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slimzanyone elses host file break upgrading from gutsy?00:10
crimsunnot mine.00:11
crimsunalso, I'm in the last testing phase for pulseaudio-0.9.8-1ubuntu1.  The source changes are at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu/revision/crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd?start_revid=crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd00:12
crimsunConsider that a last call for comments ;)00:12
RAOFWhat comments are you after?00:14
crimsunany00:15
crimsune.g., source, usage, wishlist, ...00:15
RAOFWhy are you using XSBC-Vcs-Bzr?  Isn't Vcs-Bzr standard yet?00:16
crimsunno idea.  Is it?00:16
RAOFI'm pretty sure it is.00:16
crimsunlooks like it is00:16
crimsunhmm.00:17
crimsunI guess I need to use the bazaar.lp syntax, too?00:18
crimsuni.e., Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu00:19
RAOFWhatever works, I suppose.00:19
RAOF(You could even use lp://~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio, I think.  Or something similar)00:19
crimsunthe two templates I'm using are ubiquity and mplayer00:20
RAOFthey sound like good templates.  Might as well follow them.00:20
crimsunRAOF: thanks!00:30
RAOFNP00:31
RAOFThanks for the pulseaudio :)00:31
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DM|anyone else install hardy into a VM?01:34
sn0yep01:35
DM|You also have a problem with resizing the "install" window?01:35
DM|I moved the panels so its not a big deal , but was strange there for a sec01:36
sn0honestly, i cannot remember01:36
DM|kk01:36
sn0is it reproduceable?01:36
DM|i believe so01:37
DM|im installing into a VM atm or i would go test it01:37
DM|beauty of a VM01:38
sn0im playing golf online right now,else i would boot + try :)01:38
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bazhangit is a huge panel--installed it when it came out01:46
LDS_TrooperGreetings01:47
LDS_Troopernot to stir any trouble.. but how does http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006121402026NWKNDV affect Ubuntu?01:48
LDS_Trooperanyone?01:49
RAOFThat's pretty old.01:50
RAOFAlso, the worst-case-scenario is that we patch the check out of our kernel.01:50
LDS_TrooperI'm pretty new01:50
LDS_Trooper=)01:50
LDS_TrooperI asked in #Ubuntu and they sent me here01:51
RAOFI'm not sure why they'd do that.  Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps :)01:51
LDS_TrooperSo then its not for the development channel?01:52
RAOFWell, maybe, kinda.01:52
LDS_Trooperman.. it can be hard to get info in Linux01:52
RAOFSo, in short: (1) I don't think that it's happening, and (2) I don't think we would ship a kernel that broke the nvidia & fglrx (among others) drivers.01:52
RAOFI suppose it kinda is hardy-development related.01:53
LDS_Trooperok thanks...01:54
pwnguinwhich package are the iwl3945 drivers in for 2.6.24?02:15
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bazhangI think they are part of the kernel now02:32
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BUGabundogood morning guys and gals10:09
BUGabundoanyone with probs with fonts in nautilus???10:18
BUGabundoI see a few squares instead of the proper text10:18
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LunksI'm experiencing some lockups on Hardy, but no output is given (as far as I noticed). Where could I look for info about it?13:15
LunksOr is it known that Hardy is locking up?13:16
Hobbseewhich driver?13:17
Lunksgraphics card?13:18
Lunksit's freezing up on normal usage, sometimes just after compiz *seems* to be activated.13:18
LunksIf it's graphics card, nvidia.13:18
Lunksnew (100.x) drivers13:18
Hobbseeodd13:27
* Hobbsee doesn't have nvidia13:27
LunksMaybe it's the driver, I've seen people complaining about freezing with NVidia drivers, but I have used 96.31 (gutsy) and 169.04 (nvidia beta) and it never happened to me. :P13:29
h3sp4wnLunks: recent bios upgrade ?13:30
Lunksnop13:30
Lunksjust installed hardy from daily livecd13:30
h3sp4wnI started having some wierdness with 100.x after my latest bios upgrade but as they fixed HPET and amd-v I wanted to keep them13:31
h3sp4wn(So I use 169.04)13:31
LunksDid the lockups ended?13:31
h3sp4wnyeah - But I never had them before with 100.x13:31
Lunksh3sp4wn: guess I'll try a new kernel and nvidia 169 =P13:38
lunksyeah, looks like it's freezing a lot. :P14:00
lunksgave up some X comfort to see if it stops locking up.14:01
LunksLooks like my lock ups are not NVidia related.15:10
LunksTo figure it out, I launched Ubuntu on recovery mode and did modprobe -r nvidia15:10
Lunksdidn't use x, and it still hanged15:10
LunksIf I can provide more info, I gladly will, but someone has to point me in some directions. :>15:11
h3sp4wnLunks: Using which kernel ? the gutsy one ?15:15
Lunksh3sp4wn: the one that came with hardy, I believe it's 2.6.22-1415:16
h3sp4wnLunks: Try a 2.6.24-rc4 kernel or the ubuntu-hardy.git repository15:16
Lunksh3sp4wn: I was trying to compile it, but I couldn't as it froze on me15:17
Lunksh3sp4wn: Do you know somewhere I can get a .deb?15:17
h3sp4wnI can give you the headers + image for 2.6.24-rc3-cfs-v2415:19
h3sp4wnfor i386 if you want (but you would have to build nvidia.ko yourself)15:19
Lunksh3sp4wn: ok, I'm using x86 too.15:21
Lunksh3sp4wn: if it stops hanging, I'll compile it myself15:21
Lunks(been trying to use 2.6.24-rc4-zen0)15:21
h3sp4wnIts 184MB :/15:22
h3sp4wnI don't have anywhere I can store it with that much free space15:22
Lunksdamn15:23
Lunksh3sp4wn: try www.divshare.com15:24
Lunksthank you for everything. :)15:24
BUGabundohi15:27
BUGabundoquick question: does any one here use Seahorse?15:28
Xemanthhorse?15:28
BUGabundoin hardy, it doesn't seem to support sshkeys. only pgp15:28
BUGabundoversion: seahorse 2.21.315:28
BUGabundoXemanth: yes, seahorse, a keyring manager15:28
Xemanthi c15:29
Xemanththought you were talking about Seamonkey or something :)15:29
BUGabundodo you use it ?15:29
BUGabundoI want o check, before posting to LP15:30
BUGabundois there any other ssh key manager with gui?15:30
Xemanthonly keyring manager which i use is kgpg15:31
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BUGabundolet me check15:32
BUGabundoXemanth: also on kgpg there's no ssh key!!!15:36
BUGabundoI can see it on my disk15:36
BUGabundoand use it to connect via ssh15:36
BUGabundobut it doesn't appear on any of this two key managers15:36
Lunksh3sp4wn: will you upload .deb kernel, then? :>15:53
h3sp4wnLunks: If you can think of a method I can do it without signing up anywhere15:53
Lunksh3sp4wn: www.divshare.com15:54
Lunksh3sp4wn: you don't need to sign up.15:54
LunksOnly drawback is that it'll last for 30 days only, but that's not an issue as I expect to download it right away. :P15:54
h3sp4wnI would guess it would be faster to just make one than for me to upload 200MB15:55
h3sp4wnI cannot understand why it is so big either15:55
LunksWell, if you don't want to register, you don't want to. But I find this service one of the best.15:55
Lunksh3sp4wn: looks like there are some stuff you can do to narrow its size down15:56
h3sp4wnThe default ubuntu one is nowhere near that big15:56
Lunkssorry, i didn't know it doesn't have a no-register uploading method anymore15:57
Lunkshang on, I'll try to find out about ti15:57
h3sp4wnLunks: I will build a cut down version15:59
Lunkswhat's it? =P15:59
h3sp4wnLunks: What do you use in terms of stuff that is not in the main kernel source15:59
LunksI've got a ps/2 keyboard, an usb mouse, athlon xp proccessor, < 4gb ram16:00
LunksI use bluetooth but you can leave it off16:00
Lunksas far as I get it not freezing, I will build a new kernel16:00
LunksSo you don't need to make an everlasting bulletproof kernel for me. :P16:01
h3sp4wnok16:02
Lunksthank you, h3sp4wn16:16
h3sp4wnI know why it was so big also (full debug kernel)16:19
Lunkshmm I didn't notice this checkbox on xconfig16:20
LunksI'll check for it next time.16:20
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BUGabundohow do I use xrand to setup dual monitor? any links?16:52
Lunksh3sp4wn: is it compiling still?16:53
BUGabundoanyone?!?! I need to configura a dual monitor system...16:55
BUGabundoand displayconfig-gtk is not yet ready for x 7.316:56
Lunksh3sp4wn: i'll have to go afk and if it's still compiling say 'hau' =P17:06
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Lunksh3sp4wn: could you say 'hello'? =P17:25
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h3sp4wnhi17:28
Lunksh3sp4wn: i'll go afk, i hope you don't mind. is it still compiling?17:28
h3sp4wnLunks: I was just going to upload (and check it boots I stripped tons of stuff)17:29
Lunksok, I'll wait then17:29
h3sp4wnLunks: It boots (there is no sound drivers - because I build them externally)17:34
Lunksnp17:34
h3sp4wnhttp://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/17:34
Lunksh3sp4wn: thanks a lot, man17:34
Lunkshopefully it won't lock up anymore17:35
Amaranthoh god the nvidia + smp lockup?17:35
LunksAmaranth: dunno =P17:35
AmaranthDo you have nvidia? Do you have a dual core or dual cpu system? Do you get random lockups?17:36
LunksI've tried running on recovery mode and then modprobe -r nvidia, but it still locks up17:36
LunksI don't have a dual core.17:36
LunksAthlon XP 1900+17:36
AmaranthThen you, luckily, have a different problem17:36
AmaranthYou don't want my problem17:36
Lunkshahah17:36
Amaranth3d apps make it happen more often, I'm a compiz dev :/17:36
LunksI can't see why Ubuntu locking up for a different reason is having luck, but anyway17:36
Lunksoh thats bad17:37
Amaranthand we get at least 1 bug report a week about it17:37
h3sp4wnI had that problem (and I only had it after updating my bios to one with hpet and amd-v) - but I don't anymore17:37
Amaranthfrom people blaming compiz17:37
h3sp4wnwith the beta driver17:37
LunksLike I'm trying, building a newer kernel wouldn't solve it, Amaranth?17:37
Amaranthh3sp4wn: afaik this only happens with nv4x cards17:37
Amaranththe Geforce 7000 series17:37
LunksI'm on a FX 5200. :P17:38
h3sp4wnAmaranth: This one is a 7300GT17:38
AmaranthLunks: i dunno, my particular problem is with the nvidia driver17:38
LunksBad thing about lock ups is that there's not much debug info when it locks up. :P17:38
Amaranthh3sp4wn: i've got 2.6.22 and the 169 driver17:38
Lunksrebooting into linux again, wish me luck! :>17:38
Amaranthsometimes it only locks up for 5-10 seconds17:38
Lunksh3sp4wn: thanks for the help man, really appreciated17:38
Lunkshopefully I'll hang on more than 10 minutes here. :D17:39
Lunkssuccessfully booted and ran X using nv, but looks like I didn't have to reinstall my Ubuntu, as kernel framebuffer on X is what caused issues way back. :P17:48
Lunksnow let's hope I can build the kernel without locking up. :D17:48
Lunksh3sp4wn: thank you very much!17:49
LunksAmaranth: you should try a newer kernel. :)18:14
AmaranthLunks: it's the nvidia driver18:15
Amaranththey admit it, they thought they fixed it18:15
Lunkstoo bad, then =P18:17
Lunks-Still locking up. =\18:46
Lunks-So, I can say it's not kernel nor nvidia module wise.18:46
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bernierHi, are hardy and fglrx supposed to work correctly with 3d accell and all?19:48
h3sp4wnbernier: All bets are off for the time being19:59
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jetsaredimanyone reporting a problem with phpmyadmin20:50
jetsaredimon hardy20:50
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skyfalcon866it is possible to dual boot kubuntu 7,10 and kubuntu hardy21:33
h3sp4wnskyfalcon866: yes21:33
skyfalcon866would i get the same results in virtualbox running hardy21:33
h3sp4wnNever used virtualbox21:34
skyfalcon866ok21:34
h3sp4wnI think someone complained within the last few days it was not working in virtualbox21:34
h3sp4wnbut however as it was only one person its hard to know whether there really is a problem21:34
skyfalcon866ok one more thing21:35
skyfalcon866could installing kbuntu hardy break my stable kubuntu install21:35
h3sp4wnIt could cause a black hole or the end of the universe or death to you21:36
h3sp4wnBut if you read some instructions on how to do it - then it should be ok21:36
skyfalcon866ok =)21:37
h3sp4wnskyfalcon866: Depends how important the stuff is on the other install - you could use one of those removeable hdd trays and keep each os on a seperate disk and only have one in at once21:38
skyfalcon866like external hdd?21:39
h3sp4wnNot exactly I dunno how better to describe it right now though21:40
skyfalcon866ok21:41
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h3sp4wnHow far has the telepathy project progressed in recent times ?22:08
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void^"/dev/sda5 has been mounted 75 times without being checked, check forced." .. why am i getting the feeling gnome-mount doesn't call fsck before mounting? :-)22:47
hydrogenI would think the first five letters of the command would explain any malfunctions22:59
cps1966hey guys got hardy installed on my new eee pc23:10
cps1966much better than xandros23:11
h3sp4wncps1966: Have you the madwifi patch ?23:19
h3sp4wn(atheros posted it to the madwifi trac)23:20
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