[00:10] <slimz> anyone elses host file break upgrading from gutsy?
[00:11] <crimsun> not mine.
[00:12] <crimsun> also, I'm in the last testing phase for pulseaudio-0.9.8-1ubuntu1.  The source changes are at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu/revision/crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd?start_revid=crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd
[00:12] <crimsun> Consider that a last call for comments ;)
[00:14] <RAOF> What comments are you after?
[00:15] <crimsun> any
[00:15] <crimsun> e.g., source, usage, wishlist, ...
[00:16] <RAOF> Why are you using XSBC-Vcs-Bzr?  Isn't Vcs-Bzr standard yet?
[00:16] <crimsun> no idea.  Is it?
[00:16] <RAOF> I'm pretty sure it is.
[00:16] <crimsun> looks like it is
[00:17] <crimsun> hmm.
[00:18] <crimsun> I guess I need to use the bazaar.lp syntax, too?
[00:19] <crimsun> i.e., Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu
[00:19] <RAOF> Whatever works, I suppose.
[00:19] <RAOF> (You could even use lp://~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio, I think.  Or something similar)
[00:20] <crimsun> the two templates I'm using are ubiquity and mplayer
[00:20] <RAOF> they sound like good templates.  Might as well follow them.
[00:30] <crimsun> RAOF: thanks!
[00:31] <RAOF> NP
[00:31] <RAOF> Thanks for the pulseaudio :)
[01:34] <DM|> anyone else install hardy into a VM?
[01:35] <sn0> yep
[01:35] <DM|> You also have a problem with resizing the "install" window?
[01:36] <DM|> I moved the panels so its not a big deal , but was strange there for a sec
[01:36] <sn0> honestly, i cannot remember
[01:36] <DM|> kk
[01:36] <sn0> is it reproduceable?
[01:37] <DM|> i believe so
[01:37] <DM|> im installing into a VM atm or i would go test it
[01:38] <DM|> beauty of a VM
[01:38] <sn0> im playing golf online right now,else i would boot + try :)
[01:46] <bazhang> it is a huge panel--installed it when it came out
[01:47] <LDS_Trooper> Greetings
[01:48] <LDS_Trooper> not to stir any trouble.. but how does http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006121402026NWKNDV affect Ubuntu?
[01:49] <LDS_Trooper> anyone?
[01:50] <RAOF> That's pretty old.
[01:50] <RAOF> Also, the worst-case-scenario is that we patch the check out of our kernel.
[01:50] <LDS_Trooper> I'm pretty new
[01:50] <LDS_Trooper> =)
[01:51] <LDS_Trooper> I asked in #Ubuntu and they sent me here
[01:51] <RAOF> I'm not sure why they'd do that.  Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps :)
[01:52] <LDS_Trooper> So then its not for the development channel?
[01:52] <RAOF> Well, maybe, kinda.
[01:52] <LDS_Trooper> man.. it can be hard to get info in Linux
[01:52] <RAOF> So, in short: (1) I don't think that it's happening, and (2) I don't think we would ship a kernel that broke the nvidia & fglrx (among others) drivers.
[01:53] <RAOF> I suppose it kinda is hardy-development related.
[01:54] <LDS_Trooper> ok thanks...
[02:15] <pwnguin> which package are the iwl3945 drivers in for 2.6.24?
[02:32] <bazhang> I think they are part of the kernel now
[10:09] <BUGabundo> good morning guys and gals
[10:18] <BUGabundo> anyone with probs with fonts in nautilus???
[10:18] <BUGabundo> I see a few squares instead of the proper text
[13:15] <Lunks> I'm experiencing some lockups on Hardy, but no output is given (as far as I noticed). Where could I look for info about it?
[13:16] <Lunks> Or is it known that Hardy is locking up?
[13:17] <Hobbsee> which driver?
[13:18] <Lunks> graphics card?
[13:18] <Lunks> it's freezing up on normal usage, sometimes just after compiz *seems* to be activated.
[13:18] <Lunks> If it's graphics card, nvidia.
[13:18] <Lunks> new (100.x) drivers
[13:27] <Hobbsee> odd
[13:27]  * Hobbsee doesn't have nvidia
[13:29] <Lunks> Maybe it's the driver, I've seen people complaining about freezing with NVidia drivers, but I have used 96.31 (gutsy) and 169.04 (nvidia beta) and it never happened to me. :P
[13:30] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: recent bios upgrade ?
[13:30] <Lunks> nop
[13:30] <Lunks> just installed hardy from daily livecd
[13:31] <h3sp4wn> I started having some wierdness with 100.x after my latest bios upgrade but as they fixed HPET and amd-v I wanted to keep them
[13:31] <h3sp4wn> (So I use 169.04)
[13:31] <Lunks> Did the lockups ended?
[13:31] <h3sp4wn> yeah - But I never had them before with 100.x
[13:38] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: guess I'll try a new kernel and nvidia 169 =P
[14:00] <lunks> yeah, looks like it's freezing a lot. :P
[14:01] <lunks> gave up some X comfort to see if it stops locking up.
[15:10] <Lunks> Looks like my lock ups are not NVidia related.
[15:10] <Lunks> To figure it out, I launched Ubuntu on recovery mode and did modprobe -r nvidia
[15:10] <Lunks> didn't use x, and it still hanged
[15:11] <Lunks> If I can provide more info, I gladly will, but someone has to point me in some directions. :>
[15:15] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: Using which kernel ? the gutsy one ?
[15:16] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: the one that came with hardy, I believe it's 2.6.22-14
[15:16] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: Try a 2.6.24-rc4 kernel or the ubuntu-hardy.git repository
[15:17] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: I was trying to compile it, but I couldn't as it froze on me
[15:17] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: Do you know somewhere I can get a .deb?
[15:19] <h3sp4wn> I can give you the headers + image for 2.6.24-rc3-cfs-v24
[15:19] <h3sp4wn> for i386 if you want (but you would have to build nvidia.ko yourself)
[15:21] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: ok, I'm using x86 too.
[15:21] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: if it stops hanging, I'll compile it myself
[15:21] <Lunks> (been trying to use 2.6.24-rc4-zen0)
[15:22] <h3sp4wn> Its 184MB :/
[15:22] <h3sp4wn> I don't have anywhere I can store it with that much free space
[15:23] <Lunks> damn
[15:24] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: try www.divshare.com
[15:24] <Lunks> thank you for everything. :)
[15:27] <BUGabundo> hi
[15:28] <BUGabundo> quick question: does any one here use Seahorse?
[15:28] <Xemanth> horse?
[15:28] <BUGabundo> in hardy, it doesn't seem to support sshkeys. only pgp
[15:28] <BUGabundo> version: seahorse 2.21.3
[15:28] <BUGabundo> Xemanth: yes, seahorse, a keyring manager
[15:29] <Xemanth> i c
[15:29] <Xemanth> thought you were talking about Seamonkey or something :)
[15:29] <BUGabundo> do you use it ?
[15:30] <BUGabundo> I want o check, before posting to LP
[15:30] <BUGabundo> is there any other ssh key manager with gui?
[15:31] <Xemanth> only keyring manager which i use is kgpg
[15:32] <BUGabundo> let me check
[15:36] <BUGabundo> Xemanth: also on kgpg there's no ssh key!!!
[15:36] <BUGabundo> I can see it on my disk
[15:36] <BUGabundo> and use it to connect via ssh
[15:36] <BUGabundo> but it doesn't appear on any of this two key managers
[15:53] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: will you upload .deb kernel, then? :>
[15:53] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: If you can think of a method I can do it without signing up anywhere
[15:54] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: www.divshare.com
[15:54] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: you don't need to sign up.
[15:54] <Lunks> Only drawback is that it'll last for 30 days only, but that's not an issue as I expect to download it right away. :P
[15:55] <h3sp4wn> I would guess it would be faster to just make one than for me to upload 200MB
[15:55] <h3sp4wn> I cannot understand why it is so big either
[15:55] <Lunks> Well, if you don't want to register, you don't want to. But I find this service one of the best.
[15:56] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: looks like there are some stuff you can do to narrow its size down
[15:56] <h3sp4wn> The default ubuntu one is nowhere near that big
[15:57] <Lunks> sorry, i didn't know it doesn't have a no-register uploading method anymore
[15:57] <Lunks> hang on, I'll try to find out about ti
[15:59] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: I will build a cut down version
[15:59] <Lunks> what's it? =P
[15:59] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: What do you use in terms of stuff that is not in the main kernel source
[16:00] <Lunks> I've got a ps/2 keyboard, an usb mouse, athlon xp proccessor, < 4gb ram
[16:00] <Lunks> I use bluetooth but you can leave it off
[16:00] <Lunks> as far as I get it not freezing, I will build a new kernel
[16:01] <Lunks> So you don't need to make an everlasting bulletproof kernel for me. :P
[16:02] <h3sp4wn> ok
[16:16] <Lunks> thank you, h3sp4wn
[16:19] <h3sp4wn> I know why it was so big also (full debug kernel)
[16:20] <Lunks> hmm I didn't notice this checkbox on xconfig
[16:20] <Lunks> I'll check for it next time.
[16:52] <BUGabundo> how do I use xrand to setup dual monitor? any links?
[16:53] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: is it compiling still?
[16:55] <BUGabundo> anyone?!?! I need to configura a dual monitor system...
[16:56] <BUGabundo> and displayconfig-gtk is not yet ready for x 7.3
[17:06] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: i'll have to go afk and if it's still compiling say 'hau' =P
[17:25] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: could you say 'hello'? =P
[17:28] <h3sp4wn> hi
[17:28] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: i'll go afk, i hope you don't mind. is it still compiling?
[17:29] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: I was just going to upload (and check it boots I stripped tons of stuff)
[17:29] <Lunks> ok, I'll wait then
[17:34] <h3sp4wn> Lunks: It boots (there is no sound drivers - because I build them externally)
[17:34] <Lunks> np
[17:34] <h3sp4wn> http://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/
[17:34] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: thanks a lot, man
[17:35] <Lunks> hopefully it won't lock up anymore
[17:35] <Amaranth> oh god the nvidia + smp lockup?
[17:35] <Lunks> Amaranth: dunno =P
[17:36] <Amaranth> Do you have nvidia? Do you have a dual core or dual cpu system? Do you get random lockups?
[17:36] <Lunks> I've tried running on recovery mode and then modprobe -r nvidia, but it still locks up
[17:36] <Lunks> I don't have a dual core.
[17:36] <Lunks> Athlon XP 1900+
[17:36] <Amaranth> Then you, luckily, have a different problem
[17:36] <Amaranth> You don't want my problem
[17:36] <Lunks> hahah
[17:36] <Amaranth> 3d apps make it happen more often, I'm a compiz dev :/
[17:36] <Lunks> I can't see why Ubuntu locking up for a different reason is having luck, but anyway
[17:37] <Lunks> oh thats bad
[17:37] <Amaranth> and we get at least 1 bug report a week about it
[17:37] <h3sp4wn> I had that problem (and I only had it after updating my bios to one with hpet and amd-v) - but I don't anymore
[17:37] <Amaranth> from people blaming compiz
[17:37] <h3sp4wn> with the beta driver
[17:37] <Lunks> Like I'm trying, building a newer kernel wouldn't solve it, Amaranth?
[17:37] <Amaranth> h3sp4wn: afaik this only happens with nv4x cards
[17:37] <Amaranth> the Geforce 7000 series
[17:38] <Lunks> I'm on a FX 5200. :P
[17:38] <h3sp4wn> Amaranth: This one is a 7300GT
[17:38] <Amaranth> Lunks: i dunno, my particular problem is with the nvidia driver
[17:38] <Lunks> Bad thing about lock ups is that there's not much debug info when it locks up. :P
[17:38] <Amaranth> h3sp4wn: i've got 2.6.22 and the 169 driver
[17:38] <Lunks> rebooting into linux again, wish me luck! :>
[17:38] <Amaranth> sometimes it only locks up for 5-10 seconds
[17:38] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: thanks for the help man, really appreciated
[17:39] <Lunks> hopefully I'll hang on more than 10 minutes here. :D
[17:48] <Lunks> successfully booted and ran X using nv, but looks like I didn't have to reinstall my Ubuntu, as kernel framebuffer on X is what caused issues way back. :P
[17:48] <Lunks> now let's hope I can build the kernel without locking up. :D
[17:49] <Lunks> h3sp4wn: thank you very much!
[18:14] <Lunks> Amaranth: you should try a newer kernel. :)
[18:15] <Amaranth> Lunks: it's the nvidia driver
[18:15] <Amaranth> they admit it, they thought they fixed it
[18:17] <Lunks> too bad, then =P
[18:46] <Lunks-> Still locking up. =\
[18:46] <Lunks-> So, I can say it's not kernel nor nvidia module wise.
[19:48] <bernier> Hi, are hardy and fglrx supposed to work correctly with 3d accell and all?
[19:59] <h3sp4wn> bernier: All bets are off for the time being
[20:50] <jetsaredim> anyone reporting a problem with phpmyadmin
[20:50] <jetsaredim> on hardy
[21:33] <skyfalcon866> it is possible to dual boot kubuntu 7,10 and kubuntu hardy
[21:33] <h3sp4wn> skyfalcon866: yes
[21:33] <skyfalcon866> would i get the same results in virtualbox running hardy
[21:34] <h3sp4wn> Never used virtualbox
[21:34] <skyfalcon866> ok
[21:34] <h3sp4wn> I think someone complained within the last few days it was not working in virtualbox
[21:34] <h3sp4wn> but however as it was only one person its hard to know whether there really is a problem
[21:35] <skyfalcon866> ok one more thing
[21:35] <skyfalcon866> could installing kbuntu hardy break my stable kubuntu install
[21:36] <h3sp4wn> It could cause a black hole or the end of the universe or death to you
[21:36] <h3sp4wn> But if you read some instructions on how to do it - then it should be ok
[21:37] <skyfalcon866> ok =)
[21:38] <h3sp4wn> skyfalcon866: Depends how important the stuff is on the other install - you could use one of those removeable hdd trays and keep each os on a seperate disk and only have one in at once
[21:39] <skyfalcon866> like external hdd?
[21:40] <h3sp4wn> Not exactly I dunno how better to describe it right now though
[21:41] <skyfalcon866> ok
[22:08] <h3sp4wn> How far has the telepathy project progressed in recent times ?
[22:47] <void^> "/dev/sda5 has been mounted 75 times without being checked, check forced." .. why am i getting the feeling gnome-mount doesn't call fsck before mounting? :-)
[22:59] <hydrogen> I would think the first five letters of the command would explain any malfunctions
[23:10] <cps1966> hey guys got hardy installed on my new eee pc
[23:11] <cps1966> much better than xandros
[23:19] <h3sp4wn> cps1966: Have you the madwifi patch ?
[23:20] <h3sp4wn> (atheros posted it to the madwifi trac)