave> but do you have RP or mplayer installed?
[13:20] <Bandit12> i have mplayer installed
[13:22] <XBehave> thx
[13:22] <jlarsson> Hi
[13:23] <jlarsson> i wonder if it is compis and xgl in the new kubunu 7.10 ?
[13:23] <jlarsson> pre installed
[13:29] <posingaspopular> jlarsson: no but you can active it
[13:29] <posingaspopular> !compiz | jlarsson
[13:29] <ubotu> jlarsson: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:29] <posingaspopular> afk
[13:34] <XBehave> thx it turned out i had mplayer installed but it was being overwritten by xine which couldnt do the streaming or the buttons. mplayer is fully functional no need to consider dirty RealPlayer (i hated it on windows stupid adware) :D
[13:41] <pfein> what do y'all use for adblock filters in konqueror?
[13:42] <Jucato> Konqueror has a built-in adblock filter. and iirc Kubuntu puts in a default list in there
[13:42] <pfein> Jucato: yeah, I wanted to update it, it was missing some stuff
[13:43] <pfein> well, actually, I tried to import some lists from the AdBlockPlus site, & now it doesn't work at all...
[13:44] <pfein> hmm, filterset.g appears to work
[13:44] <pfein> whee, that was easy
[13:59] <ubuntu_> ciaooo
[13:59] <ubuntu_> ho un super problema, chi mi può aiutare??
[13:59] <ere4si> !pg
[13:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:00] <ere4si> !pt
[14:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:01] <Jucato> ere4si: it was italian btw
[14:01] <ere4si> I'm illiterate :)
[14:03] <Jucato> [21:58] --> ubuntu_ has joined this channel (n=ubuntu@host210-169-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it). <--- the .it is a big clue :)
[14:05] <sam_> hi.. i woud like to monitor my internet usage i have a ADSL router..
[14:11] <mallize> can anyone tell me where to get the plugin SnowGlobe mentioned here http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/compiz-fusion-community-news-for-decemeber-5-2007-keep-those-plugins-coming/
[14:14]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[14:20] <ahmad> hey all
[14:20] <jembouge> hey all too
[14:20] <ahmad> please i have an emergency question
[14:20] <xstat> hello, has anyone installed kxdocker-1.1.4a on kubuntu gutsy???
[14:20] <ahmad> i just finished from installing kubuntu 7.10
[14:20] <ahmad> and i would like to mount my hdd drive
[14:20] <ahmad> how to ?!
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: is it a usb hdd?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: or internal?
[14:21] <ahmad> ActionParsnip:internal
[14:21] <login_> OI
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> xstat: what issue are you having
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: it should be automounted
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: check /mnt and /media
[14:22] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: it wasn't
[14:22] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i will give you the error message
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok cool
[14:22] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: hold on please
[14:22] <xstat> actionparsnip, everything's ok, kxdocker opens and show the dock but i have a persistent problem in dragging icons to the dock... it says that Mouse Grabbing failed with "AlreadyGrabbed"
[14:22] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[14:23] <jembouge> lol I got the same pb
[14:23] <jembouge> with an external
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: tried it as sudo
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> sudo mount ....
[14:23] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: sudo mount only ?! or there are any arguments ?
[14:23] <jembouge> that's probably bc your partition/disk is NTFS
[14:23] <jembouge> isn't it ahmad?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> xstat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294511
[14:24] <ahmad> jembouge : my partitions are NTFS as you say
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> xstat: that may help
[14:24] <ahmad> :D
[14:25] <jembouge> actually you should have an icon for your drive in either /mnt or /media
[14:25] <jembouge> if you want your disk mounted, say in /mnt/new_disk
[14:25] <ahmad> i have .. but i would like to access the files in it
[14:25] <xstat> actionparsnip, ok, i'll check it, do you know if there is other way to add icons to kxdocker without dragging them??
[14:26] <jembouge> create a folder first (/mnt/new_disk)
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> xstat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294511&page=4
[14:26] <jembouge> then type in a command:  sudo /dev/xxxxxx   /mnt/new_disk
[14:26] <ahmad> and then ?!
[14:26] <jembouge> replace xxxx
[14:26] <ahmad> jembouge : and then ?!
[14:26] <jembouge> by the name of the device
[14:26] <jembouge> oops
[14:26] <jembouge> i forgot
[14:27] <jembouge> sudo mount /dev/xxxx /mnt/new_device
[14:27] <ahmad> forgot what !?
[14:27] <jembouge> the "mount" command
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> xstat: you could try renaming the profile part of your profile for kxdocker and rerun
[14:27] <ahmad> i tried it
[14:27] <ahmad> and it failes ... i assume it is my fault
[14:27] <jembouge> but ahmad, you should get the name of your device
[14:27] <jembouge> and replace the xxxx with it
[14:27] <jembouge> you can get it's name if you find the icon KDE shows
[14:28] <jembouge> probably in /media
[14:28] <ahmad> i cann't find any drives in /dev
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: can you paste your fstab file
[14:28] <ahmad> i tried /media either
[14:28] <ahmad> and it was negative
[14:28] <xstat> actionparsnip, i've allready checked that page from ubuntu froums but couldn't get the problem solved, maybe i have to aproach it from other angle, not from kxdocker, maybe it's a xserver config problem
[14:29] <jembouge> ahmad: do what ActionParsnip is saying to get the name of the device :)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> xstat: try running it as kdesu just to test
[14:29] <jembouge> should be a /dev/sdaX where X is a number
[14:30] <ahmad> how can i get the fstab file ... excuse me folks .. i am new to linux
[14:30] <jembouge> (I'm too :p  )
[14:30] <ubuntu_> Iam trying to install Kubuntu but dont know what Mount point I need to set on my saving disk for movies etc. I have one ntfs with Windows XP, one / for kubuntu, one /home and one /swap. What do I need to set on the last partition for movies?
[14:31] <jembouge> but just go to media:/  and point the mouse on the disk that you want mounted, it will tell you something like "sdaX" somewhere in the tooltip
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: set it to whatever you want, the mounting will be added to your fstab at install
[14:31] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: how can i get the fstab file ?!
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ubotu: call it /movies if you want
[14:31] <jembouge> forget it
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: /etc/fstab
[14:31] <ubuntu_> ooh I can do that ;)
[14:31] <tuxwulf_> What can I do about the live CD not starting up properly because "Can not open tty: job control not started"...?
[14:32] <xstat> actionparsnip, nothing happens, maybe it's the mouse configuration in xorg-conf that's causing the problem, it's set to ImPS/2, i have a Genius 2 button with scroll PS2 optical mouse, wich other driver could be set to make some test??
[14:32] <jembouge> (/etc/fstab)
[14:32] <jembouge> lol sorry you said it
[14:33] <ubuntu_> thanks for the help
[14:33] <ahmad> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[14:33] <ahmad> #
[14:33] <ahmad> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[14:33] <ahmad> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[14:33] <ahmad> # /dev/sda8
[14:33] <ahmad> UUID=3c0f8d09-dcd6-4e6a-bb0d-b21f80d6f83a /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[14:33] <ahmad> # /dev/sda9
[14:33] <ahmad> UUID=2ac31a54-a2c3-42c7-a959-300c5963650f none            swap    sw              0       0
[14:33] <ahmad> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[14:33] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: did that help !?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: yeah but use the paste site
[14:34] <Jucato> !pastebin
[14:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:35] <jembouge> I guess his partition isn't shown in the list
[14:35] <ahmad> ActionParsnip:what is paste site ?! i feel like idiottt :'(
[14:35] <jembouge> read above
[14:35] <jembouge> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[14:36] <jembouge> you don't have to feel this way, we all went through it :p
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> !pastebin | ahmad
[14:36] <ubotu> ahmad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: you paste in there then send us the link you get
[14:36] <ahmad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47098/
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> xstat: can you find kxdocker_conf.xml
[14:37] <ahmad> ActionParsnip:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47098/
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: thats how you do it. we can now analse your fstab file
[14:38] <ubuntu> how do I set a swap to a partion in the installation? I trayied to set "mount point" to /swap the the installation sayes that I havent chose a swap and have to go back.
[14:38] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: good to know such good information !! :D
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu: you need to set the type as linuxswap
[14:39] <xstat> actionparsnip. yes, i have two of them one in /usr/share/apps/kxdocker and the other one it my home folder under .kde directory, you think the problem might be in the config file??
[14:39] <ubuntu> moint point: /linuxswap ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ubotu: you need to change the filesystem type to linuxswap
[14:40] <ubuntu> aha
[14:40] <ubuntu> thanks again
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xstat: kill kxdocker and rename the one in .kde so it is backed up
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xstat: then rerun
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xstat: let us know how it goes
[14:41] <pteague_work> ok, the eclipse package dependency seems completely nuts... especially considering i downloaded eclipse for linux off their site & have installed a bunch of tools & haven't had any issues... now, attempting to install eclipse via aptitude, it wants to download 72 packages (161mb)... ?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> !eclipse
[14:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:42] <tko_> hi
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> pteague_work: if apt says you need it, you need it
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> hi tko_
[14:42] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: so what did you get ?
[14:43] <pteague_work> why do i need ant & junit for eclipse?  the only reason i need those is if i'm doing java development
[14:43] <llutz> pteague_work: stop aptitude from installing recommends
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: does your drive pick up in the bios at power on?
[14:43] <pteague_work> ah, gotcha
[14:43] <Jucato> pteague_work: aptitude installs recommends by default. use -R to stop that
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: have you just taken the drive out of another pc and stuck it in your system
[14:44] <Jucato> or use apt-get (which doesn't install recommends by default)
[14:44] <tko_> Folks,i have an question regarding installing soundcard on my notebook
[14:45] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i just installed this system after i removed mandriva .. and my system is latpop .. so i didn't stuck the hdd to it
[14:45] <traveller77> hi, could you someone clarify this "developers plan on implementing a new strategy which will allow Kubuntu to catch-up with some of the functionality of Ubuntu"
[14:45] <TheNo1Yeti> tko: just ask the question.  No need for a preface. :)
[14:45] <traveller77> appeared on the kubuntu.org, regarding the herdy version
[14:45] <xstat> actionparsnip, i think it uses the one in /usr/share, i renamed it and rerun and asked for the config file, i pressed cancel and the same problem again
[14:45] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: would you like me to reboot to check if the drive is picked in start up or not ?!
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok so you are on a laptop with an internal hardrive that boots ok an you are trying to mount a usb hard drive
[14:45] <traveller77> is ubuntu more funnctional than kubuntu and in what way?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: is that right]
[14:46] <xstat> actionparsnip: checking the xonfig file i see the only icon set in the dock, maybe i could add some other in the config file to see if apears
[14:46] <tko_> lol,thanks
[14:46] <tko_> i have an Lenovo 3000 n100, i know that there many tutorials in the net
[14:46] <Bandit12> with sharing folders is there away that when you share 1 folder the folders within that get shared aswell?
[14:46] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: nooo .. i already can't read my internal hdd .. i read its name and can't access its contetns :(
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: so you are running from the live cd?
[14:47] <xstat> actionparsnip: do you have installed kxdocker on youyr system?? if do could you send me your config file to see how kxdocker saves icon data in config file?
[14:47] <ahmad> no .. from hdd
[14:47] <ahmad> i installed the kubuntu itself from the alternate CD
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> xstat: I dont have it installed. I'd have figured renaming the config file would foce a fresh one to be created
[14:47] <TheNo1Yeti> Bandit12: If you are talking about changing the folder permissions to be readable by other users than just you, you can do a recursive change.   -R from a command line.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: accept my chat offer
[14:49] <Bandit12> i have a music folder and when i put new stuff in i wanted that available across my home network automatically.
[14:49] <xstat> actionparsnip: yes, but the problem reappears, i really don't know where could be the problem at, but i know it can be solved, just don't know how :-S
[14:49] <pteague_work> ok, 29 new with 86.3mb is a bit more reasonable... still trying to install eclipse-source, junit & ant though :(  ... hmm...  i wonder if the 'eclipse' package is just a dependency package & really doesn't provide anything
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> xstat: try uninstalling then reinstalling
[14:50] <ahmad> i think i already accepted !!
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: so you have installed kubuntu to a laptop with a single hard drive
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: where is the other drive if it is not usb
[14:50] <jembouge> Bandit12: I think if you're sharing with samba, then folders within your shared folder should be shared to
[14:50] <jembouge> it's recursive
[14:50] <xstat> actionparsnip, don't think the problem would get solved by that, i have installed it many times form sources now i'm using checkinstall to build and install it as a deb package to easely remove it
[14:51] <annemarie> where can i find network printer support for kubuntu?
[14:51] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: internal .. the HDD of the laptop !!
[14:51] <pteague_work> yep, looks like eclipse is just a bundle of dependencies...  time to go dig
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: so what is kubuntu installed to?
[14:51] <jembouge> ActionParsnip: ahmad probably mens a partition then
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: the same drive you cannot read?
[14:51] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok do you have a seperate partition desired to store user data
[14:52] <jembouge> OMG, I hope for you that you didn't ...
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> xstat: have you tried kibadock?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> jembouge: wassup?
[14:53] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: first i deleted the partition was holding the mantundiva from windows .. and then i installed the kubuntu over it - assumig that the setup will re-organize the partitions again as it likes - and then here i am
[14:53] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i even can't installa any programs .. i don't know whassup !!
[14:54] <jembouge> I just wondered whether ahmad had "replaced" his ntfs partition by the linux one, yet wanted to keep it.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ok so you want to mount your windows partition?
[14:54] <ahmad> yes
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: why didnt you say that then?
[14:54] <ahmad> because you did't ask what partition i want to mount !!
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> you were on about disks
[14:55] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: do you already know the solution ?!
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: took ages to realise you were on a laptop
[14:55] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: please be nice.
[14:55] <xstat> actionparsnip, yes i have installed it once, but i have solved many installation problems, i think this is the last to solve
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok so you have a windows partiotion you would like to access from kubuntu
[14:56] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i am on a laptop .. i have 1 hdd .. i have windows XP on separate partition .. and other 2 partitions .. i want to mount the 3 partitions
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xstat: short of reinstalling and renaming the profiles i'm pretty stumped
[14:56] <ahmad> ActionParsnip: i wish it is clear by now !
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> xstat: sorry :(
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: ok cool, gimme a sec
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: probably easiest done by useing the mount config in systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions
[14:57] <xstat> actionparsnip thank you anyway you had helped me a lot
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: sudo fdisk -l
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: this will show you which partition your windows is on as 1 will be ntfs
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ahmad: this will help loads
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> ActionParsnip: mount config is a ton easier than all that CLI stuff.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> nosrednaekim: fair point
[14:59] <ahmad> Question :: can i mount a NTFS from kubuntu !?
[14:59] <genii> nosrednaekim: Looks like you drove them off LOL
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: yes
[15:00]  * genii puts on another pot of coffee
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> genii: mention GUIs and everyone scatters and goes to look at the pretty tool :D
[15:00] <ahmad> it gived me error
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: ehat did.
[15:00] <nosrednaekim> *what
[15:01] <jembouge> ahmad yes, you need one command line to do so
[15:01] <TheNo1Yeti> Wait, Linux has a gui?
[15:01] <ahmad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47100/
[15:01] <jembouge> ahmad: and the name of the device you want to mount
[15:01] <dane> hi
[15:01] <ahmad> i tried it from the system settings
[15:01] <ahmad> the system seems to go unstable
[15:02] <kub^> hi, how do i release and renew my ip for dhcp (kubuntu gutsy)?
[15:02] <ahmad> i have also thin error when i try to close dolphin
[15:02] <ahmad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47101/
[15:03] <ahmad> i don't know what is happening :'(
[15:03] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: unmount that ntfs drive
[15:03] <jembouge> me neither, this is really weird..
[15:04] <jembouge> so tell me, did you install kubuntu or are you just running from the cd?
[15:04] <nosrednaekim> kub^: "sudo dhclient <interface name>"
[15:04] <kub^> nosrednaekim thanks :)
[15:05] <jembouge> dane: hi, what's up?
[15:05] <pag> ahmad, " sudo chown ahmad:ahmad /home/ahmad/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml " should solve that dolphin bookmark issue
[15:05] <Jucato> ahmad: that's a known bug with kdesudo
[15:05] <Jucato> follow what pag said
[15:06] <Jucato> (and check if there are updates available because I think this has been fixed already)
[15:06] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: I see your problem, you uncleanly shut down windows while that drive was mounted. you need to boot windows to recover the journal and then shut-down cleanly.
[15:07] <ahmad> so what are the steps now ?!
[15:07] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: to which problem are you referring to?
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> ahmad: boot windows, then cleanly shut down
[15:07] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: his hard drive mount error
[15:07] <Jucato> ah ok
[15:07] <zvezdichko> Good thing I have finally a fast machine. Now I'd like to try KDE 4. But will there be a conflict between qts and skype?
[15:07] <Jucato> not the kdesudo/d3lphin error then :P
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> nah.... I stay clear of kdesudo errors :D
[15:08] <ahmad> ok .. meet you after 15 mins .. i didn't turn off windows since ages :D
[15:08] <F3000> !wifi
[15:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[15:23] <carmen> v
[15:23] <Daisuke_Ido> w
[15:26] <ere4si> vdub
[15:34] <zen-xstat> hello people, i'm trying to get workin kxdocker on kubuntu gutsy, does anyone successfuly installed kxdocker??
[15:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all  : )
[15:36] <alesan> hey how do I caonfigure a raw pppoe connecton (not through a router, I ony have a modem) on gutsy?
[15:36] <alesan> DSL modem
[15:36] <nosrednaekim> alesan: probably Kppp can do it
[15:38]  * BluesKaj hands out hot coffees to all who need it 
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> brrr.... yeah. its cold here
[15:39] <nosrednaekim> still around 23F
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: sorry, didn't see your question.No, there will be no conflict
[15:40] <BluesKaj> milder now , just slightly below freezing ...wife is pressuring me to put up the Christmas lights
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: and I'd wait till the next RC, everything should be VERY usable then
[15:40] <zvezdichko> nosrednaekim: good thing ;) I only worry how I will have to remove KDE 4 when a new RC comes out
[15:40] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: if its from .deb packages souldn't be hard.
[15:41] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh..
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> zvezdichko: if its from svn/source, just recompile
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, tried twice to get those kde4 instructions to work , but no dice .. obviously doing something wrong , but I can't be bothered to find out : )
[15:42] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh...
[15:43] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its really not worth the work
[15:43] <BluesKaj> yeah. 3.5.8 works fine
[15:44] <BluesKaj> like you said , when it's deb'd then I'll do it
[15:46] <lorddarkpat> hello
[15:46] <BluesKaj> !hello | lorddarkpat
[15:46] <nosrednaekim> hello lorddarkpat
[15:46] <ubotu> lorddarkpat: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:47] <alesan> re
[15:47] <alesan> I have no idea how to configure a pppoe connection with kppp
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> !pppoe
[15:48] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[15:48] <Jucato> I don't thnk kppp handles pppoe adsl
[15:48] <alesan> it seems it's dial up only
[15:48] <Jucato> yep
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> oh.. sorry :(
[15:48] <alesan> Jucato: ah ok :)
[15:48] <alesan> no problem
[15:48] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: no, that's the right link
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> thatlink should help though.
[15:48] <Jucato> kppp's the wrong app
[15:48] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: yeah, but I told him earilier that KPP coulddo it
[15:49] <Jucato> ah
[15:49] <sigma> why does the search feature in konqueror not work?
[15:49] <Jucato> aaaah
[15:49] <Jucato> what search feature?
[15:49] <alesan> ok so it is command line only
[15:49] <alesan> good
[15:49] <Jucato> alesan: yep
[15:49] <Jucato> pppoeconf
[15:49] <Jucato> er...sudo pppoeconf
[15:50] <alesan> I have to tell my girlfriend in europe how to setup the connection
[15:50] <BluesKaj> sigma, do you mean strigi or locate ?
[15:50] <alesan> she's now gone to buy a ethernet cable
[15:50] <Jucato> oh..
[15:50] <sigma> press ctrl+f in a konqueror window, that feature - whatever i type in it never finds anything
[15:50] <alesan> about me... you know, I feel like knetworkmanager sucks regarding wireless connections
[15:51] <alesan> now I cannot connect with any WPA network, only "free" ones
[15:51] <daz> High everyone. I'm seriously struggling to find a way to increase the amount of RAM Java allocates to my browser.
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah, knetworkmangler has problems
[15:51] <alesan> any idea how to reset knetworkmanager or some other component?
[15:51] <daz> Can anyone help?
[15:51] <Jucato> sigma: while browsing web pages? yes sometimes it doesn't work. I don't know why. I think perhaps it has to do something with the web page itself
[15:51] <nosrednaekim> alesan: the cuases vary wildly.
[15:51] <alesan> any better wifi manager I can install? now I am connected with a ethernet cable
[15:52] <nosrednaekim> alesan: for wpa? yeah, there are a couple
[15:52]  * Jucato is lucky to be using only WEP at home... no problems there
[15:53] <denn> hi everyone
[15:53]  * nosrednaekim lives so far out in the middle of nowhere that he leaves it open
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> hi denn:
[15:53] <nosrednaekim> alesan: the names are escaping me ATM
[15:53] <sigma> Jucato: no while searching my hdd, im at a folder with files which start with the word alien, but if i open the find bar and type in alien then click find nothing happens - it don't find anything even though there are files with that word in the name there
[15:53] <Jucato> sigma: aaah that
[15:54] <Jucato> it uses regular expressions (I know, annoying...)
[15:54] <Jucato> try alien*
[15:55] <sigma> oh my gosh, lol. they go all the way to make a gui to search and it still needs regular expressions to work:)
[15:56] <Jucato> find is a pretty GUI frontend to "find" and "grep"
[15:57] <sigma> thanks, its working well now, it should tell people that in the find bar or add the star in at the end automatically
[15:57] <nosrednaekim> sigma: but what if people want an exact match?
[15:57] <Jucato> (reg exp are actually very powerful... once you know even just the basics....)
[15:58] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: the actual problem is that kfind doesn't really tell the user in an obvious manner that it requires regexp
[15:58] <sigma> nosrednaekim: good point!
[15:58] <nosrednaekim> hmmm yeah,it really should.
[15:58] <sigma> ya thats it Jucato
[15:58] <Jucato> or it should "scale" to both...accepting reg exp and non-reg exp...
[15:59] <Jucato> dunno if that's even possible though :)
[15:59]  * Jucato goes back to studying
[15:59] <sigma> there should be a one line hint above the search bar giving an example of how to enter the variable
[15:59] <sigma> maybe its fixed in kde4
[15:59] <Jucato> (or gone... dunno :P)
[15:59] <Riddell> anyone with xinerama?  testers needed for qt 4
[16:00] <bar> The petition!!!!! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mainactor/index.html
[16:00] <Jucato> sigma: oh Dolphin works on filters, but only for the current directory (same as filters in Konqueror)
[16:01] <sigma> lol, i test drove konqueror on a kde4 live cd, its great, looks so much better. i still don't like dolphin, seems to be lacking functionality. i still say kde should use konq for file browsing and firefox for web browsing
[16:02] <Jucato> sigma: that last part is impossible :)
[16:03] <sigma> Jucato: why you say that - how come its possible for gnome to do it but not kde?
[16:03] <Jucato> GNOME's default web browser isn't Firefox
[16:03] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: what are you studying?
[16:03] <Jucato> C++
[16:03] <SSJ_GZ> sigma: Use of a non-KDE component is up to the distros; it's out of KDE's hands.
[16:04] <Jucato> SSJ_GZ: although what he's saying is that KDE itself should use Firefox as KDE's browser
[16:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: i'm trying to learn SIP so I can make a python linking to the qt pictureflow widget
[16:04] <Jucato> sigma: one good reason is that a KDE browser would need to use KDE :)
[16:05] <sigma> Jucato: good point! but why is firefox the norm in ubuntu and not kubuntu?
[16:06] <xRaich[o]2x> sigma: firefox is gtk based and loads a shitload of libs. and that comsumes memory
[16:06] <nosrednaekim> sigma: because firefox is written in gtk, which is what gnome uses
[16:06] <Jucato> sigma: that's for distros to decide. nothing to do with GNOME or KDE actually
[16:07] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: It's a bit of a stretch to say Firefox is "written in GTK" but yes, it currently uses GTK as its toolkit on Linux.
[16:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah..
[16:08] <sigma> well i use firefox, the only extra lib i had to install was libstdcc++5 to install it, can't say its consuming that much more memory
[16:09] <sigma> is there any way just to remove the web browsing part of konqueror?
[16:09] <nosrednaekim> sigma: you probably had already installed other gtk apps.
[16:09] <Jucato> just don't use it
[16:09] <Jucato> the web browsing part of Konqueror (KHTML) is used in other KDE apps to. it's a core library
[16:10] <sigma> nope firefox was the first one
[16:10] <sigma> oh ok i see, better not fiddle with that one!
[16:11] <sigma> all the other dep's except that one lib were pre-installed on my system
[16:11] <sigma> does anyone know if theres a .deb package for the vdrift racing game?
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> !info vdrift
[16:12] <mot_> what package enables slideshow in konqueror?
[16:12] <ubotu> Package vdrift does not exist in gutsy
[16:12] <Insurgent> HEy.
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> hey Insurgent
[16:12] <Insurgent> Can someone help me out?
[16:12] <sigma> i checked packages.ubuntu.com - it wasn't there
[16:12] <Insurgent> I'm trying to update and it isn't working
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> Insurgent: whats the problem
[16:12] <sigma> whats the problem?
[16:12] <nosrednaekim> sigma: try www.getdeb.net
[16:13] <sigma> will do, thanks
[16:13] <Jucato> mot_: what slideshow do you mean?
[16:13] <Insurgent> nosrednaekim, during update i get a 404 on "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz"
[16:13] <sigma> i hate building from source
[16:13] <mot_> Jucato, slideshow view
[16:13]  * Jucato loves compiling...
[16:13] <Insurgent> It's in trying to compile to kubuntu 7.4
[16:13] <Insurgent> It's in trying to compile to kubuntu 7.04
[16:13]  * Jucato has never seen a slideshow view
[16:13] <nosrednaekim> Insurgent: compile?
[16:14] <Insurgent> Err
[16:14] <Insurgent> upgrade*
[16:14] <Insurgent> I'm not at all with it today.
[16:14] <llutz> mot_: kipi-plugins
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> Insurgent: you're trying to upgrade to 7.04? then remove that line.
[16:14] <Jucato> llutz: in Konqueror?
[16:14] <Insurgent> Remove what line?
[16:14] <llutz> Jucato: iirc uses konqi some kio-slave to use those plugins too
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> from your /etc/apt/sources.list.... the line that has the kubuntu URL in ir.
[16:14] <nosrednaekim> *it
[16:15] <Insurgent> nosrednaekim, okay.
[16:15] <Insurgent> Thanks
[16:15] <Jucato> llutz: I don't think Konqueror uses any kipi stuff at all
[16:15] <sigma> hey i didnt know that getdeb.net was owned by canonical
[16:15] <mot_> llutz, nogo, i already have that installed and it's not doing the trick.
[16:15] <Jucato> perhaps Gwenview, Digikam or Krita
[16:15] <sigma> why is it then not in packages.ubuntu.com?
[16:15] <Insurgent> Arg.
[16:15] <nosrednaekim> sigma: unsuppoerted games mostly.
[16:15] <Jucato> O.o
[16:15] <Insurgent> Don't you hate it when packages are not kept up to date?
[16:15] <Insurgent> Like older versions of software.
[16:16] <jpatrick> Insurgent: they are in the unstable release
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> jpatrick: lol, he's all the way back on edgy
[16:16] <Insurgent> jpatrick, ?
[16:16] <sigma> oh i see
[16:16] <jpatrick> Insurgent: if you're on edgy no wonder...
[16:16] <Jucato> sigma: where did you get the idea that getdeb is owned by canonical?
[16:17] <Insurgent> jpatrick, hmm?
[16:17] <jpatrick> Insurgent: the archives are frozen from updated packages after the release
[16:17] <sigma> © 2007 Canonical Ltd. Ubuntu and Canonical are registered trademarks of Canonical Ltd.
[16:17] <Insurgent> jpatrick, do when i update will packages update?
[16:17] <Jucato> sigma: yes. Canonical owns Canonical and Ubuntu :D
[16:17] <jpatrick> Insurgent: nop
[16:17] <Jucato> sigma: it doesn't say that getdeb is owned by Canonical does it? :D
[16:17] <sigma> but why does that appear at the bottom of the getdeb website?
[16:18] <jpatrick> Insurgent: unless you upgrade to a newer release
[16:18] <Jucato> sigma: it's a copyright notification. :)
[16:18] <Insurgent> jpatrick, How do i do this?
[16:18] <stdin> probably because they use Ubuntu and Ubuntu logos
[16:18] <sigma> and that site looks alot like the canonical + ubuntu sites
[16:18] <jpatrick> !upgrade | Insurgent
[16:18] <ubotu> Insurgent: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:18] <Insurgent> thanks
[16:18] <sigma> perhaps canonical sponsored the hosting + bandwidth or something
[16:18] <Jucato> sigma: that's irrelevant. the drupal theme used for the Ubuntu websites are freely and openy available :)
[16:18] <Jucato> sigma: not even :)
[16:20] <sigma> oh ok, i dont get why vdrift is not in the repo's - its such a cool game, better than torcs that is there
[16:20] <Jucato> sigma: tie, manpower, no one has done it yet? there can be many reasons why
[16:20] <Jucato> (usuallyanpower and time)
[16:20] <Jucato> er.. "man power"
[16:22] <sigma> well there is a feisty version available, would that possibly work on gutsy?
[16:22] <vara> Please help.  I've screwed something up and figure out what happened.  I followed the instructions for disabling tapping on my touchpad while typing
[16:22] <vara> then I lost tapping completely.
[16:23] <vara> so I deleted the script
[16:23] <vara> and removed the entry to xorg.conf to return the system to how it was before
[16:23] <vara> and now I have no touchpad functionality at all when logged into X
[16:24] <vara> I do have touchpad when signing into the initial session
[16:24] <Dragonath> I think reconfiguring the X server might help
[16:24] <sigma> vara: you should run that reconfigure xorg command
[16:24] <sigma> lesson: always have a backup of your xorg.conf!
[16:24] <vara> please tell me how to do that!  (run the reconfigure command)
[16:25] <sigma> does anyone know the command off hand? i forgot it
[16:25] <vara> yeah (bashes head against wall) - backup!  kicking myself now
[16:25] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:25] <sigma> don't worry i learnt the hard way - had to re-install
[16:25] <vara> I plugged in a usb mouse and it works fine - so it's just the touchpad
[16:26] <jpapas> hello
[16:26] <sigma> i love my compiz cube, yesterday i put one video in each window and played them in full screen, then i rotated the cube and they were all playing super-smoothly!
[16:27] <sigma> vara: ya then its just a reconfigure that you need
[16:27] <vara> OK, thanks...trying it now
[16:27] <sigma> check the /etc/X11 folder, sometimes it makes a backup there
[16:27] <vara> OK
[16:28] <sigma> can compiz not show window contents while moving windows?
[16:29] <jembouge> jpapas: ask man
[16:30] <trappist> sigma: sure it can
[16:30] <sigma> and why does klipper disapear when im using compiz?
[16:30] <sigma> trappist: how? im using kwin with compiz
[16:33] <vara> back in a sec - gotta restart X
[16:33] <trappist> sigma: I don't even know how you're doing that
[16:33] <sigma> trappist: lol i just didnt install emerald, and its working perfectly
[16:39] <deeploy> kubuntu français ?
[16:39] <jpatrick> !fr | deeploy
[16:39] <ubotu> deeploy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:39] <deeploy> ok
[16:39] <deeploy> merci
[16:39] <deeploy> :)
[16:39] <jpatrick> de rien
[16:42] <vara> OK, so now I have a new problem...how do I kill the xserver-xorg process?  It keeps running in the background and so the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg won't work.  ctrl-esc won't let me kill it due to insufficient privileges
[16:42] <vara> neither will a log out and back in
[16:45] <vara> sorry to be a pain, I'm just a little freaked out.
[16:46] <vara> how can I get rid of the process that's locking me out of the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command?
[16:46] <jpatrick> vara: killall dpkg(-reconfigure)
[16:46] <jpatrick> !patience | vara
[16:46] <ubotu> vara: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:46] <jpatrick> :P
[16:46] <vara> ahh, let me try that one
[16:46] <jpatrick> I was still typing :)
[16:47] <Walkboss> 1
[16:47] <Walkboss> Whoops
[16:47] <vara> i totally understand that and I'm truly grateful.  if my attitude came across as anything different, I'm really sorry.
[16:47] <jpatrick> vara: did it work?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> it's asmall annoyance but can be a frustrating one , when correcting spelling in the konq browser google searchbar the cursor won't stay behind the completed letter , it constantly jumps to the end of the phrase after just one keystroke. Any suggestions , cuz I havent found any fixes anywhere.
[16:48] <Walkboss> Can someone let me know how to get kwin working with compiz? Is it even possible?
[16:48] <vara> yes!!!, I'm just starting the reconfigure process...
[16:48] <jpatrick> Walkboss: no, you have to replace kwin with compiz with "compiz --replace"
[16:49] <Walkboss> jpatrick, my window decorations disappear when I run that.
[16:49] <stdin> Walkboss: installed compiz-kde ?
[16:49] <jpatrick> Walkboss: have you installed emerald and compiz-kde?
[16:50] <Walkboss> Not emerald
[16:50] <cpereira> hi
[16:50] <Walkboss> Do I also need emerald-themes?
[16:50] <jpatrick> yep
[16:50] <stdin> shouldn't *need* emerald, but it's another window decorator
[16:50] <jpatrick> I needed emerald here
[16:50] <stdin> (probably better than the one in compiz-kde)
[16:51] <Walkboss> What is the package name?
[16:51] <Walkboss> Package emerald-themes has no installation candidate
[16:51] <bazhang> emerald or compiz-kde?
[16:51] <Walkboss> I got emerald and it suggested emerald-themes
[16:51] <Walkboss> Oh well
[16:51] <stdin> you have to get the themes via svn...
[16:52] <stdin> Walkboss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#head-3f62aec4d410bb7d9a17dc47f6b04f73638dc368
[16:52] <Walkboss> I used to use it with gnome in fiesty, but I haven't had any luck with KDE
[16:53] <jpatrick> ...Kubuntu then use this command: ...emerald, hmm
[16:54] <bazhang> emerald --replace
[16:54] <stdin> jpatrick: the package "compiz" pulls "compiz-gnome" and a ton on gtk deps, that's why the 2 are different
[16:54] <stdin> and someone thinks emerald is a must on kde
[16:55] <jpatrick> stdin: I know, the page just said emerald
[16:55] <Walkboss> I swear I used to use metacity --replace after running compiz and every was well.
[16:55] <Walkboss> emerald --replace just hangs, by the way
[16:55] <F3000> Anyone here able to help me with connecting a wireless router? I'm not too n00b with it (anymore), I'm just running low with ideas, and I still shun manuals... :/
[16:55] <stdin> Walkboss: it only works while running compiz
[16:55] <Walkboss> I said I haven't had any luck. I've tried on KDE, please don't assume I haven't.
[16:56] <Walkboss> I ran compiz --replace first
[16:56] <Walkboss> then no decorations
[16:56] <Walkboss> then emerald --replace and now it says Reloading...
[16:57] <Walkboss> I guess because I tried to change the theme. It's not loaded at all though. at least I still don't see any borders.
[16:58] <Walkboss> wait. brb
[17:01] <jpatrick> Walkboss: did it work?
[17:01] <Walkboss> No dice
[17:02] <Walkboss> I ran "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24" and restarted X
[17:03] <jpatrick> Walkboss: have you actived the nvidia driver in the restricted manager?
[17:03] <Walkboss> yeah, it's up
[17:03] <jpatrick> odd..
[17:03] <Walkboss> Isn't "AddARGBGLXVisuals" supposed to be in the device section of xorg.conf?
[17:04] <jpatrick> err. I use ati, no idea
[17:07] <Walkboss> I'll try a couple more things and if it doesn't work I'll wait a few months again. Thanks for your help
[17:14] <combinio> how to extract *.ACE archive ?? :}
[17:14] <Dr_willis> !ace
[17:14] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[17:14] <combinio> i installed unace already
[17:15] <Dr_willis> then use the unace command? :)
[17:15] <combinio> Dr_willis: will try that :)
[17:15] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[17:15] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[17:15] <Dr_willis> use the shell :)  and 'unp' is what i normally do for most all the archives i come across
[17:16] <xiven> Hey
[17:16] <xiven> I am having a big internet problem with Kubuntu
[17:16] <psycho> Hallöchen miteinander
[17:16] <psycho> someone speaks german?
[17:17] <Jucato> !de | psycho
[17:17] <ubotu> psycho: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:17] <xiven> It works for a minute or two, if I don't try anything other then viewing the front of google or the like....
[17:17] <psycho> ² jucato do you speak german?
[17:17] <Jucato> no
[17:17] <psycho> oh
[17:17] <psycho> ok
[17:17] <psycho> *gg*
[17:18] <psycho> u know how to install a driver 4 a WLAN Interface? i tried 2 get a better driver in my 7.10 but something is wrong now...
[17:19] <psycho> if i try ifconfig i dont see my wlan interface
[17:19] <Jucato> iwconfig?
[17:19] <Jucato> !wireless
[17:19] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:19] <psycho> if i make iwconfig i saw it
[17:20] <psycho> i know but i shoot down the driver i think
[17:20] <Jucato> yeah I think it should be iwconfig
[17:20] <skyfalcon866> is there is cpu temp app for kicker
[17:20] <psycho> but in my old configuration i saw it also with ifconfig
[17:20] <psycho> and with iwconfig i cant activate it
[17:21]  * Jucato is not good w/ wireless
[17:21] <psycho> iwconfig shows me wlan0
[17:22] <psycho> is i make ifconfig up wlan0 is says Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[17:23] <venik> 7.10 is DEFINITELY slower on my computer than 7.04 was, especially in handling graphics.  WHen I move the mouse, the cursor does not follow instantly as it should.  I tried adjusting the drag delay and threshold, but it did not help.  I am using an ATI card and the generic Linux driver for ATI cards.
[17:23] <psycho> with lsmod i saw my card 05:06.0 Network controller: Ralink RT2561/RT61 rev B ...
[17:24] <niko_> hi to all
[17:24] <niko_> how can i record my desktop?
[17:25] <llutz> install recordmydesktop
[17:25] <niko_> eheheh
[17:25] <niko_> it's in the repo?
[17:25] <Jucato> !info krecordmydesktop
[17:25] <ubotu> krecordmydesktop: kde frontend to recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~alpha1+debian-1 (gutsy), package size 75 kB, installed size 300 kB
[17:25] <llutz> niko_: it is, a imho better, kommander-gui is reKordmydesktop, apps-kde.org
[17:26] <llutz> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/reKordmydesktop?content=55760
[17:27] <hw_> Anyone know a backport of esvn 0.6.12 for feisty?
[17:27] <niko_> record
[17:27] <niko_> or rekord?
[17:28] <llutz> niko_: package is "recordmydesktop", gui="krecordmydesktop" or "reKordmydesktop", see link
[17:28] <niko_> okiz!
[17:28] <niko_> understand
[17:29] <psycho> in the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/DWL-G510?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29%7C%28AND%29 they speak of a marvel chipset but i have a RaLink chipset
[17:30] <llutz> psycho: d-link changes chipsets moreoften than underwear
[17:30] <psycho> lol
[17:31] <psycho> i tried the instructions 4 the RT2561/RT61 but now it dont work...
[17:31] <Dr_willis> wasent the ra chipset suposed to have gpl drivers?  (i dont keep up with wirless any more.. ive given up on wireless) :)
[17:31] <psycho> joo
[17:31] <psycho> it has gpl drivers
[17:32] <psycho> but something goes wrong
[17:32] <Dr_willis> I just rember a big deal on the RA* having gpl drivers ages ago.. then never could find the cards and then i herd the drivers sucked.. heh heh.
[17:32] <psycho> and i dont know how to find the problem
[17:33] <psycho> is the ndiswrapper running with every driver?
[17:33] <psycho> then i can take the cd
[17:34] <psycho> i only found the instructions 4 this chipset with the gpl driver
[17:37] <BluesKaj> venik, use the restricted driver (8.37) in system settings/advanced.. I have a low end ati X200G onboard and it works better then the ati proprietary recommended driver (8.43), including 3D and DRI
[17:37] <jurgentje> Hi... I've got messed up with my system and I can't figure out how to get it okay again... tons of dependencies seem to be crippled, I guess it's because there's something wrong in my sources.list ... anyhow, is there an easy way to revert my Kubuntu (actually a converted ubuntu) to a default Kubuntu without loosing my "home" folders?
[17:38] <jurgentje> (my release would be Gutsy)
[17:40] <niko_> i don't understand of to start the gui of recordmydesktop....
[17:40] <niko_> where it saves the files???
[17:40] <JohnFlux_> niko_: go to wherever your want it to save the fil
[17:40] <JohnFlux_> file
[17:41] <niko_> okiz
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> niko_: then run:  recordmydesktop  filename
[17:41] <niko_> i found the file....
[17:41] <niko_> yeap
[17:41] <niko_> but
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> by default is out.mpg
[17:41] <niko_> the settings?
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> by default is out.ogg
[17:41] <niko_> out.ogg
[17:41] <niko_> yeap
[17:41] <JohnFlux_> niko_: man recordmydesktop
[17:41] <niko_> but the encoding?
[17:41] <niko_> is slow!!!
[17:41] <niko_> the fremes i mean
[17:41] <niko_> okiz
[17:42] <niko_> frames
[17:45] <mpat> kann mir mal einer helfen?
[17:45] <jembouge> du muss English sprechen
[17:45] <bazhang> !de
[17:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:46] <mpat> danke
[17:48] <venik> blueskj, when I tried that I was told that "Your hardware does not need any proprietary drivers", and none were visible
[17:50] <venik> Blueskj, when I tried to install one manually, X would not start, and I had to edit the xorg.conf to be able to use the machine with a GUI
[17:52] <jurgentje> If I would just download de Kubuntu live CD ... and install it over my current (ubuntu) installation, will it retain my /home data? (especially my documents)
[17:53] <jembouge> jurgentje: the best thing to do when installing is to create a separate partition for your /home directory
[17:54] <jembouge> if you haven't done so, i guess you'd better save everything before you reinstall the whole thing
[17:54] <jembouge> cause it won't keep it
[17:54] <jurgentje> jembouge: it's just ... for some weird reason, my Kubuntu is going nuts on its dependencies and stuff... and I'l like to start over with a clean slate. :/
[17:54] <mpat> neversfelde: can you read my messages?
[17:55] <pastryness> when i installed kubuntu it didnt ask for a root password
[17:55] <pastryness> how do i su into root?
[17:55] <pastryness> or login to root?
[17:55] <jembouge> pastryness: you do not
[17:55] <jembouge> this is special on ubuntu
[17:56] <jembouge> you use sudo
[17:56] <pastryness> but then anyone can do sudo?
[17:56] <jembouge> with the passord of the first user account created
[17:56] <pastryness> ah
[17:56] <pastryness> okay
[17:56] <jembouge> which is the admin
[17:56] <jembouge> if you wanna do more than just one thing as a root
[17:56] <jembouge> type in "sudo -d"
[17:56] <jembouge> oops
[17:56] <jembouge> sudo -s
[17:57] <jembouge> and then, that'll be like "su"
[17:57] <jembouge> sudo is either   "sudo -s"
[17:57] <jembouge> or "sudo mycommand"
[17:57] <jembouge> jurgentje: try deborphan and get rid of all the useless stuff you have
[17:57] <jembouge> reinstall packages
[17:58] <jembouge> i don't know...
[17:58] <jembouge> if I were you I would reinstall everything, but I do use several partitions
[17:58] <jembouge> so I don't have to worry about erasing everything
[17:59] <rance> what is the right way to turn a single hardware sound adapter to several (say 4) virtual sound adapters so that multiple software programs that each take exclusive control of the device can still function  (on freebsd multiple devices are created as in /dev/pcm0.0 /dev/pcm0.1 etc)
[18:00] <install> I had Windows XP on my computer and installed kubuntu but cant see the boot menu. Maby I did't install grub. Can I do it after? I have booted from the live-cd
[18:00] <llutz> !ntfs-3g
[18:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:02] <install> how do I install grub from live-cd after I have installed Win XP on one partition on kubuntu on another. Can't see the boot menu
[18:02] <venik> Blueskaj-- tried to specify the ati card I have (Rage 128), but it did not work with the generic driver.
[18:02] <venik> Things were faster and smoother with 7.04, for some odd reason
[18:06] <mustafa-> türkçe bilen var mı
[18:06] <coreymon77> umm english?
[18:06] <kawa> mustafa
[18:06] <kawa> hi
[18:06] <kawa> :)
[18:07] <mustafa-> hi. can i ask one question. what is the dirrence kubuntu alternate and kubuntu destop
[18:07] <mustafa-> difference*
[18:07] <coreymon77> mustafa-: alternate is a text installer
[18:07] <coreymon77> mustafa-: desktop is the livecd
[18:08] <mustafa-> ok. thanks.
[18:08] <coreymon77> wow
[18:08] <coreymon77> why is freenode so dead right now
[18:08] <CrocoJet> exist some kind of bug new version flashplugin in Kubuntu gutsy ?
[18:08] <coreymon77> nobody is talking in any of the channels im in
[18:09] <CrocoJet> coreymon77, we are two .. than
[18:09] <coreymon77> huh?
[18:09] <CrocoJet> do you use kubuntu ?
[18:10] <coreymon77> ya
[18:10] <coreymon77> of course
[18:10] <CrocoJet> gutsy version ?
[18:10] <coreymon77> yes
[18:10] <CrocoJet> did you make install flashplugin ?
[18:10] <coreymon77> i apt installed flash
[18:11] <CrocoJet> I cant get success with install ... flash
[18:11] <CrocoJet> ah . use konqueror or firefox ?
[18:11] <coreymon77> !info flash]
[18:11] <ubotu> Package flash does not exist in gutsy
[18:11] <coreymon77> !info flashplugin
[18:11] <ubotu> Package flashplugin does not exist in gutsy
[18:11] <CrocoJet> ouch !
[18:11] <coreymon77> is flash on apt?
[18:11] <coreymon77> !flash
[18:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:11] <ahmad> hey folks
[18:11] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[18:11] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:12] <ahmad> i have a problem in my Adept Manager
[18:12] <ahmad> is there any one who can help ?!
[18:12] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: there you go
[18:12] <CrocoJet> I think that adept manager is full bugs
[18:12] <coreymon77> ahmad: not if you dont tell us what the problem is
[18:13]  * coreymon77 agrees with CrocoJet
[18:13] <CrocoJet> may be .. better try 7.04 Kubuntu
[18:13] <coreymon77> thats why i just use cmdline apt
[18:13] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: why?
[18:14] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: why use feisty?
[18:14] <CrocoJet> coreymon77, thats explain my problems .. adept !!
[18:14] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: what about it
[18:14] <CrocoJet> more stable .. I think
[18:14] <ahmad> coreymon77 : i started to upgrade the system .. and then it stopped ..  and when  i try to run the Adept again it refuses telling me that Another process is using the packaging system database
[18:14] <CrocoJet> ahmad, happen here also
[18:14] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: adept has nothing to do with make
[18:14] <coreymon77> ahmad: the database is locked
[18:15] <ahmad> and what is the solution !?
[18:15] <coreymon77> !aptfix | ahmad
[18:15] <ubotu> ahmad: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:15] <coreymon77> ahmad: that should work
[18:15] <coreymon77> ahmad: make sure that adept is not still running though first
[18:16] <ahmad> i would like to know what is the reason for that ?!
[18:16] <deeploy> hello
[18:16] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree gutsy-backports
[18:16] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[18:16] <coreymon77> ahmad: only one proccess can use the apt database at a time
[18:16] <Jucato> hm..
[18:17] <coreymon77> ahmad: when a process is using it, it locks the databse so that no other process can use it
[18:17] <coreymon77> ahmad: the process removes the lock when it is done, but when something like adept crashes
[18:17] <deeploy> is there anyone who can help me ?
[18:17] <coreymon77> ahmad: the lock isnt removed, therefore that happens
[18:17] <pastryness> how do i update the available programs?
[18:18] <coreymon77> ahmad: that command removes the lock
[18:18] <coreymon77> pastryness: through apt? sudo apt-get update
[18:18] <ahmad> coreymon77 : thank you so so so much
[18:18] <coreymon77> deeploy: not if you dont tell us what the problem is
[18:18] <pastryness> with kde
[18:18] <Jucato> pastryness: 2 ways: 1) you will be automatically notified if there are updates to installed programs. you will see an icon in your panel informing you of that. you can just click on it and use the updater
[18:18] <coreymon77> ahmad: no problem
[18:18] <ahmad> coreymon77 : how can you know these solutions ?!
[18:19] <coreymon77> ahmad: experience
[18:19] <Jucato> pastryness: 2) you can manually check if there are updates using Adept Manager (in K Menu -> System)
[18:19] <coreymon77> ahmad: best way to learn this stuff, have it happen to you, then when you fix it
[18:19] <coreymon77> ahmad: you know what to tell others
[18:19] <Jucato> (or just watch as others helplessly ask for help and get helped by others)
[18:20] <coreymon77> ahmad: the reason i know alot about getting wireless working is because of all the countless hours ive spent getting it to work for me
[18:20] <ahmad> but the probelm that i cann't memorize this commands .. should i gather it in a file or something !!
[18:20] <coreymon77> ahmad: you shouldnt need to use that command often
[18:21] <coreymon77> ahmad: the lock is normally removed automatically
[18:21] <CrocoJet> ahmad, I am making download of Kubuntu 7.04 .. may be more stable .. than 7.10
[18:21] <CrocoJet> gutsy .. suck a lots with bugs
[18:21] <coreymon77> ahmad: stuff like apt commands, ive just used them so much that ive memorized them
[18:21] <CrocoJet> if no sucess with 7.04 ... I will return to fedora 7
[18:22] <ahmad> 7.04 is more stable ?!
[18:22] <coreymon77> i dont think so
[18:22] <coreymon77> i like gutsy
[18:22] <CrocoJet> I dont know .. but 7.10 is so so
[18:22] <coreymon77> ahmad: that apt database thing will happen in 7.04 too
[18:23] <CrocoJet> 7.04 is Feisty Fawn
[18:23] <CrocoJet> 7.10 is gutsy
[18:23] <CrocoJet> (nickname, I think)
[18:23] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: yes, i know that
[18:23] <coreymon77> anything that is not a LTS release is bound to have bugs in it
[18:23] <CrocoJet> coreymon77, explaining to ahmad
[18:24] <CrocoJet> ouch !!!
[18:24] <coreymon77> anyways
[18:24] <CrocoJet> really ?
[18:24] <coreymon77> ya
[18:24] <tlayton> can anyone help on a kde 4 rc1 error on hardy?
[18:24] <svenne> Swedish everyone??
[18:24] <CrocoJet> too bad
[18:24] <CrocoJet> :(
[18:24] <coreymon77> tlayton: hardy is very experimental
[18:24] <CrocoJet> what is main difference 7.04 and 7.10 ?
[18:24] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: a kde rc on top of a ver unstable hardy is bound to have problems
[18:25] <coreymon77> CrocoJet: bug fixes
[18:25] <ahmad> this is the question i was about to ask :D
[18:25] <coreymon77> anyways
[18:25] <coreymon77> i have to go
[18:25] <coreymon77> class time
[18:25] <CrocoJet> ah ok
[18:25] <coreymon77> bye
[18:25] <CrocoJet> ok, thanks information
[18:25] <tlayton> well, this error iv'e been having since beta 3 on gutsy
[18:25] <coreymon77> Jucato: take care of them, will ya?
[18:25] <Jucato> if I can manage to stay awake
[18:25] <Jucato> Fri Dec  7 02:25:39 PHT 2007
[18:25] <svenne> Svensk någon skulle behöva hjälp
[18:26] <Jucato> !se
[18:26] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[18:27] <ahmad> why i imagine that the 1 CD - type of linux seems less stable than the other 1 - DVD distros ?! :D
[18:27] <tlayton> my hardy is actually stable. i was just hoping to try kde 4. there's a thread in the hardy development forum in which it works.
[18:28] <tlayton> well, here's the error message if anyone can help: "dolphin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleEv"
[18:33] <mrmonday> is it possible to get kubuntu to run an application using default gtk settings instead of kde/whatever kubuntu uses?
[18:34] <Dr_willis> you mean the default gtk theme?
[18:34] <kawa__> for dounload repo..
[18:34] <kawa__> supo adapter...
[18:34] <kawa__> sudo
[18:34] <mrmonday> Dr_willis, probably
[18:34] <osman47> !de
[18:34] <Dr_willis> The kde theme manager/settings has a checkbox to theme GTK/Gnome apps with the KDE theme I thought.
[18:35] <osman47> !de
[18:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:35] <Dr_willis> Used to be the you had gtk apps looking all different from the KDE ones.. got sort of ugly after a while.
[18:37] <pastryness>  my adept manager>updates>kubuntu updates check boxes are grayed out and i cant select them, why?
[18:38]  * mrmonday tries
[18:39] <pastryness> anyone? plz? i cant click the recommended updates checkbox :/
[18:41] <BluesKaj> pastryness, close adept and do a ' sudo apt-get update ' in the Konsole , then try again
[18:42] <pastryness> okay, i'll try that
[18:43] <pastryness> okay
[18:43] <pastryness> i did that
[18:44] <pastryness> my adept is still the same
[18:45] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | pastryness
[18:45] <ubotu> pastryness: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:48] <pastryness> things are still the same
[18:49] <pastryness> let me take a screenshot
[18:52] <pastryness> mmm
[18:54] <_nix_> hello everybody..
[18:54] <JohnFlux_> what uses wtmp?
[18:54] <ahmad> hello _nix_
[18:55] <popogge> what are you guys using for an irc klient? i dont like konversation klient
[18:55] <pastryness> hmmm
[18:56] <pastryness> my knetworkmanager is also showeing no active device, even though i can access the internet fine
[18:56] <_nix_> I created a trackerless torrent in ktorrent (2.2.4) and added my IP and port number in it. However the torrent is not downloading from a friends place who's using utorrent.
[18:56] <_nix_> popogge: I'm using irssi
[18:57] <_nix_> popogge: u can send /ctcp <nick> version to check out what client is being used
[19:10] <niko_> hi to all
[19:10] <niko_> how can i install xwinwrap?
[19:14] <smooker> hi all :)
[19:15] <Xcell> .
[19:16] <smooker> kubuntu seems to be verry stable OS and im so happy to use it :) where i can see my uptime fromt the reboot to now ?
[19:17] <StevenR> smooker: type uptime in a terminal
[19:17] <pastryness> my sound card is 5.1, how can i configure it? the kmix options are so limited
[19:17] <smooker>  21:18:15 up 21:58,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 what load average means ?
[19:17] <StevenR> smooker: 19:17:17 up 2 days, 22:55,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00   forexample (that box had a kernel update this week)
[19:18] <StevenR> smooker: it's a general measure of how loaded your system is.
[19:18] <StevenR> smooker: the numbers are the 1min, 5min and 15min averages. They're based on a number of factors, including swap, disk, cpu, memory usage.
[19:19] <niko_> nothing on install xwinwrap?
[19:20] <smooker> interest.. on my kubuntu before i see no swap usage, only physical mem  less than 10% of my 2gb ram i think thats verry good :)
[19:21] <xaa> my kicker crashed, i try dcop kicker kicker restart - itll come back up but crash instantly. anyone have anysuggestions?
[19:22] <StevenR> smooker: yeah. your load averages are tiny. Your system is doing fine.
[19:22] <niko_> XWinWrap???
[19:22] <niko_> (join #compiz
[19:25] <johnficca> Hi I'm getting this: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found...what should I install to fix?
[19:25] <StevenR> install qt-devel probably
[19:29] <johnficca> what are the kde headers called?
[19:30] <kubuntux> #kubuntu.kde
[19:31] <vajk> hello all
[19:33] <nalioth> johnficca: you mean like kde-devel or something?
[19:33] <vajk> does anyone know when will be the repos updated to the new ati driver which supports AIGLX?
[19:33] <kawa__> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[19:33] <kawa__> :?
[19:34] <kawa__> :°°
[19:34] <johnficca> nalioth: yeah I found it thanks
[19:34] <niko_> kawa
[19:34] <niko_> have u modified the source list?
[19:34] <kawa__> boh
[19:35] <kawa__> i'm stupid for kubuntu :°°
[19:49] <aodhagan> started running Hardy about a week ago and ran into a bug that doesn't seem to be on launchpad.net.  The icons on my deskop are showing the / folder instead of /home/usr/Desktop/  anyone else seen this?
[20:00] <mm_work> Is there a way to have a script execute when unlocking kubuntu? (eg, after a suspend or lock)
[20:01] <sigma> hmmm not to sure about that, did you try google it
[20:02] <mm_work> I think that I did in the past, but I'll try again.  If I find something, I'll report back to here just in case someone else would find it useful.
[20:02] <sigma> has anyone gotten the tv out working on the ati mobility 9000?
[20:02] <sigma> what exactly do you want to execute
[20:03] <mm_work> sigma: I just want to restate ntp.  Everytime my laptop goes to sleep and comes back up, ntp loses its connections and just basically dies.
[20:04] <mm_work> I know that I can setup a cron job to restart it every hour, but I'd rather just have it restarted when the system is unlocked
[20:04] <sigma> mm_work: what is ntp?
[20:05] <mm_work> hmmm, actually, I think a better question/request would be if its possible to execute a script on a network connection coming up.
[20:05] <mm_work> ntp = network time protocol.
[20:05] <mehdi> hi everybody
[20:05] <sigma> ok can't say i have alot of experience in that
[20:06] <sigma> hi mehdi
[20:06] <mehdi> want to ask help about installing compiz-fusion
[20:06] <podr0znik> hi all :)
[20:06] <mehdi> hi sigma
[20:06] <mehdi> would you like to help me ?? sigma
[20:07] <mehdi> dont have an idea about installin 3D desktop (compiz)
[20:07] <podr0znik> Is "explaining what a certain error means" someone's greatest hobby over here?
[20:07] <sigma> mehdi: what appears to be the prob? i managed to get compiz fusion up on kubuntu 7.10
[20:08] <ScorpKing> !compiz | mehdi
[20:08] <ubotu> mehdi: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[20:08] <sigma> lol podr0znik, google would prob be best for that, but which app is it?
[20:08] <mehdi> i dont have kubuntu 7.10
[20:09] <podr0znik> sigma: Dolphin, the normal explorer basically
[20:09] <podr0znik> I have put back all files from a DVD (documents etc)
[20:09] <sigma> mehdi: should still be + - the same instructions (why haven't you upgraded yet?)
[20:09] <podr0znik> and now I get an error every time when I *close* this window (for the rest it works fine)
[20:09] <mehdi> want to ask about possibility and compatibility between compiz and ATI display card ???
[20:09] <podr0znik> can I copy/paste this error here?
[20:09] <mehdi> no i did not upgrade
[20:10] <ScorpKing> !paste | podr0znik
[20:10] <ubotu> podr0znik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:10] <sigma> podr0znik, dolphin is hopeless, why not switch back to konqueror and uninstall dolphin?
[20:10] <mehdi> i fear of having trouble with the upgrade
[20:10] <podr0znik> sigma, I hate konqueror as an internet browser but as local browser it should be fine actually
[20:11] <sigma> mehdi: you'll be surprised, its alot more stable than feisty, with lots of bug fixes
[20:11] <podr0znik> ScorpKing, thank you for the explanation, makes sense
[20:11] <ScorpKing> np
[20:11] <sigma> podr0znik, dolphin isn't a internet browser, just use firefox for internet browsing
[20:11] <podr0znik> sigma, of course :)
[20:12] <mehdi> sigma do i have to have  a specific source list to upgrade to 7.10 ???
[20:12] <podr0znik> do I just change it in settings somehow that default file browser is konqueror instead of dolphin?
[20:12] <sigma> mehdi, i don't believe in physically upgrading, i just format and re-install, helps to avoid issues
[20:13] <sigma> podr0znik, yup let me walk you through it, do u know how to get into the kde control center?
[20:13] <mehdi> ahha ok you are right ...sigma
[20:13] <podr0znik> just the system settings you mean?
[20:13] <podr0znik> I'm there now
[20:13] <mehdi> sigma do you think that s no problem between ATI dsiplay card and compiz ??
[20:14] <sigma> podr0znik, nope rather use the control center, click run command and type in kcontrol
[20:14] <podr0znik> ok
[20:14] <sigma> mehdi: well honestly i haven't been impressed with ati driver support in ubuntu
[20:15] <sigma> which card do u have?
[20:15] <_ede_> join #kubuntu-devel
[20:15] <mehdi> aha so i dont have to try that so ? sigma
[20:15] <sigma> podr0znik, click on "kde components", then "file associations"
[20:16] <sigma> mehdi: always worth a try
[20:16] <sigma> podr0znik, did u get there - its on the left hand menu
[20:16] <podr0znik> d
[20:16] <mehdi> thx sigma
[20:16] <sigma> mehdi: no prob
[20:16] <mehdi> where are you from sigma ???
[20:16] <mehdi> i m from Tunisia
[20:17] <sigma> mehdi: south africa, land of mark shuttleworth:)
[20:17] <podr0znik> erm, should I know him?
[20:17] <sigma> podr0znik, ok click on "inode" and then directory
[20:17] <podr0znik> ah ok, the rest is clear I think
[20:17] <mehdi> sigma ah ok welll we are from the same continent
[20:17] <podr0znik> move konqueror up and done?
[20:17] <mehdi> Africa
[20:18] <sigma> podr0znik, then on the left move konq up or just remove dolphin
[20:18] <sigma> mehdi: where did u hear about kubuntu?
[20:18] <sigma> podr0znik, you need to do it for system_directory in inode as well
[20:18] <podr0znik> ok, problem solved - no error in konqueror
[20:19] <mehdi>  a freind tell me about it , and i studie a linux module
[20:19] <podr0znik> in system_directory there is no Dolphin anymore already
[20:19] <mehdi> theu use Fedora in my university but i choose Kubuntu
[20:19] <sigma> podr0znik, oh ok, just to be safe you may want to remove dolphin from add remove programs
[20:19] <podr0znik> you know what, this kubuntu is really so intuitional...
[20:20] <podr0znik> but some things are difficult to find without help
[20:20] <mehdi> sigma ok have to go to try that thing
[20:20] <sigma> mehdi: i see, interesting
[20:20] <mehdi> sigma  thx
[20:20] <podr0znik> I just installed Skype, I remember how I was fighting with that in 7.04
[20:20] <podr0znik> now it's 3 mouse clicks :)
[20:20] <sigma> podr0znik, yup its all there you just need to find it
[20:20] <sigma> lol
[20:21] <podr0znik> a friend has a laptop with a broken port, Windows was having system jams (of course!)
[20:21] <podr0znik> I told her - are you surprised about that?
[20:21] <podr0znik> I told her to run kubuntu once from cd... while booting there was a text "Something bad happened." and the system just went on as if nothing happened ;)
[20:21] <sigma> as linux gets more popular, more apps will become linux friendly, its happening with the games already
[20:22] <podr0znik> indeed
[20:22] <podr0znik> and I think (k)ubuntu are doing a big job there
[20:22] <podr0znik> 'cause this is exactly how to make linux popular
[20:22] <podr0znik> (I mean - for the non IT-people)
[20:22] <sigma> podr0znik, sometimes it doesn't work with laptops, they are very picky
[20:22] <podr0znik> people are just scared that they can't manage with linux, then when I show them kubuntu they are amazed that it works easier than Windows
[20:22] <podr0znik> indeed
[20:23] <sigma> podr0znik, yup especially with mark shuttleworth  behind it gives the project huge amounts of leverage because of the respect he has in the IT industry
[20:24] <sigma> podr0znik, people will always complain, especially because its free
[20:24] <podr0znik> ok, so now I know that I indeed SHOULD know Mark Shuttleworth
[20:24] <sigma> lol he did fund the creation of your OS after all
[20:24] <Lynoure> I did not pay any attention to Mr. Shuttleworth before Ubuntu
[20:25] <podr0znik> I was doing the MCSE study someday and the teacher was telling me bs that linux was more expensive than Windows because it demanded more hours of work for system administrators
[20:25] <podr0znik> but hey, he was paid by Microsoft to say that of course ;)
[20:25] <sigma> Lynoure: to be honest i never knew he existed even after he made his billions
[20:25] <sigma> i heard about his when he went into space
[20:26] <sigma> podr0znik, lol yup they are rather scared because linux isn't that toy it used to be, nows its a serious hard working operating system
[20:27] <pastryness> how do i check my graphics card?
[20:27] <sigma> pastryness: what exactly do u want to know about it?
[20:27] <pastryness> what it is :<
[20:27] <pastryness> i dont know what my graphics card is
[20:27] <Lynoure> pastryness: try  lspci
[20:28] <pastryness> sweet thanks
[20:28] <Don_Koxone> hello
[20:28] <sigma> i downloaded some manuals from the shuttleworth organisation - it teaches linux from the command line up - things click faster when you learn it that way
[20:29] <sigma> but i hear hardy is getting pretty much a full facelift (in ubuntu not too sure about kubuntu) so it seems one step further towards a completely user friendly OS
[20:30] <podr0znik> sigma, I think so too that it would still be good to learn the command line stuff
[20:31] <sigma> yup its the only way to fully understand it
[20:31] <podr0znik> anyway, I have another small issue, maybe you also have a suggestion for that
[20:31] <podr0znik> I copied back all my documents, including a number of spreadsheets which I use very often, and after the clean install to 7.10 the fonts changed drastically
[20:31] <Lynoure> commandline is not necessarily used-infriedly... let's e.g. compare lspci there with finding the same info in gui...
[20:31] <sigma> after all, the GUI apps in kde and Gnome all operate directly some way or the other off the command line
[20:31] <Lynoure> s/infriedly/unfriendly
[20:31] <podr0znik> very small letters I have now, while the documents' size is bigger (doesn't fit on A4 anymore)
[20:31] <sigma> good point
[20:32] <podr0znik> sigma, indeed, that's why it's GUI
[20:32] <sigma> lol
[20:32] <sigma> now back 2 your problem
[20:33] <sigma> did you have any fonts installed in 7.04 that you didn't re-install in 7.10
[20:33] <podr0znik> nothing what was not standard in 7.04
[20:33] <podr0znik> but I must say I was always using the font "Verdana'
[20:33] <podr0znik> I got used to it in Windows and kept using it, although I'm not sure if 7.04 had that font at all
[20:33] <sigma> now back 2 your proble
[20:33] <sigma> ignore that
[20:34] <vincent_> hi
[20:34] <sigma> hmmm ya you may want to install that font
[20:34] <vincent_> how do i enable compisiting in kde4?
[20:34] <sigma> hi vincent, got a question?
[20:34] <sigma> vincent_ you mean compiz fusion (desktop effects)?
[20:34] <vincent_> no
[20:35] <vincent_> i mean kwin4
[20:35] <sigma> oh sorry didnt see kde4
[20:36] <sigma> hmmm not too sure, very few have tried kde4, when i did i couldn't enable them, rather wait for the final release
[20:36] <sigma> 11 jan i think
[20:36] <sigma> podr0znik: did installing the font work for you?
[20:36] <emilsedgh> vincent_: there is an option
[20:36] <podr0znik> sigma, trying to find out how to do it ;)
[20:37] <emilsedgh> vincent_: in systemSettings->Desktop or SystemSettings->Windows i think, lemme see
[20:37] <Lynoure> it's worth trying if you want to port something to it... other than that, it's either too late or too early.
[20:37] <Lynoure> (too late to get it change much, too early for it to be fun to use)
[20:37] <sigma> podr0znik: just use the font installer in system settings or kcontrol, make sure you install it as a system-wide font
[20:38] <emilsedgh> vincent_: its in SystemSettings->Appearance->Windows
[20:38] <sigma> emilsedgh: i went there but it was greyed out
[20:38] <emilsedgh> oh sorry
[20:38] <emilsedgh> its in systemsettings->Desktop
[20:39] <emilsedgh> 'Enable Desktop Effects'
[20:39] <sigma> emilsedgh: are they like the compiz fusion effects?
[20:39] <podr0znik> sigma, I'm in there now, I see many fonts and a button "Add fonts..."
[20:39] <podr0znik> that button makes me search on my system for a font
[20:39] <emilsedgh> sigma: they are good, you have expose, explode, zoom and many others, but they are not that chunky-munky yet!
[20:39] <sigma> lol
[20:39] <sigma> podr0znik hang on a sec, im going in there
[20:40] <podr0znik> thx :)
[20:40] <vincent_> emilsedgh: cant find it
[20:40] <Mistical> podr0znik: wouldn't it be fixed by letting him install the msttcorefonts package?
[20:40] <sigma> podr0znik: click on administrator mode, then add fonts, then search for it and install it
[20:41] <emilsedgh> vincent_: run this: kcmshell4 kwincompositing
[20:41] <sigma> you'll have to login as admin of course:)
[20:41] <podr0znik> yes, and the font must be on the hard disk I suppose
[20:41] <sigma> emilsedgh: sounds good, is there anything like the compiz cube? i like compiz but it doesn't gel too well in kwin
[20:42] <emilsedgh> sigma: no, there is another effect for viewing all desktops, but no thats not like Cube
[20:42] <sigma> podr0znik: nope it will copy it to the right folder, so off removable media is fine as well
[20:42] <podr0znik> ok, let me try to find it online
[20:42] <sigma> emilsedgh: ah ok what does that effect do?
[20:43] <sigma> emilsedgh: what graphics card did u use and did u use kubuntu on kde4?
[20:43] <emilsedgh> sigma: shows all desktops altogether! there are many videos in youtube showin kwin compositing (but they are old)
[20:43] <sigma> emilsedgh: ah i see
[20:43] <emilsedgh> sigma: im on an intel graphic card, and im on kubuntu but from svn, not packages
[20:44] <sigma> podr0znik: you should just keep it as a backup, i keep all the ms fonts (only thing i have left from windows)
[20:44] <sigma> emilsedgh: i tried the opensuse live cd, didnt work 2well. not sure if that should surprise me or not:)
[20:45] <podr0znik> so a MS font can be used for linux also, that's nice :)
[20:45] <emilsedgh> sigma: dont except that much for 4.0
[20:45] <podr0znik> I didn't have this issue before, so that's why I don't have the ms-font somewhere stored
[20:45] <sigma> podr0znik: yup any true type font and some other types too
[20:46] <podr0znik> cool
[20:46] <sigma> emilsedgh: why u say that? i like the oxygen theme the best
[20:46] <Lynoure> sigma: the theme is a minor part of it all...
[20:47] <emilsedgh> sigma: oxygen theme has many issues and kde4 is not the oxygen theme! there are many parts, maybe oxygen is 1/10
[20:47] <podr0znik> hm, an .exe file?
[20:47] <podr0znik> weird
[20:47] <sigma> emilsedgh: always good to know:) the new amarok looks cool and so does konquerro, i still prefer it over dolphin as file manager
[20:48] <sigma> podr0znik: what a font as a exe file?
[20:48] <pastryness> how do i check the size of my video card?
[20:48] <pastryness> i dont know how big it is :<
[20:48] <podr0znik> yeah
[20:48] <Lynoure> pastryness: What line did you get from lspci for it?
[20:48] <Xcell> 4x6.5
[20:48] <Xcell> j/k
[20:49] <pastryness> nVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT]
[20:49] <emilsedgh> sigma: the New amarok is yes, good, and Konqueror hm, there are changes that i dont like on it, but i am hoping for post 4.0 releases :)
[20:49] <sigma> podr0znik: maybe its one of those self extracting files. or a virus, but then again you are on linux so no worries
[20:49] <Xcell> Paste bin the results so some one can look at it.
[20:49] <sigma> podr0znik: is there no windows pc around that you can swipe it off?
[20:50] <sigma> emilsedgh: do u use konqueror for web browsing?
[20:50] <emilsedgh> sigma: yes.i cant look at firefox!
[20:51] <sigma> emilsedgh: whats wrong with firefox? i dont like how konq draws webpages
[20:51] <Lynoure> pastryness: that's all? It's a quite old card, then...
[20:51] <emilsedgh> sigma: web browsing mode is good,khtml is improved, but filemanagement mode is a little bit weak...but not changed so much
[20:51] <podr0znik> no, no such computer here :)
[20:51] <podr0znik> but I'll be fine
[20:51] <Xcell> If konq has (no script) like ff i would ditch ff in a heart beat.
[20:51] <Lynoure> pastryness: late 90s, huh?
[20:52] <sigma> podr0znik: well when you come across one just copy it from the \windows\font folder
[20:52] <emilsedgh> sigma: for me, khtml renders better than gecko and i see many sites that gecko cannot render but khtml does.there is only gmail and yahoo and 1-2 like them, but i use kmail.also konqueror is superfast and light.firefox is heavy and slow.eats my memory!
[20:52] <Lynoure> pastryness: 16MB, in that case, probably.
[20:52] <DjDarkman> hy, I selected all kde4 packagees
[20:52] <DjDarkman> and tried to install them
[20:52] <DjDarkman> but I get errors
[20:53] <DjDarkman> Unpacking kde4base-data (from .../kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[20:53] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[20:53] <DjDarkman>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/kuiserver.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
[20:53] <sigma> emilsedgh: everyone says firefox is heavy, i don't experience that at all
[20:53] <DjDarkman> what should I do about it?
[20:53] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: oh that.
[20:53] <Lynoure> !brokenkde4
[20:53] <ubotu> If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[20:53] <pastryness> :<
[20:53] <emilsedgh> sigma: maybe thats because you never tried Konqueror.but i was a firefox user too.Browser is just a habit, try to use konqueror for one week and then you cannot go back to Firefox
[20:54] <Lynoure> pastryness: but, unless you are hoping for 3d games, it will probably be quite ok, anyway
[20:54] <emilsedgh> sigma: specially if you use ssh, ftp and such services and you maintaint websites, KDE and specially Konqueror, really Rocks!
[20:54] <DjDarkman> Lynoure: won`t work
[20:55] <sigma> emilsedgh: i think i used konq in 7.04, hated what it looked like. but il try it out again, maybe the latest fixes have resolved my issues
[20:55] <DjDarkman> how can I cancel the installation of the problematic packagees?
[20:55] <sigma> i have a apache server installed, maybe i should give it a try
[20:55] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: usually it just ends in error, and they don't get installed
[20:55] <emilsedgh> sigma: KDE3 default settings usually are very bad.change applications settings and then they will rock!
[20:55] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: more detail on the "won't work" please
[20:56] <DjDarkman> Package kdebase-workspace is not installed, so not removed
[20:56] <DjDarkman> Package kdebase-runtime is not installed, so not removed
[20:56] <DjDarkman> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[20:56] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: sounds good, still
[20:56] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: try installing again?
[20:57] <DjDarkman> the problem is that I think I accidently put kde4 beta on istallation
[20:57] <DjDarkman> same error
[20:57] <Lynoure> but, if it tells you to do apt-get -f install, that's usually a good idea, then the romeve command again, then install again
[20:57] <Lynoure> s/romeve/remove
[20:57] <sigma> emilsedgh: which settings are u referring to?
[20:57] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: or just try the livecd :)
[20:58] <DjDarkman> the install gives the error so it doesn`t do anything
[20:58] <emilsedgh> sigma: all the settings, kde apps are highly configurable, little things that really change the taste
[20:59] <DjDarkman> the problem is that apt wants to install kde4 beta and rc1 at the same time
[20:59] <DjDarkman> how can I cancel the installation of the beta?
[20:59] <sigma> emilsedgh: taking a look at my internal wiki on it, it does look a whole lot better now!
[20:59] <emilsedgh> hehe
[20:59] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: Where are you installing it from? Prune your sources.list, then do apt-get update again
[21:00] <sigma> emilsedgh: now i remember why i switched to firefox, konq kept on crashing on certain pages - must have been a khtml bug in feisty
[21:00] <emilsedgh> sigma: aah, maybe.its so stable now...
[21:00] <DjDarkman> Lynoure: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[21:00] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: that's rc1, where are you getting "the beta"?
[21:01] <emilsedgh> sigma: if it crashed for you on a page, give me a link to try it
[21:01] <Xcell> hardy is beta
[21:01] <sigma> emilsedgh: ok well il use it and let u know
[21:01] <Xcell> right?
[21:01] <DjDarkman> Lynoure: I think it`s from the ubuntu repositories, since I don`t have any third party added
[21:01] <emilsedgh> thasnk sigma
[21:01] <Lynoure> DjDarkman: uh, oh, if you are on hardy, I think I'll let you be :)
[21:01] <DjDarkman> exept for the one noted on kubuntu.org
[21:01] <DjDarkman> no I`m on gutsy
[21:02] <sigma> Xcell: what is so new in hardy? i read the review on the wiki, didnt sound so exciting
[21:02] <DjDarkman> http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu gutsy main
[21:02] <Xcell> I know/prolly just looks.
[21:02] <stdin> DjDarkman: what packages do you think are the beta ones?
[21:02] <emilsedgh> sigma: it was so nice to talk to you, bye for now
[21:02] <sigma> bye bye
[21:02] <sigma> how do you disable images for some websites but not others in konqueror?
[21:03] <sigma> they have that feature in firefox and i really need it
[21:04] <DjDarkman> kde4-workspace I think
[21:04] <Xcell> Konq needs (no script) to.
[21:04] <DjDarkman> Unpacking kde4base-data (from .../kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb) ...
[21:04] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde4base-data_3.94.0-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[21:04] <DjDarkman>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/services/kuiserver.desktop', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
[21:04] <sigma> Xcell: was that for me?
[21:05] <Xcell> He clicked on the new version..lol.
[21:05] <DjDarkman> what is kdebase-runtime-data ?
[21:05] <Xcell> no..was just saying.
[21:05] <stdin> DjDarkman: that's not trying to install the beta, you already installed the beta and you need to remove it
[21:05] <stdin> !brokenkde4 | DjDarkman, use this
[21:05] <ubotu> DjDarkman, use this: If you're trying to install KDE4 RC1 but getting errors about dependencies or files being overwritten, make sure you remove ALL of the KDE4 beta packages first. Try this in a !terminal: « sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace kdebase-runtime »
[21:06] <DjDarkman> stdin: tried that but it doesn`t work because of dependency problems
[21:07] <DjDarkman> but how can I remove the beta if apt-get remove doesn`t work?
[21:07] <stdin> DjDarkman: just add the packages to the end of the command
[21:07] <stdin> DjDarkman: if it says "package-foo Depends: package-bar..." then add "package-foo" to the end of the same command
[21:08] <DjDarkman> ahhh I get it
[21:08] <chrsim> hallo guys! one problem with kde / kubuntu. if make a alt tab i don't see a windows where i can seen all opened windows. how ist this application called so that i can google why there is no such windows
[21:09] <sigma> is there any way to allow images from certain websites in konqueror but not others?
[21:09] <DjDarkman> ok stdin it works, where can I get a list of all the kde4 rc1 packagees?
[21:10] <stdin> DjDarkman: just install the way it says on the announcement
[21:11] <stdin> DjDarkman: http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsimpson/ubuntu/pool/main/k/ < is a basically all the kde4 packages I put up, except qtcurve and konversation
[21:11] <DjDarkman> ahhh it works now, I`ve overlooked that
[21:12] <sigma> so theres no way to do that?
[21:25] <pastryness> i did echo "compiz --replace" > ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh
[21:25] <pastryness> how do i undo it?
[21:26] <Flare183> edit the file and remove that line
[21:26] <Flare183> i guess
[21:26] <pastryness> where is that file?
[21:26] <pastryness> :<
[21:27] <djdarkman> man kde4 is realy strange
[21:27] <pastryness> srsly... :/
[21:31] <myk_> hey, i have a friend who has a grub error 18. Everything i can find points to BIOS issues,.. This system has run fine for 6 months. Is there anything other than the BIOS it could be?
[21:31] <uacceri> hi
[21:32] <uacceri> i'm unable to get my wireless card working with kdenetworkmanager
[21:33] <uacceri> i've dlink dwl-g630 and it works with ubuntu (network-manager-gnome)
[21:34] <someon1> when is KDE4's release date?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> myk_, did he recently install another OS ?
[21:36] <BluesKaj> someon1, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php
[21:43] <Psycoshot> hey whats the chmod command to make a file on exucutable?
[21:43] <Psycoshot> *an
[21:44] <BluesKaj> chmod +x
[21:44] <Psycoshot> Thanxs
[21:44] <BluesKaj> yw
[21:45] <Thylio> how do i mount a UDF volume (cd-r)?
[21:45] <Psycoshot> hoorah
[21:48] <Thylio> how do i read my fstab??
[21:50] <myk_> BluesKaj: sorry, had a phone call.. No, no changes at all
[21:51] <myk_> just all of a sudden, unable to boot due to error 18
[21:51] <Thylio> how do i read/change my fstab??
[21:51] <myk_> Thylio: if you just want to see it:
[21:51] <BluesKaj> myk_, do you have a windows partition as well ?
[21:51] <myk_> cat /etc/fstab
[21:52] <myk_> BluesKaj: no, just Kubuntu
[21:52] <myk_> I set it up for him about 6 months ago
[21:52] <myk_> He has a / partition , a /home partition, and a swap parttition
[21:53] <SeanTater> Thylio: you need to be root (admin) to change it. Use the following to edit then: kdese kwrite /etc/fstab
[21:53] <Thylio> myk_: can u help me mounting my cd-r? I think kubuntu want to mount is as iso9660, but it's udf!
[21:53] <somekool> hi, anyone using uim-anthy with kde applications ?
[21:53] <Thylio> SeanTater: How can i change it,so it will mount?
[21:53] <myk_> thylio, unfortunately, i cannot help with that
[21:53] <SeanTater> Thylio: I've never heard of a CD being udf, but you don;t need to change your fstab for that
[21:54] <myk_> iso9660 is the standard for cdroms, isnt it?
[21:54] <SeanTater> Thylio:  execute sudo mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[21:54] <SeanTater> Thylio: tell me if that works
[21:54] <SeanTater> myk_: yes, it is, but I'm fairly sure k3b and the like have strange options if you dig neep
[21:54] <SeanTater>  /deep/
[21:54] <BluesKaj> myk_, that's a nice setup, the diff partitons ,but sometimes an upgrade can affect it, that what happened to me ...is there a way to post the /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin ?
[21:55] <myk_> i'll have to get with him. Not at his house, he called me earlier today, just trying to do some research
[21:55] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-es
[21:55] <myk_> how can i get the infor you need? I guess i would need to boot from a live cd
[21:55] <Thylio> SeanTater:  2sec, i'll pastebin the all the info..
[21:56] <SeanTater> ubuntu__:  it's easier if you type /join before it
[21:56] <BluesKaj> myk_, yes
[21:56] <myk_> i'll try to do that later. thanks for your time.
[21:56] <BluesKaj> np
[21:56] <SeanTater> Thylio: uh-oh, this does not sound good :-|
[21:57] <HS^> if i download kubuntu now. is it easy to update kde 4 when it arrives?
[21:57] <HS^> and does it already use Qt 4?
[21:57] <Thylio> SeanTater:  Hehe:p  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2515/
[21:58] <somekool> HS^: there is live CD with kde4 rc1 already
[21:59] <somekool> but yes, upgrading should always be a piece of cake with *buntu
[21:59] <HS^> i saw that. but its unstable
[22:00] <HS^> is kubuntu just vanille/standard kde
[22:00] <HS^> standard fonts..
[22:00] <HS^> everything standard
[22:00] <HS^> or tweaked
[22:00] <SeanTater> Thylio: not surprisingly, I'd like to know what dmesg|tail says about the cd drive (I don't need the whole thing). Unfortunately, the same thing happened to me and I had to buy a new cd drive to fix it
[22:01] <Thylio> SeanTater:  wow. that's bad news. This is a laptop.   -.-
[22:02] <SeanTater> Thylio: On the upside, it probably only happens to UDF cd's, and that's (at most) one in a million
[22:02] <SeanTater> Thylio: but out of curiosity, why does this cd have UDF and how do you know?
[22:02] <Thylio> SeanTater: UFD-fs: No fileset found.
[22:03] <melkor> Is anybody running kde 4?
[22:03] <SeanTater> Thylio: It didn;t say much for me either.. But have you tried the same mount command with iso9660 instead?
[22:03] <Thylio> SeanTater: Well  i burned a movie, so i could watch it in bed. Burned in xp.
[22:04] <Thylio> SeanTater: Yeah, get exactly the same message
[22:04] <SeanTater> Hum.. If it's a DVD, I'd expect udf, but I'd consider it highly unlikely it would burn udf by deafult (though I have not used XP much)
[22:05] <pastryness> how can a allow my xmms to play music from my connected computer? when i drag music onto the playlist from a networked computer, it does not play, but when i copy the file over it plays
[22:06] <SeanTater> pastryness: xmms can't usually play over a network, but you can attach the network to your filesystem. read about mounting an NFS or SMB partition.
[22:06] <michele> cao
[22:06] <michele> ciao
[22:06] <pastryness> then what player does?
[22:06] <Thylio> SeanTater: it's a cd-r. i'll try to change to the second cd.
[22:06] <SeanTater> pastryness: Juk, Amarok, Kaffeine, all of those will /probably/ play over a network
[22:08] <Thylio> lol. same shit on the other cd to.    :(
[22:11] <SeanTater> You cound probably copy them from one computer to the other over a network instead of a cd..
[22:12] <pastryness> my kaffiene wont play mp3 :(
[22:12] <SeanTater> Have you installed restrictedformats?
[22:12] <SeanTater> !restrictedformats
[22:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:13] <BluesKaj> pastryness, install libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:14] <Thylio> yeah.  got a portable hdd... sould be a easy fix....   Thx anyway SeanTater!
[22:14] <SeanTater> Thylio: sorry I couldn't help
[22:14] <SeanTater> Thylio: enjoy
[22:24] <gerret> ?
[22:28] <Thylio> Anyone know how to change resolution in terminal, i have fucked up my other comp in an atempt to get dual screen
[22:29] <stdin> Thylio: watch the language
[22:29] <stdin> !xconfig
[22:29] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[22:29] <Thylio> stdin: srry
[22:29] <Thylio> stdin: thx;D
[22:32] <skyfalcon866> can tracker work in kde
[22:33] <pastryness> thanks
[22:33] <pastryness> stil cant stream multimedia files over lan though
[22:34] <MurielGodoi> Hi I am trying to install and setup php4 in my kubuntu desktop, but I got Package php4 is not available, but is referred to by another package. What that means?
[22:35] <Flare183> !php
[22:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[22:35] <Flare183> use that
[22:35] <stdin> skyfalcon866: it can, but strigi is pre-installed
[22:35] <skyfalcon866> strigi dosent index everything though
[22:36] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: Can't I install lamp in my desktop version? that is for development pourposes
[22:36] <stdin> skyfalcon866: does if you tell it to
[22:36] <Flare183> yeah
[22:36] <skyfalcon866> stdin: .oggs
[22:36] <skyfalcon866> is it like tracker? metadata
[22:38] <eicca> how can I make a sshortcut that when clicked, opens Konsole and uses a command?
[22:40] <TheGateKeeper> eicca, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[22:41] <eicca> already did :)
[22:41] <maverick_> a qauestion out of curiosity , it's not a problem to me....why can;t i launch any GUI capable application when i'm under root user?
[22:41] <maverick_> like kate for Ex. it gives me this output error
[22:41] <maverick_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[22:41] <maverick_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[22:41] <maverick_> kate: cannot connect to X server :0
[22:42] <stdin> maverick_: because only the user that starts the X session can use it. just use "kdesu <application>" to start a GUI as root
[22:42] <maverick_> stdin: thx
[22:44] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: I tried sudo tasksel install lamp-server, but seems locked at wait 0% message.
[22:44] <sparr_w> dolphin sucks.  that is all.
[22:45] <Flare183> it takes a good bit of time
[22:45] <Flare183> Does anybody here use Konversation?
[22:45] <mcrandello> I do I do
[22:46] <Flare183> mcrandello:> do you ever get a message in red?
[22:46] <mcrandello> Yeah, just now ;^_\
[22:46] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: I do
[22:46] <Flare183> I do i that?
[22:46] <mcrandello> whenever someone types your name in the line
[22:46] <mcrandello> Flare183: like this
[22:46] <Flare183> i know but does it do the same for you
[22:47] <Flare183> like this: mcrandello
[22:47] <mcrandello> yep
[22:47] <Flare183> oh ok cool
[22:47] <Flare183> flare183
[22:47] <Flare183> Flare183
[22:47] <mcrandello> It's not a bug or a feature, it's a requirement :^)
[22:47] <Flare183> but i type myself in and it's not red?
[22:47] <Flare183> what gives?
[22:47] <MurielGodoi> Flare183: I tried sudo tasksel install lamp-server, but still seems locked at wait 0% message,  any idea?
[22:47] <mcrandello> also I keep forgetting to type the hash sign when joining channels, and konvo puts it in automatically
[22:48] <Flare183> kk
[22:48] <mcrandello> mcrandello wierd
[22:48] <mcrandello> nope not for me either
[22:48] <Flare183> yeah i know
[22:48] <Flare183> dude just kill it and try again
[22:49] <mcrandello> If you're trying to mark a place in the chat ctrl^R
[22:49] <Flare183> dude watch this
[22:49] <Flare183> !girls
[22:49] <ubotu> Girls don't exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/
[22:49] <Flare183> lol
[22:49] <Flare183> !!
[22:49] <MurielGodoi> mcrandello: nice.. I didn't know that one
[22:49] <Flare183> wow cool
[22:50] <stdin> !botabuse > Flare183
[22:50] <mcrandello> helpful for bathroom and cigarette breaks :)
[22:50] <Flare183> sorry
[22:50] <Flare183> i understand
[22:51] <tashiro> Hello folks
[22:51] <skyfalcon866> how do i tell strigi to index more files
[22:52] <stdin> skyfalcon866: from strigi:/config
[22:52] <HS^> can i burn kubuntu cd edition on a dvd? (i have no cd's left)
[22:52] <stdin> HS^: yes
[22:52] <skyfalcon866> it says add directory not file types
[22:52] <stdin> skyfalcon866: from konqueror ?
[22:52] <skyfalcon866> yes
[22:53] <stdin> skyfalcon866: it should index all file types
[22:53] <mcrandello> anyone know the correct, authoritative way to set up usb to passthrough for virtualization? I've turned on /proc/bus/usb and set all my perms to 664 but there are still issues
[22:53] <tashiro> Id like to be an expert on linux, any sugestions of sites or books i should read?
[22:53] <skyfalcon866> alright
[22:53] <skyfalcon866> thanks
[22:54] <family> what are some good webcam programs?
[22:54] <mcrandello> or alternately, why my portable device would transpose several numbers in its serial number hex string?
[22:54] <family> i tried camorama but it shows my pictures all in blue
[22:54] <mcrandello> (from lsusb versus what the windows vm reports it as. one of them is wrong)
[22:55] <perzyk> witam wszystkich :) mam jeden wielki problem dotyczacy instalacji q3 jesli ktos by mi pomogl bede wdzieczny
[22:55] <ninjagambit> how do you change the clock to show am pm instead of military time
[22:55] <mcrandello> family: that is weird. the pics all have a blue cast or you are getting a solid blue box instead of a picture
[22:55] <mcrandello> ?
[22:55] <family> aww no
[22:56] <stdin> !pl | perzyk
[22:56] <family> i get the picture but its not colored
[22:56] <ubotu> perzyk: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[22:56] <family> the colors are blue
[22:56] <perzyk> przepraszam
[22:56] <family> like my skin is blue my hair is blue my shirt is blue but diffrent shades of blue
[22:57] <pastryness> smbmount //server/my music /home/user/mount-point -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword <--- the share folder name ,"my music" is two words, so the command doesnt work, what do i do?
[22:58] <stdin> pastryness: put a '\' before the space, or just quote it
[22:58] <pastryness> okay let me try
[22:58] <ninjagambit> how do you change the clock
[22:59] <ninjagambit> to display nomaly am pm
[22:59] <ninjagambit> ?
[22:59] <mcrandello> family: there is a color correction option in there that may fix it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/camorama/+bug/78704
[22:59] <ninjagambit> instead of military time like 17:59
[22:59] <family> aww thanks
[22:59] <NightmareCinema> right click on the clock and click date time format
[22:59] <ninjagambit> tried that
[23:00] <ninjagambit> didnt apply to task bar clock
[23:00] <NightmareCinema> Er
[23:00] <NightmareCinema> That's what I did
[23:00] <stdin> ninjagambit: you have to restart kicker for it to apply
[23:00] <stdin> ninjagambit: press Alt-F2 and put in "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[23:00] <[ifr0g]> !find new_tunnel
[23:01] <ubotu> Package/file new_tunnel does not exist in gutsy
[23:01] <mcrandello> family: if that doesn't work there are some other packages mentioned in that bug report, I'm not too familiar with webcam software but I figured it was either a driver causing r/b to swap or at worst a desktop color depth issue
[23:01] <family> aww okay
[23:02] <family> the color correction worked out
[23:02] <ninjagambit> ok  i  tried it again this time geting a promt to restart for changes
[23:03] <family> thank you so much
[23:05] <pastryness> smbmount //server/my music /home/user/mount-point -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword <--- when i do this, will it be mounted everytime i start my linux pc again?
[23:05] <mcrandello> family: glad to help :)
[23:05] <eicca> how can I make a shortcut that opens Konsole and irssi?
[23:05] <eicca> nvm
[23:05] <eicca> :)
[23:06] <family> :)
[23:07] <rcg1984> I keep getting Another process is using the packaging system message every time i open Adept Manager.  I know for a fact there's nothing open to cause that issue.  What should i do now?
[23:08] <stdin> pastryness: no, you have to add "//server/my music /home/user/mount-point smb  username=yourusername,password=yourpassword,auto" to have it mount at boot
[23:08] <stdin> !aptfix | rcg1984
[23:08] <ubotu> rcg1984: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[23:09] <rcg1984> alright i'll give that a shot. and yes adept crashed earlier
[23:09] <pastryness> stdin: so i just type the same thing to mount it, but just add ",auto" at the end?
[23:10] <stdin> pastryness: almost, the format for /etc/fstab is "thing-to-mount mountpoint type options dump pass"
[23:11] <stdin> pastryness: generally you set "dump" and "pass" to 0
[23:11] <stdin> pastryness: so add a line like: //server/my music /home/user/mount-point smb  username=yourusername,password=yourpassword,auto
[23:11] <pastryness> i dont understand what u just said :/
[23:12] <stdin> pastryness: /etc/fstab is a file that stores what to mount and where, to have the system mount something at boot you need to add a line for it in there
[23:12] <SR_Latch> linux community FTW!
[23:14] <pastryness> okay
[23:14] <pastryness> thanks very much stdin
[23:17] <r0y4l> any ideas how i can fix this openoffice error "Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit"?? :(
[23:18] <SR_Latch> does anyone who has a laptop has a schematic of his motherboard?
[23:19] <SR_Latch> the above ir related with one question in the kubuntu mailing list
[23:22] <SR_Latch> any1?
[23:23] <SR_Latch> there was a guy reporting about a problem with his laptop, stating that his built in button to turn off his wifi card was not working uder kubuntu
[23:24] <SR_Latch> my hypothesis is that these buttons are not related with the wifi card but must be built in on the mobo
[23:24] <mcrandello> I haven't seen a schematic ship with hardware since the 1950's era tube radio my pop gave me :(
[23:24] <SR_Latch> but freaking acer has not responded yet at my inquiry
[23:25] <Xcell> Lol ive been a electronics tech 30+ yrs...that button is prolly ic controlled.
[23:25] <rcg1984> sweet thanks ubotu
[23:26] <mcrandello> SR_Latch: that hypothesis does sound fairly solid I suppose, the wifi card in my cheapo toshiba unplugs and doesn't take the button with it, so it's attached in there somewhere by the mobo
[23:26] <mcrandello> if there's an LED for feedback on the wifi have him press it when the machine is booting, My LED goes on/off at that point. It also works under Linux no prob though.
 yes thats what i mean there is no way atheros for example has a built in swith on the chip
[23:27] <SR_Latch> Xcell what do you mean ic?
[23:27] <Xcell> Data latch looped through software.
[23:28] <mcrandello> some of the pins on the slot it plugs into could be directly routed to the button and LED
[23:28] <SR_Latch> but why a data latch and not a simple power switch?
[23:29] <Xcell> It's called a (jk/flip flop.
[23:29] <SR_Latch> to cut power only in wifi chip?
[23:29] <mcrandello> I suppose the question is what happens when the button is pressed, is the wifi card turned off from within the wifi card, is the bus disconnected physically, is it something in the southbridge?
[23:29] <Xcell> Electronic switch.
[23:29] <stdin> SR_Latch, Xcell, mcrandello: take the conversation #kubuntu-offtopic please
[23:29] <rcg1984> how would I extract files from .rar format?
[23:30] <stdin> !rar
[23:30] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[23:30] <SR_Latch>  <rcg1984>  sudo apt-get unrar
[23:31] <rcg1984> SR_Latch: Thanks
[23:31] <mcrandello> stdin: sorry
[23:31] <nonewmsgs> when rhythmbox "moves to trash" where does it go?" i cant find it in my trash
[23:32] <SR_Latch>  <rcg1984>  you're most welcome
[23:33] <galathalion> i need help with flac
[23:36] <HS^> does kubuntu have decent fonts installed by defaults, or you have to tweak it
[23:36] <whabo> Guys i need to use SKypemate... is there anyway i can actually get skype working with skypemate inorder to use my USB phone??? PLEASE HELP guys
 can i burn kubuntu cd edition on a dvd? (i have no cd's left)
 HS^: yes
[23:38] <HS^> thats not true
[23:38] <stdin> yes it is
[23:39] <HS^> it gives error in nero
[23:39] <stdin> that's nero, I don't use nero
[23:39] <HS^> sorry your compilaton cannot be written on this kind of disc
[23:39] <stdin> choose to burn a DVD image, not a CD image
[23:39] <HS^> please inser a disc of the correct type or modify your settings of your compilation
[23:39] <HS^> i did that
[23:39] <whabo>  Guys i need to use SKypemate... is there anyway i can actually get skype working with skypemate inorder to use my USB phone??? PLEASE HELP guys
[23:40] <stdin> HS^: then choose another burning software, it works fine in K3B so it can be done
[23:41] <pastryness> i must type "echo "//192.168.0.1/linux /mnt/sharename smbfs  \" and then the same command continues onto a new line... do i just press unter after the \?
[23:41] <pastryness> enter*
[23:41] <pastryness> i dont know how i pressed u insted of e :<
[23:41] <pastryness> u*
[23:41] <HS^> right.. nero is one of the best disc writing softwares
[23:42] <stdin> pastryness: what are you trying to do?
[23:42] <pastryness> http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/windows.html
[23:43] <pastryness> it tells you how to mount at boot up
[23:43] <pastryness> but there is one of the commands that is two lines :/
[23:43] <tchough> whabo: Most of that hardware has really clunky support in Linux.  Your best bet is probably to search http://forum.skype.com/ and ask around on the Linux forum.  Last time I tried, though, I was unable to get my Skype phone hardware to work.
[23:43] <stdin> wow, that's an odd way to do it..
[23:44] <HS^> it finally burns
[23:44] <HS^> is it hard to setup wireless in linux, (i heared this)
[23:44] <stdin> pastryness: just put the line directly into the file, press Alt-f2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/fstab" so you can edit it properly
[23:47] <tchough> whabo: If you're somewhat experienced with Linux, you might try the usbb2k-api software.  It's at https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/usbb2k-api/ .  It will probably take some fiddling to get working correctly.
[23:52] <matthew> jj
[23:52] <matthew> exit