[13:59] <Rinchen> howdy
[13:59] <kiko> hi handsome
[13:59] <mrevell> hey ho
[13:59] <bigjools> yum
[14:01] <BjornT> ok. welcome to this week's Launchpad developer's meeting
[14:01] <BjornT> == Agenda ==
[14:01] <bigjools> me
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Roll call
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Agenda
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Next meeting
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Actions from last meeting
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Bug tags
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Operations report (mthaddon)
[14:01] <BjornT>  * DBA report (stub)
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[14:01] <BjornT>  * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[14:01] <BjornT>  * Blockers
[14:02] <BjornT> who's here?
[14:02] <intellectronica> me
[14:02] <allenap> me
[14:02] <gmb> me
[14:02] <mrevell> me
[14:02] <salgado> me
[14:02] <Rinchen> me
[14:02] <matsubara> me
[14:02] <kiko> me
[14:02] <jsk> me
[14:02] <bac> me
[14:02] <Hobbsee> not me
[14:02] <cprov> me
[14:02] <kiko> hey salgado!
[14:02] <mpt> me
[14:02] <adeuring> me
[14:02] <schwuk> me
[14:02] <bigjools> me
[14:02] <salgado> yo kiko!
[14:02] <flacoste> me
[14:02] <barry> me
[14:02] <kiko> good to see you ma
[14:02] <kiko> n
[14:02] <mwhudson> me
[14:02] <mthaddon> me
[14:02] <flacoste> leonardr: ping
[14:03] <sinzui> me
[14:03] <mpt> We welcome kiko's ma as a special guest
[14:03] <leonardr> me
[14:03] <kiko> !
[14:04]  * Rinchen reminds adeuring and BjornT that they haven't done weekly status yet. 
[14:04] <BjornT> a correction to the agenda above, there won't be a top user-affection issue this week
[14:04] <BjornT>  * Next meeting
[14:05] <BjornT> who can't attend the meeting next week?
[14:05] <bigjools> me
[14:05] <Rinchen> me 
[14:05] <bigjools> I am on leave
[14:05] <mpt> me
[14:05] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[14:05] <matsubara> me
[14:05] <salgado> me
[14:05] <bac> me
[14:05] <salgado> (I'm on leave as well)
[14:06] <bigjools> shhh tongues will wag
[14:06] <BjornT> ok, a few people, but probably worthwile having a meeting anyway. same time next week then.
[14:06] <kiko> I'm here
[14:06] <BjornT> if you're away and have some agenda item, don't forget to delegate
[14:07] <BjornT>  * Actions from last meeting
[14:07] <BjornT> there were no actions last meeting
[14:07] <jtv> (sorry for being late!)
[14:07] <BjornT>  * Oops report (Matsubara)
[14:07] <matsubara> Today's oops report is about bugs 174364, 174368, 174371
[14:07] <mwhudson> ENOubuntoid
 Launchpad bug 174364 in malone "Automatic bug tracker creation code needs to ensure the automatically created name is not used" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174364
 Launchpad bug 174368 in launchpad "Search query triggering error in tsearch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174368
 Launchpad bug 174371 in shipit "shipit.kubuntu.com is returning a Page not found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/174371
[14:08] <salgado> I think bug 174371 needs someone from IS to look at
[14:08] <matsubara> the first one I already chatted with BjornT about
[14:08] <matsubara> the second one needs stub's input so I'll assign to him
[14:08] <matsubara> salgado, can you please take care of requesting that to the IS team and follow up with them?
[14:09] <salgado> yep
[14:09] <matsubara> thanks salgado 
[14:09] <matsubara> that's all from me, back to you BjornT 
[14:09] <BjornT> thanks
[14:09] <BjornT>  * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[14:09] <statik> sorry I missed the new channel, I'm here
[14:09] <kiko> I think allenap is handling the first one fwiw
[14:09] <Rinchen> Howdy
[14:09] <Rinchen> One item today, for bac
[14:09] <Rinchen> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/173096
[14:09] <Rinchen> Misleading "Content-Encoding: gzip" header on downloads
[14:10] <Rinchen> I believe mthaddon has an RT for that
[14:10] <kiko> Rinchen, so.. we have not one but two solutions for that
[14:10] <kiko> the question is what do we want to do -- and over to the people in london and IS :)
[14:10] <mthaddon> RT 29557
[14:10] <allenap> kiko: I'm not, but I can see what I can do while I'm in the area.
[14:10] <flacoste> actually, bac landed a fix for this, no?
[14:10] <intellectronica> kiko: three, even, if you consider jamesh's long-term suggestion
[14:10] <kiko> allenap, well, aliases would prevent that ostensibly once you registered the alias, so they at least provide a workaround
[14:10] <bac> bac: a change to the librarian landed in 5309 and is on edge
[14:11] <kiko> flacoste, yeah, but we'd need to stop adding content-encoding
[14:11] <allenap> kiko: Yeah, they'll reduce the problem I guess.
[14:11] <bac> in the meantime elmo came up with a solution only involving apache config
[14:11] <jamesh> bac: I don't think we run any librarians on the edge branch
[14:11] <jamesh> do we?
[14:11] <bac> jamesh: interesting
[14:11] <mthaddon> jamesh, I believe we use the prod librarian
[14:12] <jamesh> mthaddon: yep.  That's my understanding
[14:12] <bac> same for staging, i assume?
[14:12] <mthaddon> bac, no, staging has it's own librarian
[14:12] <jamesh> bac: there is a staging librarian
[14:13] <jamesh> we've basically got one librarian per database
[14:13] <jamesh> rather than one per webapp
[14:13] <mthaddon> right
[14:13] <bac> i propose a call after the meeting to pick a solution
[14:13] <Rinchen> +1
[14:14] <BjornT> Rinchen: are you done?
[14:14] <Rinchen> I guess so BjornT 
[14:14] <Rinchen> thanks
[14:14] <BjornT>  * Bug tags
[14:14] <BjornT> no bug tags have been proposed since last week
[14:14] <BjornT>  * Operations report (mthaddon)
[14:14] <mthaddon> I've created a new section to LaunchpadProductionStatus for Rocketfuel-inconsistencies - if anyone commits to branches other than launchpad/devel (i.e. sourcecode/*) please let me know so that I can update this section to avoid to getting cherry picked
[14:14] <mthaddon> Working on Encoding issue with IS and caching setup on staging
[14:14] <mthaddon> Deployment scripts have had major overhaul to allow for service checking and code checking (i.e. is the tree clean) on all production servers as part of rollout
[14:15] <Hobbsee> matsubara, mwhudson: ubotuoid at your service.
[14:15] <mwhudson> Hobbsee: thanks
[14:15] <Hobbsee> mwhudson: you're welcome
[14:15] <matsubara> cool, thanks Hobbsee 
[14:15] <mthaddon> BjornT, that's it from me unless there are any questions
[14:15] <Hobbsee> bug 174371
[14:15] <Hobbsee> ahem.
[14:16] <BjornT> thanks mthaddon 
[14:16] <BjornT>  * DBA report (stub)
[14:16] <BjornT> stub isn't here. anyone as his report?
[14:16] <kiko> mthaddon, sounds like you've been positively busy. good job.
[14:16] <mthaddon> :)
[14:16] <bigjools> it's the London air
[14:17] <Rinchen> and good company
[14:17] <kiko> or the lack of it
[14:17] <mthaddon> I wasn't going to say anything...
[14:17] <BjornT> seems like not. i'll ask stub to send his report to the list.
[14:17] <BjornT>  * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[14:17] <Rinchen> Hi! Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent?
[14:18] <flacoste> i man
[14:18] <flacoste> RT #29298
[14:18] <Rinchen> got that one, thanks
[14:18] <flacoste> it's due for Monday, and didn't heard any news from IS
[14:18] <Rinchen> the news from IS is "it's on our list"
[14:18] <statik> My request for feeds setup on staging is becoming urgent, mthaddon has the number already I think
[14:18] <Rinchen> that's 29313
[14:18] <Rinchen> got that one too
[14:19] <mthaddon> yup, thx
[14:19] <statik> 29524 I think
[14:19] <Rinchen> Didn't have that but I'll look into that
[14:19] <statik> thx
[14:19] <Rinchen> anyone else?
[14:19] <Rinchen> barry on 29293?
[14:19] <LjL> launchpad bug 23
[14:19] <Ubotwo> Launchpad bug 23 in baz "baz redo should use merge3 for conflicts like most other commands do." [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23
[14:20] <Rinchen> bot heaven
[14:20] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: sorry for the botspam, attempting to get a good solution.
[14:20] <LjL> ubotu: part
[14:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about part - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:20] <Rinchen> ok, hearing nothing else. BjornT back to you
[14:20] <BjornT> thanks
[14:20] <BjornT>  * Blockers
[14:20] <Rinchen> Releases Team: Not Blocked.
[14:20] <BjornT> Bugs team: not blocked
[14:20] <flacoste> Foundations Team: will be blocked Monday on RT #29298
[14:20] <LjL> bug 23
[14:20] <mwhudson> Code Team: not blocked
[14:21] <jtv> Translations team: not blocked.
[14:21] <statik> collaborative commerce team: no blocked.
[14:21] <schwuk> hwdb team: not blocked
[14:21] <adeuring> HWDB team: not blocked
[14:21] <bigjools> Soyuz Team: not blocked
[14:22] <BjornT> that's everyone, i think?
[14:22] <flacoste> SC
[14:22] <jamesh> special circumstances: not blocked (I think)
[14:22] <BjornT> ok. short meeting today, thanks everyone!
[14:22] <BjornT> MEETING ENDS
[14:22] <bigjools> thanks Bjorn
[14:23] <mwhudson> hooray
[14:23] <Rinchen> zippy meeting!
[14:23] <mwhudson> thanks BjornT 
[14:23] <mrevell> Thanks BjornT
[14:24] <mrevell> sterling work
[14:25] <mpt> thanks BjornT 
[14:25] <Hobbsee> %whoami
[14:25] <ubotu> Hobbsee
[14:25] <mpt> bug 12345
[14:25] <Hobbsee> mpt: it wont work
[14:25] <Hobbsee> %config channel #launchpad-meeting supybot.plugins.Bugtracker.bugSnarfer True
[14:25] <Hobbsee> ubotu: config channel #launchpad-meeting supybot.plugins.Bugtracker.bugSnarfer True
[14:25]  * Hobbsee curses bots.
[14:25] <intellectronica> mpt: ubuntoid isn't here. we should ask mneptok to make it come here
[14:26] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: don't bother
[14:26] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: i've already pulled some strings, and i can pull higher than he can.
[14:26] <intellectronica> Hobbsee: ???
[14:26] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: still waiting on a staffer to do further stuff
[14:26] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: (to get the bot working in a useful fashion)
[14:27] <intellectronica> Hobbsee: i think mneptok maintains ubuntoid (even it not very successfully ;-/ ) so he's the best person to ask
[14:28] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: oh, i'd assumed that by ubuntoid you meant ubotu, the bot used in #ubuntu* and #launchpad, and does your bugs for you.
[14:29] <Hobbsee> ubuntoid must be a sekrit bot or something.
[14:30] <intellectronica> Hobbsee: heh, maybe it's called something different on different servers.
[14:30] <intellectronica> Hobbsee: anyway, if you say that you've already taken care of that for here then thanks a bunch, and i won't bother with that
[14:30] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: seeing as there's no ubuntuoid on freenode at all...
[14:32] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: attempting to, anyway.  and FYI, mneptok has no access to the bots beyond having editor control
[14:33] <intellectronica> Hobbsee: maybe the ones on freenode have a different maintainer, then. whatever...
[14:34] <Hobbsee> quite possibly
[14:39] <Hobbsee> bug 3
[14:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 3 in rosetta "Custom information for each translation team" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3
[14:39] <Hobbsee> hurrah.
[14:39] <LjL> ok, how?
[14:39] <LjL> Ubotwo: part
[14:39] <Hobbsee> LjL: poked seveas.
[14:39] <LjL> ok
[14:40] <Hobbsee> greetings nalioth 
[14:44] <nalioth> hi
[15:02] <kiko> hi there
[15:02] <kiko> meeting over guys
[15:02] <kiko> go home.
[15:02] <kiko> thanks nalioth 
[15:04] <LjL> register it now before something else happens :P
[15:04] <Hobbsee> heh
[15:05] <Hobbsee>  /msg chanserv access #launchpad-meeting add
[15:07] <nalioth> y'all have fun  :)
[15:10] <Hobbsee> dear chanserv, why do you hate me?
[15:12] <mrevell> Hobbsee: Are you sorting stuff out for us? Thanks :)
[15:13] <Hobbsee> mrevell: attempting to, but chanserv appears to be fighting me.
[15:13] <Hobbsee> mrevell: you're welcome
[15:17] <kiko> heh
[15:18] <Hobbsee> kiko: what happens if you do /mode #launchpad-meeting -t
[15:18] <Hobbsee> ?
[15:19] <Rinchen> finally
[15:20] <Hobbsee> hurrah!
[15:20] <Rinchen> sorry I was otherwise engaged
[15:20] <Hobbsee> no, chanserv is just slow
[15:20] <Rinchen> I just set guard on
[15:20] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: i think kiko will have to set the alternate contact
[15:21] <Hobbsee> yup, only he has the password.
[15:21] <Rinchen> gah ok
[15:22] <Rinchen> yeah, chanserv doesn't like me
[15:22] <Hobbsee> dear freenode, please stop being FITH.
[15:22] <Hobbsee> [02:22] [Notice] -ChanServ- [Hobbsee] matches an access level higher than your own
[15:27] <Rinchen> Hobbsee, do you know what mode c is?
[15:27] <Rinchen> channel mode c
[15:28] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: good question.  i'll find out
[15:28] <Rinchen> thanks and why is your access level 49? ;-)
[15:28] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: lower case and upper case?
[15:29] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: iz freenode bug.
[15:29] <Rinchen> upper
[15:29]  * Hobbsee sets lower case c, then
[15:29] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: ctcp block
[15:29] <Hobbsee> This umode prevents you from receiving personal CTCP messages or sending any CTCP replies. This will stop private CTCP flooding. You'll still receive CTCP messages sent to a channel you are on, although the network will block your response to them.
[15:30] <Hobbsee> it's A Good Thing (tm)
[15:30] <Rinchen> ah
[15:30] <Rinchen> #launchpad is -s+n only
[15:30] <Rinchen> I guess we can leave it here
[15:30] <Rinchen> no reason to ctcp here
[15:30] <Rinchen> except for jtv who wants to know if his connection is still alive
[15:31] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: ideally, you want some of these modes in #launchpad too
[15:31] <Rinchen> we do, do an info
[15:31] <Rinchen> just not c
[15:31] <Rinchen> kiko does NOT want the topiclock on for some reason
[15:31] <Rinchen> made me take it off #launchpad
[15:31] <Hobbsee> well, i can't change that.  chanserv keeps changing it back
[15:32] <Hobbsee> no idea if he has to set it off, or what.
[15:32] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: you probably want +c in launchpad though
[15:33] <Rinchen> kiko please issue /msg chanserv set #launchpad-meeting alt Rinchen
[15:33] <kiko> done
[15:33] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: actually, you might be able to delete me from the access list
[15:33] <Rinchen> great, thanks
[15:34] <Rinchen> I couldn't before due to acl
[15:34] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: seeing as i don't have affiliation with the project, adn all
[15:34] <Rinchen> I'll try again.
[15:34] <Rinchen> -ChanServ- [Hobbsee] matches an access level higher than your own
[15:34] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: yeah, same here.
[15:34] <Hobbsee> oh well
[15:34] <Rinchen> kiko,   /msg chanserv access #launchpad-meeting del Hobbsee
[15:34] <Rinchen> :-)
[15:35] <Rinchen> when you are ready
[15:35] <Rinchen> this is scary....
[15:35] <Hobbsee> yeah, i don't have more to add
[15:35] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: why?
[15:35] <Rinchen> kiko is actually doing channel mod stuff :-)
[15:35] <Hobbsee> hehe
[15:35] <Hobbsee> he's being good, and doing what he's told :)
[15:36] <Rinchen> heh
[15:36] <Rinchen> Hobbsee, thanks for your help
[15:36] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: you're welcome, sorry it was such a pain.
[15:37] <Hobbsee> Rinchen: next time, register the channel *first* before sticking bots into it :)
[15:37] <Rinchen> I was going to do the setup as soon as kiko had the idea (since I have experience at channel ownership) but the bot was already here